1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:09,040 When we say the pledge, the flag is behind you. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:13,240 So, we need um we need the first we need the first girl who's gonna 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:24,800 come on up here. Let's see. 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:28,840 Okay, let's see. So, you're gonna um um bang this 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:38,879 So you just start the meeting. Ready? Good job. 6 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:47,559 » This meeting of the Oak Park City Council will come to order 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,559 and I need the next Girl Scout. 8 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:03,600 Please stand for the pledge of allegiance right here. 9 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:06,600 » Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. 10 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:10,200 » Then we all 11 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,920 start 12 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:26,720 to flag the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One 13 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:31,400 nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 14 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:42,439 » Please be seated, 15 00:01:45,759 --> 00:01:50,096 » madame mayor. They're coming for your job. 16 00:01:48,076 --> 00:01:50,096 » [laughter] 17 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:03,520 » the city clerk please call the role. >> Would the city clerk please call the 18 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,439 role? >> Great job. 19 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,680 » Mayor >> here. 20 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:12,959 » Mayor >> here. Council member 21 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:16,239 » here >> council member 22 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:19,959 » here. We have a quorum. 23 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Is there a motion to approve the agenda? >> So moved. 24 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,440 » Second. >> All those in favor say I. 25 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:35,760 » I. >> Any opposed? Motion carried. Consent 26 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:40,239 agenda. The following routine items are presented for approval without 27 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:44,720 discussion as a single agenda item. Should any member wish to discuss or 28 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:49,840 disapprove any item, it must be dropped from the blanket motion and considered 29 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:56,560 separately. A regular council meeting minutes for March 4th, 2026. B. Payment 30 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,440 request from Newman Smith Architecture for architectural services on the Aventh 31 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Hub project for the total amount of $3,000. C payment request from Newman 32 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Smith Architecture for architectural services on the community center project 33 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,840 for the total amount of $26,93920. 34 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:25,519 D approval of pay application number one to DVM Utilities of Sterling Heights, 35 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:31,360 Michigan for the 2026 sewer lining project M791 36 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:37,920 in the amount of $9,270. E request to approve pay application 37 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:43,120 number two to Taplan Group LLC of Calamazoo, Michigan for the 2025 sewer 38 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:50,360 and catch basin cleaning and TV inspection project M783 39 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,360 in the amount of 63,8824. 40 00:03:52,720 --> 00:04:04,000 F payment request from MDOT for the 2025 9mm construction project from Cloverlon 41 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:08,200 to Greenfield Road M7771 for the total amount of $7,559.80. 42 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:20,880 G request to approve the 2026 27 liquor license renewals. H. New and renewal 43 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:27,759 licenses for March 16th, 2026. I payment request from landscape forms 44 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:35,960 for outdoor furniture at the 11mi road alleys and parking lot reconfiguration 45 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,960 project for the total amount of $17,335. 46 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:45,520 J maintenance agreement with the road commission for Oakland County for street 47 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,479 sweeping, litter picking, lawnmowing services on Greenfield Road from 8 to 10 48 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:56,000 mile roads and on 10 mile road from Greenfield to Maplefield. K. Request to 49 00:04:53,759 --> 00:05:02,880 approve payment application number five for the 2025 black pruning project to 50 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:09,440 Lim Walkers Tree and Snow LLC of Kenny, Michigan in the amount of $4,125. 51 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:14,960 All those um is there a motion to approve the agenda the the this agenda? 52 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:19,520 » So move second. >> Thank you. 53 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:23,120 » Um all those in favor please say I. >> I. 54 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:27,120 » Any opposed? Motion carry. >> Item number six on our agenda is 55 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:30,639 recognition of visiting elected officials. Do we have any elected 56 00:05:29,039 --> 00:05:35,039 officials? >> Seeing none. Item seven, 57 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,240 » special recognition. >> Mayor board. Say it again. 58 00:05:37,039 --> 00:05:41,199 » School board me. School board membership. 59 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:45,919 » School board member. >> Hi. 60 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:50,320 » So glad to have you here. Did you have something you want to say? 61 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:56,720 Coming to visit. We're so delighted to have you. Thank you. 62 00:05:53,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Um item seven, youth assistance presentation. Sandra 63 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:07,919 Clark, would you come up? Make sure that is on 64 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:11,039 and shining green. There you go. 65 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:16,319 » Good evening. >> And holler real loud. 66 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:23,199 Can you hear me? Okay, good. Good evening. Uh to our board, city manager, 67 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:27,280 and members of city council. My name is Alexandra Clark, and I am currently 68 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:32,000 serving as the chair of the youth recognition committee with the Oak Park 69 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Youth Assistance. I am here this evening to share some exciting news and to 70 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:42,400 extend an invitation to you. On April 29th, 2026, Oak Park Youth Assistance 71 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:47,039 will host the youth recognition ceremony at the Oak Park High School cafeteria. 72 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:52,160 This ceremony is being conducted with the goal of celebrating youth who may 73 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,440 not otherwise be recognized. The students participating in the 74 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:01,120 celebration are nominated by teachers and school staff for qualities such as 75 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,919 kindness, helpfulness, and perseverance, improvement, and other positive 76 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:08,479 characteristics that deserve encouragement and recognition. This 77 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:13,840 year's theme is planting seeds of success, celebrating growth. It reflects 78 00:07:11,599 --> 00:07:17,440 our belief that when we acknowledge the small but meaningful ways our young 79 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:21,199 people contribute to our schools and community, we are helping nurture 80 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,680 confidence, character, and future success. This event is especially 81 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:29,599 meaningful because it will be the first youth recognition ceremony held since 82 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:33,599 2017. When I joined Oak Park Youth Assistance 83 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:38,400 about a year ago and was asked to select a committee to chair, this was the one 84 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,759 that stood out to me the most. Not every child will be an honor student or a star 85 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:48,720 athlete, but every child has the capacity to make a positive impact. And 86 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,759 those contributions deserve to be seen and celebrated. This year, 27 students 87 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:58,960 have been selected and we are truly honored to recognize them and the growth 88 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:03,840 that they have shown. Invitations have been emailed to you by our OPYA chair, 89 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:07,520 but I wanted to come personally tonight and formally invite you to attend the 90 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:11,199 special event and to help us celebrate the young people in our community 91 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:15,199 because when we take time to recognize the good in our youth today, we help 92 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:19,120 cultivate the leaders of tomorrow. Thank you. 93 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:24,879 » One question. April 29th is the time >> time is 5:30. 94 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:29,280 » 5:30. April 29th, 5:30 Oak Park High School cafeteria. 95 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,479 Mark your calendar. >> Thank you so much. 96 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,479 » Thank you. 97 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:41,519 » Communication. We have um the city clerk has 98 00:08:39,519 --> 00:08:44,880 foreclosure prevention letter from the Oakland County Treasurer, Robert 99 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:49,279 Whittenberg. >> Madame Mayor, I'm going to ask Oh, okay. 100 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:54,000 I'm going to read this. This is a letter from Oakland County Treasur's Office 101 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,600 regarding foreclosure prevention. and the Oakland County Treasurer's Office is 102 00:08:55,519 --> 00:09:03,120 in the final stretch of our foreclosure prevention efforts. The tax foreclosure 103 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:07,519 deadline for the 2023 andor prior tax prior year taxes is on March 31st, 2026. 104 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:12,959 That means if these taxes aren't paid off by March 31st or or any interested 105 00:09:10,959 --> 00:09:17,360 party hasn't entered into a repayment schedule with the treasur's office by 106 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:21,519 then, the property will be foreclosed. Since December of 2025, the treasur's 107 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:26,240 office has conducted over a thousand taxpayer assistance meetings to assist 108 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:30,080 taxpayers with keeping their properties by working with them to get on a 109 00:09:27,519 --> 00:09:34,160 repayment schedule and/or by identifying resources that may be beneficial to them 110 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:38,320 in their situation. We are here to help and strongly encourage taxpayers to 111 00:09:36,399 --> 00:09:43,120 contact us before the tax foreclosure deadline if they have delinquent taxes 112 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:47,200 for 2023 and/or prior tax years. Taxpayers interested in scheduling a 113 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:50,600 taxpayer assistance meeting may call us at 2488580611 114 00:09:50,959 --> 00:09:55,080 or they may visit www.okev.comtreasurer. 115 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:03,600 Thank you. Robertw Whittenberg, Oakland County Treasurer. 116 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:10,160 » Thank you. Item nine, special licenses. Request for 117 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:17,440 special event license submitted by Train Station Sports LLC, 118 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:24,399 14661 West 11m Road, Sweet 700, for the Cub Day family social event to be held 119 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:28,760 on April 11th from 4:00 to 7 o'clock. Is there a motion to grant this? 120 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:37,839 » Second. >> Thank you. 121 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Um uh because it is uh not a nonprofit, they do pay a fee for this um special 122 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:48,560 license. Any discussion or questions? All those in favor, please say I. 123 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,920 » I. >> Any opposed? Motion carried. 124 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,480 » Accounting reports. Approval for payment of an invoice submitted by Schiffman 125 00:10:55,680 --> 00:11:04,079 Fornier for legal services retainer for April 1st, 2026 to June 30th in the 126 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,279 total amount of $20,000. Is there a motion to approve? 127 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:12,560 » So moved. >> Second. 128 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:15,920 » And and uh Council Member Rner, why? >> Well, let's not pay our lawyers and see 129 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:21,399 what happens. >> Okay. [laughter] 130 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,399 Um roll call, please. 