1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:10,719 Okay. Uh, welcome everybody. I'd like to, uh, call to order the, uh, Oak Point 2 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:16,880 Economic Development Corporation and Municipal Development District meeting. 3 00:00:13,599 --> 00:00:24,000 Uh, we have uh, one, two, three, four, five. So, we have a quorum. 4 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:30,320 So, we have a quorum present and we'll start the meeting at six o'clock. 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:35,440 and Mosen, would you lead us in the pledge of pledge of allegiance? 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,200 » Okay, >> Betsy, 7 00:00:36,559 --> 00:00:40,480 » you're on. >> All right. 8 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:46,079 » I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:52,399 republic for it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 10 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:58,680 justice for all. I aliance to the Texas one state 11 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,879 pledges on it next time. 12 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:16,799 » Okay, item number three. Oh, by the way, I want to welcome our new board member, 13 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 uh, Christine Brown. >> Thank you for joining us. 14 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,360 » Christine, >> CHRISTINA, I'M SORRY. 15 00:01:22,530 --> 00:01:24,550 » [applause] 16 00:01:25,439 --> 00:01:34,240 » WE'LL MOVE ON to um agenda item number three, public input. Uh it doesn't 17 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:39,280 appear anybody's here, so we're not going to have any public input tonight. 18 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:47,640 We'll move on to agenda four, consider and act upon the minutes from the July 19 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:47,640 14th, 2026 regular EDC meeting. 20 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:54,880 take a minute. Review those uh minutes and then we'll look for a motion. 21 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:58,560 » I move to approve the minutes from the July 14th regular EDC meeting. I'll 22 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:06,799 second. >> Thank you. So, we have a first by Debbie 23 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:11,160 and a second by Betsy. All in favor? >> I. Motion passes. 24 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Item number five, consider an act upon the June 2026 financial report of Ypoint 25 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,560 Economic Development Corporation. 26 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:29,920 » City Manager, please. >> Thank you. Um, you [clears throat] have 27 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,480 the information in your packet um in front of you. Uh, we are basically 28 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:40,640 coming up well, we are coming up to the end of the fiscal year. Uh so once we go 29 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:44,800 into uh our next fiscal year which uh the current year ends September 30th, 30 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:51,599 the new year begins fiscal year begins October one, you'll still see um uh some 31 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:56,800 data from the last fiscal year because our data trends a bit behind. Um 32 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:00,640 everything is trending normally. The the one item though I will will call out um 33 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:07,280 something we've discussed about or discussed in the past is you can see um 34 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:13,120 uh under um [clears throat] uh uh your expenses um professional 35 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:19,840 services we are coming up on the limit of that um we are going to have some uh 36 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:24,800 we may have another invoice or two um for the end of the fiscal year um and 37 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:29,920 depending I don't expect it to be a significant amount account. Um, but it 38 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:36,239 may require me to transfer um between line items within the budget uh to cover 39 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:41,440 it. But if it if if it does require um uh um a few extra or a few additional 40 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:47,959 dollars, I don't expect it to be a significant amount of activity dollars 41 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:47,959 based on the activities at the moment. 42 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:59,239 » Who do you anticipate those invoices coming from? our um economic development 43 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:59,239 uh consultant uh Mr. Chen Petty 44 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,080 » and there's no action required on our part to do that. you can just answer. 45 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:14,480 » I just wanted to call it out. It was an item of discussion before 46 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,479 » and since we are getting close to that upper limit 47 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:23,639 » hopefully that'll ask me to the next uh 30 days or so, but [laughter] we'll see. 48 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:32,199 » Any further discussion? Any more questions for the regarding the 49 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,199 financial report? 50 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:43,840 Okay. Nope. We're not required to act on that or approve that. So, 51 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:48,000 we'll move on to agenda item six, which is review and discuss the Oakpoint 52 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:52,639 Income Development Corporation business plan goals and strategies. 53 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:59,440 » Sure. When we last talked about this, um, uh, you all had some questions about 54 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:05,840 sort of how we were keeping tabs or measuring certain items. So, McKenzie um 55 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:10,639 has gone back and um added the wheel into that. We h we will um call out or 56 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:15,360 go through some highlights of some specific items. Happy to answer 57 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:20,240 questions on any of the items. Um I know that this is an important uh topic for 58 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:24,880 you for the EDC. We will continue to provide updates. We're going to start. 59 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,400 I'll let McKenzie kind of share some of the work that she's done, the 60 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,479 conversations that she's had, and then we'll happily answer questions. 61 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:37,440 » Sorry. >> No worries. 62 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:41,759 » Good evening everybody. Um, so basically our goals are going to start 63 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:45,919 on page 24 of the business plan packet. I know it's kind of large. Um, and so we 64 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,360 have a lot of things that are currently in process with a lot of the commercial 65 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:53,840 development that's happening within the city right now. So, we've gone in and 66 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:57,759 revised um some of essentially what we're looking at on the metric KPI side. 67 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:03,039 And so, we've made sure that we're including a lot more um in progress 68 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:07,680 aspects of that within those measures. Some of the other measures um that 69 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Councilman Wiler or I guess director Wiler in this aspect and I spoke about 70 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:19,120 um are pertaining to goal two with those really specific u metrics as a number of 71 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,520 developer agreements per month as well as number of conferences attended per 72 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:28,400 year um number of site selector events attended per year. And so really what 73 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:32,560 we're going to do um is work um as city staff to look at if those metrics are 74 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:37,600 going to be really reasonable for us to report on. Um we know that we are having 75 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:41,680 conversations with developers. However, how many times those are happening per 76 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,680 month or versus how