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» Okay.
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» It is 5:01 p.m. We have a quorum of 11
people and I'm going to call this

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meeting to order. My name is Lily
Tryman. I am the town clerk and until we

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elect a chair and a vice chair, I am in
charge of this meeting. Um, the first

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order on our agenda tonight is to elect
a chair. Would anybody like to nominate

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someone for the position of chair? I
would like to nominate Cheryl Lindsley.

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» Is there a second for that nomination?
>> No second needed.

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» Oh, no second. Thank you for keeping me
honest and straight about rules of

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procedure.
>> Why is there no second meeting?

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» Because Robert's rule says no second
needed when you nominate an office.

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» It's select board has done it that way.
Right, Matt? I think we

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» Anybody else want to nominate anyone
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Seeing no other nominations, we need to
do a roll call vote because we have an

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online presence today. So Kristen, could
you please lead us off?

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» Yes.
>> Uh Matt,

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» yes.
>> Yep.

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» Going around.
>> Yes.

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» Y
>> I'm a yes.

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» Yep.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> That is unanimous. And now I'm gonna

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hand it over to you for the vice chair.
>> Okay. So, I would like to accept any

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nominations available for vice chair
position. Anybody like to nominate

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someone?
>> I'll nominate Pam Smith for vice chair.

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» Thank you.

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Anybody else wish to nominate anyone for
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Okay, seeing none, uh, how do we vote?
Matt,

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» yes.
>> Elix,

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» yes.
>> Emily,

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» yes.
>> Yes.

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Yes.
>> Yes. I

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» Oh, yes. Don't because we don't have a
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» It's a the quorum a majority of those
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» Okay. Good. And
>> Kristen

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» Kristen.
>> Yes.

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» Okay. So, we now have a chair and a vice
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agenda is to review and approve the
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Is there any changes being offered on
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take a motion to approve it.
>> Second. Thank you.

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» Hang on.
>> Second.

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Do you have a

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» sorry

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» to approve the agenda as submitted and
Ernie seconded that?

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Any discussion?
Seeing none, I'll um I'll do the roll

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call. Matt,
>> yes.

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» Emily,
>> sorry.

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» Okay, I'm calling all the names. Carlin,
>> Lily,

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» yes.
>> Ernie, yes. Pam,

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» David, Cheryl, yes. Okay,

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» I thought I Oh, she it was the owl, not
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» All right, so we've done that. On to the
next item, which is the approval of the

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minutes for January 6th, 2025. our last
meeting and they were sent out by town

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clerk.
>> Everybody's had a chance to review them.

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Does anybody have any edits that they
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» I don't have a copy of the agenda.
>> Okay. Elix made a motion to approve the

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minutes.
>> I'll second.

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» Pam Smith second.
Okay. Any further discussion? Matt, how

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do you vote? Um, if I wasn't there, I
wasn't part of these minutes. Can I

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still
wasn't part of

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» So,
we can see how it goes.

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» I think it's your comfort level.
>> Okay.

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» Yes.
>> Emily, yes.

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» Yes. and that
>> David.

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» Okay. So, we only have one abstension
now.

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» So, the uh minutes are approved
and we can get those finalized by some

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time in December. Great.
>> Okay. according to the rules of

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procedure.
Uh the meeting uh the um abatement

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meeting has been called to order already
by the town clerk at the beginning. Um

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the
abatement hearing is for

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Judith Van
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» D. Miller who lives at 177 New Boston
Road in Norwich. And the partial ID

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number is 10-113.0000.

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I would like to ask the individual here
with us um does she have the paperwork

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you needed for
>> Okay. Thank you for bringing that just

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to raise your hand and take the
following oath please. That under the

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pains and penalties of purge solemnly
swear that the evidence you give in the

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cause under consideration shall be the
whole truth and nothing but the truth.

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Thank you. Miss document for her to see
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» She has it.
>> She has it. Okay, great.

