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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to this special council meeting.

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I'm warden Brian Austrander. And I'll call this. Before I

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call this meeting to order, I'll ask that everyone please

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silence cell phones and other electronic devices and keep them

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away from microphones to avoid interference for those attending today's.

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Meeting. Please note the video recording is in progress. And

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also note that. Live auto captioning is enabled on the

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live stream for all council meetings in order to support

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the implementation. Please speak clearly and directly into your microphones.

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I'll call the special meeting of the Northumberland County Council

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to order. At 02:34 p.m. On March 6, 2024. I

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can see that Deputy Warden Henkifsky is here and that

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councilors Cleveland crate. Jib local and Martin are also here

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and present in the chamber. And I will also recognize

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that. I believe Koberg councilor Bureau is joining us. Virtually

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on zoom. Are there any questions of members of county

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council before we begin? I would like to formally recognize

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the traditional keepers of this land and specifically our neighbors

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of the Alderville First Nation with a formal territorial acknowledgment.

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We respectfully acknowledge Northumberland county is located on the Mississauga

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Anushnabic territory. And is a traditional territory of the Mississauga.

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Northumberland county respectfully acknowledges that the Mississauga nations are the

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collective stewards and caretakers of these lands and waters. In

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perpetuity and that they continue to maintain this responsibility to

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ensure their health and integrity for generations. To come. The

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agenda is before us. And the motion reads that the

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special county council agenda for Wednesday, March 6, 2024 be

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approved? Is there a mover? Depie, warden, seconded by councilor

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Logel. Is there any discussion? Those in favor? Any opposed?

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Motions carried. Members of council, do you have any declarations

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of pecuniary interest, and if so, please state the general

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nature thereof. There are no noted. We have no

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presentations. We have no minutes to adopt. There's no business

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arising. There is. No communications before us. There is no

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determination of items requiring separate discussion. There is no adoption

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of items requiring separate discussion. There's no consideration of. Items

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requiring separate discussion, and there are no bylaws to enact

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before we head into the new business that's before us.

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I'd like to note that we are gathered this afternoon

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to address topics. Of great significance and complexity. The purchase

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and purpose of 310 Division street in Coburg and the

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urgent need to find a solution for unhoused residents. I'm

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abundantly aware that this is a matter that stirs passions,

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reawakens. Traumas and raises valid concerns and fears within the

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community. It is therefore imperative that we approach. This discussion

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with a commitment to collaboration, partnerships, and, of course, mutual

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respect for our colleagues, the staff. At both county and

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the town and the residents whom we serve. I recognize

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that this is a topic with many considerations. It's not

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just about the physical. Space, but about the lives it

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will impact, both the residents living with homelessness and the

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neighbors. And the values that tackling the homelessness issue represents.

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It's about fostering a community that prioritizes compassion, dignity and

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inclusivity. For all its members, while also holding true to

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the tenets of safety, security, and pride of place. This

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chamber is a place where we come to exchange diverse

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perspectives. We do so with civility and respect, with a

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commitment to human rights in the language we use and

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the approaches we take, and with the aim to find

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that common ground and find the best path forward. On

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behalf of the residents of Northumberland County. We all speak

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about being collaborators and good partners. So today I trust

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that we will put those words into action and find

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the best way forward on this complex issue. So move

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to new business. The town of Coberg's emergency care establishment,

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licensing bylaw. And potential impacts to homelessness system. This is

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a presentation. It will be provided by CAO Moore and

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associate director Carmen and I will turn the floor over.

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To the Cao. Keeping in mind, we're going to keep

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this high level, right? Yes. Thank you, warden. So with

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that in mind, As you said, it's a very complex

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issue with many facets to it. So we will try

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to keep it as brief as possible while still hitting

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on the salient points as we go through the conversation

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today? I won't dwell with a lot of remarks. I

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will turn it over to. Rebecca. Carmen. She will go

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through a presentation that is going to speak to what's

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happened. Up to today's date and what's got us to

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this point. Some of the potential impacts of the recent

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developments with respect to this, but also acknowledging that this

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is a very complex issue, and today's conversation will be

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focused on the 310 Division street. Facility. Along with the

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town of Cobra bylaw, there are many. Other issues going

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on in our broader community, but we will focus the

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presentation on just that topic. So with that, I'll turn

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it over to Rebecca. For the open portion of the

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presentation. Thank you, Jennifer. Okay. As Jennifer said, I am

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here today to talk about both the impacts of the

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town of Koberg's. Emergency care establishment licensing bylaw. As well

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as the impacts it has on 310 and the overall

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shelter system here in Northumberland on this slide, I outline

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the agenda that we will be working through today. To

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start, just as a reminder that Northumberland county is the

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designated service manager for the province in the delivery of

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housing and homelessness services along with other social services program,

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and this is governed by provincial legislation, particularly the Housing

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Services Act 2011. We are delegated by the province. To

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create ten year housing and homelessness plans that are updated

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every five years. These are approved through county council and

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then submitted to the province. We also fund local homelessness

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and housing systems. Through both levy funding as well as

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flow flu funding from the provincial and federal government. If

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we look at homelessness in Northumberland county, our current by

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name list shows that there are 94. Individuals experiencing homelessness

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and on the by name list in Northumberland county as

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of February 29, as a reminder. The purpose of our

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by name list is that we know people by name.

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We know their unique circumstances, and we are working with

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a collaborative group of agencies to support people with wraparound.

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Services to meet their housing goals. When we look at

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the breakdown of that by name list, we have 85

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individuals who have identified their household type as single. Six

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are single with children under the age of 18, and

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that doesn't include the children. That's the single person and

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three identifying as being part of a family. When we

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look at the monthly by name list. Over the past,

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it's ranged from the lowest around 60 and the highest

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around that 95. With the average being approximately 76. It's

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very common. By name lists and our homeless discount to

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fluctuate up and down with people coming into our homelessness

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system and people coming out of the homelessness system. The

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buy name list is consent based, so we also know

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and are working with people who are not on the

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by name list, but are experiencing homelessness. We also know

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that our homelessness stats on a monthly basis have been

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relatively stable, and as I said, those fluctuating numbers. Are

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very common. When we look at why someone our chronic

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homelessness number, we do have over 90% of our by

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nameless experiencing chronic homelessness. That means that these individuals are

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currently experiencing homelessness. And have a total of at least

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six months or more of homelessness over the past year.

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There are many reasons why someone. May have a status

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of chronic homelessness. This might include life events, things like

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the pandemic. Things like a death. As a close person,

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close family member, local emergencies, job loss, availability of support

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services, and also stigma. In the community. This includes what

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folks think it means to be homelessness. A homeless, a

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tie. To crime, a crime to a tie, to drug

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use. And it's very hard for someone. Who is homeless

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to find a landlord willing to rent to them. Despite

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that being a protected ground under the human rights code,

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our goal in the homelessness sector is to achieve what

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we call functional zero. That means that as many people

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who are coming into the system of homelessness match those

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who are coming out of homelessness, so homelessness will always

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be a part of our community. But working to create

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supports and places for people to go that match the

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need in our community. When we look at what we've

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been able to achieve since January 2022, 60 folks have

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been housed off of the by name list, and this

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year alone, between January and February 5 household. Five households

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have been housed from the byname list. In addition, we've

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also been able to support 62 households transition from homelessness

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to housing. Through shelter benefits. This would extend beyond those

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on the by name list as well. With our new

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housing stability program funded through the housing homelessness prevention program.

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We've supported 16 people. Experiencing homelessness achieve a permanent housing.

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Since April 2023. We have also funded additional outreach workers

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in our community, and we know that homelessness reaches all

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corners of our community, and we have specifically an outreach

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funded position that supports the eastern municipalities who are in

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the eastern municipalities of Northumberland. Providing services. And supporting people

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finding housing in those areas. When we think about what

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homeless services are. We're one part of a broad system

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of supports that are needed to support individuals who are

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struggling and vulnerable in our community, and this includes financial

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assistance through OW and ODSP. Health care, including mental health

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and substance use and the justice system. These are all

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interconnected systems. That we are a partner of and work

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alongside agencies in this area. When we look at the

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current state of sheltering in Northumberland, this slide walks through

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the various shelter options that are available in North Amberlyn

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county today. We have transition house has 22 shelter beds.

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Our overflow motel program has 15 beds. Family diversion. Can

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support up to four families. The warming hub supports up

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to 20 individuals at a time. We also have ad

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hoc, county funded motel beds that are available as needed

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that support situational homelessness and we have cornerst. Cornerstone Family

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Violence Prevention center that supports 15 women plus children. And

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this is just one piece of our homelessness response. When

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we look at who in north arm, Berlin is supported

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by our shelter system. These include both families and individuals.

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These include people who are experiencing homelessness or are at

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risk of experiencing homelessness those seeking emergency accommodations, people fleeing

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family violence and people fleeing human trafficking. People can be

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impacted by lack of aff. Affordable housing. Our rental crisis.

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Their inability to pay rent and mortgage due to financial

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means in their current affordable housing crisis. Illness, personal crisis,

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relationship separation, a job loss, reduced hours of work, substance

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use and closure or removal. Of rental units. So rental

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units can be temporarily or permanently removed from the system

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through fire code. Built in code, a sale of property

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by landlord or other reasons. When we think about how

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shelter providers support individual they provide. They support individuals through

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the provision of safe and secure temporary accommodation. 24 hours

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support for residents and case management. This slide walks through

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some of those key elements of case management that takes

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place in our sheltering services. At the bottom of the

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slide. There is. A graphic that shows all the various

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kinds of services that are available in our community that

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we work with folks who are experiencing housing and security

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and homelessness, which includes diversion, which means that if someone's

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coming into the shelter system. The first thing the shelter

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system will ask is there somewhere you can go? And

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if they need to go somewhere else, we can help

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facilitate that travel or that transition there. And are working

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towards increasing our drop in services so that 24/7 there

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will be somewhere for someone to go who needs a

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safe place to stay. We have. Our standard emergency shelters.

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That's through transition house, and we also have cornerstone providing

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that family violence specific shelter, transitional housing, which we're looking

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to increase as well at 310 division and our exit

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to permanent housing, which we have seen through our various

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rental subsidy programs that we've. Been increasing over time. Really

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the point here is that each one of these pieces

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is a single puzzle piece in a big puzzle, and

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we're working to put them all together at the same

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time. Sorry, the clicker is not. Thanks, Cheryl. We also

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wanted to highlight some common shelter best practices that we've

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seen and that we see throughout Ontario. So it does

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include a staff to client ratio. It does include the

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shelters operate as a low barrier. And low barrier means

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that we improve access to shelter services by lowering barriers.

