1 00:00:28,750 --> 00:00:36,470 Good evening. I'd like to call the September 10th, 2025 Natural Resources Commission meeting to order. 2 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:40,010 And we will start with roll call. 3 00:00:40,970 --> 00:00:50,530 Thank you, Vice Chair Stein, Commissioner's President, Vice Chair Stein, Commissioner's tune, or sorry, 4 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:57,710 commissioners McCaffslin and Dahl. Currently we do not have a quorum. Commissioners, 5 00:00:57,890 --> 00:01:05,350 they're not present. Our commissioners tuning husbands and sheets. I believe we still are 6 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:11,750 expecting a couple commissioners. But Mr. Vice Chair, if we could move along with the agenda, 7 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:17,350 but not take formal action unless we do get a quorum at some point. 8 00:01:19,610 --> 00:01:22,550 So the next item was to approve the agenda. 9 00:01:22,710 --> 00:01:24,750 We will table that at this time and just 10 00:01:25,790 --> 00:01:30,530 views the agenda that you have before you as sort of a draft or 11 00:01:30,930 --> 00:01:32,570 an unofficial agenda. 12 00:01:33,250 --> 00:01:36,710 And we'll still kind of follow that flow for the meeting. 13 00:01:37,730 --> 00:01:41,270 And same thing with the approval of the minutes from our last 14 00:01:41,270 --> 00:01:43,470 work session in which was in July. 15 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:55,790 We will not take formal action on that at this time since we do not have a quorum, but please do review those minutes when you have time. 16 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:07,580 And the next item is the citizen comment period. We don't have any in-service in-person visitors this evening. 17 00:02:08,100 --> 00:02:14,040 We would like to put out a warm invite for any citizens of 18 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,020 Minnesota heights that would like to attend one of our meetings. 19 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:21,060 We'd love to have you here to hear any concerns you have about the city's natural resources. 20 00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:24,620 Any positive things that you'd like to share as well. 21 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,680 Another opportunity I'll mention is once or twice a year we do have like a field or a site visit. 22 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,580 We just had one last month, two on the interstate Valley Creek Restoration Project. 23 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:42,020 So that's another opportunity for citizens to come and meet the commission. 24 00:02:43,660 --> 00:02:47,580 Talk to us, see some really interesting and cool projects. 25 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:53,720 So I just want to remind anyone that maybe watch an on-town square of that opportunity. 26 00:02:55,380 --> 00:02:59,040 Coordinator's writer, can we go back now and do those approvals? 27 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:06,040 or is that the. Yes, that would be great. Thank you. Okay. So, we're going to go back and 28 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:14,020 agenda to take care of a few items here. You should have the agenda in front of you and 29 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:24,660 is there a motion to adopt tonight's agenda? So, the motion by Mr. Dowell is there a second. 30 00:03:24,660 --> 00:03:30,540 Second, second by Commissioner Sheets, any discussion on the motion? 31 00:03:31,820 --> 00:03:33,850 Hearing none, all in favor, please say aye. 32 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Aye. 33 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:36,540 I'll post say no. 34 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:38,420 We have an agenda. 35 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,840 And then let's move back again a little to approval of the 36 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:51,000 the minutes from the July 9th, 2025 commission work session. 37 00:03:51,580 --> 00:03:56,000 Hopefully you all had a little bit of time to review those minutes prior to the meeting. 38 00:03:56,860 --> 00:03:57,420 And, 39 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:06,020 yeah, so is there a motion to approve the minutes from the July 9th work session? 40 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:08,260 I hope to approve. 41 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,340 So the motion is made by Commissioner Tuning. 42 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,500 Is there a second? 43 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:14,400 Thank you. 44 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,320 Second by Commissioner Mackazzlin, you need a discussion on the motion. 45 00:04:22,940 --> 00:04:27,460 Okay, hearing none, all in favor of approving the minutes, please say aye. 46 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:33,040 I, I, all opposed to you know, and the minutes are approved. 47 00:04:35,380 --> 00:04:44,280 So, going to item six on your agenda, new business, and this one has an action item 48 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:53,160 of discussion, discussion of the trick or teen event, as well as a decision on our level 49 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:59,980 of involvement in the trick or teen event and who specifically that might. 50 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,620 If we choose to participate in that event. To kind of kick this off from my benefit, can you remind me, did we participate in that event? 51 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,500 We did participate in that event last year. 52 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,140 Yes, thank you, Mr. Vice Chair Stein. 53 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:25,780 We did participate last year. Last year's participation was focused on stormwater education and promoting the doctorate and program. 54 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:26,700 And 55 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,820 I can, I can, if the commission is ready, I can present on that item. 56 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:37,580 Yeah. 57 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:38,020 Please do. 58 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,860 So, this is an annual event. 59 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:46,220 It's held at the Part 3 City Golf Course. 60 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,220 And so, again, we will be having the event in 2025. 61 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:57,640 It is scheduled for Saturday, October 18 from 4 to 6 p.m. 62 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:04,840 it's open to the public. It's a free event. Each full on the golf course features giveaways 63 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:15,480 and candy for kids and other participants. We have been discussing on how to incorporate partners 64 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:23,240 in energy in city events as well as this one in the in the past and the commission has as 65 00:06:24,220 --> 00:06:35,820 So, some ideas proposed, including some ideas were also proposed by staff to move the commission 66 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:42,620 to the first hole on the golf course, and then also incorporate waste and recycling 67 00:06:42,620 --> 00:06:51,200 organics and education on other sustainability efforts in the city. 68 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:58,180 So one of the things from partners in energy standpoint would be promoting the home energy 69 00:06:58,180 --> 00:07:04,590 squads as well as other partners in energy programs for residents and businesses in 70 00:07:04,590 --> 00:07:16,570 So if the commission could please discuss the event and interest and ability to be involved or attend at this time, 71 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:21,190 I think it's a great. 72 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:26,290 Seems like you're going opportunity to get information out and would wondering in terms of the home energy squad. 73 00:07:26,470 --> 00:07:34,150 I know I think at one of the events we had a drawing for a free home energy audit would that be possible to do that again at this event. 74 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:35,710 Yeah, thank you for the question. 75 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:39,510 And I believe so, I will check with partners in energy. 76 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:46,350 They might still be offering free home energy squad visits through the fall if not. 77 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:51,150 I think we can sponsor, I think that wouldn't be an issue to sponsor. 78 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:52,250 Another one. 79 00:07:54,810 --> 00:08:00,310 And I would add, we've got our materials for the partners in energy booth pretty well prepared. 80 00:08:00,330 --> 00:08:04,910 We've got a slide show for some of our events in the spring. 