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we stand adjourned.

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m in high schoolers

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d like to call to

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order this meeting of the

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Ambergrove Heights Parks and

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Recreation Advisory Commission

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for Wednesday, SEPTEMBER 10th.

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Welcome everyone.

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We

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ll begin with, uh, roll call,

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if you

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re here, please, uh,

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indicate so if you

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re not,

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don

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t. So, um,

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Vicky Parker here. Kurt

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Stangler is not here. Um, Luisa

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Torres. Ok, Sandy Christiansen.

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Abby Heinrich is um ill. I have

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an excused, uh, Luke Johnson,

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you just made it. He

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s here

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Uh, Bill Skar and Tracy

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McCaughey McKahy is uh on a

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So that rounds out the group.

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Our first order tonight of

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business will be a presentation,

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uh, by Al Van der Hof, who is

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our recreation coordinator.

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s going to be talking about

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active older adult programming.

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Welcome, Al.

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Uh, good evening and thanks for

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having me today. Um, my name is

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Alanoff, as I said, uh, one of

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the recreation coordinators

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overseeing the active old adult,

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which we probably delivered in

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partnership with isd 19912d

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Education, um, kind of like to

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serve with fun facts, you know,

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over the past year, you know,

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more than 5000 people, you know,

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participated in our actual

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development programs connecting

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with new opportunities, forming

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friendships, and educational

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experiences, but if you ever

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stop to think about what

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one single class of social

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events, you know, how it can

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truly brighten someone

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s day or

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you

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re gonna change the way

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they approach the upcoming

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season. We kind of added this

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here on the fly today because

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Bridge today there

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s a lady

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that I could see forgot her

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keys or sitting on the table. I

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could see her in the parking

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lot searching through her purse

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trying to find your keys. I can

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see a Chevy car. I ran out

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there and gave her keys. She

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thanked me, but then there was

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this older gentleman that he

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been coming to bridge quite a

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bit and he

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s very competitive,

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um, I think years and years ago

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I heard rumors he

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s been kicked

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out of several other places

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because his competitive nature

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and other places that they play

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bridge. We

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ve kind of got them

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calmed down, but as I was

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coming back in, he catches me.

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s like, hey, I had this hand

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because he

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s had really bad

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weeks here lately, and had this

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hand, he goes, it was pass,

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pass, pass, pass, comes to me

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and goes, I had to do clubs. He

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goes, and luckily enough, my

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partner matched what I had. I

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had a really great day, and he

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goes out the door just to

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smiling away, and it just kind

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of one of those things that he

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makes you think, you know, yeah,

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what we

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impact, and it

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s great to see

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that, you know, even though he

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probably struggled 5 or so

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years ago when he first started

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playing bridge there. So, um,

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with that being said, kind of

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segue into kind of

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our season, if you will, that

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starting, uh, this fall with uh

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kind of our active aging week

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that we do every year. It

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kind of a national act of Aging

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week that this year

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s OCTOBER

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6th through 10th. Um, new,

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ve kind of been doing

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different themes every year

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around that week, so we

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doing slowdown and Shine,

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Mindful living is kind of the

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theme for this year. So we

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offering is a craft project, uh,

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with a sponsored by Elina Etna.

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s been doing that for a

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couple of years with us. Um,

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Landmark Tours, they highlight,

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um, what they have

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to offer both nationally and

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internationally. They do great

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trips with, uh, you know, the

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bell, all the bells and

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whistles and have a chaperone

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that goes with them and

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pretty much top-notch travel

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experience with them. Uh, we

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doing wisdom and wellness uh

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with a sound bath experience

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calming, restorative sound bath

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throughout relaxation and

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mental clarity, uh, Wednesday,

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we kind of set aside for our

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fitness programs, so mindful

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movement, uh, is what we

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called that. So all of our

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fitness classes are kind of

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being highlighted on that

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Wednesday, uh, Thursday we

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doing what

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s called Moments

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That Matter, and this is kind

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of something new that I

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excited about. Hopefully we get

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off the ground here this winter.

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s dementia friendly

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activities and caregiver

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support. So we

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ve got a panel

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with um Colleen Fritz, who

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actually is an ex-Invergrove

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resident. She grew up here back

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in the day, and she

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s excited

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to hopefully get this up and

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going. She

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s from Dementia

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Friends, um, our partners of

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DArts. Um

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and then we also have someone

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from Serenity Home Care that

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outside of doing things with

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older adults with home care,

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personally affects her because

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her husband has dementia. So

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re working to create some

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dementia-friendly activities

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this winter and spring. Also at

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the same time having some

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caregiver support that DARTs

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can kind of help out with that

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as well. So we

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information about that on that

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Thursday and then we

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end the week with some uh bingo

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celebration. Um

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outside of that, just kind of

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highlighting some enrichment in

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art and education classes. We

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try to mix it up all throughout

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the year. I don

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t like to

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continue having the same thing,

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so we like to kind of mix it up

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every year and offer different

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um educational classes

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throughout the year. So

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highlighting some of the ones

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ve done over the last year

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is, uh, making the most of like

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Medicare plan and how to

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navigate through that, um, who

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will inherit the mess, um, just

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kind of how you can do

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practical estate planning, um,

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on the road to safer driving.

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collaboration with Dakota

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County Library. It was kind of

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fun, took part of their uh

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anniversary celebration earlier

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this spring, and we kind of

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highlighted some of those

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things that we did with them.

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We did, uh, how to use library

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apps, engage with them with uh

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some creativity, with a mosaic

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art project and also a paper

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bag luminaries. Um

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line dancing continues to be

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very popular. So what we

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done new with that is we

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kind of the same core group of

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people, but we

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there and we

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re getting new

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people, so we

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ve split up and

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added an advanced beginner and

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now having a beginner class

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because we

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re kind of growing

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that program as well. So and

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now, excuse me, what is that

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lined line dancing? Oh, a line

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dancing. Ok, but you see people

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do that, yeah, wedding dances

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and whatnot. So, um

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then health and wellness

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sessions, you know, receiving,

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uh, we did a hearing assessment,

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uh, keep losing my keys was

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another one just kind of

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knowing the difference between

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s normal, memory loss, and

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what actually is signs of maybe

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dementia and Alzheimer

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and that just kind of

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highlights some of the

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enrichment classes we

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over the year. Um

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another big thing we do

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annually is our healthy living

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fair. That

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s always the 3rd

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Wednesday of APRIL, uh, which

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was APRIL 16th this last year,

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or currently this year

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s 2025,

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but um we had 37 vendors, which

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is 5 more than we had last year.

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We estimated about 170

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participants that came through

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there. Um, in addition to the

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vendor faire, we also do

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breakout sessions in the

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community rooms and we kind of

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strategically staggered them a

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little bit better this year to

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where they don

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t overlap and

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run congruently, so someone

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could actually go to all of the

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sessions, but uh

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highlight some of those that we

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had some great attendance at

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this year was, uh, just gut

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health, hormone balance, uh,

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meditation and sound healing,

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um, healthy eating, we did

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internally with one of our

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fitness staff, um, another one

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that

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s always really popular

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that we love having is

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gardening tips with Marsha.

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She

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s a actually a local um

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master gardener who also has

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been a longtime render out at

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our community gardens at Salem

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Hills, so she does a fabulous

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job. It

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s always very popular,

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and then, uh, neuropathy

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awareness, um, we had that day.

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Um.

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And that

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s also a wonderful

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collaboration that myself and

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then the fitness team worked to

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put together. So, um, our

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senior club, there

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s still

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holding on. They

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ve got 100

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members and probably close to

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20 of them are over 90 years

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old, which is pretty phenomenal.

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Um, they continue to do their

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monthly luncheons. They average

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about 48 to 50 people. Um,

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highest participation is

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usually the summer months, but,

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um, this last year was DECEMBER

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holiday luncheon. Um

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they continue to have interest

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with sponsors that come in just

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a table there and just give

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them information and some of

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them are on the outside of just

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providing them information to

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kind of take it and run with it

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and um uh decided to help mc

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the bingo when they do that,

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and they

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ve stayed to help

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serve um when there there was

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lunches and helped clean up and

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whatnot. And a couple of them

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actually just donated, um, and

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provided a dessert for them as

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well. So that

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s uh been working

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out very well. Um, actually one

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of the, uh

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people that helped out with the

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uh bingo calling. We had a

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couple of the school board

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members that came and really

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wasn

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t to call it bingo for

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them too, which they thought

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was pretty cool. Um

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another thing we

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ve done with

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them is doing some off-site

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luncheons that we started last

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year over at um the new fire

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hall, which we

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tried to carry out again this

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year and highlight and showcase

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our new South Valley shelter,

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but unfortunately the weather

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didn

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t cooperate. It was a

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rainy day and we had, she had

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Adam, our grill master. Brian

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couldn

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t make it. He

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s on

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vacation, but we had, uh, Joe

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that helped grill out, and we

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still made the best of it and

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they kind of highlighted and

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showcased some of the stuff

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that, uh, we

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ve got new with

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the park systems and some of

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that stuff that

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s going on in

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our parks department. So, um,

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unfortunately, we couldn

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t

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showcase South Valley and

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hopefully we

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ll maybe try to do

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that again next summer. But, uh,

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they

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really do like kind of doing

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something a little bit

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different outside of their norm.

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Um, they also kind of help with

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the uh card games, the weekly

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card games and being there to

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kind of host and get set up and

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make coffee and stuff like that.

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So those continue to go 5 days

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a week. Um, one of our newer

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ones, um, hand and foot, that

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s

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on Fridays, that

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s actually the

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one most of the tenants has

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stayed pretty normal, but that

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one actually has grown over

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this last year, so it

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s kind of

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fun to see that one doing well,

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one of our newer card games

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that we

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ve offered. So

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kind of tie back to some of the

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interdepartmental things we do.

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I always like to try to help or

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have some of the other

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departments work with us, so we

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did coffee with a cop this fall.

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Um, and then moving forward

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this winter, uh, actually had a

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realtor reach out to me that

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wants to do a series of

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educational things, but one of

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the things she

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s gonna work

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with is a police department

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again in doing um scams. I

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don

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t think you can offer that

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enough because it

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s ever

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00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:05,508
changing and they

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re always

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trying to unfortunately take

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care of, take advantage of our

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seniors and older adults, um.

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Also the fire department always

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comes the first luncheon in

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JANUARY to the senior club and

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kind of talks to them about um

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being safe in your home, fire

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safety, things like that, and

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just kind of more of a casual,

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um, safety type message that

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they like to give and annually

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do that in their JANUARY

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luncheon. Um

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talked to Mark and our it

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department over summer um

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picnic and I hoping to convince

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him to do again another little

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it session and kind of helping

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seniors with uh being

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comfortable with iPads and

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smartphones and technology and

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whatnot, so, um, hoping to

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maybe get that either this

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spring or maybe this summer

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again because it

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s been a few

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years since we offered that. So,

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um

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some new programs, uh, Fallfest

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was last year, the first time

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we offered it. We had great

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success with that, so we

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re

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excited to be offering that

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again this year, and that

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s a

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collaborative with Saint Paul

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Farmers

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Market. It

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00:11:06,469 --> 00:11:07,804
s out there

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every Sunday throughout the

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spring, summer, fall, if you

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will to the end of OCTOBER and

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then also with uh the school

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district um that collaborates

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on that so great community

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event promised me a wonderful

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day for residents to have some

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fall fun. Um, isd 2199

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partnership, um, as I mentioned

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with that we added with

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the um senior club lunch in the

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high school choir came and sang

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at their

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DECEMBER luncheon, and it was

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fabulous. They had a great time

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and uh unanimously voted to

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have them come back, so we

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re

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excited to have them come back

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again this, this DECEMBER. Um

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also have a new director with

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the community education

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department, Chad, um, and when

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I met with him when we first

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started, we kind of

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brainstormed a little bit, some

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new ideas and different things

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we might try, but until he gets

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his feet wet, till the school

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s

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year starts, gets up and going,

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we

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re probably looking to do

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some things late spring or

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summer, um, kind of based on

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what we

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ve loosely brainstormed

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00:12:06,396 --> 00:12:07,970
when I first initially met him.

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Um.

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With the line dancing, that

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instructor also approached me

534
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about wanting to do kind of a

535
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larger event to kind of promote

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line dancing, so we

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ll be

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looking to do that here, um,

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later this fall. She kind of

540
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helped out with someone, a

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friend of hers that did a large

542
00:12:21,744 --> 00:12:22,712
event like that down at uh

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00:12:22,712 --> 00:12:23,947
Harriet Island somewhere down

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in Saint Paul. It was like a

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huge event. I think we

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ve done

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something similar, like fitness

548
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with like a big Zumba class

549
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like that in the gym, so she

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s

551
00:12:31,554 --> 00:12:32,889
wanting to do something to that

552
00:12:32,889 --> 00:12:34,424
extent to uh to kind of help

553
00:12:34,424 --> 00:12:36,920
promote our line dancing. Um,

554
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,127
pick the ball, we added a

555
00:12:37,127 --> 00:12:38,662
ladder league this year. So

556
00:12:38,662 --> 00:12:39,629
unlike just pairing up with

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doubles, and that

558
00:12:40,290 --> 00:12:41,831
s pretty

559
00:12:41,831 --> 00:12:43,433
standard now with Pickleball

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00:12:43,433 --> 00:12:43,600
where you go off of points,

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00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,201
it

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00:12:45,201 --> 00:12:47,604
s not wins and losses. So

563
00:12:47,604 --> 00:12:49,720
kind of the point is where you

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basically are playing the same

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00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,108
level of people every week, and

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you kind of move up and down

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the standings or the ladder, if

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you will, based on how many

569
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points. So you could actually

570
00:12:57,814 --> 00:12:57,981
have a losing record, but if

571
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you

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00:12:58,848 --> 00:13:00,784
re two losses, you know,

573
00:13:00,784 --> 00:13:02,285
you got 14 out of the 15 points,

574
00:13:02,285 --> 00:13:05,455
while you still got quite a few

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00:13:05,455 --> 00:13:05,588
points. So the win loss doesn

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00:13:05,588 --> 00:13:06,990
t

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00:13:06,990 --> 00:13:08,491
always really correlate to how

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00:13:08,491 --> 00:13:12,280
good you are in the standing.

579
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So that went fabulous and they

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00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:14,898
bugged me to open up another

581
00:13:14,898 --> 00:13:15,310
one to do in the fall. So we

582
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re

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00:13:15,699 --> 00:13:17,501
gonna take advantage of the

584
00:13:17,501 --> 00:13:20,360
lights over at Skyview Park and

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00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:20,470
have just a small little quick

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00:13:20,470 --> 00:13:21,304
folly that we

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00:13:21,304 --> 00:13:22,339
re gonna do over

588
00:13:22,339 --> 00:13:23,273
at Skyview. So they

589
00:13:23,273 --> 00:13:24,741
re already

590
00:13:24,741 --> 00:13:26,576
clamoring to get registered for

591
00:13:26,576 --> 00:13:28,178
that. Um

592
00:13:28,178 --> 00:13:29,613
also with that, with the pickle

593
00:13:29,613 --> 00:13:31,140
ball that continues to be very

594
00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:32,515
popular or open and drop in

595
00:13:32,515 --> 00:13:33,717
that we do in the winter, uh,

596
00:13:33,717 --> 00:13:35,510
spring over at the community

597
00:13:35,510 --> 00:13:37,754
center, and then our bronze

598
00:13:37,754 --> 00:13:38,822
league that we kept the same

599
00:13:38,822 --> 00:13:40,857
actually increased from 12 to

600
00:13:40,857 --> 00:13:42,559
16 teams a year. So that

601
00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,940
continues to be very, very

602
00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:46,463
popular. Um, so in addition to

603
00:13:46,463 --> 00:13:48,640
that, kind of some other

604
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,167
programs just to highlight, um,

605
00:13:50,167 --> 00:13:51,735
before I end here, um

606
00:13:51,735 --> 00:13:53,700
our tis Thompson Park, Inver

607
00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:54,638
Grove, South Saint Paul, day

608
00:13:54,638 --> 00:13:56,106
trips continue to be very

609
00:13:56,106 --> 00:13:58,410
popular, including the

610
00:13:58,410 --> 00:13:58,942
overnight extended day ones, um,

611
00:13:58,942 --> 00:13:59,943
when I kind of want to

612
00:13:59,943 --> 00:14:01,511
highlight, it was kind of cool.

613
00:14:01,511 --> 00:14:02,813
We had a mobster trip down to

614
00:14:02,813 --> 00:14:05,115
Minneapolis to kind of talk

615
00:14:05,115 --> 00:14:07,500
about the old prohibition days

616
00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:08,418
and the lady dressed up in

617
00:14:08,418 --> 00:14:10,530
prohibition era garb, and she

618
00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:11,521
narrated the whole thing and we

619
00:14:11,521 --> 00:14:13,490
ironically had a participant

620
00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:15,250
that was an author that had

621
00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:16,993
like relatives or ties kind of

622
00:14:16,993 --> 00:14:18,610
to that era and kind of helped

623
00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:19,296
with the narration the whole

624
00:14:19,296 --> 00:14:20,197
thing and there were just some

625
00:14:20,197 --> 00:14:21,698
great, great discuss

626
00:14:21,698 --> 00:14:23,667
ion and uh everybody just had a

627
00:14:23,667 --> 00:14:25,102
blast with that whole trip, but

628
00:14:25,102 --> 00:14:26,570
uh they are still, you know,

629
00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:28,906
very popular, um, sleeping mats

630
00:14:28,906 --> 00:14:31,174
for the homeless every other

631
00:14:31,174 --> 00:14:32,809
Tuesday they make the uh

632
00:14:32,809 --> 00:14:33,310
sleeping mats for them and it

633
00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:35,112
s

634
00:14:35,112 --> 00:14:35,245
been over 400 mats that they

635
00:14:35,245 --> 00:14:36,513
ve

636
00:14:36,513 --> 00:14:37,714
made and they get about 40

637
00:14:37,714 --> 00:14:39,149
people that come every other

638
00:14:39,149 --> 00:14:40,517
Tuesday, which is great. Driver

639
00:14:40,517 --> 00:14:41,585
safety class again, they kind

640
00:14:41,585 --> 00:14:42,486
of revamped and changed how

641
00:14:42,486 --> 00:14:43,954
they do things and their

642
00:14:43,954 --> 00:14:44,354
numbers have been pretty good.

643
00:14:44,354 --> 00:14:45,489
Um, and you don

644
00:14:45,489 --> 00:14:46,757
t have to do

645
00:14:46,757 --> 00:14:47,724
the initial eight-hour class,

646
00:14:47,724 --> 00:14:49,259
so they like just having to

647
00:14:49,259 --> 00:14:50,627
only do 4 hours to get their

648
00:14:50,627 --> 00:14:52,229
10% discount. So

649
00:14:52,229 --> 00:14:53,397
those classes are also doing

650
00:14:53,397 --> 00:14:54,398
very well, and then we have the

651
00:14:54,398 --> 00:14:54,998
Happy Feet Footcare that

652
00:14:54,998 --> 00:14:56,998
s

653
00:14:57,367 --> 00:15:00,771
their twice a month as well. So,

654
00:15:00,771 --> 00:15:01,905
book clubs too continue to have

655
00:15:01,905 --> 00:15:03,507
uh decent attendance and what

656
00:15:03,507 --> 00:15:04,575
was kind of cool last just this

657
00:15:04,575 --> 00:15:05,675
last Tuesday, a couple of days

658
00:15:05,675 --> 00:15:06,944
ago, I actually had to steel

659
00:15:06,944 --> 00:15:07,745
bunch of chairs from the

660
00:15:07,745 --> 00:15:10,681
community room too and the

661
00:15:10,681 --> 00:15:12,382
legion room because they had a

662
00:15:12,382 --> 00:15:13,216
huge crowd and I throw in

663
00:15:13,216 --> 00:15:13,383
another table in there so it

664
00:15:13,383 --> 00:15:14,218
s

665
00:15:14,218 --> 00:15:15,719
kind of cool to see that

666
00:15:15,719 --> 00:15:16,854
fiction book club growing and

667
00:15:16,854 --> 00:15:18,522
having to throw in some more

668
00:15:18,522 --> 00:15:20,190
chairs into the Legion room for

669
00:15:20,190 --> 00:15:21,291
them, for their club to meet,

670
00:15:21,291 --> 00:15:22,559
so kind of talked a little bit

671
00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:24,628
too about maybe trying to open

672
00:15:24,628 --> 00:15:26,230
it up instead of just 55 plus

673
00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:26,797
maybe making it just for adults

674
00:15:26,797 --> 00:15:27,331
because I know there

675
00:15:27,331 --> 00:15:28,298
s, you

676
00:15:28,298 --> 00:15:30,267
know,

677
00:15:30,267 --> 00:15:31,602
19 to 50 somethings that also

678
00:15:31,602 --> 00:15:32,169
like reading and being in those

679
00:15:32,169 --> 00:15:32,836
book clubs. I don

680
00:15:32,836 --> 00:15:34,400
t know if the

681
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,706
daytime will prevent them from

682
00:15:36,706 --> 00:15:38,309
that, but we might look at

683
00:15:38,309 --> 00:15:39,243
opening up the ages for that as

684
00:15:39,243 --> 00:15:40,677
well. So,

685
00:15:40,677 --> 00:15:41,211
you know, I kind of threw a lot

686
00:15:41,211 --> 00:15:42,579
out there. Uh it

687
00:15:42,579 --> 00:15:43,847
s kind of a

688
00:15:43,847 --> 00:15:44,114
quick snapshot of some of the

689
00:15:44,114 --> 00:15:44,715
things we

690
00:15:44,715 --> 00:15:45,349
ve been up to at the

691
00:15:45,349 --> 00:15:46,450
senior center. I

692
00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:47,751
d be happy to

693
00:15:47,751 --> 00:15:49,353
answer any questions that you

694
00:15:49,353 --> 00:15:51,353
would have.

695
00:15:51,822 --> 00:15:53,757
Are there any opportunities for

696
00:15:53,757 --> 00:15:55,250
teens or middle school students

697
00:15:55,250 --> 00:15:56,694
to interact with the senior

698
00:15:56,694 --> 00:15:58,395
community in terms of, you know,

699
00:15:58,395 --> 00:15:59,463
over weekends or volunteer

700
00:15:59,463 --> 00:15:59,663
opportunities.

701
00:15:59,663 --> 00:16:00,798
That

702
00:16:00,798 --> 00:16:02,533
s actually one of the

703
00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:03,767
things that Chad and I kind of

704
00:16:03,767 --> 00:16:05,602
briefly touched on was wanting

705
00:16:05,602 --> 00:16:06,904
to do kind of some more of that

706
00:16:06,904 --> 00:16:08,405
intergenerational stuff and how

707
00:16:08,405 --> 00:16:09,506
we can make some of that work,

708
00:16:09,506 --> 00:16:11,375
but we did kind of briefly

709
00:16:11,375 --> 00:16:12,743
touch on that, but again, our

710
00:16:12,743 --> 00:16:13,777
initial discussion, it was just

711
00:16:13,777 --> 00:16:15,146
kind of brief, you know, he had

712
00:16:15,146 --> 00:16:15,680
just got started and we just

713
00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,247
kind of we

714
00:16:16,247 --> 00:16:16,580
re brainstorming and

715
00:16:16,580 --> 00:16:17,815
it

716
00:16:17,815 --> 00:16:20,584
s kind of an introductory

717
00:16:20,584 --> 00:16:22,453
meeting, but lots of school, uh,

718
00:16:22,453 --> 00:16:22,620
year starts to get on its feet,

719
00:16:22,620 --> 00:16:24,620
we

720
00:16:24,855 --> 00:16:26,900
ll get into some more

721
00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:26,924
discussions about newer

722
00:16:26,924 --> 00:16:27,424
programming and things like

723
00:16:27,424 --> 00:16:28,225
that, so that

724
00:16:28,225 --> 00:16:28,959
s a great idea.

725
00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:30,527
Yeah, good question.

726
00:16:30,527 --> 00:16:30,694
Mhm.

727
00:16:30,694 --> 00:16:32,694
You

728
00:16:33,564 --> 00:16:34,640
ve got a lot going on, Al.

729
00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:34,631
Bravo, that

730
00:16:34,631 --> 00:16:35,900
s a lot just

731
00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:36,660
cheering it all, you know. I

732
00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:37,835
don

733
00:16:37,835 --> 00:16:38,802
t know how you keep it all

734
00:16:38,802 --> 00:16:40,938
going. Would you say that you

735
00:16:40,938 --> 00:16:42,740
have kind of a core group that

736
00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:43,841
that kind of does a lot of the,

737
00:16:43,841 --> 00:16:46,760
the different activity or you

738
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:47,711
have you pull in a lot of

739
00:16:47,711 --> 00:16:50,111
different people depending on,

740
00:16:50,481 --> 00:16:52,416
I would say a core you see

741
00:16:52,416 --> 00:16:55,319
regularly, but, um, to that

742
00:16:55,319 --> 00:16:57,788
point, like a bridge two weeks

743
00:16:57,788 --> 00:16:59,256
ago, um, it was bursting at the

744
00:16:59,256 --> 00:17:00,291
seams and the new people I saw,

745
00:17:00,291 --> 00:17:01,580
I mean, Bridge is probably by

746
00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:03,580
far our

747
00:17:03,527 --> 00:17:04,929
most attended card game, but

748
00:17:04,929 --> 00:17:05,830
what I saw was interesting was

749
00:17:05,830 --> 00:17:07,980
that people were bringing

750
00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:09,300
friends, but I also saw a

751
00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,402
handful of people, I think it

752
00:17:11,402 --> 00:17:12,636
was a tableworth of people that

753
00:17:12,636 --> 00:17:14,138
I normally see that come on

754
00:17:14,138 --> 00:17:15,306
those every other Tuesdays for

755
00:17:15,306 --> 00:17:15,873
the mapmaking group. So you,

756
00:17:15,873 --> 00:17:16,340
you know, they

757
00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:17,208
re seeing it or

758
00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,760
talking to friends or see

759
00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,770
friends, and I saw some people

760
00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:22,130
that are coming there for

761
00:17:22,130 --> 00:17:24,315
something else that are now

762
00:17:24,315 --> 00:17:24,882
coming for bridge. So by and

763
00:17:24,882 --> 00:17:26,150
large, it

764
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:27,184
s quite a few of the

765
00:17:27,184 --> 00:17:28,552
same people that are doing a

766
00:17:28,552 --> 00:17:29,860
lot of the same things, but,

767
00:17:29,860 --> 00:17:29,520
you know, there

768
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,721
s certain ones

769
00:17:30,721 --> 00:17:31,220
that are only there on one day

770
00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:31,589
a week

771
00:17:31,589 --> 00:17:32,890
and there

772
00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:34,489
s others that are

773
00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:36,394
there 3 to 5 days a week, so.

774
00:17:36,394 --> 00:17:38,362
In a good mix, are there, um,

775
00:17:38,362 --> 00:17:39,997
excuse me, are there ways that

776
00:17:39,997 --> 00:17:41,332
things are publicized, the, the

777
00:17:41,332 --> 00:17:41,599
group, the things that you

778
00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:43,599
re

779
00:17:44,135 --> 00:17:46,938
doing other than through the

780
00:17:46,938 --> 00:17:49,407
publication here as there is in

781
00:17:49,407 --> 00:17:50,808
the outside advertising or yes,

782
00:17:50,808 --> 00:17:52,143
we also advertised to the

783
00:17:52,143 --> 00:17:52,376
Tri-district brochure. It

784
00:17:52,376 --> 00:17:53,477
s a

785
00:17:53,477 --> 00:17:54,579
tri-district collaborative with

786
00:17:54,579 --> 00:17:56,180
Invergrove, South Saint Paul

787
00:17:56,180 --> 00:17:58,216
and West Saint Paul. So it gets

788
00:17:58,216 --> 00:18:00,510
out to all three of those

789
00:18:00,510 --> 00:18:01,519
communities. Tho those

790
00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:02,453
brochures pretty much coincide

791
00:18:02,453 --> 00:18:03,540
with when ours come out. It

792
00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:03,888
s a

793
00:18:03,888 --> 00:18:04,956
little bit different, about a

794
00:18:04,956 --> 00:18:05,589
week or so apart, but

795
00:18:05,589 --> 00:18:07,391
for the most part their

796
00:18:07,391 --> 00:18:10,391
brochures come out the same

797
00:18:10,661 --> 00:18:12,296
time that ours do. So great.

798
00:18:12,296 --> 00:18:14,310
Other questions? So the

799
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:17,310
sleeping mats are those from

800
00:18:17,368 --> 00:18:20,968
the plastic bags? Do you ever

801
00:18:21,205 --> 00:18:23,605
need plastic bags because

802
00:18:23,975 --> 00:18:24,208
I, I hesitantly say yes because

803
00:18:24,208 --> 00:18:25,910
I don

804
00:18:25,910 --> 00:18:27,245
t want to

805
00:18:27,245 --> 00:18:29,580
resoundingly say yes and have

806
00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:31,883
my office full of them as

807
00:18:31,883 --> 00:18:34,283
people continually drop them

808
00:18:34,652 --> 00:18:37,355
off. So, uh, yes, they will

809
00:18:37,355 --> 00:18:38,823
accept bags, but um

810
00:18:38,823 --> 00:18:40,425
they certainly have enough just

811
00:18:40,425 --> 00:18:41,793
by word of mouth than

812
00:18:41,793 --> 00:18:44,696
advertising. But if you want to

813
00:18:44,696 --> 00:18:44,829
slip some over in my office,

814
00:18:44,829 --> 00:18:46,297
I

815
00:18:46,297 --> 00:18:47,432
ll gladly give them to them

816
00:18:47,432 --> 00:18:49,832
on Tuesdays, every other

817
00:18:50,702 --> 00:18:52,203
Tuesday, but

818
00:18:52,203 --> 00:18:52,804
other questions? No, I

819
00:18:52,804 --> 00:18:53,738
appreciate all you

820
00:18:53,738 --> 00:18:55,207
re doing. I

821
00:18:55,207 --> 00:18:56,541
feel like, you know, that

822
00:18:56,541 --> 00:18:58,309
s a

823
00:18:58,309 --> 00:19:00,178
community that definitely needs

824
00:19:00,178 --> 00:19:01,746
attention and we should all be

825
00:19:01,746 --> 00:19:03,414
caring for and

826
00:19:03,414 --> 00:19:05,160
utilizing for sure, so thank

827
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,160
you.

828
00:19:07,985 --> 00:19:09,187
Thank you. Thank you and good

829
00:19:09,187 --> 00:19:12,187
luck with the programming move

830
00:19:13,358 --> 00:19:15,758
forward thank you very

831
00:19:15,993 --> 00:19:18,393
All right, moving into

832
00:19:18,730 --> 00:19:19,230
announcements, uh, we have the

833
00:19:19,230 --> 00:19:21,230
annual commissioner

834
00:19:21,633 --> 00:19:23,401
appreciation dinner coming up

835
00:19:23,401 --> 00:19:24,536
Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 23rd, so be

836
00:19:24,536 --> 00:19:27,539
sure to mark that on your

837
00:19:27,539 --> 00:19:29,240
calendar. The council really

838
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,909
appreciates being able to

839
00:19:30,909 --> 00:19:31,509
recognize those of us that have

840
00:19:31,509 --> 00:19:33,144
uh

841
00:19:33,144 --> 00:19:35,413
uh, volunteered to be on these

842
00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:37,215
commissions and, and be sure an

843
00:19:37,215 --> 00:19:37,949
rsvp, um, and I

844
00:19:37,949 --> 00:19:38,820
m, I haven

845
00:19:38,820 --> 00:19:39,217
t

846
00:19:39,217 --> 00:19:41,860
done it yet myself, but I

847
00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:42,520
noticed the car asks for that,

848
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:42,821
so be sure and do that so they

849
00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:43,555
knows you

850
00:19:43,555 --> 00:19:44,122
re coming. It

851
00:19:44,122 --> 00:19:46,122
ll be a

852
00:19:47,559 --> 00:19:50,559
South Valley, um, Park shelter

853
00:19:51,162 --> 00:19:52,597
from 5 to 8 P.M. On the 23rd.

854
00:19:52,597 --> 00:19:54,997
OCTOBER meeting will be

855
00:19:56,568 --> 00:19:57,735
Wednesday the 8th at 7 P.M.

856
00:19:57,735 --> 00:19:59,400
And NOVEMBER we

857
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,390
re gonna have a

858
00:20:01,390 --> 00:20:04,800
work session on Wednesday the

859
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,877
12th at 5 P.M. And sort of a

860
00:20:05,877 --> 00:20:06,745
surprise agenda at this point.

861
00:20:06,745 --> 00:20:07,779
Um, did you want to say

862
00:20:07,779 --> 00:20:08,279
anything more about that, Adam?

863
00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:08,613
No, it

864
00:20:08,613 --> 00:20:09,130
ll be in the

865
00:20:09,130 --> 00:20:10,148
presentation. It

866
00:20:10,148 --> 00:20:12,548
ll be key, ok.

867
00:20:12,884 --> 00:20:14,886
He come out great.

868
00:20:14,886 --> 00:20:17,288
All right, so the next item is

869
00:20:17,288 --> 00:20:18,290
the consent agenda. Um, all

870
00:20:18,290 --> 00:20:20,358
items are considered routine,

871
00:20:20,358 --> 00:20:22,594
have been made available to all

872
00:20:22,594 --> 00:20:24,950
of us. At least 2 days prior to

873
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:26,310
the meeting. Items will be

874
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:26,230
enacted then in one motion.

875
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:28,230
There

876
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,434
s 2 items, um, no

877
00:20:29,434 --> 00:20:31,302
separate discussion unless

878
00:20:31,302 --> 00:20:32,971
commission member or citizens

879
00:20:32,971 --> 00:20:34,720
so requests, in which event the

880
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,574
animal will be removed from the

881
00:20:35,574 --> 00:20:36,808
agenda and considered a normal

882
00:20:36,808 --> 00:20:38,376
sequence. So the two items to

883
00:20:38,376 --> 00:20:38,677
the approval of tonight

884
00:20:38,677 --> 00:20:40,677
s

885
00:20:41,813 --> 00:20:44,149
agenda and the approval of the

886
00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:45,830
minutes from AUGUST 13th.

887
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:45,817
Meeting. So I

888
00:20:45,817 --> 00:20:47,719
d entertain a

889
00:20:47,719 --> 00:20:49,721
motion to accept those two

890
00:20:49,721 --> 00:20:51,721
items. So moved.

891
00:20:53,592 --> 00:20:55,827
2, 2nd, Sandy. All right, moved

892
00:20:55,827 --> 00:20:57,295
and seconded to uh accept the

893
00:20:57,295 --> 00:20:58,830
two items on the consent agenda,

894
00:20:58,830 --> 00:21:01,466
all in favor, signed by saying

895
00:21:01,466 --> 00:21:03,768
aye, aye, and he opposed, ok,

896
00:21:03,768 --> 00:21:04,836
that passes. Now we come to

897
00:21:04,836 --> 00:21:05,804
public comment. We have a

898
00:21:05,804 --> 00:21:05,937
couple of visitors here, don

899
00:21:05,937 --> 00:21:06,671
t

900
00:21:06,671 --> 00:21:07,172
know if you

901
00:21:07,172 --> 00:21:08,907
re going to be a

902
00:21:08,907 --> 00:21:10,575
part of this, but we provide an

903
00:21:10,575 --> 00:21:12,144
opportunity for the public to

904
00:21:12,144 --> 00:21:13,478
address the commission. Is not

905
00:21:13,478 --> 00:21:14,446
on the agenda. Generally limit

906
00:21:14,446 --> 00:21:15,800
to 3 minutes, so we

907
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800
re a little

908
00:21:17,549 --> 00:21:18,517
bit loose on that. So welcome.

909
00:21:18,517 --> 00:21:20,152
Would you introduce yourself,

910
00:21:20,152 --> 00:21:22,152
please. Um,

911
00:21:24,556 --> 00:21:26,956
your address, Bob Murray, 6852

912
00:21:28,226 --> 00:21:29,428
Bovie Trail. Adam Erdman, 6881

913
00:21:29,428 --> 00:21:31,363
Bobi Trail. Ok, thanks for

914
00:21:31,363 --> 00:21:33,732
having us back. Appreciate it.

915
00:21:33,732 --> 00:21:35,334
Um, we were here a while ago

916
00:21:35,334 --> 00:21:37,102
and asked a couple of things

917
00:21:37,102 --> 00:21:38,303
and you came through on

918
00:21:38,303 --> 00:21:40,238
a couple things and appreciate

919
00:21:40,238 --> 00:21:41,807
that. We had a dumpster that

920
00:21:41,807 --> 00:21:43,609
was kind of on site. Well, it

921
00:21:43,609 --> 00:21:45,744
was on sightly and

922
00:21:45,744 --> 00:21:47,780
you, uh, graciously enough put

923
00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:48,814
a fence around it, got that out

924
00:21:48,814 --> 00:21:51,249
of view, and that was great.

925
00:21:51,249 --> 00:21:53,285
So thank you. Um, second thing

926
00:21:53,285 --> 00:21:54,186
we have is the outhouse. We

927
00:21:54,186 --> 00:21:56,388
thought the outhouse was going

928
00:21:56,388 --> 00:21:58,357
to be uh

929
00:21:58,357 --> 00:21:59,391
behind a fence or a barrier too,

930
00:21:59,391 --> 00:22:00,292
and that didn

931
00:22:00,292 --> 00:22:01,760
t happen and

932
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,528
talked with Adam earlier on

933
00:22:02,528 --> 00:22:02,728
before the meeting because we

934
00:22:02,728 --> 00:22:03,662
didn

935
00:22:03,662 --> 00:22:04,362
t want a blind inside of

936
00:22:04,362 --> 00:22:04,663
them, so we told them what

937
00:22:04,663 --> 00:22:06,598
we

938
00:22:06,598 --> 00:22:06,765
re going to talk about. But

939
00:22:06,765 --> 00:22:08,765
we

940
00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:11,470
re wondering if you folks

941
00:22:11,470 --> 00:22:12,938
could maybe uh help us put a

942
00:22:12,938 --> 00:22:13,105
barrier around the outhouse.

943
00:22:13,105 --> 00:22:14,206
It

944
00:22:14,206 --> 00:22:14,373
s pretty unsightly. It

945
00:22:14,373 --> 00:22:15,808
s

946
00:22:15,808 --> 00:22:17,409
facing the street. The doors

947
00:22:17,409 --> 00:22:18,310
open all the time, and one of

948
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:19,378
my neighbors, I

949
00:22:19,378 --> 00:22:20,779
m on the board

950
00:22:20,779 --> 00:22:21,280
and we drew the short straw.

951
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:21,513
That

952
00:22:21,513 --> 00:22:22,214
s why we

953
00:22:22,214 --> 00:22:23,882
re here tonight.

954
00:22:23,882 --> 00:22:25,517
But one of my neighbors sent a

955
00:22:25,517 --> 00:22:26,785
picture of his uh

956
00:22:26,785 --> 00:22:27,786
living room window on his house.

957
00:22:27,786 --> 00:22:29,521
Can I, do you mind if I

958
00:22:29,521 --> 00:22:29,822
approach and show you the term.

959
00:22:29,822 --> 00:22:30,122
And where

960
00:22:30,122 --> 00:22:32,122
s, where

961
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:33,859
s, where are

962
00:22:33,859 --> 00:22:35,127
we talking? Ok. Yeah. Um-hum

963
00:22:35,127 --> 00:22:35,394
Yeah.. Ok Yeah. Yeah. Um-hum.

964
00:22:35,394 --> 00:22:36,610
Ok. That

965
00:22:36,610 --> 00:22:37,930
s north that directly

966
00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:40,930
in front of the pickleball

967
00:22:42,167 --> 00:22:42,734
courts....... 00, pickle. 00,

968
00:22:42,734 --> 00:22:43,335
pickle. Uh, so they

969
00:22:43,335 --> 00:22:43,902
re 00,

970
00:22:43,902 --> 00:22:44,469
pickle., so we

971
00:22:44,469 --> 00:22:45,904
re looking at

972
00:22:45,904 --> 00:22:48,400
that. Um-hum. All, probably 60,

973
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,408
70% of the time, so Bob and our

974
00:22:49,408 --> 00:22:50,809
name Ramesh got a direct line

975
00:22:50,809 --> 00:22:50,976
to it and then in 6 months

976
00:22:50,976 --> 00:22:52,811
we

977
00:22:52,811 --> 00:22:54,913
ll have a new neighbor that

978
00:22:54,913 --> 00:22:55,948
will also have be staring

979
00:22:55,948 --> 00:22:56,949
directly at it as well.

980
00:22:56,949 --> 00:22:58,818
Every day.

