1 00:00:56,719 --> 00:01:03,920 Vice Chairperson Brown, >> Commissioner Tuggate, 2 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,600 » Commissioner Eiselman, >> Commissioner Cson, Commissioner Walters 3 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Gil, >> Commissioner Mlullen, Commissioner Tatch 4 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:15,560 here, >> Commissioner Whitehead. We have quorum. 5 00:01:28,479 --> 00:01:31,799 So move. 6 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,960 » Mr. Chair, the mics are not working. 7 00:01:45,759 --> 00:01:51,000 I can find. Ah, there we are. 8 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,079 Love the hum. 9 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:10,239 Am I the only one with the feedback? Moving on to approval of the We approved 10 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:14,160 the agenda. Got that done. Approval of the minutes from the last 11 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,920 meeting. So move 12 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:19,560 » second. >> Are there any corrections? 13 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:28,680 » Be there. No corrections. All in favor? >> I 14 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,680 » I have it. 15 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:39,160 Moving on to item 4 A planning commission. 16 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:47,120 Oh, first I want to thank everybody for giving me the larger print. I really 17 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:51,560 appreciate that. That facilitated me answering stuff much more quickly. 18 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:09,200 I was trying to wait for the mayor to have a seat. 19 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:12,319 Moving on to communication and correspondence. 20 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,680 A extension of the site plan approval. 21 00:03:24,879 --> 00:03:29,959 Welcome, Madam Mayor. >> Thank you. 22 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,879 » Excuse me. 5A extension of site plan approval. 23 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:51,680 conversion of of offices to mixuse development 24 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:55,519 7 excuse me 21790 Koolage Highway. Want to take us through that? 25 00:03:53,120 --> 00:04:00,720 » Yes, thank you. Uh this is a request to extend the site plan approval for the 26 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:06,080 conversion of the office building into a mixed use of residential and office 27 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:11,439 building. The site plan approval is set to expire today. The applicant indicated 28 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:18,239 that he has been awaiting potential awards from Meshda and Oakland County. 29 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:24,240 They have a bank commitment up to 70% of the loan to value or loan to cost. We 30 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:32,000 approved the extension of the site plan for an additional 12 months. The 31 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:35,440 extension will expire on March 7, 2027, a year from today. 32 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,000 one year from today. >> Yes. 33 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:43,840 » And you're looking for an approval from us. 34 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:49,440 » Uh we approved it just approved. >> No action required from Mr. Chair, 35 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:55,759 » Madame Mayor. >> Um the bank is giving them 70% of the 36 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:02,080 loan to cost. >> Yes. It's either loan to cost or loan to 37 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:06,639 value. And uh the other 30% is supposed to come from the grants. 38 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:12,320 » That's what he's hoping for. Yes. But he he also have the money like it depends 39 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:14,800 on how much he receive grants. >> So he will cover the rest. 40 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:19,800 » Oh >> yes. 41 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,800 » Thank you. Thank 42 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,520 » So you said that's been approved, correct? 43 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,479 » Yes. >> So you need no action from us? 44 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:37,520 » No. Moving on to 6A, public hearing to 45 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:48,199 consider the proposed special land use. You submitted by PEA Group 46 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:48,199 on behalf of YA Beth. You 47 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,520 excuse me, pronounce it for me. 48 00:05:52,880 --> 00:06:00,120 » Yehuda. >> Yehuda. 49 00:05:55,199 --> 00:06:00,120 Thank you. Thank folks 50 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:14,039 you on scope school at 14400 West 10M Road. 51 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:21,199 » Yeah, thank you. This is a special land use request for a proposed addition to 52 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:28,319 the Yeshiva Beth Yehuda School for Girls. The school historic historically 53 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:33,840 served as a preschool uh and high school for girls. With the preschool program 54 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:39,039 relocated to the new building, the applicant proposes to maintain the 55 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:44,720 existing high school and construct a gymnasium. As indicated in the staff 56 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:49,919 report, the project meets the zoning ordinance requirements with conditions. 