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On call September 10th, 2026

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O'Fallon City Council workshop

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to order roll call Katie. Mayor

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Hennessy, present.

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Council member. Wexler present.

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Council member Wilcox, present.

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Council member. Boyer present.

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Council member. Yates.

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Present.

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Council Member Koskela present.

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Council Member Link present.

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Council member. Taylor.

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Present. Council member.

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Spencer. Present. Council

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Member Cook present. Council

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member.

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Palmer.

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Present. I have folks you have

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agenda in front of you. What's

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the pleasure?

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So move. Wexler. Koskela.

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Motion by Councilman Wexler.

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Stand by. Koskela. Questions or

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comments? All in favor? Aye.

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Opposed? Motion passes.

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Anything on the council agenda?

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You folks want to talk about?

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I have a question.

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Yes, ma'am.

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On resolution 910, 2026, a,

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what's the purpose of that? Why

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do we need that? I think we're.

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Is that what it is? Yeah. We're adding this, and we're

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sharing the cost for what I

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understand is a slightly angled

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picture from the sky.

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Go ahead. Michael. I think

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Mister Woods would probably.

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Be best able to answer that. My

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commentary information is

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probably a little dated. That's

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one part of it. It's actually

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aerial photography that we use

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on all our maps. So it's a new

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flyover every year, and we

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share that cost with all the

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Saint Charles County

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communities. Uh, it's a

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consortium that we all kind of

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chip in on that. And it's with

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the pictorial triangle in

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particular that was originally.

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It's not really more for

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planning and zoning stuff, but

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I know that was part more for,

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uh, the, the assessor's county

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office and also for police to

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recognize where doors and, and

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different access points are on

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buildings. That's why it was done.

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Oh, okay.

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Mr. Palmer?

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Yeah. On, uh, 20, 26 f um, I

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noticed that there was two

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every every bidder put in two

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bids, and I got to pull it up

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because I'm blind. Sorry. Hold

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on. I'm coming slow today.

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Nope. It wasn't that one. There

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was one of these that had two.

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There were two options. One

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were the where the city took

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control of the equipment was a

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meter on a sewer. Um, there was

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a difference in the equipment

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pricing between the two options

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by the same supplier. And I

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wasn't sure. That doesn't make

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sense to me.

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Mr. Bender? Yeah. So one option

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was where they owned the

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equipment, and the other option

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was where the city owns the

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equipment.

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So on the equipment cost, why

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would there be any cost if they

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owned it?

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On say they say that again.

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Please let me pull it up real

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quick.

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Resolution d.

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Yes, d. On the bid recap, uh,

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the last two items on there,

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both by track. Alternative one

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were the city ownership

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transition and the other one,

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it's metering as a service.

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There's equipment cost ones

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34,000. The other is almost 11.

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Why is there any equipment cost

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if it's as a service?

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Well, I think they're still

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recouping their costs for their

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investment on the equipment.

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And that's just how they bid

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it. They decided to show how it

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was bid.

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I guess I would have expected a

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higher recurring cost in a no

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equipment cost, because in the

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how didn't that how as a

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service that works, we don't

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pay for the equipment, pay for

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the service. They amortize the

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cost of the equipment into the

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annual fees that we pay.

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Yeah. I think it's just strange

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how they broke it down that

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way. But that's how they bid it

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and that's what we have to to

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make a decision from.

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Okay. And then on the total

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cost, uh, does that include our

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cost of maintenance, etc. on

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the when we own it, like when

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we see the total cost after

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five years, does that take into

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account the cost that we take

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on? I'm asking for the

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comparison purposes. I don't

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know if this is just the check

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we write to the to the supplier

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or vendor. Either the 162 or

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the 183, or if in there we

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threw in our additional cost by

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us taking it on as equipment,

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that they transition it to us.

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Because there would be. My

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point is there would be some,

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I'm assuming, some level of

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maintenance and whatnot that we

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would now start to incur that

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we didn't incur before, and it

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feels like that should be

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included in there. When we're

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comparing service versus

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ownership.

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Uh, so if I understand you

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correctly, you're saying that

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if in the scenario where we buy

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the equipment ourselves. Yeah,

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we're taking on some risk that

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there's some maintenance to

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that. Is that.

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Yeah, I guess let me, let me

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try and restart from the

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beginning. The two options are

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one where they transition the

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ownership to the city, and the

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other one is where they retain

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the equipment and they operate

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it, and we just pay them for

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the service. In the scenario in

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which we transition the

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ownership to us, there would be

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some costs that the city now

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incurs that we would not incur

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if they did it fully as a

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service. Right.

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And are you saying that's the

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maintenance of maintenance

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cost?

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It might be maintenance. I

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don't know what all it would

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be, but at least maintenance,

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right. Um, or whatever else

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someone does on a week by week,

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month by month basis on it. I

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don't know what they actually

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do, but the question is, is did

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that additional cost by us

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taking the ownership of it get

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rolled in so that we have a

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total cost comparison between

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the two scenarios?

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Mr. Palmer, um, I want to jump

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in. That does not come into

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this scenario here where this

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is based purely on the cost of

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the materials and the

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installation and the contract.

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However, in looking at it from

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a city standpoint, you would

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compare there. Yes, there's a

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cost for us to take it on. If

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we were to take it on, if we

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weren't, we would also have to

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go out to bid in five years and

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redo this contract again. And

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there would be another cost

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associated with it. So, you

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know, that's that's part of the

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mindset there. It's do we know

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exactly what it's going to

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cost. No. At this point. But we

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would compare that to the fact

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that we would have to rebid

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because it would be gone in

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five years.

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Mr.. Snowden, I think we have

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a. good line on the question.

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If you don't mind, can we take

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between now and the regular

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meeting to research this and

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get you your best answer?

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Yes.

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Thank you, Mr. Link.

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Thank you. Mayor. I want to

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circle back to 2026, a

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resolution regarding the, um,

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aerial spectrometry. So, uh,

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you know, there's Google,

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there's Apple, there's a lot of

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mapping services out there that

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offer the orthographic views

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for free. Uh, what I wanted to

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understand is, what are we

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using? The oblique angles for

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again? And to what extent are

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we getting $13,856.50 of value

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out of it every year?

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Are we, um, I mean, I know I

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use it a couple times a week.

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Me personally, um, I know my

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staff use it, uses it because

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we can actually zoom in closer

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on property and see a lot more.

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It's got better, uh, angles and

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it's got, uh, better clarity,

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you know, um, as far as if it's

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worth it, I guess, I guess I

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cannot say for certain. I know

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that's the going price. Uh,

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we're we're doing our share.

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You know, our the 13,000 is

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based upon our population, you

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know, so the county has this

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contract with the company, and

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it's this prorated over the

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entire county. Um.

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They've also used it on all the

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building the owes to.

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Yeah, it's a layer. We use it

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on, you know, our zoning map.

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It's a layer in there. We don't

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use the pick part of that in

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there. It's more just a

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straight down photo. Aerial

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photos. Um. Is that.

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Just for what it's worth,

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engineering uses it to we, you

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know, somebody calls up and

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says, I used to have a no

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parking sign. I got knocked

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down. Where's it at? And

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sometimes we can't get that

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from Google. And with this we

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can go down to the different

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years. I know Google has the

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history as well, but it

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provides us with another tool.

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Sometimes when Google imagery

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isn't good for that year it was

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cloudy or whatever allows us to

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go in and check different

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things. Traffic related, sign

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related, things like that as

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well.

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Got it. And I guess kind of

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just doing rough math. If, uh,

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annual visit was like a 138

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bucks in, let's say, uh, time

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and effort to go out to a site,

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would you use that more than

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maybe 100 times a year?

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Yeah, I'm sure my staff uses it

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numerous times every week as

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well. So, yeah, we'll get a

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call from a resident and we'll

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be able to say, hold on one

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second. Let us pull up this

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imagery. And lots of times we

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can talk to them about

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backyards or things like that.

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So okay, I appreciate it. Thank

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you. I know it's a small number

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compared to the other one, but.

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I guess another thought is, you

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know, with Google, I use that

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too. But we wouldn't be able to

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lay that into our other our

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zoning maps. It's a layer that

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we can put into our own, like

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our utility maps, uh, where we

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wouldn't have that ability. We

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would just use Google, you know

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what I mean?

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Got it. All right. Thank you

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for the clarification. I

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appreciate it.

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Corey.

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So I also circling back now to

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2026, a mr. woods had mentioned

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also law enforcement can use

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this. I would like to maybe

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hear a little bit more of how

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that would be helpful. Do you

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see that being something that

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you would utilize on a regular

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basis? Because I got to be

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honest, my purse strings are

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real loose when it comes to our

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law enforcement. The safety of

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our officers. So.

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we use it on a couple of

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different things. Obviously,

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the neighborhood complaints,

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uh, on the more minor level, on

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the larger level, the Swat

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teams are tactical. Teams can

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use them for lines of approach,

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uh, surrounding areas if

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there's a search warrant, if

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they have to evacuate nearby

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areas, things of that nature.

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Good enough for me. Thank you.

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Okay. Anybody else? Amanda.

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I just had a question. Um,

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Bill, 7890. The, uh, the sports

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complex. We're doing the first,

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second and final passage

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tonight. And I just wondered

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the reasons that there were and

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all that tonight.

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That's a record. So it's read

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through the final passage.

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It's just the record plat

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that's read through final

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passage. So that's an ordinance

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on record plats. It's just read

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through final passage. There's

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no emergency, but we do it on

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all record plats. We do two

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readings. Okay. Anybody else?

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All right. Seeing none. I do

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have a motion to approve the

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council workshop meeting

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minutes of August 27th, 2026.

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Motion link.

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Yates motion Councilman Link

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second by Councilman Yates.

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Questions or comments? All in

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favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion

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passes. First thing on. Uh,

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next one is the introduction

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and demonstration of the new

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volunteer services platform.

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Let's get connected.

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Good evening. Mayor. Members of

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city council. Thank you for

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having us tonight. So I have

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the easy job tonight, and that

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I am just going to turn it over

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to Hunter Davis. He's been our

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volunteer services manager

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since April. I don't remember

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the exact date we just talked

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about it 2026. And he is here

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to introduce you to the

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platform. So I'll turn it over

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to Hunter.

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Yeah.

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All right. Hello, everybody.

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Thank you very much for

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allowing me to have a few

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moments to speak to you all

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tonight. Uh, like Tanya said,

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I'm pretty new here at the

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city. I've been here for about

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five months, and I've really

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enjoyed it so far. I really I

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know you guys get to make a lot

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of the the hard decisions and

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have some tough discussions,

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but we're gonna take a few

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moments and talk about some fun

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stuff. So, um, I'm going to go

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into our next slide here.

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Actually, I'll wait for the

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PowerPoint to kick on. All

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right. So we're going to talk

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about some of the opportunities

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to get involved for your

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residents. So if you ever have

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residents coming up to you and

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asking for ways that they can

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get involved, they say that

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they appreciate and enjoy what

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you all do and what to do

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something themselves. This is

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going to be a presentation on

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how to do that. So many of you

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probably know, or at least

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recognize the face of Bill

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Gardner here. He's one of our

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lead volunteers, and he has

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served in every single one of

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these capacities, and many more

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than I could possibly imagine

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over the years that he has been

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here in O'Fallon. But these are

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three of the big picture

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buckets for ways that residents

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can currently get involved with

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the city. Um, these three

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buckets are served. The city,

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serve the community and shape

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the future. There's a lot more

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information on each of those

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little buckets, but there's

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also a dedicated slide for each

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of them as well. So I'm going

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to shift right into Serve the

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city. Um, so serving the city

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is going to be opportunities

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for our residents to get

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involved with things that are

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happening here at City Hall, at

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the Reynolds Center, happening

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at the Justice Center. Any of

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the spaces that the city owns.

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Um, so working side by side

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with our department staff, uh,

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that are, you know, on the

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field doing things for the

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city, serving in some capacity

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already. Um, these are most of

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these are going to be ongoing

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roles for residents who have

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the availability in their

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schedule for ongoing service.

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So some of them are coming in

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weekly. Some of them are coming

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every other week. It might be

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monthly, but some amount of

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consistent, uh, servitude is an

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opportunity for them. An

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example of that that I put on

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here being the Veteran Services

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office. And so if any of you

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are familiar with the Veteran

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Services office, it's here in

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City Hall. Uh, it's down on the

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other side, not on the rotunda

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side, but it got moved over to

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the other end there. Um, but

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they are here weekly, every

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single day of the week, and

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they are serving the residents

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that are needing services in

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that area. Um, other

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opportunities in this area,

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though, are the on call and

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special project opportunities.

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So these would be things like

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what's pictured here. So this

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is Peggy Feeney. She is a

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member of the Speedy Bunch.

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This picture is from a Speedy

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Bunch project where the, uh,

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that group of individuals came

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in and was stuffing envelopes

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for either an event that was

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coming up or packets that

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needed to be sent out to the

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residents of O'Fallon. These

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are things that we obviously

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could do as staff within City

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Hall, but that would limit our

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capacity quite a bit. If we are

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consistently just stuffing

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envelopes over and over or

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doing other event needs, that

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we can have people that come in

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and actually have a, you know,

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they're coming in because they

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want to be able to give back in

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some way, and they want to

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serve their fellow citizens in

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here in O'Fallon. So this is an

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opportunity for them to do so.

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Uh, the example I put on there

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are HR, HR team is moving to a

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new system here soon. So we

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have some IT tech help that we

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have another volunteer coming

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up to serve as well. Shifting

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into serving the community. So

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these are going to be a little

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bit more of the forward facing

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kind of spotlight events that

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you've seen already. Um, so the

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community events would be

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things like random acts of

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kindness in February, Heritage

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and Freedom Festival. We just

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had that one. So you're all

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familiar with that, that event

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and many of the other ones that

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we offer throughout the city,

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we being the city as a whole,

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not just volunteer services

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team, these events could not

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happen. They could not function

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without volunteers. And so our

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office is helping connect those

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volunteers with the

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opportunities to serve and give

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back in some capacity to help

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with some of these community

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events. Service projects is

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another way that citizens can

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give back. This is through

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things like Earth Day that runs

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in April as well, and that

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one's going to be an

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opportunity for residents to

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come in, you know, in large

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groups, plant flowers at the

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different sites that the city

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owns. So if you have

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appreciated in any way what the

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landscaping looks like here at

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City Hall, first thank the

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landscaping crew, but then also

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thank the volunteers that were

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helped up here on Earth Day for

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that one. We also have the park

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cleanups, the creek cleanups,

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and other events like that.

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Those are opportunities for

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individual residents to come up

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or businesses. They frequently

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reach out to us saying that

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they want to coordinate a creek

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cleanup with us, and then our

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team will help coordinate what

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day they can do that. They'll

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work with the staff to make

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sure that they've got all the

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safety equipment and things

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that they need to do that

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effectively and safely as well.

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And then the ongoing events and

565
00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:34,987
opportunities would be things

566
00:17:34,987 --> 00:17:36,121
like our docents program. So

567
00:17:36,121 --> 00:17:37,022
any of you, if you're familiar

568
00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:38,156
with the Heald home and the

569
00:17:38,156 --> 00:17:39,090
tours that we offer of that

570
00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:40,559
space there, or the service

571
00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:41,560
learning opportunities that we

572
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,961
offer through the city to these

573
00:17:42,961 --> 00:17:44,563
are all things ways for the

574
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:45,997
residents to serve the

575
00:17:45,997 --> 00:17:49,234
community. And then helping

576
00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,302
shape the future. This one is

577
00:17:50,302 --> 00:17:51,102
probably the one you all are

578
00:17:51,102 --> 00:17:52,571
most familiar with, because

579
00:17:52,571 --> 00:17:53,305
these are things like the

580
00:17:53,305 --> 00:17:54,673
boards and commissions. These

581
00:17:54,673 --> 00:17:55,740
will be opportunities that I

582
00:17:55,740 --> 00:17:56,808
know all of you have some

583
00:17:56,808 --> 00:17:57,943
connection with already through

584
00:17:57,943 --> 00:17:59,844
the different, um, commissions

585
00:17:59,844 --> 00:18:00,512
and boards that you are

586
00:18:00,512 --> 00:18:02,581
liaisons for. Um, but our

587
00:18:02,581 --> 00:18:04,516
office kind of, I guess co does

588
00:18:04,516 --> 00:18:05,584
that with the mayor's office

589
00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,686
and the administration by

590
00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:09,487
tracking all the hours and the

591
00:18:09,487 --> 00:18:10,388
logging, all of that on the

592
00:18:10,388 --> 00:18:11,289
back end, so that we have all

593
00:18:11,289 --> 00:18:13,058
that recorded for them to be

594
00:18:13,058 --> 00:18:14,392
acknowledged on an annual basis

595
00:18:14,392 --> 00:18:18,396
for their service to the city.

596
00:18:18,396 --> 00:18:19,998
And then this slide here is

597
00:18:19,998 --> 00:18:21,066
really kind of looking at what

598
00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:23,134
we're what I picture our office

599
00:18:23,134 --> 00:18:24,336
doing moving forward. So we're

600
00:18:24,336 --> 00:18:25,870
really starting to hear a lot

601
00:18:25,870 --> 00:18:27,439
more consistent feedback on

602
00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:28,673
opportunities for youth and

603
00:18:28,673 --> 00:18:30,676
young adults. Or as I put at

604
00:18:30,676 --> 00:18:31,376
the top there, the next

605
00:18:31,376 --> 00:18:33,245
generation of engaged citizens.

606
00:18:33,245 --> 00:18:34,646
These two quotes were things

607
00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:35,680
that I heard recently that were

608
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,515
really interesting and

609
00:18:37,515 --> 00:18:39,117
inspiring for me. But the first

610
00:18:39,117 --> 00:18:40,285
one on the left side there, how

611
00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:41,319
can youth make their voices

612
00:18:41,319 --> 00:18:42,654
heard? This is brought up here

613
00:18:42,654 --> 00:18:43,588
in this space just a couple of

614
00:18:43,588 --> 00:18:45,056
weeks ago by a young man that

615
00:18:45,056 --> 00:18:46,124
came by, I believe he was a Boy

616
00:18:46,124 --> 00:18:47,993
Scout, if I remember correctly,

617
00:18:47,993 --> 00:18:49,061
but he was looking for a way to

618
00:18:49,061 --> 00:18:50,262
have his voice heard and wanted

619
00:18:50,262 --> 00:18:51,630
to be a part of things that are

620
00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:53,231
happening in his city here. Um,

621
00:18:53,231 --> 00:18:54,266
on the right side. How can

622
00:18:54,266 --> 00:18:55,133
young adults or I think she

623
00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:56,068
actually said high schoolers. I

624
00:18:56,068 --> 00:18:57,836
couldn't quite remember, uh,

625
00:18:57,836 --> 00:18:59,071
get involved in give back to

626
00:18:59,071 --> 00:19:00,138
their communities. This was

627
00:19:00,138 --> 00:19:01,439
raised, uh, a question that was

628
00:19:01,439 --> 00:19:02,807
raised at the mIAC meeting just

629
00:19:02,807 --> 00:19:04,276
a couple weeks ago as well. Uh,

630
00:19:04,276 --> 00:19:05,577
I recently started serving with

631
00:19:05,577 --> 00:19:07,512
cannon on that one to get a

632
00:19:07,512 --> 00:19:08,480
little bit more involvement

633
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,147
with the youth and young

634
00:19:09,147 --> 00:19:10,448
adults, to see the ways that we

635
00:19:10,448 --> 00:19:12,017
can potentially expand our

636
00:19:12,017 --> 00:19:13,418
opportunities. And before I

637
00:19:13,418 --> 00:19:14,253
could even mention that that

638
00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:15,320
was something I was interested

639
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,788
in. This question was raised in

640
00:19:16,788 --> 00:19:17,522
that space. So I was like, I

641
00:19:17,522 --> 00:19:18,790
guess I'm in the right area.

642
00:19:18,790 --> 00:19:20,158
Um, but this is so all that to

643
00:19:20,158 --> 00:19:21,026
say, I don't think these were

644
00:19:21,026 --> 00:19:22,527
two isolated incidents. I don't

645
00:19:22,527 --> 00:19:24,095
think these were the only two

646
00:19:24,095 --> 00:19:25,497
youth and young adults in this

647
00:19:25,497 --> 00:19:26,564
city that are looking for ways

648
00:19:26,564 --> 00:19:27,399
to be a part of something

649
00:19:27,399 --> 00:19:29,434
bigger than themselves. Um, I

650
00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:30,735
think this is just a these are

651
00:19:30,735 --> 00:19:31,903
the two vocal ones that I heard

652
00:19:31,903 --> 00:19:33,138
more recently that are examples

653
00:19:33,138 --> 00:19:34,439
of a growing movement in that

654
00:19:34,439 --> 00:19:36,007
direction, too. So moving

655
00:19:36,007 --> 00:19:36,975
forward, this is just kind of

656
00:19:36,975 --> 00:19:37,976
some seeds that we're planting

657
00:19:37,976 --> 00:19:38,776
for the future. But this is

658
00:19:38,776 --> 00:19:39,544
something that you're going to

659
00:19:39,544 --> 00:19:40,478
see a lot more from the

660
00:19:40,478 --> 00:19:42,113
volunteer services office going

661
00:19:42,113 --> 00:19:43,949
into the next year, and things

662
00:19:43,949 --> 00:19:44,816
that we'll talk about once we

663
00:19:44,816 --> 00:19:48,386
get to budget discussions to.

664
00:19:48,386 --> 00:19:49,821
So all of that leading to the

665
00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:51,156
point of why I'm here today is

666
00:19:51,156 --> 00:19:52,991
get connected. Um, have any of

667
00:19:52,991 --> 00:19:53,958
you already heard of the Get

668
00:19:53,958 --> 00:19:55,660
Connected platform? And it's

669
00:19:55,660 --> 00:19:57,762
okay if you have not. All

670
00:19:57,762 --> 00:19:59,431
right. So Get Connected is the

671
00:19:59,431 --> 00:20:01,333
name of the platform that we

672
00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:03,601
recently have implemented. It's

673
00:20:03,601 --> 00:20:04,836
been in the the integration

674
00:20:04,836 --> 00:20:05,837
stage in the building stage for

675
00:20:05,837 --> 00:20:06,738
a couple of months here. And it

676
00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:08,273
started before I, before I got

677
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:09,974
here in April. But this is

678
00:20:09,974 --> 00:20:11,309
intended to be a one stop shop

679
00:20:11,309 --> 00:20:12,610
for all of those engagement

680
00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:13,611
opportunities that we just

681
00:20:13,611 --> 00:20:14,579
talked about on the different

682
00:20:14,579 --> 00:20:16,181
slides there. But this is

683
00:20:16,181 --> 00:20:17,549
supposed to be a space where

684
00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:19,317
residents from anywhere they've

685
00:20:19,317 --> 00:20:20,285
been connected with us in the

686
00:20:20,285 --> 00:20:21,619
past or if they have, are

687
00:20:21,619 --> 00:20:22,621
wanting to seek us out for the

688
00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:23,822
first time. If they were

689
00:20:23,822 --> 00:20:24,956
wanting to find an opportunity

690
00:20:24,956 --> 00:20:26,391
to get involved, they can go to

691
00:20:26,391 --> 00:20:27,492
the site, they can look at all

692
00:20:27,492 --> 00:20:28,860
the details as far as like when

693
00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:29,828
what's the commitment level

694
00:20:29,828 --> 00:20:31,162
look like? What do I need to

695
00:20:31,162 --> 00:20:33,365
have? What qualifications? When

696
00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:34,198
do they meet? Where do they

697
00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:35,667
meet all those kinds of pieces?

698
00:20:35,667 --> 00:20:37,502
There? They can then request to

699
00:20:37,502 --> 00:20:38,903
be a part of that opportunity

700
00:20:38,903 --> 00:20:40,104
by creating an account. It's

701
00:20:40,104 --> 00:20:41,339
just an email is really all it

702
00:20:41,339 --> 00:20:43,241
needs. And then that will allow

703
00:20:43,241 --> 00:20:44,476
them to be on our radar so that

704
00:20:44,476 --> 00:20:45,577
we can follow up with them for

705
00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:46,745
future opportunities to serve

706
00:20:46,745 --> 00:20:48,246
as well. Um, the bonus I put

707
00:20:48,246 --> 00:20:49,047
down there is having their

708
00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:50,115
lifetime hours logged. Like I

709
00:20:50,115 --> 00:20:51,683
said, Bill is in our system and

710
00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:54,419
he has far and far and away

711
00:20:54,419 --> 00:20:55,720
many more than the second

712
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,722
closest volunteer. So we have

713
00:20:57,722 --> 00:20:59,057
lifetime hours logged from even

714
00:20:59,057 --> 00:21:00,158
before we were in Get Connected

715
00:21:00,158 --> 00:21:01,059
because we did have another

716
00:21:01,059 --> 00:21:02,193
database before this one as

717
00:21:02,193 --> 00:21:03,495
well. And then that little

718
00:21:03,495 --> 00:21:04,362
piece at the bottom right

719
00:21:04,362 --> 00:21:05,196
corner just says that the

720
00:21:05,196 --> 00:21:06,798
council accounts are ready. If

721
00:21:06,798 --> 00:21:07,966
you haven't already received

722
00:21:07,966 --> 00:21:09,401
anything to your council email

723
00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:11,302
address, you should have, but

724
00:21:11,302 --> 00:21:12,204
there is an account that was

725
00:21:12,204 --> 00:21:15,140
created for you that is that will that will be

726
00:21:15,140 --> 00:21:16,508
connected to that city account

727
00:21:16,508 --> 00:21:17,308
so that you have the

728
00:21:17,308 --> 00:21:18,543
opportunity to log in and check

729
00:21:18,543 --> 00:21:19,711
out some of these opportunities

730
00:21:19,711 --> 00:21:21,913
to if you haven't, just get in

731
00:21:21,913 --> 00:21:23,381
touch with me and I will find a

732
00:21:23,381 --> 00:21:23,781
way to get you.

733
00:21:23,781 --> 00:21:26,084
Connected with you. I haven't, you haven't, I have

734
00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:27,352
not received an email on it.

735
00:21:27,352 --> 00:21:28,820
Okay. You know, it might not

736
00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:30,155
actually create the account

737
00:21:30,155 --> 00:21:31,389
then it just puts it into the

738
00:21:31,389 --> 00:21:32,824
system so that when you log in,

739
00:21:32,824 --> 00:21:34,759
it recognizes that. Um, because

740
00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:36,161
I know that Katie just uploaded

741
00:21:36,161 --> 00:21:37,162
that for the new council

742
00:21:37,162 --> 00:21:38,630
members that weren't here last

743
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:40,398
year, but all of you that were

744
00:21:40,398 --> 00:21:41,633
here last year as well were

745
00:21:41,633 --> 00:21:42,767
already in ballistics. And all

746
00:21:42,767 --> 00:21:43,701
of that data was transferred

747
00:21:43,701 --> 00:21:45,637
over to this system here. So

748
00:21:45,637 --> 00:21:46,438
I'll look into that a little

749
00:21:46,438 --> 00:21:47,238
bit more with the team, and

750
00:21:47,238 --> 00:21:51,042
we'll follow up on that. So

751
00:21:51,042 --> 00:21:52,043
this is a quick screenshot of

752
00:21:52,043 --> 00:21:53,711
what that site looks like. Um,

753
00:21:53,711 --> 00:21:55,714
but this is I didn't want to

754
00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:56,581
take you through the whole site

755
00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:57,415
demo right now. It'd be a

756
00:21:57,415 --> 00:21:58,416
little bit too much to go into

757
00:21:58,416 --> 00:21:59,451
tonight. And I hear this

758
00:21:59,451 --> 00:22:00,217
electron does not have

759
00:22:00,217 --> 00:22:02,153
internet. So, um, this is just

760
00:22:02,153 --> 00:22:03,588
a screenshot of that main page.

761
00:22:03,588 --> 00:22:04,756
The programs is the first thing

762
00:22:04,756 --> 00:22:05,924
that you see. Each of those

763
00:22:05,924 --> 00:22:06,958
boxes, they're the first three

764
00:22:06,958 --> 00:22:08,426
that are listed are adopter

765
00:22:08,426 --> 00:22:09,761
programs, boards, commissions

766
00:22:09,761 --> 00:22:10,528
and committees. And then

767
00:22:10,528 --> 00:22:12,030
community outreach. Um, there

768
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,665
are 12 of those programs total

769
00:22:13,665 --> 00:22:14,432
right now that are on that

770
00:22:14,432 --> 00:22:15,901
site, but we are still in that

771
00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:17,168
building out stage. So you're

772
00:22:17,168 --> 00:22:18,236
probably going to see a few

773
00:22:18,236 --> 00:22:20,305
changes to this site as we go

774
00:22:20,305 --> 00:22:22,106
forward. Um, one of those is

775
00:22:22,106 --> 00:22:23,875
already the youth and Youth and

776
00:22:23,875 --> 00:22:25,410
young adults programs, or youth

777
00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:26,811
service opportunities,

778
00:22:26,811 --> 00:22:27,946
something in that realm. Um,

779
00:22:27,946 --> 00:22:28,880
but that's the piece that we

780
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:29,948
are building out right now. So

781
00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:31,115
that that student that asks for

782
00:22:31,115 --> 00:22:32,183
mine and the the student that

783
00:22:32,183 --> 00:22:33,384
asked, I'm here at the council

784
00:22:33,384 --> 00:22:34,452
meeting a few weeks ago, have

785
00:22:34,452 --> 00:22:35,653
those opportunities readily

786
00:22:35,653 --> 00:22:37,355
available for them to see what

787
00:22:37,355 --> 00:22:38,723
they can be a part of. The

788
00:22:38,723 --> 00:22:39,757
other piece that's pretty

789
00:22:39,757 --> 00:22:40,892
customizable is that left hand

790
00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:43,561
side? Um, it says, um, put my

791
00:22:43,561 --> 00:22:44,429
oh, I guess it's right in front

792
00:22:44,429 --> 00:22:45,563
of me. Oh, you got remembering

793
00:22:45,563 --> 00:22:46,698
nine 11, the volunteer

794
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:48,500
newsletter, Senior resources,

795
00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:50,201
veteran resources, community

796
00:22:50,201 --> 00:22:51,836
resources. These are all pieces

797
00:22:51,836 --> 00:22:53,038
that we can customize and that

798
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,639
we have selected to have right

799
00:22:54,639 --> 00:22:55,507
there on the front display

800
00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:56,808
page. For instance, the

801
00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:57,909
remembering nine over 11.

802
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:59,010
That's not there year round.

803
00:22:59,010 --> 00:22:59,911
That's something that we put up

804
00:22:59,911 --> 00:23:01,946
because obviously the event is

805
00:23:01,946 --> 00:23:02,914
coming up and we have a couple

806
00:23:02,914 --> 00:23:04,048
different events commemorating

807
00:23:04,048 --> 00:23:05,850
that date coming up tomorrow

808
00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:07,318
and on Saturday. So after this

809
00:23:07,318 --> 00:23:08,620
weekend, we're going to swap

810
00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:09,887
that out for the next set of

811
00:23:09,887 --> 00:23:10,922
events that's coming up. So

812
00:23:10,922 --> 00:23:12,090
that is something that we will

813
00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:13,224
use to make sure that this is

814
00:23:13,224 --> 00:23:15,093
always up to date. And the most

815
00:23:15,093 --> 00:23:16,995
relevant for the citizens on

816
00:23:16,995 --> 00:23:19,331
this page.

817
00:23:19,331 --> 00:23:21,165
Honor on the boards and

818
00:23:21,165 --> 00:23:24,335
commissions. Does that get back

819
00:23:24,335 --> 00:23:25,303
to Katie?

820
00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:26,538
It does. Yeah. So when they

821
00:23:26,538 --> 00:23:27,805
click on that one, that one in

822
00:23:27,805 --> 00:23:29,040
particular takes them to a page

823
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,975
that tells them what the

824
00:23:29,975 --> 00:23:30,775
different boards and

825
00:23:30,775 --> 00:23:32,277
commissions are and how to

826
00:23:32,277 --> 00:23:33,111
apply for those.

827
00:23:33,111 --> 00:23:34,479
And that'll link that. And then

828
00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:36,147
that goes to Katie, right?

829
00:23:36,147 --> 00:23:37,615
Yes. Yeah. It leaks them to

830
00:23:37,615 --> 00:23:38,749
that general application that

831
00:23:38,749 --> 00:23:39,684
tells them how to go through

832
00:23:39,684 --> 00:23:40,685
Katie and the rest of your team

833
00:23:40,685 --> 00:23:41,953
for that.

834
00:23:41,953 --> 00:23:44,890
Thank you.

835
00:23:44,890 --> 00:23:47,959
So if you hear any of these, phrases or

836
00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:48,993
anything else that's in this

837
00:23:48,993 --> 00:23:50,595
realm, how can I give back? How

838
00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:51,830
can I get involved? I want to

839
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:52,830
make a difference in my

840
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:54,599
community. Anything like this.

