[0:00] as we begin will you please join us in the pledge I pledge aliance to the flag [0:05] of the United States of America to the stands [0:12] na [0:17] indivisible thank [0:21] you I'm sure that we're all aware of what's happening in our world right now [0:25] and I think as we start our meeting I would like to ask that we just take a [0:28] couple minutes of silence just to reflect on what's Happening Pray for [0:32] Peace if that's part of who you are um and contemplate peace if it's not um [0:38] we're in a pretty shaky situation for a lot of people and I think it's very [0:43] appropriate for us to start our meeting and our deliberations with just a moment [0:47] to reflect on on what's going on and to pray and consider people as they're [0:54] going through some very very difficult times so please join me in a moment of [0:58] SS [1:17] thank you our culture doesn't do well with with f times as we're all going [1:23] wind thank you though for joining me in that um I would entertain a motion and [1:30] second for um was everybody here for both of these meetings well we can't [1:34] have the minutes for the 12th because we're having the minute 12th it says [1:39] we'll do the minutes next meeting because because Jennifer's not [1:43] here and we have [1:49] changes okay so we will defer the adoption of minutes um Steve Nolton has [1:54] been um stuck at work um I got a call from him about uh 20 minutes ago he will [2:01] not be able to join us today so we will continue our land use technical [2:05] committee discussions about affordable housing um on October [2:11] 26th um if he's available he to check his um his schedule he will be sending [2:18] to us board um an email outlining um the the different issues that the lutc has [2:26] been discussing so that we'll have a chance to review them this meeting [2:31] okay um we'll Now open up for public comment on any of our action items [2:37] um um there are several places where we have public comment so if you do have a [2:42] public comment about something else what we normally try to do or what we always [2:46] do is have public comment on any of our action items so we can finish them and [2:51] then we can move on to um any other public comment on any issue so our [2:56] action items for tonight are for the board to accept our audited voucher [3:03] summary uh the second is for us to um accept the vacancy survey um that would [3:09] um relative relating to the emergency tenant protection [3:15] act the third is way back here the third is to [3:24] um approve a just compensation for property owners for the easeman um [3:29] related to our sidewalk project the Safe Streets to school project where we will [3:34] be um having to do some some work with with property owners to um take some of [3:41] their properties take some of their some of the fences off replace things so [3:46] we're trying to work on a process that limits the um the cost and exposure for [3:52] our residents um the next resolution is for [3:57] us to authorize um pilot agreement for Rockland Gardens um when we get to that [4:04] um we'll we'll talk a little bit more about that um I understand that the town [4:08] of Orangetown has tabled their approval um and so for further discussions they [4:13] wanted to ask some questions of their assessor um the next one is for us to [4:22] approve um the installation of a commemorative plaque um naming the [4:26] Gazebo Memorial Park after Bert and Chris Hughes [4:31] the next is for us to approve um a stargazing in Memorial Park on the [4:37] Memorial Park viewing Pier um for for the week of 20 October 22nd to 27th at [4:44] least once hopefully the skies are clear for for Joe Carlin to lead and the last [4:49] is for us to um award um another of our sidewalk repair projects to Belleville [4:58] Landscaping um for Main Street any comments on any of those [5:09] items yes if you could please stand and give us your name and your where you [5:13] come from for the record thank you I Joe Carlin [5:19] um7 Second Avenue just a quick note regarding the [5:24] uh stargazing obviously it's Contin on the [5:28] weather and and since we haven't had too much lately a lot of rain cloudiness so [5:35] I just wanted to know if um we could add another possible week after the [5:41] Halloween parade or after Halloween sometime early November and hopefully we [5:47] can make it happen sometime um I would say [5:53] November November 2nd to the 6 or November November 9th to [6:02] the 15th Joe I honestly don't see any issue [6:06] with us reapproved this if it doesn't work during that week um so why don't we [6:11] wait just so that we can get it the way it is we wait until the week is over and [6:15] then we'll if if it doesn't work just let let Andy know and we'll we'll redo [6:19] it okay thank you any other [6:26] comments okay hearing none let's move through our action [6:30] items um I need a motion in a second for us to accept our audited voucher [6:36] sumary motion from Marie second from Donna um oh by the way Jen won't won't [6:42] be joining us so we'll be trying to make sure that we're a little bit [6:46] demonstrative about who's making motions in seconds so that it ends up on the on [6:51] our tape for for the minutes to be to be transcribed so forgive me if I'm [6:56] overbearing on that issue so motion from Marie second from Donna any [7:02] discussion all in favor I opposed motion carried let's get this next one on the [7:08] table and then Dennis if you want to walk us through um what your what your [7:12] expectations or what we need to think about um this is for uh I need a motion [7:17] in a second to uh accept the um the vacancy study conducted by The Village [7:23] administrator relating to the emergency tenant protection act Declaration of [7:28] housing emergency so Mo second motion from Donna second from Pascal um let's [7:35] give Dennis an opportunity to give us his thoughts and then we can ask [7:38] questions well um from a legal perspective [7:44] uming confidentialities that we shared over the past few months um I [7:53] counsel The Village administrator Andy Stewart uh and to the mayor and that may [8:01] be it and maybe some of you in executive session because there's been a threat of [8:07] litigation um that in my legal opinion we have conducted this survey correctly [8:14] with compliance with the applicable law there's not a ton of law out there but [8:18] from what I've uh researched and reviewed carefully and also spoken to uh [8:24] some colleagues in the municipal attorney sphere [8:29] um I'm comfortable that we The Village through Andy um have performed this [8:36] survey study for vacancy rates in compliance with the law as it stands [8:43] today that's all I can really share about that thank you and um of course [8:48] Andy can talk about the mechanics of conducting the survey which was his well [8:54] I I think we've actually done that a couple times in public session I think [8:58] the one thing