many times those happening per quarter? What is kind of 77 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,120 the difference? And is that metric expansion going to be more feasible for 78 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,800 us in the long term when we're continuing to have all of these 79 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:57,600 developments happen? Um, some of the other goals that Councilman Director 80 00:06:55,039 --> 00:07:01,840 Wiler and I talked about specifically pertain to the EDC bylaws. That's going 81 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:05,280 to be kind of a larger project that we're undertaking with the business plan 82 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,840 just because they haven't been revised since about 2014. Um, so it's going to 83 00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:13,840 be a lot of revision, a lot of combing through happening with that here at city 84 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:18,240 hall. Um, with some staff members. I will be emailing you guys later on 85 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,680 tomorrow kind of a copy of the EDC bylaws for you guys to go through. Feel 86 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,120 free to make comments on them. and shoot them back over to me with any kind of 87 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:29,199 edits that you guys have. I definitely want you guys to have as much input and 88 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,440 say into the modernization of that as possible. On our end, what I'm going to 89 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:38,479 be doing is looking at a couple of other EDC corporations in the area and kind of 90 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:42,400 the bylaws that they've adopted. Our limit time frame wise is going to be 91 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:47,599 probably within the past five years on that, even probably going to three years 92 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:51,440 if I can find any um to really see kind of what other EDCs are focusing on in 93 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:54,960 the area. And then we're also going to be looking at some other cities that are 94 00:07:53,199 --> 00:08:00,319 similar to Oak Point and what we can offer and provide. Um, so that is going 95 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,599 to be kind of our next largest step. Um, out of all of these, I do think it's 96 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:08,000 probably the largest project that we're going to be undertaking. And then 97 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:12,960 another one that we can discuss now or do you want to discuss later? Um, so 98 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:18,080 another kind of aspect of the business plan is these EDC binders that would be 99 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:23,199 available to you guys to have here and possibly um use just kind of personally 100 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:27,280 to categorize things, organize things, make sure things are put together. I did 101 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,720 want to get some input on you guys. Um, and that can be something I include in 102 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,760 that email sending out with the EDC bylaws on what you think you would want 103 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:39,039 as an EDC director member to be included in that. Along with that, I'm also going 104 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:42,719 to be doing some of the same exact research that I talked about before and 105 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:47,839 looking at other EDC's, what they want included. Um, right now, kind of our 106 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:52,320 basis of what we're going to be putting in there is that we have some material 107 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,680 related to like commercial development. Um, it's a little bit dated. It's from 108 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:02,160 2026 of this I mean January 2026. Um, and so we are looking at seeing if we 109 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:07,040 can work with anybody to modernize that, update that a little bit before we start 110 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,800 including that. Um, other than that, we have our code of conduct that we updated 111 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,240 recently that we're going to be including in that. We also have all of 112 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,480 our boards and commissions handbook stuff that we're going to be including 113 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:23,040 in that as well. Um, other than that, I don't think we really 114 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:27,680 have anything else. So, if you guys have any kind of ideas or any kind of inputs 115 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:31,279 that you want included in that, um, feel free to let me know. Obviously, we're 116 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:35,440 going to be including some agendas in there. That way, you guys can just kind 117 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:39,360 of have it all in one place. we have a lot of um goals and metrics around 118 00:09:37,839 --> 00:09:42,720 marketing materials and brand development. So when we start kind of 119 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,959 dipping our toes in the water into that, you'll find that material available 120 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:50,320 within the binder as well. Um but that's kind of the way that we're going right 121 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:53,920 now. Any questions? 122 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:57,839 » I have a question. Absolutely. >> On the consensus building topic that you 123 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,839 talked about under the goal one. >> Yes. And you talked about like keeping 124 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:07,839 track of how many contracts and all. Is this I mean is that really a 125 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:12,480 quantifiable measure per se or is it just like the tick mark? I mean we don't 126 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,040 want to get in the business of just like >> Yeah. 127 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:18,800 » Keeping trend I mean is a five minute conversation the same as a 30 minute 128 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:22,640 discussion? >> Yes. And so there's where quantifying 129 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,079 those things get to be tough. >> Exactly. And I think that's another 130 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,800 deeper discussion that Noah and I need to have because he's really the one 131 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,480 that's having those conversations. I'm not calling me up and like, "Hey, 132 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,279 Mackenzie, I want to talk to you. Put mark in this." 133 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,480 » Yeah. Um, and so that's another discussion that we do have to have 134 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:44,240 together as staff and like what we really want to consider a conversation. 135 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:48,720 Um, another thing that Dragon did talk about is kind of expanding the 136 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:52,079 conferences and kind of like combing the internet on some conferences for EDC 137 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,920 stuff that would be available to you guys. I think are great. And we do 138 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,760 qualify for some scholarships through TML, which is the Texas Mun School 139 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:04,800 League if you're unfamiliar with that. That would provide for um members to be 140 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,480 able to get those paid for by TML. So, I'm going to be looking into some of 141 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,480 those and some other conferences. Um so that way we can just expand out our 142 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:17,920 education as much as possible. >> And just going back to to the 143 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:22,240 developers, right? I mean, you know, I think part of that conversation is do 144 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,640 you care that I had three conversations or 23 conversations or do you care that 145 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:30,800 I'm having conversations, >> right? Right. That's why I'm saying tick 146 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,399 marks, I mean, don't do much. >> Exactly. 