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If you would like helpYes, but you think, you

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I and not been a. Thank you or

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me about it.

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Good evening,

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everyone. We're going to get

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started. Chair is requested

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that we get started. Welcome

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to welcome to the Oakland

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Public Safety Planning and

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Oversight Commission meeting

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Monday on Tobar 19th 2026. And

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I will call the roll. Chair

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Owens.

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Commissioner to is

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online at. Don't think she's

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available just yet.

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Commissioner Dixon, I'm here.

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Okay. Thank you. You do have a

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quorum chair and I have one

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housekeeping note is that it's

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going to be important that you

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turn your mike off if you're

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not using it, only turn your

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mic on when you when you have.

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We're speaking. Okay. Thank

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you. Thank you all for being

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here this evening. Okay. Next,

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we can move to real class or

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I'm sorry to meeting minutes.

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To prove all moved to prove.

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Last month's meeting minutes.

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My apologies. Share them

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innocent. Making to Okay.

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We'll do that next month and

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thank you, ok? So we can move

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on to public comment. For any

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agenda, aisd items within

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spock's jurisdiction. And

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chair. You have one hand

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raised on zoom as regime and

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al Esmond. Allen point to

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start the clock in just a

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moment. Can begin your

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comments.

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As my dog. You can

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begin your comments. Thank

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you. High rise name district

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4. I have 2 comments regarding

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measure and then spending and

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oversight first. I just wanted

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to raise a question about the

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effectiveness of bp's you fly

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thing coach program. Which

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falls squarely with within

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this commission's oversight

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responsibilities. The Urban

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Institute evaluation that was

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presented here come moments

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ago found no statistically

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detectable relationship

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between youth coaching

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sessions and arrests. And

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David moments earlier,

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cease-fire assessment also

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raised concerns about whether

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violence prevention services

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are reaching those at highest

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risk of violence. Neither

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study proves youths life

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coaching doesn't work. But

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together they raise important

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questions about targeting and

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effectiveness. So job Spock in

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addition to the audit as well

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as evaluation program or if

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he'll be discussing later

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today to examine both the

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findings and ask the vp what

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changes have been made in

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response. My second item was

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that I strongly support opd

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proposed funding for the drone

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as First Responder program

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with their severely

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understaffed police department

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improving 9-1-1. Response

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times is critical. Dia far can

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help officers assessed

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emergencies more quickly

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deploy limited resources, more

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effectively and improve public

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safety. So I urge up spot to

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approve the proposed up our

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funding. This is exactly that

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kind of investment mentioned

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in to support and unnecessary

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funding. Delays would only

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postpone these potential

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public safety benefits. Thank

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you. Thank you for your

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comment. Will definitely bring

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that up with the vp also the d

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if our program was included in

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the cvr p document. And so it

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already has are approval to

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move forward and it's going

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through the process is with

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City Council and other. Well,

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that commissions. If you have,

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if you're on zoom and you

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have. Any comments and public

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comment item number 3 on the

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agenda, please raise your

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hand. Terrell, see any

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additional raise, MR. Boat

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Ride Em in a comment. Okay.

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Thank you. Think that public

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comment chair. And we can move

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on to our first report item,

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which is a presentation from

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opd on their updated spending

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plan.

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Before opd Is there

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someone that can fix the

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monitor over here? I will come

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over and to is it on? It was.

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And then it it says no signal.

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Okay. Okay. Top. We have a

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monitor that is showing no

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signal at this time. Let's

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take 5 minutes to work on the

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tech issues. Okay. Okay. We go

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ahead. We just want okay.

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like a top know that we do

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have an issue with the

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monitor. Chiefs at Tesco will

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come to the podium with even

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see him speak, see and hear

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him speak.

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go. All right. I'm deputy

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Chief Anthony to Des Cohen

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here to present the opd by

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annual update on the 26 27

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budget. And that's part of the

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opd priority spending plan for

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fiscal years. 26 29. I'm just

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going to go through. We have 4

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spending. Items that are

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relevant for this fiscal year.

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Thank So of the 4. Items, the

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expenses for this fiscal year.

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spark requested and the new

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format and the table that has

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each of the items, the

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corresponding expense to see

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the rp goals and strategy and

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then the estimated yearly

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recurring cost. And so the

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first and largest, portion of

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the budget is maintaining

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sworn staff in support a

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ceasefire strategy. Crime

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reduction team in real-time

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operations center. This is an

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expense an estimated expense

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of 22 million do just over. 22

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and a half million. This is 37

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positions within the

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cease-fire section. And the

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real time Operation Center and

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an additional 11 positions

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within the. Crime reduction

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teams. That is in line with

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goals. 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, In the

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strategies to 3, 6, 9, This is

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specifically costs associated

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with the. Salary and benefits

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for sworn police officers in

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those sections. Probably the

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that the simplest to explain.

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cost. It is in line. With the.

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Outline of the measure in the

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cvr. Pete. Currently there is

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a shortfall in the number of

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persons. Assigned in the

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cease-fire section. There are

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4 of this 6 sergeant positions

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filled. And 22 of the 37

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officer positions filled. And

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this is specifically. Because

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of the departments, current

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staffing numbers were at 601,

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in our latest reports. Other

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just isn't enough officers in

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the police department to fill

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for questions on each expense

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or do you, would you like me

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to go all 4 expenses? Prefer?

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report is the police

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dispatchers in our

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communications center. 7

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positions from. 7 positions

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within our dispatch center,

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funded by and in in support of

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goals, 4, 5, 6, and crp and

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strategy 5. This is

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approximately 1.5 Million and

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expense. Is. Currently

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supporting. Were authorized 78

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dispatchers. We currently have

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positions. We do have 80

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persons in the background

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process. So we are. Working

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diligently to get those last

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13 positions filled and hope

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soon that they will be filled.

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the goals are somewhat

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self-explanatory, but this is

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directly related to reducing

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speeds as well as response.

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the efforts of a recruiting in

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background unit. This cost is.

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850,000 in support of goal. 7

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of the crp and strategy.

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Number 5. These this funding

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is specifically for additional

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outreach. So that our

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recruiting background, you

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could have a broader and

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deeper reach. The goal

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associated with this is trying

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to get each of our police

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academies. Filled to the

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absolute maximum that the

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postal out, the highest

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quality. Most qualified

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candidates that we can

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recruit. Are 100 97th Academy

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is set to graduate next month.

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It currently has 18 trainees.

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The 190th is set to graduate

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in MARCH. They have 43.

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then we have 2 more academies

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that will start in. Calendar

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year 2027, 1 again, JANUARY

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and another in JUNE. Both of

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those academies. Will be set

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to graduate in the following

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fiscal year and we don't have

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estimates on the numbers for

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those exits too soon. But

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we're hoping that we will be

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able to staff at least 50 in

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2, each of them. And that's

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what this funding is

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supporting. Additionally. We

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are scheduling. A lateral

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academy. We're hoping for a

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2027 start and 10 officers to

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help bolster numbers. And we

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have also started restarted

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are. Cadet program. And we are

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we have 6, I believe currently

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hired. And we are. Aiming to

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hire 2.18 Next question that

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could get. The 6th at a higher

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where the front. I don't have

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the backgrounds for each of

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the 6 cadets, but there

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Oakland. We're recruiting with

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in Oakland schools. And the

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last expense expense number

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for modernizing investigative

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tools to include the drawn

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First responder program. This

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is a cost of 432,000 in

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support of cvr p goals. 1, 3,

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5, 6, And specifically crp

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strategy. 12. Seeking to

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implement the deal far.

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Program citywide. We are in

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process with the Privacy

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Advisory Committee. We are

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hoping that we will be moving

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forward with a contract

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proposal by the end of the

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year. By the end of the

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calendar year so that we can

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begin this program within this

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fiscal year. And again, the

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dia far program. Is meant to

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support primarily that troll

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division. As well as other

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investigative units to speed

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up response. This is not

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perfect replacement for an air

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support unit, helicopter or

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plane. But it is another tool

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akin to those things that can

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get information and collect

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evidence before an officer is

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able to travel across the city

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to that location and can

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provide valuable insight,

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including clearing things that

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words actually not nothing is

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happening or the person is

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already gone so it could

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potentially save are patrolled

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mission a lot of time. Those

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are the 4 expenses. That we

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have proposed. Or that we are

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happy in progress. I'm sorry

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for this year. The cost

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estimates. All proximate based

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on current projections.

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Obviously, we're. Only 4

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months into the fiscal year.

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So projecting out. The. Each

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of these expenses has. A set

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of metrics. That we are

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reviewing. Effectiveness. For

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instance. Expense number one.

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The data collection plan. It's

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primarily in reducing violent

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crime. You can see in the

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report. Submitted Spock. It

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includes the number of

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personnel assigned to the

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unit, but it also includes the

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crime data that these units

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are intended to impact. So you

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can see we have an 18%

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reduction in homicides,

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year-to-date. And 18%

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reduction in assault with a

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firearm. That's us all to the

351
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fire on a person. Shooting at

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an occupied home or dwelling

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down. 57 1% shooting at a an

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occupied home or vehicle down.

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47% robberies are down. 26%

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carjackings down. 28%. These

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are each of the. Metrics that

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were submitted in the opd

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priority spending plan that we

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would measure. And we're

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looking for ad. A 10%

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reduction overall in. So we're

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trending in the right

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direction for months. Into the

365
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strategy. At this point, pass

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for questions. Thank you,

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chief. And you guys are making

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amazing Streisand. We commend

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the people that have been

370
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there putting in the work,

371
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especially our frontline

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officers. For item number 2,

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maintaining dispatchers at the

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police communications center.

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Is there anything outside of

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the physical dispatchers, the

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staffing that you are looking

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to improve? We're bringing on.

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And if so, what are those

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things? Our dispatch center

381
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has undertaken a number of

382
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different procedures in order

383
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to speed up. Call times

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shorten wait times speed

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answering. And with that

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speeding up the amount of time

387
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it takes officer too. So they

388
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have an automated system that

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queues people through the

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dispatch phone tree so they

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can get to the right place

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faster. They spend less time

393
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lag are going to the wrong

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place and having to be

395
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redirected, which is just

396
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slows the entire system. Has

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been in place. 4 I think a

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good portion of this year

399
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already. And it's made a very

400
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big difference to the dispatch

401
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center. Also, our

402
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communications supervisors,

403
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reorganized scheduling trying

404
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to match audit peak call

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times. It's also having a

406
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pretty significant impact. I

407
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don't have the data from their

408
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last report, but I could

409
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provide it. I think they've

410
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they've reported a few times.

411
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They're getting much closer to

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state standard on 9-1-1,

413
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answering speed are not quite

414
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there yet, but we have made

415
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big strides towards those

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standards in the last year.

417
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That's awesome. Thank you. If

418
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you could also just kind of

419
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keep a surprise this to any

420
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other. Strategies are quick

421
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and when you refer to them,

422
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that would definitely be

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helpful. To desk. See that in

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terms of how we're going to

425
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track success. We have number

426
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of dispatchers, but I also

427
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would like to know if opd is

428
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considering using the answer

429
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speed as a metric of success.

430
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I know that's one of the

431
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overall goals of top spot.

432
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Safety plan and so wondering

433
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if that's something that you

434
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guys are considering because

435
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I'm sure it's going to be part

436
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of evaluation plan. I think

437
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absolutely. That can be added

438
00:32:01,166 --> 00:32:01,833
into the data collection plan

439
00:32:01,833 --> 00:32:04,833
and the metrics for success

440
00:32:06,604 --> 00:32:08,206
for this expense too. If you

441
00:32:08,206 --> 00:32:09,730
recall in Pieper already

442
00:32:09,730 --> 00:32:10,942
spending plan, we had funding

443
00:32:10,942 --> 00:32:13,111
additional dispatchers in the

444
00:32:13,111 --> 00:32:13,779
second phase. So this is a bit

445
00:32:13,779 --> 00:32:16,382
ahead of schedule and it's

446
00:32:16,382 --> 00:32:17,115
just really out of need in

447
00:32:17,115 --> 00:32:19,984
order to maximize the staff of

448
00:32:19,984 --> 00:32:20,686
the dispatch center. We were

449
00:32:20,686 --> 00:32:23,855
hoping that we would be able

450
00:32:23,855 --> 00:32:24,622
to maintain staff otherwise,

451
00:32:24,622 --> 00:32:26,891
but it has not been the case.

452
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And so in order to get to that

453
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,795
78 number, 7 position funding

454
00:32:29,795 --> 00:32:32,764
was necessary. And so this is

455
00:32:32,764 --> 00:32:34,866
in a bit ahead of our planned

456
00:32:34,866 --> 00:32:37,403
phasing, but I can definitely

457
00:32:37,403 --> 00:32:38,336
add the metric of 9-1-1,

458
00:32:38,336 --> 00:32:39,370
answering speed because I

459
00:32:39,370 --> 00:32:42,637
think that I agree that it's

460
00:32:44,642 --> 00:32:45,944
appropriate. And then one more

461
00:32:45,944 --> 00:32:47,944
during the community

462
00:32:47,979 --> 00:32:50,379
engagement sessions that we

463
00:32:51,583 --> 00:32:53,983
held several community members

464
00:32:56,221 --> 00:32:58,221
mentioned need for.

465
00:32:58,223 --> 00:32:58,923
Dispatchers that spoke other

466
00:32:58,923 --> 00:33:01,323
languages besides English to

467
00:33:04,296 --> 00:33:06,264
help with the speed of

468
00:33:06,264 --> 00:33:07,966
support. And and so is there a

469
00:33:07,966 --> 00:33:09,534
specific plan to ensure that

470
00:33:09,534 --> 00:33:11,934
the 7 positions funded through

471
00:33:14,205 --> 00:33:14,906
measure and will be positions

472
00:33:14,906 --> 00:33:16,441
folks at speak other

473
00:33:16,441 --> 00:33:18,441
languages, Spanish Cantonese

474
00:33:21,646 --> 00:33:24,646
era, they could cetera. When

475
00:33:25,884 --> 00:33:27,685
we fund positions in any

476
00:33:27,685 --> 00:33:29,685
classification. There isn't

477
00:33:31,256 --> 00:33:34,856
that? Well, there are. I think

478
00:33:36,928 --> 00:33:37,662
there isn't that tracking to

479
00:33:37,662 --> 00:33:38,296
the specific positions being

480
00:33:38,296 --> 00:33:39,164
funded, having skillsets

481
00:33:39,164 --> 00:33:41,800
within that it's just the

482
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,200
broader cent of 78 funded

483
00:33:44,569 --> 00:33:47,569
positions with a series of

484
00:33:47,739 --> 00:33:49,741
qualifications and I would one

485
00:33:49,741 --> 00:33:53,511
of the things that we do seek

486
00:33:53,511 --> 00:33:54,179
is dispatchers that can speak

487
00:33:54,179 --> 00:33:56,147
multiple language extremely

488
00:33:56,147 --> 00:33:59,147
valuable in speeding up the

489
00:33:59,651 --> 00:34:00,318
process. But we don't fund by

490
00:34:00,318 --> 00:34:01,453
whether or not dispatchers

491
00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:03,853
bilingual in the position

492
00:34:09,594 --> 00:34:11,290
tracking. But I think I could.

493
00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:12,197
Separately get obtain data on

494
00:34:12,197 --> 00:34:12,897
the number of dispatchers that

495
00:34:12,897 --> 00:34:15,897
are bilingual and report that

496
00:34:16,134 --> 00:34:17,936
back to you. Definitely,

497
00:34:17,936 --> 00:34:18,670
especially for those 7

498
00:34:18,670 --> 00:34:19,270
positions that are going to be

499
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:19,971
funded directly through

500
00:34:19,971 --> 00:34:20,672
measure. And and I think that

501
00:34:20,672 --> 00:34:21,773
would be a great day to point

502
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to share out. Thank you so

503
00:34:35,530 --> 00:34:38,530
much. Let's go to backgrounder

504
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recruiting. Can you next time

505
00:34:42,794 --> 00:34:43,461
coming with the? Number of

506
00:34:43,461 --> 00:34:45,861
offices that action to

507
00:34:47,465 --> 00:34:49,865
department. For the last 3

508
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months. Because I want to see

509
00:34:55,673 --> 00:34:56,574
how effective. Mayor

510
00:34:56,574 --> 00:34:58,974
effective. That's probably an

511
00:35:04,149 --> 00:35:04,883
actor. Correct word. Their

512
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replacements that's coming Are

513
00:35:06,117 --> 00:35:06,785
we getting enough people to a

514
00:35:06,785 --> 00:35:09,785
place the amount of people

515
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:16,250
were losing? Class one 97. How

516
00:35:17,796 --> 00:35:21,396
many people do to start with?

517
00:35:23,468 --> 00:35:24,636
I believe the 190 7th Academy

518
00:35:24,636 --> 00:35:25,203
started. It was in the high

519
00:35:25,203 --> 00:35:25,870
30's. I don't want to

520
00:35:25,870 --> 00:35:28,870
misquote, but I believe it

521
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:29,908
was. It was the night 30's. I

522
00:35:29,908 --> 00:35:32,908
don't the exact number. So

523
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,880
about half of made it. War.

524
00:35:41,219 --> 00:35:44,219
And the 198, the Camille. It

525
00:35:44,322 --> 00:35:46,991
started correct? Yes. And how

526
00:35:46,991 --> 00:35:49,160
many did it start with? I

527
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,560
believe it started with 46.

528
00:35:52,431 --> 00:35:55,000
And when did it start? It's

529
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,634
been just over a month and

530
00:35:55,634 --> 00:35:58,340
there are already lost 3

531
00:36:01,806 --> 00:36:02,507
people. Question is will not

532
00:36:02,507 --> 00:36:04,342
ask. I'm not asking about the

533
00:36:04,342 --> 00:36:05,677
academy. I'm asking about.

534
00:36:05,677 --> 00:36:08,646
Getting our numbers up in

535
00:36:08,646 --> 00:36:10,782
Oakland. And that's been one

536
00:36:10,782 --> 00:36:13,518
of my pet peeves is getting

537
00:36:13,518 --> 00:36:17,118
the numbers up. And it don't

538
00:36:17,522 --> 00:36:19,858
seem like. We're graduating in

539
00:36:19,858 --> 00:36:20,558
a far we have enough academies

540
00:36:20,558 --> 00:36:22,827
lined up to replace those

541
00:36:22,827 --> 00:36:25,827
people that we're losing. And

542
00:36:29,567 --> 00:36:31,970
so. Is there any other plants?

543
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:35,570
See, we got matter. Coming in.

544
00:36:35,673 --> 00:36:38,877
And then I heard recently at a

545
00:36:38,877 --> 00:36:39,611
meeting we have people come

546
00:36:39,611 --> 00:36:41,514
back from agencies come backto

547
00:36:41,514 --> 00:36:44,949
back to opd, which I found

548
00:36:44,949 --> 00:36:45,583
encouraging. So is there any

549
00:36:45,583 --> 00:36:48,583
other things that we have

550
00:36:49,654 --> 00:36:53,254
that? Get our numbers up in

551
00:36:53,925 --> 00:36:56,925
that area? I think important

552
00:36:57,896 --> 00:36:58,763
to note in. Expense number 3

553
00:36:58,763 --> 00:36:59,731
in the in the data collection

554
00:36:59,731 --> 00:37:02,000
plan and the metrics for

555
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000
success. Number 4. Is

556
00:37:04,602 --> 00:37:05,336
monitoring the attrition rate.

557
00:37:05,336 --> 00:37:08,336
Trying to reduce the attrition

558
00:37:10,775 --> 00:37:14,375
or a 10% reduction. And of no.

559
00:37:15,313 --> 00:37:18,830
Over the last. Since JULY.

560
00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:20,483
We've only had 4 officers.

561
00:37:23,221 --> 00:37:24,422
Which is. Significantly.

562
00:37:24,422 --> 00:37:26,822
That's a significantly lower

563
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,559
number. We have lost about 5

564
00:37:31,329 --> 00:37:34,329
and a half officers. Pretty

565
00:37:34,466 --> 00:37:36,534
steadily. Does you know, month

566
00:37:36,534 --> 00:37:38,436
to month that changes. But the

567
00:37:38,436 --> 00:37:39,304
average is usually about 5 and

568
00:37:39,304 --> 00:37:42,807
a half percent for for the

569
00:37:42,807 --> 00:37:43,541
last 2 decades. So to see only

570
00:37:43,541 --> 00:37:46,541
4 separate in just about 3 and

571
00:37:48,513 --> 00:37:49,180
a half. Is a significant

572
00:37:49,180 --> 00:37:51,580
improvement on our previous

573
00:37:52,851 --> 00:37:53,551
attrition rate. There's a lot

574
00:37:53,551 --> 00:37:54,285
of factors that go into that.

575
00:37:54,285 --> 00:37:58,485
And I would caution that it is

576
00:37:59,657 --> 00:38:01,126
early. Measuring this number,

577
00:38:01,126 --> 00:38:01,860
right, because we could have a

578
00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:04,529
larger number. That brings the

579
00:38:04,529 --> 00:38:05,196
that average up. Any given

580
00:38:05,196 --> 00:38:08,196
month. But right now we're

581
00:38:08,399 --> 00:38:09,100
definitely trending. So I

582
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,100
think that keeping the people

583
00:38:12,704 --> 00:38:13,638
that we have getting this

584
00:38:13,638 --> 00:38:15,306
lateral academy going getting

585
00:38:15,306 --> 00:38:17,175
10 more on that route. That's

586
00:38:17,175 --> 00:38:17,809
another source of officers

587
00:38:17,809 --> 00:38:20,209
that we weren't otherwise

588
00:38:21,646 --> 00:38:24,150
pursuing in previous years.

589
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:26,415
Getting the cadet program

590
00:38:26,618 --> 00:38:27,619
staffed getting started is

591
00:38:27,619 --> 00:38:29,619
tremendous success. Getting

592
00:38:30,488 --> 00:38:31,356
this the numbers of cadets up

593
00:38:31,356 --> 00:38:32,560
because that is more of a

594
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,158
long-term investment. That's

595
00:38:33,158 --> 00:38:33,858
good. That's will be going to

596
00:38:33,858 --> 00:38:36,261
academies and years down the

597
00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:38,863
road. So getting that staff to

598
00:38:38,863 --> 00:38:39,664
pull pay dividends downstream

599
00:38:39,664 --> 00:38:42,367
for us. So we need to keep the

600
00:38:42,367 --> 00:38:43,334
people that we have here. We

601
00:38:43,334 --> 00:38:46,934
need to get more people into

602
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:47,772
these kind nice qualified

603
00:38:47,772 --> 00:38:48,574
candidates into these

604
00:38:48,574 --> 00:38:49,175
academies who can who can

605
00:38:49,175 --> 00:38:51,175
successfully navigated

606
00:38:54,979 --> 00:38:56,581
graduate? What are some of

607
00:38:56,581 --> 00:38:58,981
challenges you're finding with

608
00:38:59,784 --> 00:39:00,585
the cadets in the academy's?

609
00:39:00,585 --> 00:39:03,585
That is preventing them from

610
00:39:04,956 --> 00:39:06,956
successfully completing. That

611
00:39:07,592 --> 00:39:09,992
police officer trainees pio

612
00:39:10,995 --> 00:39:12,864
tease in the academy's.

613
00:39:12,864 --> 00:39:15,300
There's a number of different

614
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:16,000
subjects that are challenging.

615
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Arresting control, defensive

616
00:39:23,775 --> 00:39:24,509
tactics. Firearms. Emergency

617
00:39:24,509 --> 00:39:26,440
driving. Those are things that

618
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,444
are traditionally have higher

619
00:39:30,415 --> 00:39:32,885
failure rates. I can say that.

620
00:39:32,885 --> 00:39:35,285
Emergency driving has. Been

621
00:39:36,488 --> 00:39:39,924
more of a challenge with with

622
00:39:39,924 --> 00:39:42,927
a number of people that fail.

623
00:39:42,927 --> 00:39:45,530
And I think it is. I've heard

624
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:47,930
reports from the Academy.

625
00:39:48,867 --> 00:39:49,567
About their reasoning. We're

626
00:39:49,567 --> 00:39:50,368
seeing a larger number of

627
00:39:50,368 --> 00:39:51,836
young people coming to the

628
00:39:51,836 --> 00:39:54,236
academy that don't drive.

629
00:39:54,773 --> 00:39:56,107
Don't drive on their own.

630
00:39:56,107 --> 00:39:59,107
Because of that. They don't

631
00:40:01,312 --> 00:40:01,980
have as much experiences

632
00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:02,714
previous generations coming

633
00:40:02,714 --> 00:40:05,714
through the police academy. So

634
00:40:06,718 --> 00:40:09,118
they're there. Developing a

635
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:10,540
skill that is significantly

636
00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:12,454
further behind and they're

637
00:40:13,758 --> 00:40:14,392
being asked to get that skill

638
00:40:14,392 --> 00:40:17,262
to a very high level in a

639
00:40:17,262 --> 00:40:18,496
short period of time. So we're

640
00:40:18,496 --> 00:40:20,765
trying to do things to

641
00:40:20,765 --> 00:40:21,499
accommodate that kind of a

642
00:40:21,499 --> 00:40:24,499
generational shift. So you can

643
00:40:25,537 --> 00:40:26,572
get more practice earlier.

644
00:40:26,572 --> 00:40:27,238
Something that we're going to

645
00:40:27,238 --> 00:40:28,474
try to focus on its a very

646
00:40:28,474 --> 00:40:32,674
difficult thing to do in a pre

647
00:40:32,911 --> 00:40:33,511
Academy. It just takes a lot

648
00:40:33,511 --> 00:40:35,911
of effort to coordinate

649
00:40:36,681 --> 00:40:37,348
emergency driving training.

650
00:40:37,348 --> 00:40:39,884
But it is something that we

651
00:40:39,884 --> 00:40:40,586
recognize is a challenge and

652
00:40:40,586 --> 00:40:41,252
something that we're going to

653
00:40:41,252 --> 00:40:43,488
have to put extra focus on,

654
00:40:43,488 --> 00:40:44,856
because I think that these

655
00:40:44,856 --> 00:40:48,456
there are many that could pass

656
00:40:49,127 --> 00:40:51,527
with additional training time.

657
00:40:52,163 --> 00:40:54,132
Just a wild thing thanking

658
00:40:54,132 --> 00:40:56,532
very broad and futuristic.

659
00:40:58,970 --> 00:41:03,740
What if you all the try first

660
00:41:03,740 --> 00:41:03,775
training for young people. Got

661
00:41:03,775 --> 00:41:07,375
them their hours so they can

662
00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:11,117
go to dmv. Kind of funneled

663
00:41:11,117 --> 00:41:12,717
into the cadet program from

664
00:41:12,717 --> 00:41:15,717
the cadet program. You see

665
00:41:16,488 --> 00:41:17,422
where I'm going with this. I

666
00:41:17,422 --> 00:41:20,422
think that there is definitely

667
00:41:20,592 --> 00:41:23,495
a skill set that we can

668
00:41:23,495 --> 00:41:25,663
bridge. I'm not sure of the

669
00:41:25,663 --> 00:41:27,499
viability of that particular

670
00:41:27,499 --> 00:41:29,330
pathway, but at this point, I

671
00:41:29,330 --> 00:41:30,100
want people to graduate the

672
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,903
academy who are well qualified

673
00:41:31,903 --> 00:41:32,604
and well trained. So I'm I'm

674
00:41:32,604 --> 00:41:36,204
willing to look at just about

675
00:41:39,978 --> 00:41:42,978
anything. I like to evacuate.

676
00:41:43,581 --> 00:41:44,115
Why they struggling so much.

677
00:41:44,115 --> 00:41:46,885
I'm sure it is very

678
00:41:46,885 --> 00:41:47,987
challenging. I'm going to go

679
00:41:47,987 --> 00:41:48,887
ahead and apologize in

680
00:41:48,887 --> 00:41:51,287
advance. Number of questions

681
00:41:55,727 --> 00:41:58,727
that I have okay. So.

682
00:41:59,297 --> 00:42:01,697
Regarding expense number one

683
00:42:01,933 --> 00:42:04,135
as opd increases staffing most

684
00:42:04,135 --> 00:42:06,370
officers. How will different

685
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:07,138
investigative units be

686
00:42:07,138 --> 00:42:07,772
prioritized or will there be a

687
00:42:07,772 --> 00:42:10,172
lag time for backfilling

688
00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:16,214
patrol positions? The patrol

689
00:42:16,214 --> 00:42:18,214
division, the criminal

690
00:42:19,451 --> 00:42:20,185
investigation. Division, I

691
00:42:20,185 --> 00:42:23,185
think are core functions of

692
00:42:24,556 --> 00:42:25,256
the police department. When

693
00:42:25,256 --> 00:42:26,591
you call 9-1-1. The provision

694
00:42:26,591 --> 00:42:29,894
is the one that shows up. We

695
00:42:29,894 --> 00:42:32,970
have to keep that staffed.

696
00:42:32,970 --> 00:42:33,865
That's critical in order to

697
00:42:33,865 --> 00:42:36,367
keep the one of the the goals

698
00:42:36,367 --> 00:42:39,367
of the strategies to reduce

699
00:42:39,971 --> 00:42:43,541
response time. And I think a

700
00:42:43,541 --> 00:42:44,576
short phone patrol it directly

701
00:42:44,576 --> 00:42:47,576
impacts that ability and it

702
00:42:48,313 --> 00:42:49,130
has a ripple effect through

703
00:42:49,130 --> 00:42:50,348
the entire police department

704
00:42:50,348 --> 00:42:52,500
because fewer patrol officers

705
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,500
means it's more difficult to

706
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,121
conduct good preliminary

707
00:42:56,121 --> 00:42:57,122
investigations. Poor

708
00:42:57,122 --> 00:42:57,722
preliminary investigation

709
00:42:57,722 --> 00:42:58,957
means that the criminal

710
00:42:58,957 --> 00:42:59,557
investigations division has

711
00:42:59,557 --> 00:43:00,191
more work to do with an

712
00:43:00,191 --> 00:43:00,859
already struggling staff,

713
00:43:00,859 --> 00:43:03,859
which means fewer cases get

714
00:43:07,132 --> 00:43:07,899
solved, which means. The

715
00:43:07,899 --> 00:43:08,666
cascade effect, I think is

716
00:43:08,666 --> 00:43:09,667
pretty self-explanatory there.

717
00:43:09,667 --> 00:43:10,368
So we need good preliminary

718
00:43:10,368 --> 00:43:12,768
investigations, means we need

719
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,840
a well-staffed Cole. Victims

720
00:43:19,978 --> 00:43:20,646
of a crime. Deserve to know

721
00:43:20,646 --> 00:43:22,614
that person is going to do

722
00:43:22,614 --> 00:43:25,614
follow-up on that crime. Try

723
00:43:26,918 --> 00:43:27,586
to bring a measure of justice.

724
00:43:27,586 --> 00:43:28,386
That means that we have to

725
00:43:28,386 --> 00:43:29,120
staff to criminal

726
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,520
investigations division. It is

727
00:43:32,457 --> 00:43:36,570
then. And see it currently. I

728
00:43:37,862 --> 00:43:39,964
don't know that it can. Get

729
00:43:39,964 --> 00:43:40,665
thinner. So it needs staffing

730
00:43:40,665 --> 00:43:41,366
that they're currently needs

731
00:43:41,366 --> 00:43:44,366
to be maintained at minimum.

732
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,604
And if not. If not improved.

733
00:43:50,475 --> 00:43:51,209
So within that we have cut.

734
00:43:51,209 --> 00:43:53,311
Other specialized unit so that

735
00:43:53,311 --> 00:43:53,912
we can prioritize the

736
00:43:53,912 --> 00:43:55,912
cease-fire section. The

737
00:43:57,816 --> 00:43:58,450
ceasefire strategy. And the

738
00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:59,818
crime reduction teams are

739
00:43:59,818 --> 00:44:00,985
trying to maintain at least 2.

740
00:44:00,985 --> 00:44:02,985
Crime reduction teams

741
00:44:06,724 --> 00:44:07,725
citywide. And we're trying to

742
00:44:07,725 --> 00:44:10,610
maintain the cease-fire squads

743
00:44:10,610 --> 00:44:10,829
in the real-time operations

744
00:44:10,829 --> 00:44:13,829
center, squats, you can see

745
00:44:14,499 --> 00:44:17,499
that it is challenge. There

746
00:44:17,535 --> 00:44:18,203
are shortfalls and the number

747
00:44:18,203 --> 00:44:20,672
of people that were able to

748
00:44:20,672 --> 00:44:21,739
get into those positions. The

749
00:44:21,739 --> 00:44:25,339
way that we're going to solve

750
00:44:25,877 --> 00:44:27,712
that is. We talked about the

751
00:44:27,712 --> 00:44:30,712
previous expense. We've got to

752
00:44:31,316 --> 00:44:32,160
get more people. Qualified

753
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,251
candidates in 2 and graduated

754
00:44:33,251 --> 00:44:33,852
from the academy. And we've

755
00:44:33,852 --> 00:44:36,252
got to reduce attrition

756
00:44:42,862 --> 00:44:45,262
numbers. Thank Maybe break

757
00:44:45,897 --> 00:44:46,631
down the sworn versus

758
00:44:46,631 --> 00:44:47,298
professional staff numbers to

759
00:44:47,298 --> 00:44:49,698
support cease-fire, crt and

760
00:44:51,936 --> 00:44:52,670
rto. Just so that we can and

761
00:44:52,670 --> 00:44:53,338
this can just not to be at the

762
00:44:53,338 --> 00:44:56,908
top of your head because I

763
00:44:56,908 --> 00:44:59,100
would know it either. We do

764
00:44:59,100 --> 00:44:59,611
need to confirm the compliance

765
00:44:59,611 --> 00:45:01,379
with the measure budget

766
00:45:01,379 --> 00:45:01,913
allocations a 50% and 10% for

767
00:45:01,913 --> 00:45:03,913
sworn and non-sworn

768
00:45:09,187 --> 00:45:09,888
respectively. The numbers in.

