1 00:00:06,044 --> 00:00:10,071 This is a regular city council meeting of the City of Ocean Shores. It is September 2 00:00:10,071 --> 00:00:17,007 22, 2026, and the time is 6:00 p.m. The meeting is being held at the Ocean Shores 3 00:00:17,007 --> 00:00:22,083 Convention Center. The meetings are simulcast and archived on KOSW radio. Meetings 4 00:00:22,083 --> 00:00:28,083 are live streamed and closed captioning with closed captioning and may be accessed 5 00:00:28,083 --> 00:00:35,034 on the city website under council recordings. The meetings will be Viewed on cable 6 00:00:35,036 --> 00:00:40,024 channel 68 Thursdays at 12:00 p.m. and Sundays at 10:00 a.m. We have a roll call, 7 00:00:40,032 --> 00:00:46,005 please? Council member sires here. Council member Taylor here. Council member Grebel 8 00:00:46,029 --> 00:00:51,017 here. Council member Klein here. Council member Scott. Council member Wills here. 9 00:00:51,038 --> 00:00:56,025 Council member Julie here. Tom, can you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please? 10 00:01:04,062 --> 00:01:05,012 To the 11 00:01:07,072 --> 00:01:08,045 One nation. 12 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:27,062 Can I get approval for tonight's agenda? Yes, Denise. I move to amend the agenda 13 00:01:27,064 --> 00:01:34,027 to remove item number 15, the executive session. Second Do we have a second, uh, 14 00:01:34,056 --> 00:01:42,013 any, uh, comments? All in favor? Aye. All right, thank you. Unanimous, 15 00:01:42,049 --> 00:01:49,075 um, I move to approve. I move to approve the agenda as amended. Second, all in favor. 16 00:01:50,089 --> 00:01:58,024 All right, thank you. All of. In favor All right. Uh, we don't have any ceremonies 17 00:01:58,024 --> 00:02:04,024 or proclamations. Uh, no announcements. We have a board and committee vacancies, 18 00:02:04,033 --> 00:02:09,007 2 vacancies on the radio board, 2 vacancies on the building code board of appeals, 19 00:02:10,005 --> 00:02:15,004 2 vacancies on the parks board, and 1 vacancy on the planning commission. There are 20 00:02:15,004 --> 00:02:19,095 no appointments tonight. No other reports, so we'll move right into public communication. 21 00:02:20,066 --> 00:02:26,093 Public communication to councils intended for communication to the city council regarding 22 00:02:26,093 --> 00:02:33,042 general council business or policy not on tonight's agenda. Address comments or questions 23 00:02:33,042 --> 00:02:38,093 to the city council body, not to an individual council member, staff, or audience 24 00:02:38,093 --> 00:02:44,001 member. Please limit your comments to 3 minutes. This is not a question and answer 25 00:02:44,001 --> 00:02:49,027 time, and the council cannot engage in conversation with the public. Personal attacks, 26 00:02:49,038 --> 00:02:54,036 abusive language, slanderous remarks, or disruptive behavior will not be tolerated. 27 00:02:55,023 --> 00:03:00,023 If any If another audience member is disrupting you, please raise your hand, and 28 00:03:00,023 --> 00:03:05,069 I will pause the meeting and address the disruption. No person may use the public 29 00:03:05,069 --> 00:03:12,073 comment, period, for the purpose of a campaign or advertisement. The time will begin 30 00:03:12,073 --> 00:03:17,032 once the citizen has started their public comment. At 2 minutes, you will see a green 31 00:03:17,034 --> 00:03:22,021 light followed by a yellow light indicating 30 seconds remain in the public comment 32 00:03:22,021 --> 00:03:27,042 period. The red light will notify the reader that the public comment time has ended. 33 00:03:27,094 --> 00:03:34,009 So, uh, what do we got, Scott? Alright, we have 3 that are general public comments 34 00:03:34,009 --> 00:03:37,013 tonight. The first, Tom Hamilton, duty, honor, and sacrifice. 35 00:03:50,078 --> 00:03:57,046 Tom Hamilton, Ocean Shores. Recently, the city had the honor of hosting the memorial 36 00:03:57,053 --> 00:04:05,003 for our fallen heroes. Cost of Freedom Tribute, including Vietnam War, 9/11 tribute, 37 00:04:05,041 --> 00:04:10,014 and Global War on Terror. What a great opportunity for the citizens to experience 38 00:04:10,016 --> 00:04:15,002 this moving exhibit. I first had the opportunity to visit the Vietnam Wall in our 39 00:04:15,002 --> 00:04:20,067 nation's capital 40 years ago. It's a powerful memorial to my fallen brothers and 40 00:04:20,067 --> 00:04:26,073 sisters. I want to give a, a, I want to give a public shout out to Stephanie Cobb. 41 00:04:27,064 --> 00:04:31,066 For bringing together a group of veterans and grateful citizens that gathered on 42 00:04:31,066 --> 00:04:38,034 Point Brown. With a flag salute honor our guard during the opening parade. She took 43 00:04:38,034 --> 00:04:42,031 the initiative to purchase the flags and encourage people to come out and participate. 44 00:04:42,095 --> 00:04:47,061 Lined up on the same locations, the weekly protests that are held on Point Brown, 45 00:04:47,098 --> 00:04:54,079 Vietnam and other veterans. Individuals who for 60 years have protested against injustice 46 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:59,087 and against the war, and others stood for more than an hour holding more than 20 47 00:04:59,087 --> 00:05:06,073 flags along both sides of the parade route to honor this memorial. These are also 48 00:05:06,073 --> 00:05:11,058 among the same people who on a weekly basis protest against the injustices that they 49 00:05:11,058 --> 00:05:17,084 see today in our republic. They understand the sacrifices our sisters and brothers 50 00:05:18,008 --> 00:05:22,065 made so that they can exercise their freedom of speech, a freedom. 51 00:05:30,008 --> 00:05:36,091 Speech that this city administration wanted to take away or at the very least restrict 52 00:05:36,091 --> 00:05:41,071 with an ordinance a few months ago. It is unfortunate that the city administration 53 00:05:41,071 --> 00:05:45,099 missed an opportunity to include the local veterans in its own flag tribute on Point 54 00:05:45,099 --> 00:05:51,024 Brown. Instead, they ignored the chance for a more inclusive flag line, first asking 55 00:05:51,024 --> 00:05:55,023 Ms. Cobb to participate and then abandoning when she could provide many veterans. 56 00:05:55,096 --> 00:06:02,058 Only using paid city employees on the clock, not even providing each with a full-sized 57 00:06:02,058 --> 00:06:09,001 flag, at least two waving tiny flags, including the mayor. Shame on the city for 58 00:06:09,001 --> 00:06:13,008 not wanting to be inclusive. The veterans and protesters who understood the sacrifices 59 00:06:13,082 --> 00:06:19,065 that our fallen heroes made fully grasp the patriotic duty. Thank you to Stephanie 60 00:06:19,065 --> 00:06:22,021 Cobb and all those who took part. 61 00:06:27,068 --> 00:06:29,023 Katie Wallace, Public Arts. 62 00:06:44,002 --> 00:06:49,002 Hi, I'm Katie Wallace. I've lived here in Ocean Shores about more than 10 years now, 63 00:06:49,004 --> 00:06:53,098 and I'm here today to talk about public art. Um, when I first saw the whale out in 64 00:06:53,098 --> 00:07:00,072 the median, I was so excited. I thought we're gonna see public art here everywhere 65 00:07:00,074 --> 00:07:07,000 and we'll, we'll have more opportunity for that. Um, we have hundreds of artists 66 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,056 here in Ocean Shores, so many of them, and of all sorts of different medias. 67 00:07:14,033 --> 00:07:19,079 Uh, but, and we keep asking in this town, what is our identity? What should it be? 68 00:07:20,017 --> 00:07:26,014 I think like beachy art town, it has worked for a ton of other towns that 69 00:07:34,007 --> 00:07:39,069 That are tourist towns and I think that should be part of our identity and we're 70 00:07:39,069 --> 00:07:46,077 already adopting that. Um, however, as much as I love to see the wood carvings. Um, 71 00:07:46,091 --> 00:07:52,037 there's other forms of media out there. I have a lot of ideas. Um, some of them are, 72 00:07:52,061 --> 00:07:56,006 we have a metal arts guy in town. I don't know if you've seen his work at the garage 73 00:07:56,006 --> 00:08:01,056 or over at Oakhead, but it's beautiful and that could be something that we would 74 00:08:01,056 --> 00:08:06,092 do. Oh, sorry, that, that could be something we could do, um, a giant metal arts 75 00:08:06,092 --> 00:08:12,067 display. Uh, we have Gavin Miller who used to live here, who's done some mural artistry 76 00:08:12,067 --> 00:08:19,095 here. Um, he's wonderful. Uh, we could do some more murals, uh. Some other ideas. 77 00:08:20,008 --> 00:08:25,062 We could make a giant screen here in the convention center and display all of our 78 00:08:25,068 --> 00:08:32,031 uh wonderful photographers like Skip Bradcliffe and Matt Cifer and TK Ramsey, make 79 00:08:32,031 --> 00:08:37,088 a giant thing. Skip could make a frame for it with his woodwork and that would help 80 00:08:37,088 --> 00:08:44,062 promote the nature and the beauty of ocean shores as well. Uh. Uh, we have Gina McCauley. 81 00:08:44,071 --> 00:08:50,042 She makes little felting things, but we, we could have her make a giant black bear 82 00:08:50,042 --> 00:08:54,081 and put it out there. You know, the lobby of the convention center. These are just 83 00:08:54,083 --> 00:09:02,002 a few of my ideas. I'm sure that the um artists here have many, many more. Um, and 84 00:09:02,002 --> 00:09:07,066 right now I don't know who gets to choose the art here and if the artists are being 85 00:09:07,066 --> 00:09:12,078 paid or not and any information that I've tried to get so far nobody really knows 86 00:09:12,078 --> 00:09:19,022 who's, who's choosing it. Um, the arts commission is kind of falling apart. So, um, 87 00:09:19,035 --> 00:09:26,006 on that note, I think the city council should try to make an actual arts board that 88 00:09:26,006 --> 00:09:33,073 meets and chooses and starts projects that we could do here in Ocean Shores. Um, 89 00:09:34,094 --> 00:09:42,064 That way, everyone chooses and more artists will get exposure. Um And we could 90 00:09:42,064 --> 00:09:47,088 start more, more festivals, work some of these things into the festivals like maybe 91 00:09:47,088 --> 00:09:53,027 we have giant ducks at the jeep thing that people paint. I don't know. Anyways, um, 92 00:09:53,065 --> 00:09:56,004 I, I think that that would be time. Thank you. 93 00:09:59,024 --> 00:10:03,075 OK, then lastly for general public comment, Taylor Priest, transparency, art, and 94 00:10:03,075 --> 00:10:04,005 traps. 95 00:10:13,044 --> 00:10:17,023 Thank you, Mayor and council members for this time. My name is Taylor Priest. I've 96 00:10:17,023 --> 00:10:22,049 been a Shores resident for about 8 years. And I'd like to start with a quote this 97 00:10:22,049 --> 00:10:28,089 evening by Joseph Pulitzer. There is not a crime, not a dodge, there is not a trick, 98 00:10:29,001 --> 00:10:35,095 there is not a swindle, there is not a vice which does not live by secrecy. It is 99 00:10:35,095 --> 00:10:41,063 high time for a new mayor in Ocean Shores, one who practices transparency and respects 100 00:10:41,063 --> 00:10:46,074 the democratic process, rather than one who thinks democracy is owned by one political 101 00:10:46,076 --> 00:10:52,082 party. For all his talk of being nonpartisan, Frank Elderwin is anything but, and 102 00:10:52,082 --> 00:10:58,011 people on both sides of the aisle are well aware. People in shores who participate 103 00:10:58,013 --> 00:11:04,002 less need to be aware and beware. It seems that Mayor Eldwin has plans to place a 104 00:11:04,002 --> 00:11:09,068 statue of Poseidon, whose design is entirely inappropriate for ocean shores, at the 105 00:11:09,068 --> 00:11:15,006 north gate. Citizens have had no input into this, but they certainly should. Why 106 00:11:15,006 --> 00:11:22,016 is the artwork purchased and by the city and displayed here chosen by the very partisan 107 00:11:22,016 --> 00:11:27,072 mayor Frank Aldwin alone? Scott Anderson has stood in front of this body and boldly, 108 00:11:27,081 --> 00:11:34,000 I believe, knowingly lied about the trapping ordinance which absolutely allows whatever 109 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,084 kind of contraption the trapper decides to use, including one that will kill the 110 00:11:38,084 --> 00:11:45,033 animal. It's in the ordinance. What Scott is keeping hidden is that this ordinance 111 00:11:45,033 --> 00:11:50,052 sets up the fox to watch the chicken house. The WCO, who is in charge of making sure 112 00:11:50,052 --> 00:11:55,036 sufficient preventative measures have been taken, only gets paid if they trap an 113 00:11:55,036 --> 00:12:01,087 animal. For these problems, William O. Douglas left these perfect words Sunlight 114 00:12:01,087 --> 00:12:03,063 is the best disinfectant. 