81 00:08:04,910 --> 00:08:08,770 We brought along some mon equipped pens and things like that. 82 00:08:09,870 --> 00:08:12,210 So I guess the preparation for that 83 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:17,770 should be pretty minimalized with think to do a boot there. 84 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:26,270 Is there any insights from doing this last year 85 00:08:26,270 --> 00:08:29,050 from the, I guess, the Education Outreach Committee here? 86 00:08:30,290 --> 00:08:35,840 Well, a piece of it is implementing whatever you're 87 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,360 losing or talking about into the whole, right? 88 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,480 That's a piece of it. 89 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:45,680 So we'd want to think about how to be engaging 90 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:51,580 at the whole with the materials that we have. 91 00:08:54,730 --> 00:08:57,770 It would be pretty much engaging with the adults 92 00:08:57,770 --> 00:09:00,350 that can with the child probably from the home 93 00:09:00,350 --> 00:09:02,550 and the sheep perspective, or is there a way 94 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:03,950 to engage kids in that topic? 95 00:09:05,290 --> 00:09:05,830 It's a good question. 96 00:09:05,950 --> 00:09:08,290 I mean, I think we should adjust it. 97 00:09:08,290 --> 00:09:13,970 I was not present myself last year, but I can be on the state. 98 00:09:14,170 --> 00:09:17,250 So if we need people there, I can be there. 99 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:24,730 I'm just, Commissioner Sheet's just, just to understand, 100 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:25,950 because I've never been to this event. 101 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:30,230 What does that mean by corny with the whole, is it deaft? 102 00:09:30,810 --> 00:09:32,730 Well, the idea that we have last year 103 00:09:32,730 --> 00:09:37,750 that our student commissioner Hannah was super instrumental 104 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:47,690 and was we created a great setup to go over the whole to look like leaves and engage with talking 105 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:55,650 about stormwater and cleaning leaves out from your, from the drains and like if you're on 106 00:09:55,650 --> 00:09:59,970 walks and you see that there are leaves you can do something about it so I created an engaging way. 107 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:14,320 I don't know if you would say it differently, but it made a topic simple to talk about with kids and attendees, but also kind of fun. 108 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Yeah, I'm sure, because I think I had the 109 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,020 trains to the river stencil on it, you know. 110 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:28,060 Like, to help you recognize that where you'd see it in your neighborhood or around the city. 111 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:31,580 And then the other holes are sponsored by like an orthodontist in the 112 00:10:33,570 --> 00:10:34,130 workplace in the end 113 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:37,790 of the city. 114 00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:38,710 This is sponsored by the law. 115 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:39,830 Quite certainly. 116 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:45,990 And just to confirm all the material that was used last year is still available to use this year. 117 00:10:48,270 --> 00:10:54,050 Commissioner Tuting, yes, however the focus has changed to partners in energy and sustainability. 118 00:10:55,070 --> 00:10:58,570 So we probably could not reuse those materials. 119 00:10:59,390 --> 00:11:00,390 Okay, so that's your. 120 00:11:00,710 --> 00:11:00,910 Thank you. 121 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:04,770 Yeah, and there's been some talk about costumes. 122 00:11:05,730 --> 00:11:10,150 If Commissioner is want to dress up in costumes, I think staff will be in costumes. 123 00:11:11,330 --> 00:11:18,010 vegetable costumes, it sounds like another waste and organics themed, so if there is something 124 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:24,650 creatively you want to come up with for a costume for partners in energy or another sustainability 125 00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:30,310 topic or something else you don't have to dress up going to costume either. 126 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:36,250 I mean I think perhaps our education committee and outreach committee could come up with something 127 00:11:36,250 --> 00:11:40,230 but in terms of educating younger people, 128 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:42,390 I mean there's opportunities to educate about light bulbs, 129 00:11:42,910 --> 00:11:45,130 light switches, that type of thing perhaps, 130 00:11:45,830 --> 00:11:47,170 in terms of concerning energy. 131 00:11:47,530 --> 00:11:50,450 So I think we could probably come up with something to have on the whole, 132 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:55,090 and then encourage whoever's there to dress up in a costume, 133 00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:56,190 appropriate to that. 134 00:11:58,470 --> 00:12:02,270 Just recently engaging with a young child on this. 135 00:12:02,270 --> 00:12:09,090 I found that there's, it resonated when talking about fossil fuels and dinosaurs and all of this. 136 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:14,390 So maybe that could be an engaging way, looking at what is fossil fuel is in a very basic way. 137 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:17,530 And then what do renewable energies mean in a very basic way. 138 00:12:18,370 --> 00:12:21,490 But considering that timeline is only a month or not quite sure, 139 00:12:22,050 --> 00:12:24,070 we have to just kind of discuss more logistics. 140 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:30,730 How much we want to, how much capacity we have in the availability to create this material. 141 00:12:30,730 --> 00:12:32,350 I'd definitely agree with you. 142 00:12:32,450 --> 00:12:39,150 Commissioner Dahl, I think, education community committee could jump in on this, but maybe 143 00:12:39,150 --> 00:12:41,090 that's something that we can chat about. 144 00:12:43,540 --> 00:12:49,000 Yeah, and on that question, Corners, whether we have, do you need a commitment tonight that 145 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,620 we are going to take a whole at this event? 146 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,420 Or is this something we can have the education outreach committee put a little more thought 147 00:12:57,420 --> 00:13:05,740 into how we would, I don't know, decorate the area, whatever the word is there. 148 00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:11,920 Or do you need a, with the time, what is it, October, 18th, you need a firm commitment 149 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,460 tonight that will be taking one of the slots. 150 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:24,980 Thank you, Vice Chair, Vice Chair, I think that not maybe individual commitments, but maybe a commitment 151 00:13:24,980 --> 00:13:32,420 from the commission as a whole that they all put some effort into coming up with some 152 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:40,320 things to have at the whole if they're not if you're not going to be able to make it to help promote 153 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:47,640 partners in energy. I think that would be enough and then we can get individual commitments. 154 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,360 I would like to have individual commitments by the end of the month for sure. 155 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,560 Thank you for the 156 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:00,920 prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer. And I would say as a whole, I think it 157 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,220 sums up a great opportunity for our commission to engage with the public on an energy. So 158 00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:11,600 generally positive feedback. Okay. I would say. 159 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:17,840 I would like to move then that we sponsor the whole 160 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:23,180 I had, maybe this is a second portion, but that's the education and outreach committee 161 00:14:23,180 --> 00:14:25,840 design the whole for our committee. 162 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:39,540 So I have a motion from Commissioner Dowl to sponsor a whole with some additional work from the education outreach committee on how to stage that the best. 163 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,500 Is there a second to that motion? 164 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:44,400 Second by Commissioner Sheets. 165 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:46,560 Any discussion on the motion? 