[1:48] sent the changes. We were all going to
[1:51] talk about that. I sent those to Terry
[1:52] and a few other folks to get their their
[1:55] feedback.
[1:57] And um I'm just curious if you guys have
[2:00] feedback as well or would you like to
[2:02] hear Terry's first and we can do his
[2:06] event at the same time? What I hear to
[2:09] hear a user.
[2:10] >> Yeah, I would love to hear from people
[2:11] that are going to use it.
[2:12] >> Yeah. Go ahead, Terry.
[2:13] >> I mean, the changes that you proposed to
[2:15] me, you know, seems great. I mean, it's
[2:17] more efficient for you guys to not have
[2:19] to deal with the same old thing and take
[2:20] time and as an event planner, too, to
[2:23] not have to go through that, you know,
[2:24] form every year. Um, or an abbreviated
[2:27] version of it would be great. Yeah,
[2:29] >> nothing really changes in our event
[2:31] premier year unless um there's a traffic
[2:34] change which we could alert one to cuz
[2:36] one year the uh the bridges out on
[2:39] school street changed our course
[2:41] >> right
[2:42] >> you know but that other than that I
[2:43] don't think I've changed anything over
[2:44] the years um co it changed too obviously
[2:48] >> right
[2:49] >> um but uh from year to year it's just
[2:51] pretty much the same thing so it's a lot
[2:54] easier it's sort of an assumed thing
[2:56] that typically lesser
[2:59] There should be a clause there that says
[3:00] if there's any major change,
[3:03] >> you know, you need to be alerted.
[3:05] >> Yep, I do have that in there.
[3:07] >> Any major changes to the event would
[3:09] require the organizer to resubmit a
[3:11] special event permit
[3:13] >> and seek approval from the select board.
[3:15] >> Yeah, sounds good.
[3:16] >> Um, I know David had a concern at the
[3:19] last meeting about whether or not um we
[3:22] would be doing a disservice to the event
[3:24] and not putting you in front of the
[3:25] select board and getting a little bit
[3:27] more promotion or communication. So, any
[3:32] concerns about that?
[3:33] >> Um, yeah, I I guess you know that is a
[3:36] valid point, but I I think that the
[3:38] event
[3:39] >> I'm I'm not concerned about it for my
[3:40] event. I don't know if other event
[3:43] >> Yeah.
[3:43] >> planners have expressed that. Uh, we
[3:46] tend to get the word out with our email
[3:48] list, with Facebook, with um, you know,
[3:51] word of mouth, with Next Door. Um I'm
[3:55] not so sure that uh the select board
[3:57] meeting is is a major form of getting
[4:00] the word out and getting the public in
[4:02] this. You know, it was something to
[4:04] consider. For sure.
[4:05] >> Well, we can certainly put it under
[4:07] announcements
[4:09] >> and we can also put it on the website
[4:11] too so that we're at least talking about
[4:13] it.
[4:14] >> Yeah. Okay.
[4:14] >> Um that's one thought. Any other
[4:17] questions or comments from
[4:20] >> No, I was just looking through the
[4:21] application. It is very lengthy. If
[4:23] you're going to do it every single year
[4:24] and you're just changing it, it's it's
[4:26] something that I would support
[4:30] those that are going to have events
[4:32] yearly, which we have half a dozen or
[4:34] more that we
[4:37] um streamline the system for them
[4:39] because we've got all the information at
[4:41] one time unless like you said something
[4:43] changes.
[4:43] >> Yeah. But if uh if there's an event
[4:46] coming up, it is best if you come in and
[4:49] say, "Hey, we got this event coming up."
[4:51] And you got to fill out the paperwork,
[4:52] but as a free advertisement kind of
[4:54] thing for through the uh select board, I
[4:56] think that would be
[4:58] >> uh an outstanding thing to do. So, um I
[5:01] agree this is a long process. Uh I was
[5:03] just looking through all the pages and
[5:05] that and if you're doing it every single
[5:07] year, I mean, you could just rubber
[5:09] stamp it most of the time.
[5:12] So I we will be discussing this a little
[5:14] bit later too on
[5:16] >> I'd like to just if you guys are okay
[5:18] with it I'd like to just do it now so
[5:19] that we could in fact um cuz we were
[5:22] talking last time about entertaining
[5:24] doing Terry's as the first one
[5:28] >> and I can um in talking with Becky and
[5:30] Andrea I can put it as a condition on
[5:33] this particular application. So that
[5:35] would take care of that need. Um, but I
[5:39] just wanted to make and I wanted to make
[5:41] sure that each person who has to go
[5:43] through this feels okay with it. The
[5:46] original suggestion came from Bob Henry
[5:48] when we were talking last fall. So, um,
[5:52] >> again, just just going through the whole
[5:53] thing as far as doing that. I I think if
[5:55] you're uh going to be here annually that
[5:59] unless something drastically changes, we
[6:01] should have u uh simplify the forms for that kind of application. If you're
[6:07] new, you you fill out the full
[6:09] application. If you're not and you're
[6:11] just you would just be amending the
[6:14] application with a new date and unless
[6:17] circumstances change.
[6:18] >> Yeah. Maybe like if it was a onepage
[6:20] form that check box is like something's
[6:22] changed, saying that just alerted that
[6:25] still happening.
[6:26] >> And again, it would be
[6:28] >> a little bit of an advertising. I guess
[6:29] if there's just a one page kind of
[6:31] >> Yeah. And again,
[6:33] uh, probably a week or so before we'd
[6:35] like to have some representative come
[6:37] from whoever it is just to speak at, you
[6:40] know, what it is. Again, people probably
[6:42] know, but just to get it out there.
[6:45] >> Sure.
[6:45] >> So,
[6:46] >> yeah. So,
[6:47] >> if you want to.
[6:48] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[6:49] >> Well, yeah.
[6:50] >> It's not a bad idea. It doesn't take
[6:52] much time. It's on my way home from
[6:53] work. So,
[6:54] >> yeah. And with this as far as
[6:56] >> I'm thinking on things like this um we
[6:59] could do the announcements possibly at
[7:00] the beginning of the meeting just as a
[7:02] regular like review of what's going on
[7:04] in Northfield to be a little bit more
[7:06] community focused
[7:09] um on our announcements. A lot of times
[7:11] it's, you know, certain deadlines and
[7:13] things like that, but we do want to be
[7:15] promoting like what the recreation,
[7:16] especially all the recreation
[7:19] >> things like this past weekend was so
[7:22] loaded. And I guess um also Misha said
[7:25] that there was so much going on that she
[7:27] couldn't because of the rain reschedule
[7:29] the dog show because there's so much
[7:31] going on in Northfield.
[7:33] >> Um so this is a policy change. we can
[7:36] work on the um Becky had some ideas on
[7:38] what would make sense for her too. I
[7:40] want to make sure that it works for the
[7:42] town administrative assistant. I think
[7:44] as long as we're okay with the concept
[7:48] of that it would be approved for
[7:50] multiple years. I'm just assuming three,
[7:52] but I needed your feedback on that. And
[7:55] I'm also assuming I I wrote in here that
[7:57] the event organizer, so in this case,
[8:00] Terry and and others from Monster Dash
[8:04] must continue to notify and coordinate
[8:06] with the town administrative assistant,
[8:08] police chief, EMS chief, fire chief,
[8:10] highway superintendent and
[8:12] superintendent, I mean sewer
[8:14] superintendent in a timely manner. So
[8:17] your application would basically remain
[8:19] the same, but your um
[8:21] >> communication,
[8:21] >> you would still do the communication and
[8:23] coordination. So, yeah.
[8:27] >> Anything else?
[8:29] >> No.
[8:29] >> Okay. Are you guys okay with this
[8:31] change? And then, um, Becky and Andrea
[8:34] can work. Mostly Becky can work on the
[8:36] details. We could even put some of this.
[8:38] Do you have any thoughts, Becky? I know
[8:40] we could do an online um, you know,
[8:43] we've streamlined another form and we
[8:45] could put it online, too. That would be
[8:47] easier. And then it just mails it into
[8:49] the town administrative assistant.
[8:51] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[8:53] Okay. All right. Um
[8:58] Bernie, do you have any thoughts? Are
[8:59] you okay with the policy?
[9:02] >> Yeah, I think it's fine.
[9:03] >> Okay. Shane, are you okay with the
[9:05] policy? Um, so are we seeing three years
[9:07] then?
[9:08] >> That seems to be the the time span that
[9:11] we use for most everything.
[9:12] >> Yeah, like policy review and all of
[9:14] that. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll just fit
[9:17] that into like our policy review
[9:18] schedule, too.
[9:20] >> There.
[9:20] >> You only see us every 3 years.
[9:24] Not unless you want to come. [laughter]
[9:26] >> You can come in and crash anytime. Okay.
[9:29] So, I'll entertain a motion to approve
[9:32] the changes to the special event permit
[9:35] policy and we'll see what we come back
[9:38] with for um streamlining the application
[9:40] going forward. We'll leave that in
[9:42] Becky's capable hands.
[9:45] >> So, move.
[9:46] >> Seconded.
[9:46] >> All those in favor?
[9:47] >> I I
[9:49] >> Terry's in favor too. So, um, on to the
[9:52] actual events.
[9:53] >> Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the
[9:57] Northfield Monster-5K.
[10:00] It's on
[10:02] October 4th, 2026 from 7 a.m.
[10:05] >> 24th.
[10:06] >> Oh, 24th. That's right.
[10:09] >> Near October 4th here. Okay.
[10:11] >> October 24th 24th.
[10:14] >> All right.
[10:14] >> Thank you. That's what I get for reading
[10:16] that instead of this. on the 24th from
[10:20] 7:00 am till noon
[10:24] um waving the fees as they're a
[10:26] >> nonprofit
[10:28] >> and this and with the condition that
[10:30] this would be good for 3 years according
[10:32] to the new policy.
[10:33] >> Yep.
[10:34] >> Okay.
[10:34] >> Second.
[10:35] >> All those in favor?
[10:36] >> I
[10:38] >> thank you.
[10:39] Hope to see uh hope to see
[10:41] you guys there dressed up maybe
[10:45] >> certainly be there supporting. Yeah, you
[10:47] can bike, you can walk or
[10:49] >> volunteer or volunteer.
[10:52] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you need
[10:53] volunteers, too.
[10:54] >> Always. Yeah.
[10:55] >> Oh, okay.
[10:56] >> Yeah. Yeah. The church is getting
[10:58] smaller and smaller. Uh so it's hard to
[11:01] get enough volunteers sometimes. So
[11:03] yeah.
[11:04] >> Okay. So we'll put that out there there
[11:05] that see that's the kind of thing that
[11:07] we would put in the announcements like
[11:08] if you're and if anything if you want to
[11:11] put anything on the website, talk to
[11:12] Becky as well. We'll put a little
[11:14] announcement and send it out.
[11:16] >> Okay.
[11:16] >> Yeah. Cool.
[11:18] >> Great. Thank you.
[11:19] >> Thank you.
[11:21] Awesome.
[11:24] » Okay. No. Trinity Solar. Um
[11:28] Tom, you want to come up?
[11:32] We'll get going with you sooner rather
[11:34] than later.
[11:41] » Hello.
[11:42] How's it going?
[11:44] >> Good.
[11:45] >> Any um first of all, anything going on
[11:47] like weatherwise? Well, we know there's
[11:49] weather going on, but anything uh I
[11:52] always think of you when when there's
[11:53] weather. [laughter]
[11:55] >> Nothing exciting going on.
[11:57] >> No. And we know winter's coming. So,
[12:00] yeah. Okay.
[12:00] >> Dreading it, but we know what's coming.
[12:02] >> Yes. Yes. All right. Where would you
[12:04] like to start? [clears throat]
[12:06] >> Whatever you want.
[12:08] You can do projects that we've done or
[12:11] >> Sure. I mean, a lot of stuff that we've
[12:14] done, we of course everybody knows
[12:16] Highland a all that area was paid,
[12:18] >> right?
[12:19] >> We still got a little a few more issues
[12:21] here or there. Uh there's a water line
[12:23] issue up there that I'm hoping they get
[12:25] fixed.
[12:26] >> Oh, where about
[12:27] >> right by the golf course? It's been
[12:29] leaking for a year.
[12:30] >> Okay.
[12:31] >> That's the one that let go a while ago.
[12:33] One of them.
[12:34] >> Yeah, it's a water shut off. They I
[12:36] don't know why they haven't dug it up.
[12:38] It's getting worse. So, I've emailed
[12:40] them and contacted them because it's
[12:43] starting to wash out into the road. The
[12:44] water's out in the road every morning
[12:46] now. So, I mean, it's just going to be a
[12:47] nice problem come winter time. Before it
[12:50] kind of stayed off the side of the road,
[12:52] I think it's cuz everything.
[12:56] Um, we still got one more swale to do on
[13:01] Burnham Road from the paving up there.
[13:04] We're trying to get caught up this week
[13:05] on that.
[13:08] uh several coverts all around town that
[13:10] have either collapsed or in the verge of
[13:13] collapsing. We replaced. We still got
[13:14] more to do with the weather holds out.
[13:18] Uh the big project on War Road that we
[13:20] were going to do, we put on hold because
[13:22] we had a bunch of rain the week we were
[13:24] supposed to start.
[13:26] And the water department still doesn't
[13:28] have
[13:30] they had a contractor. They had some of
[13:33] the pipe. They didn't have I don't think
[13:35] everything. So, they put it on hold till
[13:39] next summer. The permits are good for 3
[13:41] years.
[13:42] >> I'm hoping the water department I think
[13:45] they were talking about getting all the
[13:46] stuff now so they have it, the pipe, the
[13:49] fittings.
[13:51] >> Um, but it got so wet for a while. We
[13:54] got to control the water every day and
[13:55] that's that could be a problem down
[13:58] there as to where we pump it, how we
[14:00] pump it.
[14:02] So hopefully it'll be dry come June next
[14:05] year. We'll be able to do it right off
[14:06] like after school closes. Um so we don't
[14:09] have to worry about the buses cuz it's
[14:11] going to be closed down for probably 3
[14:12] weeks, 3 to 4 weeks by the time we dig
[14:14] it all out and do the whole project. But
[14:18] we are so everybody knows tomorrow we're
[14:21] running a skim coat of black top to get
[14:23] it through the winter cuz it is bad. Not
[14:26] saying it's not. So we're going to patch
[14:28] it all tomorrow.
[14:30] Um,
[14:30] >> that's good. Somebody asked me if you
[14:32] were going to touch that road up a
[14:34] little bit.
[14:34] >> Yeah, that's tomorrow's [snorts]
[14:35] schedule right now.
[14:36] >> Save me a question.
[14:37] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[14:40] >> Um, so that'll, like I said, will go
[14:42] next year. Um,
[14:45] and then we're just continue to do our
[14:46] normal leaves grading.
[14:50] Uh, we've been doing a lot of it's been
[14:52] a hectic summer with tree work.
[14:54] Obviously, you've heard here probably
[14:57] several times on issues of trees with
[14:59] the power company and
[15:02] they're pretty much done.
[15:04] >> Okay, that was going to be one of my
[15:06] questions.
[15:06] >> Um, they got I think a few more trees on
[15:11] old turnpike road to take down, which
[15:13] they were supposed to do this week. I
[15:14] haven't seen them up there. And then
[15:15] there were a few more on War Road. And I
[15:17] think the project that they were doing
[15:20] is pretty well done.
[15:21] >> Mhm.
[15:23] the solar project have been involved
[15:24] with that. They finally did the
[15:27] retention ponds that I asked for for the
[15:30] hopefully solve some of the water
[15:31] problem on Pine Meadow Road one.
[15:34] >> Um,
[15:35] >> which solar project?
[15:36] >> The one on
[15:38] >> the Well, they're A and B. The first one
[15:40] you come here.
[15:41] >> Oh. Oh, the existing the ones that have
[15:43] already been permanent. Okay.
[15:44] >> Yeah. There was a lot of water coming
[15:46] [snorts] out of the field that we've
[15:47] been trying to address.
[15:48] >> Okay. Um, they addressed one side last
[15:51] fall and then they they weren't going to
[15:53] do the other side and they needed me to
[15:56] sign off on the the curb cut and I
[15:59] refused to sign off until we handled the
[16:01] water cuz it overflows our drainage all
[16:03] the time.
[16:04] >> Okay.
[16:04] >> Um, so they did design the retention
[16:06] pond and put in there. We haven't had
[16:09] what rain we've had. It's handled it
[16:11] great. So hopefully it's problem solved.
[16:16] We won't know unless we get one of those
[16:18] monster rains.
[16:21] But they they were very good after
[16:23] everything. It took a while. A lot of
[16:26] back and forth contacts with different
[16:27] people, but we got it solved.
[16:32] And then uh that's pretty much it that
[16:34] we've done so far. We're just still
[16:36] doing a lot of basin repairs,
[16:39] catch basins that are failing or the
[16:42] tops are broke or whatever. We've been
[16:44] doing that
[16:45] and in the next few weeks, just so that
[16:47] everybody knows, they're going to be
[16:49] starting a bunch of projects.
[16:52] We're going to be starting Becky's put
[16:53] it on the website for me, but it's all
[16:56] subject to weather.
[16:57] >> Yeah.
[16:58] >> But Dickinson Street's supposed to be
[17:00] ground on the the 12th
[17:03] and graded and then paving hopefully the
[17:06] 13th.
[17:08] School Street, the small portion from
[17:09] the fire station to the intersection of
[17:12] East Street. Yep.
[17:13] >> is going to get paved at the same time,
[17:15] the 13th, 14th area. East Street's going
[17:19] to get ground next week. And then the
[17:22] sewer department's going to change all
[17:24] their sewer covers. So, if people can
[17:27] avoid East Street, it would be helpful.
[17:30] I mean, we'll have it so residents can
[17:32] get home in and out.
[17:33] >> It's just going to be hectic with the
[17:35] grinding going on and then they all the
[17:37] sewer manholes have to be changed and
[17:39] they're [snorts] all down the middle of
[17:40] the road. Um, so and then they're going
[17:43] to go over to St. Mary Street. This is
[17:48] all within the 13th and 14th on the
[17:51] pavement hopefully, weather permitting.
[17:53] >> Yeah.
[17:53] >> And then old Turnpike Road, the top
[17:56] portion, they're going to they're going
[17:57] to completely rip that up, grade it cuz
[18:00] it's all broken up, uh, and pave that
[18:04] the same time. So,
[18:06] >> Mhm.
[18:06] >> It's going to be busy out in the general
[18:08] area, just so people know.
[18:10] We're going to have a couple detours set
[18:12] up when we start the pavement to make it
[18:14] easier.
[18:15] >> Mhm.
[18:18] >> Yeah.
[18:18] >> So, that's the fall
[18:21] harra, I guess you want to say.
[18:23] >> The last harra before the
[18:25] >> Yeah.
[18:26] >> Um, so this is all on the website. I
[18:29] just noticed cuz I got the email
[18:30] announcement. Thank you very much. Uh,
[18:32] cuz when she posts it, it actually sends
[18:34] out an email, too. Mhm.
[18:36] >> Um so if people aren't signed up for
[18:38] that um they might want to be signed up
[18:40] for that. So then as she changes
[18:42] announcements then they would get
[18:43] notices.
[18:45] >> Um is there
[18:45] >> we're trying to tell all the residents
[18:47] as we're working on the roads if
[18:49] somebody comes to town to expect delays
[18:51] or
[18:52] >> Okay.
[18:52] >> I mean Dickinson Street is pretty easy.
[18:54] There's only four houses on so it's
[18:56] pretty simple. Right.
[18:57] >> We were trying to do it on a Monday when
[18:59] the library is closed but
[19:01] >> and you don't have the food pantry on a
[19:03] Saturday without Yeah, exactly. They got
[19:05] to grind that whole road. So that's why
[19:07] it's going to take a little longer and
[19:09] so the pavement won't be till the end of
[19:10] the week. So we'll try to get it figured
[19:13] out as to how we can get people in there
[19:15] if they have to get into the parking
[19:16] lot.
