[0:06] Heavenly Father we thank you for the [0:07] abundant grace and mercy that you've [0:09] shown towards us by blessing us to come [0:10] together to conduct the city's business [0:12] and father even though we may come as we [0:14] come together let us come together in [0:15] the spirit of unity even though we may [0:17] disagree let us not disengage or [0:19] disrespect one another but to continue [0:20] to act as brothers and sisters remember [0:22] our brothers and sisters who are serving [0:24] in the in the armed forces at home and [0:26] abroad and once again watch over our [0:28] First Responders and remind their [0:30] families every time their loved one [0:31] leaves home you are watching over them [0:33] as they watch over us we're so careful [0:35] to give you the praise the honor and the [0:36] glory and thank you for blessing us to [0:38] live in this beautiful city that we call [0:39] aoy amen amen I pledge Ali to the flag of the [0:45] United States of America and to the [0:48] Republic for which it stands one nation [0:51] under God indivisible liy and justice [0:55] for all [1:00] commissioner Kennedy here commissioner [1:02] Wilson here Mayor Johnson here [1:04] commissioner fer here commissioner [1:06] Oliver [1:10] here okay I'm going to have a u pres uh [1:14] Proclamation here I need to read for the [1:17] uh Hispanic Heritage Month whereas each [1:21] year American observe National Hispanic [1:23] Heritage Month by celebrating the [1:25] history culture and traditions of people [1:28] whose ancestry can be TR TR to Spain [1:30] Mexico Central America South America and [1:33] the Caribbean islands and whereas this [1:35] observance celebrates the achievements [1:38] of Hispanic Americans in the Arts [1:40] education entertainment government [1:43] history law literature medicine the [1:45] military music politics science and [1:48] other endeavors and whereas the United [1:50] States first observed what was in [1:52] National Hispanic heritage week in [1:55] 1968 under President Lyon Johnson [1:58] calling upon public officials Educators [2:01] Librarians and all of the people of the [2:03] United States to observe this time with [2:06] ceremonies activities and programs and [2:09] whereas Hispanic make up [2:12] 29.8% of the city of oo's population [2:15] have enriched and shaped our community [2:18] for generations and whereas Hispanics [2:21] continue to make significant and diverse [2:24] contributions to this culture [2:26] educational economic and political [2:29] vitality of the city of okoy now [2:31] therefore be it resolved the city okoy [2:34] city commission does hereby Proclaim [2:36] September 15th through October 15 2024 [2:40] as the Hispanic Heritage Month and [2:43] encourage all residents to honor the [2:44] rich diversity of the Hispanic community [2:46] and celebrate the many ways they [2:48] contribute to our nation and [2:51] Society I read this in celebration [2:53] spanic heritage month we have 20 Flags [2:56] displayed throughout City Hall and here [2:58] on the dice the flags represent the [3:01] communities with roots in 20 Latin [3:03] American countries and territories as [3:05] mentioned in the proclamation Hispanic [3:08] Heritage Month is celebrated September [3:11] the 15th through October the 15th we'd [3:13] like to invite everyone to come out to [3:16] our Hispanic heritage celebration on [3:18] Thursday October the 3rd from 5:00 p.m. [3:21] to 9:00 p.m. at Bill Breeze Park there [3:24] will be Latin music food trucks ooy [3:27] Community Market vendors giveaways [3:29] prizes and free salsa dance lessons make [3:33] sure you're ready for [3:36] that all [3:37] right um [3:41] now I have a um staff [3:46] reports none at this time is anybody [3:49] here to pick up the U Hispanic one or [3:51] you just going to put it on City [3:54] Hall we can U prominently display it in [3:57] City Hall yeah okay all right it'll be [4:00] displayed in City [4:02] Hall all right I have U Miss [4:07] hatway [4:11] huh I'm I've got that y'all I'm going [4:16] have to put y'all in rep a man that's [4:19] coming at a certain point we're going [4:20] put a [4:21] plastic that's coming at a certain point [4:23] in the meeting okay all right does it [4:26] show up there Marilyn hadway [4:30] well we want to thank the city of okoy [4:32] and the Commissioners and mayor for [4:34] allowing us to come and present to you [4:35] tonight we're very excited West Orange [4:38] Habitat for Humanity is Alive and Well [4:40] in the West Orange Community and we have [4:41] a proposal for you this evening just to [4:44] make you think that we are very special [4:46] we brought two very special people with [4:48] us who will be sharing in a two-minute [4:49] presentation with me that is our [4:51] President Joe barsh and also our [4:54] director of homeowner Services Gail [4:56] Fleming we want to build a partnership [4:58] to build a community here in okoy oh boy [5:03] okay I went too far [5:06] sorry and now where is she she is going [5:12] to she is going to turn this on [5:15] somehow and make it wrong [5:26] quickly no matter who we are or where we [5:30] come from we all deserve to have a [5:33] decent life we deserve to feel strength [5:36] and stability day after day we deserve [5:41] to know we have the power to take care [5:43] of ourselves and build our own Futures [5:47] at Habitat for Humanity this is what [5:50] unit [5:52] us through shelter we Empower because [5:57] you me we we're all humans and every [6:02] single one of us deserves a fair [6:06] shot donate or volunteer [6:17] today [6:20] oh we are or where we come strength and [6:24] stability care of ourselves and what US [6:35] technology is not my forte Habitat for [6:38] Humanity has four companies in one we [6:39] are a construction company we are a [6:41] restore if you haven't visited us we're [6:43] right up here on West Colonial Drive [6:44] we're also a [6:45] nonprofit and finally we are a very [6:49] wonderful organization to get involved [6:51] with and we hope you do that um just to [6:54] share two minutes each with you on [6:57] things that we do and to set us up for [7:00] the item we came for tonight I'd like to [7:03] introduce Joe barsh our president of our [7:09] board thank you okoi for having us [7:11] tonight I get to wear a different hat [7:14] tonight um which button am I click it um [7:19] so a little bit about habitat we have [7:21] built over 50 homes in the West Orange [7:23] Community in in our County um we have [7:26] four homes currently under construction [7:28] and we have seven more planned [7:31] next I don't know how you go to the next [7:34] page okay there we go all right so um [7:37] habitat builds F families they build [7:40] they have um benefits for home ownership [7:43] so so we always say when we build a home [7:46] we're we're building more than just a [7:47] home um the families they get better [7:49] test scores they have higher rate of [7:52] high school and college attendance [7:53] especially for the children's and these [7:55] lowincome homeowners um we promote Civic [7:58] and social l engagement um education and [8:01] empowerment Financial Security and [8:03] future planning um they have physical [8:06] and mental health are improved um with [8:08] decent affordable housing affordable um [8:12] sustainable homes reduce energy [8:14] consumption uh diminishing the energy [8:16] burden for our lowincome housing our [8:18] homes are we share financial literacy [8:22] community and generational [8:25] wealth