166 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:49,720 Okay. 167 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,780 I'll in favor say aye. 168 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Aye. 169 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,000 I'll pose, you know. 170 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,080 Okay. 171 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,800 the motion passes, we will commit to that coordinator spreading. 172 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Thank you. 173 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:09,420 And the next item on the agenda of new business is the geothermal planning grant. 174 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:16,100 And I will kick this over to Coordinator Spiderman for an information on the update on this grant. 175 00:15:17,260 --> 00:15:29,200 Thank you Vice Chair Stein. The city had originally applied for a geothermal planning grant from the Minnesota Department of Commerce back in March of this year. 176 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:44,060 We were placed on a waiting list and then recently we're notified that we were taken off that waiting list and awarded up to $250,000 for the planning of a geothermal energy system. 177 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:51,960 The plan would be to assess the city's public works facility with that grant. 178 00:15:51,960 --> 00:16:15,120 So I brought up this graphic from the Department of Energy for those not familiar with geothermal energy systems or geothermal energy in general, so this is kind of a nice basic graphic that shows how geothermal energy works. 179 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:24,620 Basically, it's taking or utilizing the constant temperature of the ground and moisture 180 00:16:24,620 --> 00:16:30,160 water within the ground sometimes to heat and cool buildings. 181 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:43,020 It's only maybe below 30 feet in depth where you reach that constant temperature of 50-59 degrees 182 00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:53,240 Fahrenheit and so wells are dug and it's on a lute system so the water moves through 183 00:16:53,240 --> 00:17:01,720 the well or the pipes. It doesn't take water from the ground. It's just passing through 184 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:11,300 the ground and it can be installed vertically as well as horizontally these systems but we 185 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:18,160 would then be using this grant to assess installing one of these systems at the Public 186 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Works facility. 187 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:26,520 And eligible expenses through the grant include analysis, analysis of the heating and cooling 188 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:34,520 demand of the building evaluation of equipment that's needed, analysis of the geologic 189 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:42,240 conditions of the site and then preparation of a financial and analysis or final report for 190 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:49,480 the project. So the city has about 16 weeks to enter into a contract with an insultant 191 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:56,080 to lead an implement the project, more currently working on a request for proposals to go 192 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,120 to qualified consultants and contractors for the project. 193 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:07,120 And no action is needed, it's just an update to the commission. 194 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:10,900 There are any questions by the commission. 195 00:18:11,140 --> 00:18:14,340 I can attempt to answer those at this time as well. 196 00:18:16,810 --> 00:18:17,990 I'll just start with the comment, 197 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:25,350 which is we installed this exact type of system at our house back in 2010. 198 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:29,510 So for 15 years, it's both heated and cooled our house. 199 00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:35,190 So we haven't used natural gas or any sort of combustion to do that. 200 00:18:35,470 --> 00:18:41,090 And it's been extremely reliable and efficient, low cost. 201 00:18:43,070 --> 00:18:48,310 The trick is that initial drilling of those loops 202 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:52,890 is where the added cost is or the higher-up front cost. 203 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:58,730 So that's kind of what's cool about this grant is like they'll analyze that, the economics 204 00:18:58,730 --> 00:19:04,490 of it, you know, the effort to drill those in and everything and see if this is something 205 00:19:04,490 --> 00:19:07,970 that makes sense for the city or not before you just jump into it. 206 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:16,350 So really happy to hear that we've pulled off the waiting list and got the grant and just want 207 00:19:16,350 --> 00:19:21,690 to thank staff, Courtney and his writer, but also Public Works Director Rootset, you guys put 208 00:19:21,690 --> 00:19:28,730 lot of effort into just understanding all of this and talking to companies that have expertise 209 00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:33,750 to be able to submit that grant so thank you for doing that and it's really great that 210 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:34,750 we got it. 211 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,080 Congratulations. 212 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:49,520 I have a question about how we will share those results back with the city for people who might 213 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,500 be thinking about doing something like this at home and also of course how we will use it 214 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:59,980 As a city going forward is that part of the plans later, once the... 215 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,100 Project has been implemented and you have data to talk about. 216 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,440 Yes. Thank you, commissioner. Sheets for the question. The report would be posted on our sustainability 217 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:17,460 page after the project is complete, for sure. And then along the way we'll be sharing information 218 00:20:17,460 --> 00:20:20,120 as well through the usual outlets. 219 00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:35,060 Okay. We will move on next to old business. And the first item is the Shoreland Management 220 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:40,300 ordinance development. Quarney to spread around if you want to kick this off or if you want one of the 221 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:48,780 committee members to kick it off. Thank you, Vice Chair Stein. I can give some background for launching into 222 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:58,660 discussion. So as an initiative of the Goal Won ordinance and policy development committee, 223 00:20:58,660 --> 00:21:07,480 there are 20 on their 2025 work plan, the committee is exploring and working to develop 224 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,600 a shoreline ordinance for recommendation of approval by the City Council. 225 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:20,200 Currently, the city does not have a shoreline ordinance, if adopted, there's a placeholder 226 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:31,120 under Title 15, environmental standards of city code, and the surely ordinance would serve 227 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:37,100 to protect natural water bodies within the city. They're not already protected under current 228 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:42,940 city code, such as we already have a wetland ordinance, so it would be water bodies other than 229 00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:48,000 that would be a part of this proposed ordinance. 230 00:21:49,820 --> 00:21:51,740 In the past couple of work sessions, 231 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,680 the Commission has briefly discussed the ordinance 232 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,820 and Shorland ordinances in general. 233 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:02,760 At the July work session, it was briefly discussed. 