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Very good.

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All right. This meeting is called to

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order. This is the August 11th, 2026

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mayor council meeting. Uh will the clerk

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please read the statement of compliance?

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>> This meeting is being held in accordance

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with the open public meetings act NJSA

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104-6X

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having been duly advertised and posted

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in the municipal building in compliance

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with NJSA 104-8.

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The meeting will adjourn no later than

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10 p.m. unless a majority of the council

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members present vote to extend the time.

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>> All rise for the pledge of allegiance.

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» Would uh Victor German Jr. please lead

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us in the pledge of allegiance?

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>> I aliance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the republic

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for it stands one nation under God

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indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all. Please remain standing for a moment

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of silence. Let's

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also remember Lieutenant James John Gaul

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Jr. He was a member of the Oakland

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Police Department. He passed away

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recently.

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He was retired.

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Thank you.

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» All right. Would the clerk call the

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role, please?

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>> Mayor Kamala,

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>> present.

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>> Council President Talini

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>> here.

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>> Councilman Dumpert

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>> here. Councilman Eert

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>> here.

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>> Councilman Pignatelli

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>> here.

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>> Councilwoman Rose

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>> here.

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>> Councilman Saliani

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>> here.

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>> All right. We have a special occasion

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today. We are swearing in a new

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firefighter.

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>> Uh if you recall last month we swore in

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Ed McDermott senior. Uh this time we're

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going to ask Ed to come forward with his

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son, Ed McDermott the fifth. Correct. Uh

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this is Ed the fifth. Uh Ed is uh going

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to be joining the volunteer fire

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department. Uh Ed also uh graduated high

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school, served four years in the army.

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He has since completed his army service

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and he's currently active in the

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National Guard. So let's give Ed a

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[applause]

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go, Dad. Which way?

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Are you ready?

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>> Okay.

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I, Ed McDermott the 5th,

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>> I, Ed McDermott the 5th,

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>> do solemnly swear

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>> that I will support the Constitution of

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the United States

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>> that I will support the Constitution of

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the United States

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New

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Jersey

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New

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Jersey

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>> that I will bear true faith and

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allegiance

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>> that I will bear true faith and

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allegiance

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>> to the same

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>> and the governments established in the

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United States

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>> and the governments established in the

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United States

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>> and in this state

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>> under the authority of the people

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>> and that I will faithfully and that I

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will faithfully

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>> impartially

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>> and justly

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>> perform all the duties

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>> of the office of firefighter

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>> according to the best of my ability.

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>> So help me God.

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>> Congratulations sir. [applause]

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Thank you.

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» Congratulations.

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>> Thank you for your service.

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right, we can take a quick one minute

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recess. I know there's a lot of

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firefighters that unless you want to

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hang out for the meeting, you're welcome

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to. If not, uh, go

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[laughter]

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So, we're up to the mayor's report. Uh,

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a couple items. Uh, number one, paving.

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Um, as many people know on the dog on

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the Dogwood section, uh, they just Lar,

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the property owner with the condos back

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there, uh, just completed paving McCoy

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Road. Uh, that was at no cost to the

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taxpayer. That was paid for by the

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developer. and we were able to convince

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them to pave all the way up to the

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Franklin Lakes corporate line. So, if

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you go up there, you'll notice that all

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the paving is complete on the Oakland

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side, but when you get to Franklin

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Lakes, it's only half and there's

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patches in there. So, they did right by

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Oakland by uh well, we kind of worked

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with them to make sure they did that.

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All right. Oakland's 20 2026 road

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program. Uh the following roads are

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going to be paved. Currently, they're

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working on they started the concrete

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work. It's going to they're going to be

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working on it this week and next week.

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Uh the following areas are going to be

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paved. The walking path along the

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Dogwood school for the people with

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student with children. There's a walking

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path between Dogwood and Manito that's

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going to be repaved. That has not been

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done for 20 years. Harvard Way is going

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to be repaved. Roosevelt Boulevard from

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First Street to Truman Soccer Field

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parking lot's going to be paved. Uh the

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Veterans Park driveway. West Oakland A

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where we did all the water main work,

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that's going to be paved all the way to

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the Pompson Lakes line, uh where the

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water man work was done. Acorn is also

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going to be paved curb to curb. Stony

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point road, Cheyenne Court, Senica

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Avenue, Masasoy Trail, Kaunga Drive,

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Street, and Maple Drive. Uh we're also

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expecting the county to be paving West

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Oakland A from the McDonald's light all

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the way to Skyline Drive. That's

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probably be happening later either late

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summer, sometime in the spring, but

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that's going to be paid for by the

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county.

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I know there's a problem. Several

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residents have contacted about the Iraco

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and Andrew ponding situation. There's a

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collapsed storm drain in that area. DPW

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is out there in a regular basis uh

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pumping out the street. Uh we're

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currently working with our DPW and our

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engineer. Uh they have to replace a 20ft

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section of pipe. Okay. And I know that

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residents are concerned because we just

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did a lot of paving up there. The good

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news is we do not have to dig up the

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road. It's all going to be all the work

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is going to be done off the road on a

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person's property. So that that's work

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is pending. Should probably take three

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to four weeks. Also want to congratulate

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the students that took place in the

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junior police academy graduation. I'm

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sure Mr. Saliani is going to have

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something to say about that. Um

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streetscape as you know this governing

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body has been working on the streetscape

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uh for the downtown area. Uh from the

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railroad track all the way up to Oak

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Street. uh our engineers have been

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working on design criteria as we speak.

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We hope to have a presentation sometime

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in either September or October to the

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governing body uh for input from the

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residents of governing body as we move

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forward through this process. Uh the

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drugstore, I know I've talked a couple

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times about the drugstore. Um at this

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time the drugstore, they ran into an

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issue with the roof. They're working

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through engineering issues. Uh once

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that's done, plans should be should be

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submitted. I'm I said last month, but

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they're shooting for the end of this

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month. Let's see what happens once the

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plans get submitted. We'll start seeing

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that the Oakland drugs property get

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rehabilitated into the new Hackinack

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Health. As far as garbage, I know a lot

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of people have been stickered. There's a

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lot of uh uh pain here in town

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concerning the garbage can size. Uh but

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uh the DPW has gone around. They have

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stickered the cans and the last day to

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use cans over 45 will be August 14th. Uh

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then you have to have the smaller can.

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Uh, and the DPW is selling them at a

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discount rate of $20 per can if

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anybody's interested. And with that, concludes my report.

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At this time, I'd like I I invited the

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affordable housing attorney, Mr. Brian

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Giblin, at the end of the the Deis. As

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you know, Oakland is facing a lot of

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challenges with all this affordable

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housing with the McBride property uh

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behind the hardware store and also

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[snorts] behind the high school. I

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thought it was only appropriate to have

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uh Mr. Giblin come forward come here

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today so they can give us and the public

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an update on where we are with the

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affordable housing. I yield to you Mr.

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>> Thank you mayor and I appreciate the

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opportunity to update the council and

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the public as to uh what the status is.

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Um as I'm I'm sure the council and most

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of the public are aware. Uh after we

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filed our declaratory judgment action

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seeking immunity uh from affordable

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housing litigation, there were four

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challenges uh three by developers and

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one by Fairshare Housing Center. Leaving

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aside fair share because they're not

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going to settle until all the other

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developers settle. Uh we have three. We

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have McBride, Leone, and Robber. Um

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going in the order uh McBride is uh a

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site that the uh mayor and council uh

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adopted zoning that they had requested.

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The only issue in that case and the only

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reason we haven't reached a settlement

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with them is because the mayor and

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council would not permit access from

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Paige Drive. Um they subsequently filed

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a motion. I went to court before Judge

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Caristen who is handling the case and

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Judge Carsten said that that decision

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has to be made by the planning board. So

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uh they can make an application uh to

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develop the site. They can have Page

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Road as a proposed um means of ingress

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and egress, but the planning board is

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going to have to approve that after the

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engineering testimony goes in. So uh

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we'll have to leave that to them. the

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Leone site. Um we met with their

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professionals on a couple of occasions.

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They u we were advised that the Leone

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site is essentially a mirror image of

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the LAR site which is just next door.

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However, they're requesting some zoning

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changes to make uh some minor

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modifications to the zoning at the LAR

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site. So we've been going through that

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with uh the burrows professionals to see

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why those changes are necessary and so

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far uh most of them have been necessary.

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Again they're minor in nature and it's

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because of the different topography on

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the site that uh requires it. Uh and

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last is the ropper or roer site. This

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was an approval from uh the third round

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was approved I believe in 2018

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uh in the last round. We're now in the

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fourth round. Um, and the only thing

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that's stopping them from developing the

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site right now is that they don't have

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sewage. Uh, it was supposed to have been

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taken care of by the North Northwest

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Sewer Authority. Uh, they have not put

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in the infrastructure uh to this point.

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Uh, we've had communications with them.

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We recently had a meeting with the um

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NJD

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to find out where we could get excess

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sewage capacity not only for that site

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but for some other existing sites in the

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downtown area and uh they were looking

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for some additional information. our

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engineers are providing that and we will

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get uh together with them again and try

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and work that out so that uh we can

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provide sewage again not just for the

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ropper site to be built but also for

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some existing properties that don't have

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sewage now and the next time we'll be in

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court is September 15th in front of

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Judge Carston.

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>> Thank you. Does anybody from the council

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have any questions for affordable

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housing attorney at this time? if you

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could just uh stay here till after open to the public in case the residents

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have any questions.

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>> At this time, do I have a motion to open

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the public?

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>> So moved.

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>> Do we have a second?

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>> Second.

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>> All in favor?

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>> Anyone from the public wish to address

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the governing body?

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» Hello.

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>> My name is Joan Czech. My address is 18

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Crosby Lane. Tonight I am um here on

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behalf of the open first aid squad. I

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have some things I'd like to bring to

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the attention of the council, of the

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town, a frustration that we've been

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having. Um, we typically in the past

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have adopted maybe burrow um vehicles,

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police cars that have been retired from

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service. Um, part of the problem with

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that has been that they were retired for

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a good reason. They the cost of

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maintenance is high. They are not

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reliable. things you don't want in an

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emergency vehicle. Um, so we decided to

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use squad funds given by our generous

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donors in town to purchase a new vehicle

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that had a warranty. And the way the

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best way for us to purchase it was

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through a municipal

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somebody's got to help me with the word

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here. Co-op.

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>> And part of the rules of those co-ops is

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that it has to be registered to the

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town. I believe it's for a year. I

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didn't participate in this purchase, but

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it's usually for a year. The town has to

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have it licensed to them for a year. Um,

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we bought that vehicle in I think the

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beginning of 2024 was when it was

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finally paid for. Um, and then it was um

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I probably due to our fault as much as

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anybody else's last year, we never

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bothered getting the that transferred.

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I'm kind of a p detailed person

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accountant type. Um, so I decided when I

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became chief, which is the beginning of

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this year, I would see to it that that

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title would be transferred because it's

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a little bit problematic. I mean,

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theoretically, the town could sell it or

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repaint it as a police car if they so

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desired at this point, which is really

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not what we're in the business to do.

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We're 501c3 with our mission. Our

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mission is to provide first aid care,

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not to buy vehicles for Oakland. So, you

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know, we we have a great deal of trust

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in the town, but on the other hand, like

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I said, I'm a detailed person. I want to

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see stuff buttoned up. I'm sure you can

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appreciate that as an attorney. Um, it

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you you don't just leave it even if you

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trust the individuals. And so, this

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year, around February or March, I began

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speaking to people. People in Burough

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Hall have been very responsive, very on

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top of things. Um, it seems to be

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stalling with the attorney. At first, I

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was told that the that they needed to go

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to the attorney to find out how to

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transfer it. And then I kept calling and

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asking. And then I heard that we were

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waiting to have the um the motion

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>> resolution [laughter] I I may be a

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detailed person. I'm not a word person.

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Um have that written for the council um

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to vote on. And that was sort of the end

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of June. I was very disappointed to see

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it not show up on the July agenda. And

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then I heard I happened to run into

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Wendy and she was on top of it. She said

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to me, "It should be on this agenda.

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We're still waiting for the wording."

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And then the agenda came out and it

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wasn't there. And I have questions at

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this point about why that's so

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complicated and and why is this taking

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so long? Because we've done this

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numerous times in the past. granted with

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old junky cars, but you know, we have

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done this. It nobody's had an issue

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doing it. And in any case, um I was

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hoping possibly tonight if it's a simple

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thing that maybe Mr. Gilson would be

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able to come up with something that

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could be voted on. And you know, if not,

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or if there if it's not just going to be

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a straightforward transfer of title for

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the vehicle that we paid for and there's

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something else that's try they're trying

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to get written in there, I would like

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the opportunity to speak to them and I

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will provide you with my contact

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information after this. Um, and that's

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pretty much all I have to say. You know,

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um, we need to get this moving. We need

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to get this done because if the year

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ends without me getting it done, I'm

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going to be very sad.

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>> Thank you. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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Danny Dia, 7 form Road.

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Uh, a couple [clears throat] things

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tonight. First, a very important thing.

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Uh, we must never forget this September

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11th [clears throat] will be 25 years

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since the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and

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a fourth plane headed to Washington DC,

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where courageous patriots took control

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of the plane and crashed it in field in

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Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

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On Friday, September 11th at 6 PM, the

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community of Oakland will hold a

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remembrance ceremony for the 25th

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anniversary of 911 in Veterans Park.

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While the residents and businesses are

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invited to attend, afterwards, there

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will be refreshments available at Pond's

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Church. Let's never forget that day that

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changed America. One month from tonight,

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February, Friday, September 11th, at 6

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p.m. in Veterans Park. All are invited

437
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and welcome to please attend this

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important moving ceremony. Let's make it

439
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it's something that never should be

440
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forgotten and it's getting forgotten by

441
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a lot of people. So just remember

442
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Friday, September 11th, 6:00 Veterans

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Park. It's going to be a real nice

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ceremony. We're still working on it.

