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She's ready. All right, let's, uh, morning everybody, uh, rise with me, if you like, for Pastor John Biggs from, say, by Grace Lutheran Church. Oh,

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I'm sorry.

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Good morning commissioners. And thank you for having me here today.

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A word from Romans chapter 12. All rights hate. What is evil? Clean to what is good. Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. Share with those who are in need.

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need, practice, hospitality. Do not repay anyone evil for evil but respect what is right in

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the eyes of everyone, and if it is possible as far as it depends on you, live it peace

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with everyone. Word of the Lord. Thanks be to God.

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Let us pray.

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Almighty God you have called us the labor in this world for you and for our neighbor, and

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And without you, we can do nothing.

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And so we ask you today for your wisdom, discernment, and guidance, both for our nigh-county commissioners

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as well as for all those who are gathered here today.

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So give our commissioners clear minds, listening ears, and fair hearts as they make decisions

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affecting our county's budget infrastructure and daily well-being, grant them humility and

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a deep sense of service to the people they represent.

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and by your spirit grant every person who has come here today wisdom in their

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thinking grace in their attitudes and above all love and courage in their

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convictions. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you pastor. All right we're

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gonna call this joint meeting of the Night County Board of County Commissioners

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at all together. Commissioner Coney, would you like to lead us to

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the flag of the

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Just a very public for which it stands, one nation under that, invisible.

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Thank you.

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All right, do we have our DA and tone up all?

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Yes.

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Morning, Bryant.

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Hey, can we limit public comment to two minutes please?

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At your discretion.

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Thank you.

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Two minute public comment.

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Number two please.

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Item two, general public comment, up to two-minute time limit per person. Public comment will be for all matters off the agenda. Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the Board of County Commissioners. Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item. Thank you very much for that. Come on down, Mr. Pittman, and it is not functioning today, but it will be next meeting.

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Stephen Pittman, PIT, MN, now that the Department of Environmental Protection has given a green light to many waste, will you deny building occupancy and operating permits?

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Who does the inspection of waste to ensure that it does not include prohibited items specified on pages three and four of the permit fact sheet?

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There is yet no end-depth approved plan for the disposal of residue ash in Nevada.

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How will the exhaust from the process be monitored and by whom?

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And prompt Valley Fire effectively respond to a fire at the facility.

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The chief just told me that he has to revisit the facility to see that it is in compliance.

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This is not the kind of industry where up needs.

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My second item is, why does Commissioner Bain use a personal Gmail account when the other commissioners use the official at NyeCountyNV.gov account?

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that are archived on county servers.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Oh, yes, Amy Nelson.

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Any L, S, O, N, a couple of things.

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We attend to items, people that are familiar with what's going on.

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And even those that are have a tough time reading

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I mean, what these items are about, it might be the best thing to do is to inform the public

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what they're about, basically, in a sort of format.

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The other thing is public comment, I was going to ask if he would put it back to five minutes,

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But I now realize that it doesn't matter that we have public comment, and you would

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do away with it altogether if you could, and that's unfortunate.

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We have a good meeting.

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Thank you.

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Come on down in front, please.

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Good morning, commissioners, and everybody, Beth Boersevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

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I'm really happy to be here.

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I haven't been here but I have been working really hard behind the scenes.

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You know the dirt racetrack that's up on Basin, people were interested in having that

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renovated, however the land has been sold and so it's not available.

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So I've already put together a prospectus investments.

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You name it.

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I've got like a 45 page document that I'd like to talk to somebody on the commission here.

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so that we can find some land away from homes, not at the fairgrounds for one of these race tracks.

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It would be a very good income-producing activity for the town, not only in RVs,

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but in going to the stores and, you know, charges for getting into the races.

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So I think that's like a high priority you should put on your list of income-producing activities.

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The splash pad is a total disgust, have you guys seen the cease and desist order?

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You have.

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You've not shared it with the county, well, I'll be getting a copy tomorrow now, be

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sharing it with everybody.

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We want to talk to somebody about what we're going to do about this.

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It is the town's money and Mr. Martinez in his group screwed up royally.

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We need to fix that big time.

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MetaWaste, you know, was approved.

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I've got forms available for people that might want to fill it out and mail it in with

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potential suggestions on how to fill in all of the different form areas.

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And I've also got the original approval letter that must go with your complaint.

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So I've been busy and I'll be around a lot again, so don't get mad at me, but I'll

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I'll be here.

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Thanks.

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Welcome back.

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And I agree with you.

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Thank you, I have a joint here in Tonopos please.

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Hi, Mr. DeVore.

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Yes, I see her smiling face.

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Go ahead, Ms. Jony.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate the opportunity.

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The old Tonopos cemetery was in use between 1901 and 1911 in Tonopos.

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All right, thank you very, very early days until the West End mining company needed to move through that area with its tailings. And included in the burials in that cemetery besides minors and prostitutes, gunfighters, men, women and children are many veterans, more than 20 veterans of the American Civil War, the Spanish American War and the Philippine insurrection.

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I worked with the senator Edward D Baker, camp 31, sons of the union veterans of the civil

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war in Las Vegas and we ordered headstones through the veterans administration which is

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free for nine of those veterans of these wars.

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We are going to be dedicating those headstones and the reenactors will be coming up from Las

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Vegas at one o'clock on September 6th. That's a Sunday, and we're going to hold a formal

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dedication of those headstones, and we'll even have cannons there to set off to commemorate

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this event. Afterwards, there will be a reception at the Tonapa Elk's Lodge. This is just an invitation

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for anybody who would like to participate. Thank you.

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Thank you, Joni, and very nice to see you.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

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Yes, chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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I'm on dial miss Hertz.

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Good morning, Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z.

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I would like, if you would, please, in your comment section this morning to answer to us,

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who's the person who decides how many minutes the public has to speak and how that's decided.

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I think we'd all like to know that having just sprung two minute limitations on us this morning without warning.

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Secondly, in that comment section, I would appreciate it if you would reinstate your affirming

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statements and actions that meta-waste is not in a position to open a facility here

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in Perump as has been discussed in the past and whether or not you're going to write

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a letter of protest to the Environmental Protection State Agency about it.

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As you know, we citizens are absolutely not in favor, absolutely against.

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Metaways coming into this community, and I would hope that you continue to make sure

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that doesn't happen.

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Also, I would like to comment and reaffirm the fact that we know that we have limited

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limited water resources in our water basin.

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And I would seriously like to know why the RPC is allowed to and doesn't have any kind

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of direction or limitation regarding approval of massive housing projects and massive industrial

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projects in our base and these requests keep coming through.

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Thank you.

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Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

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Yes, Chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Yes.

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My Patricia Bravo, the RLBB regarding the utility challenge lot.

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The problem seems to be stagnant when risk analysis becomes risk paralysis because possible

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solutions that don't further impact our aquifer or burden other taxpayers are rejected

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over what could go wrong progress does not happen.

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So instead of thinking what if something goes wrong maybe you should be asking how can

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we make this work safely for these owners based on our interactions with the board over the

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last year and a half, I'm not sensing that alternatives are genuinely being considered.

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It feels more like they're continually being pushed aside, yet our entire community could

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benefit from supplemental alternatives, not just utility-challenge-lot owners.

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We're not saying alternatives are better than conventional utilities, but they do

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We will offer a pathway forward where utility infrastructure may not exist in our lifetime if ever. And saying it to go wrong isn't really a standard. Conventional systems can go wrong, too. Welles can become contaminated and septic systems can fail. Yet government doesn't normally say because somebody failed to maintain something, nobody can use it.

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So, are we evaluating alternatives against objective health and safety standards or against

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belief that conventional utilities are the only acceptable way to meet those standards.

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When alternatives can meet them too, having supplemental water back at should simply be

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common sense for everyone.

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We've identified the problems, proposed safeguards, drafted amendments, ordinances, provided justification

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and identified supporting state laws.

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Now we're here to move forward.

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Hello, and from, go ahead.

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Why two minutes?

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Good morning.

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Cheryl Varkellis, VIA's Invictor, ARKA-LIS.

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On behalf of Perump, please submit an appeal

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to the Nevada Department of Environmental Protection

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to oppose the meta-waste.

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Time is of the essence, and appeals are

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due by September the 10th.

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The middle of Perump is not the place

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for this facility that will burn 41 tons a day. They changed that number. In their

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comment document that was sent out on August 31st and we haven't had a lot of time to review it,

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it was originally 16.8. They stated that they corrected an error. So the number has doubled,

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almost doubled in half, okay? So somebody needs to look at that please.

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Under the people attended and spoke at the Nevada Treasures on July the 7th.

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The meeting room was packed, it was a ballroom, and everyone there except for the folks

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from Medowaste were in an opposition.

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But they approved, end up approved it despite 334 public comments, that's their number.

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They improperly executed mandatory procedural requirements under NAC 444.6419.

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We have to have a legal basis and that is one of them.

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They failed to properly document published or logically factor substantial public feedback

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into the final decision.

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They admitted in their response, it simply states, quote, given the volume of comments received

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334 submissions. The division is prepared to consolidate a response in lieu of individual

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responses to each submission comments are grouped by subject matter.

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And I quote from

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their response comments concerning air quality, county land use approvals, transportation,

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property values, or other matters outside the division's authority are only acknowledged.

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Last time I checked air quality is an in-depth environmental protection issue.

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Thank you very much, ma'am.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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Yes, chair of the Collarance Unmuted, please speak in the spell your name for the record.

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Excuse me.

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This is Paula Thompson, CHOMPSOM, I also would like to know if the board will be submitting

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appeal to oppose the med waste plant in Toronto.

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our community is not a dumping ground for California but California deal with

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their own medical waste on their own land and leave us alone. Thank you.

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Thank you. Come on down, ma'am.

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Sharon Cruz, normally I would say-

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Excuse me, can you spell it for the record?

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Sorry, C-R-U-I-S-E.

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Thank you.

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Normally I'd say good morning, however, this is not a good morning for the

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residents. Yes, today as you all know, the Department of Environmental Protection

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granted many ways they're permit to function here.

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So I employ all of you to keep the residents of Perum safe by taking immediate action to stop many ways from operating in our town.

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The action of MDEP is outrageous. It's an outrageous disregard for the safety and well-being of those of us living in Perum.

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They will send daily multiple 53-foot tractor trailers with toxic medical ways from California,

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traveling on out two major roadways, Route 372, with two roundabouts, and Route 160, which is the

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center of town. Not if, but when there is an accident causing toxic medical waste to spill on

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our roadways, they will shut out town down, causing catastrophic damage to the health and safety

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of the route residents. Just a couple of items that it will cause regarding public health.

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Exposing...

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High...

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The infection viruses, like HIV, hepatitis B and C, exposing pathogens that are airborne,

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that lead to severe outbreaks of tuberculosis, gastrointestinal infections, and respiratory illnesses.

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Not to mention the contamination based on 62, our only source of water. Due to untreated

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downward resulting in our entire water infrastructure being permanently corrupted.

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Byachie Flores has already stated that his department does not have the capacity to handle

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a hazardous water spill.

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By the way, the additional...

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Thank you very much, ma'am.

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That's okay.

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I'll leave the rest for...

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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You can leave it with Serena if you'd like.

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Yes, chair.

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The caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Good

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morning, commissioners, Lorraine, G-I-L-B-E-R-G, once again, I am sorry I'm not Erin

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Ferguson.

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I am sending you good energy, solid knowledge to make decisions that matter and make a

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difference on behalf of those that you represent.

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I would also just ask you to please not forget those that have been forgotten for the last

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50 years, the utility challenge law owners. Some of you will be leaving this board of county

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commissioners at the end of this year. Let that be your legacy that you finally brought

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restitution and peace and restored value. I know that the Harump Regional Planning Commission

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was working on a off-grid overlay. I would encourage you to continue to work with them.

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It does matter, and it makes a difference to 7,000 lives.

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In addition, the meta-based, I am just a call how that was brought forward when I was

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at that meeting at Treasurer, and it was overwhelming the number of people that said,

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no.

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I'm not saying that medical waste isn't needed, but not in the location where it is going

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and I do not want to drive my car to DMV

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to renew my tech to have to breathe in that stuff.

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I don't want to shop at Albertton's,

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just down the street and it has to breathe that in.

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I don't want to go to one of my favorite restaurants

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or cafes or visit shops that I shop in that area.

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It is just not a safe venture for us.

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And I would hope that you would use your power

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and your authority to report that decision on those permits.

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Thank you, Lorraine.

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I ask you.

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Come on down, Diane.

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Diane, South-Earth S-O-U-T-H-W-O-R-T-H.

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For a little levity, I saw on Facebook where we want to make September 25th, Dolly Parton Day.

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And I think it's a great idea.

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And, of course, the reason is the date 925.

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Now, also I'd like to bring up, that's my good news.

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The bad news is that the executive order is that the president is

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putting out voting about vote by mail and the SAVE Act.

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Our unconstitutional, it is up to the states to do their elections.

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And these are unconstitutional rules.

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I have said here many times and listen to people wave their constitutions around over other things.

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I'd like to see him get out of that one. Thank you.

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Thank you, Diane. Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

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Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Yes, Kimbos, VOHA and NOM.

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I'm concerned that there seems to be a reducing or cut back of public comment.

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There's a couple of situations on today that there will be a cutback of public comment and some not allowed.

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So, the people need to be able to have voice.

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Even if it seems trivial, even if it seems all face, we have to have voice.

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And that's what we count on.

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Candidates, attention to it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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come on down please improve.

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You're a lackey LACKY? The problem that we have here that you can-

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So what you guys have is, it's the manufactured homes. The people that live in the manufactured homes, that's your problem. See, they're not that taxed, you know, not like the big houses with the, with a ceramic tile roof and the, and the block walls. And they're going to be tax forever every single time. But there also, also all the developments are all on the infrastructure so that it could be easily piped in from water from, say, Clark County or something like that. Later on, after our waters,

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bad gone dead, killing everybody from your waste, the stuff that you're bringing in, you're

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bringing it in, and you're trying to chase out the people that don't have a lot of money.

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That's what it is.

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I mean, it's all about the money.

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Your whole lives are just leaching off other people, working for government, not doing anything

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good, just bringing in more bad, taking the money from the bad elements and just producing

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it, whatever, whatever trickles down from above, nothing happened to do with the people.

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And God we trust right behind you. Good thing it's behind you. Something would fall on

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your head. If you were facing up, praise all day. But you know, here we are, you know, it's

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all about the water. So now once the water's bad, all the money making properties for you

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guys are all going to be easily fed from a pipe from somewhere else because they're already

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tied together. They're already on a system. You know that. That's why you got them come

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together. You don't see them all spread out once in a while you'll see another

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development like the one right behind. Well it's all about the water. Well for you

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guys it's all about getting the people out of here living manufactured homes. I

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think that's what your mission is pretty clear. How much money you get from one of

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those properties got a manufactured home on it of some sort. You don't get much

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tax money for those properties as you do for the ones with the block walls.

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Thanks, Carol.

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Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

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Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

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Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Excuse me.

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All right.

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She can leave.

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And Chair, the caller is not unmuted.

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I'm having a system issue, so I'm going to take.

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Okay, come on down, please.

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Thank you.

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Good morning, commissioners.

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My name is Mary Rose.

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Last name is Parkman.

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Spelled P-A-R-K-N-A-N.

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It's a little bit of a tough act to follow, so let me start off with something.

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There's a Greek philosopher that once said, we have two ears and one mouth.

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That means to please listen twice as much as we speak.

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And ironically, here I am speaking, but I'm asking you to listen, please.

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And my concern is I understand in the instances of August 18, when there were 203 comments

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between in-person and calls.

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And I know that there's a budget expectation when that many more calls come in.

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But why is it necessary for the BOCC to announce two minutes or so into the start of a meeting

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or maybe 10.05 a.m., that the comments are reduced to two minutes when you can tell.

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We don't have 200 people at capacity, so that is a concern.

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As to meta-waste, I don't need to repeat too much, but I would implore the community and

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BOCC to reach out to Assemblyman Hathen, but I've been told, this is a state issue, not

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the county issue, which I entirely disagree.

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So I think we need to do the same as there were three almost 400 people at the Treasurer's Town Hall which was a very big appeal to Nevada Department of Environmental Protection.

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So for those reasons, I appreciate you listening twice as much, even though I'm speaking with one mouth.

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I represent a lot of others.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, ma'am.

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Say I'm anybody on the phone, please.

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I'm still out of places.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, in front, please.

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Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

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I was a little late coming in, so I was not aware of the two-minute reduction again.

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I don't know what the excuse can be for that, but this time,

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besides you guys trying to silence us even more.

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Starting with that, again, I'm requesting for Mrs. Strickling to recuse herself

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from any and all matters regarding utility companies or data centers.

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Next, the Medi-based.

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How in the world did the planning commission...

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I would like to begin with a blank check to build whatever they wanted on that site. No

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inquisition onto what it's entailed, what hazards could be, nothing. And then this board

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decided it wasn't worth them to review or even to vote on. How is that possible?

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I like

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an answer on that one because now we're screwed, but you guys already knew this, because that's

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the reason you did it that way. Now, it's a Nevada State Environmental Agency that's

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trying to get their lawyers to fight our fight for us.

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This is the most incompetency I've

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ever seen. And for what you guys get paid, and my apologies, last time I spoke, I said

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260,000. Mr. Wagner, I was wrong. It's 316,000 that you earned a year. So laugh at me now.

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laugh at me now. I like we spend over we spend $64 million in county payroll. But yet we brought in

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57.7 million. Explain that to me. And then we have things like the splash pad and Mrs.

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Strickland here is going to sit here and praise Jimmy Martinez for the work done. Are you kidding me?

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You guys can't even do so much of a splash pad, right? Let alone something like the data center or the medic waste.

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Say anybody on the phone now, please.

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Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

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Yes, Ron Mortensen, M-O-R-K-I-N-S-S-O-N. First, I'd like to congratulate John Coderig on the wonderful job he did.

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the meeting, a couple meetings back. It went very, very smoothly. You know, if we had John

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Colton's experience, the meeting, maybe he wouldn't feel the need to restrict the time

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that people could see.

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Yeah, that's what I got. Thank you.

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Thank you. Come on down, sir. Can you mute him or shut him off for some?

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Good morning. I don't want to cast any dispersions, but before I get started,

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And you please spell your name for the record sir. Oh, I'm I'm starting yet. I just want to do an insertion before I get started. No, no, that's not you've started.

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Change the rules on me. But anyway, my name is on for Hodge and greetings. I'm a patriot and a God is my shepherd. Media is not a friend of the public at large.

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I am amazed at the lack of empathy and concern for each and every human being on the planet.

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Regardless of their status, where is the crowd now, where are the Christian people,

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where is their mercy and feelings for other human beings, where are they?

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First, I ask the question, when something goes wrong, where is the leadership? Protect and serve? What does that mean? Are they just words? Are they just pertain to one segment of the population?

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Where are you finding these people to serve in law enforcement? Are they high-calibre or just a body and a uniform?

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form. Are they really trained to work with the public? I hear often times as

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with their own regime, they have personality conflicts. In this area we need

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good leaders and good people in that job that really protect and serve. I was

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motivated by the newspaper. It reminded how blacks, so I'm from that era, were

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are treated in Mississippi by law enforcement in the 60s.

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This must stop other saga continues.

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We must find, we must have and well-trained people in these jobs that also have patients.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Hodges, can we have, can we have that rent for our records, please?

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Can you provide, can you give that staff so we can have it for our records?

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Please, she can give it to someone.

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Thank you. Sam, you got anybody on the phone please?

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All right. Sam, anybody on the phone please?

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No chair. Come on up.

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I can go. Yes.

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Linda Clark, CLAR K. First of all,

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I won't say it. I want to thank Ann for giving us the ban. I'm not sure how far we're going to get with it, but at least we got something to start with and work with. As far as the other things going on in this town, definitely don't need a waste center. We don't need a glove factory.

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We don't need a lot of things that you guys have put in front of us.

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But we keep getting it, we keep fighting.

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I just want to let you know, elections do have consequences, so be prepared.

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The other thing I want to say is, it's really embarrassing to live in this community and

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know that we have a government that doesn't support its people.

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Thank you.

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Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

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I wonder where the screen's going on.

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No chair.

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come on up sir.

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Don't know how you do hear us, correct? Yes we hear you loud and clear.

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Oh thank you. Good morning everyone. Bruce Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. And first of all I'm going to question

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your authority to remove this lady. I'm going to question your authority on your action. So I'm going

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to start off with a little scripture here. This is Luke 1152. Especially since we probably have a

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couple attorneys out here in the seats. It says, well, into you, lawyers, for you have

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taken away the key of knowledge, you entered, not into yourselves, and them that were

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entering in the end. Now, I'm going to move on to you guys, received a new notice from me,

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this morning should be in your inbox. I don't know if you took the time to read it or not,

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But it's only one page pretty simple.

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You probably don't give a rat's booty.

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But I really don't care because it's my quarter record.

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So this is to all of you, including Brent Wagner,

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Susan Raihaal, Susan Steve Osborne,

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Camerata, Sheriff Joe McGill.

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It's also addressed as a Supreme Court and Todd Blanche,

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Donald Trump.

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And I'll tell you, you sit there and roll your eyes.

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They already have a copy of this.

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So, this is a notice in demand for liability, all attorneys advising upon the rights of the people.

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Notice to ages, notice principals, notice principals, notice to ages.

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Iber Johnson, one of the people has seen in 50 state constitutions of right and

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next-sizing power over all jurisdictions, and include you, okay?

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Do you present you with this notice that you and your agents may provide immediate due care?

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please take notice. We the people have assembled it and realized that as servants, that's you guys,

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may have attorneys who advise you on what you can do in regards to unconstitutionally exercising

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power over the people. However, as servants, it is you who put out, thank you sir, action

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to

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As the chair for the night county independent American party for night county and the national committee for the Constitution party on September 17th, we are having a Constitution dinner celebrating George Washington, our speakers will be telling us about our constitutional civil and our property rights and we're going to be having some speakers who've been extorted by some people in the community.

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So that will be at treasures at 6 o'clock at night on September 17th, Constitution Day.

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Tickets are available, 877, Paramp is the phone number.

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Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

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No chair.

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Come on down, Tammy.

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Good morning, Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N.

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Meda waste is going to come back to the Board of County Commissioners, just because Endept gave them a pass does not mean Paramp has to approve.

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Several months ago, the B.O.CC directed Mr. Osborne to give regular planning and permit status updates at the B.O.C.C. meetings.

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We've not heard from Mr. Osborne since, but the citizens should know there are good news on the horizon.

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Recently, I learned that Cooby, manufacturing is slating to build a plant here behind Home Depot.

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Not far from there, at the old racetrack, is a Las Vegas company that manufactures building trusses, which is

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Approved its operations to Perump. A large plumbing supply company and Ace Hardware owner

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are renting the good old goodwill building for two years to house both a plumbing supply

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company and an Ace Hardware while they build their own facility here in town. And the

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Silverton is still in the hopper as well. We have lots to celebrate. We do not need to be

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a toxic waste repository for the southwest. We have a lot to offer and we deserve better than

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to live in a toxic soup.

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As we live in a valley surrounded by 360 degrees of mountains,

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the toxic gases released when they opened those ovens

441
00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:40,980
would hang in the valley.

442
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200
Later this month, due to a hard fought appeal,

443
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:46,040
thank you to John O'Brien.

444
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:49,940
You will have the ability to reverse the RPC's decision

445
00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:51,480
and we are counting on you.

446
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:52,400
Thank you.

447
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,040
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

448
00:40:55,580 --> 00:41:00,500
Yes, Chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

449
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:08,610
Hello, commissioners. Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me? Is my tone

450
00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:09,930
in volume okay for you?

451
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,880
I'm sorry. Go ahead, sir. Hello.

452
00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:19,790
Hello. Can you hear me? Go ahead, sir.

453
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:27,570
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. That would be Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A.

454
00:41:27,570 --> 00:41:34,610
And once again, I'm still baffled on my free speech and what's protected here.

455
00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:39,450
So if it's state and federal guidelines that I'm not allowed to talk about, I respectfully

456
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,590
ask for y'all to remove those flags.

457
00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:50,270
If I'm not allowed to pray and quote, scripture, I'm going to respectfully ask for you to put

458
00:41:50,270 --> 00:41:52,850
that sign down and God will trust.

459
00:41:53,690 --> 00:41:58,470
And when it comes to product extortion and official oppression, I just wanted to remind

460
00:41:58,470 --> 00:42:06,470
all of y'all when it comes to USC title 18 Subsection 666, trying to wink you, didn't

461
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:06,650
come?

462
00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:08,970
And y'all know what that is?

463
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:15,130
I'm sure you haven't had the training, but anyways, that's a theft of federal programs.

464
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:18,470
And may y'all fall in your own traps.

465
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:22,050
great job, Mr. Hodges, Bruce Johnson,

466
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:24,470
Greco, Verizon.

467
00:42:25,570 --> 00:42:28,090
The true Christians don't have to be asked,

468
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:29,770
who shall I send?

469
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:31,490
They already know.

470
00:42:32,590 --> 00:42:35,370
And for all my state and federal representatives,

471
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:38,230
I want you to take note of Denver Strickland

472
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:41,750
when it comes to women speaking out against Epstein.

473
00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:43,770
I'm not allowed to talk about him.

474
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:46,130
We're shaking it.

475
00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:54,190
She forbidden it. She violated my first amendment. Take note women, daughters, sisters,

476
00:42:54,970 --> 00:43:02,870
mothers, grandmothers, who's protecting who? The ALJ's number one asset. It's not just

477
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:07,830
Captain Berkowitz. Thank you. Come on, Councilor.

478
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,960
Good morning, Darryl Wade, W-A-D-E. I just

479
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,580
I just wanted to thank y'all for being here off crowd today.

480
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,000
That was a good day.

481
00:43:21,340 --> 00:43:21,740
Thank you.

482
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,820
Sam, anybody else on the phone, please.

483
00:43:26,030 --> 00:43:26,710
Yes, chair.

484
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:27,610
The caller is unmuted.

485
00:43:27,790 --> 00:43:29,470
Please speak of this phone, your name for the record.

486
00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:36,710
Tina, Bond, Kugling, K-U-G, L-A-N.

487
00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:44,270
And you are well aware of having attended a meeting in a long time, publicly, because my

488
00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:49,790
life is in danger when I'm there, but I'm actually surprised at how many of the public

489
00:43:49,790 --> 00:43:57,290
has not stood up to you guys and stopped you from changing policy procedure and protocol that

490
00:43:57,290 --> 00:44:01,530
is already in your books that you're supposed to be following.

491
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:08,910
Joe McGill has no authority in those chambers, those chambers belong to the public, and

492
00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:15,530
I'm surprised that the public that is in that room right now is allowing this to go on.

493
00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:22,630
This calls for a class action lawsuit, which I believe is already in the works against some

494
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:23,530
of the commissioners.

495
00:44:24,690 --> 00:44:28,730
I understand that the two of you have lost and you don't care about your behavior or

496
00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:35,630
your community anymore, but the disrespect and the disregard to the public, to some of the

497
00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:39,250
women the way you speak to them, Ron, you should be ashamed of yourself.

498
00:44:39,870 --> 00:44:44,170
Because I know if I was in that chamber and you spoke to me the way you do, I wouldn't

499
00:44:44,170 --> 00:44:48,330
stand for it. You have no authority to remove anybody from those chambers.

500
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:52,770
Those chambers don't belong to you. They belong to the public. You guys are

501
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:59,610
leasing those buildings to use them and I cannot sad them why no one else is

502
00:44:59,610 --> 00:44:59,870
not.

503
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,900
Standing up any time you tell the sheriff to remove somebody from those chambers. When you practice the first amendment, make sure it's followed by the second and then covered by the fifth. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, Dwight.

504
00:45:20,590 --> 00:45:34,170
Thank you. Good morning, Dwight Lili. I'm here to speak out against flock cameras and surveillance systems that we see all across the land right now. And I've done some research

505
00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:40,050
on this, and from the flock company's perspective, well, we're just reading license plates and

506
00:45:40,050 --> 00:45:46,690
the information disappears after a few minutes. But this is not true. There are cases example

507
00:45:46,690 --> 00:45:55,070
in Kentucky of a law enforcement officer using the flock camera system to scope out his former

508
00:45:55,070 --> 00:46:01,830
girlfriend 2,000 times using the system to track her where she was going, what she was doing,

509
00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:06,890
and this is a complete violation of our Fourth Amendment when you're using a system like that.

510
00:46:07,470 --> 00:46:12,110
As I understand, we have one set of flock cameras here in Perun.

511
00:46:12,210 --> 00:46:13,850
I'd like to see a ban completely.

512
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:20,470
I don't think we can trust the system in place here, be it law enforcement, be the government itself,

513
00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:27,250
to have a flock system type camera system, surveillance system that could infringe upon.

514
00:46:27,250 --> 00:46:32,210
People here be used for nefarious reasons that they weren't designed for.

515
00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:32,770
Thank you.

516
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:34,970
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

517
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:38,190
No chair, come on down, Mr. Limus.

518
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,940
I think your button's not on there, buddy.

519
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,380
Right there, there we go.

520
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:49,040
Mike, check one, two, one, two.

521
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,540
Paul, Limus, L-E-M-U-S.

522
00:46:53,980 --> 00:47:00,900
And I'm going to run into a Mark 7 quote that came to mind when all this was going on.

523
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:05,900
We're out in the Amargosa Valley area just a little ways further from you here and

524
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,820
We own land there that's backed up to the Ash Meadows property. So today. I wanted to just read it real quick

525
00:47:12,820 --> 00:47:13,820
This is by the way

526
00:47:14,340 --> 00:47:18,300
brought to you from the businessmen global businessmen fellowship group

527
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:25,900
They have asked me personally to read this and this Bible. I'm reading from today is mr. Jim Marsha the casino owners

528
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:30,440
personal Bible that has lent me to read today just so that it's on the record

529
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,980
for they all saw him

530
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:42,260
and were terrified, but immediately he spoke with them and said to them,

531
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:51,580
take courage, it is I, do not be afraid. Then he got into the boat with them and the wind stopped

532
00:47:51,580 --> 00:48:02,460
and they were utterly astonished. So that's kind of a unique Bible verse to me because it's the

533
00:48:02,460 --> 00:48:06,320
it's the accepting of the God is within all of us.

534
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,700
It's all of our job to make this stuff right.

535
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,480
And these folks are given the tool of this board

536
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,040
and local ordinances up to this point.

537
00:48:14,620 --> 00:48:18,040
What we're infringing on now is a new beginning of changes.

538
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,040
We're having states attack town cities.

539
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,240
It's a very unique time, but to disregard their power

540
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,140
and all the work that they've done in a county

541
00:48:29,140 --> 00:48:31,780
to build up this system for all of us

542
00:48:31,780 --> 00:48:46,420
would only weaken us. I know it gets frustrating and sometimes we just want to, you know, kill the messenger, but the messenger is only part of the big picture we need to make sure that we all consider that the state is who's attacking us.

543
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:48,200
Thank you. Thank you Paul.

544
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:50,180
Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

545
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,000
No chair.

546
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,360
Come on down Deborah.

547
00:48:56,650 --> 00:49:11,170
Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S, sometimes there are agenda items in front of this committee

548
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:18,450
and other committees that the little breakout groups, I don't want to call them breakout

549
00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:21,630
groups, but I don't know what you call them.

550
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:35,310
But for instance, the Finance Committee, and I think that it would be very helpful

551
00:49:35,310 --> 00:49:38,710
to the public if we saw the numbers as well.

552
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:46,230
And I also think it would be very helpful to the public if we had a clue what was going

553
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:49,770
to be talked about so we could do some research on it.

554
00:49:50,310 --> 00:49:53,150
I'm sure I'm not the only one, thank you.

555
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:54,410
Thank you.

556
00:49:55,290 --> 00:49:56,230
Come on down, Gerald.

557
00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:03,420
Good morning, commissioners, Gerald Schulte, S-C-H-U-L-T-E.

558
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:11,520
I normally bite my tongue on a lot of things, but I heard Mr. Lackey get up here and talk some stupid shit.

559
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:33,290
Mr. Lackey, this town has a majority of manufactured homes in over the last 20 years. They are converted to real property and they generate a minimum of $2,000 per parcel. Per home in this town. You're living in the olden days when you live in

560
00:50:33,290 --> 00:50:38,230
in that travel trader on that little lot that you still live on occasionally and you have

561
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:42,650
no idea what you're talking about again when you come up to this microphone, so I just

562
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:50,230
want to correct what you said. Manufactured home owners pay just as much property tax

563
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:53,030
as any stick built value per value.

564
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,600
Thank you very much, Gerald. I appreciate logic. Come on, Dale, ma'am.

565
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,560
First

566
00:51:05,780 --> 00:51:08,020
of all, good morning commissioners.

567
00:51:10,740 --> 00:51:12,440
I hear everybody talk about the committee work.

568
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,820
I'm sorry, just spell it for the record.

569
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:16,020
Sorry, I'm going to be Ms. ALL.

570
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,540
Thank you.

571
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,020
Sorry.

572
00:51:17,380 --> 00:51:17,720
That's okay.

573
00:51:18,060 --> 00:51:19,360
The many waste.

574
00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:22,280
I'm not really familiar.

575
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:25,580
I've just recently started coming to these meetings.

576
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:34,240
And I would think from listening to everybody that people who have breathing issues, you know,

577
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:42,300
There's a lot of seniors and a lot of them have breathing issues, and we already know

578
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:44,200
the dust here is very bad.

579
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:50,760
And people, even children, that are warned to stay in the homes when we have high winds.

580
00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:01,020
So, I would think that that would, the many ways facility would basically affect all of them also.

581
00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:07,240
So I just hope you guys take this into effect that we just don't need something like that

582
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:07,700
here.

583
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,000
We're trying to better this place, but not make it a city.

584
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:15,020
We want to keep it rural.

585
00:52:15,740 --> 00:52:23,900
And all of your decisions you make, I hope you keep that in consideration, rural Nevada.

586
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,100
We don't want to miskeit.

587
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,760
We don't want to loss Vegas.

588
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,800
Yes, so anyway, thank you.

589
00:52:31,140 --> 00:52:31,540
Thank you.

590
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Sam, anybody on the phone please.

591
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,000
No chair.

592
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920
All right, seeing none and we're going to close out public comment.

593
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,780
Unless there's someone in Tonopar, screen's not on up there, guys.

594
00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:43,880
So there it is.

595
00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:47,920
All right, so we're going to close that out and move to number three, please.

596
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:52,780
Item three, Commissioner Manager comments.

597
00:52:53,180 --> 00:52:54,840
The site is limited to announcements.

598
00:52:55,660 --> 00:52:57,440
Brief discussions of public comments.

599
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,140
correction of factual inaccuracies,

600
00:53:00,620 --> 00:53:04,720
correction of staff or topics proposed for future board meetings,

601
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,660
lengthy deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited

602
00:53:09,020 --> 00:53:10,660
by the Nevada Open Meeting Law.

603
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,000
Thank you for that.

604
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,100
Sheriff, you're walking, you may as well come on up.

605
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,700
Good morning, Sheriff Joe McGill.

606
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,160
This is basically directed at the commissioners and Mr. Coonsy.

607
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:30,300
I would like confirmation, Mr. Coonsy

608
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:44,000
that NRS 203.090 disturbing a meeting and 203.030 provoking a commission of breach of

609
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:51,900
peace would apply to these meetings and give us the authority to take action and remove

610
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:57,160
an individual if asked to. If you need to take some time to look at those, just give

611
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:05,360
back to me please. If that is the case, it might be time that more severe action gets

612
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,700
taken in one of these meetings. So they aren't here.

613
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,480
Go ahead.

614
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:16,860
Also in the very first thing, front of the agenda, it states all this. We're allowed to

615
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:22,720
change the time. It's up to this board to conduct this meeting. We're here to do the business

616
00:54:23,140 --> 00:54:25,780
of the people, but we have to do the business of the people.

617
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:35,140
Unless something immediately comes to my attention, I try not to step out of line or immediately address it.

618
00:54:35,420 --> 00:54:38,200
I try to defer to the board.

619
00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:45,420
If a board member asks me to remove an individual, I verify that, and then I do.

620
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,140
I appreciate that.

621
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Thank you, Chair.

622
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Thank you, sir.

623
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:49,840
You're welcome.

624
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,220
here. Commissioner Bain, you got anything?

625
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:55,180
Mr. Chair, board.

626
00:54:56,740 --> 00:54:58,600
Thank you, Chair. Good morning, everybody.

627
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:09,600
I would like to hone in and specifically address the meta-waste concern, very, very legitimate concern.

628
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:24,280
What a coincidence. We have coming up for October 6th, where District Attorney Kunzi and myself, Commissioner Jebore,

629
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:33,900
or we have a public hearing, time and date set, specifically for meta-waste, and then

630
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:39,660
the public hearing will be on the second meeting of October 20th.

631
00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:49,500
Please keep in mind that, yes, as I mentioned, the quincidence end-up did give and post a

632
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:57,100
notice, and on that notice it specifically reads that their deadline to receive and there

633
00:55:57,100 --> 00:56:04,300
is a special form, a special form to fill out, go to their link, but their deadline is

634
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:09,380
September 10th, excuse me, September 10th is their deadline.

635
00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:13,460
So try to get in those responses as quickly as possible.

636
00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:17,260
So we don't miss that September 10th deadline.

637
00:56:17,260 --> 00:56:26,600
Also, we do have a county ordinance that's nice that the state end up as opposed to this notice.

638
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:38,160
But my county, we do have a requirement and an ordinance to issue a special permit within

639
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,100
our county for such a project of this magnitude.

640
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:55,840
So, very important, I appreciate all of your concern and your feedback, but we've been working on this and you will be very, very surprised as to the information that comes forward.

641
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,040
Thank you again for being here and I turn back over to you, Chair.

642
00:57:01,660 --> 00:57:03,260
Thank you, Commissioner Strickland.

643
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:19,180
Reiterating with the commissioner and the board that was well done so that people were reminded that they can reach out and make common against the in-depth decision and what our future looks like for hearing this is a board. Thank you. Thank you chair. Thank you.

644
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:20,060
Commissioner Coneck?

645
00:57:23,710 --> 00:57:30,590
I briefly mentioned many ways and the fact remains that before they can operate they

646
00:57:30,590 --> 00:57:38,570
need a permit from us so there you go and it's the opinion of the district attorney that

647
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:47,970
we come up with a specific ordinance banning any importation of medical waste into this county

648
00:57:47,970 --> 00:57:51,090
from another state so we'll be looking at that.

649
00:57:51,090 --> 00:57:55,890
Now, that being said, it's time.

650
00:57:58,300 --> 00:57:59,540
John's got a new toy.

651
00:58:04,270 --> 00:58:05,250
Is it working now?

652
00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:10,070
We'll be using this in further meetings.

653
00:58:10,510 --> 00:58:20,290
I'm not using it today because the numbers on the four right there, they just, I can't stand looking at them,

654
00:58:20,370 --> 00:58:21,150
blinking so quickly.

655
00:58:21,490 --> 00:58:24,330
So they're going to black that out for me somehow.

656
00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:31,830
but instead of using this, that you have no idea how much time you have left and

657
00:58:31,830 --> 00:58:36,090
you probably can't even hear it go ding, ding, ding when your time is up, this

658
00:58:36,090 --> 00:58:42,350
will do it and it also supposedly makes a noise when your time is up. So get

659
00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:47,190
used to this. I asked for it, I don't know several months ago because some

660
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:54,090
members of the public had asked about it. So we asked and we have it now. So magic

661
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,340
there you go. That's all I have. Thank you.

662
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:06,300
Thanks, Commissioner. Okay, so I just have a couple of quick things. Somebody had mentioned water.

663
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,360
They mentioned everybody mentions water all the time.

664
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,700
And the reason for that is because you'll hear stories of some wells going dry, some wells

665
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:21,100
having to be punch deeper. And then you'll hear other stories of wells

666
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:27,160
Artesianing in different areas of the town. We have not had a water study in 20 years, I believe.

667
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:38,820
20 years. So I had mentioned Bakersfield had done a lidar study where they fly over and they

668
00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:43,320
basically radar down into the ground. They know how much water there is. There is there. I mentioned

669
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:48,280
that to some members of the water board and they're like, well, you know, those aren't. I don't know if

670
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:55,500
That's reliable and so the bottom line in the end of it really is none of us at this point

671
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:57,580
really know where we are on water.

672
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,820
We're all in that same boat.

673
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,900
So none of us want to go dry. I mean, I've got land that I don't want it to be useless either. So there's that. So the study should be coming eventually. And the sooner the better. I was told it would be this year, but so there's that. Secondly, I also mentioned at our last meeting from a position of we're all residents here. We're probably all property owners and and none of us want to be hurt.

674
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:37,740
anymore. I mean, I was affected deeply by the 1293 order several years ago, made property

675
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:46,920
I had overnight, just worthless, but which got upheld by the friggin' Supreme Court. But

676
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:58,920
anyway, so I mentioned last meeting that regarding the data center, and I'm not, if I didn't

677
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:07,920
I don't like that location for the data center, but I'm not opposed to data centers somewhere out, out, away where they're not going to harm in my time now, John.

678
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:28,480
But so I mentioned, I mentioned that we're in this together and we need to be very careful because people in Clark and in the state have told me, well, you know, we don't really give a damn what Nye County says because we're going to do what we want to do on the Clark side.

679
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:33,100
and I may think they can fight us, and they may think that they can do this and that,

680
01:01:33,340 --> 01:01:36,460
but we have unlimited resources to fight them until they're broke.

681
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,160
Two days after our last meeting, when I brought this up to all of us here,

682
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:48,900
a different company, other than the one that was proposing to come here on Mance,

683
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,760
a different company applied with the BLM for a thousand acre data project,

684
01:01:53,760 --> 01:02:01,820
just on the Clark side using the same dam basin so and if that were ever to

685
01:02:01,820 --> 01:02:06,940
be approved or moved forward, Clark gets any benefit there would be and they

686
01:02:06,940 --> 01:02:12,260
still suck the water right out of 162 which again we don't know how much is

687
01:02:12,260 --> 01:02:16,900
there so it's just I mean we don't always have to agree on everything and you

688
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:22,380
don't even like each other or not but we are here together so we better be

689
01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:27,000
figure in something now. That's all I got. Managers, directors, anybody?

690
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:31,420
Yeah, you want

691
01:02:31,420 --> 01:02:37,680
to be break? Chair, I have the clerk. Oh, go ahead and tell the ladies first.

692
01:02:37,820 --> 01:02:44,300
Hi, I'll just appreciate that chair. I just wanted to draw out a couple of members. We have

693
01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:49,800
46 days until early voting. We are there. We are getting ready to start our mail-in ballots.

694
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaking of mail-in ballots, you guys have until September 4th. If you do not want a ballot,

695
01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:01,280
Please go to my office, they're on the website, they're on the state's website, the form.

696
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:05,520
If we receive them by the fourth and we will not have to mail them, that's the only way

697
01:03:06,180 --> 01:03:09,140
we cannot mail 37,000 ballots.

698
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,420
If you've already done it, we have it, but if you haven't and you are one who wants to vote

699
01:03:14,420 --> 01:03:19,880
in person, swing by either one of the offices, again, online, and pick that up for me.

700
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,620
And I think that's it.

701
01:03:21,740 --> 01:03:21,920
Thanks.

702
01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:23,300
Cory, nice to see you.

703
01:03:23,340 --> 01:03:23,740
Go ahead, Arnold.

704
01:03:26,190 --> 01:03:31,490
Good morning. My name is Arnold Knightley. I'm the Public Communications Manager for Knight County.

705
01:03:32,690 --> 01:03:38,010
I want to correct this statement made at the last meeting regarding the county's handling of public records requests.

706
01:03:38,830 --> 01:03:44,650
The sheriff stated, and I quote, as a point of comparison, the county has three people who do public records requests.

707
01:03:45,410 --> 01:03:52,170
And she does three times as many more. She does more by herself than three people do for this county, in quote.

708
01:03:53,490 --> 01:03:58,190
The primary correction is the assertion the county has three people handling public records requests.

709
01:03:58,610 --> 01:03:59,450
This is not accurate.

710
01:03:59,970 --> 01:04:02,170
The county has one public records administrator.

711
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:07,910
The county created the position in 2002 in response to rapidly increasing workload.

712
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:13,590
The year before the position was created, the county received 346 public records requests.

713
01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:19,010
By the end of last year, the number had increased approximately 189% to 1000.

714
01:04:19,010 --> 01:04:24,810
And the work load continues to grow through August 2026 yesterday.

715
01:04:25,290 --> 01:04:33,290
The county has received 772 public records requests, a 15.4% increase over this same period last year.

716
01:04:34,030 --> 01:04:41,790
In August of the month, the county received 131 requests compared with 82 in August 2025, the increase is nearly 60%.

717
01:04:41,790 --> 01:04:48,930
At the current pace, the county is projected to receive approximately 1,150 public records requests in 2026.

718
01:04:48,930 --> 01:04:53,730
The workload cannot be measured simply by counting the number of requests received.

719
01:04:54,450 --> 01:04:58,890
August requests alone involved approximately 562 individual documents.

720
01:04:59,210 --> 01:04:59,970
They are currently-

721
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,600
Number 26, open records requests, including 16 that involve reviewing emails. Approximately 42 requests during 2026 have required email review, and one current request alone involves reviewing more than 4,000 emails. Individual requesters can also significantly impact the workload. Since April, one requester has submitted 32 public records requests, nine of which remain open. These figures demonstrate a substantial and growing

722
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,240
paying public records workload for the county's one person.

723
01:05:32,900 --> 01:05:36,440
Meaningful comparisons should be based on documented request volumes,

724
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,420
the number of complexity records being sought, and the time required to locate,

725
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,360
review, redact, and produce for responsive records.

726
01:05:44,140 --> 01:05:49,160
This is not intended to dispute or diminish the workload being experienced by the sheriff's office.

727
01:05:49,780 --> 01:05:54,080
We have a great relationship with the records person and work together often.

728
01:05:54,380 --> 01:05:58,120
She does a great job, particularly in an era where social media and

729
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,380
an increased public attention can generate significant demand in records.

730
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,320
And oftentimes those records are used for clicks.

731
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:09,080
It's intent to correct the record regarding county staffing and

732
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,980
provide an accurate picture of the challenges the county faces in responding to public records requests.

733
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Thank you, Arnold, but I need you to spell your name for the record.

734
01:06:20,020 --> 01:06:23,080
Knightley, K and I, DHT, L.Y.

735
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:24,020
Thank you.

736
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:25,860
Come on up, Tammy.

737
01:06:25,860 --> 01:06:25,960
me.

738
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:41,100
Good morning, commissioners. Tammy Engel, E N G E L. First of all, I need to say

739
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:48,940
hi, Erica. And then I wanted to bring to your attention that the Sheriff's Office is hosting

740
01:06:48,940 --> 01:06:56,400
along with Vitalent, a badge of honor blood drive on September 10th and 11th. On the 10th,

741
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:03,880
it is from 9 to 3. And on the 11th, it will be from noon to 6. And this is at the prompt

742
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:10,720
Nugget and we hope that you will stop by and donate some much-needed blood for our area.

743
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,180
Thank you.

744
01:07:12,460 --> 01:07:12,820
Thank you.

745
01:07:12,940 --> 01:07:13,480
Come on up, Chief.

746
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:22,470
Good morning, Commissioner Scott Lewis, L-E-W-I-S, Town of Promfire Chief.

747
01:07:22,970 --> 01:07:26,170
I want to remind everyone that the burn moratorium remains in place.

748
01:07:26,750 --> 01:07:30,890
We have verted in near disaster again yesterday and wind-driven conditions.

749
01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:37,010
High fuel loads with an unauthorized control burn on the property in the south end of Valley.

750
01:07:37,010 --> 01:07:46,150
That burn impact is three other properties, including one property that had a lot of material stored on including vehicles.

751
01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:51,610
So we're reminding everyone to release November 1st, no burning, thank you.

752
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:54,990
Thanks Chief, same any managers or directors on the phone please.

753
01:07:55,610 --> 01:07:56,210
No chair.

754
01:07:56,570 --> 01:08:01,490
All right, we're going to close that out and move to, we'll do four and five and then take a break.

755
01:08:01,490 --> 01:08:02,790
4, please.

756
01:08:04,190 --> 01:08:08,490
Item 4 approval of the agenda for September 1st, 2026.

757
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:21,310
We are going to be polling in consent items 11.3A but we will still consider B and also

758
01:08:21,310 --> 01:08:23,630
also pulling item five emergency items.

759
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:26,930
All right, thank you for that.

760
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:31,170
Okay, let's take 10 minute putty break.

761
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,020
You're ready to own a butcher.

762
01:08:55,660 --> 01:08:57,220
All right, we're ready when you guys are.

763
01:09:08,750 --> 01:09:10,830
Okay, indeed,

764
01:09:27,270 --> 01:09:28,830
yeah, good.

765
01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:36,620
All right, we're ready, manager number six, please.

766
01:09:38,940 --> 01:09:42,380
Item six, 10 a.m. time item for possible action.

767
01:09:42,940 --> 01:09:45,880
Sir, the curing, sir, sir.

768
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,300
Mr. Hodge.

769
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:49,140
Mr. Hodge.

770
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:50,600
Go ahead, manager.

771
01:09:52,180 --> 01:09:59,860
10 a.m. time item for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation to adopt, amend and adopt a reject mic.

772
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:23,780
County bill number 2026-12. A bill proposing to amend Nye County Code Title 17, comprehensive land use planning and zoning, by amending chapter 17.10 entitled, prompt regional planning district relating to section 17.04. 110 definitions by adding the definition of a dwelling unit.

773
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,600
ADU amending the definition of dwelling or dwelling unit.

774
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:40,960
By removing or dwelling unit, amending section 17.04.210, RH 9.5, Rural Homestead Residential,

775
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:53,540
section 17.04.215, RH 4.5, Rural Homestead Residential, section 17.04.220, RE2, Rural

776
01:10:53,540 --> 01:11:23,020
the state's residential, 17.04225 RE1 rural estate residential, 17.04230 suburban the state's residential, section 17.04.240 VR20 village residential, and 17.04.245 VR10 village residential by adding an accessory dwelling units and standards to permissive uses.

777
01:11:23,020 --> 01:11:36,760
and removing mobile homes as temporary residences with temporary use permit and providing for the severability constitutionality and effective date thereof and the other matters properly relating there to hand.

778
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:50,500
I know there's a typo in here. It's less on the 17.10. I think that should be 17.04 in the agenda item, so just correcting that on the record perfect.

779
01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:51,580
Good morning, Celeste.

780
01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:52,160
Good morning.

781
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,080
Celeste, Sandoval, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, Assistant Planning Director.

782
01:11:57,020 --> 01:12:03,320
As Brett has stated, we had received an application in and they would like to add the definition

783
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:08,520
of accessory dwelling unit and the applicants are here for any questions if you have anything.

784
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:13,020
They are the experts in the manufactured homes for what they're wanting to add.

785
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:13,860
Cool.

786
01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:15,220
Thank you very much for that.

787
01:12:15,340 --> 01:12:17,200
So I think what we're going to do is open public comment.

788
01:12:17,540 --> 01:12:18,300
Oh, wait a minute.

789
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:18,900
Go ahead.

790
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:23,460
You mind if we do a little different here and ask questions from the applicants or

791
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,740
Could you state your name and spill it for the record?

792
01:12:30,460 --> 01:12:34,160
Gerald Shulti, SCH, ULTE, Factory Home Center.

793
01:12:34,580 --> 01:12:35,040
Delisha

794
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,240
Tommisha asked you, Factory Home Center as well, H-A-S-K-E-W.

