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She's ready.

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All right, let's morning everybody, rise with me if you like for Pastor John Biggs from

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Save by Grace Lutheran Church.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Good morning, commissioners. And thank you for having me here today.

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A word from Romans chapter 12. All right, hate. What is evil? Clean to what is good.

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Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Share with those who

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in need, practice hospitality. Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but respect when is right

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in the eyes of everyone. And if it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live it peace

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with everyone. The Word of the Lord, thanks be to God.

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Let us pray.

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Almighty God, you have called us the labor in this world for you and for our neighbor, and without you,

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can do nothing. And so we ask you today for your wisdom, discernment and guidance, both for our

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Nikoni Commissioners as well as for all those who are gathered here today. So give our commissioners

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clear minds, listening ears, and fair hearts as they make decisions affecting our county's

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budget infrastructure in daily well-being, grant them humility, and a deep sense of service

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to the people they represent. And by your spirit grant, every person who has come here today

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wisdom and their thinking grace in their attitudes and above all love and courage in their

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convictions in Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor. All right. We're going to call

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this joint meeting of the 9 County Board of County Commissioners at all together. Commissioner,

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We'll call it, would you like to lead us?

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Through the flag, the United States of America.

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To the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation, another law,

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another small.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Do we have our DA in total?

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Morning, Brian.

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Hey, can we limit public comment to two minutes, please?

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At your tourist discretion.

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Thank you.

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Two minute public comment.

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Number two, please.

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Item 2, general public comment, up to 2 minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

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Thank you very much for that. Come on down Mr. Pippman and it is not functioning today, but it will be next meeting.

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Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N. Now that the Department of Environmental Protection has given

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a green light to many ways, will you deny building occupancy and operating permits? Who

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does the inspection of waste to ensure that it does not include prohibited items specified

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on pages three and four of the permit fact sheet? There is, as yet, no end-depth approved plan

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for the disposal of residue ash in Nevada. How will the exhaust from the process be monitored

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and by whom, and Trump Valley Fire effectively respond to a fire at the facility, the Chief

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just told me that he has to revisit the facility to see that it is in compliance.

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This is not the kind of industry for up needs.

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My second item is why this Commissioner Bane used a personal Gmail account when the other

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commissioners use the official at nighcountynv.gov account that are archived on county

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servers.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Oh, yes.

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Sam, we know.

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Any else?

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That's going.

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A couple of things.

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We can change the items.

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People that are familiar with what's going on.

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And even those that are.

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I have a tough time reading.

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What these items are about?

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If might be the best thing to do is to inform the public what they're about, basically,

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and in a shorter format.

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And the other thing is public comment, I was going to ask if you would put it back

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to five minutes, but I now realize that it doesn't matter that we have public comment.

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And you would do a way with it all together if you could, and that's unfortunate.

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You have a good meeting.

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Thank you.

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I'm going down in the front, please.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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And everybody, best for a seven.

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Bill R. Y. S. E. W. I.

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I'm really happy to be here.

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I haven't been here, but I have been working really hard behind the scenes.

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You know, the dirt race track that's up on Basin, people were interested in having that

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renovated, however the land has been sold and so it's not available.

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So I've already put together a prospectus investments.

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You name it, I've got like a 45-page document that I'd like to talk to somebody on the

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commission here so that we can find some land away from homes and not at the fairgrounds

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one of these race tracks, it would be a very good income producing activity for the town, not only in RVs,

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but in going to the stores and charges for getting into the races. So I think that's like a

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high priority you should put on your list of income producing activities. The splash pad is a total

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discussed. Have you guys seen the season to sister order? You have. You've not shared it with

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the county. Well, I'll be getting a copy tomorrow. I'll be sharing it with everybody. We want

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to talk to somebody about what we're going to do about this. It is the town's money and Mr.

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Martinez in his group screwed up or oily. We need to fix that. Big time. Metaways, you know,

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was approved. I've got forms available for people that might want to fill it out and mail it

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in with potential suggestions and how to fill in all of the different form areas. And I've

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also got the original approval letter that must go with your complaint. So I've been busy

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and I'll be around a lot again, so don't get mad at CM me, but I'll be here. Thanks.

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welcome back. And I agree with you. I know, but Joey here. I told

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up please. I convinced her to go. Yes, I see her smiling face. Go ahead, Miss

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Johnny. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. The old ton of

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pass cemetery was in use between 1901 and 1911 in ton of

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Very early days, until the West End mining company needed to move through that area with its tailings.

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And included in the burials in that cemetery, besides minors and prostitutes, gunfighters, men, women and children,

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are many veterans, more than 20 veterans of the American Civil War, the Spanish American War,

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and the Philippine insurrection. I worked with the Senator Edward D. Baker, Camp 31,

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sons of the Union veterans of the Civil War in Las Vegas, and we ordered headstones

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through the Veterans Administration, which is free for nine of those veterans of these wars.

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We are going to be dedicating those headstones and the reenactors will be coming up from Las Vegas at 1 o'clock on September 6th, that's a Sunday and we're going to hold a formal dedication of those headstones and we'll even have cannons there to set off to commemorate this event.

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After words, there will be a reception at the Tone Upon Elk's Lodge.

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This is just an invitation for anybody who would like to participate.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Jonie.

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Very nice to see you.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak on your name for the record.

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I'm on to almost hurt.

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Good morning.

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Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

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I would like, if you would please, in your comment section,

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This morning to answer to us who's the person who decides how many minutes the public has to speak and how that's decided.

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I think we'd all like to know that having just sprung two-minute limitations on us this morning without warning.

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Secondly, in that comment section, I would appreciate it if you would reinstate your affirming

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statements and actions that met a waste is not in a position to open a facility here in

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as has been discussed in the past and whether or not you're going to write a letter of protests

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to the environmental protection state agency about it. As you know, we citizens are absolutely

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not in favor, absolutely against, metaways coming into this community and I would hope that

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you continue to make sure that doesn't happen.

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Also, it would like to comment and reaffirm

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the fact that we know that we have limited water resources

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in our water basin.

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And I would seriously like to know why the RPC is allowed to

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and doesn't have any kind of direction or limitation

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regarding approval of massive housing projects

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and massive industrial projects in our basin.

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These requests keep coming through.

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Thank you.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

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Please, speak on your name for the record.

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Yes, my Patricia Vahov, RLBB, regarding the utility challenge not from the problem seems to be stagnant.

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When risk analysis becomes risk paralysis, because possible solutions that don't further impact our offer,

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or burden other taxpayers are rejected over what could go wrong progress does not happen.

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So instead of thinking what if something goes wrong, maybe you should be asking, how can we make this work safely for these owners?

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Based on our interactions with the board over the last year and a half, I'm not sensing that alternatives are genuinely being considered.

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It knows more like they're continually being pushed aside, yet our entire community had

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benefit from supplemental alternatives, not just utility challenge, but owners.

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We're not saying alternatives are better than conventional utilities, but they do.

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Offer a pathway forward for corrupt where utility infrastructure may not exist in our lifetime, if ever. And saying to go wrong, isn't really a standard, conventional systems can go wrong too. Wells can become contaminated, and septic systems can fail. Yet, government doesn't normally say because somebody fails to maintain something nobody can use it.

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So, are we evaluating alternatives against objective health and safety standards or

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against belief that conventional utilities are the only acceptable way to meet those standards?

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When alternatives can meet them too, having supplemental water back at should simply be common sense for everyone?

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We've identified the problems, proposed safeguards drafted amendments, ordinances provided justification and

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identified supporting state laws.

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Thank you for moving forward.

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Hello and from.

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Go ahead.

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Why?

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Good morning.

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Cheryl Varkales.

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Vies and Victor.

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ARKALIS.

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On behalf of Perumpt, please submit an appeal to the Nevada Department of Environmental Protection

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to oppose the MetaWaste.

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Time is of the essence and appeals are due by September the 10th.

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The middle of Peromp is not the place for this facility that will burn 41 tons a day.

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They changed that number.

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In their comment document that was sent out on August 31st, and we haven't had a lot of time

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to review it, it was originally 16.8.

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They stated that they corrected an error, so the number has doubled almost doubled in half.

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So somebody needs to look at that, please.

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Hundreds of people attended and spoke at the Nevada Treasures on July 7.

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The meeting room was packed, it was a ballroom, and everyone there except for the folks

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from mid-Awaist were in an opposition.

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But they approved end-up, end-up, approved it despite 334 public comments, that's their number.

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They improperly executed mandatory procedural requirements under NAC444.6419.

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We have to have a legal basis, and that is one of them.

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They failed to properly document published, or logically fact, or substantial public feedback

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into the final decision.

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They admitted in their response, it simply states, quote, given the volume of comments received

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The division is prepared to consolidate a response in lieu of individual responses to each submission comments are grouped by subject matter.

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And I quote from their response, comments concerning air quality,

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county land use approvals, transportation, property values,

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other matters outside the division's authority are only acknowledged.

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Last time I checked air quality is an end up environmental protection issue.

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Thank you very much, ma'am.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair, the Collarants Unmuted.

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Please, Speaker and Spel your name for the record.

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Excuse me.

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This is Paula Thompson, THOMP, MPSON.

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I also would like to know if the board will be submitting a field

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to oppose the med waste plant in the room.

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Our community is not a dumping ground for California,

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but California is dealing with their own medical waste

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on their own land and leave us alone.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, come on down, ma'am.

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Sharon Cruz, normally I would say...

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Could you spell it for the right time?

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Sorry, CRU, ISE.

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Thank you.

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Normally I'd say good morning, however, this is not a good morning for the residents.

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Yes, today, as you all know, the Department of Environmental Protection,

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granted many ways there are permit to function here.

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So I employ all of you.

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To keep the residents of Perumps safe by taking immediate action to stop many ways

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operating in downtown. The action of him's up is outrageous. It's an outrageous disregard for the

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safety and well-being of those of us living in Perum.

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They will send daily. Multiple 53-foot

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tractor trailers with toxic medical ways from California traveling on out two major roadways,

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Route 372, with two roundabouts, and Route 160, which is a center of town.

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Not if, but when there is an accident causing toxic medical waste to spill on our roadways,

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it will shut out town down causing catastrophic damage to the health and safety of the

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The infection viruses, like HIV, hepatitis B and C, exposing pathogens that are airborne, that lead to severe

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outbreaks of tuberculosis, gastrointestinal infections, and respiratory illnesses. Not to mention

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the contamination of basin 162, our only source of water. Due to untreated pharmaceuticals,

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But Bob has its enchemical solvents rapidly, leaching downward, resulting in our entire water

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infrastructure being permanently corrupted.

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Why achieve fluids has already stated that his department does not have the capacity to handle

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a hazardous water spill.

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By the way, the additional.

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Thank you very much, ma'am.

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That's okay.

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I'll leave the rest for.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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You can leave it with serene if you'd like.

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Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

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Please, please, speak and follow your name for the record.

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Good morning, Commissioner.

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We're rain, GIO, BETRT.

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Once again, I am sorry I'm not there in purchase.

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I am sending you good energy.

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So I would acknowledge to make decisions that matter

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and make a difference on behalf of those that you represent.

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I would also just ask you to please not forget those that have been forgotten for the last

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50 years.

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The utility challenge was owners.

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Some of you will be leaving this board of county commissioners at the end of this year,

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let that be your legacy that you finally brought, rest of the tuition and piece.

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and restored value. I know that the Alumni Regional Planning Commission was working on

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a off-grid overlay. I would encourage you to continue to work with them. It does matter,

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and it makes a difference to 7,000 lives. In addition, the meta-waste, I am just a call.

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How that was brought forward when I was at that meeting at treasures and it was overwhelming the number of people that said no

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I'm not saying that medical waste isn't needed but not in the location where is it going in

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I do not want to drive my car to EMB to renew my text to have to breathe in that stuff

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I don't want to shop at Albert since just down the street and it has to breathe at in.

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I don't want to go to one of my favorite restaurants or cafes or visits shops that I

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shop in that area. It is just not a safe venture for us and I would hope that you would use your

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and your authority to whipper that decision by on those permits.

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And again, Mr. Lorraine, I ask you.

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Come on down, Diane.

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Diane Saltooth, S.O.U.U.T.H. W.O.R.T.H.

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For a little levity, I saw on Facebook,

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where we want to make September 25th,

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the party day.

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And I think it's a great idea.

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And of course the reason is the date, nine, two, five.

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Now, also I'd like to bring up, that's my good news.

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The bad news is that the executive or the president is putting

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out voting about vote by mail and the Save Act are unconstitutional.

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It is up to the states to do their elections.

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And these are unconstitutional rules.

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I have set hair many times and listen to people wave their

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constitutions around over other things I'd like to see them get out of that one.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Diane.

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Sam anybody on the phone please?

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak in spelling your name for the record.

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Yes, Kimbo.

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The OHA in an OM.

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I'm concerned that there seems to be a reducing or cut back a public comment.

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There's a couple of situations on today that there will be a cutback of public comment and some not allowed.

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So, you know, the people need to be able to have voice.

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Even if it seems trivial, even if it seems all face, we have to have a voice.

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And that's where we come on.

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Candidates?

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Pay attention to it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Come on down.

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Please improve.

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They're a lackey L.A.C.K.E.Y.

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The problem that we have here that you can...

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Guys, it's the manufactured homes. The people that live in the manufactured homes, that's your problem.

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See, they're not that tax, you know, not like the big houses with a ceramic tile roof in the block walls.

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And they're going to be tax forever, every single thing. But there also also other developments are all on an infrastructure, so that it could be easily piped in from water from, say,

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Cart County or something like that later on after our water's bad gone dead

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Kill in everybody

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From your waist the stuff that you're bringing in you're bringing it in and you're trying to chase out the people

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It don't have a lot of money. That's what it is. I mean, it's all about the money

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Your whole lives are just

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leasing off other people working for government not doing anything good just bringing in more bad

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taking the money from the bad elements and just producing it, whatever, whatever trickles

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down from above, nothing having to do with the people. And God, we trust, right? Behind

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you, good thing it's behind you. Something would fall on your head. If you were facing

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up, freeze all day. But, you know, here we are. You know, it's all about the water. So now

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once the water's bad, all the money making properties for you guys are all going to be easily

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fed from a pipe from somewhere else because they're already tied together. They're already

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system. You know that. That's where you got them come together. You don't see them all spread out.

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Once in a while, you'll see another development, well, like the one right behind. Well, it's all about

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the water. Well, for you guys, all about getting the people on here living, man, you've fashioned homes.

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I think that's what you're mission is pretty clear. How much money you got to put one of those

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properties, got to mean you've fashioned home on some sort. You don't get much tax money for those

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properties as you do for the ones with the block walls.

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Thanks, girl.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Um, excuse me.

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All right.

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She can leave.

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And, Chair, the caller is not unmuted.

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I'm having a system issue.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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Come on down, please.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Commissioners.

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My name is Mary Rose.

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Last name is Parkman.

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Spelled.

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AARK and AN. It's a little bit of a tough act to follow, so let me start off with something.

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There's a Greek philosopher that once said,

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we have two ears and one mouth. That means to please listen twice as much as we speak.

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And ironically, here I am speaking, but I'm asking you to listen, please,

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And my concern is I understand in the instances of August 18 when there were 203 comments between in-person and calls.

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And I know that there's a budget expectation when that many more calls come in.

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But why is it necessary for the BOCC to announce two minutes or so into the start of a meeting?

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or maybe 10.05 a.m. that the comments are reduced to two minutes when you can tell, we don't

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have 200 people think at capacity so that is a concern. As to meta waste, I don't need to repeat

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too much, but I would implore the community and B.O.C.C to reach out to assembly Manhattan.

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but I've been told this is a state issue, not a county issue, which I entirely disagree.

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So I think we need to do the same as there were 300 people at the Treasures Town Hall,

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which was a very big appeal to Nevada Department of Environmental Protection.

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So for those reasons, I appreciate you listening twice as much, even though I'm speaking with one

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I represent a lot of others. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

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Same to anybody on the phone, please.

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I'm still out of basis.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, um, in-for-um, please.

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Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

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I was a little late coming in, so I was not aware of the two-minute reduction again.

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I don't know what the excuse can be for that, but this time,

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besides, you guys trying to silence us even more.

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Starting with that, again, I'm requesting, or Mrs. Strickling, to be cuter-solve,

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from any and all matters regarding utility companies or data centers.

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Next, the Medi-Baste.

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How in the world did the planning commission?

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Basically, get media-based, a blank check to build whatever they wanted on that site. No inquisition on to what it's

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entailed, what hazards could be, nothing. And then this board decided it wasn't worth them to review

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or even to vote on. How is that possible?

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I like an answer on that one, because now we're screwed,

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But you guys already knew this because that's the way that's the reason you did it that way now

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It's in the Nevada State Environmental Agency that's trying to get their lawyers to fight our fight for us

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This is the most incomprehensible I've ever seen and for what you guys get paid and my apologies last time I spoke I said 260,000

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Mr. Wagner. I was wrong. It's 316,000 that you earn a year. So laugh at me now

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laugh at me now I

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like we spend over, we spend $64 million in county payroll.

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But yet we brought in 57.7 million,

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explained that to me.

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And then we have things like the splash pad,

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and Mrs. Strickland here's gonna sit here

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and praise Jimmy Martinez for the work done.

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Are you kidding me?

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I like to know who on here is qualified

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to even look at a blueprint.

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Apparently nobody, you guys can't even do so much

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apply a splash pad right let alone something like the data center other than many ways

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same anybody on the phone now please yes to the colors are muted please speak

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and spell your name for the record

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yes I'm Martin and M.O.R. T.I.N. S.O.L.A.

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and first of all I said I can say that John Coling on the wonderful job he did

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is good in the meeting a couple meetings pass it went very very smoothly you know

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if he had John Coling during the meetings maybe he wouldn't feel the need to

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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I don't want to cast any dispersions, but before I get started, and you please spell your name

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for the record, sir.

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Oh, I haven't started yet.

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I just want to do an insertion before I get started.

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No, no, that's not your starting.

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This means the rules on me, but anyway, my name is on for hard, and greetings, I'm a patriot, and a God is my shepherd.

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Media is not a friend of the public at large.

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I am amazed at the lack of empathy and concern for each and every human being on the planet,

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regardless of their status, where is the crowd now, where are the Christian people,

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where is their mercy and feelings for other human beings, where are they, first I ask the

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question, when something goes wrong, when is the leadership, protect and serve, what does

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that mean? Are they just words? Are they just pertain to one segment of the population?

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Where are you finding these people to serve in low enforcement? Are they high-calibu?

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Are they just a body and a uniform? Are they really trained to work with the public?

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I hear often times with their own regime, they have personnel to conflict.

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In this area, we need good leaders and good people in that job that really protect and

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serve.

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I was motivated by the newspaper.

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It reminded how blacks, so I'm from that era, were treated in Mississippi by law enforcement

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and the sixties. This must stop all the soccer continues. We must find we must have

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and well-trained people in these jobs. Thank you. It also have patience. Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Hodges, can we have can we have that rent for our records, please? Can you provide? Can you give

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that staff so we can have it for our records? Please, she can give it to someone. Thank you.

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Amy, you got anybody on the phone, please?

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Right.

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All right.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

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No chair.

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Come on up, please.

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I can go.

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Yes.

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I'm in the Clark, CLE, R.K. First of all,

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I won't say it. I want to thank Ian for giving us the ban.

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Not sure how far we're going to get with it, but at least we got something to start with and work with, as far as the other thing is going on in this town. Definitely don't need a way center. We don't need a glove factory.

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We don't need a lot of things that you guys have put in front of us, but we keep getting it.

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We keep fighting. I just want to let you know elections do have consequences, so be prepared.

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The other thing I want to say is it's really embarrassing to live in this community and know

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that we have a government that doesn't support its people. Thank you.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

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I don't know why the screen is going on.

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No chair.

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Come on up, sir.

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Don't know why you do hear us.

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Okay.

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Yes, we hear you a lot.

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Well, thank you.

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Go ahead, sir.

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Good morning, everyone.

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Bruce Johnson, GOHN, SLN.

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And first of all, I'm going to question your authority

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to remove this lady.

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I'm going to question your authority on your action.

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So I'm going to start off with a little scripture here.

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And this is a Luke Lemp 52, especially since we probably have a couple attorneys out here in the seats.

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And it says, well, until you lawyers, for you have taken away the key in knowledge,

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you entered not into yourselves, and now that we're entering any ye, entered.

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Now, I'm going to move on to, you guys, received a new notice from me this morning should be in your inbox.

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I don't know if you took the time to read it or not, but it's only one page pretty simple and you probably don't give a rat's booty

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But I really don't care because it's my quarter record

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So this is tall of you including breadwagon or Susan Ryan Hall Susan Steve Osborne

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Camerada, sure of Joe McGill

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It's also addressed as a stream court and Tom Blanch, Donald Trump and and I'll tell you you sit there and roll your eyes

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They already have a copy of this, so

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Notice, and this is a notice in demand for liability, all attorneys,

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advising upon the rights of the people.

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Notice pages, notice principle, notice principles, notice page and diverse shots.

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One of the people has seen in 50 state constitutions of right, neck-sizing power over all jurisdictions.

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And include you.

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Do you present you with this notice that you and your agents may provide immediate, clear, please take notice?

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We, the people, have assembled and realized that as servants, that you guys may have attorneys who

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advise you on what you can do in regards to unconstitutionalizing power over the people.

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However, as servants, it is you who put out, thank you sir.

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Action.

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Do we not go down the phone?

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That's all right.

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I'll have a safer copy here.

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Come on up in Perum, please.

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Anthony Greco, GRECO.

459
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as a chair for the Nike County Independent American Party for Nike County and the National Committee for the Constitution Party.

460
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:44,830
On September 17th, we are having a Constitution dinner celebrating George Washington.

461
00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:51,550
Speakers will be telling us about our constitutional civil and our property rights.

462
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:56,550
And we're going to be having some speakers who've been extorted by some people in the community.

463
00:38:56,550 --> 00:39:02,430
So, that will be at Treasures at 6 o'clock at night on September 17th, Constitution Day.

464
00:39:02,730 --> 00:39:06,350
Take it to our available, 877 Parompas, the phone number.

465
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:10,600
Thank you, Sam, anybody in the phone please?

466
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:13,840
No chair.

467
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:14,880
Come on down, Tammy.

468
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Good morning.

469
00:39:20,340 --> 00:39:22,400
Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N.

470
00:39:24,990 --> 00:39:27,530
Metaways is going to come back to the Board of County Commissioner.

471
00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:31,370
It's just because N-depth gave them a pass, does not mean

472
00:39:31,370 --> 00:39:32,930
the Parompas to approve.

473
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:41,010
Several months ago, the BOCC directed Mr. Osborne to give regular planning and permit status updates at the BOCC meetings.

474
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:46,870
We've not heard from Mr. Osborne since, but the citizens should know there are good news on the horizon.

475
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:53,290
Recently, I learned that Kobe, manufacturing is slating to plant here at the home, behind Home Depot.

476
00:39:53,290 --> 00:39:58,990
not far from there at the old racetrack is a non-savagus company that manufactures building

477
00:39:58,990 --> 00:39:59,950
crosses which is

478
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,220
Move its operations to perform. A large plumbing supply company and a's hardware owner are renting the good old good

479
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:14,680
wheel building for two years to house both a plumbing supply company and a's hardware while they build their own facility here in town.

480
00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:24,440
And the silver tennis still in the hopper as well. We have lots to celebrate. We do not need to be a toxic waste repository for the southwest.

481
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,200
We have a lot to offer, and we deserve better than to live in a toxic soup.

482
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:37,520
As we live in a valley surrounded by 360 degrees of mountains, the toxic gases released

483
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,180
when they opened those ovens would hang in the valley.

484
00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:46,180
Later this month, due to a hard fought appeal, thank you to John O'Brien.

485
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,920
You will have the ability to reverse the RPC's decision, and we are counting on you.

486
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:52,820
Thank you.

487
00:40:53,340 --> 00:40:55,920
Thank you, Sarah, everybody on the phone, please.

488
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,660
That's chair.

489
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,660
The caller is unmuted.

490
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,580
Please speak in the spoken name for the record.

491
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:04,470
Hello, commissioners.

492
00:41:04,570 --> 00:41:06,570
Michael David Garcia, a GARC.

493
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,250
Can you hear me?

494
00:41:08,490 --> 00:41:09,250
My tone and volume.

495
00:41:09,650 --> 00:41:10,770
Okay, for you.

496
00:41:12,660 --> 00:41:12,900
I'm sorry.

497
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,320
Go answer.

498
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:14,060
Hello.

499
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:17,970
Hello.

500
00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:18,950
Can you hear me?

501
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:19,950
Go ahead, sir.

502
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:22,450
Oh, thank you.

503
00:41:22,450 --> 00:41:22,890
Thank you.

504
00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:24,170
I appreciate it.

505
00:41:24,590 --> 00:41:27,010
That'd be Michael David Garcia, a GARC.

506
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:34,830
And once again, I'm still baffled on my free speech and what's protected here.

507
00:41:35,530 --> 00:41:41,050
So if it's state and federal guidelines that I'm not allowed to talk about, I respectfully ask

508
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:46,210
for you to ask for you all to remove those flags, if I'm not allowed to pray and quote

509
00:41:46,210 --> 00:41:53,310
scripture, I'm going to respectfully ask for you to put that sign down in God we trust.

510
00:41:53,310 --> 00:41:58,670
And when it comes to product stores in an official oppression, and just want to remind

511
00:41:58,670 --> 00:42:06,370
all you all, when it comes to USC title, 18 subsection, 6, 6, 6, 6, kind of a quinky

512
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:07,090
didn't come.

513
00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:09,530
And you all know what that is?

514
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:15,430
I'm sure you haven't had any training, but anyway, that's a set of federal programs.

515
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:24,710
and may y'all fall in your own traps, great job, Mr. Hodges, Bruce Johnson, Rekko, Verizon.

516
00:42:26,130 --> 00:42:30,150
The true Christians don't have to be asked, who shall I send?

517
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:31,910
They already know.

518
00:42:32,770 --> 00:42:38,350
And for all my state and federal representatives, I want you to take note of Deborah Strickland.

519
00:42:38,850 --> 00:42:44,170
When it comes to women speaking out against the Epstein, I'm not allowed to talk about him.

520
00:42:44,170 --> 00:42:49,590
We're seconded, she forbids it, she violated my first amendment.

521
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:58,510
Take note, women, daughters, sisters, mothers, grandmothers, who's protecting who?

522
00:42:59,290 --> 00:43:05,090
The ALJ's number one asset, it's not just Captain Berkowitz, thank you.

523
00:43:07,390 --> 00:43:08,230
Good

524
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,220
morning, Darrell Witt, W.A.D.

525
00:43:16,220 --> 00:43:19,940
I just want to thank you all for being here, of crowd today.

526
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:21,100
Have a good day.

527
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:22,120
Thank you.

528
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:23,960
Sam, anybody else on the phone, please?

529
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:27,710
Yes, Chair, the color is unmuted.

530
00:43:28,070 --> 00:43:29,590
Please, speak of the spoken name for the record.

531
00:43:33,870 --> 00:43:37,990
In a bond to coogling, KUG, L.I. and.

532
00:43:38,190 --> 00:43:40,750
As you are aware, well, aware I have an attendance.

533
00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:45,930
I'm meeting in a long time publicly because my life is in danger when I'm there.

534
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:49,990
But I'm actually surprised that how many of the public

535
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:56,510
has not stood up to you guys and stopped you from changing policy procedure and protocol

536
00:43:56,510 --> 00:44:00,150
that is already in your books.

537
00:44:00,510 --> 00:44:01,750
That is your supposed to be following.

538
00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:05,710
Joe McGill has no authority in those chambers.

539
00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:08,250
Those chambers belong to the public.

540
00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:16,050
And I'm surprised that the public that is in that room right now is allowing this to go on.

541
00:44:16,050 --> 00:44:24,050
This calls for a class action lawsuit, which I believe is already in the works against some of the commissioners.

542
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:29,990
I understand that the two of you have lost and you don't care about your behavior or your community anymore,

543
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:37,610
but the disrespect and the disregard to the public to some of the women the way you speak to them wrong.

544
00:44:38,170 --> 00:44:43,510
You should be ashamed of yourself because I know if I was in that chamber and you spoke to me the way you do.

545
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:48,430
I wouldn't stand for it. You have no authority to remove anybody from those chambers.

546
00:44:48,830 --> 00:44:51,870
Those chambers don't belong to you. They belong to the public.

547
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:54,690
You guys are leasing those buildings to use them.

548
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:59,970
And I cannot stab them. Why no one else is not.

549
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:14,820
Any time you tell the sheriff to remove somebody from those chambers. When you practice the first amendment, make sure it's followed by the second and then covered by the fifth. Thank you.

550
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,100
Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.

551
00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:32,450
Thank you. Good morning, Dwight Lily. I'm here to speak out against flock cameras and surveillance systems that we see all across the land right now.

552
00:45:32,450 --> 00:45:37,530
and I've done some research on this, and from the flock companies perspective,

553
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:42,610
well we're just reading ISIS plates and the information disappears after a few minutes.

554
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:44,710
But this is not true.

555
00:45:45,350 --> 00:45:55,690
There are cases, example, in Kentucky, of a law enforcement officer, using the flock camera system to scope out his former girlfriend,

556
00:45:55,690 --> 00:46:02,870
2000 times using the system to track her, where she was going, what's she was doing? And this

557
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:08,450
is a complete violation of our fourth amendment when you're using a system like that. As I understand

558
00:46:08,450 --> 00:46:15,130
we have one set of flood cameras here in front, I'd like to see a band completely. I don't think

559
00:46:15,130 --> 00:46:20,770
we could trust the system in place here, be it law enforcement, be the government itself,

560
00:46:20,770 --> 00:46:27,390
to have a flux system, type, camera system, surveillance system that could infringe upon.

561
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:32,330
People here be used for in a various reasons that they weren't designed for.

562
00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:32,990
Thank you.

563
00:46:33,350 --> 00:46:35,230
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

564
00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:37,030
No chair.

565
00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:37,610
No chair?

566
00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:38,350
No chair on Mr. Limis.

567
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:46,040
I think your button's not on there, buddy.

568
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,500
Right there, there we go.

569
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,380
Mike, check one, two, one, two.

570
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,760
Paul, Limis, LEM, U.S.

571
00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:01,320
And I'm going to run into a Mark 7 quote that came to mind when all this was going on.

572
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:07,340
We're out in the Amargosa Valley area, just a little ways further from you here, and we

573
00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:09,960
own land there that's backed up to the Ashmetos property.

574
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:12,980
So today I wanted to just read you real quick.

575
00:47:13,060 --> 00:47:18,800
This is by the way, brought to you from the businessman global businessman fellowship group.

576
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,100
They have asked me personally to read this.

577
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:26,540
And this Bible, I'm reading from today, is Mr. Jim Marshall, the casino owner's personal

578
00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:30,620
Bible that he has lent me to read today, just so that it's on the record.

579
00:47:31,860 --> 00:47:33,500
For they all saw him

580
00:47:36,420 --> 00:47:42,600
and were terrified, but immediately he spoke with them and said to them,

581
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:51,380
take courage, it is I, do not be afraid, then he got into the boat with them and the wind

582
00:47:51,380 --> 00:48:01,240
stopped, and they were utterly astonished. So that's kind of a unique Bible verse to me

583
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:08,000
because it's the accepting of the God is within all of us. It's all of our job to make

584
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,920
this stuff right. And these folks are given the tool of this board and local ordinances

585
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:19,120
up to this point. What we're infringing on now is a new beginning of changes. We're having

586
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:27,980
states attack town cities. It's a very unique time, but to disregard their power and all the

587
00:48:27,980 --> 00:48:33,180
work that they've done in a county to build up this system for all of us would only weaken us.

588
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,900
I know it gets frustrating and sometimes we just want to, you know, kill the messenger.

589
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:43,300
But the messenger is only part of the big picture. We need to make sure that we all consider

590
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,680
state is who's attacking us. Thank you. Thank you, Paul. Sam anybody on the phone please.

591
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,440
No chair.

592
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,460
Come on down, Deborah.

593
00:48:57,660 --> 00:49:02,080
Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

594
00:49:03,940 --> 00:49:14,720
I sometimes, there are agenda items in front of this committee and other committees that

595
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:19,520
little, the little breakout groups. I don't want to call them breakout groups, but

596
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:33,860
there, I don't know what you call. But, for instance, the finance committee, and I think

597
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:40,680
that it would be very helpful to the public if we saw the numbers as well. And I also

598
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,740
think it would be very helpful to the public if we had a clue what was going to be

599
00:49:47,180 --> 00:49:53,140
talked about so we could do some research on it. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Thank you.

600
00:49:54,620 --> 00:49:56,340
Thank you. Come on down, Gerald.

601
00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:12,040
In one commissioner's Gerald Schulti, SCH, ULTE. I know many by my tongue on a lot of things, but I heard Mr. Lackey get up here and talk some stupid shit.

602
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:28,810
Mr. Lackey, this town has an majority of manufactured homes in over the last 20 years. They are converted to real property and they generate a minimum of $2,000 per parcel.

603
00:50:28,810 --> 00:50:33,710
per home in this town. You're living in the old and days when you live in that

604
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:37,890
travel trader on that little lot that you still live on occasionally and

605
00:50:37,890 --> 00:50:41,030
you have no idea what you're talking about again when you come up to this

606
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:48,070
microphone. So I just want to correct what you said. Manufactured home owners pay

607
00:50:48,070 --> 00:50:56,120
just as much property tax as any stick belt value per value. Thank you very much

608
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,340
I appreciate logic. Come on down, ma'am.

609
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:08,260
First of all, good morning commissioners.

610
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:12,380
I hear everybody talking.

611
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:13,860
Sorry, just well up for the record.

612
00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:15,280
But I don't have any questions.

613
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:16,840
Thank you.

614
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:19,540
The Medi-Waste.

615
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,320
I'm not really familiar.

616
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,800
I've just recently started coming to these meetings.

617
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:33,360
And I would think from listening to everybody that people who have breathing issues.

618
00:51:33,700 --> 00:51:40,180
I mean, you know, there's a lot of seniors and a lot of them have breathing issues.

619
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,500
And we already know the dust here is very bad.

620
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:51,020
And people, even children, that are warned to stay in the homes when we have high winds.

621
00:51:51,980 --> 00:52:01,220
So I would think that that would the many ways facility would basically affect all of them also.

622
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:07,960
So I just hope you guys take this into effect that we just don't need something like that here.

623
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,180
We're trying to better this place but not make it a city.

624
00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:18,600
We want to keep it rural and all of your decisions you make.

625
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:24,140
I hope you keep that in consideration rural Nevada.

626
00:52:24,820 --> 00:52:28,040
We don't want to miss Skeet, we don't want to lost Vegas.

627
00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:31,040
So, anyway, thank you.

628
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Thank you.

629
00:52:32,580 --> 00:52:34,260
Same anybody on the phone please.

630
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,160
No chair.

631
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,120
All right, seeing none and we're going to close up public comment.

632
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:42,240
Unless there's someone in ton of power screens not on up there guys.

633
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,040
There it is.

634
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:46,460
All right, we're going to close that out.

635
00:52:46,460 --> 00:52:48,420
move to number three please.

636
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:53,360
Item three, Commissioner Manager comments, the

637
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,580
site is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments,

638
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,120
correction of factual inaccuracies, correction of staff or topics proposed for

639
00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:08,300
future board meetings, lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is

640
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:12,600
prohibited by the Nevada Open Meeting Law. Thank you for the share

641
00:53:16,340 --> 00:53:22,100
if you're

642
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:30,480
directly directed at the commissioners and Mr. Koonsi. I would like confirmation, Mr. Koonsi,

643
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880
that NRS 203.090, disturbing a meeting,

644
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:44,980
and 203.030, provoking a commission of breach of peace,

645
00:53:45,780 --> 00:53:52,600
would apply to these meetings and give us the authority to take action and remove an individual

646
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:58,080
of past two. If you need to take some time to look at those, just get back to me, please.

647
00:53:59,020 --> 00:54:07,020
If that is the case, it might be time that more severe action gets taken in one of these meetings.

648
00:54:08,620 --> 00:54:10,200
They aren't here.

649
00:54:10,820 --> 00:54:16,260
Also, in the very first thing, front of the agenda, it states all this.

650
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,960
We're allowed to change the time.

651
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,840
It's up to this board to conduct this meeting.

652
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,940
We're here to do the business of the people.

653
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,860
But we have to do the business of the people.

654
00:54:25,980 --> 00:54:28,800
It was something immediately comes to my attention.

655
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:35,360
I try not to step online or immediately address it.

656
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:46,060
I try to defer to the board, if a board member asks me to remove an individual, I verify that, and then I do.

657
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:47,480
I appreciate that.

658
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,240
Thank you, Chair.

659
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,140
Thank you, Chair.

660
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Thank you.

661
00:54:49,820 --> 00:54:50,840
Help here.

662
00:54:51,820 --> 00:54:53,840
Commissioner Bane, you got anything?

663
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,520
I'm going to start your board.

664
00:54:56,860 --> 00:54:57,740
Thank you, Chair.

665
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,620
Good morning, everybody.

666
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:09,980
I would like to own in and specifically address the met-a-waste concern, very, very legitimate concern.

667
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:29,560
What a coincidence. We have coming up for October 6th, where District Attorney Cunzi and myself, Commissioner Jobore, we have a public hearing, time and date set.

668
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:39,560
And then the public hearing will be on the second meeting of October, October 20th.

669
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:50,080
Please keep in mind that, yes, as I mentioned, the Queensland's end up did give and post to notice.

670
00:55:51,220 --> 00:55:56,680
And on that notice, it's specifically reads that they're deadline to receive.

671
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:04,200
and there is a special form, a special form to fill out, go to their link. But their deadline

672
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:12,120
is September 10th. Excuse me. September 10th is their deadline. So try to get in. Those responses

673
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:19,880
is quickly as possible. So we don't miss that September 10th deadline. Also, we do have a

674
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:28,620
the ordinance that that's nice that the state end up as opposed to this notice, but

675
00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:38,260
the county, we do have a requirement and an ordinance for to issue a special permit within

676
00:56:38,260 --> 00:56:45,500
our county for such a such a project of this magnitude. So very important, I appreciate all

677
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:51,720
your concern and your feedback, but we've been working on this and you will be very, very

678
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:56,020
surprised as to the information that comes forward.

679
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,300
Thank you again for being here and turn back over to you, Chair.

680
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:03,460
Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

681
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,680
I reiterated with Commissioner DeBore, that was well done so that people were reminded that

682
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:16,240
can reach out and make common against the end-depth decision, and what our future looks

683
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,680
like for hearing this as a board.

684
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,300
Thank you.

685
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:20,200
Thank you, Commissioner Coneck.

686
00:57:23,810 --> 00:57:30,650
A briefly mentioned many ways, and the fact remains that before they can operate, they

687
00:57:30,650 --> 00:57:33,590
need to permit for musts, so there you go.

688
00:57:34,890 --> 00:57:42,570
And it's the opinion of the district attorney that we come up with a specific ordinance banning

689
00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:51,390
any importation of medical waste into this county from another state, so we'll be looking at that.

690
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:56,150
Now, that being said, it's time.

691
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,640
John's got a new toy.

692
00:58:04,490 --> 00:58:05,750
This isn't working now.

693
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:10,270
We'll be using this in further meetings.

694
00:58:10,690 --> 00:58:17,330
I'm not using it today because the numbers on the far right there,

695
00:58:17,330 --> 00:58:20,470
They just, I can't stand looking at them

696
00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:21,290
blinking so quickly.

697
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:24,550
So they're going to black that out for me somehow.

698
00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:29,770
But instead of using this, that you have no idea

699
00:58:29,770 --> 00:58:33,070
how much time you have left, and you probably can't even

700
00:58:33,070 --> 00:58:34,170
hear a go ding ding ding ding.

701
00:58:34,290 --> 00:58:37,070
When your time is up, this will do it.

702
00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:40,610
And it also supposedly makes a noise when your time is up.

703
00:58:42,090 --> 00:58:43,630
So get used to this.

704
00:58:43,690 --> 00:58:46,550
I asked for, I don't know, several months ago,

705
00:58:46,550 --> 00:58:49,730
because some members of the public had asked about it.

706
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:52,430
So we asked and we have it now.

707
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:56,920
So magic.

708
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,700
That's all I have. Thank you.

709
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Thanks, Commissioner.

710
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:04,800
OK, so I just have a couple of quick things.

711
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,420
Somebody had mentioned water.

712
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:09,900
They mentioned everybody mentioned water all the time.

713
00:59:10,780 --> 00:59:12,960
And the reason for that is because you'll

714
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,200
hear stories of some wells going dry,

715
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,000
some wells having to be punched deeper.

716
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:23,600
And then you'll hear other stories of wells are teething in different areas of the town.

717
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:29,300
We have not had a water study in 20 years, I believe, 20 years.

718
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:39,400
So I had mentioned Bakersfield had done a Lidar study where they fly over and they basically

719
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,780
radar down into the ground.

720
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:42,960
They know how much water there is there.

721
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,980
I mentioned that to some members of the water board and they're like, well, you know,

722
00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:54,320
those aren't tunnel, that's reliable and so the bottom line and the end of it really is

723
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,900
none of us at this point really know where we are on water. We're all in that same boat.

724
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,820
So none of us want to go dry. I mean, I've got land that I don't want it to be useless either. So there's that. So the study should be coming eventually.

725
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:29,980
It's here, and the sooner the better, I was told it would be this year, but so there's that. Secondly, I also mentioned at our last meeting, from a position of we're all residents here, we're probably all property owners and none of us want to be heard.

726
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:37,820
anymore. I mean, I was affected deeply by the 1293 order several years ago, made property

727
01:00:37,820 --> 01:00:39,880
I had overnight, just worthless.

728
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,040
But which got upheld by the friggin Supreme Court, but

729
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,400
anyway.

730
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:58,960
So I mentioned last meeting that regarding the data center, and I'm not. If I didn't

731
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,160
I don't like that location for the data center, but I'm not opposed to data centers somewhere

732
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,460
out, out, away, where they're not going to harm my time now, Joan.

733
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:18,260
But so I mentioned, I mentioned that we're in this together and we need to be very careful

734
01:01:18,260 --> 01:01:23,740
because people in Clark and in the state have told me, well, you know, we don't really

735
01:01:23,740 --> 01:01:28,240
give a damn what Nike County says because we're going to do what we want to do on the Clark

736
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:36,760
And I think they can fight us and they may think that they can do this and that, but we have unlimited resources to fight them until they're broke.

737
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:55,640
Two days after our last meeting, when I brought this up to all of us here, a different company, other than the one that was proposing to come here on Mance, a different company applied with the BLM for a thousand acre data project, just on the Clark side.

738
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:03,720
using the same damn basin, so, and if that were ever to be approved or moved forward,

739
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:10,160
Clark gets any benefit there would be, and they still suck the water right out of 162,

740
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:15,700
which, again, we don't know how much is there. So, it's just, I mean, we don't always

741
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:20,880
have to agree on everything, and you don't even like each other, not, but we are here together.

742
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:27,220
So we better be figuring something out and that's all I got managers directors anybody

743
01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:32,600
Yeah, you want to be brick

744
01:02:33,420 --> 01:02:41,640
Chair I have the clerk. Oh go ahead and tell the ladies first. I appreciate that chair

745
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:46,580
I just wanted to throw out a couple of members. We have 46 days until early voting

746
01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:50,220
We are there. We are getting ready to start our mail and ballots

747
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:56,300
Speaking of mail and ballots, you guys have until September 4th, if you do not want a ballot.

748
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,440
Please go to my office, there are on the website, there are on the states website, the form.

749
01:03:02,020 --> 01:03:05,980
If we were seen by the fourth, then we will not have to mail them, that's the only way.

750
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,480
We cannot mail 37,000 ballots.

751
01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:15,220
If you've already done it, we have it, but if you have it, and you are one who wants to vote in person.

752
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:22,280
swing by either one of the offices to get online and pick that up for me and I think that's it. Thanks.

753
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,900
Thanks, Corey. Nice to see you going at Arnold.

754
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:28,790
Good morning. My name is Arnold Knightley.

755
01:03:29,070 --> 01:03:32,030
I'm the Public Communications Manager for Night County.

756
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:38,390
I want to correct this statement made at the last meeting regarding the county's handling of public records requests.

757
01:03:38,970 --> 01:03:44,910
The sheriff stated, and I quote, as a point in comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests.

758
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:47,910
and she does three times as many, more.

759
01:03:48,510 --> 01:03:52,350
She does more by herself than three people do for this county, in quote.

760
01:03:54,090 --> 01:03:57,510
The primary correction is the assertion that the county has three people handling public

761
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:58,390
registered requests.

762
01:03:58,690 --> 01:03:59,530
This is not accurate.

763
01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:02,390
The county has one public registered administrator.

764
01:04:03,230 --> 01:04:08,110
The county created the position in 2002 in response to rapidly increasing workload.

765
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:13,730
The year before the position was created, the county received 346 public records requests.

766
01:04:13,730 --> 01:04:20,350
By the end of last year, the number had increased to approximately 1.89% to 1,000, and the work

767
01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:21,770
load continues to grow.

768
01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:31,430
Through our August 2026 yesterday, the counties received 772 public records requests, a 15.4%

769
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:33,670
increase over the same period last year.

770
01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:39,890
In August alone, the counties received 131 requests compared with 82 and August 2025,

771
01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:45,310
increase of nearly 60%. At the current pace, the county is projected to receive approximately

772
01:04:45,310 --> 01:04:52,910
1,150 public record requests in 2026. The workload cannot be measured simply by counting the number

773
01:04:52,910 --> 01:04:58,870
of requests received. August requests alone involve approximately 562 individual documents.

774
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:59,970
They're currently...

775
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,680
26 open record requests, including 16 that involve reviewing e-mails.

776
01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:13,220
Actually, 42 requests during 26 every required e-mail review, and one current request alone involves

777
01:05:13,220 --> 01:05:19,120
reviewing more than 4,000 e-mails. Individual requestors can also significantly impact the

778
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:25,560
workload. Since April, one requestor has submitted 32 public records requests, nine of which

779
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,740
remain open. These figures demonstrate a substantial and growing public records workload for the county's

780
01:05:31,740 --> 01:05:37,020
one person. Meaningful comparisons should be based on documented request volumes, the number

781
01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:42,400
of complexity records being sought, and the time required to locate, review, redact, and produce

782
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,220
for responsive records. This is not intended to dispute or diminish the workload being experienced

783
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:53,740
by the sheriff's office. We have a great relationship with the records person and work together

784
01:05:53,740 --> 01:05:58,880
often. She does a great job, particularly in an era where social media and increased public

785
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,860
attention can generate significant demand in records. And oftentimes those records are used

786
01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:09,940
for clicks. It's intent to correct the record regarding county staffing and provide an accurate

787
01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:14,200
picture of the challenges the county faces in responding to public records requests.

788
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,000
Thank you, Honorable. I need you to spoil your name for the record.

789
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,480
Finally, K&I, D-H-T-L-I.

790
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,220
Thank you.

791
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:25,980
Come on up, Tammy.

792
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:36,520
Good morning, commissioners.

793
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,640
Tammy Engel, E-N-G-E-L.

794
01:06:40,220 --> 01:06:41,780
First of all, I need to say hi, Erica.

795
01:06:42,460 --> 01:06:49,380
And then I wanted to bring to your attention that the E-Surf's Office is hosting along

796
01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:55,620
with Vitalent, a badge of honor blood drive on September 10th and 11th.

797
01:06:55,620 --> 01:07:03,820
on the 10th it is from 9 to 3 and on the 11th it will be from noon to 6 and this is at the

798
01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:10,840
prompt nugget and we hope that you will stop by and donate some much-needed blood for our area.

799
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,900
Thank you. Thank you. Come on up, Chief.

800
01:07:19,070 --> 01:07:20,230
Morning Commissioner Scott Lewis,

801
01:07:20,490 --> 01:07:26,410
LEWS, town of Prone Fire Chief. I want to remind everyone that the burn moratorium remains in place.

802
01:07:26,410 --> 01:07:37,190
We have heard it in the air disaster again yesterday and wind-driven conditions high fuel loads with an unauthorized control burn on the property in the south end of Valley.

803
01:07:37,690 --> 01:07:46,290
That burn impact is three other properties including one property that had a lot of material stored on including vehicles.

804
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:52,110
So we're reminding everyone to lease November 1st. No burning. Thank you.

805
01:07:52,110 --> 01:07:52,790
Thanks, Chief.

806
01:07:53,090 --> 01:07:55,210
Sam any managers or directors on the phone, please?

807
01:07:55,850 --> 01:07:56,210
Okay.

808
01:07:56,570 --> 01:07:56,830
All right.

809
01:07:56,870 --> 01:08:01,310
We're going to close that out and move to, uh, we'll do four and five and then take

810
01:08:01,310 --> 01:08:01,730
a break.

811
01:08:02,450 --> 01:08:02,870
Four, please.

812
01:08:04,570 --> 01:08:08,630
Item four approval of the agenda for September 1st, 2026.

813
01:08:09,790 --> 01:08:19,210
We are going to be pulling in consent items, 11.3A, but we will still consider B.

814
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:23,930
and also pulling item five emergency items.

815
01:08:25,690 --> 01:08:27,930
All right, thank you for that.

816
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:31,590
Okay, let's take a 10 minute potty break.

817
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,040
You ready into an approach?

818
01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:58,080
All right, we're ready when you guys are.

819
01:09:09,050 --> 01:09:09,370
Okay.

820
01:09:10,770 --> 01:09:10,930
Indeed.

821
01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:28,110
Good.

822
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:36,780
All right, we're ready, manager number six, please.

823
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,740
Item six, 10 a.m. time item for possible action.

824
01:09:42,740 --> 01:09:48,460
Sir, Sir, Sir, Mr. Hodge.

825
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:49,680
Mr. Hodge?

826
01:09:50,060 --> 01:09:50,680
Go ahead, madam.

827
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:59,980
Ten a.m. time to item for possible action public hearing discussion and deliberation to adopt a men and adopt a reject mic.

828
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:23,980
County bill number 2026-12. A bill proposing to a men-night county code title 17. Comprehensive land use planning and zoning by a men in chapter 17.10 entitled from regional planning district, relating to section 17.04 110 definitions by adding the definition of a dwelling unit.

829
01:10:25,940 --> 01:10:32,160
ADU, amending the definition of dwelling, or dwelling unit, by removing or dwelling unit,

830
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:44,120
amending section 17.04.210, RH9.5, rural homestead residential section 17.04.25,

831
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:52,340
Our H4.5 roll homestead residential section 17.04.220.

832
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:58,080
Our E2 roll is state residential 17.04.225.

833
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:04,380
Our E1 roll is state residential 17.04.230.

834
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,120
Suburb in the state's residential section 17.04.240.

835
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:18,040
4-0, VR-20, Village Residential, and 17.04.255 VR-10, Village Residential by adding

836
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:25,120
an accessory dwelling units, and standards to permissive uses, and removing mobile homes

837
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,140
as temporary residences with temporary use permit, and providing for the severability

838
01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:35,720
constitutionality, and effective date thereof, and other matters, properly relating there

839
01:11:36,460 --> 01:11:47,900
And I know there's a typo in here's list on the 17.10, I think that should be 17.04 in the agenda item.

840
01:11:48,580 --> 01:11:50,640
So, just correcting that on the record perfect.

841
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,720
Good morning, Celeste.

842
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:52,960
Good morning, Celeste.

843
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:53,760
Celeste.

844
01:11:56,620 --> 01:11:57,140
Celeste.

845
01:11:57,140 --> 01:12:13,440
As Brett has stated, we had received an application in and they would like to add the definition of accessory dwelling unit and the applicants are here for any questions if you have anything they are the experts in the manufacturer homes for what they're wanting to add.

846
01:12:13,940 --> 01:12:17,560
Well, thank you very much for that. So I think what we're going to do is open public comment.

847
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:18,220
Go ahead.

848
01:12:18,740 --> 01:12:19,180
Go ahead.

849
01:12:19,300 --> 01:12:23,240
You mind if we do a little different hearing ask questions from the applicants.

850
01:12:24,220 --> 01:12:24,320
Right.

851
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:29,120
Could you state your name and spell it for the record?

852
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,480
Gerald Schulti, SCH, ULTE, Factory Home Center.

853
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Deletia.

854
01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:40,660
To wish the ask you, Factory Home Center as well, HASK-EW.

855
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:41,200
Excellent.

856
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:47,160
So, we evidently have had some holes in our roles that you come up with an idea of how we

857
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,400
could do a better job when it comes to these ADUs, and I just was wondering if you give

858
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:56,100
a little explanation about what those changes are when it comes to kitchens and

859
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:56,500
etc.

860
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,220
Because that's what a base of those is.