769
00:45:09,888 --> 00:45:12,888
Expense. One that's all sworn

770
00:45:20,899 --> 00:45:22,767
staff. So those numbers.

771
00:45:22,767 --> 00:45:25,103
Compliance with the measure

772
00:45:25,103 --> 00:45:25,871
getting that 5, 6, towards

773
00:45:25,871 --> 00:45:26,471
storm staff, 1, 6, towards

774
00:45:26,471 --> 00:45:28,471
professional staff and

775
00:45:30,776 --> 00:45:31,576
technology. So that is

776
00:45:31,576 --> 00:45:33,576
designed intentionally in

777
00:45:34,546 --> 00:45:36,548
order to meet those ratios. I

778
00:45:36,548 --> 00:45:39,250
think currently, as you can

779
00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:42,850
see, there is. A shortfall in

780
00:45:44,689 --> 00:45:47,890
the number of officers.

781
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,661
Expense number one which means

782
00:45:49,661 --> 00:45:51,620
that there are funds and that

783
00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:53,462
5, 6, portion sworn staff that

784
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:00,400
are projected to go. Unspent.

785
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,973
Or 4 months things can change.

786
00:46:01,973 --> 00:46:02,674
Stabbing can go up. Other

787
00:46:02,674 --> 00:46:05,674
expenses can arise that fall

788
00:46:06,244 --> 00:46:06,911
within the. Crp and the

789
00:46:06,911 --> 00:46:07,579
priority spending plan that

790
00:46:07,579 --> 00:46:10,579
are aligned with that. But

791
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,185
currently. That's reporting.

792
00:46:13,185 --> 00:46:13,885
There is a shortfall in the

793
00:46:13,885 --> 00:46:14,487
number of officers there. So

794
00:46:14,487 --> 00:46:16,487
projected to understand

795
00:46:21,226 --> 00:46:21,860
gotcha. I I will need to

796
00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:22,927
follow up about the exact

797
00:46:22,927 --> 00:46:23,561
numbers just because my like

798
00:46:23,561 --> 00:46:24,496
side of the envelope math

799
00:46:24,496 --> 00:46:28,960
isn't mapping. I want to make

800
00:46:28,366 --> 00:46:31,966
sure that. Does make that we

801
00:46:34,506 --> 00:46:35,106
can a report that out. I

802
00:46:35,106 --> 00:46:35,707
noticed that there is a

803
00:46:35,707 --> 00:46:36,374
discrepancy between the

804
00:46:36,374 --> 00:46:38,774
estimates in the narrative

805
00:46:40,278 --> 00:46:40,979
section in the budget table

806
00:46:40,979 --> 00:46:41,646
I'm not sure which one is the

807
00:46:41,646 --> 00:46:44,646
accurate number, but I can

808
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:49,540
follow up with that. After the

809
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:51,540
Specifically for expense.

810
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:55,860
Number one. For data

811
00:46:55,860 --> 00:46:57,829
collection. Are you able to

812
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:59,364
track the staffing levels and

813
00:46:59,364 --> 00:47:00,310
record that for the

814
00:47:00,310 --> 00:47:01,533
evaluators? They mentioned

815
00:47:01,533 --> 00:47:04,533
that for dispatch, but, you

816
00:47:05,370 --> 00:47:06,700
know, maybe over time. So that

817
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:06,704
way. We can see if there's a

818
00:47:06,704 --> 00:47:08,704
relationship between say

819
00:47:08,907 --> 00:47:09,541
recruitment efforts and

820
00:47:09,541 --> 00:47:10,208
improved staffing like

821
00:47:10,208 --> 00:47:12,208
month-to-month, what those

822
00:47:15,346 --> 00:47:18,830
vacancies are. I'm just gonna

823
00:47:18,830 --> 00:47:19,384
repeat back to make sure I

824
00:47:19,384 --> 00:47:22,384
understand that. Ask you would

825
00:47:23,188 --> 00:47:23,855
like a month to month. Staff

826
00:47:23,855 --> 00:47:26,255
tracking for expense number

827
00:47:28,827 --> 00:47:30,428
one. We don't need it reported

828
00:47:30,428 --> 00:47:31,162
out obviously every month, but

829
00:47:31,162 --> 00:47:31,763
just to know that that data is

830
00:47:31,763 --> 00:47:34,163
being collected for the

831
00:47:39,705 --> 00:47:40,338
evaluators. And we'll also get

832
00:47:40,338 --> 00:47:43,338
ur data requests stuff in

833
00:47:43,975 --> 00:47:44,809
writing so that we can be.

834
00:47:44,809 --> 00:47:49,900
Prepared for when we do get a

835
00:47:55,887 --> 00:47:56,588
evaluator hired. To part of

836
00:47:56,588 --> 00:47:58,923
the measure includes reducing

837
00:47:58,923 --> 00:48:01,323
sexual violence and improving.

838
00:48:01,926 --> 00:48:03,261
That and reducing human

839
00:48:03,261 --> 00:48:04,863
trafficking. What peace plan

840
00:48:04,863 --> 00:48:05,830
for improving the data

841
00:48:05,830 --> 00:48:07,830
collection around these

842
00:48:07,999 --> 00:48:09,400
particular crimes, which as

843
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,101
previously mentioned, the data

844
00:48:10,101 --> 00:48:10,802
collection is lacking. And I

845
00:48:10,802 --> 00:48:14,402
know that it's also very hard

846
00:48:14,773 --> 00:48:16,541
to collect. So what's the data

847
00:48:16,541 --> 00:48:17,242
collection plan and does opd

848
00:48:17,242 --> 00:48:19,642
need any technical assistance

849
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:32,320
in this area? Just one moment.

850
00:48:35,361 --> 00:48:38,961
So the the metric planned for.

851
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:42,980
Measuring. Reductions in

852
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:46,670
issues of human trafficking is

853
00:48:46,971 --> 00:48:47,605
in progress. We're collecting.

854
00:48:47,605 --> 00:48:48,306
Data within the criminal

855
00:48:48,306 --> 00:48:50,306
investigation division within

856
00:48:50,942 --> 00:48:53,778
the special Victims Unit. As

857
00:48:53,778 --> 00:48:55,480
to the number of crimes that

858
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,480
are connected. 2 human

859
00:49:05,156 --> 00:49:05,991
trafficking. Violent crimes.

860
00:49:05,991 --> 00:49:06,591
In previous report out to

861
00:49:06,591 --> 00:49:08,694
explain that. It's not

862
00:49:08,694 --> 00:49:09,194
something that we had done

863
00:49:09,194 --> 00:49:11,194
previously. So we

864
00:49:12,664 --> 00:49:15,640
preliminarily have. On that

865
00:49:15,166 --> 00:49:16,267
subject. We're still analyzing

866
00:49:16,267 --> 00:49:18,667
4. How to appropriately. Look

867
00:49:18,837 --> 00:49:22,437
at a metric because we expect

868
00:49:23,241 --> 00:49:24,750
significant. Underreporting on

869
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:26,475
issues of human trafficking.

870
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:30,215
So we have data that our crime

871
00:49:30,215 --> 00:49:30,915
reduction teams, our advice,

872
00:49:30,915 --> 00:49:32,717
human trafficking unit, they

873
00:49:32,717 --> 00:49:35,117
do operations. Almost every

874
00:49:36,721 --> 00:49:37,422
single week. And the record

875
00:49:37,422 --> 00:49:39,624
certain metrics, they record

876
00:49:39,624 --> 00:49:40,291
the number of contacts. They

877
00:49:40,291 --> 00:49:41,693
record the number of people

878
00:49:41,693 --> 00:49:44,693
that appear to be involved

879
00:49:46,631 --> 00:49:47,365
human trafficking. Reconciling

880
00:49:47,365 --> 00:49:48,133
that with crime data and

881
00:49:48,133 --> 00:49:49,902
community date is where we're

882
00:49:49,902 --> 00:49:51,269
at right now. We're not there

883
00:49:51,269 --> 00:49:51,936
yet, but it is something I'm

884
00:49:51,936 --> 00:49:55,536
hoping to have my the next

885
00:49:58,143 --> 00:50:01,143
biannual update. Ok? So for

886
00:50:01,814 --> 00:50:03,848
expense number there are 7

887
00:50:03,848 --> 00:50:05,850
dispatcher positions funded by

888
00:50:05,850 --> 00:50:06,885
measure which I think is

889
00:50:06,885 --> 00:50:07,952
great. And I know that they

890
00:50:07,952 --> 00:50:08,653
are understaffed when a visit,

891
00:50:08,653 --> 00:50:09,320
if they said that they needed

892
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,920
about 20 to make it to make

893
00:50:14,225 --> 00:50:15,160
them whole. What about

894
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,361
technological improvements to

895
00:50:16,361 --> 00:50:17,395
dispatch because they also

896
00:50:17,395 --> 00:50:18,897
discussed things like still

897
00:50:18,897 --> 00:50:19,631
doing all of their scheduling

898
00:50:19,631 --> 00:50:23,231
on paper and not having enough

899
00:50:27,772 --> 00:50:28,940
monitors. It is part of the

900
00:50:28,940 --> 00:50:31,109
opd priority spending plan.

901
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:34,212
It's just not reflected in the

902
00:50:34,212 --> 00:50:34,814
expenses so far year to date.

903
00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:36,548
It is something that I

904
00:50:36,548 --> 00:50:38,948
anticipate will be. And

905
00:50:41,854 --> 00:50:44,254
expense during. This. Call.

906
00:50:46,124 --> 00:50:46,825
This is the for your plan. For

907
00:50:46,825 --> 00:50:49,494
months and we don't. Yes, I'm

908
00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:50,228
sorry for for your plant. But

909
00:50:50,228 --> 00:50:53,828
4 months and we don't have any

910
00:50:53,932 --> 00:50:54,532
expenses to report on that.

911
00:50:54,532 --> 00:50:56,532
Technology side within

912
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:03,700
dispatch. And then previously,

913
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:04,609
you've indicated that it is

914
00:51:04,609 --> 00:51:06,945
key for transparency and

915
00:51:06,945 --> 00:51:08,613
accountability to turn on the

916
00:51:08,613 --> 00:51:09,180
gps trackers in opd vehicles

917
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:11,580
which would relate to

918
00:51:12,317 --> 00:51:12,917
strategy. Number 6. I've been

919
00:51:12,917 --> 00:51:14,786
told that this would be

920
00:51:14,786 --> 00:51:15,453
helpful for dispatch. So what

921
00:51:15,453 --> 00:51:18,453
are the prospects for this

922
00:51:20,291 --> 00:51:22,691
happening? Well, there isn't

923
00:51:25,264 --> 00:51:25,964
an expense related 2 this

924
00:51:25,964 --> 00:51:28,964
topic and technology that the

925
00:51:31,736 --> 00:51:34,839
city of Oakland already But it

926
00:51:34,839 --> 00:51:36,541
is not currently on in real

927
00:51:36,541 --> 00:51:37,142
time and it is not some of

928
00:51:37,142 --> 00:51:37,876
that is currently being

929
00:51:37,876 --> 00:51:40,876
tracks. We don't have anything

930
00:51:41,679 --> 00:51:44,820
to buy. It's a policy. But as

931
00:51:44,820 --> 00:51:44,749
it relates to the strategy

932
00:51:44,749 --> 00:51:47,152
within the cvr p are there

933
00:51:47,152 --> 00:51:50,152
plans for this no cost

934
00:51:52,223 --> 00:51:54,223
strategy? 2 to materialize.

935
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,296
The police department. Want to

936
00:51:58,296 --> 00:52:01,896
plan to have the gps turned

937
00:52:04,502 --> 00:52:05,203
on. And inappropriate system

938
00:52:05,203 --> 00:52:05,904
of retention given the

939
00:52:05,904 --> 00:52:08,304
circumstances. I think that

940
00:52:09,607 --> 00:52:11,607
there's opportunity.

941
00:52:12,844 --> 00:52:14,479
Tremendously speeding up

942
00:52:14,479 --> 00:52:15,380
dispatch if they can see

943
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:16,948
officers in real time. And I

944
00:52:16,948 --> 00:52:17,649
think there's tremendous

945
00:52:17,649 --> 00:52:20,850
safety benefits to being able

946
00:52:20,850 --> 00:52:20,819
to see officers in real time.

947
00:52:20,819 --> 00:52:23,188
So it's a policy issue that we

948
00:52:23,188 --> 00:52:23,888
need to get right. What are

949
00:52:23,888 --> 00:52:26,888
the barriers to enacting that

950
00:52:27,959 --> 00:52:30,959
policy? It is a citywide

951
00:52:32,964 --> 00:52:33,665
process and I'm not

952
00:52:33,665 --> 00:52:35,567
Negotiation for that myself.

953
00:52:35,567 --> 00:52:39,504
So I can say is it currently

954
00:52:39,504 --> 00:52:40,672
being negotiated? I believe

955
00:52:40,672 --> 00:52:42,440
that the process is under way,

956
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,640
but I do not know what stage

957
00:52:47,379 --> 00:52:48,113
it is at or if it has stalled.

958
00:52:48,113 --> 00:52:51,713
Okay. And then now and expense

959
00:52:52,617 --> 00:52:55,617
number 3. I think you answered

960
00:52:56,321 --> 00:52:56,888
this. But the breakdown

961
00:52:56,888 --> 00:52:58,189
recruiting costs and

962
00:52:58,189 --> 00:52:59,157
background costs. And to

963
00:52:59,157 --> 00:52:59,858
correct that, said it's all

964
00:52:59,858 --> 00:53:02,858
going to outreach. That's all

965
00:53:04,629 --> 00:53:06,632
recruiting. Those costs are

966
00:53:06,632 --> 00:53:08,266
and that 150,000 is not

967
00:53:08,266 --> 00:53:09,334
positions. So those are not

968
00:53:09,334 --> 00:53:12,334
paying for salaries that is

969
00:53:14,506 --> 00:53:17,506
paying for. All the costs

970
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:20,810
associated with. Outreach

971
00:53:22,113 --> 00:53:23,181
advertising, everything that

972
00:53:23,181 --> 00:53:23,882
that Backgrounder recruiting

973
00:53:23,882 --> 00:53:26,882
unit does greenback run unit

974
00:53:27,986 --> 00:53:28,686
does 2? Actively seek out

975
00:53:28,686 --> 00:53:31,860
qualified candidates, all of

976
00:53:36,895 --> 00:53:37,797
their expenses. So related to

977
00:53:37,797 --> 00:53:39,197
that. We have previously

978
00:53:39,197 --> 00:53:39,798
discussed the importance of

979
00:53:39,798 --> 00:53:41,798
both recruiting Oakland

980
00:53:42,267 --> 00:53:43,468
community members to opd as

981
00:53:43,468 --> 00:53:45,370
well as importance of

982
00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:46,438
developing a dispatch specific

983
00:53:46,438 --> 00:53:47,439
recruitment plan given that

984
00:53:47,439 --> 00:53:49,408
they have very different skill

985
00:53:49,408 --> 00:53:51,808
sets and personality types

986
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,345
will recruiting Well, the

987
00:53:54,345 --> 00:53:55,814
recruiting in background unit

988
00:53:55,814 --> 00:53:56,548
be pursuing those plans. And

989
00:53:56,548 --> 00:54:00,148
is there any support needed to

990
00:54:01,453 --> 00:54:03,853
accomplish that? The recording

991
00:54:04,550 --> 00:54:07,550
in background unit is both

992
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,960
doing intensive work and

993
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,627
Oakland and looking more

994
00:54:09,627 --> 00:54:11,564
broadly across the Bay area

995
00:54:11,564 --> 00:54:14,564
and the state. It's a

996
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:16,601
competitive market. They have

997
00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:17,803
to everything they can as far

998
00:54:17,803 --> 00:54:19,405
much as they can reach. We

999
00:54:19,405 --> 00:54:20,406
have multiple people loaned to

1000
00:54:20,406 --> 00:54:24,600
the unit to try to help

1001
00:54:25,777 --> 00:54:26,578
support. This mission. I think

1002
00:54:26,578 --> 00:54:28,246
its absolutely critical to the

1003
00:54:28,246 --> 00:54:31,246
future success of the police

1004
00:54:31,616 --> 00:54:32,450
department. We have we must

1005
00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:34,850
get 50 qualified candidates

1006
00:54:34,850 --> 00:54:36,121
into each of the academy's

1007
00:54:36,121 --> 00:54:39,324
that we're a lot it is major

1008
00:54:39,324 --> 00:54:39,991
priority for unit knows it.

1009
00:54:39,991 --> 00:54:42,991
We're trying to match that

1010
00:54:43,610 --> 00:54:43,728
with budget by giving more

1011
00:54:43,728 --> 00:54:45,897
dollars to that unit to be

1012
00:54:45,897 --> 00:54:50,970
able to do the events. We will

1013
00:54:50,668 --> 00:54:54,268
be reporting out. I think the

1014
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:56,639
rescheduled joint. Meeting

1015
00:54:57,575 --> 00:55:00,575
with Spock in public safety.

1016
00:55:02,148 --> 00:55:03,115
On specific strategies for

1017
00:55:03,115 --> 00:55:03,783
recruiting background. What

1018
00:55:03,783 --> 00:55:04,482
their what events they have

1019
00:55:04,482 --> 00:55:06,918
been attending and what their

1020
00:55:06,918 --> 00:55:07,585
broader strategy. Will be. And

1021
00:55:07,585 --> 00:55:11,185
I believe that is coming up

1022
00:55:12,590 --> 00:55:13,291
next month. But is there a

1023
00:55:13,291 --> 00:55:15,760
plan that or is there a plan

1024
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,897
to develop a plane for both

1025
00:55:18,897 --> 00:55:19,631
opened specific recruitment

1026
00:55:19,631 --> 00:55:23,231
and like what? What makes open

1027
00:55:23,401 --> 00:55:24,102
young people? Have more faith

1028
00:55:24,102 --> 00:55:24,936
in the police and willing to

1029
00:55:24,936 --> 00:55:25,637
become police because, you

1030
00:55:25,637 --> 00:55:26,204
know, we want police to do a

1031
00:55:26,204 --> 00:55:28,604
different has to look

1032
00:55:29,541 --> 00:55:31,541
different. And specifically

1033
00:55:32,677 --> 00:55:33,745
for dispatch just having done

1034
00:55:33,745 --> 00:55:34,913
a fair amount of research on

1035
00:55:34,913 --> 00:55:35,513
like workplace psychology

1036
00:55:35,513 --> 00:55:38,513
dynamics. I think it is

1037
00:55:39,185 --> 00:55:40,552
important that they have a

1038
00:55:40,552 --> 00:55:41,219
distinct recruitment strategy

1039
00:55:41,219 --> 00:55:43,556
probably different areas to

1040
00:55:43,556 --> 00:55:44,322
target and different

1041
00:55:44,322 --> 00:55:44,990
professions that would be best

1042
00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:47,390
suited for dispatch versus

1043
00:55:49,128 --> 00:55:51,528
patrol. Recruiting back on.

1044
00:55:54,966 --> 00:55:56,969
Does have. Plan. Local and

1045
00:55:56,969 --> 00:56:00,569
more broad. And I would say

1046
00:56:00,839 --> 00:56:02,408
that it is uniquely different

1047
00:56:02,408 --> 00:56:03,740
for sworn officers and it is

1048
00:56:03,740 --> 00:56:04,142
for dispatch. You heard me

1049
00:56:04,142 --> 00:56:07,142
report out earlier. We have.

1050
00:56:08,113 --> 00:56:10,782
80 people. In back grounds for

1051
00:56:10,782 --> 00:56:12,585
dispatch for 13 positions. So

1052
00:56:12,585 --> 00:56:16,185
we're able to find people that

1053
00:56:16,387 --> 00:56:18,190
want the job for dispatch.

1054
00:56:18,190 --> 00:56:18,890
It's a matter of moving

1055
00:56:18,890 --> 00:56:19,592
qualified candidates through

1056
00:56:19,592 --> 00:56:20,292
that process and then

1057
00:56:20,292 --> 00:56:23,292
retaining them once they come

1058
00:56:25,831 --> 00:56:27,733
in. For sworn police officers,

1059
00:56:27,733 --> 00:56:30,668
it's a just a very competitive

1060
00:56:30,668 --> 00:56:33,668
market in the Bay Area.

1061
00:56:34,372 --> 00:56:35,730
Multiple other large and small

1062
00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:36,742
police agencies are competing

1063
00:56:36,742 --> 00:56:39,712
for the same candidates. And

1064
00:56:39,712 --> 00:56:41,179
so we have to do our best to.

1065
00:56:41,179 --> 00:56:43,115
The that the place that all of

1066
00:56:43,115 --> 00:56:45,515
those potential officers want

1067
00:56:47,385 --> 00:56:48,620
to go. I think that there are

1068
00:56:48,620 --> 00:56:50,880
things that have previously

1069
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:51,523
not work in our favor that

1070
00:56:51,523 --> 00:56:53,392
have come to an end. I think

1071
00:56:53,392 --> 00:56:54,126
it is a difficult recruiting

1072
00:56:54,126 --> 00:56:54,859
environment when you're in a

1073
00:56:54,859 --> 00:56:56,928
police department that's under

1074
00:56:56,928 --> 00:56:57,595
a negotiated settlement

1075
00:56:57,595 --> 00:57:00,595
agreement. I think that is

1076
00:57:00,833 --> 00:57:01,466
more difficult to recruit in

1077
00:57:01,466 --> 00:57:02,234
that environment to gifts

1078
00:57:02,234 --> 00:57:02,968
question to people as to

1079
00:57:02,968 --> 00:57:03,603
whether or not they want to go

1080
00:57:03,603 --> 00:57:04,736
to an agency that's under

1081
00:57:04,736 --> 00:57:06,838
federal oversight that's come

1082
00:57:06,838 --> 00:57:10,341
to an end. And I think that

1083
00:57:10,341 --> 00:57:11,342
that will help. People being

1084
00:57:11,342 --> 00:57:14,342
confident that Oakland is the

1085
00:57:17,215 --> 00:57:19,285
right agency for them. Chief

1086
00:57:19,285 --> 00:57:19,951
to during our community

1087
00:57:19,951 --> 00:57:21,951
engagement. Sessions. We

1088
00:57:23,255 --> 00:57:25,123
learned from community members

1089
00:57:25,123 --> 00:57:26,558
that they were interested in

1090
00:57:26,558 --> 00:57:27,259
inviting opd to their

1091
00:57:27,259 --> 00:57:29,128
community events so that opd

1092
00:57:29,128 --> 00:57:31,528
could table and provide

1093
00:57:34,399 --> 00:57:35,166
outreach and recruitment we

1094
00:57:35,166 --> 00:57:36,670
have an invitation NOVEMBER

1095
00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:38,203
first in the fruit fell

1096
00:57:38,203 --> 00:57:40,603
through the Unity Council.

1097
00:57:42,173 --> 00:57:44,573
There will be over 150 1000

1098
00:57:45,210 --> 00:57:47,512
attendees. It would be a great

1099
00:57:47,512 --> 00:57:48,246
opportunity for opd to set up

1100
00:57:48,246 --> 00:57:51,249
a table in and provide some

1101
00:57:51,249 --> 00:57:53,649
outreach recruitment. So I

1102
00:57:55,854 --> 00:57:56,521
welcome that we can connect.

1103
00:57:56,521 --> 00:57:58,491
Separately to second. Sure,

1104
00:57:58,491 --> 00:58:01,192
all those details. But those

1105
00:58:01,192 --> 00:58:01,926
are examples you know, I think

1106
00:58:01,926 --> 00:58:03,962
great opportunities for opd to

1107
00:58:03,962 --> 00:58:05,997
not just recruit directly from

1108
00:58:05,997 --> 00:58:08,997
the community, but to build

1109
00:58:09,935 --> 00:58:11,704
within that community and when

1110
00:58:11,704 --> 00:58:12,303
we help the community

1111
00:58:12,303 --> 00:58:13,571
engagement session and

1112
00:58:13,571 --> 00:58:15,207
approval, a lot of community

1113
00:58:15,207 --> 00:58:15,974
members felt he wanted to see

1114
00:58:15,974 --> 00:58:18,109
you guys at our event. So

1115
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:18,677
there's that open invitation.

1116
00:58:18,677 --> 00:58:21,677
Not just in the field

1117
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,448
throughout Oakland. Thank Make

1118
00:58:22,448 --> 00:58:24,448
sure that recruiting

1119
00:58:26,484 --> 00:58:27,419
background. Received that

1120
00:58:27,419 --> 00:58:30,255
perfect invitation. Yes, I can

1121
00:58:30,255 --> 00:58:32,123
tell you that. I see there.

1122
00:58:32,123 --> 00:58:32,858
And they are going to events

1123
00:58:32,858 --> 00:58:35,858
every day. Great. That's great

1124
00:58:40,650 --> 00:58:41,299
to hear. Okay. Just couple

1125
00:58:41,299 --> 00:58:42,667
questions. You mentioned that

1126
00:58:42,667 --> 00:58:43,902
you guys are recruiting from

1127
00:58:43,902 --> 00:58:46,439
Oakland Schools for the cadet

1128
00:58:46,439 --> 00:58:49,439
program. Are you getting from

1129
00:58:49,574 --> 00:58:50,308
only the public schools or

1130
00:58:50,308 --> 00:58:53,308
just because if they're public

1131
00:58:58,416 --> 00:59:01,416
schools, they live in Oakland.

1132
00:59:01,787 --> 00:59:03,555
No, we're not just seek public

1133
00:59:03,555 --> 00:59:04,457
schools. We're looking for

1134
00:59:04,457 --> 00:59:05,256
candidates that meet the

1135
00:59:05,256 --> 00:59:08,940
criteria that are motivated to

1136
00:59:08,940 --> 00:59:10,395
become police cadet. So there

1137
00:59:10,395 --> 00:59:14,533
is a process to go through to

1138
00:59:14,533 --> 00:59:15,233
become a police cadet. But

1139
00:59:15,233 --> 00:59:18,233
we're looking more broadly we

1140
00:59:19,705 --> 00:59:21,372
want to get to 18 in this

1141
00:59:21,372 --> 00:59:22,108
first round. But you've seen

1142
00:59:22,108 --> 00:59:24,275
in the priority spending plan.

1143
00:59:24,275 --> 00:59:24,977
That number needs to go up

1144
00:59:24,977 --> 00:59:27,377
significantly over the course

1145
00:59:28,547 --> 00:59:30,615
of the next few years. I think

1146
00:59:30,615 --> 00:59:33,552
that at least 40 so that means

1147
00:59:33,552 --> 00:59:34,953
that we're going to need

1148
00:59:34,953 --> 00:59:36,953
broader outreach across

1149
00:59:39,324 --> 00:59:41,127
people. Young people. Coming

1150
00:59:41,127 --> 00:59:41,860
to the end of high school

1151
00:59:41,860 --> 00:59:44,860
beginning college so that they

1152
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:47,866
can. Work through this process

1153
00:59:47,866 --> 00:59:48,566
in the police cadet program

1154
00:59:48,566 --> 00:59:49,434
over the course of that time

1155
00:59:49,434 --> 00:59:52,434
until they reach 21 and a

1156
00:59:52,837 --> 00:59:53,471
half. And I'm sorry, 20 and a

1157
00:59:53,471 --> 00:59:56,471
half and can begin police

1158
01:00:00,879 --> 01:00:02,947
academy. Okay. So you mention

1159
01:00:02,947 --> 01:00:03,615
in the rationale section for

1160
01:00:03,615 --> 01:00:05,615
last paragraph, 4 expense.

1161
01:00:06,951 --> 01:00:08,951
Number 3. Wellness contributes

1162
01:00:10,955 --> 01:00:11,823
to attention. But there is not

1163
01:00:11,823 --> 01:00:14,759
an expense or plan detailed in

1164
01:00:14,759 --> 01:00:16,661
this section about wellness.

1165
01:00:16,661 --> 01:00:17,762
One item that was discussed

1166
01:00:17,762 --> 01:00:18,363
during the strategic planning

1167
01:00:18,363 --> 01:00:20,498
process was officer and

1168
01:00:20,498 --> 01:00:21,666
professional staff wellness

1169
01:00:21,666 --> 01:00:23,668
and during visits to the

1170
01:00:23,668 --> 01:00:24,702
Communications center staff.

1171
01:00:24,702 --> 01:00:25,437
Sure that burnout is time that

1172
01:00:25,437 --> 01:00:26,471
there's a staff culture issues

1173
01:00:26,471 --> 01:00:27,205
that could be addressed

1174
01:00:27,205 --> 01:00:29,605
investments in staff, wellness

1175
01:00:29,941 --> 01:00:32,341
and culture. Additionally in

1176
01:00:32,811 --> 01:00:33,846
my discussion with Barbara to

1177
01:00:33,846 --> 01:00:34,747
sell, though, indicated that

1178
01:00:34,747 --> 01:00:37,315
her one person department, she

1179
01:00:37,315 --> 01:00:39,417
is the department is

1180
01:00:39,417 --> 01:00:41,417
drastically under-funded and

1181
01:00:41,419 --> 01:00:42,120
under-resourced. Given that

1182
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,456
attrition rate sworn officers

1183
01:00:44,456 --> 01:00:45,323
and the difficulty in

1184
01:00:45,323 --> 01:00:47,158
recruiting. Well, this does

1185
01:00:47,158 --> 01:00:48,393
play significant role in

1186
01:00:48,393 --> 01:00:49,461
maintaining staffing. Could

1187
01:00:49,461 --> 01:00:53,610
you expand on any plans to

1188
01:00:57,268 --> 01:00:59,771
address wellness? I think that

1189
01:00:59,771 --> 01:01:02,171
the were in complete

1190
01:01:03,208 --> 01:01:05,208
agreement. Wellness being

1191
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:08,713
connected to. And that it is a

1192
01:01:08,713 --> 01:01:10,882
critical piece of maintaining

1193
01:01:10,882 --> 01:01:13,882
the staff that we. Currently

1194
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:15,888
have providing for them so

1195
01:01:15,888 --> 01:01:19,488
that they want to stay. I

1196
01:01:20,258 --> 01:01:20,959
think that in. At this 0.4

1197
01:01:20,959 --> 01:01:22,894
months into the strategy, we

1198
01:01:22,894 --> 01:01:24,863
have been able to fund

1199
01:01:24,863 --> 01:01:26,798
positions with General purpose

1200
01:01:26,798 --> 01:01:27,499
Fund and we had shortfall in

1201
01:01:27,499 --> 01:01:28,900
the dispatch center, which is

1202
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:32,370
the reason why you see it

1203
01:01:32,370 --> 01:01:34,839
reflected the way that that

1204
01:01:34,839 --> 01:01:37,275
believe that in the next

1205
01:01:37,275 --> 01:01:39,675
fiscal year. The General

1206
01:01:42,313 --> 01:01:42,981
Purpose Fund will. Take those

1207
01:01:42,981 --> 01:01:43,681
7 positions that are in the

1208
01:01:43,681 --> 01:01:45,717
dispatch center and we'll be

1209
01:01:45,717 --> 01:01:47,685
able to real allocate those

1210
01:01:47,685 --> 01:01:50,850
funds into wellness and

1211
01:01:50,855 --> 01:01:53,224
technology for the dispatcher.

1212
01:01:53,224 --> 01:01:56,824
Gotcha. Okay. And then my last

1213
01:01:56,929 --> 01:01:57,663
question. So if mentioned that

1214
01:01:57,663 --> 01:02:00,231
they're getting a year free on

1215
01:02:00,231 --> 01:02:01,834
their drones. Is it possible

1216
01:02:01,834 --> 01:02:04,836
that opd could get your free?

1217
01:02:04,836 --> 01:02:07,639
Is it the same vendor? I don't

1218
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:11,239
know if it's possible. I think

1219
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,476
that the current. Estimates

1220
01:02:19,417 --> 01:02:20,518
for costings about 432. Right

1221
01:02:20,518 --> 01:02:21,719
about where we were estimating

1222
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:22,420
that it would be in that

1223
01:02:22,420 --> 01:02:24,122
priority spending plan. Think

1224
01:02:24,122 --> 01:02:26,122
we estimated about 400

1225
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:29,160
thousands very close to that.

1226
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,760
I think it's going to come

1227
01:02:33,298 --> 01:02:36,298
down qualified. And the demand

1228
01:02:36,801 --> 01:02:37,502
is just a bit different for

1229
01:02:37,502 --> 01:02:41,102
the police department. So I I

1230
01:02:42,975 --> 01:02:44,777
don't know that. The vendor

1231
01:02:44,777 --> 01:02:46,177
that and well, I don't know

1232
01:02:46,177 --> 01:02:47,450
which vendor will be chosen at

1233
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:50,645
this point. We still to go

1234
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:55,500
through the process. So Aren't

1235
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:56,988
in contract. So I. Yes, it

1236
01:02:56,988 --> 01:02:58,790
would be inaccurate for me to

1237
01:02:58,790 --> 01:02:59,457
be able to tell you what that

1238
01:02:59,457 --> 01:03:01,857
final terms, that contract

1239
01:03:02,627 --> 01:03:04,362
will be. Can I just jump in

1240
01:03:04,362 --> 01:03:06,765
real quick related to a

1241
01:03:06,765 --> 01:03:07,465
question. How likely is it

1242
01:03:07,465 --> 01:03:09,865
that Privacy Commission will

1243
01:03:20,110 --> 01:03:21,280
approve? The drone? Apology? I

1244
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,682
will have to double check the

1245
01:03:24,682 --> 01:03:27,682
last privacy advisory. But I

1246
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,254
think that it's very likely.

1247
01:03:29,254 --> 01:03:32,854
That they're in support of the

1248
01:03:33,391 --> 01:03:34,250
drone. First responder. They

1249
01:03:34,250 --> 01:03:36,561
did. I think meet on the

1250
01:03:36,561 --> 01:03:37,562
subject in their previous.