115 00:12:16,002 --> 00:12:22,095 That concludes public comment. Next up we have a city administrator's report by Scott 116 00:12:22,095 --> 00:12:27,048 Anderson. Pardon me, I'm gonna do, uh, two things cause I'm gonna have to audible 117 00:12:27,048 --> 00:12:31,055 one and be prepared because I have absolutely no notes for it. So I'll just do this. 118 00:12:31,093 --> 00:12:35,004 Uh, so the first one is Ocean Forest Freshwaterways, and this I do have notes for. 119 00:12:35,013 --> 00:12:39,076 Uh, I live on, uh, the Bell Canals, and I just wanna briefly address the conditions 120 00:12:39,076 --> 00:12:45,068 of our freshwaterways. Um, I, I understand that we had a really, really beautiful 121 00:12:45,086 --> 00:12:50,049 waterway system up until the last few weeks. And this, we haven't had rain, uh, it's 122 00:12:50,049 --> 00:12:54,021 getting dry. And so I understand some of the firsthand concerns that are being expressed 123 00:12:54,021 --> 00:12:59,044 by our, by our residents. Uh, the waterways and the ocean shores are one of the things 124 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:03,069 that make us absolutely unique. And when I bought a home on Ocean Shores, I, I made 125 00:13:03,069 --> 00:13:07,069 sure it was on the waterways themselves, so I could take advantage of this. Uh, I 126 00:13:07,069 --> 00:13:12,011 wanna emphasize the city has been working actively. To improve the health and quality 127 00:13:12,011 --> 00:13:16,094 of our freshwater systems in partnerships with our Freshwater Waste Advisory Board 128 00:13:17,036 --> 00:13:21,019 and its engaged community members, and the city has undertaken a number of efforts, 129 00:13:21,055 --> 00:13:27,011 including installing aerators to improve oxygenation and circulation, uh, conducting 130 00:13:27,011 --> 00:13:31,098 aquatic vegetation harvesting, implementing methods to reduce the car population, 131 00:13:32,033 --> 00:13:36,093 and is working to reduce phosphorus levels within our waterways. Uh, these efforts 132 00:13:36,093 --> 00:13:40,085 reflect an ongoing commitment to improving our water system. I also wanna say a shout 133 00:13:40,085 --> 00:13:45,000 out to our Freshwater Waste Advisory Board, which in my time of being here I believe 134 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,089 is one of the most active and productive boards we've ever had in the city. So I 135 00:13:49,089 --> 00:13:54,093 really thank all the work they do. Now, currently we are responding to cyanobacteria 136 00:13:55,014 --> 00:14:00,021 or blue-green algae, uh, that's blooming in our canals. Uh, we're not alone in this 137 00:14:00,021 --> 00:14:04,054 section across Western Washington. You're seeing this. Uh, samples have been submitted 138 00:14:04,054 --> 00:14:10,038 for laboratory testing, and we expect these toxin results to come in on Friday, and 139 00:14:10,038 --> 00:14:14,098 appropriate warning signs have been posted at public docks and boat launches. Uh, 140 00:14:15,002 --> 00:14:20,014 until those results are received, however, we're asking everyone to use caution and 141 00:14:20,014 --> 00:14:26,014 when in doubt, stay out. Uh, avoid water with visible algae, keep children and pets 142 00:14:26,014 --> 00:14:31,065 away from affected water, and do not drink untreated surface water. There is no single 143 00:14:31,065 --> 00:14:36,053 or immediate solution to maintaining a freshwater system of this size. Uh, our approach 144 00:14:36,053 --> 00:14:41,025 must continue to be collaborative, science-based, and focused on long term improvement, 145 00:14:41,058 --> 00:14:45,057 and the city will continue working alongside not only the Fresh Waterways Advisory 146 00:14:45,057 --> 00:14:50,042 Board. But Herrera and some of our appropriate experts that we utilized uh to strengthen 147 00:14:50,042 --> 00:14:55,062 and maintain uh our this important asset to our community. So that's Freshwaterways 148 00:14:55,062 --> 00:14:59,054 update, uh, this one I'm just gonna ad lib because um I've been working on it all 149 00:14:59,054 --> 00:15:04,021 day today and since it got brought up, it was about, uh, the arts and ocean shores 150 00:15:04,047 --> 00:15:08,002 and what some of the things that we're doing. So some of the things may not even 151 00:15:08,002 --> 00:15:11,086 be known, uh, and I was gonna announce this actually at the next meeting because 152 00:15:11,086 --> 00:15:16,015 I just didn't want to get announced too much ahead of time. But, um, some of the, 153 00:15:16,033 --> 00:15:20,028 some of the art mediums that we're working on are with film. And we have entered 154 00:15:20,028 --> 00:15:25,036 into a sort of a partnership with uh Dark and Stormy Productions, which is trying 155 00:15:25,036 --> 00:15:30,008 to market Ocean Shores, and I'll try to get this all in as a destination to both 156 00:15:30,008 --> 00:15:35,059 shoot films. Um, and to highlight films and to bring in production companies, we 157 00:15:35,059 --> 00:15:40,019 have a lot of advantages that people don't have in places like California and that 158 00:15:40,019 --> 00:15:43,035 because you can actually drive right out to our beach and shoot. We've got some kind 159 00:15:43,035 --> 00:15:47,075 of esoteric landscape around us, and they're sort of been pushing this vehicle and 160 00:15:47,075 --> 00:15:50,095 they've received LTAC funding for their film. They have a film festival that's coming 161 00:15:50,095 --> 00:15:53,011 up, so I'd like to announce that the. 162 00:15:58,098 --> 00:16:03,027 Dark and Stormy Film Fest will be at our Ocean Shore Cinema, and that will be on 163 00:16:03,027 --> 00:16:09,004 Saturday, October 17th, uh, and October 18th. They're gonna have a lot of neat like 164 00:16:09,004 --> 00:16:12,044 avant-garde horror films. Uh, before that, the evening before, they're gonna have 165 00:16:12,044 --> 00:16:18,000 the Rocky Shore Rocky Horror Picture Show, uh, on the 16th, and it's just kind of 166 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,016 a fun way to sort of bring the community together through film. We also have our 167 00:16:22,016 --> 00:16:25,048 first commitment we've been working on this with the producers of a film that's gonna 168 00:16:25,048 --> 00:16:30,022 be called Neverland. Uh, and it's sort of based on Peter Pan. Uh, the, the production 169 00:16:30,022 --> 00:16:34,000 company is a legitimate real production company. They're gonna be hiring about 100 170 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,069 extras. They're gonna be, first of all, staying in Ocean Shores for a number of days, 171 00:16:37,085 --> 00:16:41,006 which obviously brings in revenue to our city, but we're gonna have 100 extras for 172 00:16:41,006 --> 00:16:45,008 like a pirate fightout they're gonna have on the beach, Neverland as it pertains 173 00:16:45,008 --> 00:16:49,006 to Peter Pan. It's about him as an adult. Um, so if you have your pirate costumes 174 00:16:49,006 --> 00:16:53,088 and you want to be a part of that, they are looking for additional, uh, volunteers. 175 00:16:54,033 --> 00:16:58,084 Uh, that can participate in that photo shoot. But the whole idea is to kind of cast 176 00:16:58,084 --> 00:17:04,008 Ocean Shores as a quirky, unusual place to do some avant-garde filming where we haven't 177 00:17:04,008 --> 00:17:09,004 been on the map before. And if we can get this film festival going, and we can get 178 00:17:09,004 --> 00:17:13,009 some production companies to come in, uh, we have a lot of kind of ideas that we 179 00:17:13,009 --> 00:17:17,009 hope would grow long term. One of the things we sort of talked about today, today, 180 00:17:17,017 --> 00:17:20,088 and by, I don't think anyone knows this sitting at the table, including the mayor. 181 00:17:21,028 --> 00:17:25,027 Um, because it was just kind of a collaborative discussion we're having would be 182 00:17:25,027 --> 00:17:27,083 something like we're talking about, I need to talk to the Freshwater Waste Advisory 183 00:17:27,083 --> 00:17:31,071 Board and others, but something called Canalloween. And it would be 2 days before 184 00:17:31,071 --> 00:17:35,003 Halloween, the nights before, we would decorate some of the canals. Anyone who wants 185 00:17:35,003 --> 00:17:38,075 to put out, you know, their horror artifacts and their lighting or their, and then 186 00:17:38,075 --> 00:17:42,071 we would be able to give like boat tours through the Canal Brothers or anyone private 187 00:17:42,071 --> 00:17:46,021 like the Ocean Shores Yacht Club. That would do that would just be a kind of a fun 188 00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:50,014 thing to do in the October months. It would bring our community together, uh, and 189 00:17:50,014 --> 00:17:54,006 add some art and some public participation to some of the things we have here, uh, 190 00:17:54,015 --> 00:17:56,069 which might be fun. I don't know if we're gonna have time to get it off the ground 191 00:17:56,071 --> 00:18:00,094 this year, um, but we may, uh, it would be a fun thing, but I need to have work with 192 00:18:00,094 --> 00:18:04,074 a bunch of collaborative partners to do that. So we are trying to market Ocean Shores 193 00:18:04,074 --> 00:18:08,009 the best we can as an artsy touristy destination, and, uh, like I said, this is off 194 00:18:08,009 --> 00:18:10,098 the cuff, but I'll have more to come on that. So thank you. 195 00:18:13,045 --> 00:18:19,052 All right, thanks. Next up, we got a 2027 General Fund Preliminary revenue estimate, 196 00:18:19,093 --> 00:18:27,004 RCW 35A.33.135, and that'll be presented by our finance director, Sarah Logan. 197 00:18:33,031 --> 00:18:40,053 Good evening. So in your, uh, agenda packet tonight, you received what's the 2027 198 00:18:40,071 --> 00:18:45,099 preliminary general fund revenue estimates. And what we just did on this, uh, is 199 00:18:45,099 --> 00:18:50,094 summarize kind of our revenue stream and how it's coming in, in anticipation for 200 00:18:50,094 --> 00:18:56,097 2027. Um, the last, well, as long as I've ever known, we haven't done this piece 201 00:18:56,097 --> 00:19:02,076 as a part of the budget, and it is a RCW and a statutory requirement. They typically 202 00:19:02,078 --> 00:19:06,049 just will bring the levy documents and call it even because those are the ones that 203 00:19:06,049 --> 00:19:12,021 have to be turned into the county. However, In order for all of you to review our 204 00:19:12,021 --> 00:19:15,089 operational budgets, you need to see what our revenues are specifically for the general 205 00:19:15,089 --> 00:19:20,085 funds. So in your agenda packet, there's just a summary, and then I've kind of written 206 00:19:20,085 --> 00:19:24,073 out what that summary goes over and I'll just read it off and then if you have questions 207 00:19:24,073 --> 00:19:30,024 for it, we'll go over those. Uh, tonight we have presented the preliminary 2027 general 208 00:19:30,024 --> 00:19:37,006 fund revenue estimates in the council's agenda packet. Again, a part of RCW 35A 33. 209 00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:42,003 The city is required to develop these estimates of anticipated revenues and expenditures 210 00:19:42,021 --> 00:19:46,002 and present a budget that provides council with a clear understanding of the resources 211 00:19:46,002 --> 00:19:51,044 available to support city operations. The preliminary forecast that you see tonight 212 00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:59,008 is currently projecting 2027 at 0.5% lower than 2026, which anybody that Uh, council 213 00:19:59,008 --> 00:20:03,083 member Greble and schools, council member Scott and the municipality all know that 214 00:20:03,085 --> 00:20:08,076 that's kind of the trend right now. Several major general fund revenue sources are 215 00:20:08,076 --> 00:20:14,016 either declining or projected to remain relatively flat. Sales tax collections through 216 00:20:14,016 --> 00:20:21,088 July of 26 are approximately 5% below 2025. B&O tax has been affected by the closure, 217 00:20:23,001 --> 00:20:28,096 specifically to the Shiloh because that was a huge B&O tax revenue. Uh, permit related 218 00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:34,051 revenues have declined from their 2024 peak, and changes for services have experienced 219 00:20:34,069 --> 00:20:39,072 a downward trend for several years. We have talked in length for the last year and 220 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:43,008 a half at finance committee if anybody from the audience or council follows along 221 00:20:43,008 --> 00:20:49,003 with those. Uh, about these and specifically to the building and permitting, we are 222 00:20:49,003 --> 00:20:55,072 coming way out of our building boom and going back to 2018's numbers. And those you 223 00:20:55,072 --> 00:21:01,033 can see in our Our archives, I mean they all show them there. The forecast also reflects 224 00:21:01,033 --> 00:21:07,008 the absence of significant one-time revenues that supported prior years. For example, 225 00:21:07,022 --> 00:21:13,073 2025 included nearly 2.2 million in the Department of Commerce erosion repairs grant 226 00:21:13,073 --> 00:21:17,097 revenue. That grant revenue went directly into our general fund. We don't see that 227 00:21:17,097 --> 00:21:23,017 now, even though it was an expenditure, we were able to project that into our previous 228 00:21:23,017 --> 00:21:27,032 budget because we knew that that grant had been awarded and we were receiving it. 229 00:21:27,097 --> 00:21:33,006 While the current 2027 estimate contains one time state revenue, in addition, the 230 00:21:33,006 --> 00:21:38,029 previous six years have included federal ARPA funding that is no longer available 231 00:21:38,029 --> 00:21:43,091 to the city. We have utilized those and we have, uh, closed out our federal grant 232 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,067 process, so we're all done with those. Uh, those prior years therefore should not 233 00:21:48,073 --> 00:21:53,028 be viewed as a representative of the city's reoccurring general fund revenue capacity 234 00:21:53,028 --> 00:21:59,058 going forward. Another significant factor is the city's correction of its cost allocation 235 00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:05,023 methodology for enterprise and other funds. I have spoken about this in great length. 