thing that we did do was um we did receive additional information [9:04] and the reason for tabling this motion at the last meeting was for us to [9:08] consider it to give fair look at it and then and then to decide whether we [9:13] should move forward we've done that we've added a section into the [9:17] resolution regarding that which anybody can look at if they want to is there any [9:24] other clarifications or questions of the yes than please I'm assuming all the [9:30] trustees have read the draft resolution the proposed resolution um if not maybe [9:37] suggest that we take a minute or two to review it now I just like sure this is [9:43] an important one so yeah so if you haven't reviewed it if you could just [9:47] read it over real quickly if you have you have any questions about legal [9:51] question or mechanical for Andy regarding the conducting of the survey [9:55] Andy's [9:58] here [10:03] and the the new additional information that that Don was apping to is the [10:09] paragraph where is that paragraph see I think it's the bottom of page two [10:17] in your agenda you print out bottom of page [10:20] two page top page [10:26] three so starts at the bot [10:39] over top of Page Three second paragraph on page three as [10:47] well refen additional [10:51] information are we all good we read through yeah any further questions I [10:57] just wanted to make a note of the fact that we did get some as the resolution [11:01] indicates we got some responses that came in or at least one response that [11:05] came in after time and was not completed the way that the survey requested um and [11:12] though that was not included in the survey but even if it were it would not [11:16] change the result where the result clearly showed a vacancy rate of under [11:21] to 5% which is what's contemplated to declare a housing emergency in the [11:25] btpa um and so I I want to say that to the Village administrator and [11:32] everybody that worked on this this was a very careful painstaking and extended um [11:39] approach that they took and very disciplined and I appreciate the work [11:43] they did to make sure that it was done precisely and um that we got good [11:49] information reliable information that we can act upon so thank you Andy and [11:54] that here here anything else hearing nothing all in favor I opposed [12:02] motion carried [12:07] um The Next Step you made thinking Don is no I was actually considering whether [12:12] we should um I I want to let the public know that we did receive uh an [12:18] additional email from from an attorney of a coalition of landlords um which [12:24] suggested that we were not willing to consider a proposal that they had sent [12:29] to us and I want to make sure for the record that it's stated that we are [12:33] willing and will continue to work through that process um as we move [12:39] forward so that um just I just want to make sure that the public is aware that [12:43] we have received that um and that we will um consider it just like we've [12:48] considered anything that's come before us about this issue just want trustees [12:53] the next step is to schedule an actual public hearing on whether or not to [12:58] declare a housing emergency in the village of n act that's by public [13:02] hearing I'll prepare that a with vany get that published and uh so we have not [13:07] declared tonight we have not declared a housing emergency this not this is not a [13:12] declaration of a housing emergency it is simply the accepting of the survey um [13:18] that demonstrates a housing emergency based on us do we need a resolution to [13:23] set the um public yeah let's go through these we'll do that after remind me if I [13:28] forget um so we [13:36] are3 we're 5.3 right yes y to approve um the just compensation um this is for the [13:44] easements for the um safe roots to school I need a motion second so may [13:49] second um any questions I think we've gone over this fairly several times in [13:54] the past um for those in the public this is about um working with residents along [14:01] Dew and some of the side streets on on Lower Dew we're going to be widening [14:07] those sidewalks to make it safer for kids to get up and down to school so and [14:13] that will require us to do some work with uh with residents about making [14:18] taking over some of their land talking with them about hey you're on Village [14:22] land and just that whole process of working through that we've already begun [14:26] that we've talked with residents we've had a couple meetings with them that [14:30] process will continue this just gives us the ability to um to use Grant funds to [14:35] to do to make that happen any [14:40] questions hearing none all in favor I oppos motion [14:45] Carri no we're not you had a question no we're not we're not we we had it place [14:51] for open comments we're moving through our resolutions now there'll be a place [14:55] for public comment after we're done with our [14:57] resolutions our next resolution is to um authorize [15:03] the mayor to sign a pilot agreement with Rockland [15:06] Gardens um housing Partners limited partnership um the town of Orangetown [15:12] Union Free School District of nyak um regarding 84 North Franklin Street which [15:20] is basically rocking Gardens let's get it on the table and then if we have any [15:24] questions we can get clarification second motion from Donna from [15:29] Pascal um Andy you want to add anything to what I said earlier about this and I [15:35] hope I got that right I think that it's important people [15:39] to understand that the assessor evaluated this um the agreement is to [15:46] hold their current um assessment level for another year or so and then increase [15:53] it given the amount that's be invested in that property and then hold that for [15:57] a certain number of years um it's not a tax impact right so [16:02] there's no impact on our taxes um only on the assessment of the building so our [16:08] taxes will remain the same we just won't have the assessment of the building will [16:14] not go up until the Pilot is is finished and it will phase in if I understand it [16:20] correctly when I read it I believe it goes [16:24] 6.8 so um any questions I I understand the town of Orange [16:29] asked for um some clarification from the assessor before they wanted to vote on [16:34] it um we can vote on it before they do don't yeah I would recommend that we do [16:40] to show um to show the the the owner that we this is a positive thing for for [16:47] our subsidized housing to get it completely um refurbished and and and [16:53] worked on and it will be a positive thing for our residents and it will not [16:57] be increased act end up in an increase in their rent so this is quite an [17:02] accomplishment and we should really I think be thanking on rock and Gardens [17:07] for for the idea and the process to get us here so I would suggest that we vote [17:13] on it tonight