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To entries such as sobriety requirements. Income requirements, space for

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couple, space for pets. And accessibility features. Low barrier does

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not mean no rules. There are rules at shelters which

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include theft violence and the use of drugs or alcohol

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substances on site. Those are some of the rules that

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shelters will often have. We also see best practices being

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in private and semi private room configurations and ensuring that

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there are supports available on site, which include wraparound services,

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individualized housing plan and diversion. Really focusing on that housing

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support that people need while they're in shelter. Next slide,

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please. We also see that. Shelters have established understanding of

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clients rights and responsibilities. Sometimes this comes in the form

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of a code of conduct, other times it doesn't. For

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example, Cornerstone Family Violence Prevention center, which is often referenced

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as a best practice in our community, does not have

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a code of conduct. They have documents that lay out

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the rules through resident handbooks. And documents that outline client

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rights and shelter provider responsibilities. And in these case, Cases.

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None of those code of conduct or rights and responsibilities

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extend beyond the four walls of the shelter. We also

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see standardized staff training, and we also see that from

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time to time, trained staff are often more effective than

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security. We have to recognize that staff need training and

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mental health and deescalation. But we also acknowledge. That security

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does bring peace of mind to the neighborhood, to potentially

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shelter workers, and to some residents. But it can also

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be very triggering and traumatizing for folks who have had

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poor experiences. In the past. With law enforcement or other

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measures. Next slide, please. When we look at what we've

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done so far in 2023, we have been making progress

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on improving the homelessness system, but it is definitely an

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uphill battle. But some of the things that we've seen

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so far is that we did provide. Almost 1100 shelter

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and housing benefits to people who are homeless or at

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risk of homelessness with our shelter partners. We capped 133

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emergency shelter users safe and 119 warming room users safe.

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We've added two new street outreach positions to our community.

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And invested $2.3 million into homelessness in Northumberland, of which

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1.7 million was allocated specifically to emergency shelter support. Getting

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now specifically into 310. The next couple of slides have

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a lot of dates on them and this walks us

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through the timeline that we've gone through today. So we

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start with June 2023, where we had the ViNc report

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released on the sheltering. System, which made recommendations which we

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knew for a long time that we needed to find

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a new, modernized shelter service location for our community. On

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November 15, county council provided direction to staff. For us

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to proceed with purchasing 310 division for the purpose of

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a modernized shelter. December 4. We introduced this purchase through

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a media release web page, frequently asked questions and various

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other means. And on December 6, we held a special

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county council meeting introducing the purchase to public and hearing

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from community delegations. That same day, the MoU was signed

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between the county and transition house as directed by county

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council. On December 8, the transaction closed. 310 was now

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formally owned by the county. And since December, Transition House

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has been undertaking site preparation and operational planning for the

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relocation of these services. Since January 10 through to February

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23, we've engaged the public service providers and most importantly,

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shelter users to understand their needs and expectations for the

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location. Since January 23, we've also been planning for operational

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launch and a legal agreement between the county and transition

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house, and we've been working with legal counsel since the.

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23 January. To work towards drafting that agreement. In February

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2, we met with transition house executives to discuss the

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terms we expected to see in a legally binding agreement.

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On February 14, county staff met with the town staff

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town of Coberg staff who shared high level themes of

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what was expected. In an agreement, and on February 29,

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we submitted a grant application to the Ontario trillion fund

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for support at 310 Division. Coming forward. We anticipate that

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the community engagement results will be shared on March 20

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with county council, and either in March or April, we

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are working towards being able to present that agreement. Between

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the county and transition house to county council. When we

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think of what we've heard so far at 310. Acknowledging

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that the final report is not quite done yet. We

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have brought forward some themes that are informing the development

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of our final agreement. The initial themes here are reflected

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on the slide to start. While we certainly have heard

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from residents and neighbors with concerns. We've also noted that

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there are people with strong support of the relocation and

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the opportunities that this will create. We've heard expression of

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support for the planned collaboration. We've heard hope for what

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this new configuration will do to support people in our

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community. We also saw throughout the process that there have

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been some misunderstandings on some of the details. Based on

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the feedback. We've been doing work to clarify what a

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low barrier shelter means. And what that looks like and

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how that impacts people. Transition House has also clarified that

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the use and distribution of substances is absolutely prohibited. At

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ten Chapel street and will continue to be the case

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for 310. We've also clarified and confirmed clearly that this

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will not be a safe injection site. In addition, We've

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also had some confusion around the number of beds that

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will be available at this site, and we've been working

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to clarify that our plan is for approximately. 35 shelter

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beds in addition to a drop in center, as well

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as transitional housing, community safety and wellbeing has been a

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consistent theme arising throughout community engagement. Specifically, people have concerns

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about loitering in front of the shelter. They have asked

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about security measures planned for the facilities, such as lightning,

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cameras, fencing and the exploration of private security. Services. And

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we've also heard about the broader crime concern in the

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downtown corps throughout the last several weeks, community engagements were

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frequently acknowledged as a good start, with people indicating they

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appreciated the opportunity for dialogue. Residents also want to see

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this continue. A transition house through an establishment of Community

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Liaison committee, which will meet. Regularly to share information, address

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questions, discuss, and collectively problem solve community concerns and links

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shelter needs with community offers of support. The community would

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like to ensure that the shelter operations are based on

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research and best practice and as staff have the necessary

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training and resources to meet the varied and complex needs

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of clients. There was also some interest, quite a bit

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of interest, in the agreement struck between a town of

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Whitby and the region of Durham for shelter opening in

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that community and how that agreement could inform an agreement

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between the county and town of Coberg. Finally, residents shared

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a strong desire to see increased mental health and addiction

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services be made available to address what is viewed as

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a significant need in our community. As we've moved forward

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and as I've indicated, we are working through an agreement.

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With transition house and this will be presented to county

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council in the coming months and will factor in the

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concerns and the feedback we've heard through community engagement. Some

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of these terms that have already been. Identified that will

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be in the agreement include a long term accountability mechanism,

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recognizing that this is a public asset, and we need

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to make sure there's that control of it. There will

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be. A community liaison committee. There will be ongoing community

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engagement activities, including regular correspondence with county and the town

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of Colberg. There is a commitment to operating as a

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low barrier shelter, not no barrier and not a safe

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injection site. There's been commitment to adhere to property standards

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bylaws we will cover. Payment terms, mortgage and interest. We

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will ensure that. Transition house is required to be in

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good standing with annual service agreements, operating audits and capital

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reserve planning and quarterly reporting. We will also ensure there's

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consideration of security enhancements within this agreement. This takes us

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to the second part of the presentation today, which is

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the town of Cobert's. Emergency care establishment. License bylaw. This

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was published on February 21 for February 28, town of

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Cobra council agenda with an effective date of March 28,

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2024. This bylaw requires all shelters. To follow a series

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of requirements, and we're going to walk through some of

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them today. Here. It requires that all shelters schedule maintenance

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for litter waste accumulation and debris from shelter occupants within

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a 500 meters radius. For those may be unfamiliar with

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what that would mean. From 310. That would stretch all

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the way. Stretch from the lake all the way north

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to Spencer street west. To Spring street and east to

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Henry street, and each location at shelter is operating out

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of would be responsible for that cleanup in that same

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degree of area. They also require that a code of

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conduct be established for shelter occupants that aligns with the

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town's nuisance bylaw. All shelters would be required to submit

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operational plans and occupancy levels to the town. For their

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approval. 24/7 contact information for a local contact who is

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available to respond to matters involving the shelter within 1

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hour. Response by email or phone for any issue with

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the shelter. Shelter directors and officers would be personally liable

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for the adherence of the bylaw, including occupants behaviors off

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site. The fines would range from five hundred dollars to

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one hundred thousand dollars per day or partial day. And

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they would be required to provide 24/7 security on site

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and within that 500 meters. Radius. As staff. County staff

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have reviewed this bylaw. We've identified a number of potential

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risks. And impacts to our sheltering service. What we have

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highlighted here is that we recognize that this bylaw may

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impact cornerstone family violence. Prevention Center Transition house programming at

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ten Chapel street. Family diversion and motel overflow, as well

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as the ad hoc, county funded motel beds and of

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course, 310 division street when it became operational. This has.

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Created instability and concern for both shelter staff and clients.

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Recognizing that there is now an uncertain future of operations

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regarding their ability for shelter service is to continue operating

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after March 28. There could be a potential inability to

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keep or attract board members because of the personal liability.

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It is infeasible to consider monitoring behavior and actions of

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shelter clients once they leave the premises. It is cost

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prohibitive in its implementation, namely security, garbage and the monitoring

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of behavior. It also requires a proof of insurance that

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includes a $2 million liability limit per occurrence for property

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damage and bodily injury and identifies the town being added

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as additional insured. And these insurance requirements have been specifically

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held to be unrelated to purposes of health, safety and

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nuisance prevention. There is also a duplication of existing municipal

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services by law and police. There are also potential concerns

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about the legality of the bylaw and potential contravention. Of

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human rights. Implementation of the bylaw may discriminate against or

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impose barriers. Based on protected grounds, which includes receipt of

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public assistance, the sex and family status, and disability. Once

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the bylaw is enforced, shelters may not remain operational and

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there could be an increased presence. Of individuals living rough,

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including more encampments in Coburg, overcrowding and unsafe dwellings we

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may also have individuals who are unable to flee situations

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of family and relationship violence or human trafficking. And under

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the county's emergency plan annex hh, the county may be

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unable to operate. An emergency shelter facility within the town

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of Coberg. And just as a date to as a

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reminder is the solar eclipse that's being prepared for events

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taking place on April 8 and Lisa Answorth and Colleen

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McCabe will provide some more information about that after our

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closed session. And with that, that's the end of my

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presentation. I'm happy to take any questions or comments. Thank

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you. Associate director questions or comments for members of council?

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Councilor Cleveland. On February 14. It was to discuss that

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you had a high level theme conversation with the staff.

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At Coberg. Could you perhaps go into detail as to

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what less high level themes were. You chair or warden?

