[0:29] All right, let's come to order. [0:31] Already seems pretty orderly, but I'll hit the gavel here anyway. [0:37] This is the special, special called meeting of the Board of Commissioners for— [0:44] of the City of Oak Hill for August 19th, 2026. And we will begin with [0:51] 2026. And we will begin with introductions. [0:52] We have all the commissioners here, so we've got quorum. [0:57] Let's begin with introductions. [1:00] I'm Marshall Albritton, the city attorney. [1:04] Joy O'Dell, Commissioner. [1:05] David DeMarco, Commissioner. [1:07] Dale Grimes, Mayor. [1:09] Winston Evans, Commissioner. [1:11] Scott Price, Commissioner. [1:13] Steve Collie, City Manager. [1:15] Desiree Lohr, City Recorder. Okay, that's it. [1:18] All right, all right, [1:20] please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. [1:23] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of [1:29] America, And to the Republic for which it stands, [1:33] one nation under God, indivisible, [1:37] with liberty and justice for all. [1:40] All right, thank you. [1:42] Um, all right, Steve, [1:45] you have a next item is a presentation to [1:50] commissioners. [1:52] We have some presentations we want to do, and the first one is, um, uh, [1:57] a joint House Joint Resolution, and I'm going to read this, [2:01] and I would like for the commissioners to stand because this is for the [2:06] commissioners of the City of Oak Hill. So if you'll stand, I will read this. [2:12] So bear with me. There are some 14-letter words in here, so I'm going to do my best. [2:18] So if you all will stand, please. Yes, all of you stand, please. [2:23] Oh. [2:25] I don't want to. [2:26] Okay. [2:26] All right. State of Tennessee House of Representatives House Joint Resolution [2:32] Representatives House Joint Resolution Number [2:33] 1229 by Representative Hemmer and Senator Campbell. [2:37] A resolution to honor the City of Oak Hill's 4th of July celebration during [2:43] America's semi-quincentennial. [2:45] Whereas July 4th, 2026 marks the 250th anniversary or semi-quincentennial of the [2:51] adoption of the Declaration of Independence by the Second Continental [2:56] Independence by the Second Continental Congress in [2:57] Philadelphia in 1776, signifying the founding of the United States of America, [3:03] and whereas throughout 2 and a half centuries the American people have [3:09] centuries the American people have continued [3:10] striving to form a more perfect union, [3:13] advancing the promise of liberty through sacrifice, service, civic participation, [3:19] and commitment to constitutional principles. [3:22] And whereas the state of Tennessee and its citizens have contributed immeasurably to [3:29] the strength, character, defense, [3:31] prosperity of the United States through their leadership, innovation, [3:37] military service, and dedication to community and country. [3:41] And whereas the celebration will include a parade, a picnic, [3:46] and various family fun and games for the entire community. [3:51] Whereas the semi-quincentennial offers a historic opportunity for the reflection, [3:57] gratitude, education, [3:58] and renewed commitment of the ideas upon which this nation was founded, [4:04] be it resolved by those— [4:06] by the House of Representatives of the 114th General Assembly of the State of [4:12] Tennessee, the Senate concurring, [4:14] That we honor the City of Oak Hill's 4th of July celebration during America's [4:20] semi-quincentennial, extending our best wishes to host Robert Deal, [4:26] the commissioners, and the good people of the City of Oak Hill for a festive [4:32] memorial event. Adopted April 6th, 2026. [4:35] Signed by Speaker of the House Cameron Sexton, Speaker of the Senate Randy [4:41] Sexton, Speaker of the Senate Randy McNally, [4:41] and the Honorable Governor Lee. [4:44] And so I will present this to the commissioners if you all will gather for a [4:50] photograph. [4:50] Where are we going to gather? [4:55] You guys gathered by the flag? [4:57] Okay, yeah, so if you guys can kind of just kind of [5:02] form a semicircle there. [5:04] Yeah, here we go. [5:06] Let me, uh, yeah, I'll slide right in here. [5:10] All right, all right, so you guys get a hold of that. [5:15] Everybody in? [5:16] Everybody looks good. [5:20] All right, congratulations. [5:23] We will