um and then let the town of Orangetown make their determination [17:18] can I just ask I'm assuming that the school district and the town because [17:23] it's a tax I believe the school passed pass [17:28] school board has a town of Orangetown just had a couple questions they wanted [17:33] to [17:37] ask hearing no other questions all in favor I oppos motion [17:43] Carri um I need a motion in a second to [17:47] approve the um naming of the Gazebo after B second Mar read the motion [17:53] second from Donna um any further discussion on this [17:59] um It's just sad that we need to do it but appropriate that we [18:03] do um all in favor opposed motion carried and could we also just add um [18:11] sending a note of thanks to Chris for all everything she's done for the [18:15] village and and notifying her of this it' be a nice touch to have it come from [18:21] us as the trustees the next is a resolution to [18:26] approve the stargazing in which Jo permission we'll do it just for the time [18:30] that's in the resolution and if for some reason we have clouds we'll we'll just [18:35] add dates on so that's all right everyone I need a motion a second I got [18:41] a motion from Donna a second from Joe any um further discussion hearing none [18:47] all in favor opposed motion carried for stargazing yeah I feel going [18:54] this is I I shouldn't digress but when when my grandson gets gets out on the [18:59] porch in the morning he wants to lay down on the porch and look up at the sky [19:03] and point at the clouds so I know exactly what you're gonna [19:09] do during the day I just want to note for the record that for my 13th birthday [19:13] one of the stars were name was named after me just for my 13th birthday one [19:17] of those Stars was named after me so if you can find it figure out your picture [19:22] of somewhere up there our next resolution is for us to approve a [19:29] um an award for Main Street sidewalk repair to Belleville [19:34] Landscaping um let's get a motion in second and then if Andy wants to explain [19:39] to us exactly what's happening motion motion from vascal second second from [19:45] Marie Andy I'm sure everybody has noticed that [19:51] the sidewalk between the hesai Easter um square square and the River State Park [19:58] is really deteriorated in a number of locations and um I would love to be able [20:04] to fix that um it won't cost a lot of money we have sufficient funds in our [20:10] Paving and Road fund um and we have the three quotes in [20:15] compliance with our procurement policy which is any Public Works project under [20:19] $35,000 you get three written [20:24] quotes and I think we got some pretty competitive votes there i' like to move [20:29] forward the project as soon as any [20:34] questions hearing none all in favor I oos motion carried we will now open up [20:40] for um public comment on any item um we will limit our discussions to the best [20:46] we can to three minutes I'll remind you at 2 minutes and 30 by putting my hand [20:51] up if we need to go over um we'll see what the sense is and you may have to [20:56] come back up again if anybody that wants to make public comment that hasn't [21:00] signed in um Andy do you want me to get that for you um when you come up to make [21:07] your public comment um since we are reporting and we are live if you would [21:11] give us your name and your um address and um then please have that whatever [21:17] the issue is that you want to bring before [21:25] us the first person is [21:47] all right hello how you doing my name is Amir resent [21:51] of all probably know me lot of other people around here know me as well and [21:57] uh we were uh talking a while back and I had I Disappeared for a [22:02] while I'm sorry things stuff um and uh wanted to touch up on the basis of [22:10] what's happening with the fines that were happening with 197 CLE out uh the [22:17] fire fines and also at the same time what's is going on with the legal [22:23] building that they've been doing and everything else that uh [22:28] has passed after the Kingston just be a little louder I [22:33] can't after the Kingston law oh so you're talking about the emergency [22:37] tenant protection act and what are you talking about for the [22:41] fire um from what I've uh been informed that the fire department find uh the the [22:48] management of 197 sickles for improper uh management of uh equipment so they [22:56] were using illegal will uh varnish and things like that uh in [23:02] the building and also without the uh permit for the [23:10] town I am not aware of those violations so we don't normally get those [23:16] violations sent to us those are normally handled through the Justice Court um so [23:20] I don't know if we can actually respond but we can certainly find out and let [23:23] you know unless um we did have S will fire [23:29] excessive false along cases excessive false along cases it sounds like you're [23:34] referring to a different type of violation they were in court a couple of [23:38] weeks ago sadly or disappointingly none of the defendants [23:42] showed up I've been I've been working with the building department fire [23:46] inspector to try to address that that problem of lack of appearance by code [23:54] violation defendants but there were set sets of false alarms uh not something [23:58] that you just described I I'm not sure you're talking about no you're talking [24:03] about7 C Avenue I don't alarms that we do have uh from the fire department was [24:10] a lot of times with the time Hotel the time hotel we have excessive alarms that [24:15] went off and there was no reason for the alarms to go off but with uh the uh 19 [24:22] 197 sickles it was about varnish and the contractors us [24:28] things that were not supposed to be used and was toxic to people [24:34] that that may have been on the court calendar but if it was the defendant did [24:39] not show up but I don't think it was um as as the mayor pointed out [24:45] uh Village administrator and I will will contact Building Department fire [24:50] inspector and see what's happening 197 second can you leave a email address so [24:56] that we can or or phone number that we can correspond with you after we find [24:59] get to the bottom of it absolutely because the fire department you normally [25:04] is not in the business of issuing summonses that's usually done by our Co [25:08] enforcement fire inspector so this was this was back in the time when Dana [25:12] Nichols was still the was 101 of the and now it's changed over to J pill [25:22] right so as J came then you start cracking down on the things that were [25:29] going wrong sure well have have Jim give either Andy or I a call but we'll get [25:34] the information for you if there's something that he needs from us he I'm [25:38] not aware of him I haven't been in contact with Jim for a couple weeks [25:43] about any of these issues so I'm not aware of the specifics that you're [25:47] talking about so if you want to have Jim either contact myself or Andy he has our [25:53] cell phones well the reason I the reason that I was asking is because since I've [25:58] been a resident there for the last 15 years and I've seen all everything [26:04] changing back and forth that's why I'm concerned with a lot of other residents [26:09] that are here with me and so there is I don't want to say that there's you [26:18] know sliding of the hands but uh we all do know that there is sliding of the [26:23] hands going across the board so I want to see if that is something think [26:28] because this is I'm a person that lives in the neighborhood I worked in the [26:33] neighborhood I was I left the neighborhood because I was pushed out [26:37] because I fell out of business and I still live in the [26:41] neighborhood but the most important thing is the safety for our children and [26:46] our community we we agree with you 100% I um so we'll we let us let us do some [26:52] research to find out um well I'm not going to agree with you or disagree with [26:56] you about slight of hand on anything but let us do the research and we'll figure [27:00] out um the issues that you're bringing we can trade information across the [27:05] board with uh emails and uh everything else so that we we can stay in [27:10] communication with each other we we will be happy to email you [27:15] any of the information you of course can email us anytime or come to any meetings [27:19] and raise them again but we're not I'm not just not familiar with the issues [27:22] you're bringing up so I can't really respond we talked about it three months [27:25] ago three months ago before I disappeared and it was all about the [27:29] housing and the legal building and everything else that was happening and [27:33] that was only the beginning of uh well I don't recall that discussion so and we' [27:39] about church the church came and Wasing as well about the uh situation about the [27:46] rent increase across [Music] [27:50] town violations are different that that requires a different type of response [27:54] the response the issue that you brought up about the rent increase has been [27:58] something we've been meeting about regularly since then culminating in [28:02] today accepting the vacancy study on the etpa been some advice about information [28:07] that I need to figure out but at the same time like so if they [28:13] have violations how do they pay a a fine and the village doesn't know about the [28:18] fine no The Village doesn't know it's said I don't know I wouldn't I don't [28:24] there's lots of fins that are given out in the village and I have no idea who [28:27] they're giving to um so it's that I don't know it's not that the village [28:31] doesn't know I'm sure the Village Court is very aware of every fine that's been [28:35] given out the building Department's aware of every of every code violation [28:40] that they've made but I don't have that information to give to give you feedback [28:45] and this is I'm s unless I'm completely forgetting the only thing that I [28:50] remember you bringing to us was the rent increases and we have been working we've [28:54] been working diligently on them and building they didn't use any permits [28:59] they reuse one permit and and our building inspector went up our building [29:03] inspector and fire inspector did go up but I don't know what the results of [29:07] that was but we will find [29:10] out thank you because as as a member of to go into a building and other [29:18] buildings where people are doing things illegally and I'm GNA put my life on the [29:22] line as I PID completely agree with and I don't get paid anything to [29:28] uh you know go save someone's life I'll save anyone's life at any moment at any [29:32] time you know this is from Chelsea L and being a prominent member of the [29:39] community but at the same time needing to know and understand what's going on [29:43] so that way our lives are not just wasted completely agree we're doing we [29:50] we I think we well let us find out what's going on and we'll get back to [29:54] and we can we can we can talk about it in public at the next meeting meeting [29:57] but we just don't have the information for you [29:59] today thank [30:04] you [30:08] next why you just bring that back down see give it to me and I'll I'll call [30:12] them up the only sign up is Mr John [30:19] J [30:24] Daniel you want to wait for the next session [30:28] okay um we are now at um Department reports [30:35] if there's no other public comment right now please come up and [30:39] tell us give us your [30:46] name hi my name is mar lingon and I live at 33rd Avenue in nyak and I'm here I [30:51] spoke last time we met to discuss 11th Avenue I'm here again to talk about it [30:57] um again the person who bought this property did so as an investment never [31:01] lived at the property um as a right you know it's a two family Zone and he could [31:07] certainly upsize the property he has right now and probably bu more than one [31:12] but not being satisfied with that he wants to put multif family housing there [31:16] he obviously has good lawyers and understands that if he just ask for SE [31:19] Amendment based on one it's back summoning we not going to do that so he [31:23] carved out a niche of six about six properties of a certain size [31:27] and he saying to well let's change it and up Zone that and everyone knows [31:31] affordable housing is good and therefore we should do this to these six [31:35] properties and that won't have a huge impact but the truth is it would have a [31:39] huge impact in our neighborhood you'd end up with smaller properties in [31:43] between multif family housing on gney it is a small block um as people have [31:49] testified beforehand there are lots of parking issues in the neighborhood [31:54] although it's a two family Zone it's mainly one family housing and we are not [31:59] interested in having neighborhood change n has a master plan if you're going to [32:04] change the zoning in the community you should do it through a master plan we [32:08] see no reason why you should spend money on the resources NX resources because [32:12] someone individual wants to change the zoning with his property and it does not [32:18] benefit any of the neighborhoods and any of our neighbors and we're all V opposed [32:24] I think a lot of people aren't here tonight there's a lot going in world in [32:27] the world at the moment but they certainly all showed up at the zba [32:31] meeting and they signed a petition and they let you know loud and clearly that [32:35] they did not want up zoning in our neighborhood that we har our property [32:40] values that we love our neighborhood that we want to live in this [32:43] neighborhood we bought homes knowing that it was two family residential [32:47] neighborhood and we're very satisfied with that and we would like to keep it [32:51] that