841
00:23:54,599 --> 00:23:55,833
should hopefully trigger

842
00:23:55,833 --> 00:23:57,035
this conversation today or

843
00:23:57,035 --> 00:23:57,803
trigger memory for this

844
00:23:57,803 --> 00:23:59,237
conversation today, where the

845
00:23:59,237 --> 00:24:00,138
guy that spoke a little too

846
00:24:00,138 --> 00:24:01,773
quickly and rambled at times

847
00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:02,740
came and told you about a

848
00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:04,142
system that connects them with

849
00:24:04,142 --> 00:24:06,177
those opportunities called Get

850
00:24:06,177 --> 00:24:07,745
Connected. Um, so this right

851
00:24:07,745 --> 00:24:09,280
here, this obviously you don't

852
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,181
have to scan this right now.

853
00:24:10,181 --> 00:24:11,649
It's all on the TV here for

854
00:24:11,649 --> 00:24:13,051
O'Fallon TV. But, um, this is

855
00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:15,320
an opportunity to go to the

856
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,421
site here. All of your

857
00:24:16,421 --> 00:24:17,655
residents can go to this site

858
00:24:17,655 --> 00:24:19,123
and look for those ways to get

859
00:24:19,123 --> 00:24:20,925
involved. If any of them have

860
00:24:20,925 --> 00:24:22,360
questions beyond what we offer

861
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:23,127
there, or if they're looking

862
00:24:23,127 --> 00:24:24,162
for something that we don't

863
00:24:24,162 --> 00:24:25,830
offer that's not currently

864
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:27,231
listed on that site, that does

865
00:24:27,231 --> 00:24:28,466
not mean that it can't exist.

866
00:24:28,466 --> 00:24:29,333
Just connect them with our

867
00:24:29,333 --> 00:24:30,268
office, connect them with me

868
00:24:30,268 --> 00:24:31,469
directly, and I'd be happy to

869
00:24:31,469 --> 00:24:32,804
start talking to talking about

870
00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:35,673
opportunities for growing the program moving

871
00:24:35,673 --> 00:24:39,277
forward. With that, I believe.

872
00:24:39,277 --> 00:24:40,678
Yes, I will open that up to any

873
00:24:40,678 --> 00:24:41,780
questions that you guys have.

874
00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:43,581
Questions for. Hunter, Mr.

875
00:24:43,581 --> 00:24:44,182
Wexler?

876
00:24:44,182 --> 00:24:45,016
Thank you. Not really a

877
00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:46,284
question. I just tried to log

878
00:24:46,284 --> 00:24:47,919
in there, and when you put your

879
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:49,354
city city email in, it

880
00:24:49,354 --> 00:24:50,521
automatically sends you a

881
00:24:50,521 --> 00:24:52,590
password reset to your city

882
00:24:52,590 --> 00:24:55,226
email. Super easy. Okay. You

883
00:24:55,226 --> 00:24:58,363
just reset your password and

884
00:24:58,363 --> 00:25:00,031
quickly log in. So super easy.

885
00:25:00,031 --> 00:25:00,731
That's great to know. I

886
00:25:00,731 --> 00:25:01,032
appreciate.

887
00:25:01,032 --> 00:25:02,000
What happens when your code

888
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,803
doesn't work.

889
00:25:04,803 --> 00:25:06,070
Then you let me know and I'll

890
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:07,338
follow up with you on that.

891
00:25:07,338 --> 00:25:08,406
Yeah.

892
00:25:08,406 --> 00:25:10,175
My code doesn't work.

893
00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:12,711
Okay, I'll follow up with you.

894
00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:14,145
Mr. Palmer.

895
00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:15,680
Uh, welcome to the city. I

896
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,648
think you got about as much

897
00:25:16,648 --> 00:25:18,216
time as half of us up here.

898
00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:19,584
Sure. Clearly doing much better

899
00:25:19,584 --> 00:25:21,786
than we are. So, uh, especially

900
00:25:21,786 --> 00:25:23,354
on the rambling part. I speak

901
00:25:23,354 --> 00:25:24,922
for myself on that one. I did

902
00:25:24,922 --> 00:25:25,757
have a couple questions,

903
00:25:25,757 --> 00:25:28,259
though. Um, have you? Well,

904
00:25:28,259 --> 00:25:29,560
three questions. One is, can

905
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:30,428
they also get there through the

906
00:25:30,428 --> 00:25:31,696
city website? So if they go to

907
00:25:31,696 --> 00:25:32,497
the city website, they'll say,

908
00:25:32,497 --> 00:25:34,298
okay, good. Yes. And then have

909
00:25:34,298 --> 00:25:35,367
you thought about I don't know

910
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:36,734
if we can do this or if there's

911
00:25:36,734 --> 00:25:38,436
an ability, but I think about

912
00:25:38,436 --> 00:25:39,604
churches and they have youth

913
00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:40,505
groups and they have the same

914
00:25:40,505 --> 00:25:41,305
thing where a lot of these

915
00:25:41,305 --> 00:25:42,340
questions get asked, how can I

916
00:25:42,340 --> 00:25:43,441
go do that? I don't know if

917
00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:44,475
there's a way to outreach

918
00:25:44,475 --> 00:25:45,810
specifically to ecclesiastical

919
00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:47,011
leaders in the community, but

920
00:25:47,011 --> 00:25:48,913
that might be an opportunity.

921
00:25:48,913 --> 00:25:49,814
And then the other thought I

922
00:25:49,814 --> 00:25:51,015
had was, do you present to like

923
00:25:51,015 --> 00:25:52,050
the senior advisory Committee?

924
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,519
Because it feels like I mean,

925
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:55,286
there might be a lot of

926
00:25:55,286 --> 00:25:56,354
opportunities there that are on

927
00:25:56,354 --> 00:25:57,755
there unaware of. So just some

928
00:25:57,755 --> 00:25:58,156
thoughts.

929
00:25:58,156 --> 00:26:00,558
Yes, absolutely. Uh, and to

930
00:26:00,558 --> 00:26:01,392
I'll see if I can remember all

931
00:26:01,392 --> 00:26:02,560
three of those in order for the

932
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,961
first one. Yes. If you go to

933
00:26:03,961 --> 00:26:05,196
the city's website and then you

934
00:26:05,196 --> 00:26:06,230
visit the volunteer services

935
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:07,398
page, or if you just I've

936
00:26:07,398 --> 00:26:08,366
tested this a few times. If you

937
00:26:08,366 --> 00:26:10,802
just Google volunteer O'Fallon,

938
00:26:10,802 --> 00:26:11,936
um, then this is the first site

939
00:26:11,936 --> 00:26:13,237
that pops up and it'll take you

940
00:26:13,237 --> 00:26:14,438
to a I think it'll take you to

941
00:26:14,438 --> 00:26:15,907
the city's web page first,

942
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,208
which has a direct link to this

943
00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:19,343
portal. And then for the second

944
00:26:19,343 --> 00:26:20,445
question, as far as getting in

945
00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:21,779
touch with the local churches

946
00:26:21,779 --> 00:26:23,681
and congregations in the area.

947
00:26:23,681 --> 00:26:25,149
Yes, that is an opportunity.

948
00:26:25,149 --> 00:26:26,884
It's listed on the website on

949
00:26:26,884 --> 00:26:28,152
that main page for O'Fallon of

950
00:26:28,152 --> 00:26:29,520
like if you are a group looking

951
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,522
to provide service to the city

952
00:26:31,522 --> 00:26:32,924
in some way, then you can get

953
00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:33,925
in touch with us and we can set

954
00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:35,860
that up. So a lot of times we

955
00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:37,562
see that through the, uh, serve

956
00:26:37,562 --> 00:26:38,796
days that I was talking about

957
00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:40,932
on.

958
00:26:40,932 --> 00:26:42,000
Um.

959
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,735
This page here. Um, so a lot of

960
00:26:43,735 --> 00:26:45,036
times we'll either be contacted

961
00:26:45,036 --> 00:26:46,704
by local businesses or churches

962
00:26:46,704 --> 00:26:48,139
or any other group of people in

963
00:26:48,139 --> 00:26:50,074
this area that want to clean up

964
00:26:50,074 --> 00:26:51,042
a park that's near their

965
00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:52,477
location or near their church

966
00:26:52,477 --> 00:26:53,845
building. Then they can reach

967
00:26:53,845 --> 00:26:55,113
out to us and set that up.

968
00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:56,447
Something that I am looking

969
00:26:56,447 --> 00:26:58,516
personally to doing is kind of

970
00:26:58,516 --> 00:26:59,717
in this realm is reaching out

971
00:26:59,717 --> 00:27:00,885
to specifically youth groups in

972
00:27:00,885 --> 00:27:02,386
the area as well, looking for

973
00:27:02,386 --> 00:27:03,621
ways that those groups can get

974
00:27:03,621 --> 00:27:04,689
involved. And if they haven't

975
00:27:04,689 --> 00:27:05,623
thought about service in some

976
00:27:05,623 --> 00:27:07,625
capacity in, you know already,

977
00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:08,593
if they haven't been talking

978
00:27:08,593 --> 00:27:09,527
about that, that's something

979
00:27:09,527 --> 00:27:10,862
that I am personally planning

980
00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:12,029
on connecting with them and

981
00:27:12,029 --> 00:27:14,432
seeing if they're aware of. And

982
00:27:14,432 --> 00:27:16,601
then the I did forget the third

983
00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:17,468
question. What was that third

984
00:27:17,468 --> 00:27:18,002
one?

985
00:27:18,002 --> 00:27:18,737
Seniors.

986
00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:20,238
Yes. Um, so the

987
00:27:20,238 --> 00:27:21,839
seniors, I actually right when

988
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:22,841
I started, I was invited to

989
00:27:22,841 --> 00:27:23,975
come and speak at the Senior

990
00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:26,043
Resident Advisory Committee. So

991
00:27:26,043 --> 00:27:26,911
I've made a connection there

992
00:27:26,911 --> 00:27:28,346
with, uh, the chairman of their

993
00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:29,614
board. And then I also have

994
00:27:29,614 --> 00:27:31,382
that connection, I believe,

995
00:27:31,382 --> 00:27:32,650
with his wife in our office as

996
00:27:32,650 --> 00:27:34,085
well. So, um, they're very

997
00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,053
aware of the things that we're

998
00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:36,387
offering as far as the

999
00:27:36,387 --> 00:27:37,522
introduction of Get Connected

1000
00:27:37,522 --> 00:27:39,557
goes. But it's also a it's a

1001
00:27:39,557 --> 00:27:40,892
pathway that we've opened up by

1002
00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:43,227
me attending that meeting.

1003
00:27:43,227 --> 00:27:45,764
Amanda, hi.

1004
00:27:45,764 --> 00:27:49,700
Nice to meet you. Uh, I had a

1005
00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:52,703
question about specifically the

1006
00:27:52,703 --> 00:27:54,338
commissions when on that one,

1007
00:27:54,338 --> 00:27:56,574
the commissions and boards. You

1008
00:27:56,574 --> 00:27:58,008
go to that page and you said

1009
00:27:58,008 --> 00:28:00,878
there's a way to apply. I was

1010
00:28:00,878 --> 00:28:02,680
wondering if there's anything

1011
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,249
that connects people to the

1012
00:28:05,249 --> 00:28:06,984
members of that board. I'm

1013
00:28:06,984 --> 00:28:08,119
thinking of, like cultural

1014
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,221
arts. I was on there if if

1015
00:28:10,221 --> 00:28:11,956
someone, one of our residents

1016
00:28:11,956 --> 00:28:13,224
had a question directly for

1017
00:28:13,224 --> 00:28:15,226
cultural arts, there's no way

1018
00:28:15,226 --> 00:28:16,961
for them to actually get in

1019
00:28:16,961 --> 00:28:18,196
touch with the people on that

1020
00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:19,831
board right now. Yeah. And I

1021
00:28:19,831 --> 00:28:21,232
just wondered if that was

1022
00:28:21,232 --> 00:28:22,900
something that you could even

1023
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:25,170
add or do on there.

1024
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:26,404
That is a great question that I

1025
00:28:26,404 --> 00:28:27,405
may have to defer, because I

1026
00:28:27,405 --> 00:28:28,940
don't know if I oversee the the

1027
00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:30,041
functioning of those boards to

1028
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,143
that extent. Would that be.

1029
00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:34,679
My my suggestion would be if

1030
00:28:34,679 --> 00:28:36,781
it's possible for them to

1031
00:28:36,781 --> 00:28:38,683
contact the liaison for that

1032
00:28:38,683 --> 00:28:40,685
Border Commission, because we

1033
00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:41,553
have each one of.

1034
00:28:41,553 --> 00:28:42,587
You on there.

1035
00:28:42,587 --> 00:28:44,789
Each one of you is that would

1036
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:47,992
be a Mister Michalka question.

1037
00:28:47,992 --> 00:28:49,827
But he's not over there. So but

1038
00:28:49,827 --> 00:28:53,197
my my thing is I would each one

1039
00:28:53,197 --> 00:28:55,233
of you is on a border, uh,

1040
00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:56,567
liaison to one of the boards

1041
00:28:56,567 --> 00:28:58,136
and commissions. So if one of

1042
00:28:58,136 --> 00:29:00,705
those residents had a question

1043
00:29:00,705 --> 00:29:04,575
to me that would go to I don't want to send it to the

1044
00:29:04,575 --> 00:29:06,744
chairman of that. I really

1045
00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:08,246
don't to me, it should go to

1046
00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:09,280
the liaison.

1047
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,415
So maybe even to put the

1048
00:29:11,415 --> 00:29:13,417
liaison contact on those

1049
00:29:13,417 --> 00:29:14,785
commissions. They know who the

1050
00:29:14,785 --> 00:29:16,254
liaison is or something like

1051
00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:17,688
that. It's just that I know a

1052
00:29:17,688 --> 00:29:19,857
lot of people have how do I get

1053
00:29:19,857 --> 00:29:21,859
in contact with planning and

1054
00:29:21,859 --> 00:29:24,795
zoning or something like that, they have no way to get in

1055
00:29:24,795 --> 00:29:26,564
contact with them. So, and they

1056
00:29:26,564 --> 00:29:27,765
don't know who to go to.

1057
00:29:27,765 --> 00:29:29,800
I agree, I agree with what

1058
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,302
Mayor Hennessy said, and we

1059
00:29:31,302 --> 00:29:32,403
have talked about this in the

1060
00:29:32,403 --> 00:29:33,604
past, and I can't remember if

1061
00:29:33,604 --> 00:29:35,273
it was with Tony or with Tom,

1062
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:37,375
but there was hesitation to put

1063
00:29:37,375 --> 00:29:39,277
those the the residents that

1064
00:29:39,277 --> 00:29:41,412
serve on the Commission, their

1065
00:29:41,412 --> 00:29:43,414
information on the website. So

1066
00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:44,715
we have refrained from doing

1067
00:29:44,715 --> 00:29:46,183
that for that reason. But we

1068
00:29:46,183 --> 00:29:47,952
could certainly find a way,

1069
00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:49,253
whether it's on volunteer

1070
00:29:49,253 --> 00:29:51,422
services or within the city's

1071
00:29:51,422 --> 00:29:54,225
website, to list the liaison.

1072
00:29:54,225 --> 00:29:58,162
Anybody else? Debbie.

1073
00:29:58,162 --> 00:29:59,263
Thank you. Mayor. Welcome,

1074
00:29:59,263 --> 00:29:59,964
Hunter. It's nice.

1075
00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:01,466
To see you. Thank you. Um.

1076
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:02,600
There's a lot of high schoolers

1077
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,802
that need, uh, service hours.

1078
00:30:04,802 --> 00:30:06,404
Yes. So do you have a spot

1079
00:30:06,404 --> 00:30:08,439
where they can maybe reach out

1080
00:30:08,439 --> 00:30:09,407
to the city for things like

1081
00:30:09,407 --> 00:30:09,807
that?

1082
00:30:09,807 --> 00:30:11,242
Yeah. So that is a, uh, a

1083
00:30:11,242 --> 00:30:12,310
network that I'm building out

1084
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:13,511
currently. So I've started

1085
00:30:13,511 --> 00:30:14,212
reaching out to some of the

1086
00:30:14,212 --> 00:30:15,146
local high schools here to

1087
00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:16,981
establish the either the A+

1088
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:18,516
contact for their school or the

1089
00:30:18,516 --> 00:30:20,885
NHS sponsor for their program

1090
00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:22,019
as well. And that is I'm going

1091
00:30:22,019 --> 00:30:22,787
to start building out a

1092
00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:24,055
consistent, uh, communication

1093
00:30:24,055 --> 00:30:25,656
thread with them to whenever we

1094
00:30:25,656 --> 00:30:26,891
have something like an HF

1095
00:30:26,891 --> 00:30:28,226
coming up, I can send out the

1096
00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:29,460
information to all of those

1097
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:30,561
contacts at the same time and

1098
00:30:30,561 --> 00:30:31,362
say, we have these

1099
00:30:31,362 --> 00:30:32,897
opportunities, because this

1100
00:30:32,897 --> 00:30:34,031
year we fortunately, we didn't

1101
00:30:34,031 --> 00:30:35,800
have any gaps that were unable

1102
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,134
to be covered in some other

1103
00:30:37,134 --> 00:30:38,302
capacity, but we did have some

1104
00:30:38,302 --> 00:30:40,137
gaps going into HF that we

1105
00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:41,472
could have had some more hands

1106
00:30:41,472 --> 00:30:43,341
on for. And so, I mean, before

1107
00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:45,276
here, I'm coming from a, a role

1108
00:30:45,276 --> 00:30:47,778
at a university. So I'm, I know

1109
00:30:47,778 --> 00:30:48,512
a lot of fraternities and

1110
00:30:48,512 --> 00:30:49,714
sororities need service hours.

1111
00:30:49,714 --> 00:30:51,082
A lot of other clubs on need

1112
00:30:51,082 --> 00:30:52,783
the same thing too. So planning

1113
00:30:52,783 --> 00:30:53,584
on getting in touch, kind of

1114
00:30:53,584 --> 00:30:54,785
broadening a little bit outside

1115
00:30:54,785 --> 00:30:55,720
of O'Fallon and going over to

1116
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,587
like Saint Charles Community

1117
00:30:56,587 --> 00:30:58,589
College or even Lindenwood to

1118
00:30:58,589 --> 00:30:59,256
establish some of those

1119
00:30:59,256 --> 00:31:00,391
connections to to see if we can

1120
00:31:00,391 --> 00:31:01,225
get a little bit more

1121
00:31:01,225 --> 00:31:02,693
engagement from that

1122
00:31:02,693 --> 00:31:03,628
population.

1123
00:31:03,628 --> 00:31:04,996
That's great, because I know

1124
00:31:04,996 --> 00:31:06,664
when my kids were older, when

1125
00:31:06,664 --> 00:31:07,631
they were in high school and

1126
00:31:07,631 --> 00:31:08,399
stuff, they were always looking

1127
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:09,767
for service hours. So that's a

1128
00:31:09,767 --> 00:31:12,103
great revenue avenue to go to.

1129
00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:12,570
So thank you.

1130
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:13,104
Sure. Yeah.

1131
00:31:13,104 --> 00:31:14,205
The service hours

1132
00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:15,306
component. And then also the

1133
00:31:15,306 --> 00:31:16,540
uh, just the resume building

1134
00:31:16,540 --> 00:31:17,542
from that age.

1135
00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,243
Okay. Anybody else?

1136
00:31:19,243 --> 00:31:22,113
Amanda., I'm following up on my

1137
00:31:22,113 --> 00:31:24,515
one and stuck on it. Is there

1138
00:31:24,515 --> 00:31:26,083
even maybe a way that the

1139
00:31:26,083 --> 00:31:28,019
board, like the president of

1140
00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:29,320
the board, could have an

1141
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,022
offline email address that they

1142
00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:32,156
can contact?

1143
00:31:32,156 --> 00:31:33,257
Mayor.

1144
00:31:33,257 --> 00:31:35,560
The, uh, liaison for all of the

1145
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,927
boards and commissions is on

1146
00:31:36,927 --> 00:31:37,995
the board and commission

1147
00:31:37,995 --> 00:31:39,163
webpage, as well as the

1148
00:31:39,163 --> 00:31:40,898
recording secretary with their

1149
00:31:40,898 --> 00:31:42,400
email address so they can reach

1150
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,567
out to the city through that.

1151
00:31:43,567 --> 00:31:45,870
It's on every page for those

1152
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:46,704
commissions.

1153
00:31:46,704 --> 00:31:48,639
Okay. I thought somebody up

1154
00:31:48,639 --> 00:31:50,041
there was speaking to me when I

1155
00:31:50,041 --> 00:31:50,641
was this way.

1156
00:31:50,641 --> 00:31:51,943
So it.

1157
00:31:51,943 --> 00:31:58,149
Was. Okay. Anybody else?

1158
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:59,617
Thanks. Hunter Thomas.

1159
00:31:59,617 --> 00:31:59,951
Thanks.

1160
00:31:59,951 --> 00:32:00,651
Thank you all for your.

1161
00:32:00,651 --> 00:32:03,154
Time.

1162
00:32:03,154 --> 00:32:06,891
Next is amending. Amending

1163
00:32:06,891 --> 00:32:09,794
section one 10.200 Manor of

1164
00:32:09,794 --> 00:32:11,028
Judson City Council. Miss

1165
00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:13,164
Spencer, this is yours.

1166
00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:16,100
I. What do you want me to talk

1167
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,535
about?

1168
00:32:17,535 --> 00:32:19,337
This is what you requested.

1169
00:32:19,337 --> 00:32:20,638
I think this is a wonderful

1170
00:32:20,638 --> 00:32:22,673
idea. I think it gives our

1171
00:32:22,673 --> 00:32:24,008
residents an opportunity to

1172
00:32:24,008 --> 00:32:25,643
come in here and speak on, you

1173
00:32:25,643 --> 00:32:27,678
know, whatever they want to

1174
00:32:27,678 --> 00:32:30,781
speak on, in matters pertaining

1175
00:32:30,781 --> 00:32:32,483
to the city of O'Fallon. They

1176
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:33,451
can't just come in here and

1177
00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:34,485
talk about anything and

1178
00:32:34,485 --> 00:32:37,354
everything. Um, and I think

1179
00:32:37,354 --> 00:32:39,557
that it used to be this way.

1180
00:32:39,557 --> 00:32:41,492
Right. Um, and then we put the

1181
00:32:41,492 --> 00:32:44,261
limits on it, which I think was

1182
00:32:44,261 --> 00:32:45,896
probably warranted at the time.

1183
00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:47,098
And I think we can maybe kind

1184
00:32:47,098 --> 00:32:49,233
of loosen that up a little bit,

1185
00:32:49,233 --> 00:32:52,236
allow the first ten people with

1186
00:32:52,236 --> 00:32:53,437
a comment card to speak on

1187
00:32:53,437 --> 00:32:54,505
whatever they want to speak on.

1188
00:32:54,505 --> 00:32:56,040
And I think that the residents

1189
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,910
deserve that right.

1190
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:00,978
There's a couple things, you

1191
00:33:00,978 --> 00:33:02,546
know, are you going to allow

1192
00:33:02,546 --> 00:33:07,218
them to beat up on city staff?

1193
00:33:07,218 --> 00:33:08,553
No, I don't think it would be

1194
00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:09,821
kind of what it is. Now.

1195
00:33:09,821 --> 00:33:12,590
Hold on, hold on. Because what

1196
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:14,458
you're going to get, okay,

1197
00:33:14,458 --> 00:33:15,192
you're going to have people

1198
00:33:15,192 --> 00:33:16,794
come out and say, hey, this is

1199
00:33:16,794 --> 00:33:17,895
city business. I'm going to

1200
00:33:17,895 --> 00:33:20,464
beat up on planning and zoning.

1201
00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:21,298
I'm going to beat up on the

1202
00:33:21,298 --> 00:33:22,399
police department. I'm going to

1203
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:23,867
beat up on finance. I'm going

1204
00:33:23,867 --> 00:33:25,102
to beat up on engineering, I'm

1205
00:33:25,102 --> 00:33:26,937
going to beat up on it. And

1206
00:33:26,937 --> 00:33:29,240
they will call them people out

1207
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,476
because it has happened before.

1208
00:33:32,476 --> 00:33:35,312
So you're drawing a very fine

1209
00:33:35,312 --> 00:33:36,847
line if you're going to allow

1210
00:33:36,847 --> 00:33:40,718
somebody to speak. You know,

1211
00:33:40,718 --> 00:33:42,887
okay. What happens when

1212
00:33:42,887 --> 00:33:44,354
somebody comes and says, what

1213
00:33:44,354 --> 00:33:45,122
are you going to do about the

1214
00:33:45,122 --> 00:33:47,424
vaccine vaccinations going on

1215
00:33:47,424 --> 00:33:50,060
in the city of O'Fallon?

1216
00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:51,295
Granted, we don't have anything

1217
00:33:51,295 --> 00:33:52,463
to do with the vaccine because

1218
00:33:52,463 --> 00:33:53,797
that's the health department.

1219
00:33:53,797 --> 00:33:56,600
But, you know, there's a whole

1220
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,403
lot of things that you're

1221
00:33:59,403 --> 00:34:03,374
saying on city business. To me,

1222
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:09,647
that is it's a wide range. So I

1223
00:34:09,647 --> 00:34:12,016
mean, this we're running the

1224
00:34:12,016 --> 00:34:15,319
meetings are a city business.

1225
00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:17,955
And to me, they have other ways

1226
00:34:17,955 --> 00:34:21,025
to contact staff. They have

1227
00:34:21,025 --> 00:34:24,661
contact the elected officials.

1228
00:34:24,661 --> 00:34:29,700
You know, anybody else? Mr.

1229
00:34:29,700 --> 00:34:30,568
Wilcox?

1230
00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:33,003
So it was open agenda at one

1231
00:34:33,003 --> 00:34:34,338
point years ago. Is that

1232
00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:35,072
correct?

1233
00:34:35,072 --> 00:34:38,075
Uh, 6 or 7 years ago, somewhere

1234
00:34:38,075 --> 00:34:38,943
around there.

1235
00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:40,311
So what was it? Did something

1236
00:34:40,311 --> 00:34:42,313
happen to warrant the change?

1237
00:34:42,313 --> 00:34:43,314
All those things.

1238
00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:44,815
All things that I just

1239
00:34:44,815 --> 00:34:46,617
mentioned. We had people coming

1240
00:34:46,617 --> 00:34:53,424
up just. Putting our staff down,

1241
00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:55,259
saying that they were part of a

1242
00:34:55,259 --> 00:35:00,664
what was it, a country club,

1243
00:35:00,664 --> 00:35:02,900
people? I mean, to me, that's

1244
00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,935
not what they're here for.

1245
00:35:04,935 --> 00:35:07,671
They're not here to get reamed

1246
00:35:07,671 --> 00:35:13,611
and everything else from. The

1247
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:15,446
residents to me, if they have a

1248
00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:17,414
problem, they get Ahold of Mr.

1249
00:35:17,414 --> 00:35:19,416
Snowden or one of the elected

1250
00:35:19,416 --> 00:35:21,719
officials and say, I have a

1251
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,021
problem with this department

1252
00:35:24,021 --> 00:35:26,123
head. Mr. Snowden, can you look

1253
00:35:26,123 --> 00:35:30,527
into this? He will look into it.

1254
00:35:30,527 --> 00:35:33,364
So, Mr. Lake.

1255
00:35:33,364 --> 00:35:35,733
Mayor, on that, you know, um,

1256
00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,468
is there not an implied level

1257
00:35:37,468 --> 00:35:39,136
of decorum that needs to be

1258
00:35:39,136 --> 00:35:41,004
maintained where, you know, if

1259
00:35:41,004 --> 00:35:42,406
there starts to be a personal

1260
00:35:42,406 --> 00:35:44,174
attack rather than an attack on

1261
00:35:44,174 --> 00:35:46,777
an issue or a department that

1262
00:35:46,777 --> 00:35:48,579
the presiding officer can, you

1263
00:35:48,579 --> 00:35:50,047
know, either allow them to make

1264
00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:52,082
them forfeit their time or mute

1265
00:35:52,082 --> 00:35:53,917
the mic.

1266
00:35:53,917 --> 00:35:55,419
Yes, and I've done that before.

1267
00:35:55,419 --> 00:35:57,788
But they keep they keep going.

1268
00:35:57,788 --> 00:36:00,758
I mean, I do not want to put

1269
00:36:00,758 --> 00:36:04,728
staff in that in that

1270
00:36:04,728 --> 00:36:06,330
predicament, I really don't.

1271
00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:09,400
They're here to answer our

1272
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,869
questions. They're not here to

1273
00:36:11,869 --> 00:36:14,838
get beaten up by the residents.

1274
00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:16,574
Miss Taylor.

1275
00:36:16,574 --> 00:36:18,075
I mean, I was going to mention

1276
00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:20,411
that we have it specifically in

1277
00:36:20,411 --> 00:36:23,681
the ordinance to, uh, respect,

1278
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:26,750
you know, keep decorum. And,

1279
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:28,652
uh, I think that should handle

1280
00:36:28,652 --> 00:36:31,088
it. I mean, if we can't control

1281
00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:32,623
them after that, I mean, don't

1282
00:36:32,623 --> 00:36:33,991
we have security here that can

1283
00:36:33,991 --> 00:36:34,992
bring them out or something

1284
00:36:34,992 --> 00:36:37,161
like that? But it's in here

1285
00:36:37,161 --> 00:36:38,796
that they have to follow

1286
00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:40,364
decorum, and it's written in

1287
00:36:40,364 --> 00:36:42,866
that ordinance. So, uh, I think

1288
00:36:42,866 --> 00:36:45,402
that shouldn't be a problem. I

1289
00:36:45,402 --> 00:36:47,938
know that people, even council

1290
00:36:47,938 --> 00:36:49,173
members that were on this

1291
00:36:49,173 --> 00:36:51,342
council before, no longer here

1292
00:36:51,342 --> 00:36:54,912
and voted, uh, for this change.

1293
00:36:54,912 --> 00:36:57,014
I've heard we, Corey and I both

1294
00:36:57,014 --> 00:36:59,249
have heard from several that

1295
00:36:59,249 --> 00:37:00,851
are glad we brought this back

1296
00:37:00,851 --> 00:37:02,786
up, because it does silence.

1297
00:37:02,786 --> 00:37:04,521
You know, it it might be. I

1298
00:37:04,521 --> 00:37:05,923
think we all can probably look

1299
00:37:05,923 --> 00:37:07,358
around and and look at our

1300
00:37:07,358 --> 00:37:09,493
meetings and know why this was

1301
00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:10,961
implemented or who this was

1302
00:37:10,961 --> 00:37:13,864
implemented for. Um, a certain

1303
00:37:13,864 --> 00:37:15,999
person that comes here and

1304
00:37:15,999 --> 00:37:18,802
speaks and, and attempt, I

1305
00:37:18,802 --> 00:37:20,270
think, to silence one person.

1306
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:21,972
We have silenced the entire,

1307
00:37:21,972 --> 00:37:24,441
you know, city, all its

1308
00:37:24,441 --> 00:37:26,009
residents in the city. And

1309
00:37:26,009 --> 00:37:27,911
that's wrong. And it certainly

1310
00:37:27,911 --> 00:37:29,313
hasn't even silenced that one

1311
00:37:29,313 --> 00:37:32,416
person, you know, and and they

1312
00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:33,984
still come in here sometimes

1313
00:37:33,984 --> 00:37:35,753
and may attack. But that's when

1314
00:37:35,753 --> 00:37:37,855
we step in and we say that's

1315
00:37:37,855 --> 00:37:40,758
not appropriate. But I mean,

1316
00:37:40,758 --> 00:37:43,460
this is this is this isn't like

1317
00:37:43,460 --> 00:37:45,195
we're up here. I'm going to

1318
00:37:45,195 --> 00:37:46,263
talk about, of course, my ward

1319
00:37:46,263 --> 00:37:47,498
report. But this isn't like

1320
00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:49,433
we're up here on some throne,

1321
00:37:49,433 --> 00:37:50,734
and and the people have to

1322
00:37:50,734 --> 00:37:53,437
listen to us. I mean, the

1323
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:55,372
people are our bosses, you

1324
00:37:55,372 --> 00:37:56,339
know, they should come in here

1325
00:37:56,339 --> 00:37:57,441
and tell us the problems that

1326
00:37:57,441 --> 00:38:00,143
they're having, and. And you're

1327
00:38:00,143 --> 00:38:01,245
going to tell your boss, oh,

1328
00:38:01,245 --> 00:38:02,246
you can't come, and you can

1329
00:38:02,246 --> 00:38:04,047
only speak on this like we've

1330
00:38:04,047 --> 00:38:05,716
kept it, that we speak on

1331
00:38:05,716 --> 00:38:08,252
topics that are pertaining to a

1332
00:38:08,252 --> 00:38:10,053
city business, that they can't

1333
00:38:10,053 --> 00:38:11,455
just come in here and start

1334
00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:12,923
attacking our families or

1335
00:38:12,923 --> 00:38:17,094
anything like that. So and it's

1336
00:38:17,094 --> 00:38:18,395
kind of funny, I haven't even

1337
00:38:18,395 --> 00:38:19,797
seen a city around that does

1338
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:21,632
anything like this. I've asked

1339
00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:22,933
there's no other city that does

1340
00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:25,202
anything like this. We're the

1341
00:38:25,202 --> 00:38:34,078
only ones, so it's crazy.

1342
00:38:34,078 --> 00:38:36,247
Mr. Palmer.