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» Sounds like the doorbell rang.
>> Yeah, I chemo is here.

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» Okay.
>> The witness.

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» Yes.

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» All right. The next item under the
procedures is to request that are any

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members here any conflict of interest?
Does anyone have a conflict of interest

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or any exparte communication that has
taken place with the opponent?

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» Seeing none. All right. And I'll ask the
appellent if you have received the rules

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of procedure and you understand them.
Any questions?

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» Okay. Great.
Well, from there we go right on to

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asking you to identify the statutory
abatement category and your request for

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abatement.
And you have about 10 minutes or less.

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» Yes, ma'am.
>> We can do that. Sure. Would that be

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helpful to everybody? Sure. Let's go
around and introduce ourselves and how

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we're part of the board of abatement in
the town of Norwich. Matt, I'm going to

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start
>> public justice of the peace.

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facility.
>> Suzanne Lighter, Justice

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Corin Johnson,
>> Lily Chryman, town clerk and board of

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abatement clerk. Cheryl Lindberg, I am
treasurer and blister Kelly. Listister

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and JP

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» Dave Kriml, justice of the peace.
>> Thank you. El

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» Christ, justice of the peace. [laughter]
>> Teemo Greg's select board member.

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» Perfect. Now we've done everyone
>> I think so. Yeah.

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» Okay. Great. So now please proceed.
>> Okay. Amy Everheart. I'm Judy Miller's

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daughter. Um she and I represented her
quarter here. And um so the I guess the

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story is we paid our what we thought
were our taxes in September duties

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taxes. Um and then my prior to that my
father died about a year ago. So their

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taxes were filed for abstension and we
finally got them filed not until

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September based on through the ordeal of
the death. Um so when the taxes were

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filed in September I understand that
there was not an extension made on the

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homestead act we didn't have any idea
about that. Um, and so when we paid our

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normage taxes in September, we then got
a late fee in October saying that we

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hadn't paid our full taxes, which was
not our intention. Um, so then I filed a

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request to say we thought we paid our
taxes and then we got a fee saying we

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didn't pay the full amount because you
filed for an extension, but you didn't

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actually know what.
>> So I think one one I just interrupt

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quickly. the one piece, it's the HS122
form that doesn't get extended with the

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extension of a tax return. So, by not
filing that on April 15th or before that

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when it finally gets filed is late filed
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» Yeah. And so that's the part that um was
news to us and I I don't know whether

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the tax accountant should have been the
person to tell us that or whether the

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town should have told us that. No, it's
part of the forms [clears throat] for

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anybody's tax return. So, it's in the
directions that says, you know, you if

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you can extend your return, but you may
not extend the HS122 filing.

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» Yeah.
>> So, that has to be done by April 15th or

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whatever that date is right around there
that the state asks.

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» Yeah. So it's
>> so in her case I guess there wasn't

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there wasn't ability to do that if
>> if our child was late um due to the

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death because you know figuring out
where the information was if my parents

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and [clears throat] my mother doesn't
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So, there was a bit of paperwork that
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» Yeah, we had a scrambling going.
>> Yeah, I I guess I should have done that,

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but I have not asked her whether she
knew that or why she didn't

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probably should have had before this
meeting, I guess. But I don't know why

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she didn't that. Nevertheless, she
didn't file for September. We got news

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that we were late. Was not our intention
to do that. Um, and we ask that the town

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wave those%
I think and then the additional 1% that

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slate as of now. I would like to pay
what you

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» sure that just wondering if they would
wave the the fee because it wasn't a bit

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of a problem getting over there.
>> So, did you um identify a category for

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your abatement that you wanted us to use
for the request? I I didn't see a

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written
>> thing other than what Brennan sent.

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» Brennan just sent the hardship.
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» hardship. Yeah.
>> I guess that's was

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» a homestead penalty based on hardship
that nobody came to.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. It says here's hardship in the

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case of the death of her spouse which
came from Bren.