795
01:12:40,940 --> 01:12:48,880
Excellent. So we evidently have had some holes in our roles that you're come up with an idea of how we should could do a better job when it comes to the

796
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:53,620
these ADUs, and I just was wondering if you'd give a little explanation about what those

797
01:12:53,620 --> 01:12:57,480
changes are when it comes to kitchens and et cetera, because that's what basically

798
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:57,900
is.

799
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:03,280
So, well, currently right now, the only thing that we're trying to get changed is any of

800
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,220
these zones that already allow a site built kacita, which does not have a fully functioning

801
01:13:07,220 --> 01:13:11,800
kitchen, we're trying to get included in that definition an ADU unit.

802
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:16,740
That's not in addition to a kacita, we just want to say, okay, if you're going to do a

803
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:18,200
you can also do an ADU.

804
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,820
Whether that's gonna be a site built or manufactured,

805
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,740
we want to be included in that.

806
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:25,700
Assembly Bill 396 has already been passed,

807
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,760
and that is in the state of Nevada.

808
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,700
They've already passed it to where the larger counties and cities

809
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,720
already allow for ADU units.

810
01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:35,760
Clark County has allowed it for years and years, and we've done it.

811
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,280
For years and years there, they've actually even removed the waiver requirements,

812
01:13:40,580 --> 01:13:45,080
and we don't have to get any type of approvals from neighbors or anything like that.

813
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:54,120
But it's just something that we want to be included in because right now, you have to have a temporary use in order to have a manufactured home placed on a private piece of property.

814
01:13:54,620 --> 01:14:06,160
We have to go through all of the permitting, all of the zoning, we have to do soils reports, we have to do our engineer type two pads, our block work, we have to pay so much money in order to get these homes on these properties.

815
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:12,000
And then it has to be renewed every single year. Once that medical need is no longer, they have to remove that home.

816
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:22,500
And now, whenever you take into account years on these homes, Clark County, you're only allowed to put a home that six years are newer, and a lot of the other jurisdictions have those same type of rules.

817
01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:27,740
So now, what are these people going to do with these homes whenever they can no longer have them on their pieces of property?

818
01:14:28,420 --> 01:14:33,480
And people also have a misconception of what brand-new manufactured homes look like.

819
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:38,200
There are two by six construction, they're built just as well as a site built home.

820
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,440
You can do exterior stucco, you can do tile roof if you want, you can do metal roofs.

821
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,060
I have a few pictures of some of our homes that we do have, but they've definitely changed

822
01:14:47,060 --> 01:14:48,240
over the years, that's for sure.

823
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:50,540
Thank you, Chair.

824
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:51,720
Thank you, Mrs. Alicia.

825
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:57,720
And the great thing is, they'll be converted to real property and generate a lot more extra

826
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,220
That's what we've previously discussed.

827
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:22,100
There we go. The only time that it's not is if somebody is going to do a chattelone and they have to finance the home only. But once that's paid off, they can then tie it. I've already checked with manufactured housing division. They said it's a land use thing and it has nothing to do with them. So you can have two homes converted to real property on one site. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Let's now open public comment. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

828
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,440
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

829
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:42,880
Yes, Amy Nelson. Any LSON? I'm not quite sure why they need to have a 2 by 6 manufacturer

830
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:52,280
own and I'm really suspect that these will be used in addition to other things that are

831
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:59,980
going on like the solar farms they might want to put one out there and so forth. And I'm

832
01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:07,320
really suspect to changing our master plan this early in the game. I'm really

833
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:13,480
suspect to any of those changes. So I hope you really consider what this is

834
01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:19,380
going to mean for all of us in the future. Thank you. Come on down Beth.

835
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:32,000
Beth Bores-Sevich, B-O-R-Y-S-C-W-I-C-H. I'm speaking as a regular citizen that

836
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,060
owns a home here in town and not an RPC commissioner.

837
01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:42,580
My issue with this is that we have a mobile home company that wants us to change our code

838
01:16:42,580 --> 01:16:44,760
so they can sell more homes.

839
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:49,860
They want us to be like Las Vegas, Henderson.

840
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,820
We're a rural small town.

841
01:16:53,740 --> 01:17:01,420
Why would we put another mobile home on a lot instead of putting a smaller unit?

842
01:17:01,420 --> 01:17:06,580
that doesn't encompass 30 or 40 feet.

843
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,620
It just doesn't make sense to me.

844
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,440
The bottom line that I'm hearing out of all of this,

845
01:17:13,820 --> 01:17:17,320
oh, also I do know that both of the homes

846
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,020
on the property can just be rentals.

847
01:17:20,740 --> 01:17:22,700
So instead of it being an ADU

848
01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:27,620
to help your family or some relative or whatever,

849
01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:30,500
they could just run them all out forever.

850
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:37,480
and then what? But they are, they want to sell more mobile homes. I am not in favor of this. We're

851
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:44,040
rural. We don't want to put all the homes on all the land. Can you imagine how that would look?

852
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:49,020
Oh my God. Anyway, I just am not in favor of this. Thank you.

853
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,060
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please.

854
01:17:53,310 --> 01:17:56,650
Yes, Chair. The call area is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

855
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:02,120
Yes. Can you hear me?

856
01:18:03,500 --> 01:18:10,800
Yes, ma'am. Sorry. That's okay. I didn't mean to provide it for you. That's okay.

857
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:26,360
It's very isolating trying to figure out if I'm being hurt or not on this line. I can't see you. No, I appreciate it. But can you, can you please spell your last name just for the record?

858
01:18:27,860 --> 01:18:34,360
Yes, my first name is Kapua K-A-P-U-A. I spell it because it's unusual here.

859
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:38,360
Johnson is my last name, J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

860
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:45,200
I'm calling in because I've been listening to this, to come the complete meeting.

861
01:18:45,940 --> 01:18:52,820
And the irony that I'm hearing is just so strong

862
01:18:52,820 --> 01:18:59,720
because here we are, we have speakers who are protesting against manufactured homes.

863
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:05,540
This would be people buying one by one by manufacturing homes.

864
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,480
And yet, we have these huge housing developments

865
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:15,720
that were not there when I bought my vacant land by vacant lot 40 years ago.

866
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:22,820
And now we have the attempted introduction of the data center.

867
01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:26,800
Now we're looking at a medical waste dumping site.

868
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:34,520
The irony, because between a few people landowners getting begging

869
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,420
for their utilities to be put in or even allowed.

870
01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:54,180
And yet there's five casinos, a pool, a man-made lake, excuse me, where is the practicality here?

871
01:19:54,940 --> 01:19:58,060
And are we supposed to accept that as plum?

872
01:19:58,060 --> 01:19:59,960
Once, make it loud, order it to up.

873
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:28,620
All being denied everything. We're supposed to say, well, that's okay. It's not okay. It is not okay with us. And you have not heard the last of us. We will be at every single meeting until something is done. And this irony that's blatant. Thank you. Thank you. I believe that Miss Kapua didn't realize that we are on an agenda item. I think so. I think so. Yeah. Okay. Sam, or no, come on down, sir.

874
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:33,840
Thank you.

875
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,100
the commissioners for your time in consideration.

876
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,480
I strongly support this amendment.

877
01:20:39,940 --> 01:20:41,680
Can you stop for the record I'm so sorry.

878
01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:42,200
Yeah, I'm sorry.

879
01:20:42,440 --> 01:20:46,320
Reggie, Federal, F is in Frank, EDR all.

880
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,020
Thank you.

881
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:51,020
Again, thank you commissioners for your time in consideration on this subject.

882
01:20:51,420 --> 01:20:56,700
I strongly support the tax amendment 41 and bill 2026-12.

883
01:20:57,060 --> 01:21:01,740
Because it aligns our housing code with existing frameworks.

884
01:21:01,740 --> 01:21:15,720
While providing our community with a practical and lasting option, small manufactured homes are currently permitting only in circumstances tied to medical necessities.

885
01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:28,020
When that condition is, the unit must be removed, even after residents invest over $100,000 for one of these manufactured homes.

886
01:21:28,020 --> 01:21:32,160
This creates a financial risk for families and caring for loved ones.

887
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:38,680
Bill 2026-12 allows manufactured homes to remain on residential lots,

888
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:45,720
making them permanent housing solutions like casitas already permitted in our code.

889
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:52,980
That gives these families the stability they need when making such a major investment.

890
01:21:52,980 --> 01:21:57,880
Manufactured homes are built to strict HUD standards.

891
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:03,520
HUD standards, that's really good, you know, that's better than what we have now.

892
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:10,440
Their registered solutions that expand options beyond casitas, offering different price points

893
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:13,900
and stability for Ferris family needs.

894
01:22:14,460 --> 01:22:21,660
Whenever for medical necessity, our general affordability, families deserve access to code,

895
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,120
compliant permanent housing that fits their circumstances.

896
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:30,460
By providing this lawful alternative, we expand housing options,

897
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,140
give families certainly that their investments won't be lost.

898
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:36,800
Thank you.

899
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,740
We respect it.

900
01:22:38,380 --> 01:22:39,200
Thank you very much, sir.

901
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:40,060
Thank you.

902
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:40,720
All right.

903
01:22:41,060 --> 01:22:42,560
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

904
01:22:43,260 --> 01:22:43,860
Yes, chair.

905
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:44,820
The caller is unmuted.

906
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,620
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

907
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:50,800
Hello, commissioners.

908
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,000
Michael David Garcia, GA or CIA.

909
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,220
You hear me okay?

910
01:22:55,460 --> 01:22:55,660
Yes.

911
01:22:57,820 --> 01:22:58,840
Thank you, thank you.

912
01:22:58,960 --> 01:22:59,640
I appreciate that.

913
01:22:59,820 --> 01:23:00,320
I appreciate the other.

914
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:01,840
I was delighted.

915
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:10,120
Anyhow, my specific comments about this agenda item is the constitutionality, which obviously

916
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,340
there's some folks on the other side of the microphone a little weak.

917
01:23:14,140 --> 01:23:15,660
So I'd like to address that part.

918
01:23:15,660 --> 01:23:21,880
You know, the fifth amendment is due process, and I heard something about the takings.

919
01:23:23,420 --> 01:23:25,040
Anybody want to address that?

920
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,240
Maybe we should be on the practice

921
01:23:34,670 --> 01:23:36,070
system statutes.

922
01:23:36,610 --> 01:23:38,230
How about the news flash, Sharon?

923
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:40,330
It's not a metro.

924
01:23:42,970 --> 01:23:44,870
Let's get undocked from the

925
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:48,670
constitutionality.

926
01:23:50,610 --> 01:23:51,510
See, I'll know the difference.

927
01:23:54,150 --> 01:23:55,030
You're treading again.

928
01:23:55,410 --> 01:23:56,030
Be careful.

929
01:23:56,750 --> 01:23:57,490
Not a threat.

930
01:23:58,690 --> 01:24:00,910
It's a right to practice with the Bill of Rights.

931
01:24:00,910 --> 01:24:02,970
and the 10th Amendment is King.

932
01:24:08,150 --> 01:24:08,730
Thank you.

933
01:24:09,070 --> 01:24:09,610
Thanks a lot,

934
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:13,820
Anthony.

935
01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:19,040
Anthony Greco, GRUCO, I think they should be able to get this

936
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,380
if you're trying to keep families together

937
01:24:21,940 --> 01:24:23,520
and take care of each other.

938
01:24:23,620 --> 01:24:24,700
There's nothing wrong with that.

939
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,900
If people don't like the way it looks,

940
01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:30,040
it's probably not gonna be garbage if Gerald is doing this

941
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,600
because he's a good business person.

942
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,020
And he's been in the community a long time

943
01:24:35,020 --> 01:24:37,500
and we need to take care of our families.

944
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:39,680
So I think they should be able to have this.

945
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:41,080
Thank you, sir.

946
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:42,580
Say hi to anybody on the phone, please.

947
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:45,020
Yes, chair.

948
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:46,020
The caller is unmuted.

949
01:24:46,220 --> 01:24:47,840
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

950
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:51,840
Yeah.

951
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:59,620
My name is Matt Sather, S-A-D-L-E-R, and anything that we can do to expand.

952
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:13,380
We need to go ahead and make that happen. This is definitely a reasonable ordinance, a reasonable proposal

953
01:25:13,380 --> 01:25:23,680
that we can kind of codify here. So I'm all for it. And in the future, expanding our rides on our own lands and to be able to enjoy our properties

954
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:29,420
up to a lot of new ideas in the future. Thank you very much. Have a good rest of your meeting.

955
01:25:29,420 --> 01:25:30,200
Thank you.

956
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,040
Come on down, Dwight.

957
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:35,980
Yeah.

958
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:36,540
Dwight, Lily.

959
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:37,680
Oh, why?

960
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:43,880
I think we need to end the stigma of manufactured homes once for all and stop calling them mobile

961
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:48,260
homes and start calling them homes, because that's exactly what they were.

962
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,760
46 years ago, in a state of Washington, Mount St.

963
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:58,100
Helens blew its top and floating down the Calis River was a green river mobile home.

964
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:03,200
The homes that got washed away were all pieces, but the mobile home was floating down the river.

965
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:09,640
that's how well it was built. So we need to remove from our zoning I believe any restrictions

966
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:16,640
having to do with a term mobile home just call them home. And this all is a housing situation

967
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:22,680
that families can remain together. You don't have to create some situation where they have to go

968
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:27,620
get a site built builder to come out and do it. You can have it done right in the factory moved in.

969
01:26:27,620 --> 01:26:31,040
And it's not going to be moved again once it's put on the property.

970
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,040
This is not the long, long trailer days of Lucille Ball.

971
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,100
This is in 2026, they're home.

972
01:26:39,340 --> 01:26:47,280
So I hope that the county planning whoever does the writing up of the ordinances can just

973
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,200
remove the name, mobile home, but just call it homes.

974
01:26:51,860 --> 01:26:53,480
That would solve the problem, right there.

975
01:26:54,220 --> 01:26:54,900
Thanks, Dwight.

976
01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:56,640
but I completely agree with you.

977
01:26:56,740 --> 01:26:58,520
Come on down, Susie.

978
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:04,270
Susie here, it's H-E-R-T-Z.

979
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:11,150
I don't really favor this change of ordinance

980
01:27:13,090 --> 01:27:17,530
because it ultimately is not that we

981
01:27:17,530 --> 01:27:18,970
need to be like a Las Vegas.

982
01:27:19,510 --> 01:27:20,530
We're not Las Vegas.

983
01:27:21,410 --> 01:27:22,670
We don't need to be like them.

984
01:27:22,790 --> 01:27:24,370
And we don't need to follow their rules.

985
01:27:24,590 --> 01:27:26,750
And we don't need to emulate them.

986
01:27:26,750 --> 01:27:28,610
We're a small rural town.

987
01:27:29,250 --> 01:27:33,150
If you can find a way to allow for temporary housing

988
01:27:33,490 --> 01:27:36,610
for people on their properties without it looking

989
01:27:36,610 --> 01:27:38,510
and sounding like Las Vegas,

990
01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:42,110
then perhaps we should entertain that.

991
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:46,830
But that is a basis for this ordinance.

992
01:27:47,150 --> 01:27:49,390
I don't think is terribly healthy.

993
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:54,050
And this is one manufactured home builder.

994
01:27:54,610 --> 01:28:03,670
There are others out there, and there's no consensus that has come from other builders who are out there to support this.

995
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:11,050
And so it seems a little one-sided in terms of who's proposing this change.

996
01:28:11,650 --> 01:28:14,150
So I'm personally not in favor of it, thank you.

997
01:28:14,410 --> 01:28:16,070
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

998
01:28:18,770 --> 01:28:19,210
No chair.

999
01:28:19,210 --> 01:28:21,090
I'm on down Mr. Lolli.

1000
01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:27,280
Okay, here you go.

1001
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,400
Chris Lally, LALY, good morning commissioners.

1002
01:28:33,220 --> 01:28:37,280
I just wanted to speak briefly in support of the proposed ADU ordinance.

1003
01:28:37,940 --> 01:28:43,240
I actually think this is a practical change that the kind of housing flexibility we should be encouraging in prom.

1004
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:52,140
Allowing a property owner to have one guest residence or an approved ADU while keeping it limited to 1500 square feet to me seems like a reasonable bounce.

1005
01:28:52,140 --> 01:29:03,060
For a lot of families this could mean a place for an aging parent, an adult child trying to get established or simply an opportunity for multiple generations to live close to one another while still having some independence.

1006
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,000
I also appreciate that the ordinance allows both site built and qualifying manufactured homes.

1007
01:29:09,300 --> 01:29:12,740
That gives residents options without simply removing standards.

1008
01:29:13,380 --> 01:29:18,300
My only request would be to make the process and requirements as clear as possible to property owners.

1009
01:29:18,740 --> 01:29:23,360
So people will understand up front what they can build and what approvals will be required.

1010
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,800
Overall though, I think this is a sensible change and I do support it moving forward.

1011
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,500
Thank you guys.

1012
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,380
Thank you.

1013
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,340
Say I'm anybody on the phone please.

1014
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:32,780
No chair.

1015
01:29:33,060 --> 01:29:33,620
Monday on Linda.

1016
01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:40,400
Linda Clark, CLI RK.

1017
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:46,160
So it's my understanding you don't really want the little homes.

1018
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:53,300
you'd prefer to have bigger trailers? Okay, who can afford all that? I was raised in a little

1019
01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:59,880
trying a two-bedroom what I call trailer trash place in Lancaster with five kids.

1020
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
And my mom living in a little trailer. If my mom had to go through what this is to make her buy a bigger mobile home, is she worked as a waitress supporting five kids. I'm sure we have people here like that. How can they do that? They can't. And that within the days before we got welfare and snap and all this other stuff we're giving out today. So if a person has something now and it's working for their family and they're keeping it up, why do we need to make them change? It makes no sense to me at all. They are people that live here and they deserve a home.

1021
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:49,660
Thank you. Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone please. No chair. Come on down, Diane. Yeah, I think we're all Sam. I am self-worthed. So you, T-H-W-O-R-T-H, let my age and I am the queen of my own manufactured home.

1022
01:30:49,660 --> 01:30:56,480
I could tell you that there could be a time when I would need to be closer to my family

1023
01:30:56,480 --> 01:31:03,300
and have to live in a little one bedroom house or casino or manufactured home.

1024
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,700
I also saw some really cute plans or they look like little log cabins.

1025
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:16,120
You build yourself for 25,000 and they're completely done and they have a front porch on them and stuff.

1026
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:17,940
So there's options out there.

1027
01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:20,340
I say that when I first read it,

1028
01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,200
I thought they were going to do away with the manufactured homes,

1029
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,460
that after listening to them,

1030
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:27,820
I think it's a wonderful idea.

1031
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:32,500
And you never know what your family circumstances are going to be.

1032
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:33,460
Thank you.

1033
01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:34,080
Thank you.

1034
01:31:34,820 --> 01:31:35,920
Come on down in front, please.

1035
01:31:42,030 --> 01:31:44,830
Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

1036
01:31:45,770 --> 01:31:47,290
Again, like somebody else mentioned,

1037
01:31:47,450 --> 01:31:50,190
I believe that there is a misconception about manufactured homes.

1038
01:31:50,190 --> 01:31:55,110
they are built in a factory and they're brought in in two pieces or there's something that

1039
01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:59,330
are two stories high and at times they're built better quality than stick built.

1040
01:32:00,290 --> 01:32:05,350
I think what the proposal here is, I think it's the necessity in this town because there

1041
01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:11,870
are so few rental options and fewer options of affordability for a lot of people.

1042
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:15,650
I don't know how anybody else was brought up but I was brought up.

1043
01:32:15,650 --> 01:32:19,890
But my parents, you know, you live with you and you take care of them as they age.

1044
01:32:20,590 --> 01:32:22,290
And this will definitely help with that.

1045
01:32:22,850 --> 01:32:25,950
So I think it's more than just, you know, something that they want.

1046
01:32:26,130 --> 01:32:33,130
I think this town needs it to help with a lot of the living situations a lot of people

1047
01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:33,550
are in.

1048
01:32:34,290 --> 01:32:34,390
So.

1049
01:32:35,610 --> 01:32:36,070
Good luck.

1050
01:32:36,490 --> 01:32:36,870
Thank you.

1051
01:32:36,990 --> 01:32:37,990
Sam, anybody on the phone please.

1052
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:41,020
Yes, chair.

1053
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:42,020
The caller is unmuted.

1054
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:43,820
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

1055
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,340
I'm Tim Bohen and DOHA and then Owen.

1056
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,660
Yeah, this is really an easy, easy call on this one.

1057
01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:03,800
There's other similar towns to our size and a little bit beyond that this is not a major

1058
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:09,200
issue but some major importance, especially housing where we have here.

1059
01:33:09,780 --> 01:33:15,940
We do need that help and this provides that opportunity and I'm in favor of passage.

1060
01:33:15,940 --> 01:33:26,640
Thank you. Thanks. Go ahead, Bob. Robert Adams, ADAMS. Most of Clark County residents live in a

1061
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:32,800
metropolitan area, but it's a huge place with lots of rural communities that people in them are

1062
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:38,060
real proud about being in a rural community. And just because it's a rule where a law that

1063
01:33:38,060 --> 01:33:44,500
ordinance that Clark County passed doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it, that there's a whole new

1064
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:49,060
technology as far as the small homes right now but right now the internet's

1065
01:33:49,060 --> 01:33:54,320
hold these what's called capsule homes that get unloaded off a flat bed and

1066
01:33:54,320 --> 01:34:00,640
this kind of build themselves that I guess big churches get in the proper get

1067
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:06,860
set on the proper ground and hard ground and get the utilities to it but are

1068
01:34:07,940 --> 01:34:12,060
planning really needs to catch up with all the new technology is the tiny homes

1069
01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:13,680
so that you're out there available with people.

1070
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,240
And this is a good step in the right direction

1071
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,380
and maybe expand a little bit to include some

1072
01:34:19,380 --> 01:34:20,520
of the new stuff that's out there.

1073
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:20,940
Thank you.

1074
01:34:21,220 --> 01:34:21,840
Thank you, sir.

1075
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:23,240
Come on down, Tammy.

1076
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,720
Tammy, fit in the PIT, MN.

1077
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:31,440
Great idea.

1078
01:34:31,780 --> 01:34:33,480
However, I think it could be abused.

1079
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,360
And I think there should be an addition

1080
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:39,160
that the ordinance saying that at least the homeowner

1081
01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:40,300
must be on the property.

1082
01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:42,040
They can't rent out multiple.

1083
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:44,520
They can't just leave and rent out those homes.

1084
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:54,320
because when you live there you care. When you're renting things can go downhill and sometimes some landlords are not the shiniest. Thank you.

1085
01:34:54,620 --> 01:34:56,440
Thank you Sam, anybody on the phone please.

1086
01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:59,960
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted.

1087
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,920
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

1088
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:30,920
Dr. Capua, K-A-P-U-A Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N. I am in favor of passing this proposal for a manufacturer home as an ADU. It's practical. It's feasible for many people. I think we need to do it. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down. Yeah, I know. Right to the point. Oh, well, hell.

1089
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:34,820
Hello, Paul.

1090
01:35:34,820 --> 01:35:39,660
All lemus, L-E-M-U-S, are you folks applicants?

1091
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,560
Oh, how many units are you trying to build if you don't mind me?

1092
01:35:43,580 --> 01:35:50,720
So we got to just have you comment, I can't go back if it's okay with a may I may ask permission to ask them questions.

1093
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,340
Rules are the, okay, yes, okay, okay.

1094
01:35:53,640 --> 01:36:01,340
No, the reason why I was saying though, you know, these developments come in and they do subdivide.

1095
01:36:01,340 --> 01:36:07,380
But like in Amar Gosa Valley where we're at, we have something called land use entitlement rather than zoning.

1096
01:36:07,860 --> 01:36:14,480
And we kind of roll back zoning and put it into the people's hands where they have a right to say, do they want to bill?

1097
01:36:14,780 --> 01:36:18,540
Do they want to grow, do they want to farm, do they want to do agriculture?

1098
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,560
So land use entitlement is another designation.

1099
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,960
I was just going to make a suggestion as a planning guide to sat on the planning committee in Amar Gosa Valley.

1100
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:31,360
and worked on the comprehensive area plan for Nike and also MRGOSA Valley.

1101
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:38,120
It would be wise to just consider, that's fantastic and then when you do that type of project,

1102
01:36:38,540 --> 01:36:43,900
you could also do like an approved plan and allow all the other members of the community to also go

1103
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:49,060
ahead and do a pre-approved plan to just be able to fast track these for everybody in the community,

1104
01:36:49,060 --> 01:36:53,540
if somebody wanted to. Because right now our thing is capital, we need money,

1105
01:36:53,540 --> 01:36:56,900
And these, this would generate a ton of tax revenue.

1106
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:08,540
I mean, where we're looking at, and I'm going to go to Savali, you know, if you were to subdivide some of those lots and actually occupy them, we could solve a lot of our problems with our tax debt and with our commissioner and our night county debt right now.

1107
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:15,240
So I was just going to say, I think for the project, as far as their approval is concerned, that's what I wanted to ask was their personal approval.

1108
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:25,740
You know, I'm for the people, I want to see the people be able to do what they want with their land, and be able to make some money, be able to subdivide them if they want, and be able to sell them and have the rights to do what they want with their property.

1109
01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:27,600
So that's land use entitlement.

1110
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:28,980
Thank you.

1111
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:30,800
Same anybody on the phone, please.

1112
01:37:32,970 --> 01:37:34,530
No chair, one down, sir.

1113
01:37:34,530 --> 01:37:35,530
Oh,

1114
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:39,500
members, everybody.

1115
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:41,420
Bruce Johnson, GOHN, that's all right.

1116
01:37:42,580 --> 01:37:55,700
You know, I'm all for making necessary changes in order to be able to bring in optional housing facilities, structures.

1117
01:37:56,380 --> 01:38:03,300
I don't want to see it be limited, just manufactured homes or which everybody is classifying as manufactured homes.

1118
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:09,480
there are actually great homes are built out of shipping containers I'm in

1119
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:18,000
development with somebody on now building basically a steel stud type of

1120
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:23,160
structure that is actually going to be cited with lightweight concrete so that

1121
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:28,960
it is fireproof it will not be able to burn unless you catch up on fire on the

1122
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:34,440
inside and I find that is being something that could be very useful for a lot

1123
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:39,280
of people out here in our climate so I want to see to it that everybody

1124
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:44,480
keeps an open mind so that we can have some other options. Let's not keep

1125
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:48,700
it limited to just manufactured homes that everybody knows it comes in on a

1126
01:38:48,700 --> 01:38:53,420
trailer and I'll yield. Thank you. Thank you. Come on, Dale, ma'am.

1127
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:58,700
Good morning.

1128
01:38:58,700 --> 01:39:05,560
Julia Mughal, M-U-S-A-L-L. This is actually kind of ironic that it's on the

1129
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:13,400
agenda today. I have a manufactured home, three-bedroom two-bath. My mother is

1130
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:19,980
almost 92 and I'm trying to talk her into coming here. But my mother still

1131
01:39:19,980 --> 01:39:29,720
drives, plays billiards, gardens, plays botchyball, and she did not want to come because she

1132
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:30,880
likes her independence.

1133
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:38,060
Even though she still needs somebody to be around her, and we talked about putting

1134
01:39:38,060 --> 01:39:43,940
something on the property, it doesn't have to be a big huge manufactured home.

1135
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,440
They have a smaller manufactured homes.

1136
01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:59,980
and why put all that money into it and then have somebody have to remove it, because especially nowadays, our economy is

1137
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:18,180
So bad that I'm sure there's plenty of family members that would be able to use, you know, the ADU. And so anyway, I am, I am for it. And I hope you guys approve it. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, anybody else, please.

1138
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:34,360
No, sir. Okay, we're going to close out public comment, commissioners, do you have questions for the applicants? No, I just have statements if you don't mind. There was stuff that was said.

1139
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:42,340
I understand that it's 1,500 square foot or less, and we already have casitas, which are site belts.

1140
01:40:42,340 --> 01:40:47,480
The difference, what this does, is we already have a site built capability.

1141
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,520
Now, we're going to have a manufactured capability.

1142
01:40:51,300 --> 01:40:59,340
And so, manufactured could be basically a lot of different things, not just manufactured housing as we see it from factory home center.

1143
01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:03,460
I also found it very interesting that 14 people actually agreed with this.

1144
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:09,120
Wow, I'm floored, we actually agree on something, thank you Chair.

1145
01:41:10,180 --> 01:41:13,400
Thank you, Commissioner's up north, you got anything for us?

1146
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,260
Mr. Chair, there's nothing else I'd like to make a motion.

1147
01:41:18,580 --> 01:41:19,280
I'd like to hear one.

1148
01:41:20,340 --> 01:41:22,380
Mr. Chairman, may I just read that briefly?

1149
01:41:23,860 --> 01:41:30,740
My only question is that manufactured homes is a term, and I'm supportive of this, but

1150
01:41:31,140 --> 01:41:34,960
just the ambiguity that was just inserted, this could be more than just manufactured homes.

1151
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,000
I'm just questioning what that means.

1152
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:43,560
A manufactured home can be depending on who you're talking to, different things.

1153
01:41:44,500 --> 01:41:51,200
Anyone who uses certain systems knows that manufactured home is commonly referred to as a mobile home.

1154
01:41:51,200 --> 01:42:01,060
That's fine. When it's attached, it has a certificate of attachment and some guy goes and takes three bars and twists them and they signs the magic piece of paper that says this is now attached.

1155
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:07,140
She gets filed with the assessor and it becomes real property. The legal definition of real property, of course, is separate.

1156
01:42:07,700 --> 01:42:09,780
And so we can talk about this for 35 minutes, I won't do that.

1157
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:18,400
My question is just bluntly and directly, is this only pertains to manufactured housing that is attached? Is that correct?

1158
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,820
Can anyone answer that question?

1159
01:42:21,820 --> 01:42:23,380
So no, it's not.

1160
01:42:23,820 --> 01:42:28,400
You can do either a site built ADU, or you can do a manufactured home that is an ADU.

1161
01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:32,600
So now if you're going to be financing the home as a chattelone, it will maintain its personal

1162
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,820
property status, but after it's paid off, then it can be converted.

1163
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:41,040
If it's cash, or if they want to absorb it, do like a refire or something like that, then

1164
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,140
it would be converted to real property.

1165
01:42:42,420 --> 01:42:44,220
It just depends on the specific circumstance.

1166
01:42:46,210 --> 01:43:11,390
Also, I want to point out that in the year 2000 Senate Bill 323 took the discrimination of manufactured homes away and identified them as single-family dwellings and that manufactured homes to go in sub-evisions alongside conventional built, stick-built homes without discriminating against them.

1167
01:43:11,390 --> 01:43:16,470
So, manufactured homes in the state of Nevada are considered single-family dwellings.

1168
01:43:19,190 --> 01:43:23,170
Okay, so the question, first of all, Fannie Mae is not going to buy that.

1169
01:43:23,550 --> 01:43:25,290
So it would have to be a hard money alone.

1170
01:43:25,450 --> 01:43:27,010
And that just causes a lot of complications.

1171
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:32,370
I hope for anyone listening genuinely understands that Fannie Mae, I don't know if FHA

1172
01:43:32,370 --> 01:43:33,390
will ensure it.

1173
01:43:33,390 --> 01:43:37,790
This goes away into, inside baseball stuff, but Fannie Mae is not going to buy that probably.

1174
01:43:38,370 --> 01:43:41,050
And so there will be a lot of issues there that has nothing to do with this law.

1175
01:43:41,050 --> 01:43:44,910
But again, I'm just, I'm just questioning it just for the legislative record.

1176
01:43:45,290 --> 01:43:55,850
The intent of this is just for, there's manufactured homes that are attached, there are manufactured homes that are not attached, both are commonly purchased in, in, in, in Nye County, and, and that's fine.

1177
01:43:56,790 --> 01:44:08,230
But how do we distinguish the difference between if I, if I just rolled up, I don't know, pick up truck with, you know, some crazy looking thing in the back of it.

1178
01:44:08,230 --> 01:44:11,970
And I'm living out of there that could be considered an accessory dwelling unit under this bill.

1179
01:44:15,670 --> 01:44:21,220
I want to point out that anything can be an accessory dwelling.

1180
01:44:21,740 --> 01:44:24,680
Connex boxes that are converted into housing.

1181
01:44:25,340 --> 01:44:33,800
Boxable, which is a company that is growing by big numbers that build casitas in ADUs.

1182
01:44:34,630 --> 01:44:40,920
They are regulated through the manufactured housing division along with what I sell.

1183
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:45,500
And I'm not the only one, even though I'm bringing this bill.

1184
01:44:46,140 --> 01:44:49,260
I'm speaking for the industry in general.

1185
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:57,480
We've got craftsman homes that is going to applaud if we get this passed because they're going to be able to sell more homes too.

1186
01:44:57,620 --> 01:44:59,280
I'm not doing this to sell more homes.

1187
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,940
We've got Clayton Homes out of Vegas, which is a very big catalog store, and we've got all kinds of Internet dealerships. They're all going to be selling homes, and they're not just factory-built homes. There are all kinds of homes that are going to fit this bill. I'd also Celeste Sanable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L, like to say that we do have a section of code in 1704 that deal with manufactured housing and factory-built homes. That does set an age limit.

1188
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:35,100
But it does state that they have to be converted to real property, so they aren't just able to come in.

1189
01:45:36,060 --> 01:45:36,460
Thank you.

1190
01:45:36,540 --> 01:45:40,480
I appreciate that, I think that addresses it, and this is just manufactured home housing.

1191
01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:42,380
That's a yes or a question, is it, yes, is that correct?

1192
01:45:43,340 --> 01:45:44,300
Yeah, I'm fully supportive.

1193
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:50,480
I think we're fine, I just, part of this was just me trying to let people know that just be aware.

1194
01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:58,940
I, in my business, have a lot of people who don't really understand, and there's a lot of places in my county that fall in this, and they don't understand that Fannie Mae won't buy this.

1195
01:45:58,940 --> 01:46:00,680
and if any may won't buy this, your friendly broker

1196
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:02,660
around this tree probably doesn't want to originate it.

1197
01:46:02,940 --> 01:46:05,120
It's a whole long thing, but just reach out

1198
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:06,660
if you have any questions about what you have

1199
01:46:06,660 --> 01:46:07,460
or what you're doing.

1200
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:12,000
I'm sure that Mr. Schulte is a great resource for this.

1201
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,180
Go to him or go to anybody who does this for a living

1202
01:46:14,180 --> 01:46:15,700
and they'll be able to explain what it's up to you.

1203
01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:17,400
I am supportive of this, but thank you, Mr. Chair.

1204
01:46:18,260 --> 01:46:18,740
Thank you.

1205
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:21,180
I wanted to touch a little bit on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

1206
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:22,840
This would be for subsequent, like,

1207
01:46:23,020 --> 01:46:25,040
say that you already have a home and you have an A to U unit

1208
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:25,400
on there.

1209
01:46:25,780 --> 01:46:28,140
I actually did check there's some lenders that won't do it.

1210
01:46:28,140 --> 01:46:33,980
there's some lenders that will. So Fannie Mae will not, but FHA, you can. That's

1211
01:46:33,980 --> 01:46:37,660
Freddie Mac. So you would just have to do FHA loan is what you would have to do

1212
01:46:37,660 --> 01:46:40,760
and make sure you talked to your particular lender to make sure their

1213
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:45,340
underwriters will approve. And the one thing that I did find is the homes that

1214
01:46:45,340 --> 01:46:50,440
people have where they have two homes on there already, they were not approved

1215
01:46:50,440 --> 01:46:55,680
through the county as an ADU. So the way it zoned or land use, it says it's

1216
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,940
two single-family residences, and that's one of the underwriters' issues.

1217
01:46:59,460 --> 01:47:03,060
It has to be listed as an ADU unit, not two single-family residences.

1218
01:47:04,580 --> 01:47:05,200
Thank you, ma'am.

1219
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,860
I think she isn't sure if any may as a purchaser, they have to have a funding source.

1220
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,260
It gets really confusing.

1221
01:47:10,440 --> 01:47:11,140
I'm just telling people.

1222
01:47:11,260 --> 01:47:14,620
I'm not trying to scare people, just make sure that you know what you're doing if you're

1223
01:47:14,620 --> 01:47:19,200
going to do this, and you'll find out first from someone like Mr. Shilty or whoever handles

1224
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:19,980
these things professionally.

1225
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:20,700
Thank you, sir.

1226
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:21,200
Thank you, Madam.

1227
01:47:22,140 --> 01:47:22,440
Thank you.

1228
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:23,680
Commissioner Cone, are you ready?

1229
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:24,500
I'm ready.

1230
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:36,020
I would like to make a motion to adopt 90 bill 2026, there's 12 within effective date of September 21st, 2026.

1231
01:47:36,980 --> 01:47:37,380
Second.

1232
01:47:37,820 --> 01:47:38,600
Two more seconds.

1233
01:47:39,020 --> 01:47:41,000
We have a motion on the floor in two seconds.

1234
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:42,180
I'm going to call for the vote.

1235
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:42,940
Aye.

1236
01:47:44,020 --> 01:47:44,600
Two more.

1237
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:44,940
Aye.

1238
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Baskovich aye, that carries 5-0.

1239
01:47:47,540 --> 01:47:48,020
Thank you, guys.

1240
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:48,940
Thank you, Celeste.

1241
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:49,100
Yeah.

1242
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:51,420
Thank you, guys, very much.

1243
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:52,020
Thank you.

1244
01:47:53,820 --> 01:47:56,500
Okay, all right,

1245
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:07,060
let's do seven, please, whoever wants to read it.

1246
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:13,120
Item seven, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action, public hearing, discussion, and deliberation

1247
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:22,200
on a CCMP26-4, an application for a major master plan amendment to change by parcels 78.99

1248
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:42,200
9 acres from rural density residential to low density residential to conform with a proposed zone change located at 1-8-10 south persons road 1-8-1-1 south Butler street 3-3-1-0 east winery road 3-4-4-0 east winery road and 3-1-2-0 east winery road

1249
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:59,640
data 89049, Assessor's Personal Numbers, 027451-1302745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109,

1250
01:49:05,980 --> 01:49:08,820
Dennis

1251
01:49:08,820 --> 01:49:16,140
2-5-12, a conforming zone change to change six parcels totaling 79.43 acres from Village

1252
01:49:16,140 --> 01:49:22,540
Residential VR-22 Village Residential VR-10 for the proposed residential subdivisions

1253
01:49:22,540 --> 01:49:29,200
to create 198 single-family lots ranging from approximately 10,000 to 20,000 square feet

1254
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:36,640
located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street, 3-310 East Winery Road,

1255
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:08,660
7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 8, 0, 2, 7, 4, 5, 1, 0, 9, Dennis Scott, Sheldon, property owner, Timothy Sutton, ESQ,

1256
01:50:08,900 --> 01:50:16,080
agent, applicant, and C, Certified Print Regional Planning Commission Resolution 2026-03,

1257
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,440
a resolution to amend the master plan designation within the Print Regional Planning District,

1258
01:50:20,440 --> 01:50:32,680
district located at 1-810 South Parsons Road, 1-811 South Butler Street, 3-310 East Winery Road, 3-4-4-0 East Winery Road, and 3-1-2-0 East Winery Road.

1259
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:49,360
from Nevada 89048, assessors' personal number 02745113, 02745106, 02745107, 02745108, 02745109, Dennis

1260
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:54,840
Scott-Sheldon, property owner, Thomas Helms, PLS, Dwyer, engineering, ink, agent, applicant.

1261
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:56,600
Thank you.

1262
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:58,900
Thank you.

1263
01:50:58,900 --> 01:50:59,380
Thank you.

1264
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:01,040
Hello,

1265
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:03,760
Keyanna.

1266
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:05,080
Hello.

1267
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:10,160
Keyanna, Madisi, QIA and A, MED, ICI, Principal Planner.

1268
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:17,460
The Parampirational Planning Commission heard this item at their July 15, 2026 meeting.

1269
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:23,900
After discussion of the items, the PRPC voted 4-2 to recommend approval to the Board of

1270
01:51:23,900 --> 01:51:30,680
county commissioners and we are here with the applicant if you have any questions.

1271
01:51:31,460 --> 01:51:34,000
All right thank you for that so I think what we're going to do is open up public

1272
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:37,930
comment so come on up.

1273
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:49,400
Good morning Julie and I'm use all Amazon Mary USALL. This

1274
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:55,160
application is procedurally flawed and violates night county code Title 17

1275
01:51:55,160 --> 01:52:02,240
do process. First, the developer completely failed to hold the mandatory neighborhood meeting.

1276
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:10,000
This workshop is a strict prerequisite under our zoning codes. It is designed to give local citizens

1277
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:19,320
a voice before an application moves forward. Bypassing entirely strips the community of our legal rights to do process.

1278
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:24,720
A developer's application is legally classified as incomplete.

1279
01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:30,420
The Perump Regional Planning Commission failed to uphold county code regarding neighbor

1280
01:52:30,420 --> 01:52:31,220
notifications.

1281
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:39,320
They approved a recommendation for this despite a documented breach of bill number 202-3.09.

1282
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:47,860
Because the developer, the mandatory community outreach, we asked the board of county commissioners

1283
01:52:47,860 --> 01:52:52,060
to exercise its final authority, reject the recommendation

1284
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:55,940
and deny the applicant and developer's application.

1285
01:52:57,870 --> 01:53:01,450
The recommendation of approval is legally compromised

1286
01:53:01,450 --> 01:53:04,670
because it was built on a broken notice process.

1287
01:53:05,370 --> 01:53:08,050
Night County chose to protect its residents

1288
01:53:08,050 --> 01:53:11,710
by adopting Title 17 zoning code.

1289
01:53:12,090 --> 01:53:14,150
I already filed a formal complaint

1290
01:53:14,150 --> 01:53:16,070
with the planning department regarding

1291
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:21,750
Starting this structural violation, voting to approve this project today creates a dangerous

1292
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:27,530
precedent and exposes the county to legal appeals over notice and due process failures

1293
01:53:28,010 --> 01:53:34,410
for the protection of per-romp residents and the integrity of our land use laws, I strongly

1294
01:53:34,410 --> 01:53:36,390
urge the board to reject this.

1295
01:53:37,190 --> 01:53:38,030
Thank you.

1296
01:53:38,370 --> 01:53:39,090
Thank you, Sam.

1297
01:53:39,230 --> 01:53:39,970
Anybody on the phone, please.

1298
01:53:42,130 --> 01:53:42,750
Yes, chair.

1299
01:53:42,850 --> 01:53:43,770
The caller is unmuted.

1300
01:53:43,950 --> 01:53:45,650
Please speak and spoil your name for the record.

1301
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:55,360
Hello, commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A, and if it's okay with y'all, I'd

1302
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:59,360
just like to know that my communications okay and our line is active.

1303
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:02,920
Can you

1304
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:08,800
acknowledge? Go ahead, sir. Oh, thank you, thank you. I appreciate

1305
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:14,760
thank you, thank you. Kudos to the last speaker. Really well said and articulated.

1306
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:25,180
And the thing that caught my ear and hopefully our state and federal partners have that affiliated disclosure when it came to Tim Sutton.

1307
01:54:26,500 --> 01:54:30,360
So that's how easy it is to go X for a take. Thank y'all.

1308
01:54:31,340 --> 01:54:32,540
Come on down, Beth.

1309
01:54:36,810 --> 01:54:41,110
That's for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

1310
01:54:41,650 --> 01:54:44,050
I'm speaking on this as a regular person,

1311
01:54:44,590 --> 01:54:48,630
and not a representative of the RPC.

1312
01:54:50,670 --> 01:54:53,270
I want everybody to be sure and listen to this.

1313
01:54:54,050 --> 01:54:59,610
This is 198 homes on top of the approximately

1314
01:54:59,610 --> 01:54:59,870
that we

1315
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:10,280
9,000 homes that are already in the pipeline being proposed on property with known flooding concerns.

1316
01:55:11,300 --> 01:55:17,540
So we're talking 9,900 homes. What the hell? Let's just go ahead and build homes for the heck of it.

1317
01:55:18,300 --> 01:55:27,520
The applicant proposes berms and detention basins on the property to hold the water that comes from the flooding.

1318
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:34,500
Why increase the density now before we know whether the infrastructure and drainage systems

1319
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:38,920
necessary to support that increased density will actually work?

1320
01:55:39,380 --> 01:55:42,480
We do not have the infrastructure to support this.

1321
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:48,840
We need to understand our water and infrastructure and the length of time needed to plan for it

1322
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,760
before adding more density.

1323
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:55,500
I am here to protect the integrity of the master plan.

1324
01:55:55,500 --> 01:56:02,000
The master plan provides predictability, reflects community values, and guides growth.

1325
01:56:02,380 --> 01:56:07,640
If the county changes a master plan every time a developer comes in and says that they

1326
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:12,120
want to change it, what the heck is our master plan for?

1327
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:18,380
I mean, we wrote it, we spent hours and hours, and now you guys just, I don't understand

1328
01:56:18,380 --> 01:56:20,420
why you keep changing these things.

1329
01:56:20,420 --> 01:56:29,560
What has changed since the adoption of a master plan that justifies change in the property from rural density residential to low density?

1330
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,260
Do we get new jobs, infrastructure, more schools?

1331
01:56:33,900 --> 01:56:36,000
Do we discover another aquifer?

1332
01:56:36,700 --> 01:56:38,160
If none of these things have changed.

1333
01:56:38,180 --> 01:56:38,580
Thank you, Beth.

1334
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:39,900
Thank you.

1335
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,080
Sam, you got anybody for us, please.

1336
01:56:43,220 --> 01:56:44,880
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

1337
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:46,660
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

1338
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:57,540
Yes, Amy Nelson, NEL, S-O-N, if this is the one that I was listening to at the planning

1339
01:56:57,540 --> 01:57:01,560
and zoning meeting, there are many reasons not to accept it.

1340
01:57:03,100 --> 01:57:09,320
Kim Sutton spoke up for the owner who was not available to speak to anyone else except

1341
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:10,280
for him on the phone.

1342
01:57:10,780 --> 01:57:14,160
There were a lot of questions that went unanswered.

1343
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:20,760
And part of this is a release of distance of the leeway.

1344
01:57:21,420 --> 01:57:22,800
It was 1,000 feet.

1345
01:57:23,020 --> 01:57:26,620
Now it's, if this one is correct, it's 300 feet.

1346
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,020
And the height of buildings was removed.

1347
01:57:31,420 --> 01:57:33,580
It's in there somewhere from the same room.

1348
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:40,260
So this will open the door for a lot of things other than homes.

1349
01:57:40,260 --> 01:57:47,440
If we protest too much, they'll push the more of their solar farms right there.

1350
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:49,740
They can use as much water.

1351
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:55,720
They've resorted to saying that's the equivalent of so many homes anyway.

1352
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,020
So I'm not convinced that they won't use it.

1353
01:57:59,460 --> 01:58:04,340
If they can't use it for data centers, they'll use it for solar farms.

1354
01:58:04,820 --> 01:58:06,740
So I'm not in favor of this at all.

1355
01:58:06,980 --> 01:58:07,380
Thank you.

1356
01:58:07,940 --> 01:58:08,640
Thank you.

1357
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:11,820
And come on, Dancer, and we're on item 7.

1358
01:58:14,410 --> 01:58:20,690
Stephen Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N, I live on winery road, and the current heavy truck traffic

1359
01:58:20,690 --> 01:58:23,470
continues to destroy the sides of the road.

1360
01:58:23,950 --> 01:58:29,230
If one of these trucks is coming towards you, you both must put your right side tires off

1361
01:58:29,230 --> 01:58:30,470
the road to pass safely.

1362
01:58:31,110 --> 01:58:35,970
I have an 8-inch-by-8-inch ditch at the end of my driveway, I must refill every time it rains.

1363
01:58:35,970 --> 01:58:51,930
The addition of two to 400 cars daily, guessing on everybody is going to work, plus service and delivery vehicles will further erode the road, even as some of the vehicles exit the development onto Cortina Street.

1364
01:58:52,370 --> 01:59:02,590
If you thought traffic at 160 and homestead was bad, just wait and do you see how bad the traffic at 160 and winery becomes? Should this development be permitted?

1365
01:59:04,170 --> 01:59:10,330
You all have this, I live there, right in the middle of it.

1366
01:59:11,810 --> 01:59:17,230
Is there a need for 198 tightly packed point two acre houses in this area?

1367
01:59:18,130 --> 01:59:23,150
There are over 200 empty half acre logs in the winery area between Warnery Road and

1368
01:59:23,150 --> 01:59:23,730
Zuni Avenue.

1369
01:59:23,730 --> 01:59:24,910
I counted this morning.

1370
01:59:25,950 --> 01:59:31,790
Finally, the addition of multi-story houses in this development will restrict my view of

1371
01:59:31,790 --> 01:59:33,350
of the Mt. Charleston Range.

1372
01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:35,070
I urge you to deny this.

1373
01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:35,810
Thank you.

1374
01:59:36,290 --> 01:59:37,990
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

1375
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:41,800
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

1376
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:43,640
Please speak in the spoiler name for the record.

1377
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:50,320
My name is Matt Sather, F-A-D-L-E-R.

1378
01:59:50,940 --> 01:59:53,480
There's gonna have to come a point in time

1379
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,180
where we have to kind of put our foot down

1380
01:59:55,180 --> 01:59:58,220
and stop measures like this.

1381
01:59:59,040 --> 01:59:59,960
The plan calls for...

1382
02:00:05,940 --> 02:00:29,980
Number of thinkors and conveniences to speak, to reflect their

1383
02:00:29,980 --> 02:00:31,740
community, not just my decent, thanks a lot.

1384
02:00:32,780 --> 02:00:34,520
Thank you, come on down in front, please.

1385
02:00:38,020 --> 02:00:40,560
Angelina Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N.

1386
02:00:41,220 --> 02:00:43,260
There seems to be a pattern here where residents

1387
02:00:43,260 --> 02:00:47,660
are not notified prior to projects beginning in areas.

1388
02:00:48,340 --> 02:00:49,760
This is not the first one.

1389
02:00:50,500 --> 02:00:52,920
So if that's trying to be skimmed by

1390
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:54,140
without notifying the residents,

1391
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,420
and I'm sorry, but Mr. Sutton here has a pattern

1392
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,200
of being dishonest with the community.

1393
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:06,020
So, with that alone, best say a lot.

1394
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:14,870
Now, besides that, I don't understand why it's things like this that are not necessary,

1395
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:17,210
that it's no way going to benefit anybody in the community.

1396
02:01:18,350 --> 02:01:18,530
All right?

1397
02:01:19,010 --> 02:01:23,690
Unlike the other issue that we had on the agenda, there was a benefit to the community.

1398
02:01:25,830 --> 02:01:30,150
It's nobody's looking at how it's affecting the other residents on anything it seems like.

1399
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:34,090
And I think that, you know, certain things need to be reviewed.

1400
02:01:34,590 --> 02:01:39,710
I think maybe the commissioners need to go out there and view the area before making

1401
02:01:39,710 --> 02:01:40,670
decisions on anything.

1402
02:01:41,890 --> 02:01:46,530
And as far as I can see, the planning commission nor this board ever goes out to these properties

1403
02:01:47,010 --> 02:01:51,050
or to these proposed sites to view the area to get an idea of what's going on.

1404
02:01:52,650 --> 02:01:56,550
So how you guys can make a decision on anything based off of that is beyond me.

1405
02:01:57,070 --> 02:01:59,570
And as far as I'm concerned, though, this should be denied.

1406
02:02:00,350 --> 02:02:00,990
Thank you.

1407
02:02:01,530 --> 02:02:02,070
Thank you.

1408
02:02:02,150 --> 02:02:02,290
Thank you, Sam.

1409
02:02:02,330 --> 02:02:02,930
Anybody on the phone?

1410
02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:03,170
Please.

