[0:11] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay, it is
[0:11] 7:01 pm.
[0:12] This is absolutely glorious to
[0:15] see you all here.
[0:15] Amazing.
[0:16] This should be every single
[0:20] meeting, but I am grateful that
[0:20] you came out.
[0:21] Yes!
[0:32] [Applause]
[0:33] Truly beautiful.
[0:34] With that, I would like to
[0:35] officially call this meeting of
[0:36] the village board to order.
[0:37] Clerk waters, please take the
[0:38] roll.
[0:42] >> trustee buchanan is absent.
[0:43] Trustee enyia.
[0:44] >> here.
[0:44] >> trustee parakkat.
[0:45] >> here.
[0:46] >> trustee robinson.
[0:47] >> here.
[0:52] >> trustee straw.
[0:53] >> here.
[0:54] >> trustee wesley.
[0:55] >> here.
[0:55] >> PRESIDENT Scaman.
[0:57] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: here.
[0:58] Okay, I would entertain a
[1:03] motion to approve the agenda as
[1:04] presented this evening?
[1:04] >> so moved.
[1:06] >> second.
[1:06] Scaman: all I favor?
[1:07] >> aye.
[1:14] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: excellent.
[1:15] A motion to approve minutes
[1:16] from the MARCH 4, 25 regular
[1:17] meeting of the village board.
[1:18] >> so moved.
[1:19] >> second.
[1:20] >> motion by trustee wesley and
[1:21] seconded by trustee straw.
[1:21] All in favor?
[1:25] >> aye.
[1:26] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: hearing no
[1:28] nay's, the meeting minutes are
[1:29] approved.
[1:35] we have public comment this
[1:36] evening?
[1:36] >>clerk: we do.
[1:37] It is for an agenda item.
[1:39] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: are there
[1:40] any non-agenda public comment
[1:41] this evening?
[1:42] Thank you.
[1:43] So we will not read all of
[1:44] these proclamations, but the
[1:49] most important ones-they are
[1:49] all important ones.
[1:50] I would entertain a motion to
[1:51] approve a proclamation honoring
[1:54] fire chief ronald kobeleski, in
[2:00] honor of his retirement.
[2:00] >> so moved.
[2:02] >> second
[2:08] [Applause]
[2:09] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: wo was the
[2:12] motion and the second?
[2:16] Trustee robinson and trustee
[2:16] wesley.
[2:17] So we will read the
[2:19] proclamation, if you want to
[2:24] step up so we can have you-
[2:26] show our full appreciation for
[2:29] your 40 years of service.
[2:31] >>chief kobyleski: thank you,
[2:44] thank you.
[2:46] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: in oak
[2:51] park, are you sure?
[2:52] Okay.
[2:56] >> whereas, fire chief ronald
[2:57] kobyleski will retire
[2:58] officially on MAY 10, 2025,
[3:01] after more than 40 years of
[3:02] outstanding and meritorious
[3:03] service to the residents of the
[3:05] village of oak park; and
[3:06] .
[3:07] >>trustee enyia: whereas, chief
[3:09] kobyleski began his public
[3:10] service career with the village
[3:13] of oak park in 1985 as a
[3:16] firefighter/emt and through
[3:18] hard work, meritorious service
[3:19] and leadership, rose through
[3:23] the ranks to serve as a
[3:24] lieutenant, lieutenant of
[3:26] training, battalion chief and
[3:28] deputy chief before reaching
[3:32] his final and most important
[3:33] position of oak park's fire
[3:34] chief on NOVEMBER 22nd, 2021;
[3:42] and
[3:42] .
[3:43] >>trustee straw: whereas,
[3:44] during his tenure, chief
[3:46] kobyleski has demonstrated
[3:46] exceptional leadership,
[3:47] unwavering dedication and a
[3:48] profound commitment to the
[3:49] well-being of the village of
[3:53] oak park; and
[3:53] .
[3:54] >>trustee robinson: whereas,
[3:55] throughout his five decades of
[3:56] service chief kobyleski hs
[3:58] served as a certified fire
[3:59] investigator,
[4:01] hazardous-materials technician
[4:02] and technical rescue specialist
[4:03] in building collapse, high-rise
[4:06] rescue, trench rescue and
[4:09] confined-space rescue, also
[4:11] creating the mutual aid box
[4:13] alarm system technical rescue
[4:14] team, while leading them for
[4:24] nine years; and
[4:24] .
[4:25] >>trustee wesley: whereas,
[4:26] chief kobyleski is certified as
[4:27] advance fire officer and
[4:29] training program manager and he
[4:31] has been affiliated with the
[4:32] international fire chief's
[4:33] association, illinois fire
[4:35] chief's association and the
[4:36] national fire protection
[4:40] association; and
[4:41] .
[4:42] >>trustee parakkat: whereas,
[4:43] chief kobyleski has led the oak
[4:45] park fire department to make
[4:47] great strides in providing
[4:48] accommodations for all genders
[4:49] and sexual orientations by
[4:50] enclosing the sleeping quarters
[4:53] at two of its stations and
[4:54] reimaging and modernizing
[5:00] washroom and locker facilities.
[5:02] >>village manager: whereas,
[5:08] chief kobyleski's dedication to
[5:09] the safety and welfare of oak
[5:10] park's residents and visitors,
[5:11] as well as the women and men of
[5:13] the oak park fire department,
[5:14] has earned him the respect and
[5:16] admiration of his colleagues,
[5:17] community leaders and the
[5:19] entire village of oak park.
[5:20] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: now,
[5:21] therefore, be it resolved, by
[5:22] the board of trustees of the
[5:23] village of oak park, cook
[5:25] county, illinois that we take
[5:28] this opportunity to express our
[5:29] sincere and grateful
[5:31] appreciation and hereby extend
[5:33] our congratulations to fire
[5:36] chief ron kobyleski on his
[5:39] well-earned retirement and our
[5:40] best wishes to him for
[5:41] continued success and happiness
[5:48] in the years to come.
[6:06] [Applause]
[6:16] [Standing applause]
[6:24] >>chief kobyleski: thank you
[6:24] all.
[6:25] It is a very humbling.
[6:28] Especially when it is read like
[6:28] that.
[6:29] I have to say thank you to the
[6:37] village board for supporting
[6:38] the fire department mission for
[6:39] all of these years and to the
[6:40] public.
[6:41] They have always rallied on our
[6:41] side.
[6:42] Always come to our aid when we
[6:43] need their help and I
[6:44] appreciate that.
[6:46] It has been a fantastic 40
[6:47] years.
[6:48] I was not kidding when I said
[6:49] it goes by quick.
[6:52] I remember my first day like it
[6:54] was yesterday and it has been
[6:54] an experience.
[6:58] i cannot even tell you.
[6:59] I really appreciate everybody
[7:02] who came out here for me.
[7:04] My wife, former member-
[7:14] (Speaker away from mic).
[8:31] Thank you.
[9:11] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[9:14] you, chief!
[9:16] We have a month or so to drop
[9:17] by the station and assure our
[9:18] regards.
[9:19] We very much appreciate you and
[9:20] wish you all the best in
[9:23] retirement.
[9:23] All in favor?
[9:27] >> aye.
[9:28] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
[9:32] approve a proclamation for
[9:32] arbor day, APRIL 25, 2025.
[9:33] >> so moved.
[9:35] >> second.
[9:36] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay.
[9:37] Many of these motions are going
[9:40] to be honored more so in the
[9:42] month of APRIL with events and
[9:43] more information.
[9:45] There is a video of this one on
[9:46] the website and as we get
[9:50] closer to the date we will be
[9:56] publicizing it more.
[9:57] Thank you.
[9:57] All in favor?
[9:58] >> aye.
[9:59] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
[10:00] approve a proclamation
[10:13] designating APRIL 21 of 2025 as
[10:15] national community development
[10:15] week.
[10:16] Motion, please?
[10:16] >> so moved.
[10:17] >> second.
[10:18] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[10:19] favor?
[10:19] >> aye.
[10:20] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[10:21] you.
[10:21] Again the same.
[10:21] Motion to approve a
[10:23] proclamation for black maternal
[10:23] health week of APRIL 11-17,
[10:24] 2025.
[10:24] >> so moved.
[10:25] >> second.
[10:27] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[10:28] you.
[10:28] Clerk waters has read this one
[10:29] unto the record on the website
[10:30] and so let's please I'll check
[10:38] that t and again, we will do a
[10:39] great deal more that week in
[10:39] APRIL.
[10:39] At thank you.
[10:40] All in favor?
[10:40] >> aye.
[10:54] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: yes!
[10:55] Also a special thank you to
[11:00] clerk waters for bringing us
[11:01] that proclamation.
[11:01] Yes.
[11:11] [Applause]
[11:12] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: motion to
[11:13] approve a proclamation of
[11:14] arab-american heritage month
[11:15] 2025 and I have asked trustee
[11:16] parakkat if he would please
[11:17] read this aloud.
[11:18] Motion, please.
[11:18] >> so moved.
[11:19] >> second.
[11:20] Scaman: at thank you.
[11:24] >>trustee parakkat:
[11:25] arab-american heritage month,
[11:26] APRIL 2025.
[11:27] Whereas, the village of oak
[11:28] park is committed to fostering
[11:38] a community that is welcoming,
[11:39] -- arab-americans in our
[11:41] country come from a variety of
[11:41] natures, cultures, and faith
[11:42] backgrounds, and from one of 22
[11:45] arabic-speaking countries,
[11:46] infusing resilient values,
[11:47] strong work ethic, dedication
[11:48] to education and diversity; and
[11:49] whereas, the diversity of oak
[11:51] park is a constant source of
[11:52] strength and enrichment for our
[11:55] community and this month we
[11:58] recognize and celebrate the
[11:59] vibrant arab american
[12:01] community, its history, culture
[12:03] and achievement in oak park and
[12:09] around the country; and
[12:10] whereas, proclaiming
[12:11] arab-american heritage month in
[12:13] oak park serves to promote
[12:14] understanding, appreciation and
[12:15] respect for the contributions
[12:17] and experiences of
[12:18] arab-american people, while
[12:19] also celebrating their
[12:20] heritage, culture and
[12:21] successes; and
[12:23] whereas, while arab american
[12:24] heritage month occurs during
[12:26] APRIL, we recognize the rich
[12:27] culture shared by arab
[12:29] americans makes a positive
[12:31] impact in our community
[12:35] throughout the entire year; and
[12:37] whereas, we take time to pause
[12:39] and reflect on the pain being
[12:40] felt by arab americans and
[12:42] arabs around the world as a
[12:44] result of the ongoing conflict
[12:46] in gaza. We know the gravity of
[12:47] the situation affects many
[12:50] around the globe; and
[12:52] whereas, we have heard from and
[12:53] affirm the many local voices
[12:55] that have spoken to raise our
[12:57] collective awareness of these
[13:02] heartbreaking events over the
[13:15] last several months. Now more
[13:16] than ever, it is imperative
[13:17] that we come together in
[13:17] solidarity and show compassion
[13:18] to one another in the midst of
[13:19] adversity. In doing so, we
[13:20] shall reiterate our commitment
[13:21] to empathy and open dialogue as
[13:22] we strive for peace and justice
[13:23] both locally and around the
[13:28] world. Whereas, the village of
[13:34] oak park is excited to --
[13:36] 2025, honoring the rich
[13:38] cultural traditions, history
[13:39] and contributions of
[13:40] arab-american's.
[13:46] The celebration will feature an
[13:47] array of educational and
[13:49] cultural experiences, including
[13:50] live music, traditional dance,
[13:52] food, and art, calligraphy and
[13:52] cultural displays.
[13:56] Selecting the vibrancy and
[13:57] diversity of the arab-american
[13:58] community and fostering the
[13:59] great understanding and
[14:02] inclusion throughout the
[14:02] village.
[14:04] Be it resolved that the village
[14:05] of oak park supports the
[14:06] celebration of arab-american
[14:10] heritage month, and now,
[14:11] therefore, I, ravi parakkat, on
[14:12] behalf of vicki scaman,
[14:13] PRESIDENT Of the village of oak
[14:14] park and the board of trustees,
[14:15] do hereby proclaim APRIL as the
[14:16] month of our arab-american
[14:17] heritage month celebration and
[14:19] encourage all residents to join
[14:20] us in embracing the enrichment
[14:21] that their cultures bring to
[14:22] our lives. Let us come together
[14:23] as a community to celebrate
[14:23] arab-american heritage month,
[14:24] honoring our shared values of
[14:25] inclusivity and cultural
[14:38] appreciation. Dated this 18th
[14:39] day of MARCH, 2025.
[14:40] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[14:48] you. >>PRESIDENT Scaman:
[14:55] thank you.
[14:56] Maybe we can have an all in
[14:56] favor?
