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>>> >>president scaman: welcome. It is 7:01 pm.

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I call this regular meeting of the village board to order. Clerk waters, please take the

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role. >>clerk waters: trustee eder, here, trustee enyia, here,

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trustee leving-jacobson, here, trustee straw, here, trustee taglia, here, trustee wesley -

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president scaman. >>president scaman: here. We do have quorum present.

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entertain a motion to approve the agenda as has been presented.

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>>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second. >>president scaman: motion by

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trustee eder and second by trustee straw. All in favor?

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(multiple speakers) aye. Ms.

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>>president scaman: okay, moving forward to non-agenda public comment this evening.

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hello, please - and if you will bear with me for just oe second - do we have loretta

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ragsdale here? Jane miller? Rosario?

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please, would you join us? Right up here at the microphone and you have three minutes,

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sir. Thank you for joining us. >>speaker: I have been a

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resident of oak park for 63 years. I live in a building that I was

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born in. And my parents - in the last year or two I have had a

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considerable problem with parking in my driveway. Parkway driveways are 11 and a

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there is not a car that is produced today that are shorter than 11 and a half feet long.

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I've got probably 50 or 60 tickets in my driveway for parking over the curb line and

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parking over the sidewalk line. When I did a (name) of the village I am the only person

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last time I received tickets he they were on the driveway and I have a vehicle which I

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explained to parking enforcement will not pass eissions and I have a covered

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and they continue to give me tickets and I cannot move you and I cannot pass emissions.

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I get tickets for having plates and not having plates on the vehicle.

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a girl driving excessively slammed into the cars on my parkway both of which were

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total. The village was out there an hour and and a half later for

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my tickets being stuck in the street and being in the street. I argued about those and

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received those tickets. Every morning I walk my dog. Here's a car less than a block

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away completely parking on the sidewalk. Here's another one on the

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sidewalk ad here's another one - and I have gotten for having for more than the vehicle than

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that on the sidewalk. Here's another one. Here's another one.

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completely blocking the sidewalk. This is the way that I parked

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there I a mailbox at the y. Corner and I always shovel during wintertime and there is

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more than enough path for people to go on the driveway, this was my suburban that was

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total that I got tickets for having plates on it and then not having plates on it and

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having expired plates and this was pushed out industry and an hour and and a half later there

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were four officers that gave me nine tickets and three for this one, two or three or four for

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another vehicle that was in my driveway. There is plenty of space to

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walk on and it is not an issue. I have to have three more tickets now - these are also

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pictures that I have taken a vehicles in the street. None of them get tickets.

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I seem to be singled out. I have kind of had enough of it.

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licensed attorney and I will have to proceed to court if I cannot get this issue resolved.

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I've heard all types of different stories from parking enforcement about how if it

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sticks over the street they have the right to do it - every car sticks over the street that

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is parked in the driveway. They are just simply too short for a modern vehicle.

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some part of a vehicle will be either sticking over on a sidewalk or over the curb.

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and I think they really need to review this law or these ordinances, because it is

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expensive and you cannot comply - if you prking a driveway perpendicular or horizontal,

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your vehicle is going to stick out onto the sidewalk or onto the street and I don't know why

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I'm being singled out, but there is a lot of other people that are not getting tickets

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and blocking substantially more of the sidewalk or way further in the street than I.

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>>president scaman: thank you for sharing. I do have your contact

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information. So, I'll share that with staff contact. Ask for additional

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thank you for being here. Melanie. >>melanie: hello, I am melanie

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weiss and I live at 215 clinton avenue in oak park. I am here, because I feel like

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it is my responsibility to keep this and the board and the village 's year which is that I

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know that we did get rid of the flock camera system and I believe it was december 2025, I

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could be wrong. But, there was an incident in front of my house where the

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person who did battery to a ups driver making a delivery to my home and also was spending the

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whole day waiting in front of my house for a delivery that he was trying to steal from my

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house that the ups driver was incredible and he yelled out the license plate of this man

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who was trying to mace him and hurt him to steal this package in front of my house and this

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happened on december 18, 2024 and I happen to be like looking outside my window washing this

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whole thing happened which was crazy. And the ups driver had the

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foresight to call in the license plate right away and this person was caught driving

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away in the village ad he had a long rap sheet and I had a hard time - I had fraud in my

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account from him and he stole my credit card information and it was a lot of problems that I

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had and I am just explaining to you one situation that was resolved very quickly and

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successfully because of flock and I understand that there are problems, but I would hope that

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with the way things are much more sophisticated now both with criminals and technology

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that there is another way that the village cn look at having some type of license plate

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reader or some type of technology to support the police, because I'm just

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telling you one story, but for me it was a really big deal. And it was really important and

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this person needed to be caught and he was only caught because of the flock camera system.

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and I hope that the village does put that seriously on their priority list to look at

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other ways that they can support the police and give them license plate reader

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technology and other technologies to help, because this person was very scary and

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dangerous in our village. And was only caught because of flock.

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thank you. >>president scaman: thank you. All right.

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maybe I don't even need that - okay, so - (name)? No?

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okay. We do have a copy of her public comment for the record that I

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can share with staff. Special education transit contractors repeatedly failed

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t provide federally mndated bus aids for my son who has autism and seizure disorders.

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I will share this along with the parking public comment. Is there anyone else here for

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non-agenda public comment this evening? Frank and then frank and I

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don't know who would like to go first. >>speaker: (away from mic).

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>>frank: my name is frank v. You guys know me well because I am always here - I am always

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here giving my position on single-family, the elimination of single-family zoning.

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but, tonight want to talk about something else that is very important to me.

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before I start, though, I would like us to remember that we lost to great american today.

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someone who many people thought was a hick and a right-wing and was a hoagie and that person

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would be dolly parton. Mrs. Parton gave many hours and many millions of dollars to

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support progressive causes to include the fight against covid and for the vaccine.

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as a musician, I feel great sadness, because I did not always like music, but she was

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a great musician and a great american. To you about my concern about

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what is happening with policing in oak park. By the way, I am pro police.

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if you ever see me by a police car it is because I'm walking up and saying thank you to that

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officer for what they do. If it were not for them, I don't believe that I would live

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here. My neighborhood would be dangerous without the police.

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despite their best efforts, I have had a break-in where I a second break-in where I had ,

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home damage, but luckily the guy was scared of my dog so he did not take anything and I had

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my garage broken into, lost two cars, bicycles and tools. But, still, the fact was that

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the police were there and they helped us and as a matter of fact it was a police officer

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that told me I had been broken into. Safety when I see those blue

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and white cars. I appreciate them. The police department and even

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when I get pulled over I appreciate them. Maybe - I am hispanic but also

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an old guy - they think they should give me a break - but, every time that I have been

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pulled over I have been wrong and every time I was wrongly pulled over I was educated.

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and by the way, I am a better driver now. Now, this does not mean that I

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do not have criticism of our police force. Force that respects the law and

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are citizens and human rights. Wrong, we need to intervene,

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because a law will not have respect if we do not have the log respecting us.

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when I was a commissioner on the crc I brought up an issue where one of my fellow

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commissioners had been harassed by oak park police and my chairman was too much of a suck

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up, pardon my speech and after there was a death because of a really hard for us to hold

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hearings and we were told that we could not because of the open meetings act law and

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luckily the police and dan haley were able to do wat we could not.

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>>president scaman: frank, we are at three minutes if you are able to come to a close.

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>>frank: the thing I want to ask - one, why is it that police cars are not patrolling

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anymore? I just see them sitting by the roads.

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two, I have not seen anything in the local papers about something that scared the crap

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out of me. On a saturday night, sunday morning there were at least 100

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kids running down my block. I read in the paper what happened where there was a

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problem in chicago and they moved here and they took over the shell station and luckily

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the state police, forest park moved them out and then chicago and nine suburbs including our

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own got these people out of my neighborhood. I was in my house afraid.

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I cannot leave my own house. If we talk about getting rid of police or cutting back police

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or not getting respectable police, those of us who are in an area with a potential for

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high crime - who was going to protect us? I do not own a weapon.

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>>president scaman: I will keep yours with everyone else's so that I can share your contact

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information with frank. Thank you again for joining us. And the other frank.

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and then mr. Donovan. >>frank: frank s. The scottish poet robert burns left two

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lines to us that have stuck with me since high school and they go like this - without god

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the gifted deist to see ourselves as others see us? And I'm here tonight to give

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you a gift that god did not. I have three things I want to say.

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first is to those board members who others see as bound and determined to put through the

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proposals for the zoning changes. I would like to concentrate on

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a remark that ever used several times. And that is that we have been

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working on this for years. Something that is probably different than what it was

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intended to, because I think it ties into something that I find to be a common and if not

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universal human trait. And that is that the longer that we are set in the past

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that we have chosen to walk down, the harder it is to step back and re-examine our

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thinking. Where we correct? It through?

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reason for doubt? Particularly we are good people of will approaching problems

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with conviction, ideological, moral, well-intentioned, noble and desirable goals.

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inertia can in my opinion make people blind to plain facts and in this case I would say clear

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economic loss and render an inability to reconsider evidence and new reasoning.

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and just mind you, potentially to the fact that this whole idea just will not work for the

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goals at wich it was intended and has the potential to make things worse.

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I hope I am wrong. I hope that you are not in the tunnel or that you have come

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out or will come out, but that is how I feel that a great many people see.

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the second thing was for trustee wesley, but since he is not here, I can shorten this.

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the third thing is to trustee taglia - to those of us who see you as a hero and a model of

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prudence, caution, sound analysis and based on sound economics, I wish that I were

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able to bring in mail sacks full of mail and dumped them on the floor like in the miracle

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on 34th street with the letters that prove chris crinkle is santa claus.

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and not like the letters dumped in the well of the senate in mr. Smith goes to washington,

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because those were all written up by the opposition and if you want to know how that ended,

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you will have to watch the movie again. But, to me - the fact is that

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we truly - I hope others will join you. And with that I will be abroad

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for a while and so no one will be able to tell me what I look like to others which I am not

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entirely sure I want to know, but I will be back. >>president scaman: thank you.

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mr. Donovan? >>speaker: hello, my name is chris donovan, 373 s. Elmwood,

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ridgeland and van buren and it has been great progress for safety reasons and instead of

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having those we trust you signs that have you stop and intersection there putting up

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those lights making it easier and safer for people and myself and especially schoolchildren

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school.ack and forth longfellow so, that is great. However yesterday I was coming

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up ridgeland avenue coming north and I found about both directions they put in

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something where there can be no left turns off of ridgeland onto van buren which I think

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may have been a little bit of an overkill, but more than that if it is driving people down to

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the lights to make a left turn at either harrison or at jackson - traffic congestion at

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those intersections trying to make a left-hand turn is really difficult.

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look like at this time temporary diversions are going to be permanent, can there be a

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left-hand turn signal install both at jackson and at harrison to make a left turn their

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easier and safer. You for your time and look forward to hearing your

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consideration. >>president scaman: thank you. Any other non-agenda public

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comment today? Please. Thank you.

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>>speaker: hello, joseph b, oak park resident for the last seven years and I did not

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prepare anything today and I have not for the last two times to speak about the same issue

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which is zoning and I am here on the record that I would like the board to slow down and

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think about what the ramifications of and would be of this change.

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I know now that we have six information sessions crammed into roughly 30 or so days

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before there is maybe sme more public comment followed by a decision in october which is

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less than two months away. I would encourage the board to look for other solutions to

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this issue. I think a lot of them have been raised at the last few meetings

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that I have attended and I would love to see some of those ideas be thought of as

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alternatives to a wide sweeping change that I think the community is largely against

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and I think you know we are going to find out the reaction if this passes and I hope the

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board will take everyone 's comments under advisement and I hope that the board will attend

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these six information sessions and really listen to what people have to say and I think

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the gentleman appear before about not having television on this is going to be what is

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best for the community. Thank you. >>president scaman: thank you.

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any other non-agenda public comment? All right, excellent.

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thank you for joining us again. Proclamation or women's

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equality annually on the 26th of august. Entertain a motion, please.

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>>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second. >>president scaman: motion by

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trustee leving-jacobson and second by trustee straw and typically I do spread this out

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amongst the women on the board and so my apologies, but I will share it and appreciate all of

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the women leaders in our community, particularly those in service.

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equality day, observed annually on august 26, commemorates the certification of the

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nineteenth amendment to the united states constitution, a landmark

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achievement that affirmed women's legal right to vote and transformed the american

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electorate; and whereas, this day honors the courageous women-organizers,

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trailblazers, and everyday citizens-who, despite exclusion and injustice, stood

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up and spoke out to claim their place in democracy. We also recognize that for many women,

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especially women of color, indigenous women, and immigrant women, full access to the vote

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and equal participation in civic life came only after generations of continued

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whereas, while some women gained the right to vote in 1920, native american women

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were not recognized as citizens until 1924, chinese american women until 1943, japanese and

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other asian american women until 1952, and black women faced ongoing suppression until

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the passage of the voting rights act in 1965. These milestones

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reflect both the resilience of women and the persistent need to

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defend equity in every generation; and whereas, women's equality day

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challenges us to reflect not only on the victories of the past but also on the

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pressing work ahead - to ensure that all women, including transgender

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and women of all races, lities, ethnicities, and socioeconomic backgrounds, are fully included

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in our civic, social, and economic life; and whereas, we further recognize

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and thank the women in public service roles - elected officials, municipal leaders,

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and government staff - whose leadership, vision, and dedication

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shape policy, advocate for justice, and ensure inclusive governance at all levels; and

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whereas, oak park's history of progress and commitment to equity is strengthened

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every day by women who organize, speak up, run for office, lunch businesses, lead

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families, and reimagine the future. We reaffirm our belief that every

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girl and woman deserves the opportunity to thrive, lead, and live free from

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discrimination or limitation now therefore, I, vicki scaman, president of the village of oak

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park and board of hereby proclaim august 26, 2026, as women's equality day

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in the village of oak park. We invite all residents to reflect on the sacrifices

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made by those who came before us, celebrate the women leading in

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our community today, and recommit t a future where equality

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is not just a value, but a lived reality - for all women. Thank you.

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all in favor? (multiple speakers)

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aye. >>president scaman: wonderful. Thank you.

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and we will move to the village manager report. I do think that I have some

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public comment here, as well. Public comment first? >>manager jackson: yes, sure.

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>>president scaman: very good. Mary reynolds. >>manager jackson: I will go

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ahead and introduce it and then to the public comment. So, we have mary reynolds,

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director from the early childhood collaboration doing a presentation on our updated iga

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agreement between the village of oak park and district 297. The board of the early

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collaboration for childhood consists of representatives of each of the jurisdictions and

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representing the village of oak park is president scaman, trustee and myself and there

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was a working group that was formed and over the last year that will be sort of looking at

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the outcome that is presented tonight with this updated iga. And I think that will pause

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right there and do public comment and then we will invite mary up to the podium to

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provide an overview of the iga and also by the way the iga, the updated iga appears on the

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consent agenda as item I. >>president scaman: ecellent. I have doctor catherine eason.

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everyone. I am doctor kaplan -- catherine eason.

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thank you for this opportunity to speak on behalf of the iga and I hail from chicago on the

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south side and if we had anything similar to what the village has here in oak park,

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we would be a phenomenal city, right? The collaboration has been a

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great part in my trajectory and I cannot imagine along with your help to continue the

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longevity and the services that we offer here in oak park is a privilege to be here to speak

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to you and also on behalf and collaboration of work. The support is definitely

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needed. Early childhood education is the foundation of everything

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that we hold dear. If we do not support those efforts, I don't know where our

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children would be and that is why I am happy to speak and ask that you cntinue to support

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the collaboration and mary reynolds and what it is that they do for the village of oak

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park and the families of the oak park area. I want to say thank you also

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for the emergency loan that you provided for the nursery, it has put us in a positive spot

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and in a great position to partner with the organization that may be able to offer more

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services. So, again I ask again that you continue to support the

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collaboration of oak park and early childhood education. Thank you.

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>>president scaman: thank you. And mr. Donovan, are you speaking on this one or later

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that consent? The early childhood collaboration - no?

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okay. (name)? I have been in oak park

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resident for four years when my husband and I moved here I was a new mom arriving in a city

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where I knew no one and was hours away from my village. When I found the collaboration

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it was such a lifeline and my four month old signed up for the partnering and parents

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program and was able to get the sound information and the support that I needed as a

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first-time parent with a million questions and in every step of my mother journey so

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far I have been able to find an advocate into collaboration ad attended programs, massage,

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potty training, cpr, joined neighborhood play dates, completed developmental

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screenings and even a parent leadership training that helped me to see that I have not lost

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any of the dreams that I had before I became a parent. With every program I have

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attended I have built the community I was missing. The collaboration helps me find

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my footing as a parent and I'm asking the village to continue to invest in family and

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community by investing in the work of the collaboration for early childhood.

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glenn brewer? Good evening, my name is glenn, a member of the collaboration

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for early childhood board of directors. I was on the village board in

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2013 when we first signed the intergovernmental agreement that formalized the village 's

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relationship with the collaboration and I supported it then because I believed

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investing in young children was one of the smartest things a community could do.

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the research has been clear for decades, public investment in early childhood returns between

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four and nine dollars for every dollar spent through long-term and even multigenerational

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impact. When children have access to high-quality early childhood

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programming we see higher employment, lower incarceration rates and a stronger families

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both now and when those children grew up and become parents themselves.

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I stay convinced from a distance and I also joined the board of directors because the

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collaboration has earned that involvement. It operates with transparency

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and efficiency, execute with excellence and stays genuinely responsive to what children,

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families and early childhood professionals in this community need.

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I see this again and again at the board table. Oak park has long prided itself

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on putting its values into practice and refreshing disagreement is one of those

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moments. A positive impact and well-developed and

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wll-documented and community tested and I urge your continued support.

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okay, is there any other public comment on early childhood collaboration?

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moses? Please do - >>moses: how is everyone?

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good evening president scaman, village trustees - village manager jackson.

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my name is moses valdes and I am a business owner in the hemingway district, president

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of the hemingway district board and a lifelong oak park resident.

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and I'm here tonight in support of the collaboration for early childhood.

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I will be honest that I did not always think of early childhood as a business issue, but over

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the years I have seen firsthand what happens when families with welcome in a neighborhood and

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it has changed the way I think about community investment. The collaboration has been an

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incredible partner and asset to the hemingway district from the recent construction block party

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to the annual fall family fun fest, they bring hundreds of families into our neighborhood,

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including the very youngest oak parkers and this translates into business and families who

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feel connected and want to put down roots here like my family did in 1978.

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the collaboration does not only bring families to the hemingway district, they draw all of the

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big things in town like oktoberfest and the kids edition of thursday 's night

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out. They do this really cute thing where they put crochet pigs and

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the windows of stores and they make a treasure hunt for kids to find the pigs in the

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windows. And they do this in different business districts which I have

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seen in the arts district and pleasant district and downtown oak park and of course

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hemingway district. The youngest kids at each of these events are tomorrow 's

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neighbors, employees, customers, and maybe even future business owners in our

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community. Supporting children, families, and the community that

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surrounds them, the collaboration helps build the kind of place where people want

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to be. And that is good for everyone, including those of us running

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businesses in this community. Oak park has always understood that investing in people pays

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off. And there is no finer example of this than our community 's

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long-term ivestment in early childhood. I am asking the board to

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continue to put your support for the collaboration for early childhood.

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thank you. >>president scaman: thank you for joining us.

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village manager jackson. >>manager jackson: thank you president scaman and as we

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introduce mary I want to aknowledge the good work from our staff, jack malik and help

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from kevin w and always grateful for the work that the collaboration is doing and a

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product of the head start program myself and I am super excited about the work that we

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continue to do in community. And I will turn it over to mary.

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>>mary: mary reynolds, thank you so much for having me. Thank you - at the

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collaboration for early childhood. I love any chance I get to talk

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about the partnership between the collaboration in the village and so thank you for

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having me for a few moments. Just to ground our conversation I am here to talk about - it is

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a mouthful, the intergovernmental agreement pertaining to the purchase of

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early childhood services. Between district 200, 97 and you all at the village of oak

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park, that iga led your three parties to enter into the contract for early childhood

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services with us at the collaboration. As you probably know that is a

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really innovative approach and a very meaningful way for the village to reach out into the

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community and shape the experiences of our very any chance I get I also like to

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name early childhood education as essential community infrastructure.

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the early care and education sector employs more than 600 people across oak park and

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river forest and that enables workforce participation for parents and caregivers and that

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allows children to have enriching learning experiences and when that sector is strong,

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families stay put, businesses thrive and our community grows. And also a lovely moment to

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pause and say thank you. The village is just an incredible partner -- this sets

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them up for success as both students and as neighbors and helps us build a oak park where

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people of all background can thrive. There you are.

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the village board, you're all set really ambitious goals for the community and when I look

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at those goals you know I am biased about this, but I see early childhood throughout.

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community health and safety we know starts well before kindergarten.

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we know that advantage and disadvantage accumulate over time and that the early years

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are when we have a wonderful and amazing opportunity that can move us towards a more

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racially equitable society. The vibrant connected neighborhoods that are a part

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of your board goals happen when your family still rooted and supported and challenged with

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access to affordable high-quality education are families that can afford to

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stay in thrive here. We have the collaboration to work with our families and

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especially those who start life furthest from opportunity so they have access to the kind of

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experience is that set them up for success in direct service of your village goals.

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now she cannot do two things - answer before I jump into the iga refresh, it is a good thing

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to take a look at what our partnership looks like in practice peer over the years

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we've had the chance to work alongside village staff and elected officials in so many

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ways and some of the community events that you see here and on shared priorities and the

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neighborhoods where families live and we are very proud of that relationship and grateful

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for that relationship and excited to continue building on that.

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and so as village manager jackson mentioned with the foundation in mind in the

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spring of 2025 at a iga governing board meeting, all three parties agreed that it

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was time to take a fresh look at the agreement which was originally signed in 2013.

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there were some things in a document that were not working as well as they should and some

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other good faith issues that had built up over time that needed to be addressed.

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and so the parties formed a ad hoc working group and this slide captures how they framed

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the purpose of that. There were also financial aspect of the agreement that

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needed updating including that the funding had unintentionally leveled out and then been flat

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since 2017. To add a little bit of further context, between 2017 when the

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contract amount leveled and 2020, the collaboration actually still was not billing

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to the full amount available to us. As I said, this is a pretty

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innovative experience and a unique approach to early childhood work and work models

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and other communities that we can look to to say what is the staffing structure look like?

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how do you build up this kind of data infrastructure? We are functioning in many ways

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as a start up and developing the staffing pattern and standing up the home visiting

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and data partnership ad growing into the model. The first several years there

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were lots of things to figure out which led to under billing and at those funds that were

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under billed were put into a reserve account that you will hear a little bit more about in

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a bit. By 2020 we were billing the full contract amount, but we

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have been able to bridge the gap between what the contract covers and what the work

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atually costs through arpa funds administered by you at the vllage of oak park and

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those funds and december 31 of this year. So, the workgroup addressed

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both the administrative pain points and the financial structure in their work

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together over the last year. On the governance side they have recommended simple changes

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that will make a practical difference and one is moving from a single tear into cochair

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which allows for continuity and rotating the hosting responsibility every two years

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instead of every year which again allows for some continuity.

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the workgroup also updated language throughout the agreement to better reflect the

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party 's deep agreement to equity, replacing deficit -based framing for children and

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families and with language that is more accurate and aligned with shared values.

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and the workgroup also made three significant financial recommendations and I will go

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through each of those individually. So, the first is contribution

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ratios or how the cost of the contract is divided across the three parties.

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to make a fair comparison across the village budget and a school district budget, the

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parties looked at each entity operating fund and for the village that is the general

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fund and for the school district that is the education fund.

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and then staff, including kevin b who is a joy to work with as person, I do not say that nce

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lightly. Reviewed and compared looking at things like police and fire

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pensions which schools do not have. And figuring out which costs to

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back out of the total budget of each entity so that we were looking comparing like for like

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in terms of the total budget and so that those budgets would be as comparable as possible.

