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We are on the air, and so I call this meeting of the West St. Paul environmental committee to order.

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All right, and we start off with a roll call.

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Eric, can I have a roll call, please?

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We have a full House of all members.

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We do.

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All members of our presence.

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The feeling from the planning commission is here.

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And Robin, Council Member Robin Gully was unable to make it.

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All right. Next we have citizen comments, but no citizens to comment.

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So move and write along.

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The first bit of new business is approving the minutes from our last meeting on May 7th, 2025.

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Can I get a motion to approve those minutes?

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Some moved.

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And a second?

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Second?

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All in favour of approving the minutes?

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Aye.

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Any opposition?

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All right, hearing none. The minutes are approved.

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And now we get to the main new item of business for this meeting.

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And that is looking at plans for the 150 Thompson development.

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Both the apartment buildings as well as some plans for the park.

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But one at a time.

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Yeah, so yeah, thank you to that one at a time for sure.

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So the two projects are happening on parallel, but somewhat different timelines.

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So we can kind of think of them separately.

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They're not necessarily combined together.

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Obviously we have only so much space and there's other considerations and we want them to be seamless.

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But the approval processes are going to be handled separately.

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It just happens to be that we're bringing both to you tonight.

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Since we want to keep things moving forward.

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Melissa Haltma, our senior or our city planners here tonight.

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She's on crutches. She's just she's going to present room over there.

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But so she'll go through the development park and then I'll go through the park park.

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Any questions on anything.

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We'll get to it.

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All right.

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Melissa.

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Let me know if you can't can't hear me.

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So you're just said we're looking at one to two.

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So it's kind of a phased project largely.

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So most of it will be happening in phase one.

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So we've got the apartment building.

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First phase number, you can see the number one there.

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That will have 272 units.

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We'll also include town homes.

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So that's south of Crawford there nearby the existing town homes.

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I have 21 units.

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It also includes some improvements to the existing or former auto zone building.

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There were number three is.

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And then there'll be some, as Eric mentioned, some public park improvements.

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Or at least the infrastructure will be laid.

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So that the park improvements can be done at earlier date.

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And then I mentioned this in the memo, but there are also some public and private infrastructure improvements that we made.

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So one of the larger ones is relocating.

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I believe it's a storm storm pipe from the where the dark blue is to where the light blue is.

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I think that's a six or seven foot wide pipe.

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So it's a pretty substantial relocation.

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And then phase two will include that second apartment building for number six is in the 509 units.

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So it's a big project.

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It'll take a couple of years to get through.

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Looking at the removal and replacement of the landscaping on site.

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So there's quite a few trees on site.

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However, just with basically rewriting.

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The entire site all but four trees will be removed.

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So that's a total of or 200 trees.

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46 of those were actually either diseased and or damaged.

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So we're only able to count 152 of those as quality trees.

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So as per our code or the zoning code requires that at any time there's a removal of quality trees.

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At least 30% of those have to be replaced.

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So the math on that is 577 kelp branches or roughly 231 trees.

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If you assume that each tree is 2.5 inches.

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That is considered the minimum for a quality tree.

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All right.

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So proposed the submit plans included 217 trees or about 542 kelp branches.

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And some of the information on the submit plans were left blank or were lower than what would be considered the minimum requirements.

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Those numbers are assuming that those numbers would be at least the minimum requirements.

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So the size would be increased to 2.5 inches or 6 feet in height.

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So since that does still that 502 kelp branches does still fall below the minimum requirement of 577.

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We're looking for some additional additional trees or additional height or diameter for those trees.

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So possible locations that we're able to come up with or showing right here totally up for discussion.

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As I mentioned, you can all if this isn't ideal location for different trees.

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You can also just increase the higher size of the existing ones.

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One thing I'll note and I'll talk about a little bit later is the streetscape along Crawford is designed here.

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But it's kind of just a place holder.

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So the park design consultant is going to help with designing the park but also that streetscape because it's so important in bringing people into the site.

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So I wouldn't I would just kind of ignore what's mapped out on here for landscaping on that sidewalk.

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It's just kind of a place holder.

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So there's the possibility that trees will go there as well.

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We just we don't know exactly yet.

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Good point. Thank you.

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Since a lot of us will go to new impervious for the site and then that combined with the kind of clay soils just doesn't lead itself to very good natural infiltration for that water drainage.

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So those multiple components for storm water treatment retention.

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So they've got the two larger underground tanks.

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So one but essentially kind of between the two buildings and then one sort of south and east.

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And that curve underneath the curve.

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And both of those will be underneath parking lots.

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And then for the town homes there will be a biofiltration pond that will actually be able to treat all of the water from this portion of the site.

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So just overall looking to ask the community to review this submitted plans from environmental natural resources and sustainability perspective.

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And then from staff perspective just recommending kind of what I mentioned already that the height of those ever greens be at least six feet to be counted as minimum.

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For quality similarly increased to at least two and a half caliper inches.

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And that any additional trees are planted or further increased in size right to meet that minimum requirement.

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Open getting in with the good stuff.

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I'm wondering why we have the green road trees in front street.

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I'm sort of they're not made up like they're from different parts.

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I don't know if they're part of the climate resilient trees.

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The made in hair tree and the fringe tree.

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Actually I can speak specifically to the ginko that was actually commented since there is some tree that are in close proximity to the trail.

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Dakota County actually did say can we not have the ginko trees as well.

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So definitely open to different species if you've got recommendations of sounds like you're wanting more native.

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One of the ways that I learned about before was the true north that Kentucky that grew from Arizona created.

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It's a coffee tree that they don't dot pods.

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And they have a very good tolerance for the salt and it's sort of weather.

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So those were that's one that might be able to get some sort of something from the University of Minnesota for using that as well because they created this strand of tree.

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And then the other one was the honey locust that I've been saying that there are those little tiny leaves that can get into cars really easily.

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So that might be something to consider since there's really a lot of people with cars living around there.

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They can like really clog up engines and stuff.

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So that's just something to be aware of.

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We actually have one next door.

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It's the main of our existence because it can literally make our car not start because it all those leaves get into the engine.

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You can't control it.

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So what are the do you know what the priority was for those two trees like the was it to bring visual interests or stuff like not dropping leaves or dropping.

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I'm not I'm not I always differed to I'm not the tree guy I always call called Dave's I'm not super up and later with with landscaping specifically.

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But I'm going to guess the what you mentioned some some visual interest.

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Are you talking like the ornamental trees.

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Is that the way to ask me about it.

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No, no, I think those are probably okay.

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I'm just talking about the the suggest trees the maiden hair tree which is canco and the fringe tree.

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Like the like canco isn't from the US and the fringe tree I think is from Southeast US so.

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And I don't know if it's a climate like that's the thing is it is it because of some things and could we look for something that has the same properties that.

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That was involved in the selection of the tree species of the landscaping design so.

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You can't really speak to their intention but we can definitely offer you kind of the feedback.

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The other one is to is the the maples you know we are trying to diversify we ask was our number one and maple was our number two so.

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You know adding 30 more trees isn't necessarily going to break the bank.

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If we could kind of lower that number that's probably what we would recommend is a little bit more balance.

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Maybe some burrows might be like if we're that the keystone species.

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The oaks that maybe diversifying and having more oak trees.

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The included and I don't know if I don't know the sizes of the maiden hair tree in French tree if it's a size consideration because of the size of different oaks.

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I will also point out that a couple of the items that they've suggested the swap white and the northern pinnacle particularly are also listed on.

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The U of M's website as climate party trees so those are good anchor trees for this so I want to make sure it's also pointed out that there are good.

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Yeah on this it's just work concerned about the just your ornamental part of some of those trees that would not be necessarily beneficial.

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If we're going for a decision considering I'm wanting them to be the bigger party or trees and why not put in stuff that's actually benefiting the community more.

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So as you can see here it's it's a pretty urban site.

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Right that's I like to be pretty nice.

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Some of those bigger trees is going to be pretty difficult but you know there's some really nice kind of column shaped trees that other places have fit.

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So I think there's there's a lot of options which is good.

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I was excited about that all the flowering possibilities just knowing just even the spring bringing my mom to a park in Des Moines that had.

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You know like less flowering trees in this it just amazing to be able to drive through and stop and families were there taking pictures and just kind of hanging out in that so that might be a nice place for people to just go and be in the spring when we're also hungry.

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For flowering trees have that many in one spot could be really pretty.

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Excuse me a little interest.

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Especially if we're going to go through all the effort to make this sidewalk a really nice walkable place.

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Right.

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Yeah which you know we have quite begun with the consultants but this is all things that we've you know it's good to reiterate with.

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In terms of just the tree math here there they're they're so close to the requirements I don't see why they can't meet them just by by doing lighter trees I did a little math is 0.16 inches per tree without adding any more trees to the to the plan.

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So yeah I think that we should definitely ask them to meet those requirements I don't think it's out of line.

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And I'll say to the I know the developer in the architect and their landscape architect team met today.

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I got a call or for 30 today so I know this is a kind of a fast moving project and it's quite possible that by tomorrow they will have figured out a way to meet this so.

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I would I would.