131 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:25,600 Council member Crawford, >> yes. 132 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,120 » Mayor Prom Edgar, >> yes. 133 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,720 » Mayor Mlen, >> yes. 134 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 » Council member Radner, >> yes. 135 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,680 » Council member Whitehead, >> yes. 136 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:37,760 » Motion carried. Thank you. >> Item 10B, approval for payment of 137 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:42,839 invoices submitted by Garen Luk Miller, PC for legal services in the amount of 138 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:42,839 $15,874.76. 139 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:51,600 » So moved >> with enthusiasm. Did you see? 140 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:57,519 » Second. Got to get the lawyers. >> Any discussion? Roll call, please. 141 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:59,200 » Mayor Prom Edgar, >> yes. 142 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,959 » Mayor Mlullen, >> yes. 143 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,560 » Council member Radner, yes. >> Council member Whitehead, 144 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,399 » yes. >> Council member Crawford, 145 00:12:03,839 --> 00:12:10,959 » yes. >> Motion carry. Thank you. Item 11, bids. 146 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:18,560 request to award the bid for the 2026 water mane replacement project M785 147 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:24,360 to Eminent Excavating Local LLC of Dearborn, Michigan for the total amount 148 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,360 of 1,876,760. 149 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:35,720 » Is there a motion to award the bid? >> So moved. 150 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,720 » Is there a second? 151 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Motion dies. for lack of a second. Hello. 152 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:43,839 » Second. >> Thank you. 153 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,639 » Okay. Um uh please. >> They're not they're not lawyers, but we 154 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,519 should probably still pay them. >> Yes. 155 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:54,240 » Thank you, mayor, council members, city manager. This item before you this 156 00:12:52,240 --> 00:13:00,639 evening is a request to award the bid for the 2026 water mane replacement 157 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:06,160 project M785 to Eminent Excavating Local LLC of 158 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:10,120 Dearbornne, Michigan for the total amount of 1,876,760 159 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:22,320 at the January 20th, 2026 regular meeting of of Oak Park City Council. The 160 00:13:19,839 --> 00:13:28,480 request to bid the 2026 water main replacement project was approved. The 161 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:35,680 project was advertised and 129 contractors viewed the documents. 162 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:42,240 On February 23rd, 2026, 12 bids were received and opened. The 163 00:13:38,959 --> 00:13:48,839 low bidder eminent excavating local LLC of Dearborn, Michigan submitted the bid 164 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,839 of 1,876,760 165 00:13:50,720 --> 00:14:00,639 for the the water main project. This project will take place and in areas 166 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:05,760 shown on the attached map. Uh we have recently worked with Eminent 167 00:14:03,199 --> 00:14:11,279 Excavating and have no issues with their work. 168 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:16,880 And this bid actually came uh below or came under the engineers estimate. 169 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:25,040 And with that, it is recommended that city council award the bid for the 2026 170 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:31,680 water main replacement project M785 to Eminent Excavate Excavating Local LLC 171 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,480 of Dearborn, Michigan for the total amount of 1,876,760. 172 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,440 Funding is available in the water and sewer fund. 173 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:47,800 » Water and sewer fund. Uh, we have a motion and a second. Are there 174 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,800 questions? 175 00:14:49,839 --> 00:14:53,639 » Roll call vote then. 176 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,880 » Mayor Mlen, >> yes. 177 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 » Council member Radner, >> yes. 178 00:14:57,279 --> 00:15:00,399 » Council member Whitehead, >> yes. 179 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,240 » Council member Crawford, >> yes. 180 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,240 » Mayor Prom Edgar, >> yes. 181 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:10,399 » Motion carries. Thank you. Item 12, City Attorney. 182 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:15,600 » Good evening, Madame Mayor and members of council. The item before you tonight 183 00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:20,720 is the Metro Access Transmission Service Corporation doing business as Verizon 184 00:15:17,839 --> 00:15:26,399 Access Transmission Services request for Metro Act rightway permit extension. On 185 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:30,000 February 9th, 2026, the city received a request from Verizon Transmission 186 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:35,199 Services which to extend a permit which currently 187 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:40,800 expires on April 4th, 2026. The requested extension is for a 5-year term 188 00:15:37,519 --> 00:15:45,839 which will end on April 4th, 2031. The permit grants MCI Metro the right to 189 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:50,160 build, operate, and maintain fiber optic cable in public easements within the 190 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,920 city of Oak Park. I have undertaken a review of the proposed permit extension, 191 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,680 and the city is now in receipt of an updated route map of facilities and an 192 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,800 insurance certificate that names the city as an additional insured as 193 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:04,959 required by state law and local ordinance. The M municipal services 194 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,759 department has also reviewed the permit and has confirmed that there are no 195 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:12,160 technical issues with approving the requested extension. The city attorney's 196 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:18,880 office recommends approval of the requested extension 197 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:22,560 through uh April 4th of 2026 and the information is also contained within 198 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,759 your agenda packets. >> Okay. Is there a motion to that effect? 199 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:31,120 » So moved. >> Second. 200 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:34,680 » Thank you. Uh discussion or questions? >> Roll call, please. 201 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:40,320 » Council member Radner. >> Yes. Council member Whitehead, 202 00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:42,079 » yes. >> Council member Crawford, 203 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,839 » yes. >> Mayor Prom Edgar, 204 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:49,040 » yes. >> Mayor Mlen, 205 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:53,279 » yes. Motion carried. Thank you, >> Madame Mayor. Item number 12B, also 206 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:57,440 presented by the city attorney's office, is an appeal of an excessive fee 207 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:02,399 assessed for processing freedom of information record request from Joshua 208 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Hunter of Berkeley, M. Michigan. As set forth in your agenda packets, Mr. Hunter 209 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:13,120 appealed the fee assessed by the clerk's office for processing a February 22nd, 210 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:17,839 2026 Freedom of Information Act for public records seeking email 211 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:22,160 communications, including attachments that were sent or received since January 212 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:26,559 22nd between city staff, city officers, or the city's contracted law firm that 213 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:30,880 concern the city attorney's oath of office, the oath requirements under the 214 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:35,440 Michigan Constitution, as well as the city attorney's appointed officer status 215 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:43,600 and information that Mr. Hunter previously requested in his requests on 216 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:50,240 January 22nd and January 28th. The basis for the appeal is set forth in your 217 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:56,160 agenda packets. A total fee of $29 was assessed by the city clerk's office 218 00:17:53,280 --> 00:18:02,880 to search for and identify the requested records. the city did not charge for any 219 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:08,080 redaction or providing any type of additional um elimination of documents 220 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:11,760 that were not subject to FOYA. So, the appeal is before you tonight to 221 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:17,360 determine if the fee assessed by the city clerk's office is valid or if you 222 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:22,400 would like to reverse the fee. The copy of the invoice included with the 223 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:27,360 submission to Mr. Hunter by the clerk's office is also included in your agenda 224 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:33,520 packets. The total labor cost to locate the records as detailed in the rec in 225 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:40,120 the invoice is $29.50 per hour 226 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,120 and that is the total balance due. 227 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:50,720 » Okay. Um what is the recommendation of the city attorney's office? 228 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,120 The recommendation is that the fee assess be maintained because the fees 229 00:18:52,799 --> 00:19:00,320 were not assessed in violation of the act and the city did not charge for 230 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:07,600 items that are not permitted to be charged under the act. And we've 231 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:11,200 detailed all of the um basis for the fee appeal in your agenda packets. It's 232 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:16,480 rather lengthy, so I'm not going to read it all into the record tonight. 233 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:22,559 » Right. Um, if we want to deny this, we vote no. 234 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:27,679 » You would vote to uphold the decision of the clerk's office to 235 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,240 assess a fee. >> I'm going to make a mot. Is there a 236 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:32,720 motion yet? >> No. 237 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:38,000 » I'm going to make a motion to uphold the $29.50 238 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:40,160 charge for uh for these foyer requests. >> Thank you. 239 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,440 » Is there a second? >> I second. 240 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:49,520 » Thank you. So if we vote yes, we're upholding the foyer charge of 2950 based 241 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:53,360 on this the invoice that's attached. >> Okay. 242 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,600 » Does everyone understand the vote? >> Yep. 243 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,039 » Okay. Roll call, please. >> Council member Radner, 244 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,880 » yes. >> Council member Whitehead, 245 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,320 » yes. >> Council member Crawford, 246 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 » yes. >> Mayor Prom Edgar, 247 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,200 » yes. >> Mayor Mlen, 248 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:10,880 » yes. Motion carried. Thank you, >> Madame Mayor and members of council. 249 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,720 Item number 12 C is before you tonight on an appeal of a public record request 250 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:19,360 determination for Joshua Hunter of Berkeley, Michigan. On Sunday, February 251 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:22,880 22nd, Mr. Hunter submitted a request under the Freedman of a Information Act 252 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,799 seeking all existing email communications sent or received since 253 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:30,320 January 22nd between the city staff, city officers, andor the city's 254 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:34,320 contracted law firm that concern or reference the items mentioned in your 255 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,200 agenda packet, including the city attorney's oath of office. 256 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:45,440 The city did not provide a response as detailed in the prior appeal. There was 257 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:50,480 an invoice that was sent um advising Mr. Hunter of the cost for the records and 258 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:58,240 upon payment of that projected cost the city will be providing the records. 259 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:05,080 » Okay. So we are voting. >> I I will uh make the motion to um uphold 260 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:05,080 the appeal. 261 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,000 » Is there a second? 