habitat we build communities uh [8:28] westr habitat for [8:30] um we have corporate and individual [8:31] volunteers that are engaged we have [8:34] donors who participate with grants gifts [8:37] funding our mission and our ministry M [8:40] municipalities and other Partners Fund [8:42] our work improving residents lives [8:45] construction Partners um they donate [8:47] their equipment their material their [8:49] supplies job programs educate and [8:52] provide jobs for our low U Middle inome [8:55] residents and we do a neighborhood [8:57] revalorization where we create residents [8:59] and neighborhood [9:02] Pride all right thank [9:07] you good evening and thank you for [9:09] having us here tonight I'm Gail Fleming [9:11] I'm the director of homeowner services [9:12] and we're here to propose bringing our [9:15] neighborhood revitalization program to [9:18] aoi um the purpose and vision of [9:21] neighborhood revitalization is that [9:23] everyone will have a decent place to [9:24] live the entire Community can be [9:26] uplifted and involved and we provide an [9:28] array of services to homeowners to [9:30] improve their quality of life uh it also [9:33] Fosters the shared sense of ownership [9:35] and social cohesion what we do in our [9:38] neighborhood revitalization program is [9:40] provide exterior Home Improvements and [9:42] minor critical repair to homes for West [9:45] Orange County residents um which builds [9:48] neighborhoods community and a sense of [9:50] Pride for [9:52] homeowners so we have done over 50 [9:54] houses in West Orange County in the last [9:56] 3 to four years and you can see some of [9:58] the before and after [10:02] pictures and so what we're proposing [10:04] this evening is bringing that program [10:06] here to aoi we want to have your help in [10:10] identifying a neighborhood liaison [10:12] somebody who's living in the [10:13] neighborhood who knows the residents in [10:16] that neighborhood and can help us [10:17] identify the resident homes for [10:21] revitalization um they must be a h they [10:23] must be a homeowner resident and they're [10:26] willing to partner with us the resident [10:29] sign a partnership agreement and [10:31] includes a $100 administration fee and [10:34] we ask every homeowner to provide us [10:37] with two of two volunteers that will [10:40] help and work with our volunteers to [10:43] revitalize that home and what we're [10:46] asking from the city is to participate [10:48] in the funding of this program we also [10:51] do surveys after the after we Revitalize [10:54] each home and we would return those [10:55] surveys back to the [10:58] city so our goal with this program in [11:01] aoi is to do 10 homes between January of [11:04] 2025 and January of [11:06] 2026 we have our construction team [11:09] approve each resident home candidate and [11:11] they they inspect the home to make sure [11:13] that it's something that we can do uh we [11:16] provide all the Material supplies [11:18] equipment and volunteers and we usually [11:20] have 10 to 20 volunteers on a site in [11:22] one day and the home is done in one day [11:26] we pressure wash the house do exterior [11:29] minor critical repair exterior and trim [11:32] painting front yard cleanup Landscaping [11:35] of the front yard and then each resident [11:38] each home resident uh receives a lawn [11:42] and Home maintenance kit which includes [11:44] a hose a rake and a shovel and so our [11:48] volunteers come out for one day and they [11:50] get all of this done and we do work with [11:54] the homeowners they pick their paint [11:55] colors they pick what kind of plants [11:57] they want in their yard [12:04] well nobody wants to ask for the money [12:06] but I certainly don't mind the total [12:08] cost of the program to revitalize 10 [12:10] homes is [12:11] $20,000 habitat's investment would be [12:13] $1,500 per home which is 15,000 and [12:16] we're asking for an investment of the [12:17] city of okoy of $5,000 which would be [12:21] $500 per home of those 10 [12:25] homes are there any questions [12:29] all right you need the answer for that [12:30] now t i we can wait anybody anybody got [12:34] any [12:35] comments I I [12:37] um honestly I don't have a problem with [12:40] that I think we we've got a little money [12:42] i' like to say the contingency fund see [12:44] if we can do [12:46] the you have you have adequate funding [12:49] in the contingency fund balance I think [12:51] it's a pretty good thing we don't have [12:52] any land right now we met and talked [12:54] with you and I did and Mike that we [12:57] don't have any property but I think [12:59] that's a good alternative to do some I [13:02] know the county used to do some of that [13:03] a long time ago here but I think $5,000 [13:06] would be a good investment from our city [13:09] towards that and I would like to see I [13:11] can't make the Motions you well do we [13:13] have first of all are we talking the 23 [13:16] 24 budget that we are we looking what's [13:19] a we're right in between budgets [13:21] tomorrow night is our budget hearing for [13:22] next year so I would recommend that [13:25] you authorize me to take it from the [13:27] current years's contingent see [13:30] $55,000 and we can we can go ahead and [13:33] do that we have 55,000 remaining okay [13:37] yep all right that's a good program I [13:40] habitat human is a wonderful program I [13:42] I'm sorry you make I will for gon say [13:46] something it's not on the agenda can we [13:48] make a motion City attorney make a [13:52] motion you can make a motion um I think [13:55] because it's a proposition if if any [13:57] members of the community would like to [13:58] comment they should have that [13:59] opportunity to do [14:01] so okay I think you wanted to say [14:03] something before the only thing I wanted [14:05] to say is we are really expanding [14:07] habitat West Orange is really really [14:10] expanding tremendously and what our hope [14:12] is is that once we get in and start [14:14] working in the community we will need [14:16] for the city commission or someone on [14:18] the city commission to identify a [14:20] liaison in that neighborhood who's a [14:22] resident who can identify homes that [14:24] might need to be um revitalized but once [14:28] you find that person we will work with [14:30] that liaison to identify those homes and [14:33] get them into the program and our hope [14:35] is that even though you may not have [14:36] land now we're hoping that with other [14:39] things that we've got in the works that [14:40] we can come and begin to um do some home [14:43] construction in the city of okoy we [14:46] would really really like to do that so [14:47] thank you so much for your attention and [14:49] your motion I appreciate it all right we [14:52] need a second you make the motion I'll [14:55] make the motion but did you need ask you [14:56] say we have to ask I'll second would you [14:58] okay I'm just I didn't want to make a [14:59] motion before you asked you had asked a [15:02] question I'll make a motion that's fine [15:04] make a motion we can have discussion [15:06] $5,000 yes make you second the motion [15:10] commissioner Wilson made made the motion [15:13] and commissioner Kenedy second a motion [15:15] anybody in the public have any comments [15:16] towards that Mr [15:19] har I'm doing it this way that's fine I [15:23] just follow I'm going have to move over [15:25] one of yall Che [15:29] go ahead I know I'm getting over a that [15:33] over uh