[14:56] >> aye.
[14:58] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: just a
[14:59] moment of silence for the
[15:02] devastation in gaza and israel
[15:28] right now.
[15:29] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: I think you
[15:30] as this continues to weigh
[15:35] heavy on our hearts.
[15:36] I would entertain a motion to
[15:37] approve a proclamation of
[15:45] national public health week for
[15:46] APRIL 7-13th of 2025.
[15:47] >> so moved.
[15:48] >> second.
[15:49] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[15:49] favor?
[15:50] >> aye.
[15:51] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: again, we
[15:52] will have some really wonderful
[15:56] things around public health,
[15:57] particularly mental health as
[16:00] we move forward and I think our
[16:01] public health department for
[16:05] leading on the and our clerk's
[16:06] office, always.
[16:06] And the staff.
[16:07] A motion to approve a
[16:10] proclamation for doctor percy
[16:11] julian, 2025.
[16:11] >> so moved.
[16:12] >> second.
[16:21] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: I have
[16:22] asked christina, trustee enyia,
[16:23] and a trustee wesley to please
[16:25] lead on the proclamation.
[16:30] >>clerk:
[16:31] julian was born in montgomery,
[16:32] alabama on APRIL 11, 1899, and
[16:33] was encouraged by his family to
[16:34] leave the segregated south in
[16:35] pursuit of higher education,
[16:36] and graduating first in his
[16:38] class from depauw university
[16:41] with a bachelor's degree in
[16:41] chemistry in 1920, earning a
[16:44] master's degree in chemistry
[16:45] from harvard university in
[16:47] 1923, and awarded a ph.D. From
[16:49] the university of vienna,
[16:53] austria, in 1931, being one of
[16:54] the first african americans to
[17:03] achieve this distinction; and
[17:06] whereas, throughout his career
[17:07] he faced discrimination,
[17:08] relying on his brilliant
[17:09] scientific mind, remarkable
[17:10] work ethic, congenial spirit,
[17:12] and deep religious beliefs to
[17:13] become a renowned chemist who
[17:14] would earn more than 130
[17:16] patents and publish 150
[17:19] scientific articles in his
[17:20] career, receiving numerous
[17:22] honors and a national and
[17:23] international reputation, and
[17:26] reaching breakthroughs in the
[17:29] development of affordable,
[17:30] commercial synthetic steroids
[17:31] and hormones that have been
[17:34] used in a wide range of
[17:35] applications including birth
[17:37] control pills and medications
[17:38] to combat glaucoma and
[17:44] rheumatoid arthritis; and
[17:44] .
[17:46] >>trustee enyia: whereas, his
[17:47] wife anna also broke down
[17:48] academic barriers when she
[17:49] earned a ph.D. In sociology
[17:50] from the university of
[17:52] pennsylvania in 1937, one of
[17:53] the few women to earn such a
[17:59] distinction; and
[18:03] came to the chicago area in
[18:05] 1936, when he was named to a
[18:08] top research position at
[18:09] glidden paint company in
[18:13] chicago before founding his
[18:13] laboratory, julian
[18:15] laboratories, in franklin park,
[18:20] illinois in 1953; and
[18:23] julian was named chicagoan of
[18:28] the year for his scientific and
[18:29] community achievements, and
[18:29] that same year he and anna
[18:32] julian moved with their
[18:34] children from their home in
[18:35] nearby maywood, illinois, to
[18:40] oak park; and
[18:40] .
[18:41] >>trustee wesley: whereas, very
[18:43] early in their residence in oak
[18:44] park, the julian family
[18:45] experienced racism and threats
[18:46] of violence, their home being
[18:48] twice attacked by arsonists,
[18:49] and yet the julians would
[18:51] persevere against these acts of
[18:52] hostility and discrimination
[18:53] and became honored community
[18:56] leaders, and whose children
[18:57] were graduates of oak park
[19:00] river forest high school and
[19:01] whose daughter remains an oak
[19:02] park resident in their original
[19:11] family residence. Now,
[19:12] therefore, I, trustee cory
[19:13] wesley, on behalf of vicki
[19:14] scaman, PRESIDENT Of the
[19:15] village of oak park and the
[19:16] board of trustees, do hereby
[19:16] proclaim APRIL 11, 2025, DR.
[19:18] Percy l. Julian day in the
[19:20] village of oak park, and
[19:22] encourage our community to
[19:23] reflect on the many
[19:29] achievements of DR. Percy
[19:31] julian in science, medicine,
[19:32] and research, as well as one of
[19:33] oak park's pioneers in the
[19:34] quest for inclusion, human and
[19:36] civil rights, and a catalyst
[19:38] for integration and diversity
[19:39] to which the village of oak
[19:47] park has committed. Dated, this
[19:54] 18th day of MARCH 2025.
[20:00] [Pause]
[20:05] [Applause]
[20:07] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: a thank you
[20:08] so much for reading with us
[20:12] today-all in favor?
[20:14] >> aye.
[20:19] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: excellent.
[20:26] Next, we have a motion to
[20:27] approve a proclamation for
[20:28] transgender day of visibility
[20:29] MARCH 31, 2025.
[20:36] >> so moved.
[20:36] >> second.
[20:37] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: I have
[20:38] asked christina to start us
[20:40] off.
[20:42] >>clerk: whereas, the village
[20:43] of oak park is committed to
[20:44] fostering a community that is
[20:45] welcoming, inclusive, and
[20:46] affirming of all individuals,
[20:47] regardless of gender identity
[20:51] or expression; and
[20:54] whereas, transgender day of
[20:55] visibility, observed annually
[20:58] on MARCH 31, is a day to
[21:00] celebrate the resilience,
[21:01] contributions, and achievements
[21:03] of transgender, non-binary, and
[21:04] gender-diverse individuals,
[21:05] while also recognizing the
[21:07] ongoing challenges they face in
[21:09] the pursuit of equality and
[21:14] justice; and
[21:16] whereas, transgender people
[21:17] have made immeasurable
[21:18] contributions to our society,
[21:19] enriching the cultural,
[21:20] economic, and social fabric of
[21:22] oak park and beyond, and
[21:24] deserve to live with dignity,
[21:26] respect, and the freedom to be
[21:30] their authentic selves; and
[21:30] .
[21:32] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: whereas,
[21:33] while great strides have been
[21:35] made toward equity and
[21:36] acceptance, transgender
[21:38] individuals continue to
[21:39] experience discrimination,
[21:42] violence, and barriers to
[21:43] healthcare, employment, and
[21:45] housing, reinforcing the need
[21:46] for continued advocacy,
[21:47] education, and policy efforts
[21:48] to ensure full inclusion and
[21:52] equal rights; and
[21:55] whereas, the village of oak
[21:56] park recognizes both
[21:57] transgender day of visibility
[21:59] MARCH 31, and transgender day
[22:01] of remembrance NOVEMBER 20, as
[22:04] opportunities to stand in
[22:07] solidarity with transgender
[22:08] residents, allies, and
[22:09] advocates, to uplift their
[22:12] voices, and to reaffirm our
[22:14] commitment to equity,
[22:15] diversity, and inclusion for
[22:18] all.
[22:20] Now be it resolved that the
[22:21] village of oak park supports
[22:24] the recognition and celebration
[22:25] of transgender day of
[22:27] visibility, and now, therefore,
[22:28] I, vicki scaman, PRESIDENT Of
[22:30] the village of oak park and the
[22:31] board of trustees, do hereby
[22:35] proclaim MARCH 31, 2025, as
[22:38] transgender day of visibility
[22:40] in the village of oak park and
[22:43] encourage all residents to join
[22:44] us in uplifting and celebrating
[22:46] the transgender community. Let
[22:48] us come together as a community
[22:51] to honor our shared values of
[22:52] inclusivity, equity, and
[22:53] visibility for all gender
[23:00] identities.
[23:22] [Applause]
[23:51] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: you are
[23:55] beautiful.
[23:57] If aaron, sarah, jane, anybody
[24:04] wish to come up and share?
[24:14] [Applause]
[24:16] >>speaker: let me get my
[24:16] remarks out.
[24:17] First of all, I wanted to say
[24:19] thank you so much and thank you
[24:20] all so much.
[24:22] It is an honor and a privilege,
[24:23] deep deep gratitude, especially
[24:26] in these times for the
[24:27] recognition, the visibility,
[24:28] the right to be free, the right
[24:31] not to be under attack and
[24:32] those of you who know me are
[24:33] not surprised that I also want
[24:36] to ask for more.
[24:37] I would like to ask for oak
[24:38] park, not today, but for us to
[24:45] prepare to recognize and become
[24:55] a trans sanctuary.
[24:56] I also want to ask everybody or
[24:58] invite everybody to come
[24:59] celebrate with us.
[25:02] We are having a butterfly dance
[25:03] party on MARCH 30 in the
[25:06] scoville park and it is open
[25:07] everybody who is anybody and an
[25:10] ally, technically everybody,
[25:16] but if you're not, you can stay
[25:16] home.
[25:17] I want to say that trans day of
[25:18] visibility is more than a
[25:21] chance to be seen and more than
[25:22] a party, and more than just
[25:22] about dancing.
[25:23] Our fundamental human rights
[25:25] are under attack and now more
[25:25] than ever.
[25:28] Action must be taken.
[25:29] I want to make it clear that
[25:30] our rights are your rights.
[25:40] The attacks on us are a attack
[25:40] on everybody.
[25:42] Trans people are more than just
[25:42] people in this situation.
[25:44] We also represent the
[25:46] fundamental rights to
[25:47] self-expression and
[25:48] self-determination among other
[25:49] things but real freedom
[25:50] includes the choice to know
[25:51] yourself for who you are and
[25:52] the choice to live and love the
[25:54] way that you choose.
[25:56] We also represent the right to
[25:59] healthcare in these times.
[26:00] As our neighboring states make
[26:01] it harder to exist as a trans
[26:02] person, people are coming from
[26:03] all over looking for a century
[26:06] where they can be who they are
[26:10] and access the healthcare they
[26:11] need to thrive.
[26:15] I want to thank you again for
[26:16] organizing the importance of
[26:16] trans visibility with this
[26:17] resolution and I'm excited to
[26:20] work with all of you to build
[26:21] oak park into more of a
[26:22] snctuary then we even are
[26:22] today.
[26:23] It will affirm people of all
[26:25] identities and say we are all
[26:26] welcome here.
[26:27] I hope you all can make it to
[26:51] the party.
[26:55] Name is mike jackson and I
[26:56] don't have anything prepared
[27:00] for comments, but I want to say
[27:01] -as you can see from my hat,
[27:06] we recently moved back to oak
[27:11] park, right before oak
[27:12] park/river forest started.
[27:13] We previously lived here from a
[27:16] 2002-2016 and I accepted a job
[27:26] in tennessee in the SEPTEMBER
[27:27] 2016.
[27:28] Tennessee is no problem, but
[27:29] some events happened in a
[27:30] NOVEMBER 2016 that you might
[27:33] remember turned things around.
[27:34] When PRESIDENT Trump was
[27:38] elected the first time.
[27:40] We had some bumpy neighbors,
[27:43] but really tennessee was the
[27:51] seed that was planted that
[27:51] saved hatred.
[27:52] It was planted in this country
[27:58] and it spread like wildfire.
[27:58] It was awful.
[28:01] I am here with my beautiful
[28:13] transgender daughter, leah,-
[28:14] is absolutely thriving now that
[28:18] she is up in oak park again.
[28:28] From the beginning we got
[28:29] interviewed by lambda at legal,
[28:30] to be in the case in front of
[28:31] the supreme court right now.
[28:37] They said she has a compelling
[28:38] case because she-she started
[28:39] gender affirming care and it
[28:42] was being taken from her.
[28:45] Through a road that was just
[28:50] absolutely horrible for her and
[28:51] horrible for her whole family,
[28:54] especially her mother and
[28:54] myself.
[28:58] It has been absolutely,
[29:00] absolutely devastating.
[29:03] She has got friends that are
[29:04] similar to her going through
[29:08] this.
[29:09] But here's the thing, we know
[29:11] that there is a plan, a place
[29:15] we could return to.
[29:19] A lot of people do not know oak
[29:20] park and I have been spreading
[29:21] the word as much as I can.
[29:23] Come to oak park, here is the
[29:27] letter from the school
[29:28] superintendent.
[29:28] Here are statements.
[29:30] Here are proclamations of this
[29:30] place.
[29:33] this is like a fairyland, safe
[29:35] for transgender people.
[29:39] It is so welcoming and I cannot
[29:40] tell you how great it has been
[29:41] to be back here.
[29:44] Having gone through all of
[29:50] this, I could absolutely,
[29:51] unequivocally say that equity,
[29:56] diversity, justice, love,
[29:58] acceptance, and most important,
[29:59] gender affirming care.
