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Good morning, good morning. Good morning, madam chair.

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there's a lot of excitement in the room. Everyone is truly happy to see each other.

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I'm happy to see you all. And we're going to get started.

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I know you guys can hang around afterwards if you like,
But we're going to get started.

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we do have a few items to address, so this meeting is called to order.

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let's stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united
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of america, and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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okay. One. Two. Three. Thank you. Now we'll have the electronic roll call.

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good morning everyone. Rebecca schulz, broward mpo over here in the corner.

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welcome. And if you could please press present on the bottom right hand side of your
Screen,

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I'm sorry, left hand side of your screen. For those that are here for those online,
We do have you we are taking the attendance.

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we currently have board member scuotto, board member davis and board member thompson and
Furr.

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thompson is not on yet, but furr is. Yes. Furr is. Okay.

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okay. We have a quorum. Yes, chair. Okay. Very good.

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next, we'll have the approval of the minutes of september 4th minutes.

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I should say we have a motion and a second. Electronic voting please.

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waiting on board member mchugh. Thank you. Motion passes.

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approval of excused absences. We have member dunn,
Member fisher hardin and

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lewellen who have asked for excused absences.

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anyone else? You need to be on the microphone,
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you can identify.

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is our mic on? I don't have a request. Okay,
There it is.

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okay. Just reporting for vice mayor tracy caldwell.

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she will not be able to attend today. Okay. Wanted me to put that in the record.

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and she has requested to be excused. Yes, ma'am. Okay. We can add that to the excused list. Okay.

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and if we can, we. Is that a motion already? Or we have a motion and a second already.

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all in favor? Electronic voting. Electronic voting.

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good morning. Waiting on you, chair. Sorry. And board member good,
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of course. Okay. Okay. Next, we have approval

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of the agenda. Get a motion and a second.

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may we have a electronic vote on the approval of the agenda?

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everyone voted. Motion passes. Now we're on to public comments.

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do we have any member from the public that wishes to comment.

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madam chair, nobody has filled out a card. Okay.

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so we're on to consent agenda. We have 4 items on the consent agenda.

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item number 2 have several parts to it. But they are only 4 items.

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does anyone wish to pull any of these items? If not,
May I have a motion and a second?

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electronic vote, please. On the consent agenda. We do have a motion and a second.

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motion passes. On to action item. Please read action item number 1 and 2

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for the records. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. For the record then these,
All these items are open for public comment.

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anyone wishes to speak, they can be heard. And for those who are who are virtual,
That if you with the motion that's made and seconded,

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that you are voting with the majority, unless you indicate otherwise.

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item number 1 is a motion to approve the florida department of transportation (fdot)
District four draft tentative work program for fiscal year 2027 -

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2031. Okay, we have christopher restrepo, followed by john krane from fdot.

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yes. Good morning. My name is christopher restrepo,
Regional planning manager here at the broward mpo.

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and before fdot gives their presentation, I just want to fill you in on some of the things
That we have learned about the draft work program,

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how the draft work program continues to program the projects from our different funding
Programs.

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and to give you some highlights. So first up,
The draft tentative work program is part of our core products as part of our

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transportation improvement program. This is the draft that eventually becomes the tip next
Year.

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so we're looking at the years from 2027 to 2031.

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as a total of projects we have 342 projects that are listed on that list.

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please go through that document. It's quite large and there's a lot of really cool easter
Eggs in there. The total funding that we have anticipated for the draft work program is $4

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billion. From our different programs that were adopted as part of our 2050 metropolitan
Transportation plan.

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we have six of them. Here this table shows the breakdown of the percentages that we,
That are being allocated to each one of those programs.

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the highest one being highways and fr8, about 26,
Oh, sorry, roads for families.

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that's $63 million for mpo attributable funds that are going to the roads for family
Program.

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then we have about 26 million for highways and fr8. And you can see the other numbers there. We have $97 million of mpo attributable.

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that's our su dollars. Those are the different percentages that we set up in mtp,
And you can see that breakdown here.

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overall all of the for the projects, taking into account all the different funding sources
Available talking about federal and state.

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this is the breakdown of those six programs that we have,
The largest one being highways and fr8,

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about 82.9% of overall funding going to that program.

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we have $467 million. Sorry. The economic development one is a little off,
That's that should be 50.5,

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about 13.5%. So we have a total of about $3.7 billion that are going to the different
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some project highlights to talk about. The broward commuter rail s. Is identified in our draft work program. The project is currently on hold.

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going over some negotiations there, but there is program funds for capital improvements in
Fiscal year 27 and 28.

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nw 41st street from 52nd avenue to state road 7.

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that is a new project, part of our program that's been added to the draft tentative.

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also, the s. Middle river mobility project in the city of fort lauderdale that's
Identified.

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and then we also have a project nw 27th avenue from atlantic avenue to mlk boulevard.

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this is from the city of pompano beach. This is the concept development that we are
Currently working on that we have developed cost estimates and concepts for and did some

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public outreach. So we're really happy to see that there are some design funding in the in
The draft tentative.

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also a new project in miramar. We have miramar parkway from sw 172nd avenue to dikes road
With funding in fiscal year 29.

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so very excited we can get some design going for that one. And then we have two other projects fort lauderdale/hollywood international airport,
Automated people mover.

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that project is stable, so it's good we're seeing that progress. And then also all the various projects that contribute to sw 10th street,
All those interchanges and adding lanes.

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that is, those projects are also stable in the draft tentative.

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so other highlights I do want to point out when it comes to trial funding,
We still do have our federal dollars that are identified in the draft tentative work

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program, just as you as the executive board heard earlier today that the state dollars are
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are decreasing there. So you're not going to find a lot of the state match in the draft
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but express bus operations and maintenance funding on managed lanes. So talking about the I-95 managed lanes, there is no later year funding for those
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so talk about 2030 and 2031. We're missing some funding there. And then the us 27 freight and passenger rail study.

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this was a priority for the mpo that we placed in our list of priority projects.

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this project did not get funded. But it's not all doom and gloom.

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those are just three little highlights I wanted to point out to you. I did want to say
That the district 4 staff have been incredible,

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incredibly good collaborators with our list of priority projects. List of priority projects this year. We're able to get some really good projects,
More than what I've listed here that they're going to walk through,

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especially when it comes to our infrastructure hardening program,
Our technology program,

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and some other highways and freights priorities. So the staff recommendation for us of the mpo is to approve the draft tentative work
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and we want to continue to collaborate very closely with fdot to make sure our priorities
Get funded.

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so now I'll hand it off to john krane. Yeah. Good morning.

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my name is john krane. I am the director of transportation development at fdot district 4.

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secretary braun sends his regards. He does regret not being able to be here today as a
Conflict.

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but he kind of looks at this as, like, the super bowl. So we did bring some of our team with us here in case there are other questions on
Specific projects.

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and, you know, hope you're as excited as we are to see some of what we have.

