[0:00] e [0:45] follow [1:16] we heard that start [1:27] over good yes yes I think so [1:34] yes wait until you say [1:40] go okay all right okay we will call to order city council work session a [1:46] regular business meeting for February 20th [1:48] 2025 it is 6:03 PM Lindsay would you please call the RO council member Baker [1:54] Brown here Co here Livingston miniki yes mayor Philip I'm here we have a quorum [2:01] so we'll move on item number two is a pledge of allegiance would please rise [2:04] and S the Pledge of Allegiance with [2:10] me United [2:17] States [2:23] indivisible all right item number three is approval of [2:28] the agenda we are going to remove move items 7 I and 7j from the agenda would [2:33] anybody like to move any of the consent agenda items to the regular [2:39] agenda none can I get a motion to approve the the agenda as amended [2:45] motion second it okay so motion by Brown seconded by [2:50] mini all those in favor say I I I I post same that motion carries item four is [2:56] dedicated work session uh this is dedicated work session s for mayor and [3:00] Council uh the regular city council meeting will begin following this work [3:05] session item a is The Envision 2023 strategic visioning and goal setting [3:11] review so Luke and Lindsay have been uh working with department heads to share [3:15] the Strategic Vision formulated by C city council and myself uh we felt that [3:21] this work session would give us a chance to talk to any questions and establish [3:25] clarifications so that we have a solid document to guide the city [3:30] lind's going to step us through the our visioning process mostly for the benefit [3:36] of the V of the citizens present or watching online and then we're going to [3:39] go and discuss the goals and refine the 2035 strategic Vision which is called [3:46] Envision 2035 it's good name uh Lindsay floor is yours thank you uh so mayor and [3:53] Council h of strategic thinking and execution planning session last November [3:58] uh as you just said it's been en it's been titled Envision 2035 a pathway to [4:03] norwalk's [4:06] future thank you um we're aiming to create strategic goals to achieve [4:11] alignment and Clarity for the city with specific actions and benchmarks to [4:15] ensure [4:19] implementation and as you're all aware uh we have our purpose statement [4:24] here some of our past accomplishments included safety initiative staff [4:28] development infrastructure and growth commercial development the bike trail [4:33] and Industrial Development while maintaining our tax [4:38] levy some of our critical Trends Show Stable growth a desire for increased [4:43] Services State legislator's goal to reduce local government strong [4:47] intergovernmental relationships and overall citizen [4:53] satisfaction um from our citizen survey we compiled the top things that we feel [4:58] like our citizens uh had expressed that they wanted or wanted us to improve [5:03] which was our street and sidewalk conditions more Economic Development and [5:07] expanded park and rec programs and Facilities we also did a SWAT analysis [5:14] to identify our strengths opportunities weaknesses and threats I'm not going to [5:19] go over each of those but you could reference back to this if you want [5:24] to which brought us to our six um top 10e goals so the first one is championed [5:31] by council member Livingston and it's the master plan and new urbanism so [5:36] execute a master plan and include the Interstate 35 interchange and scurve [5:41] area and to have a series of neighborhoods and Commercial [5:45] hubs second one is championed by mayor Phillips and it's the North River and [5:49] I35 interchange so to develop those areas and to have a fully developed [5:54] interchange on Interstate 35 the third one is championed by [5:59] councilman miniki and his walkability in connecting [6:04] neighborhoods kind of self-explanatory uh the fourth is championed by Jason [6:09] Brown and it's how Norwalk is viewed so distinct neighborhoods that are viewed [6:13] as unique fun and proud to live in the fifth is championed by Ed Co and [6:19] is uh Highway 28 so after dot reconstruction uh Council wishes to have [6:26] the city owned Highway 28 inside corporate limits and this is been the [6:30] one that we've gotten the most questions on from staff so they might ask for a [6:34] little bit more Direction on that one and lastly Champion by Brian Baker is [6:38] balanced tax base which this one rolled over from our 2028 Vision which is to [6:43] have uh 30% of our tax base be commercial or [6:49] industrial then we defined how we were going to accomplish these goals which is [6:52] to dedicate staff time Implement communication strategies prioritize [6:56] projects and funds identify and work with key stakeholders and review our [6:59] comprehensive [7:04] plan then we set threeyear one year and 90day benchmarks with specific action [7:10] items for each time frame staff has already begun working on the 90-day [7:13] benchmarks we've identified staff and departments to lead each of these [7:17] projects or goals um I will then after tonight go in and add those projects to [7:22] each department heads project management spreadsheet and Tai will create a Public [7:27] Communication plan to get that get it out to the public [7:35] so same slide as before with our 10e goals but with the lead Department above [7:40] department or departments I should say above those goals um although there are [7:44] one or two lead departments or people um for these it's important to note that [7:50] accomplishing these will be a team effort and will require the help of [7:52] numerous departments do these look okay as far as [7:58] the Departments that would take lead on those goals [8:04] yeah lastly just questions comments [8:11] concerns have clarifying questions Wayne did you wanna uh do you [8:18] want to bring something up about the Highway 28 question do you want me to no [8:21] I can bring it up um first I just wanted to mention the [8:25] walkability connecting neighborhoods I think that's a great goal and a great [8:30] that kind of aligns with a bigger picture ADA compliance regulations that [8:35] we're trying to accomplish so that is a great goal on there regarding the [8:40] Highway 28 had a few concerns with um taking over the ownership of the [8:46] highway if we were to try to take over ownership of it through Norwalk it'll [8:50] still be a state controlled and owned Highway North of Norwalk and south of [8:54] Norwalk the state will require even if we own it that the highway within [8:59] Norwalk be operated and maintained to their standards and their rules so the [9:04] rideway will still have access restrictions there'll still be the [9:08] traffic control will still be under DOT [9:14] regulations um so they're still going to have authority over how it's operated we [9:20] won't have autonomous control over it they're going to want it to be operated [9:23] as a State Highway it'll be there's some concerns with that another concern is [9:30] along with the payment it's probably going come the rest of the RightWay the [9:33] green SPAC is next to it and the storm sewer ditches the spiles the trees it's [9:38] not just the pavement it'll be they want the entire right away to be conveyed [9:43] over um and if that's what we want we can definitely work toward that if the [9:48] goal is just more maintenance or an improved [9:50] rideability of the payment I think there's a way to do that we can work [9:55] with the dot we have a annual agreement with the dot for snow removal and winter [10:00] maintenance on the road I think we could look at our annual agreement um to try [10:06] to encourage more maintenance by the state or we can look at that to see if [10:09] there's some options for um encouraging them to maintain the [10:13] road better we might have other options to get an improved Highway 28 without [10:17] ownership of it um it's just kind of wanted to know what the goals were was [10:21] the goal if we want ownership of it that's fine but the goal was improving [10:25] the rideability maybe there's another option site toing it [10:29] comment yes okay my understanding from our meeting was that the purpose of this [10:36] was for me to put together study group and to [10:40] determine uh what the pluses and minuses were for City acquisition of this or [10:49] state retention of it and if it was for the city at what point in time would [10:57] that decision have to be made because obviously the state because you're going [11:03] to rebuild that Highway probably go soon and my understanding is that [11:09] nothing would happen anyway until after the state had [11:14] rebilt so uh the impression I had was that you [11:21] wanted me and the council wanted me to go out and collect the best minds and [11:25] information I can to provide information both ways right yeah so that we can make [11:33] an decision I think the points that he's made are well made and I don't [11:42] disagree but uh to be objective about it you know I think you have to consider [11:47] both sides and all the pluses and minuses that [11:51] may uh you but anyway did it am I tracking is [11:57] that what we were want to accomplish here or did I [12:03] misunderstand I think that's [12:07] what that's what I remember that's a good direction yeah yeah okay so I'll [12:13] I'll task myself I guess to uh help to bring bring together that study group [12:19] and we'll probably take different people at different times you know because it's [12:23] hard to getbody one room at one time and try to get input in all that regard [12:31] obviously big key is [12:36] State any I don't know if that helps it mayor what what I'm hearing in in my [12:43] words is I hear Ed and Wayne kind of saying [12:46] the same thing it's more of a we're exploring what those options are for [12:51] Highway 28 as opposed to the goal being to take over right the goal is [12:57] information the goals information yeah making an [13:02] informed decision yes I think we need to make the [13:06] informed decision whether or not to take it right yeah yes [13:12] sir I think part of what you said at the department had meeting the other day uh [13:17] mayor mentioned he felt like it was the [13:20] overall condition of Road the goal is to have Highway 28 approved so that when we [13:25] do a community survey and our citizens say hey the drivability of a bunch of [13:28] our streets are in bad condition Highway 28 is our major [13:34] highest travel roadway in town currently it's not any part of our [13:40] decision on when that gets approved so you were just saying overall [13:45] improve drivability yeah of the highway [13:50] yeah and maybe that's part of that well yeah that's right take a look at it see [14:01] so so we might even think differently about [14:05] what because this says so we might think the big goal is [14:11] improve dve how we get there get to be deter [14:17] determined and ownership might be the answer other things [14:24] might about explore options for Highway 28 improve [14:31] drivability it's just we want drivability [14:36] period like that's [14:42] so fure now for some reason my memory [14:48] serves [14:51] that I feel like Jackie was one of the most outspoken on this particular item [14:56] well I disagree because would never [15:02] she would appreciate that comment I'm sure she could she couldn't be here [15:07] today I do remember she specifically brought that up as um as something that [15:13] she wanted to address and she couldn't be here she was traveling she had a [15:16] business thing that uh she just made it so she could be on the [15:22] meeting so I feel like maybe that's even something we if she gets a chance to [15:26] watch this maybe she could give us some additional feedback there are definitely [15:29] some reasons why [15:33] right and you know I