[30:01] Yes, gender affirming care does
[30:02] save lives and do not let
[30:04] anybody ever, ever tell you
[30:13] otherwise.
[30:20] [Applause]
[30:22] >>speaker: thank you for the
[30:25] opportunity, my name is jane
[30:26] and I have found it to be a
[30:29] real privilege to be here
[30:30] tonight because, of course of
[30:31] the transgender proclamation,
[30:35] but also hearing about doctor
[30:36] julian's being honored and the
[30:40] black maternal health care that
[30:41] the village is doing.
[30:42] Thank you for all of these
[30:42] efforts.
[30:45] I find that it is important to
[30:53] center trans voices and build
[30:53] allies.
[30:54] You will see a lot of people
[30:55] that are parents of trans kids,
[30:56] but I want to honor people who
[30:57] are not parents of trans kids
[30:59] or just feel the cause.
[31:02] Like we can be intersectional
[31:03] and that and I really mean
[31:04] that.
[31:06] It is so beautiful to see.
[31:11] I wasn't schooled by my son
[31:12] when I attended a different
[31:13] thing that I did not say it the
[31:18] right way because he was saying
[31:19] that what we want to emphasize
[31:20] and teach people who are not
[31:21] allies, who do not see it this
[31:28] way is that trans people have
[31:28] done nothing wrong.
[31:29] They are totally beautiful,
[31:30] innocent, and whole human
[31:32] beings full of integrity and
[31:33] there is no backing down from
[31:34] that.
[31:37] To have you all supporting us
[31:39] as a system and being proud is
[31:39] very beautiful.
[31:55] Thank you so much.
[32:00] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: that is
[32:00] okay.
[32:01] We will get one.
[32:02] Thank you so much and thank you
[32:03] all for being here.
[32:04] You are the beautiful ones that
[32:07] organize and make this so
[32:14] special for us to support and
[32:20] just love oak park.
[32:21] Oak park is about the people
[32:22] who live here and make it
[32:22] great.
[32:24] It is about the parents that
[32:25] organize to support other
[32:28] parents and our children who
[32:32] are truly, truly beautiful.
[32:43] Thank you.
[32:43] All in favor?
[32:45] >> aye.
[32:53] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: wonderful.
[32:54] We do have a motion to proclaim
[32:55] national volunteer week of
[32:56] APRIL 20-26, 2025.
[32:56] Motion?
[32:57] >> so moved.
[32:57] >> second.
[33:01] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: this
[33:03] proclamation also is available
[33:04] on the website and, you know, I
[33:08] have to say that volunteerism
[33:14] in our community is also really
[33:15] at the core of who we are.
[33:16] I love this proclamation and I
[33:17] hope you will take a longer
[33:23] look and I look forward to what
[33:24] we can do to support the
[33:25] volunteers in our community
[33:26] during the month of APRIL.
[33:26] All in favor?
[33:26] >> aye.
[33:28] >>PRESIDENT Saman: I have a
[33:29] motion to approve a
[33:34] proclamation for earth month of
[33:35] APRIL 2025.
[33:35] >> so moved.
[33:36] >> second.
[33:37] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: okay, thank
[33:38] you.
[33:39] Again, the same and I know we
[33:40] will have wonderful activities
[33:41] around this as well.
[33:42] All in favor?
[33:42] >> aye.
[33:53] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[33:54] We are moving on t our village
[33:55] managers report.
[33:56] Village manager jackson?
[33:57] >>village manager: yes, thank
[33:58] you PRESIDENT Scaman and
[33:59] trustee members.
[34:00] I have one quick update and I
[34:01] will close with a
[34:02] acknowledgment that I want to
[34:02] make.
[34:03] For a special guest here
[34:04] tonight.
[34:05] First and foremost I want to
[34:06] acknowledge that we are working
[34:09] to identify an alternative date
[34:12] in APRIL for the board to hold
[34:15] a discussion on municipal
[34:16] campus police project, it was
[34:18] originally planned for tonight.
[34:20] Based upon the accelerated
[34:27] schedule that we initially
[34:27] published.
[34:28] Just want to acknowledge that
[34:32] the rescheduling process is
[34:33] underway and we anticipate
[34:35] finding a date in APRIL and we
[34:35] look forward to having the
[34:37] opportunity to finish the work
[34:45] on the design schemes that we
[34:45] previously talked about.
[34:46] We have been talking about
[34:47] since the project has been
[34:49] underway and also providing the
[34:50] updated and more refined cost
[34:51] information, in addition to
[34:52] responding to the boards
[34:53] interest that was expressed at
[34:54] the last meeting about sme
[34:55] high-level financial analysis
[35:02] of the potential schemes.
[35:02] So again, I think in
[35:03] conclusion, what we want to do
[35:04] is do what we intended to do
[35:06] from the outset and that is to
[35:07] facilitate a complete
[35:08] discussion with the board and
[35:18] provide complete information to
[35:19] the board to have the
[35:20] opportunity to make the best
[35:21] judgment on the next step in
[35:22] the process and I think
[35:23] included with that complete
[35:25] information, it was always our
[35:26] plan to provide the information
[35:27] in enough time, given the
[35:28] complexity and magnitude of the
[35:29] project or the board would have
[35:34] adequate time to review all of
[35:35] the conclusions from this stage
[35:36] of the process, as well as the
[35:36] public.
[35:42] We are happy to answer any
[35:42] questions.
[35:43] We are diligently continuing to
[35:46] work on this effort and we have
[35:47] director sproule from a public
[35:52] works to answer any questions
[35:53] if necessary.
[35:54] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: trustee
[35:55] robinson?
[35:55] >>trustee robinson: I have a
[35:56] calendar question.
[35:58] What is the first date that we
[35:59] are supposed to be back in MAY?
[36:00] Has that been calendared?
[36:02] >>village manager: I think it
[36:05] is MAY 6 is the first meeting
[36:06] and that is the meeting where
[36:06] the new board is seated.
[36:19] >>trustee robinson: the
[36:20] additional meeting would have
[36:21] us coming back a week early
[36:22] essentially?
[36:22] >>village manager: yes.
[36:24] >>trustee robinson: I think the
[36:25] original plan was to have the
[36:26] next facilities discussion,
[36:28] which is APRIL 29, possibly may
[36:29] 1 that is possibly being
[36:30] scheduled, have that be the
[36:31] final facilities discussion?
[36:32] Is that right?
[36:34] Or are we still going to-it
[36:40] is a lot to discuss in one
[36:41] meeting, even in one special
[36:41] meeting.
[36:42] I'm just curious whether it is
[36:46] your thought that we would sort
[36:47] of bridge that over two
[36:48] meetings?
[36:49] Or are you thinking that is
[36:50] just going to be that meeting
[36:54] and we have to get it all done
[36:54] then?
[36:56] >>village manager: our hope is
[37:07] that the board will have
[37:08] complete information as planned
[37:09] for tonight and an adequate
[37:10] amount of time to provide the
[37:11] staff with direction to move
[37:12] the project to the next stage,
[37:13] which is to finish this kinetic
[37:14] design process.
[37:15] In that meeting we are hoping
[37:16] to get direction on one
[37:17] variation of the one design
[37:18] option that the board has
[37:22] directed us to work on and then
[37:24] once the board provides that
[37:25] direction, then it makes sense
[37:29] for us to work with jl k to
[37:31] finish the schematic design
[37:34] with that one option.
[37:36] I think that was kind of always
[37:41] the plan to work towards one
[37:42] option before we spend any
[37:45] additional money on the project
[37:46] and move the project to the
[37:47] next stage because moving the
[37:48] project to the next stage is
[37:51] kind of the first step towards
[37:52] implementation.
[37:55] >>trustee robinson: okay.
[37:57] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: any other
[37:58] questions?
[38:01] Okay, I will just share as is
[38:07] often the role of the village
[38:08] PRESIDENT To summarize what i
[38:10] have heard is the consensus of
[38:13] the board, as this was not our
[38:14] expectation this evening.
[38:15] We did fully originally expect
[38:19] to be discussing the schematics
[38:25] before upcoming events in
[38:25] APRIL.
[38:27] It is a very big decision and
[38:34] one that we know that our staff
[38:35] and architect are working
[38:36] diligently to be responsive to
[38:37] the board direction that has
[38:39] been heard.
[38:40] That being that the police
[38:47] station has been said many
[38:49] times to be the priority of the
[38:49] project.
[38:50] That there has been great
[38:51] concern, particularly in the
[38:52] last meeting about cost.
[38:53] Want to make sure that
[38:54] everybody is in agreement so
[38:57] I'm not speaking out of turn
[39:04] and that there is potentially
[39:06] wanting to understand with
[39:08] potentially phasing in
[39:10] rehabilitation of village hall
[39:13] with the ultimate goal that we
[39:17] have a facility that meets the
[39:19] needs of our staff and is
[39:22] accessible to our community.
[39:24] That it be that long term
[39:30] solution that is not making our
[39:34] community pay more over time
[39:41] that the analysis of a
[39:42] strategic funding-financial
[39:43] analysis of how we would pay
[39:44] for whatever the decision of
[39:48] the board would be.
[39:49] Knowing that majority of the
[39:52] cost is the police department
[39:54] and numbers we have heard in
[39:57] the past being anywhere around
[39:58] $80 million, but then the
[40:01] potential rehabilitation and
[40:02] maintenance that we have
[40:10] learned is, you know, mother 20
[40:11] million-40 million.
[40:14] What we know and appreciate is
[40:17] that while tis extra time is
[40:23] not what we plan for, it is the
[40:26] best and most responsible way
[40:28] to move forward so we have all
[40:33] the information that we need to
[40:34] make the decision for the
[40:35] community and that the
[40:39] community deserves to hear from
[40:40] the seven people that have been
[40:41] working on the project over the
[40:52] last year and 1/2.
[40:53] If there are no further
[41:00] comments, then we do think you
[41:01] and we know that you are
[41:02] working hard to be responsive
[41:03] to all the concerns you have
[41:05] heard from the village board to
[41:07] help us with a very big
[41:09] decision.
[41:10] Okay?
[41:16] Thank you.
[41:21] >>village manager: I will just
[41:22] make one-you bet.
[41:24] I'm excited to do it.
[41:28] I want to say welcome and happy
[41:29] birthday to its old martinez,
[41:36] who is a senior in high school
[41:40] at the cornerstone academy here
[41:46] in oak park.
[41:47] She is the next to her teacher.
[41:48] Itzel was going to attend the
[41:49] meeting to watch us to business
[41:50] for a little while now and I'm
[41:53] excited about the fact that she
[41:54] e chose her birthday to
[41:57] exercise her civic interest.
[41:58] She is very involved in it
[42:00] civic throughout the community
[42:01] and I know she has taken a
[42:05] strong interest in oak park and
[42:06] her teacher is excited about
[42:14] the work she is doing in
[42:14] school.
[42:16] I was excited to introduce her
[42:16] tonight.
[42:17] Welcome, itzel.
[42:18] Glad you could make it and I am
[42:20] sure you probably anticipated a
[42:23] longer meeting tonight.
[42:25] Congratulations for exercising
[42:26] your civic interest and thank
[42:31] you for letting me acknowledge
[42:32] itzel tonight.
[42:33] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: welcome,
[42:34] you don't have to, but you can
[42:46] come up and say hello.
[42:47] Up to you.
[42:48] >>speaker: good evening, my
[42:49] name is itzel martinez, to
[42:50] share a little more about me,
[42:51] I'm a senior at cornerstone
[42:52] academy.
[42:53] It's a small private christian
[42:54] school that is almost like an
[42:55] alternative school.
[42:58] They focus on individual needs
[42:58] of students.
[42:59] Walking into cornerstone I
[43:00] realized the lack of mental
[43:01] health resources and where I
[43:03] came from, my previous goals,
[43:04] they lack the resources, too.
[43:06] In that way I found a need and
[43:12] they spark in a drive to do
[43:13] more.
[43:13] What I've been doing at my
[43:14] school as I have been reaching
[43:15] out to mental health resources
[43:17] and building connections with
[43:18] organizations and trying to do
[43:19] more, find more because I see
[43:20] it here and it needs to be seen
[43:22] and I did not realize how
[43:23] important it was for youth to
[43:24] be a part of that.
[43:28] I have been going to places and
[43:29] voicing the needs and the
[43:30] things we need and people see
[43:31] it and they want to hear more.
[43:35] My way I want to get the
[43:37] attention o more youth because
[43:38] I think we are out there and I
[43:46] think this is really cool.
[43:47] Thank you.
[43:48] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: clerk
[43:51] waters is glowing.
[43:52] I hope you will share your
[43:52] contact info so she can reach
[43:57] out and help coordinate these
[43:58] efforts.
[44:01] And thank you so much for being
[44:02] here.