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Yes. It was. A number of staff from both the

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county and the town that were at the meeting. We

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were verbally walked through a number of items that the

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town Cao had highlighted based on what we understood to

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be there. Her discussions and direction from the town we

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talked about. What some of the steps were so far,

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some of the things that were unknown. And what we

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didn't know if we could comply with some of the

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things that we had significant concerns with a compliance with

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and we left it that we would share documents that

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we would share the community consultation report when it was

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made available. And. We would share an advanced look of

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the draft agreement between the county and transition house once

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that document was complete. And we left saying that we

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would set up another meeting to get into more detail

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once those questions could be answered. Thank you. You have

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a follow up? I have several of us. We'll go

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one at a time. So I guess the first question

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then is in regards to the concern mentioned that this

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bylaw would somehow affect Cornerstone Family Prevention center when it's

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clearly stated in section 20. Of the bylaw that. We

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can. The town of Coburg. Can issue exemptions. It's been

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very clear this is standard process. In any sort of

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licensing regime that's brought in in 2024. Standard practice that

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you always allow for exemptions under the rules, and so

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it's been very clear, as section 20 lays out. And

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as you can see from the email sent from the

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CAO Coberg today, that there really is almost an unnecessary

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concern regarding other shelter operations. Any of the shelters, like

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a transition house or any. Sorry, like a cornerstone that

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has years of successfully operating within the town of Coburg

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could easily simply apply for an exemption to the bylaw

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and move forward. So I guess I'm concerned as to

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why. This level of government is, in a sense, Fear

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mongering that this bylaw of Coburg is going to in

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any way shape. Or form affect shelters that have been

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in operation in Cobra for years. This goes to the

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point of the entire point that we'll be dealing with

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later after closed session regarding. The Ece definition and especially

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around. The evacuations. We have all of these individuals reaching

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out to Coberg, thinking that somehow this bylaw is going

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00:30:12,331 --> 00:30:15,686
to affect emergency centers that it's not. This is a

477
00:30:15,691 --> 00:30:18,806
very clear and well structured bylaw. So I guess my

478
00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:23,716
question is. What is giving the concern? That cornerstone is

479
00:30:23,721 --> 00:30:25,396
going to be affected by a bylaw when there's an

480
00:30:25,441 --> 00:30:34,017
easy exemption. For a cornerstone. Go ahead, Sam. Through Jordan.

481
00:30:35,699 --> 00:30:38,627
I think that. All of the comments on the exemption.

482
00:30:38,952 --> 00:30:42,935
While there's a provision. There was no comment during the

483
00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:47,255
initial presentation, and there's nothing written into the reports or

484
00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:50,775
any information that was shared publicly that would signal that

485
00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:55,095
that was the intent, to exclude all other sheltering operations

486
00:30:55,500 --> 00:31:00,222
except for 310 Division Street. It was passed without those

487
00:31:00,627 --> 00:31:05,062
exemptions provided for. And certainly until the last couple of

488
00:31:05,467 --> 00:31:08,542
days, we just became aware of the concerns for emergency

489
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:15,824
evacuation shelters. And given the effort and requirement to prepare

490
00:31:16,109 --> 00:31:17,984
a business plan or the other efforts for the application

491
00:31:18,469 --> 00:31:22,851
process. It's not currently available that we're aware of. It

492
00:31:22,856 --> 00:31:27,830
wasn't shared with the original. Information that went public. So

493
00:31:28,515 --> 00:31:31,350
we have to assume that the bylaw stands and is

494
00:31:31,675 --> 00:31:35,859
applicable to the entire sheltering system. I did receive an

495
00:31:36,184 --> 00:31:39,739
email early this morning from the CIO indicating that it

496
00:31:39,784 --> 00:31:43,019
would be the intention at a staff level to exempt

497
00:31:43,304 --> 00:31:46,939
the emergency evacuation shelters. But aside from the email, I

498
00:31:46,944 --> 00:31:50,660
don't have that. In writing. And it does say in

499
00:31:50,665 --> 00:31:53,780
the bylaw it's up to the director's. Discretion and that

500
00:31:54,105 --> 00:31:56,980
there could be conditions imposed, and we don't know what

501
00:31:57,305 --> 00:32:01,401
those conditions might be. Follow up. Yeah, I'm a little

502
00:32:01,726 --> 00:32:03,921
concerned about that because, I mean, it's very clear. There's

503
00:32:03,966 --> 00:32:08,272
a massive difference between. In a vacuum. We and a

504
00:32:08,277 --> 00:32:11,392
resident. And that's clear in the law and I guess.

505
00:32:11,717 --> 00:32:14,392
My question on that then is if there was no

506
00:32:14,757 --> 00:32:17,552
reaching out from Coberg, why is there no reaching out

507
00:32:17,877 --> 00:32:20,992
from this staff level to coberg of their concerns prior

508
00:32:21,037 --> 00:32:23,996
to putting all these reports into the public. I mean,

509
00:32:24,801 --> 00:32:27,156
county has had a report, first of all, the first

510
00:32:27,201 --> 00:32:30,236
report prior to any drafting of bylaw was sent to

511
00:32:30,521 --> 00:32:34,156
the county staff as of the date of February 14.

512
00:32:34,601 --> 00:32:37,316
That was the first issuance of information given to this

513
00:32:37,721 --> 00:32:40,796
level. On February 28, there was a follow up and

514
00:32:41,081 --> 00:32:43,796
a fulsome report provided. Again, each of these were asked

515
00:32:43,881 --> 00:32:46,410
for. The county feedback and asked for any concerns at

516
00:32:46,775 --> 00:32:49,450
that time, none were given. So I guess I find

517
00:32:49,735 --> 00:32:52,610
it interesting when the blame is being put on Coberg

518
00:32:52,895 --> 00:32:56,490
staff for not providing exemptions. Yet all these assumptions are

519
00:32:56,535 --> 00:32:59,210
being made by this level of government without actually doing

520
00:32:59,575 --> 00:33:02,130
the research or questioning of the lower tier about the

521
00:33:02,135 --> 00:33:04,820
intent. So I guess my concern is. Why is it

522
00:33:04,865 --> 00:33:07,660
on Coberg to tell you what is and isn't exempt?

523
00:33:07,985 --> 00:33:09,820
Why aren't the questions not being asked if the concern

524
00:33:10,225 --> 00:33:13,688
is there. I can't speak for staff, but I can

525
00:33:13,733 --> 00:33:17,768
only assume that if it was Coberg's, intent to exempt

526
00:33:18,093 --> 00:33:20,288
any shelters in Coberg that they would have baked it

527
00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:26,163
into the bylaw. That didn't happen, so. It leaves everyone

528
00:33:26,608 --> 00:33:29,243
questioning what's exempt. What's not exempt at this stage, I

529
00:33:29,288 --> 00:33:31,483
think. That again should be left that way because it's

530
00:33:31,488 --> 00:33:34,163
not to be a political discussion. Warden we shouldn't, as

531
00:33:34,488 --> 00:33:37,363
politicians, be deciding what is and isn't appropriate for professionals

532
00:33:37,688 --> 00:33:40,283
to decide that's the staff's job. And so at the

533
00:33:40,288 --> 00:33:42,203
end of the day, it's not for politicians to decide

534
00:33:42,568 --> 00:33:45,163
what exemptions should and shouldn't be there it's not our

535
00:33:45,488 --> 00:33:47,601
lane and. We're learning in Goldberg what our lane is

536
00:33:47,926 --> 00:33:50,121
there now? I guess the question again. I have to

537
00:33:50,166 --> 00:33:53,748
re ask. Is, the exemptions were applied so that the

538
00:33:53,793 --> 00:33:58,588
staff could use those exemptions when necessary. Again, why is

539
00:33:58,633 --> 00:34:02,188
this level of government issuing reports and statements that cause

540
00:34:02,553 --> 00:34:05,268
fear and commotion in our community? Without doing their due

541
00:34:05,313 --> 00:34:09,430
diligence of research and investigation. I don't think we should

542
00:34:09,475 --> 00:34:12,150
get into a finger pointing game of who's causing fear.

543
00:34:12,795 --> 00:34:14,310
Who's not causing fear? At the end of the day,

544
00:34:14,595 --> 00:34:16,830
I think both levels can be accused of the same,

545
00:34:17,235 --> 00:34:19,950
and I'm going to politely decline that. Sir, this level

546
00:34:19,995 --> 00:34:22,990
of the Cobrg. I've got all of the documentations of

547
00:34:23,035 --> 00:34:25,310
emails from the last month and a half of coverg,

548
00:34:25,555 --> 00:34:28,030
reaching out to this level of government, asking for feedback.

549
00:34:29,063 --> 00:34:32,618
Asking to come to the table, to work cooperatively together

550
00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:36,138
to mitigate this problem, to move forward because we are

551
00:34:36,183 --> 00:34:39,138
all aware that these are needed services in our community.

552
00:34:39,543 --> 00:34:42,338
We're all aware that this is needed. Ms. Carmen did

553
00:34:42,623 --> 00:34:44,938
an exceptional job today, outlining, first of all, the successes

554
00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:47,498
of staff to date as well as the clear and

555
00:34:47,543 --> 00:34:51,187
present need. So. I'm asking again, why is it that

556
00:34:51,552 --> 00:34:56,371
this level of government. Is not providing the appropriate, like,

557
00:34:56,416 --> 00:34:58,371
I've got the email saying that this exemption is there.

558
00:34:58,656 --> 00:35:02,100
So why are we looking at reports saying. That we

559
00:35:02,105 --> 00:35:06,640
should worry about the operations. Of cornerstone when clearly anyone

560
00:35:06,765 --> 00:35:09,320
can read that there's an opportunity for cornerstone to be

561
00:35:09,365 --> 00:35:11,560
exempt. From this bylaw and continue on with its services.

562
00:35:11,965 --> 00:35:14,160
So one assumes there's an opportunity. For 310 to be

563
00:35:14,205 --> 00:35:16,880
exempt from the bylaw as well. There could be that

564
00:35:17,245 --> 00:35:20,040
opportunity. Yes, if. So decided by staff. Again, that would

565
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,920
be dependent upon the staff's discretion. The professionals at the

566
00:35:23,965 --> 00:35:28,249
table and not. A political person. And yet, here we

567
00:35:28,254 --> 00:35:34,660
are. Cao, comment? Through you, warden. I think that there

568
00:35:34,745 --> 00:35:41,132
has been a number of conversations. In. Yes. Staff at

569
00:35:41,417 --> 00:35:43,852
Cobra have reached out, and there's been a response to

570
00:35:44,177 --> 00:35:47,846
all of those inquiries. In every case, there was a

571
00:35:47,891 --> 00:35:51,446
thoughtful response based on the information that was available at

572
00:35:51,451 --> 00:35:57,003
the time. The timelines were shared with staff as well

573
00:35:57,048 --> 00:36:01,516
as publicly through county council. And what the plans were,

574
00:36:01,881 --> 00:36:04,196
how long it would take to provide reports and information.

575
00:36:05,367 --> 00:36:08,522
We were very deliberate in being respectful of the community

576
00:36:08,727 --> 00:36:12,242
feedback, and I was very clear with CoBrg staff that

577
00:36:12,487 --> 00:36:17,721
it would be inappropriate. To advance formal agreements with the

578
00:36:18,126 --> 00:36:23,370
municipality until. The completion of that community consultation that we

579
00:36:23,415 --> 00:36:25,690
felt we owed it to the public to listen to.