147 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,079 » Yeah. >> As far as value added, right? Sometimes, 148 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,360 » you know, and I also think we we need to look at it too in sort of the context of 149 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:44,959 things with limited commercial opportunities. um our largest commercial 150 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,720 properties have you know very large reputable national broker bro bro bro 151 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:46,800 bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro 152 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,720 bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro brokers who 153 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,800 are doing that right >> um and so um you know 154 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:58,079 » we're kind of >> in a traditional sense you know I'm not 155 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:02,240 necessarily the first call that uh or second or third call that um a 156 00:12:00,079 --> 00:12:06,800 prospective business may be making because um of the limited area and the 157 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:11,279 fact that um they are represented by very large hooks of recorders 158 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:14,480 » that that was kind of My point was yeah, >> we're we're kind of a little unique in 159 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:17,440 some of those perspectives >> in lots of things. Yes. 160 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:21,279 » Right. Right. Everything. >> Yeah. 161 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:25,519 » That should have been a goal. [laughter] >> Recognize our uniqueness. 162 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,800 » And that goes into like the expansion of like do we really care if it's monthly 163 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,040 or do we just want to check in every quarter? 164 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,760 » Yeah. >> Okay. You know, I mean, just sorry to to 165 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:40,320 belver this, but you know, because of the limit the limitations that we have, 166 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:45,680 you know, a lot of my calls are with the same ones over and over and over again. 167 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:49,920 » Correct. Yeah. >> I think the main objective is we're just 168 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:53,680 being productive and assertive wherever, you know, 169 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,160 » proactive wherever we can be. >> Absolutely. 170 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:59,440 » And I think my staff can attest um amount of time I spend on the phone with 171 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:02,560 how much they're trying to get me for other things. He also walks [laughter] 172 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,320 around while he does it. So, it's just like a game of where's Noah? 173 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:11,200 » You need a tracker. You haven't put an Apple tracker on yet. 174 00:13:07,839 --> 00:13:16,880 » I haven't convinced him of it yet. >> Right. I know. I try to get us to do 175 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:20,720 like a city staff like walking thing for one month and I was like, no one would 176 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,440 blow us out of the water. [laughter] >> Okay. Thank you. 177 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:31,120 » Yeah, of course. So somewhere in the past we have talked 178 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:35,440 several times the EDC in in some of these joint meetings that we've had 179 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:41,800 we've talked about uh sorry turn my hearing aids off. 180 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:53,279 um about how we're going to set ourselves 181 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:59,120 apart from looking like 380 and Little M with all the different 182 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:06,079 building architectural elements if there's any way we can try to bring that 183 00:14:02,959 --> 00:14:12,959 into some consistency. And now that I see item five coming up 184 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:24,040 um on the uh development report, 185 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:24,040 you know what I what I would like to see 186 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:33,519 um is some kind of architectural consistency because I I know one of our 187 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:39,440 consultants brought out color palettes and kind of building material. samples 188 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:45,760 and tried to in institute that into the overlay district, you know, if we 189 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:50,800 possibly could. But if if we have any leverage 190 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:57,839 on any of these developers to help us create some uniformity in 191 00:14:54,959 --> 00:15:04,320 architectural elements so that when people drive down 720 they get the feel 192 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:08,880 that they're driving through a downtown area of some sort. They're some 193 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:14,480 consistency with buildings. So >> I saw that, you know, it it seems like 194 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,680 that should be somewhere in these in these goals and it may be, but I didn't 195 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:22,480 see a jump. >> Yeah, there are significant limitations 196 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:27,279 on that. Um uh the state several years ago um through legislation removed a 197 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:32,399 city's ability to sort of dictate, you know, building materials, how much, you 198 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:38,560 know, masonry, glass, metal, um etc. you can use. Um and so um without that 199 00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:43,920 there's not a lot you know localities can do. We do have a 720 overlay um 200 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:49,519 that's been put in place and recently it was updated um uh as we dealt with the 201 00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:56,480 commercial projects on the west side of 720. Um but um you know we aren't in a 202 00:15:53,440 --> 00:16:00,480 position um you know to say you know we like these colors, we like these 203 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:04,639 materials. um you know we do have conversations with developers when they 204 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:10,959 submit or they talk about projects and we try to encourage um features and 205 00:16:08,959 --> 00:16:17,519 charact uh and other traits to differentiate that product. Um, but one 206 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:22,079 of the big drivers of that is typically in exchange for doing some of those 207 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:28,160 things, the locality is putting in something, right? Maybe um, uh, it's a, 208 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:31,680 you know, reduced price on land or, you know, some sort of incentive. And those 209 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:37,839 are things that are really hard for us to do because we don't really have land 210 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:44,320 and we don't have deep pockets. And, um, so, you know, there's not a lot that you 211 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:49,600 can do. Now, um Brian, uh works um very hard and uh in his conversations with 212 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:54,079 developers and the the items that he takes forward to planning and zoning to, 213 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:59,040 you know, look at you know, different things for bu building articulation. Um, 214 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:04,160 you know, we've got a commercial project, um, that you referenced number 215 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:07,760 five coming up where, you know, I think, um, they probably thought I was a broken 216 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:12,559 record where I said you've got to have like, you know, an incredible amount of 217 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:19,120 landscaping. um you know but at the end of the day the thing the other piece 218 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:24,400 that makes that difficult is um you know developers are 219 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:28,400 not always willing or wanting to spend a whole lot of extra money and you know 220 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,640 it's also what the market will dictate because if they're spending a lot more 221 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:37,760 money creating something that's very different um and different typically 222 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:42,000 costs more money um then they've got to charge higher prices or higher rents um 223 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:47,200 which makes it harder for them to you know lease up or lease out those spaces. 