861
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:03,440
So, well, currently right now, the only thing that we're trying to get changed is any of

862
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:07,340
these zones that already allow a site built kacita, which does not have a fully functioning

863
01:13:07,340 --> 01:13:13,020
kitchen. We're trying to get included in that definition in ADU unit. It's not in addition

864
01:13:13,020 --> 01:13:17,620
to a casino. We just want to say, okay, if you're going to do a casino, you can also

865
01:13:17,620 --> 01:13:22,660
do an ADU. Whether that's going to be a site built or manufactured, we want to be included in

866
01:13:22,660 --> 01:13:28,380
that. Assembly Bill 396 has already been passed and that is in the state of Nevada. They've

867
01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:33,560
already passed it to where the larger counties in cities already allow for ADU units. Clark County

868
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,900
is allowed it for years and years and we've done it, for years and years there, they've actually

869
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:43,920
even removed the waiver requirements and we don't have to get any type of approvals from

870
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,220
neighbors or anything like that.

871
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:50,460
But it's just something that we want to be included in, because right now you have to have

872
01:13:50,460 --> 01:13:54,200
a temporary use in order to have a manufacturing home placed on a private piece of property.

873
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,380
We have to go through all of the permitting, all of the zoning.

874
01:13:57,820 --> 01:13:58,880
We have to do soils reports.

875
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,380
We have to do our engineered type 2 pads, our blockwork.

876
01:14:02,380 --> 01:14:08,680
We have to pay so much money in order to get these homes on these properties, and then it has to be renewed every single year.

877
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,200
Once that medical need is no longer, they have to remove that home.

878
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:19,460
And now, whatever you take into account years on these homes, Clark County, you're only allowed to put a home that six years or newer.

879
01:14:19,940 --> 01:14:22,740
And a lot of the other jurisdictions have those same type of rules.

880
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:27,860
So now, what are these people going to do with these homes whenever they can no longer have them on their pieces of property?

881
01:14:27,860 --> 01:14:33,600
And people also have a misconception of what brand new manufacturing homes look like.

882
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,340
There are two by six construction.

883
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:38,340
They're built just as well as a site built home.

884
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:39,980
You can do it, steer your stucco.

885
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:41,740
You can do tile roof if you want.

886
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,640
You can do metal roofs.

887
01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:45,640
I have a few pictures of some of our homes that we do have.

888
01:14:46,020 --> 01:14:47,720
But they've definitely changed over the years.

889
01:14:47,860 --> 01:14:48,760
That's for sure.

890
01:14:50,180 --> 01:14:50,680
Thank you, Chair.

891
01:14:50,980 --> 01:14:51,880
Thank you, Mr. Suleysha.

892
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,040
And the great thing is they'll be converted to real property

893
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,860
generate a lot more extra of it now. As we previously did this, yes.

894
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:16,600
Sir, we go. The only time that it's not is if somebody is going to do a shadow loan and they have to finance the home only. But once that's paid off, they can then tie it. I've already checked with manufacturer housing division. They said it's a land use thing and it has nothing to do with them. So you can have two homes converted to real property on one site.

895
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:22,300
Perfect. Thank you. All right. Let's now open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

896
01:15:27,260 --> 01:15:30,540
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

897
01:15:32,460 --> 01:15:43,180
Yes, Amy Nelson, any LSON, I'm not quite sure why they need to have a 2 by 6 manufacturer.

898
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:58,760
And I'm really suspect that these will be used in addition to other things that are going on, like the solar farms, they might want to put one out there and so forth.

899
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:06,000
And I'm just really suspect to changing our master plan this early in the game.

900
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,940
I'm really suspect to any of those changes.

901
01:16:11,340 --> 01:16:16,300
So I hope you really consider what this is going to mean for all of us in the future.

902
01:16:16,780 --> 01:16:17,760
Thank you.

903
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:19,680
Come on down, Bill.

904
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,840
Best for a 7th bill, RY, S-E-W-I-C-H.

905
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,940
I'm speaking as a regular citizen that owns a home here in town

906
01:16:33,940 --> 01:16:36,180
and not an RPC commissioner.

907
01:16:37,340 --> 01:16:40,960
My issue with this is that we have a mobile home company

908
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,020
that wants us to change our code so they can sell more homes.

909
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,040
They want us to be like Las Vegas, Anderson.

910
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,020
We're a rural small town.

911
01:16:53,020 --> 01:17:07,080
Why would we put another mobile home on a lot instead of putting a smaller unit that doesn't encompass 30 or 40 feet?

912
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,180
It just doesn't make sense to me.

913
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:20,280
The bottom line that I'm hearing out of all of this, oh, also I think I do know that both of the homes on the property can just be rentals.

914
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:29,320
So instead of a being an ADU to help your family or some relative or whatever, they could just

915
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,600
bring them all out forever, and then what?

916
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,500
But they want to sell more mobile homes.

917
01:17:35,940 --> 01:17:38,040
I am not in favor of this for a world.

918
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:42,000
We don't want to put all the homes on all the land.

919
01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:44,560
Can you imagine how that would look?

920
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:45,640
Oh my God.

921
01:17:46,260 --> 01:17:48,640
Anyway, I just am not in favor of this.

922
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,540
Thank you.

923
01:17:49,540 --> 01:17:51,220
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

924
01:17:53,450 --> 01:17:55,030
Yes, Chair, the callaries that muted.

925
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:56,810
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

926
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,500
Yes. Can you hear me?

927
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:04,600
Yes, ma'am.

928
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:06,680
Sorry.

929
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,120
Sorry.

930
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:07,620
That's okay.

931
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,060
I didn't mean to reply.

932
01:18:09,060 --> 01:18:10,380
Oh, no, I just...

933
01:18:10,380 --> 01:18:10,840
That's okay.

934
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,360
That's okay.

935
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,860
It's very isolating, trying to figure out

936
01:18:17,860 --> 01:18:20,740
if I'm being heard or not on this line.

937
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,020
I can't see you.

938
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:23,100
No, I appreciate it.

939
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:26,500
Can you please spell your last name just for the record?

940
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:34,660
Yes, my first name is Kapula K.A.P.U.A. I spell it because it's unusual here.

941
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,680
Johnson is my last name, J.O.H.N.S.O.N.

942
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:45,400
I'm calling in because I've been listening to this to come the complete meeting.

943
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:55,700
And the irony that I'm hearing is just so strong, because here we are, we have speakers

944
01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:59,980
who are protesting against manufactured homes.

945
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:05,700
This would be people buying one by one by manufacturing homes.

946
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:12,340
Yes, we have these huge housing developments that we're not there when I bought my vacant

947
01:19:12,340 --> 01:19:22,120
land by they get a lot, 40 years ago, and now we have the attempted introduction of the

948
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:29,940
data center. Now we're looking at a medical waste dumping site. The irony, because

949
01:19:29,940 --> 01:19:38,000
between a few people, landowners, getting begging for their utilities to be put in or even

950
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:52,000
loud, and yet there's five casinos, a pool, a man-made lake, excuse me, where is the

951
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:59,960
or it is the practicality here, and are we supposed to accept that as problems they can allow others to love.

952
01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:17,460
We're supposed to say, well, that's okay. It's not okay. It is not okay with us. And you have not heard the last of us. We will be at every single meeting until something is done. And this irony, this Blake, thank you.

953
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:18,940
Thank you, Pam.

954
01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:19,440
Chair.

955
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,120
Oh, yes.

956
01:20:20,620 --> 01:20:24,820
I believe that Ms. Kapu, I didn't realize that we are on an agenda item.

957
01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:28,860
This is on that. I think. Yeah. Okay. Sam. Oh, no. Come on down there.

958
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,120
Thank you commissioners for your time and consideration.

959
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:56,980
I strongly support this argument. Can you stop for the record? I'm so sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry. Reggie federal F is in Frank. EDR all. Thank you. Again, thank you commissioners for your time and consideration on this subject. I strongly support the tax amendment 41 and bill 2026 dashed off.

960
01:20:56,980 --> 01:21:04,480
because it aligns our housing code with existing frameworks while providing our community

961
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:11,940
with a practical and lasting option. Small manufacturing homes are currently permitted only

962
01:21:11,940 --> 01:21:20,560
in circumstances tied to medical necessities. When that condition is, the union must be removed.

963
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:26,860
even after residents invest over a hundred to thousands of dollars, you know, for one of these

964
01:21:27,180 --> 01:21:32,360
manufacturer homes. This creates a financial risk for families and caring for loved ones.

965
01:21:32,820 --> 01:21:41,100
Bill 2026-12 allows manufacturers homes to remain on residential lots, making them permanent housing solutions,

966
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,020
like casitas already permitted in our code.

967
01:21:46,020 --> 01:21:53,280
That gives us these families the stability they need when making such a major investment.

968
01:21:54,000 --> 01:22:02,080
Many factored homes are built to strict hudstanders, hudstanders, that's really good.

969
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,900
You know that's better than what we have now.

970
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:11,090
They're registered solutions that expand options beyond casinos, offering different price points and

971
01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:14,430
stability for ferris family needs.

972
01:22:14,770 --> 01:22:18,690
Whenever for medical necessity, our general affordability,

973
01:22:19,010 --> 01:22:22,110
families deserve access to cold,

974
01:22:22,330 --> 01:22:25,290
complying permanent housing at Fitzgerald Circumstances.

975
01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:28,130
By providing this lawful or alternative,

976
01:22:28,710 --> 01:22:30,530
we expand housing options,

977
01:22:31,130 --> 01:22:35,590
give families certainly that their investments won't be lost.

978
01:22:36,710 --> 01:22:39,490
We respect, thank you very much, sir.

979
01:22:39,890 --> 01:22:40,390
Thank you.

980
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:42,730
Sorry, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

981
01:22:43,630 --> 01:22:46,770
That's chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

982
01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:53,830
Hello, Commissioner. It's Michael Davis, first here at GA or the IA.

983
01:22:54,530 --> 01:22:55,330
Here, me, okay.

984
01:22:57,970 --> 01:23:00,470
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that enthusiasm.

985
01:23:01,410 --> 01:23:03,070
I felt we did the right, huh?

986
01:23:03,770 --> 01:23:09,050
Anyhow, my specific comments about this at gender item is the constitutionality.

987
01:23:09,050 --> 01:23:16,170
But obviously, there's some folks on the other side of the microphone a little week, so I would like to address that part.

988
01:23:18,150 --> 01:23:22,690
You know, the fifth amendment is due process, and I heard some about the takings.

989
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:25,490
Anybody want to address that?

990
01:23:26,050 --> 01:23:28,170
Maybe we should be on the

991
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:34,780
record.

992
01:23:35,180 --> 01:23:36,420
It's been statutes.

993
01:23:37,100 --> 01:23:38,380
How about a news class, Sheriff?

994
01:23:39,260 --> 01:23:40,400
It's not a Metro.

995
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:40,680
but

996
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,740
let's get on in doctrine.

997
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:48,740
I'll have to do a tonality,

998
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,440
but I'll know that

999
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,120
you're treading again, be careful.

1000
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:58,240
Not a threat.

1001
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,200
It's a right to practice with the bill, a right, and the tenth amendment is king.

1002
01:24:08,340 --> 01:24:08,880
Thank you.

1003
01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:09,940
Thanks a lot.

1004
01:24:13,390 --> 01:24:14,130
Well, Anthony.

1005
01:24:14,590 --> 01:24:16,710
Anthony Greco, GRECO.

1006
01:24:17,450 --> 01:24:21,730
I think they should be able to get this if you're trying to keep families together

1007
01:24:21,730 --> 01:24:23,630
and take Gary each other.

1008
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:24,970
There's nothing wrong with that.

1009
01:24:24,970 --> 01:24:31,810
If people don't like the way it looks, it's probably not going to be garbage if Gerald is doing this because he's a good business person

1010
01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:37,710
and he's been in the community a long time and we need to take care of our families.

1011
01:24:38,370 --> 01:24:39,970
So I think they should be able to have this.

1012
01:24:40,930 --> 01:24:41,450
Thanks sir.

1013
01:24:41,730 --> 01:24:43,610
Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

1014
01:24:44,730 --> 01:24:45,090
Yes, Chair.

1015
01:24:45,190 --> 01:24:46,130
The caller is unmuted.

1016
01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:47,990
Please speak in the spelling or name for the record.

1017
01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:59,770
Yeah, my name is Matt Sather, SAV, LER, and anything that we can do to expand.

1018
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:09,020
Opportunity for people enjoying their properties, helping out their families, we need to go ahead and make that happen.

1019
01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:15,780
It's definitely a reasonable, reasonable ordinance, reasonable proposal that we can kind of codify here.

1020
01:25:16,140 --> 01:25:23,900
So I'm all for it. And in the future expanding our rights on our own lands and to be able to enjoy our properties.

1021
01:25:24,180 --> 01:25:28,640
Hope to have a lot of new ideas in the future. Thank you very much.

1022
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:29,760
I have a good rest of you meeting.

1023
01:25:30,020 --> 01:25:31,540
Thank you, come on down to wait.

1024
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,780
Yeah, wait, Lily, L-O-I-O-Y.

1025
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,620
I think we need to end this stigma

1026
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:42,620
of annual factory to homes once for all

1027
01:25:42,620 --> 01:25:44,680
and stop calling them mobile homes

1028
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,440
and start calling them homes.

1029
01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:48,560
Because that's exactly what they were.

1030
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,380
46 years ago, and the state of Washington,

1031
01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:53,280
Mount St. Helens, blew its top

1032
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,740
and floating down the Calus River

1033
01:25:55,740 --> 01:25:58,400
was a green river mobile home.

1034
01:25:58,500 --> 01:26:01,000
The homes that got washed away were all pieces,

1035
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,260
But the mobile home was floating down the river.

1036
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:04,480
That's how well it was built.

1037
01:26:05,380 --> 01:26:07,940
So we need to remove from our zoning,

1038
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,440
I believe, any restrictions I'm gonna do

1039
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:13,580
with a term mobile home, just call them home.

1040
01:26:13,860 --> 01:26:16,900
And this solves a housing situation

1041
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:18,700
that families can remain together.

1042
01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:22,080
You don't have to create some situations

1043
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,940
where they have to go get a site built,

1044
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:25,240
builder to come out and do it.

1045
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,720
You can have it done right in a factory, moved in.

1046
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,500
It's not gonna be moved again

1047
01:26:29,500 --> 01:26:35,200
once just put on the property. This is not the long long trailer days of Lucille Ball.

1048
01:26:35,540 --> 01:26:44,820
This is 2026 their home. So I hope that the county planning, whoever does the writing

1049
01:26:44,820 --> 01:26:51,360
up of the ordinance is going to just remove the name mobile home and just call it home.

1050
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,740
That would solve the problem right there.

1051
01:26:53,740 --> 01:26:58,600
Thanks, do I, I completely agree with you. Come on down, Susie.

1052
01:27:02,610 --> 01:27:07,650
Susie, her, it's H-E-R-T-Z. I don't really

1053
01:27:07,650 --> 01:27:18,370
favor this change of ordinance because it ultimately is not that we need to be like

1054
01:27:18,370 --> 01:27:26,890
of Las Vegas. We're not Las Vegas. We don't need to be like them and we don't need to

1055
01:27:26,890 --> 01:27:34,330
we're a small rural town. If you can find a way to allow for temporary housing for people

1056
01:27:34,330 --> 01:27:41,370
on their properties without it looking and sounding like Las Vegas, then perhaps we should

1057
01:27:41,370 --> 01:27:51,170
entertain that. That is a basis for this ordinance I don't think is terribly healthy and this

1058
01:27:51,170 --> 01:28:00,230
one manufactured home builder. There are others out there, and there's no consensus that is

1059
01:28:00,230 --> 01:28:06,570
come from other builders who are out there to support this. And so it seems a little

1060
01:28:06,570 --> 01:28:14,550
one-sided in terms of who's proposing this change. So I'm personally not in favor of it. Thank you.

1061
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:16,430
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

1062
01:28:19,010 --> 01:28:19,370
No chair.

1063
01:28:19,850 --> 01:28:21,230
Mondale and Mr. Walley?

1064
01:28:26,540 --> 01:28:27,520
Okay, here you go.

1065
01:28:28,740 --> 01:28:33,340
Chris Lally, L.A. L. L. Y. Good morning, commissioners.

1066
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,500
I just wanted to speak briefly in support of the proposed ADU ordinance.

1067
01:28:38,260 --> 01:28:43,220
I actually think this is a practical change that the kind of housing flexibility we should be encouraging in

1068
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,020
allowing a property owner to have one guest residence or an approved

1069
01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:50,880
ADU while keeping it limited to 1,500 square feet to me.

1070
01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:52,260
Seems like a reasonable balance.

1071
01:28:52,940 --> 01:28:55,540
For a lot of families, this could mean a place for an aging parent,

1072
01:28:55,900 --> 01:29:03,220
an adult child trying to get established or simply an opportunity for multiple generations to live close to one another while still having some independence.

1073
01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:09,160
I also appreciate that the ordinance allows both site-built and qualifying manufacturer homes.

1074
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,860
That gives residence options without simply removing standards.

1075
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:23,500
My only request would be to make the process and requirements as clear as possible to property owners so people understand up front what they can build and what approvals will be required.

1076
01:29:24,340 --> 01:29:28,040
Over all though, I think this is a sensible change and I do support it moving forward.

1077
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,260
Thank you, thank you.

1078
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,860
Sam anybody on the phone please.

1079
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:32,980
No chair.

1080
01:29:33,220 --> 01:29:34,040
Mondale Linda.

1081
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,740
Linda Clark, CLARK.

1082
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,600
So it's my understanding.

1083
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:48,320
you don't really want the little homes. You'd prefer to have bigger trailers.

1084
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,560
Okay, who can afford all that? I was raised in a little tiny two-bedroom,

1085
01:29:55,740 --> 01:29:59,920
what I call trailer trash place in Lancaster with five kids.

1086
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,860
And my mom, living in a little trailer. If my mom had had to go through what this is to make her buy a bigger mobile home,

1087
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:13,080
she worked as a waiter supporting five kids. I'm sure we have people here like that. How can they do that? They can't.

1088
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:18,340
And that was in the days before we got welfare and snapping all this other stuff we're giving out today.

1089
01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:25,220
So if a person has something now and it's working for their family and they're keeping it up, why do we need to make them change it?

1090
01:30:25,220 --> 01:30:26,660
makes no sense to me at all.

1091
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,200
They are people that live here, and they deserve a home.

1092
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:31,280
Thank you.

1093
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:31,980
Thank you, Sam.

1094
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:33,740
Anybody on the phone please?

1095
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:36,320
No chair.

1096
01:30:36,620 --> 01:30:37,660
Come on down, Diane.

1097
01:30:41,180 --> 01:30:42,120
I think we're all saying this.

1098
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,800
I am self-worth, so you need to be CHWO, all RCH.

1099
01:30:46,380 --> 01:30:49,240
Well, at my age, and I am the queen of my own manufacturer.

1100
01:30:49,900 --> 01:30:50,340
Oh, it's right.

1101
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:53,960
I could tell you that there could be a time

1102
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,620
when I would need to be closer to my family

1103
01:30:56,620 --> 01:31:05,280
have to live in a little one bedroom, house or casito or manufactured home. I also saw some

1104
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:12,180
really cute plans, or they look like little log cabins to build yourself for 25,000. And

1105
01:31:12,180 --> 01:31:17,520
they're completely done and they have a prep porch on them and stuff. So there's options

1106
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:22,860
out there. I say that when I first read it, I thought they were going to do a way with a manufactured

1107
01:31:22,860 --> 01:31:30,480
at home that after listening to them, I think it's a wonderful idea and you never know what

1108
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:33,160
your family circumstances are going to be.

1109
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:34,040
Thank you.

1110
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:35,040
Thank you.

1111
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,180
Come on down and prompt, please.

1112
01:31:42,330 --> 01:31:44,750
Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

1113
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:49,810
Again, my somebody else mentioned I believe that there is a misconception about main effects

1114
01:31:49,810 --> 01:31:50,310
at homes.

1115
01:31:50,510 --> 01:31:55,070
They are built in a factory and they're brought in in two pieces or there's something

1116
01:31:55,070 --> 01:31:56,370
that are choose to raise high.

1117
01:31:56,370 --> 01:31:59,590
And at times they're built better quality than stick built.

1118
01:32:00,350 --> 01:32:05,650
I think what the proposal here is, I think it's the necessity in this town because there are

1119
01:32:05,650 --> 01:32:12,110
so few rental options and fewer options of affordability for a lot of people.

1120
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:16,510
I don't know how any of you may, but he also has brought up, but I was brought up my parents,

1121
01:32:17,090 --> 01:32:20,170
you know, live with you and you take care of them as they age.

1122
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:22,830
And this will definitely help with that.

1123
01:32:22,830 --> 01:32:26,090
So I think it's more than just, you know, something that they want.

1124
01:32:26,250 --> 01:32:33,950
I think this is how it needs it to help with a lot of the living situations a lot of people are in.

1125
01:32:35,250 --> 01:32:38,550
So it's like, thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

1126
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,140
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

1127
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:43,980
Please, speak in the following name for the record.

1128
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:54,100
Hi, Timbo, Helen, DOHA, and then, oh, yeah, this is really an easy, easy call on this one.

1129
01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:09,380
There's other similar towns to our size and a little bit beyond that this was not a major issue, but some major importance, especially housing where we have here.

1130
01:33:09,380 --> 01:33:16,040
We do need that help, and this provides that opportunity, and I'm in favor of passage.

1131
01:33:16,420 --> 01:33:17,200
Thank you.

1132
01:33:17,300 --> 01:33:17,560
Thanks.

1133
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:18,020
Go ahead, Bob.

1134
01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:28,320
Robert Adams, ADAMS, but most of Clark County residents live in a metropolitan area, but

1135
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:33,480
it's a huge place with lots of rural communities that people in them are real proud

1136
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:34,860
about being in a rural community.

1137
01:33:34,860 --> 01:33:42,100
And just because it's a rule where a law that ordnance that Clark County passed doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it.

1138
01:33:42,700 --> 01:33:49,020
That there's a whole new technology as far as the small homes right now, right now the unit,

1139
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:55,720
that's all these what's called capsule homes that get unloaded off a flat bed and this kind of build themselves.

1140
01:33:55,720 --> 01:34:04,340
that I guess get the proper, get set on the proper ground and get the facilities to it.

1141
01:34:06,820 --> 01:34:12,140
But our planning really needs to catch up with all the new technologies, the tiny homes

1142
01:34:12,140 --> 01:34:17,820
so they're out there available, and this is a good step in the right direction and maybe

1143
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:23,340
expand a little bit to include some of the new stuff. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Come on down, Tammy.

1144
01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:34,720
Tammy Pittman, PIT, M.A.N., great idea, however, I think it could be abused, and I think there's

1145
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:40,340
an addition that the ordinance saying that at least the homeowner must be on the property,

1146
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,820
they can't rent out multiple, they can't just leave and rent out those homes.

1147
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,860
Because when you live there, you care.

1148
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:53,300
When you're renting, things can go downhill and sometimes some landlords are not the

1149
01:34:54,020 --> 01:34:55,540
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sam.

1150
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,260
Anybody on the phone please?

1151
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,960
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted.

1152
01:35:10,740 --> 01:35:25,200
I'm in favor of taxing this proposal for a manufacturer home as an ADU. It's practical. It's feasible for many people. I think we need to do it. Thank you.

1153
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:31,360
Thank you. Come on down, Paul. Yeah, no, I learned it. Right to the point. Oh, well, hell.

1154
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:35,120
Hello, Paul.

1155
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:43,060
Lee must L. E. M. U. S. Are you folks to applicants? Oh, how many units are you trying to build

1156
01:35:43,060 --> 01:35:48,900
if you don't remember? Yeah, so we're going to just have you comment. I can't go back. If it's okay with a

1157
01:35:48,900 --> 01:35:55,220
may act mass permission to ask some question rules or the, okay. Yeah, so okay. Okay. No, the reason why I was

1158
01:35:55,220 --> 01:36:02,560
They're saying, you know, these developments come in and they do subdivide, but like in

1159
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,940
Amar Gosa Valley where we're at, we have something called land use entitlement rather

1160
01:36:06,940 --> 01:36:07,480
than zoning.

1161
01:36:08,020 --> 01:36:12,280
And we kind of roll back zoning and put it into the people's hands where they have a right

1162
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:18,100
to say, do they want to build, do they want to grow, do they want to farm, do they want

1163
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:18,720
to do agriculture?

1164
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:24,400
So, so land use entitlement is another designation, I was just going to make a suggestion

1165
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:27,800
as a planning guide that sat on the Planning Committee and now Margot Savali and worked

1166
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,440
on the comprehensive area planned for Night County and also Amargot Savali.

1167
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,900
It would be wise to just consider that's fantastic.

1168
01:36:36,180 --> 01:36:41,480
And then when you do that type of project, you could also do like an approved plan and allow

1169
01:36:41,480 --> 01:36:46,420
all the other members of the community to also go ahead and do a pre-approved plan to just be

1170
01:36:46,420 --> 01:36:50,500
able to fast track these for everybody in the community if somebody wanted to.

1171
01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:56,920
Because right now our our thing is capital we need money and these this would generate a ton of tax revenue

1172
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:03,280
I mean where we're looking at and I'm gonna go to Valley, you know, if you were to subdivide some of those lots and actually occupy them

1173
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:13,240
We could solve a lot of our problems with our tax debt and with our commissioner and our night county debt right now. So I was just gonna say I think for the project far as there approval is concerned

1174
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:19,640
That's what I wanted to ask was their personal approval. You know, I'm for the people I want to see the people be able to do what they want with their land

1175
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,780
and be able to make some money, be able to subdivide them if they want, and be able to

1176
01:37:23,780 --> 01:37:26,660
sell them and have the rights to do what they want with their property, so that's land

1177
01:37:26,660 --> 01:37:27,780
use entitlement.

1178
01:37:28,900 --> 01:37:29,620
Thank you.

1179
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:30,940
Same anybody on the phone, please?

1180
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:33,630
No chair.

1181
01:37:34,170 --> 01:37:34,530
One answer.

1182
01:37:38,740 --> 01:37:39,640
Oh, members, everybody.

1183
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:41,480
Brush out the jail, HNSOM.

1184
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:44,280
You know, I'm all poor.

1185
01:37:46,380 --> 01:37:53,200
Making necessary changes in order to be able to bring in optional housing,

1186
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:58,520
facilities, structures. I don't want to see it be limited just

1187
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,640
manufactured homes or which everybody is classified as manufactured homes.

1188
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:08,000
There are actually great homes or built out of shipping containers.

1189
01:38:09,220 --> 01:38:15,820
I'm in development with somebody on building basically a steel

1190
01:38:15,820 --> 01:38:22,600
instead type of a structure that is actually going to be cited with lightweight concrete

1191
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:29,060
so that it is fireproof. It will not be able to burn unless you catch up on fire on the

1192
01:38:29,060 --> 01:38:35,140
inside and I find that as being something that could be very useful for a lot of people out

1193
01:38:35,140 --> 01:38:41,780
here in our climate. So I want to see two of it that everybody keeps an open mind so that we

1194
01:38:41,780 --> 01:38:43,460
can have some other options.

1195
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,640
Let's not keep it limited to just

1196
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,040
manufactured homes that everybody knows

1197
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:49,140
that comes in on a trailer.

1198
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:51,240
And I'll yield.

1199
01:38:51,500 --> 01:38:52,360
Thank you.

1200
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:52,800
Thank you.

1201
01:38:53,020 --> 01:38:53,780
Come on, no, ma'am.

1202
01:38:58,320 --> 01:38:59,480
Good morning, Julia.

1203
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,460
I'm using all MUSAL.

1204
01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:06,960
This is actually kind of ironic that it's on the agenda today.

1205
01:39:07,300 --> 01:39:12,060
I have a manufactured home, three bedroom, two bath.

1206
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,600
My mother is almost 92.

1207
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:22,900
and I'm trying to talk her into coming here. But my mother still drives, plays billiards,

1208
01:39:24,740 --> 01:39:31,040
gardens, plays botchie ball, and she did not want to come because she likes her independence.

1209
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:38,580
Even though she still needs somebody to be around here, and we talked about putting something

1210
01:39:38,580 --> 01:39:45,980
on the property. It doesn't have to be a big huge manufactured home. They have a smaller

1211
01:39:45,980 --> 01:39:59,980
manufactured homes and why put all that money in it to it and then have somebody have to

1212
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:16,820
So bad that I'm sure there's plenty of family members that would be able to use, you know, the ADU. And so anyway, I am I am for it and I hope you guys approve it. Thank you.

1213
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,560
Thank you, Sam anybody else, please.

1214
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:24,840
No, chair.

1215
01:40:24,980 --> 01:40:30,060
Okay, we're going to close up public comment. Commissioners, do you have questions for the applicants or solicitors?

1216
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,020
No, I just have statements if you don't mind.

1217
01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:39,080
read it. There was stuff that was said. The I understand that it's 1500 square foot or less and we

1218
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:45,580
already have conceit is, which are site belts. The difference, this, what this does is we already

1219
01:40:45,580 --> 01:40:52,020
have a site belt capability. Now we're going to have a manufactured belt capability. And so

1220
01:40:52,020 --> 01:40:58,380
manufactured could be basically a lot of different things, not just manufactured housing as we see

1221
01:40:58,380 --> 01:41:02,820
from Factory Home Center. I also found it very interesting that 14 people actually agreed

1222
01:41:02,820 --> 01:41:09,260
with this. Wow. I'm not, I'm, I'm floored. We actually agree on something. Thank you, Chair.

1223
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,540
Thank you. Commissioner's up north. You got anything for us?

1224
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:19,660
Mr. Chair? Yes, go ahead, sir. There's nothing else I'd like to make a motion. I'd like to hear one.

1225
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:25,620
Mr. Chairman, I just, I'd like briefly. My only question is that

1226
01:41:25,620 --> 01:41:32,540
This manufactured homes is a term, and I'm supportive of this, but just the ambiguity that

1227
01:41:32,540 --> 01:41:35,100
was just inserted, this can be more than just manufactured homes.

1228
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:38,500
I'm just questioning what that means.

1229
01:41:38,780 --> 01:41:44,240
A manufactured home can be depending on who you're talking to, different things.

1230
01:41:44,660 --> 01:41:51,020
Anyone who uses certain systems knows that manufactured home is commonly referred to as a mobile

1231
01:41:51,020 --> 01:41:51,520
home.

1232
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:52,260
And that's fine.

1233
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,480
When it's attached, it has a certificate of attachment,

1234
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,580
and some guy goes and takes three bars and twists.

1235
01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,540
And then he signs the magic piece of paper.

1236
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,200
It says, this is now attached.

1237
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:02,380
It gets filed with the assessor

1238
01:42:02,380 --> 01:42:04,160
and it becomes real property.

1239
01:42:04,660 --> 01:42:06,760
On the legal definition of real property, of course,

1240
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:07,240
is separate.

1241
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,280
And so we can talk about this for 35 minutes.

1242
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:10,040
I won't do that.

1243
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:12,840
My question is, just bluntly and directly,

1244
01:42:13,940 --> 01:42:16,640
is that this only pertains to manual facture

1245
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:17,800
to housing that is attached?

1246
01:42:18,220 --> 01:42:18,780
Is that correct?

1247
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:20,900
Can anyone answer that question?

1248
01:42:21,860 --> 01:42:25,400
So, no, it's not, you can do either a site built,

1249
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:28,500
ADU, or you can do a manufactured home that is an ADU.

1250
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,120
So now if you're going to be financing the home as a

1251
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,680
Catalone, it will maintain its personal property status,

1252
01:42:33,980 --> 01:42:35,880
but after it's paid off, then it can be converted.

1253
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,100
If it's cash, or if they want to absorb it,

1254
01:42:39,220 --> 01:42:40,960
do like a refire or something like that,

1255
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,280
then it would be converted to real property.

1256
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,340
It just depends on the specific circumstance.

1257
01:42:46,330 --> 01:42:56,950
Also, a point out that in the year 2000, Senate Bill 323 took the discrimination of manufactured

1258
01:42:56,950 --> 01:43:03,290
homes away and identified them as single-family dwellings, and that allowed manufactured homes

1259
01:43:03,290 --> 01:43:10,750
to go in subdivisions alongside conventional-built, stick-belt homes without discriminating

1260
01:43:10,750 --> 01:43:11,590
against them.

1261
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:16,690
So manufactured homes in the state and Nevada are considered single family dwellings.

1262
01:43:20,210 --> 01:43:23,530
So the question first of all, Fannie Mae is not going to buy that.

1263
01:43:23,770 --> 01:43:25,450
So it would have to be a hard money alone.

1264
01:43:25,650 --> 01:43:27,110
And it just causes a lot of complications.

1265
01:43:27,650 --> 01:43:29,510
I hope for anyone listening,

1266
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:31,770
Jenny Lee understands that Fannie Mae,

1267
01:43:31,810 --> 01:43:33,510
I don't know if FHA will ensure it.

1268
01:43:33,590 --> 01:43:35,450
This goes away into inside baseball stuff,

1269
01:43:35,570 --> 01:43:37,830
but Fannie Mae is not going to buy that probably.

1270
01:43:38,590 --> 01:43:40,010
And so there will be a lot of issues there.

1271
01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:41,390
That's nothing to do with this law.

1272
01:43:41,390 --> 01:43:45,050
But, again, I'm just, I'm just questioning just for the legislative record.

1273
01:43:45,470 --> 01:43:49,270
The intent of this is just for, there's manufactured homes that are attached.

1274
01:43:49,350 --> 01:43:52,630
They're manufactured homes that are not attached, both are commonly purchased

1275
01:43:53,390 --> 01:43:56,090
in, in, in, in, in, in, and that's fine.

1276
01:43:57,150 --> 01:44:01,330
But how do we distinguish the difference between, if I, if I just rolled up,

1277
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:08,350
I don't know, a pickup truck with, you know, some crazy looking thing in the back of it,

1278
01:44:08,350 --> 01:44:12,270
I'm living out of there, that could be considered an accessory to willing unit under this bill.

1279
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:21,580
I want to point out that anything can be an accessory to willing.

1280
01:44:21,780 --> 01:44:24,940
Connex boxes that are converted in the engine near into housing.

1281
01:44:25,620 --> 01:44:34,160
Boxable, which is a company that is growing by big numbers that build casitas in 80 use.

1282
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:41,040
They are regulated through the manufactured housing division, along with what I sell.

1283
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:49,420
And I'm not the only one, even though I'm bringing this bill, I'm speaking for the industry in general.

1284
01:44:49,780 --> 01:44:57,620
We've got craftsman homes that is going to applaud if we get this past because they're going to be able to sell more homes too.

1285
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,420
I'm not doing this to sell more homes.

1286
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,560
We've got Clayton Holmes out of Vegas, which is a very big catalog store, and we've got all kinds of internet dealerships. They're all going to be selling homes.

1287
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:16,780
And they're not just factory-built homes. They're all kinds of homes that are going to fit this bill.

1288
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:24,100
I'd also, Celeste Senegal, SA and DOVA, I'd like to say that we do have a section of code

1289
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,480
in 1704 that deal with manufactured housing and factory bill homes.

1290
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,020
It does set an age limit.

1291
01:45:30,220 --> 01:45:32,280
It does state that they have to be converted to real property.

1292
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:35,660
So they aren't just able to come in.

1293
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:36,520
Thank you.

1294
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,020
I appreciate that.

1295
01:45:38,020 --> 01:45:38,960
I think that addresses it.

1296
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,280
And this is just main factor at home.

1297
01:45:40,300 --> 01:45:41,900
Housing is a, that's he has to question, which is it?

1298
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:42,140
Yes.

1299
01:45:42,140 --> 01:45:42,940
It's a correct.

1300
01:45:43,460 --> 01:45:43,700
Yeah.

1301
01:45:43,780 --> 01:45:44,440
I'm fully supportive.

1302
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:45,480
And I think we're fine.

1303
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:52,900
I just, part of this was just me trying to let people know that just be aware, I, in my business,

1304
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,140
have a lot of people who don't really understand, and there's a lot of places in the county

1305
01:45:56,140 --> 01:45:59,380
that fall in this, and they don't understand that Fannie may won't buy this, and if Fannie

1306
01:45:59,380 --> 01:46:02,580
may won't buy this, you're friendly broker around the street, probably doesn't want to originate

1307
01:46:02,580 --> 01:46:02,920
it.

1308
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,820
It's a whole long thing, but just reach out if you have any questions about what you have,

1309
01:46:06,820 --> 01:46:07,720
or what you're doing.

1310
01:46:07,780 --> 01:46:13,280
I'm sure that Mr. Schultes is, well, as a great resource for this, go to him or go to anybody

1311
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:17,260
you does this for a living and I'll be able to explain what it's about to you. I am supportive of this, but thank you.

1312
01:46:18,300 --> 01:46:18,800
Thank you.

1313
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:25,540
I wanted to touch a little bit on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This would be for subsequent, like, say that you already have a home and you have an ADU unit on there.

1314
01:46:25,980 --> 01:46:29,280
I actually did check. There's some lenders that won't do it. There's some lenders that will.

1315
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:34,520
So, Fannie Mae will not, but FHA, you can. That's Freddie Mac.

1316
01:46:35,180 --> 01:46:42,040
So, you would just have to be FHA alone as what you'd have to do and make sure you talk to your particular lender to make sure their underwriters will approve.

1317
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:48,260
And the one thing that I did find is the homes that people have where they have two homes on

1318
01:46:48,260 --> 01:46:48,820
they're already.

1319
01:46:49,460 --> 01:46:52,380
They were not approved through the county as an ADU.

1320
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:57,000
So the way it's known, or land use, it says it's two single-family residences.

1321
01:46:57,180 --> 01:46:59,140
And that's one of the underwriters issues.

1322
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,340
It has to be listed as an ADU unit, not two single-family residences.

1323
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:05,320
Thank you, ma'am.

1324
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:05,540
Yeah.

1325
01:47:05,540 --> 01:47:09,000
If they choose to ensure, if any may as a purchaser, they have to have a funding source.

1326
01:47:09,380 --> 01:47:10,260
It gets really confusing.

1327
01:47:10,260 --> 01:47:17,720
I'm just telling people I'm not trying to scare people just make sure that you know what you're doing if you're going to do this and just you'll find out first from someone like

1328
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,440
I'm a shelter whoever handles these things professionally. Thank you, sir. Thank you, madam.

1329
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:23,920
Thank you, Mr. Accounting, are you ready?

1330
01:47:24,380 --> 01:47:24,820
I'm ready.

1331
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:36,200
I would like to make a motion to adopt 90 bill 2026-12 within effective date of September 21st, 2026.

1332
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:42,680
We have a motion on the floor in two seconds. I'm going to call for the vote.

1333
01:47:44,420 --> 01:47:44,660
Aye.

1334
01:47:46,100 --> 01:47:47,520
Boss, which eye that carries five zero.

1335
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:48,980
Thank you guys. Thank you, Celeste.

1336
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:51,680
Thank you guys very much.

1337
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:52,180
Thank you.

1338
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:52,960
Great idea.

1339
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:55,960
Okay. Let's, um,

1340
01:48:02,300 --> 01:48:05,360
All right. Let's do seven, please.

1341
01:48:06,260 --> 01:48:07,080
Whoever wants to read it.

1342
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,180
Item seven, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action.

1343
01:48:11,180 --> 01:48:18,320
public hearing discussion and deliberation on a CCMP26 dashboard and application for a major

1344
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:24,500
master plan amendment to change by parcels 78.99 acres from rural density residential

1345
01:48:24,500 --> 01:48:31,980
to low density residential to conform with a proposed zone change. Located at 1, 8, 1, 0,

1346
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:38,320
south persons road 1, 8, 1, 1, 1, south Butler street 3, 3, 1, 0, east, winery road 3, 4, 4,

1347
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,760
0, e-swainary road, and 312 0, e-swainary road.

1348
01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:45,580
Provin Nevada, 89049, assessor's personal numbers.

1349
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:59,640
027, 451, 1, 3, 027, 451, 026, 027, 027, 027, 027, 451, 027, 027, 451, 027, 027, 027, 029,

1350
01:48:59,960 --> 01:49:03,600
Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helm's PLS,

1351
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:13,040
engineering, ink, agent, applicant, BCMP25-12, a conforming zone change to change six

1352
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:20,540
parcels totaling 79.43 acres from Village Residential VR-22 Village Residential VR-10 for

1353
01:49:20,540 --> 01:49:26,880
the proposed residential subdivisions to create 198 single family lots ranging from approximately

1354
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:34,700
10,000 to 20,000 square feet located at 1-810 cell persons road, 1-811 cell Butler Street,

1355
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:39,080
3-3-10 East Winery Road, 3-4-4-0 East Winery Road,

1356
01:49:39,700 --> 01:49:44,200
3-0-2-0 East have a 2-3 and 3-1-2-0 East Winery Road,

1357
01:49:45,980 --> 01:49:47,420
89049, assessors,

1358
01:49:47,740 --> 01:49:58,820
personal numbers 0-274-5-1-1-1-3-0-242-7-2-108-0-274-5-1-0-6-0-274-5-1 0-07

1359
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:09,720
1, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 9, Dennis Scott Sheldon, property owner, Timothy Sutton, ESQ, Agent applicant,

1360
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:18,740
NC, Certified Prompt Regional Planning Commission Resolution, 2,026-03, a resolution to amend the master plan designation

1361
01:50:18,740 --> 01:50:25,500
within the regional planning district, located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street,

1362
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:32,940
3310 East winery road, 3 4 0 East winery road and 312 0 East winery road,

1363
01:50:33,180 --> 01:50:38,140
manufacturer from Nevada, 8904 a assessors' portal member 0274 5111.

1364
01:50:38,980 --> 01:50:49,040
0274 510 6126, 0274 5107, 0274 5108, 02745109.

1365
01:50:49,420 --> 01:50:51,840
Dennis Scheldon propertyowner Thomas Helms.

1366
01:50:52,020 --> 01:50:54,120
PLS, Dwyer Engineering Inc.

1367
01:50:54,500 --> 01:50:54,920
Agent applicant.

1368
01:50:57,300 --> 01:50:59,920
Thanks for looking up.

1369
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:03,940
Hello, Kiana.

1370
01:51:04,820 --> 01:51:05,200
Hello.

1371
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:10,440
Kiana Medise, QIANA, MD ICI, Principal Planner.

1372
01:51:12,060 --> 01:51:17,720
The operational planning commission heard this item at their July 15th, 2020 meeting.

1373
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:24,060
After discussion of the items, the PRPC voted 4-2 to recommend approval to the Board of

1374
01:51:25,480 --> 01:51:30,920
commissioners. And we are here with the applicant. If you have any questions.

1375
01:51:31,500 --> 01:51:34,700
All right, thank you for that. So I think what we're going to do is open up public comment.

1376
01:51:37,310 --> 01:51:38,510
So come on up.

1377
01:51:43,500 --> 01:51:47,440
Good morning, Julie. And I'm use all. Emma's a Mary U. S. A. L.

1378
01:51:49,420 --> 01:51:52,240
This application is procedurally flawed.

1379
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:56,920
and violates Nye County Code Title 17 due process.

1380
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,640
First, the developer completely failed

1381
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,400
to hold the mandatory neighborhood meeting.

1382
01:52:02,780 --> 01:52:07,560
This workshop is a strict prerequisite under our zoning codes.

1383
01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:10,940
It is designed to give local citizens a voice

1384
01:52:10,940 --> 01:52:14,300
before an application moves forward by

1385
01:52:14,300 --> 01:52:18,500
pass it entirely strips the community of our legal rights

1386
01:52:18,500 --> 01:52:19,660
to do process.

1387
01:52:19,660 --> 01:52:24,860
A developer's application is legally classified as incomplete.

1388
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:30,520
The Perump Regional Planning Commission failed to uphold county code regarding neighbor

1389
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:31,240
notifications.

1390
01:52:32,020 --> 01:52:39,540
They approved a recommendation for this despite a documented breach of bill number 2023.09.

1391
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:46,760
Because the developer, our skip the mandatory community outreach, we asked the board

1392
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:53,480
county commissioners to exercise its final authority reject the recommendation and deny the

1393
01:52:53,480 --> 01:52:56,160
applicant and developers application.

1394
01:52:58,350 --> 01:53:01,550
The recommendation of approval is legally compromised

1395
01:53:01,550 --> 01:53:08,570
because it was built on a broken notice process. 9 county chose to protect its residents by

1396
01:53:08,570 --> 01:53:15,650
adopting Title 17 zoning code. I already filed a formal complaint with the planning department

1397
01:53:15,650 --> 01:53:21,810
regarding the structural violation, voting to approve this project today creates a dangerous

1398
01:53:21,810 --> 01:53:27,710
precedent and exposes the county to legal appeals over notice and due process failures

1399
01:53:27,710 --> 01:53:33,490
for the protection of paramperesidence and the integrity of our land use laws.

1400
01:53:34,090 --> 01:53:40,430
I strongly urge the Board to reject this. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone please?

1401
01:53:42,450 --> 01:53:45,830
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and follow your name for the record.

1402
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,800
Hello Commissioner's Michael David Garcia,

1403
01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:55,180
D-A-R-C-I-A, and if it's okay with y'all,

1404
01:53:55,480 --> 01:53:56,920
I just like to know that my communications

1405
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,940
okay and our line is active,

1406
01:54:02,900 --> 01:54:03,700
can you acknowledge?

1407
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:06,220
Go ahead sir.

1408
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,620
Paul, thank you, thank you, I appreciate your engagement.

1409
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:13,920
Kudos to the last speaker, really well said

1410
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:18,700
and articulated and thing that caught my ear,

1411
01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:25,940
And hopefully our state and federal partners is affiliated disclosure when it came to Tim Sutton.

1412
01:54:26,540 --> 01:54:29,840
So that's how easy it is to go at Partei.

1413
01:54:30,220 --> 01:54:30,740
Thank you all.

1414
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:32,740
Come on down both.

1415
01:54:37,110 --> 01:54:38,130
That's for Savage.

1416
01:54:38,130 --> 01:54:39,210
B.O.R.Y.

1417
01:54:39,450 --> 01:54:41,290
S.E.W.I.C.H.

1418
01:54:41,530 --> 01:54:48,910
I'm speaking on this as a regular person and not a representative of the RPC.

1419
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:53,550
I want everybody to be sure and listen to this.

1420
01:54:54,150 --> 01:54:59,550
This is 198 homes on top of the approximately.

1421
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:10,960
9,000 homes that are already in the pipeline being proposed on property with known flooding concerns.

1422
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:17,920
So we're talking 9,900 homes. What the hell? Let's just go ahead and build homes for the heck of it.

1423
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:27,800
The applicant proposes berms and detention basins on the property to hold the water that comes from the flooding.

1424
01:55:29,460 --> 01:55:39,180
Why increase the density now before we know whether the infrastructure and drainage systems necessary to support that increased density will actually work?

1425
01:55:39,180 --> 01:55:51,040
We do not have the infrastructure to support this, we need to understand our water and infrastructure and the length of time needed to plan for it before adding more density.

1426
01:55:51,900 --> 01:55:55,720
I am here to protect the integrity of the master plan.

1427
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:02,200
The master plan provides predictability, reflects community values and guides growth.

1428
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:08,720
Is the county change as a master plan every time a developer comes in and says that they want to change it

1429
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:16,780
What the heck is our master plan for I mean we wrote it we spent hours and hours and now you guys just

1430
01:56:17,180 --> 01:56:20,660
I don't understand why you keep changing these things

1431
01:56:20,660 --> 01:56:26,960
What has changed since the adoption of master plan that justifies changing the property from

1432
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,680
We're all density residential, low density.

1433
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,440
Did we get new jobs, infrastructure, more schools?

1434
01:56:33,980 --> 01:56:36,180
Do we discover another aquifer?

1435
01:56:36,780 --> 01:56:38,440
If none of these things have changed.

1436
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:40,120
Oh, thank you.

1437
01:56:40,620 --> 01:56:42,240
Sam, you got anybody for us, please?

1438
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:44,980
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

1439
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:46,820
Please begin the following name for the record.

1440
01:56:49,620 --> 01:56:52,540
Yes, Amy Nelson, any else as a win?

1441
01:56:53,140 --> 01:56:56,260
This is the one that I was listening to

1442
01:56:56,260 --> 01:57:02,900
But the planning and zoning meeting, there is many reasons not to accept it.

1443
01:57:03,260 --> 01:57:09,680
Ten Sutton's focus for the owner, who was not available to speak to anyone else except for

1444
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:14,520
him on the phone, there were a lot of questions that went unanswered.

1445
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:21,080
And part of this is a release of distance of the leeway.

1446
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:30,400
It was 1,000 feet, now it's, if this one is correct, it's 300 feet and the height of buildings was removed.

1447
01:57:31,740 --> 01:57:34,020
It's in there somewhere from the same run.

1448
01:57:35,980 --> 01:57:40,500
So this will open the door for a lot of things other than homes.

1449
01:57:40,860 --> 01:57:48,020
If we approach as too much, they'll push the more of their solar farms right there.

1450
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:55,880
they can use as much water they've resorted to saying that that's the equivalent of so many homes anyway.

1451
01:57:56,900 --> 01:58:04,300
So I'm not convinced that they won't use it. If they can't use it for data centers, there's a user for solar farms.

1452
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:08,240
So I'm not in favor of this at all. Thank you.

1453
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:12,120
Thank you, come on down, sir, and we're on item 7.

1454
01:58:14,630 --> 01:58:21,790
Stephen Pippman, PIT, MAM, I live on winery road, and the current heavy truck traffic continues to

1455
01:58:21,790 --> 01:58:27,830
destroy the sides of the road. If one of these trucks is coming towards you, you both must put your

1456
01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:33,330
right side tires off the road to pass safely. I have an eight inch by eight inch ditch at the

1457
01:58:33,330 --> 01:58:39,650
end of my driveway, I must refill every time it rains. The addition of two to 400 cars daily,

1458
01:58:40,030 --> 01:58:42,990
I'm guessing on everybody is going to work.

1459
01:58:44,150 --> 01:58:47,910
Plus service and delivery vehicles will further erode the road,

1460
01:58:48,170 --> 01:58:52,210
even if some of the vehicles exit the development onto Cortina Street.

1461
01:58:53,110 --> 01:58:56,390
If you thought traffic at 160 in Homestead was bad,

1462
01:58:56,570 --> 01:59:00,350
just waiting to see how bad the traffic at 160 and winery becomes,

1463
01:59:00,890 --> 01:59:02,690
should this development be permitted?

1464
01:59:04,570 --> 01:59:05,970
You all have this.

1465
01:59:07,430 --> 01:59:08,070
I live there.

1466
01:59:09,290 --> 01:59:14,870
Right in the middle of it, is there a need for a hundred and ninety-eight tightly packed

1467
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:17,510
point two acre houses in this area?

1468
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:23,270
There are over two hundred empty half acre lots in the winery area between Warnery Road and

1469
01:59:23,270 --> 01:59:23,890
Zuni Avenue.

1470
01:59:24,150 --> 01:59:25,130
I counted this morning.

1471
01:59:26,230 --> 01:59:31,390
Finally, the addition of multi-story houses in this development will restrict my view

1472
01:59:31,390 --> 01:59:33,550
of the Mount Charleston Range.

1473
01:59:33,550 --> 01:59:35,350
I urge you to deny this.

1474
01:59:35,810 --> 01:59:36,270
Thank you.

1475
01:59:36,510 --> 01:59:36,970
Thank you.

1476
01:59:36,970 --> 01:59:38,490
Anybody on the phone, please?

1477
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,940
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

1478
01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:43,800
Please speak of the spelling or name for the record.

1479
01:59:47,420 --> 01:59:50,440
My name is Matt Sather, FADLE R.

1480
01:59:51,220 --> 01:59:57,160
There's going to have to come a point in time where we have to kind of put our foot down and stop.

1481
01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,060
Stop measures like this.

1482
01:59:59,100 --> 01:59:59,960
The plan calls for...

1483
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:20,820
Our larger lots that are pushing, you know, half acre, 0.4 acre, and you're trying to chop them down into 0.2, a little over 0.2, that's going to get to the character of the surrounding neighborhood, the expectations of the neighbors when they first their homes in light of what's happening in the master plan.

1484
02:00:20,820 --> 02:00:24,260
And I just think it's wrong and I think it's setting a bad press.

1485
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:32,280
And unfettered growth to the take of unfettered growth is not going to be a benefit for our community, not just my two cents, thanks a lot.

1486
02:00:32,900 --> 02:00:33,100
Thank you.

1487
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:33,960
Thank you.

1488
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:34,220
Thank you.

1489
02:00:34,220 --> 02:00:34,380
Thank you.

1490
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:34,500
Thank

1491
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,140
you.

1492
02:00:40,380 --> 02:00:47,840
There seems to be a pattern here where residents are not notified prior to projects beginning in areas.

1493
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:49,920
This is not the first one.

1494
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,340
So if that's trying to be, you know,

1495
02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:55,620
skim by without notifying the residents and I'm sorry,

1496
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,240
but Mr. Sutton here has a pattern of, you know,

1497
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:01,260
being dishonest with the community.

1498
02:01:02,260 --> 02:01:06,260
So with that alone, best, best stay a lot.

1499
02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:13,890
Now, sides that, I don't understand why it's things like this,

1500
02:01:14,050 --> 02:01:16,250
that are not necessary, that it's no way going to benefit

1501
02:01:16,250 --> 02:01:18,710
anybody in the community, all right?