[44:02] I can feel your power, you are
[44:03] truly amazing.
[44:04] Thank you.
[44:05] >>trustee wesley: happy
[44:07] birthday.
[44:08] >> happy birthday.
[44:09] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: happy
[44:13] birthday!
[44:18] Aything else from the village
[44:18] managers report?
[44:19] Of course, of course.
[44:25] Village board committees and
[44:26] the trustee liaison commission
[44:26] report.
[44:27] Any updates?
[44:27] Okay.
[44:28] Citizen commission vacancies.
[44:38] Clerk waters, thank you, again!
[44:39] Clerk waters provides the
[44:40] vacancy report and anybody
[44:41] interested in serving on one of
[44:42] the boards or commissions can
[44:44] reach out to clerk waters at
[44:45] clerk@oak-park.Us.
[44:50] We then have a few
[44:51] appointments.
[44:52] I entertain a motion to consent
[44:53] to the village presidents
[44:55] plemons of, clerk waters, do
[44:55] you mind?
[45:04] >>clerk: sorry, I have too many
[45:12] papers in front of me.
[45:14] Charyl a. Wisniewski, to the
[45:17] community relations commission.
[45:22] Rachel l. Gresk, appointed as a
[45:25] commissioner to the community
[45:31] relations cmmission.
[45:32] Steve nations, point is a
[45:33] commissioner to the environment
[45:34] and energy commission.
[45:38] >>jonathan burch:, appointed as
[45:39] a commissioner to the
[45:42] environment and energy
[45:42] commission.
[45:47] >> frank sullivan, reappoint
[45:51] for a second term to the plan
[45:51] commission.
[45:53] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[45:56] favor?
[46:01] yes, please.
[46:01] Motion, please?
[46:02] >> so moved.
[46:03] >> second.
[46:04] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: motioned by
[46:08] trustee enyia and send dead by
[46:09] trustee wesley.
[46:09] Now and all in favor?
[46:11] >> aye.
[46:12] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: a thank you
[46:13] and thank all of our
[46:16] commissioners for their service
[46:20] .
[46:22] And I would entertain a motion
[46:23] to approve the consent agenda
[46:23] as presented.
[46:26] >> so moved.
[46:26] >> second.
[46:28] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: clerk
[46:29] waters, please take the roll.
[46:46] >> I think that was trustee
[46:47] robinson-brian?
[46:48] And then trustee straw is the
[46:48] second.
[46:49] >> trustee robinson.
[46:49] >> yes.
[46:50] >> trustee straw.
[46:51] >> yes.
[46:51] >> tustee enyia.
[46:52] >> yes.
[46:53] >> trustee parakkat.
[46:53] >> yes.
[46:54] >> trustee wsley.
[46:55] >> yes.
[46:56] >> PRESIDENT Scaman.
[46:57] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: yes.
[46:58] Consent agenda has been
[46:59] approved.
[46:59] We have a motion by trustee
[47:02] parakkat and seconded rustee
[47:03] robinson to discuss current
[47:04] village regulations on mobile
[47:05] food vendors and potential
[47:06] amendments to regulations to
[47:09] the village board to consider.
[47:09] Motion, please?
[47:10] >> so moved.
[47:11] >> second.
[47:17] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[47:18] This is a discussion only.
[47:19] there is nothing to vote on,
[47:20] but I appreciate the motion
[47:24] from a trustee parakkat and
[47:25] trustee robinson.
[47:26] That was my fault for confusing
[47:26] the matter.
[47:30] I will turn over to trustee
[47:30] parakkat then?
[47:32] >>trustee parakkat: thank you.
[47:34] The reason we are having this
[47:40] discussion is in our village,
[47:41] we have well-established
[47:43] brick-and-mortar businesses and
[47:44] their businesses are sometimes
[47:45] affected when we have food
[47:47] trucks that come and park right
[47:54] next to them, selling similar
[47:56] types of food and undercutting
[47:57] the cost because they have
[47:58] slightly different cost
[47:58] structure.
[47:59] In fact, the cost structure is
[48:04] much lower than what we have
[48:05] for our brick-and-mortar
[48:06] businesses that pay into the
[48:07] taxes.
[48:11] They have payroll and a lot of
[48:12] other costs.
[48:12] This is just to see if we can
[48:15] create a level of fairness in
[48:16] terms of our business
[48:22] environment so nobody is
[48:23] disproportionately affected by
[48:24] having a differentiated cost
[48:25] structure or a favorable cost
[48:25] structure.
[48:26] Looking at more of a level
[48:27] playing field.
[48:31] That is the intent of this
[48:38] discussion and in examination
[48:39] what we received through the
[48:40] staff from that research is
[48:41] there are differences in
[48:50] different communities and how
[48:51] this is handled and there are
[48:51] recommendations as well.
[48:53] The discussion is about looking
[48:54] at the recommendations and
[48:55] figuring out what makes sense
[48:56] for our community and what can
[48:57] be fomented to create that
[48:58] level playing field.
[49:00] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[49:01] We have a public comment on
[49:04] this item this evening.
[49:11] >> (Speaker away from mic).
[49:19] >>public commenter: hi.
[49:20] My name is carla (Name?) And I
[49:22] have been a proud resident of
[49:23] oak park for over 20 years as a
[49:28] latina woman and business
[49:28] owner.
[49:30] I deeply value the cultural
[49:31] entrepreneurial spirit that
[49:35] makes our community a vibrant
[49:36] one.
[49:36] My investment in oak park
[49:37] extends beyond my business.
[49:38] I actively support schools,
[49:43] literally, the arts and the
[49:44] several non-for-profit
[49:45] organizations and additionally
[49:46] I'm committed to employing
[49:47] local residents and students
[49:48] who rely on these jobs for
[49:52] growth and financial stability.
[49:54] I appreciate and fully support
[50:05] the recommendations that I have
[50:06] been discussing with the
[50:07] business office in oak park as
[50:08] it reflects the village's
[50:09] commitment to balancing
[50:10] economic growth, while
[50:11] protecting businesses that have
[50:12] long been a part of oak park's
[50:17] economic and cultural fabric.
[50:18] While I welcome a business,
[50:19] while I welcome food trucks and
[50:20] the diversity they bring, our
[50:22] brick-and-mortar businesses are
[50:23] the backbone of our local
[50:23] economy.
[50:32] And we operate under higher
[50:32] standards.
[50:33] I believe these recommendations
[50:34] help maintain a fair playing
[50:35] field and acknowledge the
[50:36] significant and financial
[50:37] personal investments we have
[50:38] made in oak park through
[50:39] contributing, creating jobs,
[50:41] paying rent, paying property
[50:48] taxes.
[50:49] The recommendations that is
[50:51] poposed as a 250 foot distance
[50:52] requirement from existing food
[50:58] and beverage establishments.
[50:59] That ensures food trucks
[51:00] complement instead of directly
[51:01] compete with the local
[51:01] businesses.
[51:03] Fr the past few months I have
[51:04] had a food truck operating
[51:05] directly in front of me and
[51:08] then he moved 100 feet down.
[51:09] From my shop selling the same
[51:11] food daily from 10:00 A.M.-8
[51:11] pm.
[51:12] They are mobile, they are not
[51:13] moving.
[51:19] 10 hours a day.
[51:20] When I kindly asked the owner
[51:21] to move further down, he
[51:22] refused, citing that the
[51:23] village currently has no
[51:24] restrictions or ordinances.
[51:26] That lack of regulation puts
[51:30] brick-and-mortar at a this
[51:30] advantage.
[51:31] The other recommendation is
[51:32] designating specific areas for
[51:34] food trucks to operate.
[51:35] That brings structure,
[51:41] organization, fairness and
[51:42] helps prevent tradition while
[51:43] allowing food trucks to operate
[51:44] successfully without negatively
[51:45] impacting existing businesses.
[51:46] Additionally, restricting food
[51:50] trucks in key business
[51:51] districts, such as madison
[52:01] street or other corridor's
[52:02] helps preserve the vitality of
[52:04] our commercial corridors,
[52:05] ensuring that long-standing
[52:06] businesses that contribute to
[52:07] oak park's character and charm
[52:07] continue to thrive.
[52:09] So I urge the village, as other
[52:10] towns have to support the
[52:11] well-thought-out
[52:12] recommendations to foster a
[52:14] thriving, fair and sustainable
[52:21] business environment for all.
[52:23] I appreciate the board's
[52:24] efforts in promoting both
[52:25] innovation and stability in our
[52:26] community, and to thank you for
[52:27] your time and consideration.
[52:31] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[52:33] So then we will open it up for
[52:34] discussion unless you have more
[52:38] to share?
[52:39] Or greg does?
[52:40] >>village manager: yeah, I will
[52:49] go ahead, craig, as craig is
[52:49] coming up.
[52:50] We are trying to be responsive
[52:51] to the motion.
[52:52] As well as being responsive to
[52:53] the community input we received
[52:54] concurrent with the motion.
[52:54] What we hve done is
[53:00] preliminary work to frame the
[53:00] discussion.
[53:01] There ae some preliminary
[53:02] options outlined, but what we
[53:03] are looking for is feedback
[53:04] from the board so we can bring
[53:05] something back, that is
[53:11] responsive of the entire
[53:11] board's interest.
[53:13] Tonight we can certainly offer
[53:14] what we found so far, but we
[53:16] are looking forward to getting
[53:17] your input so we get the
[53:18] ordinance proposal back at a
[53:18] later time.
[53:22] >> thank you, manager jackson,
[53:23] craig failor, deponent services
[53:23] director.
[53:28] We have been working on a
[53:31] things to think about in
[53:39] regards to food tracks.
[53:40] Nomi diaz will walk through
[53:41] that.
[53:41] We have also been talking to
[53:42] the health the permit on this
[53:43] as well.
[53:44] We have reached out to other
[53:45] persons in our department and
[53:47] other departments o help us
[53:49] formulate these ideas and I
[53:51] think k nomi will indicate that
[54:02] she has looked at other
[54:02] communities.
[54:03] >> thank you, craig.
[54:12] Good evening, nomi diaz,
[54:13] administered of officer in a
[54:13] development services.
[54:15] We did rsearch on neighboring
[54:16] communities that is attached to
[54:17] the agenda item, estimated
[54:19] about 18 different communities
[54:24] and what their current
[54:26] regulations are for any mobile
[54:26] food truck vendors.
[54:28] Looking at an analysis of that
[54:30] and some history of what the
[54:31] village currently has.
[54:33] Currently, the requirements for
[54:34] any mobile food truck vendors
[54:39] is that they have to-they
[54:40] have to have a health
[54:42] inspection conducted by our
[54:46] department of health.
[54:47] They also have to be compliant
[54:49] with ay parking restrictions
[55:01] and not obstructing any
[55:02] right-of-way.
[55:03] Have to have an active business
[55:04] license and the cost of the
[55:05] business license is dependent
[55:06] on the number of inspections
[55:07] that the food truck has to get
[55:09] on an annual basis and that is
[55:10] determined by our health
[55:18] department based on what the
[55:19] food risks are.
[55:20] That is currently what we have
[55:20] in place.
[55:21] Looking at the communities we
[55:22] researched, we made three
[55:24] potential recommendations for
[55:27] the board to consider.
[55:28] The first one being mobile food
[55:30] vendors must operate at least
[55:35] 250 feet and any food and drink
[55:35] establishment.
[55:36] To give a little bit of a
[55:42] visual of what 250 feet looks
[55:42] like.
[55:48] The scope of how long the
[55:49] village campus is currently.
[55:50] Clearly outside a village hall
[55:54] sidewalk to sidewalk is about
[55:54] 250 feet.
[55:55] Currently our commercial blocks
[55:57] are about 400 feet.
[56:03] Just to give a little bit of
[56:04] perspective of what that looks
[56:04] like.
[56:09] That is one recommendation for
[56:10] the board to consider in the
[56:11] second is mobile food vendors
[56:12] are allowed to operate in
[56:13] designated areas in the village
[56:14] this is previously been
[56:17] explored by village staff.
[56:19] A couple about eight years ago
[56:20] in terms of setting direct
[56:22] areas where mobile food trucks
[56:24] can park their vehicle and the
[56:29] cell and it creates a different
[56:31] commercial corridor for mobile
[56:33] food vendors and 1/3 potential
[56:41] regulation is mobile food
[56:42] vendors are not able to operate
[56:43] in a business district.
[56:44] Currently the village
[56:45] recognizes 12 different
[56:46] districts throughout oak park.
[56:48] Ultimately that would limit as
[56:48] to where they would be able to
[56:51] park in the sell their goods,
[56:54] but those are the three
[56:55] different that we have come up
[56:59] with in terms of
[57:00] recommendations for the board
[57:01] to consider.
[57:03] Village staff supports any of
[57:06] the three that the board would
[57:06] like to pursue.