1251
01:03:37,562 --> 01:03:38,296
Meeting and I don't want to

1252
01:03:38,296 --> 01:03:39,597
speak out of turn. But I think

1253
01:03:39,597 --> 01:03:41,997
that there is. Broader

1254
01:03:45,637 --> 01:03:46,538
support. For this program with

1255
01:03:46,538 --> 01:03:47,105
appropriate controls to make

1256
01:03:47,105 --> 01:03:49,505
sure that privacy is

1257
01:03:53,144 --> 01:03:54,245
protected. Thank you for

1258
01:03:54,245 --> 01:03:54,846
answering the marathon

1259
01:03:54,846 --> 01:03:55,480
questions. So any other

1260
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,880
questions move to public

1261
01:04:06,992 --> 01:04:10,592
comment. We can move to public

1262
01:04:16,201 --> 01:04:16,901
comment. Yes, chair. We will

1263
01:04:16,901 --> 01:04:19,637
start with public comment in

1264
01:04:19,637 --> 01:04:20,338
the room and I believe MR.

1265
01:04:20,338 --> 01:04:23,338
Bolt right has public comment

1266
01:04:24,809 --> 01:04:25,510
on this item. That you are the

1267
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:28,510
only person submit a speaker

1268
01:04:28,913 --> 01:04:32,500
car. And as all has a right

1269
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:32,985
hand raised in zoom and MR.

1270
01:04:32,985 --> 01:04:36,585
But right 2 minutes and I will

1271
01:04:44,496 --> 01:04:47,165
start the clock. Know that the

1272
01:04:47,165 --> 01:04:47,866
the police department is

1273
01:04:47,866 --> 01:04:48,533
understaffed and they support

1274
01:04:48,533 --> 01:04:51,533
what you're doing. I think

1275
01:04:52,570 --> 01:04:54,372
that's a a feeling that I

1276
01:04:54,372 --> 01:04:55,340
have. But I also see it in the

1277
01:04:55,340 --> 01:04:56,400
comments people are making. So

1278
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,708
y'all should feel good about

1279
01:04:56,708 --> 01:04:59,708
what you're doing and thank

1280
01:05:04,949 --> 01:05:06,317
you. One thing that would help

1281
01:05:06,317 --> 01:05:09,317
us appreciate the the reason

1282
01:05:09,721 --> 01:05:11,656
for these dramatic drops crime

1283
01:05:11,656 --> 01:05:12,891
would be to know when you've

1284
01:05:12,891 --> 01:05:13,458
mentioned some of these, but

1285
01:05:13,458 --> 01:05:16,458
to know what the most

1286
01:05:16,761 --> 01:05:17,495
important things that you've

1287
01:05:17,495 --> 01:05:19,895
done differently to accomplish

1288
01:05:21,332 --> 01:05:23,332
these miraculous. Reductions

1289
01:05:26,471 --> 01:05:27,172
in crime. A lot of the sayings

1290
01:05:27,172 --> 01:05:28,440
Murders and things like that.

1291
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,108
The statistics have to be

1292
01:05:30,108 --> 01:05:30,775
accurate. And if they're going

1293
01:05:30,775 --> 01:05:33,775
down, what have y'all done

1294
01:05:37,183 --> 01:05:40,183
accomplish that? And this is

1295
01:05:40,452 --> 01:05:41,653
all happened within the last 2

1296
01:05:41,653 --> 01:05:43,540
years. So it's as fresh enough

1297
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:43,755
to where we ought to have a

1298
01:05:43,755 --> 01:05:47,355
good idea as to what's what's

1299
01:05:51,763 --> 01:05:54,163
caused that direction. And

1300
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:56,734
what is being done. I didn't

1301
01:05:56,734 --> 01:05:57,502
advocate this before, but I

1302
01:05:57,502 --> 01:05:59,370
understand we're just not

1303
01:05:59,370 --> 01:06:01,606
going to catch up by hiring

1304
01:06:01,606 --> 01:06:03,208
new police. What can be done

1305
01:06:03,208 --> 01:06:04,750
to eliminate or reduce the

1306
01:06:04,750 --> 01:06:06,277
amount of administrative work.

1307
01:06:06,277 --> 01:06:09,214
A few officers in the field

1308
01:06:09,214 --> 01:06:10,482
are having put up with now,

1309
01:06:10,482 --> 01:06:14,820
pass it on to people that

1310
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,787
don't have to sworn officers

1311
01:06:15,787 --> 01:06:17,288
to take the load off police

1312
01:06:17,288 --> 01:06:18,356
officers that I think that's

1313
01:06:18,356 --> 01:06:19,391
really important. And he's the

1314
01:06:19,391 --> 01:06:20,580
only thing we can really

1315
01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:22,580
accomplish because there's

1316
01:06:22,127 --> 01:06:22,727
more people that can do that.

1317
01:06:22,727 --> 01:06:26,327
Now we can hire is his

1318
01:06:28,566 --> 01:06:29,234
placement right now. And

1319
01:06:29,234 --> 01:06:31,634
that's that's another Thank

1320
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:35,700
you. Thank you, MR. Vote

1321
01:06:41,450 --> 01:06:41,713
right. Okay. Cherry. Next.

1322
01:06:41,713 --> 01:06:44,713
Public speakers want to be

1323
01:06:49,954 --> 01:06:52,560
MISS Aside of my life. All

1324
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,656
about allow you to speak. You

1325
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:59,950
can unmute yourself. The Clark

1326
01:07:01,433 --> 01:07:04,680
law could be just give me one.

1327
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:05,404
Okay. Can begin your comments.

1328
01:07:05,404 --> 01:07:08,404
Ok? On the subject, church

1329
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:11,976
translation. City has a

1330
01:07:11,976 --> 01:07:13,976
ordinance around translation

1331
01:07:14,112 --> 01:07:14,846
services at the city provides.

1332
01:07:14,846 --> 01:07:17,846
I assume the police department

1333
01:07:17,949 --> 01:07:19,851
would be inclusive and within

1334
01:07:19,851 --> 01:07:22,251
that formula comment, Lee,

1335
01:07:24,222 --> 01:07:26,910
only 2 languages. All. On.

1336
01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:28,626
Come that and that Spanish and

1337
01:07:28,626 --> 01:07:30,626
Mandarin slash Chinese.

1338
01:07:32,997 --> 01:07:35,500
Related to usd, a cadet Ust

1339
01:07:35,500 --> 01:07:37,302
Carly. He's an ordinance. All

1340
01:07:37,302 --> 01:07:40,302
of the George Floyd ordinance,

1341
01:07:41,407 --> 01:07:43,708
which does not allow to work

1342
01:07:43,708 --> 01:07:45,900
with the Oakland Police

1343
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:48,900
Department. So I don't know

1344
01:07:48,814 --> 01:07:49,547
how they able to work a deal

1345
01:07:49,547 --> 01:07:50,181
and other little all the board

1346
01:07:50,181 --> 01:07:52,581
meetings. I haven't seen

1347
01:07:53,918 --> 01:07:55,120
anything that would come up

1348
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,787
usd agree to allow this could

1349
01:07:55,787 --> 01:07:59,387
get with pull a program to

1350
01:08:01,926 --> 01:08:05,960
happen. The the data that is

1351
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:05,764
quite data high allco formula.

1352
01:08:05,764 --> 01:08:07,599
And under that formula, you

1353
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:10,680
don't see all crime. Did you

1354
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,680
see some crime reported? But

1355
01:08:13,538 --> 01:08:15,640
not all. The percentage of

1356
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,640
violent offenders who do not

1357
01:08:18,877 --> 01:08:21,877
live in Oakland. Does not

1358
01:08:22,460 --> 01:08:25,646
allow us to deal with all

1359
01:08:25,884 --> 01:08:28,284
potential. Big perpetrate So

1360
01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:29,521
right now we have a notable

1361
01:08:29,521 --> 01:08:30,222
number of violent crime being

1362
01:08:30,222 --> 01:08:33,222
committed by people who don't

1363
01:08:35,493 --> 01:08:38,290
live in Oakland. 49% of gun

1364
01:08:38,290 --> 01:08:40,290
homocide again related

1365
01:08:40,666 --> 01:08:41,332
related. That means that the

1366
01:08:41,332 --> 01:08:43,301
ceasefire program does not

1367
01:08:43,301 --> 01:08:44,936
deal with the other

1368
01:08:44,936 --> 01:08:45,837
percentage, which is 51

1369
01:08:45,837 --> 01:08:48,837
percentage of on the size

1370
01:08:50,809 --> 01:08:51,476
created. The requirement to be

1371
01:08:51,476 --> 01:08:54,120
a police officer. You don't

1372
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,480
have to be a citizen, but you

1373
01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:56,915
do have to meet the

1374
01:08:56,915 --> 01:08:59,915
requirements of being valid. A

1375
01:09:01,419 --> 01:09:02,721
ballot her son in the city of

1376
01:09:02,721 --> 01:09:04,589
the country. I don't know how

1377
01:09:04,589 --> 01:09:05,457
that works because this is a

1378
01:09:05,457 --> 01:09:08,457
sanctuary city at some point

1379
01:09:09,427 --> 01:09:10,950
that needs to be discussed.

1380
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:13,950
Thank you for your comments

1381
01:09:13,398 --> 01:09:16,998
about La Mala chair. If can

1382
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,640
just add. To MISS All of my

1383
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:22,340
comment about the Equal Access

1384
01:09:22,340 --> 01:09:25,940
ordinance that we have in the

1385
01:09:27,645 --> 01:09:28,346
city. We have ordinance that

1386
01:09:28,346 --> 01:09:30,746
where we can translate

1387
01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:33,349
actually into 3 languages

1388
01:09:40,525 --> 01:09:41,159
Bieniemy Spanish Chinese.

1389
01:09:41,159 --> 01:09:41,826
Sorry. I think I actually

1390
01:09:41,826 --> 01:09:45,426
needed you by turning on my

1391
01:09:45,764 --> 01:09:48,700
mic to respond yes, we do have

1392
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:49,400
this 3 languages and correct

1393
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,370
me if I'm wrong and I do need

1394
01:09:52,370 --> 01:09:53,805
to follow up on this. But that

1395
01:09:53,805 --> 01:09:55,140
I think is separate from the

1396
01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:57,140
need for multi-lingual

1397
01:09:58,343 --> 01:09:58,977
dispatchers because and

1398
01:09:58,977 --> 01:10:01,377
especially have time call

1399
01:10:02,810 --> 01:10:02,747
somebody Come in and provide

1400
01:10:02,747 --> 01:10:04,747
translation services. They

1401
01:10:07,385 --> 01:10:08,870
just need it be in the room.

1402
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:11,687
If that is inaccurate. Let me

1403
01:10:11,823 --> 01:10:14,823
know. Thank you for your

1404
01:10:24,502 --> 01:10:27,205
public comment. I think we can

1405
01:10:27,205 --> 01:10:31,405
move on to Ft with our thanks

1406
01:10:41,419 --> 01:10:42,454
to opd nbc, 2 desco. Excuse me

1407
01:10:42,454 --> 01:10:43,189
chair. If we move on to the

1408
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:47,389
next item, do you want to take

1409
01:10:48,193 --> 01:10:51,193
action? On on the report

1410
01:10:52,430 --> 01:10:53,498
submitted by opd. Yes, thank

1411
01:10:53,498 --> 01:10:57,698
He had a race action on this

1412
01:11:02,507 --> 01:11:05,643
item yeah, go to. Vo to

1413
01:11:05,643 --> 01:11:08,430
acknowledge receipt of. Okay.

1414
01:11:09,314 --> 01:11:12,314
Too. Vote to acknowledge their

1415
01:11:14,886 --> 01:11:15,787
receipt of fair. Measure and

1416
01:11:15,787 --> 01:11:17,589
priority spending plan or the

1417
01:11:17,589 --> 01:11:18,323
biannual priority spending

1418
01:11:18,323 --> 01:11:21,323
plan update for fiscal year

1419
01:11:25,563 --> 01:11:27,565
26. 27. Okay. Thank you for

1420
01:11:27,565 --> 01:11:31,165
that motion. I will take the

1421
01:11:33,606 --> 01:11:33,972
role. Chair Thank Thanks.

1422
01:11:33,972 --> 01:11:34,144
Chair. G#

1423
01:11:34,144 --> 01:11:34,319
#

1424
01:11:34,319 --> 01:11:34,489
#

1425
01:11:34,489 --> 01:11:36,489
#

1426
01:11:40,111 --> 01:11:42,111
years.

1427
01:11:43,248 --> 01:11:45,648
Commissioner I care. Yes,

1428
01:11:47,919 --> 01:11:50,319
thank you. Commissioner went.

1429
01:11:51,991 --> 01:11:54,391
And Commissioner Dixon. Thank

1430
01:11:59,297 --> 01:12:02,500
you. Motion Thank we can on

1431
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:03,234
before we go in. When will pt

1432
01:12:03,234 --> 01:12:06,834
combat for the next report? We

1433
01:12:08,239 --> 01:12:11,239
know. They're required to do

1434
01:12:12,210 --> 01:12:13,312
by annual reports. But unless

1435
01:12:13,312 --> 01:12:14,879
tc Jessica checks, if we have

1436
01:12:14,879 --> 01:12:15,580
a specific concern that we

1437
01:12:15,580 --> 01:12:17,480
would like information on can

1438
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:20,480
invite him back Kenya, that's

1439
01:12:31,896 --> 01:12:33,980
that's good.

1440
01:12:33,980 --> 01:12:33,865
Yeah, you can.

1441
01:12:33,865 --> 01:12:34,466
You can go ahead. We collide.

1442
01:12:34,466 --> 01:12:36,466
Okay, everybody. How's

1443
01:12:36,468 --> 01:12:37,168
everybody doing today? Feel

1444
01:12:37,168 --> 01:12:41,368
like I was just here with you

1445
01:12:43,341 --> 01:12:44,420
guys. But I'm back. Thank to

1446
01:12:44,420 --> 01:12:46,811
Felicia for reached out to us

1447
01:12:46,811 --> 01:12:48,847
to get you guys a copy of our

1448
01:12:48,847 --> 01:12:49,681
rfp for the implementation of

1449
01:12:49,681 --> 01:12:52,450
valuation where we are in the

1450
01:12:52,450 --> 01:12:53,685
process right now is paused.

1451
01:12:53,685 --> 01:12:54,920
We have paused the process

1452
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,920
until we can incorporate your

1453
01:12:58,524 --> 01:12:59,357
feedback suggestions I'm not

1454
01:12:59,357 --> 01:13:02,957
going to give this group a

1455
01:13:04,195 --> 01:13:06,970
timeline Whenever you all have

1456
01:13:06,970 --> 01:13:06,798
a set list that you want

1457
01:13:06,798 --> 01:13:09,198
included, we will definitely

1458
01:13:09,701 --> 01:13:10,401
added to the document. If you

1459
01:13:10,401 --> 01:13:13,505
want to chop it up and add it

1460
01:13:13,505 --> 01:13:15,473
yourselves that works too. But

1461
01:13:15,473 --> 01:13:16,741
we will definitely want to

1462
01:13:16,741 --> 01:13:18,900
restart the process. It's in

1463
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:20,912
an analysis phase of the

1464
01:13:20,912 --> 01:13:22,480
finance office that puts out

1465
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,549
keys. We are not at the top of

1466
01:13:24,549 --> 01:13:25,350
the list. So this isn't

1467
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:26,351
disrupting timing necessarily,

1468
01:13:26,351 --> 01:13:29,587
but we want to make sure we're

1469
01:13:29,587 --> 01:13:32,390
still in the queue and not

1470
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:33,920
losing our spots. So we very

1471
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,492
good relationship with the

1472
01:13:35,860 --> 01:13:38,260
analyst overlooking the rfp.

1473
01:13:38,563 --> 01:13:41,133
So we are able and willing and

1474
01:13:41,133 --> 01:13:42,635
excited to not only hear your

1475
01:13:42,635 --> 01:13:43,302
recommendations, but ensure

1476
01:13:43,302 --> 01:13:45,702
that they are incorporated

1477
01:13:47,238 --> 01:13:48,573
into rfp document and once

1478
01:13:48,573 --> 01:13:49,641
that happens, I would gladly

1479
01:13:49,641 --> 01:13:50,975
come back and give a timeline

1480
01:13:50,975 --> 01:13:52,844
of when we can expected

1481
01:13:52,844 --> 01:13:53,545
publishing. But as you all

1482
01:13:53,545 --> 01:13:55,945
probably can appreciate. And

1483
01:13:57,449 --> 01:13:58,183
many of, you know, there's a

1484
01:13:58,183 --> 01:13:58,883
lot of our of peas kind trying

1485
01:13:58,883 --> 01:13:59,584
to get out before the end of

1486
01:13:59,584 --> 01:14:03,184
the year. So hopefully we are

1487
01:14:09,527 --> 01:14:11,496
one of them. Thank I

1488
01:14:11,496 --> 01:14:12,464
appreciate that. Sincerely.

1489
01:14:12,464 --> 01:14:13,364
It's it's very helpful,

1490
01:14:13,364 --> 01:14:15,800
especially since, you know, we

1491
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,000
all want to see Mac or 6, even

1492
01:14:20,710 --> 01:14:20,738
I think we'll bring. A unique

1493
01:14:20,738 --> 01:14:23,738
perspective to how this rfp

1494
01:14:24,743 --> 01:14:27,712
rfp can be most effective in

1495
01:14:27,712 --> 01:14:29,881
evaluating macros work and not

1496
01:14:29,881 --> 01:14:31,616
in a critical way. Justin, a

1497
01:14:31,616 --> 01:14:32,350
information is power kind of

1498
01:14:32,350 --> 01:14:35,950
wait and that's how we improve

1499
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,230
the program. We do. Like to

1500
01:14:39,230 --> 01:14:40,692
give summary or would you

1501
01:14:40,692 --> 01:14:42,961
prefer that we jump into

1502
01:14:42,961 --> 01:14:43,728
questions I would for we jump

1503
01:14:43,728 --> 01:14:46,699
into questions again. I would

1504
01:14:46,699 --> 01:14:47,499
not have all the answers here

1505
01:14:47,499 --> 01:14:48,366
today, but if these are to

1506
01:14:48,366 --> 01:14:50,100
absorb and then if we could

1507
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:50,702
have the recommendations from

1508
01:14:50,702 --> 01:14:53,702
the a committee submitted in

1509
01:14:55,707 --> 01:14:56,441
writing. I threw the chair

1510
01:14:56,441 --> 01:14:58,243
whenever you already. We will.

1511
01:14:58,243 --> 01:15:00,311
We will not move forward until

1512
01:15:00,311 --> 01:15:01,613
we receive your written

1513
01:15:01,613 --> 01:15:04,130
recommendations. Well, then we

1514
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:06,352
will definitely fast track How

1515
01:15:06,352 --> 01:15:07,485
would feel about getting in

1516
01:15:07,485 --> 01:15:09,485
your notes and

1517
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:13,124
recommendations? 2? Well, me

1518
01:15:13,124 --> 01:15:14,626
inflation, Kerry and we can go

1519
01:15:14,626 --> 01:15:18,226
over it and incorporate it as

1520
01:15:18,563 --> 01:15:20,932
needed by like. The end of the

1521
01:15:20,932 --> 01:15:22,233
week. Is that or maybe before

1522
01:15:22,233 --> 01:15:25,833
within one week like by end

1523
01:15:32,143 --> 01:15:32,811
of. Monday. I think if we

1524
01:15:32,811 --> 01:15:34,779
submit our note saying give

1525
01:15:34,779 --> 01:15:35,747
them a comprehensive some

1526
01:15:35,747 --> 01:15:37,148
feedback, that would

1527
01:15:37,148 --> 01:15:37,816
definitely be helpful for them

1528
01:15:37,816 --> 01:15:41,416
to come back from macro to

1529
01:15:43,221 --> 01:15:46,821
come back. So we can. Spend

1530
01:15:49,561 --> 01:15:51,961
this time wisely. Definitely.

1531
01:15:52,765 --> 01:15:53,766
Chair. Just on the timing of

1532
01:15:53,766 --> 01:15:54,499
that with their or their board

1533
01:15:54,499 --> 01:15:57,680
in and using scheduled between

1534
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,400
now and end of the year. Yes,

1535
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:01,339
we have meeting one meeting a

1536
01:16:01,339 --> 01:16:02,400
month. Okay. So I would I

1537
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,609
would prefer to get you this

1538
01:16:04,609 --> 01:16:05,310
information before our next

1539
01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:08,910
meeting. So as not to further

1540
01:16:13,485 --> 01:16:15,787
delay this process. That work

1541
01:16:15,787 --> 01:16:16,755
one week to send in notes and

1542
01:16:16,755 --> 01:16:17,455
work on it and incorporating

1543
01:16:17,455 --> 01:16:18,156
it and I can have place send

1544
01:16:18,156 --> 01:16:20,391
it back out for us to review

1545
01:16:20,391 --> 01:16:23,128
to make sure it's. Reflective

1546
01:16:23,128 --> 01:16:26,128
of what you concerned about

1547
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:29,400
where you want an rfp. And I

1548
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,301
would be more than happy to

1549
01:16:30,301 --> 01:16:31,703
come back during the NOVEMBER

1550
01:16:31,703 --> 01:16:32,670
meeting with hopefully this is

1551
01:16:32,670 --> 01:16:34,239
the date, you know, that

1552
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:36,639
things are happening. But

1553
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:39,244
again, we are. You know, we're

1554
01:16:39,244 --> 01:16:42,844
poor holding with until we get

1555
01:16:43,581 --> 01:16:44,816
your recommendations. Awesome.

1556
01:16:44,816 --> 01:16:45,984
Ok? I'll open it up to the

1557
01:16:45,984 --> 01:16:46,684
other commissioners first for

1558
01:16:46,684 --> 01:16:49,840
their questions and comments

1559
01:16:51,823 --> 01:16:54,692
on their feet. Think we need

1560
01:16:54,692 --> 01:16:56,270
to that. Just go on and submit

1561
01:16:56,270 --> 01:16:56,728
our quest, our concerns and

1562
01:16:56,728 --> 01:17:00,328
questions so that they can be

1563
01:17:00,832 --> 01:17:01,499
prepared. Because that. And

1564
01:17:01,499 --> 01:17:03,899
the questions and concerns

1565
01:17:05,503 --> 01:17:06,104
that we have. And as we are

1566
01:17:06,104 --> 01:17:08,104
all community members,

1567
01:17:08,139 --> 01:17:11,139
confident they would have. If

1568
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:14,112
they were to see the. Current

1569
01:17:14,112 --> 01:17:16,414
draft of the scope of work. So

1570
01:17:16,414 --> 01:17:17,682
there's some thoughts that we

1571
01:17:17,682 --> 01:17:20,682
want you all to consider

1572
01:17:27,325 --> 01:17:28,260
before reaches. And I will say

1573
01:17:28,260 --> 01:17:28,860
we're we're trusting this

1574
01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:30,261
group. We know there's

1575
01:17:30,261 --> 01:17:30,996
expertise and we want to take

1576
01:17:30,996 --> 01:17:33,431
that. We you know, we don't do

1577
01:17:33,431 --> 01:17:34,166
this work by ourselves so we

1578
01:17:34,166 --> 01:17:37,635
could come back to the drawing

1579
01:17:37,635 --> 01:17:40,238
board. A couple times to get

1580
01:17:40,238 --> 01:17:40,872
this right. If it means we're

1581
01:17:40,872 --> 01:17:41,606
waiting till JANUARY, you

1582
01:17:41,606 --> 01:17:45,110
know, that's not ideal. But it

1583
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:46,911
is. If that's what it takes,

1584
01:17:46,911 --> 01:17:49,470
we want to do this the right

1585
01:17:49,470 --> 01:17:51,616
way. We are 5 years coming up

1586
01:17:51,616 --> 01:17:52,317
in APRIL. So we want to do

1587
01:17:52,317 --> 01:17:52,984
things correctly. So we want

1588
01:17:52,984 --> 01:17:56,584
to get this right with with

1589
01:18:06,865 --> 01:18:09,000
this group. You know, I'd I'd

1590
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:09,634
actually rather just submit a

1591
01:18:09,634 --> 01:18:11,634
comprehensive document to

1592
01:18:12,805 --> 01:18:15,805
macro instead of. Pulling some

1593
01:18:17,475 --> 01:18:18,177
things out right now. I

1594
01:18:18,177 --> 01:18:21,177
because there are some things

1595
01:18:22,347 --> 01:18:23,615
that. We're going to meet

1596
01:18:23,615 --> 01:18:27,215
clarity on that. All 5 of us

1597
01:18:27,585 --> 01:18:31,185
need to. Release it with the

1598
01:18:32,957 --> 01:18:35,357
and then provide something.

1599
01:18:38,663 --> 01:18:41,663
But I will Swat. Swot

1600
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,000
analysis. Yeah, Just put that

1601
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:49,908
out in atmosphere. Well, Mike

1602
01:18:49,908 --> 01:18:53,508
Metro will have fun with you

1603
01:18:54,345 --> 01:18:58,545
on It will have fun with the

1604
01:19:05,256 --> 01:19:05,990
evaluation partners that I

1605
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:08,660
what they submit to, you know,

1606
01:19:08,660 --> 01:19:09,861
writing will help you along

1607
01:19:09,861 --> 01:19:12,831
the that way. When we come

1608
01:19:12,831 --> 01:19:13,498
back to you don't seem like

1609
01:19:13,498 --> 01:19:16,340
Can I just be transparent?

1610
01:19:16,340 --> 01:19:19,634
We're not beating you up. Are

1611
01:19:19,771 --> 01:19:20,972
trying talk down to you here

1612
01:19:20,972 --> 01:19:21,739
are concerned. So that's why

1613
01:19:21,739 --> 01:19:24,750
you see in this be very quiet

1614
01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:26,100
because we do have questions.

1615
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:27,445
But maybe you are. You have

1616
01:19:27,445 --> 01:19:29,800
the answers. So we'll put it

1617
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,149
in, right. And so when you do

1618
01:19:31,149 --> 01:19:32,117
come back, we can get right

1619
01:19:32,117 --> 01:19:34,252
into business. What we need

1620
01:19:34,252 --> 01:19:36,522
from you. What you expect from

1621
01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:40,122
because we want you to be

1622
01:19:42,527 --> 01:19:43,228
successful. If nothing else.

1623
01:19:43,228 --> 01:19:45,864
When my coaches says we want

1624
01:19:45,864 --> 01:19:49,134
to clean And that's what all

1625
01:19:49,134 --> 01:19:49,734
this is about. Us winning. So

1626
01:19:49,734 --> 01:19:51,336
we're going to win. So

1627
01:19:51,336 --> 01:19:52,303
minutes. Write this down. And

1628
01:19:52,303 --> 01:19:54,939
that's why we're not talking

1629
01:19:54,939 --> 01:19:57,375
to you directly today because

1630
01:19:57,375 --> 01:20:00,378
you know got big bows and

1631
01:20:00,378 --> 01:20:01,112
we'll speak are true to you.

1632
01:20:01,112 --> 01:20:01,846
So we want to make sure that

1633
01:20:01,846 --> 01:20:03,915
we get our understanding of

1634
01:20:03,915 --> 01:20:06,315
what you're really saying,

1635
01:20:06,618 --> 01:20:07,252
what you really want. And then

1636
01:20:07,252 --> 01:20:10,210
we'll come back and we'll

1637
01:20:10,210 --> 01:20:11,222
hopefully we'll have thing.

1638
01:20:11,222 --> 01:20:11,923
You just have to come back one

1639
01:20:11,923 --> 01:20:14,492
time and we can agree, agree

1640
01:20:14,492 --> 01:20:17,492
on something. That you like

1641
01:20:17,862 --> 01:20:19,864
and make it happen for you. We

1642
01:20:19,864 --> 01:20:22,735
really want to use this group

1643
01:20:22,735 --> 01:20:26,335
to help inform this it's it's

1644
01:20:26,704 --> 01:20:27,672
great to have a landing place

1645
01:20:27,672 --> 01:20:31,420
for macro. So with as this

1646
01:20:31,420 --> 01:20:31,776
process goes, yeah, we're with

1647
01:20:31,776 --> 01:20:35,376
you lock you know. Yeah, one

1648
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,148
time the great but if it takes

1649
01:20:37,148 --> 01:20:38,490
more, that's just what it

1650
01:20:38,490 --> 01:20:39,684
takes. And we want to get this

1651
01:20:39,684 --> 01:20:40,652
right. I can't underscore that

1652
01:20:40,652 --> 01:20:43,221
enough. And it has to be

1653
01:20:43,221 --> 01:20:45,621
independent. Can't be Elliott.

1654
01:20:47,250 --> 01:20:48,293
Put finger on the scale. We

1655
01:20:48,293 --> 01:20:49,394
want this to be all above

1656
01:20:49,394 --> 01:20:50,495
board. Cause the amazing work

1657
01:20:50,495 --> 01:20:51,196
that our responders are doing

1658
01:20:51,196 --> 01:20:54,432
day in and day out. Needs to

1659
01:20:54,432 --> 01:20:55,333
truly be recognized and I can

1660
01:20:55,333 --> 01:20:56,340
screen from the mountain top,

1661
01:20:56,340 --> 01:20:59,634
but it be nice. Somebody else

1662
01:21:00,205 --> 01:21:01,739
does it too. I like to do it

1663
01:21:01,739 --> 01:21:04,142
once I go for my right along

1664
01:21:04,142 --> 01:21:04,809
that I was put on blast last

1665
01:21:04,809 --> 01:21:07,946
meeting that I had not gone

1666
01:21:07,946 --> 01:21:10,346
on. Missed what commissioner,

1667
01:21:11,349 --> 01:21:11,950
what I've just asked my

1668
01:21:11,950 --> 01:21:12,550
amazing administrative

1669
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:13,251
assistant to prioritize

1670
01:21:13,251 --> 01:21:16,251
getting you scheduled as long

1671
01:21:16,254 --> 01:21:19,357
as well as MR. Vote right

1672
01:21:19,357 --> 01:21:20,580
before in the next couple past

1673
01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:21,726
Dixon, we love to get you on

1674
01:21:21,726 --> 01:21:22,460
there as well. And I believe

1675
01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:25,290
both of you you must just seem

1676
01:21:25,290 --> 01:21:25,203
to hit my b#

1677
01:21:25,203 --> 01:21:25,377
#

1678
01:21:25,377 --> 01:21:27,377
#

1679
01:21:27,599 --> 01:21:29,999
that like a or

1680
01:21:31,302 --> 01:21:34,405
I would really love. To spin

1681
01:21:34,405 --> 01:21:38,500
whole shift. With them. I want

1682
01:21:40,445 --> 01:21:41,847
to hold Schiff. I I would sir,

1683
01:21:41,847 --> 01:21:42,580
I would say we've never had

1684
01:21:42,580 --> 01:21:44,450
somebody except, you know,

1685
01:21:44,450 --> 01:21:45,583
early on, spend a day with the

1686
01:21:45,583 --> 01:21:47,819
team. There's a lot of value

1687
01:21:47,819 --> 01:21:49,687
in our for our Friday logs.

1688
01:21:49,687 --> 01:21:50,388
But, you know, if you have the

1689
01:21:50,388 --> 01:21:53,358
time and you want to get into

1690
01:21:53,358 --> 01:21:54,250
it with them, we're happy to

1691
01:21:54,250 --> 01:21:56,294
have you been hunkered down

1692
01:21:56,294 --> 01:21:57,862
with team for a day. The only

1693
01:21:57,862 --> 01:22:00,165
thing that would make that

1694
01:22:00,165 --> 01:22:03,165
difficult is staffing and our

1695
01:22:06,805 --> 01:22:07,872
fleet, cars go down I'm so.

1696
01:22:07,872 --> 01:22:11,472
Available. I will wait for you

1697
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,115
to call. Maybe do way for him

1698
01:22:17,115 --> 01:22:20,715
to call reach out about this

1699
01:22:21,219 --> 01:22:22,387
picture graphic going I will

1700
01:22:22,387 --> 01:22:25,824
say as much as I appreciate

1701
01:22:25,824 --> 01:22:29,424
not wanting to Put Elliott on

1702
01:22:29,494 --> 01:22:30,595
place, so to speak I do think

1703
01:22:30,595 --> 01:22:34,467
we have here in front of us if

1704
01:22:34,467 --> 01:22:36,367
we have questions, we can

1705
01:22:36,367 --> 01:22:38,503
assume positive intent around

1706
01:22:38,503 --> 01:22:39,204
that and and get some answers

1707
01:22:39,204 --> 01:22:42,804
which MAY clarify some of the

1708
01:22:47,879 --> 01:22:49,180
notes that we provide them.

1709
01:22:49,180 --> 01:22:52,283
Just a few questions in terms

1710
01:22:52,283 --> 01:22:54,683
of clarification. There's a

1711
01:22:58,623 --> 01:22:59,924
lot of action that macro wants

1712
01:22:59,924 --> 01:23:02,727
to take the evaluator, the

1713
01:23:02,727 --> 01:23:04,727
independent evaluator. It's

1714
01:23:06,970 --> 01:23:07,832
not very clear to me. This

1715
01:23:07,832 --> 01:23:11,432
time and maybe you can provide

1716
01:23:13,571 --> 01:23:14,273
it what type of internal

1717
01:23:14,273 --> 01:23:16,673
assessments have already been

1718
01:23:18,276 --> 01:23:21,276
conducted. What are some of

1719
01:23:22,147 --> 01:23:23,348
the results that have come up?

1720
01:23:23,348 --> 01:23:24,516
And I'm going to try to leave

1721
01:23:24,516 --> 01:23:28,116
it at those 2 look, has I'll

1722
01:23:30,789 --> 01:23:31,723
keep going. I would say that.