981
00:22:58,818 --> 00:23:00,352
You know, once they see toilet

982
00:23:00,352 --> 00:23:02,721
paper on the floor and stuff in

983
00:23:02,721 --> 00:23:04,156
there. Yeah. Which is kind of.

984
00:23:04,156 --> 00:23:05,124
Yeah, and I think the goal

985
00:23:05,124 --> 00:23:06,258
would be nothing extravagant. I

986
00:23:06,258 --> 00:23:07,226
know we were talking, you know,

987
00:23:07,226 --> 00:23:08,160
financials on what a structure

988
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,495
would look like, but just

989
00:23:09,495 --> 00:23:11,530
something to kind of mask it a

990
00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:13,320
little bit like a fence with

991
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,832
some type of cover around it. I

992
00:23:13,832 --> 00:23:14,967
mean

993
00:23:14,967 --> 00:23:16,602
yeah, I know that the one that

994
00:23:16,602 --> 00:23:17,703
I think you said North Valley

995
00:23:17,703 --> 00:23:19,571
Park was Rich Valley Park,

996
00:23:19,571 --> 00:23:20,172
sorry, uh, was a bit expensive.

997
00:23:20,172 --> 00:23:20,639
Nothing, I don

998
00:23:20,639 --> 00:23:22,639
t think anything

999
00:23:23,408 --> 00:23:23,675
to that extent, but one thing,

1000
00:23:23,675 --> 00:23:25,440
just what

1001
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,445
s your total park

1002
00:23:26,445 --> 00:23:28,445
budget?

1003
00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:29,982
Um, are you regarding

1004
00:23:29,982 --> 00:23:30,649
everything you

1005
00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:31,851
re operating

1006
00:23:31,851 --> 00:23:32,951
budgets, salaries, and

1007
00:23:32,951 --> 00:23:34,286
everything. Is it the millions

1008
00:23:34,286 --> 00:23:34,486
of dollars or it

1009
00:23:34,486 --> 00:23:35,387
s, it

1010
00:23:35,387 --> 00:23:36,922
s in the

1011
00:23:36,922 --> 00:23:39,558
area around a little north of

1012
00:23:39,558 --> 00:23:41,958
$2 million... $2 million. So if

1013
00:23:42,494 --> 00:23:44,663
you guys could be kind enough

1014
00:23:44,663 --> 00:23:46,365
to maybe find 8 or 9000

1015
00:23:46,365 --> 00:23:48,300
somewhere in slush out of that

1016
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:51,237
2 million. Maybe you could help

1017
00:23:51,237 --> 00:23:52,338
us not have to look at the

1018
00:23:52,338 --> 00:23:52,671
toilet and the stuff that

1019
00:23:52,671 --> 00:23:53,872
s

1020
00:23:53,872 --> 00:23:55,274
associated with that every day

1021
00:23:55,274 --> 00:23:56,442
because we try to be good

1022
00:23:56,442 --> 00:23:58,100
neighbors. And uh

1023
00:23:58,100 --> 00:23:59,545
I know you guys are when you

1024
00:23:59,545 --> 00:24:01,347
put the fence around there, but

1025
00:24:01,347 --> 00:24:03,749
how would you like to look out

1026
00:24:03,749 --> 00:24:05,284
your door every day and see an

1027
00:24:05,284 --> 00:24:05,451
open outhouse door. So all

1028
00:24:05,451 --> 00:24:07,451
we

1029
00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:09,622
re asking is if you could

1030
00:24:09,622 --> 00:24:12,591
kindly do that and find maybe

1031
00:24:12,591 --> 00:24:13,158
800 out of a $2.2 million

1032
00:24:13,158 --> 00:24:14,600
budget. We

1033
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:15,861
d really appreciate

1034
00:24:15,861 --> 00:24:17,430
that. I guess this would be

1035
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:19,980
something for the staff in

1036
00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:21,498
terms of response, yeah.

1037
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,802
Yeah, um, commissioners, public

1038
00:24:23,802 --> 00:24:24,690
open comment comments, um, it

1039
00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:24,236
s,

1040
00:24:24,236 --> 00:24:25,204
it

1041
00:24:25,204 --> 00:24:26,539
s typically as, as much as

1042
00:24:26,539 --> 00:24:28,841
we make a generalized statement

1043
00:24:28,841 --> 00:24:29,208
of a overall budget of $2

1044
00:24:29,208 --> 00:24:29,775
million. That

1045
00:24:29,775 --> 00:24:31,343
s all itemized

1046
00:24:31,343 --> 00:24:31,510
down to roughly the dollar. So

1047
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:31,711
it

1048
00:24:31,711 --> 00:24:32,110
s, it

1049
00:24:32,110 --> 00:24:32,378
s, I don

1050
00:24:32,378 --> 00:24:32,812
t want to say

1051
00:24:32,812 --> 00:24:33,312
that there

1052
00:24:33,312 --> 00:24:33,446
s a slush or there

1053
00:24:33,446 --> 00:24:34,380
s

1054
00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:35,615
just a little money just

1055
00:24:35,615 --> 00:24:35,815
sitting around because I think

1056
00:24:35,815 --> 00:24:37,216
that

1057
00:24:37,216 --> 00:24:39,552
s a misrepresentation of

1058
00:24:39,552 --> 00:24:39,785
how we operated. No, I get it.

1059
00:24:39,785 --> 00:24:40,190
So that

1060
00:24:40,190 --> 00:24:40,519
s, that

1061
00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:41,520
s one thing I

1062
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,522
would say to the commission. I

1063
00:24:43,522 --> 00:24:44,890
think. Secondly, if we look at

1064
00:24:44,890 --> 00:24:46,459
planning, we have outhouses

1065
00:24:46,459 --> 00:24:48,694
throughout our entire parks, um,

1066
00:24:48,694 --> 00:24:49,161
that I think a lot of neighbors

1067
00:24:49,161 --> 00:24:51,161
in ongo

1068
00:24:51,264 --> 00:24:53,650
ers would like to see some

1069
00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:54,634
capability or resolution to the

1070
00:24:54,634 --> 00:24:55,401
same thing. So not multiply

1071
00:24:55,401 --> 00:24:56,168
that times, let

1072
00:24:56,168 --> 00:24:57,236
s say how many

1073
00:24:57,236 --> 00:24:58,604
parts we have in neighborhood

1074
00:24:58,604 --> 00:25:00,106
parks.

1075
00:25:00,106 --> 00:25:01,174
30 some. So when you look at

1076
00:25:01,174 --> 00:25:02,541
that and you look at other

1077
00:25:02,541 --> 00:25:03,476
neighborhoods and again not

1078
00:25:03,476 --> 00:25:05,876
isolated just this particular

1079
00:25:05,945 --> 00:25:07,513
one. You do that times 30, that

1080
00:25:07,513 --> 00:25:08,347
8 to $9000 doesn

1081
00:25:08,347 --> 00:25:09,549
t look like 8

1082
00:25:09,549 --> 00:25:10,160
$9000. So it

1083
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,850
s something that

1084
00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:12,251
we can definitely take into

1085
00:25:12,251 --> 00:25:14,186
consideration. Um, I think what

1086
00:25:14,186 --> 00:25:15,221
we did with the current fencing,

1087
00:25:15,221 --> 00:25:16,155
um, I, I, can you recall what

1088
00:25:16,155 --> 00:25:18,558
we did with that fencing and

1089
00:25:18,558 --> 00:25:20,590
how much that was for the park.

1090
00:25:20,590 --> 00:25:21,360
For the dumpster enclosure with

1091
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:22,295
the concrete and fencing, I

1092
00:25:22,295 --> 00:25:24,130
think it was right around

1093
00:25:24,130 --> 00:25:24,730
15,000.

1094
00:25:24,730 --> 00:25:25,264
So it

1095
00:25:25,264 --> 00:25:25,698
s not that we don

1096
00:25:25,698 --> 00:25:25,865
t or

1097
00:25:25,865 --> 00:25:27,990
can

1098
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:28,668
t. I think we have to look

1099
00:25:28,668 --> 00:25:29,735
at our current budget and any

1100
00:25:29,735 --> 00:25:31,370
additional carry-ons that we

1101
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:33,406
want to look at our future.

1102
00:25:33,406 --> 00:25:33,606
This is a particular park that

1103
00:25:33,606 --> 00:25:35,606
doesn

1104
00:25:35,841 --> 00:25:37,443
t have uh plumbed in a

1105
00:25:37,443 --> 00:25:38,744
restroom location facility, so

1106
00:25:38,744 --> 00:25:39,779
at this point in time, that is

1107
00:25:39,779 --> 00:25:41,647
the current location that we

1108
00:25:41,647 --> 00:25:43,216
have available. Uh, we can look

1109
00:25:43,216 --> 00:25:44,117
at doing other locations around

1110
00:25:44,117 --> 00:25:44,550
there that MAY be out of that,

1111
00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:45,170
but I don

1112
00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:46,452
t think you could

1113
00:25:46,452 --> 00:25:48,870
have ever really treat high,

1114
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:49,455
hide it, if you will, or

1115
00:25:49,455 --> 00:25:50,790
relocate it unless you do a

1116
00:25:50,790 --> 00:25:52,925
full enclosure, which again

1117
00:25:52,925 --> 00:25:53,920
comes at a cost because you

1118
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,126
can

1119
00:25:54,126 --> 00:25:54,394
t just really fence fit

1120
00:25:54,394 --> 00:25:55,294
part

1121
00:25:55,294 --> 00:25:56,529
ial ly You have to do it about

1122
00:25:56,529 --> 00:25:57,464
3 quarters away. I mean if you

1123
00:25:57,464 --> 00:25:59,165
ever change, you have to build

1124
00:25:59,165 --> 00:26:00,633
it out for an ada accessible

1125
00:26:00,633 --> 00:26:02,402
one. So the footprint of the

1126
00:26:02,402 --> 00:26:03,970
actual concrete and the fixing

1127
00:26:03,970 --> 00:26:05,838
around it, um, and again, we

1128
00:26:05,838 --> 00:26:07,600
look at no maintenance fencing

1129
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:07,340
because if you do one, it

1130
00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:08,708
s at

1131
00:26:08,708 --> 00:26:09,709
the risk of happening and

1132
00:26:09,709 --> 00:26:11,100
starting fire, which happened

1133
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:14,800
now in a valley and again,

1134
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:14,914
hence why we had to spend 12

1135
00:26:14,914 --> 00:26:15,481
$13,000. So it

1136
00:26:15,481 --> 00:26:16,516
s something we

1137
00:26:16,516 --> 00:26:17,483
can definitely take into

1138
00:26:17,483 --> 00:26:18,818
consideration. I would be

1139
00:26:18,818 --> 00:26:19,986
remiss to want to remove from

1140
00:26:19,986 --> 00:26:20,119
that location because that

1141
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,387
s

1142
00:26:21,387 --> 00:26:23,890
the only restroom available for

1143
00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:24,230
those picklebogglers, which is

1144
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:24,324
heavily utilized. So again, we

1145
00:26:24,324 --> 00:26:26,324
can

1146
00:26:26,859 --> 00:26:28,127
look and assess the space, um,

1147
00:26:28,127 --> 00:26:29,280
and if we

1148
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,430
can

1149
00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:31,130
she is in a viable option this

1150
00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:31,464
year, we

1151
00:26:31,464 --> 00:26:31,798
ll, we

1152
00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:33,333
ll definitely

1153
00:26:33,333 --> 00:26:36,269
try to consider it, but

1154
00:26:36,269 --> 00:26:37,403
again, I, I failed to set a

1155
00:26:37,403 --> 00:26:39,439
precedent for every, you know,

1156
00:26:39,439 --> 00:26:40,473
30-some

1157
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:41,674
um restrooms within our park

1158
00:26:41,674 --> 00:26:42,775
system that we have some level

1159
00:26:42,775 --> 00:26:43,576
of full closure.

1160
00:26:43,576 --> 00:26:45,576
Right

1161
00:26:45,912 --> 00:26:47,580
And I have one more question.

1162
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:49,150
Um

1163
00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:49,649
I think the dumpster that was

1164
00:26:49,649 --> 00:26:50,116
there here it

1165
00:26:50,116 --> 00:26:50,550
s just another

1166
00:26:50,550 --> 00:26:51,117
solution. I

1167
00:26:51,117 --> 00:26:53,119
m going to just

1168
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,487
throw this out here and for

1169
00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:57,423
discussion are just food for

1170
00:26:57,423 --> 00:26:59,759
thought, but the dumpster

1171
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:01,327
originally was at South Valley

1172
00:27:01,327 --> 00:27:03,630
Park before the remodel, and

1173
00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:06,320
then it was moved up to North

1174
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,400
Valley Park in its current

1175
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:07,600
location and um there

1176
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,202
s no

1177
00:27:09,202 --> 00:27:11,400
housing around

1178
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,672
South Valley Park or maybe you

1179
00:27:12,672 --> 00:27:14,574
can move the dumpster there or

1180
00:27:14,574 --> 00:27:16,810
some other location by the city

1181
00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:17,777
shop because I do know that

1182
00:27:17,777 --> 00:27:18,778
trash from other parks are

1183
00:27:18,778 --> 00:27:19,445
coming there and it

1184
00:27:19,445 --> 00:27:21,445
s getting

1185
00:27:21,681 --> 00:27:23,149
transferred in and then

1186
00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:24,417
the uh waste holler was picking

1187
00:27:24,417 --> 00:27:24,684
it up and the fence is great.

1188
00:27:24,684 --> 00:27:26,553
That

1189
00:27:26,553 --> 00:27:27,870
s helped out a lot. But

1190
00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:28,655
here it

1191
00:27:28,655 --> 00:27:30,924
s just another low-cost

1192
00:27:30,924 --> 00:27:33,360
option. Maybe you could uh move

1193
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,961
the dumpster and then put the

1194
00:27:34,961 --> 00:27:36,629
uh outhouse seat handicap

1195
00:27:36,629 --> 00:27:37,864
accessible outhouse there, put

1196
00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:39,650
it like a nice little fence in

1197
00:27:39,650 --> 00:27:39,332
the grades there, the floor

1198
00:27:39,332 --> 00:27:40,500
s

1199
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,569
there, and they can just walk

1200
00:27:42,569 --> 00:27:44,971
in. So that would just be

1201
00:27:44,971 --> 00:27:46,172
another solution for you to

1202
00:27:46,172 --> 00:27:47,340
consider also. Ok. Thank you

1203
00:27:47,340 --> 00:27:48,541
very much and, and if it

1204
00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:48,742
s, uh

1205
00:27:48,742 --> 00:27:49,209
if it

1206
00:27:49,209 --> 00:27:49,576
s, if you

1207
00:27:49,576 --> 00:27:51,177
re satisfied

1208
00:27:51,177 --> 00:27:51,811
with this, the staff has heard

1209
00:27:51,811 --> 00:27:53,246
you and they

1210
00:27:53,246 --> 00:27:55,480
ll take a, take

1211
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,830
this into consideration in

1212
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:58,551
terms of future planning. Great.

1213
00:27:58,551 --> 00:28:00,887
I appreciate you coming. Thank

1214
00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:02,789
you, thank you very much.

1215
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:03,857
Thanks for the fence around the

1216
00:28:03,857 --> 00:28:04,724
dumpster. You

1217
00:28:04,724 --> 00:28:06,559
re welcome. Take

1218
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,461
care. All right, take care.

1219
00:28:08,461 --> 00:28:09,963
Thanks. Thank you.

1220
00:28:09,963 --> 00:28:10,563
Ok doke

1221
00:28:10,563 --> 00:28:11,998
Um, we

1222
00:28:11,998 --> 00:28:14,401
re gonna move on then to

1223
00:28:14,401 --> 00:28:16,303
unfinished business. No items,

1224
00:28:16,303 --> 00:28:18,805
uh, are, are coming back from a

1225
00:28:18,805 --> 00:28:20,374
previous meeting for us to be,

1226
00:28:20,374 --> 00:28:22,609
uh, uh, addressing, but we will

1227
00:28:22,609 --> 00:28:23,944
move on to the regular agenda

1228
00:28:23,944 --> 00:28:25,579
and Adam has both of these

1229
00:28:25,579 --> 00:28:27,470
items. The first having to do

1230
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:28,615
with getting back to uh talking

1231
00:28:28,615 --> 00:28:31,818
again about the angel of Hope

1232
00:28:31,818 --> 00:28:33,286
Memorial. We had a work session

1233
00:28:33,286 --> 00:28:35,722
uh regarding this, um, I

1234
00:28:35,722 --> 00:28:35,956
visited the site in Woodbury,

1235
00:28:35,956 --> 00:28:37,190
and we

1236
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:37,390
ve gotten information.

1237
00:28:37,390 --> 00:28:38,625
Adam

1238
00:28:38,625 --> 00:28:39,926
s gotten some information

1239
00:28:39,926 --> 00:28:40,126
about others, and so, uh, we

1240
00:28:40,126 --> 00:28:40,493
re

1241
00:28:40,493 --> 00:28:42,329
here

1242
00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:45,765
to, uh, to, uh, see where we go

1243
00:28:45,765 --> 00:28:47,100
forward with it.

1244
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,969
Ok, good evening, Commissioner

1245
00:28:48,969 --> 00:28:51,738
Adam Moss, Park and Recreation

1246
00:28:51,738 --> 00:28:53,140
director, um, this evening as

1247
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:55,175
Commissioner Cook had indicated,

1248
00:28:55,175 --> 00:28:57,944
uh, I will be presenting uh

1249
00:28:57,944 --> 00:28:59,746
what just happened

1250
00:28:59,746 --> 00:29:01,746
on yourself

1251
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:03,683
No, there we go. Ok. I

1252
00:29:03,683 --> 00:29:04,718
ll be

1253
00:29:04,718 --> 00:29:06,186
presenting on the proposed

1254
00:29:06,186 --> 00:29:07,154
Angel of Hope Memorial, um,

1255
00:29:07,154 --> 00:29:07,554
somewhere within our park

1256
00:29:07,554 --> 00:29:08,989
system, so I

1257
00:29:08,989 --> 00:29:10,457
ll give, provide a

1258
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:11,425
little background, um, a lot of

1259
00:29:11,425 --> 00:29:12,359
this is being pulled from our

1260
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:13,126
work session that we had back

1261
00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:13,694
in JULY. So we

1262
00:29:13,694 --> 00:29:14,594
ll get a little

1263
00:29:14,594 --> 00:29:15,395
bit of the details, but feel

1264
00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:17,430
free at any point to ask

1265
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:18,932
questions.

1266
00:29:18,932 --> 00:29:21,835
So this evening in front of you,

1267
00:29:21,835 --> 00:29:23,337
a quest is for the prc to

1268
00:29:23,337 --> 00:29:25,272
provide a recommendation to the

1269
00:29:25,272 --> 00:29:27,140
city council on whether to

1270
00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:29,760
support installation of Angel

1271
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:29,276
Hall Memorial site within our

1272
00:29:29,276 --> 00:29:31,144
city

1273
00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:32,479
s park system. Um, if that

1274
00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:35,479
is something that this body

1275
00:29:35,482 --> 00:29:38,285
would like to do, then the

1276
00:29:38,285 --> 00:29:40,487
commission has also requested

1277
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:42,823
to present a recommendation, um,

1278
00:29:42,823 --> 00:29:44,291
on the advicement of a location,

1279
00:29:44,291 --> 00:29:46,326
uh, the general scope and

1280
00:29:46,326 --> 00:29:47,862
design of the memorial space

1281
00:29:47,862 --> 00:29:49,196
and then a uh potential fun

1282
00:29:49,196 --> 00:29:50,970
ding approach that we, this

1283
00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:51,298
body would like to recommend to

1284
00:29:51,298 --> 00:29:53,298
the council.

1285
00:29:54,301 --> 00:29:57,638
So just a little background, um,

1286
00:29:57,638 --> 00:29:58,872
at the MAY 2025, Parker Re

1287
00:29:58,872 --> 00:30:00,274
advisory Commission meeting. We

1288
00:30:00,274 --> 00:30:01,542
had a resident propose a

1289
00:30:01,542 --> 00:30:02,610
memorial to be incorporated

1290
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:03,477
within our park system and

1291
00:30:03,477 --> 00:30:04,511
given a little bit of a

1292
00:30:04,511 --> 00:30:05,846
background of why they felt

1293
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:07,748
like it was valuable for our

1294
00:30:07,748 --> 00:30:09,160
system in this neighborhood in

1295
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,160
this community, um, after that,

1296
00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:13,887
as a result of that, the pa

1297
00:30:13,887 --> 00:30:15,122
directed staff to coordinate a

1298
00:30:15,122 --> 00:30:16,557
work session and do a little

1299
00:30:16,557 --> 00:30:17,658
homework and research on some

1300
00:30:17,658 --> 00:30:19,259
other communities within our

1301
00:30:19,259 --> 00:30:20,861
state that MAY have this same

1302
00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:21,762
memorial, so, um, that has

1303
00:30:21,762 --> 00:30:23,731
since happened

1304
00:30:23,731 --> 00:30:24,832
Um, so on JULY 30th, as I

1305
00:30:24,832 --> 00:30:27,601
indicated earlier, uh, we did

1306
00:30:27,601 --> 00:30:28,969
have a scheduled work session

1307
00:30:28,969 --> 00:30:30,971
specifically on this item to go

1308
00:30:30,971 --> 00:30:34,375
into a little bit more detail

1309
00:30:34,375 --> 00:30:36,477
on how 1 MAY um come to have

1310
00:30:36,477 --> 00:30:38,312
aang Hope Memorial site within

1311
00:30:38,312 --> 00:30:39,980
our community.

1312
00:30:39,980 --> 00:30:41,480
So what you MAY ask is Angel

1313
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,816
Hope for some of you who MAY

1314
00:30:42,816 --> 00:30:44,351
not have been at the work

1315
00:30:44,351 --> 00:30:45,786
session or um for those that

1316
00:30:45,786 --> 00:30:47,554
are watching, it is actually

1317
00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:48,656
based off and inspired by the

1318
00:30:48,656 --> 00:30:49,230
angelful book. It

1319
00:30:49,230 --> 00:30:51,230
s actually

1320
00:30:51,158 --> 00:30:52,559
the Christmas box. Um, so that

1321
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:52,793
is the angel of Hope, and it

1322
00:30:52,793 --> 00:30:54,610
s,

1323
00:30:54,610 --> 00:30:56,530
it really tells that fictional

1324
00:30:56,530 --> 00:30:58,465
story of a, uh, a family or or

1325
00:30:58,465 --> 00:31:00,167
a wife in mourning of her child

1326
00:31:00,167 --> 00:31:01,702
at the angel at the base of an

1327
00:31:01,702 --> 00:31:03,571
angel monument. So a lot of

1328
00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:05,606
this ties as to a larger

1329
00:31:05,606 --> 00:31:06,173
network throughout the country,

1330
00:31:06,173 --> 00:31:07,341
um, which you

1331
00:31:07,341 --> 00:31:08,409
ll see that this

1332
00:31:08,409 --> 00:31:09,609
network is really

1333
00:31:09,609 --> 00:31:11,278
for not just the United States,

1334
00:31:11,278 --> 00:31:12,713
we have a couple different ones

1335
00:31:12,713 --> 00:31:14,281
in different countries, but

1336
00:31:14,281 --> 00:31:14,648
over the United States, there

1337
00:31:14,648 --> 00:31:16,830
s

1338
00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:18,483
about 120 locations that have

1339
00:31:19,860 --> 00:31:20,754
an angel Hope Memorial that

1340
00:31:20,754 --> 00:31:22,790
recognize the loss of not just

1341
00:31:22,790 --> 00:31:23,324
children, um as you think of

1342
00:31:23,324 --> 00:31:23,891
young children, it

1343
00:31:23,891 --> 00:31:25,292
s just a

1344
00:31:25,292 --> 00:31:26,960
child in general. Um, so the

1345
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,428
first one was in Salt Lake City

1346
00:31:27,428 --> 00:31:28,129
and that

1347
00:31:28,129 --> 00:31:29,196
s where the kind of

1348
00:31:29,196 --> 00:31:30,898
the basis where this all

1349
00:31:30,898 --> 00:31:32,833
started. So you MAY ask, well,

1350
00:31:32,833 --> 00:31:34,768
can we just do any angel? Um,

1351
00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,170
yeah, sure we could, uh, but

1352
00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:37,671
the way this operates and

1353
00:31:37,671 --> 00:31:39,106
functions to some degree, what

1354
00:31:39,106 --> 00:31:40,374
was requested of the resident

1355
00:31:40,374 --> 00:31:42,643
was to be part of this kind of

1356
00:31:42,643 --> 00:31:42,810
network of angel of hope. So

1357
00:31:42,810 --> 00:31:44,578
it

1358
00:31:44,578 --> 00:31:46,147
s recognized as a space uh

1359
00:31:46,147 --> 00:31:47,348
for you to come and, and, um,

1360
00:31:47,348 --> 00:31:49,348
and

1361
00:31:49,917 --> 00:31:52,686
pay respects in that regard.

1362
00:31:52,686 --> 00:31:54,522
So the angel Holt statue itself

1363
00:31:54,522 --> 00:31:57,258
is roughly about 4 ft high, has

1364
00:31:57,258 --> 00:31:58,659
a wingspan of about 5 ft. Um,

1365
00:31:58,659 --> 00:32:01,595
and the the diameter of the

1366
00:32:01,595 --> 00:32:03,497
base is about 22 inches. So

1367
00:32:03,497 --> 00:32:05,933
again, these are all the same

1368
00:32:05,933 --> 00:32:07,668
angel. So all 120 of them are

1369
00:32:07,668 --> 00:32:08,936
this exact angel. That creates

1370
00:32:08,936 --> 00:32:10,238
them a part of the network,

1371
00:32:10,238 --> 00:32:11,706
which is ultimately a part of

1372
00:32:11,706 --> 00:32:13,607
the Christmas box.

1373
00:32:13,607 --> 00:32:14,942
Um book and, and, and

1374
00:32:14,942 --> 00:32:15,543
philosophy. Um

1375
00:32:15,543 --> 00:32:17,543
it

1376
00:32:17,745 --> 00:32:19,814
s made about a half-inch

1377
00:32:19,814 --> 00:32:19,981
thick bronze, um

1378
00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:21,449
it

1379
00:32:21,449 --> 00:32:23,484
s mostly hollow by the feet.

1380
00:32:23,484 --> 00:32:24,485
Um, there are some metagorments

1381
00:32:24,485 --> 00:32:26,487
on the bottom of the angel, and

1382
00:32:26,487 --> 00:32:28,990
it can be skeered secured to a

1383
00:32:28,990 --> 00:32:29,190
pedestal, um, so again, it

1384
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:30,391
s

1385
00:32:30,391 --> 00:32:32,893
best to be used with stainless

1386
00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:34,328
steel, uh, rebar attaching that

1387
00:32:34,328 --> 00:32:34,462
to the base, um, so that

1388
00:32:34,462 --> 00:32:35,696
s

1389
00:32:35,696 --> 00:32:36,797
secure. So as we do a little

1390
00:32:36,797 --> 00:32:38,165
bit more of the, as I did a

1391
00:32:38,165 --> 00:32:38,332
little bit more of the research,

1392
00:32:38,332 --> 00:32:39,660
we

1393
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:40,234
ll show some examples of

1394
00:32:40,234 --> 00:32:42,300
what this looks like in some

1395
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:43,804
neighboring communities.

1396
00:32:43,804 --> 00:32:46,400
So as it currently stands, as

1397
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,842
you look at the website, um,

1398
00:32:47,842 --> 00:32:49,944
this particular angels roughly

1399
00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:50,578
about $18,000. That

1400
00:32:50,578 --> 00:32:52,280
s just

1401
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,680
shipping, handling, the actual

1402
00:32:54,815 --> 00:32:55,416
angel itself, shipped to our

1403
00:32:55,416 --> 00:32:57,185
community.

1404
00:32:57,185 --> 00:33:00,785
Um, this could, this cost does

1405
00:33:01,220 --> 00:33:02,691
not include any type of base,

1406
00:33:02,691 --> 00:33:03,323
landscaping, design, um,

1407
00:33:03,323 --> 00:33:03,457
anything to that effect. It

1408
00:33:03,457 --> 00:33:05,457
s

1409
00:33:05,793 --> 00:33:07,228
strictly just for the angel, ok?

1410
00:33:07,228 --> 00:33:07,929
Um, what they show on their

1411
00:33:07,929 --> 00:33:08,229
website, they

1412
00:33:08,229 --> 00:33:09,664
re roughly

1413
00:33:09,664 --> 00:33:11,632
depending on how ornate you

1414
00:33:11,632 --> 00:33:14,632
want to get anywhere from 300

1415
00:33:14,635 --> 00:33:15,436
to $6000 for a base. So try to

1416
00:33:15,436 --> 00:33:16,504
think about that incorporated

1417
00:33:16,504 --> 00:33:16,704
that in the price as well.

1418
00:33:16,704 --> 00:33:17,405
That

1419
00:33:17,405 --> 00:33:18,573
s just for literally to

1420
00:33:18,573 --> 00:33:20,141
stand up in one spot.

1421
00:33:20,141 --> 00:33:22,141
Ok.

1422
00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:23,811
So some of the locations that

1423
00:33:23,811 --> 00:33:24,645
are throughout the state and

1424
00:33:24,645 --> 00:33:25,613
looks like there

1425
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:27,613
s maybe about

1426
00:33:27,948 --> 00:33:29,160
10 city municipal, public open

1427
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,784
spaces that incorporate the

1428
00:33:29,784 --> 00:33:30,151
angel of Hope. As you

1429
00:33:30,151 --> 00:33:31,852
ll see in

1430
00:33:31,852 --> 00:33:32,920
front of you, those are the 10,

1431
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,230
um, the 3 that we did a little

1432
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:36,224
bit more homework on and

1433
00:33:36,224 --> 00:33:37,325
investigation was the city of

1434
00:33:37,325 --> 00:33:39,600
Duluth.

1435
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:39,293
Woodbury, and Maple Grove.

1436
00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,950
So I

1437
00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:42,530
ll get a little bit more

1438
00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:45,166
of the details on how it came

1439
00:33:45,166 --> 00:33:47,635
to be for them as well.

1440
00:33:47,635 --> 00:33:49,370
So as you think about those

1441
00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:50,271
three cities, um, through

1442
00:33:50,271 --> 00:33:52,600
partnership is really how it

1443
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:52,206
came about, very similar to

1444
00:33:52,206 --> 00:33:54,206
what

1445
00:33:54,542 --> 00:33:56,377
s this process could look

1446
00:33:56,377 --> 00:33:57,378
like a resident or a group of

1447
00:33:57,378 --> 00:33:58,813
people came to the city,

1448
00:33:58,813 --> 00:33:58,980
approached him and said, hey,

1449
00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:00,980
we

1450
00:34:01,616 --> 00:34:03,840
d really like to see this

1451
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,352
monument memorial somewhere

1452
00:34:04,352 --> 00:34:06,921
within our community. Would you

1453
00:34:06,921 --> 00:34:08,122
be willing to be the host site

1454
00:34:08,122 --> 00:34:09,724
or allow this to be a part of

1455
00:34:09,724 --> 00:34:11,250
your public open space or

1456
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:13,250
public park.

1457
00:34:13,494 --> 00:34:15,630
Um, these, in many cases

1458
00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:16,497
between the three cities, um,

1459
00:34:16,497 --> 00:34:18,333
Duluth, Maple Grove, and

1460
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:19,867
Woodbury, some level of

1461
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:21,703
fundraising and nonprofit was

1462
00:34:21,703 --> 00:34:24,606
created in order to get, if you

1463
00:34:24,606 --> 00:34:27,575
will, the seed capital money to

1464
00:34:27,575 --> 00:34:30,211
get the angel statue, the base,

1465
00:34:30,211 --> 00:34:31,212
and some level of sight

1466
00:34:31,212 --> 00:34:31,546
construction

1467
00:34:31,546 --> 00:34:32,547
And, and I

1468
00:34:32,547 --> 00:34:33,615
ll go through each

1469
00:34:33,615 --> 00:34:34,749
kind of what each of these

1470
00:34:34,749 --> 00:34:36,284
cities went through.

1471
00:34:36,284 --> 00:34:39,870
Um, another thing to make sure

1472
00:34:39,870 --> 00:34:41,189
they kind of think about and

1473
00:34:41,189 --> 00:34:42,991
consider that part of the the

1474
00:34:42,991 --> 00:34:45,930
Christmas box story and the

1475
00:34:45,930 --> 00:34:47,762
statue itself, um, the monument

1476
00:34:47,762 --> 00:34:49,230
must have some

1477
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:51,533
indication that on DECEMBER 6th

1478
00:34:51,533 --> 00:34:53,670
at 7 P.M. Is a public gathering

1479
00:34:53,670 --> 00:34:54,350
space to kind of honor those

1480
00:34:54,350 --> 00:34:56,304
that have been lost.

1481
00:34:56,304 --> 00:34:57,338
So that needs to some degree,

1482
00:34:57,338 --> 00:34:58,406
not necessarily be fully

1483
00:34:58,406 --> 00:34:59,808
incorporated in the, the

1484
00:34:59,808 --> 00:35:00,809
placard, but it needs to be

1485
00:35:00,809 --> 00:35:02,243
represented in some way, shape

1486
00:35:02,243 --> 00:35:03,545
or form. And what I will say is

1487
00:35:03,545 --> 00:35:05,480
most people that know the angel

1488
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,114
of Hope and they know where to

1489
00:35:06,114 --> 00:35:06,514
find the website. We

1490
00:35:06,514 --> 00:35:07,582
d be

1491
00:35:07,582 --> 00:35:10,510
listed on the kind of that

1492
00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:10,352
registry of the all 120, so

1493
00:35:10,352 --> 00:35:11,820
there

1494
00:35:11,820 --> 00:35:13,254
d be a level of an

1495
00:35:13,254 --> 00:35:14,289
expectation that you kind of

1496
00:35:14,289 --> 00:35:15,423
want to think about being able

1497
00:35:15,423 --> 00:35:16,725
to house people that want to

1498
00:35:16,725 --> 00:35:19,125
come together, that specific

1499
00:35:19,461 --> 00:35:21,162
day. Now they can come 365, but

1500
00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:22,430
on DECEMBER 6th at 7 P.M., it

1501
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:24,933
is definitely meant to be a

1502
00:35:24,933 --> 00:35:26,933
gathering space.

1503
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:28,103
So if we were to go down this

1504
00:35:28,103 --> 00:35:28,370
avenue and again we

1505
00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:30,338
re not

1506
00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:31,973
talking about funding yet, um,

1507
00:35:31,973 --> 00:35:33,975
to order it itself.

1508
00:35:33,975 --> 00:35:35,911
Um, we have to go through

1509
00:35:35,911 --> 00:35:37,679
Richard Paul Evans Inc. That is

1510
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,347
the author of The Christmas Box

1511
00:35:39,347 --> 00:35:40,982
book to again to be a part of

1512
00:35:40,982 --> 00:35:42,250
this broader network, um, and,

1513
00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:43,685
and we can really kind of say

1514
00:35:43,685 --> 00:35:46,421
within the placard whatever we

1515
00:35:46,421 --> 00:35:47,722
want, but we must include this

1516
00:35:47,722 --> 00:35:50,292
include this phrase. Uh, this

1517
00:35:50,292 --> 00:35:50,558
is a Christmas Box angel statue.

1518
00:35:50,558 --> 00:35:52,527
It

1519
00:35:52,527 --> 00:35:52,761
s from the Richard, um.

1520
00:35:52,761 --> 00:35:53,995
Well I

1521
00:35:53,995 --> 00:35:55,640
m sorry, my apologies.

1522
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,464
This is where you actually have

1523
00:35:56,464 --> 00:35:57,299
to order it from. The, the

1524
00:35:57,299 --> 00:35:58,333
actual inscription will be

1525
00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:00,333
coming soon.

1526
00:36:01,703 --> 00:36:03,572
Um, but before we can order any

1527
00:36:03,572 --> 00:36:04,706
type of um

1528
00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:06,208
for it to be placed, it must be

1529
00:36:06,208 --> 00:36:08,143
50%

1530
00:36:08,143 --> 00:36:09,644
cost down, down payment.

1531
00:36:09,644 --> 00:36:10,245
And then the balance would be

1532
00:36:10,245 --> 00:36:10,679
fully done when it

1533
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:12,614
s done

1534
00:36:12,614 --> 00:36:12,814
through the 4, the foundry, and

1535
00:36:12,814 --> 00:36:14,382
that

1536
00:36:14,382 --> 00:36:16,351
s the remaining balance.

1537
00:36:16,351 --> 00:36:16,618
It takes roughly about 3 months,

1538
00:36:16,618 --> 00:36:17,218
and that

1539
00:36:17,218 --> 00:36:19,618
s depending on the

1540
00:36:19,888 --> 00:36:20,880
foundry workload.

1541
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,523
So I

1542
00:36:21,523 --> 00:36:23,240
ll get back to the

1543
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,526
inscription shortly. So in

1544
00:36:24,526 --> 00:36:26,762
Duluth, these are some images

1545
00:36:26,762 --> 00:36:28,797
from the kind of the space,

1546
00:36:28,797 --> 00:36:30,599
memorial site of what Duluth

1547
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,801
currently has. Um, I could say

1548
00:36:32,801 --> 00:36:33,735
this is kind of based on my um

1549
00:36:33,735 --> 00:36:34,970
discussions with the director

1550
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:36,538
of Parks and Recreation in

1551
00:36:36,538 --> 00:36:37,573
Duluth. Um, this is not the

1552
00:36:37,573 --> 00:36:38,940
original space. Things have

1553
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:40,308
been updated. Things have been

1554
00:36:40,308 --> 00:36:42,244
improved over time, um, but

1555
00:36:42,244 --> 00:36:42,577
this is what it currently looks

1556
00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:43,678
like as you

1557
00:36:43,678 --> 00:36:46,678
ll see in, let me

1558
00:36:49,684 --> 00:36:51,530
see if I can highlight this.

1559
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:53,488
These bricks, these are the,

1560
00:36:53,488 --> 00:36:55,488
the memorial bricks.

1561
00:36:55,557 --> 00:36:57,920
So these are what individuals

1562
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,327
will pay to do a memorial brick

1563
00:36:58,327 --> 00:37:00,395
or a donation brick, and then

1564
00:37:00,395 --> 00:37:01,430
they can get their inscription.

1565
00:37:01,430 --> 00:37:02,364
There are guidelines of what

1566
00:37:02,364 --> 00:37:04,990
could be put on there, if you

1567
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:04,499
will, from a length perspective,

1568
00:37:04,499 --> 00:37:04,900
but usually they

1569
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:06,900
re in memory

1570
00:37:07,769 --> 00:37:09,769
of.

1571
00:37:11,139 --> 00:37:13,208
Commissioner for the memory of

1572
00:37:13,208 --> 00:37:15,770
uh bricks or any other type

1573
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:16,545
that other cities use there a

1574
00:37:16,545 --> 00:37:18,513
requirement that you must be a

1575
00:37:18,513 --> 00:37:21,830
resident of that city to get

1576
00:37:21,830 --> 00:37:21,850
your brick in this case or not

1577
00:37:21,850 --> 00:37:22,551
really, or we don

1578
00:37:22,551 --> 00:37:23,685
t know.

1579
00:37:23,685 --> 00:37:25,854
Based on my research, no, I

1580
00:37:25,854 --> 00:37:26,721
think anybody could to secure

1581
00:37:26,721 --> 00:37:30,321
brick, they just have to pay

1582
00:37:31,326 --> 00:37:32,928
the fee.

1583
00:37:32,928 --> 00:37:33,963
Um, so as you look at this,

1584
00:37:33,963 --> 00:37:34,930
these are ones that are bricked

1585
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:35,264
on the ground and as you

1586
00:37:35,264 --> 00:37:37,264
ll see

1587
00:37:37,699 --> 00:37:39,668
going back to the, they

1588
00:37:39,668 --> 00:37:40,802
surround the actual statue, um,

1589
00:37:40,802 --> 00:37:41,690
themselves. And then they

1590
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:42,538
re

1591
00:37:42,538 --> 00:37:44,938
sitting around, um, this

1592
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,776
location. So this particular

1593
00:37:47,776 --> 00:37:48,977
memorial location site. It is

1594
00:37:48,977 --> 00:37:50,279
definitely off the beaten path,

1595
00:37:50,279 --> 00:37:51,747
if you will, but it is not too

1596
00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:52,881
far off the boardwalk. So you

1597
00:37:52,881 --> 00:37:53,348
have to be intentional to go

1598
00:37:53,348 --> 00:37:54,316
there. It

1599
00:37:54,316 --> 00:37:55,684
s not kind of right

1600
00:37:55,684 --> 00:37:57,252
there upfront and personal, but

1601
00:37:57,252 --> 00:37:59,121
you can find it within their

1602
00:37:59,121 --> 00:38:01,121
system.