1502
02:01:18,710 --> 02:01:23,950
But unlike the other issue that we had on the agenda, there was a benefit to the community.

1503
02:01:26,510 --> 02:01:30,590
Nobody's looking at how it's affecting the other residents on anything it seems like.

1504
02:01:31,570 --> 02:01:34,410
And I think that certain things need to be reviewed.

1505
02:01:35,010 --> 02:01:40,850
I think maybe the commissioners need to go out there and view the area before making decisions on anything.

1506
02:01:42,230 --> 02:01:46,670
And as far as I can see the planning commission nor this board ever goes out to these properties,

1507
02:01:46,670 --> 02:01:51,750
or do these proposed sites to view the area to get an idea of what's going on.

1508
02:01:52,210 --> 02:01:57,170
So, how you guys can look at this decision on anything based off of that is beyond me.

1509
02:01:57,510 --> 02:01:59,710
And as far as I'm concerned though, this should be denied.

1510
02:02:00,750 --> 02:02:01,550
Thank you.

1511
02:02:01,830 --> 02:02:03,270
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

1512
02:02:04,530 --> 02:02:08,070
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spoken name for the record.

1513
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:17,380
Tricia's home, R-O-B-B. Sorry, it has been sick.

1514
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:21,060
Yeah, I agree with everyone else.

1515
02:02:21,900 --> 02:02:27,300
And not only that, I'm kind of tired of seeing all these developers coming in here

1516
02:02:27,300 --> 02:02:33,020
and trying to take over our town when it's supposed to be a rural, unincorporated town.

1517
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:37,700
I don't know whatever happened to the code of the West, but it seems to have been forgotten.

1518
02:02:37,700 --> 02:02:41,560
And I think that everybody would like to have more of the code of the way.

1519
02:02:42,060 --> 02:02:47,460
Not only that, I feel as though giving priority to other people for these big developments

1520
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:54,140
is basically overseeing all of the utility challenge blocks and their rights.

1521
02:02:54,460 --> 02:02:56,540
They deserve to not be ignored.

1522
02:02:57,380 --> 02:02:58,380
Thank you.

1523
02:02:58,620 --> 02:02:59,060
Thank you.

1524
02:02:59,260 --> 02:02:59,860
Come on down, sir.

1525
02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:11,300
afternoon, Richard Hunter, H-U-N-T-E-R. I also live on winery road. I've been there

1526
02:03:11,300 --> 02:03:15,560
less than five years and we've had three different occasions where public

1527
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:21,260
quirks had to come out, cleaned the road. Recently we had a little pond going

1528
02:03:21,260 --> 02:03:31,760
at winery down by the mobile station. All the heavy trucks we ended up with a

1529
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:39,520
people developing things. But until we have the proper drainage, you know, it's just not going

1530
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:45,240
to work. And flood control is something that's getting out of hand in this community.

1531
02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:51,820
Because I mean, look, if we cover up 80 acres, where's that water going to go? It's not

1532
02:03:51,820 --> 02:03:57,160
fair to the people when you're sending all that water and debris into their property.

1533
02:04:03,170 --> 02:04:03,730
I'm

1534
02:04:03,730 --> 02:04:11,770
to look at some different ways of doing to qualify these people for building there.

1535
02:04:12,030 --> 02:04:14,650
And flood control has got to be one of them.

1536
02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:15,390
Thank you.

1537
02:04:15,770 --> 02:04:15,970
Thanks, sir.

1538
02:04:16,270 --> 02:04:16,870
Come on, Dancer.

1539
02:04:27,630 --> 02:04:27,890
Okay.

1540
02:04:28,190 --> 02:04:34,370
My name is Mike McKenzie, MECK, ENCA, E Splash Mall, BHL.

1541
02:04:34,850 --> 02:04:39,430
I've 42 years experience in what I call a man event, what I call a distribution

1542
02:04:39,430 --> 02:04:40,170
management.

1543
02:04:40,170 --> 02:04:46,250
member of the American Society of Civil Engineering since 1994 and what are facilities

1544
02:04:46,250 --> 02:04:52,210
construction. Commissioners, I'm against this zoning change. Some of the reason smaller

1545
02:04:52,210 --> 02:04:58,710
wants to not create more water, more road money, more share, more fire capacity,

1546
02:04:59,190 --> 02:04:59,970
You'll need to create more.

1547
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:10,200
Our houses on the same land. 8162s we already know is a verb-pump, overallocated. You just voted 5-0 for a water ban.

1548
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:18,260
Because it will opt for a soft submission to take that giant man. Housing density is the same math on a smaller scale.

1549
02:05:18,260 --> 02:05:20,920
A half acre lot is one household.

1550
02:05:21,580 --> 02:05:26,080
Cut that down to 10,000, 20,000 square feet.

1551
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:28,240
Then now you're typing four more toilets.

1552
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:32,560
More sinks, more landscape, more people watching the cars.

1553
02:05:33,420 --> 02:05:34,440
We can't handle that.

1554
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:38,640
And rezoning does not add one acre foot of water

1555
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:40,120
to the sock for her.

1556
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:44,800
It's going to take away roads, services, work area.

1557
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:46,480
They all work the same way.

1558
02:05:46,700 --> 02:05:47,380
More houses.

1559
02:05:47,380 --> 02:05:52,820
means more road trips. There are already failing. Take a look at Hayford Ranch Road. You have

1560
02:05:52,820 --> 02:05:59,000
that development going there. That road is proud. I'm sorry for my language. So again, I'm

1561
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:04,760
just against it. Please be careful what you do. We only have one arc part. Don't add more

1562
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,340
people to it. Thank you, sir. Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

1563
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:13,120
No chair.

1564
02:06:13,660 --> 02:06:14,220
One down, Linda.

1565
02:06:16,810 --> 02:06:21,390
Linda Clark, Sally R. K. I heard the last meeting we went to when they talked

1566
02:06:21,390 --> 02:06:26,810
about this project. It sounds nice and a nice neighborhood, but I listen to the people that live

1567
02:06:26,810 --> 02:06:33,330
there that talk about the flooding, the bad streets, in a flood zone, and how many problems

1568
02:06:33,330 --> 02:06:39,850
they were having with the water. And I think, why are we doing this to people? Doesn't make

1569
02:06:39,850 --> 02:06:40,690
any sense?

1570
02:06:43,350 --> 02:06:47,990
It's lunacy, if you ask me, all these building in these new homes, they're lovely.

1571
02:06:47,990 --> 02:06:54,250
Sure, they are costs a lot of money. We have a lot of them sitting bake it because it can't sell them

1572
02:06:54,250 --> 02:06:58,950
We have a lot of houses in the development around the whole town that aren't selling and

1573
02:07:00,070 --> 02:07:04,710
I understand that our property values based on a figure I heard this morning or yesterday

1574
02:07:04,710 --> 02:07:08,130
It gone down at least 2% to probably more than that

1575
02:07:08,610 --> 02:07:10,810
So if we're gonna keep building homes

1576
02:07:10,810 --> 02:07:14,030
What's the purpose if there's not gonna be anybody the wants them?

1577
02:07:14,510 --> 02:07:18,330
Yeah, eventually, you might sell them, but we've got a lot of problems that we need to

1578
02:07:18,330 --> 02:07:19,670
solve before we get to that point.

1579
02:07:19,970 --> 02:07:26,030
And we can't keep building homes and keep using water we don't have to, for who?

1580
02:07:26,530 --> 02:07:27,010
Developers?

1581
02:07:27,150 --> 02:07:30,990
Nothing I get, Mr. Shuddin, and his fat, I don't care who it is.

1582
02:07:31,570 --> 02:07:36,610
There is too much of this going on in our community that needs to stop.

1583
02:07:36,750 --> 02:07:40,770
We've got to take a stop and start looking at where are we going?

1584
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:44,610
I understand even the fairgrounds is on a flood zone.

1585
02:07:45,090 --> 02:07:46,950
Do you think the BLM wanted to keep it?

1586
02:07:47,230 --> 02:07:49,190
No, give it to the city to count.

1587
02:07:49,450 --> 02:07:50,510
They didn't want it.

1588
02:07:50,850 --> 02:07:52,710
Okay, so where do we go from here?

1589
02:07:53,230 --> 02:07:57,550
We need to put a big stop, a big plug in the hole

1590
02:07:57,550 --> 02:08:00,410
and start looking at where we're going in this town

1591
02:08:00,410 --> 02:08:03,470
and why are we overbuilding with stuff that we don't need.

1592
02:08:03,950 --> 02:08:05,570
You think all these people are going to come here

1593
02:08:05,570 --> 02:08:06,530
and fill these homes?

1594
02:08:06,970 --> 02:08:07,710
There's no jobs.

1595
02:08:07,990 --> 02:08:08,530
Oh, I know.

1596
02:08:08,530 --> 02:08:13,610
We're going to have the solar jobs and we're going to have all the DC jobs, that's a bunch

1597
02:08:13,610 --> 02:08:15,270
of bull crap that we know it.

1598
02:08:15,730 --> 02:08:17,390
So, where are the people going to work?

1599
02:08:17,910 --> 02:08:19,170
Yeah, we're going to have a lot of kids.

1600
02:08:19,590 --> 02:08:21,390
I heard we had $20,000 kids here.

1601
02:08:21,410 --> 02:08:22,170
Do you believe that?

1602
02:08:22,350 --> 02:08:23,330
Thank you.

1603
02:08:23,790 --> 02:08:24,890
Sam, anybody in the phone, please?

1604
02:08:25,230 --> 02:08:25,690
No chair.

1605
02:08:26,110 --> 02:08:26,830
Come on down, sir.

1606
02:08:31,140 --> 02:08:33,460
Michael Bergen, last name is B.U.R.

1607
02:08:33,500 --> 02:08:37,340
G.A.N., I oppose this change for three reasons.

1608
02:08:37,340 --> 02:08:44,120
First, I think the master plan is already identified and of acreage for high-density subdivisions.

1609
02:08:44,260 --> 02:08:45,220
We don't need to add anymore.

1610
02:08:46,220 --> 02:08:54,920
Second, I believe the plan submitted violates NCC16.28.155.

1611
02:08:54,920 --> 02:09:01,580
This says you can't have lots less than 20,000 square feet unless you have a PUD or an approved

1612
02:09:01,580 --> 02:09:03,440
development agreement and either exist.

1613
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:10,500
Third, this lot is for sale, the owner from Vegas, bought it for a million, he's selling

1614
02:09:10,500 --> 02:09:17,220
it for 7.5 million, hasn't been improved, he has no intention to build on it, the

1615
02:09:17,220 --> 02:09:20,680
zone change has only one goal to increase his profit.

1616
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:28,340
So, commissioners, you want to side with your constituents in Prump who are against this,

1617
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:32,080
or would want to take the side of a land speculator from Clark County.

1618
02:09:33,340 --> 02:09:35,100
Thank you, Sam and I will be on the phone please.

1619
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:38,180
No chair.

1620
02:09:38,420 --> 02:09:38,480
No chair.

1621
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:39,240
All day or anything.

1622
02:09:43,300 --> 02:09:46,400
Anthony Greco, GRECO, I'm against this.

1623
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:55,540
I don't think until after July of 27 and we get a water study, we should do anything more than one or two homes at a time.

1624
02:09:56,020 --> 02:09:59,320
People who have property for years that want to retire here, that's fine.

1625
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:05,920
These developments we don't need it. And everything we don't want, Tim Sutton's representing

1626
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:12,160
them people. Okay, this seems to be a problem to me. I don't know if he's a bad guy or not,

1627
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:16,620
but in my opinion, I'm going to need two showers just to get some standing next to him.

1628
02:10:19,660 --> 02:10:23,580
We can be polite, say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

1629
02:10:26,330 --> 02:10:26,730
No chair.

1630
02:10:27,070 --> 02:10:28,030
Mondays on Deborah.

1631
02:10:33,410 --> 02:10:37,090
Deborah Thomas, THOMAS.

1632
02:10:40,620 --> 02:10:50,220
This is a, this is not a good thing, especially after what I just heard the previous gentleman say.

1633
02:10:52,060 --> 02:11:02,380
But I know that developers buy and buy, make improvements, make changes to zoning or whatever,

1634
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:05,640
and then they sell it for a major profit.

1635
02:11:06,990 --> 02:11:11,520
I don't think we need to, we should be doing that in an I-county.

1636
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:16,020
It needs to be, the developer is going to build on it.

1637
02:11:16,020 --> 02:11:24,260
It needs to be the developers going to pay for the extra infrastructure to prevent the flooding.

1638
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:35,800
And if they decide that they want to have public community water system, they need to pay for that too.

1639
02:11:36,420 --> 02:11:40,660
That's how I feel very strongly about that coming from a family of builders and developers.

1640
02:11:40,660 --> 02:11:41,840
Come

1641
02:11:44,020 --> 02:11:45,100
on down to our

1642
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:56,400
commissioners, Reggie Federal, FEDR on, you know, our family, we love

1643
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:57,120
Trump.

1644
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:04,780
And the housing, having 100 additional 98 forms, we live up in that direction on a winery.

1645
02:12:06,540 --> 02:12:13,280
At small parcels, it's going to look like a mini Las Vegas to me, and anyway, and I think

1646
02:12:13,280 --> 02:12:18,480
We need to rethink this out before we agree with this.

1647
02:12:19,060 --> 02:12:24,220
There's going to be a lot of construction vehicles and we go up winery road.

1648
02:12:24,860 --> 02:12:30,840
And it's not getting any better because of the trucks going up and down it.

1649
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:33,160
The road issues surface damage.

1650
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:40,880
And here again, I'm thinking about the aquifer, the water situation.

1651
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:45,520
And I know you mentioned that, you know, it's just, you will as me.

1652
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:53,080
I think we need to do more research, less homes, and maybe one or two at the most, you know.

1653
02:12:53,220 --> 02:12:58,700
And I really think that's the two, particularly on this phone.

1654
02:12:58,800 --> 02:12:59,620
Thank you.

1655
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:00,560
Thank you, sir.

1656
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:01,720
Come on down, Susie.

1657
02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:06,820
Susie.

1658
02:13:06,940 --> 02:13:08,720
Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

1659
02:13:09,780 --> 02:13:12,420
Mr. Bergram was right on spot.

1660
02:13:12,420 --> 02:13:21,620
And I think some of this information needs to come out here because of the people who are sitting in this audience who didn't read the back up and don't know the history.

1661
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:32,660
I attended the RPC meeting where this was voted upon and there were dozens of people speaking against this project for a variety of very logical reasons.

1662
02:13:32,660 --> 02:13:48,000
I also read the back of for this item today, and there are dozens and dozens of no responses from the residents within the immediate area of this project.

1663
02:13:48,580 --> 02:13:55,780
So, there are lots of noes, even though the RPC passed at, they only passed at 4 to 2.

1664
02:13:56,020 --> 02:14:02,880
So, it was not a conclusive super enthusiastic response, and I think a lot of that is,

1665
02:14:02,900 --> 02:14:05,680
because of the push that comes from the planning department.

1666
02:14:06,500 --> 02:14:13,020
And once again, I'm going to say that I think that there's too much that happens in the planning department

1667
02:14:13,020 --> 02:14:21,120
that then gets foisted upon the RPC and then you and you have little to say about it or you do say a little about it.

1668
02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:32,560
298 homes on quarter acre lots or less is going to be every housing development that you see in Las Vegas when you drive in on Blue Diamond.

1669
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:39,900
Little box houses, three stories tall inches apart from each other. That is not perump.

1670
02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:42,580
We don't have the infrastructure for it.

1671
02:14:43,380 --> 02:14:50,520
The application does not include their doing anything about the schools, fire, and police.

1672
02:14:51,640 --> 02:14:54,380
And neither has anybody in the county spoken to that.

1673
02:14:54,380 --> 02:14:59,880
We don't have infrastructure for that for 198 homes, equally.

1674
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:08,920
At least 400 new residents, likely 600 or 800 residents, or 1,000 residents, and the cars to go with it.

1675
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:09,360
Thanks.

1676
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:10,740
No, please.

1677
02:15:11,040 --> 02:15:11,760
Anybody in the phone, please?

1678
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:16,100
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the name for the record.

1679
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:26,240
Hi, my name is Dawn Murphy, and you are PHY, and I have a two-fold problem up here.

1680
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:55,820
I live up in the vineyards right next to the plants of division or whatever it's going to be and I don't want that in my neighborhood. That's too many houses. 189 house or 98 houses is too many. We already have too many subdivisions going in with these small little lots. I really don't want this to continue to go on. Also, you do realize that one of the roads that goes up against is called

1681
02:15:55,820 --> 02:16:00,100
industrial road, we have gravel pits over there and I own gravel pits over there.

1682
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:06,220
I own a gravel pit over there. I don't own a I own yards over there. So when they get this in

1683
02:16:06,220 --> 02:16:11,500
or they're going to start giving me a problem because now you know, they move next to my business

1684
02:16:11,500 --> 02:16:17,320
state. I didn't move next to theirs. You know, those businesses have been up there for years. So

1685
02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:24,400
I am thoroughly opposed for all the reasons everybody else has stated, including my own. Thank you so

1686
02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:27,480
have a nice day. Thank you, don't come on up, Tammy.

1687
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:33,100
Tammy,

1688
02:16:33,260 --> 02:16:38,400
Pittman, PIT, M again. So yes, I live in the winery. And the

1689
02:16:38,400 --> 02:16:41,120
winery is currently zoned for two homes per acre.

1690
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:43,900
There are some

1691
02:16:43,900 --> 02:16:46,820
homes in the vineyard that receive permission for a quarter acre

1692
02:16:46,820 --> 02:16:51,140
lots, but predominantly it's all half acre lots. Perump has high

1693
02:16:51,140 --> 02:16:54,560
density developments in the south end of town. And if we have to

1694
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:59,320
have them, which I'm not a fan of, they need to stay there. People

1695
02:16:59,320 --> 02:17:06,280
move to Perump to own a house that is not cheek by jowl with their neighbors and they move

1696
02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:13,840
here to Perump to have a home. They also want 360 degrees stunning views that we have. The

1697
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:18,240
Las Vegas style hand your neighbor, a cup of sugar out the window, needs to stay in Vegas.

1698
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:27,100
Plan for their planning for down to a 16th of an acre lots with zero lot lines. I already know

1699
02:17:28,340 --> 02:17:34,880
Anyone who's property is on the lower winery or a person's road will no longer enjoy our stunning sunsets

1700
02:17:34,880 --> 02:17:40,860
or and will lose their privacy as people are peering over their back fence into their backyards.

1701
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:46,360
These are our front yards depending if you're on down winery.

1702
02:17:46,940 --> 02:17:51,120
The three story homes I see me, their property values are also going to plummet.

1703
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:54,840
It's common dollars that our basin is already severely

1704
02:17:56,180 --> 02:17:56,760
overallocated.

1705
02:17:57,880 --> 02:18:00,740
And the proposed density would put eight times the water usage

1706
02:18:00,740 --> 02:18:02,200
been currently allocated.

1707
02:18:02,860 --> 02:18:04,080
That's unconscionable.

1708
02:18:04,640 --> 02:18:07,560
We already, I know I only have two minutes.

1709
02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:09,960
The owner of this property does not have live here

1710
02:18:09,960 --> 02:18:11,820
and does not experience the effects of this urban

1711
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:13,440
blight in the midst of our town.

1712
02:18:13,980 --> 02:18:16,740
The motivations for anyone championing this project

1713
02:18:16,740 --> 02:18:18,060
should be examined closely.

1714
02:18:18,540 --> 02:18:19,680
Please vote no.

1715
02:18:20,990 --> 02:18:23,110
Perfect timing. Thank you. Come on down,

1716
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:29,760
Dwight.

1717
02:18:30,980 --> 02:18:31,940
There you go.

1718
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:40,400
Right, Lily, Eli, Eli, Eli. I was at the planning board meeting when this room was packed with people from the winery objecting to this development.

1719
02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:49,860
And I guess I'm just not understanding my wife and I moved here this going on 24 years to a world down.

1720
02:18:49,860 --> 02:18:55,940
And it was laid out with master plans and master plans that have been read done and now we

1721
02:18:55,940 --> 02:19:03,260
seem to be tearing the master plan up one development at a time where again high density

1722
02:19:03,260 --> 02:19:09,880
housing into a world down, which is by its very nature would be larger lots.

1723
02:19:10,380 --> 02:19:16,540
Now this is affecting the people up in the winery industry, but it's also affecting people driving

1724
02:19:16,540 --> 02:19:26,060
on Homestead that we'll see another 4,500 cars a day coming on to 160 in an intersex

1725
02:19:26,060 --> 02:19:30,280
and it's already screwed up from the gas station, it was built there on the corner.

1726
02:19:31,140 --> 02:19:32,000
So there's that issue.

1727
02:19:32,140 --> 02:19:33,440
They've got the flooding issue.

1728
02:19:35,060 --> 02:19:39,280
The county and the town doesn't have the resource, it's a service to population.

1729
02:19:39,620 --> 02:19:44,440
It has now, yet it's anticipating adding thousands of more people.

1730
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:49,280
Commission, this doesn't make any sense, this development, I'm not going to speak on another

1731
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:54,980
one that's on the agenda, but why are we continually having people come to the planning

1732
02:19:54,980 --> 02:19:59,960
commission, coming to the planning planners, and getting approved?

1733
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:07,700
Global for density housing, high-density housing, when we're a roll town with limited resource. We have

1734
02:20:07,700 --> 02:20:14,660
12,000 acre feet of confirmed water from the last study with another 3,000 acre feet deeper into

1735
02:20:14,660 --> 02:20:20,020
the ground that we haven't even explored yet, and yet we keep piling people into this. I don't

1736
02:20:20,020 --> 02:20:27,340
understand it. I want you to turn this down. I want you to turn them leaf here and go by the master

1737
02:20:27,340 --> 02:20:32,600
we have right now. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down in front please.

1738
02:20:36,050 --> 02:20:45,050
Hi commissioners. Mary Greenspan Blackwell, BLACKW. I LL. I'm just here to speak from my heart today.

1739
02:20:45,450 --> 02:20:53,050
Everyone's giving you such great legal advice and this and that, but I moved here 30 years ago.

1740
02:20:53,050 --> 02:20:55,090
And I was in real estate.

1741
02:20:55,790 --> 02:20:58,770
When I first started selling out here 30 years ago,

1742
02:20:59,130 --> 02:21:01,810
people were coming to me, they wanted an acre lot.

1743
02:21:02,350 --> 02:21:04,410
They wanted horse property.

1744
02:21:04,890 --> 02:21:07,210
And that's the way it was for many years.

1745
02:21:08,030 --> 02:21:12,850
And then people were happy when the half acre homes came in,

1746
02:21:12,850 --> 02:21:15,630
because an acre is too big for some people.

1747
02:21:16,090 --> 02:21:20,970
And then we were so thrilled when Mountain Falls started developing,

1748
02:21:20,970 --> 02:21:28,850
it gave the people that wanted that type of living area, a place to live and everybody was happy.

1749
02:21:29,710 --> 02:21:36,690
And all the 30 years that I was working here sold hundreds and hundreds of properties and homes

1750
02:21:36,690 --> 02:21:44,570
I never once had anybody come and say, oh I'd like to live in a little box that's right next door

1751
02:21:44,570 --> 02:21:50,670
where I don't if I sneeze somebody's gonna hear me. That's not why any of us moved here to

1752
02:21:50,670 --> 02:21:56,650
We love this place. The way it is. And I understand development. I understand progress.

1753
02:21:56,770 --> 02:22:07,130
I'm not against it. But please, you guys are the stewards of this valley. Would you just please think twice before you, you know,

1754
02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:15,410
make this a place that I got to go down to Vegas and look at that ugly, those ugly homes as I'm going down blue diamond.

1755
02:22:15,410 --> 02:22:20,210
we don't I don't want to look out my window and see that and I don't think you do either.

1756
02:22:20,630 --> 02:22:24,610
Thank you please vote no. Thank you Sam anybody on the phone please.

1757
02:22:32,570 --> 02:22:32,850
No chair.

1758
02:22:33,910 --> 02:22:39,330
You're not close public comment. All right, commissioners questions for the folks.

1759
02:22:40,270 --> 02:22:41,070
Any folks?

1760
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:45,780
There is a chairman. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

1761
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,500
You mean my gavel if you like it. It's up to you.

1762
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:53,700
Mr. Chairman, who do you want me to speak her?

1763
02:22:53,700 --> 02:22:54,460
Yeah, go ahead, sir.

1764
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:55,500
Thank you.

1765
02:22:56,300 --> 02:22:56,380
Thank you, Mr.

1766
02:22:58,000 --> 02:22:59,220
This is my district.

1767
02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:03,480
So I obviously know more about this than some of their developments going on.

1768
02:23:05,420 --> 02:23:10,520
One thing I want to point out is a strange thing that happens here with property discussions.

1769
02:23:11,780 --> 02:23:13,840
And I want everyone to be aware of this.

1770
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:17,240
I've heard the same people talking about property rights.

1771
02:23:17,900 --> 02:23:20,320
You're saying, well, do whatever we want with your land, it's your land.

1772
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:26,320
I want to see you do whatever you want with your land and then they speak on something

1773
02:23:26,320 --> 02:23:29,240
like this and they say, well, no, you can't, you can't do this.

1774
02:23:30,940 --> 02:23:34,700
I'm just warning that if we run around telling people, do whatever we want with your property,

1775
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:38,740
this would catch up not just to these people, but to us as a government, if we take a position

1776
02:23:38,740 --> 02:23:45,260
of this, no water for developments like this, but yes, water, if you want to put 300 tiny

1777
02:23:45,260 --> 02:23:51,380
homes in a one-acre lot, using consistent, that best it does raise concerns about equal protection.

1778
02:23:51,660 --> 02:23:54,720
And I just want people to think about that, some people who are not admonishing anyone,

1779
02:23:54,880 --> 02:23:59,260
I'm just saying be aware of that because it's an inconsistent position and it could be legally

1780
02:23:59,260 --> 02:24:02,320
potentially dangerous if we as a county hold that position.

1781
02:24:02,500 --> 02:24:06,460
It's okay for you to speak on it, but it's just something that I want to point out.

1782
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:09,600
My objection here is pretty simple.

1783
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:12,840
I do not like the density being proposed here.

1784
02:24:12,840 --> 02:24:18,000
addition of homes here right now, which are two separate issues, and there are three things

1785
02:24:18,500 --> 02:24:22,260
that I want to discuss about this. One is traffic.

1786
02:24:25,140 --> 02:24:26,500
I don't, I know, come here to your

1787
02:24:26,500 --> 02:24:30,740
boards from Massachusetts, I know, to people who should call it out there, and root nine

1788
02:24:30,740 --> 02:24:35,380
in Massachusetts, I watched as well as they built up a native built up in those towns. root nine

1789
02:24:35,380 --> 02:24:41,560
is a kind of a just a road almost almost, actually, almost exactly like 160, and it just got

1790
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:48,220
North and North and I have memories 25 years ago sitting in traffic and you go, you know, half a mile and 20 minutes

1791
02:24:49,400 --> 02:24:53,660
Chicago the same thing for my Chicago people root 34 for those of you and those Western suburbs

1792
02:24:53,660 --> 02:24:59,960
I live there for a short period and you see this is just a natural occurrence when you start dumping housing in places that

1793
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:26,080
May not necessarily be for that kind of housing, but exceptions are made, or plans were bad. My concern, it's not even about my district. Here, it's about the traffic on that corner. That corner, on homestead, 160, could potentially be very, very bad, especially people are going the persons. And I know that there's another access that they want through the little area, under the people in court.

1794
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:30,780
have no love that, but uh, that we're going to go up to Parsons to access this. It's going to

1795
02:25:30,780 --> 02:25:35,720
just dump all of this traffic in that area. It will back up on the street, probably in both directions,

1796
02:25:35,800 --> 02:25:40,220
and then we have that disaster across the street with the people all turning around illegally,

1797
02:25:40,340 --> 02:25:44,200
because they want to be able to go from the gas station, the pot store, or wherever they're going.

1798
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:49,220
Lieutenant Clensor promised me he would retire until they fixed that light. He retired anyway. He's

1799
02:25:49,220 --> 02:25:53,340
still mad about the light. I'm sure out there somewhere. The light we have been able to fix for a

1800
02:25:53,340 --> 02:25:58,220
years now. It's just if we can't fix a light, I just don't know if we can be trusted.

1801
02:25:58,540 --> 02:26:04,640
As a government to do this, I think we really let our people down. So that's the traffic

1802
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:11,020
part of it. The infrastructure part of it. It are the eroding roads. You know, we all passed

1803
02:26:11,020 --> 02:26:14,500
a million dollars a row to pair. And you never guessed it because money wasn't spent

1804
02:26:14,500 --> 02:26:20,320
in your career later. The plan, as we found out, was to give them money back. I used that

1805
02:26:20,320 --> 02:26:29,080
story and I get a laugh every single time from somebody who's I'm meeting with, but that's the reality here, that's the reality here and I can.

1806
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:39,480
The infrastructure is not catch up with this kind of densely packed development or any development right now in that area.

1807
02:26:39,480 --> 02:26:45,580
it's not conducive to that. The roads, infrastructure, I guess they go, they go hand in hand.

1808
02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:49,060
My objection isn't water, not a water engineer, I'm not a scientist.

1809
02:26:51,740 --> 02:26:55,300
I'm in a terrible school in science, so I'm not going to pretend to know anything about water.

1810
02:26:56,460 --> 02:27:00,700
And that's out of our jurisdiction as the DA will tell you is the water is owned by the state.

1811
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:06,020
So we can object on those grounds. And it's fine, but my objection is just it makes no sense to put this here.

1812
02:27:06,020 --> 02:27:11,320
the density of it makes no sense. It will affect every single traveler who goes down there,

1813
02:27:11,480 --> 02:27:16,320
not just people in my neighborhood, or people in my district. And that is why I post this

1814
02:27:16,320 --> 02:27:21,320
thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to speak after Commissioner of Strict

1815
02:27:21,320 --> 02:27:25,560
Flint, please. Sure. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1816
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:29,760
Thank you, Chair. I was just going to ask about the flooding. I see that there's been some measures

1817
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:35,600
within this subdivision to address flooding and was wondering what you foresee here. It's hard

1818
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:40,620
It's hard to see when you look at it online, and if the people have even seen that,

1819
02:27:40,660 --> 02:27:45,220
to take it or measures, because why do roads have been a challenge for a long time?

1820
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:49,780
And I just think it's nice for once someone's coming forward with some ideas for flooding.

1821
02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:51,740
I'm not saying I'm supporting the project.

1822
02:27:52,320 --> 02:27:53,700
I would just like to hear about that, please.

1823
02:28:01,640 --> 02:28:02,560
Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

1824
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:04,040
I didn't know if we would have an opportunity to speak.

1825
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:05,280
I'm glad we did.

1826
02:28:05,420 --> 02:28:07,720
I would like to address that concern along with several others.

1827
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:15,000
Tim Sutton, issue TTO in, with Sutton Law and Consulting Group, here on behalf of the property owner, Scott Sheldon.

1828
02:28:16,220 --> 02:28:24,360
So, as Keanu mentioned, this is a 190-home subdivision plan for on 80 acres.

1829
02:28:24,780 --> 02:28:30,600
And I guess I'm a little perplexed on all of the comments on regarding density.

1830
02:28:32,360 --> 02:28:39,000
the neighboring winery subdivision contains 100 homes on 40 acres.

1831
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,040
We're proposing 200 homes on 200 acres.

1832
02:28:42,740 --> 02:28:45,520
If we wanted to develop under the existing zoning right now,

1833
02:28:45,620 --> 02:28:49,540
we could build 163 of those homes without any approvals at all,

1834
02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:50,640
other than a development agreement.

1835
02:28:51,180 --> 02:28:53,000
Development agreement was mentioned previously.

1836
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:57,480
If you notice in your backup, I believe it was Mr. Hunter,

1837
02:28:58,420 --> 02:29:02,720
Yeah, Mr. Hunter, I think who mentioned the need for it about money agreement, that's absolutely true.

1838
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:09,660
We do need a development agreement, that's a condition of approval, should the board choose to approve this subdivision?

1839
02:29:11,820 --> 02:29:25,400
The you asked about the flood control as has been mentioned by several people flooding is a significant concern in this area, which is why the developer chose to put significant flooding prevention

1840
02:29:25,400 --> 02:29:33,640
in the form of retention basis, retention basins slash open space property there.

1841
02:29:35,160 --> 02:29:41,040
So under an I county code, the current requirement for this level of subdivision would

1842
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:48,400
be 1.14 acres of open space, the developers putting in 20 acres, that's 25% of the

1843
02:29:48,400 --> 02:29:55,260
acreage, that's unprecedented, so there's quite a significant bit of real estate being committed

1844
02:29:55,260 --> 02:29:57,360
to address flooding concerns that have been raised.

1845
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:10,540
As far as the other concern, traffic, as far as the traffic concerns that have been raised, yes, of course, if you have more people, that's going to create some traffic concerns.

1846
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:16,980
However, bakes into our development and approval process is public works review, which addresses all those things.

1847
02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:27,360
There's impact fees that need to be paid in order to address those, whether it's widening the road, creating more ingress and egress, adding more layers of compaction onto the roads.

1848
02:30:27,360 --> 02:30:32,920
I mean, that's all baked into our process, along with the impact fees for roads that would

1849
02:30:32,920 --> 02:30:36,700
be required to be paid upon approval of the development agreement.

1850
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:43,120
One of the things I wanted to note that came over from the RPC was that there were concerns

1851
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:50,860
raised about only having one single story rather than multi-story housing homes being built.

1852
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:56,460
That was something that the developer considered to at the RPC level and was made contingent

1853
02:30:56,460 --> 02:30:59,060
on the approval, just wanted to bring that forward.

1854
02:30:59,700 --> 02:31:02,840
Other than that, commissioners, people are making it sound

1855
02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:04,700
like we're building mountain falls right next to the winery.

1856
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:05,320
That's not the case.

1857
02:31:05,460 --> 02:31:07,120
We're building the winery right next to the winery.

1858
02:31:08,180 --> 02:31:10,760
If you look at the map there, if you click on any of the lots

1859
02:31:10,760 --> 02:31:12,860
to the right, I think there's a couple along the road

1860
02:31:12,860 --> 02:31:15,420
that are half acre locks, but other than that,

1861
02:31:15,980 --> 02:31:18,100
they're smaller than the lots that we're

1862
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:18,880
that are being proposed now.

1863
02:31:18,920 --> 02:31:20,280
There are VR8 lots.

1864
02:31:20,860 --> 02:31:25,780
The lot size is 8,500 square feet on average for those lots.

1865
02:31:25,780 --> 02:31:28,260
We're proposing 10,000 square foot lots of minimum.

1866
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:31,320
So the representations that you've heard

1867
02:31:31,320 --> 02:31:33,940
that this is increasing density in terms of the area,

1868
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:37,380
at least not to the east, where the winery subdivision exists,

1869
02:31:37,540 --> 02:31:38,760
it's simply not true.

1870
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:42,780
So if there aren't any other questions, I'll say that.

1871
02:31:42,780 --> 02:31:43,960
If I may continue to share.

1872
02:31:44,560 --> 02:31:47,620
So we are doing a comparative to the vineyards.

1873
02:31:48,180 --> 02:31:51,600
The vineyards itself is the one that has the smaller lots.

1874
02:31:52,820 --> 02:31:55,320
And I believe you just stated, Mr. Sutton,

1875
02:31:55,320 --> 02:31:58,440
that you have the ability with the current zoning

1876
02:31:58,440 --> 02:32:04,000
to do 163 homes, and this would be 198 homes.

1877
02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:05,360
Did I get that right?

1878
02:32:06,460 --> 02:32:10,660
Okay, so that being correct, you're adding 35 homes,

1879
02:32:11,060 --> 02:32:14,860
but putting in flood control that you wouldn't have to do

1880
02:32:14,860 --> 02:32:15,940
if you just built the homes,

1881
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:18,700
because you don't need, and the development agreement

1882
02:32:18,700 --> 02:32:21,220
could also talk about traffic.

1883
02:32:21,220 --> 02:32:29,120
So I don't know much, but I do know that having the flood control would be exquisite.

1884
02:32:29,480 --> 02:32:31,240
I'm very concerned about that area.

1885
02:32:31,580 --> 02:32:33,120
We all have been for a long time.

1886
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:38,220
That's the only thing I don't know, Commissioner.

1887
02:32:39,700 --> 02:32:41,840
This is your district, Mr. Bain.

1888
02:32:42,660 --> 02:32:49,560
And that being your district, have you considered the differentiation between the current approved homes

1889
02:32:49,560 --> 02:32:53,880
If it go in versus this subdivision and not having any flight control.

1890
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:57,220
And while we have this thing called leading the witness,

1891
02:32:57,440 --> 02:33:01,120
about that in my head, DA, you like that?

1892
02:33:01,780 --> 02:33:04,500
I, unfortunately, cannot object under these circumstances,

1893
02:33:05,860 --> 02:33:07,800
but anyone is an attorney, you're not an attorney, look that up.

1894
02:33:07,900 --> 02:33:08,940
I'm gonna get a kid and I'll let go.

1895
02:33:08,980 --> 02:33:09,540
Thank you, later.

1896
02:33:10,840 --> 02:33:11,960
I've considered everything.

1897
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:16,880
I mean, the reality is, if you compare it to something that's more dense,

1898
02:33:16,880 --> 02:33:19,280
It's not dense, but the request is to change the zone

1899
02:33:19,280 --> 02:33:21,880
to allow more homes than, or they're now.

1900
02:33:22,960 --> 02:33:23,880
That's a fact.

1901
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:25,340
I mean, we can debate it if you want,

1902
02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:28,740
but the debate has ended with a statement for me.

1903
02:33:28,820 --> 02:33:29,140
Perfect.

1904
02:33:29,480 --> 02:33:31,000
I have considered all of it.

1905
02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:31,900
The responsibility of the traffic.

1906
02:33:32,180 --> 02:33:33,640
It does not change things with the traffic.

1907
02:33:33,860 --> 02:33:34,720
It's going to increase traffic.

1908
02:33:34,880 --> 02:33:35,820
It's going to increase strain.

1909
02:33:36,420 --> 02:33:38,480
And again, I would say that if anyone in the state

1910
02:33:38,480 --> 02:33:40,540
of Nevada can fix that light that's

1911
02:33:40,540 --> 02:33:42,780
we've been asking to fix for two years now.

1912
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:46,400
And maybe then we can bring this back up for a vote.

1913
02:33:46,400 --> 02:33:49,080
because if we can't even get a second added on to that light

1914
02:33:49,080 --> 02:33:52,720
and no one can figure it out and I've talked to all seven and dot people that apparently

1915
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:56,140
are six and dot people the handle of this place

1916
02:33:56,140 --> 02:34:00,780
then I can't even think about adding this and if we can't figure out how to spend a million dollars

1917
02:34:00,780 --> 02:34:05,620
on road repair that sits there and rocks somewhere and the plan is to give it back.

1918
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:09,560
I don't know how we can possibly do something like this here.

1919
02:34:09,800 --> 02:34:15,320
This makes no sense maybe if I can answer those I'd be amenable to looking to this further

1920
02:34:15,320 --> 02:34:19,140
as it now still in now. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you, Chair.

1921
02:34:19,480 --> 02:34:25,700
Thank you. Love having the conversation and seeing what the other commissioners feel and what they see.

1922
02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:30,100
And it's, it's, this is a rewarding job because of that. Thank you, sir.

1923
02:34:30,420 --> 02:34:32,540
Thank you. Now we're going to hear from commissioners before.

1924
02:34:33,960 --> 02:34:42,140
Well, thank you, Chair. Thank you, commissioners. I thought at one point Mr. Sutton jumped up and cut us all off.

1925
02:34:43,060 --> 02:34:48,840
appreciate the clarification and I'd like to give some clarification as well.

1926
02:34:49,220 --> 02:34:55,840
Commissioner Bane is correct originally from born and raised, educated in Massachusetts,

1927
02:34:55,840 --> 02:34:59,960
root 9 as in root 128 which

1928
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:10,200
No longer exists, no, it's 95, those who are old, those who are old, horse and cattle routes, a different route, that actually is a different route.

1929
02:35:10,460 --> 02:35:12,340
That actually is a different route, no, it goes west.

1930
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:16,900
Yes, route 9 goes west to the western part and leads into New York.

1931
02:35:17,760 --> 02:35:27,300
So, anyway, to clarify something else is that what I've said time and time again is when people have their own land.

1932
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:32,580
And they comply with what they're wanting to do.

1933
02:35:32,880 --> 02:35:33,320
Who are we?

1934
02:35:33,460 --> 02:35:36,060
We are not the landslars to tell them no.

1935
02:35:36,420 --> 02:35:39,960
So we have to be able to compare apples to apples.

1936
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:45,480
And this is an apple to an orange at this point of what's written in here

1937
02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:50,820
in the back up in on the agenda because they're asking us to change.

1938
02:35:51,400 --> 02:35:56,420
They're asking us to change something that they're already zone for.

1939
02:35:56,420 --> 02:36:03,500
And yes, they're able to move forward with 163 homes if this is rejected.

1940
02:36:04,060 --> 02:36:08,040
I get it, but we do have to keep things into perspective.

1941
02:36:10,280 --> 02:36:21,320
Mr. Sutton mentioned in Guassie Grats, layers and helping to correct any of what is that.

1942
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:23,380
That's why we're going back and forth.

1943
02:36:23,380 --> 02:36:27,900
So is there a plan, because I didn't see it, you can help me here?

1944
02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:35,560
Is there a plan for additional ingress egress to this development, besides winery road?

1945
02:36:37,160 --> 02:36:42,660
First question, when do you plan on commencing if this is approved?

1946
02:36:45,330 --> 02:36:46,350
Thank you, Commissioner Borg.

1947
02:36:46,450 --> 02:36:51,570
Yes, that would be addressed during the tentative map stage, or the final map stage, by

1948
02:36:51,570 --> 02:36:52,130
public works.

1949
02:36:52,130 --> 02:36:58,930
they'd come in, I believe a traffic study has already been conducted on this parcel, and so

1950
02:36:58,930 --> 02:37:05,770
I think they found that, why don't we road plus a road and I apologize, Parsons Road would

1951
02:37:05,770 --> 02:37:10,690
be the one that would address the ingress and egress of the subdivision.

1952
02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:17,320
Where does Parsons Road exit on to?

1953
02:37:24,400 --> 02:37:25,960
Industrial Commissioner.

1954
02:37:27,220 --> 02:37:47,680
So we'll go through and as one of the commenters spoke and said that they have, it's not just one, but there's a few pits that are up there, so Parsons Road, so this will be a well-traveled area for not only commercial, but also residential traffic.

1955
02:37:48,180 --> 02:37:49,980
If this was improved, approved.

1956
02:37:51,220 --> 02:37:51,480
Yes?

1957
02:37:52,820 --> 02:37:53,400
Yes, Commissioner.

1958
02:37:54,560 --> 02:38:01,060
Okay, and then the other question please, Mr. Sutton is, if this was to be approved, when do you plan on building?

1959
02:38:05,190 --> 02:38:10,590
I believe there was a requirement to get the development agreement passed within a year.

1960
02:38:11,270 --> 02:38:17,430
I believe Mr. Sheldon's on the phone, I don't know exactly when the proposed phasing is supposed to happen.

1961
02:38:18,530 --> 02:38:25,130
Okay, so the plan is, the plan is to actually build and not to flip this property.

1962
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:31,360
I don't know if Mr. Shelton's plan to flip the property or not, but that's not uncommon

1963
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:35,040
in the development world to have so many get the entitlements for a particular piece of

1964
02:38:35,040 --> 02:38:36,860
property and then develop it.

1965
02:38:38,660 --> 02:38:41,720
I understand, Mr. Sutton, I appreciate your kindness.

1966
02:38:42,460 --> 02:38:46,940
I suppose I'm going to be considered, I'm leading the witness.

1967
02:38:49,820 --> 02:38:52,940
You just can't do it for friendly.

1968
02:38:53,420 --> 02:38:54,020
That's how the rule.

1969
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:56,020
Oh, I'm not being held still at all.

1970
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:57,800
I'm not being we're all friends here.

1971
02:38:58,000 --> 02:38:59,580
Yeah, we're trying to make things happen.

1972
02:39:00,860 --> 02:39:07,000
So, you know, something that I read in the back up that really concerns me is

1973
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:11,400
21 acres of this project if it was to move forward.

1974
02:39:11,940 --> 02:39:16,120
21 acres is proposed to be retention basins.

1975
02:39:17,740 --> 02:39:28,940
And park areas. Is that right? That's correct. Yes. So retention basin. I mean, the visual

1976
02:39:28,940 --> 02:39:34,940
that I got. And by the way, I do visit the different properties, things that to the best

1977
02:39:34,940 --> 02:39:41,440
of my ability when I'm back and forth and all over the county. But visual that came to mind

1978
02:39:41,440 --> 02:39:49,560
is the horrific and tragic events that occurred on and at Death Valley when we had all of

1979
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:56,320
these people in Death Valley and all of a sudden the torrential rains and the floods came

1980
02:39:56,320 --> 02:39:59,960
and they're still missing, and my condolences to.

1981
02:40:04,940 --> 02:40:19,200
We're proposing to have a retention basin up on top of the middle of the fan with a park area for people to go and enjoy. And then at the snap, at the snap of a whip, there could be torrential rains.

1982
02:40:24,270 --> 02:40:33,910
Is this a possibility of a potential catastrophic area being created?

1983
02:40:33,910 --> 02:40:34,750
I

1984
02:40:36,860 --> 02:40:38,160
guess I'm not understanding the question.

1985
02:40:38,740 --> 02:40:39,940
Commissioner, I guess I'm not understanding.

1986
02:40:40,200 --> 02:40:45,480
Are you concerned that the retention basin

1987
02:40:45,480 --> 02:40:49,460
would somehow create a hazard or?

1988
02:40:53,650 --> 02:40:57,510
I mean, if the retention basin is going to capture any water

1989
02:40:57,510 --> 02:41:01,590
that's coming down off the fan into that area,

1990
02:41:01,910 --> 02:41:06,910
why would we put a park there and place people in danger

1991
02:41:06,910 --> 02:41:08,450
potentially in danger.

1992
02:41:12,320 --> 02:41:16,480
Fisher, Jaboor, we've got Bernard, the engineer here, who would like to address your concern.

1993
02:41:18,040 --> 02:41:19,000
Thank you.

1994
02:41:19,540 --> 02:41:25,700
The name is Bernardo, Zane, Z-A-N-I-N, and I am the civil engineer design.

1995
02:41:26,580 --> 02:41:33,440
We have been working for a long time with a drainage study on this one, and the detention

1996
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:42,860
basin is going to contain the water and let it flow slowly so it doesn't go the way it's

1997
02:41:42,860 --> 02:41:53,480
doing already on the winery so we are going to keep and let it flow in a slow pattern and the

1998
02:41:53,480 --> 02:42:01,640
detention basin is not it's going to be about 5 feet deep by the volume that we calculated and

1999
02:42:01,640 --> 02:42:07,900
with 1, 2, 3 slopes on the sides, so it's not, it won't be any

2000
02:42:07,900 --> 02:42:12,200
hazard for the people over there. And there will be, of course,

2001
02:42:12,700 --> 02:42:20,740
signalling about the flood area. So, it is a dress on the

2002
02:42:20,740 --> 02:42:21,360
seavow side.

2003
02:42:24,750 --> 02:42:29,990
Thank you, Mr. Bergzo. I respectfully disagree.

2004
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:34,390
I am not an engineer, but I disagree with living in and

2005
02:42:34,390 --> 02:42:37,190
perump and in the Perump Valley, and in

2006
02:42:37,190 --> 02:42:40,190
my county for many, many years and seeing what

2007
02:42:40,190 --> 02:42:43,610
torrential reigns can do and what it does do within

2008
02:42:43,610 --> 02:42:46,190
seconds, within seconds.

2009
02:42:49,660 --> 02:42:51,600
But I appreciate, but I

2010
02:42:51,600 --> 02:42:55,100
appreciate you clarifying, obviously you've addressed it

2011
02:42:55,100 --> 02:42:56,480
because it's a concern.

2012
02:42:58,880 --> 02:43:01,920
As we, if we're

2013
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:09,880
Anyone, a real big, during the study, there is the property to the north of us that

2014
02:43:09,880 --> 02:43:15,880
we are currently using as a reference as well, and a few other on homestead.

2015
02:43:16,800 --> 02:43:23,580
So we do have analyzed a lot of flows from the Wheeler wash, and we are addressing the best

2016
02:43:24,300 --> 02:43:25,580
as possible.

2017
02:43:28,900 --> 02:43:29,280
Thank you.

2018
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:30,780
Thank you.

2019
02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:34,420
Thank you, sir.

2020
02:43:34,420 --> 02:43:42,300
It's on your time just for a reason you would ask about the axis and I understand the axis is on Parsons and I understand people don't memorize

2021
02:43:42,300 --> 02:43:48,860
Everyone else's neighborhood. I get it. That's why we have different districts. We represent, but the idea that someone's going to be accessing on Parsons

2022
02:43:48,860 --> 02:43:54,260
And go around in a big circle to go anywhere and then go to one 60 is

2023
02:43:54,260 --> 02:44:02,580
Pretty ridiculous. They're going to obviously go right down to winery and go barreling down winery. So I just want to make that play is it everyone saying and no one's going to go down

2024
02:44:02,580 --> 02:44:04,640
and does trust me, no one's going to go down and do this.

2025
02:44:04,780 --> 02:44:08,840
No one's going to go all the way around two miles around to then go back and on the other side.

2026
02:44:08,980 --> 02:44:10,180
They're going to go right down Parsons.

2027
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:15,460
And I know it's intended to do and they may even be a little bump out to suggest, but

2028
02:44:15,460 --> 02:44:20,100
that they go not not the shortest distance, but we all know if you want to drive down your break

2029
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:23,940
and sit there for five minutes in the corner of Homestead, 116, tell me how many people you see

2030
02:44:23,940 --> 02:44:28,660
taking you turns around that ridiculous thing that they put in the middle of the road, you have your answer.

2031
02:44:29,160 --> 02:44:31,440
So we cannot tell people what to do, especially in Toronto.

2032
02:44:31,440 --> 02:44:33,240
They're going to do the opposite if they want to.

2033
02:44:33,400 --> 02:44:36,040
So we cannot direct them not to go right down,

2034
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:37,640
barely down, and that is my concern.

2035
02:44:37,880 --> 02:44:38,200
Thank you, sir.

2036
02:44:38,680 --> 02:44:40,400
Thank you, Commissioner Bain.

2037
02:44:40,540 --> 02:44:43,140
No, I certainly appreciate that, because

2038
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:47,860
and I know exactly where you're talking about.

2039
02:44:48,520 --> 02:44:50,120
I understand the proposed

2040
02:44:50,120 --> 02:44:54,380
in Guessi Guessi, the additional proposed in Guessi Guessi,

2041
02:44:54,380 --> 02:44:59,160
which is wonderful because it does have to do with safety

2042
02:44:59,440 --> 02:44:59,960
in your apps.

2043
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,820
Absolutely right. Why would somebody drive all the way around, unless they see the traffic lined up back

2044
02:45:06,820 --> 02:45:13,780
up whether they're going to work. They're going to school. They're going on a pleasure trip for the day.

2045
02:45:14,920 --> 02:45:20,920
But I'm going to turn it back over to you, Chair. I think I'm satisfied with the questions, answers,

2046
02:45:21,260 --> 02:45:27,940
public comments, et cetera. Thank you, Commissioner. Mr. Colleen, you're going to. I don't really

2047
02:45:27,940 --> 02:45:36,160
have anything to add except that. I think Mr. Sutton, you said you're going to put 200 homes

2048
02:45:36,160 --> 02:45:40,940
on 200 acres that's not on 200 acres, it's 98 acres.

2049
02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:45,600
Actually, 88 acres, I apologize. That's what I meant to say.

2050
02:45:45,700 --> 02:45:54,680
Just lead to. Yeah, it was a winery has 100 homes on 40 acres. This is 200 homes on 80 acres.

2051
02:45:55,000 --> 02:45:57,020
Right. Thank you for that clarification.

2052
02:45:57,020 --> 02:46:07,810
So it's still smaller, okay? That's all I had, just smaller than the current, than your loss, because I think they're...

2053
02:46:07,810 --> 02:46:20,500
It's still, well, you're putting 198 homes on 80 acres, around that 7.9, rounded up to 80.

2054
02:46:21,340 --> 02:46:23,320
So it's still less than half an acre.

2055
02:46:23,660 --> 02:46:23,980
Right.

2056
02:46:26,120 --> 02:46:27,820
When you go anything for us?

2057
02:46:28,660 --> 02:46:29,380
Wait, not a motion?

2058
02:46:34,530 --> 02:46:35,230
Anybody going

2059
02:46:51,130 --> 02:46:54,590
to make a motion on this?

2060
02:46:54,790 --> 02:46:55,910
Ian, it's our commissioner.

2061
02:46:56,070 --> 02:46:56,770
Banes your district.