way and we ask you to vote no and to represent the community and your [32:56] community does not want you to up Zone these blocks so thank you thank you [33:02] thank [33:08] you discuss you want to wait until we open [33:15] discuss um Ju Just you know that that issue is on our agenda to discuss um we [33:21] have not um made any action to move any consideration I've asked the board at [33:28] our last meeting to make sure they came to this meeting ready to discuss it [33:32] about whether we would move forward or not so um that that is our agenda so [33:37] thank you for your comments um we will open up now to um [33:42] our business our reports our department reports um we have not met initially uh [33:49] since our last meeting with the um oround Police Department um we did have [33:53] one interaction with them um about a a um an incident of um of graffiti on a [34:04] stop sign um they responded very quickly and are doing an investigation on it um [34:10] we removed the stop sign and put up a new one um and it was related to um to [34:16] the to the Jewish community so we wanted to make sure we acted quickly and and to [34:22] try to help people to kind of get through where we are right [34:25] now um [34:29] Dennis nothing that except that I happy to have received report from [34:36] Andy that our Fine Collection in the Justice [34:41] Court this through my prosecutorial work has brought in [34:49] significantly higher numbers than I guess the past and I only say that [34:55] because it it's something that I think I've heard over the past n months or so [35:03] about quality of life people speeding not coming to complete stop stop signs [35:07] going through red lights and by being a little bit more aggressive with the [35:11] findes U maybe the word gets out that hey slow down come to a complete stop [35:16] the stop sign stop with red lights maybe it [35:21] will eventually improve the quality of life when it comes to Traffic Safety so [35:26] I'm happy to accept that report from the village administrator and I hope to [35:31] continue to uh send the message out on the street that a new [35:36] sheriff well thank you Dennis and I think it also speaks to what we heard [35:42] about making sure that we're that we're following through on our finds and [35:46] Notting not allowing people to just do things that they shouldn't be doing in [35:51] their vills and being very very diligent about that and making sure that we have [35:55] the the process to let this gentl know I missed your [35:58] name I'm sorry um I have been in communication with the uh attorney [36:03] representing the board of fire Commissioners and um expressing to me [36:07] the board of fire Commissioners very serious concern about the excessive [36:11] false alarm problem and I'm treating that very very very seriously and um [36:18] unfortunately these last several defendants that were supposed to appear [36:22] for excessive false alarms a couple weeks ago cour none of them showed up [36:26] but my int was to be pretty harsh on fines and I will continue to do so yeah [36:31] I think we I think we need to we need to this is important for our volunteer [36:35] service that we do this okay um thank you Dennis [36:41] Andy just a couple items uh just following up on that we had intended to [36:45] have a finance report from our C Treasurer tonight but she was taking [36:48] Hill unable to appear so I look forward to Bringing full [36:53] information to the board at our next meeting um you did have in your packets [36:57] and posted online a um a year to date for the first quarter um [37:03] and in terms of fines through the court system um dramatic Improvement compared [37:10] to last year I know there's a backlog I think Dennis has really been working [37:14] hard so again I want to also commend Dennis for his hard work working with [37:18] Ryan and Alexandria and judge Noble and others to um to run a tight ship there [37:25] so thanks for that um so we'll have a full planishing [37:29] report for you on the 26 while you have that in hand if you [37:34] have any questions or things you want us to focus on for that report please let [37:37] me know I can talk and the same goes for the public it's on it's on the website [37:42] if you review it and you have any questions please feel free to let us [37:46] know what they are and we'll address them in our next [37:50] meeting so we won't go into that right now um just from the bookback in capital [37:56] project right now we've been we had two things [37:59] going on this week one was a piece of the tap Broadway sidewalk project which [38:04] was a burying of of electrical lines between light poles in front of P book [38:09] shop and south of Bird Street that was completed this week and um they have a [38:14] couple little things to do to finish up their [38:17] project um we may have enough money left after all the billing we're waiting to [38:22] see to do more next year so we obtained proactively an extension on that [38:28] contract with the state in case after we pay the remaining bills to attack hva [38:34] and play and that we're we can assess whether we have enough to take on [38:37] another section of the sidewalk which would be nice of course [38:42] um we also have sidewalk work going on heading down South Broadway in front of [38:46] tman towers the brick house and a nyak center that cdbg funded um Tera Firma [38:52] has doing a great job they're working fast they're about to turn the corner [38:56] onto few originally we had bid out just the South Broadway section but they came [39:00] in with a really good price so it's was enough money to make probably all the [39:04] way up to Franklin on the sections that are that are deteriorated there there's [39:08] a couple sections that were done fairly recently they're in good shape up by the [39:12] Franklin Corner it's on Pew Avenue so so we were [39:17] we're talking with the um man Plaza Housing Authority n Center and others to [39:23] coordinate um that project will be going up to pew started um probably not Friday [39:29] but certainly early next week that's great so so that's going on the marina [39:35] Paving project we're really excited about that's starting this week yeah um [39:38] because of the rain this weekend um they're not going to go full boore today [39:43] tomorrow um but they're definitely rallying their forces and mobilizing to [39:48] to pave that lot which hopefully we'll improve the drainage as well because we [39:53] get some big puddles down there and we're hoping to see that situation [39:57] mitigated a [40:00] bit I wanted to just mention also the mayor mentioned this the last meeting is [40:05] there's going to be unveiling of a new Memorial sign right here on the corner [40:08] of Broadway and ler um commemorate commemorating the victims of the Brinks [40:13] robbery that's on October 20th at 2 o' right before the annual event that takes [40:20] place at one mountain un I don't