place this in an honorable position [5:27] here in the hall. [5:28] All right, very good. Thank you. [5:31] We should also thank the people who— Robert Deal, I'm glad he was mentioned, [5:36] and others who have organized that this year and in years past, [5:41] and the neighbors who live around Stonewall Drive and Clendenin, et cetera. [5:46] Mr. Mayor? [5:49] Yes, sir. [5:49] In the spirit of reciprocity, [5:53] maybe we should do a resolution congratulating the General [5:59] Assembly on the $1.2 billion Wow, [6:02] that's pretty impressive. Is that billion with a B? [6:08] With a B. [6:08] All right. Now— [6:14] And you have 2 presentations there. [6:16] Okay. [6:17] And now I have 2 presentations to make here. [6:22] And this is to our 2 outgoing commissioners. [6:26] We did have an election and we have 2 new commissioners who are going to [6:34] be joining us at our— later this month at the August 20th, [6:40] whatever the day is, 25th meeting, [6:43] which is when these 2 commissioners' terms will end. [6:48] And I think I'll I'll start with Ms. [6:52] O'Dell, Commissioner O'Dell, [6:55] who has served on the Commission for 6 years, [7:00] having agreed to be drafted and appointed to the Commission in 2020 to [7:07] fill an unexpired term, [7:09] and then in agreeing to run again or run in 2022 to serve a complete [7:16] term. I want to personally thank Joy for being our timekeeper, not by— [7:23] not so much by saying anything, [7:27] but by her expressions and her looks and her glancing up at the clock. [7:34] And we will miss that. Oh, I'm sure. [7:38] I will. [7:41] Yeah, right. But you, [7:42] you have been a trooper and you've been a vital part of the Commission for these 6 [7:48] years. So I want to thank you very much. [7:51] And, and with that, I'd like to present to you this certificate which says to— wait, [7:57] that's the wrong one. This is to— A certificate of appreciation. Appreciation. [8:03] Joy O'Dell, Commissioner, August 25, 2020 to August 25, 2026. Ironically. [8:08] In recognition of your selfless service to the Board of Commissioners and the City [8:14] of Oak Hill, your dedication, professionalism, high standards, [8:19] and spirits reflect greatly upon you. [8:22] Your hard work is essential to providing first-class safety and service to the [8:27] residents of Oak Hill. [8:29] The City of Oak Hill is proud and honored for your years of service and commitment. [8:35] Signed by the City Manager and by me. [8:38] Thank you. [8:40] And we also have a parting gift, and it's almost simulated Irish crystal. [8:45] And it says, to Joy O'Dell, Commissioner, [8:48] in grateful recognition of your service on the Board of Commissioners, August 25th, [8:55] 2020. to August 25th, 2026. [8:57] Your leadership, integrity, [8:59] steadfast dedication have made a lasting impact on our community. [9:04] And here's a— here's an oak tree for you. [9:07] That's gorgeous. Thank you. [9:10] All right, and the second certificate here is for Commissioner Scott Price. [9:17] Commissioner Price also was drafted to run, and he agreed to run, [9:24] and he ran well and won 4 years ago and has been a source of a great deal of [9:31] wisdom over the course of these last 4 years. [9:36] I don't know if anyone else is going to have quotes from James Madison or from [9:44] Cotton Mather or the Bible or whoever else you bring forward to sprinkle [9:51] throughout our proceedings. [9:54] But we'll miss that as well, [9:56] and we'll miss you as we'll miss Commissioner O'Dell. [10:02] So I want to thank you very much for your service, [10:07] and so I do have this certificate as well. [10:11] Mr. Mayor, I think we're forgetting something. [10:14] I think we should remember the The prior service by Commissioner Price at the [10:19] Planning Commission for many years in previous years, [10:23] and I forget how many years it is. [10:26] You remember? [10:29] 16. That's 22 years— 20 years of service, 2 decades. [10:36] Thank you. [10:36] It's an honor. [10:37] Okay. [10:38] And we have a parting gift also. This is for Scott Price, Commissioner. [10:43] In grateful recognition of your service on the Board of Commissioners from August [10:48] 23rd, 2022, August 25th, 2026, your leadership, integrity, [10:52] and steadfast dedication have made a lasting impact on our community. [10:56] And, and