2062
02:46:57,030 --> 02:47:02,990
Whether it's on page 6 of 6 in your back up if you want to read it.

2063
02:47:03,690 --> 02:47:04,490
No, thank you.

2064
02:47:07,500 --> 02:47:07,760
All right.

2065
02:47:10,500 --> 02:47:13,700
This item does not ask for lack of a motion.

2066
02:47:14,820 --> 02:47:16,320
Which means it can come back.

2067
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:21,200
You can make sure.

2068
02:47:21,660 --> 02:47:22,340
Thank you, guys.

2069
02:47:25,360 --> 02:47:34,220
eight please see if we can speed it up. Item eight 10 AM DIMED item for possible action

2070
02:47:34,220 --> 02:47:45,580
public hearing discussion in deliberation on WV-26-28, a waiver of NCC-16.20.160 for building

2071
02:47:45,580 --> 02:47:52,200
setback requirements at the property located at 108 and 126 South Prospect, Tonopada Vada.

2072
02:47:52,200 --> 02:48:05,160
assessors parcel number 008-142-01 and 008-142-02 Bradley DeBore trust property owner Kevin

2073
02:48:05,160 --> 02:48:10,940
asked you applicant agent. Okay thank you for that all right guys please be

2074
02:48:10,940 --> 02:48:19,380
quiet so we can hear Keanna. Thank you. Yeah I'm a DCQIA and a MEDICI principal

2075
02:48:19,380 --> 02:48:20,700
planner, and I can't be planning.

2076
02:48:21,680 --> 02:48:27,780
The applicant is requesting a waiver from an ICANN code 162160C, as existing structures

2077
02:48:27,780 --> 02:48:32,520
are already located within the setback area identified by the code, and requiring strict

2078
02:48:32,520 --> 02:48:36,760
compliance with the current setback standards would create an unnecessary hardship while providing

2079
02:48:36,760 --> 02:48:38,760
little or no additional public benefit.

2080
02:48:39,720 --> 02:48:45,160
The property owner has submitted a land division map LD-2615, purpose of this parcel map

2081
02:48:45,160 --> 02:48:49,800
is to move the existing property line between the two parcels to create a more practical

2082
02:48:49,800 --> 02:48:52,840
plot layout and improve the future resell value of properties.

2083
02:48:54,160 --> 02:48:57,140
No new parcels are being created as part of this request.

2084
02:48:57,740 --> 02:49:01,720
The adjustment only changes the location of the common boundary between the existing parcels.

2085
02:49:02,360 --> 02:49:05,720
We revise boundary law results and parcels that are more functional, easier to market

2086
02:49:05,720 --> 02:49:08,700
and better suited for future ownership and use.

2087
02:49:09,640 --> 02:49:10,340
Thank you for that.

2088
02:49:10,340 --> 02:49:10,640
All right.

2089
02:49:10,640 --> 02:49:12,140
Let's start with public comment.

2090
02:49:12,140 --> 02:49:14,800
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

2091
02:49:18,350 --> 02:49:18,910
No chair.

2092
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:20,550
Come on down on both.

2093
02:49:24,410 --> 02:49:26,490
Best for Savage B.O.R.Y.

2094
02:49:26,770 --> 02:49:28,610
S.E.W.I.C.H.

2095
02:49:28,850 --> 02:49:32,970
I did not personally go there, but I did do Google Maps.

2096
02:49:33,810 --> 02:49:35,750
And I also did Google Earth.

2097
02:49:36,550 --> 02:49:38,690
There is a mobile home there.

2098
02:49:38,770 --> 02:49:40,770
There's a utility shed.

2099
02:49:41,130 --> 02:49:42,830
There's a demolished home.

2100
02:49:43,950 --> 02:49:48,150
And some other buildings there that can be easily moved.

2101
02:49:48,150 --> 02:49:54,430
I'm not sure that we need to give them a setback.

2102
02:49:54,850 --> 02:49:56,690
I'm not sure this should pass.

2103
02:49:57,550 --> 02:49:59,970
It's the whole area is kind of...

2104
02:50:01,170 --> 02:50:30,230
Oh, I don't even know how to put it. It's just everything seems to be demolished except for the mobile home and the shed. So I'm not sure why they're asking for a setback. They need to clean up the land first before they can determine what they're going to do. They just want to sell the property. It looks like I understand that. However, it should be cleaned up before any determination is made about this. Thank you.

2105
02:50:31,170 --> 02:50:32,830
I'm in anybody on the phone, please.

2106
02:50:36,430 --> 02:50:36,810
No chair.

2107
02:50:37,130 --> 02:50:38,050
I close public comment.

2108
02:50:39,390 --> 02:50:39,950
Commissioners.

2109
02:50:40,270 --> 02:50:40,890
Lots of questions.

2110
02:50:46,140 --> 02:50:47,760
I have no questions, Chair.

2111
02:50:48,020 --> 02:50:52,120
I too know the street and the property of the last

2112
02:50:52,120 --> 02:50:53,420
commenter is correct.

2113
02:50:53,760 --> 02:50:57,720
The whole street looks different, especially from

2114
02:50:58,520 --> 02:51:02,660
Google Earth from above versus on the street.

2115
02:51:03,000 --> 02:51:05,220
But at the same time, this is a formality.

2116
02:51:07,000 --> 02:51:13,660
And I will motion to approve second we have a motion a second I'm going to call for the vote.

2117
02:51:15,640 --> 02:51:16,280
The board is aye.

2118
02:51:16,760 --> 02:51:16,840
Aye.

2119
02:51:17,060 --> 02:51:18,400
Oscar Chai, that carries five zero.

2120
02:51:18,560 --> 02:51:19,220
Thank you.

2121
02:51:23,650 --> 02:51:25,890
If we can do a few more real quick.

2122
02:51:28,040 --> 02:51:30,220
Let's do consent 11 please.

2123
02:51:40,500 --> 02:51:41,840
Do you have to read them?

2124
02:51:44,060 --> 02:51:46,140
Item 11 consent to gen items.

2125
02:51:46,740 --> 02:51:49,020
These are items that staff recommend for approval.

2126
02:51:49,020 --> 02:51:54,380
The board reserves are right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda.

2127
02:51:54,900 --> 02:51:56,840
Should issues arise that need to be addressed?

2128
02:51:57,260 --> 02:52:03,440
Discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that need to review before a decision is made?

2129
02:52:03,820 --> 02:52:10,300
This will be item 11.1, 11.2, 11.3, B only.

2130
02:52:12,380 --> 02:52:18,560
11.4, A, B and C, 11.5, A, B and C, 11.6, A, B and C.

2131
02:52:19,420 --> 02:52:23,920
11.7, A-B-N-C, 11.8, A-B-N-C,

2132
02:52:26,420 --> 02:52:31,900
11.9, A-N-B, and 11.10, A-B-C.

2133
02:52:33,620 --> 02:52:34,380
Okay, thank you for that.

2134
02:52:34,380 --> 02:52:37,280
So I'm going to open up public comment right now on any one of those items.

2135
02:52:37,560 --> 02:52:39,040
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

2136
02:52:43,320 --> 02:52:43,760
Yes, Chair.

2137
02:52:43,860 --> 02:52:44,860
The caller is then muted.

2138
02:52:45,340 --> 02:52:46,880
Please, speak and spell your name for the record.

2139
02:52:49,930 --> 02:52:50,230
Yes.

2140
02:52:53,490 --> 02:53:01,230
I saw a grid of lions on here, now I enlarged it, now I lost it, I'm not quite sure why

2141
02:53:01,850 --> 02:53:05,910
the grid of lions is asking for anything.

2142
02:53:06,810 --> 02:53:08,150
That was actually pulled.

2143
02:53:09,190 --> 02:53:10,370
That was a first one.

2144
02:53:10,590 --> 02:53:11,790
Sorry, just be.

2145
02:53:11,990 --> 02:53:12,450
Go ahead.

2146
02:53:14,150 --> 02:53:29,570
So, anyway, if it's got to do with solar farms out there, I don't think anybody's in favor of them getting approved for any change, there's already amount of money.

2147
02:53:29,930 --> 02:53:32,390
If they're on this, I can't find it.

2148
02:53:33,550 --> 02:53:37,270
But I'll wait and listen and see what happens with this. Thank you.

2149
02:53:37,270 --> 02:53:38,130
Thank you.

2150
02:53:38,330 --> 02:53:39,490
Come on down.

2151
02:53:39,790 --> 02:53:40,590
Mr. Pittman.

2152
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:47,520
Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, 116.

2153
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:48,480
Can I go there?

2154
02:53:51,660 --> 02:53:57,900
116 is an Office of Traffic Safety, and I can assure our officer, impairment, enforcement, grant,

2155
02:53:58,020 --> 02:54:04,980
award for $30,000, there is an in-kind match of $7,500, where are we going to find that

2156
02:54:04,980 --> 02:54:05,400
money?

2157
02:54:06,260 --> 02:54:15,120
and 11.7 same thing for traffic safety joining forces grant award and we have to

2158
02:54:15,120 --> 02:54:27,000
come up with a match of 115 and 11.8 and then kind match of 11,250 dollars in the positive

2159
02:54:27,000 --> 02:54:41,440
side 11, 10, the chief has wants to put up two large towers with sirens on them to warn

2160
02:54:41,440 --> 02:54:46,920
of disaster, and that's a good thing, but the rest with these in-kind matches, that's

2161
02:54:46,920 --> 02:54:47,740
a lot of money.

2162
02:54:48,100 --> 02:54:48,860
Where do we get that?

2163
02:54:48,940 --> 02:54:49,660
Thank you, sir.

2164
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:50,600
Thank you.

2165
02:54:50,700 --> 02:54:51,740
Sam and I will be on the phone, please.

2166
02:54:54,570 --> 02:54:54,950
Yes, Chair.

2167
02:54:55,030 --> 02:54:55,970
The caller is unmuted.

2168
02:54:56,130 --> 02:54:57,810
Please speak in the spelling of your name for the record.

2169
02:55:01,840 --> 02:55:08,740
Welcome, Mr. Nurse Michael Davis, our CGA, our CIA. And I just want to let it be known for the record.

2170
02:55:09,220 --> 02:55:14,720
The reason why we're not using the clock is because nobody knows how to re-program it in two minutes.

2171
02:55:15,700 --> 02:55:15,880
Thank you.

2172
02:55:17,900 --> 02:55:22,440
Absolutely not true. Come on down. Mr. Jackson.

2173
02:55:25,180 --> 02:55:29,780
Angelina Jackson, J. E. C. K. K. So, and so it seems like there's a lot of issues,

2174
02:55:30,380 --> 02:55:39,740
you know, jam packed into, into one here, which is, um, kind of, you know, unclear for

2175
02:55:39,740 --> 02:55:44,720
on a lot of issues here. One is with a grudded lions. I have a friend that lives over

2176
02:55:44,720 --> 02:55:51,000
off a factory road, and grud alliance without notifying her, nobody notified her prior to

2177
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:55,500
those analogous to the last year. They are over there and they are, when they spray the ground,

2178
02:55:56,140 --> 02:56:00,920
all right, to keep the dust from going, I have pictures where the whole side of her house

2179
02:56:00,920 --> 02:56:05,460
and her yard and everything gets wet. They are out there at three, four in the morning with flood

2180
02:56:05,460 --> 02:56:11,960
lights in her window and diesel trucks running all night. Nobody ever mourned her of this.

2181
02:56:13,720 --> 02:56:21,270
So given them things like this where it's, it doesn't give enough information and like I said,

2182
02:56:21,270 --> 02:56:24,290
I don't understand why so many issues are packed into one,

2183
02:56:24,950 --> 02:56:26,290
because nothing is very clear.

2184
02:56:26,770 --> 02:56:30,210
And neither are the, you know, when they prepare the issue

2185
02:56:30,210 --> 02:56:31,090
to go on the agenda.

2186
02:56:31,650 --> 02:56:33,830
There's nothing on there that's clear on anything at either.

2187
02:56:36,250 --> 02:56:39,930
So that's kind of, you know, I don't understand why it's like that.

2188
02:56:40,050 --> 02:56:43,690
We can't, it's too many issues on one for anybody to comment on,

2189
02:56:43,690 --> 02:56:44,930
especially within two minutes.

2190
02:56:45,630 --> 02:56:49,810
But for the grid alliance, go out there and see where she's at,

2191
02:56:49,810 --> 02:56:55,750
her house is and where they're put they just put down the the slabs for the towers that go up.

2192
02:56:56,090 --> 02:57:02,390
It's literally like for me to you and she's the only house that it's affecting because it's

2193
02:57:02,390 --> 02:57:07,670
she's that far out but nobody's notified her the environmental issues that's going on with this

2194
02:57:07,670 --> 02:57:13,590
because where they have the barrier for the overflow of water it's nothing I mean there's nothing

2195
02:57:13,590 --> 02:57:19,130
standing there anymore there's nothing be you know protected the wall the barrier from her

2196
02:57:19,130 --> 02:57:21,290
retainer wall is literally this far.

2197
02:57:22,230 --> 02:57:24,230
I have pictures and videos of it to show you.

2198
02:57:24,790 --> 02:57:28,110
And this is why I mentioned earlier about it seems

2199
02:57:28,110 --> 02:57:31,790
that it seems to be a thing where the residents

2200
02:57:31,790 --> 02:57:36,150
are being notified or to say something about it.

2201
02:57:36,370 --> 02:57:37,430
Something needs to be done with this.

2202
02:57:37,630 --> 02:57:38,570
So I say no.

2203
02:57:38,950 --> 02:57:39,790
I know of it.

2204
02:57:39,810 --> 02:57:40,810
Thank you.

2205
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:41,590
I don't know, Linda.

2206
02:57:46,690 --> 02:57:47,770
I've been to Clark, Shale, OK.

2207
02:57:47,970 --> 02:57:49,030
I just want clarification.

2208
02:57:49,570 --> 02:57:54,890
Ron, did you say number 11, you were going to hold aside for something?

2209
02:57:56,510 --> 02:58:01,290
No, it was 11.3 a.

2210
02:58:01,670 --> 02:58:03,670
We took it off.

2211
02:58:03,770 --> 02:58:04,710
3.8.

2212
02:58:05,390 --> 02:58:07,730
Yeah, that's the one I have a question about.

2213
02:58:08,270 --> 02:58:09,970
Yeah, that one's been pulled.

2214
02:58:10,450 --> 02:58:12,510
Linda, it all come back on another agenda.

2215
02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:13,290
I hope so.

2216
02:58:13,290 --> 02:58:14,230
It was a typo in there.

2217
02:58:15,010 --> 02:58:15,690
Thank you.

2218
02:58:15,950 --> 02:58:16,670
Thank you.

2219
02:58:16,910 --> 02:58:17,970
Come on down, Deborah.

2220
02:58:22,540 --> 02:58:27,480
Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

2221
02:58:31,970 --> 02:58:44,430
Grid Alliance has lost lawsuits in three states and multiple countries.

2222
02:58:45,610 --> 02:58:52,050
I would not want them to do anything here because most of it was over contamination.

2223
02:58:52,950 --> 02:58:53,630
Thank you.

2224
02:58:57,000 --> 02:58:57,740
Thank you.

2225
02:58:59,180 --> 02:59:01,520
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

2226
02:59:01,680 --> 02:59:02,300
No chair.

2227
02:59:03,120 --> 02:59:05,360
We're going to close public and we'll listen to chair.

2228
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:07,900
Can I clear something not going like?

2229
02:59:08,460 --> 02:59:13,320
The grid line side I'm that you guys are voting on is a road remediation agreement.

2230
02:59:14,220 --> 02:59:21,800
For the SUP that you guys approve quite some time ago for the upgrade to their transmission line.

2231
02:59:22,260 --> 02:59:27,720
We're not approving a project, you're approving an agreement so we can get a road fixed if they damage it.

2232
02:59:30,160 --> 02:59:35,700
I just want to clarify that, it sounds like what he just said.

2233
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:38,640
This is just an agreement so that we would have some kind of recourse and the event that

2234
02:59:38,640 --> 02:59:39,740
arose for our damage.

2235
02:59:39,780 --> 02:59:40,560
That's what I'm told.

2236
02:59:41,400 --> 02:59:42,460
I know there's a lot of confusion here.

2237
02:59:42,520 --> 02:59:44,540
I don't blame anyone on this particular one.

2238
02:59:44,540 --> 02:59:45,260
I don't want to be on the top.

2239
02:59:45,460 --> 02:59:49,080
But I have driven up there and talked to these people up there doing the stuff they're doing

2240
02:59:49,080 --> 02:59:50,460
and they've asked them to do certain things.

2241
02:59:50,580 --> 02:59:51,500
And they've done certain things.

2242
02:59:52,360 --> 02:59:55,320
It's, it's about, it was approved before I got here and it's approved.

2243
02:59:55,320 --> 02:59:59,960
It is what it is, but as far as this is concerned, all this would do is.

2244
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,300
Just give us the ability to have an agreement in case things get destroyed. So that's, I just want to be clear about that for everyone.

2245
03:00:05,860 --> 03:00:06,860
Thank you for the clarification.

2246
03:00:07,140 --> 03:00:07,180
Thank you.

2247
03:00:08,360 --> 03:00:08,880
Morning, Sheriff.

2248
03:00:09,100 --> 03:00:10,060
I'm sorry.

2249
03:00:10,340 --> 03:00:10,820
Good afternoon.

2250
03:00:12,220 --> 03:00:16,720
I just wanted to respond to Mr. Pittman's comment or question.

2251
03:00:17,260 --> 03:00:23,320
Each of the joining forces or traffic safety grants that

2252
03:00:24,720 --> 03:00:36,980
In kind match for each of these items is being met by the fuel cost, we're in terror of the vehicle, the maintenance of the vehicle, so we're not actually having to put out any money to them.

2253
03:00:37,580 --> 03:00:38,980
This is a wash.

2254
03:00:41,480 --> 03:00:41,960
Thank you.

2255
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:42,740
Thank you, sir.

2256
03:00:44,020 --> 03:00:44,040
Okay.

2257
03:00:44,040 --> 03:00:47,400
It gives me a chair, go ahead, go ahead.

2258
03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:47,980
Go ahead.

2259
03:00:47,980 --> 03:00:49,040
I'm going to share your board.

2260
03:00:49,380 --> 03:00:49,500
Thank you.

2261
03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:51,020
Oh, Joe.

2262
03:00:51,560 --> 03:00:53,280
Before you walk away.

2263
03:00:55,080 --> 03:00:58,140
That wasn't the only one that was unclear.

2264
03:00:58,380 --> 03:01:03,700
And if you could, Sheriff, I mean, 11.6, 11.7, 11.8.

2265
03:01:04,180 --> 03:01:11,320
These are all being funded from one zero, three, four, zero grants, as well as the

2266
03:01:12,220 --> 03:01:18,500
Chiefs item 11.10 funding from 10340 grant.

2267
03:01:18,820 --> 03:01:26,940
So could you help clarify that those as well, Sheriff, to satisfy the questions from the public please?

2268
03:01:30,560 --> 03:01:44,340
If I can, as I understand it is that the money is given to the county from the state and the

2269
03:01:44,340 --> 03:01:45,820
Does that answer your question?

2270
03:01:52,280 --> 03:01:57,280
And the end kind is met the same way as the end kind is all the same way that you mentioned for the other one.

2271
03:01:57,840 --> 03:02:00,240
Thank you, Sheriff.

2272
03:02:04,520 --> 03:02:05,020
Thank you, Commissioner.

2273
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:06,440
It is.

2274
03:02:06,440 --> 03:02:08,420
Is somebody speaking to you, Sheriff?

2275
03:02:08,780 --> 03:02:08,980
No.

2276
03:02:10,260 --> 03:02:11,080
Oh, you are.

2277
03:02:12,520 --> 03:02:13,000
No.

2278
03:02:13,520 --> 03:02:15,620
I see you're looking over to the left.

2279
03:02:16,460 --> 03:02:17,700
Are you looking on screen?

2280
03:02:17,940 --> 03:02:18,220
Yeah.

2281
03:02:19,700 --> 03:02:20,180
Okay.

2282
03:02:20,400 --> 03:02:21,240
Thank you.

2283
03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:25,700
Just anxiously awaiting your next question.

2284
03:02:27,440 --> 03:02:28,940
I'm satisfied, Chair.

2285
03:02:29,080 --> 03:02:29,440
Thank you.

2286
03:02:29,600 --> 03:02:30,340
Thank you.

2287
03:02:30,880 --> 03:02:31,040
I'd like to clarify.

2288
03:02:31,980 --> 03:02:32,240
That's all.

2289
03:02:32,380 --> 03:02:32,820
Thank you.

2290
03:02:33,000 --> 03:02:33,080
Thank you.

2291
03:02:33,420 --> 03:02:37,240
Sir, sir, I'd like to make a motion to approve all consent items as written.

2292
03:02:37,880 --> 03:02:37,960
That's good.

2293
03:02:37,960 --> 03:02:38,280
Perfect.

2294
03:02:38,420 --> 03:02:39,320
Motion and a second.

2295
03:02:39,520 --> 03:02:40,320
I'm going to call for the vote.

2296
03:02:42,080 --> 03:02:43,300
To Bores aye.

2297
03:02:44,560 --> 03:02:44,840
Oscar.

2298
03:02:44,840 --> 03:02:45,100
Aye.

2299
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:45,920
That's five zero.

2300
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:46,560
Thank you.

2301
03:02:46,560 --> 03:02:47,780
19, please.

2302
03:02:55,300 --> 03:02:59,440
Item 19 for possible action, discussion, and deliberation regarding

2303
03:02:59,440 --> 03:03:07,180
Proclamation number P-2026, that's 06 declaring September 2026,

2304
03:03:07,520 --> 03:03:09,360
service dog month in 9 County.

2305
03:03:10,540 --> 03:03:12,340
Thank you for that.

2306
03:03:12,700 --> 03:03:13,980
All right, who's presenting on this?

2307
03:03:14,400 --> 03:03:16,240
I thought, really, I thought.

2308
03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:18,200
All right, this is a public petitioner item.

2309
03:03:18,460 --> 03:03:20,880
If the petitioner is on the phone, they'll need to press star

2310
03:03:20,880 --> 03:03:26,420
to raise their hand to be unmuted. If they are unavailable, we can just proceed as pretty

2311
03:03:26,420 --> 03:03:27,220
self-explanatory.

2312
03:03:30,540 --> 03:03:33,740
Okay, let's open up public comment on this guy and see if there's anybody

2313
03:03:33,740 --> 03:03:34,640
that wants to speak.

2314
03:03:40,850 --> 03:03:46,130
19. All right closing public comment. Motion to approve is written.

2315
03:03:47,010 --> 03:03:51,930
Motion to seconds. Motion to seconds, all those in favor. All right. All right.

2316
03:03:51,930 --> 03:03:58,470
All right, five, five, zero. Thank you very much. All right, so we're going to do 20 and then we're

2317
03:03:59,890 --> 03:04:01,210
And Paul what?

2318
03:04:01,770 --> 03:04:02,290
No what?

2319
03:04:03,850 --> 03:04:04,530
Dude him after?

2320
03:04:05,510 --> 03:04:05,590
Okay.

2321
03:04:08,540 --> 03:04:08,960
Okay.

2322
03:04:09,860 --> 03:04:10,420
That's okay.

2323
03:04:12,980 --> 03:04:13,620
Let's...

2324
03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:14,420
Hold on sir.

2325
03:04:20,620 --> 03:04:20,780
Yeah.

2326
03:04:21,060 --> 03:04:21,440
Which one?

2327
03:04:23,280 --> 03:04:23,780
Which one?

2328
03:04:24,340 --> 03:04:25,340
All right. Let's break.

2329
03:04:25,460 --> 03:04:26,960
Let's be back at 2.30.

2330
03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:15,360
They'll be joining shortly.

2331
03:05:18,240 --> 03:05:23,140
Paul, don't be mad at me, but I have to bump you. I know.

2332
03:05:25,480 --> 03:05:26,220
I'm sorry.

2333
03:05:28,860 --> 03:05:36,680
We're doing nine. We have to do nine. Sure. You just leave it right there.

2334
03:05:47,330 --> 03:05:54,030
All right, commissioners up north or back. Lorina are you with us? I'm here. Thank you. May I do nine, please?

2335
03:05:55,710 --> 03:05:58,670
Or you do nine please.

2336
03:05:59,070 --> 03:05:59,670
Yes.

2337
03:06:00,010 --> 03:06:01,350
I have nine please.

2338
03:06:02,980 --> 03:06:03,800
I have nine.

2339
03:06:03,840 --> 03:06:04,640
Ten o'clock a.

2340
03:06:04,680 --> 03:06:06,420
And for possible action public hearing

2341
03:06:06,420 --> 03:06:09,120
Discussion and deliberation to a

2342
03:06:09,120 --> 03:06:10,540
Declare two four six one.

2343
03:06:10,760 --> 03:06:11,640
Self-mallowed Avenue.

2344
03:06:11,860 --> 03:06:12,220
Prompt Nevada.

2345
03:06:12,340 --> 03:06:13,220
A public nuisance.

2346
03:06:13,240 --> 03:06:15,900
Consisting of an unsafe unhealthful condition.

2347
03:06:16,480 --> 03:06:18,560
Which poses a public health and safety hazard.

2348
03:06:19,220 --> 03:06:20,900
Be it declared a public nuisance.

2349
03:06:20,900 --> 03:06:23,400
Establish a reasonable time for any

2350
03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:38,780
Now, Turner, who is the property owner to repair a bait or remove the public nuisance, see if the public nuisance is not evaded within the time period designated direct staff to utilize the abatement, procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous conditions.

2351
03:06:38,780 --> 03:06:44,700
D establish a funding source to pay for the abatement, E apply a special assessment against

2352
03:06:44,700 --> 03:06:48,520
the real property and the amount of the total cost of the abatement, assessors parcel

2353
03:06:48,520 --> 03:06:54,140
number zero four two four nine three zero four location two four six one self-mallard avenue

2354
03:06:54,140 --> 03:06:57,100
pertinent about a property owner and the alternator.

2355
03:07:04,260 --> 03:07:11,780
Hey Brian, D.A. Do we need, do we need to swear anyone in, do we need a script? Do we need

2356
03:07:12,560 --> 03:07:16,700
I gave you the scripts last time. I didn't make any new ones.

2357
03:07:16,720 --> 03:07:17,300
That's true.

2358
03:07:18,660 --> 03:07:21,260
Shall we open another item?

2359
03:07:21,280 --> 03:07:22,360
Another item while we do it.

2360
03:07:22,360 --> 03:07:24,620
And we'll find the script please.

2361
03:07:25,100 --> 03:07:27,560
Can we get a script please from staff for me that last time?

2362
03:07:27,600 --> 03:07:29,520
In fact, I'm going to turn this over to Bruce.

2363
03:07:32,260 --> 03:07:34,020
Chairman Jebore for the Rhodes.

2364
03:07:34,380 --> 03:07:35,540
Number 10 please.

2365
03:07:36,140 --> 03:07:36,920
We'll continue nine.

2366
03:07:37,100 --> 03:07:38,880
Item 10.

2367
03:07:38,880 --> 03:07:39,500
Item 10.

2368
03:07:39,500 --> 03:07:44,260
possible action discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the public

2369
03:07:44,260 --> 03:07:48,800
work director on general road maintenance, gravel road maintenance, asphalt patching,

2370
03:07:48,940 --> 03:07:52,240
wind, mowing and direction regarding public works projects.

2371
03:07:53,880 --> 03:07:54,520
Thank you, Lorena.

2372
03:07:55,840 --> 03:07:57,720
Is Bo or Tom?

2373
03:07:58,080 --> 03:07:59,700
Bo's with us, sir.

2374
03:08:00,780 --> 03:08:02,140
Well, please proceed.

2375
03:08:04,510 --> 03:08:05,490
Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

2376
03:08:06,170 --> 03:08:06,970
Bo got GOTT.

2377
03:08:08,110 --> 03:08:09,250
Assistant Public Works Director.

2378
03:08:10,610 --> 03:08:17,630
Okay, so 9 County Public Works has received 448 maintenance requests since the beginning of this year.

2379
03:08:18,130 --> 03:08:21,270
So far 287 of those have been completed.

2380
03:08:22,330 --> 03:08:26,590
57 were not relative leaving 104 unresolved.

2381
03:08:28,550 --> 03:08:35,010
Most requests continue to be for pot holes with the slide-up rise and mowing requests over the past month.

2382
03:08:35,010 --> 03:08:41,250
patching crews continue to be out daily, and the moors I've been focusing on areas around the schools,

2383
03:08:41,530 --> 03:08:44,650
they're the ditches for the students that are walking a school.

2384
03:08:49,540 --> 03:08:54,080
Last week, the Travel Crew completed just over five miles of scrub seal in Tonepaw,

2385
03:08:54,840 --> 03:09:00,540
which will complete all of the chip and scrub seals outside of the prump area for the year.

2386
03:09:00,840 --> 03:09:05,980
Over the next two weeks, the crew will finish up with the three and a half miles of

2387
03:09:05,980 --> 03:09:08,020
The ship road is left on the list for this year.

2388
03:09:08,520 --> 03:09:12,560
I'm bringing the total of roads completed and prompt at 23 models.

2389
03:09:14,080 --> 03:09:17,420
And for just over 32 miles throughout the county.

2390
03:09:18,080 --> 03:09:21,560
The crew will continue scrub ceiling some major asphalt roads and for ramp,

2391
03:09:22,040 --> 03:09:25,820
with some extensive work on sections of black, basin, Wilson,

2392
03:09:26,840 --> 03:09:30,120
Gamberd, East and West, and Hunny Circle,

2393
03:09:30,700 --> 03:09:32,640
Streets throughout the month of September.

2394
03:09:35,160 --> 03:09:40,980
Recently, outlying areas around Tone of Onbady have been hit with some flood activity.

2395
03:09:42,420 --> 03:09:47,320
Over the last month, crews will be working on repairs and gravel road maintenance to bring

2396
03:09:47,320 --> 03:09:49,300
the roads back up to normal status.

2397
03:09:52,610 --> 03:09:59,870
Just one more thing I want to go over regarding the addition of some batch funds.

2398
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,240
That we received.

2399
03:10:03,600 --> 03:10:25,180
We currently have spent $761,582.96, that's as up to day. There may be a few invoices I haven't been processed yet, leading us with 230,480,417 dollars in 10 cents left.

2400
03:10:27,720 --> 03:10:28,860
I'm open for any questions.

2401
03:10:31,660 --> 03:10:32,460
Thank you, Bob.

2402
03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:38,640
Do you wish us any questions for the system director before I open it up for public comment?

2403
03:10:39,540 --> 03:10:40,680
I have none, sir.

2404
03:10:41,080 --> 03:10:41,600
I have nothing.

2405
03:10:41,800 --> 03:10:42,440
Thank you.

2406
03:10:43,260 --> 03:10:43,860
Thank you.

2407
03:10:44,320 --> 03:10:44,620
Thank you.

2408
03:10:44,700 --> 03:10:46,360
Let me open this up for public comment.

2409
03:10:51,450 --> 03:10:53,030
Anybody on the phone, please, Sam?

2410
03:10:53,890 --> 03:10:54,210
Yes, sir.

2411
03:10:54,210 --> 03:10:55,190
We're calling it.

2412
03:10:55,430 --> 03:10:56,430
Item number 10.

2413
03:10:57,670 --> 03:10:57,910
Yes, sir.

2414
03:10:57,930 --> 03:10:58,830
The caller is unmuted.

2415
03:10:58,950 --> 03:11:00,590
Please speak and call your name for the record.

2416
03:11:00,590 --> 03:11:01,530
I

2417
03:11:05,150 --> 03:11:06,930
was calling on nine.

2418
03:11:09,210 --> 03:11:10,390
Thank you.

2419
03:11:11,170 --> 03:11:13,670
We will get back to nine in just a few minutes.

2420
03:11:14,870 --> 03:11:16,370
We're on number 10 right now.

2421
03:11:16,670 --> 03:11:17,810
I weighs in Rhodes commission.

2422
03:11:18,550 --> 03:11:20,070
Anybody else on the phone, please say?

2423
03:11:20,190 --> 03:11:21,910
We don't have anybody in chambers.

2424
03:11:23,230 --> 03:11:23,430
Yes, Chair.

2425
03:11:23,590 --> 03:11:24,450
Thank you.

2426
03:11:24,930 --> 03:11:25,170
Thank you.

2427
03:11:25,170 --> 03:11:25,890
It is unmuted.

2428
03:11:26,170 --> 03:11:27,510
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2429
03:11:30,640 --> 03:11:31,520
Yes, Amy Nelson.

2430
03:11:32,140 --> 03:11:32,660
Any else?

2431
03:11:33,180 --> 03:11:36,960
I'm glad you mentioned mowing where the students walk.

2432
03:11:36,960 --> 03:12:05,660
It came up in a conversation on Facebook last week, on Barney, kids walk from all the way up close to basin, down to Barney and prospector, to catch the bus, and those side weeds are really high, they're really bad, so maybe they can check out over there where these kids walk, so they're not walking in the street.

2433
03:12:05,660 --> 03:12:07,600
Thank you.

2434
03:12:08,890 --> 03:12:10,650
Thank you, Amy, for that.

2435
03:12:11,470 --> 03:12:12,030
That's very important.

2436
03:12:12,690 --> 03:12:14,370
Anybody else on the phone, please?

2437
03:12:15,330 --> 03:12:16,030
Yes, Chair.

2438
03:12:16,150 --> 03:12:17,070
The caller is unmuted.

2439
03:12:17,190 --> 03:12:18,890
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2440
03:12:23,240 --> 03:12:28,160
I can hear you, Michael.

2441
03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:30,140
Thank you.

2442
03:12:31,120 --> 03:12:31,480
Thank you.

2443
03:12:31,480 --> 03:12:31,520
Thank you.

2444
03:12:32,280 --> 03:12:33,720
Thank you.

2445
03:12:33,720 --> 03:12:36,320
Thank you.

2446
03:12:36,320 --> 03:12:45,620
We know when good it can't go up and beyond their pay wages and cover up or help alleviate

2447
03:12:45,620 --> 03:12:48,660
the strain from your negative mark.

2448
03:12:48,940 --> 03:12:52,000
So, the show a little appreciate it when we deal with this guy.

2449
03:12:52,180 --> 03:12:53,720
Thank you.

2450
03:12:53,920 --> 03:12:54,600
Thank you.

2451
03:12:55,800 --> 03:12:57,460
Anybody else on the phone, please?

2452
03:12:57,960 --> 03:12:58,600
No chair.

2453
03:13:00,200 --> 03:13:01,400
Thank you.

2454
03:13:01,900 --> 03:13:03,680
I'll close public comment at this time.

2455
03:13:03,680 --> 03:13:07,420
any other questions for the system director Bogotte?

2456
03:13:08,760 --> 03:13:10,300
I think for me, sir.

2457
03:13:10,480 --> 03:13:13,080
But I just want to thank you.

2458
03:13:13,300 --> 03:13:14,540
Go ahead, Commissioner Conic.

2459
03:13:14,640 --> 03:13:16,500
I was just going to say nothing here.

2460
03:13:16,680 --> 03:13:18,180
He looks too comfortable sitting there.

2461
03:13:18,720 --> 03:13:20,460
He's very comfortable, yeah.

2462
03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:22,180
They're comfortable seats.

2463
03:13:23,540 --> 03:13:23,720
Chair?

2464
03:13:23,900 --> 03:13:25,660
Well, I just want to thank you again.

2465
03:13:25,880 --> 03:13:26,780
Go ahead, Commissioner.

2466
03:13:27,340 --> 03:13:30,920
We are slow with our getting back to you with that lag,

2467
03:13:30,960 --> 03:13:31,840
aren't we, Chair?

2468
03:13:31,960 --> 03:13:32,600
Thank you.

2469
03:13:32,600 --> 03:13:34,860
It is, they go for the second leg.

2470
03:13:35,320 --> 03:13:36,720
You're so used to it.

2471
03:13:36,920 --> 03:13:39,680
I just wanted to say thank you for moving forward

2472
03:13:39,680 --> 03:13:41,280
with spending the million dollars

2473
03:13:41,280 --> 03:13:44,560
and having a little over $238,000 left.

2474
03:13:45,140 --> 03:13:46,960
I'm sure by the next month, that'll be all gone.

2475
03:13:47,220 --> 03:13:48,240
Thank you very much.

2476
03:13:48,660 --> 03:13:49,060
Thank you, Chair.

2477
03:13:50,990 --> 03:13:51,630
Thank you.

2478
03:13:51,630 --> 03:13:52,790
Thank you, Commissioner Bain.

2479
03:13:52,970 --> 03:13:53,510
Did you have anything?

2480
03:13:54,770 --> 03:13:57,310
So, Bob, speaking of which, of course,

2481
03:13:57,850 --> 03:13:59,750
we want you to utilize this money

2482
03:13:59,750 --> 03:14:01,570
in the most efficient way possible.

2483
03:14:01,570 --> 03:14:10,210
So there's, there's the tangible, the visual for the people as they're driving over what they once knew as pod holes, etc.

2484
03:14:10,650 --> 03:14:15,570
As you say, the majority of calls come in and concerns are over pod holes.

2485
03:14:16,270 --> 03:14:18,650
So throughout the county, I'm sure that it is.

2486
03:14:18,850 --> 03:14:23,410
I know that it's appreciative and also I want to thank you and your team.

2487
03:14:23,410 --> 03:14:31,110
you were up here during the scrub and chip seal program for many of the streets here in Tone

2488
03:14:31,110 --> 03:14:42,630
upon the area and thank you and the team again because it's very, very noticeable right

2489
03:14:42,630 --> 03:14:50,710
and it's delightful to an pleasure to finally drive on areas that people try to avoid

2490
03:14:50,710 --> 03:14:56,030
go to different side streets, right? So you know what I'm trying to thank you for being hands-on

2491
03:14:56,030 --> 03:14:59,350
and being up here during that project. I'm you and your team.

2492
03:15:01,070 --> 03:15:02,670
All right. Thank you.

2493
03:15:05,370 --> 03:15:20,730
And next time, hopefully you'll have another presentation, PowerPoint for us. I know that the public really enjoyed that because they were able to actually see the different areas of the county that we're being addressed by you and your team.

2494
03:15:21,610 --> 03:15:25,490
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I was really struggling to come up with some material over a month.

2495
03:15:25,490 --> 03:15:31,750
Um, I think I could probably make it work every, like, quarterly, come up with the presentation.

2496
03:15:32,710 --> 03:15:37,090
Um, you know, road work is pretty extensive and, uh, you know, what she get done at a

2497
03:15:37,090 --> 03:15:41,870
month doesn't look really good on a presentation and not many people are going to notice it.

2498
03:15:41,970 --> 03:15:46,650
It's just very time consuming, um, and also with being out of town and, and a ton of

2499
03:15:46,650 --> 03:15:50,070
Paul last year has made a little difficult for me to put anything together.

2500
03:15:50,070 --> 03:15:59,670
So, I understand it not to waste your time, my bow, we want it to be meaningful, doesn't have to be redundant, we don't want it to be redundant.

2501
03:16:00,710 --> 03:16:09,170
So, just a verbal report and every quarter, I think that would be acceptable to do a PowerPoint, a presentation, a video presentation, whatever you're going to put together.

2502
03:16:10,710 --> 03:16:11,730
Okay, thank you for understanding.

2503
03:16:11,970 --> 03:16:12,530
Thank you.

2504
03:16:12,550 --> 03:16:15,090
I'll go back to my comfortable spot down there.

2505
03:16:15,690 --> 03:16:18,730
Obviously, I don't like public speaking so much more complicated and then the seat.

2506
03:16:19,410 --> 03:16:26,930
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're doing a good job. Thank you, Director. And I'll turn this back over to the BLCC chair.

2507
03:16:27,510 --> 03:16:28,010
Well, I'm going to ask you.

2508
03:16:28,730 --> 03:16:33,830
Thank you. Thank you very much, Chair. And thank you, Bo, and your your guys' team as well.

2509
03:16:34,490 --> 03:16:36,170
All right. Let's see. What are we going to do now?

2510
03:16:39,010 --> 03:16:39,890
Let's do.

2511
03:16:42,430 --> 03:16:42,790
Okay.

2512
03:16:43,830 --> 03:16:44,710
Nine again.

2513
03:16:47,870 --> 03:16:50,930
Do commissioners in Tonopal have the script for nine.

2514
03:16:52,560 --> 03:16:56,900
If you throw it, Commissioner Strickland, I'll try to catch it from the screen.

2515
03:16:57,120 --> 03:17:01,740
I told you I would appreciate your view today with something.

2516
03:17:02,100 --> 03:17:03,160
That's a good one.

2517
03:17:03,180 --> 03:17:03,600
I

2518
03:17:05,780 --> 03:17:07,740
always miss his jokes when he's not here.

2519
03:17:07,860 --> 03:17:08,260
I know.

2520
03:17:08,880 --> 03:17:09,640
I love this.

2521
03:17:09,900 --> 03:17:10,460
All right.

2522
03:17:10,680 --> 03:17:13,200
So once we know they have their scripts, we can move on with number nine.

2523
03:17:17,910 --> 03:17:18,750
It's already been read.

2524
03:17:19,190 --> 03:17:19,470
Okay.

2525
03:17:21,850 --> 03:17:22,650
He's absolutely right.

2526
03:17:22,770 --> 03:17:23,410
It's already been read.

2527
03:17:23,630 --> 03:17:23,830
Okay.

2528
03:17:24,110 --> 03:17:25,310
Here we are back on number nine.

2529
03:17:25,330 --> 03:17:29,330
This is a hearing to show cause to determine if a nuisance exists on property

2530
03:17:29,330 --> 03:17:32,790
located at 2461 South Mallard Avenue,

2531
03:17:33,430 --> 03:17:34,790
for Rump Nevada,

2532
03:17:34,970 --> 03:17:39,490
pursuant tonight county code 17.04.860.

2533
03:17:40,690 --> 03:17:42,390
Well, the representatives of the Planning Department,

2534
03:17:43,070 --> 03:17:44,970
please state your full names for the record.

2535
03:17:50,580 --> 03:17:52,940
Rob, hi, H-I-G-H-T.

2536
03:17:54,240 --> 03:17:57,200
So, last sendable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L.

2537
03:17:57,440 --> 03:17:58,100
Thank you for that.

2538
03:17:58,580 --> 03:18:01,580
Have you reviewed the backup documentation submitted

2539
03:18:01,580 --> 03:18:02,880
for this agenda item?

2540
03:18:04,420 --> 03:18:05,340
Yes?

2541
03:18:06,500 --> 03:18:11,440
Is the documentation true and accurate documentation of the notices provided to the owner

2542
03:18:11,440 --> 03:18:15,480
and accurately depict the condition of the subject property?

2543
03:18:16,840 --> 03:18:20,740
The backup isn't completely up to date.

2544
03:18:21,660 --> 03:18:22,820
The RVs are gone.

2545
03:18:23,400 --> 03:18:27,420
They're still some junk and debris remaining.

2546
03:18:28,060 --> 03:18:30,640
Including a couch, if you want one.

2547
03:18:31,420 --> 03:18:32,440
Well, is it leather?

2548
03:18:32,440 --> 03:18:40,400
Now, go, go, may need that couch in the back.

2549
03:18:43,090 --> 03:18:47,290
Please summarize the health and safety concerns you observed regarding this property.

2550
03:18:47,870 --> 03:18:48,350
Thank you, Swena.

2551
03:18:50,350 --> 03:18:58,930
There's enough junk and debris that it would probably be a place where pests could be attracted to.

2552
03:18:58,930 --> 03:19:04,870
I think that would be the main health and safety issue with that property at this time.

2553
03:19:06,730 --> 03:19:08,510
Are there any questions from any board member?

2554
03:19:11,940 --> 03:19:12,820
Yes, sir.

2555
03:19:13,180 --> 03:19:14,360
Go ahead, sir.

2556
03:19:15,880 --> 03:19:17,160
Thank you.

2557
03:19:17,420 --> 03:19:17,860
Rob, sir.

2558
03:19:17,860 --> 03:19:22,980
Thank you for being here today and giving us that update that's important.

2559
03:19:23,560 --> 03:19:25,420
I have some questions, please.

2560
03:19:29,960 --> 03:19:34,720
I would like to ask where does the granddaughter reside, please?

2561
03:19:36,460 --> 03:19:38,100
I believe she resides in Michigan.

2562
03:19:40,800 --> 03:19:41,500
Thank you.

2563
03:19:42,540 --> 03:19:45,140
And reviewing and reviewing the backup,

2564
03:19:46,060 --> 03:19:49,540
it shows that the owner misses Turner,

2565
03:19:49,980 --> 03:19:52,080
unfortunately passed away sometime in July,

2566
03:19:52,080 --> 03:19:57,620
twenty twenty six is that right. That is correct. Yes, okay. So.

2567
03:20:00,590 --> 03:20:08,230
So, again, looking at some of these photos, it's a fence that's not completely fence, but it's fence property.

2568
03:20:10,910 --> 03:20:19,130
As you know, that you've all done your due diligence, you've posted, you've reposted, you've posted again.

2569
03:20:20,010 --> 03:20:26,870
Okay, where Mrs. Turner has passed away, just last month.

2570
03:20:26,870 --> 03:20:30,190
Okay, let's, let's, let's be realistic.

2571
03:20:30,650 --> 03:20:34,910
Karen, it's been just one month, I don't think that it's fair

2572
03:20:34,910 --> 03:20:40,050
that the air to the property, the granddaughter,

2573
03:20:40,690 --> 03:20:43,370
residing in Michigan, or if she was in California,

2574
03:20:43,650 --> 03:20:45,430
or even here in the state of Nevada,

2575
03:20:46,910 --> 03:20:50,850
that a reasonable time frame is what's been recommended

2576
03:20:50,850 --> 03:20:53,650
as far as September 14, 2026.

2577
03:20:54,350 --> 03:21:06,690
I just wanted that on the record please, and for you to take that into consideration as we also consider through public common and the other comments from the commissioners.

2578
03:21:06,690 --> 03:21:15,570
Yeah, it's been, the abatement letters were sent before she passed away, so otherwise we might have acted differently.

2579
03:21:17,190 --> 03:21:27,710
No, I'm not, I'm not criticizing, I'm not criticizing your rug or Celeste or the department of who's been involved.

2580
03:21:28,770 --> 03:21:42,750
You had no idea that the owner of the property was going to, or was ill, or was even going to be departing this world just so soon.

2581
03:21:44,010 --> 03:21:55,570
But with this as part of the information and evidence, as this being a nuisance, I'm going to say and stand behind saying that it's totally unfair,

2582
03:21:55,570 --> 03:22:13,350
that an unreasonable to have here is a recommendation of September 14th, 2026, according to our policy with this hearing as a requirement to either deem it or not deem it in a new sense.

2583
03:22:14,210 --> 03:22:16,050
Again, for the record.

2584
03:22:19,700 --> 03:22:21,720
Mr. Chairman, I have a few questions.

2585
03:22:25,740 --> 03:22:29,120
I don't know who wrote this, so I'll be delicate.

2586
03:22:29,780 --> 03:22:32,600
Granddad, there's a note of, as D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth, D to Pondeth,

2587
03:22:32,600 --> 03:22:33,420
but it's not recorded.

2588
03:22:34,320 --> 03:22:40,340
I don't know the Nevada law, such that it's a condition precedent to the execution of D to Pondeth,

2589
03:22:40,520 --> 03:22:41,020
to be recorded.

2590
03:22:41,120 --> 03:22:43,760
Doesn't it have to be recorded prior to being executed?

2591
03:22:45,680 --> 03:22:47,000
I don't think it has to be recorded.

2592
03:22:47,720 --> 03:22:49,900
I think that's one of the, I don't think you do, I'm sorry.

2593
03:22:50,480 --> 03:22:52,900
I believe that's what I got to see in property law,

2594
03:22:52,900 --> 03:22:58,140
but I do believe that it has to be executed prior to the death

2595
03:22:58,140 --> 03:22:59,280
or it's not valid.

2596
03:23:00,080 --> 03:23:01,140
So I don't, is that correct?

2597
03:23:01,740 --> 03:23:02,460
So that is correct.

2598
03:23:02,820 --> 03:23:03,680
So that is irrelevant.

2599
03:23:03,760 --> 03:23:05,440
So this person does not own this property.

2600
03:23:06,740 --> 03:23:08,440
That is what we think also.

2601
03:23:09,480 --> 03:23:11,320
OK, so we can set that aside.

2602
03:23:11,420 --> 03:23:12,240
What's this is inaccurate?

2603
03:23:12,500 --> 03:23:13,100
We can set that aside.

2604
03:23:13,140 --> 03:23:14,940
This person you're talking to is on property.

2605
03:23:15,460 --> 03:23:17,620
So has it probably been opened, do we know?

2606
03:23:19,920 --> 03:23:22,600
I believe Susan's last conversation

2607
03:23:22,600 --> 03:23:26,680
with the niece and the brother that it it was they were going to be starting the process.

2608
03:23:27,880 --> 03:23:31,380
You're going to be starting the process. Was this already debated when it was a house

2609
03:23:31,380 --> 03:23:36,820
and burned down and there was some kind of problems there in the past? It was a pretty

2610
03:23:36,820 --> 03:23:42,340
sense and I do believe it was a house fire yes and then. So it's already been debated. It's already been

2611
03:23:42,340 --> 03:23:48,220
on fire. Garrett is down here we go again and this whoever he is coming in there. So this isn't as

2612
03:23:48,220 --> 03:23:53,380
someone who doesn't own the property now is saying they want the property let's say

2613
03:23:53,380 --> 03:23:57,680
have a time machine if so I like to get in and undo some of the things I've done

2614
03:23:57,680 --> 03:24:08,660
in my life this does not she does not own it there is a brother of the deceased that

2615
03:24:09,820 --> 03:24:15,700
everything would fall to that he is now the one who is willing to take responsibility

2616
03:24:15,700 --> 03:24:22,500
Well, he doesn't have a lead. He has a bigger stance than what he was I do for the project unless the probates open the judge makes that decision not us

2617
03:24:22,500 --> 03:24:29,620
Me not the DA. So that's just not relevant the problem here is that you have a pattern of abuse where people have been coming on the property

2618
03:24:29,620 --> 03:24:31,220
I went out there with

2619
03:24:32,560 --> 03:24:37,740
Tenaclons are and Sergeant Augustine same thing. Oh, we own the property. Oh, we own the property

2620
03:24:37,740 --> 03:24:43,760
And they've been saying I was out there five times at least talking to people or three to five times talking to others

2621
03:24:43,760 --> 03:24:46,680
the pattern of people coming in there, telling deputies,

2622
03:24:46,820 --> 03:24:48,140
we own the place, say, get out of here,

2623
03:24:48,300 --> 03:24:50,580
we own the place, and then here come RVs,

2624
03:24:50,660 --> 03:24:51,900
and then they're burning campfires,

2625
03:24:52,520 --> 03:24:54,900
and one time there are sheriff's deputies showing up

2626
03:24:54,900 --> 03:24:57,460
with, there's, I did not pull the guy forgot to do,

2627
03:24:57,560 --> 03:24:59,360
so I was gonna ask where you just, I didn't do this.

2628
03:24:59,420 --> 03:24:59,960
There was all,

2629
03:25:00,820 --> 03:25:29,020
I know there's nine one calls, there are quite a few nine one calls. I'm sure there's somebody on the phone who will speak to that, so I won't do that. But this is not a surprise situation. Everyone associate with this property and apparently most people associate with the claim ownership of it, I might as well claim ownership of it myself. And so everyone is aware. There's definitely not a notice. We don't have a due process problem here because seems that everyone in town knows what's going on with this property, including us.

2630
03:25:29,020 --> 03:25:34,340
So I have to just do this for the people who live on that street I already feel bad because you know

2631
03:25:34,340 --> 03:25:38,220
There's some flooding stuff going on and I always were pretty feel really bad about not being able to fix that

2632
03:25:38,220 --> 03:25:45,280
But maybe I would I wouldn't mind hearing from you know testimony and as far as public comment

2633
03:25:45,280 --> 03:25:52,880
If we can do that Mr. Chairman sometime soon. Thank you. We will definitely do that commissioner. It's on our list here

2634
03:25:56,390 --> 03:25:56,830
Okay

2635
03:25:58,210 --> 03:26:01,230
If the property owners are present, please come forward.

2636
03:26:04,430 --> 03:26:05,690
Is there anyone on the phone, Sam?

2637
03:26:06,670 --> 03:26:08,590
It would be very long, doesn't it?

2638
03:26:08,810 --> 03:26:10,550
I do have hands raised.

2639
03:26:11,290 --> 03:26:12,290
The caller is unmuted.

2640
03:26:12,570 --> 03:26:14,050
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2641
03:26:17,700 --> 03:26:22,260
Lisa Staudelman, STA, KTEL, in the end.

2642
03:26:22,860 --> 03:26:26,580
I'm a neighbor of this property and kind of talking for all the neighbors here.

2643
03:26:26,580 --> 03:26:34,280
I do have to correct you because Annie Turner died in April of 2024 and was taken from

2644
03:26:34,280 --> 03:26:38,500
because she had dementia.