234 00:22:03,660 --> 00:22:07,360 There was a comment that we need to obtain 235 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:10,140 more public information on water bodies 236 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:18,380 with in Mendoza Heights, especially Lake Augusta, might pose a specific challenge because 237 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:26,680 that water level continues to rise since it's a landlocked basin, so the established 238 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,200 ordinary high water level, which is usually what we're basing setbacks and regulations 239 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:40,920 on in a Shorlan ordinance would maybe not be relevant. So that's something that we will have to 240 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:51,080 work out during discussion. I have reached out to the DNR to get advice and also will possibly 241 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:59,220 be working with the WML who's been heavily involved in Lake Augusta as well to get some input from 242 00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:09,980 but that will possibly pose a challenge and then also at the July work session, the commission 243 00:23:09,980 --> 00:23:16,680 talked about including non-public water bodies, a couple of them into the ordinance, 244 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:24,700 possibly such as Ivy Falls Creek and Interstate Valley Creek. So at this time, the commission 245 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:33,000 is just asked to continue to the discussion, add any comments into the template or the draft 246 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:40,980 ordinance that has been distributed and is in your packet. Committee members, school one 247 00:23:40,980 --> 00:23:47,940 committee members have already made some comments. Everyone is encouraged to continue to make 248 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:52,180 comments including the commission as a whole as well and suggestions. 249 00:23:59,030 --> 00:24:04,010 And I guess I'll start out with a few comments from the, from the ordinance committee. 250 00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:11,350 You may remember some of this discussion from our work session, but I guess I think the view 251 00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:18,870 of the committee so far is that this model that the DNR has put forward is quite comprehensive 252 00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:26,670 and in my opinion, good, so we, at least our comments so far, we're not really suggesting 253 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:34,190 too many changes to that other than they have some suggested ways to clarify and make 254 00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:39,750 it me be easier to enforce, or easier for the for citizens and the whole builders and 255 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:47,090 others to understand. But for the most part, I think, we've been our read through this whole 256 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:52,730 it is pretty long and kind of daunting. You look at the length of it. But I think it's quite 257 00:24:52,730 --> 00:24:57,150 comprehensive and quite clear. There's some pictures and graphics that help you understand 258 00:24:57,150 --> 00:24:59,750 some of the dimensions, the key dimensions, that's good. 259 00:25:01,660 --> 00:25:17,890 I see quorum newspaper has put in some of the put in the public water bodies that are in Mendoza Heights on page 21, right, which would be Rogers Lake, Lake Augusta, let me lake, unclub lake, 260 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:24,920 and then on the next page has added those two creeks that she mentioned too. 261 00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:33,760 So again, this would have applicability only to public water bodies or if we choose to 262 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,460 add any to those. 263 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:41,280 That's what that's kind of a helpful to understand. 264 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,780 I guess what the applicability of this is. 265 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:54,470 It's just a jump in. 266 00:25:55,130 --> 00:25:57,090 Thank you for the summary. 267 00:25:57,090 --> 00:26:07,510 Thank you for joining me for reviewing it, I know it's a heavy lift, so appreciate that as well. 268 00:26:08,150 --> 00:26:10,770 Just reflecting on our July session. 269 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:19,290 We also said with your recommendation saying that the optional text that isn't blue, 270 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:22,290 I just want to return to that. 271 00:26:22,550 --> 00:26:26,170 I recall you said that a lot of those seem also quite reasonable. 272 00:26:27,030 --> 00:26:29,330 So maybe we could bring those up to speed. 273 00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:31,130 We're not there. 274 00:26:32,170 --> 00:26:33,290 Just address those. 275 00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:36,430 There are optional parts in blue. 276 00:26:37,710 --> 00:26:39,290 And get in the comments on those. 277 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:48,860 Yeah, and there is quite a bit of, 278 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,900 did you kind of flip through this? 279 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:56,710 It is just a summary. 280 00:26:56,710 --> 00:27:02,530 throughout the entire text. There are sections that are highlighted in blue, which the 281 00:27:02,530 --> 00:27:09,270 DNR have said are stipulated as optional. So it's implemented, but it would go above 282 00:27:09,270 --> 00:27:14,050 and beyond. It's a very more conversational kind of looking at all those in pretty reasonable. 283 00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:24,490 So it sounded like we'd feel comfortable recommending keeping those optional texts inside of 284 00:27:24,490 --> 00:27:28,750 Yeah, and I'm trying to find a good example, maybe, as the best way to... 285 00:27:34,350 --> 00:27:40,090 Page 17, there's a big flu section that has a line for it to note that. 286 00:27:41,170 --> 00:27:49,270 The one I was looking for was the one related to, like, decks where there was some... 287 00:27:49,270 --> 00:27:59,130 In their basic language, it says decks that are, I think, set greater than three-foot above the ground line, right? 288 00:27:59,130 --> 00:28:05,650 And their suggestion was just like, just for simplicity, just make it all, all decks, right? 289 00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:08,570 So that's an example of that I think we should just... 290 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:09,550 It's a team I think. 291 00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:10,990 Page 13? 292 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:11,690 Page 13? 293 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:30,050 I think that there's, you know, there are a lot of them. 294 00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:33,890 We should definitely include them for consideration. 295 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:37,230 You know, probably a few that don't quite fit that. 296 00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:43,400 On page 48, 297 00:28:44,640 --> 00:29:11,580 As we get into 47, 48, 49, that also provides a lot of optional types of health and one thing that another conversation we had talked and brought to the table last week in the July session was around vegetation and so we want to make sure to tie our urban forestry land ordinance to this document because that's quite a robust ordinance so I just want to make sure to align that. 298 00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:30,580 And even 8.2.4 on page 48, we even said maybe that line A, 8.2.4 A vegetation to be maintained to screen structures, vehicles, or other facilities, 299 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:37,800 at least 50% as viewed from the water and that was even proposed in the previous session 300 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:48,500 that that could be maintained actually at 100% of leaving it be as where it was instead 301 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:51,060 of allowing any vegetation removal. 302 00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:55,040 Do I remember that correctly from our discussion? 303 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Yeah, so to change this by at least or change the by at least 50% to a higher. 304 00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:05,980 That was the discussion, so that's, that's why I bring it here. 305 00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:13,820 Yeah, so I guess my suggestion, I guess at this point, because it is a pretty lengthy draft, 306 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,280 is kind of go through those and, yeah, if you see anything like that, particularly where 307 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,600 you think, you know, we should be more stringent. 308 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:31,220 Yeah, those will be good ones to like flag 309 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,020 and have some discussion on, I think. 310 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,000 So yeah, in conclusion, because there's a word document or something 311 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,460 or we're putting in comments. 