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It'd be an easiest assumption that what we're seeing right now is already updated.

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I know that makes it difficult to provide feedback on it.

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But there's there is that possibility the other thing to that we don't quite have details on is the court cards so there.

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There's the possibility that there could be trees in there as well and.

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Yeah, we've asked for that and for onnings or something.

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All right.

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There was concern about this being a very tight space as well with the signs of some of those trees would that be something that.

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If they don't meet that number of trees would we consider if they had ones that will grow bigger.

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Eventually is going to take a while but would we consider that as a.

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As a body as a way to kind of meet in the middle where if they do invite some more of those.

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Eventually larger growing trees maybe the number isn't as high and at the gate but the initial planting could be lower but with the intention of bigger.

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And that could be visual interest within the park to have a beautiful large tree in the future.

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Yeah, bigger for ourselves.

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Provide more stability to the landscape that's going to be very disturbed over the next couple of years,

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but the Earth movement that I'm going on there.

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And that could be something to that this body could explore and consider as we look at our tree list,

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but also even just redevelopment.

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Like it's that balance of wanting to add trees, but sometimes you just can't make it happen.

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So how do we provide that flexibility?

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Well, kind of sticking to that desire to have trees.

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So it's that it's these instances where it gets a little sticky in the application.

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But again, they probably have already changed this plan.

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So I think it's good guidance, you know, and good to hear that, you know, you're all thinking about this and about our tree canopy variety.

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You know, I think for such a tight site, they've really thought about using every inch.

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And I think we're doing the same for the park, so it's just a good way of kind of shifting the mindset.

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And you know, I've seen other cities too, really just, you just got to think differently about how to incorporate stuff.

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And, you know, I've seen places do those, those column shape trees or other ornamentals just do it really well.

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Or it adds that greenery without adding more complex.

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Sort of on the tree common conversation where I'm looking at this chart, is that the sidewalk at the very top that white line off of Thompson?

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Another way we talked about before, one of the developments about a year ago, about visual safety for cars that are going to be going in and out of the space so that they can see pedestrians.

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Yep.

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You're talking about the trail right here.

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So, no way to talk about what the development didn't go through, but the one we were concerned about with how many trees and bushes they had right next to the trail.

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That could provide the, that would cause a blockage of visual for people on the trail to be seen by motorists.

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So, that's also going to keep in mind that we don't want to suggest trees that are going to be too low, low line, both to those visual spaces.

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Mm-hmm.

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So, I mean, obviously, because the developments probably changed by now, but just a comment to put out there for our safety concern as well.

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It looks like it's a fact for a house.

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Hopefully, yeah.

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I don't know if the last one will look like this, but this one looks like it is.

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We should provide a good visual buffer for the people living on that first floor.

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Mm-hmm.

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And these are market rate apartments correct.

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I think I, with the exception of some of the species and with a lot of the carryout to have mentioned about the idea that this plan is evolving and there's only so many trees we can fit in a space this tight.

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I think we're basically happy with, you know, the number of trees, especially with all the red dots we're seeing here for more recommendations for more recommended trees.

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Any other significant input on trees, particularly here?

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What do we got for bike parking?

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TBD.

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I don't have information on that yet.

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All right.

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I'll let you have a lot of time.

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Another one of our favorite topics.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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But as no codified as a formal requirement, so I'll have to have that above ground and below ground.

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Excellent.

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Well, especially with that will help to alleviate the flow to the park as well.

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If there's outdoor bike parking for residents and for visitors, which is the separate thing.

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But if there's visitor parking as well as resident parking for bikes, that's just.

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And we'll get to it.

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I'm sure, but I'm assuming it'll be like parking in the park as well.

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Yes.

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Yeah, similarly, we haven't quite gotten to that level detail, but certainly something we want to include.

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And I know with our partners at the county, too, that's something that they want to see.

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Yeah.

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And also for an impermeable surface kind of conversation, too.

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They right off to the developed some of the developers that were here was a couple weeks ago.

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They did confirm that they're going to be underground parking as well, which will reduce the number of parking stalls.

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We did on the surface, which is good.

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Is that, do you know if it's true for the town homes as well?

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Or is it just for the apartments?

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We have underground parking.

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For the town homes, it must be parking at grade.

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But it'll be similar to the new M&I, so be parking on base.

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And then two or three levels above.

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Or one or two, excuse me about that.

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And yeah, the plans, I saw it, like the vast majority of parking for the apartments is underground.

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And then there's a handful of underground.

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Again, thinking forward to that space, making sure that they have adequate parking for, because that's their home.

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So, making sure they have adequate protected parking for that.

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All right.

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Any other thoughts on this right now?

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I'm just with everything that is so preliminary.

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I'm assuming I'm hoping we're going to see this plan again at some point.

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In the process, or on certain, on the certain point.

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Okay.

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I think the timeline is still...

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That's what one of the phone calls was on the phone.

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You know, really letting the community development director kind of make some of those decisions.

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Look at process.

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Well, if it doesn't make it back to us, I'm assuming it'll be in the city council meeting.

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It'll be a public hearing properly.

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So, an opportunity for us to talk about it then.

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Yep.

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That's it.

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All right, cool.

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Anything else on this plan?

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All right.

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Let's talk about the park.

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Yeah.

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What is it?

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Okay.

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Park.

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So, obviously, a lot of you all know but for anyone at home, this is a city guided redevelopment

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of the former YMCA and city golf course.

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For the park project and the streetscaping, we've hired Damon Farber,

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they're landscape architect.

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They are also helping us with the Smith Dodd work.

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So, they'll be working on the city park, which we will all see tonight.

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And then the streetscaping, like I mentioned, still in development.

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Actually, don't even know if we've started to develop it.

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So, I don't know if I can say it's still in development.

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Community engagement.

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We've got a lot of different conversations about this park and this site.

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Going even further back than fall of 2023, but we really started to talk about the park itself.

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And what it could include in the broad vision in the fall of 2023.

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And then there's been a lot of kind of figuring out how this site could work and how the development

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could go in there.

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Obviously, the development helps to pay for a lot of the park.

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And we had to have that kind of be the lead.

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We, Damon Farber then developed several site sketches, which we released in late spring.

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Had some feedback on those.

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And that led us to the two concept alternatives that we're considering tonight.

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But our goal, broadly, we really want this to be a unique space.

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We want it to be different than our other parks.

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We really want it to be that kind of town center feel.

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I want to take advantage of the location.

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It's centrally located.

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It's on the river to River Greenway.

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It's a lot.

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It's near a lot of different amenities within walking distance, which is great.

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You know, we want to tell the story of West Saint Paul.

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We really want to kind of lean into some of our branding and place making initiatives

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and our kind of growing art efforts.

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Want this to be really welcoming.

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All ages, all seasons, and all seasons is something that we've all talked a lot about.

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And then have these different gatherings spaces.

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And think of it as a space for events.

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You know, farmers market art festival, music in the park.

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I really want you to not think about explore West Saint Paul days our biggest biggest event.

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It might just be a little bit more of an acoustic kind of music in the park type thing.

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So we don't want to do kind of the black Friday planning of parking lots where we make them as big as they can be for two days out of the year.

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We asked the community about priorities in that early stage.

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I won't go through all of them, but they're listed down there on the right hand side.

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It really aligns well with kind of what the vision has been for a long time.

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Accessibility and bathrooms, though, are two things that have come up.

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Bathrooms come up all the time.

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So in the park designing process, you know, you've probably seen this.

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We start with kind of a broad vision, which there was a vision for the site when the IV project did not move forward.

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That helped to kind of set the stage as does our park system plan.

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And then we get into more sites specific planning.

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So we really start with the concept plan and then we do design plan and then construction planning.

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You can think of, we're at the like 20, 25% stage.

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We're still really early.

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So it's that later stages that we figure out what are the tree species going to be.

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Where exactly are the benches going to be, what are the benches going to look like.

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All those detailed things kind of come later once we kind of set the stage.

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You know, a little bit of this came up at the earlier conversation, but as far as site constraints and considerations, there's a lot to consider here.

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And I always encourage people to think about not just the ground, but above ground utilities and below ground utilities.

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So there's always a lot that has to fit into a site.

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And then of course there's things like water and safety and materials and programming and operations.

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So you know, definitely as you're providing feedback.

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We want to think about all these different pieces.

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And then of course, the last two, which are, well, the second to last one is the least fun, but money.

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Of course, we always have to think about money.

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Like I mentioned, there is some money that's generated from the site through tax increment financing that goes into the development of the park.

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But at this stage, we don't know exactly, you know, kind of if we'll meet that mark, if we had, you know, we will go look for grants of course, as we always do, but we don't necessarily know what that gap will be.

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But of course, if there are gaps and Damon Farber has already thinking about this, if we don't have all the money at the beginning.

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We are thinking about how can we face things in.

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So as additional resources come in, or as we secure grant, how can we incorporate those at a later time?

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Of course, easier to do it all at once, but, you know, we're a pragmatic here.

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So we have two concepts.

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The first one is this fill way.

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What's fun about both of these is they really kind of play around with the site in different ways, but fit a lot of the same things.