1343
00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:37,714
Uh, yeah, I got a series of

1344
00:38:37,714 --> 00:38:39,550
questions. Um, kind of already

1345
00:38:39,550 --> 00:38:41,885
answered. What's? Well, I mean,

1346
00:38:41,885 --> 00:38:44,721
what what is driving the change

1347
00:38:44,721 --> 00:38:47,458
now? Um, and is our current

1348
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:48,826
process for citizens to get

1349
00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:50,294
their voices heard? I'm asking

1350
00:38:50,294 --> 00:38:52,129
because up until two weeks ago,

1351
00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:54,198
I had not had anybody raised

1352
00:38:54,198 --> 00:38:57,167
the issue to me. Um, until two

1353
00:38:57,167 --> 00:38:58,302
weeks ago when somebody figured

1354
00:38:58,302 --> 00:38:59,570
out that they couldn't speak on

1355
00:38:59,570 --> 00:39:02,406
agenda item. So are you I mean,

1356
00:39:02,406 --> 00:39:04,541
what is driving the change or

1357
00:39:04,541 --> 00:39:07,545
the proposed change?

1358
00:39:07,545 --> 00:39:09,747
Corey. It's yours.

1359
00:39:09,747 --> 00:39:11,482
Because we feel that people

1360
00:39:11,482 --> 00:39:12,483
have a right to come in here

1361
00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:13,617
and say what they want to say,

1362
00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:14,718
whether it's on an agenda item

1363
00:39:14,718 --> 00:39:16,453
or not. And again, this was the

1364
00:39:16,453 --> 00:39:18,021
way before. And Amanda's right.

1365
00:39:18,021 --> 00:39:20,090
We there were changes made for

1366
00:39:20,090 --> 00:39:24,261
very obvious reasons. And you

1367
00:39:24,261 --> 00:39:27,798
know, you still have a few

1368
00:39:27,798 --> 00:39:28,999
individuals. I don't want a

1369
00:39:28,999 --> 00:39:31,134
single one person out, um, that

1370
00:39:31,134 --> 00:39:34,071
come in here and, and talk and talk. And I've heard

1371
00:39:34,071 --> 00:39:35,239
mayor say time and time again,

1372
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,340
your time is up. You can't say

1373
00:39:36,340 --> 00:39:37,140
that. You can't talk about

1374
00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:38,175
that. And that's fine, because

1375
00:39:38,175 --> 00:39:39,276
that's how it's currently

1376
00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:41,511
written. But I think if they're

1377
00:39:41,511 --> 00:39:43,113
if you're going to maintain a

1378
00:39:43,113 --> 00:39:44,514
level of respect and a level of

1379
00:39:44,514 --> 00:39:46,617
decorum, and if you if you

1380
00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:48,385
deviate from that, then it gets

1381
00:39:48,385 --> 00:39:49,453
shut down. And if they want to

1382
00:39:49,453 --> 00:39:50,420
keep hooting and hollering and

1383
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:51,688
screaming and yelling or, or

1384
00:39:51,688 --> 00:39:52,956
act a certain way, then that's

1385
00:39:52,956 --> 00:39:56,059
precisely why we have security

1386
00:39:56,059 --> 00:39:58,061
here. And they can leave and

1387
00:39:58,061 --> 00:39:59,596
then they don't get to come

1388
00:39:59,596 --> 00:40:02,299
back and speak. If you can't be

1389
00:40:02,299 --> 00:40:04,935
respectful and not attack staff

1390
00:40:04,935 --> 00:40:06,270
and not attack certain council

1391
00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:07,871
members, it's meant to address

1392
00:40:07,871 --> 00:40:09,306
council as a whole, not to come

1393
00:40:09,306 --> 00:40:11,041
in here and say, Mr. Palmer, I

1394
00:40:11,041 --> 00:40:12,242
have a problem with you, Mr.

1395
00:40:12,242 --> 00:40:13,243
Woods. I have a problem with

1396
00:40:13,243 --> 00:40:14,345
you, Miss Spencer. I have a

1397
00:40:14,345 --> 00:40:15,779
problem with you. That's not

1398
00:40:15,779 --> 00:40:16,947
what it is meant for. It is

1399
00:40:16,947 --> 00:40:18,515
meant for people to come and

1400
00:40:18,515 --> 00:40:19,950
voice their concerns on things

1401
00:40:19,950 --> 00:40:22,052
that they feel are important to

1402
00:40:22,052 --> 00:40:23,387
them. And I think silencing

1403
00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:25,656
them is it's not an okay to

1404
00:40:25,656 --> 00:40:26,723
silence the people that put us

1405
00:40:26,723 --> 00:40:28,759
in these seats, and I'll die on

1406
00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:30,394
that hill.

1407
00:40:30,394 --> 00:40:31,495
Yeah.

1408
00:40:31,495 --> 00:40:32,863
Go ahead, Mr. Palmer. You still

1409
00:40:32,863 --> 00:40:33,063
have.

1410
00:40:33,063 --> 00:40:34,031
The floor. Yeah. Sorry. I got,

1411
00:40:34,031 --> 00:40:37,134
like, five questions. Um, so.

1412
00:40:37,134 --> 00:40:39,403
I guess, uh, was it all

1413
00:40:39,403 --> 00:40:40,437
because of the one individual,

1414
00:40:40,437 --> 00:40:41,972
or was it more than that? I

1415
00:40:41,972 --> 00:40:44,575
mean, that wasn't here. The the

1416
00:40:44,575 --> 00:40:47,044
reason for the original change

1417
00:40:47,044 --> 00:40:48,679
because I can't, I, I mean, I

1418
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:50,647
don't it would be if I may.

1419
00:40:50,647 --> 00:40:55,185
Yeah. Those who have speculated

1420
00:40:55,185 --> 00:40:55,686
as.

1421
00:40:55,686 --> 00:40:56,554
To the reason.

1422
00:40:56,554 --> 00:40:58,889
Why in 2020, this ordinance was

1423
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:00,924
adopted were not members of the

1424
00:41:00,924 --> 00:41:02,926
council at the time, were not

1425
00:41:02,926 --> 00:41:04,361
parties to the debate or

1426
00:41:04,361 --> 00:41:05,896
discussion that took place, or

1427
00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:07,564
any other briefing that the

1428
00:41:07,564 --> 00:41:09,466
Council received at the time.

1429
00:41:09,466 --> 00:41:12,135
And I think it would be

1430
00:41:12,135 --> 00:41:14,972
unfortunate if the public came

1431
00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:18,275
to believe that this

1432
00:41:18,275 --> 00:41:20,577
legislation was adopted with

1433
00:41:20,577 --> 00:41:22,613
respect to silence. One person

1434
00:41:22,613 --> 00:41:26,316
that was not the case is not

1435
00:41:26,316 --> 00:41:29,086
the case now, and was not the

1436
00:41:29,086 --> 00:41:32,723
case then. Okay. I mean, that

1437
00:41:32,723 --> 00:41:34,491
was okay. I'm sorry. I assume

1438
00:41:34,491 --> 00:41:35,292
you're going to respond to

1439
00:41:35,292 --> 00:41:35,526
that.

1440
00:41:35,526 --> 00:41:38,095
Thank you. Yes. Thank you. So

1441
00:41:38,095 --> 00:41:39,830
what if you can come in here

1442
00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:41,231
and speak on an agenda item?

1443
00:41:41,231 --> 00:41:43,300
What is stopping that person

1444
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,002
from quote unquote, attacking

1445
00:41:45,002 --> 00:41:46,637
any of the staff on that agenda

1446
00:41:46,637 --> 00:41:47,904
item? What would you do in that

1447
00:41:47,904 --> 00:41:49,506
case? You would shut it down.

1448
00:41:49,506 --> 00:41:50,641
They would they would be

1449
00:41:50,641 --> 00:41:52,476
escorted out if necessary or

1450
00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:54,344
told to sit down. And your time

1451
00:41:54,344 --> 00:41:56,413
is up. Why is it different if

1452
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:57,781
they can speak on any agenda

1453
00:41:57,781 --> 00:41:59,716
item, it would be the same

1454
00:41:59,716 --> 00:42:01,218
outcome. So they can come in

1455
00:42:01,218 --> 00:42:02,786
here. And as long as the item

1456
00:42:02,786 --> 00:42:04,187
is on the agenda, they can

1457
00:42:04,187 --> 00:42:05,789
attack staff all they want just

1458
00:42:05,789 --> 00:42:08,692
because it's not on the agenda.

1459
00:42:08,692 --> 00:42:10,293
I'm not I'm not understanding

1460
00:42:10,293 --> 00:42:11,828
the logic there because we

1461
00:42:11,828 --> 00:42:13,697
allow people to speak on agenda

1462
00:42:13,697 --> 00:42:15,365
items. So if your argument is

1463
00:42:15,365 --> 00:42:16,099
that they're going to come in

1464
00:42:16,099 --> 00:42:17,567
here and attack staff, they can

1465
00:42:17,567 --> 00:42:18,702
already do that and you're

1466
00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:19,403
going to shut them down

1467
00:42:19,403 --> 00:42:22,172
anyways. So what is the what is

1468
00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:23,907
the issue with opening it up

1469
00:42:23,907 --> 00:42:27,044
and having the same course of

1470
00:42:27,044 --> 00:42:28,912
action? If they come in here

1471
00:42:28,912 --> 00:42:34,918
and are not respectful?

1472
00:42:34,918 --> 00:42:37,454
Next question.

1473
00:42:37,454 --> 00:42:40,757
Um, the next question kind of

1474
00:42:40,757 --> 00:42:41,792
tied to what was already

1475
00:42:41,792 --> 00:42:43,260
mentioned when I read the

1476
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,895
ordinance, the preexisting

1477
00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:46,530
ordinance that says all remarks

1478
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:47,363
shall be addressed to city

1479
00:42:47,363 --> 00:42:48,565
council as a body and not to

1480
00:42:48,565 --> 00:42:50,167
the individual member thereof.

1481
00:42:50,167 --> 00:42:51,535
Um, if we proceed with this,

1482
00:42:51,535 --> 00:42:52,769
I'd like to have some strength

1483
00:42:52,769 --> 00:42:54,404
and language in there to

1484
00:42:54,404 --> 00:42:56,239
specifically state that to

1485
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,774
include the staff exclusion so

1486
00:42:57,774 --> 00:42:58,875
they are not to address staff

1487
00:42:58,875 --> 00:43:01,578
period. And, uh, if anyone

1488
00:43:01,578 --> 00:43:04,815
violates decorum or attacks any

1489
00:43:04,815 --> 00:43:07,350
individual, then they by

1490
00:43:07,350 --> 00:43:08,218
default lost their time. I

1491
00:43:08,218 --> 00:43:09,352
think the current one says that

1492
00:43:09,352 --> 00:43:11,054
if they, uh, deviate from the

1493
00:43:11,054 --> 00:43:12,021
agenda item, they lose their

1494
00:43:12,021 --> 00:43:14,191
time. And so I think I think a

1495
00:43:14,191 --> 00:43:15,659
mitigation would be to include

1496
00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:17,494
that in there as well. I also

1497
00:43:17,494 --> 00:43:20,030
had a question around, um, when

1498
00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:21,431
it said, and I'm, I'm not a

1499
00:43:21,431 --> 00:43:23,567
lawyer. Uh, but when it says by

1500
00:43:23,567 --> 00:43:25,068
majority vote of the members

1501
00:43:25,068 --> 00:43:26,603
then present, does that mean if

1502
00:43:26,603 --> 00:43:27,738
there are five council members

1503
00:43:27,738 --> 00:43:29,005
there, then you only need three

1504
00:43:29,005 --> 00:43:30,741
votes? And this is in reference

1505
00:43:30,741 --> 00:43:32,943
to cutting off all of in any

1506
00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,578
one meeting. I think you can

1507
00:43:34,578 --> 00:43:36,146
cut off. It allows like a cut

1508
00:43:36,146 --> 00:43:37,914
off or a stop to the comments.

1509
00:43:37,914 --> 00:43:39,116
Is that what that verbiage

1510
00:43:39,116 --> 00:43:40,283
means, or does that mean you

1511
00:43:40,283 --> 00:43:41,551
need six even if you only have

1512
00:43:41,551 --> 00:43:43,487
seven? And in session.

1513
00:43:43,487 --> 00:43:44,088
Well.

1514
00:43:44,088 --> 00:43:45,221
You can't run a meeting with

1515
00:43:45,221 --> 00:43:46,623
five councilmen.

1516
00:43:46,623 --> 00:43:48,759
Okay. So then six if you have

1517
00:43:48,759 --> 00:43:51,762
six, uh, do you only need 4 or

1518
00:43:51,762 --> 00:43:52,863
3? Three tie in. The mayor

1519
00:43:52,863 --> 00:43:53,530
breaks. I'm trying to

1520
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:54,865
understand. Is it like the

1521
00:43:54,865 --> 00:43:56,466
other items that you always

1522
00:43:56,466 --> 00:43:58,769
need? Six or in this case is a

1523
00:43:58,769 --> 00:44:00,103
verb. The verbiage allow

1524
00:44:00,103 --> 00:44:01,071
something less than six.

1525
00:44:01,071 --> 00:44:02,139
Just one thing that the only

1526
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:03,573
thing that you need six votes

1527
00:44:03,573 --> 00:44:05,342
for is on an ordinance.

1528
00:44:05,342 --> 00:44:06,743
Everything else is a simple

1529
00:44:06,743 --> 00:44:07,511
majority.

1530
00:44:07,511 --> 00:44:08,545
Of those present.

1531
00:44:08,545 --> 00:44:10,981
Of those legislation.

1532
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:12,149
I mean, on

1533
00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:14,117
resolutions, it's it's a simple

1534
00:44:14,117 --> 00:44:16,820
majority. So if there's six

1535
00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:18,822
councilmen here, a four two

1536
00:44:18,822 --> 00:44:20,357
vote or a three three vote, I

1537
00:44:20,357 --> 00:44:21,458
break the tie.

1538
00:44:21,458 --> 00:44:27,631
That makes sense. And then, um.

1539
00:44:27,631 --> 00:44:28,632
What was the other question

1540
00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:29,800
going to be? I got two more,

1541
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,469
uh, the limitation on the you

1542
00:44:32,469 --> 00:44:33,403
already talked about some of

1543
00:44:33,403 --> 00:44:35,839
the reasons I'm getting, the

1544
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:36,940
sense that those that were

1545
00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:38,241
around at that time does not

1546
00:44:38,241 --> 00:44:39,943
feel like what's currently

1547
00:44:39,943 --> 00:44:42,179
written would still mitigate

1548
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:43,680
some of that risk, while giving

1549
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,682
the perception of a more open

1550
00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:48,118
meeting. Is that and if not,

1551
00:44:48,118 --> 00:44:50,320
then can we? What can we do to

1552
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,855
draft in there to help mitigate

1553
00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:53,723
those? I'm I'm. This is going

1554
00:44:53,723 --> 00:44:54,858
to sound really bad. I'm a

1555
00:44:54,858 --> 00:44:57,127
little torn on it. Um, I think

1556
00:44:57,127 --> 00:44:59,663
people should have the chance

1557
00:44:59,663 --> 00:45:02,199
to address, um, I also think

1558
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:03,300
there's kind of already an

1559
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:04,334
opportunity for them to address

1560
00:45:04,334 --> 00:45:06,736
any of us, because I get talks

1561
00:45:06,736 --> 00:45:07,938
all the time and emails and

1562
00:45:07,938 --> 00:45:10,140
contacts. What I would hate to

1563
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:12,075
see also happen is that a line

1564
00:45:12,075 --> 00:45:13,376
of a thousand people all take

1565
00:45:13,376 --> 00:45:15,078
three minutes just to blow our

1566
00:45:15,078 --> 00:45:17,314
time and be difficult. Um, I

1567
00:45:17,314 --> 00:45:19,883
know that's an extreme, but I

1568
00:45:19,883 --> 00:45:21,651
just I think there's a happy

1569
00:45:21,651 --> 00:45:23,253
medium in here somewhere, but

1570
00:45:23,253 --> 00:45:24,154
we're really going to rely on

1571
00:45:24,154 --> 00:45:27,757
those who are around to help us

1572
00:45:27,757 --> 00:45:29,192
draft in there what we can do

1573
00:45:29,192 --> 00:45:30,260
to mitigate that risk, to

1574
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:31,728
ensure we don't repeat back

1575
00:45:31,728 --> 00:45:33,196
into what drove it the first

1576
00:45:33,196 --> 00:45:34,831
time around, while still again,

1577
00:45:34,831 --> 00:45:36,032
given the perception of being

1578
00:45:36,032 --> 00:45:36,667
more open.

1579
00:45:36,667 --> 00:45:40,370
I can tell you there's out of the 11 elected officials

1580
00:45:40,370 --> 00:45:42,072
sitting up here at the time,

1581
00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:43,607
there's only two sitting

1582
00:45:43,607 --> 00:45:48,745
remaining. So just to answer

1583
00:45:48,745 --> 00:45:49,513
your question.

1584
00:45:49,513 --> 00:45:50,513
So then there I posed the

1585
00:45:50,513 --> 00:45:52,682
question. The two of you are

1586
00:45:52,682 --> 00:45:55,118
out of the risks that you see.

1587
00:45:55,118 --> 00:45:56,686
What could we put in there that

1588
00:45:56,686 --> 00:45:57,554
would help mitigate it? And

1589
00:45:57,554 --> 00:45:58,788
then we would remind everybody

1590
00:45:58,788 --> 00:46:01,258
up front, hey, don't break

1591
00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,525
these rules or you're gone.

1592
00:46:02,525 --> 00:46:04,127
Like, we're doing this for a

1593
00:46:04,127 --> 00:46:05,562
reason, but not to be abused.

1594
00:46:05,562 --> 00:46:07,697
So.

1595
00:46:07,697 --> 00:46:12,703
Okay. Mister Wilcox.

1596
00:46:12,703 --> 00:46:14,537
, so I like your idea. Like

1597
00:46:14,537 --> 00:46:16,106
before the public comment

1598
00:46:16,106 --> 00:46:17,741
section would start. I mean,

1599
00:46:17,741 --> 00:46:19,576
maybe we there's a disclaimer

1600
00:46:19,576 --> 00:46:21,111
where we say this. You can

1601
00:46:21,111 --> 00:46:22,445
address your agenda item.

1602
00:46:22,445 --> 00:46:23,780
There's no personal attacks,

1603
00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:25,749
you know, just a short little

1604
00:46:25,749 --> 00:46:26,049
thing.

1605
00:46:26,049 --> 00:46:26,783
It's on everybody.

1606
00:46:26,783 --> 00:46:28,051
It's on the back of the card.

1607
00:46:28,051 --> 00:46:30,787
Okay. And then lemon limiting

1608
00:46:30,787 --> 00:46:32,188
you know, there can only be a

1609
00:46:32,188 --> 00:46:35,091
limit of 10 or 20 per meeting.

1610
00:46:35,091 --> 00:46:36,760
You can't have 100, obviously.

1611
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,994
So is that in there like I

1612
00:46:37,994 --> 00:46:38,895
didn't I don't think I saw it

1613
00:46:38,895 --> 00:46:40,463
in there is is putting a

1614
00:46:40,463 --> 00:46:42,299
number. Um, so I guess that's

1615
00:46:42,299 --> 00:46:43,633
part of my point is if there

1616
00:46:43,633 --> 00:46:45,101
was a concern that people were

1617
00:46:45,101 --> 00:46:46,603
lining up out the door just to

1618
00:46:46,603 --> 00:46:48,238
complain, then we say, hey,

1619
00:46:48,238 --> 00:46:49,506
first whatever number, I don't

1620
00:46:49,506 --> 00:46:51,274
know.

1621
00:46:51,274 --> 00:46:54,144
I'm I would be totally against

1622
00:46:54,144 --> 00:46:56,680
that. You're going to put ten

1623
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,448
people first. Ten people come

1624
00:46:58,448 --> 00:46:59,582
in and want to speak on

1625
00:46:59,582 --> 00:47:00,984
whatever they want to talk

1626
00:47:00,984 --> 00:47:05,255
about. Number 11 walks in and

1627
00:47:05,255 --> 00:47:07,857
wants to speak. I'll guarantee

1628
00:47:07,857 --> 00:47:09,926
you right now, eight out of ten

1629
00:47:09,926 --> 00:47:12,629
of you will say, let the 11

1630
00:47:12,629 --> 00:47:14,397
person speak.

1631
00:47:14,397 --> 00:47:16,166
Or I would say on the next, or

1632
00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:16,934
be faster to.

1633
00:47:16,934 --> 00:47:18,602
The next number on it.

1634
00:47:18,602 --> 00:47:20,037
You cannot put a number.

1635
00:47:20,037 --> 00:47:21,838
On it.

1636
00:47:21,838 --> 00:47:23,473
Because if if what you guys are

1637
00:47:23,473 --> 00:47:26,209
saying, you're going to allow

1638
00:47:26,209 --> 00:47:28,011
60 people to walk in here and

1639
00:47:28,011 --> 00:47:29,412
talk about whatever they want

1640
00:47:29,412 --> 00:47:32,048
to talk about for three

1641
00:47:32,048 --> 00:47:33,950
minutes, and no, you cannot

1642
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:35,218
say, you know, we've already

1643
00:47:35,218 --> 00:47:37,687
heard this, we've already heard

1644
00:47:37,687 --> 00:47:41,091
this move on. If you're going

1645
00:47:41,091 --> 00:47:42,192
to do this, you're going to

1646
00:47:42,192 --> 00:47:46,129
open up wide open for however

1647
00:47:46,129 --> 00:47:48,064
many people want to talk. And

1648
00:47:48,064 --> 00:47:51,034
to miss Spencer's point, you

1649
00:47:51,034 --> 00:47:52,502
can't kick them out. I mean,

1650
00:47:52,502 --> 00:47:54,004
yeah, you can make them leave

1651
00:47:54,004 --> 00:47:56,239
that meeting, but they can come

1652
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,641
back the next meeting.

1653
00:47:57,641 --> 00:47:58,742
And. then keep coming. Their

1654
00:47:58,742 --> 00:47:59,643
attitude, because it is.

1655
00:47:59,643 --> 00:48:01,478
It's their First Amendment

1656
00:48:01,478 --> 00:48:07,451
right to come to these meetings.

1657
00:48:07,451 --> 00:48:10,787
Miss Taylor.

1658
00:48:10,787 --> 00:48:13,323
Um, first, I mean, let's be

1659
00:48:13,323 --> 00:48:17,260
honest, we maybe have 1 or 2

1660
00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:18,728
people in the that come to

1661
00:48:18,728 --> 00:48:20,797
these meetings. I'm not worried

1662
00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:23,033
that thousand I mean, even

1663
00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:24,234
worried that ten people are

1664
00:48:24,234 --> 00:48:26,102
going to come and sign a

1665
00:48:26,102 --> 00:48:27,404
comment card unless there's a

1666
00:48:27,404 --> 00:48:29,039
problem and that's usually on

1667
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:30,907
the agenda item. I mean, that's

1668
00:48:30,907 --> 00:48:33,943
a moot point for me. And I did

1669
00:48:33,943 --> 00:48:34,878
want to comment because you

1670
00:48:34,878 --> 00:48:37,213
asked Corey about, um, why now?

1671
00:48:37,213 --> 00:48:39,649
And the timing. And I did bring

1672
00:48:39,649 --> 00:48:41,084
this up last year with our

1673
00:48:41,084 --> 00:48:42,786
strategic plan, wanting to do

1674
00:48:42,786 --> 00:48:46,523
this. Um, but we do constantly

1675
00:48:46,523 --> 00:48:48,925
get asked, uh, to people to

1676
00:48:48,925 --> 00:48:50,293
come and speak on something. I

1677
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:52,595
mean, I know me and Corey have

1678
00:48:52,595 --> 00:48:54,030
multiple times had to tell

1679
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,533
people, no, they can't come and

1680
00:48:56,533 --> 00:48:57,967
speak on that because it's not

1681
00:48:57,967 --> 00:49:00,303
on the agenda item. So, I mean,

1682
00:49:00,303 --> 00:49:01,371
having to tell people that

1683
00:49:01,371 --> 00:49:03,807
right there, I'm embarrassed to

1684
00:49:03,807 --> 00:49:06,376
like, yeah, our council is

1685
00:49:06,376 --> 00:49:07,610
telling you you can't come and

1686
00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:09,379
speak on something in the city

1687
00:49:09,379 --> 00:49:11,347
that you want to speak on. You

1688
00:49:11,347 --> 00:49:13,049
know, I know last week I think

1689
00:49:13,049 --> 00:49:14,851
Council Member Wilcox had

1690
00:49:14,851 --> 00:49:16,119
someone here that wanted to

1691
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:17,020
speak, and it was just

1692
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:17,987
something about the storm

1693
00:49:17,987 --> 00:49:20,090
damage, you know? And, I mean,

1694
00:49:20,090 --> 00:49:21,524
they couldn't come and speak.

1695
00:49:21,524 --> 00:49:23,827
So I think this is an ongoing

1696
00:49:23,827 --> 00:49:25,228
issue that I've seen over the

1697
00:49:25,228 --> 00:49:27,597
last year that people have a

1698
00:49:27,597 --> 00:49:29,265
problem with not being able to

1699
00:49:29,265 --> 00:49:31,101
come up and talk to us.

1700
00:49:31,101 --> 00:49:32,269
Go ahead, Mr. Palmer.

1701
00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:34,237
So, I mean, I want to ask, is

1702
00:49:34,237 --> 00:49:35,238
that is that a true statement

1703
00:49:35,238 --> 00:49:36,639
that there is no way for them

1704
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,542
to come and I and I when I, asked that question, I'm

1705
00:49:39,542 --> 00:49:41,344
not limited to council meeting

1706
00:49:41,344 --> 00:49:43,012
itself. Like if somebody has an

1707
00:49:43,012 --> 00:49:44,080
issue on a topic, can't they be

1708
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,649
invited to come and speak on it

1709
00:49:46,649 --> 00:49:48,384
as an agenda item on the

1710
00:49:48,384 --> 00:49:50,186
workshop?

1711
00:49:50,186 --> 00:49:53,056
We normally do not have

1712
00:49:53,056 --> 00:49:55,959
residents speak at the workshop.

1713
00:49:55,959 --> 00:49:58,862
Very, very rarely do we have a

1714
00:49:58,862 --> 00:50:00,964
resident speak at the workshop.

1715
00:50:00,964 --> 00:50:04,934
But speak is in like a ad hoc

1716
00:50:04,934 --> 00:50:06,436
impromptu coming and speaking.

1717
00:50:06,436 --> 00:50:08,204
Could we not invite them to

1718
00:50:08,204 --> 00:50:10,807
come and share their views on a

1719
00:50:10,807 --> 00:50:12,375
certain topic? I'm just asking.

1720
00:50:12,375 --> 00:50:13,843
I'm trying to understand like

1721
00:50:13,843 --> 00:50:15,845
what really is a limitation and

1722
00:50:15,845 --> 00:50:18,648
what is really not a limitation.

1723
00:50:18,648 --> 00:50:21,183
I can I'm I'm just as new. Half

1724
00:50:21,183 --> 00:50:22,919
of us, I'm learning.

1725
00:50:22,919 --> 00:50:24,754
Go ahead. Amanda.

1726
00:50:24,754 --> 00:50:26,789
Um, there was only one time

1727
00:50:26,789 --> 00:50:28,358
that I've given up my ward

1728
00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:30,527
report just to let someone

1729
00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:33,096
speak, and I gave it up there,

1730
00:50:33,096 --> 00:50:34,631
because I did. I didn't think

1731
00:50:34,631 --> 00:50:35,899
they should deserve to come

1732
00:50:35,899 --> 00:50:37,467
here and speak, and we weren't

1733
00:50:37,467 --> 00:50:38,768
listening. So I gave my ward

1734
00:50:38,768 --> 00:50:39,836
report. That's been the only

1735
00:50:39,836 --> 00:50:42,438
time I've actually seen someone

1736
00:50:42,438 --> 00:50:44,274
able to speak outside of the

1737
00:50:44,274 --> 00:50:46,343
agenda items. So.

1738
00:50:46,343 --> 00:50:47,744
Mr. Lincoln.

1739
00:50:47,744 --> 00:50:49,445
Thank you. Mayor. Uh, the one

1740
00:50:49,445 --> 00:50:50,813
remark I want to make falls

1741
00:50:50,813 --> 00:50:52,549
back on some experience on

1742
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:54,284
planning and zoning. So

1743
00:50:54,284 --> 00:50:55,518
occasionally, you know, the

1744
00:50:55,518 --> 00:50:58,454
contentious topic comes up. Um,

1745
00:50:58,454 --> 00:50:59,689
a couple of times that's

1746
00:50:59,689 --> 00:51:01,257
happened. Generally, the

1747
00:51:01,257 --> 00:51:03,059
speakers have respected the

1748
00:51:03,059 --> 00:51:04,360
direction of the presiding

1749
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,930
officer, in which, you know,

1750
00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:08,097
there should be an effort made

1751
00:51:08,097 --> 00:51:10,099
not to repeat the same

1752
00:51:10,099 --> 00:51:11,801
information or arguments over

1753
00:51:11,801 --> 00:51:13,236
and over. So, you know, I think

1754
00:51:13,236 --> 00:51:14,871
on some we've had 6 or 7

1755
00:51:14,871 --> 00:51:17,540
speakers and maybe 2 or 3,

1756
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:18,775
we'll use the full three

1757
00:51:18,775 --> 00:51:20,109
minutes, but others may just

1758
00:51:20,109 --> 00:51:21,744
get up there and say, uh, you

1759
00:51:21,744 --> 00:51:23,313
know, I'm just here to support

1760
00:51:23,313 --> 00:51:24,613
this view. My points have

1761
00:51:24,613 --> 00:51:25,648
already been argued and they

1762
00:51:25,648 --> 00:51:27,384
respect the time.

1763
00:51:27,384 --> 00:51:29,352
So sorry, Corey, I just want to

1764
00:51:29,352 --> 00:51:30,286
I know your hands been up a

1765
00:51:30,286 --> 00:51:31,154
while, but I just want to hit

1766
00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:32,756
this one. Um, so I mean, that's

1767
00:51:32,756 --> 00:51:35,291
an example to me of that would

1768
00:51:35,291 --> 00:51:36,492
be a mitigation we could put in

1769
00:51:36,492 --> 00:51:37,493
place. Right. That says, hey,

1770
00:51:37,493 --> 00:51:38,494
if you're going to repeat what

1771
00:51:38,494 --> 00:51:40,363
somebody else is, has said,

1772
00:51:40,363 --> 00:51:41,698
like raise your hand or

1773
00:51:41,698 --> 00:51:42,632
something to indicate your

1774
00:51:42,632 --> 00:51:43,433
support of what they're saying

1775
00:51:43,433 --> 00:51:45,101
so we don't have to hear it 13

1776
00:51:45,101 --> 00:51:46,569
times over. But we still get a

1777
00:51:46,569 --> 00:51:49,038
point of, are we here? We can

1778
00:51:49,038 --> 00:51:50,106
see the quantity of folks that

1779
00:51:50,106 --> 00:51:51,507
support or agree with what's

1780
00:51:51,507 --> 00:51:53,243
being stated. I mean, that's I

1781
00:51:53,243 --> 00:51:54,544
guess, an example of what I'm

1782
00:51:54,544 --> 00:51:56,179
asking about.

1783
00:51:56,179 --> 00:51:57,880
Absolutely. And I don't know if

1784
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,148
that needs to be explicitly

1785
00:51:59,148 --> 00:52:00,049
written out in the bill

1786
00:52:00,049 --> 00:52:00,984
language. I think that can

1787
00:52:00,984 --> 00:52:02,485
probably fall within the the

1788
00:52:02,485 --> 00:52:04,053
quorum and the guidance of the

1789
00:52:04,053 --> 00:52:08,024
presiding officer.

1790
00:52:08,024 --> 00:52:09,993
I'm not trying to rewrite

1791
00:52:09,993 --> 00:52:11,394
history here, people. I'm

1792
00:52:11,394 --> 00:52:13,830
trying to change one small

1793
00:52:13,830 --> 00:52:16,866
thing. Nothing changes outside

1794
00:52:16,866 --> 00:52:18,534
of the fact that you can

1795
00:52:18,534 --> 00:52:20,603
discuss items that are not on

1796
00:52:20,603 --> 00:52:22,605
that meeting's agenda. That's

1797
00:52:22,605 --> 00:52:25,241
it. All other rules stay. It's

1798
00:52:25,241 --> 00:52:27,277
the same thing. If I was

1799
00:52:27,277 --> 00:52:28,511
sitting down there and I had a

1800
00:52:28,511 --> 00:52:30,446
problem with something, and I

1801
00:52:30,446 --> 00:52:32,949
use my three minutes and I

1802
00:52:32,949 --> 00:52:34,684
scream and I yell and I attack,

1803
00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:36,319
and I name caller and I cuss,

1804
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:37,587
that is not acceptable

1805
00:52:37,587 --> 00:52:39,122
behavior. No one's trying to

1806
00:52:39,122 --> 00:52:40,823
change that. I'm just saying

1807
00:52:40,823 --> 00:52:42,325
name one time in the five

1808
00:52:42,325 --> 00:52:43,860
months that I've six months,

1809
00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:44,827
five months that I've been up

1810
00:52:44,827 --> 00:52:46,362
here and the many months prior

1811
00:52:46,362 --> 00:52:47,630
to that, that I watched council

1812
00:52:47,630 --> 00:52:48,765
meetings, you know, how many

1813
00:52:48,765 --> 00:52:51,167
people total I saw use there?