580
00:36:26,015 --> 00:36:28,770
All of their comments and complete what we had committed

581
00:36:29,095 --> 00:36:34,166
to doing before. We agreed to specifics with the town.

582
00:36:35,251 --> 00:36:39,936
That was communicated. And we were very much caught off

583
00:36:39,981 --> 00:36:43,096
guard when the town decided to move forward in advance.

584
00:36:43,461 --> 00:36:45,696
The bylaw, and we could only take it at its

585
00:36:46,021 --> 00:36:49,256
face value. We did not receive advanced notice. Of that.

586
00:36:50,021 --> 00:36:52,816
We found it online. We only had about an hour's

587
00:36:53,141 --> 00:36:56,336
notice before it was. Published, so we had to react

588
00:36:56,701 --> 00:37:00,164
very swift. Swiftly once that was taken. I think we

589
00:37:00,209 --> 00:37:04,044
also need to give consideration to the risks when we

590
00:37:04,129 --> 00:37:07,604
look at what the implementation time frame is, and at

591
00:37:07,649 --> 00:37:10,644
this point, we're told it could be effective on March

592
00:37:11,049 --> 00:37:14,164
or that it will be a decision on March 27

593
00:37:14,209 --> 00:37:18,124
to become effective March. 20 eigth, and that is a

594
00:37:18,129 --> 00:37:21,216
very. Quick turnaround time. We know that when we look

595
00:37:21,461 --> 00:37:24,256
at the emergency evacuation shelters, it's only a few short

596
00:37:24,581 --> 00:37:27,256
days later that we would see a very large event

597
00:37:27,701 --> 00:37:30,016
potentially happening in our community, and we need to be

598
00:37:30,341 --> 00:37:33,096
prepared for that. We don't know there's a lot of

599
00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:36,416
questions, and we need to take the approach of a

600
00:37:36,461 --> 00:37:39,786
worst case scenario and being. Prepared for not receiving an

601
00:37:39,871 --> 00:37:42,986
exemption and how he would still respond by providing essential

602
00:37:43,631 --> 00:37:47,661
services with a very limited or no turnaround time. Councilor

603
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:54,327
crate. Thank you, Warren. Through you, I guess. My only

604
00:37:54,732 --> 00:38:02,418
question and concern. Especially in regard. To. Cornerstone would be.

605
00:38:03,732 --> 00:38:05,967
It does show in here that they could apply for

606
00:38:06,012 --> 00:38:09,759
an exemption. It doesn't say they'll get an exemption. I

607
00:38:09,804 --> 00:38:15,528
think that's where the problem arises. If this bylaw. Is

608
00:38:15,613 --> 00:38:22,255
intended. To. My way of thinking. Look after 310 division

609
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:24,935
streak, then it should be a bylaw that points out

610
00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:31,822
that it's. Being done. To look after 310 Division street

611
00:38:32,107 --> 00:38:35,462
and not put the rest of our operations in jeopardy.

612
00:38:36,502 --> 00:38:39,057
Councilor Cleveland. Yeah. So that was part of the report

613
00:38:39,182 --> 00:38:42,577
issued on February 14 to the cobra. Council, one that

614
00:38:42,622 --> 00:38:44,817
was provided to county staff, one that I would recommend

615
00:38:45,262 --> 00:38:49,417
this council read the clear. Intention of a licensing bylaw

616
00:38:49,742 --> 00:38:52,817
is to provide public health and safety protection for the

617
00:38:53,102 --> 00:38:56,853
community. Nuisance control and the general well being. Of persons.

618
00:38:57,578 --> 00:39:00,773
The problem is, Mr. Crate, is you cannot create laws

619
00:39:01,458 --> 00:39:05,886
or bylaws specific to a property or an intentionality. There

620
00:39:05,971 --> 00:39:08,246
has been use in other municipalities of what's called an

621
00:39:08,291 --> 00:39:11,806
interim control bylaw Cobra council decided that that was not

622
00:39:12,091 --> 00:39:14,886
the appropriate way because, as was mentioned in this, we

623
00:39:15,211 --> 00:39:19,326
could be seen as intentionally making moves against a vulnerable

624
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:22,606
population. In the report, it clearly states, and that's why

625
00:39:22,931 --> 00:39:24,766
I want to take issue with our CAO statement that

626
00:39:25,011 --> 00:39:27,366
it was such a surprise because as of February 14,

627
00:39:27,611 --> 00:39:30,726
this report has been publicly available, stating clearly that the

628
00:39:30,771 --> 00:39:34,286
staff's recommendation is to move towards a bylaw regime that

629
00:39:34,651 --> 00:39:36,966
they was on the February 14 that we had knowledge

630
00:39:37,011 --> 00:39:39,246
that that was what was most likely the case and

631
00:39:39,531 --> 00:39:42,126
the recommendation of covert staff. So if we've known since

632
00:39:42,451 --> 00:39:46,406
February 14 that that was the recommendation, you're right. The

633
00:39:46,451 --> 00:39:49,086
final report was issued 1 hour before. That's because that

634
00:39:49,131 --> 00:39:51,806
was when we were finally finished it from a legal

635
00:39:51,851 --> 00:39:55,006
perspective, because we've been consulting with a variety of professionals

636
00:39:55,651 --> 00:39:57,966
along the way to make sure that we were following

637
00:39:58,011 --> 00:40:00,726
our due diligence, making sure we were following the letter

638
00:40:01,011 --> 00:40:02,742
of the law. So that we wouldn't put ourselves in

639
00:40:02,787 --> 00:40:06,182
a position where this bylaw would be a potential to

640
00:40:06,227 --> 00:40:11,371
be challenged. Just one correction to the timeline. February 14

641
00:40:11,736 --> 00:40:19,198
was the staff meeting between the town and County. It

642
00:40:19,483 --> 00:40:22,758
was the 21st, the date of the agenda publication, when

643
00:40:23,403 --> 00:40:26,198
the reports in the draft bylaw were made public. We

644
00:40:26,243 --> 00:40:28,798
weren't aware of it prior to that. When it was

645
00:40:29,163 --> 00:40:32,238
published as part of the copper council agenda. Correct. My

646
00:40:32,323 --> 00:40:36,908
apologies for the 14th and 21st mistake award. Any other

647
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:43,065
questions of clarification on the presentation? Councilor Cleveland, prior to

648
00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:46,425
the two individuals that we've recently added to on the

649
00:40:46,510 --> 00:40:50,105
ground, support. What other measures does the county provide for

650
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:53,225
on the ground support for our most vulnerable in Coburg.

651
00:40:55,711 --> 00:41:02,568
Associate director. Through you, warden, we have. Had a street

652
00:41:02,933 --> 00:41:06,599
outreach position. In existence prior to those additional two that

653
00:41:06,604 --> 00:41:10,639
were created. We also would work with our county funded.

654
00:41:12,077 --> 00:41:14,912
Or county staff where folks maybe need assistance in the

655
00:41:14,917 --> 00:41:18,900
community, that we could help people as. They move forward.

656
00:41:20,037 --> 00:41:22,352
I think we have to also acknowledge that we are

657
00:41:22,437 --> 00:41:25,472
growing in the system and that we've been working to

658
00:41:25,477 --> 00:41:28,112
meet the needs, so we currently have three street outreach

659
00:41:28,157 --> 00:41:31,272
positions. Previously, we did have one, and we've now expanded

660
00:41:31,637 --> 00:41:34,712
it to three people, and we have been working through

661
00:41:35,077 --> 00:41:40,417
our homelessness leadership table and our homelessness coordinated response. Team

662
00:41:40,862 --> 00:41:45,327
with members from community agencies that do support. After hours

663
00:41:45,732 --> 00:41:48,487
and on the ground support, including the Colbert Police Service,

664
00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:52,727
the North Amberlyn Hills Hospital Community mental health team, the

665
00:41:53,052 --> 00:41:56,847
Canadian Mental Health association, and working to coordinate, among many

666
00:41:57,252 --> 00:42:00,767
others. Been working to coordinate responses for folks who need

667
00:42:01,572 --> 00:42:05,740
help in our community. Thank you. Follow up. So just

668
00:42:06,105 --> 00:42:08,860
to confirm, Koberg police Services is deemed as part of

669
00:42:09,145 --> 00:42:11,860
the counties on the street. Response position. I just want

670
00:42:11,905 --> 00:42:14,140
to confirm that that is part and parcel of what

671
00:42:14,385 --> 00:42:18,460
the county seizes. Our street outreach for our vulnerable individuals

672
00:42:18,705 --> 00:42:20,700
is, of course, our police. The Cobra police service is

673
00:42:20,745 --> 00:42:25,540
that correct, associate director? No. The three street outreach positions.

674
00:42:25,666 --> 00:42:29,112
That we have. Or the street. Outreach positions are funded

675
00:42:29,397 --> 00:42:32,232
and operating out of Northumberland Hills Hospital community mental health,

676
00:42:32,877 --> 00:42:35,112
but of course, we work with our partners who are

677
00:42:35,157 --> 00:42:39,421
funded to provide those things. Through the mhart team or

678
00:42:40,146 --> 00:42:43,295
the harp project. Through the town. The Cobra Police services.

679
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:47,695
My apologies. I don't have those acronyms spelled. Out, but

680
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:50,695
they are part of our team that connect and work,

681
00:42:50,980 --> 00:42:52,935
and we provide the wraparound. Supports for people who are

682
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:58,483
there, but. They are not obviously a county program. Follow

683
00:42:58,568 --> 00:43:01,483
up. Thank you. So up until the last two, which

684
00:43:01,528 --> 00:43:06,353
are very supportive of. We had one street outreach worker

685
00:43:06,358 --> 00:43:12,593
for 2000, this county. That's correct. Associate director. Yes. As

686
00:43:12,918 --> 00:43:16,153
our homelessness response has grown, we've seen this throughout the

687
00:43:16,478 --> 00:43:19,193
province that we have to look at, grow and adapt

688
00:43:19,518 --> 00:43:23,480
to the needs. In the community and expand our services

689
00:43:23,885 --> 00:43:26,520
where we have the funding ability to do so and

690
00:43:26,565 --> 00:43:29,535
where we can work to meet the best needs. There

691
00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:34,055
have always been shelter workers at cornerstone or transition house

692
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:37,135
or through salvation army or other partners. Who have been

693
00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:40,535
more on the ground that have been supporting folks in

694
00:43:40,620 --> 00:43:43,295
accessing those needs and we've been providing services to people,

695
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,663
but yes. You are correct. And of course, we would

696
00:43:46,708 --> 00:43:49,023
like to see outreach expand. And that's why we've done

697
00:43:49,428 --> 00:43:54,875
so. Thank you. Any other questions of clarification for members

698
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:55,795
of council?