1411
02:02:04,350 --> 02:02:05,030
Yes, chair.

1412
02:02:05,110 --> 02:02:06,070
The caller is unmuted.

1413
02:02:06,290 --> 02:02:07,970
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

1414
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,340
Trisha from R-O-B-B.

1415
02:02:15,580 --> 02:02:16,020
Sorry.

1416
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:16,860
It has been sick.

1417
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:19,400
Yeah.

1418
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:20,840
I agree with everyone else.

1419
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:27,340
And not only that, I'm kind of tired of seeing all these developers come in here and

1420
02:02:27,340 --> 02:02:28,800
and try and take over our town

1421
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,200
when it's supposed to be a rural,

1422
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:32,720
unincorporated town.

1423
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:35,560
I don't know whatever happened to the code of the West,

1424
02:02:35,780 --> 02:02:37,580
but it seems to have been forgotten.

1425
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:39,920
And I think that everybody would like

1426
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:41,400
to have more of the code of the West.

1427
02:02:41,940 --> 02:02:44,980
Not only that, I feel as though giving priority

1428
02:02:44,980 --> 02:02:47,320
to other people for these big developments

1429
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:52,840
is basically overseeing all of the utility challenge lots

1430
02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:53,920
and their rights.

1431
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:59,600
they deserve to not be ignored. Thank you. Thank you. Come on down, sir.

1432
02:03:02,300 --> 02:03:11,160
Good afternoon. Richard Hunter, HUN TER. I also live on Winery Road. I've been there

1433
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:16,160
less than five years and we've had three different occasions where public works had to

1434
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:23,120
come out and clean the road. Recently we had a little pond going at Winery down by the

1435
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:27,600
mobile station, with all the heavy trucks we ended up with a broken water main.

1436
02:03:28,760 --> 02:03:36,480
So, you know, I'm not against people developing things, but until we have the proper drainage,

1437
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:42,500
you know, it's just not going to work, and flood control is something that's getting

1438
02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:49,540
out of hand in this community because, I mean, look if we cover up 80 acres, where's that

1439
02:03:49,540 --> 02:03:50,420
water going to go?

1440
02:03:50,420 --> 02:03:57,080
It's not fair to the people when you're sending all that water and debris into their property.

1441
02:03:59,950 --> 02:04:11,530
I'm against it unless there's some good, maybe we need to look at some different ways to qualify these people for building there.

1442
02:04:11,970 --> 02:04:15,130
And flood control has got to be one of them, thank you.

1443
02:04:15,390 --> 02:04:15,770
Thank you, sir.

1444
02:04:16,210 --> 02:04:16,790
Come on down, sir.

1445
02:04:16,790 --> 02:04:17,770
Okay,

1446
02:04:28,010 --> 02:04:33,870
my name is Mike McKenzie, M-A-C-K-E-N-C-I-E splash mall B-H-L.

1447
02:04:34,370 --> 02:04:39,990
After 42 years experience in water quality management, water quality distribution management,

1448
02:04:40,570 --> 02:04:46,730
member of American society civil engineers since 1994, in water facilities construction.

1449
02:04:47,550 --> 02:04:49,990
Commissioners, I'm against this zoning change.

1450
02:04:50,850 --> 02:04:56,470
Simple reason, smaller logs do not create more water, more road money, more share.

1451
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:58,550
fire, fire, fire, fire, fire.

1452
02:04:58,650 --> 02:04:59,970
See, you only create more.

1453
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,340
Our house is on the same land. Basin 162s, we already know, is a verb pumped over allocated. You just voted 50 for a water ban, because it was not sufficient to take that giant demand. Housing density is the same math on a smaller scale. A half acre lot is one household. Cut that down to 10,000, 20,000 square feet. Then now you're typing four more toilets, more sinks.

1454
02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:32,320
more landscape, more people washing the cars.

1455
02:05:33,100 --> 02:05:34,280
We can't handle it.

1456
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:38,420
And rezoning does not add one acre foot of water

1457
02:05:38,420 --> 02:05:39,700
to the soccer park.

1458
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:44,640
It's going to take away roads, services, work area.

1459
02:05:45,100 --> 02:05:46,160
They all work the same way.

1460
02:05:46,660 --> 02:05:50,320
More houses means more road trips that are already failing.

1461
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,140
Take a look at Haven Ranch Road.

1462
02:05:52,380 --> 02:05:53,800
You have that development going there.

1463
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:54,860
That road is crap.

1464
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:56,220
Sorry for my language.

1465
02:05:56,220 --> 02:06:01,220
So again, I'm just against it, please be careful with what you do.

1466
02:06:01,860 --> 02:06:05,380
We only have one heart, don't have more people to it.

1467
02:06:05,860 --> 02:06:06,260
Thank you, sir.

1468
02:06:06,980 --> 02:06:08,220
Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

1469
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:12,940
No chair.

1470
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:14,080
One down, Linda.

1471
02:06:16,690 --> 02:06:18,010
Linda Clark, sale the RK.

1472
02:06:19,050 --> 02:06:22,270
I heard the last meeting we went to when they talked about this project.

1473
02:06:23,070 --> 02:06:27,650
Sounds nice and a nice neighborhood, but I listened to the people that lived there and talked about

1474
02:06:27,650 --> 02:06:29,350
the flooding, the bad streets.

1475
02:06:30,570 --> 02:06:35,850
in a flood zone and how many problems they were having with the water and I think

1476
02:06:35,850 --> 02:06:40,510
and why are we doing this to people? Doesn't make any sense.

1477
02:06:43,110 --> 02:06:44,290
It's lunacy if you

1478
02:06:44,290 --> 02:06:48,870
ask me. All these building in these new homes, they're lovely. Sure they are.

1479
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:53,670
Cost a lot of money. We have a lot of them sitting vacant because they can't sell

1480
02:06:53,670 --> 02:06:57,830
them. We have a lot of houses in the development around the whole town that

1481
02:06:57,830 --> 02:07:03,890
aren't selling. And I understand that our property value is based on a figure I heard this morning

1482
02:07:03,890 --> 02:07:09,990
or yesterday had gone down at least 2% to probably more than that. So if we're going to keep

1483
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:15,350
building homes, what's the purpose if there's not going to be anybody that wants them? Yeah, eventually

1484
02:07:15,350 --> 02:07:19,570
you might sell them, but we've got a lot of problems there we need to solve before we get to that point.

1485
02:07:19,830 --> 02:07:26,770
And we can't keep building homes and keep using water we don't have to, for who? Developers?

1486
02:07:26,770 --> 02:07:28,890
There's nothing I get, Mr. Sudden, in his fact.

1487
02:07:29,110 --> 02:07:30,710
I don't care who it is.

1488
02:07:31,370 --> 02:07:36,470
There is too much of this going on in our community that needs to stop.

1489
02:07:36,710 --> 02:07:40,590
We've got to take a stop and start looking at where are we going.

1490
02:07:41,550 --> 02:07:44,430
I understand even the fairgrounds is on a flood zone.

1491
02:07:44,950 --> 02:07:46,650
Do you think the BLM wanted to keep it?

1492
02:07:46,810 --> 02:07:48,830
No, give it to the city to count.

1493
02:07:49,330 --> 02:07:50,010
They didn't want it.

1494
02:07:50,470 --> 02:07:52,390
Okay, so where do we go from here?

1495
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:59,310
We need to just put a big stop, a big plug in the hole and start looking at where we're

1496
02:07:59,310 --> 02:08:03,270
going in this town and why are we over building the stuff that we don't need.

1497
02:08:03,810 --> 02:08:06,330
You think all these people are going to come here and fill these homes?

1498
02:08:06,910 --> 02:08:07,570
There's no jobs.

1499
02:08:07,790 --> 02:08:08,390
Oh, I know.

1500
02:08:08,530 --> 02:08:12,590
We're going to have the solar jobs and we're going to have all the DC jobs.

1501
02:08:12,990 --> 02:08:14,810
That's a bunch of bull crap and we know it.

1502
02:08:15,310 --> 02:08:17,210
So where are the people going to work?

1503
02:08:17,670 --> 02:08:18,890
Yeah, we're going to have a lot of kids.

1504
02:08:19,330 --> 02:08:21,290
I heard we had 22,000 kids here.

1505
02:08:21,430 --> 02:08:21,970
Do you believe that?

1506
02:08:21,970 --> 02:08:26,570
Thank you, say I'm anybody on the phone please. No chair. Come on down, sir

1507
02:08:30,780 --> 02:08:35,120
Michael Bergen last name is B. U. R. G. A. N. I

1508
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:37,160
Opposed this change for three reasons

1509
02:08:37,700 --> 02:08:39,980
First, I think the master plan is already

1510
02:08:40,980 --> 02:08:46,420
Identified enough acreage for high-density subdivisions. We don't need to add any more a second

1511
02:08:46,420 --> 02:08:50,140
I believe the plan submitted violates NCC

1512
02:08:51,820 --> 02:08:52,820
16.28.

1513
02:08:52,820 --> 02:09:03,380
8.155 that says you can't have lots less than 20,000 square feet unless you have a PUD or an approved development agreement and either exists.

1514
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:12,360
Third, this lot is for sale. The owner from Vegas bought it for a million. He's selling it for $7.5 million.

1515
02:09:12,940 --> 02:09:16,440
Hasn't been improved. He has no intention to build on it.

1516
02:09:16,860 --> 02:09:20,480
The zone change has only one goal to increase his profit.

1517
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:27,920
So, commissioners, you want to side with your constituents in Prump who are against this?

1518
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:31,920
Or do you want to take the side of a land speculator from Clark County?

1519
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:34,980
Thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

1520
02:09:37,540 --> 02:09:37,940
No, Chair.

1521
02:09:38,300 --> 02:09:38,800
Well done, Anthony.

1522
02:09:43,020 --> 02:09:46,040
Anthony Greco, GR Recio, I'm against this.

1523
02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:55,340
I don't think until after July of 27, and we get our water study, we should do anything more than one of two homes at a time.

1524
02:09:55,340 --> 02:09:59,720
people who have property for years that want to retire here that's fine. Any

1525
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:16,120
These developments, we don't need it, and everything we don't want, Tim Sutton is representing them people. Okay, this seems to be a problem to me. I don't know if he's a bad guy or not, but in my opinion, I'm going to need two showers just to get some standing next to him.

1526
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:16,860
We

1527
02:10:19,870 --> 02:10:23,470
can be polite, say I'm anybody on the phone please.

1528
02:10:26,220 --> 02:10:26,480
No chair.

1529
02:10:26,940 --> 02:10:27,520
Monday on Deborah.

1530
02:10:33,300 --> 02:10:37,140
Deborah Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S.

1531
02:10:40,310 --> 02:10:49,950
This is not a good thing, especially after what I just heard the previous gentleman say.

1532
02:10:52,190 --> 02:11:05,430
but I know that developers buy and buy make improvements, make changes to zoning or whatever and then they sell it for a major profit.

1533
02:11:06,710 --> 02:11:11,230
I don't think we need to, we should be doing that in Nye County.

1534
02:11:11,790 --> 02:11:15,770
It needs to be, the developer is going to build on it.

1535
02:11:15,770 --> 02:11:24,050
And it needs to be the developers going to pay for the extra infrastructure to prevent the flooding.

1536
02:11:25,570 --> 02:11:35,310
And if they decide that they want to have a community water system, they need to pay for that too.

1537
02:11:36,190 --> 02:11:40,610
I feel very strongly about that coming from a family of builders and developers.

1538
02:11:40,610 --> 02:11:41,730
come

1539
02:11:43,910 --> 02:11:44,390
on down sir.

1540
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:56,170
Commissioners, Reggie, Federal, FED are all. You know our family we love

1541
02:11:56,170 --> 02:12:03,990
Prump and the housing having 100 additional 198 homes. We live up in that direction on

1542
02:12:03,990 --> 02:12:11,590
the winery. On small parcels it's going to look like a mini Las Vegas to me it will anyway.

1543
02:12:11,590 --> 02:12:19,210
way. And I think we need to rethink this out before we agree to this. You know, there's

1544
02:12:19,210 --> 02:12:24,890
going to be a lot of, you know, construction vehicles and we go up winery road and it's

1545
02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:32,290
not getting any better because of the trucks going up and down it, the road issues, surface

1546
02:12:32,290 --> 02:12:40,850
damage. You know, and here again, I'm thinking about the aquifier, you know, the water situation

1547
02:12:40,850 --> 02:12:45,390
I know you mentioned that Ron, you know, it's just bewildered me.

1548
02:12:45,470 --> 02:12:52,510
I think we need to do more research less homes and maybe one or two at the most.

1549
02:12:52,690 --> 02:12:57,130
You know, I really think this strategically on this phone.

1550
02:12:58,770 --> 02:12:59,190
Thank you.

1551
02:12:59,550 --> 02:13:00,230
Thank you, sir.

1552
02:13:00,850 --> 02:13:01,650
Come on down, Susie.

1553
02:13:06,290 --> 02:13:15,030
Susie Hurts, H-E-R-T-Z, Mr. Bergram was right on spot and I think some of this information

1554
02:13:15,030 --> 02:13:21,470
need to come out here because of the people who are sitting in this audience who didn't read the backup and don't know the history.

1555
02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:32,730
I attended the RPC meeting where this was voted upon, and there were dozens of people speaking against this project for a variety of very logical reasons.

1556
02:13:33,310 --> 02:13:43,450
I also read the backup for this item today, and there are dozens and dozens of no responses from the residents

1557
02:13:43,450 --> 02:13:47,670
within the immediate area of this project.

1558
02:13:48,710 --> 02:13:54,030
So there are lots of knows, even though the RPC passed it.

1559
02:13:54,170 --> 02:13:55,630
They only passed it four to two.

1560
02:13:55,870 --> 02:14:00,590
So it was not a conclusive super enthusiastic response.

1561
02:14:01,390 --> 02:14:04,250
And I think a lot of that is because of the push that comes

1562
02:14:04,250 --> 02:14:05,530
from the planning department.

1563
02:14:06,290 --> 02:14:10,710
And once again, I'm going to say that I think that there's too much

1564
02:14:10,710 --> 02:14:14,030
that happens in the planning department that then gets

1565
02:14:14,030 --> 02:14:16,550
foisted upon the RPC and then you,

1566
02:14:16,790 --> 02:14:19,110
and you have little to say about it,

1567
02:14:19,230 --> 02:14:20,950
or you do say little about it.

1568
02:14:22,850 --> 02:14:25,890
298 homes on quarter acre lots or less

1569
02:14:26,630 --> 02:14:29,890
is going to be every housing development that you see

1570
02:14:29,890 --> 02:14:32,310
in Las Vegas when you drive in on Blue Diamond.

1571
02:14:33,150 --> 02:14:37,450
Little box houses, three stories tall inches apart

1572
02:14:37,450 --> 02:14:38,270
from each other.

1573
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:39,690
That is not peromp.

1574
02:14:39,690 --> 02:14:42,390
We don't have the infrastructure for it.

1575
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:48,050
The application does not include there doing anything about the schools,

1576
02:14:48,810 --> 02:14:54,090
fire, and police, and neither has anybody in the county spoken to that.

1577
02:14:54,510 --> 02:14:59,110
We don't have infrastructure for that for 198 homes,

1578
02:14:59,110 --> 02:14:59,750
equally.

1579
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:15,960
Meeting, at least 400 new residents, likely 600 or 800 residents or 1000 residents, and the cars to go with it. Thanks. So, no, please. Yes, chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak and spoil your name for the record.

1580
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:31,520
Hi, my name is Dawn Murphy, and you are PHY. And I have a twofold problem up here. I live up in the vineyards right next to the plan subdivision or whatever it's going to be.

1581
02:15:33,780 --> 02:15:35,960
and I don't want that in my neighborhood.

1582
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:37,280
That's too many houses.

1583
02:15:38,180 --> 02:15:40,580
189 houses is too many.

1584
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:43,040
We already have too many subdivisions going in

1585
02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:44,220
with these small little locks.

1586
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:48,600
I really don't want this to continue to go on.

1587
02:15:50,540 --> 02:15:54,140
Also, you do realize that one of the roads

1588
02:15:54,140 --> 02:15:56,720
that goes up against is called industrial road.

1589
02:15:56,760 --> 02:15:58,120
We have gravel pits over there.

1590
02:15:58,260 --> 02:15:59,500
And I own gravel pits over there.

1591
02:15:59,880 --> 02:16:01,400
I own a gravel pit over there.

1592
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:07,520
I don't own I own yards over there. So when they get this in are they're going to start giving me a

1593
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:13,320
problem because now, you know, they move next to my business. They I didn't move next to theirs.

1594
02:16:13,620 --> 02:16:21,060
You know, those businesses have been up there for years. So I am thoroughly opposed for all the

1595
02:16:21,060 --> 02:16:25,280
reasons everybody else has stated, including my own. Thank you so much. Have a nice day.

1596
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:27,360
Thank you, Don. Come on up, Tammy.

1597
02:16:32,580 --> 02:16:34,460
Tammy Pittman, P-I-T-M again.

1598
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,740
So, yes, I live in the winery.

1599
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:40,920
And the winery is currently zone for two homes per acre.

1600
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:47,000
There are some homes in the vineyard that receive permission for a quarter-acre lots,

1601
02:16:47,240 --> 02:16:49,340
but predominantly it's all half-acre lots.

1602
02:16:50,380 --> 02:16:53,140
Perump has high density developments in the south end of town.

1603
02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:58,060
And if we have to have them, which I'm not a fan of, they need to stay there.

1604
02:16:58,600 --> 02:17:03,980
people move to Perump to own a house that is not cheek-by-jowl with their neighbors,

1605
02:17:04,460 --> 02:17:13,120
and they move here to Perump to have a home. They also want 360-degree stunning views that we have.

1606
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:17,860
The Las Vegas style hand your neighbor a cup of sugar out the window needs to stay in Vegas.

1607
02:17:20,420 --> 02:17:25,940
They're planning for down to a 16th of an acre lot with zero lot lines.

1608
02:17:25,940 --> 02:17:40,420
I already know anyone whose property is on the lower winery or on Parsons Road will no longer enjoy our stunning sunsets and will lose their privacy as people are peering over their back fence into their backyards.

1609
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:46,200
These are front yards depending if you're down winery.

1610
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:50,960
The three-story homes, excuse me, their property values are also going to plummet.

1611
02:17:51,340 --> 02:17:58,380
It's common knowledge that our basin is already severely over-allocated, and the proposed

1612
02:17:58,380 --> 02:18:02,120
density would put eight times the water usage been currently allocated.

1613
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:03,940
That's unconscionable.

1614
02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:07,420
We already have two minutes.

1615
02:18:07,680 --> 02:18:11,120
The owner of this property does not have, live here, and does not experience the effects

1616
02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:13,320
of this urban blight in the midst of our town.

1617
02:18:13,320 --> 02:18:19,300
The motivations for anyone championing this project should be examined closely, please vote no.

1618
02:18:21,370 --> 02:18:23,210
Perfect timing, thank you, come on down the way

1619
02:18:29,160 --> 02:18:31,740
up, up, there you go.

1620
02:18:32,060 --> 02:18:40,260
White Lilli, LIO, LY, I was at the planning board meeting when this room was packed with people from the winery objecting to this development.

1621
02:18:41,360 --> 02:18:49,280
And I guess I'm just not understanding, my wife and I moved here, this is going on 24 years to a rural town.

1622
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:55,820
and it was laid out with master plans and master plans have been redone and now we

1623
02:18:55,820 --> 02:19:02,520
seem to be tearing the master plan up. One development at a time bring again high

1624
02:19:02,520 --> 02:19:09,260
density housing into a rural town, which is by its very nature would be larger

1625
02:19:09,260 --> 02:19:15,080
lots. Now this is affecting the people up in up in the winery district but it's

1626
02:19:15,080 --> 02:19:21,060
also affecting people driving on home's dead that we'll see another 400-500 cars a day

1627
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:28,800
coming on to 160 in an intersection. It's already screwed up from the gas station. It was built

1628
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:35,820
there on the corner. So there's that issue. They've got the flooding issue. The county and

1629
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:42,020
the town doesn't have the resource to the service, the population it has now, yet it's anticipating

1630
02:19:42,020 --> 02:19:46,860
adding thousands of more people, commissioners, this doesn't make any sense as

1631
02:19:46,860 --> 02:19:51,860
development. I'm not going to speak on another one that's on the agenda, but why

1632
02:19:51,860 --> 02:19:57,360
are we continually having people come to the planning commission, coming to the

1633
02:19:57,360 --> 02:19:59,920
planning planners and getting approved?

1634
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:28,880
Global for density housing, high density housing when we're a rural town with limited resource. We have 12,000 acre feet of confirmed water from the last study with another 3,000 acre feet deeper to the ground that we haven't even explored yet. And yet we keep piling people into this. I still don't understand it. I want you to turn this down. I want you to turn them leaf here and go by the master plan we have right now. Thank you.

1635
02:20:29,560 --> 02:20:32,080
Thank you, come on down in front, please.

1636
02:20:35,790 --> 02:20:41,570
Hi commissioners, Mary, Greenspan, Blackwell, B-L-A-C-K-W-I-L.

1637
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:44,790
I'm just here to speak from my heart today.

1638
02:20:45,290 --> 02:20:50,350
Everyone's giving you such great legal advice and this and that,

1639
02:20:50,530 --> 02:20:54,850
but I moved here 30 years ago and I was in real estate.

1640
02:20:55,690 --> 02:20:58,610
When I first started selling out here 30 years ago,

1641
02:20:58,610 --> 02:21:04,230
people were coming to me. They wanted an acre lot. They wanted horse property.

1642
02:21:04,730 --> 02:21:10,650
And that's the way it was for many years. And then that people were happy when the

1643
02:21:10,650 --> 02:21:15,430
half acre homes came in because an acre is too big for some people.

1644
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:21,590
And then we were so thrilled when mountain falls started developing. It gave

1645
02:21:21,590 --> 02:21:27,010
the people that wanted that type of living area, a place to live.

1646
02:21:27,010 --> 02:21:34,590
and everybody was happy. And all the 30 years that I was working here sold hundreds and

1647
02:21:34,590 --> 02:21:40,930
hundreds of properties and homes. I never once had anybody come and say, oh, I'd like

1648
02:21:40,930 --> 02:21:46,890
to live in a little box that's right next door where I don't if I sneeze, somebody's

1649
02:21:46,890 --> 02:21:53,110
going to hear me. That's not why any of us moved here to Perump. We love this place, the

1650
02:21:53,110 --> 02:21:57,790
the way it is. And I understand development. I understand progress. I'm not against it.

1651
02:21:58,190 --> 02:22:21,790
But please, you guys are the stewards of this valley. Would you just please think twice before you, you know, make this a place that I got to go down to Vegas and look at that ugly, those ugly homes as I'm going down blue diamond. We don't, I don't want to look out my window and see that. And I don't think you do either. Thank you. Please vote no.

1652
02:22:21,790 --> 02:22:24,150
No, thank you, Sam, anybody on the phone please.

1653
02:22:32,310 --> 02:22:32,710
No chair.

1654
02:22:33,570 --> 02:22:35,110
I heard that close public comment.

1655
02:22:35,850 --> 02:22:40,630
All right, commissioners, questions for the folks, any folks?

1656
02:22:43,180 --> 02:22:43,940
There is-

1657
02:22:43,940 --> 02:22:44,440
The chairman there.

1658
02:22:44,700 --> 02:22:45,420
Oh, sorry, go ahead.

1659
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:50,480
You meet my gal, if you like it, it's up to you.

1660
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,520
Mr. Chairman, do you want me to speak?

1661
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:54,360
Yeah, go ahead, sir.

1662
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:56,420
I'm, thank you, thank you, Mr. Chair.

1663
02:22:58,060 --> 02:22:59,100
This is my district.

1664
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:13,320
So I obviously know more about this than some of their developments going on or one thing I want to point out is a strange thing that happens here with property discussions and I want everyone to be aware of this.

1665
02:23:13,840 --> 02:23:20,200
I've heard the same people talking about property rights and saying, do whatever we want with your land, it's your land.

1666
02:23:21,260 --> 02:23:23,280
I want to see you do whatever you want with your land.

1667
02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:28,340
And then they speak on something like this, and they say, well, no, you can't, you can't

1668
02:23:28,340 --> 02:23:28,800
do this.

1669
02:23:29,260 --> 02:23:29,700
All right.

1670
02:23:30,580 --> 02:23:34,280
And I'm just warning that if we run around telling people do whatever we want with your

1671
02:23:34,280 --> 02:23:38,300
property, this would catch up not just to these people, but to us as a government, if we take

1672
02:23:38,300 --> 02:23:44,200
a position of this, no water for developments like this, but yes, water, if you want to put,

1673
02:23:44,420 --> 02:23:51,260
you know, 300 tiny homes in a one acre lot, using consistent at best, it does raise concerns about equal protection.

1674
02:23:51,260 --> 02:23:59,960
And I just want people to think about that, some people who I'm not admonishing anyone, I'm just saying be be aware of that because it's an inconsistent position and it could be legally potentially dangerous.

1675
02:24:00,140 --> 02:24:03,500
If we as a county hold that position, it's okay for you to speak on it.

1676
02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:09,400
But it's just something that I want to point out my objection here is is pretty simple.

1677
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:15,480
I do not like the density being proposed here the addition of homes here right now, which are two separate issues.

1678
02:24:16,140 --> 02:24:20,540
and there are three things that I wanted to discuss about this.

1679
02:24:21,420 --> 02:24:22,140
One is traffic.

1680
02:24:24,980 --> 02:24:27,380
I don't, I know Commissioner Gibor is from Massachusetts.

1681
02:24:27,780 --> 02:24:31,280
I know people should go out there and root nine in Massachusetts.

1682
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:34,400
I watched as well as he built up and made it built up in those towns.

1683
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:36,960
root nine is kind of just a road almost.

1684
02:24:37,260 --> 02:24:39,280
I'll actually almost exactly like 160.

1685
02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:42,360
And it just got worse and worse and worse.

1686
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:45,140
And I have memories 25 years ago sitting in traffic.

1687
02:24:45,140 --> 02:24:48,160
And you go, you know, half a mile and 20 minutes.

1688
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:54,720
Chicago the same thing from I Chicago people 34 for those of you in those western suburbs. I lived there for a short period.

1689
02:24:55,180 --> 02:24:59,500
And you see it's just a natural occurrence when you start dumping housing in places that.

1690
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,840
May not necessarily before that kind of housing, but exceptions are made or plans were bad. My concern, it's not even about my district here. It's about the traffic on that corner, that corner on homestead 160 could potentially be very, very bad, especially people are going to Parsons. And I know that there's another access that they want through the little area for the people in court. I don't know a lot of that, but if you're going to go up to Parsons to access

1691
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:34,660
this. It's going to just dump all of this traffic in that area. It will back up on the street,

1692
02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:39,040
probably in both directions. And then we have that disaster across the street with the people

1693
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,740
all turning around illegally, because they want to be able to go for the gas station, the pot store,

1694
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:46,840
or wherever they're going. Lieutenant Cleanser promised me he wouldn't retire until he fixed that

1695
02:25:46,840 --> 02:25:51,980
light. He retired anyway. He's still mad about the light. I'm sure out there somewhere. The light,

1696
02:25:52,180 --> 02:25:57,040
we have been able to fix for a couple of years now. It's just if we can't fix a light, I just don't

1697
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:02,060
know if we can be trusted as a government to do this. I think we really let our people down.

1698
02:26:03,500 --> 02:26:08,520
So that's the traffic part of it. The infrastructure part of it. It are the eroding roads.

1699
02:26:09,620 --> 02:26:13,900
You know, we all passed a million dollars a road repair and you never guess it because money

1700
02:26:13,900 --> 02:26:18,100
wasn't spent here can lear later. The plan as we found out was to give the money back.

1701
02:26:19,300 --> 02:26:23,980
I use that story and I get a laugh every single time from somebody who's I'm meeting with.

1702
02:26:23,980 --> 02:26:26,480
But that's the reality here.

1703
02:26:27,220 --> 02:26:28,820
That's the reality here in my account.

1704
02:26:29,580 --> 02:26:37,680
The infrastructure is not catch up with this kind of densely packed development or any

1705
02:26:37,680 --> 02:26:39,040
development right now in that area.

1706
02:26:39,620 --> 02:26:40,580
It's not conducive to that.

1707
02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:45,460
The roads infrastructure, I guess they go hand in hand.

1708
02:26:45,840 --> 02:26:53,140
My objection is not a water engineer, I'm not a scientist, I'm a deterrent schooled science.

1709
02:26:53,140 --> 02:27:16,840
And so I'm not going to pretend to know anything about water and that's out of our jurisdiction as the DA will tell you is the water zone by the state so we can object on those grounds and it's fine, but my objection is just it makes no sense to put this here and the density of it makes no sense it will affect every single traveler who goes down there, not just people in my neighborhood or people in my district, and that is why I post this thank you Mr. Chairman.

1710
02:27:17,660 --> 02:27:20,760
Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to speak up to your commission.

1711
02:27:20,980 --> 02:27:21,620
Mr. Strickland, please.

1712
02:27:22,020 --> 02:27:22,220
Sure.

1713
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:22,900
Thank you.

1714
02:27:23,340 --> 02:27:23,700
Thank you.

1715
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:25,660
Thank you, Chair.

1716
02:27:25,780 --> 02:27:27,900
I was just going to ask about the flooding.

1717
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:32,040
I see that there's been some measures within this subdivision to address flooding.

1718
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:34,800
And I was wondering what you foresee here.

1719
02:27:35,000 --> 02:27:37,940
It's hard to see when you look at it online.

1720
02:27:38,460 --> 02:27:41,720
And if the people have even seen that particular measures because

1721
02:27:42,180 --> 02:27:44,880
Winder Road's been a challenge for a long time.

1722
02:27:44,880 --> 02:27:51,560
And I just think it's nice for once someone's coming forward with some ideas for flooding, not saying I'm support the project.

1723
02:27:52,020 --> 02:27:53,640
I would just like to hear about that, please.

1724
02:28:01,540 --> 02:28:03,960
Thank you, Commissioner Strickle. I didn't know if we would have an opportunity to speak.

1725
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:07,500
I'm glad we did. I would like to address that concern along with several others.

1726
02:28:07,900 --> 02:28:14,920
Tim Sutton, SUTT, T-T-O-N, with Sutton Law and Consulting Group here on behalf of the property owners, Scott Sheldon.

1727
02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:24,240
So, as Kihanna mentioned, this is a 190-home subdivision plan for 80 acres.

1728
02:28:24,700 --> 02:28:30,420
And I guess I'm a little perplexed on all of the comments on regarding density.

1729
02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:38,800
The neighboring winery subdivision contains 100 homes on 40 acres.

1730
02:28:39,180 --> 02:28:41,700
We're proposing 200 homes on 200 acres.

1731
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:47,040
If we wanted to develop under the existing zoning right now, we could build 163 of those

1732
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:50,520
homes without any approvals at all, other than a development agreement.

1733
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:52,820
Development agreement was mentioned previously.

1734
02:28:53,300 --> 02:29:01,280
If you notice in your backup, I believe it was Mr. Hunter, who mentioned the need for development

1735
02:29:01,280 --> 02:29:01,600
agreement.

1736
02:29:01,740 --> 02:29:02,520
That's absolutely true.

1737
02:29:02,940 --> 02:29:04,080
We do need a development agreement.

1738
02:29:04,280 --> 02:29:09,380
That's a condition of approval should the board choose to approve this subdivision.

1739
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:17,340
The U asked about the flood control, as has been mentioned by several people, flooding

1740
02:29:17,340 --> 02:29:23,980
is a significant concern in this area, which is why the developer chose to put significant

1741
02:29:23,980 --> 02:29:33,180
flooding prevention in the form of retention basins, slash open space property there.

1742
02:29:33,180 --> 02:29:44,720
So, under the Under-Night County Code, the current requirement for this level of subdivision would be 1.14 acres of open space.

1743
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:50,180
The developer is putting in 20 acres, that's 25% of the acres, that's unprecedented.

1744
02:29:51,860 --> 02:29:57,300
So, there's quite a significant bit of real estate being committed to address flooding concerns that have been raised.

1745
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:28,880
As far as the other traffic, as far as the traffic concerns that have been raised, yes, of course, if you have more people, that's going to create some traffic concerns. However, baked into our development and approval process is public works review, which addresses all those things. There's impact fees that need to be paid in order to address those, whether it's whitening the road, creating more ingress and egress, adding more layers of compaction onto the roads. I mean, that's all baked into our process.

1746
02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:36,540
along with the impact fees for roads that would be required to be paid upon approval of the development agreement.

1747
02:30:37,880 --> 02:30:50,780
One of the things I wanted to note that came over from the RPC was that there were concerns raised about only having one single story rather than multi story housing homes being built.

1748
02:30:51,180 --> 02:30:56,900
That was something that the developer conceded to at the RPC level and was made contingent on the approval.

1749
02:30:56,900 --> 02:30:58,660
people just wanted to bring that forward.

1750
02:30:59,420 --> 02:31:03,540
Other than that, commissioners, people are making it sound like we're building mountain

1751
02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:05,260
falls right next to the winery, and that's not the case.

1752
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:07,020
We're building the winery right next to the winery.

1753
02:31:08,120 --> 02:31:11,740
If you look at the map there, if you click on any of the lots to the right, I think there's

1754
02:31:11,740 --> 02:31:16,860
a couple along the road that are half acre locks, but other than that, they're smaller than

1755
02:31:16,860 --> 02:31:18,580
the lots that are being proposed.

1756
02:31:18,740 --> 02:31:19,900
Now, there are VR8 lots.

1757
02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:25,680
The lot size is 8,500 square feet on average for those lots.

1758
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:28,180
We're proposing 10,000 square foot lots on minimum.

1759
02:31:28,820 --> 02:31:33,820
So the representations that you've heard that this is increasing density in terms of the area,

1760
02:31:33,820 --> 02:31:38,340
at least not to the east, where the winery subdivision exists, it's simply not true.

1761
02:31:38,900 --> 02:31:42,760
So if there aren't any other questions, I'll sit down.

1762
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:43,700
If I may continue, Chair.

1763
02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:44,120
Sure.

1764
02:31:44,580 --> 02:31:47,120
So we're doing a comparative to the vineyards.

1765
02:31:47,700 --> 02:31:50,880
The vineyards itself is the one that has the smaller lots.

1766
02:31:52,440 --> 02:31:57,800
And I believe you just stated, Mr. Sutton, that you have the ability with the current

1767
02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:03,780
zoning to do 163 homes, and this would be 198 homes.

1768
02:32:04,240 --> 02:32:05,020
Did I get that right?

1769
02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:05,780
That's correct.

1770
02:32:06,220 --> 02:32:13,900
Okay, so that being correct, you're adding 35 homes, but putting in flood control, that

1771
02:32:13,900 --> 02:32:18,120
you wouldn't have to do if you just built the homes, because you don't need, and the development

1772
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:26,660
agreement could also talk about traffic. So I don't know much, but I do know that having

1773
02:32:26,660 --> 02:32:31,900
the flood control would be exquisite. I'm very concerned about that area. We all have

1774
02:32:31,900 --> 02:32:40,740
been for a long time. That's the only thing I don't know, Commissioner. This is your district,

1775
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:46,380
Mr. Bain. And that being your district, have you considered the differentiation between

1776
02:32:46,380 --> 02:32:53,480
the current approved homes that could go in versus this subdivision and not having any flood control.

1777
02:32:54,580 --> 02:32:58,340
In law, we have this thing called leading the witness that I put into my head.

1778
02:32:59,140 --> 02:33:04,860
Do you like that? I, unfortunately, cannot object under these circumstances, but

1779
02:33:05,560 --> 02:33:08,620
anyway, as an attorney, you're not an attorney to look that up. I'm going to get a candle up.

1780
02:33:08,700 --> 02:33:14,940
Thank you, later. I've considered everything. I mean, the reality is if you compare it to

1781
02:33:15,580 --> 02:33:18,980
something that's more dense, it's not dense, but the request is to change the

1782
02:33:18,980 --> 02:33:24,480
zone to allow more homes than are there now. That's a fact. I mean, we can

1783
02:33:24,480 --> 02:33:28,160
debate it if you want, but I'm at the debate has ended with that statement for

1784
02:33:28,160 --> 02:33:32,620
me. Perfect. I have considered all of it. As far as the traffic, it does not change

1785
02:33:32,620 --> 02:33:35,220
things with the traffic. It's going to increase traffic. It's going to increase

1786
02:33:35,220 --> 02:33:39,340
strain. And again, I would say that if any women in the state of Nevada can fix

1787
02:33:39,340 --> 02:33:44,620
that light that's we've been asking to fix for two years now. And maybe then we

1788
02:33:44,620 --> 02:33:48,420
We can bring this back up for a vote, because if we can't even get a second added on to

1789
02:33:48,420 --> 02:33:52,240
that light and no one can figure it out, and I've talked to all seven endot people that

1790
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:58,580
apparently are six endot people that handle this place, then I can't even think about adding

1791
02:33:58,580 --> 02:33:58,760
this.

1792
02:33:58,920 --> 02:34:02,060
And if we can't figure out how to spend a million dollars on rotor pair that sits there in

1793
02:34:02,060 --> 02:34:08,560
rot somewhere and the plan is to give it back, I don't know how we can possibly do something

1794
02:34:08,560 --> 02:34:09,220
like this here.

1795
02:34:09,220 --> 02:34:16,280
This makes no sense, maybe if I can get answer to those, I'd be amenable to looking to this further, as it now still have no.

1796
02:34:16,540 --> 02:34:16,820
Thank you.

1797
02:34:17,360 --> 02:34:18,420
I appreciate that.

1798
02:34:18,580 --> 02:34:19,660
Thank you, Chair, or just-

1799
02:34:19,660 --> 02:34:20,100
Thank you.

1800
02:34:20,300 --> 02:34:25,160
Love having the conversation and seeing what the other commissioners feel and what they see.

1801
02:34:25,860 --> 02:34:29,220
And it's a rewarding job because of that.

1802
02:34:29,460 --> 02:34:29,880
Thank you, sir.

1803
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:30,540
Thank you.

1804
02:34:30,660 --> 02:34:32,340
And now we're going to hear from Commissioner Gabor.

1805
02:34:33,640 --> 02:34:34,500
Thank you, Chair.

1806
02:34:35,140 --> 02:34:36,200
Thank you, commissioners.

1807
02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:48,220
I thought at one point Mr. Sutton jumped up and cut us all off, but appreciate the clarification and I'd like to give some clarification as well.

1808
02:34:48,940 --> 02:34:59,880
Commissioner Bain is correct originally from Born and Raised, educated in Massachusetts, Route 9, as in Route 128, which

1809
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:27,060
We've no longer exist, now it's 95. Those were old, those were old horse and cattle routes, a different route, and well, they actually is a different route. It all goes west now. It goes west. Yes, route nine goes west to the western part and leads into New York. So, anyway, to clarify something else is that is that what I've said time and time again is is when people have their own land.

1810
02:35:27,060 --> 02:35:33,200
And they comply with what they're wanting to do, who are we?

1811
02:35:33,320 --> 02:35:35,840
We are not the landsards to tell them no.

1812
02:35:36,340 --> 02:35:39,740
So we have to be able to compare apples to apples.

1813
02:35:40,780 --> 02:35:46,500
And this is an apple to an orange at this point of what's written in here in the back up in

1814
02:35:46,500 --> 02:35:53,540
on the agenda, because they're asking us to change, they're asking us to change something

1815
02:35:54,380 --> 02:35:56,180
that they're already zoned for.

1816
02:35:56,180 --> 02:36:01,380
And yes, they're able to move forward with 163 homes.

1817
02:36:01,960 --> 02:36:04,660
If this is rejected, I get it.

1818
02:36:04,780 --> 02:36:07,300
But we do have to keep things into perspective.

1819
02:36:09,700 --> 02:36:23,180
Mr. Sutton mentioned in Gus Egrats, layers and helping to correct any of what is that that's winery road going back and forth.

1820
02:36:23,180 --> 02:36:35,320
So, is there a plan because I didn't see it, you can help me here, is there a plan for additional ingress egress to this development besides winery road?

1821
02:36:36,700 --> 02:36:42,520
First question, when do you plan on commencing if this is approved?

1822
02:36:44,910 --> 02:36:46,170
Thank you, Commissioner Gabor.

1823
02:36:46,430 --> 02:36:52,030
Yes, that would be addressed during the tentative map stage or the final map stage by public works.

1824
02:36:52,210 --> 02:36:52,610
They'd come in.

1825
02:36:53,390 --> 02:36:57,670
I believe a traffic study has already been conducted on this parcel.

1826
02:36:58,370 --> 02:37:03,830
And so I think they found that Winery Road plus a road, and I apologize.

1827
02:37:04,370 --> 02:37:10,470
Parsons Road would be the one that would address the ingress and egress of the subdivision.

1828
02:37:11,720 --> 02:37:16,720
Where does Parsons Road exit on to?

1829
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:25,940
Industrial Commissioner.

1830
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:38,480
So it will go through and as one of the commenters spoke and said that they have, it's not just one but there's a few pits that are up there.

1831
02:37:38,660 --> 02:37:47,480
So Parsons Road, so this will be a well-traveled area for not only commercial but also residential traffic.

1832
02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:49,720
If this was improved, approved.

1833
02:37:50,780 --> 02:37:51,260
Yes?

1834
02:37:52,520 --> 02:37:53,300
Yes, Commissioner.

1835
02:37:54,760 --> 02:38:00,960
Okay, and then the other question, please, Mr. Sutton, is if this was to be approved, when do you plan on building?

1836
02:38:04,930 --> 02:38:10,130
I believe there was a requirement to get the development agreement passed within a year.

1837
02:38:11,090 --> 02:38:16,890
I believe Mr. Sheldon's on the phone, I don't know exactly when the proposed phasing is supposed to happen.

1838
02:38:17,890 --> 02:38:25,010
Okay, so the plan is, the plan is to actually build and not to flip this property.

1839
02:38:27,940 --> 02:38:36,620
I don't know if Mr. Sheldon's plan to flip the property or not, but that's not uncommon in the development world to have somebody get the entitlements for a particular piece of property and then develop it.

1840
02:38:38,440 --> 02:38:41,860
I understand Mr. Sutton, I appreciate your candidness.

1841
02:38:42,360 --> 02:38:46,600
I suppose I'm going to be considered, I'm leading the witness.

1842
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:54,080
You just can't do it for friendly, that's how the rule works.

1843
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:55,020
Oh, I'm not being hurried.

1844
02:38:55,240 --> 02:38:55,560
Still at all.

1845
02:38:56,060 --> 02:38:57,600
I'm not being, we're all friends here.

1846
02:38:57,940 --> 02:38:59,200
Yeah, we're trying to make things happen.

1847
02:38:59,800 --> 02:39:08,400
So, you know, something that I read in the back up that really concerns me is 21 acres of

1848
02:39:08,400 --> 02:39:15,900
this project, if it was to move forward, 21 acres is proposed to be retention basins

1849
02:39:17,700 --> 02:39:19,480
and parking areas.

1850
02:39:20,280 --> 02:39:21,180
Is that right?

1851
02:39:21,800 --> 02:39:22,160
That's correct.

1852
02:39:23,420 --> 02:39:23,560
Yes.

1853
02:39:24,200 --> 02:39:25,920
So retention basin.

1854
02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:32,780
I mean, the visual that I got, and by the way, I do visit the different properties,

1855
02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:38,440
things that to the best of my ability when I'm back and forth and all over the county.

1856
02:39:39,380 --> 02:39:45,640
But the visual that came to mind is the horrific and tragic events that occurred

1857
02:39:45,640 --> 02:39:52,640
heard on and at death Valley when we had all of these people in death Valley and all of

1858
02:39:52,640 --> 02:39:58,860
a sudden the torrential rains and the floods came down and they're still missing and my

1859
02:39:58,860 --> 02:39:59,960
condolences to.

1860
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:01,260
There are families and friends.

1861
02:40:05,200 --> 02:40:18,760
We're proposing to have a retention basin up on top of, in the middle of the fan, with a park area for people to go and enjoy. And then, and then at the snap, at the snap of a whip, there could be torrential rains.

1862
02:40:23,630 --> 02:40:33,810
Is this a possibility of, of, of a potential catastrophic area being created?

1863
02:40:36,460 --> 02:40:38,080
I guess I don't understand any questions.

1864
02:40:38,080 --> 02:40:47,940
I guess I don't understand, are you concerned that this, that the retention basin would somehow create a hazard?

1865
02:40:48,840 --> 02:40:50,840
Or correct, correct.

1866
02:40:53,570 --> 02:41:01,350
I mean, if the retention basin is going to capture any water that's coming down off the fan into that area,

1867
02:41:01,710 --> 02:41:08,250
why would we put a park there and place people in danger, potentially in danger?

1868
02:41:08,250 --> 02:41:09,150
For

1869
02:41:12,320 --> 02:41:16,240
sure, Jibor, we've got Bernard, the engineer here, who would like to address your concern.

1870
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:17,860
Thank you.

1871
02:41:19,200 --> 02:41:25,440
My name is Bernardo Zaneen, Z-A-N-I-N, and I am a civil engineer design.

1872
02:41:26,540 --> 02:41:31,140
We have been working for a long time with a drainage study on this one.

1873
02:41:32,140 --> 02:41:38,680
And the detention basin is going to contain the water and let it flow slowly,

1874
02:41:38,680 --> 02:41:44,800
So it doesn't go the way it's doing already on the winery.

1875
02:41:45,340 --> 02:41:50,120
So we're going to keep and let it flow in a slow pattern.

1876
02:41:51,880 --> 02:41:56,760
And the detention basin is going to be about five feet deep

1877
02:41:57,110 --> 02:41:59,480
by the volume that we calculated.

1878
02:42:01,170 --> 02:42:04,140
And we've one to three slopes on the sides.

1879
02:42:04,140 --> 02:42:09,320
So it's not, it won't be any hazard for the people over there.

1880
02:42:10,600 --> 02:42:20,560
And there will be, of course, signalling about the flood area, so it is addressed on the

1881
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:21,240
civil side.

1882
02:42:24,670 --> 02:42:27,110
Thank you, Mr. Bergso.

1883
02:42:28,030 --> 02:42:29,810
I respectfully disagree.

1884
02:42:30,130 --> 02:42:35,890
I am not an engineer, but I disagree with living in and corrupt, and in the perump valley,

1885
02:42:35,890 --> 02:42:40,010
and in Lake County for many, many years and seeing what

1886
02:42:40,010 --> 02:42:43,930
torrential rains can do and what it does do within seconds,

1887
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:45,910
within seconds.

1888
02:42:48,320 --> 02:42:52,800
But I appreciate you clarifying.

1889
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:56,240
Obviously, you've addressed it because it's a concern.

1890
02:42:58,600 --> 02:43:05,340
Yes, we really want a real big drainage study.

1891
02:43:05,540 --> 02:43:09,400
There is the property to the north of us

1892
02:43:09,400 --> 02:43:12,820
that we are currently using as a reference as well

1893
02:43:13,340 --> 02:43:15,640
and a few other on homestead.

1894
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:20,360
So we do have analyzed a lot of flows from the Wheeler Wash

1895
02:43:21,180 --> 02:43:25,460
and we are addressing the best as possible.

1896
02:43:28,860 --> 02:43:29,780
Thank you, thank you.

1897
02:43:30,160 --> 02:43:30,840
Thank you, sir.

1898
02:43:31,020 --> 02:43:33,680
A commissioner Bain would like me to make a clarification for you

1899
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:34,660
on something you asked.

1900
02:43:34,980 --> 02:43:36,980
It's about your time, just for a reason.

1901
02:43:37,380 --> 02:43:38,460
You would ask about the access.

1902
02:43:38,660 --> 02:43:40,360
And I understand the access is on Parsons

1903
02:43:40,360 --> 02:43:45,200
and I understand people don't memorize everyone else's neighborhood I get it that's why we have different districts we represent.

1904
02:43:45,740 --> 02:43:55,400
But the idea that someone's going to be accessing on Parsons and go around in a big circle to go anywhere and then go to 160 is pretty ridiculous.

1905
02:43:55,600 --> 02:43:59,140
They're going to obviously go right down the winery and go barreling down winery.

1906
02:43:59,140 --> 02:44:03,700
So I actually want to make that point is if we're saying no one's going to go down industrial trust me

1907
02:44:03,700 --> 02:44:08,760
I'm going to go down industrial I was going to go all the way around two miles around and then go back and on the other side

1908
02:44:08,760 --> 02:44:14,420
They're going to go right down Parsons, and I know I know it's intended to do and they may even put a little bump out to suggest

1909
02:44:14,420 --> 02:44:21,980
But that they go not not the shortest distance, but we all know if you want to drive down your break and sit there for five minutes in the corner of homestead

1910
02:44:21,980 --> 02:44:26,940
116 tell me how many people you see taking you turns around that ridiculous thing that they put in the road

1911
02:44:27,600 --> 02:44:37,860
you have your answer, so we cannot tell people what to do, especially in Perum, they're going to do the opposite if they want to, so we cannot direct them not to go right down barreling down wiring. That is my concern. Thank you.

1912
02:44:38,400 --> 02:44:47,680
Thank you, Commissioner Bain. No, I certainly appreciate that because, and I know exactly exactly where you're talking about.

1913
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:54,540
I understand the proposed ingress egress, the additional proposed ingress egress, which

1914
02:44:54,540 --> 02:44:59,920
is wonderful because it does have to do with safety and you're up.

1915
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:25,020
Absolutely right. Why would somebody drive all the way around, unless they see the traffic lined up, backed up, whether they're going to work, they're going to school, they're going on a pleasure, pleasure trip for the day. But I'm going to turn it back over to you, Chair. I think I'm satisfied with the questions, answers, public comments, et cetera. Thank you, Commissioner. Mr. Colony, you got anything?

1916
02:45:27,120 --> 02:45:30,580
I don't really have anything to add except that

1917
02:45:30,580 --> 02:45:39,400
I think Mr. Sutton you said you're going to put 200 homes on 200 acres that's not on 200 acres.

1918
02:45:39,620 --> 02:45:40,740
It's 98 acres.

1919
02:45:42,200 --> 02:45:44,240
Actually, 80 acres, I apologize.

1920
02:45:44,720 --> 02:45:45,480
That's what I meant to say.

1921
02:45:45,660 --> 02:45:46,820
We'll just leave it to the person.

1922
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:48,100
Yeah, thank you.

1923
02:45:48,100 --> 02:45:52,260
It was a winery has 100 homes on 40 acres.

1924
02:45:52,280 --> 02:45:54,380
This is 200 homes on 80 acres.

1925
02:45:54,720 --> 02:45:54,860
Right.

1926
02:45:55,500 --> 02:45:56,960
Thank you for that clarification.

1927
02:45:57,440 --> 02:45:59,700
So that's still smaller.

1928
02:45:59,700 --> 02:46:09,810
Okay, that's all I had, just smaller than the current vineyard lawns, because I think they're, but still well you're putting

1929
02:46:13,720 --> 02:46:20,140
198 homes on 80 acres around that 78.9 rounder up to 80

1930
02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:26,940
So it's still less than half an acre. Right. When you go anything for us?

1931
02:46:28,160 --> 02:46:29,280
Wait, not a motion.

1932
02:46:34,670 --> 02:46:35,550
Anybody gonna make a motion?

1933
02:46:52,270 --> 02:46:54,470
Is anybody going to make a motion on this?

1934
02:46:54,590 --> 02:46:56,650
He and his or Commissioner Bane is your district,

1935
02:46:56,670 --> 02:46:58,450
whether it's an approval vote of a motion.

1936
02:46:58,550 --> 02:47:02,550
It's on page six of six in your backup if you want to read it.

