[1:53] ification. Well, there is no reference. 
Good evening everyone. Go ahead and call  
[1:59] the regular planning and zoning commission 
meeting for December 3rd, 2025 to order.
[2:07] Roll call. Kathy Bulan
[2:13] here. Capetta here. D Bernardo here. Hassan 
here. Memory here. Wilsack here. Control is  
[2:23] not here. We have a quorum. We have a quorum. 
First item on the agenda is the approval of the  
[2:34] minutes for the planning and zoning commission 
meeting on October 1st, 2025. Are there any  
[2:41] uh changes or corrections that are needed? 
There's one correction that Kathy is going  
[2:46] to add regarding my comment about the 50% 
masonry being inappropriate for the village.
[2:58] And uh I'd like to entertain a motion to 
modify the minutes as uh requested. Second.
[3:10] Roll call, please. Okay.
[3:15] Usually we don't do a roll call for that, 
but we can do voice vote. That's fine.  
[3:20] Okay. Voice. All in favor say I. I. I. I. 
No opposed. All right. If they'll uh Kathy,  
[3:30] if you'll amend the minutes and uh just make the 
comment that was asked for. And then we we and  
[3:36] then we would need a motion to approve the minutes 
from the October 1st, 2025 planning and zoning  
[3:42] commission meeting as modified. Sounds like a good 
plan. Let's make uh anybody want to make a motion  
[3:50] to I'll make the motion to approve the minutes 
as modifi with modifications for that meeting.  
[3:57] Second the motion. All in favor? I I any opposed? 
Hearing none. Uh the minutes the motion carries.
[4:11] We have no unfinished business. Um so we have one 
new business item. It's item 5A and that's for  
[4:19] 3118 White Oak Lane, the Plat of Consolidation. 
Rama, can you give us an overview? Good evening.  
[4:28] The owner of the property at 3118 White Oak Lane, 
it is requesting for the approval of a final plat  
[4:36] consolidate two existing uh lots into one. 
And the owner is here to answer any questions.
[4:47] If I could ask as a petitioner if you'll 
just speak into the microphone and state  
[4:51] your name and address. Hello, my name is Tim 
Kim. I'm the owner of 3118 in White Oak Lane.
[5:01] Thank you. Go ahead.
[5:06] No, I think it's a pretty straightforward 
request. The uh house is on lot one.  
[5:11] We would like to consolidate the two 
lots and build a pool on lot two.
[5:25] Is there currently um actually I see no member 
from the public so there's probably no open it up  
[5:31] to the commissioners. Any questions? Mr. Kim, do 
do you live in the house? I do. Okay. Thank you.
[5:43] This really does seem straightforward. It's, you 
know, he lives on one, he's going to consolidate  
[5:48] it with his back lot. It's going to eliminate 
a flag lot, which we're always more than  
[5:52] willing to get rid of. Nobody's, nobody's 
complaining. And when I looked at the map,  
[5:58] nobody could complain. There's just there's 
nothing that would be upsetting about this.  
[6:02] The pool is going to back up to 31st Street. So 
this this seems, you know, appropriate to me.
[6:14] Staff, were there any calls 
or comments from the None?
[6:21] Any other commissioners have 
anything to say? You know,  
[6:26] I I do have one more thing. There was something 
in the packet in the staff recommendation.  
[6:34] It said somewhere it said something like it 
appears to comply. Does that mean I just I  
[6:47] didn't like that sentence. It just made me feel 
like maybe yes, maybe no. Is there anything in  
[6:52] here? I'm trying to find where it was. Is 
there anything in here? It's on page six.  
[6:58] Yeah. The proposal appears to comply with the 
subdivision and zoning ordinance regulations.  
[7:03] Is there anything in here that 
appears not to comply? No. Okay.
[7:10] That was the only thing that 
really caught my attention.
[7:16] Were there any comments from the 
subdivision itself? Did they have any  
[7:21] uh comment about it? Um, not that I can recall.
[7:30] If if anybody wants to make a motion and second 
it. I'll make a motion to I don't like reading  
[7:35] this thing, but I will make a motion to 
approve the consolidation plat. I'll sec  
[7:43] second the motion. Do we want to add according 
to the final engineering review and approval and  
[7:50] uh recording of the document by 
village ar please? what Ken said.
[7:57] Eat Roco. D Bernardo. Nimry, yes. Capetta, 
yes. Bulan, yes. Hassan, yes. Wilsack,  
[8:06] yes. The motion carries. Uh would you advise 
the U petitioner of what the next step is?  