[19:17] >> Mhm.
[19:18] >> Okay.
[19:18] >> Um cuz that's just going to be a base
[19:20] coat there cuz that's going to be oil
[19:22] and stone next year. So that they can
[19:26] drive on that sooner than like East
[19:28] Street's going to be a final coat and
[19:30] they'll mark it up if they drive on it
[19:32] too soon.
[19:32] >> Mhm.
[19:34] most of the roadside. We got our new
[19:36] roadside mower.
[19:38] >> Yay.
[19:39] >> He's been Yep.
[19:41] >> Uh he's almost done. We've done the
[19:43] whole town almost three times this year
[19:46] >> between all the mowing and stuff.
[19:48] >> Mhm.
[19:49] >> Which people have been really happy
[19:50] about cuz they can see through
[19:52] intersections and
[19:53] >> Yeah.
[19:54] >> other things. I mean, the new mower has
[19:56] only been going for about a month and a
[19:57] half.
[19:58] >> Mhm. But it makes a big difference cuz
[20:00] he can reach a little further and it
[20:03] does a lot better job than the old one
[20:05] was doing. So I do notice a difference.
[20:09] We just had a little We have a little
[20:10] snap of one of registrations. But
[20:13] >> oops.
[20:14] >> Really?
[20:15] >> Did you get pulled over?
[20:16] >> No.
[20:16] We can't get it registered. I have
[20:18] to go to Springfield and try now.
[20:20] >> Oh, no.
[20:21] >> It's a specialty plate and nobody can
[20:23] explain why. Cuz our last one was
[20:24] registered.
[20:25] >> Yeah.
[20:26] >> Normally.
[20:26] >> Oh, interesting. probably because they
[20:28] want more money.
[20:29] >> Well, the last one I I think we figured
[20:32] out a lot of it is because it's a John
[20:33] Deere tractor with a mowing attachment
[20:35] on it.
[20:36] >> This is a full
[20:37] >> This is a mower attachment that's made
[20:39] by this. It's not a John Deere tractor,
[20:42] but the town of Greenfield's going
[20:44] through the same problem. Um I talked to
[20:47] them because I asked what they did and
[20:48] they said, "I don't know. What are you
[20:50] doing?" Because every they've been to
[20:52] two registries in Boston and they won't
[20:54] register it. So, I got to go to what is
[20:57] it? The specialty plates
[20:59] in Springfield and try to otherwise we
[21:02] got to petition Boston registry is what
[21:04] we've been told.
[21:06] >> Really? It's kind of bizarre.
[21:10] >> Okay.
[21:11] >> But I talked to the insurance company
[21:13] and they said we're okay. We got the
[21:15] lights, we got the triangle, and we're
[21:17] insured. So,
[21:20] » great. [laughter]
[21:22] >> Done. We've got all our new trucks. The
[21:26] two trucks that we've had on order for a
[21:28] long time, we have those during service.
[21:30] >> Great.
[21:32] >> Um,
[21:34] other than that, we're moving forward.
[21:36] >> Okay.
[21:37] >> Old window road. There were some issues
[21:39] last year, end of last year, beginning
[21:41] of this year, upper and lower. Are those
[21:43] were those taken care of?
[21:45] >> As in the plowing portion,
[21:46] >> plowing and
[21:48] this year because they're dirt. So we go
[21:51] to two different
[21:52] >> one you we only salt the black top and
[21:55] then the truck has to go back after
[21:57] we're done salt and then they go back
[21:58] and sand.
[22:00] >> So we switch out and do the dirt roads
[22:02] after.
[22:03] >> Okay.
[22:03] >> And depending on the routes are going to
[22:06] change a little this year. So depending
[22:08] on the trucks that are up there, some of
[22:10] the trucks can't even turn around on the
[22:11] top. So the big the big truck will go
[22:14] down to um Cody Sison's parking area
[22:18] >> cuz it's big enough for him to turn
[22:19] around there. And then the
[22:20] subcontractors
[22:22] >> go beyond there. But the subcontractors
[22:24] are sometimes a little
[22:26] >> later than what the bigger truck goes
[22:28] down. Depends on,
[22:30] >> you know, how soon they cuz the the
[22:32] subcontractor goes down like four mile
[22:34] brook and does that all the dirt roads
[22:37] down that way. Then it comes back up and
[22:40] goes the two ways out the dirt roads.
[22:43] >> So you're doing um the lower end of old
[22:46] window road. You're pushing the
[22:48] embankment back, fixing that up. Is that
[22:50] for drainage more than
[22:51] >> drainage next year? Getting started on
[22:53] that and plus the place for the snow to
[22:55] go cuz we always had a problem like we
[22:56] do on Alexander Hill. The snow, they're
[22:58] all high banks.
[22:59] >> We're going to be able to push.
[23:00] >> So yeah, the snow would all fall back
[23:02] down on the road. So we got that area
[23:04] for the snow to go. We got to do
[23:06] drainage there next year and then we're
[23:08] going to pave the whole thing.
[23:09] >> The whole road.
[23:10] >> Well, yeah. Hopefully up to old window
[23:14] the intersection of Lyman
[23:17] uh that area.
[23:20] >> Can we talk a little bit more about is
[23:23] the drainage work going to help with um
[23:26] I'm just thinking wanted to make sure
[23:28] that we updated I think we talked a
[23:30] little bit. I went back and looked at my
[23:32] notes. Your last update was in June and
[23:35] we had a I mean you went through
[23:37] basically I think almost everything so
[23:40] far, but then we talked about and we did
[23:43] this last year of what we could actually
[23:46] do with Old Wendle because we set aside
[23:50] what was it $150,000
[23:53] to actually fix past Cody Sison.
[24:00] It was the the 150 was for I think it
[24:03] was 200,000
[24:04] >> 200,000
[24:05] >> that was for engineering to figure out
[24:07] what it was going to cost us to either
[24:09] do the whole road portions of the road
[24:12] how we were going to do it. So the
[24:14] survey has been done and then we've been
[24:16] back and forth
[24:18] the not the sur the whole study I guess
[24:21] I should say with the engineering. Um
[24:23] they've done that. We have copies of
[24:25] that. We're trying to get some bigger
[24:26] copies.
[24:27] >> He emailed me today. I asked him, he's
[24:29] going to send me some of the survey
[24:30] portion large.
[24:33] >> And we, me and Andre have talked about
[24:36] coming to certain portions of it and ex
[24:39] expanding to make a good turnaround for
[24:41] plow trucks.
[24:42] >> Mhm.
[24:42] >> And to solve some of the problems, but
[24:44] there's still a lot of work. The
[24:46] drainage all has to be improved. But if
[24:49] we were to go,00 It's approximately,
[24:51] 1100 ft on both the lower end that's not
[24:54] maintained now from where we stop. going
[24:57] up, 1100 feet and then at the top coming
[25:00] down, 1100 feet.
[25:02] >> There's good places to make turnarounds
[25:04] for the plow trucks. Yeah. And
[25:06] everything else.
[25:07] >> And then from that portion down, we have
[25:10] to decide or you guys have to decide how
[25:12] we want to proceed with it,
[25:15] >> whether we're going to just not maintain
[25:17] it
[25:18] or there's been some ideas thrown
[25:20] around,
[25:21] >> right? I talked to to legal. I mean
[25:22] there's obviously you have two well you
[25:24] have three you can do nothing but I
[25:26] think we've talked about not continuing.
[25:28] >> Well I just want to make sure we're
[25:29] keeping the because we had the petition
[25:31] from all the residents in that area. So
[25:34] I just want to make sure that we're
[25:35] identifying clear and I know these
[25:37] things take a while. I just want to make
[25:38] sure that we're laying out the steps
[25:40] properly and making sure they feel
[25:43] >> okay things are moving forward even
[25:45] though it takes a while and we're doing
[25:46] things in chunks here and there. Um,
[25:49] >> I think the idea of doing the 1100 on
[25:51] each side is getting to where where
[25:53] people are currently accessing where we
[25:55] see some people currently accessing plus the homes that are on the dirt
[25:59] portion. But but even beyond that,
[26:00] there's a few people that access a
[26:02] couple points and where they can safely
[26:04] turn around and then after that the road
[26:07] actually becomes impassible because no
[26:10] one is accessing through ledge trees
[26:13] growing.
[26:14] >> So um what to do at that point? So Tom
[26:17] has identified where he thinks it makes
[26:19] sense to stop on each end,
[26:21] >> right?
[26:22] >> And put in road, you know, and that'll
[26:24] be some expense to that. He's going to
[26:25] price that and do a project, but then it
[26:28] would be done.
[26:29] >> Um, and then you have to determine from
[26:32] those two new end points what you want
[26:35] to do with the middle section. And we
[26:38] had pretty survey
[26:40] >> the middle section, the impassible
[26:42] section, if you will.
[26:43] >> Correct. the section there.
[26:45] >> Hasn't been maintained yet.
[26:46] >> So, we're clearly stating that we're not
[26:48] planning on doing I just want to state
[26:51] the obvious. We're not planning on
[26:52] cutting through and and connecting the
[26:54] two pieces.
[26:55] >> That's millions of dollars.
[26:56] >> No, I know. Um but I just wanted to make
[26:58] and periodically I think like an Amazon
[27:01] driver or somebody would like attempt
[27:02] to, you know.
[27:03] >> Yeah. But barring uh GPS errors aside,
[27:09] um we're just clearly stating that we
[27:11] need to there's a number of different
[27:12] things that we would need to do even
[27:14] when we're stating the obvious on either
[27:16] side. So the top part of the lower
[27:19] portion and the low part of the top
[27:21] portion of Old Wendell Road and then
[27:24] ignoring that piece in between. So can
[27:26] you just explain those steps and I'd
[27:29] like to be able to lay out some sort of
[27:31] schedule even if it's just
[27:33] >> so
[27:34] done the first part which is to measure
[27:36] from the current maintained portions and
[27:38] to really mark out where it should stop
[27:41] for the safety of their vehicles and for
[27:43] where people are no longer using
[27:44] >> so that it works for
[27:46] >> and then he's going to work on turning
[27:47] that into cost estimating how much work
[27:49] has to be done. He's got drainage, road
[27:52] maintenance. I mean obviously you don't
[27:53] just pave um survey that was conducted
[27:58] by Thai and bond which we did in this
[28:00] report I think it's going to turn out to
[28:02] be necessary it's going to turn out to
[28:05] be enough to establish any proposed
[28:08] further
[28:10] option with that road if it's going to
[28:12] be a discontinuence of the road between
[28:15] those two points or what they call a
[28:17] discontinuence of maintenance.
[28:20] So, there's two options there. Um,
[28:22] discontinuing of the road is literally
[28:25] an extinguishment of the public's right
[28:27] to use the road. I mean, it's it's a got about 10 meetings. You have
[28:32] to you it's it's a much more complicated
[28:34] and the road essentially goes away. So,
[28:37] the people who have land in between
[28:39] literally lose access. So, that didn't
[28:41] seem the optimal
[28:43] or or the public people who walk it.
[28:45] There's some of the land in there's
[28:47] conservation land. like it just didn't
[28:49] seem that was our first best choice. So,
[28:54] one of one of the things we talked about
[28:56] was a discontinuence of maintenance, not
[28:59] the discontinuing the road. Um, this
[29:02] means the public continue to have rights
[29:04] of travel over the road. So, people can
[29:07] still walk it. It can connect to trails.
[29:10] There are some properties are up there
[29:11] owned by Mount Grace Conservation Land.
[29:15] Um
[29:17] that statute requires that a whole
[29:20] outline of steps
[29:23] and so the board would have to establish
[29:25] if that's the route you want to take. It
[29:26] does not require a town meeting. It's
[29:28] actually the vote of the select board.
[29:30] But it does require some notification,
[29:34] public hearing,
[29:36] posting,
[29:38] uh, putting some things up on the town
[29:39] clerk's office, and some advertising to
[29:41] get the public aware. So, that's a
[29:44] process the select board could undertake
[29:46] before you then
[29:48] move to vote to discontinue. And it's
[29:51] essentially
[29:53] when you have a public hearing, you
[29:55] discuss that the way is abandoned for
[29:57] because it's unused for ordinary travel,
[29:58] which I think we don't have any real
[30:00] problem establishing. The road is unused
[30:03] for ordinary travel. You can't drive
[30:05] through it. Um, so we're talking just to
[30:09] ask a really stupid obvious question.
[30:12] I'm thinking of Mary back in the day
[30:14] would say, "Explain it like I'm a fourth
[30:16] grader." So, we're just talking about
[30:18] the options that you've laid out here
[30:20] are for that portion in between.
[30:22] >> Yes. Okay.
[30:23] >> Yes.
[30:25] After the extension that that he's
[30:27] already looking at on both sides.
[30:29] >> Um that's clearly people who have homes
[30:31] that are accessing and some people who
[30:32] are accessing a little beyond that.
[30:34] Yeah.
[30:34] >> There routinely and that is travelable now. Um and people do some
[30:41] even if they park and walk in there,
[30:43] there's some people that are using that.
[30:45] But there becomes a point on both sides
[30:47] where you cannot use it for for ordinary
[30:49] travel. It is not a public way in the
[30:52] sense that you can actually drive it or
[30:55] almost walk it. It just a trail if
[30:57] anything that becomes the area we're
[31:01] talking about.
[31:04] So there's a process you can go through
[31:07] some determinations as a select board
[31:09] that you would have to make and then you
[31:11] could ultimately vote to discontinue
[31:14] based on the survey we have very
[31:16] specific
[31:18] boundaries not just random
[31:22] um then we have to file with the town
[31:24] clerk and signs have to be posted and
[31:27] like I said there's a process
[31:29] >> but it is something to consider
[31:32] >> um doing because the property has kind
[31:35] of been in sort of a limbo for a while.
[31:38] >> Okay. So, in the grand scheme of Old
[31:40] Wendell Road, do we need to do and in
[31:43] the sequencing of events, does this need
[31:45] to be done before we can do the um when
[31:48] we finally get to the point of paving?
[31:51] >> I think you should do that first and
[31:53] then you would establish the exact end
[31:57] paving first.
[31:58] >> Yeah. He should determine where he's
[31:59] going to be at, you know, the end.
[32:01] >> Correct. where he's going to maintain
[32:03] till until Tom needs to establish that
[32:06] mark it out. I mean, we can be doing the
[32:08] process simultaneously, but ultimately
[32:11] we would want that well marked and
[32:13] delineated because we would have to put
[32:15] people on notice,
[32:16] >> right?
[32:18] >> And then GPS, you probably would have to
[32:21] change the names of one of the two
[32:23] probably.
[32:23] >> Well, if you want to change the names,
[32:24] that's something you could do. uh that
[32:26] probably has to go to town meeting to
[32:27] vote, but you could do upper old window
[32:29] and lower old window
[32:30] >> and you'd have a sign that this that's
[32:32] this big, right?
[32:33] >> I mean, so that's that is something you
[32:35] could do at that point. U which would
[32:38] probably be helpful because there are
[32:40] people who
[32:41] >> when you say old Wendell Road, they're
[32:42] like,
[32:43] >> you have trucks coming up.
[32:45] >> You kind of have to be in the know
[32:46] >> where the numbers change. You have to
[32:48] kind of know that.
[32:49] >> Yeah. Okay. But at this point, right,
[32:51] I'm going to from off the plans that
[32:53] they gave try to establish what each end
[32:56] is going to cost
[32:58] for the drainage and whatnot. Then we
[33:00] have to establish where you know how
[33:02] much money it's going to cost. You're
[33:04] probably talking close to a half million
[33:06] dollars each end.
[33:07] >> Each end. So millions.
[33:08] >> It needs it all needs updated drainage.
[33:10] There's some blasting that's going to
[33:12] have to be done on the upper portion to
[33:13] move some of the rock that's out that we
[33:16] plow around. Now, I mean, if you're
[33:18] going to do it and you're going to
[33:19] >> do it and do it right,
[33:22] >> you might as well blast the ledge and
[33:24] get it back now,
[33:26] >> as well as for the drainage as well. So,
[33:28] it's
[33:29] >> it's probably a couple year project
[33:31] before you're done with the whole thing
[33:33] >> at this point. So,
[33:35] >> is that something you'd probably hired
[33:36] out? You guys wouldn't probably be able
[33:37] to do it, right?
[33:38] >> No, we could do everything but the
[33:40] blast.
[33:41] >> Yeah. Yeah. The rest of it's all just
[33:43] really drainage. There's a little bit of
[33:45] tree removal, but most of it's actually
[33:47] been done. The drainage is the big
[33:49] thing.
[33:49] >> Yeah.
[33:50] >> Um, but some of the drainage has never
[33:52] been done properly because of the ledge
[33:54] there cuz you got to blast it. So, they
[33:56] just kind of laid the pipes on the
[33:58] ledge,
[33:59] >> which you don't have the depth.
[34:03] >> When you grade, you hit the pipes all
[34:04] the time and stuff. So, you'd have to
[34:06] change all that.
[34:07] >> Okay.
[34:08] >> That's so you could I mean, you could do
[34:10] the discontinuence of maintenance while
[34:12] he's doing that. You don't have to wait
[34:13] till
[34:14] >> parallel. Correct.
[34:15] >> Correct.
[34:16] >> But we but he would have marked the we
[34:18] would know where by then.
[34:19] >> Would there be any grants that might
[34:21] help us with this?
[34:23] >> I mean chapter 90.
[34:24] >> Well, yeah. And you wouldn't want to use
[34:27] it all at once. Be using it over time.
[34:29] >> That would be the thing with what we
[34:31] get. You got to use it portionally to
[34:34] >> right
[34:34] >> to figure it out. That's what we kind of
[34:36] do now. And we we got to remember we
[34:38] still got one bridge
[34:40] >> y
[34:40] >> that we're still in limbo on on school
[34:42] street that
[34:43] >> well and the funding that we got from
[34:45] the state was for equipment not not for
[34:48] actually not for the operational work of
[34:51] paving. I just wanted to clarify that
[34:53] cuz somebody had asked me that a while
[34:54] back portion of that correct we just got
[34:57] the portion
[34:58] >> so we can continue to look into funding.
[35:01] I just are the steps and timing clear.
[35:04] So that very next step is what?
[35:06] Drainage.
[35:07] >> Well, looking at the cost of it and then
[35:09] I can I can come back and figure out,
[35:11] you know, then we're going to know.
[35:12] >> He's got to basically do a scope of
[35:14] work, right?
[35:15] >> And then cost that scope of work.
[35:17] >> Okay. So, when can we establish a time
[35:19] frame for that or do you two want to
[35:21] talk about it and come back so we can
[35:22] start laying out?
[35:24] >> I'll work on this winter. I mean, to get
[35:26] >> Yeah,
[35:27] >> it's, you know, that's the best time for
[35:28] me because there's a lot to it going
[35:30] over the plan,
[35:32] >> you know. So yeah,
[35:33] >> I mean they have most of that stuff, but
[35:35] there could be questions. Yep.
[35:36] >> I had talked to Titan bar and most of
[35:38] what they had put on their plans is
[35:40] stuff that's a doable thing without them
[35:42] changing things. So I can basically look
[35:45] at what they have in their design.
[35:47] >> Yeah.
[35:48] >> It just takes a lot of time to go back
[35:49] and forth. So
[35:50] >> and we do have some of that funding. So
[35:52] I think we can use that for the
[35:54] engineering even I think of the work
[35:57] you're going to do because we've already
[35:59] >> still more in that fund.
[36:00] >> Correct. Mhm.
[36:02] >> Okay.
[36:02] >> That would take some of the pressure
[36:04] off. It's not the construction funds per
[36:05] se, although we might be able to
[36:06] reallocate what's left, but it would at
[36:08] least get him through.
