[0:06] Okay, [0:09] turn your mics on. [0:10] >> Mics on, please. [0:14] >> All right, we got the lower third up [0:15] there. We're going to go ahead and call [0:16] to order the regular meeting of the [0:17] Oakdale City Council, August 25th, 2026. [0:20] Sarah, will you please take the role? [0:21] >> Council member Moore, [0:22] >> here. [0:23] >> Council member Morham, [0:24] >> here. [0:24] >> Council member Severson, [0:26] >> here. [0:26] >> Council member Rich [0:27] >> here. Mayor Zabel [0:29] >> here. Please join me for the pledge of [0:30] allegiance. [0:34] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [0:37] United States of America and to the [0:40] republic for which it stands, one nation [0:43] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:47] justice for all. [0:53] » First up in front of us is approval of [0:55] the agenda. Council members, uh, no [0:57] changes on the agenda in front of us. [0:58] Can I get a motion to approve as [0:59] presented? [1:00] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [1:02] >> Second. [1:02] >> Motion and a second. All those in favor [1:04] say I. [1:04] >> I. [1:05] >> Opposed. Agenda is adopted. [1:08] >> Uh, next up, approval of minutes. Two [1:10] sets in front of us. Workshop um [1:12] workshop minutes from August 12th. Any [1:14] changes or corrections here, council [1:16] members? Seeing none, can I get a [1:18] motion? [1:18] >> So moved. [1:19] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [1:20] >> Second. [1:21] >> Motion and a second. Any conversation? [1:24] >> No. [1:25] >> Thank you for clarifying. [1:26] >> Very good. [1:26] >> All those in favor say I. I [1:28] >> opposed and [snorts] those workshop [1:30] minutes are adopted. [1:33] >> Next up, regular meeting minutes, August [1:34] 12th, 2026. Any changes or corrections [1:37] here? Seeing none, can I get a motion? [1:39] >> So moved. [1:39] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [1:41] >> Motion, a second. All those in favor say [1:43] I. [1:43] >> I. I. [1:44] >> Opposed. And those minutes are adopted [1:46] as well. [1:48] >> Uh, next up on our agenda is public [1:50] hearings. We do have one in front of us [1:52] tonight. A public hearing for Mr. [1:53] Carwash located at 7099 Leven Street [1:55] North. We will start with the staff [1:57] presentation. Luke, [2:00] thank you, Mayor and Council. So, yes, [2:03] this request, it's located at 709911 [2:07] Street North. That's the former Hardy [2:08] site. The request here is to enable [2:11] development of a car wash at that [2:12] property. The request involves two [2:14] things. A planned unit development or [2:17] PUD amendment, which is essentially a [2:18] zoning change, and a conditional use [2:21] permit to allow the car wash. So the [2:23] zoning of this site and the area is [2:25] Tartan Crossing PUD. Uh the PUD [2:28] expressly prohibits car washes and motor [2:31] fuel station car washes. So the stated [2:34] purpose and intent of the Tartan [2:35] Crossing PUD is to and I quote provide [2:38] for a compact walkable mixeduse [2:40] development along a key corridor and [2:42] gateway. So staff find that the proposed [2:44] amendment is inconsistent with the PUD [2:46] and the long-term vision for pedestrian [2:48] friendly uses within the Tartan Crossing [2:50] area. So in addition, the proposed use [2:53] may generate negative external effects [2:56] such as increased noise on adjacent [2:58] businesses and residential property and [3:00] by creating conflicts with the mixeduse [3:02] pedestrian supported neighborhood. [3:05] I want to acknowledge that while the [3:06] Tartan crossing area contains some [3:09] businesses with autooriented features, [3:11] these are accessory to the primary uses [3:14] uh which serve both pedestrians and [3:16] automobile users. whereas a car wash [3:19] would uh provide services exclusively to [3:21] automobile users. So for the conditional [3:24] use permit component of this request, [3:26] again the subject property being located [3:28] within the Tartan Crossing PUD area, uh [3:31] car washes are prohibited. As such, the [3:33] use is not permitted and the conditional [3:35] use permit should be denied. So, at the [3:38] planning commission hearing, this was [3:39] back on August 6 of this um a few weeks [3:42] back and there was an adjacent property [3:45] owner who expressed concerns about noise [3:48] impacts to the business from the [3:49] proposed use. Um [clears throat] [3:52] there was also a neighbor who expressed [3:54] support for the use. The commission [3:56] recommended approval of the planned unit [3:58] development amendment and also the [4:00] conditional use permit. So just to [4:03] conclude here, staff maintains its [4:05] recommendation of denial for both the [4:07] PUD amendment and the conditional use [4:09] permit based on the findings stated in [4:11] the resolutions that are in the agenda [4:13] packet. So I will jump to the first [4:16] resolution. So this is 2026-57. [4:19] So three findings here. So the first one [4:21] is that the proposed car wash conflicts [4:23] with the stated purpose and intent of [4:25] the Tartan Crossing PUD which is to [4:27] provide for a compact walkable mixeduse [4:30] development along a key corridor and [4:31] gateway. And number two, the proposed [4:34] use conflicts with the [4:35] pedestrianfriendly environment [4:36] envisioned for the Tartan Crossing PUD. [4:39] Number three, the subject property is is [4:42] adjacent to residential land use and the [4:44] proposed car wash is anticipated to [4:46] generate negative externalities and [4:49] nuisance conditions. Uh so jumping to [4:52] the next resolution. So this is 2026-56 [4:55] for the conditional use permit. Two [4:57] findings there again uh as mentioned [5:01] number one there the car wash and motor [5:03] fuel station car washes are prohibited [5:05] uses in tart the tartan crossing PUD [5:08] and number two the car wash conflicts [5:10] with the stated purpose and intent of [5:12] the PUD area. [5:15] Uh so as [clears throat] a reminder this [5:17] is a public hearing. I believe the Yep. [5:19] the full team for the the applicant is [5:21] here. Um staff is happy to answer any [5:24] questions as well. And I want to [5:25] acknowledge that we received a number of [5:27] written comments that have been [5:29] forwarded to the city council prior to [5:31] this meeting for review and [5:32] consideration. We also received um an [5:35] email late this evening, you know, about [5:37] 30 minutes before this meeting started. [5:39] Just want to acknowledge that that was [5:40] received by the city council. I got some [5:43] printouts of written correspondence if the council would like. Thank you. [5:48] Uh, council