1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,000 that time. Even though our clock on the wall doesn't say so. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,240 » Joe is supposed to have that thing running on time. I know. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:14,880 » All right. We will call courts on public safety committee to order. Could I have 4 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:16,080 a roll call, please? >> Mr. Banks 5 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:17,199 » here. >> Mr. Hardy 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,560 » here. >> Mr. McCormack 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,760 » here. >> Mr. Ericson 8 00:00:19,439 --> 00:00:21,680 » here. >> Mr. Walker 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,480 » here. >> Very good. Thank you. Uh, entertain a 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:30,800 motion to approve the minutes from June 11th, 2026. 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:34,559 » I'll make that motion. party support 12 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:38,719 » support McCormack. All in favor say I. >> I 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:42,040 » oppose the same. Very good. Any changes to the agenda? 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,600 Hearing none. I'll entertain a motion to approve the agenda. 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:52,879 » So move. >> I'll second. Hard. 16 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:55,280 » Mr. Hardy. Thank you. Uh any discussion? All those in favor say I. 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,840 » I. >> Oppose the same. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,879 Agenda approved. Uh any public comment for courts and public safety? 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:12,799 Hearing none, prosecutor Baison. Uh grant acceptance and budget adjustment. 20 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:16,560 » Thank you very much. Um so I believe the board is aware that we became eligible. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,119 It's kind of an interesting thing how we became eligible, but that's a side 22 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:26,080 story. Um but we became eligible for what is uh being called a local 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,880 prosecutor grant. Um the board did indicate that they would like us to try 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:35,119 to get it. So we did make an application. It was approved. The the 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:42,720 application and the plan were approved. So as happens with grants, um the money 26 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:47,000 is there and available subject to state funding. Um 27 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,759 there are conditions and rules for the use of it. 28 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:59,200 It's not just something that we can just do anything we want with. It's it's not 29 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:04,960 just a handout. Um the intention of the grant is to deal with what is identified 30 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:09,840 as a backlog. Um on on a positive side, they are 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:14,239 allowing us to define what a backlog is because I'm going to I was honest with 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,599 them. I'll be honest with you, I don't think that we have what most people 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:22,959 would call a backlog. We are pretty efficient in our resolution of the 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:28,720 matters that do come before us. Um but we have volume. Um, as uh those of you 35 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:34,239 who have ever been to Silver Lake know, it gets busy this time of year. Um, we 36 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:41,920 just had our forest festival event. Um, that produces business and we are going 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:48,000 to use the funds to reconfigure our cubicle layout, which I know has been 38 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:53,360 the same since I came here in 2007, and I suspect has been the same going 39 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:56,160 back to at least the early '9s. Um I could check with some people if it 40 00:02:54,640 --> 00:03:02,319 really matters, but we're going to change the cubicle layout and um we're 41 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:09,519 going to um bring in a contract employee who has been in our office before, knows 42 00:03:04,239 --> 00:03:15,200 how how our office functions and um utilize a that for a clerical person to 43 00:03:12,239 --> 00:03:20,560 help us input cases into the system so they can get to Kevin and myself sooner. 44 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,760 And we're hoping that it'll be a a good process. We have we're very optimistic 45 00:03:22,239 --> 00:03:28,080 that it's going to work. Um I did prepare a independent contractor 46 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:35,680 employment form for that person. If you need to see it, I do have it here. Um 47 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:39,840 but um that's that's pretty basic. And uh as far as the budget amendment, this 48 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:44,560 is a reimbursement grant, which means that we have to have the funds 49 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:48,640 available. Um there is a process. Um Heather in my office has already started 50 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:52,879 talking to the treasurer's office to make sure that 51 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,400 items look right and what we're going to need. We are going to have to 52 00:03:54,319 --> 00:04:01,680 demonstrate before we can receive reimbursement for money spent. We have 53 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:08,879 to demonstrate that it has been paid and that the check has cleared and then the 54 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:16,079 Department of Treasury will reimburse the county. 55 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:21,519 Um I am told that our plan for use I did talk to a lady by the name of Sheri 56 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:27,600 Brunma who is the executive director of the prosecutors association. The manner 57 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:33,360 in which we are using our funds has been one of the most streamlined methods of 58 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:39,919 using these funds by other counties that have had this before. It is expected 59 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:43,320 that these funds will be available through 2029. 60 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:51,199 However, that is subject to state budget. 