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and we call those what you see here as adjusted primary funds. You see the amount that those

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primary funds were in 2012 and the adjusted primary funds and how the budgets have grown

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since then, especially noting that the 97 has had operating referendum and the size of the

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budget relative to one another have also shifted. And the way the workgroup

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recommends the cost is distributed be shifted to match those new ratios of budget

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comparisons. The scond financial component of this is looking at adjusting

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the contract amount so that we do not find ourselves back here with a big gap to cover with

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year-over-year flat which is better for everyone from a planning and balancing the many

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priorities that you have perspective. Built into the agreement is a

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formula which is very similar to how school districts budgets grow over time and it uses a 4%

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cap instead of 5% as also a review so everyone has time to plan and balance the many

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priorities that they have. And the third part of this is resetting the contribution

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amounts. So, the original agreement with the primary adjusted - the

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adjusted primary funds that we just looked at, the original agreement with the

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collaboration was that each party was contributing .85% of that adjusted primary fund.

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that began dropping as the party 's budgets grew and it is currently at about .53% of

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those adjusted primary funds. So, the workgroup looked at one time reset to address this with

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scenarios ranging from .75% back up to the .85% that was originally in the agreement and

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they ultimately agreed on .8% based on analysis by cfos as well as asked andy

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collaboration with the working budget on the ongoing fundraising efforts.

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the workgroup also looked at the iga rserve account which I mentioned which was the account

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where understanding was held and we smoothed these increases over the next several years, 10

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years with no increase is a big job and the reserve account gives us a way to phase those

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increases in to reduce the party 's payment amount as we get back up to that.8%.

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so, this is also president scaman o the slide wich is just a - this is the iga reset

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in a nutshell. This work really stabilizes the foundation that we have built

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together over more than a decade. And I want to say that we do

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not take that partnership for granted. We are so grateful for the

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work. Your work is well recognized beyond oak park and some of you

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know last summer that we hosted the staff team for early learning funding equity which

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is a national funding organization that consults on equity and early childhood and

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they came to here in oak park specifically to learn about this model and approach to

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local support of early childhood. I am very regularly asked by

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early childhood leaders what magically worked in oak park and I get to say that we are

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fortunate to work with partners including the village who understand that the conditions

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that children experience in their first five years of life shape everything that comes

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after and investing in those years is one of the most community can do and we are

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very grateful for that. And with that I will move us away from vicki looking cute in

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costumes and welcome your >>mary: would you like me to go back to vicki looking cute?

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>>president scaman: no, no, no! Thank you, though. I always love doing it!

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there was a time where my granddaughter like hit the nose of - the big pig - all right.

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questions and discussions? Also, I did think of the law firm and all of the work that

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they put into it, greg smith and missing him today, but brooke, welcome.

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thank you. Questions, comments? Brian?

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00:45:23,121 --> 00:45:26,259
don't have a question, but thank you to you and of the early childhood andy

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00:45:26,259 --> 00:45:30,930
collaboration for early childhood. I was saying to you earlier

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that you guys are they under told success story of oak park and I am constantly in awe with

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what the founders of the collaboration was able to do because it is not easy starting

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something like this and across multiple governing is entities and it is something

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that I know folks aound the country are able to see. And at the same time it is

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under told success stories of progressive governance in oak park.

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and I am proud that we get to vote to continue to support it today and I think that this is

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something that I always view as a model for what we should be figuring out and how we can

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move forward. Eder: I also don't have a question, just commentary.

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I said as was mentioned I sit on the iga board and the working group for the

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collaborative and I've seen up cose firsthand just all of the amazing work you do and how

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accountable and transparent and joyful all the work that you do is and I'm extremely happy to

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be a part of it and I did not know that I would be on it when I joined this board, but I'm

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very grateful that I am. It is very rewarding work. And it is also a great

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opportunity to work with our colleagues as was mentioned at the district, as well.

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in addition to all of the amazing programs that the collaborative does, I also just

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want to give a shout out to something that I think is also a under told story which is the

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data aspect of things which sorry, I am the data guy, but it is truly - from a selfish

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perspective, it is a resource that I think a lot of other communities and other

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decision-making bodies get to have access to and you are tracking student outcomes from

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very early age, birth all the way to adulthood and it is very rare to be able to see that

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kind of high-fidelity information and actually use it as a way to measure the

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outcomes of the policies that we are trying to pass here at the board.

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so, we can actually use this information to help see whether or not the policies that we

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have are having an impact that we want thanks to this data. And it is really a benefit to

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the village and we are getting our money's worth for sure in many dimensions.

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but, I just wanted to call that one out in particular. Again, very spportive and

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looking forward to continuing the collaboration. >>president scaman: thank you.

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trustee enyia? >>trustee enyia: I will try to think about things to say - I'm

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kidding, I'm kidding! I could not. I honestly could not.

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you kow I am biased and I have advantage of some of the ke programs and I look at my son

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and I see it every day. And knowing those things gets me - when I - I was like do not

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look directly at them you will get choked up thinking about the stuff, but when you know

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that it has an impact on people's everyday lves, the person or the people that they

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can end up being because they have opportunity as the doctor was saying you know I worked on

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the south side and I worked on the west side and managed eight different buildings for cps and

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I see children everyday that are impacted and some negative ways because they don't have

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enough funding to do positive programming to keep kids on the right track, but also to catch

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them to say hey like my son with a speech impediment, finding out that there are

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with that could be a detriment later in life. So, I am just very very

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grateful every time I get to see you and the work that you continue to do and I just don't

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think our community knows enough about it because had my wife not been that person going

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through all of the things and figuring out that there was help we can get for our kid.

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we would not know. So, I am just very thankful and I have nothing to say but good

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things. >>president scaman: trustee wesley.

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>>trustee wesley: quite frankly just some of the best money we have spent.

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a couple things - I also don't have any questions or anything - and the first thing I want to

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say is that this is a great example of cross government collaboration and it shows that

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it is possible to do this successfully in oak park and to do it well him to do it in a

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way that benefits the entire village and to do it in a way where it works so seamlessly

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that no one ever hears about it! Like that is just an amazing

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thing. And so I just would ask anyone when we talk about or think

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about cross governmental collaboration, look at the collaboration.

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because, we can do it here and it has been successful for the entire village.

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the last thing I want to do is read a small couple sentences from your website and I may

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have done this the last time you were here. But, I just think that this is

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so cool and not a lot of people know - inspired by the collaboration 's model, state

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senator don harmon originated legislation that established the illinois early learning

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council. Later, as a former state senator, president obama

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proposed a national early learning council based on the one in illinois.

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so, this thing that w are talking about here made it all the way to dc.

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that is amazing. That shows what this village can do.

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we had this opportunity and I just felt like that neded to be elevated.

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thank you for all of the work that you do. And I am very happy to vote yes

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taglia: I actually have some questions. And I'm afraid if I will be

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asked to participate in the parade at some point during halloween that I may be asked

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to dress up as the scrooges! But, thank you for all of your work and your exchanges and it

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has been very helpful and tucker and others and thank you for filling in a lot of the

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information questions that I had and I can see some of the luminaries of the collaboration

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and bob and gordon, of course for many years, treasurer. I have no issue and really this

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is a internal issue and questions on the issue - but, I have no issue with the work and

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strongly in support of the collaboration and I have been on the board for several years

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of course and I do have some questions on the funding. And based on the information

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and the schedule, here comes kevin - >>mary: thank goodness!

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>>trustee taglia: this is really a village question - and so although the amount we are

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contribute in, the percentage is going to decline, the amount is going to increase and kevin

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can tell you if you look at the first four years that the first year is $90,000 and if you add

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it up over four years it is a 40% increase and I am just asking how are we going to pay

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for that? Where is the money coming from, the extra money, the 600,000

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and again, you can look at the numbers and just tally them up - that is what it is.

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and I'm just saying how we do that? Are going to get the money. We

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>>speaker: cfo for the village of oak park, kevin b, this has been budgeted in the general

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fund since the inception. There was some relief during the pandemic due to arpa

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funding as was mentioned in the presentation, that funding is ending december 31 and as we

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move forward - it will move back to the general fund as a baseline service at the village

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so, we will continue as of 2027 budget is proposed, that line item you know these expenditure

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investments will be included in te general fund as a baseline operating expense.

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in terms of then how and where the funding is coming from, obviously anything that is

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coming into the general fund is supported by the top 25 major revenues including sales tax,

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income tax, tax levy itself and because this has been a part of the baseline budget, we have

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not outlined the separate expenditures and it is similar to how we are budgeting for any

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other department that the village has. And we are not necessarily

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outlining that funding specifically for one line item, it is just included in all of

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the different revenues that we are getting and coming into the general fund.

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time, the 2027 budget is going to be including this updated amount and that is including

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you know the general fund as you pointed out and our conversation is coming up

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during the budget conversation once we get to the operating side.

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it is one of the reasons why we and I appreciate the collaboration including this

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information in their was that we wanted to make sure that in march, early in our fiscal year

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that we have a window if you will to look into what that increase is going to look like

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so we can adjust the budget meaning if the board 's position is that we are not

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going to increase the levy by 3%, that expenditure needs to be accounted for just as any

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other department. So, it is a long-winded answer to say this is included in the

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baseline and it will be included in the baseline 2027 budget which is supported by

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the tax levy and sales tax, income tax and all of the other fees that are going into the

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general fund. >>trustee taglia: thank you. And this is no reflection on

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low collaboration, this is a village issue which we really have to keep that in mind as we

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approach our budget, we have many demands put on us and this is an additional demand that we

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will have to figure out a way to pay for this and in a way that we were nt doing

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00:57:00,758 --> 00:57:06,764
previously. Investment and we strongly believe that and thank you for

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all that you have done. And we will work it out and w will have to figure it out.

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thank you. >>president scaman: thank you. Any other comments?

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>>trustee leving-jacobson: I will echo the support and gratitude.

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very grateful also for the public comments that echo just the range of impact that the

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collaboration 's work has in the community and I think that was really valuable to hear

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from the perspective and I am a big fan, as well and partnering with the early childhood

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collaboration and joining this board around public safety topics and gun violence in

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prevention and I appreciated the slide how you pointed out our investment in this

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partnership reflects our commitment to those goals. So, I'll not take too much

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time, but I agree with what my colleagues have said and I am very grateful for staff as well

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inputting the work - the real work in the agreement. So, yes.

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>>president scaman: okay, so - just real briefly, trustee taglia did mentioned bob s and

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gordon and nora are here and you have a platform if there is anything that you would like us

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to know next. No? Okay.

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that one! Bob s has always got like okay, but remember we have got more

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to do. So, I am very grateful for his investment and life investment

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in this work as well as gordon, you've been the treasurer I think since the beginning.

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a little one - okay. Thank you. Appreciate.

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00:59:03,614 --> 00:59:09,820
so, a pleasure to work with everybody, obviously there is a cost, but it is an investment

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as was said and in investment that pays off very well. It goes to the goals that we

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have that we all have to live and thrive and especially following covid - when our

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babies were not seeing people speak for the first several years of their lives, speech

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and other occupational therapy type challenges and increased greatly and you know here in

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oak park we know that all of our - things to the early childhood collaboration,

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daycare and early childhood facilities have the support all of those children in a very

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loving and inclusive way. So, thank you. All right.

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then - the actual vote of that agreement is on the consent agenda as village manager

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jackson mentioned. And we also have as a village manager report just a space

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holder for the calendar. Share on that?

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>>manager jackson: just really quick. We did publish the calendar for

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september, october, november, but I would like to represent the calendars next week at the

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meeting next weekend I did notice that there ae a couple of missions from the calendar

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that I would like to address and republish, but the ones that we have already published

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if there are any questions about any of the items there, certainly happy to answer any

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questions and I know that we have items on the agenda tonight -

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scaman: I was just noting the september one is on the previous agenda if anybody

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wants to pull that up. Just had a couple of things e that were not there that I

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wanted to be there and I would like to represent it next week if that is okay.

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>>president scaman: of course. So, anyone who is keeping track of our regular schedule, in

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september we are taking the eighth off for the labor day holiday, is that correct?

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>>manager jackson: that is correct. >>president scaman: it looks

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like we have a full schedule on all of the other tuesdays as well as the hispanic heritage

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celebration of september 26 and committee meetings. So, we will look for more

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information next week. >>manager jackson: yes. All of that will be on the

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calendar next week! Thank you. >>speaker: (away from mic).

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>>president scaman: I get the power to do a recess - oh, like a actual vacation!

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no, you blew that one! Village board committee reports - anyone have any - any

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comments on village - okay, moving forward. We have a vacancy report that

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is provided by the village clerk 's office and anyone interested in serving on a

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village board or commission can please email clerk waters at clerk@oak-park.us.

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we are now moving forward to the consent agenda and before I take a motion I will invite mr.

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chris donovan - I'm sorry, that goes back to when I was clerk - >>speaker: good evening, chris

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donovan, 733 s. Elmwood. At my checkered employment history I managed various

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programs for homebuying, first-time homebuyer programs and home loans to assist

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people. City of berwyn, county of lepage, brief time in benton

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harbor, michigan. And the one thing that all of those places and others had in

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common was that those loans for first-time homebuyers or home-improvement assistants

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were interest-free and the payments were delayed until the time the house was sold.

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great. The agenda and I saw these two addresses and then I discovered

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that these homeowners have been there 25, 30 years and have been making payments on all the

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time and while the payments are low as they have aged, these payments are difficult for them

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because of reduced incomes and circumstances. So, why is this on there?

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so, I would suggest that you consider tabling these two line items in the consent agenda and

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suspending payments currently and postponing or rewriting the loans so that they become liens

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on the property, interest-free liens, no payments until the house is sold.

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now, over the years, these people have developed equity in those houses and so depending

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on the amount of equity, these small amounts owed will not be a burden on their future

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success because of the equity that they ever earned in the 25 or 30 years and I would like

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you to do that and consider that and one other item regarding one of these loans,

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522 south taylor - there was a release of mortgage filed on that loan into thousand 24.

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make payments because right there in the document it says the debt secured by this

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mortgage has been paid in full. So, that should have stopped in 2024.

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what is going on now? Again, table this tonight and straighten those things out and

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put it on the agenda for next time to recast this as a lien for payment at the sale of the

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house. And I would also recommend that you look at the whole portfolio

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and do the same with all of those. Thank you for your time.

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>>president scaman: village manager jackson? >>manager jackson: yes,

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president scaman, appreciate the feedback mr. Dnovan. I would take the opportunity to

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remind the border where we left off with the loan forgiveness program and process and

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certainly always interested with any additional direction, but it is a good idea to

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actually just articulate where we currently stand today and how we got here with these

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items on the agenda and so jonathan burch from the program can explain that.

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>>jonathan burch: as you may recall back in october 2024, staff brought forward the loan

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01:06:11,928 --> 01:06:16,866
forgiveness policy and the board had no process to even consider the possibility of

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01:06:16,866 --> 01:06:21,837
loan forgiveness for folks who were paying loans to us for the long term.

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at that time, the board adopted a policy and and since then we portfolio of loans looking for

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01:06:28,411 --> 01:06:35,752
those that have been delinquent over a long period of time to be able to come current or if

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01:06:35,752 --> 01:06:39,956
necessary, apply for loan forgiveness which is the case for these two loans.

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01:06:39,956 --> 01:06:46,829
where after working with those homeowners in one case going all the way back to 2021, the

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01:06:46,829 --> 01:06:53,636
other since 2024 when those loans were due at the time considering other alternatives,

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they apply to us in the spring hvac for consideration.ess with one of the loans is a little

651
01:07:00,310 --> 01:07:04,380
confusing because there were two amounts that were given back in 2001 and back to back,

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01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:10,853
one was given as an fully paid off and one was was given as an interest-free loan

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01:07:10,853 --> 01:07:20,853
that was then do years later or at the time of sale into thousand 24 and the one that

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01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,536
mr. Donovan is speaking of is the one that had interest related to it and it was paid

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in full, but the other loan given to two individuals in the same household, two individuals

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01:07:31,541 --> 01:07:35,644
living in the same unit, the other one was not paid off at that time.

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and because it was all due out once rather than the interest payment over a long period of

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time, over 20 years. >>president scaman: okay. So if there remains the

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interest of my colleagues and these are both forgiving these loans tonight - potentially a

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01:08:02,738 --> 01:08:11,738
discussion for a policy change - is that of interest? >>trustee straw: I am certainly

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iterested in having further discussion about the policy change and I think that we

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should proceed with the recommended action on these loans, but I do think they are

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part of a broader policy discussion. >>president scaman: as long as

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there is at least four of us we could review the opportunity for what we are hearing from

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01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:43,270
mr. Donovan or the payback at the end that the sale of the house.

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01:08:46,150 --> 01:08:50,352
>>jonathan burch: currently all of the rehab loans, these are 20 years later.

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01:08:50,352 --> 01:08:55,491
before that point we had many more and one of these as you can see is from a buyer loan

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01:08:55,491 --> 01:09:00,290
that goes all the way back to the early 1990s and those all had interest associated with

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01:09:00,290 --> 01:09:07,103
them for a long period of time. Almost all of those loans are out of our portfolio and there

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01:09:07,103 --> 01:09:10,573
is just a couple left at this point in a part of what we are doing here is housecleaning and

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01:09:10,573 --> 01:09:18,800
mr. Donovan as recommended to go down this road. Good.sident scaman: okay, very

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01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,217
well, thank you. So, we will look forward to that additional conversation at

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a later date. And we will at this point, this is the arrangement you have

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made with the homeowners. Okay, I will - since I had a very brief discussion with mr.

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donovan, I understand another point that he is making is that allowing us to free up some of

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the cash so that we can provide that loan to another person and postponing that - when it

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finally is pale back at the sale of the home. >>jonathan burch: exactly and

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that is what the funds related to these - that they are given interned to future folks to

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help them fixing up their home and we have been doing that going back to the early 1980s.

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>>president scaman: and the funding sources, the cdbg is exactly for this purpose.

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>>jonathan burch: correct. >>president scaman: thank you. And if I do not have any other

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public comment on consent agenda I entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as

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has been presented. >>speaker: move. >>speaker: second.

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>>president scaman: motion by trustee straw and second by trustee eder.

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click waters, please take the role. >>clerk waters: trustee straw,

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yes, trustee eder, yes, trustee enyia, yes, trustee leving-jacobson, yes, trustee

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taglia, yes, trustee wesley, yes and president scaman. >>president scaman: yes.

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01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:59,610
thank you for the further explanation. Regular agenda.

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01:11:00,415 --> 01:11:06,422
first we have a resolution adopting the biodiversity and green infrastructure plan.

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village manager jackson. >>manager jackson: we have lindsay, chief of

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>>lindsay: we are very excited tonight to present the results of the biodiversity and green

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01:11:22,305 --> 01:11:26,410
infrastructure plan. We did this because of the crop land commitment that commits

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01:11:26,410 --> 01:11:33,241
the village to establishing 30% of village land as green infrastructure or enhanced

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01:11:33,716 --> 01:11:36,985
management. So, to work towards that goal we determined we needed a

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01:11:36,985 --> 01:11:40,656
baseline and we needed to have a better understanding of what exactly the goal meant to that

696
01:11:40,656 --> 01:11:46,461
purpose we hired green print partners last year in september and this board heard in

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february on part of the definitions of the framework that we would be using for the

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01:11:52,101 --> 01:12:00,424
study and tonight is the result of that. So, I am excited to introduce

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citibank herein and we also have our sustainability officer as well.

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01:12:10,768 --> 01:12:14,968
sidney? Evening, thank you for having me.

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01:12:20,143 --> 01:12:25,215
so, I am here to go over quickly the overview of the plan itself and the

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01:12:25,215 --> 01:12:31,215
recommendations that were proposed. So, this work is really a

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01:12:31,722 --> 01:12:35,793
culmination of the entire planning process and the framework that was previously

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01:12:35,793 --> 01:12:40,565
mentioned that we spoke about earlier is included as well as a baseline conditions and

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01:12:40,565 --> 01:12:44,134
opportunities. We have recommendations sections and implementation

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01:12:44,134 --> 01:12:48,272
roadmap that brings it all together. I will go over each of these at

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ahigh level. So, first we needed to set those definitions and

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infrastructure and enhance management by 2030 could mean a lot.

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01:12:56,881 --> 01:13:03,219
we needed to anchor in these clear definitions of biodiversity as diversity of

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01:13:03,219 --> 01:13:06,957
life in oak park, green infrastructure is the kind of spatial metric and surface

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01:13:06,957 --> 01:13:14,298
areas of open spaces designed to mimic ecological functions and mitigate stormwater runoff

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01:13:14,298 --> 01:13:20,571
and improve air and water quality and enhance management was really the social piece of

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01:13:20,571 --> 01:13:24,108
how folks are caring for the land and actions related to the care and maintenance of those

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01:13:24,108 --> 01:13:31,908
open spaces that are intended to support biodiversity and ecological health and function.

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so, tweaks to the 30 x 30 vision allows us to provide a little bit more clarity on what

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this looks like and how it has been accomplished and saw four key elements arose and one is

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01:13:44,261 --> 01:13:50,668
public land and that is 30% of public land is established or managed by green infrastructure

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and 100% of assets are managed with enhanced management practices.

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tree canopy - and of recognizing the existing tree canopy is a success already

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01:13:59,542 --> 01:14:06,742
passed 30% and so this goal recognizes maintenance and continued care at the 36%

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01:14:07,170 --> 01:14:12,890
coverage currently. Resident participation is measuring kind of 30% of oak

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01:14:12,890 --> 01:14:20,900
park residents who have integrated or are practicing enhanced management or have

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01:14:20,764 --> 01:14:24,835
installed green infrastructure on their private properties and then can activities around

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01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:28,505
making sure that some of the core and natural areas have linear connections to other

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01:14:28,505 --> 01:14:36,447
core areas and there is a continuous network that can be really traveled through and

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01:14:36,447 --> 01:14:41,847
connected throughout the village. So, with those more specific

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,925
goals in mind, the baseline analysis looks at each of those where we are now and what

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01:14:47,925 --> 01:14:51,929
opportunities are there to fill in the gaps. So, for public land, we

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calculated that 9% of land in oak park is currently established as or managed by

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01:14:59,603 --> 01:15:05,643
green infrastructure ad one 1% gap to the 30% goal. And a major opportunity area

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here with such a built-up community are those alleys and kind of urban core doors and

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public right of ways in public land opportunities or minimizing that goal and

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reaching that 30%. Minimizing that gap, excuse me. For enhanced management the

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vllage and partners are already doing so much on public land and at 90% of the assets

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are already managed with enhanced management practices and those are in part because

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of schools not being contributed to that goal with the inconsistent management

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01:15:45,516 --> 01:15:49,186
practices and there are plenty of great things that are happening, they are just not

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necessarily defined in the same way across schools. And that is an area to really

739
01:15:53,570 --> 01:16:01,432
quickly bridge that gap. As I mentioned earlier the tree canopy goal has already been

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01:16:01,432 --> 01:16:11,432
30% and so great work there.d in the urban forest management plan has already set a 38% goal

741
01:16:11,475 --> 01:16:16,247
for 2043. So, this really tees up continued work towards the next

742
01:16:16,247 --> 01:16:22,247
target that oak park already has. Participation - this baseline

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01:16:28,259 --> 01:16:32,162
analysis calculated 4% of property owners are applying enhanced management and a 26%

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01:16:32,162 --> 01:16:35,310
gap to the 30% goal and however this is probably a undercounting and there are

745
01:16:35,310 --> 01:16:42,231
certainly folks who are practicing tese management steps that are not being

746
01:16:44,374 --> 01:16:48,679
captured currently in the way that we are tracking this data. And the way to quickly I think

747
01:16:48,679 --> 01:16:54,510
see these numbers grow is from continued measurement and continued engagement around

748
01:16:54,510 --> 01:16:57,521
folks recognizing that they are actually already doing these things and reporting that out

749
01:16:57,521 --> 01:17:05,321
so folks can see themselves in this goal. For connectivity, this looks at

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01:17:07,398 --> 01:17:12,936
again like I mentioned before the core natural areas and these are from the park

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01:17:12,936 --> 01:17:16,874
district recreation data layers and those larger kind of cores are represented there and the

752
01:17:16,874 --> 01:17:24,740
kind of more distributed green infrastructure is not specifically connecting any of

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01:17:26,584 --> 01:17:30,487
those cores and we do see a 0% metric for the baseline there, but there are several adjacent

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01:17:30,487 --> 01:17:33,824
opportunities to start connecting those core doors and create a little bit more of

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01:17:33,824 --> 01:17:41,240
those core door networks throughout oak park. So, from the baseline and

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01:17:42,266 --> 01:17:46,437
opportunities assessment we put together a series of recommendations and this table

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is too small to see on the slide, but it is in the report and hopefully you've had a

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01:17:53,377 --> 01:17:59,683
chance to take a look, but it really does organized the strategies and recommendations

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01:17:59,683 --> 01:18:03,287
across those subgoals of public land entry canopy resident participation and connectivity.