236 00:22:05,048 --> 00:22:09,003 Uh, the finance committee, along with the finance department have worked diligently 237 00:22:09,032 --> 00:22:15,083 in 25 and 26. Historically, others made up this process much more complicated than 238 00:22:15,083 --> 00:22:21,016 it needed to be, uh, but it seemed a little intentional on why they did it that way. 239 00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:22,023 Uh, money would. 240 00:22:28,053 --> 00:22:32,016 Come from the enterprise funds, moved to the shared utility fund, then moved to the 241 00:22:32,016 --> 00:22:36,056 general fund, then ultimately some of the money would allocate back to the enterprise 242 00:22:36,056 --> 00:22:42,048 funds sometimes. Uh, we referred in finance to that as the money swirl because it 243 00:22:42,048 --> 00:22:47,044 was, uh, essentially moving dollars from one fund to another and then moving some 244 00:22:47,044 --> 00:22:54,021 of those dollars back sometimes and again rarely ever, um. So we've corrected that 245 00:22:54,037 --> 00:22:59,008 as you all know instead of moving those funds through multiple funds, the enterprise 246 00:22:59,008 --> 00:23:05,011 funds are assessed their appropriate share costs which all the council received and 247 00:23:05,013 --> 00:23:09,059 has been online and in our finance committees our cost allocation plan that was updated. 248 00:23:10,047 --> 00:23:14,009 Uh, those amounts are credited directly to the general fund, which will reflect in 249 00:23:14,009 --> 00:23:20,034 its own section of the budget the finance committee has already seen. So, uh, instead 250 00:23:20,034 --> 00:23:24,046 of seeing how you would have in years past and, uh, to council members that have 251 00:23:24,046 --> 00:23:28,086 been on here for years and years, you would just see continuous transfers in and 252 00:23:28,086 --> 00:23:33,042 transfers out, transfers in and transfers out, and it's a section like this big and 253 00:23:33,042 --> 00:23:39,024 the narrative of, of what's happening. And there's no more calculating depreciation 254 00:23:39,024 --> 00:23:46,018 and basing more indirect transfers off of that. So, uh, the biggest point I want 255 00:23:46,018 --> 00:23:52,068 to emphasize to council, this is not simply a 0.5% revenue decline story. It's about 256 00:23:52,068 --> 00:23:58,005 establishing a corrected financial baseline after removing accounting effects and 257 00:23:58,005 --> 00:24:03,054 one-time revenues that can make prior years appear stronger than the city's ongoing 258 00:24:03,054 --> 00:24:08,014 operational position. This gives council and staff a more realistic picture of what 259 00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:14,037 reoccurring revenues can substantiate support moving forward. The expectation of 260 00:24:14,037 --> 00:24:19,053 the city staff and the mayor and city administrator. Given this financial outlook, 261 00:24:19,058 --> 00:24:24,093 the expectation for all department heads in 27 will be to exercise significant spending 262 00:24:24,093 --> 00:24:31,017 restraints specific to the general fund. And focus expenditures on essential operational 263 00:24:31,017 --> 00:24:36,008 needs. Departments will be expected to work diligently to reduce discretionary spending, 264 00:24:36,037 --> 00:24:41,008 defer purchases when reasonably possible, and carefully evaluate whether expenditures 265 00:24:41,008 --> 00:24:47,032 are necessary during 2027 budget year. The primary exception will be public works 266 00:24:47,032 --> 00:24:53,077 capital and infrastructure projects. Where dedicated funding levels are uh sufficient 267 00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:58,048 to support the work, where appropriate funding is available and the city should continue 268 00:24:58,048 --> 00:25:03,072 moving those projects forward rather than unnecessarily delaying needed infrastructure 269 00:25:03,072 --> 00:25:09,087 investment. Specifically because we did the cost allocation correction and the general 270 00:25:09,087 --> 00:25:15,034 fund isn't subsidizing more than it should have ever subsidized out of the rate paid 271 00:25:15,067 --> 00:25:21,026 enterprise funds, the enterprise funds are now healthy and can deal with our infrastructure 272 00:25:21,026 --> 00:25:26,042 and our maintenance. And so that's what, while we heal our general fund, that's what 273 00:25:26,042 --> 00:25:31,066 we'll focus on in 27 is specific our water infrastructure, sewer infrastructure, 274 00:25:31,071 --> 00:25:36,006 and our road maintenance. Uh, a road maintenance, and I say that that is general 275 00:25:36,006 --> 00:25:40,008 fun, but the storm system and the road maintenance that's available to do during 276 00:25:40,008 --> 00:25:45,000 that will be a big portion, and I'm sure the public works director will talk more 277 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,087 about that later. Additionally, the departments are now told they will not rely on 278 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,044 general fund to finance everything that they want current, ongoing, or future. Each 279 00:25:56,044 --> 00:26:01,032 department head will be expected to actively identify, pursue, and obtain available 280 00:26:01,032 --> 00:26:06,033 grant funding for departmental programs, equipment, capital. Improvements and other 281 00:26:06,035 --> 00:26:11,018 needs wherever grant opportunities are available. Grant funding should become an 282 00:26:11,027 --> 00:26:16,054 integral part of the departmental planning rather than being viewed as a supplemental 283 00:26:16,054 --> 00:26:21,017 effort after a need has already arisen, as the council knows, we've spent a great 284 00:26:21,019 --> 00:26:27,003 deal of time and success, uh, um, to Tim, Tim's success on public works grant projects 285 00:26:27,003 --> 00:26:32,005 while no other department has looked for any grants specific to their departments, 286 00:26:32,019 --> 00:26:38,097 which is a. Uh, quasi overlook on our part, um, and they can do way better. Fire 287 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:42,084 used to write their own grants. Police used to write their own grants, finance. Uh, 288 00:26:43,001 --> 00:26:48,072 even the city clerk's office that I oversee, we got our grants for scanning and what 289 00:26:48,072 --> 00:26:53,016 have you by looking for them on our own because we know what to look for. I kind 290 00:26:53,016 --> 00:26:57,002 of tried to tell them to treat it like unemployment, like if you haven't looked for 291 00:26:57,002 --> 00:27:03,093 3 grants this week. You don't get paid tomorrow. Like, so it's a joke. It's on record. 292 00:27:03,098 --> 00:27:10,069 It's a joke. God knows what all the comment will be. The goal for 2027 is not to 293 00:27:10,069 --> 00:27:15,035 simply reduce spending from the general fund, allowing it time to heal and build. 294 00:27:15,054 --> 00:27:22,017 It is to align ongoing expenditures with a substantial reoccurring revenues while 295 00:27:22,017 --> 00:27:26,061 protecting essential city services and continue. And responsible investments in our 296 00:27:26,061 --> 00:27:32,007 infrastructure. The primary revenue estimates are being presented now, so the the 297 00:27:32,007 --> 00:27:36,067 council and department heads have this information before expenditure decisions are 298 00:27:36,067 --> 00:27:42,039 made and can approach the 2027 budget with shared understanding to the city's actual 299 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:47,077 financial capacity. With that being said. As you go through the operational budget, 300 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:52,059 you will see requests specifically from the public works director and not so much 301 00:27:52,059 --> 00:27:57,009 requests from those that are generated or paid out of the general fund. We are going 302 00:27:57,009 --> 00:28:03,094 to try and find other avenues and allow our general fund to build back up, uh, while 303 00:28:03,094 --> 00:28:09,067 we work on our infrastructure at the same time with the, um. I'm excited because 304 00:28:09,069 --> 00:28:13,084 those are the funds that aren't being allocated that then demand a rate increase 305 00:28:13,084 --> 00:28:21,042 later. So, that's the preliminary 2027. Money. OK, 306 00:28:21,051 --> 00:28:25,038 um, Scott, you had something? Yeah, I had 30 seconds more and it wasn't on yours, 307 00:28:25,043 --> 00:28:29,007 so I don't know if you were you gonna have council questions first or, OK, so go 308 00:28:29,007 --> 00:28:33,092 ahead and you do council questions and I'll go back to mine. Right. Questions? Yes, 309 00:28:34,013 --> 00:28:38,064 go ahead, Lisa Scott. I just wanna say thank you so much. I'm so glad we're moving 310 00:28:38,064 --> 00:28:43,076 to an annual basis, and it, you've cleaned it up so much, and that's exactly what 311 00:28:43,076 --> 00:28:48,084 we asked for, and it's, for me, at least, it's very transparent, and it's easier 312 00:28:48,084 --> 00:28:54,000 to understand. So, thank you, and uh I'm glad that the enterprise funds are, are 313 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,006 getting figured out. Thank you. 314 00:28:57,074 --> 00:29:03,087 Right. Any other questions? I guess we don't have any other questions. I guess, go 315 00:29:03,087 --> 00:29:08,042 ahead, Scott. All right, I said this is the problem in ad libbing things, um, I forgot 316 00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:12,058 the important part, uh, or one of the important parts. Monday the 28th on Evening 317 00:29:12,058 --> 00:29:14,004 magazine King 5. 318 00:29:21,009 --> 00:29:25,021 7:30, uh, that's what they were down here filming today. This is one of the reasons 319 00:29:25,021 --> 00:29:29,052 I was working with them and, uh, so you're gonna see something kind of stormy spooky 320 00:29:29,052 --> 00:29:34,069 ocean shores. Uh, we're gonna be focusing on the Celtic Music Fest, uh, on the Katala. 321 00:29:35,002 --> 00:29:38,081 Um, we're gonna be looking at, uh, some of the other things on our canals. We got 322 00:29:38,081 --> 00:29:42,042 some great video of our canals and how spooky they are at night. But I also wanna 323 00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:46,038 say this ties into like a bigger tourism strategy that we have. One of the things 324 00:29:46,038 --> 00:29:50,082 that George and I are always discussing is that it's very easy to promote ocean shores 325 00:29:50,082 --> 00:29:55,026 in the spring and the summer. Uh, it gets more difficult to find activities and what 326 00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:59,009 we've always called them fallen back on is, is clam digging and storm watching in 327 00:29:59,009 --> 00:30:03,084 the winter. But I think there's more to the ocean shore story to that. And I think 328 00:30:03,084 --> 00:30:07,067 by bringing in the arts and bringing in sort of more of an avant-garde film community, 329 00:30:07,089 --> 00:30:11,032 uh, we can help focus on that. So it's one of the things we're doing. And then I 330 00:30:11,032 --> 00:30:16,002 do not know if this was discussed cause I, uh, had the privilege of being in Japan 331 00:30:16,002 --> 00:30:20,025 for the last kind of two weeks until now, where my daughter has been going to school, 332 00:30:20,057 --> 00:30:24,032 uh, and studying Japanese. But I did want to let you know that work on the sand. 333 00:30:24,059 --> 00:30:28,066 It's actually beginning really in earnest. And just in case it wasn't said, the Shiloh 334 00:30:28,066 --> 00:30:32,009 has been sold. So everyone knows and work has already started on that. And that ties 335 00:30:32,009 --> 00:30:36,074 into everything that George and I and everyone in this community that's working on 336 00:30:36,074 --> 00:30:41,068 marketing and engaging the city, uh, are, are doing because that is our flagship 337 00:30:41,068 --> 00:30:46,022 hotel. It's the flagship hotel for this convention center, and I'm really happy that 338 00:30:46,022 --> 00:30:48,046 sooner rather than later, we will have the sands back. 339 00:30:51,005 --> 00:30:57,032 The shy low back. See, I guess I may be strong jet lag. Sorry. Well, we'll be getting 340 00:30:57,032 --> 00:31:04,032 the sands back too, so that's good. All right, uh, next we got council liaison reports 341 00:31:04,032 --> 00:31:06,000 and we'll start with, uh, Kurt Dooley. 