know if you want to say more about that but [40:23] that's it no that's perfect I just um we have date again October 20th at 2:00 [40:29] right out here right outside um we use the Village Hall steps as sort of the [40:35] the U de and U it's I'm I'm really excited [40:40] about we've got the sign we're ready to go um and it's it's I think it'll be a [40:46] great event and then it'll be followed by the by the normal memorial service [40:50] we've worked very closely with Bob vuro um under Secret Under secretary under [40:55] sheriff for for Rockman County who has been very active in following up with [41:00] the families that were affected by that since almost since the day it happened [41:05] um and uh he's he's been working with the families to make sure that they'll [41:08] be able to be here for so it's it's will be a nice event you know this is where [41:14] this is the building that the um police um station was in during that time um so [41:21] they were actually in our jail here for a while before they were transferred to [41:26] to the county Jil so very significant event on October 20th that's just so I [41:33] hope hope lot of people from the public come join [41:37] us one other item mayor I have for you a draft of our 2024 calendar work on with [41:44] Amar with circles on the dates proposed for village board [41:49] meetings and everybody can just check out with their calendars and make sure [41:53] that you don't have any you can avoid conflict [41:56] we're going want to approve this calendar before the end of the year so [41:59] people know what's going on in January February [42:02] time yeah as the board will remember we usually adopt the calendar at our [42:07] organizational meeting um we have we're still working through the details so Joe [42:11] and I have not we have to wait for Joe to actually be elected before the UN I [42:15] and start talking about it but um we're we'll work on an organizational meeting [42:21] um to ensure that all of the mayor appointments are made for next year in [42:25] the time way but that's part of it so please look [42:30] look it over make sure we've got it right and that you're available on those [42:35] days one other reminder mayor on the 26 uh we invited the um the leadership of [42:42] our climate action plan to a workshop at 645 and they had already shared [42:49] extensive documents drafted to The Village's climate action plan so now is [42:54] a great time to re-review that any questions you want to email me out [42:57] forward to Marcy and Steve and the team we try to make sure we're prepared [43:02] anything the board wants to know when they come in Andy one of the things that [43:06] I that I think we really need to think about I've read through it when first [43:12] got it and I was skimming through it as I was looking at all the SM climate [43:16] smart stuff that is coming through a mayor's conference or fin um and um [43:23] we're ahead of a lot of people and we I we need a marketing plan [43:28] to ensure that this is publicized and in a public way um and then we we take the [43:33] leadership that's what level [43:42] we this SL clent smart plan will I think put us [43:46] over but we we you know we've been taking leadership on this and I really [43:50] think we that we ought to ask them to come up with the way that they would [43:54] like to see us really put this out last week [44:00] I just got [44:03] there spaces so yeah Hastings got their bronze just before we did [44:11] as yeah this is something that we should be proud of as a village should really [44:17] put it out there what we're doing certainly with that with the [44:22] presentation and then the edits and ultimately the adoption of this plan [44:26] um it's a a lot has been done to get there but the plan includes a lot more [44:33] to do and there's been a good deal of Engagement by members of the community [44:38] some very active committees and so I think there's going [44:42] be a lot more to try it's great anything else that's all I got for [44:48] now thanks okay um old business is the request for us to consider um uh text [44:56] Amendment um that's exactly what we're doing we're not considering the text [45:02] Amendment we're considering whether we want to consider the [45:06] text so two two considers in [45:12] there um so maybe we could just um get a sense [45:18] of the um Dennis can you give us the options again you gave us what our [45:23] options are our options are to the [45:27] proposed fourth your option is to just decline to consider it and like i' said [45:34] as long as your reason for declining um is not based upon a [45:40] unconstitutional and unconstitutional ground um you don't have that's your [45:47] legislative discretion you can say you just not interested thank you um one of [45:52] the reasons could be that you think you're zoning in that particular n [45:55] neighborhood is good the way it is that's a perfectly valid reason to say [46:00] we're not interested in considering this proposed text Amendment or the village [46:05] has other priorities right now that we're focusing on and we uh not to say [46:09] that another several months this is something that we might consider but [46:13] right now we have other priorities focus on and if and if we are contemplating [46:18] considering it our next move would it be to ask for for some advisement from our [46:23] planner from our village planner yes probably ultimately we have that that's [46:29] a more formal step would be the village plan get his [46:34] thoughts so what what's the sense of the board thinking of the board at this [46:38] point on this you have a question yeah I just had a question I know from I think [46:43] a couple meetings back one Community member who lived in that area had [46:49] mentioned the person as um not meeting with them or any or talking with them [46:54] about any of the plans and they're pursuing I just wanted to know if [46:57] anything has changed has whoever the owner of this is reached out to the [47:03] community members in that area talk to them at all I'm just curious if any of [47:08] you guys know I have no idea yeah out at all [47:13] no and he's he's U we have not had any representation of the text Amendment [47:19] itself okay to the board either or to the staff just the just the doctor okay [47:26] [Music] go next to anybody anybody we don't need [47:32] to go down the line just as far as I understand it um [47:37] this involves a proposal that was already put forth I think to the was [47:41] planning board CBA that's the CBA for I guess [47:48] approval on a building plan that was a pretty ambitious pretty [47:55] ambitious uh plan uh when that was turned down they then came to us for a [48:00] text amendment that would allow by right the ability to build um I think multif [48:06] family I'm not sure what the one it would be but multif family but again we [48:09] would not be approving that we would just be referring it