[0:00] Do you guys get this by the way?
>> You ready?
[0:02] » All right. Welcome everybody to our town
commission special budget workshop
[0:06] meeting. Kelly, would you call the role,
please?
[0:11] » Commissioner Cassidy
>> here.
[0:13] » Vice Mayor Cause
>> here.
[0:15] » And Mayor Pew
>> here.
[0:18] Let's stand for the pledge of
>> allegiance.
[0:23] To the flag [clears throat] and
to the republic for it stands one nation
[0:30] under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all.
[0:38] » Where's Lynette?
>> What happened? Where's Lynette?
[0:41] » I don't know.
>> Supposed to be calling in.
[0:43] » Oh, she's calling in.
All right. So, let's go and move right
[0:47] to the budget agenda items.
Manager.
[0:51] » Yeah. Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor,
Commissioner Cassidy, we are ready to
[0:55] move through quickly. I promised you a
halfhour meeting and so bear with me as
[0:59] we just move quickly through my
PowerPoint presentations.
[1:02] Welcome to the last day of summer and
your last budget workshop.
[1:09] » Yay.
>> Exactly. All right. Thank you for uh
[1:13] your patience and moving through this
and coming together one more time. So,
[1:17] as you can see from this slide, this
will be available to the public as well
[1:20] with the additional information, but I'm
just going to give the highlights here
[1:23] for
>> are we in this in the book or are we in
[1:25] the
>> we're on right here, which is the book.
[1:27] And that's why I didn't want to pass
that out just yet because that was free
[1:30] for you to go home with. That's your
take-home package.
[1:33] » Uh, so the slide in front of you is
where we're at. And we're speaking about
[1:37] the cost to operate and as uh
Commissioner Alla likes to say, what's
[1:40] it cost to keep the lights on and so
here it is. 11.39
[1:44] million is what it costs to keep the
lights on. Operations looks like this.
[1:48] Overall, um just over 5 million out of
the general fund, 5.33, about 300,000 in
[1:54] capital projects, and just over 500,000
in the building funds. As you can see,
[1:59] it's an increase over fiscal year 26 is
amended budget by about $948,000.
[2:06] Year-over-year growth is 9.1%.
Move on from that.
[2:11] personnel here. What we uh initially we
were talking about in some of our
[2:15] one-on- ons the growth of the V budget
versus like say CPI and I thought that
[2:20] this might be a better comparison for
everybody to take a look at and that's
[2:24] the this is personnel growth itself in
context to what other local governments
[2:31] utilize uh for the for the measurement
of how they're doing. And so that's um
[2:37] right now we are running
a Now I'm trying to remember what ECI
[2:43] stands for. Am I I just lost employment
cost index. Thank you. I'm like I always
[2:47] say ECI and then you lose it.
>> So you Yeah, we're 2.4% right now versus
[2:52] what the ECI is running which is 3.6%.
So you're saying that's 1.2 points
[2:58] below, which is nice, but we do need to
um do what we can next year. I've
[3:02] already spoke to our insurance carrier
and asked them for options next year for
[3:09] the commission to take a look at to make
sure that um to make sure you have
[3:14] options, you know. So, the health and
dental continues to grow and the
[3:18] national trend itself is at 6%, we're at
9.6.
[3:25] Next is the reserve position. So I I
worked yesterday uh really the last two
[3:30] Sundays with Commissioner Ayella with uh
the reserve itself and then also
[3:36] contingency conversations. Right now we
are projected to have about $6.5 million
[3:41] of unassigned general fund balance and
that equates to 60.5%
[3:47] of the expenses expected for fiscal year
27 which is the budget that you're
[3:52] taking a look at in these next couple of
weeks. And that is um an appropriate
[3:57] number for the amount of work that we're
doing at this time. Go ahead and take
[4:01] with the reserve itself and then also
contingency conversations. Right now we
[4:06] are
million dollars of unassigned general
[4:10] fund balance and that equates to 60.5%
of of the expenses expected for fiscal
[4:18] year 27 which is the budget that you're
taking a look at in these next couple of
[4:22] weeks. And that is um an appropriate
number for the amount of work that we're
[4:26] doing at this time.
>> By the way, that's 237 days
[4:29] » with the reserve itself and then also
contingency
[4:34] over 50% of the year. Correct. Yes.