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» So the appeal is a hardship or not.
I think in the statute does it have

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» identify
>> you don't when it's a hardship on the

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homestead penalty you don't have to that
that is the basis for the

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» okay
>> that's when it's coming to abatement

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rather than for the lister it is right
>> there's none of the statutory reasons

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need apply just the hardship based on
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» death okay I can I can understand that
all right and anything else you want to

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share before we ask for any questions
that people might have.

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» I think that's it. Yeah, we'd like to
pay the full amount,

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» but request that the penalty be waved.
Yeah, understood. Okay,

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» so I'll look around for anybody that
have a question.

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» Just just what is the penalty?

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» Yeah. And the total now is over 800
something that is owed. I think I

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» So what we're looking at right now is
the amount that was in the

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» amount as of October 14
because of

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» 41828 was the penalty for the late
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» I will add one other thing was that we
got two different bills. So after we

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were late, we then got one bill and we
got another bill. Um so I didn't come

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right in with because I didn't know
which bill to pay. Um and then since

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then we filed with you to prove that be
be reduced. So I don't actually we we

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clarified on email which one it was, but
we did receive two different bills which

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sort of added to the confusion. It does
because what happened was you went from

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a nonh homestead tax rate which is lower
in Norwich. Yeah. Then the homestead tax

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rate which is was on the revised bill.
So you now are build as a homestead. So

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that's a higher tax rate
>> than the non and then you got the

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penalty was assigned as well.
>> So the additional taxes are due

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» for the homestead rate
>> right

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» calculation. I think it may have been
calculated

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» time. So one once on October 2nd and
then again on October

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right after that. Um will she receive a
revised tax bill once the decision is

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made if we decide to remove this
penalty? Does she get a a revised tax

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bill?
>> Yes.

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» Okay. So that would give a final amount.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah. [clears throat] I think that would
I have I have all the bills but that

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would be useful because I don't actually
know which one it is at this point.

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» Okay.
>> Right. So if there's any other

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um delay in payment that created a 1%
interest amount that's not what we would

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be addressing here today that I'm aware
of. We're just addressing the the

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penalty for the late filing of the HSN.
>> So there's no because it's November. I

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was hoping to pay it right away, but
because it's November, it's now 2%, I

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believe. Is that right, Carol?
>> Well, it's 1% a month.

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» 1% per each month.
>> For each month for the first three

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months, right, on that first payment.
>> Yeah. Right.

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» That that be waved as well because I was
I would be happy to paid it in October

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1st. Um I was just waiting for this
meeting to happen before I knew how

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much.
>> So the So both things, the two 1% bills

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plus the
the the 4% of the homestead that

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» is that a delivery discussion.

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» I guess it is.
>> I think it is.

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» I mean, you're ch you're essentially
we've been looking at this as the 4%

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penalty abatement is what's before us.
Whether that can change now in in your

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request, we to deliberate on that after
the meeting and decide. Okay.

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» Isn't the interest part of the penalty?
>> No.

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No, the interest is a separate
calculation from the 4% late file

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penalty which is what was in front of us
today.

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» But wouldn't it be on the difference
between the homestead and the non-h

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homestead rates that the percent 1% is
on that difference in the tax

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amount because of the change of
category?

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» No, there's not a penalty
for

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so your first bill is at the non-h
homestead rate lower. right

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» now. You get the penalty for the filing
late and then you get your revised tax

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bill. To my knowledge, there is no no
interest calculation done at that

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moment.
>> But then when interest [clears throat]

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does come along, it's only on the
additional taxes due at the home

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» that first payment, right? So let's say
it was $200 more was due from non-h

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homestead to homestead. Then the
calculation is 4% on the education taxes

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[clears throat]
and then the payment would be set for a

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payment date which you should make sure
you you know you come in and and address

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the payment date with finance and then
you would know to pay the additional

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amount and avoid an interest charge
>> by that that new due date when interest

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would then be charged again. So, I think
that's what I believe is the way it

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would work. Um, because your revised
bill is really taking you from

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non-homestead to homestead. That's the
main leap.