for [48:14] consideration um I I don't know to me I don't I think this is not right for us [48:19] and I don't think it's something that we should submit to the planning board um I [48:23] think that I from what I know um and have seen of the plan that was presented [48:29] to the zoning board I think it's something that the person who has [48:34] petitioned for both the zoning change text Amendment as well as propos the [48:39] building to the building department did not have a realistic approach to what he [48:44] was trying to build and I think that you know if he wants to do something that is [48:48] beyond what the zoning allows he should perhaps propose something that would be [48:52] a little bit more acceptable to the zoning board as as well as to the local [48:56] community even if that was more than a two family this was six family with a [49:00] pool I and things like that which was a little a [49:05] little ambitious put it that way um and so I don't think that this is [49:11] something we need to consider right now we have a lot on our plate the planning [49:13] board has a lot on their plate I think that the the the person can go back and [49:17] try to get another plan for that property approved um in the normal [49:22] course of uh of trying to get projects St can that be my opinion can I just ask [49:28] to because it was a mentioned that it's not just that lot it's like the [49:31] surrounding Lots how does that work what they're saying is that there are other [49:36] he's he's trying not to say I want a text Amendment from my own lot right so [49:40] he's saying there are number of lots that are large [49:43] enough in the in the area to accommodate larger than two family homes [49:49] theoretically none of them have bigger Lots but they could and so what what [49:53] he's saying is we should allow Parcels of this size to allow more than two [49:58] family homs the street Frontage of this amount with the side bulk size of this [50:02] amount that's that's basic I guess followup is can you do that without the [50:09] consent of the owners of those property like it does or that doesn't change [50:13] anything it would allow them to do more than they currently do so it wouldn't [50:16] need to they wouldn't need we wouldn't need their consent to pass the zoning [50:21] change um they could certainly come and talk about it if they want [50:26] we wouldn't necessarily need it's our decision if we wanted to move [50:31] forward any thoughts I I completely agree with Jo we [50:37] have so [50:41] much there this and this will take this will take a lot of study to to make sure [50:47] that we do it right that it doesn't leak into other zones it's it's not it's not [50:52] just as simple as the document sounds there's a lot of considerations that [50:57] need to be made we're working through the etpa we're working through stuff [51:01] with the LC we're working through stuff with Rock and Gardens um and other [51:06] entities and and working on affordable housing I I just think that we're we [51:11] just can't deal with this we make a vote on [51:18] this is that we're not going to take any action [51:21] yeah okay um new business was the land use technical committee and the sidewalk [51:27] repair project which we already approved so I don't think you need to tell us [51:31] about that um the land use technical is an [51:35] item right and I I explained what we're doing okay so just it's a little bit [51:41] different from I don't know if you talked about the the they proposed a [51:46] change to our sign code what what Steve said was he was sorry he couldn't make [51:53] it um he would come on the 26th and present everything but he would give us [51:58] an email explaining all the changes that the [52:02] lutc so do you think we should move the sign thing faster than that um I don't [52:08] think it's urgent mayor I just want to distinguish that because what Steve I [52:12] think is intending on presenting has to do with affordable housing and [52:15] Abus and he mentioned the he mentioned the sign thing told me he didn't want to [52:21] he didn't want on the side law question okay what do you propose how do we move [52:27] this forward well that the The Village trustee should review the the draft [52:33] amendments to the uh the sign law to the sign law which I can summarize quickly [52:39] okay why don't you do that and then we'll decide whether we want to move it [52:41] forward to legislation is that what you want right okay [52:45] so quick summary yeah it boils down to um lessening the load on the [52:52] ARB that anytime anybody comes in with any kind of change to an [52:58] existing legally existing sign it has to go ARB so ARB is saying look if it's [53:04] only going to be a simple or basic design change to a legally existing sign [53:10] you don't need to go you don't need to go to the ARB and basic or simple design [53:16] change is defined I bur you with the definition here it's pretty simple [53:21] definition but you can figure out it's a basic or simple design change does not [53:26] need to go that's all has the ARB said signed off on this yeah I think they [53:33] were one of the progenitors this was slowing them down [53:37] because they're getting approvals for minor variations to I just want to make [53:41] sure that's on the record okay so any questions about [53:46] that so why don't we go through getting it set for legislation we'll put a [53:51] public hearing out notot to do public hearing we'll do a public hearing um at [53:57] the 26 we'll set a public hearing for it and then we'll that for hearing would [54:01] not be 26 no no no no we'll consider it on [54:05] the um yeah we've got a lot of stuff on the 26 I feel like we're going to be [54:09] here till the [54:12] 28th um so [54:16] um before we move on with any other Communications to the communications [54:21] piece um there's two items that I would like to um move for um adoption one is [54:28] an executive session to discuss potential litigation and Personnel [54:32] issues need a motion in second second all in favor I oos motion [54:39] carried motion from Donna second from Joe um and the second is for us to set [54:46] public hearing for October 26 at [54:49] 800m for the opting in of considering the opting in of the etpa legislation [54:58] second that was that said right yeah I would just only supplement with the [55:03] technical term is Declaration of a house a declaration of a local housing [55:08] emergency which means consider that just to open a public hearing for the [55:13] consideration of of that soov second motion from Donna second from all in [55:19] favor I I oppose ter thank you for indulging me on that I completely forgot [55:25] those two things um Communications um you've all seen the [55:32] back and forth with um concerning thepa um you've seen the document with a [55:38] proposal from the landlords which we will [55:42] discuss um and our responses back and forth um