[0:00] Okay. Uh, welcome everybody. I'd like
to, uh, call to order the, uh, Oak Point
[0:08] Economic Development Corporation and
Municipal Development District meeting.
[0:13] Uh, we have uh, one, two, three, four,
five. So, we have a quorum.
[0:20] So, we have a quorum present and we'll
start the meeting at six o'clock.
[0:28] and Mosen, would you lead us in the
pledge of pledge of allegiance?
[0:34] » Okay,
>> Betsy,
[0:36] » you're on.
>> All right.
[0:38] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:42] republic for it stands one nation under
God, indivisible with liberty and
[0:48] justice for all.
I aliance to the Texas one state
[1:03] pledges on it next time.
[1:10] » Okay, item number three. Oh, by the way,
I want to welcome our new board member,
[1:14] uh, Christine Brown.
>> Thank you for joining us.
[1:17] » Christine,
>> CHRISTINA, I'M SORRY.
[1:22] » [applause]
[1:25] » WE'LL MOVE ON to um agenda item number
three, public input. Uh it doesn't
[1:31] appear anybody's here, so we're not
going to have any public input tonight.
[1:36] We'll move on to agenda four, consider
and act upon the minutes from the July
[1:41] 14th, 2026 regular EDC meeting.
[1:47] take a minute. Review those uh minutes
and then we'll look for a motion.
[1:52] » I move to approve the minutes from the
July 14th regular EDC meeting. I'll
[1:57] second.
>> Thank you. So, we have a first by Debbie
[2:02] and a second by Betsy. All in favor?
>> I. Motion passes.
[2:13] Item number five, consider an act upon
the June 2026 financial report of Ypoint
[2:19] Economic Development Corporation.
[2:24] » City Manager, please.
>> Thank you. Um, you [clears throat] have
[2:27] the information in your packet um in
front of you. Uh, we are basically
[2:32] coming up well, we are coming up to the
end of the fiscal year. Uh so once we go
[2:37] into uh our next fiscal year which uh
the current year ends September 30th,
[2:42] the new year begins fiscal year begins
October one, you'll still see um uh some
[2:49] data from the last fiscal year because
our data trends a bit behind. Um
[2:54] everything is trending normally. The the
one item though I will will call out um
[2:59] something we've discussed about or
discussed in the past is you can see um
[3:04] uh under um [clears throat]
uh uh your expenses um professional
[3:11] services we are coming up on the limit
of that um we are going to have some uh
[3:16] we may have another invoice or two um
for the end of the fiscal year um and
[3:22] depending I don't expect it to be a
significant amount account. Um, but it
[3:27] may require me to transfer um between
line items within the budget uh to cover
[3:32] it. But if it if if it does require um
uh um a few extra or a few additional
[3:39] dollars, I don't expect it to be a
significant amount of activity dollars
[3:43] based on the activities at the moment.
[3:49] » Who do you anticipate those invoices
coming from? our um economic development
[3:54] uh consultant uh Mr. Chen Petty
[4:01] » and there's no action required on our
part to do that. you can just answer.
[4:08] » I just wanted to call it out. It was an
item of discussion before
[4:12] » and since we are getting close to that
upper limit
[4:16] » hopefully that'll ask me to the next uh
30 days or so, but [laughter] we'll see.
[4:24] » Any further discussion? Any more
questions for the regarding the
[4:28] financial report?
[4:34] Okay. Nope. We're not required to act on
that or approve that. So,
[4:39] we'll move on to agenda item six,
which is review and discuss the Oakpoint
[4:45] Income Development Corporation business
plan goals and strategies.
[4:50] » Sure. When we last talked about this,
um, uh, you all had some questions about
[4:55] sort of how we were keeping tabs or
measuring certain items. So, McKenzie um
[5:02] has gone back and um added the wheel
into that. We h we will um call out or
[5:09] go through some highlights of some
specific items. Happy to answer
[5:12] questions on any of the items. Um I know
that this is an important uh topic for
[5:17] you for the EDC. We will continue to
provide updates. We're going to start.
[5:22] I'll let McKenzie kind of share some of
the work that she's done, the
[5:26] conversations that she's had, and then
we'll happily answer questions.
[5:31] » Sorry.
>> No worries.
[5:33] » Good evening everybody. Um, so
basically our goals are going to start
[5:39] on page 24 of the business plan packet.
I know it's kind of large. Um, and so we
[5:44] have a lot of things that are currently
in process with a lot of the commercial
[5:47] development that's happening within the
city right now. So, we've gone in and
[5:50] revised um some of essentially what
we're looking at on the metric KPI side.
[5:56] And so, we've made sure that we're
including a lot more um in progress
[6:00] aspects of that within those measures.