312 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:46,040 So yeah, I think that's a good way to do it. 313 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,500 But we were also at a Google Doc, so I'm kind. 314 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,740 But I think we're mostly operating within them. 315 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:54,620 I forget what's fun. 316 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,720 It's been a little while. 317 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,160 We're a document or the Google Doc. 318 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,300 Yes, and if I can just enter a jack, 319 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:08,240 So the burden that is in your packet is the most recent version that I have with comments. 320 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:16,400 So if commissioners have additional comments, such as Commissioner Tuning's comment, if 321 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,840 you can send those to me in writing so I can incorporate them in the document if you don't 322 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120 if you can't or don't want to put them in the document yourself. 323 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:32,180 So we can make sure to include everyone's comments for bringing it back to the group. 324 00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:38,140 Yes. I'm happy to look back. I think I also have notes on the computer from the July session, 325 00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:42,440 so I'm happy to review that and send it over at thank you. Of course. 326 00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:48,460 And that is a good point to make sure we add, I guess, cross-reference are other ordinances, 327 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:53,020 like the tree preservation ordinance, the other one that's in here quite a bit is like impervious surfaces, 328 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,800 which we have a separate ordinance for that too. 329 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,740 So if that's, yeah, we'll just have to work on, 330 00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:05,630 I guess if that one is more stringent 331 00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:09,130 than some of this, maybe we just need to provide reference over to that. 332 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,160 So there's some more work to be done there today to see how the impervious surface materialness 333 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,820 ordinance measures or doesn't measure with what we've already adopted. 334 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,200 The name of the ordinance is called impervious services ordinance. 335 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:48,640 I will have to check if you just go to our city code online and put that keyword in, it will pop up. 336 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960 I can try to do that. 337 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,640 All you are continuing to discuss and bring that back to you, the official. 338 00:32:58,100 --> 00:32:59,800 I want to look it up, though. 339 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,840 You should make one subcommittee that looking for some of those cross-reference things might be a good, 340 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,980 but whatever for us to do. 341 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,840 That's your assignment for next thing. 342 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,040 Yeah. 343 00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:16,920 And then the other part of that. 344 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,940 I'm not sure what it's called. 345 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,560 If it's called Improvis Service, but that's really what it covers is if you're, but it covers 346 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:27,500 not just these lots that are along these public water bodies, it's city-wide. 347 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:36,480 So it's how much, you know, of a lot can be covered by structure, driveway, sidewalk, you know, 348 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,540 any impervious surface. 349 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:45,360 So it's a little more applicable to more, basically, city-wide, whereas this is applicable 350 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,300 to just certain lots along these water bodies 351 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,890 and 352 00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,640 I know this is a long, long ordinance. 353 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:10,160 But yeah, it's, I don't know any other way than kind of to slog through it, do you see what 354 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,620 come in? 355 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:19,800 I think there were a few, and I slogged through a couple of months ago, so in memory there were 356 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,820 a few sections that were less applicable to our city. 357 00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:26,260 So that's also a point where we can look at removal. 358 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:54,520 I mean, it appears that it gets more specific about, you know, the impervious surfaces or trees, that type of thing as you could deeper into it and I appreciate you leaving the blue sections in there, I think that makes sense if it doesn't, you know, is it redundant or contrary to what else is written in another variance? 359 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,760 There's nothing. 360 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:58,540 Cornelius Spider looks like he found. 361 00:35:00,340 --> 00:35:11,740 Yes, so it is 12, title 12, for a six, and it's entitled just impervious surface requirements. 362 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,680 Yes, so to a clear answer. 363 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:28,220 I think the committee should sort of compare this to what the requirements are in the shoreland ordinance, 364 00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:37,910 And kind of see which, you know, if the requirements in this are all more restrictive than what's in this, we could probably just 365 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:40,310 provide a cross reference to this one. 366 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,160 Thank you for doing that. 367 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:59,560 So any other comments on the ordinance? 368 00:35:59,860 --> 00:36:02,240 I know it's kind of long and yeah. 369 00:36:02,740 --> 00:36:03,120 A lot of that. 370 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:03,840 But importantly. 371 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,320 Yeah. 372 00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:07,720 Thank you for your work. 373 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,320 I think it'll be wonderful when it's complete. 374 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:12,700 All right. 375 00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:13,960 Let's move on to. 376 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,960 University of Valley Creek Stabilization and BMT, BMP Project Tour, Cornelian Schneider. 377 00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:32,560 Thank you, Vice Chair Stein. In lieu of our August meeting, as you know, we took a tour 378 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:42,640 of the recently completed Interstate Valley Creek Stabilization and BMP project. We made it 379 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:50,020 you all of the areas within the project except for one of the infiltration basins. 380 00:36:51,620 --> 00:37:01,040 But just as a brief overview again, the project included stabilization of two reaches of the 381 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:15,640 in some remandering and it had also included installing a weir to create wetland habitat. 382 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,780 So in the wetland by the ballpark. 383 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,540 So the tour involved seeing all these different aspects of the project. 384 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:31,180 I just have some pictures I was going to kind of click through. 385 00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:35,180 So this is Reach 1. 386 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:45,600 This was a meandering and reshaping stabilization of the stream bank, where the erosion was 387 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,520 the worst throughout the stream bed. 388 00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:51,960 There were over 10 foot vertical banks. 389 00:37:51,960 --> 00:38:04,820 So, they re-meandered the stream to help with rate and energy, just painting some of that energy. 390 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:12,960 They also installed cross veins for different cross veins and stabilized the banks using bioengineering. 