thank you for all your Madison quotes. [10:59] Thank you. [11:00] Thank you. [11:07] And he finished my Madison Quadrant, if you might remember. [11:12] All right, very good. So the next item on the agenda will be public comments. [11:18] And so if anyone wishes to come forward and make any public comments, [11:24] the podium is there. [11:26] And I ask you to come forward and state your name and your Your address. [11:32] And as you know, we do have the, the ordinance— [11:36] the fence ordinance is up for second reading and final passage today, or [11:42] reading and final passage today, or adoption, [11:42] I guess. And, um, so if you have comments on that, [11:46] even though we had a public hearing at the last meeting, um, this, [11:52] this gives you another time to say any last words that you want to before this— [11:59] the commissioners consider this on final passage. So anyone have any comments? [12:05] I do, but I'm signing the roll. [12:14] I'm Flynn Doyle. My address is 3545 Pleasant Valley Road. [12:17] First, I want to start off by thanking Joy and Scott for their service. [12:22] I have served on I've been on commissions before, and I know how much time it takes. [12:27] But it also goes without saying, thank you to the rest of y'all who are still on, [12:32] because I know that's still dedication and what all that means. [12:35] Speaking in opposition to anything makes it feel like it's contentious. [12:40] This isn't contentious, [12:41] because I know everybody that serves on the commission has the heart of Oak Hill— [12:46] that's why they're here serving— and the protection of Oak Hill in mind. [12:50] Thank you. [12:51] With that being said, [12:53] and I do appreciate I have expressed some concerns via email and have been unable to [12:58] attend other meetings, and I apologize for coming late to the table, you might say. [13:04] But the responses that I have given were appreciated. [13:07] But I still have one issue that remains, [13:10] because I do think some things were taken into consideration in the last and some [13:15] changes made. [13:16] Yes. [13:17] And may have been during a public hearing understood better, [13:21] but not having participated in those, I apologize, [13:25] of prohibiting fences in the front yards of districts, some districts, [13:30] but not all districts. [13:31] And living in a district that a front yard fence is prohibited, [13:35] those yards are smaller, [13:37] could drive a need for a family to need a fence in a front yard to participate Fully [13:42] with their kids or their animals, [13:45] protecting them from the street and those kind of things. [13:48] And so it seems to me that a consideration should be given for those smaller lots in [13:54] those zones who might have those issues. [13:57] I know it seems that part of the issues that were driven was by a large privacy [14:02] fence that created a safety hazard in a shared driveway. [14:06] That was clearly Taken care of in here. [14:08] But it seems to me fences that are being allowed in other parts of the city [14:13] allowed in other parts of the city wouldn't [14:14] create those kind of problems because y'all have done such a good job of [14:19] y'all have done such a good job of drafting [14:19] this legislation. So I don't know. [14:22] I guess I would challenge y'all to reconsider the exclusion. [14:26] And this is coming from a homeowner who has a fence, who has— [14:30] didn't fence his front yard, but strongly considered that. [14:34] Thank you. [14:35] For the need of grandchildren and dogs that might allow me to better fully [14:40] that might allow me to better fully utilize [14:40] my yard. And with a nonconforming lot that I have, [14:43] makes me basically have an English garden style backyard, [14:47] which was a big part of my consideration. [14:49] I think we also need to always consider when we're passing laws that it creates an [14:54] undue burden to try to get variances from homeowners to try to justify why they need [14:59] what they need. When they've been longtime homeowners. [15:03] And it also creates an undue burden, I think, [15:06] on these boards and on the city itself to try to deal with all those kind of things. [15:11] So I think in passing any legislation, [15:13] we should always be trying to figure out ways to not have