Some of the other measures um that
[6:05] Councilman Wiler or I guess director
Wiler in this aspect and I spoke about
[6:10] um are pertaining to goal two with those
really specific u metrics as a number of
[6:16] developer agreements per month as well
as number of conferences attended per
[6:21] year um number of site selector events
attended per year. And so really what
[6:25] we're going to do um is work um as city
staff to look at if those metrics are
[6:30] going to be really reasonable for us to
report on. Um we know that we are having
[6:35] conversations with developers. However,
how many times those are happening per
[6:39] month or versus how many times those
happening per quarter? What is kind of
[6:43] the difference? And is that metric
expansion going to be more feasible for
[6:47] us in the long term when we're
continuing to have all of these
[6:50] developments happen? Um, some of the
other goals that Councilman Director
[6:55] Wiler and I talked about specifically
pertain to the EDC bylaws. That's going
[7:00] to be kind of a larger project that
we're undertaking with the business plan
[7:03] just because they haven't been revised
since about 2014. Um, so it's going to
[7:07] be a lot of revision, a lot of combing
through happening with that here at city
[7:11] hall. Um, with some staff members. I
will be emailing you guys later on
[7:15] tomorrow kind of a copy of the EDC
bylaws for you guys to go through. Feel
[7:20] free to make comments on them. and shoot
them back over to me with any kind of
[7:23] edits that you guys have. I definitely
want you guys to have as much input and
[7:27] say into the modernization of that as
possible. On our end, what I'm going to
[7:31] be doing is looking at a couple of other
EDC corporations in the area and kind of
[7:36] the bylaws that they've adopted. Our
limit time frame wise is going to be
[7:40] probably within the past five years on
that, even probably going to three years
[7:44] if I can find any um to really see kind
of what other EDCs are focusing on in
[7:49] the area. And then we're also going to
be looking at some other cities that are
[7:53] similar to Oak Point and what we can
offer and provide. Um, so that is going
[7:57] to be kind of our next largest step. Um,
out of all of these, I do think it's
[8:01] probably the largest project that we're
going to be undertaking. And then
[8:05] another one that we can discuss now or
do you want to discuss later? Um, so
[8:10] another kind of aspect of the business
plan is these EDC binders that would be
[8:15] available to you guys to have here and
possibly um use just kind of personally
[8:20] to categorize things, organize things,
make sure things are put together. I did
[8:24] want to get some input on you guys. Um,
and that can be something I include in
[8:28] that email sending out with the EDC
bylaws on what you think you would want
[8:32] as an EDC director member to be included
in that. Along with that, I'm also going
[8:37] to be doing some of the same exact
research that I talked about before and
[8:40] looking at other EDC's, what they want
included. Um, right now, kind of our
[8:46] basis of what we're going to be putting
in there is that we have some material
[8:50] related to like commercial development.
Um, it's a little bit dated. It's from
[8:54] 2026 of this I mean January 2026. Um,
and so we are looking at seeing if we
[9:00] can work with anybody to modernize that,
update that a little bit before we start
[9:04] including that. Um, other than that, we
have our code of conduct that we updated
[9:09] recently that we're going to be
including in that. We also have all of
[9:12] our boards and commissions handbook
stuff that we're going to be including
[9:15] in that as well. Um,
other than that, I don't think we really
[9:20] have anything else. So, if you guys have
any kind of ideas or any kind of inputs
[9:25] that you want included in that, um, feel
free to let me know. Obviously, we're
[9:29] going to be including some agendas in
there. That way, you guys can just kind
[9:32] of have it all in one place. we have a
lot of um goals and metrics around
[9:37] marketing materials and brand
development. So when we start kind of
[9:40] dipping our toes in the water into that,
you'll find that material available
[9:44] within the binder as well. Um but that's
kind of the way that we're going right
[9:48] now.
Any questions?
[9:51] » I have a question. Absolutely.
>> On the consensus building topic that you
[9:56] talked about under the goal one.
>> Yes. And you talked about like keeping
[9:59] track of how many contracts and all. Is
this I mean is that really a
[10:04] quantifiable measure per se or is it
just like the tick mark? I mean we don't
[10:09] want to get in the business of just like
>> Yeah.
[10:12] » Keeping trend I mean is a five minute
conversation the same as a 30 minute
[10:17] discussion?
>> Yes. And so there's where quantifying
[10:21] those things get to be tough.
>> Exactly. And I think that's another
[10:24] deeper discussion that Noah and I need
to have because he's really the one
[10:27] that's having those conversations. I'm
not calling me up and like, "Hey,
[10:30] Mackenzie, I want to talk to you. Put
mark in this."
[10:33] » Yeah. Um, and so that's another
discussion that we do have to have
[10:36] together as staff and like what we
really want to consider a conversation.
[10:41] Um, another thing that Dragon did talk
about is kind of expanding the
[10:46] conferences and kind of like combing the
internet on some conferences for EDC
[10:50] stuff that would be available to you
guys. I think are great. And we do
[10:54] qualify for some scholarships through
TML, which is the Texas Mun School
[10:57] League if you're unfamiliar with that.
That would provide for um members to be
[11:02] able to get those paid for by TML. So,
I'm going to be looking into some of
[11:06] those and some other conferences. Um so
that way we can just expand out our
[11:10] education as much as possible.