391 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:19,660 So route rods from trees were taken and placed in the side of the bank as well as 392 00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:26,180 footer logs to hold the bank using natural materials. You can see the vegetation 393 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:39,400 has already started to fill in quite nicely. There is another photo of the same 394 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:48,540 at a three to one. And there's a photo of the group. Can that reach one? This is a photo 395 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:56,820 of the weir that was taken so you can see the water backing up behind it. This area of the 396 00:38:56,820 --> 00:39:03,480 channel was downcutting quite a bit and so historically there was a weir in place a small 397 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:11,960 place by the DNR that was wooden that had failed quite a few years ago, but the stream continued 398 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,400 to downcut and no longer flooded its banks so that it no longer provided water to the 399 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,700 wetland, the wetland was starting to dry up so this brought back a good amount of hydrology 400 00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:29,700 as you can see to that wetland, we've noticed a lot of waterfall and other wildlife taking advantage 401 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:42,380 of it as well. So next steps for the project, we will be after so currently the public and 402 00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:47,380 and everyone has noticed that Valley Creek Park is under construction for the River 403 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:52,820 to River Greenway Project. So the trail is currently torn up. They're replacing the bridges. 404 00:39:52,820 --> 00:39:59,960 So we are going to wait until that project is substantially completed before doing any 405 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:10,420 More restoration work, there is more restoration work to be done, adding some woodie vegetation, tree plantings, with this project and also with the Greenway project. 406 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:19,740 But we're going to wait on that and kind of do it all once so that we don't risk any more disturbance to new plantings. 407 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:28,320 So that is kind of the next steps for that project, but the Greek project is substantially 408 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:35,360 complete, minus those two things, plantings of the infiltration basin, well basins will 409 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,080 also redone after completion of the Greenway project. 410 00:40:39,580 --> 00:40:47,100 We did have a inspection and walkthrough by the Army Corps of Engineers recently and they 411 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:53,780 had only good things to say. So that was nice to hear as well. And that's all I have. It's 412 00:40:53,780 --> 00:41:00,040 just an update for the commission. The commission's willing to, or welcome to comment, 413 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,080 but no action needed. 414 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:08,960 Any comments from commissioners? I guess especially from CNN in person, 415 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:14,580 And which was great a month, any impressions or comments? 416 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880 Just did it. 417 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:20,740 Really came together quickly and a lot of good work 418 00:41:20,740 --> 00:41:23,600 got done for, it seemed like not a whole lot of budget. 419 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,440 So, good project. 420 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:30,670 That was just, yeah, just see it in person. 421 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,330 I was just really impressed. 422 00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:37,490 Like this weird location here, just the amount of water 423 00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:39,350 that stores in a big, like, rain event. 424 00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:46,330 and can control the velocity of, you know, of the water, you know, going down that stream 425 00:41:46,330 --> 00:41:47,710 and causing so much erosion. 426 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:52,330 Cornelian discrider is mentioned, you know, the water foul that she's starting to see 427 00:41:52,330 --> 00:41:56,990 in this sort of replenished wetland now that, because it had pretty much dried out correct, 428 00:41:57,310 --> 00:42:05,170 you know, from the, from the elevation, I guess, of the creek being kind of like, going 429 00:42:05,170 --> 00:42:05,550 down. 430 00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:19,950 So it kind of drained this whole wetland area, so yeah, just a really impressive project and it's really to me really satisfying because we do a lot of plants and natural resources management plan and the partners and energy plan and just to see 431 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:28,430 See the fruits of that labor kind of come come to life is really cool. So it's is I was very impressed by the project. 432 00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:35,710 And I think it could be really satisfying for a lot of residents to know kind of what was before in 433 00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:36,250 what's after. 434 00:42:36,430 --> 00:42:40,390 And I maybe talked about this at our tour, but if there was even some kind of a placard with 435 00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:43,610 pictures that could be put up to say, this is how it used to look, this is how it looks 436 00:42:43,610 --> 00:42:48,670 now, and educating what was done and why it was done for the local community, because 437 00:42:48,670 --> 00:42:51,430 it is such a heavily used area trail. 438 00:42:51,450 --> 00:42:55,130 You know, once all the trail is completed and so forth, I think that could be really beneficial 439 00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:58,410 to the community in terms of education and just knowledge. 440 00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:07,270 I agree because there's like this area even as is a little bit hidden. 441 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:10,210 And it's like there's so much good work that was done here and I just 442 00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:14,910 that was one one thing I was leaving the field visit with this. 443 00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:17,690 Like I wish more just more citizens from the city. 444 00:43:17,850 --> 00:43:20,810 You can see what was done here because it was really a great project. 445 00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:26,290 I also left thinking a lot about that. 446 00:43:26,290 --> 00:43:28,410 It's a really neat project. 447 00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:30,870 The scale is hard to see in pictures. 448 00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:34,270 This weir is massive project. 449 00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:42,030 And we'll make a large difference to the water flow in that area. 450 00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:46,290 And as a neighbor who walks through this area all the time, 451 00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:50,050 I know that the greenway project is going to be much more 452 00:43:50,050 --> 00:43:50,970 felt by people. 453 00:43:51,310 --> 00:43:54,850 It'll be experience as you're walking on the paths 454 00:43:54,850 --> 00:44:03,070 and you see that, but I do hope the visible parts can be appreciated, and so I do think 455 00:44:03,070 --> 00:44:09,610 there's storytelling that our committee can help in thinking about how do we help share 456 00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:19,630 this in a way that helps understand why this was important and how it will be seen for many 457 00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:24,830 years to come in the different ways that it continues to grow, especially the planting 458 00:44:24,830 --> 00:44:36,600 which already the wildflowers in one of the areas the screen were already quite lovely and it'll be fun to see the native plantings and 459 00:44:36,890 --> 00:44:39,430 trees as they continue to grow too. 460 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,140 One other comment I would make is you can see from being out there just sort of the pressure of all the 461 00:44:48,140 --> 00:44:56,740 invasive species coming at it from all directions and that's why I think I'm proud of our commission that we've been 462 00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:58,880 supportive of. 463 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,320 Maintenance funding to, you know, once the area is like the infiltration basins are seated in 464 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:15,540 planet with native planings that we really prioritize maintaining those areas and kind of holding 465 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:21,680 them because they're under a lot of a lot of pressure if you're not a kind of constantly vigilant. 