agis art art par Cory Florida is [15:37] my understanding that's also for the [15:39] revitalization of her current homework [15:40] correct yes and I think that's a great [15:42] idea because we have a lot of people my [15:44] father has some rental homes and over [15:45] the years they deteriorate with the cost [15:48] of things now it's nearly impossible for [15:50] a person on a fixed income to try to [15:51] revitalize that home what I hate to see [15:53] is somewhere live here 30 40 Years of [15:56] their life get into their senior years [15:57] and they can't afford to fix their house [15:59] so that alone to me is worth $5,000 you [16:02] know so I I think it's a great idea it's a way to for the city to show they [16:06] do care about the residents I've had a [16:08] lot of friends try to move to a court [16:09] but the cost was just too high so if [16:10] anything else we need ought to take care [16:12] of the folks that have lived here 30 40 [16:13] years been an active part of our society [16:15] pretty much built this city that we now [16:17] inherited so I think it's a great idea [16:18] thank you sir thank you Mr [16:20] har All Right anybody else have any [16:23] comments on it before we [16:24] vote all right let's vote [16:33] we don't have the questions go to the we [16:35] voted all right you want do this again [16:38] there you [16:45] go keeps popping up [16:47] questions that thing's getting [16:56] smart no [16:59] may I pushed that [17:03] button third time do it [17:07] again okay that's AR 5,000 there you go [17:12] thank you very much we appreciate it [17:13] thank you very much for being [17:18] here [17:20] okay see [17:23] here love comments I don't have any I [17:27] have one gentleman here but that's going [17:29] to be on item 15 no [17:32] moratorium that'll be a little later [17:35] whoever Mr uh Doug G gber that'll be it [17:40] a little later all right okay down to [17:44] consider [17:46] agenda is that okay with [17:50] yall you're giving us a [17:52] heart consent agenda anybody need a [17:57] motion I make a motion motion made by [18:01] commissioner Oliver do I hear a [18:03] second I'll second it second it by [18:05] commissioner first any more comments no [18:07] more comments let's vote [18:12] maybe motion carries unan thank you all [18:16] right now I want to make this [18:19] announcement item number 15 will be [18:23] brought back October the 1st it's [18:25] getting brought taken away tonight it [18:28] moves to a later date October the 1st so [18:31] we'll have that back here on October the [18:33] 1st and everybody hear that yes that [18:36] that's homeown studi special exception [18:38] right number item number 15 on the [18:41] agenda all right now first reading of [18:45] ordinances number [18:47] 12 first reading of ordinance amending [18:50] Article 2 or 11 whatever you want to [18:52] chapter 51 of the code of ordinances [18:54] creating local technical amendments to [18:56] the Florida building code [18:59] would you like me to proceed yes sir an [19:01] ordinance of the city of aoi Florida [19:03] amending Article 2 chapter 51 of the [19:05] city of aoi code of ordinances creating [19:08] local technical amendments to the fora [19:10] building code creating a new section [19:12] 51-20 requiring masonry block metal or [19:15] concrete exterior and interior [19:17] loadbearing walls in certain structures [19:19] providing for separability providing for [19:21] codification providing for an effective [19:23] date all right this will be back on um [19:27] did you say the date 1 September the 1st [19:30] for the October 1st October October the [19:33] 1st for the uh second reading anybody [19:36] with public comments can make it then [19:38] all right number 13 first read of [19:40] ordinances for shops on the bluff small [19:43] scale comprehensive plan future land use [19:45] map Amendment and resoning an ordinance [19:48] of the city of aoi Florida amending the [19:50] city of aoi comprehensive plan is [19:51] adopted in 1991 as amended amending the [19:54] future land use map the EO comprehensive [19:56] plan to change the future land use map [19:59] designation from low density residential [20:01] to commercial for certain real [20:03] properties containing approximately 4.29 [20:05] Acres located on the north side of [20:08] claron aoi road beginning approximately [20:10] 400 feet east of the North Clark Road at [20:13] a clar cono Road intersection providing [20:17] for and authorizing the revision of the [20:19] official City feature land use map [20:21] prevailing in the event of any [20:22] inconsistency providing for severability [20:25] and providing for an effective date this [20:27] also will be back back on October the [20:29] 1st for the second [20:31] reading and then you can have your [20:33] comments for the public and I also need [20:34] to read the resing ordinance that's also [20:36] with item number 13 an ordinance of the [20:39] city of aoi Florida changing the zoning [20:41] classification from one- I'm sorry r-1aa [20:45] single family dwelling District to PUD [20:47] plan unit development District on [20:49] certain real properties containing [20:50] approximately 4.29 Acres located on the [20:53] north side of clar Kono COI Road [20:55] beginning approximately 400 ft east of [20:57] the North Clark red at claricon aoi Road [20:59] intersection finding said zoning to be [21:02] consistent with the aoi comprehensive [21:03] plan providing for and authorizing the [21:06] revision of the official City zoning map [21:08] prevailing in the event of any [21:10] inconsistency providing for separability [21:12] and providing for an effective date all [21:14] right as we said it will be back on [21:16] October the 1st for the second reading [21:18] in public comments all right we're going [21:20] to go down to the second reading of [21:21] ordinances public hearing number 14 [21:23] second reading of ordinance for a [21:25] temporary six Monon moratorium on the [21:28] process processing and consideration of [21:30] development approvals should I proceed [21:33] yes sir an ordinance of the city of aoi [21:35] Florida implementing a moratorium [21:37] prohibiting the processing and [21:39] consideration of certain comprehensive [21:41] plan text and map amendments resoning [21:44] special exceptions inight plan and [21:45] subdivision Plan reviews and approvals [21:48] to allow the Planning and Zoning [21:49] division time to thoroughly review study [21:52] and prepare amendments to the city of [21:54] aoi comprehensive plan and the City of [21:55] aoi Land Development code providing for [21:57] separability in providing an effective [22:00] date all right Mr rer thank you Mayor [22:02] Mike Rumer assist city manager I'm sorry [22:06] acting assist thank you the ordinance [22:09] before you tonight is Will facilitate a [22:11] six-month temporary moratorium on the [22:14] processing of rezonings annexations [22:18] subdivision and site plans this [22:20] ordinance does not affect existing [22:23] building permits so for the four [22:25] residential subdivisions we have being [22:27] built they can still build their their [22:28] homes it will not affect any building [22:30] permit uh submitt uh this ordinance will [22:34] provide City staff a temporary pause to [22:37] be able to focus on a major rewrite to [22:41] both the Land Development code and the [22:44] comprehensive plan of the city of aoi [22:47] and uh this ordinance have had some [22:50] questions projects that are in the [22:53] process such as the item on the agenda [22:56] that you did a first reading shops of [22:57] the bluff those items that are in [22:59] process in review don't have to stop [23:01] with the moratorium it would be any next [23:04] step with permitting after that a site [23:08] plan permit um or a revision to an [23:11] approved PD if we approve a plan unit [23:14] development uh to next week and if they [23:17] wanted to come back and amend it that [23:18] would they would we would not be able to [23:20] receive that application and so again uh [23:22] the city's under major rewrite of the [23:24] Land Development code and the [23:25] comprehensive plan uh we are working [23:28] hard to provide documents to present to [23:30] you that will display the vision that [23:33] this commission has expressed during [23:35] some of the more recent items in the [23:37] past couple years uh citizen comments uh [23:41] this the items comments we received in [23:42] our downtown Workshop the vision of the [23:46] new city manager and look forward to [23:48] Bringing these items to you at a later [23:50] date and I'll entertain any questions [23:52] mayor thank you right before I've vote [23:54] in the public hearing does anybody [23:55] commission want to speak to it before [23:58] all right I'll open the public hearing I [24:01] have one citizen here Mr Mr de come on [24:14] day good evening fellow citizens [24:17] Commissioners my name is Doug gomber I'm [24:20] a resident of okoi for 10 years I live [24:22] at 405 Misty Meadow Drive in the white [24:25] Hill Homeowner [24:26] Association I've been involved in Orange [24:28] County politics and Orange County growth [24:30] management since I've moved here in [24:32] 1982 I was involved in the Orange County [24:35] growth management under former mayor [24:37] Glenda hood and was awarded uh several [24:40] Awards nationally for the for that piece [24:42] of legislation that we passed and if you [24:45] look at the city of Orlando it's done [24:46] very well my question here and I'm I'm smart enough to have been in Florida [24:51] for 42 years I understand Florida [24:53] politics and I can read the tea leaves I [24:55] know I'm not going to win this but I'm [24:56] probably the only one in this room [24:58] that's against this moratorium and let [25:00] me tell you why I'm a insurance agent I [25:03] deal with large corporations that do [25:05] building that are land owners [25:08] restorators uh individual entrepreneurs [25:11] and people that build manufacturing [25:13] facilities the central Florida area is [25:16] lucky to be in a growth area we have [25:18] people moving here regardless of we we [25:20] couldn't do anything wrong to prevent [25:21] people from coming here and there's [25:23] going to be growth in this [25:25] area the growth that an area like a KO [25:29] or Winter Park or Orlando or oovo or [25:32] anything has is based on one thing [25:34] that's progress and you know what [25:36] progress means it's momentum it's [25:39] momentum that builds progress if you put [25:41] a six-month moratorium on people coming [25:44] down here and you're saying you're going [25:45] to close for business you're going to [25:47] put yourself at least 12 months behind [25:49] the eightball and I'll tell you why [25:51] nobody's going to be sitting there the [25:53] first day after this six month of [25:54] moratorium waiting to build people or bu [25:57] build things in a COI it's going to take [25:58] a while for you to rebuild back up so [26:01] it's more than just a six-month stoppage [26:02] and work that you're asking for and [26:05] people in the town that build and their [26:07] and the doers and the goers and the [26:08] thinkers they're going to look at a CO [26:10] and say what the heck is going on out [26:12] there that they have to totally stop for [26:14] six months and I just don't understand [26:17] why that's what's that's got to happen [26:19] we should be more careful about what we [26:20] allow in the area if people are upset [26:22] about the amount of building and the and [26:24] the uh and the growth that we've got [26:26] let's talk about that but the tell [26:28] people in the perception that you have [26:30] in the Tri County Area that says hey [26:32] ovo's got to put a break on this because [26:34] they can't handle this it's a perception [26:36] thing to people saying a CO's close for [26:38] business and I'm here to tell you that [26:40] that's what my clients think and I've [26:42] got over a couple hundred I work for the [26:44] largest Insurance Brokerage in the State [26:46] of Florida and I have hundreds of [26:48] clients that do all this work and when [26:49] you talk to them about a KO they're not [26:51] in the top three they're not even the [26:53] top five they're not in the top seven of [26:55] places where people want to come do [26:57] business and stuff like this doesn't [26:59] help so I know this is going to pass I [27:01] get that but I want you guys to think [27:03] about this before you go ahead and do it [27:05] think of the ramifications down the road [27:08] of what you're going to vote on tonight [27:10] and my second point is this if we're the [27:12] only one doing this why isn't ID why [27:15] isn't Winter Park why isn't matland why [27:17] aren't Apopka why aren't they shutting down is there something [27:21] different about the way they run their [27:22] staff in the way we run our staff that [27:25] we can't do these kind of changes on the [27:26] Fly while we're doing all the other [27:28] things we're doing I don't understand [27:30] that so Mr rer I'd like you to address [27:33] that for me because I don't understand [27:35] why it takes a stoppage to do something [27:37] that should be part of everything you do [27:40] mayor I'd like to address that if please [27:43] commission you you th Mr yes sir okay um [27:47] Mr gomber just made a lucid well [27:51] articulated argument and I agree with [27:54] almost everything he said with the [27:56] exception of the last part okay um the [28:02] community has spoken numerous times over [28:05] the years we've had public participation [28:07] events we have current projects and we [28:10] hear the same type of thing our code [28:12] does not create the types of places of [28:15] some of the places you mentioned I know [28:17] Ovito has form-based standards in their [28:19] code and I know several of the other [28:22] Winter Park Winter Garden all the [28:24] character towns have form-based Land [28:27] Development code elements okay aoy is [28:30] very progrowth right now but we want to [28:33] manage it and create places that have [28:36] better connectivity that have better [28:38] Street Scapes that are more urban in [28:40] function and form and we feel very [28:44] confident that the market is still going [28:46] to respond well we actually have a huge [28:49] uh baseball entity that's coming in that [28:51] the commission's approved um part of [28:54] this is in relation to that project [28:56] because of all the economic press [28:58] pressure that's going to come um and our [29:00] citizens and our commission has been [29:02] very clear to us as far as wanting to [29:04] see um an urban style commercial [29:07] building with wide Street wide walks um [29:11] eating public dining out on the sidewalk [29:14] um more like you would see in a [29:16] traditional downtown versus two rows of [29:19] parking a landscape buffer and a strip [29:21] center and so this is part of that [29:25] effort um we feel like