members, any questions for [5:49] Luke? [5:51] Um, I have a clarifying question for our [5:53] city attorney, Jim. Uh, public hearing [5:56] is for the PUB amendment only, correct? [5:59] Because that's what's specified in code [6:00] is correct. [6:01] >> Okay. [6:02] >> Um, [6:04] so at this time, I'm going to go ahead [6:06] and open the public hearing. This is an [6:07] opportunity for anybody in the audience [6:09] joining us that would like to speak to [6:10] this agenda item only. Please feel free [6:12] to step up to the podium, state your [6:13] name and address for the record, and [6:14] proceed with your comments. Under the [6:17] rules of a public hearing here in [6:18] Oakdale, comments are limited to three [6:20] minutes per person. [6:27] » Good evening, mayor, members of the [6:28] council. My name is Ed Capables with Mr. [6:30] Car Wash. Today, we're asking for two [6:33] actions on the vacant former Hardies [6:34] Pad. First, an amendment moving car wash [6:37] from the prohibited use list to a [6:38] conditional use. And then second, a [6:40] conditional use permit for our facility. [6:43] On August 6th, your planning commission [6:45] heard the staff report, recommend [6:46] denial, heard our presentation, held the [6:49] public hearing, and voted unanimously to [6:51] recommend approval of both of our [6:52] requests. [6:54] The question before you is whether this [6:55] use fits Tartan Crossing, and the city's [6:58] own record answers it. The stated intent [7:01] of the PUD is to provide a compact, [7:03] walkable, mixeduse development. However, [7:05] through the city's own policy decisions, [7:08] what has been built does not reflect [7:09] this original vi vision. In 2014, the [7:13] council amended this PUD to permit motor [7:15] fuel sales and approved the coffee shop [7:17] drive-thru. In 2016, the council [7:20] approved the drive-through restaurant on [7:21] this very pad, further degrading the [7:23] intent of the PUD. In 2022, the PUD was [7:27] amended again, which removed grocery [7:29] pickup kiosk sales from the list of [7:31] prohibited uses and raise the [7:32] drive-through cap from 5 to 8. Each of [7:35] these was a deliberate policy decision, [7:37] which now results in over a million [7:39] visits to the Tartan Crossing Pud. [7:42] The planning commission asked thoughtful [7:44] questions. They asked about our traffic. [7:46] Our analysis shows 123 fewer daily trips [7:50] than a standard fast food restaurant. On [7:52] stacking, we hold 22 vehicles in the POS [7:55] queuing lanes with the potential for 35 [7:57] on site. [7:59] Projected peak demand is 59 cars an [8:01] hour, while the store has the capacity [8:02] to process up to 120 an hour. Since [8:05] capacity is roughly double demand, the [8:07] queueing lane drains faster than it than [8:09] it forms. [8:11] The city engineer has reviewed our [8:12] traffic and stacking analysis and found [8:14] it compliant. And this proposal will not [8:16] create negative external externalities [8:18] and nuance conditions. Noise was also [8:21] discussed by the commissioners and was [8:22] brought up during the public hearing. [8:24] Every vehicle is washed inside the [8:25] building with silencers on the blowers [8:27] and no outdoor speakers anywhere on the [8:29] site. [8:31] Obviously, we are still in the design [8:32] phase, but we plan to enclose the vacuum [8:34] producer and will increase the height of [8:35] the retaining walls in the back. Make no [8:38] mistake, we will meet the city's noise [8:39] requirements and will provide a sound [8:41] study at the site plan review to conform [8:43] adherence to the code. Finally, we sat [8:46] down with the residents at new [8:47] perspective, showed them our renderings [8:49] and asked for their feedback. No major [8:52] objections were raised and they told us [8:54] they walked that area and value the [8:55] bench near the pond. So, we will [8:57] incorporate pedestrian amenities into [8:59] our plan which are consistent with the [9:00] beauty requirements. [9:02] Today, this pad is not producing any [9:04] economic activity. What we are proposing [9:06] is entirely privately funded. No public [9:09] subsidy, no off-site infrastructure. [9:11] This proposal activates an underutilized [9:13] pad and puts the site back to work. We [9:16] respectfully request that the council [9:17] approved the PUB amendment and [9:19] conditional use permit. Thank you. Glad [9:21] to answer any happy to answer any [9:22] questions. [9:23] >> Thank you. Uh during a public hearing, [9:24] there aren't any questions from council [9:26] for those speaking. Is there anybody [9:28] else that would like to speak under the [9:29] public hearing tonight? [9:38] Hi, mayor and members of council. My [9:40] name is Rowan Oxenfield. I've lived in [9:42] Oakdale for about 23 years. I'm here [9:45] tonight to speak in support of the [9:46] proposed Mr. Car Wash development. I [9:49] wanted to speak because I have a unique [9:51] perspective on this project. Not only [9:53] have I lived in Oakdale most of my life, [9:55] but I recently joined Mr. Car Wash [9:57] through its management training program. [9:59] As someone who's still pretty new to the [10:01] company, I've had the chance to see [10:02] firsthand how they have invested in [10:04] their employees, their customers, and [10:06] the communities where they operate. [10:08] Before working for Mister, I never [10:10] thought much about car washes. But since [10:11] joining the company, I've learned a lot [10:13] about what's going goes into running a [10:15] modern car wash. It's not just about [10:17] cleaning cars. It's about creating a [10:19] convenient and enjoyable experience that [10:21] people use regularly, especially here in [10:23] Minnesota where road salt, snow, and [10:25] changing weather can be rough on [10:26] vehicles. Having that option available [10:28] right here in Oakdale would save [10:30] residents time and keep more of the [10:31] spending in our community. [10:33] What has impressed me most as a new [10:35] employee is the culture. I've been given [10:37] opportunities to learn, develop [10:39] leadership skills, and prepare for a [10:40] long-term career. For someone just [10:43] starting out in management program [10:44] that's meaningful. This location would [10:46] create jobs and provide opportunities [10:48] for others who are looking for training, [10:50] growth, and career path like the one I'm [10:53] pursuing. As a resident, I want Oakdale [10:56] to continue growing in ways that make [10:57] sense. This project would bring a useful [11:00] service to to the community, create [11:01] local jobs, and add to commercial [11:03] amenities that residents expect. I [11:06] believe