466 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,560 So, I think that's something that the commission has really been supportive of and I think I'm 467 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,180 about that. 468 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:34,130 Any other comments? 469 00:45:34,610 --> 00:45:37,050 Before we move on, thank you. 470 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:39,650 And next item on the agenda, our staff announcements, 471 00:45:40,130 --> 00:45:40,770 Coordinator Spreiner. 472 00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:44,590 Thank you Vice Chair Stein. 473 00:45:45,630 --> 00:45:52,770 One of or I guess my only announcement is that we have posted 474 00:45:53,530 --> 00:46:00,470 an opening for a new student commissioner on our commission. 475 00:46:01,250 --> 00:46:09,230 very again very appreciative and impressed by the work that Student Commissioner Trudeau had 476 00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:19,850 done. She was with us for two years and so it has moved on and we'll be a senior this year 477 00:46:19,850 --> 00:46:26,490 and it's been busy with all things senior and so we are looking for a new student commissioner. 478 00:46:26,490 --> 00:46:39,570 The posting is on our website and you can go or interested students can go there to look for the application. 479 00:46:39,810 --> 00:46:56,470 They can also stop by City Hall. The term runs from October 25th to August 26th or I'm sorry. 480 00:46:56,470 --> 00:47:14,790 It is open to all high school students in grades 9 through 12 and student commissioners serve as non-boding members of the commission, but very valuable members and that they provide a youth and student perspective to the commission. 481 00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:37,830 So any interested students should submit the student commissioner application, which is different than the the adult or non student application, but submitting that to the city by 10 a.m. on September 19th. 482 00:47:37,830 --> 00:47:48,350 So I encourage anyone that's interested to apply or if anyone knows someone that would be a good fit and encourage them to apply as well, please. 483 00:47:49,110 --> 00:47:50,230 That is all I have. 484 00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:52,130 Thank you. 485 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,280 Okay, next item is commission comments. 486 00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:03,180 Any comments from the commissioners on any other. 487 00:48:03,180 --> 00:48:03,780 Any other items? 488 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,080 Okay, hearing none. 489 00:48:06,460 --> 00:48:07,840 Let's go to committee reports. 490 00:48:09,580 --> 00:48:20,840 Committee 1 is ordinance and policy development, which we've, I think, already covered anything else we need to, I mean, we're pretty much just on that shoreland ordinance right now. 491 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:30,320 But we will, yeah, we'll kind of tackle some of those where they overlap with some of our other ordinances, maybe as the next step for the committee. 492 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,320 Committee 2, education outreach. 493 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:45,560 We've done that recently, but we will be meeting soon to discuss the T, the whole one project. 494 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:48,060 The project. 495 00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,440 And the valley park project. 496 00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:53,560 We should talk about that. 497 00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:53,900 Great. 498 00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:58,740 I would also say, just as part of the commission, because it's outreach and education. 499 00:48:58,980 --> 00:49:04,920 I think it also be a lovely thing to hear from the public more on what they would like to see more from our commission. 500 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:12,720 and really create a good channel of communication so we can gather your priorities as well and bring that back to the 501 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,720 nature of your resources commission. 502 00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:17,900 So please public engagement, we'd like to hear from you. 503 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:23,260 Okay, 23 year, I've been forestry and restoration. 504 00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:33,260 We may meet tomorrow to discuss a planning by the stormwater pond at the Mendoza Village. 505 00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:43,610 That's too easy to determine, but we're different meetings soon, so maybe look and add some 506 00:49:43,610 --> 00:49:44,070 involved in it. 507 00:49:44,350 --> 00:49:45,650 Okay, that's good. 508 00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:48,170 Committee for Strategic Planning? 509 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:55,730 Yep, so we've had a busy year because we've got two line items on our work plan. 510 00:49:55,790 --> 00:49:59,970 One is Valley Park to create a site-specific strategic. 511 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:24,680 So, we've been very fortunate to bring all of the stakeholders together in the last months, so that was the WMO, and to go to county and be able to do site visits as well with coordinators, brighter, to really get an idea of all of the different projects and the timelines, because there's a lot going on, and there's a lot of overlap between the different organizations. 512 00:50:25,980 --> 00:50:47,620 So we met with all the stakeholders a couple of months ago decide that it was helpful to meet again, so we'll plan to do that at the in December at the end of the year with hopefully an updated GIS file with all of the most recent updates on the different projects. 513 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:56,640 So that has been great to bring everybody together and get everybody aligned on that park, the current status. 514 00:50:58,380 --> 00:51:11,940 And we also decided that it makes sense to delay the site specific natural resources management plan for Valley Park until after all of this work comes down and settles down. 515 00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:16,020 So we looked as delaying that until 2026, 2027. 516 00:51:17,020 --> 00:51:19,540 So in the meantime, we'll just continue the updates 517 00:51:19,540 --> 00:51:21,640 with the stakeholder groups. 518 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,380 And then keep an eye on, of course, as you mentioned, 519 00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:30,280 invasive, it's like a non-going battle against invasive. 520 00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:32,300 So just keeping an eye on that as well. 521 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,700 And coordinator, Sprite has been great about keeping 522 00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:38,340 us updated on the vegetation situation. 523 00:51:39,740 --> 00:51:46,280 Yeah, so that is Valley Park, the second point on our work plan is exploring potential funding 524 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:53,280 sources. And so we have looked at, as mentioned in previous meeting, the Climate Action 525 00:51:53,280 --> 00:52:00,560 Planning Grant. And in our last meeting yesterday, we also started discussing other potentials, 526 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,320 but important is also to make sure that we have a good idea of what we're wanting to, we're 527 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,360 projects we're wanting to fund. So they're very happy to also open that up to the wider group as 528 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,880 well as we move into planning for 2026. 529 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,580 Commissioner to mean the the climate action planning grant 530 00:52:23,580 --> 00:52:28,760 you mentioned is that? Is that out or have a deadline? It's still out. It's still out. It's yet. 531 00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:30,260 Okay, as I said, okay. 532 00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:38,280 Thank you for that update. The sustainability committee, I think we're going to 533 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:45,580 our video that was produced by Town Square, but I guess I just mentioned before that we are 534 00:52:45,580 --> 00:52:52,060 kind of in the initial stages of Commissioner Canoson, who's the other commissioner on this 535 00:52:52,060 --> 00:52:57,500 committee and we've had some initial discussions with Coordinator Sprider on possibly some more 536 00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:02,760 direct outreach with the businesses to try to get the businesses more engaged in this work 537 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:10,160 maybe it's going to take some more kind of like face-to-face interaction. So just some discussion 538 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:20,300 going on there. The little background on this video, which has been, I think, was finalized in July, 539 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:26,620 I believe, and was put on town squares, website, the city's website, our social media feeds, 540 00:53:27,380 --> 00:53:31,400 and so if you didn't see that, it's just a few minutes long, so we're going to go ahead and play that. 541 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:40,340 Thank you Vice Chair Stein, as you've mentioned, was done by 542 00:53:40,340 --> 00:53:44,080 Town Square TV as an Insight 7 story. 