1937
02:47:03,270 --> 02:47:04,010
No, thank you.

1938
02:47:07,020 --> 02:47:07,580
All right.

1939
02:47:10,340 --> 02:47:13,040
This item does not ask for lack of a motion.

1940
02:47:14,440 --> 02:47:15,900
Which means it can come back.

1941
02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:21,200
Thank you, commissioners.

1942
02:47:21,460 --> 02:47:22,100
Thank you, guys.

1943
02:47:24,680 --> 02:47:25,500
Eight please.

1944
02:47:26,460 --> 02:47:29,100
Let's see if we can speed it up.

1945
02:47:30,460 --> 02:47:36,400
Item 8, 10am dined item for possible action, public hearing discussion and deliberation

1946
02:47:37,020 --> 02:47:47,320
on WV-26-28, a waiver of NCC 16.20.160 for building setback requirements at the property

1947
02:47:47,320 --> 02:48:06,600
be located at 108 and 126 South Prospect, Tonipada, Nevada, Sustard's parcel number 008-142-01 and 008-142-02, Bradley DeBoer Trust, Property Owner, Kevin Hasku, Applicant Agent.

1948
02:48:07,500 --> 02:48:12,640
Okay, thank you for that. All right guys, please be quiet so we can hear Keona.

1949
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:15,160
Thank you.

1950
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:20,580
Yana, Medici, QIA, MED, ICI, Principal Planner and I County Planning.

1951
02:48:21,320 --> 02:48:27,700
The applicant is requesting a waiver from I County Code 162160C, as existing structures

1952
02:48:27,700 --> 02:48:32,300
are already located within the setback area identified by the code, and requiring strict

1953
02:48:32,300 --> 02:48:36,680
compliance with the current setback standards would create an unnecessary hardship while providing

1954
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:38,580
little or no additional public benefit.

1955
02:48:38,580 --> 02:48:44,820
But the property owner has submitted a land division map LD 2016 purpose of this parcel

1956
02:48:44,820 --> 02:48:49,700
map is to move the existing property line between the two parcels to create a more practical

1957
02:48:49,700 --> 02:48:52,780
plot layout and improve the future resell value of properties.

1958
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:56,860
No new parcels are being created as part of this request.

1959
02:48:57,560 --> 02:49:01,660
The adjustment only changes the location of a common boundary between the existing parcels.

1960
02:49:02,180 --> 02:49:05,840
The revised boundary will result in parcels that are more functional, easier to market and

1961
02:49:05,840 --> 02:49:08,560
better suited for future ownership and use.

1962
02:49:09,580 --> 02:49:10,120
Thank you for that.

1963
02:49:10,300 --> 02:49:11,820
All right, let's start with public comment.

1964
02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:14,300
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

1965
02:49:18,350 --> 02:49:18,630
No chair.

1966
02:49:19,410 --> 02:49:20,230
Come on down, Beth.

1967
02:49:24,070 --> 02:49:28,230
Beth Bore-Sevich, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

1968
02:49:28,870 --> 02:49:32,490
I did not personally go there, but I did do Google Maps.

1969
02:49:33,370 --> 02:49:35,430
And I also did Google Earth.

1970
02:49:36,170 --> 02:49:38,350
There is a mobile home there.

1971
02:49:38,730 --> 02:49:40,490
There's a utility shed.

1972
02:49:40,490 --> 02:49:48,070
There's a demolished home and some other buildings there that can be easily moved.

1973
02:49:48,730 --> 02:49:54,230
I'm not sure that we need to give them a setback.

1974
02:49:54,750 --> 02:49:56,310
I'm not sure this should pass.

1975
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:59,970
It's the whole area is kind of...

1976
02:50:01,170 --> 02:50:30,790
Oh, I don't even know how to put it. It's just everything seems to be demolished except for the mobile home and the shed. So I'm not sure why they're asking for a setback. They need to clean up the land first before they can determine what they're going to do. They just want to sell the property it looks like. I understand that. However, it should be cleaned up before any determination is made about this. Thank you. Thank you.

1977
02:50:30,790 --> 02:50:32,210
So, Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

1978
02:50:36,290 --> 02:50:36,590
No chair.

1979
02:50:36,950 --> 02:50:38,550
Any close public comment, commissioners?

1980
02:50:39,870 --> 02:50:40,750
Lots of questions?

1981
02:50:45,900 --> 02:50:50,400
I have no questions, Chair, I too know the street and the property.

1982
02:50:51,480 --> 02:50:59,060
The last commenter is correct, the whole street looks different, especially from Google Earth,

1983
02:51:00,240 --> 02:51:05,080
from above, versus on the street, but at the same time, this is a formality.

1984
02:51:06,860 --> 02:51:12,840
and I will motion to approve second we have a motion a second I'm going to call for

1985
02:51:12,840 --> 02:51:13,140
the vote.

1986
02:51:13,680 --> 02:51:13,800
Aye.

1987
02:51:14,120 --> 02:51:14,240
Aye.

1988
02:51:15,140 --> 02:51:16,060
The board is aye.

1989
02:51:16,240 --> 02:51:16,360
Aye.

1990
02:51:16,900 --> 02:51:17,420
I'll skip a tie.

1991
02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:18,260
That carries 5-0.

1992
02:51:18,320 --> 02:51:19,420
Thank you.

1993
02:51:23,310 --> 02:51:30,980
If we can do a few more real quick let's do consent 11 please do

1994
02:51:40,420 --> 02:51:41,200
you have to read them.

1995
02:51:43,880 --> 02:51:46,020
Item 11 consent agenda items.

1996
02:51:46,560 --> 02:51:48,880
These are items that staff recommend for approval.

1997
02:51:48,880 --> 02:52:02,880
The board reserves the right to move any consent agenda item to the regular segment of the agenda should issues arise that need to be addressed discussion of any item from the consent agenda items that needs review before a decision is made.

1998
02:52:03,380 --> 02:52:18,460
This will be item 11.1 11.2 11.3 B only 11.4 A B and C 11.5 A B and C 11.6 A B and C

1999
02:52:19,340 --> 02:52:31,520
11.7 A, B, and C 11.8 A, B, and C 11.9 A and B and 11.10 A, B, and C.

2000
02:52:33,340 --> 02:52:34,200
Okay, thank you for that.

2001
02:52:34,360 --> 02:52:37,160
So I'm going to open a public comment right now on any one of those items.

2002
02:52:37,440 --> 02:52:38,660
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone?

2003
02:52:43,220 --> 02:52:44,740
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted.

2004
02:52:45,060 --> 02:52:46,760
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2005
02:52:49,730 --> 02:52:50,050
Oh, yes.

2006
02:52:53,110 --> 02:52:58,250
I saw grid alliance on here, and I enlarged it, now I lost it.

2007
02:52:59,870 --> 02:53:05,730
I'm not quite sure why grid alliance is asking for anything.

2008
02:53:06,550 --> 02:53:07,910
That was actually pulled.

2009
02:53:10,150 --> 02:53:12,090
Sorry, just be, go ahead.

2010
02:53:12,090 --> 02:53:13,150
Oh,

2011
02:53:15,470 --> 02:53:24,450
anyway, if it's got to do with solar farms out there, I don't think anybody is in

2012
02:53:24,450 --> 02:53:28,990
favor of them getting approved for any changes or any amount of money.

2013
02:53:29,510 --> 02:53:36,170
If they're on this, I can't find it, but I'll wait and listen and see what happens with

2014
02:53:36,170 --> 02:53:36,350
this.

2015
02:53:36,530 --> 02:53:36,890
Thank you.

2016
02:53:36,890 --> 02:53:40,050
Thank you. Come on down, Mr. Pittman.

2017
02:53:43,800 --> 02:53:47,160
Stephen Pittman, PIT, MN 116.

2018
02:53:47,720 --> 02:53:48,260
Can I go there?

2019
02:53:48,860 --> 02:53:49,160
Yep.

2020
02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:54,440
116 is an Office of Traffic Safety,

2021
02:53:54,620 --> 02:53:55,680
and I kind of sure as officer,

2022
02:53:55,900 --> 02:53:59,100
in Paramount Enforcement Grant Award for $30,000.

2023
02:53:59,660 --> 02:54:02,320
There's an in-kind match of $7,500.

2024
02:54:03,540 --> 02:54:05,140
Where are we going to find that money?

2025
02:54:06,100 --> 02:54:15,060
and 11.7 same thing for traffic safety joining forces grant award and we have to

2026
02:54:15,060 --> 02:54:26,480
come up with a match of 11.5 and 11.8 an in-kind match of $11,250 in the

2027
02:54:26,480 --> 02:54:42,120
The positive side, 1110, the chief has wants to put up two large towers with sirens on them to warn of disaster.

2028
02:54:43,080 --> 02:54:44,280
And that's a good thing.

2029
02:54:44,600 --> 02:54:47,360
But the rest with these in-kind matches, that's a lot of money.

2030
02:54:47,860 --> 02:54:48,680
Where do we get that?

2031
02:54:48,880 --> 02:54:49,380
Thank you, sir.

2032
02:54:49,780 --> 02:54:50,240
Thank you.

2033
02:54:50,480 --> 02:54:51,600
Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

2034
02:54:54,230 --> 02:54:54,870
Yes, chair.

2035
02:54:54,930 --> 02:54:55,850
The caller is unmuted.

2036
02:54:56,070 --> 02:54:57,690
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

2037
02:55:01,840 --> 02:55:22,240
Well, commissioners, Michael Davis, or G-A-R-C-I-A. And I just want to let it be known for the record. The reason why we're not used in the clock is because nobody knows how to reprogram it. Two minutes. Thank you all. That's really not true. Come on down. Miss Jackson.

2038
02:55:25,100 --> 02:55:33,080
Angelina Jackson, J-A-C, K-S-O-N. So it seems like there's a lot of issues. Grant, you know, jam packed into into into one here, which is.

2039
02:55:34,480 --> 02:55:43,740
kind of, you know, unclear for a lot of issues here. One is with a grid alliance. I have

2040
02:55:43,740 --> 02:55:49,800
a friend that lives over off a factory road and grid alliance without notifying her, nobody

2041
02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:54,460
notified her prior to this in August of last year. They are over there and they are when

2042
02:55:54,460 --> 02:55:59,500
they spray the ground, all right, to keep the dust from going. I have pictures where the

2043
02:55:59,500 --> 02:56:04,320
whole side of her house and her yard and everything gets wet. They are out there at three,

2044
02:56:04,460 --> 02:56:09,620
four in the morning with flood lights in her window and diesel trucks running all night.

2045
02:56:10,500 --> 02:56:19,750
Nobody ever warned her of this. So given them things like this where it's it's it doesn't

2046
02:56:19,750 --> 02:56:22,990
give enough information and like I said, I don't understand why so many issues are packed

2047
02:56:22,990 --> 02:56:28,870
into one because nothing is very clear. And neither are the you know when they prepare

2048
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:33,130
the issue to go on the agenda. There's nothing on there that's clear on anything

2049
02:56:33,130 --> 02:56:40,290
either. So that's kind of, you know, I don't understand why it's like that. We can't,

2050
02:56:40,390 --> 02:56:44,670
it's too many issues on one for anybody to comment on, especially within two minutes.

2051
02:56:45,410 --> 02:56:50,710
But for the grid alliance, go out there and see where she's at, where her house is, and

2052
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:56,410
where they're put, they just put down the, the slabs for the towers to go up. It's literally

2053
02:56:56,410 --> 02:57:02,550
really like for me to you. And she's the only house that it's affecting because she's

2054
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:07,470
that far out. But nobody's notified her. The environmental issues that's going on with

2055
02:57:07,470 --> 02:57:12,890
this because where they have the barrier for the overflow of water, it's nothing. I mean,

2056
02:57:12,970 --> 02:57:18,670
there's nothing standing there anymore. There is nothing being protected. The barrier from

2057
02:57:18,670 --> 02:57:24,670
her retainer wall is literally this far. I have pictures and videos of it to show you. And

2058
02:57:24,670 --> 02:57:35,630
And this is why I mentioned earlier about, it seems to be a thing where, you know, the residents are being notified or to say something about it.

2059
02:57:36,170 --> 02:57:39,590
Something needs to be done with this, so I say no on all of it.

2060
02:57:39,790 --> 02:57:40,130
Thank you.

2061
02:57:40,790 --> 02:57:41,270
Come on now, Linda.

2062
02:57:46,470 --> 02:57:48,730
Linda Clark's LARK, I just want clarification.

2063
02:57:49,830 --> 02:57:54,490
Ron, did you say number 11, you were going to hold a side for something?

2064
02:57:55,830 --> 02:58:02,830
No, it was 11.3 A. We took it off.

2065
02:58:03,410 --> 02:58:04,530
3.8?

2066
02:58:05,270 --> 02:58:06,830
Yeah, that's the one I have a question about.

2067
02:58:07,810 --> 02:58:09,770
Yeah, that one's been pulled.

2068
02:58:10,150 --> 02:58:12,110
Linda, it'll come back on another agenda.

2069
02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:13,230
I hope so.

2070
02:58:13,270 --> 02:58:14,130
It was a typo in there.

2071
02:58:14,210 --> 02:58:14,610
Thank you.

2072
02:58:14,930 --> 02:58:16,110
Thank you.

2073
02:58:16,590 --> 02:58:17,910
Come on down, Deborah.

2074
02:58:23,180 --> 02:58:26,520
Deborah Thomas, THOMAS.

2075
02:58:26,520 --> 02:58:28,900
Yes, Greta

2076
02:58:32,170 --> 02:58:44,150
Alliance has lost lawsuits in at least three states and multiple countries.

2077
02:58:45,180 --> 02:58:51,730
I would not want them to do anything here because most of it was over contamination.

2078
02:58:52,590 --> 02:58:53,430
Thank you.

2079
02:58:56,900 --> 02:58:57,360
Thank you.

2080
02:58:58,660 --> 02:59:00,940
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

2081
02:59:01,780 --> 02:59:02,120
No chair.

2082
02:59:02,120 --> 02:59:05,160
We're going to close public and we'll listen to Chair.

2083
02:59:05,960 --> 02:59:07,240
Can I clear something up?

2084
02:59:08,160 --> 02:59:14,260
The grid line item that you guys are voting on is a road remediation agreement for

2085
02:59:14,260 --> 02:59:21,480
the SUP that you guys approved quite some time ago for the upgrade to their transmission line.

2086
02:59:21,980 --> 02:59:23,360
We're not approving a project.

2087
02:59:23,760 --> 02:59:28,100
You're approving an agreement so we can get a road fixed if they damage them.

2088
02:59:32,800 --> 02:59:39,580
I just want to clarify that sounds like what you just said, this is just an agreement so that we would have some kind of recourse in the event that our roads are damaged.

2089
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:51,280
I know there's a lot of confusion here. I don't blame anyone on this particular one. I don't want to be out of time. But I have driven up there and talked to these people up there doing the stuff they're doing and the vast and to do certain things and they've done certain things.

2090
02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:55,180
It's, it's, it's about, it was approved before I got here and it's approved.

2091
02:59:55,380 --> 02:59:59,960
It is what it is, but as far as this is concerned, all this would do is.

2092
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,940
Just give us the ability to have an agreement and case things get destroyed. So that's, I just want to be clear about that for everyone. Thank you for the clarification. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I just wanted to respond to Mr. Pitman's comment or question. Each of the joining forces or traffic safety grants that in kind match for each of these items is being met by the fuel costs.

2093
03:00:29,940 --> 03:00:32,660
We're in terror of the vehicle, the maintenance of the vehicle.

2094
03:00:32,940 --> 03:00:36,400
So we're not actually having to put out any money to them.

2095
03:00:37,380 --> 03:00:38,760
This is a wash.

2096
03:00:40,980 --> 03:00:41,580
Thank you.

2097
03:00:41,980 --> 03:00:42,320
Thank you, sir.

2098
03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:43,820
Okay.

2099
03:00:44,920 --> 03:00:46,240
Excuse me, Chair.

2100
03:00:46,460 --> 03:00:46,740
Go ahead.

2101
03:00:46,740 --> 03:00:47,280
Where's the sheriff?

2102
03:00:47,860 --> 03:00:48,880
Let me show you your board.

2103
03:00:49,060 --> 03:00:49,260
Thank you.

2104
03:00:49,380 --> 03:00:49,620
Sheriff.

2105
03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:50,400
Oh, Joe.

2106
03:00:51,480 --> 03:00:58,020
Before you walk away, that wasn't the only one that was unclear.

2107
03:00:58,020 --> 03:01:08,320
and if you could, I mean 11.6, 11.7, 11.8, these are all being funded from 103, 4.0 grants,

2108
03:01:09,160 --> 03:01:19,760
as well as the fire chief's item 11.10 funding from 103, 4.0 grants. So could you help

2109
03:01:19,760 --> 03:01:26,220
clarify those as well, Sheriff, to satisfy the questions from the public, please?

2110
03:01:29,880 --> 03:01:41,080
If I can, as I understand it is that the money is given to the county from the state, and the invoices are billed from that.

2111
03:01:43,440 --> 03:01:45,320
So, does that answer your question?

2112
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:54,260
And the end kind is met the same way as well.

2113
03:01:54,260 --> 03:01:55,200
Any end kind is also.

2114
03:01:55,200 --> 03:01:57,040
Same way that you mentioned for the other one.

2115
03:01:58,860 --> 03:02:00,020
Thank you, Sheriff.

2116
03:02:04,420 --> 03:02:04,900
Thank you, Commissioner.

2117
03:02:05,400 --> 03:02:07,820
Is somebody speaking to you, Sheriff?

2118
03:02:07,820 --> 03:02:20,680
No. Oh, you are. No, I see you looking over to the left. Are you looking on screen? Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

2119
03:02:22,460 --> 03:02:24,860
Just anxiously awaiting your next question.

2120
03:02:25,600 --> 03:02:32,560
No, I'm satisfied, Sheriff. Thank you. I just wanted you to clarify. That's all. Thank you.

2121
03:02:32,560 --> 03:02:37,040
Chair, if they're satisfied, I'd like to make a motion to approve all consent items as written.

2122
03:02:37,220 --> 03:02:40,020
That's been perfect, motion and a second, I'm going to call for the vote.

2123
03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:40,580
Aye.

2124
03:02:41,720 --> 03:02:42,660
Mr. Bois, aye.

2125
03:02:43,160 --> 03:02:43,280
Aye.

2126
03:02:44,300 --> 03:02:45,000
Oscar, aye.

2127
03:02:45,080 --> 03:02:45,760
That's five, zero.

2128
03:02:45,940 --> 03:02:46,320
Thank you.

2129
03:02:46,520 --> 03:02:47,540
19, please.

2130
03:02:55,180 --> 03:03:04,140
Item 19 for possible action, discussion and deliberation regarding proclamation number P2026 that's

2131
03:03:04,140 --> 03:03:09,120
0-6 declaring September 2026, service dog month and nightcammy.

2132
03:03:10,080 --> 03:03:10,880
Thank you for that.

2133
03:03:12,260 --> 03:03:13,800
All right, who's presenting on this?

2134
03:03:14,020 --> 03:03:16,140
I saw her earlier, I thought.

2135
03:03:16,420 --> 03:03:18,080
Sure, this is a public petitioner item.

2136
03:03:18,360 --> 03:03:20,920
If the petitioner is on the phone, they'll need to press star 9

2137
03:03:20,920 --> 03:03:22,420
to raise their hand to be unmuted.

2138
03:03:22,920 --> 03:03:25,880
If they are unavailable, we can just proceed.

2139
03:03:25,880 --> 03:03:27,180
It's pretty self-explanatory.

2140
03:03:30,760 --> 03:03:33,680
Okay, let's open up public comment on this guy and see if there's anybody

2141
03:03:33,680 --> 03:03:34,440
the ones to speak.

2142
03:03:40,750 --> 03:03:45,770
19. All right, closing public comment. Motion to approve is written.

2143
03:03:46,730 --> 03:03:49,430
7 per seconds. Motion two seconds, all those in favor.

2144
03:03:49,690 --> 03:03:52,030
Aye. Aye. Aye.

2145
03:03:52,470 --> 03:03:57,270
Oscar, 5, 0, thank you very much. All right, so we're going to do 20 and then we're going

2146
03:03:57,270 --> 03:04:04,390
to break for lunch. And Paul, what? No, what? Do him after?

2147
03:04:04,390 --> 03:04:06,610
yeah okay okay

2148
03:04:08,720 --> 03:04:15,260
that's okay let's hold on sir yeah

2149
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:25,680
all right let's break let's

2150
03:04:25,680 --> 03:04:26,940
Let's be back at 2.30.

2151
03:05:13,620 --> 03:05:14,900
They'll be joining shortly.

2152
03:05:17,960 --> 03:05:23,000
Paul, don't be mad at me, but I, I have to bump you. I know.

2153
03:05:25,260 --> 03:05:25,740
I'm sorry.

2154
03:05:28,780 --> 03:05:36,140
We're doing nine. We have to do nine. Sure. You just leave it right there.

2155
03:05:41,330 --> 03:05:42,530
All right,

2156
03:05:47,490 --> 03:05:48,650
Commissioner's up north or back.

2157
03:05:48,750 --> 03:05:49,790
Lorena, are you with us?

2158
03:05:51,450 --> 03:05:51,990
I'm here.

2159
03:05:52,410 --> 03:05:52,750
Thank you.

2160
03:05:52,830 --> 03:05:53,850
May I do nine, please?

2161
03:05:55,830 --> 03:05:57,090
Or you do nine, please?

2162
03:05:58,690 --> 03:05:58,850
Yes.

2163
03:05:59,870 --> 03:06:01,010
May I have nine, please?

2164
03:06:02,960 --> 03:06:05,560
Item nine, 10 o'clock a.m. for possible action.

2165
03:06:05,740 --> 03:06:07,820
Public hearing, discussion, and deliberation

2166
03:06:07,820 --> 03:06:11,500
to a declared two, four, six, one, self-malored avenue,

2167
03:06:11,700 --> 03:06:14,340
prompt Nevada, a public nuisance consisting of an unsafe,

2168
03:06:14,920 --> 03:06:17,540
unhealthful condition, which poses a public health

2169
03:06:17,540 --> 03:06:23,260
and safety hazard. B, if declared a public nuisance establish a reasonable time for any

2170
03:06:23,260 --> 03:06:27,020
alternative who is the property owner to repair, abate or remove the public nuisance.

2171
03:06:27,300 --> 03:06:32,460
C, if the public nuisance is not abated within the time period designated direct staff to utilize

2172
03:06:32,460 --> 03:06:37,840
the abatement procedures to abate the hazard by removing or causing the removal of the hazardous

2173
03:06:37,840 --> 03:06:44,220
conditions. D, establish a funding source to pay for the abatement. E, apply a special assessment

2174
03:06:44,220 --> 03:06:47,260
against the real property in the amount of the total cost of the abatement.

2175
03:06:47,640 --> 03:06:54,040
Assessor's parcel number 04249304, location 2461 South Mallard Avenue,

2176
03:06:54,220 --> 03:06:57,120
prop Nevada, property owner, Annie Elterner.

2177
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:05,820
Hey, Brian, DA.

2178
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:10,340
Do we need, do we need to swear anyone in?

2179
03:07:10,500 --> 03:07:11,120
Do we need to script?

2180
03:07:11,340 --> 03:07:11,820
Do we need anything?

2181
03:07:12,520 --> 03:07:14,460
I gave you the script last time.

2182
03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:16,200
I didn't make any new ones.

2183
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:27,680
So shall we open another item another item while we do it and we'll find the script please can we get a script please from staff for me not last fact

2184
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:29,160
I'm going to turn this over to Bruce

2185
03:07:31,820 --> 03:07:35,000
Chairman jubber for the roads number 10, please

2186
03:07:35,680 --> 03:07:37,500
We'll continue nine item 10

2187
03:07:38,380 --> 03:07:46,060
Item 10 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding the general road report by the public works director on general road maintenance

2188
03:07:46,200 --> 03:07:50,760
Scrabble Road Maintenance, asphalt patching, weed, mowing and direction regarding public

2189
03:07:50,760 --> 03:07:51,600
works projects.

2190
03:07:53,220 --> 03:07:54,360
Thank you, Lorena.

2191
03:07:55,490 --> 03:07:57,020
Is Bo or Tom?

2192
03:07:57,720 --> 03:07:59,180
Oh, is Bo is with us, sir.

2193
03:08:00,500 --> 03:08:01,880
Bo, please proceed.

2194
03:08:04,250 --> 03:08:05,330
Okay, good afternoon, everybody.

2195
03:08:06,050 --> 03:08:09,070
Bo got GOTTT, Assistant Public Works Director.

2196
03:08:10,530 --> 03:08:16,670
Okay, so Nye County Public Works has received 448 maintenance requests since the beginning

2197
03:08:16,670 --> 03:08:25,010
of this year. So far 287 of those have been completed. 57 were not relative, leaving 104

2198
03:08:25,010 --> 03:08:33,310
unresolved. Most requests continue to be for potholes with a slide-up rise in mowing

2199
03:08:33,310 --> 03:08:38,830
requests over the past month. Patching crews continue to be out daily and the moors have been

2200
03:08:38,830 --> 03:08:44,310
focusing on areas around the schools, clear the ditches for the students that are walking to school.

2201
03:08:48,600 --> 03:08:55,140
Last week, the travel crew completed just over five miles of scrub seal in Tonipa, which

2202
03:08:55,140 --> 03:08:59,860
will complete all of the chip and scrub seals outside of the prompt area for the year.

2203
03:09:00,800 --> 03:09:06,040
Over the next two weeks, the crew will finish up with the three and a half miles of chip

2204
03:09:06,040 --> 03:09:11,600
roads left on the list for this year, bringing the total of roads completed in prompt at

2205
03:09:11,600 --> 03:09:16,880
23 miles, excuse me, and for just over 32 miles throughout the county.

2206
03:09:16,880 --> 03:09:22,500
The crew will continue scrub sealing some major asphalt roads in Peramp with some extensive

2207
03:09:22,500 --> 03:09:31,680
work on sections of Black, Basin, Wilson, Gamerd, East and West and Honey Suckle streets throughout

2208
03:09:31,680 --> 03:09:32,480
the month of September.

2209
03:09:35,780 --> 03:09:42,880
Recently, outlying areas around Tonipon-Bady have been hit with some flood activity over the

2210
03:09:42,880 --> 03:09:49,040
This month, crews will be working on repairs and gravel road maintenance to bring the roads back up to normal status.

2211
03:09:52,550 --> 03:09:59,750
Just one more thing I want to go over regarding the addition of some latch funds.

2212
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:01,060
That were received.

2213
03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:14,460
We currently have spent $761,582.90. That's as of today. There may be a few invoices that haven't been processed yet.

2214
03:10:15,220 --> 03:10:24,580
I'm leaving us with 238,480, 238,417 dollars and 10 cents left.

2215
03:10:27,780 --> 03:10:28,820
I'm open for any questions.

2216
03:10:31,220 --> 03:10:31,980
Thank you, Bo.

2217
03:10:33,480 --> 03:10:38,300
Commissioners, do you have any questions for the Assistant Director before I open it up for public comment?

2218
03:10:39,080 --> 03:10:40,060
I have none, sir.

2219
03:10:40,960 --> 03:10:41,500
I have nothing.

2220
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:42,040
Thank you.

2221
03:10:42,420 --> 03:10:42,760
Thank you.

2222
03:10:43,980 --> 03:10:44,540
Thank you.

2223
03:10:44,540 --> 03:10:46,540
Let me open this up for public comment, please.

2224
03:10:51,290 --> 03:10:52,670
Anybody on the phone, please, Sam.

2225
03:10:53,470 --> 03:10:53,910
Public comment.

2226
03:10:53,910 --> 03:10:54,330
Yes, chair.

2227
03:10:54,350 --> 03:10:54,610
Public comment.

2228
03:10:55,090 --> 03:10:55,950
Item number 10.

2229
03:10:57,190 --> 03:10:57,810
Yes, chair.

2230
03:10:57,870 --> 03:10:58,730
The caller is unmuted.

2231
03:10:58,950 --> 03:11:00,470
Please speak and phone your name for the record.

2232
03:11:04,890 --> 03:11:06,210
I was calling on nine.

2233
03:11:09,130 --> 03:11:10,010
Thank you.

2234
03:11:10,970 --> 03:11:13,370
We will get back to nine in just a few minutes.

2235
03:11:14,430 --> 03:11:15,930
We're on number 10 right now.

2236
03:11:16,410 --> 03:11:17,530
I was in Rhodes commission.

2237
03:11:18,430 --> 03:11:19,970
Anybody else on the phone, please, Sam?

2238
03:11:20,190 --> 03:11:21,490
We don't have anybody in chambers.

2239
03:11:22,810 --> 03:11:23,370
Yes, chair.

2240
03:11:32,280 --> 03:11:55,200
I'm glad you mentioned mowing where the students walk, it came up in a conversation on Facebook last week on Barney, kids walk from all the way up close to Basin, down to Barney and prospector to catch the bus and those side.

2241
03:11:55,200 --> 03:12:03,040
weeds are really high. They're really bad. So maybe they can check out over there

2242
03:12:03,040 --> 03:12:06,780
where these kids walk so they're not walking in the street. Thank you.

2243
03:12:08,450 --> 03:12:14,230
Thank you Amy for that. That's very important. Anybody else on the phone please?

2244
03:12:15,230 --> 03:12:18,790
Yes chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2245
03:12:26,280 --> 03:12:28,060
I can hear you Michael.

2246
03:12:28,420 --> 03:12:29,820
Thank you.

2247
03:12:30,780 --> 03:12:32,780
Thank you from Don't Fall.

2248
03:12:33,720 --> 03:12:38,260
Anyhow I just want to, uh, for the record make it be known when, uh, good intentions go

2249
03:12:38,260 --> 03:12:45,820
above and beyond their, uh, hey wages and, uh, to cover up or, uh, help alleviate the

2250
03:12:45,820 --> 03:12:47,400
strain from your negative mark.

2251
03:12:48,480 --> 03:12:51,860
So, uh, let's show a little appreciation when we do this side.

2252
03:12:51,860 --> 03:12:52,520
Thank you.

2253
03:12:53,520 --> 03:12:54,240
Thank you.

2254
03:12:55,800 --> 03:12:57,580
Anybody else on the phone, please have.

2255
03:12:58,140 --> 03:12:58,440
No chair.

2256
03:12:59,460 --> 03:13:00,120
Thank you.

2257
03:13:01,520 --> 03:13:03,540
I'll close public comment at this time.

2258
03:13:03,680 --> 03:13:06,560
Any other questions for the assistant director Bogot?

2259
03:13:08,700 --> 03:13:09,380
Nothing for me, sir.

2260
03:13:10,780 --> 03:13:12,600
I just want to thank you.

2261
03:13:13,240 --> 03:13:14,360
Go ahead, Commissioner Coney.

2262
03:13:14,940 --> 03:13:16,400
I was just going to say nothing here.

2263
03:13:16,480 --> 03:13:17,980
He looks too comfortable sitting there.

2264
03:13:18,700 --> 03:13:19,800
He's very comfortable.

2265
03:13:19,800 --> 03:13:21,760
Well, yeah, they're comfortable seats.

2266
03:13:23,160 --> 03:13:23,600
Chair?

2267
03:13:23,880 --> 03:13:25,420
Well, I just want to thank you again.

2268
03:13:25,720 --> 03:13:26,820
Go ahead, commissioners.

2269
03:13:26,920 --> 03:13:30,720
We are slow with our getting back to you with that lag.

2270
03:13:30,720 --> 03:13:31,700
Aren't we, Chair?

2271
03:13:31,940 --> 03:13:32,400
Thank you.

2272
03:13:32,600 --> 03:13:33,260
It is.

2273
03:13:33,480 --> 03:13:34,680
We don't need second lag.

2274
03:13:35,200 --> 03:13:36,360
You're so used to it.

2275
03:13:36,980 --> 03:13:39,540
I just want to say thank you for moving forward

2276
03:13:39,540 --> 03:13:44,300
with spending the million dollars and having a little over $238,000 left.

2277
03:13:44,980 --> 03:13:46,760
I'm sure by next month that will be all gone.

2278
03:13:47,160 --> 03:13:47,980
Thank you very much.

2279
03:13:48,320 --> 03:13:48,820
Thank you, Chair.

2280
03:13:48,820 --> 03:13:53,410
Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Bain. Did you have anything?

2281
03:13:54,330 --> 03:14:00,150
So, so Bow speaking of which of course we want you to utilize this money in the most

2282
03:14:00,150 --> 03:14:06,730
efficient way possible. So there's there's the tangible the visual for the people as they're

2283
03:14:06,730 --> 03:14:12,890
driving over what they once knew as potholes etc. As you say the majority of calls come in

2284
03:14:12,890 --> 03:14:19,170
and concerns are over potholes. So throughout the county I'm sure that it is. I know that

2285
03:14:19,170 --> 03:14:24,730
it's appreciative. And also, I want to thank you and your team. You were up here during

2286
03:14:24,730 --> 03:14:31,870
the scrub and chip seal program for many of the streets here in Tonopan, the area.

2287
03:14:32,690 --> 03:14:44,030
And thank you and the team again because it's very, very noticeable, right? And it's delightful

2288
03:14:44,030 --> 03:14:52,410
to and a pleasure to finally drive on areas that, you know, people try to avoid and go to different side streets, right?

2289
03:14:52,690 --> 03:14:59,250
So you know what I'm trying to thank you for being hands on and being up here during that, during that project. I'm you and your team.

2290
03:15:01,070 --> 03:15:02,490
All right, thank you.

2291
03:15:04,790 --> 03:15:31,710
And next time hopefully you'll have another presentation, a PowerPoint for us. I know the public really enjoyed that because they were able to actually see the different areas of the county that were being addressed by you and your team. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I was really struggling to come up with some material over a month. I think I could probably make it work every like quarterly come up with a presentation.

2292
03:15:32,930 --> 03:15:46,790
You know, road work is pretty extensive, and you know, what you get done in a month doesn't look really good on a presentation, and not many people are going to notice it. It's just very time consuming, and also with being out of town and, and a ton of all.

2293
03:15:47,130 --> 03:15:49,990
Yes, it's made a little difficult for me to put anything together.

2294
03:15:49,990 --> 03:15:59,610
So I understand and not to waste your time my bow. We want it to be meaningful. Doesn't have to be redundant. We don't want it to be redundant.

2295
03:16:00,270 --> 03:16:09,030
So just a verbal report in every quarter. I think that would be acceptable to do a PowerPoint and present a video presentation, whatever you're going to put together.

2296
03:16:09,630 --> 03:16:11,630
Okay. Okay. Thank you for understanding.

2297
03:16:12,410 --> 03:16:14,410
I'll go back to my comfortable spot down there.

2298
03:16:15,430 --> 03:16:19,930
Obviously, I don't like public speaking so much more coming in the seat, but thank you.

2299
03:16:20,030 --> 03:16:20,630
Okay, thank you.

2300
03:16:20,870 --> 03:16:21,830
You're doing a good job.

2301
03:16:21,970 --> 03:16:27,990
Thank you, Director, and I'll turn this back over to the VOCC Chair Ron Boschovich.

2302
03:16:28,650 --> 03:16:29,270
Thank you.

2303
03:16:29,450 --> 03:16:30,650
Thank you very much, Chair.

2304
03:16:30,770 --> 03:16:33,050
And thank you, Bo, and your guys' team as well.

2305
03:16:33,930 --> 03:16:34,850
All right, let's see.

2306
03:16:34,950 --> 03:16:35,570
What are we going to do now?

2307
03:16:38,470 --> 03:16:39,070
Let's bring it.

2308
03:16:39,310 --> 03:16:39,690
Let's do.

2309
03:16:39,950 --> 03:16:40,370
Thank you.

2310
03:16:42,310 --> 03:16:43,190
Oh, hey.

2311
03:16:43,290 --> 03:16:44,010
Nine again.

2312
03:16:45,470 --> 03:16:46,350
Do you have any nature?

2313
03:16:52,760 --> 03:16:56,780
If you throw it, Commissioner Strickman, I'll try to catch it from the screen.

2314
03:16:57,060 --> 03:17:01,620
I told you I would appreciate your view today with something.

2315
03:17:01,900 --> 03:17:02,520
That's a good one.

2316
03:17:03,240 --> 03:17:03,620
I

2317
03:17:05,800 --> 03:17:07,480
always miss his jokes when he's not here.

2318
03:17:09,460 --> 03:17:10,340
All right.

2319
03:17:10,520 --> 03:17:13,020
So once we know they have their scripts, we can move on with number nine.

2320
03:17:17,750 --> 03:17:18,530
It's already been read.

2321
03:17:19,090 --> 03:17:19,290
Okay.

2322
03:17:21,550 --> 03:17:22,530
He's absolutely right.

2323
03:17:22,670 --> 03:17:23,210
It's already been read.

2324
03:17:23,210 --> 03:17:25,170
Okay, here we are back on number nine.

2325
03:17:25,430 --> 03:17:32,450
This is a hearing to show cause to determine if a nuisance exists on property located at 2461 South Mallard Avenue.

2326
03:17:33,430 --> 03:17:39,310
Brump Nevada pursuant to night county code 17.04.860.

2327
03:17:40,400 --> 03:17:44,730
Will the representatives of the planning department please state your full names for the record.

2328
03:17:50,140 --> 03:17:52,420
Rob Hi, H-I-G-H-T.

2329
03:17:53,840 --> 03:17:56,640
Celeste Sanable, S-A-N-D-O-V-A-L.

2330
03:17:56,640 --> 03:17:57,980
Thank you for that.

2331
03:17:58,560 --> 03:18:02,720
Have you reviewed the backup documentation submitted for this agenda item?

2332
03:18:04,870 --> 03:18:05,170
Yes.

2333
03:18:05,970 --> 03:18:15,230
Is the documentation true and accurate documentation of the notices provided to the owner and accurately depict the condition of the subject property?

2334
03:18:16,990 --> 03:18:20,330
The backup isn't completely up to date.

2335
03:18:20,330 --> 03:18:30,070
The RV's are gone, there's still some junk and debris remaining, including a couch, if you want one.

2336
03:18:30,830 --> 03:18:32,270
Well, is it leather?

2337
03:18:33,250 --> 03:18:33,510
No.

2338
03:18:36,610 --> 03:18:40,130
Go, go, go, may need that couch in the back.

2339
03:18:42,860 --> 03:18:47,160
Please summarize the health and safety concerns you observed regarding this property.

2340
03:18:47,660 --> 03:18:48,260
Thank you, Serena.

2341
03:18:49,840 --> 03:18:58,180
There's enough junk and debris that it would probably be a place where pests could be attracted to.

2342
03:18:59,000 --> 03:19:04,400
I think that would be the main health and safety issue with that property at this time.

2343
03:19:06,440 --> 03:19:08,360
Are there any questions from any board member?

2344
03:19:10,470 --> 03:19:10,790
No, sir.

2345
03:19:11,610 --> 03:19:13,630
Yes, go ahead, sir.

2346
03:19:15,210 --> 03:19:22,530
Thank you. Rob Celeste, thank you for being here today and giving us that update that's

2347
03:19:22,530 --> 03:19:32,030
important. I have some questions, please. Revealing the backup, I would like to ask,

2348
03:19:32,130 --> 03:19:41,030
where does the granddaughter reside, please? I believe she resides in Michigan. Okay. Thank

2349
03:19:41,030 --> 03:19:41,210
Thank you.

2350
03:19:41,810 --> 03:19:50,110
And reviewing and in reviewing the backup, it shows that the owner, Mrs. Turner, unfortunately

2351
03:19:50,110 --> 03:19:53,590
passed away sometime in July 2026, is that right?

2352
03:19:53,910 --> 03:19:54,970
That is correct.

2353
03:19:56,090 --> 03:19:56,450
Yes.

2354
03:19:56,710 --> 03:19:56,970
Okay.

2355
03:19:56,970 --> 03:19:58,970
So...

2356
03:20:00,590 --> 03:20:07,930
So again, looking at some of these photos, it's fenced, it's not completely fenced, but it's fenced property.

2357
03:20:10,570 --> 03:20:31,830
I know that you've all done your due diligence. You've posted, you've reposted, you've posted again. Okay, where Mrs. Turner has passed away just last month. Okay, let's be realistic here. It's been just one month.

2358
03:20:31,830 --> 03:20:40,990
I don't think that it's fair that the heir to the property of the granddaughter residing

2359
03:20:40,990 --> 03:20:46,690
in Michigan, or if she was in California, or even here in the state of Nevada, that

2360
03:20:47,370 --> 03:20:53,450
a reasonable time frame is what's been recommended as far as September 14, 2026.

2361
03:20:54,270 --> 03:20:56,590
I just wanted that on the record, please.

2362
03:20:57,830 --> 03:21:06,590
And for you to take that into consideration as we also consider through public comment and the other comments from the commissioners.

2363
03:21:06,590 --> 03:21:15,410
Yeah, the abatement letters were sent before she passed away, so otherwise we might have acted differently.

2364
03:21:16,770 --> 03:21:27,510
No, I'm not criticizing you, or Celeste or the department of who's been involved.

2365
03:21:29,090 --> 03:21:37,750
You had no idea that the owner of the property was going to or was ill or was even going

2366
03:21:37,750 --> 03:21:42,690
to be departing this world just so soon.

2367
03:21:42,690 --> 03:21:50,970
But with this as part of the information and evidence as this being a nuisance, I'm

2368
03:21:50,970 --> 03:21:58,230
going to say and stand behind saying that it's totally unfair that an unreasonable to

2369
03:21:58,230 --> 03:22:06,650
have here as a recommendation of September 14th, 2026, according to our policy, with this

2370
03:22:06,650 --> 03:22:11,990
tearing as a requirement to either deem it or not deem it a nuisance.

2371
03:22:14,350 --> 03:22:16,470
Again, for the record, okay?

2372
03:22:19,820 --> 03:22:21,540
Mr. Chairman, I have a few questions.

2373
03:22:22,360 --> 03:22:22,760
I have a few questions.

2374
03:22:22,760 --> 03:22:22,860
I'm sorry.

2375
03:22:25,900 --> 03:22:28,940
In reading here, I don't know who wrote this, so I'll be delicate.

2376
03:22:29,580 --> 03:22:33,160
Grand Daughter has a notice, Deed upon death, Deed in the property, but it's not recorded.

2377
03:22:34,260 --> 03:22:40,920
I don't know, the Nevada, is the Nevada law such that it's a condition precedent to the execution of Deed upon death to be recorded?

2378
03:22:40,920 --> 03:22:43,700
it doesn't have to be recorded prior to being executed?

2379
03:22:45,520 --> 03:22:46,960
I don't think it has to be recorded.

2380
03:22:47,140 --> 03:22:49,720
I think that's one of the, I don't think you do, I'm sorry.

2381
03:22:50,280 --> 03:22:55,580
I believe that's what I got to see in property law, but I do believe that it has to be executed

2382
03:22:56,440 --> 03:22:59,120
prior to the death or it's not valid.

2383
03:22:59,920 --> 03:23:00,980
So I don't, is that correct?

2384
03:23:01,540 --> 03:23:02,300
So that is correct.

2385
03:23:02,540 --> 03:23:03,540
So that is irrelevant.

2386
03:23:03,760 --> 03:23:05,300
So this person does not own this property.

2387
03:23:06,160 --> 03:23:08,300
That is what we think also.

2388
03:23:09,100 --> 03:23:13,040
Okay, so we can set that aside, unless this is inaccurate, we can set that aside.

2389
03:23:13,120 --> 03:23:14,820
This person you're talking to is on property.

2390
03:23:15,340 --> 03:23:17,380
So has probably been opened, do we know?

2391
03:23:19,900 --> 03:23:25,300
I believe Susan's last conversation with the niece and the brother that it was, they

2392
03:23:25,300 --> 03:23:26,620
were going to be starting the process.

2393
03:23:27,460 --> 03:23:28,740
You're going to be starting the process.

2394
03:23:29,160 --> 03:23:34,120
Was this already abated when it was a house and burned down and there was some kind of problems

2395
03:23:34,120 --> 03:23:35,600
there in the past?

2396
03:23:35,940 --> 03:23:39,280
It was a previous case and I do believe it was a house fire, yes.

2397
03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:46,580
And then so it's already been abated. It's already been on fire. Here it is down here. We go again in this whoever it is coming in there

2398
03:23:47,140 --> 03:23:51,120
So this isn't as if someone's who doesn't own the property. No, it's saying they own the property

2399
03:23:52,840 --> 03:23:55,680
Let's say a time machine if so I'd like to get in and

2400
03:23:56,280 --> 03:24:00,560
Do some of the things I've done in my life. This does not she does not own it

2401
03:24:05,260 --> 03:24:08,320
There is a brother of the deceased that

2402
03:24:08,320 --> 03:24:15,500
But everything would fall to that he is now the one who is willing to take responsibility.

2403
03:24:16,000 --> 03:24:19,760
Well, he doesn't have, he has as much legal responsibility as I do for the product, unless

2404
03:24:19,760 --> 03:24:20,520
the probates open.

2405
03:24:20,780 --> 03:24:23,480
A judge makes a decision, not us, not me, not the DA.

2406
03:24:24,140 --> 03:24:25,260
So that's just not relevant.

2407
03:24:25,620 --> 03:24:29,120
The problem here is that you have a pattern of abuse where people have been coming on to

2408
03:24:29,120 --> 03:24:29,480
property.

2409
03:24:30,100 --> 03:24:36,940
I went out there with tentacles in Augustine, same thing, oh, we own the property, oh,

2410
03:24:36,960 --> 03:24:37,660
we own the property.

2411
03:24:37,660 --> 03:24:43,580
You know, been saying I was out there five times at least talking to people or three to five times talking to you

2412
03:24:43,580 --> 03:24:45,140
There's a pattern of people coming in there

2413
03:24:45,140 --> 03:24:48,080
St. Telling deputies we own the place say get out of here

2414
03:24:48,080 --> 03:24:53,280
We own the place and then here come RVs and then they're burning campfires and one time there are

2415
03:24:53,280 --> 03:24:59,880
Shirts deputies showing up with there's I did not pull the cry forgot to do so I was gonna ask for you to decide and do is there was all

2416
03:25:00,760 --> 03:25:28,860
I know there's 9-1-1 calls there, quite a few 9-1-1 calls, I'm sure there's somebody on the phone who will speak to that so I won't do that. But this is not a surprise situation. Everyone associated with this property, and apparently most people associated with the claim ownership of it, I might as well claim ownership of it myself, and so everyone is aware. There's definitely not a notice. We don't have a due process problem here because seems that everyone in town knows what's going on with this property, including us.

2417
03:25:28,860 --> 03:25:32,280
So I have to just do this for the people who live on that street.

2418
03:25:32,760 --> 03:25:36,440
I already feel bad because, you know, there's some flooding stuff going on and I was pretty

2419
03:25:36,440 --> 03:25:38,020
feel really bad about not being able to fix that.

2420
03:25:38,560 --> 03:25:46,540
But maybe I wouldn't mind hearing from testimony and as far as public comment if we can do that

2421
03:25:46,540 --> 03:25:47,620
Mr. Chairman at some time.

2422
03:25:48,380 --> 03:25:48,560
Soon.

2423
03:25:48,720 --> 03:25:49,020
Thank you.

2424
03:25:49,820 --> 03:25:51,100
We will definitely do that.

2425
03:25:51,500 --> 03:25:52,760
Commissioner, it's on our list here.

2426
03:25:57,730 --> 03:26:00,970
Okay. If the property owners are present, please come forward.

2427
03:26:03,910 --> 03:26:05,110
Is there anyone on the phone

2428
03:26:05,110 --> 03:26:12,450
saying that would be very long? I do have a hand raised. The caller is unmuted. Please

2429
03:26:12,450 --> 03:26:13,870
speak and spell your name for the record.

2430
03:26:17,440 --> 03:26:23,400
Lisa Stodelman, S-T-A-T-T-E-L-M-N. I am a neighbor

2431
03:26:23,400 --> 03:26:28,760
of this property and kind of talking for all the neighbors here. I do have to correct you because

2432
03:26:28,760 --> 03:26:38,260
As Annie Turner died in April of 2024 and was taken from her because she had dementia.

2433
03:26:39,260 --> 03:26:43,880
So the house was burnt down in November of 24.

2434
03:26:44,880 --> 03:26:46,700
So, ma'am, I am sorry.

2435
03:26:47,760 --> 03:26:47,880
I am.

2436
03:26:48,660 --> 03:26:51,780
I believe that this is public comment.

2437
03:26:51,940 --> 03:26:57,120
This is not the owner of the property that's present so I think that we need to ask her to

2438
03:26:57,120 --> 03:26:57,640
call back.

2439
03:26:57,640 --> 03:27:01,520
If you hold tight, ma'am, we will get right back to you, okay?

2440
03:27:06,530 --> 03:27:08,470
There's nobody, there is no one.

2441
03:27:10,260 --> 03:27:10,880
All right.

2442
03:27:11,240 --> 03:27:16,940
The death date, we're working on the family, telling us, you know, when it's turned over past.

2443
03:27:17,380 --> 03:27:18,760
So this is two plus years.

2444
03:27:19,820 --> 03:27:20,060
Okay.

2445
03:27:20,600 --> 03:27:22,360
Any questions from any of the board?

2446
03:27:25,800 --> 03:27:27,500
Let's, I've got one question.

2447
03:27:28,280 --> 03:27:32,420
Is the public administrator involved in this property?

2448
03:27:32,420 --> 03:27:36,820
Susan did contact Ginger and she is not received this property.

2449
03:27:39,150 --> 03:27:40,890
Okay, so we're going to continue on here.

2450
03:27:41,530 --> 03:27:52,690
pursuant to night county code 17.04.860k2, if the property owners fail to appear the commission may proceed with the hearing and take any enforcement action deemed appropriate.

2451
03:27:53,270 --> 03:27:56,730
Now we're going to open public comment and see what we have for that.

2452
03:27:57,590 --> 03:27:59,310
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

2453
03:27:59,310 --> 03:28:00,350
Yes,

2454
03:28:02,440 --> 03:28:05,340
chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in spell your name for the record.

2455
03:28:08,660 --> 03:28:18,980
Okay. Lisa Solomon, STA, TT, ELMAN. I am a neighbor, a new Annie Turner. She was moved away

2456
03:28:18,980 --> 03:28:29,040
in 2023, I believe, or 22. She passed away in April of 24 and people moved into that home

2457
03:28:29,040 --> 03:28:34,040
and burn it down with a mess lab in November of 2024.

2458
03:28:35,000 --> 03:28:38,840
In April of this year, those same people came back

2459
03:28:39,400 --> 03:28:41,840
and opened a homeless encampment.

2460
03:28:42,560 --> 03:28:50,500
And by all vision, it is a drug dealing operation also.

2461
03:28:50,760 --> 03:28:53,540
The traffic, we believe that coming in and out,

2462
03:28:53,880 --> 03:28:56,240
all hours in and out quick,

2463
03:28:57,980 --> 03:29:07,200
even though they removed the RV and the fifth wheel, like the folks said, there's so much trash there and everything, it's ridiculous.

2464
03:29:07,940 --> 03:29:14,280
And they're still dropping off people, a few blocks away, walking in in the middle of the night, walking out.

2465
03:29:14,400 --> 03:29:19,860
We all have cameras on our homes, so we all know this is going on. That's why there's been 9-1-1 calls.

2466
03:29:19,860 --> 03:29:23,240
So we still believe there's drugs going on there.

2467
03:29:24,020 --> 03:29:27,220
It's been terrible for a neighborhood or property values.

2468
03:29:27,460 --> 03:29:30,200
And since the neighbor is this and Annie is deceased,

2469
03:29:31,180 --> 03:29:35,240
I couldn't give ahold of anybody except her son through messenger

2470
03:29:35,860 --> 03:29:40,980
and he never, after he, I told him, he never responded back to me.