think the trafficability was one of them also [15:39] Aesthetics was another one you know and Community improvements I there all kinds [15:45] of but you know you have to wave both ways right and the question is you know [15:53] even even if we acquired that Highway would we still be able to do the things [15:57] we want to do that's a question [16:03] too so those are the questions we have answered but I would say if a person [16:08] wants to sharpen the guidance on that it probably wouldn't hurt [16:12] anybody but that's that's how [16:18] I Lindsay did you get a good rewarding of [16:21] that um I think so I think we'll get some feedback from Jackie first and then [16:27] possibly either just ask add improve drivability to the statement or change [16:33] it to exploring options for Highway 28 to improve [16:37] drivability we could probably um we could email Brian and Jackie both that's [16:42] not a quorum so we could email both of them and say hey if you wouldn't mind [16:46] you know watch this segment they know about the background all that good stuff [16:50] but we can get them to this point where they can listen to this conversation and [16:53] then they can give us some feedback as well and ultimately we'll come back to [16:57] council and explain what what the result of that is be [17:06] good Wayne does that give you some comfort of yeah very much I like it you [17:11] thought we were gonna own that baby tomorrow oh [17:19] no there's been some a lot of conversation about that I think I can [17:23] hear well enough that I heard some reservations [17:29] yeah yeah I like the idea of exploring it more [17:36] yeah anything [17:40] else we go to the next topic Item B uh businesses with online sales only so [17:47] Council may recall that we discussed a local entrepreneur that is starting an [17:52] online sales business uh his business model did not originally include an [17:57] immediate buildout of the storefront uh he had hoped to get the business [18:01] going and then add a storefront at a later date and this has caus some [18:05] frustration uh main issue to discuss tonight is if the city would be willing [18:10] to adjust our zoning ordinance to allow online retail businesses in certain [18:16] commercial districts without a storefront so staff had difficulty [18:21] reconciling this as it distribution issue to discuss tonight is if the sorry [18:28] muted somebody okay thank [18:33] you there's the [18:40] cther there's a [18:47] few uh okay staff had difficulty reconciling [18:52] reconciling this as it appear to be more of a distribution center rather than a [18:56] retail uh storefront zoning ordinance does not specifically call out an online [19:03] retail sales business while this is a short summary Luke do you have some [19:08] additional clarification I don't I do know that [19:12] Blake is here tonight if you'd like him to give any more clarification but I [19:16] feel like you summarized it well sure Blake you wanna come up and sure if you [19:23] if you want to if you don't that's fine well just a recap kind of what yeah come [19:28] on up and state your name and address SCH 3147 perero [19:34] Drive um yeah so I I have an online I've had [19:38] an online business for for a while that I've that I've ran and now it's just [19:43] it's more of a focus for me so I own the old Fairway building so I got a permit [19:49] to build 4500 square feet of it is is basically office [19:56] space product storage space whatever like Works Space for me and my business [20:01] there so um as a start now the rest of it is just you know it's the old grocery [20:07] store building so I mean it's just basically a warehouse building sitting [20:12] there already so yeah my issue was is I wanted to permit I just want to get the [20:17] permit to use the whole entire building and while my business fits you know it's [20:23] a hobby business so it fits the c012 designation C to you know see why I [20:31] couldn't go into the go into the space so and I ran into obstacles because [20:36] because I'm not open to the public I was told I had to go into C3 so which seems [20:43] maybe I'm more of the extrem you know looking at it and being able to reflect [20:47] on it for for a couple weeks here but you know you might [20:52] have you know Mona store somebody that you know like sells clothes you know [20:57] might have people come into the store but mainly does it online like are you [21:00] going to go tell them that they got to go into a warehouse Building and find a [21:03] thousand square feet to to lease out a warehouse building and they could you [21:08] know fill a vacant space and okay well what we were talking about was all [21:12] Fairway building and how it's C2 right now appropriate uses in C2 and repeating [21:18] myself a little bit uh it's I think it it's clear in the zoning code that C2 [21:23] does not allow warehousing as we're talking about here uh [21:29] uh I believe the definition of warehousing is also clear that this is a [21:32] form of warehousing receiving orders and storing property to be sent out uh for [21:37] online sales uh what I was saying is that I'm not telling the council whether [21:44] they should allow this or not but in order to permit this [21:48] uh they you know the development department was correct in saying that [21:53] you couldn't have that use currently what zoning is and uh the downside to it [22:00] I think was kind of what I was addressing also I mean I could certainly [22:03] talk about upsides and downsides the downsides to this is certainly that this [22:06] is a dedicated commercial area and uh just like any type of zoning uh you know [22:12] whether you know it's it's it's a bank or it's a medical [22:18] facility when they locate someplace they kind of depend on the neighbors too [22:21] being the same use uh so could the council rezone it uh we'd have to look [22:28] at and see what the cooperat plan says but yeah legally there's a way that you [22:32] could probably get it reson to allow this purpose [22:36] um but you you still have all the arguments regarding spot zoning and [22:41] everything like that and we've already turned down in this area businesses in [22:45] the past number of years that were you know a commercial use that wasn't an [22:51] industrial use so um yeah storage facility there was a [22:57] doggy care facility that wasn't allowed there uh but with that being said [23:04] currently our code would not allow this and I agree with the development [23:07] department with their answer that no you can't do that and if they sold on the [23:11] site if they had a walk in Custer and sold product would that me [23:16] commercial if it was a clearly a commercial use yeah I mean you couldn't [23:20] just window dress it and say oh yeah we got a we got a door over there and let's [23:23] put ours you know based upon appointment only I mean if it's a legitimate [23:27] business you can't you know dress it up as a [23:30] business not have it be a legitimate commercial site um it's it's got to be a [23:35] legitimate business and you know what's the definition of that you know I can't [23:39] tell you what that is but you know when you see it I mean if uh because clearly [23:43] it already looks like a commercial building so it wouldn't be that hard to [23:45] say okay I'm commercial we're open for business whenever we get a customer that [23:48] decides they want to come in and you they happen to have a customer come in [23:51] and I'm not saying that that that's what's going on here but you know [23:54] clearly there's a difference here commercial uses intended [23:59] for Onsite [24:03] transactions you know with maybe some sales I mean like O'Reilly certainly I'm [24:07] sure they probably have some orders where they send off parts places uh and [24:12] I'm sure there's other commercial people that do that as incidental to the main [24:17] business but incidental the main use the main use is a commercial [24:21] use if there was a walk-in business there that was a viable part of the [24:26] business that was probably see more reasonable yeah with a commercial use [24:32] there's a certain alloud amount of storage in the back whether you want to [24:37] call it warehousing or storage there's a certain percentage of storage that's [24:41] allowed within the building when it's a commercial use uh clearly not all of it [24:45] can be out front when it was fair away there's a certain amount of storage in [24:49] the back and like I said O'Reilly has a large portion probably half their [24:52] building is storage in the back uh but you know that storage needs to be [24:57] incidental to the main commercial use it can't be a warehouse that might have a [25:04] cash register from that's incidental to the main use which is [25:08] Warehouse so [25:11] uh could we right now the way our code's written it doesn't necessarily talk [25:17] about internet sales it doesn't talk about internet businesses uh certainly [25:21] that can be addressed I think most of those internet businesses I think we [25:24] probably have a lot of them in town out of houses is that certainly those are [25:28] allowed to be sold out of houses and uh but uh right now could we put in [25:36] definitions that maybe help the code a little bit on internet sales yeah we [25:39] don't have something in there that says internet sales at this point in time but [25:42] we do have something called called warehousing which fits this definition [25:45] when you you know if you got packages that you sell online and ship [25:53] out other cities anybody investigate what they've done with this [26:00] uh I guess there hasn't been an investigation of but know this it's [26:05] warehousing I it's pretty cut and dry I mean it's cut and dry what it is and [26:10] this property's been zoned this way for a number of years now [26:15] yeah that original store right what 10 15 years ago yeah [26:23] obviously Fairway is a huge draw for that whole [26:25] area now it's not there that's right and [26:32] so it's a bad idea to do it because as it was put out by staff as well you can [26:39] get a bunch of Internet [26:43] businesses full activity yeah except for vehicles coming in picking up stuff once [26:48] while whatever delivery which could harm though last [26:53] person left that's actually retail cost of it would be I think [26:59] industrial warehousing cheaper I could be wrong about that but maybe the new [27:04] stuff more concerned about even old detail areas too that could go in there [27:09] that'd be kind of the death Mill to an area [27:14] that [27:17] nobody it's cheaper I would guess have retail in there as opposed to [27:22] internet thing where just not bringing anybody around [27:29] yeah I would imagine if you talk to the businesses along that strip they've [27:32] already been impacted somehow by Fair Way not being there right uh you know if [27:38] that ends up being a long-term situation where there's no traffic in there it [27:42] would be a long-term effect versus a temporary effect when another for [27:46] another Commercial Business to come in but I think those are all kind of things [27:50] that Council would want to discuss if they were inclined to do a zoning change [27:54] or zoning amendment process for changing zoning would be not UNAM you know unlike [28:01] other ones that we've seen where you know Council can initiate a resoning on [28:04] their own that pnz look at it or the property owner can get a petition that [28:09] satisfies the requirements uh [28:13] to to require a zoning consideration to go to pnz consideration if it's not in [28:20] line with our comprehensive plan well the council can't change that zoning [28:23] unless comprehensive plan was also amended and I think that's the same [28:25] process you've seen on the two items that were removed from the agenda today [28:30] uh we had a couple that were removed for