699
00:44:07,429 --> 00:44:11,264
The clerk has a list of individual organizations, individuals and

700
00:44:11,309 --> 00:44:14,104
organizations who have expressed interest in making a delegation today.

701
00:44:18,567 --> 00:44:22,362
The county's procedural bylaw allows for delegations at standing committees

702
00:44:22,767 --> 00:44:26,451
only. And therefore, a procedural requirement will be that council

703
00:44:26,496 --> 00:44:31,626
will need to approve hearing any delegations. The motion before

704
00:44:31,711 --> 00:44:36,066
me reads. Whereas the council procedural bylaw 39 2023 allows

705
00:44:36,111 --> 00:44:39,706
for delegations at standing committees only, whereas council may choose

706
00:44:40,071 --> 00:44:43,666
to waive the rule of procedure established by this bylaw,

707
00:44:44,031 --> 00:44:50,246
and that requires a two thirds majority vote. Therefore, be

708
00:44:50,291 --> 00:44:53,446
it resolved that council approve hearing delegations from members of

709
00:44:53,451 --> 00:44:59,014
the public. And organizations regarding 310 Vision Street, Coberg and

710
00:44:59,019 --> 00:45:02,534
the town of Coberg's emergency care. Establishment licensing by law,

711
00:45:02,899 --> 00:45:06,774
at the March 6, 2024 special county council meeting. Is

712
00:45:06,819 --> 00:45:11,311
there a mover. Councilor logel. Is there a second councilor

713
00:45:11,716 --> 00:45:17,690
crate? Is there any discussion? Those in favor? Any opposed.

714
00:45:18,535 --> 00:45:27,039
Motions carried. So we do have.

715
00:45:32,761 --> 00:45:39,189
One delegation that. We're aware of. It is Ike Weebie,

716
00:45:39,234 --> 00:45:43,189
executive director of transition House. If you'd like to make

717
00:45:43,234 --> 00:45:45,389
your way forward to the microphone. I'll read a little

718
00:45:45,434 --> 00:45:50,515
blurb. Before we proceed with delegations, a reminder that delegations

719
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,675
are limited to a maximum of two. Presenters. Well, there

720
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,509
you are. And are permitted ten minutes plus five minutes

721
00:45:57,594 --> 00:46:00,589
for questions and answers from members of council. The clerk

722
00:46:00,634 --> 00:46:02,909
will act as the timekeeper, and I will verbally notify

723
00:46:03,314 --> 00:46:06,309
you when you have two. Minutes left. If you would

724
00:46:06,354 --> 00:46:08,949
prefer a visual cue, please note this at the start

725
00:46:08,994 --> 00:46:12,909
of your delegation. And staff will accommodate you. So, Ike,

726
00:46:13,234 --> 00:46:18,467
you have the floor, sir. Can you. Push the. Thank

727
00:46:18,792 --> 00:46:23,925
you. Good. All. Protocol duly observed. My name is Ike

728
00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:30,701
Weebay, serving as the executive director at transition house. I'm

729
00:46:30,746 --> 00:46:34,381
here before you today to address the potential ramifications of

730
00:46:34,386 --> 00:46:39,864
the emergency care. Establishment license by law. Proposed by the

731
00:46:39,869 --> 00:46:45,181
town of Kobok. This law not only impacts transition houses

732
00:46:45,266 --> 00:46:49,101
relocation plan to treat ten division street, but also affect

733
00:46:49,226 --> 00:46:54,724
our current operations at ten Chapel Street. And St. Peter's

734
00:46:54,809 --> 00:46:59,859
church. Implementation of this bylaw would render our organization's operations

735
00:47:00,584 --> 00:47:07,151
on feasible. Impacting service users, staff and the board adversely.

736
00:47:08,699 --> 00:47:14,937
Allow me to provide context regarding transition houses inception. In.

737
00:47:16,576 --> 00:47:20,651
The early stages of 1999, a coalition of community agencies

738
00:47:20,776 --> 00:47:26,932
recognized de escalating housing crisis in Notumberland County. Responding to

739
00:47:27,217 --> 00:47:30,852
this need, transition house emerged as a beacon of hope,

740
00:47:31,217 --> 00:47:37,075
offering a safe haven for individuals facing homelessness. Thanks to

741
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,273
the generous contributions from the Sisters of St. Joseph. A

742
00:47:42,358 --> 00:47:47,998
ministry of. Community and social services grant and unwavering community

743
00:47:48,523 --> 00:47:53,656
support. Transition house officially opened its doors in December 1999.

744
00:47:54,664 --> 00:47:59,899
Since then, we've grown significantly, expanding our services to accommodate

745
00:48:00,184 --> 00:48:05,726
diverse segments of our community. Currently. Transition house operates various

746
00:48:05,811 --> 00:48:11,524
programs, including a 22. Bed. Emergency shelter. A warming hub,

747
00:48:11,849 --> 00:48:17,339
a motor overflow program. And our family diversion initiative. In

748
00:48:17,424 --> 00:48:25,821
2023 alone, we served over 580 individuals across. These programs.

749
00:48:26,955 --> 00:48:32,823
Facilitated 17 successful housing placements and supported 23 families. Our

750
00:48:33,228 --> 00:48:38,543
commitment extends beyond providing shelter. We strive to empower individuals

751
00:48:38,588 --> 00:48:45,097
to regain autonomy and reintegrate into society. Our successes are

752
00:48:45,422 --> 00:48:49,981
evident in the stories of our service users. One of

753
00:48:49,986 --> 00:48:55,841
the persons we serve. Was wrongfully convicted and spent to

754
00:48:56,206 --> 00:49:01,041
1661 days in prison for a crime. Media document he

755
00:49:01,086 --> 00:49:05,401
was acquainted in 2015, he dealt with mental health challenges

756
00:49:05,526 --> 00:49:10,001
related to his wrongful conviction until it became too overwhelming.

757
00:49:11,139 --> 00:49:14,374
He was living in a trailer in an isolated location

758
00:49:14,659 --> 00:49:17,970
for quite some time. He left when he realized that

759
00:49:18,255 --> 00:49:23,127
he needed imminent mental health support. He also has ongoing

760
00:49:23,172 --> 00:49:26,687
legal challenges related to his wrongful conviction, which has been

761
00:49:27,092 --> 00:49:32,018
going on for twelve years. His pension is its only

762
00:49:32,343 --> 00:49:34,338
source of income, and it is not enough to meet

763
00:49:34,703 --> 00:49:39,535
the current cost. Of living. Another service user was residing

764
00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:42,175
in a rental property but had to leave because the

765
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:47,887
landlord required the space for personal use. Consequently. He has

766
00:49:47,972 --> 00:49:51,607
been unable to secure new accommodation, but has been added

767
00:49:52,012 --> 00:49:56,367
to the affordable housing waiting list. Through the support of

768
00:49:56,732 --> 00:50:03,558
our case management team. This Monday. Another service user informed

769
00:50:03,563 --> 00:50:06,158
me that through the support of our case management team

770
00:50:06,803 --> 00:50:10,542
and Watson employment services, It has been accepted into the

771
00:50:10,947 --> 00:50:14,962
training. Into training as a truck driver this week to

772
00:50:15,367 --> 00:50:19,872
pursue a brighter future. To demonstrate what success means for

773
00:50:19,877 --> 00:50:26,865
us, let me share some of our February. Highlights. A

774
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:32,195
service user was housed two started working. Two enrolled in

775
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,575
school. Two connected to Wharton employment services and one started

776
00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:40,375
treatment program. While this might mean nothing to persons who

777
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:43,855
were not in the field, it speaks volume of our

778
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:49,031
approach of meeting every individual where they are. Transition house

779
00:50:49,356 --> 00:50:54,624
is not just a shelter. It's a community bedrock. We've

780
00:50:54,669 --> 00:51:00,698
actively engaged with our neighbors, soliciting feedback. And collaborating to

781
00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:07,542
address concerns. The overwhelming support we've received reaffirms our integral

782
00:51:07,587 --> 00:51:13,338
role within the community. However, the proposed emergency care establishment,

783
00:51:13,743 --> 00:51:18,658
licensed by law, jeopardizes our mission and the individuals we

784
00:51:18,663 --> 00:51:25,305
serve. If enforced, it not only. Owes our relocation plans,

785
00:51:25,350 --> 00:51:30,184
but also undermines our existing operations. Our move to 310

786
00:51:30,509 --> 00:51:35,737
Division street aims to enhance service quality. Promote dignity among

787
00:51:36,102 --> 00:51:43,365
services. And foster collaboration with community agencies. These endeavor aligns

788
00:51:43,370 --> 00:51:47,325
with our vision of establishing Cobog and Notumberland and the

789
00:51:47,370 --> 00:51:54,386
entire Notumberland county as exemplars of housing first principles. We

790
00:51:54,431 --> 00:51:58,407
intend to run a 24 hours hub. Which serves as

791
00:51:58,972 --> 00:52:01,087
a skills development and program in space in the day

792
00:52:01,772 --> 00:52:05,761
and a respite in the night. A resource center equipped

793
00:52:05,806 --> 00:52:11,458
with resources for personal, educational, and professional development. Where individuals

794
00:52:11,783 --> 00:52:17,764
can do employment search. Apartment search, attend online training. And

795
00:52:17,849 --> 00:52:23,068
school and also explore other resources to enable them. To

796
00:52:23,113 --> 00:52:26,579
get back to their feet. We plan to run a

797
00:52:26,624 --> 00:52:31,139
35 unit emergency shelter, which is our current emergency shelter,

798
00:52:31,464 --> 00:52:36,306
and a motel. Overflow programs combined. We plan to open

799
00:52:36,751 --> 00:52:41,434
transitional housing units, which. Will serve clients who are housing

800
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:47,354
ready but still working to find appropriate, affordable and personal

801
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:51,158
and permanent housing. We plan to make it a platform

802
00:52:51,803 --> 00:52:55,918
where various service providers can connect with our service users

803
00:52:55,923 --> 00:53:01,038
for mental health and addiction support, employability, skills development, and

804
00:53:01,243 --> 00:53:07,489
many more. Should transition houses operations. The consequences will be

805
00:53:07,854 --> 00:53:16,024
there. Homelessness. Rates would surge. Training community resources and endangering

806
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:21,264
the wellbeing of vulnerable individuals. Moreover, the economic burden would

807
00:53:21,629 --> 00:53:29,833
escalate, contradicting claims of cost reduction. Without the shelter. Most

808
00:53:30,158 --> 00:53:35,131
of the individuals. Who are using our services have nowhere

809
00:53:35,216 --> 00:53:40,059
else to go. And this will lead to an increase

810
00:53:40,104 --> 00:53:44,779
in homelessness in the community. This can exacerbate issues such

811
00:53:44,824 --> 00:53:51,395
as street homelessness, panhandling and rough sleeping. More homeless individuals

812
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:56,435
may resort to living in unsafe and unsanitary conditions, such

813
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:02,569
as abandoned buildings or makeshift shelters in public spaces. Increasing

814
00:54:02,854 --> 00:54:06,289
their risk of exposure to crime, violence, and health hazard.