this would be a positive [11:07] addition addition to Oakdale, and I [11:08] respectfully encourage the council to [11:10] approve the proposal. Thank you for your [11:12] time and consideration. [11:14] >> Thank you, [11:19] » Mr. Mayor and council members. My name [11:21] is Rick Tim. I'm the owner of the All [11:23] Family Dental Professional Building at [11:26] 1075 Hadley Avenue North. This is just [11:28] west of the proposed site. Um, in case [11:32] others don't know this, there are [11:34] actually eight car washes within 3 miles [11:37] of this location. We are not short of [11:40] car washes. If you include the ones out [11:42] uh six miles, there are six additional [11:46] ones. So, there's there's 14 car washes [11:49] for people to choose from. We are not [11:51] short on car washes. [11:53] Having said that, and having a compact [11:56] time, I don't see any com compelling [11:59] evidence that we need another car wash [12:02] that would overrule the planned unit [12:05] development that was thoughtfully uh [12:07] done in 2011. [12:10] the the city bought that [12:12] property and it was it turned into quite [12:15] a blighted uh property and it was it was [12:18] after two years of planning this was was [12:21] determined to be the best alternative [12:23] and I think we have to give them credit [12:25] for perhaps having that right. I did [12:28] hear the the car wash agents talk about [12:32] the the appropriateness of more [12:35] autocentric things in in this [12:37] development by saying, "Well, you have a [12:39] gas station." Well, we had a gas station [12:41] anyways. Gas stations tend to go [12:43] together and there's a Circle K. An old [12:46] Holiday was right next door and if [12:48] you're going to get a if you're going to [12:50] get a a fast food restaurant, you're [12:52] going to get a uh drive-thru. Having [12:55] said that, it's not the same use. Those facilities are not noisy. They [13:02] will not produce any unusual noise over [13:05] their normal course of business. [13:07] However, the vacuum pumps, the vacuum [13:10] stations, [13:11] 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m., 7 days a week, [13:15] four weeks a month, 12 months a year, after year after year. I I I sit in [13:21] the dental office often times and I I [13:24] see residents, young and old, going [13:27] around that that uh rain garden. I call [13:29] it a rain garden. I know it's a sewer [13:31] management thing, but I call it a rain [13:33] garden. And uh they're having the quiet [13:36] enjoyment of that. And I think that was [13:38] what the planned unit development uh [13:40] initial was thinking would be the best [13:43] use. This is for sure not what they were [13:46] thinking about. [13:48] Um, [13:49] ultimately I think the the rule of city [13:52] governance is not to unduly weigh the [13:54] benefits of increased property values. I [13:57] don't really care that it's producing [13:58] taxes or not. The city might um the [14:02] benefits to to me as a business owner, [14:04] the benefits Mr. car wash as a business [14:07] order, but I think it's supposed to [14:10] represent the changes that are in the [14:12] public good and ultimately in the best [14:14] interest of residents. [14:17] And I really don't think that this makes [14:18] the cut in my opinion. And I have other uh data that I shared with [14:24] you by email. Thank you. [14:27] >> Thank you. [14:32] » Hi there. So, [clears throat] I'm Dean [14:33] Wangren at 655015th Street Circle North [14:37] in Oakdale. So, I want to speak out in [14:39] favor of the car wash. Um, I live about [14:44] four blocks away and I think it'd be [14:45] really handy to have one of the faster [14:47] um conveyor belt style car washes. So, [14:50] um I don't know if there's eight car [14:52] washes nearby. There's certainly like [14:53] three car washes within a reasonable [14:55] distance, but they're all kind of the [14:56] gas station attached ones. And what I [14:58] noticed, especially in the spring, [14:59] they're really slow. So, it'd be great [15:01] if there was one that uh especially when [15:04] it's kind of rainy and mucky out, you [15:05] could go quickly and get your car [15:06] washed. And I'm hoping this could do [15:08] that. Um, also, it'd be really handy [15:10] because it's right by Hi, so that's [15:12] where we get our gas. We could just run [15:13] over and wash a car. [15:16] All right. Well, that's it. Thank you. [15:20] >> Is there anybody else that would like to [15:21] speak under the public hearing tonight? [15:32] Hello, my name is Marina Hernandez and I [15:35] work for All Family Dental. We have a [15:38] lot of residents that come from local [15:40] areas and after speaking with a resident [15:45] at the new uh perspective. It sounds [15:49] like a lot of the residents there are [15:52] not necessarily in favor of a car wash. [15:54] they would prefer a restaurant. I do [15:57] understand the value of having a car [16:00] wash. However, [16:02] again, I do agree that we're [sighs] [16:04] going to have more traffic, which is [16:07] good for our community. However, [16:12] right now what I notice working [16:16] at the off dental office with the [16:19] construction, I don't foresee that we [16:22] have the correct [16:24] traffic meters there to manage if we [16:28] add. So, I guess I would want to know [16:30] are we going to add additional traffic [16:32] meters there, stop signs, stop light to [16:36] help with that? And I do have concerns [16:38] for the people that do live next door at [16:41] New Perspective because is this the best [16:44] option for them because some of them [16:46] don't travel and it would be nice for [16:48] them to have a restaurant next door [16:50] again. Thank you. [16:52] >> Thank you. [16:55] Is there anybody else that would like to [16:56] speak under tonight's public hearing? [17:01] Seeing none, I'm going to go ahead and [17:02] close the public hearing. Bring it back [17:03] up for council consideration. Council [17:04] members, uh, do we have any additional [17:08] questions, uh, for city staff? [17:11] Jim, do you have anything for us? [17:15] >> Uh, Mr. Mayor, I will after a motion is [17:18] made. [17:18] >> Okay. Uh, council members, two motions [17:20] in front of us. Is there somebody that [17:21] would like to make the first motion? [17:25] >> Um, I will make the first motion. I [17:27] recommend we wave reading and adopt [17:30] resolution [17:32] 2026-57 [17:35] denying an application for an amendment [17:37] to the Tartan Crossing planned unit [17:40] development to allow a car wash at 7099 [17:44] 111th Street North. [17:46] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [17:47] >> Second. [17:48] >> Motion and a