to encourage people to go [15:18] get variances to accomplish and live a full life here in the city of Oak Hill [15:23] full life here in the city of Oak Hill with [15:23] their families in different stages of their life. So I just appreciate that. [15:28] I want that to be taken into consideration. [15:31] I know I'm late to the game and I apologize. [15:33] Okay. [15:35] Thank you for your comments. [15:37] Anyone else like to make a public comment on the fence or anything else? [15:41] Good afternoon. My name is Tanisha Hartlove and I reside at 5215 Franklin [15:46] Hartlove and I reside at 5215 Franklin Pike. [15:47] And I am very, very new to the neighborhood. [15:50] I'm sorry, I didn't realize the protocol when I spoke out. Just a second ago. [15:55] I have not completely read through the ordinance, so if I speak, [15:59] I may need some points of clarification. [16:02] But I will tell you, the thing that drew me to Oak Hill, of course, [16:06] was the beauty of the trees and of the lots and of being close to the city. [16:11] What I didn't know and what I never wanted was to live in a subdivision, [16:16] and so I didn't want to move to an area of town in Davidson County that would be [16:22] treated like a subdivision. Of course, I know there has to be rules and [16:27] know there has to be rules and regulations. [16:27] I'm an attorney of 24-plus years, and there has to be rules and regulations. [16:33] We don't want 20-foot fences. [16:35] But I do think that there is some beauty in having some individuality amongst the [16:40] landscapes that everyone has. [16:42] My husband and I are in the process right now And we have been permitted, [16:47] thank goodness, but we have not finished our fix. And it staggers and stair-steps. [16:53] And in some areas, we've been told that we're going to have to remove some of [16:58] we're going to have to remove some of those [16:58] areas so that it comes into compliance with being at least under 6 feet. [17:03] I wish that we had known sooner about this ordinance. [17:07] I think we will be okay since we're grandfathered in, [17:10] since we do have the permit as of today. [17:13] Thank you. [17:14] But there are some newcomers to the area, and they're not coming like me. [17:18] I'm not coming to make trouble, but I did not move to a suburb. [17:22] I didn't move to a place that has a homeowners association because I did want [17:26] homeowners association because I did want a [17:26] little bit of autonomy to create the type of home that I want to live in. [17:31] And so I would hope that that would be considered. [17:33] I don't know if this has already been asked and answered or debated ad nauseam, [17:38] but that is an issue that— [17:40] Thank you. [17:40] is important to me. Also, hearing the last presenter's— what he had to say, [17:45] I think it is important that, yes, trees and our canopy is important, but for me, [17:51] people are also important. [17:53] And our pets are an extension of our family, and they are important. [17:58] And so if we are going to treat certain homes a certain way, [18:02] we should treat all homes that same way. [18:04] I think that there is I think that there is a need for the fronts of yards to be [18:10] fenced in if you have children, especially small children, or if you have animals. [18:16] And so I would hope that that also would be taken into consideration today, [18:21] that that be allowed for everyone regardless of where you reside to be able [18:26] regardless of where you reside to be able to have [18:27] a front fence. For me, consistency across the board is key. [18:31] Thank you. [18:32] Because we never want to be in the position again to treat some people [18:36] position again to treat some people certain ways [18:37] and other people another way. Thank you. [18:39] Thank you for your comments. [18:43] Other commenters? Anyone wish to come [18:48] forward? [18:49] All right. [18:58] Mayor Coles. [18:59] Ron Coles, live at 1045 Gateway Lane, [19:02] and like to say thanks again to Commissioner O'Dell, [19:05] Commissioner Price for their service, and to all y'all really. [19:09] And I know you've been working on, you know, the fence ordinance for months, [19:14] and there's been a lot of public input, [19:17] and appreciate you listening to all these different concerns and