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01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:08,479
and also orients them to these kind of buckets o policies, programs, education and

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:15,790
coordination. And I will go through kind of those buckets briefly.

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01:18:20,758 --> 01:18:24,795
so, for the policies, this is getting at the reporting using the dashboard that is currently

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01:18:24,795 --> 01:18:31,568
existing to report on the progress and success that are to come on achieving these

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goals and aligning implementation with existing initiatives including vision

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zero, resurfacing projects and the urban forest management plan.

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developing policies to advance biodiversity, including bird friendly design ordinance, dark

767
01:18:45,482 --> 01:18:50,454
sky policy amongst others. And doing a kind of green infrastructure focused review

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01:18:50,454 --> 01:18:54,858
of municipal code and looking at particular at green infrastructure guidelines for

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new development. For programs, this is elevating both the public and private

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01:19:05,135 --> 01:19:11,474
program opportunities and continuing to advance retrofit programs, because we know

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private property involvement is key to the success of this vision.

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and also looking at additional programming for the village to develop additional green

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01:19:23,487 --> 01:19:28,992
infrastructure projects on village owned properties both through initial programming as

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well as existing programs such as the green alleys program. And also discussing what a

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01:19:34,364 --> 01:19:39,764
potential green schoolyard program may look like going forward.

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01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:48,245
on the education and outreach side, this is really focusing on those key stakeholders and

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01:19:48,245 --> 01:19:57,245
populations that would be really helpful to engage with around this vision and built by

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01:20:01,191 --> 01:20:07,830
buy-in and students and youth and engaging all of those folks I measuring progress and

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01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:15,300
including them in citizen science projects and data collection for the village.

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and the coordination bundle is really looking at those cross agency partnerships both within

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01:20:24,810 --> 01:20:30,254
the village departments, sister agencies, as well as external partnerships amongst local

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01:20:30,254 --> 01:20:37,294
groups and property owners and then also regionally with additional planning agencies

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01:20:37,294 --> 01:20:43,330
and other municipalities. Just also on this point on this one, ongoing coordination with

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c4 and the introduction group and building off of the success of the longfellow pollinator

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01:20:53,643 --> 01:20:57,714
garden and we are already seeing some implementation all success from this plan and the

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01:20:57,714 --> 01:21:04,955
rush oak park property is needing landscaping into the parking lot expansion because

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of their involvement in the working group and we are really excited to see already interest

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and buy-in on these ideas and implementation towards this shared vision.

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in the implementation roadmap, construction costs for some of the scenarios that would be

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01:21:24,541 --> 01:21:31,314
required in order to achieve this 30% - these 30% goals. And so there are some you know

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01:21:31,314 --> 01:21:37,621
ballpark figures here on some of the scenarios and I think the main point to elevate

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tonight is the sufficient funding and staff capacity are needed to meet this goal.

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and so the exploration of the feasibility of a flat green introductory fee in 2027 is a

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01:21:47,931 --> 01:21:53,103
recommendation to allow for a dedicated funding stream to be able to fund the investment

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that this vision requires and the benefits that will come of it, as well.

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so, a kind of summary and next steps to - well there are a few specific next steps on the next

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slide, but this one really mapped out all of the recommendations across the next

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four years and it is not vry much time until 2030 and so suggesting some coupling and

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01:22:21,465 --> 01:22:26,670
phasing in of these recommendations to first start with building capacity and

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01:22:26,670 --> 01:22:32,142
alignment and then move into strengthening partnerships and programs, both old and new.

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01:22:32,142 --> 01:22:39,949
and really rolling into implementation across the board and continuing to roll out as

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01:22:39,949 --> 01:22:47,149
many projects as possible ahead of the 2030 goal. So, specific next steps,

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01:22:49,192 --> 01:22:53,964
recommended to continue to convene the stakeholders that were in the planning process

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01:22:53,964 --> 01:22:58,101
and to conduct that study to explore the viability of a green infrastructure c.

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01:22:58,101 --> 01:23:04,101
allocating resources for expanding existing residential retrofit programs and also

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01:23:06,243 --> 01:23:09,846
continuing to develop public awareness and education campaigns and some of those

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01:23:09,846 --> 01:23:15,118
collaborations and partnerships that are already in existence. And then review the municipal

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01:23:15,118 --> 01:23:21,524
code to identify existing barriers to green introductory and opportunities and pathways

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01:23:21,524 --> 01:23:29,324
to increase and the design and contraction of additional projects on village property.

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so, I think with that, that is good of the overall summary of the plan and thank you very

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much. >>president scaman: okay. Very good, anything else?

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01:23:48,118 --> 01:23:51,355
open for discussion. Very good, derek, thank you. >>trustee eder: happy to take

813
01:23:51,355 --> 01:23:59,763
the lead on this one. Thank you for this work and I know that you came here a

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01:23:59,763 --> 01:24:03,634
couple maybe three or four months ago to give a little bit of an update and it is great to

815
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see all of the progress that is made. Thank you staff for all the

816
01:24:05,902 --> 01:24:08,972
work on this. I'll try to be efficient and I have like a lot of questions

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01:24:08,972 --> 01:24:18,502
with different aspects of it - and first of all I would just highlight te good stuff.

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01:24:18,502 --> 01:24:21,804
we are to meet one of the four subgoals like tree canopy, yes, but down is kind of obvious,

819
01:24:21,804 --> 01:24:25,409
just look around oak park and it is like yes, we have a tree canopy and I'm glad to see that

820
01:24:25,409 --> 01:24:30,790
we are aways striving to do more and we will keep upping awesome.that is great and

821
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looking at some of these other items were we not meeting the gap yet, curious, some of these

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questions may require staff input and I think it looks like from the green infrastructure

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side of things like an obvious place to look at is the green alleyway.

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and I noted that in the report like quite a lot of opportunity and I guess it is many alleys

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01:24:51,568 --> 01:24:56,773
that could be turned into green alleyways and I understand that there is additional cost

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associated with that and I'm curious about the scope and scale of things and how many of

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those do we do every year and what is the delta and could we do more?

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I am just curious what that looks like - yes, rob, thank you.

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>>rob sproul: good evening, rob sproul, public works director. I do not have the specifics of

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that and I can speak in general - bill mechanical really the village engineer would be

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better poised to answer this question, but to turn any alley or any roadway into what we

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01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:43,987
call a green alley or roadway - there is a significant cost difference based on what the

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01:25:43,987 --> 01:25:48,959
underlying soils are, associated with that space. And so we have through a

834
01:25:48,959 --> 01:25:56,165
portion of town a spat of soil where we can access this directly during construction

835
01:25:56,165 --> 01:26:05,142
and we can allow for that, that infiltration to happen directly through a green alley.

836
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where we do not have that - we have to build that capacity as part of the infrastructure

837
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would we build in that alley in order to turn it into a green alley and there is a

838
01:26:19,522 --> 01:26:22,526
significant cost increase associated with that. And we can get you that number,

839
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but off the top of my head, I would tell you that you would money when you start looking

840
01:26:27,864 --> 01:26:32,402
outside of where we can directly access those sandy soils, it is probably not worth

841
01:26:32,402 --> 01:26:37,674
the money to turn those alleys green. You would be better spending

842
01:26:37,674 --> 01:26:46,674
off that money with other green infrastructure projects. I can get those numbers for you

843
01:26:47,417 --> 01:26:51,488
so you can see the delta, but it is pretty significant because the capacity you need

844
01:26:51,488 --> 01:26:54,525
to build for that storm water that you are taking off the alley and the potential

845
01:26:54,525 --> 01:26:58,228
properties that are around it is significant and to build that capacity is expensive.

846
01:26:58,228 --> 01:27:06,628
>>trustee eder: understood. Also my guest and this may be another bill question, but

847
01:27:10,374 --> 01:27:14,110
parts that dn't have access, those are the areas that may need a green alley more because

848
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I imagine it is not draining water as well under current conditions and is that a fair -

849
01:27:31,610 --> 01:27:34,731
>>rob sproul: our sewer system really manages much of our water issue, but to that point.

850
01:27:34,731 --> 01:27:40,670
yes, if you are looking to try to manage stormwater across the community the areas where it is

851
01:27:40,670 --> 01:27:44,341
more challenging are the areas that need it the most and again I would go back to there are

852
01:27:44,341 --> 01:27:54,341
probably things that we could do around bio swales were we can get a lot more bang for our

853
01:27:56,819 --> 01:28:03,193
buck then the infrastructure excavation needed for a green alley specifically.

854
01:28:03,193 --> 01:28:06,697
>>trustee eder: okay. That is surely helpful and the reason I'm asking this question

855
01:28:06,697 --> 01:28:15,506
is because the number is great and who does that help and I am thinking about how this will

856
01:28:15,506 --> 01:28:20,977
actually impact our residents and who needs it and where should we be prioritizing that

857
01:28:20,977 --> 01:28:24,981
funding? So, thank you. I appreciate that.

858
01:28:24,981 --> 01:28:29,385
just moving on to the resident participation aspect of things, you kind of answered the

859
01:28:29,385 --> 01:28:37,827
question I had and 4%, that is not very high and in our house we have a native garden, but I

860
01:28:37,827 --> 01:28:41,932
don't know if it is registered, because it did not drop in one of the categories that was

861
01:28:41,932 --> 01:28:50,307
listed there. And do we have an idea or plan to fully measure that and what

862
01:28:50,307 --> 01:28:56,307
could we do? Or biking - thank you! >>speaker: malcolm,

863
01:28:58,882 --> 01:29:02,385
sustainability coordinator, great question and sydney pointed out that a lot of these

864
01:29:02,385 --> 01:29:08,959
questions are what you're pointing out is that there is a lot of undercounting and is

865
01:29:08,959 --> 01:29:15,498
partially why we talk about education and developing those metrics in better ways of

866
01:29:15,498 --> 01:29:23,898
reaching out and communicating this goal through education and through engagement with some of

867
01:29:24,708 --> 01:29:30,280
our partners that are already doing a lot of this work within oak park and tapping into that

868
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:37,453
and finding opportunities to get folks mre involved and find the information, not just

869
01:29:37,453 --> 01:29:41,358
obtain, but celebrate it which I think is a major component to all of this.

870
01:29:41,358 --> 01:29:46,930
there is a reason to celebrate what folks are doing on the properties and we want to be

871
01:29:46,930 --> 01:29:49,599
able to find ways to emphasize that. A lot of that is teased out in

872
01:29:49,599 --> 01:29:53,503
the education bucket so to speak. >>trustee eder: I think

873
01:29:53,503 --> 01:30:01,110
education is always great and I have mentioned this before, but we do send folks around to go

874
01:30:01,110 --> 01:30:06,183
like site people and their garages and you know having like chipped paint, can they

875
01:30:06,183 --> 01:30:12,355
also while there walking around just count the native guardians and do something passive that

876
01:30:12,355 --> 01:30:19,228
does not require proactive like you were never going to reach everyone and it would be great

877
01:30:19,228 --> 01:30:26,972
if we could measure it without having everyone know about this program and trying to reach

878
01:30:26,972 --> 01:30:34,112
these goals. And so I could just keep mentioning this every time I

879
01:30:34,112 --> 01:30:40,712
can. Okay, onto the connectivity stuff, this is the most tough

880
01:30:40,719 --> 01:30:44,390
thing to think of because it is zero and I guess I just wonder - is this an achievable goal?

881
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:50,862
and my first question is pockets of built-up community and there is only so much that

882
01:30:50,862 --> 01:30:58,300
you can change over that period of time - is this even a achievable goal?

883
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:07,790
I guess this is a question that I have and if not and are there other communities that have

884
01:31:07,790 --> 01:31:13,686
reached that and can we point to them? And if tis is achievable, can

885
01:31:13,686 --> 01:31:18,757
we maybe reassess a look at a goal that is achievable? And also I was talking to

886
01:31:18,757 --> 01:31:27,157
someone in the oak prk action climate network and what we mean by connectivity?

887
01:31:27,466 --> 01:31:33,205
connectivity for what kinds of life? Are we talking about like

888
01:31:33,205 --> 01:31:36,441
connecting different monarch like what are we talking about when we say connectivity?

889
01:31:36,441 --> 01:31:43,649
it is not just one thing - do we have more specifics that we can dive into?

890
01:31:43,649 --> 01:31:47,719
>>speaker: that is a great question and one that we talk a lot about and especially in oak

891
01:31:47,719 --> 01:31:54,126
park for example and we are not talking about large herding animals, it is a lot of

892
01:31:54,126 --> 01:32:02,134
pollinators and things of that nature and when we were looking into exactly how to achieve

893
01:32:02,134 --> 01:32:08,140
cnnectivity across the central core areas, we really focused in on how can we develop our

894
01:32:08,140 --> 01:32:12,678
streets and parkways in particular with seem to be the greatest opportunity area in

895
01:32:12,678 --> 01:32:18,717
this space and the report teases this out a lot more which is how can we continue to

896
01:32:18,717 --> 01:32:24,723
encourage residents to naturalized their parkways and what are other opportunities

897
01:32:24,723 --> 01:32:29,328
that we have is a village to pull some levers and help those residents come forth with that?

898
01:32:29,328 --> 01:32:33,666
and this also helps us to be able to track which parkways are naturalized and this gets

899
01:32:33,666 --> 01:32:37,502
back to your original question about undercounting some of the data.

900
01:32:37,502 --> 01:32:45,510
of folks at residence who are implementing these measures on the parkways and naturalizing

901
01:32:45,510 --> 01:32:48,947
them and we don't need every parkway on the street to be naturalized to achieve what we

902
01:32:48,947 --> 01:32:57,347
would call like ecologically beneficial connectivity, but we do need at least 30% so they

903
01:32:57,589 --> 01:33:03,595
are providing at least you know within 100 feet of natural areas and space for those

904
01:33:03,595 --> 01:33:07,967
pollinators to be able to travel or those birds to be able to travel and find

905
01:33:07,967 --> 01:33:11,403
additional food sources from one core natural area to the other.

906
01:33:11,403 --> 01:33:17,142
and I do think that the plan speaks to this a little bit more and it is again not

907
01:33:17,142 --> 01:33:24,416
looking at every street like we need to completely naturalize it, but can we get it to a

908
01:33:24,416 --> 01:33:27,486
point where it becomes ecologically beneficial to pollinate on some of the

909
01:33:27,486 --> 01:33:33,825
smaller fauna that we have in this community. >>trustee eder: I think a -

910
01:33:33,825 --> 01:33:40,320
moving on to the goals section, I think definitely jumped out at me the alignment with

911
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:46,471
existing plans and what is this - are we collaborating? We are to have lots of

912
01:33:46,471 --> 01:33:49,841
relationships with all of our partners, but for example like the school district and park

913
01:33:49,841 --> 01:33:54,779
district, do they have similar goals? Are we trying to aign their

914
01:33:54,779 --> 01:33:58,184
goals and are they a part of that working group? How are they factored in to

915
01:33:58,184 --> 01:34:04,184
what those goals could look like? >>malcolm: that is absolutely

916
01:34:04,423 --> 01:34:09,195
correct, we are involved with through the cross sustainability exchange group

917
01:34:09,195 --> 01:34:13,799
and we are working with district 97 and district 200 and this is managed by seven

918
01:34:13,799 --> 01:34:17,335
generations ahead and we are working on not just green infrastructure as a part of

919
01:34:17,335 --> 01:34:24,760
this initiative, this is the sustainability you know using this opportunity to coordinate

920
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,412
all of this in a similar direction - would you have a green in professional working

921
01:34:27,412 --> 01:34:34,530
and as a part of that green print we did a green schools assessment looking at every

922
01:34:34,530 --> 01:34:41,193
property in district 97 and district 200 and taking a look at their existing

923
01:34:41,193 --> 01:34:43,762
infrastructure assets and then identifying opportunities to expand.

924
01:34:43,762 --> 01:34:50,962
and we use that work to inform this. And through that green

925
01:34:51,537 --> 01:34:55,140
infrastructure working group we are continuing conversations on where we can coordinate as a

926
01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:58,744
village with district 97 since there is so much opportunity across those properties.

927
01:34:58,744 --> 01:35:04,449
>>trustee eder: okay, great. You mentioned the schools, township, library, are we

928
01:35:04,449 --> 01:35:07,586
talking to them? >>malcolm: yes, as a part of the stakeholder interviews and

929
01:35:07,586 --> 01:35:13,825
some of the focus groups that sidney mentioned, we have been engaged with our district and

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01:35:13,825 --> 01:35:20,310
obsolete they are responsible for the largest percentage of our green infra structure and

931
01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:23,135
they are doing great work and they serve as a leader in the space.

932
01:35:23,135 --> 01:35:27,139
all of their properties are meeting those enhanced management standards that we

933
01:35:27,139 --> 01:35:36,882
mention and so really our focus some of the connectivity issues and also some of the education

934
01:35:36,882 --> 01:35:40,785
engagement and tapping it in partnering with tem to utilize the various strengths to help

935
01:35:40,785 --> 01:35:47,590
elevate some of this work that we want to be happening village wide.

936
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>>trustee eder: great, awesome. What is the green infrastructure fee?

937
01:35:53,866 --> 01:35:57,169
do we know? Is tis just for a later time? I'm just very curious what that

938
01:35:57,169 --> 01:36:03,642
is and also like maybe most importantly like who is paying that?

939
01:36:03,642 --> 01:36:06,912
>>malcolm: we are going to investigate this in 2027 to look at the viability of that

940
01:36:06,912 --> 01:36:11,716
and what is a equitable and impactful fee and something that we want to take a little

941
01:36:11,716 --> 01:36:17,550
bit more time to study and investigate. >>trustee eder: okay, great.

942
01:36:17,550 --> 01:36:21,855
tbd. Okay. I think my last thoughts here

943
01:36:23,662 --> 01:36:31,300
just around obviously the slide with the dollar amounts, some of those dollar amounts are

944
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:34,390
pretty large, right? In particular. And so for our benefit I think

945
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:37,682
it would be helpful as we start to consider some of these things and I would really love

946
01:36:37,682 --> 01:36:43,487
to get into some of the details and just learned about - the numbers are great and I love

947
01:36:43,487 --> 01:36:52,487
numbers and I love kpis and whatever like it makes the complex city achievable and

948
01:36:54,365 --> 01:36:57,335
understandable. But, ultimately we need to prioritize how this is actually

949
01:36:57,335 --> 01:37:01,773
we are obviously trying to do what we can and do our part you know for mitigating all of the

950
01:37:01,773 --> 01:37:05,243
climate change that is happening in our community, but it also needs to impact the

951
01:37:05,243 --> 01:37:09,513
residence and I want to prioritize helping those who need the most help, right?

952
01:37:09,513 --> 01:37:13,384
so, as we start to look at those items I want to make sure that that is - those factors

953
01:37:13,384 --> 01:37:21,125
are included in how we are actually deciding where those dollars go, just because it is

954
01:37:21,125 --> 01:37:25,797
the easiest thing does not always mean that it will achieve those goals for the

955
01:37:25,797 --> 01:37:28,867
folks who needed the most. And so just want to make sure that that is like a factor as

956
01:37:28,867 --> 01:37:33,537
we are putting this plan into action. Sorry for taking so long -

957
01:37:33,537 --> 01:37:39,711
>>president scaman: thank you. Brian? >>trustee straw: I want to say

958
01:37:39,711 --> 01:37:47,418
thank you guys for the work that you put in on this. It has maybe become somewhat of

959
01:37:47,418 --> 01:37:57,161
a running joke, but I would ask everyone who was watching to actually take a look and read

960
01:37:57,161 --> 01:38:07,161
this 80 page report and one of the things that often times there will be hot button issues

961
01:38:07,204 --> 01:38:13,511
that come up in front of the board where people pay attention to the work being

962
01:38:13,511 --> 01:38:21,986
done, but we so frequently receive very detailed and very thoughtful reports where a ton

963
01:38:21,986 --> 01:38:27,325
of work has gone into it and community does not necessarily dig into it.

964
01:38:27,325 --> 01:38:36,925
so, we have a detailed 80 page report and there is meaningful work and it is impactful.

965
01:38:41,506 --> 01:38:51,106
so, thank you. I do want to talk a little bit about the scary budget numbers

966
01:38:52,283 --> 01:38:59,483
that trustee eder referenced earlier. And first for staff, this is a

967
01:39:01,158 --> 01:39:10,758
motion to approve this report and approving this report is not us directing staff to spend

968
01:39:11,636 --> 01:39:20,778
$40 billion on connectivity - that is one of the listed numbers - just want to confirm

969
01:39:20,778 --> 01:39:26,618
that that is the case. Staff would understand that to be the direction?

970
01:39:26,618 --> 01:39:31,389
>>manager jackson: that is correct. >>trustee straw: 40 billion is

971
01:39:31,389 --> 01:39:40,989
one of the connectivity numbers it is the outside estimate, it is 200 million up to 40 billion

972
01:39:44,802 --> 01:39:48,339
- I wanted to confirm that, because it is important for the community to understand we are

973
01:39:48,339 --> 01:39:57,939
not saying that we are going to be spending that number or 588 million on creating vegetated

974
01:39:59,484 --> 01:40:06,157
bump outs immediately. These are just construction costs of if we did all of these

975
01:40:06,157 --> 01:40:15,757
things imediately, here is what this would cost. So - what would you see as the

976
01:40:19,704 --> 01:40:25,944
most impactful steps that we could be taking? What are the biggest bang for

977
01:40:25,944 --> 01:40:32,544
our buck steps out of these recommendations? >>malcolm: maybe sydney also

978
01:40:33,117 --> 01:40:40,258
has some additional insight on this and one from our perspective I think I mentioned

979
01:40:40,258 --> 01:40:47,458
this earlier the parkways represent like a massive portion - a massive

980
01:40:50,468 --> 01:40:52,937
opportunity. And this was analyzed through some of the scenario and

981
01:40:52,937 --> 01:40:55,973
opportunity analysis which was also included in the plan in the appendices.

982
01:40:55,973 --> 01:41:01,612
so, if you're interested in addition to the 80 page plan, there is -

983
01:41:01,612 --> 01:41:04,882
>>trustee straw: 120 pages of appendices which I also commend you to review!

984
01:41:04,882 --> 01:41:12,490
>>malcolm: but, they do show that has some of the greatest opportunity area at a

985
01:41:12,490 --> 01:41:20,890
relatively lower cost and has similar impacts due to their benefits that native plants

986
01:41:22,233 --> 01:41:27,872
have on stormwater, air quality and all of these issues. We do have our parkway planting

987
01:41:27,872 --> 01:41:35,780
ordinance that we recently several years ago past to allow adjacent property owners to

988
01:41:35,780 --> 01:41:40,585
naturalize those parkways within certain guidelines and we would really want to explore

989
01:41:40,585 --> 01:41:43,854
opportunities to educate residents on that and we still have a lot of work to do to let

990
01:41:43,854 --> 01:41:50,594
folks know that this is an opportunity and this is an area o growth, literally.

991
01:41:50,594 --> 01:41:56,801
but, then also look at opportunities and program and assistance to help those who

992
01:41:56,801 --> 01:42:01,720
maybe do not know where to start to be able to naturalize those spaces.

993
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:10,720
so, that is one area where I think there is a lot of cost-efficient opportunity.