57 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:55,680 The special land use and site plan approval are contingent upon receiving 58 00:06:52,960 --> 00:07:02,080 variances from the zoning board of appeals for the north and west setback 59 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:07,599 setbacks and off streetet parking spaces. We recommend approval of the 60 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:15,199 special land use and site plan subject to the 11 conditions. Uh Amy Akerman um 61 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:18,720 with PR group is available to answer any questions you may have. 62 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:36,479 Good afternoon. There you go. My name is Amy Aman. I'm from PA Group and I'm 63 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,520 happy to answer any questions. Do you Would you like me to give you a quick 64 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,800 rundown after that was a pretty good assessment of of what's going on? 65 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,240 » I got your name, but I need your address. 66 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,840 » Oh, my address. 1849 uh Pondrun, Auburn Hills. 67 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,720 » Thank you. >> Are there any questions? You want to 68 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,919 give us a rundown? >> Sure, I'd love to. Thank you. We 69 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:00,639 appreciate the opportunity to present our project. The school's been open for 70 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,240 over 10 years. As Salam mentioned, um it was been it was used as a high school 71 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:09,440 and a preschool. It's now going to just service high school uh females. 72 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:14,080 The larger recreation that's being proposed tonight is to accommodate uh 73 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:17,039 high school use. The addition to the building is a 74 00:08:15,599 --> 00:08:21,039 traditional ceiling, a more of a traditional ceiling height, a little 75 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:25,360 higher and a little bit bigger uh to accommodate the high school students. 76 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:31,199 Uh the gym will be used during the school day for uh recreation and for uh 77 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:36,479 anticipated athlet no anticipated athletic competitions will be at the 78 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:40,959 gym. So no evening or or use like that. Architecturally and aesthetically, it 79 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:44,560 will match the school as it exists. So, it'll be the same color, the same 80 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:49,360 materials. Um, we chose to locate the gym on the 81 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:53,839 rear of the school because it made the most sense with the existing school and 82 00:08:52,160 --> 00:09:00,560 it'll visually won't impact 10 mile road. 83 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:06,279 Uh, the height of the gym meets the code and any roof equipment will be screened 84 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,279 per the code. 85 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,279 the that's a quick overview of any addition of the addition. If you have 86 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,279 any other questions, I'm happy to answer them. 87 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,120 » Um, >> mayor, 88 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:27,600 » thank you. Um, uh, is it it's not blocking Emanuel or any entrance to 89 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:32,399 Emanuel? >> No, it will not. So, it's going to 90 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:34,240 parallel that that ingress road that comes in from there 91 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:38,640 » from 10 mile. >> Correct. Okay. And it's a little f 92 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:43,920 That's a playground now and it will be a building. 93 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:50,080 » Well, yeah. So, they have that outdoor patio area, but the the this is proposed 94 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:54,399 on the back of the building. So, we're not eliminating any parking. The only 95 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:59,120 area that it's taking that's going to take up right now is the circulation 96 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:02,320 that that circulation that comes around for drop off. That's going to get a 97 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,920 shortened a little bit, but other than that, that's the only change that really 98 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,120 is is occurring. So, we're not losing any parking. We're not changing the 99 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,880 circulation on site. Everything will stay the same, and we're allowing fire 100 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:18,160 access to the north. >> So, the drop off will still be there. 101 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:22,640 » Correct. The drop off will still exist. Mr. Chair, 102 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,560 I have a comment and maybe a question. So, my comment is I just want to make 103 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:30,800 sure I understand the where the building is going to go exactly. So, it's going 104 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:37,120 to be the front Part of the frontage will be on church, right? No. 105 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:42,720 » Yeah. Well, I guess so. Looking at the building from from 10mi road, the west 106 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:44,240 the far west side of the building where that road comes up. 107 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,360 » Okay. >> The building will be off the back of 108 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,880 that. So, it you'll you'll Yes. You'll see it sort of fronts 10 Mile Road, but 109 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,760 it's quite a ways away from 10 Mile Road. 110 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,920 » Just a little >> or from church, excuse me. 111 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,839 » Gotcha. >> Yeah. 112 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:05,279 » Oh, yeah. I can I do I did bring a couple graphics if you want to. So, is 113 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:10,079 it showing somewhere to me? >> Oh, okay. 114 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:14,399 » There. Oh, thank you so much. So, the building proposed addition is right 115 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:17,920 here. If you can see my cursor moving. >> Yeah. So, none of that was building 116 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:22,079 before. >> Correct. 