2645
03:26:39,880 --> 03:26:44,600
So the house was burned down in November of 2024.

2646
03:26:45,200 --> 03:26:48,580
So, ma'am, I am sorry, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.

2647
03:26:48,580 --> 03:26:53,600
Chair, I believe that this is public comment, this is not the owner of the property,

2648
03:26:54,000 --> 03:26:54,320
this is correct.

2649
03:26:54,320 --> 03:26:58,800
President, so I think that we need to ask her to call back if you

2650
03:26:58,800 --> 03:27:01,960
can. If you hold tight, man, we will get right back to you, okay?

2651
03:27:06,750 --> 03:27:08,410
There's nobody. There is no.

2652
03:27:11,080 --> 03:27:15,740
So the death date, we're working on the family, telling us, you know, when

2653
03:27:15,740 --> 03:27:21,960
sooner passed. So this is two, two plus years. Okay. Any questions from any

2654
03:27:21,960 --> 03:27:22,560
of the board?

2655
03:27:25,000 --> 03:27:27,600
Let's, I've got one question.

2656
03:27:28,500 --> 03:27:32,620
Is the public administrator involved in this property?

2657
03:27:32,800 --> 03:27:37,420
Susan did contact Ginger and she is not to receive this property.

2658
03:27:39,410 --> 03:27:41,050
Okay, so we're going to continue on here.

2659
03:27:41,790 --> 03:27:46,010
President and I county code 17.040860k2.

2660
03:27:46,790 --> 03:27:50,870
If the property owner is failed to appear, the commissioner may proceed with the hearing and take any

2661
03:27:50,870 --> 03:27:52,790
enforcement action deemed appropriate.

2662
03:27:53,350 --> 03:27:57,010
Now we're going to open public comment and see what we have for that.

2663
03:27:57,010 --> 03:27:59,810
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

2664
03:28:02,380 --> 03:28:03,600
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

2665
03:28:03,960 --> 03:28:05,400
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2666
03:28:08,820 --> 03:28:13,900
Okay, Lisa Salomon, S-P-A-T-T-E-L-M-A-N.

2667
03:28:14,180 --> 03:28:17,260
I am a neighbor, a new Annie Turner.

2668
03:28:17,800 --> 03:28:23,240
She was moved away in 2023, I believe, or 22.

2669
03:28:23,880 --> 03:28:30,180
She passed away in April of 2004 and people moved into that home in November

2670
03:28:30,180 --> 03:28:34,220
and burn it down with the mess lab in November of 2024.

2671
03:28:35,240 --> 03:28:39,360
In April of this year, those same people came back

2672
03:28:39,360 --> 03:28:42,120
and opened a homeless encampments.

2673
03:28:43,060 --> 03:28:50,060
And by all vision, it is a drug dealing operation,

2674
03:28:50,740 --> 03:28:53,940
also, the traffic, we believe that coming in and out,

2675
03:28:53,960 --> 03:28:56,920
all hours in and out quick,

2676
03:28:57,980 --> 03:29:07,400
Even though they removed the RV and the fifth wheel, like the folks said, there's so much trash there and everything, it's ridiculous.

2677
03:29:08,220 --> 03:29:16,160
And they're still dropping off people a few blocks away, walking in in the middle of the night, walking out. We all have cameras on our homes.

2678
03:29:16,440 --> 03:29:20,060
So we all know this is going on. That's why there's been 911 calls.

2679
03:29:20,060 --> 03:29:23,900
So, we still believe there's drugs going on there.

2680
03:29:24,520 --> 03:29:29,740
Been terrible for a neighborhood or property values and since the neighbor is in any

2681
03:29:29,740 --> 03:29:37,000
to cease, I couldn't get ahold of anybody except her son through messenger and he never

2682
03:29:37,000 --> 03:29:41,160
after he, I told him, he never responded back to me.

2683
03:29:41,780 --> 03:29:46,760
Now the police and the county, I believe, have done everything they can and been very, very

2684
03:29:46,760 --> 03:29:48,640
helpful to all of us.

2685
03:29:48,640 --> 03:29:53,820
I think this property should be evaded immediately because I don't want these people coming

2686
03:29:53,820 --> 03:29:55,100
back a third time.

2687
03:29:55,480 --> 03:29:56,740
Notice this has been posted.

2688
03:29:56,880 --> 03:29:59,960
The sense is not complete and we'd like it complete.

2689
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:14,720
So, nobody can go back into that property because her family didn't Chicago. And they're not involved at all. Never were when she was here either. Except her grandson, who I think promoted all this action.

2690
03:30:15,880 --> 03:30:24,760
But notices have been posted, they give in another two weeks after the last meeting, and we just, like, thank you for your concern.

2691
03:30:25,300 --> 03:30:29,320
Yep, thank you very much for that. That was very informative. Come on down.

2692
03:30:30,320 --> 03:30:30,420
Susie.

2693
03:30:33,360 --> 03:30:35,240
Susie here. It's H-E-R-T-Z.

2694
03:30:35,980 --> 03:30:42,300
I would think that it's pretty easy to determine when the owner of the property died.

2695
03:30:42,600 --> 03:30:43,540
It's public record.

2696
03:30:43,540 --> 03:30:46,560
So how come we don't have that information here today?

2697
03:30:47,460 --> 03:30:52,160
Why are we looking at that whole situation if that's a relevant issue?

2698
03:30:52,920 --> 03:30:55,620
That should have been researched and determined.

2699
03:30:56,420 --> 03:31:05,520
You have here say from neighbors and then what Celeste was saying is maybe from the granddaughter we think we know this.

2700
03:31:05,900 --> 03:31:07,320
But that's public record.

2701
03:31:08,140 --> 03:31:10,220
So we need to get our act together.

2702
03:31:10,880 --> 03:31:11,380
Thank you.

2703
03:31:11,380 --> 03:31:13,120
Thank you, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

2704
03:31:14,740 --> 03:31:15,300
Yes, Chair.

2705
03:31:15,380 --> 03:31:16,280
The caller is unmuted.

2706
03:31:16,680 --> 03:31:18,320
Please, speak in the spelling or name for the record.

2707
03:31:20,680 --> 03:31:21,180
Hello, Commissioner.

2708
03:31:35,150 --> 03:31:38,010
Once again, it goes back to notice.

2709
03:31:38,690 --> 03:31:42,590
You know, the main property notice not to you.

2710
03:31:43,050 --> 03:31:46,710
You know, if you want to take an act and take an act and then fill it against this date,

2711
03:31:46,790 --> 03:31:51,230
whether that's not as far in the state and that, but the new process has

2712
03:31:53,890 --> 03:31:54,110
to

2713
03:31:54,110 --> 03:31:54,950
marry around here

2714
03:31:58,050 --> 03:31:59,690
to proceed with this amendment.

2715
03:32:11,300 --> 03:32:12,820
Thank you, Sam, do we have anybody else, please?

2716
03:32:15,160 --> 03:32:15,540
Yes, Chair.

2717
03:32:15,540 --> 03:32:16,580
And I'd like to thank all of our colleagues on muted.

2718
03:32:16,900 --> 03:32:18,580
Please speak in the following name for the record.

2719
03:32:21,370 --> 03:32:22,170
Yeah, saying me Nelson.

2720
03:32:22,870 --> 03:32:23,290
Any else?

2721
03:32:24,110 --> 03:32:26,410
I'm glad the neighbor called in.

2722
03:32:26,870 --> 03:32:29,350
And I'm explaining to you what's been going on.

2723
03:32:29,470 --> 03:32:30,990
I've had a couple of people.

2724
03:32:31,210 --> 03:32:31,910
Talk to me.

2725
03:32:32,730 --> 03:32:35,030
And they're really in favor of the abatement.

2726
03:32:35,630 --> 03:32:36,630
And like she said,

2727
03:32:37,370 --> 03:32:38,890
It's been a blight in the neighborhood.

2728
03:32:39,730 --> 03:32:40,890
And actually kind of dangerous.

2729
03:32:41,790 --> 03:32:44,530
For the kinds of people that are attracted there.

2730
03:32:44,530 --> 03:32:46,630
But that's my true sense. Thank you very much.

2731
03:32:48,590 --> 03:32:49,330
Thanks, Amy.

2732
03:32:49,830 --> 03:32:50,830
I'm downpulled.

2733
03:32:51,310 --> 03:32:52,350
I'm dying off here.

2734
03:32:53,730 --> 03:32:54,370
All right.

2735
03:32:54,630 --> 03:32:54,750
Yeah.

2736
03:32:54,930 --> 03:32:55,670
I need some water.

2737
03:32:56,370 --> 03:32:58,150
I always tell my boy drinks some water.

2738
03:33:01,530 --> 03:33:07,190
I'd like to say that if due processes brought up multiple times here, we could all consider maybe.

2739
03:33:08,090 --> 03:33:10,290
Paul Lemus, LEM, US.

2740
03:33:10,830 --> 03:33:14,170
If due processes brought up multiple times by the community, you know,

2741
03:33:14,170 --> 03:33:18,550
the problem, one of the inconsistencies with the International Property Maintenance Code, and

2742
03:33:18,550 --> 03:33:23,390
why it was repealed from law here in Night County, was due to the fact that there was

2743
03:33:23,390 --> 03:33:25,290
no proper due process there.

2744
03:33:25,730 --> 03:33:30,430
And so what you can do, though, is you could maybe form an ad hoc committee would be a suggestion,

2745
03:33:31,050 --> 03:33:35,910
and then have a committee that does the appeals, the proper appeals, maybe even you could

2746
03:33:35,910 --> 03:33:37,330
label OMS Budsmen.

2747
03:33:37,390 --> 03:33:41,950
I know Mr. Wagner's doing a good job, but he's got so much to do, maybe you could get

2748
03:33:41,950 --> 03:33:46,670
position and ad hoc committee, just a possibility, and then add that too. So when you're

2749
03:33:46,670 --> 03:33:51,530
giving these people, these leans, they still have one chance to appeal it before they lose

2750
03:33:51,530 --> 03:33:55,950
it all the way. And that way, you've not only done due process by all your proper notifications,

2751
03:33:56,350 --> 03:34:00,890
but you followed through by even giving them a second step to retain or regain their property back.

2752
03:34:01,070 --> 03:34:04,770
Just a suggestion. Thank you for that, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

2753
03:34:08,130 --> 03:34:11,290
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2754
03:34:13,860 --> 03:34:17,860
Bruce Johnson, J.O.H. and S.O.A.N. and now let me give you my opinion.

2755
03:34:20,500 --> 03:34:22,420
Clean the property off.

2756
03:34:22,820 --> 03:34:26,840
Remove the people, that's the benefit of the benefit of the people.

2757
03:34:27,120 --> 03:34:31,220
If you remove the vagrants, it seems to have gone in there and squatted.

2758
03:34:32,240 --> 03:34:33,960
You have every authority to dwell.

2759
03:34:35,120 --> 03:34:41,600
As far as taking their process without the due process of law, you don't have any authority to do that.

2760
03:34:41,600 --> 03:34:45,520
because we're talking about it to see this person here that I can't defend themselves.

2761
03:34:47,160 --> 03:34:53,040
So you need to allow that process to work itself out through the state of the COVID and

2762
03:34:53,680 --> 03:34:59,960
the administrator. But you guys do have authority to go deal with the crackheads that have

2763
03:35:14,590 --> 03:35:17,610
Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. Anybody else in the phone was?

2764
03:35:18,450 --> 03:35:25,010
Yes. Chair, I think it might be a repeat to caller. They're unmuted. Please speak its value for the record.

2765
03:35:25,010 --> 03:35:25,870
My

2766
03:35:28,650 --> 03:35:35,450
name's Darrell Young, I owe you in G. I'm a neighbor and a friend of Anna, Anna Turner,

2767
03:35:35,710 --> 03:35:44,550
and I have her obituary in front of me right now. She passed away on April 11, 2024. Shortly after

2768
03:35:44,550 --> 03:35:51,410
that, her grandson moved all his drug buddy friends into the house, and they were the ones

2769
03:35:51,410 --> 03:35:56,490
that burned the house down, and I filed the original complaint against the house and you guys

2770
03:35:56,490 --> 03:36:02,230
and clean the property, and then they turned around and came back in with all these trailers

2771
03:36:02,230 --> 03:36:04,910
and RVs and all this junk and it was the same people.

2772
03:36:05,350 --> 03:36:10,130
So this has been going on for four years, four years, and I've been going on.

2773
03:36:10,430 --> 03:36:13,970
So it's time to clean this place up, get these people out and fence it off.

2774
03:36:14,350 --> 03:36:15,310
It's just starting our neighborhood.

2775
03:36:18,070 --> 03:36:19,110
Thank you very much, sir.

2776
03:36:19,410 --> 03:36:20,090
I don't disagree.

2777
03:36:20,330 --> 03:36:21,150
Sam anybody else, please.

2778
03:36:21,490 --> 03:36:22,370
Thank you.

2779
03:36:22,510 --> 03:36:22,870
No chair.

2780
03:36:23,470 --> 03:36:23,690
All right.

2781
03:36:23,710 --> 03:36:24,870
We're going to close public comment.

2782
03:36:24,870 --> 03:36:29,130
Mr. Chairman, just follow up a question from the officers

2783
03:36:29,130 --> 03:36:30,590
of the county.

2784
03:36:31,390 --> 03:36:31,790
Sure.

2785
03:36:32,430 --> 03:36:32,830
Is that acceptable?

2786
03:36:33,110 --> 03:36:33,590
No, yeah.

2787
03:36:34,590 --> 03:36:36,710
I just have, so my question is, I just want to make sure

2788
03:36:36,710 --> 03:36:37,930
that we get this right.

2789
03:36:39,370 --> 03:36:40,590
So when you're tweeting the granddaughters

2790
03:36:40,590 --> 03:36:42,770
an order as dead of deed of death, deed of property,

2791
03:36:43,650 --> 03:36:46,530
is that just all orally verbally communicated?

2792
03:36:48,490 --> 03:36:50,430
How did you, why did you write that?

2793
03:36:51,890 --> 03:36:54,410
Susan did have a phone conversation, and I'm sorry.

2794
03:36:54,410 --> 03:37:04,190
she's not here. She did have a phone conversation with the granddaughter, and I believe the granddaughter did send her a copy of that over and that's when Susan realized it, you know, it hasn't been recorded.

2795
03:37:05,290 --> 03:37:05,730
Okay.

2796
03:37:05,930 --> 03:37:22,390
But was it still unrecorded? That person is still at the owner now. That would be sitting somewhere, not being posted. So that's entirely possible. My question is, did someone admit to it not being recorded in time or was that something that we came to the conclusion of?

2797
03:37:22,390 --> 03:37:28,190
The granddaughter said that she did not know that it needed to be recorded before she passed away.

2798
03:37:29,430 --> 03:37:33,230
Okay, so the DA's not here, but he has said, and I don't know if it was on the record that you can look it up.

2799
03:37:33,350 --> 03:37:33,930
It's probably there.

2800
03:37:34,030 --> 03:37:34,870
I know in California it is.

2801
03:37:34,930 --> 03:37:35,670
I don't know about Nevada.

2802
03:37:35,970 --> 03:37:42,070
That was a really similar has to be recorded prior to death, obviously, because it's a special thing.

2803
03:37:43,030 --> 03:37:49,910
One of the points that I just want to make is in the event that this is a person that was taken to some kind of care.

2804
03:37:49,910 --> 03:37:54,310
there will likely be a big bill for that care.

2805
03:37:54,750 --> 03:38:00,250
And so anybody opening Crow Bay will likely not recover the price

2806
03:38:00,250 --> 03:38:05,550
in the cost of this and if they're asked to pay back all of the care fees,

2807
03:38:05,550 --> 03:38:06,810
which could be 200,000.

2808
03:38:06,890 --> 03:38:09,110
And my mother died after being a nursing over two years,

2809
03:38:09,170 --> 03:38:10,430
it was like three and some thousand dollars.

2810
03:38:11,450 --> 03:38:12,690
So that's how that works.

2811
03:38:13,090 --> 03:38:18,310
So I don't know that it might fears that no one will open Crow Bay for this.

2812
03:38:19,570 --> 03:38:26,010
As far as, you know, someone said that they looked and they have an obituary, and I don't doubt that.

2813
03:38:26,550 --> 03:38:32,270
I had a family member in Cook County, the Illinois, the same place that we thought was dead.

2814
03:38:32,370 --> 03:38:36,210
I called my uncle who was assistant chief police somewhere, and he couldn't figure it out.

2815
03:38:36,430 --> 03:38:37,270
I don't know how I couldn't figure it out.

2816
03:38:37,450 --> 03:38:41,370
But he didn't even know as assistant chief police in Illinois, the Chicago suburb.

2817
03:38:41,990 --> 03:38:44,470
There's no button you can press to find out if you were dead.

2818
03:38:44,470 --> 03:38:49,010
Cook County is notorious. I have gotten records from Cook County. It's not fun. It's notorious.

2819
03:38:49,870 --> 03:38:55,070
Lee hard to get records from. I was born there. So, um, so my concerns if we don't do anything.

2820
03:38:55,730 --> 03:38:59,370
It could never open pro of a no one could ever do anything. It would just continue in the state.

2821
03:38:59,510 --> 03:39:01,670
It's been sounding like for about two plus years.

2822
03:39:02,590 --> 03:39:06,410
I would really like to make a motion to give these people some relief. I feel very bad personally.

2823
03:39:06,670 --> 03:39:09,490
And, but I'll wait until they appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2824
03:39:09,550 --> 03:39:10,370
Mr. Chair.

2825
03:39:10,770 --> 03:39:11,610
Go ahead, sir.

2826
03:39:11,610 --> 03:39:40,070
Thank you, and so we had two folks calling through public comment, giving us dates of the deceased, and I have here a date of June 9th, 2026, a bituary, where Mr. Turner moved to Perupp Nevada and family returned to Chicago, Illinois.

2827
03:39:40,990 --> 03:39:47,610
it's one in the same person. So we have three different dates. June 9th, 2026. In the

2828
03:39:47,610 --> 03:39:54,030
backup, it clearly reads the July was the date. So they're off by one month. Okay. And we go

2829
03:39:54,030 --> 03:39:59,890
by the backup. We appreciate the neighbors calling in. But we're going by the ongoing by the backup.

2830
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:28,980
And looking it up in the obituary where you said you can't push a button, commissioner. But I looked it up myself. June 9th, 2026. It's not that's not in the back of it. So second page it leads July. It reads that according to the owner was and Turner passed away last month. This was the date here is August 5th, 2026.

2831
03:40:28,980 --> 03:40:32,120
brings us to July and

2832
03:40:42,520 --> 03:40:46,640
this has not been recorded for the record, this has not been recorded

2833
03:40:46,640 --> 03:40:48,920
with the county recorder

2834
03:40:51,700 --> 03:40:54,980
as of today, according to the recorder.

2835
03:41:00,290 --> 03:41:08,110
So, Commissioner Jabor, are you seeking more time, are you, I mean, what would you think?

2836
03:41:08,510 --> 03:41:15,930
I'm giving it to Chair, I'm giving more information, more information, okay, to help support

2837
03:41:15,930 --> 03:41:27,930
What, what code enforcement has been doing, again, I'm not challenging or criticizing their diligent work and putting this information together.

2838
03:41:28,430 --> 03:41:31,110
It's very difficult when you don't have people on the property.

2839
03:41:31,650 --> 03:41:35,050
Question I have is, so this is a beta.

2840
03:41:35,470 --> 03:41:42,630
Bated property, properties, totally fenced, and then how are we going to prohibit and stop?

2841
03:41:43,570 --> 03:41:47,770
We'll call them vagrants, homeless, I'd like you to.

2842
03:41:47,930 --> 03:41:50,610
How are we going to stop them from coming on this proper?

2843
03:41:50,610 --> 03:41:52,210
So they're, and I've been inside the property.

2844
03:41:52,650 --> 03:41:54,030
There is a fence.

2845
03:41:54,310 --> 03:41:56,830
The problem is someone has kicked the fence in the front.

2846
03:41:57,230 --> 03:42:00,090
Now, when we evaded the building on West Street that was on fire,

2847
03:42:00,150 --> 03:42:03,730
what was really great about what they did was,

2848
03:42:03,870 --> 03:42:06,810
was that they did a really good job fencing.

2849
03:42:07,090 --> 03:42:09,730
So when we did that, a good job to you,

2850
03:42:09,730 --> 03:42:12,450
that's a great, of course, that's been kicked in since then, but no one's there.

2851
03:42:13,130 --> 03:42:17,290
The point I'm making is as long as we have, if we evaded, as long as we can secure it with

2852
03:42:17,290 --> 03:42:21,910
the same kind of fence, I don't know that we have anyone sophisticated enough to breach

2853
03:42:21,910 --> 03:42:25,270
that fence with whatever they've got.

2854
03:42:25,410 --> 03:42:29,110
So that's what I would, I mean, that's what I would like to do, and I'm happy to make a discussion

2855
03:42:29,110 --> 03:42:29,390
about it.

2856
03:42:29,910 --> 03:42:34,110
I don't think it would be that costly to remove what's there, at least from last week on

2857
03:42:34,110 --> 03:42:40,390
drove by a couple days ago, Sunday, and I drove by. And it just, it was looking much, it's just

2858
03:42:40,390 --> 03:42:45,390
trash there or something like just kind of in piles. So I don't, I don't think it's, it's not like one

2859
03:42:45,390 --> 03:42:49,810
of these things where it's been embedded into the ground or there's any kind of like waste,

2860
03:42:49,810 --> 03:42:56,490
issue, the RVs have been removed unless they're back. But I would like to do a motion to remove

2861
03:42:56,490 --> 03:43:02,450
the trash and then to secure the property with a fence. I don't know how this works. I know we have

2862
03:43:02,450 --> 03:43:08,290
incoming administrator, and I'm out of my element for this, but we do need to maybe notify

2863
03:43:08,290 --> 03:43:14,250
that this is likely to be as cheated to the state. I don't know why that works.

2864
03:43:14,530 --> 03:43:18,390
I don't really care. It's not my jurisdiction, but I would be pretty surprised if someone

2865
03:43:18,390 --> 03:43:22,570
stepped forward and took possession of this property. So I don't know if that's part of this

2866
03:43:22,570 --> 03:43:27,170
motion. Is this part of that motion? If it... No, we just... We just abated, and then we just keep an eye

2867
03:43:27,170 --> 03:43:32,170
on it. I think that's what we do. But that's my concern is it's going to sit.

2868
03:43:32,170 --> 03:43:39,070
However it is, that your motion, commissioner, if it is, I'm sorry, I don't know if I can do it.

2869
03:43:39,410 --> 03:43:44,290
There's a specific way to do a motion, but if I ask a question, please chair.

2870
03:43:45,070 --> 03:43:46,250
If I may, sorry.

2871
03:43:47,170 --> 03:43:49,630
So Susan has been in contact with the property owners.

2872
03:43:49,850 --> 03:43:53,630
They are, I'm sorry, the alleged property owners, the family.

2873
03:43:53,850 --> 03:43:56,610
And they are aware that they do need to remove this junk.

2874
03:43:56,610 --> 03:44:01,170
and they're willing to get this removed.

2875
03:44:01,710 --> 03:44:05,490
That's so I don't know if we want to give them 30 days

2876
03:44:05,490 --> 03:44:08,330
to abate it themselves and then we go in and abate

2877
03:44:08,330 --> 03:44:09,470
because they were just-

2878
03:44:09,470 --> 03:44:12,090
I know that we can move either the trespass

2879
03:44:12,090 --> 03:44:13,330
into someone else's land.

2880
03:44:13,350 --> 03:44:15,430
I don't know if you can get it out of there.

2881
03:44:15,590 --> 03:44:17,610
Give me all the ways of trespass with this land.

2882
03:44:17,790 --> 03:44:19,010
Is our DNA not there?

2883
03:44:21,480 --> 03:44:22,000
I'm here.

2884
03:44:22,480 --> 03:44:23,700
Now, what do you think, D.A.?

2885
03:44:26,000 --> 03:44:30,110
I'm not sure I've heard a specific question,

2886
03:44:30,110 --> 03:44:34,030
But what I'm hearing now is I think there's serious concerns about whether or not

2887
03:44:34,030 --> 03:44:38,530
it's actually constitutes a current of ownership.

2888
03:44:40,190 --> 03:44:42,750
Well, ownership, but it's a moral question of it.

2889
03:44:42,810 --> 03:44:46,910
Is it really truly a nuisance in his current condition?

2890
03:44:48,110 --> 03:44:55,610
If you declared a nuisance, then the process is, you have to serve notice for them to

2891
03:44:55,610 --> 03:44:59,970
clean it up and if they don't clean it up within 30 days, then the

2892
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:08,920
County has the ability to then abate the nuisance and then wherever the costs incurred become a lien on the property.

2893
03:45:10,840 --> 03:45:17,900
I ask a question just because the code enforcement agents are going to have to deal with is that I'm just looking for how they handle it.

2894
03:45:18,020 --> 03:45:28,360
Since the owner does not exist, then how do they handle it if the people who have their property on someone else's land? How do you want them to handle that?

2895
03:45:28,360 --> 03:45:37,700
Well, the practical issue here is that the county would have a lean on the property, but if it's not really enforceable, because the estate has no money.

2896
03:45:38,320 --> 03:45:43,360
I don't think the county should expect that there are going to be recouping any of the costs that this being incurred.

2897
03:45:44,240 --> 03:45:46,240
I mean, we have to be honest about that.

2898
03:45:46,900 --> 03:45:50,740
The real question is what do we, so the owner doesn't exist. There's no owner.

2899
03:45:51,080 --> 03:45:53,960
Someone says, well, that's my pile of trash out there, and I like to move it.

2900
03:45:53,960 --> 03:45:59,240
Can we can code legally say yeah, go right. I had that land that you don't own and go ahead and collect that

2901
03:45:59,240 --> 03:46:02,480
We should not be given permission to do anything with that land. I know there's a clean-up

2902
03:46:02,480 --> 03:46:09,400
The nuisance and who can do the cleaning of the nuisance even on the done property if the county declares it's a nuisance

2903
03:46:09,400 --> 03:46:11,360
Then notice has to go out

2904
03:46:11,360 --> 03:46:19,120
If after three days they don't debate the nuisance then by law the county has the authority to go in and clean up the property and obey the nuisance

2905
03:46:23,040 --> 03:46:26,800
Do you want the code people to call their contacts and say get your stuff out here?

2906
03:46:26,800 --> 03:46:29,460
even though they're not the owners, or does that, I don't want to put you on.

2907
03:46:29,620 --> 03:46:31,160
It's not a question what I want.

2908
03:46:31,460 --> 03:46:33,820
It's the only choice you have if you need to declare a notice,

2909
03:46:33,880 --> 03:46:34,980
or you don't need to declare a notice.

2910
03:46:35,140 --> 03:46:35,420
I understand.

2911
03:46:35,740 --> 03:46:36,220
I can't.

2912
03:46:38,300 --> 03:46:42,220
And by the way, Commissioner Bane, seeing how you claim donor ship earlier,

2913
03:46:42,440 --> 03:46:43,700
or you'll have to accuse yourself.

2914
03:46:43,700 --> 03:46:44,740
And the owner.

2915
03:46:45,480 --> 03:46:48,900
So we're all owners of this property, as much as anyone else.

2916
03:46:49,800 --> 03:46:52,160
I would, I, for what it's worth.

2917
03:46:52,460 --> 03:46:52,880
I'm sorry.

2918
03:46:53,280 --> 03:46:53,840
I'll stand out.

2919
03:46:54,460 --> 03:47:00,900
I'm still at, I've got a text into Rayland Powers, and I'm looking at the tax records on

2920
03:47:00,900 --> 03:47:08,680
this property, and the quarterly payments are only $94, but the first installment is $585.

2921
03:47:08,980 --> 03:47:13,200
That tells me that these are back taxes haven't been paid, and Rayland's on vacation.

2922
03:47:13,880 --> 03:47:15,800
So I don't know what the status of the taxes are.

2923
03:47:15,900 --> 03:47:16,440
Can you tell me?

2924
03:47:16,440 --> 03:47:16,800
All right.

2925
03:47:17,140 --> 03:47:22,240
It looks unpaid to the point where, you know, this whole thing is a hot man.

2926
03:47:22,240 --> 03:47:24,240
That's not even relevant. I mean, too.

2927
03:47:24,240 --> 03:47:26,360
Is it relevant because we get it up and put the

2928
03:47:26,360 --> 03:47:27,000
news in.

2929
03:47:27,300 --> 03:47:27,660
It isn't.

2930
03:47:27,780 --> 03:47:28,460
That's true.

2931
03:47:28,840 --> 03:47:29,080
That's true.

2932
03:47:29,260 --> 03:47:30,140
That's the question.

2933
03:47:30,780 --> 03:47:33,860
But as far as what the DA said about us being able to collect our money,

2934
03:47:34,340 --> 03:47:37,240
if we end up taking the property from back taxes, we'll be collecting our money.

2935
03:47:37,500 --> 03:47:37,960
It's my point.

2936
03:47:38,100 --> 03:47:38,800
And thank you.

2937
03:47:38,940 --> 03:47:41,720
I think if we give them 30 days, they will get it.

2938
03:47:42,480 --> 03:47:43,800
They've been in contact with us.

2939
03:47:43,960 --> 03:47:45,420
We finally talked to the granddaughter.

2940
03:47:46,380 --> 03:47:47,240
He's been very cooperative.

2941
03:47:48,320 --> 03:47:51,320
The grand son is the one that's here and down.

2942
03:47:51,320 --> 03:47:56,780
He's the one bringing this stuff in, but he did help remove what's been removed from the property.

2943
03:47:57,080 --> 03:47:59,180
So he brought it in and helped take it back home.

2944
03:47:59,240 --> 03:48:03,680
He created this and then it's in the process of cleaning it up.

2945
03:48:04,220 --> 03:48:05,480
How do you keep him here?

2946
03:48:05,900 --> 03:48:06,100
Chair, Chair.

2947
03:48:06,460 --> 03:48:07,020
Chair, Chair.

2948
03:48:07,260 --> 03:48:07,960
Yes, please, please.

2949
03:48:07,980 --> 03:48:08,520
I say so.

2950
03:48:08,520 --> 03:48:09,240
There we think I'm hearing.

2951
03:48:09,360 --> 03:48:15,720
My suggestion is that we continue this for 30 days to see if we can get this thing cleaned up

2952
03:48:15,720 --> 03:48:20,260
and then we can come back after 30 days and make a final decision.

2953
03:48:20,900 --> 03:48:31,160
I like that. I have. I have to make a motion if it doesn't go that's fine. I can't do that to these people. We have been continuing this for years really if you go back to the time when it was burned down.

2954
03:48:31,500 --> 03:48:38,220
These people on the street have been dealing with these same people who said they were the same people from what the testimony is I'm getting.

2955
03:48:38,440 --> 03:48:44,320
Who are saying that they are going to clean it up now. We're saying two years ago when it burned down that they were going to clean it up and get out.

2956
03:48:44,320 --> 03:48:46,540
They got out for a couple months and then came right back.

2957
03:48:47,180 --> 03:48:49,920
I can't do that if I lose, I lose, but I have to make the motion.

2958
03:48:50,180 --> 03:48:51,100
So I had to make the motion.

2959
03:48:51,340 --> 03:48:51,660
Yeah, please.

2960
03:48:51,700 --> 03:48:52,420
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2961
03:48:52,560 --> 03:48:52,940
Thank you.

2962
03:48:52,940 --> 03:48:53,360
Thank you, sir.

2963
03:48:53,500 --> 03:48:54,480
I appreciate that.

2964
03:48:54,860 --> 03:48:55,740
I would define the property.

2965
03:48:56,000 --> 03:48:59,380
You located 2, 4, 6, 1 South Mallory, Street Promot, Nevada, Constitutes in Newtons, in the

2966
03:48:59,380 --> 03:48:59,940
condition.

2967
03:49:00,360 --> 03:49:03,780
In that, the condition of the properties, the safety hazard and dangers to public health and

2968
03:49:03,780 --> 03:49:07,660
safety due to the accumulation of the non-operable vehicles to parties, trash junk, and

2969
03:49:07,660 --> 03:49:09,880
debris across the property.

2970
03:49:12,830 --> 03:49:19,050
If the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not debated

2971
03:49:20,090 --> 03:49:27,170
before October 1, 2026 County has ordered to debate the conditions percentage in the

2972
03:49:27,170 --> 03:49:29,790
County Code 17.0486.0M.

2973
03:49:31,470 --> 03:49:34,670
Can I ask for an amendment on that?

2974
03:49:35,090 --> 03:49:37,990
Could we identify a funding source if that's the case?

2975
03:49:38,170 --> 03:49:39,670
How are we even paid to do that?

2976
03:49:39,670 --> 03:49:41,530
How do we pay for the budget?

2977
03:49:42,230 --> 03:49:43,970
What is the typical funding source?

2978
03:49:44,810 --> 03:49:47,970
We don't really have that's part of the problem.

2979
03:49:48,630 --> 03:49:54,870
With these abadements, we don't have any kind of money that we collect in the co-compliance

2980
03:49:54,870 --> 03:49:57,030
that pays for this kind of stuff.

2981
03:49:57,530 --> 03:49:59,730
It's going to come out of somewhere else.

2982
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:04,780
That's our comptroller. We have a motion on the floor in two seconds, by the way. Go ahead.

2983
03:50:07,280 --> 03:50:09,660
We can use LATCF.

2984
03:50:09,660 --> 03:50:09,980
Done.

2985
03:50:12,290 --> 03:50:14,150
Is it acceptable for our own?

2986
03:50:15,170 --> 03:50:18,790
Even there's a good chance it's going to get cleaned up and it's all in my hope it does.

2987
03:50:19,390 --> 03:50:21,850
So can I, can I, can I amend it without restating?

2988
03:50:22,930 --> 03:50:23,350
Mr. DA.

2989
03:50:25,390 --> 03:50:26,310
Let's restate it.

2990
03:50:26,450 --> 03:50:27,010
Let's restate it.

2991
03:50:32,070 --> 03:50:34,790
Let's restate it.

2992
03:50:34,790 --> 03:50:48,010
He's just a nuisance in that the condition of the properties of safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety due to the accumulation of an unprofile vehicles RV's trash junk and debris across the property in the event.

2993
03:50:48,090 --> 03:50:58,670
The nuisance is found. I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated on or before October 1, 2026, the county's ordered to evade the conditions.

2994
03:50:58,670 --> 03:51:07,090
percent in iconic code 17, 404, 860MN funding source for this being the LATC F funds.

2995
03:51:07,170 --> 03:51:13,510
So, board with draws is first, second motion and I second this motion.

2996
03:51:16,400 --> 03:51:21,100
All right, we have a motion on the floor and a second. My question for you real quick before

2997
03:51:21,100 --> 03:51:25,840
we vote is, how do we keep the scumbag dude from jumping roll?

2998
03:51:26,600 --> 03:51:30,700
Do I put, I'm sorry, can I put air three state there with a fence on

2999
03:51:30,700 --> 03:51:33,720
Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Do you want me to rest? I will. I can do real quick.

3000
03:51:34,000 --> 03:51:34,060
I'm sorry.

3001
03:51:34,060 --> 03:51:35,140
Please submit your motion.

3002
03:51:35,480 --> 03:51:53,280
I'm ending such as to the abated conditions is inclusive of the government putting a suitable fence around the entire property, noting that there is partial fence at the property at this time.

3003
03:51:55,780 --> 03:52:03,300
Jiborso is second. All right, we've got an amended everything and a second everything amended we're ready to go let's vote

3004
03:52:06,360 --> 03:52:07,360
Jiborso I

3005
03:52:07,360 --> 03:52:10,740
Asked a tie that carries five zero. Thank you Rob and Celeste

3006
03:52:11,700 --> 03:52:13,360
Just to be clear

3007
03:52:13,360 --> 03:52:21,480
and correct me if I'm wrong DA if it goes to the point of the county oven to debate it and we're gonna use

3008
03:52:21,480 --> 03:52:27,780
last CF, we're going to have to come back and get that amount approved to amend our spending

3009
03:52:27,780 --> 03:52:29,880
plan for the last CF. Correct?

3010
03:52:32,120 --> 03:52:34,420
Yeah, that was not part of the motion. I wasn't sure if that

3011
03:52:34,420 --> 03:52:40,580
was or not. Yeah, I wasn't. I'm just getting clarification. And we could we could we could do that

3012
03:52:40,580 --> 03:52:46,700
later. That's correct. Okay. Can't imagine. All right. Good work. Let's do 12 please.

3013
03:52:53,250 --> 03:52:59,010
Item 12 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding clarification on the scope

3014
03:52:59,010 --> 03:53:05,430
in intent of the current county hiring freeze as it relates to personnel within the public safety

3015
03:53:05,430 --> 03:53:11,010
offices departments specifically the sheriff's office is requesting it to board determine

3016
03:53:11,010 --> 03:53:16,710
whether the hiring freeze is intended to apply to positions within the sheriff's office

3017
03:53:16,710 --> 03:53:22,570
from valetfire and emergency medical services or whether they are exempt from the hiring freeze.

3018
03:53:24,030 --> 03:53:25,290
Thank you for that.

3019
03:53:27,740 --> 03:53:29,300
I'm sure. Sheriff Joe McGill.

3020
03:53:29,300 --> 03:53:36,660
Um, so the reason we brought this up is because there keeps going back and forth as to do we have a freeze,

3021
03:53:36,700 --> 03:53:39,920
do we not have a freeze, do we have a freeze, do we not have a freeze, do we not have a freeze?

3022
03:53:39,920 --> 03:53:44,140
And it seems like every other week it goes a different way.

3023
03:53:45,180 --> 03:53:53,200
Um, the last we, uh, discussed something relative to this was replacing a terminated employee.

3024
03:53:54,080 --> 03:54:00,400
I understand that that is complicated in another way, however,

3025
03:54:02,480 --> 03:54:04,680
should this issue come up again.

3026
03:54:05,420 --> 03:54:08,060
We need to know whether we can rehire to fill our positions.

3027
03:54:08,940 --> 03:54:20,720
If we don't, we are going to be reducing our staff in effect by not allowing us to replace staff that may or may not leave for whatever reason.

3028
03:54:22,860 --> 03:54:25,900
So that's where I am.

3029
03:54:26,440 --> 03:54:28,880
Okay, can I offer some input on this please?

3030
03:54:29,660 --> 03:54:35,040
Okay, when the budget was adopted, all vacant positions,

3031
03:54:35,580 --> 03:54:38,140
if they become vacant or vacant at that time,

3032
03:54:38,240 --> 03:54:41,180
in the general fund were frozen.

3033
03:54:42,020 --> 03:54:45,020
That does not mean a department cannot come back to the board

3034
03:54:45,720 --> 03:54:48,220
and request that position to be filled.

3035
03:54:48,220 --> 03:54:56,600
It is just an extra step, but a lot of times when people do get terminated, resigned, whatever

3036
03:54:56,600 --> 03:54:59,960
the case may be, there's a curls that have to be paid up.

3037
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:10,220
Now with that position, like vacation time, sick time, and what we need to be cognizant of is if, with that added

3038
03:55:10,220 --> 03:55:16,520
cost of the accrual with that position leaving, sometimes if we leave it vacant for 90 days, let's

3039
03:55:16,520 --> 03:55:23,080
say, we can recoup that to where we're now back to what was actually budgeted for that position

3040
03:55:23,080 --> 03:55:28,880
for that year. So that's kind of what that extra step is in there for. As far as the fire department

3041
03:55:28,880 --> 03:55:34,460
goes this does not affect the fire department at this time because they are not part of the

3042
03:55:34,460 --> 03:55:36,200
night count in general fund.

3043
03:55:38,820 --> 03:55:38,920
Okay.

3044
03:55:38,920 --> 03:55:39,860
You're free.

3045
03:55:40,780 --> 03:55:41,160
You're free.

3046
03:55:41,700 --> 03:55:48,580
He's like, well, uh, okay, so let's still, does that make sense?

3047
03:55:49,280 --> 03:55:56,620
What I'm hearing is that when the position becomes vacant, you put in the vacancy form so

3048
03:55:56,620 --> 03:56:04,500
that we can look at as a board and make sure that we have the accrual, there's been an accrual

3049
03:56:05,260 --> 03:56:07,760
so that we keep our keep within our budget.

3050
03:56:07,960 --> 03:56:16,460
My understanding of the accrual is that that is accounted for in a fund of

3051
03:56:19,560 --> 03:56:20,800
accrual fund.

3052
03:56:21,540 --> 03:56:22,000
That's a good news.

3053
03:56:22,000 --> 03:56:27,100
If that's not correct in a perfect world, yes, that's the way it should work, but that

3054
03:56:27,100 --> 03:56:34,200
is not been done. This is not going to happen until now. That is something we are starting

3055
03:56:34,200 --> 03:56:39,740
to accrue for, but at this point we don't have much build up in there to keep up with the

3056
03:56:39,740 --> 03:56:46,320
pace. So, eventually, yes, you're right. Hopefully, we won't have to take that in a consideration

3057
03:56:46,320 --> 03:56:52,320
anymore. But at this point, we don't have those accruals and we had some pretty big retirements

3058
03:56:52,320 --> 03:56:57,760
that we just went through, so it's depleted a little bit we had.

3059
03:56:59,700 --> 03:57:01,960
Okay, how about we, well

3060
03:57:04,140 --> 03:57:05,920
we have to do public to them.

3061
03:57:06,640 --> 03:57:11,000
So, Commissioner Giboror or BANG, do you have anything to for we go to public comment?

3062
03:57:11,860 --> 03:57:12,720
Public comment please?

3063
03:57:13,320 --> 03:57:16,320
Okay, we're going to hang tight Joe, we're going to open up public comment.

3064
03:57:17,660 --> 03:57:19,060
Come on down Mr. Pippman.

3065
03:57:22,230 --> 03:57:30,830
Steven Pippman, P-I-T-M-A-N, as you're well aware, the primary function of a government is the safety of its citizens.

3066
03:57:32,570 --> 03:57:33,290
Thank you.

3067
03:57:33,390 --> 03:57:34,070
Thank you.

3068
03:57:34,290 --> 03:57:35,250
Come on down upon, please.

3069
03:57:39,700 --> 03:57:42,140
Angelina Jackson, J. A.C. K.K. and so on.

3070
03:57:44,220 --> 03:57:53,180
Of course, first and foremost, our first responders should be paid for their time and their sacrifices.

3071
03:57:53,180 --> 03:57:59,820
that make more than anybody in this county, and there's a difference in the salaries.

3072
03:58:00,260 --> 03:58:06,300
There's some of them actually exceed, which, well, one would expect to be paid over 100,000.

3073
03:58:08,740 --> 03:58:11,300
You can, Mr. Baskovic, you can sit there and shake your head.

3074
03:58:11,720 --> 03:58:17,850
Oh, it's green with you. Okay. And thank you for that. And so, there's positions that

3075
03:58:17,850 --> 03:58:25,330
But our inexplainable, okay, why we have 30 administrators or secretaries is beyond me.

3076
03:58:27,090 --> 03:58:33,590
There's all these people getting paid that nothing to show for it, and yet the share

3077
03:58:33,590 --> 03:58:38,150
is the permanent and fire department are the ones that are losing here.

3078
03:58:38,610 --> 03:58:44,910
And I'm all for it, however, there has to be accountability for these positions.

3079
03:58:45,650 --> 03:58:50,810
It blows my mind that ton of paw and the other child barely have any, any first responders

3080
03:58:50,810 --> 03:58:51,450
whatsoever.

3081
03:58:53,190 --> 03:58:58,590
So somebody's got to take some cutbacks in other departments, in order to pay them.

3082
03:58:59,210 --> 03:59:05,470
And there's no other way, because it's obvious there's no more money in the town.

3083
03:59:06,070 --> 03:59:07,350
We have no more money.

3084
03:59:07,770 --> 03:59:10,110
So where do you guys are planning to get this money from, it's beyond me?

3085
03:59:11,950 --> 03:59:14,330
You guys, you know, look at all the employees that you guys have.

3086
03:59:14,330 --> 03:59:20,990
I mean, they were paying $64 million for a year and take some cutbacks because some people

3087
03:59:20,990 --> 03:59:26,950
believe me, when you have an administrative secretary that's making $160,000 a year, come

3088
03:59:27,570 --> 03:59:28,050
on.

3089
03:59:29,130 --> 03:59:29,750
That's that's ridiculous.

3090
03:59:31,370 --> 03:59:35,970
Somebody needs to look back at payroll and you know, make some choices here in order for

3091
03:59:35,970 --> 03:59:39,950
that for these departments because us as taxpayers, we have no more to give.

3092
03:59:40,810 --> 03:59:43,950
everything that they get we've given we've shown that I have nothing for

3093
03:59:43,950 --> 03:59:49,370
thank you say I'm anybody coming to turn up by please oh okay let's go to

3094
03:59:49,370 --> 03:59:56,430
tone-up off. I timbo Henan BOHA in in Owen public safety is very

3095
03:59:56,430 --> 03:59:59,950
important budget is very important welcome find it

3096
04:00:00,920 --> 04:00:03,520
The key here is balance.

3097
04:00:06,190 --> 04:00:13,090
The key also is, okay, what is the extra cost beyond this? You fund it? Great. Have you counted

3098
04:00:13,090 --> 04:00:20,650
for day two? Have you counted for the retirement costs? They're associated with that, the employee benefits.

3099
04:00:21,410 --> 04:00:28,830
Making sure that's addressed in the budget. Making sure that's addressed when the funding, those are all key elements.

3100
04:00:28,830 --> 04:00:37,570
I'm going to refer to the board to say, hey, safety, finance, it's a tough combination.

3101
04:00:39,190 --> 04:00:41,390
Watch your budget, and watch our people.

3102
04:00:41,790 --> 04:00:42,490
Thank you.

3103
04:00:42,610 --> 04:00:43,270
Thank you.

3104
04:00:43,310 --> 04:00:44,670
Come on down, Beth.

3105
04:00:51,330 --> 04:00:52,710
Beth bore Savage.

3106
04:00:53,390 --> 04:00:54,010
That was weird.

3107
04:00:54,890 --> 04:00:57,610
B.O.R.Y.S.E.W. I.C.H.

3108
04:00:57,790 --> 04:01:02,930
When we first started talking about freezing positions,

3109
04:01:02,930 --> 04:01:19,850
I seem to recall that you guys were all in favor of always being prepared to keep the police department, or sheriff's department, sorry, funded and with employees.

3110
04:01:20,650 --> 04:01:27,110
So there should be no question. I don't know where you're going to get the money from, LATCF.

3111
04:01:27,110 --> 04:01:37,330
I don't know where you're going to get it, go into every department and tell them there's a 5% cut on everybody's salary, that'll pay for the share of that we need.

3112
04:01:39,190 --> 04:01:51,310
Instead of the people having to bite the bullet and potentially have more taxes, I think that all the staff should go ahead and suffer as well with us.

3113
04:01:51,310 --> 04:01:58,870
You know, 5%, I don't know how much that would hurt anybody, but that would pay for officers

3114
04:01:58,870 --> 04:01:59,930
that we need.

3115
04:02:00,490 --> 04:02:01,250
Thank you.

3116
04:02:01,350 --> 04:02:01,810
Thank you.

3117
04:02:01,870 --> 04:02:03,670
Sam, now we'll check the phone, please.

3118
04:02:04,770 --> 04:02:05,230
That's chair.

3119
04:02:05,350 --> 04:02:06,250
The caller is unmuted.

3120
04:02:06,630 --> 04:02:08,090
Please speak in the spelling of your name for the record.

3121
04:02:11,230 --> 04:02:11,830
Hello, Commissioner.

3122
04:02:12,070 --> 04:02:20,630
It's Bruce Johnson, J.O.A. Janet, S.O.N. and to all of our fine and lovely Perupians out there.

3123
04:02:20,630 --> 04:02:26,850
It might be time for the Braupyans actually to come together as a

3124
04:02:26,850 --> 04:02:32,950
township and consider doing a little reforming within our county.

3125
04:02:35,970 --> 04:02:40,350
We need to start looking at all these retirement plans,

3126
04:02:41,870 --> 04:02:44,290
all the union contributions.

3127
04:02:45,430 --> 04:02:48,990
Didn't we just have a bunch of money that just got approved on the last meeting

3128
04:02:48,990 --> 04:03:02,470
that went to Union organizers or something for the firefighters and, you know, there's a lot of places that a lot of money goes out to other people that actually could be paying these positions.

3129
04:03:03,070 --> 04:03:08,330
If this community was operating correctly as in a Republican informed.

3130
04:03:09,070 --> 04:03:16,590
So, I just want people out there to consider that and there are ways to make that happen

3131
04:03:16,590 --> 04:03:22,010
globally and we will get into the discussion about that and I land it there.

3132
04:03:22,190 --> 04:03:22,990
Thank you.

3133
04:03:23,070 --> 04:03:23,390
Thank you.

3134
04:03:23,630 --> 04:03:24,210
Come on down.

3135
04:03:24,990 --> 04:03:25,150
Debra.

3136
04:03:29,220 --> 04:03:32,460
Deborah Thomas, THOMAS,

3137
04:03:35,060 --> 04:03:43,840
it really concerns me when I see on an app on my phone and I see that

3138
04:03:43,840 --> 04:03:51,760
all my gosh, there's all kinds of people in that are in trouble or have gotten in

3139
04:03:51,760 --> 04:03:57,720
wrecks, have gotten stopped. It seems like we don't have enough police officers to do that.

3140
04:03:57,820 --> 04:04:05,940
I don't know, I might be wrong. Am I wrong? I didn't think so. So I think we need to do

3141
04:04:05,940 --> 04:04:12,680
everything we can, even if we have to cut back someplace else, because we really need to

3142
04:04:12,680 --> 04:04:26,680
protected. We need to have protection from people that are inherently bad and also we need to be protected.

3143
04:04:27,220 --> 04:04:37,440
Have our children protected from people that sell drugs. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Do you have any better for me?

3144
04:04:37,740 --> 04:04:40,680
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the following name for the record.

3145
04:04:43,970 --> 04:04:50,890
Hello, Commissioner's Michael David Gart, the NTAR, the IAA, my volume okay for you this time.

3146
04:04:51,450 --> 04:04:52,850
That's good Michael.

3147
04:04:54,880 --> 04:04:57,720
Thank you thank you thank you thank you appreciate it.

3148
04:04:57,800 --> 04:04:59,680
Anyhow, bye.

3149
04:05:00,370 --> 04:05:18,090
You know, we really got to come up out of the ether when it comes to the safety tool. This is the same man that came before you and described the flock used in his criminal activity by abusing and neglecting the system that the safety tool.

3150
04:05:18,370 --> 04:05:28,210
You know, I don't know how far you can go with the latch, the metropolitan operations of this, but maybe we get some more that hand or internal fraud in the civil rights violations.

3151
04:05:28,210 --> 04:05:42,050
And I'm trying to figure out what we can't use the last 24, you know, U.S.C. 18666 against all my state and federal partners that might have an ear on them to the prime example of it.

3152
04:05:42,510 --> 04:05:44,030
It's a safety tool.

3153
04:05:44,070 --> 04:05:52,330
We were formed to protect liberty, light, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, property rights, inherent rights.

3154
04:05:52,330 --> 04:05:59,190
You talk about drugs, but the number was economic market is against these children, look at

3155
04:05:59,190 --> 04:05:59,870
our courts.

3156
04:06:00,230 --> 04:06:06,090
Six years, you never tell us about the traffic of children in these courts, by these badges,

3157
04:06:07,210 --> 04:06:07,650
where are you at?

3158
04:06:07,690 --> 04:06:08,750
You've got a latch.

3159
04:06:09,290 --> 04:06:11,210
Do you want to latch on to something,

3160
04:06:13,680 --> 04:06:14,860
but you're still there?

3161
04:06:15,220 --> 04:06:16,960
I'm what time do I have?

3162
04:06:17,340 --> 04:06:18,080
Can you engage?

3163
04:06:18,440 --> 04:06:19,860
I can't see the cloth from here.

3164
04:06:20,560 --> 04:06:21,920
I've got a 30 second leg.

3165
04:06:23,400 --> 04:06:26,360
I count a belly responsibility,

3166
04:06:28,860 --> 04:06:31,750
transparent, fraud,

3167
04:06:32,730 --> 04:06:34,290
extortion and official oppression,

3168
04:06:34,650 --> 04:06:35,730
that's all you all are.

3169
04:06:39,040 --> 04:06:40,180
So who's going to help that?

3170
04:06:40,260 --> 04:06:43,300
Can we reallocate the Blackfield Special Prosecution for that?

3171
04:06:44,740 --> 04:06:45,460
I'm going to hold that.

3172
04:06:45,760 --> 04:06:46,480
I'm going to hold that.

3173
04:06:46,480 --> 04:06:46,840
I'm going to hold that.

3174
04:06:46,840 --> 04:06:47,080
I'm going to hold that.

3175
04:06:47,080 --> 04:06:48,660
I'm going to

3176
04:06:51,000 --> 04:06:51,660
hold that.

3177
04:06:51,820 --> 04:06:53,260
I came from

3178
04:06:56,360 --> 04:06:57,620
California originally.