1814
00:52:51,167 --> 00:52:52,669
Three minutes to speak on a

1815
00:52:52,669 --> 00:52:54,837
regular basis, one outside of a

1816
00:52:54,837 --> 00:52:57,740
regular basis, maybe five. This

1817
00:52:57,740 --> 00:52:59,909
is not opening up the door for

1818
00:52:59,909 --> 00:53:01,644
a hundred people to line up and

1819
00:53:01,644 --> 00:53:02,745
come in here and be like, I

1820
00:53:02,745 --> 00:53:04,213
want my three minutes to

1821
00:53:04,213 --> 00:53:06,382
complain about something.

1822
00:53:06,382 --> 00:53:07,517
That's not how I feel about our

1823
00:53:07,517 --> 00:53:08,651
residents. That's not how any

1824
00:53:08,651 --> 00:53:09,986
of you should feel about our

1825
00:53:09,986 --> 00:53:12,055
residents. This is simply meant

1826
00:53:12,055 --> 00:53:14,757
to say, like the poor woman at

1827
00:53:14,757 --> 00:53:15,992
the last meeting who had to

1828
00:53:15,992 --> 00:53:17,960
just write a letter because she

1829
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,662
was told she cannot come speak,

1830
00:53:19,662 --> 00:53:21,664
or the gentleman who lives on

1831
00:53:21,664 --> 00:53:24,100
Brian Road, who has things he

1832
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:25,501
wants to say and addresses

1833
00:53:25,501 --> 00:53:27,270
those with Amanda and I

1834
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:29,205
regularly, and he wants to be

1835
00:53:29,205 --> 00:53:30,673
heard by the council as a

1836
00:53:30,673 --> 00:53:31,674
whole. And if that makes him

1837
00:53:31,674 --> 00:53:33,242
feel better to come in here and

1838
00:53:33,242 --> 00:53:34,977
for three minutes say what he

1839
00:53:34,977 --> 00:53:36,412
doesn't agree with, or our

1840
00:53:36,412 --> 00:53:38,548
request to change, or just get

1841
00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:40,016
it off his chest, why can he

1842
00:53:40,016 --> 00:53:42,251
not do that? It is literally no

1843
00:53:42,251 --> 00:53:43,519
different than speaking on an

1844
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,221
agenda item, except for it's

1845
00:53:45,221 --> 00:53:47,824
not an agenda item.

1846
00:53:47,824 --> 00:53:51,027
It's just.

1847
00:53:51,027 --> 00:53:52,429
Brian.

1848
00:53:52,429 --> 00:53:54,263
So, Debbie, you've been here.

1849
00:53:54,263 --> 00:53:57,033
You sat through this quietly.

1850
00:53:57,033 --> 00:53:59,302
Yeah. Um, you had the

1851
00:53:59,302 --> 00:54:00,570
experience. You were part of

1852
00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:02,205
the crew that put this in

1853
00:54:02,205 --> 00:54:03,373
place. So what are your

1854
00:54:03,373 --> 00:54:06,843
concerns and thoughts on this?

1855
00:54:06,843 --> 00:54:09,178
So I was one of three people

1856
00:54:09,178 --> 00:54:11,147
that voted against it. I did

1857
00:54:11,147 --> 00:54:13,349
not want the I did not want the

1858
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:17,686
ordinance to change hindsight.

1859
00:54:17,686 --> 00:54:19,889
I can remember one person

1860
00:54:19,889 --> 00:54:21,624
coming in to speak on a non

1861
00:54:21,624 --> 00:54:23,326
agenda item about a stop sign

1862
00:54:23,326 --> 00:54:25,661
in Ward three. As a whole, we

1863
00:54:25,661 --> 00:54:27,764
didn't have too much. We really

1864
00:54:27,764 --> 00:54:29,932
didn't have people coming in to

1865
00:54:29,932 --> 00:54:31,968
speak. So I don't know if it's

1866
00:54:31,968 --> 00:54:33,002
really affected that many

1867
00:54:33,002 --> 00:54:34,637
people that we have closed it.

1868
00:54:34,637 --> 00:54:36,272
But I was one that said, no, I

1869
00:54:36,272 --> 00:54:39,642
don't want to close it. Um, you

1870
00:54:39,642 --> 00:54:41,177
know, we have so many avenues

1871
00:54:41,177 --> 00:54:42,945
now to reach out to us. We have

1872
00:54:42,945 --> 00:54:44,213
a lot of social media. We have

1873
00:54:44,213 --> 00:54:45,548
emails, we have phone calls. We

1874
00:54:45,548 --> 00:54:48,384
have all kinds of ways. So, you

1875
00:54:48,384 --> 00:54:49,351
know, there are a lot of ways

1876
00:54:49,351 --> 00:54:50,787
for people to get Ahold of us

1877
00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:53,856
now. So I I'm on the fence. I

1878
00:54:53,856 --> 00:54:54,891
mean, I would love to open it

1879
00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:56,392
back up to I've missed the days

1880
00:54:56,392 --> 00:54:57,627
where people could come up. I

1881
00:54:57,627 --> 00:55:00,062
don't think it gets abused, but

1882
00:55:00,062 --> 00:55:01,764
at the same time, I see how

1883
00:55:01,764 --> 00:55:03,366
smoothly our meetings do go.

1884
00:55:03,366 --> 00:55:05,268
And I know people have other

1885
00:55:05,268 --> 00:55:06,836
avenues of reaching out to us,

1886
00:55:06,836 --> 00:55:09,539
so I'm hearing both sides of

1887
00:55:09,539 --> 00:55:10,540
everybody's arguments. I'm

1888
00:55:10,540 --> 00:55:11,541
sitting here listening to all

1889
00:55:11,541 --> 00:55:12,342
of it.

1890
00:55:12,342 --> 00:55:14,377
And sometimes people just want

1891
00:55:14,377 --> 00:55:17,747
to feel heard. And that for a

1892
00:55:17,747 --> 00:55:19,749
lot of people, means standing

1893
00:55:19,749 --> 00:55:22,485
up here in front of all of us,

1894
00:55:22,485 --> 00:55:24,554
being seen and feeling heard.

1895
00:55:24,554 --> 00:55:26,088
Social media, emails, text

1896
00:55:26,088 --> 00:55:27,190
messages, phone calls, all of

1897
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:28,357
that is fine and great, and

1898
00:55:28,357 --> 00:55:29,826
that is utilized very regularly

1899
00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:32,395
for all of us. Sometimes they

1900
00:55:32,395 --> 00:55:35,364
just want to feel like they are

1901
00:55:35,364 --> 00:55:36,866
being heard, and that means

1902
00:55:36,866 --> 00:55:38,468
standing here, speaking their

1903
00:55:38,468 --> 00:55:40,170
piece and sitting down.

1904
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:43,038
And really, isn't that our job,

1905
00:55:43,038 --> 00:55:44,574
right? I mean, isn't that what

1906
00:55:44,574 --> 00:55:45,775
we're here for? To be here for

1907
00:55:45,775 --> 00:55:49,111
the residents and to hear them.

1908
00:55:49,111 --> 00:55:50,513
Mr. Palmer?

1909
00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:52,014
Yeah. I mean, no, no

1910
00:55:52,014 --> 00:55:54,283
disagreement. Um, I, I mean, I

1911
00:55:54,283 --> 00:55:55,718
would question if someone has

1912
00:55:55,718 --> 00:55:57,753
an issue in your ward

1913
00:55:57,753 --> 00:55:59,889
specifically. Do they need to

1914
00:55:59,889 --> 00:56:02,091
reach out to me? No, but I

1915
00:56:02,091 --> 00:56:03,860
guess as a way of reaching some

1916
00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:05,094
type of compromise and

1917
00:56:05,094 --> 00:56:07,029
potentially moving forward, I

1918
00:56:07,029 --> 00:56:09,632
guess what I would ask is,

1919
00:56:09,632 --> 00:56:11,067
could we just take some inputs

1920
00:56:11,067 --> 00:56:12,335
on ways to enhance? We talked

1921
00:56:12,335 --> 00:56:13,369
about a lot of them, but ways

1922
00:56:13,369 --> 00:56:15,838
of enhancing it. And then if it

1923
00:56:15,838 --> 00:56:20,810
gets approved, do a a review in

1924
00:56:20,810 --> 00:56:22,245
six months or something to see.

1925
00:56:22,245 --> 00:56:24,480
Like did the fears we had on it

1926
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,615
come to pass and how would we

1927
00:56:25,615 --> 00:56:26,816
adjust further? I mean, I

1928
00:56:26,816 --> 00:56:27,950
think, if nothing else, a trial

1929
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:29,618
period to see, because you're

1930
00:56:29,618 --> 00:56:31,254
right, none of us work well,

1931
00:56:31,254 --> 00:56:34,023
none. Most of us weren't here.

1932
00:56:34,023 --> 00:56:37,960
And so, I mean, if it does get

1933
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,228
approved with additional

1934
00:56:39,228 --> 00:56:41,364
changes, can we at least try

1935
00:56:41,364 --> 00:56:42,265
it? But throw in there that

1936
00:56:42,265 --> 00:56:44,467
we'll revisit it in 3 or 6

1937
00:56:44,467 --> 00:56:45,301
months and then we'll be able

1938
00:56:45,301 --> 00:56:46,769
to adjust again. I don't know.

1939
00:56:46,769 --> 00:56:52,442
I guess that's all.

1940
00:56:52,442 --> 00:56:54,243
Again, this is on for first

1941
00:56:54,243 --> 00:56:57,513
reading. So you know, I would

1942
00:56:57,513 --> 00:56:59,081
suggest you all get get

1943
00:56:59,081 --> 00:57:00,517
together and come up. You know,

1944
00:57:00,517 --> 00:57:04,353
we have to make an amendment.

1945
00:57:04,353 --> 00:57:08,691
In two weeks to do it. It's up

1946
00:57:08,691 --> 00:57:15,731
to you guys. Okay. Mr. link,

1947
00:57:15,731 --> 00:57:17,200
next one's yours, brother.

1948
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,601
All right. Thank you, mayor.

1949
00:57:18,601 --> 00:57:20,570
All right, so the multifamily

1950
00:57:20,570 --> 00:57:22,138
housing study, a little bit of

1951
00:57:22,138 --> 00:57:23,706
an update on that. I know we,

1952
00:57:23,706 --> 00:57:25,308
uh, there's been some travel

1953
00:57:25,308 --> 00:57:26,676
with other council members

1954
00:57:26,676 --> 00:57:29,245
myself. Um, last meeting, uh,

1955
00:57:29,245 --> 00:57:30,713
but wanted to revisit it.

1956
00:57:30,713 --> 00:57:32,415
Despite the moratorium bill not

1957
00:57:32,415 --> 00:57:34,216
passing, as I think the studies

1958
00:57:34,216 --> 00:57:35,885
were still a central element of

1959
00:57:35,885 --> 00:57:37,420
it in the way that they can

1960
00:57:37,420 --> 00:57:39,989
either better inform us or help

1961
00:57:39,989 --> 00:57:42,024
us with making legislative

1962
00:57:42,024 --> 00:57:44,193
changes to our code. Um, so a

1963
00:57:44,193 --> 00:57:45,561
quick update on that. Like I

1964
00:57:45,561 --> 00:57:46,896
said, we met with staff last

1965
00:57:46,896 --> 00:57:48,965
week. Uh, they provided us some

1966
00:57:48,965 --> 00:57:51,601
input and also assembled, uh,

1967
00:57:51,601 --> 00:57:53,235
granite was very first rough

1968
00:57:53,235 --> 00:57:55,805
cut of the scope of effort. If

1969
00:57:55,805 --> 00:57:57,373
we were to literally do every

1970
00:57:57,373 --> 00:57:59,909
single study in the 22 page

1971
00:57:59,909 --> 00:58:01,944
document that I know you've all

1972
00:58:01,944 --> 00:58:03,412
diligently read over the last

1973
00:58:03,412 --> 00:58:05,548
month, wonderful reading

1974
00:58:05,548 --> 00:58:07,984
material. Yeah. So in either

1975
00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:09,652
case, once again, it was a very

1976
00:58:09,652 --> 00:58:11,854
rough cut. Uh, nonetheless, we

1977
00:58:11,854 --> 00:58:13,222
reviewed that for about an

1978
00:58:13,222 --> 00:58:15,291
hour. And I think what we

1979
00:58:15,291 --> 00:58:16,993
determined out of that was the

1980
00:58:16,993 --> 00:58:19,261
best course of action forward

1981
00:58:19,261 --> 00:58:21,430
was to create a working group.

1982
00:58:21,430 --> 00:58:24,367
And what council member Boyer

1983
00:58:24,367 --> 00:58:27,070
and myself had proposed was to

1984
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:29,038
create a working group of five

1985
00:58:29,038 --> 00:58:31,874
members, one from each ward.

1986
00:58:31,874 --> 00:58:33,342
And the role of this working

1987
00:58:33,342 --> 00:58:35,544
group would basically be to

1988
00:58:35,544 --> 00:58:37,580
look at the 22 pages of

1989
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:40,249
studies, prioritize which ones

1990
00:58:40,249 --> 00:58:41,250
we think are going to, you

1991
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:43,452
know, be the most impactful for

1992
00:58:43,452 --> 00:58:45,254
either information we need or

1993
00:58:45,254 --> 00:58:47,423
missing. Also, balancing that

1994
00:58:47,423 --> 00:58:49,859
with cost. And then also

1995
00:58:49,859 --> 00:58:52,027
prioritizing time wise. You

1996
00:58:52,027 --> 00:58:53,262
know, what we don't want to do

1997
00:58:53,262 --> 00:58:55,798
is wait, you know, 12 to 18

1998
00:58:55,798 --> 00:58:57,800
months and then have this

1999
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,502
massive chunk of information

2000
00:58:59,502 --> 00:59:00,703
come out at the end. We thought

2001
00:59:00,703 --> 00:59:02,571
it would be better to kind of

2002
00:59:02,571 --> 00:59:04,540
release the information and

2003
00:59:04,540 --> 00:59:06,642
studies as we go. And once

2004
00:59:06,642 --> 00:59:08,911
again prioritize those based on

2005
00:59:08,911 --> 00:59:11,280
interest. Um, kind of. Before I

2006
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,748
get to the summary here, I'm

2007
00:59:12,748 --> 00:59:15,151
going to, uh, Councilman Boyer,

2008
00:59:15,151 --> 00:59:15,918
I don't know if there's

2009
00:59:15,918 --> 00:59:16,753
anything you wanted to add to

2010
00:59:16,753 --> 00:59:18,521
that that I missed, but, um, I

2011
00:59:18,521 --> 00:59:19,522
will have one thing to go back

2012
00:59:19,522 --> 00:59:20,289
to when you're done.

2013
00:59:20,289 --> 00:59:21,524
I know you've you've done a

2014
00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:22,992
fabulous job of covering what

2015
00:59:22,992 --> 00:59:25,828
we did. Um, it was a big price

2016
00:59:25,828 --> 00:59:27,196
tag that we saw. There's a lot

2017
00:59:27,196 --> 00:59:29,532
of data that we wanted, and,

2018
00:59:29,532 --> 00:59:31,600
um. Yeah, I think collectively,

2019
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,969
we can then figure out what makes sense for us and

2020
00:59:33,969 --> 00:59:35,070
what what do we need? The

2021
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:35,905
city's got a lot of

2022
00:59:35,905 --> 00:59:37,440
information, but there's also

2023
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,741
stuff that we have to purchase

2024
00:59:38,741 --> 00:59:40,042
and get out there. So we need

2025
00:59:40,042 --> 00:59:41,210
to make sure we make the right

2026
00:59:41,210 --> 00:59:44,147
smart decisions. So thank you.

2027
00:59:44,147 --> 00:59:47,116
And so I guess to

2028
00:59:47,116 --> 00:59:48,551
mechanize that and we can

2029
00:59:48,551 --> 00:59:50,219
certainly talk about this with

2030
00:59:50,219 --> 00:59:52,488
the time, but what I like to do

2031
00:59:52,488 --> 00:59:53,689
either after we talk or have

2032
00:59:53,689 --> 00:59:55,357
some back and forth, is to

2033
00:59:55,357 --> 00:59:57,860
conduct a roll call vote, in

2034
00:59:57,860 --> 01:00:01,397
which either we would approve,

2035
01:00:01,397 --> 01:00:03,265
uh, us to create this working

2036
01:00:03,265 --> 01:00:06,102
group because we basically need

2037
01:00:06,102 --> 01:00:07,670
the council's consensus as we'd

2038
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:08,304
be directing

2039
01:00:08,304 --> 01:00:09,972
Staff to these studies. We

2040
01:00:09,972 --> 01:00:11,440
cannot do that individually, so

2041
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,242
it needs the consensus of the

2042
01:00:13,242 --> 01:00:16,212
council to do that. Um, and so

2043
01:00:16,212 --> 01:00:17,346
I'd like to open up for

2044
01:00:17,346 --> 01:00:18,581
discussion before we conduct

2045
01:00:18,581 --> 01:00:18,981
that vote.

2046
01:00:18,981 --> 01:00:21,584
And just as a reminder, if this

2047
01:00:21,584 --> 01:00:23,686
does pass for the five, you

2048
01:00:23,686 --> 01:00:26,222
know, passes, the council, the

2049
01:00:26,222 --> 01:00:28,057
five working group, if you're

2050
01:00:28,057 --> 01:00:30,192
not on that working group, you

2051
01:00:30,192 --> 01:00:33,562
cannot show up. All right. So,

2052
01:00:33,562 --> 01:00:35,631
Mr. Koskela of Mr. Link's on

2053
01:00:35,631 --> 01:00:37,032
it. You cannot show up at that

2054
01:00:37,032 --> 01:00:38,467
meeting because that would make

2055
01:00:38,467 --> 01:00:42,404
a quorum. So just let everybody

2056
01:00:42,404 --> 01:00:44,907
know.

2057
01:00:44,907 --> 01:00:47,476
If if I may complicate life a

2058
01:00:47,476 --> 01:00:49,278
little further. because that's

2059
01:00:49,278 --> 01:00:53,716
what I do. If you establish.

2060
01:00:53,716 --> 01:00:55,150
A working group, whatever you

2061
01:00:55,150 --> 01:00:56,719
want to call it, that body is

2062
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:58,120
subject to the sunshine line.

2063
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,989
It is a public, governmental

2064
01:00:59,989 --> 01:01:01,190
body within the meaning of the

2065
01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:02,925
Sunshine Law. That means those

2066
01:01:02,925 --> 01:01:05,261
meetings must be posted open to

2067
01:01:05,261 --> 01:01:07,263
the public, and follow all the

2068
01:01:07,263 --> 01:01:09,465
sunshine Law requirements for

2069
01:01:09,465 --> 01:01:12,168
notice. Tentative agenda and

2070
01:01:12,168 --> 01:01:15,905
access to to the meetings. If

2071
01:01:15,905 --> 01:01:18,841
then members of the Council

2072
01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:23,479
show up and magnify that body

2073
01:01:23,479 --> 01:01:25,681
into a quorum of the Council,

2074
01:01:25,681 --> 01:01:27,316
there is a risk that you will

2075
01:01:27,316 --> 01:01:28,951
violate the Sunshine Law, as

2076
01:01:28,951 --> 01:01:30,186
the mayor said, because you

2077
01:01:30,186 --> 01:01:31,754
will create a meeting of the

2078
01:01:31,754 --> 01:01:33,656
council. If there is a quorum

2079
01:01:33,656 --> 01:01:34,990
of the Council president

2080
01:01:34,990 --> 01:01:36,992
discussing council business.

2081
01:01:36,992 --> 01:01:38,894
So, first of all, creating this

2082
01:01:38,894 --> 01:01:41,630
as a subgroup does not exempt

2083
01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:42,965
it from the Sunshine Law. The

2084
01:01:42,965 --> 01:01:45,134
Sunshine Law still applies. So

2085
01:01:45,134 --> 01:01:46,535
all of the requirements for

2086
01:01:46,535 --> 01:01:48,771
notice and access and agendas

2087
01:01:48,771 --> 01:01:51,908
will still be applicable.

2088
01:01:51,908 --> 01:01:53,676
But.

2089
01:01:53,676 --> 01:01:55,478
When.

2090
01:01:55,478 --> 01:01:57,680
Did we come up with a cost to

2091
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,714
the city of what the study is

2092
01:01:58,714 --> 01:01:59,816
going to cost?

2093
01:01:59,816 --> 01:02:01,584
So if you did every single one,

2094
01:02:01,584 --> 01:02:03,986
the very rough cut was $1

2095
01:02:03,986 --> 01:02:05,988
million. The vast majority of

2096
01:02:05,988 --> 01:02:07,656
those being traffic studies.

2097
01:02:07,656 --> 01:02:09,525
There were ones as low as a

2098
01:02:09,525 --> 01:02:10,625
thousand, but once again they

2099
01:02:10,625 --> 01:02:13,195
were very rough cut numbers and

2100
01:02:13,195 --> 01:02:15,664
it was a line item list of, I'm

2101
01:02:15,664 --> 01:02:18,901
going to say over 100 items. So.

2102
01:02:19,001 --> 01:02:21,303
what's our cost anticipated

2103
01:02:21,303 --> 01:02:22,504
to be with it being scaled

2104
01:02:22,504 --> 01:02:23,172
down?

2105
01:02:23,172 --> 01:02:24,406
Well, that's for the working

2106
01:02:24,406 --> 01:02:25,674
group to decide in terms of

2107
01:02:25,674 --> 01:02:27,910
what studies we want to pursue.

2108
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:29,678
But once we start the the bill

2109
01:02:29,678 --> 01:02:31,480
starts accruing, right.

2110
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,816
Well, whatever data we need it

2111
01:02:33,816 --> 01:02:35,851
would do that. If there's a

2112
01:02:35,851 --> 01:02:37,286
certain study that we want

2113
01:02:37,286 --> 01:02:39,455
done. Right. So some studies we

2114
01:02:39,455 --> 01:02:40,522
actually have the data for,

2115
01:02:40,522 --> 01:02:41,757
it's probably very minimal.

2116
01:02:41,757 --> 01:02:43,392
It's just staff time to pull

2117
01:02:43,392 --> 01:02:45,761
it. Others you know, we either

2118
01:02:45,761 --> 01:02:47,696
need to reach out to other

2119
01:02:47,696 --> 01:02:49,331
organizations, which could just

2120
01:02:49,331 --> 01:02:51,000
be a fire department. Right.

2121
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,234
Others we might need a higher

2122
01:02:52,234 --> 01:02:54,403
professional help for, um, they

2123
01:02:54,403 --> 01:02:55,704
staff did a really nice job of

2124
01:02:55,704 --> 01:02:57,406
breaking it down into like four

2125
01:02:57,406 --> 01:02:59,942
categories of we've got it,

2126
01:02:59,942 --> 01:03:01,577
partner organization

2127
01:03:01,577 --> 01:03:03,445
professionals or what the heck

2128
01:03:03,445 --> 01:03:04,747
are you asking for, Doug? We

2129
01:03:04,747 --> 01:03:08,217
can't get that information.

2130
01:03:08,217 --> 01:03:09,251
And the reason I bring it up,

2131
01:03:09,251 --> 01:03:10,186
I'm not opposed to doing the

2132
01:03:10,186 --> 01:03:11,520
study, but I don't think the

2133
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,222
city should incur $1 million

2134
01:03:13,222 --> 01:03:14,490
cost on this study either.

2135
01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:15,791
Well, right. And let me

2136
01:03:15,791 --> 01:03:17,259
completely rewind the million

2137
01:03:17,259 --> 01:03:18,694
dollar number. I do not intend

2138
01:03:18,694 --> 01:03:21,196
on us going down and spending

2139
01:03:21,196 --> 01:03:24,166
$1 million. That is just it. As

2140
01:03:24,166 --> 01:03:25,334
if you're going to do every

2141
01:03:25,334 --> 01:03:29,104
single one as listed on there.

2142
01:03:29,104 --> 01:03:31,240
Yeah, that's the once we saw

2143
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,307
the price tag, we're like, all

2144
01:03:32,307 --> 01:03:33,809
right, we need to rethink and

2145
01:03:33,809 --> 01:03:34,910
retool how we're going to

2146
01:03:34,910 --> 01:03:36,178
attack this. So that's where

2147
01:03:36,178 --> 01:03:38,113
the working group came in. So

2148
01:03:38,113 --> 01:03:39,915
we can then direct what makes

2149
01:03:39,915 --> 01:03:42,451
sense and what's what's pie in

2150
01:03:42,451 --> 01:03:46,355
the sky and not needed.

2151
01:03:46,355 --> 01:03:48,290
Mr. Snowden thank you, mayor. I

2152
01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:49,959
think it's important to note

2153
01:03:49,959 --> 01:03:53,629
that any funds expended would

2154
01:03:53,629 --> 01:03:55,731
not be budgeted. And so it

2155
01:03:55,731 --> 01:03:56,765
would have to come back to the

2156
01:03:56,765 --> 01:03:58,200
council for approval to

2157
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,568
actually expend the funds.

2158
01:03:59,568 --> 01:04:01,470
So I if I can put words in your

2159
01:04:01,470 --> 01:04:02,871
mouth, Mr. Link, the working

2160
01:04:02,871 --> 01:04:05,474
group would be deciding which

2161
01:04:05,474 --> 01:04:07,910
studies need to be done. We

2162
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:09,645
would then compile how much we

2163
01:04:09,645 --> 01:04:11,080
think that might cost, whether

2164
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:12,047
there needs to be an RFP

2165
01:04:12,047 --> 01:04:13,515
process that would then come

2166
01:04:13,515 --> 01:04:14,650
back to the council because the

2167
01:04:14,650 --> 01:04:16,252
funds are budgeted.

2168
01:04:16,252 --> 01:04:17,486
Thank you, Mr. Snow. And that

2169
01:04:17,486 --> 01:04:18,854
would come back as a just a

2170
01:04:18,854 --> 01:04:20,622
line item resolution to

2171
01:04:20,622 --> 01:04:23,525
authorize that spending. If

2172
01:04:23,525 --> 01:04:24,626
it's not in the budget,

2173
01:04:24,626 --> 01:04:26,495
correct. If the budget next

2174
01:04:26,495 --> 01:04:28,431
year accounted for some of

2175
01:04:28,431 --> 01:04:29,465
these studies, we would not

2176
01:04:29,465 --> 01:04:31,734
need to do that.

2177
01:04:31,734 --> 01:04:33,402
If the funds are budgeted, we

2178
01:04:33,402 --> 01:04:34,470
would not need to come back to

2179
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:35,804
the council to spend the funds.

2180
01:04:35,804 --> 01:04:37,406
It's unadjusted. We would.

2181
01:04:37,406 --> 01:04:39,641
All right. Thank you.

2182
01:04:39,641 --> 01:04:41,811
Mr. Palmer.

2183
01:04:41,811 --> 01:04:44,380
Um, as I mentioned in my nine

2184
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:46,148
page, thank you for reading

2185
01:04:46,148 --> 01:04:48,517
letter, Mr. Mayor. Uh, I guess

2186
01:04:48,517 --> 01:04:49,318
one of the things I want to

2187
01:04:49,318 --> 01:04:50,486
make sure whether or not I'm on

2188
01:04:50,486 --> 01:04:52,121
the group or not, one of the

2189
01:04:52,121 --> 01:04:53,922
things I want to make sure is

2190
01:04:53,922 --> 01:04:55,157
that before we commence any

2191
01:04:55,157 --> 01:04:56,692
studies, we talk through the

2192
01:04:56,692 --> 01:04:57,893
potential outcomes of those

2193
01:04:57,893 --> 01:04:59,094
studies and what actions we

2194
01:04:59,094 --> 01:05:00,496
would take, because I would

2195
01:05:00,496 --> 01:05:01,696
hate to get to an outcome that

2196
01:05:01,696 --> 01:05:03,932
we can't do anything about. And

2197
01:05:03,932 --> 01:05:05,534
then the other one is, I sure

2198
01:05:05,534 --> 01:05:07,002
hope that if we approve these

2199
01:05:07,002 --> 01:05:09,038
studies, that those actions we

2200
01:05:09,038 --> 01:05:10,206
take, we say would be

2201
01:05:10,206 --> 01:05:11,206
appropriate, that we actually

2202
01:05:11,206 --> 01:05:12,241
do them. And I'm going to throw

2203
01:05:12,241 --> 01:05:14,443
an extreme hypothetical. If a

2204
01:05:14,443 --> 01:05:16,712
study says we have insufficient

2205
01:05:16,712 --> 01:05:18,314
housing, and the answer is to

2206
01:05:18,314 --> 01:05:20,783
go build more apartments then

2207
01:05:20,783 --> 01:05:21,684
and I'm throwing that out

2208
01:05:21,684 --> 01:05:23,218
intentionally, right. Not to be

2209
01:05:23,218 --> 01:05:27,790
provocative, but the point is, I feel like if we if we take

2210
01:05:27,790 --> 01:05:29,324
these on, we should be somewhat

2211
01:05:29,324 --> 01:05:31,060
committed to the outcomes and

2212
01:05:31,060 --> 01:05:32,227
the actions that we take that

2213
01:05:32,227 --> 01:05:33,295
were commensurate with those

2214
01:05:33,295 --> 01:05:34,830
studies. If we have a

2215
01:05:34,830 --> 01:05:36,031
predetermined answer that there

2216
01:05:36,031 --> 01:05:36,932
are some things we are not

2217
01:05:36,932 --> 01:05:38,801
going to do, then we should not

2218
01:05:38,801 --> 01:05:40,836
start the studies because we if

2219
01:05:40,836 --> 01:05:41,570
we're not going to live with

2220
01:05:41,570 --> 01:05:43,338
the answers, then we shouldn't

2221
01:05:43,338 --> 01:05:44,439
ask the questions, if that

2222
01:05:44,439 --> 01:05:45,007
makes sense.

2223
01:05:45,007 --> 01:05:46,442
Yeah. Absolutely. Understood.

2224
01:05:46,442 --> 01:05:47,609
And you know, the one thing

2225
01:05:47,609 --> 01:05:49,244
though I will say to that is if

2226
01:05:49,244 --> 01:05:51,013
we just do a housing supply

2227
01:05:51,013 --> 01:05:52,081
study, it's probably not the

2228
01:05:52,081 --> 01:05:53,482
whole picture. It's one piece

2229
01:05:53,482 --> 01:05:55,317
of it, right. There may be a,

2230
01:05:55,317 --> 01:05:57,352
you know, demand for housing.

2231
01:05:57,352 --> 01:05:58,487
The question is, can

2232
01:05:58,487 --> 01:06:00,255
infrastructure, roads and

2233
01:06:00,255 --> 01:06:01,490
things support that? And if

2234
01:06:01,490 --> 01:06:03,125
not, what are the projects we

2235
01:06:03,125 --> 01:06:04,359
can do to put those in place

2236
01:06:04,359 --> 01:06:05,727
before we would start those

2237
01:06:05,727 --> 01:06:07,362
developments? So, um, you know,

2238
01:06:07,362 --> 01:06:08,964
just because we have one

2239
01:06:08,964 --> 01:06:10,732
answer, we may not have an

2240
01:06:10,732 --> 01:06:12,334
entire, let's say, because we

2241
01:06:12,334 --> 01:06:14,069
have some information that

2242
01:06:14,069 --> 01:06:15,270
answers one question. It's not

2243
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:17,106
enough to inform an action.

2244
01:06:17,106 --> 01:06:18,774
And that and that's part of why

2245
01:06:18,774 --> 01:06:20,109
that's part of my why I'm

2246
01:06:20,109 --> 01:06:21,777
requesting it is in that same

2247
01:06:21,777 --> 01:06:22,611
case, if you have like this

2248
01:06:22,611 --> 01:06:25,147
network of studies that they

2249
01:06:25,147 --> 01:06:26,582
are codependent upon each other

2250
01:06:26,582 --> 01:06:27,883
and any individual that you

2251
01:06:27,883 --> 01:06:29,084
know doesn't wouldn't drive

2252
01:06:29,084 --> 01:06:30,318
action, then we want to make

2253
01:06:30,318 --> 01:06:31,286
sure that any that are

2254
01:06:31,286 --> 01:06:32,754
codependent would occur,

2255
01:06:32,754 --> 01:06:33,688
because if there are three that

2256
01:06:33,688 --> 01:06:34,857
are codependent, we only do

2257
01:06:34,857 --> 01:06:36,659
two. Then we did nothing in the

2258
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:37,593
end. So that would be something

2259
01:06:37,593 --> 01:06:38,427
else we would want to watch

2260
01:06:38,427 --> 01:06:39,662
for. I think it's a good point.

2261
01:06:39,662 --> 01:06:42,731
Yep. Completely agree.

2262
01:06:42,731 --> 01:06:45,300
Anybody else?

2263
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:46,335
All right.