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I'm going to breeze through some of my presentation because some of it is just agency
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and I know you have a big agenda, but I will spend a little time on this. This is our compass on the left-hand side of this.

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hopefully you've seen some of this in some of our presentations to you over the year.

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this really is our guide, our guides, our staff as how we a program projects as well as
Develop those projects and produce those projects.

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community is at the center. We all live in communities. We're part of the communities and these projects,
You know, are in your communities.

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so it's very important for us to make sure that the projects we develop meet the community
Vision.

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so we use that as our center guiding principle. And at the true north of our compass is safety.

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we try to build safety into everything we do. We try to empower our project managers to listen to the community about safety concerns on
Their projects and build those into the projects,

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and then working around resiliency or trying to make a purpose to every dollar.

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you know, we're looking at every project, trying to see how we can make it last into the
Future.

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on the bottom right, you see supply chain, obviously a critical component we've noticed
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fr8 goods movement. It weaves its way throughout the transportation system and is
Essential to the economy of se florida.

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on the lower left, technology again purposed every dollar. How can we leverage what's out there and get more capacity,
More throughput on our system.

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and then in the upper left we have workforce development. We've got a very large program. It's critical to the industry to make sure that we are
Getting people into our industry to support our financial services,

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our contractors, our designers. So that's a key component for us.

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you'll see a slide or two on that. A leader in transportation fdot,
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on here,

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but we really do lead not only the nation, but the world in a lot of elements.

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you know, with spaceport, we have airports and seaports in district 4 and around the
State.

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so we are a large industry. What it takes to run the industry.

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you know, secretary perdue likes to he kind of came up with these numbers to kind of
Stress to the agency how big we are,

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how important it is to have a workforce to run this. Over 10,500 500 contracts. We have active with $19.1 billion.

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we have an average cash outflow of $47 million a day.

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so it takes a lot of people to run this industry.

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narrowing it down to district 4. We run from broward county here on the south all the way
Up to indian river county/vero beach area.

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we have 4 million residents, 5000mi². We have over 783 bridges,
06,600 miles

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lane miles. Believe it or not, we have 92 airports within the district,
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and we have one mega project. There's several mega projects throughout the state. One of those is right here in broward county,
Sw 10th street and a mega project is a project over 500 million.

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population growth is putting a lot of pressure on our communities,
On our transportation system.

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you see, the expected population is supposed to be 4.94 million people in district 4.

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15% of that increase is attributed to the broward county.

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obviously, it's a bigger number when you're talking raw people because we already have a
Large population.

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so moving into the draft tentative work program,
Fiscal years 27-31, this is a breakdown.

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we have $5.7 billion in our work program for district 4.

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it's the breakdown you see on the upper left corner safety. I mentioned safety is our true north. This is we build safety into everything we do.

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the 126 million you see there is on top of that. Those are safety specific type projects, something like wrong-way driving or those types
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the next two icons on the top and the middle one on the bottom.

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that's safety and preservation. We have our resurfacing,
Bridge repair and replacement as well as our operations,

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maintenance and consultant contracts. That's $1.5 billion.

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that comes off the top of our work program. We are dedicated to making sure we keep and
Preserve the system that's in place.

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to the right of that, you see our state highway system and other roadway construction.

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and the lower left on the bottom is the product support for that. So that's 2.4 billion and $800 million supporting new projects.

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upper right is our right of way that supports that 126 million.

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and then in the lower right, we are not just a roadway agency,
Right? We are truly multimodal with our freights, our airports and our seaports.

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we have 784 million program for that. This slide I'm just going to glaze

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over. But again it's speaking to a purpose to every dollar. We can't just build our way out. So we had to start reimagining transportation.

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how do we do that? One of the ways innovation in project delivery. How do we deliver projects faster? Upper right workforce development.

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I mentioned that we're going to need to entice students at a younger age,
Get them excited about our industry and reach out to them and try and get them into the

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industry. Lower left research and innovation how do we stretch the existing system for
More throughput?

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we have a son tracks, I don't know if you've heard of it in north central florida where we
Are doing a lot of research on new technologies there.

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and then emerging technology kind of stems from our research and innovation you know,
Autonomous vehicles,

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drones, advanced air mobility. Speaking of advanced air mobility,
We do believe that this is really florida's going to be a leader in this type of

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technology. We are actually taking steps to reach out and train our stakeholders on what
They can do to be ready for this.

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this technology is here. It's really how do we manage it? How do we create the infrastructure to support this?

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and we're expecting that this type of technology will be actually functional in florida
Within three years time frame.

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so this was a workforce development slide. You see some of our own agency efforts in the
Pictures.

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on the left hand side, we have a mentorship program,
A rotation program where we allow staff to rotate around the agency to kind of learn what

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other people do, maybe develop a career path for them in an area they didn't believe they
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on the right hand side, we have hiring events. Sw 10th street provides us a great opportunity to have a hiring event,
Hopefully in june of 2026,

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where we're going to draw our workforce for that project from the community around us.

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so we're looking very forward to that. Target zero safety is really critical.

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obviously you all have stressed it. We're stressing it. It's not just built into our roadway projects,
But it's education, it's outreach.

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and these slides are some of the outreach activities that we've worked with the community
On through our community traffic safety team.

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so y'all are on the planning side of the business,
Right? You see the tip come forward. So we like to celebrate our successes.

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I just have a few slides built in here to kind of go through some of the highlights of our
Successes through this past year.

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so we had a couple ribbon cuttings lloyd estates elementary,
City of miramar pedestrian bridge,

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the alligator alley education center. Alligator education center,
If you haven't had a chance to be out there,

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it really is a something to be seen. We've got a lot of educational elements built into
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a beautiful boardwalk to look into, the everglades we've built where there was a parking
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we've now built wetlands into that. So it's an award winning project we were recognized
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henry kinney tunnel, another award winning project,
Really took collaboration with the city.

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thank you city, you know, this was, I think,
Going to be a something that we can showcase to the communities for years to come.

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oh, sorry. So in our resurfacing program, I wanted to highlight the atlantic boulevard in
City of pompano beach and the hollywood boulevard.

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two, two really good projects, examples of where we've been able to upgrade lighting,
Upgrade pedestrian crosswalks,

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convert to led lighting, make it a little bit more resilient mobility improvement
Projects.

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so you all are probably very familiar with the I-95 mobility hub at cypress creek that's
Been going on,

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that's completed. We were very happy to finish that. And the university of drive in coral springs,
I think that was a very successful project.

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we were able to build bike lanes, make the buffered bike lanes,
Seven foot lanes, build a wider shared use path along the corridor,

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really accommodate the community vision and needs their.

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moving forward the sw 10th street. We were kicked off the project this year.

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we're very happy about it. We're doing utility relocations for it right now and we're in
The innovation stage.