445
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We've had two meetings. We got another

446
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two meetings coming up and it's going to

447
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be good. All right, a couple other

448
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,039
things.

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sidewalk along 202 South between the

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cleaners

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and the Exxon station. All right.

452
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There's two white lines that used to be

453
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painted there. They're faded. All right.

454
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They used to be painted every year.

455
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There's a restaurant in that parking lot

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has valet parking.

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the valet parking on Friday, Saturday

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nights, sometimes Sunday nights,

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sometimes Thursday nights, they park

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them right out to 202,

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right out to the edge of 202. People

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walking either they got to weave through

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the cars or they walk in 202.

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Uh it's amazing nobody got hit yet.

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>> All right, so I think we should go back

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to painting those lines and maybe

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enforcing no parking on the sidewalk.

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>> All right, at that place. And even if

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you had to get an emergency vehicle in

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there, you're parked on 202. You're

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blocking 202 with emergency vehicles.

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All right. Uh what two other things I

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see under the paving list is Senica A.

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Why are we paying for Senica AB when

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public service ripped it up?

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>> Mr. Cos,

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>> did we do some trading? I think that was

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one of the ways that we swapped off with

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another road or you know full um curb to

480
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curb on another road if memory.

481
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>> Yeah. So it just it seemed weird that

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public service came in and paved all the

483
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roads they dug up.

484
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>> Right. So what we do is we do horse

485
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trading on the back end so we can get

486
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more bang for the buck.

487
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>> Fine.

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>> All right. And then the last thing I got

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All right. Uh last meeting there was

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resolution number 233 on the agenda. It

491
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was introduced by you Mr. mayor and it

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was not brought the motion was made and

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it wasn't brought forward. All right.

494
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Now,

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>> I can't bring a resolution forward.

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>> Right. The council didn't bring it

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forward.

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>> All right. Now, looking at the gender,

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it's for $83,500.

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Looking at the agenda for this meeting,

501
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it's back on as resolution 248.

502
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It's the same resolution as 233 with

503
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some word changes.

504
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Is this a new way that we do stuff here

505
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to spend $83,500

506
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that if it don't work it don't pass the

507
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,200
first time, we keep try try again after

508
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every meeting for the next couple of

509
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meetings. Totally. See if it passes. I

510
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:27,279
don't think that's a good way to spend

511
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taxpayer money. All right. Thanks.

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» Next person.

513
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You go. Okay. [clears throat]

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Everybody, Will Lensetti, 23 Chickasaw.

515
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I want to talk a little bit about value,

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what we get from savings. When I was,

517
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you know, I sometimes have a little bit

518
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of a long commute and I think too much,

519
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,960
but some of this sort of bothered me.

520
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,720
$250 a year savings per household.

521
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That's for over the life of the

522
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:02,480
contract. That's 6250 a year. That comes

523
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,519
out to like we're saving a$120 with this

524
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,000
new garbage contract.

525
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,840
So that also got me thinking, you know,

526
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760
when my kids were little, they learned a

527
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,840
lesson about value. You know, when

528
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,480
they're no gave them some money, you

529
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,760
know, we took them to the dollar store.

530
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,200
I would always say thinking like, no, we

531
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shouldn't do this. But then I'm thinking

532
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,919
like, no, let them learn because some

533
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:23,360
things you can't teach. They need to

534
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,120
learn. So when they bought these toys

535
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600
for a dollar and they broke and they

536
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600
cried, it didn't take them long to

537
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,679
realize that some things are worth value

538
00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:33,919
and that there is a value to the dollar.

539
00:32:33,919 --> 00:32:36,799
So for a $120 thinking maybe maybe the

540
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,120
mayor and council in the DBW instead of

541
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,279
driving around looking at people's trash

542
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,200
bins to see if they were oversized maybe

543
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,320
they should have gone to the dollar

544
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,799
store first. I mean looking saying, "Oh,

545
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,159
this one's too big. This one's just

546
00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:50,000
right." Like some sort of garbage can

547
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Goldilocks looking around here. I I mean

548
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,600
really. So

549
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,519
what is value? Like are we getting a

550
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,159
value from this for the service? Also

551
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,880
knowing that a third of the town now

552
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,519
needs to buy new cans. You know, that's

553
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,279
what that's what you all said. 30% of

554
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,720
the town needs to buy new cans. So, are

555
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,519
we getting the value for that? I'm not

556
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,080
sure. I'm not sure we are or not. But

557
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,679
when I also looked at it, and I'm

558
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:18,960
thinking about this from the value

559
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,279
perspective, like people have cans of

560
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:22,640
different sizes. Everyone's got a

561
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,559
different size can. You know, some are

562
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,159
oversized. Lay down the street from me.

563
00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:28,000
She's got huge cans. didn't seem to

564
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,519
bother the other guards, man.

565
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:33,440
Sorry, I'm just making some fun on this

566
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440
for what it is. But, you know, we can

567
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,279
take it a little further. Let's let's educate our kids. Let's start a

568
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,880
web page about value and then we can get

569
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,279
all the cost savings, the old contract,

570
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,919
the new contract, the interimm contract,

571
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:50,240
what the actual costs are. Let's put

572
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240
them on the page and let's outweigh them

573
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,360
with what people spent on garbage cans

574
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,640
initially, the ones that they're

575
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,480
throwing out, what they're spending on

576
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,720
new garbage cans, and what the savings

577
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,320
are. You know, maybe we call it, you

578
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,039
know, kids corner with kumala and coons

579
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,120
and cans. You know, we could have you

580
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,280
guys in like [applause] Compton

581
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200
regulation cans, but you can't be green.

582
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,240
I think there's some copyright

583
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:14,560
infringements there. But we could talk

584
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,560
about that. We can give the lessons on

585
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,720
values. And then speaking of green,

586
00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:20,720
let's talk about what are we doing with

587
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:22,159
all these old cans. I mean, you all told

588
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,800
them to throw them out. I mean, Christ

589
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,800
sakes, plastic is the OG forever

590
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,040
chemical. You know, that's they're now

591
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,040
in garbage bins. They're they're they're

592
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,079
in waste. They're in landfills.

593
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,320
>> You know, why? Why?

594
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,399
>> You know, it just doesn't make sense to

595
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,119
me. You know, at the end of the day, I

596
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,639
think what really bothers me about this

597
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:46,720
more is more and more between the police

598
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:49,200
not having a contract for over a year,

599
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,720
it's like 14 months or something like

600
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:54,560
that with this garbage deal with Pmpton,

601
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,159
you know, with the fact that it seems

602
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,240
like we can't manage development in our

603
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,440
town that all we do is we bring people

604
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,079
in to tell us what we can't do. Like,

605
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,599
why don't we bring people in to tell us

606
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,160
what we can? I mean, that's what we

607
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,920
really need.

608
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,359
You know, end of the day, that sign's

609
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:13,119
going to once say, you know, once there

610
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,079
was trees all over this place

611
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,160
after, you know, the thing by by hills.

612
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,320
I mean, that that's a debacle. It's a

613
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,720
monstrosity. It's it's an abomination

614
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:24,480
what they did to these that piece of

615
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,560
land. I'll be honest with you, that 30-

616
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,720
foot high retaining wall. How many trees

617
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,560
did they cut down? You know, I cut a

618
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,240
tree down in my yard and I have Ranger

619
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,119
Rick from the the shade tree on my ass

620
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,880
to pay $250 to plant a new tree.

621
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,240
you know, where were all the trees from

622
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,000
there? I mean, they should be replaced,

623
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,520
right? Unless you're considering the

624
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,040
lumber they used to build. Well, that

625
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,280
was a tree

626
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,480
>> really. I mean, you know, at the end of

627
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,800
the day, too, you know, I want to talk

628
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,280
what really bothers me about this. Look,

629
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520
I'm all for savings and all that, but to

630
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,640
be honest, taxes. Like, my taxes are

631
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,119
estimated to go up 13 and a half%. The

632
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,680
majority of was from what this council

633
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,240
passed. That budget increase was from

634
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,640
what that my tax has gone up. I'm going

635
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,839
to save $62.50 a year. You know what? Am

636
00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,800
I going to get a Mickey D gift card?

637
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,880
How am I going to get that money back? I

638
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,200
tell you, 13.5% of my taxes a hell of a

639
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,599
lot more than 6250 a year. So, I really lack confidence in this

640
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:26,000
council, in this administration. I think

641
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,160
people need to be held accountable. You

642
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,839
know, you all be thinking people saying

643
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:31,680
out there, people at home saying, "Who's

644
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,760
this guy talking trash?" You know, well,

645
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,400
I'm not. I think a lot of people at home

646
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,920
believe in what I say. They're they're

647
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,359
nodding their heads. They're agreeing

648
00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:41,040
with me. They're saying that this town

649
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,000
is going in the wrong direction. So, I

650
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:44,960
think people need to be held

651
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,359
accountable. So, I think to start Mr.

652
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,760
Couns being the mastermind of that uh

653
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,520
that deal, you know, I think you should

654
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,000
be canned. Yeah.

655
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,680
>> And then, you know, come November, let's

656
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,040
see what the voters figure out what to

657
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,720
do with garbage.

658
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,475
>> Thank you.

659
00:37:00,475 --> 00:37:07,750
[applause]

660
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Uh Steve Penosian,

661
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:11,680
Oakland, about to say my address. I

662
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,359
can't remember.

663
00:37:13,359 --> 00:37:14,720
>> Glen Greg. Got it.

664
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,760
>> Okay. Glen Gray. Um before I start my

665
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,960
dissertation, I uh have a document that

666
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,720
I'd like to give to Wendy.

667
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,200
>> Mr. Mayor, it's okay. I'd like this to

668
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680
be entered into the minutes. And then uh

669
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,119
there's a lot of questions here and I'd

670
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,200
like to have a followup

671
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,119
>> from the town on who I can sit with to

672
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:39,349
go through everything.

673
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:41,599
» I do have a couple of comments and a

674
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:43,119
couple of questions. So I hope I can do

675
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,440
it under three minutes.

676
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Um I wasn't here for about a month. Um

677
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,119
and I apologize if I'm bringing

678
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,960
something up that may or may not be

679
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,960
popular, but uh I've done the last

680
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,440
um public statement. I I think it's

681
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,240
appropriate. While I was gone, I had to

682
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,079
make arrangements with family and

683
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,520
neighbors to take my garbage out. And um

684
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,839
I do have a monitor cam that I can see

685
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:13,119
things going on. And uh all I can say is

686
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,760
my garbage and recycle pickup experience

687
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
um whether it was remotely or last week

688
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,920
and this week has been positive. I

689
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,760
haven't had a problem, but I must say

690
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680
that we're among the people, and I've

691
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,680
lived here for 40 years, that we didn't

692
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,599
have a problem with the container size.

693
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,160
We complied. We just simply complied.

694
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,440
Um, we followed that directive or that

695
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440
guideline for the 40 years that we've

696
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,880
lived here.

697
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,119
>> Last week, I I placed furniture in a

698
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:45,920
mattress and it followed the guideline

699
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,640
and it was picked up. So, you know, I

700
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,000
got to thank whoever um nothing changed

701
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,480
in our in our experience and um uh the

702
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,640
only opinion that I have is um my

703
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,839
observation uh the pickup people were young. They appeared energetic and

704
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:06,640
um I went out to say hello and they're a

705
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,440
very respectful team.

706
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Regarding the third of the town that was

707
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
frustrated with the service transition,

708
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160
clearly uh I understand from listening

709
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560
to Mr. Coons. Um I think it was the last

710
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,640
meeting. You explained what the

711
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
objective was and I think it went over

712
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,400
everybody's head or maybe everybody

713
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,760
understood it but didn't want to accept

714
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,119
it including one of the council people.

715
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,720
A third of the town was frustrated with

716
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:33,200
the service transition. Clearly the

717
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,359
primary objective was to save money. But

718
00:39:35,359 --> 00:39:38,720
I think what everybody has overlooked is

719
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,640
that

720
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
twothirds of the town over the last 10

721
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,200
years, the $30,000 average increased

722
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
based on 300% increase over the last 10

723
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,839
years. We've been subsidizing and paying

724
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:54,079
for the liberties or whatever you want

725
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:56,480
to call it, the out of compliance people

726
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
or residents in our town with cans that

727
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,760
were oversized.

728
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,440
It's it's a perspective, but that's the

729
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,280
way I look at it. I had to pay for it

730
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,599
and that the other twothirds of the town

731
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,520
had to pay for that and I got a

732
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,040
different perspective on it that'll come

733
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,119
up easily.

734
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,599
The unsustainable 30% average cost to

735
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,599
year the past contractor I my opinion

736
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,960
working in a world where

737
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,359
negotiation even after a contract

738
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:28,560
agreement continued. this $60 per

739
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,839
household. I believe that was debate

740
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:35,280
that was an offer to get us to go in and

741
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,640
now argue about was it worth saving $60

742
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560
a year. It isn't $60 a year. That was

743
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,440
debate. My opinion the switch would have

744
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,320
been after if we would accepted that. We

745
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,760
would have slowly seen over the next

746
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,560
couple two, three, four, five years, it

747
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,079
would have crept up to double digit

748
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,560
increases, no different than it had for

749
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,160
the last 10 years. I don't care what

750
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,160
anybody says. Excuse me. Supposed to be

751
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,079
directing it at you. So that that is uh

752
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,800
a a fact that I look at and the other

753
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,240
simple one, one bidder. I don't know if

754
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,240
that's a problem with with everybody,

755
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,839
but that's that that's the telltale uh

756
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:15,760
of this whole issue. So here's my

757
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,920
questions and and this is the

758
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,079
conclusion. I would like to know what

759
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:21,760
the cost and ranking of the removal

760
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,800
service line as an expense to the town

761
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,560
and if it can be translated to an

762
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,000
average household cost per property

763
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,680
taxpayer of of that what is the removal

764
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000
budget

765
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,880
per household as a percentage of of the

766
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,800
total. So, example, if I pay $1,000 a

767
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:50,000
year in taxes, um, and the, um,

768
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,079
it's 50 bucks or 60 bucks, that that's

769
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,480
5%. I I'd like to understand as a line

770
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,720
item for the total town budget, if it's

771
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,640
23 million, I don't know what it is. I

772
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,720
think I know what it is, but I want it

773
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,839
here uh, officially on record what it is

774
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:06,319
and what percentage is is the disposal

775
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:09,680
service uh, uh, as a percentage. The

776
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,599
second cost and ranking is of our town's

777
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:18,000
budget. What is the total to lease total

778
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,520
police line item as a ranking and a

779
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,560
percentage of the town's annual budget?