994
01:42:14,151 --> 01:42:18,890
>>trustee straw: I think that is an area where I would love to see us continue to push

995
01:42:18,890 --> 01:42:24,929
forward. It is as noted in the chart - hundreds of thousands of

996
01:42:24,929 --> 01:42:32,436
dollars, minimal cost in the village. And I think it does present an

997
01:42:32,436 --> 01:42:38,509
we have had pioneers in this community who were naturalizing the parkways before we passed

998
01:42:38,509 --> 01:42:44,782
the ordinance allowing that to happen and I'm grateful that we fixed that ordinance and

999
01:42:44,782 --> 01:42:51,731
definitely I think that providing the additional education makes it simple like

1000
01:42:51,731 --> 01:43:01,542
here's what it looks like to do that and sort of we can provide you with an easy pathway to get

1001
01:43:01,542 --> 01:43:08,142
there. And it makes a difference and creates those opportunities for

1002
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:21,161
connectivity. Rob, can you speak to the bump outs and the cost to a

1003
01:43:21,161 --> 01:43:31,161
vegetated bump out and what about as we do them now are? >>rob sproul: maybe not - no

1004
01:43:41,781 --> 01:43:50,181
(chuckle) all of the permanent installed bump outs that we do now are vegetated.

1005
01:43:50,991 --> 01:43:58,766
>>trustee straw: I believe the vegetated bump outs, we are talking about bio swale vs. -

1006
01:43:58,766 --> 01:44:01,134
grassy bump outs. Sproul: I can see. No.

1007
01:44:01,134 --> 01:44:11,134
I mean I don't think - I am not sure that will costs calculated for like improved bio swale

1008
01:44:13,681 --> 01:44:17,284
bump outs. That is something I could probably get back to you and we

1009
01:44:17,284 --> 01:44:24,358
are doing some improved planter beds that are bio soils and we probably do have some recent

1010
01:44:24,358 --> 01:44:31,765
numbers on what those could look like, but I would probably need to talk to the team about

1011
01:44:31,765 --> 01:44:38,172
the scale and cost per square footage and things like that. >>malcolm: we do have some

1012
01:44:38,172 --> 01:44:46,780
numbers for van buren and scoville and I don't know the difference, but we have

1013
01:44:46,780 --> 01:44:52,780
incorporated that into the implementation. >>trustee straw: it talks about

1014
01:44:53,921 --> 01:45:01,261
260,000 per intersection for a bio swale bump out and I don't know what a traditional grass -

1015
01:45:01,261 --> 01:45:07,635
>>rob sproul: I don't know off the top of my head. That is a big number in the

1016
01:45:07,635 --> 01:45:14,235
presentation, 588 million if we did the bio swale vegetated bump outs.

1017
01:45:15,676 --> 01:45:24,952
but, it may be one of those things where where we are already doing bump outs - if

1018
01:45:24,952 --> 01:45:34,552
the cost difference is somewhat marginal, it may present an opportunity for us as a village

1019
01:45:36,964 --> 01:45:46,964
and that is one other place - I think part of the reason these numbers are so big is that it

1020
01:45:48,842 --> 01:45:52,513
imagines us doing it right now and I'm definitely interested as we continue studying how to

1021
01:45:52,513 --> 01:45:58,985
implement this, where we can make those mrginal changes where you know every year we

1022
01:45:58,985 --> 01:46:07,428
are doing repaving projects and we are looking at where permanent bump out make sense

1023
01:46:07,428 --> 01:46:17,428
and how can we harness those as little bit further at a reduced marginal cost, because we are

1024
01:46:18,471 --> 01:46:24,945
already spending 70% of the cost, because we are doing the bump outs anyway.

1025
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sproul: the plan account for basically every intersection in the village in that huge

1026
01:46:28,148 --> 01:46:33,353
number. To, there is no ability for the village to do them all at once.

1027
01:46:33,353 --> 01:46:40,160
and anything that we did in terms of that would be a phased-in plan that we would do

1028
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,730
as a part of our resurfacing plan because that is the time that we really look at

1029
01:46:43,730 --> 01:46:47,367
adjusting curb line and so we are already as you said accounting for any

1030
01:46:47,367 --> 01:46:53,440
recommendations in division zero plan where bump outs would be appropriate.

1031
01:46:53,440 --> 01:47:01,514
and we could look at what the cost delta is between an enhanced bio swale treatment at

1032
01:47:01,514 --> 01:47:08,655
those intersections vs. A traditional sod and get the information for you and present

1033
01:47:08,655 --> 01:47:12,392
as a part of a research project so you can see the cost and make a determination on whether

1034
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or not you want to include it. >>trustee straw: that would be valuable especially as we are

1035
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going into budget season and talking about cip and how we can integrate some of these

1036
01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:35,340
ideas and what that marginal cost actually looks like. >>rob sproul: the only other

1037
01:47:36,416 --> 01:47:39,786
item I would want to bring up is that in addition to the installation cost, there is a

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01:47:39,786 --> 01:47:47,586
potential maintenance cost that goes along with that. With the current treatment of

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01:47:48,762 --> 01:47:52,165
sod, that expectation on maintenance is passed back to the adjacent property owner.

1040
01:47:52,165 --> 01:47:57,904
I do not know if we could have that same expectation on property owners if we are

1041
01:47:57,904 --> 01:48:01,474
putting them in a situation where they're being asked to maintain and enhance landscape

1042
01:48:01,474 --> 01:48:05,645
treatment so then we would have to look out what that continuing cost would be for

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01:48:05,645 --> 01:48:13,445
the village as we make those changes, as well. >>trustee straw: thank you.

1044
01:48:15,255 --> 01:48:17,925
concluding - this is an awesome plan and there is a lot of detail.

1045
01:48:17,925 --> 01:48:25,999
there are big scary numbers and so we have to do the hard work of figuring out where we can

1046
01:48:25,999 --> 01:48:34,141
get the most bang for our buck and how we can integrate into existing planning processes and

1047
01:48:34,141 --> 01:48:41,941
sort o marginal cost that create outsize impacts. >>president scaman: kind of the

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01:48:44,818 --> 01:48:51,825
point of the plan. >>manager jackson: thank you, president scaman if I could

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01:48:51,825 --> 01:48:58,377
briefly - these are all really good point and I think the good news is that we are speaking

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01:48:58,377 --> 01:49:04,377
directly to integration, collaboration and prioritization and all of this

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01:49:05,318 --> 01:49:15,318
is conceptualized by the climate ready open -- oak park plan and we are doing a good

1052
01:49:19,932 --> 01:49:26,439
job and we are building up a lot of momentum and accelerating these programs and

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01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:30,142
master plans and now we are talking green infrastructure and a number of things we put

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01:49:30,142 --> 01:49:34,881
into place and at some point there may be a need to look at climate ready oak park as we

1055
01:49:34,881 --> 01:49:39,618
have learned more over the last few years in terms of what we can realistically take on.

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01:49:39,618 --> 01:49:49,218
but, the good news is that we have been working together and planning together and cross

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01:49:49,662 --> 01:49:53,833
jurisdictional boundaries and it is translating it into doing it together.

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01:49:53,833 --> 01:49:58,905
and we are seeing some real outcomes. But, climate rady oak park is

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01:49:58,905 --> 01:50:05,912
talked about in 2022, hat we revisiting some of the expectations around, but it

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01:50:05,912 --> 01:50:12,251
does not hurt us to stretch as we go through the budget cycles and so forth.

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>>president scaman: excellent comments from trustee eder and chibikue -- and straw and I

1062
01:50:20,727 --> 01:50:27,927
welcome additional, but I would like to move towards adopting. Thank you.

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01:50:29,269 --> 01:50:33,173
>>trustee wesley: take you, president scaman and thank you guys for this great plan and

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01:50:33,173 --> 01:50:40,146
I've got a few comments on it. All positive and questions I think maybe.

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01:50:40,146 --> 01:50:45,552
first I want to echo trustee straw 's anyway that we can combine things, that is

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01:50:45,552 --> 01:50:51,291
awesome. I saw it was mentioned on slide 15 and not given in my opinion

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01:50:51,291 --> 01:50:57,330
as much maybe elevation as I would want to see as the public parking lot ad the items

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01:50:57,330 --> 01:51:04,537
second from the bottom - I think right now like all of the public parking lots are

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01:51:04,537 --> 01:51:12,937
concrete or asphalt? Could they be something else? Yes, yes - like lot 10, yes.

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01:51:15,648 --> 01:51:20,987
>>malcolm: absolutely. It is something that we have included in the plan and we

1071
01:51:20,987 --> 01:51:27,860
took a look at this several years ago through another process just looking at parking

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01:51:27,860 --> 01:51:34,330
lots as an opportunity and we incorporated that into this plan and it is certainly

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01:51:34,330 --> 01:51:42,433
something that is somewhat similar to the green alleyway to manage stormwater where it

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01:51:44,677 --> 01:51:50,416
falls and a lot of the grant funding opportunities - you know we obtain a portion of the

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01:51:50,416 --> 01:51:58,424
funding for the green alleyways through mwrd and this is an avenue that we can look into as

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01:51:58,424 --> 01:52:04,424
well as those opportunities arising. >>trustee wesley: I would love

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01:52:10,503 --> 01:52:14,373
to see none of our parking lots just be straight asphalt. There is a mention in here and

1078
01:52:14,373 --> 01:52:19,145
you didn't think that you would slip this one pass me - parking converted to permanent - did

1079
01:52:19,145 --> 01:52:24,717
you really think that you would slide that would buy? What about we just get rid of

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01:52:24,717 --> 01:52:32,517
it altogether? Mentioned you know there was a actual article on me mentioning

1081
01:52:33,292 --> 01:52:39,398
shrinking the streets. Like I have never - I have said a lot of things that does board

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01:52:39,398 --> 01:52:43,135
table and I did not think that one was the most controversial that I've ever seen.

1083
01:52:43,135 --> 01:52:45,137
a colorful page article. I was crazy. Anyway -

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01:52:45,137 --> 01:52:51,737
>>president scaman: you are not the first. >>trustee wesley: okay, anyway

1085
01:52:53,278 --> 01:52:57,316
- like what we are talking about, 30% of our streets being converted to permeable lanes,

1086
01:52:57,316 --> 01:53:01,820
maybe we should think about those streets being more narrow instead of a permeable lane,

1087
01:53:01,820 --> 01:53:06,620
baby return to green space in general. Mobility -

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01:53:14,433 --> 01:53:18,370
>>malcolm: we can take a look at and of course it comes back to the conversation about cost

1089
01:53:18,370 --> 01:53:22,308
and the reason we look at the permeable parking lanes inputting for that number of

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01:53:22,308 --> 01:53:28,447
one lane, because that would allow us to effectively manage the stormwater of the entire

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01:53:28,447 --> 01:53:34,287
street effectively if we are able to correct it. And just trying to think costs

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01:53:34,287 --> 01:53:40,560
to be cost-efficient with these opportunities and these are opportunities for bio swales as

1093
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:50,160
we were mentioning previously and we can take a look at those opportunities as they come

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01:53:51,300 --> 01:53:54,730
across. Absolutely. You just shrink the history and

1095
01:53:54,730 --> 01:53:57,750
you save the money and get the green space and it is a win-win and I like win-win.

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01:53:57,750 --> 01:54:07,750
we can also use these for the slow streets and bringing those back would not necessarily be a

1097
01:54:10,423 --> 01:54:15,895
bad thing. We don't have any in the village, but I have seen green

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01:54:15,895 --> 01:54:20,500
little roundabouts and we have got a lot of four way stops that may be beneficial to be

1099
01:54:20,500 --> 01:54:30,100
converted to a roundabout. And again just throwing it out there and if you have tarred

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01:54:32,311 --> 01:54:40,353
about it before I would love to hear about here - >>rob sproul: we have looked at

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01:54:40,353 --> 01:54:49,953
the ability to install and the ability of tight constraints and based on just the tightness

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01:54:53,131 --> 01:54:57,336
of our streets, they would need to be rather small so they become very challenging to

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01:54:57,336 --> 01:55:02,541
maintain from a landscaping perspective. And then once you get rd of

1104
01:55:02,541 --> 01:55:10,966
the landscaping, they often just become a driven over more of like a speedbump, right?

1105
01:55:10,966 --> 01:55:18,907
the value in going to the traffic circles or the roundabouts over the bump outs

1106
01:55:18,907 --> 01:55:22,577
at the curb, because it is really one or the other based on the restrictions that we

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01:55:22,577 --> 01:55:26,548
have and we see a lot more value with shrinking and bringing those curves out and

1108
01:55:26,548 --> 01:55:31,119
drinking the travel lanes then going to a traffic circle in the middle.

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01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:36,959
>>trustee wesley: awesome, love it, I appreciate that. Any thoughts on prioritizing

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01:55:36,959 --> 01:55:46,559
this infrastructure in northeast oak park where we see a lot of flooding and how that

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01:55:47,202 --> 01:55:50,305
could potentially mitigate some of that? >>malcolm: I'm glad you brought

1112
01:55:50,305 --> 01:55:55,878
that up and I think trustee eder, you were mentioning prioritizing where we expand

1113
01:55:55,878 --> 01:56:01,482
green infrastructure. This is a priority area for climate ready which we want to

1114
01:56:01,482 --> 01:56:05,420
continue that program providing large native trees to properties in north, east and

1115
01:56:05,420 --> 01:56:13,220
south oak park and according to vulnerabilities and according to the flood susceptibility

1116
01:56:14,563 --> 01:56:18,833
risk and the tree canopy numbers. This is also something that we

1117
01:56:18,833 --> 01:56:24,606
have incorporated and continue to incorporate into the updated version of the rain skate,

1118
01:56:24,606 --> 01:56:28,844
climate ready rains gate program and so identifying those areas as high priority

1119
01:56:28,844 --> 01:56:35,183
areas where we can see outsized impact for the support of installing rain gardens and

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01:56:35,183 --> 01:56:39,383
other infrastructure for residents. >>trustee wesley: awesome.

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01:56:42,900 --> 01:56:48,797
I appreciate that. I love the trees, always have to mention that.

1122
01:56:48,797 --> 01:56:54,937
we have a lot of them. They are amazing. Multipurpose infrastructure,

1123
01:56:54,937 --> 01:57:02,737
right? They call the earth and they clean the air and slow down

1124
01:57:02,744 --> 01:57:06,748
traffic and there is a lot of bang for your buck for a tree. And I think it just bears

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01:57:06,748 --> 01:57:16,348
I know, right?ry time. We still could do more, derek! >>president scaman: I love the

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01:57:18,293 --> 01:57:21,997
energy on this agenda item, but I - >>trustee wesley: I'm almost

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01:57:21,997 --> 01:57:27,997
done. Any thought to density bonuses for green space during

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,409
development? We are talking about a lot of zoning reform and one of the

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01:57:34,409 --> 01:57:42,517
things in there was a bonus for affordable housing and maybe a bonus for green infrastructure

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01:57:42,517 --> 01:57:51,517
wouldn't be a bad idea as well. Any thoughts on getting folks to sponsor this?

1131
01:57:56,231 --> 01:58:00,201
could we get mcdonald's to sponsor a bump out or I don't know, just throwing it out and

1132
01:58:00,201 --> 01:58:05,406
I've seen this in other places where infrastructure gets sponsored by corporations who

1133
01:58:05,406 --> 01:58:10,110
then pay for the bid to exist and I'm perfectly happy taking the check for smebody to build

1134
01:58:10,110 --> 01:58:18,411
a bump out. As long as I is tasteful. >>trustee straw: we can have

1135
01:58:24,192 --> 01:58:30,192
the culver's bump out - >>trustee wesley: yes, burger wars!

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01:58:33,368 --> 01:58:39,273
that is all I have, thanks a lot. >>president scaman: are the

1137
01:58:39,273 --> 01:58:47,673
rest of us good? Thumbs up, chibikue. Okay, may I have a motion to

1138
01:58:53,721 --> 01:58:56,858
accept this adopting the bow diversity and green introductory plan?

1139
01:58:56,858 --> 01:59:00,495
>>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second. >>president scaman: motion by

1140
01:59:00,495 --> 01:59:03,532
trustee eder and second by trustee leving-jacobson, clerk waters, please take the role.

1141
01:59:03,532 --> 01:59:08,603
>>clerk waters: trustee eder, yes, trustee leving-jacobson, yes, trustee enyia, yes,

1142
01:59:08,603 --> 01:59:15,803
trustee straw, yes, trustee taglia, yes, trustee wesley, yes and president scaman.

1143
01:59:15,977 --> 01:59:20,748
>>president scaman: yes. Entertain a motion to advance the police department cmponent

1144
01:59:20,748 --> 01:59:23,818
of the oak park municipal campus project to design development and direct

1145
01:59:23,818 --> 01:59:26,654
staff to negotiate a professional services agreement with

1146
01:59:26,654 --> 01:59:29,290
johnson, lasky & kindelin architects, incorporated for preparation

1147
01:59:29,290 --> 01:59:33,762
and delivery of the required construction documents. Motion, please.

1148
01:59:33,762 --> 01:59:38,562
>>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second. >>president scaman: motion by

1149
01:59:41,703 --> 01:59:49,377
trustee wesley and second by trustee enyia. - motion by trustee enyia and

1150
01:59:49,377 --> 01:59:54,177
second by trustee straw. >>manager jackson: yes, I'm

1151
01:59:54,782 --> 02:00:03,182
turning this oer to rob sproul, public works director. Just want to acknowledge that

1152
02:00:07,262 --> 02:00:14,669
you know tis step in the stage of the project, completion of schematic design is a

1153
02:00:14,669 --> 02:00:18,390
substantial milestone in the journey of this product over the last several years and a

1154
02:00:18,390 --> 02:00:23,411
cumulatively all of the work that has gone into this effort to this point even prior to the

1155
02:00:23,411 --> 02:00:29,484
last few years. So, it is I think a significant moment and I think that we are

1156
02:00:29,484 --> 02:00:36,291
excited to present the outcome of the schematic design and also seeking direction to move

1157
02:00:36,291 --> 02:00:44,910
the police station to full design development. And I know that there are

1158
02:00:45,901 --> 02:00:48,637
several other steps that are left that remain in this process, but I just thought

1159
02:00:48,637 --> 02:00:52,641
that it was important as we teed this up that we acknowledge that there has been

1160
02:00:52,641 --> 02:00:59,281
a significant amount of work that has gone into this process to get to this point including

1161
02:00:59,281 --> 02:01:04,452
staff, the board, and the community and our other partners here that will be

1162
02:01:04,452 --> 02:01:10,392
presenting tonight. So, just want to take a moment to just contextualize that and

1163
02:01:10,392 --> 02:01:17,933
I will turn it over to rob and he will explain what we are asking for and introduced the

1164
02:01:17,933 --> 02:01:20,755
guests. >>rob sproul: good evening, rob sproul, public works director,

1165
02:01:20,755 --> 02:01:25,560
thank you village manager jackson. The jl k team along with

1166
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:30,931
dewberry and other consultants have been working since the board gave authorization in

1167
02:01:30,931 --> 02:01:37,238
february to complete schematic design for the multi site oak park municipal campus.

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02:01:37,238 --> 02:01:42,243
are here tonight to present those documents. We are going to go through a

1169
02:01:42,243 --> 02:01:47,315
high level presentation that shows you just a little bit of the work that has gone into

1170
02:01:47,315 --> 02:01:52,320
that today. You have received quite a bit more information in the aic

1171
02:01:52,320 --> 02:02:00,295
packet associated with this. And I will even say that there is work for the security

1172
02:02:00,295 --> 02:02:03,931
reasons or for security reasons around building police stations, there is a level of

1173
02:02:03,931 --> 02:02:11,206
information that we are not presenting publicly as it relates to the layout of that

1174
02:02:11,206 --> 02:02:14,141
facility. So, there is actually even more work that has gone into it

1175
02:02:14,141 --> 02:02:19,800
beyond what we are showing tonight just simply not showing because of the security

1176
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:21,216
reasons. If the board really had a desire to see them and that

1177
02:02:21,216 --> 02:02:24,485
level of detail in those plans, we can set up a time for you guys to see those plans

1178
02:02:24,485 --> 02:02:31,192
privately and so you can have an understanding and we are at what we typically call

1179
02:02:31,192 --> 02:02:37,932
schematic design which is about 30% plan delivery. So, we will be delivering those

1180
02:02:37,932 --> 02:02:40,568
documents and having a conversation about where we are.

1181
02:02:40,568 --> 02:02:49,310
and then based on the prior village board feedback, we do have an understanding that the

1182
02:02:49,310 --> 02:02:53,982
priority for this larger scale project is to accelerate the police station side of the

1183
02:02:53,982 --> 02:02:57,618
project. What we are asking for tonight is for authorization to begin

1184
02:02:57,618 --> 02:03:03,180
negotiating the professional services with this architectural and engineering

1185
02:03:03,391 --> 02:03:10,664
team to deliver those documents through completion so that we can kind of continue to advance

1186
02:03:10,664 --> 02:03:17,864
this project. In addition, earlier this last month, we got authorization I

1187
02:03:21,420 --> 02:03:24,745
tink it was last month or maybe a couple months ago, got authorization from this board

1188
02:03:24,745 --> 02:03:28,282
to start the selection process for construction manager associated with this project

1189
02:03:28,282 --> 02:03:32,386
and that process is ongoing peer we have an expectation that we will be delivering a

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02:03:32,386 --> 02:03:36,290
recommended contract to the board in early october on a construction manager for this

1191
02:03:36,290 --> 02:03:39,460
project if we get the authorization to kind of continue to take this project

1192
02:03:39,460 --> 02:03:44,465
forward tonight. So, we have multiple avenues that we are continuing

1193
02:03:44,465 --> 02:03:48,669
associated with this project and we are very confident that if we continue to advance this

1194
02:03:48,669 --> 02:03:57,945
project forward on the schedule a position to begin hould be in construction at some point in

1195
02:03:57,945 --> 02:04:04,170
2027 on this project. With that I will turn it over to may k who is the project

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02:04:04,170 --> 02:04:11,726
lead and we all know meg, she has had a number of conversations with us and she

1197
02:04:11,726 --> 02:04:14,995
will show you all the pretty photos and everything that we have been working on and finish

1198
02:04:14,995 --> 02:04:19,600
up on cost estimates and where w are at and then we will open it up for any questions that

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you may have throughout the process. >>meg: thank you, rob.

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02:04:25,940 --> 02:04:29,343
and thank you for the opportunity to present and talk about this wonderful project

1201
02:04:29,343 --> 02:04:31,778
with you. We are really excited to be working with you and we have

1202
02:04:31,778 --> 02:04:35,249
been working hand-in-hand here and here we are. Thank you.

1203
02:04:35,249 --> 02:04:42,823
so, just to turn our eyes to the screens here, we will go over as rob said, a pretty high

1204
02:04:42,823 --> 02:04:46,427
level discussion tonight and then I know that you have questions and comments that we

1205
02:04:46,427 --> 02:04:51,980
will get to as well. So, moving in - we always return our questions, our work

1206
02:04:51,980 --> 02:04:59,240
and just want to take a moment and remind ourselves of the metrics of success for this

1207
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,509
project that we established at the very beginning of our working together.

1208
02:05:02,509 --> 02:05:06,247
of these projects being a place of pride and being mindful of cost and mindful stewards of

1209
02:05:06,247 --> 02:05:14,722
the public money and the police department and the respect it deserves and a sense of

1210
02:05:14,722 --> 02:05:19,660
inclusion, security and safety being paramount and solving and recognizing parking issues and

1211
02:05:19,660 --> 02:05:23,300
sustainability and of course being involved with the community and police department

1212
02:05:23,300 --> 02:05:28,269
and the village hall for that matter, they are both community buildings and these are

1213
02:05:28,269 --> 02:05:31,272
community services. Turning for a moment to the village hall and a site plan

1214
02:05:31,272 --> 02:05:35,760
and the work we have been doing as we advance this through schematic design - we took to

1215
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heart this idea that as you may recall, these two projects were together on the village hall

1216
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:46,153
site for quite some time and that is where the idea of the municipal campus came from and

1217
02:05:46,153 --> 02:05:48,355
it is kind of a little bit of history here. So, as we have separated the

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02:05:48,355 --> 02:05:57,355
two buildings and the components, the work on the site plan and the village hall

1219
02:06:00,234 --> 02:06:03,905
site continued and here we have the rudimentary and very schematic level site plan here

1220
02:06:03,905 --> 02:06:07,208
showing the existing village hall and the location of the new addition which pursued the

1221
02:06:07,208 --> 02:06:14,949
east side kind of public access way and we have parking shown here and the green lawn of

1222
02:06:14,949 --> 02:06:21,656
course still remains in this image and we have some public plaza and the south end of the

1223
02:06:21,656 --> 02:06:28,529
building is celebrated as the main entrance and the new addition provides a new secure

1224
02:06:28,529 --> 02:06:35,669
cuncil chamber and entrance. Loking first at the lower level - here we see that the

1225
02:06:35,669 --> 02:06:41,809
lower-level hlf of it shows the blank space where the police station has been removed

1226
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and that section there is open for future use by the village hall or other community groups.