[8:16] This will be going to the next uh board 
meeting on January 13th for approval.
[8:23] Great. Thank you so much. You're welcome. 
Thank you. Good luck with the pool. [Applause]
[8:38] Uh Kathy Ramo, is there anything 
upcoming for the future meeting?  
[8:42] Uh I also wanted to update you regarding 
the um the 714 enterprise which uh came  
[8:49] to the planning and zoning commission 
for the approval of an event space.  
[8:52] So it did go to the board and uh it was 
not approved. It was not approved. No.
[9:04] Were they uh going to revisit anything or is 
it just uh No, they were just concerned about  
[9:10] the president that it would set. uh because 
it's an office buildings area and it's also  
[9:15] in an O1 district. So they were concerned about 
that and that's why they did not approve. No.
[9:25] And u we have uh one more uh project that's going 
to go to the board for a preliminary board review  
[9:32] that's uh on the 1900 spring, the northernmost lot 
uh where uh it's being presented for a 13-story  
[9:40] apartment building. And that will be on December 
9th. Is that the former McDonald's property? Um,  
[9:49] no. No. 1900. 1900 spring. It was the um 
previously approved as the Butler to be  
[9:57] called the Butler. Yes. Butler condominium. 
Oh yeah. It was a 22tory condominium building  
[10:01] originally. Correct. Correct. So that's 
not happening now. That's not happening.  
[10:05] But we have another proposal for a 13-story 
apartment building for an apartment building,  
[10:10] not a condo. Um likely to be converted probably. 
Okay. Um but yeah. And do you anticipate that in  
[10:19] the January meeting? Um that's in the December 
9th. So that's just a preliminary board review  
[10:24] and then they will uh refer it to the planning 
and zoning commission. Then it'll have to undergo  
[10:29] a plan development process. Thank you, Rama. 
Any other upcoming issues? Nope. That's all.  
[10:39] If nobody else has anything to say, I can we make 
a Can I talk about old business for a second? I'm  
[10:46] going to reiterate. Sure. Now I have something 
to read that will go maybe verbatim into the  
[10:53] minutes or close thereof. It is important to 
consistently bring poor political agendas to  
[11:00] light. The 50% masonry requirement of the 
village board insists on being part of the  
[11:06] newly adopted zoning ordinance is an overstep 
of aesthetic control that has no place in local  
[11:13] government. Oakbrook residential neighborhoods 
and the community as a whole have always been  
[11:18] at the forefront of tasteful development and 
architecture. It is unreasonable to dictate  
[11:24] a limited architectural style when so many good 
American architectural styles exist without the  
[11:30] use of masonry. Please remove this atrocious 
constraint on creativity from our progressive  
[11:37] yet conservative community. Thank you. Is 
that better? Anybody else have any comments?
[11:47] I would say one thing. Um, some subdivisions go 
far and uh above what the village requires. I  
[11:56] mean, in my particular subdivision, they 
dictate what kind of garage door you can  
[12:01] have. They dictate uh what kind of roof you 
can have. It's it's either got to be slate,  
[12:06] tile, or cedar shake. So, in that light, I just 
want to bring up some of these in some of these  
[12:13] subdivisions. It isn't the village, it's the 
individual subdivisions, architectural com  
[12:17] committee, not what uh Jeff was speaking to, 
but I just wanted to mention that that some  
[12:21] of these subdivisions even go far and beyond 
what the village does, but that's an HOA issue,  
[12:28] which is not a government body. I'm speaking about 
a government body, and it's inappropriate for a  
[12:34] government body to have that much aesthetic 
control. It didn't work in Oakbrook Mall.  
[12:40] It hasn't worked elsewhere. When Oakbrook Mall 
was created, if they had had these constraints,  
[12:45] who knows what we would have ended up with. And in 
turn, it's one of the best malls in the country.
[12:53] There's a lot of architects and designers 
that have spoke out against this requirement,  
[12:59] and there's statistics to show that this is a 
bad requirement based on architectural styles.  
[13:07] You can have some pretty atrocious 
looking things that are all masonry.
[13:18] If there are no additional comments, uh, I'd 
entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting.  
[13:22] So moved. Second the meet. Second motion. 
A motion has been made and seconded uh to  
[13:28] adjourn the meeting. May I have a voice vote? All 
in favor? I. Any oppose? Happy holidays. Day one.