815
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:10,505
It may place additional strain on other community resources such

816
00:54:10,550 --> 00:54:17,460
as emergency services, hospitals, and law enforcement, as. They may

817
00:54:17,505 --> 00:54:20,500
have to deal with the consequences of increased homelessness and

818
00:54:20,625 --> 00:54:25,177
associated issues. Homelessness can take a toll on individuals mental

819
00:54:25,222 --> 00:54:28,337
health and overall well being. You have two minutes sir.

820
00:54:29,062 --> 00:54:34,847
I'm almost done. Thank you. Transition house closing may exacerbate

821
00:54:35,172 --> 00:54:38,287
these issues by depriving individuals of a safe and stable

822
00:54:38,412 --> 00:54:45,754
environment where they can access support. Services and resources. I

823
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:48,034
view my job as a calling to save the entire

824
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:53,992
Northumberland county. So do members of my team. Our dedicated

825
00:54:54,317 --> 00:54:58,712
team fears the prospects of closure. They've devoted years to

826
00:54:58,757 --> 00:55:03,032
support our community's. Most vulnerable and deserve reassurance about their

827
00:55:03,157 --> 00:55:09,369
employability. Employment security. In conclusion, the proposed regulation of homeless

828
00:55:09,774 --> 00:55:15,089
shelters demands careful consideration of its wide ranging implications. Transition

829
00:55:15,414 --> 00:55:18,209
House remains steadfast in its commitment to serving our community,

830
00:55:18,614 --> 00:55:22,409
and we implore all stakeholders to support our mission and

831
00:55:22,494 --> 00:55:25,329
safeguard the welfare of those in need. Thank you very

832
00:55:25,734 --> 00:55:28,712
much. I'll be glad to take questions at this point.

833
00:55:28,797 --> 00:55:31,352
Thank you, Mr. Weavey. We appreciate your delegation. Are there

834
00:55:31,397 --> 00:55:35,072
any questions of clarification from members of council? Councilor Cleveland?

835
00:55:35,357 --> 00:55:37,152
Thank you very much, warden, through you. Thank you for

836
00:55:37,157 --> 00:55:39,272
the presentation. I know I speak for every member. Around

837
00:55:39,357 --> 00:55:41,872
this table that in Northumberland county, we are excited to

838
00:55:41,877 --> 00:55:44,272
have you and your professional skill set. To add to

839
00:55:45,037 --> 00:55:49,821
our collective group. Your initial statement of the presentation. You

840
00:55:49,906 --> 00:55:52,981
said that the bylaw enacted by Cobert Council would prevent

841
00:55:53,026 --> 00:55:55,741
transition House from operating that. Was the statement that was

842
00:55:56,026 --> 00:55:58,741
made fair. You've then gone to go on to allocate.

843
00:55:58,786 --> 00:56:00,981
All of the plans which are wonderful, the ideas which

844
00:56:01,026 --> 00:56:04,861
are great, and of course, the ramification. Should transition house

845
00:56:04,946 --> 00:56:07,621
not be able to operate. Yet. Nowhere in the presentation

846
00:56:07,906 --> 00:56:10,842
have I been told how that bylaw. Would prevent your

847
00:56:10,967 --> 00:56:14,042
organization from operating. So could you perhaps explain why the

848
00:56:14,087 --> 00:56:17,202
bylaw is going to. Prevent transition outs from operating, right?

849
00:56:18,486 --> 00:56:21,881
So I would like to quickly share just one, which

850
00:56:22,206 --> 00:56:27,116
is, for instance, The activities of some of our clients

851
00:56:27,801 --> 00:56:32,728
in the community. Given the way the bylaw is written.

852
00:56:35,721 --> 00:56:38,636
Principal officers, the board members and all will be held

853
00:56:38,961 --> 00:56:45,622
accountable. In their person. For some of these behaviors or

854
00:56:45,907 --> 00:56:49,521
some of these activities by members of. The community that

855
00:56:49,886 --> 00:56:54,400
we serve. So that is one of those conditions. So

856
00:56:54,765 --> 00:56:57,882
I would have loved to go through some of. The

857
00:56:57,967 --> 00:57:02,095
other conditions, but. That simply just sums it so an

858
00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:07,273
organization. Without the able board where the board members are

859
00:57:07,318 --> 00:57:10,433
concerned in their own what their volunteers were given. Their

860
00:57:10,798 --> 00:57:15,989
time. And service to an organization that supports the vulnerable

861
00:57:16,314 --> 00:57:20,696
members of the community. That fear is already a push

862
00:57:21,061 --> 00:57:26,456
factor for them, and then automatically that renders us incapacitated.

863
00:57:27,221 --> 00:57:30,660
Or there is a potential of that happening. Thank you

864
00:57:30,705 --> 00:57:34,300
both. Any other questions for members of council? Councilor Cleveland?

865
00:57:35,065 --> 00:57:37,780
I guess I'm confused, because that responsibility of a board

866
00:57:38,465 --> 00:57:40,820
is the exact same responsibility that every member of this

867
00:57:41,145 --> 00:57:43,940
council. Is accepted that every board member and every other

868
00:57:43,945 --> 00:57:46,100
board that when you're on a police service board. That's

869
00:57:46,385 --> 00:57:49,100
an accepted responsibility, so I guess I'm just a little

870
00:57:49,145 --> 00:57:52,936
concerned. How? This would prevent it, so by all means.

871
00:57:54,394 --> 00:57:57,424
Cio, do you have a comment? I can add to

872
00:57:57,749 --> 00:58:04,636
that. I think there is a distinction in that. Our

873
00:58:04,681 --> 00:58:08,356
analysis is that in this case, the bylaw does expect

874
00:58:08,761 --> 00:58:12,276
the board to be responsible for the actions of those

875
00:58:12,681 --> 00:58:16,312
beyond who they have direct control. If we look at.

876
00:58:17,402 --> 00:58:20,597
Me sitting in my position. I have responsibilities for county

877
00:58:20,962 --> 00:58:24,317
staff. I don't have responsibilities for. All 90,000 residents of

878
00:58:24,322 --> 00:58:27,957
the county and their behaviors when they are not, or,

879
00:58:28,242 --> 00:58:30,237
and I don't have responsibilities for employees when they're not

880
00:58:30,562 --> 00:58:32,837
at work. I have responsibilities for them when they're here,

881
00:58:33,162 --> 00:58:35,477
when they're performing their duties, and that is tied to

882
00:58:35,522 --> 00:58:39,542
my position. And I think if we look at boards

883
00:58:40,187 --> 00:58:43,582
on nonprofits, we look at anybody sitting in that position.

884
00:58:44,704 --> 00:58:46,619
They are only held accountable for where they have direct

885
00:58:46,744 --> 00:58:52,153
control and influence and. Not for other people and other

886
00:58:52,558 --> 00:58:55,633
individuals where they do not have that direct responsibility. And

887
00:58:55,918 --> 00:58:58,193
I think that can be elaborated with any of the

888
00:58:58,278 --> 00:59:03,095
potential impacts or organizations impacted by this bylaw. Councilor Cleveland.

889
00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:07,980
Leslie, the concern about. The actions of the residents of

890
00:59:08,025 --> 00:59:10,740
310 division outside the community and the interpretation of the

891
00:59:11,025 --> 00:59:14,220
bylaw. Was I provided by appropriate legal counsel? Or is

892
00:59:14,225 --> 00:59:17,180
that simply the interpretation of staff and those of the

893
00:59:17,505 --> 00:59:24,996
shelter community. Mr. Webie. Are you able to answer that

894
00:59:25,041 --> 00:59:29,137
question? I can say a few I can't really speak

895
00:59:29,862 --> 00:59:35,260
to. The as far as legal. Interpretation of certain things

896
00:59:35,585 --> 00:59:39,260
are concerned. However, we are making our own consultations as

897
00:59:39,265 --> 00:59:44,200
well to really understand. The full implication of this, but.

898
00:59:49,314 --> 00:59:52,069
The feedback we have received so far is that, yes,

899
00:59:52,754 --> 00:59:57,276
there are legal implications of what is being proposed. But

900
00:59:57,601 --> 01:00:01,277
in terms of. In its entirety, like how it affects.

901
01:00:02,683 --> 01:00:04,838
And all that, the length and breadth of it that

902
01:00:04,923 --> 01:00:06,798
I cannot speak to at this point. Thank. You, sir,

903
01:00:07,123 --> 01:00:10,478
councilor Martin. I think what's happening here is that there

904
01:00:10,763 --> 01:00:13,158
is a debate over the wording of the bylaw, and

905
01:00:13,163 --> 01:00:18,044
that is not the issue. To my mind, the issue

906
01:00:18,089 --> 01:00:21,367
is, how do we find a way forward? Instead of

907
01:00:21,692 --> 01:00:25,621
ramming at each other. Can we please sort of. What

908
01:00:25,986 --> 01:00:29,575
is it? What is it you want? I think we'll

909
01:00:29,580 --> 01:00:31,535
get there and we'll get there good. I think we'll.

910
01:00:31,540 --> 01:00:35,509
Get there. We just need to be able to answer

911
01:00:35,914 --> 01:00:39,161
our questions of the delegate. Fair enough. Fair is fair,

912
01:00:39,486 --> 01:00:43,916
I think, but we'll get. There. Councilor Cleveland. Yeah. Just

913
01:00:44,241 --> 01:00:48,720
in response to my fellow counselors line of questioning. I

914
01:00:48,765 --> 01:00:51,959
think the reason. We're asking the questions about the interpretation

915
01:00:52,284 --> 01:00:55,399
is because the public is being presented with the interpretations

916
01:00:55,764 --> 01:00:59,919
of individuals as if. It's facts. It's being presented by

917
01:00:59,964 --> 01:01:03,479
individuals as if it is 100% the truth. We have

918
01:01:03,804 --> 01:01:07,479
reports going out in the community, creating fear in the

919
01:01:07,724 --> 01:01:10,999
community that this bylaw is somehow, some way, shape, form.