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» And then you got to then you have to pay
that extra amount for the first payment.

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» Yeah.
>> To get caught up on the first payment.

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» So, there's going to be additional
payment due either way. And

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» and the February payment will flush out
to be the full homestead calculation.

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Yeah. Now, in your mom's case, there may
be a little bit of both nonhomestead and

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homestead.
>> Yeah.

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» Does do she have any rentals on her
property?

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» No. Okay. Then she won't. It'll be all
homestead.

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» Yeah. I I think the maybe this is just
not understanding it fully. So, we

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wouldn't have received a late fee at 1%
if we had we didn't intend to have that.

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We felt we're paying our bill. So to
have that be waved and then the second

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one I didn't pay because I was waiting
for this meeting. So those two things

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were sort of I guess they guess my fault
if I should have come in and pay them

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but I was thinking that they were also
iron out the 4% because those are not

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related to me not paying the original
one.

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So and that could be amended as
>> so may I just find out did you make the

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first payment on time?
>> Yes.

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» Yeah. And that was the the tax bill we
received. We paid our

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. But then we received an amended

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one October 3rd.
>> And we did have not paid that one

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because that's the one we were agreeing
to based on the

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» So it's my understanding that you have
30 days from a revised tax bill to pay

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the new amount. That would be my
understanding because that's the normal

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amount of time a taxpayer has to pay the
original property tax bill first

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payment. 30 days from the date of
mailing. The second payment is due in

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February, which is way more than 30 days
ahead of schedule. So, that's my

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understanding of it. So, I guess when
you got the revised bill, you had 30

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days to catch up that first payment was
what you had.

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» But then, and maybe it was me
misunderstanding, but we were grieving

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that payment,
>> which is why it

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» No, you're not grieving the payment of
the taxes because the taxes

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» Oh, but it was unclear which which one
was which because it's the total bill is

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$81 which is partly this
>> penalty

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» this penalty.
>> Yes.

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» So that that the bill that came to me
included all and I did not go in and say

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I'll pay part of it. I wait I was
waiting I was thinking I was waiting

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till the end of this meeting to
determine what do I pay and then I pay

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it.
>> Yeah.

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» So that I guess is my question. How can
we lump them all together and figure

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that out?
>> Yeah. Yeah,

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» I think part of the 801 though is that
new homestead rate. So I would like to

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understand if you have a number of how
much was charged for just the interest,

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the 1% interest.
>> I don't have that clearly. I do have the

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bills that there is interest, but maybe
I think I share a little probably know

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better, but I've got I have two bills
that were said um an 803 sent on the 2nd

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of October and an 811 sent on the 3rd of
November, but they're they don't um

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there's a principle and an interest. So,
they don't to me it doesn't

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differentiate what my fees are versus
803 to 811. That's about $8. 1% of

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» 1%. So that second 1% though.
>> So we're we may be only talking $8 or

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$16.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» Elite says there's a hand up.
>> If you're non homestead, I hear home. If

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you're not homestead, I hear homestead.
Can someone clarify for me? Was it

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originally home? And now what's the
difference? Why would it change?

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» Yes, I can explain that. So when they
received their first tax bill, their

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HS1, her HS122 was not filed.
So she was build at the nonhomestead tax

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rate. As soon as the accountant put
through the paperwork in September,

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it triggered the tax return being filed
and the accountant included the HS122 at

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that point that needed to be filed on
April 15th. Period. So then the tax bill

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that came out based on this new filing
of the HS122 took her from nonh

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homestead over to homestead
>> was a higher higher amount now

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» higher tax rate
>> tax rate but what's a nonh homestead

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than what's a homestead
>> like percentage

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» so if it's your second house if it's
your second house in Norwich and you're

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not living there as your primary
residence that's a nonh homestead if you

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live in your house and you live there
most of the year. That's your homestead

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and you pay that rate.
>> It's your principal dwelling.