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so we've got our contract team, the contractors,
The designers looking at ways to make the project a little bit more efficient,

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build up innovation into the project. So a lot that'll be ongoing for the next seven years
Or so.

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another. So a couple other awards we had the state road seven at oaks road intersection
Improvement project wanted to highlight that touches all elements of the compass.

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I-95, 3c, phase 3, I think you all can't wait for this to be fully completed.

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we're in the running for an award, so we put up our little qr code there.

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if you want to vote for this project. We're in the running for a national award on this.

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take the time to scan it. Vote for us. And then under construction 3c.

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this should be wrapped up by spring of 2026. So we're really looking forward to that.

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make the east-west movements a little bit more efficient into the express lanes.

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and now I'm going to turn it over to victoria to kind of run through some of the projects
In the draft tentative work program.

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thank you john. Hi. Good morning everyone. Chair board.

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my name is victoria peters. I'm from district 4 with the rest of our team,
And we're going to run through some exciting new projects off of your lopp this morning.

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so to start with, just illustrates our work program wheel.

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this is a slide I'm very fond of because I get excited with the work program cycle.

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and this illustrates the work program cycle perfectly. So through july through october, which is kind of where we are now,
We're in an accelerated cycle.

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we prepare the draft tentative work program in coordination with npos and tpos.

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we balance the draft tentative work program to allocations received. And then we come here to your committees, to the board,
To present draft tentative work programs.

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and then we actually had a public hearing right down the street,
Which was well attended on october 23rd.

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and that was for the draft tentative work program. And the years are from fy27. It's important to note that 2031 is the new fifth,
Fifth year.

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if you have favorite projects in fy 2026, you won't see them in here because that's our
Current year.

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and this is our new draft tentative work program. So in december, we submit the preliminary tentative work program to the governor's office
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the florida transportation commission, or the ftc and the department of commerce.

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ftc public hearings are held on january 12th,
And then the legislature convenes on january 13th.

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we then submit the final tentative work program to the governor's office,
The legislature,

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the ftc, and the department of commerce. And then the drum roll for july 1st,
The governor and the legislature adopts,

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becomes the adopted tentative work program, becomes the adopted work program,
And the department of transportation secretary,

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jared perdue, right now he signs it. So starting with the top left,
Just to go over some of our general work program themes,

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fdot updates construction and right of way costs on an annual basis.

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overall, this year, project costs increase with respect to last year.

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those are our item line items. Funding allocations were lower this year than prior cycles,

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and changes in revenue projections from most recent revenue estimating conferences
Impacted our allocation distributions.

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our goal is always to maintain projects that are in the common first 4 years,
Related number one,

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to safety and then the preservation and maintenance of our assets,
Which is our roads and infrastructure.

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new phases or projects are generally programed in the new fifth year,
Which again is fy27,

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is fy31 this year. And then the good news is district 4 work program is balanced to the
Allocations we received,

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along with all the projects and phases we programed off of your lopp.

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so the first highlight or project we'd like to highlight is your number 12 priority for
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which is fiber installation along the sfrc corridor.

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this is a rail feasibility study and fiber is a very important priority for broward mpo
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and we are supporting fiber as it's the backbone of operations and the sfrc.

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number 4 is for highways and freights, where the power line road from sw 10th street to
Broward/palm beach county line.

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the scope is to widen from 4 to 6 lanes. We have a feasibility study that is ongoing and
Then we have for new programing and new gaming.

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the pd&e starts in fy29 and we program $2 million.

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number 5 is state road 7 at commercial boulevard. We have a pd that starts in our current year and we have programed for new,
This fiscal year.

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design starts in fy31 for $3.5 million. The scope for this project may include widening
Sidewalk and bike lanes.

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going forward, we were also able to fund the design phase in fiscal year 31 for $1.1
Million for sheridan street from dixie highway to u.s.1 for

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bike lanes and sidewalks. Currently, the feasibility study is ongoing and there is a pd&e
Funded in fy28-29 for $2 million.

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number 11 is oakland park. It's state road 7. We currently have the feasibility study which is ongoing.

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we were able to program this year a pd&e, which was deferred for $2 million.

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number 15 is copans road grade separation at sfrc. The feasibility study is deferred from fy27 to 28.

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and number 16 for your lopp. East orange drive from davie road to state road 7.

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we have a feasibility study that was already programed for fy28,
And this cycle we were able to fund the design phase for this project in the new fifth

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year of fy31 for $610,000. The scope is potentially to add certain,
Add center turn lanes and lighting improvements.

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number 17 is sw 148 avenue from bass creek to miramar parkway.

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but the pd&e was already programed for fiscal year 27. And the good news is design is now funded during this cycle in fiscal year 30 for $1.7
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your number 19, atlantic boulevard at state road 7. We have a feasibility study in new fiscal year 31 for $300,000.

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and number 12, we have oakland park at powerline road. And scope was added to the existing project funded in fy27.

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we added an additional $300,000. Dania beach boulevard from u.s.1 to a1a.

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we have a feasibility study was programed in fiscal year 29 for $300,000.

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number 7, this is from your lopp last cycle and we programed this year miramar parkway
From sw 72nd avenue to dykes road.

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we have funded design in fiscal year 29 for almost a million at 800,000.

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and this will be a large project. So now we have some infrastructure hardening.

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we programed a whole bunch of feasibility studies for various locations within the five
Year work program cycle,

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for a total of almost $3 million. And you can see all the locations that we programed that
Will be looking at for infrastructure hardening.

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I won't go through the list, but there's quite a few we programed. Great collaboration. Then we were able to program actually a lot more infrastructure
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so we group them. We are converting traffic signal span wires to mast arms.

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so. So this slide shows the off system locations.

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we have a feasibility study we were able to fund in fiscal year 27 for a half $1 million.

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we were also able to fund design and fy29 for $1.3 million.

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those are the off system or non if we say off system,
Non state load locations.

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and let me see if I, yes. And then the next the next grouping that we have we converted
More signal mast arm to mast arms for more on system locations.

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design is in fiscal year 31 for $300,000 for this grouping.

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and then we also programed converting traffic signal wires to mast arms for on system.

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this grouping we determined right of way is required. And we put the design in fiscal year 31 for $1.3 million.

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and then we have see we have broward county six program changes.

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so for fort lauderdale/hollywood international airport automated people mover,
We advanced funding for that project to fiscal year 27 for.

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sure, absolutely. Oh, wait, did I. Is that the one?

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oh I'm sorry, did I jump over a slide? Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm trying to speed it up. So for broward county program changes we were able to advance
To fiscal year 27 for $20 million

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for fort lauderdale/hollywood international airport,
The automated people mover.

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we have the I-95 ramps to and from commercial boulevard n.

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andrews avenue frontage road. The right of way phase was deferred to fiscal year 30.

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for I-95 from commercial to n. Of cypress creek road construction phase was deferred to
32.