there's this [29:27] slight loss because the Sports Complex [29:30] is going through a large scale comp plan [29:32] Amendment which should transmit in [29:34] October um but the one thing that did [29:38] not change throughout covid was travel [29:41] Sports and travel Sports became its own [29:44] market now we've done a lot of work with [29:47] this particular developer and they are [29:52] projecting the population of this city [29:54] is going to increase on weekends when [29:56] they're having tournaments 5 to8 8,000 [29:58] people and that's going to create a [30:01] tremendous amount of economic pressure [30:03] and we want to be able to create those [30:04] character type places instead of being [30:07] inundated with Garden Apartments and um [30:12] retail strip centers not saying those [30:14] are bad uses they all have a place but [30:16] one of the things that our communities [30:18] been very clear on over the years and [30:20] all the master planning we've done has [30:22] been we want more urban walkable places [30:25] where we can have multiple unplanned [30:27] exchanges those types of things and what [30:29] our code does currently does not create [30:32] that and and so I I hate it um I hate [30:36] having to press the pause button but I [30:38] think we're going to be [30:40] okay well Mr shads I agree with you I [30:43] mean you and I are on the same page with [30:44] a vision it's just the way of getting [30:46] there we disagree on I can respect that [30:50] thank you [30:51] sir all right I have one more uh Kelly [30:54] Beck [31:01] good evening my name is Kelly Beck I'm [31:03] the HOA president for greens at Forest [31:05] Lake uh representing about 400 residents [31:09] here in okoi in 200 homes I'm here to [31:12] speak in support of the moratorium I've [31:13] spoken in front of this board and [31:15] planning and zoning numerous times [31:17] regarding concerns about how development [31:20] takes place in our community um I'm [31:22] pretty sure Mr Rumer dreads when he sees [31:24] my name pop up in his inbox at this [31:26] point okoi has so much potential and we [31:30] are growing tremendously and we don't [31:31] want to slow that growth but we also [31:33] need to do so responsibly we need to do [31:36] so in a way that enhances the way of [31:38] life for those who live here who have [31:40] invested in this community through their [31:42] property purchases and through their [31:44] businesses um one of the number one [31:46] pieces of feedback that our community [31:48] and others I've spoken with have gotten [31:50] when we ask why is a certain thing being [31:53] allowed to happen why are they allowed [31:55] to build here why are they being allowed [31:56] to build the way they are in a way that [31:59] um referencing the Magnolia Reserve [32:00] Community because I've been up here [32:02] several times about that it's because [32:04] there's nothing in the Land Development [32:05] code to stop it there's nothing that [32:08] holds them to a standard of when these [32:10] developers come in and pick up big plots [32:13] of land and want to put in this massive [32:15] Community there's not a standard that [32:16] says well we need to have these types of [32:19] amenities we need to have this much [32:20] space other than obviously for water and [32:23] you know water flow but the bottom line [32:26] is we don't have well develop standards [32:28] to hold developers to to hold businesses [32:31] to in order to make sure that what's [32:34] coming into our community is adding [32:36] value and enhancing the way of life for [32:38] those who live here so I fully support [32:40] this I absolutely if there are City [32:43] boards where you need volunteers to [32:44] weigh in I will absolutely be there this [32:47] is I think a great step in the right [32:49] direction to making sure we're setting [32:50] okoi up for success in the future thank [32:53] you thank [32:55] you all right nobody else has any public [32:58] comments on that [33:00] issue all right we'll close it I'm going [33:01] to bring it back up to D anybody else [33:03] have any comments on [33:06] what [33:08] okay um I'm going to vote to support the [33:13] moratorium um I was on Planning and [33:17] Zoning I've seen the problems um growth [33:22] is good but growth that exceeds [33:26] everyone's expectations and the [33:28] imagination of the Land Development code [33:30] is written is unmanaged unbalanced [33:34] growth and we have been asked repeatedly [33:38] I've asked [33:39] repeatedly for the concerns of the [33:42] residents for the people who have lived [33:44] in aoi for years to be [33:46] prioritized in our budget in our plans [33:49] in our code and um that's what we're [33:53] doing this is the the fruit from that [33:57] process [33:58] and um 6 months in development is [34:03] nothing um really um that's just a deep [34:09] breath and um I support this fully I [34:13] think it's wonderful I think staff has [34:16] done a wonderful job so far and uh I [34:19] think characterizing it as a you know a [34:22] CO can't walk and chew gum at the same [34:24] time paraphrasing is a mistake this is [34:27] going to be great for our city this is [34:30] going to help us grow in a way that [34:32] maintains the character of our city and [34:35] that is important to the people who live [34:37] here to the majority of the people who [34:38] live here thank you thank you anybody [34:40] else I [34:42] would I agree with everyone I know I [34:45] spoke to Mr gber before I agree with him [34:48] I agree with Miss Beck I agree with Mr [34:50] Shadrick that um but it looks like I I [34:53] will agree I'm going to vote Yes on it [34:56] um I feel as though that after we do [34:59] this I think what we need to do is [35:01] remember that we can't wait for another [35:03] moratorium if there's something that [35:04] needs to be changed within the Land [35:06] Development code we need to adjust it at [35:08] that point it's really too bad that [35:10] we've waited to the point where we have [35:11] to shut down for six months and we [35:14] should be able to I would hope after [35:16] this that we will address issues as they [35:19] come up and not have to shut down again [35:22] we don't have a lot of land left well at [35:24] least some districts don't have a lot of [35:26] land left and again we have to be very [35:29] diligent in our efforts to make sure [35:31] that that's used um in the best interest [35:34] of our residents but I also feel as [35:36] though that i' hate to see this happen [35:38] again I'd like to see us adjust as we go [35:41] along thank you anybody else [35:45] so our Land Development code is [35:47] something that we've we've actually [35:49] needed to uh revise for some time now um [35:53] I go back the past five years and have [35:55] discussions with uh city manager [35:58] assistant city manager about Land [36:00] Development and our code and and the [36:01] different things that the challenges [36:03] that we face as we kept moving forward [36:05] and as we kept growing at some point we [36:07] had to figure out there has to be a [36:09] pause you got to pause somewhere because [36:12] when you you had so many different uh [36:14] moving parts to what needs to be done [36:16] and to home them all together it it's [36:18] kind of hard to continue to grow and [36:21] keep moving and bring everything in [36:22] together one time and pause for a second [36:25] to look at this code and Let's do let's [36:27] make some the proper