543 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,080 And it was filmed at Vice Chair Stein's home. 544 00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,880 So it's only a few minutes long, but I will play it. 545 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,760 water in 2024. 546 00:54:16,220 --> 00:54:18,740 The initial line right with the cell energy on the 547 00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:19,980 car is an energy flow. 548 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,200 The cell energy flow is going to be flow now. 549 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,180 This is program that cell energy flow. 550 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,800 The water has to be as you are interested in developing 551 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,620 an implemented cross-bite energy action plan. 552 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,560 And the process that we use for that is we partner with local 553 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,040 stakeholders and community leaders to identify 554 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,140 about energy levels, cities, and physical activities. 555 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:47,360 And then we actually develop an actual plan that will achieve those goals. 556 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,680 For that energy actually, to any of those residents, commissioners, we have had some students, 557 00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:57,280 cities that have to form this actual plan. 558 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,980 And on that we came up with three goals. 559 00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:03,720 The Court has said this was a good option. 560 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,000 We are now in the Correscent for the Board of Justice. 561 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:13,780 The State would say that the State would say that the State would say that the State would say that the State would never be in the Senate for a vote as to save the money as well. 562 00:55:14,780 --> 00:55:16,280 The State would say that the State would be action-man. 563 00:55:16,420 --> 00:55:22,840 I will also say that 1.6 million dollars in energy costs, and avoiding 9,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide, 564 00:55:23,060 --> 00:55:25,860 a cliddly, of greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. 565 00:55:26,380 --> 00:55:31,080 The approach I think we have taken here in our house, is like we really look for things that will just save us money, 566 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,520 because all of us have better things to spend money on than utility bills, right? 567 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:43,500 Natural resources commissioner will sign, has been making gradual upgrades toward energy efficiency around his home. 568 00:55:44,020 --> 00:55:47,240 Convenience of just not having to worry gas, not having to get oil changes. 569 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,420 Over several years, the signs have upgraded to an electric car, electric lawn-care tools. 570 00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:55,480 The lawn more distinct, it's the same battery that just takes one. 571 00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:01,640 an induction stove. Preheats up the pan or the contents of the pan so that you need to be like 572 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:07,880 staying still or whatever. A heat pump dryer. So instead of, you know, burn in natural gas or 573 00:56:08,540 --> 00:56:13,840 region electric resistance heat to create heat. It again uses heat pump technology. And more. 574 00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:17,940 So we've done a lot of upgrades but we haven't done them like all in like one time. 575 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:22,540 It's like they've been really stretched out over 15, 17 years now. 576 00:56:23,020 --> 00:56:27,660 And I don't know how it's residents can qualify for home energy squad visits through Excel. 577 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,780 So, they were here at our house for about two and a half hours. 578 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:38,800 Shortly after that, they send you a nice written report that summarizes everything, recommendations, potential incentives and rebates 579 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,760 that are out there available. If you're looking at doing one of the upgrades too, that would be the first step I would take. 580 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,660 If you want to get more involved with this effort because they do a lot of the work for you. 581 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:55,380 We've got inefficient lighting or other things I'll just go ahead and replace those things for you if it's with your permission obviously. 582 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,700 Opportunities for businesses are also available through partners and energy. 583 00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:04,620 And those might be in the areas of energy efficient programs that they can participate in. 584 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,460 They might be able to participate in renewable programs. 585 00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:13,980 Some companies have renewable goals, and we can help assist them in terms of how they need those renewable goals. 586 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,880 Residents and businesses can learn more about partners and energy opportunities, 587 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,900 including cost saving programs on the city's website. 588 00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:24,320 You know, there's different levels of people's, I guess, 589 00:57:24,540 --> 00:57:26,640 interest in environmental issues and things like that. 590 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:28,420 And to me, that's not even the critical issue. 591 00:57:28,460 --> 00:57:33,840 I think if you just focus on the improvements that are going to save you money, 592 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,300 make your life more convenient. 593 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:41,380 If you implement those things, a lot of the rest of the benefits will come along for the ride. 594 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:43,920 For insight 7, this is Carmen Talk. 595 00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:52,590 Yeah, so they really took a lot of video and took a lot of 596 00:57:52,590 --> 00:58:04,390 And so Kudos to Townsburg TV for putting all that together in a short, but I think I just think they did a really nice job putting all that together. 597 00:58:05,110 --> 00:58:06,790 So thanks for letting them into your house. 598 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:22,940 And I think you also highlight the point that not everybody is motivated from the natural resources side, but the financial side is very important factors to take into consideration. 599 00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:28,080 Yeah. Yeah, in addition to that, I would add just some of the convenience of these, like, 600 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,700 the EVs are the best example. It just saves you a lot of chores. 601 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,200 For, like, that's what I like about some of that. It's just a simplified your life. 602 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,500 And, yeah, it's definitely worth looking into some of these things. 603 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,960 So that's all for committee reports. 604 00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:52,850 And that's the last thing on our agenda. 605 00:58:53,290 --> 00:58:55,590 Is there a motion to adjourn? 606 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:58,590 The motion to adjourn by Commissioner McKazzlin. 607 00:58:58,790 --> 00:58:59,410 Is there a second? 608 00:58:59,570 --> 00:59:00,090 Second. 609 00:59:00,170 --> 00:59:01,510 Second by Commissioner Dawl. 610 00:59:01,730 --> 00:59:02,650 All in favor say aye. 611 00:59:02,990 --> 00:59:03,290 Aye. 612 00:59:03,970 --> 00:59:04,750 And we adjourn. 613 00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:05,410 Thank you, Paul.