[36:10] >> Now, go ahead.
[36:11] >> Some of the scope of work and
[36:12] engineering pieces to get ready.
[36:14] >> Feel like skip.
[36:15] >> Would it would it make sense to do one
[36:19] side and then the other
[36:21] >> and not in concurrent
[36:23] upper then lower?
[36:24] >> Yeah. And if if so,
[36:27] which one would be
[36:30] the
[36:31] one that would want to be done first,
[36:33] upper or lower?
[36:35] >> I think you're going to engineer them
[36:36] both. We have
[36:37] >> You're going to engineer lower engineer.
[36:39] >> The upper is the one that we have the
[36:41] biggest problem with the turnaround.
[36:43] >> That's our upper end.
[36:45] >> Yeah.
[36:45] >> Okay.
[36:46] >> And that's where the um requests have
[36:48] come more than once from the residents.
[36:50] So, can we I don't want to get too far
[36:53] into the weeds on like we totally trust
[36:56] your ability to figure out what's what
[36:59] and I'll um I just want to maybe take it
[37:03] up a level and and we've got all this
[37:05] detail on how to discontinue the portion
[37:07] in between. just want to take it up a
[37:09] level. Maybe we need to do this at the
[37:11] next meeting where we just say the
[37:13] following this is one of the steps in a
[37:16] larger project and it might be parallel
[37:18] to all the other steps. And if the focus
[37:22] on paving is for the upper portion of
[37:25] Wendell Road, then I know you would have
[37:27] to do engineering for both, but then we
[37:30] could potentially sequence out beyond
[37:32] that. not even putting dates on it so
[37:34] much as what are the steps and then the
[37:36] dates will unfold as the we go through
[37:39] the [snorts] the season because
[37:41] obviously we're not going to be um
[37:44] paving in in the in the winter, right?
[37:47] And you're not going to pave before
[37:48] you've done the drainage. So, if we
[37:50] could just lay out those steps on on for
[37:54] the average person or somebody because
[37:56] the Greenfield Recorder is here too. So
[37:57] the green field recorder be like, "Oh,
[37:59] this is this is what all that means that
[38:01] they just talked about." Okay. Anything
[38:04] else?
[38:04] >> No, I'm good. Nope.
[38:06] >> Okay. Does Does that make David?
[38:08] >> Uh, let's go.
[38:09] >> Two questions. One was I saw you this
[38:11] morning. So, I've actually had a town
[38:13] resident ask me how would they approach
[38:17] the town to request a street light?
[38:20] >> Oh,
[38:22] that is true.
[38:24] I don't used to have a committee, but I
[38:27] don't think there's a committee anymore.
[38:28] >> You had street light guidelines that are
[38:31] like multi-pages long. It's um so I have
[38:35] those. I have to look at them again.
[38:37] They seemed sort of out of date and a
[38:39] little cumbersome. Um
[38:42] it's it's really ultimately not a town
[38:45] decision. The town can certainly request
[38:47] it. It's it's the polls are set by
[38:50] Verizon.
[38:52] I mean by Eversource
[38:54] >> Eversource sets the polls. So we have to
[38:56] actually petition Eversource to set a
[38:58] poll. We don't put poles in.
[39:01] >> The way it used to be was any dangerous
[39:03] intersection when they went through and
[39:06] shut the lights off in town years ago.
[39:08] >> They were supposed to leave them on at
[39:10] any dangerous intersection or like a a a
[39:13] sharp blinding type corner. Other than
[39:17] that, they were shutting every other
[39:18] that was kind of their policy. And then
[39:21] if somebody I know for a fact because I
[39:23] was or my grandparents were paying till
[39:25] I bought their house, but if you wanted
[39:28] a street light in a certain spot that
[39:30] was not a necessity to them, you pay for
[39:34] it. They'll put one in, they'll turn it
[39:36] on, but you're paying through your
[39:38] electric bill on it.
[39:41] So, who would they reach out to you?
[39:43] >> Yeah, they can start with me. I I'll
[39:45] look at the guidelines again. I'll pull
[39:46] them. I didn't find them and I did look
[39:48] and we were looking at them with select
[39:50] board policies cuz we thought they were
[39:51] select policy but I don't think they
[39:53] actually are. It looks like they were
[39:54] set. Um but it looks pretty old and it
[39:57] pretty
[39:59] like a five member board from
[40:01] >> committee
[40:02] >> that went through most people to turn
[40:04] them off. Most people wanted them all.
[40:05] >> No, I get okay thank you. So, um,
[40:09] >> yeah,
[40:10] >> you're going to send them to me.
[40:11] >> Send that to Andrea and then we're going
[40:12] to figure out where the select board
[40:14] fits into that.
[40:16] >> Um, in case we actually need to send a
[40:18] letter or petition to um, ever question.
[40:21] >> Okay, second. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for
[40:23] helping. So, your second question is
[40:24] >> the second one was on Warwick Road.
[40:26] You're going to skim code it and then
[40:28] So, where are we with the long-term
[40:29] solution for that? Anywhere?
[40:31] >> Well, that's going to happen next
[40:32] summer.
[40:33] >> Next summer, we're good to go to
[40:35] everything. We got all the permits in
[40:36] place. It was just the the water because
[40:39] the water's going to work in conjunction
[40:41] because they're going to put on a new
[40:42] water man at the same time.
[40:43] >> Okay.
[40:44] >> Um so it's on the schedule for next
[40:47] summer. That's definitely
[40:49] >> I I really wanted it done.
[40:51] >> Perfect. Great. That's what I had.
[40:53] Thanks, Tom.
[40:53] >> Okay. Any other um streets or citizen?
[40:58] You've got one. Okay. Good.
[40:59] >> Couple quick questions. I heard they're
[41:02] losing their hardline service at the
[41:04] transfer station. Well, I just heard
[41:06] that this afternoon.
[41:07] >> The what service? The hardline. The
[41:09] phone service.
[41:10] >> Supposedly, there's something new that
[41:12] is going to replace it.
[41:14] >> Okay.
[41:14] >> That's what when I Bob spoke to me this
[41:17] afternoon about it and
[41:19] >> Oh, I was going to ask you to talk with
[41:20] Bob because you're listening.
[41:21] >> I did talk to him and he said he talked
[41:23] with Aaron at length because they got a
[41:25] notice or something.
[41:27] >> Yeah. He talked with Karen, too.
[41:28] >> Yeah. And it's But supposedly they're
[41:31] replacing it with something else.
[41:33] >> Okay.
[41:34] um that he was under the impression of
[41:37] >> they're doing away with the centric
[41:38] system,
[41:39] >> but they're not cutting all phone lines.
[41:42] There's a certain centric system that
[41:45] had to do with municipal and they think
[41:47] they're
[41:49] >> discontinuing that system.
[41:50] >> Okay. My other one, um have they updated
[41:53] you on that Milbrook siphon the access
[41:57] and the erosion issues? say, "I got an
[42:00] email wondering if we could get gravel
[42:02] out there somehow." But I haven't got in
[42:04] contact with Isaac to see
[42:06] >> if you could because they wanted to see
[42:09] if you could do a lot of the work and
[42:11] save a lot of money cuz on one side they
[42:14] need uh some gravel laid down so the
[42:17] access is better.
[42:18] >> Yeah. On the upper side, he gave me a
[42:19] set of plans and I know
[42:21] >> the upper Okay, you've seen the plans
[42:22] cuz
[42:22] >> I've seen the plans and then I got an
[42:24] email last week. I guess they got
[42:26] everything through the con. They were
[42:27] waiting on the conservation as well.
[42:29] >> Yeah, they're pretty much through that,
[42:30] but they got to do an a site visit.
[42:32] >> Yeah. And I told them whenever the site
[42:34] visit, I'll go down and walk it with
[42:35] them so we were all on the same page.
[42:37] >> Okay. So, you you'll be able to commit
[42:38] to do that probably whenever we
[42:40] >> Yeah.
[42:41] >> Okay. Cuz that won't they we probably
[42:43] won't get the grant funding the funding
[42:45] award to that till June of next year.
[42:47] >> Yeah.
[42:48] >> At least
[42:49] >> the MVP grant we're applying for.
[42:50] >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That that was my other
[42:52] quest just to make sure you had seen the
[42:54] plans, had an idea.
[42:56] >> I have I have a set of them and because
[42:58] we had they gave me one set and we had a
[43:00] few. We met down there and I you know we made a couple adjustments.
[43:04] >> Good.
[43:05] >> Okay.
[43:06] >> I'm fine with that. Thank you.
[43:07] >> Shane, did you have any?
[43:08] >> I'm good on highway. [laughter]
[43:11] >> I just want to update to the Warp Road
[43:14] Bridge.
[43:15] >> Yes.
[43:16] >> I will I actually had to go to a meeting
[43:18] this morning about it. We thought we'd
[43:20] have more answers than we did, but
[43:21] within a couple weeks, we're supposed to
[43:23] have schedule.
[43:26] >> Okay, good.
[43:26] >> So, I don't know if it's happening this
[43:28] year or not.
[43:31] >> They didn't really some, but it will be
[43:33] down in one lane if it happens. Um
[43:37] they're going to put uh temporary
[43:39] traffic lights at both sides.
[43:40] >> Okay.
[43:41] >> Um so, and they know they have to
[43:43] coordinate with the fire, the AMS,
[43:45] everybody. Yeah,
[43:46] >> right now they didn't have any tenative
[43:48] dates cuz they just awarded the
[43:50] contract.
[43:50] >> Okay,
[43:51] >> that thanks for that. I was glad I
[43:53] didn't have to go to that meeting. The
[43:55] um just so everybody else knows we
[43:58] updated there was a question from EMS
[44:01] and fire regarding the um you know
[44:03] especially the route 10 bridge if they
[44:05] do work on that if it affects service at
[44:08] all. They want to know about it. So we
[44:10] updated all the emails for mass dot got
[44:13] EMS in the loop. um fire's new email is
[44:16] now um hooked into the mass dot list and
[44:20] then Senator Cmerford's office checked
[44:22] and made sure that Mass Dot was actually
[44:24] communicating and I said yes. I said we
[44:27] got all the emails and now we're invited
[44:29] to a meeting. So, um we're good on that
[44:31] portion of it. Anything else with
[44:33] Alexander Hill? The
[44:35] >> We're trying to get up there if we have
[44:36] time
[44:37] >> to scoop.
[44:38] >> We got a We were waiting on the trees.
[44:40] They finally There's one more tree
[44:41] that's got to be cut up there. Oh,
[44:43] they're still working up there on the
[44:45] trees. Yeah.
[44:45] >> Okay. Can we hurry that up?
[44:48] >> Do you want me to hurry it up?
[44:50] >> Okay. And then uh we have an email that
[44:53] we'll talk to you guys about tomorrow
[44:55] about four mile brook.
[44:57] >> I think it's cable. I haven't got
[44:59] through to them. Oh, okay.
[45:00] >> I called munkers today.
[45:02] >> Okay.
[45:02] >> As well to film.
[45:03] >> It should be all set. It's in the town
[45:05] right away anyways. The flag right it's
[45:09] not the town.
[45:09] >> All right. We will respond uh on that
[45:12] question as well. Perfect timing. Okay.
[45:16] Yeah. So, we'll we'll have you back for
[45:18] sure.
[45:18] >> Okay. [laughter]
[45:20] >> Thank you.
[45:20] Tom.
[45:22] >> All right. I'm going to do the fire
[45:23] chief next because we said 6:45 for him.
[45:27] So, are you Lynette?
[45:28] >> Yes.
[45:29] >> Lynette, hi. I thought you were going to
[45:30] be here earlier. So, we're going to go
[45:31] ahead and talk to the fire chief.
[45:34] Michael, come on down.
[45:39] Okay,
[45:41] >> great.
[45:43] Hello.
[45:44] >> How are you?
[45:45] >> Good.
[45:47] That was a fine celebration for uh Skip
[45:50] on Saturday.
[45:52] >> Welcome back. Yeah.
[45:53] >> Yeah.
[45:54] >> Was it like last week you were here?
[45:56] [laughter]
[45:58] >> Um no, Saturday night I think went very
[46:00] well.
[46:00] >> It did. I know he was very overwhelmed
[46:04] and appreciative and Yes.
[46:08] >> Yes. And there's a big article on him in
[46:10] the Greenfield Recorder.
[46:12] >> Thank you, Madison. Okay. So, we're here
[46:15] to talk about your chief agreement
[46:16] because we have been making a lot of
[46:18] progress on the transition summary. So,
[46:20] there's no new updates on that. Mike and
[46:22] I and Andrea have a meeting
[46:27] next week on October 7th to um deal with
[46:31] the auxiliary role as well as minor
[46:33] edits to the associate firefighter.
[46:36] >> I have it in, but I had I didn't set the
[46:38] time.
[46:39] >> Three.
[46:39] >> Okay. 3:00. Make sure I have that in.
[46:42] >> And then um so we'll have a couple of uh
[46:44] relatively easy hopefully issues to deal
[46:48] with. So you can come back to the next
[46:49] meeting too, Mike.
[46:51] October out here.
[46:54] >> He's trying to beat u our EMS chief
[46:57] record and and we might have the police
[46:59] chief next at next meeting as well so we
[47:02] can get him back in the in the running
[47:04] for most select board meetings attended.
[47:07] Okay. So, um we took the contract the um
[47:12] the wording of it is fine per you
[47:15] >> I Nothing jumped out at me. So,
[47:17] >> Yep. Andrea and myself, we reviewed that
[47:19] last week. We took the board's advice
[47:22] regarding and Skip's advice by the way
[47:24] too to go back and revisit the um
[47:27] salary. So that new salary which is
[47:30] where we had kind of started and also I
[47:33] went back and I looked at the different
[47:36] if anybody wants this the um survey that
[47:39] you had put together. So, we're right in
[47:41] line with um other towns as well, the
[47:44] new amount of 12,000
[47:48] um
[47:48] >> which is also very within
[47:51] >> few hundreds of dollars what Skip got
[47:53] last year. So, it's really not much of a
[47:55] change.
[47:55] >> We're we're basically rounding up which
[47:58] we sort of eliminated the stipens and
[48:00] now they've been rolled into the base
[48:02] pay and everything. So, it's it's it's
[48:04] really a
[48:04] >> it's much easier. It's [clears throat] a
[48:06] simplification of three or four
[48:08] different stipens plus hourly plus this
[48:10] and and I looked at two or three years
[48:11] to make sure that we were right in line
[48:14] with that. We also I think it um just
[48:17] sets a clear easier standard because
[48:19] it's a certain monthly amount um and
[48:22] annually for the for their budgeting.
[48:24] They know exactly what they're talking
[48:26] about for the chief salary.
[48:28] >> Yep.
[48:28] >> Um and it I think it reflects also some
[48:31] changes in updating in the job
[48:33] description and responsibilities.
[48:35] Correct. And it doesn't really affect
[48:37] the FY27 budget.
[48:39] >> It doesn't. No, it fell falls into the
[48:40] numbers that we were using. So, yeah.
[48:43] >> Y any questions? And and actually this
[48:46] answers directly answers the question
[48:48] that David had raised at the last
[48:49] meeting. Thanks, David. About um that we
[48:52] should be paying more. I know that Mike
[48:56] was
[48:56] >> Well, my question was, is it in line?
[48:59] >> Yes.
[49:00] >> And it is. It is.
[49:01] >> That was my question. Yeah.
[49:02] >> Yes. I'm not running into a house that's
[49:05] on fire for that wage.
[49:07] [snorts]
[49:07] >> Let's secure.
[49:08] >> I just tell people to do it now.
[49:10] [laughter]
[49:11] >> See that?
[49:13] >> Pays fine.
[49:15] >> You're just going to have to develop
[49:16] your pointing finger through the radio.
[49:19] >> Um
[49:19] >> I have an antenna now. [laughter]
[49:22] >> Okay. Um any other questions? I thought
[49:25] it was a good discussion last week. So,
[49:26] we're just formalizing what we talked
[49:28] about and then bumping that up. And
[49:30] there's no way it's going to affect this
[49:32] your budget this year anyway.
[49:34] >> Watch the numbers and watch them how
[49:36] they play out for six or eight months.
[49:38] And
[49:39] >> correct. And plus, we're already part
[49:41] way we're already a quarter of the way
[49:42] through the fiscal year.
[49:44] >> And the other thing I wanted to
[49:45] piggyback on that you're not going to
[49:46] get to the warrant, but since you're
[49:48] sitting here, there is an article in the
[49:50] warrant for to set up a revolving
[49:52] >> Oh, we did talk about that for peries.
[49:55] And all that means is
[49:57] >> it makes sense. Everything someone pays
[49:59] >> goes in, comes out.
[50:00] >> It's already paid to the person doing
[50:02] the permit fees and the inspections, but what they were doing was collecting
[50:06] it and then they had to budget it
[50:07] because it was never set up as a
[50:09] revolving fund. So, you were putting
[50:10] money on the tax rate as an estimate as
[50:14] opposed to just taking it in, sending it
[50:16] out. And the town has a whole number of
[50:18] revolving fees, revolving. So, this just
[50:21] turns this into one of those. So,
[50:23] >> yep.
[50:24] >> It's an inn-out mechanism.
[50:26] >> Good. So, [clears throat] we are like
[50:28] chunking just chunking through the rest
[50:30] of the transition summary. Um, no new
[50:33] updates on that this week. There will be
[50:35] at at the next meeting. Um, I'm just
[50:37] going to hold this up. Thank you, Becky,
[50:39] for putting these together for you
[50:41] handed this out to all the firefighters.
[50:43] >> They have that. Yeah. And the one page
[50:45] that we've had to have correctly
[50:46] resolved and also also updated.
[50:48] >> Yeah. So the great thing is it's set up
[50:50] so that if one page changes there was a
[50:52] >> and the whole thought process with that
[50:55] was there was going to need changes
[50:56] throughout the years was going to need
[50:58] to be adaptable and that
[50:59] >> right so this is this is what came out
[51:01] of that process just so you guys
[51:04] >> all see that.
[51:06] >> Okay. Um motion
[51:10] to approve and have me sign the fire
[51:14] chief contract.
[51:17] >> The agreement. Yeah, the agreement.
[51:18] Thank you.
[51:19] >> Will be commencing immediately upon
[51:21] signing and and ending June 30th, 2020.
[51:25] >> 27. Yeah.
[51:26] >> So motion and uh
[51:28] >> second.
[51:29] >> Okay. Second by David. All those in
[51:31] favor?
[51:32] >> I
[51:34] >> abstain.
[51:35] >> Abstaining from Mr. Duke.
[51:38] >> You have to sign
[51:39] >> and I have to sign it.
[51:40] >> And Mike has to sign it.
[51:41] >> Okay.
[51:43] >> All right. So, we're good on that.
[51:45] >> He's my He's my direct supervisor. He
[51:47] tells me to run into the building.
[51:49] >> And you do things. I mean, you directed
[51:51] traffic, right? Yesterday.
[51:52] >> Very very tall. When he was
[51:54] >> What was going on yesterday?
[51:56] >> Uh with tree down across what?
[51:59] >> He's directing traffic where yesterday.
[52:01] >> Uh we were on route 10. The
[52:03] >> right in the dip.
[52:04] >> Oh, is that what that was?
[52:06] >> Oh, tree down.
[52:07] >> The trees uproot there all the time.
[52:10] Wasn't even any wind.
[52:11] >> Oh, really?
[52:12] >> Came across all came across the whole
[52:14] lanes and landed on the blinds on the
[52:15] other side. So, we assisted with
[52:18] traffic.
[52:19] >> Wow.
[52:21] >> I've got a copy in your book.
[52:23] >> Well done, Shane.
[52:25] >> Thank you.
[52:26] >> Can of time that I have.
[52:27] >> All right. Thank you.
[52:29] >> We appreciate it.
[52:30] >> Okay.