3179
04:06:59,640 --> 04:07:00,700
You could be with me once.

3180
04:07:01,140 --> 04:07:02,820
I wouldn't go back if they paid me to go back.

3181
04:07:04,080 --> 04:07:09,580
And then I went to Colorado, beautiful place, beautiful place where I lived, lovely home,

3182
04:07:10,020 --> 04:07:14,020
lovely neighborhood, and then I came here.

3183
04:07:16,310 --> 04:07:19,970
And I love it here. I've said before, I don't love

3184
04:07:19,970 --> 04:07:23,010
our government because I think it's very unfunctional.

3185
04:07:25,230 --> 04:07:27,910
But I'm thinking about, we've got people

3186
04:07:27,910 --> 04:07:32,830
maybe going to be moving here, who knows, they keep looking at what's going on here, I sure

3187
04:07:32,830 --> 04:07:41,110
and come again. But we're going to have all these houses being built and supposedly all the

3188
04:07:41,110 --> 04:07:44,570
schools are going to get filled and we'll have enough room for all of them. We're going to have

3189
04:07:44,570 --> 04:07:50,870
all these people here. We need the third apartment and we need the sheriff's department. We can't

3190
04:07:50,870 --> 04:07:56,870
survive on what we have now. He's already running ragged from one end of the county to the other

3191
04:07:56,870 --> 04:07:59,430
and I'm sure that Mr. Lewis is also.

3192
04:08:00,150 --> 04:08:01,610
So how do we solve that?

3193
04:08:02,070 --> 04:08:03,950
And whatever you think you're going to do,

3194
04:08:04,150 --> 04:08:05,610
where's the money come from?

3195
04:08:06,510 --> 04:08:08,530
I know, we're going to get another grant.

3196
04:08:09,650 --> 04:08:13,130
So sick of hearing that word, we're not going to get another grant.

3197
04:08:13,290 --> 04:08:15,570
And even if you did, it's still not going to pay for anything.

3198
04:08:16,250 --> 04:08:18,370
So why don't we just try to figure out,

3199
04:08:18,550 --> 04:08:21,530
maybe we only need three commissioners instead of five?

3200
04:08:21,830 --> 04:08:25,490
I don't know if that's legal, but it's a good idea.

3201
04:08:25,490 --> 04:08:27,490
we could cut some expenses there.

3202
04:08:28,250 --> 04:08:29,090
We think. Yeah.

3203
04:08:30,250 --> 04:08:33,490
So, and there's probably a lot of other departments in this government.

3204
04:08:34,510 --> 04:08:37,790
Since we know we have probably too many,

3205
04:08:38,390 --> 04:08:40,050
and maybe a lot of them that are overpaid.

3206
04:08:40,190 --> 04:08:41,050
And don't get me wrong.

3207
04:08:41,110 --> 04:08:43,370
People need to income today because of our economy.

3208
04:08:43,370 --> 04:08:44,630
And I'm not knocking that.

3209
04:08:45,190 --> 04:08:47,210
But we have to make cuts.

3210
04:08:47,790 --> 04:08:48,570
Zina knows that.

3211
04:08:49,390 --> 04:08:52,310
You know, we have people in this town that understand that.

3212
04:08:52,490 --> 04:08:54,530
But for some reason, it doesn't move.

3213
04:08:54,530 --> 04:09:01,190
Thank you. Thank you. Okay, Sam, do you have anybody on the phone please? No chair. Come on up,

3214
04:09:06,460 --> 04:09:06,640
Dwight.

3215
04:09:06,800 --> 04:09:11,840
I'll stop Dwight, Lily, L-I-L-L-Y. Well, I think we've just went through all the budgets.

3216
04:09:13,580 --> 04:09:22,640
The county's broke. We need more police officers, so it seems to me where we find the money for the police officers is we lay off people and other departments.

3217
04:09:22,640 --> 04:09:25,900
and then you have the money to hire a police officer.

3218
04:09:26,540 --> 04:09:28,300
This is a commissioner's choice here.

3219
04:09:28,800 --> 04:09:30,780
You guys spent the money on salaries.

3220
04:09:31,620 --> 04:09:33,400
I looked at transparent Nevada.

3221
04:09:34,180 --> 04:09:37,440
25 people have taken $2,300,000 a year.

3222
04:09:38,000 --> 04:09:40,960
We lay some people off enough to what do we need?

3223
04:09:41,160 --> 04:09:42,020
6, 10.

3224
04:09:42,220 --> 04:09:43,960
I don't know if you'll set up any law scrutiny.

3225
04:09:44,640 --> 04:09:47,600
Then you divide that by how many you need laid off.

3226
04:09:47,780 --> 04:09:49,160
And then you have your police officer.

3227
04:09:49,540 --> 04:09:50,760
So it comes down to commission.

3228
04:09:50,760 --> 04:09:55,060
is public safety more important, is a more important

3229
04:09:55,060 --> 04:09:57,560
to have a police officer or a firefighter

3230
04:09:57,560 --> 04:09:59,860
out doing actually saving lives.

3231
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:10,580
Check the people, or is it more important having another person being paid on the payroll? If it's police officer, then you lay somebody else off and pay the people and then the problem solved.

3232
04:10:11,400 --> 04:10:18,180
But that's the decision you guys have to make. But to let us out of budget again, let's find money out of this account.

3233
04:10:18,480 --> 04:10:27,040
You'll be right back where you were this year, next June, wondering why we are 15 million dollars in the whole.

3234
04:10:27,800 --> 04:10:33,540
John brought it up before you guys people say you want us to spend men money. I'm telling you not to spend money

3235
04:10:33,540 --> 04:10:38,280
I'm telling you read a portion of the money to take care of public safety

3236
04:10:38,840 --> 04:10:39,320
So

3237
04:10:39,320 --> 04:10:46,400
this department at eight people lay to a loft that you can hire an officer. This is not copy. It's not rocket science

3238
04:10:46,400 --> 04:10:50,080
You're just are you willing to do it. I don't know. We'll see

3239
04:10:53,060 --> 04:10:54,700
Thank you to what it's always very

3240
04:10:56,140 --> 04:10:56,620
easy

3241
04:10:57,420 --> 04:10:58,940
Come on down sir

3242
04:11:04,220 --> 04:11:14,580
Darrell Wade, WAD, being a former EMS member, having worked with forces of many walks, police, etc.

3243
04:11:15,580 --> 04:11:20,160
I am in this for Joe. I am in this for the Department. We need more officers.

3244
04:11:20,880 --> 04:11:28,820
When you're laying at bed at night and there's a house burning next to you, you're going to wonder if you have enough officers or police officers to handle that situation.

3245
04:11:28,820 --> 04:11:33,600
Now, I know there's a lot of money issues, but we can be creative.

3246
04:11:34,500 --> 04:11:41,280
We need to put our heads together, stop laying blame on everybody else, get down, sit down,

3247
04:11:41,280 --> 04:11:42,800
and figure it out.

3248
04:11:43,140 --> 04:11:44,120
That's the bottom line.

3249
04:11:44,600 --> 04:11:46,580
We need more EMS.

3250
04:11:47,120 --> 04:11:52,260
We've got an aging fleet, we need to get the fleets up, we need to get our proper equipment

3251
04:11:52,260 --> 04:11:57,220
going for today's standards, it's just a matter of creative financing.

3252
04:11:57,220 --> 04:12:02,960
let's get it together and do it. Thank you, Sam anybody on the phone, please.

3253
04:12:03,080 --> 04:12:04,800
Come on up Anthony.

3254
04:12:08,000 --> 04:12:13,620
Anthony Greco, GRECO. If I was in charge, I would sit down with

3255
04:12:13,620 --> 04:12:19,660
everybody we have contracts with and renegotiate contracts because they can't,

3256
04:12:20,100 --> 04:12:26,240
the unions cannot force us to bankrupt ourselves. So they're going to have to work with us

3257
04:12:26,240 --> 04:12:32,700
to cut back and make new contracts and that way for them to expire because we could just tell

3258
04:12:32,700 --> 04:12:35,560
we you know your services is no longer needed.

3259
04:12:38,750 --> 04:12:40,670
Thank you for that. Come on down, Tim.

3260
04:12:43,730 --> 04:12:50,250
Good afternoon, Tammy. Good afternoon, PIT and I N. So I know Ms. Teshken confirmed that there is

3261
04:12:50,250 --> 04:12:59,330
a fund that was made years ago to put money aside every year to a crew for when people

3262
04:12:59,330 --> 04:13:06,910
leave for separation, vacation, petio, etc. It has not been funded for the last, I don't

3263
04:13:06,910 --> 04:13:10,730
have any years because nobody's putting money in it and I'm probably wouldn't doubt if

3264
04:13:10,730 --> 04:13:16,450
some's coming out of it and it's gone to nothing but there was a fund and the name of it

3265
04:13:16,450 --> 04:13:24,990
escape me but I have it and so yes so if the funds still exists y'all have to start realizing

3266
04:13:24,990 --> 04:13:30,710
that you have to put that money in every year or you're going to bankrupt us every year there's

3267
04:13:30,710 --> 04:13:37,610
no going getting away from it and arm when we tell our departments you have X number of dollars

3268
04:13:37,610 --> 04:13:43,590
to spend and said saying oh this is my wish list I want this much money got into it the other way

3269
04:13:43,590 --> 04:13:50,670
around. This is our fixed costs. This is how much money is coming in from property tax.

3270
04:13:50,830 --> 04:13:55,330
This is how much we know what's going to come in from sales tax. Say, okay, I heard

3271
04:13:55,330 --> 04:14:00,090
our fixed costs. This is how much this department gets. This is department gets this department

3272
04:14:00,090 --> 04:14:05,550
gets and one of the fixed costs has to be money going in that account. You can't avoid

3273
04:14:05,550 --> 04:14:08,170
it or you may as well just close up shop.

3274
04:14:09,710 --> 04:14:11,950
Thanks Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please? No chair.

3275
04:14:11,950 --> 04:14:13,930
All right, we're gonna close public comment.

3276
04:14:15,980 --> 04:14:16,600
Go ahead, Joe.

3277
04:14:18,680 --> 04:14:21,940
I did not. I know that we're broke.

3278
04:14:22,140 --> 04:14:31,840
I know this county is poor. I know that this county is not that this this under funding has been

3279
04:14:31,840 --> 04:14:40,100
building and building and building for many, many years. But our staffing has not been building

3280
04:14:40,100 --> 04:14:46,220
the population has been. I know I stand up here and say this to you all the time, but we're

3281
04:14:46,220 --> 04:14:54,660
at the same staffing level that we were at 10 to 20 years ago. And we cannot continue to operate

3282
04:14:55,200 --> 04:14:59,960
at that level. Right now, I realize we don't have any...

3283
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:02,580
Open positions. Okay, because they were all taken away.

3284
04:15:05,390 --> 04:15:27,850
That's another issue that needs to be addressed before two terrible long, but can't be addressed today. I just need to know that if I have a person resign or if I terminate a person that I can replace that person. That's all. That's all I'm asking right now. It's a pretty small ask.

3285
04:15:27,850 --> 04:15:34,730
I just, I mean, I got an application sent to me from HR this morning on my email for a lateral

3286
04:15:34,730 --> 04:15:37,450
transfer from Metro Police.

3287
04:15:38,030 --> 04:15:40,170
I guess I want to come out here and work.

3288
04:15:41,210 --> 04:15:41,710
He's certified.

3289
04:15:42,530 --> 04:15:48,410
It would only take a few weeks to train him in and away we do things and we could get him

3290
04:15:48,410 --> 04:15:49,270
up and run it.

3291
04:15:49,550 --> 04:15:51,830
We just need to know that we can hire him or not.

3292
04:15:55,740 --> 04:15:56,740
That's all I'm asking right now.

3293
04:15:56,740 --> 04:16:02,160
And it's my understanding that if there's a position that Joe or Scott or whoever needs to fill,

3294
04:16:02,600 --> 04:16:06,520
they bring an item forward, and this boardboats on that position, is that correct?

3295
04:16:06,780 --> 04:16:08,040
With a justification.

3296
04:16:08,220 --> 04:16:09,100
Just a occasion.

3297
04:16:09,140 --> 04:16:14,800
And I'm going to correct one statement that was just made that we're at the same staffing level as 20 years ago.

3298
04:16:15,380 --> 04:16:21,760
In 2022, I believe we had a nice contract, which added 19 positions.

3299
04:16:22,260 --> 04:16:24,100
Those positions have not went away.

3300
04:16:24,340 --> 04:16:24,960
But I did.

3301
04:16:24,960 --> 04:16:27,560
That's far less than 20 years ago, right?

3302
04:16:28,180 --> 04:16:29,620
I completely get it.

3303
04:16:29,940 --> 04:16:33,500
And the bottom line is each of our property taxes has a cap,

3304
04:16:33,560 --> 04:16:36,360
if it's an owner occupied, I believe, 3%, right?

3305
04:16:36,940 --> 04:16:40,540
So each year, each year, our property tax

3306
04:16:40,540 --> 04:16:43,680
goes up three more percent, which goes into the coffers,

3307
04:16:44,380 --> 04:16:46,580
tell me how much inflation has been.

3308
04:16:47,480 --> 04:16:52,560
This is not the whole excuse, but we all damn well know

3309
04:16:52,560 --> 04:16:54,440
when we go fill up our freaking cars,

3310
04:16:55,000 --> 04:16:58,240
it does not cost today, what it did five years ago.

3311
04:16:59,620 --> 04:17:01,700
And bread, eggs, anything else.

3312
04:17:02,300 --> 04:17:03,880
So that's also a problem.

3313
04:17:04,880 --> 04:17:06,960
And nobody wants to raise taxes.

3314
04:17:07,860 --> 04:17:10,460
And everybody wants to cut expenditures

3315
04:17:10,460 --> 04:17:13,460
which we're gonna get to your items here very soon

3316
04:17:13,460 --> 04:17:15,700
and you're going to let people know

3317
04:17:15,700 --> 04:17:18,700
what leaps and bounds have been made

3318
04:17:18,700 --> 04:17:20,440
just in the last year to half.

3319
04:17:20,440 --> 04:17:23,900
So it is a big problem to not raise taxes,

3320
04:17:24,700 --> 04:17:30,040
understanding that inflation is outpacing our property tax payments.

3321
04:17:31,000 --> 04:17:32,060
I don't like paying taxes.

3322
04:17:32,900 --> 04:17:35,140
I sure is heck, I'm not going to offer to pay more.

3323
04:17:36,560 --> 04:17:37,880
Where it is.

3324
04:17:39,080 --> 04:17:40,700
I understand your problem though, I do.

3325
04:17:40,940 --> 04:17:42,440
I believe me, I'm not against it.

3326
04:17:43,220 --> 04:17:48,360
But the deficit that we had when Zena came on,

3327
04:17:48,360 --> 04:17:54,940
year you know whenever it was we were so freaking far upside down it was pathetic and

3328
04:17:54,940 --> 04:18:00,920
they have made amazing strides to get us back your department was terribly upside down

3329
04:18:00,920 --> 04:18:08,360
the jail which we'll get but I mean we'll get it all taken care of it's just money doesn't fall

3330
04:18:08,360 --> 04:18:14,720
for the sky so we got a cut where we can and uh spend wisely.

3331
04:18:15,660 --> 04:18:16,960
Mr. Chairman, may I have very quickly.

3332
04:18:17,000 --> 04:18:17,480
Go ahead.

3333
04:18:17,640 --> 04:18:18,400
I'm going to make it quick.

3334
04:18:18,680 --> 04:18:19,280
Thank you.

3335
04:18:19,600 --> 04:18:21,500
I guess I'm just, if we have no open positions.

3336
04:18:21,800 --> 04:18:24,880
I guess I just don't, I understand it to another step.

3337
04:18:25,160 --> 04:18:28,120
But if, if that's what everyone wants is to go for the board and ask for the justification,

3338
04:18:28,880 --> 04:18:30,340
what is the problem with that I guess?

3339
04:18:30,500 --> 04:18:33,660
And I'm not, I'm not trying to setting up for failure and say how I feel,

3340
04:18:33,820 --> 04:18:37,220
but what, what is the sticking point is to why can't we just say,

3341
04:18:37,420 --> 04:18:40,560
here we have an open position and then just go before that.

3342
04:18:40,580 --> 04:18:41,100
We have these meetings.

3343
04:18:41,100 --> 04:18:45,960
I feel like they're every day and honestly they're like every two weeks and keep adding them.

3344
04:18:46,620 --> 04:18:51,200
So I'm not trying to push back, but I just, I don't understand the difference

3345
04:18:52,660 --> 04:18:57,600
functionally from a management standpoint of asking for the justification for them so that we

3346
04:18:57,600 --> 04:19:01,480
get the justification for them so there's no other department heads or mad that they don't have to

3347
04:19:01,480 --> 04:19:06,200
one department doesn't and the other does. In the event that we just approve of everything that's given

3348
04:19:06,200 --> 04:19:10,640
to us, as far as any first responder positions, I guess I just don't understand what the difference is.

3349
04:19:10,640 --> 04:19:13,220
is there a difference between not having a freeze

3350
04:19:13,220 --> 04:19:14,920
and having to come before us?

3351
04:19:15,120 --> 04:19:16,000
Does anyone know?

3352
04:19:16,300 --> 04:19:18,780
The problem, Commissioner, is last time we were here,

3353
04:19:20,120 --> 04:19:23,000
there didn't seem to be a consensus between

3354
04:19:24,280 --> 04:19:26,040
all as to whether we were frozen.

3355
04:19:26,480 --> 04:19:27,060
Sure, Sheriff.

3356
04:19:27,640 --> 04:19:30,620
You know why that position cannot be filled.

3357
04:19:30,940 --> 04:19:32,720
That position, yes, I understand.

3358
04:19:32,940 --> 04:19:37,760
But we had a dispatcher position that was denied us

3359
04:19:39,000 --> 04:19:43,780
Because there was no consensus on the board as to whether we were under a freezer.

3360
04:19:45,000 --> 04:19:46,000
Did you come again?

3361
04:19:47,260 --> 04:19:48,180
Oh, we said no.

3362
04:19:48,600 --> 04:19:53,160
You come back with a justification form just like anybody else does.

3363
04:19:53,460 --> 04:19:57,640
When you're presented to the commissioners, they need to know what they're saying yes to.

3364
04:19:57,900 --> 04:19:59,960
They need to know that there's money to cover it.

3365
04:20:00,210 --> 04:20:16,210
That's all that's being required. You need to present what that item wouldn't even be considered at the last time we were here, because nobody knew whether we were under a freeze or not.

3366
04:20:18,260 --> 04:20:26,640
like sister pain on so there's a form that we have to share we have to fill out

3367
04:20:26,640 --> 04:20:31,220
office of share of whatever it is I want to dispatcher and then it gets presented I mean

3368
04:20:31,220 --> 04:20:36,820
I'll sponsor your stuff if you want I mean is that help I'm just trying to I just don't

3369
04:20:36,820 --> 04:20:40,700
understand why I didn't I didn't vote on a dispatcher position did you did anyone I don't

3370
04:20:40,700 --> 04:20:48,240
want to remember that no one up here remembers a dispatcher position did you did you put it on the

3371
04:20:48,240 --> 04:20:55,500
up here, but share if you're not wrong, that freeze was confusing, but it wasn't necessarily

3372
04:20:55,500 --> 04:21:00,020
as confusing as it may have sounded because it wasn't set to be forever freeze.

3373
04:21:00,720 --> 04:21:08,140
Zina had a task at hand to try to get our stuff in order, that won't spud it, uh-huh,

3374
04:21:08,360 --> 04:21:17,580
adopt, and so the freeze was introduced for that period of time, and after July, whatever,

3375
04:21:17,580 --> 04:21:19,480
The new fiscal year, right?

3376
04:21:19,880 --> 04:21:22,820
Any items or any positions that you need, or

3377
04:21:22,820 --> 04:21:24,340
Scott needs, or whoever needs,

3378
04:21:24,800 --> 04:21:25,260
brain-forward.

3379
04:21:26,520 --> 04:21:27,560
If we consider that.

3380
04:21:27,560 --> 04:21:28,120
If we consider that.

3381
04:21:28,120 --> 04:21:28,500
If we consider that.

3382
04:21:28,860 --> 04:21:29,280
Go ahead.

3383
04:21:29,340 --> 04:21:29,980
Stepping on your toes.

3384
04:21:30,220 --> 04:21:32,060
I guess my question is, I would like to answer.

3385
04:21:32,500 --> 04:21:34,320
What is the difference between,

3386
04:21:34,320 --> 04:21:35,480
I don't want to freeze.

3387
04:21:36,220 --> 04:21:38,820
But if, if all the county manager wants us to

3388
04:21:38,820 --> 04:21:40,600
all the foreign fill out, is that correct?

3389
04:21:41,080 --> 04:21:41,500
County manager?

3390
04:21:42,080 --> 04:21:42,300
Yes.

3391
04:21:42,640 --> 04:21:44,580
And I want the cost,

3392
04:21:44,580 --> 04:21:53,700
the cost of the decision you're going to be made, I want you guys to be aware of that so you can make an educated decision.

3393
04:21:54,260 --> 04:22:05,800
Because those forms go through, I'm sorry, the forms go through finance, they go through HR, HR costs out what that position is going to be.

3394
04:22:05,800 --> 04:22:12,380
if it's a lateral, sometimes we hire them in at a step three instead of a step one.

3395
04:22:13,280 --> 04:22:15,680
They're hired in at a little higher cost.

3396
04:22:16,180 --> 04:22:19,600
They might be replacing a step one position that vacated.

3397
04:22:21,460 --> 04:22:27,580
So there's research and information that goes into those forms that goes into the back up.

3398
04:22:27,940 --> 04:22:31,020
So you guys see exactly what it's going to cost.

3399
04:22:31,800 --> 04:22:37,240
And if we budget it for it, or if we're having to add to the budget, or et cetera,

3400
04:22:38,360 --> 04:22:42,180
you just concerned that something's just going to be done, and no one's going to know about it,

3401
04:22:42,260 --> 04:22:43,220
and all of a sudden, here's a new guy.

3402
04:22:43,400 --> 04:22:44,100
Is that the concern?

3403
04:22:44,260 --> 04:22:45,560
That's not what it is because I thought that.

3404
04:22:45,560 --> 04:22:47,500
I mean, it's actually a way to the ban.

3405
04:22:47,800 --> 04:22:50,740
I mean, my point is if we got rid of this whatever ban going on,

3406
04:22:50,740 --> 04:22:53,140
the concern from county management is just all of a sudden,

3407
04:22:53,260 --> 04:22:56,180
here's deputy Jones, he just shows up, and nobody knows about it,

3408
04:22:56,180 --> 04:22:57,360
but he's already being put through.

3409
04:22:57,540 --> 04:22:58,360
Is that the concern?

3410
04:22:58,680 --> 04:22:59,760
Is things just getting put through?

3411
04:22:59,760 --> 04:23:05,960
No, the concern is the cost and Zena's task of getting us back on track.

3412
04:23:06,660 --> 04:23:14,760
Which we're going to hear, there's no, there's no difference effectively between just going through this process and putting these forms of all the stuff in it.

3413
04:23:16,600 --> 04:23:27,760
And if, let me reference this, if we made the decision, we're just going to prove everything for the share of is there any difference between effectively between just going through this process and then just

3414
04:23:28,600 --> 04:23:32,340
getting rid of the freeze for the sheriff. I guess I'm just struggling. I still

3415
04:23:32,340 --> 04:23:38,020
am struggling to see the difference. Well, I don't think the freeze currently is

3416
04:23:38,020 --> 04:23:42,660
the same freeze that we had last fiscal year because it was a hard and

3417
04:23:42,660 --> 04:23:47,400
fast, no way, right? There's sheriffs in the water.

3418
04:23:50,760 --> 04:23:52,780
There's sheriffs in the

3419
04:23:52,780 --> 04:23:54,480
Go ahead. Go ahead, Commissioner.

3420
04:23:55,760 --> 04:23:56,720
Thank you.

3421
04:23:58,500 --> 04:24:02,200
I see what Commissioner Bain is saying is that,

3422
04:24:02,200 --> 04:24:06,440
is that, look, if we lift the freeze on the sheriff's office,

3423
04:24:09,510 --> 04:24:10,970
we're going to approve it.

3424
04:24:11,150 --> 04:24:12,870
We know what it's going to cost.

3425
04:24:13,350 --> 04:24:15,490
If you want to form to come before us,

3426
04:24:15,650 --> 04:24:19,010
you want the sheriff to formally come before us.

3427
04:24:19,270 --> 04:24:20,790
We're going to approve it.

3428
04:24:20,810 --> 04:24:21,810
It's a first responder.

3429
04:24:21,810 --> 04:24:31,470
Okay? It's a necessary position. Then why are we continuously talking about a freeze?

3430
04:24:33,190 --> 04:24:40,130
What nobody has brought up and I'll bring it up is we want this form, we want this justification form.

3431
04:24:40,650 --> 04:24:48,870
We all know that we need the first responders out there to protect and serve all of the first responders.

3432
04:24:48,870 --> 04:24:56,010
about over time. How much over time? Because of the freeze has been spent in the

3433
04:24:56,010 --> 04:24:59,650
sheriff's office because it's necessary to have them out.

3434
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:13,840
On the street, assisting, protecting, serving, taking care of all of these pertinent issues that we're talking about, and we're so concerned about, rightfully so.

3435
04:25:14,840 --> 04:25:24,040
It's over $350,000 to in the back up, but we don't want to address the overtime because

3436
04:25:24,040 --> 04:25:24,900
there's a freeze.

3437
04:25:25,180 --> 04:25:30,560
So if there's a freeze, I'll just issue overtime to my officers, and I'll get it done.

3438
04:25:31,020 --> 04:25:36,840
So thank you, Sheriff, because you're making that command decision to get it done.

3439
04:25:37,800 --> 04:25:42,660
But now you're coming before us to say, I want clarification because I don't want to have

3440
04:25:42,660 --> 04:25:48,200
this command decision each and every week and month when I get a transfer request.

3441
04:25:49,440 --> 04:25:55,380
The sheriff will tell you that Commissioner Bain and I, we were confused and we asked

3442
04:25:55,380 --> 04:26:00,740
Elona, the director of HR to please clarify, was here in Chambers here in Donapac.

3443
04:26:02,100 --> 04:26:08,020
We can't possibly be seriously thinking about a freeze on the sheriff's office or the fire department

3444
04:26:08,020 --> 04:26:16,900
or EMS, and the response was, oh no, no freeze for them, but it wasn't in the backup.

3445
04:26:17,140 --> 04:26:20,260
It wasn't clear, so there was once again confusion.

3446
04:26:24,350 --> 04:26:30,990
We, we as, as, as, not to pick on your Susie, she said, we need to get our act together.

3447
04:26:32,190 --> 04:26:36,310
We need to put all of the facts together when making these decisions

3448
04:26:39,320 --> 04:26:42,040
over time, considerable amount

3449
04:26:42,040 --> 04:26:49,620
money and a freeze on a few deputies, a dispatcher. This is what he's

3450
04:26:49,620 --> 04:26:54,180
asked you. So, Sheriff, I'm going to wait to hear from the final decision

3451
04:26:54,180 --> 04:26:59,880
from all of us, but what I'm hearing, the message is, is that, come before us,

3452
04:27:00,080 --> 04:27:06,520
get those, get those justification forms ready. Get them ready. Backdate them.

3453
04:27:06,520 --> 04:27:14,360
present them. They're going to be approved, okay? You want more deputies? You're going to get more deputies.

3454
04:27:15,060 --> 04:27:18,360
Get those forms ready, because I'm ready to sign off on them.

3455
04:27:19,940 --> 04:27:26,280
I appreciate that. I just want to call your attention and line one of my item. It says regarding

3456
04:27:28,100 --> 04:27:32,950
clarification on a scope and intent of the current hiring phrase. That's why I'm here.

3457
04:27:33,430 --> 04:27:34,750
It was confusing.

3458
04:27:35,730 --> 04:27:39,230
I couldn't get the same answer from two different people.

3459
04:27:39,270 --> 04:27:41,390
Can you guys look at what I know you're on a lag here?

3460
04:27:41,770 --> 04:27:44,150
He's hearing means in the room somewhere.

3461
04:27:44,650 --> 04:27:45,170
Can we look around?

3462
04:27:45,450 --> 04:27:46,010
Yes, he's here.

3463
04:27:47,110 --> 04:27:47,910
Can he stop that real quick?

3464
04:27:48,190 --> 04:27:49,370
I think he can answer this.

3465
04:27:49,510 --> 04:27:49,950
I really do.

3466
04:27:50,990 --> 04:27:52,410
Mr. Means, can you step up really quickly?

3467
04:27:52,890 --> 04:27:55,850
I am just curious about this one question because it'll bother me.

3468
04:27:56,030 --> 04:27:56,750
I'll never know the answer.

3469
04:27:57,150 --> 04:27:58,550
I feel like I'm speaking like a different.

3470
04:27:58,550 --> 04:28:00,590
I've never spoken a different language, but this is the closest.

3471
04:28:00,590 --> 04:28:04,290
does that come? Do you want to speak? Do you have to spell his name?

3472
04:28:04,870 --> 04:28:05,970
Eric Means. What do you mean?

3473
04:28:06,510 --> 04:28:07,490
Enter on a threat or a threat?

3474
04:28:08,270 --> 04:28:12,590
So, can you explain because you were a captain for a long time? I think you still are legally.

3475
04:28:13,770 --> 04:28:18,230
What is the difference? If you don't have anything open right now, it's being held up.

3476
04:28:18,250 --> 04:28:23,550
I thought there was. What is the difference effectively between just making the sheriff's office just

3477
04:28:23,550 --> 04:28:26,750
for a lot of this wacky farm that we all look, because I'm going to, I'm going to go for

3478
04:28:26,750 --> 04:28:29,950
every single share of position that is being asked for.

3479
04:28:30,110 --> 04:28:32,030
I mean, everyone knows this in town probably.

3480
04:28:32,550 --> 04:28:34,590
What is the difference between that and let's say I'll win.

3481
04:28:35,170 --> 04:28:37,930
But what is the difference you're just making that firm be filled out

3482
04:28:37,930 --> 04:28:39,930
and unfreezing all the depth?

3483
04:28:40,070 --> 04:28:40,850
Is there a difference?

3484
04:28:42,050 --> 04:28:43,610
So yeah, we're talking two different things.

3485
04:28:44,230 --> 04:28:45,990
The form gets filled out for every department.

3486
04:28:46,650 --> 04:28:50,070
We, sorry, we have not had a form come through or position

3487
04:28:50,070 --> 04:28:52,390
come through, since me taking over HR,

3488
04:28:52,910 --> 04:28:55,890
but prior to me taking over HR, when I was at the sheriff's office,

3489
04:28:55,890 --> 04:29:00,590
We would submit the form and go through the entire process and it never came before the B. O. C.

3490
04:29:01,630 --> 04:29:07,790
And that's been since the hiring freeze, which is not really, I think we're talking to them for things

3491
04:29:07,790 --> 04:29:13,250
and people are talking about adding more positions and just filling positions that have become vacated during this year.

3492
04:29:13,570 --> 04:29:14,590
Basically, share this on this.

3493
04:29:14,810 --> 04:29:18,950
It doesn't have to be for us. Where does it go? It just goes, we don't know where to went.

3494
04:29:19,170 --> 04:29:19,890
It just gets approved.

3495
04:29:20,650 --> 04:29:24,970
It used to be administrative decision by the county manager.

3496
04:29:25,550 --> 04:29:34,810
Yes, so it goes through HR, writes their numbers and finance says we have enough money, it goes to the county manager, county manager reviews all of that, it gets approved, it can be failed.

3497
04:29:35,690 --> 04:29:39,750
We have a county manager, do you have a problem with going back to that?

3498
04:29:39,990 --> 04:29:41,110
You wanted to go before us.

3499
04:29:41,230 --> 04:29:41,770
Is that correct?

3500
04:29:42,590 --> 04:29:44,850
Well, do we need to know how to pay for it, too?

3501
04:29:46,190 --> 04:29:53,090
We need the cost and the end part of the issue has been and that's part of what the next item is that we'll get to.

3502
04:29:53,090 --> 04:29:59,570
is the justification forms of gotten very lacks, not just with share of the department.

3503
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:07,460
But all departments. So we're trying to get things back in line. So you guys know what you're making decisions on.

3504
04:30:07,680 --> 04:30:23,940
And you guys are up to date and real time, what budget, Terry issues there are. It's not to prevent hiring or filling vacant positions in the sheriff's permit. All it is is trying to make sure we know what we're doing.

3505
04:30:23,940 --> 04:30:34,360
If we have an employee that leads, that we have to pay out $200,000 in accruals, we need to try to realize that back somehow.

3506
04:30:35,140 --> 04:30:39,500
And that's all it is, is to give us a time to calculate that out.

3507
04:30:42,250 --> 04:30:44,350
Okay, can we try this method?

3508
04:30:45,030 --> 04:30:48,150
Was the sheriff's office okay with us trying this method?

3509
04:30:48,790 --> 04:30:50,630
And then, because right now there's nothing open, is that correct?

3510
04:30:50,710 --> 04:30:53,070
Is there anything open that we want to fill with the sheriff's office?

3511
04:30:54,550 --> 04:30:57,650
There is currently nothing open right now, that is correct.

3512
04:30:58,150 --> 04:31:00,670
And to address something that County manager mentioned.

3513
04:31:01,330 --> 04:31:04,370
Yeah, I missed a position justification for them recently.

3514
04:31:04,970 --> 04:31:05,750
Yeah, I did.

3515
04:31:06,090 --> 04:31:10,190
As soon as it was brought to my attention, I think it was sent through that same day.

3516
04:31:12,530 --> 04:31:13,990
But I'm not trying to be you out, man.

3517
04:31:13,990 --> 04:31:14,510
I really am not.

3518
04:31:14,750 --> 04:31:16,970
I just want, because everyone seems really upset about this.

3519
04:31:17,110 --> 04:31:21,210
As I'm going to give you, I just, if everyone really wants this form and really wants to have this discussion,

3520
04:31:21,210 --> 04:31:25,010
I'm going to vote yes and all your guys and he's probably going to vote yes and all your guys

3521
04:31:25,010 --> 04:31:29,050
So maybe just do it their way so that we don't have this fight it seems to be a non-stop

3522
04:31:29,050 --> 04:31:35,550
I'm doing it their way because I know that's that's their way like I said I miss how come it's their way, it's but policy

3523
04:31:36,390 --> 04:31:40,330
Right it's policy that's all right. That's fine. I

3524
04:31:40,330 --> 04:31:45,370
Will say Brett I realize we have a meeting tomorrow on this one and

3525
04:31:46,130 --> 04:31:49,600
Right now we I don't think we're quite seen I don't I on it

3526
04:31:49,600 --> 04:31:57,500
But the decision will be made, but what if that one has to wait an a year and a half or two years for a arbitration?

3527
04:31:58,440 --> 04:32:00,920
Do we continue to leave that position empty?

3528
04:32:01,560 --> 04:32:08,480
We have to we have to because if an arbitration resulted in having to take that person back

3529
04:32:08,480 --> 04:32:11,520
We have to have a position for him to go into I

3530
04:32:11,520 --> 04:32:15,300
Plus we have to pay for all the time. They were not yet work

3531
04:32:15,300 --> 04:32:19,580
So that money can't be said. Yeah, that's one less person that we have on the street

3532
04:32:19,600 --> 04:32:25,560
I thought get an arbitration. I don't know. I mean, how do you solve this problem in business?

3533
04:32:25,860 --> 04:32:27,320
You have to set the money aside?

3534
04:32:29,340 --> 04:32:30,680
Yeah, that's the problem.

3535
04:32:31,000 --> 04:32:38,280
Sure, if we can't allocate that money until this is settled to pay some of the else.

3536
04:32:39,300 --> 04:32:41,660
We could if we had that fund.

3537
04:32:43,760 --> 04:32:44,320
I know that.

3538
04:32:44,320 --> 04:32:44,820
The old fun.

3539
04:32:44,840 --> 04:32:47,520
I mean, that money tree and we'll fund it tomorrow.

3540
04:32:47,920 --> 04:32:48,460
Right, you check.

3541
04:32:48,800 --> 04:32:49,860
And we're trying it.

3542
04:32:50,360 --> 04:32:50,720
We're trying.

3543
04:32:50,960 --> 04:32:58,540
And that is just so you know, and the audience knows what was adopted in this year's budget,

3544
04:32:58,880 --> 04:33:04,280
does start to put money into that fund like it should have been doing for years.

3545
04:33:04,800 --> 04:33:10,060
You know, so we are definitely going to be in better shape, hopefully by the end of the year.

3546
04:33:10,060 --> 04:33:16,960
And then, if we can not have to tap into it too far, you know, hopefully it'll just continue to grow

3547
04:33:16,960 --> 04:33:23,060
to where it won't be a factor anymore, you know, when somebody retires or resigns.

3548
04:33:26,030 --> 04:33:27,750
But should have actually been closing or marketing.

3549
04:33:28,050 --> 04:33:29,770
I wasn't impressionally at open positions.

3550
04:33:30,090 --> 04:33:31,890
I would like to know if there are open positions.

3551
04:33:32,130 --> 04:33:32,970
So I'm going to share this office.

3552
04:33:33,250 --> 04:33:36,650
I will do my best to make sure that I know and then go from there.

3553
04:33:36,710 --> 04:33:39,250
So that's how I feel about this and I will, you know,

3554
04:33:42,990 --> 04:33:44,110
All right.

3555
04:33:48,700 --> 04:33:53,660
Yeah, let's can we finish this item and then take a break? I think we're clear.

3556
04:33:54,380 --> 04:33:56,600
Or are we frozen or not frozen?

3557
04:33:57,240 --> 04:34:02,160
You don't have any open position. If I have, if I have a position open tomorrow.

3558
04:34:02,700 --> 04:34:04,100
That's something totally different.

3559
04:34:04,640 --> 04:34:08,880
And turn an agenda item in and get it on the next available agenda.

3560
04:34:09,000 --> 04:34:12,660
I'm not going to get stopped. Turn over the little form. Whatever it is.

3561
04:34:14,720 --> 04:34:16,900
That's what I'm asking for is clarification.

3562
04:34:17,620 --> 04:34:19,340
We get it. It was confusing.

3563
04:34:19,940 --> 04:34:20,660
You're not wrong.

3564
04:34:20,660 --> 04:34:21,260
You're not wrong.

3565
04:34:22,440 --> 04:34:23,140
Thank you.

3566
04:34:23,200 --> 04:34:23,980
Thank you.

3567
04:34:25,040 --> 04:34:25,300
All right.

3568
04:34:25,840 --> 04:34:27,300
So let's take 10.

3569
04:34:45,740 --> 04:34:45,860
Oh.

3570
04:34:45,860 --> 04:34:46,220
Real good.

3571
04:34:48,730 --> 04:34:49,010
What?

3572
04:34:50,930 --> 04:34:51,290
Do you.

3573
04:34:54,320 --> 04:34:54,620
Please.

3574
04:34:54,960 --> 04:34:55,140
Can we?

3575
04:35:03,700 --> 04:35:06,200
Is that a flood camera?

3576
04:35:07,880 --> 04:35:13,340
Yeah, just set it up while we're on break. Just kidding. Just kidding.

3577
04:35:25,730 --> 04:35:29,510
All right, guys, let's get to number 20, please.

3578
04:35:33,480 --> 04:35:43,480
Item 20 presentation by Paul Lemus regarding water and property management, that the Ashmit is wildlife refuge, five minute time limit, and I want to bring to your attention.

3579
04:35:43,480 --> 04:35:46,040
Yeah, the video is over six minutes.

3580
04:35:46,280 --> 04:35:47,600
I already talked to Paul.

3581
04:35:47,860 --> 04:35:49,360
We're good.

3582
04:35:49,860 --> 04:35:50,900
OK, wait five minutes.

3583
04:35:51,220 --> 04:35:53,280
John, we'll start your timer whenever you're ready.

3584
04:35:53,840 --> 04:35:55,440
Yes, first thing I wanted to point out,

3585
04:35:55,460 --> 04:35:57,160
and I'm not going to be able to use this microphone app.

3586
04:35:59,420 --> 04:36:01,240
I have to be on.

3587
04:36:01,600 --> 04:36:02,940
You got to need a wireless one.

3588
04:36:03,420 --> 04:36:04,640
Let me see if I can switch on this one.

3589
04:36:05,060 --> 04:36:06,540
I'm going to swing this one a little bit.

3590
04:36:07,300 --> 04:36:09,380
OK, guys, so this is the important thing.

3591
04:36:09,700 --> 04:36:12,080
This is the proposed concept right now

3592
04:36:12,080 --> 04:36:14,260
for the national conservation area.

3593
04:36:14,260 --> 04:36:19,760
this is the mapping. And they're claiming that this could protect our land. But I want you to

3594
04:36:19,760 --> 04:36:25,120
look at the distinct factor. You see this bottom line right here, it's not straight, it's

3595
04:36:25,120 --> 04:36:30,880
wavy, it's curvy. That's a water line. That's also one of our main drainage lines in our

3596
04:36:30,880 --> 04:36:36,920
hydrological mapping. If you look at this drawing, yes ma'am. The chair is being asked by

3597
04:36:43,440 --> 04:36:48,980
I have emailed copies to all your emails, I believe, if not, I can get you one right

3598
04:36:48,980 --> 04:36:49,920
of Wacer.

3599
04:36:50,060 --> 04:36:52,040
Would you go with the presentation that you have?

3600
04:36:52,180 --> 04:36:57,940
Can I give you the presentation and then give back up to the presentation you have on

3601
04:36:57,940 --> 04:36:58,420
your laptop?

3602
04:36:58,600 --> 04:36:59,660
Yes, yes, yes, I can.

3603
04:37:00,680 --> 04:37:04,080
One last quick piece of the puzzle and then I'll cut right off.

3604
04:37:04,080 --> 04:37:08,100
because this is the main water line into Prump and Johnny Nevada.

3605
04:37:09,240 --> 04:37:13,200
So what they're trying to do is kind of encompass the land over even your guys in Prump

3606
04:37:13,200 --> 04:37:16,160
and Emma goes this water line and land.

3607
04:37:16,700 --> 04:37:21,880
Now, well, there's applications right now for just a proposal, the way it was written was

3608
04:37:21,880 --> 04:37:26,260
for a proposal, but they started acting after the proposal.

3609
04:37:26,360 --> 04:37:27,020
So we get into that.

3610
04:37:27,120 --> 04:37:27,680
I got to go ahead.

3611
04:37:27,680 --> 04:37:30,020
and take up. I thank you very much.

3612
04:37:30,320 --> 04:37:32,000
Please excuse me.

3613
04:37:32,620 --> 04:37:33,500
Thank you, Mr. Limis.

3614
04:37:34,880 --> 04:37:35,580
I'm just gonna talk.

3615
04:37:35,640 --> 04:37:37,200
There's really nothing to talk about.

3616
04:37:37,620 --> 04:37:39,480
I know we have four.

3617
04:37:39,740 --> 04:37:40,640
It's up.

3618
04:37:44,840 --> 04:37:46,880
These are the water lines right here in Ashmeadows,

3619
04:37:47,120 --> 04:37:49,000
where they're draining crystal reservoir now.

3620
04:37:49,340 --> 04:37:52,060
They're pumping it over the top and into and out into the valley.

3621
04:37:52,480 --> 04:37:55,080
It's going into outer course you right now.

3622
04:37:55,260 --> 04:37:57,340
We just left a lot of the fish and

3623
04:37:57,340 --> 04:37:59,200
and frogs internal dying on the ground.

3624
04:37:59,200 --> 04:38:03,940
as they don't know so much about into their outlook, right now.

3625
04:38:08,340 --> 04:38:15,500
And several conservancies that are all working together now, that the Conservancy Fund has hit for over 400 million.

3626
04:38:16,220 --> 04:38:22,420
There's been a lot of these conservancies all trying to group up and kind of come after some of the area where a protected lands are.

3627
04:38:22,420 --> 04:38:28,160
Right now, our area of our private properties, which we have a subdivision called Little Nevada Subdivision,

3628
04:38:28,300 --> 04:38:30,640
there's over 243 residential lots in there.

3629
04:38:30,880 --> 04:38:36,840
None of those owners were notified that they wanted to come in and put their in-combring map over our private properties.

3630
04:38:37,300 --> 04:38:40,920
I believe there's also something like 800 mining claims throughout that area.

3631
04:38:41,240 --> 04:38:43,020
None of those people have been notified yet.

3632
04:38:43,500 --> 04:38:52,400
So we're here today trying to just make you aware of what's going on and we're asking that you

3633
04:38:52,400 --> 04:39:00,320
Today, this is the Amargosa Conservancy that is applying right now, but the cease-indicist

3634
04:39:00,320 --> 04:39:05,700
letter that I've kind of wanted the commissioners to consider signing has cease-indicists

3635
04:39:05,700 --> 04:39:11,540
to all different conservancies and any new ones that step up with the same plan to try and

3636
04:39:11,540 --> 04:39:13,240
take our private properties and land.

3637
04:39:13,920 --> 04:39:17,500
So this would make them financially responsible, give us an instrument to record on our

3638
04:39:17,500 --> 04:39:18,880
deeds to protect our properties.

3639
04:39:18,880 --> 04:39:24,640
And so all we're trying to do is buy some time right now since we found out that this emergency is going on

3640
04:39:24,640 --> 04:39:26,340
Whatever's in that

3641
04:39:26,340 --> 04:39:33,040
Descientific doctors showed up on Saturday. There's definitely dust and contaminants in there since the water is out

3642
04:39:33,040 --> 04:39:40,340
That's went airborne. So a lot of the breathing things that we've been experiencing over the last year is could be an associated with this

3643
04:39:40,840 --> 04:39:46,620
Project that they're doing to kind of dismantle our ash meadows. They started with mud reservoir knocked that down

3644
04:39:47,220 --> 04:39:53,340
rerouted Peterson and cut it off through the Fuentesis property and then this is our old reservoir here

3645
04:39:53,340 --> 04:39:58,160
This what it used to look like how beautiful it was and then they're purposely draining it is the thing and this

3646
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:05,900
Audlife, and the fish. And then, as they dump it each time over and over, it just floods out into the desert, and

3647
04:40:05,900 --> 04:40:11,740
you're left seeing the dead fish on the ground, which will be here in a little bit. So, we've documented

3648
04:40:11,740 --> 04:40:18,200
all of this. We also have biologists. We have a full scientific truck that came out, they did air sniffer. They did

3649
04:40:18,200 --> 04:40:27,820
A soil samples, they did a radiation testing with the Giger counter, but the main thing associated

3650
04:40:27,820 --> 04:40:34,260
with this is the water's vested in the people under NRS 533, and it says in there that no

3651
04:40:34,260 --> 04:40:41,020
NCA or government should have any ownership of that water, ever. That's the law. The thing that's

3652
04:40:41,020 --> 04:40:46,420
important for staff today to consider is the violations that were made in the way this project

3653
04:40:46,420 --> 04:40:52,120
been submitted so far. It was only a presentation permission to do a presentation and now we're

3654
04:40:52,120 --> 04:40:58,660
looking at violation 241021, which is public scoping. The public scoping happened on June

3655
04:40:58,660 --> 04:41:07,060
11 and this was passed by the town board March 26. So they passed it to only do the presentation

3656
04:41:07,060 --> 04:41:13,160
but then move forward to ask the Board of County Commissioners to sign to approve the concept and

3657
04:41:13,160 --> 04:41:22,580
Proposal for it on May 5th, so then Jibor back that out on May 19th and said no, we're not going to move forward with this letter.

3658
04:41:22,960 --> 04:41:30,060
So they wanted to come to you and ask for a letter to basically have an excuse to come after our properties and move forward without the presentation.

3659
04:41:30,640 --> 04:41:35,700
I don't know why they're here to even talk against us because we haven't even given them permission yet to do the presentation.

3660
04:41:35,700 --> 04:41:40,500
and the public's coping had six people against it and only three for it.

3661
04:41:40,720 --> 04:41:45,060
So I think that the people have already spoken at that point and said that they do not want

3662
04:41:45,060 --> 04:41:46,700
the national conservation area.

3663
04:41:47,280 --> 04:41:49,160
We haven't notified any of those homeowners.

3664
04:41:49,640 --> 04:41:55,720
And it's a very risky situation to put them all at risk with eminent domain or possible

3665
04:41:55,720 --> 04:41:56,600
adverse possession.

3666
04:41:56,660 --> 04:42:02,020
Our job is county officials is to protect adverse couldn't possession claims for our people.

3667
04:42:02,020 --> 04:42:09,630
So 241-0 and 241-0-3-6 is what this board would be violating if we did not

3668
04:42:10,140 --> 04:42:19,960
Consider just avoiding it because 241 actually says it's avoided already by I'm doing the scoping backwards. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you

3669
04:42:19,960 --> 04:42:20,520
Okay

3670
04:42:23,400 --> 04:42:25,240
Now back to where we were

3671
04:42:25,800 --> 04:42:27,200
13 please

3672
04:42:30,540 --> 04:42:31,220
Hey

3673
04:42:31,220 --> 04:42:37,920
Hey, Paul, can you email me that video please so I can watch the whole thing?

3674
04:42:37,940 --> 04:42:38,660
Go ahead.

3675
04:42:39,040 --> 04:42:40,020
Just in

3676
04:42:45,720 --> 04:42:46,580
the last, okay.

3677
04:42:48,330 --> 04:42:49,110
Thank you.

3678
04:42:49,330 --> 04:42:49,890
13, please.

3679
04:42:50,770 --> 04:42:57,230
Item 13 for possible action, discussion in deliberation to adopt a men of the adopt or reject

3680
04:42:57,230 --> 04:43:04,870
Nikani resolution number 2026-16 resolution adopting the position evaluation policy.

3681
04:43:06,450 --> 04:43:09,170
Okay, thank you for that. Who's speaking on this one?

3682
04:43:10,790 --> 04:43:12,310
Mr. Chair, this is Lorraine.

3683
04:43:12,710 --> 04:43:13,170
Hi, Lorraine.

3684
04:43:14,110 --> 04:43:19,690
Hello. This item is already partially in place.

3685
04:43:19,750 --> 04:43:26,650
Over the years, the board has, they've approved the position justification form.

3686
04:43:27,170 --> 04:43:33,110
We've gone back and forth and it all is heavily contingent on our budget on whether or not

3687
04:43:33,110 --> 04:43:39,690
the approvals go through county manager just as director means mentioned earlier in an earlier

3688
04:43:39,690 --> 04:43:40,110
item.

3689
04:43:40,630 --> 04:43:46,710
Or they come back to the board as the county manager identified.

3690
04:43:47,030 --> 04:43:52,370
So that way the board is aware of our financials when it comes to these positions.

3691
04:43:53,870 --> 04:43:58,670
So this is just to add a couple more pieces to that justification.

3692
04:44:00,150 --> 04:44:00,750
Okay,

3693
04:44:04,320 --> 04:44:08,460
that's just the way we have anything for, what are the couple more pieces, please?

3694
04:44:09,640 --> 04:44:26,860
In the policy itself, so on page 1 of the actual policy, but it's page 6 of your actual item, there's a section 1.3 called required documentation.

3695
04:44:27,360 --> 04:44:32,240
And this is really focused on new positions that will come before the board,

3696
04:44:35,300 --> 04:44:43,880
but there can be data that could be requested of our department heads when they're requesting reclassifications, for example.

3697
04:44:49,060 --> 04:44:49,280
All right.

3698
04:44:49,400 --> 04:44:51,600
Let's see if we have any public comment on this item.

3699
04:44:51,780 --> 04:44:53,080
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

3700
04:44:55,800 --> 04:44:57,320
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

3701
04:44:57,700 --> 04:44:58,220
Please speak on the phone.

3702
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:00,980
Team for the record.

3703
04:45:04,250 --> 04:45:16,330
Oh, commissioners, Michael David first, the IGARC I had my volume okay with you this time. Yes, sir. Thank you, thank you, thank you, I appreciate that that's a good service there.

3704
04:45:16,650 --> 04:45:30,150
Cool. Anyhow, I just want to point out the elephant in the room, you know, the reduction side of your competition, you know, the hardest thing to do is to hit an administrative ego to breathe. Good luck with

3705
04:45:35,240 --> 04:45:36,220
it.

3706
04:45:37,720 --> 04:45:40,240
Sammy, you want to, are you ready?

3707
04:45:41,160 --> 04:45:41,960
Well, you're good.

3708
04:45:43,690 --> 04:45:47,390
Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, as a 30,

3709
04:45:47,990 --> 04:45:49,930
40, I don't know how many years now.

3710
04:45:50,270 --> 04:45:51,070
HR person.

3711
04:45:53,030 --> 04:45:53,350
Great.

3712
04:45:55,030 --> 04:45:55,410
Edition.

3713
04:45:56,130 --> 04:45:59,050
I think it should be used for every position that's current

3714
04:45:59,630 --> 04:46:04,310
in place as well as new positions so that you all can make the best decisions.

3715
04:46:04,790 --> 04:46:05,230
Thank you.