then doing what's [19:22] in the best interest of the city as a whole. [19:25] And my good friend Flynn there, I mean, [19:28] we live in a society today where sometimes people can't disagree without, you know, [19:33] really feeling opposed. [19:35] So if I disagree, I respect y'all's opinions, [19:38] but have a different opinion on the fences. [19:41] The zones A, B, and C are the smaller lots, and D, E, and F are larger, [19:45] and generally along Franklin Road and some on Times. [19:49] Yes. [19:51] So anyway, I agree with the— what you have drafted, what passed on first reading. [19:56] I think you've done a wonderful job trying to get community consensus, [20:01] which doesn't mean unanimity, it means consensus. [20:04] So thank you, and I hope you'll pass what you've got drafted. [20:08] And if people do have exceptions, [20:10] you can go to the Board of Zoning Appeals for those special exceptions. [20:15] Thank you. [20:15] with the hardship. But hope you'll pass what you've got on second reading, [20:19] and thanks again very much for, for what you've done. Thanks. [20:23] Thank you for those comments. [20:28] All right, not to be redundant, but to be redundant, I'm Trevor Howell, [20:35] reside at 4721 Suwannee Road. [20:38] Oak Hill, Tennessee, and I am not on the fence with respect to this issue. [20:45] I thought a little humor may be called for. [20:49] Can we quote you on that? [20:50] Yes, please do, in the Greenhills newspaper. [20:54] But I am speaking here right now at this podium in affirmation for what you have [21:01] done as a Commission. [21:03] To reiterate what Ron said just a few minutes ago, You've done an expert job. [21:10] You've done way beyond what's called of you in study and in research to hopefully [21:18] answer not everybody's desires, but generally the community. [21:23] And we've seen a lot of people come out here, uh, [21:27] in favor of this adoption of this second reading of the first reading, [21:34] and I too concur with the motion to adopt this second reading of this ordinance as [21:41] a law in the City of Oak Hill. [21:44] And thank you so much for all of your earnest and hard work. [21:49] Thank you for those comments. Anyone else wish to comment? [22:00] All right. [22:02] I see no one else coming forward, so there's your chance. [22:07] Uh, all right, so we'll, we'll close the public comments. [22:12] Um, and the next item of business is to consider for adoption on second reading [22:19] Ordinance 2026-05, an ordinance of the City of Oak Hill, Tennessee, [22:24] amending the Municipal Code, Chapter 14, Zoning and Land Use Control, [22:30] Section 14-123, Walls, Gatehouses, Entry Monuments, and Gates. [22:36] So that is the next item. Is there a motion to approve that on second reading? [22:42] So moved. [22:43] All right. Is there a second? [22:49] Second by Evans. [22:53] Okay. [22:53] All right, let's have any discussion. Anybody wish to discuss? [22:57] I, I would like to— this is O'Dell, [22:59] and I would like to say that this is not a perfect document, [23:03] but we have been working on it for a year and a half, [23:06] and we've had such great communications with the neighbors who have come and [23:11] expressed their concerns. [23:13] And while this is not perfect, this is I think that's a good compromise. [23:17] And if it needs to be tweaked later on, [23:20] there's a new Commission coming in and I hope they will do so. [23:24] Okay. Thank you for that. Anyone else? [23:29] Commissioner DeMarco. [23:30] Yeah, I will say the original draft allowed fences in the front yard and we [23:37] had an overwhelming response against that, against fences in the front yard. [23:44] And we had hundreds of responses. [23:47] I think there was a petition with over— was it 100 or 200 signatures on it? [23:54] And then just a ton of people stated they were against them. [24:00] And most of those people, when asked, [24:03] said they were okay with the ones along Franklin Road that were open and on [24:10] the larger lots. So we made those changes. All right. Anything else? No. [24:17] Okay. All right. Commissioner DeMarco and Commissioner [24:22] Price, do you have anything to say? Commissioner Evans? [24:27] I think Commissioner DeMarco and Commissioner O'Dell have already said what [24:33] Commissioner O'Dell have already said