262 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:16,080 » Second. Thank you. um discussion 263 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:20,480 » very simply when you submit a foil you get an invoice you pay the invoice you 264 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:23,679 get your records I do this all the time you don't pay the invoice you don't get 265 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:30,320 your records it's as simple as that whether they exist or not 266 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,640 » okay thank you roll call please >> uh council member Whitehead 267 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,480 » yes >> uh council member Crawford 268 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,159 » yes >> Mayor prom Edgar 269 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,520 » yes >> Mayor Mlen 270 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,520 » yes >> council member Rner 271 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:45,039 » yes >> motion carries thank Thank you, 272 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:49,360 city manager Eric Tongate. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of 273 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:53,280 council. For item 13A1, I am going to turn it over to our city attorney. Um, 274 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,039 this is regarding a public hearing to consider whether to submit a 275 00:21:54,559 --> 00:22:00,880 recommendation to the Micker Michigan liquor control commission for the 276 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:07,520 non-renewal class liquor license issued to Oak Park Social LLC at 14691 West 11 277 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:12,400 Road. Madam, city attorney. 278 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:18,640 » Thank you, city manager. Under section 6.62 of the Oak Park code of ordinances, 279 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:22,320 the city had provided notice to Oak Park Social LLC that it's in violation of the 280 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,159 ordinance by failing to timely pay all amounts for personal personal property 281 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:31,039 taxes, real property taxes, and utilities due to the city of Oak Park. 282 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,799 Under section 6-61 of the code of ordinances requires the city to review 283 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,919 each liquor license annually to determine compliance with this 284 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:42,320 provision, which it has done in this case. All of the liquor licences were 285 00:22:40,159 --> 00:22:46,960 reviewed and a public hearing was scheduled for purposes of the 286 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:51,360 recommendation for Oak Park Social not being in compliance with the ordinance. 287 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:55,120 The public hearing is required as a prerequisite to the city issuing a 288 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:59,280 recommendation to the liquor control commission on whether or not to renew 289 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:04,559 the license. The deadline for the city to submit its recommendation to the 290 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:08,400 liquor control commission is March 31st, 2026. 291 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:10,799 » I have a question about Is there a motion? Do we need to make a motion? Is 292 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,960 there a public hearing? How do we do this? 293 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,240 » The mayor needs to open the public hearing for comment by anyone in the 294 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,880 audience. >> Public hearing is open. Is there anyone 295 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:26,320 here who would like to speak about this issue? There will be a regular 296 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:32,400 um time at the end of the meeting to speak about other issues. 297 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:36,400 This is about the >> Okay. Um 298 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:40,640 » hello. So I spoke to Ed earlier regarding this. We want till the end of 299 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,799 the month on the 31st to do that. >> Madam Mayor, could I 300 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:47,679 » you got to identify yourself. >> Yeah, Alex Social in regards to what you 301 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:52,559 guys are discussing right now. So, I spoke to Ed earlier regarding the 302 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:57,200 property tax and all that stuff. Um, and I also suggested that really the 303 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:01,760 ordinance is not business first. It's city first. So, and it's something that 304 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,760 you guys chose to add. It's not required on a state level. And the state's 305 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,679 license supersedes the local. So, you should just get rid of it and let 306 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:15,120 businesses manage their money the way they want. 307 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:18,799 Absolutely no value. Something to think about. We're going on 308 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:21,760 two years dealing with this kind of stuff, especially when we invested in a 309 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,400 whole new restaurant for you guys in the city and spent close to $350,000 310 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:30,080 in your city. >> So, 311 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:35,120 between us and the county for property taxes, not the city. 312 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:39,520 » Before he goes, can I ask can I ask a question, please? 313 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:44,400 What is going on here? There's there's delinquent property tax bills. There's 314 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:46,400 delinquent water bills. He's talking about something completely different. 315 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,640 Unless I'm missing it. >> No, it's the same thing. 316 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,480 » So, >> your ordinance requires all property 317 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,440 taxes and or water bills to be paid prior to the renewal of the license for 318 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:57,679 that year. >> Yeah. So, what's wrong with that? 319 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,360 » A lot. >> Well, 320 00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:03,919 » especially when you're investing and you're choosing to delay paying property 321 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:08,159 taxes to manage cash flow. >> Have you spoken to the city about this? 322 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:11,200 » Many times over the last two years I've been discussing this. This is an 323 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,559 ordinance you created and I understand that in the beginning when you had 324 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:18,640 uncertainty regarding liquor licensing laws because it was something that was 325 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,840 new to you, but now you've seen it. You've been through it. We're going on 326 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:26,080 almost six years of liquor licensing in your city with no issues. We've even 327 00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:31,520 gotten a letter from the MLCC congratulating us for being so good as 328 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,720 operators and managing no underage drinking or anything. We've never had 329 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:39,039 any issues. You can talk to anyone in public service. 330 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Those are facts. So, just get rid of this ordinance that you decided to add 331 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,200 as an additional city layer that's not required on a state level. 332 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,440 » Well, that's not that's not helpful right now. Right now, 333 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:50,960 » it can work. If you guys were to vote, you could eliminate it. Okay? 334 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:52,480 » Because it's not businessfriendly. City first. 335 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,840 » I know. I know. >> So, either you're city first or you're 336 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:58,799 business first. It's one of the two. You can't be both. 337 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,200 » It's between us and the taxes >> and for the taxes with the county when 338 00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:06,320 we choose to pay them. The county then pays you the difference of what goes to 339 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:11,520 your schools and your public safety. After that, we also pay interest on 340 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,559 delaying paying property taxes. So, I don't know if cities benefit from that 341 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,320 interest or the county does only. But regardless, it's our choice to manage 342 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,960 our cash flow the way we want, which is best for our business. 343 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:28,080 » How much time is left? >> These are facts. These are facts. And 344 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,320 you know what? Check it out. Here's another reason. the interest. If you 345 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:37,440 divide the interest over 12 months, if I pay an extra $600, $700 on taxes, divide 346 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,799 that by 12, that's only $60 a month for me to carry cost for something that cost 347 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:43,760 me thousands of dollars. So, to me, I'm allowed to do that and I'm paying the 348 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,840 penalty for it. So, it's none of the city's business when I choose to pay my 349 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,279 taxes to the county. After three years, a property would go delinquent. Would we 350 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:55,760 ever let that happen? That would be foolish. The answer is no. 351 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,120 So, this is something to think about. You've been doing this for years and I 352 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,679 understand that you needed this layer in the beginning, but the state's license 353 00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:09,760 supersedes the local. So, just get rid of it completely and make it more of a 354 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,080 businessfriendly city. Still charge your 250 ft to renew. And just so you know, 355 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:18,159 across the street on 11 mile, they don't even have this. Berkeley doesn't even 356 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,080 have a liquor license. They go off of the state. The state is the one that 357 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:27,919 does the background check, criminal check, all those things managed. 358 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:32,400 So getting involved on a local level is is honestly it's you don't have time for 359 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,960 that. Focus on other things. Get rid of it. 360 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:42,799 I mentioned it to Eric many times. Eric and Ed and many people have been on the 361 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:48,159 emails before. It has no value. Your hands are busy with other things. 362 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:51,840 Get out of this sector. I want till the end of the month to 363 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,159 close them out even though I don't want to. 364 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:59,480 Your time is up. Thank you. >> We're good. 365 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:15,520 » Now, let's see. Uh, if there's no one else to speak, 366 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:22,399 we will close the public hearing. >> Madame Mayor, may I ask question? 367 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:27,600 » Uh, council member Sean Whitehead. Well, I was I was actually going to ask 368 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:33,279 um the question. If I don't pay my property taxes, what happens to me? I 369 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:38,000 mean, it's you have to pay your property taxes. 370 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:44,200 That's what keeps us going. So, I'm not quite sure I understand the argument. 371 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Maybe maybe you guys understand. 372 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:56,760 » He just wants to cash it. 373 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,760 And if you pay it a few months later, 374 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:07,480 » um Sean Whiteheads, 375 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:18,960 » yeah, there's uh $4,6610 in outstanding uh delinquent utility 376 00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:21,840 bills. >> It's gone up. 377 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:28,720 » Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. It's gone up. It's gone up to $4,795 378 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:36,559 outstanding utility bills. >> I think he took I don't think he 379 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:42,720 » city manager, can you explain why? I'm not sure I understand all of 380 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:48,960 this. So, what was his argument? >> Well, so I don't [clears throat] know to 381 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:53,120 be honest. Um, so our our our position when I say our the administration's 382 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:59,120 position is to follow the law. So the law is that you cannot be delinquent on 383 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:04,240 any of your outstanding bills to the city, whether it be utility bills, 384 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:08,159 property taxes, whatever. So that we are following the direction that's laid out 385 00:30:06,159 --> 00:30:12,880 in the ordinance allowing for liquor licenses in the city of Oak Park. I 386 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:18,559 think, and I'm only speculating because I don't know. Um, and I believe he's now 387 00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:22,799 two years in a rears at least on his property taxes. Correct. It's not. Yeah. 388 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,919 So, [clears throat] it's not just the one year. It's now two years, but after 389 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,919 three years, of course, it could possibly go into to the county for 390 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,600 foreclosure. Um, but what he's saying, and again, I'm 391 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:38,159 speculating, but I think what he's saying is that other cities who have a 392 00:30:35,919 --> 00:30:44,159 longer history of allowing liquor licenses don't have these strict 393 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:49,399 requirements in order for a a liquor license to be applied for from the 394 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:49,399 Liquor Control Commission. 