2471
03:29:41,720 --> 03:29:45,500
Now the police and the county, I believe, have done everything they can

2472
03:29:45,500 --> 03:29:48,380
and been very, very helpful to all of us.

2473
03:29:48,380 --> 03:29:54,760
I think this property should be abated immediately because I don't want these people coming back a third time.

2474
03:29:55,380 --> 03:29:59,840
Notices have been posted. The fence is not complete and we'd like it complete.

2475
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:28,860
So nobody can go back into that property because her family's in Chicago and they're not involved at all. Never were when she was here either except her grandson who I think promoted all this action. But notices have been posted, you they given another two weeks after the last meeting and we just like thank you very much for that. That was very informative. Come on down.

2476
03:30:29,820 --> 03:30:30,360
Suzy.

2477
03:30:33,120 --> 03:30:39,820
Suzy here, it's H-E-R-T-Z. It's, I would think that it's pretty easy to determine

2478
03:30:39,820 --> 03:30:45,400
when the owner of the property died. It's public record. So how come we don't have that information

2479
03:30:45,400 --> 03:30:53,200
here today? Why are we looking at that whole situation? If that's a relevant issue, that

2480
03:30:53,200 --> 03:30:58,320
should have been researched and determined. You know, you have hearsay from neighbors

2481
03:30:58,320 --> 03:31:10,980
and then what Celeste was saying is maybe from the granddaughter we think we know this, but that's public record, so we need to get our act together. Thank you.

2482
03:31:11,400 --> 03:31:12,900
Thanks, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

2483
03:31:14,580 --> 03:31:18,080
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please begin to spell your name for the record.

2484
03:31:20,260 --> 03:31:21,140
Hello, Commissioner,

2485
03:31:35,060 --> 03:31:37,260
but once again, it goes back to, uh, no

2486
03:31:40,820 --> 03:31:42,160
problem. Notice now that you're,

2487
03:31:42,280 --> 03:31:47,080
you know, if you want to take action, take action, then fill it against this date, but without

2488
03:31:47,080 --> 03:31:51,060
notifying the state, you kind of, uh, put the new process and have

2489
03:31:53,710 --> 03:31:54,950
to marry around here to

2490
03:31:58,090 --> 03:31:58,530
proceed,

2491
03:31:58,770 --> 03:31:59,550
the fifth amendment.

2492
03:32:11,160 --> 03:32:12,660
Thank you. Sam, do we have any other else, please?

2493
03:32:14,820 --> 03:32:16,060
Yes, chair, the caller is

2494
03:32:16,060 --> 03:32:18,320
unmuted. Please speak and explain your name for the record.

2495
03:32:20,980 --> 03:32:23,060
Yeah, say me Nelson. Any else,

2496
03:32:23,060 --> 03:32:28,620
So I'm glad the neighbor called in and explained to you what's been going on.

2497
03:32:29,060 --> 03:32:33,960
I've had a couple of people talk to me and they're really in favor of the

2498
03:32:33,960 --> 03:32:39,720
abatement. And like she said, it's been a blight in the neighborhood and

2499
03:32:39,720 --> 03:32:44,760
actually kind of dangerous for the kinds of people that are attracted there. But

2500
03:32:44,760 --> 03:32:46,640
that's my two cents. Thank you very much.

2501
03:32:48,220 --> 03:32:52,160
Thanks Amy, look down Paul, I'm dying off here.

2502
03:32:53,360 --> 03:32:57,860
All right, need some water, drink, I always tell my boy drinks some water.

2503
03:33:01,710 --> 03:33:08,990
I'd like to say that if due process is brought up multiple times here, we could all consider maybe Paul Lemus,

2504
03:33:09,150 --> 03:33:13,530
LEMUS, if due process is brought up multiple times by the community.

2505
03:33:13,530 --> 03:33:18,410
The problem, one of the inconsistencies with the International Property Maintenance Code and

2506
03:33:18,410 --> 03:33:25,110
why it was repealed from law here in Knight County, was due to the fact that there was no proper due process there.

2507
03:33:25,550 --> 03:33:29,430
And so what you can do, though, is you can maybe form an ad hoc committee,

2508
03:33:29,490 --> 03:33:34,630
would be a suggestion, and then have a committee that does the appeals, the proper appeals.

2509
03:33:34,910 --> 03:33:39,810
Maybe even you could label arms budsman, I know Mr. Wagner's doing a good job, but

2510
03:33:39,810 --> 03:33:46,070
He's got so much to do, maybe you could get a new position and ad hoc committee, just a possibility, and then add that too.

2511
03:33:46,270 --> 03:33:52,070
So when you're giving these people these leans, they still have one chance to appeal it before they lose it all the way.

2512
03:33:52,470 --> 03:33:56,410
And that way you've not only done due process by all your proper notifications, but

2513
03:33:56,410 --> 03:34:00,610
you've followed through by even giving them a second step to retain or regain their property back.

2514
03:34:00,950 --> 03:34:01,690
Just a suggestion.

2515
03:34:02,590 --> 03:34:04,530
Thank you for that, Sam, anybody on the phone please?

2516
03:34:07,960 --> 03:34:09,380
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

2517
03:34:09,580 --> 03:34:11,120
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

2518
03:34:13,750 --> 03:34:17,290
First shots in J.O.H.N.S. and now I'm going to give you my opinion.

2519
03:34:20,200 --> 03:34:27,680
Clean the property off, remove the people, that's the benefit of the people, if you remove

2520
03:34:27,680 --> 03:34:31,060
the vagrants it seems to have gone in there and squatted.

2521
03:34:32,160 --> 03:34:37,480
You have every authority to do that as far as taking the process without the due process

2522
03:34:37,480 --> 03:34:38,260
of law.

2523
03:34:38,980 --> 03:34:43,880
If you don't have any authority to do that because we're talking about a deceased person here

2524
03:34:43,880 --> 03:34:50,540
that I can't defend themselves. So you need to allow that process to work itself out through

2525
03:34:50,540 --> 03:34:58,180
the state and public and the administrator. But you guys do have authority to go deal

2526
03:34:58,180 --> 03:34:59,960
with the crackheads, they have.

2527
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:12,900
And the beyond the property. And you do have the authority that this lady is dead. You have the authority to go ahead and clean this up, but you don't have the authority to take the real estate. And I landed there. Thank you.

2528
03:35:14,950 --> 03:35:24,850
Thank you, Sam. Anybody else in the phone, please. Yes. Chair, I think it might be a repeat caller. They're unmuted. Please speak and file your name for the record.

2529
03:35:28,370 --> 03:35:34,050
My name is Darryl Young, I owe you in G. I'm a neighbor and a friend of

2530
03:35:34,050 --> 03:35:43,890
and I have her obituary in front of me right now, she passed away on April 11th, 2024. Shortly

2531
03:35:43,890 --> 03:35:51,510
after that her grandson moved all his drug buddy friends into the house and they were the ones that

2532
03:35:51,510 --> 03:35:56,810
burned the house down and I filed the original complaint against the house and you guys abated

2533
03:35:56,810 --> 03:36:02,830
and cleaned the property. Then they turned around and came back in with all these trailers and RVs

2534
03:36:02,830 --> 03:36:04,810
and all this junk, and it was the same people.

2535
03:36:05,330 --> 03:36:08,310
So this has been going on for four years.

2536
03:36:08,630 --> 03:36:09,910
Four years have been going on.

2537
03:36:10,250 --> 03:36:12,070
So it's time to clean this place up,

2538
03:36:12,210 --> 03:36:13,850
get these people out and fence it off.

2539
03:36:14,090 --> 03:36:15,250
It's destroying our neighborhood.

2540
03:36:17,730 --> 03:36:18,790
Thank you very much, sir.

2541
03:36:19,430 --> 03:36:20,050
I don't disagree.

2542
03:36:20,250 --> 03:36:21,070
Say I'm anybody else, please.

2543
03:36:21,250 --> 03:36:21,470
Thank you.

2544
03:36:22,170 --> 03:36:22,750
No chair.

2545
03:36:23,390 --> 03:36:24,670
All right, we're going to close public comment.

2546
03:36:24,930 --> 03:36:27,410
Mr. Chairman, just follow up with a question

2547
03:36:27,410 --> 03:36:30,130
for the officers of the county.

2548
03:36:31,350 --> 03:36:31,590
Sure.

2549
03:36:32,150 --> 03:36:32,810
Is that acceptable?

2550
03:36:33,070 --> 03:36:33,310
No, yeah.

2551
03:36:33,310 --> 03:36:40,210
I just have it so my question is I just want to make sure we get this right so when it's when it's written the grand

2552
03:36:40,210 --> 03:36:47,250
others another as did a deed of death eating property. Is that just orally or verbally communicated? How did you?

2553
03:36:48,530 --> 03:36:49,850
Why did you write that?

2554
03:36:51,610 --> 03:36:56,110
Susan did have a phone conversation and I'm sorry she's not here. She did have a phone

2555
03:36:56,110 --> 03:37:01,470
confirmation with the granddaughter and I believe the granddaughter did send her a copy of that over and that's

2556
03:37:01,470 --> 03:37:06,430
Susan realized it you know it hasn't been recorded. Okay. Of course it's still

2557
03:37:06,430 --> 03:37:10,450
unrecorded. That person is still at the owner now that would be sitting somewhere

2558
03:37:11,010 --> 03:37:16,710
not being posted so that's entirely possible. My question is did someone admit to

2559
03:37:16,710 --> 03:37:22,390
it not being recorded in time or was that something that we came to the conclusion of?

2560
03:37:22,390 --> 03:37:26,430
The grand daughter said that she did not know that it needed to be recorded before

2561
03:37:27,010 --> 03:37:31,370
she passed away. Okay so the DA is not here but he has said and I don't know

2562
03:37:31,370 --> 03:37:33,770
If it was on the record that you can look it up, it's probably there.

2563
03:37:33,910 --> 03:37:36,670
I know in California it is, I don't know about Nevada, it was a really similar.

2564
03:37:37,090 --> 03:37:41,530
It has to be recorded prior to death, obviously, because it's a special thing.

2565
03:37:42,750 --> 03:37:48,030
One of the points that I just want to make is in the event that this is a person that was

2566
03:37:48,030 --> 03:37:54,170
taken to some kind of care, there will likely be a big bill for that care.

2567
03:37:54,170 --> 03:38:01,170
And so, anybody opening probate will likely not recover the price, the cost of this,

2568
03:38:01,370 --> 03:38:06,690
any of it that they're asked to pay back all of the care fees, which could be 200,000.

2569
03:38:06,810 --> 03:38:09,630
And my mother died after being in a nursing over two years, it was like $3,000.

2570
03:38:10,990 --> 03:38:12,470
So that's how that works.

2571
03:38:13,050 --> 03:38:18,190
So I don't know that my fear is that no one will open probate for this.

2572
03:38:19,570 --> 03:38:32,130
As far as, you know, someone said that they looked and they have an obituary and I don't doubt that I had a family member in Cook County, Illinois, same place that we thought was dead.

2573
03:38:32,250 --> 03:38:36,090
I called my uncle who was assistant chief of police somewhere and he couldn't figure it out.

2574
03:38:36,110 --> 03:38:37,090
I don't know. I couldn't figure it out.

2575
03:38:37,090 --> 03:38:41,150
But he didn't even know as an assistant chief of police in Illinois, the Chicago suburb.

2576
03:38:41,630 --> 03:38:44,370
He couldn't, there's no button you can press to find out if people are dead.

2577
03:38:44,630 --> 03:38:45,490
Cook County is notorious.

2578
03:38:45,870 --> 03:38:47,050
I have gotten records from Cook County.

2579
03:38:47,190 --> 03:38:47,610
It's not fun.

2580
03:38:48,970 --> 03:38:50,910
It's notoriously hard to get records from.

2581
03:38:51,030 --> 03:38:56,370
I was born there, so my concern is if we don't do anything, it could never open

2582
03:38:56,370 --> 03:38:56,770
probate.

2583
03:38:56,870 --> 03:38:59,230
No one could ever do anything and it would just continue in the state.

2584
03:38:59,230 --> 03:39:01,350
It's been sounding like for about two plus years.

2585
03:39:02,170 --> 03:39:04,850
I would really like to make a motion to give these people some relief.

2586
03:39:04,850 --> 03:39:08,470
I feel very bad personally, but I'll wait until they appropriate time.

2587
03:39:08,630 --> 03:39:09,350
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2588
03:39:09,470 --> 03:39:10,130
Mr. Chair.

2589
03:39:10,750 --> 03:39:11,210
Go ahead, sir.

2590
03:39:12,090 --> 03:39:13,010
Thank you.

2591
03:39:13,390 --> 03:39:23,230
And so we had two folks call in through public comment, giving us dates of the deceased.

2592
03:39:24,470 --> 03:39:34,710
And I have here a date of June 9th, 2026, obituary, where Mr. Turner moved to Perump, Nevada

2593
03:39:36,090 --> 03:39:44,030
and family return to Chicago ill and noise, it's one in the same person, so we have three

2594
03:39:44,030 --> 03:39:50,790
different dates. June 9th, 2026, in the backup, it clearly reads that July was the date,

2595
03:39:50,950 --> 03:39:56,990
so they're off by one month, okay, and we go by the backup. We appreciate the neighbors

2596
03:39:56,990 --> 03:39:59,830
calling in, but we're going by the, I'm going by the backup.

2597
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:29,980
Here. And looking it up in the obituary, when you said you can't push a button, can I share it, but I looked it up myself. June 9th, 2026. It's not that's not in the back up. So second page it leads July. It reads that according to the owner was an turner passed away last month. This was the date here is August 5th, 2026 brings us to July.

2598
03:40:29,980 --> 03:40:31,140
And

2599
03:40:41,540 --> 03:40:45,160
this has not been recorded for the record.

2600
03:40:45,160 --> 03:40:49,780
This has not been recorded with the county recorder as

2601
03:40:52,560 --> 03:40:54,600
of today, according to the recorder.

2602
03:41:00,070 --> 03:41:08,030
So Commissioner Jebore, are you seeking more time or I mean, what would you think?

2603
03:41:08,150 --> 03:41:14,210
I'm giving, I'm giving chair, I'm giving more information, more information, okay?

2604
03:41:14,210 --> 03:41:19,430
to help support what code enforcement has been doing.

2605
03:41:19,930 --> 03:41:25,890
Again, I'm not challenging or criticizing their diligent work

2606
03:41:25,890 --> 03:41:27,870
in putting this information together.

2607
03:41:28,270 --> 03:41:30,990
It's very difficult when you don't have people on the property.

2608
03:41:31,570 --> 03:41:36,150
Question I have is, so this is a baited property,

2609
03:41:36,450 --> 03:41:41,150
property is totally fenced, and then how are we going to prohibit

2610
03:41:41,150 --> 03:41:47,590
and stop, we'll call them vagrants, homeless, I'd like you to.

2611
03:41:47,770 --> 03:41:50,510
How are we going to stop them from coming on this purpose?

2612
03:41:50,650 --> 03:41:53,790
So there, and I've been inside the property, there is a fence.

2613
03:41:54,170 --> 03:41:56,670
The problem is someone has kicked the fence in the front.

2614
03:41:57,190 --> 03:41:59,910
Now when we evaded the building on West Street that was on fire,

2615
03:41:59,910 --> 03:42:06,810
what was really great about what they did was, was that they did a really good job fencing.

2616
03:42:07,030 --> 03:42:10,230
So whoever did that, a good job to you, that's a great job.

2617
03:42:10,230 --> 03:42:12,170
Of course, it's been kicked in since then, but no one's there.

2618
03:42:13,170 --> 03:42:15,330
The point I'm making is, as long as we have, if we abated,

2619
03:42:15,790 --> 03:42:18,370
as long as we can secure it with the same kind of fence,

2620
03:42:19,050 --> 03:42:21,330
I don't know that we have anyone sophisticated enough

2621
03:42:21,330 --> 03:42:25,070
to breach that fence with whatever they've got.

2622
03:42:25,350 --> 03:42:27,470
So that's what I would, I mean, that's what I would like to do,

2623
03:42:27,670 --> 03:42:29,330
and I'm happy to make a discussion about it,

2624
03:42:29,390 --> 03:42:31,530
is just, I don't think it would be that costly

2625
03:42:31,530 --> 03:42:33,850
to remove what's there, at least from last week

2626
03:42:33,850 --> 03:42:35,490
when I drove by here a couple days ago.

2627
03:42:35,850 --> 03:42:36,770
Sunday, I drove by.

2628
03:42:37,570 --> 03:42:42,950
And it just, it looks like it's just trash there or something, like just kind of impiles.

2629
03:42:43,590 --> 03:42:46,350
So I don't, I don't think it's, it's not like one of these things where it's been embedded

2630
03:42:46,350 --> 03:42:46,970
into the ground.

2631
03:42:46,970 --> 03:42:52,830
Are there any kind of like waste issue the RVs have been removed unless they're back?

2632
03:42:53,410 --> 03:43:00,030
But I, I would like to do a motion to remove the trash and then to secure the property with

2633
03:43:00,030 --> 03:43:00,370
a fence.

2634
03:43:00,770 --> 03:43:01,870
I don't know how this works.

2635
03:43:02,050 --> 03:43:06,610
I know we have an incoming administrator and I'm out of my element for this, but we, we

2636
03:43:06,610 --> 03:43:12,930
We do need to maybe notify that this is likely to be as cheated to the state.

2637
03:43:12,930 --> 03:43:15,910
I don't know why that works, I don't really care, it's not my jurisdiction.

2638
03:43:16,250 --> 03:43:19,930
But I would be pretty surprised if someone stepped forward and took possession of this property.

2639
03:43:20,590 --> 03:43:24,310
So I don't know if that's part of this motion, is this part of that motion?

2640
03:43:24,570 --> 03:43:27,390
No, we just, we just abated and then we just keep an eye on it.

2641
03:43:27,410 --> 03:43:29,250
I think that's, I think that's what we do.

2642
03:43:29,890 --> 03:43:32,950
But that's my concern is it's going to sit however it is.

2643
03:43:38,390 --> 03:43:44,210
If there's a specific way to do a motion, can I ask a question, please, Chair?

2644
03:43:44,610 --> 03:43:45,910
If I may, sorry.

2645
03:43:46,310 --> 03:43:46,970
Go ahead, Celeste.

2646
03:43:47,130 --> 03:43:52,370
So Susan has been in contact with the property owners, they are, sorry, the alleged property

2647
03:43:52,370 --> 03:43:58,250
owners, the family, and they are aware that they do need to remove this junk, and they're

2648
03:43:58,250 --> 03:44:01,170
willing to get this removed.

2649
03:44:01,170 --> 03:44:09,450
That's so I don't know if we want to give them 30 days to abate it themselves and then we go in an abate because they were just

2650
03:44:09,450 --> 03:44:13,230
I don't know that we can just have to notify that the trespass on to someone else's land.

2651
03:44:13,410 --> 03:44:14,130
I don't know if we can do that.

2652
03:44:15,090 --> 03:44:17,330
Can we authorize a trespass of this land?

2653
03:44:17,730 --> 03:44:18,730
Is our DA not there?

2654
03:44:21,300 --> 03:44:21,840
I'm here.

2655
03:44:22,240 --> 03:44:23,400
Oh, what do you think, DA?

2656
03:44:28,010 --> 03:44:33,890
I'm not sure I've heard a specific question, but what I'm hearing now is I think there's serious concerns about whether or not

2657
03:44:33,890 --> 03:44:38,370
is actually constitutes a current of ownership.

2658
03:44:39,370 --> 03:44:46,750
Well, ownership, but it's more a question of is it really truly a nuisance in this current condition?

2659
03:44:47,730 --> 03:44:55,930
If you declared a nuisance, then the process is you have to serve notice for them to clean it up,

2660
03:44:55,930 --> 03:44:59,970
and if they don't clean it up within 30 days, then the can-

2661
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:08,680
County has the ability to then abate the nuisance and then wherever the cost incurred become a lien on the property.

2662
03:45:11,040 --> 03:45:31,240
I ask a question just because the code enforcement agents are going to have to deal with is that I'm just looking through how they handle it. Since the owner does not exist, then how how do they handle it if the people who have their properties on someone else's land, how do you want them to handle that? Well, the practical issue here is that

2663
03:45:31,240 --> 03:45:43,540
But the county would have a lien on the property, but if it's not really enforceable because the estate has no money, I don't think the county should expect that they're going to be recouping any of the costs that's being incurred.

2664
03:45:44,140 --> 03:45:45,340
I mean, we have to be honest about that.

2665
03:45:45,340 --> 03:45:50,600
But the real question is, what do we, so the owner doesn't exist, there's no owner.

2666
03:45:50,960 --> 03:45:54,580
Someone says, well, that's my pile of trash out there and I like to move, it's, can we

2667
03:45:54,580 --> 03:45:58,620
can code legally say, yeah, go right on, I had that land that you don't own and go ahead

2668
03:45:58,620 --> 03:45:59,120
and collect that.

2669
03:45:59,260 --> 03:46:02,560
We should now be given permission to do anything with that land, other than clean up the

2670
03:46:02,960 --> 03:46:03,300
nuisance.

2671
03:46:03,820 --> 03:46:05,640
And who can do the cleaning of the nuisance?

2672
03:46:05,840 --> 03:46:06,780
You had none, the done property?

2673
03:46:07,260 --> 03:46:10,720
If the county declares it's a nuisance, then notice has to go out.

2674
03:46:11,300 --> 03:46:13,380
If after 30 days they don't

2675
03:46:13,380 --> 03:46:19,100
update the nuisance, then by law the county has the authority to go in and clean up the property and obey the nuisance.

2676
03:46:22,880 --> 03:46:28,180
Do you want the code people to call their contacts and say get your stuff out of here, even though they're not the honors or does that?

2677
03:46:28,420 --> 03:46:29,520
I don't want to put you on the spot.

2678
03:46:29,540 --> 03:46:31,020
It's not a question of what I want.

2679
03:46:31,260 --> 03:46:34,900
It's the only choice you have if you need to declare a nuisance or you don't declare a nuisance.

2680
03:46:35,100 --> 03:46:35,820
I understand, thank you.

2681
03:46:38,200 --> 03:46:43,640
And by the way, Commissioner Bain, seeing how you claimed ownership earlier, you'll have to recuse yourself.

2682
03:46:43,640 --> 03:46:47,980
I'm the owner, so we're all owners of this property as much as anyone else.

2683
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:53,520
Sir, for when it's worth, I'm sorry, I'll still not.

2684
03:46:54,260 --> 03:47:00,780
I'm still at, I've got a text into Rayland Powers and I'm looking at the tax records on

2685
03:47:00,780 --> 03:47:08,480
this property, and the quarterly payments are only $94, but the first installment is $585.

2686
03:47:08,520 --> 03:47:13,060
That's tells me that these are back taxes haven't been paid, and Rayland's on vacation.

2687
03:47:13,060 --> 03:47:16,340
So, I don't know what the status of the taxes are, can you tell me?

2688
03:47:17,080 --> 03:47:22,160
It looks unpaid and to the point where, you know, this whole thing is a hot mask.

2689
03:47:22,380 --> 03:47:24,240
That's not even relevant, I mean, to be honest.

2690
03:47:24,240 --> 03:47:26,040
Is it relevant because we've got to get it up and put the property.

2691
03:47:26,060 --> 03:47:27,620
It is a nuisance or it isn't.

2692
03:47:27,820 --> 03:47:28,300
That's true.

2693
03:47:28,660 --> 03:47:29,040
That's true.

2694
03:47:29,400 --> 03:47:30,000
That's the question.

2695
03:47:30,640 --> 03:47:34,920
But as far as what the DA said about us being able to collect our money, if we end up taking

2696
03:47:34,920 --> 03:47:37,100
the property from back taxes, we'll be collecting our money.

2697
03:47:37,260 --> 03:47:37,760
It's my point.

2698
03:47:37,960 --> 03:47:38,400
And thank you.

2699
03:47:38,400 --> 03:47:41,540
I think if we give them 30 days, they will get it.

2700
03:47:42,400 --> 03:47:45,200
They've been in contact since we finally talked to the granddaughter.

2701
03:47:45,960 --> 03:47:47,200
He's been very cooperative.

2702
03:47:48,200 --> 03:47:50,800
The grandson is the one that's in here in town.

2703
03:47:51,380 --> 03:47:56,640
He's the one bringing the stuff in, but he did help remove what's been removed from the property.

2704
03:47:56,960 --> 03:47:58,920
He brought it in and helped take it back home.

2705
03:47:59,180 --> 03:48:03,300
He created it and then it's in the process of cleaning it up.

2706
03:48:03,980 --> 03:48:05,080
How do you keep him out?

2707
03:48:05,420 --> 03:48:06,340
Chair, go ahead.

2708
03:48:06,440 --> 03:48:07,320
Chair, can I jump in here for a minute?

2709
03:48:07,320 --> 03:48:07,940
Yes, please, please.

2710
03:48:07,940 --> 03:48:20,120
I say so to everything I'm hearing, my suggestion is that we continue this for 30 days to see if we can get this thing cleaned up and then we can come back after 30 days and make a final decision.

2711
03:48:20,780 --> 03:48:37,840
I like that I'm sure and I have I have to make a motion if it doesn't go that's fine I can't do that's these people we have been continuing this for years really if you go back to the time when it was burned down these people on the street have been dealing with these same people who said they were the same people from what the testimony is I'm getting

2712
03:48:38,120 --> 03:48:46,240
who are saying that they are going to clean it up now, we're saying two years ago, and it burned down that they were going to clean it up and get out, and they got up for a couple months and then came right back.

2713
03:48:46,980 --> 03:48:49,800
I can't do that if I lose, I lose, but I have to make the motion.

2714
03:48:50,120 --> 03:48:51,080
So I had to make the motion.

2715
03:48:51,200 --> 03:48:51,560
Yeah, please.

2716
03:48:51,680 --> 03:48:52,320
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2717
03:48:52,540 --> 03:48:53,980
Thank you. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

2718
03:48:53,980 --> 03:48:57,480
I would define the property located 246161 South Mallorch Street,

2719
03:48:57,480 --> 03:49:09,340
about a constitutes a nuisance in the condition, and that the condition of the property is a safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety due to the combination of inoperable vehicles to parties trash chunk and debris across the property.

2720
03:49:12,890 --> 03:49:21,750
If the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated before October 1,

2721
03:49:21,750 --> 03:49:30,010
in 2026, county is ordered to abate the conditions percentage in that county code 17.04.86.0.M.N.

2722
03:49:30,410 --> 03:49:34,390
Staff, can I ask for an amendment on that?

2723
03:49:34,830 --> 03:49:39,410
Could we identify a funding source if that's the case, how we would pay you to do that?

2724
03:49:40,210 --> 03:49:41,170
How do we pay for the...

2725
03:49:41,170 --> 03:49:41,650
What is the tip?

2726
03:49:42,050 --> 03:49:42,310
Sorry.

2727
03:49:42,490 --> 03:49:43,670
What is the typical funding source?

2728
03:49:44,390 --> 03:49:44,990
Do you know?

2729
03:49:45,050 --> 03:49:46,050
Well, we don't really have...

2730
03:49:46,050 --> 03:49:47,810
That's part of the problem.

2731
03:49:47,810 --> 03:49:53,450
And with these abatements, we don't have any kind of money that we collect in the

2732
03:49:53,450 --> 03:49:56,730
co-compliance that pays for this kind of stuff.

2733
03:49:57,290 --> 03:49:59,550
It's going to come out of somewhere else.

2734
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:04,660
So that's our comptroller. We have a motion on the floor and two seconds, by the way. Go ahead.

2735
03:50:07,220 --> 03:50:09,820
We can use LATCF. Done.

2736
03:50:12,130 --> 03:50:33,890
Easy. Is it acceptable through? Yep. Even there's a good chance it's going to get cleaned up. And I hope it does. So can I can I can I amend it without restating or no, Mr. DA? Yeah. Let's restate it. Make sure we're clear. I move to find the property located at 2461 South Mallorch Street,

2737
03:50:33,890 --> 03:50:45,730
the current Nevada constitutes a nuisance in that the condition of the property is a safety hazard and dangerous to public health and safety do the accumulation of an on profile vehicles RV's trash chunk and debris across the property.

2738
03:50:47,170 --> 03:51:03,730
In the event the nuisance is found, I move that if the conditions of the nuisance are not abated honor before October 1, 2026, the counties ordered to evade the conditions pursuant to the county code 17404 860 mn.

2739
03:51:03,890 --> 03:51:06,610
the funding source for this being the LATCF funds.

2740
03:51:06,970 --> 03:51:13,310
To board with draws his first, second motion, and I second this motion.

2741
03:51:16,320 --> 03:51:18,380
All right, we have a motion on the floor and a second.

2742
03:51:19,360 --> 03:51:26,020
My question for you real quick before we vote is how do we keep the scumbag, dude, from jumping over to the place?

2743
03:51:26,680 --> 03:51:30,100
Do I put, I'm sorry, can I put out the restate there with a fence?

2744
03:51:30,480 --> 03:51:32,600
I'm thank you, sir, I appreciate that, do you want me to rest?

2745
03:51:32,680 --> 03:51:33,920
I will, I can do it real quick, I'm sorry.

2746
03:51:33,920 --> 03:51:34,780
Just a major motion.

2747
03:51:35,880 --> 03:51:45,700
Amending such as to the abated conditions is inclusive of the government putting a suitable

2748
03:51:45,700 --> 03:51:52,120
fence around the entire property, noting that there is partial fence at the property

2749
03:51:52,120 --> 03:51:52,780
at this time.

2750
03:51:56,000 --> 03:51:57,520
Mr. Boer, so, oh, man, second.

2751
03:51:58,020 --> 03:51:58,240
All right.

2752
03:51:58,420 --> 03:52:02,520
We've got an amended everything and a second everything amended and we're ready to go.

2753
03:52:02,740 --> 03:52:03,140
Let's vote.

2754
03:52:03,900 --> 03:52:04,480
Aye.

2755
03:52:04,480 --> 03:52:04,720
All right.

2756
03:52:05,040 --> 03:52:05,380
Hi.

2757
03:52:06,020 --> 03:52:06,980
Good morning, Zai.

2758
03:52:07,340 --> 03:52:08,740
Basketball tie, that carries 5-0.

2759
03:52:08,900 --> 03:52:10,440
Thank you, Rob, and Celeste.

2760
03:52:11,660 --> 03:52:16,020
Just to be clear and correct me if I'm wrong, DA.

2761
03:52:16,740 --> 03:52:20,280
If it goes to the point of the county having to abate it,

2762
03:52:20,380 --> 03:52:22,340
and we're going to use LATCF,

2763
03:52:22,680 --> 03:52:25,360
we're going to have to come back and get that amount approved

2764
03:52:26,220 --> 03:52:29,380
to amend our spending plan for the LATCF, correct?

2765
03:52:32,000 --> 03:52:33,500
Yeah, if that was not part of the motion,

2766
03:52:33,600 --> 03:52:34,820
I wasn't sure if it was or not.

2767
03:52:36,460 --> 03:52:42,840
Yeah, it wasn't. I'm just getting clarification and we could we could do we could do that later. That's correct. Okay. Can't measure.

2768
03:52:43,940 --> 03:52:47,320
All right. Good work. Let's do 12. Please item

2769
03:52:53,310 --> 03:53:00,810
12 for possible action discussion and deliberation regarding clarification on the scope and intent of the current county.

2770
03:53:00,810 --> 03:53:06,410
hiring freeze as it relates to personnel within the public safety offices, departments.

2771
03:53:07,230 --> 03:53:16,530
Specifically, the sheriff's office is requesting that the board determine whether the hiring freeze is intended to apply to positions within the sheriff's office,

2772
03:53:16,990 --> 03:53:22,490
prompt valet fire and emergency medical services, or whether they are exempt from the hiring freeze.

2773
03:53:23,270 --> 03:53:24,310
Thank you for that.

2774
03:53:29,280 --> 03:53:36,520
So the reason we brought this up is because there keeps going back and forth as to do we have a freeze?

2775
03:53:36,780 --> 03:53:37,680
Do we not have a freeze?

2776
03:53:37,800 --> 03:53:38,560
Do we have a freeze?

2777
03:53:38,640 --> 03:53:39,580
Do we not have a freeze?

2778
03:53:39,680 --> 03:53:43,660
It seems like every other week it goes a different way.

2779
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:52,820
The last we discussed something relative to this was replacing a terminated employee.

2780
03:53:52,820 --> 03:54:04,380
I understand that is complicated in another way, however, should this issue come up again,

2781
03:54:05,140 --> 03:54:07,920
we need to know whether we can rehire or fill our positions.

2782
03:54:08,700 --> 03:54:17,260
If we don't, we are going to be reducing our staff in effect by not allowing us to replace

2783
03:54:17,800 --> 03:54:20,500
staff that may or may not leave for whatever reason.

2784
03:54:20,500 --> 03:54:21,420
so

2785
03:54:23,560 --> 03:54:30,060
that's where I am. Okay. Can I offer some input on this? Yes, please. Okay, when

2786
03:54:30,060 --> 03:54:37,360
the budget was adopted, all vacant positions, if they become vacant or vacant at

2787
03:54:37,360 --> 03:54:43,480
that time, in the general fund, were frozen. It does not mean a department cannot

2788
03:54:43,480 --> 03:54:49,360
come back to the board and request that position to be filled. It is just an

2789
03:54:49,360 --> 03:54:56,940
extra step but a lot of times when people do get terminated, resign, whatever the case

2790
03:54:56,940 --> 03:54:59,960
this may be, there's a cruells that have to be paid up.

2791
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:29,120
Now, with that position, like vacation time, sick time, and what we need to be cognizant of is if, with that added cost of the accrual with that position leaving, sometimes if we leave it vacant for 90 days, let's say, we can recoup that to where we're now back to what was actually budgeted for that position for that year. So that's kind of what that extra step is in, therefore, as far as the fire department goes,

2792
03:55:29,120 --> 03:55:38,580
Does this does not affect the fire department at this time because they are not part of the night county general fund, okay?

2793
03:55:38,880 --> 03:55:39,380
You're free.

2794
03:55:41,680 --> 03:55:46,580
It's like, okay, so let's-

2795
03:55:46,580 --> 03:55:48,240
So does that make sense?

2796
03:55:49,200 --> 03:55:57,980
What I'm hearing is that when the position becomes vacant, you put in the vacancy form so that we can look at it as a board

2797
03:55:57,980 --> 03:56:06,940
and make sure that we have the accrual if there's been an accrual so that we keep our keep

2798
03:56:06,940 --> 03:56:16,120
within our budget. My understanding of the accrual is that that is accounted for in a fund of a

2799
03:56:19,220 --> 03:56:26,140
accrual fund. That's a good name. That's not correct in a perfect world. Yes, that's the way it should

2800
03:56:26,140 --> 03:56:34,680
work, but that has not been done until now. That is something we are starting to accrue

2801
03:56:34,680 --> 03:56:39,820
for, but at this point, we don't have much build up in there to keep up with the pace.

2802
03:56:40,480 --> 03:56:46,200
So eventually, yes, you're right. Hopefully, we won't have to take that into consideration

2803
03:56:46,200 --> 03:56:51,940
anymore. But at this point, we don't have those accruals, and we had some pretty big redirements

2804
03:56:51,940 --> 03:56:57,040
that we just went through, so it's depleted a little bit we had.

2805
03:56:59,080 --> 03:57:01,880
Okay, how about we, well

2806
03:57:04,060 --> 03:57:04,960
we have to do public too.

2807
03:57:06,140 --> 03:57:10,500
So, Commissioner Gabor or Bain, do you have anything before we go to public comment?

2808
03:57:11,440 --> 03:57:12,540
Public comment please.

2809
03:57:12,920 --> 03:57:16,040
Okay, we're going to hang tight Joe, we're going to open up public comment.

2810
03:57:17,260 --> 03:57:18,480
Come on down Mr. Pittman.

2811
03:57:22,250 --> 03:57:30,650
Steven Pittman, P-I-T-M-A-N, as your well aware, the primary function of a government is the safety of its citizens.

2812
03:57:31,890 --> 03:57:32,590
Thank you.

2813
03:57:33,050 --> 03:57:33,670
Thank you.

2814
03:57:34,130 --> 03:57:35,170
Come on down a prompt, please.

2815
03:57:39,560 --> 03:57:41,960
Angelina Jackson, J.A.C. Cancelin.

2816
03:57:43,640 --> 03:57:54,860
Of course, first and foremost, our first responders should be paid for their time and their sacrifices that make more than anybody.

2817
03:57:54,860 --> 03:58:06,320
in this county. And there's a difference in the salaries. There's some of them actually exceed which one would expect to be paid over a hundred thousand.

2818
03:58:08,700 --> 03:58:11,140
Because Mr. Boskovich, you can sit there and shake your head.

2819
03:58:11,320 --> 03:58:12,300
No, I'll agree with you.

2820
03:58:12,640 --> 03:58:19,880
Okay. And thank you for that. And so there's positions that aren't explainable.

2821
03:58:20,260 --> 03:58:24,860
Okay. Why we have 30 administrators or secretaries is beyond me.

2822
03:58:26,920 --> 03:58:32,000
there's all these people getting paid the nothing to show for it and yet the

2823
03:58:33,040 --> 03:58:37,360
shares department and fire department are the ones that are you know losing

2824
03:58:37,360 --> 03:58:44,000
here and I'm all for it however there has to be accountability for these

2825
03:58:44,000 --> 03:58:49,420
positions. It blows my mind that Tony Paul and the other challenge barely have

2826
03:58:49,420 --> 03:58:54,240
any any first responders whatsoever. So somebody's gonna have to take some

2827
03:58:54,240 --> 03:59:01,740
cutbacks and other departments in order to pay them and there's no other way because

2828
03:59:02,860 --> 03:59:08,000
it's obvious there's no more money in the town. We have no more money. So where are

2829
03:59:08,000 --> 03:59:12,480
you guys are planning to get this money from us beyond me? You guys are going to look

2830
03:59:12,480 --> 03:59:17,500
at all the employees that you guys have on this. They were paying $64 million for a year

2831
03:59:18,660 --> 03:59:23,540
and take some cutbacks because some people believe me when you have an administrative secretary

2832
03:59:23,540 --> 03:59:25,700
that's making $160,000 a year.

2833
03:59:26,300 --> 03:59:27,080
Come on.

2834
03:59:28,760 --> 03:59:29,660
That's ridiculous.

2835
03:59:31,220 --> 03:59:33,060
Somebody needs to look back at payroll

2836
03:59:33,060 --> 03:59:36,720
and make some choices here in order for these departments

2837
03:59:36,720 --> 03:59:39,380
because us as taxpayers, we have no more to give.

2838
03:59:41,000 --> 03:59:43,660
Everything that they've given, we've shown nothing for.

2839
03:59:44,020 --> 03:59:44,380
Thank you.

2840
03:59:44,860 --> 03:59:46,880
Sam, anybody coming to Toronto, Bob, please?

2841
03:59:47,320 --> 03:59:47,720
Oh, OK.

2842
03:59:48,300 --> 03:59:49,680
Let's go to Tonapal.

2843
03:59:49,680 --> 03:59:54,200
All right, Tim Bohinen, B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N.

2844
03:59:55,040 --> 03:59:56,760
Public safety is very important.

2845
03:59:57,460 --> 03:59:58,620
Regents are very important.

2846
03:59:59,100 --> 03:59:59,720
Welcome to finance.

2847
04:00:00,840 --> 04:00:03,320
The key here is balance.

2848
04:00:05,730 --> 04:00:28,530
The key also is, okay, what is the extra cost beyond this? You fund it? Great. Have you counted for day two? Have you counted for the retirement? Costs that are associated with that, the employment benefits. Making sure that's addressed in the budget. Making sure that's addressed in the funding. Those are all key elements.

2849
04:00:28,530 --> 04:00:39,190
I'm referred to the board to say, hey, safety, finance, it's a tough combination, watch

2850
04:00:39,190 --> 04:00:41,170
our budget and watch our people.

2851
04:00:41,590 --> 04:00:41,830
Thank you.

2852
04:00:42,370 --> 04:00:42,910
Thank you.

2853
04:00:43,330 --> 04:00:44,590
Come on down Beth.

2854
04:00:51,050 --> 04:00:52,610
Beth Bore-Sevich.

2855
04:00:53,270 --> 04:00:53,870
That was weird.

2856
04:00:54,630 --> 04:00:57,250
B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

2857
04:00:57,710 --> 04:01:04,530
When we first started talking about freezing positions, I seemed to recall that it was

2858
04:01:04,530 --> 04:01:19,750
All that you guys were all in favor of always being prepared to keep the police department or sheriff's department sorry funded and with employees.

2859
04:01:20,430 --> 04:01:26,790
So there should be no question, I don't know where you're going to get the money from, LATCF.

2860
04:01:27,410 --> 04:01:33,510
I don't know where you're going to get it, go into every department and tell them there's a 5% cut on everybody's salary.

2861
04:01:33,510 --> 04:01:36,850
That will pay for the sheriff's that we need.

2862
04:01:38,630 --> 04:01:43,630
Instead of the people having to bite the bullet and potentially have more taxes,

2863
04:01:44,690 --> 04:01:51,310
I think that all the staff should go ahead and suffer as well with us.

2864
04:01:52,050 --> 04:01:56,550
Five percent, I don't know how much that would hurt anybody, but

2865
04:01:56,550 --> 04:01:59,650
that would pay for officers that we need.

2866
04:02:00,170 --> 04:02:00,590
Thank you.

2867
04:02:00,590 --> 04:02:03,590
Thank you, Sam. Now we'll check the phone, please.

2868
04:02:04,410 --> 04:02:08,030
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

2869
04:02:10,990 --> 04:02:14,250
Hello, commissioners, Bruce Johnson, JLH and SOM.

2870
04:02:15,710 --> 04:02:19,850
And to all our final lovely paropians out there.

2871
04:02:20,810 --> 04:02:27,270
It might be time for the paropians actually to come together as a township.

2872
04:02:27,270 --> 04:02:32,450
and consider doing a little reforming within our county.

2873
04:02:35,390 --> 04:02:40,070
And, you know, we need to start looking at all these retirement plans,

2874
04:02:41,090 --> 04:02:44,130
all the union contributions.

2875
04:02:44,890 --> 04:02:48,750
Didn't we just have a bunch of money that just got approved on the last meeting

2876
04:02:48,750 --> 04:02:54,590
that went to union organizers or something for the firefighters?

2877
04:02:54,590 --> 04:03:02,290
And you know there's a lot of places that a lot of money goes out to other people that actually could be paying these positions.

2878
04:03:02,650 --> 04:03:08,110
If this community was operating correctly as in Republican informed.

2879
04:03:09,390 --> 04:03:12,250
So I just want the people out there to consider that.

2880
04:03:13,370 --> 04:03:17,090
And there are ways to make that happen lawfully.

2881
04:03:17,790 --> 04:03:22,390
And so we will get into discussion about that and I landed there. Thank you.

2882
04:03:22,390 --> 04:03:23,310
Thank you.

2883
04:03:23,410 --> 04:03:23,870
Come on down.

2884
04:03:24,690 --> 04:03:24,750
Debra

2885
04:03:28,520 --> 04:03:40,980
Thomas, T-H-O-M-A-S, it really concerns me when I see on an app on my phone.

2886
04:03:41,780 --> 04:03:50,520
And I see that, oh my gosh, there's all kinds of people that are in trouble or have

2887
04:03:51,080 --> 04:03:53,220
gotten enrex, have gotten stock.

2888
04:03:53,780 --> 04:03:57,600
It seems like we don't have enough police officers to do that.

2889
04:03:57,600 --> 04:04:01,900
I don't know. I might be wrong. Am I wrong? I didn't think so.

2890
04:04:03,980 --> 04:04:09,600
So I think we need to do everything we can even if we have to cut back someplace else

2891
04:04:10,400 --> 04:04:19,100
because we really need to be protected. We need to have protection from people that

2892
04:04:19,100 --> 04:04:26,660
that are inherently bad and also we need to be protected,

2893
04:04:26,980 --> 04:04:31,560
have our children protected from people that sell drugs.

2894
04:04:32,320 --> 04:04:32,980
Thank you.

2895
04:04:34,260 --> 04:04:35,520
Thank you, Sam.

2896
04:04:36,020 --> 04:04:36,980
Do you have anybody for me?

2897
04:04:37,480 --> 04:04:38,860
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted.

2898
04:04:39,080 --> 04:04:40,560
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

2899
04:04:44,110 --> 04:04:47,530
Hello, Commissioner Michael David Garcia, T-A-R-G-I-A.

2900
04:04:48,730 --> 04:04:50,570
My volume okay for you this time.

2901
04:04:50,570 --> 04:04:52,530
That's good Michael.

2902
04:04:54,820 --> 04:04:59,620
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it anyhow boy

2903
04:05:00,370 --> 04:05:30,250
You know, we really got to come up out of the ether when it comes to the safety tool. This is the same man that came before you and describe the flop use and his criminal activity by abusing and neglecting the systems as a safety tool. You know, I don't know how far you can go with the latch, the misappropriations of it, but maybe we get some more that handle our internal fraud and civil rights violations. And I'm trying to figure out what

2904
04:05:30,250 --> 04:05:32,670
But we can't use the last money for it.

2905
04:05:33,410 --> 04:05:39,050
You know, USC 18666 again are all my state and federal partners that might have

2906
04:05:39,050 --> 04:05:43,510
a ear omnis, because the prime example of it, you know, it's a safety tool.

2907
04:05:43,910 --> 04:05:50,430
We were formed to protect liberty, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, property rights,

2908
04:05:51,190 --> 04:05:51,870
inherent rights.

2909
04:05:52,510 --> 04:05:58,370
You talk about drugs, but the number one economic market is against these children.

2910
04:05:58,370 --> 04:05:59,590
but look at our courts.

2911
04:06:00,190 --> 04:06:02,930
Six years, you can never talk about the traffic of children

2912
04:06:03,490 --> 04:06:07,550
in these courts, by these badges, where you at?

2913
04:06:07,670 --> 04:06:08,230
You've got to latch.

2914
04:06:09,170 --> 04:06:10,790
You want to latch on to something?

2915
04:06:13,600 --> 04:06:14,240
Are you still there?

2916
04:06:14,980 --> 04:06:16,240
How much time do I have?

2917
04:06:17,100 --> 04:06:17,900
Can you engage?

2918
04:06:18,240 --> 04:06:19,620
I can't see the cloth from here.

2919
04:06:20,480 --> 04:06:21,680
I've got a 30-second leg.

2920
04:06:24,880 --> 04:06:28,440
Accountability, responsibility, transparent.

2921
04:06:28,440 --> 04:06:28,620
Lauren,

2922
04:06:30,850 --> 04:06:35,310
fraud, extortion, and official oppression, that's all y'all are.

2923
04:06:38,820 --> 04:06:43,120
So who's going to help that, can we reallocate them last year, a special prosecution for that?

2924
04:06:44,400 --> 04:06:45,880
It's going to hold me, Michael.

2925
04:06:46,400 --> 04:06:47,540
Good evening, Linda.

2926
04:06:50,620 --> 04:06:52,060
Linda Clark's LARK.

2927
04:06:52,400 --> 04:06:52,820
I

2928
04:06:55,920 --> 04:06:57,600
came from California, originally.

2929
04:06:59,220 --> 04:07:00,460
You could be who if you want.

2930
04:07:00,960 --> 04:07:02,620
I wouldn't go back if they paid me to go back.

2931
04:07:04,020 --> 04:07:05,280
And then I went to Colorado.

2932
04:07:05,280 --> 04:07:10,940
battle. Beautiful place, beautiful place where I lived, lovely home, lovely neighborhood.

2933
04:07:12,480 --> 04:07:13,560
And then I came here.

2934
04:07:16,270 --> 04:07:20,470
And I love it here. I've said before, I don't love our government

2935
04:07:20,470 --> 04:07:22,790
because I think it's very unfunctional.

2936
04:07:24,830 --> 04:07:28,170
But I'm thinking about, we've got people maybe

2937
04:07:28,170 --> 04:07:33,090
going to be moving here. Who knows? They keep looking at what's going on here. I sure wouldn't

2938
04:07:33,090 --> 04:07:41,250
come again but we're going to have all these houses being built and supposedly all the schools

2939
04:07:41,250 --> 04:07:44,450
are going to get filled and we'll have enough room for all of them. We're going to have

2940
04:07:44,450 --> 04:07:50,710
all these people here. We need the fire department and we need the sheriff's department. We can't

2941
04:07:50,710 --> 04:07:56,550
survive on what we have now. He's already running ragged from one end of the county to the

2942
04:07:56,550 --> 04:08:02,910
other and I'm sure that Mr. Lewis is also. So how do we solve that? And whatever you think

2943
04:08:02,910 --> 04:08:08,270
you're going to do. Where's the money come from? I know. We're going to get another grant.

2944
04:08:09,450 --> 04:08:13,930
I'm still sick of hearing that word. We're not going to get another grant. And even if you did,

2945
04:08:14,030 --> 04:08:19,430
it's still not going to pay for anything. So why don't we just try to figure out? Maybe we only need

2946
04:08:19,430 --> 04:08:26,490
three commissioners instead of five. I don't know if that's legal. But it's a good idea. We could cut

2947
04:08:26,490 --> 04:08:32,890
some expenses there. We think, yeah. So and there's probably a lot of other departments in this

2948
04:08:32,890 --> 04:08:39,890
government since we know we have probably too many and maybe a lot of them that are overpaid

2949
04:08:39,890 --> 04:08:44,370
and don't get me wrong people need the income today because of our economy and I'm not knocking that

2950
04:08:44,370 --> 04:08:52,010
but we have to make cuts. Zena knows that you know we have people in this town that understand that

2951
04:08:52,010 --> 04:08:58,630
But for some reason it doesn't move does it? Thank you. Okay, Sam. Do you have anybody on the phone? Please?

2952
04:08:59,370 --> 04:09:01,410
No chair. Come on up. Do I?

2953
04:09:06,780 --> 04:09:11,700
Do I delay LILY? Well, I think our we've just went through all the budgets

2954
04:09:13,060 --> 04:09:14,280
The county's broke

2955
04:09:15,280 --> 04:09:16,960
We need more police officers

2956
04:09:16,960 --> 04:09:22,540
So it seems to me where we find the money for the police officers is we lay off people in other departments

2957
04:09:22,540 --> 04:09:25,780
and then you have the money to hire a police officer.

2958
04:09:26,140 --> 04:09:28,020
This is a commissioner's choice here.

2959
04:09:28,720 --> 04:09:30,700
You guys spent the money on salaries.

2960
04:09:31,380 --> 04:09:33,140
I looked at transparent Nevada,

2961
04:09:34,080 --> 04:09:37,120
25 people making two, $300,000 a year.

2962
04:09:37,700 --> 04:09:40,920
We lay some people off enough to what do we need?

2963
04:09:41,120 --> 04:09:41,700
Six, 10?

2964
04:09:42,180 --> 04:09:44,100
I don't know if you all said how many officers we need.

2965
04:09:44,420 --> 04:09:47,400
Then you divide that by how many you laid off,

2966
04:09:47,740 --> 04:09:49,020
and then you have your police officer.

2967
04:09:49,340 --> 04:09:51,120
So it comes down to the commissioners,

2968
04:09:51,120 --> 04:09:57,440
is public safety more important is a more important to have a police officer or a firefighter

2969
04:09:57,440 --> 04:09:59,740
out doing actually saving lives

2970
04:10:00,000 --> 04:10:29,060
Let me protect the people, or is it more important having another person being paid on the payroll? If it's police officer, then you lay somebody else off and pay the people and then the problem's solved. But that's the decision you guys have to make. But to run us out of budget again, let's find money out of this account. You'll be right back where you were this year next June, wondering why we are $15 million in the whole. John brought it up before.