224 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:52,080 Um you know we we do everything we can as a staff with the tools and resources 225 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:57,520 that we have. Um but you know we are again unique in terms of our limitations 226 00:17:54,880 --> 00:18:01,760 on what we can offer. Um as well as you know how we can kind of make things uh 227 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:05,200 marketable and competitive within the marketplace that we find ourselves in. 228 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:11,520 as you mentioned, you know, we're sort of sandwiched between 380 and Little 229 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:17,360 Elm. And um you know, if you have things that cost a whole lot more 230 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:20,880 money for um businesses and developers, they may say, "Well, we're going to pass 231 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:26,799 an Oak Point and go somewhere else where we don't do that." Um you know, there's 232 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:31,760 not a lot of land. um you know the I guess it's the east side of 720 is a 233 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:37,200 fairly you know in the shopping center world a fairly small track of of land um 234 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:41,360 you know so there's not a lot of options and how you can maximize that as you 235 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:47,679 heard consultants share with you how do you maximize um uh you know sales tax 236 00:18:45,679 --> 00:18:53,760 per square foot you know when you've got to factor in all the other things um on 237 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:58,240 a on a on a small person um but our best tool is the 720 overlay and I think 238 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:04,000 planning and zoning has been great um in amending that um uh with some uh 239 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:09,320 additional items particularly what was it May April that we went before them 240 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:18,320 » recently um so [laughter] um you know and so we as staff if we come across 241 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:23,600 things that we think we can add to um to improve upon that um we are not shy 242 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:28,400 about coming forward to PNZ and saying Hey, there's another thing we want to 243 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:34,240 add to the overlay. And again, um the commercial properties that are that are 244 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:39,919 yet to be developed on the west side of 720 that Chapperel area, I mean, most of 245 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:45,520 that was not actually included in the original 720 overlay because it came 246 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:50,640 before all of that. And so, um, the most recent, um, 380 agreement that we put 247 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:54,720 forward that's been approved, um, one of the great pieces about that, I mean, 248 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:59,039 they were all great pieces, but, um, one of the highlights for us was that the 249 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:05,440 developers of that agreed to come under or fall under the 720 overlay. So, they 250 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:09,360 now have to, um, meet a higher standard than what was originally, but that a 251 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,760 higher standard from what they were originally um, allowed to do. And so, 252 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:19,039 um, you know, while there's nothing yet to show for that, I think that's a 253 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:23,760 fairly significant, um, accomplishment, um, you know, does it go all the way? 254 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:27,679 Uh, no. But I think, you know, also you referenced, you know, that the color 255 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,600 palette and some of the concepts. Um I think a lot of those things were you 256 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:35,840 know are great ideas and important ideas but you know at the end they were kind 257 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:40,240 of concepts that were somewhat discussed you know 258 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:43,919 you know in a context or just in a box without kind of considering all of the 259 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:48,720 other things and you know we are again limited in what we can control and how 260 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:55,360 we can control those things. Well, I wish we would at least have a 261 00:20:51,919 --> 00:21:00,640 visual or a rendering that, you know, when somebody comes in and approaches 262 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:06,880 Brian, Brian could say, "Hey, would you give this any consideration if we could 263 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:14,080 follow this path of architectural elements? You know, 264 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:18,400 hell, it it it could be a tree on the corner of or a tower on the edge of each 265 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:23,039 building. Or maybe it could be the monument sign that I was going to say. 266 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:25,840 » Everybody, you know, everybody has some uniformity that they have to comply 267 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,000 with. >> Yeah. 268 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,840 » Rather than, you know, most of the time I'm sure they're just coming in with a 269 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:37,440 preliminary drawing of what they want to do. I wish we could get out in front of 270 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:42,480 that and say, "Hey, we think we should identify Oak Point 271 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,880 different than everybody else. Pierce's suggestion. Can you get on board with 272 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:49,120 it?" >> Yeah. So the 720 overlay does have what 273 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:54,000 you're saying. It has uh specifically certain colors in it that it likes to 274 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:58,159 see. Um but again like Noah was saying some the applicability of the 720 275 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:03,440 overlay is kind of a patchwork right now. Um additionally like you said you 276 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:07,679 know there's always the ability for NPDS to have this language and then also to 277 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:11,679 kind of show them hey here's you know if you need a zoning change for your 278 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:16,320 property here is what PNC and council like to see. So those standards are 279 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:21,039 there. um in a patchwork across the city's small commercial area. And then 280 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:25,360 also we still point people who aren't in the 720 overlay. We say, "Hey, here is 281 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:29,200 the standard that everyone else is at. If you have to request any variance, 282 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:32,640 this is what we're going to hold you to if you want to get that." So the 283 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:37,039 standards there in the 720. It's just a matter of getting it to really clamp 284 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,280 down on all the remaining properties that it doesn't apply to. Since 285 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:46,320 nothing's really other than the one corner, nothing's really got signage or 286 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:51,440 anything on either side from Mtop to McCormick, could could there be some 287 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:55,280 sort of standardized monument sign because that's you know if 288 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:58,960 » potentially but a lot of cities they have um or not cities a lot of 289 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,960 developers and brands they have you know their brands you know for like 290 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,720 McDonald's for their sign that's what they want you know so they all you know 291 