780
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,960
And that could be with or without uh

781
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,880
healthcare. And I understand we treat

782
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,599
healthcare a little differently, but I

783
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:32,960
want to know if that's number one. I

784
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,280
think it's the first highest one. and if the average

785
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,640
forget about what I think it is. I want

786
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,240
to hear what the answer is and if it's

787
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,880
the number one top expense

788
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,720
and then where does that go? I got two

789
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:49,030
uh additional comments

790
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,480
in the spirit of um

791
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,400
transparency.

792
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,079
If it's assumed that the number one line

793
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:01,359
item cost is the police expense

794
00:43:01,359 --> 00:43:04,640
and it's a good chunk of change. So, if

795
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,520
I pay $10,000 in taxes and 30% goes to

796
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,200
town and that's 3,000 bucks and if

797
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,560
$1,100 of that is it goes to the police

798
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,640
uh department budgeting.

799
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Um spending whatever it is $85,000 a

800
00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:23,520
year, $83,000 a year by the total number

801
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
of households. It's a couple of bucks to

802
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,839
make sure that we have a third-party uh

803
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:33,280
review of the way our police department

804
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,000
operates and and I'm I 100% support our

805
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,240
police department. I would just like to

806
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,720
know that everything that we have in

807
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,599
place today organizationally, process,

808
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,200
procedures,

809
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,000
uh before we hire anybody or install a

810
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,319
new police chief, I think we ought to

811
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,920
align on uh what's expected today and

812
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,599
looking down the road two, three, four,

813
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,240
five years so we make the right hires

814
00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,359
and and put the right job descriptions

815
00:44:03,359 --> 00:44:05,839
or objectives uh that we would want to

816
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,480
support uh our new police chief. And it

817
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,319
kind of echoes what you have said, Mr.

818
00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:13,599
Mayor. Um, and out of the corporate

819
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:14,960
world, I've worked for two Asian

820
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,119
companies, one Sony, 15 years, and

821
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,760
Samsung, 24 years. I'm sure everybody

822
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,920
knows they're worldclass corporations.

823
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,400
They were way ahead of the curve on many

824
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,000
things.

825
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,040
And I got to tell you, um, we always,

826
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,880
and I I always worked at senior

827
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960
management to help reorganization,

828
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,760
re-engineering, and process improvement.

829
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,640
And we always laid these things out and

830
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,680
did reviews before we made a change so

831
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,200
that we would then backfill uh all these

832
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,079
new uh job wrecks and then also all the

833
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:50,400
new processes to improve everything

834
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,640
about the organization to meet our

835
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,119
overall objectives and that was to uh

836
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,880
build the business and and do it

837
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,040
profitably. And then the last comment

838
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,359
that I would make in the spirit of

839
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:03,920
transparency, which is a word that I

840
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
can't stand because it's so misused, but

841
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,960
it also works both ways. Transparency

842
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960
and our expectation of a governing body,

843
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,800
and I've said this to the board of ed as

844
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,800
well, uh to Ramipo. Um but there needs

845
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,359
to be transparency on the public side

846
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:22,480
too. What is your motivation? What's

847
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,400
really behind what you're doing? Are you

848
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,599
here to ruffle feathers and and stir the

849
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:29,839
pot the wrong way and create issues? I

850
00:45:29,839 --> 00:45:31,680
think we've got a great town. There's no

851
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,480
nothing negative about it and a past

852
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,560
council person said it best. I think in

853
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,880
an interview that's online

854
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,119
um that we do great when we all work

855
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,040
together. So, in the spirit of this

856
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,119
transparency and supporting our police

857
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,760
department, I hate like hell to put one

858
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,520
of the councilman on on the spot here,

859
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,119
but I got a ton of other questions, but

860
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,760
I just simply want to know

861
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,319
If you're 100% and you ran on supporting

862
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:58,880
the police and there's signs all around

863
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,720
in the town supporting our police

864
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,200
department to support our police, why

865
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,319
would you vote no on the contract?

866
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:14,630
And I'd like to hear the reason why.

867
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,359
And that vote note occurred at the last

868
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:19,200
mayor and council meeting back in July.

869
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,240
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

870
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,400
>> Thank you.

871
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,440
No traffic, right?

872
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,000
>> Good evening. My name is Phil Murphy.

873
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,000
I'm 40-year resident. I live in 28

874
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,680
Saratoga Drive. Um, former head coach at

875
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,960
Indian Hills [clears throat] for 15

876
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,200
years. Been involved in a lot of things

877
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,040
in town. In fact, I ran for council in

878
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,280
1992. I lost. Thank God. Um,

879
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,720
>> it gets tough at times.

880
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,040
>> And I and I appreciate what you guys do.

881
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
I really do. Um, I love this town. I

882
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,680
don't plan on going anywhere. Um, so I'm

883
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,599
very happy here. You guys got a tough

884
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,200
challenge. I think you guys made a big

885
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,800
mistake. Okay, you heard two people

886
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,480
already mention one gentleman went

887
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,920
online. I'm not going to talk too much

888
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,960
about it, but I'm so angry about this

889
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,800
issue with the garbage that you just

890
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,079
have no idea. Um, it has changed my life

891
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:11,920
dramatically, even though it's a simple

892
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480
thing. I work all week. I come home. I

893
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,160
take care of my own lawn. I throw a lot

894
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,839
of pride in my house. How it looks. It's

895
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:21,040
got a flag. It's beautiful. This is what

896
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,560
happens when you have new garbage

897
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,440
people. They leave your cans so they

898
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,480
burn your lawn.

899
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,040
>> Nice.

900
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,640
>> Okay. That never happened in all the

901
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,480
time we had roselli. They were amazing.

902
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,880
Okay. They change the time they pick up

903
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,440
the grass. The grass gets picked up on

904
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Thursday. How many of you own a pool?

905
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,319
Two of you, right?

906
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:44,800
>> Yeah.

907
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,040
>> When do you get it cleaned?

908
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,560
>> On Monday. Tuesday.

909
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,079
>> Friday.

910
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:53,599
[clears throat]

911
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,440
My grass sits in my cans and I want to

912
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,440
know which one of you guys is going to

913
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,280
come over to my house after they've

914
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,040
emptied it and clean them out. It is a

915
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,240
pain in the ass. So, my wife with a

916
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,599
great idea. She said, "Well, why don't

917
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,920
you buy the PL? Now I got to buy paper

918
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040
bags to put my garbage in, my grass

919
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,359
clippings in, so I can throw them out

920
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:17,119
and not have to clean my garbage cans

921
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,800
for 10 minutes on a Thursday night in

922
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,599
the dark. The timing of their pickup is

923
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,599
terrible. We used to have our garbage

924
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,599
picked up by the time I left for work at

925
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:27,680
7 a.m. I go to work every day at 7 a.m.

926
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,520
By the way, I buy and sell businesses

927
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,440
for a living. I'm an M&A specialist.

928
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,760
It's what I do for a living. And to save

929
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,319
a million4 over five years is peanuts.

930
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:41,760
I pay $27 a month for Netflix and it's

931
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,559
$6 a month for the savings that we have

932
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,960
for a major quality of life issue. I

933
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,640
don't know who thought about this,

934
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,200
really thought about this issue, but I

935
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,040
have to tell you it was really not well

936
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,359
thought out because I'm more than happy

937
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:58,000
to pay $6 to have my trash picked up.

938
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,319
I've already now had to go on a s on a

939
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:03,200
Saturday to drop off my grass clippings.

940
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Last Saturday, I kind of snuck in

941
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,760
because I didn't have my my decal. I'm

942
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,359
not even sure how to get it yet.

943
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,440
Probably get it right there. But this is

944
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839
a real quality of life issue for a very

945
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:16,960
small savings that does not any way

946
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,760
compensate us. I actually spend more. I

947
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,280
spend $8 a month for my bags and I save

948
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,760
six. Where's the math in that? It's just

949
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640
a It's just a bad move. And somebody

950
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
please, you have to either go back to

951
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,520
these people with this contract and say

952
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,280
we have to be fair about what our at

953
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
least our delivery of the service is

954
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,240
when we get pickups if it can move

955
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:41,760
around. It sounds to me and I haven't

956
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,839
looked at this too deeply, but it sounds

957
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:45,520
to me like Pomp and Lakes got the better

958
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,319
end of this that they get their pickup

959
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:51,520
when they want theirs. We got the scraps

960
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,160
or at least if we can modify this so we

961
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,240
all share in the bad days and we have

962
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,400
some good days. If I have to do this

963
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,319
through through Thursday stuff much

964
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:02,880
longer. I'm pretty upset about it. I

965
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,240
haven't been to a council meeting. I

966
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,920
can't remember.

967
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,599
But I got off my run to come here

968
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,400
tonight just to tell you that. And I

969
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,760
appreciate the comments that you

970
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,119
gentlemen made. There's a couple of you

971
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,119
that made comments about this. And based

972
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,599
on based on the social media on this

973
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,839
issue, I waited six weeks to see what

974
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:22,960
would happen. This was the last draw.

975
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,640
So, I hope you guys will take my

976
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,880
comments and do something with them

977
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,960
because this has to change. It's just

978
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,359
not a good deal for anyone. And as far

979
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:32,880
as I'm concerned, the quality of life

980
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,760
issue for Oakland, we all lost. It's too

981
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,680
bad. You guys do a great job. This one

982
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,545
was a loser. Thank you very much.

983
00:50:40,545 --> 00:50:46,790
[applause]

984
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,240
Eric Hotch, 26 Rugies Drive.

985
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,119
I'm here today to tell you that I don't

986
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:56,240
think there's any savings that uh the

987
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,885
old company that they picked up the

988
00:50:58,885 --> 00:51:00,720
[clears throat] day after a holiday.

989
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:02,319
They're not picking up now the new

990
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:05,200
company after a holiday. Also, there are

991
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,040
more additional holidays that they are

992
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,720
taking. So there's probably at least

993
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,599
another 15 days in a year that we're not

994
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,000
getting pickup. There's your savings if

995
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,200
not no savings at all. So we're missing

996
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,440
out. Number two, when they pick up

997
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520
garbage, I have one of those flip top

998
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,280
lids. All they need to do, the other

999
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,839
company always close the lid. They leave

1000
00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:27,920
them open or they leave it not laying

1001
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,920
down on the floor. If it's raining that

1002
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,559
day, I got to tip over that pail and

1003
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,800
empty out the water.

1004
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,800
That never happened before. Mhm.

1005
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040
>> Also, the fact with these smaller cans,

1006
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,720
if you use them, the lids are not

1007
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:43,520
attached. On a windy day, you got to go

1008
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160
chase your uh lid four or five houses

1009
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,720
down. The smaller pales are also round.

1010
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,119
They roll all the way down the block.

1011
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,079
That's why I bought the bigger cans. Two

1012
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,119
years ago, I bought two big cans. Now,

1013
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:00,240
they're almost like $90 to $100 a can.

1014
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:01,760
I'm out that money. Now, you're telling

1015
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,079
me I got to spend more. That's not

1016
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,440
right. It's also cleaner because they

1017
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,119
don't blow down even during the wind.

1018
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:12,160
So, you're not going to have your

1019
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480
garbage floating down the street and the

1020
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,200
animals to eat them. Now, these animals,

1021
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,359
they could just even the birds, they fly

1022
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:20,960
right in because you don't have the lid

1023
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,880
because I don't want to chase my uh

1024
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,319
garbage all the way down the block and

1025
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,160
they're picking the garbage out and the

1026
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,559
squirrels and the raccoons.

1027
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,720
>> I haven't had bears, but I'm sure

1028
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,960
they're there, too.

1029
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,109
That's it. Thank you, Mr. [applause]

1030
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:40,800
» Kathy Graph. Um, we're talking about

1031
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,280
savings.

1032
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,480
>> I'm sorry. What is your name, ma'am?

1033
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,079
>> Kathy Graph.

1034
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:46,000
>> Um, we're talking about savings and I'm

1035
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,240
wondering, um, who's paying for our DPWs

1036
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,240
overtime that they're putting in so much

1037
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,680
overtime doing

1038
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,599
>> the other work. So, where is that

1039
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,760
savings coming from? And someone said to

1040
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,040
me when I said I was coming tonight,

1041
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,319
they said they saw um a garbage truck

1042
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:04,319
that wasn't the ones that we bought.

1043
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:06,000
They're going through Oakland. How did

1044
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,200
they get there? And what are they doing?

1045
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,160
>> You mean they were

1046
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,160
>> They said they said it wasn't the usual

1047
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,480
garbage trucks that the men are using.

1048
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,680
>> So they said, you know, how did that

1049
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,599
come [clears throat] into effect? I I I

1050
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:16,800
didn't see it myself. This is someone

1051
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,040
else.

1052
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,839
>> I'm just trying to understand the

1053
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:18,079
question.

1054
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:19,520
>> Yeah. No, I didn't see it. My main my

1055
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,079
main question is who's paying the money

1056
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,000
for the DPW when they go out and they're

1057
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,680
doing the jobs that isn't being

1058
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,359
performed by the original contract, you

1059
00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:29,440
know, the the garbage people. Who's

1060
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,040
paying for that? And where's the savings

1061
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:39,190
in that? Especially in overtime,

1062
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,520
» Elizabeth Buchcci,

1063
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,839
I have a couple things to say. I always

1064
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:44,880
have a couple things to say.