61 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:54,400 If you have any questions, I'll answer any questions you have. 62 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:58,880 » Yes, Mr. Mr. Bison, 63 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,199 with that being a contract for a contract employee, 64 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,800 do we need to pass a resolution approving that contract? Normally 65 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:11,600 contracts with the county have to be approved by the county board. 66 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:17,840 » Um, I am not always sure whether you do or don't. This is part of the reason why 67 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:22,639 I'm trying not to surprise the board with anything and be upfront with you 68 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:27,759 and say this is what our plan is. I I I have absolutely no 69 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:32,160 I like the plan. Thank you for looking into it. Thank you for doing it. I like 70 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:36,000 the plan, but I want to just Tracy with that being a contract. Do you think we 71 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:44,240 need to approve that a contract? >> Um I have it on the agenda for approving 72 00:05:39,280 --> 00:05:50,160 the grant. So, um if you want to put add in there the grant and the um grant 73 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:54,400 agreement. Do you want a copy of the grant or I'm 74 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:59,600 sorry of the contract so that you can >> I believe I added it. I thought I added 75 00:05:57,039 --> 00:06:02,720 that in the agenda. >> I don't know if I gave you the contract 76 00:06:01,039 --> 00:06:05,840 » for the for >> Why don't Why don't we have a copy 77 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,880 because we'll have a >> for for the for the board. 78 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:14,560 » It's in there. >> It's in there. Okay. For for the board 79 00:06:11,039 --> 00:06:21,520 members, do you have an objection? um changing that uh that we also uh 80 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,600 approve the contract that the prosecutor is entering into just to make sure that 81 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:29,440 we covered right. >> I don't see any harm in doing that. So, 82 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,400 » thank you. >> Yeah. 83 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:38,080 » Are there any other questions about this this 84 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:44,160 » um how far do we get into it before we get reimbursed? How how frequent do you 85 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:49,840 request reimbursement? We will send the request as soon as we are eligible to 86 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:58,560 send the request. Um reimbursement from the state is always a interesting 87 00:06:52,880 --> 00:07:03,599 process. Um a another county attempted to you um at least what I was informed 88 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:10,400 by the people that I talked to another county tried to use um the funds to 89 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:17,919 provide raises for existing prosecutors. And that had a lot of hoops and ladders 90 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:25,919 that they had to climb through. And um the reinforcement process was extremely 91 00:07:20,639 --> 00:07:30,240 lengthy. um based on an experienced base um 92 00:07:27,759 --> 00:07:34,800 informed from the people that I talked to Miss Brunma who has experience 93 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:42,800 working with various prosecutors on this using the funds this way has been fairly 94 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:50,800 streamlined and that is the most um precise definition I am able to give 95 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:55,680 you. So you request reimbursement after 6 months or after a year or 96 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,599 » my understanding is is it will be more frequent than that is as as the bills 97 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:05,280 come in and we can work with the treasur's office to demonstrate that the 98 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:09,360 checks have cleared. We can we can process it. Um, 99 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,080 » Tim Tim. >> Yep. 100 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:16,960 » Tracy, I imagine you will set up line items, a specific line item for this in 101 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:21,840 the in the budget. >> The treasur usually sets up the chart of 102 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:27,680 accounts uh for those and then um I'll be doing the budget adjustment to cover 103 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,919 those and we'll just um it'll be a um balance between your revenues and 104 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:33,120 expenditures. >> Yeah. But but we'll have a specific line 105 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:35,039 item for this grant >> and the 106 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,200 » that is what we would like. Yes. >> Yes. and the grant 107 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,039 » make it easier for everybody. >> Yeah. 108 00:08:37,839 --> 00:08:46,320 » Um talking about uh reimbursement, um we can usually have their checks are 109 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:49,440 usually cleared within a month. So it shouldn't be that long to be able to 110 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,040 submit that to the state for reimbursement. 111 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:57,680 » I would just No, I know. >> So I'm just thinking how how much we 112 00:08:55,839 --> 00:09:01,279 have invested. If it gets rejected, okay, we're not you're not qualified. 113 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:07,040 We're not going to pay you. We've already spent the money, you know. So, 114 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,800 how much maybe it's not much risk, but how much risk do we have if they don't 115 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,320 if they decide we're not going to get reimbursed? Well, 116 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:18,800 » I have similar concerns and what I've been told is the way we are using this 117 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,720 that the risk is not high. >> Good is what I've been told 118 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:27,600 » based on the total amount of the grant for 90ome,000. 119 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:32,000 it it's not going to be that great, you know, 120 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:36,519 you know, if if they're processing the the bills all the time. So, 121 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,200 » good. Seems reasonable. >> Any other questions? 