1603
00:38:01,123 --> 00:38:01,557
Adam, did you say that wasn

1604
00:38:01,557 --> 00:38:03,557
t

1605
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:05,828
the original placement or that

1606
00:38:05,828 --> 00:38:06,280
they have built around it. They,

1607
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:06,895
they

1608
00:38:06,895 --> 00:38:08,831
ve to some degree

1609
00:38:08,831 --> 00:38:10,650
operating capital costs have

1610
00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:10,799
upgraded landscaping and things

1611
00:38:10,799 --> 00:38:11,100
around it, but it

1612
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:12,301
s original

1613
00:38:12,301 --> 00:38:12,801
location, uh, but they

1614
00:38:12,801 --> 00:38:13,969
ve added

1615
00:38:13,969 --> 00:38:14,903
additional landscape and a lot

1616
00:38:14,903 --> 00:38:15,700
of rehab on the bricks, and

1617
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:15,705
we

1618
00:38:15,705 --> 00:38:17,706
ll get a little bit further

1619
00:38:17,706 --> 00:38:17,839
into that as well. Um, so it

1620
00:38:17,839 --> 00:38:19,508
s

1621
00:38:19,508 --> 00:38:21,443
always making sure that it

1622
00:38:21,443 --> 00:38:22,945
looks nice and and is

1623
00:38:22,945 --> 00:38:25,800
functional and things as time

1624
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:26,282
goes on, grade changes, winters

1625
00:38:26,282 --> 00:38:27,783
happen, so you have to do some

1626
00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:28,951
upgrades and then

1627
00:38:28,951 --> 00:38:29,184
reinforcements of things. Well,

1628
00:38:29,184 --> 00:38:29,551
I don

1629
00:38:29,551 --> 00:38:30,686
t want to jump

1630
00:38:30,686 --> 00:38:32,187
ahead if you

1631
00:38:32,187 --> 00:38:34,187
re going to

1632
00:38:34,623 --> 00:38:36,325
recommend places as opposed to

1633
00:38:36,325 --> 00:38:37,259
us coming up with places, but

1634
00:38:37,259 --> 00:38:37,593
it just made me think that

1635
00:38:37,593 --> 00:38:39,940
maybe that

1636
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:40,362
s something to think

1637
00:38:40,362 --> 00:38:41,864
about that it could

1638
00:38:41,864 --> 00:38:42,965
establish a place that we

1639
00:38:42,965 --> 00:38:44,333
eventually

1640
00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:45,334
add to as time goes on or

1641
00:38:45,334 --> 00:38:46,369
whatever so.

1642
00:38:46,369 --> 00:38:47,469
Ok.

1643
00:38:47,469 --> 00:38:47,937
So this is, it

1644
00:38:47,937 --> 00:38:49,937
s actually in

1645
00:38:50,472 --> 00:38:53,208
Leif Ericson Park in Duluth, um,

1646
00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:54,677
an issue is privately funded

1647
00:38:54,677 --> 00:38:55,511
upfront, um, what it looked

1648
00:38:55,511 --> 00:38:56,780
like is in today

1649
00:38:56,780 --> 00:38:57,513
s dollars, if

1650
00:38:57,513 --> 00:38:59,810
you will, this is kind of a

1651
00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:00,249
little bit of an escalation, if

1652
00:39:00,249 --> 00:39:03,285
you will, back then when they

1653
00:39:03,285 --> 00:39:04,853
built it, I was around $25 to

1654
00:39:04,853 --> 00:39:04,987
35,000. But now if you

1655
00:39:04,987 --> 00:39:06,987
re

1656
00:39:07,256 --> 00:39:08,891
looking at that same type of

1657
00:39:08,891 --> 00:39:10,226
grade changing landscaping,

1658
00:39:10,226 --> 00:39:11,260
stopping electrical and water

1659
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:11,694
and utility. You

1660
00:39:11,694 --> 00:39:13,694
re looking at

1661
00:39:13,896 --> 00:39:14,697
anywhere from $7500 to $100,000.

1662
00:39:14,697 --> 00:39:16,532
Um, that

1663
00:39:16,532 --> 00:39:16,799
s an estimation. So

1664
00:39:16,799 --> 00:39:17,833
the city

1665
00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:19,680
s contribution was in

1666
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:19,335
kind to land donation, if you

1667
00:39:19,335 --> 00:39:20,503
will. It

1668
00:39:20,503 --> 00:39:22,471
s public and open. So

1669
00:39:22,471 --> 00:39:23,105
the city actually owns it, um,

1670
00:39:23,105 --> 00:39:23,806
and then there

1671
00:39:23,806 --> 00:39:25,441
s annual

1672
00:39:25,441 --> 00:39:25,641
maintenance to this, uh, it

1673
00:39:25,641 --> 00:39:26,776
doesn

1674
00:39:26,776 --> 00:39:28,277
t just kind of take care

1675
00:39:28,277 --> 00:39:30,579
of itself once you, you build

1676
00:39:30,579 --> 00:39:32,548
it and just no maintenance. So

1677
00:39:32,548 --> 00:39:33,490
they had to anticipate given

1678
00:39:33,490 --> 00:39:34,830
that because it

1679
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:35,584
s brick that

1680
00:39:35,584 --> 00:39:36,585
any time that, you know, brick

1681
00:39:36,585 --> 00:39:37,887
deteriorates over the winter,

1682
00:39:37,887 --> 00:39:38,530
they have to do replacement. So

1683
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:38,621
we

1684
00:39:38,621 --> 00:39:39,889
ll get a little bit more

1685
00:39:39,889 --> 00:39:41,230
into why we would probably not

1686
00:39:41,230 --> 00:39:42,658
recommend that if we went in

1687
00:39:42,658 --> 00:39:43,192
this direction. And then me,

1688
00:39:43,192 --> 00:39:44,360
Adam.

1689
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,695
And if there are changes made

1690
00:39:45,695 --> 00:39:47,196
like you meant there were some

1691
00:39:47,196 --> 00:39:49,196
uh

1692
00:39:49,666 --> 00:39:51,701
upgrading of the site, you know,

1693
00:39:51,701 --> 00:39:54,300
into Duluth. This once the city

1694
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,774
is accepted it, this then is on

1695
00:39:57,774 --> 00:39:59,542
the city is in uh to bear the

1696
00:39:59,542 --> 00:40:00,943
cost of that? Is, is that right?

1697
00:40:00,943 --> 00:40:02,545
Yeah, correct. If we look at,

1698
00:40:02,545 --> 00:40:03,946
depending on how we wanna

1699
00:40:03,946 --> 00:40:06,248
structure this, if you will, if,

1700
00:40:06,248 --> 00:40:07,483
if the city wants a fully

1701
00:40:07,483 --> 00:40:08,651
pay all the costs, and

1702
00:40:08,651 --> 00:40:10,419
inevitably it is ours anyway.

1703
00:40:10,419 --> 00:40:12,755
We would have to manage that

1704
00:40:12,755 --> 00:40:14,657
operating in capital. If we

1705
00:40:14,657 --> 00:40:15,892
receive a donation in, in for a

1706
00:40:15,892 --> 00:40:18,127
memorial or a monument or

1707
00:40:18,127 --> 00:40:19,762
statue, we would follow our

1708
00:40:19,762 --> 00:40:21,430
policy, which would then again

1709
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:22,765
really come back to this body

1710
00:40:22,765 --> 00:40:23,990
again to accept a donation, but

1711
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:24,467
we haven

1712
00:40:24,467 --> 00:40:25,802
t gotten to that point

1713
00:40:25,802 --> 00:40:28,771
yet where we know how this is

1714
00:40:28,771 --> 00:40:30,206
going to be funded. So yes,

1715
00:40:30,206 --> 00:40:31,400
more than likely either we have

1716
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:31,774
a nonprofit group that

1717
00:40:31,774 --> 00:40:32,875
s either

1718
00:40:32,875 --> 00:40:33,476
formulator that comes through

1719
00:40:33,476 --> 00:40:34,430
and says, you know, we

1720
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:35,378
d like

1721
00:40:35,378 --> 00:40:37,180
to donate this

1722
00:40:37,180 --> 00:40:38,848
and then it stops there, or do

1723
00:40:38,848 --> 00:40:40,750
we look at doing a memorandum

1724
00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:41,617
of understanding or a letter of

1725
00:40:41,617 --> 00:40:41,851
agreement saying here

1726
00:40:41,851 --> 00:40:42,180
s what

1727
00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:42,718
we

1728
00:40:42,718 --> 00:40:43,850
re responsible, here

1729
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:43,252
s what

1730
00:40:43,252 --> 00:40:44,120
you

1731
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,387
re responsible for. So

1732
00:40:44,387 --> 00:40:46,387
that

1733
00:40:46,856 --> 00:40:47,990
s what the city of

1734
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:48,624
Woodbury did and I

1735
00:40:48,624 --> 00:40:49,425
ll kind of

1736
00:40:49,425 --> 00:40:51,427
go a little bit further into

1737
00:40:51,427 --> 00:40:53,730
that. So right now, the city of

1738
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,331
Duluth fully operates

1739
00:40:55,331 --> 00:40:55,498
this, this entire space and

1740
00:40:55,498 --> 00:40:57,100
it

1741
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,135
s there in the owner.

1742
00:40:59,135 --> 00:41:00,570
Um, so the memorial bricks,

1743
00:41:00,570 --> 00:41:02,105
which were laid again

1744
00:41:02,105 --> 00:41:03,573
surrounding the actual statute

1745
00:41:03,573 --> 00:41:05,742
itself, only twice a year can

1746
00:41:05,742 --> 00:41:05,942
you purchase that.

1747
00:41:05,942 --> 00:41:06,842
So it

1748
00:41:06,842 --> 00:41:07,143
s not ongoing because

1749
00:41:07,143 --> 00:41:07,810
then there

1750
00:41:07,810 --> 00:41:09,278
s a certain time

1751
00:41:09,278 --> 00:41:10,647
they place the bricks in, rehab

1752
00:41:10,647 --> 00:41:12,181
any of the old bricks, so

1753
00:41:12,181 --> 00:41:12,582
instead of it, it

1754
00:41:12,582 --> 00:41:13,216
s really

1755
00:41:13,216 --> 00:41:13,716
cumbersome. So it

1756
00:41:13,716 --> 00:41:15,180
s, they only

1757
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:15,251
do it twice a year and right

1758
00:41:15,251 --> 00:41:16,352
now it

1759
00:41:16,352 --> 00:41:18,352
s $85 a brick.

1760
00:41:18,788 --> 00:41:20,156
So if you went to the City of

1761
00:41:20,156 --> 00:41:21,624
Duluth website. You can find

1762
00:41:21,624 --> 00:41:22,258
this information, click on it,

1763
00:41:22,258 --> 00:41:23,920
Angel of Hope. I

1764
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,994
d like to do a

1765
00:41:24,994 --> 00:41:26,620
brick and then it kind of walks

1766
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:28,498
you through an application form,

1767
00:41:28,498 --> 00:41:29,532
if you will, or request form,

1768
00:41:29,532 --> 00:41:30,867
and then they tell you what the

1769
00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:32,335
cost is, what, you know, how

1770
00:41:32,335 --> 00:41:33,136
much, you know, words that you

1771
00:41:33,136 --> 00:41:35,905
could put on it and things like

1772
00:41:35,905 --> 00:41:37,473
that.

1773
00:41:37,473 --> 00:41:39,876
So this is some photos of

1774
00:41:39,876 --> 00:41:41,244
Woodbury, a little bit more, I

1775
00:41:41,244 --> 00:41:44,180
would say robust if you will,

1776
00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:46,216
if you look at the amount of

1777
00:41:46,216 --> 00:41:48,618
stamp concrete and benching and

1778
00:41:48,618 --> 00:41:48,818
landscaping. Again, this is one

1779
00:41:48,818 --> 00:41:50,453
that

1780
00:41:50,453 --> 00:41:52,853
s recently completed, I

1781
00:41:52,956 --> 00:41:54,824
think back in 22 or 23, um, so

1782
00:41:54,824 --> 00:41:57,260
again, very similar statue or

1783
00:41:57,260 --> 00:42:00,630
the exact same statue, um, but

1784
00:42:00,630 --> 00:42:01,331
this is actually at their um

1785
00:42:01,331 --> 00:42:03,660
City Hall campus and Memorial

1786
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:05,268
Park, which is adjacent to the

1787
00:42:05,268 --> 00:42:06,903
city hall itself, so they um

1788
00:42:06,903 --> 00:42:08,838
were approached by a group

1789
00:42:08,838 --> 00:42:11,238
of individuals which then

1790
00:42:11,307 --> 00:42:13,476
created a Woodbury Foundation,

1791
00:42:13,476 --> 00:42:15,678
and then essentially raised

1792
00:42:15,678 --> 00:42:17,113
roughly 2 quarter of a million

1793
00:42:17,113 --> 00:42:19,315
dollars for this particular

1794
00:42:19,315 --> 00:42:22,315
site location. So again, pretty

1795
00:42:22,552 --> 00:42:24,952
robust, pretty elaborate, um,

1796
00:42:25,955 --> 00:42:28,580
again, this includes stubborn

1797
00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:28,758
and utility, electric

1798
00:42:28,758 --> 00:42:29,926
um

1799
00:42:29,926 --> 00:42:30,193
water. So those weren

1800
00:42:30,193 --> 00:42:31,294
t

1801
00:42:31,294 --> 00:42:32,629
originally there. So again you

1802
00:42:32,629 --> 00:42:34,564
can illuminate it at night and

1803
00:42:34,564 --> 00:42:35,398
you can water all the plantings

1804
00:42:35,398 --> 00:42:36,599
surrounding it. So those are

1805
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:37,634
things that have to be

1806
00:42:37,634 --> 00:42:40,700
considered as you think about

1807
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:41,705
location.

1808
00:42:41,705 --> 00:42:42,380
Um, again, the city

1809
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:42,605
s

1810
00:42:42,605 --> 00:42:43,973
contribution, it

1811
00:42:43,973 --> 00:42:45,241
s within the

1812
00:42:45,241 --> 00:42:45,575
park and then speaking to the

1813
00:42:45,575 --> 00:42:45,976
director, we

1814
00:42:45,976 --> 00:42:47,976
re looking at

1815
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:50,680
roughly about a $5000 annual

1816
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,470
maintenance. So as you

1817
00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:52,282
ll see

1818
00:42:52,282 --> 00:42:53,416
in this particular

1819
00:42:53,416 --> 00:42:56,252
shot, so instead of bricks that

1820
00:42:56,252 --> 00:42:58,388
they have laid like the city of

1821
00:42:58,388 --> 00:42:58,989
Deluted, they have placards

1822
00:42:58,989 --> 00:42:59,923
So they

1823
00:42:59,923 --> 00:43:02,459
ve also built this out

1824
00:43:02,459 --> 00:43:04,361
to have an additional 3 or 4

1825
00:43:04,361 --> 00:43:06,196
placards available if they need

1826
00:43:06,196 --> 00:43:07,597
to insert those. So from a

1827
00:43:07,597 --> 00:43:09,633
maintenance perspective this is

1828
00:43:09,633 --> 00:43:11,101
would be what we would look at

1829
00:43:11,101 --> 00:43:13,303
recommended. We would not look

1830
00:43:13,303 --> 00:43:15,710
at doing any level of bricks in

1831
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:16,873
the ground just given our

1832
00:43:16,873 --> 00:43:17,106
Minnesota winters and a

1833
00:43:17,106 --> 00:43:18,842
placard

1834
00:43:18,842 --> 00:43:19,776
s relatively easy to

1835
00:43:19,776 --> 00:43:20,977
replace if it

1836
00:43:20,977 --> 00:43:22,713
s damaged to some

1837
00:43:22,713 --> 00:43:24,214
degree, um, and then, yeah, we

1838
00:43:24,214 --> 00:43:26,820
look at that type of a model

1839
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:26,750
and so if you look in this

1840
00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:27,317
particular one, there

1841
00:43:27,317 --> 00:43:28,218
s 4 back

1842
00:43:28,218 --> 00:43:29,520
here. I think they

1843
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,870
built it out where they could

1844
00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:31,855
have 3 additional on each side.

1845
00:43:31,855 --> 00:43:32,289
If if needed. Let

1846
00:43:32,289 --> 00:43:32,455
s hope they

1847
00:43:32,455 --> 00:43:33,757
don

1848
00:43:33,757 --> 00:43:36,192
t need it, but if needed.

1849
00:43:36,192 --> 00:43:37,694
Adam, do you know if the, did

1850
00:43:37,694 --> 00:43:40,130
the foundation sort of decide

1851
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:41,999
on where it was placed and the

1852
00:43:41,999 --> 00:43:43,467
landscaping around it, or is

1853
00:43:43,467 --> 00:43:45,902
that done in conjunction with

1854
00:43:45,902 --> 00:43:46,570
the park board or with staff.

1855
00:43:46,570 --> 00:43:48,138
Yeah, so it

1856
00:43:48,138 --> 00:43:49,840
s my understanding

1857
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,675
that um kind of very similar to

1858
00:43:51,675 --> 00:43:53,176
this process. The they were

1859
00:43:53,176 --> 00:43:53,977
engaged by several residents,

1860
00:43:53,977 --> 00:43:56,790
and the residents said, hey, we

1861
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:57,547
want to come with some money to

1862
00:43:57,547 --> 00:43:59,820
do this. And so what they ended

1863
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:00,584
up doing is they engaged the

1864
00:44:00,584 --> 00:44:02,986
city and went through the, I

1865
00:44:02,986 --> 00:44:04,287
believe the commission and then

1866
00:44:04,287 --> 00:44:04,988
through council ultimately and

1867
00:44:04,988 --> 00:44:06,223
ultimately

1868
00:44:06,223 --> 00:44:07,924
as the outcome of that, they

1869
00:44:07,924 --> 00:44:10,930
came fully in hand with all the,

1870
00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:12,629
the, the funding part. Now the

1871
00:44:12,629 --> 00:44:13,630
city through in kind to is my

1872
00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:15,630
understanding also provided

1873
00:44:15,632 --> 00:44:16,900
some internal data park planner

1874
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:18,802
that supported these efforts,

1875
00:44:18,802 --> 00:44:20,637
more or less landscape

1876
00:44:20,637 --> 00:44:21,838
architecture design to help,

1877
00:44:21,838 --> 00:44:24,838
you know, create this space

1878
00:44:24,875 --> 00:44:26,343
based on what the city probably

1879
00:44:26,343 --> 00:44:27,811
wanted along in collaboration

1880
00:44:27,811 --> 00:44:29,279
and partnership with this group,

1881
00:44:29,279 --> 00:44:30,681
um, so that because we

1882
00:44:30,681 --> 00:44:31,848
ultimately the the city itself

1883
00:44:31,848 --> 00:44:33,617
had to maintain it. So there

1884
00:44:33,617 --> 00:44:35,185
were some in-kind to services

1885
00:44:35,185 --> 00:44:38,550
is my understanding. But this

1886
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:39,322
also resulted in a, in a mou.

1887
00:44:39,322 --> 00:44:40,390
So a memorandum of

1888
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:42,390
understanding with this

1889
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,328
particular nonprofit, uh,

1890
00:44:44,328 --> 00:44:46,328
Woodbury Community Foundation.

1891
00:44:47,197 --> 00:44:48,465
So there actually is a, a, a

1892
00:44:48,465 --> 00:44:48,632
clear definition of who

1893
00:44:48,632 --> 00:44:50,133
s

1894
00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:50,834
responsible for what, when and

1895
00:44:50,834 --> 00:44:51,602
where. So as you

1896
00:44:51,602 --> 00:44:53,437
ll see on this

1897
00:44:53,437 --> 00:44:54,537
one, the memorial plaques, the

1898
00:44:54,537 --> 00:44:56,537
foundation manages it.

1899
00:44:57,574 --> 00:44:59,209
Where in Duluth the cities it.

1900
00:44:59,209 --> 00:45:01,145
So they would, so if you go to

1901
00:45:01,145 --> 00:45:01,645
the Maple, uh Woodbury site,

1902
00:45:01,645 --> 00:45:02,946
click on I

1903
00:45:02,946 --> 00:45:04,147
d like to do a

1904
00:45:04,147 --> 00:45:05,516
placard. It redirect you to a

1905
00:45:05,516 --> 00:45:06,784
third party website.

1906
00:45:06,784 --> 00:45:07,818
Or if you do a Duluth, it goes

1907
00:45:07,818 --> 00:45:09,818
through the city.

1908
00:45:09,987 --> 00:45:11,987
Ok.

1909
00:45:13,423 --> 00:45:14,991
But again, when you think about

1910
00:45:14,991 --> 00:45:15,159
traditional operating costs,

1911
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:16,360
it

1912
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,761
s time, resources and

1913
00:45:17,761 --> 00:45:18,762
materials. So, given this is

1914
00:45:18,762 --> 00:45:18,996
near their city hall, and it

1915
00:45:18,996 --> 00:45:20,996
s

1916
00:45:21,665 --> 00:45:22,766
kind of one of the premier

1917
00:45:22,766 --> 00:45:23,100
locations. Um, they

1918
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,690
re still

1919
00:45:25,690 --> 00:45:25,469
doing a level of snow removal,

1920
00:45:25,469 --> 00:45:25,969
right? So that

1921
00:45:25,969 --> 00:45:27,538
s another thing

1922
00:45:27,538 --> 00:45:28,872
that we need to consider how

1923
00:45:28,872 --> 00:45:31,375
accessible is this gonna be

1924
00:45:31,375 --> 00:45:32,409
year round? Is it seasonal? So,

1925
00:45:32,409 --> 00:45:33,243
uh, Commissioner Coach, you had

1926
00:45:33,243 --> 00:45:34,440
indicated that you went to this.

1927
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:34,845
Do you have any comments based

1928
00:45:34,845 --> 00:45:36,513
on what you

1929
00:45:36,513 --> 00:45:37,810
ve seen at this

1930
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:37,881
location? It

1931
00:45:37,881 --> 00:45:38,949
s just that, uh,

1932
00:45:38,949 --> 00:45:39,750
you know, there, there

1933
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:39,950
s a,

1934
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:40,551
there

1935
00:45:40,551 --> 00:45:42,520
s an area,

1936
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,587
uh off if you face the city

1937
00:45:43,587 --> 00:45:45,550
hall, off to the left of the

1938
00:45:45,550 --> 00:45:46,357
city hall where there

1939
00:45:46,357 --> 00:45:47,424
s some

1940
00:45:47,424 --> 00:45:49,326
land and there

1941
00:45:49,326 --> 00:45:51,326
s a veterans

1942
00:45:51,462 --> 00:45:52,863
memorial site similar to kind

1943
00:45:52,863 --> 00:45:52,997
of what we have, uh, so there

1944
00:45:52,997 --> 00:45:54,231
s

1945
00:45:54,231 --> 00:45:54,364
a path to that and then there

1946
00:45:54,364 --> 00:45:56,364
s

1947
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:56,800
a path that goes around that,

1948
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,102
so you can

1949
00:45:58,102 --> 00:45:59,803
t actually see the

1950
00:45:59,803 --> 00:46:01,272
Angel of Hope site and to get

1951
00:46:01,272 --> 00:46:03,807
around the path and that then

1952
00:46:03,807 --> 00:46:04,241
is set back to a side. So it

1953
00:46:04,241 --> 00:46:04,808
s

1954
00:46:04,808 --> 00:46:06,176
private, it

1955
00:46:06,176 --> 00:46:06,343
s accessible, and

1956
00:46:06,343 --> 00:46:08,343
it

1957
00:46:09,947 --> 00:46:10,848
s part of the um memorial,

1958
00:46:10,848 --> 00:46:11,849
uh, area that that

1959
00:46:11,849 --> 00:46:12,483
s by

1960
00:46:12,483 --> 00:46:12,816
the city hall, but it

1961
00:46:12,816 --> 00:46:14,184
s not

1962
00:46:14,184 --> 00:46:14,351
right next to the city hall.

1963
00:46:14,351 --> 00:46:15,386
It

1964
00:46:15,386 --> 00:46:15,577
s not across from it. It

1965
00:46:15,577 --> 00:46:16,921
s

1966
00:46:16,921 --> 00:46:17,321
adjacent to it. So it

1967
00:46:17,321 --> 00:46:19,189
s really

1968
00:46:19,189 --> 00:46:21,892
a nice kind of layout that they

1969
00:46:21,892 --> 00:46:23,892
have there.

1970
00:46:24,161 --> 00:46:26,561
Thank you for that.

1971
00:46:26,697 --> 00:46:27,631
So this is Maple Grove, and

1972
00:46:27,631 --> 00:46:30,631
this is adjacent to the

1973
00:46:30,968 --> 00:46:32,736
arboretum. So again, placement

1974
00:46:32,736 --> 00:46:33,237
location does mean quite a bit.

1975
00:46:33,237 --> 00:46:35,237
So, as you

1976
00:46:35,806 --> 00:46:37,575
ll see, this is

1977
00:46:37,575 --> 00:46:39,443
pretty elaborate landscaping

1978
00:46:39,443 --> 00:46:40,811
design, um, but I will say this

1979
00:46:40,811 --> 00:46:41,245
and in my next slide, there

1980
00:46:41,245 --> 00:46:42,913
s a

1981
00:46:42,913 --> 00:46:44,582
substantial upgrade recently

1982
00:46:44,582 --> 00:46:46,582
and back in 2017.

1983
00:46:46,750 --> 00:46:48,385
So they do also have the bricks.

1984
00:46:48,385 --> 00:46:48,752
You kind of see them, they

1985
00:46:48,752 --> 00:46:50,254
re

1986
00:46:50,254 --> 00:46:52,256
notated surrounding it. There,

1987
00:46:52,256 --> 00:46:53,690
I, I believe that some level of

1988
00:46:53,690 --> 00:46:55,359
granite stone. So again, they

1989
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:56,661
put some money into this

1990
00:46:56,661 --> 00:46:58,661
particular one.

1991
00:46:58,795 --> 00:46:58,963
Is this the upgraded look that

1992
00:46:58,963 --> 00:47:00,963
we

1993
00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:02,666
re seeing is upgraded

1994
00:47:02,666 --> 00:47:03,568
Um, so again, it

1995
00:47:03,568 --> 00:47:05,568
s near the

1996
00:47:05,636 --> 00:47:07,638
arboretum. Um, this is public

1997
00:47:07,638 --> 00:47:10,638
and privately funded, so the

1998
00:47:10,841 --> 00:47:12,476
expansion, um, and in 2017

1999
00:47:12,476 --> 00:47:14,211
because this predated my my

2000
00:47:14,211 --> 00:47:16,180
contact over there, um, they

2001
00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:18,583
believe it was fully funded by

2002
00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:21,180
a nonprofit group to begin with,

2003
00:47:21,180 --> 00:47:23,220
but in the expansion, um, and

2004
00:47:23,220 --> 00:47:25,456
the upgrades in 2017, the city

2005
00:47:25,456 --> 00:47:26,357
put in about $175,000.

2006
00:47:26,357 --> 00:47:27,525
Um, and then the privately

2007
00:47:27,525 --> 00:47:28,759
funded, you looked at another

2008
00:47:28,759 --> 00:47:30,495
75,000.

2009
00:47:30,495 --> 00:47:32,495
So

2010
00:47:32,597 --> 00:47:33,898
um, again, the city

2011
00:47:33,898 --> 00:47:35,533
contribution is not just the

2012
00:47:35,533 --> 00:47:36,867
land in this case, um, but

2013
00:47:36,867 --> 00:47:38,970
there also is roughly about

2014
00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:40,137
another $5000 in annual

2015
00:47:40,137 --> 00:47:42,137
maintenance, um, memorial

2016
00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:44,108
bricks. This is also managed by

2017
00:47:44,108 --> 00:47:45,109
the city itself.

2018
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:46,477
And the, and I forgot to

2019
00:47:46,477 --> 00:47:48,246
mention, um, all the city ones

2020
00:47:48,246 --> 00:47:48,479
they do twice a year.

2021
00:47:48,479 --> 00:47:50,810
I don

2022
00:47:50,810 --> 00:47:51,882
t recall what the non uh

2023
00:47:51,882 --> 00:47:52,850
the other group did in Woodbury,

2024
00:47:52,850 --> 00:47:54,850
but I believe there are twice a

2025
00:47:54,850 --> 00:47:55,553
year as well. They have a

2026
00:47:55,553 --> 00:47:55,887
little bit more flexibility

2027
00:47:55,887 --> 00:47:56,988
because they

2028
00:47:56,988 --> 00:47:57,922
re on those stand

2029
00:47:57,922 --> 00:47:58,422
up placards, so it

2030
00:47:58,422 --> 00:48:00,422
s a little

2031
00:48:00,958 --> 00:48:02,226
bit easier to manage than it is

2032
00:48:02,226 --> 00:48:02,960
with the actual Brooks inlanded

2033
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,960
in the ground.

2034
00:48:05,496 --> 00:48:08,496
And there are about $125 a

2035
00:48:08,733 --> 00:48:10,735
brick, and I believe

2036
00:48:10,735 --> 00:48:12,336
the um 200 to $300 for the

2037
00:48:12,336 --> 00:48:14,105
placard. Part of what this

2038
00:48:14,105 --> 00:48:15,740
particular group does as well.

2039
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:17,740
These are fundraising efforts.

2040
00:48:17,740 --> 00:48:18,476
So they help with a little bit

2041
00:48:18,476 --> 00:48:19,977
of that capital upfront cost.

2042
00:48:19,977 --> 00:48:20,378
So that placard, again, I

2043
00:48:20,378 --> 00:48:22,378
m

2044
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,415
just making the assumptions

2045
00:48:24,415 --> 00:48:27,415
here that placard MAY cost

2046
00:48:27,918 --> 00:48:29,253
a total of $25 to actually make,

2047
00:48:29,253 --> 00:48:30,355
but everything else will go

2048
00:48:30,355 --> 00:48:31,489
towards capital investment,

2049
00:48:31,489 --> 00:48:33,489
capital improvements, things

2050
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:39,497
like that, um

2051
00:48:39,497 --> 00:48:43,970
so things to consider for this

2052
00:48:43,267 --> 00:48:44,335
body is if we want to pursue,

2053
00:48:44,335 --> 00:48:46,735
um, this particular proposal

2054
00:48:47,605 --> 00:48:49,107
from this resident is funding.

2055
00:48:49,107 --> 00:48:50,708
Um, upfront capital costs and

2056
00:48:50,708 --> 00:48:50,908
then the annual operating costs.

2057
00:48:50,908 --> 00:48:51,642
Where

2058
00:48:51,642 --> 00:48:53,177
s the money going to come

2059
00:48:53,177 --> 00:48:54,245
from for this project?

2060
00:48:54,245 --> 00:48:55,880
Um, how are we gonna pay for it

2061
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,416
year in and year out.

2062
00:48:58,416 --> 00:49:00,416
As

2063
00:49:00,418 --> 00:49:01,986
uh commissioner

2064
00:49:01,986 --> 00:49:03,154
Barker indicated

2065
00:49:03,154 --> 00:49:03,821
where should the best location

2066
00:49:03,821 --> 00:49:05,189
be? Make sure it

2067
00:49:05,189 --> 00:49:07,189
s accessible.

2068
00:49:07,191 --> 00:49:07,625
Do we want to consider and make

2069
00:49:07,625 --> 00:49:08,726
sure there

2070
00:49:08,726 --> 00:49:11,126
s some privacy and

2071
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:14,799
seclusion. Um, do we, you know

2072
00:49:14,799 --> 00:49:16,734
very similar to the, the, the

2073
00:49:16,734 --> 00:49:18,202
Luthan and Woodbury location,

2074
00:49:18,202 --> 00:49:19,537
you want to choose to be there

2075
00:49:19,537 --> 00:49:20,839
versus just being the first

2076
00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:23,575
thing that you see. You have to

2077
00:49:23,575 --> 00:49:24,375
make a, a, a, a calculated

2078
00:49:24,375 --> 00:49:24,809
decision to go in that

2079
00:49:24,809 --> 00:49:26,544
direction.

2080
00:49:26,544 --> 00:49:26,744
Do go on there to make sure

2081
00:49:26,744 --> 00:49:27,846
there

2082
00:49:27,846 --> 00:49:29,130
s natural space and area

2083
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:31,130
around it.

2084
00:49:31,983 --> 00:49:34,485
And again, the design could be

2085
00:49:34,485 --> 00:49:36,187
as simplistic or innate or

2086
00:49:36,187 --> 00:49:36,654
elaborate robusts, we

2087
00:49:36,654 --> 00:49:37,689
d like to

2088
00:49:37,689 --> 00:49:38,756
see, um, but again, that

2089
00:49:38,756 --> 00:49:40,191
s part

2090
00:49:40,191 --> 00:49:41,259
of what the discussion kind of

2091
00:49:41,259 --> 00:49:42,693
went through as we thought

2092
00:49:42,693 --> 00:49:43,161
about there in the work session.

2093
00:49:43,161 --> 00:49:44,429
And then here

2094
00:49:44,429 --> 00:49:45,797
s where I met

2095
00:49:45,797 --> 00:49:47,832
there was a required plaque on

2096
00:49:47,832 --> 00:49:49,467
the base, on the Christmas Box

2097
00:49:49,467 --> 00:49:50,769
angel and, and that the

2098
00:49:50,769 --> 00:49:52,170
DECEMBER 6th marks the annual

2099
00:49:52,170 --> 00:49:53,939
gathering for people who have

2100
00:49:53,939 --> 00:49:56,740
lost a child. So that is part

2101
00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:56,808
of the requirement

2102
00:49:56,808 --> 00:49:57,509
from the maker, so it

2103
00:49:57,509 --> 00:49:59,509
s nothing

2104
00:49:59,978 --> 00:50:01,613
that we can really get away. We

2105
00:50:01,613 --> 00:50:02,947
can request some alteration in

2106
00:50:02,947 --> 00:50:04,416
language, which I

2107
00:50:04,416 --> 00:50:06,416
ll show in

2108
00:50:06,618 --> 00:50:08,787
the actual uh maple grove and

2109
00:50:08,787 --> 00:50:10,787
Woodbury one

2110
00:50:11,356 --> 00:50:13,558
and also the positioning. The

2111
00:50:13,558 --> 00:50:16,161
plaque was positioned at the,

2112
00:50:16,161 --> 00:50:18,960
at the back side. So if you can

2113
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:18,263
tell this is Maple Grove, you

2114
00:50:18,263 --> 00:50:18,930
don

2115
00:50:18,930 --> 00:50:21,666
t see that placard or the

2116
00:50:21,666 --> 00:50:22,233
engraving, correct?

2117
00:50:22,233 --> 00:50:23,201
And then we

2118
00:50:23,201 --> 00:50:23,469
ll go to Woodbury.

2119
00:50:23,469 --> 00:50:24,235
You don

2120
00:50:24,235 --> 00:50:24,369
t see it anywhere there.

2121
00:50:24,369 --> 00:50:25,604
I

2122
00:50:25,604 --> 00:50:25,804
m going to show you where

2123
00:50:25,804 --> 00:50:27,138
they

2124
00:50:27,138 --> 00:50:30,750
re actually at and, and a

2125
00:50:30,750 --> 00:50:32,750
couple slides here.

2126
00:50:32,544 --> 00:50:33,745
So at the work session we

2127
00:50:33,745 --> 00:50:34,980
talked about several different

2128
00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:37,349
locations, but these were the

2129
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:39,784
three that we kind of landed on

2130
00:50:39,784 --> 00:50:42,184
a potential locations to

2131
00:50:43,288 --> 00:50:44,824
consider for a potential final

2132
00:50:44,824 --> 00:50:45,957
resting spot for the statute if

2133
00:50:45,957 --> 00:50:47,425
we consider it. Heritage

2134
00:50:47,425 --> 00:50:48,493
Village Park being one, Salem

2135
00:50:48,493 --> 00:50:49,994
Hills Park, and then River

2136
00:50:49,994 --> 00:50:51,994
Heights Park.

2137
00:50:52,397 --> 00:50:53,899
So if we were to consider

2138
00:50:53,899 --> 00:50:56,868
heritage, this is not an end

2139
00:50:56,868 --> 00:50:59,268
all be all. Um

2140
00:50:59,804 --> 00:51:01,806
we thought about a location, so

2141
00:51:01,806 --> 00:51:02,274
this particular parking lot,

2142
00:51:02,274 --> 00:51:03,609
that it

2143
00:51:03,609 --> 00:51:04,810
s all been redone and

2144
00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:06,111
now we have an expansion of the

2145
00:51:06,111 --> 00:51:07,179
parking lot. So we have a

2146
00:51:07,179 --> 00:51:09,470
parking lot that expanded this

2147
00:51:09,470 --> 00:51:10,150
way and then we have an

2148
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:11,983
additional trail connectivity

2149
00:51:11,983 --> 00:51:13,385
that connects to this internal

2150
00:51:13,385 --> 00:51:14,252
trail. Then if you were to go

2151
00:51:14,252 --> 00:51:15,887
northbound on that internal

2152
00:51:15,887 --> 00:51:17,789
trail, then then you connect to

2153
00:51:17,789 --> 00:51:19,491
the greenway. Is there a

2154
00:51:19,491 --> 00:51:21,260
potential space in this. This

2155
00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:22,270
is all relatively flat

2156
00:51:22,270 --> 00:51:23,495
Um, the one thing you have to

2157
00:51:23,495 --> 00:51:24,996
consider if we wanted to

2158
00:51:24,996 --> 00:51:25,396
illuminate it or irrigate it,

2159
00:51:25,396 --> 00:51:25,897
we currently don

2160
00:51:25,897 --> 00:51:27,366
t have

2161
00:51:27,366 --> 00:51:27,933
anything stubbed in that far

2162
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:28,833
north. We

2163
00:51:28,833 --> 00:51:30,268
ve worked some

2164
00:51:30,268 --> 00:51:31,103
irrigation and we could

2165
00:51:31,103 --> 00:51:31,736
potentially tap into, but I

2166
00:51:31,736 --> 00:51:33,736
think if you

2167
00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:35,741
re looking at any

2168
00:51:35,741 --> 00:51:36,842
level of electrical

2169
00:51:36,842 --> 00:51:37,142
illumination. We

2170
00:51:37,142 --> 00:51:38,643
re a little

2171
00:51:38,643 --> 00:51:39,611
bit further down the road of

2172
00:51:39,611 --> 00:51:41,246
that actually truly ever

2173
00:51:41,246 --> 00:51:42,647
happening until we look at that

2174
00:51:42,647 --> 00:51:44,349
6th and final phase of Heritage

2175
00:51:44,349 --> 00:51:45,851
Village Park, Park, which

2176
00:51:45,851 --> 00:51:47,119
includes some shelters as well

2177
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:48,553
in this northern half.

2178
00:51:48,553 --> 00:51:51,290
Are those other three that you

2179
00:51:51,290 --> 00:51:53,910
showed us, are those lit up

2180
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:54,292
Um, Maple Grove and Woodbury, I

2181
00:51:54,292 --> 00:51:54,693
believe, are, I don

2182
00:51:54,693 --> 00:51:56,693
t believe

2183
00:51:57,596 --> 00:51:58,997
Duluth is. There MAY be some

2184
00:51:58,997 --> 00:52:00,966
safety lighting along the trail

2185
00:52:00,966 --> 00:52:02,234
or as you enter it, but I

2186
00:52:02,234 --> 00:52:03,468
believe Woodbury and Maple

2187
00:52:03,468 --> 00:52:04,937
Grove are illuminated within

2188
00:52:04,937 --> 00:52:06,204
the space. So some of the

2189
00:52:06,204 --> 00:52:06,638
lights were actually engraved

2190
00:52:06,638 --> 00:52:07,773
or they

2191
00:52:07,773 --> 00:52:09,307
re inlaid within the

2192
00:52:09,307 --> 00:52:12,778
concrete at at the Woodbury one.

2193
00:52:12,778 --> 00:52:15,581
So they kind of cast light up.

2194
00:52:15,581 --> 00:52:16,281
So this red circle identifies a

2195
00:52:16,281 --> 00:52:17,182
potential. It

2196
00:52:17,182 --> 00:52:18,684
s not the only

2197
00:52:18,684 --> 00:52:21,553
spot or opportunity, but this

2198
00:52:21,553 --> 00:52:22,721
would give you that nature feel.