1065
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,319
>> What street do you live on?

1066
00:53:46,319 --> 00:53:48,559
>> I live on Valley View Avenue. Thank you.

1067
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,319
>> Okay. Um,

1068
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:54,079
my first thing is nothing to do with

1069
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:55,920
anything that's been talked about here.

1070
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,160
I was wondering how we are proceeding.

1071
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,680
You know, is anything proceeding with

1072
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,520
the Tangle property? Are we still

1073
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,119
interested? Did they sell it to somebody

1074
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,000
else or is that still moving forward?

1075
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:06,640
>> Yeah.

1076
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,440
>> Perfect. Okay.

1077
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,599
Um, at the last meeting, Mr. Coons said

1078
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:15,280
that he was going to be talking to

1079
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Compton about moving that rubbish day.

1080
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,440
>> How far have we gotten on that?

1081
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,640
>> So, we're going to take let everybody

1082
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,839
speak and then he's going to be able to

1083
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,359
address the questions.

1084
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:26,390
>> Um,

1085
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:33,750
my biggest complaint is the optics.

1086
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,920
As council people, I know it's not an

1087
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,599
easy job and it's not one that I would

1088
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:40,880
want to do, but sometimes you seem to

1089
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,359
miss the whole boat on listening to

1090
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:45,760
people.

1091
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,359
For every person that's going to

1092
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:48,720
complain about the garbage, you're going

1093
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:49,599
to have somebody who has a good

1094
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,160
experience. My area of town, we have no

1095
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,520
problem. So, I don't know if it's maybe

1096
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,079
a Heights area or Manito area, but I,

1097
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:58,640
you know, I I live off of West Oakland.

1098
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,040
We've had no issues. And as far as the

1099
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,359
lids and not lids, I half the time

1100
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:04,559
they're in the street, half the time

1101
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,559
they're on my lawn. The lids, I can't

1102
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:08,000
tell you how many times the garbage have

1103
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,079
taken them. One time they even took my

1104
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:11,599
whole garbage can. I had to replace it.

1105
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,160
And you know, it happens. It's

1106
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,359
everybody's either going to have a good

1107
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:17,119
bad experience.

1108
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,240
But at the last meeting,

1109
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:22,960
Matt said he was going to look into

1110
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:28,000
having the town use your power to see

1111
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160
about buying garbage cans that we can

1112
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,839
purchase.

1113
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:34,319
That's great, except that you didn't

1114
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:37,599
listen to what was being asked. We're

1115
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:41,760
not asking for those dumb ass um cans.

1116
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,599
We're asking to replace something that

1117
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,640
will function. We want a 45gallon. We

1118
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,559
want it with wheels. We want it that the

1119
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,839
lids go up and down. Not that can. That

1120
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:54,640
is a horrible thing. And I was really

1121
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,119
pissed off

1122
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,839
at being getting the snotty emails that

1123
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:01,280
have gone come out with it. And I'm

1124
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,040
sorry the tone on those emails. I don't

1125
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,200
know who's proofing those emails, but

1126
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,640
you really should have somebody looking

1127
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,839
at them. They're a little snotty. It's

1128
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,559
not a reminder if you've never told us.

1129
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,520
Nobody knew that the DPW was selling

1130
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,119
garbage cans. We knew about the recycle

1131
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,240
cans, but not garbage cans. I went down,

1132
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,400
I took a picture, I told them. I put it

1133
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,000
online.

1134
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,640
I shouldn't have to do that. And to then

1135
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,240
for the next day, the town would come

1136
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,000
out and say, "It's a reminder." It's not

1137
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,200
a reminder. You never told us.

1138
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,319
Okay? I said, "Spoon feed us. Give us

1139
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:41,680
optics. Give us graphics.

1140
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,400
I think we'll be happy if you just

1141
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,789
listen to what we're asking.

1142
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:51,280
Our website is a disaster. Half the

1143
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,119
links on that don't work. I know they

1144
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,480
said we're going to be doing something,

1145
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,640
but I I was looking at a business plan

1146
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,240
that is on there from Mayor Zbo. Why?

1147
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,079
Though, I have to say I did like his

1148
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:05,200
vision. It looked really nice. But why

1149
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,119
is it still on the website? How many

1150
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:10,240
mayors ago was he? You know,

1151
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:11,680
um

1152
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,559
>> three more things. Three quick things.

1153
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,160
Uh, this hasn't brought up here, but it

1154
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,520
was brought up at the last meeting. And

1155
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,280
again, I'm saying optics.

1156
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,640
There's been more and more of people

1157
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,599
asking for that. So, second public

1158
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:29,040
session, speaking session. I don't see

1159
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,359
why it was removed. I don't see what

1160
00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:35,280
skin off the council's nose for letting

1161
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,280
the people that come here have a second

1162
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,119
time to speak up if they have a

1163
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:40,720
question. Now, I do realize that at

1164
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,760
times we've had people who have

1165
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,440
questioned, you've opened it up, they've

1166
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,559
asked their question, and we've closed

1167
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,520
it again. But from many times that I've

1168
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,359
come when that second session's around,

1169
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,040
more often than not, nobody's nobody's

1170
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,599
getting up to talk. So, why remove it?

1171
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,520
Let us be happy. Give us that second

1172
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,119
session so that we feel like you're

1173
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:00,480
listening to us. Okay? And that goes

1174
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,000
into my third thing that I'm talking

1175
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,040
about. The last meeting, that anilotti

1176
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,640
contract went nowhere. Why is it back on

1177
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,280
the docket? It should not be there. I

1178
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,119
know we're getting a new police chief. I

1179
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:16,480
don't know if he's been appointed, not

1180
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,000
appointed. The town never tells us

1181
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,520
anything. I didn't even know we lost the

1182
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,559
old chief. Um,

1183
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,920
but why not let him come in and see

1184
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,319
what's going on before we second guess

1185
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:30,960
and undermine what he's doing? That

1186
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,520
contract. Honestly,

1187
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,760
you talk to people, and I know I

1188
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,760
probably shouldn't say this, but you're

1189
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,960
hearing that there's a taint with

1190
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,680
McCann. People don't like it. They don't

1191
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,760
like him. I think they spoke very well

1192
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,920
when voting him out. There was a lot of

1193
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,559
objection to him, and it smacks that

1194
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,440
he's behind that contract. It's a lot of

1195
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,599
money for the town to pay out for an

1196
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,680
assessment that may not be needed. Let's

1197
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,079
let the new chief come in, see what's

1198
00:58:58,079 --> 00:58:59,680
going on, and a year from now, you'll

1199
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,000
look at it and see what's going on.

1200
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,160
And my last point, see I made notes

1201
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,880
today. Um, I'm with the Oakland

1202
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,319
Historical Society and we are doing lots

1203
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:12,000
of programs. We have a new board.

1204
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,000
There's a lot of uh programs,

1205
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,599
presentations,

1206
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:18,400
things going on. Uh, Saturday we will be

1207
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,000
having our membership meeting at the

1208
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400
library downstairs. We would like to

1209
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,119
have the public come join us, see what

1210
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:27,680
we're doing, see how you can help. Um,

1211
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,240
the town will be celebrating 125 years

1212
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,680
next year. We really would like to have

1213
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,920
a nice celebration. The society is also

1214
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,000
celebrating its 60th year and we're

1215
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,319
doing a retrospective to see how the

1216
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:40,160
society has served the town in those 60

1217
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,799
years. So that's my plate. Thank you.

1218
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:45,040
>> Thank you, Mr. Duch.

1219
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,880
Anybody else?

1220
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,520
>> I thought I was done. Okay.

1221
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,640
>> Have you say my name again?

1222
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,440
>> Yep.

1223
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,640
>> Kirk Cotch, 26 Rockies Drive.

1224
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200
Also, the fact I looked up garbage size

1225
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,119
cans on uh Google and it says that a

1226
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:05,359
35gallon can is good for a small it's is

1227
01:00:05,359 --> 01:00:06,960
considered small and it's good for one

1228
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,640
to two people in a household.

1229
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Okay. Then it leaves out between 35 and

1230
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,799
45. But med medium is 64 to 65 gallon.

1231
01:00:16,799 --> 01:00:18,559
And that's considered mid-range or

1232
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:21,200
standard. And it's the option for the

1233
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,799
average family. I think we're all

1234
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,319
average families here.

1235
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:27,119
>> Not small, maybe large, but maybe not

1236
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:28,559
too large, but you could get another

1237
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,880
camp for them if you're large. And then

1238
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,359
the large is what you described at last

1239
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,119
council meeting where you said that was

1240
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:36,880
a municipal that has a lift and

1241
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,280
whatever. They're considering that 95 to

1242
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,640
96 gallons. So that statement was to me

1243
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,799
wasn't correct

1244
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:47,200
according to this.

1245
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,920
Also, you said that you followed the

1246
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,000
garbage trucks after or during their uh

1247
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,520
pickup.

1248
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,520
You ever see their recycling where they

1249
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,920
pick up the bottles and the cans when

1250
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,240
they dump it and it's full and they're

1251
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,000
ready to get that crusher, the

1252
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,720
hydraulic, they take the pales that they

1253
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,799
just emptied, both of them, and they try

1254
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:11,440
to hold the stuff back into the truck

1255
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,160
because the compactor would push it out.

1256
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,720
and I actually saw garbage fallen to the

1257
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,720
ground. There's bottles in there.

1258
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,079
There's glass. And then they went and

1259
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:21,680
picked it up. So, they're talking about

1260
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,440
safety when they reach into a pale and

1261
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,359
they might get cut. I think there's a

1262
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:26,880
greater chance of them getting cut when

1263
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,240
they're picking up the glass from the

1264
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,960
street if they pick it all up.

1265
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,589
>> Thank you.

1266
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:39,680
» I'm going for

1267
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:40,640
rolling thunder now.

1268
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,680
>> You made the effort. Rolling Thunder.

1269
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,839
780 Rama Pabelli Road. Andrea Lee, I got

1270
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,280
two things. Since we don't have the

1271
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,160
second time to come up here and share, I

1272
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,079
will share uh from the arts committee.

1273
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:55,680
Just something to get out there. We do

1274
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,559
have a concert this Saturday. Yay.

1275
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:01,359
Right. Thank you. Uh from 3 to 8:00 p.m.

1276
01:02:01,359 --> 01:02:03,839
So, I I do hope that the community comes

1277
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,480
out and to support because really if we

1278
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:07,680
don't get the support from the

1279
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,280
community, it's gonna go away. We're not

1280
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,280
going to do it anymore. So tell your

1281
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,359
friends, tell everybody who's out there.

1282
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:15,119
Come out to Great Oak Park. It's a

1283
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,440
fantastic place. We do really nice stuff

1284
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,920
there. There's great concerts there. Um

1285
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,319
people picnic and have fun and it, you

1286
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:24,640
know, just a nice vibe overall. So I I

1287
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,480
encourage you to do that. I also

1288
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,040
encourage you to come out to the uh

1289
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,799
outdoor market that we hold. It's not

1290
01:02:30,799 --> 01:02:33,040
this Saturday, but but we hold them

1291
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,960
about two to three times a month. And

1292
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,880
again, if we don't get the traffic

1293
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,119
coming in from town, we're we're not

1294
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,920
going to do it anymore. Um, so if you

1295
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
guys want it, there has to be support.

1296
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,359
>> Can you just talk about what the music

1297
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:46,640
what kind of music's going to be this

1298
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:47,040
weekend?

1299
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,559
>> This weekend is um I would call it uh

1300
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,119
Grateful Dead, Fish, and Originals.

1301
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:53,440
>> Okay.

1302
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,559
>> Yeah. Just

1303
01:02:54,559 --> 01:03:00,319
>> fun for everybody. Yeah. I mean, it's we've had from this high to that

1304
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,880
high and every age in between and

1305
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,720
everybody's walked away having a nice

1306
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,760
time. So, and it's really for everybody.

1307
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,839
Come on down and check it out. All

1308
01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:11,599
right. And the market, come to the

1309
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,520
market. All different vendors every

1310
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,880
single time, different foods. Um I think

1311
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,720
uh Councilwoman Rose was there this

1312
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,200
week, although I wasn't. Um, I I just

1313
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,240
want to encourage everybody.

1314
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,200
>> Put my earrings on. [laughter]

1315
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,720
>> Said they have jewelry, too. I mean,

1316
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,240
there's really everything there. But, we do need the support of the town

1317
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,079
because these people are coming from,

1318
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:34,720
you know, local and abroad. And if

1319
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,640
they're not getting the business there,

1320
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,319
they're not going to come back. They're

1321
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:39,760
just not going to come back. And so, it

1322
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,319
gets more difficult for us to recruit

1323
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,359
vendors to our market because we're not

1324
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:47,200
getting foot traffic. The foot traffic

1325
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:48,960
has been really light. And of course, I

1326
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,319
mean, listen, the weather has been kind

1327
01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,280
of crappy. I mean, I I'll say that. Um,

1328
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,000
but the reality is we're not getting the

1329
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,920
foot traffic. And if we can't get that

1330
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,640
to pick up, um, I don't know that we'll

1331
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,480
be able to pull it off next year because

1332
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,480
they won't come back. People won't come

1333
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,240
back because of that. They love it here.

1334
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,680
They love the people here. They think

1335
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,000
we're friendly. [laughter]

1336
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,640
Like, they haven't been in here clearly,

1337
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,559
>> you know, and it's a really nice ad to

1338
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:19,760
our town. Um, people from outside the

1339
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,799
area come to visit Oakland. That's a

1340
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:25,520
benefit for us. People that come to our

1341
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,960
market go to the stores in town and and

1342
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,520
they buy gas in town and food and

1343
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,039
whatnot, not just at the market. And so,

1344
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:37,200
we need things like this here. You know,

1345
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,440
we need to attract people to Oakland.

1346
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,960
It's a good thing for us. It's a

1347
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,039
positive thing for us. So, I would like

1348
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:45,119
to be able to continue this, but without

1349
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,920
the public support, it won't be. I can I

1350
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,359
can tell you that right out of the gate.