>> Million dollar.
[4:37] » So the reser So what should it be?
Here's the slide that says what should
[4:40] it be? What should the range be and what
kind of risk should we anticipate? So I
[4:44] gave you a little column there of uh
risks that we look at and consider and
[4:49] and the government agencies all around
us do the same thing. And really, you
[4:54] know, what we've been trending is right
where we should be and that's between 50
[4:57] and 60% and that's what GFOA suggests as
well. Go ahead and move to the next
[5:05] slide. Slide. And so right now, as you
know, let's talk about what a
[5:10] contingency is. It's the annual budget
appropriation that we set aside to
[5:13] address unforeseen and nonrecurring or
unbudgeted needs that may arise during
[5:19] the first fiscal year.
uh then that's distinctly different from
[5:23] a fund balance reserve. The contingency
funds provide short-term in-year
[5:28] flexibility, but the long-term financial
risks are addressed through the town's
[5:31] unassigned fund balance reserves, which
again we we spoke about a target between
[5:35] 50%
>> and 60%.
[5:37] » That how how much of that because that's
what we budgeted last year. How much did
[5:41] we spend
>> of the contingency?
[5:44] » We uh we spent just about 200,000 of it.
>> Okay.
[5:49] » Yeah.
October.
[5:51] » Mhm.
>> Yes. Right now there is, but we're not
[5:53] done with the projects that we're in.
>> We have to.
[5:56] » And by the way, if we get in the weeds,
you can pull from the general reserve
[5:59] fund into contingency at a meeting.
>> I can if you allow it. Sure. I would I
[6:04] would need to bring it back if we came
back and and want if we needed to go
[6:07] into reserves. You would always have to
approve that. I would not be able to
[6:10] just move that, right?
>> And so here again, we're talking about
[6:14] uh contingency itself. So the
recommended target uh that I would give
[6:18] you instead of just a blanket 500,000
which is what we've done the last two
[6:23] years uh we should look really for a
best practice around the 4% mark. Um
[6:29] this year I'd like to stay with the
500,000 which is what I have in your
[6:32] budget
specifically because of the ambiguity
[6:35] around what's happening in Tallahassee.
But in the future, we could look at a
[6:40] best practice of around 4% and that
should give us good flexibility as the
[6:44] budget goes up and down.
>> Okay.
[6:47] » All right. Next slide. And then overall,
my recommendation would be not just the
[6:53] 4% for your annual contingency, but also
58% for the reserves itself.
[7:00] Combined, you're looking at 62% of
operations total for this particular
[7:06] year. flexibility of the budget
>> in the future. It would make sense.
[7:10] » All right.
>> That's a recommendation at this point.
[7:12] » Overall, my recommendation
>> from a policy perspective, I don't want
[7:15] to make it part of your financial policy
>> simply because I want to get past
[7:20] January and see what happens at the
state
[7:24] uh with amendment three. But this would
be a good guidance for best practices.
[7:29] And that's
what do you think about that? So, we can
[7:34] do a quick thumbs up, thumbs down on
that.
[7:37] No, I think it's a great idea.
>> You like it? Is that all right?
[7:39] » Just like I say, we got to wait after
after the run.
[7:42] » Yeah, I think I just think it's smart.
>> Yeah, right now it's uh we're dealing
[7:48] with so much ambiguity it would be wrong
to do a policy and set a policy until
[7:53] then.
>> Okay, that's good with that.
[7:56] » Yep.
>> Then we can move right into the big
[7:58] discussion and that's the water service
authority. Now remember this is a
[8:01] concept
and I'll um update the general you know
[8:07] public because and this is the first
time you guys get a chance to come
[8:10] together and talk about it but um Andrew
Mack is here and he's from Boon Beach.