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[clears throat]
>> But in this case, your mom's an assisted

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living. She has since moved in but not
>> this was as of April 1st of 2025 that

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this is asking for that HS122
as of April.

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» The taxes were she was not a homestead.
So it was a lower tax and then the

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revision was a higher tax. No,
>> I get that part, but I'm trying to

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understand the difference.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay, fair enough.

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» So, the error came with us not filing on
time partly because we get all things.

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» Okay, good discussion on everything.
Anybody

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have a further question?
>> Anybody online have a question?

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» Anybody Oh, is anybody online? I'm
hoping Lily's watching those folks.

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Anybody have a question?
No, they see me have the

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» chemo. No,
>> no.

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» Okay, thanks.
>> Yep.

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» All right. Well, if there are no further
questions, then I thank you for coming

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and we will close the hearing. We will
deliberate afterwards tonight

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» and we will send you our decision within
30 days.

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» Okay, great. So, do I pay my bills?

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You know,
It's probably good to check in with the

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finance office and see where you can
catch up on things to avoid anything

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further. And by the way, as an aside,
anytime you overpay, it going to get

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credited to the February payment because
within the year. So if, for example, you

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now have overpaid because you might have
paid some of the penalty, it'll get

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credited to the February and it'll stay
on your on her account.

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» Yeah.
>> So I could come in and pay before I

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you're effect. You could
>> and to clarify if it gets taken out of

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the February bill she would she get a
new February bill for clarifying or she

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actually
>> Yep. Yep. She'll have a new bill. Yes.

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To look at and know that

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» do they actually print a new bill or
does she contact finance and ask them

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what what is the final number?
If so, the decision we make tonight will

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be determining whether there's a revised
tax bill or not. Correct. Correct.

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» So, we're getting into territory. We
need to move, you know, finish up the

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meeting and then discuss.
>> So, the [clears throat] next fee would

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come December 1st.
>> I should pay it before that. That right?

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» Say that again.
>> The next 1% would come on December 1st.

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» Well, I'm not sure the calculation date,
but it sounds like that would be the

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typical one. Although again, as I said
earlier, with a revised tax bill, I

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would have thought somebody had 30 days
from the issuance of the bill to make

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that payment
>> without additional interest being

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charged.
>> Now, I realize I'm not in the finance

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office and I don't make those decisions,
but it just makes me think that's what

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should happen.
>> Okay.

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» But
>> great. Well, thank you.

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» Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. and
thank you for being here and helping us

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on this.
>> I can take both of us in sun pass,

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please. Thank you very much. Thank you.
>> All right. Um,

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» pass it down here.
>> So, I will um

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» Yeah,
>> you told me an excellent story about a

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monkey on a ship once.
>> Oh, yeah. I'm sure it didn't fall off

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the ship or something.
>> I think he killed it at some point or it

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was taken it was taken ashore and killed
is what I remember.

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» I remember
but I did like to tell it.

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» Okay. [laughter]

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» Yeah, that one. Wow. Thank you.
>> Yeah. Thanks so much.

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» So, is there a motion to adjurnn?
>> Motion to adjourn. So move

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» seconded.
>> Second

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» anybody that wants to hear a sec.
>> I got a leak.

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» Okay.
>> Anyway, um

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» so that's not debatable. Elix, how do
you vote?

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» Matt,
>> yes.

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» Emily,
>> yes.

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» Yes.
>> Yes. Corin and Lily.

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» Yes.
>> Cheryl, yes.

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» David,
>> yes.

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» Okay, close. It is
>> what time? 528

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» online
>> online and

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» yes
[laughter]

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» and Kristen shook her head there
>> I'm gonna stop the recording uh

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» we adjourn to
>> finish the