resoning where where we had a petition [28:35] but it's also not in line with the comprehensive plan I think the owners of [28:37] that property want to kind of regroup and look at it again before it went [28:41] forward uh it's possible that the owner might [28:47] decide to configure that business so it might be able to be in that kind of an [28:53] area but that's entirely up to them I think and I this more hearsay from [29:02] talking to the development department was that originally I think there was a [29:04] plan submitted where there was going to be multiple retail businesses in there [29:10] with maybe storage in the back that was warehousing I think the indication was [29:14] okay might do that as long as you have the retail Parts out front but uh then [29:19] there'll be indep independent uh occupancy permits you know as the [29:24] building built out in pods or whatever you call it in [29:28] but uh I think that's changed at some point in [29:34] time I know that um Luke Paris is on and he I don't know if he has additional [29:41] comments or not but I know that in my discussions with Blake I think there [29:45] were a couple things I don't know if I'm going to hit them just right Blake but [29:48] I'm gonna try to pass them along is one of the concerns [29:52] was there there's a plan at some point in time in the future to have a [29:57] storefront now I think you're actually moving forward with the storefront but [30:01] we still wanted to to bring up the issue um but I believe part of the [30:06] requirement to achieve approval and accomplish what he's wanting to do [30:10] immediately is if you install a storefront then you're able to check [30:14] that box you're meeting that requirement of the [30:20] code so I think that he's you're moving forward of that to put in the [30:25] storefront it's still because you're saying limit on storage if you have a [30:31] storefront no percentage right from [30:37] a from a real General perspective then somebody might say well how much time [30:42] and effort does the city put in to make sure that storefront is [30:46] active and so somebody kind of has to I'm not saying this coming from like [30:50] this is just more running through my own mind uh just to fully think through it [30:56] is if there's a the president of a storefront but there's not a lot of [31:00] traffic very minimal but then you kind of feel bad [31:05] from a government perspective saying hey do these things even though it's a you [31:11] know I think I'd probably feel more comfortable if the if the owner worked [31:16] with the staff to see if there was a way to legitimately accomplish what he's [31:22] after I mean it's possible we'd like to have some other businesses in there too [31:29] you know what I mean not just your business but some other businesses in [31:33] with you that may be sub you know [31:38] um but we've gota I I think we owe it to the other businesses in area to keep [31:45] that area viable as much as we can because they invested you know they [31:52] came in right they invested and they believed that it was [31:56] zoned this way it was going to stay that and that there was going to be traffic [32:00] in now I mean I you know we can only control we can control right so we [32:06] couldn't control the the store movement and they needed a bigger area any so [32:13] that's a big change right big change for those [32:17] businesses so now if we just say oh we're just going to reone it I think [32:22] we'd be kicking the legs out from under all those businesses and their [32:26] Investments it just doesn't seem like a good idea to me on the other hand I I [32:31] would like to accommodate the person that owns the property I mean I would [32:36] like to do that because we need people to invest in the community so I'd like [32:42] to see if if you're interested trying to [32:47] work on a way to to make it work what would it take to make it [32:53] work so we're not letting down those other businesses we're satisfying our [32:58] code he can work in with what it is that he [33:03] needs and I and I believe for the most part you have figured out a way working [33:08] with staff of how to accomplish what you want to do but also meet the intent [33:13] spirit and intent of the zoning ordinance so I think they've got [33:23] there so so you think it sits right now where it would be without change in [33:30] Z right this is um during discussions with Blake it was hey a last ditch [33:37] effort before you have to go down that path of installing the storefront would [33:40] be to come to council for some alternative [33:44] Direction and that that's why we're having the discussion if if the end [33:48] result is Council says Hey the ordinance covers it as best we [33:53] can please follow that guidance from staff that's one alternative other [33:58] alternative would to say staff hey tell you what take this to pnz and explore [34:01] making a change of ordinance to allow what he wants to do those are kind of [34:05] the two two options and I think you're looking at my building is like a [34:10] different scale right so like 26,500 feet a lot different some a th [34:16] square feet that might want to have a business that's similar to mine they [34:20] just don't need right so much space in an area they might need a little less [34:25] space I mean you're excluding them too so I just [34:29] I think that's the reason for the discussion is is are we really excluding [34:33] everybody that might you know need space that's more [34:37] retail but it's online versus versus you know open to the public all the time so [34:45] what where are you where you find that balance like what balance does the city [34:51] want it's a little my personal opinion right is [34:58] traffic Walkin traffic to draw Walkin traffic because I think that contributes [35:04] to those other businesses in that area and I'm sure that that grocery store did [35:08] there's no doubt in my mind right so when it left then that traffic volume is [35:16] greatly reduced you know and I think those businesses suffered a little bit [35:21] because of that so I would like to end in a place [35:26] where we have some level of volume coming into that building traffic right [35:34] of people and cars driving by the other businesses I think I'll have lunch or I [35:40] want a taco or whatever it is right but it would be helpful to the other [35:45] businesses too that's why I'm at I'm just [35:54] one I don't know what you guys think to I feel your way be a [36:01] [Music] [36:09] streeta yeah but we don't control the kind of I mean you know right well [36:13] you're trying to tell me I need traffic in my building in order to I I don't [36:17] care what you do in that building as long as it's legal right but I want [36:20] traffic in that building if it's in that zoned area you understand what I'm [36:23] saying it just might I mean it's nothing going to replace the traic so no that's [36:29] true but we don't have to we need to be smart too right that's all I'm saying [36:35] right so I mean you knew that was Zone that way when you bought it [36:40] right yeah yeah [36:45] okay that's why at I don't know what everybody else think I feel the same [36:52] way the bigger picture standpoint I think we need to consider not having [36:57] Internet sales in C2 District not just this one piece but just [37:06] period it's already excluded though right [37:09] Elliot so yeah right now warehousing is excluded so you I think the definition [37:17] of warehousing clearly fits when it's something that's exclusively internet [37:23] [Music] sales okay [37:28] and the reason why I wored it that way but you could have a hobby store that [37:31] their main business is or gun store their main business is to sell a retail [37:36] product out of their out of their store except you might still have some [37:41] internet sales involved I like I say it would the warehousing has to be [37:44] incidental to the main Commercial Business not the other way when [37:50] incidental that means the primary purpose shouldn't be warehousing the [37:53] primary purpose should be a commercial use which is not [38:03] warehousing you know similar to maybe I'm talking too much but it's similar to [38:08] home business now you know home businesses are allowed under Iowa Co but [38:12] you can't move somebody out of the home and make it a home business still have [38:16] to be legal I mean the primary use of that structure is still it's somebody's [38:20] home and so the primary use on that home and a home business is incidental to be [38:25] in a home so somebody couldn't decide to open up for instance an internet sales [38:30] thing out of their basement which legally they cancel out as their home [38:33] but if they move out they can't turn that building into exclusive warehousing [38:37] and internet [38:41] sales so what I'm hearing is is that there's no there's no desire to look at [38:47] to changing zoning to allow internet business in a C2 area right correct you [38:54] good with that okay [39:01] do we need anything else we need to go no okay uh item C is talking about [39:09] Beggar's Night I think uh Brian wanted to talk about that since Brian's not [39:13] here I think we'll remand that over to the next work [39:18] session good with that all [39:23] right okay [39:31] were we supposed to [39:35] decide or were we just having a conversation work that's [39:41] conversation I I would think that what would happen is if it was something that [39:45] wanted to actually bring on to an agenda item at the end of the meeting when [39:50] council members make motions to have it appear on a future agenda item certainly [39:54] council member could ask that put on there for official decision or official [40:00] deliberation well I do it's always difficult when you have an actual human [40:06] being invol [40:12] yes when you think about how that play what's intended there um that's not [40:22] it and that's not a personal thing like just that's sure and you know you can [40:30] you could make an exception because we're like I like that guy and doesn't [40:34] seem like we're really you know nobody's really buying that spot and you know [40:38] putting something in there with the kind of traffic We Wish It [40:41] Would um but it's when you begin to play that out that it's like really in [40:48] general do we like that idea no know and so it's uh I think there are times for [40:58] ceptions right it's deciding whether or not this is a the right spot the right [41:07] time or something that we would say we're we're fine without [41:14] exception and I I feel like what I heard George say is we sure would love to try [41:23] and figure out hold out hope for a business that would draw [41:33] traffic [41:36] right good to move on okay item number five welcome guest [41:41] and public comment thank you for being here tonight participating in the [41:43] meeting uh we'll open up the de for comment if you want to address uh myself [41:50] or city councils uh this would be for non-agenda items give you three minute [41:55] time limit realize we can't take action on on those on what you're talking about [41:58] tonight because they aren't on the agenda and that would be talking about [42:02] them then would be in violation of open meetings law also I'd like to comment on [42:07] any item in the consent agenda now would be the time so anybody any [42:11] takers I'm only going to look for takers within the room [42:16] this maybe this is a good time to say it just so you know anybody that's showing [42:20] up asking for Access yes I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that [42:24] we posted on social media the link immediately before we got started that [42:30] we're getting so many of them so I'm communicating with anybody any [42:34] participant in the waiting room to get feedback on what agenda item they're [42:39] here