[8:14] He's assistant city manager with the
city of Boon Beach. Thank you for being
[8:17] here in case we want to make you part of
our discussions Andrew and he's been a
[8:21] great partner. you know, the city of
Boon Beach approached staff initially uh
[8:26] and said, um, you know, we've have we've
got this concept of creating a regional
[8:31] water authority. They were initially in
conversations with Palm Beach County uh
[8:36] to see about really turning their water
services over to Palm Beach County
[8:40] because Palm Beach County gave um the
impression that they may want to merge
[8:46] or purchase them straight out. So when
those conversations weren't
[8:50] materializing to anything, uh, they came
up with this other concept. And so they
[8:55] approached me and then as a result, you
all were open enough to have a
[8:58] one-on-one about it. And so I
appreciated your individual time. And
[9:01] it's also important for you all to come
together and um, and discuss it and see,
[9:06] you know, what you think and maybe what
questions you might have. Right now
[9:12] it's, you know, it's a concept. It's a
model that it would be very similar to
[9:16] other models that are in South Florida
and throughout the country. Our closest
[9:21] model would be Ca Coast Border Service
Authority. Uh and this would enable us
[9:26] to move our infrastructure
u burdens if you will the infrastructure
[9:34] itself and the asset and the liabilities
over to the authority. And in the
[9:40] meantime though that there's a long
process that has to happen between now
[9:43] and it being um done should both
commissions because it would take both
[9:48] commissions to initiate it. Uh should we
get there and the methodology behind how
[9:54] we get there from my understanding is
and Andrew feel free to jump up and
[9:59] correct me if if I go sideways.
The state statute allows for uh two
[10:05] agencies to come together and create a
partnership to um to start it. And at
[10:10] that we can be partners in starting the
process itself. And then as as we come
[10:16] together there would be an opportunity
for the authority itself to reimburse
[10:22] the town and the city for any startup
cost. That's my wording, startup costs.
[10:28] And that would look like attorneys. We
would need to hire bond counsel. We
[10:33] would need to partner with uh any any
type of any type of additional services,
[10:39] consulting services, all of that would
get reimbursed and we would make sure
[10:43] that's part of any memorandum of
understanding that would be in the
[10:47] future.
>> So, can we break down the cost because I
[10:49] got a little
>> Yeah, I don't I would not there yet.
[10:53] » If we vote say yes, go and explore this.
That doesn't cost us any money. only if
[10:58] we then decide to sign on those fees or
those costs kick in.
[11:03] » So there's a yes and there's a no to
that question. That's a good question. I
[11:07] anticipate it to cost us some money. So
for instance,
[11:10] » staff time or
>> it'll be both. It'll be staff time. It
[11:13] will also be um consultants time. It
will be attorney's time. You'll want to
[11:18] get an attorney that's outside of our
town attorney that specializes in in
[11:22] these types of things that does it, you
know, like on a daily basis. And the
[11:25] reason for that is because we just want
to do all of our due diligence and if
[11:29] you all decide to move forward then it
would get reimbursed. But you know if
[11:35] you start to go down this path and it
doesn't seem like it's in the best
[11:38] interest of your residents and if it's
not a path you want to continue down
[11:42] then any cost that we've put out would
not we'd have to observe. Yeah.
[11:47] » Any estimate on the exploration cost?
Right now, I what I've put aside is I've
[11:52] put $200,000 aside underneath the town
managers um uh department for project
[11:59] unknown project issues, consultants,
etc. And then separately, I've put
[12:04] $100,000 aside in the legal for outside
special counsel.
[12:07] » So, a total of 300
>> 300,000. Now, I didn't add that to the
[12:10] budget. What I did is I took from our
capital improvement plan. I I removed
[12:15] the town hall hardening. Remember at one
of the workshops we discussed putting or
[12:20] the opportunity potentially of putting
the floodgates up that FTEM one. I know
[12:27] you hate that idea, mayor,
>> which means we couldn't get out when
[12:30] » Exactly. It didn't make Yeah. So anyway,
we took that 300,000 away from capital
[12:36] and um and then I just put it back into
the general fund and then we put that's
[12:40] where we have it earmarked right now.
you know, if I get your thumbs up, it'll
[12:44] stay there for now in the budget and
live there for now. Uh, as we move
[12:48] through the process, um, after October
1st, if we actually are on that path,
[12:53] then I would turn it into a project
number and move that fund just so that
[12:57] we can keep track of it, uh, completely
and, um, and and move it out that way.
[13:01] So, let me stop there and see what
questions you have so far.
[13:05] I can't imagine it would cost 300,000
towards me either.
[13:10] » But I mean I don't see the reason why we
wouldn't do.
[13:14] » Yeah, absolutely.
>> We've explored sewer, we've explored
[13:18] gas, we've now we're exploring the water
pipes.