117 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,800 It was some It was green space and a little bit of drive lane 118 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:34,640 and to the to the west here's that because that's offsite. So that drive 119 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,000 that driveway is off the west here. So we're not impacting that at all. 120 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:43,040 » Quite a bit. Quite a bit. Yeah. >> Yeah. 121 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,839 » Okay. And there's a little oval thing in the middle of the parking lot that 122 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:50,240 you're rellandscaping. >> Correct. So yeah, we that has to shorten 123 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:54,160 a little bit. Not too much. We're not going to change that too much, but we 124 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:58,839 will Yeah, we'll we're going to clean that up and put some new landscaping in 125 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:58,839 it. 126 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:09,120 » Any other questions? >> Um, one for the staff. It's like less 127 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:14,959 parking than a high school requires, but it works out okay. Can you explain that? 128 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:20,399 Yes, it's with the parking because it's reduced the number of the students. Uh 129 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:24,000 it will work out but they still have to get a variance from the zoning board of 130 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:26,959 appeals. >> And why will it work out? Because the 131 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:30,800 students get dropped off and they don't park cars there. 132 00:12:28,079 --> 00:12:37,040 » Because we have now less student than they used to have before. It used to be 133 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:42,720 a high school and preschool and now it's going to be only high school uh for 134 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:47,200 girls students and it's the same number of classrooms. They're not increasing 135 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:52,000 the number of classrooms. >> So the real benefit is because preschool 136 00:12:50,079 --> 00:12:57,040 the teacher to student ratio is quite high and so all the teachers that would 137 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,560 drive for the preschool are no longer going to be parking here. So there's 138 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:06,399 probably where the biggest change will be. So, it actually reduces the use of 139 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:12,320 cars that will be on there. >> Any other questions before I open the 140 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:18,639 public hearing? I do need to do that. Okay. Like to open 141 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:26,079 the public hearing. If there's anyone who would like to speak 142 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:29,720 in favor of or oppose to, you have a fivem minute limit. 143 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:41,120 major issue. >> Okay. 144 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:44,600 I don't see any hands or bodies or anyone moving. 145 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:53,079 So that may be a good thing. All right. I will close the public 146 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:53,079 hearing. 147 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,959 Let us now can I have you looking for a motion? 148 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,320 » Yes. >> May I have a motion? 149 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,760 » So move. >> Second. 150 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,920 » It's been moved and second. May I have a roll call? 151 00:14:12,079 --> 00:14:15,040 » Commissioner Eelman? >> Yes. 152 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,639 » Commissioner Selixson? >> Yes. 153 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,959 » Commissioner Tungate? >> Absolutely. Yes. 154 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:21,440 » Vice Chair Brown. >> Yes. 155 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:26,240 » Commissioner Mlen, yes. >> Commissioner Tatch, 156 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:29,560 » yes. Motion carry. >> Very good. 157 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Thank you. We look forward to 158 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,720 how quickly do you think this is going to happen? 159 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,079 » Jacob, >> is Jacob the one that's going to give 160 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:52,160 that answer? Jacob, >> he needs to 161 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,880 » come on up. Jacob, can we have your name? 162 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,600 and your address. >> Uh Jacob Manando, uh 65 University 163 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:02,160 Drive, Pontiac, Michigan. >> Okay. 164 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:05,199 » So, right now we are in going through these reviews. We have zoning board at 165 00:15:03,839 --> 00:15:10,160 the end of this month. Um we're finalizing documents right now to go out 166 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:12,880 to bid. So, some of the materials right now are going to be a little bit longer, 167 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:18,399 but hopefully going to start end of summer, uh early fall to get this under 168 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:23,279 construction, if not by the latest. And you are saying your construction period 169 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:28,160 will be how long before it's completed >> depending on weather say 6 to 8 months 170 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 but probably closer to six. >> Okay. Very good. 171 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,839 » Mr. Chair. >> Yes. 172 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:37,320 » I actually have a question for the executive director if he'd like to come 173 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,320 to the podium please. 