for and letting them know that they can access the meeting via YouTube [42:43] stream that's awesome um Barry is still trying to join so I've asked Elliot to [42:48] let him know to try via calling so you may see a phone number pop up there 614 [42:54] area code 614 are [42:59] uh so just as a sideline Lindsay if you look at the host [43:06] tools button there's only two things I'm allow I've allowed that's chat and to [43:13] unmute themselves okay I think for now that would be okay okay [43:21] but if we want to there we go uh we want to pull pull off unmute [43:28] themselves we can do that some [43:36] I okay that was sure [43:41] fun uh item number six consent agenda can I get a motion to approve the [43:45] consent agenda motion second okay motion by Co seconded by Min key Lindsay would [43:51] you please call R council member Brown yes K yes miniki yes right Mo carries [43:57] item seven old a new business for consideration discussion and possible [44:01] action item a is a continuation of a public hearing regarding a zoning [44:06] amendment to amend the Maple Heights plan unit development regarding location [44:10] and type of residential uses so we'll continue the public hearing at [44:14] 659m Elliot I'm gonna let you take this one and I'm gonna pass the Baton off to [44:19] Paris if he's audible I am you all can hear me yes okay so uh I'm on Zoom [44:25] appreciate the option to do this I've got to step out to my son's band concert [44:29] here in a bit so um but I wanted to walk through this I've worked a lot with uh [44:33] Lone Tree on getting this uh ready so they can take their next steps in [44:38] development um we have the Lone Tree folks online as well um to answer some [44:43] questions and there's a couple aspects of this that um maybe warrant some [44:48] discussion and really some decision points um so want to start with uh [44:54] really this is looking at uh a few different things um firstly it's mainly [45:00] identifying where some specific use types will be if you can go into the [45:05] ordinance um we can take a look at some maps um but it's identifying some Ali [45:10] loaded product uh in the northern side of the development uh a town home area [45:16] some traditional single family areas um and then uh again just increasing some [45:22] numbers of those types um if you could go down Luke to page I believe it's [45:27] 26 so I included in the staff report the uh original PUD just uh if anyone wanted [45:33] to reference that um but let's go down and take a look at that initial map um [45:39] sorry it was a long document um but there you go uh go back up to the parcel [45:44] map the one right above that I guess it was [45:47] 25 so um right now the Pud uh we're primarily in this amendment talking [45:53] about parcel B yeah maybe you can open it up and turn it there I'm we're [45:59] talking about parcel B and parcel F and while Luke gets that uh oriented [46:04] correctly uh partiel B in the original PUD allowed for a mix of densities R1 R2 [46:11] and R3 and then parcel F and parcel B was on the west end of the project [46:17] parcel uh I'm sorry parcel B was West End parcel F was a traditional single [46:22] family uh type uh zoning development um and that was on the far East End of the [46:28] project and the pond kind of separates the two so we're just talking about [46:32] refining kind of what the land uses are here and what projects and things might [46:36] go there uh if you scroll down to that next map that's kind of sideways you can [46:40] see what their kind of initial layout was there were some town homes that were [46:43] kind of on the exterior of the development some of those allei loaded [46:47] products in the center on the and that's all on the west side and then on the [46:50] east side you get over to more of a traditional Suburban single family [46:54] development um but again with some uh options to do some of that R2 or R3 [47:00] stuff on the far East End so if we jump back up to I believe it's page uh [47:05] seven um or I'm sorry eight um one page off today um page eight is the layout [47:14] that they're proposing and what we've done is um to get granular with what the [47:19] different develops are parcel B we've split into two so it's parcel B1 and B2 [47:26] um and then the rest of the west side of the development gets zoned as parcel f [47:32] um so to talk quick about B1 B1 is that uh uh what do we call it [47:39] uh Aly loaded Villa project project and so what you see there um is a public [47:45] Street to the south of B1 and then there's a public Street to the West that [47:50] goes up with paral a and then there would be private drives that came [47:55] between these units um and then the other areas so like that [48:00] would be a private drive but then the kind of opposing one which might [48:04] normally be a public Street would be a green space with a walkway so um some of [48:09] these units would face out to a public Street to the uh Far West and then the [48:14] other all the other units would have kind of a front door that goes out to a [48:17] green space with their uh access to their property on the The [48:23] Alley um from like a car access um the other thing in parcel B is uh you see [48:29] the north side of that development has a bunch of smaller lots and then there's [48:33] kind of an area that's right above parcel c um we do allow for some [48:38] traditional Town Homes to be in parcel B1 um in those two areas um just because [48:44] of the shape of everything and the layout it worked better that way so [48:47] that's B1 then partiel B2 is a more traditional Town Home Development again [48:53] uh alley loaded so things have uh uh car access to the alley um the space [49:01] in between things um in kind of in the center of B2 is again another Greenway [49:06] walkway path um that provides access to every uh unit from a walking [49:12] perspective um and again those are just traditional town home similar to what [49:17] you will'll probably see in the Brownstones or or lots of our other uh [49:21] town home developments um and then parcel F which is the remainder of this [49:26] original partial B on the west side of the development is uh single family um [49:32] so that went to just a normal um single family lot for what parcel F was um and [49:38] then if you can go to the east side of the [49:42] development um we didn't change parcel F over there but we did um definitively [49:47] call out that parcel F can also have some duplex units some R2 duplex units [49:52] and those are shown ghosted in there on the far East side of parcel F those [49:57] smaller Lots um so that's really the how the layout of the development is [50:02] changing with this PUD request um the other two points that are included if [50:08] you go back over to parcel B1 um the developer has asked for some [50:14] variations to what our garage requirement would be for a single family [50:17] unit so for a single family unit we typically require a two-car garage um [50:23] only in partial B1 they're asking for the ability to have uh units that have [50:29] no garage a onecar garage a twocc car garage or or more a three-car garage [50:34] potentially um so that's different than what our code would have um right now uh [50:40] the ordinance before you does call out um that that can happen so that's how [50:48] we've written the ordinance um let me I got to get to the right spot in my sheet [50:55] um the way it's work Ed is that uh each unit is required to have a garage uh or [51:03] 75% of the units are required to have a garage and uh no more than three uh [51:10] units without a garage can be adjacent to one another so we're trying to [51:13] understand that we don't want to have a bunch of the no car garages all in one [51:17] spot um so that you know there maybe only be three in a row um um and then [51:23] you know again a minimum of those B1 units minimum of 75% of them have to [51:28] have a garage um with any town home that's shown in B1 or B2 um they're not [51:34] requesting for no car garage stuff so any of those would have a single or a [51:38] double car garage which is what our code currently requires for a town home um so [51:42] that's garages and then the last thing that we [51:46] have here is talking about adus and um we've had a lot of good discussion with [51:52] uh uh lry and staff and pnz we had some good discussion about it um and really I [52:00] think and I'll let them maybe talk from their side more from this the staff side [52:05] and I think even when the city approved this PUD there was a desire to um really [52:11] look at having an 8 Adu somewhere we'd had a a resident come in and ask the [52:15] city to allow them on Residential Properties by right and we kind of felt [52:19] like that was maybe jumping too far into the deep end and then this opportunity [52:24] presented itself and we thought well that would be a good place to give it a [52:28] try in dwalk would be a brand new development um one of the conditions [52:34] that we put in this PUD originally was that the Adu had to be owner occupied um [52:39] or rather that the lot had to be owner occupied for them to be able to uh use [52:43] an Adu um from the development standpoint and and jamus or Jenny can [52:48] talk more about this there were just some concerns that you know they [52:52] wouldn't be able to Market that or or that it wouldn't work for them from a [52:55] business standpoint of selling somebody a property with an Adu and then if that [53:00] person wants to then move to a bigger property or move on in Norwalk or or do [53:05] something now they don't have the right to rent out the house and the Adu um so [53:11] that's something to talk about I think they're willing to uh give the adus a [53:16] try in B1 um if we can come to an agreement on how that language be [53:22] written right now the uh what pnz recommended and what's in the [53:27] uh PUD would allow for adus um without being owner occupied uh main unit on the [53:34] lot so that's kind of where we sit with that um they can uh talk a little bit [53:40] more on their side uh about their thoughts on that but I think [53:44] collectively it's just a matter of we're willing to do what council wants to do [53:47] on this one from a staff perspective we think it would be a a good thing to try [53:51] as far as housing affordability goes and and housing diversity but uh certainly [53:58] um understand if if there's concerns about that so with that um I will answer [54:03] any questions and I know lry is on the line as [54:09] well I think it's a good [54:13] idea so it's Innovative it's it's it's something new uh you know our good [54:20] friends at pnz you know recommended it that always matters to me I'm not saying [54:25] we got to go along with them but we asked them to do a job they've done it [54:30] and I'm sure they took this very seriously I think staff is also probably [54:35] excited about this as well um yeah it's it's different it's Unique and [54:43] um I'm I'm glad we've got a developer that's you know saying hey we'd like to [54:48] try something like [54:54] this yeah I know Bri is not going to buy one of those houses that doesn't have a [55:00] garage but okay however I have to go wander down wakanda they trying to cut [55:06] across country and saw some houses but didn't have garages and there I know [55:11] there's some on that east side of town that doesn't have garages so I don't [55:14] have a big problem with not having garages I think they're going to put a a [55:17] slab Park cars I believe so it's not so much on street parking am I correct on [55:23] that l [55:31] yes F he was available for questions but he was [55:35] kid hear them so yeah then the ad I think that's yeah I get the idea that [55:42] you can't de they own it or rent it yeah you manage that so yeah I'm I think it's [55:49] a good idea I recall the discussion we