342 00:31:09,003 --> 00:31:15,093 I attended the Public Safety Committee meeting and signed warrants. All right, thanks, 343 00:31:16,003 --> 00:31:20,074 Richard. None of my liaison committees met since the last council meeting, so I have 344 00:31:20,074 --> 00:31:27,027 no report. Thank you. All right, Lisa Scott, ditto on that. We do have finance, uh, 345 00:31:27,055 --> 00:31:33,015 committee meeting on the 24th and public works on the 28th of this month. All right, 346 00:31:33,037 --> 00:31:40,015 uh, Denise Sires. I attended a gender review. I signed warrants. Uh, Lisa mentioned 347 00:31:40,015 --> 00:31:45,063 we do have finance upcoming on this Thursday and, uh, for the public who's interested, 348 00:31:45,072 --> 00:31:52,014 we do delve deeper into the budget at that particular committee. Uh, LTAC is coming 349 00:31:52,002 --> 00:31:59,083 up for the 2027, uh, start of request and that's on October 6th and the 350 00:31:59,083 --> 00:32:06,067 council budget study session. That was uh scheduled for this coming Saturday, September 351 00:32:06,067 --> 00:32:14,018 26th, has been rescheduled to November 10th prior to council, so we have uh more 352 00:32:14,018 --> 00:32:21,061 information. Right, thanks, Allison. I signed warrants. I attended the Public 353 00:32:21,071 --> 00:32:27,034 Safety Committee meeting, agenda setting, and our ad hoc committee for your home, 354 00:32:27,047 --> 00:32:33,094 our city, and then I had a training session with about half of the members in the 355 00:32:33,094 --> 00:32:39,018 pool for the ethics committee, and we'll be setting up a training for those who are 356 00:32:39,018 --> 00:32:45,064 unable to attend. For that, and then I have finance coming up this week and public 357 00:32:45,064 --> 00:32:51,044 works next week. All right, thanks, Lisa agreeable. Thank you, Mayor. I attended 358 00:32:51,044 --> 00:32:58,072 our ad hoc committee meeting. All right. Tom Taylor. I 359 00:32:59,005 --> 00:33:06,008 attended, um, public safety. And uh got some news on that. Um, one of the clerk that 360 00:33:06,008 --> 00:33:08,096 they're hiring. Is 361 00:33:11,019 --> 00:33:16,042 That report's coming up. OK, yeah. All right, thank you. All right, so we're gonna 362 00:33:16,042 --> 00:33:21,007 move on to council ad hoc committees, and, uh, this is, uh, your home, our city ad 363 00:33:21,007 --> 00:33:26,009 hoc committee report, and that's presented by council member Lisa Grebel. Thank you 364 00:33:26,009 --> 00:33:32,025 Mayor. Our committee met and interestingly enough, the public comment tonight and 365 00:33:32,027 --> 00:33:38,007 our city administrator's report both tied into our committee meeting. Our discussion 366 00:33:38,007 --> 00:33:45,095 was how can we promote our city to be welcoming and. Inclusive of everyone who lives 367 00:33:45,095 --> 00:33:52,007 here and visits here and the what we landed on was a a way to do that was through 368 00:33:52,007 --> 00:33:59,063 art and public art and the conversation was how could we develop a clear way of um 369 00:33:59,063 --> 00:34:06,011 commissioning art. Determining what the budget is for community art, different mediums 370 00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:11,051 that could be reflected and making sure that we're spreading that community art around 371 00:34:11,051 --> 00:34:17,062 to a variety of artists and so we talked about having some, uh, lots of cities do 372 00:34:17,088 --> 00:34:25,016 public art. Tests that uh the local artists submit ideas and and how what the art 373 00:34:25,016 --> 00:34:29,083 would be what while the city has a theme for that and so that's what we talked about 374 00:34:29,085 --> 00:34:34,056 and we'll I'll talk about that later at um future agenda items for perhaps having 375 00:34:34,056 --> 00:34:42,002 that as a discussion. All right, thank you. Uh, salary review ad hoc committee, and 376 00:34:42,002 --> 00:34:49,075 that'll be presented uh by Alison Klein. We met the uh council member Julie 377 00:34:49,008 --> 00:34:56,046 Wells and myself met and reviewed all of the documents that HR had provided for us 378 00:34:56,048 --> 00:35:04,019 and we have made recommendations to the mayor. All right, thank you. Um, next, uh, 379 00:35:04,036 --> 00:35:11,028 consent agenda. Can I get a motion to approve? Yes, salad, um. Motion to approve 380 00:35:11,028 --> 00:35:18,086 the consent agenda. 2nd. All right, all in favor? All right, thank you. Unanimous. 381 00:35:20,025 --> 00:35:24,077 All right, we'll move on to the finance standing Committee. We have a resolution 382 00:35:25,009 --> 00:35:29,078 of the city council of the city of Ocean Shores, Washington repealing and replacing 383 00:35:29,078 --> 00:35:37,074 resolution number 760 establishing a plan for disposal and sale of accumulated beach 384 00:35:37,074 --> 00:35:42,063 approach sand, and that'll be. Presented by our public works director, Ricardo Victoriano. 385 00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:53,009 Uh, good evening, counsel. So what I have for you is The oh, I'm missing a page here 386 00:35:53,009 --> 00:35:58,092 we go. All right, so, uh, in the past we've done these sand halls, um, I'm not sure 387 00:35:58,092 --> 00:36:04,022 how the price was set historically, uh, but what I did was, uh, kind of what we do 388 00:36:04,022 --> 00:36:09,016 for, um, you know, establishing rates for meter installs and everything like that 389 00:36:09,016 --> 00:36:14,005 and make sure that we're not losing money on, you know, our typical work and things 390 00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:19,003 where it's just a set price and, you know, we use our work orders to, uh, just double 391 00:36:19,003 --> 00:36:24,062 check that and make sure that we're. Not, um, you know, being negligent in that, 392 00:36:24,075 --> 00:36:32,009 that, uh, Case, but so what I used was uh FEMA equipment rates uh for charging our 393 00:36:32,092 --> 00:36:40,032 our uh. Let me see, is there a In the back of the section of the agenda packet here, 394 00:36:40,034 --> 00:36:47,015 section 9, we have a work order that I drafted for um. It'll be an equipment operator 395 00:36:47,015 --> 00:36:52,003 and a spotter in a truck there to make sure that the contractors have tickets and 396 00:36:52,003 --> 00:36:55,079 make sure that they're staying in an orderly line, no one's doing anything dangerous 397 00:36:55,079 --> 00:37:00,001 and, you know, going up into the staging area without being asked to do so. Uh, and 398 00:37:00,001 --> 00:37:05,011 so we're billing a pickup truck. It'll be a 4 wheel drive half ton pickup truck and 399 00:37:05,011 --> 00:37:12,031 then a front loader to load the sand, um. And so kind of one full bucket of our front 400 00:37:12,031 --> 00:37:16,059 loader is about 3 yards of sand and so that's what we're basing it on is uh 2 minutes 401 00:37:16,059 --> 00:37:21,076 to load one full bucket of sand, uh, divide that by 3, charge that out per yard, 402 00:37:21,096 --> 00:37:27,051 um, so this work order is a total of 1027 for 3 yards, divide that by 3 and that 403 00:37:27,051 --> 00:37:31,019 gave us the price that we put in for 342 per cubic yard. 404 00:37:35,002 --> 00:37:40,085 And that's about double at least of what we were charging before on that. So what 405 00:37:40,085 --> 00:37:46,049 was going on prior to me getting here was the fact that uh the guys would get loaded 406 00:37:46,049 --> 00:37:52,042 up with sand and then they drive by the office and tell us how much sand they. Cook 407 00:37:53,018 --> 00:37:58,005 And um we changed that now where they gotta pay ahead of time for a ticket. Ticket 408 00:37:58,005 --> 00:38:03,037 goes to one of Ricky's guys, and then they load them up. And so we got better control, 409 00:38:03,041 --> 00:38:08,085 and we'll be uh receiving better funds out of that effort. So, that's, that's what's 410 00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:09,033 going on. 411 00:38:13,003 --> 00:38:19,051 So council discussion. We got any questions for him? Yes, Richard. Do you have any 412 00:38:19,051 --> 00:38:24,071 idea around ballpark figures how much revenue the sale of sand it should bring in, 413 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,007 may bring in? Uh, just because it hasn't, it's only been tracked once. I don't know, 414 00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:33,035 you know, it could just be that we haven't done it in, I think, a year or two, but, 415 00:38:33,004 --> 00:38:36,039 you know, we get double the turnout than we did last year, so I, I don't think I 416 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:43,054 could responsibly make an estimate. You know, at, at $10 a, a, a scoop, uh, you know, 417 00:38:45,004 --> 00:38:50,027 Just a wild guess. Do we sell 100 scoops? Do we sell 3 scoops? Wild guess. Yeah, 418 00:38:50,044 --> 00:38:54,015 so it, it, it's really different every time we get a good mix of contractors and 419 00:38:54,015 --> 00:38:58,014 private homeowners that will come out and want a trailer loaded up or a truck bed, 420 00:38:58,016 --> 00:39:04,019 and so, um. I, I would have to look at, at what the revenue was last year and, and 421 00:39:04,019 --> 00:39:09,057 base it off that. Not worth it. Thank you. Yeah, Richard, what, um, what kind of 422 00:39:10,088 --> 00:39:15,034 Makes that uh popular with the contractors is how many houses we have going in, and 423 00:39:15,034 --> 00:39:22,006 housing is slowing down on that. So, um, It's, it's hard to say. We stopped for the 424 00:39:22,006 --> 00:39:27,008 last couple of years because of the berm issues, and we did not wanna run out of 425 00:39:27,008 --> 00:39:31,088 sand if we needed sand, so we sat on that for a couple of years. Now we've got more 426 00:39:31,088 --> 00:39:39,002 than enough. Um, yeah, go ahead and then Kurt. My, my, my comment is. This is not 427 00:39:39,022 --> 00:39:44,005 gonna be a big revenue for the city, but I'm actually very glad that we are taking 428 00:39:44,005 --> 00:39:49,025 control of, and it's just not a free for all and giving it away. I promise I only 429 00:39:49,025 --> 00:39:56,014 got one bucket. So, thank you. Go ahead, Kurt. Just to clarify, we're, we're only 430 00:39:56,016 --> 00:40:01,059 trying to recoup costs, not make a profit, right? OK, thank you. It doesn't hurt 431 00:40:01,059 --> 00:40:08,021 to make a little bit. Yes, go ahead, Lisa. Um, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion 432 00:40:08,023 --> 00:40:10,057 to, uh, pass the resolution of the city council. 433 00:40:13,063 --> 00:40:20,052 Thank you. Sorry, we jumped to council questions, so sorry. Yeah, somebody changed 434 00:40:20,052 --> 00:40:25,014 the order on this thing on me. Um, do you got any other questions down at this end 435 00:40:25,014 --> 00:40:31,078 of the table? No? Any others? Oh, go ahead, Denise. I, I just wanted to comment with 436 00:40:31,078 --> 00:40:39,023 a, a big thank you. Uh, it is so nice to see actual, uh, time and material analysis. 437 00:40:39,074 --> 00:40:44,037 Um, it, it, it, it's amazing compared to the way it was done in the past. So thank 438 00:40:44,037 --> 00:40:44,007 you. 439 00:40:46,009 --> 00:40:50,065 All right. If we have no other council comments or questions, we'll go to public 440 00:40:50,065 --> 00:40:57,002 comment. Any public comment out there? Yes, go ahead. Yeah, go to the mic, please. 441 00:41:09,094 --> 00:41:15,055 Sylvia Fain here. I'm just wondering, I've, I've kind of heard about this before, 442 00:41:15,068 --> 00:41:22,081 but I really never knew about it. So we sell sta sand to residents, if, if they wanna 443 00:41:22,081 --> 00:41:30,074 buy it. Like, is it a specific weekend or something, or is it specific days and 444 00:41:31,063 --> 00:41:37,001 It's uh Ricky, it's you can't answer me. That's right. I'm sorry. Anyway, I would 445 00:41:37,001 --> 00:41:44,007 like to know, um, Yeah, you know, how this works, when it works, uh, it's 446 00:41:44,007 --> 00:41:51,003 never really been. I, I mean, maybe people that are really active here know about 447 00:41:51,003 --> 00:41:56,056 it, but I don't think the community has known that much about it, so. If you're selling 448 00:41:56,056 --> 00:41:58,036 sand, I wanna know about it. 449 00:42:01,024 --> 00:42:03,059 Any other uh comments out there? Yes, go ahead. 450 00:42:20,002 --> 00:42:26,053 I'm Medina Ridge. I have nothing to do with the sand. Um, I remember a few weeks 451 00:42:26,053 --> 00:42:33,057 ago I read that, um, a lot of corners had a problem with gravel being all messed 452 00:42:33,057 --> 00:42:39,013 up from whatever the case may be. Um, that we're talking about the sand purchase. 