2199
00:52:22,721 --> 00:52:22,955
You have to be intentional, and

2200
00:52:22,955 --> 00:52:23,522
wouldn

2201
00:52:23,522 --> 00:52:24,423
t be the first thing

2202
00:52:24,423 --> 00:52:25,570
that you see, you

2203
00:52:25,570 --> 00:52:26,892
d have to go

2204
00:52:26,892 --> 00:52:29,610
make a concerted effort to walk

2205
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:30,629
in that location. Now one thing

2206
00:52:30,629 --> 00:52:31,196
to consider, um

2207
00:52:31,196 --> 00:52:32,231
not that it

2208
00:52:32,231 --> 00:52:34,566
s ideal, but just

2209
00:52:34,566 --> 00:52:36,100
north of this is the gun range,

2210
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:38,237
Saint Paulun Range, which is

2211
00:52:38,237 --> 00:52:40,637
not going anywhere. Um

2212
00:52:41,507 --> 00:52:42,608
you run that same type of

2213
00:52:42,608 --> 00:52:43,208
you hear those same type of

2214
00:52:43,208 --> 00:52:44,900
sounds whether you

2215
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:44,743
re on the

2216
00:52:44,743 --> 00:52:45,110
splash pad, you

2217
00:52:45,110 --> 00:52:46,780
re doing the

2218
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:48,478
playground, you have the

2219
00:52:48,847 --> 00:52:49,140
inclusive or the dog park,

2220
00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:51,140
you

2221
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,819
re still within this space

2222
00:52:53,819 --> 00:52:54,953
daily, young and old. So, um,

2223
00:52:54,953 --> 00:52:57,953
this is a community park.

2224
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:59,858
So there it can accommodate

2225
00:52:59,858 --> 00:53:00,726
more parking, that can

2226
00:53:00,726 --> 00:53:02,726
accommodate that potential

2227
00:53:02,895 --> 00:53:04,296
DECEMBER, you know, 7th meeting

2228
00:53:04,296 --> 00:53:05,597
date, um, again, things to

2229
00:53:05,597 --> 00:53:07,597
consider

2230
00:53:08,434 --> 00:53:08,767
So that was one location

2231
00:53:08,767 --> 00:53:10,767
we have, I

2232
00:53:11,537 --> 00:53:13,537
m sorry to

2233
00:53:13,672 --> 00:53:14,740
Salem Hills Park was another

2234
00:53:14,740 --> 00:53:15,407
option or thought. Again, we

2235
00:53:15,407 --> 00:53:16,408
have a little bit, I already

2236
00:53:16,408 --> 00:53:16,542
have a parking lot. We

2237
00:53:16,542 --> 00:53:18,100
re

2238
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:19,545
already looking at expanding

2239
00:53:19,545 --> 00:53:20,312
this location next year as far

2240
00:53:20,312 --> 00:53:20,879
as the parking lot

2241
00:53:20,879 --> 00:53:22,879
s concerned.

2242
00:53:23,682 --> 00:53:25,217
Harmond Preserve is just due

2243
00:53:25,217 --> 00:53:26,685
southwest of this location. Um,

2244
00:53:26,685 --> 00:53:29,722
we do have some nurseries that

2245
00:53:29,722 --> 00:53:31,457
we can maybe look at um

2246
00:53:31,457 --> 00:53:33,425
scaling back a little bit. The

2247
00:53:33,425 --> 00:53:34,527
nursery is for Austin.

2248
00:53:34,527 --> 00:53:36,395
Plant additional trees within

2249
00:53:36,395 --> 00:53:37,530
our park system. It would be

2250
00:53:37,530 --> 00:53:37,796
off a pathway. There

2251
00:53:37,796 --> 00:53:39,796
s an

2252
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,169
option here, we can again, as a

2253
00:53:43,169 --> 00:53:43,969
simplistic, ornate as possible,

2254
00:53:43,969 --> 00:53:45,471
um.

2255
00:53:45,471 --> 00:53:47,720
Brian, can you let me know, do

2256
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:50,672
we have irrigation at this park?

2257
00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:52,411
Garden has a spigot so a spigot

2258
00:53:52,411 --> 00:53:53,979
so we could potentially tap

2259
00:53:53,979 --> 00:53:56,480
into if we absolutely needed to.

2260
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,383
So again, these are some

2261
00:53:57,383 --> 00:53:57,916
locations to think about these

2262
00:53:57,916 --> 00:53:58,851
uh and they

2263
00:53:58,851 --> 00:53:59,552
ll be all, but

2264
00:53:59,552 --> 00:54:01,952
something that we could

2265
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:03,550
consider

2266
00:54:03,550 --> 00:54:04,824
The third location that was

2267
00:54:04,824 --> 00:54:06,892
discussed of River Heights Park.

2268
00:54:06,892 --> 00:54:08,160
And again, this had

2269
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,762
accommodated a parking. This is

2270
00:54:09,762 --> 00:54:11,297
not necessarily, I mean it is a

2271
00:54:11,297 --> 00:54:11,697
neighborhood park, but it

2272
00:54:11,697 --> 00:54:13,599
s a

2273
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:14,967
regional-esque given we have

2274
00:54:14,967 --> 00:54:16,268
Harmon Preserve. So again, you

2275
00:54:16,268 --> 00:54:17,570
have a little bit more traffic

2276
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:17,736
to some degree, but in nature

2277
00:54:17,736 --> 00:54:19,638
it

2278
00:54:19,638 --> 00:54:20,739
s a larger park

2279
00:54:20,739 --> 00:54:20,907
So River Heights Park, if

2280
00:54:20,907 --> 00:54:21,841
you

2281
00:54:21,841 --> 00:54:23,109
ve not been, you should

2282
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:25,109
visit. It

2283
00:54:25,644 --> 00:54:28,147
s a fantastic kind of

2284
00:54:28,147 --> 00:54:30,816
natural paved paths, um, very

2285
00:54:30,816 --> 00:54:33,219
passive, a very serene, very

2286
00:54:33,219 --> 00:54:35,540
secluded and isolated, um, and

2287
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:36,655
where that red circle is, is

2288
00:54:36,655 --> 00:54:36,856
where there is a potential,

2289
00:54:36,856 --> 00:54:37,857
there

2290
00:54:37,857 --> 00:54:39,910
s a nice grouping of

2291
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:39,258
trees that I could kind of,

2292
00:54:39,258 --> 00:54:41,600
let

2293
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,629
s say hide behind, but it

2294
00:54:43,629 --> 00:54:44,730
very similar to what Duluths

2295
00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:45,970
look like

2296
00:54:45,970 --> 00:54:45,932
Um, there

2297
00:54:45,932 --> 00:54:46,932
s already kind of

2298
00:54:46,932 --> 00:54:48,467
some landscape in there. We

2299
00:54:48,467 --> 00:54:49,368
could look at enhancing that

2300
00:54:49,368 --> 00:54:50,469
space, but one thing I would

2301
00:54:50,469 --> 00:54:50,636
like to note is the parking

2302
00:54:50,636 --> 00:54:52,104
s

2303
00:54:52,104 --> 00:54:53,205
out here.

2304
00:54:53,205 --> 00:54:54,507
It is kind of one of the first

2305
00:54:54,507 --> 00:54:57,310
things that you would see

2306
00:54:57,310 --> 00:54:59,310
um

2307
00:55:00,246 --> 00:55:01,380
is it, does it meet the

2308
00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:03,380
environmental aesthetic that

2309
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:05,251
you 1 MAY think to have. Yes,

2310
00:55:05,251 --> 00:55:05,851
um, but again, not a

2311
00:55:05,851 --> 00:55:06,185
neighborhood part or it

2312
00:55:06,185 --> 00:55:07,653
s very

2313
00:55:07,653 --> 00:55:09,822
much a neighborhood park with

2314
00:55:09,822 --> 00:55:10,990
no other elements

2315
00:55:10,990 --> 00:55:12,158
um for community gathering

2316
00:55:12,158 --> 00:55:13,726
outside of would be just that

2317
00:55:13,726 --> 00:55:13,893
space, and there is no parking.

2318
00:55:13,893 --> 00:55:14,427
It

2319
00:55:14,427 --> 00:55:15,561
d be street parking all

2320
00:55:15,561 --> 00:55:16,195
night.

2321
00:55:16,195 --> 00:55:17,960
And I don

2322
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:17,563
t think, I don

2323
00:55:17,563 --> 00:55:17,763
t,

2324
00:55:17,763 --> 00:55:19,650
there

2325
00:55:19,650 --> 00:55:19,599
s not electric, is there

2326
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:20,467
water? There

2327
00:55:20,467 --> 00:55:20,700
s no water either.

2328
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:22,100
I don

2329
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:22,168
t think there, yeah. So

2330
00:55:22,168 --> 00:55:23,836
you

2331
00:55:23,836 --> 00:55:25,137
d have to bring in utility

2332
00:55:25,137 --> 00:55:28,137
from somewhere, which has a

2333
00:55:29,542 --> 00:55:30,777
substantial cost.

2334
00:55:30,777 --> 00:55:33,812
So as we think about and

2335
00:55:33,812 --> 00:55:35,812
consider funding,

2336
00:55:35,848 --> 00:55:37,383
do we look at privately funded

2337
00:55:37,383 --> 00:55:39,685
only, all of it, a portion of

2338
00:55:39,685 --> 00:55:41,254
it or none of it. City funding,

2339
00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:43,489
all of it, portion or none of

2340
00:55:43,489 --> 00:55:45,625
it, we can look at doing cash

2341
00:55:45,625 --> 00:55:47,393
Um, we do have a, a potential

2342
00:55:47,393 --> 00:55:48,861
couple of funds to look at and

2343
00:55:48,861 --> 00:55:51,197
consider, both within parks,

2344
00:55:51,197 --> 00:55:52,650
mainly within parks, or do we

2345
00:55:52,650 --> 00:55:53,232
look at something like the host

2346
00:55:53,232 --> 00:55:55,232
Community Fund.

2347
00:55:55,268 --> 00:55:57,503
Um, but we also do in kind too.

2348
00:55:57,503 --> 00:55:58,838
So part of the work session and,

2349
00:55:58,838 --> 00:56:00,540
and, and

2350
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:02,342
Brian had indicated, depending

2351
00:56:02,342 --> 00:56:03,843
on how ordinate we get or

2352
00:56:03,843 --> 00:56:04,430
simplistic we get, we, our

2353
00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:04,911
park

2354
00:56:04,911 --> 00:56:06,746
s maintenance team has a

2355
00:56:06,746 --> 00:56:06,879
really good skill set. They

2356
00:56:06,879 --> 00:56:07,880
re

2357
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,470
great at projects. There

2358
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:10,470
s a

2359
00:56:10,550 --> 00:56:11,617
lot of things that we can do,

2360
00:56:11,617 --> 00:56:14,387
um, in-house. Uh, we would

2361
00:56:14,387 --> 00:56:15,955
still want to hire out some

2362
00:56:15,955 --> 00:56:17,891
landscape design or get some

2363
00:56:17,891 --> 00:56:19,559
feedback from the design art um

2364
00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:20,460
designer on it, but we can do a

2365
00:56:20,460 --> 00:56:20,793
lot of things depending on

2366
00:56:20,793 --> 00:56:22,328
where we

2367
00:56:22,328 --> 00:56:23,863
re we we we locate

2368
00:56:23,863 --> 00:56:24,631
this. I would say Heritage

2369
00:56:24,631 --> 00:56:25,364
Village, it

2370
00:56:25,364 --> 00:56:26,799
s probably the

2371
00:56:26,799 --> 00:56:28,334
flattest, probably the easiest

2372
00:56:28,334 --> 00:56:28,601
to manipulate in a way of we

2373
00:56:28,601 --> 00:56:30,503
could do

2374
00:56:30,503 --> 00:56:32,538
a lot of those things in-house,

2375
00:56:32,538 --> 00:56:33,740
um

2376
00:56:33,740 --> 00:56:35,800
somewhat similar with River

2377
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:35,942
Heights Park, I would say

2378
00:56:35,942 --> 00:56:37,510
probably the most challenging

2379
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:39,412
to some degree would be Salem

2380
00:56:39,412 --> 00:56:40,647
Hills, just given that its

2381
00:56:40,647 --> 00:56:40,880
current slope angle. We

2382
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,382
d have

2383
00:56:42,382 --> 00:56:43,750
to do quite a bit of either

2384
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:44,651
grading or bringing it up to

2385
00:56:44,651 --> 00:56:45,618
grade. So

2386
00:56:45,618 --> 00:56:47,520
something we can look at doing

2387
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,422
a more of an in-kind or do we

2388
00:56:49,422 --> 00:56:51,900
do a combination of both, uh, a

2389
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,900
little private and city funds

2390
00:56:54,594 --> 00:56:54,794
and in kind to, but um as I

2391
00:56:54,794 --> 00:56:56,163
d

2392
00:56:56,163 --> 00:56:57,831
indicated earlier, if the

2393
00:56:57,831 --> 00:56:58,398
statute is donated by a private

2394
00:56:58,398 --> 00:57:00,398
party,

2395
00:57:01,134 --> 00:57:03,360
it would sell to cycle back

2396
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,400
through this body to accept the

2397
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:05,238
actual statue itself.

2398
00:57:05,238 --> 00:57:06,639
That

2399
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,108
s what follows all of our

2400
00:57:09,108 --> 00:57:11,311
current policy that I think we

2401
00:57:11,311 --> 00:57:12,278
erected in 2022, um, for those

2402
00:57:12,278 --> 00:57:15,278
of you remember at Heritage

2403
00:57:15,315 --> 00:57:18,151
Village Park, we had the um

2404
00:57:18,151 --> 00:57:20,186
monument of the uh covid first

2405
00:57:20,186 --> 00:57:20,553
responders or essential workers,

2406
00:57:20,553 --> 00:57:21,187
monument that

2407
00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:22,522
s that heritage

2408
00:57:22,522 --> 00:57:23,857
village, that process is

2409
00:57:23,857 --> 00:57:24,791
created so that we can accept

2410
00:57:24,791 --> 00:57:25,240
things like that and you

2411
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,492
d have

2412
00:57:26,492 --> 00:57:27,494
to go through a process which

2413
00:57:27,494 --> 00:57:28,728
includes coming back before

2414
00:57:28,728 --> 00:57:29,762
this body if anything is

2415
00:57:29,762 --> 00:57:31,762
donated.

2416
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,634
Ok

2417
00:57:34,634 --> 00:57:34,801
So as you consider design,

2418
00:57:34,801 --> 00:57:36,136
we

2419
00:57:36,136 --> 00:57:37,637
ve talked about a couple of

2420
00:57:37,637 --> 00:57:41,237
the things already. It could be

2421
00:57:41,641 --> 00:57:42,976
simple, it could be elaborate

2422
00:57:42,976 --> 00:57:43,643
uh, to commissioner Barker

2423
00:57:43,643 --> 00:57:44,911
s

2424
00:57:44,911 --> 00:57:46,613
comments

2425
00:57:46,613 --> 00:57:47,480
Do we look at simplistic first

2426
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,820
with the opportunity to build

2427
00:57:49,820 --> 00:57:50,817
up later, you know, you, you

2428
00:57:50,817 --> 00:57:51,451
make sure that we have that

2429
00:57:51,451 --> 00:57:53,219
space

2430
00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:55,488
ok? Um, it could be small or

2431
00:57:55,488 --> 00:57:57,357
medium, kind of in, in nature.

2432
00:57:57,357 --> 00:57:58,658
So after having a little bit of

2433
00:57:58,658 --> 00:58:00,794
discussion with Brian, a park

2434
00:58:00,794 --> 00:58:00,994
superintendent, we thought, ok,

2435
00:58:00,994 --> 00:58:02,994
that

2436
00:58:03,597 --> 00:58:05,765
d be more about 50 by 50

2437
00:58:05,765 --> 00:58:06,967
area space, small or medium

2438
00:58:06,967 --> 00:58:09,536
location, but if you want to go

2439
00:58:09,536 --> 00:58:09,669
a little bit larger, you

2440
00:58:09,669 --> 00:58:10,770
re

2441
00:58:10,770 --> 00:58:12,839
looking more towards something

2442
00:58:12,839 --> 00:58:13,807
similar to like the size of the

2443
00:58:13,807 --> 00:58:15,575
heritage village Park

2444
00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:16,877
roundhouse shelter. So a little

2445
00:58:16,877 --> 00:58:18,445
bit larger in nature, but it

2446
00:58:18,445 --> 00:58:19,846
gives you maybe that you start

2447
00:58:19,846 --> 00:58:21,448
small with the design, but you

2448
00:58:21,448 --> 00:58:23,983
know that maybe your footprint

2449
00:58:23,983 --> 00:58:26,520
from a larger location.

2450
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,456
Um, obviously, the scope of the

2451
00:58:29,456 --> 00:58:31,558
design will determine the cost

2452
00:58:31,558 --> 00:58:33,958
Um, connecting utilities is

2453
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:34,794
gonna be a huge component of

2454
00:58:34,794 --> 00:58:35,662
costs.

2455
00:58:35,662 --> 00:58:37,662
Um

2456
00:58:38,131 --> 00:58:38,999
and then again, as I indicated

2457
00:58:38,999 --> 00:58:40,534
the current site really

2458
00:58:40,534 --> 00:58:41,268
dictated as well.

2459
00:58:41,268 --> 00:58:42,269
Um

2460
00:58:42,269 --> 00:58:44,971
I already mentioned the park

2461
00:58:44,971 --> 00:58:47,400
staff being able to support it.

2462
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:47,507
And if we get to a point, and

2463
00:58:47,507 --> 00:58:48,375
again that we

2464
00:58:48,375 --> 00:58:48,642
re not at a point

2465
00:58:48,642 --> 00:58:49,420
where we

2466
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:49,609
re fully designing

2467
00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:50,770
this thing. That

2468
00:58:50,770 --> 00:58:50,343
s not what

2469
00:58:50,343 --> 00:58:51,812
s

2470
00:58:51,812 --> 00:58:52,450
in front of you this evening,

2471
00:58:52,450 --> 00:58:52,946
but it

2472
00:58:52,946 --> 00:58:54,281
s really just trying to

2473
00:58:54,281 --> 00:58:56,490
give a recommendation to

2474
00:58:56,490 --> 00:58:57,217
council if we could go in that

2475
00:58:57,217 --> 00:58:58,685
direction.

2476
00:58:58,685 --> 00:59:00,487
Commissioner Torre, um, just to

2477
00:59:00,487 --> 00:59:01,621
clarify

2478
00:59:01,621 --> 00:59:02,550
has it been approved that we

2479
00:59:02,550 --> 00:59:02,589
re

2480
00:59:02,589 --> 00:59:03,230
moving forward or we

2481
00:59:03,230 --> 00:59:03,156
re, we

2482
00:59:03,156 --> 00:59:04,624
re

2483
00:59:04,624 --> 00:59:06,293
still just at the

2484
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:08,295
this is what it would look like

2485
00:59:08,295 --> 00:59:09,830
At this point in time, what is

2486
00:59:09,830 --> 00:59:12,165
requested of this body this

2487
00:59:12,165 --> 00:59:13,867
evening if the park andre a

2488
00:59:13,867 --> 00:59:15,702
Baja Commission would recommend

2489
00:59:15,702 --> 00:59:15,936
approving this to move forward,

2490
00:59:15,936 --> 00:59:17,700
and we

2491
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:17,771
ll get into the exact

2492
00:59:17,771 --> 00:59:17,904
details of what you

2493
00:59:17,904 --> 00:59:19,573
re

2494
00:59:19,573 --> 00:59:20,730
recommending.

2495
00:59:20,730 --> 00:59:21,541
Yep

2496
00:59:21,541 --> 00:59:22,609
So if we, if we did a little

2497
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:23,477
bit of ordinate and we wanted

2498
00:59:23,477 --> 00:59:25,445
to look, hey, you know what,

2499
00:59:25,445 --> 00:59:26,413
this needs to be ordinate. You

2500
00:59:26,413 --> 00:59:28,515
would more than likely want to

2501
00:59:28,515 --> 00:59:30,317
bring in some level of

2502
00:59:30,317 --> 00:59:31,518
landscape architect or a

2503
00:59:31,518 --> 00:59:32,986
landscape designer to help

2504
00:59:32,986 --> 00:59:34,121
create what that looks like.

2505
00:59:34,121 --> 00:59:35,322
And again, if we start small

2506
00:59:35,322 --> 00:59:37,157
and like just get the statute

2507
00:59:37,157 --> 00:59:38,910
and create that space and do

2508
00:59:38,910 --> 00:59:40,600
some things smaller, but then

2509
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,296
we can look at it doing a

2510
00:59:42,296 --> 00:59:43,330
little bit more of an elaborate

2511
00:59:43,330 --> 00:59:45,499
design later on. We can do that

2512
00:59:45,499 --> 00:59:47,499
as well, so.

2513
00:59:48,902 --> 00:59:50,904
So as I indicated earlier, um

2514
00:59:50,904 --> 00:59:52,840
between Maple Grove and

2515
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,840
Woodbury to your left is

2516
00:59:56,677 --> 00:59:59,770
Woodberries, so the requirement

2517
00:59:59,313 --> 01:00:01,115
of the actual inscription was

2518
01:00:01,115 --> 01:00:02,382
the Christmas box angel. So

2519
01:00:02,382 --> 01:00:03,750
they actually, if you look at

2520
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:05,419
this carefully enough, they did

2521
01:00:05,419 --> 01:00:07,121
not have this is a gathering

2522
01:00:07,121 --> 01:00:09,521
place on DECEMBER 7th.

2523
01:00:10,524 --> 01:00:12,993
So they had to get written

2524
01:00:12,993 --> 01:00:14,270
consent from the actual um

2525
01:00:14,270 --> 01:00:15,329
artists.

2526
01:00:15,329 --> 01:00:17,131
Paul Richard Paul Evans to do

2527
01:00:17,131 --> 01:00:17,664
that. But they did talk about

2528
01:00:17,664 --> 01:00:18,365
what it

2529
01:00:18,365 --> 01:00:19,166
s for and then the

2530
01:00:19,166 --> 01:00:20,868
dedication day.

2531
01:00:20,868 --> 01:00:22,868
Ok.

2532
01:00:23,937 --> 01:00:26,390
So when you look at Maple Grove

2533
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:27,808
they also said the Christmas

2534
01:00:27,808 --> 01:00:29,743
box angel, but they also

2535
01:00:29,743 --> 01:00:31,245
indicated the annual

2536
01:00:31,245 --> 01:00:33,645
candlelight vigil DECEMBER 6th

2537
01:00:33,747 --> 01:00:35,482
at 7 P.M. And with some

2538
01:00:35,482 --> 01:00:36,316
additional um dedications, um,

2539
01:00:36,316 --> 01:00:38,218
engraving.

2540
01:00:38,218 --> 01:00:39,319
So we can deviate a little bit,

2541
01:00:39,319 --> 01:00:40,988
but it does have to say this is

2542
01:00:40,988 --> 01:00:42,923
the Christmas box angel.

2543
01:00:42,923 --> 01:00:43,457
Um, we MAY not have to call out

2544
01:00:43,457 --> 01:00:44,958
that it

2545
01:00:44,958 --> 01:00:46,660
s the DECEMBER 6th

2546
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:47,828
marks the annual gathering

2547
01:00:47,828 --> 01:00:48,362
space, as you

2548
01:00:48,362 --> 01:00:49,630
ll see in

2549
01:00:49,630 --> 01:00:49,763
Woodbury, it doesn

2550
01:00:49,763 --> 01:00:50,698
t say that.

2551
01:00:50,698 --> 01:00:53,167
In Maple Grove, it does say

2552
01:00:53,167 --> 01:00:54,735
that. So there is a little bit

2553
01:00:54,735 --> 01:00:57,735
of flexibility after we get

2554
01:01:00,774 --> 01:01:02,576
approval from Richard Plevitz.

2555
01:01:02,576 --> 01:01:03,344
So to Commissioner Torres

2556
01:01:03,344 --> 01:01:04,511
s

2557
01:01:04,511 --> 01:01:05,746
recent comment, what are we

2558
01:01:05,746 --> 01:01:06,981
actually doing this evening?

2559
01:01:06,981 --> 01:01:07,715
The question first and foremost,

2560
01:01:07,715 --> 01:01:08,482
again, that

2561
01:01:08,482 --> 01:01:10,484
s high level, and

2562
01:01:10,484 --> 01:01:11,919
before we MAY begin this action

2563
01:01:11,919 --> 01:01:13,220
request, does anybody have any

2564
01:01:13,220 --> 01:01:13,487
additional questions for me? I

2565
01:01:13,487 --> 01:01:14,321
know we

2566
01:01:14,321 --> 01:01:15,923
ve kind of covered some

2567
01:01:15,923 --> 01:01:17,925
of this within the work session

2568
01:01:17,925 --> 01:01:19,260
on JULY, but this was a very

2569
01:01:19,260 --> 01:01:21,260
high level quick.

2570
01:01:22,162 --> 01:01:24,131
Presentation

2571
01:01:24,131 --> 01:01:25,166
Question, um, have there been

2572
01:01:25,166 --> 01:01:26,200
any other community members

2573
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,535
that have reached out that have

2574
01:01:27,535 --> 01:01:29,503
talked about wanting this, that

2575
01:01:29,503 --> 01:01:30,805
have shown interest in in

2576
01:01:30,805 --> 01:01:32,106
having this, um, being one of

2577
01:01:32,106 --> 01:01:32,807
our parks.

2578
01:01:32,807 --> 01:01:33,607
Um, not that I

2579
01:01:33,607 --> 01:01:34,410
m aware of. I

2580
01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:36,410
ve

2581
01:01:36,443 --> 01:01:37,978
not heard of any additional

2582
01:01:37,978 --> 01:01:39,847
community members reaching out.

2583
01:01:39,847 --> 01:01:41,182
I would say this, I believe in

2584
01:01:41,182 --> 01:01:44,182
those other three cities. It

2585
01:01:44,218 --> 01:01:46,186
was probably like a family or

2586
01:01:46,186 --> 01:01:49,186
two. So typically brought forth

2587
01:01:49,423 --> 01:01:51,793
by one group. Ok.

2588
01:01:51,793 --> 01:01:53,494
Uh, do we know, do we know what

2589
01:01:53,494 --> 01:01:55,162
that, uh

2590
01:01:55,162 --> 01:01:56,430
process would be like, uh,

2591
01:01:56,430 --> 01:01:57,898
working with the author on

2592
01:01:57,898 --> 01:01:59,934
changes and that kind of stuff.

2593
01:01:59,934 --> 01:02:01,469
Yeah, we would just put a

2594
01:02:01,469 --> 01:02:03,237
request in, um, to the actual

2595
01:02:03,237 --> 01:02:04,380
author to say we would have to

2596
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:06,807
create to make sure that it

2597
01:02:06,807 --> 01:02:08,275
said

2598
01:02:08,275 --> 01:02:09,744
um the Christmas box angel, and

2599
01:02:09,744 --> 01:02:09,910
then we would indicate what

2600
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:11,178
we

2601
01:02:11,178 --> 01:02:12,847
d like to say, and then we

2602
01:02:12,847 --> 01:02:15,490
would just wait on the response.

2603
01:02:15,490 --> 01:02:15,216
So for example, if we said, hey,

2604
01:02:15,216 --> 01:02:16,250
we

2605
01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:18,190
re interested in, we know

2606
01:02:18,190 --> 01:02:18,185
this statement had to be there.

2607
01:02:18,185 --> 01:02:20,185
We

2608
01:02:20,521 --> 01:02:21,555
d want to put this following

2609
01:02:21,555 --> 01:02:24,258
that, and that would either

2610
01:02:24,258 --> 01:02:26,227
come by way of partnering with

2611
01:02:26,227 --> 01:02:27,995
uh the donor or the community

2612
01:02:27,995 --> 01:02:29,464
member proposed this or it just

2613
01:02:29,464 --> 01:02:33,301
kind of what we decide as a

2614
01:02:33,301 --> 01:02:35,301
city or staff.

2615
01:02:35,836 --> 01:02:38,236
Other questions of Adam

2616
01:02:38,839 --> 01:02:41,709
Yeah, I guess, has the city

2617
01:02:41,709 --> 01:02:44,879
been in the process of like

2618
01:02:44,879 --> 01:02:46,781
working with foundations before

2619
01:02:46,781 --> 01:02:48,490
similar to what other cities

2620
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:50,218
did or is that going to be like

2621
01:02:50,218 --> 01:02:50,351
a new process, um.

2622
01:02:50,351 --> 01:02:52,351
I

2623
01:02:52,987 --> 01:02:54,121
m not aware of any community

2624
01:02:54,121 --> 01:02:55,256
foundations that the city of

2625
01:02:55,256 --> 01:02:57,158
Immrove Heights

2626
01:02:57,158 --> 01:02:59,260
um

2627
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:00,940
currently works with

2628
01:03:00,940 --> 01:03:01,620
Um, so I can

2629
01:03:01,620 --> 01:03:01,195
t say that I

2630
01:03:01,195 --> 01:03:02,463
m

2631
01:03:02,463 --> 01:03:04,332
familiar with anyone that we

2632
01:03:04,332 --> 01:03:06,332
would now

2633
01:03:06,768 --> 01:03:08,169
because other cities have

2634
01:03:08,169 --> 01:03:10,569
worked with either essentially

2635
01:03:10,638 --> 01:03:12,740
a nonprofit or a fundraising

2636
01:03:12,740 --> 01:03:13,740
arm of some 501c3 doesn

2637
01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:13,941
t

2638
01:03:13,941 --> 01:03:14,108
necessarily mean that that

2639
01:03:14,108 --> 01:03:15,109
s

2640
01:03:15,109 --> 01:03:15,610
what this process would look

2641
01:03:15,610 --> 01:03:16,878
like. So it

2642
01:03:16,878 --> 01:03:18,412
s not a requirement.

2643
01:03:18,412 --> 01:03:19,847
So for example, we could have a

2644
01:03:19,847 --> 01:03:22,784
private donor and just say, hey,

2645
01:03:22,784 --> 01:03:23,785
I would like to give $30,000 to

2646
01:03:23,785 --> 01:03:25,453
this particular project

2647
01:03:25,453 --> 01:03:27,355
unrelated to being a nonprofit

2648
01:03:27,355 --> 01:03:28,923
group. So we want

2649
01:03:28,923 --> 01:03:30,825
the city would not create a, a

2650
01:03:30,825 --> 01:03:32,560
foundation or request a

2651
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,280
foundation or nonprofit for the

2652
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,463
donation to come through.

2653
01:03:35,463 --> 01:03:36,931
The individual from the

2654
01:03:36,931 --> 01:03:39,331
community who actually brought

2655
01:03:39,367 --> 01:03:41,502
this to us mentioned that if

2656
01:03:41,502 --> 01:03:42,570
there is an approval to move

2657
01:03:42,570 --> 01:03:43,771
forward, you know, by the

2658
01:03:43,771 --> 01:03:46,140
council that they will be

2659
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:48,176
reaching out to, you know, do,

2660
01:03:48,176 --> 01:03:50,511
do a fundraising and, and

2661
01:03:50,511 --> 01:03:52,914
gather other people so that I

2662
01:03:52,914 --> 01:03:55,160
think waiting on that to see

2663
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:55,316
what develops in terms of, uh,

2664
01:03:55,316 --> 01:03:56,184
whether it

2665
01:03:56,184 --> 01:03:57,719
s a foundation or

2666
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,540
whether a bunch of individuals,

2667
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:02,540
but

2668
01:04:02,190 --> 01:04:02,957
first order is, I think I just

2669
01:04:02,957 --> 01:04:03,825
want to, is there any other

2670
01:04:03,825 --> 01:04:04,592
questions before we get into

2671
01:04:04,592 --> 01:04:06,461
action?

2672
01:04:06,461 --> 01:04:07,896
Uh, yeah, do we have any other

2673
01:04:07,896 --> 01:04:09,230
like

2674
01:04:09,230 --> 01:04:10,465
past projects that are similar

2675
01:04:10,465 --> 01:04:13,368
to this? Do we have any other

2676
01:04:13,368 --> 01:04:13,868
monuments? Do we have any like

2677
01:04:13,868 --> 01:04:14,769
different things that

2678
01:04:14,769 --> 01:04:16,538
s related

2679
01:04:16,538 --> 01:04:17,705
or would be a similar process.

2680
01:04:17,705 --> 01:04:19,107
Anything like that that we can

2681
01:04:19,107 --> 01:04:20,508
like kind of look back and be

2682
01:04:20,508 --> 01:04:23,912
like, this was a good idea.

2683
01:04:23,912 --> 01:04:25,130
This was not a good idea. Yeah,

2684
01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:26,381
Commissioner Johnson, the only

2685
01:04:26,381 --> 01:04:27,882
one thing I can point to is

2686
01:04:27,882 --> 01:04:28,950
what I comment on a little bit

2687
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:30,952
earlier at Heritage Village

2688
01:04:30,952 --> 01:04:33,221
Park, there is a monument for

2689
01:04:33,221 --> 01:04:34,856
kind of

2690
01:04:34,856 --> 01:04:36,291
um first responder kind of

2691
01:04:36,291 --> 01:04:37,892
covid related, uh, monument

2692
01:04:37,892 --> 01:04:39,661
that sits as you enter from the

2693
01:04:39,661 --> 01:04:41,280
parking lot on the west side

2694
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,664
that went through, we, we

2695
01:04:42,664 --> 01:04:44,766
created the body and the

2696
01:04:44,766 --> 01:04:46,668
council created a monument

2697
01:04:46,668 --> 01:04:48,636
memorial policy that required a

2698
01:04:48,636 --> 01:04:49,838
process and a pathway to donate

2699
01:04:49,838 --> 01:04:50,380
items like this, and that

2700
01:04:50,380 --> 01:04:51,139
s the

2701
01:04:51,139 --> 01:04:53,608
only thing I can really point

2702
01:04:53,608 --> 01:04:55,143
to, um, in that particular

2703
01:04:55,143 --> 01:04:57,145
monument was fully donated to

2704
01:04:57,145 --> 01:04:59,347
the city, so this body also

2705
01:04:59,347 --> 01:05:01,282
worked through at the time

2706
01:05:01,282 --> 01:05:01,883
placement, location, um, so

2707
01:05:01,883 --> 01:05:03,585
essentially once

2708
01:05:03,585 --> 01:05:05,520
it was donated, we now own it

2709
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:06,688
and inherit it, and we decide

2710
01:05:06,688 --> 01:05:08,690
what happens with it moving

2711
01:05:08,690 --> 01:05:10,525
forward. So there

2712
01:05:10,525 --> 01:05:11,526
s no ties to

2713
01:05:11,526 --> 01:05:11,759
us, for example, and I

2714
01:05:11,759 --> 01:05:12,927
m not

2715
01:05:12,927 --> 01:05:14,396
saying this would happen, if we

2716
01:05:14,396 --> 01:05:15,697
were to accept the actual

2717
01:05:15,697 --> 01:05:18,566
statute itself. We went through

2718
01:05:18,566 --> 01:05:19,167
that process. It was donated in

2719
01:05:19,167 --> 01:05:19,701
3 years we

2720
01:05:19,701 --> 01:05:21,169
re like, you know

2721
01:05:21,169 --> 01:05:22,904
what? I think this either

2722
01:05:22,904 --> 01:05:24,239
should be relocated or x, y,

2723
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:25,340
and z is happening. We can

2724
01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:26,541
remove it, we can upgrade it.

2725
01:05:26,541 --> 01:05:28,677
That would all be on behalf of

2726
01:05:28,677 --> 01:05:29,277
the city to do as they see fit.

2727
01:05:29,277 --> 01:05:29,844
And that

2728
01:05:29,844 --> 01:05:31,146
s part of the

2729
01:05:31,146 --> 01:05:33,515
advantage of going through the

2730
01:05:33,515 --> 01:05:35,183
process because that process

2731
01:05:35,183 --> 01:05:36,651
spells out that exact

2732
01:05:36,651 --> 01:05:37,852
expectation requirement if the

2733
01:05:37,852 --> 01:05:39,287
donation goes through.

2734
01:05:39,287 --> 01:05:40,622
And it would have to be

2735
01:05:40,622 --> 01:05:42,191
accepted and received by the

2736
01:05:42,191 --> 01:05:43,525
council but prior to that it

2737
01:05:43,525 --> 01:05:47,950
has to go through this body for

2738
01:05:47,950 --> 01:05:49,950
recommendation of approval.

2739
01:05:49,598 --> 01:05:51,998
Other questions? A lot,

2740
01:05:52,601 --> 01:05:54,169
apparently. Um, so if we move

2741
01:05:54,169 --> 01:05:57,169
forward and we recommend this

2742
01:05:57,439 --> 01:05:57,606
to the city, um.

2743
01:05:57,606 --> 01:05:59,606
You

2744
01:05:59,808 --> 01:06:01,910
re asking us to make

2745
01:06:01,910 --> 01:06:02,978
decisions.

2746
01:06:02,978 --> 01:06:03,545
Preemptively that I don

2747
01:06:03,545 --> 01:06:05,480
t see

2748
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:05,859
how we would make if we don

2749
01:06:05,859 --> 01:06:07,150
t

2750
01:06:07,150 --> 01:06:08,617
know if families want to

2751
01:06:08,617 --> 01:06:11,152
fundraise and do, you know, so

2752
01:06:11,152 --> 01:06:12,687
for us to say well we want it

2753
01:06:12,687 --> 01:06:13,555
publicly funded or privately or

2754
01:06:13,555 --> 01:06:14,890
a mix of we don

2755
01:06:14,890 --> 01:06:15,900
t know what our

2756
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:15,524
budget is and we don

2757
01:06:15,524 --> 01:06:17,524
t know who

2758
01:06:18,126 --> 01:06:18,994
wants to come for that seems

2759
01:06:18,994 --> 01:06:19,394
hard. It feels like we

2760
01:06:19,394 --> 01:06:20,295
re doing

2761
01:06:20,295 --> 01:06:21,963
this.

2762
01:06:21,963 --> 01:06:22,831
Not in the wrong order, but do

2763
01:06:22,831 --> 01:06:23,298
you understand what I

2764
01:06:23,298 --> 01:06:24,766
m saying?

2765
01:06:24,766 --> 01:06:26,368
Like I, I

2766
01:06:26,368 --> 01:06:28,768
m a little confused

2767
01:06:30,380 --> 01:06:31,673
why we would not just recommend

2768
01:06:31,673 --> 01:06:32,174
stop there I guess is my

2769
01:06:32,174 --> 01:06:32,708
question, and I

2770
01:06:32,708 --> 01:06:35,108
ll get to the

2771
01:06:35,377 --> 01:06:36,545
next slide. Ok, thank you. So,

2772
01:06:36,545 --> 01:06:38,780
to that point, there are

2773
01:06:38,780 --> 01:06:40,482
options for how you MAY want to

2774
01:06:40,482 --> 01:06:41,683
recommend this to council, ok?

2775
01:06:41,683 --> 01:06:41,883
So to those very things,

2776
01:06:41,883 --> 01:06:43,883
there

2777
01:06:43,985 --> 01:06:45,530
s so many things that are

2778
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:45,220
left undone and unsaid that I

2779
01:06:45,220 --> 01:06:47,220
don

2780
01:06:47,288 --> 01:06:47,822
t know if

2781
01:06:47,822 --> 01:06:49,822
one we

2782
01:06:50,259 --> 01:06:51,927
re in a position to look

2783
01:06:51,927 --> 01:06:52,995
at going to those next steps

2784
01:06:52,995 --> 01:06:54,596
without further approval

2785
01:06:54,596 --> 01:06:55,997
because there MAY be some

2786
01:06:55,997 --> 01:06:58,397
additional resources needed for

2787
01:06:58,567 --> 01:07:00,502
us to look at design. So if you

2788
01:07:00,502 --> 01:07:01,937
recommend ultimately that you

2789
01:07:01,937 --> 01:07:03,839
would support this particular

2790
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:05,400
monument in our park system is

2791
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,341
the first and foremost thing.

2792
01:07:06,341 --> 01:07:07,276
Could you see it in our system

2793
01:07:07,276 --> 01:07:07,843
somewhere? That

2794
01:07:07,843 --> 01:07:09,678
s the first

2795
01:07:09,678 --> 01:07:11,460
question. If you could see in

2796
01:07:11,460 --> 01:07:12,581
our system somewhere, you guys

2797
01:07:12,581 --> 01:07:14,650
as a body can recommend that to

2798
01:07:14,650 --> 01:07:15,984
council. Yes, we could see it.

2799
01:07:15,984 --> 01:07:16,418
Along with that, then we could

2800
01:07:16,418 --> 01:07:18,418
see it

2801
01:07:18,487 --> 01:07:20,155
Then we go to these three

2802
01:07:20,155 --> 01:07:22,155
points.

2803
01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:25,561
We could see it, we could see

2804
01:07:25,561 --> 01:07:26,962
it an option location a, b, c,

2805
01:07:26,962 --> 01:07:29,198
or d, or do you leave it up to

2806
01:07:29,198 --> 01:07:29,398
the council to determine.