[57:11] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[57:12] Please go ahead.
[57:14] >>trustee parakkat: just a
[57:21] quick question on
[57:22] applicability.
[57:23] If there are events, special
[57:24] events that happen, is this
[57:25] applicable in those instances
[57:33] as well or is this non-event
[57:33] related regulation?
[57:35] >> this is not event related
[57:36] read any mobile food vendor
[57:37] that would like to participate
[57:38] at any of our special events or
[57:39] events throughout the village,
[57:40] they have to go through a
[57:42] different special event
[57:43] permitting process.
[57:44] >>trustee parakkat: that is
[57:44] separate.
[57:45] That is true for block parties
[57:50] and smaller events as well?
[57:50] Okay, thanks.
[57:52] >>trustee robinson: I want to
[57:53] clarify-let's say we adopt
[57:56] all three of the
[57:57] recommendations.
[58:04] Even if it takes place in a
[58:05] business district, as long as
[58:07] they go through whatever this
[58:08] separate permitting process is,
[58:09] they would be able to set up
[58:10] their food truck for a special
[58:14] event, even if it is in a
[58:14] business district?
[58:15] If that is regulated based on
[58:26] the staff's recommendations,
[58:26] correct?
[58:27] >>speaker: correct.
[58:28] >>trustee robinson: in
[58:29] addition, I'm in agreement with
[58:30] what trustee parakkat said and
[58:31] the public comment her as well.
[58:32] I just want to point out the
[58:33] public comment or sent us what
[58:36] I thought was just a really
[58:37] detailed email that we received
[58:38] a b a week ago, maybe a week
[58:39] and 1/2 ago, something like
[58:39] that.
[58:43] But I thought did-really
[58:44] echoed what she said tonight,
[58:46] but did a great job of
[58:50] explaining sort of the
[58:51] difficulty and that this unfair
[58:52] competition point.
[58:55] How brick-and-mortar stores-
[58:59] food trucks can sort of pop up
[59:00] without warning, out of nowhere
[59:02] and to be parked outside of
[59:03] their establishment for really
[59:06] any length of time, as long as
[59:06] they comply currently with
[59:10] parking and the health
[59:10] inspection.
[59:11] That adds a level of
[59:12] competition that does not
[59:15] really exist right now for
[59:17] other businesses.
[59:18] While I certainly am in favor
[59:21] of a free market, I think we
[59:22] regulate our business districts
[59:29] and we do so for specific
[59:30] reasons.
[59:30] Safety, health.
[59:32] But this idea of really trying
[59:33] to not compromise the integrity
[59:34] of our business districts and
[59:36] our brick-and-mortar stores is
[59:39] a way that this type of
[59:40] regulation can help further
[59:43] preserve the integrity of those
[59:43] districts.
[59:45] The only thing I wanted staff
[59:49] to opine on his I noticed in
[59:52] the oak one regulation it
[59:54] included a requirement that
[59:57] food trucks have a plan for
[59:57] waste disposal.
[1:00:00] I was curious what staff
[1:00:00] thought about that.
[1:00:04] You know, we have areas of oak
[1:00:10] park that certainly have
[1:00:11] oversized trash cans, but I
[1:00:12] assume those are based on the
[1:00:13] number of brick and mortar
[1:00:16] establishments that are already
[1:00:17] there?
[1:00:18] So what does staff think about
[1:00:21] adding a plan for waste
[1:00:22] disposal, especially as we
[1:00:25] consistently try to fight
[1:00:29] against sort of the
[1:00:30] proliferation of rats?
[1:00:34] We do not want food, other
[1:00:35] types of food, of disposal to
[1:00:36] be outside of garbage cans.
[1:00:42] do you foresee any problems or
[1:00:43] maybe what do you think about
[1:00:44] incorporating that and of
[1:00:49] folding that into whatever our
[1:00:49] regulatory structure is?
[1:00:50] >> absolutely.
[1:00:51] I will start off by saying that
[1:00:53] we have not had any issues in
[1:00:54] terms of a waste disposal of
[1:00:58] any of the current active
[1:00:59] license that we have for mobile
[1:01:02] food vendors, however, we would
[1:01:03] definitely explore
[1:01:04] incorporating that into the
[1:01:05] regulations if that is
[1:01:06] something the board desires.
[1:01:07] >>trustee robinson: based on
[1:01:09] your research, what I was
[1:01:11] reading referred to special
[1:01:12] disposal methods or certain
[1:01:13] types of food waste.
[1:01:18] Like greece for example.
[1:01:20] What are your thoughts about
[1:01:21] incorporating that specifically
[1:01:29] so we sort of award off and
[1:01:30] prevent any disposal method
[1:01:31] that could create a bigger
[1:01:32] problem or a bigger mess for
[1:01:36] public works, for surrounding
[1:01:37] businesses, etc.?
[1:01:38] Absolutely.
[1:01:39] I definitely explore that with
[1:01:40] te health department and the
[1:01:41] health inspectors and making
[1:01:42] sure we are addressing proper
[1:01:43] and safe waste disposal.
[1:01:52] >>trustee robinson: okay, okay.
[1:01:53] So we deal with it in
[1:01:54] designated areas, but not
[1:01:55] business districts, are we
[1:01:56] saying they can be set up
[1:02:03] throughout our residential
[1:02:03] districts?
[1:02:05] >> more or less.
[1:02:06] Essentially, not all of lake
[1:02:07] street is a business district.
[1:02:08] So there would be certain areas
[1:02:15] and our intent would be if that
[1:02:17] is not potential regulation of
[1:02:18] the village board as to pursue,
[1:02:19] we would come back with a map
[1:02:20] that highlighted the areas that
[1:02:27] would be appropriate for mobile
[1:02:27] food truck vendors.
[1:02:29] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: that sounds
[1:02:29] good to me.
[1:02:30] I am certainly on board with
[1:02:31] the three regulations.
[1:02:32] The only other thing I will
[1:02:35] point out is that in the
[1:02:35] board's future our summit
[1:02:36] zoning discussion, including
[1:02:39] the possibility of creating
[1:02:42] residential housing in the
[1:02:44] commercial districts, maybe in
[1:02:44] an expanded capacity.
[1:02:47] So I would just want any-
[1:02:48] anything that staff comes back
[1:02:52] with to have that in the back
[1:02:57] of your mind as we sort of have
[1:02:58] these conversations
[1:02:59] sequentially to make sure we
[1:02:59] are not stepping over ourselves
[1:03:04] as we figure this stuff out.
[1:03:05] I thought the recommendations
[1:03:07] were great and I would like to
[1:03:15] include a plan for waste
[1:03:15] disposal.
[1:03:16] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: please,
[1:03:17] brian.
[1:03:18] I'm sorry.
[1:03:27] >>trustee straw: I think first,
[1:03:32] starting with the third
[1:03:33] recommendation.
[1:03:39] I'm not entirely sure I
[1:03:40] understand the idea behind a
[1:03:41] recommendation that mobile food
[1:03:43] vendors are not able to operate
[1:03:47] in any business district
[1:03:49] because that would-that would
[1:03:50] mean that we would only be
[1:03:53] allowing mobile food vendors to
[1:03:57] operate in our residential
[1:03:59] neighborhoods, which when I was
[1:04:06] looking through the comparable
[1:04:07] -the other communities, most
[1:04:10] of those had regulations
[1:04:16] limiting mobile food vendors,
[1:04:17] food trucks from parking in
[1:04:19] residential areas and selling
[1:04:26] in residential areas.
[1:04:27] I understand businesses wanting
[1:04:28] to limit the risks of
[1:04:33] competition, but why would such
[1:04:34] a broad-based approach of
[1:04:35] preventing all sales and
[1:04:36] business districts be the
[1:04:38] direction we want to go.
[1:04:40] >> our intent was to kind of
[1:04:41] encourage mobile food vendors
[1:04:44] to go to chools, parks and
[1:04:50] really go into untouched
[1:04:51] territories, where
[1:04:52] brick-and-mortar businesses are
[1:04:56] unable to capture those.
[1:05:01] >>trustee straw: okay.
[1:05:07] I guess I-that is something I
[1:05:09] would need to give a little
[1:05:09] more thought to.
[1:05:14] I guess I have some concern
[1:05:17] about setting up secondary
[1:05:18] business districts if we had a
[1:05:26] situation where now we have a
[1:05:27] food truck row on a residential
[1:05:28] street and we are diverting
[1:05:30] traffic to a food truck row.
[1:05:33] Typically there is a reason we
[1:05:35] concentrate business activity
[1:05:35] in business districts.
[1:05:40] I think it makes sense to have
[1:05:41] food truck vendors are going to
[1:05:46] want to go where there is foot
[1:05:51] traffic as well.
[1:05:52] I think that-I do not think
[1:05:53] that right now I would be in
[1:05:55] favor of the third
[1:05:55] recommendation.
[1:05:59] I don't necessarily want to be
[1:06:03] pushing food truck vendors to
[1:06:07] be in residential neighborhoods
[1:06:13] as opposed to in our business
[1:06:13] districts.
[1:06:19] I think it would be helpful
[1:06:23] when we get any specific
[1:06:24] ordinance back around number
[1:06:30] one to see what a map would
[1:06:40] look like with, you know, if we
[1:06:41] did a 250 foot bubble around
[1:06:42] any drink establishment, are we
[1:06:47] saying that food truck vendors
[1:06:50] cannot be in these swaths of
[1:06:55] the village because a 250 foot
[1:07:00] bubble-I imagine that blocks
[1:07:01] off most of downtown oak park,
[1:07:07] most of the hemingway business
[1:07:07] district.
[1:07:11] So I'm curious whether there's
[1:07:15] any way to have it be a
[1:07:17] limitation where you have
[1:07:17] direct competition.
[1:07:21] I know the situation that
[1:07:25] brought us here tonight on this
[1:07:28] discussion was a food truck
[1:07:34] selling tacos immediately
[1:07:35] adjacent to a brick-and-mortar
[1:07:36] store that sells tacos and I
[1:07:42] understand how that is unfair,
[1:07:43] but I think if there was a food
[1:07:45] truck that sold ice cream that
[1:07:49] parked right next to a store
[1:07:52] selling tacos, that might not
[1:07:53] be a problem.
[1:07:55] In fact, it might be a bonus to
[1:07:55] business.
[1:07:59] And drive more foot traffic.
[1:08:04] I think if there is a way for
[1:08:05] us to be creative so we can
[1:08:08] prevent some of the direct
[1:08:13] competition, but not prevent
[1:08:15] entrepreneurs who are just
[1:08:19] trying to start a business from
[1:08:23] chasing those dreams in our
[1:08:24] community, I think there is a
[1:08:27] balance to be found because I
[1:08:30] know there are a lot of those
[1:08:34] brick-and-mortar restaurants,
[1:08:35] where people were able to make
[1:08:37] those brick-and-mortar
[1:08:39] restaurant dreams come true
[1:08:42] because they started with a
[1:08:43] food truck with the lower
[1:08:44] overhead.
[1:08:48] I want to find-I want to make
[1:08:50] sure we are finding a balance
[1:08:54] with the lightest touch
[1:08:59] possible on regulation that
[1:09:01] protects the vital small
[1:09:04] business community that we have
[1:09:09] that has made these
[1:09:10] brick-and-mortar investments
[1:09:11] who is employing our next
[1:09:18] generation of entrepreneurs in
[1:09:18] our community.
[1:09:19] I think that is vital, but I do
[1:09:21] not want to drive investment in
[1:09:22] food trucks out of our
[1:09:23] community and I think if we
[1:09:26] take too heavy a hand that we
[1:09:39] might go too far.
[1:09:39] Thank you.
[1:09:41] >>trustee enyia: this is a
[1:09:42] random question, but our ice
[1:09:43] cream trucks considered food
[1:09:44] tricks, too?
[1:09:49] >> yes they are.
[1:09:49] Very conflicting.
[1:09:56] >> they are.
[1:09:57] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: if nobody
[1:10:01] is jumping forward, somewhat
[1:10:05] similar to brian's concern, I
[1:10:06] definitely agree that-to have
[1:10:09] a food truck in front of a
[1:10:10] brick-and-mortar with the
[1:10:11] expense and commitment that is
[1:10:14] also serving the same food, it
[1:10:20] should certainly not be okay
[1:10:21] and permitted grade what im
[1:10:22] curious about is the beer shop.
[1:10:26] It is in a business district
[1:10:30] and we have encouraged them to
[1:10:31] seek out relationships because
[1:10:32] they do not serve food and we
[1:10:37] do not otherwise have bars in
[1:10:41] our community that do not serve
[1:10:42] food.
[1:10:43] I remember when we give them
[1:10:44] their liquor license initially
[1:10:45] we encouraged them to build
[1:10:46] relationships with neighboring
[1:10:51] restaurants and food trucks.