1723
01:23:31,723 --> 01:23:34,123
The internal assessments or

1724
01:23:35,126 --> 01:23:36,294
more of our annual output

1725
01:23:36,294 --> 01:23:36,995
statistics. Understanding the

1726
01:23:36,995 --> 01:23:40,432
change from year to year with

1727
01:23:40,432 --> 01:23:41,132
the growth of our staff,

1728
01:23:41,132 --> 01:23:43,132
increased collaboration with

1729
01:23:45,804 --> 01:23:46,871
the Dispatch partners and

1730
01:23:46,871 --> 01:23:49,871
eventually we want to get

1731
01:23:49,874 --> 01:23:50,508
better at tracking the Last

1732
01:23:50,508 --> 01:23:51,142
Mile resource connection.

1733
01:23:51,142 --> 01:23:52,510
That's been a weakness of

1734
01:23:52,510 --> 01:23:54,846
ours. Back to the swot

1735
01:23:54,846 --> 01:23:55,547
analysis. But it's something

1736
01:23:55,547 --> 01:23:56,247
that we're improving on. And

1737
01:23:56,247 --> 01:23:59,247
we've made strides this year.

1738
01:23:59,851 --> 01:24:00,586
But to really understand that

1739
01:24:00,586 --> 01:24:02,587
last mile connection, when you

1740
01:24:02,587 --> 01:24:03,455
go a step further. So trying

1741
01:24:03,455 --> 01:24:05,623
to figure out how do we do

1742
01:24:05,623 --> 01:24:06,958
that without adding another

1743
01:24:06,958 --> 01:24:10,558
data collection for him to our

1744
01:24:14,199 --> 01:24:14,933
team. We are able to macro

1745
01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:15,633
just joined a national in this

1746
01:24:15,633 --> 01:24:17,969
edition called The 12 Million

1747
01:24:17,969 --> 01:24:20,710
Cause Initiative to divert

1748
01:24:20,710 --> 01:24:21,390
12 million calls off of the

1749
01:24:21,390 --> 01:24:23,842
9-1-1 system as a part of

1750
01:24:23,842 --> 01:24:24,843
that, we've had to look at are

1751
01:24:24,843 --> 01:24:26,277
diversion rate. How many

1752
01:24:26,277 --> 01:24:28,780
causes opd sent over and how

1753
01:24:28,780 --> 01:24:31,749
many cause has the phone line

1754
01:24:31,749 --> 01:24:32,917
received? I can tell you right

1755
01:24:32,917 --> 01:24:34,180
now per the six-month stop

1756
01:24:34,180 --> 01:24:37,455
data that opd released about a

1757
01:24:37,455 --> 01:24:39,855
month ago. Couple weeks.

1758
01:24:40,158 --> 01:24:42,260
Macro, they have said 800

1759
01:24:42,260 --> 01:24:43,162
Costa macro and they responded

1760
01:24:43,162 --> 01:24:44,897
to 700 community care taking

1761
01:24:44,897 --> 01:24:45,630
calls. So we see in real time

1762
01:24:45,630 --> 01:24:48,233
there feeding us more than

1763
01:24:48,233 --> 01:24:51,833
they're going on. And that's a

1764
01:24:52,203 --> 01:24:52,871
huge milestone. Unfortunately,

1765
01:24:52,871 --> 01:24:53,538
they only publish that data

1766
01:24:53,538 --> 01:24:56,608
once or twice a year so we

1767
01:24:56,608 --> 01:24:57,275
can't see it more gradually.

1768
01:24:57,275 --> 01:24:59,430
Muffley would be cool. But,

1769
01:24:59,430 --> 01:25:01,880
you know, they got a lot going

1770
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,782
on. So it's it's nice to see

1771
01:25:03,782 --> 01:25:04,516
that we are absorbing the

1772
01:25:04,516 --> 01:25:05,216
right calls that were going on

1773
01:25:05,216 --> 01:25:08,186
the right cause and the cause

1774
01:25:08,186 --> 01:25:08,887
of their left. The community

1775
01:25:08,887 --> 01:25:09,554
caretaking cause they're left

1776
01:25:09,554 --> 01:25:13,154
to go on. The vast majority

1777
01:25:13,892 --> 01:25:14,592
over 80% r 51 50's. So it

1778
01:25:14,592 --> 01:25:15,827
really I when I look at that

1779
01:25:15,827 --> 01:25:18,827
is the bigger picture. There's

1780
01:25:21,332 --> 01:25:22,233
different. Data points that

1781
01:25:22,233 --> 01:25:23,401
indicate our effectiveness.

1782
01:25:23,401 --> 01:25:24,936
But it is still not a complete

1783
01:25:24,936 --> 01:25:27,936
story. And that last mile

1784
01:25:33,378 --> 01:25:34,450
connection as well as data

1785
01:25:34,450 --> 01:25:34,712
sharing and data alignment

1786
01:25:34,712 --> 01:25:35,413
between the fire and police

1787
01:25:35,413 --> 01:25:36,470
department, I think can help.

1788
01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:38,447
And it's something that's

1789
01:25:40,351 --> 01:25:41,319
ongoing and we are. Planning

1790
01:25:41,319 --> 01:25:43,880
the meeting between the Chiefs

1791
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:43,788
a very soon to try to make

1792
01:25:43,788 --> 01:25:45,590
sure we're still on the right

1793
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:47,292
path with that. And I got to

1794
01:25:47,292 --> 01:25:50,962
give a a lot of love to rpd

1795
01:25:50,962 --> 01:25:51,696
and our fire dispatchers who

1796
01:25:51,696 --> 01:25:53,498
have their gracious with their

1797
01:25:53,498 --> 01:25:55,867
time to talk things through

1798
01:25:55,867 --> 01:25:56,768
and every year we've seen

1799
01:25:56,768 --> 01:25:59,768
improvement every year. We see

1800
01:26:03,410 --> 01:26:03,741
more calls. Through OCTOBER.

1801
01:26:03,741 --> 01:26:04,442
Opd is already sent, has more

1802
01:26:04,442 --> 01:26:07,178
calls this year than they did

1803
01:26:07,178 --> 01:26:09,447
for all of last year. And that

1804
01:26:09,447 --> 01:26:10,316
is remarkable. And that's a

1805
01:26:10,316 --> 01:26:10,982
lot about our teams

1806
01:26:10,982 --> 01:26:12,684
capability. Our team being

1807
01:26:12,684 --> 01:26:15,120
better and more efficient. But

1808
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,355
it's also about the system

1809
01:26:17,355 --> 01:26:18,389
working and yeah, a lot of

1810
01:26:18,389 --> 01:26:19,491
left to their dispatch. An in

1811
01:26:19,491 --> 01:26:20,191
our dispatch for collaborating

1812
01:26:20,191 --> 01:26:22,427
and making sure we're getting

1813
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:24,827
the appropriate calls. Thank

1814
01:26:28,660 --> 01:26:31,369
you so much something I did

1815
01:26:31,369 --> 01:26:32,700
say Swat. I would love to see.

1816
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:35,700
It says something along the

1817
01:26:35,730 --> 01:26:38,673
lines of a swot analysis. And

1818
01:26:40,311 --> 01:26:42,711
what are. Your measurable

1819
01:26:43,548 --> 01:26:44,983
outcomes like what is success?

1820
01:26:44,983 --> 01:26:45,984
I'm about to just throw it out

1821
01:26:45,984 --> 01:26:47,118
at you. What is success? What

1822
01:26:47,118 --> 01:26:49,518
are the measurable outcomes

1823
01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:53,826
and what type of

1824
01:26:53,826 --> 01:26:55,826
accountability and operational

1825
01:26:56,528 --> 01:26:58,528
effectiveness. And the

1826
01:26:58,797 --> 01:27:00,797
measurable safety outcomes.

1827
01:27:02,801 --> 01:27:04,502
Are you all going to draw?

1828
01:27:04,502 --> 01:27:07,502
Your purpose and presence back

1829
01:27:10,175 --> 01:27:13,244
to it in. How do you? That was

1830
01:27:13,244 --> 01:27:14,879
a it's a lot about as to the

1831
01:27:14,879 --> 01:27:16,514
answer that as best I can. Do

1832
01:27:16,514 --> 01:27:17,148
one at a to with stands out

1833
01:27:17,148 --> 01:27:20,748
for you. Well, I will say

1834
01:27:26,324 --> 01:27:27,325
that. When we look at our the

1835
01:27:27,325 --> 01:27:29,940
original goals of macro are

1836
01:27:29,940 --> 01:27:29,761
very vague. And I believe that

1837
01:27:29,761 --> 01:27:32,197
was just kind of by design.

1838
01:27:32,197 --> 01:27:32,997
They were not clear and what

1839
01:27:32,997 --> 01:27:35,997
we were developing. So the 3

1840
01:27:36,802 --> 01:27:37,937
original goals were decrease.

1841
01:27:37,937 --> 01:27:38,636
Number of negative

1842
01:27:38,636 --> 01:27:41,360
interactions between opd and

1843
01:27:41,473 --> 01:27:44,473
someone in need. Diver calls

1844
01:27:45,176 --> 01:27:46,845
away from the 9-1-1 system and

1845
01:27:46,845 --> 01:27:47,712
then create a separate system

1846
01:27:47,712 --> 01:27:49,280
that individuals could call.

1847
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,217
So we have those hold on. Hold

1848
01:27:52,217 --> 01:27:52,917
on. I even see that in this.

1849
01:27:52,917 --> 01:27:53,818
That's in our that's our the

1850
01:27:53,818 --> 01:27:56,218
original, the original charter

1851
01:27:56,821 --> 01:27:57,922
goals of Metro. Still your

1852
01:27:57,922 --> 01:27:58,590
goals. They they have actually

1853
01:27:58,590 --> 01:28:00,990
evolved from there because

1854
01:28:01,793 --> 01:28:02,460
they're so vague. So right

1855
01:28:02,460 --> 01:28:03,962
now, we really just kind of

1856
01:28:03,962 --> 01:28:04,662
based on our output model,

1857
01:28:04,662 --> 01:28:06,664
many calls, are we responding

1858
01:28:06,664 --> 01:28:07,332
to one of those cap, the costs

1859
01:28:07,332 --> 01:28:10,301
and how many are we getting

1860
01:28:10,301 --> 01:28:11,569
from the police and dispatch

1861
01:28:11,569 --> 01:28:12,270
center? So it is condensed a

1862
01:28:12,270 --> 01:28:16,241
little bit. It is not is kind

1863
01:28:16,241 --> 01:28:17,208
of fluffy as it used to be

1864
01:28:17,208 --> 01:28:19,770
I've a lot of arguments our

1865
01:28:19,770 --> 01:28:21,346
first year that we were doing

1866
01:28:21,346 --> 01:28:22,247
that. But there was just

1867
01:28:22,247 --> 01:28:23,148
nothing really attached to it.

1868
01:28:23,148 --> 01:28:23,848
And I think that's a challenge

1869
01:28:23,848 --> 01:28:26,248
throughout our first response

1870
01:28:26,518 --> 01:28:27,218
system. How do you measure

1871
01:28:27,218 --> 01:28:27,952
effectiveness? Thankfully in

1872
01:28:27,952 --> 01:28:30,388
the fire department, there are

1873
01:28:30,388 --> 01:28:31,423
a lot of systems in place to

1874
01:28:31,423 --> 01:28:32,857
ensure that the firefighters

1875
01:28:32,857 --> 01:28:33,525
going to calls and being there

1876
01:28:33,525 --> 01:28:36,525
being PRESIDENT. We do have

1877
01:28:37,328 --> 01:28:37,862
some of those same. Challenges

1878
01:28:37,862 --> 01:28:39,497
because we do have

1879
01:28:39,497 --> 01:28:40,765
requirements. You have to be

1880
01:28:40,765 --> 01:28:42,333
out the door in 2 minutes. But

1881
01:28:42,333 --> 01:28:43,601
what we do try to look at is

1882
01:28:43,601 --> 01:28:44,602
the output of the team. The

1883
01:28:44,602 --> 01:28:45,136
number of teams were putting

1884
01:28:45,136 --> 01:28:45,703
out there and most

1885
01:28:45,703 --> 01:28:47,703
importantly, how many

1886
01:28:48,106 --> 01:28:48,773
dispatchers are responding to

1887
01:28:48,773 --> 01:28:51,173
historically macro when we

1888
01:28:52,177 --> 01:28:53,945
started a lot of on views. So

1889
01:28:53,945 --> 01:28:54,579
the last 4 years we have been

1890
01:28:54,579 --> 01:28:56,648
shifting more to dispatch

1891
01:28:56,648 --> 01:28:59,150
responses and so far for this

1892
01:28:59,150 --> 01:28:59,851
year. 85% of our calls are

1893
01:28:59,851 --> 01:29:02,851
dispatched. So that's a huge

1894
01:29:03,588 --> 01:29:04,689
win for us. I love that. He

1895
01:29:04,689 --> 01:29:05,424
joined because a huge win for

1896
01:29:05,424 --> 01:29:08,993
you is a huge win for Oakland.

1897
01:29:08,993 --> 01:29:10,895
Absolutely. I want to see what

1898
01:29:10,895 --> 01:29:13,980
you're measuring it against.

1899
01:29:13,980 --> 01:29:16,980
What are your goals? That's

1900
01:29:17,100 --> 01:29:18,690
why as are those years still

1901
01:29:18,690 --> 01:29:20,400
your goals? It one of the

1902
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:20,905
biggest challenges we have is

1903
01:29:20,905 --> 01:29:23,700
we measure our output. It's

1904
01:29:23,700 --> 01:29:24,909
always just one side of the

1905
01:29:24,909 --> 01:29:25,610
coin. We do not have complete

1906
01:29:25,610 --> 01:29:29,210
data in real-time. We have to

1907
01:29:29,481 --> 01:29:31,416
wait until we get opd stop

1908
01:29:31,416 --> 01:29:32,484
data and then the fire

1909
01:29:32,484 --> 01:29:33,184
department as a whole run. So

1910
01:29:33,184 --> 01:29:36,187
many calls it. It's tough to

1911
01:29:36,187 --> 01:29:38,556
stand out against that last

1912
01:29:38,556 --> 01:29:39,157
year the department did 77,000

1913
01:29:39,157 --> 01:29:41,157
total responses. Macro

1914
01:29:41,693 --> 01:29:42,427
accounted for 7,000. So about

1915
01:29:42,427 --> 01:29:43,795
10% of the fire department and

1916
01:29:43,795 --> 01:29:46,265
I could even argue in a

1917
01:29:46,265 --> 01:29:49,634
perfect world. We could get up

1918
01:29:49,634 --> 01:29:52,303
to 15 or so percent. Probably

1919
01:29:52,303 --> 01:29:53,172
just what I see with our

1920
01:29:53,172 --> 01:29:55,572
current staffing. That's still

1921
01:29:56,475 --> 01:29:58,243
a lot of runs and and I'm

1922
01:29:58,243 --> 01:29:58,944
going to just make was

1923
01:29:58,944 --> 01:30:01,450
plugged. You guys. The stress

1924
01:30:01,450 --> 01:30:02,480
is felt on the fire dispatch

1925
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:03,214
center. They are the ones that

1926
01:30:03,214 --> 01:30:06,718
are are holding on the brunt

1927
01:30:06,718 --> 01:30:09,487
of our work. So it's felt by

1928
01:30:09,487 --> 01:30:11,656
them. We are projected to hit

1929
01:30:11,656 --> 01:30:13,656
9,000 plus total incidents

1930
01:30:14,559 --> 01:30:15,894
this year with over 7,000

1931
01:30:15,894 --> 01:30:18,294
being dispatched. Both highs

1932
01:30:19,597 --> 01:30:20,665
for us and I can easily see a

1933
01:30:20,665 --> 01:30:22,734
universe in 2027 where we're

1934
01:30:22,734 --> 01:30:23,835
talking about 10,000 calls.

1935
01:30:23,835 --> 01:30:25,835
10,000 instance the year

1936
01:30:27,710 --> 01:30:30,710
excuse me, but again, not

1937
01:30:30,942 --> 01:30:32,144
looking at comparable programs

1938
01:30:32,144 --> 01:30:33,945
because there aren't many that

1939
01:30:33,945 --> 01:30:34,579
have been around this long and

1940
01:30:34,579 --> 01:30:36,979
San Francisco. It's it's

1941
01:30:38,983 --> 01:30:40,185
different. It's larger. We are

1942
01:30:40,185 --> 01:30:42,887
in national groups. We joined

1943
01:30:42,887 --> 01:30:44,823
the Harvard Community of

1944
01:30:44,823 --> 01:30:46,524
practice this and why Policing

1945
01:30:46,524 --> 01:30:47,125
project Group and others to

1946
01:30:47,125 --> 01:30:50,725
try to find cops on the

1947
01:30:52,897 --> 01:30:54,899
national scene that make us.

1948
01:30:54,899 --> 01:30:56,000
Validate what we're saying.

1949
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:56,668
Atlanta has been a good cop

1950
01:30:56,668 --> 01:30:57,335
historically about the, you

1951
01:30:57,335 --> 01:30:58,360
know, the size that we are,

1952
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,710
but they're not in a fire

1953
01:31:00,710 --> 01:31:02,600
department. So if outside the

1954
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:02,941
system, so we're really trying

1955
01:31:02,941 --> 01:31:03,608
to find like-minded partners.

1956
01:31:03,608 --> 01:31:06,277
We can work with share data

1957
01:31:06,277 --> 01:31:06,945
and learn from. I will say a

1958
01:31:06,945 --> 01:31:09,945
lot of the solutions we're

1959
01:31:10,582 --> 01:31:11,216
seeing in the space are less

1960
01:31:11,216 --> 01:31:13,418
focused right now on the

1961
01:31:13,418 --> 01:31:14,252
alternative response teams.

1962
01:31:14,252 --> 01:31:16,154
We're seeing a lot of dispatch

1963
01:31:16,154 --> 01:31:18,554
focus solutions, which is

1964
01:31:26,664 --> 01:31:29,100
hopefully can can look into. I

1965
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:32,100
need to know what success

1966
01:31:32,504 --> 01:31:36,704
looks like to you. I hear you

1967
01:31:37,108 --> 01:31:40,612
numbers. I see the report. I.

1968
01:31:40,612 --> 01:31:44,212
The words are really pretty. I

1969
01:31:45,216 --> 01:31:48,216
just don't know. Why. You're

1970
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:51,823
here. How come and the

1971
01:31:51,823 --> 01:31:54,223
significance? Not that. I

1972
01:31:54,325 --> 01:31:57,429
don't know what you do. I know

1973
01:31:57,429 --> 01:31:58,631
that. But when I look at the

1974
01:31:58,631 --> 01:32:00,299
report, it's comparing these

1975
01:32:00,299 --> 01:32:03,299
and I'm hearing the numbers.

1976
01:32:03,903 --> 01:32:07,503
What is success? What is like?

1977
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:09,407
This is this is Kling means us

1978
01:32:09,407 --> 01:32:10,108
in this is what gearing

1979
01:32:10,108 --> 01:32:13,708
towards. And we want to make

1980
01:32:16,314 --> 01:32:17,916
better. I'm not clear there's

1981
01:32:17,916 --> 01:32:21,820
a term that you all have in

1982
01:32:21,820 --> 01:32:23,820
this proposal. Ethnographic

1983
01:32:24,189 --> 01:32:27,189
research. I know what it

1984
01:32:30,195 --> 01:32:30,962
means. I'm curious as to if

1985
01:32:30,962 --> 01:32:33,962
there's a parameter behind how

1986
01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:39,100
you want. You're rfp to look

1987
01:32:39,904 --> 01:32:41,806
in terms of. Who does this

1988
01:32:41,806 --> 01:32:42,775
because there can be somebody

1989
01:32:42,775 --> 01:32:45,175
from midtown. Middle of

1990
01:32:46,278 --> 01:32:47,110
country says we can do it and

1991
01:32:47,110 --> 01:32:49,314
they have no idea about the

1992
01:32:49,314 --> 01:32:50,949
uniqueness of our special

1993
01:32:50,949 --> 01:32:52,685
city. And I would love to see

1994
01:32:52,685 --> 01:32:55,353
some details in times of the

1995
01:32:55,353 --> 01:32:56,870
standards that you all have

1996
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:59,491
for who you want to come in to

1997
01:32:59,491 --> 01:33:00,792
do this evaluation as well. I

1998
01:33:00,792 --> 01:33:01,526
without getting too deep. I

1999
01:33:01,526 --> 01:33:02,160
think that's one of those ones

2000
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,996
where we could address a

2001
01:33:04,996 --> 01:33:06,231
little deeper in writing. We

2002
01:33:06,231 --> 01:33:08,600
want the leaders in this

2003
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:09,734
space. There's a couple major

2004
01:33:09,734 --> 01:33:11,703
groups that do these

2005
01:33:11,703 --> 01:33:13,705
evaluations nationally and I

2006
01:33:13,705 --> 01:33:15,473
would if perfect world, I want

2007
01:33:15,473 --> 01:33:16,174
the best. And one of the

2008
01:33:16,174 --> 01:33:18,574
leaders historically has been

2009
01:33:19,477 --> 01:33:20,111
the University of Chicago,

2010
01:33:20,111 --> 01:33:21,246
their urban health labs.

2011
01:33:21,246 --> 01:33:21,980
They've actually coming, I

2012
01:33:21,980 --> 01:33:22,947
think, presented to this group

2013
01:33:22,947 --> 01:33:26,651
a couple years ago or a year

2014
01:33:26,651 --> 01:33:27,319
ago. Seems like a lifetime ago

2015
01:33:27,319 --> 01:33:29,870
the beauty about what we've

2016
01:33:29,870 --> 01:33:30,321
been able to accomplish is

2017
01:33:30,321 --> 01:33:33,321
that these groups are actually

2018
01:33:33,758 --> 01:33:34,459
reaching out. They want attach

2019
01:33:34,459 --> 01:33:37,459
themselves to the local fire

2020
01:33:37,662 --> 01:33:38,296
department macro program. Then

2021
01:33:38,296 --> 01:33:38,930
that's how we're in this

2022
01:33:38,930 --> 01:33:39,597
community of practice and

2023
01:33:39,597 --> 01:33:42,300
Harvard. That's how are the

2024
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:42,967
leading West Coast city on

2025
01:33:42,967 --> 01:33:44,967
21 million 12 million cause

2026
01:33:46,237 --> 01:33:48,473
initiative. So that it really

2027
01:33:48,473 --> 01:33:50,141
just kind of speaks to what

2028
01:33:50,141 --> 01:33:52,677
we've been able to collect and

2029
01:33:52,677 --> 01:33:53,378
show what I get into these

2030
01:33:53,378 --> 01:33:55,378
national conversations. They

2031
01:33:55,780 --> 01:33:56,448
don't even have out of the

2032
01:33:56,448 --> 01:33:58,483
data that we've that we ask

2033
01:33:58,483 --> 01:33:59,117
our teams to collect. And we

2034
01:33:59,117 --> 01:34:02,117
have made that a priority

2035
01:34:02,220 --> 01:34:02,887
since day one. So really what

2036
01:34:02,887 --> 01:34:04,189
I look for this it and let

2037
01:34:04,189 --> 01:34:07,789
even go back a little further

2038
01:34:08,193 --> 01:34:08,860
success to me is every call.

2039
01:34:08,860 --> 01:34:10,628
Every response. And I'm not

2040
01:34:10,628 --> 01:34:11,262
going to give it a 10,000

2041
01:34:11,262 --> 01:34:11,963
foot. A real great. This

2042
01:34:11,963 --> 01:34:13,364
whenever they show up to the

2043
01:34:13,364 --> 01:34:14,299
call. They are the right team

2044
01:34:14,299 --> 01:34:15,901
because if they weren't the

2045
01:34:15,901 --> 01:34:18,404
right team, they wouldn't be

2046
01:34:18,404 --> 01:34:19,700
going. So the fact that we

2047
01:34:19,700 --> 01:34:22,700
don't even really know the

2048
01:34:22,574 --> 01:34:24,543
ceiling of demand. It's it's

2049
01:34:24,543 --> 01:34:25,677
amazing that I can look back

2050
01:34:25,677 --> 01:34:26,244
act SEPTEMBER and say we did.

2051
01:34:26,244 --> 01:34:28,244
25 calls. 25 dispatch

2052
01:34:29,614 --> 01:34:31,683
responses a day. Now I'm

2053
01:34:31,683 --> 01:34:33,218
looking potentially 30 is the

2054
01:34:33,218 --> 01:34:33,918
floor. But every few months

2055
01:34:33,918 --> 01:34:37,518
there's a new floor. So it's

2056
01:34:37,622 --> 01:34:38,289
it's growing rapidly involving

2057
01:34:38,289 --> 01:34:40,625
in a way that we're doing a

2058
01:34:40,625 --> 01:34:42,194
great job keeping track. And

2059
01:34:42,194 --> 01:34:43,294
we have historically. But when

2060
01:34:43,294 --> 01:34:45,463
I what people that are going

2061
01:34:45,463 --> 01:34:46,431
to come in and pick it apart.

2062
01:34:46,431 --> 01:34:49,670
Look at it is if they would

2063
01:34:49,670 --> 01:34:50,301
any other place, you know,

2064
01:34:50,301 --> 01:34:51,200
whoever's got to do New York's

2065
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:51,669
evaluation. I want them to an

2066
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:53,669
Oakland evaluation because

2067
01:34:54,472 --> 01:34:56,741
it's probably going to be. The

2068
01:34:56,741 --> 01:34:57,443
best of the best. And we want

2069
01:34:57,443 --> 01:34:58,176
that because we are confident

2070
01:34:58,176 --> 01:35:01,546
in the model we're putting out

2071
01:35:01,546 --> 01:35:02,214
there and you know, as I'm

2072
01:35:02,214 --> 01:35:03,515
often told, they're talking

2073
01:35:03,515 --> 01:35:05,583
about us and looms, don't even

2074
01:35:05,583 --> 01:35:06,484
know about because of the way

2075
01:35:06,484 --> 01:35:10,840
that our responders show up in

2076
01:35:10,221 --> 01:35:11,256
the work that they do because

2077
01:35:11,256 --> 01:35:12,557
it just demonstrates that not

2078
01:35:12,557 --> 01:35:15,557
every call needs an emergency

2079
01:35:16,694 --> 01:35:18,663
response. And and when I can

2080
01:35:18,663 --> 01:35:19,764
look back and what we did the

2081
01:35:19,764 --> 01:35:20,498
first year, 400 dispatch

2082
01:35:20,498 --> 01:35:23,498
responses. And now I'm looking

2083
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,200
at 7,000. That's not even to 5

2084
01:35:27,105 --> 01:35:27,939
years. Who knows how much more

2085
01:35:27,939 --> 01:35:28,640
is out there. But I can

2086
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,642
promise this group in any one

2087
01:35:30,642 --> 01:35:31,376
of the city of Oakland that

2088
01:35:31,376 --> 01:35:34,376
our medical responders will be

2089
01:35:34,779 --> 01:35:37,549
there every day trying. I

2090
01:35:37,549 --> 01:35:39,318
didn't see that in here as

2091
01:35:39,318 --> 01:35:40,485
that. And that's a Jones

2092
01:35:40,485 --> 01:35:42,520
exclusive. We have to write

2093
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,856
this kind of with a broader if

2094
01:35:44,856 --> 01:35:48,693
we make it to of it gets

2095
01:35:48,693 --> 01:35:49,360
pulled down. So it's, you

2096
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:50,610
know, analysts is reviewing

2097
01:35:50,610 --> 01:35:50,795
this a bunch of other people.

2098
01:35:50,795 --> 01:35:53,932
I imagine that attorneys got a

2099
01:35:53,932 --> 01:35:54,666
look at it. They're going to

2100
01:35:54,666 --> 01:35:58,266
want it. Probably a very, you

2101
01:35:59,337 --> 01:36:00,605
know, you know, plain bread

2102
01:36:00,605 --> 01:36:02,107
thing. But there's this isn't

2103
01:36:02,107 --> 01:36:02,807
the only evaluation. I would

2104
01:36:02,807 --> 01:36:04,976
also like to say this should

2105
01:36:04,976 --> 01:36:06,945
just be the first and there

2106
01:36:06,945 --> 01:36:09,215
should be a consistent plan

2107
01:36:09,215 --> 01:36:11,615
across all departments. But

2108
01:36:12,485 --> 01:36:13,318
and macro specifically are are

2109
01:36:13,318 --> 01:36:15,120
our program every few years.

2110
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,187
There should be an evaluation

2111
01:36:16,187 --> 01:36:16,921
going. And because that's the

2112
01:36:16,921 --> 01:36:17,822
only way you can stay current.

2113
01:36:17,822 --> 01:36:19,724
You can stay flexible. You can

2114
01:36:19,724 --> 01:36:20,692
stay ahead of whatever is

2115
01:36:20,692 --> 01:36:22,393
coming. And I know that MAY

2116
01:36:22,393 --> 01:36:24,363
not be a financially prudent

2117
01:36:24,363 --> 01:36:24,996
decision, but as long as we

2118
01:36:24,996 --> 01:36:26,264
have this committee here,

2119
01:36:26,264 --> 01:36:27,599
helping us fund for these

2120
01:36:27,599 --> 01:36:28,266
important activities that

2121
01:36:28,266 --> 01:36:29,601
benefit the program in the

2122
01:36:29,601 --> 01:36:32,601
city, I'll be here presenting

2123
01:36:37,142 --> 01:36:37,809
and pulling for it. If I could

2124
01:36:37,809 --> 01:36:39,744
just add to that. That's a

2125
01:36:39,744 --> 01:36:41,744
great question. Commissioner

2126
01:36:41,846 --> 01:36:44,783
win. I think when you think

2127
01:36:44,783 --> 01:36:46,117
about success, that is where

2128
01:36:46,117 --> 01:36:47,418
that's what we're shooting

2129
01:36:47,418 --> 01:36:48,870
for. We're trying to figure

2130
01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:49,921
out what the Des finishing

2131
01:36:49,921 --> 01:36:52,591
that success is for Oakland,

2132
01:36:52,591 --> 01:36:54,192
macro throughout the history

2133
01:36:54,192 --> 01:36:54,759
of macro, most people

2134
01:36:54,759 --> 01:36:56,628
throughout the city,

2135
01:36:56,628 --> 01:36:59,280
especially people who are

2136
01:36:59,831 --> 01:37:00,532
vested seeing what macros

2137
01:37:00,532 --> 01:37:01,232
going to come once a macro to

2138
01:37:01,232 --> 01:37:03,935
be a duplicate of some other

2139
01:37:03,935 --> 01:37:05,304
place in our country. And that

2140
01:37:05,304 --> 01:37:06,104
just doesn't work Oakland

2141
01:37:06,104 --> 01:37:07,939
because opened such an unique

2142
01:37:07,939 --> 01:37:10,141
place. So we want to make sure

2143
01:37:10,141 --> 01:37:10,842
that as we build that out,

2144
01:37:10,842 --> 01:37:11,544
that's why we're reaching out

2145
01:37:11,544 --> 01:37:14,544
to the commissioners into the

2146
01:37:14,913 --> 01:37:15,980
community to say what do we

2147
01:37:15,980 --> 01:37:16,781
want a macro team to be? You

2148
01:37:16,781 --> 01:37:19,651
know, what lane do we want

2149
01:37:19,651 --> 01:37:20,318
makua live in because

2150
01:37:20,318 --> 01:37:22,718
historically macro has been

2151
01:37:23,289 --> 01:37:25,560
asked to do 1000 different

2152
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:26,624
things and there's real. No

2153
01:37:26,624 --> 01:37:28,159
real lane that macro lives in.

2154
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:29,494
So we've been trying to create

2155
01:37:29,494 --> 01:37:33,940
that name over the last couple

2156
01:37:33,264 --> 01:37:34,165
of years so that we can have

2157
01:37:34,165 --> 01:37:34,933
data and we can have a model

2158
01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:37,635
that you could take somewhere

2159
01:37:37,635 --> 01:37:38,436
else in the country and

2160
01:37:38,436 --> 01:37:41,173
duplicate. But right now, if

2161
01:37:41,173 --> 01:37:41,873
we were so spread out, we're

2162
01:37:41,873 --> 01:37:43,842
really trying them that lined

2163
01:37:43,842 --> 01:37:44,609
up so that the city

2164
01:37:44,609 --> 01:37:46,545
understands this is what your

2165
01:37:46,545 --> 01:37:47,813
macro team can be counted on

2166
01:37:47,813 --> 01:37:51,349
to do. One thing that Elliott

2167
01:37:51,349 --> 01:37:52,251
didn't mention is that he's

2168
01:37:52,251 --> 01:37:54,651
putting together a convening

2169
01:37:55,190 --> 01:37:57,550
of other alternative. Response

2170
01:37:57,550 --> 01:37:57,757
teams from around the country.

2171
01:37:57,757 --> 01:38:00,925
You know, we want America to

2172
01:38:00,925 --> 01:38:01,626
be the best of the best. And

2173
01:38:01,626 --> 01:38:02,327
we think that success leaves

2174
01:38:02,327 --> 01:38:05,697
clues. So we want to talk to

2175
01:38:05,697 --> 01:38:06,364
all these other. You know,

2176
01:38:06,364 --> 01:38:08,364
alternative delivery group

2177
01:38:10,301 --> 01:38:10,970
Cincy take pieces from. All

2178
01:38:10,970 --> 01:38:12,805
these different successful

2179
01:38:12,805 --> 01:38:14,672
teams and make our macro team

2180
01:38:14,672 --> 01:38:15,406
what works best for Oakland.

2181
01:38:15,406 --> 01:38:19,600
So that's also coming down the

2182
01:38:21,146 --> 01:38:21,913
Pike. Thank you both. I

2183
01:38:21,913 --> 01:38:23,648
believe that it's the best

2184
01:38:23,648 --> 01:38:26,648
thing on her tonight. Yeah.