on it I think they're think [55:48] they're it's great process we're really following a good process we've we're [55:54] moving I think think in a very very good way and I'm looking forward to the [55:58] conversations with the landlords once we have a chance to decide what what we [56:02] think is the Right Way Forward um the rest of the communications are [56:09] basically um notices to us I'm not sure that we have to take any action on any [56:14] of them at this point you don't need to take action so these are just notices of [56:20] um from the office of cannabis management um for an application for an [56:27] adult used retail dispensary within our village limits um we have we have no [56:33] reason to take any action at all they're just notifications there Daniel I know [56:38] that this is where you wanted to say something so um is there any questions [56:43] of the board first and then we'll go to public [56:46] comment [56:50] except okay we're not um Dennis I need your help here since we're not [56:55] considering anything um her um members of her family are going to speak to one [57:00] of the notices which she need to recuse herself and from that discussion from [57:06] even the presentation or are we okay to move forward there's no there's no [57:11] action that the board can take on these notices that received from the office of [57:17] C you probably get once in a while from the state Li Authority we get them all [57:21] the time yeah wasn't time probably all the time they're ignored because there's [57:26] really not much for you guys to do with anything so what we should do is put [57:30] into the rec which I think you've already done [57:33] that so that's in the record there's no question about [57:37] that I will I will not make any comments even though we just we're not going to [57:42] make any comments we're happy to hear everything that anybody has to say but [57:46] there's no there's no no reason for us to have comments at this point we'll [57:50] take anything under advisement that people bring to us but there really we [57:53] don't have anything to consider so I I also can I also P to the record that I [57:58] have a vague sense that one of these properties might [58:01] involve um some sort of relationship with rant commercial which is a real [58:06] estate company that I have a financial interest in I don't actually know if we [58:10] do but on the possibility that there might be I just want to have on the [58:14] record that um if any action was taken I would recuse from the action and um that [58:20] I don't have any personal knowledge of any any of the actions being [58:24] contemplated here [58:28] okay public comment what does that [58:37] me yeah um recuse recusals are if you're going to vote on something that you have [58:43] a financial or fiscal um you can gain something from it then you would recuse [58:49] yourself from the vote the fact that we're not having any votes now where [58:53] these both individuals have said what they might recuse themselves [58:57] from if we did consider something but there's no purpose or reason for there [59:02] to be a recuse does that answer your question sir okay sir good evening my [59:08] name is Daniel an 863 Avenue in N so I'm I'm talk I'm coming to make a request to [59:15] you again um in terms of the bmu one and two zones and as it relates to [59:26] permitting cannabis facilities um the [59:31] law Zing laws is written currently um basically says everything [59:39] complemented in the dmu1 is permitted in dmu2 except for three things first one [59:46] is dmu2 zones allows for um apartments on the ground floor it's not allowed in [59:53] the dmu1 but that's an incentive there's an [59:58] incentive for people in that part of the zone to perhaps um put apartments on the [1:00:04] ground floor then you have a height um [1:00:10] incentive in exchange for affordable housing in the dmu1 it's not allowed in [1:00:16] dmu2 but again you're incentivizing creative uses of housing [1:00:21] so you're rewarding the uh the property owners in a certain way um [1:00:29] by those things whereas with the cannabis use you're actually prohibiting [1:00:35] specific just one specific commercial use to property owners in [1:00:41] dmu2 um why reading them differently for that one specific use and I think that's [1:00:48] unfair so I'm asking you again I would urge the board to pass a resolution [1:00:54] stating that the Cannabis facilities that are permitted in the mu1 zones are [1:00:59] also permitted in the mu2 zones thank you thank you Daniel we we will review [1:01:05] that and um and discuss it with but not tonight thank you any other public [1:01:11] comments on any [1:01:17] item hearing none on board reports Marie you want to start us off I usually pick [1:01:23] on Pascal Marie want to start nothing to report it's only been nothing since last [1:01:31] week we we have one sign thing went to all three of us [1:01:39] actually the um the cand yes there was a candle light [1:01:46] Memorial at city courthouse on Tuesday Tuesday night right which was a very [1:01:52] well-run event and very Sol very sad [1:01:58] situation yes that's Donna you want to go next go [1:02:04] down we can go next I have a question in my whatever we going I have um I haven't [1:02:12] been to a Housing Authority meeting in a while there hasn't been any and I heard [1:02:16] today that they changed the day you know no that would be up to [1:02:22] their board they should inform [1:02:26] represent okay I'll check [1:02:32] with um just sort of a quas eye announcement which I'm sure we all talk [1:02:37] about is The Rockin Riverway Trail visibility study I'm very excited about [1:02:42] it I like to ride my bike on the KN Beach Trail and it would nice it would [1:02:46] be nice to see that expand and also make our Roose a little bit safer get less [1:02:50] bikes on Broadway decongest that area oning the weekends so so everyone should [1:02:55] try to attend it's on October 17th um you can drop in between 6:30 and 9:00 [1:03:00] p.m. at Roth bosies the gymnasium also known as I believe the old night high [1:03:05] school for those o people the date again um it's October 17 are you calling me an [1:03:11] OG is that what she just called me sure only OG swim in [1:03:18] the so um I'm really it's um between 6:30 and 9:00 p.m. um I'm excited about [1:03:25] it so I think everyone should also be excited about it too and as we said [1:03:31] earlier you know praying for peace um praying for all the victims um and you [1:03:36] know hoping to see better days in the future [1:03:41] than um I've been talking the whole time so I don't have anything to to add to [1:03:46] what I've said um so um I will entertain a motion to move into next session some [1:03:55] second all in favor motion carried thank you thank you everyone for joining us [1:04:00] tonight I hope we were [1:04:09] entertaining next meeting I should say not next [1:04:16] meeting