122 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,519 » Very good. >> Thank you, Mr. B. 123 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:50,640 » Um, so just to be clear, you you you are or we're expecting that you're going to 124 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,839 want me to sign this. >> Pardon me. You are expecting that you're 125 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,440 going to want me to sign the agreement because I have not signed it. I I wanted 126 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,959 to make sure that the board was yes on board. 127 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,240 » Sure. >> We we will do all of the approvals at 128 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:07,360 our 11:30 meeting. Yeah. It'll be all >> Thank you very much. 129 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,760 » I don't see a I don't Does anybody see a problem? 130 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,200 » As always, if there is anything you need to ask me, I'm available as needed. 131 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,480 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 132 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:24,079 » Thank you, >> Sheriff Schiller. We have a uh school 133 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:28,720 resource officer conversation. >> Good morning everyone. 134 00:10:26,079 --> 00:10:33,279 Thank you. Um I know there's not a resolution or a contract or there really 135 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:36,880 wasn't any paperwork in your packet and I I spoke with Miss Bard about it and um 136 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:42,480 so it's just a discussion item on the agenda today, but I I know there were uh 137 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:46,720 a couple of questions uh about the potential partnership with Hart Public 138 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:51,760 Schools and so I asked Mr. Brad Jacobs, um, superintendent, newly, uh, incoming 139 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:55,760 superintendent for HARP to come in today and maybe to answer any questions that 140 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:59,279 you guys might have. Um, obviously, you know that we, uh, currently are 141 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:06,240 providing an SRO to Shelby Public Schools. Um and there's a a contract in 142 00:11:02,079 --> 00:11:13,519 place there um currently and uh we would really probably take that contract and 143 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:20,320 um customize it for for HART um if if that's uh the direction and we 144 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:27,200 ultimately end up going um actually if public schools uh ends up going with us. 145 00:11:22,959 --> 00:11:32,959 So um if uh if Mr. uh Jacobs would like to answer any questions. I I'm sure he 146 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:38,800 he's happy to. He he has a a strong understanding of uh of SRO programs and 147 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:44,320 uh what they bring to, you know, school districts um that he's been at in the 148 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,920 past. So, Mr. Jacobs, >> thank you. 149 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,480 » Good morning. >> Good morning. 150 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:54,800 » Morning. Welcome. Thank you. >> My name is Brad Jacobs. I'm the new 151 00:11:52,160 --> 00:12:00,480 superintendent. A few of you I I know. Um, but excited to be here. But yes, uh, 152 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:04,079 as Ryan said, looking to possibly partner with the sheriff's department. 153 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:08,240 Uh, full transparency, we are interviewing a candidate from the city 154 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:12,240 from city police. We're looking for a fit. So, it's more important to me to 155 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,839 have the right person rather than department. I can work with either, you 156 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,839 know, I know an very well. I know Ryan and Craig very well. So, I'm comfortable 157 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:23,839 working with either entity. We just want to find that right person. So, that's 158 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:29,760 kind of what I had reached out to Craig and Ryan on um early few weeks ago just 159 00:12:28,079 --> 00:12:35,040 to see if it was a possibility because like you said, um I know or like Ryan 160 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:39,120 said, you currently partner with Shelby. So, we just wanted to see if that would 161 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:42,560 be an option for us as well. >> So, 162 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,200 is your current contract with the city of heart? 163 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:49,519 » It is, but just it's up through this year. So, it it's done as of now. So, 164 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,600 and like I said, we are interviewing a candidate from them, but we'd also like 165 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,560 to interview a couple one or two candidates from the sheriff's 166 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:59,839 department, too, if if possible. >> Gotcha. 167 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,279 » So, and I like Ryan said, I have so I was up in Indian River uh for quite a 168 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:10,720 few years, and we were one of the first schools up north probably back in 2018, 169 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:14,240 we um partnered with Tuscarora Township Police to have a full-time SRO. We were 170 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:18,720 one of the few schools up there, and we were very small. we were 600 kids in our 171 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:22,240 district. Um, so very important to me. School safety is very important. Looking 172 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,920 forward to working with Ryan and Craig and the whole and everyone just to make 173 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:30,959 sure we're doing what we can to keep our kiddos safe. So, 174 00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:34,240 » Mr. Ericson, how long were you in Scottville? 