had [55:55] earlier uh uh in an earlier design because I know you know we traveled [56:00] Eastern is we were looking for uh different designs for how we might put [56:09] developments together for a portability as well as [56:14] loil and we decided that a new development would be the best place to [56:20] try that [56:23] experimentation might not work real well in [56:29] just so I don't have any problem with this because of that now the [56:35] question about owning and renting I don't know quite how you make [56:41] that I mean you can say that first first the [56:48] to but can you really put a tie bar on an owner not being able to rent [56:54] something out of that gets into all those private [56:58] property issues I think they let that [57:06] out I think they left that out should be it could be a renter or or a investor or [57:14] an owner yeah it's it's difficult for a city to legislate own or occupy it only [57:19] and fact there's some pretty direct State statutes that prohibit us from [57:23] doing that uh certainly a developer can put whatever restrictions [57:29] they want on it themselves uh so if they were to put restricted confidence on it [57:34] saying owner owner occupied only they could certainly do that so if we move [57:39] this as it sits right now that would not be a requirement in that's right I think [57:44] the pz's recommendation was not to have an owner occupied [57:49] requirement relating to that that's correct the uh the way the ordinance is [57:54] worded right now would allow for adus without the primary residents being [57:59] owner occupied was there a reason for that [58:03] Luke the reason for why we have it it now was uh that's kind of what the [58:09] lundry Development Group uh suggested they would need to feel comfortable [58:13] building them yeah and and you and Elliot are [58:18] good with that correct [58:24] okay I kind of excited to see what they come up [58:28] with I mean looks like a lot of variety of housing types [58:33] here and it's pretty well divided up the way they've got green spaces in the pond [58:38] there you know and I don't hear the Public Works [58:43] director going crazy about the private streets [58:49] so all right Lindsay have we received any oral written comments on this we [58:54] have not okay we have public comment on [59:01] this hearing none I'm going to close public caring at 7:14 p.m. item 7B is [59:07] the first reading of an ordinance amending the official zoning map of the [59:11] city of nor Iowa by amending the Maple Heights plan unit development regarding [59:15] location and type of residential uses we just had a public hearing on this [59:18] amendment to the Maple Heights PUD luk or Elliott do you have anything to add [59:24] nothing else unless there's questions I'll answer him this time discussion [59:28] from Council [59:32] public he none can I get a motion to approve first reading as presented [59:37] motion second okay Co seconded by Brown Lindy would you call roll council member [59:42] Co yes yes Brown yes all right motion carries item seven C it's continuation [59:50] of public hearing regarding an amendment to The Orchard Hills planned unit [59:53] development related to high density resid itial and neighborhood commercial [59:57] uses in PUD land use parcel one so we're going to continue the public hearing at [1:00:02] 7:15 p.m. lcer Elliott I'm gonna let you take this one yep so I'll go ahead and [1:00:08] do this one um request here this is the one that Barry account is is uh is on [1:00:14] the call for so 614 area code he told me he's good so um we'll proceed with this [1:00:20] one um I'm I'm kind of looking at item 7D while talking about this um basically [1:00:28] we got a request for a PUD amendment in Orchard Hills PUD parcel one um the [1:00:35] current Orchard Hills PUD allows for R4 high density or C1 uses uh but requires [1:00:43] an amendment to the Pud affirming said uses whatever they end up being so um [1:00:50] the request tonight mostly deals with the southern 2.75 Acres which is just [1:00:56] over half of the parcel and the request is to allow for the construction of the [1:01:02] concept you see before you which is a 62 and [1:01:06] up residential project with h two row [1:01:11] houses um the buildings that are oriented north south and then a three [1:01:16] unit um R4 building with an elevator um [1:01:22] oriented East West this concept originally had [1:01:26] the larger building Ora north south directly adjacent to Orchard Hills Drive [1:01:33] they decided to revise the concept and bring bring this one back uh to pnz um [1:01:40] so pnz reviewed and approved this one um something that's worth noting as far as [1:01:45] the rezoning technically as a PUD amendment being a rezoning this is in [1:01:50] our future land use map as new urbanism so something that we wanted to have them [1:01:55] do is put the park behind the building Froning the street [1:01:59] and so we designed setback regulations to allow for that um that's what they've [1:02:03] produced here so um staff is pretty satisfied with the layout uh the one [1:02:10] thing that is a little bit different from typical Zoning for a property like [1:02:15] this is they have 72 parking spaces while code normally would require [1:02:20] 96 um I believe with Alice place that was kind of the first senior project [1:02:25] where we looked at um doing a pretty significant cut to the [1:02:28] number of spaces needed in addition to uh amending our code to not require [1:02:33] garages for senior projects so if you're wondering about that element of the site [1:02:39] plan or excuse me the concept this is not a site plan um that explains [1:02:45] explains that piece uh the reason that we split this into Parcels 1 a and 1B is [1:02:51] because the first time this uh came to the attention of council [1:02:56] uh there there was emphasis on retaining commercial uses in the remaining ground [1:03:02] and so that's the way that I have written the amendment here to um [1:03:08] basically just keep that Northern 2.73 Acres the same as it is right now and [1:03:13] still require an amendment affirming a use there um the application is only for [1:03:20] the southern half and the owners of the remaining 2.73 Acres have decided not to [1:03:25] move forward with any more detailed amendments at this time so we're not [1:03:31] touching that it's just being cut off from parcel [1:03:36] 1B um Minor Detail in the staff report I found out while um earning my way up to [1:03:44] full-time employment with the city that a amendment to this PUD at some point [1:03:49] deleted the land use table for the entire Orchard Hills [1:03:53] development um and so so this thing is putting it back in there the way that it [1:03:59] was supposed to be you know originally from the beginning it was inadvertently [1:04:03] deleted so we're putting it back in there um along with this amendment so [1:04:08] I'm happy to take any questions and uh we do have representation for this item [1:04:13] here on the call [1:04:16] tonight does it Alice's Place seem to work with not as much [1:04:21] parking heard no complaints okay and like no [1:04:34] garages I like the design of it uh I thought the last Council me or Council [1:04:40] meting or two ago we talked about the north side as well and we restricted [1:04:46] that or maybe we just talk be commercial yeah be [1:04:51] commer but you're saying we're going to leave that open now or I TR the [1:04:56] applicants are not choosing to move forward with making that change right [1:05:00] now so we're just leaving that alone they will have to come back and do [1:05:03] another PUD Amendment at a future date to affirm uses there which they've we've [1:05:08] talked to them several times leading up to this meeting um Grant Wright who we [1:05:13] heard from earlier um is kind of spearheading the real estate side of [1:05:17] that so he's aware of I don't what the city's [1:05:22] expecting we made no decision at that time no okay okay thank you what can go [1:05:29] over in the panh handle an access easement for Public [1:05:34] Works to get to the water tower um [1:05:39] and if an accessory building of some sort will fit in there then that um it's [1:05:46] technically rear yard so um it's not a very wide envelope I think [1:05:52] it's about 45 feet in width my understanding is that's the geometry of [1:05:57] the site uh just to get the right amount of space under control for the [1:06:03] app okay so no apartment building could be put over there not with the current [1:06:10] PUD language though [1:06:14] okay but if we accept this P the way it is which [1:06:20] proposed then that could be right no so I wrote the uh the language I wrote for [1:06:27] this says that this concept will be predominantly followed at the site plan [1:06:31] stage so if if we get a site plan back showing four buildings we're going to [1:06:35] make him come back and do PUD Amendment just like what we're doing right [1:06:39] now good assume the city owns everything [1:06:45] South yeah so if you square this rectangle off the remaining space around [1:06:50] the water tower is public [1:06:54] ground l have we received any orally written comments on this we have not all [1:06:58] right any public [1:07:04] comment hearing none we're going to go ahead and close public hearing at 7:22 [1:07:08] PM item 7D is the first reading of an ordinance amending the master plan on [1:07:13] rules regulations and guidelines for the excuse me for the Orchard Hills plan [1:07:18] unit development as cont take in ordinance [1:07:23] 04-05 uh we just had a public hearing on this amendment to The Orchard Hills PUD [1:07:28] Elliot got anything to add any discussion from Council further [1:07:33] discussion or public [1:07:38] comment I get a motion to approve the first reading well I'm glad to hear that [1:07:42] it's nailed down what we're looking at there and that we can't be [1:07:47] surprised because I don't want to be surprised right like we were [1:07:51] before yep so I'll move this with that understand sounds good second all right [1:07:59] so motion by Co seconded by Min any further [1:08:04] discussion Lindsay would you call a council member miniki yes Brown yes cool [1:08:09] yes all right motion carries item seven e is a resolution initiating rezoning [1:08:15] referring the rezoning proposal to the Norwalk Planning and Zoning commission [1:08:18] and setting a public hearing regarding the proposed zoning Amendment to the [1:08:22] Norwalk zoning map by changing 7680 County Line Road from AR agricultur [1:08:27] Reserve to re1 rural Estates Elliot I'm going to let you take this one yep so [1:08:33] this is a property that was developed back in uh in a subdivision that was [1:08:37] approved I think 1978 and then subsequently annexed into the city so it [1:08:42] defaulted to a zoning the owners want to do an expansion to the house that a [1:08:47] zoning setbacks don't allow um it was developed in a in a in a in a fashion [1:08:54] that resembles re1 rural Estates so if we rezone to that class they would have [1:08:59] enough setback space to do their expansion all right any discussion [1:09:04] Council or public comment I get a motion to approve moot [1:09:12] second motion by Mani seconded by Co any further [1:09:18] discussion Lindsay would you call the role council member miniki yes Brown yes [1:09:23] cool yes all right carries item 7f resolution initiating rezoning referring [1:09:29] the rezoning proposal to the norock Planning and Zoning commission and [1:09:32] setting a public hearing regarding the proposed zoning Amendment to the Norwalk [1:09:37] zoning map by changing 1421 Sunset Drive from C2 Community commercial to IP [1:09:44] infield plan unit development with C2 uses Elliot yep so this properties is at [1:09:49] the southwest corner of high road and Sunset Drive it's where the Rodney [1:09:54] Albert's