second. Comments. Jim. [17:51] >> Uh Mr. [17:53] Members of council, uh, I recommend we [17:55] add an additional finding to the, uh, [17:57] proposed resolution based on, uh, [17:59] statements that were made by the [18:00] applicant tonight. And my suggested [18:03] wording of that for an additional [18:05] finding is that, uh, unlike the current [18:08] proposed use, previous amendments to the [18:11] Taton Crossing PUD uh, referenced by the [18:15] applicant did not involve a use that was [18:18] exclusively for vehicles. [18:21] Okay. [18:23] Uh, [18:25] council members, is there anybody that [18:26] would like to offer an amendment adding [18:28] that additional finding to the [18:30] underlying resolution? [18:33] >> Yeah, I'll make that motion to add that [18:35] additional language. [18:36] >> There's a motion on the amendment. Is [18:37] there a second? [18:38] >> Second. [18:38] >> Motion to second. All those in favor say [18:39] I. [18:40] >> I. Opposed. And the amendment is [18:42] adopted. Back to uh resolution 2026-57 [18:46] as amended. Uh any conversation on that, [18:53] Jim? Anything else? [18:55] >> No. [18:55] >> Okay. Uh we've had a motion. We've had a [18:59] second. Uh all those in favor say I. [19:01] >> I. Opposed. And resolution 2026-57 [19:05] denying an application is adopted. [19:07] >> Uh Jim, since we um are not amending the [19:11] PUD, is the CUP action necessary or is [19:14] it moot? [19:16] >> Mr. Mayor, yes, that that there's still [19:17] an action necessary on that because it [19:20] is a pending application that's subject [19:21] to a time limit and [snorts] uh the [19:25] findings in there are based on the fact [19:26] that because you did not approve the PD [19:29] amendment, the use is not allowed and [19:31] therefore you can't grant a CUP for it. [19:33] >> Got it. Uh will somebody make that [19:35] action? [19:39] » Sure. Sure. I'll make that motion that [19:40] uh we wave reading and adopt resolution [19:42] 2026-58 denying denying an application [19:45] for a conditional use permit for car [19:47] wash at 709911 Street North. [19:50] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [19:51] >> Second. [19:51] >> Motion and a second. Any final comments? [19:54] >> Seeing none, all those in favor say I. [19:55] >> I. [19:56] >> Opposed? And resolution 2026-58 [19:59] is adopted. Uh next we'll move into open [20:02] forum. Um before we open the floor to [20:04] any comments, we have three action or [20:06] three items on the agenda in front of us [20:08] tonight. First up, uh, the 2025 [20:10] GreenStep Cities Award presentation. [20:13] We have a staff presentation. Oh, hi. [20:15] [laughter] [20:17] Welcome. [20:22] Good evening, mayor, council members, [20:25] um, and thank you to Hannah for the [20:27] invite this evening. As the Minnesota [20:29] Greenep City's co-director at the [20:31] Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, um I [20:34] am pleased to join you this evening to [20:37] recognize the city of Oakdale's [20:39] achievement and progress in the [20:40] GreenStep program. Oakdale joined the [20:43] program in March of 2012, reaching step [20:46] one by signing a council resolution. [20:49] Since that time, the city has processed [20:52] or progressed through all five steps of [20:54] the program uh and has achieved steps [20:57] four and five. nine years in a row now. [21:01] Um you are one of the longest uh tenur [21:04] cities reaching step four and five uh in [21:07] the program. [21:09] Oakdale has reported 55 actions [21:11] completing 20 of the 29 sustainability [21:14] best practices that range from education [21:16] and outreach to um implementation and [21:21] infrastructure [21:23] planning and policy and more. [21:26] Steps four and five are achieved [21:27] annually by reporting and annual [21:29] analyzing outcomes [21:31] that those actions have had on the [21:33] community over time and showing [21:35] improvement in metrics. [21:38] The menu of metrics includes 125 unique [21:42] data points of which Oakdale has [21:44] reported 90 in this last year. Um, and I [21:47] wanted to highlight just a few of those [21:50] metrics that um kind of rose to our [21:53] attention as as um interesting and [21:56] notable. So, between 2016 and 2025 of [22:00] all reporting years, Oakdale has seen an [22:02] increase in LED lighting used in city [22:04] buildings um grow from 2% in 2016 as [22:08] reported to 50% in 2025, maybe a little [22:11] bit more with some city hall remodeling. [22:15] The city added its first city-owned or [22:17] leased electric vehicle to the city [22:19] fleet in 2025 with the police [22:21] department. [22:23] 100% of Oakdale's housing is located [22:26] within one mile of a bicycle route and [22:29] 96.5% is located within a half mile of a [22:32] parkland. [22:34] The city planted 347 [22:37] net new trees in 2025 and gave away an [22:40] additional 200 trees um for free to [22:43] residents with the Arbor Day tree [22:45] giveaway. [22:47] Oakdale purchased just under 3,800 [22:51] megawatt hours per year of renewable [22:53] energy for city operations in 2025, [22:56] which makes up 97% of total city [23:00] operation electricity needs. uh up from [23:03] 0% in 2018. [23:06] And the city f hosted its first eco in [23:08] April of 2025 with 18 vendors [23:11] representing local watershed district [23:14] energy nonprofits, garden clubs, and [23:16] more. So with that, just a little [23:19] snapshot of what um has been reported [23:22] for the city and the program. Um, I'd [23:25] like to bring to you today your 2026 [23:30] recognition blocks for your 2025 [23:32] reporting. Um, and congratulate you on [23:35] reaching step four and five again this [23:37] year. [23:38] >> Uh, council, let's go down and grab a [23:39] photo. [23:42] » I wore my green shirt. [laughter] [23:52] » Your mom, too. [23:54] We're doing all the work [laughter] [23:58] here. Come on in the middle. [24:01] >> Yep. [24:04] » All right. [24:16] » [applause] [24:26] » a slide here. [24:27] >> Yeah. [24:30] » Right. [24:32] >> Well, before we move on, I just want to [24:34] say um a big thank you to our team. Uh [24:37] beginning with Hannah Dunn, our senior [24:38] community development specialist who [24:39] leads all of our [24:42] um do absolutely incredible work in this [24:44] space. um you you keep our environmental [24:46] management commission on track and [24:48] focused. Um you know, all of those data [24:51] metrics behind the scenes. You know, it [24:53] it's easy to just look at two little [24:55] blocks of wood and say, "Yay, us." But [24:57] there is so much data that goes into [24:58] these applications every single year. [25:00] And it's it's our talented community [25:01] development team led