1351
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:54,319
It it won't be. Um, so, so that's

1352
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:56,640
my spiel. I apologize.

1353
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:00,240
Shut that off. Um, on on that note, um,

1354
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,559
we also are looking for volunteers for

1355
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:05,440
the arts committee. Our next meeting is

1356
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,760
next Monday, whatever date that is. It's

1357
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,839
not my brain.

1358
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:13,599
>> Thank you. um at 7 p.m. at the senior

1359
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,440
center. And we are looking for people

1360
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,000
who would like to support the market,

1361
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,559
who would like to support the concerts

1362
01:05:20,559 --> 01:05:22,640
that we do. And if you have something

1363
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:23,599
else to bring to the [clears throat]

1364
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:26,400
table, we welcome that as well. So that

1365
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,640
that's my spiel on the arts. I'm going

1366
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,640
to talk garbage for a minute. We'll

1367
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,920
trash talk for a minute. Um I agree with

1368
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,680
everybody here. I think we made some

1369
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,599
mistakes. I think we're probably all on

1370
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,280
the same page with that. There were

1371
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,960
definitely mistakes made. I know you

1372
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,799
guys are trying to remedy it, but what I

1373
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:44,880
would like to know is what are you going

1374
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,039
to do

1375
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,839
to get Pompton to do what they're

1376
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:52,240
supposed to do? What actions are you

1377
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,880
going to take to make sure that they're

1378
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,760
taking all of the garbage out of the can

1379
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,960
and not leaving the last whatever's left

1380
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,200
at the bottom? That matters for

1381
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,520
something. That absolutely matters.

1382
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:10,160
They're doing a half ass job. Period.

1383
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,640
Okay? And we should not accept that. We

1384
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,960
need to put our fist down in front of

1385
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,359
them and tell them that this is what we

1386
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:20,079
signed up for. This is what we expect

1387
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:23,359
and nothing less. Who is doing that?

1388
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:25,440
That's what I would like to know. I know

1389
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,359
you're not going to answer me, but I'm

1390
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:28,720
just telling you right now. I want to

1391
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,880
know. I want to hear. I want to see you

1392
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,880
guys write an article about what's going

1393
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,720
on with the garbage and everything

1394
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,119
you're doing to fix it. Okay? It

1395
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:38,880
shouldn't be us trying to fix it. We

1396
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,319
need you guys to [clears throat] fix it.

1397
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:42,480
Whatever it takes. Bless you. And I will

1398
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,440
close on that. Thank you.

1399
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:49,291
>> Thank you.

1400
01:06:49,301 --> 01:06:52,470
[applause]

1401
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,720
Follow that purple.

1402
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,200
Hi, Mari Soul Kazowski. I'm on Barnard

1403
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,760
Drive. Um,

1404
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,599
so first of all, I want to actually echo

1405
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:03,119
something that both Elizabeth and Andrea

1406
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:04,720
said. As somebody who's been addicted to

1407
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,720
volunteering a lot in our town, all of

1408
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,400
our organizations absolutely need

1409
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,559
volunteers. Our council members are

1410
01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,640
layons to a lot of these groups. Um,

1411
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,880
they can testify to the fantastic job

1412
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,000
that most of these organizations and

1413
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,599
groups are doing. I am wearing an

1414
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:20,480
Oakland uh green team t-shirt this

1415
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,079
evening. I am no longer a member of the

1416
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:23,680
green team, but if any of you are saying

1417
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,359
where did styrofoam go, where did our

1418
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:27,359
volunteers go? because I was out there

1419
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,039
alongside with the mayor on many a cold

1420
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:32,160
morning stuffing styrofoam into a tank.

1421
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,160
Um, and that's exactly what happens if

1422
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,599
we don't have the volunteers step up and

1423
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,039
if we don't have the community support,

1424
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,280
these things do disappear. Um, I've also

1425
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,559
been a member on the arts committee.

1426
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:42,160
They're doing a fantastic job. One of

1427
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,319
the things Andrea forgot to mention was

1428
01:07:44,319 --> 01:07:45,839
at the Oakland market this year. We'll

1429
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:47,839
be for the first time doing an evening

1430
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:49,520
market in October.

1431
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,319
>> Second time.

1432
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:52,640
Sorry. Second time. You

1433
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,520
forgot it. I read it wrong. Second time.

1434
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,480
Um, and you might see us there because

1435
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,079
you're going to be signing up. So, um,

1436
01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:02,319
please come out and support it. Um, and

1437
01:08:02,319 --> 01:08:04,000
like everyone else who's come up here

1438
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,440
speaking about trash and garbage, of

1439
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,799
course, I've got to put in my two cents

1440
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:09,200
as well. Um, in my opinion, what we've

1441
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,520
been seeing since this new company took

1442
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:16,400
over is a huge variation in consistency

1443
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,880
and in good support. Prior to actually

1444
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,480
signing this contract, I actually

1445
01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:23,040
mentioned that we were going from, as

1446
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,239
someone else mentioned, we were went

1447
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:27,440
from five days um of no service a year

1448
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:30,480
to this contract having 17. That is a

1449
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,480
what 300% increase for your numbers

1450
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:37,520
people um in less time of service. Okay,

1451
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,359
so things like that do matter. They do

1452
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:40,960
matter to us. Most holidays come up

1453
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,000
when? Oh, the holidays. Um when we have

1454
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,520
a lot of trash and want to get rid of

1455
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,759
it. That is important. I brought it up

1456
01:08:47,759 --> 01:08:50,560
then prior to the vote. I'm bringing it

1457
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,440
up again. Um, what we've seen personally

1458
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:55,199
on my neighborhood, our trash cans are

1459
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:56,640
compliant. They have been compliant. We

1460
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,359
didn't get stickered. Our actual

1461
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,679
service,

1462
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:04,400
one day the can is half empty, one day

1463
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,799
the can is left, one day we have no

1464
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,120
problem, one day there's garbage in the

1465
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,440
street, one day there's glass in the

1466
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,600
street. On two different occasions right

1467
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,880
now, we have had broken glass um damage.

1468
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,480
And I'm not talking about, oh, they

1469
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:20,000
dropped the can in front of my driveway,

1470
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,600
so it's my tires I have to worry about.

1471
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,880
I'm talking the whole length of the

1472
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:29,359
street, house after house glass where a

1473
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:31,839
couple of the residents came out. We we

1474
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:33,359
call them the boys and their toys, our

1475
01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:35,359
dads in our neighborhood. They came out

1476
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:37,120
with their brooms and they clean up.

1477
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,759
Okay. Um because and most of them you

1478
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,040
don't see any of them here other than me

1479
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,199
because they just do. They all have

1480
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:46,880
little kids. We have a number of very small children, new families. We

1481
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,120
adore them in our neighborhood. Um

1482
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,960
couple of sets of twins. They're

1483
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,319
beautiful kids. They should be able to

1484
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:53,359
play in the street without having to

1485
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:54,880
worry about glass. My kids didn't have

1486
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,480
to worry about glass. They shouldn't

1487
01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,320
have to worry about glass. It's an

1488
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,000
inconsistency.

1489
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,560
I come right off onto Franklin Avenue

1490
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,640
and there have been a couple of mornings

1491
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,480
where I have seen more than a mile of

1492
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,320
traffic in the other direction behind a

1493
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,120
trash truck with these guys not doing a

1494
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,440
good job. And then I've seen other ones

1495
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,239
that are doing a great job and we do our

1496
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:18,000
due diligence and when I see something

1497
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,840
of grievance like the glass, we call the

1498
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,800
DPW. We were told here to call the DPW.

1499
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,320
I was sitting right here when you guys

1500
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,640
said call the DPW. I was sitting right

1501
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,400
here when you said they have a weight

1502
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,840
issue. You don't want them reaching into

1503
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,000
the cans. Most of the times they're

1504
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,679
reaching into the cans. Just so you

1505
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:35,360
know, on at least on my neighborhood on

1506
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,120
my block, okay? Um I even said something

1507
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,159
to one of the gentlemen in the morning.

1508
01:10:40,159 --> 01:10:40,960
You know, that's really dangerous,

1509
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,080
honey. You should pick put it up from

1510
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,440
your back because the kid looked he was

1511
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,199
about 20. I'm going to call him honey.

1512
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,320
I'm old. He then went said, "No, IT'S

1513
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,000
OKAY. I GOT IT." And he just put it in

1514
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,679
the in the you know in the truck and

1515
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:52,800
then I looked down and there was still

1516
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,239
another bag left. Like you forgot. Okay.

1517
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,800
Um, this is what's happening on a

1518
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,480
regular basis. We've gone now what, like

1519
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:02,239
three or four weeks at least, maybe a

1520
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,239
few more weeks. It's it's been

1521
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:07,520
inconsistent. Okay. And it it does

1522
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,320
actually worry me the inconsistency of

1523
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,840
it. So, like Andrea, I would like to

1524
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,480
know how you're handling it with

1525
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:19,360
Pompton. Is anybody from Pompton talking

1526
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,760
to these guys on the trucks? Because,

1527
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,400
like I said, I've seen guys doing a

1528
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,920
great job. I've seen, you know, as

1529
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,199
you're driving around in the morning and

1530
01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:28,239
watching them, some of them are doing

1531
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:32,960
fine and then others are not. Okay. Um,

1532
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,120
and lastly, I just like to say thank you

1533
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,400
because we know that you guys are

1534
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,000
working hard. We know it's a hard job.

1535
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,840
We know you're trying to do your best.

1536
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,320
Okay. But I really do think that

1537
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,960
prompting got the best of us. Okay. Have

1538
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:53,189
a great day.

1539
01:11:53,199 --> 01:11:57,155
Frank Furbacher, 56 Walton Avenue.

1540
01:11:57,155 --> 01:11:58,000
[clears throat]

1541
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,400
Uh, good evening and thank you all for

1542
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,880
your service to Oakland. I wanted to

1543
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,640
comment briefly on the proposed $83,500

1544
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,360
police department assessment.

1545
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,040
I believe the burrow should be working

1546
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,640
collaboratively with our police

1547
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,239
department and maintaining a strong,

1548
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:15,760
productive relationship with the

1549
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,800
officers who serve our community. I'm

1550
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,560
not opposed to an assessment simply

1551
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,280
because [clears throat] it's an

1552
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,760
assessment. If there are legitimate

1553
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,679
operational concerns that need to be

1554
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:29,120
addressed, then we should address them.

1555
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,880
But I think residents deserve to

1556
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,199
understand what problem we're trying to

1557
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:36,400
solve before we move forward.

1558
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,159
What specifically prompted this

1559
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:39,840
assessment?

1560
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,440
What has changed since this was brought

1561
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,520
before council last month and didn't

1562
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,600
receive a motion?

1563
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,120
What exactly will the consultant

1564
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,280
deliver? Will the findings and

1565
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,560
recommendations be made public?

1566
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,560
And how does this assessment differ from

1567
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,719
the accreditation and review processes

1568
01:12:56,719 --> 01:13:00,080
the department already participates in?

1569
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,080
As a resident and as someone asking

1570
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,080
voters for the opportunity to serve on

1571
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,080
this council, I think that's the kind of

1572
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,239
information we should expect before

1573
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:11,360
making a decision of this magnitude. If

1574
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,120
there's a compelling case for this

1575
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,679
assessment, the ask is that you explain

1576
01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:17,600
it publicly.

1577
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,440
We should be working constructively with

1578
01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:20,960
our police department while making sure

1579
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,040
taxpayer dollars are spent with a clear

1580
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,520
purpose, defined outcomes, and

1581
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,855
accountability. Thank you. Thank you.

1582
01:13:28,855 --> 01:13:31,990
[applause]

1583
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,159
» I just have one quick thing. Sarah

1584
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:37,360
Jensen, Third Street, 73rd Street,

1585
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,560
Oakland, and he just stole my thunder. I

1586
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,679
don't [laughter] really need to say

1587
01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:42,800
anything. [clears throat]

1588
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,600
We have an outstanding police department

1589
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,360
that we all really appreciate and if

1590
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,880
that money is burning a hole in our

1591
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,440
pocket, let's use it some way that is

1592
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,440
supportive of them.

1593
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,021
>> That's all I have to say. Thank you.

1594
01:13:57,021 --> 01:13:59,270
[applause]

1595
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,199
» Anybody else?

1596
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,520
>> Marwell Klosski, Barnard Drive. Again,

1597
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,800
um I forgot to tell you about one

1598
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,080
situation that happened with the garbage

1599
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,080
that is different than everybody else.

1600
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,159
And that situation was we had a

1601
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:11,840
pres-scheduled donation prior to the

1602
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,679
garbage change for the veterans

1603
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:15,040
association

1604
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,000
>> and we put out some bright yellow bags

1605
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,920
for donation that were clearly labeled

1606
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,040
veterans association donation. Um and we

1607
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,000
put veterans association do not take not

1608
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,880
garbage on the bags. Garbage guys took

1609
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,000
them.

1610
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,360
>> Um we then called the DPW as per

1611
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,760
directions. The DPW then told us call

1612
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,000
the business administrator. At that

1613
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,360
point, it was my husband. Those of you

1614
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:40,560
who on the council who know my husband

1615
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,080
know he was not happy to get rerouted to

1616
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,840
another department.

1617
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,920
So, I do apologize if he was a little

1618
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,320
hot. Um, but you know, that's again

1619
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,239
reading is fundamental and they were

1620
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:53,280
bright yellow [clears throat] bags. They

1621
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,880
were not garbage bags. They were

1622
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,640
donation bags. So, again, this is

1623
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,159
something that we need to clear up with

1624
01:14:58,159 --> 01:14:59,360
them and that's it. Thank you.

1625
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,600
>> Thank you.

1626
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,080
>> Anybody else?

1627
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,440
Not seeing anybody. Do I have a motion

1628
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:06,480
to close?

1629
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,800
>> Move. Do I have a second? Also,

1630
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:09,440
>> all in favor?