174 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:45,519 » May we have your name? >> Uh Shragi Meyers 25800 Southwood Drive. 175 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,800 » All right. >> Good evening sir. 176 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:53,519 » Good evening. Do you intend on using the city's um resources to do the permit 177 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,519 reviews >> building? 178 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Put a sales pitch in. We would love it if you would. That would be 179 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:08,160 » I would love to entertain any pitches. So you have my email address. I'll send 180 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:12,040 it over and um >> Sure. 181 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 » Thank you. 182 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,680 » Any more any more solicitations? Very 183 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,800 good. 184 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,639 » I guess I'm moving on to B. 185 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,480 » We had our vote. So, everything is good on that. 186 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,480 » Yes. >> Shake your head. Yes. 187 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:48,399 » Okay. Just wanted to make sure. >> Moving on to B. 188 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:54,079 planning commission regarding proposed special land use submitted by 189 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,480 PEA group. >> Uh, no, we just did that. 190 00:16:55,279 --> 00:17:01,560 » I'm sorry. We just did that. >> Just to move to Yeah. 191 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:09,240 » Well, then I'm Mr. Seven. >> Oh, I have different. 192 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:19,000 » Yes, I am to seven. Item seven. Yeah, I have a defender. 193 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:19,000 » Okay. I just want to make sure 194 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:29,360 7A new business site plan review for cultural center 195 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:35,559 » MIVA >> Mikvah building 196 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:35,559 14850 197 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Lincoln Street. >> Yes. 198 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,480 » Take us through that please. >> Yes. Thank you. Uh this is a site plan 199 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:49,760 review for a cultural center Mikvah building. The applicant proposes to 200 00:17:46,559 --> 00:17:55,840 build a new twostory uh building which will include a small library and women's 201 00:17:52,480 --> 00:18:01,120 mikvah on the first floor, men's mikvah on the basement floor and the youth 202 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:06,240 activity area and an off open office space on the second floor. The property 203 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:13,840 is located immediately west of the congregation Dove Ben Noim property. The 204 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,480 cultural center is intended to be used and to benefit the congregation. The 205 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:24,799 site plan shows a significant improvement in landscaping as indicated 206 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:29,760 in the staff report. The site plan meets the zoning ordinance requirements with 207 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:34,640 conditions. The applicant also need to obtain variances from the zoning board 208 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:41,600 of appeals to the north and rear setbacks the impre impervious surfaces 209 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:47,520 off street parking spaces as well as the light intensity of one wall-mounted 210 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:54,880 light. We recommend approval of the site plan subject to the eight conditions and 211 00:18:50,240 --> 00:19:01,160 we have Rabbi um Costeritz is available to answer any questions you may have. 212 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:01,160 Would you come forward, Reba? 213 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:08,440 » Would you give us your name? 214 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:14,200 » Do we have any questions for the rabbi? 215 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:21,280 » You mean we made him walk up and you have no questions for him? Um, 216 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:28,160 » Madame Mayor, >> having nothing to do with the vote, 217 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:33,280 just curious, does this mikvah service only this one congregation 218 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:37,520 » primarily? But anyone, you know, we it's like the synagogue. It's mainly serviced 219 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:41,360 by Okupak by the residents who's close by, but it's open to anyone who wants to 220 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,640 who wants to come. >> So, the answer is both. But, you know, 221 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,400 Saturdays, for example, holidays when you can't drive, it's only going to be 222 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:53,919 servicing this area. only servicing but mostly probably but 223 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:59,440 it's open to anyone who wants to come. >> Okay, thank you. 224 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:03,760 » Any other questions for the rabbi? 225 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Thank you for your quickly walking up here and 226 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,039 » thank you. Thank you everyone. Thank you for your kind service. We need people 227 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,840 like you in our community. Together we both have the same goals to make the 228 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,720 community a better for all the residents and it's a pleasure to be here. Thank 229 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,160 you everyone. >> Thank you. 230 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,720 What do you need from us? Do we need a vote? 231 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:25,679 » May I have a roll call, please? >> You need a motion. 