[52:31] >> Thank you, Mike. I think we're good.
[52:32] >> Okay. Very good.
[52:33] >> We'll see you next week. [laughter]
[52:35] >> Thank you. See you two weeks.
[52:37] >> See you next week.
[52:38] >> Two weeks. No, we'll see you in two
[52:39] weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks.
[52:42] >> Okay. So,
[52:44] >> I see Mike more than than most people.
[52:46] Okay. All right, Lynette, come on up,
[52:48] please.
[52:52] So, Lynette, you're here for the Trinity
[52:55] Solar LLC
[52:59] temporary vendors hawker and peddler
[53:01] license,
[53:02] >> correct?
[53:02] >> Okay, good. Um, so typically
[53:07] and you're looking at effective date of
[53:09] operations for um, it's now going to be
[53:12] October. So are you looking at the month
[53:14] of October?
[53:16] >> Yeah.
[53:16] >> Okay, that kind of fits. I went back and
[53:19] looked through the notes. There was
[53:20] somebody from Trinity here last October.
[53:22] >> Correct.
[53:23] >> Yeah.
[53:25] Okay. Um,
[53:26] >> the hours operation 9:00 a.m. to 8:30
[53:28] p.m.
[53:31] >> So we're down to 8. We end at 8 now.
[53:34] >> 9 to 8.
[53:35] >> Yeah.
[53:35] >> Well, when does the sun set?
[53:37] >> Earlier than that.
[53:39] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[53:40] >> Yeah. I think we've done it earlier just
[53:42] so that people aren't um Some folks are
[53:44] a little sensitive to having, you know,
[53:46] folks they don't know in their driveway
[53:48] after dark,
[53:48] >> right?
[53:49] >> Um
[53:51] change it to six.
[53:53] >> That's what we did for Mike last year.
[53:55] >> So 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. work.
[53:58] >> Okay.
[53:59] Um, and then we do it for two
[54:02] weeks. And if you need it for longer
[54:03] than that, we can set it up so that
[54:06] rather than coming back to us, you can
[54:08] go back to Becky. As long as there's no
[54:10] issues, it can be um,
[54:15] we've done it, I think we did for Mike
[54:16] last year where we set it up for two
[54:18] weeks and then he came back for another
[54:19] two weeks if he needed it.
[54:22] >> Yeah. Just contact Becky and if we
[54:23] haven't heard anything then,
[54:24] >> yeah,
[54:25] >> it went to two weeks. Okay. Again,
[54:27] >> that sounds good.
[54:28] >> Okay. Do you want to Is that good with
[54:31] every Is there any other questions or
[54:33] points or Sorry, I'm just trying to keep
[54:35] it.
[54:35] >> No, I'm good.
[54:36] >> Yeah.
[54:36] >> Okay. All right. So, I'll entertain a
[54:39] motion to approve the application from
[54:43] Lynette Pritchard for Trinity Solar LLC
[54:49] uh for the month of October from 9:00
[54:53] a.m. to 6:00 p.m. with the stipulation
[54:56] that um this is good for 14 days and you
[54:59] have to check in with the town
[55:01] administrative assistant at the end of
[55:03] 14 days to see if you need another two
[55:05] weeks.
[55:06] >> So, moved. Second.
[55:08] >> All those in favor?
[55:09] >> I
[55:11] >> Okie dokie.
[55:12] >> We need to sign this.
[55:14] >> Yes. Oh, yeah. We do. Thank you.
[55:16] >> Okay.
[55:17] >> All right. So, we'll sign this and we're
[55:18] going to hand it off to Becky.
[55:21] Okay. We did that. Okay. Good.
[55:25] >> Does Becky need this one, too?
[55:27] >> Yeah.
[55:29] >> So, we're good on that. Oh, we might as
[55:32] well do the agenda.
[55:35] Oh, it's up next. The next signature one
[55:38] is up too.
[55:39] >> Mhm.
[55:39] >> Okay.
[55:43] » Set it back.
[55:55] » Andrea's got to sign this one
[55:57] eventually.
[55:58] >> Yeah. Usually I end up getting it on the
[56:00] way back through because she gets it
[56:03] from all the chiefs first and then you
[56:05] guys sign and then I should grab it on
[56:07] the way through.
[56:07] >> I'll give it the Becky's out.
[56:10] >> Yeah.
[56:11] >> Okay.
[56:12] >> Here. Send that. Let's go Becky.
[56:14] >> We'll send that one.
[56:14] >> Okay. All righty.
[56:17] >> Okay.
[56:17] >> You're good to go. So, you're going to
[56:20] >> Becky, you're going to take care of it
[56:23] tomorrow. You give her a So, she's got a
[56:26] >> all the signatures and everything. about
[56:28] the dates. You'll have that. Okay. You
[56:31] have my contact.
[56:32] >> Yes. I appreciate your time.
[56:35] >> Yeah. Thank you.
[56:37] >> I know this is different than other
[56:38] towns, but that's this is the way
[56:40] Northfield does it. So, um it's a
[56:43] two-stepper.
[56:44] >> Okay. Thank you.
[56:46] >> Police then the select board. Okay.
[56:50] >> Okay. Okay. So, the next is we have uh a
[56:53] conf a conflict of interest disclosure
[56:56] from Kevin Seaman who's on the emergency
[56:59] services u facility/building committee.
[57:03] >> Right. This is recommended by the state
[57:05] because he's the
[57:06] >> he checked in with the neighbor for the
[57:09] project.
[57:10] >> Yeah. which is exactly why we thought
[57:13] he'd be a great addition to the
[57:14] community. [laughter] It doesn't
[57:15] apparently bother the town, but they
[57:17] thought just for the sake of
[57:20] >> disclosure
[57:21] >> visual that he should go ahead and just
[57:24] say, "Hey, I live next door,"
[57:26] >> which we kind of all did, but
[57:28] >> we all know and we all support. I don't
[57:30] think there's any, right? There's I
[57:32] mean, we all knew that. So, Shane and
[57:34] Dan are on the committee. Um it came
[57:38] about because not the disclosure but um
[57:43] once the house burned down then um Kevin
[57:45] introduced himself um to our EMS chief
[57:48] and then
[57:50] being the
[57:52] good person that and Matt is he's like
[57:54] hey would you like to be on our
[57:55] committee
[57:56] >> and he is
[57:58] >> right and I know people in town have
[58:00] always been concerned about what do the
[58:01] neighbors think? Well we put one on the
[58:03] committee. Okay. So, what kind of we
[58:06] actually need to do a motion to this
[58:08] effect then? Correct.
[58:09] >> Okay.
[58:10] >> So, I'll entertain a motion to
[58:14] >> Are we approve
[58:16] >> you [clears throat] sign it?
[58:17] >> I think it's an I can't remember the
[58:19] language on accepted or
[58:20] >> appointing authority
[58:22] >> determination. We reviewed the we've
[58:24] reviewed the particular matter
[58:27] >> and financial interest identified above
[58:29] by the municipal employee.
[58:31] >> Yep. We have determined that the
[58:33] financial interest is not so substantial
[58:35] as to be deemed likely to affect the
[58:37] integrity of the services which do the
[58:39] municip municipality may expect from the
[58:42] employee.
[58:44] >> Thank you.
[58:45] >> That's what that's what it reads.
[58:47] >> Okay. So, the motion to have me sign
[58:51] uh Kevin Seaman's municipal employee
[58:54] disclosure.
[58:55] >> So, move second.
[58:59] >> All those in favor? I [laughter]
[59:02] >> tan's like I got it.
[59:05] >> So I saw her going.
[59:08] [cough]
[59:16] » Okay,
[59:17] >> you throw that right in here and I'll we
[59:20] can
[59:21] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate the
[59:22] help. Pass it all. Pass it over. I'll
[59:24] put it all back in here.
[59:30] All right. Nothing like a little bit of
[59:31] paperwork to get the creative juices
[59:34] flowing.
[59:35] >> You want to whack off the warrants?
[59:37] >> Yes, please.
[59:39] >> Go ahead.
[59:39] >> Okay, we'll do the warrants here.
[59:42] >> Yeah, let's do that.
[59:42] >> See, I motion that we approve the 930
[59:46] 2026 payroll warrant of $110,45.79.
[59:52] » So moved.
[59:53] >> Second.
[59:53] >> All those in favor?
[59:55] >> I.
[59:56] >> Thank you. I motion that we approve the
[59:59] 930 2026 vendor warrant of $425,2669
[1:00:07] which includes a new police department
[1:00:09] cruiser and the EMS new ambulance.
[1:00:13] >> So moved.
[1:00:14] >> Second.
[1:00:16] >> All those in favor?
[1:00:17] >> I I
[1:00:20] >> Okay, now we're on to the minutes.
[1:00:22] >> Okay. I motion that we approve the uh
[1:00:25] amended minutes from 8:31 2026.
[1:00:30] >> Uh is there a second on that? I do have
[1:00:33] a second
[1:00:34] >> correction on that.
[1:00:38] » Correction on the amendment.
[1:00:39] >> A correction on the amendment or the
[1:00:40] amendment to itself?
[1:00:42] >> The amended. Well, there's my amend.
[1:00:44] >> I think you were going to discuss them.
[1:00:46] >> We're going to discuss them because the
[1:00:48] um I submitted something and Shane
[1:00:51] submitted something. So,
[1:00:52] >> so two different amendments.
[1:00:54] >> Is that what I'm hearing?
[1:00:55] >> I think you should just vote to approve
[1:00:58] the minutes then have the amendment
[1:01:00] discussions and then you can move it as
[1:01:02] amended
[1:01:04] because you don't have the amendment in
[1:01:05] front of you to vote.
[1:01:06] >> No.
[1:01:08] >> Okay. So, just why don't we just discuss
[1:01:11] the amendments and then we can do uh as
[1:01:14] amended.
[1:01:14] >> Yeah. Or better yet, let's do the other
[1:01:17] two minutes first and come back to that.
[1:01:19] How about that? pull out your notes
[1:01:21] while we're doing that. All right. So,
[1:01:23] the joint emergency services facility
[1:01:25] committ uh committee uh with the select
[1:01:28] board from September 1st, 2026.
[1:01:31] >> So, move second.
[1:01:33] >> All those in favor?
[1:01:35] >> I
[1:01:38] from David McCarthy. Okay. And how about
[1:01:41] the September 15th, 2026 meeting
[1:01:43] minutes?
[1:01:46] >> Approval of so moved. Second.
[1:01:49] >> All those in favor?
[1:01:51] >> I Okay. All right. Now, back to 8:31. I
[1:01:54] just want to make sure we're
[1:01:57] >> what we're voting on for an amendment
[1:01:58] before we
[1:02:00] >> I'm hoping this is a short discussion,
[1:02:02] but let's just double check, shall we?
[1:02:05] Okay.
[1:02:08] So,
[1:02:11] Shane, you added a few things on here. I
[1:02:15] think they're fine. The only thing was
[1:02:19] um it was 2500 was the number um not
[1:02:24] 3500
[1:02:26] and um we don't do the town election on
[1:02:29] May 27th. I think we just said the May
[1:02:31] town election. So
[1:02:33] >> May May 20 Well, May of 27.
[1:02:36] >> May of May 2027.
[1:02:39] >> May of the year 27.
[1:02:40] >> May of the year.
[1:02:40] >> May
[1:02:42] not May 27.
[1:02:43] >> Oh, okay. Got it. Oh, okay. Okay. All
[1:02:46] right.
[1:02:47] >> And I thought it was $3,500 and then we
[1:02:48] had an additional was going to be the
[1:02:51] mailings
[1:02:53] because we were already past the point
[1:02:55] of being able to elect out of doing
[1:02:58] post.
[1:02:58] >> Yeah. No, we know the whole we're just
[1:02:59] discussing the edit and the the notes
[1:03:02] that Becky had was 2500 and she double
[1:03:04] checked those with Amanda. Yeah. So,
[1:03:06] it's might have been like
[1:03:09] with the postage thrown in, but if we
[1:03:12] could just put correct that then I think
[1:03:15] we could just incorporate both of them.
[1:03:18] >> I'm okay with that.
[1:03:19] >> Is that okay?
[1:03:20] >> Okay. And it's May 2027. Sorry about
[1:03:23] that. That's the way I just read it.
[1:03:24] Okay. Is that good with you guys?
[1:03:27] >> Mhm.
[1:03:27] >> Okay.
[1:03:27] >> Yep.
[1:03:28] >> All right.
[1:03:29] Um, I'll entertain a motion to approve
[1:03:32] the August 31st, 2026 minutes as amended
[1:03:36] with the two sets of edits.
[1:03:40] >> So moved.
[1:03:41] >> Thank you.
[1:03:41] >> Second.
[1:03:42] >> All those in favor?
[1:03:43] >> I thank you. Okay. Select board
[1:03:48] policies.
[1:03:48] >> Just brought you two this evening
[1:03:50] because they require a little
[1:03:51] discussion. So slowed it down to to two.
[1:03:55] Um,
[1:03:56] >> well, I already did like 15, so
[1:03:59] >> yeah. Yeah, there's a few more, but
[1:04:00] they're we're just doing these a little
[1:04:02] slower because we're going to chunk more
[1:04:04] amended. More amended. So, starting with
[1:04:06] the classification creation or review
[1:04:08] policy. It used to say position review,
[1:04:12] but we kind of made it a little clearer
[1:04:15] because sometimes now it's a creation
[1:04:16] for a new position. We want not just
[1:04:18] review them. We want what's the process
[1:04:19] if someone asks for a position.
[1:04:21] >> Yep. So, this is editing of a previous
[1:04:24] process. Um, it's slightly different now
[1:04:27] because we've added the form and
[1:04:29] expanded the role. We want to make sure
[1:04:31] the department heads involved. Um, but
[1:04:34] it really codifies what we've been doing
[1:04:36] for the last couple of years. Um, and
[1:04:40] incorporates the new request form into
[1:04:42] the policy so that it's it's clear and
[1:04:45] who's involved in the process. So, I
[1:04:49] don't know if anyone had any questions.
[1:04:50] We've used it a couple of times now. So,
[1:04:52] if someone wants to review their own
[1:04:54] position or if a department head wants
[1:04:56] you to review the position of one of
[1:04:58] their employees,
[1:04:59] >> then they go through the process of
[1:05:01] filling the form out. Um, which then it
[1:05:04] initiates the review. Um, and we've done
[1:05:07] it a couple times and basically it
[1:05:09] brings together the department head, the
[1:05:11] town administrator, uh, a member of the,
[1:05:14] um, finance committee and select board
[1:05:17] to at least do the initial review. So
[1:05:20] they can ask any questions, discuss.
[1:05:22] This is also the same if someone says,
[1:05:23] "Hey, I want a new position." We have
[1:05:25] them submit the form. Then you can look
[1:05:27] at what's the cost impact, what does
[1:05:29] this mean long term? Um why do we want
[1:05:32] this? Have you, you know, filled out um
[1:05:34] all the reasons? Um is is is this a
[1:05:36] change in grade and step?
[1:05:38] >> You know, usually if you're asking for a
[1:05:39] change, it means are you asking to just
[1:05:41] go up a step or are you asking for a
[1:05:43] whole reclassification?
[1:05:45] If that's the case, then we we bring
[1:05:47] together the whole reclassification
[1:05:48] committee and we say, "Well, what's
[1:05:50] changed?" And that bumps us back to the
[1:05:52] job description. So, we try to follow
[1:05:54] the same process for every single um
[1:05:57] request, but it starts with the new form
[1:05:59] and we wanted to get that into
[1:06:02] the um into the into the policy.
[1:06:06] >> Questions from the board?
[1:06:07] >> No, I'm good. We've actually been It's
[1:06:09] always nice when you've followed the
[1:06:11] policy changes before they get to
[1:06:14] >> know how they work and I think it just
[1:06:15] gives us more um input from various
[1:06:18] bodies including finance including the
[1:06:20] department and it gives us a written
[1:06:23] trail to talk to follow who's requesting
[1:06:26] what and what work is being requested
[1:06:28] whole classification or just a bump in a
[1:06:31] >> in a in a step. Um, and we have some
[1:06:33] documentation. We can give it to the
[1:06:35] financial people and we can make sure it
[1:06:37] goes in someone's file. Couple times
[1:06:40] we've caught that people's things have
[1:06:41] been changed over the years, but there's
[1:06:43] no documentation, so we don't know what
[1:06:44] happened. But we're trying, we've got
[1:06:46] everybody on a step in grade now, and
[1:06:47] we'd like to keep the process clear and
[1:06:50] followable.
[1:06:53] » Okay. Next,
[1:06:55] >> and this was reviewed with the
[1:06:56] department heads, too. I mean, I know a
[1:06:58] number of them have been through this.
[1:07:00] Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
[1:07:01] >> With the department heads. And then
[1:07:02] Becky just put a note, thank you Becky,
[1:07:04] that the the at the top of it says that
[1:07:08] where it says position and review those
[1:07:10] typos were are corrected in the
[1:07:11] electronic document.
[1:07:14] Okay, I'll entertain a if there's
[1:07:16] nothing any other I'm just looking.
[1:07:18] Okay. Um I'll entertain a motion to
[1:07:21] approve the position classification
[1:07:24] creation andor review policy effective
[1:07:28] today.
[1:07:31] So move second.
[1:07:33] >> All those in favor?
[1:07:34] >> I I
[1:07:36] >> Thank you.
[1:07:37] >> And then the only other one for tonight
[1:07:39] would be the grant authorization policy.
[1:07:42] >> Yeah, that made sense.
[1:07:43] >> Well, as you can see, it was from many
[1:07:45] years ago. Started in 2007, then it went
[1:07:47] to 2011. Well, in the past 15 years, how
[1:07:51] we use grants, how we apply for grants,
[1:07:53] who's applying for grants, the size of
[1:07:55] grants, that has all changed. Um, so now
[1:08:00] there's we there were fewer and much
[1:08:02] generally higher grants back then. Now
[1:08:04] we're applying for small grants all the
[1:08:06] time within a department. Um, so
[1:08:10] >> written as and was also written when
[1:08:12] there was no town administrator
[1:08:13] position. So everything went from a
[1:08:14] department head directly to the select
[1:08:16] board. So now I don't think you really
[1:08:19] want to see every $3,000 $4,000 grant
[1:08:22] bringing people in for that um that
[1:08:25] process to to go through the select
[1:08:27] board uh because it can hold up applying
[1:08:30] for grants when the deadlines are due. A
[1:08:32] lot of grants are there are a lot of
[1:08:34] small grants. Obviously any work done by
[1:08:36] a department that would require any kind
[1:08:38] of financial or appropriated funds or
[1:08:41] matching funds usually goes has to go
[1:08:43] through finan board anyway because you
[1:08:44] have to find out where's the funding
[1:08:46] coming from. That makes sense. That's
[1:08:48] not really kind of that that part of the
[1:08:50] process would still continue because
[1:08:52] some
[1:08:52] >> Right. And you've got that covered in
[1:08:54] step one,
[1:08:55] >> right?
[1:08:56] >> So, um any other um
[1:08:59] >> No, look good to me. That's what I
[1:09:01] thought. That's fine.
[1:09:03] >> I don't want to like slow down a small
[1:09:05] grant by having to schedule it with the
[1:09:07] select board, especially if it's for
[1:09:09] another board that's elected and they're
[1:09:12] kind of within their own. There's a lot
[1:09:13] of sewer ones now as well like we like
[1:09:17] we get from the for the council on
[1:09:18] aging. I mean that's an annual
[1:09:21] >> grant they have to fill out. We have to
[1:09:23] fill it all out but it's annual. I mean
[1:09:25] it's
[1:09:26] >> right and I went back and I looked
[1:09:28] through the the minutes. We periodically
[1:09:30] do an entire grant update anyway on all
[1:09:33] the ones that have been awarded.