house uh was demoed within the last 30 days or [1:09:58] so um currently Zone C2 so the setbacks take up about 94% of the parcel area um [1:10:06] in order for it to be redeveloped we've got to get creative so we've got an [1:10:11] infill plan unit development ordinance drafted up that we're ready to take to [1:10:15] pnz if uh Council elects to S it there all [1:10:23] right discussion from Council public [1:10:32] comment and I get a motion to approve resolution as presented second motion by [1:10:37] Brown seconded by Min any further discussion Lindy would you please call [1:10:42] roll council member Brown yes cool yes Min yes all right motion carries I was [1:10:48] waiting for another one there's usually more [1:10:51] here uh item 7g as resolution accepting infrastructure and approving the final [1:10:57] plat Marketplace at Echo Valley plat 5 so all the infrastructures in place for [1:11:02] this we need to approve the final plat to create a buildable lot exactly that [1:11:08] any anything else uh I made an error by saying accepting infrastructure there's [1:11:14] nothing to accept so all right uh any discussion [1:11:20] councel or public [1:11:24] comment all right right can I get a motion to approve motion second [1:11:30] George motion by Co seconded by Brown any further [1:11:37] discussion ly call council member Co yes Min yes Brown yes all right motion [1:11:43] carries item 7 H resolution approving the site plan of Pizza Ranch our [1:11:49] previous action created the buildable lot where the new Pizza Ranch is going [1:11:52] to be constructed this is approving the site plan [1:11:55] Elliot yep so Pizza Ranch site plan um is that's the item um it's pretty [1:12:04] self-explanatory I think it's about a 12,000 foot building um I did a little [1:12:09] parking analysis in there kind of explaining how the the arcade space [1:12:13] inside there um we didn't feel it was appropriate to um factor that into the [1:12:18] parking calculation just because that's predominantly a use for people who don't [1:12:24] drive they're typically passengers so um we thought that made made sense to uh to [1:12:30] Omit that um something we' decided to be a bit more deliberate about in our staff [1:12:35] reports is anytime something that Council can wave is being proposed we're [1:12:41] starting to list that in staff reports so um the only thing that isn't [1:12:47] necessarily Zone and compliant but wable by Council would be the space count uh [1:12:51] for parking they're proposing a 100 rather than the typical 100 15 um we [1:12:56] think that's appropriate because Marketplace Drive was designed [1:13:00] specifically so that people could park on the street so we think that some of [1:13:04] the spaces adjacent to the site can factor into that [1:13:07] number um don't have a whole lot else to add other than um the folks working on [1:13:13] the architectural elevations did a good job indicating uh sight lines that's [1:13:18] something we don't see too often in some middles so that's good to see um and [1:13:24] I've got nothing further to add but happy to answer any questions if I can [1:13:28] all right discussion questions from Council or any public [1:13:35] imput so the treatment on this building will be similar to what's up there now [1:13:41] in that area I would imagine mostly um yeah mostly Stone [1:13:48] composits a little bit of engineered wood composite yeah [1:13:53] [Music] [1:13:59] any want to make anybody want to make a motion okay motion by mini seconded by [1:14:04] Co any further discussion lindsy would you call roll [1:14:09] council member mini yes Brown yes cool yes all right motion carries item 7 K [1:14:15] it's first reading of an ordinance amending chapter 92 water rates in [1:14:19] chapter 177 rates and fees providing for amended secondary water or irrigation [1:14:24] rates so irrigation continues to drive up [1:14:27] water usage within the metro area uh in summer as a metro area we use about two [1:14:33] times the amount of water than during winter uh also High nitrates lower the [1:14:39] amount of water that de Mo Waterworks can produce and we're running into Times [1:14:44] where we're looking at implementing water saving procedures it is very [1:14:48] costly to the overall Metro to create more capacity uh purpose of this rate [1:14:54] change is to offset the overall cost of producing more water we also realize [1:14:59] that a secondary positive impact is a possible decrease of water usage we are [1:15:04] asking Council to change our irrigation meter rates to an inclining block [1:15:08] schedule and to use that rate schedule all year round Jean I'll turn it over to [1:15:13] you okay thank you um as you know we have we charged $2 on top of the regular [1:15:19] rate right now two months out of the year um last year here again was about [1:15:25] 81 million gallons um in that two months [1:15:31] the was about 20 million so there's about $61 million of irrigation or [1:15:37] million gallons sorry of irrigation that we did not charge for um I think the [1:15:43] best way to put this is um on an average day we use the city entire city uses [1:15:51] about a million gallons during these high peak times when we're using [1:15:55] irrigation we use about 2 million gallons and of [1:16:00] our U 5,300 MERS about 1,200 of them are irrigation so [1:16:06] 22% of the people IR using irrigation are kind of um increasing the cost for [1:16:14] the entire city so we think it would make more sense to charge these uh [1:16:19] irrigation rates and the schedule I don't think we mentioned that um would [1:16:23] be 0 to6 ,000 gallons be 1.25 times the regular rate 6 to 9,000 gallons 1.5 [1:16:32] times the regular rate and above 9,000 would be two times the regular rate um [1:16:38] the main reason for doing this um is central Iowa [1:16:43] Waterworks not one of the it's just one of the additional reasons I should say [1:16:48] uh Central Iowa Waterworks is going to be doing an expansion the Sailor Ville [1:16:52] plant it's about 160 million 10 million of that will be norwalk's [1:16:59] portion you just think about a 20-year srf loan at 3% it's about 695,000 a year [1:17:07] we go a 30-year loans about 500,000 a year these rates just get us a little [1:17:12] bit closer to paying uh making those payments it doesn't cover it completely [1:17:17] um but will help in that regard and maybe hopefully people will pay [1:17:22] attention a little bit more um I'm sure there's some [1:17:26] overwatering that doesn't need to happen so just trying to offset those costs one [1:17:33] thing we did talk about and I'm not going to ask you to do it tonight [1:17:36] because I don't like to throw this on you but we charge an availability fee by [1:17:41] meter size we put that in place last April and through our discussions about [1:17:46] this uh we realized we only charge for one meter and we just charge whatever [1:17:51] the larger meter is so if they have a 3/4 in regular meter and a 1 in [1:17:56] irrigation meter we charge the availability fee only on that 1 in [1:18:01] meter we might be bringing back we have an availability fee for irrigation [1:18:06] meters as well as the base meter so that might be something to think about um I [1:18:10] calculated that would be another 130,000 would really help go toward [1:18:15] offsetting the costs that we are experiencing due to [1:18:20] irrigation and I know that um Finance work group reviewed this and admin [1:18:25] policy work group reviewed this and both recommended that we move [1:18:31] ahead you have any questions how did you how how did you [1:18:35] come up with the numbers there the one point two times rate 1.5 two times uh [1:18:45] you know we really just kind of made some comparisons with other cities yep [1:18:49] and um there's no consistency across the [1:18:54] board we thought we would ease into it and we thought you know if you only use [1:18:58] so many maybe not get uh dinged as much as someone who uses 20,000 so if you're [1:19:04] only using 5,000 to irrigate maybe you pay a little less than someone that uses [1:19:08] 20 we have some people that in the month of July we'll use 30,000 gallons for [1:19:12] irrigation what's the average use per household is there for irrigation or for [1:19:19] household usage household us overall I don't have that I don't have [1:19:25] that because you know what it es and flows from year to year yeah um you know [1:19:30] last year wasn't the beginning of the year was really wet uh it was less and [1:19:35] then toward the end of the year got really dry the year before was super dry [1:19:39] and um so I don't I don't really have that [1:19:43] number I'm I suppose maybe I'm wondering a little [1:19:48] bit I'm on the committee that talked about this so uh it's like um you [1:19:55] know is if if some people are using 20 to 30,000 like that's not [1:20:03] 9,000 and it's like so they're paying the same rate from nine to 50,000 [1:20:09] whatever they want so I'm wondering if the if there's partially a [1:20:16] goal of reducing water usage if [1:20:22] uh if we like if the rate would be even higher at [1:20:27] some point too because there's kind of like wow that's [1:20:33] excessive right I mean we're we're not really trying to penalize people who [1:20:37] irrigate um but we are just trying to recover our Cost U Pick this is maybe a [1:20:43] way to start looking at it see what happens the first year maybe we can [1:20:47] increase it after that what I'm thinking about there is let's say we we also want [1:20:52] to help people now not use as much water so like again it would be the creation [1:20:59] of some sort of fund that would be that that our residents could take advantage [1:21:05] of to like if they wanna do something to [1:21:11] their lawn that would reduce the need for water that we might be able to [1:21:17] be help like a some sort of a carrot there yeah we have talked about programs [1:21:25] we kind of have a program in place that Elliot overseas uh we don't get much um [1:21:32] traffic there we don't get many requests um like water barrels and soil control [1:21:38] soil Rion control and or rain barrels I should say it's like a soil um what's [1:21:44] the word I'm looking for where they soil quality restoration yes so we do have [1:21:50] some programs in place to encourage and if you do that restoration [1:21:55] you have more ideas then you end up with more top soil so you don't need as much [1:21:59] irrigation to keep that on so we do have that available okay yeah maybe it would [1:22:06] be matter of like if we wanted to make this a big deal overall to the city [1:22:13] there would almost be a marketing game plan that would be hey we want to help [1:22:20] people use less water for their for their laws [1:22:25] again that may be just too big of a discussion on [1:22:31] this why I could certainly talk to our um marketing and communication staff and [1:22:38] see if they could come up with some ideas on how to try to promote some of [1:22:41] those programs at the same time that these rates are going into [1:22:47] effect yeah and if we find then that they're being more used then maybe we [1:22:56] can think about how to make more dollars available I [1:23:01] suppose that'd be a good problem to have [1:23:08] yeah send me an email to remind me of this program because I might take [1:23:14] advantage of it because i' turned off my irrigation the last two years three [1:23:21] years now hit your water barrel and I mean the lawn in the back looks very [1:23:26] interesting by the end of the summer but it's I I can't believe how much I [1:23:32] would have to water to like keep it green yeah so it's like a loss [1:23:39] cause to add on to well go ahead I'm sorry you're done so to add on so that's [1:23:47] for the current for the Sailor bille expansion it's $160 million for 10 [1:23:52] million G 10 million gallons