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:11,120 you might see small variations like Sedona Arizona um but For the most part, 292 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:15,440 they're going to do whatever fills that space and starts the rent checks coming 293 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:21,919 in. You know, like said, the city has very little ability. Yeah. 294 00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:25,679 » Okay. Is there like as far as uh parking lot lighting and so forth? Is there some 295 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:28,960 uniformity? >> There is. Yeah. So, we are dark. 296 00:23:28,266 --> 00:23:32,851 [laughter and clears throat] >> We got to work on this. 297 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:34,871 » Yeah. The person coming up goes up top. [laughter] 298 00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:44,000 » Uh no. So, we have dark sky certification um or certified. We um 299 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,360 have the dark sky standards in our lighting ordinance which regulates the 300 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:51,919 temperature of the light. You know, whether it's the really harsh white or 301 00:23:49,679 --> 00:23:55,760 the really old school yellow, you know, the warmth and the coldness of it. Um 302 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:01,280 and then there's also like the light height and then also the bleed or the um 303 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:07,600 trespass of the light, how far how intense it can be at the property line. 304 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:13,039 As far as fixturing >> um stop signs and signs within the 305 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:17,200 development or the physical pole and the head of the light, we have no 306 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,760 consistency there. >> No. 307 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:26,960 » Like if the maximum height is 75 ft, can we make them all 75 feet or do they have 308 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:31,279 » the maximum height I think is something like 25? 309 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:35,120 » 35. Yeah, it's 25 after the base and the 310 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,400 base can only be two and a half feet tall, 311 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,679 » but it doesn't regulate what the base is made of. It'll like concrete cylinder 312 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,320 or, you know, concrete with this kind of rock on the edge, you know. 313 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,039 » So, they could look different development to development. 314 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:52,000 » They could. Yeah. Um, >> so it's too late to include something 315 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:54,799 like that in there. >> And I just don't know that that's, you 316 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,600 know, >> the continuity. 317 00:24:56,159 --> 00:25:00,720 » I just don't know that that's worth it. You know, 318 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:04,000 all the great places I've been to, I can't recall what the light posts look 319 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,760 like. You know, no one's going to go, "Oh, Oak Point." You know, I really like 320 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:12,320 your light. >> You know, it's kind of like residential. 321 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,919 You know, usually they establish >> a certain type of uh 322 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,080 » Yeah. Whatever. >> That kind of toes the line of the what 323 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:26,400 started that materials bill is cities were regulating what style and color and 324 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:30,799 brand of brick you had to buy. And that's what got the govern the Texas 325 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:34,960 government to say, "No, can't do any of that." So, we would like to not be the 326 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:39,919 next uh case study for the Texas legislature. And I will say just to add 327 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:45,279 to the the legislative part of that, you know, we're coming upon the next 328 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:51,919 session, um we do expect um several pieces of legislation to um further 329 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:58,159 erode our ability to regulate um commercial and residential development 330 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:04,559 um as well as how we use incentives uh for development. um they're um fairly 331 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:08,720 high priority items um for folks who are looking to 332 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:13,760 restrict city's ability to dictate or make maintenance. 333 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:20,799 » So what I'm hearing is really we have really no set plan that can help us 334 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:23,679 distinguish ourselves from the neighboring 335 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:27,200 » we have the 720 overlay. >> Yeah. Okay. 336 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,799 Right. >> It's not that we didn't have the ideas. 337 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,760 We're restricted from doing some of the things that we have. 338 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,840 » Well, it's a combination of that and but >> we're behind the curve and we don't 339 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,440 control the the development. >> Correct. 340 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:46,480 » You know, if we had 50 acres that was city owned and we said we're going to in 341 00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:52,000 exchange for the 50 acres, James, you get to develop it, but we want you to 342 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:57,120 develop it with, you know, 75 foot tall light post. um you know and all the 343 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,679 other things you know water feature and this and you know trees and whatever um 344 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:06,799 you know we just were not in that position. don't have that. And you know, 345 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:12,960 if you want to incentivize that, you may be able to uh entice a developer to do 346 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:18,960 something more. Um but you're going to be pledging future dollars um you know, 347 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:25,840 now uh to do that. And as you know, we're not um a deep pocketed. I 348 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:31,279 understand that. How do you think, as silly as it is, how do you think Little 349 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:36,799 Elm gets everybody to put those silly lights on their building? 350 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:40,159 » I don't know what they have LED lights on. 351 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,120 » I know that, you know, LED lights and change color. 352 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,520 » They incentivize it. >> Okay. 353 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,520 » They truly do incentivize it. And a lot of whenever they go up, you know, it's 354 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,960 projects that the EDC is already working with them on. So they incentivize it and 355 00:27:51,760 --> 00:28:01,320 it's usually either a part of uh the requirements of their incentive or it 356 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:01,320 goes under their qualified expenditures. 357 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:08,720 » Well and and one of you I don't remember which one of you a few minutes ago kind 358 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:13,760 of muted that you relate to the game. I mean that's you know some of these 359 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:18,000 things we wish you know we had the right step team in place you know a few years 360 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:22,559 ago so we could kind of get ahead of some of these things and we're really 361 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,279 we're trying to catch up with what little we have left 362 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:38,000 question here and um correct me if I'm wrong but I was thinking if that u 363 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:42,720 development area wanted to be having some some sort of like a sign of 364 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:48,480 the city. Do we have anything like this monument being built or being displayed 365 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:53,600 at the beginning the entrance of the development that the that area because 366 00:28:50,559 --> 00:29:00,320 we know from this point the old point starts like that's a limit and this this 367 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:05,840 spot let alone starts. So, we know like through driving, but not necessarily 368 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:09,120 when we're driving to see. Okay, now we have 369 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:12,799 » we have an Oak Point monument sign that's at the corner of 720 and 370 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,120 McCormack um at the moment. That's where it it is, 371 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,679 but nothing that sort of delineates your coming in or, you know, leaving. 