adjustments to it [36:30] so uh I I do support this [36:34] because I look at from a different [36:36] perspective we're we're we're we're [36:38] growing by Leaps and Bounds one of the [36:41] issues that that a lot of us that live [36:43] in this city that that we run into is [36:45] issues of our infrastructure and our [36:47] traffic this may give us an opportunity [36:49] to continue with those those projects [36:52] that will allow us to address [36:53] infrastructure while we slow down uh um [36:56] our building so folks can get in and out [36:59] of the city again we do live in that dut [37:01] hole and uh we have so many uh thars [37:03] through our city and I think this is a [37:05] great opportunity for us to uh to step [37:08] back and say hey let's focus on uh some [37:11] of these Street repairs we need and how [37:13] to get people in and out of uh our city [37:15] uh [37:18] adequately our staff does a magnificent [37:21] job in the planning and development and [37:25] all the things that are involved in that [37:28] and if they're asking for a little [37:30] support right now a little pause to give [37:33] them uh a chance to catch up and get [37:36] ahead of the uh curve I'm all for that I [37:40] support the staff and their [37:42] recommendations and I think this [37:44] moratorium is uh more than necessary to [37:47] give them that [37:50] break well I I'm also going to vote for [37:53] it but I will tell you some of the [37:55] problems is when in other projects that [37:57] was just was on the agenda I think at [38:00] the plan zon and maybe it was one of the [38:02] ones got pulled or not is I have [38:04] probably got a maybe 100 emails [38:08] pertaining to uh the um other project we [38:12] were talking about the and what some of [38:15] the stuff they said in that in in those [38:17] emails kind of irks me but I get irked [38:20] about other things but they they made [38:23] comments to me and and I'm glad they [38:25] send send letter but please [38:27] when you when you want to answer things [38:29] and ask things ask it in a general [38:31] little Kinder way it's like we're I hate [38:34] to say this word but it was kind of like [38:36] saying we didn't know what we were doing [38:37] maybe some people think that but when the when the developer comes in [38:42] here and our code says that we got to [38:44] look at it we got to we got to look at [38:46] it when they bring it here so understand [38:48] that don't sitting there telling me on a [38:50] on an email that I don't you know I [38:52] don't care about what ooy is somebody's [38:53] crazy I've been living here all my life [38:55] I know what I want to see and we've [38:57] tried to to do that in the last 5 years [38:59] seven or eight years we're trying to [39:00] move it in the right direction but when [39:02] you send those emails [39:04] out that's not a good thing to me it's a [39:07] good thing to send an email out and ask [39:09] us to look at it and that's what we're [39:10] trying to do tonight but when you send [39:13] those emails out sarcastically saying [39:15] that about what we're doing here come up [39:17] here and sit down and see what the state [39:19] law says or what the the things tell you can do and you can't do you can't [39:23] just say no we're not going to listen to [39:25] you but we can turn you down then then [39:27] we take the risk of getting sued but [39:30] that's part of what our job is so that's [39:32] why I'm telling you I I don't have a [39:34] problem I think I had a couple hundred a [39:36] week or two before that for something [39:37] else and you're talking about those 3 [39:39] 400 people up there tell them whoever [39:41] writes that letter for them because they [39:42] all send the same letter whoever wrote [39:45] the letter I don't so who it is but they [39:48] wrote the same thing not to me if I'm [39:52] going to write a complaint I'm going to do my complaint I [39:55] don't want somebody else writing my [39:57] complaint BL for me so just to let you [39:59] know we want to do what's right for our [40:02] city and our citizens and that's why [40:04] we're doing a more Tor I understand you [40:06] in business and that's I don't blame you [40:09] but we want to make it where there is [40:10] the right things to come here because we [40:12] still have a few places we want to see [40:15] built on and in the right thing for the [40:18] citizens to have and then like I said [40:20] it's just to me the sarcastic part of [40:23] sending that don't help it out you could [40:25] also Drive somebody away from doing what [40:26] they want to do do I wouldn't do that [40:28] but that's some people would so that's [40:31] what I'm saying this more torm is going [40:32] to be to make a benefit for the city of [40:34] ooy Mayor if I might we do currently [40:37] have about 25 projects still active we [40:41] are going to be bringing projects to the [40:43] Planning and Zoning commission and the [40:45] city commission so this is not for six [40:47] months you don't need to watch the city [40:48] agendas because nothing's happening this [40:50] is just a way to let the development [40:52] Community know they need to be on the [40:54] lookout for upgraded standards and we [40:56] can start discussing projects as we [40:59] start formulating these standards and [41:01] get them teed up and they'll understand [41:03] what they're going to be required to [41:05] meet with regards to architectural and [41:07] site placing site permitting after March [41:10] but we're going to still be bringing a [41:12] lot of projects to you uh from we have [41:16] medical office we have four residential [41:18] communities industrial we have a [41:20] downtown uh uh office we we've got a lot [41:23] going on it's it the work's not going to [41:25] stop with only LDC and comp plan we [41:28] still have other projects to review and [41:30] we will bring those forward thank you [41:33] all right and one other thing about that [41:36] was in those emails is traffic the [41:38] traffic part of what happens here and I [41:40] want everyone of you to take a ride up [41:42] OK po the road head up towards a popka [41:45] and go over there and talk to them at [41:46] their City commission meeting about all [41:48] those buildings and all those apartments [41:50] and all those commercial places they're [41:51] building and guess where they're coming [41:53] through they're not going back to popka [41:55] they're coming through here so that's [41:57] where some of and I got some of the [41:59] comments on those letters about the [42:00] traffic the traffic happens to be coming [42:03] down OK poka road which the county will [42:05] not widen it the [42:08] county nobody else is doing it we're [42:11] trying to get that road ourselves where [42:13] we can Forlan it so we're working on [42:16] that project all right I need a I need a [42:19] motion I'd make a motion to approve for [42:22] the six Monon moratorium all right [42:24] commissioner keny makes the motion for [42:25] the moratorium I hear a second [42:29] I'll second second it by commissioner [42:30] Wilson any more comments no more [42:32] comments let's [42:36] vote motion carries [42:40] unan thank you thank you sir for your [42:43] comments all [42:46] right okay we're down to comments from [42:49] uh [42:52] Commissioners uh commissioner uh [42:55] fer I have no comment commissioner [42:58] Oliver we're still in Hurricane Season [43:00] uh we still got about a month and a half [43:02] hurricane season left so uh