>> And just going back to to the
[11:14] developers, right? I mean, you know, I
think part of that conversation is do
[11:20] you care that I had three conversations
or 23 conversations or do you care that
[11:24] I'm having conversations,
>> right? Right. That's why I'm saying tick
[11:28] marks, I mean, don't do much.
>> Exactly.
[11:31] » Yeah.
>> As far as value added, right? Sometimes,
[11:34] » you know, and I also think we we need to
look at it too in sort of the context of
[11:37] things with limited commercial
opportunities. um our largest commercial
[11:42] properties have you know very large
reputable national broker bro bro bro
[11:46] bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
[11:46] bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro
bro bro bro bro bro bro bro brokers who
[11:47] are doing that right
>> um and so um you know
[11:52] » we're kind of
>> in a traditional sense you know I'm not
[11:55] necessarily the first call that uh or
second or third call that um a
[12:00] prospective business may be making
because um of the limited area and the
[12:04] fact that um they are represented by
very large hooks of recorders
[12:08] » that that was kind of My point was yeah,
>> we're we're kind of a little unique in
[12:13] some of those perspectives
>> in lots of things. Yes.
[12:15] » Right. Right. Everything.
>> Yeah.
[12:18] » That should have been a goal. [laughter]
>> Recognize our uniqueness.
[12:23] » And that goes into like the expansion of
like do we really care if it's monthly
[12:27] or do we just want to check in every
quarter?
[12:29] » Yeah.
>> Okay. You know, I mean, just sorry to to
[12:34] belver this, but you know, because of
the limit the limitations that we have,
[12:38] you know, a lot of my calls are with the
same ones over and over and over again.
[12:42] » Correct. Yeah.
>> I think the main objective is we're just
[12:47] being productive and
assertive wherever, you know,
[12:52] » proactive wherever we can be.
>> Absolutely.
[12:54] » And I think my staff can attest um
amount of time I spend on the phone with
[12:58] how much they're trying to get me for
other things. He also walks [laughter]
[13:00] around while he does it. So, it's just
like a game of where's Noah?
[13:04] » You need a tracker. You haven't put an
Apple tracker on yet.
[13:07] » I haven't convinced him of it yet.
>> Right. I know. I try to get us to do
[13:13] like a city staff like walking thing for
one month and I was like, no one would
[13:18] blow us out of the water. [laughter]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[13:21] » Yeah, of course.
So somewhere in the past we have talked
[13:27] several times the EDC in in some of
these joint meetings that we've had
[13:33] we've talked about
uh sorry turn my hearing aids off.
[13:42] um
about how we're going to set ourselves
[13:47] apart from looking like 380 and Little M
with all the different
[13:56] building architectural elements if
there's any way we can try to bring that
[14:02] into some consistency.
And now that I see item five coming up
[14:10] um
on the uh development report,
[14:18] you know what I what I would like to see
[14:24] um is some kind of architectural
consistency because I I know one of our
[14:30] consultants brought out color palettes
and kind of building material. samples
[14:36] and tried to in institute that into the
overlay district, you know, if we
[14:41] possibly could. But if if we have any
leverage
[14:47] on any of these developers
to help us create some uniformity in
[14:54] architectural elements so that when
people drive down 720 they get the feel
[15:01] that they're driving through a downtown
area of some sort. They're some
[15:06] consistency with buildings. So
>> I saw that, you know, it it seems like
[15:12] that should be somewhere in these in
these goals and it may be, but I didn't
[15:17] see a jump.
>> Yeah, there are significant limitations
[15:19] on that. Um uh the state several years
ago um through legislation removed a
[15:24] city's ability to sort of dictate, you
know, building materials, how much, you
[15:29] know, masonry, glass, metal, um etc. you
can use. Um and so um without that
[15:36] there's not a lot you know localities
can do. We do have a 720 overlay um
[15:41] that's been put in place and recently it
was updated um uh as we dealt with the
[15:47] commercial projects on the west side of
720. Um but um you know we aren't in a
[15:53] position um you know to say you know we
like these colors, we like these
[15:58] materials. um you know we do have
conversations with developers when they
[16:02] submit or they talk about projects and
we try to encourage um features and
[16:08] charact uh and other traits to
differentiate that product. Um, but one
[16:14] of the big drivers of that is typically
in exchange for doing some of those
[16:19] things, the locality is putting in
something, right? Maybe um, uh, it's a,
[16:25] you know, reduced price on land or, you
know, some sort of incentive. And those
[16:30] are things that are really hard for us
to do because we don't really have land
[16:34] and we don't have deep pockets. And, um,
so, you know, there's not a lot that you
[16:40] can do. Now, um Brian, uh works um very
hard and uh in his conversations with
[16:47] developers and the the items that he
takes forward to planning and zoning to,
[16:52] you know, look at you know, different
things for bu building articulation. Um,
[16:57] you know, we've got a commercial
project, um, that you referenced number
[17:01] five coming up where, you know, I think,
um, they probably thought I was a broken
[17:06] record where I said you've got to have
like, you know, an incredible amount of
[17:09] landscaping. um you know but at the end
of the day the thing the other piece
[17:14] that makes that difficult is um you know
developers are
[17:22] not always willing or wanting to spend a
whole lot of extra money and you know
[17:26] it's also what the market will dictate
because if they're spending a lot more
[17:30] money creating something that's very
different um and different typically
[17:35] costs more money um then they've got to
charge higher prices or higher rents um
[17:40] which makes it harder for them to you
know lease up or lease out those spaces.