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We do have the possibility at this stage where if you like one more than the other, but you feel like one amenity or component of the other,

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Should really be incorporated, we can still do that.

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So it's still an early sketchy now idea that.

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Faith.

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You know, getting to the site obviously we hope that people will buy bike walk and use transit, but we know that people will still drive.

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So this really takes a look at how do we incorporate more parking.

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We wanted to do that without it really feeling like it's taking over the site.

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So this, I don't remember exactly number, and of course there's still some details to work through, but it's about 70 parking stalls.

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The other one has about 50.

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This one, you know, it does offer kind of that opportunity to close one portion off.

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If we did want to put a farmer's market in there, or we've put in these spaces along kind of the more active, the parallel parking stalls, so that food trucks or other vendors could sneak in here.

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So, you know, we could have an event where we just had two food trucks and they kind of sneak in there and they don't really take up a lot of the other parking.

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Both consider, you know, the stormwater plans that you saw for the development side have this sketched out as the layout, either one we can figure out how to put the parking under or put the stormwater under the parking.

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This one was included in the plans, because this one, as I'll get into, is kind of the clear favorite not to be biased or to move your conversation in one direction or the other, but staff, staff like this option more.

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And the community feedback has been pretty clear that they like both, but that this one is preferred, so we kind of move that roadway part.

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Working plan forward. We do want to think about stormwater and there's a potential to put it in the

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sister and underground, but we also think that there's some ways that we can play around with

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the stormwater so that people like to be near water and plane in water. So this one would

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kind of pull some of that stormwater into the site and create kind of this creek dry creek kind

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of feel. The splashwater feature could also kind of dumping to that. So I haven't quite figured

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out all the details, of course, early concept, but there would be this splash feature and then this

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creek and you can kind of see some of these stones. It could be a laser people could kind of also

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have a place to play and explore. And also a space that we could, you know, incorporate a lot of landscaping

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and trees and gardens. Damon Farber helped to develop. There's a new park out in the parking lot of

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ridge down mall and I'd encourage any of you to go visit it because it's pretty dang cool, but they did

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something similar at that site and it's beautiful.

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Rushrooms, as I mentioned, really important, so we would put something in probably similar to Marthaller Park,

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a different design, a little bit of a shade, potentially, concessions, of course we have to kind of see what

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the market is there. You could be sees no, we don't exactly know it's so early conversations. A smaller

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picnic shelter for smaller events or gatherings. A ban shell in this option, it could be a

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two way of ban shell. So facing north, if it's a bigger event, south, if it's kind of a smaller

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more intimate event. We'd have this play feature, which, you know, we've kind of discussed early on something

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unique, something a little bit more structural and artful. This urban beach, you know, we thought

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how could we do something a little bit different than anyone else has in the metro. And since it's near

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this water feature, we thought just kind of a layout of sand and some movable chairs and some shade.

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So you could hang out, get a little tan, and then if you get too hot, you jump in the splash

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feature and cool off. Out of all places, we kind of stole this idea from Detroit Michigan, where they put

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in an urban beach and it's incredibly popular and it has totally out there of idolized downtown.

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It's a very cool spot. It's super cool. I'm trying a part of downtown Detroit is very cool, but that in

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particular it's a very popular hang out spot. People kind of go great place for music and this is

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close enough to the beach and shelf. Yeah. It's also very European. Yeah. There's something different.

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We would have this large event one. That is something that could be, you know, that is kind of where

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we could play around at the site too. We could collapse that. It's fairly decent.

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With some shade, it's a pager for you this. This kind of sits within a bowl. It's kind of hard to imagine

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right now. And there are some renderings and we're going to get renderings of these parts of the well,

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but it kind of sits in a bowl. So kind of this eastern edge would be up a little bit higher.

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So we thought we could pull in some of this hillside play. Some of these more quieter spaces for

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hammockine, you know, some benches. This would be kind of the area where if you want to read a book,

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you're just with one friend you'd probably hang out on this side, but if you're with a couple of friends,

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you'd probably hang out on this side. And then probably the last piece is that pond overlook. So

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we know it's not the nicest water, but people still like to look at water and people actually are

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down there quite a bit right now. So just another opportunity for people to enjoy that space.

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And then a few little spots where we thought about incorporating art. That could be something that we

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phase in as funding becomes available. Signage of course is really important, so we would scatter that

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throughout, you know, other things to benches and whatnot. And then probably the last piece that

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I'll highlight in Ensemble is maybe a little bit hard to see, but just kind of sketching out some of these

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lights. So you know, this will be, people will be able to go all the way through, but we want it to be

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pedestrian-oriented. And so we don't want people flying through here. So the thought is that we would create

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this kind of ceiling on the park or on the drive. So there's just kind of another visual of this is a unique

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space, don't drive as fast, be aware. It also helps with kind of playful and artful and light it up.

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So it kind of hit them a lot of different things there. And to there is, we've examples, photo examples

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of a lot of these. So if you have any questions, I can pull this up as well. It's like,

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what is the drift? A lot of the same features, just kind of in a different location. The big thing

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that drives this design is the different road and parking layout. The big stormwater feature

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is put closer to the apartment buildings. And it's not quite sketched out on here, but we could think

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about a creative way to kind of pull people down from the apartments. People won't be able,

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the public won't be able to get through here. So I think that's where there's, there's some

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upsides to kind of utilizing a lot of the space here for the public side. But we would look at some kind

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of creative pond solution there. You know, a lot of the same amenities, concessions,

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restrooms, you know, a lot of spaces to sit, music. Probably the difference is there's only kind of

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one play area in this option. Incorporate a couple of table games. So it could be, you know, table tennis

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or there's kind of a foos ball, kind of great things that can be put in. A half court basket ball,

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these two hills, they wouldn't necessarily be all that tall, but we have dirt that we have to kind of

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play around on the site. So we could put that there. There'd be some kind of a kind of a kind of a

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concrete bench along the outside of those hills. Another pond overlook one thing that we've

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talked about with the county. And they've said that they're, they like both plans. So it's not totally

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critical, but wanting to provide a little bit of a buffer between the bikeway where people sometimes

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bike faster and aren't always on the lookout for kids or people walking. You know, you can imagine

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if they quickly dart south from a place-based that there could be conflicts. So just wanting to think

428
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about a little bit of a buffer. So in this option there's this kind of a grove seating LA. I think is what

429
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:55,160
it's technically called, which is a very European term, but just kind of this arcade of trees.

430
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,160
So again, I can pull up some photos. I've got a little bit more information. It's a lot to take in.

431
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:12,760
I know we have done engagement. We've we had the open house. We had information out at WestFest. We had

432
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,840
information at the Martheller Park Grand Opening. And then we have an online survey, which is

433
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:29,160
still open for folks. We've asked people to rate the two parks on a five-point scale, five stars scale,

434
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:39,640
technically. But in the cumulative, the spillway option has a higher score. So quite a bit.

435
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:49,800
This I thought you'd all be very interested in. So we've put, we bucketed everything into kind of eight

436
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,440
different categories, which you can see there. And we asked people to rank them home-point they were. And again,

437
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:04,120
in the cumulative, you can see where things landed. You can see on the left-hand side is just the basic ranking.

438
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:12,680
But on the right-hand side, you see how they're weighted. And what's fun is that, you know,

439
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:20,120
kind of these natural features are really high at the top. You know, even the game in sports compared

440
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:27,720
to the water player, the trees. It's like two and a half times for the trees and these more natural features.

441
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:35,320
So pretty clear that, you know, people want to emphasize that in this park, which is fantastic.

442
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,760
And interestingly, you know, some of the comments have been kind of the one-on-one conversations,

443
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:49,560
the comments have been about parking, but parking here is a much lower priority, which kind of shocked me.

444
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:55,240
So yeah, interestingly, they kind of wait through. When we ask about kind of when we dug into the

445
00:39:55,240 --> 00:40:01,320
next level down on features, and we just kind of asked, do you want to include it? Is it a high priority? Do you want to

446
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,680
include it? Is it a lower priority? Should we not include it? Or are you unsure? And then we kind of wait them?

447
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,000
These are the more popular features versus least popular features. And when I say least popular features,

448
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:19,160
nobody, it's not like anyone's like really mad about the basketball court. It's just a handful of

449
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,440
people said, maybe not. So there's a lot of support for most of the features.

450
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,800
That's why there's only three because really there wasn't much kind of rose to the top.

451
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:39,800
But there is a little bit of alignment to the previous question. So restrooms and trees, though,

452
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:46,120
were, I think everyone said restrooms and one person said no on the trees. So

453
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,320
why don't know what that was about? Maybe they misunderstood the question or something. So the far

454
00:40:54,120 --> 00:41:01,800
ton of support for restrooms and trees. Not not. So that online survey will probably keep it open

455
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,840
through the end of July, even though we're kind of getting a sense of where things are going.

456
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,240
In-person conversations, we've had the information out in the lobby. A couple of people I've

457
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:21,000
chatted with. It seems like pretty clear people want the spillway option.