2971
04:10:29,060 --> 04:10:33,440
You guys people say you want us to spend men money. I'm telling you not to spend money

2972
04:10:33,440 --> 04:10:38,000
I'm telling you read a portion of the money to take care of public safety

2973
04:10:39,040 --> 04:10:45,060
So this department out of eight people late to a mob now you can fire an officer. This is not copy

2974
04:10:45,060 --> 04:10:49,900
It's not rocket science. You're just are you willing to do it? I don't know. We'll see

2975
04:10:53,000 --> 04:10:54,700
Thank you to it. It's always very

2976
04:10:55,960 --> 04:10:56,400
easy

2977
04:10:57,340 --> 04:10:58,720
Come on down sir

2978
04:11:04,000 --> 04:11:13,180
Darrell Wade, WAD, being a former EMS member, having worked with forces of many walks,

2979
04:11:13,700 --> 04:11:20,120
police, etc. I am in this for Joe. I am in this for the department. We need more officers.

2980
04:11:20,740 --> 04:11:24,900
When you're laying in bed at night and there's a house burning next to you, you're going

2981
04:11:24,900 --> 04:11:28,800
to wonder if you have enough officers or police officers to handle that situation.

2982
04:11:32,020 --> 04:11:32,260
Now I

2983
04:11:32,260 --> 04:11:38,620
can be creative. We need to put our heads together, stop playing, blame on everybody else,

2984
04:11:39,540 --> 04:11:47,340
get down, sit down and figure it out. That's the bottom line. We need more EMS. We've got

2985
04:11:47,340 --> 04:11:52,640
an aging fleet. We need to get the fleets up. We need to get our proper equipment going

2986
04:11:52,640 --> 04:11:58,220
for today's standards. It's just a matter of creative financing. Let's get it together

2987
04:11:58,220 --> 04:11:59,000
to do it.

2988
04:11:59,440 --> 04:12:00,180
That's all I got to say.

2989
04:12:00,800 --> 04:12:01,340
Thank you, Sam.

2990
04:12:01,420 --> 04:12:02,260
Anybody on the phone, please.

2991
04:12:02,920 --> 04:12:03,220
No chair.

2992
04:12:03,940 --> 04:12:04,480
Come on up, Anthony.

2993
04:12:07,780 --> 04:12:09,620
Anthony Greco, GRECO.

2994
04:12:10,720 --> 04:12:16,920
If I was in charge, I would sit down with everybody we have contracts with and renegotiate

2995
04:12:16,920 --> 04:12:23,120
contracts because the unions cannot force us to bankrupt ourselves.

2996
04:12:24,060 --> 04:12:29,280
So they're going to have to work with us to cut back and make new contracts and not

2997
04:12:29,280 --> 04:12:34,880
That way for them to expire, because we could just tell the unit your services are no longer needed.

2998
04:12:38,610 --> 04:12:39,030
Thank you for that.

2999
04:12:39,190 --> 04:12:39,790
Come on down, Tammy.

3000
04:12:43,630 --> 04:12:46,290
Good afternoon, Tammy, that's the PIT, M-A-N.

3001
04:12:47,170 --> 04:12:57,290
So I know Ms. Tesch can confirm that there is a fund that was made years ago to put money aside every year

3002
04:12:57,290 --> 04:13:05,850
to a crew for when people leave, for separation, vacation, PTO, etc., it has not been funded

3003
04:13:05,850 --> 04:13:09,370
for the last, I don't know how many years because nobody's putting money in it, and I'm

3004
04:13:09,370 --> 04:13:14,210
probably wouldn't doubt if someone's coming out of it, and it's gone to nothing, but there

3005
04:13:14,210 --> 04:13:21,990
was a fund, and the name of it has escaped me, but I have it, and so, yes, so the fund still

3006
04:13:21,990 --> 04:13:27,730
exists. Y'all have to start realizing that you have to put that money in every year or

3007
04:13:27,730 --> 04:13:33,710
you're going to bankrupt us every year. There's no going getting away from it. And when

3008
04:13:34,310 --> 04:13:39,550
we tell our departments, you have x number of dollars to spend instead of saying, oh,

3009
04:13:39,950 --> 04:13:45,090
this is my wish list, I want this much money. Get into it the other way around. This is our

3010
04:13:45,090 --> 04:13:48,830
fixed costs. This is how much money is coming in from.

3011
04:13:48,830 --> 04:13:53,330
The property tax is how much we know what's going to come in from sales tax.

3012
04:13:53,810 --> 04:13:56,670
Say, okay, it orders our fixed costs.

3013
04:13:57,130 --> 04:13:58,490
This is how much this department gets.

3014
04:13:58,570 --> 04:14:00,270
This is department gets, this department gets.

3015
04:14:00,630 --> 04:14:03,850
And one of the fixed costs has to be money going into that account.

3016
04:14:04,350 --> 04:14:07,610
You can't avoid it, or you may as well just close up shop.

3017
04:14:09,490 --> 04:14:11,170
Thanks, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

3018
04:14:11,490 --> 04:14:11,750
No, chair.

3019
04:14:12,090 --> 04:14:13,350
All right, we're going to close public comment.

3020
04:14:15,700 --> 04:14:16,320
Go ahead, Joe.

3021
04:14:18,480 --> 04:14:19,260
I did not.

3022
04:14:20,240 --> 04:14:41,580
I know that we're broke, I know this county is poor, I know that this county is not, that this, this, under funding has been building and building and building for many, many years, but our staffing has not been building the population has been.

3023
04:14:41,580 --> 04:14:46,520
I know I stand up here and say this to you all the time, but we're at the same

3024
04:14:46,520 --> 04:14:51,680
pot, we're at the same staffing level that we were at 10 to 20 years ago. And we

3025
04:14:51,680 --> 04:14:59,800
cannot continue to operate at that level. Right now I realize we don't have any

3026
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:02,420
Open positions, okay? Because they were all taken away.

3027
04:15:05,090 --> 04:15:31,870
That's another issue that needs to be addressed before two terrible long, but can't be addressed today. I just need to know that if I have a person resign or if I terminate a person that I can replace that person, that's all, that's all I'm asking right now. It's a pretty small ask. I just, I mean, I, I, I got an application sent to me from HR. I'm not the right person.

3028
04:15:31,870 --> 04:15:35,750
this morning on my email for a lateral transfer from

3029
04:15:35,750 --> 04:15:39,510
Metro Police. I want to come out here and work.

3030
04:15:40,830 --> 04:15:43,690
He's certified. It would only take a few weeks to

3031
04:15:43,690 --> 04:15:48,010
training him in the way we do things and we could

3032
04:15:48,010 --> 04:15:51,190
get him up and run it. We just need to know that we can hire him or not.

3033
04:15:55,420 --> 04:15:57,860
That's all I'm asking right now. And it's my understanding that

3034
04:15:57,860 --> 04:16:01,220
if there's a position that Joe or Scott or whoever needs

3035
04:16:01,220 --> 04:16:06,380
a fill, they bring an item forward, and this board votes on that position, is that correct?

3036
04:16:06,540 --> 04:16:12,240
With a justification, and I'm going to correct one statement that was just made, that we're

3037
04:16:12,240 --> 04:16:14,500
at the same staffing level as 20 years ago.

3038
04:16:15,300 --> 04:16:21,580
In 2022, I believe we had a nice contract which added 19 positions.

3039
04:16:22,120 --> 04:16:23,820
Those positions have not went away.

3040
04:16:24,280 --> 04:16:24,760
But I did.

3041
04:16:24,960 --> 04:16:27,160
That's far less than 20 years ago, right?

3042
04:16:27,160 --> 04:16:37,600
I completely get it and the bottom line is each of our property taxes has a cap if it's owner-occupied of I believe 3% right so each year

3043
04:16:37,600 --> 04:16:46,360
Each year our property tax goes up 3 more percent which goes into the coffers tell me how much inflation has been

3044
04:16:46,360 --> 04:16:54,300
This is not this is not that is not the whole excuse but we all damn well know when we go fill up our freaking cars

3045
04:16:54,300 --> 04:17:01,440
It does not cost today what it did five years ago, and bread, eggs, anything else.

3046
04:17:02,060 --> 04:17:03,620
So that's also a problem.

3047
04:17:04,400 --> 04:17:11,320
And nobody wants to raise taxes, and everybody wants to cut expenditures which we're going

3048
04:17:11,320 --> 04:17:17,260
to get to your items here very soon, and you're going to let people know what leaps and bounds

3049
04:17:17,260 --> 04:17:20,300
have been made just in the last year and a half.

3050
04:17:20,300 --> 04:17:29,800
So it is a big problem to not raise taxes, understanding that inflation is outpacing our property tax payments.

3051
04:17:30,500 --> 04:17:37,340
I don't like paying taxes, and I sure as heck I'm not going to offer to pay more, but where it is.

3052
04:17:38,580 --> 04:17:42,300
I understand your problem, though, I do, and believe me, I'm not against it.

3053
04:17:42,300 --> 04:17:51,820
But the deficit that we had when Zina came on, you know, whenever we were so freaking

3054
04:17:51,820 --> 04:17:57,580
far upside down, it was pathetic, and they have made amazing strides to get us back.

3055
04:17:58,100 --> 04:18:05,320
Your department was terribly upside down the jail, which we'll get it all taken care

3056
04:18:05,320 --> 04:18:05,500
of.

3057
04:18:05,600 --> 04:18:08,900
It's just, money doesn't fall from the sky.

3058
04:18:08,900 --> 04:18:14,400
So we've got to cut where we can and spend wisely.

3059
04:18:15,580 --> 04:18:16,880
Mr. Chairman, may I very quickly?

3060
04:18:17,000 --> 04:18:17,200
Go ahead.

3061
04:18:17,500 --> 04:18:18,320
I'm going to try to make it quick.

3062
04:18:18,380 --> 04:18:18,780
Thank you.

3063
04:18:19,300 --> 04:18:22,700
I guess I'm just, if we have no open positions, I guess I just don't.

3064
04:18:23,100 --> 04:18:24,720
I understand it's another step.

3065
04:18:24,960 --> 04:18:28,040
But if that's what everyone wants is to go before the board and ask for the justification,

3066
04:18:28,660 --> 04:18:30,140
what is the problem with that, I guess?

3067
04:18:30,440 --> 04:18:33,540
And I'm not, I'm not trying to study what for failure and say how I feel.

3068
04:18:33,540 --> 04:18:35,400
But what, what is the sticking point?

3069
04:18:35,400 --> 04:18:40,040
is to why can't we just say hey we have an open position and then just go

3070
04:18:40,040 --> 04:18:42,920
before that we have these meetings I feel like they're like they're every day

3071
04:18:42,920 --> 04:18:47,000
and honestly they're like every two weeks and we keep adding them so I'm not

3072
04:18:47,000 --> 04:18:52,620
trying to push back but I just I don't understand the difference functionally

3073
04:18:53,060 --> 04:18:57,560
from a management standpoint of asking for the justification form so that we

3074
04:18:57,560 --> 04:19:00,140
get the justification form so there's no other department heads that are mad

3075
04:19:00,140 --> 04:19:04,580
that they don't have to one department doesn't and the other does in the event

3076
04:19:04,580 --> 04:19:08,220
I think that we just approve of everything that's given to us as far as any first responder positions.

3077
04:19:08,540 --> 04:19:10,580
I guess I just don't understand what the difference is.

3078
04:19:10,600 --> 04:19:14,300
Is there a difference between not having a freeze and having to come before us?

3079
04:19:14,960 --> 04:19:15,520
Does anyone know?

3080
04:19:16,120 --> 04:19:25,960
The problem commissioners last time we were here, there didn't seem to be a consensus between all as to whether we were frozen.

3081
04:19:26,220 --> 04:19:30,460
Sheriff, you know why that position cannot be filled.

3082
04:19:30,460 --> 04:19:37,540
that position. Yes, I understand. But we had we had a dispatcher position that was denied us

3083
04:19:38,860 --> 04:19:44,140
because there wasn't no consensus as to whether we were under a freezer or not.

3084
04:19:44,840 --> 04:19:52,860
You did come back? Oh, we said no. You come back with a justification form just like anybody else does.

3085
04:19:53,240 --> 04:19:57,220
When you're presented to the commissioners, they need to know what they're saying yes to.

3086
04:19:57,220 --> 04:19:59,960
They need to know that there's money to cover it.

3087
04:20:00,210 --> 04:20:15,530
That's all that's being required. You need to represent what that item wouldn't even be considered at the last time we were here because nobody knew whether we were under a freeze or not.

3088
04:20:21,260 --> 04:20:30,720
So there's a form that we have to fill out of office of sheriff or whatever it is, I want to dispatch her and then it gets presented.

3089
04:20:30,980 --> 04:20:39,420
I mean, I'll sponsor your stuff if you want, I'm just trying to understand why I didn't vote on a dispatcher position.

3090
04:20:39,600 --> 04:20:43,120
Did you, did anyone, I don't want to remember that, no one up here remembers a dispatcher position.

3091
04:20:43,380 --> 04:20:44,800
Did you put it on the agenda?

3092
04:20:45,720 --> 04:20:52,980
And not to overstep here, but sheriff, you're not wrong, that freeze was confusing.

3093
04:20:53,760 --> 04:20:58,220
But it wasn't necessarily as confusing as it may have sounded, because it wasn't set

3094
04:20:58,220 --> 04:20:59,440
to be a forever freeze.

3095
04:21:00,640 --> 04:21:08,400
Zena had a task at hand to try to get our stuff in order, balanced budget, uh-huh, adopt.

3096
04:21:08,400 --> 04:21:19,000
And so the freeze was introduced for that period of time and after July, whatever, the new fiscal year, right?

3097
04:21:19,720 --> 04:21:25,300
Any items or any positions that you need or Scott needs or whoever needs, bring him forward.

3098
04:21:25,940 --> 04:21:27,900
If we can figure out how to do it.

3099
04:21:29,420 --> 04:21:31,980
I guess my question is, I would like an answer.

3100
04:21:32,280 --> 04:21:35,300
What is the difference between, I don't want a freeze.

3101
04:21:35,300 --> 04:21:40,220
But if all the county manager wants us a little form filled out, is that correct?

3102
04:21:40,860 --> 04:21:41,320
County manager?

3103
04:21:41,840 --> 04:21:48,000
Yes, and I want the cost of the decision you're going to be made.

3104
04:21:48,580 --> 04:21:55,820
I want you guys to be aware of that so you can make an educated decision because those forms go through,

3105
04:21:56,420 --> 04:22:01,440
I'm sorry, the forms go through finance, they go through HR.

3106
04:22:01,440 --> 04:22:08,080
HR costs out what that position is going to be if it's a lateral, sometimes we

3107
04:22:08,080 --> 04:22:14,440
hire them in at a step three instead of a step one. They're hired in at a

3108
04:22:14,440 --> 04:22:18,880
little higher cost. They might be replacing the step one position that

3109
04:22:18,880 --> 04:22:26,100
vacated. So there's research and information that goes into those forms that

3110
04:22:26,100 --> 04:22:33,160
goes into the back up so you guys see exactly what it's going to cost and if we budget it

3111
04:22:33,160 --> 04:22:39,320
forward or if we're having to add to the budget or et cetera go ahead you're just concerned

3112
04:22:39,320 --> 04:22:42,500
that something's just going to be done and no one's going to know about it and all of a sudden

3113
04:22:42,500 --> 04:22:48,440
here's a new guy no that's not what it is because I've got to get rid of the ban I mean my point is

3114
04:22:48,440 --> 04:22:52,880
if we got rid of this whatever ban going on the concern from county management is just all of a

3115
04:22:52,880 --> 04:22:56,640
and here's Deputy Jones, he just shows up and nobody knows about him, but he's already

3116
04:22:56,640 --> 04:22:57,300
being put through.

3117
04:22:57,440 --> 04:22:58,120
Is that the concern?

3118
04:22:58,560 --> 04:22:59,580
Is things just getting put through?

3119
04:23:00,080 --> 04:23:00,500
No.

3120
04:23:01,100 --> 04:23:05,260
The concern is the cost and zenist task of getting us back on track.

3121
04:23:06,300 --> 04:23:07,500
Which we're going to hear.

3122
04:23:07,660 --> 04:23:13,240
There's no difference effectively between just going through this process and putting these

3123
04:23:13,240 --> 04:23:14,580
forms of all the stuff in it.

3124
04:23:15,840 --> 04:23:18,000
And let me refresh this.

3125
04:23:18,640 --> 04:23:21,460
If we made the decision, we're just going to prove everything for the sheriff.

3126
04:23:21,460 --> 04:23:27,520
Is there any difference between effectively between just going through this process and then just

3127
04:23:28,220 --> 04:23:33,580
Like getting rid of the freeze for the sheriff. I guess I'm just struggling. I still am struggling to see the difference

3128
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:42,180
Well, I don't think the freeze currently is the same freeze that we had last fiscal year because it was a hard and

3129
04:23:44,260 --> 04:23:45,300
No, right

3130
04:23:45,300 --> 04:23:48,800
The sheriff's department has a certain amount of money.

3131
04:23:50,420 --> 04:23:51,960
The sheriff's department.

3132
04:23:53,200 --> 04:23:54,320
Go ahead, Commissioner.

3133
04:23:55,660 --> 04:23:56,220
Thank you.

3134
04:23:58,130 --> 04:24:06,200
I see what Commissioner Bain is saying is that look, if we lift the freeze on the sheriff's office,

3135
04:24:08,930 --> 04:24:12,730
we're going to approve it, we know what it's going to cost.

3136
04:24:12,730 --> 04:24:20,470
If you want a form to come before us, you want the sheriff to formally come before us, we're going to approve it.

3137
04:24:20,630 --> 04:24:21,750
It's a first responder.

3138
04:24:22,530 --> 04:24:25,290
Okay, it's a necessary position.

3139
04:24:26,270 --> 04:24:31,070
Then why are we continuously talking about a freeze?

3140
04:24:32,770 --> 04:24:40,270
What nobody has brought up, and I'll bring it up, is we want this form, we want this justification form.

3141
04:24:40,270 --> 04:24:59,450
We all know that we need the first responders out there to protect and serve all of the first responders about over time how much over time because of the freeze has been spent in the sheriff's office because it's necessary to have them out.

3142
04:25:00,000 --> 04:25:29,900
On the street, assisting, protecting, serving, taking care of all of these pertinent issues that we're talking about and we're so concerned about, rightfully so. So, over $350,000. It's in the backup. But we don't want to address the over time because there's a freeze. So, if there's a freeze, I'll just issue over time to my officers. And I'll get

3143
04:25:29,900 --> 04:25:36,340
it done. So thank you, Sheriff, because you're making that command decision to get it done.

3144
04:25:37,680 --> 04:25:42,500
But now you're coming before us to say, I want clarification because I don't want to have to

3145
04:25:42,500 --> 04:25:47,940
make this command decision each and every week and month when I get a transfer request.

3146
04:25:49,200 --> 04:25:55,120
The Sheriff will tell you that Commissioner Bain and I, we were confused and we asked

3147
04:25:55,120 --> 04:26:00,560
Alona, the Director of HR, to please clarify, was here in Chambers, here in Tonapak.

3148
04:26:01,760 --> 04:26:07,180
We can't possibly be seriously thinking about a freeze on the Sheriff's Office or the

3149
04:26:07,180 --> 04:26:16,320
Fire Department, or EMS, and the response was, oh no, no freeze for them, but it wasn't in

3150
04:26:16,320 --> 04:26:20,160
the backup, it wasn't clear, so there was once again confusion.

3151
04:26:23,370 --> 04:26:30,830
We, we as, as not to pick on you, Susie, she said, we need to get our act together.

3152
04:26:32,150 --> 04:26:37,170
We need to put all of the facts together when making these decisions over

3153
04:26:40,180 --> 04:26:41,480
time, considerable

3154
04:26:41,480 --> 04:26:46,860
amount of money and a freeze on, on a few deputies, a dispatcher.

3155
04:26:48,480 --> 04:26:49,600
This is what he's asking.

3156
04:26:49,800 --> 04:26:55,700
So, Sheriff, I'm going to wait to hear for the final decision from all of us, but what

3157
04:26:55,700 --> 04:27:01,360
What I'm hearing, the message is, is that come before us, get those, get those justification

3158
04:27:01,360 --> 04:27:10,640
forms ready, get them ready, back date them, present them, they're gonna be approved, okay?

3159
04:27:11,700 --> 04:27:14,240
You want more deputies, you're gonna get more deputies.

3160
04:27:14,940 --> 04:27:17,780
Get those forms ready, because I'm ready to sign off on them.

3161
04:27:19,720 --> 04:27:21,000
Mr. Chair, I appreciate that.

3162
04:27:21,120 --> 04:27:26,820
I just want to call to your attention and line one of my item that says regarding Claire

3163
04:27:28,220 --> 04:27:31,620
verification on a scope and intent of the current hiring freeze.

3164
04:27:31,980 --> 04:27:32,720
That's why I'm here.

3165
04:27:33,380 --> 04:27:34,660
It was confusing.

3166
04:27:35,720 --> 04:27:38,180
I couldn't get the same answer from two different people.

3167
04:27:38,960 --> 04:27:41,120
Can I say quick, but I know you're on a lag here.

3168
04:27:41,600 --> 04:27:43,280
Is Harry means in the room somewhere?

3169
04:27:44,500 --> 04:27:45,020
Can we look around?

3170
04:27:45,220 --> 04:27:45,880
Yes, he's here.

3171
04:27:46,700 --> 04:27:48,260
Can he step up real quick and I can't listen?

3172
04:27:48,360 --> 04:27:49,300
Well, I think he can answer this.

3173
04:27:49,380 --> 04:27:49,760
I really do.

3174
04:27:50,700 --> 04:27:52,380
Mr. Means, can you step up and do this very quickly?

3175
04:27:52,680 --> 04:27:54,440
Just, I am just curious about this one question,

3176
04:27:54,440 --> 04:28:01,020
because it will bother me. I'll never know the answer. I feel like I'm speaking like a different. I've never spoken a different language, but this is the closest that come.

3177
04:28:02,000 --> 04:28:03,400
Do you have to spell his name?

3178
04:28:04,800 --> 04:28:05,160
What do you mean?

3179
04:28:05,440 --> 04:28:05,820
What do you mean?

3180
04:28:06,520 --> 04:28:07,460
Interim HR director.

3181
04:28:07,700 --> 04:28:11,080
So can you explain because you were a captain for a long time.

3182
04:28:11,680 --> 04:28:12,500
I think you still are legally.

3183
04:28:13,580 --> 04:28:14,680
What is the difference?

3184
04:28:15,360 --> 04:28:18,920
If we don't have anything open right now, it's being held up and I thought there was.

3185
04:28:19,740 --> 04:28:25,860
What is the difference effectively between just making a sheriff's office just fall out this wacky farm that we all look is I'm gonna

3186
04:28:25,860 --> 04:28:31,920
I'm gonna vote for every single sheriff position that is being asked for I mean everyone knows this in town probably

3187
04:28:31,920 --> 04:28:37,960
What is the difference between that and let's say I'll win but what is the difference in just making that form be filled out in

3188
04:28:38,580 --> 04:28:43,380
Unfreezing all the difference so yeah, we're talking two different things

3189
04:28:43,860 --> 04:28:45,820
The form gets filled up for every department

3190
04:28:45,820 --> 04:29:00,640
We have not had a form come through or position come through since me taking over HR, but prior to me taking over HR, when I was at the sheriff's office, we would submit the form, it would go through the entire process, and it never came before the B.O.C.C.

3191
04:29:01,500 --> 04:29:12,640
And that's been since the hiring freeze, which is not really, I think we're talking to different things and people are talking about adding more positions and just filling positions that have become vacated during this year.

3192
04:29:15,080 --> 04:29:18,840
It doesn't get before us. Where does it go? We don't know where it went.

3193
04:29:19,060 --> 04:29:19,720
It just gets approved.

3194
04:29:20,600 --> 04:29:24,920
It used to be an administrative decision by the county manager.

3195
04:29:25,660 --> 04:29:29,760
Yes, so it goes through HR, writes their numbers and finance says we have enough money.

3196
04:29:30,280 --> 04:29:32,760
It goes to the county manager, county manager reviews all of that.

3197
04:29:32,980 --> 04:29:34,660
It gets approved. It can be filled.

3198
04:29:34,980 --> 04:29:35,160
Good, good.

3199
04:29:35,640 --> 04:29:36,140
We have not.

3200
04:29:36,320 --> 04:29:41,020
County manager, do you have a problem with going back to that or do you want it to go before us?

3201
04:29:41,020 --> 04:29:41,440
Is that correct?

3202
04:29:42,160 --> 04:29:44,400
Well, do we need to know how to pay for it, too?

3203
04:29:45,860 --> 04:29:49,740
We need the cost and part of the issue has been,

3204
04:29:49,740 --> 04:29:53,020
and that's part of what the next item is that we'll get to,

3205
04:29:53,400 --> 04:29:57,520
is the justification forms have gotten very lax,

3206
04:29:57,640 --> 04:29:59,460
not just with Sheriff's Department.

3207
04:29:59,460 --> 04:29:59,680
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

3208
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:28,040
But all departments. So we're trying to get things back in line. So you guys know what you're making decisions on. And you guys are up to date in real time. What budget? Terry issues there are. It's not to prevent hiring or filling vacant positions in the sheriff's department. All it is is trying to make sure we know what we're doing. If we have an employee that leads that we have to pay out $200,000

3209
04:30:28,040 --> 04:30:36,060
dollars in accruals, we need to try to realize that back somehow, and that's all it is,

3210
04:30:36,180 --> 04:30:39,120
is to give us a time to calculate that out.

3211
04:30:41,850 --> 04:30:43,990
Okay, can we try this method?

3212
04:30:44,790 --> 04:30:48,010
Was the sheriff's office okay with us trying this method?

3213
04:30:48,630 --> 04:30:50,510
And then, because right now there's nothing open, is that correct?

3214
04:30:50,650 --> 04:30:52,810
Is there anything open that we want to fill with the sheriff's office?

3215
04:30:54,450 --> 04:30:57,370
There is currently nothing open right now, that is correct.

3216
04:30:57,370 --> 04:31:00,570
and to address something that County Manager mentioned.

3217
04:31:00,970 --> 04:31:04,190
Yeah, I missed a position justification for him recently.

3218
04:31:04,650 --> 04:31:05,130
Yeah, I did.

3219
04:31:05,710 --> 04:31:07,150
So as it was brought to my attention,

3220
04:31:07,270 --> 04:31:09,410
I think it was sent through that same day.

3221
04:31:12,210 --> 04:31:14,410
But I'm not trying to beat you up, man, I really am not.

3222
04:31:14,630 --> 04:31:16,390
I just want, because everyone seems really upset

3223
04:31:16,390 --> 04:31:17,750
about this, it has nothing to do with you.

3224
04:31:18,290 --> 04:31:19,910
I just, if everyone really wants this form

3225
04:31:19,910 --> 04:31:21,150
and really wants to have this discussion,

3226
04:31:21,430 --> 04:31:22,830
I'm going to vote yes and all your guys.

3227
04:31:23,110 --> 04:31:24,590
And he's probably going to vote yes and all your guys.

3228
04:31:24,970 --> 04:31:26,250
So maybe just do it their way

3229
04:31:26,250 --> 04:31:29,010
so that we don't have this fight that seems to be non-stop.

3230
04:31:29,070 --> 04:31:31,810
I'm doing it their way because I know that that's their way.

3231
04:31:32,410 --> 04:31:33,230
Like I said, I miss it.

3232
04:31:33,230 --> 04:31:35,170
How come it's their way? It's policy.

3233
04:31:36,490 --> 04:31:38,090
Right. It's policy. That's all right.

3234
04:31:38,210 --> 04:31:38,690
That's fine.

3235
04:31:39,810 --> 04:31:43,830
I will say, Brett, I realize we have a meeting tomorrow on this one

3236
04:31:45,570 --> 04:31:49,490
and right now we don't think we're quite seeing eye to eye on it

3237
04:31:49,970 --> 04:31:51,670
but the decision will be made.

3238
04:31:52,090 --> 04:31:53,870
But what if that one has to wait

3239
04:31:53,870 --> 04:31:57,330
And a year and a half or two years for a arbitration.

3240
04:31:58,050 --> 04:32:00,770
Do we continue to leave that position empty?

3241
04:32:01,270 --> 04:32:10,770
We have to, we have to, because if an arbitration resulted in having to take that person back, we have to have a position for him to go into.

3242
04:32:11,470 --> 04:32:14,890
Plus we have to pay for all the time they were not at work.

3243
04:32:15,230 --> 04:32:16,930
So that money can't be spent.

3244
04:32:16,970 --> 04:32:19,550
Yeah, that's one less person that we have on the street.

3245
04:32:21,850 --> 04:32:26,590
I don't know, I mean how do you solve this problem in business you have to set the money

3246
04:32:26,590 --> 04:32:27,010
aside?

3247
04:32:28,910 --> 04:32:30,550
Yeah, that's the problem.

3248
04:32:30,750 --> 04:32:38,010
Sure, if we can't allocate that money until this is settled, to pay somebody else.

3249
04:32:38,970 --> 04:32:46,650
We could if we had that fund funded, well the old fund, I mean that money tree and we'll

3250
04:32:46,650 --> 04:32:47,330
fund it tomorrow.

3251
04:32:47,330 --> 04:32:52,390
right to check and we're trying it we're trying that that is just so you know

3252
04:32:52,390 --> 04:32:58,130
to and the audience knows the what the what was adopted in this year's budget

3253
04:32:58,130 --> 04:33:03,730
does start to put money into that fun like it should have been doing for years

3254
04:33:03,730 --> 04:33:09,390
you know so we are definitely going to be in better shape hopefully by the end of

3255
04:33:09,390 --> 04:33:15,230
the year and then if we can not have to tap into it too far you know hopefully it

3256
04:33:15,230 --> 04:33:20,370
I'll just continue to grow to where it won't be a factor anymore, you know, when somebody

3257
04:33:20,370 --> 04:33:23,210
retires or resigns,

3258
04:33:25,640 --> 04:33:27,760
but should I actually close in remark thing?

3259
04:33:28,060 --> 04:33:29,620
I wasn't impressionally at open positions.

3260
04:33:30,080 --> 04:33:32,860
I would like to know if there are open positions within the Sheriff's office.

3261
04:33:33,080 --> 04:33:36,540
I will do my best to make sure that I know and then go from there.

3262
04:33:36,560 --> 04:33:40,720
So that's how I feel about this and I will, you know, let it be there.

3263
04:33:43,080 --> 04:33:43,740
All right.

3264
04:33:48,590 --> 04:33:48,690
Yeah.

3265
04:33:48,750 --> 04:33:50,210
Look, can we finish this item?

3266
04:33:50,410 --> 04:33:51,230
Let me take a break.

3267
04:33:51,930 --> 04:34:02,010
I think we're clear or are we frozen or not frozen you don't have any open positions if I have if I have a position open tomorrow.

3268
04:34:02,410 --> 04:34:04,010
That's something totally different.

3269
04:34:04,170 --> 04:34:08,710
Then turn an agenda item in and get it on the next available agenda.

3270
04:34:08,710 --> 04:34:12,590
I'm not going to get stopped. Turn over the little form, whatever it is.

3271
04:34:12,830 --> 04:34:16,730
Okay, that's what I was asking for is clarification.

3272
04:34:16,730 --> 04:34:28,050
We get it. It was confusing. You're not wrong. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. All right, so let's take ten. Please

3273
04:35:03,700 --> 04:35:13,200
Is that a flood camera? Yeah, just set it up while we're on break. Just kidding. Just kidding.

3274
04:35:25,170 --> 04:35:28,970
All right, guys, let's get to number 20, please.

3275
04:35:33,320 --> 04:35:47,900
Item 20 presentation by Paul Lehmist regarding water and property management at the Ashtonettos Wildlife Refuge five-minute time limit, and I want to bring to your attention. The video is over six minutes. I already talked to Paul. We're good.

3276
04:35:49,400 --> 04:35:50,700
Okay, wait five minutes.

3277
04:35:51,040 --> 04:35:52,860
John, we'll start your timer whenever you're ready.

3278
04:35:53,420 --> 04:35:55,300
Yes, first thing I wanted to point out,

3279
04:35:55,300 --> 04:35:57,120
and I'm not going to be able to use this mic when I have to.

3280
04:35:59,420 --> 04:36:00,460
Do I have to be on?

3281
04:36:01,400 --> 04:36:02,680
I think I need a wireless one.

3282
04:36:03,240 --> 04:36:04,480
Let me see if I can turn on this one.

3283
04:36:04,860 --> 04:36:05,980
Can I swing this one a little bit?

3284
04:36:07,020 --> 04:36:09,060
Okay, guys, so this is the important thing.

3285
04:36:09,540 --> 04:36:11,900
This is the proposed concept right now

3286
04:36:11,900 --> 04:36:14,160
for the national conservation area.

3287
04:36:14,340 --> 04:36:15,120
This is the mapping.

3288
04:36:15,820 --> 04:36:18,500
And they're claiming that this could protect our lands.

3289
04:36:18,500 --> 04:36:21,040
But I want you to look at the distinct factor.

3290
04:36:21,260 --> 04:36:26,160
You see this bottom line right here, it's not straight, it's wavy, it's curvy.

3291
04:36:26,500 --> 04:36:27,680
That's a water line.

3292
04:36:27,680 --> 04:36:31,900
That's also one of our main drainage lines in our hydrological mapping.

3293
04:36:32,500 --> 04:36:35,240
If you look at the wrong one, yes, ma'am.

3294
04:36:35,400 --> 04:36:38,420
The chair is being asked by Mr. DeBoral.

3295
04:36:38,680 --> 04:36:40,020
Excuse me, chair, manager.

3296
04:36:40,420 --> 04:36:43,780
Do we have copies of this presentation up here on Donabelle?

3297
04:36:43,860 --> 04:36:47,160
I have emailed copies to all your emails, I believe.

3298
04:36:47,160 --> 04:36:49,380
if not, I can get you one right away, sir.

3299
04:36:49,740 --> 04:36:51,960
We should go with the presentation that you have.

3300
04:36:52,100 --> 04:36:53,460
And can I give you the presentation,

3301
04:36:53,720 --> 04:36:56,500
and then give back up to you?

3302
04:36:56,500 --> 04:36:58,260
No, the presentation you have on your laptop.

3303
04:36:58,520 --> 04:36:59,420
Yes, yes, yes, I can.

3304
04:36:59,820 --> 04:37:02,260
OK, one last quick piece of the puzzle,

3305
04:37:02,260 --> 04:37:03,820
and then I'll cut right off.

3306
04:37:04,080 --> 04:37:06,320
Because this is the main water line

3307
04:37:06,320 --> 04:37:07,860
into Perump and Johnny Nevada.

3308
04:37:08,680 --> 04:37:11,400
So what they're trying to do is kind of encompass the land

3309
04:37:11,400 --> 04:37:15,880
over even your guys in Perump and Amargosa's water line and land.

3310
04:37:15,880 --> 04:37:20,640
Now, well, there's applications right now for just a proposal.

3311
04:37:20,640 --> 04:37:22,640
The way it was written was for proposal.

3312
04:37:23,360 --> 04:37:26,180
But they started acting after the proposal.

3313
04:37:26,340 --> 04:37:26,940
So we get into that.

3314
04:37:27,040 --> 04:37:27,320
I got to go.

3315
04:37:27,400 --> 04:37:27,560
Okay.

3316
04:37:27,620 --> 04:37:28,300
Presentation guys.

3317
04:37:28,460 --> 04:37:29,200
Thank you very much.

3318
04:37:29,920 --> 04:37:30,960
Please excuse me.

3319
04:37:32,160 --> 04:37:33,420
Thank you, Mr. Limus.

3320
04:37:34,480 --> 04:37:35,420
Oh, he's got fire.

3321
04:37:35,460 --> 04:37:38,520
Here's where they got the type of line that they're doing here.

3322
04:37:38,720 --> 04:37:39,400
No, we have four.

3323
04:37:39,680 --> 04:37:40,060
It's up.

3324
04:37:44,540 --> 04:37:46,500
These are the water lines right here in Ashmetos

3325
04:37:46,880 --> 04:37:48,600
where they're draining crystal reservoir now.

3326
04:37:48,600 --> 04:37:51,960
Now they're pumping it over the top and into and out into the valley.

3327
04:37:52,380 --> 04:38:00,540
It's going into our horseshoe right now, which has left a lot of the fish and frogs and turtles dying on the ground as they dump most solos.

3328
04:38:00,780 --> 04:38:08,420
They've washed it out into their mouth, and locked it right now, not safe, not secure, and they're going to be there for even more than two years.

3329
04:38:08,680 --> 04:38:15,280
And several conservancies that are all working together now that the Conservancy Fund has hit for over 400 million.

3330
04:38:15,860 --> 04:38:22,140
There's been a lot of these conservancies all trying to group up and kind of come after some of the area where our protected lands are.

3331
04:38:22,600 --> 04:38:30,440
Right now, our area of our private properties, which we have a subdivision called little Nevada subdivision, there's over 243 residential lots in there.

3332
04:38:30,780 --> 04:38:36,780
None of those owners were notified that they wanted to come in and put their encountering map over our private properties.

3333
04:38:37,160 --> 04:38:40,780
I believe there's also something like 800 mining claims throughout that area.

3334
04:38:41,160 --> 04:38:42,860
None of those people have been notified yet.

3335
04:38:42,860 --> 04:38:47,240
So we're here today trying to just make you aware of what's going on.

3336
04:38:47,320 --> 04:38:50,800
And we're asking that you kind of go hopefully against the conservancy.

3337
04:38:50,960 --> 04:38:56,900
I also have a, this is a Amargosa Conservancy that is applying right now.

3338
04:38:57,540 --> 04:39:04,380
But the Ceecent Assist Letter that I've kind of wanted the commissioners to consider signing has

3339
04:39:04,380 --> 04:39:10,880
Ceecent Assist to all different conservancies and any new ones that step up with the same plan

3340
04:39:10,880 --> 04:39:13,040
to try and take our private properties and land.

3341
04:39:13,660 --> 04:39:15,780
So this would make them financially responsible.

3342
04:39:15,780 --> 04:39:18,800
Give us an instrument to record on our deeds, to protect our properties.

3343
04:39:19,340 --> 04:39:23,120
And so all we're trying to do is buy some time right now, since we found out that this

3344
04:39:23,120 --> 04:39:28,680
emergency is going on, whatever's in that, the scientific doctors showed up on Saturday.

3345
04:39:28,860 --> 04:39:31,460
There's definitely dust and contaminants in there.

3346
04:39:31,600 --> 04:39:33,880
Since the water is out, that's went airborne.

3347
04:39:34,260 --> 04:39:37,420
So a lot of the breathing things that we've been experiencing over the last year,

3348
04:39:37,420 --> 04:39:43,540
is could be and associated with this project that they're doing to kind of dismantle our

3349
04:39:43,540 --> 04:39:44,200
Ash Meadows.

3350
04:39:44,380 --> 04:39:49,000
They started with mud reservoir, knocked that down, rerouted Peterson, and cut it off

3351
04:39:49,000 --> 04:39:50,500
through the Fuentes property.

3352
04:39:51,120 --> 04:39:54,860
And then this is our old reservoir here, this is what it used to look like, how beautiful

3353
04:39:54,860 --> 04:39:55,300
it was.

3354
04:39:55,840 --> 04:39:57,860
And then they're purposely draining it as the thing.

3355
04:39:57,860 --> 04:39:58,160
and it's

3356
04:40:00,000 --> 04:40:29,960
All live and the fish. And then as they dump it each time over and over, it just floods out into the desert and you're left seeing the dead fish on the ground, which will be here in a little bit. So we've documented all of this. We also have biologists. We have a full scientific truck that came out. They did air sniffer. They did soil samples. They did a radiation testing with a Geiger counter, but the main thing associated with this is the waters vested in the

3357
04:40:29,960 --> 04:40:35,840
people under NRS 533 and it says in there that no NCA or government

3358
04:40:35,840 --> 04:40:38,840
should have any ownership of that water ever. That's the law.

3359
04:40:39,460 --> 04:40:44,960
The thing that's important for staff today to consider is the violations that

3360
04:40:44,960 --> 04:40:48,740
were made in the way this project has been submitted so far. It was only a

3361
04:40:48,740 --> 04:40:52,400
presentation, permission to do a presentation and now we're looking at

3362
04:40:52,400 --> 04:40:58,100
violation 241021 which is public scoping. The public scoping happened on

3363
04:40:58,100 --> 04:41:06,440
June 11th. And this was passed by the Town Board March 26th. So they passed it to only do the

3364
04:41:06,440 --> 04:41:10,120
presentation, but then move forward to ask the Board of County Commissioners to sign

3365
04:41:10,120 --> 04:41:19,760
to approve the concept and the proposal for it on May 5th. So then Jabor back that out on May 19th

3366
04:41:19,760 --> 04:41:24,100
and said, no, we're not going to move forward with this letter. So they wanted to come to you and ask

3367
04:41:24,100 --> 04:41:30,060
It's for a letter to basically have an excuse to come after our properties and move forward without the presentation.

3368
04:41:30,380 --> 04:41:35,680
I don't know why they're here to even talk against us because we haven't even given them permission yet to do the presentation.

3369
04:41:35,780 --> 04:41:40,360
The public scoping had six people against it and only three for it.

3370
04:41:40,580 --> 04:41:46,580
So I think that the people have already spoken at that point and said that they do not want the national conservation area.

3371
04:41:46,840 --> 04:41:49,040
We haven't notified any of those homeowners.

3372
04:41:49,040 --> 04:41:55,160
And it's a very risky situation to put them all at risk with eminent domain or

3373
04:41:55,160 --> 04:41:56,580
possible adverse possession.

3374
04:41:56,720 --> 04:42:01,880
Our job as county officials is to protect adverse possession claims for our people.

3375
04:42:02,380 --> 04:42:11,920
So 241-010 and 241-036 is what this board would be violating if we did not consider just voiding it.

3376
04:42:12,180 --> 04:42:16,640
Because 241 actually says it's voided already by I'm doing the scoping backwards.

3377
04:42:16,940 --> 04:42:18,080
Thank you very much.

3378
04:42:18,080 --> 04:42:20,120
thank you. Okay.

3379
04:42:23,360 --> 04:42:26,860
Now back to where we were 13, please.

3380
04:42:30,360 --> 04:42:34,400
Hey, hey, Paul, can you email me

3381
04:42:34,400 --> 04:42:38,300
the video please? It's like I'm watching the whole thing. Go ahead.

3382
04:42:45,660 --> 04:42:49,780
Okay. Thank you. 13, please.

3383
04:42:50,540 --> 04:42:57,100
Item 13 for possible action discussion and deliberation to adopt amended adopt or reject

3384
04:42:57,100 --> 04:43:00,700
I'm going to select night County Resolution number 2026-16.

3385
04:43:01,320 --> 04:43:04,700
Resolution adopting the position evaluation policy.

3386
04:43:06,260 --> 04:43:08,820
Okay, thank you for that. Who's speaking on this one?

3387
04:43:10,790 --> 04:43:12,360
Mr. Chair, this is Lorina.

3388
04:43:12,740 --> 04:43:13,160
Hi, Lorina.

3389
04:43:13,840 --> 04:43:19,580
Hello. This item is already partially in place.

3390
04:43:19,720 --> 04:43:26,500
Over the years, the board has approved the position justification form.

3391
04:43:26,500 --> 04:43:33,300
they've we've gone back and forth and it all is heavily contingent on our budget on whether or not the

3392
04:43:34,460 --> 04:43:39,960
approvals go through county manager just as director means mentioned earlier in an earlier item

3393
04:43:39,960 --> 04:43:47,880
or they come back to the board as the county manager identified so that way the board

3394
04:43:47,880 --> 04:43:55,220
is aware of our financials when it comes to these positions so this is just to

3395
04:43:55,220 --> 04:43:58,640
would add a couple more pieces to that justification.

3396
04:44:00,060 --> 04:44:00,700
Okay,

3397
04:44:04,220 --> 04:44:05,460
I'm sure we have anything for.

3398
04:44:05,760 --> 04:44:07,800
What are the couple more pieces, please?

3399
04:44:09,020 --> 04:44:12,360
In the policy itself, so on page.

3400
04:44:16,380 --> 04:44:22,600
Well, page one of the actual policy, but it's page six of your actual item.

3401
04:44:23,300 --> 04:44:26,560
There's a section 1.3 called required documentation.

3402
04:44:27,200 --> 04:44:32,020
and this is really focused on new positions that will come before the board,

3403
04:44:34,360 --> 04:44:43,740
but there can be data that could be requested of our department heads when they're requesting reclassifications, for example.

3404
04:44:47,090 --> 04:44:52,930
Okay. All right. Let's see if we have any public comment on this item. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

3405
04:44:55,560 --> 04:44:58,300
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spoiler your name.

3406
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:01,100
Item.

3407
04:45:09,690 --> 04:45:10,570
That's good.

3408
04:45:16,470 --> 04:45:30,970
You're. I just want to point out the elephant in the room. You know the reduction side of. You're confident you know, the hardest thing to do is get an administrative ego to freeze. Good luck with it.

3409
04:45:38,340 --> 04:45:40,080
Tammy, do you want to, are you ready?

3410
04:45:40,940 --> 04:45:41,400
Oh, you're good.

3411
04:45:43,490 --> 04:45:50,810
Tammy Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, as a 30, 40, I don't know how many years now, H-R person,

3412
04:45:54,570 --> 04:46:00,350
great addition, I think it should be used for every position that's current in place

3413
04:46:00,350 --> 04:46:04,230
as well as new positions so that you all can make the best decisions.

3414
04:46:04,510 --> 04:46:04,790
Thank you.

3415
04:46:05,210 --> 04:46:05,830
Thank you, Sam.

3416
04:46:05,970 --> 04:46:06,730
Anybody on the phone, please?

3417
04:46:07,550 --> 04:46:11,250
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

3418
04:46:14,700 --> 04:46:23,460
Tim Bohen and B-O-H-A-N-N-O-N. Cost justification is always a requirement when we're talking

3419
04:46:23,460 --> 04:46:24,140
about finance.

3420
04:46:26,400 --> 04:46:31,780
It's important. The value that we gain from that is that the carbon

3421
04:46:31,780 --> 04:46:39,920
Eds and leaders are doing cost benefits, cost of justification, and while they're doing that,

3422
04:46:40,180 --> 04:46:47,460
looking for efficiency. Now that often gets overlooked in many, many certain. But the efficiency

3423
04:46:47,460 --> 04:46:48,680
is health effectiveness.

3424
04:46:51,150 --> 04:46:54,910
Don't chop it so much where you can get the job done, but the addition

3425
04:46:54,910 --> 04:47:02,510
what you do, the wise and what you do, and wisely, then there are money wisely. You get a summary

3426
04:47:02,510 --> 04:47:05,830
come on down in front please.

3427
04:47:10,560 --> 04:47:15,720
Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON. And if I'm out mistaken

3428
04:47:15,720 --> 04:47:22,620
as the HR director that is here. If we could pull up transparent Nevada so we

3429
04:47:22,620 --> 04:47:28,200
could see the salaries that are paid out and I think that we are all owed a

3430
04:47:29,640 --> 04:47:35,640
explanation of why those salaries are paid out and to show the work that has

3431
04:47:35,640 --> 04:47:41,420
been done by any of them. We have, I don't know how many people in B&G that there's nothing

3432
04:47:41,420 --> 04:47:47,660
to show for any employee that's done work. There's no roads fix, there's nothing. There's

3433
04:47:47,660 --> 04:47:55,380
nothing to show for it. And since we're talking about salaries, there needs to be somebody

3434
04:47:55,380 --> 04:48:02,920
that's looking into this and not just throwing money out and paying administrative assistance

3435
04:48:03,820 --> 04:48:05,300
$160,000 a year.

3436
04:48:06,180 --> 04:48:08,960
And no, that's not the basis with their benefits package,

3437
04:48:09,140 --> 04:48:10,500
but regardless, that's what it is.

3438
04:48:11,200 --> 04:48:13,080
It's showing that we have so many people working

3439
04:48:13,080 --> 04:48:13,960
for the animal control.

3440
04:48:14,760 --> 04:48:16,500
And whether it's with the kennels or whatever,

3441
04:48:16,620 --> 04:48:17,420
it's still all combined.

3442
04:48:18,360 --> 04:48:22,080
But yet, we have two people, two office,

3443
04:48:22,240 --> 04:48:25,460
animal control officers, and if you have one here,

3444
04:48:25,620 --> 04:48:27,420
and then one in Armagosa or whatever,

3445
04:48:28,400 --> 04:48:31,320
I would love to be able to pull that up

3446
04:48:31,320 --> 04:48:37,400
And for everybody for somebody that explained to us what the salaries are being paid for and I think that we're owed that

3447
04:48:38,240 --> 04:48:43,560
Instead of continuously asking us to get get money cut back those salaries Mr. Wagner and

3448
04:48:44,940 --> 04:48:47,160
Don't don't sit there and shake your head and laugh at me, sir

3449
04:48:47,160 --> 04:48:52,500
This is this is fact. This is your public comment. Why don't you use it? I am I

3450
04:48:53,840 --> 04:48:54,120
am

3451
04:48:55,200 --> 04:48:58,220
But you keep dodging that and keep laughing at me when I bring it up

3452
04:49:05,930 --> 04:49:10,550
way. Just just so we're clear on this. There's been wage studies for Nye County

3453
04:49:11,470 --> 04:49:17,830
comparing them with the other 16 counties in Nevada and you'd be amazed. Do

3454
04:49:17,830 --> 04:49:21,930
some research on that. I'm not talking and like that. We can't do that. Go ahead

3455
04:49:21,930 --> 04:49:24,670
Linda. I can talk after. I'll talk to you after.

3456
04:49:27,040 --> 04:49:29,340
Thank you. Linda Clark.

3457
04:49:39,580 --> 04:49:39,980
Okay

3458
04:49:39,980 --> 04:49:40,920
You said Linda Clark.

3459
04:49:41,160 --> 04:49:42,000
C-L-A-R-K.

3460
04:49:43,440 --> 04:49:44,000
Okay.

3461
04:49:44,360 --> 04:49:45,520
It's so easy to spell.

3462
04:49:46,340 --> 04:49:46,860
Okay.

3463
04:49:52,620 --> 04:49:53,280
A fear.

3464
04:49:55,480 --> 04:49:57,780
That we're just going nowhere.

3465
04:49:59,160 --> 04:49:59,840
And where we're going.

3466
04:50:00,000 --> 04:50:29,320
There's nowhere that no one wants to go. Does that make sense? We don't want to go where you're going. That's the best way to discover it. I feel like this county has been abused, overlooked, and put into a position where, well, I've already said this. We don't matter. And you don't really listen to us. And everything you do is for what you want to do. And we're sitting here,

3467
04:50:29,320 --> 04:50:32,800
We're twiddling our thumbs thinking, why do we deserve this?

3468
04:50:33,740 --> 04:50:37,260
We pay our taxes, we're good, we're good people, right?

3469
04:50:37,700 --> 04:50:38,840
Yeah, we're good people.

3470
04:50:41,680 --> 04:50:45,600
We deserve better than what we're getting, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

3471
04:50:47,800 --> 04:50:48,700
What Deborah?

3472
04:50:49,180 --> 04:50:52,880
Does this have anything to do with the subject that we're talking about, this resolution?

3473
04:50:53,500 --> 04:50:54,160
About your what?

3474
04:50:54,560 --> 04:50:55,800
The resolution, the agenda.

3475
04:50:55,860 --> 04:50:56,740
Item 13.