2264
01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:47,503
Go ahead. I was just going to

2265
01:06:47,503 --> 01:06:48,570
say I read through it three

2266
01:06:48,570 --> 01:06:49,805
times, mostly because I fell

2267
01:06:49,805 --> 01:06:52,141
asleep the first two times. Um,

2268
01:06:52,141 --> 01:06:54,209
but like I have significant

2269
01:06:54,209 --> 01:06:55,544
questions on the ability to get

2270
01:06:55,544 --> 01:06:56,745
the data and to answer some of

2271
01:06:56,745 --> 01:06:58,247
the questions and even the

2272
01:06:58,247 --> 01:07:00,449
modeling. I just like the

2273
01:07:00,449 --> 01:07:01,717
engineer side of me, kicked in

2274
01:07:01,717 --> 01:07:05,187
and just tilted real fast. Um,

2275
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:07,056
so I just, I would whether or

2276
01:07:07,056 --> 01:07:08,857
not I'm on that special group,

2277
01:07:08,857 --> 01:07:10,158
I would really love to be able

2278
01:07:10,158 --> 01:07:13,362
to know, uh, kind of the plan

2279
01:07:13,362 --> 01:07:14,163
on each of the studies, we

2280
01:07:14,163 --> 01:07:16,165
agree to go forward with, to

2281
01:07:16,165 --> 01:07:16,999
just make sure that they're

2282
01:07:16,999 --> 01:07:18,767
possible, et.

2283
01:07:18,767 --> 01:07:20,135
Absolutely. And I'll let you

2284
01:07:20,135 --> 01:07:21,703
and Councilwoman Cook rock

2285
01:07:21,703 --> 01:07:23,205
scissors paper over that

2286
01:07:23,205 --> 01:07:24,706
however you'd like to decide

2287
01:07:24,706 --> 01:07:26,241
it. Um, but nonetheless, I

2288
01:07:26,241 --> 01:07:29,211
think you'd be great on it.

2289
01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:33,549
Okay. Anybody else? So, Mr.

2290
01:07:33,549 --> 01:07:36,418
Link, you are wanting a roll

2291
01:07:36,418 --> 01:07:42,157
call for forming the elected

2292
01:07:42,157 --> 01:07:50,465
officials? Direct. Have a

2293
01:07:50,465 --> 01:07:53,302
working group to work with

2294
01:07:53,302 --> 01:07:56,205
staff on the study..

2295
01:07:56,205 --> 01:08:01,210
At a high level, yes.

2296
01:08:01,210 --> 01:08:03,045
Mr. Palmer.

2297
01:08:03,045 --> 01:08:04,846
Relative to what? My lawyer

2298
01:08:04,846 --> 01:08:06,215
friend to my left mentioned,

2299
01:08:06,215 --> 01:08:07,349
I'm not sure I understand

2300
01:08:07,349 --> 01:08:08,383
everything that that means.

2301
01:08:08,383 --> 01:08:09,551
Does that mean we have to have,

2302
01:08:09,551 --> 01:08:11,286
like, a a clerk or something

2303
01:08:11,286 --> 01:08:12,754
would have to be available? It

2304
01:08:12,754 --> 01:08:14,223
would have to be televised,

2305
01:08:14,223 --> 01:08:15,657
have to be recorded. But

2306
01:08:15,657 --> 01:08:16,825
whatever those are, I just want

2307
01:08:16,825 --> 01:08:18,627
to make sure that I guess I'm

2308
01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:20,929
asking Mike that staff can

2309
01:08:20,929 --> 01:08:22,197
support if this ends up

2310
01:08:22,197 --> 01:08:23,565
happening, because it is

2311
01:08:23,565 --> 01:08:24,666
something different. An

2312
01:08:24,666 --> 01:08:26,134
additional for for staff to be

2313
01:08:26,134 --> 01:08:30,772
doing, even in the event of the the smaller group..

2314
01:08:30,772 --> 01:08:33,342
In a word, yes, staff can

2315
01:08:33,342 --> 01:08:35,110
support this.

2316
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:36,879
If that answer. Mike.

2317
01:08:36,879 --> 01:08:38,747
Amanda., I guess that's the

2318
01:08:38,747 --> 01:08:41,149
kind of follow up. Um, if this

2319
01:08:41,149 --> 01:08:42,417
is sunshine and we have to do

2320
01:08:42,417 --> 01:08:44,786
that already, then does it have

2321
01:08:44,786 --> 01:08:46,989
to be limited to that one per

2322
01:08:46,989 --> 01:08:48,357
ward? I mean, that was kind of

2323
01:08:48,357 --> 01:08:51,359
why you were doing that, right?

2324
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,863
So originally w n.

2325
01:08:54,863 --> 01:08:55,531
O'Keefe.

2326
01:08:55,531 --> 01:08:58,100
They both wanted to be on it.

2327
01:08:58,100 --> 01:08:58,434
Yes.

2328
01:08:58,434 --> 01:09:02,170
Sir. She's asking. Go ahead and

2329
01:09:02,170 --> 01:09:03,138
ask you a question again.

2330
01:09:03,138 --> 01:09:06,975
Amanda., in this new revelation

2331
01:09:06,975 --> 01:09:09,644
that, uh, this is subject to

2332
01:09:09,644 --> 01:09:11,046
sunshine and we have to follow

2333
01:09:11,046 --> 01:09:13,315
those same rules. Does that

2334
01:09:13,315 --> 01:09:15,951
mean now we can extend the

2335
01:09:15,951 --> 01:09:17,953
working group outside of five

2336
01:09:17,953 --> 01:09:20,255
members, since that seem to be

2337
01:09:20,255 --> 01:09:23,292
the reason for doing so to

2338
01:09:23,292 --> 01:09:25,494
begin with?

2339
01:09:25,494 --> 01:09:29,565
If it doesn't matter, okay.

2340
01:09:29,565 --> 01:09:33,402
It doesn't matter what?

2341
01:09:33,402 --> 01:09:35,203
Um.

2342
01:09:35,203 --> 01:09:37,372
Whether it's a committee, a

2343
01:09:37,372 --> 01:09:39,408
working group, whatever you

2344
01:09:39,408 --> 01:09:40,676
want to call it, if it's a

2345
01:09:40,676 --> 01:09:42,778
subunit of the city council

2346
01:09:42,778 --> 01:09:44,479
created for a given purpose,

2347
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,748
it's a body in and of itself,

2348
01:09:46,748 --> 01:09:48,350
subject to the Sunshine Law. If

2349
01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:49,685
you want to make it ten people,

2350
01:09:49,685 --> 01:09:50,819
you want to make it seven

2351
01:09:50,819 --> 01:09:52,154
people you want to make two

2352
01:09:52,154 --> 01:09:54,222
people. It's a body subject to

2353
01:09:54,222 --> 01:09:55,757
the sunshine line I so it

2354
01:09:55,757 --> 01:09:57,259
doesn't matter how many are put

2355
01:09:57,259 --> 01:09:57,526
on it.

2356
01:09:57,526 --> 01:09:59,361
I think I'm going to rephrase

2357
01:09:59,361 --> 01:10:00,662
what Councilwoman Taylor is

2358
01:10:00,662 --> 01:10:01,363
asking, or at least the

2359
01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:02,964
question that got prompted to

2360
01:10:02,964 --> 01:10:05,100
me. If there's seven, if we

2361
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:06,535
decide, hey, go to seven, does

2362
01:10:06,535 --> 01:10:08,503
that change anything that this

2363
01:10:08,503 --> 01:10:12,307
group would do, whether it's 5

2364
01:10:12,307 --> 01:10:14,076
or 7?

2365
01:10:14,076 --> 01:10:14,810
Or.

2366
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:15,511
Four.

2367
01:10:15,511 --> 01:10:17,612
Change anything legally? Is

2368
01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:19,848
that your question to me?

2369
01:10:19,848 --> 01:10:22,017
Does it does it matter? Like

2370
01:10:22,017 --> 01:10:23,685
there for some reason, five was

2371
01:10:23,685 --> 01:10:27,055
picked because you kind of, um,

2372
01:10:27,055 --> 01:10:29,624
you lessen a quorum and if all

2373
01:10:29,624 --> 01:10:31,927
the same rules apply, etc. and

2374
01:10:31,927 --> 01:10:33,328
I'm, I don't want him to

2375
01:10:33,328 --> 01:10:34,396
believe we're trying to skirt

2376
01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:35,530
or hide anything, right? Like

2377
01:10:35,530 --> 01:10:36,465
nobody's afraid of sunshine

2378
01:10:36,465 --> 01:10:38,333
laws. But but if it goes to

2379
01:10:38,333 --> 01:10:40,369
like 7 or 8 that want to

2380
01:10:40,369 --> 01:10:44,072
participate, like, would it, function differently

2381
01:10:44,072 --> 01:10:45,206
if there were 5 or 8? That's

2382
01:10:45,206 --> 01:10:46,174
what I, I don't I don't know

2383
01:10:46,174 --> 01:10:51,213
and I don't understand. Or are

2384
01:10:51,213 --> 01:10:52,614
you saying above five is the

2385
01:10:52,614 --> 01:10:56,651
same as the whole and the whole

2386
01:10:56,651 --> 01:10:57,753
council? And it would need to

2387
01:10:57,753 --> 01:11:05,561
be this forum anyways.

2388
01:11:05,561 --> 01:11:09,297
Well, and and to me, I really

2389
01:11:09,297 --> 01:11:11,133
don't want ten people on this

2390
01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:12,768
committee. I don't want seven.

2391
01:11:12,768 --> 01:11:15,303
To me I think one person per

2392
01:11:15,303 --> 01:11:18,540
ward, because you're going to

2393
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:21,743
get you get eight people on

2394
01:11:21,743 --> 01:11:23,945
this, this working group. And

2395
01:11:23,945 --> 01:11:26,081
what you're going to get is

2396
01:11:26,081 --> 01:11:28,984
nothing done. I that's just my

2397
01:11:28,984 --> 01:11:30,652
feeling. I don't think you will

2398
01:11:30,652 --> 01:11:34,389
get anything done, but you have

2399
01:11:34,389 --> 01:11:36,458
eight people on there. To me

2400
01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:38,560
you have one person per ward

2401
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,463
that's representing that ward.

2402
01:11:41,463 --> 01:11:43,665
So if it's Miss Cook on it, she

2403
01:11:43,665 --> 01:11:46,268
can relay it to Mr. Palmer.

2404
01:11:46,268 --> 01:11:48,036
Same way with wards one, two,

2405
01:11:48,036 --> 01:11:52,374
three and four and five. I

2406
01:11:52,374 --> 01:11:55,444
that's my my thought. And what

2407
01:11:55,444 --> 01:11:57,579
Mr. O'Keefe said is I'm the one

2408
01:11:57,579 --> 01:11:59,581
who's going to have to appoint

2409
01:11:59,581 --> 01:12:01,116
because it's in our charter

2410
01:12:01,116 --> 01:12:02,984
that I appoint to boards and

2411
01:12:02,984 --> 01:12:07,122
commissions and committees, and all that stuff.

2412
01:12:07,122 --> 01:12:11,794
So. So go ahead.

2413
01:12:11,794 --> 01:12:14,529
So I agree with you. I, I like

2414
01:12:14,529 --> 01:12:15,997
more of the agility you get

2415
01:12:15,997 --> 01:12:18,400
with five. The accountability

2416
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,936
is more concentrated. Uh, you

2417
01:12:20,936 --> 01:12:22,070
know, I've tried to go to

2418
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:23,138
dinner with eight people. It's

2419
01:12:23,138 --> 01:12:24,339
impossible to get everybody to

2420
01:12:24,339 --> 01:12:26,441
come together. So I completely

2421
01:12:26,441 --> 01:12:28,243
agree. And, you know, if we're

2422
01:12:28,243 --> 01:12:29,978
in that five range, the one per

2423
01:12:29,978 --> 01:12:31,313
ward, I think is the cleanest

2424
01:12:31,313 --> 01:12:33,648
way. So I think, uh, Councilman

2425
01:12:33,648 --> 01:12:35,150
Boyer, I know you're within

2426
01:12:35,150 --> 01:12:37,886
those discussions. Um, as long

2427
01:12:37,886 --> 01:12:39,187
as you have a consensus on

2428
01:12:39,187 --> 01:12:41,623
five, I would like to suggest

2429
01:12:41,623 --> 01:12:42,357
keeping it there.

2430
01:12:42,357 --> 01:12:44,192
That's. I felt the same. And

2431
01:12:44,192 --> 01:12:45,594
more people in the less we're

2432
01:12:45,594 --> 01:12:48,196
going to get done.

2433
01:12:48,196 --> 01:12:50,732
Okay. Mr. Wilcox.

2434
01:12:50,732 --> 01:12:52,601
So this is related. I sent an

2435
01:12:52,601 --> 01:12:54,169
email, um, last week, earlier

2436
01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:55,270
this week about planning and

2437
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:56,538
zoning, and especially for the

2438
01:12:56,538 --> 01:12:58,340
new council members, how we

2439
01:12:58,340 --> 01:12:59,207
would like to learn a little

2440
01:12:59,207 --> 01:13:00,108
more about that. I've talked to

2441
01:13:00,108 --> 01:13:02,677
a few of you guys, and this

2442
01:13:02,677 --> 01:13:03,912
ties into the apartment thing

2443
01:13:03,912 --> 01:13:05,480
in my the kind of where it

2444
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:07,249
started. I want to know, like

2445
01:13:07,249 --> 01:13:09,784
how properties are zoned

2446
01:13:09,784 --> 01:13:11,586
originally and then how they

2447
01:13:11,586 --> 01:13:13,455
potentially can be changed to a

2448
01:13:13,455 --> 01:13:15,290
different zoning code. I think

2449
01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:16,758
this is a good workshop item.

2450
01:13:16,758 --> 01:13:19,194
Maybe prior to this. Mr. Link,

2451
01:13:19,194 --> 01:13:20,295
if you don't mind, because I

2452
01:13:20,295 --> 01:13:22,631
think it ties in very closely

2453
01:13:22,631 --> 01:13:23,832
to what you're trying to

2454
01:13:23,832 --> 01:13:25,234
accomplish.

2455
01:13:25,234 --> 01:13:27,336
Sir. I mean, I don't mind if we

2456
01:13:27,336 --> 01:13:29,204
throw it on the workshop, but I

2457
01:13:29,204 --> 01:13:32,307
still think we'll move to get

2458
01:13:32,307 --> 01:13:33,642
this committee organized. I

2459
01:13:33,642 --> 01:13:34,743
imagine it'll take a couple of

2460
01:13:34,743 --> 01:13:37,813
weeks, but.

2461
01:13:37,813 --> 01:13:38,914
, Amanda.

2462
01:13:38,914 --> 01:13:40,015
I was just going to say

2463
01:13:40,015 --> 01:13:41,449
something just hit me for his

2464
01:13:41,449 --> 01:13:43,818
plan and zoning question. Isn't

2465
01:13:43,818 --> 01:13:47,422
there a workshop or a class

2466
01:13:47,422 --> 01:13:49,324
that you send? I don't know,

2467
01:13:49,324 --> 01:13:51,860
Mr. Woods. Uh, David, for

2468
01:13:51,860 --> 01:13:52,994
planning and zoning. There's

2469
01:13:52,994 --> 01:13:54,996
even a class that people that

2470
01:13:54,996 --> 01:13:56,164
are new on the planning and

2471
01:13:56,164 --> 01:13:58,667
zoning can take that possibly.

2472
01:13:58,667 --> 01:13:59,868
I mean, I would be interested

2473
01:13:59,868 --> 01:14:01,537
in doing it, too, you know.

2474
01:14:01,537 --> 01:14:03,071
Yeah, that just got noted that,

2475
01:14:03,071 --> 01:14:04,706
um, sole has a has a

2476
01:14:04,706 --> 01:14:06,575
certificate program for that. I

2477
01:14:06,575 --> 01:14:07,776
did send that out to the

2478
01:14:07,776 --> 01:14:09,344
commission. Uh, maybe just

2479
01:14:09,344 --> 01:14:11,680
Tracy did last week or so. I

2480
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,781
think we had some, some

2481
01:14:12,781 --> 01:14:16,718
interest. And I know, uh, Mr.

2482
01:14:16,718 --> 01:14:17,953
Wexler, did you go a couple

2483
01:14:17,953 --> 01:14:18,620
years ago?

2484
01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:19,821
I did, yeah, yeah, my first

2485
01:14:19,821 --> 01:14:21,056
year on or second year on

2486
01:14:21,056 --> 01:14:22,190
planning and zoning, I went,

2487
01:14:22,190 --> 01:14:25,493
yeah, it's super helpful if if

2488
01:14:25,493 --> 01:14:27,062
council is able to go or some

2489
01:14:27,062 --> 01:14:28,063
council members are able to go.

2490
01:14:28,063 --> 01:14:29,698
Yeah. I've highly suggested

2491
01:14:29,698 --> 01:14:35,070
it's it's very good. Yeah I.

2492
01:14:35,070 --> 01:14:36,705
All right. Let's get get back

2493
01:14:36,705 --> 01:14:39,774
on top before we get into other

2494
01:14:39,774 --> 01:14:42,811
things. So let's get the first

2495
01:14:42,811 --> 01:14:45,146
portion out of this. Done. So I

2496
01:14:45,146 --> 01:14:50,585
have a motion by Mr. Link to

2497
01:14:50,585 --> 01:14:53,388
correct me if I'm wrong here to

2498
01:14:53,388 --> 01:14:55,357
get a working group to work

2499
01:14:55,357 --> 01:15:00,762
with staff on the apartment

2500
01:15:00,762 --> 01:15:02,597
study that Mr. Link provided.

2501
01:15:02,597 --> 01:15:07,068
Is that good enough? You got

2502
01:15:07,068 --> 01:15:10,005
that, Katie. Okay. Do I have a

2503
01:15:10,005 --> 01:15:11,406
second?

2504
01:15:11,406 --> 01:15:12,874
second.

2505
01:15:12,874 --> 01:15:19,748
Mr. Bowyer questions? Mr.

2506
01:15:19,748 --> 01:15:20,482
Koskela.

2507
01:15:20,482 --> 01:15:22,117
Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I just

2508
01:15:22,117 --> 01:15:26,688
want to be clear and reiterate, reiterate that

2509
01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:30,525
before any funds are spent,

2510
01:15:30,525 --> 01:15:33,328
labor time included, it has to

2511
01:15:33,328 --> 01:15:36,097
come back to council for full

2512
01:15:36,097 --> 01:15:37,899
approval. Approval in the

2513
01:15:37,899 --> 01:15:38,467
normal.

2514
01:15:38,467 --> 01:15:40,268
Yeah. That that working group

2515
01:15:40,268 --> 01:15:42,737
cannot say we're going to spend

2516
01:15:42,737 --> 01:15:44,205
X amount of dollars. It's got

2517
01:15:44,205 --> 01:15:45,073
to be approved by the whole

2518
01:15:45,073 --> 01:15:45,607
council.

2519
01:15:45,607 --> 01:15:48,877
Understood. Thank you.

2520
01:15:48,877 --> 01:15:49,945
Michael.

2521
01:15:49,945 --> 01:15:51,646
To be clear, Mr. Costello,

2522
01:15:51,646 --> 01:15:52,881
you're not referring to staff

2523
01:15:52,881 --> 01:15:54,649
time as being part of the

2524
01:15:54,649 --> 01:15:57,919
committee. And assisting.

2525
01:15:57,919 --> 01:15:59,320
You're referring to any

2526
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,122
expenditure of funds beyond

2527
01:16:01,122 --> 01:16:07,596
that.

2528
01:16:07,596 --> 01:16:12,100
Um. How much of its staff time

2529
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:13,968
are we expecting for setting up

2530
01:16:13,968 --> 01:16:15,937
this committee and starting

2531
01:16:15,937 --> 01:16:18,039
this before any real work is

2532
01:16:18,039 --> 01:16:20,408
started? Uh, before we would

2533
01:16:20,408 --> 01:16:23,445
get to a a vote to approve a

2534
01:16:23,445 --> 01:16:24,212
budget.

2535
01:16:24,212 --> 01:16:26,247
I don't to me, I don't think

2536
01:16:26,247 --> 01:16:27,782
you can answer that question

2537
01:16:27,782 --> 01:16:30,151
until that working group gets

2538
01:16:30,151 --> 01:16:32,821
in and goes over that. What

2539
01:16:32,821 --> 01:16:36,925
staff is already provided and

2540
01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:41,096
go over all that. So to me, you

2541
01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:43,264
know, whenever they start this

2542
01:16:43,264 --> 01:16:45,133
working group, you know, they

2543
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:46,768
can come back during the

2544
01:16:46,768 --> 01:16:48,670
workshop or one of their ward

2545
01:16:48,670 --> 01:16:49,838
report and say, hey, this is

2546
01:16:49,838 --> 01:16:53,942
what we've found and keep the

2547
01:16:53,942 --> 01:16:57,312
rest of the council updated.

2548
01:16:57,312 --> 01:16:57,979
Okay?

2549
01:16:57,979 --> 01:16:59,414
Corey.

2550
01:16:59,414 --> 01:17:03,418
So when we when we went over

2551
01:17:03,418 --> 01:17:06,988
this moratorium and it did not

2552
01:17:06,988 --> 01:17:10,692
pass by half the council, that

2553
01:17:10,692 --> 01:17:12,026
half of the council that did

2554
01:17:12,026 --> 01:17:13,595
not pass this moratorium made

2555
01:17:13,595 --> 01:17:15,764
it very clear that we can do

2556
01:17:15,764 --> 01:17:17,799
these studies without the

2557
01:17:17,799 --> 01:17:20,235
moratorium. So now we're trying

2558
01:17:20,235 --> 01:17:22,137
to do the studies, and I just

2559
01:17:22,137 --> 01:17:25,006
want to make sure that we yes,

2560
01:17:25,006 --> 01:17:26,808
any expenditures need to come

2561
01:17:26,808 --> 01:17:28,042
to the council for approval.

2562
01:17:28,042 --> 01:17:29,444
But I don't think that that

2563
01:17:29,444 --> 01:17:32,280
needs to include a small amount

2564
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,883
of staff time, because that is

2565
01:17:34,883 --> 01:17:36,885
what was asked of us when this

2566
01:17:36,885 --> 01:17:38,720
moratorium failed was we do the

2567
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:39,888
study without it. We're trying

2568
01:17:39,888 --> 01:17:41,322
to let's not put more

2569
01:17:41,322 --> 01:17:42,557
limitations on it. This is a

2570
01:17:42,557 --> 01:17:43,458
little bit of a compromise

2571
01:17:43,458 --> 01:17:44,426
here. Okay.

2572
01:17:44,426 --> 01:17:49,097
Anybody else? Roll call.

2573
01:17:49,097 --> 01:17:51,600
Councilmember Palmer.

2574
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,468
Yes.

2575
01:17:53,468 --> 01:17:54,870
Councilmember Taylor.

2576
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:55,570
Yes.

2577
01:17:55,570 --> 01:17:57,773
Council member. Cook.

2578
01:17:57,773 --> 01:17:58,540
Yes.

2579
01:17:58,540 --> 01:18:00,275
Council member. Yates.

2580
01:18:00,275 --> 01:18:00,976
Yes.

2581
01:18:00,976 --> 01:18:03,545
Council member. Spencer. Yes.

2582
01:18:03,545 --> 01:18:06,014
Council member. Koskela.

2583
01:18:06,014 --> 01:18:07,149
Yes.

2584
01:18:07,149 --> 01:18:08,350
Council member. Link.

2585
01:18:08,350 --> 01:18:09,017
Yes.

2586
01:18:09,017 --> 01:18:10,919
Council member. Wilcox.

2587
01:18:10,919 --> 01:18:11,653
Yes.

2588
01:18:11,653 --> 01:18:13,588
Council member. Boyer.

2589
01:18:13,588 --> 01:18:14,289
Yes.

2590
01:18:14,289 --> 01:18:15,757
Council member. Wexler.

2591
01:18:15,757 --> 01:18:16,458
Yes.

2592
01:18:16,458 --> 01:18:22,230
All right. There's ten. So what

2593
01:18:22,230 --> 01:18:25,834
I need from Mr. Link and Mr.

2594
01:18:25,834 --> 01:18:31,973
Boyer by next. On the agenda.

2595
01:18:31,973 --> 01:18:34,475
Come out for the next meeting..

2596
01:18:34,475 --> 01:18:35,210
A week from.

2597
01:18:35,210 --> 01:18:38,112
One day a week from Monday. I

2598
01:18:38,112 --> 01:18:40,248
would like to have it probably

2599
01:18:40,248 --> 01:18:46,020
by next week. Of what, five?

2600
01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:47,255
Councilman is going to sit on

2601
01:18:47,255 --> 01:18:49,757
this working group. So we put

2602
01:18:49,757 --> 01:18:56,064
on the agenda to appoint the

2603
01:18:56,064 --> 01:18:58,700
five whatever five it is to

2604
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:00,735
this working group.

2605
01:19:00,735 --> 01:19:02,571
You got it.

2606
01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:08,309
For your All's approval. Okay.

2607
01:19:08,309 --> 01:19:20,588
Anything else? Any other items?

2608
01:19:20,588 --> 01:19:23,224
Seeing none, I got a motion to

2609
01:19:23,224 --> 01:19:26,027
go to closed session 610 0211.

2610
01:19:26,027 --> 01:19:27,428
Legal action. Cause of action

2611
01:19:27,428 --> 01:19:29,330
litigation, but involving

2612
01:19:29,330 --> 01:19:31,132
public, governmental body and

2613
01:19:31,132 --> 01:19:32,200
any confidential, privileged

2614
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:33,234
communication between the

2615
01:19:33,234 --> 01:19:35,203
public, governmental body or

2616
01:19:35,203 --> 01:19:36,437
its representative, its

2617
01:19:36,437 --> 01:19:39,841
attorneys. 610 0212 lease,

2618
01:19:39,841 --> 01:19:41,142
purchasing or sale of real

2619
01:19:41,142 --> 01:19:45,880
estate and. 610 02112 sealed

2620
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,215
bids. Related documents. Until

2621
01:19:47,215 --> 01:19:48,416
the bids are open and sealed,

2622
01:19:48,416 --> 01:19:49,984
proposals and related documents

2623
01:19:49,984 --> 01:19:51,653
or any documents related to the

2624
01:19:51,653 --> 01:19:53,021
negotiated contract until the

2625
01:19:53,021 --> 01:19:55,056
contract is executed or all

2626
01:19:55,056 --> 01:19:58,727
proposals are rejected.

2627
01:19:58,727 --> 01:20:00,128
So move to.

2628
01:20:00,128 --> 01:20:02,297
Costco.

2629
01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:04,866
Councilman Wexler, seconded by

2630
01:20:04,866 --> 01:20:06,367
Councilman Koskela roll call.

2631
01:20:06,367 --> 01:20:06,968
Katie.

2632
01:20:06,968 --> 01:20:08,770
Council member Spencer.

2633
01:20:08,770 --> 01:20:09,504
Yes.

2634
01:20:09,504 --> 01:20:11,439
Council member. Wilcox.

2635
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:12,207
Yes.

2636
01:20:12,207 --> 01:20:13,808
Council member. Cook.

2637
01:20:13,808 --> 01:20:14,442
Yes.

2638
01:20:14,442 --> 01:20:15,977
Council member. Koskela.

2639
01:20:15,977 --> 01:20:16,611
Yes.

2640
01:20:16,611 --> 01:20:18,880
Council member. Taylor. Yes.

2641
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,315
Council member. Boyer.

2642
01:20:20,315 --> 01:20:21,049
Yes.

2643
01:20:21,049 --> 01:20:22,484
Council member. Palmer.

2644
01:20:22,484 --> 01:20:23,184
Yes.

2645
01:20:23,184 --> 01:20:24,986
Council member. Wexler.

2646
01:20:24,986 --> 01:20:26,054
Yes.

2647
01:20:26,054 --> 01:20:27,222
Council Member Link.

2648
01:20:27,222 --> 01:20:27,856
Yes.

2649
01:20:27,856 --> 01:20:29,024
Council member. Yates.

2650
01:20:29,024 --> 01:20:30,491
Yes. All right. We'll be in the

2651
01:20:30,491 --> 01:21:25,747
community room at 655.

2652
01:21:25,747 --> 01:21:27,715
Call to order the September

2653
01:21:27,715 --> 01:21:29,884
10th, 2026 O'Fallon City

2654
01:21:29,884 --> 01:21:31,452
Council meeting to order roll

2655
01:21:31,452 --> 01:21:32,854
call. Bess. Mayor. Hennessey

2656
01:21:32,854 --> 01:21:33,421
present.

2657
01:21:33,421 --> 01:21:34,922
Council member. Wexler present.

2658
01:21:34,922 --> 01:21:36,124
Council member. Wilcox.

2659
01:21:36,124 --> 01:21:37,659
Present. Council member. Boyer.

2660
01:21:37,659 --> 01:21:38,126
Present.

2661
01:21:38,126 --> 01:21:39,427
Council member. Yates.

2662
01:21:39,427 --> 01:21:40,028
Present.

2663
01:21:40,028 --> 01:21:41,295
Council member. Casella.

2664
01:21:41,295 --> 01:21:43,064
Present. Council member. Lynch.

2665
01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:44,532
Present. Council member.

2666
01:21:44,532 --> 01:21:45,900
Spencer present. Council

2667
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:47,235
member. Taylor. Present.

2668
01:21:47,235 --> 01:21:48,669
Council member. Cooke. Present.

2669
01:21:48,669 --> 01:21:49,204
Council member.

2670
01:21:49,204 --> 01:21:53,541
Palmer present. Please stand if

2671
01:21:53,541 --> 01:21:55,843
able. Invitation by police

2672
01:21:55,843 --> 01:21:57,512
chaplain Brandon Easterling,

2673
01:21:57,512 --> 01:21:58,346
followed by Pledge of

2674
01:21:58,346 --> 01:21:59,313
Allegiance led by Council

2675
01:21:59,313 --> 01:22:01,449
member Spencer.

2676
01:22:01,449 --> 01:22:03,251
Would you pray with me? Our

2677
01:22:03,251 --> 01:22:04,318
Heavenly Father, we thank you

2678
01:22:04,318 --> 01:22:05,386
for this night. We thank you

2679
01:22:05,386 --> 01:22:07,955
for the chance to gather and do

2680
01:22:07,955 --> 01:22:09,323
various matters related to our

2681
01:22:09,323 --> 01:22:10,825
city, and just thankful for the

2682
01:22:10,825 --> 01:22:12,460
leadership we have represented

2683
01:22:12,460 --> 01:22:13,795
in this room. We just ask that

2684
01:22:13,795 --> 01:22:15,696
you bless them, keep them, and

2685
01:22:15,696 --> 01:22:16,864
give us wisdom and discernment

2686
01:22:16,864 --> 01:22:18,299
tonight as we make decisions.

2687
01:22:18,299 --> 01:22:24,472
In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

2688
01:22:24,472 --> 01:22:26,074
Pledge allegiance to the flag

2689
01:22:26,074 --> 01:22:28,376
of the United States of America

2690
01:22:28,376 --> 01:22:30,344
and to the Republic for which

2691
01:22:30,344 --> 01:22:32,747
it stands. One nation under

2692
01:22:32,747 --> 01:22:35,683
God, indivisible, with liberty

2693
01:22:35,683 --> 01:22:44,292
and justice for all. All right,

2694
01:22:44,292 --> 01:22:45,359
folks, you have an agenda in

2695
01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:47,128
front of what's a pleasure?

2696
01:22:47,128 --> 01:22:49,363
Motion to approve. Costello

2697
01:22:49,363 --> 01:22:50,331
second, Wexler.

2698
01:22:50,331 --> 01:22:51,999
Moves by Councilman Costello.

2699
01:22:51,999 --> 01:22:53,534
Second by Councilman Wexler.

2700
01:22:53,534 --> 01:22:55,837
Questions or comments? All in

2701
01:22:55,837 --> 01:22:57,605
favor? All right. Any opposed?

2702
01:22:57,605 --> 01:22:59,941
Motion passes. Uh, just a

2703
01:22:59,941 --> 01:23:01,576
couple things on the presiding

2704
01:23:01,576 --> 01:23:03,811
officers report. Uh, folks, I

2705
01:23:03,811 --> 01:23:05,179
believe we have a video back

2706
01:23:05,179 --> 01:23:06,314
there. So if you want to go

2707
01:23:06,314 --> 01:23:26,734
ahead and play it.

2708
01:23:26,734 --> 01:23:28,736
For my generation, those of us

2709
01:23:28,736 --> 01:23:30,238
in high school and college, we

2710
01:23:30,238 --> 01:23:31,405
don't know. A world before nine

2711
01:23:31,405 --> 01:23:33,007
over 11, but we can definitely

2712
01:23:33,007 --> 01:23:34,308
understand the impact it has

2713
01:23:34,308 --> 01:23:35,743
had on our nation.

2714
01:23:35,743 --> 01:23:37,245
Can't overlook that. The men

2715
01:23:37,245 --> 01:23:39,046
and women who ran towards that

2716
01:23:39,046 --> 01:23:40,681
danger, and we know someday we

2717
01:23:40,681 --> 01:23:41,649
might be put in that position

2718
01:23:41,649 --> 01:23:43,150
where we have to do it, and to

2719
01:23:43,150 --> 01:23:44,719
actually watch them on live TV.

2720
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,487
Doing it just it gives you a

2721
01:23:46,487 --> 01:23:48,556
sense of, you know, brotherhood

2722
01:23:48,556 --> 01:23:50,358
and sisterhood and you want to

2723
01:23:50,358 --> 01:23:51,425
be there with them, but you

2724
01:23:51,425 --> 01:23:53,361
can't. It's important that we.