2185
01:38:28,860 --> 01:38:28,753
What you just said, chief.

2186
01:38:28,753 --> 01:38:29,454
Because if you gone be the

2187
01:38:29,454 --> 01:38:30,789
best, you got to go research

2188
01:38:30,789 --> 01:38:33,593
with the best and then make

2189
01:38:33,593 --> 01:38:35,226
ours the best. That's what opd

2190
01:38:35,226 --> 01:38:37,626
deal with cease-fire. And

2191
01:38:38,730 --> 01:38:39,465
that's why they will tap. And

2192
01:38:39,465 --> 01:38:42,465
I believe with your leadership

2193
01:38:42,968 --> 01:38:45,637
and your leadership does Mike

2194
01:38:45,637 --> 01:38:46,372
Macro can go to a place where

2195
01:38:46,372 --> 01:38:47,106
people become a test and I get

2196
01:38:47,106 --> 01:38:47,772
to go around the country. When

2197
01:38:47,772 --> 01:38:49,375
I go to my meetings going.

2198
01:38:49,375 --> 01:38:52,477
Yeah, we have Beth. I love

2199
01:38:52,477 --> 01:38:55,413
bragging like that. Believe we

2200
01:38:55,413 --> 01:38:56,810
have the best. But with to

2201
01:38:56,810 --> 01:38:59,810
doing that, I will support

2202
01:39:00,386 --> 01:39:01,553
that part of it. 100%.

2203
01:39:01,553 --> 01:39:02,254
Speaking to who I need to

2204
01:39:02,254 --> 01:39:05,825
speak to, to make that happen

2205
01:39:05,825 --> 01:39:06,525
because if we can do that and

2206
01:39:06,525 --> 01:39:08,594
get my I think they just sit

2207
01:39:08,594 --> 01:39:11,463
at Mackle in the lane that we

2208
01:39:11,463 --> 01:39:12,897
know exactly what they're

2209
01:39:12,897 --> 01:39:15,301
doing. This is exactly what we

2210
01:39:15,301 --> 01:39:16,434
want them to do. No, we don't

2211
01:39:16,434 --> 01:39:18,170
do that. You know, cease-fire.

2212
01:39:18,170 --> 01:39:20,538
We're not saying that's the

2213
01:39:20,538 --> 01:39:21,239
only being that opd does.

2214
01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:24,239
We're not saying that. We're

2215
01:39:24,543 --> 01:39:25,210
saying this is one to that

2216
01:39:25,210 --> 01:39:27,813
city to that. We know that

2217
01:39:27,813 --> 01:39:28,513
data driven that works. If you

2218
01:39:28,513 --> 01:39:32,113
give us a data driven, micro

2219
01:39:32,584 --> 01:39:34,619
macro. Trucks and this is what

2220
01:39:34,619 --> 01:39:35,320
they do, then I can defend

2221
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:36,454
know this is what we do. You

2222
01:39:36,454 --> 01:39:37,288
ask them do something outside

2223
01:39:37,288 --> 01:39:37,989
that I think that's what we're

2224
01:39:37,989 --> 01:39:39,624
trying to get to. What do you

2225
01:39:39,624 --> 01:39:41,126
want to do? When do you want

2226
01:39:41,126 --> 01:39:42,930
to do it? How you want to do

2227
01:39:42,930 --> 01:39:46,293
it and they let us know and

2228
01:39:46,564 --> 01:39:48,134
how does it improve our

2229
01:39:48,134 --> 01:39:50,401
community? Is it? You know, we

2230
01:39:50,401 --> 01:39:51,102
stop it. Every person on the

2231
01:39:51,102 --> 01:39:51,771
corner or is it that we wait

2232
01:39:51,771 --> 01:39:53,772
for a call? We need to know

2233
01:39:53,772 --> 01:39:54,973
those things. As I listened to

2234
01:39:54,973 --> 01:39:56,908
much, if you know, as I

2235
01:39:56,908 --> 01:39:59,711
listened, Todd talk them out

2236
01:39:59,711 --> 01:40:00,945
at you what I want to hear.

2237
01:40:00,945 --> 01:40:02,947
But tonight you see it what I

2238
01:40:02,947 --> 01:40:03,615
want to hear the whole time.

2239
01:40:03,615 --> 01:40:06,684
What are we going to do to

2240
01:40:06,684 --> 01:40:07,418
make the best? How we got a

2241
01:40:07,418 --> 01:40:08,153
great the best and then we can

2242
01:40:08,153 --> 01:40:12,353
get where we need to be. Thank

2243
01:40:16,327 --> 01:40:17,610
you very much. Absolutely.

2244
01:40:17,610 --> 01:40:20,298
Cool. Second, all of that is a

2245
01:40:20,298 --> 01:40:22,698
great questions. Great points

2246
01:40:23,468 --> 01:40:26,468
in the interest of everybody's

2247
01:40:26,571 --> 01:40:27,238
time. I'll just since will be,

2248
01:40:27,238 --> 01:40:30,676
you know, doing this is the

2249
01:40:30,676 --> 01:40:33,760
iterative process. Outside of

2250
01:40:34,779 --> 01:40:35,380
this Saturday's There's just a

2251
01:40:35,380 --> 01:40:36,681
couple things that I'll

2252
01:40:36,681 --> 01:40:37,816
highlight so that way people

2253
01:40:37,816 --> 01:40:38,483
can know what I've been

2254
01:40:38,483 --> 01:40:39,185
thinking about the rfp and

2255
01:40:39,185 --> 01:40:42,185
would be surprised when there

2256
01:40:43,555 --> 01:40:44,923
are these edited. In It does

2257
01:40:44,923 --> 01:40:45,658
say logic model or theory of

2258
01:40:45,658 --> 01:40:48,326
change. I do think it would be

2259
01:40:48,326 --> 01:40:48,993
helpful to include both. Are

2260
01:40:48,993 --> 01:40:50,993
different rules, different

2261
01:40:53,264 --> 01:40:53,933
purposes. In scope be conduct

2262
01:40:53,933 --> 01:40:55,933
20 key informant interviews

2263
01:40:56,901 --> 01:40:59,300
over 12 months. Do you think

2264
01:40:59,300 --> 01:41:01,106
that it would be important to

2265
01:41:01,106 --> 01:41:02,807
I just that to a shorter time

2266
01:41:02,807 --> 01:41:03,542
frame because if data

2267
01:41:03,542 --> 01:41:04,210
collection is going for a full

2268
01:41:04,210 --> 01:41:04,909
year, there's not time for

2269
01:41:04,909 --> 01:41:07,909
analysis and then writing the

2270
01:41:08,114 --> 01:41:11,114
actual report in my experience

2271
01:41:11,150 --> 01:41:12,500
in doing valuations. But the

2272
01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:14,450
data collection period ideally

2273
01:41:14,819 --> 01:41:16,688
is is one year. But that's one

2274
01:41:16,688 --> 01:41:19,880
of their success this

2275
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:22,260
evaluations. And so shortening

2276
01:41:22,260 --> 01:41:23,262
it to 9 months. And so they

2277
01:41:23,262 --> 01:41:25,290
few months for bribing and

2278
01:41:25,290 --> 01:41:25,663
data collection would probably

2279
01:41:25,663 --> 01:41:26,265
be beneficial, especially

2280
01:41:26,265 --> 01:41:29,265
since all the data not

2281
01:41:29,634 --> 01:41:31,536
respected. One note on that, I

2282
01:41:31,536 --> 01:41:32,570
think some of the time frames

2283
01:41:32,570 --> 01:41:34,472
were recommended to us by the

2284
01:41:34,472 --> 01:41:36,508
analysis group to to leave a

2285
01:41:36,508 --> 01:41:37,475
breath. But I think if we we

2286
01:41:37,475 --> 01:41:40,645
put a shorter time frame in

2287
01:41:40,645 --> 01:41:42,213
the recommendation, if they

2288
01:41:42,213 --> 01:41:43,181
dispute that again for the,

2289
01:41:43,181 --> 01:41:43,882
you know, the previous

2290
01:41:43,882 --> 01:41:46,417
reasons. Think we should try,

2291
01:41:46,417 --> 01:41:47,118
I'm in agreement. And it's

2292
01:41:47,118 --> 01:41:48,954
going to be open competitive

2293
01:41:48,954 --> 01:41:52,524
bid anyways at the home. Their

2294
01:41:52,524 --> 01:41:53,725
input well appreciated.

2295
01:41:53,725 --> 01:41:55,725
Instructive. Absolutely.

2296
01:42:03,568 --> 01:42:05,470
Absolutely. C In the last

2297
01:42:05,470 --> 01:42:06,871
paragraph. It states that the

2298
01:42:06,871 --> 01:42:08,807
final report will be provided

2299
01:42:08,807 --> 01:42:09,507
3 months after the Post study

2300
01:42:09,507 --> 01:42:12,507
period. This would require a

2301
01:42:14,345 --> 01:42:15,947
15 month time The one year and

2302
01:42:15,947 --> 01:42:16,681
given are time constraints. I

2303
01:42:16,681 --> 01:42:17,315
think pushing tighter timeline

2304
01:42:17,315 --> 01:42:20,315
of the important there as

2305
01:42:23,588 --> 01:42:24,656
well. And scope be part I

2306
01:42:24,656 --> 01:42:27,560
would suggest, including the

2307
01:42:27,992 --> 01:42:28,860
commission and for perhaps

2308
01:42:28,860 --> 01:42:30,628
former members of the advisory

2309
01:42:30,628 --> 01:42:31,196
board in some of those k eyes.

2310
01:42:31,196 --> 01:42:33,596
As for the historical

2311
01:42:37,903 --> 01:42:38,771
knowledge. Would you be open

2312
01:42:38,771 --> 01:42:39,370
to including the commission in

2313
01:42:39,370 --> 01:42:39,905
the development of the

2314
01:42:39,905 --> 01:42:41,905
research questions?

2315
01:42:45,376 --> 01:42:48,179
Absolutely. And then fact, I

2316
01:42:48,179 --> 01:42:49,681
would love if you all to total

2317
01:42:49,681 --> 01:42:53,881
lead on the just handed me the

2318
01:42:54,753 --> 01:42:55,487
questions that will be fine.

2319
01:42:55,487 --> 01:42:56,154
Billy evaluators for recommend

2320
01:42:56,154 --> 01:42:59,154
the adoption of a specific

2321
01:43:00,125 --> 01:43:00,759
model. I don't believe I don't

2322
01:43:00,759 --> 01:43:02,260
believe that that was

2323
01:43:02,260 --> 01:43:03,610
something that was more of how

2324
01:43:03,610 --> 01:43:06,131
did we do with the model we

2325
01:43:06,131 --> 01:43:06,998
implemented? But I. You know,

2326
01:43:06,998 --> 01:43:08,466
I think that that there's room

2327
01:43:08,466 --> 01:43:10,635
for that MAY be in there, but

2328
01:43:10,635 --> 01:43:13,635
I don't know that totally

2329
01:43:15,907 --> 01:43:16,608
sure. Gotcha. And then what

2330
01:43:16,608 --> 01:43:20,208
are you open to developing an

2331
01:43:20,278 --> 01:43:22,981
rfp for strategic planning by

2332
01:43:22,981 --> 01:43:23,783
the end of quarter one in 2027

2333
01:43:23,783 --> 01:43:24,383
just to ensure the process

2334
01:43:24,383 --> 01:43:26,783
starts right after the

2335
01:43:29,854 --> 01:43:32,254
evaluation. Do you need 2028?

2336
01:43:33,158 --> 01:43:34,859
2027 Okay. If you cause if you

2337
01:43:34,859 --> 01:43:35,560
developed yearly and we all

2338
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,930
know how long to that at all.

2339
01:43:38,930 --> 01:43:40,231
I think that's that's fine.

2340
01:43:40,231 --> 01:43:41,266
And then just a bit of

2341
01:43:41,266 --> 01:43:42,667
background before the

2342
01:43:42,667 --> 01:43:43,368
Behavioral Health Services Act

2343
01:43:43,368 --> 01:43:45,370
was enacted this year, there

2344
01:43:45,370 --> 01:43:48,370
was the Mental Health Services

2345
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:50,275
Act and the image is safe and

2346
01:43:50,275 --> 01:43:51,342
innovation projects.

2347
01:43:51,342 --> 01:43:53,278
Innovation projects have

2348
01:43:53,278 --> 01:43:54,120
yearly evaluations and

2349
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:55,947
technical assistance to ensure

2350
01:43:55,947 --> 01:43:58,947
that newer projects similar to

2351
01:43:58,983 --> 01:43:59,818
macro are on the right track

2352
01:43:59,818 --> 01:44:01,152
and can make timely

2353
01:44:01,152 --> 01:44:02,221
adjustments to their program

2354
01:44:02,221 --> 01:44:02,921
improve efficacy, awareness,

2355
01:44:02,921 --> 01:44:03,655
cetera. I will say awareness

2356
01:44:03,655 --> 01:44:07,255
is always an uphill battle for

2357
01:44:07,258 --> 01:44:09,194
new programs. Are you open to?

2358
01:44:09,194 --> 01:44:09,994
You did say that you're open

2359
01:44:09,994 --> 01:44:12,394
to connecting yearly outcome

2360
01:44:12,831 --> 01:44:14,132
or yearly evaluations. Could

2361
01:44:14,132 --> 01:44:15,700
those be outcome valuations?

2362
01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:18,700
And assuming that the funding

2363
01:44:21,500 --> 01:44:21,706
is available? Yearly

2364
01:44:21,706 --> 01:44:23,706
evaluations after this

2365
01:44:24,542 --> 01:44:25,176
strategic planning process. If

2366
01:44:25,176 --> 01:44:27,576
the funding is available,

2367
01:44:30,315 --> 01:44:30,982
we're open to it. And is there

2368
01:44:30,982 --> 01:44:31,950
any way that the commission

2369
01:44:31,950 --> 01:44:33,852
can support the macro program

2370
01:44:33,852 --> 01:44:35,754
that side of what we've

2371
01:44:35,754 --> 01:44:36,788
already discussed? I think if

2372
01:44:36,788 --> 01:44:38,690
our focus right now is on the

2373
01:44:38,690 --> 01:44:39,424
evaluation side of it, that's

2374
01:44:39,424 --> 01:44:40,425
the best support we could have

2375
01:44:40,425 --> 01:44:41,126
as we get into the new year

2376
01:44:41,126 --> 01:44:42,927
and into the winter. We would

2377
01:44:42,927 --> 01:44:44,863
love your support on some of

2378
01:44:44,863 --> 01:44:45,530
our volunteer and supplies

2379
01:44:45,530 --> 01:44:47,530
donation opportunities. We

2380
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:48,967
need to get the word out. Of

2381
01:44:48,967 --> 01:44:50,769
course, just overall awareness

2382
01:44:50,769 --> 01:44:52,104
continuing to tell your

2383
01:44:52,104 --> 01:44:54,105
networks and and bringing us

2384
01:44:54,105 --> 01:44:56,474
here to talk. It does a lot so

2385
01:44:56,474 --> 01:45:00,445
we would love to work with the

2386
01:45:00,445 --> 01:45:01,379
commission so, yeah, there's

2387
01:45:01,379 --> 01:45:02,147
could think of variety of

2388
01:45:02,147 --> 01:45:04,849
things as we get into the

2389
01:45:04,849 --> 01:45:05,750
holiday season and that the

2390
01:45:05,750 --> 01:45:06,417
weather we were asking, we're

2391
01:45:06,417 --> 01:45:08,817
talking everybody. So there

2392
01:45:09,287 --> 01:45:12,287
will be some opportunity. You

2393
01:45:17,996 --> 01:45:20,432
questions. I actually have a

2394
01:45:20,432 --> 01:45:23,432
question it's a question you

2395
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:25,804
and I have regarding

2396
01:45:25,804 --> 01:45:27,804
implementation evaluation and

2397
01:45:31,811 --> 01:45:32,545
that is outcomes. Yes. And

2398
01:45:32,545 --> 01:45:33,813
armed. And did I just hear you

2399
01:45:33,813 --> 01:45:34,479
say that the outcomes

2400
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,879
evaluation will come after

2401
01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:40,585
this tragic to choose plan or

2402
01:45:40,585 --> 01:45:44,185
is are we? Adding any out

2403
01:45:45,723 --> 01:45:47,192
comes to this particular? Rfp.

2404
01:45:47,192 --> 01:45:48,260
I personally love to outcomes

2405
01:45:48,260 --> 01:45:50,260
incorporated into this

2406
01:45:50,161 --> 01:45:51,529
implementation evaluation just

2407
01:45:51,529 --> 01:45:52,464
because since most of it is

2408
01:45:52,464 --> 01:45:55,266
going to be qualitative since

2409
01:45:55,266 --> 01:45:57,100
the date already exists. I

2410
01:45:57,100 --> 01:45:58,904
think it's pretty seamless to

2411
01:45:58,904 --> 01:45:59,571
incorporate questions about

2412
01:45:59,571 --> 01:46:01,971
outcomes and awareness into

2413
01:46:05,443 --> 01:46:06,111
those protocols. Then from

2414
01:46:06,111 --> 01:46:08,511
there a strategic planning

2415
01:46:09,581 --> 01:46:11,749
process. And then from their

2416
01:46:11,749 --> 01:46:13,749
yearly outcome evaluations.

2417
01:46:17,188 --> 01:46:17,922
We're all for that. That

2418
01:46:17,922 --> 01:46:18,624
whatever you lies recommended.

2419
01:46:18,624 --> 01:46:19,824
And we added, We're Florida.

2420
01:46:19,824 --> 01:46:20,525
That's part of those

2421
01:46:20,525 --> 01:46:22,925
recommendations. They will be

2422
01:46:24,395 --> 01:46:25,960
in the Arctic. Ok? I just want

2423
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,665
to make we put that out there

2424
01:46:27,665 --> 01:46:31,636
on the table and it will be

2425
01:46:31,636 --> 01:46:34,360
included those those proposed

2426
01:46:34,506 --> 01:46:35,206
outcomes and of course, of the

2427
01:46:35,206 --> 01:46:36,608
discussion and dialogue about

2428
01:46:36,608 --> 01:46:38,643
that yet be in writing as

2429
01:46:38,643 --> 01:46:39,310
well. Yes, thank you. That's a

2430
01:46:39,310 --> 01:46:42,310
good reminder. So for next

2431
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,800
steps. The other commissioners

2432
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:47,418
will send in their thoughts on

2433
01:46:47,418 --> 01:46:51,180
on the rfp. I will compile

2434
01:46:51,122 --> 01:46:55,322
them bring that over to la. We

2435
01:46:55,460 --> 01:46:55,960
can have a discussion. Next

2436
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,360
week. If you have

2437
01:47:01,299 --> 01:47:02,801
availability. And then from

2438
01:47:02,801 --> 01:47:03,435
there, we'll create another

2439
01:47:03,435 --> 01:47:06,435
rfp. And depending on the

2440
01:47:07,572 --> 01:47:08,206
timing of it. It can go out to

2441
01:47:08,206 --> 01:47:10,206
there. Commissioners for

2442
01:47:11,676 --> 01:47:12,377
asynchronous review. Prior to

2443
01:47:12,377 --> 01:47:13,440
our next meeting and then

2444
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,880
hopefully we can approve it

2445
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,481
and get it. A pretty to going

2446
01:47:16,481 --> 01:47:18,481
through the contracting

2447
01:47:19,551 --> 01:47:20,318
process. Buyer NOVEMBER

2448
01:47:20,318 --> 01:47:23,918
meeting, which we MAY also be

2449
01:47:26,910 --> 01:47:26,791
moving. Depending on

2450
01:47:26,791 --> 01:47:27,525
scheduling said no to Monday

2451
01:47:27,525 --> 01:47:28,193
after Thanksgiving. But that's

2452
01:47:28,193 --> 01:47:31,793
a whole other issue that we

2453
01:47:32,664 --> 01:47:33,264
can get into. One request As

2454
01:47:33,264 --> 01:47:35,664
you read the document,

2455
01:47:35,801 --> 01:47:36,434
displease track changes so we

2456
01:47:36,434 --> 01:47:37,535
can to see that changes.

2457
01:47:37,535 --> 01:47:40,535
Clearly that wasn't it. Yeah,

2458
01:47:42,774 --> 01:47:45,774
definitely. I'm sorry. I have

2459
01:47:46,444 --> 01:47:47,712
one more question chair chief,

2460
01:47:47,712 --> 01:47:49,247
did you want to add anything

2461
01:47:49,247 --> 01:47:49,914
about that? We just discussed

2462
01:47:49,914 --> 01:47:52,650
in terms outcomes about the

2463
01:47:52,650 --> 01:47:55,650
process. Thank you. I wanted

2464
01:47:58,823 --> 01:47:59,524
to make sure. Okay. So we can

2465
01:47:59,524 --> 01:48:03,124
move on to public comment on

2466
01:48:07,165 --> 01:48:07,866
this item. Sir, you in there.

2467
01:48:07,866 --> 01:48:12,660
Yes, I did see one were hand

2468
01:48:12,704 --> 01:48:13,304
raised. And also commissioner

2469
01:48:13,304 --> 01:48:16,904
to know if you have any

2470
01:48:17,408 --> 01:48:19,808
comment on the. Implementation

2471
01:48:21,112 --> 01:48:21,847
evaluation discussion. I seen

2472
01:48:21,847 --> 01:48:24,247
Commissioner Chuck Lovell came

2473
01:48:27,719 --> 01:48:28,754
off mute. Sweet to been asking

2474
01:48:28,754 --> 01:48:29,421
wonderful questions, which

2475
01:48:29,421 --> 01:48:30,922
leaves me with no questions

2476
01:48:30,922 --> 01:48:34,522
and they and about that? So

2477
01:48:34,859 --> 01:48:37,259
thank you. Thank you,

2478
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:41,229
commissioner, to And I will

2479
01:48:51,709 --> 01:48:55,309
start my clot. I want to

2480
01:48:58,416 --> 01:49:02,160
speak. It's all about you can

2481
01:49:03,788 --> 01:49:05,990
be in your comments. Yes,

2482
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:07,990
inquiring. If evaluation.

2483
01:49:08,661 --> 01:49:12,261
We'll look at the impact of

2484
01:49:12,864 --> 01:49:14,165
the fact that macro does not

2485
01:49:14,165 --> 01:49:17,165
have the legal authority to

2486
01:49:17,202 --> 01:49:18,690
commit individuals involuntary

2487
01:49:18,690 --> 01:49:20,469
want to handle 51 50 mental

2488
01:49:22,140 --> 01:49:23,808
health holes. If that is

2489
01:49:23,808 --> 01:49:24,542
necessary, they have to call

2490
01:49:24,542 --> 01:49:26,744
the Oakland police officer to

2491
01:49:26,744 --> 01:49:27,345
the scene in order to do that.

2492
01:49:27,345 --> 01:49:30,215
If they were given the

2493
01:49:30,215 --> 01:49:30,915
authority. They could at

2494
01:49:30,915 --> 01:49:33,915
Quicken that that quickly on

2495
01:49:34,953 --> 01:49:37,756
this. Also because the on on

2496
01:49:37,756 --> 01:49:39,756
civilians. Situations that

2497
01:49:41,126 --> 01:49:41,726
they are involved with often

2498
01:49:41,726 --> 01:49:43,726
involve imminent danger

2499
01:49:46,464 --> 01:49:48,399
violence. Will evaluation.

2500
01:49:48,399 --> 01:49:50,702
Look at the incidents which

2501
01:49:50,702 --> 01:49:53,338
they had to deal with those

2502
01:49:53,338 --> 01:49:55,440
situations that work threat to

2503
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:58,440
bought online hole to the

2504
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:01,312
macro employees. Could they

2505
01:50:01,312 --> 01:50:04,912
also be a point of the

2506
01:50:06,484 --> 01:50:09,870
evaluation? That looks at? The

2507
01:50:09,870 --> 01:50:12,870
service is a resource is

2508
01:50:12,857 --> 01:50:13,491
needed. An honor to follow-up.

2509
01:50:13,491 --> 01:50:14,993
With the involvement with

2510
01:50:14,993 --> 01:50:17,393
individuals. Some people need

2511
01:50:19,464 --> 01:50:20,198
housing. Some people need

2512
01:50:20,198 --> 01:50:22,198
medical assistance. Some

2513
01:50:22,467 --> 01:50:23,101
people need to have drug

2514
01:50:23,101 --> 01:50:25,101
assessment besides mental

2515
01:50:27,105 --> 01:50:30,105
health issues. And lastly. I

2516
01:50:30,275 --> 01:50:34,475
went on right a little, but it

2517
01:50:34,546 --> 01:50:35,213
was years ago and everybody I

2518
01:50:35,213 --> 01:50:37,613
encountered was a homeless

2519
01:50:38,484 --> 01:50:42,840
individual. So could they be a

2520
01:50:43,540 --> 01:50:45,790
breakdown in the van valuation

2521
01:50:45,790 --> 01:50:46,292
of individuals? You certain

2522
01:50:46,292 --> 01:50:48,292
drug involvement,

2523
01:50:49,794 --> 01:50:52,194
homelessness. What of the

2524
01:50:52,497 --> 01:50:53,498
classification? A subgroup?

2525
01:50:53,498 --> 01:50:56,498
That can determine how many

2526
01:50:57,702 --> 01:50:58,736
groups, one vote. Lastly, will

2527
01:50:58,736 --> 01:51:02,336
they effort to move in the

2528
01:51:02,707 --> 01:51:04,342
valuation? Currently micro can

2529
01:51:04,342 --> 01:51:07,342
only intervene with people who

2530
01:51:08,246 --> 01:51:11,500
on the street. Will they move

2531
01:51:11,500 --> 01:51:12,383
towards going into residential

2532
01:51:12,383 --> 01:51:14,383
housing commercial buildings

2533
01:51:18,890 --> 01:51:19,624
to do intervention. Thank you

2534
01:51:19,624 --> 01:51:20,860
for your public comment. Those

2535
01:51:20,860 --> 01:51:21,559
are all great questions and

2536
01:51:21,559 --> 01:51:23,559
we'll definitely incorporate

2537
01:51:28,990 --> 01:51:31,699
them into our meeting. Do we

2538
01:51:32,637 --> 01:51:35,637
have any other public comment?

2539
01:51:39,110 --> 01:51:39,744
It's likely MR. Vote right?

2540
01:51:39,744 --> 01:51:41,744
Politics. David Boatright

2541
01:51:44,549 --> 01:51:45,550
district 4. Some real good

2542
01:51:45,550 --> 01:51:47,950
comments by the commission.

2543
01:51:48,686 --> 01:51:51,923
Deny that to you or eminently

2544
01:51:51,923 --> 01:51:52,490
capable. Giving guidance to

2545
01:51:52,490 --> 01:51:55,490
macro as to what this

2546
01:51:58,696 --> 01:52:00,696
implementation. Incorporates.

2547
01:52:00,965 --> 01:52:03,340
And I think MR. Elliott's been

2548
01:52:03,340 --> 01:52:05,738
in charge of macro for 4 years

2549
01:52:05,738 --> 01:52:06,671
now. I think he's eminently

2550
01:52:06,671 --> 01:52:07,505
capable of putting together

2551
01:52:07,505 --> 01:52:10,505
the study or the evaluation

2552
01:52:11,743 --> 01:52:12,777
himself or with his staff. And

2553
01:52:12,777 --> 01:52:13,445
I don't think should require

2554
01:52:13,445 --> 01:52:17,450
15 much to do. It should be

2555
01:52:18,116 --> 01:52:18,783
something done and a few

2556
01:52:18,783 --> 01:52:21,783
months 6 at the most. Less

2557
01:52:23,254 --> 01:52:24,689
than that is really possible.

2558
01:52:24,689 --> 01:52:28,289
Good luck in the guidance you

2559
01:52:29,527 --> 01:52:31,927
provide with evaluation. Thank

2560
01:52:47,779 --> 01:52:50,179
you. Absolutely feared public

2561
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,889
comment. So I move for us too.

2562
01:52:57,889 --> 01:53:00,225
I could a five-minute break.

2563
01:53:00,225 --> 01:53:02,660
Do we need to make motion on

2564
01:53:02,660 --> 01:53:03,361
any of this, though? There's

2565
01:53:03,361 --> 01:53:06,961
nothing really to vote on it.

2566
01:53:11,302 --> 01:53:12,637
We just kind of see move to

2567
01:53:12,637 --> 01:53:14,439
acknowledge receipt of the

2568
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,439
macro evaluation. Our fee. A

2569
01:53:25,116 --> 01:53:28,116
second. Okay. I'll call the

2570
01:53:30,889 --> 01:53:33,570
roll. Chair I. Vice Chair Vice

2571
01:53:33,570 --> 01:53:35,570
Chair Gutierrez. Hi.

2572
01:53:39,197 --> 01:53:42,197
Commissioner to come by. Thank

2573
01:53:44,402 --> 01:53:46,204
you, Commissioner win. And

2574
01:53:46,204 --> 01:53:48,604
Commissioner Dixon. All right.

2575
01:53:48,706 --> 01:53:51,106
Thank you. Motion passed.

2576
01:53:52,510 --> 01:53:54,179
Great. Let's take. 8 minutes.

2577
01:53:54,179 --> 01:53:54,879
We'll come back at 8 o'clock

2578
01:53:54,879 --> 01:53:58,479
and move through the rest of

2579
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,160
our.

2580
01:54:34,285 --> 01:54:37,885
Can. I thank you. I know.

2581
02:05:50,595 --> 02:05:53,980
Okay. So bringing back to the

2582
02:05:53,980 --> 02:05:56,698
meeting. And next up, we have

2583
02:06:00,205 --> 02:06:02,605
a couple. Informational items

2584
02:06:05,710 --> 02:06:06,411
case? Yes, exactly. So first

2585
02:06:06,411 --> 02:06:07,110
up is the discussion for

2586
02:06:07,110 --> 02:06:07,579
recommendations to city

2587
02:06:07,579 --> 02:06:09,581
council at the Joint

2588
02:06:09,581 --> 02:06:11,981
Commission meeting. So the

2589
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:13,818
Joint Commission meeting

2590
02:06:13,818 --> 02:06:14,552
inflation, please feel free to

2591
02:06:14,552 --> 02:06:18,152
chime in and add to this

2592
02:06:20,525 --> 02:06:22,925
where. Our commission party

2593
02:06:25,263 --> 02:06:26,464
dpp and reason yet the 3

2594
02:06:26,464 --> 02:06:27,465
departments also present their

2595
02:06:27,465 --> 02:06:28,199
updates. And then there are

2596
02:06:28,199 --> 02:06:28,933
other commission meeting other

2597
02:06:28,933 --> 02:06:31,333
commissions attending as well,

2598
02:06:31,436 --> 02:06:32,971
which ones are those? It's the

2599
02:06:32,971 --> 02:06:33,938
police commission and

2600
02:06:33,938 --> 02:06:35,938
community Policing advisory

2601
02:06:38,276 --> 02:06:39,377
board. Yes, thank you. So we

2602
02:06:39,377 --> 02:06:40,780
have the opportunity to make

2603
02:06:40,780 --> 02:06:42,780
recommendations to city

2604
02:06:42,714 --> 02:06:45,114
Council obviously in the

2605
02:06:47,485 --> 02:06:48,186
context of our work here. I

2606
02:06:48,186 --> 02:06:48,887
think that we should discuss

2607
02:06:48,887 --> 02:06:51,287
those recommendations. One of

2608
02:06:52,324 --> 02:06:53,240
the things that Carrie and I

2609
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,424
have been discussing offline

2610
02:06:56,270 --> 02:06:58,427
is. Basically kind lobbying

2611
02:06:59,631 --> 02:07:01,666
the city, too, ensure that the

2612
02:07:01,666 --> 02:07:03,401
budget is reflective of some

2613
02:07:03,401 --> 02:07:04,680
of the smaller more community

2614
02:07:04,680 --> 02:07:06,468
focused initiatives in the

2615
02:07:08,740 --> 02:07:09,908
severe p. Like the training

2616
02:07:09,908 --> 02:07:12,908
from the fire Department for

2617
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:16,470
the community you know, I

2618
02:07:16,470 --> 02:07:18,183
don't have it all. My head.

2619
02:07:18,183 --> 02:07:20,840
But of those small little

2620
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:21,519
initiatives that are smaller,

2621
02:07:21,519 --> 02:07:22,620
high impact that we have

2622
02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:25,424
included in the cvr p we would

2623
02:07:25,424 --> 02:07:26,658
like to make sure that those

2624
02:07:26,658 --> 02:07:28,590
are prioritize. And like I

2625
02:07:28,590 --> 02:07:29,994
know that we are only a

2626
02:07:29,994 --> 02:07:31,963
quarter into cvr be. But with

2627
02:07:31,963 --> 02:07:32,697
how slow the city moves and

2628
02:07:32,697 --> 02:07:34,399
how fast the budgeting process

2629
02:07:34,399 --> 02:07:37,999
seems to move. I think it's

2630
02:07:38,970 --> 02:07:39,671
important that we. Talk about

2631
02:07:39,671 --> 02:07:41,773
to city council and make sure

2632
02:07:41,773 --> 02:07:45,373
that they no our opinion on

2633
02:07:47,912 --> 02:07:48,613
it. At least. And like with of

2634
02:07:48,613 --> 02:07:51,613
getting like a mental health

2635
02:07:51,716 --> 02:07:52,617
training, it's one of the

2636
02:07:52,617 --> 02:07:54,819
things that we have discussed

2637
02:07:54,819 --> 02:07:56,454
at length in the strategic

2638
02:07:56,454 --> 02:07:58,854
planning process, getting job

2639
02:08:00,492 --> 02:08:01,259
description. Finalized and

2640
02:08:01,259 --> 02:08:01,993
approved and move to the city.