458
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:31,880
Which, like, maybe this group too. So we'll take this also to the Parks and Record Advisory Committee

459
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:38,120
next week, kind of dig into some of it. But it kind of seems like the writing is on the wall that we

460
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,960
should move forward with the first option. Maybe pull a couple of those other components in

461
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:52,520
and then we'll begin to narrow down into one specific design. We'll also work on some of the streets

462
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:58,920
caping and then, you know, don't exactly know what the timeline will look like. Maybe it'll come back to

463
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:07,720
this body again. But regardless, we'll have the concept plan approved by Council and then we kind of

464
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:18,440
hash out a lot of the other details kind of behind the scenes. We will also do 3D renderings

465
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:25,240
of the one concept that we narrow down. So, you know, again, it's kind of hard to imagine kind of the layout

466
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:35,240
of this site and people don't always look at a park from above. So we're kind of designing it like

467
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:40,200
if you were in an airplane and we want people to see what it will look like on the ground. So that's

468
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:46,120
coming as well. So any questions on any of them? Would you like to see any of the images too?

469
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,160
I have a question. I have a question. Yeah. On the first plan, the spillway, is that

470
00:42:52,040 --> 00:43:00,120
hill, is that hillside big enough for sledding? Probably not. Okay. And then the second question is for the

471
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,760
ban shell with that open line and the ban shell with the possibility going either direction.

472
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Is it one of the options for later on possibly doing like movies in that park from the ban shell?

473
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Probably we can figure out just a screen situation. We do own a screen as well. Actually. Okay.

474
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,640
So, you know, it's something that we could even put on the north side when we do a movie in the park.

475
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,320
Yeah, those are kind of some of the details that we figure out a little bit later. We do want to

476
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:33,880
think about, you know, kind of how to performers get to the space and unload. We also want to think about

477
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,880
some storage there. So some of those more logistical behind the scenes type things are still kind of

478
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:48,360
in development. And then maybe on the bottom right where the hammocks are putting some of those

479
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:56,120
tabletop games in our mixed in there. Possibly. I was thinking that to review with the basketball.

480
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,160
I know it wasn't a super popular option, but I feel like the basketball courts are a really good

481
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:07,800
structured play opportunity for like older kids or teens who might not want to play on like the

482
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:14,440
natural stuff that still want to be out in the park. So I guess a question for you all and thinking that

483
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,400
this would be a little bit more of a quiet kind of sheer hope. I like that for me.

484
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,600
One thing that, you know, we've already talked about, can we put a row of trees on this side?

485
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:36,120
But we've one discussion we've had is, you know, because this is right on the sidewalk,

486
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:42,760
could we shift everything, maybe 10 feet in, provides a little bit more of a natural buffer.

487
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:51,160
So, you know, for kids running, it's a little bit further to run to the parking lot, for those driving,

488
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:59,720
it's a little bit more of a visual barrier. So, you know, that does cut in your food truck access pretty quickly.

489
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Yeah, maybe we could keep some of it open. And we would still have a sidewalk along the parking, but it's just saying this urban beach would maybe be here.

490
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Yeah. So providing just a little bit more of that landscaping opportunity. It's squeezing. So I guess the question, if we were to do table tuck games, would you like to see them over in the more active space?

491
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:37,000
I think table tuck table makes sense in there if they were like, or I guess I'm thinking more of like chess or something like that.

492
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:43,000
That's easy. That's true. I guess I wasn't thinking about like, yeah, do you think like that?

493
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Yeah, I was thinking the quiet ones.

494
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Games could fit the hammock area.

495
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Yeah, yeah.

496
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:55,000
You know, if we do want to throw like a ping pong or a fuzball, I think that would very much more of a long and the more north, north, west.

497
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Yeah.

498
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,000
And things.

499
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:03,000
The splash, the splash, pad area or the, um, or the play area.

500
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Mm-hmm.

501
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,000
So, and I know, you know, parking wreck, well, obviously review a little bit more of the recreation side of things.

502
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Yeah, just for your consideration, just the size of a half core basketball.

503
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Mm-hmm.

504
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,000
You know, kind of thinking that that's what you have to kind of fit it.

505
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
So it is, again, one of those things of how much space do you have?

506
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,000
You have to take a lot out to fit.

507
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,000
It takes a lot of space.

508
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:30,000
I think that things that you'd want for adolescents, so you'd want close to the things that are also for the little kids.

509
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000
If they're, you have a family in a certain area.

510
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:42,000
I don't know, you know, if that's the consideration of, did they need to be close to their family or not?

511
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:49,000
To have a closer to that feature play and splash pad area where the kiddos are?

512
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Mm-hmm.

513
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,000
I don't know.

514
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000
I don't know that it needs a basketball court.

515
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
I'm talking table, yeah.

516
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Oh, the table talking, see.

517
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:05,000
Yeah, I go back and forth because I was wondering about what the surveys chances are of adolescents weren't surveyed as much.

518
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000
You know, like, you do have some demographic.

519
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,000
There's, I think, very few that have responded.

520
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Yeah.

521
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:21,000
And so I'm wondering what they're, how are we hearing from them to make it a space that they would use as well?

522
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Yeah.

523
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Yeah.

524
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
I think we, it's a balance.

525
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
It's a balance.

526
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,000
And, you know, there's a lot of teams that don't play basketball too, right?

527
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000
Right.

528
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
Well, that's what I'm saying.

529
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
That's a basketball focus.

530
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Yeah.

531
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Yeah.

532
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Yeah.

533
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:54,000
And I would say as far as, like, more outreach, that's where you all come in for sure, too, is helping to spread that on social media and to your neighbors and whatnot.

534
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:03,000
So, definitely appreciate any support you can get in getting the word out, because we'd love to see more input for sure.

535
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Can we share these on social media?

536
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Oh, yeah.

537
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Okay.

538
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Yep.

539
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000
I have a few questions.

540
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000
Is that okay?

541
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Yeah.

542
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:23,000
So I'm wondering if the creek is safe, if it's stormwater, if people go into the creek, is that considered safe for them?

543
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:30,000
I would say, and I, I've, like, thought about, do we all do a field trip out to this fridge still location?

544
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,000
Yeah.

545
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,000
I mean, the thought is that it would be, it's filtered.

546
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
It's not necessarily something, you know.

547
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Because you said it's going to probably go through, like, that slash pad, so it would probably somewhere in there.

548
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Yeah.

549
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Is this slash pad water coming from the stormwater?

550
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Nope.

551
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Is there a way to design it that it could be?

552
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000
If we got a really big grant.

553
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
Like a huge deal.

554
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,000
I can't think that thing's big thing, right?

555
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:17,000
I'm wondering if in the future play area or the hillside play, maybe, are there natural play features like logs and builders going anywhere?

556
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Yeah.

557
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000
We haven't gotten to that level of detail.

558
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Okay.

559
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,000
But, you know, that's what we're doing at Kennedy Park and sort of interesting to see how that plays out.

560
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,000
Yeah.

561
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Yeah.

562
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,000
Certainly things that we're thinking about.

563
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Okay.

564
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Are there grills in the, any of the picnic areas?

565
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,000
Yeah.

566
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,000
That's.

567
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Again.

568
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Again.

569
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
It's like those really fine.

570
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
If it's the size of this, yes.

571
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,000
I'm sorry.

572
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
It's not in there.

573
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,000
That's probably like a good thing.

574
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Okay.

575
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
I have one more question that might be on that.

576
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000
I'm wondering.

577
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
And this might be just me not having enough awareness.

578
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
What's the concern of movable chairs and hammocks?

579
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Is there a way of, of waiting theft of those things?

580
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Is that something that?

581
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Something I want to hear about over at Smith.

582
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,000
But I'll say, I just did a road trip out to Rhode Island.

583
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
And I looked at, I was by myself.

584
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,000
So I could look at any park I wanted to look at.

585
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Which was fantastic.

586
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
And they're everywhere.

587
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,000
And they're in some cities that you would think that's going to be gone.

588
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,000
Yeah.

589
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,000
And they're not.

590
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
And Detroit was one of them that kind of did it.

591
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Detroit and Brian Park in New York.

592
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,000
Which Brian Park was in a really bad state when they did that.

593
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,000
And they've most places to find that they don't go missing.

594
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Okay.

595
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,000
But there are ways to hook them up too.

596
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000
Yeah.

597
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,000
So it's that.

598
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,000
Extremely easy.

599
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Yeah.

600
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
We all make it easy.

601
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
And maybe they're heavier.

602
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000
And so.

603
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Thank you.

604
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:00,000
Can we give enough on the idea of a skateboard park?

605
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000
Hmm.

606
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
A dislocation.

607
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Um, you know, again, you can.

608
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,000
I don't even know.

609
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:13,000
It would probably be about the size of this hillside point.

610
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Yeah.

611
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
That's what I'm wondering.

612
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,000
Yeah.

613
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000
So at this location.

614
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
It would be for adolescents.

615
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Yeah.

616
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,000
Yeah.

617
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,000
So it would that make sense.

618
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,000
But if that's an entertainment space, that's going to be a noise issue.

619
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Yeah.

620
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,000
So.

621
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000
I feel like the table top games are good.

622
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Like in between two that don't take up a ton of space.