920
01:01:11,978 --> 01:01:16,893
Risking vulnerable individuals in our community. We've received emails regarding

921
01:01:17,618 --> 01:01:20,373
concerned residents wondering if their loved ones in Golden Plough

922
01:01:20,698 --> 01:01:23,613
Lodge are somehow being affected by a bylaw being passed

923
01:01:24,218 --> 01:01:27,893
in Coberg because of the comments and the reports that

924
01:01:28,178 --> 01:01:30,573
are being issued at this level. Councilor so the reason

925
01:01:30,938 --> 01:01:33,275
that wording matters. And the reason we're going back and

926
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,955
forth on that wording is because the interpretation of that

927
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,515
wording is leading to fear in the community, fear that

928
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,155
needs to be dragged out. And spoken about in open

929
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,765
session. So that's the reason these questions. Rest my case.

930
01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:48,205
That ends our five minute, goes two ways, ends our

931
01:01:48,490 --> 01:01:50,485
five minute, Q and A. Session. Thank you, Mr. Weavey.

932
01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:55,725
We appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Are there

933
01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:59,205
any other members of the public and or representatives or

934
01:01:59,570 --> 01:02:03,245
organizations who would like to make a delegation this afternoon.

935
01:02:09,731 --> 01:02:15,635
Seeing none. The motion before me reads it that county

936
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,875
council received the delegation from the following members of the

937
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,835
public and organizations regarding 310 Division street in the town

938
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:31,471
of Coburg's emergency care establishment. Licensing bylaw for information. We

939
01:02:31,516 --> 01:02:36,086
be executive director, transition house. Is there a mover? Councilor

940
01:02:36,451 --> 01:02:41,671
crate, second by councilor jib. Is there any further discussion?

941
01:02:42,476 --> 01:02:45,821
All in favor? Being none opposed, that motion is carried.

942
01:02:53,197 --> 01:02:55,672
In a motion that county council received the staff presentation

943
01:02:55,997 --> 01:02:59,912
regarding town of CoBrg's emergency care establishment, licensing bylaw and

944
01:02:59,957 --> 01:03:03,072
potential impacts to the homelessness system. For information is there

945
01:03:03,157 --> 01:03:11,376
a mover. Councilor Martin second. Councilor Cleveland. Sorry I'm not

946
01:03:11,421 --> 01:03:13,616
secondary. After it's second, I'd have something to speak. To

947
01:03:13,941 --> 01:03:21,477
on the floor. Local. Councilor Cleveland. I'd like to have

948
01:03:21,842 --> 01:03:24,197
certain aspects of that presentation removed, because I don't believe.

949
01:03:24,562 --> 01:03:26,917
Them to be factually or correct and misleading in nature.

950
01:03:28,225 --> 01:03:32,740
Are you proposing a motion to amend? No, I'm proposing

951
01:03:32,745 --> 01:03:35,780
that we don't accept. The bylaw unless we're going to

952
01:03:35,785 --> 01:03:39,220
go line by line to strike out what parts. Are,

953
01:03:39,305 --> 01:03:42,020
in my opinion, fear mongering. I'm moving that we should

954
01:03:42,305 --> 01:03:44,540
not be accepting this for information, because that information is

955
01:03:44,585 --> 01:03:49,937
not agreed upon. Thank. You anything further on the motion?

956
01:03:50,622 --> 01:03:55,540
All in favor? Are there any opposed? Motions carried.

957
01:04:02,225 --> 01:04:04,500
Now is an opportunity for the immediate asked questions. I

958
01:04:04,785 --> 01:04:07,180
see no media in the gallery. I do know that

959
01:04:07,545 --> 01:04:15,294
there is. One member of the media online. So, Cecilia,

960
01:04:15,539 --> 01:04:19,299
I'll call you out by name. Do you have any

961
01:04:19,704 --> 01:04:23,108
questions? I do. Not at this time. Thank you.

962
01:04:30,082 --> 01:04:39,966
That brings us to our closed session. After. Council deliberates

963
01:04:40,051 --> 01:04:42,726
the closed session, motion members of the media and the

964
01:04:42,731 --> 01:04:45,166
public that are on zoom. Will be moved into the

965
01:04:45,211 --> 01:04:48,006
virtual waiting room while the closed session takes place. Staff,

966
01:04:48,291 --> 01:04:50,966
media and the public attending in person will be asked

967
01:04:51,051 --> 01:04:54,046
to leave the council chambers during the closed session. The

968
01:04:54,131 --> 01:04:56,606
motion before me reads that this council proceed with the

969
01:04:56,651 --> 01:04:58,566
next portion of the meeting being closed to the public.

970
01:04:59,187 --> 01:05:05,505
At. 338. P. M. And further, that the meeting is

971
01:05:05,550 --> 01:05:07,705
closed to the public as permitted under the Municipal act.

972
01:05:07,830 --> 01:05:10,905
Section 239, two f and two k, in order to

973
01:05:11,230 --> 01:05:13,825
address matters pertaining to advice that is subject to solicitor

974
01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:17,945
client privilege, including communications necessary for that purpose and confidential

975
01:05:18,310 --> 01:05:25,751
negotiations. Direction on negotiations with the town of Coburg's emergency

976
01:05:25,876 --> 01:05:29,791
care establishment, licensing bylaw and that Jennifer Moore, Lisa Horn,

977
01:05:29,836 --> 01:05:33,311
Kate Campbell, Darryl Mask, Rebecca Carmen, Bill Smith, Madison Mather

978
01:05:33,356 --> 01:05:38,039
and Cheryl Sanders remain present. Is there a mover? Councilor

979
01:05:38,164 --> 01:05:43,514
jib. Seconded by councilor Martin. Councilor Cleveland, I would also

980
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:46,114
like to voice my opposition to this motion. I believe

981
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:48,394
that the reason we're in this current situation is because

982
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:54,225
of. The closed nature of communication at this level of

983
01:05:54,550 --> 01:05:58,025
government. I think we are continuing that process by moving

984
01:05:58,110 --> 01:06:01,305
into closed and I think that an issue this necessary

985
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:05,382
and. This important to both the county and the city

986
01:06:05,427 --> 01:06:07,982
of Coberg should be dealt with in a more transparent

987
01:06:07,987 --> 01:06:10,723
and accountable way. Thank you. Any other comments or questions

988
01:06:11,128 --> 01:06:15,258
on the motion? All those in favor? Are there any

989
01:06:15,663 --> 01:06:20,149
opposed? Motions carried. And we'll take.

990
01:06:25,853 --> 01:06:28,288
A five minute recess while staff transitions into the closed

991
01:06:28,613 --> 01:06:28,728
session.

992
01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:48,874
Thank you. It's six oh seven. I'll call this meeting

993
01:06:48,879 --> 01:06:51,554
back to order and. With a motion that this council

994
01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:57,154
rise from closed session at further that the confidential resolution

995
01:06:57,439 --> 01:07:00,234
moved in. Closed session regarding matters pertaining to the advice

996
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:06,825
that is subject to solicitor client privilege, including communic. Communications

997
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:10,625
necessary for that purpose and confidential negotiations is hereby referred

998
01:07:10,910 --> 01:07:13,505
to this open session of council. For adoption as their

999
01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:19,770
mover. Councilor crate seconded by councilor Martin. Any discussion? All

1000
01:07:19,895 --> 01:07:25,251
in favor? Any opposed? Motions carried. That brings us to

1001
01:07:25,576 --> 01:07:35,202
report. 20 24 00:42 emergency management, evacuation, shelter services. Director

1002
01:07:35,567 --> 01:07:41,002
Ainsworth and Emergency Health safety Emergency risk manager McCabe.

1003
01:07:47,904 --> 01:07:50,179
Thank you, Warden. And through you, and recognizing that you've

1004
01:07:50,184 --> 01:07:52,739
had a long afternoon, I won't. Be very long. We

1005
01:07:52,784 --> 01:07:54,299
know that you've had a lot of discussion. With respect.

1006
01:07:54,544 --> 01:07:58,139
To the bylaw and just with respect to emergency management

1007
01:07:58,544 --> 01:08:02,499
services, we recognize the bylaw does provide an authority for

1008
01:08:02,544 --> 01:08:08,349
exemption under section 20. However, we are concerned. That the

1009
01:08:08,394 --> 01:08:12,149
bylaw in general in its application does not differentiate an

1010
01:08:12,194 --> 01:08:17,457
exempt reception centers and evacuation shelters. County staff Cobra staff

1011
01:08:17,502 --> 01:08:21,661
did reach out to cao more today. Specific to this.

1012
01:08:22,386 --> 01:08:27,438
However, we are. Seeking clarity and for certainty moving forward.

1013
01:08:28,083 --> 01:08:30,878
We're recommending that and to ensure that clarity county council

1014
01:08:31,163 --> 01:08:33,798
direct staff to request the town of Coperg amend the

1015
01:08:33,843 --> 01:08:37,397
recent bylaw. I won't name it again. I'm sure you

1016
01:08:37,482 --> 01:08:40,957
know what it is to exempt. Emergency reception centers and

1017
01:08:41,282 --> 01:08:45,833
evacuation shelters. That's just the basis. That's just to the

1018
01:08:45,878 --> 01:08:48,473
point that we're just. Looking for that exemption. So I'll

1019
01:08:48,518 --> 01:08:51,073
read the motion, then we can have some discussion. Motion?

1020
01:08:51,118 --> 01:08:54,313
Reads, whereas Northumberland county's emergency management team is actively preparing

1021
01:08:54,598 --> 01:08:58,673
for the April 8, 2024 solar eclipse event by coordinating

1022
01:08:58,958 --> 01:09:07,896
with local agencies. Law enforcement emergency responders to ensure readiness

1023
01:09:08,261 --> 01:09:10,896
for any potential impacts. And whereas at the February 28

1024
01:09:11,181 --> 01:09:13,536
2024 town of Cobra council meeting it was noted that

1025
01:09:14,341 --> 01:09:18,496
the town of Coberg's emergency care establishment licensing. By law,

1026
01:09:19,061 --> 01:09:22,027
you couldn't have come up with something better. Shall come

1027
01:09:22,352 --> 01:09:25,667
into force and take effect as of March 28, 2024,

1028
01:09:26,232 --> 01:09:29,107
unless an agreement deems satisfactory to the town is implemented

1029
01:09:29,312 --> 01:09:31,787
with the county and transition house by the date pertaining

1030
01:09:32,112 --> 01:09:35,267
to 310. Division street. And whereas, notwithstanding the outcome of

1031
01:09:35,592 --> 01:09:38,867
negotiations between the county and the town of Coburg, regarding

1032
01:09:39,192 --> 01:09:45,994
an. Emergency shelter agreement. Maintaining current emergency management evacuation shelters

1033
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,314
is of critical importance now. Therefore, be it resolved. That

1034
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:53,834
county council having considered report 20 24 42, emergency management,

1035
01:09:53,879 --> 01:09:57,474
evacuation, shelter services direct staff to request that the town

1036
01:09:57,719 --> 01:10:00,754
of Coberg amend the bylaw to license, regulate and govern

1037
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,179
emergency care. Establishments in the Town of Coberg to exempt

1038
01:10:04,504 --> 01:10:08,299
emergency reception centers and evacuation shelters. Is there a mover.