1631
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:10,960
>> Is that Bill?

1632
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:11,360
>> Steve.

1633
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:12,080
>> Oh, Steve.

1634
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,159
>> Yep.

1635
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:15,760
>> Okay. All in favor?

1636
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:16,400
>> I.

1637
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,920
>> Mr. Cers, you want to take some of those

1638
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,040
questions?

1639
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,360
>> Uh, well, I'll just give an update from

1640
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,280
uh,

1641
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,520
you know, from the last meeting. Uh, and one, I know that there's been a lot

1642
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,120
of comments here tonight about

1643
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,239
individual problems people have had. Um

1644
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,239
and and I want to thank you. We did say

1645
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:36,159
contact DPW. A lot of people have been

1646
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:38,719
contacting DPW and and and keep doing

1647
01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:40,239
that because the more information that

1648
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:42,640
we have of those deficiencies of when

1649
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,880
they miss a bag or there's glass in the

1650
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,040
street or anything, uh it provides more

1651
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,719
information for us to go back to Pompton

1652
01:15:48,719 --> 01:15:49,840
and bring those issues to their

1653
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,120
attention so that we can have them

1654
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,040
addressed.

1655
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,920
There was one commenter that made uh the point that it seems to be spotty. I

1656
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,360
think that's the sort of the assessment

1657
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,360
that I've seen as well based on a lot of

1658
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,600
the comments. Uh certain routes, certain

1659
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,719
days are completely fine, no issues.

1660
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:09,120
Other times, well, you missed this or

1661
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,320
there was this problem or they didn't

1662
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,440
put the lids on. So, it it seems to be,

1663
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:14,960
you know, rather specific to certain

1664
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,920
crews on certain days. Um, and I know

1665
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,000
Pon Lakes is trying to zero in on that,

1666
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,600
too, in terms of their efforts to uh

1667
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,520
call it direct and guide their workforce

1668
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,440
appropriately. So, um, you know, a a lot

1669
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:31,520
of this stuff clearly just from a

1670
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,040
service level perspective is is

1671
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,600
unacceptable, right? You have you all

1672
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,360
your garbage should be picked up, your

1673
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,960
lid should be put back on your can, your

1674
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,280
can shouldn't be left in the road, etc.

1675
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,360
It's sort of basic stuff. Uh, that's

1676
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,040
certainly our expectation. That's the

1677
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,360
level of service that they provide. So,

1678
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,719
um, if you continue to have those

1679
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:50,640
issues, continue to report them so we

1680
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,920
can continue to bring them to Pump and

1681
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,920
Lakes's attention, uh, and hold them

1682
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,440
accountable for what really the the the

1683
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:59,600
appropriate service level is for this.

1684
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,199
Okay. Um, as to the issue with, uh,

1685
01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:06,400
collection on uh, Route 202,

1686
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,520
uh, they were changing their route. Um,

1687
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,239
I've heard on I'm not sure again how

1688
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:13,520
consistent that is, but I have been

1689
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,120
hearing that they've been on route 202

1690
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,400
earlier than they were a month ago. Uh,

1691
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,640
so I'm hopeful that that issue has been addressed. U, but if anybody is

1692
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,120
on 202 and they're not experiencing an

1693
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,360
early pickup, let us know about that as

1694
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,520
well. Uh the yard waste is also

1695
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,760
something I know that uh you know people

1696
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,120
of course would prefer to have that

1697
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,280
earlier in the week when they're you

1698
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,320
know there's stuff's there uh from from

1699
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,719
the weekend. Uh Pompton Lakes has not

1700
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:42,719
committed yet to making any changes but

1701
01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:44,880
they have committed to reassessing it as

1702
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,480
we get a few more months into the

1703
01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:49,760
contract to see if there's a way uh for

1704
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,360
them to adjust their schedule to

1705
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,320
accommodate that. Okay. So, um, that's

1706
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,600
not something that they've closed the

1707
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,120
door on, but I don't have, you know, any

1708
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,679
further commitment on that, uh, at this

1709
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:01,840
time. Uh, I'm not sure if there's

1710
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:07,750
anything else you want me to touch on.

1711
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,120
» Are we still Go ahead.

1712
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,159
>> Go ahead, Steve.

1713
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:11,520
>> Are we still continuing to meet with

1714
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,440
Pontton on a monthly basis, weekly

1715
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:15,199
basis, or how many times are we talking

1716
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:16,400
with Pontton about this?

1717
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,719
>> Um, I'm referring complaints. I know DPW

1718
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,640
is referring complaints. I have regular

1719
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,480
conversations with my counterpart over

1720
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,800
there. Um, and I think that, you know,

1721
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,360
after, uh, next week when I'm back from

1722
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,849
vacation, uh, we'll probably

1723
01:18:28,849 --> 01:18:30,239
[clears throat] have another in person.

1724
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:31,440
>> Okay.

1725
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,520
>> And are there people from Pompton Lakes

1726
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,679
DPW following them around, making sure

1727
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:38,080
they're doing what they should be doing?

1728
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,600
>> Their supervisor is on the route

1729
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:40,640
regularly. Okay.

1730
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,320
>> With the guys. Yes.

1731
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,239
>> And I said, but it's still happening.

1732
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:45,760
That's that's the problem is, you know,

1733
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,800
we have people following them around,

1734
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,199
but we're still having these issues. So,

1735
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:50,480
you know, to me, what what's being

1736
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:51,040
resolved,

1737
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:51,360
>> right?

1738
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,320
>> You know, great you're following them

1739
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,760
around, but

1740
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,199
>> we're not getting anywhere.

1741
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,360
>> I do want to bring one thing out and um

1742
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,760
understanding there's been some services

1743
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,120
against the garbage people. They're not

1744
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,239
they could be doing a better job. We're

1745
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:03,199
all in agreement on that and we're

1746
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:05,040
working towards it. There have also been

1747
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,719
some cases where our residents have been

1748
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,520
a little abusive. So, just all any

1749
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,040
complaints, please bring them to us.

1750
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,960
Don't engage don't engage with the the

1751
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,800
employees directly. We've had some

1752
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,199
examples of where uh some of the workers

1753
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:19,840
were had we'll say heated conversations

1754
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,760
were approached heatedly right there

1755
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,120
their desk they move around they call a

1756
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,880
supervisor comes up just if you have any

1757
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,239
complaints call us so we can deal with

1758
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:27,840
the supervisors no one should have no

1759
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,199
one should be communicating with the

1760
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,600
garbage man directly just um you know

1761
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,880
we're we're better than that as Oakland

1762
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,910
residents

1763
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,000
thank you

1764
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,040
>> okay we are up to

1765
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,840
approval of minutes anybody else council

1766
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,520
That's the question. Okay. Approval of

1767
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,040
minutes. We got July 14th, 2026.

1768
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,880
>> Do I have a motion to approve?

1769
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,760
>> So moved.

1770
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,840
>> Second. Does anybody have any changes?

1771
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,520
>> Not seeing any roll call.

1772
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,040
>> Council President Talini?

1773
01:19:59,040 --> 01:19:59,440
>> Yes.

1774
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:00,560
>> Councilman Dumpert?

1775
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:00,960
>> Yes.

1776
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,080
>> Councilman Eert?

1777
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:02,560
>> Yes.

1778
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,320
>> Councilman Pignatelli?

1779
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,199
>> Abstain.

1780
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:06,640
>> Councilwoman Rose.

1781
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:07,040
>> Yes.

1782
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,640
>> Councilman Zelian.

1783
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,120
>> Yes.

1784
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,600
>> We have July 14th, 2026 executive

1785
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,239
meeting. Approve approval of minutes. Do

1786
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:15,360
have a motion to approve.

1787
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,320
>> So moved.

1788
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,760
>> Mr. Rose, we have a second.

1789
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,040
>> Second.

1790
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,560
>> Who's got the second?

1791
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,120
>> Bill.

1792
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:24,239
>> Okay. Does anybody have any changes?

1793
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:24,800
>> No.

1794
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,080
>> Not seeing any. Roll call.

1795
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,760
>> Council President Talini.

1796
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,239
>> Yes.

1797
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:29,360
>> Councilman Dumpbert.

1798
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,760
>> Yes.

1799
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:30,800
>> Councilman Eert.

1800
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:31,280
>> Yes.

1801
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:32,560
>> Councilman Pignatelli.

1802
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:33,199
>> Abstain.

1803
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:34,480
>> Councilwoman Rose.

1804
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:34,800
>> Yes.

1805
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,080
>> Councilman Saliani.

1806
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:36,880
>> Yes.

1807
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,320
>> All right. We have the following special

1808
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,400
announcements. We have a authorized

1809
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,600
social affairs permit for the Elks lodge

1810
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,239
number 2167 for a poker night fundraiser

1811
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:48,400
supportive lif raft group on September

1812
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,840
24th, 2026 from 6 p.m. to 11 to 12:00

1813
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,760
a.m. at at 33 Valley Road. We also have

1814
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,000
an authorized raffle license RL1613

1815
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,199
for the Indian Hills parent athletic

1816
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:05,600
committee for raffle on October 2nd

1817
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,159
202026 and support of the Indian Hills

1818
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:10,239
dance team at Indian Hills High School

1819
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:13,440
located 97 Yo Avenue. And the last one

1820
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,199
we have is authorized raffle license

1821
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:16,800
RL1614

1822
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,280
for the Reed Foundation for Autism for

1823
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,480
Raffle being held on January 12th, 2027

1824
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,000
in

1825
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,679
January. Okay, I'm just checking the

1826
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:27,360
date. Supportive programs and services

1827
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,440
for individuals with autism at 25 Pash

1828
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:30,960
Road, Oakland. Do you have a motion to

1829
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,360
approve?

1830
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,120
>> So move second. [snorts]

1831
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,159
>> All in favor?

1832
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:34,880
>> I.

1833
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,000
>> Okay, we're up to the following

1834
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,760
resolutions. At this time, I'm going to

1835
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,159
pull out resolution 26248,

1836
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:42,000
which is the Aelotti group. Doesn't mean

1837
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,199
it's not going to come back again, but

1838
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:44,640
I'm going to pull it out for today.

1839
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,120
Okay. Uh if we're going to do this as a

1840
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,080
consent agenda, we have 26234 authorized

1841
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,360
recreation refunds. 26235 authorized

1842
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,679
recre recamp counselor hires. 26236

1843
01:21:57,679 --> 01:21:59,920
authorized hire of crossing guards.

1844
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,040
26237 authorized hire of SEO three

1845
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,000
police officers. 26238

1846
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,719
authorized acrru acred time payout for

1847
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:11,920
O'Keeffe. 26239

1848
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,719
chapter 159 opioid class settlement

1849
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:16,320
actions.

1850
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,639
26240 certify receipt of the 2020 2025

1851
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:24,560
annual audit. 26241 resolution approving

1852
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,920
the 2025 annual audit corrective plan

1853
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,840
prepared by the CFO in response to the

1854
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,159
findings and recommendations in the 2025

1855
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,840
audit.

1856
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,719
26242 authorized contract to Boswell

1857
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:38,000
Engineering for the drainage

1858
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,639
improvements at 39 and 41 Lakeshore

1859
01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:44,159
Drive. 26243 safe routes to school

1860
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:47,679
engineering contract amendment. 26244

1861
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:49,840
authorized contract phase 1 and

1862
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,960
preliminary assessment for 279 Ramipo

1863
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,920
Valley Road. 26245

1864
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,760
right-of-way drainage improvements at

1865
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,320
144 Manito Avenue. 26246 authorizing

1866
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,080
change to title text amount of

1867
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,550
appropriations pursuant to NJSA4A

1868
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,080
4-85

1869
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,960
and 26247 authorize resolution

1870
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,760
authorizes return of funds for McManis.

1871
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,440
Do I have anybody wish to pull any out?

1872
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:18,960
>> Yeah. Pull out 240 please.

1873
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,600
>> 240.

1874
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,560
Anybody else?

1875
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,480
With the exception of 26 240. Do I have

1876
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:28,800
a motion to approve? So move.

1877
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,280
>> Mr. Councilman Tal uh Pnatelli, do you

1878
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:31,760
have a second?

1879
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:32,159
>> Second.

1880
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:35,840
Mr. Eert. Roll call.

1881
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,520
>> Council President Talamini.

1882
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:38,239
>> Yes.

1883
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:39,440
>> Councilman Dumpbert.

1884
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:40,000
>> Yes.

1885
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,199
>> Councilman Eert.

1886
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:41,679
>> Yes.

1887
01:23:41,679 --> 01:23:43,199
>> Councilman Potatelli.

1888
01:23:43,199 --> 01:23:43,600
>> Yes.

1889
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,040
>> Councilwoman Rose.

1890
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:45,440
>> Yes.

1891
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,040
>> Councilman Saliani.

1892
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,159
>> Yes.

1893
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,159
>> All right. We've got 26240 certified

1894
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,880
receipt of 2025 analyt. Mr. Salani. I

1895
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,040
just wanted to pull that out to uh call

1896
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,440
out what a great job that um our CFO

1897
01:23:57,440 --> 01:23:59,520
David Young did along with Bur

1898
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,080
Administrator Coons. Um we did review

1899
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,120
that in the finance committee meeting.

1900
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,239
Supposed to be a pseudo update on the

1901
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:07,040
finance committee. Um audit results were

1902
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,880
fantastic and I just wanted to call out

1903
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,880
what a great job that uh both of them

1904
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,800
did on our with our work last year with

1905
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,120
their work last year. Just that simple.

1906
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,280
>> Would you like to introduce

1907
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,560
>> approve? Sure.

1908
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,280
>> Motion.

1909
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,239
>> Who's got the second?

1910
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:20,880
>> Second.

1911
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,840
>> Miss Rose. Roll call on 26240.

1912
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,440
>> Council President Telini,

1913
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:25,840
>> yes.

1914
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,880
>> Councilman Dumpert,

1915
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:27,360
>> yes.