623
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,000
You know, they've done a lot of kind of.

624
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,000
There's been a lot of more emphasis on teen girls.

625
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,000
And how do you design for a park?

626
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Yeah.

627
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,000
It's places to sit and places to walk.

628
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,000
Mm-hmm.

629
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,000
And something.

630
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,000
Hands on.

631
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,000
But.

632
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,000
But it's like you can kind of.

633
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Unfortunately, kind of kids age out of play stuff.

634
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Yeah.

635
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Kind of pretty quickly.

636
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
And then they'd just become many adults.

637
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,000
So it's a lot about socializing.

638
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,000
And that's where we've thought about socializing spaces, water.

639
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Yeah.

640
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:23,000
You know, hopefully we can do the concessions and food and stuff to drink.

641
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,000
So.

642
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,000
But yes, skate park not necessarily something in our draft park system plan.

643
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,000
We've sketched it out as a maybe a future possibility.

644
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,000
It's what's complex, which you know, isn't very far either.

645
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
I've got a couple of questions.

646
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Maybe we're comments.

647
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,000
But comparing.

648
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Well, my first question is, I don't think I'm visualizing.

649
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,000
I think I'm visualizing currently the light situation for safety here on this billway.

650
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,000
Would that be something where the lights are literally pointing across from each other sort of thing.

651
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Creating a ceiling.

652
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Because that's something we'll see in a render.

653
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,000
We, again, haven't quite figured out the level of detail.

654
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Okay.

655
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,000
I can show you one thing that we've.

656
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,000
I don't need to open another one.

657
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,000
We had a picture in season.

658
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,000
One thing that we've talked about.

659
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000
I think it just kind of go through some of these.

660
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000
This is kind of that two way.

661
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000
And show idea.

662
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,000
You know, this is, this is that rich deal location.

663
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
So they actually did this.

664
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,000
The water feature is actually the outline of Lake Minotanka.

665
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
And then it just kind of bubbles up.

666
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
So it won't be like the harm in park splash pad.

667
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,000
A little bit more just kind of bubbly.

668
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Also because we don't want it to be too kid focused.

669
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,000
So, you know, a teen wouldn't necessarily feel weird.

670
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Or an adult wouldn't necessarily feel kind of dipping their toe in this space.

671
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,000
You know, you can see here a lot of these movable chairs.

672
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Oh, and I should say once this kind of fills up this outline,

673
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,000
it then spills into that creek way.

674
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,000
If we go back to the other one,

675
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:12,000
one thing that might be in cool climbing features for the page up.

676
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,000
And that might be a liability thing.

677
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,000
But on the right side, it looks like there's a little bit of a climbing thing.

678
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Yeah, you can kind of see kind of that.

679
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Some of that hillside play with that could look like.

680
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Yeah, yeah.

681
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000
You know, on again, like I just went to this park.

682
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,000
This is in Fort Wayne.

683
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
And everyone just loves water.

684
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000
Right?

685
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Right?

686
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
That's a great way to play with these lugs.

687
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:43,000
The playground kind of want to think about a more kind of like structural iconic play feature.

688
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Do you want to have these kind of areas of respite and quiet?

689
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
I think that that's really important to have kind of these tiny rooms.

690
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
These little alcoves.

691
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
Yeah, so that if you.

692
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,000
You know, we all need our quiet.

693
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
I want to think about art and light.

694
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Maybe it's artful light.

695
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,000
Different ways to sign it.

696
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:17,000
And again, those are under this fillway, but a lot of the same concept can be brought into either of them.

697
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
You know, we do want to think about nighttime.

698
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,000
We do want to think about winter.

699
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Yeah.

700
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Again, some of that hillside play opportunity.

701
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
You know, and we're thinking about some of these.

702
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
A little bit more branded benches.

703
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000
You know, we've got our color scheme and how to incorporate that.

704
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Yep.

705
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
We'll opt to use for art and storytelling.

706
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,000
And then we're finding, and then here's what I was finally getting to.

707
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000
This.

708
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,000
Yeah, overhead.

709
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Like that.

710
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,000
Light.

711
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,000
You'll actually see them in Target as well.

712
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
They can be indoor outdoor.

713
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
But this is an Arizona.

714
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000
And they wanted to have this road be a little bit more pedestrian focus.

715
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
So they put those lights over there.

716
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000
So it's more of a visual cue.

717
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,000
And that's it for the president images.

718
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
Our Steve, I'm considered.

719
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Yeah, they're not in here, but yeah, particularly for here.

720
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,000
And here.

721
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Here.

722
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,000
And kind of in there.

723
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
We want to have control.

724
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Yeah.

725
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,000
I do want to specifically compliment the parking lot.

726
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Yeah.

727
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,000
And I do not like parking lots.

728
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,000
I want to get rid of parking lots.

729
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,000
This is a great parking lot.

730
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,000
Yes.

731
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000
I was shocked when you mentioned how many spots are there.

732
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,000
And like just the flexibility for food trucks and farmers markets.

733
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Like I acknowledge that we need parking.

734
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000
This is good parking.

735
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000
It feels like it's part of it.

736
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,000
Mm-hmm.

737
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
It doesn't feel like it's tacked on.

738
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,000
I think what I really like is when you look at the addition of 20 spaces.

739
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,000
And just kind of how it's been designed.

740
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000
It doesn't feel like you lose anything.

741
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,000
It doesn't really.

742
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000
Like it almost feels like.

743
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,000
Wow.

744
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,000
And I think that's why so many people are leaning towards the first option is that it's like,

745
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Oh, we get a lot out of this.

746
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Yeah.

747
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:13,000
That drift also feels like it's encouraging more driving traffic than this one is.

748
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,000
This does have the curving that is just the curving to slip it down.

749
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Yeah.

750
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,000
And I will say of the two of them.

751
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:26,000
The, some of the original conversations about the space being a community space.

752
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,000
The first one encourages a slow down spend some time here.

753
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000
But then keep going because there are other features.

754
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,000
Like there was mentioned at the very beginning.

755
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
We want this to be a place that people gather.

756
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,000
But then they can go from there to the other amenities nearby.

757
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,000
Like the library or come from library to here and it'd be a moving space.

758
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:47,000
So it's pretty much a sense out there that the basketball court thing.

759
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,000
It's not like even the community was not really concerned about.

760
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:57,000
But I think the structure play as part of the feature play is a good idea.

761
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
Even some more.

762
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Older teen adults theme sort of art pieces that could be used as a structured play.

763
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:11,000
And encouraging this place to be lively.

764
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,000
Which on that note would this be potentially a place that could be rented out.

765
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Like the concession area or the part or the.

766
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,000
A billion potentially.

767
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Yeah.

768
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,000
That's another detail.

769
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Yes.

770
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,000
That is kind of the goal.

771
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,000
But.

772
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Some parameters are on there.

773
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,000
Of course.

774
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,000
With the teens.

775
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Like you're saying that they get bored of the thing.

776
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,000
So quickly or whatever.

777
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,000
Just being conscious of the programming.

778
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,000
You know.

779
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,000
You know.

780
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,000
You know.

781
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,000
You know.

782
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,000
Before the programming hits over the middle school go the high school.

783
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,000
That's what we can be like.

784
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,000
What would you like to have happen there.

785
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,000
And then draw them in from the beginning.

786
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,000
Once they start coming, then they'll keep coming.

787
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Probably.

788
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,000
You know.

789
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Do you like that.

790
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000
I'll let the bands and stuff like that.

791
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Right.

792
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Yeah.

793
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,000
Yeah.

794
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
It's probably going to be something that just kind of has to grow over time.

795
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Of course.

796
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,000
We have pretty limited staff.

797
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Yeah.

798
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,000
We want to think about programming and how we can.

799
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,000
Activate it.

800
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,000
You know.

801
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,000
Definitely not on a daily basis.

802
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
We don't have quite the capacity for that.

803
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
But I think the big open of that long thing.

804
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,000
For sex too.

805
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,000
Because.

806
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Yeah.

807
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,000
To mind.

808
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
We have this force complex for some big open green areas.

809
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,000
But those are definitely more structured towards baseball and soccer.

810
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,000
This being open.

811
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,000
I can see people potentially.

812
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Bring your first be here or bringing a blanket to lay on the.

813
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:36,000
It's not super hot and sunny out and using the space as a.

814
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,000
The ultimate.

815
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,000
Imagine to play because there's no structure.

816
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,000
So I think.

817
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Also having that gigantic bit of green compared to the other concept as well is also really

818
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,000
enticing.

819
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:53,000
I'll also comment here that I talked about with the developer as well with the open house of.

820
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,000
I like this concept more as well because of the way that it structures the.

821
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,000
The high grade.

822
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Difference between the living space to the event space, because otherwise it's a big stormwater pond.

823
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:12,000
And it definitely uses that space much more efficiently.

824
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,000
Yeah.

825
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:22,000
And just from previous conversations we've had about unofficial snow hills. This would eliminate that being an unofficial snow hill necessarily,

826
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,000
which from a safety standard, it would be concerning to have people on that I was thinking.

827
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,000
Talking about this. Yes.