[1:09:35] >> So um I'm fine with this. I don't want
[1:09:38] to speak for the whole board, but
[1:09:40] >> No, she's actually been doing some of
[1:09:41] this, too, because she's bringing
[1:09:42] grants, tell us what the grants are. So,
[1:09:44] been happening pretty much.
[1:09:45] >> There's peaks when they're all due in
[1:09:47] the spring and some then we get awards.
[1:09:49] So, they it seems to go up and down on
[1:09:51] where we are.
[1:09:52] >> Okay, we got another one.
[1:09:54] >> Oh, want made a motion?
[1:09:55] >> Yeah, go up. Great.
[1:09:56] >> Motion to accept the grant authorization
[1:09:59] policy.
[1:10:00] >> So moved.
[1:10:01] >> Second.
[1:10:02] >> All those in favor? I
[1:10:04] >> I speak up later.
[1:10:06] >> Wow. Two more done.
[1:10:08] So, thank you to Becky and Andrea. We're
[1:10:11] rolling right through our policy
[1:10:13] updates. Cool.
[1:10:15] >> Okay, let's talk about potential
[1:10:17] Falltown meeting warrant articles.
[1:10:19] Something more scintillating.
[1:10:21] So, I gave you a copy of a draft. It's
[1:10:24] very rough draft because technically I'm
[1:10:26] still expecting a possible couple of
[1:10:28] more tomorrow from Sue. That's why
[1:10:29] there's blanks here and there. And
[1:10:31] >> uh and these aren't necessarily in any
[1:10:33] particular order.
[1:10:34] >> Yeah. Um, right now I've just put
[1:10:36] everything in every including the
[1:10:38] kitchen sink. You don't even have to
[1:10:40] include all of these,
[1:10:41] >> including the lawnmower,
[1:10:42] >> right? But, um, but basically everything
[1:10:45] that is sort of out there. Um, and we
[1:10:47] can go through obviously the EMS
[1:10:48] building is one. I don't know that it
[1:10:50] will be your first warrant article. You
[1:10:51] may choose to put it somewhere else, but
[1:10:52] I just plugged it first.
[1:10:54] >> But this is this is the first draft,
[1:10:56] >> correct? Absolutely. None of
[1:10:58] >> We don't have to vote on it. This is
[1:10:59] just for us.
[1:11:00] >> Oh gosh. No. Oh gosh. Actually, they
[1:11:02] close tomorrow. I'm still expecting a
[1:11:03] couple from sewer tomorrow. So, this is
[1:11:06] just kind of so you guys can kind of see where we're at. I mean, there's 13.
[1:11:10] That doesn't mean, like I said, that you
[1:11:11] have to do every one of these at the
[1:11:12] fall time meeting. I just wanted you to
[1:11:14] see what's out there, whether you're
[1:11:16] going to push things off, and if you do,
[1:11:18] what makes sense or why you would,
[1:11:20] >> but um and again, they're in no
[1:11:22] particular order at this time. They're
[1:11:24] just sort of placed. Um the first one,
[1:11:26] obviously, the EMS building. We don't
[1:11:28] have any language in yet as to that. It would be discussed. It's a
[1:11:32] placeholder.
[1:11:33] >> Uh number two, um we've been working a
[1:11:36] little bit on these town properties of
[1:11:38] which we've had dozens and um picked
[1:11:42] away at a few last time to put them in
[1:11:46] um article 93 conservation. So that's
[1:11:48] all taken care of. So um we've been
[1:11:51] looking at a few that the that there's
[1:11:53] no problems with the title that the town
[1:11:55] could move forward with. Three of these
[1:11:58] are very very tiny.
[1:12:01] little little lots. Um
[1:12:04] >> are they next to each other? They could
[1:12:05] be grouped up.
[1:12:06] >> No, no, no. You got you got Burnham
[1:12:08] Road, Skill Center Road, Cross Road, and
[1:12:11] Four Mile Brook Road. So, none of them
[1:12:13] are, but one of them is, you know, 0.06.
[1:12:16] I mean,
[1:12:17] >> now the reason to release them to the
[1:12:19] Karen Cussy, the select board, is
[1:12:20] because the select board can then
[1:12:22] determine what to do with them. Treasure
[1:12:24] just sits on them. She can't conserve
[1:12:26] them. She can't sell them to an ab
[1:12:28] butter. she can't do anything with them.
[1:12:31] Um, but the select board are the only
[1:12:33] ones that can do anything with town
[1:12:35] property. So, by getting them moved to
[1:12:38] the select board, each one of these
[1:12:39] could be dealt with potentially in an
[1:12:42] appropriate manner. These are just the
[1:12:44] ones that were deed to the town or have
[1:12:45] a clear uh title. These four on the
[1:12:48] next.
[1:12:49] >> Okay.
[1:12:49] >> And we can discuss them each
[1:12:50] individually at a future meeting. I just
[1:12:52] wanted to put them on there.
[1:12:53] >> Mhm.
[1:12:54] >> Because we keep putting them off and I'd
[1:12:56] love to see some of this stuff go back
[1:12:58] on the tax role um rather than sit for
[1:13:02] decades.
[1:13:03] >> Well, we did a successful chunk of these
[1:13:05] last year that were related.
[1:13:08] >> Um
[1:13:10] I don't know if anyone had a chance to
[1:13:12] take a look at the handout. Oh, I'm sure sure you guys looked at it, but
[1:13:17] the um the ones that were highlighted,
[1:13:20] three out of those are less than an
[1:13:22] acre.
[1:13:24] 0063
[1:13:27] 69. And then there's one property on
[1:13:29] four four mile brook that's over 7 acres
[1:13:32] that could be sold. So, it doesn't one
[1:13:36] of these things is not like the others.
[1:13:38] So, three are very small parcels that
[1:13:42] perhaps a neighbor would be.
[1:13:43] >> That's often what happens. Or in the one
[1:13:46] case, the Gil Center Road one. Um,
[1:13:49] >> yeah,
[1:13:49] >> that's really should be uh combined with
[1:13:52] the cemetery that the town owns next to
[1:13:54] it. It's one that literally goes down
[1:13:56] the hill. Like it says 63, but it's it's
[1:13:59] literally
[1:14:00] >> that's the piece that's on the corner of
[1:14:02] the very corner
[1:14:02] >> the main road in Route 10.
[1:14:04] >> And then right next to it is the
[1:14:05] cemetery which the 10. So the point is
[1:14:07] if the select board got it into their
[1:14:09] care and custody, you could then we
[1:14:11] could then just do an ANR and put the
[1:14:12] pieces together and make it essentially
[1:14:14] part of the cemetery. Okay.
[1:14:16] >> Rather than have it hanging out there
[1:14:17] >> and a cemetery we actually own too,
[1:14:19] right?
[1:14:19] >> Yes. Yes. That's why we put together
[1:14:22] >> but make it could be used as a cemetery
[1:14:24] or is it not?
[1:14:25] >> I don't I haven't walked it enough to
[1:14:27] see whether you could Well, a little bit
[1:14:29] of land and then drops. So there might
[1:14:31] potentially be some room there. I don't
[1:14:33] know. I didn't I haven't walked it. I
[1:14:34] mean it's something you could explore
[1:14:36] it. It is and but the idea is to put it
[1:14:38] together call it part of the cemetery
[1:14:40] and then it's
[1:14:41] >> preserved
[1:14:42] >> and then it's off the rolls.
[1:14:43] >> Correct. And we can say it's been it's
[1:14:45] been taken from the treasurer otherwise
[1:14:47] it sits in the treasure.
[1:14:48] >> So some of these smaller ones as far as
[1:14:49] we know once we take it off maybe a
[1:14:51] letter sent out to an audience
[1:14:54] what happens you know give you first
[1:14:56] write a refusal or something like that.
[1:14:58] you can just reach out and say, "Are you
[1:14:59] interested in this property?" And and
[1:15:01] sometimes the butter just will add it as
[1:15:03] a
[1:15:04] >> because really it's not a building.
[1:15:05] Nobody could actually build on it
[1:15:06] because they're less than one.
[1:15:07] >> They're small. They're nonbuildable.
[1:15:09] >> Okay. Except that one acre one
[1:15:12] >> except for that one, right? But they've
[1:15:14] been sitting on this one for
[1:15:17] >> So just so uh Shane's familiar,
[1:15:20] >> years. These we started on these last
[1:15:23] year because they had been sitting on
[1:15:26] the books for like a couple of decades.
[1:15:28] >> I think we attempted to take care of all
[1:15:31] of them a couple of years ago or maybe
[1:15:33] half of them and there was a lot of push
[1:15:35] back from people about
[1:15:38] having to turn them over to the
[1:15:39] [laughter] select.
[1:15:40] >> So that's why we did small we're doing
[1:15:42] >> so then we're doing smaller chunks that
[1:15:43] are easier to explain and then people
[1:15:45] are like oh okay I get it. So, um, we
[1:15:48] had our first successful chunk at last
[1:15:50] year's, um, town meeting. So, that's
[1:15:53] why. So, now we're just kind of looking
[1:15:55] at the next chunk and it's really the
[1:15:58] what I'm calling like the itty bitty
[1:15:59] properties and then the um,
[1:16:01] >> or very clear title that the town has.
[1:16:04] Some of them have some other
[1:16:05] >> title issues
[1:16:06] >> issues that we have to clear up.
[1:16:09] >> Yeah.
[1:16:10] Um, any other thoughts on that? Do you
[1:16:12] guys want to see that on the fall town
[1:16:15] meeting? Do you feel that's a reasonable
[1:16:17] explanation?
[1:16:18] >> Sure.
[1:16:19] >> Long as it's small.
[1:16:21] >> Well, you have one that would be a
[1:16:22] building lot,
[1:16:23] >> the 7 acre one,
[1:16:25] >> right?
[1:16:25] >> Do you guys want to do that in the fall
[1:16:27] or do you want to do that one separately
[1:16:29] in
[1:16:29] >> It's nice to move them so that they get
[1:16:31] back on the tax.
[1:16:32] >> I would have that one off because that's
[1:16:34] a sellable piece of property. I would
[1:16:36] lump the other ones together cuz
[1:16:38] >> it's
[1:16:39] >> they're not buildable,
[1:16:40] >> right?
[1:16:41] >> That's just my spin. Yeah,
[1:16:43] >> I think we have to do them individually,
[1:16:45] don't we?
[1:16:46] >> No, they go one article.
[1:16:48] >> Oh, in one article. Yeah. Then the
[1:16:49] seventh one.
[1:16:51] >> Oh, yeah. Well, they're going to be done
[1:16:52] differently in your in your ultimate
[1:16:54] disposition. Yes. You would decide.
[1:16:56] >> All that does is a release to be able to
[1:16:58] do something
[1:17:00] >> because right now nobody can do anything
[1:17:01] with it. The treasurer just sits on it.
[1:17:03] The select.
[1:17:04] >> How many others do we have beside that?
[1:17:05] Are there quite more?
[1:17:08] Well, but some of these are are not
[1:17:10] going to some of them we can't actually
[1:17:12] I don't think you'll ever discover them.
[1:17:13] Some of them it turns out we don't
[1:17:15] actually know who owns them and so
[1:17:17] they've been lumped into the town's care
[1:17:19] into the town's file.
[1:17:21] >> But some of these but they're tiny
[1:17:22] little parcels on the ridge.17 owner
[1:17:25] unknown.17
[1:17:27] owner unknown.
[1:17:29] >> I don't think the town will ever be able
[1:17:30] to do anything with those
[1:17:32] >> except if there if there's a neighboring
[1:17:34] not
[1:17:35] >> you can't transfer them if you don't own
[1:17:36] clear town. That's true.
[1:17:37] >> Can you take them by eminent domain? Is
[1:17:39] that
[1:17:39] >> you could Okay.
[1:17:40] >> You could and the problem with that so
[1:17:44] that they could then go to an abuter who
[1:17:45] might be in
[1:17:46] >> correct. That's the only way we could to
[1:17:48] me would be put them together and talk
[1:17:50] about that.
[1:17:51] >> That's a whole another chunk.
[1:17:52] >> Correct.
[1:17:52] >> Okay.
[1:17:53] >> Next year.
[1:17:54] >> Okay. So, what's the consensus so far on this warrant one that we do the itty
[1:17:59] bitty chunk and then um do the seven
[1:18:01] acre one in the annual or you want to
[1:18:05] >> I would do it all at once. And again,
[1:18:07] disposition all this does is takes them
[1:18:08] out of there and allows you but I also
[1:18:11] know what the um the push back has been
[1:18:14] to
[1:18:14] >> what's the push back?
[1:18:16] >> Oh, on the seven one you can put it up
[1:18:18] for auction.
[1:18:19] >> Yes.
[1:18:20] >> And then if they want it, they can bid
[1:18:22] on it.
[1:18:23] >> Okay. So, do you
[1:18:24] >> They don't bid, they can keep their
[1:18:25] mouth shut.
[1:18:26] >> I'm just Okay.
[1:18:28] >> Well, okay. So, you guys, let me do it
[1:18:31] this way. Are you in favor of putting
[1:18:33] all four together in one um warrant
[1:18:36] article?
[1:18:38] >> Yeah.
[1:18:38] >> Well, let's if you want to just so that
[1:18:40] we get the three through and then put
[1:18:42] the other one separate
[1:18:44] >> as a separate article.
[1:18:46] >> It does the same thing.
[1:18:48] >> I know it does the same thing. I'm just
[1:18:50] thinking that Yeah. Again, the
[1:18:52] disposition as far as doing that uh
[1:18:54] would be now that we can do something
[1:18:56] with it. If you decide that the other
[1:18:57] ones, the first the small ones that are
[1:19:00] not buildable,
[1:19:01] >> you would offer them maybe to the
[1:19:03] neighbor or
[1:19:04] >> Yeah. So,
[1:19:05] >> and then this this the seven acre one,
[1:19:07] you got to make sure it's a building
[1:19:09] lot. I would say
[1:19:10] >> it's a building lot.
[1:19:11] >> Okay. So, and then you have the town
[1:19:13] auction that off.
[1:19:14] >> Yes. I'm just talking about the warrant
[1:19:16] article itself transferring the care and
[1:19:20] custody from the treasurer to the select
[1:19:22] board
[1:19:24] >> because
[1:19:25] so when David said what do you say cav
[1:19:28] off the um the
[1:19:30] >> offer what do you mean by the cving out
[1:19:32] >> make that its own thing in in the autumn
[1:19:36] >> in a separate article?
[1:19:37] >> Yep. Because I just my impression is
[1:19:40] someone in town is going to be like,
[1:19:41] "Wait, you're trying to lump all these
[1:19:42] small ones with this big one and it's
[1:19:43] going to create a
[1:19:46] perception.
[1:19:46] >> We got three tiny pieces."
[1:19:47] >> I'm with David on that one.
[1:19:50] >> You single it out.
[1:19:51] >> So perception you had to Okay.
[1:19:54] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Sorry, I wasn't
[1:19:55] clear on that. David just do it that way
[1:19:59] >> because otherwise you have all this
[1:20:00] discussion about three itty bitty things
[1:20:02] and really the the main issue is might
[1:20:05] be with the seven acre one. So in
[1:20:07] explaining that the first one these are
[1:20:09] small unbuild unbuildable
[1:20:12] partials
[1:20:12] >> the itty bitty article and then the next
[1:20:14] one will be the seven.
[1:20:17] Yeah this is a buildable piece of
[1:20:18] property that we'll be looking at
[1:20:20] disposable maybe through auction
[1:20:23] >> or I don't even know
[1:20:24] >> you have to there's only two ways to
[1:20:25] sell a person piece of property but but
[1:20:27] the nice I mean what we're trying to say
[1:20:28] is you know people
[1:20:29] >> talk about taxes and revenue and this is
[1:20:32] it's nice to get this revenue into the
[1:20:34] town. We're sitting on this for a dozen
[1:20:36] years. have been sitting on this, no
[1:20:37] taxes being paid and certainly no one
[1:20:39] building a house on it, which is more
[1:20:41] taxes. So, we're trying to there's a
[1:20:42] ways to do revenue with this getting
[1:20:44] even the little bitty ones getting added
[1:20:46] add a small portion of taxes back on the
[1:20:48] tax rate.
[1:20:48] >> Okay.
[1:20:50] >> I understand what you're saying then,
[1:20:51] sir.
[1:20:51] >> Okay, good. Thanks for translating,
[1:20:54] David. The um so it's two articles then.
[1:20:57] Anything else on that? You guys good
[1:20:59] with that?
[1:21:00] >> I'm good with it.
[1:21:00] >> Okay, cool. Let's do that.
[1:21:04] uh moratorum
[1:21:06] >> article three.
[1:21:07] >> And so we're going to this sounds like
[1:21:08] the planning board is going to be
[1:21:10] delivering some language to us on
[1:21:13] article 3 4
[1:21:17] >> three and four
[1:21:18] >> four five will be taken care of
[1:21:25] expenses for the planning board legal
[1:21:27] consulting expenses 50,000 more. Have we
[1:21:31] got any final?
[1:21:33] >> I don't have all the bills yet, but I
[1:21:34] >> So that might change.
[1:21:35] >> So that might go up.
[1:21:36] >> That's as high as it's going to get.
[1:21:38] Well,
[1:21:38] >> that's the worst case scenario.
[1:21:40] >> That's what I'm saying right now. But I
[1:21:41] think
[1:21:42] >> until I see the bills for the next plus,
[1:21:44] we have another meeting this week, so
[1:21:47] we're still expending legal fees, but um
[1:21:51] hoping so the hope is that this is the
[1:21:53] worst case scenario, but that's the
[1:21:54] placeholder amount for now.
[1:21:57] >> Okay. And then article six is um we're
[1:22:01] catching up on
[1:22:04] $6725.
[1:22:07] They explained how that got
[1:22:08] >> Yeah, it was kind of a short
[1:22:09] >> there's a change in hours that didn't
[1:22:11] get translated into the budget sheet
[1:22:13] that calculated it. So the rate and the
[1:22:15] person are fine,
[1:22:16] >> but the hours got bumped up and so we
[1:22:18] calculated it at the old hours.
[1:22:20] >> Okay.
[1:22:21] >> Mhm.
[1:22:21] >> So that's just to correct that.
[1:22:23] >> Is that for that's for FY27 budget?
[1:22:26] >> That's this current year. Yes. Okay. All
[1:22:27] right. I have put down six. Okay. Um,
[1:22:32] payment in lie of taxes.
[1:22:34] >> So, this article is from the assessor's
[1:22:37] office. Okay.
[1:22:38] >> If you'll recall, some of you,
[1:22:39] >> maybe none of you because it would have
[1:22:41] actually been at the beginning of most
[1:22:42] of your time.
[1:22:43] >> Um, the town used to have a tax
[1:22:45] valuation agreement with First Light.
[1:22:48] >> Yes.
[1:22:48] >> I think it was three years. um as
[1:22:51] opposed to what we do now which is hire
[1:22:55] a consultant who does a very expensive
[1:22:57] because it's very specialized uh
[1:22:59] valuation of first light we have to
[1:23:01] split it with Gil and Irving but it
[1:23:05] costs quite a bit of money and then that
[1:23:07] valuation comes in the town uses that
[1:23:10] valuation to assess the taxes and then
[1:23:13] first light appeals so then we hire a
[1:23:16] tax lawyer to go to the appellet tax
[1:23:18] board and we spend quite quite a bit of
[1:23:20] money and time at the appellet tax board
[1:23:23] and then the appella tax board comes
[1:23:24] down with its decision and this is
[1:23:26] typical somewhere in the middle. They
[1:23:29] don't tend to go either way and then we
[1:23:32] have to in order for them to to appe to
[1:23:34] uh file they have to pay. So then we
[1:23:36] have to give them back the difference
[1:23:38] plus interest on their money that we've
[1:23:41] been technically holding. So between
[1:23:44] hiring the expensive consultant, hiring
[1:23:46] the appellet tax board lawyer and paying
[1:23:49] back that money with interest, we've
[1:23:51] determined assessors feel that's a very
[1:23:54] expensive route to take year after year. So this is only talking
[1:24:02] about how to assess taxes to first
[1:24:06] light. That's it.