2641
02:08:01,993 --> 02:08:04,993
Processes like that could take

2642
02:08:05,290 --> 02:08:05,697
up to a year. Like who knows

2643
02:08:05,697 --> 02:08:06,397
with the hiring process is

2644
02:08:06,397 --> 02:08:08,900
going to look like that could

2645
02:08:08,900 --> 02:08:10,301
also take a very long time.

2646
02:08:10,301 --> 02:08:13,171
And so making sure that it's

2647
02:08:13,171 --> 02:08:14,390
prioritized early on in the

2648
02:08:14,390 --> 02:08:15,674
budget. Is important to making

2649
02:08:15,674 --> 02:08:16,407
sure that at the end of this

2650
02:08:16,407 --> 02:08:18,244
four-year process, we can

2651
02:08:18,244 --> 02:08:20,244
report back significant

2652
02:08:20,245 --> 02:08:22,914
progress in all areas of the

2653
02:08:22,914 --> 02:08:27,114
cvr p and not a more narrow

2654
02:08:27,585 --> 02:08:28,219
focused like. Carrie and I

2655
02:08:28,219 --> 02:08:31,219
push back on the initial

2656
02:08:31,689 --> 02:08:32,424
budget from a lefty that did

2657
02:08:32,424 --> 02:08:34,225
not include the money for the

2658
02:08:34,225 --> 02:08:37,225
youth programs. And we got 20

2659
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:38,831
grand included there for those

2660
02:08:38,831 --> 02:08:41,231
programs. And that obviously

2661
02:08:41,599 --> 02:08:42,600
makes a huge difference to

2662
02:08:42,600 --> 02:08:44,369
them. But like a drop in the

2663
02:08:44,369 --> 02:08:45,570
bucket when it comes to

2664
02:08:45,570 --> 02:08:46,738
overtime. So I think that

2665
02:08:46,738 --> 02:08:47,539
there's a way that we do both

2666
02:08:47,539 --> 02:08:50,341
at the same time and have

2667
02:08:50,341 --> 02:08:52,741
people feel these initiatives

2668
02:08:53,912 --> 02:08:54,646
in their lives and not just,

2669
02:08:54,646 --> 02:08:55,448
you know, another measure that

2670
02:08:55,448 --> 02:08:56,514
they're paying taxes on, that

2671
02:08:56,514 --> 02:08:57,149
they don't really feel the

2672
02:08:57,149 --> 02:08:58,684
impact not getting their

2673
02:08:58,684 --> 02:09:02,284
response times I think we can

2674
02:09:04,756 --> 02:09:06,910
do both. So I would love to

2675
02:09:06,910 --> 02:09:07,492
hear your guys this opinion on

2676
02:09:07,492 --> 02:09:08,226
that as well as any other

2677
02:09:08,226 --> 02:09:08,960
recommendations you would like

2678
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:13,160
to see made to city council as

2679
02:09:13,198 --> 02:09:16,198
well. I would like to

2680
02:09:21,106 --> 02:09:22,600
recommend and I can think of a

2681
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:25,606
more polished way to say this.

2682
02:09:26,211 --> 02:09:26,811
But I'm taking around the idea

2683
02:09:26,811 --> 02:09:28,811
Transparency around the

2684
02:09:32,417 --> 02:09:35,417
budget. Using the example that

2685
02:09:38,220 --> 02:09:38,958
we experience if around

2686
02:09:38,958 --> 02:09:40,593
vehicle, is it 3 million

2687
02:09:40,593 --> 02:09:43,593
dollars in overtime that was

2688
02:09:44,129 --> 02:09:45,290
allocated. That was brand new

2689
02:09:45,290 --> 02:09:46,865
to us. Like we had no idea

2690
02:09:46,865 --> 02:09:47,832
until they just kind of slip.

2691
02:09:47,832 --> 02:09:52,320
Didn't. And so I think that we

2692
02:09:52,772 --> 02:09:54,405
should. Certainly lift that

2693
02:09:54,405 --> 02:09:56,805
the Joint Commission meeting.

2694
02:10:02,914 --> 02:10:03,882
To the city. To promote more

2695
02:10:03,882 --> 02:10:05,750
trust live in Oakland and use

2696
02:10:05,750 --> 02:10:09,350
that as an example. So just

2697
02:10:09,754 --> 02:10:10,488
transparency around budgeting,

2698
02:10:10,488 --> 02:10:13,992
making sure that, you know, if

2699
02:10:13,992 --> 02:10:15,827
that if this is a need. And

2700
02:10:15,827 --> 02:10:16,561
this is a way if the presented

2701
02:10:16,561 --> 02:10:19,264
to like it's an absolute need,

2702
02:10:19,264 --> 02:10:19,998
the city decided to take. But

2703
02:10:19,998 --> 02:10:23,401
that's a need that needs to be

2704
02:10:23,401 --> 02:10:25,304
communicated us ahead of time

2705
02:10:25,304 --> 02:10:28,304
because we had several public

2706
02:10:29,908 --> 02:10:32,760
meetings about the budget. The

2707
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:33,845
plan and the spending plan

2708
02:10:33,845 --> 02:10:34,846
that was never discuss to the

2709
02:10:34,846 --> 02:10:35,680
So I'd like to make a

2710
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:38,680
recommendation for us to for

2711
02:10:39,217 --> 02:10:40,552
the City Council and city

2712
02:10:40,552 --> 02:10:41,286
Oakland to, you know, make

2713
02:10:41,286 --> 02:10:41,953
sure that there's transparency

2714
02:10:41,953 --> 02:10:45,553
ahead of time. It comes to

2715
02:10:53,264 --> 02:10:53,932
budgets. I would with that.

2716
02:10:53,932 --> 02:10:56,434
You can think about it just

2717
02:10:56,434 --> 02:10:57,135
didn't work, too. You need

2718
02:10:57,135 --> 02:10:57,769
some time. That was just the

2719
02:10:57,769 --> 02:11:00,769
first thing that kind of

2720
02:11:08,714 --> 02:11:09,415
popped for me. I agree that we

2721
02:11:09,415 --> 02:11:10,682
start off with that part from

2722
02:11:10,682 --> 02:11:13,820
the transparency. Of the

2723
02:11:18,757 --> 02:11:19,457
budget. But when we say over

2724
02:11:19,457 --> 02:11:22,994
time and things like that, it

2725
02:11:22,994 --> 02:11:23,728
seems accusatory. We don't

2726
02:11:23,728 --> 02:11:27,132
want to be accusatory. Want to

2727
02:11:27,132 --> 02:11:27,866
say. We noticed some things

2728
02:11:27,866 --> 02:11:31,536
have been put on the budget at

2729
02:11:31,536 --> 02:11:33,638
the end. And we didn't get a

2730
02:11:33,638 --> 02:11:34,339
chance respond to a

2731
02:11:34,339 --> 02:11:35,730
politically because we didn't

2732
02:11:35,730 --> 02:11:36,741
know about to give it to us at

2733
02:11:36,741 --> 02:11:40,110
the last minute. So can you be

2734
02:11:40,110 --> 02:11:43,110
more transparent? We know that

2735
02:11:43,748 --> 02:11:45,650
you're we know that. You can

2736
02:11:45,650 --> 02:11:46,651
give us this. Tell us that

2737
02:11:46,651 --> 02:11:47,385
with 3 million over time. I've

2738
02:11:47,385 --> 02:11:49,321
arguing that what we're saying

2739
02:11:49,321 --> 02:11:52,921
is we didn't know. You know,

2740
02:11:54,894 --> 02:11:57,894
and sometimes. Dealing in that

2741
02:11:59,130 --> 02:12:01,366
area. I found out that I had

2742
02:12:01,366 --> 02:12:04,200
to learn how to even from

2743
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:06,838
y'all, how Kapur modeling with

2744
02:12:06,838 --> 02:12:09,730
too little bit so that we

2745
02:12:09,730 --> 02:12:10,775
don't be accusatory. You more

2746
02:12:10,775 --> 02:12:14,375
like a this would happen. And

2747
02:12:14,612 --> 02:12:18,212
then will it? The public do

2748
02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:19,651
yet? Y'all didn't That's how I

2749
02:12:19,651 --> 02:12:22,954
work that because I'm on your

2750
02:12:22,954 --> 02:12:24,550
side about that. Don't tell me

2751
02:12:24,550 --> 02:12:24,756
anything at the last minute.

2752
02:12:24,756 --> 02:12:25,990
Then I have to look at it and

2753
02:12:25,990 --> 02:12:28,626
not be upset. That's just the

2754
02:12:28,626 --> 02:12:29,327
one thing I want it. Agree

2755
02:12:29,327 --> 02:12:30,829
with you on Want to make sure

2756
02:12:30,829 --> 02:12:32,263
we work that right because it

2757
02:12:32,263 --> 02:12:34,699
is going to the full board,

2758
02:12:34,699 --> 02:12:36,802
you know, and we MAY want

2759
02:12:36,802 --> 02:12:38,704
something we really want. And

2760
02:12:38,704 --> 02:12:39,571
we don't want to be that

2761
02:12:39,571 --> 02:12:42,571
because I've been in that

2762
02:12:42,941 --> 02:12:43,174
share with That guy's just a

2763
02:12:43,174 --> 02:12:43,345
j#

2764
02:12:43,345 --> 02:12:43,521
#

2765
02:12:43,521 --> 02:12:45,310
#

2766
02:12:45,310 --> 02:12:45,977
. You know, and I don't

2767
02:12:45,977 --> 02:12:46,644
want you all the fallen to

2768
02:12:46,644 --> 02:12:47,645
that point. I don't mind to

2769
02:12:47,645 --> 02:12:50,548
that. I pass on to say what I

2770
02:12:50,548 --> 02:12:53,151
want to say. But I don't want

2771
02:12:53,151 --> 02:12:53,818
fall in that because you

2772
02:12:53,818 --> 02:12:56,521
you'll be doing this work a

2773
02:12:56,521 --> 02:12:59,657
lot longer than I will. And so

2774
02:12:59,657 --> 02:13:01,693
make sure you win on that. And

2775
02:13:01,693 --> 02:13:04,620
then my thing I want to add on

2776
02:13:04,620 --> 02:13:05,930
is I'm tired of the excuses

2777
02:13:05,930 --> 02:13:07,298
and see this a yard correct my

2778
02:13:07,298 --> 02:13:09,167
language. I'm tired excuses

2779
02:13:09,167 --> 02:13:09,901
about the numbers of police

2780
02:13:09,901 --> 02:13:13,501
officers. I'm just I'm I'm fed

2781
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:15,307
up. I'm ready to lead a board

2782
02:13:15,307 --> 02:13:18,710
and go get some signs of

2783
02:13:18,710 --> 02:13:19,344
started complaining every day.

2784
02:13:19,344 --> 02:13:21,744
Because this isn't making

2785
02:13:22,814 --> 02:13:27,140
sense to me. Even if you only

2786
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:29,154
last for. Ask you what I know,

2787
02:13:29,154 --> 02:13:29,888
all police officers don't

2788
02:13:29,888 --> 02:13:33,258
retire to the last week of the

2789
02:13:33,258 --> 02:13:33,925
year. So they can get the

2790
02:13:33,925 --> 02:13:36,561
highest numbers so they can

2791
02:13:36,561 --> 02:13:37,629
all the time was much money

2792
02:13:37,629 --> 02:13:39,998
and then they still haven't

2793
02:13:39,998 --> 02:13:40,732
asked members questions. Asked

2794
02:13:40,732 --> 02:13:42,567
how many people are in classic

2795
02:13:42,567 --> 02:13:43,802
and how many people, how many

2796
02:13:43,802 --> 02:13:45,804
people be have a classic

2797
02:13:45,804 --> 02:13:47,705
purrs. That means guys, that 3

2798
02:13:47,705 --> 02:13:50,705
of 50 kept asking it because

2799
02:13:51,543 --> 02:13:52,277
they're going to retire. If

2800
02:13:52,277 --> 02:13:54,279
they were, reached the highest

2801
02:13:54,279 --> 02:13:54,946
ranking highest thing and

2802
02:13:54,946 --> 02:13:55,613
they're like, hey, why most

2803
02:13:55,613 --> 02:13:58,183
sticking around? I can make

2804
02:13:58,183 --> 02:13:58,850
more money sitting at home.

2805
02:13:58,850 --> 02:14:02,200
Retire and not have a heart

2806
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:02,721
attack on the job. So now

2807
02:14:02,721 --> 02:14:05,690
we're talking about guys and

2808
02:14:05,690 --> 02:14:09,290
even sooner or later. So you

2809
02:14:09,794 --> 02:14:11,496
talk about the 17 now they say

2810
02:14:11,496 --> 02:14:12,230
a MARCH bill. Have they are 43

2811
02:14:12,230 --> 02:14:15,467
but guard last 3 and only been

2812
02:14:15,467 --> 02:14:17,669
in there for a week. So we

2813
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:21,269
have to start, you know, tell

2814
02:14:21,473 --> 02:14:22,173
them to know. Can we get some

2815
02:14:22,173 --> 02:14:22,740
more police officers? I'm not

2816
02:14:22,740 --> 02:14:25,140
saying police make a

2817
02:14:26,778 --> 02:14:29,778
difference, but once again far

2818
02:14:30,181 --> 02:14:32,581
to Marseilles, 1800 Of the

2819
02:14:34,385 --> 02:14:36,121
cities our size 15 to 1200

2820
02:14:36,121 --> 02:14:37,455
police officers. When I'm

2821
02:14:37,455 --> 02:14:40,455
surprised, can I be real

2822
02:14:40,792 --> 02:14:41,459
surprised they let us off the

2823
02:14:41,459 --> 02:14:44,459
court. I'm surprised let us

2824
02:14:46,970 --> 02:14:47,933
off. I'm shocked. I don't

2825
02:14:47,933 --> 02:14:48,566
think we never going to get

2826
02:14:48,566 --> 02:14:49,701
off until we got to 1200

2827
02:14:49,701 --> 02:14:52,701
officers like since It when

2828
02:14:54,539 --> 02:14:55,306
they finally got off. But

2829
02:14:55,306 --> 02:14:55,974
remember since Natty, we know

2830
02:14:55,974 --> 02:14:56,674
after us and off the floors

2831
02:14:56,674 --> 02:14:57,542
because they say we don't put

2832
02:14:57,542 --> 02:14:58,143
the 1200 offices here. And

2833
02:14:58,143 --> 02:15:01,446
then when I do all the

2834
02:15:01,446 --> 02:15:02,147
community stuff. Now offer

2835
02:15:02,147 --> 02:15:04,282
off, but we still don't have

2836
02:15:04,282 --> 02:15:06,682
what. The police officers,

2837
02:15:07,752 --> 02:15:08,486
which police officers, more

2838
02:15:08,486 --> 02:15:10,886
police officer prevent burnout

2839
02:15:12,924 --> 02:15:14,993
stress. And working too long.

2840
02:15:14,993 --> 02:15:17,228
I hear you saying you'd like

2841
02:15:17,228 --> 02:15:19,300
to emphasize MAY be in the

2842
02:15:19,300 --> 02:15:19,964
valuation of successful police

2843
02:15:19,964 --> 02:15:22,364
departments to implement some

2844
02:15:23,868 --> 02:15:25,203
effective strategies. Good

2845
02:15:25,203 --> 02:15:28,574
words to bring more people in.

2846
02:15:28,574 --> 02:15:32,174
Thank you to bring more people

2847
02:15:32,410 --> 02:15:33,845
I think that's a great point.

2848
02:15:33,845 --> 02:15:34,512
And yeah, I agree that a study

2849
02:15:34,512 --> 02:15:37,449
or an evaluation to do that

2850
02:15:37,449 --> 02:15:38,149
would be important, especially

2851
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:40,318
cents in our discussion with

2852
02:15:40,318 --> 02:15:43,318
the seated esco. We didn't

2853
02:15:44,220 --> 02:15:44,656
really get a specific answer

2854
02:15:44,656 --> 02:15:45,290
around Oakland, specific

2855
02:15:45,290 --> 02:15:46,758
recruiting plants. Like I

2856
02:15:46,758 --> 02:15:48,626
think Oakland residents have a

2857
02:15:48,626 --> 02:15:49,328
unique relationship with

2858
02:15:49,328 --> 02:15:50,929
police and granted every city

2859
02:15:50,929 --> 02:15:53,929
has a unique relationship with

2860
02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:56,634
with its community. But given

2861
02:15:56,634 --> 02:15:57,302
the reputation of federal

2862
02:15:57,302 --> 02:15:59,337
oversight, I do think that

2863
02:15:59,337 --> 02:16:00,638
there needs to be a specific

2864
02:16:00,638 --> 02:16:02,638
strategy around recruiting

2865
02:16:06,578 --> 02:16:08,578
Oakland residents. Recruiting

2866
02:16:09,247 --> 02:16:11,647
retaining perhaps even prison

2867
02:16:11,784 --> 02:16:14,184
team. Transparency along with

2868
02:16:16,287 --> 02:16:17,210
it. Pastor Dixon was saying

2869
02:16:17,210 --> 02:16:20,458
like how many people are often

2870
02:16:20,458 --> 02:16:23,458
industrial. On injury or admin

2871
02:16:24,796 --> 02:16:25,997
leave. We don't to know for

2872
02:16:25,997 --> 02:16:28,967
what we just need to know how

2873
02:16:28,967 --> 02:16:29,667
many active officers we have.

2874
02:16:29,667 --> 02:16:31,636
Yeah, because those people on

2875
02:16:31,636 --> 02:16:34,636
leave for still being counted.

2876
02:16:40,512 --> 02:16:43,512
As active officer. You wanted

2877
02:16:45,850 --> 02:16:46,551
to tax me that she a u n. Here

2878
02:16:46,551 --> 02:16:47,652
you go, everybody. I'm here.

2879
02:16:47,652 --> 02:16:49,821
Thank you so much for all the

2880
02:16:49,821 --> 02:16:50,522
good idea so far and I'm sorry

2881
02:16:50,522 --> 02:16:51,189
chair once a MISS The middle

2882
02:16:51,189 --> 02:16:53,124
bit of the beginning. When

2883
02:16:53,124 --> 02:16:55,524
you're speaking about some

2884
02:16:56,795 --> 02:16:57,496
ideas for the recommendations,

2885
02:16:57,496 --> 02:16:58,730
process. Can you repeat real

2886
02:16:58,730 --> 02:17:00,331
quick and then they want to

2887
02:17:00,331 --> 02:17:03,931
chime in? Yeah, I was talking

2888
02:17:04,602 --> 02:17:05,704
about how it would be. Helpful

2889
02:17:05,704 --> 02:17:06,371
if we could recommend to city

2890
02:17:06,371 --> 02:17:09,908
council that in the next to

2891
02:17:09,908 --> 02:17:10,608
your budgeting cycle that they

2892
02:17:10,608 --> 02:17:13,411
prioritize some of the lower

2893
02:17:13,411 --> 02:17:14,546
budget. High-impact projects

2894
02:17:14,546 --> 02:17:15,547
that community members will

2895
02:17:15,547 --> 02:17:16,849
really feel in their

2896
02:17:16,849 --> 02:17:17,549
day-to-day lives and in the

2897
02:17:17,549 --> 02:17:20,549
quality of the services that

2898
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:23,419
they're being provided yeah,

2899
02:17:23,755 --> 02:17:25,390
that was a general gist. And

2900
02:17:25,390 --> 02:17:27,790
then what is recommendation?

2901
02:17:32,197 --> 02:17:32,897
Yeah, just won it name that

2902
02:17:32,897 --> 02:17:33,598
measure it. And yes, you see

2903
02:17:33,598 --> 02:17:35,998
when we made recommendations

2904
02:17:36,901 --> 02:17:37,969
to city council, it was a

2905
02:17:37,969 --> 02:17:38,670
small number of

2906
02:17:38,670 --> 02:17:40,670
recommendations. And usually

2907
02:17:44,509 --> 02:17:45,743
it was very for lack of a

2908
02:17:45,743 --> 02:17:48,379
better word. We rode out an

2909
02:17:48,379 --> 02:17:50,779
ordinance. We prepared surge

2910
02:17:51,450 --> 02:17:54,319
and so I would just encourage

2911
02:17:54,319 --> 02:17:55,220
us to choose one, maybe

2912
02:17:55,220 --> 02:17:55,987
recommendations that we would

2913
02:17:55,987 --> 02:17:56,588
like to centered this

2914
02:17:56,588 --> 02:17:58,588
particular city Council

2915
02:18:00,158 --> 02:18:03,158
meeting. And bright it will

2916
02:18:04,262 --> 02:18:04,896
propose a So that we can

2917
02:18:04,896 --> 02:18:07,980
answer questions and City

2918
02:18:07,980 --> 02:18:09,801
Council of the school suggest

2919
02:18:09,801 --> 02:18:11,202
and they could very concrete.

2920
02:18:11,202 --> 02:18:12,337
I think if we came to them

2921
02:18:12,337 --> 02:18:13,370
with 10 different ideas for

2922
02:18:13,370 --> 02:18:15,507
things they would like to get

2923
02:18:15,507 --> 02:18:17,208
done going to night. That's

2924
02:18:17,208 --> 02:18:18,343
great. We have lots of ideas

2925
02:18:18,343 --> 02:18:19,177
to and I don't know that any

2926
02:18:19,177 --> 02:18:23,377
of them are going to get done.

2927
02:18:26,385 --> 02:18:27,118
So this is our first

2928
02:18:27,118 --> 02:18:27,786
opportunity of many great that

2929
02:18:27,786 --> 02:18:30,189
the actual measure does not

2930
02:18:30,189 --> 02:18:30,990
say that. We have to wait for

2931
02:18:30,990 --> 02:18:31,589
a city council meeting to make

2932
02:18:31,589 --> 02:18:33,589
recommendations to city

2933
02:18:36,694 --> 02:18:39,694
Council. If we just. Organized

2934
02:18:39,898 --> 02:18:43,301
around one key piece. Then we

2935
02:18:43,301 --> 02:18:43,968
can continue to build over Now

2936
02:18:43,968 --> 02:18:44,702
which you continue to have

2937
02:18:44,702 --> 02:18:47,102
more recommendations over time

2938
02:18:49,507 --> 02:18:50,208
and what I ate a hearing chair

2939
02:18:50,208 --> 02:18:50,942
or want U.S. Objections that

2940
02:18:50,942 --> 02:18:52,878
it's a little bit of a catch.

2941
02:18:52,878 --> 02:18:55,547
All rated sake. Okay. We want

2942
02:18:55,547 --> 02:18:56,214
to increase city council

2943
02:18:56,214 --> 02:18:56,881
paradise and then it budget

2944
02:18:56,881 --> 02:18:58,950
cycle. The kinds of things

2945
02:18:58,950 --> 02:19:00,251
that community and we want it.

2946
02:19:00,251 --> 02:19:02,860
I think that could work as a

2947
02:19:02,860 --> 02:19:02,787
recommendation because it's a

2948
02:19:02,787 --> 02:19:03,488
little bit of umbrella

2949
02:19:03,488 --> 02:19:05,290
recommendation. We just need

2950
02:19:05,290 --> 02:19:06,570
to write out specifically the

2951
02:19:06,570 --> 02:19:09,570
pieces and what's important to

2952
02:19:15,501 --> 02:19:17,436
me, it is. The needs ideas.

2953
02:19:17,436 --> 02:19:18,870
The committee members had that

2954
02:19:18,870 --> 02:19:19,571
we could not including the

2955
02:19:19,571 --> 02:19:20,305
community violence reduction

2956
02:19:20,305 --> 02:19:20,972
plan because the measure space

2957
02:19:20,972 --> 02:19:22,874
face exactly what the plan

2958
02:19:22,874 --> 02:19:23,508
needs to cover. And those

2959
02:19:23,508 --> 02:19:26,508
ideas were outside of the

2960
02:19:29,314 --> 02:19:31,616
scope of the plan. Happy to

2961
02:19:31,616 --> 02:19:33,718
support in any way win 2

2962
02:19:33,718 --> 02:19:34,419
charity in in reviewing the

2963
02:19:34,419 --> 02:19:38,619
rate And so I want to share,

2964
02:19:38,857 --> 02:19:39,557
thank you. I really appreciate

2965
02:19:39,557 --> 02:19:41,557
your institutional knowledge

2966
02:19:49,535 --> 02:19:50,769
guidance on this thank you.

2967
02:19:50,769 --> 02:19:53,400
And yes, it is definitely

2968
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:53,639
important that we condensed

2969
02:19:53,639 --> 02:19:55,639
very actionable straight

2970
02:19:56,741 --> 02:19:57,408
forward recommendations. I

2971
02:19:57,408 --> 02:19:59,644
think there's obviously one

2972
02:19:59,644 --> 02:20:02,181
around budget. And it sounds

2973
02:20:02,181 --> 02:20:02,814
like there's one about

2974
02:20:02,814 --> 02:20:04,814
recruiting and retention

2975
02:20:08,253 --> 02:20:09,622
within opd. Specifically with

2976
02:20:09,622 --> 02:20:10,388
Oakland residents. I think we

2977
02:20:10,388 --> 02:20:14,588
can given that we are only a

2978
02:20:14,727 --> 02:20:17,695
quarter into the cvr p. We

2979
02:20:17,695 --> 02:20:19,364
obviously don't have a lot of

2980
02:20:19,364 --> 02:20:20,650
data to referred to for the

2981
02:20:20,650 --> 02:20:22,650
specific recommendations, but

2982
02:20:23,368 --> 02:20:24,569
we can incorporate broader

2983
02:20:24,569 --> 02:20:25,504
best practice research. And I

2984
02:20:25,504 --> 02:20:27,338
think it's also kind of a gift

2985
02:20:27,338 --> 02:20:28,720
in this timeline of like we

2986
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:30,576
don't have to have it all back

2987
02:20:30,576 --> 02:20:32,877
to put like it. I mean, it'll

2988
02:20:32,877 --> 02:20:33,411
be backed up by its face.

2989
02:20:33,411 --> 02:20:34,512
Solidity and these

2990
02:20:34,512 --> 02:20:36,912
recommendations to make sure

2991
02:20:37,982 --> 02:20:38,650
that and stays on their radar.

2992
02:20:38,650 --> 02:20:42,250
So it sounds to me and

2993
02:20:42,687 --> 02:20:43,389
obviously we will draft and

2994
02:20:43,389 --> 02:20:44,957
refined this and send it out

2995
02:20:44,957 --> 02:20:46,491
to all of you for asynchronous

2996
02:20:46,491 --> 02:20:48,827
review so that nothing about

2997
02:20:48,827 --> 02:20:51,227
us is being recommended

2998
02:20:53,980 --> 02:20:53,698
without And we've got the

2999
02:20:53,698 --> 02:20:54,866
transparency around the

3000
02:20:54,866 --> 02:20:57,866
budget. I think that that.

3001
02:20:59,637 --> 02:21:00,171
Lynx in with. Prioritizing

3002
02:21:00,171 --> 02:21:02,171
those small budget.

3003
02:21:02,907 --> 02:21:03,541
High-impact projects likes

3004
02:21:03,541 --> 02:21:04,242
this wasn't a transparent

3005
02:21:04,242 --> 02:21:05,760
process. And then opportunity

3006
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,446
kind of got yanked back at the

3007
02:21:08,446 --> 02:21:11,446
last minute. For all of

3008
02:21:11,916 --> 02:21:14,850
things. So got the

3009
02:21:14,850 --> 02:21:16,485
transparency and budget and

3010
02:21:18,256 --> 02:21:19,491
small budget projects.

3011
02:21:19,491 --> 02:21:20,659
Secondly, we've got looking at

3012
02:21:20,659 --> 02:21:23,590
opd recruitment and retention

3013
02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:26,640
and really pushing on more

3014
02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:26,798
innovative strategies. I

3015
02:21:26,798 --> 02:21:28,267
understand they have look

3016
02:21:28,267 --> 02:21:29,200
statewide nationwide, et

3017
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:31,600
cetera. Everybody has a

3018
02:21:32,203 --> 02:21:33,671
shortage of cops. One of the

3019
02:21:33,671 --> 02:21:34,940
few professions that are

3020
02:21:34,940 --> 02:21:37,940
hiring across the board. And

3021
02:21:41,746 --> 02:21:42,347
so. I do think that. Even with

3022
02:21:42,347 --> 02:21:43,682
those challenges, it's

3023
02:21:43,682 --> 02:21:44,849
important to lift up the

3024
02:21:44,849 --> 02:21:45,517
importance can police force

3025
02:21:45,517 --> 02:21:47,917
looking like the community

3026
02:21:53,525 --> 02:21:55,460
that it polices? And then? And

3027
02:21:55,460 --> 02:21:57,429
I agree that we can also

3028
02:21:57,429 --> 02:21:58,696
uplift those needs that did

3029
02:21:58,696 --> 02:22:00,465
not make it into the sea drp

3030
02:22:00,465 --> 02:22:01,666
and encourage them to

3031
02:22:01,666 --> 02:22:04,690
prioritize funding for that in

3032
02:22:04,690 --> 02:22:05,671
the next two-year budget cycle

3033
02:22:05,671 --> 02:22:08,671
to get 3 areas. But fairly

3034
02:22:09,441 --> 02:22:11,441
distinct. Recommendations so

3035
02:22:13,878 --> 02:22:14,647
far. Every single to some

3036
02:22:14,647 --> 02:22:18,247
wordsmith thing. So as to not

3037
02:22:22,187 --> 02:22:23,421
sound accusatory. The arcing.

3038
02:22:23,421 --> 02:22:25,191
It is the nature of oversight

3039
02:22:25,191 --> 02:22:25,723
that it's somewhat

3040
02:22:25,723 --> 02:22:27,723
confrontational for

3041
02:22:29,727 --> 02:22:31,397
adversarial, I guess. How do

3042
02:22:31,397 --> 02:22:34,397
we feel about those 3 areas

3043
02:22:36,635 --> 02:22:37,235
broadly? Chair? I was I was

3044
02:22:37,235 --> 02:22:39,635
just sitting over here

3045
02:22:43,242 --> 02:22:43,908
thinking. And we MAY have to.

3046
02:22:43,908 --> 02:22:46,908
Right because we don't have

3047
02:22:48,513 --> 02:22:49,214
enough time to it. Discuss it.

3048
02:22:49,214 --> 02:22:50,983
And then send email saying we

3049
02:22:50,983 --> 02:22:53,852
agree to those things, but we

3050
02:22:53,852 --> 02:22:56,421
should have 5 things and then

3051
02:22:56,421 --> 02:22:58,223
we can narrow down to 2 or 3,

3052
02:22:58,223 --> 02:23:01,223
but there should be 5 things

3053
02:23:03,628 --> 02:23:05,300
that we as a group and that's

3054
02:23:05,300 --> 02:23:06,632
just how I work things. 5

3055
02:23:06,632 --> 02:23:09,834
things we should be able to

3056
02:23:09,834 --> 02:23:13,434
agree We agree number one, our

3057
02:23:14,139 --> 02:23:15,840
college system areas friend.

3058
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:16,474
That we agree on is the budget

3059
02:23:16,474 --> 02:23:17,143
transparency. So we know

3060
02:23:17,143 --> 02:23:20,743
that's going to be in there

3061
02:23:22,147 --> 02:23:24,282
right? Our former chair said

3062
02:23:24,282 --> 02:23:27,882
we should just have 2 items. I

3063
02:23:28,586 --> 02:23:32,186
can understand that I think we

3064
02:23:33,892 --> 02:23:34,592
could push 3 and not be. We

3065
02:23:34,592 --> 02:23:35,660
got all these ideas. And, you

3066
02:23:35,660 --> 02:23:38,531
we give you 3 and so down on

3067
02:23:38,531 --> 02:23:41,266
it. So maybe if everybody send

3068
02:23:41,266 --> 02:23:42,134
in one and you know, you do

3069
02:23:42,134 --> 02:23:45,134
your bright work with you,

3070
02:23:46,571 --> 02:23:48,473
Stephen. We come down to what

3071
02:23:48,473 --> 02:23:49,841
we Tuesday and then we can all

3072
02:23:49,841 --> 02:23:50,508
agree and stay on them. We all

3073
02:23:50,508 --> 02:23:52,677
stand flat footed. This is

3074
02:23:52,677 --> 02:23:55,980
what we. We think it should

3075
02:23:55,980 --> 02:23:56,681
be. But we know number one.

3076
02:23:56,681 --> 02:23:59,651
And I won't let that goes to

3077
02:23:59,651 --> 02:24:00,452
transparency of the budget. I

3078
02:24:00,452 --> 02:24:03,354
want I want to know every dime

3079
02:24:03,354 --> 02:24:04,220
isn't every nickel is so that

3080
02:24:04,220 --> 02:24:06,558
we can do what's right. And

3081
02:24:06,558 --> 02:24:07,225
that's all I'm saying. If I if

3082
02:24:07,225 --> 02:24:09,894
I made myself clear enough,

3083
02:24:09,894 --> 02:24:12,894
I'm not trying to have 10

3084
02:24:14,432 --> 02:24:15,567
things. I-15 things that even.

3085
02:24:15,567 --> 02:24:16,267
5 sophisticated But we can get

3086
02:24:16,267 --> 02:24:19,300
3 basic things we can do the

3087
02:24:19,300 --> 02:24:21,239
rest of the work where. Right

3088
02:24:21,239 --> 02:24:21,940
and keeps him stuff from

3089
02:24:21,940 --> 02:24:25,540
because the first time we say

3090
02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:26,778
no. Everybody's come time

3091
02:24:26,778 --> 02:24:30,378
eating, like will y you no,

3092
02:24:31,316 --> 02:24:33,218
because you want to with.