3716
04:46:05,230 --> 04:46:05,950
Thank you, Sammy.

3717
04:46:06,090 --> 04:46:06,910
Anybody on the phone, please?

3718
04:46:06,910 --> 04:46:09,410
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

3719
04:46:09,810 --> 04:46:11,330
Please, speak in the following name for the record.

3720
04:46:14,820 --> 04:46:24,400
I'm about in the B.O.HA in an early cost justification is always a requirement when we're talking about finance.

3721
04:46:26,480 --> 04:46:37,100
It's important to value that we gain from that is that the carbon heads and leaders are doing cost benefits, cost justification.

3722
04:46:38,000 --> 04:46:45,240
And while they're doing that, looking for efficiency, that often gets overlooked in many

3723
04:46:45,240 --> 04:46:46,240
miniseries.

3724
04:46:46,960 --> 04:46:53,970
But efficiency is how effective don't chop it so much where you can get the job done,

3725
04:46:54,470 --> 04:46:58,250
but the addition what you do, why isn't what you do.

3726
04:46:58,810 --> 04:46:59,890
And why is it?

3727
04:46:59,890 --> 04:47:00,510
And why is it?

3728
04:47:00,510 --> 04:47:01,100
And why is it?

3729
04:47:01,990 --> 04:47:02,890
And get us from there, March.

3730
04:47:04,750 --> 04:47:05,850
Come on down in front, please.

3731
04:47:10,480 --> 04:47:18,920
Angelina Jackson, JEC, KSON, and if I'm not mistaken, that's the HR director that is here.

3732
04:47:19,880 --> 04:47:25,880
If we could pull up transparent Nevada so we could see the salaries that are paid out.

3733
04:47:26,260 --> 04:47:37,260
And I think that we are all owed a explanation of why those salaries are paid out and to show the work that has been done by any of them.

3734
04:47:37,260 --> 04:47:49,260
We have, I don't know, how many people in B&G, yet there's nothing to show for any employee that's done work, there's no roads fixed, there's nothing, there's nothing to show for it.

3735
04:47:50,520 --> 04:48:05,780
And since we're talking about salaries, there needs to be somebody that's looking into this and that's just throwing money out and paying administrative assistance, 160,000 dollars a year.

3736
04:48:05,780 --> 04:48:10,940
And no, that's not the basis with their benefits package, but regardless, that's what it is.

3737
04:48:11,520 --> 04:48:17,640
It's showing that we have so many people working for the animal control, and whether it's with the kennels or whatever, it's still all combined.

3738
04:48:18,540 --> 04:48:23,480
But yet, we have two people, two of it, animal control officers.

3739
04:48:24,300 --> 04:48:27,720
You know, if you have one here, and then one in armor goes or whatever.

3740
04:48:29,140 --> 04:48:35,700
I would love to be able to pull that up for everybody, for somebody to explain to us what the salaries are being paid for.

3741
04:48:35,700 --> 04:48:43,320
And I think that we're owed that, instead of continuously asking us to get money, cut back those salaries, Mr. Wagner.

3742
04:48:45,020 --> 04:48:47,400
And don't, don't sit there and shake your head and laugh at me, sir.

3743
04:48:47,840 --> 04:48:49,280
This is fact.

3744
04:48:49,360 --> 04:48:51,760
This is your public comment. Why don't you use it?

3745
04:48:51,780 --> 04:48:52,740
I am.

3746
04:48:53,820 --> 04:48:54,700
I am.

3747
04:48:55,520 --> 04:48:58,220
But you keep dodging that and keep laughing at me when I bring it up.

3748
04:49:02,760 --> 04:49:03,220
And

3749
04:49:05,430 --> 04:49:08,030
by the way, just so we're clear on this,

3750
04:49:08,170 --> 04:49:11,050
there's been wage studies for Nye County,

3751
04:49:11,730 --> 04:49:14,470
comparing them with the other 16 counties in Nevada,

3752
04:49:16,290 --> 04:49:17,630
and you'd be amazed.

3753
04:49:17,770 --> 04:49:19,430
Do some research on that.

3754
04:49:19,790 --> 04:49:20,930
I'm not talking to like that.

3755
04:49:20,990 --> 04:49:21,670
We can't do that.

3756
04:49:21,690 --> 04:49:22,230
Go ahead, Linda.

3757
04:49:22,870 --> 04:49:23,770
I can talk after.

3758
04:49:23,990 --> 04:49:25,010
I'll talk to you after.

3759
04:49:27,340 --> 04:49:28,500
Thank you.

3760
04:49:29,020 --> 04:49:29,640
Linda Clark.

3761
04:49:31,620 --> 04:49:32,620
Okay, where do I start?

3762
04:49:33,280 --> 04:49:33,500
Okay.

3763
04:49:35,840 --> 04:49:37,360
I'm sorry, Deborah.

3764
04:49:38,260 --> 04:49:38,340
Yeah.

3765
04:49:38,340 --> 04:49:39,400
Tell it for the record.

3766
04:49:40,160 --> 04:49:41,080
You said lend a clerk.

3767
04:49:41,340 --> 04:49:42,300
See, L-A-R-K?

3768
04:49:43,740 --> 04:49:43,980
Okay.

3769
04:49:44,320 --> 04:49:45,660
It's so easy to spell.

3770
04:49:46,680 --> 04:49:46,960
Okay.

3771
04:49:53,080 --> 04:49:53,580
A fear.

3772
04:49:55,720 --> 04:49:57,980
That we're just going nowhere.

3773
04:49:59,340 --> 04:49:59,960
And where we're going?

3774
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:27,560
Is nowhere that no one wants to go. Does that make sense? We don't want to go where you're going. That's the best way to discover it. I feel like this county has been abused, overlooked, and put into a position where, well, I've already said this, we don't matter and you don't really listen to us and everything you do is for what you want to do.

3775
04:50:27,560 --> 04:50:30,940
And we're sitting here, twiddling our thumbs, thinking,

3776
04:50:31,880 --> 04:50:33,380
why do we deserve this?

3777
04:50:34,040 --> 04:50:35,120
We pay our taxes.

3778
04:50:35,840 --> 04:50:37,440
We're good people, right?

3779
04:50:37,780 --> 04:50:37,960
Yes.

3780
04:50:38,200 --> 04:50:39,140
We're good people.

3781
04:50:41,400 --> 04:50:44,180
And we deserve better than what we're getting.

3782
04:50:44,340 --> 04:50:46,100
I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

3783
04:50:48,240 --> 04:50:48,860
What, Deborah?

3784
04:50:49,280 --> 04:50:52,280
Does this have anything to do with the subject that we're talking about?

3785
04:50:52,340 --> 04:50:52,880
This resolution.

3786
04:50:53,600 --> 04:50:54,420
About your what?

3787
04:50:54,820 --> 04:50:55,840
The resolution, the agenda.

3788
04:50:58,220 --> 04:51:08,800
I thought you finished that with her. No, we're still in resolution. I'm number third. Okay, what was this again, because I ran into the bathroom and I didn't get that last part

3789
04:51:11,460 --> 04:51:13,440
remind me.

3790
04:51:13,520 --> 04:51:16,500
I can speak on it. I'll be happy to speak on it.

3791
04:51:16,500 --> 04:51:18,500
Is the time up?

3792
04:51:19,280 --> 04:51:19,820
I sure.

3793
04:51:20,200 --> 04:51:21,220
Just to hold held it.

3794
04:51:21,580 --> 04:51:24,900
This is the adoption of the resolution 2026-16.

3795
04:51:25,600 --> 04:51:26,800
And what was the resolution for?

3796
04:51:27,820 --> 04:51:29,540
The position evaluation policy?

3797
04:51:31,340 --> 04:51:32,480
Division resolution?

3798
04:51:33,300 --> 04:51:35,380
Position evaluation policy?

3799
04:51:36,180 --> 04:51:37,320
Or the people that work here?

3800
04:51:37,720 --> 04:51:38,000
Yes.

3801
04:51:39,080 --> 04:51:40,680
Okay, yeah, we probably need that.

3802
04:51:43,090 --> 04:51:43,530
Badly.

3803
04:51:46,700 --> 04:51:50,080
Same to everybody on the calling thing.

3804
04:51:52,120 --> 04:51:54,560
We're going to close public comment.

3805
04:51:56,380 --> 04:51:56,980
Commissars?

3806
04:51:59,090 --> 04:52:02,870
You are like to make a motion to adopt resolution number 2026-16.

3807
04:52:03,750 --> 04:52:05,210
Motion second all of us in favor.

3808
04:52:06,390 --> 04:52:06,510
Aye.

3809
04:52:07,130 --> 04:52:07,310
Aye.

3810
04:52:08,210 --> 04:52:08,730
Five zero.

3811
04:52:08,950 --> 04:52:09,810
Thank you 14 please.

3812
04:52:12,620 --> 04:52:17,120
And I'm 14 for possible action discussion in deliberation to a.

3813
04:52:17,380 --> 04:52:21,300
Approver reject the addition of one part time no benefits fleet driver.

3814
04:52:21,300 --> 04:52:25,260
in B fund from 101-01 general fund.

3815
04:52:25,560 --> 04:52:27,380
All right, and I will be speaking to this.

3816
04:52:27,380 --> 04:52:28,340
Perfect public comment.

3817
04:52:28,580 --> 04:52:29,820
Sam, are we having anybody on the phone, please?

3818
04:52:31,140 --> 04:52:32,080
I'm sorry, Steven.

3819
04:52:33,740 --> 04:52:34,340
Go to here.

3820
04:52:34,520 --> 04:52:35,320
Come on up.

3821
04:52:37,160 --> 04:52:39,080
Steven Pippman, P-I-T-M-A-N.

3822
04:52:39,600 --> 04:52:43,660
On the agenda item request forum, there's slight confusion for me.

3823
04:52:43,660 --> 04:52:46,720
It says, approve or reject edition of one part-time,

3824
04:52:46,800 --> 04:52:49,500
no benefit, sleep driver in the description.

3825
04:52:49,500 --> 04:52:55,980
And it says, a salary and then benefits, I will explain that.

3826
04:52:57,160 --> 04:52:57,880
Thank you.

3827
04:52:57,880 --> 04:52:57,900
Thank you.

3828
04:52:58,520 --> 04:52:59,780
Sam, anybody on the phone please?

3829
04:52:59,920 --> 04:53:00,340
No chair.

3830
04:53:00,580 --> 04:53:01,660
Come on up, Beth.

3831
04:53:05,810 --> 04:53:07,390
I always have to pull this down.

3832
04:53:08,070 --> 04:53:14,090
Beth for Savage B.O.R.I.I.C.W.I.C.H. First of all, I think that when it gets this

3833
04:53:14,090 --> 04:53:19,550
time of the day, we should start putting some lavender through the air, something else,

3834
04:53:19,610 --> 04:53:20,750
you know, to calm a citrus.

3835
04:53:20,750 --> 04:53:30,930
you know, just, that would be really good. Well, we could drink, but anyway, okay, so here's what I think you should do.

3836
04:53:33,770 --> 04:53:41,110
Fund 10101. You should not touch that for the next six months, period.

3837
04:53:43,670 --> 04:53:46,230
The part-time fleet driver,

3838
04:53:46,230 --> 04:53:50,220
What department is he for, or is he for all of, you know,

3839
04:53:51,650 --> 04:53:55,930
Nik County, and whatever, wherever he's coming from,

3840
04:53:56,370 --> 04:53:57,810
that is who should pay.

3841
04:53:58,090 --> 04:54:02,030
If it's different departments, then it should be each department

3842
04:54:02,030 --> 04:54:07,210
and not 101. 101. 101 should be off limits,

3843
04:54:07,650 --> 04:54:11,870
unless there's an absolutely horrendous emergency.

3844
04:54:12,970 --> 04:54:14,250
So what I got to say, thanks.

3845
04:54:14,250 --> 04:54:16,530
Thank you, Sam, everybody on the phone, please.

3846
04:54:18,910 --> 04:54:20,290
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

3847
04:54:20,710 --> 04:54:22,090
Please speak in the name for the record.

3848
04:54:25,550 --> 04:54:28,790
Well, Commissioner, it's Michael David, Garcia, GA, RCA.

3849
04:54:29,850 --> 04:54:32,550
And I'm just kind of curious the way you're hiding this language

3850
04:54:32,550 --> 04:54:36,690
in the way you shuffle the budget to round with the accounts.

3851
04:54:37,470 --> 04:54:40,930
I think that it's the collective bargaining agreement.

3852
04:54:42,550 --> 04:54:45,510
There are another half, it's mission when it comes to reclassifying

3853
04:54:48,110 --> 04:54:53,770
It's just for that driver to go up and back or forth to tone and fall, but it's just closed

3854
04:54:53,770 --> 04:54:58,550
tone and fall down, and then we say 2.4 million and reoccurring costs turn up.

3855
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:05,640
Just to seek down here and form where it belongs. It's crazy. Our county don't have their seat

3856
04:55:05,640 --> 04:55:14,120
out in the ski. It's a saving money. It's transparency. You're hiding the agenda item by not even

3857
04:55:14,120 --> 04:55:21,380
articulate what it's for. Thank you. Thank you. 300,000 a year. That's what that'll get you

3858
04:55:23,780 --> 04:55:24,200
done?

3859
04:55:34,730 --> 04:55:35,290
Angelina

3860
04:55:35,290 --> 04:55:42,210
it for. And it's probably in the description but unfortunately my phone died. So I don't

3861
04:55:42,210 --> 04:55:47,150
understand probably more helpful to everybody if that was printed out as well as the

3862
04:55:47,150 --> 04:55:52,290
agenda. Could you let us know what the fleet driver is for?

3863
04:55:52,770 --> 04:55:54,790
Doesn't look in the back up?

3864
04:55:55,050 --> 04:55:58,530
Yeah, I will give. Okay, sorry, sorry. I'm sorry.

3865
04:55:58,870 --> 04:56:02,390
I'm sorry. Oh, it's hard to comment on something. I know.

3866
04:56:02,970 --> 04:56:04,450
So it's kind of backwards there.

3867
04:56:04,450 --> 04:56:05,050
It's backwards.

3868
04:56:05,330 --> 04:56:07,750
So can we come back up after we're more informed?

3869
04:56:07,890 --> 04:56:08,550
Probably not.

3870
04:56:08,650 --> 04:56:10,390
I think since our minutes have already been cut down

3871
04:56:10,390 --> 04:56:12,210
in two minutes and there's only like 20 of us here.

3872
04:56:12,390 --> 04:56:15,610
So Clark has no comment on any item other than three minutes

3873
04:56:15,610 --> 04:56:18,190
in the beginning and three minutes at the end.

3874
04:56:18,350 --> 04:56:18,410
Here.

3875
04:56:20,310 --> 04:56:22,690
My question is pertaining to this particular agenda

3876
04:56:22,690 --> 04:56:24,250
that you guys have not informed us of

3877
04:56:24,250 --> 04:56:25,590
and you're going to tell us after the fact

3878
04:56:25,590 --> 04:56:27,530
after we've already been up for public comment.

3879
04:56:27,910 --> 04:56:29,570
So how are we supposed to make an informative

3880
04:56:30,470 --> 04:56:32,930
comment without having all the information.

3881
04:56:37,660 --> 04:56:40,040
I'm trying not to interrupt her. Well, I'm

3882
04:56:40,040 --> 04:56:42,540
pausing for an answer. Well, your time is running.

3883
04:56:44,560 --> 04:56:46,140
Well, I, I like to let you work

3884
04:56:46,140 --> 04:56:51,600
that. You're, you're, you're, you're good. Well, thank you. Come on up, Susie.

3885
04:56:54,470 --> 04:56:55,530
Okay, so I'll

3886
04:56:55,530 --> 04:57:04,390
ask the co-hostion. I'll make the comment. I have the backup. I read the part-time

3887
04:57:04,390 --> 04:57:12,510
person for a fleet driver and I read the section that talks about benefits and other total

3888
04:57:12,510 --> 04:57:17,210
costs which Brett has already interrupted and said he will explain.

3889
04:57:18,170 --> 04:57:23,250
Well, there's no explanation as to what this person is, what department they're coming

3890
04:57:23,250 --> 04:57:28,210
from, what their job is, there's no backup for it.

3891
04:57:28,210 --> 04:57:36,670
So we're all without information, you're without it too, unless you already know what it is.

3892
04:57:37,230 --> 04:57:54,090
But once again, the information that's put together for us to determine and evaluate as the public during these meetings or at any other time if we choose to email you or call you isn't there.

3893
04:57:54,090 --> 04:58:03,450
So please answer the question after our public comments so that we could know that in the future it'd be nice to know it before the public comments

3894
04:58:03,450 --> 04:58:06,250
So we have something valid to say

3895
04:58:06,250 --> 04:58:07,170
Thank you

3896
04:58:07,170 --> 04:58:08,370
Thank you, Sam anybody on the phone,

3897
04:58:11,280 --> 04:58:11,280
please

3898
04:58:11,280 --> 04:58:14,960
Yes, Chair the caller is unmuted please speak and spell your name for the record

3899
04:58:14,960 --> 04:58:15,600
All

3900
04:58:23,830 --> 04:58:28,190
right, we're gonna close public. Oh, wait. Do you have any more and deal the caller is unmuted?

3901
04:58:28,230 --> 04:58:30,330
Please speak and spell your name for the record

3902
04:58:32,540 --> 04:58:38,500
Yeah, it's a good thing you guys didn't hang up there because otherwise I thought I was going to have to write another one out of the list.

3903
04:58:39,340 --> 04:58:41,140
Bruce Johnson, jailweight, that's a win.

3904
04:58:42,080 --> 04:58:47,300
You know, these last two speakers, your raise a very valid question to you guys.

3905
04:58:47,800 --> 04:58:50,480
And this question has been raised to you guys in the past.

3906
04:58:51,240 --> 04:58:54,640
Seems to be the way that you guys set up doing your business here.

3907
04:58:55,620 --> 04:58:59,020
And I don't really think that's acceptable to the people.

3908
04:59:00,400 --> 04:59:04,540
It's more to the benefit of you guys than that to the benefit of the people.

3909
04:59:05,400 --> 04:59:08,380
And so I think we have a conflict of interest here.

3910
04:59:09,440 --> 04:59:13,680
So I'm going to nicely ask you guys or instruct you actually.

3911
04:59:14,040 --> 04:59:15,360
And I'll follow who's up as a notice.

3912
04:59:16,200 --> 04:59:18,580
To make them correct and hit the process please.

3913
04:59:19,020 --> 04:59:20,020
Thank you.

3914
04:59:20,720 --> 04:59:23,380
Sam, do everybody else would like to instruct me?

3915
04:59:24,480 --> 04:59:24,880
No chair.

3916
04:59:24,880 --> 04:59:28,600
closing public comment. Go ahead, manager.

3917
04:59:29,360 --> 04:59:29,840
Excuse me.

3918
04:59:30,960 --> 04:59:31,720
So,

3919
04:59:34,280 --> 04:59:37,900
what we've discovered since we had the fleet driver retire.

3920
04:59:38,700 --> 04:59:41,700
He was funded entirely out of buildings and grounds.

3921
04:59:42,320 --> 04:59:44,700
It was a service to many different departments.

3922
04:59:46,840 --> 04:59:52,880
One of the big issues I was noticed is there is sometimes sensitive documents

3923
04:59:52,880 --> 04:59:58,380
documents that need to be brought back and forth for the clerk's office and then for the justice.

3924
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:24,160
There is other documents that, you know, other departments you lies. But as far as the benefits, like I asked the same question, because actually Commissioner Conegasme, because when I had gotten the estimate from HR, it was just a whole number of 25,123.

3925
05:00:24,160 --> 05:00:29,980
But we do still have to pay, sold security, we have to pay workers' comp, we have to pay.

3926
05:00:30,580 --> 05:00:36,480
Those types of costs that are mandated, and that's what that $3,314 is.

3927
05:00:37,160 --> 05:00:47,000
So the salary is $20.99, 21, 808, and 61 cents, and then you add those other costs.

3928
05:00:47,020 --> 05:00:50,140
That's where we come up with the $25.23.

3929
05:00:50,140 --> 05:00:58,680
And what I am proposing is that this get borne by the departments that utilize this service.

3930
05:00:59,940 --> 05:01:06,240
So it isn't just a direct cost to one single department, like it was, with buildings and grounds.

3931
05:01:06,940 --> 05:01:09,360
We were trying to help their budget.

3932
05:01:11,600 --> 05:01:17,520
The other part of it is, we did use to have the school district that was involved in it.

3933
05:01:17,520 --> 05:01:23,460
is no longer going to be the case. Well, we're proposing is a two-day, a week fleet service,

3934
05:01:24,040 --> 05:01:33,060
Tuesdays and Thursdays. They are going to use a fleet vehicle out of our pool to check out for

3935
05:01:33,060 --> 05:01:37,280
the day and check back in each of those two days. We're not going to have to buy a new vehicle.

3936
05:01:37,980 --> 05:01:43,580
We're not going to have to be driving a truck back and forth that used to get like nine or 13 miles

3937
05:01:43,580 --> 05:01:47,800
to the gallon, we'll be driving something that will get 35 miles to the gallon.

3938
05:01:48,780 --> 05:01:53,460
We're not going to be hauling cars or that kind of stuff that will be handled by that

3939
05:01:53,460 --> 05:01:59,620
department themselves, but we will be able to take all the parts, you know, stuff that

3940
05:01:59,620 --> 05:02:01,460
will fit in a regular passenger car.

3941
05:02:02,540 --> 05:02:05,480
So again, alleviate and spread this out.

3942
05:02:05,900 --> 05:02:09,980
A lot of people I heard from the comments, they don't realize every single department with

3943
05:02:09,980 --> 05:02:16,960
exception of special revenue departments like road department are all paid out of the general fund.

3944
05:02:17,600 --> 05:02:23,260
So including buildings and grounds so it's not that we're changing a funding source but instead

3945
05:02:23,260 --> 05:02:30,140
having it all hit one department we're looking at hitting you know the five or six different

3946
05:02:30,140 --> 05:02:37,100
departments with like a five four to five thousand dollar cost for the service

3947
05:02:39,560 --> 05:02:40,580
and it's

3948
05:02:40,580 --> 05:02:48,800
And it is a vital service for mainly for the courts and the DA's office utilizes a little

3949
05:02:48,800 --> 05:02:55,440
lot because again they have time sensitive documents that have to be up when courts in session.

3950
05:02:59,380 --> 05:03:00,120
Mr. Scott anything?

3951
05:03:01,700 --> 05:03:02,120
Make a motion.

3952
05:03:02,500 --> 05:03:03,000
Yes, ship.

3953
05:03:03,400 --> 05:03:03,740
Go ahead.

3954
05:03:04,140 --> 05:03:05,360
Thank you.

3955
05:03:05,360 --> 05:03:06,480
Thank you, manager.

3956
05:03:08,040 --> 05:03:09,800
To help clarify please.

3957
05:03:09,800 --> 05:03:18,060
And we have Justice Court in BAD, so that would this include a stop in BAD for their mail or deliveries?

3958
05:03:19,880 --> 05:03:23,200
It's going to be one trip up and one trip back a day.

3959
05:03:23,720 --> 05:03:33,340
And it'll have scheduled stops, you know, which will include a few here in Peromp and then obviously BAD and then Tonopo.

3960
05:03:35,000 --> 05:03:44,360
Okay, so wherever there's a stop they will be required to to incur some of the some of the costs correct.

3961
05:03:45,560 --> 05:03:48,200
Okay, thank you.

3962
05:03:48,200 --> 05:03:49,180
Thank you, Commissioner.

3963
05:03:51,600 --> 05:03:52,800
Don't agree to the right.

3964
05:03:53,220 --> 05:03:57,080
I'll make a motion to approve the addition of one part time.

3965
05:03:57,160 --> 05:03:58,640
A little better if it's fleet driver.

3966
05:04:00,320 --> 05:04:03,700
And fun from how do you want to work that?

3967
05:04:06,270 --> 05:04:12,010
It'll be fun from 101-01 with the exception of the road department.

3968
05:04:12,630 --> 05:04:19,290
We will be able to charge some to the road department for the equipment shops for anything

3969
05:04:19,290 --> 05:04:20,350
we run for them.

3970
05:04:21,750 --> 05:04:25,190
And I can't remember what one was going to want to come out of there.

3971
05:04:25,370 --> 05:04:26,930
How are you going to split it up?

3972
05:04:27,330 --> 05:04:34,510
It's going to get added to the departmental budget for the service and supplies, whatever it

3973
05:04:34,510 --> 05:04:40,910
fall yeah that to the funding yeah it'll be split and I can tell you the list of the

3974
05:04:40,910 --> 05:04:46,750
departments all the guys I did bring that in here but if you want to specify

3975
05:04:46,750 --> 05:04:50,810
which departments we can do yeah we'll do it

3976
05:04:50,810 --> 05:04:55,710
yes second two board seconds we have a motion in two seconds all doesn't

3977
05:04:55,710 --> 05:04:56,590
Hi.

3978
05:04:57,890 --> 05:04:58,110
Hi.

3979
05:05:02,220 --> 05:05:08,700
All right, can we do all of these together? Can we open them all together?

3980
05:05:11,380 --> 05:05:15,620
All right, we're going to open them all together, 15, 16, 17, 18.

3981
05:05:16,100 --> 05:05:23,500
All right, item 15 report by Zina, regarding the budget status for the fourth quarter of fiscal year,

3982
05:05:24,460 --> 05:05:33,760
for 9 County and all 7 entities pursuant to NRS 354.290 and I'm 16 for possible action.

3983
05:05:34,240 --> 05:05:40,760
Discussion, deliberation and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2026 financial update.

3984
05:05:41,500 --> 05:05:50,660
Direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of the tax dollars.

3985
05:05:50,660 --> 05:06:18,780
Item 17 for possible action discussion and deliberation and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2027 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of tax dollars and item 18 for possible action discussion deliberation and direction to staff on cost saving measures to require department ahead approval on overtime.

3986
05:06:20,260 --> 05:06:35,760
Okay, I'm going to talk about fiscal 26 first, and then I'll go in, I'm sorry, so 1516 and 18.

3987
05:06:36,160 --> 05:06:39,240
Those are the three that I will speak to first.

3988
05:06:40,540 --> 05:06:49,860
Item 15 is a requirement for NRS for us to report every quarter, the results, the budget and the actual.

3989
05:06:49,860 --> 05:07:00,300
So the results that we have for the fourth quarter includes the full year, up to the point where we've closed accounts payable.

3990
05:07:00,920 --> 05:07:04,160
We still need to do our year-end accruals.

3991
05:07:04,200 --> 05:07:06,540
We still need to do account analysis.

3992
05:07:07,120 --> 05:07:12,960
We need to look at our balance sheet to see that our assets and liabilities have been reconciled.

3993
05:07:12,960 --> 05:07:22,920
And then also to do a revenue and expenditure analysis to compare current year and a prior year to look for appropriateness.

3994
05:07:24,500 --> 05:07:28,300
So a couple of things I'd like to point out.

3995
05:07:28,860 --> 05:07:35,080
As of the time of this report, we did not have the C tax payment for June.

3996
05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:39,680
And at this point, our revenues are better than budget.

3997
05:07:41,710 --> 05:07:45,010
So, no, we're not losing money. We're not in the deficit.

3998
05:07:46,810 --> 05:07:53,070
Right now, the way that it looks, we are, but we will be at the end of the year.

3999
05:07:53,550 --> 05:07:58,710
It looks very promising. I am not going to say that until the audit report is done,

4000
05:07:58,750 --> 05:08:08,790
and I have the audit report in my hands, because the auditor can come up with any type of adjustment that is unexpected.

4001
05:08:08,790 --> 05:08:33,210
But the way it looks, it's very promising, so that takes care of item 15, and at the back the very last page of item 15 is a report of unusual items, so that as reference to talk about revenues and expenditures,

4002
05:08:33,210 --> 05:08:51,170
We've also have recognized an increase in tax penalties, and we deserve a big shout-out to the assessor and the Treasury Department for getting on the phone and making calls for delinquent taxes.

4003
05:08:53,980 --> 05:09:00,310
So, that takes care of item 15,

4004
05:09:06,820 --> 05:09:13,360
I'd like to talk a few items on item 16, item 16 is basically the financial update.

4005
05:09:14,200 --> 05:09:28,460
So, because we implemented cost saving measures and we restricted our spending for the past four months since the end of May,

4006
05:09:29,940 --> 05:09:40,220
Our revenues, excluding our last month, we're still trying to get, we still have the C tax and some other adjustments.

4007
05:09:40,880 --> 05:09:49,560
Our revenues are coming in at $57 million, and our expenditures are coming in at $50, almost $59 million.

4008
05:09:49,560 --> 05:09:59,960
So, the deficit right now sits at $1.7 million, but that is before the final pay.

4009
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:07,000
C tax, which typically is historically, has been around one and a half to $2 million.

4010
05:10:07,880 --> 05:10:11,940
And what was the deficit when we started these cost saving efforts?

4011
05:10:12,220 --> 05:10:21,400
So back in April, we were forecasting a deficit of $7.5 million.

4012
05:10:23,780 --> 05:10:32,840
So it's because of the cost saving measures and also the majority part is because of the better than budget revenues.

4013
05:10:34,700 --> 05:10:36,710
The revenues really saved us.

4014
05:10:41,600 --> 05:10:49,820
So the last piece of items of fiscal 26, actually, let me open it up for questions.

4015
05:10:49,820 --> 05:10:55,380
if anybody has questions on the financials, and then I'll talk about the one-course saving

4016
05:10:55,380 --> 05:10:58,700
measure that I have, which is on overtime.

4017
05:11:00,420 --> 05:11:04,120
Thank you, Mr. Mr. Bore, or Bain, do you guys have anything for Zena right now?

4018
05:11:06,480 --> 05:11:07,760
Chair, I'm waiting for overtime.

4019
05:11:08,000 --> 05:11:08,660
Sure, thank you.

4020
05:11:08,940 --> 05:11:09,040
Gotcha.

4021
05:11:13,560 --> 05:11:15,140
Okay, so then I'll talk about overtime.

4022
05:11:16,800 --> 05:11:23,260
So back in the end of May, Board of County Commissioners, you gave direction that all

4023
05:11:23,260 --> 05:11:28,560
over time had to be pre-approved or actually had to be approved by department heads.

4024
05:11:31,280 --> 05:11:38,040
So we took a look at over time for the month of June.

4025
05:11:39,140 --> 05:11:46,760
And just so you know we're going to be coming back every couple of months to be talking about the improvements that are being done on overtime.

4026
05:11:47,720 --> 05:11:58,540
As you know, or not know, maybe not as clear, over time was not a budgeted item in our fiscal 27 budget.

4027
05:12:00,300 --> 05:12:09,300
So, we took a look at the policy and the HR policy has a couple of components to it.

4028
05:12:09,300 --> 05:12:19,580
So people can earn comp time, as long as it's within their, unless there is a difference in the collective bargaining agreement.

4029
05:12:21,980 --> 05:12:28,540
The policy requires what theization in advance before the employee can work over time.

4030
05:12:29,540 --> 05:12:38,580
There is an exception that firefighters, their over time is built in to their collective

4031
05:12:38,580 --> 05:12:39,580
bargaining agreements.

4032
05:12:40,060 --> 05:12:43,340
So we don't have much say in that over time.

4033
05:12:43,660 --> 05:12:45,060
It's part of their schedule.

4034
05:12:48,180 --> 05:12:55,620
So we sent out an email in the beginning of August asking department heads to provide the

4035
05:12:55,620 --> 05:13:02,600
support for their overtime, the documented support approving it. And as you can see on the

4036
05:13:02,600 --> 05:13:15,210
back up, we have 12 departments that had overtime in the month of June. Of the 12 departments,

4037
05:13:17,340 --> 05:13:24,450
most of them complied with the policy and the direction from the commissioners to approve

4038
05:13:24,450 --> 05:13:34,190
over time. We have a few departments that issued a blanket over time memo to the finance

4039
05:13:34,190 --> 05:13:41,330
department and that blanket over time memo was dated after the overtime was paid.

4040
05:13:43,390 --> 05:13:45,630
So I met

4041
05:13:45,630 --> 05:13:54,890
with HR payroll and to come up with suggestions on how we can tighten that area.

4042
05:13:56,430 --> 05:14:06,370
And then since the policy related only to the county side, we do have one department

4043
05:14:06,370 --> 05:14:12,710
that actually charges both the county and the town and that's animal services.

4044
05:14:12,710 --> 05:14:19,850
So in your backup I include the town of Perumps so that you can see the total cost of animal

4045
05:14:19,850 --> 05:14:21,710
services over time.

4046
05:14:24,460 --> 05:14:27,640
So now if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

4047
05:14:28,260 --> 05:14:28,920
I'm going to start your board.

4048
05:14:31,180 --> 05:14:33,680
Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Zena, for that.

4049
05:14:39,060 --> 05:14:42,260
As one of the policies that you mentioned,

4050
05:14:44,930 --> 05:14:50,650
that employees must receive approval in advance.

4051
05:14:51,910 --> 05:14:55,050
is not conducive to

4052
05:14:57,800 --> 05:14:59,040
the last hour.

4053
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:11,600
Our minutes of people's shifts, especially first responders, for example. I'm not being the clerks,

4054
05:15:11,600 --> 05:15:17,380
not being the clerks attorney. We have that position already filled. He's actually here in

4055
05:15:17,380 --> 05:15:28,100
Toronto, but I would assume that the overtime for June under the clerks category had to do specifically

4056
05:15:28,100 --> 05:15:29,640
with the primary election.

4057
05:15:35,280 --> 05:15:40,520
I know that I said at the last meeting that this came up is for

4058
05:15:40,520 --> 05:15:41,980
his cost-saving measures,

4059
05:15:44,200 --> 05:15:51,360
that department heads were required to approve, were required to approve

4060
05:15:51,360 --> 05:15:57,820
all over time. And I believe that's happened and looking at the chart, there's 11 of what I

4061
05:15:57,820 --> 05:16:00,740
that's it, women departments of what I counted.

4062
05:16:01,940 --> 05:16:05,620
And the biggest offender of overtime,

4063
05:16:06,500 --> 05:16:10,100
and not in a negative way, is the sheriff's office.

4064
05:16:10,920 --> 05:16:13,180
But that's historic, that's a historic number,

4065
05:16:14,340 --> 05:16:15,000
and an activity.

4066
05:16:16,540 --> 05:16:20,760
But I would ask the commissioners to consider

4067
05:16:22,820 --> 05:16:27,620
that at this time to continue the momentum of approved

4068
05:16:27,620 --> 05:16:35,720
over time is that there is no over time whatsoever. And if there is any over time

4069
05:16:37,000 --> 05:16:44,920
incurred, a type of justification form with an explanation must accompany the approved payroll

4070
05:16:45,500 --> 05:16:53,500
for any and all pay periods. Not just having the department had approved the over time

4071
05:16:53,500 --> 05:17:01,140
because they weren't even there, for example, but they were told that, oh, I had to do

4072
05:17:01,140 --> 05:17:07,680
overtime. Okay, it's approved. They say it. They log it. It has to be paid.

4073
05:17:10,280 --> 05:17:10,820
I believe

4074
05:17:10,820 --> 05:17:17,460
there should be a justification type form, as I mentioned, with a full explanation of why

4075
05:17:17,460 --> 05:17:24,240
they're incurring overtime. And that's submitted to payroll. That's a military HR, and

4076
05:17:24,240 --> 05:17:27,840
That's under review by the HR director and also the county manager.

4077
05:17:32,410 --> 05:17:38,710
And I'm certain that there will be times that those justification forms will be challenged

4078
05:17:41,370 --> 05:17:47,650
and that will eliminate some most over time in the future.

4079
05:17:52,770 --> 05:17:57,950
So again, I'd ask the commissioners to please consider that under this number 18 agenda is

4080
05:18:00,790 --> 05:18:02,990
I'll turn it back over to you, Chair.

4081
05:18:03,990 --> 05:18:04,430
Thank you, sir.

4082
05:18:04,930 --> 05:18:09,490
So, that would be in, yeah, direction of the staff.

4083
05:18:09,570 --> 05:18:12,230
To include Mr. Dr. Bores.

4084
05:18:13,250 --> 05:18:13,770
Direction.

4085
05:18:14,290 --> 05:18:14,550
Correct?

4086
05:18:14,910 --> 05:18:15,630
Go ahead, see you, sir.

4087
05:18:20,850 --> 05:18:23,590
Are we okay to talk about fiscal questions?

4088
05:18:24,070 --> 05:18:25,210
Sorry, Mr. May.

4089
05:18:27,070 --> 05:18:32,110
My question is, I don't, I want to put pressure on the talent, but is it, is it?

4090
05:18:32,110 --> 05:18:34,810
is a way to make the town do the same thing just for consistency

4091
05:18:34,810 --> 05:18:36,290
for over time.

4092
05:18:36,610 --> 05:18:37,330
I think she'll be everybody.

4093
05:18:40,110 --> 05:18:40,890
That's my question.

4094
05:18:41,190 --> 05:18:41,650
Is that okay?

4095
05:18:41,890 --> 05:18:44,150
I would agree with that commissioner,

4096
05:18:45,670 --> 05:18:48,910
because we do have, for instance, our buildings and grounds

4097
05:18:48,910 --> 05:18:53,810
that we're looking at that as considerable over time.

4098
05:18:54,170 --> 05:18:57,850
And we're trying to evaluate if it's a scheduling issue

4099
05:18:57,850 --> 05:18:58,650
or what it is.

4100
05:18:59,330 --> 05:19:03,210
But I definitely would agree with that.

4101
05:19:03,210 --> 05:19:06,410
How do we how do we make that happen to vote on it or can just do it?

4102
05:19:07,130 --> 05:19:09,710
They would go in direction, right?

4103
05:19:10,530 --> 05:19:11,890
Good direction to staff.

4104
05:19:13,250 --> 05:19:14,830
Direction directions noted.

4105
05:19:15,490 --> 05:19:18,210
We're including first responders in all of that.

4106
05:19:18,970 --> 05:19:23,850
Now, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell a fire guy that's out in the middle of a house fire.

4107
05:19:24,290 --> 05:19:25,070
You've got to go.

4108
05:19:25,270 --> 05:19:25,830
You've got to go.

4109
05:19:26,030 --> 05:19:31,130
So that is, so fire is collective bargaining agreement.

4110
05:19:31,130 --> 05:19:38,430
their schedule, which we have chief here. He can talk to the schedule. It's automatically

4111
05:19:38,430 --> 05:19:40,570
at part of their schedule.

4112
05:19:42,730 --> 05:19:51,370
They work two days on one day off. So it's built into their weekly,

4113
05:19:51,370 --> 05:19:54,110
they're bi-weekly pay.

4114
05:19:54,850 --> 05:19:55,050
Okay.

4115
05:19:56,310 --> 05:19:57,570
What else you got for us?

4116
05:19:59,540 --> 05:19:59,920
That was it.

4117
05:20:00,000 --> 05:20:03,440
Okay. Councillor Cullis, I'm sorry.

4118
05:20:03,640 --> 05:20:04,300
Sorry, I had a commissioner.

4119
05:20:05,260 --> 05:20:08,020
Just a really quick, and this might be, I'd get back to me thing.

4120
05:20:08,280 --> 05:20:10,680
I'm looking at the sheriff's numbers, and I think the commissioner's

4121
05:20:10,680 --> 05:20:13,300
Board was kind of talking about, and I'm not trying to open up a

4122
05:20:13,300 --> 05:20:18,640
won't hear another bad thing, but 33,000, that's dollars in over time.

4123
05:20:18,820 --> 05:20:20,800
What is that out? Was it 33,000 dollars?

4124
05:20:21,060 --> 05:20:23,440
That is $30,000, yes.

4125
05:20:24,060 --> 05:20:27,860
And if we're doing that a month, that'd be like 300,000, that's approximately two

4126
05:20:27,860 --> 05:20:34,080
I mean, I like to just hear the finance directors opinion of this because otherwise it's going to turn political.

4127
05:20:35,320 --> 05:20:42,340
Why not just like maybe swap that out for like one full-time deputy? Is there a fiscal reason why you don't want to do that?

4128
05:20:42,820 --> 05:20:51,800
I believe you have to look at their schedule and that would be a question for the sheriff or for the finance manager to talk about how these schedule their staff.

4129
05:20:52,760 --> 05:20:57,920
So the concern is that it's a tricky, if we don't have a manager that can execute that,

4130
05:20:58,360 --> 05:21:00,220
then it would all fall apart and we'd end up spending more money.

4131
05:21:00,360 --> 05:21:01,580
That's basically, is that correct?

4132
05:21:01,860 --> 05:21:03,660
This is a management problem we're dealing with.

4133
05:21:06,440 --> 05:21:11,100
Well, it would be nice to weigh the magic one and say, hey, let's just hire one and two guys.

4134
05:21:11,380 --> 05:21:13,900
It's 130,000 instead of 330,000.

4135
05:21:14,040 --> 05:21:17,060
But the problem is that if we don't manage those two new guys,

4136
05:21:17,160 --> 05:21:20,520
our gals, or whatever correctly, then we might be doing the two,

4137
05:21:20,520 --> 05:21:26,900
And then in addition to the overtime, if it's not managed correctly, there's a good kind of

4138
05:21:26,900 --> 05:21:28,820
one to share this.

4139
05:21:29,140 --> 05:21:32,240
In general terms, I'm going to agree with you commissioner.

4140
05:21:35,770 --> 05:21:42,310
So, in the policy, it does talk about if the department has an overtime policy.

4141
05:21:43,130 --> 05:21:48,390
So, I did inquire about that and I did that this morning.

4142
05:21:48,390 --> 05:21:52,890
so I haven't had a chance to look at my email or to follow up on that.

4143
05:21:54,790 --> 05:21:57,330
Can we should have been, may I mention something?

4144
05:21:57,330 --> 05:21:58,070
Excuse me.

4145
05:21:58,190 --> 05:21:59,770
I don't want to thank you.

4146
05:22:00,490 --> 05:22:03,670
So I understand mathematically what you're saying.

4147
05:22:04,290 --> 05:22:07,910
But we're not talking about just two deputies in Perum.

4148
05:22:08,050 --> 05:22:11,470
We're talking over time for the Sheriff's Office throughout the county.

4149
05:22:12,110 --> 05:22:17,510
And so to hire to get rid of the 31,000 in overtime on paper,

4150
05:22:17,510 --> 05:22:24,210
We hire two deputies. They're in Perump, but they're incurring over time in Ram Mountain or here in Tone of Power or

4151
05:22:24,210 --> 05:22:29,210
And those could be dispatchers. Yes, we can know that it is. Yeah, it's on point. It's not a fine initial price

4152
05:22:29,210 --> 05:22:34,530
If we could just have a bunch of people making widgets in one room, then it would make sense to just hire two new people

4153
05:22:34,530 --> 05:22:41,370
But it's then it becomes a complicated management problem. Yes, and that's where we're at so we need to just figure out

4154
05:22:41,370 --> 05:22:49,330
Maybe at some point we can get from the sheriff's office any kind of any kind of like way to maybe fix that probably here's what I suggest

4155
05:22:49,330 --> 05:22:53,870
It is what a normal company would do. I need to direct that to the discussion about normal. See you're a company

4156
05:22:53,870 --> 05:22:59,510
But an animal company would say sure if we're paying $350,000 a year to actually be more than that

4157
05:22:59,510 --> 05:23:02,510
It's actually more like the $400,000 a year

4158
05:23:02,510 --> 05:23:07,230
How do you recommend with staffing levels to to make that better?

4159
05:23:07,230 --> 05:23:11,190
And so I would like to see your report like that. I don't want to put more pressure on the sheriff's office

4160
05:23:11,190 --> 05:23:16,530
But it would be an interesting. Do you agree with me that'd be an interesting thing to ask for at least?

4161
05:23:17,070 --> 05:23:18,050
Well, Commissioner

4162
05:23:20,390 --> 05:23:29,830
The the sheriff's department's got many different positions. It's not just deputies that incur over time. I mean, it's dispatch. It's

4163
05:23:29,830 --> 05:23:35,230
You know, it's a jail. It's I mean, it's all kind of different for an office. I totally understand

4164
05:23:35,230 --> 05:23:39,750
I was just wondering if there's a way to just not compel it, but just ask if there's a way,

4165
05:23:40,010 --> 05:23:44,430
if you want more people, how do we, if it's a cheaper way to get more people instead of the over time,

4166
05:23:44,590 --> 05:23:47,430
show us the plan, but we have to make sure we're going to blow past that plan.

4167
05:23:48,010 --> 05:23:49,650
I'm not suggesting creating policy.

4168
05:23:49,790 --> 05:23:54,130
I just wouldn't mind seeing just, this is what managers typically do in companies, it's hard,

4169
05:23:54,170 --> 05:23:57,410
it's hard to be a manager, it's not just strutting around and saying, I'm a manager, it's actually

4170
05:23:57,410 --> 05:23:58,210
doing stuff like this.

4171
05:23:58,470 --> 05:24:02,170
So I don't know if it's possible, if we could get that that would be wonderful if not,

4172
05:24:02,250 --> 05:24:03,650
then that's what it is.

4173
05:24:03,650 --> 05:24:12,810
That kind of plays back to the last item, or the item with the position policy,

4174
05:24:13,210 --> 05:24:18,530
filling position policy. That's all kind of to get that information for that justification.

4175
05:24:20,350 --> 05:24:25,050
So that's exactly what we're trying to accomplish. So you're on the right track.

4176
05:24:26,940 --> 05:24:34,260
So the last piece, that was the Sheriff's Office, that did not include the overtime for the

4177
05:24:34,260 --> 05:24:38,600
middle of the page, which is an additional $18,700.

4178
05:24:41,640 --> 05:24:44,380
Just to point that out, since we were talking about that.

4179
05:24:51,080 --> 05:24:52,860
OK, come on, sir, it's the week.

4180
05:24:53,720 --> 05:24:54,460
I have something to present.

4181
05:24:54,580 --> 05:24:57,460
Chair, the only thing I heard came from direction to staff

4182
05:24:57,460 --> 05:24:58,660
in regards to item number eight.

4183
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:05,440
18, of the items that we've opened, but I think seeing it has one more to discuss.

4184
05:25:06,740 --> 05:25:09,320
When you're done, then we'll open public.

4185
05:25:10,000 --> 05:25:20,820
Okay. So fiscal 27, we started the budget process, and it was very difficult this year to say the least.

4186
05:25:21,720 --> 05:25:30,600
We had to pull back on filled positions, open positions, which was very hard for many departments,

4187
05:25:31,300 --> 05:25:34,200
especially for our safety area.

4188
05:25:35,480 --> 05:25:41,060
And then we also had to do a 34% cut in service and supplies.

4189
05:25:42,200 --> 05:25:47,400
So this is an update where we are with the fiscal 27 budget.

4190
05:25:49,970 --> 05:25:54,350
We had the early employee separation program.

4191
05:25:54,750 --> 05:26:02,430
We are going to be putting forward an agenda item to reduce salaries, benefits,

4192
05:26:04,810 --> 05:26:04,810
and

4193
05:26:05,230 --> 05:26:08,270
we class where the cost savings was a placeholder.

4194
05:26:08,990 --> 05:26:10,850
That's going to be about a million dollars.

4195
05:26:11,650 --> 05:26:15,730
We have to move the jail fund over to the general fund.

4196
05:26:16,850 --> 05:26:32,710
It's going to take a little time to do that because of the transactions have to be stopped so it will take some time for us to cut off the jail fund and bring it over to the general fund.

4197
05:26:33,050 --> 05:26:40,730
But in the most part, this is just a summary to show you where we stand with the fiscal 27 budget.

4198
05:26:41,930 --> 05:26:51,910
Our budget was balanced when we approved it, and because there was so much pushback from

4199
05:26:51,910 --> 05:26:58,850
some departments saying that they did not have enough in their budget for service and supplies,

4200
05:27:00,610 --> 05:27:10,710
I have a few more departments to work with, but so far we have budget and item will be coming back to

4201
05:27:10,710 --> 05:27:17,890
the Board of Commissioners at the next agenda meeting to talk about more specifics. But so far

4202
05:27:17,890 --> 05:27:27,210
we have $1.7 million of service and supplies that departments are asking for. And then we

4203
05:27:27,210 --> 05:27:34,630
still don't have overtime budgeted. So those are the two items for the fiscal 27 budget

4204
05:27:35,630 --> 05:27:38,930
to bring you up to speed of how where we are.

4205
05:27:47,460 --> 05:27:49,120
Let's open public comment.

4206
05:27:51,190 --> 05:27:51,930
Come on up, Steven.

4207
05:27:58,500 --> 05:27:59,080
You awake.

4208
05:27:59,480 --> 05:27:59,660
Yes, sir.

4209
05:27:59,840 --> 05:28:01,800
Steven Pettman, PIT, M-A-N.

4210
05:28:03,400 --> 05:28:04,240
Marine Corps.

4211
05:28:04,800 --> 05:28:05,960
Keep it simple, stupid.

4212
05:28:07,120 --> 05:28:11,060
If I incur $300,000 in overtime,

4213
05:28:11,840 --> 05:28:13,540
that was not budgeted.

4214
05:28:13,820 --> 05:28:16,260
It can't be solved by hiring more people

4215
05:28:16,260 --> 05:28:18,120
to decrease the overtime.

4216
05:28:20,240 --> 05:28:24,360
Yes? Thank you. Thank you. Sam, I'm going to put it on the phone, please.

4217
05:28:25,800 --> 05:28:29,320
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak a little bit about your name for the record.

4218
05:28:32,500 --> 05:28:37,320
Yeah, I'm both handed to the OHA and then OHA and a couple of things, sir. One on the

4219
05:28:38,200 --> 05:28:47,960
2020-6 feedback, wise comment, Zena, not not committing that would be over or under the budget

4220
05:28:48,500 --> 05:28:53,720
You don't know what the adjusting entries are going to be, and you don't know the last tax payments going to be.

4221
05:28:54,500 --> 05:28:56,840
Well, he's called number two.

4222
05:28:57,740 --> 05:28:59,100
From an over time standpoint,

4223
05:29:00,280 --> 05:29:09,420
the valid point to simplify marine on the over time not being budgeted with the caveat.

4224
05:29:10,800 --> 05:29:13,340
So from an evaluation standpoint,

4225
05:29:14,180 --> 05:29:17,220
what I heard is justification, justification, justification.

4226
05:29:17,220 --> 05:29:20,200
But then here, I think, about ram notification, either.

4227
05:29:21,140 --> 05:29:24,540
So what is, what is the penalty for a respect?

4228
05:29:25,580 --> 05:29:26,360
In here, anything?

4229
05:29:27,160 --> 05:29:28,420
Is it that's going on a watch list?

4230
05:29:28,500 --> 05:29:29,620
Do we have to read that long?

4231
05:29:30,260 --> 05:29:33,640
Or is it something else that's done internally

4232
05:29:34,780 --> 05:29:40,080
about curbing the expense and the cost that are occurring?

4233
05:29:41,620 --> 05:29:42,500
Driving efficiency.

4234
05:29:43,380 --> 05:29:45,140
You know, here, me say that quite a bit.

4235
05:29:45,140 --> 05:29:59,420
but let's do more with less for it as far as a as a 2027 budget. I looked at that I was a little bit disappointed quite frankly.

4236
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:08,700
One to be at least 10 to 20% of a crucial and a bottom to give yourself leeway when there's in state of inflation.

4237
05:30:09,540 --> 05:30:24,340
To give yourself leeway to be able to pay back some of the excess or some of the benefits that had been occurring on the tensions, et cetera, over time and the increases of unfunded mandates.

4238
05:30:24,340 --> 05:30:30,520
So, all that funding needs to be taken to the account and provide it for it.

4239
05:30:31,220 --> 05:30:33,440
The back there will be time for seconds.

4240
05:30:33,820 --> 05:30:34,340
Thank you.

4241
05:30:34,900 --> 05:30:35,440
The victim.

4242
05:30:38,030 --> 05:30:39,270
Come on down.

4243
05:30:43,760 --> 05:30:46,870
Angelina Jackson, J.A. C. K. K. Soin.

4244
05:30:47,480 --> 05:30:53,780
First, one of the commissioners asked about the deputy situation, you know, if there's one or,

4245
05:30:53,860 --> 05:30:59,560
you know, hiring one full time, it's one less body than.

4246
05:30:59,560 --> 05:31:09,220
Okay, it's so if you hire one full time instead of two and have them on over time or whatever, maybe that means you're going to have one less body.

4247
05:31:10,360 --> 05:31:11,180
So one less deputy.

4248
05:31:12,440 --> 05:31:14,560
Okay, that's just it's common sense.

4249
05:31:15,460 --> 05:31:24,040
Now, without the answer, Zina, you made a comment of what the revenue was and what was paid out.

4250
05:31:24,040 --> 05:31:30,100
If it's 57.7 that was brought in in revenue, but 64 million was paid out just for payroll alone,

4251
05:31:30,600 --> 05:31:36,920
I don't understand how those numbers pay. Yes, man, payroll itself is 64 million.