372 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,600 » Um >> well, there's one there's one on Naylor. 373 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,640 » Yeah, we have wayinder sign. >> Yeah. Yeah, there there's the recent 374 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:31,600 wavefinding project. Um you'll see them on Naylor. 375 00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:35,600 » Um northbound on um Okra Parkway and even southbound it's is it on a pole 376 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,600 it's brown >> brown and green 377 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,600 » brown and green with like text 378 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:52,960 be something that like statue >> like or is there like most of them do 379 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:58,960 stone monument of some sort is there a way to have just or ask them or somehow 380 00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:03,200 incentivize I don't know how we do it, but just like maybe in the corner, you 381 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:08,000 know, it would all of them would have the little 382 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:12,720 » if this is our little symbol, you know, like kind of on the maybe there would be 383 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,159 a square on the top of each >> one that would have the oak point just 384 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:20,960 just a distinguishing thing like that that they could do during none of them 385 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:26,480 have signs up yet along there along the bulk of it. if there would be some way 386 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,279 to incorporate that into the upper left corner or something, you know, 387 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,360 » or the base. Could be the base. >> Base. Yeah. Somewhere on the sign 388 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,640 » that just >> one thing that's consistent from the 389 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:39,600 time you hit a point. >> That could be something to talk to 390 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,200 because we have our sign ordinance, talk to council about, you know, if you do 391 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,360 this, you're allotted so many more square footage of signs. 392 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:51,120 » Exact that or or like that like similar. Exactly like that. You know, just 393 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,320 something that distinguishes, you know, like you have a little arch there or 394 00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,760 something like you said at the base. >> Yeah. 395 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,200 » You know, >> just something to distinguish our 396 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,200 businesses. >> Absolutely. 397 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,960 » Not necessarily the writing, just just the 398 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:12,520 » Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Just something that's our emblem 399 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,520 kind of thing. 400 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:21,360 » Get a costume for somebody to wear. But anyway, I think that and speaking 401 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:25,440 for PNZ, I think we'd be welcome to look at an ordinance 402 00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:27,679 » to incorporate something like that in the commercial. 403 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,799 » We can certainly include that in conversation have with folks. 404 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:36,640 » Okay. >> There was something in here about uh 405 00:31:33,919 --> 00:31:43,880 unique marketing materials and kind of giving us a a uh 406 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,880 a booklet. 407 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,320 I'm sorry. >> Page 28, number six, messaging 408 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:52,000 consistency. >> Yeah. 409 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,760 I'm just wondering >> message consistency. 410 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:02,799 » Yeah, exactly. And then it goes into more detail somewhere under one of these 411 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:08,159 goals, but just wondering how far off are we on something like that? Yeah, I 412 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:14,640 mean um right now we're not spending a whole lot of time on that because again 413 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:22,159 um our two largest commercial areas have as you know um large commercial brokers 414 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:25,360 and not really spending the time and energies doing 415 00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:30,399 something that they're doing on their own and far better than we could ever. I 416 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:35,600 mean just does it make sense to sort of you know duplicate that effort I think 417 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:40,640 at some point in the future um as we have more uh commercial opportunities 418 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,720 uh existing commercial opportunities within the community and maybe spaces 419 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:49,600 start to change hands in the future you know we'll be playing a much larger role 420 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:54,559 in um the recruitment of things but right now most of you know most of the 421 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:59,360 calls that I get are from the commercial brokers not specific entities is looking 422 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,279 to locate because they've already had those calls. 423 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:04,480 » Yeah. And they're calling because they've already done the research and 424 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:10,880 their demographics and I I understand all that. I just wanted us to have 425 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:15,360 something if in fact we you know we're in a restaurant and it's 426 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,559 like hey this is this could work in Oak Point. 427 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,480 I'd like to have something to hand them. And I have I have the 428 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,640 » right >> you know two or three page marketing 429 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:29,200 brochure. Um, but I I think the other piece to that, you know, because I have 430 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,559 um one council member who hands out his cards everywhere he goes, so I have a 431 00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:37,279 stack of like I know where he's eaten this week. Um, and [laughter] um, I 432 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,640 mean, and my family jokes because I keep a stack of my cards in the car. So, 433 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:46,320 every time we go someplace, I'm like, "Hey, I do the same thing." The thing 434 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:51,039 that I find the most that um, hinders those conversations 435 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:56,000 um is, "Oh, I may be interested in a point. you know, where where would you 436 00:33:52,640 --> 00:34:00,559 put me? And right now, I don't have any spot to put them. And so, I would say 437 00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:04,720 for all of the places that I've gone to or that I've followed up from the 438 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:08,720 council people's cards of where they've gone to, that is a single that is the 439 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:13,359 thing that kills the conversation. I I don't have a spot, a pad, a vacancy. 