828
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:41,000
So yeah, this is kind of hard to imagine, but there's a hill right here. It's pretty steep hill up to the apartment buildings.

829
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:49,000
And also just seeing more trees up there again with erosion and gray changes and all of that.

830
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:56,000
Anything that you would pull from this plan, again remembering sight considerations and constraints.

831
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:01,000
Anything that you pull from this plan into this other plan, or adjustments you would make to this plan.

832
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,000
It's only the table tossing.

833
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Like everything like so.

834
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,000
You know, you kind of mentioned, yeah.

835
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,000
How old are you for a baby?

836
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,000
There's a little bit of a dog.

837
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Is there space for something like that?

838
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,000
I don't think I'd want that here.

839
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:23,000
So there's a dog run just on the other side of the apartment buildings.

840
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,000
But those small dog runs don't really get used.

841
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,000
Okay.

842
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000
I would, I know if I brought my dog in there.

843
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,000
She'd look at me like, what do you want me to do?

844
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,000
No, I think we like the one.

845
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,000
So yeah, we.

846
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,000
I think that would change the, and you know, I'm a huge dog person.

847
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,000
But I don't think we'd want dogs barking all the time.

848
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,000
That would take away from quiet space.

849
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Yeah.

850
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,000
How do you feel about kind of this edge?

851
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:57,000
And whether or not we, or even, you know, some of these spaces.

852
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,000
And I'm not saying it would be a consistent kind of landscape buffer.

853
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,000
You know, we could have breaks in it throughout.

854
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,000
But providing a little bit more of a buffer.

855
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,000
Do you feel like that's something you'd like to see?

856
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,000
I think it'd be in squeeze that in, like you were saying with the kids like running out and stuff like that.

857
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,000
I think that would be why.

858
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,000
I like it from a safety standpoint.

859
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Potentially as a more space-efficient alternative.

860
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Maybe like a low fence kind of like what's around the perimeter by the splashbed at Harmon Park.

861
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,000
I don't know.

862
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,000
They've got a lot of, you know, shrubbery and stuff around that fence.

863
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,000
But the fence itself is what's doing the job there.

864
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:47,000
Well, didn't they end up having to, didn't we end up having to add a part of fence at Thompson for that kind of reason?

865
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,000
Was that something to do?

866
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Around the feature play.

867
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,000
Right.

868
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,000
But that's just, I mean, is that something we need to, at least have that.

869
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,000
Something?

870
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,000
Yeah.

871
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,000
It's something, it's a balance, of course.

872
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,000
Yeah.

873
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,000
Because I think any time you put a fence around a playground, then it does.

874
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Okay.

875
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,000
It puts another barrier to people going into it.

876
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Right.

877
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,000
So, and one of the reasons that it was done at Thompson was that, you know,

878
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,000
the idea is fully accessible playgrounds you want to fence.

879
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,000
Yeah.

880
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,000
Others you may want to just have a little bit more of a barrier.

881
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,000
So, I'm right there, too.

882
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,000
I think.

883
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,000
Yeah.

884
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,000
And this is, you know, and again, like, that's not going to be running water all the time, partly ever.

885
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:27,000
Probably last week when we got five inches in the rain, it would be pretty wet.

886
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,000
But by now it would probably be dried out.

887
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,000
So, there is that kind of buffer.

888
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,000
So.

889
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:38,000
If you had more of a buffer with that, also be a concern of visual,

890
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,000
and for the driver is being able to see if the kids running.

891
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Mm-hmm.

892
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,000
Yeah.

893
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,000
That's a balance.

894
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,000
Yeah.

895
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:49,000
We also want, you know, police to be able to see into the site.

896
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,000
So that's another consideration, too.

897
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,000
So.

898
01:03:52,000 --> 01:04:00,000
This is a thought thinking about making a buffer could that storm water dry creek be made to become the buffer on that western side.

899
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:06,000
Where sharply, more sharply turns in that way, it kind of flips as an option.

900
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,000
Yeah.

901
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,000
That's.

902
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,000
Yeah.

903
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,000
Because I would provide, I think.

904
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,000
It would definitely put us slow down.

905
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,000
It moves it away from the splash pad.

906
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,000
It is the only negative.

907
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,000
I see to that.

908
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,000
But otherwise, it's like the idea.

909
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,000
What if you, like, flipped the storm water play in the beach?

910
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,000
Yeah.

911
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,000
It's completely changed.

912
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,000
Let's just let those things around.

913
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,000
Yeah.

914
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,000
The one thing.

915
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,000
Mm-hmm.

916
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:36,000
You know, and again, we'll, we'll keep working on these as we do want that creek to be kind of a space.

917
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Where you could go explore a little bit.

918
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,000
Mm-hmm.

919
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,000
So.

920
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,000
Yeah.

921
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,000
You know, kind of some of these ideas.

922
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Yeah.

923
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,000
I like that.

924
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
So we'll think about how we buffer this in some way.

925
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,000
The good thing that I kind of hated was we can crunch this.

926
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
So we have space.

927
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,000
And this is still a pretty big.

928
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,000
So this.

929
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Yeah.

930
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,000
This park is.

931
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,000
That's.

932
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
It's two and a half acres, just for context.

933
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,000
So.

934
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,000
So this lawn is.

935
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,000
It's pretty big.

936
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,000
Yeah.

937
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,000
So we can crunch that.

938
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,000
And we've actually had some comments of people saying the lawn seems pretty big.

939
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Yeah.

940
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,000
That's right.

941
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,000
It's like what?

942
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,000
What?

943
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000
What?

944
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,000
What feels worth or so or.

945
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,000
An entire park would be nice.

946
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,000
It's about an acre.

947
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,000
So I don't know what that would.

948
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,000
I just met the open grass park as well.

949
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,000
Yeah.

950
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,000
Yeah.

951
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,000
The open lawn is probably a little bit smaller than an acre.

952
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,000
But.

953
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,000
That's quite.

954
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,000
Yeah.

955
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,000
So we can probably crunch this.

956
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,000
Yeah.

957
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,000
So we can probably add in another row of trees.

958
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,000
Yeah.

959
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,000
I was thinking about that.

960
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:42,000
So I was just at the Pride Parade on Sunday and I hung out under a tree the entire time.

961
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,000
Yeah.

962
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,000
And made my friends come to me because I was like, I'm too hot.

963
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,000
We can't.

964
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,000
And I'm thinking.

965
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,000
Because I was thinking of that too.

966
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,000
On the side where the concessions are.

967
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,000
But we also might want it.

968
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:59,000
That people can enjoy from the concessions too.

969
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
For whatever.

970
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,000
Or use a bandshow.

971
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,000
Yeah.

972
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Yeah.

973
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,000
We'll figure out, you know, kind of like we mentioned last conversation just the selection of the tree.

974
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,000
Yeah.

975
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Yeah.

976
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,000
I'm also wondering about which I'm guessing is coming later.

977
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:20,000
Where landscaping of plants goes within this.

978
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,000
Yeah.

979
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,000
That's a future detail.

980
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,000
That's a future detail.

981
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,000
It also will probably be about your very detail.

982
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,000
Yeah.

983
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:37,000
I think we want to have more, but the more concrete, the more kind of bedding, the more all of that adds up.

984
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,000
Right.

985
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:43,000
So we would be adding plants on like the edges of the event line.

986
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,000
Yep.

987
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,000
That's nice.

988
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,000
It's all pretty high level at this point.

989
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,000
Yeah.

990
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,000
It's kind of like we have to figure out the big.

991
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,000
The big details.

992
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,000
And it's those tiny little spaces that we figure out.

993
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,000
Yeah.

994
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,000
I think like you can see.

995
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,000
Like what they did, you know.

996
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Yep.

997
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,000
Go to, go to Ridgedale if you can.

998
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,000
I think that'll give you a good.

999
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,000
I know it's a long drive, but it's a beautiful space.

1000
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,000
It's absolutely beautiful.

1001
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000
And it's a ton of landscaping.

1002
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,000
So.

1003
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,000
It's going to.

1004
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,000
Is that a good space to watch dogs?

1005
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,000
What's that?

1006
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,000
I've got for a field trip with my dogs.

1007
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,000
You'd have to ask me to talk about that.

1008
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,000
I don't know.

1009
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Yeah.

1010
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,000
Yeah.

1011
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,000
Yeah.

1012
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,000
Yeah.

1013
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,000
That's something to go.

1014
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,000
Yeah.

1015
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Beautiful.

1016
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Great.

1017
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,000
To Kenny.

1018
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Okay.

1019
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,000
Any other thoughts?

1020
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,000
It's exciting to finally see an image.

1021
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,000
Yeah.

1022
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,000
It is, right?

1023
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Like it makes it a lot more real.

1024
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,000
Yeah.

1025
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,000
And then when we get renderings, it's going to be even more real.

1026
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,000
Like I want to go hang out.

1027
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,000
I'm excited.

1028
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Yeah.

1029
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,000
Yeah.

1030
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,000
Right.

1031
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,000
I'm excited for the potential.

1032
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,000
I will say Damon Farber has just been fantastic to work with both.

1033
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,000
At the site and the other site.