395 00:30:53,679 --> 00:31:00,720 » I hear what you're saying, too. >> I'm not advocating. I'm just stating 396 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,720 what I think. here. 397 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,799 Um, my next question is this. He said that he would do it by the end of the 398 00:31:07,919 --> 00:31:12,960 month. Obviously, we're not going to have a meeting before the end of the 399 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:17,600 month. What if the motion is Thank you. What if the motion is that we sign this 400 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:22,720 on April 2nd if he has not come current on his on these delinquent bills? So I I 401 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:27,039 would I want to defer a little bit to the city attorney, but I will just say 402 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:31,919 from my perspective, if regardless of whether the letter has gone to the state 403 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,960 from us, which you know, in order to make it by the end of the month, it has 404 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:42,480 to go out pretty soon. Uh if these are if and he did send an email right prior 405 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:47,440 to the meeting at 6:55 and he says he'll have them all paid by April 1st, right? 406 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:50,240 So, if that's the case, then we would, of course, the letter will have been 407 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,919 sent because we want to make sure it arrives on time, but we will contact 408 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:59,840 liquor control commission and let them know he has paid those bills in full. 409 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,480 » So, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do that. In other words, but 410 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:10,240 again, I'll defer to the city attorney. >> Under the statute, our recommendation is 411 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:15,440 due to liquor control by March 31st. That is statutory, so we cannot extend 412 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:20,240 that. And as I mentioned, our ordinance requires us to review all licenses every 413 00:32:17,679 --> 00:32:24,240 year under the same criteria. And all of our licenses with the exception of Oak 414 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:30,799 Park Social have complied with the ordinance. 415 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:35,039 So, as city manager stated, you can um submit an updated recommendation to 416 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,120 liquor control if the payment is made April 1st, but by April 1, it would be 417 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:44,080 too late to make a recommendation otherwise. And again, liquor control is 418 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:48,399 the ultimate final decision maker on whether to issue licenses. So, the city 419 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,399 is only making a recommendation. The liquor control commission does not have 420 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,399 to accept it, but it's just a recommendation that we sent in. 421 00:32:53,919 --> 00:33:01,039 » So, Madam City, Madam Mayor, could I um Madam City attorney, just just for 422 00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:10,159 clarification, so he would have to have all outstanding bills paid by March on 423 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:14,000 March 31st or before. And to me, that's a provision we would extend to any 424 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:17,919 business in the city. It's not a unique provision, right? 425 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,440 » I sure hope so. >> I mean, why wouldn't we? 426 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:25,840 » It would be at council's discretion, but again, all of our licenses are held to 427 00:33:23,679 --> 00:33:30,880 the same standard as set forth in the ordinance, and all of the licences are 428 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:35,039 re renew reviewed every year to see if they're in compliance. 429 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:38,640 » I I have another question. How do we submit the recommendation? Is it 430 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,480 electronic? Is it mail? >> Council's resolution is uh 431 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:46,960 electronically submitted to the liquor control commission. 432 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:53,000 » So if so by so if it has to be done by March 31st, it could be done on March 433 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000 31st, right? 434 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:59,120 » We can't guarantee it would make the deadline if we waited that long is what 435 00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:02,559 I'm saying. >> Could we compromise and have them pay by 436 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,760 » maybe March 30th? >> March 29th. 437 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:11,520 » 29th. That's where I was going with this. Let's see how much I I look, I get 438 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,919 his point. I also hear what you guys are saying loud and clear. I really do. I'm 439 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,960 just trying to come up with something that's fair. 440 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:22,000 » Madame Mayor, could I >> if we if he loses his liquor license, 441 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:26,079 » we're all in Washington. >> And I think Can I just speak to that? 442 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:29,679 So, you know, and I've we've you know, again, our job is to enforce the laws 443 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,919 that are in front of us. So, just to clarify that we're not taking a position 444 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:36,000 either way. So, we don't want to take anyone's license away. We I don't think 445 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:41,040 you are. >> We're absolutely pro business. I mean, 446 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:45,440 we we're the ones that authorize liquor licenses. So, of course, we want as many 447 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:51,040 restaurants in our city as possible. So, we're not about any of that. I don't 448 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:56,399 know why it would be an issue though if everything was paid by the 31st to for 449 00:34:53,359 --> 00:35:00,880 us to make a phone call to liquor control to to have him to have this 450 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:05,280 removed. >> I'm trying to I don't know. I don't know 451 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,200 how it's viewed once that happens. I'm trying to figure out a way for us to not 452 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,240 have this on his record, whatever that means. 453 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:15,920 » Can I So, Mr. City Clerk, is it is it an issue because your office administrates 454 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:20,960 this, but is it an issue for us to communicate with liquor control if and 455 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:26,079 when that happens in a timely basis? So, let's say it's on 456 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:30,880 the 31st. >> It that doesn't seem to be a problem as 457 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,320 far as um what we can get done. >> No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm 458 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:38,240 saying is I'm not saying put it there and then take it away. I'm saying it's 459 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,119 kind of like, you know, I have clients that sometimes have have a conviction 460 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:46,480 and then they get it expuned. It's better not to have the conviction. So 461 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:50,000 this to me, if I if I were a Lency, I would not want this letter to exist. I'm 462 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:54,240 trying to figure out a way for it to not exist. If we give them until March 29th 463 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,560 and we say if you don't pay by March 29th, we're going to submit this to 464 00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:04,720 liquor control March 30th. >> Can't would that work? 465 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:08,720 That way everybody gets what they want. >> If it wouldn't work, tell me why it 466 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:12,240 wouldn't work. I'm I'm I'm gonna defer. >> Okay. 467 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:17,760 » Liquor control has to have our recommendation by March 31st. 468 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:22,960 So, it has to be in hand by the close of business on March 31st. So, however, 469 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:27,520 council decides to move forward >> once we we don't have any ability to 470 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:32,160 extend that deadline. That's statutory. >> Right. That's what what I'm asking is if 471 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,920 right now let's say I make the motion to I'm not making it yet so start writing 472 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,520 stuff down. If let's say the motion is we're going to give him until March 29th 473 00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:44,000 and if he does not come current by March 29th then on March 30th we sign this 474 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:48,560 letter and submit it to liquor control and that way they get it by the 31st he 475 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:54,400 gets almost all the way till the end of the month and we're still within the 476 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,560 statutory requirement of March 31st. I mean that would work, wouldn't it? 477 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,119 It's within your discretion as council to handle it in that way if you choose 478 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,440 to do so. >> Okay. All right. I'd get ready to write 479 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,440 because I'm gonna I'm gonna make a motion. 480 00:37:03,839 --> 00:37:09,440 » And it would be a resolution, not a letter. So the resolution that's in your 481 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,960 agenda packets would need to be submitted to liquor control in order to 482 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:15,839 make the recommendation. >> Right. Okay. Okay. So I'm I'm ready to 483 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,119 make the motion and this is what it's going to be. And I don't know I I 484 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:23,119 haven't pulled the audience yet so I don't know if this if we even have the 485 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:28,240 votes for this. Uh my motion is to give uh Oak Park Social until March 29th to 486 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:32,720 come current on these delinquent bills. If at that point in time he has not come 487 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:37,920 current by close of business March 29, then on March 30 we sign this resolution 488 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:43,040 and submit it to liquor control. If he comes current after that, then obviously 489 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:47,119 we can reach out and withdraw it or however it is that we fix it. But I'm 490 00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:50,960 saying he has until March 29th to pay, close the business. If he doesn't, then 491 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:56,320 we on March 30th, we sign this resolution and submit it to liquor 492 00:37:52,560 --> 00:38:00,079 control. And that's my motion. >> Question. 493 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:05,359 » Is there a second to the motion first? >> I had a question, but uh 494 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:09,760 do we have a second to the motion? >> I'll second. 495 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:14,079 » Okay. A question. Council member Crawford. 496 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:20,480 » So, two questions. The business owner asked for the 31st to make payment. 497 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:25,520 Correct. And this motion will be giving him till the 29th which will be raising 498 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:29,839 it. >> Right. 499 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,440 » Okay. I just wanted clarity. >> What was the question? 500 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,920 » He asked he said that he would bring all utilities and taxes 501 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,839 » current by the 31st. But with the motion that you just put in, 502 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:43,520 » right, >> we're requesting them to be come current 503 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:48,640 by the 29th >> because I'm also trying to be cognizant 504 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:52,960 of the city administration's needs to be able to sign the resolution and get it 505 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,640 into liquor control by the 31st, which is the statutory date it has to be in 506 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,880 by. So, we can't give them all the way until the 31st. We could do until the 507 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:05,599 30th, but then our our city only has one day to get it done. This way, it gives 508 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,800 them two. And if we if we vote no on this because I don't I don't think he's 509 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:13,359 going to let his business >> He's not. No, there's no way he will. 510 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,480 » So if we vote no on this, how long additional is that additional year? 511 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,599 » It gets signed. It gets signed right now. The resolution gets signed and 512 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,160 submitted. >> We would have to approve the the the 513 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,480 resolution, >> right? If somebody makes the motion that 514 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,920 it passes, right? >> Madam Mayor, may I ask a question? 