[13:22] » As long as
>> could be part of this.
[13:23] » Mhm.
>> As long as you brought up sewers. This
[13:25] is the one thing I didn't understand in
this page three. I guess it is page
[13:30] four. why this is part of this package
because we suddenly jumped to 9 million
[13:36] in 2031 because it includes sewers and
it says we're going to be reimbursed for
[13:40] that from the water authority. I don't
[clears throat] get that.
[13:43] » Okay. So, uh I gave you a 10-year
capital improvement plan.
[13:48] » Yep. And in that t capital improvement
plan, I included the uh pricing
[13:54] estimates that you received when you did
your sewer study and I allocated that
[14:00] over a course of years. 2030 and 2031 is
the beginning of those years.
[14:05] » I get that.
>> Uh so it's
[14:07] for our purposes here that that service
has the opportunity to move with your
[14:13] water infrastructure pipes. So it would
be not only just your drinking water,
[14:18] you would have the opportunity to move
the sewer into the same authority
[14:21] » into the same authority.
>> Is that you guys hand will handle both?
[14:26] » Well, the the authority will handle
both. Yeah. Right. [laughter]
[14:32] » Thank you. Good afternoon. Andrew Mack,
deputy city manager for the city of Boon
[14:36] Beach. Um yes, this authority will um
oversee water and sewer for the city. Um
[14:41] it's a little bit unique for you guys
because you are septic in certain areas.
[14:45] So um
>> all areas
[14:47] » all areas, right? So we'll have to work
through that particular um subset. You
[14:52] know, how does it get converted over to
sewer cuz it's it's really a private
[14:57] system, you know, sewer on a private
property. So we're we're not taking over
[15:00] private property, but that's something
that we could do in the future and plan
[15:04] with you guys.
>> So if let's in fact we did that. um is
[15:09] that 9,000 it's not part of you you
mentioned the bond that goes across all
[15:13] users that this is outside of that.
>> Correct.
[15:16] » Cuz it's specific to our use.
>> Correct. And it probably would be more
[15:19] like um either a little subset a
district within there or a special
[15:24] taxing author district within that that
area that would cover that cost. So
[15:28] those costs would be borne by that that
area. Gotcha. Um there are we have been
[15:32] successful um I think I mentioned this
at some of our one-on- ones that with
[15:36] Tana Habaluxo we were successful in
doing some septic to sewer conversions.
[15:40] So those grants are also available still
available through the authority if
[15:43] that's that how that goes.
>> So we're talking about 10 years from
[15:46] » yeah it's future cost now 10 years
>> we might be talking never
[15:51] » that's
>> yeah I think I think right now the
[15:54] biggest thing it's going to be the cost
and if it ever comes mandated that
[15:57] that'll be the biggest catch for
everybody.
[15:59] » Exactly.
>> Yeah. So, right now we're just talking
[16:01] about the water.
>> Um, we correct. Right. So, um,
[16:05] » that's why it stopped Saturday.
>> I do apologize. Uh, we we were scheduled
[16:09] to hear this item for you guys and we
just didn't. Um, one of our meetings got
[16:14] rescheduled and when we met with the
commissioners, they wanted a little bit
[16:18] more time to digest some of the
information that we we provide them. Um,
[16:22] namely some of the stuff that we were
looking through that we would like to
[16:25] get a little bit more detail on when
even before we come back to you is how
[16:29] the board makeup, which was a lot of our
questions as well. So, uh, that was one
[16:33] of the reasons why we didn't get it.
Plus, it also gave us time to get back
[16:36] to the commission and also speak to the
county um because we're still in
[16:39] negotiations with the county. So, we
needed to kind of walk before we ran.
[16:43] Um, so brought something back to the
commission as a discussion item to get
[16:47] their their direction on which way to
go. This this was initial exploratory
[16:51] conversations that we have with your
manager, but it does look like this
[16:54] would be the direction that we would go.
>> So none of the exploratory money is
[16:58] going towards exploring the potentials.
>> No, correct. Not for my last thing. I
[17:03] just got this in the mail literally
before I arrived at the meeting. I
[17:06] assume you guys put this out.