by Hannah's efforts [25:03] um that bring all of that information to [25:05] life. So, a big thank you uh for all of [25:07] your great work. Also, a big thank you [25:09] to our environmental management [25:10] commission. um you know things like the [25:12] ecoair um started as a wild brainchild [25:15] of that from of theirs at at some point [25:17] um and now that we've done it two years [25:19] in a row it's getting bigger and better [25:20] every single year making a huge impact [25:23] um towards the goals of the green [25:25] program. So, um, a lot of progress has [25:27] been made. Um, whether it's, you know, [25:29] the programs that we've brought back [25:30] like our community cleanup event in the fall each year, the new events [25:34] that we're creating, and all of the good [25:36] work that um all of our city staff are [25:38] doing every single day to uh support the the GreenStep program. So, a big [25:43] thank you to our team. Kelly, please [25:44] share that throughout the organization. [25:45] Hannah, thank you for everything you do [25:47] um to keep us all on track and and keep [25:49] us meeting our goals. We do appreciate [25:51] it. [25:54] » [applause] [25:57] » Uh we also have a couple proclamations [25:59] um that I'm issuing. Uh first up [26:01] recognizing building and code [26:03] professional appreciation day. Uh [26:06] whereas building and code professionals [26:07] ensure that all aspects of building code [26:10] administration, code enforcement, rental [26:11] housing, licensing, and other duties are [26:13] per performed in a timely and [26:15] professional manner. And whereas [26:16] building and code professionals devote [26:18] countless hours keeping up with [26:20] regulation changes that affect the [26:21] building and code enforcement [26:22] industries. And whereas uh building and [26:25] code professionals are primarily out in [26:27] the field where they can encounter rough [26:28] terrain, heights, depths, narrow spaces, [26:31] construction equipment and activities, [26:32] unfavorable weather, especially in [26:34] Minnesota. Uh I rate people hopefully [26:37] not canines and other potential hazards. [26:40] Uh whereas despite hazards, building and [26:42] code professionals are fully dedicated [26:44] to ensuring that buildings are built [26:46] strong, they're built safe, and they [26:48] remain secure um for everybody in our [26:50] community. And whereas the city of [26:51] Oakdale strongly supports the skilled [26:53] work of its building and code [26:54] professionals. Therefore, I mayor of [26:56] Oakdale, Minnesota, do hereby proclaim [26:58] September 1st as building and code [26:59] professional appreciation day in the [27:01] city of Oakdale. Um we are incredibly [27:04] fortunate to have an outstanding team [27:06] here in our city. Um, it falls under our [27:09] community development department. Um, [27:11] you know, Greg Brady, our chief building [27:12] official, man, we have thrown a lot at [27:14] him the last few years. As you look at [27:16] all of the building that's happening in [27:17] our community in the east metro, um, [27:19] every day is something new. And that [27:21] work is done on top of just those daily [27:24] duties. You know, enforcing the city [27:26] code, doing the rental license [27:27] inspections, all of that necessary work [27:29] that happens whether a community is is [27:31] building and developing or not. um they [27:34] cover so much ground and uh we could not [27:37] be a city, a safe city, a stable city [27:39] without their efforts. So we really do [27:41] thank them for everything they [27:42] contribute to our community. [27:44] Our second proclamation is recognizing [27:47] suicide prevention awareness month. [27:49] Whereas suicide is a national public [27:50] health challenge that causes [27:52] immeasurable pain among individuals, [27:54] families, and communities across the [27:55] country. And whereas more than 800 lives [27:58] are lost in Minnesota each year. And [28:00] whereas suicide is the second leading [28:02] cause of death for people ages 10 to 24. [28:05] And whereas on average 132 Americans die [28:08] by suicide each day and over two million [28:10] attempt suicide each year. And whereas [28:13] public awareness of this tragic problem [28:15] is key to preventing further suffering [28:17] and loss of life. And whereas the risk [28:19] for suicide can be reduced through [28:21] awareness, education, and treatment. [28:24] And whereas everyone in in the community [28:26] can play a role in preventing suicide [28:28] and are encouraged to know the signs, [28:30] find the words, and reach out. And [28:32] whereas depression is a treatable [28:34] illness and approximately 80% of people [28:36] who seek help for depression experience [28:38] improvement when treated with therapy [28:39] and/or medication. [28:41] And whereas support is available by [28:43] calling the National Suicide and Crisis [28:44] Lifeline at 988 or 1 8002738255. [28:50] or you can text home to the crisis text [28:52] line at 741741. [28:54] Therefore, I Kevin Zel, mayor of [28:55] Oakdale, Minnesota, to hereby proclaim [28:57] September as suicide prevention [28:58] awareness month in the city of Oakdale. [29:01] You know, each year it seems like the [29:02] stats um related to suicide and [29:04] attempted suicide continue to climb off [29:06] the charts. You know, we all know that [29:08] the the need for mental and behavioral [29:11] health supports in every single [29:13] community grows um exponentially. Um we [29:16] know especially in certain professions [29:19] the the rate of suicide and attempt of [29:20] suicide is even higher. Um calling on [29:23] all of us to provide more support to [29:25] those professions uh those individuals [29:27] in those professions as well. In Oakdale [29:29] we're incredibly proud to be um now [29:31] delivering not rolling out. We are [29:33] delivering um mental and behavioral [29:35] health supports through our police [29:36] department uh through a partnership with [29:38] Washington County. um if that if those [29:41] efforts and those dollars spent on that [29:43] work um saves even one life, it is well [29:45] worth it. Um and we're just so um [29:48] excited to um be able to provide that [29:51] new level of support in our community [29:53] because the need has been there for so [29:54] long. So, we recognize suicide [29:56] prevention awareness month in September, [29:58] but as I said, it's all it's an all year [30:00] um long endeavor that we all need to [30:02] play a role in recognizing the science [30:05] of it, providing the support for those [30:07] individuals um facing those those [30:10] challenges in life and getting them to [30:11] the