515 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:34,880 » Please. Um, when he indicated he was going to make payment, does he mean on 516 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:40,160 the water bill, the storm water bill, um, the utility bills too, not just the 517 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:43,839 taxes, or does or was that up to interpretation? How did he how did he 518 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,800 say he was going to what did he say he was going to pay? 519 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160 » He >> I thought he said everything, but my 520 00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:52,079 motion >> communication that I received at 655 521 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:55,040 said all bills is the way he referenced it. 522 00:39:52,400 --> 00:40:00,160 » So, almost like a little over 10 grand. >> Um, yeah. 4 Not that much. 523 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,839 » 17. >> Yeah. 524 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,320 » 11 or 12. >> Oh, yeah. No, actually it's more than 10 525 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:08,520 grand. >> A little bit over 10 grand. 600. 526 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:14,960 » But he did and he didn't pay his property taxes last year. 527 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:21,160 » Correct. >> So that's why this $5,000 number is 528 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,160 higher. Right. Okay. 529 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:29,440 » Any further questions? 530 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:34,800 Are we ready to vote on Councilman? >> One further question, Madame Mayor. 531 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,480 Sorry, >> one further question. Did he indicate 532 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,480 last year to us that he was going to pay? 533 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:52,160 » Okay. Well, I'm just going to say this. Um, this has been an ongoing battle, 534 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:56,400 I'll call it. Yeah. Every year we go through this. There's two properties in 535 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,760 question. one in front of you tonight, but there's another property, too, where 536 00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:03,000 we have the same battle >> every year. 537 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,760 » I'm I'm seeking to give the guy two weeks to pay. 538 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:17,040 That's it. I think it's a fair I think it's a fair uh splitting the baby. 539 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:22,000 That's what I do. I'm Solomon. I split the baby. 540 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:27,599 » Further comments, questions? I I'd like to come up. Mayor, 541 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:35,760 » mayor prom Julie Edgar. >> Um I I have patronized Oak Park Social 542 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:41,920 um and have been looking forward to um the Mexican restaurant next door to 543 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:46,960 open. I don't like the idea of taking away uh a license because I think that 544 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:51,760 would spell the end of his businesses. I'm not sure what else he would do. At 545 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:58,560 the same time, as the city attorney pointed out, um we renew these licenses 546 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:03,119 every year and businesses pay the fee. They pay what they're supposed to pay. 547 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:07,674 We as residents, we also pay our property taxes, our personal property 548 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:12,079 taxes, and our >> [clears throat] 549 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:19,520 » utility bills. So, um, while I I feel for him and I don't want to see Oak Park 550 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:24,079 Social or Salude, uh, die, I also feel that, um, 551 00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:30,560 you know, we we had a problem with him last year. He didn't pay. And, um, I 552 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:36,160 sort of feel like, should we really be doing this? Um, should we give him a 553 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,319 pass when we don't do it for anybody else? Well, that's my concern. 554 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,319 any responses or >> it's a reasonable concern. 555 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,359 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 556 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:57,040 » Every every point that's been made I think has been valid. My my my approach 557 00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:01,119 is give them till the 29th to pay. If not, turn it into the liquor control. 558 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,560 That's it. >> Council member Crawford, did you have a 559 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,040 comment? I'm just on the fence with this because as he stated, 560 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:13,599 if he does not pay, he's going to be responsible for the penalties and fees. 561 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:20,400 He's not going to let his business go into default. 562 00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:28,480 he may need additional time to um manage his cash flow and by 563 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:35,040 um and once again he has like he said if you check with public public uh ser you 564 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:40,480 know um our our public service he's not never had any issues any problems under 565 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:45,200 age so I'm kind of really on the fence about sending this 566 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,880 recommendation for non-renewal um I think he made valid points about 567 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,720 managing his cash flow. Even though I know that we do have this ordinance in 568 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:56,960 place, I just know that if something happened 569 00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:02,160 by the 31st and he's unable to pay that, he would we, you know, he could possibly 570 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:08,079 lose his this business. So, I think it just needs to be considered. 571 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:13,599 » Madame Mayor, one more question. Council member uh Sean Whitehead. So 572 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:19,119 » we got his storm water water and sewer bill at 4,6610. 573 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,319 When's the last time he's paid a water bill? Does anybody know? 574 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:32,040 » I believe it was last April. >> So around this time when he came in last 575 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,040 time. 576 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,280 it off. 577 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,440 » Was it paid to zero at that time? >> Yes. 578 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:59,960 » We ready to vote? 579 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:10,920 Madame Mayor, I uh I'm not so sure that I got a second for for 580 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,920 » There was Okay, thank you. 581 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:25,839 » Okay, this is the vote to extend the deadline for him 582 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,960 till March 29th. >> It wouldn't be an extension. Yeah, it's 583 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:33,200 not released. It's it's we're giving him till the 29th to pay all these bills. If 584 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:39,359 he doesn't pay by the 29th, then on the 30th, then by the 30th, we um sign this 585 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:45,960 resolution and submit it to liquor control. 586 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,960 » Yeah. Are we ready? 587 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,440 » And we start with Council Member Crawford. 588 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,880 No. >> Mayor Prom Edgar. 589 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,680 » No. >> Mayor Mlen. 590 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,240 » No. >> Council member Radner. 591 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,480 » Does it matter if I vote yes? >> Yes, sir. 592 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:16,880 » And council member Whitehead? >> No. 593 00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:22,240 » Okay. Now, we need um a recommendation to send the recommendation to the 594 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:27,839 Michigan Liquor Control Commission for the non-renewal of the class C liquor 595 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:31,400 license issued to Oak Park Social. Is there a motion? 596 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,359 » So moved. >> Is there a second? 597 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,760 » Second. >> Second. Uh we've had discussion. Roll 598 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,760 call, please. 599 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:56,079 Mayor Prom Edgar, >> yes. 600 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,800 » Mayor Mlen, >> yes. 601 00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:01,680 » Council member Radner, >> no. 602 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,960 » Council member Whitehead, >> no. 603 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:07,680 » Council member Crawford, >> no. 604 00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:11,440 » No. >> How can we not pass either one of them, 605 00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:15,200 folks? What do you want to do? 606 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,160 » Well, >> democracy at work. 607 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,040 » Uh, >> he gets he gets a he gets till as long 608 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,359 as he wants. >> Well, next year he's going we're going 609 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,560 to have a remedy through the county, right? 610 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,319 » Say it again. >> Next year we would have a remedy through 611 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,839 the county. Right. >> What would be the remedy next year? 612 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:40,880 » Misses for three years. Right. >> Right. 613 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:44,560 » Madam Mayor, if I could Yes. So if if non-payment of property taxes, they 614 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:48,720 would roll to the they would go into foreclosure after the missing three 615 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,960 years of payment. So that's what you're referring to. 616 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:57,839 Okay. Council members 13B1 is a resolution 617 00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:01,520 authorizing the city assessor to prepare special assessment rules assessing 618 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:05,280 unpaid charges together with a 10% penalty on private property for 619 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,280 delinquent utilities in the amount of $495,494.65. 620 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:16,720 Bolts alarms for $550, miscellaneous concrete replacement for 621 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:21,000 $2,932.93 and property blight for $24,334.17. 622 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,480 » So moved. >> Second. 623 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,079 » Any discussion, questions? 624 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,839 » Uh, do we need a roll call? All those in favor, please say I. 625 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,440 » I. >> I. 626 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:48,000 » Any opposed? Motion carried. >> Okay. And then 13B2 is a resolution 627 00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:53,440 receiving special assessment roles and establishing April 8th, 2026 as the date 628 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:57,599 for h public hearing on the roles for unpaid charges for city expenses 629 00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:02,880 incurred on private premises for delinquent utilities number 731. False 630 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:08,800 alarms number 732. Miscellaneous concrete replacement number 733. and 631 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:11,520 property blight number 734. >> So moved. 632 00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:14,880 » Oh, the date's April 6th. Council members correction there. It's actually 633 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,319 April 6th >> instead of April 8th 634 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:23,000 » because the meeting changed. >> Oh god. Right. 635 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,000 » All right. So moved. 636 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:29,520 » Second. >> Um 637 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:34,559 all those in favor please say I. >> Any opposed? Motion carried. 638 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:38,319 » Elevate Oak Park. Finally, some good news. 639 00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:44,880 » Yes. Okay. So, 13C1 council members is our regular uh monthly Elevate Oak Park 640 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:48,800 update tonight. I would like to bring your attention to the screen and I'm 641 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:53,200 going to turn it over to our esteemed colleague, Mr. David Doster, to go 642 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:57,040 through an update about the Oak Park Event Hub and Banshell project, which 643 00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:00,319 I'm very excited to see is coming along nicely. 