[17:44] Um you know we we do everything we can
as a staff with the tools and resources
[17:49] that we have. Um but you know we are
again unique in terms of our limitations
[17:54] on what we can offer. Um as well as you
know how we can kind of make things uh
[17:59] marketable and competitive within the
marketplace that we find ourselves in.
[18:03] as you mentioned, you know, we're sort
of sandwiched between 380 and Little
[18:07] Elm. And um you know, if you
have things that cost a whole lot more
[18:14] money for um businesses and developers,
they may say, "Well, we're going to pass
[18:18] an Oak Point and go somewhere else where
we don't do that." Um you know, there's
[18:23] not a lot of land. um you know the
I guess it's the east side of 720 is a
[18:29] fairly you know in the shopping center
world a fairly small track of of land um
[18:35] you know so there's not a lot of options
and how you can maximize that as you
[18:39] heard consultants share with you how do
you maximize um uh you know sales tax
[18:45] per square foot you know when you've got
to factor in all the other things um on
[18:50] a on a on a small person um but our best
tool is the 720 overlay and I think
[18:55] planning and zoning has been great um in
amending that um uh with some uh
[19:01] additional items particularly what was
it May April that we went before them
[19:09] » recently um so [laughter] um you know
and so we as staff if we come across
[19:15] things that we think we can add to um to
improve upon that um we are not shy
[19:21] about coming forward to PNZ and saying
Hey, there's another thing we want to
[19:25] add to the overlay. And again, um the
commercial properties that are that are
[19:31] yet to be developed on the west side of
720 that Chapperel area, I mean, most of
[19:37] that was not actually included in the
original 720 overlay because it came
[19:42] before all of that. And so, um, the most
recent, um, 380 agreement that we put
[19:48] forward that's been approved, um, one of
the great pieces about that, I mean,
[19:52] they were all great pieces, but, um, one
of the highlights for us was that the
[19:56] developers of that agreed to come under
or fall under the 720 overlay. So, they
[20:02] now have to, um, meet a higher standard
than what was originally, but that a
[20:08] higher standard from what they were
originally um, allowed to do. And so,
[20:12] um, you know, while there's nothing yet
to show for that, I think that's a
[20:15] fairly significant, um, accomplishment,
um, you know, does it go all the way?
[20:21] Uh, no. But I think, you know, also you
referenced, you know, that the color
[20:24] palette and some of the concepts. Um I
think a lot of those things were you
[20:29] know are great ideas and important ideas
but you know at the end they were kind
[20:33] of concepts that were somewhat discussed
you know
[20:38] you know in a context or just in a box
without kind of considering all of the
[20:41] other things and you know we are again
limited in what we can control and how
[20:46] we can control those things.
Well, I wish we would at least have a
[20:51] visual or a rendering that, you know,
when somebody comes in and approaches
[20:57] Brian, Brian could say, "Hey, would you
give this any consideration if we could
[21:04] follow this path
of architectural elements? You know,
[21:10] hell, it it it could be a tree on the
corner of or a tower on the edge of each
[21:16] building. Or maybe it could be the
monument sign that I was going to say.
[21:20] » Everybody, you know, everybody has some
uniformity that they have to comply
[21:25] with.
>> Yeah.
[21:26] » Rather than, you know, most of the time
I'm sure they're just coming in with a
[21:29] preliminary drawing of what they want to
do. I wish we could get out in front of
[21:34] that and say, "Hey, we think we should
identify Oak Point
[21:40] different than everybody else. Pierce's
suggestion. Can you get on board with
[21:44] it?"
>> Yeah. So the 720 overlay does have what
[21:46] you're saying. It has uh specifically
certain colors in it that it likes to
[21:51] see. Um but again like Noah was saying
some the applicability of the 720
[21:56] overlay is kind of a patchwork right
now. Um additionally like you said you
[22:00] know there's always the ability for NPDS
to have this language and then also to
[22:05] kind of show them hey here's you know if
you need a zoning change for your
[22:09] property here is what PNC and council
like to see. So those standards are
[22:13] there. um in a patchwork across the
city's small commercial area. And then
[22:18] also we still point people who aren't in
the 720 overlay. We say, "Hey, here is
[22:22] the standard that everyone else is at.
If you have to request any variance,
[22:27] this is what we're going to hold you to
if you want to get that." So the
[22:30] standards there in the 720. It's just a
matter of getting it to really clamp
[22:34] down on all the remaining properties
that it doesn't apply to. Since
[22:39] nothing's really other than the one
corner, nothing's really got signage or
[22:43] anything on either side from Mtop to
McCormick, could could there be some
[22:48] sort of standardized monument sign
because that's you know if
[22:53] » potentially but a lot of cities they
have um or not cities a lot of
[22:56] developers and brands they have you know
their brands you know for like
[23:00] McDonald's for their sign that's what
they want you know so they all you know
[23:05] you might see small variations like
Sedona Arizona um but For the most part,
[23:08] they're going to do whatever fills that
space and starts the rent checks coming
[23:12] in. You know, like said, the city has
very little ability. Yeah.