resources they need um to help [30:13] address that. We're still under open [30:16] forum. Um this is a time for anybody [30:18] who's joining us here at the Discovery [30:20] Center. If you'd like to share anything [30:21] with us, um, regardless of the topic, [30:23] please feel free to step up to the [30:24] podium, state your name and address for [30:26] the record, and proceed with your [30:27] comments. [30:34] Before we move on from open forum, that [30:37] stat 96.5% of all homes in Oakdale are [30:40] within one mile, I think it was one mile [30:42] or half mile of parkland. I want to know [30:43] where that three and a half% are. We got [30:46] a problem to fix. [laughter] [30:48] >> We're having what 31 parks now. I I [30:51] cannot picture in my head where those [30:54] homes would be, but we have some work in [30:56] front of us. So, all right, let's move [30:59] into consensus motions. Council members, [31:00] we have A through E in front of us. Are [31:02] there any that we need to pull for [31:04] individual consideration? [31:07] >> All right. Uh, hearing none. Can I get a [31:10] motion to approve consensus motions as [31:11] presented? [31:12] Make a motion to approve consensus [31:14] motions as presented. [31:15] >> Motion. Is there a second? [31:16] >> Second. [31:16] >> Motion in a second. All those in favor [31:18] say I. [31:18] >> I. I. [31:19] >> Opposed. And A through E are adopted. Uh [31:23] let's check in with our advisory boards [31:25] and commissions. The only one that met [31:26] was parks and wreck. They met on last [31:29] Tuesday. Yeah. [31:30] >> Mhm. [31:30] >> A week ago. Council member Morham, what [31:32] are they working on? [31:33] >> Yeah, I know. We talked about the [31:35] excitement around the new parks. Excuse [31:37] me. Here. [31:40] uh the new parks that are going to be [31:41] worked on Tower and Golf View. Also, the [31:43] engagement coming up for Tanners and [31:45] there's been a lot of engagement. [31:46] There's more coming this week about up [31:48] upgrades there. And also next month [31:50] they're going to be holding their [31:51] walking tour at uh Everly Park. So, [31:55] their meeting for parks and wreck will [31:57] be there and that'll be shared out [31:59] publicly soon. [32:00] >> Fantastic. [32:02] Once we get that date set and out there, [32:04] we hope everybody can join us in Everly. [32:07] Uh we'll move on to award bids. Nothing [32:10] under there. So, we'll go into staff [32:11] reports. Uh we have a presentation from [32:15] community development. We got a few [32:16] items. [32:19] Thank you again, Mayor Council. So, [32:22] uh this next request is from Les Schwab. [32:25] The property is located at the southeast [32:27] quadrant of 34th Street and Marketplace [32:30] just uh it's located west of the [32:31] McDonald's there by Target. Uh the [32:34] purpose of the request is that Lehwab [32:36] Tire Center, they're seeking approval to [32:38] build an automotive service and repair [32:40] business. The request involves a [32:42] preliminary plat to create three lots [32:44] and a site plan. So the property in [32:47] total is about 7 and a half acres. It's [32:49] vacant land. The zoning of the site is [32:51] Oakdale Marketplace uh planned unit [32:53] development or PUD. So if you recall [32:55] that in response to a court order, the [32:57] city recently approved an ordinance [32:59] amendment and a resolution to allow the [33:01] proposed use at the site. So the [33:04] preliminary plat involves proposed lot [33:07] one, which is about 1 acre, and that [33:08] would contain the tire store. Uh the [33:11] other two outlots consisting of about 1 [33:13] acre and 5 acres would be reserved for [33:15] future development. The proposed access [33:18] to the Le Schwab site is off of 33rd [33:20] Street. That's a private street. for [33:23] park dedication that has to be satisfied [33:24] as part of the platting and development [33:27] agreement process. A credit will be [33:28] given for the park dedication that was [33:31] collected for the overall plat of [33:32] Oakdale Marketplace back in the year [33:34] 2005. [33:36] In terms of the site plan, certain [33:38] elements uh including building height, [33:40] setbacks, lot coverage, parking, [33:41] landscaping, exterior building [33:43] materials, and site lighting. Those have [33:45] been met. I would like to note that the [33:47] developer made a slight update to their [33:50] site plan to include six extra parking [33:52] spaces and a larger trash enclosure which complies with the site [33:57] plan requirements for storm water [33:59] management. The developer will need to [34:00] work with the wershed district and the [34:02] city engineer to ensure that proper [34:04] provisions are installed accordingly. [34:07] And due to the property being located [34:08] next to county highway 14, Washington [34:11] County Public Works reviewed the request [34:13] and they did not have any comments on [34:15] it. The planning commission held the [34:17] required public hearing for this request [34:18] on August 6th and they recommended [34:20] approval. So staff recommends approval [34:23] of the plat and site plan subject to [34:25] conditions in the resolutions. Uh so [34:28] first is resolution 2026-53 [34:30] in the agenda packet. So five conditions [34:32] of approval that I will summarize here. [34:35] The number one is execution of a [34:36] development agreement. Number two is [34:38] appro uh seek approval of the site civil [34:40] construction plans. Number three [34:42] satisfaction of park dedication [34:44] requirements. Number four, obtain [34:45] approval from the fire department for [34:47] the location of fire department [34:49] connections and hydrants. And number [34:50] five, the developer must obtain outside [34:53] government agency approvals that apply [34:56] to the proposal. [34:58] Uh the other resolution for the site [35:01] plan, that's 2026-54. [35:03] I will forgo reading those conditions [35:05] because they are redundant from the [35:07] other resolution that I just mentioned. [35:09] But happy to answer any questions. Thank [35:10] you. [35:11] >> Council members, any questions for Luke? [35:14] Seeing none, who would like to make the [35:15] resolutions? [35:17] >> I recommend we wave reading and adopt [35:20] resolution 2026-53 [35:25] approving the preliminary plat for [35:28] Oakdale Marketplace 7th edition subject [35:31] to conditions. [35:32] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [35:33] >> Second. [35:34] >> Motion a second. In conversation, [35:36] >> all those in favor say I. [35:37] >> I. [35:38] >> Opposed. Resolution 2026-53 is adopted. [35:42] How about the next action? [35:44] >> I recommend we