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02:06:52,486 --> 02:06:55,489
it is kind of a whitespace in this plan. The northern part of the plan

1228
02:06:55,489 --> 02:07:01,962
have it and news facilities and requirement for the vllage hall staff.

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I will move pretty rapidly through this. The eastern spine here is shown

1230
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with the new council chamber and room 101 remaining as a public use room.

1231
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the courtyard open up to the eastern spine and the more protected and private areas

1232
02:07:14,976 --> 02:07:23,584
kind of the remainder being a secure zone for the work of the village hall to have or to meet

1233
02:07:23,584 --> 02:07:31,384
modern requirements for security, privacy, etc. On the upper level, the mezzanine also

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02:07:33,463 --> 02:07:43,463
devoted to the work of the offices are clustered around r the exterior and we see the

1235
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upper level of the new council chamber and the old in this plan, as well.

1236
02:07:49,345 --> 02:07:53,816
a couple of design concepts and disk idea of the public plaza was very important to welcome

1237
02:07:53,816 --> 02:07:59,488
the community into the building and really look at where the south has a drop off and that

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is the entrance that most people are using for the village hall and also keeping

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the courtyard entrance open with two additional doors.

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02:08:14,570 --> 02:08:18,107
looking back to see some stairs ramping up to really celebrate that so people know where they

1241
02:08:18,107 --> 02:08:21,177
are supposed to enter and looking at the council chamber, very important to provide

1242
02:08:21,177 --> 02:08:27,450
looking at the materials in a way that was discussed with you and the building committee

1243
02:08:27,450 --> 02:08:31,521
early and this idea of more materials and more environment and a sense of transparency and

1244
02:08:31,521 --> 02:08:34,557
built on the idea of transparent government. That is really important to

1245
02:08:34,557 --> 02:08:37,759
bring forward to the idea of the council chamber. When we look at the addition,

1246
02:08:37,759 --> 02:08:46,759
this is the look of the building and this building has a very strong architecture

1247
02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:51,207
statement to say the least when we are looking at how we complement something like this

1248
02:08:51,207 --> 02:09:00,807
we thought it should be a using major angles or another kind of over strong expression

1249
02:09:02,618 --> 02:09:08,324
of geometry which is the instead we took one gesture d which is this kind of ramp that

1250
02:09:08,324 --> 02:09:12,361
we have outside and the layered effects of these vertical elements and said what if we

1251
02:09:12,361 --> 02:09:16,565
talked about that and we arrange them mostly so there is a sense of transparency and the

1252
02:09:16,565 --> 02:09:25,565
new council chamber abuts the back and it is kind of celebrated incredibly oma's to

1253
02:09:26,108 --> 02:09:29,645
what the building is all about and one side of that window would be a place for the public

1254
02:09:29,645 --> 02:09:34,416
to have small meetings and it is a conference room and will still be used on the other side

1255
02:09:34,416 --> 02:09:37,653
would be the council chamber with the public in this community speak so loudly and

1256
02:09:37,653 --> 02:09:40,322
boldly and it is a nice area there. The transparency of government

1257
02:09:40,322 --> 02:09:45,728
is the other idea that we are looking at with having those vertical elements and you can

1258
02:09:45,728 --> 02:09:53,936
kind of see straight through here and we can control the view for other ideas of

1259
02:09:53,936 --> 02:09:57,940
security, but really having really important.sparency was have a view of the ramp going

1260
02:09:57,940 --> 02:10:04,413
up and up main stairs and function space with a clear box in the front and the council

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02:10:04,413 --> 02:10:07,750
chamber to the right. Here is another view of that and this is what the new

1262
02:10:07,750 --> 02:10:14,890
council chamber would look like from one area it is very protected and you cannot cnn

1263
02:10:14,890 --> 02:10:17,920
from the other it is completely transparent and you can see right through it.

1264
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:27,920
that is the general idea of the village hall project and of course this also includes in

1265
02:10:27,370 --> 02:10:30,339
the numbers, rehabilitation systems and other items related to the project.

1266
02:10:30,339 --> 02:10:34,644
turning to the police department - a moment here when the police department decided

1267
02:10:34,644 --> 02:10:37,646
to go to the other property and what we are looking at here is the idea of the municipal court

1268
02:10:37,646 --> 02:10:44,387
order and all of these facilities we think that that is really exciting and perhaps

1269
02:10:44,387 --> 02:10:50,326
there are some residents between substrate furniture and other ideas between areas which

1270
02:10:50,326 --> 02:10:58,668
would be quite compelling. As we look at how we address the police department and

1271
02:10:58,668 --> 02:11:02,537
looking at we have the existing building and it is very high-level and just moving very

1272
02:11:02,537 --> 02:11:08,277
quickly through the existing building which we are working with we have the addition and

1273
02:11:08,277 --> 02:11:15,284
those two areas comprise the spaces for the program for the police department and then of

1274
02:11:15,284 --> 02:11:17,352
course we have the parking garage. The public realm is very

1275
02:11:17,352 --> 02:11:20,756
important and the building is really sitting tight to the sidewalk and looking at how can

1276
02:11:20,756 --> 02:11:30,433
that public be embraced with paving or greenery and trees etc. And it does become a vry

1277
02:11:30,433 --> 02:11:35,771
large imposing building and looking at how we can use material to in some ways break

1278
02:11:35,771 --> 02:11:44,113
up a little bit of that fac and looking at materiality and looking at strong, durable,

1279
02:11:44,113 --> 02:11:49,252
safe materials for the police station and also the glass for the transparent areas and then

1280
02:11:49,252 --> 02:11:56,920
the parking garage which is at the west end and looking at ways that that needs to be

1281
02:11:56,920 --> 02:12:04,667
strong and protect the users at the same time. These floorplans I will just go

1282
02:12:04,667 --> 02:12:07,937
through as rob has mentioned for safety sake we do not go through everything a portion of

1283
02:12:07,937 --> 02:12:14,343
this, but all of this to say we have the parking and the blue and gray areas at the center

1284
02:12:14,343 --> 02:12:23,486
for a back of house private area and the green area at the corner there to the upper

1285
02:12:23,486 --> 02:12:27,756
right-hand corner which is the community room public space where the community is welcomed

1286
02:12:27,756 --> 02:12:30,660
into this building. We had some good discussions about how this is a community

1287
02:12:30,660 --> 02:12:34,564
building and a oak park community building and not police station that the

1288
02:12:34,564 --> 02:12:41,504
community can come into. And on the roof level we see some certain spaces and on the

1289
02:12:41,504 --> 02:12:48,444
second level, this is all police and private areas and I go into that with the public

1290
02:12:48,444 --> 02:12:52,648
record and I will mention that the offices and conference areas are to the east and the

1291
02:12:52,648 --> 02:13:02,248
more private areas may be to the back into the west. We had some good discussions

1292
02:13:02,325 --> 02:13:08,864
with village manager jackson and president scaman as well trying to see revisiting what

1293
02:13:08,864 --> 02:13:18,464
we had discussed in the initial design and what really makes this a oak park police

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02:13:20,576 --> 02:13:23,279
department. And first of all the sense of community and we wanted this

1295
02:13:23,279 --> 02:13:27,750
idea of a welcoming front porch that the community is really welcomed into this building and

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02:13:27,750 --> 02:13:32,555
it is a community building. Second was a theme of honor and respect to the history and

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02:13:32,555 --> 02:13:42,555
service and what it takes to be a police officer and to have an attitude of honor and respect

1298
02:13:43,271 --> 02:13:46,974
for the profession. And an idea of welcoming that the police here are welcoming

1299
02:13:46,974 --> 02:13:53,414
and that spirit of we are here for you as the community policing and also an exciting

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02:13:53,414 --> 02:14:00,388
moment bringing forward the idea of art in the community and that being a way to express

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02:14:00,388 --> 02:14:07,995
the personality and essence of oak park and there is so much public art here that that would

1302
02:14:07,995 --> 02:14:16,995
be a desirable way to bring that into the fac building in a meaningful way.

1303
02:14:17,537 --> 02:14:20,941
of community and making a strong corner presence, this is where the glass part of the

1304
02:14:20,941 --> 02:14:24,110
first floor would be the community room and there is office functions up above and

1305
02:14:24,110 --> 02:14:29,283
you can see the diagram on the upper left-hand corner. The idea that this is the

1306
02:14:29,283 --> 02:14:39,260
corner point and the threshold if you will and the easternmost area of oak park and moving

1307
02:14:39,260 --> 02:14:42,830
forward thinking about this moment of honor, we are looking at the welcome desk and the

1308
02:14:42,830 --> 02:14:50,770
entry area as being a place where there would be a moment of honor or respect for the

1309
02:14:50,770 --> 02:14:54,375
police right at the entrance and that could be incorporated into some art exhibits as well

1310
02:14:54,375 --> 02:14:58,511
as we look at how this functions. And then thinking about the

1311
02:14:58,511 --> 02:15:03,651
whole fac course could be incorporated. So that way you kind of have

1312
02:15:03,651 --> 02:15:08,550
that sense of it being a welcoming presence along madison street there.

1313
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:15,329
and kind of making sure that it is a lively and welcoming place in the evening as well as

1314
02:15:15,329 --> 02:15:19,232
during the day. And then thinking also about these ideas of public art and

1315
02:15:19,232 --> 02:15:27,632
presenting a moment perhaps where there is working with a muralist or various muralists

1316
02:15:36,350 --> 02:15:39,352
or just a semblance that art would come into the building and the artwork would define

1317
02:15:39,352 --> 02:15:42,957
the public realm and come into the building so that you are really welcomed into this idea

1318
02:15:42,957 --> 02:15:49,229
of oak park community. We are happy to answer any questions about the design

1319
02:15:49,229 --> 02:15:56,570
specifically and we will move have been shared, as well.which so, as we turn our hand or turn

1320
02:15:56,570 --> 02:16:02,877
our minds and eyes to village hall and where the estimated construction costs are falling,

1321
02:16:02,877 --> 02:16:10,217
we have here and sorry, my eyes are bad and I will lean over and squint a little bit and

1322
02:16:10,217 --> 02:16:16,223
looking at the basic renovation in addition coming in at the 27 million of the maintenance

1323
02:16:16,223 --> 02:16:25,223
items which include a lot of exterior work and just obvious conditions and the envelope

1324
02:16:25,966 --> 02:16:34,366
windows in the building, the l courtyard windows and others a total of $33 million.

1325
02:16:36,810 --> 02:16:44,418
there is the ad alternates which are listed there if those would be chosen and then be

1326
02:16:44,418 --> 02:16:48,210
included of course some ideas about escalation and about how this is the nature of money and

1327
02:16:48,210 --> 02:16:55,229
time and construction costs. We do have more itemized breakdowns here kind of looking

1328
02:16:55,229 --> 02:17:00,634
at the envelope improvements and there was a request last time and there were buckets of

1329
02:17:00,634 --> 02:17:08,275
money that were more itemized and we included them this year for conversation and where the

1330
02:17:08,275 --> 02:17:15,475
exterior improvements and the maintenance side and renovations fall and also shows

1331
02:17:16,850 --> 02:17:20,254
the subtotals about the construction cost and where they are for things like

1332
02:17:20,254 --> 02:17:24,591
escalation and general conditions and other contractor fees and contingencies on this

1333
02:17:24,591 --> 02:17:30,631
page. And we do get a sense of where the mechanical systems are and

1334
02:17:30,631 --> 02:17:39,631
speaking of which - you are very quiet efficient systems! And where the mechanicals and

1335
02:17:41,208 --> 02:17:46,813
the electrical etc. And where all of these line items come into contribute to the final

1336
02:17:46,813 --> 02:17:52,813
cost. And turning to the police department we have separated

1337
02:17:52,987 --> 02:17:58,158
the two sections of the renovated existing building and the addition into the 44.6

1338
02:17:58,158 --> 02:18:04,865
million and the secure police parking garage at 10.5 million and the various site

1339
02:18:04,865 --> 02:18:12,665
developments allowing the project to go forward at 2.3 that comes to the 57.5 million.

1340
02:18:12,773 --> 02:18:19,113
and again we can see the alternates just one alternate here and then the price of

1341
02:18:19,113 --> 02:18:27,188
delay which is the escalations that come along with that. As far as breakdown, these two

1342
02:18:27,188 --> 02:18:35,588
you can see more detailed breakdown for site development and the police department and

1343
02:18:36,630 --> 02:18:44,271
the parking garage, as well.n and so we see these numbers right here.

1344
02:18:44,271 --> 02:18:49,276
and with that if there are any questions that we can answer, we are happy to do so.

1345
02:18:49,276 --> 02:18:58,276
>>rob sproul: just one point of clarification, the delivery on schematic design was for the

1346
02:19:08,229 --> 02:19:11,564
village hall project as well as the police station. What you have before you

1347
02:19:11,564 --> 02:19:14,435
tonight is a motion to advance the police station component of this project.

1348
02:19:14,435 --> 02:19:17,571
that does not mean that staff is abandoning the rest of the work that has occurred at

1349
02:19:17,571 --> 02:19:25,178
village hall. I do think that we want to work with the architectural team to

1350
02:19:25,178 --> 02:19:29,182
evaluate how that project can be further phased in more meaningful ways over time and

1351
02:19:29,182 --> 02:19:31,919
maybe that work continues on more through our capital plan and is acknowledged through

1352
02:19:31,919 --> 02:19:39,719
that process in a meaningful fashion. So, the focus tonight is on the

1353
02:19:40,794 --> 02:19:44,640
police station, but it is not the intent here to abandon the rest of the work that has

1354
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:49,241
occurred. There is a lot of good work and recommendations for improvement

1355
02:19:49,241 --> 02:19:55,480
that can happen here even on a incremental level that we would continue to advance forward.

1356
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but, if the board has a different perspective on that we would be happy to hear that

1357
02:19:58,750 --> 02:20:04,956
tonight, as well and can make any adjustments necessary as it relates to that.

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>>president scaman: who would like to start us off? >>trustee wesley: I appreciate

1359
02:20:14,990 --> 02:20:18,299
the presentation as always, meg. Great detail.

1360
02:20:22,507 --> 02:20:31,149
the number one question I have goes back to one of the questions I had last time we

1361
02:20:31,149 --> 02:20:34,619
talked about this is that we have these exclusions, but there is no quantification

1362
02:20:34,619 --> 02:20:37,656
around them and I don't know how to value them. >>meg: I will speak into this,

1363
02:20:37,656 --> 02:20:44,196
that has to do with the construction manager is going to be hired as well and some of

1364
02:20:44,196 --> 02:20:49,334
those would be kind of fine-tuned related to their contract and their approach.

1365
02:20:49,334 --> 02:20:55,173
some things like is this nightwork or is it not and are they accelerating some of that

1366
02:20:55,173 --> 02:20:59,143
stuff and how they approach the project that will come out in those kind of figures related

1367
02:20:59,143 --> 02:21:09,143
to the manner in which the work is done and we can present the design and work with our cost

1368
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:15,293
estimator to say like how much will this cost and then when it comes down to it, the

1369
02:21:15,293 --> 02:21:21,867
construction manager will determine if you want it fast like this and how - the how and

1370
02:21:21,867 --> 02:21:27,867
methodologies. So, those exclusions are accommodated by the c mark.

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02:21:31,843 --> 02:21:40,919
>>trustee wesley: this is a question that is more for you, rob or maybe kevin, can we get

1372
02:21:40,919 --> 02:21:49,794
a small, medium, large estimate around the exclusions so we can estimated all in cost to the l

1373
02:21:49,794 --> 02:21:54,465
project? Because, we still don't really have that.

1374
02:21:54,465 --> 02:21:57,903
that is better than what we had last time and we can incrementally move forward in a

1375
02:21:57,903 --> 02:22:02,674
more granular and better estimate and I do appreciate that and I do appreciate that

1376
02:22:02,674 --> 02:22:10,615
the number also looks better, but I do not know how much better without knowing how to

1377
02:22:10,615 --> 02:22:16,421
quantify the amount of these exclusions. >>rob sproul: we can talk

1378
02:22:16,421 --> 02:22:22,930
off-line with the team about trying to get you some understanding with that number.

1379
02:22:22,930 --> 02:22:26,965
change and even through the process, because things like design contingency and

1380
02:22:26,965 --> 02:22:31,903
construction contingency, as you continue to develop the design and move through that

1381
02:22:31,903 --> 02:22:36,308
process, those numbers actually go down because the risk associated with the design goes

1382
02:22:36,308 --> 02:22:40,245
down. So, there is a lot of fluctuation that happens

1383
02:22:40,245 --> 02:22:45,183
through the process as we continue to advance through the numbers.

1384
02:22:45,183 --> 02:22:51,256
and we can talk about maybe what a percentage increase looks like over that.

1385
02:22:51,256 --> 02:22:57,229
and I mean just I will leave it there. >>trustee wesley: I appreciate

1386
02:22:57,229 --> 02:23:02,629
that. And I'm always fine with numbers going down.

1387
02:23:06,404 --> 02:23:10,141
if you give me a high number and you come back later and you can say hey, guess what, the

1388
02:23:10,141 --> 02:23:13,745
number changed and it went down, I would say thank you. >>rob sproul: and that is

1389
02:23:13,745 --> 02:23:17,415
always - we understand that that is the expectation through the process and the design

1390
02:23:17,415 --> 02:23:22,200
process you always want to be more conservative and as you continue to refine that design,

1391
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:29,820
you typically have opportunities to reduce costs when possible and we have been

1392
02:23:32,196 --> 02:23:39,237
going through the c-mar process and there are ecstatic contractors and they are very

1393
02:23:39,237 --> 02:23:42,907
excited to be able to see how early they are getting involved and they are very confident

1394
02:23:42,907 --> 02:23:47,645
that they would bring a lot of value to the project and understand again the board 's

1395
02:23:47,645 --> 02:23:53,645
desire to find opportunities. >>trustee wesley: I definitely appreciate that.

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02:23:57,722 --> 02:24:05,997
and I would say the sooner the better on that and obviously based on what you just said, as

1397
02:24:05,997 --> 02:24:12,470
well. That is really honestly - I will not belabor the point on

1398
02:24:12,470 --> 02:24:16,700
this one. This is just really mostly what I had.

1399
02:24:16,700 --> 02:24:23,782
I would like to be able to know what like the maximum number that we are going to spend on

1400
02:24:23,782 --> 02:24:33,382
this is and I would say that this is going to cost $75 million or less, right?

1401
02:24:34,225 --> 02:24:37,629
and I can say when pople ask what does it cost? $75 million or less or whatever

1402
02:24:37,629 --> 02:24:42,968
the number is. And that - >>rob sproul: are you okay with

1403
02:24:42,968 --> 02:24:46,605
200 million or less? >>trustee wesley: 40 billion is what I just heard!

1404
02:24:46,605 --> 02:24:51,510
>>rob sproul: that is a good point and a reminder tonight we are not signing any contracts,

1405
02:24:51,510 --> 02:24:54,913
the intent is to return to the board with those contracts and that is something that we can

1406
02:24:54,913 --> 02:24:58,850
have by the time we returned with the contract for jlk and the construction manager to be

1407
02:24:58,850 --> 02:25:03,121
able to give you that level of information. >>trustee wesley: perfect.

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02:25:03,121 --> 02:25:09,721
I appreciate that. >>president scaman: jim? >>trustee taglia: thank you for

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02:25:10,610 --> 02:25:16,334
the work. It is very pleasant looking complex or campus that you are

1410
02:25:16,334 --> 02:25:20,805
working on. I appreciate that. There is a lot of good thoughts

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02:25:20,805 --> 02:25:24,475
here just a quick question on the underlying police station numbers that we have today so

1412
02:25:24,475 --> 02:25:31,415
far based upon these - can you tell me how it compares with the last look just a few months

1413
02:25:31,415 --> 02:25:33,251
ago? Is there much in the way of differences?

1414
02:25:33,251 --> 02:25:42,851
that we can quantify just so we can understand what direction we are headed at least?

1415
02:25:48,566 --> 02:25:56,366
>>meg: so, we, yes, thank you very much. Thank you for pointing this

1416
02:25:58,514 --> 02:26:05,714
out. We had a previous cost of 63.7 that was the previous concept

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02:26:06,523 --> 02:26:10,493
phase plan and price for this. And tat has come down and we have done some value

1418
02:26:10,493 --> 02:26:16,933
engineering and trying to figure out how we can be even at schematic design level

1419
02:26:16,933 --> 02:26:24,341
trying to be clever with how we ae using space or selecting materials, etc. So, it has come

1420
02:26:24,341 --> 02:26:30,747
down and we are at the point where we are scraping kind of where we need and what we

1421
02:26:30,747 --> 02:26:38,421
really need to spend to have a police facility that is durable, proper, adhering to

1422
02:26:38,421 --> 02:26:43,960
proper standards for police because they deserve a building that protects them as they

1423
02:26:43,960 --> 02:26:48,965
protect you and so we have to have certain things in this building for the idea of a

1424
02:26:48,965 --> 02:26:58,208
police station. And we are being prudent and I mean we do - I don't know 95%

1425
02:26:58,208 --> 02:27:01,745
pblic work at jlk and dewberry and we are good stewards and we tried to provide public with a

1426
02:27:01,745 --> 02:27:08,785
good value. And I think that accepting the challenge of like how prudent

1427
02:27:08,785 --> 02:27:11,922
can you be or how careful can you be and we take that to heart.

1428
02:27:11,922 --> 02:27:21,922
so, we accepted the challenge and we did get it down and this is a $200 million building or

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02:27:23,266 --> 02:27:25,735
however - >>trustee taglia: the last update is a reduction.

1430
02:27:25,735 --> 02:27:31,541
is this a reduction? >>meg: this is a reduction again.

1431
02:27:31,541 --> 02:27:34,210
>>trustee taglia: that is great. I appreciate that.

1432
02:27:34,210 --> 02:27:42,418
may I ask about the village hall portion? And rob, I just want to get a

1433
02:27:42,418 --> 02:27:48,625
little bit more background in this is the first I've heard of this where I am stepping back a

1434
02:27:48,625 --> 02:27:51,161
little bit and I just want to understand this a little bit more.

1435
02:27:51,161 --> 02:27:58,961
what is the reasoning behind this? Is this too much to bite off?

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>>manager jackson: we just want to make sure that as we move forward, the project

1437
02:28:05,609 --> 02:28:11,114
encompasses everything that we are doing that we are contemplating financially with

1438
02:28:11,114 --> 02:28:17,754
the introduction project and large ones and there is an opportunity for wicked phase

1439
02:28:17,754 --> 02:28:21,124
this in and not saying that is what we should do, but we just want to make sure that we have

1440
02:28:21,124 --> 02:28:24,261
that option and pathway that is available and what it may look like.

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02:28:24,261 --> 02:28:33,261
>>trustee taglia: and why would that be beneficial as opposed to doing it as asingular

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project? >>manager jackson: I think you would be beneficial in the

1443
02:28:37,674 --> 02:28:42,780
context of what the board 's ultimate preferences are and how they want - the financial

1444
02:28:42,780 --> 02:28:48,751
commitments that they want to make and a variety of projects that they have in front of us.

1445
02:28:48,751 --> 02:28:54,758
we have talked to the finance committee and the board has adopted a framework for

1446
02:28:54,758 --> 02:29:01,831
financing the village hall in its entirety. So, we understand that that is

1447
02:29:01,831 --> 02:29:11,831
a possibility and that we could do this in a responsible manner and ultimately save a lot of

1448
02:29:12,420 --> 02:29:15,679
money over time because of phasing it will be more expensive, but from a

1449
02:29:15,679 --> 02:29:20,116
decision-making standpoint - the board wants to focus on the police station first.