1916
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:28,400
>> Councilman Eert,

1917
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:28,880
>> yes.

1918
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,159
>> Councilman Pigotelli,

1919
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:30,560
>> yes.

1920
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,679
>> Councilwoman Rose,

1921
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:32,080
>> yes.

1922
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,280
>> Councilman Saliani,

1923
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,000
>> yes.

1924
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,600
>> Uh, we have no ordinance, but we do have

1925
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,600
a work session, the 2027 calendar. I

1926
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:38,719
know it's been provided to all the

1927
01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:41,600
members of the governing body. Uh, this

1928
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:42,880
really needs to get done now because

1929
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,719
they also have to print the calendars.

1930
01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:47,040
Uh, does anybody I know you've all had a

1931
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,239
chance to look at it. Does anybody have

1932
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:50,639
any comments on this at this time?

1933
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:52,239
>> I appreciate it. not falling on my

1934
01:24:52,239 --> 01:24:52,880
birthday.

1935
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,440
>> That's it. [laughter]

1936
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:56,639
So, everybody's comfortable with this to

1937
01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:59,840
move forward. Okay. Very good. Uh, does

1938
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,880
everybody have any new business?

1939
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,920
>> New business, Mr.

1940
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,920
>> Sure. I want to thank Mr. Coons. Uh, I

1941
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,320
had contact with him late last week and

1942
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,639
early this week about the the cyber

1943
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:14,400
attacks that we've seen around this

1944
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:15,840
country against critical infrastructure

1945
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,400
and against the water systems. It is it

1946
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,320
is no secret that the water system here

1947
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,560
in Oakland is an absolute piece of

1948
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,159
critical infrastructure and should it

1949
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,320
come down uh would be catastrophic for

1950
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:27,679
our town, our burough, our people and

1951
01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:29,920
our visitors. Um so I've asked Mr. Mr.

1952
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,679
Coons and others to to kind of pull

1953
01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:34,080
together and assess where we are, what

1954
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,159
we've done historically and are we

1955
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:38,639
poised to uh defend against such cyber

1956
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:40,159
attacks, including those that are

1957
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:42,320
sponsored by nation states. Uh one of

1958
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,239
the things we know about this space is

1959
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,400
that uh attacks like this around the

1960
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,320
country are often considered boundary

1961
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,040
probing activities where tests will be

1962
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,440
taken, intelligence will be gathered and

1963
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,280
then the more refined plan will come out

1964
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,639
of uh the the the boundary probe. So the

1965
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:00,480
adversaries when they take down a water

1966
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:01,679
system like they've done around the

1967
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:03,520
country and they've attacked several in

1968
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,120
New Jersey are learning lessons. They're

1969
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,400
learning what our defensive posture

1970
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,239
looks like. They're learning what our

1971
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:10,719
cyber preparedness is. uh and at the the

1972
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:12,560
local and municipal level. Uh there's a

1973
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,080
lot of commentary nationwide that it's

1974
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,199
one of the things that is often

1975
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:17,280
overlooked. So I've asked Mr. Coons and

1976
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,120
thank you sir for for pulling together

1977
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,719
and uh we're going to look into this

1978
01:26:20,719 --> 01:26:22,480
deeply and I think it's a a good use of

1979
01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:24,960
time, a good use of money uh and we'll

1980
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,560
ultimately safeguard the burrow. So I I

1981
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,840
look forward to digging into that

1982
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,239
further.

1983
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:31,440
>> Anybody else?

1984
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,120
>> Uh yeah, there's one thing I wanted to

1985
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,159
bring up. Um

1986
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:34,639
>> yes,

1987
01:26:34,639 --> 01:26:37,520
>> we have a you know a situation with uh

1988
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,639
somebody with the shade tree committee.

1989
01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:44,239
Um you know he wants to appeal having to

1990
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,239
pay the fine and everything. So I was

1991
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:48,719
going to ask both sides to come to the

1992
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:50,560
next meeting to discuss it.

1993
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:50,880
>> Okay.

1994
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,880
>> I just wanted to make sure everybody was

1995
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,280
okay with that and

1996
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:55,920
>> Okay.

1997
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,920
>> Very good.

1998
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,080
>> Anything else? All right. Does anybody

1999
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,800
have any old business?

2000
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,960
Not seeing any. Uh we're up to committee

2001
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,280
liaison reports. Um Mr. We'll start with

2002
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:07,840
you.

2003
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,719
>> Oh, thanks, Mayor. Um actually, Andrea,

2004
01:27:10,719 --> 01:27:12,320
you basically did my whole report with

2005
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,400
the uh [laughter] with the arts. They uh

2006
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,239
they did have their their market this

2007
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:17,600
past weekend. It was it was a little

2008
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,440
slow, but it still had a good turnout.

2009
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:22,400
Um the next one scheduled for the 22nd.

2010
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,159
And then the uh like you said, the the

2011
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:26,080
concert is is this coming weekend, and

2012
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,600
it is Steve Leonard with the Funky

2013
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,560
Warlocks, and they start at 3:00. Um and

2014
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,159
that's that's about it. Like I said, the

2015
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:36,239
only thing I really want to say is is I want to apologize for the garbage

2016
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:45,600
fiasco that's going on. Um, you know, I was a part of that vote and I have to kind of own it. Um,

2017
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,760
given the the information that that was

2018
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,199
presented to me, I thought it was going

2019
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:52,960
to be a good deal. Um, obviously not,

2020
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,400
but I just want you know, we we are

2021
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:55,840
working on it. We are trying to make it

2022
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,679
better. And um I mean I take it

2023
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:00,239
personally. So don't think that you that

2024
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:02,320
all your concerns aren't being taken

2025
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:03,679
seriously because they are.

2026
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:05,199
>> Yeah, we all take it. Yeah, we're all

2027
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,040
taking it. Like I said, I just want to

2028
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:08,639
apologize to everybody that it it did

2029
01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:10,239
not go the way we planned, but we're

2030
01:28:10,239 --> 01:28:11,840
trying to make it better.

2031
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,081
>> All right. So that's it, Mr. Mayor.

2032
01:28:15,081 --> 01:28:17,189
[applause]

2033
01:28:17,199 --> 01:28:18,080
» That's all I got.

2034
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,679
>> Thank you, Councilwoman.

2035
01:28:19,679 --> 01:28:22,239
>> Okay. Thank you. Um

2036
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:25,679
so for the 911 committee um we have a 25

2037
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:28,239
memorial uh service. It's scheduled for

2038
01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:31,280
Friday, September 11th at Veterans Park

2039
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,120
on refreshments to follow at Pawns

2040
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,360
Church and all are welcome to attend and

2041
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:40,480
it should be you know an event that's uh

2042
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:42,560
that definitely people should remember.

2043
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:44,560
Um it's affected all of us and we were

2044
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,639
all a part of it um back then. uh shade

2045
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:52,239
tree met. Um the forester had issued 22

2046
01:28:52,239 --> 01:28:55,280
permits. Um 57 trees were removed, seven

2047
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,880
to be replaced. Hazardous trees. Um you

2048
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,719
know, we do have a committee that looks

2049
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:03,040
for hazardous trees in the area. If

2050
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,639
anyone sees a tree within the burough

2051
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:06,960
right of way that is deemed hazardous,

2052
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,800
um please notify the committee so it can

2053
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,120
be addressed. Um there's also a

2054
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:12,960
discussion that was had about the tree

2055
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,239
of heaven which is a very invasive tree

2056
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,080
that actually attracts the spotted

2057
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,960
lantern flies. Um so it is a tree that

2058
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,560
people should look to see you know about

2059
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,239
trying to contain it especially when

2060
01:29:26,239 --> 01:29:29,600
it's small tree not like mine that got

2061
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,520
too big. Um anyway, um so anyone

2062
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,360
interested in signing up for the adopted

2063
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,920
tree program should also email the um

2064
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,480
committee. Um this is a program that's

2065
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:43,520
gotten very much uh recognition um and

2066
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,760
has been very popular and I happen to

2067
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,760
say I love my tree in front of my yard

2068
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,520
now. So um and you know we're it's a

2069
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,199
great committee. All of our committees

2070
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,600
in Oakland are wonderful and we always

2071
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,679
could use volunteers. And that's all I

2072
01:29:57,679 --> 01:29:59,920
have to say. Thank you, Councilman

2073
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:01,280
Saliani. Oh,

2074
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,080
>> real quick from the fire department. Um

2075
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,679
the fire department for the month of

2076
01:30:05,679 --> 01:30:09,440
July had 29 calls with a total of 184

2077
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:12,480
volunteer hours and um they also

2078
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,040
partnered with the junior police for

2079
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,199
safety that safety and academy drills

2080
01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:18,800
over at the firehouse and then provide

2081
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,239
refreshments to the junior police

2082
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:21,679
academy [snorts]

2083
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:25,679
and um and mut mutual aid meeting of 365

2084
01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:30,080
hours and so so far for mutual aid of so

2085
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,360
far for August they've had 16 calls

2086
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,280
So again, that's another group. Um I

2087
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,360
every time I talk to Chief Inavilia,

2088
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,120
he's always asking, can we please just

2089
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,400
looking for volunteers? I know we had in

2090
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,320
the last two meetings, we had the Mcder

2091
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,920
family join the volunteer fire

2092
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,840
department. So anyone who's interested

2093
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,840
in helping out, please um consider

2094
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,239
joining the volunteer fire department.

2095
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,560
They are uh Monday nights. They drill

2096
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,400
every Monday night at 7:30 on Yapo

2097
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,320
Drive. Please go in, introduce yourself

2098
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,440
if you're interested. For recreation, um

2099
01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:00,719
there's there was not a recreation

2100
01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:02,560
meeting this month. Just want to say a

2101
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,960
quick thank you. Uh our rec summer camp

2102
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,679
has officially is officially done and uh

2103
01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:09,040
it was a very successful camp for the

2104
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,480
summer. So it was a great job by

2105
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:12,480
everybody. Uh we'd like to thank the

2106
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:14,960
camp staff who helped out uh and make it

2107
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,040
season possible for the local families.

2108
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,120
Also want to recognize the camp director

2109
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,040
Emily Swansonsky who will be stepping

2110
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,560
down this year for her years of

2111
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,560
leadership and dedication to Ryan Rec

2112
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,040
camp. Truly appreciate what she's done

2113
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,120
for campers and families and towns

2114
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,639
people over the last couple years. That

2115
01:31:30,639 --> 01:31:33,040
was the direct quote from the uh rec

2116
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,320
chair uh Megan Ratundo. And then for the

2117
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:40,229
OC,

2118
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:42,480
another group looking for volunteers. Uh

2119
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:44,400
OC volunteers are needed for the tele

2120
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,639
for the telecom, the television,

2121
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:49,120
bulletin board, and welcome welcome

2122
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,040
website social media committees. If

2123
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,960
you're interested in volunteering,

2124
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,880
please email occ.gov

2125
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,760
and fill out a volunteer form. Um, as a

2126
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:03,040
reminder, uh, the OC can be seen on

2127
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,080
Oakland TV channel 77 and be watched

2128
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,320
24/7 via the Oakland TV app in both

2129
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,320
Android and Apple devices. Just go to

2130
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,199
your local store to see that.

2131
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:16,080
And then the Oakland and then the um,

2132
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,159
Friends of the Oakland Communications

2133
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:20,560
Commission is still looking for we'll be

2134
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,480
having their first fundraising event in

2135
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:25,199
Oakland. And if you have time and

2136
01:32:25,199 --> 01:32:30,080
interest, please email info at friendsof

2137
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,360
at friendsofoc.org.

2138
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,040
And please consider following social

2139
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,960
media accounts and signing up for the

2140
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,040
quarterly newsletter, Voices of Oakland

2141
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,040
Communications with their quarterly

2142
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,000
newsletter and to lean and to learn

2143
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,840
what's going on. The next the next um

2144
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,600
Friends of Oakland Committee meeting is

2145
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,440
September 30th at 6 PM and the next OC

2146
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:55,360
meeting will be September 14th right

2147
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,800
here in council chambers. And just to

2148
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,800
piggy back off what uh Councilman

2149
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,040
Holland said, we everyone on this board

2150
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,400
was trying to do the best thing

2151
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:05,920
possible. We understand there's some

2152
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,440
hiccups and there's going to be

2153
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,520
continued conversations going. Is it

2154
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,239
going to be the exact same service? I I

2155
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:13,360
don't know, but we're going to do our

2156
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,840
best to get to where it was. And please

2157
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,360
hold us accountable and keep coming to

2158
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,199
meetings and having these conversations.

2159
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:23,679
>> Thank you, Councilman Dumpert.

2160
01:33:23,679 --> 01:33:26,239
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. U most meaningful

2161
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,400
updates from DPW. The fields in town,

2162
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,239
the recreck fields are being restriped

2163
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:32,639
to support the fall football. So, that

2164
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:33,920
is an indication that summer is coming

2165
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:35,360
to an end. I'm sorry to be the bear of

2166
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,840
bad news. Uh the road resurfacing, Mr.