wave reading and adopt [35:46] resolution 2026-54 [35:50] approving the site plan for Lewab [35:53] subject to conditions. [35:54] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [35:56] >> Second. [35:56] >> Motion a second. Any final comments? [35:59] >> All those in favor say I. [36:00] >> I. Opposed. Resolution 2026-54 is [36:04] adopted. [36:05] Uh next up on the agenda, Luke, are you [36:08] do you have a presentation for this one? [36:10] >> Yes. Thank you. So, Josiah Center is [36:13] requesting a conditional use permit to [36:15] allow a church at 533 Hayward Avenue [36:18] North, unit 100. The property is zoned [36:20] B3. That's our light industrial [36:22] district. Places of worship are [36:24] permitted through the conditional use [36:25] permit process for all zoning districts [36:27] in Oakdale. [clears throat] Uh after [36:29] review, the proposed church meets the [36:31] criteria for granting a conditional use [36:33] permit and the zoning ordinance and [36:35] staff's analysis of the request. [36:37] >> [clears throat] [36:37] >> The planning commission held the public [36:39] hearing for this application on August 6 [36:42] and they recommended approval. Staff [36:43] recommends approval of this CUP subject [36:46] to just one condition and this is in [36:48] resolution 2026-56. [36:51] So no parking signage shall be installed [36:54] along the east drive aisle and along the [36:56] north side of the building and that's [36:57] just to ensure that we can adequately [36:59] have our emergency vehicles navigate the [37:02] site for the church. Yeah, happy to [37:05] answer questions. Thank you. Council [37:06] members, any questions for Luke on this [37:08] item? [clears throat] [37:09] >> All right. Who wants to dive right in? [37:11] >> I move we wave reading and adopt [37:13] resolution 2026-56 [37:15] approving a conditional use permit for a [37:17] place of worship church at 533 Hayward [37:20] Avenue North with conditions included in [37:22] the attached resolution. [37:23] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [37:24] >> Second. [37:25] >> Motion and a second. Final comments. All [37:27] those in favor say I. [37:28] >> I. [37:29] >> Opposed. Resolution 2026-56 is adopted. [37:33] Last item. Luke. [37:36] Thank you. So, this final request uh for [37:39] a conditional use permit, it's from True [37:40] Line Sign Company and MC Geneva [37:42] Properties LLC. They're requesting a [37:44] conditional use permit amendment to [37:46] allow for a 24 square ft electronic [37:49] dynamic business sign at 1267 Geneva. So [37:53] there was previously an 11 square foot [37:54] electronic sign on that property that [37:56] was approved back in 2010, but this [37:58] amendment is to of course enlarge or [38:01] allow a much larger electronic sign [38:04] there. Property is zone B1 commercial [38:06] and it contains an existing multi-tenant [38:09] commercial building. The proposed [38:11] electronic dynamic business sign meets [38:13] the general and specific criteria of the [38:15] zoning ordinance. and staff's analysis [38:18] of the request. The planning commission [38:19] held the required public hearing for [38:21] this application on August 6th and they [38:23] recommended approval. So, as such, staff [38:26] is recommending approval of this request [38:28] subject to eight conditions in the [38:30] resolution 2026-55 [38:32] in the agenda packet. So, do my best to [38:35] summarize these conditions here. So, [38:37] number one is that the sign shall be [38:39] installed on the existing sign, pylon [38:41] sign or a replacement pylon sign if the [38:43] existing pylon sign is removed. Number [38:46] two, the sign shall have a minimum [38:47] display duration of 30 seconds. Number [38:50] three, um only static messages on the [38:53] sign. Number four, the sign cannot [38:56] exceed 24 square ft in size. And number [38:58] five, uh the sign shall not exceed 2500 [39:02] knits between the hours of civil sunrise [39:05] and sunset. Um actually, so number six [39:09] is a modification or a modified [39:11] condition from the planning commission [39:12] when uh we brought that to them. Uh, so [39:15] the sign because it's next to [39:18] residential property, it's subject to [39:20] having more restrictive illumination [39:22] standards at at night time from 10 p.m. [39:24] to 6:00 a.m. It cannot exceed uh 250 [39:28] nits. Number seven, the sign shall have [39:31] a functional off switch that uh [39:34] automatically turns the display off if [39:37] the display deteriorates by 10% or more. [39:40] And finally, number eight, the applicant [39:41] must obtain a signed permit through the [39:43] city. Happy to answer questions. Thank [39:45] you. [39:46] >> Council members, any questions for Luke [39:47] on this cup? Seeing none, who wants to [39:50] dive in? [39:51] >> I move we wave reading and adopt [39:52] resolution 2026-55 [39:55] approving a conditional use permit [39:56] amendment for an electronic message sign [39:58] at 1267 Geneva Avenue North with [40:01] conditions included in the attached [40:02] resolution. [40:03] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [40:04] >> Second. [40:05] >> Motion a second. Any final comments? All [40:07] those in favor say I. [40:09] >> I oppose. Resolution 2026-55 [40:13] is adopted. Thank you, Luke. [40:16] >> Uh, busy night for Luke. He got a lot. [40:19] [laughter] [40:20] >> Uh, let's move on to checking with our [40:22] city attorney, Jim. Anything for us [40:23] tonight? [40:24] >> Uh, Mr. Mayor and Council, nothing. [40:25] further. Happy to answer [40:27] questions. [40:27] >> Anything for Jim? [40:29] >> All right, let's check in with our city [40:31] administrator, Kelly. What do you have [40:32] for us tonight? [40:33] >> I do not have anything for you tonight. [40:34] Thank you, mayor. [40:35] >> All right, anybody have any questions [40:37] for Kelly? [40:39] Uh, let's move on to council [40:40] presentations. [40:42] I'm already looking this way. Anything [40:43] down here? [40:43] >> I do. [40:44] >> All right, Council Member Moore, take it [40:45] away. [40:46] >> All right. Um, well, we had last week [40:48] the employee appreciation event for the [40:50] city and I just wanted to um thank the [40:53] committee that planned it and um it just [40:57] thank all the city staff. I mean, what [40:59] an incredible event. Um, my favorite was [41:02] seeing the animals paired with their [41:04] owners. Um, that that was fun. It was [41:08] fun. [41:08] >> Pictures, right? [41:09] >> Pictures. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Um, who [41:11] owned which animal? Maybe that's a [41:13] better way to say it. But just really [41:15] huge thank you to our city staff for [41:16] everything they do and to the committee [41:18] that plans so much for them. [41:20] >> Does anybody have a llama or a peacock [41:23] or anything funny? [41:23] >> There was no llama, but there was a [41:27] cockatil. Cockatil. [41:29] >> Oh, [41:31] >> belonging to [41:32] >> Yeah. I wish I could remember. We made a [41:34] like there were jokes. There were jokes. [41:36] [laughter] [41:37] >> Michaela Wagy from finance. [41:38] >> Who? Who did? [41:39] >> Michaela Wagy from finance. [41:41] >> Okay. [laughter] [41:42] Um, but yeah, that was fun. [41:43] >> Very cool. Very cool. Uh, Council Member [41:46] Rich, anything? [41:47] >> No. [41:47] >> All right. How about down here? Nothing [41:49] for me. [41:50] >> Nothing here. [41:51] >> All right. I have a few announcements um [41:53] to share about upcoming happenings in [41:56] the city. Uh tomorrow night we h Yeah, [41:58] tomorrow uh tomorrow night we have [42:00] another community engagement um taking [42:03] place down at Tenner Lake Park uh from [42:05] 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. We are looking for [42:07] community feedback on design details [42:09] related to the playground design. Um [42:11] this event will be an open house style. [42:13] Attendees can meet at the park building, [42:15] the the beach house. Um I'm not even [42:18] going to mention the inclement weather [42:19] because it's not going to rain tomorrow, [42:20] I don't think. So we'll be fine. The [42:22] event will be tomorrow, Wednesday, [42:23] August 26, from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. Um, we [42:25] have some pretty cool designs of what [42:27] that playground could look like and so [42:29] we would love the community's feedback [42:30] on that. Uh, a reminder, city offices [42:32] will be closed on Monday, September 7th [42:34] in observance of Labor Day. City [42:36] facilities will reopen the following [42:37] day. As always, emergency services are [42:39] available. Uh, a big reminder, save the [42:42] date, our third annual, third, second [42:46] city cleanup event. Is this our third? [42:48] >> Third. [42:48] Yeah, let's go with that. Um the [42:50] city the citywide cleanup event is back [42:52] on Saturday, September 19th from 9:00 am [42:54] to 1 pm at our brand new public works [42:57] campus. First time it is there, 3200 [42:58] Granada Avenue. Um this is a great [43:01] opportunity for residents to [43:02] conveniently and safely dispose of [43:04] furniture, electronics, hard to recycle [43:06] items. Uh this event is for Oakdale [43:08] residents only. I will be standing out [43:10] there checking IDs. Don't try it all you [43:12] Lake Elmo people. Um and proof of [43:15] residency is required. There we go. [43:16] Also, if you're driving, you're supposed [43:17] to have your driver's license on you [43:18] anyways. So check uh business items will [43:22] not be accepted. Please see the city [43:24] website oakdalem.gov for full [43:26] information on what is accepted, what's [43:28] not accepted, and any fees associated [43:30] with accepted items. Um so glad we [43:32] brought this event back uh 3 years ago. [43:35] Um always a resident uh favorite. Very [43:38] popular event. Stuff naturally [43:39] accumulates in our homes. This is a [43:41] great way to get rid of it at a very [43:43] cost-effective um way. Um, also a big [43:47] thank you to all of our partners um that uh contribute to this event. Um, we [43:53] don't do it alone. So, um, yeah, check [43:55] out the city website for all of those [43:56] items, and we hope to see you out there [43:58] on September 19th from 9:00 a.m. to 1 [44:00] p.m. Uh, a reminder, Oakdale's annual [44:02] photo contest is back. We want to see [44:04] all of your snapshots from every corner [44:05] of our city. Photographers of all skill [44:08] levels can submit photos by September [44:09] 30th. Um, they don't have to be photos [44:11] that you take like on the spot. if you [44:13] have them from earlier in the year, any [44:15] point since the last time we ran this [44:16] contest last fall, we want those photos. [44:18] So, go through your iPhones. Um, do [44:21] people actually print photos anymore? [44:23] No, they don't do that. Um, go through [44:24] your digital cameras. If you have a [44:26] great snapshot of something that [44:28] happened in our city, we want to see it. [44:30] Um, the only rule really is that uh [44:32] photos must be taken in Oakdale. Visit [44:34] the city website, oakdale.gov, for all [44:37] contest rules, um, and to learn how you [44:39] can submit those photos. Uh, another [44:42] reminder, Oakdale, the the city farmers [44:44] market continues every Wednesday from [44:45] 2:00 to 6:00 p.m. at the Walton Park [44:47] West parking lot off of 15th Street. Um, [44:50] we only have eight markets left for the [44:52] season. Cue ominous music. Um, still [44:55] lots of great produce, baked goods. Um, [44:57] you can get your knives sharpened out [44:58] there most weeks. Um, lot of great stuff [45:01] happening out there. Um, there's only [45:04] eight left. That one hurts a little bit [45:06] >> because we know what comes next. Um, [45:08] well, what comes next is the indoor [45:09] market here at the Discovery Center [45:10] during the winter, so we'll be fine. Uh, [45:12] but we hope you can join us at the [45:13] farmers market. Always a lot of great [45:15] shopping can be done there. Uh, finally, [45:18] uh, good luck to our local students, [45:19] teachers, and support staff. They head [45:20] back to school. Um, always a very [45:23] exciting time for the parents. Um, kids, [45:26] hit or miss. Um, but, uh, good luck to [45:29] all of them. Uh, good luck to all of the [45:31] teachers support staff. Good luck to our [45:33] SRO, Officer Brun, um, at Tartan. Um, [45:38] always very exciting when they head back [45:39] to school. So, let's pay some bills. [45:42] Claims roster. Uh, August 13th through [45:45] August 25th. Woo! 4.2 million. Must be [45:48] some construction bills in there. Uh, [45:50] council, do we need to pull any out for [45:54] additional information? [45:55] >> Nope. Let's pay it. All right. Who wants [45:57] to make the motion? I move to approve [46:00] claims for the period of August 13, 2026 [46:03] to August 25th, 2026 in the amount of [46:07] 4,213,1412. [46:13] » There's a motion. Is there a second? [46:14] >> Second. [46:15] >> Motion and a second. All those in favor [46:16] say I. [46:17] >> I. [46:17] >> Opposed. Bills are paid. Can I get a [46:20] motion to adjurnn? [46:20] >> So moved. [46:21] >> There's a motion. Is there a second? [46:22] >> Second. [46:22] >> Motion and a second. All those in favor [46:24] say I. I. Opposed. We're adjourned. [46:27] Thank you and good night.