3093
02:24:33,218 --> 02:24:35,321
Yeah, I so. If I want to make

3094
02:24:35,321 --> 02:24:36,255
sure that all of those

3095
02:24:36,255 --> 02:24:36,956
elements are in there and in

3096
02:24:36,956 --> 02:24:38,956
drafting the recommendations

3097
02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:40,725
for you all to review. And, of

3098
02:24:40,725 --> 02:24:41,926
course, please send any other

3099
02:24:41,926 --> 02:24:44,596
information that like pops up

3100
02:24:44,596 --> 02:24:48,196
in your head, feel like need

3101
02:24:48,366 --> 02:24:50,635
this let me know, I think

3102
02:24:50,635 --> 02:24:51,436
these are all fairly related.

3103
02:24:51,436 --> 02:24:52,170
Like, for example, the

3104
02:24:52,170 --> 02:24:53,471
transparency around the budget

3105
02:24:53,471 --> 02:24:54,472
is directly related to the

3106
02:24:54,472 --> 02:24:56,608
ability to do those small

3107
02:24:56,608 --> 02:24:58,608
budget. High-impact projects

3108
02:24:59,744 --> 02:25:00,445
that can be folded into one. I

3109
02:25:00,445 --> 02:25:03,882
think we can keep it to 2 or

3110
02:25:03,882 --> 02:25:04,582
3. While incorporating

3111
02:25:04,582 --> 02:25:06,982
elements of everything that's

3112
02:25:10,622 --> 02:25:13,220
been discussed. Thank Make

3113
02:25:13,158 --> 02:25:15,158
couple more recommendations.

3114
02:25:16,594 --> 02:25:20,310
So once we agree on those 2 or

3115
02:25:20,310 --> 02:25:21,320
I think it's ok to a child's

3116
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:22,500
to representatives from c Pap

3117
02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:24,869
and the police commission to

3118
02:25:24,869 --> 02:25:25,737
see if any of them would like

3119
02:25:25,737 --> 02:25:26,304
to support our recommendations

3120
02:25:26,304 --> 02:25:27,500
and the feel-like to

3121
02:25:27,500 --> 02:25:29,405
supporting of their creations

3122
02:25:30,509 --> 02:25:34,709
as well. This way we can show

3123
02:25:34,946 --> 02:25:36,848
up to city Council. You know,

3124
02:25:36,848 --> 02:25:38,160
line and perhaps that some the

3125
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:39,317
commissions to Cape, we don't

3126
02:25:39,317 --> 02:25:40,185
agree and you'll have separate

3127
02:25:40,185 --> 02:25:41,319
commendations, of course, is

3128
02:25:41,319 --> 02:25:42,530
we haven't had the separate

3129
02:25:42,530 --> 02:25:43,955
purposes, there's some overlap

3130
02:25:43,955 --> 02:25:46,955
space with the commute that.

3131
02:25:49,928 --> 02:25:50,628
And I like idea Agreeing right

3132
02:25:50,628 --> 02:25:51,863
now on set of recommendations

3133
02:25:51,863 --> 02:25:54,863
and then maybe coming down.

3134
02:25:59,204 --> 02:26:02,204
Witnesses say. Okay, yeah, I

3135
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:03,342
like the idea of conferring

3136
02:26:03,342 --> 02:26:06,342
with the other commission so

3137
02:26:06,611 --> 02:26:10,211
we can make sure. Were in

3138
02:26:10,515 --> 02:26:12,717
alignment can offer support.

3139
02:26:12,717 --> 02:26:13,685
Also at that, we should all be

3140
02:26:13,685 --> 02:26:16,685
inviting people who would be

3141
02:26:17,255 --> 02:26:17,756
in support and willing to give

3142
02:26:17,756 --> 02:26:18,356
public comment on

3143
02:26:18,356 --> 02:26:19,524
recommendations. Every

3144
02:26:19,524 --> 02:26:21,924
measuring and coalition to

3145
02:26:22,193 --> 02:26:22,761
kind of save the date. And

3146
02:26:22,761 --> 02:26:25,161
obviously will be in

3147
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:26,564
communication with them. To,

3148
02:26:26,564 --> 02:26:27,665
you know, invite them to speak

3149
02:26:27,665 --> 02:26:28,366
in support of our

3150
02:26:28,366 --> 02:26:30,366
recommendations. Should they

3151
02:26:30,935 --> 02:26:34,535
feel inclined to do so? Okay.

3152
02:26:35,540 --> 02:26:36,241
So just to reiterate back.

3153
02:26:36,241 --> 02:26:38,641
We're looking at transparency

3154
02:26:39,911 --> 02:26:40,779
around the budget.

3155
02:26:40,779 --> 02:26:42,779
Prioritizing small budget,

3156
02:26:45,950 --> 02:26:47,950
high-impact projects. Looking

3157
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:48,654
opd recruitment and retention

3158
02:26:48,654 --> 02:26:49,654
specifically around in

3159
02:26:49,654 --> 02:26:50,288
Oakland, specific recruitment

3160
02:26:50,288 --> 02:26:52,257
strategy. I think there's

3161
02:26:52,257 --> 02:26:52,958
probably a lot of the best

3162
02:26:52,958 --> 02:26:55,958
practice research that we can

3163
02:26:57,562 --> 02:27:00,999
pull up around that as well.

3164
02:27:00,999 --> 02:27:01,733
Uplifting the needs of. The

3165
02:27:01,733 --> 02:27:05,333
community that did not make it

3166
02:27:09,174 --> 02:27:09,841
into the year. P. The cvr p.

3167
02:27:09,841 --> 02:27:10,642
Those the needs that didn't

3168
02:27:10,642 --> 02:27:13,642
make it in like prevention.

3169
02:27:15,713 --> 02:27:16,815
It's not a current priority of

3170
02:27:16,815 --> 02:27:17,549
like Department violence

3171
02:27:17,549 --> 02:27:18,450
prevention. But we heard a lot

3172
02:27:18,450 --> 02:27:20,151
from the community that they

3173
02:27:20,151 --> 02:27:21,850
want to see more preventative

3174
02:27:21,850 --> 02:27:24,850
efforts. And while that's not

3175
02:27:25,230 --> 02:27:25,723
under our 2 section, it's

3176
02:27:25,723 --> 02:27:26,891
something to lift up to incur

3177
02:27:26,891 --> 02:27:29,891
some tough and elsewhere in

3178
02:27:31,496 --> 02:27:32,730
the general fund. I think

3179
02:27:32,730 --> 02:27:35,730
those are very, very strong

3180
02:27:38,971 --> 02:27:41,971
components o p d. Prevention.

3181
02:27:44,776 --> 02:27:48,376
Show us the money. Okay, cool.

3182
02:27:50,648 --> 02:27:51,916
Then I think we can move to

3183
02:27:51,916 --> 02:27:52,784
public comment on this item

3184
02:27:52,784 --> 02:27:56,984
before we move on to our last

3185
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:04,760
informational item. One hand

3186
02:28:05,330 --> 02:28:06,397
raised in missed the boat

3187
02:28:06,397 --> 02:28:09,100
right as a comment as well.

3188
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:10,135
Follow MISTER Boat Rights

3189
02:28:10,135 --> 02:28:13,735
comments will move on to set

3190
02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:20,278
up a lot Johnson. They Ve Ry

3191
02:28:20,278 --> 02:28:23,878
District Did we MISS Item c 5

3192
02:28:25,850 --> 02:28:30,500
c? I didn't hear me. MAY have

3193
02:28:33,158 --> 02:28:35,930
not heard that. I didn't. I

3194
02:28:35,930 --> 02:28:36,261
looked at that one from last

3195
02:28:36,261 --> 02:28:37,195
month in this one. And there's

3196
02:28:37,195 --> 02:28:38,963
been some changes. But the

3197
02:28:38,963 --> 02:28:40,310
total is the same. And I

3198
02:28:40,310 --> 02:28:40,665
thought you were talking about

3199
02:28:40,665 --> 02:28:41,399
cut and money out of the

3200
02:28:41,399 --> 02:28:44,335
budget. I didn't know you were

3201
02:28:44,335 --> 02:28:45,300
just kind of move it around

3202
02:28:45,300 --> 02:28:45,570
different places. Might we

3203
02:28:45,570 --> 02:28:47,570
were some discussions

3204
02:28:47,839 --> 02:28:48,506
sometimes don't know what. Why

3205
02:28:48,506 --> 02:28:50,909
are you talking about that

3206
02:28:50,909 --> 02:28:51,576
subject? Has a budget. Was

3207
02:28:51,576 --> 02:28:54,979
passed in JULY late JUNE a

3208
02:28:54,979 --> 02:28:58,884
year. Why did they come up? I

3209
02:28:58,884 --> 02:29:00,885
don't understand. So Ops Park

3210
02:29:00,885 --> 02:29:01,953
has its own administrative

3211
02:29:01,953 --> 02:29:03,189
budget right? And we have to

3212
02:29:03,189 --> 02:29:06,189
decide how to spend those

3213
02:29:08,359 --> 02:29:11,359
funds. In the budget process.

3214
02:29:11,463 --> 02:29:13,398
They allocated the 3%. They

3215
02:29:13,398 --> 02:29:15,366
did not allocate specifically

3216
02:29:15,366 --> 02:29:16,167
beyond a couple positions like

3217
02:29:16,167 --> 02:29:16,901
partially funding felicia's

3218
02:29:16,901 --> 02:29:18,803
position and funding a program

3219
02:29:18,803 --> 02:29:21,803
analyst and then the audit

3220
02:29:23,708 --> 02:29:24,576
process stuff. Isil accounted

3221
02:29:24,576 --> 02:29:25,276
for in the budget and then

3222
02:29:25,276 --> 02:29:25,977
left over. We have to decide

3223
02:29:25,977 --> 02:29:29,577
what to do with it. That's

3224
02:29:29,681 --> 02:29:33,281
just fine. Tuning yes. But the

3225
02:29:33,885 --> 02:29:35,887
total and that's already set.

3226
02:29:35,887 --> 02:29:36,588
Am I correct in this this

3227
02:29:36,588 --> 02:29:37,822
meeting? You know, we're just

3228
02:29:37,822 --> 02:29:38,523
talking about with the joint

3229
02:29:38,523 --> 02:29:41,523
meeting with the city council

3230
02:29:42,694 --> 02:29:44,530
was with the sheep, have euro

3231
02:29:44,530 --> 02:29:47,932
group and opc and the council

3232
02:29:47,932 --> 02:29:48,734
right? Yes. And that's

3233
02:29:48,734 --> 02:29:51,134
scheduled and canceled twice

3234
02:29:53,370 --> 02:29:54,572
already, which the new date.

3235
02:29:54,572 --> 02:29:55,507
Yeah. The meeting is NOVEMBER.

3236
02:29:55,507 --> 02:29:59,100
30th. We need to finalize our

3237
02:29:59,100 --> 02:29:59,744
recommendations by the 6.

3238
02:29:59,744 --> 02:30:00,812
Okay. That meeting, though, is

3239
02:30:00,812 --> 02:30:03,114
on the 30th of NOVEMBER

3240
02:30:03,114 --> 02:30:05,950
NOVEMBER. I know I'm also

3241
02:30:05,950 --> 02:30:06,684
irritated by that. Police are

3242
02:30:06,684 --> 02:30:11,289
trying to keep it on a date is

3243
02:30:11,289 --> 02:30:12,230
good. Got about it. The date

3244
02:30:12,230 --> 02:30:13,758
has been rescheduled due to

3245
02:30:13,758 --> 02:30:16,158
variety different reasons. So

3246
02:30:16,428 --> 02:30:19,330
it was never act this most

3247
02:30:19,330 --> 02:30:19,998
recent time. I guess it

3248
02:30:19,998 --> 02:30:23,334
council, but it and it was

3249
02:30:23,334 --> 02:30:23,935
rescheduled the first time. It

3250
02:30:23,935 --> 02:30:26,404
is due to a variety of

3251
02:30:26,404 --> 02:30:28,404
different factors. Scheduling

3252
02:30:31,744 --> 02:30:32,610
conflicts. Okay. 3rd, Time's a

3253
02:30:32,610 --> 02:30:33,311
charm. Yes. 3rd time to time

3254
02:30:33,311 --> 02:30:36,311
term because the meeting will

3255
02:30:36,815 --> 02:30:37,816
happen on NOVEMBER. 30th what

3256
02:30:37,816 --> 02:30:39,717
brought this on? I saw it.

3257
02:30:39,717 --> 02:30:40,351
Said, wow, this is really

3258
02:30:40,351 --> 02:30:41,850
unusual to have all these

3259
02:30:41,850 --> 02:30:41,920
groups to do the same thing to

3260
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:45,520
me the same time, what what

3261
02:30:47,292 --> 02:30:47,959
brought it on? Is actually

3262
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:49,394
required to measure. And in

3263
02:30:49,394 --> 02:30:50,128
that there's a joint meeting

3264
02:30:50,128 --> 02:30:53,728
that takes place with of those

3265
02:30:54,650 --> 02:30:54,766
particular organization. Yes,

3266
02:30:54,766 --> 02:30:57,166
specifically the city Council

3267
02:30:57,702 --> 02:30:58,436
in Ops pot going says another

3268
02:30:58,436 --> 02:30:59,104
public safety commissions. And

3269
02:30:59,104 --> 02:31:00,538
we have determined that the

3270
02:31:00,538 --> 02:31:01,573
community policing advisory

3271
02:31:01,573 --> 02:31:03,942
board and the police

3272
02:31:03,942 --> 02:31:05,430
commissioner to other public

3273
02:31:05,430 --> 02:31:07,443
safety. What about City

3274
02:31:08,980 --> 02:31:09,648
Council public Safety

3275
02:31:09,648 --> 02:31:10,381
Committee with the council

3276
02:31:10,381 --> 02:31:11,349
members from the Public Public

3277
02:31:11,349 --> 02:31:11,984
Safety Committee will be on

3278
02:31:11,984 --> 02:31:14,384
the council crisis, which

3279
02:31:17,856 --> 02:31:20,856
folk? Yeah, sure. Thank you.

3280
02:31:22,827 --> 02:31:24,395
Okay. So. Going back a bit.

3281
02:31:24,395 --> 02:31:26,300
I'm sorry. And before we move

3282
02:31:26,300 --> 02:31:26,931
on this rep oppose it. Missed

3283
02:31:26,931 --> 02:31:29,931
month. Well, the ball has

3284
02:31:41,813 --> 02:31:43,581
Thank you. Iran raised.

3285
02:31:43,581 --> 02:31:44,315
This

3286
02:31:44,315 --> 02:31:46,751
all of all. You can begin your

3287
02:31:46,751 --> 02:31:49,751
comments. Ok? You don't have

3288
02:31:59,300 --> 02:31:59,597
up. You know, clock Okay. I'm

3289
02:31:59,597 --> 02:32:01,997
starting it from the

3290
02:32:06,104 --> 02:32:07,739
beginning. Why does you it?

3291
02:32:07,739 --> 02:32:11,939
Wait a minute. Wait a could to

3292
02:32:13,144 --> 02:32:13,845
please have started to But a

3293
02:32:13,845 --> 02:32:17,445
decade to plea. Okay. Just a

3294
02:32:19,684 --> 02:32:20,418
about for some reason. Has a

3295
02:32:20,418 --> 02:32:24,618
mind of its own. So we started

3296
02:32:34,833 --> 02:32:36,701
again.

3297
02:32:36,701 --> 02:32:38,870
And in some reason

3298
02:32:38,870 --> 02:32:40,105
starts at one 57. But and you

3299
02:32:40,105 --> 02:32:43,105
had go comments. Yes, please,

3300
02:32:44,743 --> 02:32:45,477
let me start I need to make a

3301
02:32:45,477 --> 02:32:46,344
correction. Some comments were

3302
02:32:46,344 --> 02:32:49,447
made by the end the nsa. We're

3303
02:32:49,447 --> 02:32:53,470
not out of the nsa. Judge

3304
02:32:53,118 --> 02:32:56,118
Orrick said after 23 years of

3305
02:32:56,955 --> 02:32:57,489
the the city unable to their

3306
02:32:57,489 --> 02:32:59,489
offices comply with

3307
02:32:59,758 --> 02:33:00,425
eliminating racial profiling

3308
02:33:00,425 --> 02:33:02,460
and excessive force. It was

3309
02:33:02,460 --> 02:33:03,762
time for the city to take it

3310
02:33:03,762 --> 02:33:07,362
over and he gave data that

3311
02:33:07,599 --> 02:33:09,434
support it, that there was

3312
02:33:09,434 --> 02:33:10,101
still disproportionately high

3313
02:33:10,101 --> 02:33:12,270
number of African Americans

3314
02:33:12,270 --> 02:33:13,338
who being stopped by the

3315
02:33:13,338 --> 02:33:15,390
police disproportionately high

3316
02:33:15,390 --> 02:33:17,776
number of black police offices

3317
02:33:17,776 --> 02:33:19,811
who will be unfairly

3318
02:33:19,811 --> 02:33:22,211
discipline and unfairly lack

3319
02:33:23,815 --> 02:33:24,716
of promotion. Having said

3320
02:33:24,716 --> 02:33:27,286
that, any reports that it

3321
02:33:27,286 --> 02:33:29,686
should be recommended. Any

3322
02:33:31,456 --> 02:33:33,856
reports related to policing.

3323
02:33:35,627 --> 02:33:36,594
Measure in anything nice to

3324
02:33:36,594 --> 02:33:37,328
have race. Demographics

3325
02:33:37,328 --> 02:33:40,928
included in reports if race is

3326
02:33:43,802 --> 02:33:44,469
a part of the. Reporting the

3327
02:33:44,469 --> 02:33:46,337
cease-fire, I'm not

3328
02:33:46,337 --> 02:33:48,640
understanding with the funding

3329
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:51,676
comes flow and what are you

3330
02:33:51,676 --> 02:33:52,577
going to be recommending aloun

3331
02:33:52,577 --> 02:33:53,278
stipends of financial

3332
02:33:53,278 --> 02:33:55,278
incentives would seize 5, 5,

3333
02:33:57,148 --> 02:33:59,548
$100 per month. There's also

3334
02:34:00,185 --> 02:34:01,190
something called lifetime

3335
02:34:01,190 --> 02:34:02,854
fellowship pilot. That also

3336
02:34:02,854 --> 02:34:05,254
incentives of $1000 monthly to

3337
02:34:06,758 --> 02:34:07,625
participation in Seas. 5. It's

3338
02:34:07,625 --> 02:34:09,427
very important that people

3339
02:34:09,427 --> 02:34:10,963
understand 2 points to cease

3340
02:34:10,963 --> 02:34:13,198
fire. One point calls for

3341
02:34:13,198 --> 02:34:14,933
people to voluntarily submit

3342
02:34:14,933 --> 02:34:17,368
to trying to come out of

3343
02:34:17,368 --> 02:34:19,637
crime. The other point

3344
02:34:19,637 --> 02:34:20,338
involves the police, the

3345
02:34:20,338 --> 02:34:22,600
thirtysomething offices going

3346
02:34:22,600 --> 02:34:24,406
people who will not

3347
02:34:25,376 --> 02:34:28,376
participate. And we don't have

3348
02:34:28,780 --> 02:34:30,348
that discussion. Any programs

3349
02:34:30,348 --> 02:34:32,383
that you hope some would

3350
02:34:32,383 --> 02:34:33,118
advocate for services and

3351
02:34:33,118 --> 02:34:35,518
resources around seaside human

3352
02:34:35,820 --> 02:34:37,589
trafficking. Girl, the deal

3353
02:34:37,589 --> 02:34:39,457
with mental health services,

3354
02:34:39,457 --> 02:34:41,426
drug treatment, anger

3355
02:34:41,426 --> 02:34:42,160
management, job training

3356
02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:45,160
housing because the funding is

3357
02:34:45,964 --> 02:34:48,364
not there. Currently. Thank

3358
02:34:50,235 --> 02:34:50,935
you, MISS A That public

3359
02:34:50,935 --> 02:34:53,338
comment on this. Can I ask a

3360
02:34:53,338 --> 02:34:56,338
question? Can I comment on

3361
02:34:56,875 --> 02:34:59,944
that? Alright. And I'm glad to

3362
02:34:59,944 --> 02:35:01,513
comment. First all, the chairs

3363
02:35:01,513 --> 02:35:02,147
at this said, ok we can

3364
02:35:02,147 --> 02:35:04,547
respond to public comment

3365
02:35:04,616 --> 02:35:05,750
stuff for clarification. Yeah.

3366
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:08,750
That's when we get some

3367
02:35:09,354 --> 02:35:11,754
clarification first of all.

3368
02:35:12,390 --> 02:35:13,458
You're absolutely correct. A

3369
02:35:13,458 --> 02:35:14,125
cease-fire is 2 different

3370
02:35:14,125 --> 02:35:17,125
parts is a law enforcement

3371
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:20,465
part. News. Community part in

3372
02:35:20,465 --> 02:35:23,100
it. The second part that I

3373
02:35:23,100 --> 02:35:24,437
believe if I heard I might

3374
02:35:24,437 --> 02:35:28,370
hurt wrong, I'm sure you will

3375
02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:30,575
correct me. They do offer

3376
02:35:30,575 --> 02:35:33,770
siphons in grants for those

3377
02:35:33,770 --> 02:35:34,846
that takes services. Let me

3378
02:35:34,846 --> 02:35:36,948
clarify that up. Real quickly

3379
02:35:36,948 --> 02:35:40,548
and clarified apart. No one in

3380
02:35:44,422 --> 02:35:45,230
cease-fire. The message is.

3381
02:35:45,230 --> 02:35:47,192
Even if you don't take

3382
02:35:47,192 --> 02:35:49,192
service, stop shooting.

3383
02:35:49,828 --> 02:35:51,396
There's no coming after you

3384
02:35:51,396 --> 02:35:52,970
foot because you didn't take

3385
02:35:52,970 --> 02:35:53,264
service. That's no such thing

3386
02:35:53,264 --> 02:35:55,100
that has never happened. I

3387
02:35:55,100 --> 02:35:58,100
will fight against that. That

3388
02:35:58,503 --> 02:35:59,471
has never happened. You don't

3389
02:35:59,471 --> 02:36:01,720
have to take a service, but

3390
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:02,730
they will ask you to stop

3391
02:36:02,730 --> 02:36:04,420
shooting. Now, those who

3392
02:36:04,420 --> 02:36:04,909
continue to carry a gun and

3393
02:36:04,909 --> 02:36:07,309
continue to shoot those

3394
02:36:07,946 --> 02:36:10,946
groups. The police. Opd will

3395
02:36:11,749 --> 02:36:14,338
come after those groups that

3396
02:36:14,338 --> 02:36:14,717
they have documented

3397
02:36:14,717 --> 02:36:15,520
scientifically evidence that

3398
02:36:15,520 --> 02:36:16,921
continue shooting them in

3399
02:36:16,921 --> 02:36:17,756
their group and then they will

3400
02:36:17,756 --> 02:36:19,991
go after group of those guys

3401
02:36:19,991 --> 02:36:20,759
that continue shooting.

3402
02:36:20,759 --> 02:36:23,194
There's no such thing as if

3403
02:36:23,194 --> 02:36:23,862
you don't take service. Did

3404
02:36:23,862 --> 02:36:26,640
police is going rescue? No

3405
02:36:26,640 --> 02:36:28,666
such thing. Because we have a

3406
02:36:28,666 --> 02:36:31,169
lot of guys come in and they

3407
02:36:31,169 --> 02:36:32,937
say, hey, I got a job, ok,

3408
02:36:32,937 --> 02:36:34,639
just stop shooting. That's the

3409
02:36:34,639 --> 02:36:35,340
whole key. Whether you take

3410
02:36:35,340 --> 02:36:36,508
service is not the whole key

3411
02:36:36,508 --> 02:36:40,108
is for you to stop shooting.

3412
02:36:40,578 --> 02:36:42,413
So I want to make that part

3413
02:36:42,413 --> 02:36:43,314
clear. You can have not just

3414
02:36:43,314 --> 02:36:44,150
so people can have

3415
02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:47,150
understanding of how to cease

3416
02:36:51,456 --> 02:36:52,190
fire works. Okay. And as MR.

3417
02:36:52,190 --> 02:36:55,190
Eich correctly pointed out, we

3418
02:36:56,940 --> 02:36:57,595
did acts and I skip item c.

3419
02:36:57,595 --> 02:36:58,329
But it's fine because we also

3420
02:36:58,329 --> 02:37:00,131
don't yet have written opinion

3421
02:37:00,131 --> 02:37:02,234
from the city attorney. So

3422
02:37:02,234 --> 02:37:04,469
this item can. Just take that

3423
02:37:04,469 --> 02:37:08,690
once place. So let's move back

3424
02:37:12,911 --> 02:37:15,146
up to. Discussing the budget.

3425
02:37:15,146 --> 02:37:15,814
Okay. So I incorporated the

3426
02:37:15,814 --> 02:37:18,814
feedback that you guys gave

3427
02:37:18,883 --> 02:37:22,483
last month. And moved some of

3428
02:37:24,956 --> 02:37:25,657
the money around. We do have.

3429
02:37:25,657 --> 02:37:28,657
Kind of an exorbitant amount

3430
02:37:29,894 --> 02:37:32,997
of funds. And so, you we can

3431
02:37:32,997 --> 02:37:35,997
move around as needed. Also,

3432
02:37:36,334 --> 02:37:37,168
like for us to consider what

3433
02:37:37,168 --> 02:37:40,168
options might be available as

3434
02:37:40,538 --> 02:37:43,242
like back up expenses or

3435
02:37:43,242 --> 02:37:44,409
things to consider how we

3436
02:37:44,409 --> 02:37:45,900
could use the money for dual

3437
02:37:45,900 --> 02:37:46,412
purpose with the city,

3438
02:37:46,412 --> 02:37:47,146
something that supports

3439
02:37:47,146 --> 02:37:50,146
commission and also meet a

3440
02:37:52,183 --> 02:37:52,884
city need if we. Come in

3441
02:37:52,884 --> 02:37:55,884
significantly and are on our

3442
02:37:55,987 --> 02:37:59,587
budget, which we MAY be. Which

3443
02:38:00,458 --> 02:38:01,920
we MAY be likely to do

3444
02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:04,920
depending on how the rfu

3445
02:38:05,230 --> 02:38:07,899
workout and and how much past

3446
02:38:07,899 --> 02:38:09,330
the building we do as a

3447
02:38:09,330 --> 02:38:09,868
commission of I was excited to

3448
02:38:09,868 --> 02:38:10,568
hear these security training,

3449
02:38:10,568 --> 02:38:12,203
though I MAY take issue with

3450
02:38:12,203 --> 02:38:15,203
the name. I think the

3451
02:38:17,876 --> 02:38:20,876
interesting. Okay. So open it

3452
02:38:21,790 --> 02:38:21,780
up for he'd the primary

3453
02:38:21,780 --> 02:38:22,447
changes that increase in the

3454
02:38:22,447 --> 02:38:24,847
capacity building budget to

3455
02:38:25,750 --> 02:38:27,452
account for increases prices

3456
02:38:27,452 --> 02:38:28,119
well, everything. And then I

3457
02:38:28,119 --> 02:38:30,119
decrease office supplies.

3458
02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:32,690
Don't need a ton of those. And

3459
02:38:32,690 --> 02:38:35,900
think decreased printing and

3460
02:38:37,595 --> 02:38:38,329
advertising. You know, black

3461
02:38:38,329 --> 02:38:39,300
ties bigger meetings and stuff

3462
02:38:39,300 --> 02:38:42,630
like that. Once we really get

3463
02:38:47,238 --> 02:38:48,106
going. To be transparent. I

3464
02:38:48,106 --> 02:38:48,807
believe in being transparent

3465
02:38:48,807 --> 02:38:49,507
when it comes mind because I

3466
02:38:49,507 --> 02:38:50,809
want no bikes and we're doing

3467
02:38:50,809 --> 02:38:53,711
this and doing that. How much

3468
02:38:53,711 --> 02:38:57,911
money have we spent so far? We

3469
02:39:00,518 --> 02:39:01,419
know That's a great question.

3470
02:39:01,419 --> 02:39:02,687
Commissioner and I will I

3471
02:39:02,687 --> 02:39:05,870
requested that information for

3472
02:39:05,824 --> 02:39:06,524
that part of that Chan's

3473
02:39:06,524 --> 02:39:07,258
requests. Okay. And so I can

3474
02:39:07,258 --> 02:39:10,795
for write that and a future

3475
02:39:10,795 --> 02:39:11,729
meeting. Henry why I say that

3476
02:39:11,729 --> 02:39:14,729
because we don't want somebody

3477
02:39:14,934 --> 02:39:17,334
online because we'll get

3478
02:39:18,690 --> 02:39:20,205
accused of getting money for

3479
02:39:20,205 --> 02:39:21,806
all private things. All

3480
02:39:21,806 --> 02:39:24,276
private pit. So if we keep a

3481
02:39:24,276 --> 02:39:27,276
trans parent, then it'll be.

3482
02:39:27,779 --> 02:39:28,346
Great. And then next thing.

3483
02:39:28,346 --> 02:39:30,746
How much for capacity

3484
02:39:32,160 --> 02:39:35,421
building? Are we close to use?

3485
02:39:35,421 --> 02:39:39,621
Not how we even use that yet.

3486
02:39:39,758 --> 02:39:42,158
I've used about 25 2700 for

3487
02:39:42,427 --> 02:39:44,827
the Hawkeyes in face. 27,000

3488
02:39:46,464 --> 02:39:48,566
will cause. We've I say that

3489
02:39:48,566 --> 02:39:52,166
is we should have a ongoing

3490
02:39:54,773 --> 02:39:56,575
training session. Not only for

3491
02:39:56,575 --> 02:39:59,575
us, but maybe our training

3492
02:39:59,778 --> 02:40:00,645
session. We can use to fight

3493
02:40:00,645 --> 02:40:03,470
the public in for that. Also

3494
02:40:03,470 --> 02:40:03,848
for capacity building. We we

3495
02:40:03,848 --> 02:40:06,452
want to be so transparent to

3496
02:40:06,452 --> 02:40:09,454
offer this to it. Everyone not

3497
02:40:09,454 --> 02:40:10,588
just for ourselves. You know,

3498
02:40:10,588 --> 02:40:11,323
good people accuse is going to

3499
02:40:11,323 --> 02:40:14,323
Lake Tahoe spending the money.

3500
02:40:14,592 --> 02:40:17,695
We know what the Lake Tahoe.

3501
02:40:17,695 --> 02:40:18,363
So these let's make sure that

3502
02:40:18,363 --> 02:40:20,763
have this capacity building

3503
02:40:21,900 --> 02:40:24,200
that we do some great. That we

3504
02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:27,200
can pass down. Yeah, that's

3505
02:40:27,472 --> 02:40:28,720
going help our community. And

3506
02:40:28,720 --> 02:40:29,542
that's a good point.

3507
02:40:29,542 --> 02:40:30,241
Everything you got on here is

3508
02:40:30,241 --> 02:40:33,241
outstanding. So we need about

3509
02:40:35,680 --> 02:40:38,616
it. 500,000 for food and drink

3510
02:40:38,616 --> 02:40:41,616
I'm just messing around. Also

3511
02:40:42,200 --> 02:40:42,754
add that there significant

3512
02:40:42,754 --> 02:40:45,570
safeguards in place to prevent

3513
02:40:45,570 --> 02:40:48,570
misuse of funds having gone

3514
02:40:48,160 --> 02:40:50,160
through the reimbursements.

3515
02:40:52,730 --> 02:40:55,730
The saga. And like their

3516
02:40:56,968 --> 02:40:57,669
receipts. And Mike. Everything

3517
02:40:57,669 --> 02:41:01,239
its its of its very intensive

3518
02:41:01,239 --> 02:41:01,906
process. And so I don't think

3519
02:41:01,906 --> 02:41:05,506
it's if a dish assures any

3520
02:41:06,478 --> 02:41:07,178
members of the public quite

3521
02:41:07,178 --> 02:41:08,746
literally not capable duping

3522
02:41:08,746 --> 02:41:10,482
the system because everything

3523
02:41:10,482 --> 02:41:12,882
is accounted for in

3524
02:41:13,818 --> 02:41:16,218
excruciating detail. We do

3525
02:41:18,823 --> 02:41:20,859
live in a society. Where a

3526
02:41:20,859 --> 02:41:23,259
conspiracy theories goal. All

3527
02:41:23,662 --> 02:41:25,564
across the board. And the only

3528
02:41:25,564 --> 02:41:26,564
way you can defeat a

3529
02:41:26,564 --> 02:41:28,964
conspiracy, there to be

3530
02:41:29,668 --> 02:41:32,680
transparent for. And that's

3531
02:41:32,710 --> 02:41:33,938
send it now. Why on screen?

3532
02:41:33,938 --> 02:41:36,938
We're together because we want

3533
02:41:39,577 --> 02:41:42,480
to be transparent. And let me

3534
02:41:42,480 --> 02:41:43,281
give some personal life. Most

3535
02:41:43,281 --> 02:41:46,281
people know that I pastored

3536
02:41:47,118 --> 02:41:51,318
church in a Deep and I haven't

3537
02:41:51,923 --> 02:41:52,891
taken a salary in 14 years. So

3538
02:41:52,891 --> 02:41:53,625
when people ask me, how do you

3539
02:41:53,625 --> 02:41:57,225
do all these things? Because I

3540
02:41:59,630 --> 02:41:59,731
don't take a salary. And so

3541
02:41:59,731 --> 02:42:01,299
it's transparent. My church

3542
02:42:01,299 --> 02:42:04,299
knows that membership. I give

3543
02:42:04,335 --> 02:42:05,360
them. What we spent this year.

3544
02:42:05,360 --> 02:42:05,737
This is how much to was. This

3545
02:42:05,737 --> 02:42:07,272
is what it is. This how much

3546
02:42:07,272 --> 02:42:08,339
you gate this is what you've

3547
02:42:08,339 --> 02:42:11,939
done this way money your money

3548
02:42:12,110 --> 02:42:14,130
went to feeding clients from

3549
02:42:14,130 --> 02:42:14,746
cease-fire. You did this for a

3550
02:42:14,746 --> 02:42:15,781
cease-fire client to help him.