[23:18] » Okay. Is there like as far as uh parking
lot lighting and so forth? Is there some
[23:24] uniformity?
>> There is. Yeah. So, we are dark.
[23:28] [laughter and clears throat]
>> We got to work on this.
[23:30] » Yeah. The person coming up goes up top.
[laughter]
[23:36] » Uh no. So, we have dark sky
certification um or certified. We um
[23:42] have the dark sky standards in our
lighting ordinance which regulates the
[23:45] temperature of the light. You know,
whether it's the really harsh white or
[23:49] the really old school yellow, you know,
the warmth and the coldness of it. Um
[23:54] and then there's also like the light
height and then also the bleed or the um
[23:58] trespass of the light, how far how
intense it can be at the property line.
[24:03] As far as fixturing
>> um stop signs and signs within the
[24:10] development or the physical pole and the
head of the light, we have no
[24:15] consistency there.
>> No.
[24:18] » Like if the maximum height is 75 ft, can
we make them all 75 feet or do they have
[24:24] » the maximum height I think is something
like 25?
[24:29] » 35.
Yeah, it's 25 after the base and the
[24:33] base can only be two and a half feet
tall,
[24:36] » but it doesn't regulate what the base is
made of. It'll like concrete cylinder
[24:40] or, you know, concrete with this kind of
rock on the edge, you know.
[24:45] » So, they could look different
development to development.
[24:47] » They could. Yeah. Um,
>> so it's too late to include something
[24:51] like that in there.
>> And I just don't know that that's, you
[24:53] know,
>> the continuity.
[24:56] » I just don't know that that's worth it.
You know,
[24:59] all the great places I've been to, I
can't recall what the light posts look
[25:02] like. You know, no one's going to go,
"Oh, Oak Point." You know, I really like
[25:05] your light.
>> You know, it's kind of like residential.
[25:09] You know, usually they establish
>> a certain type of uh
[25:14] » Yeah. Whatever.
>> That kind of toes the line of the what
[25:18] started that materials bill is cities
were regulating what style and color and
[25:23] brand of brick you had to buy.
And that's what got the govern the Texas
[25:29] government to say, "No, can't do any of
that." So, we would like to not be the
[25:32] next uh case study for the Texas
legislature. And I will say just to add
[25:37] to the the legislative part of that, you
know, we're coming upon the next
[25:41] session, um we do expect um several
pieces of legislation to um further
[25:48] erode our ability to regulate um
commercial and residential development
[25:54] um as well as how we use incentives
uh for development. um they're um fairly
[26:01] high priority items um for folks who are
looking to
[26:06] restrict city's ability to dictate or
make maintenance.
[26:11] » So what I'm hearing is really we have
really no set plan that can help us
[26:17] distinguish ourselves from the
neighboring
[26:21] » we have the 720 overlay.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[26:26] Right.
>> It's not that we didn't have the ideas.
[26:28] We're restricted from doing some of the
things that we have.
[26:31] » Well, it's a combination of that and but
>> we're behind the curve and we don't
[26:35] control the the development.
>> Correct.
[26:38] » You know, if we had 50 acres that was
city owned and we said we're going to in
[26:44] exchange for the 50 acres, James, you
get to develop it, but we want you to
[26:48] develop it with, you know, 75 foot tall
light post. um you know and all the
[26:54] other things you know water feature and
this and you know trees and whatever um
[27:00] you know we just were not in that
position. don't have that. And you know,
[27:04] if you want to incentivize that, you may
be able to uh entice a developer to do
[27:10] something more. Um but you're going to
be pledging future dollars um you know,
[27:15] now uh to do that. And as you know,
we're not um a deep pocketed. I
[27:23] understand that. How do you think, as
silly as it is, how do you think Little
[27:28] Elm gets everybody to put those silly
lights on their building?
[27:34] » I don't know what they have LED lights
on.
[27:37] » I know that, you know, LED lights and
change color.
[27:41] » They incentivize it.
>> Okay.
[27:43] » They truly do incentivize it. And a lot
of whenever they go up, you know, it's
[27:47] projects that the EDC is already working
with them on. So they incentivize it and
[27:51] it's usually either a part of uh the
requirements of their incentive or it
[27:57] goes under their qualified expenditures.