2725
01:23:53,361 --> 01:23:55,263
Do what, what O'Fallon does.

2726
01:23:55,263 --> 01:23:58,232
And that is on those days we

2727
01:23:58,232 --> 01:23:59,700
have ceremonies. We invite

2728
01:23:59,700 --> 01:24:02,036
people to come together and

2729
01:24:02,036 --> 01:24:04,772
fellowship to to remember and

2730
01:24:04,772 --> 01:24:06,274
to hopefully never forget.

2731
01:24:06,274 --> 01:24:07,508
Put us, you know, hand in hand

2732
01:24:07,508 --> 01:24:11,412
with our neighbor, you know, arm around shoulders

2733
01:24:11,412 --> 01:24:14,382
and, um, so from that

2734
01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:15,883
perspective, it's just hugely

2735
01:24:15,883 --> 01:24:17,118
important, especially at this

2736
01:24:17,118 --> 01:24:17,652
time.

2737
01:24:17,652 --> 01:24:19,987
It's great that they can still

2738
01:24:19,987 --> 01:24:23,591
come together and remember

2739
01:24:23,591 --> 01:24:26,827
those sacrifices. Um, both from

2740
01:24:26,827 --> 01:24:27,929
that first responder

2741
01:24:27,929 --> 01:24:30,131
standpoint, but also the

2742
01:24:30,131 --> 01:24:30,932
military.

2743
01:24:30,932 --> 01:24:33,768
It puts a tangibility to the

2744
01:24:33,768 --> 01:24:36,070
event that you can't get off of

2745
01:24:36,070 --> 01:24:37,338
the page of a textbook.

2746
01:24:37,338 --> 01:24:38,439
You can't get it in a textbook.

2747
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:39,807
To me, I.

2748
01:24:39,807 --> 01:24:41,576
What moves me the most about

2749
01:24:41,576 --> 01:24:43,444
the nine over 11 ceremony is

2750
01:24:43,444 --> 01:24:45,780
listening to those, the Chiefs

2751
01:24:45,780 --> 01:24:47,448
and everybody else. Recap of

2752
01:24:47,448 --> 01:24:49,917
what happened locally and

2753
01:24:49,917 --> 01:24:50,718
everything else.

2754
01:24:50,718 --> 01:24:52,787
And that's really what hits

2755
01:24:52,787 --> 01:24:53,788
home for people.

2756
01:24:53,788 --> 01:24:55,256
Come out to the Justice Center

2757
01:24:55,256 --> 01:24:56,724
on nine over 11. You'll get to

2758
01:24:56,724 --> 01:24:59,994
hear all the great stories.

2759
01:24:59,994 --> 01:25:01,229
You know, I think the young

2760
01:25:01,229 --> 01:25:03,431
people that come here are moved

2761
01:25:03,431 --> 01:25:05,733
by it, and hopefully they learn

2762
01:25:05,733 --> 01:25:07,068
something from it. Anytime that

2763
01:25:07,068 --> 01:25:09,704
you can make it, make a

2764
01:25:09,704 --> 01:25:11,572
connection with a kid, that's

2765
01:25:11,572 --> 01:25:15,476
when they learned. And so we're always in the business of

2766
01:25:15,476 --> 01:25:17,245
education, trying to help kids

2767
01:25:17,245 --> 01:25:19,079
find connections to what we're

2768
01:25:19,079 --> 01:25:21,148
trying to teach them. And when

2769
01:25:21,148 --> 01:25:23,050
we when kids come out to a

2770
01:25:23,050 --> 01:25:25,453
remembrance ceremony, that's

2771
01:25:25,453 --> 01:25:26,754
when they make the connection.

2772
01:25:26,754 --> 01:25:29,590
Listen to what somebody is

2773
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:31,826
telling you about what they

2774
01:25:31,826 --> 01:25:33,294
felt and what they experienced.

2775
01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:35,863
And then for a minute, put

2776
01:25:35,863 --> 01:25:38,366
yourself in their shoes and you

2777
01:25:38,366 --> 01:25:43,170
will understand why we need to

2778
01:25:43,170 --> 01:25:45,339
protect this country.

2779
01:25:45,339 --> 01:25:48,175
We can't heal, but we can't

2780
01:25:48,175 --> 01:25:51,112
ever forget. I think it's so

2781
01:25:51,112 --> 01:25:53,581
important we keep saying that.

2782
01:25:53,581 --> 01:25:55,750
Over and over.

2783
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:57,752
Join us for Oberlin's annual

2784
01:25:57,752 --> 01:25:59,887
Patriot Day ceremony and 9/11

2785
01:25:59,887 --> 01:26:02,290
Remembrance Walk on Friday,

2786
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:03,958
September 11th at the O'Fallon

2787
01:26:03,958 --> 01:26:05,860
Justice Center. The Patriot Day

2788
01:26:05,860 --> 01:26:08,763
ceremony will take place from

2789
01:26:08,763 --> 01:26:10,998
830 to 9 a.m., honoring the

2790
01:26:10,998 --> 01:26:12,533
lives lost and the heroes who

2791
01:26:12,533 --> 01:26:13,801
responded with courage.

2792
01:26:13,801 --> 01:26:14,769
Immediately following the

2793
01:26:14,769 --> 01:26:16,437
ceremony, a remembrance Walk

2794
01:26:16,437 --> 01:26:18,306
will begin at 9 a.m., offering

2795
01:26:18,306 --> 01:26:19,840
a reflective journey that pays

2796
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,809
tribute to the sacrifices made,

2797
01:26:21,809 --> 01:26:23,277
honors those who continue to

2798
01:26:23,277 --> 01:26:25,146
inspire us, and ends in a

2799
01:26:25,146 --> 01:26:37,158
moving display of patriotism.

2800
01:26:37,158 --> 01:26:38,626
Great jobs by our

2801
01:26:38,626 --> 01:26:40,361
communications department. And

2802
01:26:40,361 --> 01:26:42,663
just as a reminder, didn't

2803
01:26:42,663 --> 01:26:45,132
catch it. Uh, the nine over 11

2804
01:26:45,132 --> 01:26:46,467
ceremony will be tomorrow

2805
01:26:46,467 --> 01:26:49,070
morning at 830 at the Justice

2806
01:26:49,070 --> 01:26:51,739
Center. Uh, followed by the one

2807
01:26:51,739 --> 01:26:54,809
mile walk. And we will hear

2808
01:26:54,809 --> 01:26:57,878
from a police officer. We'll

2809
01:26:57,878 --> 01:27:00,781
hear from a retired fire chief,

2810
01:27:00,781 --> 01:27:04,885
and we will hear from, uh, a a

2811
01:27:04,885 --> 01:27:08,155
senior in high school. How it

2812
01:27:08,155 --> 01:27:12,827
affects their generation. So,

2813
01:27:12,827 --> 01:27:14,995
uh, there's a few other things

2814
01:27:14,995 --> 01:27:17,565
that be there. So if you can

2815
01:27:17,565 --> 01:27:19,300
make it to the Justice Center

2816
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:21,836
tomorrow morning at 830, uh,

2817
01:27:21,836 --> 01:27:24,372
we'd love to have you out there.

2818
01:27:24,372 --> 01:27:26,140
So that brings us to citizens

2819
01:27:26,140 --> 01:27:39,787
comments, Mr. Danoff.

2820
01:27:39,787 --> 01:27:41,655
Thank you very much. Members of

2821
01:27:41,655 --> 01:27:43,157
council, first of all, is a

2822
01:27:43,157 --> 01:27:46,827
reconsideration of Bill 7879.

2823
01:27:46,827 --> 01:27:48,396
Elected officials need to have

2824
01:27:48,396 --> 01:27:50,231
a backbone. A backbone is

2825
01:27:50,231 --> 01:27:51,398
needed when you're elected to

2826
01:27:51,398 --> 01:27:53,868
public office. Was this

2827
01:27:53,868 --> 01:27:55,603
reconsideration forced or

2828
01:27:55,603 --> 01:27:57,705
mandated by Mayor Hennessy for

2829
01:27:57,705 --> 01:27:59,507
his developer buddy? There need

2830
01:27:59,507 --> 01:28:00,808
to be protections and

2831
01:28:00,808 --> 01:28:02,510
guarantees for all senior

2832
01:28:02,510 --> 01:28:04,678
citizens. Assurances to the

2833
01:28:04,678 --> 01:28:06,947
community about maintenance,

2834
01:28:06,947 --> 01:28:08,649
elevators, air conditioning,

2835
01:28:08,649 --> 01:28:10,584
barriers not sold for

2836
01:28:10,584 --> 01:28:11,919
apartments or HUD. Section

2837
01:28:11,919 --> 01:28:13,387
eight. In 15 years, when we

2838
01:28:13,387 --> 01:28:14,889
don't need senior housing

2839
01:28:14,889 --> 01:28:16,624
because of the population

2840
01:28:16,624 --> 01:28:18,592
decrease, we need to get this

2841
01:28:18,592 --> 01:28:19,827
project right for the

2842
01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:21,495
neighborhood. I ask that you

2843
01:28:21,495 --> 01:28:22,596
send this bill back to the

2844
01:28:22,596 --> 01:28:24,031
Planning and Zoning Commission.

2845
01:28:24,031 --> 01:28:25,199
I will be opposing all

2846
01:28:25,199 --> 01:28:26,734
applications for any state tax

2847
01:28:26,734 --> 01:28:28,669
credits, any funding from the

2848
01:28:28,669 --> 01:28:30,237
state, or reduce interest

2849
01:28:30,237 --> 01:28:33,707
rates. Bill 7989 resident

2850
01:28:33,707 --> 01:28:35,242
testimony on Public Citizen

2851
01:28:35,242 --> 01:28:37,278
comments. Let's get her done

2852
01:28:37,278 --> 01:28:38,913
and fully restored. Speaking on

2853
01:28:38,913 --> 01:28:40,781
any issue or topic and a five

2854
01:28:40,781 --> 01:28:42,550
minute time limit. If not,

2855
01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:44,285
there will be a city initiative.

2856
01:28:44,285 --> 01:28:46,253
Petition the place a question

2857
01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:47,955
and rules under the city

2858
01:28:47,955 --> 01:28:49,657
election ballot. Let's be

2859
01:28:49,657 --> 01:28:50,758
honest and truthful to the

2860
01:28:50,758 --> 01:28:52,560
public and tell the public why

2861
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,095
you change public comments. The

2862
01:28:55,095 --> 01:28:57,198
former council did an attempt

2863
01:28:57,198 --> 01:28:59,266
in a spiteful, mean and hateful

2864
01:28:59,266 --> 01:29:01,402
attempt to silence and shut me

2865
01:29:01,402 --> 01:29:03,337
up personally. It was over a

2866
01:29:03,337 --> 01:29:05,172
terrible police chief that I

2867
01:29:05,172 --> 01:29:07,508
sent packing back to Texas. It

2868
01:29:07,508 --> 01:29:09,477
has not worked and will never

2869
01:29:09,477 --> 01:29:11,412
work. The city council can

2870
01:29:11,412 --> 01:29:12,947
never act like a private

2871
01:29:12,947 --> 01:29:14,415
country club folk. And that's

2872
01:29:14,415 --> 01:29:15,583
the exact comment. Mr.

2873
01:29:15,583 --> 01:29:17,418
Hennessey, I speak the truth

2874
01:29:17,418 --> 01:29:18,853
with real facts and

2875
01:29:18,853 --> 01:29:20,688
information. Your current rules

2876
01:29:20,688 --> 01:29:22,089
and city ordinance is

2877
01:29:22,089 --> 01:29:24,291
unconstitutional and invalid. I

2878
01:29:24,291 --> 01:29:25,693
just been too lazy to take it

2879
01:29:25,693 --> 01:29:27,194
to a circuit court judge and

2880
01:29:27,194 --> 01:29:30,731
get it invalidated. Bill 7890

2881
01:29:30,731 --> 01:29:32,399
reading through two readings is

2882
01:29:32,399 --> 01:29:33,868
in direct violation of our home

2883
01:29:33,868 --> 01:29:35,769
rule City charter. By mandating

2884
01:29:35,769 --> 01:29:37,204
time for citizens response,

2885
01:29:37,204 --> 01:29:39,106
comment and testimony. This is

2886
01:29:39,106 --> 01:29:40,374
for a developer from Cape

2887
01:29:40,374 --> 01:29:43,344
Girardeau who is worth over

2888
01:29:43,344 --> 01:29:47,047
$150 million in assets, and at

2889
01:29:47,047 --> 01:29:48,816
stake is over $100 million in

2890
01:29:48,816 --> 01:29:50,084
tax credits and corporate

2891
01:29:50,084 --> 01:29:52,553
welfare giveaways. Resolution A

2892
01:29:52,553 --> 01:29:56,323
is $13,900 times four for

2893
01:29:56,323 --> 01:29:59,259
$55,000. Is it an invasion of

2894
01:29:59,259 --> 01:30:00,995
citizen privacy? Return on

2895
01:30:00,995 --> 01:30:02,830
investment, or really getting

2896
01:30:02,830 --> 01:30:04,698
our use out of this software?

2897
01:30:04,698 --> 01:30:06,634
Resolution B Daines Park

2898
01:30:06,634 --> 01:30:07,535
Playground Equipment

2899
01:30:07,535 --> 01:30:10,271
Replacement $200,000 I thought

2900
01:30:10,271 --> 01:30:12,106
we just recently replaced this

2901
01:30:12,106 --> 01:30:14,274
equipment. Resolution C at

2902
01:30:14,274 --> 01:30:15,709
Green Drive. Reconstruction and

2903
01:30:15,709 --> 01:30:17,878
sidewalks. What are total waste

2904
01:30:17,878 --> 01:30:21,949
of $1.5 million? Federal,

2905
01:30:21,949 --> 01:30:24,018
county, city. And it's a pork

2906
01:30:24,018 --> 01:30:25,853
barrel project. In my opinion.

2907
01:30:25,853 --> 01:30:27,054
Resolution D you.

2908
01:30:27,054 --> 01:30:28,089
Have 50s.

2909
01:30:28,089 --> 01:30:29,890
Sanitary district problems with

2910
01:30:29,890 --> 01:30:31,492
the bid and contract resolution

2911
01:30:31,492 --> 01:30:32,760
E honor guard uniform

2912
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,995
replacement 25,000. How could

2913
01:30:34,995 --> 01:30:36,096
they be worn out in eight

2914
01:30:36,096 --> 01:30:39,366
years? Resolution F $23,000 in

2915
01:30:39,366 --> 01:30:41,135
chiller repairs on a five year

2916
01:30:41,135 --> 01:30:42,336
old $30 million.

2917
01:30:42,336 --> 01:30:43,137
Police building off.

2918
01:30:43,137 --> 01:30:44,839
We need off contractors.

2919
01:30:44,839 --> 01:30:46,106
Counting off. Your time is up,

2920
01:30:46,106 --> 01:30:46,340
sir.

2921
01:30:46,340 --> 01:30:49,510
Thank you.

2922
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:53,881
Our next speaker is Patty

2923
01:30:53,881 --> 01:30:56,383
Riney. I hope I said that

2924
01:30:56,383 --> 01:31:02,823
correct.

2925
01:31:02,823 --> 01:31:05,426
Good evening. Thank you. My

2926
01:31:05,426 --> 01:31:08,562
name is Patty Riney and I am a

2927
01:31:08,562 --> 01:31:10,130
regional manager for Pioneer

2928
01:31:10,130 --> 01:31:12,232
Property Management, Inc. I've

2929
01:31:12,232 --> 01:31:13,734
been working with Phoenix Real

2930
01:31:13,734 --> 01:31:16,904
Estate for the past 15 years,

2931
01:31:16,904 --> 01:31:19,340
managing the daily operations

2932
01:31:19,340 --> 01:31:20,607
of the tech properties that

2933
01:31:20,607 --> 01:31:22,643
they've developed. I have a

2934
01:31:22,643 --> 01:31:25,646
firsthand experience with the

2935
01:31:25,646 --> 01:31:27,781
benefits of these large tech

2936
01:31:27,781 --> 01:31:30,951
properties, and I am here to

2937
01:31:30,951 --> 01:31:32,953
advocate for the village at

2938
01:31:32,953 --> 01:31:35,623
Hillman Farm and ask you to

2939
01:31:35,623 --> 01:31:37,591
reconsider your decision on

2940
01:31:37,591 --> 01:31:41,228
this property. Um, I, in my

2941
01:31:41,228 --> 01:31:44,398
daily work, I see firsthand the

2942
01:31:44,398 --> 01:31:46,066
strong need for affordable

2943
01:31:46,066 --> 01:31:50,404
housing and, better options for

2944
01:31:50,404 --> 01:31:52,873
seniors. And in my line of

2945
01:31:52,873 --> 01:31:56,977
work, I. I see and hear from

2946
01:31:56,977 --> 01:32:00,347
our clients on a daily basis on

2947
01:32:00,347 --> 01:32:02,616
what their struggles are, and

2948
01:32:02,616 --> 01:32:04,218
affordable housing is at the

2949
01:32:04,218 --> 01:32:05,986
top of their list. Um, I

2950
01:32:05,986 --> 01:32:07,221
appreciate the time that you

2951
01:32:07,221 --> 01:32:09,490
gave me, and I hope that you

2952
01:32:09,490 --> 01:32:10,358
reconsider.

2953
01:32:10,358 --> 01:32:13,060
Thank you ma'am. Our next

2954
01:32:13,060 --> 01:32:29,610
speaker is Dan Bernard Barnard.

2955
01:32:29,610 --> 01:32:31,445
Thank you. I'm Dan Barnard with

2956
01:32:31,445 --> 01:32:33,113
Phoenix Real Estate Services.

2957
01:32:33,113 --> 01:32:34,682
Do I need to get my address,

2958
01:32:34,682 --> 01:32:37,584
please? Uh, 2800 West Clay

2959
01:32:37,584 --> 01:32:38,952
Valley Drive, Saint Charles,

2960
01:32:38,952 --> 01:32:42,856
Missouri, 63301. Okay. Thank

2961
01:32:42,856 --> 01:32:43,991
you very much for the

2962
01:32:43,991 --> 01:32:45,492
reconsideration. It's really

2963
01:32:45,492 --> 01:32:47,327
important. Uh, I want you to

2964
01:32:47,327 --> 01:32:49,029
know that Phoenix Real Estate

2965
01:32:49,029 --> 01:32:50,898
Services, as a developer for

2966
01:32:50,898 --> 01:32:52,566
tax credit properties, has been

2967
01:32:52,566 --> 01:32:54,868
in business for over 15 years.

2968
01:32:54,868 --> 01:32:56,603
We've been developing these

2969
01:32:56,603 --> 01:32:58,472
kind of apartments for low

2970
01:32:58,472 --> 01:33:01,041
income seniors for that time.

2971
01:33:01,041 --> 01:33:03,310
Uh, if this is approved,

2972
01:33:03,310 --> 01:33:06,380
village at Hillman Farms would

2973
01:33:06,380 --> 01:33:08,682
be our 10th development

2974
01:33:08,682 --> 01:33:11,418
altogether. And it would be,

2975
01:33:11,418 --> 01:33:12,486
uh, somewhere in the

2976
01:33:12,486 --> 01:33:14,321
neighborhood of 600 apartment

2977
01:33:14,321 --> 01:33:16,490
units, almost all of them for

2978
01:33:16,490 --> 01:33:20,027
low income seniors. Um, the

2979
01:33:20,027 --> 01:33:22,029
social media comments that have

2980
01:33:22,029 --> 01:33:24,031
come from the denial a couple

2981
01:33:24,031 --> 01:33:26,166
of weeks ago have been, uh,

2982
01:33:26,166 --> 01:33:28,736
appears to me tremendously in

2983
01:33:28,736 --> 01:33:30,037
favor of the affordable

2984
01:33:30,037 --> 01:33:35,042
housing. The few 10 to 15%

2985
01:33:35,042 --> 01:33:36,944
negative comments, uh, seem to

2986
01:33:36,944 --> 01:33:38,712
come from folks that don't know

2987
01:33:38,712 --> 01:33:41,982
very much about the program and

2988
01:33:41,982 --> 01:33:43,417
the obligations of the

2989
01:33:43,417 --> 01:33:48,155
developer. Um, and, uh, there's

2990
01:33:48,155 --> 01:33:49,957
just a lot of interest in this,

2991
01:33:49,957 --> 01:33:52,126
and there's a tremendous need,

2992
01:33:52,126 --> 01:33:54,962
um, for this kind of

2993
01:33:54,962 --> 01:33:57,164
development. Our waiting list

2994
01:33:57,164 --> 01:33:58,432
at Queen's Brook and Saint

2995
01:33:58,432 --> 01:34:01,902
Peter's, we have over 200

2996
01:34:01,902 --> 01:34:03,904
people on our waiting list. And

2997
01:34:03,904 --> 01:34:05,539
the market study that was done

2998
01:34:05,539 --> 01:34:07,908
for, uh, village at Hillman

2999
01:34:07,908 --> 01:34:10,110
Farms shows that all of the

3000
01:34:10,110 --> 01:34:12,579
O'Fallon, um, developments that

3001
01:34:12,579 --> 01:34:14,381
have previously been put

3002
01:34:14,381 --> 01:34:16,383
together, uh, have waiting

3003
01:34:16,383 --> 01:34:19,787
lists of 2 to 3 years to get

3004
01:34:19,787 --> 01:34:22,322
into those, those kind of

3005
01:34:22,322 --> 01:34:27,795
apartments. We looked

3006
01:34:27,795 --> 01:34:29,263
throughout say we like to build

3007
01:34:29,263 --> 01:34:31,331
in Saint Charles County. It's a

3008
01:34:31,331 --> 01:34:33,300
great place, good location.

3009
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:35,202
We've got three developments in

3010
01:34:35,202 --> 01:34:37,805
Saint Charles. We have two in

3011
01:34:37,805 --> 01:34:39,840
Wentzville. We have two in

3012
01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,041
Saint Peter's. This would be

3013
01:34:41,041 --> 01:34:42,910
our first in O'Fallon, but

3014
01:34:42,910 --> 01:34:44,945
Saint Charles County altogether

3015
01:34:44,945 --> 01:34:46,814
and the municipalities in it

3016
01:34:46,814 --> 01:34:48,415
are where we'd like to be. Uh,

3017
01:34:48,415 --> 01:34:50,517
it's a low crime rate. Uh, we

3018
01:34:50,517 --> 01:34:53,287
work with solid core of

3019
01:34:53,287 --> 01:34:55,222
subcontractors and suppliers,

3020
01:34:55,222 --> 01:34:57,191
many of whom are. Most of them

3021
01:34:57,191 --> 01:34:58,592
are in Saint Charles County.

3022
01:34:58,592 --> 01:35:01,195
Some are in O'Fallon. We we

3023
01:35:01,195 --> 01:35:03,163
looked all over the place. This

3024
01:35:03,163 --> 01:35:04,765
was our best site that we could

3025
01:35:04,765 --> 01:35:07,835
find. Uh, there are a couple of

3026
01:35:07,835 --> 01:35:09,837
our three properties in

3027
01:35:09,837 --> 01:35:11,672
O'Fallon. We looked at those.

3028
01:35:11,672 --> 01:35:13,207
They're not on the market. They

3029
01:35:13,207 --> 01:35:14,942
don't meet the needs of our

3030
01:35:14,942 --> 01:35:16,877
people, our residents and so

3031
01:35:16,877 --> 01:35:19,379
forth. And, um, that's why we

3032
01:35:19,379 --> 01:35:22,082
wound up, uh, going to the

3033
01:35:22,082 --> 01:35:23,284
Mexico Road location.

3034
01:35:23,284 --> 01:35:25,319
You have 15 seconds.

3035
01:35:25,319 --> 01:35:26,954
Thank you. The site's been

3036
01:35:26,954 --> 01:35:29,056
vacant for 20 years. Not likely

3037
01:35:29,056 --> 01:35:31,425
to be used for any sort of

3038
01:35:31,425 --> 01:35:34,661
retail. And the traffic impact

3039
01:35:34,661 --> 01:35:37,464
is for our projects is really

3040
01:35:37,464 --> 01:35:38,232
low.

3041
01:35:38,232 --> 01:35:38,632
Okay.

3042
01:35:38,632 --> 01:35:40,034
Thank you for your time.

3043
01:35:40,034 --> 01:35:41,501
Sir.

3044
01:35:41,501 --> 01:35:43,670
All right. Brings this to World

3045
01:35:43,670 --> 01:35:47,608
Reports, Ward one.

3046
01:35:47,608 --> 01:35:48,309
I just.

3047
01:35:48,309 --> 01:35:49,576
Wanted to remind everybody

3048
01:35:49,576 --> 01:35:50,911
again about the nine over 11

3049
01:35:50,911 --> 01:35:52,579
ceremony and the walk tomorrow.

3050
01:35:52,579 --> 01:35:53,747
And then our Rail district

3051
01:35:53,747 --> 01:35:55,616
festival is this Saturday. So

3052
01:35:55,616 --> 01:35:56,650
lots of stuff going on in

3053
01:35:56,650 --> 01:35:57,184
O'Fallon.

3054
01:35:57,184 --> 01:35:57,918
Thank you.

3055
01:35:57,918 --> 01:36:00,687
Real district from 12 to 6 at

3056
01:36:00,687 --> 01:36:03,724
Civic Park. Mr. Wechsler.

3057
01:36:03,724 --> 01:36:05,626
Thank you. Mayor Scott. You

3058
01:36:05,626 --> 01:36:06,727
stole what I was going to talk

3059
01:36:06,727 --> 01:36:08,528
about. So I will talk about the

3060
01:36:08,528 --> 01:36:11,064
other, uh, big thing happening

3061
01:36:11,064 --> 01:36:12,499
in Ward one this weekend, which

3062
01:36:12,499 --> 01:36:14,268
is tacos and tequila on

3063
01:36:14,268 --> 01:36:16,837
Saturday. Um, it's probably

3064
01:36:16,837 --> 01:36:18,505
going to be loud. We're

3065
01:36:18,505 --> 01:36:19,539
probably gonna hear about it

3066
01:36:19,539 --> 01:36:21,508
if, uh, if you have questions,

3067
01:36:21,508 --> 01:36:23,644
call Scott or call the police

3068
01:36:23,644 --> 01:36:25,445
department. There you go.

3069
01:36:25,445 --> 01:36:26,847
That's what I got.

3070
01:36:26,847 --> 01:36:30,818
Okay, we're two.

3071
01:36:30,818 --> 01:36:33,820
Thank you. Mayor. Um, there's

3072
01:36:33,820 --> 01:36:35,222
also a blood drive coming up

3073
01:36:35,222 --> 01:36:36,990
this week at the Justice

3074
01:36:36,990 --> 01:36:39,359
Center, which is, um, later

3075
01:36:39,359 --> 01:36:41,561
this week. And then Saturday is

3076
01:36:41,561 --> 01:36:42,997
the. And Debbie, I'm going to

3077
01:36:42,997 --> 01:36:44,564
beat you to it. The pool.

3078
01:36:44,564 --> 01:36:48,101
Pause. Dog swim at Civic Park.

3079
01:36:48,101 --> 01:36:50,304
Uh, and then most importantly,

3080
01:36:50,304 --> 01:36:51,872
it was my anniversary this

3081
01:36:51,872 --> 01:36:55,008
week, so I have to give props

3082
01:36:55,008 --> 01:36:58,913
to my wife on that.

3083
01:36:58,913 --> 01:36:59,613
Brian.

3084
01:36:59,613 --> 01:37:01,214
Awesome. Uh, usually we're up

3085
01:37:01,214 --> 01:37:02,416
here talking about how bad the

3086
01:37:02,416 --> 01:37:03,884
roads are. This time I get to

3087
01:37:03,884 --> 01:37:05,886
say how good they are. Uh, Ward

3088
01:37:05,886 --> 01:37:09,723
two, we got a lot of our slab replacements, and I've

3089
01:37:09,723 --> 01:37:11,525
received a lot of kudos off of

3090
01:37:11,525 --> 01:37:14,561
that, so. Yay! This is when the

3091
01:37:14,561 --> 01:37:16,063
roads get repaired. People are

3092
01:37:16,063 --> 01:37:17,998
happy, so that's great. Thank

3093
01:37:17,998 --> 01:37:19,033
you.

3094
01:37:19,033 --> 01:37:21,201
Ward three.

3095
01:37:21,201 --> 01:37:23,036
Thank you. Mayor. Well,

3096
01:37:23,036 --> 01:37:24,237
Councilman Boyer, that's great

3097
01:37:24,237 --> 01:37:25,138
news because that means our

3098
01:37:25,138 --> 01:37:27,341
slabs are next year. And so

3099
01:37:27,341 --> 01:37:28,442
looking forward to that.

3100
01:37:28,442 --> 01:37:29,909
Praise. Um, I want to share a

3101
01:37:29,909 --> 01:37:30,977
couple things. So for those of

3102
01:37:30,977 --> 01:37:31,912
you that don't know, I'm the

3103
01:37:31,912 --> 01:37:33,847
council liaison to the Historic

3104
01:37:33,847 --> 01:37:35,716
Preservation Commission. Uh, it

3105
01:37:35,716 --> 01:37:36,917
feels like it's certainly been

3106
01:37:36,917 --> 01:37:38,885
history since we last met. Uh,

3107
01:37:38,885 --> 01:37:39,953
it's typically the first

3108
01:37:39,953 --> 01:37:41,254
Tuesday of the month. So with

3109
01:37:41,254 --> 01:37:42,622
the fourth, uh, and the

3110
01:37:42,622 --> 01:37:43,824
election, it's been a couple of

3111
01:37:43,824 --> 01:37:45,292
months, so we've had to meet,

3112
01:37:45,292 --> 01:37:46,493
uh, so in either case, I wanted

3113
01:37:46,493 --> 01:37:48,128
to share some updates from

3114
01:37:48,128 --> 01:37:49,830
them. So they'll be at the Rail

3115
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:51,631
District Festival. Uh, that was

3116
01:37:51,631 --> 01:37:52,599
mentioned earlier. They're

3117
01:37:52,599 --> 01:37:54,034
going to have a table set up

3118
01:37:54,034 --> 01:37:55,435
with some of the sturdier

3119
01:37:55,435 --> 01:37:57,037
artifacts from the log cabin

3120
01:37:57,037 --> 01:37:59,072
there. Um, they're also, uh,

3121
01:37:59,072 --> 01:38:00,273
they've done a ton of work.

3122
01:38:00,273 --> 01:38:03,110
They're almost completed with a

3123
01:38:03,110 --> 01:38:04,278
new brochure that they're going

3124
01:38:04,278 --> 01:38:05,779
to put out to a lot of the

3125
01:38:05,779 --> 01:38:07,180
local businesses. I think

3126
01:38:07,180 --> 01:38:09,016
they're looking to make 18,000

3127
01:38:09,016 --> 01:38:10,951
copies of it. Uh, so quite a

3128
01:38:10,951 --> 01:38:12,686
few, uh, but, you know, that'll

3129
01:38:12,686 --> 01:38:13,787
share with some of our

3130
01:38:13,787 --> 01:38:15,856
visitors, uh, O'Fallon history

3131
01:38:15,856 --> 01:38:17,190
and hopefully draw them out to

3132
01:38:17,190 --> 01:38:18,625
some more of our historical

3133
01:38:18,625 --> 01:38:20,427
sites. Um, also, we're working

3134
01:38:20,427 --> 01:38:21,595
on a project that kind of

3135
01:38:21,595 --> 01:38:22,796
brings some history and

3136
01:38:22,796 --> 01:38:24,598
technology together. Uh, I

3137
01:38:24,598 --> 01:38:26,033
guess they have a series of

3138
01:38:26,033 --> 01:38:27,801
interviews, uh, from residents

3139
01:38:27,801 --> 01:38:29,269
back at the turn of the, the

3140
01:38:29,269 --> 01:38:31,471
19th century, uh, that are

3141
01:38:31,471 --> 01:38:32,973
actually on tape. So we're

3142
01:38:32,973 --> 01:38:34,107
going to be looking to convert

3143
01:38:34,107 --> 01:38:36,543
those into digital recordings,

3144
01:38:36,543 --> 01:38:37,611
uh, and share those on the

3145
01:38:37,611 --> 01:38:39,413
website. Uh, and then the last

3146
01:38:39,413 --> 01:38:40,747
thing just from earlier this

3147
01:38:40,747 --> 01:38:42,015
evening that I'm happy to

3148
01:38:42,015 --> 01:38:43,316
announce is that, uh, with the

3149
01:38:43,316 --> 01:38:44,785
work of, uh, Councilman Boyer

3150
01:38:44,785 --> 01:38:46,586
and myself, uh, we had

3151
01:38:46,586 --> 01:38:48,589
unanimous council approval to

3152
01:38:48,589 --> 01:38:50,624
proceed with the creation of a

3153
01:38:50,624 --> 01:38:51,992
working group that will study

3154
01:38:51,992 --> 01:38:53,560
the impacts of multifamily

3155
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,162
housing in the city. So it'll

3156
01:38:55,162 --> 01:38:56,830
be a five member group, one

3157
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:58,598
from each ward, and will work

3158
01:38:58,598 --> 01:39:00,000
to conduct those studies over

3159
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,334
the next several months and

3160
01:39:01,334 --> 01:39:02,769
turn those into actionable

3161
01:39:02,769 --> 01:39:04,304
outcomes. Thank you. Mayor.