1039
01:10:09,449 --> 01:10:13,244
Councilor crate seconded by ["Councillor"] Logel, is there any discussion?

1040
01:10:14,742 --> 01:10:17,817
Councilor Cleveland. Thank you very much. Again, I want to

1041
01:10:18,222 --> 01:10:21,777
point out that this is an unneeded. Request. I want

1042
01:10:21,822 --> 01:10:24,897
to point out very clearly what an ECe definition is

1043
01:10:25,262 --> 01:10:29,377
an emergency. Care establishment means an institutional use that provides

1044
01:10:30,062 --> 01:10:34,017
a means of immediate temporary accommodation and assistance for a

1045
01:10:34,062 --> 01:10:36,086
short term period. Generally less than one week for the

1046
01:10:36,131 --> 01:10:43,166
majority of quote unquote, residents. The ECE definition automatically prevents.

1047
01:10:44,305 --> 01:10:47,540
Reception centers to fall victim to this bylaw. Because we

1048
01:10:47,825 --> 01:10:50,700
are not dealing with residents. We are dealing with evacuees.

1049
01:10:51,305 --> 01:10:53,620
There is a clear definition and term difference that is

1050
01:10:53,705 --> 01:10:57,220
needed. It is my belief that this request of Coberg

1051
01:10:57,505 --> 01:11:02,060
is to further instill a concern and fear amongst the

1052
01:11:02,385 --> 01:11:06,202
residents of Northumberland. But a bylaw that has nothing to

1053
01:11:06,207 --> 01:11:12,290
do with emergency evacuations. We have very clear emergency classifications.

1054
01:11:12,575 --> 01:11:16,226
I provided all of. The council here with the clear

1055
01:11:16,551 --> 01:11:19,666
definitions of the support as well as the different levels

1056
01:11:19,711 --> 01:11:23,666
of crisis. Available the emergency classifications. And again, it is

1057
01:11:24,031 --> 01:11:28,376
very clear to. Anyone in terms of reading this bylaw,

1058
01:11:28,741 --> 01:11:33,096
that the two do not affect one another and if

1059
01:11:33,541 --> 01:11:36,256
again, there is a situation where it is deemed that

1060
01:11:36,541 --> 01:11:40,014
this does affect them. Again, noting that it doesn't. There

1061
01:11:40,059 --> 01:11:43,814
is the emergency care establishment. By law section 20 exemption,

1062
01:11:44,419 --> 01:11:49,934
it would automatically be used. Furthermore, it's very clear, as

1063
01:11:50,219 --> 01:11:53,442
all the attached documents have been included. On our agenda

1064
01:11:53,767 --> 01:11:56,882
that we have years of history between covirg and the

1065
01:11:56,927 --> 01:12:01,682
county regarding emergency evacuations procedures. Therefore, it is a clear

1066
01:12:02,087 --> 01:12:06,409
opportunity for an exemption if it were even needed. But

1067
01:12:06,814 --> 01:12:10,639
again, The very specific interpretation by the county of this

1068
01:12:11,324 --> 01:12:16,191
is, again, I believe, an intention to divide. Our communities

1069
01:12:16,596 --> 01:12:21,391
and to pit other lower tier municipalities against the CoBrg

1070
01:12:21,476 --> 01:12:23,991
council. I do not see a need for this, and

1071
01:12:24,036 --> 01:12:27,283
I do not see. The reason for this, outside of

1072
01:12:27,288 --> 01:12:30,830
that. It's very clear in the law. It's very clear.

1073
01:12:31,555 --> 01:12:35,510
And again, we're being asked to do this. On which

1074
01:12:35,635 --> 01:12:40,100
interpretation? We have at Coberg gone to the legal professionals.

1075
01:12:41,742 --> 01:12:44,577
We have consulted with emergency management. That is all part

1076
01:12:44,902 --> 01:12:47,577
and parcel of the bylaw that was drafted? Had anyone

1077
01:12:47,942 --> 01:12:50,737
at this level of government reached out to Coberg prior

1078
01:12:50,742 --> 01:12:53,417
to issuing this report? Or request, they would have realized

1079
01:12:53,782 --> 01:12:59,495
that. Thank you. Thank you. Further discussion. Councilor jib. Could

1080
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:09,826
our staff. Send written correspondence. To get confirmation. Written confirmation

1081
01:13:10,191 --> 01:13:13,744
of what has just been described to us. I'd suggest

1082
01:13:14,069 --> 01:13:22,691
that's what this motion requests. They're specifically requesting. An exemption

1083
01:13:23,016 --> 01:13:26,131
from the bylaw, which is what we're directing staff to

1084
01:13:26,176 --> 01:13:30,210
do. Then that's not my intent, and I disagree with

1085
01:13:30,535 --> 01:13:34,810
the previous thought. This motion is to ask for an

1086
01:13:34,855 --> 01:13:40,919
exemption. Based on the information. It doesn't need an exemption

1087
01:13:41,724 --> 01:13:44,399
because of the nature and the definition of the bylaw.

1088
01:13:45,943 --> 01:13:50,872
My proposal would be. To confirm in written form that

1089
01:13:50,997 --> 01:13:54,152
an exemption is not needed would be where my thoughts

1090
01:13:54,517 --> 01:14:00,313
are. Again. Taking into consideration the potential sensitivity of the

1091
01:14:00,718 --> 01:14:07,186
communication. Deputy warden. I agree with you, Councilor jib. And

1092
01:14:07,711 --> 01:14:13,441
given that. Councilor Cleveland is referring to correspondence. Can we

1093
01:14:13,486 --> 01:14:18,444
just ask that? To be resubmitted to us for clarification.

1094
01:14:20,088 --> 01:14:23,421
And information. I just feel like. There's all the reasons

1095
01:14:23,466 --> 01:14:29,405
that we talked about before. Sensitivities. And I think it's

1096
01:14:29,450 --> 01:14:31,725
clear to me that there's no need for this at

1097
01:14:31,770 --> 01:14:39,645
this point. If that. Is going to be if the

1098
01:14:39,690 --> 01:14:42,365
direction by staff that we received early this morning is

1099
01:14:42,410 --> 01:14:45,125
going to be respected in our time of urgency. And

1100
01:14:45,370 --> 01:14:48,351
we can rely on that, then that is fine. I

1101
01:14:48,396 --> 01:14:51,231
do take exception to the characterization of the spirit in

1102
01:14:51,476 --> 01:14:53,871
which this was brought forward. Staff brought this forward with

1103
01:14:54,156 --> 01:14:57,871
the best interest of our community in mind. We felt

1104
01:14:58,156 --> 01:15:00,511
that we needed to take every avenue possible to ensure

1105
01:15:00,836 --> 01:15:03,551
that we can deliver the services in a time of

1106
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:09,679
emergency. Since the town did choose to. Clarify that. That's

1107
01:15:10,044 --> 01:15:12,279
great. And if we do have an exemption, we can

1108
01:15:12,284 --> 01:15:16,354
move forward with that, but it was not. In any

1109
01:15:16,879 --> 01:15:20,714
spirit of, as was characterized by Councilor Cleveland, it was

1110
01:15:20,799 --> 01:15:23,434
intended simply to make sure we have resources available to

1111
01:15:23,759 --> 01:15:27,665
our community when they're needed. Thank you. Councilor Crate, do

1112
01:15:27,670 --> 01:15:32,157
you have any interest in withdrawing this motion? Yes, thank

1113
01:15:32,522 --> 01:15:37,072
you. Could I have a motion that we refer the

1114
01:15:37,117 --> 01:15:42,850
matter to staff? We'll refer it back to staff, and

1115
01:15:42,895 --> 01:15:46,290
then if it requires further examination, you can bring. It

1116
01:15:46,295 --> 01:15:53,356
forward at the March meet. Regular council meeting. Thank you.

1117
01:15:55,059 --> 01:15:58,752
And a second. Seconded by Councilor Cleveland.

1118
01:16:09,247 --> 01:16:15,241
I need to read the motion. Madison can only type

1119
01:16:15,606 --> 01:16:18,528
so fast. Sorry.

1120
01:16:42,389 --> 01:16:43,304
No, it's okay.

1121
01:17:04,339 --> 01:17:06,734
The motion before me reads that county council having considered

1122
01:17:06,979 --> 01:17:11,454
report 20 24 00:42 emergency management evacuation shelter services refers

1123
01:17:11,499 --> 01:17:14,054
this matter back to staff and report back to county

1124
01:17:14,099 --> 01:17:18,697
council March 20, 2024 if required. That's moved by deputy

1125
01:17:18,942 --> 01:17:22,177
warden Hanksky, seconded by councilor Cleveland. Are you both okay

1126
01:17:22,542 --> 01:17:26,137
with the wording of that. Any further discussion? Those in

1127
01:17:26,542 --> 01:17:35,189
favor? Any opposed. Motions carried. Can't even sign it. That

1128
01:17:35,234 --> 01:17:37,229
brings us to media questions. We have no media in

1129
01:17:37,554 --> 01:17:43,002
the gallery. And we have no media online. Thank you

1130
01:17:43,367 --> 01:17:48,688
very much. Confirmatory bylaw. That bylaw. 12 20 20. I'll

1131
01:17:48,973 --> 01:17:51,648
start again. That bylaw. 12 20 24 being a bylaw

1132
01:17:51,653 --> 01:17:53,808
to confirm the proceedings of a special meeting of county

1133
01:17:53,853 --> 01:17:58,184
council held on March 6, 2024. Be introduced, be deemed

1134
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:59,984
to be read a first, second and third time, be

1135
01:18:00,029 --> 01:18:03,629
passed, signed and sealed. Is there a mover? Councilor Martin,

1136
01:18:03,714 --> 01:18:06,429
seconded by councilor Logel. Is there any discussion? All in

1137
01:18:06,794 --> 01:18:15,927
favor? Any opposed. Motions carried. Thank you. I have a

1138
01:18:15,932 --> 01:18:18,967
motion that council adjourn at 06:20 p.m.. Is. There any

1139
01:18:19,052 --> 01:18:21,207
discussion? Oh, I'll need a mover. Is there a mover,

1140
01:18:21,252 --> 01:18:25,782
please? Move by councilor crate, seconded by Deputy Warden Henkifsky.

1141
01:18:26,067 --> 01:18:27,102
Any discussion? All in. Favor.