1450
02:29:20,116 --> 02:29:26,323
and then we shift to having a more thoughtful conversation about the village hall and I

1451
02:29:26,323 --> 02:29:32,395
think the idea is to really make sure that we fully vet this for the different possible

1452
02:29:32,395 --> 02:29:38,335
pathways. So, we can do this all at once and that still may yet be the

1453
02:29:38,335 --> 02:29:42,500
board 's choice or if you wanted to phase this end, this is what it would look like and

1454
02:29:42,500 --> 02:29:45,308
they would be trade-offs that you would have to consider as part of phasing it in.

1455
02:29:45,308 --> 02:29:52,480
>>trustee taglia: a little bit of capacity concern, but that is not a bad thing.

1456
02:29:52,480 --> 02:30:00,423
>>manager jackson: I think it is just due diligence. >>rob sproul: and there is an

1457
02:30:00,423 --> 02:30:03,760
understanding that a lot of the work that will happen in village hall is predicated on

1458
02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:06,830
the police moving out of the basement. So, there is time, right?

1459
02:30:06,830 --> 02:30:11,168
so, w were to try to honor the board 's preference to accelerate the police station

1460
02:30:11,168 --> 02:30:20,768
project understanding that we had time to deal with village hall on kind of a different

1461
02:30:23,480 --> 02:30:26,116
timeline then the police station. >>trustee taglia: very good.

1462
02:30:26,116 --> 02:30:29,452
thank you. Scaman: this has not actually changed - we have always said

1463
02:30:29,452 --> 02:30:32,722
from the very beginning that the police department was the priority.

1464
02:30:32,722 --> 02:30:36,293
but that we also wanted to understand all of what was our responsibility and what all of

1465
02:30:36,293 --> 02:30:39,663
our needs are and on day one - I say that you pull it police station out of the basement and

1466
02:30:39,663 --> 02:30:46,200
you are going to need to address that. So, we have been looking for

1467
02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:48,405
all of the iformation from day one. And it has been said at every

1468
02:30:48,405 --> 02:30:53,276
step of the way that it will become at some point our choice to at what rate we do that.

1469
02:30:53,276 --> 02:31:02,752
and we have always said the police station is the priority, but it is not going to end

1470
02:31:02,752 --> 02:31:09,352
there. And so nothing is changed. Just an order of events.

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02:31:10,860 --> 02:31:15,600
(chuckle). >>trustee taglia: I am done, sorry.

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02:31:20,970 --> 02:31:24,640
>>trustee eder: I will go next. Thank you. At all of the work.

1473
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:31,513
and I echo trustee wesley 's comments, the number going down is good.

1474
02:31:31,513 --> 02:31:39,521
I - I did see the number go up recollection?all - is this my I think I remember it was the

1475
02:31:39,521 --> 02:31:47,530
26 million range and now it is up to 33, did I - >>meg: we had a couple of

1476
02:31:47,530 --> 02:31:53,670
different versions and ways of dealing with village hall and at one point the council

1477
02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:57,673
chamber was larger and elsewhere and it was moving around.

1478
02:31:57,673 --> 02:32:06,482
places.smaller in different and this is where after kind of moving the design through the

1479
02:32:06,482 --> 02:32:09,192
various iterations we had shared, selecting one and further developing it and

1480
02:32:09,192 --> 02:32:13,230
looking at how things need to change in between to actually work and get the elevator in an

1481
02:32:13,230 --> 02:32:20,103
all of the pieces and parts in place appropriately so that the council chamber was right sized

1482
02:32:20,103 --> 02:32:30,103
so that we had the pre-function space that was adequate to make that ada and accessible in full

1483
02:32:30,180 --> 02:32:36,320
public entrance appropriate. And just today as I was walking from the west you know I wanted

1484
02:32:36,320 --> 02:32:45,129
to take a picture of the ada it should not be - and so which tweaking this building to get

1485
02:32:45,129 --> 02:32:51,869
it where it needs to be to respect the public and the and business changes that need

1486
02:32:51,869 --> 02:33:00,777
to be made with the project. >>trustee eder: and we are not approving that tonight and so

1487
02:33:00,777 --> 02:33:08,853
there is still more time to potentially refine - >>meg: and at risk to just

1488
02:33:08,853 --> 02:33:11,555
further explain - with an existing building there is always the work that comes in

1489
02:33:11,555 --> 02:33:16,930
the beginning and the low hanging fruit if there is some window work or masonry work or

1490
02:33:16,930 --> 02:33:19,463
maintenance items that are a part of a larger scope of work, there comes a time where the

1491
02:33:19,463 --> 02:33:24,434
changes to the mechanical systems really need to be made in tandem with changes to any

1492
02:33:24,434 --> 02:33:29,707
plans that you're making so that you get the benefit of getting all of your work done.

1493
02:33:29,707 --> 02:33:35,612
so, there comes a moment where that is very appropriate, but we achieve that, it is just how

1494
02:33:35,612 --> 02:33:44,120
that by step-by-step and analyzing and again - that is with existing structures where

1495
02:33:47,691 --> 02:33:53,363
you like how you say peck away at the bigger issue and then you get to the point where

1496
02:33:53,363 --> 02:33:55,599
eventually there is the bigger moment. But, there is lots of steps

1497
02:33:55,599 --> 02:33:59,336
before that. >>trustee eder: got it. Thank you.

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I know that we are pretty far down the road and 63 - 57, that is good.

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I am also really interested in seeing the ways that we can reduce that even further

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02:34:10,481 --> 02:34:17,454
because as we are talking about this at the finance committee and the budget and the debt

1501
02:34:17,454 --> 02:34:21,825
that this village is going to have to take on with bonds to pay for this in the debt

1502
02:34:21,825 --> 02:34:27,164
service that we are going to have to pay over 30 years to pay this off - anything that we

1503
02:34:27,164 --> 02:34:32,503
can do now to reduce this large ticket item even though it is a one-time expense, that will

1504
02:34:32,503 --> 02:34:37,708
affect the amount of money that we have t stand over 30 years. And so I'm really curious if

1505
02:34:37,708 --> 02:34:44,381
there is any other areas that you think potentially could be additional savings and

1506
02:34:44,381 --> 02:34:47,500
particularly interested in the parking garage and it just seems massive.

1507
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:54,525
like it is a double-decker and I know there is probably needs for secure parking and things

1508
02:34:54,525 --> 02:34:59,329
like that, but $10 million for a parking garage - I mean please explain how that is so

1509
02:34:59,329 --> 02:35:07,337
needed and the scale of it and need all of those parking we spaces and I'm very curious

1510
02:35:07,337 --> 02:35:14,440
what we can do there. >>meg: bills are the number of parking spaces required for the

1511
02:35:14,440 --> 02:35:17,748
program and I think there is not enough parking spaces right now and there needs to be

1512
02:35:17,748 --> 02:35:25,548
adequate parking spaces for patrol change for the necessary vehicles and then protecting

1513
02:35:26,223 --> 02:35:30,494
again like that is a very station when people are olice arriving by car with shift

1514
02:35:30,494 --> 02:35:35,232
change and whatnot and we can always look at everything if there is a more efficient

1515
02:35:35,232 --> 02:35:38,969
fiscally responsible way to do that and again we have been doing serious value engineering

1516
02:35:38,969 --> 02:35:47,177
in this process, as well. Think the one thing that stands out is stepping back even from

1517
02:35:47,177 --> 02:35:55,577
that - construction always just gets more expensive. And these numbers are for a

1518
02:35:57,454 --> 02:36:00,457
2027 dart and everything escalates if you move to 2028 and that is the thing that you

1519
02:36:00,457 --> 02:36:05,280
can do to not make that more expensive and do it sooner. That is the only thing that I

1520
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:10,428
bring to that. Everything will just get more expensive.

1521
02:36:10,667 --> 02:36:14,204
>>rob sproul: it is important to note that the intent of the parking garage is to serve all

1522
02:36:14,204 --> 02:36:19,143
of the police squad vehicles and all of the vehicles that the village owns plus all of

1523
02:36:19,143 --> 02:36:25,810
the officers 's private vehicles which we do not provide that level of you know

1524
02:36:25,810 --> 02:36:30,254
just parking on the street. And we have to account for I think it is the afternoon shift

1525
02:36:30,254 --> 02:36:36,893
change where you actually have basically almost everybody and all three shifts converging at

1526
02:36:36,893 --> 02:36:42,966
the same time and this motion that is on and a shift that is coming off and there vehicles

1527
02:36:42,966 --> 02:36:46,803
are there as well and you have the new shift coming on and you need to account for all of

1528
02:36:46,803 --> 02:36:51,642
those spots and it is a lot of parking, but if you want to provide secure safe parking for

1529
02:36:51,642 --> 02:36:56,647
the police officers, you have to account for all of that parking just for that window in

1530
02:36:56,647 --> 02:37:03,847
those couple windows of time each day. >>trustee eder: I would still

1531
02:37:06,189 --> 02:37:10,126
love to see it come down if possible. Any other areas that you see as

1532
02:37:10,126 --> 02:37:17,326
opportunities for reduction in cost and other parts of the build out?

1533
02:37:18,401 --> 02:37:22,139
>>rob sproul: from my perspective the biggest opportunity is when we get the

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02:37:22,139 --> 02:37:25,475
construction manager on and they're able to work directly with the engineering and

1535
02:37:25,475 --> 02:37:29,880
architecture team t talk through some of the design decisions that they have been

1536
02:37:29,880 --> 02:37:34,351
making and maybe opportunities to change the construction method that may be they had

1537
02:37:34,351 --> 02:37:43,951
assumed or change timelines on how quickly things can get done or you know opportunities to

1538
02:37:44,270 --> 02:37:47,564
purchase materials sooner. Think that there are some opportunities and there is also

1539
02:37:47,564 --> 02:37:52,302
quite a bit of - I should not say quite a bit and I don't know exactly what that means,

1540
02:37:52,302 --> 02:37:59,420
but there is contingency related to the structure of the existing building and we have

1541
02:37:59,420 --> 02:38:02,646
not been able to get as much information about the existing building as we want and so we

1542
02:38:02,646 --> 02:38:11,646
have had to kind of worst-case scenario that situation and if things are not worst-case

1543
02:38:12,990 --> 02:38:15,658
scenario, there may be potential for cost savings there as we can refine the

1544
02:38:15,658 --> 02:38:19,669
design based on the actual circumstances that exist. I don't think that we are going

1545
02:38:19,669 --> 02:38:25,174
to see huge reductions, but I think that we all and I think everyone here and even the

1546
02:38:25,174 --> 02:38:28,745
construction managers that we were talking to all understand the importance of finding

1547
02:38:28,745 --> 02:38:34,483
additional value savings with the project and everybody knows that it's kind of one of the

1548
02:38:34,483 --> 02:38:41,830
primary drivers of moving this project forward. >>trustee eder: and I

1549
02:38:41,557 --> 02:38:44,961
appreciate all you've done so far to reduce it and I'll keep repeating myself t hammer that

1550
02:38:44,961 --> 02:38:50,767
home. Last question I think - is the cost of acquiring the building,

1551
02:38:50,767 --> 02:38:56,167
the bank building included in this? Additional 2.6 or something,

1552
02:38:57,974 --> 02:39:00,577
right? >>rob sproul: the number has not been determined.

1553
02:39:00,577 --> 02:39:09,577
>>trustee eder: not determine. Something in the ballpark. I think those are all of the

1554
02:39:10,253 --> 02:39:15,325
questions I had and I appreciate the work and any opportunities would be greatly

1555
02:39:15,325 --> 02:39:22,525
appreciated by everyone in the community. Straw: we have talked a lot

1556
02:39:23,533 --> 02:39:30,607
about the cost has gone down and that is great. I actually want to zoom out on

1557
02:39:30,607 --> 02:39:35,545
that point a little bit, because we have talked about the $6 million in savings from

1558
02:39:35,545 --> 02:39:41,751
last time you were here, but I think as important context when we started having these

1559
02:39:41,751 --> 02:39:50,151
conversations back in 2024, the estimate of building a new police station on a separate

1560
02:39:53,230 --> 02:39:59,830
site and making renovations and improvements to village hall was $140 million.

1561
02:40:01,571 --> 02:40:09,779
and so the combined number that we are down to now of building a new police station off site

1562
02:40:09,779 --> 02:40:16,379
and renovating and improving village hall is a combined about $90 million.

1563
02:40:17,921 --> 02:40:26,620
so, through this process and through your diligent work and through the advocacy of full,

1564
02:40:26,620 --> 02:40:34,462
board and the work of staff, we have reduced the sticker price by $50 million.

1565
02:40:36,273 --> 02:40:40,743
and that is no small achievement. So, I am incredibly grateful

1566
02:40:40,743 --> 02:40:50,743
for all of the work that everyone has put in on this over the last two years.

1567
02:40:51,287 --> 02:41:01,287
I do think - the design for the police department, it makes sense and obviously if we can

1568
02:41:05,301 --> 02:41:14,901
save more money you know I agree that would be lovely. I want to reiterate that.

1569
02:41:16,245 --> 02:41:23,586
when do you expect that on the village hall side that you would be coming back with what

1570
02:41:23,586 --> 02:41:30,600
the timeline and the phasing approach that you want to discuss with us would be so

1571
02:41:30,600 --> 02:41:39,600
that we - when would you expect that we would be making decisions on that?

1572
02:41:39,803 --> 02:41:48,203
>>manager jackson: cfo b reminds me about the financing plan and we have adopted

1573
02:41:53,149 --> 02:41:58,855
financial framework to initiate construction of the village hall improvements in 2028 first

1574
02:41:58,855 --> 02:42:07,855
quarter. And this means you know and maybe we can put this in a more

1575
02:42:07,896 --> 02:42:12,302
specific timeframe to be able to really drill down on it and we kow that the conversation

1576
02:42:12,302 --> 02:42:21,177
about village hall, once we move this project once we move this along into design and into

1577
02:42:21,177 --> 02:42:28,384
construction in 2027, at least by early 2027 we need to start talking about the village hall

1578
02:42:28,384 --> 02:42:33,723
in anticipation of initiating the project in 2028. >>rob sproul: I would just say

1579
02:42:33,723 --> 02:42:39,195
in advance about you may see and speaking of the low hanging fruit, there are some things

1580
02:42:39,195 --> 02:42:44,199
that we think even within 2027 we should start to tackle in terms of the maintenance and we

1581
02:42:44,199 --> 02:42:52,475
have a million-dollar grant to help assist with replacing all of the glazing around council

1582
02:42:52,475 --> 02:42:55,912
chambers or not council chambers, but the courtyard and you may see even those projects

1583
02:42:55,912 --> 02:43:01,284
come in advance of that recession because the opportunity exists and the work

1584
02:43:01,284 --> 02:43:09,625
needs to get done to piece out some of those smaller projects. >>trustee straw: I bring this

1585
02:43:09,625 --> 02:43:13,363
up because one of the things that we have been discussing and certainly one of the things

1586
02:43:13,363 --> 02:43:19,969
that we have seen from the last decade of history in the village is when we delay these

1587
02:43:19,969 --> 02:43:29,569
projects, the costs go up. And we are looking here at the pricing around village hll

1588
02:43:30,179 --> 02:43:36,779
with escalations of 5 1/2, 12 and a half as those costs get delayed.

1589
02:43:40,155 --> 02:43:49,932
and certainly - I want us to be thoughtful about phasing in and be thoughtful about sort of

1590
02:43:49,932 --> 02:43:53,602
obviously we need a place for the police department to go before we start doing work in

1591
02:43:53,602 --> 02:44:03,602
the basement of village hall. These things all make sense. And I don't want us to delay

1592
02:44:08,484 --> 02:44:12,955
unnecessarily, because I cannot even - you know the history so much better than I do of how

1593
02:44:12,955 --> 02:44:22,955
long we have been discussing the ned to do a new police department and I have talked to

1594
02:44:25,969 --> 02:44:29,448
folks who say as long as they have been on the force, there has been talk about a new

1595
02:44:29,448 --> 02:44:36,648
police department. And the cost estimates have gone from - have magnified

1596
02:44:36,722 --> 02:44:44,522
immensely as a result of delays. Things to be in a similar place

1597
02:44:48,670 --> 02:44:56,142
where instead of the incredible cost reductions you have managed to achieve as we have

1598
02:44:56,142 --> 02:45:02,381
value engineered this, now you are looking at the cost increasing as a result of delay

1599
02:45:02,381 --> 02:45:10,181
and the fact that materials and labor all get more expensive over time.

1600
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>>president scaman: excellent. I'll keep doing this and insert a tiny bit so I do not forget

1601
02:45:20,432 --> 02:45:24,169
and I do not think that I have to keep defending some of this, I think we are largely together

1602
02:45:24,169 --> 02:45:29,675
and of the community is with us. But, we never actually voted

1603
02:45:29,675 --> 02:45:35,180
yes on $140 million and I know that you did not say that - I am just putting it out there -

1604
02:45:35,180 --> 02:45:40,652
what we voted yes on was to continue moving forward and every step of the way said can

1605
02:45:40,652 --> 02:45:47,927
you please make it cheaper. And so yes you have done that and you have proven that you

1606
02:45:47,927 --> 02:45:56,802
are constantly thinking about that and I will say that I have gone ahead and encourage my

1607
02:45:56,802 --> 02:46:00,406
colleagues if that is what is still on your mind you can go ahead and keep saying this.

1608
02:46:00,406 --> 02:46:06,212
but, I also want to give credit as you are also here and hopefully you hear this loud

1609
02:46:06,212 --> 02:46:11,883
and clear, that obviously you have been dligent and listening.

1610
02:46:11,883 --> 02:46:19,830
okay. Who would like to go next? All right, I'll just keep -

1611
02:46:19,492 --> 02:46:24,630
>>trustee leving-jacobson: okay. I will echo the gratitude for

1612
02:46:24,630 --> 02:46:31,503
the value engineering that is happening. I guess my question is like two

1613
02:46:31,503 --> 02:46:41,380
parts or if I am assuming the answer to the first - I know that there is a lot of

1614
02:46:41,380 --> 02:46:45,510
contingencies or factors keeping us from understanding costs related to whoever gets

1615
02:46:45,510 --> 02:46:51,256
put on as the project manager or construction manager. But, is there a ballpark that

1616
02:46:51,256 --> 02:47:00,256
we know like 2027 budget and 2028 budget would mean for this part of the municipal campus?

1617
02:47:02,340 --> 02:47:05,671
>>rob sproul: yes, I think so. I mean 2027 - yes. By the time that we are coming

1618
02:47:05,671 --> 02:47:14,680
back with these contracts we have the construction manager we will be able to give you an

1619
02:47:14,680 --> 02:47:20,190
idea of the completion on an order of magnitude scale. But, I think we should be able

1620
02:47:20,190 --> 02:47:27,994
to get that information to yu before the end of the year. >>trustee leving-jacobson: for

1621
02:47:27,994 --> 02:47:33,299
27 and 28? >>rob sproul: the completion of the police station project.

1622
02:47:33,299 --> 02:47:42,141
and as we kind of talk, there are those projects that we will probably start inserting into

1623
02:47:42,141 --> 02:47:46,612
the capital plan that we are maintenance projects associated with village hall so you get an

1624
02:47:46,612 --> 02:47:49,381
understanding of those and then we kind of circle back with staff and village manager and

1625
02:47:49,381 --> 02:47:59,381
we can probably be looking at q1, q2 two for a larger village hall and costs associated with

1626
02:48:00,559 --> 02:48:03,795
that. >>trustee leving-jacobson: so, what you think 2027 is going to

1627
02:48:03,795 --> 02:48:09,201
be - >>rob sproul: primarily design. And we hope that we will be in

1628
02:48:09,201 --> 02:48:12,271
a position to break ground at some point during the year. There is going to be some costs

1629
02:48:12,271 --> 02:48:16,408
associated with material purchase from the contractor to kind of start up, but the

1630
02:48:16,408 --> 02:48:22,140
majority of the cost associated with construction is going to come in 28 and 29.

1631
02:48:22,140 --> 02:48:26,285
>>trustee leving-jacobson: and acquisition - >>rob sproul: that is what we

1632
02:48:26,285 --> 02:48:35,285
are planning is associating. >>kevin bueso: kevin bueso, cfo for the village of oak park

1633
02:48:42,635 --> 02:48:50,376
erie so, this will include bond proceeds of $65 billion related to the police station which I

1634
02:48:50,376 --> 02:48:58,851
know is great news. And 2028 as we move the capital again ballpark amounts is on

1635
02:48:58,851 --> 02:49:07,851
the village hall we have at least $26.5 million and so just setting expectations again and

1636
02:49:13,732 --> 02:49:18,737
that does not necessarily align with what you are seeing here, because these are just again

1637
02:49:18,737 --> 02:49:21,740
estimates at this time. But, as we get closer to the actual budget amount, those

1638
02:49:21,740 --> 02:49:25,811
numbers are going to be going up. Abby budget as will be

1639
02:49:25,811 --> 02:49:32,151
presented for 2027 is going to include the bond proceed side on the revenue side on the

1640
02:49:32,151 --> 02:49:41,590
capital and then on the expenditure side it will be more again the numbers that rob

1641
02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:44,930
is talking about. Payout and cash flow, that is a different conversation.

1642
02:49:44,930 --> 02:49:51,837
that is the budget that is purely appropriating those funds and authorizing that we

1643
02:49:51,837 --> 02:49:55,574
are going to use the bond proceeds for that specific project.

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02:49:55,574 --> 02:50:03,382
capital plan is going to look a lot larger than what you're used to because of the bond

1645
02:50:03,382 --> 02:50:07,786
issuance is that we are planning for. 2028 as I mentioned, at least

1646
02:50:07,786 --> 02:50:16,395
as things are planned right now is for village hall again as the financing pan is currently

1647
02:50:16,395 --> 02:50:24,203
outlined for q1 and q2 of 2028 and that is going to be budgeted within that fiscal

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02:50:24,203 --> 02:50:30,203
year. Answers the question. But, I know that the numbers

1649
02:50:30,709 --> 02:50:35,614
themselves will be a lot larger than we normally see on the capital plan because if you

1650
02:50:35,614 --> 02:50:42,435
look at the budget you assume that all of that cash is going out, basil rob mentioned it

1651
02:50:42,435 --> 02:50:46,839
will be phased depending on when the work is actually done.

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02:50:46,839 --> 02:50:51,210
leving-jacobson: thank you. That is very helpful. >>president scaman: and since

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02:50:51,210 --> 02:50:55,515
you mentioned, you expect acquisition soon, can we just recap the timeline again?

1654
02:50:55,515 --> 02:51:04,515
>>rob sproul: so, I would say conservatively that we would expect to be breaking ground

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02:51:07,590 --> 02:51:11,129
before the end of next year. Think that we probably need to have some conversations with

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02:51:11,129 --> 02:51:15,134
the construction manager about logistics and what they would see as the best approach to

1657
02:51:15,134 --> 02:51:22,341
utilizing the site. It is a small site and it is bordered by two very busy

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02:51:22,341 --> 02:51:26,245
streets and so some of the assumptions that we have been making during the design phase

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02:51:26,245 --> 02:51:30,482
or staff was making about how the project to be phased in may need to be sweet with

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02:51:30,482 --> 02:51:38,882
deconstruction manager at risk and conservatively we will break ground before the end of

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02:51:41,627 --> 02:51:45,698
the year and if there is a phasing opportunity it could happen sooner assuming that

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02:51:45,698 --> 02:51:54,980
acquisition goes as hoped. >>meg: I concur working with the existing building and the

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02:51:57,175 --> 02:52:02,248
site, the contractor certainly wanted to get something done this year and whether that is

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02:52:02,248 --> 02:52:05,317
breaking new ground or whether that is working with the existing building and do

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02:52:05,317 --> 02:52:11,790
utility work, something will happen. I think that is what we want to

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02:52:11,790 --> 02:52:15,390
work toward. >>president scaman: okay. Jim?