175 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:38,639 » I was up there nine years. So, we did a ton up there with uh school safety, 176 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:42,880 Oscar Dilla, worked very closely with him, former heart student. Um, we were 177 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:45,920 one of the first schools. So, I was the high school principal, 178 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:52,160 Mace County Central. We were one of the first schools to have a active live 179 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:57,760 shooter drill with students there um in the state and that was probably back 180 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,680 2015 16 something like that. But we did it in partnership with the Mason County 181 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:06,160 Sheriff's Department and went extremely well. Had a number of districts in the 182 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:10,480 state call us on that just to see how we did it and how we implement it and 183 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:14,320 things like that. So, yeah. No, since >> since my time up there, it's been very 184 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:19,120 very important to me for school safety. Unfortunately, you know, back in 1990 185 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:23,600 when I first started teaching, safety was not 186 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:28,959 on the forefront. It was teaching math and all that and obviously life changes. 187 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:32,399 So, we adapt and go from there. >> Tim, 188 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:39,360 thank you for your comment about interviewing with both. My background 189 00:14:35,199 --> 00:14:43,600 was in police work and uh as a matter of fact I have I was a licensed police 190 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,639 officer for 51 years in the state of Michigan. 191 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:51,199 » Okay. >> So that tells you that 192 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:54,399 I'm close to being a senior citizen. But uh your comment that you are 193 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:58,399 interviewing somebody through the city of park into the Oceanana County 194 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Sheriff's Department and the decisions going to be made 195 00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:07,920 » gives me a lot better feeling than if we just all of a sudden move from one 196 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:12,720 agency to the other one, right? >> You know, so everybody's in it appears 197 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:18,320 to me that everybody's involved with this. everybody knows what's going on 198 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:22,639 because I I I know that often there are comments made what was this shift made 199 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:28,880 what was done you know what was going on and all of this and you've taken care of 200 00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:33,760 that by you know talking to both administrations and interviewing from 201 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:36,800 both departments so that that takes care of the concerns that I had and thank you 202 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:42,399 for that >> Sure absolutely 203 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:47,120 » so Skipsky is not or Skipsky you may >> he not so and that was not any my 204 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,680 decision that was made with previous administration to not um go forward with 205 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:55,680 him >> and again I can't speak to that I wasn't 206 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:59,839 here whether it was a fit thing or we're getting what they want I'm not sure I 207 00:15:57,519 --> 00:16:05,920 just when I came aboard we needed a new SRO position so again I wanted to I like 208 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,360 to have all my options on the table and again I want to find the best person 209 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:13,120 because I've worked with outstanding SRO's um so I just want to make sure we 210 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:17,279 get that right person in there. So, it takes a special person to work with with 211 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:21,279 kids. It's not, you know, >> I'm not sure we can get you as good a 212 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:26,800 dancer as Tim Simon. So, >> well, like I talked to Ryan. I you know, 213 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,079 his his mother taught at heart, so maybe maybe we can get him over here, but Mark 214 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:36,079 Olmstead wanted nothing to do with that. So, yeah, that was shot down right away. 215 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:42,160 » You don't you know, there's a lot to be said of what Paul just mentioned. Yeah, 216 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:46,639 » Tim does a phenomenal job and Tim lives right here. 217 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:50,480 » So, he's available and sometimes when you don't live in here, you're not 218 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:56,399 available for those sport sporting events, for the dances, for everything 219 00:16:52,880 --> 00:17:00,720 else as much as an SRO needs to be, >> right? Absolutely. 220 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:05,520 » Every every kid that's in that school needs to recognize that face and needs 221 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:09,039 to know that person as deputy so and so or officer so and so. every single 222 00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:13,520 moment. >> Well, and I I I'd like to for the room 223 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:18,319 to know that I really truly appreciate what Skipsky Kevin has done at our high 224 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:24,079 school. You know, he had a good rapport and he was there and readily available 225 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:28,160 and uh if he's not coming back, I wish him well and and you know, hope we can 226 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,280 find the right fit. >> Yep. 227 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:31,360 » Mhm. >> Yeah. 228 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:36,559 » Cuz it is important. I mean, it really is in today's world. And when my wife 229 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:40,880 taught special ed in her high school, there were many times that it would have 230 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:43,919 been best if she would have been able to have taken a student right down to an 231 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,360 SRO >> and to go through the counseling system 232 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:52,640 and to go into the mental health side of it and all the things that we have. 233 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:57,280 » Just the presence of an officer. it. If you spent so many years in Mesa County 234 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:01,039 Central, you realize that every school district can't have a mark like Lington 235 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,280 had to take care of the everyday operations and have the rapport with the 236 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:06,080 students. >> Yeah. 237 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,320 » When I was on Lington Police Department, we worked a lot together. 