>> Yeah, that's our our increase for our
[17:10] water rates,
>> right? This is the amendment we were
[17:12] talking about alerting the public. Did
you get this? We we received
[17:16] notification and u we put out in the
social media world you did the links and
[17:21] we put it on our Facebook page and we
put it on the website as well
[17:25] » cuz it looks I think I found a 17.2%.
>> That's correct. Yeah. Yes sir.
[17:31] » Okay. I I do plan on bringing this as a
discussion on September 16th. That is
[17:36] our next meeting that we're scheduled to
talk to the commission on for this and
[17:40] » that's his commission bring it to this
point. Okay. Thanks Andrew.
[17:46] So right now, you know, it's an
opportunity for you all to speak amongst
[17:49] each other and then also just to give me
a thumbs up or thumbs down on allocating
[17:53] those funds as I said uh so that they're
reserved for that use.
[17:58] » I'm a positive.
[18:02] Yeah, that sounds I mean it's it'd be
nothing would be in our case why would
[18:08] we not especially what we have to spend
on fixing our own
[18:13] » as you see in the 10-year um plan
right now with this little bit of
[18:18] information that we have which is the
study that you all did with your sewer
[18:23] and then what we know from the
infrastructure that has to get replaced
[18:27] with the water pipes and the water manes
we're looking at just around $83 million
[18:33] that has the potential to come away from
our funds and move into the special
[18:38] authority for them to take care of.
>> Yeah, but that's including shore.
[18:44] » We should kind of in the discussion
Yeah. separate that out.
[18:47] » Separating water is water is most
important.
[18:53] » We can have in the back of our minds,
but it shouldn't intrude on our thinking
[18:56] about water basically. I you know 10
it's 10 10 years out that
[19:02] so yeah positive thumbs up let's proceed
and just flush it out see what it comes
[19:07] up with and then we can make decisions
from there
[19:09] » okay very good and I know there's
commissioner August is online now
[19:16] » commissioner August is online now as
well just wanted to make sure
[19:20] » oh I thought that was somebody with you
but I was thinking this is the weak part
[19:28] I'm sorry. You look good.
>> Hello, Commissioner.
[19:32] » Well, I did get three thumbs up, so I
don't know if
[19:36] » you should go like this just to
>> Can you Can you hear me?
[19:38] » There we go.
>> There we go.
[19:39] » There you go. All right. Thank you.
>> Purple.
[19:44] » Any other questions on that issue?
>> No.
[19:48] » All right. So, with that, I'll pass out
to you um what came in just today. So, I
[19:53] haven't had a chance to review it, but
this is the water and wastewater system
[19:56] appraisal.
>> You already updated version.
[19:59] » There's another one, sir.
>> Oh, since this morning. That's right. I
[20:02] saw you this morning.
>> Yeah.
[20:04] » This is the updated one this morning.
[20:08] » So, is there an executive summary
somewhere?
[20:10] » I will give you an executive summary,
but if you go to page two, there's your
[20:14] executive summary. It's the letter from
uh Steven McDonald who is the author.
[20:18] » Okay.
>> And so as you can see he's got he has
[20:21] the valuation
market valuation including sewer
[20:26] services here at 5,500,000.
>> Just the water just the water alone is
[20:32] 4.
>> Yeah.
[20:33] » 4 and a half million. Yeah.
[20:38] » Is there anything else that I'm missing
Andrew before I move on?
[20:45] Okay, Mr. Mayor, I see somebody raising
a hand in the audience. I didn't know if
[20:49] you wanted to address it. It's a
workshop, so we don't normally have
[20:52] public to be heard at a workshop.
>> Come on, Christine. You want to say
[20:55] something?
>> Since you're the only public here, I
[20:59] mean, besides the press. Not saying
you're not public.
[21:02] » Christine Schulty at Seven Adams Road.
All of a sudden, I I I I've um Where
[21:09] I've been here a long time. Where does
this water come to a barrier island
[21:14] where we all live? Where where does it
come from?
[21:17] » Comes across where the bridges are. It
comes across the inter coastal into
[21:21] feeds into
ocean ridge.
[21:24] » So it's it's water from the inter
coastal that we're drinking. No
[21:30] pipe goes underneath.
>> It comes from Boon.
[21:35] » It comes from Boon. Yeah. That the
tower, right? Right. Yeah. But then that
[21:41] water comes from where? In the tower.
>> It comes from wells and different places
[21:47] from around.