3551
02:42:15,781 --> 02:42:18,983
You did this for this event.

3552
02:42:18,983 --> 02:42:19,651
Whatever the money went, we

3553
02:42:19,651 --> 02:42:20,685
have to be that transparent

3554
02:42:20,685 --> 02:42:24,285
here when it comes to our

3555
02:42:24,522 --> 02:42:26,624
budget because asking the fire

3556
02:42:26,624 --> 02:42:29,240
department pd were asking

3557
02:42:30,595 --> 02:42:31,496
macro, we're asking every dbp

3558
02:42:31,496 --> 02:42:33,310
to be transparent with their

3559
02:42:33,310 --> 02:42:34,320
funds. And we're asking also

3560
02:42:34,320 --> 02:42:37,202
who else City Council to be

3561
02:42:37,202 --> 02:42:39,104
transparent? When they look at

3562
02:42:39,104 --> 02:42:41,172
this film. Like, oh, those

3563
02:42:41,172 --> 02:42:41,806
guys not playing with the

3564
02:42:41,806 --> 02:42:44,806
money because this is the

3565
02:42:44,943 --> 02:42:46,344
people's money. Just people

3566
02:42:46,344 --> 02:42:49,944
money. So the next thing we

3567
02:42:50,482 --> 02:42:51,583
do, I would like for us to do

3568
02:42:51,583 --> 02:42:53,985
which you caught that because

3569
02:42:53,985 --> 02:42:56,385
the sound disabilities, come

3570
02:42:56,721 --> 02:42:59,224
to be quiet. A that's a good

3571
02:42:59,224 --> 02:43:00,910
reminder for us to do. And

3572
02:43:00,910 --> 02:43:00,792
like regular updates on our

3573
02:43:00,792 --> 02:43:04,392
spending as we go through the

3574
02:43:06,631 --> 02:43:07,565
year. Would Oakland Fire was

3575
02:43:07,565 --> 02:43:10,565
sharing was one of Oakland's

3576
02:43:15,240 --> 02:43:17,640
own. Deby Baffert. Does

3577
02:43:18,576 --> 02:43:19,844
consulting civility,

3578
02:43:19,844 --> 02:43:22,844
intelligence and the chief was

3579
02:43:22,914 --> 02:43:24,215
giving us synopsis. Well,

3580
02:43:24,215 --> 02:43:26,217
before we get on the record

3581
02:43:26,217 --> 02:43:27,118
just about how amazing the

3582
02:43:27,118 --> 02:43:29,870
training was. I think they

3583
02:43:29,870 --> 02:43:31,489
have him coming back for him

3584
02:43:31,489 --> 02:43:35,890
and his team for maybe 4 more

3585
02:43:37,630 --> 02:43:38,163
sessions. I witnessed the

3586
02:43:38,163 --> 02:43:40,163
impact of civility,

3587
02:43:43,402 --> 02:43:45,402
intelligence. Maybe probably

3588
02:43:46,271 --> 02:43:46,971
some of the most

3589
02:43:46,971 --> 02:43:48,971
transformative sessions I've

3590
02:43:50,842 --> 02:43:52,844
witnessed. With people and as

3591
02:43:52,844 --> 02:43:53,711
we extended, not just to the

3592
02:43:53,711 --> 02:43:56,111
commission, but anyone else

3593
02:43:57,482 --> 02:44:00,151
like the v p. Perhaps even a

3594
02:44:00,151 --> 02:44:03,870
some of those people who are

3595
02:44:03,870 --> 02:44:06,687
not grantees. Of the vp, but

3596
02:44:08,126 --> 02:44:08,793
we can spend to help train get

3597
02:44:08,793 --> 02:44:12,393
them up to par, maybe even

3598
02:44:13,731 --> 02:44:15,433
prepare them. 4 next. Go round

3599
02:44:15,433 --> 02:44:17,969
of grants mean grantee of the

3600
02:44:17,969 --> 02:44:20,369
vp. But the civilian

3601
02:44:22,674 --> 02:44:24,476
intelligence really. Helps

3602
02:44:24,476 --> 02:44:25,110
people navigate spaces by

3603
02:44:25,110 --> 02:44:25,710
knowing self and having a

3604
02:44:25,710 --> 02:44:27,710
deeper understanding of

3605
02:44:29,414 --> 02:44:30,548
others. Yeah, I think that

3606
02:44:30,548 --> 02:44:33,548
sounds like a great training

3607
02:44:33,585 --> 02:44:36,621
and b, happy to learn more

3608
02:44:36,621 --> 02:44:37,222
about it. I can reach out Ft

3609
02:44:37,222 --> 02:44:40,222
to learn more about who

3610
02:44:41,359 --> 02:44:42,427
provide said in the costs.

3611
02:44:42,427 --> 02:44:43,128
I'll actually out. I'll give

3612
02:44:43,128 --> 02:44:45,528
you some contact information.

3613
02:44:47,832 --> 02:44:48,533
You. For the organization

3614
02:44:48,533 --> 02:44:52,133
directly. I'll send it to you

3615
02:44:54,305 --> 02:44:55,106
and you can speak directly. So

3616
02:44:55,106 --> 02:44:58,106
company. Yeah, since it isn't

3617
02:44:59,644 --> 02:45:01,746
as agency we will need to.

3618
02:45:01,746 --> 02:45:02,680
Take a look at what kind

3619
02:45:02,680 --> 02:45:03,848
requirements there are around

3620
02:45:03,848 --> 02:45:04,516
contracting. If it's over,

3621
02:45:04,516 --> 02:45:06,184
certain amount has to go to

3622
02:45:06,184 --> 02:45:06,885
like an open bed. I'm not sure

3623
02:45:06,885 --> 02:45:09,721
how it works with soliciting

3624
02:45:09,721 --> 02:45:10,388
specifics or if. Perhaps their

3625
02:45:10,388 --> 02:45:11,890
existing contract could be

3626
02:45:11,890 --> 02:45:12,657
amended to include us. And we

3627
02:45:12,657 --> 02:45:13,291
covered that. I don't that we

3628
02:45:13,291 --> 02:45:15,691
have to do brainstorming

3629
02:45:16,795 --> 02:45:18,396
around that. To make sure it's

3630
02:45:18,396 --> 02:45:19,130
all above board. But I do.

3631
02:45:19,130 --> 02:45:22,660
Like the idea of pursuing that

3632
02:45:22,660 --> 02:45:25,660
training. And I would say

3633
02:45:25,703 --> 02:45:26,405
again and even let's keep an

3634
02:45:26,405 --> 02:45:29,307
eye out for not just training

3635
02:45:29,307 --> 02:45:32,307
for a specifically to Dixon's

3636
02:45:33,312 --> 02:45:36,247
point. The community has a

3637
02:45:36,247 --> 02:45:38,183
right to have access to some

3638
02:45:38,183 --> 02:45:39,150
amazing opportunities that we

3639
02:45:39,150 --> 02:45:42,587
see. And we've got the money

3640
02:45:42,587 --> 02:45:46,187
in our budget. So less cash

3641
02:45:46,891 --> 02:45:49,294
amount. They paid I agree. I

3642
02:45:49,294 --> 02:45:50,362
do love the idea of extending

3643
02:45:50,362 --> 02:45:52,762
and invitation for trainings

3644
02:45:53,933 --> 02:45:54,632
that we attend. I will just

3645
02:45:54,632 --> 02:45:58,169
hear the city attorney in the

3646
02:45:58,169 --> 02:45:58,870
back of my of like they did.

3647
02:45:58,870 --> 02:45:59,571
It does have to be in support

3648
02:45:59,571 --> 02:46:02,440
of the commission, which is a

3649
02:46:02,440 --> 02:46:03,341
fairly broad mandate. And I do

3650
02:46:03,341 --> 02:46:04,609
think that, you know,

3651
02:46:04,609 --> 02:46:07,900
improving the capacity for

3652
02:46:08,120 --> 02:46:11,149
some of our. Grantee or the dp

3653
02:46:11,149 --> 02:46:11,850
grantees. To, you know,

3654
02:46:11,850 --> 02:46:14,986
improve what they do and how

3655
02:46:14,986 --> 02:46:17,489
they do it would be important

3656
02:46:17,489 --> 02:46:20,489
also have to check for

3657
02:46:22,327 --> 02:46:23,928
overlapping, priorities Not

3658
02:46:23,928 --> 02:46:24,629
duplicating they know. Vp is

3659
02:46:24,629 --> 02:46:27,290
already working with grantees

3660
02:46:27,332 --> 02:46:27,899
to expand capacity. I have a

3661
02:46:27,899 --> 02:46:30,268
meeting with the city

3662
02:46:30,268 --> 02:46:31,136
attorney, but I will bring all

3663
02:46:31,136 --> 02:46:34,105
of that up to see exactly how

3664
02:46:34,105 --> 02:46:36,741
broadly. The in support of the

3665
02:46:36,741 --> 02:46:39,141
commission. Language could be

3666
02:46:41,913 --> 02:46:44,313
interpreted. To Tiffany. Yes,

3667
02:46:45,817 --> 02:46:48,217
I have 2 recommendations. I'd

3668
02:46:48,453 --> 02:46:49,870
like to propose that we

3669
02:46:49,870 --> 02:46:51,487
implement a budget versus

3670
02:46:54,759 --> 02:46:56,494
actual Just a transparency.

3671
02:46:56,494 --> 02:46:58,563
Check up on a quarterly basis

3672
02:46:58,563 --> 02:47:00,640
to help what Pastor Dixon

3673
02:47:00,640 --> 02:47:02,000
suggests that around

3674
02:47:02,000 --> 02:47:04,200
transparency that will be

3675
02:47:04,200 --> 02:47:07,200
helpful. And then the other

3676
02:47:07,710 --> 02:47:08,840
one to your point around what

3677
02:47:08,840 --> 02:47:10,809
to do with the funds. If we

3678
02:47:10,809 --> 02:47:14,112
are under budget, I would like

3679
02:47:14,112 --> 02:47:15,130
to recommend a community

3680
02:47:15,130 --> 02:47:18,130
activation traps on a yearly

3681
02:47:19,150 --> 02:47:20,850
basis specifically during the

3682
02:47:20,850 --> 02:47:21,754
summertime based on data. We

3683
02:47:21,754 --> 02:47:24,754
know that the summertime is

3684
02:47:26,524 --> 02:47:27,625
one of the most like. Active

3685
02:47:27,625 --> 02:47:30,625
times for violence and crime.

3686
02:47:30,662 --> 02:47:31,329
So that would be a good time.

3687
02:47:31,329 --> 02:47:32,597
These community activations

3688
02:47:32,597 --> 02:47:34,997
are this community activation

3689
02:47:35,266 --> 02:47:37,266
would essentially addressed

3690
02:47:40,805 --> 02:47:42,841
the goals of the top spot. And

3691
02:47:42,841 --> 02:47:45,841
we could stipend some young

3692
02:47:46,377 --> 02:47:48,179
people to conduct some surveys

3693
02:47:48,179 --> 02:47:49,514
that will connect to the

3694
02:47:49,514 --> 02:47:52,514
evaluation report that we want

3695
02:47:53,418 --> 02:47:54,986
to share out eventually and it

3696
02:47:54,986 --> 02:47:55,720
will foster safety and

3697
02:47:55,720 --> 02:47:58,120
community connections. So that

3698
02:48:01,360 --> 02:48:03,950
is I think one great idea. To

3699
02:48:03,950 --> 02:48:03,928
potentially roll out were

3700
02:48:03,928 --> 02:48:06,928
under budget. Yeah, no. I

3701
02:48:07,699 --> 02:48:08,666
think that's a great idea. It

3702
02:48:08,666 --> 02:48:09,334
does overlap summit with our

3703
02:48:09,334 --> 02:48:09,934
fellowship. And so we could

3704
02:48:09,934 --> 02:48:12,934
just clarify that as an

3705
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:18,943
expansion for specific. Yeah.

3706
02:48:18,943 --> 02:48:19,544
To also learn more about

3707
02:48:19,544 --> 02:48:21,246
committee activation in

3708
02:48:21,246 --> 02:48:24,246
general in the process behind

3709
02:48:25,116 --> 02:48:27,152
it but you know what? That

3710
02:48:27,152 --> 02:48:30,152
sounds really We could also

3711
02:48:32,690 --> 02:48:34,690
during community activation.

3712
02:48:36,795 --> 02:48:39,195
Backpack, giveaways. And I'm

3713
02:48:40,932 --> 02:48:41,533
thinking about bringing opd to

3714
02:48:41,533 --> 02:48:43,533
table recruitment. I'm

3715
02:48:43,868 --> 02:48:45,937
thinking about bringing dbp to

3716
02:48:45,937 --> 02:48:46,738
have some violence,

3717
02:48:46,738 --> 02:48:47,439
interrupters and space

3718
02:48:47,439 --> 02:48:49,839
connecting with the community

3719
02:48:50,542 --> 02:48:51,309
and the neighborhood. I mean,

3720
02:48:51,309 --> 02:48:52,811
it's it will be a great

3721
02:48:52,811 --> 02:48:53,478
opportunity. A local fire

3722
02:48:53,478 --> 02:48:54,345
department, macro, we could

3723
02:48:54,345 --> 02:48:57,945
have a hold of player. Yeah,

3724
02:49:01,219 --> 02:49:01,920
that's right. Yes, I did hear

3725
02:49:01,920 --> 02:49:02,620
them. And so I said we could

3726
02:49:02,620 --> 02:49:04,889
have a whole little fair. You

3727
02:49:04,889 --> 02:49:05,590
know, like, have I do like

3728
02:49:05,590 --> 02:49:06,324
national night out, obviously

3729
02:49:06,324 --> 02:49:09,594
a much smaller scale. But just

3730
02:49:09,594 --> 02:49:11,994
like. Informing the community

3731
02:49:12,464 --> 02:49:15,464
about what these programs But

3732
02:49:16,340 --> 02:49:18,434
they offer like resources.

3733
02:49:23,341 --> 02:49:26,941
Didn't can we get out? They

3734
02:49:29,147 --> 02:49:30,116
smoked No, no. Self-promotion.

3735
02:49:30,116 --> 02:49:31,716
I will say, though, if you

3736
02:49:31,716 --> 02:49:32,450
guys you want cards, you can

3737
02:49:32,450 --> 02:49:33,518
order them. I did that for the

3738
02:49:33,518 --> 02:49:35,918
conference is very helpful.

3739
02:49:36,554 --> 02:49:39,554
And this can be reimbursed.

3740
02:49:40,158 --> 02:49:42,558
And office expenses. Gold

3741
02:49:52,370 --> 02:49:55,370
plated Gold Okay. I'm like

3742
02:49:56,508 --> 02:49:58,676
great ideas. Do we? Do? We

3743
02:49:58,676 --> 02:50:02,276
want to amend the budget too.

3744
02:50:02,447 --> 02:50:03,648
Include? Well, I think we need

3745
02:50:03,648 --> 02:50:07,248
to talk to city attorney for

3746
02:50:08,286 --> 02:50:09,754
but we could budget. All ready

3747
02:50:09,754 --> 02:50:10,488
for that kind of community

3748
02:50:10,488 --> 02:50:13,488
activation. I think it's great

3749
02:50:18,196 --> 02:50:20,432
idea. We could make Contracts.

3750
02:50:20,432 --> 02:50:22,832
Both Rp sequel. Because

3751
02:50:23,268 --> 02:50:25,668
they're already pretty hefty

3752
02:50:28,600 --> 02:50:28,706
budget 100 for that. The

3753
02:50:28,706 --> 02:50:30,706
following approval discussion

3754
02:50:31,276 --> 02:50:34,876
with the city attorney. We all

3755
02:50:41,352 --> 02:50:42,200
think. Yes, cool. Well, then.

3756
02:50:42,200 --> 02:50:42,687
And doing much to adapt. We

3757
02:50:42,687 --> 02:50:43,421
know this is an information

3758
02:50:43,421 --> 02:50:45,723
item. No, it wasn't. It was an

3759
02:50:45,723 --> 02:50:48,723
action item. Okay. With that,

3760
02:50:50,595 --> 02:50:53,298
I'll move to. Actually it's

3761
02:50:53,298 --> 02:50:55,400
very vague. Don't really need

3762
02:50:55,400 --> 02:50:56,102
to move on anything here. Do I

3763
02:50:56,102 --> 02:50:56,835
cause? I'm just going to come

3764
02:50:56,835 --> 02:50:59,671
back with more information for

3765
02:50:59,671 --> 02:51:00,605
for ok? I will follow up with

3766
02:51:00,605 --> 02:51:03,608
the city attorney on this and

3767
02:51:03,608 --> 02:51:05,677
several other items and report

3768
02:51:05,677 --> 02:51:08,146
back. But we are in agreement

3769
02:51:08,146 --> 02:51:11,216
that we would make the rfp

3770
02:51:11,216 --> 02:51:11,950
budgets equal. So as to

3771
02:51:11,950 --> 02:51:13,950
allocate $100,000 for a

3772
02:51:14,352 --> 02:51:16,752
community activation. Event or

3773
02:51:22,427 --> 02:51:25,427
period. Next step. We've got.

3774
02:51:28,867 --> 02:51:30,680
Open forum. I believe. Chair

3775
02:51:30,680 --> 02:51:33,680
side. There is one additional

3776
02:51:35,730 --> 02:51:36,608
item. But you send a update on

3777
02:51:36,608 --> 02:51:39,177
the rfp and city attorney We

3778
02:51:39,177 --> 02:51:42,140
don't have an update from the

3779
02:51:42,140 --> 02:51:43,214
city attorney yet. That is my

3780
02:51:43,214 --> 02:51:45,450
update. Okay. Well, there is

3781
02:51:45,450 --> 02:51:46,117
one update on the rfp process.

3782
02:51:46,117 --> 02:51:50,317
If you like me to bring my

3783
02:51:51,189 --> 02:51:52,424
neck with. Yes, thank you.

3784
02:51:52,424 --> 02:51:53,491
Okay. I'm actually this

3785
02:51:53,491 --> 02:51:55,827
received an email regarding

3786
02:51:55,827 --> 02:51:56,728
the rfp process and this is dr

3787
02:51:56,728 --> 02:51:59,128
p specifically for the

3788
02:52:01,466 --> 02:52:03,435
evaluation. Our finance staff

3789
02:52:03,435 --> 02:52:05,637
has assigned a management

3790
02:52:05,637 --> 02:52:08,339
assistant to work with us on

3791
02:52:08,339 --> 02:52:09,107
the rfp I have. And the

3792
02:52:09,107 --> 02:52:12,707
timeline now and are you will

3793
02:52:17,582 --> 02:52:18,316
be released this fall. When

3794
02:52:18,316 --> 02:52:19,500
it's what it is really so make

3795
02:52:19,500 --> 02:52:23,250
sure that you all are aware of

3796
02:52:24,789 --> 02:52:25,390
that. Have again chart and the

3797
02:52:25,390 --> 02:52:26,570
timeline. So I'm really

3798
02:52:26,570 --> 02:52:28,457
excited about that because

3799
02:52:30,162 --> 02:52:30,762
it's with this staffing

3800
02:52:30,762 --> 02:52:32,330
currently in the city's

3801
02:52:32,330 --> 02:52:33,310
sometimes challenging, too, to

3802
02:52:33,310 --> 02:52:35,431
move forward with everything

3803
02:52:36,234 --> 02:52:36,935
that we need to. But we do

3804
02:52:36,935 --> 02:52:39,504
have a timeline and the staff

3805
02:52:39,504 --> 02:52:42,504
assigned to the Regarding the

3806
02:52:43,740 --> 02:52:43,775
fellowship rfp. That was that

3807
02:52:43,775 --> 02:52:47,312
in your draft rfp. That was a

3808
02:52:47,312 --> 02:52:48,413
year packet last month. We are

3809
02:52:48,413 --> 02:52:50,748
still waiting for a review by

3810
02:52:50,748 --> 02:52:52,250
the city attorney's office.

3811
02:52:52,250 --> 02:52:55,250
And I spoke with City

3812
02:52:56,554 --> 02:52:58,690
attorney. They believe she's

3813
02:52:58,690 --> 02:52:59,390
deputy senior deputy city

3814
02:52:59,390 --> 02:53:02,260
attorney, silly a war in this

3815
02:53:02,260 --> 02:53:04,295
afternoon. And she we'll

3816
02:53:04,295 --> 02:53:05,263
follow up with on some legal

3817
02:53:05,263 --> 02:53:07,398
guidance in terms of how we

3818
02:53:07,398 --> 02:53:08,134
move forward with the Belgian

3819
02:53:08,134 --> 02:53:10,269
party. So we're moving forward

3820
02:53:10,269 --> 02:53:13,269
and making progress from those

3821
02:53:14,774 --> 02:53:17,420
2 items. Thank you. Now we can

3822
02:53:17,420 --> 02:53:17,742
move to open forum and the

3823
02:53:17,742 --> 02:53:19,878
members of the public MAY

3824
02:53:19,878 --> 02:53:20,445
speak on any non-agendized

3825
02:53:20,445 --> 02:53:23,445
items with an ops box

3826
02:53:30,255 --> 02:53:32,655
jurisdiction. You can vote,

3827
02:53:33,591 --> 02:53:34,325
right? You have 2 minutes on

3828
02:53:34,325 --> 02:53:36,725
item. David Boatright district

3829
02:53:39,931 --> 02:53:42,931
4. Which the chief was here

3830
02:53:45,470 --> 02:53:46,204
hear this. During the Oakland

3831
02:53:46,204 --> 02:53:48,204
Wildfire Prevention Commission

3832
02:53:50,742 --> 02:53:52,811
meeting the last one. He made

3833
02:53:52,811 --> 02:53:54,212
the comment that because of

3834
02:53:54,212 --> 02:53:54,780
dangerous situation between

3835
02:53:54,780 --> 02:53:57,180
one of his vegetation

3836
02:53:57,916 --> 02:53:59,551
inspectors and the public that

3837
02:53:59,551 --> 02:54:00,218
he directed all of his

3838
02:54:00,218 --> 02:54:00,886
vegetation inspectors to do

3839
02:54:00,886 --> 02:54:03,286
their inspections from the

3840
02:54:06,191 --> 02:54:09,694
street. And to me, that isn't

3841
02:54:09,694 --> 02:54:12,664
going catch too much. There's

3842
02:54:12,664 --> 02:54:13,465
probably a good place there

3843
02:54:13,465 --> 02:54:14,299
for saving getting volunteers

3844
02:54:14,299 --> 02:54:17,299
to do inspections from the

3845
02:54:19,337 --> 02:54:21,390
street. And give the fireman's

3846
02:54:21,390 --> 02:54:21,906
more time off. Instead of

3847
02:54:21,906 --> 02:54:23,808
going around doing and

3848
02:54:23,808 --> 02:54:26,808
necessary or not that useful

3849
02:54:27,110 --> 02:54:29,800
inspections from the street.

3850
02:54:29,800 --> 02:54:31,316
And they also know where the

3851
02:54:31,316 --> 02:54:31,950
problem areas are because

3852
02:54:31,950 --> 02:54:32,650
people it's a very small

3853
02:54:32,650 --> 02:54:34,652
noncompliance number for the

3854
02:54:34,652 --> 02:54:37,652
city. They should focus their

3855
02:54:38,323 --> 02:54:39,557
efforts on that. So at least

3856
02:54:39,557 --> 02:54:40,592
it's in the record. There's

3857
02:54:40,592 --> 02:54:41,293
area for saving money and make

3858
02:54:41,293 --> 02:54:45,493
it a little easier on the for

3859
02:54:45,830 --> 02:54:48,266
months. Thank you for your

3860
02:54:48,266 --> 02:54:50,666
comment. Just clarify since

3861
02:54:51,350 --> 02:54:52,604
fire suppression isn't in 3

3862
02:54:52,604 --> 02:54:55,400
measure objectives. We don't

3863
02:54:55,173 --> 02:54:55,840
have any influence on that.

3864
02:54:55,840 --> 02:54:57,175
But I will say it. It does

3865
02:54:57,175 --> 02:54:59,575
seem unfortunate that. The

3866
02:55:02,380 --> 02:55:03,810
vegetation. Weather was

3867
02:55:03,810 --> 02:55:06,810
looking at the vegetation and

3868
02:55:06,384 --> 02:55:07,850
defensible space could not be

3869
02:55:07,850 --> 02:55:11,285
safe in doing so. And I hope

3870
02:55:13,558 --> 02:55:15,427
that there's a remedy to that.

3871
02:55:15,427 --> 02:55:19,270
If he is included in measure

3872
02:55:19,464 --> 02:55:21,699
and then under those specific

3873
02:55:21,699 --> 02:55:22,333
3 objectives of measure. And

3874
02:55:22,333 --> 02:55:24,733
regarding like righty of

3875
02:55:26,571 --> 02:55:27,238
property and violent crimes

3876
02:55:27,238 --> 02:55:27,939
producing human trafficking

3877
02:55:27,939 --> 02:55:30,339
sexual exploitation of minors

3878
02:55:32,177 --> 02:55:34,450
and then also improving the

3879
02:55:34,450 --> 02:55:36,445
timeliness and quality of

3880
02:55:41,686 --> 02:55:43,721
emergency response. I see your

3881
02:55:43,721 --> 02:55:45,924
logic, just acknowledging that

3882
02:55:45,924 --> 02:55:46,424
a hop skip and a jump away

3883
02:55:46,424 --> 02:55:47,125
from our specific

3884
02:55:47,125 --> 02:55:49,525
jurisdiction. But I certainly

3885
02:55:52,697 --> 02:55:53,598
think I hope so. And please

3886
02:55:53,598 --> 02:55:54,332
feel free reach out to him. I

3887
02:55:54,332 --> 02:55:57,332
think all input from community

3888
02:55:59,504 --> 02:56:00,972
is important. Okay. So I will

3889
02:56:00,972 --> 02:56:03,809
move to. Fact, there's one

3890
02:56:03,809 --> 02:56:05,430
more one more. Okay. Gosh,

3891
02:56:05,430 --> 02:56:08,643
sorry. I so everybody on zoom,

3892
02:56:10,480 --> 02:56:10,748
I cannot see. Also live Kabul.

3893
02:56:10,748 --> 02:56:13,485
This a sign olamide? You MAY

3894
02:56:13,485 --> 02:56:14,285
begin your comments. According

3895
02:56:14,285 --> 02:56:17,885
to what I've been able to

3896
02:56:18,289 --> 02:56:20,289
discern. Oakland police

3897
02:56:21,126 --> 02:56:22,327
offices involved with

3898
02:56:22,327 --> 02:56:24,327
cease-fire, participating,

3899
02:56:24,496 --> 02:56:26,364
proactive intervention

3900
02:56:26,364 --> 02:56:27,310
Investigations. They conduct

3901
02:56:27,310 --> 02:56:29,310
proactive traffic stops.

3902
02:56:30,401 --> 02:56:32,537
Vehicle slash Uber person

3903
02:56:32,537 --> 02:56:33,238
searches and targeted

3904
02:56:33,238 --> 02:56:35,638
investigations that result in

3905
02:56:36,474 --> 02:56:38,443
the recall will. Recovery of

3906
02:56:38,443 --> 02:56:39,878
illegal firearms in North

3907
02:56:39,878 --> 02:56:42,781
counts. And they also arrest

3908
02:56:42,781 --> 02:56:45,181
not comply. Individuals when

3909
02:56:45,617 --> 02:56:46,284
outreach and support fails.

3910
02:56:46,284 --> 02:56:50,288
Not all of this is going on

3911
02:56:50,288 --> 02:56:51,956
ways. The data. That monthly

3912
02:56:51,956 --> 02:56:54,956
reports out pool at the

3913
02:56:55,627 --> 02:56:56,494
traffic stops, the vehicle

3914
02:56:56,494 --> 02:56:57,195
person searches, the targeted

3915
02:56:57,195 --> 02:56:59,595
investigations that it result

3916
02:57:01,800 --> 02:57:02,600
in what amount of illegal

3917
02:57:02,600 --> 02:57:05,600
firearms and narcotics on a

3918
02:57:05,637 --> 02:57:07,772
monthly basis was recovered.

3919
02:57:07,772 --> 02:57:10,809
And how many people who were

3920
02:57:10,809 --> 02:57:12,510
arrested that were involved in

3921
02:57:12,510 --> 02:57:13,211
not is non compliant

3922
02:57:13,211 --> 02:57:13,845
individuals with outreach and

3923
02:57:13,845 --> 02:57:16,845
support fail way. Is that

3924
02:57:17,949 --> 02:57:19,384
date? All this is going on

3925
02:57:19,384 --> 02:57:20,510
with these thirtysomething

3926
02:57:20,510 --> 02:57:22,510
cease-fire offices whenever

3927
02:57:24,556 --> 02:57:26,691
they doing. Where is the data?

3928
02:57:26,691 --> 02:57:29,691
For reflects on a monthly

3929
02:57:31,229 --> 02:57:32,664
basis? What they are doing.

3930
02:57:32,664 --> 02:57:35,660
And the program supposed to be

3931
02:57:35,660 --> 02:57:36,601
evidence base way is the data

3932
02:57:36,601 --> 02:57:40,201
evidence of the work that they

3933
02:57:40,839 --> 02:57:41,539
do based on categories. So if

3934
02:57:41,539 --> 02:57:45,739
this is not what they do and

3935
02:57:46,770 --> 02:57:46,711
what are they doing? And that

3936
02:57:46,711 --> 02:57:49,711
never that has never been

3937
02:57:50,115 --> 02:57:51,216
presented in report on a

3938
02:57:51,216 --> 02:57:54,452
monthly basis. The work of the

3939
02:57:54,452 --> 02:57:55,120
cease-fire, police offices.

3940
02:57:55,120 --> 02:57:57,822
And I hope at some point it

3941
02:57:57,822 --> 02:58:00,759
will be revealed as well as

3942
02:58:00,759 --> 02:58:02,227
the services and resources on

3943
02:58:02,227 --> 02:58:05,227
a monthly basis housing drug

3944
02:58:06,297 --> 02:58:08,297
treatment, mental health,

3945
02:58:08,867 --> 02:58:09,834
anger management, job

3946
02:58:09,834 --> 02:58:10,535
training, relocation. All of

3947
02:58:10,535 --> 02:58:12,504
this is supposed to be going

3948
02:58:12,504 --> 02:58:16,704
on with the sly, but no data

3949
02:58:16,775 --> 02:58:19,775
ever comes up with numbers.

3950
02:58:20,278 --> 02:58:23,278
Thank you, chair. That public

3951
02:58:25,830 --> 02:58:28,830
comment. Thank you. I will

3952
02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:32,200
move to adjourn. This will

3953
02:58:32,357 --> 02:58:34,757
follow up about rescheduling.

3954
02:58:35,493 --> 02:58:36,528
NOVEMBER and DECEMBER because

3955
02:58:36,528 --> 02:58:37,529
I know Monday after

3956
02:58:37,529 --> 02:58:39,264
Thanksgiving might be

3957
02:58:39,264 --> 02:58:39,998
challenging and also the

3958
02:58:39,998 --> 02:58:40,698
DECEMBER meeting falls on like

3959
02:58:40,698 --> 02:58:43,698
the 20th, which is obviously

3960
02:58:43,868 --> 02:58:44,469
not a good idea. The Monday

3961
02:58:44,469 --> 02:58:46,869
meeting is actually in

3962
02:58:48,873 --> 02:58:49,774
NOVEMBER. 16th. It's the 3rd

3963
02:58:49,774 --> 02:58:50,708
Monday, okay in NOVEMBER. So I

3964
02:58:50,708 --> 02:58:53,111
think that the commission can

3965
02:58:53,111 --> 02:58:54,579
meet on that day. So, I it's

3966
02:58:54,579 --> 02:58:57,579
availabe out that All right.

3967
02:58:59,500 --> 02:59:01,450
That's Muncy. Yes. Combined

3968
02:59:06,558 --> 02:59:07,392
the meeting is ok, right? But

3969
02:59:07,392 --> 02:59:08,260
you aren't. You are correct.

3970
02:59:08,260 --> 02:59:09,994
Chair about the DECEMBER

3971
02:59:09,994 --> 02:59:12,597
meeting. The 80's. Well, the

3972
02:59:12,597 --> 02:59:14,732
DECEMBER meeting is DECEMBER.

3973
02:59:14,732 --> 02:59:15,433
21st. Well, I don't think any

3974
02:59:15,433 --> 02:59:16,670
of us are gonna make that. So

3975
02:59:16,670 --> 02:59:17,569
we'll follow every e-mail

3976
02:59:17,569 --> 02:59:19,969
about availability for earlier

3977
02:59:20,138 --> 02:59:23,138
Monday. In DECEMBER. That they

3978
02:59:26,311 --> 02:59:26,978
don't 16. 16 show can. Be

3979
02:59:26,978 --> 02:59:29,378
DECEMBER 14th. Welcome week

3980
02:59:33,510 --> 02:59:34,552
inside of one. All I on on

3981
02:59:34,552 --> 02:59:35,253
yes, think that way

3982
02:59:35,253 --> 02:59:37,653
technicalities, like me, who

3983
02:59:42,260 --> 02:59:43,294
won't be in town. Catch it.

3984
02:59:43,294 --> 02:59:43,995
Okay. Cool. In that case. I

3985
02:59:43,995 --> 02:59:47,433
move to adjourn and thank you

3986
02:59:47,433 --> 02:59:50,433
all for. They're saying for 58

3987
02:59:51,870 --> 02:59:52,570
right on time. Second 3. The

3988
02:59:52,570 --> 02:59:53,838
second. Just a joint effort.

3989
02:59:53,838 --> 02:59:54,806
You can adjourn. Okay. We're

3990
02:59:54,806 --> 02:59:57,206
adjourned. Good night. Thank