453 00:42:39,007 --> 00:42:44,002 We can't talk about anything else, right? That should have been done during public 454 00:42:44,006 --> 00:42:47,061 comment, general public comment. OK, I'm sorry. That's fine. 455 00:42:50,073 --> 00:42:58,012 Anybody uh out there wanna talk about the sand purchasing? I don't see any Richard, 456 00:42:58,072 --> 00:43:05,046 so just uh for clarification. If a homeowner wants a couple of scoops of sand, you 457 00:43:05,046 --> 00:43:10,007 know, 36 yards of sand, that's a purchase. If I want 25 gallon buckets of sand, am 458 00:43:10,007 --> 00:43:15,066 I breaking the law if I go down to the beach and scoop up 25 gallon buckets? That's, 459 00:43:15,071 --> 00:43:19,022 uh, yeah, so I mean we're, we're not gonna have anyone out there with buckets while 460 00:43:19,022 --> 00:43:23,001 we have equipment on the beach. That's, that's not my question. So am I breaking 461 00:43:23,001 --> 00:43:30,008 the law because I just, hey Richard, uh, Rick, Ricky's not really, uh, um. Ready 462 00:43:30,008 --> 00:43:35,044 to make that kind of a determination. Legal question if you want a legal answer for 463 00:43:35,044 --> 00:43:38,048 that, email me and I'll get you one. Thank you. All right. 464 00:43:40,098 --> 00:43:42,058 Lisa, did you wanna go ahead now? 465 00:43:45,048 --> 00:43:49,007 I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to approve the resolution of the City Council 466 00:43:49,007 --> 00:43:54,035 of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington, repealing and replacing resolution number 467 00:43:54,035 --> 00:44:00,055 760, establishing a plan for the disposal and sale of accumulated beach approach 468 00:44:00,055 --> 00:44:01,009 sand. Second, 469 00:44:04,059 --> 00:44:08,082 All right. Any other comments from the council on that? All right, I guess not. Let's 470 00:44:08,082 --> 00:44:13,056 go ahead and vote. All in favor? Aye. All right, unanimous. Thank you. Thank you. 471 00:44:13,071 --> 00:44:14,003 Thanks, Ricky. 472 00:44:16,007 --> 00:44:22,041 All right. Uh, next, uh, public, uh, safety standing Committee. Um, Report and that 473 00:44:22,041 --> 00:44:24,029 will be by council member Taylor. 474 00:44:32,055 --> 00:44:40,001 I attended the Public safety, uh Meeting and uh we're, I liked what 475 00:44:40,024 --> 00:44:48,012 our Department's doing they're they're doing a lot more action with in 476 00:44:48,012 --> 00:44:55,098 uh holding people responsible for speeding and and violations and. Um Things 477 00:44:55,098 --> 00:45:01,003 and, and it, it's good to see them out there making contact. Um, they're warning 478 00:45:01,003 --> 00:45:07,089 people and not just citing people, but they're doing both. Um, so, uh, for 479 00:45:10,024 --> 00:45:18,021 They had 992 stops during the month and um They also 480 00:45:18,027 --> 00:45:26,021 had 25 citations. And um So that was, that's, that's a 481 00:45:26,021 --> 00:45:32,068 lot, that's good traffic for the officers and for the citizens, both uh residents 482 00:45:32,068 --> 00:45:40,021 and visitors. Um, it's, it's a balance actually, uh. Being a former law enforcement 483 00:45:40,021 --> 00:45:47,009 officer that tells the citizens that they're actually getting their service for for 484 00:45:47,009 --> 00:45:53,016 it so that looked that looked good. Also, um, the station clerk will be starting, 485 00:45:53,026 --> 00:45:57,092 um, in October about the 21st so that that seat be filled. 486 00:46:00,088 --> 00:46:08,062 I think they can hear me. They can't. OK. Um, so she'll be starting about, uh, October 487 00:46:08,062 --> 00:46:11,029 21st and that's I have somebody. 488 00:46:16,051 --> 00:46:21,007 October 1st, I'm sorry. Um, so, um, police department is doing good. 489 00:46:24,075 --> 00:46:30,064 All right, thanks. Um, next. What? Oh, OK, I'm sorry, um. 490 00:46:32,077 --> 00:46:35,003 Oh, you had a question, Lisa? Go ahead. 491 00:46:43,096 --> 00:46:46,007 I just had a question if there's anything about fire. 492 00:46:53,043 --> 00:47:01,005 Did not document that. I can answer that if it's allowed. Absolutely. Um, 493 00:47:01,089 --> 00:47:06,039 Allison and I were also there and uh the fire department mostly just talked about 494 00:47:06,041 --> 00:47:12,033 their own statistics, um, and what was going on with the South Fire Station, which 495 00:47:12,033 --> 00:47:19,086 is now manned. And uh and then toward the end I asked. She's heard about the 496 00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:25,052 overtime costs and Let him know that uh the council and the citizens are paying attention 497 00:47:25,052 --> 00:47:28,028 to that, and he needed to get a handle on it. 498 00:47:31,012 --> 00:47:36,043 All right. OK. So we'll move on to, this is under Public Works Standing Committee, 499 00:47:36,051 --> 00:47:42,078 but we will uh recess this regular city council meeting at 6:47. 500 00:47:45,092 --> 00:47:50,081 And convene into a special meeting of the Transportation Benefit District. This will 501 00:47:50,081 --> 00:47:57,067 be presented by our project manager, Becky Leach, and Public Works Director. Ricardo 502 00:47:58,017 --> 00:47:59,004 Victoriano. 503 00:48:02,011 --> 00:48:07,082 Hello everybody. We have a really exciting, much needed project for the transportation 504 00:48:07,082 --> 00:48:13,007 benefit district tonight to bring before you the, um, it's an asphalt project and 505 00:48:13,007 --> 00:48:18,091 it's taking place all over the city. We're doing asphalt repairs at the Overlake 506 00:48:18,091 --> 00:48:23,016 Bridge. If you drive on that, you know that that is really needed. 23 additional 507 00:48:23,016 --> 00:48:26,086 locations throughout the city that is in the agenda packet and then there's also 508 00:48:26,086 --> 00:48:32,039 areas of payment needed to be done at the Ocean Shores Airport, um. Project went 509 00:48:32,039 --> 00:48:39,023 out to bid. Low bid was $585,736 and that is from Puget Paving. 510 00:48:45,052 --> 00:48:52,075 All right. And any other, uh, you got any questions or? Yes, Richard. So, um 511 00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:58,048 This paving project is for all of the paving that needs to be done throughout the 512 00:48:58,048 --> 00:49:03,056 city, and my question specifically is, in the past we had an ordinance, I believe 513 00:49:03,056 --> 00:49:07,088 that we were supposed to tunnel under the asphalt instead of trench across it. So 514 00:49:07,088 --> 00:49:13,019 how much of this paving is a result of having trenched instead of tunneled or or 515 00:49:13,037 --> 00:49:19,076 piped under whatever the right word is. So, um, in some cases we, we have no other 516 00:49:19,084 --> 00:49:25,033 choice but to, uh, make a road cut. So, um, you know, times where equipment gets 517 00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:30,045 stuck under the road where we're trying to bore or push through, um, and I believe 518 00:49:30,045 --> 00:49:38,034 there is. 2 or 3 of those road cuts that need to be done. So, uh, the, the, the bore 519 00:49:38,034 --> 00:49:44,031 insulation and really, uh, Limiting factor on that, especially in our area, is that 520 00:49:44,031 --> 00:49:48,063 we can't get contractors that will bore anything bigger than 4 inches across the 521 00:49:48,063 --> 00:49:51,079 road. So I think any culvert that we have to install to improve our storm drain, 522 00:49:52,008 --> 00:49:57,063 uh, we have to cut that open 4 ft wide and, and get that installed. Thank you. That's 523 00:49:57,063 --> 00:50:04,001 a good answer. Thank you. Yes, Lisa Scott. I have a quick question. So the um 524 00:50:05,068 --> 00:50:10,063 On chance, you have the sewer installed. Is that the last bit of area that hasn't 525 00:50:10,063 --> 00:50:14,099 been paved yet? Yes, yeah, that, that's the one trench across the road there. Yeah, 526 00:50:15,018 --> 00:50:15,076 thank you. 527 00:50:19,001 --> 00:50:27,001 Any, uh, anything else? Yes, uh, Denise. Uh, I, I was, uh, I'd, I'd 528 00:50:27,001 --> 00:50:32,019 like you to explain there has been a lot on social media about individual areas that 529 00:50:32,053 --> 00:50:39,063 Need to be fixed. Uh, can you explain why we, um, put them all together? In a bid, 530 00:50:40,001 --> 00:50:46,051 yeah, so, um, I, I guess I'll do my best. I'm not a, not a lawyer, but, uh, so we 531 00:50:46,051 --> 00:50:51,008 have, uh, bid laws that we stick to and so when we know that there's a, you know, 532 00:50:51,017 --> 00:50:55,009 a certain amount of work that has to be done, which in my mind this was starting 533 00:50:55,009 --> 00:51:00,024 out somewhere around 1000 to 200,000 and then we added the Overlake Bridge that desperately 534 00:51:00,024 --> 00:51:04,072 needed to be done, uh, the area in front of the elementary school is gonna be completely 535 00:51:04,072 --> 00:51:11,005 removed and repaved, um. And so you know that puts us over the $300,000 mark. And 536 00:51:11,005 --> 00:51:14,053 once we're at that point, we have to have an engineer's estimate for the work to 537 00:51:14,053 --> 00:51:18,008 be done. And at that point there's a lot more that goes into the bid information. 538 00:51:19,001 --> 00:51:23,008 We spent probably close to a month going back and forth with engineers, um, working 539 00:51:23,082 --> 00:51:29,077 on, uh, the load calculations for the Overlake bridge, and so, um. The grinding equipment 540 00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:33,022 that's gonna be used for most of the work can't be used there. It has to be peeled 541 00:51:33,022 --> 00:51:39,018 off with an excavator for the majority of the day, sadly. But um back to the, I mean, 542 00:51:39,035 --> 00:51:43,017 you know, Doing everything at once versus splitting it up. If we were to split it 543 00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:47,033 up and do it in 3 sections so that we didn't have to do all the extra steps, then 544 00:51:47,033 --> 00:51:50,001 that would be bid splitting and they would kind of point that out in our audit. 545 00:51:52,036 --> 00:51:57,032 Well, it'd be a lot more money also that you know because you gotta pay for mobilization. 546 00:51:57,088 --> 00:52:02,096 People are already there now to do the work. They gotta come back out and you probably 547 00:52:03,004 --> 00:52:07,096 double the cost on that. Anybody else got anything they'd like to say? 548 00:52:10,007 --> 00:52:15,061 I guess not. So I guess we can, uh, hold on. They, they need to make action. They 549 00:52:15,061 --> 00:52:22,032 have to approve this request. That's not in here. Yeah, it's, uh, it's because it's 550 00:52:22,032 --> 00:52:29,051 a special meeting within a meeting. It's on page 25. 2626 yeah I don't have that 551 00:52:29,053 --> 00:52:31,047 page of your big agenda. 552 00:52:33,063 --> 00:52:38,038 You got that. Thanks. OK, so I'd like to go ahead and make a motion to approve a 553 00:52:38,038 --> 00:52:42,069 request of the City council of the City of Ocean Shores awarding the citywide paving 554 00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:48,076 project to Puget Paving. Nope, wrong one. You gotta in the agenda packet you gotta 555 00:52:48,089 --> 00:52:55,051 approve the request for the TBD uh board to approve the 2026 budget request number 556 00:52:55,051 --> 00:53:01,058 4 as the TBD board. OK, my bad. I flipped the page. Sorry, let me try that again. 557 00:53:02,029 --> 00:53:07,043 So I'd like to make a motion to approve a request of the Transportation Benefit District 558 00:53:07,043 --> 00:53:14,045 Number 1 board to approve the 2026 budget request number 4. Second 559 00:53:15,049 --> 00:53:21,036 All in favor. Aye. All right, thanks. Unanimous. So, um, we'll close this special 560 00:53:21,036 --> 00:53:25,036 meeting in the Transportation Benefit District and reconvene the regular city council 561 00:53:25,036 --> 00:53:28,056 meeting at 6:52. 562 00:53:32,041 --> 00:53:36,024 All right, so next up we have a request to the City council of the City of Ocean 563 00:53:36,024 --> 00:53:42,039 Shores Washington awarding the citywide paving project to Puget Paving presented 564 00:53:42,041 --> 00:53:48,088 by project manager Becky Leach and Public Works director Ricardo Victoriano. 565 00:53:52,004 --> 00:53:57,003 I'm going to read down through the agenda bill which covers pretty much everything 566 00:53:57,003 --> 00:54:00,024 that I just said, but since we have it, I'm gonna go ahead and cover the agenda bill. 567 00:54:00,077 --> 00:54:04,099 The city has identified asphalt pavement repairs at multiple locations requiring 568 00:54:04,099 --> 00:54:09,063 corrective work to preserve existing infrastructure and maintain safe and serviceable 569 00:54:09,063 --> 00:54:14,053 roadway conditions. The citywide asphalt paving project includes asphalt repairs 570 00:54:14,053 --> 00:54:19,005 at the Overlake Bridge, 23 additional locations throughout the city, and designated 571 00:54:19,005 --> 00:54:23,077 areas of pavement at the Ocean Shores Municipal Airport. Prior to solicitation, the 572 00:54:23,077 --> 00:54:31,037 estimated project estimate cost was $603,493. Following the competitive bidding process, 573 00:54:31,005 --> 00:54:35,085 the city received two bids with Puget Paving submitting. The lowest responsive bid 574 00:54:35,085 --> 00:54:42,025 in the amount of 585 to $736. So, it's always nice when our projects come in with 575 00:54:42,025 --> 00:54:46,064 a lower bid than what the actual estimate is from the engineers. The proposed work 576 00:54:46,064 --> 00:54:51,032 will address identified pavement deterioration, improve roadway conditions, and help 577 00:54:51,032 --> 00:54:55,004 prevent further degradation that could result in more extensive and costly repairs 578 00:54:55,004 --> 00:54:59,008 in the future. Staff recommends that the city council approve the citywide asphalt 579 00:54:59,008 --> 00:55:04,044 paving project and authorize the award of the construction contract to Puget Paving 580 00:55:04,044 --> 00:55:08,092 in the amount of $585,736.08. 