3476
04:50:58,480 --> 04:51:01,060
I thought you finished that with her.

3477
04:51:01,440 --> 04:51:03,580
No, we're still on resolution item number third.

3478
04:51:03,700 --> 04:51:08,000
Okay, what was it again because I ran into the bathroom and I didn't get that last part.

3479
04:51:11,370 --> 04:51:14,570
Remind me, I can speak on it.

3480
04:51:14,730 --> 04:51:16,730
I'll be happy to speak on it.

3481
04:51:17,010 --> 04:51:18,170
Is the time up?

3482
04:51:18,490 --> 04:51:18,570
No.

3483
04:51:19,410 --> 04:51:20,810
Vice Chair, he's told held it.

3484
04:51:21,230 --> 04:51:24,610
This is the adoption of the resolution 2026-16.

3485
04:51:25,350 --> 04:51:26,670
And what was the resolution for?

3486
04:51:26,670 --> 04:51:29,370
The position of valuation policy.

3487
04:51:31,210 --> 04:51:32,370
Division resolution.

3488
04:51:33,130 --> 04:51:37,090
Position evaluation policy for the people that work here?

3489
04:51:37,550 --> 04:51:37,750
Yes.

3490
04:51:38,650 --> 04:51:40,470
Okay, yeah, we probably need that.

3491
04:51:42,880 --> 04:51:43,400
Badly.

3492
04:51:46,470 --> 04:51:49,850
Sam, do you have any more on the calling thing?

3493
04:51:50,910 --> 04:51:51,250
No chair.

3494
04:51:52,290 --> 04:51:54,010
We're going to close public comment.

3495
04:51:55,350 --> 04:51:55,870
Mr.

3496
04:51:59,020 --> 04:52:02,740
Chair, I'd like to make a motion to adopt Resolution No. 2026-16.

3497
04:52:03,140 --> 04:52:03,480
7.

3498
04:52:03,740 --> 04:52:05,060
Motion second, all those in favor.

3499
04:52:05,240 --> 04:52:05,320
Aye.

3500
04:52:06,000 --> 04:52:06,480
Aye.

3501
04:52:06,980 --> 04:52:07,120
Aye.

3502
04:52:07,800 --> 04:52:08,560
5-0.

3503
04:52:08,740 --> 04:52:09,640
Thank you, 14, please.

3504
04:52:12,570 --> 04:52:16,630
And I'm 14 for possible action, discussion and deliberation to A,

3505
04:52:17,510 --> 04:52:21,950
approve or reject the addition of one part-time no benefits fleet driver, and

3506
04:52:21,950 --> 04:52:24,710
B, fund from 101, a one general fund.

3507
04:52:25,350 --> 04:52:27,270
All right, and I will be speaking to this.

3508
04:52:27,270 --> 04:52:29,630
That's a perfect public comment, Sam, we have anybody on the phone, please?

3509
04:52:30,890 --> 04:52:31,930
I'm sorry, Steven.

3510
04:52:33,330 --> 04:52:34,030
No chair.

3511
04:52:34,330 --> 04:52:34,710
Come on up.

3512
04:52:36,970 --> 04:52:42,990
Steven Pittman, PIT, M-A-N, on the agenda item, request form, there's slight confusion.

3513
04:52:42,990 --> 04:52:47,930
For me, it says approve or reject addition of one part time, no benefit sleep driver.

3514
04:52:48,490 --> 04:52:52,650
In the description, it says, a salary and then benefits.

3515
04:52:53,690 --> 04:52:55,610
I will explain that.

3516
04:52:55,970 --> 04:52:56,190
Okay.

3517
04:52:56,550 --> 04:52:56,750
Thank you.

3518
04:52:56,750 --> 04:52:59,550
Thank you. Sam, anybody on the phone please.

3519
04:52:59,910 --> 04:53:00,190
No, chair.

3520
04:53:00,470 --> 04:53:01,510
Come on up, Beth.

3521
04:53:02,010 --> 04:53:02,230
I

3522
04:53:05,880 --> 04:53:07,220
always have to pull this down.

3523
04:53:08,180 --> 04:53:11,520
Beth Borersavitch, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

3524
04:53:12,120 --> 04:53:14,860
First of all, I think that when it gets this time of the day,

3525
04:53:15,220 --> 04:53:18,140
we should start putting some lavender through the air,

3526
04:53:18,800 --> 04:53:21,720
something else, you know, to calm a citrus, you know,

3527
04:53:21,920 --> 04:53:23,360
just that would be really good.

3528
04:53:23,780 --> 04:53:25,840
Well, we could drink, but that, you know.

3529
04:53:25,840 --> 04:53:34,700
Okay, so here's what I think you should do, fund 101-01.

3530
04:53:35,590 --> 04:53:41,000
You should not touch that for the next six months, period.

3531
04:53:43,160 --> 04:53:51,420
The part-time fleet driver, what department is he for, or is he for all of, you know,

3532
04:53:51,420 --> 04:53:57,520
Nye County, and wherever he's coming from, that is who should pay.

3533
04:53:57,880 --> 04:54:03,880
If it's different departments, then it should be each department and not 10101.

3534
04:54:05,040 --> 04:54:11,860
10101 should be off limits unless there's an absolutely horrendous emergency.

3535
04:54:12,700 --> 04:54:13,540
That's what I've got to say.

3536
04:54:13,880 --> 04:54:14,200
Thanks.

3537
04:54:14,380 --> 04:54:15,000
Thank you, Sam.

3538
04:54:15,140 --> 04:54:15,960
Anybody on the phone, please.

3539
04:54:18,640 --> 04:54:19,180
Yes, chair.

3540
04:54:19,280 --> 04:54:20,200
The caller is unmuted.

3541
04:54:20,400 --> 04:54:21,100
Please speak in his phone.

3542
04:54:21,180 --> 04:54:21,940
Your name for the record.

3543
04:54:21,940 --> 04:54:22,760
Well,

3544
04:54:25,640 --> 04:54:36,400
commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-T-I-A, and I'm just kind of curious the way you're hiding this language and the way you shuffle the budget around with the accounts.

3545
04:54:36,960 --> 04:54:43,740
I think that if the collective bargaining agreement that there are another half of it's missing

3546
04:54:43,740 --> 04:54:49,140
when it comes to reclassifying salary wages the part time and much of the apartment

3547
04:54:49,140 --> 04:54:52,180
is just where that driver to go up and back and forth to Tonipal.

3548
04:54:52,700 --> 04:54:58,120
Let's just close Tonipal down and then we say 2.4 million and reoccurring costs.

3549
04:54:58,340 --> 04:54:58,560
Turn the...

3550
04:55:00,000 --> 04:55:20,980
I have to seek down here for where it belongs. It's crazy. Car County don't have their seat out these mosquitoes. It's a saving money. Okay, it's transparency. You're hiding the agenda item by not even articulate what it's for. Thank you. Thank you for 100,000 years. That's what that gets you

3551
04:55:23,380 --> 04:55:23,940
done.

3552
04:55:27,710 --> 04:55:35,290
Angelina Jackson, J.O.C. Cassad. It's not very clear what this fleet driver is needing.

3553
04:55:35,290 --> 04:55:42,070
it for and it's probably in the description but unfortunately my phone died so I don't

3554
04:55:42,070 --> 04:55:47,030
understand it probably more helpful that everybody that would print it out as well as the

3555
04:55:47,030 --> 04:55:51,930
agenda. Could you let us know what the fleet driver is for?

3556
04:55:54,750 --> 04:56:00,810
I will give okay sorry sorry I'm sorry no you're well it's hard to comment on something

3557
04:56:00,810 --> 04:56:02,310
I know.

3558
04:56:03,350 --> 04:56:04,230
So it's kind of backwards there.

3559
04:56:04,710 --> 04:56:07,630
So can we come back up after we're more informed?

3560
04:56:07,890 --> 04:56:08,510
Probably not.

3561
04:56:08,610 --> 04:56:10,690
I think since our minutes have already been cut down to two minutes

3562
04:56:10,690 --> 04:56:11,950
and there's only like 20 of us here.

3563
04:56:12,250 --> 04:56:16,110
So Clark has no comment on any item other than three minutes in the beginning

3564
04:56:16,110 --> 04:56:17,930
and three minutes at the end.

3565
04:56:18,230 --> 04:56:18,350
Period.

3566
04:56:20,230 --> 04:56:22,590
My question is pertaining to this particular agenda

3567
04:56:22,590 --> 04:56:24,090
that you guys have not informed us of

3568
04:56:24,090 --> 04:56:25,430
and you're going to tell us after the fact,

3569
04:56:25,630 --> 04:56:27,350
after we've already been up from public comment.

3570
04:56:27,730 --> 04:56:29,810
So how are we supposed to make an informative comment

3571
04:56:29,810 --> 04:56:32,430
could comment without having all the information.

3572
04:56:37,440 --> 04:56:39,120
I'm trying not to interrupt her.

3573
04:56:39,280 --> 04:56:40,960
Well, I'm pausing for an answer.

3574
04:56:41,400 --> 04:56:42,420
Well, your time is running.

3575
04:56:44,220 --> 04:56:46,300
Well, I like the way you work that.

3576
04:56:46,780 --> 04:56:48,400
You're, you're, you're good.

3577
04:56:49,360 --> 04:56:49,880
Well, thank you.

3578
04:56:50,380 --> 04:56:51,560
Come on up, Susie.

3579
04:56:54,150 --> 04:56:56,010
OK, so I'll ask the question.

3580
04:56:57,790 --> 04:56:59,090
I'll make the comment.

3581
04:57:00,110 --> 04:57:01,410
I have the backup.

3582
04:57:01,410 --> 04:57:16,850
I read the part-time person for Fleet Driver and I read the section that talks about benefits and other total costs which Brett has already interrupted and said he will explain.

3583
04:57:17,910 --> 04:57:27,310
Well, there's no explanation as to what this person is, what department they're coming from, what their job is, there's no backup for it.

3584
04:57:27,310 --> 04:57:35,510
So we're all without information, you're out without it, too, unless you already know

3585
04:57:35,510 --> 04:57:36,290
what it is.

3586
04:57:36,870 --> 04:57:44,810
But once again, the information that's put together for us to determine and evaluate

3587
04:57:45,350 --> 04:57:51,970
as the public during these meetings, or at any other time, if we choose to email you or

3588
04:57:51,970 --> 04:57:53,790
call you, isn't there.

3589
04:57:54,230 --> 04:58:03,290
So please answer the question after our public comments so that we could know that in the future it would be nice to know it before the public comments.

3590
04:58:03,850 --> 04:58:06,670
So we have something valid to say. Thank you.

3591
04:58:06,930 --> 04:58:08,470
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please.

3592
04:58:11,060 --> 04:58:14,780
Yes, chair. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

3593
04:58:15,200 --> 04:58:15,420
All

3594
04:58:23,650 --> 04:58:25,850
right. We're going to close public. Oh wait. Do you have any more?

3595
04:58:26,150 --> 04:58:30,010
And deal. The caller is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

3596
04:58:32,900 --> 04:58:36,640
Yeah, it's a good thing you didn't hang up there because otherwise I thought I was going

3597
04:58:36,640 --> 04:58:38,100
to have to write another one on the list.

3598
04:58:39,040 --> 04:58:45,100
Bruce Johnson, J.O.A., S.O.N., you know, these last two speakers, you're raising a very

3599
04:58:45,100 --> 04:58:47,000
valid question to you guys.

3600
04:58:47,600 --> 04:58:50,020
And this question has been raised to you guys in the past.

3601
04:58:50,840 --> 04:58:54,580
It seems to be the way that you guys set up doing your business here.

3602
04:58:55,480 --> 04:58:58,780
And I don't really think that's acceptable to the people.

3603
04:58:58,780 --> 04:59:04,380
So it's more to the benefit of you guys and not to the benefit of the people.

3604
04:59:05,140 --> 04:59:08,080
And so I think we have a conflict of interest here.

3605
04:59:09,320 --> 04:59:14,740
So I'm going to nicely ask you guys or instruct you actually, and I'll follow this up

3606
04:59:14,740 --> 04:59:15,200
by the notice.

3607
04:59:15,800 --> 04:59:18,380
Let's make this correct and get in the process, please.

3608
04:59:18,920 --> 04:59:19,480
Thank you.

3609
04:59:20,300 --> 04:59:22,820
Sam, do you have anybody else that would like to instruct me?

3610
04:59:23,320 --> 04:59:23,660
Mayor Dill.

3611
04:59:24,280 --> 04:59:24,760
No chair.

3612
04:59:25,240 --> 04:59:26,260
Closing public comment.

3613
04:59:27,240 --> 04:59:28,420
Go ahead, manager.

3614
04:59:29,000 --> 04:59:30,020
I just do some explaining.

3615
04:59:33,120 --> 04:59:40,100
So what we've discovered since we had the fleet driver retire, he was funded entirely

3616
04:59:40,100 --> 04:59:41,480
out of buildings and grounds.

3617
04:59:42,160 --> 04:59:44,700
It was a service to many different departments.

3618
04:59:46,530 --> 04:59:53,980
One of the big issues I was noticed is there is some time sensitive documents that need to

3619
04:59:53,980 --> 04:59:58,300
be brought back and forth for the clerks office and then for the justice.

3620
05:00:00,000 --> 05:00:29,540
Any outline areas? There is other documents that, you know, other departments utilize. But as far as the benefits, because I asked the same question, because actually Commissioner Koneck asked me, because when I'd gotten the estimate from HR, it was just a whole number of 25,123. But we do still have to pay sole security. We have to pay workers comp. We have to pay.

3621
05:00:29,540 --> 05:00:36,360
that those types of costs that are mandated, and that's what that $3,314 is.

3622
05:00:37,080 --> 05:00:45,820
So the salary is $20.99, $21.808, and $61.00, and then you add those.

3623
05:00:46,220 --> 05:00:50,060
Other costs, that's where we come up with the $25.123.

3624
05:00:50,680 --> 05:00:58,160
And what I am proposing is that this gets borne by the departments that utilize this service.

3625
05:00:58,160 --> 05:01:03,840
So it isn't just a direct cost to one single department,

3626
05:01:04,020 --> 05:01:05,960
like it was with buildings and grounds.

3627
05:01:06,720 --> 05:01:08,880
We were trying to help their budget.

3628
05:01:11,180 --> 05:01:16,240
The other part of it is we did used to have the school district

3629
05:01:16,240 --> 05:01:17,380
that was involved in it.

3630
05:01:17,440 --> 05:01:19,020
That is no longer going to be the case.

3631
05:01:19,440 --> 05:01:23,260
Well, we're proposing as a two-day-a-week fleet service

3632
05:01:23,940 --> 05:01:25,320
Tuesdays and Thursdays.

3633
05:01:25,980 --> 05:01:35,540
They are going to use utilize a fleet vehicle out of our pool to check out for the day and check back in each of those two days.

3634
05:01:35,720 --> 05:01:37,140
We're not going to have to buy a new vehicle.

3635
05:01:37,780 --> 05:01:44,080
We're not going to have to be driving a truck back and forth that used to get like nine or 13 miles to the gallon.

3636
05:01:44,460 --> 05:01:47,680
We'll be driving something that will get 35 miles to the gallon.

3637
05:01:47,680 --> 05:01:53,300
We're not going to be hauling cars or that kind of stuff, that'll be handled by that

3638
05:01:53,300 --> 05:01:59,280
department themselves, but we will be able to take all the parts, you know, stuff

3639
05:01:59,280 --> 05:02:01,240
that will fit in a regular passenger car.

3640
05:02:01,960 --> 05:02:07,560
So again, to alleviate and spread this out, a lot of people I heard from the comments,

3641
05:02:07,560 --> 05:02:12,580
they don't realize every single department with the exception of special revenue departments

3642
05:02:12,580 --> 05:02:16,360
like road department are all paid out of the general fund.

3643
05:02:16,360 --> 05:02:36,560
So including buildings and grounds, so it's not that we're changing a funding source, but instead of having it all hit one department, we're looking at hitting, you know, the five or six different departments with like a five, four to $5,000 cost for this service.

3644
05:02:36,560 --> 05:02:37,680
And

3645
05:02:40,140 --> 05:02:55,120
it's known that it is a vital service for mainly for the courts and the DA's office utilizes it a lot because, again, they have time sensitive documents that have to be up when courts in session.

3646
05:02:58,320 --> 05:02:59,940
Okay. Commissioner Scott, anything?

3647
05:02:59,940 --> 05:03:00,520
Thank you.

3648
05:03:02,900 --> 05:03:03,580
Thank you.

3649
05:03:03,760 --> 05:03:04,380
Thank you.

3650
05:03:05,140 --> 05:03:05,900
Thank you.

3651
05:03:06,020 --> 05:03:06,420
Thank you.

3652
05:03:06,420 --> 05:03:06,500
Thank you.

3653
05:03:06,500 --> 05:03:09,040
Manager to help clarify.

3654
05:03:09,320 --> 05:03:09,600
Please.

3655
05:03:10,500 --> 05:03:12,640
We have Justice Court in Beatty.

3656
05:03:12,840 --> 05:03:17,980
So would this include a stop in Beatty for their mail or deliveries?

3657
05:03:18,540 --> 05:03:18,960
Absolutely.

3658
05:03:19,760 --> 05:03:22,540
It's going to be one trip up and one trip back a day.

3659
05:03:23,120 --> 05:03:29,140
And it'll have scheduled stops, you know, which will include a few here in Burrump.

3660
05:03:29,140 --> 05:03:33,100
and then obviously, Betty, and then Tonapa.

3661
05:03:35,320 --> 05:03:43,380
Okay, so wherever there's a stop, they will be required to incur some of the costs.

3662
05:03:43,840 --> 05:03:44,040
Correct.

3663
05:03:45,740 --> 05:03:46,740
Okay, thank you.

3664
05:03:48,000 --> 05:03:49,060
Thank you, Commissioner.

3665
05:03:49,940 --> 05:03:50,020
Okay.

3666
05:03:51,360 --> 05:03:58,520
I'm going to make a motion to approve the addition of one part time, the benefits fleet driver,

3667
05:03:59,700 --> 05:04:03,260
and fund from, how do you want to work that?

3668
05:04:06,230 --> 05:04:10,630
It'll be fund from 101 with the exception

3669
05:04:10,630 --> 05:04:11,890
of the road department.

3670
05:04:12,370 --> 05:04:16,110
We will be able to charge some to the road department

3671
05:04:16,110 --> 05:04:20,150
for the equipment shops for anything we run for them.

3672
05:04:21,570 --> 05:04:23,570
And I can't remember what one number was.

3673
05:04:23,690 --> 05:04:25,070
Is it going to want to come out there?

3674
05:04:25,250 --> 05:04:26,350
How are you going to split it up?

3675
05:04:27,310 --> 05:04:30,230
It's going to get added to the departmental budget

3676
05:04:30,230 --> 05:04:35,150
budget for their service and supplies wherever it would fall.

3677
05:04:35,250 --> 05:04:37,510
Okay, so add that to the funding.

3678
05:04:37,910 --> 05:04:41,190
Yeah, it'll be split and I can tell you the list of the departments.

3679
05:04:41,650 --> 05:04:48,410
I apologize I did bring that in here, but if you want to specify which departments we can do that.

3680
05:04:48,670 --> 05:04:49,730
We'll do it.

3681
05:04:50,250 --> 05:04:50,770
Yes.

3682
05:04:51,310 --> 05:04:51,830
Second.

3683
05:04:52,790 --> 05:04:53,470
Two board seconds.

3684
05:04:53,710 --> 05:04:54,950
We have a motion and two seconds.

3685
05:04:54,950 --> 05:04:55,830
All those in favor.

3686
05:04:56,130 --> 05:04:56,270
Aye.

3687
05:04:57,570 --> 05:04:58,050
Aye.

3688
05:04:58,050 --> 05:04:58,550
And of course, I...

3689
05:05:07,660 --> 05:05:29,980
All right, we're going to open them all together. 15, 16, 17, 18. All right, item 15, report by Zena regarding the budget status for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2026. For night county and all sub entities pursuant to NRS 354.4.5.

3690
05:05:31,020 --> 05:05:50,280
and I'm 16 for possible action, discussion, deliberation, and or direction to staff about the fiscal year 2026 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of the tax dollars.

3691
05:05:50,280 --> 05:05:56,760
Item 17 for possible action discussion and deliberation and or direction to staff about

3692
05:05:56,760 --> 05:06:03,160
the fiscal year 2027 financial update direct staff on any related financial item to enhance

3693
05:06:03,160 --> 05:06:10,660
financial transparency and being fiscal stewards with the use of tax dollars in item 18 for

3694
05:06:10,660 --> 05:06:16,300
possible action discussion deliberation and direction to staff on cost saving measures to

3695
05:06:16,300 --> 05:06:18,700
the required department had approval on overtime.

3696
05:06:20,780 --> 05:06:22,820
Okay, hello Zina.

3697
05:06:23,540 --> 05:06:24,920
Good afternoon commissioners.

3698
05:06:25,560 --> 05:06:30,880
So I'm going to talk about fiscal 26 first and then I'll go in, I'm sorry.

3699
05:06:31,680 --> 05:06:35,540
So 15, 16 and 18.

3700
05:06:35,980 --> 05:06:38,500
Those are the three that I will speak to first.

3701
05:06:40,240 --> 05:06:46,000
Item 15 is a requirement for NRS for us to report every

3702
05:06:46,000 --> 05:06:55,880
the results, the budget and the actual, so the results that we have for the fourth quarter includes the full year.

3703
05:06:56,420 --> 05:07:06,520
Up to the point where we've closed accounts payable, we still need to do our year-end accruals, we still need to do account analysis.

3704
05:07:06,920 --> 05:07:13,380
We need to look at our balance sheet to see that our assets and liabilities have been reconciled.

3705
05:07:13,380 --> 05:07:22,700
and then also to do a revenue and expenditure analysis to compare current year to prior year to look for appropriateness.

3706
05:07:23,520 --> 05:07:27,380
So a couple of things I'd like to point out.

3707
05:07:28,080 --> 05:07:39,440
As of the time of this report, we did not have the CTAX payment for June and at this point our revenues are better than budget.

3708
05:07:39,440 --> 05:07:44,870
So we're not losing money, we're not in the deficit.

3709
05:07:46,210 --> 05:07:52,790
Right now, the way that it looks, we are, but we will be at the end of the year.

3710
05:07:53,270 --> 05:07:55,030
It looks very promising.

3711
05:07:55,350 --> 05:08:01,050
I am not going to say that until the audit report is done and I have the audit report in my hands.

3712
05:08:01,490 --> 05:08:08,770
Because the auditor can come up with any type of adjustment that is unexpected.

3713
05:08:08,770 --> 05:08:15,670
But the way it looks, it's very promising, so that takes care of item 15.

3714
05:08:16,490 --> 05:08:29,090
And at the back, the very last page of item 15 is a report of unusual items so that as

3715
05:08:29,090 --> 05:08:38,550
reference to talk about revenues and expenditures, we've also have recognized an increase in tax

3716
05:08:38,550 --> 05:08:45,910
penalties. And we deserve a big shout out to the assessor and the Treasury Department

3717
05:08:45,910 --> 05:08:50,890
for getting on the phone and making calls for delinquent taxes.

3718
05:08:54,720 --> 05:08:57,180
So that takes care of

3719
05:08:57,180 --> 05:09:00,290
item 15.

3720
05:09:06,100 --> 05:09:13,120
I'd like to talk a few items on item 16. Item 16 is basically the financial update.

3721
05:09:13,120 --> 05:09:25,160
So because we implemented cost-saving measures and we restricted our spending for the past

3722
05:09:25,160 --> 05:09:35,640
four months since the end of May, our revenues excluding our last month, we're still trying

3723
05:09:35,640 --> 05:09:42,000
to get, we're still have the CTACs and some other adjustments, our revenues are coming in

3724
05:09:42,000 --> 05:09:49,260
at $57 million, and our expenditures are coming in at almost $59 million.

3725
05:09:50,340 --> 05:09:59,960
So the deficit right now sits at $1.7 million, but that is before the final...

3726
05:10:00,000 --> 05:10:21,080
C-tax, which typically is historically has been around one and a half to $2 million. What was the deficit when we started these costs saving efforts? So back in April, we were forecasting a deficit of $7.5 million.

3727
05:10:23,480 --> 05:10:29,980
So it's because of the cost saving measures. And also the majority part is because of the

3728
05:10:29,980 --> 05:10:36,580
the better than budget revenues, the revenues really saved us.

3729
05:10:41,380 --> 05:10:49,680
So the last piece of items of fiscal 26, actually let me open it up for questions.

3730
05:10:49,680 --> 05:10:58,660
If anybody has questions on the financials, and then I'll talk about the one cost-saving measure that I have, which is on over time.

3731
05:11:00,000 --> 05:11:03,520
Mr. Jebore or Bain, do you guys have anything for Zina right now?

3732
05:11:06,320 --> 05:11:07,580
Chair, I'm waiting for overtime.

3733
05:11:07,580 --> 05:11:08,520
I'm sure thank you.

3734
05:11:08,700 --> 05:11:08,920
Gotcha.

3735
05:11:13,380 --> 05:11:15,100
Okay, so then I'll talk about overtime.

3736
05:11:16,500 --> 05:11:28,300
So back in the end of May, board of county commissioners, you gave direction that all overtime had to be pre-approved or actually had to be approved by department heads.

3737
05:11:31,100 --> 05:11:40,200
So we took a look at overtime for the month of June and just so you know we're going

3738
05:11:40,200 --> 05:11:44,940
to be coming back every couple of months to be talking about the improvements that are

3739
05:11:44,940 --> 05:11:46,560
being done on overtime.

3740
05:11:48,040 --> 05:11:56,800
As you know or may not know, maybe not as clear, overtime was not a budgeted item in our

3741
05:11:56,800 --> 05:12:08,080
fiscal 27 budget. So we took a look at the policy and the HR policy has a couple of

3742
05:12:08,080 --> 05:12:15,920
components to it. So people can earn comp time as long as it's within there, unless there

3743
05:12:15,920 --> 05:12:24,020
is a difference in the collective bargaining agreement. The policy requires authorization

3744
05:12:24,020 --> 05:12:28,340
in advance before the employee can work over time.

3745
05:12:29,720 --> 05:12:33,820
There is an exception that firefighters,

3746
05:12:34,720 --> 05:12:39,480
their overtime is built into their collective bargaining agreements.

3747
05:12:39,800 --> 05:12:43,060
So we don't have much say in that overtime.

3748
05:12:43,420 --> 05:12:44,980
It's part of their schedule.

3749
05:12:47,980 --> 05:12:53,180
So we sent out an email in the beginning of August asking

3750
05:12:53,180 --> 05:12:59,640
asking department heads to provide the support for their overtime, the documented support approving it.

3751
05:13:00,520 --> 05:13:11,830
And as you can see on the back up, we have 12 departments that had overtime in the month of June.

3752
05:13:13,590 --> 05:13:20,630
Of the 12 departments, most of them complied with the policy and

3753
05:13:20,630 --> 05:13:24,910
the direction from the commissioners to approve overtime.

3754
05:13:25,450 --> 05:13:34,750
We have a few departments that issued a blanket overtime memo to the finance department

3755
05:13:34,750 --> 05:13:40,970
and that blanket overtime memo was dated after the overtime was paid.

3756
05:13:43,330 --> 05:13:54,510
So I met with HR payroll and to come up with suggestions on how we can tighten that area.

3757
05:13:56,170 --> 05:14:06,230
And then since the policy related only to the county side, we do have one department

3758
05:14:06,230 --> 05:14:12,610
that actually charges both the county and the town and that's animal services.

3759
05:14:13,050 --> 05:14:21,210
So in your backup, I include the town of Perump so that you can see the total cost of animal services over time.

3760
05:14:23,980 --> 05:14:27,440
So now, if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.

3761
05:14:28,080 --> 05:14:28,680
Mr. Agibore.

3762
05:14:30,900 --> 05:14:31,600
Thank you, Chair.

3763
05:14:31,780 --> 05:14:33,500
Thank you, Zena, for that.

3764
05:14:38,860 --> 05:14:41,780
As one of the policies that you mentioned,

3765
05:14:41,780 --> 05:14:41,980
And

3766
05:14:44,130 --> 05:14:55,230
that employees must receive approval in advance is not conducive to the

3767
05:14:57,980 --> 05:14:58,840
last hour.

3768
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:17,980
Hours or minutes of people's shifts, especially first responders, for example. I'm not being the clerks, not being the clerks attorney. We have that position already filled. He's actually here and talking about today.

3769
05:15:20,240 --> 05:15:29,460
But I would assume that the overtime for June under the clerks category had to do specifically with the primary election.

3770
05:15:29,460 --> 05:15:30,220
I

3771
05:15:35,220 --> 05:15:52,040
know that I said at the last meeting that this came up is for as cost saving measures that that department heads were required to approve or were required to approve all over time.

3772
05:15:52,040 --> 05:15:58,040
And I believe that's happened in looking at the chart, there's 11 of what I counted,

3773
05:15:58,380 --> 05:16:00,620
11 departments of what I counted.

3774
05:16:01,340 --> 05:16:09,780
And the biggest offender of over time, and not in a negative way, is the sheriff's office.

3775
05:16:10,800 --> 05:16:14,940
But that's historic, that's a historic number and an activity.

3776
05:16:16,220 --> 05:16:20,660
But I would ask the commissioners to consider.

3777
05:16:20,660 --> 05:16:30,900
that at this time to continue the momentum of approved overtime is that there's no overtime,

3778
05:16:31,220 --> 05:16:42,080
whatsoever, and if there's any overtime incurred, a type of justification form with an explanation

3779
05:16:42,080 --> 05:16:51,200
must accompany the approved payroll for any and all pay periods. Not just having the department had

3780
05:16:51,200 --> 05:16:58,760
approve the overtime because they weren't even there, for example, but they were told

3781
05:16:58,760 --> 05:17:06,860
that, oh, I had to do overtime, okay, it's approved. They say it, they log it, it has

3782
05:17:06,860 --> 05:17:07,540
to be paid.

3783
05:17:09,940 --> 05:17:16,700
I believe there should be a justification type form, as I mentioned, with a full explanation

3784
05:17:16,700 --> 05:17:22,440
of why they're incurring over time and that's submitted to payroll. That's

3785
05:17:22,440 --> 05:17:26,980
submitted to HR and that's under review by the HR director and also the

3786
05:17:26,980 --> 05:17:28,520
county manager and

3787
05:17:32,390 --> 05:17:36,270
I'm certain that there will be times that those

3788
05:17:36,270 --> 05:17:46,030
justification forms will be challenged and that will eliminate some most

3789
05:17:46,030 --> 05:17:47,470
over time in the future.

3790
05:17:52,670 --> 05:17:54,470
So again I'd ask the commissioners to please

3791
05:17:54,470 --> 05:18:00,310
Please consider that under this number 18 agenda, his item, under overtime, please.

3792
05:18:01,490 --> 05:18:02,690
I'll turn it back over to you, Chair.

3793
05:18:03,490 --> 05:18:04,290
Thank you, sir.

3794
05:18:04,750 --> 05:18:13,470
So that would be in the direction of the staff to include Mr. Gibor's direction.

3795
05:18:14,130 --> 05:18:14,330
Correct?

3796
05:18:14,850 --> 05:18:15,370
Go ahead, Zena.

3797
05:18:15,510 --> 05:18:15,610
Sorry.

3798
05:18:20,590 --> 05:18:23,110
Are we okay to talk about fiscal 2020?

3799
05:18:24,030 --> 05:18:25,290
Sorry, I was chairing my eye.

3800
05:18:25,610 --> 05:18:25,790
Go ahead.

3801
05:18:25,790 --> 05:18:32,550
But my question is, I don't want to put pressure on the town, but is it a way to make

3802
05:18:32,550 --> 05:18:35,710
the town do the same thing, just for consistency for over time?

3803
05:18:36,390 --> 05:18:37,310
I think it should be everybody.

3804
05:18:39,990 --> 05:18:40,790
I think that's my question.

3805
05:18:40,990 --> 05:18:41,670
Is it okay?

3806
05:18:41,810 --> 05:18:48,310
I would agree with that commissioner, because we do have, for instance, our buildings and

3807
05:18:48,310 --> 05:18:56,530
grounds that we're looking at that as considerable over time, and we're trying to evaluate if

3808
05:18:56,530 --> 05:19:02,410
If it's a scheduling issue or what it is, but I definitely would agree with that.

3809
05:19:03,270 --> 05:19:06,470
I don't know how do we make that happen to vote on it or can we just do it right now?

3810
05:19:07,290 --> 05:19:08,910
It would go in the direction, right?

3811
05:19:10,270 --> 05:19:14,470
The direction, the staff, direction, directions noted.

3812
05:19:15,010 --> 05:19:22,110
We including first responders and all of that, man, I'm not going to tell a fire of guidance

3813
05:19:22,110 --> 05:19:24,070
out in the middle of a house fired up.

3814
05:19:24,490 --> 05:19:24,970
You got to go.

3815
05:19:24,970 --> 05:19:46,770
So that is, so fire is collective bargaining agreement, their schedule, which we have chief here, he can talk to the schedule, it's automatically at part of their schedule, they work two days on, one day off.

3816
05:19:47,170 --> 05:19:53,010
So it's built into their weekly, they're by weekly pay.

3817
05:19:53,010 --> 05:19:53,210
Okay.

3818
05:19:54,530 --> 05:19:54,930
Okay.

3819
05:19:55,930 --> 05:19:57,110
What else you got for us?

3820
05:19:59,280 --> 05:19:59,920
That was it.

3821
05:20:00,820 --> 05:20:30,800
I have a quick question. Sorry. Oh, yeah, commissioner. Just really quick. And this might be, I'd get back to me thing. I'm looking at the sheriff's numbers. And I think this is what commissioner's report is kind of talking about. And I'm not trying to open up a wound here or another bad thing. But $33,000, that's dollars in over time. Or is that $33,000? That is $13,000. Yes. And if we're doing that a month, that's, that'd be like $300,000. That's approximately two deputies. I mean, is it? I like to adjust here.

3822
05:20:30,800 --> 05:20:34,000
the finance director's opinion of this because otherwise it's going to turn political.

3823
05:20:34,980 --> 05:20:39,360
Why not just like maybe swap that out for like one full-time deputy?

3824
05:20:39,640 --> 05:20:41,720
Is there a fiscal reason why you don't want to do that?

3825
05:20:42,380 --> 05:20:46,940
I believe you have to look at their schedule and that would be a question for the sheriff

3826
05:20:46,940 --> 05:20:51,400
or for the finance manager to talk about how they schedule their staff.

3827
05:20:52,200 --> 05:20:52,420
Okay.

3828
05:20:52,960 --> 05:20:58,080
So the concern is that it's a tricky, if we don't have a manager that can execute that then

3829
05:20:58,080 --> 05:21:00,160
and it would all fall apart and we'd end up spending more money.

3830
05:21:00,300 --> 05:21:01,440
And that's basically, is that correct?

3831
05:21:01,620 --> 05:21:03,180
It's just a management problem or deal with it.

3832
05:21:06,180 --> 05:21:08,680
Well, it'd be nice to wave a magic wand and say,

3833
05:21:08,980 --> 05:21:12,300
hey, let's just hire one, two guys in 130,000,

3834
05:21:12,400 --> 05:21:13,820
instead of 330,000.

3835
05:21:13,880 --> 05:21:15,860
But the problem is that if we don't manage

3836
05:21:15,860 --> 05:21:18,380
those two new guys, or gals or whatever correctly,

3837
05:21:18,940 --> 05:21:21,680
then we might be doing the two, and then in addition

3838
05:21:21,680 --> 05:21:23,780
the overtime, if it's not managed correctly.

3839
05:21:24,520 --> 05:21:27,440
Is that a good kind of explanation of this?

3840
05:21:28,900 --> 05:21:32,080
In general terms, I would agree with you, Commissioner.

3841
05:21:35,560 --> 05:21:42,180
So in the policy, it does talk about if the department has an overtime policy.

3842
05:21:42,900 --> 05:21:48,340
So I did inquire about that, and I still, I did that this morning.

3843
05:21:48,360 --> 05:21:52,400
So I haven't had a chance to look at my email or to follow up on that.

3844
05:21:52,400 --> 05:21:52,440
That.

3845
05:21:54,690 --> 05:21:57,230
Commissioner Bain-May, I mentioned something.

3846
05:21:57,570 --> 05:21:57,950
Excuse me.

3847
05:21:58,130 --> 05:21:58,570
I'm not controlled.

3848
05:21:58,770 --> 05:21:59,030
Thank you.

3849
05:21:59,730 --> 05:22:03,150
So, I understand mathematically what you're saying.

3850
05:22:04,130 --> 05:22:07,730
But we're not talking about just two deputies in Perump.

3851
05:22:08,050 --> 05:22:11,310
We're talking over time for the Sheriff's Office throughout the county.

3852
05:22:11,890 --> 05:22:19,310
And so, to hire, to get rid of the 31,000 in overtime on paper, we hire two deputies there

3853
05:22:19,310 --> 05:22:24,450
in Perump but they're incurring over time in Ram Mountain or here in Tonapa or or or and those

3854
05:22:24,450 --> 05:22:30,910
could be dispatchers. Yes. It's not a financial problem. If we could just have a bunch of people

3855
05:22:30,910 --> 05:22:35,850
making widgets in one room then it would make sense to just hire two people but it's it becomes

3856
05:22:35,850 --> 05:22:41,270
a complicated management problem. Yes. And that's where we're at. So we need to just figure out

3857
05:22:41,270 --> 05:22:47,230
and maybe at some point we can get from the sheriff's office any kind of any kind of like way to maybe

3858
05:22:47,230 --> 05:22:47,950
We fixed that, probably.

3859
05:22:48,310 --> 05:22:49,210
Here's what I suggest.

3860
05:22:49,470 --> 05:22:50,690
And this is what a normal company would do.

3861
05:22:50,950 --> 05:22:53,790
I need to inject that to the discussion about normalcy or a company.

3862
05:22:54,030 --> 05:22:59,090
But a normal company would say, hey, Sheriff, we're paying $350,000 a year to actually be more

3863
05:22:59,090 --> 05:22:59,410
than that.

3864
05:22:59,510 --> 05:23:02,090
It's actually more like $400,000 a year.

3865
05:23:02,610 --> 05:23:07,130
How do you recommend, with staffing levels, to make that better?

3866
05:23:07,710 --> 05:23:09,250
And so I would like to see your report like that.

3867
05:23:09,250 --> 05:23:12,330
I don't want to put more pressure on the Sheriff's Office, but it would be an interesting,

3868
05:23:12,610 --> 05:23:13,510
do you agree with me?

3869
05:23:13,610 --> 05:23:15,470
That would be an interesting thing to ask for at least?

3870
05:23:16,970 --> 05:23:23,250
Well, Commissioner, the Sheriff's Department has gotten many different positions.

3871
05:23:23,250 --> 05:23:26,530
It's not just deputies that incur overtime.

3872
05:23:27,550 --> 05:23:33,250
I mean, it's dispatch, it's, you know, the jail, it's, I mean, it's all kinds of different.

3873
05:23:33,490 --> 05:23:35,150
For an office, I totally understand.

3874
05:23:35,390 --> 05:23:40,630
I was just wondering if there's a way to just not compel it, but just ask if there's a way he wants more people.

3875
05:23:40,630 --> 05:23:47,370
If it's a cheaper way to get more people and instead of the overtime show us the plan, we have to make sure we're not going to blow past that plan.

3876
05:23:47,730 --> 05:23:54,790
I'm not suggesting creating policy. I just wouldn't mind seeing just this is what managers typically do in companies. It's hard to be a manager.

3877
05:23:55,070 --> 05:23:57,990
It's not just strutting around and saying I'm a manager, it's actually doing stuff like this.

3878
05:23:58,210 --> 05:24:03,450
So I don't know if that's possible. If we could get that that would be wonderful if not, then that's what it is.

3879
05:24:03,450 --> 05:24:12,030
That kind of plays back to the last item, or the item with the, you know, the position

3880
05:24:12,030 --> 05:24:14,210
policy, filling position policy.

3881
05:24:14,730 --> 05:24:18,450
That's all kind of to get that information for that justification.

3882
05:24:19,490 --> 05:24:22,770
So that's exactly what we're trying to accomplish.

3883
05:24:23,450 --> 05:24:24,750
So you're on the right track.

3884
05:24:26,640 --> 05:24:32,900
So the last piece, that was the sheriff's office that did not include the overtime for the

3885
05:24:32,900 --> 05:24:38,580
jail, which is in the middle of the page, which is an additional $18,700.

3886
05:24:41,180 --> 05:24:43,960
Just to point that out since we were talking about that.

3887
05:24:50,730 --> 05:24:54,410
Okay, commissioners, do we have something to present?

3888
05:24:54,490 --> 05:24:58,670
Chair, the only thing I heard came from direction to staff in regards to item number 8.

3889
05:25:00,000 --> 05:25:05,100
18, the items that we've opened, but I think senior has one more to discuss.

3890
05:25:06,200 --> 05:25:20,540
And then when she's, when you're done, Zina, then we'll open public. Okay. So fiscal 27, we started the budget process and it was very difficult this year to say the least.

3891
05:25:20,540 --> 05:25:29,820
We had to pull back on filled positions, open positions, which was very hard for many

3892
05:25:29,820 --> 05:25:33,980
departments, especially for our safety area.

3893
05:25:34,900 --> 05:25:40,920
And then we also had to do a 34% cut in service and supplies.

3894
05:25:41,980 --> 05:25:47,120
So this is an update where we are with the fiscal 27 budget.

3895
05:25:49,910 --> 05:25:58,730
We had the early employee separation program, we are going to be putting forward an agenda

3896
05:25:58,730 --> 05:26:08,110
item to reduce salaries, benefits, and reclass where the cost savings was a placeholder.

3897
05:26:08,630 --> 05:26:10,570
That's going to be about a million dollars.

3898
05:26:11,570 --> 05:26:15,250
We have to move the jail fund over to the general fund.

3899
05:26:16,810 --> 05:26:24,710
It's going to take a little time to do that because of the transactions have to be stopped.

3900
05:26:25,010 --> 05:26:31,950
So it will take some time for us to cut off the jail fund and bring it over to the general

3901
05:26:31,950 --> 05:26:32,490
fund.

3902
05:26:32,930 --> 05:26:39,030
But in the most part, this is just a summary to show you where we stand with the fiscal

3903
05:26:39,030 --> 05:26:40,250
27 budget.

3904
05:26:40,250 --> 05:26:45,730
But our budget was balanced when we approved it.

3905
05:26:46,270 --> 05:26:55,670
And because there was so much pushback from some departments saying that they did not

3906
05:26:55,670 --> 05:27:02,650
have enough in their budget for service and supplies, I have a few more departments

3907
05:27:02,650 --> 05:27:03,910
to work with.

3908
05:27:03,910 --> 05:27:16,510
But so far we have budget and item will be coming back to the Board of Commissioners at the next agenda meeting to talk about more specifics.

3909
05:27:17,170 --> 05:27:30,390
But so far we have $1.7 million of service and supplies that departments are asking for, and then we still don't have over time budgeted.

3910
05:27:30,390 --> 05:27:38,750
So those are the two items for the fiscal 27 budget to bring you up to speed of how where we are.

3911
05:27:43,140 --> 05:27:43,700
Okay.

3912
05:27:46,980 --> 05:27:48,880
Let's open public comment.

3913
05:27:51,130 --> 05:27:51,870
Come on up, Stephen.

3914
05:27:58,060 --> 05:27:58,900
Are you awake?

3915
05:27:59,180 --> 05:28:03,860
Yes, there. Stephen Pittman, PITMA and Marine Corps.

3916
05:28:04,720 --> 05:28:13,040
Keep it simple, stupid. If I incur $300,000 in overtime, that was not budgeted.

3917
05:28:13,040 --> 05:28:17,900
And it can't be solved by hiring more people to decrease the overtime.

3918
05:28:19,760 --> 05:28:20,160
Yes?

3919
05:28:21,180 --> 05:28:21,780
Thank you.

3920
05:28:22,380 --> 05:28:22,740
Thank you.

3921
05:28:22,920 --> 05:28:24,200
Sam, any putty on the phone, please.

3922
05:28:25,560 --> 05:28:26,100
Yes, chair.

3923
05:28:26,200 --> 05:28:27,180
The caller is unmuted.

3924
05:28:27,440 --> 05:28:29,140
Please speak of the spoiler name for the record.

3925
05:28:32,320 --> 05:28:35,180
Bill Hannon, V-O-H-A, and then, oh, and a couple things here.

3926
05:28:35,180 --> 05:28:47,860
One, on the 2026 feedback, wise comments, Zena, not committing that would be over or under the budget.

3927
05:28:48,620 --> 05:28:53,440
You don't know what the adjusting entries are going to be and you don't know the last tax payment is going to be.

3928
05:28:53,440 --> 05:29:00,700
what he's called. Number two, from an overtime standpoint, valid point,

3929
05:29:00,900 --> 05:29:11,920
simplify, marine on the overtime not being budgeted with a caveat. So from an

3930
05:29:11,920 --> 05:29:16,960
evaluation standpoint, what I heard is justification, justification, justification,

3931
05:29:16,960 --> 05:29:19,860
But then here I think about rimmed the vacation either.

3932
05:29:20,840 --> 05:29:26,040
So what is what is the penalty for a spending in here anything?

3933
05:29:26,960 --> 05:29:28,320
Is it us going to watch this?

3934
05:29:28,440 --> 05:29:35,320
Do we have to wait that long or is it something else that's done internally about curbing

3935
05:29:35,320 --> 05:29:43,960
the expense and the cost that are occurring, driving efficiencies, you know hear me say

3936
05:29:43,960 --> 05:29:57,100
that client bit but let's let's do more with less period as far as a as a 20 27 budget. I looked at

3937
05:29:57,100 --> 05:29:59,360
With that, I was a little bit disappointed quite frankly.

3938
05:29:59,360 --> 05:29:59,940
You

3939
05:30:00,000 --> 05:30:07,480
One would be at least 10-20% of a cushion on the bottom, to give yourself leeway when there's

3940
05:30:07,480 --> 05:30:14,200
an state of inflation, to give yourself leeway to be able to pay back some of the excess

3941
05:30:14,920 --> 05:30:21,800
or some of the benefits that had been occurring on the pensions, etc. over time and the increases

3942
05:30:21,800 --> 05:30:29,140
of unfunded mandates. So all that funding needs to be taken into account and provided for.

3943
05:30:31,280 --> 05:30:33,380
The back there were time for a second.

3944
05:30:33,800 --> 05:30:34,160
Thank you.

3945
05:30:34,280 --> 05:30:35,360
The, the, the two,

3946
05:30:37,410 --> 05:30:38,730
uh, come on down.

3947
05:30:43,640 --> 05:30:46,000
Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

3948
05:30:47,260 --> 05:30:53,240
First, one of the commissioners asked about the deputy situation, you know, if there's

3949
05:30:53,240 --> 05:31:02,300
one or, you know, hiring one full time, it's one less body than, okay, so if you, if you

3950
05:31:02,300 --> 05:31:06,200
You'll hire one full time instead of two and have them on overtime or whatever it might

3951
05:31:06,200 --> 05:31:06,460
be.

3952
05:31:07,140 --> 05:31:09,020
That means you're going to have one less body.

3953
05:31:10,080 --> 05:31:14,320
So one less deputy, okay, that's just its common sense.

3954
05:31:15,300 --> 05:31:22,460
Now with that, the incident, Zena, you made a comment of what the revenue was and what was

3955
05:31:22,460 --> 05:31:22,860
paid out.

3956
05:31:23,860 --> 05:31:29,480
If it's 57.7 that was brought in in revenue, but 64 million was paid out just for payroll

3957
05:31:29,480 --> 05:31:29,900
alone.

3958
05:31:29,900 --> 05:31:32,340
No, I don't understand how those numbers play.

3959
05:31:33,860 --> 05:31:40,420
Yes, ma'am, payroll itself is 64 million, and can you stop our time, please?

3960
05:31:40,640 --> 05:31:40,940
Older.

3961
05:31:41,280 --> 05:31:46,840
Zania, would you please explain to the young lady what our outgo for payroll is, please?

3962
05:31:47,500 --> 05:31:49,040
It's certainly not $67 million.

3963
05:31:49,500 --> 05:31:50,060
No, it's $64.

3964
05:31:50,420 --> 05:31:52,740
It's certainly not $64 million for payroll.

3965
05:32:02,990 --> 05:32:08,810
So agenda item 16, I'm sorry, no, not 16.

3966
05:32:08,810 --> 05:32:08,910
16.

3967
05:32:09,090 --> 05:32:09,730
So

3968
05:32:23,430 --> 05:32:27,810
16 has full year expenditures of $51 million.

3969
05:32:28,810 --> 05:32:33,730
For the entire year for the entire county, not just payroll.

3970
05:32:33,990 --> 05:32:35,730
And I'm explaining to you that just-

3971
05:32:35,730 --> 05:32:36,130
I'm not done.

3972
05:32:37,130 --> 05:32:44,630
Gina, within that, it shows the percentage for wages and salaries on item number 17 is 23,000,

3973
05:32:44,650 --> 05:32:48,350
23.5 million and benefits is 16.6.

3974
05:32:49,070 --> 05:32:51,170
So we're not at 64 million by a long shot.

3975
05:32:51,170 --> 05:32:51,970
Thank you.

3976
05:32:52,070 --> 05:32:53,570
Thank you for holding this.

3977
05:32:53,570 --> 05:32:56,310
No, if you were to look up on transparent Nevada, okay?

3978
05:32:56,870 --> 05:33:00,750
And that is a legitimate site where it shows the salaries.

3979
05:33:01,370 --> 05:33:05,330
On there, the total with benefits, okay, is 64 million.

3980
05:33:06,030 --> 05:33:10,990
Let's talk offline because I can explain some of the problems, some of the differences in

3981
05:33:10,990 --> 05:33:13,410
the information, the way it gets looked at.

3982
05:33:13,730 --> 05:33:14,190
Thank you, Zena.

3983
05:33:14,550 --> 05:33:15,350
That'd be really helpful.

3984
05:33:15,530 --> 05:33:16,010
Thank you, Zena.

3985
05:33:16,390 --> 05:33:20,490
And as for the Sheriff's Department and the jail, that should all be under one.

3986
05:33:20,490 --> 05:33:26,690
including the courts. That should be all under one grouping, not divided. And the Sheriff's

3987
05:33:26,690 --> 05:33:32,630
Department and the Fire Department are the last ones that should be questioned as this

3988
05:33:32,630 --> 05:33:36,770
hard and what's getting paid. What are you going to do? Stop a fireman from being in the middle

3989
05:33:36,770 --> 05:33:43,230
of a fire and tell him, oh, you can't pay him overtime. This is just, again, that's not even rational.

3990
05:33:44,070 --> 05:34:05,390
And to be honest with you, I am formally going to call for a forensic audit and for everything outgoing or incoming anything for everything to be on a freeze until everything's investigated because something is not right somewhere because all this money that's getting paid yet there's nothing in this town to show for whatsoever.

3991
05:34:07,590 --> 05:34:14,230
and Mr. Poskovich, you know, you can go ahead and make your facial expressions that's fine, it doesn't bother me one bit, sir, but it fends other people.

3992
05:34:14,270 --> 05:34:17,910
Your time is done, and I don't know how you say there's nothing to show for it.

3993
05:34:18,010 --> 05:34:19,010
There's nothing to show for it.

3994
05:34:19,150 --> 05:34:21,510
There's roads, there's park, I mean, good God.

3995
05:34:22,530 --> 05:34:24,030
Sam, do we have anybody on the phone, please?