[21:55] » Right. Right. Okay. All right. I was
just wondering, you know. Yes. Yeah.
[21:59] because um um it's it's hard when when
[clears throat] personally uh when you
[22:07] have to chlorinate 3 weeks, you know,
and and buy bottled water.
[22:13] It's
>> Yeah, I I understand. I I understand
[22:17] what you say that I knew, but I was
wondering how far away this is water.
[22:23] Thank you very much. You're welcome. So,
we need
[22:25] » you brought up the champagne glass. I
always curious about that. Is it enough?
[22:29] Where does that serve?
>> Yeah, but I mean who like how big an
[22:34] area?
>> Andrew, can you come to the micro? Sure.
[22:37] » It's just that this isn't part of the
discussion. I'll just go here. So, it's
[22:40] really not an area. It provides um
pressure to the system. So, that's what
[22:46] the tower is there for. We do hold water
there. We pump it up to the top and then
[22:49] it falls down through there and provides
keep static pressure on the system. Then
[22:54] we do have other um storage tanks
throughout the city and areas that we
[22:59] pump water into the system.
>> So we're not necessarily drinking the
[23:01] water in the champagne glass. It's just
pressurizing the water in the pipe.
[23:04] » Some of that water does go into the
system. Yes, it does.
[23:07] » And they also have pumps also to correct
increase the pressure as well.
[23:12] » Structure.
>> Yeah. So if you actually look next to
[23:15] the the champagne glass, there's
actually a storage tank, a smaller one,
[23:18] which is which is where we're storing
most of the water. So yeah.
[23:22] » Thank you. Right there,
>> Mr.
[23:25] » Yeah. No, ever since I've been voting,
you see it at night, it's a perfect
[23:28] landmark. Yeah.
>> Then you started lighting that up, which
[23:31] was even better.
>> Mr. Mack, do you need a letter from the
[23:35] commission or anything from the
commission to move forward to break to
[23:38] your commission?
>> Yeah.
[23:40] » A little bit over.
>> Um, I think actually an email would
[23:43] probably be sufficient. If you could
just shoot me an email, kind of recap
[23:47] them what happened, what happened today.
>> Sure. Um, and then I can put that as a
[23:50] part of the backup, you know, let them
know that we did have some initial talks
[23:53] with you guys and they were positive.
Um, so that will help accelerate what
[23:57] we're doing.
>> Okay. Very good. I'll send that email on
[24:00] behalf of the what happened today for
the commission and that'll get us going.
[24:04] » Look forward to it and we'll be back
soon.
[24:07] » Andrew, thank you.
>> Thank you, sir. All right. Very good.
[24:09] That's it. Thank you, sir. Have a great
day.
[24:12] » Well, you don't want to hear about fast
fast facility rentals. [laughter]
[24:17] $50.
>> Thank you so much.
[24:20] » Thank you.
>> All right. So, the next item up, uh,
[24:25] Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, and Commissioners
is
[24:27] » You don't hear about facilities.
>> Enough. Everybody left. Uh, facility
[24:32] rentals. This is just a a nice simple
change that we were looking at. One of
[24:36] the concerns with the facility rentals
was really just making sure that we
[24:40] cover the cost of keeping the lights on
if it's an event that's at night. So,
[24:44] there was some discussion about um how
to make it easier for the the few groups
[24:48] that we allow to use it, but um it
started to get over complicated as we
[24:53] were trying to make it easy. You know
how that goes. And so here, instead of
[24:57] it being $10, I'm asking to change the
fee from $10 an hour to $50 for the
[25:02] event itself. And $20 for all other uses
that are approximately an hour or less
[25:09] than two hours. So all of the uses I
mean like HOAs that want to have their
[25:13] meetings here that's what we're speaking
about and we've narrowed the categories
[25:17] down to simply the HOAs or the POAS and
then the clubs that you have or civic
[25:22] organizations that you have identified
as partners with the community and those
[25:27] are the only ones that we're looking to
partner with and that would be Starbrite
[25:31] Garden Club um and anything else that
you bring forward and recognize with us.
[25:36] The turtle people recognize the turtle
people,
[25:39] » they're not really a civic court.
>> Yeah.
[25:45] » Yeah. And the reason
>> Well, I don't I mean to me it's very
[25:47] reasonable.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
[25:49] » I mean,
>> we agree.