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and I-95 from miami dade county line to griffin road. The interchange improvements of design and right of way phases were deferred to fy36.

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and I-95 from pembroke road to hollywood boulevard,
The interchange of add lanes and right of way phase was deferred to 36.

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so additional funded projects we advanced the wrong way driving detection system.

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this was another safety initiative that we were able to advance. We looked at high priority locations in broward county,
I-95 exit ramps at northbound davie,

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southbound broward, northbound broward hov, northbound broward hov,
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and southbound westbound of atlantic, and 595 eastbound at flamingo.

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the construction project was advanced to fy26,
Which is current year in the amount of $2.4 million.

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since we published this this citizens report and draft ten of work program,
We were able to actually advance another safety project for

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broward county. It's not in your packet, but we're also able to advance a project in
Broward.

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it's state road 84. It's se 24th street from sw 4th avenue to state,
To u.s.1.

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it was advanced from fiscal year 27 to 26, which is our current fiscal year.

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and that construction phase will be letting for $1.3 million in june,
And that's really great news.

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we also have the I-75 alligator alley-full electronic tolling conversion.

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construction is in fy28 for $10.5 million. We have mast arm replacement projects in
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fy26 for 1.3 million, construction in fy28 for 4.7 million.

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and we also have our district 4 regional traffic management center,
Or tmc.

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we have our design starting in fiscal year 26 for $4.5 million and construction starting
In fy29 for $38 million.

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and there is a rendition of what our traffic management center will look like or may look
Like.

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and a map with different roads. And we will take any comments or questions.

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we also have a safety message. Let me get and of course there's stephen braun is our
Secretary for our district.

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and see. Let me see. Thank you. This month and of course,
We all in this room take safety very seriously.

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this is pedestrian safety month. Thank you. I'll take any questions or comments you have.

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thank you very much for your presentation. We do have a number of individuals who want to
Speak.

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so I, if you can and we do have a long agenda and these are all important.

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so first we have member trantalis. Thank you,
Madam chair.

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so thank you for your presentation. It's quite comprehensive. And we appreciate all the emphasis that the department is putting on broward county and
Broward county roadways.

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but you heard me say roadways, right? I haven't seen one single slide or emphasis on
Anything to do with mass transit.

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if anything, at the beginning of the presentation,
Not yours, but the gentleman before you talked about,

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for example the commuter rail and commuter rail was put on hold.

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we also heard how the state has defunded tri rail,
Essentially putting it out of business.

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unless the county ponies up for the difference,
Which from my understanding, is not in a position to do so.

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so this love affair with roadways and getting awards for expanding the highways from 4
Lanes to 20 lanes.

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this is not the future of south florida. We have to start thinking about mass transit
Options and opportunities.

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and we were hearing about billions of dollars being spent here in south florida.

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but it's not in the right direction. We still have our heads buried in the past.

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roads are not the future of broward county or anywhere in south florida.

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please talk to us today about what the department plans to do about bringing forward mass
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this city that we're in today, or any of the cities in broward county are not going to
Continue to suffocate from the amount of traffic and gridlock that we

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will continue to suffer as we attract vehicular traffic,
As opposed to mass transit options.

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do you have a response? I can just briefly respond because I appreciate that briefly.

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it's good. So thank you for your comments, right. Obviously we do nothing in a black box. We are at the behest of our legislature and the
Funding that is provided to us,

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that. But the funding is from recommendations from the secretary's office.

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so why isn't the secretary's office advocating for funds for mass transit?

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I can't speak to what he is advocating for up in tallahassee.

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I'm not sure he's not. I do know that we have 850 million program for modal projects down
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program, which includes transit in its many facets.

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I think we in district 4 continue to advocate for bct and bcr south.

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but we do have to work within the constraints that are given to us. And when we work with our partners to leverage funding and opportunities,
We'll make those cases when we have that window.

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and, you know, we have your comments here. I'll definitely make sure that,
You know, secretary braun hears it.

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secretary perdue. Here's it. Thank you very much. Member sorensen. Thank you very much, madam chair.

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several questions here. First, what is wrong way driving detection systems?

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so that is a technology that's built into ramp systems.

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so if you come up to an I-95 ramp and maybe you have an off ramp and an on ramp right next
To each other,

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and there's an opportunity for somebody to make a left turn into the wrong ramp,
It would put technology on the ramp that would detect that a vehicle is moving in the

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wrong direction. It may then feed into an its sign at the management center,
Where they can then alert fhp.

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there's signs that go on that alert the driver. They're moving in the wrong direction, so. Okay great.

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thank you. That's that's great. It's great to hear that's those are moving forward in
Broward.

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why were the I-95 ramps delayed deferred? So at the beginning of the cycle that she talked
About right.

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we update our costs for right of way. We update our costs for construction.

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as we do that, there's a fixed set of money in that fiscal year. One of the legislative actions that was taken last year was related to doc stamps.

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the depreciation and doc stamp revenue is a huge piece of our system program.

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so as that revenue evaporated, we had to do some rebalancing of that.

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and that when that happens we'll take a project,
You know, use the funding in the current year,

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if there were any projects that were there, we have to move those out to a year that can
Then absorb it,

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and that will cause a domino effect throughout the work program. Thanks. And was it the docs, to the mayor's question,
Was it the doc stamp impact that affected commuter rail funding?

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that's my understanding, is that that feeds the fre,
The florida rail enterprise, which is the primary source of funding we use for tri rail

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and transit. Transit had other impacts as well,
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okay, and so it seems like advocacy to the legislature is probably the most helpful part
Of reengaging from

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a commuter rail funding standpoint. Brian, it seems like you're is that right?

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I mean, I would suggest obviously from your own communities.

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yes. You know, and then about commuter rail,
The us 27 fr8.

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I'd like to hear a little bit more about that. What that because I've talked to fecr about that.

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but I'd like to hear more from your perspective. So we convened a meeting with the various
Regional planning councils,

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dot staff from various offices up and down the corridor,
As well as county staff and mpo staff.

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we tried to assess whether or not there was a unified vision for where it would go,
What it would serve.

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it didn't seem to be that there was that unification unified vision yet where the logical
Termini would be.

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we've done up to 12 studies on this corridor that included rail.

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and at last estimate, it was over $1 billion,
The last rail estimate.

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and until we feel that that's, you know, there's a clear understanding that we couldn't
See spending more money for another study,

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right. I kind of need to know who's going to run it,
Who's going to build it, what are what are all the pieces of that pie.

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okay. Thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Thank you.

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member shuham. Thank you, madam chair. Very quickly.

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first, I wanted to agree with mayor trantalis on a general comment that we need to shift
Our focus here in south florida,

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not only for traffic, but also for our environment and many other reasons for the common
Good.

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having said that, your powerpoint that you presented,
I don't see attached to the agenda and it was great.

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and I would love to get a copy of it. So can we get that first half of this powerpoint
Presentation?