644 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,599 » Good evening, Mayor, Council, City Man Tongate. Uh like the city manager said, 645 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,480 we made we've been making making tremendous progress. Um we've 646 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:10,559 [clears throat] hit some of our milestones. You can see from the outside 647 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,319 the building uh how much progress has been made. For the most part at this 648 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,280 point, the crews are inside the building. So you can see in the picture 649 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:22,880 here, some of the windows on the outside, the very top translucent panels 650 00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:26,880 are installed. Um you can't see it from this picture, but the garage doors have 651 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,880 been installed. We still have some plastic on the outside, so you can't 652 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:36,160 quite see it. Um, but the overhead door motors, chains, and safety assemblies 653 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:40,160 are all installed. The linear metal ceiling, as you can see here by the uh 654 00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:45,839 steel framing, is currently being installed. Interior painting, epoxy 655 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:50,480 floors, ceilings are all being installed, and electrical is finishing 656 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:53,839 up. So, we've been making uh a lot of good progress. We're really waiting for 657 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:58,000 the weather to break at this point. We've scheduled crews to finish the 658 00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:02,160 underground, finish the grass, finish the painting, all the work that happens 659 00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:07,599 in the outside. Um, we're really just waiting for the weather to break. So, as 660 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:11,839 you know, we have some events scheduled uh late this fiscal year and we are 661 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:17,280 doing our best to make sure we meet those dates. So, happy to answer any 662 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:20,160 questions you may have. Um Dave, I want to take this opportunity um just to 663 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,359 announce and we're going to have much more information coming on this, but on 664 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,520 June 30th, we are going to have our state of the city address along with our 665 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:31,440 ribbon cutting for the event hub. And we're hoping to have all of this in 666 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:34,559 place at that time. And we're currently, council members, working on some of the 667 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,960 audiovisisual elements, which are much more expensive 668 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:43,599 than I wanted them to be, but we'll be back to talk to you about that 669 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:48,640 » on April 6. Thank you for the good news. Coming 670 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:52,400 soon. >> There there's another I wanted to point 671 00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:54,800 out there's another rendering of the garage doors from the inside looking out 672 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,359 there. >> Oh, 673 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:01,599 » and then Dave, that ceiling will have the ceiling right there will have a wood 674 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,880 veneer attached to it. Correct. >> So, they're currently working on the 675 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,960 band shell right now with Yeah, it similar. It's very close to the the 676 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:11,680 metal ceiling inside. little bit different because it's more for 677 00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:16,400 acoustics. But the outside right now, you'll see where that plywood is. It's 678 00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:21,280 starting to be wrapped in the um I forget the I think it's an oak wood 679 00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:24,079 finish on the outside of the bandell. So you can see that tomorrow if you look 680 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:28,480 out there. >> Okay. And then Dave, if you could So a 681 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:33,680 lot of progress has been made, council members, for those of you who were able 682 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:37,839 to attend the tours last week um out in we we visited a couple of community 683 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:41,520 centers out in the metro area. one in the city of Troy and then the other in 684 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:46,079 Mcome Township. I thought those were very helpful uh in terms of giving us 685 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,200 ideas for our community center, but Dave, could you give us an update where 686 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,280 we're at in the construction progress? >> Sure. 687 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,200 » Everything else going into that? >> Sure. 688 00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:57,760 » And demolition, too. >> Yep. So, we are currently meeting weekly 689 00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:02,800 with our design team to work on what we call schematic design. Um to the city 690 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:07,359 manager's point, we did meet and tour two much larger facilities last week. 691 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:10,720 However, we knew that going in. We were really looking at some of the amenities 692 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:15,040 that they provide to their residents and really the size of their pool facility 693 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,960 and the size of the gymnasiums uh closely mimic what we're looking for our 694 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,800 community center. So, we're actively in the design phase. We are looking to 695 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,200 schedule a public engagement session with our residents to update them uh on 696 00:53:25,359 --> 00:53:32,000 the progress and we'll be making a presentation to city council as well in 697 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:36,720 the next um I'd say four to six weeks. So, that is moving along very quick. um 698 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,960 and staying on schedule with that. Uh the demolition, 699 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,880 last meeting we did award the demolition to a contractor. Currently, we're just 700 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:48,319 waiting on some frost laws and things and the weather to change. Uh Dan 701 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:53,440 Fairless is working with them on getting sewer caps taken care of, getting uh 702 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:58,480 electrical services decommissioned, gas services retired and things. So, I would 703 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:02,480 say early April, we're thinking that we should start seeing some progress on the 704 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:07,800 demolitions on this site. >> Fantastic. Council members, are there 705 00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,800 any questions? 706 00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:12,480 » We're amazed. >> A lot going on. Lot going on. 707 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,559 » All of this wonderful new stuff is coming to Oak Park. 708 00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:22,000 » Dave, thank you so much. Um before I I turn it back over, council members, I do 709 00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:27,040 want to just um extend uh deep uh gratitude for our public safety 710 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:32,800 department who assisted in the uh West Bloomfield um terror attack. Uh, 711 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:38,880 Director Cooper and your team um really were on site doing a phenomenal job as 712 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:43,119 always. Um, not easy circumstances and you guys as always handled it with grace 713 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:48,400 and I very much appreciate it. >> Um, with that that finishes the city 714 00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:55,200 manager report. Council members, >> thank you. 715 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:58,800 » Um, next we have call to the audience. Okay, for call to the audience. 716 00:54:57,307 --> 00:55:03,040 [clears throat] Each speaker's remarks are a matter of public record. The 717 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,599 speaker is responsible for his or her comments, and the city of Oak Park does 718 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:12,720 not support, endorse, or accept the content as being true or accurate. 719 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,040 Any person while being heard at a city council meeting may be called to order 720 00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:21,599 by the chair or any council member for failure to be gerine to the business of 721 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:26,880 the city, vulgarity, or personal attacks on persons or institutions. And there's 722 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:29,880 a threem minute time limit for speaking 13. 723 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:43,440 » None of you want to speak. Mayor >> no [clears throat] talk. Um Gregory Gun. 724 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:49,960 Um please come up. He is our city historian. 725 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,960 You have a few words for us. 726 00:55:52,799 --> 00:56:00,520 Good evening everyone. >> Oh, if you come to um so the people at 727 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:00,520 home can hear you too. 728 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:07,520 » Sometimes I feel like I don't need a microphone. 729 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:12,960 Um like to say good evening to everyone is here. Uh I'd like to acknowledge the 730 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:18,640 mayor, the mayor pro 10, uh the city clerk, and the city manager, city 731 00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:23,359 council as a whole. It's uh wonderful to be here tonight and I appreciate uh the 732 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,280 mayor for calling me. I was at an out outing out in Clinton Township and 733 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:32,559 looked at my phone and there was the mayor's name. So, she uh invited me to 734 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:38,559 be here tonight and I found out from talking to her on the uh telephone that 735 00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:41,839 uh she said, "Well, are you willing to accept a second term as being a 736 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:47,520 historian?" And I was so amazed and I said, "Yes." So, I appreciate her giving 737 00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:51,680 me the opportunity of uh uh serving another two-year term as uh the 738 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:57,040 historian of the city of Oak Park. I'm very proud and the uh the office has 739 00:56:54,319 --> 00:57:02,960 really been uh been a joy to me. A lot of research has been going on. Um uh the 740 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:08,720 library has been so kind to let me use a lot of the uh historical um events that 741 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:13,680 have taken place in Oak Park. I think I went back as far as the maybe the late 742 00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:19,359 1950s, you know, just looking through things and um it's amazing that um 743 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:25,760 sometimes I reminisce, you know, cuz I found out history is not history only of 744 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:32,079 the past, but it's also the present and the future. And uh especially when I was 745 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:35,520 looking through a lot of the artifacts, uh for some reason or another, I was 746 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,880 just like sitting there and I was just looking through all this. And for some 747 00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:44,400 some reason or another, I felt like I was going back in time because I know as 748 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:51,599 a as a youth, I remember some of those times, you know, but it was just it's 749 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:56,079 it's like I put myself in that time. And I do that sometime. And I even tell some 750 00:57:53,280 --> 00:58:00,640 of my friends, I said, uh, I remember watching, uh, what was that TV show, um, 751 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,079 with Steve Burkel? He had a pressure chamber, 752 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:07,200 » Family Matters. >> There you go. Right. And, um, he he once 753 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:12,480 he went inside the chamber, he'd come out as somebody else, you know, 754 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:18,000 » Stefan Rale, right? [laughter] But I said to myself, I said, if I had 755 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:22,480 the opportunity, if I could, I I wish that I had a time machine, and I would 756 00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:26,079 love to go in that time machine and go back to a certain time and see how 757 00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:31,440 things were, whether it was in the 1930s, 758 00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:37,359 uh 40s, 50s, 60s, what have you. And uh and also it was just a joy that uh Oak 759 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:44,640 Park celebrated its 80th uh anniversary as a city 1945 last year. And it was a 760 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:48,960 joy. And um I think um I don't know if Bernie's here or not, but uh he said uh 761 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:54,079 are you going to do the presidents again? And I think one of the city 762 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:58,160 council people asked me what I do the presidential all the presidents in order 763 00:58:56,079 --> 00:59:03,040 again. And I said, well, they probably heard me do that already, you know. So I 764 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:07,359 just said, maybe I'll just do the uh I can do the governors from 19, you know, 765 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:13,599 since it's been 80 years, I can go back 80 years and do the governors. So I can 766 00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:21,359 just start off with uh um Murray Van Wagner uh that was 1941 to 1943. Then 767 00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:27,119 you had Harry F. Kelly who was 1943 to 1947. Goodness gracious. 