1034
01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000
So I think they bring a lot of creativity.

1035
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000
And just the process that they go through.

1036
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,000
I think is also really thoughtful.

1037
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,000
So we can go ahead and have a look.

1038
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,000
You should have seen them.

1039
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,000
They've been enthusiastic about the project as well.

1040
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,000
What's that?

1041
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,000
They've been enthusiastic every time I've seen them at events, talking to folks.

1042
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,000
They've been really engaged.

1043
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,000
Yeah.

1044
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,000
I feel like even in our staff meetings.

1045
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,000
But they're like, oh, we can't put this again.

1046
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,000
What do you think about it?

1047
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,000
They're fun.

1048
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,000
They're really fun.

1049
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Yeah.

1050
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,000
All right.

1051
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,000
Any other last minute that you always wouldn't know where to find me too,

1052
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,000
because you all think it's something the minute you leave here.

1053
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,000
So you know, you're calling if you need to.

1054
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,000
We need to vote on those at all before they go to the next separate,

1055
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,000
because Parks and Rec need to see them.

1056
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,000
And they're not finalized yet.

1057
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,000
I'm good with kind of the head nods on that first option.

1058
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,000
If you all are.

1059
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
First option is a lot of benefits.

1060
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,000
Yeah.

1061
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,000
And makes really good use of the space.

1062
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,000
Yeah.

1063
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,000
Just like from a square footage perspective.

1064
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,000
The idea that the drainage pond is sort of not accessible.

1065
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,000
Yeah.

1066
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Don't like it.

1067
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,000
Yeah.

1068
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Yeah.

1069
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,000
I agree.

1070
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,000
Yep.

1071
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
Um.

1072
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000
So just a couple of other updates.

1073
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,000
And I guess maybe you guys will talk about pride.

1074
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,000
So I'll skip that.

1075
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,000
Yeah.

1076
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,000
I didn't think I was going to be able to tell you this,

1077
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,000
because we haven't signed a contract.

1078
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,000
But on Monday, I saw in Fox 9,

1079
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,000
but it was announced that we received a tree grant from the Met Council.

1080
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,000
So.

1081
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,000
Yeah.

1082
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,000
Fox 9 can announce it.

1083
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,000
I'm going to announce it.

1084
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,000
Yeah.

1085
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,000
Hopefully not in the Met Council is like.

1086
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000
It's worth to say that.

1087
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,000
Um, but you know,

1088
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:43,000
we've been applying to a ton of different tree grants.

1089
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,000
It's so competitive.

1090
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Um, so there was a,

1091
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,000
a Met Council tree grant.

1092
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Um.

1093
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,000
We said, you know, we're going to go for it.

1094
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,000
We're going to ask for as much as we possibly can.

1095
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,000
Um.

1096
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,000
To spread the level a little bit.

1097
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,000
They brought our number down a little bit,

1098
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,000
but we're just under 300,000 for trees,

1099
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,000
which for context,

1100
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,000
our tree budget right now is 37,000 a year.

1101
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,000
So it's a huge process.

1102
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,000
No.

1103
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,000
Um.

1104
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,000
We've lost a lot of federal funding for trees.

1105
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,000
How much of this does that replace or is it different?

1106
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,000
Yeah.

1107
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
So we, we were a partner in a grant application.

1108
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,000
Um, that was going to be out.

1109
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,000
About 700 trees.

1110
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,000
We're not going to get in here near that.

1111
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,000
Unfortunately.

1112
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,000
Um, but.

1113
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,000
Uh, yeah.

1114
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,000
It'll be.

1115
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,000
I think I think we ended up at 250 planted trees.

1116
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,000
But we're also doing removals as well.

1117
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,000
So.

1118
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,000
Um.

1119
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,000
Is this including boulevard trees?

1120
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,000
Yeah.

1121
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,000
So it'll be all public trees.

1122
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,000
Yeah.

1123
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,000
Part trees and boulevard trees.

1124
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,000
Um.

1125
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Um.

1126
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,000
Not eligible on public land.

1127
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,000
And also it's.

1128
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,000
Uh.

1129
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,000
Or I'm probably land.

1130
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,000
And we.

1131
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,000
Uh.

1132
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,000
We plant.

1133
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,000
We have to.

1134
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,000
We're.

1135
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,000
Push towards certain census blocks.

1136
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000
So it's a really kind of an equity focused.

1137
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,000
All right.

1138
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
Each low income area is so.

1139
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,000
Cool.

1140
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,000
Um.

1141
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,000
So we can't plant.

1142
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,000
We can go a little bit outside of the borders for certain projects.

1143
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,000
But mostly focused on those.

1144
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,000
I can.

1145
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,000
I can share that map with you if you're interested.

1146
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,000
But.

1147
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,000
Um.

1148
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,000
Yeah.

1149
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:20,000
So that we don't have a contract yet.

1150
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,000
So.

1151
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,000
And that's plenty of money.

1152
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,000
You're getting into.

1153
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,000
I said that details.

1154
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,000
Um.

1155
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,000
But it's really exciting.

1156
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,000
And I think we're the second largest grant.

1157
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,000
In that cohort.

1158
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,000
Wow.

1159
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,000
Um.

1160
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,000
Good job.

1161
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Yeah.

1162
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,000
We're really excited.

1163
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,000
Yeah.

1164
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,000
Yeah.

1165
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,000
With that sort of this fall or with that.

1166
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,000
Be the spring.

1167
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,000
It.

1168
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,000
Yeah.

1169
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,000
I can actually start this fall.

1170
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,000
Once we get that contract.

1171
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,000
Where is it?

1172
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,000
You never know how on contract.

1173
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
And it's going to take.

1174
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:52,000
Um.

1175
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
Another kind of exciting thing.

1176
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
Is a high school.

1177
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,000
Senior reached out to me.

1178
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,000
About the possibility of a.

1179
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,000
A service project.

1180
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,000
Um.

1181
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,000
So we actually just met today.

1182
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,000
Um.

1183
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000
But he's looking to try and organize.

1184
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,000
Uh.

1185
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,000
Tree planting the community.

1186
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,000
Um.

1187
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,000
He's thinking about 10 trees.

1188
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,000
Um.

1189
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,000
But I met with him in his mom this morning.

1190
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,000
They're both fantastic.

1191
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,000
So if they're watching at home.

1192
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Hi guys.

1193
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,000
Hey John.

1194
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,000
Hi John.

1195
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,000
Um.

1196
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,000
So.

1197
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,000
Um.

1198
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,000
But he came in just said, you know, like, I do a lot of walks.

1199
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,000
And I was.

1200
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000
I know I had to do the service project.

1201
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,000
And, you know, just was noticing the places that were hotter.

1202
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,000
Yeah.

1203
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,000
And saying.

1204
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,000
We need a little bit more love in those places.

1205
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,000
So.

1206
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,000
Um.

1207
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,000
So we talked about some of the details and.

1208
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Um.

1209
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,000
Kind of through some ideas back to him.

1210
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,000
And he's going to think about how to kind of bring it back to us.

1211
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,000
So.

1212
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,000
Um.

1213
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,000
So he might be at a meeting in the future.

1214
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,000
To pass about it.

1215
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,000
Yeah.

1216
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:52,000
Okay.

1217
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,000
That's great.

1218
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,000
It's exciting.

1219
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,000
Um.

1220
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,000
The city hall pollinator project out on the hillside.

1221
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,000
Yeah.

1222
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,000
Um.

1223
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,000
It's.

1224
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Um.

1225
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,000
You know, these pollinator projects.

1226
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Sometimes they take sometimes they don't.

1227
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,000
Whether sometimes throws you.

1228
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Yeah.

1229
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Ecker.

1230
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,000
Um.

1231
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:16,000
There has been some establishment of some of the native and pollinator plants.

1232
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,000
It's not quite where we'd like it to be.

1233
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,000
But luckily we have additional resources with our project partner.

1234
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Um.

1235
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,000
So we're staying on top of it.

1236
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,000
Gonna.

1237
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,000
Till some of it on there.

1238
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,000
And do a receding.

1239
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,000
Um.

1240
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,000
Later in the summer.

1241
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,000
And then on the 13th of September we're going to plant some.

1242
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,000
Plugs of.

1243
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Uh.

1244
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,000
Uh.

1245
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
Plants to get those established a little bit sooner.

1246
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,000
So.

1247
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,000
Um.

1248
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Um.

1249
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,000
Saturday September 13th from 9 to noon here at City Hall.

1250
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,000
Uh, we have about 40 spots.

1251
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Um.

1252
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,000
Um.

1253
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,000
For volunteers.

1254
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,000
So.

1255
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,000
Hopefully seven of them are already taken.

1256
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,000
Um.

1257
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,000
So mark and calendar.

1258
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,000
That should be fun.

1259
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,000
It's under construction.

1260
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,000
Um.

1261
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,000
Go take a look from the street.

1262
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Um.

1263
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:08,000
Uh.

1264
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,000
Safety first.

1265
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Of course.

1266
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Um.

1267
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,000
But it's starting to come together and it's it's it's a pretty short.

1268
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Construction window.