2807
01:07:29,398 --> 01:07:29,965
That

2808
01:07:29,965 --> 01:07:31,400
s what you could send it

2809
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,403
with it. So it puts a little

2810
01:07:34,403 --> 01:07:35,938
bit more of the

2811
01:07:35,938 --> 01:07:37,940
decision-making ability on the

2812
01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:39,408
council if they decide to have

2813
01:07:39,408 --> 01:07:40,742
a final spot. But if this body

2814
01:07:40,742 --> 01:07:42,244
would like to give a

2815
01:07:42,244 --> 01:07:43,779
recommendation of a location,

2816
01:07:43,779 --> 01:07:44,913
you could do so. The second

2817
01:07:44,913 --> 01:07:45,114
part of that is, what

2818
01:07:45,114 --> 01:07:46,215
s the

2819
01:07:46,215 --> 01:07:47,750
general scope?

2820
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:49,785
Keep it little, keep it small,

2821
01:07:49,785 --> 01:07:51,687
keep it mid, be robust, be

2822
01:07:51,687 --> 01:07:54,687
elaborate, large, you name it,

2823
01:07:54,923 --> 01:07:56,492
or you give the recommendation

2824
01:07:56,492 --> 01:07:57,126
to also leave that up to the

2825
01:07:57,126 --> 01:07:57,793
council.

2826
01:07:57,793 --> 01:07:59,261
Third

2827
01:07:59,261 --> 01:08:01,300
how do you fund

2828
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:04,300
Do you give the recommendation

2829
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,901
Yes, we can see in our system

2830
01:08:05,901 --> 01:08:07,360
Well, we recommend Heritage

2831
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:08,804
Village Park

2832
01:08:08,804 --> 01:08:08,971
We feel like the general scope,

2833
01:08:08,971 --> 01:08:10,172
we

2834
01:08:10,172 --> 01:08:10,306
re not there yet. We

2835
01:08:10,306 --> 01:08:11,740
ll

2836
01:08:11,740 --> 01:08:13,609
leave that to some degree up to

2837
01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:14,276
the council because 2 is tied

2838
01:08:14,276 --> 01:08:14,510
with 3. How are we

2839
01:08:14,510 --> 01:08:16,245
re gonna

2840
01:08:16,245 --> 01:08:18,213
fund this project

2841
01:08:18,213 --> 01:08:19,648
And I think the council then

2842
01:08:19,648 --> 01:08:20,616
can help support or if this

2843
01:08:20,616 --> 01:08:22,885
body wants to give a

2844
01:08:22,885 --> 01:08:24,190
recommendation, you could say

2845
01:08:24,190 --> 01:08:25,321
we think that we leave this up

2846
01:08:25,321 --> 01:08:26,855
to the council to figure out

2847
01:08:26,855 --> 01:08:27,220
how to fund because we can

2848
01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:27,256
t,

2849
01:08:27,256 --> 01:08:28,857
we don

2850
01:08:28,857 --> 01:08:30,693
t want to give a

2851
01:08:30,693 --> 01:08:32,127
recommendation how to fund it.

2852
01:08:32,127 --> 01:08:33,929
Or you could say, you know what,

2853
01:08:33,929 --> 01:08:35,300
I think this be the, the Pratt

2854
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:36,650
could say, I believe this

2855
01:08:36,650 --> 01:08:37,660
should be fully funded

2856
01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:39,660
privately.

2857
01:08:39,101 --> 01:08:40,469
And that no city dollar should

2858
01:08:40,469 --> 01:08:42,438
be allocated toward this. You

2859
01:08:42,438 --> 01:08:43,739
can give that recommendation.

2860
01:08:43,739 --> 01:08:44,773
So first and foremost, can you

2861
01:08:44,773 --> 01:08:46,341
see it in our system?

2862
01:08:46,341 --> 01:08:46,542
If you can

2863
01:08:46,542 --> 01:08:48,542
that

2864
01:08:48,877 --> 01:08:52,477
s kind of the first, well

2865
01:08:53,449 --> 01:08:54,550
Secondly, is what additional um

2866
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:55,351
recommendations in these three

2867
01:08:55,351 --> 01:08:56,352
categories would you like to

2868
01:08:56,352 --> 01:08:56,919
give?

2869
01:08:56,919 --> 01:08:58,287
So that

2870
01:08:58,287 --> 01:08:58,554
s kind of to your point,

2871
01:08:58,554 --> 01:08:59,722
yes, it

2872
01:08:59,722 --> 01:09:01,190
s hard to see through

2873
01:09:01,190 --> 01:09:01,891
the woods right now, and I

2874
01:09:01,891 --> 01:09:02,191
totally get it. But I don

2875
01:09:02,191 --> 01:09:03,726
t

2876
01:09:03,726 --> 01:09:05,494
know if we can get to that next

2877
01:09:05,494 --> 01:09:07,620
step to even come back in some

2878
01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:07,263
way, shape or form.

2879
01:09:07,263 --> 01:09:08,531
If it

2880
01:09:08,531 --> 01:09:09,765
s donated, it has to come

2881
01:09:09,765 --> 01:09:09,899
back to this body anyway. And

2882
01:09:09,899 --> 01:09:11,899
I

2883
01:09:11,934 --> 01:09:13,200
ll say this

2884
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:14,303
ultimately as well, is

2885
01:09:14,303 --> 01:09:15,137
depending on what this body

2886
01:09:15,137 --> 01:09:16,605
does.

2887
01:09:16,605 --> 01:09:17,640
Um, and whether you say, you

2888
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:17,773
know what, either a, we

2889
01:09:17,773 --> 01:09:18,674
re

2890
01:09:18,674 --> 01:09:19,608
gonna die because we don

2891
01:09:19,608 --> 01:09:21,608
t feel

2892
01:09:29,285 --> 01:09:31,187
like and go to that next

2893
01:09:31,187 --> 01:09:33,155
step and to some degree bypass

2894
01:09:33,155 --> 01:09:36,580
this, not that the individual

2895
01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:36,959
would, but they depend on the

2896
01:09:36,959 --> 01:09:38,294
timing and fundraising

2897
01:09:38,294 --> 01:09:39,328
opportunities, all those things

2898
01:09:39,328 --> 01:09:39,929
matter, so I don

2899
01:09:39,929 --> 01:09:41,430
t know if that

2900
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:42,732
fully answers your question,

2901
01:09:42,732 --> 01:09:44,233
but it does support kind of

2902
01:09:44,233 --> 01:09:45,734
like we can send a

2903
01:09:45,734 --> 01:09:45,968
recommendation with

2904
01:09:45,968 --> 01:09:47,700
I won

2905
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:49,470
t say caveats, but

2906
01:09:49,572 --> 01:09:51,572
additional recommendations.

2907
01:09:52,410 --> 01:09:53,442
Ok

2908
01:09:53,442 --> 01:09:55,842
Any other questions? Anything

2909
01:09:56,679 --> 01:09:58,214
else you want to say, Adam? Ok.

2910
01:09:58,214 --> 01:09:58,881
I think the first

2911
01:09:58,881 --> 01:09:59,181
was there another question? I

2912
01:09:59,181 --> 01:10:00,650
m

2913
01:10:00,650 --> 01:10:01,918
just going to say the first

2914
01:10:01,918 --> 01:10:03,520
question is really what we need

2915
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:04,530
to look at first. Do you want

2916
01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:04,220
that in separate motions? No, I

2917
01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:06,220
don

2918
01:10:06,220 --> 01:10:08,230
t know if we have to, well,

2919
01:10:08,230 --> 01:10:09,926
yes, well, yeah, we could. I

2920
01:10:09,926 --> 01:10:10,359
would, I would say I want no, I

2921
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:11,828
don

2922
01:10:11,828 --> 01:10:12,895
t know if a motion

2923
01:10:12,895 --> 01:10:16,666
I think a motion should be at

2924
01:10:16,666 --> 01:10:18,301
the, at the very end.

2925
01:10:18,301 --> 01:10:20,202
Can you put the next screen

2926
01:10:20,202 --> 01:10:22,438
back up? Thank you.

2927
01:10:22,438 --> 01:10:23,172
I guess just, uh, let

2928
01:10:23,172 --> 01:10:25,172
s see, I,

2929
01:10:25,308 --> 01:10:28,311
I guess my, my feeling is that

2930
01:10:28,311 --> 01:10:28,544
we, you know, we decide yes or

2931
01:10:28,544 --> 01:10:30,313
no, we

2932
01:10:30,313 --> 01:10:32,448
re going to endorse the

2933
01:10:32,448 --> 01:10:35,485
idea and then we leave the

2934
01:10:35,485 --> 01:10:38,621
other parts up to the council,

2935
01:10:38,621 --> 01:10:40,323
uh, location, scope.

2936
01:10:40,323 --> 01:10:41,230
Potential funding sources, um,

2937
01:10:41,230 --> 01:10:41,157
you know, if there

2938
01:10:41,157 --> 01:10:42,592
s

2939
01:10:42,592 --> 01:10:44,260
disagreement about that, if you

2940
01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:45,695
want, so I, I thought we were

2941
01:10:45,695 --> 01:10:45,962
going to vote first on whether

2942
01:10:45,962 --> 01:10:46,996
we, that

2943
01:10:46,996 --> 01:10:48,996
s fine.

2944
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,433
You change? No, I mean, that

2945
01:10:50,433 --> 01:10:54,700
either way, I think you have to

2946
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:55,710
vote in a way of accepting the

2947
01:10:55,710 --> 01:10:55,905
proposal of an idea to

2948
01:10:55,905 --> 01:10:56,380
recommend to council. That

2949
01:10:56,380 --> 01:10:58,380
s

2950
01:10:58,207 --> 01:10:59,509
first and foremost. And then I

2951
01:10:59,509 --> 01:11:00,343
think secondary is along that

2952
01:11:00,343 --> 01:11:00,610
recommendation, here

2953
01:11:00,610 --> 01:11:00,777
s what

2954
01:11:00,777 --> 01:11:02,112
we

2955
01:11:02,112 --> 01:11:02,812
d like to see as additional

2956
01:11:02,812 --> 01:11:04,460
recommendations. I

2957
01:11:04,460 --> 01:11:06,460
d like to

2958
01:11:06,949 --> 01:11:10,119
move that we endorse the idea

2959
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:12,322
of the of uh having an angel

2960
01:11:12,322 --> 01:11:15,859
Hope memorial, uh, as part of

2961
01:11:15,859 --> 01:11:20,590
our park system and that we, um,

2962
01:11:21,531 --> 01:11:24,100
uh, do not pick a preferred

2963
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,602
location or scope or funding.

2964
01:11:25,602 --> 01:11:26,703
Uh, we leave those who leave

2965
01:11:26,703 --> 01:11:28,538
those up to the council. So

2966
01:11:28,538 --> 01:11:31,700
that would be my, uh, I move

2967
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:32,442
that. Is there a second to that?

2968
01:11:32,442 --> 01:11:33,900
No, I, I

2969
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:34,444
d like to discuss a

2970
01:11:34,444 --> 01:11:35,712
little bit more. Yeah, I feel

2971
01:11:35,712 --> 01:11:37,280
like I feel like if we could

2972
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:37,814
just like go around and kind of,

2973
01:11:37,814 --> 01:11:38,347
I don

2974
01:11:38,347 --> 01:11:39,215
t know, see where

2975
01:11:39,215 --> 01:11:40,583
everyone is. I thought we

2976
01:11:40,583 --> 01:11:42,518
should get a motion on the

2977
01:11:42,518 --> 01:11:44,954
table and then we could discuss

2978
01:11:44,954 --> 01:11:45,121
more, I guess it feels like

2979
01:11:45,121 --> 01:11:47,121
we

2980
01:11:47,490 --> 01:11:48,691
re otherwise. Is everyone

2981
01:11:48,691 --> 01:11:50,226
feeling like they want to go

2982
01:11:50,226 --> 01:11:52,228
forward with this. I mean, can

2983
01:11:52,228 --> 01:11:52,595
we at least the motion at this

2984
01:11:52,595 --> 01:11:53,229
well, but you

2985
01:11:53,229 --> 01:11:53,763
re attacking on

2986
01:11:53,763 --> 01:11:54,664
that you don

2987
01:11:54,664 --> 01:11:55,298
t want to

2988
01:11:55,298 --> 01:11:55,632
recommend anything, and I

2989
01:11:55,632 --> 01:11:56,833
m

2990
01:11:56,833 --> 01:11:57,601
saying I think that we don

2991
01:11:57,601 --> 01:11:59,601
t

2992
01:11:59,669 --> 01:12:00,136
all agree to that. That

2993
01:12:00,136 --> 01:12:01,805
s all.

2994
01:12:01,805 --> 01:12:03,440
Yeah, I agree with that.

2995
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:04,774
Feel like, you know, just, just

2996
01:12:04,774 --> 01:12:06,810
for me, I could definitely see

2997
01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:07,100
it in our system. I think

2998
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:08,278
there

2999
01:12:08,278 --> 01:12:08,645
s like some good stuff

3000
01:12:08,645 --> 01:12:09,713
here.

3001
01:12:09,713 --> 01:12:11,214
But

3002
01:12:11,214 --> 01:12:11,481
like, you know, if I

3003
01:12:11,481 --> 01:12:12,782
m looking

3004
01:12:12,782 --> 01:12:14,782
at like I

3005
01:12:15,552 --> 01:12:16,921
you know, I would, I would be

3006
01:12:16,921 --> 01:12:18,788
interested in like, sending it

3007
01:12:18,788 --> 01:12:20,290
off and saying like this group,

3008
01:12:20,290 --> 01:12:21,257
this person who has said and

3009
01:12:21,257 --> 01:12:22,725
brought it up and said that

3010
01:12:22,725 --> 01:12:24,194
they would call and like bring

3011
01:12:24,194 --> 01:12:26,529
in donations and that kind of

3012
01:12:26,529 --> 01:12:28,965
stuff, that they would start

3013
01:12:28,965 --> 01:12:29,366
that process early.

3014
01:12:29,366 --> 01:12:30,433
See if there

3015
01:12:30,433 --> 01:12:30,900
s any interest, if

3016
01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:31,968
there

3017
01:12:31,968 --> 01:12:32,535
s any money like that

3018
01:12:32,535 --> 01:12:32,852
kind of stuff. So that

3019
01:12:32,852 --> 01:12:33,136
s kind

3020
01:12:33,136 --> 01:12:33,970
of where I

3021
01:12:33,970 --> 01:12:34,104
m at, where it

3022
01:12:34,104 --> 01:12:34,971
s

3023
01:12:34,971 --> 01:12:35,338
like, you know, I don

3024
01:12:35,338 --> 01:12:35,505
t, I

3025
01:12:35,505 --> 01:12:36,940
don

3026
01:12:36,940 --> 01:12:39,800
t feel like it should all

3027
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,800
fall on

3028
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,513
the city, the rack, like all

3029
01:12:43,513 --> 01:12:44,800
that kind of stuff, so I don

3030
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:45,782
t

3031
01:12:45,782 --> 01:12:46,349
and once the city

3032
01:12:46,349 --> 01:12:47,851
once it

3033
01:12:47,851 --> 01:12:48,318
s in, it

3034
01:12:48,318 --> 01:12:48,818
s the city

3035
01:12:48,818 --> 01:12:49,986
s

3036
01:12:49,986 --> 01:12:51,540
responsibility, so I

3037
01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:52,222
m

3038
01:12:52,222 --> 01:12:53,590
more concerned with the

3039
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:55,125
maintenance part of it and

3040
01:12:55,125 --> 01:12:57,270
where does it make the most

3041
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:57,627
sense for the least amount, you

3042
01:12:57,627 --> 01:12:58,561
know, that

3043
01:12:58,561 --> 01:12:59,563
s a, that

3044
01:12:59,563 --> 01:12:59,896
s what I

3045
01:12:59,896 --> 01:13:01,365
m

3046
01:13:01,365 --> 01:13:02,899
interested in discussing and

3047
01:13:02,899 --> 01:13:04,134
finding more about finding out

3048
01:13:04,134 --> 01:13:05,101
more about, so

3049
01:13:05,101 --> 01:13:06,136
And for me, it

3050
01:13:06,136 --> 01:13:08,438
s a little bit,

3051
01:13:08,438 --> 01:13:09,720
you know, of these three places,

3052
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:09,973
I think where I

3053
01:13:09,973 --> 01:13:11,174
m concerned is,

3054
01:13:11,174 --> 01:13:11,808
you know, with Heritage Village

3055
01:13:11,808 --> 01:13:12,809
Park, because there

3056
01:13:12,809 --> 01:13:14,809
s just not

3057
01:13:15,712 --> 01:13:19,349
a lot of tree space, it still

3058
01:13:19,349 --> 01:13:19,582
is pretty open, um, and like,

3059
01:13:19,582 --> 01:13:20,317
no, it

3060
01:13:20,317 --> 01:13:22,552
s not the first thing

3061
01:13:22,552 --> 01:13:25,455
you see, but I also like see

3062
01:13:25,455 --> 01:13:25,655
coming in and, you know, if

3063
01:13:25,655 --> 01:13:27,655
there

3064
01:13:27,724 --> 01:13:29,593
s a group of people on

3065
01:13:29,593 --> 01:13:31,261
the evening that are on the 7th

3066
01:13:31,261 --> 01:13:32,229
or 6th, whenever it is, a lot

3067
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:33,497
of kids that are maybe playing

3068
01:13:33,497 --> 01:13:34,197
at the park are just going to

3069
01:13:34,197 --> 01:13:35,399
see that, right? I

3070
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:37,467
I like the idea of some privacy

3071
01:13:37,467 --> 01:13:38,969
and it being sort of its own

3072
01:13:38,969 --> 01:13:40,403
sacred space. What I almost

3073
01:13:40,403 --> 01:13:40,971
wonder is if we

3074
01:13:40,971 --> 01:13:42,506
re still

3075
01:13:42,506 --> 01:13:43,373
looking at Northwest area Park

3076
01:13:43,373 --> 01:13:44,741
development, which seems to

3077
01:13:44,741 --> 01:13:47,811
have a lot more foliage, a lot

3078
01:13:47,811 --> 01:13:49,811
more trees.

3079
01:13:50,747 --> 01:13:52,382
If we almost like give the

3080
01:13:52,382 --> 01:13:54,150
group time to fundraise with

3081
01:13:54,150 --> 01:13:55,252
the idea of like when we

3082
01:13:55,252 --> 01:13:56,860
purchase something or if we

3083
01:13:56,860 --> 01:13:58,860
purchase something for

3084
01:13:58,422 --> 01:14:00,157
Northwest Area Park, trying to

3085
01:14:00,157 --> 01:14:01,191
merge those things together.

3086
01:14:01,191 --> 01:14:01,692
Um, but I know that

3087
01:14:01,692 --> 01:14:02,920
s, that

3088
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,920
s

3089
01:14:04,528 --> 01:14:05,963
adding a place that, that, you

3090
01:14:05,963 --> 01:14:07,197
know, is not on a preferred

3091
01:14:07,197 --> 01:14:08,865
park location. I mean, of the,

3092
01:14:08,865 --> 01:14:10,801
of the three places, I would

3093
01:14:10,801 --> 01:14:12,569
say, it seems like Salem is

3094
01:14:12,569 --> 01:14:14,605
probably offering the most

3095
01:14:14,605 --> 01:14:16,605
privacy, um

3096
01:14:16,773 --> 01:14:18,242
just because I, moving forward,

3097
01:14:18,242 --> 01:14:19,676
I remember how mad people were

3098
01:14:19,676 --> 01:14:20,978
about the lights of swing

3099
01:14:20,978 --> 01:14:21,912
bridge and the money that went

3100
01:14:21,912 --> 01:14:22,112
on those lights, and that

3101
01:14:22,112 --> 01:14:23,146
wasn

3102
01:14:23,146 --> 01:14:24,982
t even our money, it was

3103
01:14:24,982 --> 01:14:26,416
grant money and people like

3104
01:14:26,416 --> 01:14:29,416
lost their minds online about

3105
01:14:31,288 --> 01:14:33,688
that. And so $175,000 or

3106
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:34,825
$225,000 even if, you know, it

3107
01:14:34,825 --> 01:14:36,126
goes to the council, it kind of

3108
01:14:36,126 --> 01:14:36,994
goes to us first. I want to

3109
01:14:36,994 --> 01:14:37,628
make sure that we

3110
01:14:37,628 --> 01:14:38,896
re not

3111
01:14:38,896 --> 01:14:39,396
necessarily just

3112
01:14:39,396 --> 01:14:39,663
I mean, I guess we

3113
01:14:39,663 --> 01:14:40,998
re not

3114
01:14:40,998 --> 01:14:43,233
writing the check, check for

3115
01:14:43,233 --> 01:14:45,269
that at this level, but I also

3116
01:14:45,269 --> 01:14:46,803
think if other communities have

3117
01:14:46,803 --> 01:14:47,905
offered money for it and

3118
01:14:47,905 --> 01:14:48,739
fundraised money for it, I

3119
01:14:48,739 --> 01:14:49,540
think, I think it

3120
01:14:49,540 --> 01:14:51,275
s important

3121
01:14:51,275 --> 01:14:53,100
to attach that to, to what our

3122
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:53,811
decision is, but

3123
01:14:53,811 --> 01:14:54,578
I just, I, I don

3124
01:14:54,578 --> 01:14:56,790
t know, am I

3125
01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:56,513
alone here? I, I don

3126
01:14:56,513 --> 01:14:57,481
t,

3127
01:14:57,481 --> 01:14:58,882
Heritage Village Park for

3128
01:14:58,882 --> 01:15:00,317
whatever reason, makes me a

3129
01:15:00,317 --> 01:15:02,317
little bit uncomfortable

3130
01:15:02,986 --> 01:15:03,887
because of how open it is, um,

3131
01:15:03,887 --> 01:15:05,389
both for people that are going

3132
01:15:05,389 --> 01:15:07,491
to experience it and for people

3133
01:15:07,491 --> 01:15:08,920
at the park.

3134
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:08,959
I mean, you

3135
01:15:08,959 --> 01:15:11,359
re that much closer

3136
01:15:11,495 --> 01:15:11,929
to the gun range, and I can

3137
01:15:11,929 --> 01:15:13,463
t

3138
01:15:13,463 --> 01:15:15,320
imagine somebody who lost a

3139
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,767
child to something that happens

3140
01:15:16,767 --> 01:15:18,869
every day in this country now,

3141
01:15:18,869 --> 01:15:21,500
is going to want to hear that.

3142
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:22,172
That seems a little

3143
01:15:22,172 --> 01:15:22,973
short-sighted, so I

3144
01:15:22,973 --> 01:15:24,973
m glad that

3145
01:15:25,420 --> 01:15:27,244
you even brought that up. Um,

3146
01:15:27,244 --> 01:15:29,446
my thought right now is that

3147
01:15:29,446 --> 01:15:32,382
we have a lot more to discuss.

3148
01:15:32,382 --> 01:15:33,517
Like this feels like

3149
01:15:33,517 --> 01:15:34,985
are we all on board that we

3150
01:15:34,985 --> 01:15:36,860
would want them to go forward

3151
01:15:36,860 --> 01:15:37,888
and and

3152
01:15:37,888 --> 01:15:39,423
you know

3153
01:15:39,423 --> 01:15:39,623
I mean we had a work session. I

3154
01:15:39,623 --> 01:15:40,524
wasn

3155
01:15:40,524 --> 01:15:43,427
t able to come to the work

3156
01:15:43,427 --> 01:15:44,940
session, but um

3157
01:15:44,940 --> 01:15:44,995
you know, it

3158
01:15:44,995 --> 01:15:46,995
s

3159
01:15:47,432 --> 01:15:49,867
well, it sounds like from the

3160
01:15:49,867 --> 01:15:52,267
comments from everyone, like

3161
01:15:53,804 --> 01:15:55,439
the idea is great, like you are

3162
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,807
obviously, if you were in that

3163
01:15:56,807 --> 01:15:56,974
position, uh, hopefully no

3164
01:15:56,974 --> 01:15:58,974
one

3165
01:15:59,109 --> 01:16:00,578
s in that position here,

3166
01:16:00,578 --> 01:16:01,110
but you understand why it

3167
01:16:01,110 --> 01:16:02,379
s so

3168
01:16:02,379 --> 01:16:04,415
meaningful, but the question

3169
01:16:04,415 --> 01:16:06,250
that we need to answer here

3170
01:16:06,250 --> 01:16:07,885
right now is do we sit in our

3171
01:16:07,885 --> 01:16:08,285
system and from what I

3172
01:16:08,285 --> 01:16:10,285
m

3173
01:16:11,221 --> 01:16:13,724
hearing from everyone is, no,

3174
01:16:13,724 --> 01:16:14,124
like this locations maybe

3175
01:16:14,124 --> 01:16:15,192
others won

3176
01:16:15,192 --> 01:16:15,392
t come, it won

3177
01:16:15,392 --> 01:16:15,993
t be

3178
01:16:15,993 --> 01:16:16,627
the right place

3179
01:16:16,627 --> 01:16:17,228
We don

3180
01:16:17,228 --> 01:16:17,928
t know anything about

3181
01:16:17,928 --> 01:16:18,262
the funding, so that

3182
01:16:18,262 --> 01:16:18,529
s also

3183
01:16:18,529 --> 01:16:19,263
like it

3184
01:16:19,263 --> 01:16:20,364
s not part of the

3185
01:16:20,364 --> 01:16:20,831
system because we didn

3186
01:16:20,831 --> 01:16:22,831
t think

3187
01:16:24,702 --> 01:16:25,236
about it, um

3188
01:16:25,236 --> 01:16:26,437
so I

3189
01:16:26,437 --> 01:16:26,704
m just interpreting

3190
01:16:26,704 --> 01:16:27,638
everyone

3191
01:16:27,638 --> 01:16:30,740
s comments and I say

3192
01:16:30,740 --> 01:16:30,875
like at least at this time, the

3193
01:16:30,875 --> 01:16:31,442
2025, we don

3194
01:16:31,442 --> 01:16:32,900
t see it in the

3195
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:32,743
system.

3196
01:16:32,743 --> 01:16:33,410
Not because we don

3197
01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:33,577
t want it.

3198
01:16:33,577 --> 01:16:34,545
It

3199
01:16:34,545 --> 01:16:34,845
s just like it doesn

3200
01:16:34,845 --> 01:16:36,845
t make

3201
01:16:36,981 --> 01:16:38,820
sense right now.

3202
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:38,616
I and we also, we

3203
01:16:38,616 --> 01:16:40,840
re missing

3204
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:40,284
three council members, and I

3205
01:16:40,284 --> 01:16:41,385
m

3206
01:16:41,385 --> 01:16:42,520
really curious about their

3207
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,320
opinions on this as well. I

3208
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,121
mean, I

3209
01:16:44,121 --> 01:16:45,289
I, where I

3210
01:16:45,289 --> 01:16:46,857
m at is I would like

3211
01:16:46,857 --> 01:16:48,392
to maybe table this for a month

3212
01:16:48,392 --> 01:16:49,293
so I can sort of gather more

3213
01:16:49,293 --> 01:16:50,361
information and think about it,

3214
01:16:50,361 --> 01:16:52,563
and then we had a work session,

3215
01:16:52,563 --> 01:16:53,798
but hear from some of the other

3216
01:16:53,798 --> 01:16:56,934
council or heard from some of

3217
01:16:56,934 --> 01:16:59,300
the other rack, um, Cody many

3218
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:01,403
committee members, and then

3219
01:17:01,505 --> 01:17:02,773
also maybe explore like what it

3220
01:17:02,773 --> 01:17:04,642
would, what would it look like

3221
01:17:04,642 --> 01:17:05,710
if we tried to attach something

3222
01:17:05,710 --> 01:17:07,780
like this to Northwestern area

3223
01:17:07,780 --> 01:17:08,245
Park, where it would make sense

3224
01:17:08,245 --> 01:17:08,579
with some of the landscaping

3225
01:17:08,579 --> 01:17:10,810
that

3226
01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:11,649
s there to create privacy

3227
01:17:11,649 --> 01:17:13,384
and to create space because

3228
01:17:13,384 --> 01:17:13,618
they do think what, what we can

3229
01:17:13,618 --> 01:17:15,319
offer

3230
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:17,254
is we can offer space, we can

3231
01:17:17,254 --> 01:17:17,755
offer some in-house landscaping,

3232
01:17:17,755 --> 01:17:18,556
um, and if we

3233
01:17:18,556 --> 01:17:20,124
re already sort

3234
01:17:20,124 --> 01:17:21,726
of going to

3235
01:17:21,726 --> 01:17:23,930
acquire that kind of space, we

3236
01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:24,762
can intentionally put it in a

3237
01:17:24,762 --> 01:17:25,897
place where there will be easy

3238
01:17:25,897 --> 01:17:27,398
access to plumbing, where there

3239
01:17:27,398 --> 01:17:28,299
would be easy access to

3240
01:17:28,299 --> 01:17:29,767
electricity. It doesn

3241
01:17:29,767 --> 01:17:31,235
t seem

3242
01:17:31,235 --> 01:17:32,737
like that is necessarily the

3243
01:17:32,737 --> 01:17:35,640
case right now with, with all

3244
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,208
of these spaces.

3245
01:17:37,208 --> 01:17:38,709
Ok, so maybe that

3246
01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:40,709
s a better

3247
01:17:41,946 --> 01:17:44,315
place and maybe the council

3248
01:17:44,315 --> 01:17:46,784
could like like approve moving

3249
01:17:46,784 --> 01:17:48,820
forward for future plan.

3250
01:17:48,820 --> 01:17:48,953
So in this case, yeah, we don

3251
01:17:48,953 --> 01:17:50,255
t

3252
01:17:50,255 --> 01:17:50,388
approve a location we don

3253
01:17:50,388 --> 01:17:51,722
t

3254
01:17:51,722 --> 01:17:51,856
approve a size, we don

3255
01:17:51,856 --> 01:17:53,157
t

3256
01:17:53,157 --> 01:17:53,391
approve like a budget. It

3257
01:17:53,391 --> 01:17:54,158
s

3258
01:17:54,158 --> 01:17:55,426
commissioners, can I make a

3259
01:17:55,426 --> 01:17:56,930
couple of comments in regard to

3260
01:17:56,930 --> 01:17:56,227
some of the comments you

3261
01:17:56,227 --> 01:17:58,290
ve

3262
01:17:58,290 --> 01:17:59,897
made. First and foremost in the

3263
01:17:59,897 --> 01:18:01,999
northwest area. None of that

3264
01:18:01,999 --> 01:18:03,367
land is guaranteed. And

3265
01:18:03,367 --> 01:18:04,535
ultimately

3266
01:18:04,535 --> 01:18:06,300
currently as it stands, we are

3267
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:07,171
more moving in a direction. We

3268
01:18:07,171 --> 01:18:08,439
will get land based on

3269
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,241
development. So when you look

3270
01:18:10,241 --> 01:18:11,409
at based on development in the

3271
01:18:11,409 --> 01:18:12,276
Northwest area given the

3272
01:18:12,276 --> 01:18:13,311
topography, you

3273
01:18:13,311 --> 01:18:15,113
re not getting

3274
01:18:15,113 --> 01:18:16,881
a robust community level sized

3275
01:18:16,881 --> 01:18:18,349
park. So then they try to fit

3276
01:18:18,349 --> 01:18:20,840
something like this into that

3277
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:20,251
space, um, into a space that

3278
01:18:20,251 --> 01:18:21,853
you

3279
01:18:21,853 --> 01:18:24,253
re not getting that

3280
01:18:24,522 --> 01:18:25,523
fruitful 15 to 20 acres MAY not

3281
01:18:25,523 --> 01:18:27,625
be a possibility, and if it is,

3282
01:18:27,625 --> 01:18:29,270
it MAY not be 5,, 1015 years on

3283
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:29,894
the road. If we look at land

3284
01:18:29,894 --> 01:18:30,361
acquisition, which we

3285
01:18:30,361 --> 01:18:31,496
re

3286
01:18:31,496 --> 01:18:32,497
currently working through, um,

3287
01:18:32,497 --> 01:18:33,464
which MAY or MAY not come to

3288
01:18:33,464 --> 01:18:35,233
fruition

3289
01:18:35,233 --> 01:18:36,301
You, you still MAY not have a

3290
01:18:36,301 --> 01:18:36,968
suitable space in the northwest

3291
01:18:36,968 --> 01:18:37,435
area. So that

3292
01:18:37,435 --> 01:18:38,870
s just a couple

3293
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:40,371
of comments regarding that, not

3294
01:18:40,371 --> 01:18:41,773
to say that part of the

3295
01:18:41,773 --> 01:18:43,241
preferred park location is

3296
01:18:43,241 --> 01:18:45,443
other. Can you consider this to

3297
01:18:45,443 --> 01:18:47,111
be in a future Northwest area

3298
01:18:47,111 --> 01:18:48,846
Park. You, we, we could say

3299
01:18:48,846 --> 01:18:49,881
that within

3300
01:18:49,881 --> 01:18:50,480
the recommendation. So you

3301
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:51,783
don

3302
01:18:51,783 --> 01:18:53,351
t have to be stuck on these

3303
01:18:53,351 --> 01:18:55,190
3. This is just what was

3304
01:18:55,190 --> 01:18:56,487
discussed at the work session.

3305
01:18:56,487 --> 01:18:58,889
Ok, so where we had a little

3306
01:18:58,889 --> 01:19:00,491
bit more in-depth details and

3307
01:19:00,491 --> 01:19:02,491
conversations regarding this

3308
01:19:02,727 --> 01:19:04,729
particular topic. Um, so

3309
01:19:04,729 --> 01:19:05,997
when you leave it to these

3310
01:19:05,997 --> 01:19:07,499
ultimate items, uh, when you

3311
01:19:07,499 --> 01:19:09,801
think about preferred location,

3312
01:19:09,801 --> 01:19:11,336
scope, funding

3313
01:19:11,336 --> 01:19:12,504
you can give recommendations

3314
01:19:12,504 --> 01:19:13,204
but ultimately the council has

3315
01:19:13,204 --> 01:19:13,438
to determine how they

3316
01:19:13,438 --> 01:19:15,273
re going

3317
01:19:15,273 --> 01:19:16,740
to do those things. So again,

3318
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:17,208
not to say that we can

3319
01:19:17,208 --> 01:19:19,208
t table

3320
01:19:19,544 --> 01:19:21,946
this pause it for additional

3321
01:19:21,946 --> 01:19:23,470
information. I guess if we

3322
01:19:23,470 --> 01:19:23,281
wanted additional information,

3323
01:19:23,281 --> 01:19:24,282
I don

3324
01:19:24,282 --> 01:19:26,317
t know exactly at what

3325
01:19:26,317 --> 01:19:27,520
point in time what additional

3326
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:27,318
fish information you

3327
01:19:27,318 --> 01:19:28,386
re looking

3328
01:19:28,386 --> 01:19:29,788
for because if we

3329
01:19:29,788 --> 01:19:31,222
re looking at

3330
01:19:31,222 --> 01:19:33,692
cost estimates, I would have to

3331
01:19:33,692 --> 01:19:35,260
go to council and say, I need

3332
01:19:35,260 --> 01:19:36,270
additional costs to get a

3333
01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:37,262
landscape architect and

3334
01:19:37,262 --> 01:19:38,663
designer to cost estimate what

3335
01:19:38,663 --> 01:19:39,431
the space will look like.

3336
01:19:39,431 --> 01:19:39,831
Ultimately this would have to

3337
01:19:39,831 --> 01:19:41,733
come back

3338
01:19:41,733 --> 01:19:42,300
and say, well, for what? And

3339
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:43,735
then we

3340
01:19:43,735 --> 01:19:43,968
d like for this, but

3341
01:19:43,968 --> 01:19:44,502
nothing

3342
01:19:44,502 --> 01:19:46,738
s been recommended, and

3343
01:19:46,738 --> 01:19:49,240
we can definitely do that, um,

3344
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:50,475
but I just wanna try to

3345
01:19:50,475 --> 01:19:52,544
what additional information are

3346
01:19:52,544 --> 01:19:55,113
we looking for that I can maybe

3347
01:19:55,113 --> 01:19:55,547
support and respond to now, um.

3348
01:19:55,547 --> 01:19:57,547
And that

3349
01:19:57,582 --> 01:19:59,840
s why I kind of left

3350
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,919
these actions open any degree

3351
01:20:00,919 --> 01:20:02,186
because I think 2 and 3 are

3352
01:20:02,186 --> 01:20:02,320
very closely related. If you

3353
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,388
re

3354
01:20:03,388 --> 01:20:03,555
trying to fund the project, you

3355
01:20:03,555 --> 01:20:04,356
don

3356
01:20:04,356 --> 01:20:04,622
t know what you

3357
01:20:04,622 --> 01:20:05,323
re funding

3358
01:20:05,323 --> 01:20:06,658
yet. So if there

3359
01:20:06,658 --> 01:20:08,159
s a scope in

3360
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,194
and nature in which the council

3361
01:20:09,194 --> 01:20:10,562
is either comfortable with or

3362
01:20:10,562 --> 01:20:12,197
not. You MAY very well

3363
01:20:12,197 --> 01:20:13,565
recommend this to council, and

3364
01:20:13,565 --> 01:20:15,600
they MAY very well deny it.

3365
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,968
Ok, or they MAY accept it and

3366
01:20:16,968 --> 01:20:18,537
sit on it for a while, and they

3367
01:20:18,537 --> 01:20:19,738
MAY look at, can we fit into

3368
01:20:19,738 --> 01:20:19,971
our future Northwest Air Park.

3369
01:20:19,971 --> 01:20:20,873
How we

3370
01:20:20,873 --> 01:20:23,475
re going to fund it? You

3371
01:20:23,475 --> 01:20:25,343
go back to that individual and

3372
01:20:25,343 --> 01:20:25,710
say, how do you propose to fund

3373
01:20:25,710 --> 01:20:26,344
it because we

3374
01:20:26,344 --> 01:20:27,245
re not going to

3375
01:20:27,245 --> 01:20:28,613
do in kind to, we

3376
01:20:28,613 --> 01:20:30,181
re not going

3377
01:20:30,181 --> 01:20:30,815
to provide additional fundings

3378
01:20:30,815 --> 01:20:32,170
or we

3379
01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:32,617
re going to provide in

3380
01:20:32,617 --> 01:20:33,285
kind to and we

3381
01:20:33,285 --> 01:20:34,519
re gonna provide

3382
01:20:34,519 --> 01:20:35,887
additional funds. It can go in

3383
01:20:35,887 --> 01:20:36,721
multiple different directions.

3384
01:20:36,721 --> 01:20:37,389
And again, that

3385
01:20:37,389 --> 01:20:38,823
s where you

3386
01:20:38,823 --> 01:20:40,325
leave them a little bit open

3387
01:20:40,325 --> 01:20:42,360
ended for them to have

3388
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,262
discussion around as well, but

3389
01:20:44,262 --> 01:20:44,462
from a preferred park location,

3390
01:20:44,462 --> 01:20:45,997
that

3391
01:20:45,997 --> 01:20:46,798
s end il. There MAY be

3392
01:20:46,798 --> 01:20:46,965
other considerations. That

3393
01:20:46,965 --> 01:20:47,999
s

3394
01:20:47,999 --> 01:20:48,533
where you could say, hey, we

3395
01:20:48,533 --> 01:20:50,402
d

3396
01:20:50,402 --> 01:20:53,402
like to see maybe options

3397
01:20:53,738 --> 01:20:53,905
a and c in there and not b or.

3398
01:20:53,905 --> 01:20:55,407
We

3399
01:20:55,407 --> 01:20:57,242
re open to it or we send a

3400
01:20:57,242 --> 01:20:58,477
recommendation back to the

3401
01:20:58,477 --> 01:20:59,440
council and say we want to know

3402
01:20:59,440 --> 01:20:59,544
what your space you

3403
01:20:59,544 --> 01:21:00,445
re thinking

3404
01:21:00,445 --> 01:21:02,445
about.

3405
01:21:03,582 --> 01:21:04,583
Um before we

3406
01:21:04,583 --> 01:21:04,783
I mean, ultimately this body

3407
01:21:04,783 --> 01:21:05,851
doesn

3408
01:21:05,851 --> 01:21:07,652
t do the full approval.

3409
01:21:07,652 --> 01:21:09,652
They do recommendations.