[28:02] » Well and and one of you I don't remember
which one of you a few minutes ago kind
[28:06] of muted that you relate to the game. I
mean that's you know some of these
[28:11] things we wish you know we had the right
step team in place you know a few years
[28:16] ago so we could kind of get ahead of
some of these things and we're really
[28:20] we're trying to catch up with what
little we have left
[28:28] question here and um correct me if I'm
wrong but I was thinking if that u
[28:34] development area wanted to be
having some some sort of like a sign of
[28:40] the city. Do we have anything like this
monument being built or being displayed
[28:45] at the beginning the entrance of the
development that the that area because
[28:50] we know from this point the old point
starts like that's a limit and this this
[28:57] spot let alone starts. So, we know like
through driving, but not necessarily
[29:03] when we're driving to see. Okay, now we
have
[29:07] » we have an Oak Point monument sign
that's at the corner of 720 and
[29:11] McCormack
um at the moment. That's where it it is,
[29:15] but nothing that sort of delineates your
coming in or, you know, leaving.
[29:19] » Um
>> well, there's one there's one on Naylor.
[29:21] » Yeah, we have wayinder sign.
>> Yeah. Yeah, there there's the recent
[29:24] wavefinding project. Um you'll see them
on Naylor.
[29:27] » Um northbound on um Okra Parkway and
even southbound it's is it on a pole
[29:34] it's brown
>> brown and green
[29:36] » brown and green with like text
[29:45] be something that like statue
>> like or is there like most of them do
[29:50] stone monument of some sort is there a
way to have just or ask them or somehow
[29:57] incentivize I don't know how we do it,
but just like maybe in the corner, you
[30:01] know, it would all of them would have
the little
[30:05] » if this is our little symbol, you know,
like kind of on the maybe there would be
[30:10] a square on the top of each
>> one that would have the oak point just
[30:14] just a distinguishing thing like that
that they could do during none of them
[30:18] have signs up yet along there along the
bulk of it. if there would be some way
[30:23] to incorporate that into the upper left
corner or something, you know,
[30:27] » or the base. Could be the base.
>> Base. Yeah. Somewhere on the sign
[30:32] » that just
>> one thing that's consistent from the
[30:35] time you hit a point.
>> That could be something to talk to
[30:38] because we have our sign ordinance, talk
to council about, you know, if you do
[30:41] this, you're allotted so many more
square footage of signs.
[30:44] » Exact that or or like that like similar.
Exactly like that. You know, just
[30:49] something that distinguishes, you know,
like you have a little arch there or
[30:52] something like you said at the base.
>> Yeah.
[30:54] » You know,
>> just something to distinguish our
[30:58] businesses.
>> Absolutely.
[31:02] » Not necessarily the writing, just just
the
[31:05] » Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Just something that's our emblem
[31:09] kind of thing.
[31:13] » Get a costume for somebody to wear.
But anyway, I think that and speaking
[31:18] for PNZ, I think we'd be welcome to look
at an ordinance
[31:23] » to incorporate something like that in
the commercial.
[31:26] » We can certainly include that in
conversation have with folks.
[31:29] » Okay.
>> There was something in here about uh
[31:33] unique marketing materials and kind of
giving us a a uh
[31:40] a booklet.
[31:44] I'm sorry.
>> Page 28, number six, messaging
[31:47] consistency.
>> Yeah.
[31:50] I'm just wondering
>> message consistency.
[31:54] » Yeah, exactly. And then it goes into
more detail somewhere under one of these
[31:59] goals, but just wondering how far off
are we on something like that? Yeah, I
[32:05] mean um right now we're not spending a
whole lot of time on that because again
[32:10] um our two largest commercial areas have
as you know um large commercial brokers
[32:18] and not really
spending the time and energies doing
[32:23] something that they're doing on their
own and far better than we could ever. I
[32:28] mean just does it make sense to sort of
you know duplicate that effort I think
[32:32] at some point in the future um as we
have more uh commercial opportunities
[32:38] uh existing commercial opportunities
within the community and maybe spaces
[32:42] start to change hands in the future you
know we'll be playing a much larger role
[32:47] in um the recruitment of things but
right now most of you know most of the
[32:52] calls that I get are from the commercial
brokers not specific entities is looking
[32:57] to locate because they've already had
those calls.
[32:59] » Yeah. And they're calling because
they've already done the research and
[33:02] their demographics and I I understand
all that. I just wanted us to have
[33:06] something if in fact we
you know we're in a restaurant and it's
[33:12] like hey this is this could work in Oak
Point.
[33:16] I'd like to have something to hand them.
And I have I have the
[33:20] » right
>> you know two or three page marketing
[33:22] brochure. Um, but I I think the other
piece to that, you know, because I have
[33:27] um one council member who hands out his
cards everywhere he goes, so I have a
[33:31] stack of like I know where he's eaten
this week. Um, and [laughter] um, I
[33:35] mean, and my family jokes because I keep
a stack of my cards in the car. So,
[33:39] every time we go someplace, I'm like,
"Hey, I do the same thing." The thing
[33:42] that I find the most that um, hinders
those conversations
[33:48] um is, "Oh, I may be interested in a
point. you know, where where would you
[33:52] put me? And right now, I don't have any
spot to put them. And so, I would say
[33:58] for all of the places that I've gone to
or that I've followed up from the
[34:02] council people's cards of where they've
gone to, that is a single that is the
[34:06] thing that kills the conversation. I I
don't have a spot, a pad, a vacancy.