[1:24:08] So the question is do we continue to do
[1:24:10] the same process that we have for the
[1:24:12] last couple years or do we consider a
[1:24:14] tax valuation agreement which the town
[1:24:17] has done prior? The assessor's office
[1:24:20] feel that it's a that is a much better
[1:24:24] solution um to move forward on the tax
[1:24:27] valuation and it's based on this it's
[1:24:30] based on you know the
[1:24:32] >> the history it's based on the fact that
[1:24:33] we have had valuations done by the
[1:24:35] consultant. They're not making up some
[1:24:38] number and it's an agreement. They're
[1:24:39] working it out. They're having
[1:24:40] consultation and we have lawyers
[1:24:42] involved and then we settle on an
[1:24:43] agreement for like three years.
[1:24:46] >> I was going to ask you how what
[1:24:48] >> I think they're looking at at least
[1:24:48] three years
[1:24:50] >> and they're working with Gil and Irving
[1:24:52] on this.
[1:24:52] >> Oh, okay. Good.
[1:24:53] >> Everybody would be
[1:24:55] correct. Okay.
[1:24:56] >> So, but in order to accept it,
[1:24:59] >> town meeting has to say yes and then the
[1:25:01] select board has to sign it.
[1:25:02] >> Do the other towns also have to do an
[1:25:04] article too? Yes.
[1:25:05] >> Okay.
[1:25:07] >> So anyway, so that's what this article
[1:25:09] is. It's from the assessors of
[1:25:11] >> do a pilot. Does that mean the other two
[1:25:13] towns have to do a pilot as well? It
[1:25:15] >> it it's not really Yes. Yeah. They we
[1:25:18] would all come to the same agreement.
[1:25:19] They'd have their shares. So we'd all
[1:25:21] have a three-year agreement to do this.
[1:25:24] >> But if Northfield,
[1:25:25] >> they could choose to back out. Urban
[1:25:27] could say, "Never mind. We're going to
[1:25:28] go the same route." and but we'd have
[1:25:29] ours and they would agree to that
[1:25:32] Northfield's
[1:25:33] valuation will be this cuz they are
[1:25:35] three different valuations. We've just
[1:25:36] been sharing the consultant because
[1:25:38] that's the best way and the consultant
[1:25:40] does all of them.
[1:25:41] >> So that then [clears throat] once you
[1:25:43] have this you would need a consultant or
[1:25:44] you negotiate every 3 years.
[1:25:46] >> Every three years you'll renegotiate. So
[1:25:48] yeah, you'd still look at the values.
[1:25:49] They'd still be assessing that they'd
[1:25:51] still you're not trapped with something
[1:25:53] in forever and never it's three years.
[1:25:56] So three years is a I would like to see
[1:25:59] it five years but three years is kind of
[1:26:00] the way to go.
[1:26:02] >> I think there three years has been the
[1:26:03] past because you can have huge
[1:26:05] fluctuations. What if they all of a
[1:26:06] sudden in the five years within the
[1:26:08] after 3 years build some big new piece
[1:26:09] of the plant. You'd want to capture
[1:26:11] that.
[1:26:11] >> Yeah.
[1:26:12] >> You don't want to go too far out.
[1:26:14] >> So there's got to be a clause someplace
[1:26:15] when you're doing the negotiations if
[1:26:17] you add dollar that we negotiate right
[1:26:20] now right then and there.
[1:26:22] I yeah, I haven't seen the new
[1:26:24] agreement, so I don't know what's in
[1:26:25] there. Obviously, if you doubled the
[1:26:27] size, I'm sure there's something in
[1:26:28] there, but um but this is something that
[1:26:31] the assessor's office has done before
[1:26:33] and feels much more worth the process.
[1:26:36] >> The beauty of it, you're guaranteed
[1:26:38] payment for 3 years.
[1:26:39] >> Three years. And you know what it's
[1:26:40] going to be. You can budget it. You can
[1:26:43] count on it. You don't have to spend
[1:26:44] money on the lawyers or the consultants
[1:26:47] >> in tax or worry about the interest or
[1:26:50] >> the time to negotiate.
[1:26:52] >> We have to these are not like brief
[1:26:54] negotiations.
[1:26:55] >> If you recall, some of you may have been
[1:26:57] on the board when we had to come up with
[1:26:58] like 80ome,000
[1:27:00] in interest.
[1:27:02] >> Do you remember that discussion? I think
[1:27:04] I repressed it.
[1:27:05] >> I It was on the Yes.
[1:27:07] >> Because when the tax appellet court says
[1:27:09] no, it's not your amount, it's not their
[1:27:11] amount, it's this amount. We have to
[1:27:12] give back the difference and interest at
[1:27:15] like 14%. 12 or 14%.
[1:27:18] >> It was not a fun thing to have.
[1:27:19] >> No. No.
[1:27:20] >> And that's why he put it separate on
[1:27:21] >> and you can pretty much count on the
[1:27:22] fact the tax board's never going to come
[1:27:24] down 100% on your side. So no matter
[1:27:26] what happens, you're probably going to
[1:27:28] be paying some interest.
[1:27:29] >> Okay.
[1:27:30] >> I think it's probably
[1:27:31] >> So again, the article is just how do we
[1:27:33] tax the first light pump storage
[1:27:37] energy? That's it. That's all this is
[1:27:40] about is a taxing methodology
[1:27:41] >> and they're going to have an agreement
[1:27:43] ready when
[1:27:45] >> they're in negotiations now. I can't
[1:27:47] tell you exactly but this would allow
[1:27:49] the minute the agreement's valid for
[1:27:52] >> the both boards to sign the
[1:27:54] >> Okay, that's the next question. Okay,
[1:27:57] >> you wait till May.
[1:27:59] >> Okay. All right. Let's try and get that
[1:28:01] done. Okay. And then article 8 was um a
[1:28:04] lawn mower.
[1:28:05] >> Correct. we have um for the for the town
[1:28:08] hall. So, not the not
[1:28:11] >> not a big one. Just say lawn mower for
[1:28:13] >> Well, I mean, it's a riding mower, but the most recent we've spent quite a
[1:28:17] bit of money on repairs for the mower
[1:28:20] deck, the belt. It doesn't include that
[1:28:22] the bagger doesn't work, that we need
[1:28:24] new tires. Um, so we're putting we're
[1:28:26] putting money into this.
[1:28:28] >> I don't think that was as old as you
[1:28:30] told me it was, though.
[1:28:32] >> Well, it's got it's got a good 15 years
[1:28:34] on it. All right. Do you want to like
[1:28:36] dive into the lawnmower details?
[1:28:40] >> Do I?
[1:28:40] >> Sorry. Yeah.
[1:28:41] >> No, he doesn't.
[1:28:42] >> No, I don't want to do it, but I
[1:28:43] [laughter] I I do recall
[1:28:46] >> I do recall it it being damaged and I
[1:28:49] don't think they replace they
[1:28:51] >> Can you just come back with a quote?
[1:28:54] >> Well, I have a quote.
[1:28:55] >> Oh, okay. Good.
[1:28:56] >> That's why we got
[1:28:57] >> We're not just like Is that a quote from
[1:29:00] Okay,
[1:29:01] >> that's
[1:29:02] >> okay. I know somebody's going to argue
[1:29:03] about it, but um
[1:29:04] >> Yes.
[1:29:05] >> Okay.
[1:29:06] >> And we were adding up the cost of
[1:29:07] getting this one back in shape, and we
[1:29:09] just weren't sure that it made sense to
[1:29:11] >> Well, if you're spending $2,000 to fix
[1:29:14] it up and get a new
[1:29:15] >> Oh, I don't think it'd be that much, but
[1:29:16] even if it had a,000, how long?
[1:29:19] >> We're good. [laughter]
[1:29:20] >> That's right.
[1:29:21] >> It's 3,800 bucks.
[1:29:23] >> It is
[1:29:24] >> for a lawn mower.
[1:29:25] >> Okay. for a rider. We'll have a picture
[1:29:28] and and probably need some I don't know.
[1:29:32] >> Okay. Uh article 9 will be 12,000 to
[1:29:36] make repairs to a highway department
[1:29:38] sander. This is going to be transferred
[1:29:41] from an account that we already had some
[1:29:43] money in. So in 2026 you
[1:29:47] >> which I think he's gotten now. I think
[1:29:49] he mentioned or maybe the new truck.
[1:29:51] Yep.
[1:29:51] >> We had a $200,000 article.
[1:29:53] >> Yeah. and we've spent 156 of that. So,
[1:29:57] he's asking to have this $12,000
[1:30:01] um transferred from that already
[1:30:04] appropriated account.
[1:30:05] >> Yep.
[1:30:05] >> Um to repair and change the direction of
[1:30:08] the sander for plowing.
[1:30:10] >> Oh, so we're transferring from an
[1:30:12] appropriated account
[1:30:14] >> to another account.
[1:30:16] >> Correct. Okay.
[1:30:17] >> Because it was voted for that truck, we
[1:30:19] can't spend it on the sand this sand.
[1:30:21] have to have town meeting tell us it's
[1:30:23] okay.
[1:30:23] >> It's a transfer. So, we're doing using
[1:30:25] the money for the right purpose. Got it.
[1:30:27] >> Have you just transferred just normally?
[1:30:29] >> No, because it's a special article.
[1:30:31] >> Oh, that's right. It's an article.
[1:30:32] >> Yep. Yep. Okay. Article 10 is 24,000 to
[1:30:35] purchase a new equipment trailer. Is
[1:30:37] this for highway as well?
[1:30:38] >> We would also be transferring it from
[1:30:40] that same account.
[1:30:41] >> That's a transfer as well.
[1:30:42] >> Correct.
[1:30:43] >> Oh. Oh. Oh.
[1:30:43] >> We had 200. We spent 155. The 12 took us
[1:30:46] to leaving 32. And
[1:30:48] >> we're waiting on the We're waiting on
[1:30:49] the language. 24 would mean we'd still
[1:30:51] have about $8,200 that we'd probably
[1:30:52] turn back into the town.
[1:30:54] >> Pay for the new lawnmower.
[1:30:56] >> You can.
[1:30:58] >> Oh, can we transfer extra and do the
[1:30:59] lawnmower?
[1:31:00] >> Sure.
[1:31:01] >> Why don't we do that?
[1:31:01] >> You can once you take you can do that.
[1:31:03] >> You thought it was a joke. I'm like,
[1:31:05] >> "No, no, you can do that."
[1:31:06] >> Shame your genius.
[1:31:08] >> Thank you.
[1:31:11] >> Because once you go to town meeting, you
[1:31:12] can take those funds and vote them for
[1:31:14] anything.
[1:31:14] >> Is there enough left in that to be able
[1:31:16] to
[1:31:16] >> Oh, yeah. With both of these highway
[1:31:18] department transfers, there's still
[1:31:19] 8,200.
[1:31:21] >> So, we could do the 3,800 from that
[1:31:23] account.
[1:31:23] >> Well, that's
[1:31:25] >> okay.
[1:31:25] >> That'd be a smart move like that.
[1:31:27] >> Then it's no new appropriation,
[1:31:29] >> right?
[1:31:29] >> Or free cash.
[1:31:31] >> Okay. So, we need to finalize these this
[1:31:35] entire warrant by I'm looking at the
[1:31:38] calendar by
[1:31:41] um my calendar meeting is Thursday,
[1:31:44] November 19th. Right. So,
[1:31:47] >> the select board signs said warrant on
[1:31:50] October 27th. So, we this is not our
[1:31:54] first and only gander at this. Okay.
[1:31:57] >> We'll have language next time. Right.
[1:31:59] >> Right. Correct. So, we're still working.
[1:32:01] We've got the and then we're going to
[1:32:02] Shane, we're going to get to what you
[1:32:04] had mentioned. Uh but article 11 and 12
[1:32:08] are sewer,
[1:32:09] >> right? And I just heard about them
[1:32:10] today. So, he's supposed to be getting
[1:32:12] me the details tomorrow.
[1:32:13] >> Okay.
[1:32:14] >> Um
[1:32:15] >> All right. And then we talked earlier
[1:32:17] about having a revolving funds account
[1:32:19] for fire department inspection.
[1:32:20] >> Correct. And that's 13
[1:32:22] >> instead of keeping an account line open
[1:32:24] on the fire department budget
[1:32:26] >> and appropriating it every year.
[1:32:27] >> Yep. Yep. Good. Okay. And then
[1:32:30] >> how the inspections are they to do the
[1:32:32] tanks and that sort of thing?
[1:32:34] >> It's of uh smoke alarms. Every time
[1:32:37] someone sells a house and has to have
[1:32:38] smoke alarms put in or any any
[1:32:40] inspection or permit that they have to
[1:32:42] issue. So yes, it would be any
[1:32:44] protection or
[1:32:44] >> permit it.
[1:32:45] >> So when the town clerk sends out the uh
[1:32:48] flammables
[1:32:50] uh certification as far as doing that
[1:32:52] the money comes back in and we or
[1:32:56] >> well it depends. I I don't know that
[1:32:57] certificate in spec if that one's a town
[1:32:59] and it's made out to the well it may be
[1:33:01] made out to the town but yes if we pay a
[1:33:03] person to go do that from the fire
[1:33:04] department because they're inspect it's
[1:33:07] probably we're already paying them. We
[1:33:10] just are depositing the one check and
[1:33:12] then taking it out of an appropriate.
[1:33:13] >> So it should be going into that fund.
[1:33:14] >> It should be a revolving. Yeah,
[1:33:15] >> it should be going into this fund.
[1:33:16] >> So when it comes in, it goes out. It
[1:33:18] comes in.
[1:33:18] >> So that will be done by uh tax collector
[1:33:21] or not tax collector but
[1:33:22] >> revolving funds are managed by the
[1:33:24] accounting department.
[1:33:25] >> So So when she puts that out and she
[1:33:27] marks it flammables and they're $200
[1:33:29] $300 that's going to go into this fund
[1:33:31] now.
[1:33:33] >> Yeah. I'm not Yeah, I'm not sure that I'd have to know what that permit
[1:33:36] is. I can't speak to that permit, but it
[1:33:38] >> supposed to be inspections of flammable,
[1:33:40] >> right? And some some portion of
[1:33:42] >> Can we just take a note
[1:33:44] >> and and go over that with Amanda and
[1:33:46] with Mike Quinn if needed?
[1:33:48] >> Yeah, some of them
[1:33:49] >> as to whether what would fall under
[1:33:51] here. I was thinking mostly this was on
[1:33:53] the to-do list from the fire department
[1:33:55] perspective because we're we actually
[1:33:58] have a line item in their budget that
[1:34:00] really should be a revolving account
[1:34:02] similar to like what the wreck does when
[1:34:05] somebody signs up for a program.
[1:34:07] >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that the
[1:34:09] funds are going into the right place
[1:34:10] that this is being uh
[1:34:12] >> but since we can't answer that right
[1:34:14] now, if we could just take an action
[1:34:15] item to get to the bottom of that and
[1:34:17] then make sure we've got an appropriate
[1:34:20] description, that would be great. fire
[1:34:21] department officers paid to do that
[1:34:23] inspection, then this fund would go in
[1:34:24] this account.
[1:34:25] >> Okay. All right. Anything else? Uh
[1:34:28] Shane, you were talking about a topic.
[1:34:32] You wanted something on the fall town
[1:34:35] meeting um warrant article before we
[1:34:38] because we're effectively cutting this
[1:34:40] off.
[1:34:42] And um do you want to
[1:34:46] >> Yeah, I looked
[1:34:46] >> I just want to give you some information
[1:34:47] on it too now that we're in the public
[1:34:49] meeting. [laughter]
[1:34:50] So go ahead.
[1:34:51] >> Yeah.
[1:34:52] >> So I've been I've heard from a lot of
[1:34:55] people and I'm actually in agreement
[1:34:56] with going to an electronic uh voting
[1:34:59] system for town meeting. Um it's going
[1:35:01] to cut down the amount of time that
[1:35:03] takes to go through town meeting.
[1:35:05] >> Yep.
[1:35:06] >> Um it's going to make things more
[1:35:07] accurate and the results are right up in
[1:35:09] front of you. Um the cost of the systems
[1:35:12] are about $15,000
[1:35:14] all in with two or 300 clickers and it's
[1:35:18] something that we could share with other
[1:35:19] towns as well because we don't have town
[1:35:20] meetings on the same day.
[1:35:22] >> So I I've had quite a lengthy
[1:35:24] conversation with Amanda over months
[1:35:26] over this because we've gone back and
[1:35:27] forth. So there's a couple of things
[1:35:31] that we had to look at. Um if you if you
[1:35:37] >> there's a programming fee. So lending
[1:35:38] them to another town meeting. See
[1:35:40] >> before we get into electronic voting
[1:35:42] details.
[1:35:44] >> I don't think this actually needs to be
[1:35:45] on the town meeting because we talked I
[1:35:48] went back and I looked at the minutes.
[1:35:50] >> We actually talked about this topic.
[1:35:54] >> Three times last year at because another
[1:35:58] select board member raised it and wanted
[1:35:59] to move [clears throat] it forward. And
[1:36:01] the uh details and the suggestion from
[1:36:03] the select board was
[1:36:06] to lay out the costs, to do the pros and
[1:36:08] cons, to talk to the town clerk, town
[1:36:11] moderator, have vendor demos, and then
[1:36:14] come back with a proposal that would go
[1:36:16] on the
[1:36:18] into possibly the operating budget and
[1:36:21] the capital budget. So, I'm not sure we
[1:36:24] need to do it on the town meeting
[1:36:26] warrants per se as much as just
[1:36:28] following the
[1:36:29] >> Well, you wouldn't be doing it for this
[1:36:31] fall probably because I don't think we
[1:36:33] have that information.
[1:36:34] >> Yeah. What we were waiting on
[1:36:36] >> Yeah.
[1:36:36] >> previously was we just kept asking,
[1:36:39] "Well, do you have any figures? Do you
[1:36:40] have any details?"
[1:36:41] >> I do.
[1:36:42] >> Well, they they never did. That's why we
[1:36:44] never moved on it.
[1:36:46] >> Right. There's But there's two options.
[1:36:50] >> There's owning everything. Correct.
[1:36:51] paying the annual cost for the software
[1:36:54] and fees and how much equipment you're
[1:36:55] going to own and then there's just
[1:36:57] hiring them to come and they bring
[1:36:58] everything and do everything. So the I
[1:37:01] don't know which which company this is.
[1:37:03] The one that I looked at I asked that
[1:37:05] question. There is no year-to-year fees.
[1:37:08] >> You have to pay for the software. That
[1:37:10] was the orange turned over invoice.
[1:37:12] >> This is
[1:37:12] >> okay. So
[1:37:13] >> there's there's probably multiple
[1:37:14] companies that do it. So
[1:37:15] >> yeah, this is the big one.
[1:37:17] >> So we're not opposed to it.
[1:37:19] >> Um actually the town clerk has met with
[1:37:23] some vendors at her town.
[1:37:24] >> She went and she spoke with these guys.
[1:37:26] Meridia, this is kind of the big boy on
[1:37:28] the block. I'll have to look at the
[1:37:29] company. I'll send you the information
[1:37:30] of the one that I talked with.
[1:37:31] >> Yeah. But um but it was pretty clear
[1:37:33] that we saw there's an annual fee
[1:37:36] because you have to pay for the
[1:37:37] software.
[1:37:37] >> I did ask that question. This company
[1:37:39] that I was talking to did not have an
[1:37:40] annual fee and I have it on in the
[1:37:42] annual that they did not because that's
[1:37:45] one of the questions is is there an
[1:37:46] annual fee? Is there maintenance
[1:37:47] clauses? And the answer was no one. No.