581 00:55:11,061 --> 00:55:18,001 All right. Um, any comments or questions from the council? I see none. How about 582 00:55:18,001 --> 00:55:18,009 from the public? 583 00:55:21,017 --> 00:55:29,002 No public comment. All right, um. You have counselor Oh, sorry. Yes, 584 00:55:29,015 --> 00:55:34,046 Allison. So, I'd like to make a motion to approve a request of the City council of 585 00:55:34,046 --> 00:55:40,076 the City of Ocean Shores awarding the citywide paving project to Puget Paving. 2nd 586 00:55:40,094 --> 00:55:46,085 2nd. All right, we have a 2nd. Any other comments? All in favor? Aye. All right, 587 00:55:46,098 --> 00:55:53,095 thanks, unanimous. All right, next up we have a request to the city council. Of the 588 00:55:53,095 --> 00:55:59,003 City of Ocean Shores, Washington to approve groundworks to perform repairs on a failing 589 00:55:59,003 --> 00:56:04,034 city-owned culvert in the IGA parking lot. And that is presented by Public Works 590 00:56:04,034 --> 00:56:06,043 Director, Ricky Victoriano. 591 00:56:09,013 --> 00:56:15,046 Um, yeah, so this is a, um, I'm sure, uh, the barricades have been a hot topic. Um, 592 00:56:15,069 --> 00:56:20,016 so we actually set up cones and we had delivery drivers that were moving them to 593 00:56:20,016 --> 00:56:26,002 get through, so we brought barricades out. Um, we have, uh, detected, I guess, um, 594 00:56:26,045 --> 00:56:32,064 the best way to put it, a large void under the road measuring about 25 by 45 ft. 595 00:56:33,016 --> 00:56:39,018 Uh, as deep as 12 ft in the center, uh, so there's a hole in the culvert, the aluminum 596 00:56:39,018 --> 00:56:44,064 culvert going through the, uh, or the galvanized culvert, galvanized steel, um, going 597 00:56:44,007 --> 00:56:48,089 underneath the parking lot there, um, carrying the Oihut ditch into the north end 598 00:56:48,089 --> 00:56:54,086 Grand Canal. Um, and so what that does is kind of like the tide, it liquefies the 599 00:56:54,086 --> 00:57:00,005 sand and kind of turns it into a slurry and pulls it with it. Um, and so two things 600 00:57:00,007 --> 00:57:04,093 that we'll fix here is we'll, uh, stop pulling sand from the ground, putting it into 601 00:57:05,025 --> 00:57:12,001 the North End Grand Canal, and we will, um, fix the void, seal the pipe, and re-support 602 00:57:12,001 --> 00:57:16,074 the foot thick asphalt that's there because I guess it's been a problem for a while 603 00:57:16,074 --> 00:57:24,069 and they just keep paving over it. So, um. The uh The I don't 604 00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:30,045 know anything about this work. Um, I've watched videos. I've listened to, uh, the 605 00:57:30,045 --> 00:57:34,031 crews that were out here, and, uh, I think that this is the best way to fix it. We 606 00:57:34,031 --> 00:57:38,009 don't have to open anything up, um, you know, when, when you're talking about something 607 00:57:38,009 --> 00:57:41,072 that big and that deep, uh, especially with the soil that we have, you know, you're 608 00:57:41,072 --> 00:57:46,033 sloping in a 1 to 2 slope to make sure that, uh, you're not having anything cave 609 00:57:46,033 --> 00:57:51,081 in, and that is a huge work area where we would have IGA move all of their shipping 610 00:57:51,081 --> 00:57:56,056 containers. Remove their fence, hopefully put it back the right way, and this is 611 00:57:56,056 --> 00:58:01,035 a non-intrusive way to fix it with cameras inside the culvert to make sure that we're 612 00:58:02,088 --> 00:58:03,009 Fixing it the right way. 613 00:58:07,014 --> 00:58:12,016 All right, thanks. If any of you have been on the uh east side of uh IGA you've seen. 614 00:58:12,098 --> 00:58:18,081 The Jersey barriers were brought in. And uh the reason was, is uh Ricky had that 615 00:58:18,081 --> 00:58:22,077 all coned off and flagged off, and the truckers moved it and drove over it anyway. 616 00:58:22,093 --> 00:58:28,073 So, we had to do something a little more serious with that. Um, anyway, uh, council, 617 00:58:28,078 --> 00:58:35,019 have any comments or questions? Yes, uh, go ahead. I don't, I don't wanna make an 618 00:58:35,019 --> 00:58:40,007 ignorant question, but isn't this private property? It is private property, but it's 619 00:58:40,007 --> 00:58:43,095 our culvert. OK, created the problem. Got you. OK, yeah. 620 00:58:47,024 --> 00:58:51,038 All right. I can see nothing more from counsel. Any public comments out there? 621 00:58:53,044 --> 00:59:01,044 Seeing none. Um, Yes, Lisa. You got it. OK. I'd like to approve a request of 622 00:59:01,044 --> 00:59:06,011 the City Council of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington to approve groundworks to 623 00:59:06,011 --> 00:59:13,012 perform repairs to a failing city-owned culvert in the IGA parking lot. Second. All 624 00:59:13,012 --> 00:59:17,096 right. Any other comments from the council? All in favor? Aye. All right, thanks, 625 00:59:18,001 --> 00:59:24,097 unanimous. All right, thanks, Ricky. Thank you. All right. Uh, under special agenda 626 00:59:24,097 --> 00:59:30,079 items, uh, we have an ordinance of the City council of the City of Ocean Shores amending 627 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:38,075 the Ocean Shores. Municipal code section 5.10.050 sensitive use 628 00:59:38,075 --> 00:59:46,011 buffers to reduce certain cannabis retailer buffer distances from 1000 ft to 300 629 00:59:46,011 --> 00:59:51,031 ft providing for servability and establishing an effective date and this will be 630 00:59:51,031 --> 00:59:56,044 presented by our city administrator Scott Anderson. All right, so this is a kind 631 00:59:56,044 --> 01:00:00,072 of 3rd time the charm, although it actually relates to something we did a while back. 632 01:00:01,005 --> 01:00:04,008 Um, so a while back we, uh, decided we were gonna follow state regulations with the 633 01:00:04,008 --> 01:00:10,001 licensing of cannabis retailers and allow basically as many as the state would afford 634 01:00:10,001 --> 01:00:16,094 us, uh, before we had a limited one. Um, and that was, that was when they first came 635 01:00:16,094 --> 01:00:21,007 in with regulations from the state to allow marijuana or we should say cannabis retailers, 636 01:00:21,031 --> 01:00:24,058 uh, that has since changed. The state has allowed more than one per community under 637 01:00:24,058 --> 01:00:29,038 10,000, um, and so, you know, competition never hurts and obviously you can see, 638 01:00:29,043 --> 01:00:32,056 you know, one can go out of business and then suddenly we're left with none. So the 639 01:00:32,056 --> 01:00:37,006 original idea was to allow that and that passed council, I think like almost 3 months 640 01:00:37,006 --> 01:00:40,074 ago or so. Uh, and then we had to look at some of our distances. We kinda have some 641 01:00:40,074 --> 01:00:44,006 unique challenges within the city of Ocean Shores and that we have to limit it to 642 01:00:44,006 --> 01:00:49,014 the sort of our commercial, you know, commercial B1 zoning, um, where to put them. 643 01:00:49,019 --> 01:00:53,014 But we have a number of problems with that. We have, uh, the skate park, which is 644 01:00:53,014 --> 01:00:57,009 part of our golf course parcel, and I'll go into a little more detail on that. Um, 645 01:00:58,007 --> 01:01:03,034 we've got Playtime Family Fun. We've got the Pacific Paradise Arcade, we've got Tugboat 646 01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:08,005 Grammys, and it just makes it so there's just not really a lot of places where you 647 01:01:08,007 --> 01:01:12,042 can put a marijuana or cannabis retail outlet within the city of Ocean Shores and 648 01:01:12,042 --> 01:01:15,069 keep it in our business. District, uh, there's just restrictions on it. If it has 649 01:01:15,069 --> 01:01:19,053 a 1000 ft buffer and almost everywhere you go, you're kind of blocked. It would be 650 01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:22,065 like a, you know, kind of a classic video game where you, you really can't move out 651 01:01:22,065 --> 01:01:25,089 of the position that you're in. So we started looking at it and eventually we went 652 01:01:25,089 --> 01:01:29,077 to the planning commission and we said, well, let's, let's move it to 500 ft. Um, 653 01:01:29,098 --> 01:01:33,029 and we kind of went through that process and it looked great until then we realized 654 01:01:33,029 --> 01:01:37,058 that once again, that because of playtime, family fun, because of others, um, we 655 01:01:37,058 --> 01:01:41,012 were still blocked out of almost every location. So like, what could we do to do 656 01:01:41,014 --> 01:01:45,002 this? So, there's a couple of things that I just have to have some facts before we 657 01:01:45,002 --> 01:01:49,031 do this. And one is that the method of measurement is really important in Washington 658 01:01:49,031 --> 01:01:56,003 state law. So this is the WAC 31,455,050, and state law requires buffer distances 659 01:01:56,003 --> 01:02:01,011 to be measured as the crow flies in a straight line from property line to property 660 01:02:01,011 --> 01:02:07,004 line. Part two, local municipal authority states set the default rules of a 1000 661 01:02:07,004 --> 01:02:12,085 ft buffer in local municipalities, but they're explicitly empowered to pass ordinances 662 01:02:12,085 --> 01:02:19,044 relate reducing non-school, non-playground buffers down to as low as 100 ft. That's 663 01:02:19,044 --> 01:02:24,006 the lowest you can go under state law. Um, elementary, secondary school, and public 664 01:02:24,006 --> 01:02:28,096 playgrounds, which our state park is considered, must permanently remain protected 665 01:02:28,096 --> 01:02:35,077 at 1000 ft. Um, then we have the classification of commercial entities and, um, that 666 01:02:35,077 --> 01:02:40,037 is so Playtime Family Fund, Playtime Family Fund Center, and Pacific Paradise are 667 01:02:40,037 --> 01:02:45,001 classified by the state as restricted commercial recreational entities due to their 668 01:02:45,001 --> 01:02:50,027 central positioning. The 1000 ft radii overlap and effectively lock out any business 669 01:02:50,042 --> 01:02:55,069 that wants to relocate, uh, in that part of the city. So that we have to have a buffer 670 01:02:55,069 --> 01:03:00,009 reduction for and that the state does allow for and then. Two more of these building 671 01:03:00,009 --> 01:03:07,007 structural standards and restrictions. This is from WAC 31455086. Uh, retailers are 672 01:03:07,007 --> 01:03:12,091 legally barred from operating in multi-tenant buildings with shared interior walkways. 673 01:03:13,011 --> 01:03:17,089 So Driftwood Plaza, another place that you could potentially put one otherwise, cannot 674 01:03:17,091 --> 01:03:21,066 be used. So you're trying to see we'll just get locked out as we go. So the only 675 01:03:21,066 --> 01:03:27,002 real solution we had to allowing, um, more than one cannabis dispensary, and frankly 676 01:03:27,002 --> 01:03:31,042 might only be allowed one, because of some other information that's come to light, 677 01:03:31,075 --> 01:03:36,033 uh, even if it is only. One that ever gets in is we have to adopt at least a minimum 678 01:03:36,033 --> 01:03:42,001 of a 300 ft buffer for non-school, non-playground entities, and that would resolve 679 01:03:42,001 --> 01:03:48,008 the overlapping commercial radii, uh, and the and allow viable commercial sites, 680 01:03:48,026 --> 01:03:52,005 uh, on Point Brown as well as one of the places people have looked at is the Martin 681 01:03:52,005 --> 01:03:56,044 Bruni liquor location and then that would be allowed even though it's somewhat adjacent 682 01:03:56,007 --> 01:04:01,017 playtime family fun, but it's not 300 ft away from that. So those are really kind 683 01:04:01,017 --> 01:04:07,009 of our only options in doing that is the 300 ft um it's not an entirely, you know, 684 01:04:07,018 --> 01:04:13,077 a number that is uh 500 didn't do it the lowest we can go is 100 so we filed this 685 01:04:13,077 --> 01:04:17,081 under our business licenses and changing our business license and regulations we're, 686 01:04:17,094 --> 01:04:22,061 we're viewing this as a business, uh, regulatory change and not a zoning change and, 687 01:04:22,066 --> 01:04:27,033 and obviously you have the amended language that's in your packets, uh, and with 688 01:04:27,033 --> 01:04:32,048 that I guess I can turn over to council questions. Right. Any questions? Yes, Lisa? 689 01:04:33,093 --> 01:04:38,056 Wouldn't the um liquor store property be considered a multi-tenant building? It's, 690 01:04:38,069 --> 01:04:42,076 well, here, here's the cure language, yeah, and yes, you are right, but there's a 691 01:04:42,076 --> 01:04:48,012 second clause in that, and it says retailers are legally barred from operating multi-tenant 692 01:04:48,012 --> 01:04:53,008 buildings with shared interior walkways. So that's what Driftwood Plaza has, as you 693 01:04:53,008 --> 01:04:56,068 can go through it, but that's why the Martin Bruni location would be allowed. OK, 694 01:04:56,081 --> 01:05:03,088 thank you. All right. Any other questions from council? Comments? Yes, Lisa Griebel. 