[34:11] Nobody wants to build a building or, you
know, typically in that that genre of of
[34:16] folks. I I need the commercial folks to
come in, build their things. So I have a
[34:21] place to say, "Oh, you know, there's
blah blah blah square feet of retail on
[34:26] the east side and, you know, this many
sites on the west side." We don't have
[34:31] any of that right now.
>> Okay. We should have some ammunition to
[34:36] at least say, "Hey, call Scott at
Whitesman because he's working on he's
[34:42] working on something. Call or call so
and so. he's working with.
[34:47] » So that's what I do do is I do pass that
information on to those folks. So if you
[34:53] you know um because there's several
different brokers, I would say the best
[34:57] and easiest thing is if you have those
conversations, if you connect me to
[35:00] those people, I will make those
connections.
[35:02] » Okay?
>> And we can definitely include like a
[35:06] contact sheet for Noah and his
information and like the binders and
[35:09] stuff. That way you have it readily
available and that way if you have those
[35:12] conversations, then that's just
something that you can see right there.
[35:15] for sure.
[35:24] » Absolutely.
>> Well, and I think a few months from now,
[35:28] we may be in a very different spot than
we are currently,
[35:32] » you know, and so this is a very fluid
and evolving
[35:36] » kind of spot that we're in. And so
again, I don't want to spend a lot of
[35:39] time doing something for today when in a
few months we'll be in a very different
[35:43] spot,
>> different strategy.
[35:48] » Understood.
>> Okay. So, you're going to send us an
[35:52] email and then we need to follow up with
you after that email.
[35:55] » Exactly. So, tomorrow we'll send out an
email and we'll have an attachment that
[35:59] will be the EDC bylaws. If you guys want
to mark it up on the computer, I
[36:03] definitely recommend that option. That
way you don't have to print it out
[36:05] because it's pretty thick. But I
understand that not a ton of people can
[36:09] be super comfortable with the computer
sometimes and so they like printing
[36:13] things out and writing down comments.
Feel free to come back up here, hand me
[36:16] that packet, and I can work on
implementing all of the different
[36:19] changes that you guys have. Um, if you
want to take about two weeks with it,
[36:24] even three weeks, I can probably turn it
around by the next time we have our EDC
[36:27] meeting, just a set of like first round
drafts for that. But then that email as
[36:32] well, I'll attach kind of like a link to
a Microsoft form where you can put in
[36:37] ideas that you would have for things
that you wanted to see in the binder. So
[36:40] if you did want a contact sheet in there
for a broker um or a contact sheet with
[36:44] containing Noah's information for you to
be able to use in those situations,
[36:47] that's something that you could put into
that form. If you wanted to have kind of
[36:51] like general information about what a
chapter 380 agreement is, I'm more than
[36:57] happy to do that research for you guys
and be able to compile all of that so
[37:00] that way you can have that information
for you in that binder.
[37:03] » I think those kind of references would
be very helpful. Also, if you send out
[37:08] the bylaws, you said the latest version
was 2014.
[37:11] » From what I remember off the top of my
head, I believe it was. Yeah, it was
[37:15] definitely in the 10. So are there have
you like do you have copies from other
[37:21] cities what their current more current
version of bylaws because if we're
[37:25] looking at it cold I'm not sure
>> yeah I can definitely
[37:28] » exactly what you know would be well this
is still
[37:32] » and our world our city attorney that's
one of the areas that he specializes in
[37:37] » is the EDC world and the bylaw so we
have we're lucky that we have a really
[37:41] good resource
>> okay
[37:43] » because I'm just not sure if I'm looking
at it I'm gonna know. Yeah, for sure.
[37:49] » We'll find some that we really like from
some other places and share that with
[37:52] you all. James and others and I'm happy
to give you guys a stack of my cards. I
[37:57] think at one time you had a big stack of
>> I think I'm probably so happy about
[38:00] [laughter] can't
>> but um but um you know so that that's
[38:04] something you can do. But like like I
said with the the council person who you
[38:08] know grabs cards and napkins I mean I do
reach out to everybody happy to do that.
[38:13] Um it's just they got to have a place
for them. And if maybe and since Jeff is
[38:18] that who you're talking about is good.
If maybe he has one that he thought was
[38:22] like really on point and fairly current
that might be a good starting point
[38:25] actually.
>> He's right.
[38:28] » Yeah. I was gonna say I mean give us
give me a good starting point especially
[38:31] when you said it was kind of a big
document. So
[38:35] » I think off the top of my head it's
probably about 35 pages.
[38:38] » Yeah. So I I like a starting.
>> Yeah. For sure. Absolutely.
[38:41] » Okay. Thank you.
>> My printer doesn't even hold 35.
[38:45] » [laughter]
>> I know.
[38:47] » I had to load it three times.
>> The
[38:52] the the criteria you want to use for
to compare this by that we have to get
[38:58] it updated to it needs to be within the
state of Texas. It's going to be within
[39:02] certain zip code or what what
>> So, do you want to go?