3996
05:34:27,180 --> 05:34:30,620
Yes, Chair, the caller is unmuted. Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

3997
05:34:30,620 --> 05:34:31,460
Hello,

3998
05:34:34,190 --> 05:34:39,370
Commissioner Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-C-I-A. Can you hear me? Is my volume okay?

3999
05:34:39,510 --> 05:34:40,150
Go ahead, sir.

4000
05:34:42,170 --> 05:34:47,920
All right, I'm going to try to keep the peak for you. Sounds like you need to break these days.

4001
05:34:49,860 --> 05:34:55,380
But anyhow, I definitely want to point out the fact that there definitely need to be a

4002
05:34:55,380 --> 05:34:57,640
Borentic Audic and everybody.

4003
05:35:00,000 --> 05:35:26,640
We should be able to see that they're actually taking from a forum. The NRS is states that our taxes stay here. They can shuffle it all they want to see how they keep their foot. It should be looked at on the private side of the way they handle the public money. But anyhow, I do want to mention to the Marines in the house. Perhaps the only way to save this county is for county officials to start going to jail for the crimes they commit.

4004
05:35:27,940 --> 05:35:38,100
And notice that the DA didn't need a 2C county manager spoke on a previous agenda item when it came to this. I'm going to go ahead and point out the elephant.

4005
05:35:38,680 --> 05:35:45,480
The DA didn't need one of those permission slips to add a courtesy driver. You know, all that money's coming from where.

4006
05:35:46,060 --> 05:35:49,880
And how does that agenda item get on there? We all heard the DA screaming.

4007
05:35:49,880 --> 05:35:53,280
I can't do my job, I've got to have the resources.

4008
05:35:54,260 --> 05:35:55,400
What about that opinion?

4009
05:35:56,100 --> 05:35:57,620
First of all, permission to slip from him.

4010
05:35:58,500 --> 05:36:00,720
We counsel, we counsel.

4011
05:36:01,540 --> 05:36:02,300
Thank you all.

4012
05:36:03,420 --> 05:36:04,080
Go ahead Beth.

4013
05:36:05,440 --> 05:36:10,220
Beth for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

4014
05:36:10,560 --> 05:36:12,120
I am not an accountant.

4015
05:36:12,880 --> 05:36:14,280
I hate doing numbers.

4016
05:36:14,900 --> 05:36:19,780
I failed accounting in school, which I'm just not good at.

4017
05:36:19,780 --> 05:36:25,780
it. So I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and it might be obvious, but because I am

4018
05:36:25,780 --> 05:36:27,680
not an accountant, I need an answer.

4019
05:36:29,800 --> 05:36:35,420
Why don't departments budget potential overtime?

4020
05:36:36,360 --> 05:36:41,720
When I was in the construction field, and you got people out there pouring cement,

4021
05:36:42,120 --> 05:36:47,860
putting up blocks or whatever, there could potential be overtime because something

4022
05:36:47,860 --> 05:36:53,000
might happen there might be a delay in accident or something. But I think every department

4023
05:36:53,000 --> 05:36:59,160
should budget potential over time. That way it's going to give you guys a clear record

4024
05:36:59,160 --> 05:37:05,800
of what those departments are doing. So I don't know if that's a stupid idea, but I think

4025
05:37:05,800 --> 05:37:15,360
that would be the right way to do it. Right? Okay, Zena. She just smiles. The other thing

4026
05:37:15,360 --> 05:37:21,240
is I do not think we should talk about the police or the sheriff or the fire when it comes

4027
05:37:21,240 --> 05:37:24,180
to overtime, employees or anything.

4028
05:37:24,620 --> 05:37:32,120
Let's keep them off the side, talk about them in a totally different agenda item because

4029
05:37:32,120 --> 05:37:37,440
people get hung up on the police and the fire where the other departments kind of like slide

4030
05:37:37,440 --> 05:37:41,120
under the door and that's not good and we don't know where the money is going.

4031
05:37:41,820 --> 05:37:55,400
And then we reduced services and supplies, $1.7 million or no, 34% what were these services

4032
05:37:55,400 --> 05:38:02,320
and supplies that you guys went, that you have requests for $1.7 million, I'd like to

4033
05:38:02,320 --> 05:38:05,380
know what those are, that they need so very badly.

4034
05:38:07,460 --> 05:38:08,300
Thank you.

4035
05:38:08,300 --> 05:38:09,140
Thanks, Beth.

4036
05:38:09,500 --> 05:38:10,740
Sam, anybody on the phone, please.

4037
05:38:11,800 --> 05:38:12,160
No chair.

4038
05:38:13,160 --> 05:38:13,720
All right, Linda.

4039
05:38:14,900 --> 05:38:15,560
Real quick.

4040
05:38:15,740 --> 05:38:16,720
I just have a quick question.

4041
05:38:16,980 --> 05:38:18,060
Linda Clark, Cilli, OK.

4042
05:38:21,070 --> 05:38:22,790
Zena said just a few minutes ago.

4043
05:38:23,770 --> 05:38:24,550
Hold on here.

4044
05:38:26,170 --> 05:38:29,870
But the jail fund should be put in with the general fund.

4045
05:38:30,090 --> 05:38:30,290
Why?

4046
05:38:30,630 --> 05:38:31,670
And what would be the purpose?

4047
05:38:32,170 --> 05:38:33,330
Why would it be a benefit?

4048
05:38:35,580 --> 05:38:36,780
Joe doesn't even know.

4049
05:38:38,820 --> 05:38:39,480
You know, Joe?

4050
05:38:43,690 --> 05:38:45,990
OK, I just wanted an explanation for that.

4051
05:38:45,990 --> 05:38:50,570
If we had separate funds before a while of a sudden are we coming going those funds.

4052
05:38:50,830 --> 05:38:51,630
Thank you.

4053
05:38:51,750 --> 05:38:52,370
Thank you.

4054
05:38:52,510 --> 05:38:53,270
Sam, anybody else?

4055
05:38:54,190 --> 05:38:54,530
No chair.

4056
05:38:54,750 --> 05:38:55,490
Closing public.

4057
05:38:55,910 --> 05:38:56,510
Easy answer.

4058
05:38:56,910 --> 05:38:57,370
No income.

4059
05:38:57,850 --> 05:39:01,390
We had a jail fund established because we had a ICE contract.

4060
05:39:01,590 --> 05:39:02,410
We don't have one anymore.

4061
05:39:02,930 --> 05:39:03,330
Thank you chair.

4062
05:39:03,630 --> 05:39:03,910
Thank you.

4063
05:39:04,530 --> 05:39:05,350
All right, commissioners.

4064
05:39:05,430 --> 05:39:06,270
What are we doing with this?

4065
05:39:07,670 --> 05:39:09,530
I'll figure out how to do whatever we want.

4066
05:39:09,770 --> 05:39:13,110
I just want to say that, well, you know that commissioner.

4067
05:39:14,970 --> 05:39:19,330
Jibor had a great idea for his direction to staff, I'd like to see that.

4068
05:39:19,430 --> 05:39:20,030
And Bane.

4069
05:39:20,210 --> 05:39:22,270
And Bane, that they put that together.

4070
05:39:22,890 --> 05:39:27,210
But first and foremost, I would like to recognize when it comes to item number 16,

4071
05:39:28,090 --> 05:39:35,910
which is an overview of where we started with a 6.5, yeah, well it says 6.5 deficit.

4072
05:39:36,850 --> 05:39:40,710
And it's looking like by the time we get down with CTACs, we might have no deficit.

4073
05:39:40,710 --> 05:39:47,130
And that is by the hard work of this county in the town of Prump to make sure that happened and these commissioners

4074
05:39:47,130 --> 05:39:51,230
Haven't to take these hard hits for everybody out there telling us we're losing money in the meantime

4075
05:39:51,230 --> 05:39:59,290
We're tightening our belts and tightening our belts and tightening our belts. And so thank you Zana. Thank you to your financial team

4076
05:40:00,000 --> 05:40:12,420
Because you had to make sure all that got done and come up with the ideas to make it happen. Came from this board. So good job, board. Thank you, chair. Thank you, Commissioner, to board. Are you going to anything or Commissioner Bain?

4077
05:40:15,690 --> 05:40:31,990
Good, thank you. Thank you, Zena and team. Thank you. All right, do we have to vote on this? Lee, the direction was good enough. Okay, closing that out, moving to 2021. Believe it or not.

4078
05:40:34,020 --> 05:40:41,540
Item 21 general public comment up to three minute time limit per person, public comment will be for all matters off the agenda.

4079
05:40:41,880 --> 05:40:48,040
Public comment must be limited to matters that are within the jurisdiction and control of the board of county commissioners.

4080
05:40:48,440 --> 05:40:55,320
Action will not be taken on the matters considered during this period until specifically included on an agenda as an action item.

4081
05:40:55,620 --> 05:40:58,220
Thank you for that. All right, Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

4082
05:41:03,000 --> 05:41:03,460
No chair.

4083
05:41:03,460 --> 05:41:04,560
I'm on up, Susie.

4084
05:41:10,090 --> 05:41:12,210
Susie Hertz, H-E-R-T-Z.

4085
05:41:13,810 --> 05:41:20,350
Just something I noticed, I've noticed many times actually, and that has to do with

4086
05:41:20,350 --> 05:41:21,730
an expense of the county.

4087
05:41:22,530 --> 05:41:28,930
And that is, when I came in this morning, the sprinklers were running in the eye all over

4088
05:41:28,930 --> 05:41:39,390
the grass. Where I come from, which is a less drought-strickened area, people generally

4089
05:41:39,390 --> 05:41:46,870
watered their grass in their plants at night time when the winds were usually calmer and

4090
05:41:46,870 --> 05:41:54,670
it was quieter and it was more effective use of the water. So I might make a suggestion

4091
05:41:55,310 --> 05:42:02,330
that that be looked at here, everywhere you go throughout town, where there's any public land,

4092
05:42:03,010 --> 05:42:05,070
the sprinklers are always running in the daytime.

4093
05:42:05,450 --> 05:42:08,670
The wind blows the water away, it doesn't water what you're watering.

4094
05:42:09,410 --> 05:42:14,030
Today there was a guy with his dog in the park and he couldn't use the park.

4095
05:42:14,030 --> 05:42:18,550
He was walking around the edge on the pavement because he couldn't get to the grass.

4096
05:42:18,550 --> 05:42:19,750
I

4097
05:42:21,860 --> 05:42:27,480
hate to repeat myself, but until something changes, I guess, I'll have to.

4098
05:42:27,840 --> 05:42:36,900
And that is to reinforce the fact that we who live here, have moved here or have come

4099
05:42:36,900 --> 05:42:41,140
here to live in a rural, small community.

4100
05:42:42,980 --> 05:42:47,760
And that doesn't mean we're against change and it doesn't mean we're against progress.

4101
05:42:47,760 --> 05:43:02,980
Any of us who came from somewhere else came from a much more metropolitan environment that this so we're used to living a much higher life and a much more sophisticated life, but we've chosen to come here and be here and live here.

4102
05:43:03,540 --> 05:43:11,400
And I would respectfully ask that this county administration and everybody in it, keep that in mind.

4103
05:43:11,800 --> 05:43:12,540
Thank you, Susie.

4104
05:43:12,680 --> 05:43:12,960
Thank you.

4105
05:43:12,960 --> 05:43:14,340
So, I have anybody on the phone, please.

4106
05:43:17,470 --> 05:43:18,970
Yes, chair of the caller is unmuted.

4107
05:43:19,250 --> 05:43:20,850
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

4108
05:43:24,160 --> 05:43:26,660
Yeah, my name is Matt Sadler, F-A-D-L-E-R.

4109
05:43:27,260 --> 05:43:28,300
Good meeting commissioners.

4110
05:43:29,640 --> 05:43:31,860
I want to put something on the radar here.

4111
05:43:32,040 --> 05:43:33,340
I'm coming down the line.

4112
05:43:34,100 --> 05:43:35,300
Or that I've been here in Romans, though.

4113
05:43:35,420 --> 05:43:38,200
It's a municipal Perump police force,

4114
05:43:38,320 --> 05:43:41,640
which would add a level of bureaucracy in our community

4115
05:43:41,640 --> 05:43:44,640
that I would urge you to really question

4116
05:43:44,640 --> 05:43:46,460
as to whether or not we would need that.

4117
05:43:46,460 --> 05:43:48,640
My personal opinion, no way.

4118
05:43:49,240 --> 05:43:52,340
You've already gotten rid of something like that in the past in the form of a town board.

4119
05:43:52,940 --> 05:43:54,080
I don't think we need that again.

4120
05:43:54,320 --> 05:43:55,260
We don't need that expense.

4121
05:43:56,360 --> 05:44:00,040
Focus resources on bolstering the existing NIE County Sheriff's Office, please.

4122
05:44:00,380 --> 05:44:00,640
Thank you.

4123
05:44:01,240 --> 05:44:01,780
Thank you.

4124
05:44:01,840 --> 05:44:02,380
Come on up, Linda.

4125
05:44:06,600 --> 05:44:08,060
Linda Clark, Salie, okay.

4126
05:44:08,460 --> 05:44:12,540
I just have a couple of observations from a couple of things that were on the agenda earlier,

4127
05:44:12,540 --> 05:44:14,760
so I hope that I can speak to those.

4128
05:44:18,660 --> 05:44:24,040
When Mr. Sutton was up here talking about the project that he is representing, they talked

4129
05:44:24,040 --> 05:44:27,640
a lot about what they're going to do over there, and the thing that really threw me off

4130
05:44:27,640 --> 05:44:31,280
the most, and I'm sure the people that live up there in that area are really concerned

4131
05:44:31,280 --> 05:44:39,320
about it, is water, not once did they mention water and what they're going to be using, and

4132
05:44:39,320 --> 05:44:42,120
that seems to be kind of a concern.

4133
05:44:42,120 --> 05:44:49,780
they did say that they were going to put in a park. Okay, the park needs to be

4134
05:44:49,780 --> 05:44:54,300
watered and I'm assuming that the park is below where they were going to put

4135
05:44:54,300 --> 05:44:57,600
there whatever that thing was that they were going to keep the water from I

4136
05:44:57,600 --> 05:44:58,660
don't know the technical terms.

4137
05:45:00,340 --> 05:45:29,940
Basin thing? That was going to be below the basin? Was the park going to be above it? In it. Okay, so if we have a flood, or some other kind of problems, and we know that area up there is a flood zone, and they do have flooding up there, really bad. At the one meeting that we had, a lot of people did complain about it. And they were so upset that they all left be at the end of the thing because of the decisions that were made. People just walked out. It was disgusting, but it happened.

4138
05:45:29,940 --> 05:45:31,140
and it was deserved.

4139
05:45:31,860 --> 05:45:34,380
So, my question is if we're going to put a park

4140
05:45:34,800 --> 05:45:37,040
where there's a possibility of that we could have a flood

4141
05:45:37,040 --> 05:45:38,740
and kids could get hurt,

4142
05:45:39,560 --> 05:45:42,480
gee, we'll have another splash pad that is unauthorized.

4143
05:45:42,940 --> 05:45:47,460
So why wouldn't we care about that?

4144
05:45:48,120 --> 05:45:50,180
I mean, obviously these kids could get hurt.

4145
05:45:50,340 --> 05:45:51,680
Somebody could get hurt really bad.

4146
05:45:52,500 --> 05:45:56,420
And they weren't talking about the water and the flooding.

4147
05:45:56,640 --> 05:45:59,160
They were talking about an area

4148
05:45:59,160 --> 05:46:04,780
were they're going to put a park and they're obviously going to be using water so I don't

4149
05:46:04,780 --> 05:46:10,880
understand the why we would put something in an area where the kids could be hurt.

4150
05:46:11,120 --> 05:46:11,500
Thank you Linda.

4151
05:46:11,900 --> 05:46:12,040
Yes.

4152
05:46:12,420 --> 05:46:13,720
Am we on anybody on the phone please?

4153
05:46:14,320 --> 05:46:17,720
Yes chair the caller is unmuted please be given a spell your name for the record.

4154
05:46:22,010 --> 05:46:37,650
I was going to talk about all the building and all the constructions that are going on with the solar farms.

4155
05:46:38,670 --> 05:46:48,970
The water is a huge issue and we keep making plans to build more houses and put more people out here.

4156
05:46:48,970 --> 05:46:59,790
and we just we just don't have the water and our infrastructure is failing. We keep raising taxes on

4157
05:46:59,790 --> 05:47:09,490
the few of us that pay taxes on our homes to support the entire county and that has to change

4158
05:47:09,490 --> 05:47:19,170
true. We have to have some other forms be it fundraisers or something that the county

4159
05:47:19,170 --> 05:47:27,830
can do to involve the people, to trust the government, to be close to the government,

4160
05:47:28,390 --> 05:47:36,330
and be part of it. But it's something to think about. I don't know if any of you are interested

4161
05:47:36,330 --> 05:47:40,650
Now, maybe our new board will be, but thank you.

4162
05:47:41,410 --> 05:47:41,870
Thanks, Amy.

4163
05:47:42,550 --> 05:47:43,790
Come on down, please.

4164
05:47:48,960 --> 05:47:51,200
Angelina Jackson, JAC, KSON.

4165
05:47:51,880 --> 05:47:53,740
I'm not sure if we're being given two or three minutes.

4166
05:47:54,240 --> 05:47:55,900
At the time, we're set for two or three minutes.

4167
05:47:56,700 --> 05:47:58,760
Mr. Wagner said that it was going to be for three minutes.

4168
05:48:00,340 --> 05:48:01,520
It's two minutes, all day.

4169
05:48:01,560 --> 05:48:02,860
Mr. Wagner said it three minutes.

4170
05:48:03,040 --> 05:48:04,040
Mr. Boyce, in your own time.

4171
05:48:06,860 --> 05:48:11,840
First of all, I would like to address the board, I don't know which one of you made

4172
05:48:11,840 --> 05:48:14,280
the comment, something about refer to somebody as a scumbag.

4173
05:48:15,280 --> 05:48:20,340
That is uncalled for and does not represent a way that a commissioner should behave.

4174
05:48:21,200 --> 05:48:24,380
Also the fact that it's going well, that's not my district.

4175
05:48:24,920 --> 05:48:29,340
If you're a commissioner on this board for the county, it's not just your district that

4176
05:48:29,340 --> 05:48:31,900
you're responsible for, it's the entire county.

4177
05:48:31,900 --> 05:48:40,340
So sitting there and, you know, not putting your input and not being concerned about it, then you shouldn't be a part of this board if that's all you're going to do.

4178
05:48:41,360 --> 05:48:55,800
Second or next, Mr. Bane, you running around the park filming the homeless and filming the garbage can in the park is, excuse me, sir, but it made you look like a deranged lunatic.

4179
05:48:57,240 --> 05:49:06,500
that was just unbecoming of anybody, whether in an office or not. And it kind of represents

4180
05:49:06,500 --> 05:49:10,480
though the way that this whole commission has been behaving, like to arrange lunatics.

4181
05:49:11,300 --> 05:49:15,860
So I think you need to set back and look at your own behaviors before you go scrutinizing

4182
05:49:15,860 --> 05:49:20,860
anybody else's decorum, like that word you guys like to throw around but have no meaning

4183
05:49:20,860 --> 05:49:29,980
what it means. You want respect? Give respect back. Act like you deserve it. And it's

4184
05:49:29,980 --> 05:49:34,740
edited that there's a many of the board members here that don't give a damn about the community.

4185
05:49:35,760 --> 05:49:41,120
What's so whatever? Because they don't want to listen. And that's fine. Because the only people

4186
05:49:41,120 --> 05:49:47,240
who are looking like a fool here are you guys not me and not nobody else out here. And again,

4187
05:49:47,240 --> 05:49:50,560
And I will be calling for that forensic audit at everybody's payroll.

4188
05:49:51,120 --> 05:49:51,760
You're welcome.

4189
05:49:51,920 --> 05:49:53,180
Do we have anybody on the phone, please?

4190
05:49:53,900 --> 05:49:54,460
Yes, chair.

4191
05:49:54,500 --> 05:49:55,460
The caller is unmuted.

4192
05:49:55,720 --> 05:49:57,440
Please speak and spell your name for the record.

4193
05:50:00,660 --> 05:50:07,440
The church of rub, the RLBD, two minutes to speak. Wow. Is this going to be something that's

4194
05:50:07,440 --> 05:50:11,700
going to be two minutes going forward, or are we going to go back to our three minutes?

4195
05:50:12,240 --> 05:50:19,600
I had prepared information to share with you that is very valuable, and I was cut off.

4196
05:50:19,900 --> 05:50:25,360
So I just want to remind you to please get with the Regional Planning Commission to get

4197
05:50:25,360 --> 05:50:32,260
on their agenda in regards to the overlay ordinance that they're working on. The owners are waiting.

4198
05:50:32,740 --> 05:50:38,220
The owners are frustrated. The owners talk to me and tell me everything that's going on,

4199
05:50:38,260 --> 05:50:44,480
but they build you're not listening and they don't want to talk to you. So I'm sorry, I don't want

4200
05:50:44,480 --> 05:50:49,980
to have to carry a double of this. Along with Lorraine, we show up at every meeting or we call

4201
05:50:49,980 --> 05:50:55,220
meeting. These people want us to carry their burden in their load and they're

4202
05:50:55,220 --> 05:51:01,480
frustrated. I just want to remind you that NRS chapters 244 and 278 together

4203
05:51:01,480 --> 05:51:06,440
reflect that balance between development, property rights and public needs,

4204
05:51:07,000 --> 05:51:12,380
regulation should not leave properties permanently useless without considering a

4205
05:51:12,380 --> 05:51:18,280
reasonable pathway forward. And we've provided that. Everyone should have a backup

4206
05:51:18,280 --> 05:51:19,980
that plan when it comes to water.

4207
05:51:20,440 --> 05:51:22,520
Everyone should be able to understand

4208
05:51:22,520 --> 05:51:24,240
how conservation works.

4209
05:51:24,920 --> 05:51:26,420
That's what I want to say.

4210
05:51:26,640 --> 05:51:27,140
Thank you.

4211
05:51:27,860 --> 05:51:28,280
Thank you.

4212
05:51:28,440 --> 05:51:29,060
Come on down, Beth.

4213
05:51:33,420 --> 05:51:37,780
Beth for Savage, B-O-R-Y-S-E-W-I-C-H.

4214
05:51:39,120 --> 05:51:41,960
Four years ago, I set up a site

4215
05:51:41,960 --> 05:51:45,420
and complained about VA raising our rates

4216
05:51:45,420 --> 05:51:49,300
out of the blue one month before they instituted them.

4217
05:51:50,280 --> 05:51:51,460
Nobody knew about it.

4218
05:51:51,460 --> 05:51:53,600
I called and raised Holy Hell.

4219
05:51:54,000 --> 05:52:02,860
I started a website and it kind of morphed into not only VA, now it's morphed into

4220
05:52:03,600 --> 05:52:12,020
Nye County as well as some out of county towns that have called ask questions.

4221
05:52:12,840 --> 05:52:19,940
And it has involved the majority of people in the town that are on Facebook and I want

4222
05:52:19,940 --> 05:52:27,360
to say I am damn proud of all these people standing up and voicing their opinion.

4223
05:52:28,360 --> 05:52:35,000
Everyone of you guys that do any kind of research, I want to say good job.

4224
05:52:36,020 --> 05:52:39,620
Keep it up because that's what the whole thing was about.

4225
05:52:40,600 --> 05:52:46,600
And it's not to yell at you, I don't know you guys personally.

4226
05:52:47,400 --> 05:52:53,300
I can yell at you though about the things that are happening because of my frustration.

4227
05:52:54,260 --> 05:52:59,600
And if anybody hates you personally, you then, you know, okay, but I don't know you

4228
05:52:59,600 --> 05:53:00,680
so I can't hate you.

4229
05:53:01,360 --> 05:53:05,620
But sometimes, you know, it gets really frustrating when we ask a question.

4230
05:53:06,100 --> 05:53:11,900
There's no follow-through with people say they send an email and they don't get a response.

4231
05:53:11,900 --> 05:53:19,680
You guys have all been good at returning my emails because I guess I'm a pain in the butt and I just keep emailing until I get an answer.

4232
05:53:20,700 --> 05:53:28,500
So I just want to say, I'm not yelling at you and I don't think everybody is yelling at you.

4233
05:53:28,860 --> 05:53:32,860
They're just yelling at the circumstances that we find ourselves in.

4234
05:53:33,700 --> 05:53:38,440
So I'm not speaking for everybody, but thank you.

4235
05:53:38,540 --> 05:53:38,800
Thank you.

4236
05:53:39,140 --> 05:53:40,340
Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

4237
05:53:41,260 --> 05:53:41,720
Yes, chair.

4238
05:53:41,760 --> 05:53:42,720
The caller is unmuted.

4239
05:53:43,000 --> 05:53:44,680
Please speak in the spell your name for the record.

4240
05:53:47,930 --> 05:53:48,330
Bruce.

4241
05:53:48,650 --> 05:53:48,870
Hello.

4242
05:53:49,310 --> 05:53:51,230
Commissioner Bruce Johnson, J.O.H.N.

4243
05:53:51,430 --> 05:53:51,710
S.O.N.

4244
05:53:53,270 --> 05:53:54,410
I'll be honest with you.

4245
05:53:54,590 --> 05:53:59,010
I want to just want to applaud everybody that's stepped right here, stepped up right here.

4246
05:53:59,350 --> 05:54:06,410
And the comments being made pretty much, I'm going to reiterate the same things.

4247
05:54:07,510 --> 05:54:12,290
You guys really need to learn where your grants of authority is at.

4248
05:54:13,730 --> 05:54:17,910
And Mr. Boschovich, you think these notices don't mean nothing?

4249
05:54:21,800 --> 05:54:23,220
You're going to find out, sir.

4250
05:54:24,060 --> 05:54:24,800
Take them seriously.

4251
05:54:26,360 --> 05:54:27,000
And I yield.

4252
05:54:28,300 --> 05:54:29,240
Go on down in front, please.

4253
05:54:35,600 --> 05:54:37,140
Good afternoon or good evening.

4254
05:54:38,200 --> 05:54:38,760
Commissioners.

4255
05:54:39,880 --> 05:54:41,500
My name's Emma Valendor.

4256
05:54:41,500 --> 05:54:47,260
E-M-M-A-V-E-L-A-D-O-R, and I am from Amragosa Valley Nevada.

4257
05:54:47,760 --> 05:54:50,940
I grew up in Perump, but I moved to Amragosa.

4258
05:54:51,640 --> 05:54:58,940
I love Perump, and I love Amragosa, and I want to believe that you do care about the

4259
05:54:58,940 --> 05:54:59,840
residents of America.

4260
05:55:00,000 --> 05:55:11,220
Especially those who are totally against the Amorgosa National Conservation Area. Our town manager,

4261
05:55:11,400 --> 05:55:17,740
I'm sorry not our town manager, our town board, chairwoman or chairman has called it

4262
05:55:17,740 --> 05:55:24,880
Ash Meadows National Conservation Area. That's the song that's been sung to us. But in the

4263
05:55:24,880 --> 05:55:29,960
documents that she has submitted to you, folks, and the public lands department of which

4264
05:55:29,960 --> 05:55:30,820
I have seen many.

4265
05:55:31,320 --> 05:55:38,080
It is the Amargosa National Conservation Area, and that's really scary because that means

4266
05:55:38,080 --> 05:55:43,140
it's no longer just Ash Meadows or Save Ash Meadows.

4267
05:55:43,620 --> 05:55:52,160
It is the entire Amargosa Valley that is going to be converted into a national monument or

4268
05:55:52,160 --> 05:55:58,680
national conservation area which means that that's going to restrict our rights as property owners,

4269
05:55:59,040 --> 05:56:05,540
our wells, if they go dry, the conservation, this so-called conservation thing can come in

4270
05:56:05,540 --> 05:56:10,400
and say, you know what, if your well is dry too bad, we're not going to let you drill another

4271
05:56:10,400 --> 05:56:17,920
well. Our taxes are going to go up and that's already been proven with other places where property

4272
05:56:17,920 --> 05:56:24,400
already taxes have gone up, where people live close to a conservation area or a national

4273
05:56:24,400 --> 05:56:29,920
conservation area or a park. We don't want that. We're not asking for that. We're not

4274
05:56:29,920 --> 05:56:36,760
the ones looking for trouble. So I don't understand why our chairman feels that she can be doing

4275
05:56:36,760 --> 05:56:40,360
this to us. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you so very much.

4276
05:56:40,480 --> 05:56:42,860
Thank you. Sam, do we have anybody on the phone please?

4277
05:56:43,140 --> 05:56:46,400
Yes, Chair Collar is unmuted. Please speak and spell your name for the record.

4278
05:56:50,250 --> 05:56:56,890
Hello, commissioners, Michael David Garcia, G-A-R-S-D-I-A, and I'll show you this will be the last time I asked you today.

4279
05:56:57,130 --> 05:57:01,230
Look, can you hear me? Okay. Go ahead. It is the last time.

4280
05:57:03,450 --> 05:57:04,510
Thank you. Thank you.

4281
05:57:05,770 --> 05:57:12,330
I appreciate it. I hope I don't get charged for the laughter, but anyhow, I want to start off on the right foot when it comes to

4282
05:57:12,330 --> 05:57:14,310
spiritual warfare and spiritual attacks.

4283
05:57:14,550 --> 05:57:18,270
I definitely want to thank and praise the Jim Mars family

4284
05:57:18,270 --> 05:57:20,930
for sharing their Bible with us.

4285
05:57:21,590 --> 05:57:24,870
And I'm hoping that gentlemen will bring it up

4286
05:57:24,870 --> 05:57:26,890
and share some more verses with us.

4287
05:57:27,430 --> 05:57:30,150
And with God, nothing's impossible.

4288
05:57:30,850 --> 05:57:35,250
Everybody, our natural rights, our natural prosperity

4289
05:57:35,250 --> 05:57:37,990
is under attack in every way, shape, and form.

4290
05:57:38,510 --> 05:57:39,750
It's time we stand up.

4291
05:57:39,750 --> 05:57:52,310
We see it across. It's every county, every state, 2300 children a day go missing in this country and we have a problem talking about it. As Christians, we need to rise.

4292
05:57:53,010 --> 05:58:01,650
We need to rise, you know, so for some of these rainbows, you need to go to Leviticus 38, Romans 26, 27.

4293
05:58:01,650 --> 05:58:05,510
and prayer does nothing without declaration and decree.

4294
05:58:06,030 --> 05:58:09,030
It's all about obedience, sin and Greek

4295
05:58:09,030 --> 05:58:10,550
is when you miss the target.

4296
05:58:11,110 --> 05:58:14,730
Repent and Greek is when you adjust the mind.

4297
05:58:14,990 --> 05:58:17,730
It has nothing to do about your feelings, your remorse.

4298
05:58:18,470 --> 05:58:21,530
And for me, it's about Matthew, the discernment,

4299
05:58:22,030 --> 05:58:24,890
plus revelations, plus Psalm 109,

4300
05:58:25,070 --> 05:58:27,770
and let Satan himself stand over your shoulders,

4301
05:58:27,770 --> 05:58:31,510
but the liability is coming, civil and criminal,

4302
05:58:33,670 --> 05:58:37,330
lukewarm Christians, no problem, bring them all,

4303
05:58:37,970 --> 05:58:39,870
the devil only attacks what he owns,

4304
05:58:40,910 --> 05:58:44,490
what he doesn't know, think about it, think about it,

4305
05:58:44,650 --> 05:58:46,570
where are you at, no bill or rights,

4306
05:58:47,230 --> 05:58:48,910
what good is the constitutional oath?

4307
05:58:49,550 --> 05:58:52,930
Bring it, 355 times out shall not fear,

4308
05:58:53,410 --> 05:58:55,570
bring your DA, bring your minister.

4309
05:59:01,070 --> 05:59:08,290
I think there's a misconception about the national conservation area only being for

4310
05:59:08,290 --> 05:59:10,070
Amagosa Ash Meadows.

4311
05:59:10,590 --> 05:59:13,610
This is hence the word national, this affects everybody.

4312
05:59:14,450 --> 05:59:20,690
So this will affect paramp crystal, Johnny off-road clubs, horseback riding, rock hounding.

4313
05:59:20,690 --> 05:59:26,970
This national conservation area has been in the works for years with Susan Soros of Shoshone,

4314
05:59:27,190 --> 05:59:29,210
Amargosa Conservancy, Fish and Wildlife.

4315
05:59:29,730 --> 05:59:31,390
They've been working on this for a long time.

4316
05:59:31,550 --> 05:59:33,950
Remember the 40-mile radius around Devil's Hole?

4317
05:59:34,110 --> 05:59:38,030
That was stopped because that would affect private property and water-right owners.

4318
05:59:38,450 --> 05:59:42,010
If this goes through, that will be implemented in effect stakeholders.

4319
05:59:42,430 --> 05:59:43,410
Then it was lithium.

4320
05:59:43,930 --> 05:59:44,930
Then they stopped that.

4321
05:59:45,230 --> 05:59:49,330
Now they want to put a 20-year withdrawal mineral withdrawal around that.

4322
05:59:49,330 --> 05:59:52,330
There's pre-existing claims, this doesn't affect them.

4323
05:59:52,730 --> 05:59:54,730
We have a lot of rich minerals there.

4324
05:59:54,910 --> 05:59:58,090
If you put in a 20-year mineral withdrawal, this will affect...

4325
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:27,060
It's been mining there for over 60 years or good stewards of the land, and they already have pre-existing claims. So I don't know how the NCA will protect them. It could only hurt them if they close off roads. The town has been working on 18 solar farms. And so I just lost my spot. They've been working on 18 solar farms. So how is that going to save us out there? They're going in.

4326
06:00:27,060 --> 06:00:32,540
So, taking 186,000 acres of land is going to do nothing to help us.

4327
06:00:32,700 --> 06:00:34,760
I'm asking you guys to please stop this.

4328
06:00:35,800 --> 06:00:37,180
We don't need this.

4329
06:00:37,520 --> 06:00:38,840
They got enough of our land.

4330
06:00:39,280 --> 06:00:41,980
They're not good stewards of the land, so please stop it.

4331
06:00:42,320 --> 06:00:42,680
Thank you.

4332
06:00:42,940 --> 06:00:43,640
Thank you, Nat.

4333
06:00:43,920 --> 06:00:45,100
Sam, anybody on the phone, please?

4334
06:00:46,260 --> 06:00:47,520
I think you've already seen it.

4335
06:00:47,520 --> 06:00:47,840
No, chair.

4336
06:00:57,220 --> 06:00:58,380
Oh, yeah, there is none.

4337
06:00:58,880 --> 06:00:59,560
It's a presentation.

4338
06:01:01,060 --> 06:01:01,520
Sorry.

4339
06:01:01,940 --> 06:01:02,500
Go ahead, Sam.

4340
06:01:03,520 --> 06:01:04,040
There's no.

4341
06:01:04,040 --> 06:01:06,920
Okay. Come on up.

4342
06:01:16,610 --> 06:01:23,230
Paul Lemus, L-E-M-U-S, when he is judged, let him come forth guilty.

4343
06:01:24,350 --> 06:01:31,210
That's the Palms 109 Chapter 7 that the gentleman had requested for. I want to say today,

4344
06:01:31,710 --> 06:01:36,830
if anybody is a victim of their HOA selectively enforcing them, in other words, your neighbor

4345
06:01:36,830 --> 06:01:41,170
gets in trouble for having their garbage can out, you don't, or vice versa.

4346
06:01:41,950 --> 06:01:44,990
There's a group with the Real Estate Amps Budsman.

4347
06:01:45,410 --> 06:01:46,630
This is on our website too.

4348
06:01:47,090 --> 06:01:48,250
Anybody can link in.

4349
06:01:48,290 --> 06:01:49,790
You can make a complaint formally.

4350
06:01:50,410 --> 06:01:55,250
There's all kinds of complaint forms, by the way, on our website, govoversite.com.

4351
06:01:55,570 --> 06:01:59,770
For the Inspector General, a matter of fact, associated with the condition of Ash Meadows,

4352
06:02:00,150 --> 06:02:04,130
maybe some people should go on there and go ahead and make a report associated with that.

4353
06:02:04,130 --> 06:02:10,910
But the Amps Budsman's office will come out. They can do something called an alternative dispute resolution for you and your HOA

4354
06:02:10,910 --> 06:02:15,950
Which will give you a little bit more rights and stuff and kind of balance the waters if you have some kind of a

4355
06:02:15,950 --> 06:02:20,930
Terranical or out of control HOA. I have some flyers here if anybody needs those. These little

4356
06:02:21,970 --> 06:02:28,910
Quasite governmental places right now are kind of being swirmed and taken over by people that maybe not are of the spirit and so

4357
06:02:28,910 --> 06:02:32,990
Sometimes you might have to just call these guys to say hey, I need a fair shake

4358
06:02:32,990 --> 06:02:39,190
I wanted to drop off today, these are the documents that Mr. Marsh wanted me to drop off.

4359
06:02:39,290 --> 06:02:40,810
Could I leave them here on for the desk?

4360
06:02:41,150 --> 06:02:44,050
This is from to each commissioner from Mr. Jim Marsh.

4361
06:02:44,330 --> 06:02:48,030
These are also some affected landowners who had no idea about this, that absolutely did

4362
06:02:48,030 --> 06:02:50,770
not want the conservancy, and I've made plenty of copies for all of you.

4363
06:02:52,430 --> 06:02:59,590
This here is the cease and desist letter to Amargosa Conservancy, and I wish you take service

4364
06:02:59,590 --> 06:03:01,090
today because I'd like to serve it to you.

4365
06:03:02,270 --> 06:03:03,030
Thank you

4366
06:03:09,910 --> 06:03:14,030
very much. Have a good day. Thank you. Go ahead and tell them, Paul, please.

4367
06:03:17,900 --> 06:03:21,540
Oh, my daughter. Good evening. My daughter drew a cross for you guys.

4368
06:03:23,260 --> 06:03:30,540
I'm sorry. Go ahead. Good evening. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Matt Raider, R-A-D-E-R.

4369
06:03:31,260 --> 06:03:34,440
I'm the Emergo Survivor Project Manager for the Nature Conservancy.

4370
06:03:34,440 --> 06:03:39,640
I grew up in Probe, I live in Bating now, so it means a lot to me have a chance to speak

4371
06:03:39,640 --> 06:03:41,560
on behalf of my organization today.

4372
06:03:42,560 --> 06:03:44,820
I want to clarify a few facts for the public record.

4373
06:03:45,660 --> 06:03:50,300
The Nature Conservancy is a science-based conservation organization dedicated to protecting

4374
06:03:50,300 --> 06:03:52,860
the lands and waters to sustain people and nature.

4375
06:03:54,180 --> 06:03:59,760
Nature Conservancy is not involved in the proposed national conservation area that's discussed

4376
06:03:59,760 --> 06:04:04,980
yesterday, and we would not receive land or funding if the proposal were to move forward.

4377
06:04:05,860 --> 06:04:10,840
Nature Conservancy has worked to protect the unique species, habitats, and water resources

4378
06:04:10,840 --> 06:04:13,400
of the Amargosa watershed for decades.

4379
06:04:14,380 --> 06:04:20,420
In 1983, the Nature Conservancy acquired more than 13,000 acres in Ash Meadows to prevent

4380
06:04:20,420 --> 06:04:25,720
the area from being developed into a proposed 20,000 lot subdivision.

4381
06:04:25,720 --> 06:04:31,800
The land was later transferred to the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, and Ash Meadows

4382
06:04:31,800 --> 06:04:34,960
National Wildlife Refuge was established in 1984.

4383
06:04:35,960 --> 06:04:41,000
The Refuge protects springs, wetlands, and desert habitats that support a remarkable diversity

4384
06:04:41,000 --> 06:04:45,440
of plants and wildlife, including many species that are nor else in the world.

4385
06:04:46,380 --> 06:04:52,240
However, the Nature Conservancy does not own land within the refuge today, and is not involved

4386
06:04:52,240 --> 06:04:55,160
with the national conservation area that's being discussed.

4387
06:04:55,820 --> 06:04:58,160
I really appreciate the opportunity to provide this clarification.

4388
06:05:00,000 --> 06:05:12,680
And ensure the public record accurately reflects the nature, conservancy's role with respect to the proposal being discussed. Thank you, and have a nice night. Thank you very much. Come on down and, Peron, please.

4389
06:05:17,960 --> 06:05:34,300
Mason Vale, the OEHL for the record. I am the executive director of Amorgos Conservancy, a local nonprofit organization with a mission of working toward a sustainable future for the Amorgos River through science, stewardship and advocacy. I want to clarify, organization is a private, non-government organization.

4390
06:05:34,300 --> 06:05:39,340
organization with no role or authority whatsoever in the management of Ash Meadows.

4391
06:05:39,900 --> 06:05:43,000
Therefore, concerns about management need to be addressed to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife

4392
06:05:43,000 --> 06:05:43,480
Service.

4393
06:05:44,540 --> 06:05:48,600
Anyone who follows the work of our organization knows that over the years we have showed

4394
06:05:48,600 --> 06:05:54,640
up again and again before this commission, town boards, tribal councils, communities throughout

4395
06:05:54,640 --> 06:05:59,380
the region and the spirit of respect and cooperation to address threats facing the Emergo

4396
06:05:59,380 --> 06:06:05,140
a river and to help shape solutions to give the river and everyone that depends on it a fighting chance of the future.

4397
06:06:06,040 --> 06:06:10,660
Just three years ago, I stood right here, came before the county to raise the alarm about rover critical minerals

4398
06:06:10,660 --> 06:06:16,460
and then reckless lithium mining proposal on the doorstep of Ash Meadows. Together with the county's support,

4399
06:06:16,640 --> 06:06:21,720
we were able to stop that threat in its tracks. And that's an example of the kind of work organization is here

4400
06:06:21,720 --> 06:06:28,500
to do to protect water and wildlife in that county. Everyone has the right to express their views,

4401
06:06:28,500 --> 06:06:32,420
participate in public processes that determine how our lands and waters are managed.

4402
06:06:32,780 --> 06:06:37,260
In fact, it's critical that everyone that cares about places like Ash Meadows and the

4403
06:06:37,260 --> 06:06:38,980
Emergo Survivor continue to do so.

4404
06:06:39,540 --> 06:06:43,700
Our organization enjoys and exercises that right of free speech as well.

4405
06:06:44,360 --> 06:06:48,260
We look forward to continuing to address the myriad threats to the Emergo Survivor in the

4406
06:06:48,260 --> 06:06:52,740
spirit of respect and cooperation with Nye County and its communities because Chair Boscovitch

4407
06:06:52,740 --> 06:06:55,020
was correct in his opening remarks this morning.

4408
06:06:55,460 --> 06:06:56,660
We have to figure this out together.

4409
06:06:56,920 --> 06:06:57,700
Thank you, commissioners.

4410
06:06:58,560 --> 06:07:00,400
Thank you, Sam. Anybody on the phone, please?

4411
06:07:04,160 --> 06:07:04,260
Yeah.

4412
06:07:04,760 --> 06:07:05,380
My name

4413
06:07:09,470 --> 06:07:13,010
is Cindy Bedean to be the IENT.

4414
06:07:14,330 --> 06:07:20,310
I have a place in Amorgosa and Crystal, and sorry, I can't talk about it.

4415
06:07:21,450 --> 06:07:27,830
I say no to the NCI, I've did a lot of research, and the wild and the fishing game came out

4416
06:07:27,830 --> 06:07:32,450
there, and they're trying to do the same thing they did to us, and they ruined our properties

4417
06:07:32,450 --> 06:07:32,870
out there.

4418
06:07:32,870 --> 06:07:36,130
So let's say no. Thank you. Thank you very much.

4419
06:07:37,130 --> 06:07:38,450
Come on, Victor.

4420
06:07:43,400 --> 06:07:45,740
Victor Fuentes, FUE and TES.

4421
06:07:47,520 --> 06:07:52,840
Well, we have a environmentalist over here today. That is good to see, you know,

4422
06:07:54,220 --> 06:07:58,600
they protect everything. They protect everything except us, the humans.

4423
06:07:58,960 --> 06:08:06,220
We are the endangered species in Amargosa and Ashmeros. In Ashmeros,

4424
06:08:06,220 --> 06:08:12,400
they have killed everything. I cannot see one thing that they are saving in Ashmeadows.

4425
06:08:14,060 --> 06:08:20,700
And everyone here in this room can go over there and see with their own eyes what they

4426
06:08:20,700 --> 06:08:24,200
have done to Ashmeadows. When these people talk Ashmeadows, you know,

4427
06:08:24,340 --> 06:08:31,100
teaching about life, it was a beauty, it was a oasis. People can write their horses, you know,

4428
06:08:31,100 --> 06:08:37,920
they can go over there and swim in a crystal pool, you know, the families that go over there,

4429
06:08:37,980 --> 06:08:41,840
they have a lot of recreation over there, they have a lot of fun and a lot of people,

4430
06:08:42,500 --> 06:08:48,100
Debra, you know, many of you will be hearing in this room, they enjoy that place. They used to

4431
06:08:48,100 --> 06:08:57,060
enjoy that place. You go to Ashmer today and it's a fire waiting to happen. The last thing that they

4432
06:08:57,060 --> 06:09:01,900
done is to drain the reservoir and with that whole bunch of fish die and my

4433
06:09:01,900 --> 06:09:06,420
property every time that they cut off my water my water is cut off right now as

4434
06:09:06,420 --> 06:09:10,780
we speak it's cut off right now you can go over there to my property now and see

4435
06:09:10,780 --> 06:09:16,340
the fish dying and the water right now they are not saving anything they are

4436
06:09:16,340 --> 06:09:23,440
destroying everything in marshmallows and so I don't see why we should give in

4437
06:09:23,440 --> 06:09:29,880
these people one more inch a land because they don't produce anything you know all the water

4438
06:09:29,880 --> 06:09:35,340
we have 60 million gallon of water and my side only I'm not talking about the other side

4439
06:09:35,340 --> 06:09:42,040
they go through there and I go straight to California with a city center of of night county

4440
06:09:42,040 --> 06:09:48,700
can you even touch the water we can only see it see it going by thank you Victor so no no to the

4441
06:09:48,700 --> 06:09:49,760
That's it, thank you.

4442
06:09:49,960 --> 06:09:51,800
Stand be on the phone for us, please.

4443
06:09:53,990 --> 06:09:54,590
No chair.

4444
06:10:01,580 --> 06:10:31,560
Hey, my name is Ben Burr, that last name is B-U-R-R, and I was invited out here by some friends here in Amorgos, Avali. I'm the executive director of the Blue Ribbon Coalition. We are a national nonprofit that does legal and advocacy work to keep public lands open for recreation. And we got called out here because we heard there's this proposed national conservation area. And we wanted to come learn more about it. We have a lot of experience with national conservation area.

4445
06:10:31,560 --> 06:10:40,480
in other states and the work that groups like the gentleman that just spoke to to use public

4446
06:10:40,480 --> 06:10:46,620
land designations for federal government designations to lock up our public lands and I'm here.

4447
06:10:46,840 --> 06:10:50,340
I'm learning about this and I just wanted to offer our services.

4448
06:10:50,340 --> 06:10:54,960
We will be educating your community and your constituents about the dangers that come with the national

4449
06:10:54,960 --> 06:10:59,800
conservation area and the way they reduce access to those public lands and we hope

4450
06:10:59,800 --> 06:11:07,120
I hope you will take that under advisement and into consideration as this proposal that seems to be in its early stages of development moves forward.

4451
06:11:07,460 --> 06:11:07,880
Thank you.

4452
06:11:08,380 --> 06:11:09,420
Thank you, sir Sam.

4453
06:11:09,880 --> 06:11:10,680
Anybody else please?

4454
06:11:13,050 --> 06:11:13,410
No chair.

4455
06:11:13,710 --> 06:11:17,490
We're going to close public comment and move to 22, please.

4456
06:11:23,140 --> 06:11:24,640
22, please.

4457
06:11:31,170 --> 06:11:33,050
He means the other work of the year.

4458
06:11:35,170 --> 06:11:47,610
Commissioner Manager comments, this item is limited to announcements, brief discussions of public comments, correction of factual inaccuracies, direction of staff, or topics proposed for future board meetings.

4459
06:11:48,310 --> 06:11:53,590
Link to the deliberation of topics not on the agenda is prohibited by the Nevada open meeting law.

4460
06:11:54,290 --> 06:11:55,310
All right, thank you for that.

4461
06:11:55,430 --> 06:11:55,930
Commissioner Bain.

4462
06:11:58,380 --> 06:11:58,940
Nope, Commissioner.

4463
06:11:59,480 --> 06:11:59,960
Thank

4464
06:12:05,050 --> 06:12:06,810
you, everybody, for being here today.

4465
06:12:07,530 --> 06:12:08,730
Commissioner Strickland.

4466
06:12:09,190 --> 06:12:10,110
Thank you everybody.

4467
06:12:10,470 --> 06:12:16,670
I know we're trying to adjust this two-minute time, 79 minutes we're saved, which is almost

4468
06:12:16,670 --> 06:12:17,870
an hour and 20 minutes.

4469
06:12:18,070 --> 06:12:22,310
We could be here until 7 o'clock, or we could get our business done, and our employees

4470
06:12:22,310 --> 06:12:25,930
and the staff that work so hard to be here and help us can have a life.

4471
06:12:26,270 --> 06:12:28,950
It'd be on this, Mr. Coney.

4472
06:12:29,510 --> 06:12:30,670
And they're getting paid overtime.

4473
06:12:30,970 --> 06:12:31,210
That's right.

4474
06:12:31,710 --> 06:12:32,370
Which we don't want.

4475
06:12:32,730 --> 06:12:36,550
I've heard a lot of conversations today about the National Mission What.

4476
06:12:36,770 --> 06:12:37,110
Excuse me.

4477
06:12:37,110 --> 06:12:39,730
That is a very profound statement.

4478
06:12:40,130 --> 06:12:40,970
Thank you very much.

4479
06:12:40,990 --> 06:12:41,350
Very awful.

4480
06:12:41,350 --> 06:12:46,090
Because every employee is listening to us because they may need to call in to give us information.

4481
06:12:46,670 --> 06:12:47,090
Thank you, sir.

4482
06:12:47,770 --> 06:12:54,410
I've heard a lot today about national conservation, something or another that no one has ever come to me about voting.

4483
06:12:54,570 --> 06:12:56,610
We just know or otherwise about it.

4484
06:12:56,790 --> 06:13:05,970
So if they ever come here, maybe you guys want to come back and talk about it then instead of now because we don't know what you're talking about.

4485
06:13:05,970 --> 06:13:11,170
So my opinion been a great meeting and

4486
06:13:13,190 --> 06:13:14,030
I guess I'm done.

4487
06:13:17,830 --> 06:13:19,010
Thank you, Commissioner.

4488
06:13:20,190 --> 06:13:21,130
No, I'm good.

4489
06:13:21,290 --> 06:13:24,910
I just want to thank everybody for being here and again, I'm going to remind everybody

4490
06:13:24,910 --> 06:13:33,310
that we're in this as landowners and property owners or landowners and citizens and families

4491
06:13:33,310 --> 06:13:34,350
and everything else here.

4492
06:13:34,550 --> 06:13:38,730
So it's much easier if we try to figure out how to work together.

4493
06:13:38,730 --> 06:13:57,570
and please understand that just because we don't maybe necessarily agree with every single thing you say or sometimes even demand it's like there's 55,000 of us not just this room so but thank you and we are out at 549.

4494
06:13:59,370 --> 06:14:03,950
Actually hold on are there any other managers or directors we're back in.

4495
06:14:04,790 --> 06:14:05,490
No chair.

4496
06:14:05,730 --> 06:14:06,270
Now we're out.

4497
06:14:06,570 --> 06:14:09,370
Safe trip to those that are driving home from Tonapau.