3410
01:21:09,955 --> 01:21:10,956
I think you were right, Steve

3411
01:21:10,956 --> 01:21:11,857
Excuse me, I said I think you

3412
01:21:11,857 --> 01:21:12,858
were right. I think we kick it

3413
01:21:12,858 --> 01:21:14,693
up to

3414
01:21:14,693 --> 01:21:14,893
the council

3415
01:21:14,893 --> 01:21:16,893
That

3416
01:21:17,462 --> 01:21:18,930
s, uh, and, and that was

3417
01:21:18,930 --> 01:21:21,990
my view, I guess, is that we,

3418
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:21,233
we either endorse or we don

3419
01:21:21,233 --> 01:21:22,868
t

3420
01:21:22,868 --> 01:21:23,100
endorse the concept. We don

3421
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,603
t

3422
01:21:24,603 --> 01:21:25,104
get into the particulars. I

3423
01:21:25,104 --> 01:21:25,871
mean, here that that

3424
01:21:25,871 --> 01:21:27,871
s really

3425
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:31,343
up to the council. Um, we can,

3426
01:21:31,343 --> 01:21:34,579
if any of you want to recommend

3427
01:21:34,579 --> 01:21:36,381
a location or uh of the ones

3428
01:21:36,381 --> 01:21:38,183
that um Adam has, you know, the,

3429
01:21:38,183 --> 01:21:39,951
the staff has lined out at this

3430
01:21:39,951 --> 01:21:41,920
point, but otherwise, uh, you

3431
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,422
know, in terms of the scope,

3432
01:21:43,422 --> 01:21:43,955
design, funding, potentials. I

3433
01:21:43,955 --> 01:21:44,323
don

3434
01:21:44,323 --> 01:21:44,656
t know that it

3435
01:21:44,656 --> 01:21:45,691
s reasonable

3436
01:21:45,691 --> 01:21:47,691
to

3437
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,661
say to the community member,

3438
01:21:49,661 --> 01:21:52,300
get a bunch of um, you know,

3439
01:21:52,300 --> 01:21:53,666
money, you know, committed to

3440
01:21:53,666 --> 01:21:54,933
this before we would even

3441
01:21:54,933 --> 01:21:55,334
consider, you know, whether we

3442
01:21:55,334 --> 01:21:56,334
think it

3443
01:21:56,334 --> 01:21:58,370
s a good idea to have

3444
01:21:58,370 --> 01:22:00,739
it. I think they probably need

3445
01:22:00,739 --> 01:22:00,939
something that says, you know,

3446
01:22:00,939 --> 01:22:02,841
there

3447
01:22:02,841 --> 01:22:04,576
s some support behind

3448
01:22:04,576 --> 01:22:06,178
this idea in order to get

3449
01:22:06,178 --> 01:22:06,311
people to, uh, um, and I don

3450
01:22:06,311 --> 01:22:07,513
t

3451
01:22:07,513 --> 01:22:09,981
know what else we do either. We,

3452
01:22:09,981 --> 01:22:11,416
we talked quite a bit at the,

3453
01:22:11,416 --> 01:22:13,118
uh, at the work session about

3454
01:22:13,118 --> 01:22:14,720
it and, and members that are

3455
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:14,887
missing tonight, I think mostly

3456
01:22:14,887 --> 01:22:15,153
we

3457
01:22:15,153 --> 01:22:15,821
re at the

3458
01:22:15,821 --> 01:22:17,821
work session.

3459
01:22:18,190 --> 01:22:20,190
Um

3460
01:22:20,459 --> 01:22:22,694
so we can certainly wait and,

3461
01:22:22,694 --> 01:22:26,565
and let it sit and talk about

3462
01:22:26,565 --> 01:22:29,334
it next month. Um, again, but

3463
01:22:29,334 --> 01:22:31,170
what more are we going to

3464
01:22:31,170 --> 01:22:31,370
do or find between now and then

3465
01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:31,937
that

3466
01:22:31,937 --> 01:22:33,539
s going to make a

3467
01:22:33,539 --> 01:22:34,673
difference. I mean, ultimately

3468
01:22:34,673 --> 01:22:35,974
commissioners as well, we can

3469
01:22:35,974 --> 01:22:37,142
look at just sending a

3470
01:22:37,142 --> 01:22:39,411
recommendation of support and

3471
01:22:39,411 --> 01:22:41,146
leaving at that without any

3472
01:22:41,146 --> 01:22:41,346
additional things in there.

3473
01:22:41,346 --> 01:22:43,346
That

3474
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:45,484
s an option. Um

3475
01:22:45,484 --> 01:22:45,918
and I, and I really it

3476
01:22:45,918 --> 01:22:47,853
s kind

3477
01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:49,722
of saying the same thing of

3478
01:22:49,722 --> 01:22:51,223
giving them options 1 through 3

3479
01:22:51,223 --> 01:22:53,192
all letter e if you will. Leave

3480
01:22:53,192 --> 01:22:55,194
it kind of to the council to

3481
01:22:55,194 --> 01:22:55,461
some degree, um, but again, I

3482
01:22:55,461 --> 01:22:57,461
think it

3483
01:22:58,300 --> 01:22:59,765
s all up for you all

3484
01:22:59,765 --> 01:23:01,400
to make that decision, um, but

3485
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,300
again, I want you guys to feel

3486
01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:06,505
like you have the answers as

3487
01:23:06,505 --> 01:23:06,939
best as I can give you without,

3488
01:23:06,939 --> 01:23:08,707
I can

3489
01:23:08,707 --> 01:23:09,375
t present a full design.

3490
01:23:09,375 --> 01:23:09,708
Um, because we haven

3491
01:23:09,708 --> 01:23:09,875
t not,

3492
01:23:09,875 --> 01:23:11,875
we

3493
01:23:12,678 --> 01:23:15,480
ve not got to that point, um,

3494
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:16,949
now that being said, if

3495
01:23:16,949 --> 01:23:17,549
council says, yeah, we want to

3496
01:23:17,549 --> 01:23:18,551
do this, let

3497
01:23:18,551 --> 01:23:20,119
s go more for

3498
01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:20,986
design. That doesn

3499
01:23:20,986 --> 01:23:22,287
t mean, um,

3500
01:23:22,287 --> 01:23:22,555
that we stop at the rack and

3501
01:23:22,555 --> 01:23:24,555
the rack

3502
01:23:25,224 --> 01:23:26,625
s out of it. So as you,

3503
01:23:26,625 --> 01:23:28,590
as commissioner Cookgan

3504
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:28,928
indicated that

3505
01:23:28,928 --> 01:23:30,620
you know, let the council kind

3506
01:23:30,620 --> 01:23:30,963
of get into the weeds. Well,

3507
01:23:30,963 --> 01:23:32,865
that could still come back here

3508
01:23:32,865 --> 01:23:34,833
if they give the actual k. They

3509
01:23:34,833 --> 01:23:37,360
say no, we want to send it back

3510
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,171
to the commission to really

3511
01:23:39,171 --> 01:23:39,371
work through design.

3512
01:23:39,371 --> 01:23:40,206
That

3513
01:23:40,206 --> 01:23:41,540
s definitely a possibility

3514
01:23:41,540 --> 01:23:41,774
and an option as well. So I

3515
01:23:41,774 --> 01:23:42,675
wouldn

3516
01:23:42,675 --> 01:23:42,975
t say this is like the

3517
01:23:42,975 --> 01:23:44,430
last you

3518
01:23:44,430 --> 01:23:46,679
ll ever see and hear

3519
01:23:46,679 --> 01:23:47,446
of it by any stretch, um, I

3520
01:23:47,446 --> 01:23:49,515
think ultimately one of the

3521
01:23:49,515 --> 01:23:50,516
things that the really heavily

3522
01:23:50,516 --> 01:23:51,984
take into consideration is

3523
01:23:51,984 --> 01:23:53,652
really how do you fund the

3524
01:23:53,652 --> 01:23:53,786
project? And I think that

3525
01:23:53,786 --> 01:23:55,488
s

3526
01:23:55,488 --> 01:23:55,654
where um

3527
01:23:55,654 --> 01:23:56,589
you

3528
01:23:56,589 --> 01:23:58,357
re more than happy and

3529
01:23:58,357 --> 01:23:59,792
willing as a body to give a

3530
01:23:59,792 --> 01:24:00,359
recommendation for that funding.

3531
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:02,228
I just don

3532
01:24:02,228 --> 01:24:03,262
t know, um, what

3533
01:24:03,262 --> 01:24:04,697
that actual number would look

3534
01:24:04,697 --> 01:24:07,132
like. I, the only numbers that

3535
01:24:07,132 --> 01:24:09,168
I do know is the cost of the

3536
01:24:09,168 --> 01:24:11,170
statue and the potential

3537
01:24:11,170 --> 01:24:12,838
estimated cost for um the base.

3538
01:24:12,838 --> 01:24:12,972
So right off the top, you

3539
01:24:12,972 --> 01:24:14,972
re

3540
01:24:16,208 --> 01:24:17,643
looking at close to 2022 to

3541
01:24:17,643 --> 01:24:17,910
$25,000.

3542
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:18,610
And that

3543
01:24:18,610 --> 01:24:20,746
s just, just for the

3544
01:24:20,746 --> 01:24:23,449
statue in the past. So when

3545
01:24:23,449 --> 01:24:24,817
other communities had $225,000

3546
01:24:24,817 --> 01:24:26,385
of donations. Did that then go

3547
01:24:26,385 --> 01:24:28,854
to the landscaping and and all

3548
01:24:28,854 --> 01:24:30,622
that other space around it? Ok.

3549
01:24:30,622 --> 01:24:32,992
I mean, I guess where i

3550
01:24:32,992 --> 01:24:33,626
m at is,

3551
01:24:33,626 --> 01:24:34,293
I think it

3552
01:24:34,293 --> 01:24:35,600
s definitely

3553
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:35,461
something that if there

3554
01:24:35,461 --> 01:24:36,996
s a

3555
01:24:36,996 --> 01:24:38,464
want in our community to have

3556
01:24:38,464 --> 01:24:41,233
this, then I, I want there to

3557
01:24:41,233 --> 01:24:43,636
be that in our community, um, I

3558
01:24:43,636 --> 01:24:45,705
would prefer it to be in Salem

3559
01:24:45,705 --> 01:24:47,673
or Salem Hills or or river

3560
01:24:47,673 --> 01:24:47,907
Heights, just for sort of

3561
01:24:47,907 --> 01:24:49,800
privacy

3562
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:50,376
s sake and, and it

3563
01:24:50,376 --> 01:24:52,411
seems like those would be

3564
01:24:52,411 --> 01:24:54,814
places to hold it, but I also,

3565
01:24:54,814 --> 01:24:56,516
I do think if other communities

3566
01:24:56,516 --> 01:24:57,750
have done mostly private funded

3567
01:24:57,750 --> 01:24:58,184
for this, which is that the

3568
01:24:58,184 --> 01:24:58,451
case? It

3569
01:24:58,451 --> 01:25:00,119
s

3570
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:01,821
been mostly privately funded or

3571
01:25:01,821 --> 01:25:03,489
has it been a um combination of

3572
01:25:03,489 --> 01:25:04,924
private and city funds

3573
01:25:04,924 --> 01:25:06,125
initially in an upfront seed

3574
01:25:06,125 --> 01:25:08,327
capital costs right away. It

3575
01:25:08,327 --> 01:25:11,327
was privately funded and then

3576
01:25:12,698 --> 01:25:14,634
over time, um, but Duluth and

3577
01:25:14,634 --> 01:25:16,435
uh Woodbury added additional

3578
01:25:16,435 --> 01:25:18,404
funds for improvements.

3579
01:25:18,404 --> 01:25:21,808
I mean, I, I would, I at this

3580
01:25:21,808 --> 01:25:23,542
level would endorse that, um, a,

3581
01:25:23,542 --> 01:25:25,211
a privately funded with some

3582
01:25:25,211 --> 01:25:26,645
possibility of city funded down

3583
01:25:26,645 --> 01:25:29,582
the road. I would rather say

3584
01:25:29,582 --> 01:25:30,750
that at this level, and then if

3585
01:25:30,750 --> 01:25:32,452
city council decides

3586
01:25:32,452 --> 01:25:33,920
differently, give them that

3587
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,200
opportunity to say, nope, we

3588
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:35,888
want to fund this. That

3589
01:25:35,888 --> 01:25:36,220
s where

3590
01:25:36,220 --> 01:25:38,220
I

3591
01:25:38,424 --> 01:25:41,227
m at just as, as somebody

3592
01:25:41,227 --> 01:25:42,695
that wants to, you know,

3593
01:25:42,695 --> 01:25:44,464
recognize taxpayer money and,

3594
01:25:44,464 --> 01:25:44,864
and all that. Um

3595
01:25:44,864 --> 01:25:45,198
I guess that

3596
01:25:45,198 --> 01:25:46,332
s, I

3597
01:25:46,332 --> 01:25:48,332
m, yes, yes

3598
01:25:48,868 --> 01:25:51,304
for it, but I would

3599
01:25:51,304 --> 01:25:54,304
I would prefer Salem River

3600
01:25:54,540 --> 01:25:56,142
Heights, and a privately funded

3601
01:25:56,142 --> 01:25:56,742
with some city

3602
01:25:56,742 --> 01:25:57,100
later. That

3603
01:25:57,100 --> 01:25:59,100
s where I

3604
01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:02,780
m at

3605
01:26:03,850 --> 01:26:06,190
ok? Do we have a motion, uh,

3606
01:26:06,190 --> 01:26:09,619
for any direction at this point?

3607
01:26:09,656 --> 01:26:11,524
We otherwise that uh

3608
01:26:11,524 --> 01:26:13,126
sort of dies at this point

3609
01:26:13,126 --> 01:26:14,994
until maybe bring it up at the

3610
01:26:14,994 --> 01:26:16,696
next meeting if people want to

3611
01:26:16,696 --> 01:26:18,231
wait and, and, and have the

3612
01:26:18,231 --> 01:26:20,231
other commissioners here.

3613
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:21,367
Otherwise, um

3614
01:26:21,367 --> 01:26:23,236
what we, what we

3615
01:26:23,236 --> 01:26:23,369
d like to do.

3616
01:26:23,369 --> 01:26:24,571
I

3617
01:26:24,571 --> 01:26:25,638
m fine with your original

3618
01:26:25,638 --> 01:26:25,839
motion.

3619
01:26:25,839 --> 01:26:27,400
That

3620
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,775
s how I feel now

3621
01:26:28,775 --> 01:26:30,543
ok

3622
01:26:30,543 --> 01:26:32,345
Um

3623
01:26:32,345 --> 01:26:33,914
well,

3624
01:26:33,914 --> 01:26:35,148
do you want to, do you want to

3625
01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:37,830
restate it or do you want me to

3626
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:38,151
do it again? No,

3627
01:26:38,151 --> 01:26:40,553
I mean, I suppose we have to

3628
01:26:40,553 --> 01:26:42,121
say it again, but I think it,

3629
01:26:42,121 --> 01:26:44,900
it makes the most sense because

3630
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:45,158
it will come back to us if it

3631
01:26:45,158 --> 01:26:45,325
moves forward anyway. This

3632
01:26:45,325 --> 01:26:46,590
isn

3633
01:26:46,590 --> 01:26:46,326
t the last, like you said,

3634
01:26:46,326 --> 01:26:47,327
it

3635
01:26:47,327 --> 01:26:47,460
s not the last time we

3636
01:26:47,460 --> 01:26:48,428
re

3637
01:26:48,428 --> 01:26:48,928
going to talk about this. So,

3638
01:26:48,928 --> 01:26:50,928
so why don

3639
01:26:51,197 --> 01:26:51,364
t you make it then?

3640
01:26:51,364 --> 01:26:53,364
You

3641
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:54,734
re kind of endorsing the

3642
01:26:54,734 --> 01:26:56,703
idea of

3643
01:26:56,703 --> 01:26:58,104
so I would like to make a

3644
01:26:58,104 --> 01:27:00,507
motion to move forward with

3645
01:27:00,507 --> 01:27:02,507
this project.

3646
01:27:03,676 --> 01:27:06,246
Recommended to the city council

3647
01:27:06,246 --> 01:27:08,246
um, and leave

3648
01:27:08,748 --> 01:27:10,417
every, the details up to them.

3649
01:27:10,417 --> 01:27:14,170
So option d and 1 through 3 if

3650
01:27:14,988 --> 01:27:16,988
you will. Yes.

3651
01:27:17,457 --> 01:27:19,457
Right, so

3652
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,830
yeah, the d and e and b Oh yes,

3653
01:27:23,830 --> 01:27:26,199
d Es, my apologies. My. So to

3654
01:27:26,199 --> 01:27:28,501
be safe to say to clear the

3655
01:27:28,501 --> 01:27:28,668
motion up to some degree.

3656
01:27:28,668 --> 01:27:29,970
You

3657
01:27:29,970 --> 01:27:32,138
re recommending the idea of

3658
01:27:32,138 --> 01:27:34,341
it with the, the, the project

3659
01:27:34,341 --> 01:27:36,276
being somewhat within our park

3660
01:27:36,276 --> 01:27:38,211
system and really leaving

3661
01:27:38,211 --> 01:27:39,379
preferred location, scope, and

3662
01:27:39,379 --> 01:27:41,470
funding to council. Is that

3663
01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:43,160
fair to say to really kind of

3664
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:44,251
clean it up or would you prefer

3665
01:27:44,251 --> 01:27:44,551
to send a recommendation? I

3666
01:27:44,551 --> 01:27:44,851
think that

3667
01:27:44,851 --> 01:27:45,118
s what you

3668
01:27:45,118 --> 01:27:45,518
re saying.

3669
01:27:45,518 --> 01:27:46,887
Let

3670
01:27:46,887 --> 01:27:47,587
s see if we get a second

3671
01:27:47,587 --> 01:27:48,355
for that because that

3672
01:27:48,355 --> 01:27:50,355
s the

3673
01:27:50,357 --> 01:27:50,824
motion at this point what you

3674
01:27:50,824 --> 01:27:52,659
said.

3675
01:27:52,659 --> 01:27:54,294
Discussed further

3676
01:27:54,294 --> 01:27:55,950
Is there a second for that

3677
01:27:55,950 --> 01:27:56,496
motion?

3678
01:27:56,496 --> 01:27:58,799
You have a question

3679
01:27:58,799 --> 01:27:59,666
Yeah.

3680
01:27:59,666 --> 01:28:01,000
Ok, second, you

3681
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,168
re 2, ok.

3682
01:28:01,168 --> 01:28:03,168
He

3683
01:28:04,871 --> 01:28:06,439
s the seconds, um, all right,

3684
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:07,700
discussion at this point but I

3685
01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:07,307
mean, are we sure it

3686
01:28:07,307 --> 01:28:09,420
s going to

3687
01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:10,177
get kicked back to us. I mean,

3688
01:28:10,177 --> 01:28:11,311
city council could make all

3689
01:28:11,311 --> 01:28:13,113
those decisions and then just

3690
01:28:13,113 --> 01:28:15,513
move forward with it.

3691
01:28:16,516 --> 01:28:17,150
Are they going to want to??

3692
01:28:17,150 --> 01:28:18,251
Yeah?, um, I can comment a

3693
01:28:18,251 --> 01:28:20,220
little bit on that,

3694
01:28:20,220 --> 01:28:22,220
Commissioner, um.

3695
01:28:22,822 --> 01:28:25,926
Scar, what we could do is

3696
01:28:25,926 --> 01:28:27,761
request

3697
01:28:27,761 --> 01:28:29,196
that as if I get approved the

3698
01:28:29,196 --> 01:28:31,196
design

3699
01:28:32,299 --> 01:28:33,300
we recommend the design efforts

3700
01:28:33,300 --> 01:28:35,300
come back to

3701
01:28:35,502 --> 01:28:37,437
the bac to work through, um, if

3702
01:28:37,437 --> 01:28:39,720
they so choose to approve this

3703
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:39,272
project to move forward, um, so

3704
01:28:39,272 --> 01:28:39,973
that

3705
01:28:39,973 --> 01:28:40,240
s something we can request.

3706
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:41,700
It doesn

3707
01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:41,174
t necessarily mean

3708
01:28:41,174 --> 01:28:41,808
it

3709
01:28:41,808 --> 01:28:44,144
s gonna happen. I would

3710
01:28:44,144 --> 01:28:44,711
imagine

3711
01:28:44,711 --> 01:28:45,145
to Commissioner Barker

3712
01:28:45,145 --> 01:28:45,412
s point

3713
01:28:45,412 --> 01:28:46,246
that they

3714
01:28:46,246 --> 01:28:47,647
re not really going

3715
01:28:47,647 --> 01:28:48,515
to want to settle in on all the

3716
01:28:48,515 --> 01:28:50,830
design efforts and have, you

3717
01:28:50,830 --> 01:28:51,451
know, things of that nature. I

3718
01:28:51,451 --> 01:28:52,152
think we can then come back and

3719
01:28:52,152 --> 01:28:52,486
say, ok, here

3720
01:28:52,486 --> 01:28:53,453
s where we

3721
01:28:53,453 --> 01:28:54,921
re at.

3722
01:28:54,921 --> 01:28:55,155
We could do location as well,

3723
01:28:55,155 --> 01:28:56,230
couldn

3724
01:28:56,230 --> 01:28:58,825
t we? They would come

3725
01:28:58,825 --> 01:29:00,527
back to us in terms of design

3726
01:29:00,527 --> 01:29:00,694
and location. Well, I think if

3727
01:29:00,694 --> 01:29:00,895
we

3728
01:29:00,895 --> 01:29:01,495
re, we

3729
01:29:01,495 --> 01:29:03,960
re going there, then

3730
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:04,197
we should say that now to some

3731
01:29:04,197 --> 01:29:06,700
degree, right? I mean, if we

3732
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:08,969
have a location in mind, there

3733
01:29:08,969 --> 01:29:10,471
are no other options other than

3734
01:29:10,471 --> 01:29:13,600
the 3 you mentioned. As you

3735
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:13,907
look at d, it says other. So,

3736
01:29:13,907 --> 01:29:14,341
what other, but

3737
01:29:14,341 --> 01:29:15,420
but I mean that

3738
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:15,676
s part of the

3739
01:29:15,676 --> 01:29:15,809
discussion, right? If there

3740
01:29:15,809 --> 01:29:17,177
s

3741
01:29:17,177 --> 01:29:17,577
other options that you

3742
01:29:17,577 --> 01:29:19,577
d like

3743
01:29:19,647 --> 01:29:21,748
to consider as we spoke about

3744
01:29:21,748 --> 01:29:23,750
in the um work session, we had

3745
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:24,751
a couple other items, but then

3746
01:29:24,751 --> 01:29:25,752
through discussion, the

3747
01:29:25,752 --> 01:29:27,354
veterans of Moore Community

3748
01:29:27,354 --> 01:29:28,488
Center. There is open green

3749
01:29:28,488 --> 01:29:29,856
space area Plaza, but we felt

3750
01:29:29,856 --> 01:29:30,557
like it was too tight, heavy

3751
01:29:30,557 --> 01:29:32,159
traffic, maybe didn

3752
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:33,527
t give you

3753
01:29:33,527 --> 01:29:34,828
that solitude and seclusion

3754
01:29:34,828 --> 01:29:36,129
that we were thinking about. I

3755
01:29:36,129 --> 01:29:38,599
mean, we could definitely look

3756
01:29:38,599 --> 01:29:39,299
at other locations, um, to

3757
01:29:39,299 --> 01:29:40,501
consider.

3758
01:29:40,501 --> 01:29:41,802
Did you look at behind the

3759
01:29:41,802 --> 01:29:42,903
community center, sort of in

3760
01:29:42,903 --> 01:29:44,171
between, did you, is that what

3761
01:29:44,171 --> 01:29:44,872
you just said behind the

3762
01:29:44,872 --> 01:29:45,772
community center in between

3763
01:29:45,772 --> 01:29:46,673
community center and sort of

3764
01:29:46,673 --> 01:29:48,242
the

3765
01:29:48,242 --> 01:29:50,143
um

3766
01:29:50,143 --> 01:29:50,344
City hall

3767
01:29:50,344 --> 01:29:50,911
There

3768
01:29:50,911 --> 01:29:52,120
s that space right behind

3769
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,681
the community center, is that

3770
01:29:54,681 --> 01:29:56,116
where you talked about?

3771
01:29:56,116 --> 01:29:58,185
The skate park? Yeah, kind of

3772
01:29:58,185 --> 01:29:58,485
next to the skate park, there

3773
01:29:58,485 --> 01:29:58,886
s

3774
01:29:58,886 --> 01:29:59,486
maybe it

3775
01:29:59,486 --> 01:29:59,720
s, maybe there

3776
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:00,454
s just

3777
01:30:00,454 --> 01:30:00,888
not enough space. I don

3778
01:30:00,888 --> 01:30:01,880
t know.

3779
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:01,755
There

3780
01:30:01,755 --> 01:30:01,922
ll be enough space, but I

3781
01:30:01,922 --> 01:30:02,256
don

3782
01:30:02,256 --> 01:30:02,623
t know if we

3783
01:30:02,623 --> 01:30:05,230
d want to put

3784
01:30:05,250 --> 01:30:06,326
it next to a skate park.

3785
01:30:06,326 --> 01:30:07,494
I mean how much distance there

3786
01:30:07,494 --> 01:30:09,163
is with the skate park, but I

3787
01:30:09,163 --> 01:30:10,230
hear you. Yeah, um, the

3788
01:30:10,230 --> 01:30:11,498
National Guard Armory just

3789
01:30:11,498 --> 01:30:13,400
expanded some of their fencing

3790
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:13,767
area for the utility vehicles.

3791
01:30:13,767 --> 01:30:15,767
So that

3792
01:30:15,869 --> 01:30:16,837
s basically a little

3793
01:30:16,837 --> 01:30:17,805
smaller between that and the

3794
01:30:17,805 --> 01:30:18,706
escape. I, I

3795
01:30:18,706 --> 01:30:20,706
m less concerned

3796
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:23,110
with the design aspects as I am,

3797
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:24,545
just the, the, um, the funding

3798
01:30:24,545 --> 01:30:25,790
of it because I, I

3799
01:30:25,790 --> 01:30:26,547
m having

3800
01:30:26,547 --> 01:30:28,947
flashbacks to people showing

3801
01:30:29,183 --> 01:30:30,517
about planning committees, you

3802
01:30:30,517 --> 01:30:31,986
know, with

3803
01:30:31,986 --> 01:30:34,922
you know, decisions that were

3804
01:30:34,922 --> 01:30:36,590
made at that level and funding

3805
01:30:36,590 --> 01:30:36,790
decisions like, hey, why, why

3806
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:37,691
weren

3807
01:30:37,691 --> 01:30:39,526
t some of these decisions

3808
01:30:39,526 --> 01:30:40,728
made at that level. And I just,

3809
01:30:40,728 --> 01:30:41,762
I, where I

3810
01:30:41,762 --> 01:30:41,929
m concerned at is I

3811
01:30:41,929 --> 01:30:43,929
don

3812
01:30:45,650 --> 01:30:48,350
t want this to be something

3813
01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:49,737
which is completely city funded

3814
01:30:49,737 --> 01:30:50,805
when other communities have

3815
01:30:50,805 --> 01:30:51,639
created this and it hasn

3816
01:30:51,639 --> 01:30:52,873
t been

3817
01:30:52,873 --> 01:30:54,408
completely city funded, not to

3818
01:30:54,408 --> 01:30:54,875
say that that would happen here,

3819
01:30:54,875 --> 01:30:56,377
but where I

3820
01:30:56,377 --> 01:30:59,246
m at is my belief

3821
01:30:59,246 --> 01:31:00,314
is that it should be at least

3822
01:31:00,314 --> 01:31:00,814
privately funded with some

3823
01:31:00,814 --> 01:31:02,490
opportunity

3824
01:31:02,490 --> 01:31:03,830
for city funds down the road.

3825
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:05,186
So I guess my option would

3826
01:31:05,186 --> 01:31:05,419
probably be d, um

3827
01:31:05,419 --> 01:31:07,419
wouldn

3828
01:31:07,654 --> 01:31:09,456
t there be something the

3829
01:31:09,456 --> 01:31:11,580
council would determine though?

3830
01:31:11,580 --> 01:31:13,461
Yes, but I at least want it

3831
01:31:13,461 --> 01:31:14,929
stated at this level where my,

3832
01:31:14,929 --> 01:31:16,363
my voice matters that like, if

3833
01:31:16,363 --> 01:31:16,997
they change it from our

3834
01:31:16,997 --> 01:31:17,531
recommendation, that

3835
01:31:17,531 --> 01:31:19,366
s great.

3836
01:31:19,366 --> 01:31:22,269
But at this level, I want, I

3837
01:31:22,269 --> 01:31:24,238
want it to, at least my vote to

3838
01:31:24,238 --> 01:31:25,539
say the combination of private

3839
01:31:25,539 --> 01:31:27,208
and city funds, and I want the

3840
01:31:27,208 --> 01:31:27,341
honest to be on them if they

3841
01:31:27,341 --> 01:31:29,341
re

3842
01:31:29,743 --> 01:31:32,513
going to change or amendment to

3843
01:31:32,513 --> 01:31:33,781
the motion I suggest an

3844
01:31:33,781 --> 01:31:35,750
amendment that the

3845
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:37,351
recommendation to move on and

3846
01:31:37,351 --> 01:31:39,286
be followed with the

3847
01:31:39,286 --> 01:31:41,489
um combination of private and

3848
01:31:41,489 --> 01:31:42,523
city funds is, is the funding

3849
01:31:42,523 --> 01:31:44,225
recommendation.

3850
01:31:44,225 --> 01:31:45,793
and also a part of the design

3851
01:31:45,793 --> 01:31:47,295
piece. Do you want that it

3852
01:31:47,295 --> 01:31:49,630
would come back to us in terms

3853
01:31:49,630 --> 01:31:49,630
of design or not? No, just

3854
01:31:49,630 --> 01:31:50,798
because I think if we

3855
01:31:50,798 --> 01:31:52,767
re going

3856
01:31:52,767 --> 01:31:54,535
to make design decisions, I, I

3857
01:31:54,535 --> 01:31:56,237
feel like that would be then

3858
01:31:56,237 --> 01:31:57,471
made today. I feel like if we

3859
01:31:57,471 --> 01:31:58,772
were going to make some of

3860
01:31:58,772 --> 01:32:00,410
those decisions, then we, we

3861
01:32:00,410 --> 01:32:02,310
should go ahead with that today.

3862
01:32:02,310 --> 01:32:03,411
And I, you know, unless

3863
01:32:03,411 --> 01:32:04,845
somebody else feels strongly

3864
01:32:04,845 --> 01:32:05,212
about some of the design. Ok,

3865
01:32:05,212 --> 01:32:07,181
let

3866
01:32:07,181 --> 01:32:08,783
s see if we have a second

3867
01:32:08,783 --> 01:32:10,818
to your amended amendment to

3868
01:32:10,818 --> 01:32:12,220
the motion. Is there a second

3869
01:32:12,220 --> 01:32:12,420
to that? Can I second it even

3870
01:32:12,420 --> 01:32:14,420
though

3871
01:32:14,889 --> 01:32:16,324
I started it? No, yes, you can.

3872
01:32:16,324 --> 01:32:19,427
Can I? Yeah, or you can accept

3873
01:32:19,427 --> 01:32:19,827
it as a friendly amendment to

3874
01:32:19,827 --> 01:32:20,361
to, well, let

3875
01:32:20,361 --> 01:32:21,228
s vote on that

3876
01:32:21,228 --> 01:32:22,130
though. Ok, so you

3877
01:32:22,130 --> 01:32:24,130
re seconded

3878
01:32:25,566 --> 01:32:26,834
his amendment? Ok. All right.

3879
01:32:26,834 --> 01:32:28,469
Moved and seconded that we

3880
01:32:28,469 --> 01:32:28,669
amend the motion

3881
01:32:28,669 --> 01:32:30,304
so we

3882
01:32:30,304 --> 01:32:31,806
re vote on the amendment

3883
01:32:31,806 --> 01:32:32,306
first and then the motion.

3884
01:32:32,306 --> 01:32:33,208
So we

3885
01:32:33,208 --> 01:32:33,641
ll see if it

3886
01:32:33,641 --> 01:32:35,641
s an amended

3887
01:32:36,611 --> 01:32:39,146
motion. All right, so the uh

3888
01:32:39,146 --> 01:32:41,480
amendment would be that um that

3889
01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:42,583
the, the consideration be this,

3890
01:32:42,583 --> 01:32:42,950
the recommendation from here is

3891
01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:44,719
that it

3892
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:46,721
s a combination of city

3893
01:32:46,721 --> 01:32:48,689
and private funding. Am I

3894
01:32:48,689 --> 01:32:50,891
correct? Ok. Uh, that would go

3895
01:32:50,891 --> 01:32:53,600
into this, uh, uh, memorial.

3896
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,563
All right, all in favor of that

3897
01:32:55,563 --> 01:32:58,563
amendment, Sigma by saying aye.

3898
01:32:58,566 --> 01:33:00,566
Any opposed?

3899
01:33:01,350 --> 01:33:02,437
No? Ok. All right. So then we

3900
01:33:02,437 --> 01:33:04,972
have an amended motion, which

3901
01:33:04,972 --> 01:33:06,374
is to um

3902
01:33:06,374 --> 01:33:09,877
uh endorse the concept to the

3903
01:33:09,877 --> 01:33:12,380
city council of, uh, uh, angel

3904
01:33:12,380 --> 01:33:13,581
of Hope Memorial, uh, with, uh,

3905
01:33:13,581 --> 01:33:15,981
our recommendation that there

3906
01:33:16,617 --> 01:33:19,200
be, um, a combination of city

3907
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,522
and uh private funding to

3908
01:33:21,522 --> 01:33:23,522
establish it.

3909
01:33:24,492 --> 01:33:26,694
Does that sound right? Ok. Any

3910
01:33:26,694 --> 01:33:27,950
uh other discussion, any, ok.

3911
01:33:27,950 --> 01:33:27,562
All right, let

3912
01:33:27,562 --> 01:33:29,864
s vote on that

3913
01:33:29,864 --> 01:33:31,332
motion. All in favor of the

3914
01:33:31,332 --> 01:33:32,600
amended motions signified by

3915
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:33,501
saying aye, aye aye, and you

3916
01:33:33,501 --> 01:33:35,103
opposed?

3917
01:33:35,103 --> 01:33:37,103
Ok.

3918
01:33:37,572 --> 01:33:40,475
Ok. Just want to clarify. Just

3919
01:33:40,475 --> 01:33:42,410
want to make sure. So this body

3920
01:33:42,410 --> 01:33:45,410
is passed and recommended that

3921
01:33:45,447 --> 01:33:46,748
the city support an angel hope

3922
01:33:46,748 --> 01:33:48,748
um Memorial

3923
01:33:48,783 --> 01:33:51,183
within our park system

3924
01:33:51,219 --> 01:33:53,855
for them to determine location

3925
01:33:53,855 --> 01:33:55,823
scope

3926
01:33:55,823 --> 01:33:58,823
and to consider a combination

3927
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:01,229
of public and private funds to

3928
01:34:01,229 --> 01:34:02,397
create the space correct

3929
01:34:02,397 --> 01:34:04,397
correct. Thank you.

3930
01:34:04,832 --> 01:34:06,801
I will say, I mean, it feels as

3931
01:34:06,801 --> 01:34:07,402
if once we know sort of the

3932
01:34:07,402 --> 01:34:08,236
monetary value we

3933
01:34:08,236 --> 01:34:09,804
re working

3934
01:34:09,804 --> 01:34:11,706
with from the community that

3935
01:34:11,706 --> 01:34:14,175
will help establish some of

3936
01:34:14,175 --> 01:34:16,144
those other aspects, right? Ok.

3937
01:34:16,144 --> 01:34:17,679
I appreciate that and I will,

3938
01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:19,470
as I more than likely this is

3939
01:34:19,470 --> 01:34:19,481
next, this next step we

3940
01:34:19,481 --> 01:34:20,849
ll go

3941
01:34:20,849 --> 01:34:23,752
before a work session with the

3942
01:34:23,752 --> 01:34:25,720
council, and I also bring up

3943
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:25,854
the subject matter of if it

3944
01:34:25,854 --> 01:34:27,489
s

3945
01:34:27,489 --> 01:34:29,591
approved to advance that this

3946
01:34:29,591 --> 01:34:31,920
body would like to be a part of

3947
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,361
the design efforts. Ok? And if

3948
01:34:33,361 --> 01:34:35,364
it again, if that statute is

3949
01:34:35,364 --> 01:34:35,496
donated, if you are any of it

3950
01:34:35,496 --> 01:34:36,931
s

3951
01:34:36,931 --> 01:34:38,400
donated, it still comes before

3952
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,902
this body. So that can be in a

3953
01:34:40,902 --> 01:34:42,103
combination with the design

3954
01:34:42,103 --> 01:34:43,672
efforts. Ok, great.

3955
01:34:43,672 --> 01:34:45,273
All right, thank you

3956
01:34:45,273 --> 01:34:49,440
Do you need a rest? Do you want

3957
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:52,547
to sit down? Ok just be short

3958
01:34:52,547 --> 01:34:53,882
on a Short and sweet, the

3959
01:34:53,882 --> 01:34:54,883
Sleepy Hollow Park. Hi

3960
01:34:54,883 --> 01:34:56,840
commissioners, again, Adam

3961
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,253
Motis Park and Recreation

3962
01:34:58,253 --> 01:34:59,487
director. Um, this evening on

3963
01:34:59,487 --> 01:35:01,690
this particular item that

3964
01:35:01,690 --> 01:35:05,290
before you, um, is the cp

3965
01:35:05,660 --> 01:35:08,600
Hollow Park, um, 2026 Capital

3966
01:35:08,330 --> 01:35:09,898
Improvement Plan, um, it is

3967
01:35:09,898 --> 01:35:11,266
proposed for a play on

3968
01:35:11,266 --> 01:35:12,734
replacement. So a little bit of

3969
01:35:12,734 --> 01:35:15,134
background on this particular

3970
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:17,406
one. This is a part of the 26

3971
01:35:17,406 --> 01:35:18,306
2030

3972
01:35:18,306 --> 01:35:18,740
capital improvement plan for

3973
01:35:18,740 --> 01:35:20,208
the city that

3974
01:35:20,208 --> 01:35:22,777
s in front of the

3975
01:35:22,777 --> 01:35:24,646
council as we currently are

3976
01:35:24,646 --> 01:35:25,680
discussing. This was actually

3977
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,149
scheduled for I think a year or

3978
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:29,885
two out, but given the

3979
01:35:29,885 --> 01:35:30,952
evaluation of our park system.

3980
01:35:30,952 --> 01:35:32,487
We made some adjustments and

3981
01:35:32,487 --> 01:35:34,550
changes, particularly to this

3982
01:35:34,550 --> 01:35:34,956
capital approval plan, and we,

3983
01:35:34,956 --> 01:35:38,360
I think moved this one up first

3984
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,395
or was it always in 26? My

3985
01:35:40,395 --> 01:35:41,797
apologies. So it was always at

3986
01:35:41,797 --> 01:35:42,798
26, so it was proved in the

3987
01:35:42,798 --> 01:35:43,999
previous capital improvement

3988
01:35:43,999 --> 01:35:45,934
plan, but it still needs to go

3989
01:35:45,934 --> 01:35:47,836
through the final process of

3990
01:35:47,836 --> 01:35:49,400
getting approval in 20205 for

3991
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:49,905
26 to 30. So it

3992
01:35:49,905 --> 01:35:51,439
s not yet been

3993
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,642
approved, um, so we should know

3994
01:35:53,642 --> 01:35:54,709
that here by the end of this

3995
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:56,545
year. But nonetheless, the

3996
01:35:56,545 --> 01:35:58,130
playground itself is 20 plus

3997
01:35:58,130 --> 01:35:59,448
years old, um, and as you

3998
01:35:59,448 --> 01:36:01,950
recall those that were with us

3999
01:36:01,950 --> 01:36:04,419
on the tour, it was visited, um,

4000
01:36:04,419 --> 01:36:05,687
so this location you should

4001
01:36:05,687 --> 01:36:05,954
have some understanding of

4002
01:36:05,954 --> 01:36:06,688
where it

4003
01:36:06,688 --> 01:36:07,222
s at.

4004
01:36:07,222 --> 01:36:08,824
If you don

4005
01:36:08,824 --> 01:36:10,559
t, here it is. So it

4006
01:36:10,559 --> 01:36:11,993
is one of our neighborhood

4007
01:36:11,993 --> 01:36:14,393
parks, um, the neighborhood

4008
01:36:14,696 --> 01:36:17,432
park itself is roughly about 10

4009
01:36:17,432 --> 01:36:19,401
acres and has about 4000 ft of

4010
01:36:19,401 --> 01:36:21,436
plus of trail networking within

4011
01:36:21,436 --> 01:36:22,671
the park itself. This park

4012
01:36:22,671 --> 01:36:24,206
outside of just having a

4013
01:36:24,206 --> 01:36:25,407
playground container, and also

4014
01:36:25,407 --> 01:36:26,642
has a volleyball, sand

4015
01:36:26,642 --> 01:36:28,543
volleyball court, and

4016
01:36:28,543 --> 01:36:28,977
basketball court. So as you

4017
01:36:28,977 --> 01:36:30,977
ll

4018
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,800
see, highlighted here.

4019
01:36:34,820 --> 01:36:34,283
This is the park location.