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and just a general comment. You mentioned the hollywood boulevard project,
Which was great,

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but it was great in part because you guys had a great construction manager,
Erik namati, on that project for us.

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so I just wanted to share with you guys, when you have an fdot project happening in your
Communities things happen as the construction's

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going on. Never hesitate to reach out to your fdot contact. He was invaluable to just saving you know real headaches along the construction with light
Poles being moved,

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sidewalks and things like that. So I just wanted to give him a shout out. And I'm sure there's other wonderful construction managers at fdot in these other
Communities and other projects,

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and I would just encourage everybody to take advantage of that. I appreciate that. I'll make sure he hears. Thank you.

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thank you. Member jaffe. Thank you, madam chair. Mr. Crane, thank you so much for your powerpoint presentation. You know,
I think that out of all the state agencies,

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your agency interacts more with the residents than any other state agency in the state of
Florida.

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so about two sundays ago, I was out going out for a walk run in my community,
And I ran into your secretary.

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so I had basically, like, a 30 minutes one on one with your secretary. And to use your analogy of a super bowl, I was talking to the super bowl coach,
And I said,

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give me a little insight into your playbook. You know,
While we were out for a run and I didn't realize how big the district is,

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really. And I'm glad you gave that presentation. The powerpoint. 4 million plus residents, 6600 miles,
700 bridges.

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I don't think that the community really knows how big the district is. So I commend you for giving us that information.

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so when we were out after our we were done going over the playbook,
I said, let me take a picture of us.

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we were all sweaty and I posted it, and I said,
Look, I ran into the secretary of transportation in our community,

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in our district, and he's inspecting our roads on a sunday afternoon. You know, and I can't tell you how many positive comments that we got that he that he was
Out there in the community and more importantly,

357
00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:05,310
what the fdot is doing for broward county. There was zero negative comments.

358
00:44:09,950 --> 00:44:09,950
and, you know, there's a lot of construction going on when you're on the roads and you you
Want to vent and complain to somebody.

359
00:44:15,550 --> 00:44:15,550
but on on that particular regard, I just want to let you all know that you're doing a
Really good job.

360
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:20,230
and the response from the community, at least from what we saw,
Is very positive.

361
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:24,670
thank you. Thank you. Member cooper. Yes. Thank you so much.

362
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:31,670
ditto on the comments on transit. I wanted to say also,
It's great to hear us at least continue to talk about resiliency.

363
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:41,640
and I think I just in a response from hallandale beach's input and concern with flooding
To really continue to focus on that.

364
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,440
I see we have resurfacing projects. I know many were delayed.

365
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:54,920
is that getting sped up again? Or how are, how is all that in the queue?

366
00:44:59,840 --> 00:44:59,840
and with the resurfacing, are you looking at your drainage systems on these major
Corridors?

367
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:06,520
so the reason that we down here deferred so many projects because some other districts
Advanced a lot of projects we our resurfacing

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numbers, we actually kept our roadway a little better than,
Than other districts. We were kind of carrying some of the other districts in terms of our targets for the ftc.

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and we have maintenance goals where we give ourselves scores on all the roadways.

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so that required a rebalancing of the overall system based on the conditions of the roads.

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and that's why we ended up having to defer projects out where we might have been doing 150
To 200 miles every year.

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we had to drop down to about 100. So that maintain that that is our current target moving
Forward.

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so hopefully that'll bring a little bit more stability back to the program. And we'll see a regular flow of resurfacing coming through.

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00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:56,460
as it relates to drainage. We always look at drainage. It's not always feasible to incorporate drainage.

375
00:45:59,500 --> 00:45:59,500
so I do think, right, we're going to be looking for opportunities to leverage,
You know, communities partner with you all.

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00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:06,260
we had a very successful project in hollywood where,
You know, the mpo stepped in the county,

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00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:14,260
stepped in, the city stepped in, and we were able to get three pump stations. You know, they're under construction right now.

378
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:16,340
and so the moving forward, I do think, you know,
In order for us to truly be resilient, we're all going to have to feel the pain of the

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00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:27,460
purse, so to speak. But we will we're here for you. And, you know, we're there to hear the comments.

380
00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:29,940
we certainly have heard you know, about the flooding in south broward especially recently
With all the rain that's going on.

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00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:37,680
I'm referring not just to the pumping and the infrastructure component,
But actually the cleaning.

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00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:42,720
and, you know, those existing, you know, regretfully,
They're mostly gravity, but the maintenance of going in and cleaning those drains and,

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and maintaining. So preservation is at the top of our,
You know, you're going to see more preservation than you will probably of new projects if,

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if that continues to be a problem. So we're a relatively nimble agency.

385
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,360
so when you see a problem, you know, let us know,
Because, you know, we have limited resources,

386
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,760
but we if we don't know, we're definitely not going to get to it. So even if you feel like I just called you last week,
I'm calling you again.

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00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,120
right. We need to know that it continues to be a problem. And it wasn't a one off. Thank you. And I, you know,
Just for the public to go on record,

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00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,000
you have been extremely as you hear the comments from my colleagues,
Your agency has been hands on,

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00:47:34,770 --> 00:47:34,770
boots on the ground and we I personally appreciate the contact and interface.

390
00:47:40,810 --> 00:47:40,810
so thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you. Member rogers.

391
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:46,850
thank you, madam chair. I will ditto the comments made by my colleagues.

392
00:47:52,690 --> 00:47:52,690
also, it's all about collaboration. If you need us,
We're there for you and we need you and you're there for us.

393
00:48:00,330 --> 00:48:00,330
so you're going to help me address a concern with our utility locations and relocation.

394
00:48:07,890 --> 00:48:07,890
can you elaborate, what can we do to get these 30 year old poles out of our communities
And off that beautiful state road

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00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:17,850
07, the most traveled roadway in broward county?

396
00:48:22,170 --> 00:48:22,170
how do we get those old, wooded, peacock infested,
I mean, whatever grows on these

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00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:32,110
wooden trees. Tell me, how do we work together and even going forward,
What are we putting in policy to address it so we don't repeat what we've

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00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:41,750
done for the past 30 to 40 years? So we don't directly maintain,
Right, the power system.

399
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:48,390
so we work with fpl like you all work with fpl or try to work with fpl.

400
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:58,910
did I say collaboration? You help me, I help you. Is your roadway. I'm. I'm just trying to get there.

401
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:02,030
a unified approach to working with fpl. You know,
We do have a utility coordinator.

402
00:49:08,510 --> 00:49:08,510
katie mclean at our office. You can certainly reach out to him.

403
00:49:13,390 --> 00:49:13,390
I am not, you know, an expert on utilities, but I do know it.

404
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:17,990
the communities want to see it buried, right? We see it going in different,
Different areas are getting their power buried.

405
00:49:24,990 --> 00:49:28,790
it's not always possible in an urban environment. There's a lot of stuff underground. So we'll work with you to try and make it happen.