[1:37:50] >> Yeah. I don't think there's a
[1:37:51] maintenance thing. But
[1:37:52] >> so who programs the uh computer then
[1:37:54] that
[1:37:55] >> they it's all programmed. It has to be
[1:37:57] programmed every time you have
[1:37:58] >> every year. He every town meeting you
[1:38:01] he'd have he'd have to program it.
[1:38:03] >> I'll ask that question.
[1:38:04] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:38:05] >> Without going into the weeds on it.
[1:38:07] >> I'm all for it.
[1:38:09] >> But there's also Well, there's a bunch
[1:38:11] of questions. I mean, if you go, you
[1:38:13] can't just buy a couple hundred because
[1:38:15] we have some we've had some town
[1:38:16] meetings where we had 500 people. I
[1:38:18] understand they're the more unusual, but
[1:38:19] they're also the more complicated ones
[1:38:21] when you probably would want to use.
[1:38:22] >> So 500 cookers was the first price they
[1:38:24] gave you that was $20,000.
[1:38:26] >> Yeah. And the problem with that
[1:38:27] partially for us is we don't have a
[1:38:29] place to put 500 clickers in the
[1:38:32] building securely.
[1:38:34] >> Can can
[1:38:34] >> So I mean we were just looking at all
[1:38:36] the logistics. [clears throat]
[1:38:37] >> We're basically
[1:38:39] no offense to you.
[1:38:42] We're basically having the same
[1:38:43] discussion. We had at least two select
[1:38:46] board meetings last year. And then the
[1:38:48] select board member was going to and we
[1:38:50] had a lot of at the top level
[1:38:56] information similar to this and nobody
[1:38:59] had a problem with it other than come
[1:39:01] back with a proposal and make sure it's
[1:39:04] gone through. I'm just looking at the
[1:39:05] notes. make sure it's um included the
[1:39:08] town clerk cuz you have to look at how
[1:39:10] much
[1:39:12] um what the town clerk needs to do, what
[1:39:14] the election workers need to do, and if
[1:39:16] there's any additional labor associated
[1:39:18] with that. So then we were like that
[1:39:21] would be operating for the new fiscal
[1:39:23] year and then any capital expenses
[1:39:26] associated for the new year. So then it
[1:39:29] would go on the annual town meeting
[1:39:30] because you're actually asking for a new
[1:39:32] potentially new capital expense and
[1:39:35] you're also possibly up upping the town
[1:39:39] clerk budget by a significant amount.
[1:39:41] >> Yeah. Oh, and I had that discussion with
[1:39:42] her. I mean, she she would
[1:39:44] >> I know we just haven't had the
[1:39:45] discussion with Shane, unfortunately.
[1:39:47] >> That was she needs
[1:39:48] >> before Shane.
[1:39:49] >> They have to they have to I will go back
[1:39:51] and look at the meeting minutes. I'll
[1:39:53] find those and read them through and
[1:39:55] >> I'll get my stuff together and get it
[1:39:57] forward. I just wanted to bring it up.
[1:39:59] >> Yeah. No, I'm
[1:40:00] >> and I would Yeah. And talking with um Amanda's a good thing because because
[1:40:06] Amanda is concerned about having these
[1:40:11] storing them, programming them, election
[1:40:14] workers, having to test every one of
[1:40:16] them. Um and that that that's the thing.
[1:40:19] So,
[1:40:20] >> she's not against them where no one's
[1:40:21] against them.
[1:40:22] >> Nobody I just want to make it clear. I
[1:40:24] think everybody's really intrigued and
[1:40:26] wants to go to a demo and wants to get
[1:40:28] to the next step.
[1:40:30] >> Just given the logistics of last year,
[1:40:32] we never got to the next step unless
[1:40:34] somebody stepped up and actually got us
[1:40:36] to the next step. So understood.
[1:40:38] >> And I know that at UMass, for instance,
[1:40:40] in the big lecture halls, you have to
[1:40:42] buy a clicker for class. Oh, as a
[1:40:45] student.
[1:40:45] >> As a student, every student has to have
[1:40:47] a clicker because in all the big
[1:40:48] classes, teachers are asking you
[1:40:50] questions. You have to respond and give
[1:40:51] you. So, it's is exactly the same system
[1:40:54] just in a different application.
[1:40:55] >> So, you have the uh not elected
[1:40:58] officials, but everybody in town
[1:41:00] purchasing a clicker.
[1:41:01] >> No. No. Okay.
[1:41:02] >> The town purchased the clicker. When you
[1:41:04] check in, you get a clicker. Um is the
[1:41:07] way we test it right there on the spot.
[1:41:08] It's yes, no, or abstain. Those are your
[1:41:11] options. And you can they'll put a timer
[1:41:13] up on the wall and you have, you know,
[1:41:14] 30 seconds to make your choice.
[1:41:16] >> Oh yeah, I understand how no
[1:41:18] >> uh but you you've got to factor into the
[1:41:20] budget. Uh what does it actually cost?
[1:41:23] You're going to have initial cost for
[1:41:24] the for the hardware
[1:41:26] >> and the battery things of that nature.
[1:41:29] What it cost for the battery cost to you
[1:41:32] have to program these. It's just like
[1:41:33] programming anything.
[1:41:34] >> Well, you're programming the computer
[1:41:36] for each.
[1:41:37] >> Correct. Yeah. Correct.
[1:41:39] But something somebody has to pay for
[1:41:40] that. So, that's part of it. Um, the
[1:41:43] other half of that is if you you issue a
[1:41:47] wine, you give them a number, you check
[1:41:49] it off their name. If they don't give it
[1:41:51] back at the end of the night, you assess
[1:41:53] them whatever the cost is.
[1:41:54] >> You can't
[1:41:55] >> because or or they have to get it back
[1:41:56] to you.
[1:41:57] >> You have to go get them.
[1:41:58] >> Yeah.
[1:41:59] >> It's it's
[1:42:00] >> I mean, that's that's the the thing is
[1:42:01] you start losing some of these things,
[1:42:03] which people are not the greatest.
[1:42:05] >> No, there's all sorts of logistical.
[1:42:06] >> They should be thrown in a box or
[1:42:08] something like like they do it down at
[1:42:09] Disney. take out the glasses for
[1:42:10] >> I think I think if you could because now
[1:42:14] you have familiarity with it too.
[1:42:15] >> Pick point on it and then I'll move to
[1:42:17] Amanda.
[1:42:17] >> And if you could do the pros and cons
[1:42:19] with Amanda and then um list those out
[1:42:23] because I think there is a pro to the
[1:42:25] rental potentially based on what we
[1:42:27] talked about last year.
[1:42:28] >> So if you could just come back with a
[1:42:30] proposal then we could shepherd it
[1:42:32] through this process.
[1:42:34] >> Yeah. I mean yeah they do have a price
[1:42:35] that you can do and they'll just they
[1:42:36] come in they bring everything they set
[1:42:37] it up. They do it all. They run it. They
[1:42:39] matter and they leave.
[1:42:40] >> No, that'd be great because then you
[1:42:41] could you could factor in, okay, we got
[1:42:43] two town meetings. We figure out what is
[1:42:44] the
[1:42:45] >> Yeah, you do two a year and then if you
[1:42:46] have smaller ones, you could not do
[1:42:47] them. But but there's that's going to be
[1:42:49] a more expensive option over the long
[1:42:54] term. Sure. But it also means you always
[1:42:57] have a piece of the newest equipment.
[1:42:59] >> Yeah. Right. What I'd like to do is just
[1:43:04] » I'm just sensitive to the fact that we
[1:43:07] discussed this so many times last year
[1:43:08] and we could never get off the dime.
[1:43:10] >> I will go back and that's not your
[1:43:11] fault.
[1:43:12] >> I'll go back and read the minutes and
[1:43:13] I'll go from there.
[1:43:14] >> Um,
[1:43:16] and let's just figure out the other
[1:43:18] thing that didn't
[1:43:21] >> Thank you. Perfect.
[1:43:21] >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all because I want I
[1:43:25] actually had Becky print out um minutes
[1:43:27] for the last year because I went back
[1:43:28] and I looked to see what we was
[1:43:31] repeating and also not just for this
[1:43:34] topic but multiple topics. Um, but what
[1:43:37] I wanted to do was just point out the
[1:43:39] calendar which is in the packet that if anybody else has any ideas, the
[1:43:47] capital request forms are due November
[1:43:50] 12th and then the operating budget requests are due on December 9th.
[1:43:57] That was the other thing. It just the
[1:44:00] per everyone's busy. I think the person
[1:44:04] just ran out of time and did not so
[1:44:06] nothing ever got discussed and then
[1:44:08] moved forward to the finance committee.
[1:44:10] I will also tell you that there's
[1:44:12] somebody on the finance committee who's
[1:44:14] very very interested in this topic.
[1:44:17] >> Um
[1:44:19] >> I'm sure I'll be hearing from them as
[1:44:20] well after this meeting.
[1:44:22] >> Yes. Well, I'm going to connect the
[1:44:23] dots.
[1:44:24] >> I can guarantee it.
[1:44:25] because it's Lindsay
[1:44:27] McCarthy.
[1:44:28] >> Okay. [laughter]
[1:44:30] >> And she's very interested. We just had a
[1:44:32] discussion the other night. I just went
[1:44:34] through all my notes with her. And so
[1:44:36] then when I saw your email, I'm like
[1:44:38] because you sent it to the whole board,
[1:44:40] I couldn't tell you everything that I
[1:44:41] had already talked about. So anyway, but
[1:44:45] I think we're good. And then um you have
[1:44:47] some citizens who are very interested in
[1:44:49] moving this forward.
[1:44:50] >> They've already reached out to me
[1:44:51] multiple times. So
[1:44:53] >> I've had the same probably the same
[1:44:55] people. Okay, I'm sure.
[1:44:56] >> Okay. Um
[1:44:58] great. Thank you, Shane. I appreciate
[1:45:01] that.
[1:45:02] Okay, we're done with that. Um,
[1:45:05] we're done.
[1:45:05] >> Wanted to do a review of Franklin County
[1:45:08] Technical School building project,
[1:45:11] specifically the cost for Northfield.
[1:45:13] Somebody asked me about that and I said
[1:45:15] I'd put it on the agenda. Um,
[1:45:19] and that's in the packet.
[1:45:22] Do you want to walk us through that? You
[1:45:23] got that from the Franklin County Tech
[1:45:25] School. We talked about this earlier
[1:45:28] this year with with the then
[1:45:30] superintendent,
[1:45:33] >> right? No, I just reached out to the
[1:45:34] business manager.
[1:45:36] >> Okay. She sent back the project cost, what the MSBA is going
[1:45:42] to give, and what the projected final
[1:45:44] financing that then all the towns are
[1:45:45] going to pay. So, I mean, it's a 236.6
[1:45:49] million building.
[1:45:51] Um, MSBA is 113.8 8 million. So that's
[1:45:55] about half.
[1:45:58] And so the projected final estimate for
[1:46:00] the towns uh that are members is 122.8
[1:46:03] million
[1:46:05] >> for the 19 towns that participate
[1:46:07] >> for all of the towns. Correct. The yield
[1:46:09] is 5.52% of that.
[1:46:12] >> Okay.
[1:46:13] >> And this is a 30-year because it ends it ramps up as you do before you do a
[1:46:17] bonding. So they'll some small years and
[1:46:20] then when it gets to that final year
[1:46:22] then it's 30 years from the date you
[1:46:23] bond which they're projecting I think
[1:46:25] their bond is 2031. So it'll run from
[1:46:28] 2031 to 2061. That's the bonding.
[1:46:33] >> So for so for next year so the vote is
[1:46:37] just for the um for the technical school
[1:46:40] to actually borrow. Correct.
[1:46:42] >> Correct. And then um for FY28 the
[1:46:46] projected debt service,
[1:46:48] >> right? Those will be short-term
[1:46:50] >> or shortterm. So that's 12,787.
[1:46:54] Fiscal year 29 it goes up to 191 152.
[1:46:59] 2030 it goes up to 296 685 and then it
[1:47:03] looks like like you said that's when
[1:47:06] bonding occurs.
[1:47:07] >> Correct. looks like you'll peak out
[1:47:09] somewhere around 20 35 and then it stays
[1:47:13] fairly similar for quite a while till it
[1:47:15] starts to fall off
[1:47:17] >> until the 2050s.
[1:47:18] >> Do we know what that does to an average
[1:47:20] tax bill?
[1:47:22] >> Yeah, I mean you can
[1:47:24] >> kind of sort of but um
[1:47:26] >> it's hard to know going up 50 40 year 30
[1:47:29] years because the values all change.
[1:47:31] >> How about going out two years?
[1:47:33] >> Look at the front of the war. I didn't
[1:47:36] bring mine in, but the front of the
[1:47:38] warrant page that tells you how like
[1:47:40] this particular year, how much is
[1:47:43] >> $100,000 was 17 cents on the tax. So
[1:47:48] you'd have to multiply that times a,000
[1:47:50] whatever your valuation valuation 17
[1:47:52] cents per thousand. So if you have
[1:47:54] >> for 100,000 is it
[1:47:56] >> 400. So if this if if you want to say
[1:47:58] let's just take 400,000 because they'll
[1:48:00] hit that in 2031. So if you take 400 I
[1:48:04] mean $400,000
[1:48:15] $68 per thousand. No.
[1:48:20] >> Better not be.
[1:48:22] >> No. No. No. No. No. I did the math. I'm
[1:48:24] just doing the math.
[1:48:24] >> That's a No. [laughter]
[1:48:26] >> No. No. No. No. No. It's um I think it's
[1:48:29] $68 on a on a house for but I got to do
[1:48:33] the valuation. So every
[1:48:36] >> $100,000 let's take a zero out of there.
[1:48:40] 100 if it's in fact
[1:48:46] 17,000*.17.
[1:48:52] So $17 for every 100,000.
[1:48:56] So, if your house is $400,000,
[1:49:01] it'd be $68
[1:49:04] on your bill.
[1:49:05] If you did it this year,
[1:49:07] >> right?
[1:49:08] >> At the peak, you mean
[1:49:10] >> I did 400,000. Yeah. You could add
[1:49:12] another 50 would be half of that. Eight
[1:49:13] 8 cents more. So, yeah.
[1:49:16] >> So,
[1:49:17] >> that has to be project. They should be
[1:49:19] talking about that as far as that for
[1:49:21] education.
[1:49:22] >> I mean, that's how you that's how you
[1:49:24] calculate it. You look at what the
[1:49:27] >> what everything you add to the budget. I
[1:49:28] do it when I when I do the sheet for you
[1:49:30] see 50,000 100,000 and then you just
[1:49:33] take that
[1:49:35] >> amount for every 100,000 you add to the
[1:49:37] tax rate it's x amount of cents.
[1:49:39] >> So then you multiply that times,000 that
[1:49:41] tells you what it is for every 100,000
[1:49:43] 17 cents. So
[1:49:46] >> a th000 valuation
[1:49:48] >> so
[1:49:49] >> up from there
[1:49:52] >> but that's factored into the total
[1:49:54] budget that we correct that we put
[1:49:57] >> right
[1:49:58] >> that we put in front of the town each
[1:50:00] May. So that's an estimate and you're
[1:50:03] basing it on the figures that kick in.
[1:50:06] >> You're basing it on the tax rate and the
[1:50:09] in an average house this year. The
[1:50:12] biggest amount kicks in in 2031. So
[1:50:15] potentially it could be
[1:50:17] >> actually 2035,
[1:50:19] >> right?
[1:50:20] >> 2035 is your big number.
[1:50:23] >> 448547.
[1:50:24] >> The year 2035.
[1:50:26] >> Yes, correct.
[1:50:28] >> I won't be around to worry about it.
[1:50:32] >> Well, there's that. [laughter]
[1:50:34] >> Oh god.
[1:50:34] >> I'll be dead. But um
[1:50:37] >> your estate will still be taxed.
[1:50:39] >> Yeah, I'll still be paying Does that
[1:50:43] I just wanted to make sure we got that
[1:50:45] out there for the vote and the vote is
[1:50:47] on the borrow not on the amount
[1:50:49] >> it is.
[1:50:51] >> Right. But either way,
[1:50:54] >> if this is for a new building, if they
[1:50:57] come back for just renovations on the
[1:51:00] existing old building, we would have a
[1:51:03] similar proposal because they're
[1:51:06] actually getting
[1:51:08] money
[1:51:08] >> about 50%.
[1:51:10] >> Right. That brings this back down into
[1:51:12] the same ballpark as renovating the
[1:51:16] building. So, you end up paying either
[1:51:18] way.
[1:51:20] >> We ran into this when we did the high
[1:51:22] school.
[1:51:23] >> The high school was needed needing to be
[1:51:25] replaced. We not replaced, but there was
[1:51:28] damage in that. It was going to cost the
[1:51:29] town out of pocket $5 million.
[1:51:34] >> But the state came and again, the state
[1:51:36] is not going to reimburse that. So
[1:51:38] you're uh and I'm not sure if this if
[1:51:40] they reimburse some of it or all of it.
[1:51:42] That would be a question. It says right
[1:51:44] there.
[1:51:45] >> But if if you don't build the building,
[1:51:47] if you just renovate,
[1:51:50] >> you don't get the reimburse.
[1:51:51] >> That's correct. So if the renovations
[1:51:53] >> Well, you can get some renovations
[1:51:55] through MSBA, but it's not the same.
[1:51:57] They do certain projects, windows,
[1:51:59] doors, roofs. So, if this if this
[1:52:01] doesn't pass, then they'd go to option
[1:52:04] B, which would be to uh take what they
[1:52:07] have existing and and try to correct
[1:52:09] some of the problems. And that's going
[1:52:10] to be in the hundreds of millions of
[1:52:13] dollars also.
[1:52:14] >> Yeah.
[1:52:15] >> You're going to end up paying the same
[1:52:18] and getting less. And this is exactly
[1:52:20] why when uh the renovations to Pioneer
[1:52:23] came about and at that time, the state
[1:52:26] kicked in a heck of a lot more than they
[1:52:28] are now. They they did 70 70 something
[1:52:31] percent of it. Uh if they didn't do that
[1:52:35] and we just renovated, it would cost the
[1:52:37] taxpayers exactly the same amount of
[1:52:38] money or more.
[1:52:41] Does anybody know
[1:52:44] on this new build is the demolition of
[1:52:48] the old building included in that price
[1:52:50] tag?
[1:52:50] >> Correct.
[1:52:51] >> Once ultimately yes. Yeah, they went
[1:52:55] Yeah, I went through he
[1:52:56] >> I thought it was. I just wanted to make
[1:52:58] sure
[1:52:58] >> what they don't cover some of the things
[1:53:00] they they don't cover. They don't cover
[1:53:02] part of the things like uh
[1:53:04] >> how about we um he did a whole thing
[1:53:07] >> presentation.
[1:53:08] >> How about we find the YouTube video and
[1:53:12] I work with Becky on getting that
[1:53:14] explained the whole thing.
[1:53:16] >> It does.
[1:53:16] >> And we're trying to Right.
[1:53:18] >> It does.
[1:53:19] >> So all people for tonight need to do is
[1:53:22] to take a basic if you have a $400,000
[1:53:25] house
[1:53:26] >> Yep. somewhere in 3035. We're assuming
[1:53:29] it will be using today's figures, we're
[1:53:31] assuming it will be approximately $68 a
[1:53:35] year on your tax bill.
[1:53:38] >> Yeah.
[1:53:39] >> But that's just taking a $400,000 house.
[1:53:42] >> But if it might help people to
[1:53:44] understand what was the explanation
[1:53:47] behind it so that you know because
[1:53:49] either way we end up paying we've always
[1:53:52] had capital costs that we pay into. This
[1:53:55] is not a a new thing to be paying money
[1:53:58] into Franklin County Tech. So, would it
[1:54:01] be help? I'm just saying. Would it be
[1:54:02] helpful if we got that YouTube and stuck
[1:54:04] that up on the website? It just
[1:54:06] basically explains everything.