what needs to [24:34] I think there's one thing that has to be said, which is it's a good compromise. [24:40] And we have different opinions on many things, [24:43] but I think it's a reasonable compromise. [24:46] We can't make— unfortunately, we can't make everybody happy. [24:51] And so we have to do something to preserve the character of this community. [24:57] And I think it's for the better of the overall common good that we arrive and All [25:03] right. [25:08] Thank you. Anybody, anything else? Well, this is Grimes. [25:13] I will— first of all, I want to say I agree with my fellow Commissioners here, [25:19] and believe me, this is a compromise. [25:23] This has been through so many iterations and so many different versions. [25:29] And we've had so many meetings at which, you know, [25:33] I think this has probably stirred— [25:36] this has probably been one of the most commented on pieces of legislation that [25:43] commented on pieces of legislation that we've [25:43] had in the last 6 years. And, you know, and I understand that. [25:49] And at the same time, I hear what Mr. Doyle said. [25:53] Yes. [25:53] And I can understand that point of view as well. [25:57] And, you know, of course, [25:59] you do have recourse if you need to build a fence in the front yard immediately. [26:04] Our first house in Oak Hill had what probably would not be allowed anymore. [26:10] It was a split rail fence that during our 13 years of living— [26:14] that just went along the very front along the street. [26:19] Yes. [26:19] Over that period of time, it mostly fell down. [26:23] And I think that's probably from my sons playing on it. [26:28] It didn't keep them in very well, I'll say that. [26:31] But I think that, you know, [26:34] maybe it would be worth some future meeting to consider whether smaller lots, [26:40] you know, A, B and C are very different. [26:43] A is a quarter acre, B is a half acre, and C is 1 acre. [26:48] And most of the lots in Oak Hill are 1 acre. [26:51] So that— and it was mainly perhaps the people in the 1 acres, but not entirely. [26:58] I think there were people from other smaller lots who were also saying that [27:04] smaller lots who were also saying that they did [27:05] not want to have fences in the front yard. So we have done the best we could. [27:11] I need to thank Commissioner Evans for starting us out on this process. [27:17] this and, and having the pen to make revisions throughout. [27:22] And I'm in favor of this, of this ordinance, and we'll be voting in favor. [27:28] So anybody else have anything else? All right, shall we move the question? [27:34] We're ready to vote? Anybody? Okay. [27:37] All right. [27:38] All in favor of passing or adopting on second reading Ordinance 2026-05, [27:44] an ordinance of the City of Oak Hill, Tennessee, amending the Municipal Code, [27:50] Chapter 14, Zoning and Land Use Control, Section 14-123, Walls, Gatehouses, [27:55] Entry Monuments and Gates? [27:57] Mr. Mayor? [27:59] Yes, sir. [27:59] And we need to do a roll call vote so we can get names and votes. [28:04] Oh, okay. [28:05] Oh, that's right. [28:06] Yeah, okay. Yeah, um, okay. Yeah, um, all right, so we'll begin. [28:14] Commissioner O'Dell, aye. [28:17] DeMarco, aye. [28:19] Grimes, aye. [28:20] Evans, aye. [28:22] Price, nay. [28:23] All right, so we have 4 to 1 and the ordinance is adopted. [28:28] And will become part of our Code of Ordinances. [28:32] And I thank everybody who came today, everybody who came at past meetings. [28:37] All of the input has been very helpful. [28:40] And, you know, we've— as a lawyer, [28:43] I've been told for years that if you come to a settlement that neither party is [28:49] happy with, then you've probably got a good settlement. [28:54] I don't know if that really holds true, but Uh, that's kind of where we are, [29:00] and I hope that there's enough in here that people like, uh, that everybody [29:06] that people like, uh, that everybody likes, [29:06] that, uh, that they'll be satisfied with this for a while. So thank you. [29:12] Um, and the next item on the agenda, uh, [29:15] is the annual evaluation and performance review of the city manager. [29:20] Um, so now this is This is one of those tricky things here that we have to do in [29:27] public, which is, to my mind, completely absurd. But that's the