[1:10:52] How does it work in that lot?
[1:11:02] How would tat lot be affected
[1:11:02] by this ordinance?
[1:11:05] We built that lot out recently
[1:11:12] to be kind of an event space or
[1:11:13] turn into an event space.
[1:11:16] I like the idea of the beer
[1:11:20] shop being able to invite food
[1:11:21] trucks, particularly in the
[1:11:22] summertime.
[1:11:24] is there something we can do to
[1:11:25] carve out that law or other
[1:11:28] areas in the community where
[1:11:30] the addition of a food trucks
[1:11:31] is actually contributing to
[1:11:40] vitality in a not as
[1:11:41] competitive way to local
[1:11:42] businesses?
[1:11:43] Could it be something about the
[1:11:44] type of food or could they get
[1:11:45] a certain number of times a
[1:11:46] month that they could?
[1:11:46] I don't know.
[1:11:50] Can we try to consider some
[1:11:57] options for us I don't know,
[1:11:58] what you think?
[1:11:58] >> absolutely.
[1:12:00] That is something we can
[1:12:00] explore in this next month
[1:12:02] while we prepare something to
[1:12:03] come back to the board.
[1:12:04] We explore the potential of
[1:12:12] either excluding certain lots
[1:12:13] that are (Word?) During periods
[1:12:14] of time like summertime,
[1:12:15] assuming the food truck vendor
[1:12:18] does not sell the same or
[1:12:19] similar type of menu as the
[1:12:21] neighboring restaurants in the
[1:12:21] area.
[1:12:25] And we can also export
[1:12:26] different event types, permits
[1:12:27] and what that would look like.
[1:12:31] We need to do more research.
[1:12:32] >> some of our food trucks are
[1:12:36] also brick-and-mortar
[1:12:37] restaurants.
[1:12:37] So they are making the same
[1:12:39] level of commitment in another
[1:12:43] way, the same way, but the
[1:12:47] mobile truck is an extension of
[1:12:49] the brick-and-mortar business.
[1:12:52] That is the thought-the only
[1:13:00] thought that I have concern
[1:13:00] with here.
[1:13:02] >>trustee wesley: I agree with
[1:13:04] you on that.
[1:13:05] I think on the lot tenant
[1:13:06] thing, couldn't we sell food
[1:13:11] truck spots in that lot and
[1:13:12] that extra cost would make it a
[1:13:13] bit more commiserate with the
[1:13:14] investment of the surrounding
[1:13:15] businesses and therefore seems
[1:13:16] like it might put at least in
[1:13:21] that one space, things on a bit
[1:13:22] more even competition?
[1:13:23] But in general, I agree with
[1:13:27] some sort of space around
[1:13:28] brick-and-mortar restaurants
[1:13:32] that should be food truck free.
[1:13:35] Chicago went through this a few
[1:13:36] years ago.
[1:13:37] Might be 10 years or 11 or
[1:13:38] something like that.
[1:13:40] It was a whole big thing and I
[1:13:42] knew a few restaurant owners at
[1:13:44] the time that were being
[1:13:49] impacted by this in the river
[1:13:51] north area and it would like-
[1:13:51] I don't remember the figures.
[1:13:56] I remember that the difference
[1:13:57] between their lunch take on a
[1:13:59] day when the food truck was
[1:14:01] there versus in a food truck
[1:14:01] wasn't was significant.
[1:14:06] So I do think that this is a
[1:14:07] worthwhile ordinance to
[1:14:10] consider, at least with some
[1:14:14] level of fee, away from the
[1:14:15] brick-and-mortar businesses.
[1:14:20] Two trustee straw's point about
[1:14:21] concentrating business activity
[1:14:22] and business districts I'm
[1:14:23] never going to MISS The chance
[1:14:24] to talk about zoning and I will
[1:14:27] point out that before exclusive
[1:14:31] single-family home zoning,
[1:14:32] residents intermingled and
[1:14:34] economic activity was part of
[1:14:35] life and not a part that was
[1:14:42] separate.
[1:14:43] Exclusion-exclusionary
[1:14:44] zoning, we have places where we
[1:14:45] put businesses in places where
[1:14:47] we put people MAY think what we
[1:14:49] have noticed is when we put
[1:14:50] people where the businesses
[1:14:51] are, like in dtop we get a lot
[1:14:51] of vibrancy.
[1:14:54] a psalm in support of
[1:14:55] intermingling people in
[1:14:56] businesses and any chance we
[1:14:57] can get, including with food
[1:15:01] trucks.
[1:15:05] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: trustee
[1:15:06] enyia?
[1:15:07] >>trustee enyia: I agree with
[1:15:14] what PRESIDENT Scaman was
[1:15:15] saying, they have chips, the
[1:15:16] beer shop has a chips.
[1:15:17] Part of the stipulation.
[1:15:24] I do agree that knowing,
[1:15:25] working downtown for a long
[1:15:26] time, understanding that there
[1:15:27] are some opportunities that are
[1:15:30] missed from brick-and-mortar
[1:15:31] because-mainly it is
[1:15:32] distance, but there is also the
[1:15:43] level of convenience that
[1:15:44] sometimes the food truck gives
[1:15:45] you for special events.
[1:15:46] I think that makes perfect
[1:15:47] sense and in the summertime it
[1:15:48] is one of those opportunities
[1:15:49] for a place like the beer shop
[1:15:51] and other places that do not
[1:15:52] serve technically full-service
[1:15:54] food and they did try other
[1:15:55] options, but I know their most
[1:15:56] profitable option was the food
[1:15:57] truck.
[1:15:59] They did try having a delivery
[1:16:00] service with japanese
[1:16:06] restaurant that is very nearby
[1:16:07] and they tried to do a delivery
[1:16:08] to the beer shop, but it did
[1:16:14] not hit off as far as as well
[1:16:15] as having a food truck there.
[1:16:16] I think there should be
[1:16:16] consideration to that, but I
[1:16:18] completely understand parking
[1:16:20] in front of a location-it is
[1:16:21] not fair to the business owner
[1:16:23] of the brick-and-mortar
[1:16:24] location, but I think there
[1:16:28] should be some type of
[1:16:28] designated spot if that is
[1:16:36] something that the board has an
[1:16:37] appetite for going further down
[1:16:38] research, but also I think as
[1:16:39] you said before, it does lend
[1:16:53] some new opportunity to talk
[1:16:54] about where in the village
[1:16:55] would it make sense for a food
[1:16:56] truck to operate that is nt as
[1:16:57] close everything?
[1:16:58] I know there are parts of oak
[1:16:59] park that are pretty much
[1:17:00] untapped and we talked about
[1:17:01] north oak park where I grew up,
[1:17:02] there are not many options.
[1:17:03] Is there something that can be
[1:17:04] set up so they can re-envision
[1:17:07] what that could be in other
[1:17:08] areas of oak park that would
[1:17:11] never otherwise see an
[1:17:14] opportunity to seize food.
[1:17:15] Bring up the ice cream truck
[1:17:19] thing because I know in so many
[1:17:20] situations, as a kid, after
[1:17:21] table games and all of those
[1:17:25] things, you think about, what
[1:17:26] is the first thing that is
[1:17:27] going to show up here?
[1:17:28] I would hate to think that
[1:17:31] because of certain distance
[1:17:32] rule, that you would ice out
[1:17:33] the ice cream truck.
[1:17:36] Those are just things, but I
[1:17:41] definitely agree with the owner
[1:17:43] of-I believe it is taco 76
[1:17:46] that had to deal with that.
[1:17:47] That is undercutting her
[1:17:51] business and that is not what
[1:17:52] we would want to see happening
[1:17:56] for businesses like that.
[1:17:57] I promise you.
[1:18:00] >>trustee straw: responding to
[1:18:01] trustee wesley, I want to be
[1:18:04] clear, did not propose
[1:18:05] preventing food trucks from
[1:18:11] operating in residential areas.
[1:18:12] Although, I will note that
[1:18:13] right now it is pretty much
[1:18:16] just the ice cream trucks that
[1:18:18] show up in those residential
[1:18:23] areas because there is not as
[1:18:28] much foot traffic with the
[1:18:29] exception of when there is a
[1:18:31] block party or something like
[1:18:34] that, where they are specially
[1:18:37] invited.
[1:18:39] I certainly have no issue with
[1:18:42] food trucks operating in
[1:18:42] residential areas.
[1:18:49] I think that we just need to be
[1:18:54] thoughtful as we move forward
[1:18:59] with regulation and that is
[1:19:00] why, you know, sort of seeing
[1:19:02] mapped out, what would 250 feet
[1:19:06] mean the versus 150 feet?
[1:19:08] What is the right distance that
[1:19:13] would provide opportunities or
[1:19:16] -I don't know if this is a
[1:19:17] question that staff is ready to
[1:19:18] answer today or if a village
[1:19:19] attorney.
[1:19:21] Is there a way to regulate by
[1:19:25] the type of cuisine so we
[1:19:32] prevent that kind of
[1:19:33] competition, where you have a
[1:19:34] food truck selling the same
[1:19:34] food right in front of a
[1:19:35] brick-and-mortar?
[1:19:38] I think that is really the type
[1:19:41] of competition that it sounds
[1:19:46] like is problematic here.
[1:19:48] Rather than if I'm in the mood
[1:19:54] for chicken and waffles and
[1:19:56] that is why I'm going there, a
[1:19:57] taco truck being parked out
[1:19:58] front of them is not
[1:20:00] necessarily going to change my
[1:20:00] mind.
[1:20:03] I was going for chicken and
[1:20:03] waffles.
[1:20:06] I do not want to prevent
[1:20:09] business activity where we are
[1:20:12] not actually seeing a problem.
[1:20:16] I want to just make sure that
[1:20:17] we are identifying and
[1:20:21] targeting what they problematic
[1:20:22] behavior is.
[1:20:23] That is the only thing that I
[1:20:26] was trying to highlight and
[1:20:29] sort of the being thoughtful of
[1:20:30] having as narrow of a scope as
[1:20:30] possible.
[1:20:40] >>trustee robinson: I think
[1:20:41] trustee straw, your point is
[1:20:41] well taken.
[1:20:42] I don't want to regulate it by
[1:20:43] food type.
[1:20:46] I think we get too much in the
[1:20:46] weeds.
[1:20:47] Does that have to be the type
[1:20:48] of food that that truck
[1:20:49] exclusively cells, mostly
[1:20:49] cells?
[1:20:50] Can they sell ice cream and
[1:20:54] tacos and park outside of taco
[1:20:54] 76?
[1:20:56] Idon't want people to be slick
[1:20:58] with it and then we are like
[1:21:03] cutting hairs on what type of
[1:21:03] food is sold.
[1:21:04] That's a type of regulation
[1:21:08] that gets more granular than I
[1:21:17] would thank staff would want to
[1:21:17] be.
[1:21:18] I think you are right, that is
[1:21:20] the competition point, that is
[1:21:21] exactly the competition point.
[1:21:25] That is just my thought on
[1:21:26] edge.
[1:21:26] It seems to invite a level of
[1:21:29] specificity and granularity,
[1:21:30] and regulation that I'm not
[1:21:33] quite sure we want to really
[1:21:34] get into.
[1:21:42] I will point out that-did you
[1:21:43] mention hot chocolate coffee?
[1:21:51] Has been a long time since my
[1:21:52] kids played baseball, but there
[1:21:53] used to be a hot chocolate
[1:21:55] coffee food truck at baseball
[1:22:00] games who was a lifesaver on
[1:22:00] cold game days.
[1:22:01] I think it might be a little
[1:22:02] more variety than we might be
[1:22:11] naturally thinking of in our
[1:22:12] residential areas.
[1:22:13] You would park near a baseball
[1:22:14] park, which those parts are in
[1:22:15] residential areas.
[1:22:15] There might be more variety
[1:22:16] than we might be assuming.
[1:22:17] So anyway, those are the two
[1:22:22] things I wanted to add.
[1:22:23] >> I think she has a bike now.
[1:22:25] I think is a bike and said of a
[1:22:35] truck.
[1:22:36] -instead of a truck.
[1:22:37] >>trustee parakkat: I agree
[1:22:38] with trustee robinson that I
[1:22:39] think the specificity can
[1:22:40] become an enforcement challenge
[1:22:41] quickly and that is
[1:22:42] counterproductive to what we
[1:22:43] are trying to do in the second
[1:22:44] thing is also in terms of our
[1:22:45] ability to attract future
[1:22:48] businesses into a business
[1:22:48] district as certain
[1:22:51] ramifications in terms of our
[1:22:52] attitude towards food trucks in
[1:22:55] general, while it might be
[1:22:56] complementary to begin with,
[1:22:59] but let's say we d not have a
[1:23:00] korean barbecue in our
[1:23:06] community or we do not have a
[1:23:07] specific kind of business,
[1:23:08] their ability to come into it
[1:23:09] and someone looking at oak park
[1:23:11] as an investment opportunity
[1:23:13] might be the fact that there
[1:23:14] are food trucks that might
[1:23:15] violate that or that becomes an
[1:23:19] impediment.