3162
01:39:04,304 --> 01:39:05,339
Mister Casella.

3163
01:39:05,339 --> 01:39:06,506
Thank you. Mayor. I have

3164
01:39:06,506 --> 01:39:08,075
nothing to report. Just to

3165
01:39:08,075 --> 01:39:09,910
never forget. Thanks.

3166
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:12,846
Ward, for..

3167
01:39:12,846 --> 01:39:14,748
Thank you. Um, so I wanted to

3168
01:39:14,748 --> 01:39:17,484
talk about because tonight I'm

3169
01:39:17,484 --> 01:39:20,220
proud to co-sponsor legislation

3170
01:39:20,220 --> 01:39:21,955
with my ward partner, uh,

3171
01:39:21,955 --> 01:39:23,990
council member Spencer,

3172
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:26,126
expanding citizens comments at

3173
01:39:26,126 --> 01:39:27,561
our city council meetings,

3174
01:39:27,561 --> 01:39:29,696
given residents the opportunity

3175
01:39:29,696 --> 01:39:31,698
to speak about issues beyond

3176
01:39:31,698 --> 01:39:33,700
what happens to be listed on

3177
01:39:33,700 --> 01:39:35,702
that night's agenda. And why

3178
01:39:35,702 --> 01:39:37,304
does this matter to me so much?

3179
01:39:37,304 --> 01:39:39,673
Well, because we work for you.

3180
01:39:39,673 --> 01:39:41,274
know, the residents of

3181
01:39:41,274 --> 01:39:43,310
O'Fallon, you're not a guest at

3182
01:39:43,310 --> 01:39:45,612
City Hall. You're not an

3183
01:39:45,612 --> 01:39:47,414
inconvenience. You're our

3184
01:39:47,414 --> 01:39:49,716
bosses. Your tax dollars fund,

3185
01:39:49,716 --> 01:39:51,485
this city and those of us

3186
01:39:51,485 --> 01:39:53,019
sitting behind this dais were

3187
01:39:53,019 --> 01:39:55,322
elected to represent you. This

3188
01:39:55,322 --> 01:39:57,257
dais is not a throne in which

3189
01:39:57,257 --> 01:39:59,292
we rule on. It's a seat of

3190
01:39:59,292 --> 01:40:00,760
public service. And we should

3191
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,863
never forget who put us here.

3192
01:40:02,863 --> 01:40:04,898
So if you have concerns about

3193
01:40:04,898 --> 01:40:06,733
your neighborhood, roads,

3194
01:40:06,733 --> 01:40:08,702
public safety, development

3195
01:40:08,702 --> 01:40:10,403
spending, or the direction of

3196
01:40:10,403 --> 01:40:11,872
our city, you should have the

3197
01:40:11,872 --> 01:40:13,773
opportunity to come before your

3198
01:40:13,773 --> 01:40:15,675
elected representatives and be

3199
01:40:15,675 --> 01:40:18,144
heard, even when what you have

3200
01:40:18,144 --> 01:40:20,981
to say may be uncomfortable or

3201
01:40:20,981 --> 01:40:22,282
something we may not that we

3202
01:40:22,282 --> 01:40:24,117
may disagree with. You know,

3203
01:40:24,117 --> 01:40:26,253
both of my grandfathers served

3204
01:40:26,253 --> 01:40:27,554
for this country and fought to

3205
01:40:27,554 --> 01:40:29,022
protect the freedoms that we

3206
01:40:29,022 --> 01:40:30,891
enjoy and our fundamental right

3207
01:40:30,891 --> 01:40:32,392
for the First Amendment rights.

3208
01:40:32,392 --> 01:40:34,561
And I take those freedoms

3209
01:40:34,561 --> 01:40:36,496
seriously. Government should

3210
01:40:36,496 --> 01:40:38,565
not unnecessarily restrict the

3211
01:40:38,565 --> 01:40:40,800
voices of our residents inside

3212
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,302
the city hall that belongs to

3213
01:40:42,302 --> 01:40:44,671
them. Of course, meetings need

3214
01:40:44,671 --> 01:40:46,706
reasonable rules and maintain

3215
01:40:46,706 --> 01:40:48,275
order and ensure everyone has

3216
01:40:48,275 --> 01:40:50,610
the opportunity to speak, but

3217
01:40:50,610 --> 01:40:52,679
those rules should facilitate

3218
01:40:52,679 --> 01:40:54,514
public participation, not

3219
01:40:54,514 --> 01:40:56,616
become barriers to it. You

3220
01:40:56,616 --> 01:40:57,951
know, like I said, we work for

3221
01:40:57,951 --> 01:40:59,619
you, we answer to you, and we

3222
01:40:59,619 --> 01:41:01,555
should listen to you. And

3223
01:41:01,555 --> 01:41:03,390
public office is not about

3224
01:41:03,390 --> 01:41:05,425
power over the people. It's

3225
01:41:05,425 --> 01:41:07,194
about service to the people.

3226
01:41:07,194 --> 01:41:09,162
And I'll continue working

3227
01:41:09,162 --> 01:41:10,564
towards a city hall that

3228
01:41:10,564 --> 01:41:12,465
remembers that distinction.

3229
01:41:12,465 --> 01:41:13,333
Thank you.

3230
01:41:13,333 --> 01:41:15,869
Miss Taylor. I'm

3231
01:41:15,869 --> 01:41:16,670
sorry, Miss Benson.

3232
01:41:16,670 --> 01:41:18,071
Again, if you want.

3233
01:41:18,071 --> 01:41:19,639
I mean, she can go again if you

3234
01:41:19,639 --> 01:41:22,976
really want her to, uh. I am

3235
01:41:22,976 --> 01:41:24,945
also proud to be sponsoring a

3236
01:41:24,945 --> 01:41:26,179
bill that would give citizens

3237
01:41:26,179 --> 01:41:27,714
the opportunity to comment on

3238
01:41:27,714 --> 01:41:29,249
city related topics that are

3239
01:41:29,249 --> 01:41:31,484
not specifically listed on the

3240
01:41:31,484 --> 01:41:33,587
council agenda. Um, and I

3241
01:41:33,587 --> 01:41:34,788
believe residents should have a

3242
01:41:34,788 --> 01:41:36,122
voice in the city that they

3243
01:41:36,122 --> 01:41:37,257
choose to live in and a chance

3244
01:41:37,257 --> 01:41:38,925
to bring forward questions,

3245
01:41:38,925 --> 01:41:40,560
concerns and ideas and not be

3246
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:41,761
limited to emails, text

3247
01:41:41,761 --> 01:41:42,996
messages and phone calls to do

3248
01:41:42,996 --> 01:41:45,465
so. Um, it's about increasing

3249
01:41:45,465 --> 01:41:46,900
communication, increasing

3250
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:48,468
transparency, and making sure

3251
01:41:48,468 --> 01:41:50,070
that our residents feel heard.

3252
01:41:50,070 --> 01:41:52,105
And I look forward to working

3253
01:41:52,105 --> 01:41:53,640
with my fellow council members

3254
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,008
to figure out a way to move

3255
01:41:55,008 --> 01:41:56,109
forward on this, where everyone

3256
01:41:56,109 --> 01:41:58,445
can be happy. Um, I think the

3257
01:41:58,445 --> 01:42:00,414
residents are expecting us to

3258
01:42:00,414 --> 01:42:01,514
do better, and I think it's

3259
01:42:01,514 --> 01:42:03,483
time we start to do better.

3260
01:42:03,483 --> 01:42:04,851
Thank you.

3261
01:42:04,851 --> 01:42:07,387
We're five.

3262
01:42:07,387 --> 01:42:08,855
Well, everything's been spoken

3263
01:42:08,855 --> 01:42:11,191
on. But since, um, I was

3264
01:42:11,191 --> 01:42:12,792
reminded about anniversaries

3265
01:42:12,792 --> 01:42:13,727
and since my husband just

3266
01:42:13,727 --> 01:42:16,529
walked in the room. My. Our

3267
01:42:16,529 --> 01:42:17,831
anniversary is next Saturday,

3268
01:42:17,831 --> 01:42:19,433
so happy anniversary, dear.

3269
01:42:19,433 --> 01:42:23,971
Oh, boy.

3270
01:42:23,971 --> 01:42:26,506
That's what it was.

3271
01:42:26,506 --> 01:42:29,710
Top that John. Mr. Palmer.

3272
01:42:29,710 --> 01:42:30,877
Uh, I don't know if we should

3273
01:42:30,877 --> 01:42:33,113
comment on the her husband's

3274
01:42:33,113 --> 01:42:36,249
arm injury or not, but anyways,

3275
01:42:36,249 --> 01:42:39,786
um, again tomorrow, a big day.

3276
01:42:39,786 --> 01:42:41,288
Uh, I do want to start by

3277
01:42:41,288 --> 01:42:42,922
expressing sympathy to a family

3278
01:42:42,922 --> 01:42:44,724
friend of mine, uh, Patty Pike,

3279
01:42:44,724 --> 01:42:46,226
who recently lost her long

3280
01:42:46,226 --> 01:42:47,761
fight with cancer. Very

3281
01:42:47,761 --> 01:42:49,229
humbling reminder of our

3282
01:42:49,229 --> 01:42:50,730
mortality. And that bad things

3283
01:42:50,730 --> 01:42:51,932
can happen even to the best of

3284
01:42:51,932 --> 01:42:53,533
people. And a reminder that

3285
01:42:53,533 --> 01:42:54,467
there are some things important

3286
01:42:54,467 --> 01:42:55,568
that are very important in some

3287
01:42:55,568 --> 01:42:57,103
that are not. So my thoughts

3288
01:42:57,103 --> 01:42:58,371
and prayers are with her and

3289
01:42:58,371 --> 01:42:59,773
her family. Also received a

3290
01:42:59,773 --> 01:43:01,708
very nice email from a resident

3291
01:43:01,708 --> 01:43:02,909
and on Saint Gemma Drive,

3292
01:43:02,909 --> 01:43:03,977
complimented the city employees

3293
01:43:03,977 --> 01:43:05,045
for the work that they were

3294
01:43:05,045 --> 01:43:06,479
doing. Uh resident expressed

3295
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:07,314
gratitude for previous

3296
01:43:07,314 --> 01:43:08,348
interactions with the city as

3297
01:43:08,348 --> 01:43:10,083
well. Positive feedback like

3298
01:43:10,083 --> 01:43:12,619
that's always appreciated. So I

3299
01:43:12,619 --> 01:43:13,453
want to say thank you to the

3300
01:43:13,453 --> 01:43:14,521
resident for taking the time to

3301
01:43:14,521 --> 01:43:15,622
share, and especially thank you

3302
01:43:15,622 --> 01:43:16,589
to Jay Farragut, Richard

3303
01:43:16,589 --> 01:43:17,691
Boselli and their teams for

3304
01:43:17,691 --> 01:43:18,691
being helpful and doing a good

3305
01:43:18,691 --> 01:43:20,927
job. We don't usually get

3306
01:43:20,927 --> 01:43:22,796
emails like that. Um, on

3307
01:43:22,796 --> 01:43:24,831
tonight's agenda, I did request

3308
01:43:24,831 --> 01:43:28,134
reconsideration of Bill 7879,

3309
01:43:28,134 --> 01:43:29,169
which failed at our last

3310
01:43:29,169 --> 01:43:30,870
council meeting. I want to be

3311
01:43:30,870 --> 01:43:33,106
very clear about why I did

3312
01:43:33,106 --> 01:43:35,475
that. No one pushed me to do

3313
01:43:35,475 --> 01:43:37,210
this. No one convinced me,

3314
01:43:37,210 --> 01:43:39,479
bullied me, or got to me. The

3315
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:40,714
mayor does not have magical

3316
01:43:40,714 --> 01:43:43,883
powers over me. This is 100% me

3317
01:43:43,883 --> 01:43:46,219
and I took it to some folks to

3318
01:43:46,219 --> 01:43:47,520
try and get advice on

3319
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,190
procedurally how to do this and

3320
01:43:50,190 --> 01:43:52,158
how to get it back. The matter

3321
01:43:52,158 --> 01:43:53,393
back before the council. Anyone

3322
01:43:53,393 --> 01:43:54,828
who knows me knows that the

3323
01:43:54,828 --> 01:43:56,229
pressure and intimidation is

3324
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:57,897
really not a good way or an

3325
01:43:57,897 --> 01:43:59,032
effective way to change my

3326
01:43:59,032 --> 01:44:01,634
mind. I struggled with my vote

3327
01:44:01,634 --> 01:44:03,536
on this proposal. As I said in

3328
01:44:03,536 --> 01:44:04,938
the last meeting, I believe

3329
01:44:04,938 --> 01:44:06,106
there are legitimate concerns

3330
01:44:06,106 --> 01:44:08,641
that deserve to be addressed. I

3331
01:44:08,641 --> 01:44:09,642
believe that we should explore

3332
01:44:09,642 --> 01:44:10,710
whether additional requirements

3333
01:44:10,710 --> 01:44:11,778
can be put in place to mitigate

3334
01:44:11,778 --> 01:44:12,612
some of the problems we

3335
01:44:12,612 --> 01:44:13,513
experienced in similar

3336
01:44:13,513 --> 01:44:15,182
facilities elsewhere. At the

3337
01:44:15,182 --> 01:44:16,416
same time, there's clearly a

3338
01:44:16,416 --> 01:44:17,484
need, as we heard in the public

3339
01:44:17,484 --> 01:44:18,985
comments for this facility. For

3340
01:44:18,985 --> 01:44:21,354
facility like this, they are

3341
01:44:21,354 --> 01:44:22,789
full. They have very long

3342
01:44:22,789 --> 01:44:24,390
waiting lists, and I think we

3343
01:44:24,390 --> 01:44:25,592
have an opportunity to provide

3344
01:44:25,592 --> 01:44:27,127
to help meet the needs of this

3345
01:44:27,127 --> 01:44:28,795
demographic and increase the

3346
01:44:28,795 --> 01:44:29,662
available supply while

3347
01:44:29,662 --> 01:44:31,264
strengthening protections for

3348
01:44:31,264 --> 01:44:32,465
the residents who will live

3349
01:44:32,465 --> 01:44:33,967
there. If the motion to

3350
01:44:33,967 --> 01:44:35,068
reconsider successful, my

3351
01:44:35,068 --> 01:44:36,836
intention is to move the table.

3352
01:44:36,836 --> 01:44:39,472
Bill 7879 and ask city staff to

3353
01:44:39,472 --> 01:44:40,907
evaluate potential enhancements

3354
01:44:40,907 --> 01:44:42,575
to our conditional use permit

3355
01:44:42,575 --> 01:44:43,977
requirements, city code

3356
01:44:43,977 --> 01:44:44,944
enforcement provisions and

3357
01:44:44,944 --> 01:44:46,613
penalty options. The goal will

3358
01:44:46,613 --> 01:44:47,947
be determined whether we can

3359
01:44:47,947 --> 01:44:49,015
better mitigate these types of

3360
01:44:49,015 --> 01:44:49,850
issues that have occurred in

3361
01:44:49,850 --> 01:44:51,584
similar facilities in the area,

3362
01:44:51,584 --> 01:44:54,487
and potentially set aside any

3363
01:44:54,487 --> 01:44:56,523
additional traffic concerns.

3364
01:44:56,523 --> 01:44:57,857
Since last meeting, I received

3365
01:44:57,857 --> 01:44:58,925
feedback indicating that some

3366
01:44:58,925 --> 01:44:59,859
of the concerns I raised were

3367
01:44:59,859 --> 01:45:01,961
shared by others. I'm hopeful

3368
01:45:01,961 --> 01:45:03,229
that we can work together, find

3369
01:45:03,229 --> 01:45:04,497
a responsible path forward, and

3370
01:45:04,497 --> 01:45:05,899
that serves our senior, our

3371
01:45:05,899 --> 01:45:07,400
senior community while

3372
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,269
addressing those concerns, I

3373
01:45:09,269 --> 01:45:10,403
also believe it's important to

3374
01:45:10,403 --> 01:45:11,304
recognize that the applicant

3375
01:45:11,304 --> 01:45:12,272
had very little opportunity to

3376
01:45:12,272 --> 01:45:14,240
respond to the concerns and

3377
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:15,275
requests raised at the last

3378
01:45:15,275 --> 01:45:16,843
meeting, and I and I believe

3379
01:45:16,843 --> 01:45:17,877
the outcome was a bit of a

3380
01:45:17,877 --> 01:45:19,879
surprise. After doing original

3381
01:45:19,879 --> 01:45:20,747
a little bit of research, I

3382
01:45:20,747 --> 01:45:23,283
discovered why the same

3383
01:45:23,283 --> 01:45:24,617
property and the substantially

3384
01:45:24,617 --> 01:45:26,186
the same proposal, except for

3385
01:45:26,186 --> 01:45:31,357
that the previous proposal was 33% larger with 56

3386
01:45:31,357 --> 01:45:32,692
units instead of the current 42

3387
01:45:32,692 --> 01:45:33,659
came before the council less

3388
01:45:33,659 --> 01:45:34,727
than a year ago, as bills

3389
01:45:34,727 --> 01:45:38,164
number 7797 on December 18th,

3390
01:45:38,164 --> 01:45:41,067
2025, Bill 7797 was approved by

3391
01:45:41,067 --> 01:45:43,837
a vote of 8 to 0. At the time,

3392
01:45:43,837 --> 01:45:45,672
one council position was vacant

3393
01:45:45,672 --> 01:45:47,040
and my predecessor was absent

3394
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,874
because she was ill. Given that

3395
01:45:48,874 --> 01:45:49,642
history, the applicant

3396
01:45:49,642 --> 01:45:50,677
reasonably could have expected

3397
01:45:50,677 --> 01:45:52,445
a similar proposal, now reduced

3398
01:45:52,445 --> 01:45:54,280
from 56 to 42, would receive

3399
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,348
serious consideration and

3400
01:45:55,348 --> 01:45:56,716
approval. They had no reason to

3401
01:45:56,716 --> 01:45:58,451
believe otherwise. My purpose

3402
01:45:58,451 --> 01:45:59,619
in asking for reconsideration

3403
01:45:59,619 --> 01:46:00,820
is not to disregard concerns

3404
01:46:00,820 --> 01:46:01,621
that were raised. It's the

3405
01:46:01,621 --> 01:46:03,590
opposite. I want to give us an

3406
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:04,691
opportunity to address those

3407
01:46:04,691 --> 01:46:05,658
concerns thoughtfully, and

3408
01:46:05,658 --> 01:46:06,726
determine whether safeguards

3409
01:46:06,726 --> 01:46:07,727
can be added, and then make the

3410
01:46:07,727 --> 01:46:08,628
decision based on the best

3411
01:46:08,628 --> 01:46:10,697
possible information. I believe

3412
01:46:10,697 --> 01:46:11,865
that this is a responsible

3413
01:46:11,865 --> 01:46:12,966
thing for us to do for the

3414
01:46:12,966 --> 01:46:14,267
neighborhood, the city, and

3415
01:46:14,267 --> 01:46:16,069
particularly for seniors who

3416
01:46:16,069 --> 01:46:17,203
may ultimately depend on

3417
01:46:17,203 --> 01:46:18,505
facilities like this. So I hope

3418
01:46:18,505 --> 01:46:19,506
that I can receive your

3419
01:46:19,506 --> 01:46:20,841
support. Thank you mayor.

3420
01:46:20,841 --> 01:46:24,444
Thank you, Mr. Link.

3421
01:46:24,444 --> 01:46:28,081
I'd like to thank Councilwoman

3422
01:46:28,081 --> 01:46:29,749
Cook for reminding me that I

3423
01:46:29,749 --> 01:46:31,050
also have an anniversary coming

3424
01:46:31,050 --> 01:46:33,219
up, and I would probably be

3425
01:46:33,219 --> 01:46:34,888
toast if I didn't say it. So,

3426
01:46:34,888 --> 01:46:36,222
uh, happy birthday or. I'm

3427
01:46:36,222 --> 01:46:39,225
sorry. Happy anniversary to my

3428
01:46:39,225 --> 01:46:40,793
wife, Abby. Our anniversary is

3429
01:46:40,793 --> 01:46:41,928
coming up on the 14th.

3430
01:46:41,928 --> 01:46:43,563
Thank you. There you go. Nice

3431
01:46:43,563 --> 01:46:47,500
job there, bud. Mr. Snowden, I

3432
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:49,636
don't know how to follow that.

3433
01:46:49,636 --> 01:46:50,871
Perhaps I should apologize.

3434
01:46:50,871 --> 01:46:52,272
To my wife for anything I may

3435
01:46:52,272 --> 01:46:53,473
be about to do.

3436
01:46:53,473 --> 01:46:54,341
I don't know.

3437
01:46:54,341 --> 01:46:56,543
All right. Thank you. Mayor, I.

3438
01:46:56,543 --> 01:46:58,011
I'd like to take a moment to

3439
01:46:58,011 --> 01:46:59,712
acknowledge the contributions

3440
01:46:59,712 --> 01:47:00,680
of staff members who are

3441
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:01,447
reaching milestone

3442
01:47:01,447 --> 01:47:02,849
anniversaries this month.

3443
01:47:02,849 --> 01:47:04,684
Police officers Adam, Ashley,

3444
01:47:04,684 --> 01:47:05,885
Cody Fisher and Brandon

3445
01:47:05,885 --> 01:47:07,387
Kubrick, along with building

3446
01:47:07,387 --> 01:47:09,122
Inspector Nicholas Funk,

3447
01:47:09,122 --> 01:47:10,757
maintenance worker Kyle DeWalt

3448
01:47:10,757 --> 01:47:12,292
and parks construction worker

3449
01:47:12,292 --> 01:47:13,726
Andrew Eiler have all been with

3450
01:47:13,726 --> 01:47:15,962
us for five years. Utility

3451
01:47:15,962 --> 01:47:17,764
worker two Bill Howard has been

3452
01:47:17,764 --> 01:47:19,566
a part of team O'Fallon for ten

3453
01:47:19,566 --> 01:47:21,401
years. And last but certainly

3454
01:47:21,401 --> 01:47:22,569
not least, park's maintenance

3455
01:47:22,569 --> 01:47:24,003
supervisor, Brian Kraft has

3456
01:47:24,003 --> 01:47:26,105
served our city for 15 years,

3457
01:47:26,105 --> 01:47:27,306
so I'd like to thank all eight

3458
01:47:27,306 --> 01:47:28,341
of those individuals for being

3459
01:47:28,341 --> 01:47:29,676
such an integral part of team

3460
01:47:29,676 --> 01:47:31,077
O'Fallon for all these years.

3461
01:47:31,077 --> 01:47:32,178
And that's all I have tonight,

3462
01:47:32,178 --> 01:47:34,681
sir. All right. Brings dull

3463
01:47:34,681 --> 01:47:37,283
business bring. They'll have a

3464
01:47:37,283 --> 01:47:39,586
motion to for reconsideration

3465
01:47:39,586 --> 01:47:45,491
of Bill 7879. Palmer lost by

3466
01:47:45,491 --> 01:47:46,926
Councilman Palmer. Do I have a

3467
01:47:46,926 --> 01:47:49,062
second?

3468
01:47:49,062 --> 01:47:50,096
Wilcox.

3469
01:47:50,096 --> 01:47:54,100
Councilman Wilcox. All in

3470
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:54,834
favor?

3471
01:47:54,834 --> 01:47:55,167
All right.

3472
01:47:55,167 --> 01:47:56,570
Any opposed?

3473
01:47:56,570 --> 01:47:58,438
I.

3474
01:47:58,438 --> 01:47:59,506
just heard the one.

3475
01:47:59,506 --> 01:48:04,511
No more. No roll call.

3476
01:48:04,511 --> 01:48:07,747
Beth.

3477
01:48:07,747 --> 01:48:09,182
Councilmember link.

3478
01:48:09,182 --> 01:48:09,916
Yes.

3479
01:48:09,916 --> 01:48:11,751
Council member. Boyer.

3480
01:48:11,751 --> 01:48:12,452
Yes.

3481
01:48:12,452 --> 01:48:13,887
Council member. Cooke.

3482
01:48:13,887 --> 01:48:14,487
No.

3483
01:48:14,487 --> 01:48:16,056
Council member. Spencer.

3484
01:48:16,056 --> 01:48:16,623
No.

3485
01:48:16,623 --> 01:48:18,325
Council member. Wilcox.

3486
01:48:18,325 --> 01:48:18,992
Yes.

3487
01:48:18,992 --> 01:48:20,193
Council member. Yates.

3488
01:48:20,193 --> 01:48:21,094
No.

3489
01:48:21,094 --> 01:48:23,229
Councilmember. Koskela.

3490
01:48:23,229 --> 01:48:23,930
Yes.

3491
01:48:23,930 --> 01:48:25,398
Councilmember. Palmer.

3492
01:48:25,398 --> 01:48:26,132
Yes.

3493
01:48:26,132 --> 01:48:27,934
Councilmember. Taylor.

3494
01:48:27,934 --> 01:48:28,635
No.

3495
01:48:28,635 --> 01:48:30,136
Councilmember. Wexler.

3496
01:48:30,136 --> 01:48:31,938
Yes.

3497
01:48:31,938 --> 01:48:33,707
Six four.

3498
01:48:33,707 --> 01:48:34,341
Yes.

3499
01:48:34,341 --> 01:48:38,712
All right. Mr.. Palmer.

3500
01:48:38,712 --> 01:48:40,213
So I would like to turn around,

3501
01:48:40,213 --> 01:48:41,648
as I've mentioned in my open in

3502
01:48:41,648 --> 01:48:43,116
my ward report, I'd like to

3503
01:48:43,116 --> 01:48:45,785
table Bill 7879 and request a

3504
01:48:45,785 --> 01:48:47,286
staff evaluate and propose

3505
01:48:47,286 --> 01:48:48,454
potential enhancements to the

3506
01:48:48,454 --> 01:48:49,422
conditional use permit

3507
01:48:49,422 --> 01:48:50,657
requirements, applicable city

3508
01:48:50,657 --> 01:48:51,924
provisions and enforcement and

3509
01:48:51,924 --> 01:48:53,726
penalty options that could help

3510
01:48:53,726 --> 01:48:54,827
us mitigate issues that we

3511
01:48:54,827 --> 01:48:55,728
experience in similar

3512
01:48:55,728 --> 01:48:56,730
facilities in the area.

3513
01:48:56,730 --> 01:48:57,830
All right. So we have a motion

3514
01:48:57,830 --> 01:49:00,767
to table 7879 by Councilman

3515
01:49:00,767 --> 01:49:01,734
Palmer. Do I have a second?

3516
01:49:01,734 --> 01:49:05,004
by Councilman Wilcox.

3517
01:49:05,004 --> 01:49:07,440
Questions? All in favor?

3518
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:07,874
Aye.

3519
01:49:07,874 --> 01:49:10,476
Any opposed?

3520
01:49:10,476 --> 01:49:13,613
Do you want us to move forward?

3521
01:49:13,613 --> 01:49:17,617
Nine one. Motion passes the

3522
01:49:17,617 --> 01:49:25,925
table. Brings us to commit. Go

3523
01:49:25,925 --> 01:49:26,393
ahead. Sir.

3524
01:49:26,393 --> 01:49:27,860
So, does anything else need to

3525
01:49:27,860 --> 01:49:29,862
happen for staff to commence on

3526
01:49:29,862 --> 01:49:33,833
that? I'm new to this.

3527
01:49:33,833 --> 01:49:34,501
No, sir.

3528
01:49:34,501 --> 01:49:37,737
Thank you.

3529
01:49:37,737 --> 01:49:52,552
All right. Brings us to

3530
01:49:52,552 --> 01:49:53,986
committee and commission

3531
01:49:53,986 --> 01:49:58,691
reports. Questions stand as

3532
01:49:58,691 --> 01:50:01,060
read. Questions and comments on

3533
01:50:01,060 --> 01:50:04,764
the consent calendar.

3534
01:50:04,764 --> 01:50:05,832
Motion to approve.

3535
01:50:05,832 --> 01:50:08,735
Second, Wexler.

3536
01:50:08,735 --> 01:50:10,536
Councilman Koskela, seconded by

3537
01:50:10,536 --> 01:50:12,371
Councilman Wexler. Councilman,

3538
01:50:12,371 --> 01:50:18,411
cast your vote.

3539
01:50:18,411 --> 01:50:20,680
The voting is closed.

3540
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:22,448
Ten. Yes. Zero. No. The consent

3541
01:50:22,448 --> 01:50:24,650
calendar has been approved.

3542
01:50:24,650 --> 01:50:27,987
Next is a public hearing to

3543
01:50:27,987 --> 01:50:29,021
consider amending certain

3544
01:50:29,021 --> 01:50:30,456
provisions of title for land

3545
01:50:30,456 --> 01:50:32,525
use. Chapter 400 related

3546
01:50:32,525 --> 01:50:34,160
regulations pertaining to

3547
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:35,528
development activities within

3548
01:50:35,528 --> 01:50:36,562
the great city of O'Fallon,

3549
01:50:36,562 --> 01:50:44,738
Missouri. Mr. woods.

3550
01:50:44,738 --> 01:50:46,906
Thank you, Mayor and Council.

3551
01:50:46,906 --> 01:50:48,041
This is really just kind of

3552
01:50:48,041 --> 01:50:49,041
following up to the ordinance

3553
01:50:49,041 --> 01:50:50,843
that was approved by, actually

3554
01:50:50,843 --> 01:50:52,178
P and Z in the council just

3555
01:50:52,178 --> 01:50:54,213
last month where we were want

3556
01:50:54,213 --> 01:50:57,083
to limit commercial recreation.

3557
01:50:57,083 --> 01:51:00,086
We we changed the code last month for industrial to

3558
01:51:00,086 --> 01:51:01,053
limit that in industrial

3559
01:51:01,053 --> 01:51:02,855
districts. This has taken it a

3560
01:51:02,855 --> 01:51:04,724
little further, but taken out

3561
01:51:04,724 --> 01:51:06,459
the commercial recreation in

3562
01:51:06,459 --> 01:51:08,895
our high tech zoning. So that's

3563
01:51:08,895 --> 01:51:09,895
the only, only thing that's

3564
01:51:09,895 --> 01:51:12,465
being changed is changing that

3565
01:51:12,465 --> 01:51:14,267
land use from being allowed in

3566
01:51:14,267 --> 01:51:16,435
high tech, a recreational

3567
01:51:16,435 --> 01:51:21,107
facility and that's what we've

3568
01:51:21,107 --> 01:51:22,241
just done for industrial. Yes,

3569
01:51:22,241 --> 01:51:22,876
sir.

3570
01:51:22,876 --> 01:51:25,444
Okay. Questions for David.

3571
01:51:25,444 --> 01:51:27,246
Yeah. Can you can you give me

3572
01:51:27,246 --> 01:51:30,116
examples of these types of

3573
01:51:30,116 --> 01:51:31,250
facilities that we would no

3574
01:51:31,250 --> 01:51:32,619
longer allow in tech?

3575
01:51:32,619 --> 01:51:33,686
Yeah, there's there's one I

3576
01:51:33,686 --> 01:51:34,954
know of for sure. There was

3577
01:51:34,954 --> 01:51:36,355
like a batting cage, batting

3578
01:51:36,355 --> 01:51:37,723
cages, indoor batting cages was

3579
01:51:37,723 --> 01:51:40,693
one, um, uh, like training,

3580
01:51:40,693 --> 01:51:42,628
soccer training facilities. I

3581
01:51:42,628 --> 01:51:44,897
know of a few of those around.

3582
01:51:44,897 --> 01:51:46,666
Cheerleading, uh, would be

3583
01:51:46,666 --> 01:51:47,767
something commercial

3584
01:51:47,767 --> 01:51:49,668
recreation, uh, kind of fits a

3585
01:51:49,668 --> 01:51:52,071
lot of those categories. Or

3586
01:51:52,071 --> 01:51:52,806
uses.

3587
01:51:52,806 --> 01:51:56,642
And then like that. Uh, reduces

3588
01:51:56,642 --> 01:51:57,744
the flexibility on the use of

3589
01:51:57,744 --> 01:52:00,012
that land. Is there like, what?

3590
01:52:00,012 --> 01:52:01,480
I don't I'm not quite sure why

3591
01:52:01,480 --> 01:52:03,917
it's a big deal.

3592
01:52:03,917 --> 01:52:05,818
Well, I think, you know, rather

3593
01:52:05,818 --> 01:52:06,919
than having those type of uses

3594
01:52:06,919 --> 01:52:08,988
in, we're going to have more

3595
01:52:08,988 --> 01:52:11,524
businesses that have, uh, you

3596
01:52:11,524 --> 01:52:14,760
know, more the high tech, uh,

3597
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,263
offices, you know, research and

3598
01:52:17,263 --> 01:52:18,931
development, rather than just

3599
01:52:18,931 --> 01:52:20,166
having, you know, big

3600
01:52:20,166 --> 01:52:21,901
warehouses not being used to.

3601
01:52:21,901 --> 01:52:24,103
They're fulfilled, uh, proposed

3602
01:52:24,103 --> 01:52:27,307
use.