law in Tennessee. [29:33] It's not the law in other states, just so you know, [29:37] that have their own Sunshine Laws. [29:40] But maybe that's the piece of legislation I ought to write. [29:45] That's right. TML is looking for suggestions. [29:49] Yeah, yeah, let's amend that. [29:50] I'll help you write that one. [29:52] Okay. [29:53] Yeah. [29:54] Um, so, um, Steve, did you get your review? [29:59] I did. I had— I got it. [30:00] Okay, good. I want to make sure, and, and all the commissioners, you guys— [30:06] the process here was that, um, the, um, someone from the, um, [30:11] MTAS organization over at UT provided us with a form with questions to answer in [30:17] just checkmark form, whether somebody is— needs improvement, [30:22] whether they're performing to expectations, [30:25] or whether they're exceeding expectations, [30:29] which I know we've all seen that kind of form. [30:32] And then there were also narrative questions to be answered as a— [30:38] in Yes. [30:39] So all the Commissioners filled those out. [30:43] We sent them individually back to the person at MTAS who compiled those for us [30:50] person at MTAS who compiled those for us and [30:50] then sent them back to me to put them in final form, I guess. [30:55] And I can't say that I'm totally satisfied with the final product. [31:01] I'm not familiar with the form or the particular process, [31:06] but I am satisfied that it's come out with a good result. [31:11] And you've seen it, all the Commissioners have seen it. [31:16] No one has made any comments to me about what ultimately came from the tabulation. [31:24] And so I think that in my, in my view, it's a good review. [31:29] I will say for the record, there was absolutely nothing that was, [31:34] that needed improvement. So no, no needs improvement. [31:39] There was a— there were some people who gave exceeds expectations on things that [31:46] others said meets expectations. [31:49] And, you know, that's just like any kind of evaluation in the employment place. [31:56] I've done that for years with associates in law firms and in my law firm, [32:02] and I know that there are hard graders and there are easy graders. [32:08] And so, you know, since we don't have anything to go by except our own— well, [32:15] that's what we think, that's what I think— and we can't talk about it, [32:21] and Except right here. [32:25] So highly subjective. [32:26] It's very subjective. It's very subjective. [32:29] So I think that, you know, what I would say, Steve, [32:33] is that regardless of all those questions, [32:36] and none of them really specifically asked about, to my mind, [32:41] the things that you exceeded doubly and triply on this last year, [32:46] and that would be primarily Dealing with the ice storm and the aftermath and the [32:52] cleanup and all of that, Steve was an integral part of everything that was done, [32:58] directing everything that was going on in Oak Hill, [33:02] except what NES was doing or not doing. [33:05] But anyway, Steve, it's, it's been a, it's been a tough year. It's been a big year. [33:11] We We had good financial results, [33:14] but we also had to borrow a lot of money from our savings account to pay for that [33:20] cleanup, but that's just what it cost. [33:23] And I just want to tell you that I appreciate what you have done this year [33:29] appreciate what you have done this year and in [33:29] years past, and you do an excellent job. [33:32] I will continue to strive in my process of mediocrity in order to find success. [33:42] I don't think that applies at all. [33:46] I've been working on that a little bit. [33:49] Does anyone else wish to say anything? [33:53] I think I speak for the Commission in what I [33:58] just said. [33:59] You do. [34:00] Yes, I don't think that any city manager in the No one in the history of Oak Hill [34:05] has had to deal with the magnitude of issues he has. [34:09] The pandemic funds that we used for stormwater improvement was $2 million. [34:13] We have a normal budget of about $3 million, [34:16] and then we had $2 million of stormwater improvements from pandemic money. [34:21] Much of that was wrapped— well, I guess all of it was wrapped up this past year, [34:26] but most of it was done in this past year. [34:29] Yeah. [34:29] It was numerous projects. It took a lot of