[1:54:08] >> Didn't the thing have tears
[1:54:10] >> when the one he presented to us
[1:54:12] different
[1:54:12] >> originally. Then they had to do a vote.
[1:54:14] There's a lot on their website.
[1:54:16] >> They did. Okay,
[1:54:17] >> if you go to their website, there's a
[1:54:18] tab that talks about this project and it
[1:54:22] >> all of this stuff is on there, including
[1:54:25] >> different breakdowns in the project.
[1:54:27] There's a lot on their website, too. But
[1:54:29] we could certainly look for that. I'm
[1:54:30] not Would it have to be from our select
[1:54:32] board meeting? You could go to our
[1:54:33] select board meeting if we found the
[1:54:35] date. You can go to the BNC website and
[1:54:37] find
[1:54:39] >> uh I don't know if it was a joint, but
[1:54:40] it was with the finance committee for
[1:54:41] sure.
[1:54:42] >> I was back. Yeah,
[1:54:43] >> I think it was a joint. It was
[1:54:44] >> if we did that date, you can actually
[1:54:46] pull up that recording. It
[1:54:47] >> It's just helpful because he explained
[1:54:49] the Northfield figures in particular.
[1:54:51] >> I remember when that was.
[1:54:53] >> We It's in the minutes.
[1:54:54] >> It was before Shane.
[1:54:56] >> Pre-Shane.
[1:54:58] >> BS.
[1:54:58] >> Yes. Before Shane.
[1:54:59] >> I like BS.
[1:55:01] >> Oh, that's a good one. I use it all the
[1:55:03] time. [laughter]
[1:55:04] >> Oh, no. Okay, let's do let's try and
[1:55:08] we've Okay. Uh, Finicky Farm LLC
[1:55:12] nuisance dog court findings and order.
[1:55:16] So, every
[1:55:19] one has the court findings that we got a
[1:55:22] couple of weeks ago and we are waiting
[1:55:24] for the appeal period to be done before
[1:55:27] discussing it publicly.
[1:55:32] Did everyone have a chance to review?
[1:55:37] And then I I did do a quick down and
[1:55:39] dirty summary so that you could kind of
[1:55:43] >> I just pulled the point straight off the
[1:55:46] um magistrate's findings.
[1:55:49] >> I thought it would be helpful. Do you
[1:55:51] want to review the findings out loud or
[1:55:53] did you have questions about them?
[1:55:57] >> People are asking what's happening.
[1:56:01] Um, you know,
[1:56:03] >> basically I said if you watch the old wy
[1:56:05] coyote roadrunner cartoons, you you know
[1:56:08] what's going on
[1:56:10] with this. It's it's kind of laughable
[1:56:14] this all this to try to catch that dog.
[1:56:16] But yeah, I think they want to know
[1:56:17] what's going on. I really do.
[1:56:20] >> Okay, let's walk through it then.
[1:56:21] >> Yeah.
[1:56:22] >> Um, and I have been I reached out to the
[1:56:26] neighbors as well. So everyone was
[1:56:28] waiting
[1:56:29] patiently,
[1:56:31] expectantly for these findings. So um
[1:56:35] what we got was a five-page document.
[1:56:37] The first four pages are basically
[1:56:40] recounting everything that people can go
[1:56:42] back and watch at the dog hearing. Those
[1:56:44] are all summarized because we had to
[1:56:46] repeat all of that at the court appeal.
[1:56:49] Um and I took part in that appeal
[1:56:52] process. The court's conclusion which is
[1:56:55] one basically one page is that
[1:57:01] the petitioner who is the farm
[1:57:06] he find it he found
[1:57:10] that there were two parts of the select
[1:57:12] board's order that he didn't agree with
[1:57:15] for the farm. One had to do with
[1:57:17] ordering the
[1:57:19] um farm to actually
[1:57:23] use a tracking tranquilizer dart. The
[1:57:27] second thing was that there was no
[1:57:29] evidence to support that the animal
[1:57:31] control officer has the necessary
[1:57:33] training or experience to pass judgment
[1:57:35] in terms of the the portion of the order
[1:57:38] that we uh required training. And I
[1:57:42] talked to the animal control officer
[1:57:44] yesterday and he said that kind of makes
[1:57:46] sense to him because he doesn't have a
[1:57:48] behavioral certification or anything
[1:57:51] like that. So those two things were
[1:57:55] found for the farm.
[1:57:59] What
[1:58:00] the um what the court did say is that
[1:58:04] the town acted
[1:58:08] the board's determination that Anna is a
[1:58:10] nuisance dog was proper. Um
[1:58:15] » he said without any doubt that you're
[1:58:18] determined
[1:58:18] >> correct and equated to a finding that
[1:58:21] there existed a significant quote
[1:58:23] unquote a significant health and safety
[1:58:25] concern.
[1:58:28] Um
[1:58:35] so then the court orders as follows. The
[1:58:38] owner, meaning the farm, shall forth
[1:58:40] with make a sincere and diligent effort
[1:58:42] to capture Anna and shall on the first
[1:58:45] of each month provide the select board
[1:58:46] with a written report of any and all
[1:58:49] efforts it is made to capture Anna,
[1:58:52] including specifying dates of efforts,
[1:58:55] specific efforts made, and time
[1:58:57] committed for each effort to capture.
[1:59:01] And if the Anna is captured by owner or
[1:59:05] any other party, it he shall contact the
[1:59:10] select board and the Northfield Police
[1:59:11] Department immediately.
[1:59:14] And and I'm putting emphasis on the and
[1:59:16] because this is a multi-art. Once
[1:59:18] captured, Anna shall be turned over by
[1:59:21] the owner or any other party in
[1:59:24] possession of her to the town of
[1:59:26] Northfield to be held spayed and
[1:59:27] vaccinated. The cost to spay and
[1:59:30] vaccinate Anna shall be assessed to the
[1:59:32] owner and simultaneously
[1:59:36] the town of Northfield may make
[1:59:39] reasonable efforts to capture Anna and
[1:59:42] that's what
[1:59:44] we and other people were looking for was
[1:59:47] what is the town's right to do. So
[1:59:51] that's been upheld. Upon capture of
[1:59:53] Anna, the town of Northfield
[1:59:57] shall contact the court to conduct a
[2:00:00] prompt hearing. So this means we would
[2:00:02] have to go once Anna is captured, we
[2:00:04] would have to go back to the court with
[2:00:06] the owner, meaning the farm,
[2:00:09] and the court will set any and all
[2:00:13] necessary future conditions to
[2:00:15] adequately quote unquote ameliate the
[2:00:17] nuisance behavior end quote.
[2:00:21] The town of Northfield, this includes
[2:00:24] the select board/an animal control
[2:00:26] officer, may take
[2:00:30] any and all action to capture Anna with
[2:00:33] owner responsible for all costs incurred
[2:00:35] by the town and may take any and all
[2:00:38] other legal action, criminal or civil,
[2:00:42] that may be applicable to these facts
[2:00:44] and circumstances. this magistrate shall
[2:00:47] retain personal jurisdiction over said
[2:00:49] matter.
[2:00:51] >> So it's clear what the town can do. It's
[2:00:54] also clear what the um firm
[2:00:58] should be doing should have had done
[2:01:00] already.
[2:01:02] And um we can't order them to actually
[2:01:06] tranquilize
[2:01:08] her.
[2:01:09] Um and we can't order them if they do we
[2:01:12] can't order them to get the dog
[2:01:14] training. But everything else allows the
[2:01:17] town to
[2:01:20] [snorts]
[2:01:21] make our own efforts and charge for said
[2:01:24] efforts and then we have to circle back
[2:01:26] to the court.
[2:01:35] » Okay.
[2:01:36] >> Yeah.
[2:01:36] >> Anything?
[2:01:41] » Um I will say that I have spoken to each
[2:01:43] and every neighbor. I've kept them
[2:01:45] updated at different points. Um, and
[2:01:49] people who submitted the complaint, for
[2:01:50] example,
[2:01:53] and I've um they know about this meeting
[2:01:57] and they know about the review of the
[2:01:59] they know about the findings
[2:02:04] » as does the animal control officer.
[2:02:07] >> [snorts]
[2:02:09] >> So, I thought it'd be helpful if we
[2:02:10] reviewed it so everybody knows that the
[2:02:13] findings are back and that the town may
[2:02:15] take any and all action to capture Anna.
[2:02:19] I'm assuming based on social media posts
[2:02:21] that [snorts] the farm continues to make
[2:02:23] their own efforts. Um and as of October
[2:02:27] 1st
[2:02:29] um they will have to submit since this
[2:02:32] was dated September
[2:02:36] [snorts]
[2:02:37] dated September 1st
[2:02:39] very last page.
[2:02:41] >> Yeah. But we didn't get it on September
[2:02:42] 1st. So, um I'm assuming the farm will
[2:02:46] need to will need to supply
[2:02:49] their report uh on October 1st which is
[2:02:53] coming up tomorrow
[2:02:55] >> and it should have details in it per the
[2:02:58] order.
[2:03:02] » Best we can do right now.
[2:03:04] >> Any questions for the lawyer
[2:03:09] or
[2:03:13] I'm looking at their plan trap here. So
[2:03:16] hopefully that will work.
[2:03:18] >> They're going to enclose it and I we'll
[2:03:20] see. They're supposed to have it some
[2:03:22] result by the 1st of October. So we'll
[2:03:24] see what how that works.
[2:03:26] >> When's October 1st? Tomorrow.
[2:03:27] >> Tomorrow.
[2:03:28] >> Day after day.
[2:03:30] >> Today the 29th.
[2:03:32] >> Oh, I guess tomorrow Friday.
[2:03:34] >> Tomorrow's the 30th day after.
[2:03:37] >> I have no comment on that document.
[2:03:41] Okay.
[2:03:43] Um, anything else on that?
[2:03:46] >> No. Nope.
[2:03:47] >> It's been a fun night of topics, you
[2:03:51] guys. Okay. Um, highway surplus
[2:03:54] equipment. We're going to declare.
[2:03:58] Should have done that when Tom was here.
[2:04:00] Darn it. Just for the fun. We're um So,
[2:04:04] Tom gave us a list. includes a chip box,
[2:04:08] tire rims, a snow pusher,
[2:04:11] a 2012 John Deere
[2:04:13] >> mower.
[2:04:14] >> Oh, look at that. What was it town hall?
[2:04:17] >> Uh, don't think it's back out of
[2:04:19] >> a 2012. [laughter]
[2:04:22] » Probably huge. Uh, a sander body and a
[2:04:26] what is a
[2:04:29] >> PA? It's a PA, but what is something low
[2:04:33] P? I don't know.
[2:04:35] Okay. Low hot paver.
[2:04:40] » Okay. I'll entertain a motion to approve
[2:04:43] said um surplus equipment list.
[2:04:46] >> So move.
[2:04:46] >> Second.
[2:04:47] >> All those in favor?
[2:04:48] >> I.
[2:04:49] So um just for those who don't know
[2:04:52] that Tom and other departments because
[2:04:54] we have another surplus um when they
[2:04:56] have equipment that's old um if we
[2:04:59] declared a surplus then they can sell
[2:05:02] it, auction it off, give it away. So,
[2:05:05] okay. So, we're going to do the same
[2:05:06] thing. We have a surplus police
[2:05:08] department vehicle. Uh, it is a 2009 GMC
[2:05:14] Acadia. No longer needed by the police
[2:05:16] department. We got it for free and it
[2:05:19] has little to no value. Basically scrap
[2:05:21] for the police chief. I'll entertain a
[2:05:23] motion to declare said [snorts] vehicle
[2:05:25] as surplus.
[2:05:26] >> So, move.
[2:05:27] >> Second.
[2:05:28] >> All those in favor?
[2:05:29] >> I. Great. Okay.
[2:05:32] All right. Uh,
[2:05:36] committee board appointments, election
[2:05:38] officers, terms ending August 15, 2027.
[2:05:44] Normally, we do these as one big
[2:05:48] I'm going to entertain a motion to
[2:05:51] approve
[2:05:54] Lynn Hansel. I'm gonna split this. Lynn
[2:05:57] Hansel and Pamela Ve as election
[2:05:59] officers. terms ending August 15, 2027.
[2:06:03] >> So moved.
[2:06:04] >> Second.
[2:06:06] >> All those in favor?
[2:06:07] >> I I Okay, great. And then I'm going to
[2:06:10] entertain a motion to appoint Karen
[2:06:14] Budro as an election officer term ending
[2:06:17] August 15, 2027.
[2:06:20] >> So moved.
[2:06:21] >> Second.
[2:06:22] >> All those in favor?
[2:06:25] I
[2:06:26] >> I need to abstain or
[2:06:30] >> That's what I'm thinking.
[2:06:31] >> Abstain. Yeah.
[2:06:32] >> Yeah. [clears throat] Okay.
[2:06:33] >> So, there is a question of an [snorts]
[2:06:36] elected official serving as a um
[2:06:39] election officer.
[2:06:41] >> You may want to check with the state on
[2:06:43] that.
[2:06:44] >> But she's done all that.
[2:06:45] >> She's done it. She's got it. She's got
[2:06:46] >> She's done all the checking. Okay.
[2:06:49] >> Spoken to them about who can serve and
[2:06:51] when they can serve.
[2:06:52] >> Okay.
[2:06:52] Good.
[2:06:53] >> All right. And then I'll entertain a
[2:06:56] motion to appoint Lindseay McCarthy as
[2:06:58] an election officer term ending August
[2:07:01] 15, 2027.
[2:07:04] >> Second
[2:07:07] [laughter]
[2:07:08] took me. He was quicker than I was.
[2:07:11] >> All those in favor?
[2:07:13] >> I I
[2:07:14] >> abstein.
[2:07:15] >> Dave [snorts] McCarthy absteines.
[2:07:17] >> We got a couple announcements quickly.
[2:07:20] >> Yes. Announcements. weekly office hours
[2:07:21] for emergency medical services building
[2:07:24] project with owner's project manager
[2:07:26] every Wednesday September
[2:07:29] starting September 9th uh is from 3 to 6
[2:07:34] October 6th are the um two elections one
[2:07:38] for the
[2:07:42] great river school district also known
[2:07:45] as the sixth town that's one election
[2:07:48] and then the second election is for what
[2:07:50] we had just talked about with the
[2:07:51] Franklin County Technical School um
[2:07:56] debt vote. So that's October 6th. And
[2:08:00] then Northfield aggregation,
[2:08:03] just so folks know, the Colonial Power
[2:08:05] Eversource mailings were sent out
[2:08:07] [snorts] starting September 15th.
[2:08:10] Consumer notification letters and opt
[2:08:13] out cards are are sent to anyone in
[2:08:15] Northfield who is on basic service but
[2:08:18] hasn't already been mailed to. So it
[2:08:20] will look like
[2:08:22] this packet
[2:08:24] basically.
[2:08:26] I don't know if you can really you can't
[2:08:28] really see that.
[2:08:29] >> Mhm. Um,
[2:08:33] the mailing informs residents about the
[2:08:36] town's program and allows them a 30-day
[2:08:39] opt out period before being
[2:08:41] automatically enrolled. And Becky, do
[2:08:44] you have this on the website as well?
[2:08:48] >> I can't.
[2:08:49] >> I thought we did. I thought we put
[2:08:51] something on
[2:08:51] >> I thought you put something on the
[2:08:53] website. All right, we'll double check.
[2:08:54] >> I think we put something about the
[2:08:55] aggregation
[2:08:56] >> electrical option.
[2:08:58] Yeah, there is something. Okay.
[2:09:01] Uh recognition for service.
[2:09:03] >> I have two more than
[2:09:05] >> Okay.
[2:09:06] Um just uh events going on this
[2:09:09] week. The uh senior center is having a
[2:09:12] hot rod cruise night.
[2:09:14] >> Yeah.
[2:09:15] >> Thursday at the golf course. Um that's
[2:09:18] from 4 to 7.
[2:09:20] >> Okay.
[2:09:21] And then reminder, the Great River
[2:09:24] Challenge
[2:09:25] >> Oh yeah. Thank you.
[2:09:26] >> is Saturday. I think that's what
[2:09:28] >> October 3rd.
[2:09:31] >> Noon to 3, I believe.
[2:09:33] >> I think it starts earlier than that.
[2:09:34] >> Starts early in the morning.
[2:09:36] >> Yeah. Yeah. Starts early. Yeah. But it's
[2:09:37] this week. It's on the website. So Okay.
[2:09:41] >> Yeah. Um Okay. And then
[2:09:45] in terms of other announcements, if
[2:09:47] people want to send those into us, we
[2:09:49] talked about doing that like for the
[2:09:50] monster dash and everything. Um, if it
[2:09:53] makes sense, we can always move those to
[2:09:55] the beginning of the meeting. Kind of
[2:09:56] get them out of the way. So, we're doing
[2:09:58] more
[2:09:59] happy communication at the beginning.
[2:10:01] Um, recognition for service.
[2:10:04] >> Yeah.
[2:10:06] you were right. I just got a quick
[2:10:09] text. It said 9 in the morning.
[2:10:11] >> Yeah.
[2:10:12] >> You got to get out.
[2:10:12] >> Oh, that was quick.
[2:10:13] >> There's a lot to You got three sports
[2:10:16] you got to do. Um, I would check
[2:10:18] Facebook and I would check the
[2:10:19] recreation uh commission's web page and
[2:10:21] also the Great River Challenge has its
[2:10:24] own web page and um
[2:10:26] >> they're connected.
[2:10:28] >> Okay. Uh, recognition for service. I
[2:10:30] would just say thanks to everybody who
[2:10:32] helped out with um, Skip's retirement
[2:10:34] celebration. There were quite a few
[2:10:36] volunteers who came out, set up and
[2:10:39] helped the fire department. The fire
[2:10:40] department did a great job like getting
[2:10:42] the food. Um, but police like, uh, John
[2:10:47] Hall, Amanda Hall,
[2:10:50] Joanne Gardner, Tammy Pelliter, um,
[2:10:53] Stacy Bond, there was a bunch of people
[2:10:55] actually helped set everything up for
[2:10:57] them.
[2:10:57] >> There's a lot of We were there at 9:00
[2:10:58] in the morning cutting and dicing and
[2:11:01] >> everything up and we went the day before
[2:11:03] and bought all the materials.
[2:11:04] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's Yeah, we
[2:11:06] did a did a lot of work and a lot of uh,
[2:11:08] community members showed up to help cut
[2:11:10] >> and prep all the food as well. So,
[2:11:12] >> yeah. So, I just want to give a shout
[2:11:13] out to that whole group effort. I
[2:11:15] thought it was a lovely um Skip was
[2:11:17] really really touched. Um and happy
[2:11:20] anniversary.
[2:11:21] >> Skip didn't have anything to do with it.
[2:11:23] Make sure he wasn't involved at all. He
[2:11:25] was showing up and having a good time.
[2:11:26] [snorts]
[2:11:26] >> Although he did get to do a good speech.
[2:11:29] That was great. Um and thanks also to um
[2:11:32] Senator CR for coming to Northfield. She
[2:11:35] really enjoyed it and um I made sure she
[2:11:37] met um fire as many people as possible
[2:11:41] in a short period of time.
[2:11:43] >> Okay. Motion to adjurnn.
[2:11:45] >> So moved.
[2:11:47] [laughter]
[2:11:48] >> You beat me again.
[2:11:50] >> Most popular motion of the night.
[2:11:51] >> Oh, for you.
[2:11:52] >> Thank you.
[2:11:53] >> We haven't voted though.
[2:11:54] >> All those in favor? I
[2:11:55] >> I thank you everybody. I
[2:11:57] >> Thank you. I think
[2:11:58] >> she sent you a email. Thank you, Tyler.
[2:12:01] Oh, I should have