of water additional capacity the next expansion [1:23:58] will be another from what I understand is planned to be another 10 million [1:24:02] gallons of water per day but it's going to cost like [1:24:07] $320,000 wow so the cost of producing water is going [1:24:14] way and that's why it's essential to react on something like this because we [1:24:19] somehow need to curve the use while we're setting money aside to be a pay [1:24:24] for the find a grass that keeps green while [1:24:28] it's out water huh need to have green grass with less water find a grass that [1:24:35] will do that as opposed to I'm sure sports turf would be happy to talk show [1:24:41] you some that stuff gets hot indoor outdo or country yards they look they [1:24:48] look nice I like mine a yard of [1:24:52] Clover Clover keeps green man one of my brothers in Nevada has [1:24:58] painted rocks you know but no I I think this is uh something we need to do here [1:25:05] okay any other discussion councel or public [1:25:10] comment I get a motion to approve the first reading motion second motion by Co [1:25:16] seconded by Min key any further [1:25:20] discussion hearing none Lindsay would you please call a roll council member [1:25:24] cool yeah miniki yes Brown yes all right motion carries item 7 L second reading [1:25:30] of an ordinance granting to Mid-American Energy company it successors and assigns [1:25:35] the right and non-exclusive franchise to acquire construct direct maintain and [1:25:40] operate in the city of Norwalk Iowa a natural gas system and to furnish and [1:25:44] sell natural gas to the city and its inhabitants and authorizing the city to [1:25:49] collect franchise fees for a period of 25 years so we had a public hearing on [1:25:53] this side item and first reading at our last meeting this is to replace local [1:25:58] option sales tax on our natural gas bills with a 1% franchise feed like to [1:26:04] also add that just a couple days after our last council meeting held normal uh [1:26:09] mayor's chat in here we had several people in attendance where they asked [1:26:13] questions about the franchise fee uh I was I was impressed with the detail the [1:26:19] citizens of the citizen questions and their desire to learn what what was [1:26:23] going on uh I can't say they were excited about [1:26:26] the establishment of a fee but there seemed to be a genuine agreement that it [1:26:30] was the right move to make uh their main issue was disagreement of the fee [1:26:35] increasing Beyond 1% Jim Gan or Luke anything to add did [1:26:41] not no all right discussion from Council or public comments yeah I was gonna say [1:26:46] one thing is uh you know uh I'm sad that we're forced to do this you know the the [1:26:53] LW stuff is is a way of saying hey we're good neighbors within our County you [1:26:58] know people come here they spend money Norwalk people go there they spend money [1:27:02] and it's a way of being a community it's a way of like sharing and you know uh it [1:27:10] makes me sad that we have to turn to doing this because we're saying nope we [1:27:15] got to keep it all but I think we've been forced to make that decision and [1:27:20] overall I would say that I'm sad at the overall perspective on taxes because it [1:27:28] feels to me like um we're just it's it's another way that we're losing a a sense [1:27:36] of hey we're all in this thing together called a a good city with good streets [1:27:43] good sidewalks good you know good safety good good schools right and there's just [1:27:50] what's in people's ears saying I kind of want to opt out of that now just because [1:27:55] I don't want to pay for that so I'm getting on a hobby horse I [1:28:00] realize but doing this I'm just kind of like shoot it was nice that we were even [1:28:08] though maybe we were getting a lot of Revenue we were sharing it with our our [1:28:12] neighbors in Warren County I like that perspective um so I it's the right thing [1:28:19] to do um [1:28:26] they can do the same thing though yeah they are well they will they [1:28:31] are I mean George I'm not saying that we shouldn't do it yeah yeah I just don't [1:28:36] like the fact that our hand has been forced yeah let's get [1:28:41] selfish right now looks like I just looked up Indian orans first time I [1:28:45] looked at they got a 5% franchise fee right now yeah [1:28:54] Johnson just went to [1:28:58] 5% and did they do that explicitly because they're like Johnson [1:29:03] at least was like we got to generate more [1:29:07] Revenue yes to replace it's a house file 718 deal yes yeah they wouldn't have [1:29:13] done that correct I think that's true yeah all right any other discussion from [1:29:19] Council or public comment motion second all right motion by Co for second [1:29:25] reading seconded by mini Lindsay would you call roll council [1:29:30] member miny yes Brown yes cool yes all right motion carries item 7 m it's [1:29:35] second reading of an ordinance granting to Mid-American Energy company its [1:29:39] successors and assigns the right and non-exclusive franchise to acquire [1:29:44] construct erect maintain and operate in the city of Norwalk Iowa an electric [1:29:50] electric system to furnish and sell electric energy to the city and its [1:29:54] habit and its inhabitants and authorizing the city to collect [1:29:58] franchise fees for a period of 25 years got a public hearing on this item and [1:30:03] first reading in our last meeting this is to replace local option sales tax on [1:30:07] our electric bills with 1% franchise feed anything else to add Jim L te [1:30:15] discussion from councel public comment one more thing I was I asked a [1:30:20] few of my friends if they knew that they were even paying this one % and they're [1:30:25] like no [1:30:31] idea 4% was 4% yes wow you remember I mentioned when we got [1:30:38] together with the Min Ministerial Association there was more than one [1:30:42] Pastor that said they weren't sure if they were filed as exempt in paying the [1:30:46] local op of sales [1:30:49] tax yeah I'm not saying that's a positive or negative for it it was just [1:30:53] an interesting thing that if it didn't show up on the radar maybe it wasn't [1:30:57] that big of a deal all right can I get a motion to approve second reading motion [1:31:02] second motion by Co seconded by Min Lindsay would you call roll council [1:31:06] member mini yes Brown yes cool yes all right motion carries item seven n it's a [1:31:12] second reading of an ordinance amending the code of ordinances of the city of [1:31:16] Norwalk Iowa to adopt the Norwalk technology in Industry overlay District [1:31:20] so we had a public hearing and our first reading of the addition of the overlay [1:31:24] District to our ordinances at our last meeting Elliot anything to add uh per [1:31:29] Luke Paris he added what council decided on for the makeup of the Niti Review [1:31:34] Committee to the ordinance okay all right so can I get or any [1:31:42] discussion from councel or public comment I get a motion to approve motion [1:31:47] second reading as amended I got a motion by Brown seconded by I think [1:31:54] rule uh Lindsay would you call rule council member Brown yes cool yes Min [1:32:00] yes all right motion carries item eight future agenda items purpose for this is [1:32:06] for Council to give direction to staff by way of motion to have items placed on [1:32:10] future agendas it's not for a discussion of the merits of the subject matter do [1:32:14] we have any future agenda items tonight car none we'll go on Council [1:32:20] inquiries and staff updates number nine I'd like to remind everybody that this [1:32:24] portion of the meeting is much less formal uh you may hear some back and [1:32:29] forth banner and general joking around we believe this can build camaraderie [1:32:33] and cohesiveness between staff and councel but please keep it professional [1:32:39] Jim uh gotta talk about this gy look at [1:32:45] that well I guess so that's my daughter Olivia uh she had her first college [1:32:51] outing pitching softball lastek weekend down in Texas and she had three games [1:32:57] that she pitched and as a result she was named athlete of the week for the [1:33:02] Iowa I'm not sure what is NJCAA conference so all the junior [1:33:09] colleges in Iowa she was named athlete of the week for it so she did pretty [1:33:13] good for her first outing in college [1:33:21] mother lot of ours sitting on a [1:33:26] bucket yeah anything else uh I assume you'll talk about annexation so we'll [1:33:33] let you do that I can do that our leader during that so you could take the glory [1:33:37] of talk about it okay uh George Ed uh no sir [1:33:44] Ellie real quick thing a little bit extracurricular you guys know that I [1:33:48] sometimes send you articles and and interesting tidbits I run across uh two [1:33:51] weeks ago today Donald shot passed away if you don't know that name don't be [1:33:56] embarrassed he wrote The High Cost of free parking which came out in uh [1:34:03] 2005 um it's a the book is big enough to be used as a weapon um but it has become [1:34:10] kind of staple literature in our field and he was uh he's a very very funny guy [1:34:15] he's got some TED Talks that are interesting to listen to um his actual [1:34:19] website is shoot dog.org um so very enlightened fellow [1:34:25] but he passed away two weeks ago and just uh you know encourage you to check [1:34:29] out his material if you're uh ridiculously [1:34:34] bored that's all I got good thank you car nothing tonight [1:34:40] wait with the warm weather coming next week we're gonna have a lot of melting [1:34:44] and we'll have refreezing at night that turns into pothole season so if you get [1:34:49] complaints from residents we do have a form on our website where people can go [1:34:52] and report potholes uh we will be out filling them next week so if they let us [1:34:57] know we love it when we hear from people are telling us where they where they [1:35:00] have issues at the next city council meeting [1:35:03] I'm going to have a contract from both uh on the agenda to engineer what's [1:35:07] called a dowar retrofit project on 50th Avenue this will be a project from North [1:35:13] Avenue to County Line Road if you drive that segment you'll feel bumps the [1:35:17] joints are starting to offset uh this project will put Dow bars [1:35:22] at the joints then we diamond TR it to smooth it out it'll add about 15 more [1:35:26] years of life to that road I'm just telling you now my plan I'm telling you [1:35:30] now because my plan is to use reallocation of the ridge money the [1:35:34] money we had set aside for that assessment project we tried hard to find [1:35:39] a project that's going to affect a large percentage of the community but it [1:35:44] couldn't be a full rebuild because I don't want it start over another [1:35:47] assessment project I'm just trying to stay out of that for now um so we're [1:35:52] proposing to use the money on that that'll be on the next [1:35:56] agenda that's it all right Mr fire inspector nothing all right Chief yeah [1:36:03] since the last council meeting unfortunately we at the police [1:36:06] department had two resignations of officers um one for medical reasons and [1:36:13] one change in family circumstances both were um not really anticipated so to uh [1:36:20] fill those gaps uh you'll see at the next meeting or request for funding for [1:36:25] um an Academy training and we are hiring now looking for two good applicants or [1:36:32] actually we have one applicant in the pipeline so we're looking for one [1:36:35] applicant now hopefully we find it uh just want to [1:36:40] point out that because of the academy cycing uh when they start and when they [1:36:45] end and where we are in a hiring process just starting um from today it'll be 15 [1:36:52] months um before we have a person in position