[1:23:20] It can be, I'm not saying it
[1:23:21] will, but it could be.
[1:23:22] Something to examine is our
[1:23:23] ability to attract future
[1:23:24] businesses and be a better
[1:23:25] business environment for the
[1:23:32] community in the long run.
[1:23:34] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: anything
[1:23:34] further?
[1:23:35] >>trustee wesley: I want to
[1:23:37] note, trustee enyia, you were
[1:23:38] mentioning about-the beer
[1:23:44] shop and food trucks.
[1:23:45] I thought about ken's locker
[1:23:46] and how there is always a food
[1:23:47] truck outside of ken's locker
[1:23:50] because there's no rstaurants
[1:23:50] around there.
[1:23:54] I don't want to prevent the
[1:23:56] food truck from sitting outside
[1:23:58] of ken's locker, where they
[1:24:02] have service there.
[1:24:03] Yeah, yeah exactly.
[1:24:09] It is the depot.
[1:24:14] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: what the
[1:24:15] ordinance have that?
[1:24:19] Want to make sure we are not
[1:24:20] shutting out hot cocoa trucks
[1:24:21] and coffee drugs and I want to
[1:24:23] think about this from the
[1:24:32] perspective of incentivizing
[1:24:33] folks into areas.
[1:24:34] To the point of-I know you
[1:24:35] were not saying combine the
[1:24:36] two, trustee straw, I saw
[1:24:37] opportunity to talk about
[1:24:38] zoning, so I took it.
[1:24:39] I think getting food trucks
[1:24:40] into places like around our
[1:24:43] parks where people are
[1:24:44] congregating and figuring out
[1:24:48] how we can encourage that or in
[1:24:49] northeast oak park they are
[1:24:50] always in, we do not have a
[1:24:50] coffee shop.
[1:24:51] We cannot put a food truck that
[1:24:53] allows you to have coffee, but
[1:24:54] you can have a food truck with
[1:24:58] coffee in the area MAY be
[1:24:59] consistently and at a certain
[1:25:01] spot and maybe that is
[1:25:02] something that can bootstrap a
[1:25:04] little bit of economic activity
[1:25:05] in the area.
[1:25:11] I'm open to not just how we
[1:25:13] need to limit this around our
[1:25:14] brick-and-mortar businesses,
[1:25:15] but how we can encourage it in
[1:25:15] other places where that level
[1:25:17] that needs to protect against
[1:25:20] competition is not there.
[1:25:21] >> I was going to say one thing
[1:25:22] great outside of special
[1:25:24] events, we could look at MAY be
[1:25:26] limiting the duration that they
[1:25:29] are in one spot so they are not
[1:25:36] there all day, lunch and dinner
[1:25:37] or whatever or potentially look
[1:25:38] at hours of operation when they
[1:25:39] cannot be there or something,
[1:25:40] but we can sort of mix that
[1:25:47] into the evaluation of this.
[1:25:49] >> I think all the comments
[1:25:51] tonight have been good.
[1:25:54] The consensus truly being that
[1:26:00] we do value the investment of
[1:26:01] brick-and-mortar businesses.
[1:26:02] We want to be honoring that.
[1:26:07] We also do not want to
[1:26:08] completely cycle vibrancy and
[1:26:09] parts of our community where it
[1:26:10] is not necessarily in conflict.
[1:26:15] How do we do that?
[1:26:15] Good luck.
[1:26:23] >> thank you.
[1:26:24] >>trustee wesley: better you
[1:26:35] than us.
[1:26:37] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: this is the
[1:26:38] village manager form of
[1:26:38] government.
[1:26:39] We say what we hope to
[1:26:40] accomplish and they help us
[1:26:40] find it.
[1:26:46] Figure out how to get there,
[1:26:46] right?
[1:26:52] Then it is called to board and
[1:26:52] clerk.
[1:26:52] Clerk waters?
[1:26:54] >>clerk: we have another
[1:26:55] non-agenda public comment.
[1:26:58] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: great.
[1:27:04] >clerk: aiden?
[1:27:12] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: well,.
[1:27:12] -welcome.
[1:27:14] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: they are
[1:27:15] not comfortable cues, but thank
[1:27:16] you for being here.
[1:27:20] >>public commenter: sorry,
[1:27:21] hello, my name is aiden
[1:27:22] sullivan and I was born in my
[1:27:27] suburban 25 years ago and I
[1:27:28] have known oak park ever since.
[1:27:28] There we go.
[1:27:29] My question today is for
[1:27:31] village PRESIDENT Scaman.
[1:27:37] Village hall since inception
[1:27:38] has been (Word?) Of finland
[1:27:39] greatest similarities both the
[1:27:44] static, both the static and
[1:27:44] programmatic.
[1:27:46] most productively, village
[1:27:47] halls of mass timber, disparate
[1:27:48] and gathered together.
[1:27:55] As we do today, and more
[1:27:56] generally as villagers.
[1:27:57] I understand your opponents
[1:27:58] position in regards to this
[1:27:59] issue, however yours, with all
[1:28:00] due respect gives me pause.
[1:28:01] Would you alleviate my concerns
[1:28:02] today by articulate and want
[1:28:07] to, thankfully, flopped your
[1:28:08] original stands as to the fate
[1:28:09] of this building and what
[1:28:10] impetus you have personally
[1:28:11] found towards its preservation
[1:28:14] that will prevent your stance
[1:28:15] from flipping again once the
[1:28:16] scrutiny of an upcoming
[1:28:17] election is no longer a fctor
[1:28:18] in the decision.
[1:28:19] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: I'm happy
[1:28:19] to answer it.
[1:28:20] I'm not sure this is a forum so
[1:28:21] I would offer anyone the
[1:28:31] opportunity to counter also
[1:28:32] respond.
[1:28:32] In all fairness.
[1:28:33] The process of the facilities
[1:28:34] committee did have me
[1:28:38] appreciating the beauty of this
[1:28:39] building and I feel as a
[1:28:40] community if we can demonstrate
[1:28:50] how to renovate it so it can be
[1:28:51] -respond to our communities
[1:28:52] needs for the next 50 years
[1:28:53] that we are setting an example
[1:28:55] of how to do it.
[1:28:57] Recognizing that it is
[1:28:58] challenging and expensive.
[1:28:59] >>public commenter: I
[1:29:02] appreciate the drive for
[1:29:03] sustainable architecture and
[1:29:06] that sort of thing.
[1:29:16] I don't know, the cause of this
[1:29:17] comes from just an
[1:29:18] understanding of historic
[1:29:19] preservation and that notion
[1:29:20] that the greenest building is
[1:29:21] the one that is already here
[1:29:22] and if this one is such a nice
[1:29:23] one to begin with, we should do
[1:29:24] everything we can to make sure
[1:29:25] it is still around.
[1:29:27] I don't know, you see -- that
[1:29:29] got tore down across from tasty
[1:29:30] dog and all of that.
[1:29:31] It would be a shame to see the
[1:29:33] same fate of all of this.
[1:29:34] I keep driving by for many
[1:29:35] years to come.
[1:29:37] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[1:29:37] you.
[1:29:38] In all fairness, if anybody has
[1:29:39] any comment they would like to
[1:29:39] make?
[1:29:41] In response to the question I
[1:29:42] have received?
[1:29:48] Then I would welcome.
[1:29:48] Okay.
[1:29:49] Very good.
[1:29:50] Thank you for engaging with
[1:29:55] your local government.
[1:29:55] Mhm.
[1:29:57] Then back to clerk waters.
[1:30:05] >>clerk: just wanted to remind
[1:30:08] our community that we are in
[1:30:13] our second day of early voting
[1:30:14] and the so it is really
[1:30:20] important that you stop by
[1:30:21] village hall within the next
[1:30:22] week and 1/2, at this point
[1:30:23] now.
[1:30:24] We will be open from 9:00
[1:30:28] A.M.-at 5:00 P.M.
[1:30:29] Monday-saturday.
[1:30:31] On sundays from 10:00 A.M.-4
[1:30:31] pm.
[1:30:39] We are not a polling place on
[1:30:40] election day, however, you will
[1:30:41] have 18 polling locations to
[1:30:43] choose from that are inclusive
[1:30:44] of 32 different precincts.
[1:30:46] We are very lucky in that
[1:30:46] sense.
[1:30:53] Just for member to vote, local
[1:30:54] elections are important and you
[1:30:55] want to vote for your village
[1:31:01] PRESIDENT, your trustees, your
[1:31:03] clerk, who shape and create
[1:31:04] policy, your school boards for
[1:31:04] district 97, which cover
[1:31:05] kindergarten through eighth
[1:31:07] grade, district 200, which
[1:31:09] covers high school grades 9-12
[1:31:10] and even district 504, which
[1:31:12] covers triton community
[1:31:13] college.
[1:31:14] There is also the township, the
[1:31:15] park district as well a the
[1:31:15] library.
[1:31:16] That is on the ballot.
[1:31:19] I also want to make mention in
[1:31:20] celebration of a volunteer we,
[1:31:21] the village of oak park will
[1:31:26] host its second annual
[1:31:27] neighborhood cleanup on a
[1:31:29] saturday, APRIL 12 from 9:00
[1:31:32] A.M.-noon and I also wanted to
[1:31:33] make mention and think the
[1:31:35] village of oak park for
[1:31:38] allowing the clerk's office to
[1:31:39] bring forward the proclamation
[1:31:43] for black maternal health week.
[1:31:50] As a mother of four, this is a
[1:31:51] very important proclamation.
[1:31:52] It is the first.
[1:31:53] So again, I want to thank
[1:32:00] everyone and I just want to
[1:32:01] provide this quick synopsis
[1:32:02] that black maternal health week
[1:32:03] is a crucial initiative focused
[1:32:13] on raising awareness and
[1:32:14] maternal health disparities
[1:32:15] faced by black women.
[1:32:16] Advocating for equitable
[1:32:17] healthcare access and
[1:32:18] addressing the root causes of
[1:32:18] these inequities.
[1:32:20] Including systemic racism,
[1:32:21] socioeconomic factors and
[1:32:22] inadequate healthcare
[1:32:22] infrastructure.
[1:32:23] Thank you.
[1:32:25] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: at thank
[1:32:25] you.
[1:32:26] >>trustee enyia: thank you for
[1:32:27] all of these amazing
[1:32:29] proclamations.
[1:32:33] Thank you so much for joining
[1:32:33] us today.
[1:32:35] I think that is amazing, mental
[1:32:36] health is huge and to have an
[1:32:37] advocate like you will
[1:32:37] definitely help drive this in
[1:32:40] our village and there is a lot
[1:32:41] of good partners that I know
[1:32:46] are willing to help in that
[1:32:51] push for you.
[1:32:52] Really want to be think of for
[1:32:53] this population for doctor
[1:32:54] percy julian and his wife.
[1:32:55] Their contributions to this
[1:33:01] village are so, so much.
[1:33:02] I can never repay someone who
[1:33:06] has done so much for all of us
[1:33:07] and we do not even know it.
[1:33:11] Some people have no idea of the
[1:33:12] great works that he and his
[1:33:13] wife have gone through and
[1:33:14] their son who was a civil
[1:33:14] rights attorney.
[1:33:19] They are a model of what you
[1:33:25] hope for in the human spirit
[1:33:26] and condition and what they
[1:33:27] push for and strive for and the
[1:33:28] perseverance they had through
[1:33:30] all the challenges that they
[1:33:31] met here in oak park and still
[1:33:32] pushed through and wanted to
[1:33:37] make this place their home.
[1:33:38] I tried to reach out to faith
[1:33:39] and was unsuccessful, but I
[1:33:40] know she will want to see this
[1:33:41] and probably ask for the
[1:33:47] recording of this meeting.
[1:33:48] Lastly, not lastly, but I will
[1:33:49] bring up-since you brought up
[1:33:50] a volunteering.
[1:33:51] If you have a chance you can go
[1:34:03] to the (Word?) Website and they
[1:34:04] have -- they have multiple
[1:34:05] days through the month of APRIL
[1:34:06] that you can donate two hours
[1:34:07] of your time.
[1:34:08] It makes a huge difference in
[1:34:09] people's lives.
[1:34:10] Lost a friend last weekend it
[1:34:11] has been a really, really
[1:34:12] difficult week for my group of
[1:34:13] friends here in oak park.
[1:34:14] His name was colin thorpe and
[1:34:16] his family has lived here for a
[1:34:18] long, long time and still do.