management. [34:33] And then the $3 million— what's the final number on that? [34:36] $3.5 million. [34:38] $3.5 million. So, you know, that's more than double the budget, those 2 items. [34:45] And it's just while managing everything else very well. [34:50] Citizens' comments, complaints, and, you know, all the zoning issues, [34:56] All the permits, highest rate of permits ever, I think, certainly in dollars. [35:03] You know, so he's just— and he's managed it all very well. [35:09] All right. Anybody else have anything? [35:15] Thank you. [35:18] Okay. So it remains for us now to provide a percentage for the bonus. [35:25] And let's see, actually, I did not bring any extra paper here with me. [35:31] I guess I can tear a page out. [35:33] But if everybody can just write on their— on a piece of paper and hand it to me, [35:40] the percentage. [35:42] And that— [35:42] oh, good. Desiree, always on top of things. [35:46] Always, always here. [35:48] Thank you, Mr. President. [35:49] What's the range of— [35:52] The range is 10% to 18%. [35:54] Yeah, those sheets of paper will not accept anything but an 18. [36:01] That's why we had these— that's why we handed those out to you. [36:08] But they don't— it's not written on there yet. And, and Oh, okay, thank you. [36:14] Um, and, um, we, uh, also, Steve, [36:17] none of this is going to affect the budget because the budget has the maximum [36:23] already built into it. So if we do less than the maximum, then that just— [36:30] that's just— [36:30] it just comes out of the fund balance. Yeah, yeah. So, so, okay. [36:35] Is that F-U-N or F-U-N? [36:40] Thank you. All right. [36:44] Now, who is— well, that looks good. [36:51] Okay. All right. David, [36:56] these are only double-digit numbers, [37:03] so you'd think I could do it in my [37:10] head, but I'm afraid to. [37:15] Why don't you have David do it? [37:16] David can put it in a spreadsheet over there. [37:18] Yeah, we don't need a spreadsheet. [37:23] We don't need that. Here, [37:27] we'll just do this real quickly. [37:32] So You know, like in Conclave, [37:37] we could have had y'all each come up one at a [37:44] time and put it in a gold basin or something [37:51] here. [37:51] Got it smoking upstairs. [37:58] No way. I mean, I can't even do this. Let's just spread these out. [38:27] Okay. [38:30] All right. It comes out to 17%. [38:32] Okay. [38:35] So I think someone should move to make that the number and second, [38:39] and then everybody vote, because that would be the public decision. [38:42] Very good. [38:45] Very good. [38:46] Is there a motion to To approve the consensus here of 17%. [38:50] DeMarco— oh, Price moved first. I'll move to second. [38:56] All right. [38:57] Price moved and DeMarco seconds. [39:00] All in favor, please say aye. [39:03] And we'll begin down there. [39:06] Aye. [39:07] Aye. [39:07] Aye. [39:08] Aye. [39:09] Grimes. [39:13] Aye. [39:13] Aye. Evans. [39:14] Aye. [39:15] Price. [39:15] All right, thank you very much and congratulations on a great year. [39:21] Thank you. Appreciate all the support. [39:23] It was an unusual year. [39:26] It would have been unusual if we didn't have the reserves to fall back on. [39:30] We would have been still picking up debris. [39:33] Worse than unusual. [39:34] We would have been out there picking it up. [39:36] That's right. We wouldn't, we wouldn't be having a special meeting. [39:40] We'd be having a volunteer pickup. [39:42] Those reserves, they are critical. [39:45] Reserves are critical to the City of Oak Hill, [39:48] and we've got to replenish what we took out. [39:52] So, all right, that concludes the business that's on the agenda. [39:57] Does anybody have anything else for the good of the body here? [40:02] And seeing none, we are adjourned. Wait a minute. What? What am I forgetting? [40:09] That we have several items for discussion. [40:14] That's the workshop. [40:16] That's the workshop. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. [40:19] This is a special called board meeting that is now adjourned. You're right. [40:24] All right. [40:25] Thank you, everybody, for coming. [40:38] Hope you enjoy living in Oak Hill. [40:41] Welcome. [40:42] All right, let's see, um, [40:47] we can go straight into the [40:52] meeting. [40:54] You'll take a— you'll take a 5 minutes? [40:55] We can take 5