695 01:05:04,027 --> 01:05:10,092 Thank you, Mayor, and uh Well, I, I wanna be supportive of community members who 696 01:05:10,092 --> 01:05:15,067 access cannabis for medical reasons, I guess my question is, what is our benefit 697 01:05:15,069 --> 01:05:21,056 to the city by having a, uh, another cannabis business? Well, right now we have none, 698 01:05:21,073 --> 01:05:27,028 so there's one that's located outside the city, um, and so obviously the city's benefit 699 01:05:27,028 --> 01:05:30,096 is, uh, you don't have to drive outside the city on a slightly dangerous intersection. 700 01:05:31,024 --> 01:05:35,039 And we're collecting the tax revenue by opening it rather than them and we're affording 701 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:39,094 a business license and bringing jobs into our community. Right, which is what my 702 01:05:39,094 --> 01:05:44,059 question was. What was the benefit to the city? So you're saying, uh, business license. 703 01:05:44,082 --> 01:05:48,012 I'm saying, yeah, the business license is jobs, business license, and taxes. That's 704 01:05:48,026 --> 01:05:49,069 hopefully I answered that for you. 705 01:05:52,005 --> 01:05:55,032 Alright, yes, go ahead. In addition to the medical needs of our community, sorry, 706 01:05:55,042 --> 01:05:58,067 because that's a very important part of it. There are a lot of people who are veterans, 707 01:05:58,085 --> 01:06:03,024 seniors who really do rely on and or people have had chronic health conditions that 708 01:06:03,024 --> 01:06:08,019 really do rely on it. So that's another part of it. Just a quick, we did already 709 01:06:08,019 --> 01:06:15,023 vote on allowing more additional. This is just for the reduction of the actual square 710 01:06:15,023 --> 01:06:20,001 footage or the actual that is correct. Thank you. Yes, Richard. 711 01:06:22,095 --> 01:06:26,098 Details are in the weeds and so I'm in the weeds a lot because you can't build a 712 01:06:26,098 --> 01:06:30,009 structure without details, without the weeds, without structure. My question is, 713 01:06:31,015 --> 01:06:37,018 and this is very closely related, isn't the Washington RCW that uh uh if you have 714 01:06:37,018 --> 01:06:42,046 a cannabis store that if you walk into the lobby of that store, none of that cannabis 715 01:06:42,046 --> 01:06:48,007 product and and perfume and all of that. Stuff that can't be in the public access 716 01:06:48,023 --> 01:06:52,034 you have to go behind the counter behind the door is that is my memory correct? You, 717 01:06:52,043 --> 01:06:57,001 you are correct. It's not addressed by what we're doing here tonight, um, because 718 01:06:57,001 --> 01:07:01,083 there's a whole host of ordinances and wax that come with, you know, the licensing 719 01:07:01,083 --> 01:07:06,003 and distribution of any cannabis retailer, um, but that is more or less correct. 720 01:07:06,055 --> 01:07:11,092 That's a liquor control board issue. That's kind of what we did is we turned it over. 721 01:07:12,011 --> 01:07:17,001 The first time we voted on this, we turned it over to the Liquor Control Board to 722 01:07:17,015 --> 01:07:20,086 monitor and, and to make the rules up for that, so the city will be out of that. 723 01:07:21,085 --> 01:07:25,061 Thank, thank you for the clarification and the, and, and my point was, is we are 724 01:07:25,061 --> 01:07:29,008 not just putting up a street corner marijuana and come on down, get your drugs like 725 01:07:29,008 --> 01:07:35,026 they do in, in, in, in, in Holland. No matter what we do here, it still has to pass 726 01:07:35,033 --> 01:07:40,004 the Liquor and Cannabis Control Board regulations and so that's this is just saying 727 01:07:40,004 --> 01:07:43,066 this area can be used, but you will still have to meet all their requirements. 728 01:07:45,075 --> 01:07:52,006 All right. Anything else? Yes, Lisa Scribble. So, but Scott, there are other areas 729 01:07:52,006 --> 01:07:57,094 in B1 zones that if there weren't, if we didn't lower the restrictions, there are 730 01:07:57,094 --> 01:08:02,076 still other places in our city a business could go in. I think according to our own 731 01:08:02,082 --> 01:08:07,057 city code, the only places they can go is within that box. That's not an RC that 732 01:08:07,057 --> 01:08:11,085 is not the state regulation. That's according to our city code and how we've zone 733 01:08:11,085 --> 01:08:16,061 it. So the places they could go are from Ocean Shores Boulevard to Point Brown Avenue, 734 01:08:16,009 --> 01:08:21,000 um, to, you know, you could go as far south as, uh, Chancellor La Mer and the south 735 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,085 side of Chancellor La Mer and then obviously as far north as where Ocean Shores Boulevard 736 01:08:24,085 --> 01:08:28,073 loops around. I'm not sure there are other places you could relocate that within 737 01:08:28,073 --> 01:08:32,012 the city under. Our current, our current zoning laws. 738 01:08:34,075 --> 01:08:42,049 Right. Any Anything else? All right. Uh, no. Hang on for that. Um, we've got, 739 01:08:42,055 --> 01:08:47,083 uh, public comment coming up and, uh, AJ Peters, if he's here, he can come up and 740 01:08:47,083 --> 01:08:52,052 speak. And then uh anybody else in the crowd that would like to comment, OK, you'll 741 01:08:52,052 --> 01:08:53,006 be next. 742 01:08:58,066 --> 01:09:02,057 See if I can speak loud enough at this time. Good evening, Mayor, members of the 743 01:09:02,057 --> 01:09:07,049 city council. My name is AJ Peters. I am a resident of Ocean Shores. I'm speaking 744 01:09:07,049 --> 01:09:11,041 tonight regarding the proposed cannabis buffer zone regulations. I urge the council 745 01:09:11,041 --> 01:09:17,053 to reject that 300 ft buffer and instead adopt the 100 ft buffer. The city of Pacific, 746 01:09:18,018 --> 01:09:24,037 small, brought it down to 100 ft. Um, I personally, uh, been working on this for 747 01:09:24,037 --> 01:09:31,008 about a year. Finally, the cap's been lifted. And Have a Heart is now being bought 748 01:09:31,008 --> 01:09:35,068 out by Cannabis 21, which is the other one on Hogan's Corner, which is the other 749 01:09:35,068 --> 01:09:41,004 one in Hoquiam, Aberdeen, so they're kind of getting the full stretch. I'm not opposed 750 01:09:41,004 --> 01:09:48,039 to that, but at that same time with him getting that or them getting that store location, 751 01:09:48,085 --> 01:09:54,078 they're also shopping for real estate now as well. Um, I'm guessing that inflicted 752 01:09:54,078 --> 01:09:59,061 with the, the buffer issue. So whether or not they stay there or they go elsewhere, 753 01:09:59,065 --> 01:10:03,084 if they go elsewhere, we're not looking at a whole lot of places that we can put 754 01:10:03,084 --> 01:10:10,027 a cannabis store. Um, as far as, uh, I kind of wanted to pick on your little question 755 01:10:10,027 --> 01:10:15,093 there. You can't have anything visible from outside for cannabis liquor control board. 756 01:10:16,058 --> 01:10:22,004 Um, however, like have a heart, you'd walk through the door and cannabis is clearly 757 01:10:22,004 --> 01:10:28,011 visible. I think that if that is something for our community to be looked at, that 758 01:10:28,013 --> 01:10:33,044 there should be some kind of an entryway where nothing is, which was kind of my idea 759 01:10:33,044 --> 01:10:38,024 in general, just to keep our community and visitors and guests from walking into 760 01:10:38,024 --> 01:10:42,035 such a situation like that and make it to where you come in, you're greeted at a, 761 01:10:42,037 --> 01:10:46,007 a medical, like a medical office and invited into the back. I think that that would 762 01:10:46,007 --> 01:10:51,078 be something that council might think about enacting um whether or not it's for me 763 01:10:51,078 --> 01:10:58,014 or for somebody else I don't really care but at the same time 100 ft to a 300 ft 764 01:10:58,014 --> 01:11:02,058 as a crow flies it would be nice if it was just take out a tape measure and go you 765 01:11:02,058 --> 01:11:07,066 know but they don't do it that way and with this being such a small little. Nook 766 01:11:07,066 --> 01:11:12,007 and cranny, they're literally real estate. There's none. Um, the way that it's looking, 767 01:11:12,092 --> 01:11:18,032 uh, I put a lot of time and, you know, stress, mental and physical time and all this, 768 01:11:18,035 --> 01:11:25,018 um, but I'm not seeing really a, a, a factor where we can accommodate a second license 769 01:11:25,018 --> 01:11:31,013 at this point. If we keep these buffers the way they are, I mean, we, we're a family 770 01:11:31,013 --> 01:11:36,092 fun town, um, yes, we all want to keep it that way, so you know if we have one, we 771 01:11:36,092 --> 01:11:42,076 have two, it's, it's great, but at the same time I think that it needs to be a 100 772 01:11:42,076 --> 01:11:47,016 ft buffer to make it work if we're going to actually try to get another store in 773 01:11:47,016 --> 01:11:51,016 here, otherwise it just makes it to where have a heart can reopen under cannabis 774 01:11:51,016 --> 01:11:56,064 21 under that 300 ft rule and it still kind of kicks everything to the curb. Thank 775 01:11:56,064 --> 01:11:56,008 you. 776 01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:00,007 All right, next. Yeah, go ahead. 777 01:12:09,088 --> 01:12:15,058 Uh, I just wanted to mention to Lisa's, uh, comment, a real benefit that I think 778 01:12:15,058 --> 01:12:20,086 would be to have one in town. So far since Have a Heart is closed, I've seen many 779 01:12:20,086 --> 01:12:27,038 people walking out to Cannabis 21 on 115 and I don't know if you've ever walked on 780 01:12:27,038 --> 01:12:33,005 115, but it's dangerous and so that would be an immediate benefit to stop people 781 01:12:33,005 --> 01:12:37,058 from walking out there. That's, that's my only thought on that. 782 01:12:40,012 --> 01:12:47,014 All right. Any other uh public comment out there? Uh, seeing none. All right. Uh, 783 01:12:47,023 --> 01:12:52,014 yes, Lisa. I would like to go ahead and make a motion to approve an ordinance of 784 01:12:52,014 --> 01:12:56,078 the City Council of the City of Ocean Shores, Washington, amending Ocean Shores Municipal 785 01:12:56,078 --> 01:13:03,098 Code Section 5.10.050, sensitive use buffers to reduce certain cannabis retail buffer 786 01:13:03,098 --> 01:13:10,012 distances from 1000 ft to 300 ft, providing for severability and establishing an 787 01:13:10,012 --> 01:13:17,018 effective date. I have one more question if I can before we go to the vote. You can 788 01:13:17,018 --> 01:13:24,051 do that after 2. All right, we have a second, uh. And so then I do have another comment. 789 01:13:24,088 --> 01:13:29,079 I have another question, and this is for Scott. Uh, you have obviously done a lot 790 01:13:29,079 --> 01:13:33,051 of research on this and understand better, so I'm thinking about the gentleman who 791 01:13:33,051 --> 01:13:40,002 just spoke about the 100 ft buffer is. Is that something that the council should 792 01:13:40,062 --> 01:13:47,087 uh uh discuss and consider uh is. As I understood that comment, it was more about 793 01:13:48,029 --> 01:13:52,084 providing the opportunity for competition. And if the one available property is bought 794 01:13:52,084 --> 01:13:57,085 up by Pony One, then we have a virtual monopoly from here to, to, you know, Am I 795 01:13:57,085 --> 01:14:00,073 making any kind of sense? No, I do know what you're saying. And like I said, you 796 01:14:00,073 --> 01:14:05,017 know, the difference between 300 ft and 100 ft, it, it is arbitrary. You are allowed 797 01:14:05,017 --> 01:14:09,021 to go down to 100 ft. Originally, like I said, we'd had the planning clinician look 798 01:14:09,021 --> 01:14:14,057 at 500, determine that would not be enough. Uh, 300 would allow, allow for actually 799 01:14:14,057 --> 01:14:21,093 multiple locations within the city. There would be at least 3 to 4 options, um, that, 800 01:14:22,014 --> 01:14:26,029 that could use that, that I know of. Uh, there, there might even be more. Uh, it 801 01:14:26,029 --> 01:14:29,037 just sort of solves our problem and with that, the planning commission was happy 802 01:14:29,037 --> 01:14:32,041 with that number. I don't want to speak on behalf of the planning commission and 803 01:14:32,041 --> 01:14:38,029 have them change that at this point. Your answer that there are multiple potentials 804 01:14:38,029 --> 01:14:44,008 at the 300 ft answers my question. Thank you so much. All right, thanks. Any other 805 01:14:44,008 --> 01:14:50,079 comment? Questions by counsel? All right, we have a motion in a second. All in favor? 