406
00:49:31,330 --> 00:49:31,330
but I don't have a silver bullet for you today.

407
00:49:35,530 --> 00:49:35,530
I'm sorry. Thank you. Just wanted to put it on record again.

408
00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:39,730
policies will help us in the future. And that's what we're looking for because they are
There over 40 years.

409
00:49:46,610 --> 00:49:50,490
and you just keep putting more polls and more polls. And it's not it's, you know, not pleasing. All right,
That's it, madam chair.

410
00:49:57,250 --> 00:49:57,250
thank you very much. Member cooper has a quick follow up on that.

411
00:50:01,410 --> 00:50:03,850
yes. Thank you, commissioner, I want to be brief. I just had a meeting about undergrounding, and I'd like to work collaboratively with you
Or all of us jointly.

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00:50:12,010 --> 00:50:12,010
there are policy changes with fpl and a six month window.

413
00:50:17,770 --> 00:50:17,770
however, fpl is still working in silos, and they've changed their public records,
Which are more difficult to get now.

414
00:50:26,690 --> 00:50:26,690
so I'll work with you and whoever else wants some information.

415
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:34,220
maybe to collaborate to get those silos broken down. Thank you for that. We do have a virtual hand raised.

416
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:38,220
board member furr. Thank you. Chair. I thank you for the presentation,
But I do want to, you know,

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00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:46,460
I'm very disappointed that the us 27 was not being funded.

418
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:51,900
and you mentioned that there was not unanimity in and among the regional planning councils
And among

419
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:04,460
septic. And I have to disagree with you on that. Both, the septic has voted and passed a resolution in favor of rail in favor of the us 27
Being funded as

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00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:14,180
has both the south florida regional planning council and the treasure coast.

421
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:18,580
both have said they think this is important for the region.

422
00:51:22,820 --> 00:51:22,820
when we're looking at. And I'm going to follow with mayor trantalis and commissioner
Shuham.

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00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:29,480
the need for rail is, you know, is important and having u.s.27 be able to take some of the
Fr8

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00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:40,160
as well as for miami dade and broward, maybe taking trash northward that those both those
Things are important.

425
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:48,880
I've talked to director braun on this and he,
You know, he was a I guess he thought he would he didn't want to or he didn't want us to

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00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,320
go down a path that wouldn't get funded later. And it looks like we may have to try to figure out how to do a p3,
But this is just showing a bias from the from the state that they don't want to see rail

427
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,000
or and transit. And it's and it's disappointing from our region because I think we
Recognize how important that is for the benefits of this

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00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:21,720
county. I just wanted to put that on record. There is not a disagreement between the
Regional planning councils and seftc for the need of this.

429
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:30,780
thank you, thank you, thank you. Member good.

430
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:36,700
yes, thank you, madam chair. And I too would like to just follow up a little bit with
County commissioner rogers comment about

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00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:46,420
collaboration. So I do understand that there's a feeling sometimes of having your hands
Tied because you have fp&l,

432
00:52:55,540 --> 00:52:55,540
which is a private utility, but yet they have certain rights to be within rights of ways.

433
00:53:03,020 --> 00:53:06,380
but the issue that she brings up is a very real issue. It's been existing. I think all of us will recognize that,
You know, these poles, you know,

434
00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:12,820
when there's a hardening project that comes along it takes forever to get the other poles
That are being decommissioned,

435
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:22,460
so to say, removed. And they create. It's not just esthetics,
But there are also sometimes safety issues because now you've made the corridor a little

436
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:34,710
bit more dense with, you know, these type of structures. So you know, working with the fp&l surely is difficult.

437
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:39,150
but I can tell you from a municipal level, you know,
We are engaged, at least the city of pembroke pines is engaged in trying

438
00:53:48,950 --> 00:53:48,950
to address this problem, but we're restricted to local roads,
Roads that we own.

439
00:53:56,030 --> 00:53:59,790
those are the only ones we can really kind of put a lot of effort on. The county has county roads, and so those are the only roads that they can be focused on.

440
00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:04,510
but the state also has state roads. And this word about collaboration makes good sense
When you talk about each of these different level

441
00:54:14,670 --> 00:54:14,670
of government agencies having responsibilities for these different right of ways.

442
00:54:19,710 --> 00:54:19,710
and I really think that the conversation should be this is where we're representing all
That tri level of agencies.

443
00:54:28,130 --> 00:54:28,130
then maybe we should be talking about this now at the mpo,
You know, and trying to create maybe even a subcommittee where the states,

444
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:35,650
you know, is collaborating with the county, which is collaborating with the municipal
Governments,

445
00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:42,450
which then can take this issue to fp&l, because the only other way to deal with this is to
Take it to state.

446
00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:49,730
now there is a law. Believe it or not, which everybody can actually put a little pressure
On fp&l because there's a requirement that once

447
00:54:59,730 --> 00:54:59,730
they've hardened and they've, and fp&l has transferred their power lines,
They have a certain period of time to move these

448
00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:10,090
poles. But nobody has put that pressure on the fpl,
The private agency.

449
00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:18,170
so I think this is a good opportunity for us to collaborate collectively in this forum to
Bring forward to a private agency or a private utility and

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00:55:28,110 --> 00:55:31,510
remind them of the importance of being able to remove. And it's not just fpl because it's at&t, it's comcast,
It's anybody else who has a wire on these poles.

451
00:55:40,990 --> 00:55:40,990
and that is where some of the issues become. So let's not get focused just on fpl,
But let's focus on all the utilities that are using these poles.

452
00:55:49,390 --> 00:55:49,390
so I, I do believe that county commissioner rogers has got you know,
A good vision on this where she talks about collaboration.

453
00:55:57,390 --> 00:56:00,110
and I too, would like to see that moving forward. And I would like my colleagues that we all talk about this going forward into the next
Year.

454
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:06,230
thank you, madam chair. Thank you. Member lonergan.

455
00:56:12,190 --> 00:56:12,190
thank you, madam chair. I appreciate that. I just want to say I am thankful for the
Partnership and your leadership.

456
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:19,080
I, I just wanted to say when mayor trantalis was speaking,
I do believe we need a greater emphasis on mass transit.

457
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:27,280
it is our future. Tri rail is critical. We need to get the vehicles off the roads.

458
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:32,200
we need to reduce emissions. So just encourage smart investment in our future.

459
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:38,280
appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you very much.

460
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:42,320
and thank you to everyone who made all the comments that they made.

461
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:48,240
there is a there is a lot to to take back. You do have a lot to take back.

462
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:53,840
and the mass transit issue I think it is very it is very important.

463
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:01,560
but to follow up on the utilities, because member goode is correct,
It's not just fp&l and there are a number of,

464
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:09,800
of issues with that. I know I in my city, at one point we just started to have meetings
With all of the utility companies

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00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:19,740
that do work in our cities because they're just a lot of different things,
Whether it's what they leave behind or not given notification when they're coming

466
00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:29,940
to do work in our in our private communities or in our city in general.