[25:51] » Inexpensive. [clears throat]
>> Everything else is going to remain the
[25:53] same, which means that if they want to
uh have police coverage or if they want
[25:57] to have someone set up or, you know, or
break down for them, then those are a
[26:01] little extra, but we haven't changed
what the that extra is. So it'll remain
[26:04] the same at $75 for public works person
to be able to break down and set up and
[26:10] then the same fees for whatever at that
you know whatever year it is what the
[26:14] fee is for a minimum of three hours for
a police officer should they need
[26:17] detail.
>> And you've discussed all these with
[26:19] Stella.
>> Yeah. And the volunteers I want to make
[26:23] sure she's not mad. Well, you know,
there was a discussion and we started
[26:26] with the discussion of um you know,
potentially $300 like a membership fee
[26:32] that you would charge each one of the
civic groups and then allow them to have
[26:37] a certain amount of
>> uh opportunities to come during the
[26:41] course of the year.
>> Yeah. Then you constantly have to to
[26:44] write it down or put it on a computer
and make sure you keep track of it.
[26:48] » Right. So, in our in our quest to
simplify it, it really just became over
[26:53] complicated. That's so It's easy as you
go,
[26:55] » right? So, if I said to them, look, you
got to pay $300 for the for the year,
[27:00] then they'll want to definitely make
sure they get the $300 worth. They may
[27:04] come six times a year or eight times a
year, but if it's $50, they'll come when
[27:07] they need it. That's it.
>> And was there any discussion about
[27:10] limiting the number of times like
>> Yeah.
[27:12] » once a month or
>> I don't I we we really haven't been in a
[27:16] situation where it's been a conflict
yet. Okay. Unless you all know something
[27:19] more. I
>> I think there was one group that had two
[27:22] things in it
>> but that was unneutral.
[27:26] » So I only have one question under use
conditions which is page 18 of 19. Uh
[27:31] the first one the facilities are
unsuitable for and shall not be provided
[27:35] for major private social events such as
wedding banquetss, birthday
[27:39] celebrations, anniversary parties,
retirement parties, political
[27:42] fundraising or campaign events and other
similar events. I think we should just
[27:46] agree that it's at the town manager's
discretion
[27:50] about what other similar events are.
Somebody might come up with something
[27:54] not thinking of it. You go, "Oh,
>> yes. I think it I think it falls into
[27:57] that category." Yeah. I would I would be
the determining factor and if they
[28:02] didn't agree with it, they'd have to
come back to you. You know, for
[28:04] instance, we had someone who wanted to
have a a baby shower.
[28:07] » It's just, you know, it's not what it's
not what we're here for to have a baby
[28:11] shower.
>> That's the same law. We should wait a
[28:14] minute.
>> There's a lovely
[28:16] » if somebody wants to pay a thousand
bucks to use the tunnel.
[28:19] » There's a lovely facility right up the
street at the city hall in front of city
[28:22] hall in Boon Beach. And you know those
those rooms there are are well priced.
[28:26] So I I don't feel like we're not
providing a service. We're just
[28:31] » variety
>> or that houses.
[28:33] » That's a great
>> They have a nice club down there.
[28:35] » Nice. Yeah.
>> We just have to know what we have to
[28:38] know what we are. We have to know what
our limitations are. That's all. How we
[28:41] doing on spine? 329.
>> Perfect.
[28:45] » Okay.
>> So, we're all on board with the U
[28:47] facility, right?
>> Yep. All right. Good.
[28:51] » That's all I needed from you today. Is
there anything? What I'd like you to do
[28:54] is I'm sending uh to the the
commissioners that are not here right
[28:59] now and to you all. I'll send you the
budget draft document digitally so you
[29:04] can review it and look at it and let me
know if you like the formatting or if
[29:08] you want something changed before
September 14th. Right now it's still a
[29:11] live and breathing document. We might
have some changes between now and then
[29:14] but I don't anticipate anything large.
It might be a thousand here, a thousand
[29:17] there where we find a mistake but at
this point in time um it looks ready for
[29:23] your review.
>> Right.
[29:24] » Okay.
>> Right. If nothing else say meeting
[29:27] ajourned.
>> Thank you.
[29:28] » Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
[29:32] » Bigger P.