232 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:30,240 » I need a motion. Excuse me. >> So, so moved. Second. 233 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:35,720 » It's been moved and second. May I have a roll call now? 234 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,720 » Who? 235 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:42,919 » Yes. >> Yes. 236 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,480 » Yes. >> Yes. 237 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Yes. >> Moving on to site plan review for Glow 238 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,320 Works Wholesale 239 00:20:55,360 --> 00:21:01,919 2116 Greenfield Road. 240 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:07,520 Could you take us through it? >> Yes, thank you. Uh this is a site plan 241 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:14,080 review for Glow Works. Glow Works sells uh toys, gifts, closeout sport apparel 242 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:20,720 and hot market items to the public and smaller uh resellers. Currently, Office 243 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:26,799 Depot occupies the front portion of the building while Glow Works occupies the 244 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:33,360 remaining space. Glow Works received site plan approval in March 2022. The 245 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:38,480 original original approval included the development of the vacant property to 246 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:43,679 the north with a warehouse building. The vacant parcel was not developed as 247 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:48,559 approved and Glow Works commenced operation without complying with the 248 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:53,440 conditions of the approval. The applicant indicated that they don't 249 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:59,760 intend to proceed with the development of the vacant parcel due to financial 250 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:04,240 constraints. the site plan does not uh meet the off- streetet parking 251 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:10,880 requirements. The applicant submitted a parking study which found that uh the 252 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:18,159 observed peak parking demand for the overall development was 24 spaces uh 253 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:24,320 which is significantly lower than the 173 spaces required by the zoning 254 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:30,159 ordinance. The site currently provides 90 spaces. The planning commission has 255 00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:37,039 the authority to approve reduction to the off of the off- streetet parking 256 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:42,799 spaces up to 50% of the required uh spaces with the provision of a parking 257 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:48,159 study. The staff finds that the site meets the zoning ordinance requirements 258 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:54,960 with conditions. We recommend approval of the site plan 259 00:22:50,799 --> 00:23:00,799 uh subject to the K 10 conditions specified in the staff report and we 260 00:22:57,679 --> 00:23:05,679 have Robin Robin Razak also she's the office manager is available to answer 261 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:12,240 any questions you may have. >> May I ask a question of you? Why was the 262 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:18,400 parking so high that we we needed to bring it down? Uh so that's uh based on 263 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:23,760 what we have on the zoning ordinance but sometimes it's good to have a parking 264 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:30,640 study because the parking study could show the exactly what is the need for uh 265 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:36,159 this specific use of the office depot and glow works. So that's how they 266 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:41,039 observe the parking and they see the the demand. Other retails may have more 267 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:47,600 parking spaces, may require more parking spaces, but this specific 268 00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:51,760 um use uses with the Office Depot and Glow Works shows that they need less 269 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,280 parking spaces. >> All right. Very good. 270 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,600 » Any other questions? >> Of course, 271 00:23:57,120 --> 00:24:02,960 » Mayor, >> Mr. Chair, um 272 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:08,480 it's an awful two to three retail customers a day. They have toys, gifts, 273 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:14,320 and closeout items, and they only get a couple. How do they stay in business? 274 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:17,360 » Uh, that's Goen, if you want to answer. >> Hi. 275 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:21,919 » Here comes Here comes a tough question. >> Yeah, really tough question. So, we've 276 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:30,640 actually been in business for 25 years. Um, we were in Warren for most of those 277 00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:36,799 years. And, uh, our main source of business isn't retail, it's wholesale. 278 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:41,600 We wholesale to Cedar Point, SeaWorld, Busushch Gardens, all of the theme parks 279 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:48,159 coast to coast, as well as all of the zoos. Um, 280 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:52,960 and then we also have like a showroom if people wanted to come in and buy ones 281 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:58,240 and twos. We have a ton of people um locally that do come in and buy stuff 282 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:59,600 for their kids uh bat mitzvah um 283 00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:04,320 » parties, >> birthday parties, all of those little 284 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,000 novelties that you would buy. >> So people can come in and buy 285 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:14,720 » Yeah, absolutely. Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. Um 286 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:18,640 uh question for the staff. Isn't Office Depot going out and do we know what's 287 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,120 going in? >> Uh not so. I know. I know that they are 288 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,960 still there, but no, >> Office Depot is They just resigned their 289 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,960 5-year lease. >> They did. 290 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,559 » So, yeah, they're not going anywhere. >> Oh, 291 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,919 » yeah. >> I'll be. Huh? 292 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,360 » Yeah. >> Thank you. 293 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:40,000 » You're welcome. >> So, everything is stable the way it is. 294 00:25:37,919 --> 00:25:45,320 Thank you. >> That's it. 295 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320 » Any other questions? 296 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:55,400 » May I have a motion? Second. 297 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,400 » Mayor Ro call. 298 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,320 » Commissioner TK. >> Yes. 299 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080 » Commissioner. >> Yes. 300 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,919 » Commissioner. >> Yes. 301 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,279 » Vice Chair Brown. >> Yes. 302 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,720 » Commissioner Tate. >> Yes. 303 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,159 » Commissioner Eisen. >> Yes. 304 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:13,760 » Motion carried. >> Motion carried. Thank you for giving us 305 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:20,799 that information. We really appreciate the fact that you're there. 306 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:24,880 Moving on to item eight, planning commission 307 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:30,799 matters for discussion. >> Mr. Chair, I don't have a question, but 308 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:35,440 I do have a comment I I want to um give to Salam. I want to say welcome back. 309 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Welcome home. Salam just returned from overseas. We were worried about you, so 310 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:43,440 we're glad you're back. >> Why don't you send a jet to get her? 311 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,240 » I say why don't you send a jet to get her? 312 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:49,360 We could send a city jet. >> Oh, well that's what I'm saying. 313 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:55,440 » I I did send a jet. It's an invisible one, but I did send it. 314 00:26:50,880 --> 00:27:00,240 » Oh, so she flew with her wings. >> Okay. 315 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:06,240 Uh I have a comment. I enjoyed uh the discipline of the 316 00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:12,400 firemen and the police officers. We had a fire 317 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:16,960 over on Burton in one of the larger houses. 318 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:22,880 It is a scary thought that when you're laying there taking a nap and the smoke 319 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:28,159 starts coming into your house and you believe that your house is on fire and 320 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:33,440 when you jump up and you realize that you have your alarm on and the fire 321 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:39,520 engine is in your driveway. So, you believe it's your house 322 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:46,640 » that is having a problem. But they were very good and they knocked 323 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:52,000 it down early. Uh it was an event for that day and they were completely 324 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:55,840 professional and I was standing out there in no shoes and my neighbors more 325 00:27:53,919 --> 00:28:00,640 worried about me standing there with no clothes on. I said, "Hey, I had the 326 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,559 smoke was in the house. What can I tell you?" But they did a very professional 327 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:09,840 job. And it was good to see how 328 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:15,120 professionally they moved, how good they were, and how quickly they extinguished 329 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:20,559 the fire. So we didn't lose the house because the winds were blowing rather 330 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:27,520 hard. And that's why most of the houses east of there were filling with smoke. 331 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:32,240 So, but my commendation to them. >> Question about your comment. 332 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:35,919 » Yes. What was what caused the fire? >> Who knows? 333 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,120 » Well, they were more concerned about me catching cold because I was out there in 334 00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:43,360 a t-shirt. >> Mr. Brown, don't you think you need to 335 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:48,559 go inside? We haven't discovered what the cause of the fire was. So, that's 336 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:54,320 something that we'll do. I'm quite sure they are reporting to the city on the 337 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:58,320 fact that we had one, but I wanted to give them accommodation for what they 338 00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:06,279 did because it was quick and it really was silent. 339 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,279 But thank you. Any other comments? 340 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:14,640 No, Sullivson, we're done. >> You know, with all we have tonight, I 341 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:20,840 can't even get on your face. >> No, you can. 342 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,840 » Yeah, that's right.