806 01:14:51,026 --> 01:14:54,027 Aye. All right, unanimous. Thank you. 807 01:14:58,065 --> 01:15:04,036 All right. We'll move on to future meeting topics. Um, if any council members would 808 01:15:04,036 --> 01:15:12,024 like to make a motion to add an item to a future. Uh, topic list, uh. Yes, Lisa 809 01:15:12,024 --> 01:15:18,045 Greebel. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, my suggestion from our ad hoc committee is to, uh, 810 01:15:18,058 --> 01:15:24,098 for a future agenda topic is a council discussion on forming a community art committee, 811 01:15:25,005 --> 01:15:30,057 and that discussion would include why we would, uh, why we would need one, the purpose 812 01:15:30,057 --> 01:15:34,037 of that committee, what, who the members would be comprised of, and how they would 813 01:15:34,037 --> 01:15:41,039 be. selected and then just for the opportunity to um use that community art committee 814 01:15:41,039 --> 01:15:49,001 to work with our city and our community members to continue to improve uh the appearance 815 01:15:49,001 --> 01:15:54,004 of our town. Which would, you know, fold into marketing, whether it was the appearance, 816 01:15:54,061 --> 01:16:00,002 whether it was people attracted to our community to see art, whether it was the increase 817 01:16:00,002 --> 01:16:05,002 in art festivals or other opportunities, and then again just to try to increase the 818 01:16:05,002 --> 01:16:12,067 mediums that are used and the um To, uh, the artists as well as a, a 819 01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:19,027 really transparent way to Solicit art from all of our community members and have, 820 01:16:19,037 --> 01:16:21,004 have an opportunity to participate. 821 01:16:23,076 --> 01:16:29,004 All right, Annie. Yes, go ahead, Lisa. Lisa, were you looking to put that on at the 822 01:16:29,004 --> 01:16:34,057 next meeting, or are, are you like looking for a, a quicker time frame? I just was 823 01:16:34,069 --> 01:16:40,025 curious, so, oh, I would love to have it on the next one. The reason why is the, 824 01:16:40,049 --> 01:16:45,052 the miss uh budget issue because, uh, while we all wish everyone would donate their 825 01:16:45,052 --> 01:16:51,051 art, art to create art is expensive, and the time artists put in to create art is 826 01:16:51,051 --> 01:16:57,057 expensive, so Or you know, knowing what a possible budget could be or the impact 827 01:16:57,069 --> 01:17:02,016 as we move into the budgeting process. So sooner rather than later. Perfect. Well, 828 01:17:02,021 --> 01:17:06,028 I was just on agenda setting. I see our city clerk as a, are you making an official 829 01:17:06,028 --> 01:17:11,018 motion to add something to the future agenda items, then you need a second. I love 830 01:17:11,018 --> 01:17:17,001 that. I would like to thank you. I'd like to make a motion to put that on the next 831 01:17:17,036 --> 01:17:18,012 agenda. 832 01:17:20,015 --> 01:17:26,089 OK, we have a second. Are you, so is your motion to add it. As a future agenda item. 833 01:17:27,008 --> 01:17:32,055 Like in the list of future agenda item list. I would like it on the future agenda 834 01:17:32,055 --> 01:17:38,075 item list and if possible also on the next agenda. Sometimes they still need to stay 835 01:17:38,075 --> 01:17:44,028 on the agenda list because we may not, if, if it's a discussion, be ready or yeah, 836 01:17:44,046 --> 01:17:45,005 get anything done. 837 01:17:47,024 --> 01:17:51,002 Well, I can be brought up uh on Thursday. On that. 838 01:17:54,053 --> 01:18:00,056 Yes, Richard, I would make a friendly, a friendly motion to put it on the next agenda. 839 01:18:01,002 --> 01:18:07,024 I think that it really needs to be there. No, she put it on both an option. I would 840 01:18:07,005 --> 01:18:10,065 amend the motion to put it on the next agenda. 841 01:18:14,049 --> 01:18:20,088 Um Where the motion was to put it on future agenda items. You've got council members 842 01:18:20,088 --> 01:18:26,036 Siers, Taylor, and Scott. They can make the, uh, you know, they can put it on the 843 01:18:26,036 --> 01:18:31,053 next agenda. If the council votes on it, then it's not up to 3 people, it's up to 844 01:18:31,053 --> 01:18:38,016 the council. So we still don't have a 2nd for the initial motion. 2nd, yeah, we had 845 01:18:38,016 --> 01:18:40,039 a 2nd already. It was Richard. 846 01:18:42,068 --> 01:18:49,065 Yeah. So let's uh take one step at a time, Richard. How about that? All right. So, 847 01:18:49,075 --> 01:18:55,077 um We've got a motion a second. We're done discussing it, I assume. So all in favor 848 01:18:55,077 --> 01:19:03,077 of putting this on future agenda items. All right, that's unanimous. OK, yes, Denise, 849 01:19:04,027 --> 01:19:09,038 uh, I'll, I'll just say that I will coordinate with, uh, council member Grebel to 850 01:19:09,038 --> 01:19:14,033 see whether it is ready for the next agenda or whether it would be for the one following 851 01:19:14,035 --> 01:19:14,063 that. 852 01:19:16,088 --> 01:19:20,044 Is that, are you good with that, Richard? I'm good with that with, with, with uh 853 01:19:20,047 --> 01:19:26,002 uh council member Sire's, uh, input there. Yes, that, that works. Thank you. OK, 854 01:19:26,048 --> 01:19:32,029 that's good. All right, so we'll, we'll move on to agenda review committee and, uh, 855 01:19:32,044 --> 01:19:38,079 Thursday, October 1st, 9 a.m. nice and bright and early. Uh, council members, uh, 856 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:44,000 Sires, Taylor, and Scott will be on that, uh, agenda review committee. So we'll move 857 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,006 on to uh go to the order and we'll start with uh Tom Taylor. 858 01:19:53,078 --> 01:20:00,053 I have nothing for tonight All right, um, Lisa Grebel. Thank you, Mayor. I would, 859 01:20:00,066 --> 01:20:04,068 uh, just like to thank all of our council for patience as we muddle through future 860 01:20:04,007 --> 01:20:08,069 agenda items. We'll get, we'll get it figured out. OK. Let's hang in there. We got 861 01:20:08,069 --> 01:20:14,016 our committees figured out, I think, and our our liaison reports versus committee 862 01:20:14,016 --> 01:20:18,053 reports. We've got that mastered, and I have complete confidence we'll master future 863 01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:19,009 agenda items as well. 864 01:20:21,058 --> 01:20:28,074 All right, uh, Allison. Yeah, um Thank you to the people who talked about bringing 865 01:20:28,074 --> 01:20:34,001 more art in our city. That was something that council member Greebel and I were very 866 01:20:34,001 --> 01:20:41,084 excited to hear, um. My other thing is. If you did not have 867 01:20:41,084 --> 01:20:49,054 the opportunity. To attend the opening ceremony for the Vietnam Wall 868 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:57,082 or the 9/11 Memorial, please go online and watch it. It is probably one of 869 01:20:57,082 --> 01:21:05,081 the most moving um speeches I've ever heard, and. Acknowledging 870 01:21:05,083 --> 01:21:12,073 our veterans, and I know I cried for a long time and I was not alone, was I, Chief? 871 01:21:13,053 --> 01:21:20,039 It, it was very, very moving and I was very proud to be able to volunteer with Avert 872 01:21:20,009 --> 01:21:27,006 to be here and um thank you to all the people that put in all the work to bring that 873 01:21:27,006 --> 01:21:33,012 here because I know that was a huge undertaking and I know a lot of people lost a 874 01:21:33,012 --> 01:21:37,007 lot of sleep and went through a lot of stress because they wanted to make sure everything 875 01:21:37,007 --> 01:21:43,035 was perfect. And in my eyes, it was. So thank you to everyone who did that and like 876 01:21:43,035 --> 01:21:50,075 I said, please um watch. The mayor made one statement in his speech and the tears 877 01:21:50,075 --> 01:21:53,028 started and didn't stop for about 3 hours. 878 01:21:55,044 --> 01:21:57,071 Well, thank you for that, um, Denise. 879 01:22:00,024 --> 01:22:05,031 I wanted to uh shout out again our public works department and the leadership they 880 01:22:05,031 --> 01:22:11,091 are showing in getting projects done. Um, I'm not on public works this year but I 881 01:22:11,091 --> 01:22:19,068 was in past years and uh the number of needed improvements in, 882 01:22:19,008 --> 01:22:26,079 in the city were, were really um formidable and um uh pretty daunting. 883 01:22:27,018 --> 01:22:33,041 And seeing our public works go um slowly but surely through the, uh, through each 884 01:22:33,041 --> 01:22:39,004 of them, um, uh, along with Ricky and, and Becky and getting these projects done 885 01:22:39,066 --> 01:22:44,017 and uh I thought it was important to talk about going out to bid because people have 886 01:22:44,017 --> 01:22:51,003 been complaining about the streets, uh, not really truly understanding. Uh, the requirements 887 01:22:51,003 --> 01:22:56,098 that we have for, for state bids and also the, the most important part of that, it's 888 01:22:56,098 --> 01:23:02,033 not just the regulations it that we can do it, uh, much more economical if we group, 889 01:23:02,059 --> 01:23:09,003 uh, projects together. So, uh, thanks to our public works department. Thanks, um, 890 01:23:09,059 --> 01:23:14,094 Lisa Scott. Just to piggyback off Allison, I had the privilege of attending one of 891 01:23:14,094 --> 01:23:21,084 the days of the 9/11 or the um Vietnam Memorial, um, along, along with the tribute 892 01:23:21,084 --> 01:23:29,067 to 9/11 and some Korean War memorial stuff. And it was um very moving, very, very 893 01:23:29,067 --> 01:23:36,041 moving, a lot of, lot of, uh, a lot of wet eyes around the room. I've had the, I 894 01:23:36,041 --> 01:23:42,009 guess, the luxury of being able to actually visit the wall. Um, not very many people 895 01:23:42,009 --> 01:23:49,038 have a chance to do that, and it is, um, It's a testament to the dedication of our 896 01:23:49,038 --> 01:23:53,081 veterans, uh, most definitely, and thanks to all of the volunteers who made that 897 01:23:53,083 --> 01:24:01,039 happen. Thank you, uh, Richard. So thank you. Uh, I want to, to piggyback on what 898 01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:06,075 both the customer sires and customer Greeble said. Uh, I absolutely support the public 899 01:24:06,077 --> 01:24:12,048 works and the job that, that, uh, Ricky and, uh, Becky are doing, a phenomenal progress 900 01:24:12,048 --> 01:24:17,052 made in public works, and I'm really excited about this, this discussion, this committee 901 01:24:17,052 --> 01:24:22,073 about the art throughout the city. Uh, Ocean Shores has, has a bunch of really, really, 902 01:24:22,085 --> 01:24:28,078 really high quality, very competent artists. And the things that makes a city an 903 01:24:28,078 --> 01:24:33,053 attractive place to visit is when there's something to do and looking at art is something 904 01:24:33,059 --> 01:24:39,039 to do and so that will be a major step in improving our, uh, our tourist attraction, 905 01:24:39,063 --> 01:24:44,046 uh, our ability to attract tourists. So, uh, and the sentiments about the Vietnam 906 01:24:44,046 --> 01:24:51,085 Wall, uh, I, I mirror those, uh, we owe those veterans a great debt of gratitude. 907 01:24:52,015 --> 01:24:52,058 Thank you. 908 01:24:55,034 --> 01:24:55,078 Hurt 909 01:24:58,046 --> 01:25:05,093 Canalloween is my new favorite word. Do you? OK. Beyond that I have nothing. All 910 01:25:05,093 --> 01:25:10,085 right, thanks. Uh, the thing about the wall, I just wanna say I was impressed with 911 01:25:10,085 --> 01:25:17,012 the amount of people that, uh, came out and helped out and it was, uh, from all, 912 01:25:17,006 --> 01:25:23,061 all different, uh, political sides and, uh, I thought that was really special that 913 01:25:23,061 --> 01:25:29,005 we could rally behind something like that and not, uh, let our personal feelings 914 01:25:29,005 --> 01:25:35,041 with our politics get in the way. So, um, it was a great event and I hope, uh. Most 915 01:25:35,041 --> 01:25:39,077 of you got to see it. It's worth, it was worth looking at. And I'll tell you, you 916 01:25:39,077 --> 01:25:44,037 know, I went to the, I just wanna say this quickly. I know everybody wants to get 917 01:25:44,037 --> 01:25:51,002 out of here. But when I went up to the Casino where they had it um and I have a relative 918 01:25:51,022 --> 01:25:57,009 on the wall and they uh um gave me the the number what what panel you know to go 919 01:25:57,009 --> 01:26:04,061 find them here when you asked uh for that information the persons people that were 920 01:26:04,061 --> 01:26:09,049 working there with the computers to find that information personally walked the people 921 01:26:09,049 --> 01:26:14,054 out to the section and helped them find their name and I thought that was a special 922 01:26:14,007 --> 01:26:21,092 little touch to the whole thing on that so. Anyway, um Can I get an adjourn? Move 923 01:26:21,092 --> 01:26:24,034 to adjourn. All right, we're adjourned.