pay [43:04] attention to the weather and continue to [43:06] make sure that you are have adequate [43:08] supplies uh because again um the weather [43:12] is very unpredictable and we don't know [43:14] what's going to happen within the next [43:15] month and a half or so so continue to be [43:18] Vision about hurricane [43:21] season uh we have general elections [43:23] coming up uh November 5th uh throughout [43:25] this nation and um if you are not [43:28] registered to vote you can go to [43:29] vote.org uh before October 7th and [43:33] register to vote it takes about two [43:34] minutes so definitely U do your civic [43:37] duty and get out register to vote and [43:40] vote um we have okoy High School [43:44] homecoming parade coming up um will be [43:47] uh next Thursday I believe the uh uh the [43:49] 25th I think it starts about 5:30 here [43:51] downtown so come on out and um [43:54] participate and and support oural Local [43:57] High School uh in their parade their [43:59] annual parade they do here and uh we [44:01] definitely support those guys in that as [44:04] well and finally I will leave you with [44:08] this I think I've said this before but I [44:10] think it was important and and I wanted [44:12] to say it again I want to read this [44:15] again you may not always see the results [44:18] of your kindness but every bit of [44:20] positive energy you contribute to the [44:22] world and your community makes a better [44:25] place for all of us [44:28] and I'm done yep all [44:30] right commission [44:32] Wilson [44:34] okay she grabs all the I I do I grab all [44:37] the Flyers out in the lobby so um mayor [44:40] I just want to tell you I know I'm going [44:41] to use your word I irked your were irked [44:43] I think I irked you in the begin you [44:44] never heard that word before I have but [44:46] I Haven High School I haven't heard that [44:48] one in a while but I think I irked you [44:49] in the beginning so um I respect your [44:52] position I want you to know that I know [44:55] I just there's a hazard sitting next to [44:57] him um I right now the only thing I want [45:00] to tell you is to put on your calendar [45:02] please we're going to have the Halloween [45:04] Hollow night on Friday October 25th from [45:07] 6:00 to 9: it will be held at Bill breze [45:09] Park in the past it was held in a [45:11] different Park I won't say because I [45:12] don't want you to go there but it will [45:14] be um trunk Retreat on October 25th so [45:19] please remember that and also I also [45:21] want to make sure you mark your calendar [45:23] for the Jolly jamere which um I think [45:26] we've all looked at the calendars and [45:28] there's only three weeks between [45:29] Thanksgiving and the 25th of December so [45:33] it will be a quick month and it will be [45:36] on downtown from 3: to 8 on the 14th of [45:40] December so please mark your calendars [45:42] because we'd love to see you I want just [45:43] want to say also I appreciate when [45:45] residents come out and comment I think [45:47] it's so important for us to hear because [45:49] sometimes I don't know if you realize [45:51] but we come may have we he we spoke to [45:54] different people and they give us their [45:55] opinion but sometimes you sit here and [45:57] someone says something and you all of a [45:59] sudden change your opinion and so I [46:01] think it's so important that our [46:03] residents do come out and tell us their [46:04] concerns and how they feel because this [46:06] is your community it's not just our [46:08] community but we may be here making [46:10] decisions and we may make decisions but [46:12] they affect everyone I'm District Two [46:15] but whatever decision I make affects the [46:16] whole city and I think it's very [46:18] important so I want you to know that [46:20] whether we agree or disagree I'm using [46:27] thank you Mr Hart whether we agree or [46:29] disagree I think it's so important to [46:30] hear what you have to say so thank you [46:33] and habitat I'm looking forward to um [46:36] seeing some improvements in some of our [46:38] homes we know that as you said senior [46:40] citizens and other one other folks maybe [46:42] can't do what you can do and so we [46:45] appreciate your volun the the volunteers [46:47] that will improve because we all want to [46:49] live next door to a house that maybe [46:51] that needs help but maybe this is the [46:53] opportunity for someone where they can [46:55] reach out and actually get the help and [46:57] it's hard to ask some folks have a hard [47:00] time asking so thank you so much and [47:04] that's it did I you anymore oh I'll tell [47:08] you about that another Mee can I still [47:10] continue to you you didn't IR me it was [47:11] the letters I got wow that's okay I love [47:14] and you're right I don't have a problem [47:16] getting I listen I get a ton you like to [47:19] see my phone sometimes no it's okay I [47:20] get a ton ton of messages and I don't [47:23] have a problem and I try to answer [47:24] everybody now I didn't answer all 400 of [47:27] I did couple back to some of them [47:28] because it was the same story same [47:31] message same thing but all I'm saying is [47:33] look into what what we're doing look at [47:35] why there is reasons why we do what we [47:37] do with the with doing those you know [47:41] developments uh commissioner Kennedy [47:45] thank [47:47] you um it's a good [47:50] point um many [47:53] times someone a developer someone [47:56] submits some something and it goes by [47:58] process to the pnz or it comes to the [48:01] commission and we get those letters and [48:03] they say before we've discussed or [48:05] expressed our intent to vote how come [48:08] you're supporting X and we aren't in [48:12] support yet of X and probably will vote [48:15] against X um and I get probably my [48:19] district has a lot of the growth and I [48:22] get a lot of those letters and [48:23] frequently they do say you know insert [48:25] your commissioner's name here here [48:28] um but [48:30] consistent in the tone and in all of the [48:34] emails is who are you [48:38] for whose priorities are [48:41] first whose interests are you after is [48:45] it people and businesses that are based [48:48] in okoi and in Orange County or is it [48:52] large [48:53] conglomerate from out of state National apartment Builders commercial [48:59] property owners rental companies versus [49:03] homeowners and that's a good [49:05] question and um I just want to reiterate [49:09] that this moratorium This Land [49:11] Development code rewrite has been long [49:15] overdue um as other things and this is [49:19] your commission this is your [49:22] commissioner drawing a line in the sand [49:25] that we support the resident [49:27] we support the businesses and the [49:29] business owners that are here that are [49:32] based in OT frequently you've seen me [49:34] I've asked someone comes up with an [49:36] issue and ALS ask is your business based [49:39] in okoi and I've been criticized for [49:41] that um but I think we owe our loyalty [49:45] to the residents and the people that [49:47] voted to put us here and the people who [49:49] pay the taxes here and I'm proud of that [49:52] and I'll defend that that's my only [49:54] comment thanks sir [49:57] um couple things Craig I wanted to ask [49:59] you about um I had some questions about [50:02] and I sewer the hookup for SE that we're [50:07] uh talked about I have somebody asking [50:10] about that that and wants to add get on [50:13] to the Sewer so did we come up with a [50:17] way of doing the pr of because they're in the process now doing that so [50:24] we have several excuse me may we have [50:27] several things at play right now we have [50:29] looked at it and are in the process of [50:31] scheduling briefings with you oneon-one [50:33] to lay that out for how an assessment [50:37] program would work for that we also have [50:40] a Grant application um [50:42] underway and I don't want to get [50:45] anybody's hopes up but we hope to be [50:47] able to get some Grant funds to help [50:50] with uh some of the expenses of people [50:53] having to hook up um I am planning to [50:56] have have a uh briefing before you at a [51:00] future Commission meeting about that but [51:03] we will be scheduling individual [51:05] meetings um a couple of you have been [51:06] briefed already and um we we have we [51:10] have a plan and um we're hoping to hear [51:13] from this grant sooner than later I'd [51:15] hope to be able to uh speak to you about [51:18] that because um you know the the capital [51:21] charges are something that you know [51:22] still looms large with regard to the the [51:25] connections [51:27] themselves so yes we have a plan um who [51:31] do they need to go talk to well you [51:34] don't have an assessment program in [51:36] place right now I know that so if they [51:38] come and talk to us we're going to have [51:39] to tell them here's how much it's going [51:40] to cost what cost are going to be but [51:43] once again this has been going on two [51:45] months two months we've asked about this [51:48] with we've met twice I've met with [51:50] citizens with with the city about this [51:53] problem now if if they got to sit there [51:57] and wait cuz they got a septic tank [51:59] that's bad they would we want to put [52:00] them on sewer and they're downtown how [52:03] do we do not not the downtown part here [52:05] but I mean over here is residential so [52:07] why there's got to be a way we can do [52:10] that I and I know you're you you just [52:13] took over but I'm still saying these [52:16] people have got a problem they going to [52:17] have to spend now I know where they put [52:20] us SE T in here year ago matter of fact [52:25] $18,000 $18,000 now I know $7,000 is a [52:29] lot less but it also helps us do what [52:31] we're trying to do is get away from the [52:33] safy tanks but there's got to be a way [52:37] we can we can figure that out other [52:38] cities do it I know I'm just saying [52:41] there you can't maybe we can work with [52:43] them and sign some kind of contract that [52:45] we can hook them up and then we either [52:47] what if we come up with that we do that [52:48] if we don't we don't I'm just I I'm I [52:52] know $7,000 a lot of money put some of [52:54] these people living in these houses to [52:56] put out it really is 18,000 is way a lot [53:00] um I I would be happy to have this [53:03] person meet with our staff go over it um [53:06] that's why I'm ask you who did they go [53:07] meet with um Mr rumor and Miss bowling [53:11] okay okay that's all right um got that [53:14] just real quick on that you wouldn't [53:17] have had time to get the assessment on [53:19] the tax roll this year when it had been [53:21] brought up so um we're working [53:24] feverishly to try to find other ways to [53:26] help mitigate their cost because the an [53:29] assessment program is not going to get [53:30] on the tax roll next year if you I know [53:34] the assessment deal was but why would [53:36] you not be able to run through the [53:38] city that's up to the city [53:41] commission direct us to do that there's [53:43] other ways to go around [53:45] that absolutely the commission could actually direct us to do that yeah [53:51] that's what I've said we might do that I just think it's I know there's some [53:55] places in the old part of town that is [53:57] going to be affected with this and there [54:00] the the bad part of it is not bad part [54:03] it's near the [54:04] lake it's at with a block off the lake [54:07] and half a block off the lake and that's [54:09] one of the major errors that I'm talking [54:11] about that they trying to hook up the [54:14] sewer we actually [54:16] we I I wish we'd had an opportunity to [54:19] talk about this before because um I [54:22] actually had a conversation yesterday [54:23] with one of our Consultants who is [54:26] actually trying to get us funds from a [54:27] county program that the Orange County [54:30] epd has a grant program in addition to [54:32] the Florida Department of Environmental [54:34] Protection Program with specific regard [54:37] to uh Lakeshore Drive and Stark Lake and [54:40] getting those people off septic and on [54:42] sewer um so I just wanted to make make [54:44] sure everyone understood we are actively [54:46] working on that yes I I just wanted I've [54:49] been asked um I probably would have got [54:52] with you earlier but you know Gators are [54:55] not doing real good and I had a bad [54:57] weekend so you know so but I I feel I [55:01] got company where's Mike at not doing [55:04] real good [55:05] either all right stop signs on Adare and [55:09] U worst Road worst Road or up so be [55:13] careful watch for those top signs and [55:16] also the ones on uh White Road or are [55:20] getting worked on now design because [55:22] they got a turn Lanes in they had to [55:24] make a different design so that's good [55:26] one thank you very much thanks to the [55:28] public works [55:30] uh let's see what [55:33] else I think that's it oh oh she G me [55:37] one take my FL and I got to ask Mr [55:40] bastor a minute this is nightout [55:42] National nightout Police Community [55:44] Partnership October the 1st [55:47] 2024 5:00 p.m. through 900 p.m. Bill PR [55:51] Bill Breeze Park fun DJ food trucks K9 [55:55] SWAT games for children adults Raffles [55:58] vendors lots of giveaways that's um [56:02] October the 1st 5:00 p.m. 9 him right [56:05] out here at Bill Breeze Park one other [56:07] quick thing [56:08] John you were here for that item 13 was [56:11] you you didn't put any public comments [56:13] or anything n is everything okay I got [56:16] one thing well you got it fell out of [56:18] public no this is just I know but you can't do it from there I'm going I'm [56:23] going to give you some of my time come [56:25] up here come up if you got to say [56:26] something come up here and say [56:32] it come up front if you got [56:35] it all I'm going to say is John you have [56:39] to go to the mic okay he went o too [56:43] that's right I graduated that's [56:46] right wrong with [56:48] Rusty all I wanted to say is uh [56:52] September the 29th we'll be back here [56:56] okay the chass [56:58] reunions is that 29th Saturday I thought [57:01] it was 20th they told me it was 29th so [57:04] they might have did that on [57:06] purpose you're right but that anyhow we [57:08] got that coming up I know John thank you [57:10] John does a real good job cooking [57:12] barbecue folks he's great at it matter [57:14] of fact all right is it the 29th on the [57:17] Su 29th is a Sunday that's a Sunday John [57:19] September it's the 28th it's the [57:23] 28th I know is it September or October [57:27] who told you that [57:28] Alice yeah well it's the 28th she just [57:32] want you to come the day after sep yeah [57:35] September the 28th okay just call her [57:38] tonight and tell her we appreciate [57:40] everybody being here thank you habitat [57:42] thank you to citizens