2167
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,360
Mayor, as you indicated, is is well

2168
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,400
underway with uh with the

2169
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,760
worst condition streets being tackled

2170
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,600
first. That's one of the things before I

2171
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,679
assumed this uh position I wasn't aware

2172
01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:51,679
of, but there's a rank order uh for the

2173
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:56,159
general public's edification. There's a rank order of streets in town

2174
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:57,600
and they're assessed throughout the year

2175
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,960
and those that are in the poorest

2176
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,639
condition are the ones that get

2177
01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:03,280
resurfaced first. Are there streets that

2178
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:04,800
need resurfacing that don't get

2179
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,520
resurfaced? Yes, probably. Um, but the

2180
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,440
worst streets in Oakland get tackled

2181
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:11,199
first and so we exhaust the funds for

2182
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:13,040
the resurfacing program. So, that was

2183
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,639
helpful. Uh, and I wanted to pass that

2184
01:34:14,639 --> 01:34:16,960
along. Uh, while they're doing this

2185
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,400
work, uh, while they're doing the

2186
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,080
concrete work around the storm drains,

2187
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,320
around the curbs, uh, they're also

2188
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,800
testing for leaks so that there's no

2189
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,480
hidden leaks, which would require them

2190
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:29,120
to open the streets up again uh, after

2191
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,600
it's paved. So, they are the DPW is

2192
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,159
doing uh, the proper steps. It may take

2193
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,400
a a second or two longer to pave the

2194
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:37,760
streets as a result of those types of

2195
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,679
studies, but it is an exercise of due

2196
01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:41,040
diligence. The last thing we want to do

2197
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,960
is freshly repave and then have to

2198
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:44,719
reopen because there are unexpected or

2199
01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:46,960
unidentified leaks. Um, and then the

2200
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,040
last thing is uh they're actively

2201
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,199
filling the potholes that were that that

2202
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:53,760
still uh ravage our town. There's an

2203
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,520
ongoing list of potholes that need to be

2204
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,719
addressed. If you see them, if you hit

2205
01:34:58,719 --> 01:35:00,639
them,

2206
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:03,760
please notify DPW. We'll put it on the

2207
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,040
list. We'll get to it as soon as

2208
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:06,960
possible. The more eyes and ears we have

2209
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,400
out in the community reporting these

2210
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,239
things back to us, the better, the

2211
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:11,679
quicker, and the faster we can address

2212
01:35:11,679 --> 01:35:13,920
them. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2213
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,880
>> Councilman Potatelli.

2214
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,600
>> Thank you, Mayor.

2215
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,480
I have to echo what Councilman Iser

2216
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:25,920
said. Initially looking at the garbage

2217
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,480
uh uh

2218
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:31,760
contract with Pumpton Lakes, we knew

2219
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,280
couple of things weren't going to be the

2220
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,679
same. Uh we thought in the long run that

2221
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:40,880
um the savings would be beneficial to

2222
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,320
the burrow. Uh would also allow us to

2223
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,040
comply with some of the 2% cap law that

2224
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,080
we have on on expenditures.

2225
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,080
I've been in town for 52 years. I've had

2226
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,800
with Roselli, my garbage can taken, my

2227
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,520
garbage can lid taken, garbage not taken

2228
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,920
completely, uh recycling not taken

2229
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,040
completely. I had a border fence that I

2230
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:10,000
take out when they cut the lawn. They took that. I've had to replace it.

2231
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,520
No, Roselli. Not the new people, the old

2232
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,960
people. Okay. So, they're not completely

2233
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,120
liy white and clean either. I can tell

2234
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,360
you that. I don't complain about every

2235
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,560
little thing, but there were complaints

2236
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,960
I had about them, too.

2237
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,520
The thing that really, really hurts me

2238
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,679
the most

2239
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:33,840
is that people have said they're going

2240
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,179
to do things to the garbage to hurt the

2241
01:36:36,179 --> 01:36:39,120
[clears throat] garbage man.

2242
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,120
These are people out there making a

2243
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,920
living, okay?

2244
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,600
and you're going to do something to the

2245
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,840
garbage so that the garbage man gets

2246
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,679
hurt. That's atrocious.

2247
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:53,280
And let me tell you something, who's

2248
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,119
ever done that? You better be careful

2249
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:57,840
what you're doing. Some things like that

2250
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,440
break the law. But for for residents who

2251
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:04,709
do that,

2252
01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:06,800
post slurs against people on the

2253
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,239
council, slurs against their spouse,

2254
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:12,719
that that because of garbage, you're

2255
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:15,920
going to do that, harm people, cast

2256
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,119
dispersions against our family members.

2257
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:22,080
We didn't do this to make your life

2258
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:25,119
miserable. We didn't. We thought we were

2259
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:28,639
doing the right thing.

2260
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:30,880
I believe we will address them. We might

2261
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,760
not correct every one of them, but I'm

2262
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,760
sure we will address it. We're just

2263
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,080
trying to

2264
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,639
make our finances a little bit easier to

2265
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:43,520
bear. Look, you go to the store, prices

2266
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,520
are up four, five, 6, 10%.

2267
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,560
Some of the garbage contracts were 39%

2268
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:52,080
higher

2269
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:57,119
than what we are paying now. So, please,

2270
01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:59,040
you want to come and and holler at me

2271
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,080
for voting at it, please do. Don't do

2272
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,719
something to hurt these poor people

2273
01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:07,760
trying to make a living. It's atrocious

2274
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,320
that they did that. That's not what

2275
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,880
Oakland residents represent. And please

2276
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,880
don't do that. That's just beyond

2277
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,960
acceptability to me. I'm sorry. I

2278
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,199
apologize for getting upset about that,

2279
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:27,760
but I just can't see people getting

2280
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:32,390
harmed for trying to do their job.

2281
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:39,199
From the uh senior center, um our new Tech Tuesday clinic saw such a

2282
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:40,719
positive response that we're now

2283
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:43,440
offering it every Tuesday from 1 to 3

2284
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:46,480
p.m. Meet with a volunteer to get help

2285
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,960
with your technology. I'd probably take

2286
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,480
every minute that guy's got to offer

2287
01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:52,960
over there.

2288
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,840
such as phones, laptops, and tablets.

2289
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,119
Please make an appointment with the

2290
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:02,320
senior center by calling 2011 4057731.

2291
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,848
There's still opport still time

2292
01:39:04,848 --> 01:39:07,760
[clears throat] to RSVP for our hot dog

2293
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,960
days of summer on Thursday, August 20th

2294
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,840
at 12 p.m. The cost is $5 and can be

2295
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:17,600
paid by cash or check. RSVP can be made

2296
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,080
at the senior center.

2297
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,719
We will be hosting a presentation on

2298
01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,480
Betsy [clears throat] Ross as part of

2299
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:28,000
our America 250 programming on Thursday,

2300
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:32,320
September 3rd at 1 PM. There is no fee,

2301
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,440
but we do ask for your RSVP. Light

2302
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:38,480
refreshments will be served. If you have

2303
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:40,159
any questions, you can call the center.

2304
01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:41,679
Thank you very much, Mayor. Thank you,

2305
01:39:41,679 --> 01:39:43,760
>> Councilman Vicatelli. I just want to

2306
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,560
talk about this serious

2307
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,440
issue that you brought forward.

2308
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:51,280
Two weeks ago, I was contacted by the

2309
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,440
Ponttokes mayor

2310
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:55,040
about the fact that their employees are

2311
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,600
big threat. It rose to the point where

2312
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,840
we had to call in the Oakland police and

2313
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:01,679
have conversation with the B

2314
01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:03,280
administrator, myself, members of

2315
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,000
governing body and the mayor of Pton

2316
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,719
Lakes and the UPW.

2317
01:40:08,719 --> 01:40:10,639
Oakland's better than that. You can yell

2318
01:40:10,639 --> 01:40:13,040
at us till you blew in the face. Do not

2319
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,719
make threats against any employee that's

2320
01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:19,440
trying to do the best they can.

2321
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:22,639
I think you can bring us home.

2322
01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:27,600
>> Yeah. Hi. Uh just the green team. They didn't meet this month, but uh

2323
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,440
really the green team. I was so happy

2324
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,360
when I saw your your shirt. The green

2325
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,760
team is an amazing group of people. They

2326
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,719
do so much. Please uh volunteer. We

2327
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:39,600
always need help. there. Uh um and in

2328
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,920
fact uh we decided that uh uh when the

2329
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:45,360
weather permitting, we're going to meet

2330
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,000
in the in the community garden from now

2331
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,239
on because uh we might as well get the

2332
01:40:50,239 --> 01:40:53,679
use out of it. It's there. It's really nice. Um so weather

2333
01:40:53,679 --> 01:41:02,000
permitting, we'll be meeting in the in the community garden. Um they just do so much. It's a it's a a

2334
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:10,800
great a great organization. um uh the garbage. Look um um

2335
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:15,199
we're like like everyone said, we're we're trying to to to do our best.

2336
01:41:15,199 --> 01:41:18,880
Um $1.4 million. I don't know. That's a

2337
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,880
lot of money. I you could come up here,

2338
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,400
you could tell me it it's it's

2339
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,840
[clears throat] nothing. I If you got

2340
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:30,800
$1.4 million, I'll take it. Um if you sitting up here can can save the

2341
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,280
town $1.4 4 million and doesn't do it,

2342
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,480
they don't belong up here. $1.4 million.

2343
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:38,560
And that's just this contract. Going

2344
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,880
forward, we're going to it's going to

2345
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,040
we're going to save more because because

2346
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,239
the increase won't be on on on the on

2347
01:41:46,239 --> 01:41:48,239
the higher contract. We'll save more

2348
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:50,800
money. Do are they doing the the best

2349
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,239
job in the world? No, they're not doing

2350
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:53,440
the best job in the world. They're going

2351
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:55,760
to do the job that they can do. Um can

2352
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,520
it be better? Sure, it can be better.

2353
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,159
Um, we'll make sure that that Compton

2354
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,960
stays on on on their tail. We'll be on

2355
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,040
their tail making sure that they do it.

2356
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,920
I don't know. My garbage cans when I

2357
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,320
come home I and I I don't even want When

2358
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,000
I come home, my garbage cans are like

2359
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:19,679
soldiers. I I can't believe how good my my garbage cans. I'm embarrassed by what by what everybody by by what

2360
01:42:19,679 --> 01:42:21,840
everybody's saying. And I it's it's it's

2361
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,679
amazing how nice my garbage they've

2362
01:42:23,679 --> 01:42:26,320
never been that that that good. Um, and

2363
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,040
these are all just anecdotal things. You

2364
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,719
know, everybody's got good ones, bad

2365
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:32,800
ones. Um,

2366
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,280
there's going to be a a transitional

2367
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:40,800
process. Um, to to me, it it it brings

2368
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,600
it's it's like diapers. When when I when

2369
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,159
I started wi with uh with with my

2370
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:49,520
family, uh, we we we had pampers. We had

2371
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,440
to have pampers for my first kid. God

2372
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:53,600
forbid you've had any other bit you you

2373
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,600
know I'd call you a bad person a bad

2374
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,520
parent that that you wanted something

2375
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:59,760
other than pampers. Um the second kid

2376
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:02,000
comes around. You know what? We got to

2377
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,159
save some money. Uh Pampers is a lot of

2378
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:05,840
money. Let's try the storeboard once. We

2379
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:07,040
tried the storeboard once. Were they as

2380
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,119
good as Pampers? Maybe not. You know,

2381
01:43:09,119 --> 01:43:10,800
couple couple accidents here, a couple

2382
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,159
accidents there. I got a rug that's

2383
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:14,159
still complaining about the the accident

2384
01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:17,520
that we had. But but okay, we got

2385
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,760
through it. But now we save we saved the

2386
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,280
money on the diapers. Now by the time we

2387
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:22,960
get to the third kid, all right, we're

2388
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,480
still diapers, diapers, diapers.

2389
01:43:24,480 --> 01:43:26,639
Finally. Okay, we're out of diapers. Oh,

2390
01:43:26,639 --> 01:43:28,080
look, I'm going to save so much money.

2391
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,520
I'm not paying for diapers. I wish I was

2392
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,679
paying for diapers. I'm I'm I'm now I'm

2393
01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:36,080
paying for college. And because because

2394
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,400
I saved the money on the diapers back

2395
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:42,719
then, I could pay for the college. It it helps. And it's that's the whole

2396
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,560
thing. You can't and you can't come to

2397
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,960
the to to the meetings and and complain

2398
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,040
that that the taxes are high, but then

2399
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,400
when we save on on the other end, you

2400
01:43:52,400 --> 01:44:02,239
can't have it both ways. We're we're trying. Um $1.4 million. I I don't I don't Anybody in here? One

2401
01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:05,600
$1.4 million. If if you can get us $1.4

2402
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,920
million, we'll take it. We'll take it.

2403
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,040
$1.4 million just on this one contract.

2404
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,960
All right. It's It's a lot of money. You

2405
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,560
could you could you could poo poo it all

2406
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,280
you want. Uh but but it's a lot of

2407
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:24,080
money. And and to say that it's not is ridiculous. And and and like I said,

2408
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:27,679
if if you have a chance to save the town

2409
01:44:27,679 --> 01:44:30,159
$1.4 million and you don't do it, you

2410
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:32,000
don't belong up here.

2411
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,360
>> Thank you. That's it.

2412
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,080
>> All right. We are up to bills to be

2413
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,679
paid. Councilwoman,

2414
01:44:39,679 --> 01:44:46,229
>> yes. Bills to be paid is $829,541.77.

2415
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:47,360
So moved.

2416
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,280
>> Do I second Mr. Sy? Any discussion?

2417
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:52,800
>> Not seeing any. Roll call.

2418
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,480
>> Council President Talamini.

2419
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:55,119
>> Yes.

2420
01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:56,239
>> Councilman Dunbert.

2421
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:56,719
>> Yes.

2422
01:44:56,719 --> 01:44:57,840
>> Councilman Eert.

2423
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:58,239
>> Yes.

2424
01:44:58,239 --> 01:44:59,600
>> Councilman Pignatelli.

2425
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,080
>> Yes.

2426
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,280
>> Councilwoman Rose.

2427
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:01,679
>> Yes.

2428
01:45:01,679 --> 01:45:03,280
>> Councilman Saliani.

2429
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:04,159
>> Yes.

2430
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:06,400
>> Do we have a motion to adjurnn? [cough]

2431
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:07,440
>> So moved. Council

2432
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:08,800
>> Pnatelli. Do you have a second?

2433
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,639
>> Second. Councilman Rose.

2434
01:45:10,639 --> 01:45:11,760
>> All in favor?

2435
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,119
>> I

2436
01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:14,560
>> All right. The next pro council meeting

2437
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,400
will be held on Tuesday, September 8th

2438
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,320
at 7 p.m. here at the council chamber.

2439
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,920
Thank you everybody. Have a good night.

2440
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:23,320
Meeting a journ.