768 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:32,240 » Then you had um Kim Sigler. He was 1947 to 1949. And at this time uh the 769 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:37,440 governors only served a two-year term. That changed uh down the line. And then 770 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:43,119 you had uh the gentleman that they used to call Sophie Williams, G. Mini 771 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:47,440 Williams. He was governor uh from 1949 to 1961. 772 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:52,480 Then you had uh the only lieutenant governor that we've ever had that I know 773 00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:57,440 of in modern times that actually made it to the governorship and that was John 774 00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:01,520 Swainson and he served from 1961 to 1963. 775 00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:06,480 Then we had that automobile executive George Romney 776 01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:11,359 1963 to 1969. And uh we had uh the the I think he was 777 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:16,640 the first governor that I finally met and I thought he was a splendid governor 778 01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:24,240 uh William Milikin and he served from 1969 to 1983. Then we had Jim Blanchard 779 01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:29,680 from 1983 to 1991. Then we had John Ingler 1991 to 2003. That was a long 780 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:34,799 time. >> And then we had our first female 781 01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:43,920 governor. That was Jennifer Granholm. And she served from uh 200 782 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:50,559 3 to 2011. Then we had Rick Snder 2011 to 2019. And then who do we have 783 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:56,079 right now that's getting ready to leave? >> That's right. Let's say it. 784 01:00:53,680 --> 01:01:00,240 » Gresian Whitney. So those are the governors over the past 785 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:04,167 80 years and I thank you for this time and I look forward to [applause] 786 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:15,280 I look forward to uh being with you all again and doing whatever I can doing 787 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:19,440 research hanging around the neighborhood uh talking to seniors talking to young 788 01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:23,160 people and uh it's just been a blessing. So again thank you 789 01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:31,559 Are we doing pictures? >> Yes. 790 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,599 Everybody smile. 791 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,040 One more 792 01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:02,920 boyfriend. 793 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:18,039 I invited to come up and take my pastor 794 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:35,720 and his wife. would like to be part of picture. 795 01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:58,520 I would love for them to come up. Tony and Karen come up 796 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,640 here. 797 01:04:04,894 --> 01:04:06,914 [laughter] 798 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:20,440 Come on. Come on. 799 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:41,799 ready. 800 01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:59,839 » Smile. 801 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,240 Great job. 802 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:41,839 All righty. >> We ever going to get home tonight? I 803 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:46,400 could use a drink. >> Go get myself a mocktail. 804 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:49,920 » Madam, [clears throat] >> did you just say mock? 805 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,119 » Mocktail. Mocktail. There was somebody who came up here 806 01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:57,200 once. >> There are um Yep. City clerk Norris, 807 01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:04,520 would you call? >> Um yeah, we we have some more speakers. 808 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,520 Uh Michael uh Disc. 809 01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:09,799 » This guy used to be my neighbor. 810 01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:16,960 » I just I just want to say after my time, I am also available for any photo ops 811 01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:23,200 that anybody would [laughter] >> like. He's he's also a rapper. 812 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:27,920 » Uh yes, uh Jupac Jupac for the record. I just like that on the record. Um 813 01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:32,400 » honorable members, I would love to mention everybody in particular, but 814 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:38,240 respect and honor to all up there. Thank you very much for all you do for our 815 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:42,799 city. Um I actually kind of wanted to before I get to my list, um I don't 816 01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:47,039 really fully I didn't fully follow exactly what the situation with Oak Park 817 01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:50,880 Social was. Uh, I trust you guys to do what's right for us. I would like to 818 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:55,839 point out, uh, I think this is a teachable moment. I see these wonderful 819 01:06:52,880 --> 01:07:02,160 young ladies here. Um, I don't want to disparrage anybody, but I think there's 820 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:07,839 a way to act and to present ourselves. And I don't believe that the gentleman 821 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:12,319 from Oak Park Social did a good job of setting a good example of that. I know 822 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:17,599 he's worried about his business and I can respect that. But 823 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:23,039 again, there's a way to carry yourself, especially if you are asking something 824 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:28,720 of someone. It's generally not a good idea to be aggressive with them and 825 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:32,480 confrontational with them. So, you might not all be fully understanding what 826 01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:37,119 we're talking about at the moment, but it'll sink in at some point. So, just 827 01:07:35,359 --> 01:07:43,920 please pay attention that to everybody here and how everybody acted. Uh again 828 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:49,680 my name is Michael Diskin 15075 Lincoln Street apartment 406 Oak Park Michigan 829 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:54,000 48237. So unfortunately I'm well familiar with Oak Park public safety as 830 01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:59,440 we see them all the time at the towers. Um and thank you for what you guys did 831 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:03,039 and your part in uh helping with Temple Israel. I actually do teach at Temple 832 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:08,599 Israel. I was not there. Thank God on that day. I teach on Excuse 833 01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:08,599 [clears throat] me. 834 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:21,839 I [clears throat] sorry I I do I I do teach on Sundays. Um 835 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:27,040 sorry let me just collect myself for a second. Um just one more thing sorry 836 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:33,600 about the behavior. Uh yesterday I believe was the birthday of Supreme 837 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:38,799 Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is no longer with us. I don't know if young 838 01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:44,400 ladies know who Ruth Bader Ginsburg is, but at some point I would really 839 01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:48,640 recommend finding out who she was. She was 840 01:08:46,719 --> 01:08:57,040 I can't even explain her greatness. She was the second female Supreme Court 841 01:08:51,440 --> 01:09:03,759 justice ever. And she not only was wise, but she carried herself with such grace. 842 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:09,440 And I've never heard one single person ever say anything bad about her. When 843 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:14,319 someone asked her a question, even though 99% of the time she was smarter 844 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:18,080 than anybody she was talking to. Oh, shoot. Three. 845 01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:20,880 » Three. It's okay. >> Finish your sentence. 846 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,880 » Okay. Um, she took a moment to compose herself, to 847 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:31,120 think about what she was going to say, and then, you know, she proceeded. So, 848 01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:36,239 thank you to the council for for those watching. City council listens. [cough] 849 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:41,520 I contacted most of the members up here about my feelings on the car wash. Some 850 01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:48,719 responded. I felt validated and listened to. Thank you for that. Uh I just want 851 01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:53,920 to talk quickly about um about community, right? Oak Park is the family 852 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:59,120 city. I'll be 52 years old, God willing, in August. Uh, aside from some time at 853 01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:04,560 Michigan State and a few other cities, I was born in well technically Royal Oak, 854 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:10,960 but I born and raised in Oak Park and this is such a wonderful city. And what 855 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:17,679 happened at Temple Israel on Thursday was obviously evil, but immediately with 856 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:22,159 all of the first responders and everybody who came to help the 857 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:26,400 Calaldian-American community who opened up literally opened up their doors and 858 01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:31,679 every all the neighbors who opened up their doors. Uh we really are in this 859 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:36,000 thing together on a city level, on a state level. So um yeah, there's that. 860 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:40,560 And then one more thing because I know I'm already over time. I just uh I know 861 01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:44,880 I contacted you guys about the safety issue and about presenting certain 862 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:51,120 things to El Carwash, but on this past Sabbath, I was crossing Greenfield in 863 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:56,000 the crosswalk in the light and there was a car that was literally blocking the 864 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,840 crosswalk. They'd pulled up so much that they were 865 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:02,480 literally blocking the crosswalk. And when we went by, the person rolled down 866 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,920 their window and they were on their phone, which ladies, it's illegal to be 867 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,800 using your phone in your hand, but they they just weren't paying attention. So, 868 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:16,000 I just wanted to make a public plea, and this is it, I promise, to public safety 869 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:20,560 and our council, whatever way we can. It is tough to be a pedestrian on the 870 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:24,560 stretch specifically of Greenfield or along 10 mile. If there's something we 871 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:28,800 can do, a public public awareness campaign or something, it's it's really 872 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:34,239 a problem. I know two people who have been hit trying to cross that street. As 873 01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:37,360 someone who walks it, I'm scared, you know, to do that. So, if there's 874 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,080 something that we can do, I would I would appreciate it if we could do that. 875 01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:44,239 Thank you. >> Thank you for your kind words and 876 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:47,640 suggestions. >> Crystal Bailey 877 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:07,600 Good evening. Thank you. Welcome. Um, good evening. I'm Crystal Bailey. Good 878 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:14,719 evening, audience. And you, uh, Girl Scouts look amazing. You all look great. 879 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:21,440 You're welcome. You're welcome. Uh, I just want to say our taxes are too high. 880 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:28,480 Our taxes are too high. As a business owner and a homeowner, 881 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:33,280 I understand what this homeowner, this business owner was talking about. Our 882 01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:38,800 the storm water runoff is more than our usage when we were 883 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:45,360 talking about our water bills. We are driving people out of our community 884 01:12:41,679 --> 01:12:52,880 because of our taxes. My taxes has increased nearly $400. I have an escrow 885 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:59,520 shortage of nearly $4,000. My mortgage next month is increasing. 