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02:52:17,863 --> 02:52:23,202
>>trustee taglia: the last thing I want to mention about this item at the risk of

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02:52:23,202 --> 02:52:30,420
causing upset over my colleagues if push came to shove and if looking for cost

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02:52:30,420 --> 02:52:33,813
reduction we can always look at the construction of the new council chambers which we have

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02:52:33,813 --> 02:52:40,219
not discussed exactly what the cost, but I know it is not inexpensive and are not trying

1671
02:52:40,219 --> 02:52:45,291
to pick a fight here, I am just suggesting that things change, cost goes up and that is a

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02:52:45,291 --> 02:52:52,565
expendable item that we really - it is a want and perhaps there are some safety issues

1673
02:52:52,565 --> 02:53:02,565
that are present, but anyway - >>president scaman: first of all - we never get mad at you,

1674
02:53:04,844 --> 02:53:12,644
jim, but we should never say never - we value your input. Okay?

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02:53:13,151 --> 02:53:19,751
value your input. Correct, sometimes. We may have a disagreement, but

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02:53:20,860 --> 02:53:26,332
always value your input. Motion to go beyond 10 pm. >>speaker: moved.

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02:53:26,332 --> 02:53:33,532
>>speaker: second. >>president scaman: motion by trusted friend a and second by

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02:53:34,273 --> 02:53:35,474
trustee taglia. All in favor?

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02:53:35,474 --> 02:53:38,100
(multiple speakers) aye. >>president scaman: excellent.

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02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:42,615
who is next? You don't have to talk, that is fine, too.

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02:53:42,615 --> 02:53:50,415
>>trustee enyia: lower money is better. Obviously we think it is - I'm

1682
02:53:51,289 --> 02:53:55,627
glad that we have been able to bring down the cost and continue to find avenues to

1683
02:53:55,627 --> 02:54:03,102
bring that down. I agree - the easiest way to save more money on this is to

1684
02:54:03,102 --> 02:54:12,102
get this started sooner. So, I really appreciate all of the different avenues and the

1685
02:54:15,848 --> 02:54:21,921
reduction of almost $6 million and I think that we are taking the right steps.

1686
02:54:21,921 --> 02:54:31,396
I hope to hear mre about some of these things and how much that impacts the final number,

1687
02:54:31,396 --> 02:54:37,996
but I really like were it is going. >>president scaman: okay,

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02:54:41,473 --> 02:54:48,413
excellent. I just want to echo brian and trustee enyia and confirm

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02:54:48,413 --> 02:54:52,551
whether there is other direction to the same point, but I think the sooner the

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02:54:52,551 --> 02:54:58,551
better on al the projects. Trustee taglia 's opinion that

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02:55:03,829 --> 02:55:11,904
this room does not need to b replicated with the new space, I do disagree.

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02:55:11,904 --> 02:55:21,904
I do think that disability access very much matters and is not sufficient in this space or

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02:55:24,416 --> 02:55:28,453
access to this building at all. Many of you are aware that I have been caring for my mother

1694
02:55:28,453 --> 02:55:36,795
and she is with a walker now and that ramp that you mentioned access to would not

1695
02:55:36,795 --> 02:55:45,795
be safe for her without two people helping her. And that is something that she

1696
02:55:48,941 --> 02:55:52,440
said, that she would love to come back to illinois so she could see me back here in our

1697
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:54,480
member bob tucker used to make the same point when he was sitting in this seat.

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02:55:54,480 --> 02:56:01,887
and we don't need - we are supposed to be accessible to all.

1699
02:56:01,887 --> 02:56:10,563
and the safety of this and I mean - I will stop repeating myself after this statement,

1700
02:56:10,563 --> 02:56:17,837
but it is ludicrous that we walk through a tube to get into this room.

1701
02:56:17,837 --> 02:56:26,237
I realize that architecturally we love it, sure. But, it is still ludicrous in

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02:56:26,645 --> 02:56:36,245
today's day and age for safety of everybody in here that we walk through a tube.

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02:56:40,459 --> 02:56:48,651
you are welcome to disagree! And I will still talk to you. (laughter) so, anyway - I do

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02:56:48,651 --> 02:56:56,250
think that it is important that we stay on schedule. Accepting here is that there is

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02:56:56,250 --> 02:57:03,632
a practical logistics to getting started and the thing that is the priority here and

1706
02:57:03,632 --> 02:57:09,205
then just keep the ball moving. Just keep the ball moving. Okay.

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02:57:09,205 --> 02:57:15,144
now, the care for all of our employees and access for all of our residents very much

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02:57:15,144 --> 02:57:21,744
mtters. >>trustee eder: you are looking for more direction on this

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02:57:27,323 --> 02:57:31,927
additional alternative nmber one the real-time crime center buildout.

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02:57:31,927 --> 02:57:35,264
are you looking for direction on that tonight as a part of this item?

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02:57:35,264 --> 02:57:43,664
consider this for later? Okay, just wanted to check before we take a look.

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02:57:45,441 --> 02:57:49,110
>>president scaman: and I'll not even mentioned the steepness of the stairs going

1713
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:59,110
down if there was an emergency. Okay, moving on. Okay - we do need a vote on

1714
02:57:59,755 --> 02:58:02,910
this and we have a motion on the table, correct? Okay.

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02:58:02,910 --> 02:58:07,491
clerk waters, please take the role. >>clerk waters: yes.

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02:58:11,567 --> 02:58:18,167
trustee enyia, yes, trustee straw, yes, trustee eder, trustee leving-jacobson, yes,

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02:58:20,243 --> 02:58:25,180
trustee taglia, yes, trustee wesley, yes and president scaman.

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02:58:25,180 --> 02:58:32,380
>>president scaman: yes. All right, thank you. Thank you all also for

1719
02:58:33,789 --> 02:58:41,589
listening on those design qualities as well. So, I entertain a motion to

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02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:49,400
approve an ordinance amending chapter 20 ("public health") of the oak park

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02:58:49,400 --> 02:58:52,410
municipal code by adopting regulations and fees for single-use bags

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02:58:52,410 --> 02:58:56,241
at retail establishments. >>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second.

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02:59:00,349 --> 02:59:06,949
>>president scaman: motion by trustee straw and second by trustee eder.

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>>speaker: thank you, good evening. So, this item is the ordinance

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02:59:12,610 --> 02:59:18,567
in front of you that is based on a recommendation from the environment and energy

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02:59:18,567 --> 02:59:23,500
commission that you received back in march and it was included with the packets and I

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02:59:23,500 --> 02:59:26,750
could go through the presentation very quickly. Just some quick background this

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02:59:26,750 --> 02:59:33,315
went into place in 2018 and aside from a brief pause in collection into thousand 20,

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02:59:33,315 --> 02:59:40,855
to it and the eec brought this up last year as a potential way to reduce single use baggies as

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02:59:40,855 --> 02:59:48,330
well to maintain revenue into the sustainability fund. And so the results that we have

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02:59:48,330 --> 02:59:52,801
seen from the bag policy that has been in place since 2018 is that there has not been a

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02:59:52,801 --> 03:00:02,801
significant decrease in the use of bags and in fact baggies now are 39% higher than the use --

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03:00:05,347 --> 03:00:12,488
start of the policy and so the eec as a proposal that was to create a policy that would try

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03:00:12,488 --> 03:00:19,600
to do both, reduce the single use plastic bag use as well as maintain revenue.

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03:00:19,600 --> 03:00:23,980
ordinance in front of you reflects that proposal that we increase the bag fee by five

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03:00:23,980 --> 03:00:32,980
cents per year for the next three years until it reaches a cap of $0.29 in 2029.

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03:00:42,518 --> 03:00:50,492
ad with the proposed increases we see a reduction in use of the first year of 50% and still

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03:00:50,492 --> 03:00:57,660
maintain the revenue that we see today into the sustainability fund and in the

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03:00:57,660 --> 03:01:02,137
second year that can be as much as a 65% reduction in the third year and subsequent years as

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much as a 75% reduction in the still maintaining the same e revenue.

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03:01:08,143 --> 03:01:14,683
that we have made to the ordinance to put this in place, we added a definition for small

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03:01:14,683 --> 03:01:21,757
retail establishments that allows us to apply the plastic bag ban while maintaining fees

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03:01:21,757 --> 03:01:29,557
just on the larger retailers. We added a five cent increase annually until 2029.

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03:01:31,100 --> 03:01:39,500
and we did add a requirement for signage at the retail establishments where this

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03:01:40,409 --> 03:01:44,312
applies and this is consistent with other jurisdictions that have similar fees.

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03:01:44,312 --> 03:01:49,351
and then we created the ban are plastic bags as well as requirements for the content of

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03:01:49,351 --> 03:01:54,756
the paper bags and added the stipulation that the bags should have handles on the

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03:01:54,756 --> 03:02:00,610
recommendation of one of the commissions that we spoke to. This also, this 40% recycled

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03:02:00,610 --> 03:02:10,610
content is also consistent with other ordinances that have a plastic bag ban a fee on paper

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03:02:11,473 --> 03:02:14,276
bags. So, in the lead up to bringing this ordinance to you, we did a

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significant amount of community input and we did do some survey at the general public and the

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03:02:18,681 --> 03:02:22,884
eec put together a survey in 2025 and we have added a few events asking a very civil

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03:02:22,884 --> 03:02:31,694
question, yes or no supporting te plastic bag scaman seven and we have gotten overwhelming

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03:02:31,694 --> 03:02:34,296
at these events support for the ban. We spoke to the businesses and

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03:02:34,296 --> 03:02:39,301
all 17 of the businesses to whom the fee currently applies and give them opportunities for

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input. We heard no significant pushback from those businesses

1757
03:02:44,139 --> 03:02:50,513
and we met with the business association council and also got input from the community

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03:02:50,513 --> 03:02:54,183
relations commission, disability access, aging in communities and the farmers

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03:02:54,183 --> 03:02:59,476
market which all informed our approach and the ordinance. So, if passed tonight, the next

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step so that we will work with a designer to create a campaign that will help to get more

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03:03:06,549 --> 03:03:09,886
interest and excitement in the community for reducing some of those bag uses ad reusable

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03:03:09,886 --> 03:03:12,556
bags. It will create reminders and one of the things that we learn

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03:03:12,556 --> 03:03:17,493
is that one of the reasons people use the disposable bags is that they have forgotten the

1764
03:03:17,493 --> 03:03:24,901
reusable bags and things that people can use as reminders and create new tote bags that we

1765
03:03:24,901 --> 03:03:28,571
will give away for free as we currently do and we will announce the upcoming changes

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03:03:28,571 --> 03:03:35,712
in the village messaging that we have and we will work with the signage requirements and

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03:03:35,712 --> 03:03:40,717
help them to meet those requirements and we will consider temporarily expanding

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03:03:40,717 --> 03:03:43,653
places where people can come get the free tte bags and have more of a 24 hour access then

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03:03:43,653 --> 03:03:49,258
currently exists in village hall. And then in 2027, once this is

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03:03:49,258 --> 03:03:53,663
in place, we will increase our messaging around it so people know that the fee has increased

1771
03:03:53,663 --> 03:03:59,200
and we also have taken another suggestion from the commissions to create limited-edition tote

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03:03:59,200 --> 03:04:08,411
bags to get some excitement to help also promote other things like age awareness and earth

1773
03:04:08,411 --> 03:04:11,130
months and pride and other events and activities in the village.

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and that is it. I will take any questions. >>president scaman: okay.

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03:04:16,686 --> 03:04:21,486
derek? >>trustee eder: I'll be brief. Thank you.

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03:04:22,158 --> 03:04:28,310
I know it is late. I appreciate all the work that you've done and staff have done

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03:04:28,310 --> 03:04:30,366
and the eec and I know that this was the proposal that eec is working on.

1778
03:04:30,366 --> 03:04:35,371
and I wish that they did not meet on tuesdays, I am always busier tuesdays because I'm

1779
03:04:35,371 --> 03:04:38,775
here. And if you go back a couple slides, we are charging a fee

1780
03:04:38,775 --> 03:04:45,375
for paper bags, as well. Why? >>lindsay: it occurs to all

1781
03:04:49,850 --> 03:04:58,850
retail bags and yes plastic is not biodegradable and it stays in the environment and

1782
03:04:59,329 --> 03:05:02,932
paperbacks also have an environmental impact and so it applies across the board for

1783
03:05:02,932 --> 03:05:08,271
all single use bags. >>trustee eder: but like glass, right?

1784
03:05:08,271 --> 03:05:13,943
much less - >>lindsay: depends on how you look at it, it is a reusable,

1785
03:05:13,943 --> 03:05:23,543
but it is not a single impact, it is generally considered preferable just because of it

1786
03:05:27,756 --> 03:05:32,795
does not have the consistent litter aspect, but it is not a zero environmental impact.

1787
03:05:32,795 --> 03:05:35,632
>>trustee eder: and we are going for zero. >>lindsay: well, you ask for

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03:05:35,632 --> 03:05:39,768
the justification of why - >>trustee eder: okay. I guess the second question is

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03:05:39,768 --> 03:05:44,306
if - they make biodegradable bags and we use them in our compost bins and that is

1790
03:05:44,306 --> 03:05:51,780
something like - they sort of biodegrade by like 2 and a half years is what some of these

1791
03:05:51,780 --> 03:05:54,584
are. Those also would have a fee associated with them if I tried

1792
03:05:54,584 --> 03:06:02,580
to switch from I like straight up plastic to a biodegradable bag, same fee, correct?

1793
03:06:02,580 --> 03:06:04,761
>>lindsay: correct. The fee applies to all single use bags.

1794
03:06:04,761 --> 03:06:10,633
so, even if it is a powder gettable compostable plastic bag, the fee would apply.

1795
03:06:10,633 --> 03:06:17,440
now, there are jrisdictions that have you know as we have said the content has to be 40%

1796
03:06:17,440 --> 03:06:24,614
recycled materials and there are some jurisdictions that allow for it to be a

1797
03:06:24,614 --> 03:06:29,151
compostable plastic and the fee would still apply, but it would not be a and, necessarily if we

1798
03:06:29,151 --> 03:06:36,292
wanted to go that route, but that is not what we have. >>trustee eder: when I first

1799
03:06:36,292 --> 03:06:42,799
great, I support this and how will we get this to dick and people are always going to

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forget their bags. It is just always going to happen.

1801
03:06:45,869 --> 03:06:52,842
is there a way that we can adjust this so that I think people you know using paper

1802
03:06:52,842 --> 03:06:56,446
bags is a fine alternative and using compostable bags is a fine alternative and I we can

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03:06:56,446 --> 03:07:03,319
get - and I will - I just looked on amazon, you can purchase biodegradable bags and

1804
03:07:03,319 --> 03:07:06,856
it is like eight cents per bag and that is on amazon and I'm sure that you can get cheaper

1805
03:07:06,856 --> 03:07:13,262
than that and is there a way that we can maybe rewrite this so that we can actually get and

1806
03:07:13,262 --> 03:07:18,535
encouraged as opposed to - I'm just worried about great - money is coming in and then

1807
03:07:18,535 --> 03:07:24,406
2030 rolls aound and then all of a sudden like people are not going to want to pull the

1808
03:07:24,406 --> 03:07:29,279
trigger on the band for the money reasons and then also because there will be backlash

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03:07:29,279 --> 03:07:39,279
because people get upset about it and I have seen the bags backfire like in the city of

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03:07:40,289 --> 03:07:44,227
chicago and is there something that can get us in front of that?

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03:07:44,227 --> 03:07:48,164
>>lindsay: one of the things that we are written into this to encourage that sticky

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03:07:48,164 --> 03:07:53,703
behavior change is the three yar ramp up fee. That gives an opportunity for a

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03:07:53,703 --> 03:08:00,443
little bit more of a pain point every year as people get used to it and it also gives us

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03:08:00,443 --> 03:08:06,482
three years to do the education and outreach and communication and help make tat behavior

1815
03:08:06,482 --> 03:08:12,121
change step. And the combination of the fee plus the ban is something that

1816
03:08:12,121 --> 03:08:16,960
is used in a lot of jurisdictions around the country and has had beneficial

1817
03:08:16,960 --> 03:08:23,399
impact. Because, there is still an option if you forget your bag

1818
03:08:23,399 --> 03:08:31,741
that is the paper. >>trustee eder: and you are still paying the fee for it.

1819
03:08:31,741 --> 03:08:34,611
okay. >>lindsay: if you want to direct us to also add that

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03:08:34,611 --> 03:08:39,882
compostable plastic would be allowable, that is something that other jurisdictions have

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03:08:39,882 --> 03:08:46,220
included that we did not. >>trustee eder: I honestly think I do.

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03:08:46,220 --> 03:08:49,626
I'm curious what my colleagues then, but I think that we should give people an easy path

1823
03:08:49,626 --> 03:08:54,430
to do the right thing and outright ban may backfire if we do not offer that pathway.

1824
03:08:54,430 --> 03:08:59,369
and I'm curious what my colleagues think about that. But, I am interested in

1825
03:08:59,369 --> 03:09:03,569
pursuing that. More work for you. (chuckle).

1826
03:09:09,379 --> 03:09:16,786
>>president scaman: is there interest in at least - now, are you asking - are you asking to

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03:09:16,786 --> 03:09:24,126
table this agenda item two. >>trustee eder: I would ask for staff 's recommendation on what

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you need to accomplish this? Would you like to take it back? Or what is -

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>>president scaman: approve tis and come back later. >>trustee eder: I am open to

1830
03:09:33,336 --> 03:09:40,536
your suggestion. >>village manager: if the only change is to allow compostable

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03:09:41,777 --> 03:09:48,952
plastic bags in addition to paper bags once the ban goes ito effect for the same fee as

1832
03:09:48,952 --> 03:09:58,428
the paper bag, I think that we can make that as a floor amendment prior to his

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03:09:58,428 --> 03:10:01,697
execution. >>president scaman: of course. I was just asking if there is

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03:10:01,697 --> 03:10:09,372
actual resource -- research - >>trustee eder: it sounds like we have enough examples to

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03:10:09,372 --> 03:10:13,142
follow that we could - >>lindsay: I don't know off the top of my head which

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03:10:13,142 --> 03:10:16,512
municipalities there are that include this as an option, because it was not something

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03:10:16,512 --> 03:10:22,719
that we included. Remember seeing it, but I do not have that like at my

1838
03:10:22,719 --> 03:10:27,991
fingertips. Eder: I want to get it right and if it takes some time to

1839
03:10:27,991 --> 03:10:37,320
come back I am okay with that. >>president scaman: it does not change the immediate action.

1840
03:10:37,320 --> 03:10:39,869
like for the next year. >>trustee eder: sure, yes. Absolutely.

1841
03:10:39,869 --> 03:10:48,269
and I'm fine - I am good with things up to the outright ban.

1842
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three years. >>president scaman: okay. And how do others feel?

1843
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anybody else want to chime in? >>trustee wesley: I am a no on this.

1844
03:11:03,626 --> 03:11:08,164
before I say that, what are we trying to do with this? I would try to raise revenue?

1845
03:11:08,164 --> 03:11:13,690
are we trying to prevent certain types of bags? We trying to save the

1846
03:11:13,690 --> 03:11:16,706
evironment? What is our northstar? >>lindsay: yes.

1847
03:11:16,706 --> 03:11:23,913
and that is the situation that we have found ourselves in with the fee that has been in place

1848
03:11:23,913 --> 03:11:29,853
is that it has been successful raising revenue and not particularly being successful

1849
03:11:29,853 --> 03:11:37,393
in decreasing plastic bag use or single use bag use. Answer based on the research

1850
03:11:37,393 --> 03:11:41,397
that we have done on other communities that have successfully reduced single use

1851
03:11:41,397 --> 03:11:47,804
bag use and with the idea that we have gotten used to having this revenue source and we

1852
03:11:47,804 --> 03:11:57,804
would like to keep it, we have determined that this is a potential path to do both

1853
03:12:02,552 --> 03:12:05,388
things. >>trustee wesley: we are reducing single use bag use for

1854
03:12:05,388 --> 03:12:09,625
what purpose? >>lindsay: in order to reduce plastic use and in order to

1855
03:12:09,625 --> 03:12:13,563
reduce waste and in order to reduce paper and in order to reduce the environmental impact

1856
03:12:13,563 --> 03:12:16,980
of the single-use bags. >>trustee wesley: got it. Okay.

1857
03:12:16,980 --> 03:12:22,505
and so the reason I want to get specific around that is because earlier point about the

1858
03:12:22,505 --> 03:12:24,941
conversation about what is better, plastic or paper, right?

1859
03:12:24,941 --> 03:12:34,317
it takes several more uses of reuses of paper to offset the environmental impact of one

1860
03:12:34,317 --> 03:12:40,456
plastic bag and it takes an order of magnitude more reuses of a canvas bag to offset the

1861
03:12:40,456 --> 03:12:48,631
environmental impact of a plastic bag. And it's so if we are trying to

1862
03:12:48,631 --> 03:12:57,631
offset environmental impact, we are ding it backwards. And I do think that people will

1863
03:12:58,141 --> 03:13:07,750
use the bags, the hundred 50 times or whatever it is that it takes to offset the one plastic

1864
03:13:07,750 --> 03:13:15,157
bag eventually. And I think that is a long kind of road before they get there.

1865
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and I am all in favor of recycling and preventing single use of bags and pretty much

1866
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anything, right? We dumped too much stuff in landfills and I would like to

1867
03:13:29,572 --> 03:13:32,708
stop that. However, there is the alternative and the other side

1868
03:13:32,708 --> 03:13:39,215
of this coin is that to produce those canvas bags is a huge evironmental impact because if

1869
03:13:39,215 --> 03:13:44,787
they are cotton, anyway because there is just a lot that goes into that.

1870
03:13:44,787 --> 03:13:52,587
and then for paper - same thing. And if this is merely revenue -

1871
03:13:53,997 --> 03:13:58,670
just to be clear I'm not voting for increasing the amount regardless, because even though

1872
03:13:58,670 --> 03:14:04,674
it is only a nickel - it feels like it I not the right time to increase costs for people

1873
03:14:04,674 --> 03:14:13,674
shopping for food. And I look at the national scene which I hardly ever do

1874
03:14:16,886 --> 03:14:20,756
when we are talking about items here and I look at the national scene and I see a president

1875
03:14:20,756 --> 03:14:24,494
that is struggling because he did not reduce the price of food in this country for the

1876
03:14:24,494 --> 03:14:28,970
last two years and he said he would overnight. And when I think about adding

1877
03:14:28,970 --> 03:14:31,901
even a nickel to a plastic bag, it is not so much the cost, but the signal and it signals that

1878
03:14:31,901 --> 03:14:35,371
we are told after the struggles of the people on the street and I would like to not send that

1879
03:14:35,371 --> 03:14:39,442
message and I will not vote for that message. Maybe in the future where

1880
03:14:39,442 --> 03:14:46,115
inflation has decreased again towards what it used to be before the pandemic, then that

1881
03:14:46,115 --> 03:14:49,510
would be something that would be something that I would consider.

1882
03:14:49,510 --> 03:14:53,723
but, right now to me it just feels like not a message that I would personally want to stand

1883
03:14:53,723 --> 03:15:02,123
and the environmental impact of this does not motivate me to do it either.

1884
03:15:03,800 --> 03:15:10,606
because, the incentives are closer to the plastic bag then it does with the paper and the

1885
03:15:10,606 --> 03:15:13,610
canvas. So, that is where I am on it. >>lindsay: I would like to

1886
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respond just to the impact of the reusable bags. That is something that is

1887
03:15:21,120 --> 03:15:24,157
absolutely true. The environmental benefit of a reusable bag is only so much as

1888
03:15:24,157 --> 03:15:30,290
it is offsetting the plastic bags and there is a certain number that needs to be offset

1889
03:15:30,290 --> 03:15:33,433
for for it to be better. If you are using reusable bags as if they are disposable, then

1890
03:15:33,433 --> 03:15:37,570
it is far worse then reusing a plastic bag. And that is something that we

1891
03:15:37,570 --> 03:15:41,107
have had a lot of conversations about in my office and what the right approach is for a totebag

1892
03:15:41,107 --> 03:15:45,111
that we are providing and giving out, because we do not want to create a situation

1893
03:15:45,111 --> 03:15:49,916
where people are using them as if they are disposable because we are giving them away for

1894
03:15:49,916 --> 03:15:52,585
free. And that is something that we are trying to balance wth

1895
03:15:52,585 --> 03:15:57,891
making them available to people who you know would rather not pay the fee or the fee is

1896
03:15:57,891 --> 03:16:07,891
onerous to them, have an option that is free to them while also not creating an issue that

1897
03:16:08,467 --> 03:16:12,405
actually makes the environmental issue worse. That is something that we are

1898
03:16:12,405 --> 03:16:15,408
taking into consideration as we are doing this. And I also just will highlight

1899
03:16:15,408 --> 03:16:21,147
the one thing that we are not changing in the ordinance is the exemption for people who

1900
03:16:21,147 --> 03:16:24,684
are using snap benefits or other food assistance programs, they are exempted from the fee

1901
03:16:24,684 --> 03:16:28,621
and I know that that does not capture everyone for whom the cost of groceries is a burden.