4020
01:36:34,283 --> 01:36:36,283
Here

4021
01:36:36,585 --> 01:36:37,653
s a little bit more of a

4022
01:36:37,653 --> 01:36:37,786
upfront view of it, and you

4023
01:36:37,786 --> 01:36:39,786
ll

4024
01:36:40,956 --> 01:36:43,292
actually see coming off of

4025
01:36:43,292 --> 01:36:44,526
College Trail and 84th Street

4026
01:36:44,526 --> 01:36:44,726
here, which it turns into,

4027
01:36:44,726 --> 01:36:45,561
that

4028
01:36:45,561 --> 01:36:46,662
s the main entrance. You

4029
01:36:46,662 --> 01:36:48,970
can come in

4030
01:36:48,970 --> 01:36:49,331
over off Comstock as well, and

4031
01:36:49,331 --> 01:36:51,667
I believe you can come over off

4032
01:36:51,667 --> 01:36:54,200
these back end, um, trail that

4033
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,638
is correct as well. So this is

4034
01:36:56,638 --> 01:36:57,739
the location.

4035
01:36:57,739 --> 01:36:59,775
Um, the current place structure

4036
01:36:59,775 --> 01:37:01,410
again, as I indicated is 20

4037
01:37:01,410 --> 01:37:02,845
plus years old and does that

4038
01:37:02,845 --> 01:37:04,379
combination of that 2 to 12

4039
01:37:04,379 --> 01:37:04,913
year old all in one structure.

4040
01:37:04,913 --> 01:37:05,581
So there

4041
01:37:05,581 --> 01:37:05,747
s not as much as

4042
01:37:05,747 --> 01:37:07,150
you

4043
01:37:07,150 --> 01:37:09,184
ll see for the younger kids,

4044
01:37:09,184 --> 01:37:11,153
but nonetheless, there are some

4045
01:37:11,153 --> 01:37:12,721
features for them. There

4046
01:37:12,721 --> 01:37:12,854
currently is 2 slides. There

4047
01:37:12,854 --> 01:37:14,656
s

4048
01:37:14,656 --> 01:37:14,890
some monkey bars, there

4049
01:37:14,890 --> 01:37:16,191
s some

4050
01:37:16,191 --> 01:37:17,492
climbing features. Um, there

4051
01:37:17,492 --> 01:37:19,528
are 4 benches on the exterior

4052
01:37:19,528 --> 01:37:21,330
of the plate container. There

4053
01:37:21,330 --> 01:37:23,799
are zero swings, um, and there

4054
01:37:23,799 --> 01:37:24,867
are a lot of mature trees that

4055
01:37:24,867 --> 01:37:26,602
create shade structure, which a

4056
01:37:26,602 --> 01:37:27,102
lot of our newer parks wish

4057
01:37:27,102 --> 01:37:28,203
they had but don

4058
01:37:28,203 --> 01:37:29,605
t have, but

4059
01:37:29,605 --> 01:37:30,906
this particular one has some

4060
01:37:30,906 --> 01:37:32,808
great mature trees surrounding

4061
01:37:32,808 --> 01:37:34,376
the plate container.

4062
01:37:34,376 --> 01:37:35,744
So from the front view, um

4063
01:37:35,744 --> 01:37:36,912
walking towards it through it

4064
01:37:36,912 --> 01:37:37,680
as the main entrance. That

4065
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:38,981
s

4066
01:37:38,981 --> 01:37:40,115
kind of a broader view of what

4067
01:37:40,115 --> 01:37:40,582
it looks like. So you

4068
01:37:40,582 --> 01:37:41,684
ll see

4069
01:37:41,684 --> 01:37:43,180
the basketball court in the

4070
01:37:43,180 --> 01:37:45,654
back and then further back here

4071
01:37:45,654 --> 01:37:47,456
around the trees is the actual

4072
01:37:47,456 --> 01:37:47,590
sand volleyball court. Um, it

4073
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:49,191
s

4074
01:37:49,191 --> 01:37:50,326
a pretty circular plate

4075
01:37:50,326 --> 01:37:51,793
container, and then you have

4076
01:37:51,793 --> 01:37:53,620
your 4 benches on their own

4077
01:37:53,620 --> 01:37:55,130
pads outside of the plate

4078
01:37:55,130 --> 01:37:57,130
container.

4079
01:37:58,333 --> 01:37:59,235
So I show you this back end of

4080
01:37:59,235 --> 01:38:00,502
seeing it from the backside

4081
01:38:00,502 --> 01:38:01,403
because this is where you MAY

4082
01:38:01,403 --> 01:38:02,137
see some adjustments

4083
01:38:02,137 --> 01:38:04,600
specifically in the size of the

4084
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:05,400
plate container. But again, you

4085
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:06,809
could see one of the things

4086
01:38:06,809 --> 01:38:09,912
that we always hear is shade,

4087
01:38:09,912 --> 01:38:11,447
shade, shade for parents.

4088
01:38:11,447 --> 01:38:13,349
Makes sense. Kids makes sense.

4089
01:38:13,349 --> 01:38:14,383
This is again one that we are

4090
01:38:14,383 --> 01:38:15,284
fortunate enough to have a

4091
01:38:15,284 --> 01:38:16,285
decent amount of shade

4092
01:38:16,285 --> 01:38:19,285
throughout the entire park and

4093
01:38:19,288 --> 01:38:21,123
in this vicinity.

4094
01:38:21,123 --> 01:38:22,625
So we would look at

4095
01:38:22,625 --> 01:38:24,593
as you, as I

4096
01:38:24,593 --> 01:38:25,861
d indicated here,

4097
01:38:25,861 --> 01:38:27,262
um, just moments ago, there are

4098
01:38:27,262 --> 01:38:29,231
no swings

4099
01:38:29,231 --> 01:38:30,399
So as you guys have been

4100
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:31,330
familiar with Southern Lakes.

4101
01:38:31,330 --> 01:38:33,136
One of the things that we

4102
01:38:33,136 --> 01:38:35,571
needed to do is to expand the

4103
01:38:35,571 --> 01:38:36,839
plate container, um, to

4104
01:38:36,839 --> 01:38:37,873
accommodate the fallen safety

4105
01:38:37,873 --> 01:38:40,409
zones that are required for

4106
01:38:40,409 --> 01:38:42,409
swings, so

4107
01:38:42,878 --> 01:38:45,548
excuse my sketchiness here, no

4108
01:38:45,548 --> 01:38:47,150
pun intended, um, this yellow

4109
01:38:47,150 --> 01:38:47,783
line represents a current plate

4110
01:38:47,783 --> 01:38:48,684
container. We

4111
01:38:48,684 --> 01:38:50,252
d look at cutting

4112
01:38:50,252 --> 01:38:52,188
that out, if you will, and

4113
01:38:52,188 --> 01:38:53,422
expanding

4114
01:38:53,422 --> 01:38:55,458
outwardly, which is technically,

4115
01:38:55,458 --> 01:38:56,759
I think the West

4116
01:38:56,759 --> 01:38:57,192
removing a bunch and we

4117
01:38:57,192 --> 01:38:59,192
d be

4118
01:39:01,797 --> 01:39:03,399
removing one of those trees.

4119
01:39:03,399 --> 01:39:03,699
Yeah. So, I know that

4120
01:39:03,699 --> 01:39:04,967
s not

4121
01:39:04,967 --> 01:39:06,302
what anybody wants to hear at

4122
01:39:06,302 --> 01:39:08,700
all.

4123
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:09,739
So given what we currently do

4124
01:39:09,739 --> 01:39:11,640
with removal of trees.

4125
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,276
Not ideal. So I indicated

4126
01:39:14,276 --> 01:39:15,711
earlier that we have a nursery

4127
01:39:15,711 --> 01:39:16,946
We would look at planting a

4128
01:39:16,946 --> 01:39:18,280
couple more trees in lieu of

4129
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,280
losing one.

4130
01:39:21,183 --> 01:39:22,618
So again, not ideal, but in

4131
01:39:22,618 --> 01:39:23,752
order to look at expanding this

4132
01:39:23,752 --> 01:39:25,354
plate container

4133
01:39:25,354 --> 01:39:27,354
in any direction

4134
01:39:27,490 --> 01:39:28,724
you would have to go west.

4135
01:39:28,724 --> 01:39:30,359
We.

4136
01:39:30,359 --> 01:39:30,760
Maybe this is a dumb question

4137
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:31,660
because I don

4138
01:39:31,660 --> 01:39:34,600
t see the scale

4139
01:39:35,698 --> 01:39:37,366
of it, but instead of

4140
01:39:37,366 --> 01:39:39,569
it going horizontally, could

4141
01:39:39,569 --> 01:39:40,970
you not make that vertical and

4142
01:39:40,970 --> 01:39:43,370
not lose a tree

4143
01:39:43,539 --> 01:39:44,874
So do you mean to come to come

4144
01:39:44,874 --> 01:39:48,440
straight out to make the swings

4145
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:49,378
go this way and not go around

4146
01:39:49,378 --> 01:39:50,446
the trees and then open it up

4147
01:39:50,446 --> 01:39:51,580
on the other side, you know,

4148
01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:53,115
like come and go like, I mean,

4149
01:39:53,115 --> 01:39:54,150
if you, if you need a specific

4150
01:39:54,150 --> 01:39:55,510
amount of space, right? It

4151
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:55,418
s a

4152
01:39:55,418 --> 01:39:56,152
rectangle you

4153
01:39:56,152 --> 01:39:56,419
re looking at.

4154
01:39:56,419 --> 01:39:57,953
Can

4155
01:39:57,953 --> 01:40:00,456
t the rectangle go this way?

4156
01:40:00,456 --> 01:40:01,390
Or is that, I think one of the

4157
01:40:01,390 --> 01:40:02,291
challenges, and I

4158
01:40:02,291 --> 01:40:03,793
ll let our

4159
01:40:03,793 --> 01:40:05,828
city forester comment on it.

4160
01:40:05,828 --> 01:40:07,970
The closer you get those

4161
01:40:07,970 --> 01:40:09,980
concrete plate containers to

4162
01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:09,332
ruts, they die in tap water.

4163
01:40:09,332 --> 01:40:10,299
But I

4164
01:40:10,299 --> 01:40:12,101
ll let a forester comment

4165
01:40:12,101 --> 01:40:15,138
on that. That is correct. You

4166
01:40:15,138 --> 01:40:16,672
tell me interrupt the root zone

4167
01:40:16,672 --> 01:40:18,341
compaction, uh, terranal half

4168
01:40:18,341 --> 01:40:20,900
the roots, it affects the trees,

4169
01:40:20,900 --> 01:40:21,677
um, so

4170
01:40:21,677 --> 01:40:21,844
any way that the container,

4171
01:40:21,844 --> 01:40:23,844
we

4172
01:40:24,146 --> 01:40:24,346
re going to hit tree roots.

4173
01:40:24,346 --> 01:40:26,215
So it

4174
01:40:26,215 --> 01:40:27,160
s sacrifice one

4175
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:27,183
and it would be the one that

4176
01:40:27,183 --> 01:40:29,183
s

4177
01:40:29,285 --> 01:40:29,919
the greenest, the Norway maple.

4178
01:40:29,919 --> 01:40:31,254
Ok. That

4179
01:40:31,254 --> 01:40:33,189
s where we have the

4180
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:35,692
flattest, most open space to

4181
01:40:35,692 --> 01:40:37,660
add onto the container. Got it.

4182
01:40:37,660 --> 01:40:38,561
Again, that ideal, um, and as a

4183
01:40:38,561 --> 01:40:40,263
reminder to this body and for

4184
01:40:40,263 --> 01:40:41,764
some of you who MAY be new to

4185
01:40:41,764 --> 01:40:43,599
this commission, we actually

4186
01:40:43,599 --> 01:40:45,368
have what we also call a tree

4187
01:40:45,368 --> 01:40:48,368
preservation plant. So we have

4188
01:40:48,471 --> 01:40:50,600
a fund based on developers that

4189
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:51,574
are required to do a certain

4190
01:40:51,574 --> 01:40:52,675
level of plant replacement?

4191
01:40:52,675 --> 01:40:53,910
Have they cleared their

4192
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:55,178
property for development, which

4193
01:40:55,178 --> 01:40:56,913
then in this case, we would

4194
01:40:56,913 --> 01:40:59,449
also look at utilizing that

4195
01:40:59,449 --> 01:41:00,850
fund also to put plantings in

4196
01:41:00,850 --> 01:41:02,785
this particular park

4197
01:41:02,785 --> 01:41:04,721
So we, we do have funding to

4198
01:41:04,721 --> 01:41:07,190
replace these trees as well.

4199
01:41:07,190 --> 01:41:10,930
Ques kind of related and not

4200
01:41:10,930 --> 01:41:12,228
related, um, do you always

4201
01:41:12,228 --> 01:41:13,896
replace trees that are lost due

4202
01:41:13,896 --> 01:41:16,265
to different reasons, like for

4203
01:41:16,265 --> 01:41:17,834
example, there were some

4204
01:41:17,834 --> 01:41:19,235
storm that uh damaged some

4205
01:41:19,235 --> 01:41:20,470
tracing of wood, are those

4206
01:41:20,470 --> 01:41:21,170
going to be replaced with the

4207
01:41:21,170 --> 01:41:22,105
ones that you have in the

4208
01:41:22,105 --> 01:41:23,306
nursery?

4209
01:41:23,306 --> 01:41:25,410
I can let our park

4210
01:41:25,410 --> 01:41:27,110
superintendent respond to that.

4211
01:41:27,110 --> 01:41:28,545
Yeah, typically we do unless

4212
01:41:28,545 --> 01:41:29,846
the treaty happened to be in a

4213
01:41:29,846 --> 01:41:32,282
bad location. The ones that you

4214
01:41:32,282 --> 01:41:34,284
are talking more about Oakwoods,

4215
01:41:34,284 --> 01:41:35,385
the majority of them will be

4216
01:41:35,385 --> 01:41:38,121
replaced. Some of them along

4217
01:41:38,121 --> 01:41:38,554
the trail that were too close,

4218
01:41:38,554 --> 01:41:40,560
um, obviously won

4219
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:41,991
t, you know,

4220
01:41:41,991 --> 01:41:43,193
they were wild trees anyways,

4221
01:41:43,193 --> 01:41:43,460
not necessarily planted, and

4222
01:41:43,460 --> 01:41:44,528
there

4223
01:41:44,528 --> 01:41:46,563
s a couple of others up

4224
01:41:46,563 --> 01:41:47,831
top that will not be replaced,

4225
01:41:47,831 --> 01:41:48,465
but the ones done with the

4226
01:41:48,465 --> 01:41:49,299
playground that I

4227
01:41:49,299 --> 01:41:49,466
m thinking

4228
01:41:49,466 --> 01:41:51,434
you

4229
01:41:51,434 --> 01:41:51,968
re talking about will be

4230
01:41:51,968 --> 01:41:53,136
replaced.

4231
01:41:53,136 --> 01:41:54,671
Thank you

4232
01:41:54,671 --> 01:41:55,972
And every year during that part

4233
01:41:55,972 --> 01:41:58,972
of that tree preservation plan

4234
01:41:59,175 --> 01:42:02,175
our city of Forester, along

4235
01:42:02,178 --> 01:42:03,947
with um our public works team

4236
01:42:03,947 --> 01:42:05,482
and stormwater team. We look at

4237
01:42:05,482 --> 01:42:06,649
where we can plant this trees

4238
01:42:06,649 --> 01:42:06,783
every year. So I, I can

4239
01:42:06,783 --> 01:42:07,550
t

4240
01:42:07,550 --> 01:42:08,485
remember what do, how many

4241
01:42:08,485 --> 01:42:10,186
trees did we plant this year

4242
01:42:10,186 --> 01:42:12,656
just out of that fund alone.

4243
01:42:12,656 --> 01:42:14,224
Sorry to put you on the spot,

4244
01:42:14,224 --> 01:42:16,920
Brian. Over 50 so far, but I

4245
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:17,494
still plan to do a fall

4246
01:42:17,494 --> 01:42:17,927
planting, so and we

4247
01:42:17,927 --> 01:42:19,927
ll probably

4248
01:42:20,196 --> 01:42:21,264
get an additional 30 to 40.

4249
01:42:21,264 --> 01:42:23,264
Oh

4250
01:42:23,266 --> 01:42:25,268
Again, not ideal, by any

4251
01:42:25,268 --> 01:42:26,403
stretch the news I want

4252
01:42:26,403 --> 01:42:29,403
to report, but just something

4253
01:42:30,674 --> 01:42:32,674
to consider.

4254
01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:34,277
So I think

4255
01:42:34,277 --> 01:42:36,713
oops, that was not what I

4256
01:42:36,713 --> 01:42:38,713
wanted to do.

4257
01:42:42,319 --> 01:42:43,386
To get back to my pointer

4258
01:42:43,386 --> 01:42:44,387
So this is just a little bit of

4259
01:42:44,387 --> 01:42:44,788
video if you weren

4260
01:42:44,788 --> 01:42:45,722
t on the

4261
01:42:45,722 --> 01:42:49,922
tour. So this kind of shows a

4262
01:42:59,350 --> 01:43:00,537
little bit more

4263
01:43:00,537 --> 01:43:02,539
So as it comes to community

4264
01:43:02,539 --> 01:43:04,274
engagement, I think this is the

4265
01:43:04,274 --> 01:43:05,709
important factor of a lot of

4266
01:43:05,709 --> 01:43:07,430
the things the reasons why we

4267
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:08,779
do what we do.

4268
01:43:08,779 --> 01:43:10,947
Um, so following the kind of

4269
01:43:10,947 --> 01:43:12,883
modeling that we did with the

4270
01:43:12,883 --> 01:43:14,351
Southern Lakes Park and the

4271
01:43:14,351 --> 01:43:16,286
vmcc playground Replacement

4272
01:43:16,286 --> 01:43:18,722
Park, or plain replacement at

4273
01:43:18,722 --> 01:43:19,256
the park. Um, we started this

4274
01:43:19,256 --> 01:43:20,757
particular process of

4275
01:43:20,757 --> 01:43:23,126
engagement about 7 months prior

4276
01:43:23,126 --> 01:43:25,495
to any level of insulation.

4277
01:43:25,495 --> 01:43:26,730
That gives us the opportunity

4278
01:43:26,730 --> 01:43:28,650
through different mechanisms of

4279
01:43:28,650 --> 01:43:29,833
engagement to really hear from

4280
01:43:29,833 --> 01:43:32,233
the community. Both broad

4281
01:43:32,769 --> 01:43:34,271
community as a whole, but also

4282
01:43:34,271 --> 01:43:36,773
um within the neighborhood as

4283
01:43:36,773 --> 01:43:36,940
well. So that same approach is

4284
01:43:36,940 --> 01:43:37,107
what

4285
01:43:37,107 --> 01:43:37,607
we

4286
01:43:37,607 --> 01:43:38,475
ll do and I

4287
01:43:38,475 --> 01:43:39,877
ll speak to this

4288
01:43:39,877 --> 01:43:40,944
flyer here shortly.

4289
01:43:40,944 --> 01:43:41,478
But I wanted to break down kind

4290
01:43:41,478 --> 01:43:42,412
of what we

4291
01:43:42,412 --> 01:43:42,946
re doing for that

4292
01:43:42,946 --> 01:43:43,313
engagement. So as you

4293
01:43:43,313 --> 01:43:44,815
ve seen

4294
01:43:44,815 --> 01:43:45,215
on the previous slide, you

4295
01:43:45,215 --> 01:43:47,183
ll

4296
01:43:47,183 --> 01:43:48,785
see a postcard that is a survey

4297
01:43:48,785 --> 01:43:50,253
with a qr code that is open to

4298
01:43:50,253 --> 01:43:51,688
all of our city residents. It

4299
01:43:51,688 --> 01:43:52,220
opened last week, SEPTEMBER 2nd,

4300
01:43:52,220 --> 01:43:53,957
and I

4301
01:43:53,957 --> 01:43:55,459
ll go through the 22 or

4302
01:43:55,459 --> 01:43:57,459
23rd.

4303
01:43:57,894 --> 01:43:59,896
That survey will be posted to

4304
01:43:59,896 --> 01:44:01,798
our website on our current and

4305
01:44:01,798 --> 01:44:03,233
future projects page. Also be a

4306
01:44:03,233 --> 01:44:05,202
social media campaign which if

4307
01:44:05,202 --> 01:44:05,369
he follows a social media page,

4308
01:44:05,369 --> 01:44:06,203
it

4309
01:44:06,203 --> 01:44:06,603
s already up there. We

4310
01:44:06,603 --> 01:44:08,603
ll

4311
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:12,442
also do an on-site open house

4312
01:44:12,442 --> 01:44:14,945
at Sifahall Park itself on

4313
01:44:14,945 --> 01:44:16,780
Tuesday, OCTOBER 21st, from 50

4314
01:44:16,780 --> 01:44:17,814
to 6:30 P.M. Um, so I invite

4315
01:44:17,814 --> 01:44:18,782
all commissioners to come, be a

4316
01:44:18,782 --> 01:44:19,816
part of that. It

4317
01:44:19,816 --> 01:44:21,185
s a great

4318
01:44:21,185 --> 01:44:22,753
experience. Um, and then that

4319
01:44:22,753 --> 01:44:24,354
postcard that you just seen was

4320
01:44:24,354 --> 01:44:25,689
sent to over about 1000

4321
01:44:25,689 --> 01:44:28,890
residents in that neighborhood.

4322
01:44:28,292 --> 01:44:28,892
So they, they have direct

4323
01:44:28,892 --> 01:44:30,227
knowledge of what

4324
01:44:30,227 --> 01:44:32,227
s happening

4325
01:44:33,130 --> 01:44:34,698
within close proximity to that

4326
01:44:34,698 --> 01:44:36,400
particular park and that either

4327
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,568
then use the survey

4328
01:44:37,568 --> 01:44:39,568
or

4329
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:42,873
come to the open house. I can

4330
01:44:42,873 --> 01:44:44,374
report as of JUNE or JUNE,

4331
01:44:44,374 --> 01:44:46,430
SEPTEMBER of last week, which

4332
01:44:46,430 --> 01:44:48,979
was JUNE, I keep saying JUNE.

4333
01:44:48,979 --> 01:44:51,379
What was last Friday

4334
01:44:52,449 --> 01:44:54,785
Was that that the 5th 5th, we

4335
01:44:54,785 --> 01:44:56,920
had over 100 survey respondents

4336
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,355
It was open for 5 days. So

4337
01:44:58,355 --> 01:44:59,757
again, when you open a broadly

4338
01:44:59,757 --> 01:45:01,125
to the community, you got all

4339
01:45:01,125 --> 01:45:02,593
types of different response and

4340
01:45:02,593 --> 01:45:04,995
comments, which this will, I

4341
01:45:04,995 --> 01:45:08,650
will report these out to the to

4342
01:45:08,650 --> 01:45:10,650
the practice itself.

4343
01:45:10,534 --> 01:45:12,670
So as we look at a timeline, we

4344
01:45:12,670 --> 01:45:14,572
have a meeting um set up with

4345
01:45:14,572 --> 01:45:15,873
flagship lsi, um, that is the

4346
01:45:15,873 --> 01:45:17,808
same group that did Southern

4347
01:45:17,808 --> 01:45:19,743
Lakes. It is the same group

4348
01:45:19,743 --> 01:45:21,178
that did uh Fat Valley and the

4349
01:45:21,178 --> 01:45:22,346
same group that did Heriage

4350
01:45:22,346 --> 01:45:22,646
Village Park. The way we

4351
01:45:22,646 --> 01:45:24,248
re

4352
01:45:24,248 --> 01:45:26,116
able to select directly working

4353
01:45:26,116 --> 01:45:27,618
with this vendor as they are on

4354
01:45:27,618 --> 01:45:28,986
the state contract and if a

4355
01:45:28,986 --> 01:45:29,153
vendor is on a state contract,

4356
01:45:29,153 --> 01:45:30,487
we

4357
01:45:30,487 --> 01:45:32,523
re able to work directly

4358
01:45:32,523 --> 01:45:33,824
with them and not um having to

4359
01:45:33,824 --> 01:45:36,224
necessarily go through the

4360
01:45:36,660 --> 01:45:37,428
bidding process or rfp process.

4361
01:45:37,428 --> 01:45:38,562
Um, great product, great

4362
01:45:38,562 --> 01:45:40,630
quality, so we

4363
01:45:40,630 --> 01:45:40,264
chosen to utilize them so

4364
01:45:40,264 --> 01:45:42,264
they

4365
01:45:42,466 --> 01:45:44,401
ll be working with us as a

4366
01:45:44,401 --> 01:45:46,937
design team. So shortly after

4367
01:45:46,937 --> 01:45:47,972
we get the survey results, um,

4368
01:45:47,972 --> 01:45:49,972
again, we

4369
01:45:49,974 --> 01:45:51,942
ll meet with flagship

4370
01:45:51,942 --> 01:45:53,210
between SEPTEMBER 24th and 29th

4371
01:45:53,210 --> 01:45:54,478
for the next kind of several

4372
01:45:54,478 --> 01:45:56,180
weeks after that, uh, flagship

4373
01:45:56,180 --> 01:45:58,480
will start working on

4374
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:00,448
preliminary designs based on

4375
01:46:00,584 --> 01:46:01,785
the server results and feedback

4376
01:46:01,785 --> 01:46:03,120
from staff.

4377
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:03,821
We also at that time, at the

4378
01:46:03,821 --> 01:46:04,555
end of that, we

4379
01:46:04,555 --> 01:46:05,456
ll be able to

4380
01:46:05,456 --> 01:46:06,423
hopefully present those

4381
01:46:06,423 --> 01:46:07,558
preliminary designs to that

4382
01:46:07,558 --> 01:46:08,592
open house.

4383
01:46:08,592 --> 01:46:10,270
Hey, we

4384
01:46:10,270 --> 01:46:10,227
ve heard feedback.

4385
01:46:10,227 --> 01:46:11,395
Here

4386
01:46:11,395 --> 01:46:12,563
s what could end up, well,

4387
01:46:12,563 --> 01:46:14,298
probably a couple different

4388
01:46:14,298 --> 01:46:14,498
options. Flagship will be there.

4389
01:46:14,498 --> 01:46:14,899
They

4390
01:46:14,899 --> 01:46:15,833
re gonna, we

4391
01:46:15,833 --> 01:46:17,100
re gonna want

4392
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:17,735
to listen, um, and we

4393
01:46:17,735 --> 01:46:19,203
ll really

4394
01:46:19,203 --> 01:46:20,171
try to gauge and collect the

4395
01:46:20,171 --> 01:46:20,337
data of what people like or

4396
01:46:20,337 --> 01:46:21,710
don

4397
01:46:21,710 --> 01:46:23,710
t like.

4398
01:46:23,474 --> 01:46:26,443
And then will allow us after

4399
01:46:26,443 --> 01:46:29,130
that, um, to do any refinements

4400
01:46:29,130 --> 01:46:30,514
from OCTOBER 27th to the 31st.

4401
01:46:30,514 --> 01:46:31,416
And then ultimately again the

4402
01:46:31,416 --> 01:46:32,983
reason your announcement you

4403
01:46:32,983 --> 01:46:34,485
had a work session on NOVEMBER

4404
01:46:34,485 --> 01:46:36,353
12th. We will bring those two

4405
01:46:36,353 --> 01:46:37,888
options. I need tweaks and

4406
01:46:37,888 --> 01:46:39,290
feedbacks for you as a

4407
01:46:39,290 --> 01:46:40,558
commission to select one of the

4408
01:46:40,558 --> 01:46:42,558
two options.

4409
01:46:43,527 --> 01:46:44,695
And then at the 12th meeting

4410
01:46:44,695 --> 01:46:47,950
um the regular scheduled

4411
01:46:48,399 --> 01:46:51,435
meeting at 7, we ask you to

4412
01:46:51,435 --> 01:46:52,236
provide um a recommendation for

4413
01:46:52,236 --> 01:46:53,737
council to approve the

4414
01:46:53,737 --> 01:46:56,137
authorization to purchase in

4415
01:46:56,174 --> 01:46:57,642
year 2025, so we could take

4416
01:46:57,642 --> 01:46:57,842
advantage of 2025 pricing. Then

4417
01:46:57,842 --> 01:46:59,842
that

4418
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:04,612
ll allow us then to more

4419
01:47:05,282 --> 01:47:06,384
than likely um do some level of

4420
01:47:06,384 --> 01:47:07,552
um deconstruction of the

4421
01:47:07,552 --> 01:47:07,918
current playgrounds container

4422
01:47:07,918 --> 01:47:08,586
so that we

4423
01:47:08,586 --> 01:47:09,520
re one of the first

4424
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:10,354
things to happen right away in

4425
01:47:10,354 --> 01:47:12,354
the spring.

4426
01:47:13,224 --> 01:47:14,792
So that we can hopefully open

4427
01:47:14,792 --> 01:47:17,610
early spring or late spring

4428
01:47:17,610 --> 01:47:20,610
early summer of next year.

4429
01:47:21,699 --> 01:47:23,699
Any questions

4430
01:47:23,901 --> 01:47:25,603
Our decisions on NOVEMBER 12

4431
01:47:25,603 --> 01:47:26,938
back to back. Is that?

4432
01:47:26,938 --> 01:47:28,873
Correct. So as you look at the

4433
01:47:28,873 --> 01:47:30,107
work session on NOVEMBER 12th

4434
01:47:30,107 --> 01:47:32,310
at 5 P.M. This particular one

4435
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:33,311
will, will vet all the final,

4436
01:47:33,311 --> 01:47:33,945
the two options. Say what you

4437
01:47:33,945 --> 01:47:34,712
like or don

4438
01:47:34,712 --> 01:47:36,147
t like, or if you

4439
01:47:36,147 --> 01:47:38,820
want to just say we prefer this

4440
01:47:38,820 --> 01:47:40,685
one. Then at the following

4441
01:47:40,685 --> 01:47:42,220
meeting, we will um still

4442
01:47:42,220 --> 01:47:44,522
presented as a brand new, not

4443
01:47:44,522 --> 01:47:45,389
brand new project, but

4444
01:47:45,389 --> 01:47:46,190
without knowing and

4445
01:47:46,190 --> 01:47:47,425
understanding what the actual

4446
01:47:47,425 --> 01:47:47,558
recommendation was from the 5

4447
01:47:47,558 --> 01:47:47,825
o

4448
01:47:47,825 --> 01:47:48,893
clock. I

4449
01:47:48,893 --> 01:47:50,895
ll include it in the

4450
01:47:50,895 --> 01:47:51,395
packet or in the presentation

4451
01:47:51,395 --> 01:47:54,395
and then ask for a

4452
01:47:54,999 --> 01:47:56,400
recommendation.

4453
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:58,690
Other questions

4454
01:47:58,690 --> 01:47:58,836
I got a quick one because I

4455
01:47:58,836 --> 01:48:00,371
m

4456
01:48:00,371 --> 01:48:03,207
bummed about the tree. Could

4457
01:48:03,207 --> 01:48:05,576
you do a separate, like

4458
01:48:05,576 --> 01:48:06,377
satellite container for swings,

4459
01:48:06,377 --> 01:48:08,813
like do they have to be

4460
01:48:08,813 --> 01:48:10,813
connected?

4461
01:48:11,215 --> 01:48:12,750
We could, um

4462
01:48:12,750 --> 01:48:14,118
you know, typically we

4463
01:48:14,118 --> 01:48:16,118
d run

4464
01:48:17,255 --> 01:48:19,257
with one container that houses

4465
01:48:19,257 --> 01:48:21,392
the 2 to 5 age group, the 5 to

4466
01:48:21,392 --> 01:48:23,528
12 age group, and then

4467
01:48:23,528 --> 01:48:24,262
stand-alone pieces plus swings,

4468
01:48:24,262 --> 01:48:25,530
um,

4469
01:48:25,530 --> 01:48:26,864
I guess if we had a separate

4470
01:48:26,864 --> 01:48:27,980
container, that would probably

4471
01:48:27,980 --> 01:48:29,330
now we

4472
01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:30,535
d have to bring sidewalk

4473
01:48:30,535 --> 01:48:32,236
around the container somehow or

4474
01:48:32,236 --> 01:48:34,238
off the trail somehow to the

4475
01:48:34,238 --> 01:48:34,372
new container. Um

4476
01:48:34,372 --> 01:48:35,807
I

4477
01:48:35,807 --> 01:48:36,307
m not saying we can

4478
01:48:36,307 --> 01:48:37,775
t, um,

4479
01:48:37,775 --> 01:48:39,310
but is

4480
01:48:39,310 --> 01:48:39,510
a possibility, and that

4481
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:40,745
s the

4482
01:48:40,745 --> 01:48:41,146
reasons why the price will go

4483
01:48:41,146 --> 01:48:41,746
up because we

4484
01:48:41,746 --> 01:48:43,314
ll have to have

4485
01:48:43,314 --> 01:48:46,314
trail leading up to it.

4486
01:48:47,919 --> 01:48:49,487
Cool, thank you

4487
01:48:49,487 --> 01:48:50,622
And again, I

4488
01:48:50,622 --> 01:48:51,990
m not asking for

4489
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:52,924
any formal action. Just wanted

4490
01:48:52,924 --> 01:48:54,526
to give an update.

4491
01:48:54,526 --> 01:48:56,594
Thank you, Adam. Yep, now we

4492
01:48:56,594 --> 01:48:58,396
can take a break. Please sit

4493
01:48:58,396 --> 01:48:58,764
down. Yes.

4494
01:48:58,764 --> 01:49:00,764
All right, we

4495
01:49:00,865 --> 01:49:02,600
re going to go on

4496
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,569
to administrative presentations

4497
01:49:04,569 --> 01:49:05,837
and our park superintendent, uh,

4498
01:49:05,837 --> 01:49:07,672
Brian Swoboda, would you give a

4499
01:49:07,672 --> 01:49:09,240
report to us, please? Sure.

4500
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,240
Good evening, Chair,

4501
01:49:11,443 --> 01:49:13,443
commissioners, um

4502
01:49:13,545 --> 01:49:15,980
as you probably all aware, uh,

4503
01:49:15,980 --> 01:49:16,147
falls in the air here and, uh,

4504
01:49:16,147 --> 01:49:17,115
it

4505
01:49:17,115 --> 01:49:19,115
s

4506
01:49:19,584 --> 01:49:22,200
a very, very busy fall. Uh, the

4507
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,456
rain has not stopped. The grass

4508
01:49:24,456 --> 01:49:26,357
continues to grow. Um, I got 3

4509
01:49:26,357 --> 01:49:27,826
remaining seasonals, um, and

4510
01:49:27,826 --> 01:49:28,960
some tired full-time employees

4511
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:29,461
besides, but uh we

4512
01:49:29,461 --> 01:49:31,196
re making

4513
01:49:31,196 --> 01:49:33,665
the best of what we can do out

4514
01:49:33,665 --> 01:49:35,266
there, um, ball tournaments

4515
01:49:35,266 --> 01:49:36,267
continue to happen. Uh, every

4516
01:49:36,267 --> 01:49:38,690
weekend again, all the way

4517
01:49:38,690 --> 01:49:40,939
through the end of SEPTEMBER.

4518
01:49:40,939 --> 01:49:42,540
Uh, our picnic shelters and

4519
01:49:42,540 --> 01:49:44,376
rentals have been very busy

4520
01:49:44,376 --> 01:49:46,444
with, uh, you know, typically 4

4521
01:49:46,444 --> 01:49:47,145
every weekend in South Valley,

4522
01:49:47,145 --> 01:49:49,114
uh,

4523
01:49:49,114 --> 01:49:50,615
couple of the swing bridge at

4524
01:49:50,615 --> 01:49:52,817
Rich Valley. Um, so that takes

4525
01:49:52,817 --> 01:49:54,519
up, you know, a lot of weekend

4526
01:49:54,519 --> 01:49:56,454
hours, uh, preparing and

4527
01:49:56,454 --> 01:49:57,755
turning over ball fields and

4528
01:49:57,755 --> 01:49:58,856
cleaning bathrooms and

4529
01:49:58,856 --> 01:50:00,580
preparing for the next picnic

4530
01:50:00,580 --> 01:50:02,580
to come in.

4531
01:50:02,527 --> 01:50:03,194
Um, crews also been doing a lot

4532
01:50:03,194 --> 01:50:04,929
of landscape maintenance

4533
01:50:04,929 --> 01:50:07,132
through road or park system.

4534
01:50:07,132 --> 01:50:08,666
You know, trimming shrubs,

4535
01:50:08,666 --> 01:50:10,168
pulling weeds, spraying, uh,

4536
01:50:10,168 --> 01:50:11,690
replacing plants, that sort of

4537
01:50:11,690 --> 01:50:12,437
stuff. Um, we

4538
01:50:12,437 --> 01:50:14,373
ve also been

4539
01:50:14,373 --> 01:50:16,308
working on stump grinding. We

4540
01:50:16,308 --> 01:50:17,942
had some storm damage. Uh, we

4541
01:50:17,942 --> 01:50:19,812
had about 25 trees out there

4542
01:50:19,812 --> 01:50:22,130
that had either were storm

4543
01:50:22,130 --> 01:50:22,981
damaged or died for some reason

4544
01:50:22,981 --> 01:50:23,982
or not. Uh, so we had the

4545
01:50:23,982 --> 01:50:24,216
stumps grown and now we

4546
01:50:24,216 --> 01:50:25,483
re

4547
01:50:25,483 --> 01:50:27,919
working on a tree replacement

4548
01:50:27,919 --> 01:50:28,520
plan, uh, to get those replaced.

4549
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,520
Um, we

4550
01:50:30,889 --> 01:50:33,291
re also, uh, have a few

4551
01:50:33,291 --> 01:50:33,558
irrigation issues out there, um.

4552
01:50:33,558 --> 01:50:34,125
It

4553
01:50:34,125 --> 01:50:34,893
s that time of the year

4554
01:50:34,893 --> 01:50:36,628
where we like to get that sort

4555
01:50:36,628 --> 01:50:38,663
of stuff fixed before we do

4556
01:50:38,663 --> 01:50:40,650
blowouts, uh, and we typically

4557
01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:41,660
do irrigation blowouts in the

4558
01:50:41,660 --> 01:50:41,333
middle of OCTOBER, so we

4559
01:50:41,333 --> 01:50:42,868
re

4560
01:50:42,868 --> 01:50:44,302
trying to make sure the systems

4561
01:50:44,302 --> 01:50:45,603
are still running correctly the

4562
01:50:45,603 --> 01:50:46,405
way they should. Um, even

4563
01:50:46,405 --> 01:50:48,405
though

4564
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,276
you know, the, the rates and

4565
01:50:51,276 --> 01:50:52,644
times have been way lower just

4566
01:50:52,644 --> 01:50:52,811
due to the the rain amount that

4567
01:50:52,811 --> 01:50:53,712
we

4568
01:50:53,712 --> 01:50:54,212
ve had this year. They

4569
01:50:54,212 --> 01:50:55,647
ve

4570
01:50:55,647 --> 01:50:57,182
ran actually very little. Um,

4571
01:50:57,182 --> 01:50:59,618
so when we do turn them on, we

4572
01:50:59,618 --> 01:50:59,818
do see leaks. We see heads that

4573
01:50:59,818 --> 01:51:00,852
aren

4574
01:51:00,852 --> 01:51:03,121
t moving and that sort of

4575
01:51:03,121 --> 01:51:03,755
stuff.

4576
01:51:03,755 --> 01:51:04,723
Um, Crew

4577
01:51:04,723 --> 01:51:06,991
s also been busy. Uh,

4578
01:51:06,991 --> 01:51:09,270
we have a lot of natural

4579
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:11,397
area trails through the woods

4580
01:51:11,397 --> 01:51:13,799
like Marianna Ranch and Harmon

4581
01:51:13,799 --> 01:51:14,900
Mike Harmon Park Bike reserve,

4582
01:51:14,900 --> 01:51:15,701
um, you know, there

4583
01:51:15,701 --> 01:51:17,701
s probably

4584
01:51:17,736 --> 01:51:19,400
close to 15 miles of those

4585
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:20,772
types of trails that need to be

4586
01:51:20,772 --> 01:51:22,541
mowed, not on a regular basis,

4587
01:51:22,541 --> 01:51:24,760
but, you know, every 4 to 6

4588
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:26,545
weeks, and with this year with

4589
01:51:26,545 --> 01:51:28,847
all the rain, uh, it is every 4

4590
01:51:28,847 --> 01:51:28,981
weeks. We need to mow or we

4591
01:51:28,981 --> 01:51:29,848
re

4592
01:51:29,848 --> 01:51:31,416
getting complaints that the

4593
01:51:31,416 --> 01:51:33,385
grass is too high to even bite

4594
01:51:33,385 --> 01:51:35,200
through, so.