440 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:18,960 Nobody wants to build a building or, you know, typically in that that genre of of 441 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:24,720 folks. I I need the commercial folks to come in, build their things. So I have a 442 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:28,720 place to say, "Oh, you know, there's blah blah blah square feet of retail on 443 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:34,079 the east side and, you know, this many sites on the west side." We don't have 444 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:40,079 any of that right now. >> Okay. We should have some ammunition to 445 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:45,520 at least say, "Hey, call Scott at Whitesman because he's working on he's 446 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:50,079 working on something. Call or call so and so. he's working with. 447 00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:55,359 » So that's what I do do is I do pass that information on to those folks. So if you 448 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,720 you know um because there's several different brokers, I would say the best 449 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,240 and easiest thing is if you have those conversations, if you connect me to 450 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,400 those people, I will make those connections. 451 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,760 » Okay? >> And we can definitely include like a 452 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,040 contact sheet for Noah and his information and like the binders and 453 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,839 stuff. That way you have it readily available and that way if you have those 454 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:19,160 conversations, then that's just something that you can see right there. 455 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,160 for sure. 456 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:30,560 » Absolutely. >> Well, and I think a few months from now, 457 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:34,720 we may be in a very different spot than we are currently, 458 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:38,480 » you know, and so this is a very fluid and evolving 459 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,839 » kind of spot that we're in. And so again, I don't want to spend a lot of 460 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,240 time doing something for today when in a few months we'll be in a very different 461 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,560 spot, >> different strategy. 462 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,920 » Understood. >> Okay. So, you're going to send us an 463 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:57,280 email and then we need to follow up with you after that email. 464 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:01,760 » Exactly. So, tomorrow we'll send out an email and we'll have an attachment that 465 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:04,960 will be the EDC bylaws. If you guys want to mark it up on the computer, I 466 00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:07,520 definitely recommend that option. That way you don't have to print it out 467 00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:11,520 because it's pretty thick. But I understand that not a ton of people can 468 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,800 be super comfortable with the computer sometimes and so they like printing 469 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,000 things out and writing down comments. Feel free to come back up here, hand me 470 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,240 that packet, and I can work on implementing all of the different 471 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,839 changes that you guys have. Um, if you want to take about two weeks with it, 472 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:30,000 even three weeks, I can probably turn it around by the next time we have our EDC 473 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:35,200 meeting, just a set of like first round drafts for that. But then that email as 474 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:38,480 well, I'll attach kind of like a link to a Microsoft form where you can put in 475 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,240 ideas that you would have for things that you wanted to see in the binder. So 476 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:46,480 if you did want a contact sheet in there for a broker um or a contact sheet with 477 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:49,200 containing Noah's information for you to be able to use in those situations, 478 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:55,119 that's something that you could put into that form. If you wanted to have kind of 479 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:58,640 like general information about what a chapter 380 agreement is, I'm more than 480 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,400 happy to do that research for you guys and be able to compile all of that so 481 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,160 that way you can have that information for you in that binder. 482 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:10,560 » I think those kind of references would be very helpful. Also, if you send out 483 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,520 the bylaws, you said the latest version was 2014. 484 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:18,000 » From what I remember off the top of my head, I believe it was. Yeah, it was 485 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:23,839 definitely in the 10. So are there have you like do you have copies from other 486 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:27,599 cities what their current more current version of bylaws because if we're 487 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:31,680 looking at it cold I'm not sure >> yeah I can definitely 488 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:35,119 » exactly what you know would be well this is still 489 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:40,320 » and our world our city attorney that's one of the areas that he specializes in 490 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:42,720 » is the EDC world and the bylaw so we have we're lucky that we have a really 491 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,520 good resource >> okay 492 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:51,119 » because I'm just not sure if I'm looking at it I'm gonna know. Yeah, for sure. 493 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:55,839 » We'll find some that we really like from some other places and share that with 494 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,520 you all. James and others and I'm happy to give you guys a stack of my cards. I 495 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,000 think at one time you had a big stack of >> I think I'm probably so happy about 496 00:38:00,736 --> 00:38:06,079 [laughter] can't >> but um but um you know so that that's 497 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:11,200 something you can do. But like like I said with the the council person who you 498 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,040 know grabs cards and napkins I mean I do reach out to everybody happy to do that. 499 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:20,000 Um it's just they got to have a place for them. And if maybe and since Jeff is 500 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,680 that who you're talking about is good. If maybe he has one that he thought was 501 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,119 like really on point and fairly current that might be a good starting point 502 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:30,240 actually. >> He's right. 503 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,520 » Yeah. I was gonna say I mean give us give me a good starting point especially 504 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,040 when you said it was kind of a big document. So 505 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,320 » I think off the top of my head it's probably about 35 pages. 506 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,720 » Yeah. So I I like a starting. >> Yeah. For sure. Absolutely. 507 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,760 » Okay. Thank you. >> My printer doesn't even hold 35. 