886 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:06,000 April one, I'm going to have a new mortgage amount to pay. 887 01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:12,560 I've been here since 1998. I graduated from Oak Park High School. 888 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:17,280 I don't want to leave my community, but it's getting harder and harder to 889 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:24,159 afford to live here. Last time I was at a city council meeting, I asked you all, 890 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:28,800 "If we can't get this money to finish this project, 891 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:35,440 where is it going to come from? Are you coming after the community members, the 892 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:41,280 taxpayers again to cover this cost?" city manager said that well you we may 893 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:47,040 have to have a lawsuit to go after this money but in the meantime of a lawsuit 894 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:52,000 to get this money what who's going to who pockets there are going to come out 895 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:56,159 of we can't continue to drive our people our comm our constituents our community 896 01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:01,440 members out of our community because of property taxes 897 01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:07,520 I'm Crystal Bailey and I'm here as an advocate for all the constituents in Oak 898 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:12,360 park on our property taxes. Something has to happen. Thank you, 899 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,960 » Ken Sherman. 900 01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:35,760 » I don't know. Good evening, Ken Sherman 23840 Jerome 901 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:40,880 and Oak Park. Um, after listening to the owner of Oak Park Social and the back 902 01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:46,159 and forth with city council, I just wanted to give my two cents as a 903 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:52,640 resident, um, as was mentioned, this business has had an ongoing issue with 904 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:56,880 paying their bills or whatever. I remember when he came before the city 905 01:14:54,480 --> 01:15:03,920 council a couple years back and he was having issues with refrigeration needing 906 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:10,400 new coolers and and and whatnot. And as was mentioned, if I as a private citizen 907 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:18,320 cannot pay my water bills and other bills, my water gets turned off. I don't 908 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:23,360 get the luxury of having a ride for a year or whatever without paying my 909 01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:29,760 utilities plus whatever other bills this gentleman has incurred. And two weeks 910 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:34,800 before he's up to pay, he's here pleading his case. I don't know if it's 911 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:41,679 a lack of financial mismanagement and he has a second business in the uh 11 mile 912 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:48,320 social district. I don't understand. But for him to come before you and plead 913 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:53,440 hardship and make you the hard guys and it's your responsibility to bail him 914 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:58,880 out, I just don't understand. I think he needs to get a CPA or somebody that can 915 01:15:56,239 --> 01:16:04,880 help him manage his budget in order to meet his business needs instead of 916 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:12,239 crying on the shoulders of uh city council. I just don't understand where 917 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,239 he's coming from. Thank you. 918 01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:22,719 That's it. Um, thank you. That's the end of the um 919 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:28,440 call to the audience. Now we are on call to the council. 920 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:28,440 Um, 921 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:39,840 first I'm I'm thrilled that our public safety department was able to come to 922 01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:46,880 the aid of West Bloomfield Township when um when they had that horrible event 923 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:52,960 happen that we all pulled together and that was heart heartwarming. Another sad 924 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:58,719 thing, today we mourn together with Huntington Woods, our sister city, with 925 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:04,480 whom we share professional, personal, and geographic ties. 926 01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:11,840 We extend condolences to the beautiful family of Doug Jamal, to his friends, 927 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:17,920 his co-workers, and to all the residents who came to know him. For those who 928 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:23,199 haven't heard, Doug was out during the high winds. He he worked for DPW, 929 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:28,640 Department of Public Works in Huntington Woods, and he was doing his job clearing 930 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:33,120 out a tree that had fallen across the street. 931 01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:39,520 when when the wind came along and blew another branch down that killed him 932 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:44,640 while he was working. All of our outside personnel, our public 933 01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:53,600 safety officers, our DPW officers 934 01:17:48,159 --> 01:18:00,000 um are involved in risky jobs. Police and fire get publicity, but our 935 01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:06,640 nonuniformed employees cheerfully provide services that keep our city 936 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:12,400 safe. We appreciate you all and pray that you stay safe. 937 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:17,120 Thank you, Mayor Prom Julie Edgar. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I also want to 938 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:23,280 echo the mayor's sentiments and thank our public safety department, Director 939 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:27,280 Cooper, for coming to the aid of um the other officers who were at the scene at 940 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:31,520 Temple, Israel. I hope that they do the same for us. Uh, should anything 941 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:38,000 terrible like that happen. Let's hope it does not. Um, so thank you. Um, also I 942 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:42,239 wanted to [clears throat] let these Girl Scouts know that I did buy cookies from 943 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:47,040 you and I put on about 10 pounds. I'm not happy. 944 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:52,480 Okay. I'm not happy, but um but they were delicious. And so, thank you. Um 945 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:56,880 and thank you all for coming. Good night. 946 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:59,760 » That's cute. Uh Council Member Radner. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Thank you all 947 01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:03,280 for coming out. Thank you for your interest in the process. And young 948 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:07,199 ladies, I do have a very important question for you that I really wish one 949 01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:11,040 of you would have addressed during call to audience. It's a question that I 950 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:15,120 have. I think this is a question a lot of us have and frankly it's a question 951 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:18,630 that we deserve the answer to. Why are some of you wearing green vests and some 952 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:22,320 of you wearing other color vests? [laughter] I'm really curious about 953 01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:29,239 that. I don't know if we're allowed to let them answer, but I'm really curious. 954 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,239 » We will uh 955 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,920 Very cool. Thank you for the explanation. 956 01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:49,360 » Thank you for the courage to speak out. >> And just one last thing that I want to 957 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:53,040 say is last night I got a very special gift from a very special person and I 958 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:57,199 want to acknowledge and recognize her and that's my little daughter Adena made 959 01:19:55,040 --> 01:20:05,159 me this little bracelet here >> and I am very proud of it. 960 01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:05,159 » Lovely. Council member Whitehead, 961 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:11,600 » something said um at this meeting that was like we can either be a business 962 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:15,120 city or a people city. I I I don't agree with that. I think we could be both. I 963 01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:18,320 think that that's what a community is. You got to have businesses to have a 964 01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:22,080 community. You got to have people that want to go into those businesses. And so 965 01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:26,080 what we try to do here is just weigh all the balances. I I didn't like the call 966 01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:30,159 we we made tonight. I'll be honest. It's one that I just didn't like cuz 967 01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:34,080 everybody's right. you should pay your bills and you should pay them on time. 968 01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:38,880 Um, but what what are we gonna do if that if his business flops over 10 969 01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,800 grand? I mean, so we just make the best decision we can up 970 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:46,080 here, but we are doing this for the community. We are doing this for the 971 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,800 people. Um, and you got to have businesses cuz there's places that you 972 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:53,440 want to go out to eat. There's places that you want to get your car washed at 973 01:20:51,679 --> 01:20:56,880 or, you know, maybe too early for that one for after the last couple weeks. 974 01:20:55,440 --> 01:21:02,320 » That is way too early. >> Have a good night everybody. [laughter] 975 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:08,159 I got the laugh of the evening. Council member uh Crawford, 976 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:13,040 » um I just want to say that um our hearts and prayers, I know I can speak for all 977 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:17,120 of my colleagues up here and um they're just with the congregation of Temple 978 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:24,159 Israel because they're healing right now. Um I just uh feel as we all that no 979 01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:29,520 one should have fear while they're attending school or worship. They should 980 01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:33,600 not have to fear that. So, um, I just wanted to say I I know that I stand with 981 01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:39,040 our Jewish community, condemn all acts of violence, and my prayers are out for 982 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:44,960 the congregation who is healing at this time. Um, I want to thank the Girl 983 01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:49,360 Scouts for coming. I was a Girl Scout >> and I loved being a Girl Scout. Um, so, 984 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:55,440 thank you for coming. You, you ladies are beautiful. Um, I also wanted to 985 01:21:52,480 --> 01:22:00,000 acknowledge once again um our elected official Don Cochran. Thank is it Copin 986 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:05,360 or Cochran? >> Corpin. Um, that's a hard job and 987 01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:11,520 especially right now. So, thank you for all you do. And finally, um, reminding 988 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:15,280 everyone this Friday, Oak Park, they have a charity vet. Anyone up here on 989 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:20,721 that team? >> Oh, don't embarrass us. City manager, 990 01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:24,639 » don't embarrass us. So, right there. [laughter] 991 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:29,280 » Um they're having a um a charity basketball game uh at the high school. 992 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:34,480 Is it Friday night? What time is that? >> Six o'clock. I think 993 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:38,880 » six o'clock. So um come on out, support and thank everyone for coming and and 994 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:43,199 once again, as I always like to leave you with, be kind to one another. Good 995 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,080 night. >> Thank you. And 996 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:54,800 » we need >> basketball Friday six o'clock where 997 01:22:52,639 --> 01:23:01,440 » Oak Park High School. And before we close, I would like to invite the Girl 998 01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:07,639 Scouts back up here to um uh adjourn the meeting. 999 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,639 » This is the best part. 1000 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:22,719 Are you gonna do it? Okay. >> So, um 1001 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:28,159 um there is no further business to come before this council. 1002 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:35,320 » This meeting is >> this this meeting is a journ 1003 01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:35,320 » and then hit this 1004 01:23:36,048 --> 01:23:38,068 [applause] 1005 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:53,560 I was a Girl Scout, too, and I loved it. And you guys have the best leaders 1006 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,560 anywhere.