4595
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,921
Uh, also been busy just, you

4596
01:51:35,921 --> 01:51:37,790
know, keeping up painting

4597
01:51:37,790 --> 01:51:39,224
soccer fields, football fields,

4598
01:51:39,224 --> 01:51:41,694
fall lines, you know, all those

4599
01:51:41,694 --> 01:51:45,130
fall sports that are out there.

4600
01:51:45,130 --> 01:51:47,533
Um, we have about 3 weeks left,

4601
01:51:47,533 --> 01:51:49,268
uh, of fall sports, um, in our

4602
01:51:49,268 --> 01:51:49,468
owner and park system. Um, so

4603
01:51:49,468 --> 01:51:50,235
that

4604
01:51:50,235 --> 01:51:52,235
ll

4605
01:51:53,105 --> 01:51:54,773
kick back a little bit on

4606
01:51:54,773 --> 01:51:56,800
maintenance. I assume mowing

4607
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:57,643
will probably continue, you

4608
01:51:57,643 --> 01:51:58,110
know, through mid-OCTOBER. And

4609
01:51:58,110 --> 01:51:59,144
then it

4610
01:51:59,144 --> 01:51:59,778
ll be leaf cleanup, of

4611
01:51:59,778 --> 01:52:01,778
course.

4612
01:52:02,581 --> 01:52:02,848
Um

4613
01:52:02,848 --> 01:52:04,683
the crew

4614
01:52:04,683 --> 01:52:06,285
s also been, uh,

4615
01:52:06,285 --> 01:52:08,860
anticipating, uh, doing a

4616
01:52:08,860 --> 01:52:09,388
prescribed burn at the Prairia

4617
01:52:09,388 --> 01:52:09,555
Heritage Village Park. Uh, so

4618
01:52:09,555 --> 01:52:11,555
we

4619
01:52:11,824 --> 01:52:14,726
re in the process of cutting,

4620
01:52:14,726 --> 01:52:15,894
uh, uh, burn brakes, uh, to

4621
01:52:15,894 --> 01:52:17,696
contain the fire um, going

4622
01:52:17,696 --> 01:52:21,633
around a lot of fence lines at

4623
01:52:21,633 --> 01:52:22,901
the dog park, um, underneath

4624
01:52:22,901 --> 01:52:23,802
electric standards, that sort

4625
01:52:23,802 --> 01:52:25,704
of stuff.

4626
01:52:25,704 --> 01:52:27,472
Uh

4627
01:52:27,472 --> 01:52:29,208
other projects, uh, Heritage

4628
01:52:29,208 --> 01:52:30,420
Village Park is coming along

4629
01:52:30,420 --> 01:52:30,309
very nicely. They

4630
01:52:30,309 --> 01:52:31,376
ve been

4631
01:52:31,376 --> 01:52:32,277
working on the port and place

4632
01:52:32,277 --> 01:52:34,277
rubber, the

4633
01:52:35,681 --> 01:52:37,681
the, um

4634
01:52:38,817 --> 01:52:38,951
of the playground, uh, they

4635
01:52:38,951 --> 01:52:40,951
re

4636
01:52:41,653 --> 01:52:41,820
probably 6 or 7 into it. Uh,

4637
01:52:41,820 --> 01:52:43,288
it

4638
01:52:43,288 --> 01:52:44,924
s looking very nicer into

4639
01:52:44,924 --> 01:52:46,459
putting the colors and the, and

4640
01:52:46,459 --> 01:52:47,459
the scheme on that. I

4641
01:52:47,459 --> 01:52:48,594
anticipate they finish with the

4642
01:52:48,594 --> 01:52:49,361
port in place by the end of the

4643
01:52:49,361 --> 01:52:49,895
week.

4644
01:52:49,895 --> 01:52:51,330
Uh, they

4645
01:52:51,330 --> 01:52:53,432
ve also been pouring

4646
01:52:53,432 --> 01:52:53,866
the remaining concrete there,

4647
01:52:53,866 --> 01:52:55,866
um

4648
01:52:56,802 --> 01:52:58,170
so I think they got, uh, the

4649
01:52:58,170 --> 01:53:00,239
nine shade structure footings

4650
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:01,773
love to do, um, but otherwise,

4651
01:53:01,773 --> 01:53:02,841
the concrete work will be done

4652
01:53:02,841 --> 01:53:04,841
Uh, we

4653
01:53:05,177 --> 01:53:06,612
re on about week 2 of

4654
01:53:06,612 --> 01:53:07,646
the curing process, so in

4655
01:53:07,646 --> 01:53:08,800
another couple of weeks we

4656
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,150
ll

4657
01:53:10,150 --> 01:53:12,284
be starting with, uh, after he

4658
01:53:12,284 --> 01:53:14,253
needs to sit for 30 days before

4659
01:53:14,253 --> 01:53:15,487
we put the final quote on the

4660
01:53:15,487 --> 01:53:16,822
actual splash pad where the

4661
01:53:16,822 --> 01:53:17,923
features are going to be.

4662
01:53:17,923 --> 01:53:18,900
Um

4663
01:53:18,900 --> 01:53:20,900
we

4664
01:53:20,793 --> 01:53:22,394
re also

4665
01:53:22,394 --> 01:53:24,930
um, getting involved, uh, the

4666
01:53:24,930 --> 01:53:26,499
West wheel at Rich Valley, um,

4667
01:53:26,499 --> 01:53:27,232
is no longer being used for the

4668
01:53:27,232 --> 01:53:28,400
season. It

4669
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,336
s just the east

4670
01:53:30,336 --> 01:53:31,737
field with, uh, all the

4671
01:53:31,737 --> 01:53:32,471
baseball fields, uh, so we

4672
01:53:32,471 --> 01:53:33,439
re

4673
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,140
anticipating doing a

4674
01:53:35,140 --> 01:53:36,675
restoration on the infields. Um,

4675
01:53:36,675 --> 01:53:38,675
we have

4676
01:53:39,244 --> 01:53:39,712
edge lips of the infields, uh,

4677
01:53:39,712 --> 01:53:41,460
they

4678
01:53:41,460 --> 01:53:41,814
re really bad and and

4679
01:53:41,814 --> 01:53:42,147
hazardous, so we

4680
01:53:42,147 --> 01:53:44,147
re going to

4681
01:53:44,650 --> 01:53:44,884
start working on some of those.

4682
01:53:44,884 --> 01:53:46,252
Um, we

4683
01:53:46,252 --> 01:53:47,887
ll also get a punch list

4684
01:53:47,887 --> 01:53:48,220
of items at South Valley Park

4685
01:53:48,220 --> 01:53:49,154
that we

4686
01:53:49,154 --> 01:53:52,570
re going to continue to

4687
01:53:52,570 --> 01:53:54,894
work on to, you know, to get

4688
01:53:54,894 --> 01:53:56,428
the turf to more established,

4689
01:53:56,428 --> 01:53:58,630
uh, fixing erosion problems and

4690
01:53:58,630 --> 01:53:59,598
a handful of other things.

4691
01:53:59,598 --> 01:54:01,598
Um

4692
01:54:02,201 --> 01:54:02,401
the goats at South Valley, um,

4693
01:54:02,401 --> 01:54:02,635
they

4694
01:54:02,635 --> 01:54:03,502
re, they

4695
01:54:03,502 --> 01:54:05,370
re doing very

4696
01:54:05,370 --> 01:54:05,638
well. Um, we

4697
01:54:05,638 --> 01:54:07,600
re re-grazing them

4698
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:08,741
now. They

4699
01:54:08,741 --> 01:54:10,309
re on the 3rd Paddo

4700
01:54:10,309 --> 01:54:10,910
3rd, um, so

4701
01:54:10,910 --> 01:54:11,577
basically they

4702
01:54:11,577 --> 01:54:13,977
re on the 2nd

4703
01:54:15,114 --> 01:54:17,830
round, on the 3rd pin.

4704
01:54:17,830 --> 01:54:18,718
Still lots of, lots of people

4705
01:54:18,718 --> 01:54:20,252
going to see him and where are

4706
01:54:20,252 --> 01:54:20,519
the goats at, um, so it

4707
01:54:20,519 --> 01:54:22,519
s been

4708
01:54:22,722 --> 01:54:23,289
neat to see.

4709
01:54:23,289 --> 01:54:24,590
Uh, let

4710
01:54:24,590 --> 01:54:26,590
s see.

4711
01:54:28,227 --> 01:54:29,395
A few weeks ago, I got, uh,

4712
01:54:29,395 --> 01:54:30,396
approached by an employee that

4713
01:54:30,396 --> 01:54:32,198
he

4714
01:54:32,198 --> 01:54:33,933
put in his resignation.

4715
01:54:33,933 --> 01:54:35,933
Um, so

4716
01:54:36,969 --> 01:54:39,500
that employer will be leaving

4717
01:54:39,500 --> 01:54:39,205
SEPTEMBER 26th, um, so I

4718
01:54:39,205 --> 01:54:40,740
ve

4719
01:54:40,740 --> 01:54:42,541
also been in the process of

4720
01:54:42,541 --> 01:54:43,776
posting that position and

4721
01:54:43,776 --> 01:54:44,477
rehiring them as soon as

4722
01:54:44,477 --> 01:54:45,144
possible.

4723
01:54:45,144 --> 01:54:46,120
Other than that, I

4724
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,120
d be happy

4725
01:54:49,849 --> 01:54:51,817
to answer any questions.

4726
01:54:51,817 --> 01:54:54,720
Thank you, Brian. Any questions?

4727
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,691
Yes. Is the Hawk still at South

4728
01:54:58,691 --> 01:54:58,858
Valley, or have they, I believe

4729
01:54:58,858 --> 01:55:00,459
it

4730
01:55:00,459 --> 01:55:00,793
s young, grew up and flew

4731
01:55:00,793 --> 01:55:02,610
away, so it

4732
01:55:02,610 --> 01:55:03,296
s not so protective

4733
01:55:03,296 --> 01:55:04,664
anymore. I have not heard of

4734
01:55:04,664 --> 01:55:05,531
anybody being chased down

4735
01:55:05,531 --> 01:55:07,531
lately.

4736
01:55:09,769 --> 01:55:11,904
The hawk, did you say? Oh.

4737
01:55:11,904 --> 01:55:13,672
Yeah, actually, I was at the

4738
01:55:13,672 --> 01:55:15,575
grove swimming, and there was a

4739
01:55:15,575 --> 01:55:16,509
hawk that flew into the window

4740
01:55:16,509 --> 01:55:17,243
twice. I don

4741
01:55:17,243 --> 01:55:18,544
t know if it saw

4742
01:55:18,544 --> 01:55:20,480
its reflection or what, but it

4743
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,414
was like, boom, it was loud. I

4744
01:55:22,414 --> 01:55:23,950
was like, these are some strong

4745
01:55:23,950 --> 01:55:25,918
windows. Thank goodness. Oh,

4746
01:55:25,918 --> 01:55:29,188
and the hawk was ok as far as

4747
01:55:29,188 --> 01:55:31,230
you know.

4748
01:55:31,230 --> 01:55:32,625
Ok. Any other questions,

4749
01:55:32,625 --> 01:55:34,494
comments for Brian?

4750
01:55:34,494 --> 01:55:35,528
Thank you, sir

4751
01:55:35,528 --> 01:55:36,496
Um, and now we

4752
01:55:36,496 --> 01:55:37,530
ll have it.

4753
01:55:37,530 --> 01:55:37,897
Julie Dorszek, who

4754
01:55:37,897 --> 01:55:38,831
s our

4755
01:55:38,831 --> 01:55:39,765
recreation superintendent,

4756
01:55:39,765 --> 01:55:40,967
would you give a snub date,

4757
01:55:40,967 --> 01:55:42,835
please? I will do that. Good

4758
01:55:42,835 --> 01:55:45,438
evening, Chair Cook, members of

4759
01:55:45,438 --> 01:55:47,240
the commission. Um, quick

4760
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:48,341
Community Center update. Uh,

4761
01:55:48,341 --> 01:55:50,543
our fall membership special is

4762
01:55:50,543 --> 01:55:52,578
going to be starting tomorrow,

4763
01:55:52,578 --> 01:55:54,881
um, if you register between

4764
01:55:54,881 --> 01:55:55,381
SEPTEMBER 11th and OCTOBER 10th,

4765
01:55:55,381 --> 01:55:56,820
um, we

4766
01:55:56,820 --> 01:55:58,820
ve reduced the

4767
01:55:58,840 --> 01:55:59,285
enrollment fee to $25 rather

4768
01:55:59,285 --> 01:56:00,586
than the $79 that

4769
01:56:00,586 --> 01:56:02,255
s typically,

4770
01:56:02,255 --> 01:56:03,823
uh, charged, um.

4771
01:56:03,823 --> 01:56:05,758
As Brian said, as we head into

4772
01:56:05,758 --> 01:56:07,126
the fall season, people start

4773
01:56:07,126 --> 01:56:08,594
becoming more active in the

4774
01:56:08,594 --> 01:56:11,130
community center, um, the girls

4775
01:56:11,130 --> 01:56:13,399
swim team also came back to, um,

4776
01:56:13,399 --> 01:56:14,834
for their season and which goes

4777
01:56:14,834 --> 01:56:16,350
through NOVEMBER they utilize

4778
01:56:16,350 --> 01:56:17,203
our facility, the Aquatic

4779
01:56:17,203 --> 01:56:18,605
Center, from 3 to 6 every

4780
01:56:18,605 --> 01:56:20,390
Monday through Friday, um, and

4781
01:56:20,390 --> 01:56:22,141
then also some Saturday morning

4782
01:56:22,141 --> 01:56:23,743
times and so that does impact

4783
01:56:23,743 --> 01:56:25,211
our member swimming, um,

4784
01:56:25,211 --> 01:56:25,411
aspects a little bit, but, um,

4785
01:56:25,411 --> 01:56:26,246
that

4786
01:56:26,246 --> 01:56:27,180
s part of our contract

4787
01:56:27,180 --> 01:56:27,647
with them and that

4788
01:56:27,647 --> 01:56:27,914
s expected

4789
01:56:27,914 --> 01:56:29,716
and that

4790
01:56:29,716 --> 01:56:31,550
s kind of an ongoing

4791
01:56:31,550 --> 01:56:32,719
part of our um program that we

4792
01:56:32,719 --> 01:56:35,719
run at the community center

4793
01:56:36,689 --> 01:56:38,558
um, also a couple of fitness,

4794
01:56:38,558 --> 01:56:40,393
um, updates our fitness offices

4795
01:56:40,393 --> 01:56:41,940
were recently remodeled last

4796
01:56:41,940 --> 01:56:42,795
week. Um, so it

4797
01:56:42,795 --> 01:56:44,300
s a much needed

4798
01:56:44,300 --> 01:56:46,320
improvement for our fitness

4799
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:46,299
staff to have um an environment

4800
01:56:46,299 --> 01:56:47,300
that

4801
01:56:47,300 --> 01:56:48,368
s welcoming for our

4802
01:56:48,368 --> 01:56:50,403
customers, people that come in

4803
01:56:50,403 --> 01:56:51,938
and have a personal training

4804
01:56:51,938 --> 01:56:52,138
meeting with our staff and

4805
01:56:52,138 --> 01:56:53,373
there

4806
01:56:53,373 --> 01:56:55,508
s a gathering place for

4807
01:56:55,508 --> 01:56:58,111
them as well as for our two new

4808
01:56:58,111 --> 01:56:59,646
staff members to have a, um,

4809
01:56:59,646 --> 01:57:00,814
their office combined and they

4810
01:57:00,814 --> 01:57:01,314
can work in the same office

4811
01:57:01,314 --> 01:57:01,848
space. So it

4812
01:57:01,848 --> 01:57:02,810
s the first time

4813
01:57:02,810 --> 01:57:02,715
that we

4814
01:57:02,715 --> 01:57:04,684
ve

4815
01:57:04,684 --> 01:57:06,786
uh, done that in a number of

4816
01:57:06,786 --> 01:57:08,755
years of the previous office

4817
01:57:08,755 --> 01:57:10,156
furniture was kind of piecemeal

4818
01:57:10,156 --> 01:57:11,424
together so it really looks

4819
01:57:11,424 --> 01:57:13,159
nice go down and you can feel

4820
01:57:13,159 --> 01:57:14,460
free to stop in and say hi and

4821
01:57:14,460 --> 01:57:15,862
check out the new furniture and

4822
01:57:15,862 --> 01:57:16,362
then also at the end of this

4823
01:57:16,362 --> 01:57:17,797
month we

4824
01:57:17,797 --> 01:57:19,466
re going to be

4825
01:57:19,466 --> 01:57:19,699
replacing our fitness flooring.

4826
01:57:19,699 --> 01:57:20,734
So that

4827
01:57:20,734 --> 01:57:22,635
s going to have a

4828
01:57:22,635 --> 01:57:24,270
substantial impact on our

4829
01:57:24,270 --> 01:57:24,471
fitness space for about a

4830
01:57:24,471 --> 01:57:25,572
week

4831
01:57:25,572 --> 01:57:25,805
s time. Um, we

4832
01:57:25,805 --> 01:57:27,740
ll take

4833
01:57:27,740 --> 01:57:28,975
some time to create other

4834
01:57:28,975 --> 01:57:30,310
optional spaces for people to

4835
01:57:30,310 --> 01:57:31,411
be able to work out because we

4836
01:57:31,411 --> 01:57:32,746
have to remove everything out

4837
01:57:32,746 --> 01:57:34,881
of the fitness area.

4838
01:57:34,881 --> 01:57:35,150
And then um move it to, we

4839
01:57:35,150 --> 01:57:35,849
re

4840
01:57:35,849 --> 01:57:37,117
gonna move the strength

4841
01:57:37,117 --> 01:57:39,520
training equipment into the

4842
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,540
bright side room and then move

4843
01:57:41,540 --> 01:57:42,389
the cardio equipment into the

4844
01:57:42,389 --> 01:57:42,589
poolside room and there

4845
01:57:42,589 --> 01:57:43,923
s a

4846
01:57:43,923 --> 01:57:45,392
conference room right there

4847
01:57:45,392 --> 01:57:46,592
that the birthday party space

4848
01:57:46,592 --> 01:57:48,280
so the

4849
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:49,620
areas will be a

4850
01:57:49,620 --> 01:57:49,195
changed a little bit but we

4851
01:57:49,195 --> 01:57:51,195
re

4852
01:57:51,431 --> 01:57:53,990
doing our best to accommodate

4853
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:55,499
and create additional spaces

4854
01:57:55,835 --> 01:57:56,870
for our customers to be able to

4855
01:57:56,870 --> 01:57:57,938
I believe our fitness, um,

4856
01:57:57,938 --> 01:58:00,730
staff is also going to create a

4857
01:58:00,730 --> 01:58:01,675
circuit area along the track or

4858
01:58:01,675 --> 01:58:03,143
a portion of the track upstairs.

4859
01:58:03,143 --> 01:58:06,112
And so, um, again, doing our

4860
01:58:06,112 --> 01:58:08,148
best to create an optional um

4861
01:58:08,148 --> 01:58:09,449
space and create some fun new,

4862
01:58:09,449 --> 01:58:11,384
maybe exercise routines for

4863
01:58:11,384 --> 01:58:14,654
people to try out while the

4864
01:58:14,654 --> 01:58:16,523
space is being revised and

4865
01:58:16,523 --> 01:58:17,757
updated with an improved look.

4866
01:58:17,757 --> 01:58:18,925
Um.

4867
01:58:18,925 --> 01:58:20,694
What else did I want to tell

4868
01:58:20,694 --> 01:58:22,629
you about when is that going to

4869
01:58:22,629 --> 01:58:25,310
happen? Pardon me, what is that

4870
01:58:25,310 --> 01:58:26,199
going to happen? It starts

4871
01:58:26,199 --> 01:58:28,100
some of the some of the

4872
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:29,970
equipment will be start to be

4873
01:58:29,970 --> 01:58:31,572
moved on SEPTEMBER 29th, and it

4874
01:58:31,572 --> 01:58:33,340
should be completed by OCTOBER

4875
01:58:33,340 --> 01:58:33,506
5th, I believe that Monday,

4876
01:58:33,506 --> 01:58:35,242
it

4877
01:58:35,242 --> 01:58:38,110
ll be ready, um, for

4878
01:58:38,110 --> 01:58:40,460
customers to go into the new to

4879
01:58:40,460 --> 01:58:41,615
the revised fitness space.

4880
01:58:41,615 --> 01:58:41,815
Yeah

4881
01:58:41,815 --> 01:58:43,815
They

4882
01:58:43,917 --> 01:58:44,317
ll be plenty of signage

4883
01:58:44,317 --> 01:58:45,520
around we

4884
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:46,286
re gonna start

4885
01:58:46,286 --> 01:58:46,686
communicating it out we

4886
01:58:46,686 --> 01:58:47,954
ve sent

4887
01:58:47,954 --> 01:58:48,955
out member emails already

4888
01:58:48,955 --> 01:58:49,489
letting people know, but

4889
01:58:49,489 --> 01:58:50,570
there

4890
01:58:50,570 --> 01:58:50,357
ll be daily signs that

4891
01:58:50,357 --> 01:58:51,858
ll

4892
01:58:51,858 --> 01:58:53,393
let people know like, go to

4893
01:58:53,393 --> 01:58:54,661
this space for this equipment

4894
01:58:54,661 --> 01:58:55,762
goal here for this equipment,

4895
01:58:55,762 --> 01:58:57,230
our goal here for the strength

4896
01:58:57,230 --> 01:58:57,631
training equipment. So there

4897
01:58:57,631 --> 01:58:59,499
ll

4898
01:58:59,499 --> 01:59:00,667
be plenty of information coming

4899
01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:02,669
for people to know where they

4900
01:59:02,669 --> 01:59:04,905
can go and where they can

4901
01:59:04,905 --> 01:59:06,390
utilize their equipment so that

4902
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:07,441
their typical routines. The,

4903
01:59:07,441 --> 01:59:08,842
the biggest impact will more

4904
01:59:08,842 --> 01:59:09,977
than likely be our treadmills.

4905
01:59:09,977 --> 01:59:10,978
We don

4906
01:59:10,978 --> 01:59:11,678
t have enough electrical

4907
01:59:11,678 --> 01:59:13,678
spaces

4908
01:59:13,780 --> 01:59:15,150
in order to house the number of

4909
01:59:15,150 --> 01:59:16,650
terminals that we typically

4910
01:59:16,650 --> 01:59:16,950
have on the floor, so we

4911
01:59:16,950 --> 01:59:18,518
ll

4912
01:59:18,518 --> 01:59:19,953
have at least some options and

4913
01:59:19,953 --> 01:59:20,520
then like I said, we

4914
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,322
ll create

4915
01:59:22,322 --> 01:59:23,991
other options for people to

4916
01:59:23,991 --> 01:59:25,692
utilize to get their workouts

4917
01:59:25,692 --> 01:59:27,194
in.

4918
01:59:27,194 --> 01:59:28,929
Um, then I

4919
01:59:28,929 --> 01:59:31,732
m moving on to just

4920
01:59:31,732 --> 01:59:33,400
re um our regular recreation

4921
01:59:33,400 --> 01:59:34,635
programs, as Brian said, all

4922
01:59:34,635 --> 01:59:36,236
the work that he does, we have

4923
01:59:36,236 --> 01:59:36,570
to to some degree we

4924
01:59:36,570 --> 01:59:37,838
re the

4925
01:59:37,838 --> 01:59:38,739
ones that in our department

4926
01:59:38,739 --> 01:59:40,340
that create those rental

4927
01:59:40,340 --> 01:59:41,708
permits and create those and

4928
01:59:41,708 --> 01:59:44,108
schedule those activities out

4929
01:59:44,144 --> 01:59:47,314
and so, um, our staff are busy

4930
01:59:47,314 --> 01:59:50,484
on doing that. Uh, we currently

4931
01:59:50,484 --> 01:59:52,152
have 311 programs that are

4932
01:59:52,152 --> 01:59:53,821
being offered right now and we

4933
01:59:53,821 --> 01:59:55,522
have about 1,081 participants

4934
01:59:55,522 --> 01:59:56,857
that have registered for those

4935
01:59:56,857 --> 01:59:58,258
programs. Those are things like,

4936
01:59:58,258 --> 02:00:00,258
like football, soccer

4937
02:00:02,196 --> 02:00:03,230
swimming lessons, etc

4938
02:00:03,230 --> 02:00:03,664
On SEPTEMBER 19th, we

4939
02:00:03,664 --> 02:00:05,664
re going

4940
02:00:06,660 --> 02:00:08,102
to be offering our third year

4941
02:00:08,102 --> 02:00:08,235
of the 5th quarter events. It

4942
02:00:08,235 --> 02:00:09,470
s

4943
02:00:09,470 --> 02:00:10,938
a collaborative program that we

4944
02:00:10,938 --> 02:00:12,673
offer with the school district

4945
02:00:12,673 --> 02:00:15,442
with the sparc program and so

4946
02:00:15,442 --> 02:00:18,178
at that we usually have up to,

4947
02:00:18,178 --> 02:00:20,470
well, actually last year we had

4948
02:00:20,470 --> 02:00:22,150
over 200 students participate

4949
02:00:22,150 --> 02:00:23,183
in that, that were in grades 6

4950
02:00:23,183 --> 02:00:23,650
through 8. So we actually

4951
02:00:23,650 --> 02:00:24,651
closed down, it

4952
02:00:24,651 --> 02:00:26,651
s after the

4953
02:00:26,753 --> 02:00:28,922
bmcc closes. We started at 9:30

4954
02:00:28,922 --> 02:00:30,524
at night and we go till 11:30

4955
02:00:30,524 --> 02:00:32,524
at night and

4956
02:00:32,593 --> 02:00:33,827
we open up our facility for

4957
02:00:33,827 --> 02:00:35,496
those young people to come and

4958
02:00:35,496 --> 02:00:36,230
have fun and we create

4959
02:00:36,230 --> 02:00:37,231
different stations and

4960
02:00:37,231 --> 02:00:38,532
activities for them to

4961
02:00:38,532 --> 02:00:38,999
participate in, um, it

4962
02:00:38,999 --> 02:00:40,999
s really

4963
02:00:41,201 --> 02:00:41,669
great, really well attended

4964
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:43,669
event and it

4965
02:00:43,704 --> 02:00:45,672
s a lot of fun. Um,

4966
02:00:45,672 --> 02:00:46,607
and then Al talked a lot about,

4967
02:00:46,607 --> 02:00:47,641
um, some of the fall programs

4968
02:00:47,641 --> 02:00:48,750
that he has coming up, so I

4969
02:00:48,750 --> 02:00:49,510
m

4970
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:50,477
going to skip those that I have

4971
02:00:50,477 --> 02:00:52,212
on my list. And then we just

4972
02:00:52,212 --> 02:00:52,980
have a lot of ongoing tasks,

4973
02:00:52,980 --> 02:00:53,514
which I think I

4974
02:00:53,514 --> 02:00:55,514
ve mentioned to

4975
02:00:55,983 --> 02:00:57,551
you all in the past, um,

4976
02:00:57,551 --> 02:00:59,530
working on the 2026 budget,

4977
02:00:59,530 --> 02:01:00,521
kind of finishing and refining

4978
02:01:00,521 --> 02:01:02,521
that, monitoring the 202

4979
02:01:03,991 --> 02:01:06,193
5 budget. Um, software review

4980
02:01:06,193 --> 02:01:07,428
is ongoing for narrowing that

4981
02:01:07,428 --> 02:01:09,797
down and hoping to have a

4982
02:01:09,797 --> 02:01:12,797
decision in the next 30 to 60

4983
02:01:13,701 --> 02:01:15,135
days on a future, um, facility

4984
02:01:15,135 --> 02:01:16,403
and reservation software

4985
02:01:16,403 --> 02:01:16,970
program that would replace the

4986
02:01:16,970 --> 02:01:18,138
current.

4987
02:01:18,138 --> 02:01:18,672
Software system that we have,

4988
02:01:18,672 --> 02:01:19,173
which just doesn

4989
02:01:19,173 --> 02:01:20,274
t really work

4990
02:01:20,274 --> 02:01:21,775
very well for us.

4991
02:01:21,775 --> 02:01:23,143
Can I ask you a question about

4992
02:01:23,143 --> 02:01:26,143
that? With the new software

4993
02:01:35,220 --> 02:01:35,489
system Yes, yes, um, so many

4994
02:01:35,489 --> 02:01:37,258
improvements it

4995
02:01:37,258 --> 02:01:38,459
s um I was just

4996
02:01:38,459 --> 02:01:39,593
telling Adam today we had

4997
02:01:39,593 --> 02:01:40,928
another meeting with them this

4998
02:01:40,928 --> 02:01:42,396
morning, so we went through the

4999
02:01:42,396 --> 02:01:44,310
financial aspects of of the

5000
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:44,198
software and

5001
02:01:44,198 --> 02:01:44,865
it

5002
02:01:44,865 --> 02:01:44,999
s

5003
02:01:44,999 --> 02:01:45,933
I

5004
02:01:45,933 --> 02:01:46,267
m

5005
02:01:46,267 --> 02:01:47,568
I don

5006
02:01:47,568 --> 02:01:48,869
t want to get too excited

5007
02:01:48,869 --> 02:01:49,336
because, you know, it always

5008
02:01:49,336 --> 02:01:49,804
feels like it

5009
02:01:49,804 --> 02:01:51,839
s maybe too good

5010
02:01:51,839 --> 02:01:52,173
to be true, but it sure feels

5011
02:01:52,173 --> 02:01:54,173
like it

5012
02:01:55,776 --> 02:01:57,411
s um, a really great

5013
02:01:57,411 --> 02:01:57,545
software company um, what I

5014
02:01:57,545 --> 02:01:58,879
m

5015
02:01:58,879 --> 02:02:01,279
hearing about the customers

5016
02:02:01,349 --> 02:02:02,416
that are currently utilizing

5017
02:02:02,416 --> 02:02:03,250
the software. There

5018
02:02:03,250 --> 02:02:04,352
s no red

5019
02:02:04,352 --> 02:02:05,686
flags. There

5020
02:02:05,686 --> 02:02:07,254
s no significant

5021
02:02:07,254 --> 02:02:07,588
issues with, with the software

5022
02:02:07,588 --> 02:02:09,900
from what I

5023
02:02:09,900 --> 02:02:10,570
m hearing so very

5024
02:02:10,570 --> 02:02:10,258
cautiously optimistic that it

5025
02:02:10,258 --> 02:02:11,659
s

5026
02:02:11,659 --> 02:02:12,560
gonna be a huge improvement for

5027
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:12,760
us. I mean, obviously there

5028
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:14,760
s a

5029
02:02:14,829 --> 02:02:16,230
lot of work to do to transition

5030
02:02:16,230 --> 02:02:16,464
to that new software system

5031
02:02:16,464 --> 02:02:17,331
and it

5032
02:02:17,331 --> 02:02:19,333
s going to take a lot of

5033
02:02:19,333 --> 02:02:19,734
time and planning, but, um,

5034
02:02:19,734 --> 02:02:20,234
we

5035
02:02:20,234 --> 02:02:21,836
re, we

5036
02:02:21,836 --> 02:02:23,437
re excited to get

5037
02:02:23,437 --> 02:02:24,872
moving towards that.

5038
02:02:24,872 --> 02:02:26,307
Will it make sure that I scan

5039
02:02:26,307 --> 02:02:27,908
the right kid with the right

5040
02:02:27,908 --> 02:02:29,377
card when I come in with my 3

5041
02:02:29,377 --> 02:02:31,379
kids should be able to have

5042
02:02:31,379 --> 02:02:32,580
iPads that would then, um, you

5043
02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:34,549
would just scan and go like,

5044
02:02:34,549 --> 02:02:36,217
you would just be able to have

5045
02:02:36,217 --> 02:02:37,218
your use your

5046
02:02:37,218 --> 02:02:38,786
you they, they would have an

5047
02:02:38,786 --> 02:02:39,454
app and you would have your qr

5048
02:02:39,454 --> 02:02:39,787
code right here. Oh, that

5049
02:02:39,787 --> 02:02:41,389
s so

5050
02:02:41,389 --> 02:02:42,490
cool and you just, yeah, I

5051
02:02:42,490 --> 02:02:42,657
signed into the activity that

5052
02:02:42,657 --> 02:02:43,291
you

5053
02:02:43,291 --> 02:02:44,392
re registered for and it

5054
02:02:44,392 --> 02:02:45,526
would pop up and say, oh, are

5055
02:02:45,526 --> 02:02:48,526
you here for swimming lessons

5056
02:02:48,529 --> 02:02:48,863
or are you here, you know, so

5057
02:02:48,863 --> 02:02:49,564
at least that

5058
02:02:49,564 --> 02:02:50,965
s what it sounds

5059
02:02:50,965 --> 02:02:51,132
like. So a lot more to come,

5060
02:02:51,132 --> 02:02:52,366
we

5061
02:02:52,366 --> 02:02:55,200
re still just in the demoing

5062
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,938
stage, but, um, as we begin

5063
02:02:56,938 --> 02:02:58,573
transitioning and starting to

5064
02:02:58,573 --> 02:02:58,873
implement the software we

5065
02:02:58,873 --> 02:02:59,400
re

5066
02:02:59,400 --> 02:02:59,240
we

5067
02:02:59,240 --> 02:02:59,807
re, we

5068
02:02:59,807 --> 02:03:00,608
re very cautiously

5069
02:03:00,608 --> 02:03:01,109
optimistic that it

5070
02:03:01,109 --> 02:03:02,143
s gonna be a

5071
02:03:02,143 --> 02:03:02,643
great improvement. You had me

5072
02:03:02,643 --> 02:03:03,144
no matter what it

5073
02:03:03,144 --> 02:03:04,679
s going to be

5074
02:03:04,679 --> 02:03:05,813
better than what we have.

5075
02:03:05,813 --> 02:03:06,981
Um, I think that that

5076
02:03:06,981 --> 02:03:08,449
s really,

5077
02:03:08,449 --> 02:03:08,983
um, the majority of my update,

5078
02:03:08,983 --> 02:03:09,417
um, and we

5079
02:03:09,417 --> 02:03:11,417
re also obviously

5080
02:03:11,819 --> 02:03:12,453
starting to work on our winter

5081
02:03:12,453 --> 02:03:13,121
brochure. So I

5082
02:03:13,121 --> 02:03:15,323
ll stand for any

5083
02:03:15,323 --> 02:03:17,323
questions. Great.

5084
02:03:17,759 --> 02:03:20,261
Thank you. Julie, uh, very much,

5085
02:03:20,261 --> 02:03:23,197
uh, any questions for Julie?

5086
02:03:23,197 --> 02:03:24,632
Comments? I just have a comment,

5087
02:03:24,632 --> 02:03:25,733
uh, I already texted out

5088
02:03:25,733 --> 02:03:27,201
because I thought his

5089
02:03:27,201 --> 02:03:27,368
presentation was awesome, but

5090
02:03:27,368 --> 02:03:27,702
it

5091
02:03:27,702 --> 02:03:29,203
s so I

5092
02:03:29,203 --> 02:03:30,710
ve worked with them

5093
02:03:30,710 --> 02:03:31,472
forever, but it

5094
02:03:31,472 --> 02:03:32,607
s so awesome to

5095
02:03:32,607 --> 02:03:33,474
see him like really jumping

5096
02:03:33,474 --> 02:03:34,842
into it. He

5097
02:03:34,842 --> 02:03:35,977
s so enthusiastic

5098
02:03:35,977 --> 02:03:36,110
about it. So I feel like we

5099
02:03:36,110 --> 02:03:37,812
re

5100
02:03:37,812 --> 02:03:39,747
really lucky to have somebody,

5101
02:03:39,747 --> 02:03:39,914
uh, you know, in charge, who,

5102
02:03:39,914 --> 02:03:41,182
who

5103
02:03:41,182 --> 02:03:43,151
s that excited about it.

5104
02:03:43,151 --> 02:03:43,785
Lots of energy, yes, yes.

5105
02:03:43,785 --> 02:03:44,285
Thank you. I

5106
02:03:44,285 --> 02:03:46,685
ll share that with

5107
02:03:47,455 --> 02:03:49,390
him. Thank you. Mhm.

5108
02:03:49,390 --> 02:03:51,426
Ok. Anything else? Thank you,

5109
02:03:51,426 --> 02:03:54,595
Julie, very much and Adams back

5110
02:03:54,595 --> 02:03:55,763
to you, please, for the, uh,

5111
02:03:55,763 --> 02:03:58,163
park superintendent or excuse

5112
02:03:58,533 --> 02:04:00,680
me for the, uh, well, for the,

5113
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:01,169
the whole director update

5114
02:04:01,169 --> 02:04:03,169
business.

5115
02:04:03,171 --> 02:04:05,173
Have any comments this evening.

5116
02:04:05,173 --> 02:04:06,541
Excuse me. Are you sure? You

5117
02:04:06,541 --> 02:04:06,774
want to think about that,

5118
02:04:06,774 --> 02:04:07,575
Julian

5119
02:04:07,575 --> 02:04:08,142
s such a wonderful job.

5120
02:04:08,142 --> 02:04:09,444
I, I don

5121
02:04:09,444 --> 02:04:11,844
t have any additional

5122
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:13,615
comments. Wow, amazing. Ok. Do,

5123
02:04:13,615 --> 02:04:16,615
does anybody have any questions

5124
02:04:17,552 --> 02:04:19,554
for Adam or comments, or?

5125
02:04:19,554 --> 02:04:21,489
Once again, things, uh, just

5126
02:04:21,489 --> 02:04:23,525
seem to be running so well here,

5127
02:04:23,525 --> 02:04:25,894
and I participate 4 days a week

5128
02:04:25,894 --> 02:04:28,229
and, and it just, uh, just a

5129
02:04:28,229 --> 02:04:30,732
pleasure to be here and to, and

5130
02:04:30,732 --> 02:04:34,932
so many, uh, and so much energy

5131
02:04:35,737 --> 02:04:37,205
and, and so well, um, uh.

5132
02:04:37,205 --> 02:04:38,539
Running and uh then of course

5133
02:04:38,539 --> 02:04:38,706
in our park system just with,

5134
02:04:38,706 --> 02:04:39,807
it

5135
02:04:39,807 --> 02:04:41,876
s a jewel, you know, what we

5136
02:04:41,876 --> 02:04:43,344
have here and uh

5137
02:04:43,344 --> 02:04:45,346
um, so thank you, thank you all

5138
02:04:45,346 --> 02:04:46,314
so much for what you do and

5139
02:04:46,314 --> 02:04:49,217
Adam for the leadership you

5140
02:04:49,217 --> 02:04:50,552
provide and

5141
02:04:50,552 --> 02:04:50,752
and uh at this point, we

5142
02:04:50,752 --> 02:04:52,752
re

5143
02:04:52,887 --> 02:04:55,123
going to go to Commissioner

5144
02:04:55,123 --> 02:04:56,558
comments to see, um, kind of

5145
02:04:56,558 --> 02:04:58,226
try to keep it to 30 minutes,

5146
02:04:58,226 --> 02:05:00,280
if you would each, um, that

5147
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:01,563
would be appreciated at this

5148
02:05:01,563 --> 02:05:02,397
hour. So, Nikki, what do you

5149
02:05:02,397 --> 02:05:04,332
have? No, it

5150
02:05:04,332 --> 02:05:05,834
s past my bedtime,

5151
02:05:05,834 --> 02:05:06,701
huh. I got nothing. You don

5152
02:05:06,701 --> 02:05:08,701
t

5153
02:05:08,870 --> 02:05:09,404
have, ok. Have, ok. Look,

5154
02:05:09,404 --> 02:05:11,406
saying have, ok., we

5155
02:05:11,406 --> 02:05:13,406
re good.

5156
02:05:13,908 --> 02:05:14,843
Sandy, Luisa, thank you,

5157
02:05:14,843 --> 02:05:16,211
everyone. Ok, no comment, no

5158
02:05:16,211 --> 02:05:17,979
comment, no comment either.

5159
02:05:17,979 --> 02:05:18,546
Goodness gracious.

5160
02:05:18,546 --> 02:05:19,447
All right, we

5161
02:05:19,447 --> 02:05:20,882
ve come to the

5162
02:05:20,882 --> 02:05:24,252
end of another meeting, and I

5163
02:05:24,252 --> 02:05:26,354
will entertain a motion to

5164
02:05:26,354 --> 02:05:26,922
adjourn this particular meeting.

5165
02:05:26,922 --> 02:05:28,922
He

5166
02:05:29,291 --> 02:05:31,226
s your 2nd.. 0, 2nd. All

5167
02:05:31,226 --> 02:05:33,128
right, Nikki seconds, all in

5168
02:05:33,128 --> 02:05:34,596
favor of adjourning the meeting.

5169
02:05:34,596 --> 02:05:36,498
Uh, please signify by saying hi,

5170
02:05:36,498 --> 02:05:36,665
hi, and he opposed. All right,

5171
02:05:36,665 --> 02:05:38,665
we