467
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:36,860
there are a lot of issues, so. I think if there's any way that we can collaborate and,
You know,

468
00:57:41,820 --> 00:57:41,820
if mpo can maybe work with some of the municipalities or with the state,
You know, just kind of get everybody together,

469
00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:49,940
I think it will be a good thing. It would really be beneficial to to all of us.

470
00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:53,980
so with that, I say, thank you so much. And I don't know if we want to give any specific
Instructions other than maybe for mpo to maybe look into it and,

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00:58:03,380 --> 00:58:03,380
and get back to us and see what can be done or make some suggestions on that.

472
00:58:09,860 --> 00:58:09,860
I know the state is saying we may want to speak to our state elected officials as well.

473
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:16,480
and that's probably a good idea for us to emphasize what's important in our community to
Our state elected officials as well.

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00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,720
thank you. Member cooper has another comment. Last comment, just as a follow up, because I didn't want to go down the whole path,
But I would love to again,

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00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:33,320
I offered to work collaboratively because I literally just went through this issue,
But I think it says volumes,

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00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:38,720
even for whoever would be technical on your staff,
Because it is a shared responsibility.

477
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:45,560
and there's power in numbers, but I think we'll figure out something maybe.

478
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:52,120
and, you know, outside of this board to discuss it,
Maybe a separate task force, because the follow up is

479
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,560
municipalities are the ones that will have to follow suit. Just so you. Yeah, it's a longer story than that.

480
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:08,280
so I'll work and maybe with brian or figure out what we can do to get something moving on
It,

481
00:59:15,050 --> 00:59:17,490
because we've talked about it, I think every meeting. And thank you again, commissioner rogers, for your tenacity on this issue.

482
00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:22,970
appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you for the presentation and all your responses
And responsiveness,

483
00:59:30,610 --> 00:59:33,810
because I've heard a lot of a good stuff as well. So thank you so much. Me, I have a motion on this item.

484
00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:45,890
we have a motion and a second. Electronic voting please.

485
01:00:07,610 --> 01:00:07,610
communications. Okay. Motion passes.

486
01:00:19,710 --> 01:00:19,710
item number 2. Yes, madam chair, this is a motion to approve the florida turnpike
Enterprise (fte) draft tentative five-year work program for fiscal

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01:00:29,590 --> 01:00:29,590
year (fy) 2027 to 2031. James brown, that is me.

488
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:40,390
you are recognized. Thank you very much, madam chair. Members of the board. We weren't looking for you,
Though.

489
01:00:43,110 --> 01:00:46,390
just want you to know. I know, and it's it's not an alias. And I'm a junior. I love it. I've had some fun with this name.

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01:00:54,510 --> 01:00:57,190
I am the mpo liaison of florida's turnpike enterprise. I am here this morning to present our work program for fiscal years 27 to 31.

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01:01:04,590 --> 01:01:04,590
this is a picture depicting the turnpike looking south towards the hard rock casino around
Griffin road.

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01:01:11,010 --> 01:01:11,010
we are allocating a little over $1 billion here in broward county over the next five years
In projects.

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01:01:18,970 --> 01:01:18,970
speaking of our facilities in broward county,
We have a total of 56 lane miles of facility that encompasses three different facilities.

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01:01:27,050 --> 01:01:27,050
our turnpike mainline/state road 91. The southern portion,
State road 821 going down towards the miami dade county line,

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01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:38,930
and then 22 miles of the sawgrass expressway. Total facilities statewide 520 miles. We are located in 21 florida counties and in all
Seven fdot districts.

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01:01:49,570 --> 01:01:53,330
we wanted to showcase the investment of your toll dollars. This is a project at atlantic and sawgrass, the interchange improvements along sawgrass
Expressway at atlantic boulevard.

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01:02:00,570 --> 01:02:00,570
that project started in fiscal year 23. It is anticipated finish end of this year,
Which is 4 months ahead of schedule,

498
01:02:09,420 --> 01:02:09,420
so we're happy to announce that. The construction cost for that project was 85 million.

499
01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:15,420
and we are happy to announce that the visitors can now enjoy the sawgrass trailhead at
Atlantic newly reconstructed road parking lot.

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01:02:24,020 --> 01:02:24,020
it was raised to resiliency new guardrails, and we put in additional parking spaces there.

501
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:32,700
in your handout, the summary of projects, I just wanted to give a quick overview to
Navigate through that.

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01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:39,020
the page one, it always is current projects,
Those in construction now details what's going on here in district 4.

503
01:02:48,820 --> 01:02:48,820
page 4 gets into the projects which have allocated construction funds for broward county.

504
01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:58,940
I will slip in a page 16. It's your map of broward county. So it's a nice snapshot, gives all the projects location,
Fiscal year of allocation.

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01:03:04,340 --> 01:03:04,340
and then page 19. I'll get into that towards the end of my presentation.

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01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:08,560
those are any projects that are not currently funded for construction,
But they do have the additional phases of either a pd&e study that's going to kick off or

507
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:18,160
designer right away. So now I'll start with the project overview.

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:25,520
just some highlights of those major projects allocated for with construction funds in this
Fiscal year.

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:31,080
work program fiscal year 27 to 31. Starting at the bottom.

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01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:35,800
this is widening of the turnpike mainline, down we refer to it as the spur,
Going down towards miami-dade,

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,840
broward county line. This is just the section n. Of the ggi (golden glades interchange). Widening there from 6 to 8 lanes and construction
Allocated in fiscal year 27.

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01:03:53,533 --> 01:03:53,533
moving north to the parking and improvements at pompano beach service plaza.

513
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:01,680
we are looking at all 8 of our service plazas right now as far as what we can do to
Improve the deficit statewide with regard to parking,

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01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:11,420
truck parking specifically. You'll see in this five-year work program for district 4 we
Have funds allocated to the pompano beach service plaza

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01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:21,420
as well as fort pierce. So the goal is to increase the number of truck parking facilities
There to make the in and out of the facility easier,

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01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:30,900
and that is allocated for fiscal year 31. Moving up to the improvements the interchange at
Coconut creek parkway.

517
01:04:40,580 --> 01:04:40,580
we are happy with regard to this project as far as it's going to completely enhance the
Movements of that interchange.

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01:04:48,980 --> 01:04:52,380
we're going to have a new direct connect to the northbound from blount road. So all those trucks getting on to the turnpike mainline going northbound don't will not
Have to interact with mlk boulevard there.

519
01:05:02,030 --> 01:05:02,030
we're going to look at a designated south on ramp or to go south,
And it's going to enhance the capacity and truck movements in that

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01:05:11,550 --> 01:05:11,550
corridor. Which is fiscal year 29 allocated for the construction.

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the next six I'll go through page two and page three. These all refer to segments of the sawgrass expressway widening.