238 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:14,880 » Yeah. >> And we had Mark Boon and Hart when he 239 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:18,480 first graduated. Boon rode down with Porky Newkerk and the rest of them 240 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,720 » and taught in Hart. >> You're dating yourself there. 241 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,720 » I I had 242 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:29,039 Everybody should have known Jim O'Neal knew. So, 243 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:31,919 » yeah. >> All right. Any other questions? 244 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,400 » Best of luck. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. 245 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:39,520 » Thank you. >> We probably if uh depending on what the 246 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:44,000 next few weeks looks like, we would likely probably have something in your 247 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:48,400 next board packet. I think that would be the hope. So if that's 248 00:18:45,919 --> 00:18:54,720 » well I again I'm sure 249 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:58,400 for me any minor concerns that I had have been taken care of would 250 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,039 » Excellent. Oh that's great coming in today and talking to us about it. Thank 251 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,960 you. >> Okay. 252 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:06,120 » Thank you gentlemen. >> Thank you. 253 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:16,160 » Let's see here. Uh, Minister Byron, uh, childcare budget approval and 254 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:23,120 submission. >> Um, each year we present the child care 255 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:31,600 budget um through state to you all and we're asking for um approval for 533,582 256 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:35,840 um the budget approval and submission to the state. 257 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:42,400 Mhm. >> We have to do this ahead of time to 258 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:48,400 coincide with the state budget budget. >> Any questions, discussion? 259 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,679 » Very good. Any department head reports? Guess we don't have 260 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,400 » Yeah. >> Uh public comment as we close courts and 261 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,400 public safety 262 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,559 hearing. None. We'll adjourn. 263 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,960 I'll try and talk really slow. >> Yeah, 264 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:14,080 » I'd like to call the order of finance administration committee. May we have a 265 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,600 roll call, please? >> Mr. Hardy 266 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,799 » here. >> Mr. Banks 267 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,400 » here. >> Mr. McCormack 268 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,799 » here. >> Mr. Ericson. 269 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,000 » Yes. >> Here. 270 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,120 » Mr. Walker >> here. 271 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:29,440 » It ask for approval of the meeting minutes from June 25th, 2026. 272 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:34,559 » Make a motion to approve. >> Support. Motion by Beg, support by 273 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Walker. Um, all in favor? I >> I oppose. Same. Motion carried. Any 274 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,960 changes to the agenda? 275 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,280 Hearing none, I'll ask for approval of the agenda. 276 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,960 » I'll make a motion to approve. >> Motion by Begs. 277 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,400 » Support. >> Support by McCormack. Uh, all in favor? 278 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,799 I >> oppose. Same. Motion carried. Is there 279 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,919 any public comment at this time for the finance administration committee? 280 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:05,520 Hearing none, I'll move on. Administrator Bard 281 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:10,640 administrator review selected claims for payment and administrators report. Uh 282 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:15,720 claims for payment have been provided for you. Are there any questions with 283 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,720 those? 284 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:25,360 If not, um I've provided a report in your packet for um the administrator's 285 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:33,840 report. Um, however, I did want to add that um I left a um summary or 286 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:39,840 anformational piece um on your desk this morning um with regards to the separate 287 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:49,200 tax um limitations proposal that is on the ballot. Um this is anformational 288 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:54,880 piece only. Um we are not um we are not ad advocating for correct advocating for 289 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:59,679 anyone to vote a certain way. This is just information only and if you would 290 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:06,640 like me to email that on to you I can do that. Um anyone needs copies or anything 291 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:10,240 like that let me know. Um please look that over and if you see 292 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:17,520 anything you would like changed we can do that as well. 293 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:21,200 Is it appropriate to send that uh out to the media? We're not 294 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,000 advocating anything. >> No, we're not. 295 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:28,159 » I think so. >> I think it's fine. I mean, 296 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,440 » it's an explains very well. >> Excellent explanation. I think it should 297 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:35,840 go on. >> I think it would certainly u information 298 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,760 is great. So, >> yeah, 299 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,640 » you know, I don't see a problem because again, we're not advocating either way. 300 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:47,200 We're just kind of explaining what that actually is. So I think that would be it 301 