3603
01:52:27,307 --> 01:52:28,775
Mr. Lincoln.

3604
01:52:28,775 --> 01:52:31,878
Uh, so, Mr. Woods, then, I

3605
01:52:31,878 --> 01:52:33,379
guess those types of businesses

3606
01:52:33,379 --> 01:52:34,914
would be more appropriate in,

3607
01:52:34,914 --> 01:52:38,551
like C1, C2, as opposed to high

3608
01:52:38,551 --> 01:52:39,452
tech corridor.

3609
01:52:39,452 --> 01:52:40,686
Yeah, they would. They're still

3610
01:52:40,686 --> 01:52:42,188
allowed in commercial.

3611
01:52:42,188 --> 01:52:43,756
And those aren't changing at

3612
01:52:43,756 --> 01:52:46,025
all. It's only the TCD that's

3613
01:52:46,025 --> 01:52:48,194
impacted okay. Thank you.

3614
01:52:48,194 --> 01:52:51,230
Anybody else David if you would

3615
01:52:51,230 --> 01:53:04,744
step aside, Mr. Dean of.

3616
01:53:04,744 --> 01:53:06,212
Thank you. Members of city

3617
01:53:06,212 --> 01:53:10,917
Council. Um, as the last bill I

3618
01:53:10,917 --> 01:53:12,385
oppose because I think that

3619
01:53:12,385 --> 01:53:14,153
private property owner rights

3620
01:53:14,153 --> 01:53:16,322
have the right to establish

3621
01:53:16,322 --> 01:53:18,758
recreational needs in vacant

3622
01:53:18,758 --> 01:53:20,159
buildings that we have

3623
01:53:20,159 --> 01:53:21,427
throughout the city. Um, I

3624
01:53:21,427 --> 01:53:22,528
think that that's an individual

3625
01:53:22,528 --> 01:53:24,397
property right now when it

3626
01:53:24,397 --> 01:53:26,432
comes to the high tech corridor

3627
01:53:26,432 --> 01:53:28,200
we have decimated, we have

3628
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,070
destroyed this district. In my

3629
01:53:31,070 --> 01:53:33,139
opposition over the last decade

3630
01:53:33,139 --> 01:53:35,741
or two decades, almost, um,

3631
01:53:35,741 --> 01:53:38,644
previous city councils have

3632
01:53:38,644 --> 01:53:41,447
absolutely eroded the high

3633
01:53:41,447 --> 01:53:43,849
technology corridor and zoning

3634
01:53:43,849 --> 01:53:45,751
district. We have given in to

3635
01:53:45,751 --> 01:53:47,687
special interest developers. We

3636
01:53:47,687 --> 01:53:49,488
have given in to special money,

3637
01:53:49,488 --> 01:53:54,493
we have given in to, um,

3638
01:53:54,493 --> 01:53:57,863
destroying what the technology

3639
01:53:57,863 --> 01:54:00,232
is, the future of our nation. I

3640
01:54:00,232 --> 01:54:02,034
am in support of this change of

3641
01:54:02,034 --> 01:54:04,770
article seven, uh, chapter 400,

3642
01:54:04,770 --> 01:54:06,706
title four. By not allowing

3643
01:54:06,706 --> 01:54:08,541
recreational facilities or

3644
01:54:08,541 --> 01:54:10,977
indoor sales or service or

3645
01:54:10,977 --> 01:54:12,645
commercial recreational

3646
01:54:12,645 --> 01:54:14,847
opportunities in our high tech

3647
01:54:14,847 --> 01:54:16,816
corridor, or that zoning

3648
01:54:16,816 --> 01:54:20,753
district. Let's make a hard

3649
01:54:20,753 --> 01:54:22,955
stand. City Council by stop

3650
01:54:22,955 --> 01:54:25,424
giving game by stop giving in

3651
01:54:25,424 --> 01:54:27,159
and giving away the zoning of

3652
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:29,562
our high technology district.

3653
01:54:29,562 --> 01:54:31,564
We have given in to storage

3654
01:54:31,564 --> 01:54:33,733
buildings. We have given in to

3655
01:54:33,733 --> 01:54:36,235
banks. We have given in to car

3656
01:54:36,235 --> 01:54:38,537
washes, and we have mostly

3657
01:54:38,537 --> 01:54:40,573
given in to huge apartment

3658
01:54:40,573 --> 01:54:42,808
complexes and our technology

3659
01:54:42,808 --> 01:54:45,611
high, uh, um, our technology

3660
01:54:45,611 --> 01:54:48,280
corridor. And I have opposed

3661
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:49,749
those issues. I oppose those

3662
01:54:49,749 --> 01:54:51,951
zoning measures. We continue to

3663
01:54:51,951 --> 01:54:54,220
give away and erode that

3664
01:54:54,220 --> 01:54:55,688
district. We don't even have a

3665
01:54:55,688 --> 01:54:58,190
district, almost. It's almost

3666
01:54:58,190 --> 01:55:00,559
non-existent on the south side

3667
01:55:00,559 --> 01:55:02,128
where we have Technology

3668
01:55:02,128 --> 01:55:03,629
Boulevard. It's called

3669
01:55:03,629 --> 01:55:04,997
Technology Boulevard for a

3670
01:55:04,997 --> 01:55:06,532
reason, but it never came to

3671
01:55:06,532 --> 01:55:09,368
fruition. We never took the

3672
01:55:09,368 --> 01:55:11,270
breadcrumbs and never made some

3673
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:13,272
economic establishments and

3674
01:55:13,272 --> 01:55:16,108
tried to gain national interest

3675
01:55:16,108 --> 01:55:18,711
in attracting high tech

3676
01:55:18,711 --> 01:55:20,846
industries to O'Fallon. And

3677
01:55:20,846 --> 01:55:22,515
it's it's shameful because we

3678
01:55:22,515 --> 01:55:24,383
have Mastercard, we have

3679
01:55:24,383 --> 01:55:25,684
companies down there that are

3680
01:55:25,684 --> 01:55:27,720
huge and that would just go

3681
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:28,988
hand in hand with each other.

3682
01:55:28,988 --> 01:55:30,756
And then a high tech corridor

3683
01:55:30,756 --> 01:55:33,626
district. So I'm in support of

3684
01:55:33,626 --> 01:55:36,362
Bill number 78, 84. Um, and

3685
01:55:36,362 --> 01:55:38,164
let's stop eroding what we have

3686
01:55:38,164 --> 01:55:40,299
left. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3687
01:55:40,299 --> 01:55:43,335
Thank you. No speakers will go

3688
01:55:43,335 --> 01:55:44,503
ahead and close the public

3689
01:55:44,503 --> 01:55:45,871
hearing. And brings us to Bill.

3690
01:55:45,871 --> 01:55:49,675
Any questions for David?

3691
01:55:49,675 --> 01:55:53,546
Thanks, David. Bill 7884. Most

3692
01:55:53,546 --> 01:55:58,684
first reading. Lawyer was

3693
01:55:58,684 --> 01:56:00,119
Councilmember Boyer, second.

3694
01:56:00,119 --> 01:56:01,921
Palmer second by Councilman

3695
01:56:01,921 --> 01:56:03,789
Palmer, Councilman Boyer,

3696
01:56:03,789 --> 01:56:04,924
please present the bill.

3697
01:56:04,924 --> 01:56:08,661
number 7884, an ordinance

3698
01:56:08,661 --> 01:56:09,929
amending certain provisions of

3699
01:56:09,929 --> 01:56:11,564
the title for land use. Chapter

3700
01:56:11,564 --> 01:56:13,999
400 related to regulations

3701
01:56:13,999 --> 01:56:15,034
pertaining to development

3702
01:56:15,034 --> 01:56:16,836
activities within the city of

3703
01:56:16,836 --> 01:56:17,770
O'Fallon, Missouri.

3704
01:56:17,770 --> 01:56:18,938
Thank you. Next is public

3705
01:56:18,938 --> 01:56:20,439
hearing to consider leaving the

3706
01:56:20,439 --> 01:56:21,740
property tax for the great city

3707
01:56:21,740 --> 01:56:23,342
of O'Fallon, Missouri for the

3708
01:56:23,342 --> 01:56:25,244
year 2026 for the purpose of

3709
01:56:25,244 --> 01:56:26,579
general revenue and debt

3710
01:56:26,579 --> 01:56:32,819
service. Miss Buescher.

3711
01:56:32,819 --> 01:56:36,956
Good evening. On the agenda

3712
01:56:36,956 --> 01:56:38,324
tonight is the first reading of

3713
01:56:38,324 --> 01:56:40,626
the property tax ordinance.

3714
01:56:40,626 --> 01:56:42,962
There are two rates that are

3715
01:56:42,962 --> 01:56:44,563
being set. The first is our

3716
01:56:44,563 --> 01:56:49,368
general levy. The general levy

3717
01:56:49,368 --> 01:56:53,439
for last year was 0.2815. I am

3718
01:56:53,439 --> 01:56:55,040
recommending that it stayed the

3719
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,376
same. Um, that rate is set

3720
01:56:57,376 --> 01:56:59,845
using the Hancock amendment,

3721
01:56:59,845 --> 01:57:01,547
and that is also certified

3722
01:57:01,547 --> 01:57:02,548
through the Missouri State

3723
01:57:02,548 --> 01:57:04,650
Auditor's office. So I am

3724
01:57:04,650 --> 01:57:06,585
recommending that we levy that

3725
01:57:06,585 --> 01:57:08,387
at the ceiling of which we're

3726
01:57:08,387 --> 01:57:10,656
allowed to the second rate we

3727
01:57:10,656 --> 01:57:12,591
levy is a debt service rate.

3728
01:57:12,591 --> 01:57:14,793
This is the monies that we use

3729
01:57:14,793 --> 01:57:16,562
to pay off the Geo bonds that

3730
01:57:16,562 --> 01:57:18,731
were approved by our voters.

3731
01:57:18,731 --> 01:57:21,200
There is a calculation that's

3732
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,369
used in order to set this levy.

3733
01:57:23,369 --> 01:57:24,937
It's based on the amount of

3734
01:57:24,937 --> 01:57:28,874
bonds that we issue in 2027,

3735
01:57:28,874 --> 01:57:30,575
and the amount of bonds that

3736
01:57:30,575 --> 01:57:34,713
are issued in 2028. The monies

3737
01:57:34,713 --> 01:57:36,215
that we collect for our

3738
01:57:36,215 --> 01:57:38,050
property taxes, a majority of

3739
01:57:38,050 --> 01:57:39,118
those are collected in

3740
01:57:39,118 --> 01:57:41,787
December, and up to 60 days

3741
01:57:41,787 --> 01:57:44,256
after the end of the year. So a

3742
01:57:44,256 --> 01:57:46,125
lot of the property taxes that

3743
01:57:46,125 --> 01:57:47,760
we collect aren't collected

3744
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:48,961
until after the end of the

3745
01:57:48,961 --> 01:57:50,029
year, which is why we're

3746
01:57:50,029 --> 01:57:51,564
allowed to use two years worth

3747
01:57:51,564 --> 01:57:56,068
of reserve. Um, that rate in

3748
01:57:56,068 --> 01:58:02,274
2025 was 0.1401. The ceiling

3749
01:58:02,274 --> 01:58:04,677
for the debt service levy is at

3750
01:58:04,677 --> 01:58:08,280
0.1221. I am recommending

3751
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:12,551
dropping that to 0.1100. I

3752
01:58:12,551 --> 01:58:13,886
believe we have sufficient

3753
01:58:13,886 --> 01:58:15,187
reserves that will help drop

3754
01:58:15,187 --> 01:58:16,755
the reserves just a little bit,

3755
01:58:16,755 --> 01:58:17,723
to make sure that we're not

3756
01:58:17,723 --> 01:58:19,024
holding on to too many of

3757
01:58:19,024 --> 01:58:21,193
those. And if you have any

3758
01:58:21,193 --> 01:58:22,928
questions for me, I am happy to

3759
01:58:22,928 --> 01:58:23,729
answer them.

3760
01:58:23,729 --> 01:58:25,364
Questions for Vicky. Mr.

3761
01:58:25,364 --> 01:58:25,932
Lincoln.

3762
01:58:25,932 --> 01:58:27,199
Thank you. Mayor, did you just

3763
01:58:27,199 --> 01:58:28,801
say you're going to drop tax

3764
01:58:28,801 --> 01:58:31,670
payer tax rates by 20% in one

3765
01:58:31,670 --> 01:58:33,105
category?

3766
01:58:33,105 --> 01:58:34,573
I did..

3767
01:58:34,573 --> 01:58:36,342
Great news. Yep. Fully

3768
01:58:36,342 --> 01:58:37,076
supported.

3769
01:58:37,076 --> 01:58:38,477
Thank you.

3770
01:58:38,477 --> 01:58:41,513
Anybody else? Thank you for

3771
01:58:41,513 --> 01:58:43,549
your step aside. This public

3772
01:58:43,549 --> 01:58:55,394
hearing, Mr. Danoff.

3773
01:58:55,394 --> 01:58:56,862
Thank you very much. Members of

3774
01:58:56,862 --> 01:58:59,398
council, this is on the

3775
01:58:59,398 --> 01:59:02,501
proposed 2026 personal real

3776
01:59:02,501 --> 01:59:06,338
estate Tax Levies Bill 7885.

3777
01:59:06,338 --> 01:59:08,874
Um, the proposed general and

3778
01:59:08,874 --> 01:59:11,644
debt service funds are a

3779
01:59:11,644 --> 01:59:14,980
combination of 0.3915 on every

3780
01:59:14,980 --> 01:59:18,083
$100. The valuation and how you

3781
01:59:18,083 --> 01:59:19,585
do that is it's 18% for

3782
01:59:19,585 --> 01:59:22,021
residential, 32% for commercial

3783
01:59:22,021 --> 01:59:24,823
and 11% for agricultural. The

3784
01:59:24,823 --> 01:59:26,759
state statute and state auditor

3785
01:59:26,759 --> 01:59:30,095
require the pro forma, um, 8 to

3786
01:59:30,095 --> 01:59:32,164
12 pages must be reviewed,

3787
01:59:32,164 --> 01:59:33,866
proofed and approved by the

3788
01:59:33,866 --> 01:59:35,200
state auditor and their legal

3789
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:37,469
staff is legal, compliant and

3790
01:59:37,469 --> 01:59:39,004
not to exceed voter approved

3791
01:59:39,004 --> 01:59:41,006
tax ceilings. I asked the

3792
01:59:41,006 --> 01:59:42,441
Director of Finance and the

3793
01:59:42,441 --> 01:59:44,543
City Council to be transparent

3794
01:59:44,543 --> 01:59:47,513
in the next go around with 2027

3795
01:59:47,513 --> 01:59:49,248
and make sure that that's those

3796
01:59:49,248 --> 01:59:51,750
proforma forms are published in

3797
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:53,385
the City Council packet to be

3798
01:59:53,385 --> 01:59:55,988
transparent to all taxpayers.

3799
01:59:55,988 --> 01:59:57,956
Um, where the new construction

3800
01:59:57,956 --> 01:59:59,525
figures. I didn't see that in

3801
01:59:59,525 --> 02:00:00,959
the memo by the Director of

3802
02:00:00,959 --> 02:00:02,961
finance. I think that those are

3803
02:00:02,961 --> 02:00:05,330
a tax increase to our city, and

3804
02:00:05,330 --> 02:00:06,465
those go into immediate

3805
02:00:06,465 --> 02:00:08,500
occupation. After 30 days of

3806
02:00:08,500 --> 02:00:09,802
occupying, whether it's

3807
02:00:09,802 --> 02:00:12,838
residential or commercial, we

3808
02:00:12,838 --> 02:00:15,341
live off of sales taxes. That's

3809
02:00:15,341 --> 02:00:16,475
predominantly the most that

3810
02:00:16,475 --> 02:00:17,910
comes into our conferences

3811
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:19,712
sales taxes. And we need to

3812
02:00:19,712 --> 02:00:21,780
back off and annually work

3813
02:00:21,780 --> 02:00:24,350
towards lowering our tax levy

3814
02:00:24,350 --> 02:00:26,418
responsibility on the backs of

3815
02:00:26,418 --> 02:00:29,421
taxpayers. For those reasons, I

3816
02:00:29,421 --> 02:00:31,657
am asking the City Council that

3817
02:00:31,657 --> 02:00:33,058
you look at phasing out the

3818
02:00:33,058 --> 02:00:34,727
personal property tax in its

3819
02:00:34,727 --> 02:00:36,428
entirety, just as Saint Charles

3820
02:00:36,428 --> 02:00:39,598
County did for this year. Um,

3821
02:00:39,598 --> 02:00:40,933
no one in Saint Charles County

3822
02:00:40,933 --> 02:00:42,568
for the General fund or the

3823
02:00:42,568 --> 02:00:44,336
Alarm and dispatch Fund, or the

3824
02:00:44,336 --> 02:00:45,804
road fund will be paying

3825
02:00:45,804 --> 02:00:47,239
personal property tax at the

3826
02:00:47,239 --> 02:00:48,874
county level. And I ask that we

3827
02:00:48,874 --> 02:00:50,142
look at doing the same in

3828
02:00:50,142 --> 02:00:53,011
workshop sessions. I propose

3829
02:00:53,011 --> 02:00:54,913
that the two tax levies be set

3830
02:00:54,913 --> 02:00:57,216
as following the general fund

3831
02:00:57,216 --> 02:01:03,789
to be set at 0.2800, and the

3832
02:01:03,789 --> 02:01:07,760
debt service fund at 0.1100,

3833
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:11,697
for a combined rate of 0.3900

3834
02:01:11,697 --> 02:01:13,799
on 100 valuation. You know,

3835
02:01:13,799 --> 02:01:15,033
we're all taxpayers. No one

3836
02:01:15,033 --> 02:01:16,668
wants to pay taxes. But I

3837
02:01:16,668 --> 02:01:18,337
believe the taxpayers deserve a

3838
02:01:18,337 --> 02:01:20,272
break. I think we need to.

3839
02:01:20,272 --> 02:01:22,875
We've set we've set record

3840
02:01:22,875 --> 02:01:25,377
setting sales tax income for

3841
02:01:25,377 --> 02:01:27,780
last 16 years. Um, year after

3842
02:01:27,780 --> 02:01:29,915
year, historic income to our

3843
02:01:29,915 --> 02:01:31,417
city. And we need to start

3844
02:01:31,417 --> 02:01:32,618
backing off of our personal

3845
02:01:32,618 --> 02:01:34,253
property and our real estate

3846
02:01:34,253 --> 02:01:36,155
taxes. And so I hope that you

3847
02:01:36,155 --> 02:01:37,689
adopt my recommendation over

3848
02:01:37,689 --> 02:01:38,624
the recommendation of the

3849
02:01:38,624 --> 02:01:40,325
finance director. I believe

3850
02:01:40,325 --> 02:01:41,794
taxpayers deserve to have that

3851
02:01:41,794 --> 02:01:43,862
slight, small break. Thank you,

3852
02:01:43,862 --> 02:01:44,597
Mr. Mayor.

3853
02:01:44,597 --> 02:01:47,166
Thank you. We have no other

3854
02:01:47,166 --> 02:01:49,034
speakers, so we'll go ahead and

3855
02:01:49,034 --> 02:01:50,169
close the public hearing. Any

3856
02:01:50,169 --> 02:01:53,639
other questions for Vicki?

3857
02:01:53,639 --> 02:01:56,875
Seeing none brings to Bill 7885

3858
02:01:56,875 --> 02:01:58,210
motion for first reading.

3859
02:01:58,210 --> 02:01:59,011
Kelly.

3860
02:01:59,011 --> 02:02:04,783
Who was that link and. Motion

3861
02:02:04,783 --> 02:02:06,985
by Councilman Lake, second by

3862
02:02:06,985 --> 02:02:08,120
Councilmember Lake. Please

3863
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:09,789
present the bill.

3864
02:02:09,789 --> 02:02:13,258
7885, an ordinance

3865
02:02:13,258 --> 02:02:14,960
providing for the levying of a

3866
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:16,495
property tax for the city of

3867
02:02:16,495 --> 02:02:18,096
O'Fallon, Missouri for the year

3868
02:02:18,096 --> 02:02:20,699
2026. For the purposes of

3869
02:02:20,699 --> 02:02:22,100
general revenue and debt

3870
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:22,802
service.

3871
02:02:22,802 --> 02:02:25,404
Thank you. Brings Bill 7886

3872
02:02:25,404 --> 02:02:26,539
motion first reading.

3873
02:02:26,539 --> 02:02:27,139
Osceola.

3874
02:02:27,139 --> 02:02:29,074
Mr. Costello, second link

3875
02:02:29,074 --> 02:02:30,275
second by Councilman Lane.

3876
02:02:30,275 --> 02:02:31,376
Councilman Costello, please

3877
02:02:31,376 --> 02:02:32,077
present the bill.

3878
02:02:32,077 --> 02:02:33,979
Thank you. Mayor Bill, number

3879
02:02:33,979 --> 02:02:36,381
7886. An ordinance providing

3880
02:02:36,381 --> 02:02:37,850
for the approval and acceptance

3881
02:02:37,850 --> 02:02:39,151
of the dedication of streets in

3882
02:02:39,151 --> 02:02:40,853
certain storm sewers for

3883
02:02:40,853 --> 02:02:41,654
maintenance by the City of

3884
02:02:41,654 --> 02:02:42,788
Fallon, for the villages of

3885
02:02:42,788 --> 02:02:44,156
post farms. Plat three.

3886
02:02:44,156 --> 02:02:47,159
Thank you. Brings Bill 7887.

3887
02:02:47,159 --> 02:02:48,694
Motion first reading.

3888
02:02:48,694 --> 02:02:49,528
Wilcox.

3889
02:02:49,528 --> 02:02:50,930
Councilman Wilcox, second.

3890
02:02:50,930 --> 02:02:51,397
Wexler.

3891
02:02:51,397 --> 02:02:52,865
Second Councilman Wexler.

3892
02:02:52,865 --> 02:02:53,799
Councilman Wilcox, please

3893
02:02:53,799 --> 02:02:55,167
present the bill.

3894
02:02:55,167 --> 02:02:59,171
number 7887. An ordinance

3895
02:02:59,171 --> 02:03:00,506
approving a cooperation

3896
02:03:00,506 --> 02:03:01,874
reimbursement agreement between

3897
02:03:01,874 --> 02:03:03,242
Green Rivers Greenway and the

3898
02:03:03,242 --> 02:03:04,977
city of O'Fallon for the city

3899
02:03:04,977 --> 02:03:06,512
to be reimbursed. A portion of

3900
02:03:06,512 --> 02:03:08,347
the construction costs for the

3901
02:03:08,347 --> 02:03:09,848
Great Rivers Greenway. Twin

3902
02:03:09,848 --> 02:03:11,350
Island Trailhead project, and

3903
02:03:11,350 --> 02:03:13,952
an amount not to exceed

3904
02:03:13,952 --> 02:03:16,121
$275,000.

3905
02:03:16,121 --> 02:03:18,590
Thank you. Brings Bill 7888

3906
02:03:18,590 --> 02:03:21,794
motion first reading.

3907
02:03:21,794 --> 02:03:22,561
Wexler.

3908
02:03:22,561 --> 02:03:24,697
Councilman Wexler, second.

3909
02:03:24,697 --> 02:03:25,364
Boyer.

3910
02:03:25,364 --> 02:03:26,532
Thinking by Councilman Yates.

3911
02:03:26,532 --> 02:03:27,966
Councilman Wexler, present the

3912
02:03:27,966 --> 02:03:28,434
bill.

3913
02:03:28,434 --> 02:03:31,737
number 7888. An ordinance

3914
02:03:31,737 --> 02:03:32,638
authorizing the city of

3915
02:03:32,638 --> 02:03:33,839
O'Fallon to enter into a

3916
02:03:33,839 --> 02:03:35,440
building and code enforcement

3917
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:37,342
services mutual aid agreement

3918
02:03:37,342 --> 02:03:38,810
for emergency and disaster

3919
02:03:38,810 --> 02:03:39,878
response with Saint Charles

3920
02:03:39,878 --> 02:03:42,014
County and area participating

3921
02:03:42,014 --> 02:03:42,982
municipalities.

3922
02:03:42,982 --> 02:03:45,417
Thank you. Brings Bill 7889.

3923
02:03:45,417 --> 02:03:46,585
Most First Reading.

3924
02:03:46,585 --> 02:03:47,386
Spencer.

3925
02:03:47,386 --> 02:03:48,654
That's why Councilwoman Spencer

3926
02:03:48,654 --> 02:03:49,255
second.

3927
02:03:49,255 --> 02:03:49,889
Taylor.

3928
02:03:49,889 --> 02:03:51,356
Councilman Taylor, Councilwoman

3929
02:03:51,356 --> 02:03:52,524
Spencer, please present the

3930
02:03:52,524 --> 02:03:53,025
bill.

3931
02:03:53,025 --> 02:03:56,328
number 7889, an ordinance

3932
02:03:56,328 --> 02:04:01,533
amending section 110.200 of the

3933
02:04:01,533 --> 02:04:03,302
O'Fallon City Code relating to

3934
02:04:03,302 --> 02:04:04,737
City Council meetings.

3935
02:04:04,737 --> 02:04:07,039
Thank you. Brings Bill 7890

3936
02:04:07,039 --> 02:04:08,707
first reading. Cook. Mr.

3937
02:04:08,707 --> 02:04:09,742
Councilwoman Cook, second.

3938
02:04:09,742 --> 02:04:10,309
Wexler.

3939
02:04:10,309 --> 02:04:11,877
Thank Councilman Wexler.

3940
02:04:11,877 --> 02:04:12,844
Councilwoman cook, please

3941
02:04:12,844 --> 02:04:14,380
present the bill.

3942
02:04:14,380 --> 02:04:16,181
Thank you. Mayor Bill, number

3943
02:04:16,181 --> 02:04:17,849
7890. An ordinance approving

3944
02:04:17,849 --> 02:04:19,117
the record plant of O'Fallon

3945
02:04:19,117 --> 02:04:20,552
Sports Center and authorizing

3946
02:04:20,552 --> 02:04:21,987
the city clerk to attest and

3947
02:04:21,987 --> 02:04:23,756
certify approval of said plat.

3948
02:04:23,756 --> 02:04:24,823
Thank you. Motion for second

3949
02:04:24,823 --> 02:04:26,658
reading by title only. Cook.

3950
02:04:26,658 --> 02:04:27,726
Councilwoman cook, second.

3951
02:04:27,726 --> 02:04:29,094
Wexler.

3952
02:04:29,094 --> 02:04:31,663
Councilman Wexler. All in

3953
02:04:31,663 --> 02:04:33,865
favor? Aye. Any opposed? Mr.

3954
02:04:33,865 --> 02:04:34,400
O'Keefe?

3955
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:36,602
Bill. Number 7890. Second

3956
02:04:36,602 --> 02:04:37,936
reading and consideration for

3957
02:04:37,936 --> 02:04:39,137
adoption. An ordinance

3958
02:04:39,137 --> 02:04:40,272
approving the record plat of

3959
02:04:40,272 --> 02:04:41,673
O'Fallon Sports Center and

3960
02:04:41,673 --> 02:04:43,208
authorizing the City clerk to

3961
02:04:43,208 --> 02:04:45,243
attest and certify certify

3962
02:04:45,243 --> 02:04:46,645
approval of said plat.

3963
02:04:46,645 --> 02:04:48,246
Most final passage. Cook.

3964
02:04:48,246 --> 02:04:49,314
Motion for Councilman Cook,

3965
02:04:49,314 --> 02:04:51,817
second. We'll give it to Mr.

3966
02:04:51,817 --> 02:04:55,420
Palmer this time. Questions or

3967
02:04:55,420 --> 02:05:02,595
comments? Cast your vote.

3968
02:05:02,595 --> 02:05:04,763
The voting is closed.

3969
02:05:04,763 --> 02:05:09,234
Dan. Yes, 0078 90 passed

3970
02:05:09,234 --> 02:05:12,037
becomes ordinance number.

3971
02:05:12,037 --> 02:05:15,874
73397339. Thank you. Bess.

3972
02:05:15,874 --> 02:05:17,142
Questions or comments on

3973
02:05:17,142 --> 02:05:20,312
resolution 910 2026 D is in

3974
02:05:20,312 --> 02:05:24,449
David. Seeing none do a motion

3975
02:05:24,449 --> 02:05:27,453
to introduce.

3976
02:05:27,453 --> 02:05:28,153
Cook.

3977
02:05:28,153 --> 02:05:30,689
Mr.. Councilman Cook, second.

3978
02:05:30,689 --> 02:05:31,289
Boyer.

3979
02:05:31,289 --> 02:05:32,658
Thank you, Councilmember Boyer.

3980
02:05:32,658 --> 02:05:35,027
All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Mr.

3981
02:05:35,027 --> 02:05:37,196
O'Keefe.

3982
02:05:37,196 --> 02:05:42,367
Resolution nine 1020 2026 D as

3983
02:05:42,367 --> 02:05:46,304
in. A resolution authorizing a

3984
02:05:46,304 --> 02:05:48,040
multi-year agreement with Trek

3985
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,876
Design Group, LLC providing for

3986
02:05:50,876 --> 02:05:53,045
sanitary sewer flow metering

3987
02:05:53,045 --> 02:05:54,013
services.

3988
02:05:54,013 --> 02:05:55,614
Motion for approval. Cook.

3989
02:05:55,614 --> 02:05:57,349
Councilman. Cook. Second Boyer.

3990
02:05:57,349 --> 02:05:58,950
Councilman. Boyer. Council

3991
02:05:58,950 --> 02:06:02,354
members cast your vote.

3992
02:06:02,354 --> 02:06:05,257
The voting is closed ten.

3993
02:06:05,257 --> 02:06:07,793
Yes. Zero. No resolution has

3994
02:06:07,793 --> 02:06:10,295
been approved. Questions or

3995
02:06:10,295 --> 02:06:15,367
comments on resolution E.

3996
02:06:15,367 --> 02:06:16,802
Seeing none. Most second to

3997
02:06:16,802 --> 02:06:19,337
introduce Kelly McCaskill a

3998
02:06:19,337 --> 02:06:20,806
second Wexler. Councilman

3999
02:06:20,806 --> 02:06:22,574
Wexler. All in favor? Aye. Any

4000
02:06:22,574 --> 02:06:23,976
opposed? Mr. O'Keefe?

4001
02:06:23,976 --> 02:06:26,978
Resolution 910 2026EA

4002
02:06:26,978 --> 02:06:28,246
resolution authorizing the

4003
02:06:28,246 --> 02:06:30,015
purchase of a new honor of new

4004
02:06:30,015 --> 02:06:31,717
honor guard uniforms and

4005
02:06:31,717 --> 02:06:33,185
accessories in an amount not to

4006
02:06:33,185 --> 02:06:35,287
exceed $25,000.

4007
02:06:35,287 --> 02:06:37,256
Thank you most for approval.

4008
02:06:37,256 --> 02:06:38,056
Cost Kelly..

4009
02:06:38,056 --> 02:06:39,758
Mr. Koskela, second. Second by

4010
02:06:39,758 --> 02:06:41,993
Councilman Wexler. Cast your

4011
02:06:41,993 --> 02:06:44,830
vote.

4012
02:06:44,830 --> 02:06:47,032
The voting is closed.

4013
02:06:47,032 --> 02:06:49,901
Ten. Yes, zero. No. Resolution

4014
02:06:49,901 --> 02:06:52,437
has been approved. Questions or

4015
02:06:52,437 --> 02:06:57,843
comments on resolution F.

4016
02:06:57,843 --> 02:07:00,011
Seeing. None. Motion to

4017
02:07:00,011 --> 02:07:01,847
introduce cost. Kelly. Was

4018
02:07:01,847 --> 02:07:03,582
McCaskill a second? Palmer by

4019
02:07:03,582 --> 02:07:05,784
Councilman Palmer. All in favor?

4020
02:07:05,784 --> 02:07:07,786
Any opposed?

4021
02:07:07,786 --> 02:07:10,455
Mr. O'Keefe. Resolution 910

4022
02:07:10,455 --> 02:07:13,091
2026FA resolution authorizing

4023
02:07:13,091 --> 02:07:14,392
an agreement with Charles E

4024
02:07:14,392 --> 02:07:16,361
General Contracting, providing

4025
02:07:16,361 --> 02:07:18,396
for chiller repairs the Justice

4026
02:07:18,396 --> 02:07:19,431
Center in an amount not to

4027
02:07:19,431 --> 02:07:24,103
exceed $23,168.

4028
02:07:24,103 --> 02:07:25,104
Motion for approval.

4029
02:07:25,104 --> 02:07:25,404
Costs.

4030
02:07:25,404 --> 02:07:26,572
Kelly has a second.

4031
02:07:26,572 --> 02:07:28,807
Yates.

4032
02:07:28,807 --> 02:07:30,909
Seconded by Councilman Yates,

4033
02:07:30,909 --> 02:07:34,513
cast your vote.

4034
02:07:34,513 --> 02:07:36,448
Voting is closed.

4035
02:07:36,448 --> 02:07:38,917
Ten. Yes. Zero. No. Resolution

4036
02:07:38,917 --> 02:07:41,520
F has been approved. No further.

4037
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:43,922
Business meeting adjourned at

4038
02:07:43,922 --> 02:08:06,044
903.