508 00:38:45,276 --> 00:38:50,079 » [laughter] >> I know. 509 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:55,520 » I had to load it three times. >> The 510 00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:00,800 the the criteria you want to use for to compare this by that we have to get 511 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:04,560 it updated to it needs to be within the state of Texas. It's going to be within 512 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,920 certain zip code or what what >> So, do you want to go? 513 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:11,440 » I was going to say we're going to look for cities that are similar in size to 514 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,119 Oak Point as well as things that Oakpoint has to offer. And so we want to 515 00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:18,720 make sure that anything that we're adopting as a bylaw is reflective of 516 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,599 what the population looks like and what we can offer. And so we're definitely 517 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,839 going to be looking within the state of Texas because there are specific laws 518 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:29,680 that apply to specific EDCs. We're also considered a type B EDC. So that's going 519 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,960 to be another restriction. And that's going to be something that I can outline 520 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,760 in the email itself just to keep in the back of your mind while you're looking 521 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,040 at all of them. And we'll definitely cross check all those references to make 522 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,400 sure that they meet that. on saying that I was thinking to run it with the 523 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,119 artificial intelligence to see which one is the closest one which is you know 524 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,800 that's >> Yeah. So there are actually different 525 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:52,480 options that you can manually do that in word instead of running it through AI. I 526 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,760 personally am not a super big fan of doing that in AI especially with 527 00:39:54,079 --> 00:40:00,240 anything that's like a legally binding document. I definitely think that AI has 528 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,160 its uses and it's definitely going to be able to catch things that I'm not able 529 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:09,359 to catch after looking at the same 35 pages multiple times kind of thing. Um, 530 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:15,067 but that's definitely something that I would push off towards later. Yeah. 531 00:40:13,047 --> 00:40:15,067 [clears throat] 532 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:23,280 » What's a tight B? >> Oh, I get that one. [laughter] 533 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:29,599 » As opposed to an A. I know >> there's an A and a B. Um, and um it the 534 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:34,560 difference is how they how they can use their dollars, okay, for the types of 535 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:40,079 projects. And type B gives you more flexibility in how those dollars can be 536 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:45,280 used. Um, A's typically deal with like sporting venues and larger projects, but 537 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:51,280 not, you know, some of the smaller type things or other things that, you know, 538 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:58,880 we we deal with. And I know many of you are um signed up for the class um this 539 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,920 fall. Can't remember when September. Oh, it's coming up soon. 540 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:14,319 Um uh at least three of you are. I can't remember if you are James. 541 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,520 » Yeah. >> Um but um they'll go over all of that 542 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:25,200 and actually our attorney will likely be one of the primary speakers there. 543 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,680 » So please behave. So in our binder that would be a good 544 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:33,920 thing what >> what you can what a B is and then also I 545 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:38,720 think a good reference is like the the difference in what you can spend money 546 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,480 on between the EDC and the MD. >> Okay. 547 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,680 » Because I think that's something that comes up when we're talking about 548 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:47,520 budgets sometimes and things. >> I mean just 549 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:50,960 I should have wrote that down in my email but since 550 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,319 » I might lose that thought. >> You did write it down. It's next to the 551 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:01,079 email that says you have class, >> right? Yeah. I got to find that note. 552 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,079 That post-it note stuck somewhere 553 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,520 » municipal development district. We're kind of a dual organization. and I can 554 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,560 do. >> And then next week, we'll have an 555 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,079 updated business plan with some of our other metrics, kind of looking at the 556 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,280 progress that we've done, kind of the conversations that we've had over those 557 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:24,880 like really data driven ones and whether or not we actually really truly need to 558 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,240 have it as like a specific number happening per month and so on and so 559 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,520 forth. And so you'll see some of those updates as well. 560 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:40,760 Any other discussion on uh agenda item six? 561 00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:49,200 » Okay. Did we normally talk about anything that we want to talk about next 562 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:53,040 month? >> Um 563 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,800 can we get since that meeting will probably be before 564 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,760 » Yes. >> our uh I was just looking at 565 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,760 » anniversary. >> Yes. So we're I mean, we don't have to 566 00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:04,560 discuss it tonight because it's not on the agenda, but can 567 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:10,000 » Yeah, that's fine. Uh, yeah, we've just I can give a super brief synopsis. We've 568 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:13,760 rebooted the committee. We're basically copying and pasting what we did what we 569 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,280 were going to do in June. Um, but we can go over all that next month, talk about 570 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,760 rules and all that >> and what we need to do 571 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:28,640 » either with make sure that gets on the agenda for next month. Okay. 572 00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:34,240 And if there any other suggestions for next month other than update on the 573 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:40,520 business plan and so forth. >> Um I will not be at your next meeting 574 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,520 because it's fall break. 575 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:52,400 » We will miss you. [clears throat] 576 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:55,280 » Anything else? If not, uh I just have just one um general comment. 577 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:02,240 » Sure. >> Uh um just a sort of reminder, right? We 578 00:43:59,839 --> 00:44:10,640 do sometimes use code names for some of our projects. Um and um if other folks 579 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:15,200 choose to uh divulge, share, market, whatever they may be, you know, um I've 580 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:20,000 always taken the approach and would ask that you all do the same is that um we 581 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:26,000 will always be the last uh group of folks to either confirm or deny um you 582 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:28,960 know a particular project or entity or anything like that. And so that's just 583 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:34,480 for you all just to keep that in the back of your your mind. 584 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,480 » Thank you. 585 00:44:35,359 --> 00:44:42,960 Okay, with that, uh, we will adjourn. Let's see. I'll call for a motion to 586 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,640 adjourn. Who would like to make that motion? 587 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,079 » I'll make a motion. >> We have a second. 588 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,160 » Second. >> We have a second. 589 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,599 » That's a second. >> All in favor? 590 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,599 » I. The meeting's adjourned at 6:44. 591 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,240 Sorry.