trained and operating on the [1:36:58] roads by themselves to replace the officer that resigned last week so just [1:37:04] want to put that in perspective that's all sir all right thank you Jean Kelly I [1:37:09] have nothing thank you olly you have some business updates um for retail and [1:37:15] restaurants just a lot of tentative opening planning date plan dates so the [1:37:20] sports plx Norwalk facility is open so that's kind of within the the bigger [1:37:26] Sports plex facility next to our Fieldhouse that's the indoor tur and [1:37:29] sports training so might have seen that on news story so they're doing good [1:37:34] Ember Market Vivid lifespa will be opening soon probably the next couple of [1:37:38] months mullets still scheduled for early April K High Golf is planning for June [1:37:43] Christian Brothers Automotive this spring um Cooper Central table on [1:37:47] cockail as you know has been open for a couple weeks doing super great they're [1:37:51] doing so well that there's already maybe some talk of expansion in their really [1:37:55] near future something cool with them is they are working with the Fairfield and [1:37:59] I'm sure they'll be working with the Hilton as well once they're open but [1:38:02] they their guests that stay at the Fairfield can put their food on um their [1:38:07] Cooper's food on their hotel tab so it's kind of cool and then their outdoor [1:38:11] patio will open this spring Sunset Lounge is now open already super packed [1:38:15] and popular um so it's not just a cocktail lounge it's got the full food [1:38:19] menu so that's kind of another just cool option for people to have hot works [1:38:23] studio is looking to open by mid-march um just another great health and fitness [1:38:28] opportunity for residents Pizza Ranch would like to be open sometime this year [1:38:32] um I know they're still kind of in their early stages but them having an arcade [1:38:36] is kind of a cool thing for families and all the kids that'll be here um over the [1:38:40] summer for the tournaments and everything at Sports Flex so that's [1:38:44] another good option art um Hilton Hotel also plans to open by late winter this [1:38:51] year they've had lots of delays a lot of electricity and things like that that um [1:38:55] you know we all deal with neure Smoothie Cafe and Bakery and Sports Nutrition [1:39:00] Affiliates that's under construction north of chat plan to open by summer [1:39:04] they'll also have an outdoor patio and then they're working on another [1:39:07] development next door that'll include more retail and a fitness fitness center [1:39:12] um we have another new upscale restaurant coming to the former Warrior [1:39:15] Run Clubhouse they'll announce details on that soon couple weeks hyper energy [1:39:19] bar will be building south of Subway in norlock central they'll double Drive [1:39:23] through super popular um all over the place especially with sports and [1:39:27] recreation areas nothing but healthy drinks coming out Health lot of caffeine [1:39:32] as you know we like um Credit Union will be building just south of Hy River um [1:39:38] planned to start this year as well the done industrial Flex buildings are full [1:39:41] so they'll be announcing all their tenants soon the Koso State delegation [1:39:46] trip tentative dates are June 22nd through the 27th if you're interested in [1:39:50] that please reach out to me the Washington DC legislative and economic [1:39:54] development trip is May 7th through 9th so talk to L Nelson and orene about that [1:39:59] and budget um and then on Tuesday May or you [1:40:03] want to talk about that governor and then oh this super fun um deas is they [1:40:09] will be making an announcement this week we'll put out a press release with they [1:40:12] purchased land along Highway 28 and Turnberry to build a new Clinic um [1:40:16] they'll start this year around 20,000 square feet facility Orthopedic Urgent [1:40:22] Injury Clinic um they'll also have physical therapy and sports performance [1:40:26] training they will plan to be open by Spring of 26 and then lastly check out [1:40:32] our new website we have for the Southwest development Corridor we can [1:40:36] email you that link but even if we just Google Southwest Bor it will pop up um [1:40:41] it includes our Economic Development guide as well and it's just a really [1:40:46] cool comprehensive place for people to be able to get every bit of information [1:40:50] going on in that whole area including the annexation developers looking for [1:40:54] land or land owners looking to be included infrastructure utilities so [1:40:59] it's kind of kind of cool let us know if you see anything that needs to be [1:41:02] changed and that's it all right [1:41:07] St would you like come [1:41:12] on I just wanted to point out I did deliver the March April activity [1:41:17] calendar so please take a look there's than 29 activities for all ages in there [1:41:22] and we would to have you stop in and see what our residents are up to thank you [1:41:26] all right thank you Robin said she didn't have anything so Lindy nothing [1:41:32] all right uh Jason so the Norwalk girls team finished the season with one [1:41:39] loss um they're ranked fourth in State uh and uh so they start their state you [1:41:47] know Journey on Saturday um with you know if you have [1:41:52] any time come join us at the Fieldhouse for that game uh there're a lot of fun [1:41:58] to watch um and we we had two girls that were first team All Conference two girls [1:42:06] that were second Team all conference two girls that were honorable menion all so [1:42:10] six wow that's like one more than a starter uh so uh it's the tied for the [1:42:18] best season in Norwalk history um and we were champ Co [1:42:23] champions of the conference this year we beat dcg for the first time in nine [1:42:28] years uh I don't know the last time we were champions of our conference um and [1:42:35] so and you know if you come pay attention to the 59 real [1:42:41] jumpy afraid to take shots stealing the ball passing for [1:42:47] assists rebounding doing all the things good coaches like uh [1:42:53] Pearl Brown also should say this since we're bragging about kids I think my [1:42:59] middle son may have run the fastest mile of anyone who's ever lived in Norwalk so [1:43:05] he ran a 406 out of Bost so Tony anania who's a senior he [1:43:10] ran a 406 something 1600 at state so I'm sure he's going to try and beat that [1:43:15] this year he's a senior but Jack didn't even do track in [1:43:19] high school he did soccer [1:43:25] so anyway nice yeah I know that his goals [1:43:30] are more he's a sophomore it's he wants to run faster than 406 [1:43:40] but thank you yeah thanks for [1:43:45] listening uh just a few items uh I I want to com commend the mayor on his [1:43:50] mayor's chat that did happen last last Saturday two Saturdays go um it's good [1:43:58] that you put that on I know you host that sometimes you don't get a lot of [1:44:02] participation uh but the mayor invites me he says Luke I want you to be there [1:44:07] it's a nice invite and I'm there and I was there at that one and um I I was [1:44:13] pleasantly surprised with I don't maybe a dozen people yeah several outside [1:44:19] corporate limits several from inside corporate limits on a couple different [1:44:22] issues and I am quite confident that every [1:44:26] person left that feeling better not saying happy but feeling better about [1:44:31] the decisions from the city because they had a chance to speak it face to face [1:44:36] one-on-one with what was going on with the mayor so I'm glad you do those I [1:44:40] know that takes time out of your Saturday morning uh in case any of our [1:44:44] staff doesn't realize it it helps us as staff a lot by him being willing to [1:44:49] answer those questions with the public so thank you for doing that I wish it [1:44:52] was better attendant we'll just say that yeah and unfortunately the way I think [1:44:57] that you uh get better attendance is by frustrating some folks yeah I hate to [1:45:03] say it but that's generally what gets people out not necessarily the good news [1:45:06] and we have so many good things happening sometimes that just doesn't [1:45:09] bring them out as much uh the other thing I wanted to note is uh Doug Stout [1:45:14] is a local staffer for congresswoman Miller Meeks and he's done a pretty good [1:45:21] job of being a ten to things happening in [1:45:24] Norwalk uh he brought the congresswoman up last week and we presented her with [1:45:30] this uh graphic this information little flyer that we gave her that talked about [1:45:35] the new interchange and also the i435 interstate [1:45:43] designation uh I was impressed that she knew exactly what we were talking about [1:45:49] with the interchange she had remembered that when we uh visited her in D and [1:45:53] also when she was here last time so just pretty neat that she took the time and [1:45:57] Doug thought of us to bring her up for a visit and can you hold that up there for [1:46:02] a second yeah um you know Ty's a good photographer but how do you'all feel [1:46:07] about my picture I just texted her it looks [1:46:10] awkward if you want the truth I did no in all fairness I said Ty I think I need [1:46:15] to get a new picture she's like sure anytime and then I haven't done it yeah [1:46:19] the flag flag's not there you think I look [1:46:26] I think he look like a high school football player was trying to make him [1:46:28] look like aular NE like you guys have seen like [1:46:33] I'm not exactly out you know Mr Olympia you know [1:46:38] so I am now gonna close this so that's all uh I was gonna mention [1:46:44] about annexation but I figured you uh on the [1:46:50] 12th we could go Wednesday uh staff and myself I was on Via Zoom but [1:46:58] uh we met with the city development board about our [1:47:01] annexation uh went through it was probably about a [1:47:05] two-hour public hearing and at the end the city development board approved our [1:47:12] annexation so we are in a 30-day review period at this point in time [1:47:18] so things went well so good job staff [1:47:23] they they were impressed with the submitt I point that out I mean it's uh [1:47:28] a lot of them you just see people not showing up for their hearings and [1:47:32] filling out filling inform forms not really providing a lot and I think the [1:47:36] uh hours that were spent on that uh but whole staff putting together maps and [1:47:43] assembling things uh they were quite complimentary of that they pointed out [1:47:47] and saying how good it was and I think they really appreciated it and there was [1:47:52] at least one one of the board members that indicated that uh we did everything [1:47:57] right it looked like this is the way that it's supposed to happen yeah good [1:48:02] and after a two-hour presentation there were hardly any questions whatsoever so [1:48:06] I take that and I take that to me that hopefully the presentation answered all [1:48:10] the questions that was kind of cool okay yeah then uh on Tuesday on Tuesday Holly [1:48:19] and I went down to the governor's office uh where Governor Reynolds signed a [1:48:25] proclam proclamation recognizing the 17th anniversary of kosovo's [1:48:30] Independence so that was really good good all I [1:48:38] have all right item 10 this closed session pursuant to Iowa Code section [1:48:44] 2073 to discuss labor negotiations for Police Department bargaining unit [1:48:49] agreement Jim is this AED reason go in close session yes it is can I get a [1:48:53] motion to go in CL [1:48:59] session can I get a second okay so motion wow I didn't think we were gonna [1:49:05] go in close session motion by Man seconded by Brown [1:49:10] Lindsay would you please call R council member miniki yes Brown yes cool yes all [1:49:15] right that motion uh carries it is 804