[39:06] » I was going to say we're going to look
for cities that are similar in size to
[39:10] Oak Point as well as things that
Oakpoint has to offer. And so we want to
[39:13] make sure that anything that we're
adopting as a bylaw is reflective of
[39:16] what the population looks like and what
we can offer. And so we're definitely
[39:20] going to be looking within the state of
Texas because there are specific laws
[39:23] that apply to specific EDCs. We're also
considered a type B EDC. So that's going
[39:27] to be another restriction. And that's
going to be something that I can outline
[39:31] in the email itself just to keep in the
back of your mind while you're looking
[39:34] at all of them. And we'll definitely
cross check all those references to make
[39:37] sure that they meet that. on saying that
I was thinking to run it with the
[39:40] artificial intelligence to see which one
is the closest one which is you know
[39:44] that's
>> Yeah. So there are actually different
[39:46] options that you can manually do that in
word instead of running it through AI. I
[39:50] personally am not a super big fan of
doing that in AI especially with
[39:54] anything that's like a legally binding
document. I definitely think that AI has
[39:58] its uses and it's definitely going to be
able to catch things that I'm not able
[40:02] to catch after looking at the same 35
pages multiple times kind of thing. Um,
[40:06] but that's definitely something that I
would push off towards later. Yeah.
[40:13] [clears throat]
[40:15] » What's a tight B?
>> Oh, I get that one. [laughter]
[40:21] » As opposed to an A. I know
>> there's an A and a B. Um, and um it the
[40:27] difference is how they how they can use
their dollars, okay, for the types of
[40:31] projects. And type B gives you more
flexibility in how those dollars can be
[40:36] used. Um, A's typically deal with like
sporting venues and larger projects, but
[40:42] not, you know, some of the smaller type
things or other things that, you know,
[40:46] we we deal with. And I know many of you
are um signed up for the class um this
[40:56] fall. Can't remember when September. Oh,
it's coming up soon.
[41:09] Um uh at least three of you are. I can't
remember if you are James.
[41:13] » Yeah.
>> Um but um they'll go over all of that
[41:17] and actually our attorney will likely be
one of the primary speakers there.
[41:23] » So please behave.
So in our binder that would be a good
[41:26] thing what
>> what you can what a B is and then also I
[41:31] think a good reference is like the the
difference in what you can spend money
[41:35] on between the EDC and the MD.
>> Okay.
[41:39] » Because I think that's something that
comes up when we're talking about
[41:41] budgets sometimes and things.
>> I mean just
[41:46] I should have wrote that down in my
email but since
[41:49] » I might lose that thought.
>> You did write it down. It's next to the
[41:52] email that says you have class,
>> right? Yeah. I got to find that note.
[41:56] That post-it note stuck somewhere
[42:04] » municipal development district. We're
kind of a dual organization. and I can
[42:09] do.
>> And then next week, we'll have an
[42:10] updated business plan with some of our
other metrics, kind of looking at the
[42:14] progress that we've done, kind of the
conversations that we've had over those
[42:17] like really data driven ones and whether
or not we actually really truly need to
[42:22] have it as like a specific number
happening per month and so on and so
[42:26] forth. And so you'll see some of those
updates as well.
[42:34] Any other discussion on uh agenda item
six?
[42:41] » Okay. Did we normally talk about
anything that we want to talk about next
[42:47] month?
>> Um
[42:50] can we get since that meeting will
probably be before
[42:54] » Yes.
>> our uh I was just looking at
[42:56] » anniversary.
>> Yes. So we're I mean, we don't have to
[43:00] discuss it tonight because it's not on
the agenda, but can
[43:02] » Yeah, that's fine. Uh, yeah, we've just
I can give a super brief synopsis. We've
[43:08] rebooted the committee. We're basically
copying and pasting what we did what we
[43:11] were going to do in June. Um, but we can
go over all that next month, talk about
[43:15] rules and all that
>> and what we need to do
[43:19] » either with make sure that gets on the
agenda for next month. Okay.
[43:26] And if there any other suggestions for
next month other than update on the
[43:31] business plan and so forth.
>> Um I will not be at your next meeting
[43:36] because it's fall break.
[43:42] » We will miss you.
[clears throat]
[43:47] » Anything else? If not, uh I just have
just one um general comment.
[43:54] » Sure.
>> Uh um just a sort of reminder, right? We
[43:59] do sometimes use code names for some of
our projects. Um and um if other folks
[44:06] choose to uh divulge, share, market,
whatever they may be, you know, um I've
[44:13] always taken the approach and would ask
that you all do the same is that um we
[44:18] will always be the last uh group of
folks to either confirm or deny um you
[44:23] know a particular project or entity or
anything like that. And so that's just
[44:27] for you all just to keep that in the
back of your your mind.
[44:31] » Thank you.
[44:35] Okay, with that, uh, we will adjourn.
Let's see. I'll call for a motion to
[44:40] adjourn. Who would like to make that
motion?
[44:43] » I'll make a motion.
>> We have a second.
[44:45] » Second.
>> We have a second.
[44:47] » That's a second.
>> All in favor?
[44:50] » I. The meeting's adjourned at 6:44.
[44:57] Sorry.