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:52,000 » and that just from my own personal experience on social media the the 302 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:57,039 question is already being interacted with. Um and I I engaged a few 303 00:22:55,039 --> 00:23:02,880 conversations this week to kind of dispel some incorrect information. Um 304 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:08,080 you know uh at the same time there are a lot of taxpayers residents that are 305 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:13,440 asking so does a no vote mean my taxes will go down? and and that's a very real 306 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:19,600 I mean and it will um but I also actually explain what services will 307 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:25,840 disappear uh if that if a if a majority of people say no it's just facts 308 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:29,919 » um you know and uh it's pretty bleak facts in my opinion I I don't like 309 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:36,480 property taxes any more than anybody else uh probably less than most uh but 310 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:40,799 » if it if it's not a constitutional mandate it's probably going to disappear 311 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,400 And if it is a constitutional mandate, we're probably going to fulfill the 312 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:46,720 minimum required on that mandate. >> Mhm. 313 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,400 » Yep. >> And it affects the townships too, 314 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,240 » right? >> Well, we've seen it for solid cost 315 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:58,400 cutting up a district 10, you know, there was automatically 316 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:03,039 changes made. >> Yeah. So, 317 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:07,120 » I think it's a good idea to get it out there and 318 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:11,520 » you know, Craig, on the administrator's report, 319 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:16,240 would it be appropriate that I could bring up something with that that Tracy 320 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:18,960 and I talked about yesterday and that's the internship? 321 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:25,200 » Sure. >> We have a the sheriff's department has 322 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:33,760 had interns for ever. you know that it's interns are really part of the licensing 323 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:38,320 for to uh balance for police officers and they do that. We have another 324 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:42,640 department now who is going to an internship program. 325 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:47,360 About two years ago was it that there was some changes on internship programs 326 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:52,000 where they have to be compensated and paid under certain conditions and 327 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:56,799 everything. And Tracy and I talked about this other department that has gone 328 00:24:53,679 --> 00:25:02,559 ahead and started an internship program. And 329 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Tracy said it first, but I concur with Tracy that we probably need a policy and 330 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:14,720 a procedure on internship program and before those people can actually start 331 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:20,720 working. the things that have to be dealt with in the administrator's office 332 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:26,400 the same as if they were an employee to make sure that we are covering ourselves 333 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:31,039 under the new regulations and everything and going forward. 334 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:35,360 » Tracy, did I put that well? >> Yes. 335 00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:40,000 » And uh Tracy is going to work on with her 336 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:44,840 office on a policy on insurance. >> Okay. And it we we 337 00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:57,200 it it should also cover the people that are coming in to ride with the sh 338 00:25:53,200 --> 00:26:03,200 department. We may have to have some variation there. But for liability 339 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:08,400 reasons, for workman's comp reasons, for compensation reasons and everything, I'm 340 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:13,919 sure that before it comes to us, it can go to the department heads. But I I 341 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:20,480 really think that we should not be having interns come in 342 00:26:17,919 --> 00:26:24,240 and if they're doing work over and above an internship program, find out we're 343 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:29,039 going to get build for all of their labor down the line. 344 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:33,200 Maybe I will check with a few other counties and see what they have for the 345 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:39,200 » I already sent an email out to my administrators. Um I did 346 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,400 I I want to make this very clear. I'm not trying to do away with internship 347 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:48,400 programs. I will do internship program, but there should be some 348 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:52,400 » buties and I'm not taking any any >> I'm not commenting about any specific 349 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,320 department. I did mention the sheriff's department because they are the biggest 350 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:01,520 one to do it. I even even with that department, I think we should have some 351 00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:06,240 type of a guide guidelines. We can't tell the sheriff how to staff and what 352 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:10,480 to do, but we can make sure that the paperwork is filled out, you know, and 353 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:13,679 we have that done properly. >> Yeah, great. 