1902
03:16:28,621 --> 03:16:32,491
but, that is something that we are continuing to think about in our outreach and the way

1903
03:16:32,491 --> 03:16:39,910
that we are working with their businesses. >>trustee wesley: I appreciate

1904
03:16:41,767 --> 03:16:47,600
you adding the additional contact, because I do largely agree that over the course of I

1905
03:16:47,600 --> 03:16:51,311
guess probably years, the more people we get on reusable bags, the better it is even if it

1906
03:16:51,311 --> 03:16:59,111
takes you know 150 or 30 times, whatever the number is to recoup that environmental

1907
03:16:59,285 --> 03:17:02,521
impact, because if you are using it, then as long as the not fall apart before that,

1908
03:17:02,521 --> 03:17:08,228
then we do eventually realized that environmental impact. And I do appreciate that

1909
03:17:08,228 --> 03:17:12,865
contact and I definitely agree that that is the forward motion.

1910
03:17:12,865 --> 03:17:19,806
I just think because of the length of time that it takes to recoup that in the current

1911
03:17:19,806 --> 03:17:27,600
economic situations and just macroeconomic situations currently that it is too much

1912
03:17:27,614 --> 03:17:36,355
of a long-range perspective for me to justify the near-term impact, even the perception of

1913
03:17:36,355 --> 03:17:39,920
the near-term impact is really what it is. Because, again it is a nickel

1914
03:17:39,920 --> 03:17:44,631
and over the course of the year, it amounts to $30 or $40 for some people maybe if they

1915
03:17:44,631 --> 03:17:48,668
are using them all the time. I don't know what the number is, but it is the perception

1916
03:17:48,668 --> 03:17:55,708
that we don't care that people are struggling and after some people even a nickel they feel

1917
03:17:55,708 --> 03:18:03,983
like too much. And honestly I would rather raise the levy then raise this

1918
03:18:03,983 --> 03:18:11,783
tax and nickel. >>trustee straw: I think cory raises an excellent point on

1919
03:18:17,620 --> 03:18:25,462
the increasing the fee in this moment. I think that one of the things

1920
03:18:25,672 --> 03:18:32,110
that you talk about is working with retailers on signage requirements and I think

1921
03:18:32,110 --> 03:18:42,110
including in that signage, hw free tote bags are available so that we can be making clear to

1922
03:18:46,692 --> 03:18:55,768
folks like we have a free alternative for you that will offset you know where you won't

1923
03:18:55,768 --> 03:19:00,239
have to pay this bag fee ever again. Because we will provide you

1924
03:19:00,239 --> 03:19:09,839
with the tote bags that you will use. I think that if we make sure to

1925
03:19:11,818 --> 03:19:19,180
be very aggressive about communicating that particularly in places where those shoppers

1926
03:19:22,562 --> 03:19:32,562
will see it, that is one way to address it. I also - I would like to adopt

1927
03:19:34,730 --> 03:19:42,682
this as we have it today I think that I would like to sort of see a little bit more

1928
03:19:42,682 --> 03:19:52,282
development around the idea of compostable plastic bags being an option in the same vein as

1929
03:19:58,698 --> 03:20:05,438
the paper bags when the complete ban comes into effect, because I don't know as we sit

1930
03:20:05,438 --> 03:20:14,438
here today sort of what the environmental impact of those two options like how they

1931
03:20:19,318 --> 03:20:23,389
compare. Because, certainly the paper bags have a higher cost to

1932
03:20:23,389 --> 03:20:31,189
environmental cost to produce and transport and on the flipside, they biodegrade and

1933
03:20:34,934 --> 03:20:44,210
they do not create the litter and I often use those paper bags in my house as compostable

1934
03:20:44,210 --> 03:20:52,151
bags for our compost bin. And obviously the compostable bags also would serve that

1935
03:20:52,151 --> 03:20:59,351
purpose. I don't know how paper bags vs. The plastic compostable bags

1936
03:21:02,695 --> 03:21:12,695
compare in how they break down and what the environmental cost of manufacturing r. I was not

1937
03:21:14,340 --> 03:21:20,479
prepared for that research tonight and obviously that was not something that we are

1938
03:21:20,479 --> 03:21:28,879
considering coming in. Worth us talking about sometime between now and 2030 and we can

1939
03:21:35,603 --> 03:21:43,810
adjust this. I may suggest is a memo that t addresses the questions that we

1940
03:21:43,810 --> 03:21:52,810
have heard tonight about composting and somebody can in response to that memo make a

1941
03:21:53,220 --> 03:22:02,820
motion and a second to be on a future agenda. >>trustee eer: and if I can

1942
03:22:03,697 --> 03:22:07,168
just add the behavior change that I'm most interested in is not every resident in the

1943
03:22:07,168 --> 03:22:17,168
village of oak park, it is if we can see the environmental impact of using paper bags or

1944
03:22:18,111 --> 03:22:23,116
compostable bags is way better which I assume it is, then comes the time for the ban if

1945
03:22:23,116 --> 03:22:27,921
they just switch to those, we don't have to make any educational campaign.

1946
03:22:27,921 --> 03:22:33,590
it is just what is there. That is the lever that I want to make sure we are pulling the

1947
03:22:33,590 --> 03:22:39,266
right one to make sure that the businesses make the right choice and then we all benefit

1948
03:22:39,266 --> 03:22:41,802
from that coice. That is where I want to go but I agree.

1949
03:22:41,802 --> 03:22:50,100
the memo idea sounds great. I want to have a fully informed decision and I am okay with

1950
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:56,610
voting on this as is tonight and bringing the conversation back.

1951
03:22:57,250 --> 03:23:01,288
>>trustee enyia: you probably want to talk to the businesses that are still using plastic,

1952
03:23:01,288 --> 03:23:06,727
because if you can figure out why they don't want t switch, then we will have the data we

1953
03:23:06,727 --> 03:23:15,235
need to get everyone else on board, because I feel like there are tons of people who

1954
03:23:15,235 --> 03:23:24,835
want to move away from the bags, but when the source is giving you the bags -

1955
03:23:27,748 --> 03:23:30,384
>>trustee wesley: really quick. I appreciate that comment, derek.

1956
03:23:30,384 --> 03:23:35,522
and what I would say to that is if our goal is to the northstar goals which is to we want

1957
03:23:35,522 --> 03:23:39,660
plastic bags because paper is biodegradable even though we know the initial construction

1958
03:23:39,660 --> 03:23:49,260
cost is multiples of a plastic bag, but we think the biodegradable part is what we

1959
03:23:57,545 --> 03:24:04,618
want to see then I would be perfectly fine if that is the northstar that we are pursuing.

1960
03:24:04,618 --> 03:24:09,757
I just don't want to increase fees and I want to be clear on what we are trying to do and

1961
03:24:09,757 --> 03:24:14,610
then move the policy in the direction of what we are trying to accomplish.

1962
03:24:14,610 --> 03:24:21,502
>>trustee eder: a lot of things going in that memo. >>president scaman: all right.

1963
03:24:21,502 --> 03:24:24,104
okay. We still have one more agenda item.

1964
03:24:24,104 --> 03:24:32,504
all of the comments that have been made tonight and do you have anything?

1965
03:24:37,840 --> 03:24:40,654
>>trustee taglia: the cost of the paper bag, the bags are paid for by the stores, right?

1966
03:24:40,654 --> 03:24:47,795
the nickel they get does not cover it - so, a paper bag cost a lot more.

1967
03:24:47,795 --> 03:24:54,100
you're putting that burden on the stores. >>lindsay: that is something

1968
03:24:54,100 --> 03:25:04,100
that we heard from the business groups that we spoke to and something that we can consider

1969
03:25:05,120 --> 03:25:10,550
boat ban like what kind of and assistance can we provide or programs can we put to place

1970
03:25:10,550 --> 03:25:15,422
that help alleviate that cost for businesses. >>trustee taglia: whatever gets

1971
03:25:15,422 --> 03:25:19,893
decided you don't understand the business to a neighboring community that does not charge

1972
03:25:19,893 --> 03:25:28,293
you know zero and then it becomes more attractive. I appreciate the desire to

1973
03:25:32,339 --> 03:25:36,643
understand what the potential outcomes could be at this stage because there is a lot of them

1974
03:25:36,643 --> 03:25:42,850
and they are complex, much like zoning, actually - >>president scaman: stop

1975
03:25:42,850 --> 03:25:49,450
mentioning that at this hour, please! Good point again in that

1976
03:25:50,624 --> 03:25:59,533
bringing this back to c4 and I think that we have got more of our neighboring communities to

1977
03:25:59,533 --> 03:26:07,140
participate and that would make all of this easier. I mean honestly - I have been

1978
03:26:07,140 --> 03:26:15,482
noting in other states that are more places where I shop that ask if I want a bag and just as

1979
03:26:15,482 --> 03:26:20,887
soon as do you want a bag, I say you know what, I don't need one, thank you.

1980
03:26:20,887 --> 03:26:29,887
thank you for asking. Granted I carry a very big purse, but - (laughter) okay -

1981
03:26:38,171 --> 03:26:44,171
so. Work on everything all at the same time, right?

1982
03:26:45,445 --> 03:26:51,318
have a motion and second on the table and I'm hearing interest in voting on it as is and memo

1983
03:26:51,318 --> 03:26:58,592
forthcoming and someone can then motion to bring it back if necessary after the memo.

1984
03:26:58,592 --> 03:27:04,592
clerk waters, please take the role. >>clerk waters: trustee eder,

1985
03:27:04,998 --> 03:27:11,598
yes, trustee transects, -- straw, trustee taglia, yes, trustee leving-jacobson, yes,

1986
03:27:20,546 --> 03:27:25,946
trustee enyia, yes, trustee wesley, no. President scaman, yes.

1987
03:27:34,361 --> 03:27:38,509
>>president scaman: okay. A motion by trustee taglia and seconded by trustee enyia to

1988
03:27:38,509 --> 03:27:40,945
discuss the establishment of a tax increment finance (tif)

1989
03:27:40,945 --> 03:27:48,145
district along roosevelt road. Motion, please. This is discussion only so we

1990
03:27:53,123 --> 03:27:56,126
can proceed. >>trustee taglia: I wrote out a little bit and it may take two

1991
03:27:56,126 --> 03:28:00,926
minutes at te most. >>trustee taglia: pass them

1992
03:28:03,167 --> 03:28:06,767
down! We need sugar. Sorry, jim.

1993
03:28:09,340 --> 03:28:16,540
it is perfectly fine. What did I get? I have to read!

1994
03:28:18,249 --> 03:28:24,249
that is not fair. Okay. >>president scaman: we have a

1995
03:28:26,223 --> 03:28:34,532
public comment, is that right? And I don't know if you have been here all night, did you

1996
03:28:34,532 --> 03:28:40,532
have any public comment this evening? >>speaker: (away from mic).

1997
03:28:46,100 --> 03:28:53,210
>>speaker: one last time. 733 s. Elmwood. We already have the motion made

1998
03:28:55,319 --> 03:29:05,319
by trustee taglia entering or. In short it is about time that the village of oak park put a

1999
03:29:05,462 --> 03:29:09,866
tif on roosevelt road. There was a note in the staff memo that there was community

2000
03:29:09,866 --> 03:29:18,576
input there with no committee input given to this item and I don't think that is quite true

2001
03:29:18,576 --> 03:29:22,413
because the community has been inputting on this for years. And that it is a good idea and

2002
03:29:22,413 --> 03:29:27,818
if you want idea how good of an idea it is, just go over to the borough inside which is put

2003
03:29:27,818 --> 03:29:32,623
together a tif for a number of years since 1997 and apparently it has done gangbusters and

2004
03:29:32,623 --> 03:29:38,296
probably the biggest the you could see is toronto read, but the increment that that created

2005
03:29:38,296 --> 03:29:48,296
now had oak park done the same, way back when - we would not be dealing with situations like in

2006
03:29:49,390 --> 03:29:55,346
boston and the resources to deal with the corner of boston and 6100 and 7100 roosevelt

2007
03:29:55,346 --> 03:30:00,851
road to get an idea of what could be done, look at what has been caused not to be done.

2008
03:30:00,851 --> 03:30:08,651
and that is why this should proceed. A friend of mine, jackie, she

2009
03:30:10,527 --> 03:30:20,527
is a resident of oak park and by far the biggest tif expert, nongovernmental or let's say

2010
03:30:21,405 --> 03:30:24,475
consultant. But, she suggests and I think this is great, you're going on

2011
03:30:24,475 --> 03:30:31,750
roosevelt road from boston to harlem. Between mabel and harlem and

2012
03:30:33,317 --> 03:30:42,917
you bring in the moore plan into the same tif. And so give that some thought

2013
03:30:43,961 --> 03:30:46,196
and get behind what they have proposed and move on from there.

2014
03:30:46,196 --> 03:30:55,196
and maybe we will see something in the future or at least in my lifetime.

2015
03:30:56,908 --> 03:30:59,843
thank you. >>president scaman: okay, you have a statement.

2016
03:30:59,843 --> 03:31:08,243
>>trustee taglia: okay, I'll just read it very quickly. I support creating a tax

2017
03:31:10,521 --> 03:31:15,593
implementing financing district for roosevelt road because I believe it is an important tool

2018
03:31:15,593 --> 03:31:18,963
for strengthening the court or in investing in the future and roosevelt road is an important

2019
03:31:18,963 --> 03:31:22,633
gateway to oak park and open to local businesses and serves our residents and neighboring

2020
03:31:22,633 --> 03:31:26,270
communities and has tremendous potential, but realizing the potential requires focus

2021
03:31:26,270 --> 03:31:33,210
long-term investment at a tif would let us invest a portion of the new property tax growth

2022
03:31:33,210 --> 03:31:35,879
generated within the district back into the roosevelt road area.

2023
03:31:35,879 --> 03:31:41,279
those funds can help improve infrastructure, support redevelopment, encourage

2024
03:31:42,419 --> 03:31:46,691
private investment and make the accord or more attractive to businesses and customers.

2025
03:31:46,691 --> 03:31:53,230
recommendations as far back as 2014 and probably before, but that is the one that I can

2026
03:31:53,230 --> 03:31:59,136
recall and craig would probably remember the other study have recommended a tif along

2027
03:31:59,136 --> 03:32:03,107
roosevelt road. But, it was never acted on. I also see this as an

2028
03:32:03,107 --> 03:32:08,507
opportunity to support targeting businesses. Economic development should not

2029
03:32:09,646 --> 03:32:12,716
simply be about bringing something new, it should be about helping the businesses

2030
03:32:12,716 --> 03:32:18,622
that have already invested in our community succeed and grow.

2031
03:32:18,622 --> 03:32:21,725
sidewalks, landscaping, storefronts and other public infrastructure can make

2032
03:32:21,725 --> 03:32:26,329
roosevelt road a more welcoming and vibrant place. A stronger roosevelt road can

2033
03:32:26,329 --> 03:32:32,803
also strengthen oak park 's overall tax based encouraging thoughtful development and

2034
03:32:32,803 --> 03:32:36,407
filling vacant and underused properties that can generate economic activity that benefits

2035
03:32:36,407 --> 03:32:44,207
the entire community for decades to come. Of course ceating a tif should

2036
03:32:45,482 --> 03:32:48,552
come with clear goals and transparency, accountability and careful oersight as to how

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03:32:48,552 --> 03:32:55,590
public dollars are spent. Tif spending has been a cause of concern in the past and a

2038
03:32:55,590 --> 03:32:57,827
tif is a tool and the success depends on how responsibly we use it.

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03:32:57,827 --> 03:33:02,766
I support a roosevelt road tif because I believe that we should invest strategically in

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03:33:02,766 --> 03:33:09,439
this important part of oak park with a thoughtful plan and responsible oversight, we can

2041
03:33:09,439 --> 03:33:13,777
support local businesses, attractive investment, improve the cord work and help

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roosevelt road reach its full potential. Thank you.

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03:33:22,953 --> 03:33:27,791
>>trustee enyia: I cannot say it any better than that. Just living in oak park for as

2044
03:33:27,791 --> 03:33:33,263
long as I have, when you look at the different corridors throughout that border of oak

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park you always wonder what more can we be doing to show a better corridor and also bring

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a sense of pride to those that live on the outsides of - right outside these corridors.

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and I consistently talk to neighbors because I live right off of the roosevelt corridor

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and that is what they continuously talk to me about. I could say the accent and

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everything, but they are always asking me, when are we going to get this?

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are we going to see something on our side of the street? All of our neighbors are

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completely fine to walk across the street and go to berlin and do their shopping or whatever,

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03:34:19,789 --> 03:34:23,826
but they wonder when it is going to come to their side of the street and knowing that

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there is a way to create a level of investment that brings back to these areas would be

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massive. Road is the poster child for reinvestment into a community

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and when you see what berwyn has done on the other side of the street in such a short

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period of time and how frequently these shops are having patrons come up and

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utilize it is huge and it is a beautiful thing to see on the weekends to see families you

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03:34:57,761 --> 03:35:01,832
know utilizing that space and is on the other side of the street where there is not too

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much happening on our side. Not saying that it cannot happen or that what is already

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there that is working - we want to add to that and I think that this gives us the best

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opportunity to do some of those things and I wholeheartedly agree with the same idea about

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stretching to the moore property and including that within that tif.

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and I think that is a tremendous idea and I think the residents would agree to it.

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but, personally it is just something that through conversations with trustee

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taglia and just in the past we have talked about this and no village manager jackson has

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brought it up, as well. I think that it is all something that we would want to

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see and careful oversight to make sure it has been done properly and we execute this

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the right way which is huge here. And I think this is where I can

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see a great opportunity for us as a village. >>trustee straw: I am in

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agreement. And mr. Donovan, when you mentioned rapping in the moore

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03:36:15,439 --> 03:36:18,708
property, I think you probably saw corey and I cuckle, because I had said that to cory

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not six hours ago. As we were discussing this. I think that it makes sense

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absolutely to wrap it up to include the moore site and I think the moore site has the

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potential to serve as an anchor for the roosevelt core door in some ways.

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I would say I think that as we do this on our southern border that we should at the same time

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be discussing a similar district on north avenue and I think that we are on both of

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our borders and on roosevelt absolutely we are seeing development and on the borough

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03:37:13,960 --> 03:37:22,639
inside outpacing development on the oak parkside and the same is becoming true of our north

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03:37:22,639 --> 03:37:31,848
avenue border where development and chicago that does have a tif district on north avenue is

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03:37:31,848 --> 03:37:40,248
outstripping development in oak park and obviously there is need for development with a

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03:37:43,493 --> 03:37:53,930
couple of buildings that are vacant and in a poor state of disrepair through fire or

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03:37:53,270 --> 03:38:01,711
neglect or otherwise. And so I am in support and I think that this is an important

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and effective tool for spurring new development and yes - >>president scaman: village

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manager jackson, anything from your standpoint? I mean my commitments would be

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similar in that and I don't to cut anyone else off and corey - but, I will say really quickly

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that north avenue and the areas of our community are also on my mind, go ahead.

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>trustee wesley: a couple things. One, I fully support tif on

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roosevelt road and the wrapping up of the moore property as long as we also include north

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avenue and I think that those have been discussed in conjunction for the entire time

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I have been paying attention to civic discourse in this village and they have both been under

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03:38:58,335 --> 03:39:08,335
invested for the entirety of I think there is - I will tie everything into zoning and I

2092
03:39:13,450 --> 03:39:18,154
will tie it to this intentionality and what I will say is that I think in the past

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the village has been intentional about establishing all of the community and the

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03:39:24,160 --> 03:39:29,432
reason for it is the investment in roosevelt road and north avenue because we have treated

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them as barriers between oak park and the city and oak park in our southern neighbors and I

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think even with the establishment of a tif and the intentionality and the

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03:39:43,846 --> 03:39:47,450
perspective on how we treat these border areas has to change in order for this to be

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successful. That is all I have. >>president scaman: okay, any

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other comment? >>trustee eder: in support and I live close to roosevelt as

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well couple blocks from my house. I think - rapping in the moore

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property makes sense. I think roosevelt and north - there is some tension in this

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and I do want to call out that there is - there is - this is going to affect if it were to

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be put in place it would affect the tax revenue from our partnering municipality and the

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schools and I think that is just something that we need to conversations with those folks

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so they know what the intentional impact would be. And also if we develop these

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areas, there is an opportunity to put up more housing on those corridors as well which means

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03:40:47,994 --> 03:40:56,302
more people and kids go to school and is so there is a virtuous cycle that can happen

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and it is all about the details about how this gets implemented.

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stage, at this hour - generally favorable, but there is obviously a deeper conversation

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that needs to be had before things really take off. >>president scaman: okay, so

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>>manager jackson: I think - understanding what we are trying to accomplish in these

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gratefully accept the challenge to do the tif study and come back with some recommendations

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and so I would just like to say thank you to trustee enyia and taglia and all of you for

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putting this on the table and giving us some direction to move on this and so we are

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excited to come back with the studies and come up with some recommendations.

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>>president saman: right. And I appreciate how you stated it, village manager jackson so

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that w can prioritize as well. Because, we have mentioned roosevelt road and I am hearing

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that as a priority, but we have also been talking about north avenue to trustee wesley 's

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point four may be even longer. And now we are finally seeing - longer than I have been in

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office there was a promise for north avenue that never came to fruition.

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but, now we are finally seeing some early seed money and schematic design in order for

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north avenue. Information that we need I think and to allow staff the

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03:42:48,181 --> 03:42:51,851
opportunity to give us all of the information with what is possible so that we can

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prioritize because with more property that has also been mentioned a lot and the need

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03:42:59,258 --> 03:43:06,666
for the tif there, there are other directions we can go from the property as well that we

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should contemplate to understand what the end goals are.

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but, staff is hearing roosevelt road, moore and north avenue pretty loudly, right?

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>>manager jackson: yes. >>president scaman: thank you. Then we do not need further

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action on that right now other than we will see that come back to us and called to board and

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clerk. Clerk waters? >>clerk waters: pass.

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>>president scaman: trustee enyia? Trustee wesley?

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wesley: pass. >>trustee straw: pass. >>trustee taglia: pass.

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>>trustee leving-jacobson: okay, so back to school time is upon us and high school goes

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back nd 97 starts tomorrow and it is a good time to remind ourselves about the importance

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of secure firearm storage and this week is actually smart week apart of the smart

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03:44:23,342 --> 03:44:27,212
campaign which is public education campaign that is a part of every town for gun

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03:44:27,212 --> 03:44:35,888
safety and it reminds parents and caregivers and neighbors if they have a firearm in their

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03:44:35,888 --> 03:44:40,693
home to securely store that meaning that it is in a container, inaccessible to

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03:44:40,693 --> 03:44:45,164
anybody other than the owner and otherwise if it is in your home or vehicle and the acronym

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03:44:45,164 --> 03:44:53,564
s, secure so that means it is securely stored, m, modeling responsible behavior and

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03:44:56,750 --> 03:44:59,779
parents and children talking about what to do if they come upon a firearm as a precaution,

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not a guarantee, a is my favorite most important is before a play date or

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revisiting a new home, maybe always ask about the presence of a firearm if they have one

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and how it is stored and r, recognizing the risk of suicide and t, tell each other,

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neighbors, friends etc. To be smart. And have a very sfe school

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year. Thank you. >>trustee eder: rest in peace

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dolly parton. >>president scaman: yes. Thank you.

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wonderful person. A musician. Entertain a motion to adjourn.

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>>speaker: moved. >>speaker: second. >>president scaman: all in

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favor? (multiple speakers)

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aye. >>president scaman: have a good evening.