1269
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,000
Fingers crossed.

1270
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,000
Of course.

1271
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,000
Um.

1272
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,000
But things are moving along which in fantastic.

1273
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,000
Um.

1274
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Of course the natural features are the last to be put in.

1275
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,000
Um, but it's.

1276
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,000
It's.

1277
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,000
It's going well.

1278
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,000
Um.

1279
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,000
Um, his last day is next week.

1280
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,000
Thursday.

1281
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,000
So thanks to him for all of his work.

1282
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,000
Um.

1283
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,000
Um.

1284
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,000
Of course we.

1285
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,000
Yeah.

1286
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,000
Yeah.

1287
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000
Hopefully he getting that tree inventory updated is huge for us.

1288
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,000
Um, and he's got a couple of other things that he's been kind of working on in the background.

1289
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Um, that.

1290
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,000
To the next bullet point.

1291
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,000
Um, our natural resources specialist.

1292
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,000
Once they come on board, we'll be able to take up a lot of this.

1293
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,000
And we'll be able to work that simply I just don't have a lot of capacity for.

1294
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,000
So, um, we are.

1295
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:19,000
We're reviewing for that position next week. We got a crazy amount of applications. I don't know if we have a track of the applications for positions, but when I talked to HR, he said, this is the most I've ever seen for positions.

1296
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:37,000
We had 217 applications for the floor. And there were a ton of really good applicants, which was fun to see, but also hard to see because so many people are looking for work in this field and a lot from around the country.

1297
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:55,000
So I'm really excited to meet our applicant pool because they'll see really great. So I don't know when that person will start exactly, you know, how it always goes, takes longer than you think.

1298
01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:05,000
So hopefully by the end of summer early fall, this person will be on board and we'll get them up to speed and eventually they'll be your staff liaison.

1299
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:21,000
But it's just exciting. I think here a lot of the word of momentum and it feels like we have momentum and it's fun to know that we've got this work from Noah to kind of get some of the

1300
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:33,000
to get the new natural resources person with kind of a slate of work and projects. And now we've got this met council tree grant that they're going to hold our run with on day one.

1301
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:39,000
So that's a cool stuff happening. Any questions for me?

1302
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:48,000
I had one. How do we sign up for the volunteer opportunity for the city hall pollinator project? And if we wanted to tell people about it, how do they sign up?

1303
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:57,000
I don't know yet. So we won't be coordinating that. Our partners. Great for our greenery will be coordinating that.

1304
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:02,000
I think he may all change about that. I'll figure out what I can figure out.

1305
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:07,000
Yeah, we're I'm sure they'll set up a sign up for.

1306
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,000
I'm just showing up.

1307
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,000
Any other questions?

1308
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Okay.

1309
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:23,000
All right. I don't want to talk about pride because that's coming up.

1310
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:32,000
That again is July 12th. People who've signed up should be getting reminders from the service that is is wrangling for that.

1311
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:38,000
I guess the only real concern is making sure we have the materials that we need for the tables.

1312
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,000
We've been handing out stuff from other organizations that's been going fairly well.

1313
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:49,000
But I want to make sure that we get our banner and our seed packets for the pride booth.

1314
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:58,000
Well, since I'm taking point on this, I will coordinate with Eric to make sure that we locate the things that we need to locate.

1315
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:03,000
And that always be in touch with you.

1316
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,000
Yeah.

1317
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:11,000
A good reminder to our banners are looking a little old and rough.

1318
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,000
All right.

1319
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,000
So they just kind of fade and then they get wet.

1320
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,000
They've been hooked to trucks.

1321
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,000
And we have new branding.

1322
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,000
So probably an opportunity to brand those.

1323
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,000
Yeah.

1324
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,000
I'll see if I can get those.

1325
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,000
Maybe for next.

1326
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,000
Yeah.

1327
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,000
I might be able to get them done in time.

1328
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,000
They don't take.

1329
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Yeah.

1330
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000
That'd be awesome.

1331
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:38,000
But yeah, it looks like our morning slots are all filled.

1332
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,000
We only have two people for the afternoon.

1333
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:47,000
So if there's anyone who'd like to sign up for the afternoon, there's still space.

1334
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:54,000
But if you also want to just shop to tear down, I think two people and if we have a floater.

1335
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,000
We'll be more than enough.

1336
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Yeah.

1337
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,000
And Julie, I'll totally take up your offer of stickers.

1338
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,000
So you can bring those.

1339
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,000
That'll be awesome.

1340
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,000
And I will coordinate with Eric to make sure that we have what we need.

1341
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,000
And I'll find all the environmental ones I've got.

1342
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,000
Okay.

1343
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,000
Perfect.

1344
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Animals are bugs are.

1345
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,000
Electrical.

1346
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:21,000
Well, let's all say a pair to the nature guys that we have.

1347
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,000
The last year.

1348
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,000
Nice weather.

1349
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,000
And not a deluge.

1350
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:32,000
And also, I know that what Saint Paul bread is looking for volunteers to help set up the day before.

1351
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,000
So if you are interested, please sign up for that.

1352
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:41,000
I think there are still looking for monetary contributions.

1353
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,000
I mean, that's something that they have.

1354
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,000
I think posted on their social.

1355
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,000
So by something that will be.

1356
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,000
If there's anything that they still need as well, but something on their socials.

1357
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,000
And I will say that I'm going to be there all day.

1358
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:55,000
So I'll be doing stuff in the morning for the booth.

1359
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,000
But then I'll be doing stuff for pride the rest of the day.

1360
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,000
So I know some of you have my phone number.

1361
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,000
If you're there for the afternoon, just text me and say,

1362
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,000
And you can help to break down.

1363
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,000
Because I'll be running around the whole day.

1364
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,000
All right.

1365
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,000
You're a sign up for the afternoon.

1366
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,000
Oh, hi.

1367
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,000
Okay.

1368
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,000
I'll be there all day.

1369
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,000
I'll be there all day.

1370
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,000
I'll be there all day as well.

1371
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,000
So anyhow.

1372
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,000
Thank you for people just signing up.

1373
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,000
It's going to be fun.

1374
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,000
Thank you for all the people.

1375
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,000
All the work you do for the same Paul days.

1376
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,000
And for Garlow.

1377
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,000
And did we ever do something for Mark Foller?

1378
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,000
Did we ever have a grand opening for that?

1379
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,000
Today.

1380
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,000
So the Thursday of Explore West and Paul days.

1381
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,000
Oh, okay.

1382
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,000
We did a grand opening.

1383
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,000
And it was really fun.

1384
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,000
I bet 25 Mark Foller showed up.

1385
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,000
So it was actually like a little mini family room.

1386
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,000
That was fun.

1387
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,000
I'm wonderful.

1388
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,000
And Joe did a very cool.

1389
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,000
I think tradition where people who attended the grand opening

1390
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,000
signed the ribbon that was cut.

1391
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,000
Yay.

1392
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,000
And then I think he said he took it to the historical society.

1393
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,000
So I thought that was really a really neat touch.

1394
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,000
Nice.

1395
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,000
Okay.

1396
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,000
Sounds like pride is reasonably sorted.

1397
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,000
I think pride's going to be great.

1398
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,000
All right.

1399
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,000
Yeah.

1400
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,000
Just a few updates.

1401
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,000
And then we are all done.

1402
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,000
How is our landscaping subcommittee coming along?

1403
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,000
Because everything going on the summer we haven't been able to meet again.

1404
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,000
So you're right.

1405
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:22,000
Now that we've seen these park things, I think we'll have a reinvigoration for that list.

1406
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,000
Okay.

1407
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,000
Great.

1408
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,000
Looking forward to hear more about that in the future.

1409
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,000
And then right back to Emily for an update from the Parks and Rec Committee.

1410
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,000
Yep.

1411
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,000
There was a not a traditional meeting.

1412
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:36,000
It was the May 13th meeting that I kept referencing about the meetings with the developers

1413
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,000
for some of these things.

1414
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,000
It was the Parks and Enza on the 13th.

1415
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,000
And I don't think that they met in June at all either.

1416
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,000
Because of, yeah, it was almost like Paul days.

1417
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:52,000
So it was just, it was a long couple hours of talking to people who were able to come about,

1418
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,000
different Parks and Parks going on.

1419
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:59,000
And had started to get some questions from Mark Down from Westfest.

1420
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:03,000
So it was really just a, I can, a broad open house that they had.

1421
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:04,000
All right.

1422
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,000
Not much from that.

1423
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,000
Cool.

1424
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Thank you very much.

1425
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,000
All right.

1426
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,000
And from the Planning Commission.

1427
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,000
Thank you.

1428
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,000
No.

1429
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:13,000
No news to report.

1430
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,000
All right.

1431
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,000
And we have no city council members.

1432
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,000
So no updates from them.

1433
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,000
Looking for motions to adjourn.

1434
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,000
So moved.

1435
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,000
And the second.

1436
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,000
All in favor.

1437
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,000
Bye.

1438
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,000
We are adjourned.

1439
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,000
Thank you all.

1440
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,000
Thank you.

1441
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,000
Open whenever.

1442
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,000
Thank you.