[1:34:21] He was very special to this
[1:34:22] community.
[1:34:26] He was always a happy face to
[1:34:27] see on difficult days and he
[1:34:28] always had a bright smile and
[1:34:33] always, always made you feel
[1:34:33] better.
[1:34:35] We are all hurting that he is
[1:34:36] not here anymore.
[1:34:39] I just want to make sure his
[1:34:40] family knows that we are all
[1:34:48] here for them, no matter what
[1:34:49] they need.
[1:34:50] They are such a light for our
[1:34:51] community and it is so sad to
[1:34:52] see that he is not here
[1:34:52] anymore.
[1:34:53] I wanted to make sure that they
[1:34:54] know we are here for them.
[1:34:56] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[1:35:02] >>trustee straw: first I want
[1:35:03] to, you know, thank the whole
[1:35:05] board for all of these lovely
[1:35:09] proclamations that we did here
[1:35:12] tonight and I want to speak
[1:35:16] particularly to the
[1:35:17] proclamation around trans day
[1:35:18] of a visibility and just the
[1:35:23] incredible group of people who
[1:35:26] came out tonight and supported
[1:35:26] it.
[1:35:28] I have had it so many
[1:35:30] conversations over the course
[1:35:36] of the last year or two in
[1:35:40] particular with families of
[1:35:41] trans youth that have moved to
[1:35:47] oak park recently as a result
[1:35:53] of just really terrible
[1:35:54] situations in the states they
[1:35:55] were moving from and that oak
[1:35:58] park is seen as a community
[1:36:02] where they can feel safe and
[1:36:04] included, and that is an
[1:36:07] example of how the values that
[1:36:11] we are talking about at this
[1:36:14] table and our efforts around
[1:36:18] truly being an inclusive
[1:36:23] cmmunity, how meaningful they
[1:36:25] can be.
[1:36:29] That children who were
[1:36:30] suffering are able to come into
[1:36:33] our community and begin to
[1:36:34] thrive because they are ending
[1:36:38] up in a place where they feel
[1:36:42] loved and supported, and
[1:36:43] included.
[1:36:44] It is incredibly important and
[1:36:46] I is a success story for oak
[1:36:51] park and this proclamation
[1:36:56] tonight is an important part of
[1:36:57] that, making sure that
[1:36:58] community feels seen and
[1:37:01] valued, and included.
[1:37:03] You know, I want to thank the
[1:37:07] community and that the board
[1:37:09] for making that proclamation
[1:37:13] happen.
[1:37:14] And I did-I do want to
[1:37:18] respond to-a little bit to
[1:37:19] the public comment that we had
[1:37:21] here at the end.
[1:37:22] It just briefly because I feel
[1:37:25] like there has been a good
[1:37:30] amount of confusion recently
[1:37:34] around the village hall process
[1:37:40] because there is a great deal
[1:37:41] of-a great deal of space
[1:37:43] where everyone on this board
[1:37:44] agrees.
[1:37:46] We have to move forward with a
[1:37:50] new police station and that is
[1:37:53] the highest priority and it is
[1:37:57] also in every budget estimate
[1:37:59] we have seen, it is the largest
[1:38:03] portion of any facilities plan
[1:38:06] goes towards the police
[1:38:06] station.
[1:38:08] We have to take care of
[1:38:12] deferred maintenance and upkeep
[1:38:16] in the village hall.
[1:38:17] That is something that from
[1:38:18] what I've heard, there is a
[1:38:20] broad concern here on the board
[1:38:23] and from the numbers we have
[1:38:27] seen, that is in the range of
[1:38:27] $20 million.
[1:38:32] that is a place where everybody
[1:38:33] here is in agreement, I believe
[1:38:38] folks will correct me if I'm
[1:38:39] wrong, I'm sure.
[1:38:39] The disputes then just come
[1:38:41] down to end the discussion that
[1:38:44] will be ongoing comes down to
[1:38:51] how much a well renovations go
[1:38:52] beyond just deferred
[1:38:53] maintenance and upkeep and what
[1:38:55] will the timeframe be?
[1:38:59] So like, we have heard a lot of
[1:39:10] confusion and back and forth
[1:39:10] and big numbers.
[1:39:11] It is the police station, there
[1:39:17] is consensus that is going to
[1:39:17] happen.
[1:39:18] Have to figure out how much
[1:39:19] that is going to cost.
[1:39:20] It is always the largest part
[1:39:22] of every estimate we see.
[1:39:23] We have to take care of
[1:39:24] deferred maintenance and upkeep
[1:39:25] and it is just a question of,
[1:39:29] are we doing bare minimum on
[1:39:34] renovation or how big would
[1:39:35] renovation be?
[1:39:35] That is the conversation and
[1:39:36] that is the conversation we
[1:39:40] will keep having at the board
[1:39:41] table, and it is going to be a
[1:39:44] while before we are doing a yes
[1:39:46] or no vote on a particular plan
[1:39:50] with a particular budget.
[1:39:55] So we have a wild to go on that
[1:39:55] discussion.
[1:39:56] It is not going to be this
[1:40:00] exact board who is making the
[1:40:05] final decision.
[1:40:06] >>trustee wesley: I just want
[1:40:12] to say how amazing it is to be
[1:40:17] part of something that supports
[1:40:25] a year so full of awful bigotry
[1:40:26] and to see us fill these
[1:40:27] chambers up and supporting the
[1:40:28] folks that are here, supporting
[1:40:30] the friends and family of the
[1:40:34] folks that are here really does
[1:40:39] -it is a welcome beacon of
[1:40:50] hope and support in this year.
[1:40:50] that's all.
[1:40:52] >trustee parakkat: two things.
[1:40:58] One is a response to village
[1:40:59] hall situation, the fact that
[1:41:01] we were not able to discuss
[1:41:04] this, I think it deserves
[1:41:04] comment.
[1:41:11] I think the issue is that JULY
[1:41:16] 2023, we as a board made a
[1:41:17] decision that that is the only
[1:41:18] time we made a cost estimate
[1:41:23] based decision where the cost
[1:41:24] of demolition rebuild, which is
[1:41:30] option four I got selected up
[1:41:31] to $138 million.
[1:41:36] The cost of a police station is
[1:41:37] $65 million at that point in
[1:41:37] time.
[1:41:40] That is option one.
[1:41:43] The fact that we decided to go
[1:41:45] with option four is the time we
[1:41:46] indicated to everyone that we
[1:41:49] are willing to spend that kind
[1:41:51] of money on this village hall.
[1:41:56] Hundred and $14 million.
[1:41:58] They put a target on our back.
[1:41:59] Architect started seeing dollar
[1:42:04] signs on oak park and we have
[1:42:05] been having discussions over
[1:42:06] the last two years.
[1:42:11] So much so that our much-needed
[1:42:12] established need for a police
[1:42:13] facility has now been delayed
[1:42:17] by two years and we have been
[1:42:21] bogged down by the and not made
[1:42:21] any decisions yet.
[1:42:22] I think the cost, even if it is
[1:42:26] just the police facility, we
[1:42:27] should have actually had a
[1:42:28] limit or constraint placed on
[1:42:30] top of that to make sure that
[1:42:33] we are setting the stage for
[1:42:34] setting the right constraints
[1:42:37] for what is affordable to this
[1:42:37] community.
[1:42:41] I think at this point, in the
[1:42:43] last two years we have had
[1:42:48] facilities commission and other
[1:42:49] discussions interpreted through
[1:42:50] the process is pointless
[1:42:51] because we have already made
[1:42:59] the poor decision to set the
[1:43:00] stage for $114 million
[1:43:01] expenditure and that is not
[1:43:02] fair on the community.
[1:43:03] That is definitely against our
[1:43:04] values of affordability and
[1:43:04] inclusivity.
[1:43:06] That is the point in making and
[1:43:12] let's see what comes in APRIL
[1:43:13] and figure out where we go from
[1:43:16] here, but the last two years we
[1:43:20] spent $2 million on many
[1:43:21] architects and haven't gotten
[1:43:21] anywhere.
[1:43:22] The second thing, this is the
[1:43:25] last board meeting before we
[1:43:26] have the election and this is
[1:43:28] the last board meeting that I
[1:43:32] will be a trustee.
[1:43:33] I'm very glad that I was able
[1:43:36] to discuss a topic or bring to
[1:43:42] the board a topic and discuss
[1:43:42] it around food, small
[1:43:43] businesses, which is near and
[1:43:44] dear to my heart.
[1:43:46] I appreciate the opportunity
[1:43:51] and see everybody in the next
[1:43:51] session.
[1:43:54] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: thank you.
[1:43:56] It is unfortunate that we are
[1:43:58] not able to talk about the
[1:44:02] village board hall this
[1:44:03] evening.
[1:44:03] There was an appropriate time
[1:44:07] during the board agenda to have
[1:44:08] a discussion of-which wasn't
[1:44:09] just a statement and you could
[1:44:12] dialogue with your colleagues,
[1:44:18] which were all your colleagues,
[1:44:19] trustee parakkat.
[1:44:22] Colleagues have said for a year
[1:44:23] and 1/2 that they are not
[1:44:26] comfortable with $138 million.
[1:44:27] So I'm not sure that you do not
[1:44:28] trust your colleagues when they
[1:44:34] say that or what the case is,
[1:44:35] but when we voted on that, you
[1:44:36] are right, that is the estimate
[1:44:38] that was brought forward, but
[1:44:40] at the same time, the board
[1:44:41] said, when is our opportunity
[1:44:49] to challenge that amount
[1:44:50] because all we were voting on
[1:44:51] was building up a new police
[1:44:52] station, which as brian has
[1:44:53] said many times is the lion
[1:44:59] share of any cost and that we
[1:45:00] will have renovation that will
[1:45:05] be necessary and we will have
[1:45:06] maintenances in the building
[1:45:07] that will be necessary and then
[1:45:09] we have values of which we all
[1:45:10] weighed in on values in a
[1:45:14] session and our entire process
[1:45:15] has been to bring us as much
[1:45:20] information as possible so we,
[1:45:22] as responsible elected
[1:45:23] individuals can make our
[1:45:30] decision based on as much
[1:45:31] information as possible.
[1:45:32] This board has been very
[1:45:33] careful on all of or decisions
[1:45:36] to center affordability and to
[1:45:37] -we challenge regularly making
[1:45:41] sure that we have a high level
[1:45:46] of information in making our
[1:45:46] decisions.
[1:45:47] So it has been a joint process
[1:45:49] of which we have all been able
[1:45:52] to weigh in on.
[1:45:58] So we decided, as a board, the
[1:45:59] consensus of the board was new
[1:46:02] police station is the priority.
[1:46:07] We addressed maintenance and
[1:46:08] rehab and as brian said, how
[1:46:16] much we have or the ability to
[1:46:17] phase in has been said many
[1:46:17] times.
[1:46:18] We all said, when will we be
[1:46:19] able to challenge what the cost
[1:46:20] was when we made that vote?
[1:46:22] It was just deciding the
[1:46:23] direction and working with an
[1:46:26] architect, with our staff to
[1:46:27] challenge and then find where
[1:46:31] our comfort zone was.
[1:46:32] I will say, since we have our
[1:46:34] wednesday journal in the room,
[1:46:43] I did not say under $100,000.
[1:46:44] that would also be me
[1:46:45] perpetrating a false narrative
[1:46:46] and I am not about that.
[1:46:47] There is no way it will be
[1:46:49] under $100,000.
[1:46:49] $100 million.
[1:46:51] I don't know why it is such a
[1:46:57] challenge to be quoted
[1:47:00] properly, but the police
[1:47:04] station itself will most
[1:47:05] definitely need to be under
[1:47:07] that in order for us to have
[1:47:11] any reasonable budget.
[1:47:25] Maybe-I literally just read.
[1:47:25] Otherwise, yes.
[1:47:26] Your colleagues have been
[1:47:27] together in the saying they are
[1:47:28] not comfortable with $130
[1:47:29] million yet.
[1:47:31] That number keeps going out
[1:47:32] there, disrespecting her
[1:47:34] colleagues and the staff.
[1:47:35] I would rather concentrate on
[1:47:41] the beautiful night we had with
[1:47:42] all of the-those in the
[1:47:44] transgender community who came
[1:47:49] out and their allies in such a
[1:47:52] beautiful way and I think,
[1:47:53] again, my colleagues and staff
[1:47:59] in our village clerk for
[1:48:00] supporting this proclamation
[1:48:03] and the idea of really, truly
[1:48:09] embracing and being a safe
[1:48:10] place for all.
[1:48:11] Have a good evening.
[1:48:15] I entertain a motion to
[1:48:15] adjourn.
[1:48:16] >> so moved.
[1:48:16] >> second.
[1:48:18] >>PRESIDENT Scaman: all in
[1:48:18] favor,