4252
05:31:38,400 --> 05:31:54,020
And can you stop her time, please? Hold her. Senior, would you please explain to the

4253
05:32:03,810 --> 05:32:05,410
item 16.

4254
05:32:07,470 --> 05:32:09,010
I'm sorry. No, not 16.

4255
05:32:23,490 --> 05:32:28,110
So 16 has full year expenditures of $51 million.

4256
05:32:28,930 --> 05:32:33,870
For the entire year for the entire county, not just payroll.

4257
05:32:34,130 --> 05:32:36,290
And I'm explaining to you. I'm not done.

4258
05:32:37,190 --> 05:32:44,930
Jeanette, within that, it shows the percentage for wages and salaries on item 17 is 23,000,

4259
05:32:44,930 --> 05:32:48,770
3.5 million and benefits is 16.6.

4260
05:32:49,190 --> 05:32:51,410
So we're not at 64 million by a long shot.

4261
05:32:51,870 --> 05:32:53,590
Thank you. Thank you for holding me.

4262
05:32:53,590 --> 05:32:55,430
I think we're going to look up on Transparent Nevada.

4263
05:32:56,990 --> 05:33:00,870
And that is a legitimate site where it serves the salaries.

4264
05:33:01,550 --> 05:33:05,870
On there, the total with benefits is 64 million.

4265
05:33:06,150 --> 05:33:09,170
Let's talk offline because I can explain some of the

4266
05:33:09,170 --> 05:33:13,730
problem. Some of the differences in the information the way it gets looked at.

4267
05:33:13,750 --> 05:33:14,310
Thank you, Zena.

4268
05:33:14,310 --> 05:33:16,130
That would be really helpful. Thank you, Senior.

4269
05:33:16,410 --> 05:33:19,070
And as for the Sheriff's Department in the jail,

4270
05:33:19,330 --> 05:33:21,730
that should all be under one, including the courts.

4271
05:33:22,250 --> 05:33:25,010
That should be all under one grouping now divided.

4272
05:33:26,170 --> 05:33:28,350
And the Sheriff's Department and the fire department

4273
05:33:28,350 --> 05:33:32,090
are the last ones that should be questioned

4274
05:33:32,090 --> 05:33:34,850
as this hard and worth what's getting paid.

4275
05:33:34,930 --> 05:33:37,470
What are you going to do? Stop a fireman from being in the middle of a fire

4276
05:33:37,470 --> 05:33:39,790
and tell them, oh, you can't pay them over time.

4277
05:33:40,550 --> 05:33:43,330
This is just, again, that's not even rational.

4278
05:33:44,290 --> 05:33:52,030
And to be honest with you, I am formally going to call for forensic audit and for everything,

4279
05:33:52,710 --> 05:33:58,710
yeah, going or incoming, anything, for everything to be on a freeze until everything's investigated,

4280
05:33:59,290 --> 05:34:03,390
because something is not, is not right somewhere, because all this money that's getting paid get,

4281
05:34:03,590 --> 05:34:05,470
there's nothing in this town to show for whatsoever.

4282
05:34:07,770 --> 05:34:11,870
And Mr. Baskovich, you know, you can go ahead and make your facial expressions that's fine.

4283
05:34:11,870 --> 05:34:14,250
It doesn't bother me one bit sir, but it fends other people.

4284
05:34:14,330 --> 05:34:17,990
There's time has done, and I don't know how you say there's nothing to show for it.

4285
05:34:18,230 --> 05:34:19,170
There's nothing to show for it.

4286
05:34:19,430 --> 05:34:21,890
There's roads, there's park. I mean, good God.

4287
05:34:22,730 --> 05:34:24,150
Say, I'm the way everybody on the phone, please.

4288
05:34:27,440 --> 05:34:30,840
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

4289
05:34:33,970 --> 05:34:40,290
Hello, Commissioner. Michael David Garcia, GARP, CIA. Can you hear me? Is my volume okay? Go answer.

4290
05:34:42,390 --> 05:34:44,390
All right, I'm going to try to keep the peaky for you.

4291
05:34:45,640 --> 05:34:54,340
sounds like you need to break these days, but anyhow, I definitely want to point out the fact that

4292
05:34:54,340 --> 05:34:57,760
there definitely need to be a forensic audit and everybody.

4293
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:05,900
To be able to see that they're actually able to take it for a firm, and our efforts to state that our taxes stay here.

4294
05:35:06,480 --> 05:35:09,760
They can shuffle it all and see how they keep their foot.

4295
05:35:10,080 --> 05:35:13,560
They should be looked at on the private side of the way that handle the public's money.

4296
05:35:14,340 --> 05:35:20,180
But anyhow, I do want to mention to the Marines in the House.

4297
05:35:20,420 --> 05:35:27,080
Perhaps the only way to save this county is for county officials to start going to jail for the crimes they commit.

4298
05:35:28,220 --> 05:35:36,280
And notice that the D.A. didn't need a sensitivity manager's focus on a previous agenda item when it came to this.

4299
05:35:36,520 --> 05:35:38,280
I'm going to go ahead and point out the elephant.

4300
05:35:38,980 --> 05:35:43,000
The D.A. didn't need one of those permission slips to add a courtesy driver.

4301
05:35:44,140 --> 05:35:45,820
You know, all that money is coming from where?

4302
05:35:46,440 --> 05:35:48,300
And how does that agenda item get on there?

4303
05:35:48,560 --> 05:35:49,860
We all heard the D.A. screen.

4304
05:35:50,100 --> 05:35:53,280
I can't do much job. I got to have the resources.

4305
05:35:53,280 --> 05:36:02,860
What about that opinion or the permission to let them in, we count to, we count to, thank y'all.

4306
05:36:03,620 --> 05:36:04,580
Go ahead, Beth.

4307
05:36:05,540 --> 05:36:10,560
Beth for a Savage Bill R. Y. SCWICH.

4308
05:36:11,040 --> 05:36:20,580
I am not an accountant. I hate doing numbers. I failed accounting in school, which I'm just not good at it.

4309
05:36:20,580 --> 05:36:27,880
So, I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and it might be obvious, but because I am not an accountant, I need an answer.

4310
05:36:30,980 --> 05:36:35,680
Why don't departments budget potential overtime?

4311
05:36:36,500 --> 05:36:43,800
When I was in the construction field, and you got people out there, you know, pouring cement, putting up blocks or whatever,

4312
05:36:43,800 --> 05:36:51,040
There could potential be over time because something might happen, there might be a delay, an accident, or something.

4313
05:36:51,740 --> 05:36:56,900
But I think every department should budget potential over time.

4314
05:36:57,340 --> 05:37:00,880
That way it's going to give you guys a clear record of what those departments are doing.

4315
05:37:02,800 --> 05:37:08,420
So, I don't know if that's a stupid idea, but I think that would be the right way to do it.

4316
05:37:10,620 --> 05:37:12,840
Okay, Zena, she just smiles.

4317
05:37:14,860 --> 05:37:20,640
The other thing is, I do not think we should talk about the police or the sheriff or the fire.

4318
05:37:20,980 --> 05:37:31,560
When it comes to overtime, employees, or anything, let's keep them off the side, talk about them in a totally different agenda item.

4319
05:37:31,560 --> 05:37:38,520
Because people get hung up on the police and the fire where the other departments kind of like slide under the door

4320
05:37:38,520 --> 05:37:43,960
And that's not good and we don't know where the money's going and then we reduced

4321
05:37:45,460 --> 05:37:47,200
Services and supplies

4322
05:37:49,020 --> 05:37:53,060
1.7 million or no 34%

4323
05:37:54,440 --> 05:38:01,440
What were these services and supplies that you guys went that do you have requests for 1.7 million?

4324
05:38:01,560 --> 05:38:05,880
I'd like to know what those are that they need so very badly.

4325
05:38:07,920 --> 05:38:08,800
Thank you.

4326
05:38:08,800 --> 05:38:09,600
Thanks, ma'am.

4327
05:38:09,660 --> 05:38:10,840
Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

4328
05:38:11,940 --> 05:38:12,320
Not here.

4329
05:38:13,260 --> 05:38:13,860
All right, Linda.

4330
05:38:15,240 --> 05:38:15,700
Real quick.

4331
05:38:15,840 --> 05:38:16,800
I just have a quick question.

4332
05:38:16,920 --> 05:38:17,740
Linda Clark, silly.

4333
05:38:17,960 --> 05:38:18,160
Okay.

4334
05:38:21,190 --> 05:38:22,770
Zena said, just a few minutes ago.

4335
05:38:24,210 --> 05:38:24,990
Hold on here.

4336
05:38:26,490 --> 05:38:30,070
But the jail of fun should be put in with a general fun.

4337
05:38:30,450 --> 05:38:33,470
and it would be the purpose. Why would it be a benefit?

4338
05:38:35,960 --> 05:38:39,660
Joe doesn't even know. You know, Joe?

4339
05:38:43,790 --> 05:38:48,410
Okay, I just wanted an explanation for that. If we had separate funds before a while of a

4340
05:38:48,410 --> 05:38:53,750
sudden, there we can come in going those funds. Thank you. Thank you, Sam, anybody else?

4341
05:38:54,290 --> 05:39:00,570
No chair. Closing public. Easy answer. No income. We had a jail fund established because we had a

4342
05:39:00,570 --> 05:39:05,010
ice contract. We don't have one anymore. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. All right,

4343
05:39:05,010 --> 05:39:07,970
commissioners, what are we doing with us?

4344
05:39:08,030 --> 05:39:09,610
I figure out how to do whatever we want.

4345
05:39:09,810 --> 05:39:13,210
I just want to say that, well, you know that Commissioner

4346
05:39:15,030 --> 05:39:18,390
Jibor had a great idea for his direction to staff.

4347
05:39:18,510 --> 05:39:19,470
I'd like to see that.

4348
05:39:19,490 --> 05:39:20,230
And Bane.

4349
05:39:20,230 --> 05:39:22,350
And Bane, that they put that together.

4350
05:39:23,430 --> 05:39:26,830
But first and foremost, I would like to recognize when it comes to item number

4351
05:39:26,830 --> 05:39:31,790
16, which is an overview of where we started with a six point almost five

4352
05:39:31,790 --> 05:39:33,290
six point five.

4353
05:39:33,290 --> 05:39:39,490
Yeah, well it says 6.5 deficit and it's looking like by the time we get done with C-tax

4354
05:39:39,490 --> 05:39:44,930
we might have no deficit and that is by the hard work of this county in the town of Prump to

4355
05:39:44,930 --> 05:39:48,810
make sure that happened and these commissioners have to take these hard hits for everybody

4356
05:39:48,810 --> 05:39:53,530
out there telling us we're losing money in the meantime we're tightening our belts and tightening

4357
05:39:53,530 --> 05:39:59,430
our belts and tightening our belts and so thank you Zena thank you to your financial team

4358
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:08,180
Because you had to make sure all that got done and come up with the ideas to make it happen, came from this board. So, good job, board. Thank you, chair.

4359
05:40:08,840 --> 05:40:12,660
Thank you, commissioner. Jebore, you're doing anything or commissioner being.

4360
05:40:16,150 --> 05:40:21,290
Good, thank you. Thank you, Zayna. Thank you. All right, do we have to vote on this?

4361
05:40:21,290 --> 05:40:24,970
I believe the direction was good enough.

4362
05:40:25,170 --> 05:40:30,030
Okay, closing that out, moving to 21.

4363
05:40:31,410 --> 05:40:32,530
I believe it or not.

4364
05:40:34,480 --> 05:40:36,660
Item 21, general public comment.

4365
05:40:37,000 --> 05:40:38,920
Up to three minute time limit per person.

4366
05:40:39,120 --> 05:40:41,700
Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda.

4367
05:40:42,260 --> 05:40:46,380
Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control

4368
05:40:46,380 --> 05:40:47,760
of the board of county commissioners.

4369
05:40:48,580 --> 05:40:51,980
Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period

4370
05:40:51,980 --> 05:40:55,620
and tells specifically, included on an agenda as an action item.

4371
05:40:55,960 --> 05:40:58,340
Thank you for that. All right, see, I'm doing everybody on the phone, please.

4372
05:41:03,160 --> 05:41:03,620
No chair.

4373
05:41:03,920 --> 05:41:04,520
I'm on up, Susie.

4374
05:41:10,390 --> 05:41:12,670
Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z.

4375
05:41:14,330 --> 05:41:18,470
Just something I noticed, I've noticed many times actually,

4376
05:41:19,250 --> 05:41:21,990
and that has due with an expense of the county.

4377
05:41:22,650 --> 05:41:29,670
And I was, when I came in this morning, the sprinklers were running in the eye all over the grass.

4378
05:41:30,670 --> 05:41:40,630
Where I come from, which is the less drought-strickened area, people generally watered their

4379
05:41:40,630 --> 05:41:47,850
grass in their plants at nighttime when the winds were usually calmer and it was quieter

4380
05:41:48,590 --> 05:41:52,650
and it was more effective use of the water.

4381
05:41:52,650 --> 05:42:02,490
So, I might make a suggestion that that be looked at here, everywhere you go throughout town where there's any public land.

4382
05:42:03,110 --> 05:42:08,690
The sprinklers are always running in the daytime. The wind blows the water away. It doesn't water what you're watering.

4383
05:42:09,530 --> 05:42:18,930
Today there was a guy with his dog in the park and he couldn't use the park. He was walking around the edge on the pavement because he couldn't get to the grass.

4384
05:42:21,040 --> 05:42:48,060
I hate to repeat myself, but until something changes, I guess I'll have to, and that is to reinforce the fact that we who live here have moved here or have come here to live in a rural small community, and that doesn't mean we're against change and it doesn't mean we're against progress.

4385
05:42:48,060 --> 05:42:54,420
Any of us who came from somewhere else came from a much more metropolitan environment that this,

4386
05:42:54,620 --> 05:42:59,100
so we're used to living a much higher life and a much more sophisticated life.

4387
05:42:59,340 --> 05:43:03,600
But we've chosen to come here and be here and live here.

4388
05:43:04,000 --> 05:43:11,720
And I would respectfully ask that this county administration and everybody in it keep that in mind.

4389
05:43:11,840 --> 05:43:12,620
Thank you, Susie.

4390
05:43:12,960 --> 05:43:13,240
Thank you.

4391
05:43:13,340 --> 05:43:14,740
Thank you.

4392
05:43:17,010 --> 05:43:19,110
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

4393
05:43:19,530 --> 05:43:21,010
Please speak in the following name for the record.

4394
05:43:24,360 --> 05:43:27,140
Yeah, my name is Matt Sather, FAD, LER.

4395
05:43:27,260 --> 05:43:29,080
Good evening, commissioners.

4396
05:43:30,260 --> 05:43:32,100
I just want to put something on the radar here

4397
05:43:32,100 --> 05:43:33,920
if I'm coming down the line,

4398
05:43:34,320 --> 05:43:35,480
or that I've been hearing from them, though,

4399
05:43:35,940 --> 05:43:38,320
that's a municipal, Toronto Police Force,

4400
05:43:38,500 --> 05:43:41,760
which would add a level of bureaucracy in our community

4401
05:43:41,760 --> 05:43:44,720
that I would urge you to really question

4402
05:43:44,720 --> 05:43:46,840
as to whether or not we would need that.

4403
05:43:47,220 --> 05:43:48,820
My personal opinion, no way.

4404
05:43:48,820 --> 05:43:52,640
You've already gotten rid of something like that in the past in the form of a town board.

4405
05:43:52,800 --> 05:43:55,900
I don't think we need that again. We don't need that expense.

4406
05:43:56,560 --> 05:43:59,780
Focus resources on bolstering the existing 9 County Sheriff's Office.

4407
05:44:00,200 --> 05:44:01,300
Please, thank you.

4408
05:44:01,520 --> 05:44:02,640
Thank you. Come on up, Linda.

4409
05:44:06,760 --> 05:44:08,280
Linda Clark, Sally, are okay.

4410
05:44:08,740 --> 05:44:12,700
I just have a couple of observations from a couple of things that were on the agenda earlier.

4411
05:44:13,020 --> 05:44:15,940
So I hope that I can speak to those.

4412
05:44:18,800 --> 05:44:24,160
When Mr. Sutton was up here talking about the project that he is representing, they talked

4413
05:44:24,160 --> 05:44:27,800
a lot about what they're going to do over there, and the thing that really threw me off

4414
05:44:27,800 --> 05:44:31,400
the most, and I'm sure the people that live up there in that area are really concerned

4415
05:44:31,400 --> 05:44:39,420
about it, is water. Not once they mention water and what they're going to be using, and

4416
05:44:39,420 --> 05:44:45,840
that seems to be kind of a concern. They did say that they were going to put in

4417
05:44:45,840 --> 05:44:52,940
a park. Okay, the park needs to be watered and I'm assuming that the park is below

4418
05:44:52,940 --> 05:44:58,880
Where they were gonna put their whatever that thing was that they were gonna keep the water from I don't know the technical terms

4419
05:45:00,340 --> 05:45:07,560
The basic thing, that was going to be below the basin, was a park going to be above it, in it.

4420
05:45:07,980 --> 05:45:17,440
Okay, so if we have a flood or some other kind of prompt and we know that area if there is a flood zone and they do have flooding up there, really bad.

4421
05:45:17,680 --> 05:45:20,960
And at the one meeting that we had, a lot of people did complain about it.

4422
05:45:21,280 --> 05:45:27,480
And they were so upset that they all left at the end of the thing because of the decisions that were made, people just walked out.

4423
05:45:27,480 --> 05:45:31,280
It was disgusting, but it happened and it was deserved.

4424
05:45:32,180 --> 05:45:39,240
So, my question is if we're going to put a park where there's a possibility that we can have a flood and kids could get hurt,

4425
05:45:40,040 --> 05:45:42,400
Gee, we'll have another splash pad that is an authorized.

4426
05:45:43,320 --> 05:45:47,760
So, why? Why wouldn't we care about that?

4427
05:45:48,260 --> 05:45:52,160
I mean, obviously these kids could get hurt, somebody could get hurt really bad.

4428
05:45:52,160 --> 05:46:03,880
And they weren't talking about the water, and the flooding, they were talking about an area where they're going to put a park, and they're obviously going to be using water.

4429
05:46:04,580 --> 05:46:11,000
So I don't understand why we would put something in an area where the kids could be hurt.

4430
05:46:11,000 --> 05:46:12,340
Thank you, Linda. Yes.

4431
05:46:12,500 --> 05:46:14,100
And we got anybody on the phone, please?

4432
05:46:14,460 --> 05:46:15,900
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

4433
05:46:16,300 --> 05:46:17,800
Please, because of all your name for the record.

4434
05:46:21,090 --> 05:46:21,470
Oh, yes.

4435
05:46:21,650 --> 05:46:24,190
Amy Nelson, Gini L. S. L. N.

4436
05:46:25,890 --> 05:46:31,030
I was going to talk about all the building

4437
05:46:31,990 --> 05:46:38,090
and all the constructions that are going on with the solar farms.

4438
05:46:39,370 --> 05:46:41,630
The water is a huge issue.

4439
05:46:41,630 --> 05:46:51,230
And we keep making plans to build more houses and put more people out here and we just

4440
05:46:51,230 --> 05:46:55,150
we just don't have the water and our infrastructure is failing.

4441
05:46:56,370 --> 05:47:06,010
We keep raising taxes on a few of us that pay taxes on our homes to support the entire

4442
05:47:06,550 --> 05:47:06,950
county.

4443
05:47:06,950 --> 05:47:09,970
And that has to change, too.

4444
05:47:11,190 --> 05:47:15,850
We have to have some other form be it fundraisers,

4445
05:47:16,430 --> 05:47:22,310
or something that the county can do to involve the people

4446
05:47:23,450 --> 05:47:28,050
to trust the government, to be forced to the government,

4447
05:47:29,110 --> 05:47:31,070
and be part of it.

4448
05:47:31,470 --> 05:47:34,970
But it's something to think about, I don't know,

4449
05:47:34,970 --> 05:47:43,990
any of you interested now. Maybe our new board will be. Thank you. Thanks, Amy. Come on down, please.

4450
05:47:48,980 --> 05:47:53,960
Angelina Jackson, JAC, K.S. Owen. I'm not sure if we're being given two or three minutes.

4451
05:47:54,320 --> 05:47:59,020
If the time was set for two or three minutes, Mr. Wagner said that it was going to be for three minutes.

4452
05:48:00,320 --> 05:48:03,020
It's two minutes all the time. Mr. Wagner said it three minutes.

4453
05:48:03,020 --> 05:48:11,640
voice in your own time. First of all, I would like to address the board. I don't know which one

4454
05:48:11,640 --> 05:48:16,660
of you made the comment something about referred to somebody as a scumbag. That is uncalled for

4455
05:48:17,360 --> 05:48:23,300
and does not represent a way that a commissioner should behave. Also, the fact that it's going

4456
05:48:23,300 --> 05:48:28,300
well, that's not my district. If you're a commissioner on this board for the county, it's not just

4457
05:48:28,300 --> 05:48:34,240
district they are responsible for it's the entire county so sit in there and you know

4458
05:48:34,240 --> 05:48:39,300
and not putting your input and not being concerned about it then you shouldn't be a part of

4459
05:48:39,300 --> 05:48:47,920
this for what if that's all you're gonna do second or next Mr. Bane you running around the park filming

4460
05:48:47,920 --> 05:48:55,160
the homeless and filming the garbage can in the park is excuse me sir but made you look like a

4461
05:48:55,160 --> 05:49:06,140
range lunatic. That was just unbecoming of anybody, whether in an officer or not. And it kind

4462
05:49:06,140 --> 05:49:10,700
of represents the way that this whole commission has been behaving like the range lunatics.

4463
05:49:11,800 --> 05:49:15,980
So I think we need to set back and look at your own behaviors before you go scrutinizing

4464
05:49:15,980 --> 05:49:20,960
anybody else's decorum as like that word you guys like to throw around but have no meaning

4465
05:49:20,960 --> 05:49:30,200
what it means. You want respect, get respect back, act like you deserve it. And it's

4466
05:49:30,200 --> 05:49:34,980
edited that there's many of the board members here that don't give a damn about the community.

4467
05:49:36,140 --> 05:49:41,220
What's so webb? Because they don't want to listen. And that's fine. Because the only people

4468
05:49:41,220 --> 05:49:47,320
who's looking like a fool here are you guys, not me and not nobody else out here. And again,

4469
05:49:47,320 --> 05:49:51,500
I will be calling for that forensic audit at everybody's payroll business here.

4470
05:49:51,820 --> 05:49:51,960
You're welcome.

4471
05:49:51,960 --> 05:49:53,480
Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

4472
05:49:54,160 --> 05:49:54,540
Yes, sure.

4473
05:49:54,600 --> 05:49:55,560
The caller is unmuted.

4474
05:49:55,820 --> 05:49:56,040
Please.

4475
05:49:56,180 --> 05:49:57,500
Speak in the name for the record.

4476
05:50:00,660 --> 05:50:09,440
The treachera, the RLBV 2 minutes to speak. Wow. Is this going to be something that's going to be 2 minutes going forward?

4477
05:50:09,500 --> 05:50:19,860
Or are we going to go back to our 3 minutes? I had prepared information to share with you that is very valuable and I was cut off.

4478
05:50:20,100 --> 05:50:30,520
So I just want to remind you to please get with the Regional Planning Commission to get it on their agenda in regards to the overlay ordinance that they're working on.

4479
05:50:30,660 --> 05:50:42,440
The owners are waiting, the owners are frustrated, the owners talk to me and tell me everything that's going on, but they build you're not listening and they don't want to talk to you.

4480
05:50:42,920 --> 05:50:51,360
So I'm sorry, I don't want to have to carry out all of this along with Lorraine, we show up at every meeting or we call up every meeting.

4481
05:50:51,360 --> 05:50:56,560
These people want us to carry their burden in their load and their thrust straight it.

4482
05:50:56,820 --> 05:51:01,620
I just want to remind you that NRS chapters two, four, four, and two, seven, eight together,

4483
05:51:01,620 --> 05:51:06,780
reflect that balance between development, property rights, and public need.

4484
05:51:07,060 --> 05:51:10,550
Regulation should not leave properties permanently useless,

4485
05:51:11,500 --> 05:51:14,460
without considering a reasonable pathway forward.

4486
05:51:14,460 --> 05:51:20,180
And we've provided that everyone should have a backup plan when it comes to water.

4487
05:51:20,580 --> 05:51:24,540
Everyone should be able to understand how conservation works.

4488
05:51:25,160 --> 05:51:26,700
That's what I want to say.

4489
05:51:27,140 --> 05:51:27,470
Thank you.

4490
05:51:28,000 --> 05:51:28,440
Thank you.

4491
05:51:28,640 --> 05:51:29,540
Come on down, Beth.

4492
05:51:33,800 --> 05:51:34,860
That's for Savage.

4493
05:51:34,860 --> 05:51:38,280
Be a RY, SCWICH.

4494
05:51:39,120 --> 05:51:44,600
Four years ago, I set up a site from complaint about VAA.

4495
05:51:44,600 --> 05:51:51,840
in our rates out of the blue one month before they instituted them. Nobody knew about it.

4496
05:51:52,260 --> 05:52:00,620
I called and raised Holy Hell. I started a website and it kind of morphed into not only VA,

4497
05:52:01,260 --> 05:52:11,160
now it's morphed into Nik County as well as some out of County towns that have called

4498
05:52:11,160 --> 05:52:18,900
ask questions, and it has involved the majority of people in the town that are on Facebook.

4499
05:52:19,500 --> 05:52:27,560
And I want to say, I am damn proud of all these people standing up and voicing their opinion.

4500
05:52:28,540 --> 05:52:35,320
Everyone of you guys that do any kind of research, I want to say, good job.

4501
05:52:36,240 --> 05:52:39,940
Keep it up because that's what the whole thing was about.

4502
05:52:39,940 --> 05:52:46,740
And it's not to yell at you, I don't, I don't know you guys personally.

4503
05:52:47,840 --> 05:52:53,380
I can yell at you though about the things that are happening because of my frustration.

4504
05:52:54,720 --> 05:52:59,900
And if anybody hates you personally, you then you know, okay, but I don't know you, so

4505
05:52:59,900 --> 05:53:01,100
I can't hate you.

4506
05:53:01,500 --> 05:53:09,920
But sometimes you know, it gets really frustrating when we ask a question, there's no

4507
05:53:09,920 --> 05:53:16,120
an email and they don't get a response. You guys have all been good at returning my emails because

4508
05:53:16,120 --> 05:53:21,780
I guess I'm a pain in the butt and I just keep emailing until I get an answer. So, I just

4509
05:53:21,780 --> 05:53:29,340
want to say, I'm not yelling at you and I don't think everybody is yelling at you. They're

4510
05:53:29,340 --> 05:53:36,760
just yelling at the circumstances that we find ourselves in. So, I'm not speaking for everybody,

4511
05:53:36,760 --> 05:53:41,920
but thank you. Thank you. Sam anybody on the phone please. Yes, Chair the

4512
05:53:41,920 --> 05:53:44,900
caller is unmuted please. Speaking of the spelling your name for the record.

4513
05:53:48,410 --> 05:53:57,390
Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I want to just want to applaud everybody to

4514
05:53:57,390 --> 05:54:08,950
step right here. Step up right here and comments being made. Pretty much I'm going to

4515
05:54:08,950 --> 05:54:13,270
to learn where your grantive authority is at.

4516
05:54:14,030 --> 05:54:17,010
And Mr. Boschovich, if you think he's noticed

4517
05:54:17,010 --> 05:54:18,670
as don't mean nothing,

4518
05:54:22,200 --> 05:54:23,140
you're going to find out

4519
05:54:23,140 --> 05:54:24,900
or take him seriously.

4520
05:54:26,700 --> 05:54:29,380
And I yell, I'm going to go on a pro, please.

4521
05:54:35,540 --> 05:54:37,480
Good afternoon or good evening.

4522
05:54:38,560 --> 05:54:41,720
Commissioners, my name's Emma Valendor,

4523
05:54:41,720 --> 05:54:47,520
EMA, VEL, ADOR, and I am from Amragosa Valley, Nevada.

4524
05:54:47,760 --> 05:54:51,060
I grew up in Peru, but I moved to Amragosa.

4525
05:54:52,220 --> 05:54:54,500
I love Peru, and I love Amragosa.

4526
05:54:55,420 --> 05:54:59,960
And I want to believe that you do care about the residents of Amragosa.

4527
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:11,400
Especially those who are totally against the Amragosa National Conservation Area. Our town manager,

4528
05:55:11,780 --> 05:55:21,060
I'm sorry, not our town manager, town board, chairwoman, chairman, has called it Ashmeadows National Conservation Area.

4529
05:55:21,580 --> 05:55:28,060
That's the song that's been sung to us. But in the documents that she has submitted to you folks and the public

4530
05:55:28,060 --> 05:55:35,460
plants, department of which I have seen many, it is the Amargo-Sanational Conservation Area,

4531
05:55:35,680 --> 05:55:42,880
and that's really scary. Because that means it's no longer just ash medows, or save ash

4532
05:55:42,880 --> 05:55:51,740
medows. It is the entire Amargo-Savali that is going to be converted into a national monument

4533
05:55:51,740 --> 05:55:58,060
or our national conservation area, which means that that's going to restrict our rights as

4534
05:55:58,060 --> 05:56:04,540
property owners, our wells. If they go dry, the conservation is so-called conservation thing,

4535
05:56:05,120 --> 05:56:10,020
can come in and say, you know what? If you're well as dry too bad, we're not going to let you

4536
05:56:10,020 --> 05:56:16,100
drill another well. Our taxes are going to go up. That's already been proven with other places,

4537
05:56:16,100 --> 05:56:26,680
where property taxes have gone up, where people live close to a conservation area, or a national conservation area, or a park.

4538
05:56:27,440 --> 05:56:31,620
We don't want that. We're not asking for that. We're not the ones looking for trouble.

4539
05:56:32,160 --> 05:56:37,680
So I don't understand why our chairman feels that she can be doing this to us.

4540
05:56:37,820 --> 05:56:40,480
Thank you very much. Okay, thank you so very much.

4541
05:56:41,400 --> 05:56:43,020
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

4542
05:56:43,020 --> 05:56:45,160
Yes, Chair Collar is a new day to please.

4543
05:56:45,300 --> 05:56:46,660
Speaking of the spelling of your name for the record.

4544
05:56:50,330 --> 05:56:50,910
Hello, Commissioner.

4545
05:56:51,210 --> 05:56:53,870
It's Michael David, we've got a C.A.R.C.A.A.

4546
05:56:54,250 --> 05:56:57,010
and I'll show you this in the last time I asked you today.

4547
05:56:57,390 --> 05:56:58,330
Looking at you here, me, okay.

4548
05:56:58,930 --> 05:56:59,290
Go ahead.

4549
05:56:59,610 --> 05:57:00,250
Go ahead.

4550
05:57:00,250 --> 05:57:02,310
It is the last time.

4551
05:57:03,570 --> 05:57:04,190
Thank you.

4552
05:57:04,190 --> 05:57:05,690
Thank you, thank you.

4553
05:57:06,170 --> 05:57:06,950
I appreciate it.

4554
05:57:06,950 --> 05:57:09,690
I hope I don't get charged for the laughter, but anyhow,

4555
05:57:10,250 --> 05:57:14,470
I want to start off on the right foot when it comes to spiritual warfare, spiritual attacks.

4556
05:57:14,470 --> 05:57:21,810
I definitely want to thank and praise the Jim Marsh family for sharing their Bible with us.

4557
05:57:21,830 --> 05:57:27,570
And I'm hoping that Jim and we'll bring it up and share some more verses with us.

4558
05:57:28,590 --> 05:57:30,170
And with God, nothing's impossible.

4559
05:57:31,010 --> 05:57:38,230
Everybody, our natural rights, our natural prosperity is under attack in every way, shape and form.

4560
05:57:38,650 --> 05:57:39,990
It's timely stand up.

4561
05:57:39,990 --> 05:57:47,990
we see it across, it's every county, every state, 2300 children, a day go missing in this country,

4562
05:57:48,430 --> 05:57:54,050
and we have a problem talking about it. As Christians, we need to rise, we need to rise,

4563
05:57:55,010 --> 05:58:01,910
you know, so for some of these rainbows, you need to go to the Bitticus 38, Romans 2627,

4564
05:58:01,910 --> 05:58:05,670
Fire does nothing without decoration and decree.

4565
05:58:06,090 --> 05:58:10,750
It's all about obedience, sin and Greek is when he missed the target.

4566
05:58:11,150 --> 05:58:14,890
Repent and Greek is when you adjust the mind.

4567
05:58:15,030 --> 05:58:18,050
It has nothing to do about your feelings you're remorse.

4568
05:58:18,790 --> 05:58:25,870
And for me, it's about Matthew, the discernment, plus revelations, plus Psalm 109, and let

4569
05:58:25,870 --> 05:58:29,850
state himself stand over your shoulders, but the liability is coming.

4570
05:58:30,370 --> 05:58:31,610
Civil and criminal,

4571
05:58:33,750 --> 05:58:37,630
little warm Christians, no problem, bring them all.

4572
05:58:38,170 --> 05:58:42,470
The devil only attacks what he owns, but he doesn't know.

4573
05:58:42,670 --> 05:58:45,550
Think about it, think about it, where are you at?

4574
05:58:45,770 --> 05:58:46,730
No bill or write.

4575
05:58:47,270 --> 05:58:49,250
What good is the constitutional oath?

4576
05:58:49,610 --> 05:58:50,330
Bring it.

4577
05:58:50,990 --> 05:58:53,110
355 times, doubt shall not fear.

4578
05:58:53,470 --> 05:58:54,750
Bring your DAs.

4579
05:58:54,910 --> 05:58:55,630
Bring your income.

4580
05:58:55,630 --> 05:58:58,390
I'm not going to go ahead.

4581
05:58:58,830 --> 05:59:02,090
NetFuentes, FU-A-N-T-E-S.

4582
05:59:03,250 --> 05:59:09,190
I think there's a misconception about the National Conservation Area only being for Amagosa

4583
05:59:09,190 --> 05:59:10,190
Ashtonados.

4584
05:59:10,610 --> 05:59:12,210
This is hence the word national.

4585
05:59:12,370 --> 05:59:13,690
This affects everybody.

4586
05:59:15,050 --> 05:59:20,810
So this will affect Toronto, Crystal, Johnny, off-road clubs, horseback riding, rock-hounding.

4587
05:59:20,810 --> 05:59:29,470
This national conservation area has been in the works for years with Susan Sorrows of Shoshone and Amragosa Conservancy Fish and Wildlife.

4588
05:59:29,870 --> 05:59:31,510
They've been working on this for a long time.

4589
05:59:31,650 --> 05:59:38,170
Remember, the 40-mile radius around Devils Hall, that was stopped because that would affect private property and water-right owners.

4590
05:59:38,490 --> 05:59:42,130
If this goes through, that will be implemented in effect stakeholders.

4591
05:59:42,510 --> 05:59:45,250
Then it was Lithium. Then they stopped that.

4592
05:59:45,330 --> 05:59:49,670
Now they want to put a 20-year withdrawal, mineral withdrawal around that.

4593
05:59:49,670 --> 05:59:54,830
There's pre-existing claims. It doesn't affect that. We have a lot of rich minerals there.

4594
05:59:54,950 --> 05:59:58,090
If you put in a 20-year mineral withdrawal, this will affect the...

4595
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:06,060
It's been mining there for over 60 years or good stewards of the land and they already have pre-existing claims.

4596
06:00:06,520 --> 06:00:11,120
So I don't know how the NCA will protect them. It could only hurt them if they closed off roads.

4597
06:00:11,620 --> 06:00:20,060
The town has been working on 18 solar farms. And so I just lost baseball dot.

4598
06:00:20,680 --> 06:00:27,300
They've been working on 18 solar farms. So how is that going to save us out there? They're going in.

4599
06:00:27,300 --> 06:00:32,660
So, taking 186,000 acres of land is going to do nothing to help us.

4600
06:00:32,720 --> 06:00:35,420
I'm asking you guys to please stop this.

4601
06:00:36,120 --> 06:00:37,420
We don't need this.

4602
06:00:37,640 --> 06:00:38,940
They've got enough of our land.

4603
06:00:39,540 --> 06:00:42,280
They're not good stewards of the land, so please stop it.

4604
06:00:42,400 --> 06:00:42,880
Thank you.

4605
06:00:43,200 --> 06:00:43,840
Thank you, Annette.

4606
06:00:43,960 --> 06:00:45,260
Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

4607
06:00:46,740 --> 06:00:47,540
I think you've already seen it.

4608
06:00:47,540 --> 06:00:48,040
No chair.

4609
06:00:57,340 --> 06:00:58,740
Oh, yeah, there is none.

4610
06:00:58,960 --> 06:00:59,640
It's a presentation.

4611
06:01:01,440 --> 06:01:01,620
Sorry.

4612
06:01:02,080 --> 06:01:02,660
Go ahead, Sam.

4613
06:01:05,680 --> 06:01:07,560
Come on up.

4614
06:01:17,130 --> 06:01:24,930
Paul Lima's LEM U.S. When he is judged, let him come forth guilty. That's

4615
06:01:24,930 --> 06:01:32,190
the palms 109 chapter 7 that the gentleman had requested for. I want to see today if anybody

4616
06:01:32,190 --> 06:01:37,610
is a victim of their HOA selectively enforcing them. In other words your neighbor gets in trouble

4617
06:01:37,610 --> 06:01:41,550
for having their garbage can out, you don't or vice versa.

4618
06:01:42,250 --> 06:01:45,150
There's a group with the real estate office buzzman.

4619
06:01:45,410 --> 06:01:46,930
This is on our website too.

4620
06:01:47,270 --> 06:01:49,890
Anybody can link in, you can make a complaint formally.

4621
06:01:50,670 --> 06:01:56,550
There's all kinds of complaint forms, by the way, on our website,govoversight.com for the

4622
06:01:56,550 --> 06:01:59,930
inspector general, a matter of fact, to associate with the condition of Ashmedos.

4623
06:02:00,290 --> 06:02:04,290
Maybe some people should go on there and go ahead and make a report associated with that.

4624
06:02:04,290 --> 06:02:06,910
But the OMS buzzman's office will come out.

4625
06:02:07,050 --> 06:02:11,410
They can do something called an alternative dispute resolution for you and your HOA, which

4626
06:02:11,410 --> 06:02:15,870
will give you a little bit more rights and stuff and balance the waters if you have some

4627
06:02:15,870 --> 06:02:17,750
kind of a tyrannical or out of control HOA.

4628
06:02:17,910 --> 06:02:20,190
I have some flyers here if anybody needs those.

4629
06:02:20,610 --> 06:02:26,090
These little quasi-governmental places right now are kind of being swarmed and taken over by

4630
06:02:26,090 --> 06:02:28,070
people that maybe not are of the spirit.

4631
06:02:28,850 --> 06:02:33,150
And so sometimes you might have to just call these guys to say, hey, I need a fair shake.

4632
06:02:33,150 --> 06:02:39,290
I wanted to drop off today. These are the documents that Mr. Marsh wanted me to drop off.

4633
06:02:39,310 --> 06:02:44,150
Could I leave them here on for the guests? This is from to each commissioner from Mr. Jim Marsh.

4634
06:02:44,450 --> 06:02:47,390
These are also some affected landowners who had no idea about this.

4635
06:02:47,510 --> 06:02:52,030
They absolutely did not want the Conservancy and I've made plenty of copies for all of you.

4636
06:02:52,890 --> 06:02:57,410
This here is the cease and desist letter to El Margosa Conservancy.

4637
06:02:58,210 --> 06:03:02,130
And I wish you take service today because I'd like to serve it to you.

4638
06:03:02,130 --> 06:03:03,510
Thank you.

4639
06:03:10,390 --> 06:03:14,090
Thank you very much. Have a good day. Thank you. Go ahead and tell my pop please.

4640
06:03:18,220 --> 06:03:22,020
Oh my daughter. Good evening. My daughter drew a couple of new guys.

4641
06:03:23,700 --> 06:03:25,140
I'm sorry, go ahead. Good evening.

4642
06:03:26,160 --> 06:03:29,120
Thank you. Good evening. My name is Matt Raider.

4643
06:03:29,460 --> 06:03:34,400
Our ADER. I'm the Amigos of River Project Manager for the Nature Conservancy.

4644
06:03:34,960 --> 06:03:42,100
I grew up in front of, I live in Haiti now, so it means a lot to me to have a chance to speak of a half of my organization today.

4645
06:03:42,960 --> 06:03:45,020
I want to clarify a few facts for the public record.

4646
06:03:46,060 --> 06:03:53,020
The Nature Conservancy is a science-based conservation organization dedicated to protecting the lands and waters to sustain people and nature.

4647
06:03:53,940 --> 06:04:00,580
The Nature Conservancy is not involved in the proposed national conservation area that's discussed today.

4648
06:04:00,580 --> 06:04:05,280
And we would not receive land or funding if the proposal were to move forward.

4649
06:04:06,000 --> 06:04:13,600
Nature Conservancy has worked to protect the unique species, habitats of water resources, of that Amragosa watershed for decades.

4650
06:04:14,600 --> 06:04:25,900
In 1983, the Nature Conservancy acquired more than 13,000 acres in Ashmedos to prevent the area from being developed into a proposed 20,000 lot subdivision.

4651
06:04:25,900 --> 06:04:35,040
The land was later transferred to the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, and Ash Meadows National Wildlife Refuge was established in 1984.

4652
06:04:36,040 --> 06:04:45,760
The Refuge protects springs, wetlands, and desert habitats that support a remarkable diversity of plants and wildlife, including many species, found or else in the world.

4653
06:04:45,760 --> 06:04:52,220
However, the Nature Conservancy does not own land within the refuge today and is not involved

4654
06:04:52,220 --> 06:04:55,560
with the National Conservation Area that's being discussed.

4655
06:04:56,140 --> 06:04:58,200
I really appreciate the opportunity to provide this clarification.

4656
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:07,720
And ensure the public record accurately reflects the Nature Conservancy's role with respect to the proposal being discussed.

4657
06:05:08,820 --> 06:05:10,020
Thank you, and have a nice night.

4658
06:05:10,560 --> 06:05:12,840
Thank you very much, sir. Come on down and for room, please.

4659
06:05:18,140 --> 06:05:30,720
Mason Vale, V-O-E-A-H-L, for the record. I am the Executive Director of Amber Ghost Conservancy, a local nonprofit organization with a mission of working toward a sustainable future for the Amber Ghost River through science, stewardship and advocacy.

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06:05:30,720 --> 06:05:36,220
On a clarify, organization is a private, non-governmental organization with no role or authority

4661
06:05:36,220 --> 06:05:41,520
whatsoever in the management of Ashmedos, therefore concerns about management and need

4662
06:05:41,520 --> 06:05:43,720
to be addressed to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

4663
06:05:44,880 --> 06:05:48,680
Anyone who follows the work of our organization knows that over the years we have showed

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06:05:48,680 --> 06:05:54,740
up again and again before this commission, town boards, tribal councils, communities throughout

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06:05:54,740 --> 06:05:59,340
the region, and the spirit of respect and cooperation to address threats facing the

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06:05:59,340 --> 06:06:04,040
to go to River and to help shape solutions to give the river and everyone that depends on it

4667
06:06:04,040 --> 06:06:08,500
a fighting chance of the future. Just three years ago I stood right here, came before the

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06:06:08,500 --> 06:06:12,440
county to raise the alarm about rover critical minerals and then reckless lithium mining

4669
06:06:12,440 --> 06:06:17,360
proposal on the doorstep of Ashmedos. Together with the county support we were able to stop

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that threat in its tracks and that's an example of the kind of work organization it's here to

4671
06:06:22,340 --> 06:06:28,600
do to protect water and wildlife in that county. Everyone has the right to express their views,

4672
06:06:28,600 --> 06:06:32,500
participate in public processes that determine how our lands and waters are managed.

4673
06:06:32,880 --> 06:06:37,340
In fact, it's critical that everyone that cares about places like Ashmedos and the

4674
06:06:37,340 --> 06:06:39,540
Amigosarriver continue to do so.

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Our organization enjoys and exercises that right of free speech as well.

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We look forward to continuing to address the myriad threats to the Amigosarriver in the spirit

4677
06:06:48,600 --> 06:06:52,800
of respect and cooperation with NICounty and its communities, because Chair Baskovich

4678
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was correct in his opening remarks this morning.

4679
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We have to figure this out together.

4680
06:06:56,740 --> 06:07:00,500
Thank you, commissioners. Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

4681
06:07:04,220 --> 06:07:04,360
Yeah.

4682
06:07:04,780 --> 06:07:05,480
My name

4683
06:07:09,570 --> 06:07:13,610
is Cindy Bdn to be the I.E.N.T.

4684
06:07:14,430 --> 06:07:25,450
I am, I have a place in Amorgosa and Crystal, and I can't talk about, I say no to the N.C.I. have did a lot of research, and

4685
06:07:25,450 --> 06:07:33,070
the while, and I'm officially came out there, and they're trying to do the same thing they did to us, and they were in our properties out there.

4686
06:07:33,070 --> 06:07:36,830
So I say no. Thank you. Thank you very much.

4687
06:07:37,850 --> 06:07:38,730
Come on, Victor.

4688
06:07:43,700 --> 06:07:45,960
Victor Fuentes, FUE, NTS.

4689
06:07:48,060 --> 06:07:50,700
Well, we have a environmentalist over here today.

4690
06:07:51,180 --> 06:07:53,360
That is good to see, you know?

4691
06:07:54,500 --> 06:07:57,380
They protect everything. They protect everything.

4692
06:07:57,380 --> 06:07:58,840
They protect everything. They set us the human.

4693
06:07:59,560 --> 06:08:04,040
We are the endangered species in Amarosa and Agmeiros.

4694
06:08:04,040 --> 06:08:12,860
in Asmerals, they have killed everything, I don't see one thing that they are saving in Asmerals.

4695
06:08:14,920 --> 06:08:20,080
And every one here in this room can go over there and see with their own eyes,

4696
06:08:20,600 --> 06:08:21,940
but they have done to Asmerals.

4697
06:08:22,500 --> 06:08:28,380
When these people talk Asmerals, you know, a fishing wildlife, it was a beauty, it was a oasis.

4698
06:08:28,960 --> 06:08:33,620
People can write their horses, they can go over there and, you know,

4699
06:08:33,620 --> 06:08:40,180
They, the families, they go over there, they have a lot of recreation over there, they have a lot of fun and a lot of people

4700
06:08:40,780 --> 06:08:47,320
theybra, you know, many of you are here in this room, they enjoy the place, they used to enjoy the place.

4701
06:08:47,920 --> 06:08:53,320
You got to watch metal today, and it's a fire waiting to happen.

4702
06:08:54,300 --> 06:09:00,740
Because the last thing that they have done is to drain the rest of it, and with that whole bunch of fish, die, and my property,

4703
06:09:01,320 --> 06:09:06,740
Every time they cut off my water, my water is cut off right now, as we speak, is cut off right now.

4704
06:09:07,040 --> 06:09:12,320
You can go over there to my property now and see the fish dying, and the water right now.

4705
06:09:12,840 --> 06:09:17,160
They are not saving anything, they are destroying everything in Ashmeros.

4706
06:09:18,060 --> 06:09:24,080
And so I don't see why, we should give in these people one more inch of land.

4707
06:09:24,680 --> 06:09:42,460
Because they don't produce anything, you know, all the water, we have 60 million gallon of water, the other side, they go through there and I go straight to California, with a city center, all of a night county could even touch the water, we can only see it, see it, going by.

4708
06:09:42,760 --> 06:09:46,040
Thank you Victor. So no, no to the NCA. Thank you.

4709
06:09:46,080 --> 06:09:47,920
Sam, do you want anybody on the phone for us, please?

4710
06:09:50,320 --> 06:09:50,660
No chair.

4711
06:10:01,580 --> 06:10:09,400
Hey, my name is Ben Burr, that last time is B-U-R-R, and I was invited out here by some friends

4712
06:10:09,400 --> 06:10:14,920
here in Amigos Valley. I'm the executive director of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. We are a national

4713
06:10:14,920 --> 06:10:22,620
non-profit that does legal and advocacy work to keep public lands open for recreation. And we've

4714
06:10:22,620 --> 06:10:31,080
got called out here because we heard there's this proposed national conservation area. And we wanted

4715
06:10:31,080 --> 06:10:38,280
conservation areas in other states, and the work that groups like the gentleman that

4716
06:10:38,280 --> 06:10:43,760
just spoke to use public land designations for federal government designations to lock

4717
06:10:43,760 --> 06:10:50,120
up our public land. And I'm here, I'm learning about this, and I just wanted to offer our

4718
06:10:50,120 --> 06:10:54,500
services, we will be educating your community and your constituents about the dangers that

4719
06:10:54,500 --> 06:10:58,460
come with the National Conservation Area in the way they reduce access to those public

4720
06:10:58,460 --> 06:11:00,720
and we hope you will take that under

4721
06:11:00,720 --> 06:11:03,480
advisement and in the consideration as this

4722
06:11:03,480 --> 06:11:04,620
proposal that seems to be in

4723
06:11:04,620 --> 06:11:05,860
its early stages of development

4724
06:11:06,460 --> 06:11:08,740
move forward. Thank you.

4725
06:11:08,800 --> 06:11:11,360
Thank you, sir Sam, anybody else please?

4726
06:11:13,110 --> 06:11:13,630
No chair.

4727
06:11:13,810 --> 06:11:16,230
We're going to close public comment and

4728
06:11:16,230 --> 06:11:17,990
move to 20, two please.

4729
06:11:23,320 --> 06:11:24,920
20, two please.

4730
06:11:31,370 --> 06:11:32,470
He means the other two.

4731
06:11:35,390 --> 06:11:37,130
Mr. Manager comments.

4732
06:11:37,890 --> 06:11:39,790
This item is limited to announcements,

4733
06:11:40,110 --> 06:11:40,750
brief discussions,

4734
06:11:40,750 --> 06:11:43,830
the public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies,

4735
06:11:44,110 --> 06:11:47,890
direction of staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings.

4736
06:11:48,550 --> 06:11:52,810
I think the liberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada

4737
06:11:52,810 --> 06:11:56,270
Open Meeting Law. All right, thank you for that, Mr. Bane.

4738
06:11:58,460 --> 06:11:59,240
Nope, come and stretch.

4739
06:12:04,870 --> 06:12:07,370
Thank you, everybody, for being here today.

4740
06:12:07,590 --> 06:12:12,370
Commissioner Strickla. Thank you, everybody. I know we're trying to adjust this two minute

4741
06:12:12,370 --> 06:12:19,350
time, 79 minutes were saved, which is almost an hour and 20 minutes. We could be here until seven

4742
06:12:19,350 --> 06:12:23,870
o'clock or we could get our business done and our employees and the staff that works so hard

4743
06:12:23,870 --> 06:12:26,250
to be here and help us can have a life.

4744
06:12:26,390 --> 06:12:32,610
It'd be on this. Commissioner Coney, and they're getting paid overtime. It's right. Which we don't

4745
06:12:32,610 --> 06:12:38,170
want. I've heard a lot of conversations today about this week. Excuse me. Excuse me. That is

4746
06:12:38,170 --> 06:12:40,990
a very profound statement. Thank you very much.

4747
06:12:41,470 --> 06:12:46,170
Because every employee is listening to us because they may need to call in to give us information.

4748
06:12:46,650 --> 06:12:47,290
Thank you, sir.

4749
06:12:47,910 --> 06:12:52,550
Very lucky today about national conservation, something or another that no one has ever come

4750
06:12:52,550 --> 06:13:00,870
to me about voting, we just know or otherwise about it. So they ever come here. Maybe you

4751
06:13:00,870 --> 06:13:05,610
guys want to come back and talk about it then, instead of now because we don't know what you're

4752
06:13:05,610 --> 06:13:10,350
So my opinion, better great meeting,

4753
06:13:13,190 --> 06:13:14,370
and I guess I'm done.

4754
06:13:18,010 --> 06:13:19,050
Thank you, Commissioner.

4755
06:13:20,630 --> 06:13:21,190
I'm good.

4756
06:13:21,390 --> 06:13:23,290
I just want to thank everybody for being here.

4757
06:13:23,670 --> 06:13:30,030
And again, I'm going to remind everybody that we're in this as landowners and property owners

4758
06:13:30,330 --> 06:13:34,530
or landowners and citizens and families and everything else here.

4759
06:13:35,610 --> 06:13:38,870
So it's much easier if we try to figure out and work together.

4760
06:13:38,870 --> 06:13:45,110
And please understand that just because we don't maybe necessarily agree with every single thing

4761
06:13:45,110 --> 06:13:49,100
You say or or sometimes even demand. It's like

4762
06:13:49,710 --> 06:13:57,750
With there's 55,000 of us not just this room. So, but thank you and we are out at 5.49

4763
06:13:59,210 --> 06:14:04,080
Actually hold on. Are there any other managers or directors we're back in?

4764
06:14:04,940 --> 06:14:05,500
Okay.

4765
06:14:05,820 --> 06:14:06,500
Now we're out.

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06:14:06,880 --> 06:14:09,520
Safe trip to those that are driving home from Tonepa.