354 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,200 » Would our attorneys have some useful information, too? 355 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:22,559 » Um, with regards to the sheriff's department piece, because we do have 356 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:31,520 some that, um, we've been sending to for schooling. Um, we wanted a an agreement 357 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:34,480 um, set up so that these people that if we're training them, we're paying for 358 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,799 that training. We don't want them to be leaving 359 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:46,000 out the door right away. So, >> um, that is that that's an agreement 360 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:49,360 that um they're they're working on that for us already because they've already 361 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,279 had some other counties do it. That's kind of a separate issue 362 00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:57,520 » than the internship. But we have a deputy at our sheriff's department now 363 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:01,279 who has to pay back the sheriff's department in Monomony County for 364 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:08,480 sending him through Northern Michigan University to to get his uh licensing. 365 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:12,480 » And I think what he told me when he first came here, I think it's about 366 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,320 $5,000 he has to pay back over a period of time. 367 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:16,960 » Mhm. >> So 368 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:21,039 » So that's already been sent to them and that's being worked on right now. So, 369 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,880 » and and that that that's one that I'm sure Tracy is going to work on very 370 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:30,640 closely with the sheriff >> and the under sheriff, but but as far 371 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,760 as, you know, the interns, you know, >> right? 372 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:38,240 » They kind of, you know, intertwine, but they're 373 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:44,159 they're two separate issues. But, >> you know, it it seems like every every 374 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:48,720 time the courts make a ruling about something or make a change, we we've got 375 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,200 to do our best to try to keep up to make sure that we're following those rules. 376 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:54,880 And that's that's >> before you step in the big hole. 377 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:59,200 » That that's that's all this amounts to. It's not, you know, it's not a shot at 378 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:05,919 anybody at all. It's just that we need to keep up with what's going on. 379 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:14,159 » Great. Anybody else? Um, I do have something in addition. Um, 380 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:19,600 we received bids um for the stairs just outside the door from Chris. Was it 381 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:25,760 yesterday or the day before? I sent them off to the building and grounds 382 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:33,200 committee to review. Um, and we received um one of those back. Um there are three 383 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:39,840 bids and the one is actually um the lowest bid is actually a local local 384 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:43,200 company. So um we with the approval of the building and grounds committee um 385 00:29:41,679 --> 00:29:46,640 we'll be bringing that back to the next board meeting if they want to move 386 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,679 forward with that. >> It it it's a fabricated system. 387 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:56,159 » Um did you have a chance to look at that? 388 00:29:52,559 --> 00:30:01,840 » Yeah. So that that was a good um good idea. Paul suggested triberry because 389 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:07,360 they're significantly lower than the other two quotes we got cuz those are 390 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:14,399 out of state guys that are just kind of you know they're just expensive. But um 391 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:18,880 yeah, Triberry gave us a good price for it and a couple options with the the 392 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:24,320 treads and so >> I mean at my first review I mean 393 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:26,320 » and they do they do great work. So >> yeah, they just look like they're the 394 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:31,200 way to go. >> Is it a metal system of some type? 395 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:36,080 » Yeah, stainless. I think it's stainless uh frame and then the treads are an 396 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:41,279 option. I mean, we have to pick what tread we want, galvanized or aluminum or 397 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:45,919 stainless, but um >> I I I don't know who came up with the 398 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,640 idea of doing a fabricated system like that. 399 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,159 » Bed Paul. >> Is that Paul? 400 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:58,240 » Well, Chris was talking to some other companies already. 401 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:03,600 » Yeah. And then when um he brought it up to them, Paul Paul mentioned 402 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:07,200 » um the local company to check with them. So, yeah. 403 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:10,880 That that that was a nice option. >> Yep. Great idea. 404 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:15,200 » You you can't beat Jim Leaport. >> I'll say it right now. He is as good as 405 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:19,279 any in this business. >> So I will be if 406 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,120 » if they are with their approval, I'll be bringing that. 407 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:26,960 » I don't I don't know about the fabricated steel ones, but I can tell 408 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:32,080 you arways stairways, I love selling those. 409 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:35,880 I I did one arch stairway in our arway stairway that was $38,000 410 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,960 and that was 20 years ago. >> Oh, good. 411 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120 » So, >> okay. 412 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:48,080 » Okay. >> Um, all right. Moving on. Any department 413 00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:52,559 head reports? Hearing none. Uh, any public comment at 414 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:57,840 this time for finance and administration committee? 415 00:31:55,279 --> 00:32:05,360 Hearing none, we will adjourn the finance and administration committee and 416 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:08,480 start the regular meeting at 11:30. >> Did you time in on that? 417 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,000 » I didn't. No. >> Yeah, that's 418 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,679 » Well, I bet you still beat the road. >> That's true. the contract. You know