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01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:26,230
and you'll see that some of these with regard to construction fundings in later years.

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01:05:31,830 --> 01:05:31,830
those are residual construction allocated that may need to have something put in place to
Finish the project.

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01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:41,110
so a lot of these segments are currently in construction. And then we've allocated funds in later years once the entire facility has been widened,
To go back and to see what we may need to do restriping etc..

525
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:50,390
but starting from the bottom, you're looking at sawgrass expressway,
Nw 8th street to s.

526
01:05:55,070 --> 01:05:55,070
of sunrise. That segment again is a remaining expenditure fiscal year 29.

527
01:06:01,050 --> 01:06:01,050
next segment is sunrise to oakland park. This interacts with several interchanges,
As well as the partnership project with broward county and the city of

528
01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:10,930
sunrise for the past salerno interchange. And you're looking at construction in fiscal
Years 27,

529
01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:16,690
29, 31. Large project, $363 million being allocated towards this segment.

530
01:06:24,530 --> 01:06:28,250
and then moving n. Sawgrass/oakland park to s. Of atlantic. And again, this is similar to the first where it's a remaining expenditure in
A later year,

531
01:06:34,530 --> 01:06:34,530
fiscal year 29. Now looking towards the northern part of the sawgrass expressway,
We have sample to

532
01:06:43,810 --> 01:06:43,810
university. This segment would include improvements to coral ridge drive.

533
01:06:49,090 --> 01:06:52,770
we're looking at a diverging diamond interchange improvement there. These are also remaining expenditures. Construction is in this fiscal year for this
Segment allocated for $130 million.

534
01:07:03,470 --> 01:07:03,470
next is the university to us-441. Again, this would include improvements to the university
Interchange and fiscal year

535
01:07:13,470 --> 01:07:13,470
27, fiscal year 30, 159 million. And then moving on towards the 441 to e of turnpike.

536
01:07:22,670 --> 01:07:22,670
this segment includes ramp improvements at us 441,
Lyons road and at the turnpike.

537
01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:30,790
the ultimate goal at the state road 91 - turnpike and the sawgrass is to have all 8
Movements,

538
01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:38,430
so that kind of starts initiating the construction of that.

539
01:07:46,910 --> 01:07:46,910
these three projects again refer to sawgrass,
But they refer to towards the end of the project as far as when we need to go back and

540
01:07:55,070 --> 01:07:58,600
restripe, stripe. You'll notice that we're doing the widening in segments. So we may widen the segment to ten lanes but corresponding segments not been widened yet.

541
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,800
so once everything is done we go back and we restripe. These allocations are for those fiscal years as far as going back and making sure that
Everything is continuous.

542
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:17,240
now I'm going to discuss the projects that I refer to on page 19 of your summary,
Which involve any phases not funded for construction.

543
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:28,680
and I'll begin with going from the top. You have a future widening of the turnpike
Mainline.

544
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:36,280
this is a pd&e study that's going to kick off fiscal year 28 allocated at 4.5 million.

545
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,040
this is to look at pretty much anything s. Of 595. We've completed our pd&e study 595 to giles. This is the southern part of that.

546
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:52,840
so we're looking at 595 down to the to the spur.

547
01:08:58,060 --> 01:08:58,060
next we're looking at the ramp improvements on turnpike at griffin road.

548
01:09:02,420 --> 01:09:02,420
and this involves the northbound on ramp. This is allocated for design in fiscal year 31.

549
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:12,020
next is the segment 595 - state road 84 to sunrise.

550
01:09:19,260 --> 01:09:19,260
so really kind of where all everything connects at 595 and turnpike mainline going to
Sunrise boulevard.

551
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:25,260
that would also look at improvements of the sunrise boulevard interchange.

552
01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:30,380
and that's allocated in the fiscal year 29. The next I'd like to showcase,
We're happy to announce to the board that the

553
01:09:40,260 --> 01:09:43,100
interchange improvements at oakland park boulevard. We're looking to do a new interchange. It's greatly needed as a reliever to the
Interchanges north and s.

554
01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:49,860
commercial and sunrise. We have advanced the design funding by two years.

555
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:55,840
originally, this was part of the segment of the widening that we've actually going to look
At the improvements at the interchange first,

556
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,480
and it's going to have a rock island road realignment. So it's going to align those intersections. It's also going to be widened,
Or the improvements are going to be made to accommodate for the future widening as well.

557
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:21,080
and then the next segment is commercial to atlantic boulevard fiscal year 27.

558
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:28,560
this segment is currently in design. This is a residual amount to finish that.

559
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:33,840
we're actually looking at the cypress creek partial interchange within this segment that
Would include a northbound on and a southbound off.

560
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:46,000
and wrapping up the information with regard to these projects not funded for construction.

561
01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:52,370
we're looking at the going from the top down.

562
01:10:56,410 --> 01:10:56,410
the atlantic boulevard to sample road. This is allocated for fiscal year 29.

563
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:06,490
and again, this is looking at the improvements on the main line. Next segment would be sample to wiles. Wiles to broward/palm beach county line.

564
01:11:13,970 --> 01:11:17,730
and then the last one there is a pd&e study,
Fiscal year 28. It's looking at the main the main line pretty much from the broward county line/palm beach
County line up to glades road.

565
01:11:25,850 --> 01:11:29,530
I will mention sawgrass expressway to glades. It's just the most logical terminus that pd&e for that section,
Sawgrass to the palm beach county line was covered in the previous

566
01:11:39,130 --> 01:11:39,130
pd&e, but just for the logical terminus for that segment.

567
01:11:43,570 --> 01:11:43,570
but again, that's looking at that continuous widening into palm beach.

568
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:55,390
and I'll also end our presentation with a safety note. Last week was national teen driver safety week.

569
01:11:58,990 --> 01:11:58,990
it was dedicated to addressing the high rates of car crashes amongst our teens.

570
01:12:03,870 --> 01:12:07,430
so it is the leading cause of death for this age group. And it really aims at educating our teams, parents,
Communities about safe driving behaviors.

571
01:12:13,510 --> 01:12:13,510
put the phone down. And with that, I'll open it up to any questions.

572
01:12:21,230 --> 01:12:21,230
thank you so much for your presentation. We do have a question from member welch.

573
01:12:31,390 --> 01:12:31,390
you're good. Okay. Thank you very much. And I too was surprised when you came forward with
Your namesake.

574
01:12:39,710 --> 01:12:42,270
so it adds a little levity to the to the presentation. But thank you for your presentation. I just did want to note,
If you can go back to, the previous slide on page two of two.

575
01:12:51,130 --> 01:12:51,130
I think that was the one. And I do want to address the top three projects,
Especially in regard,

576
01:12:59,530 --> 01:12:59,530
if, because it appears in the pd&e study prior to this,
The whole nemesis for

577
01:13:09,090 --> 01:13:09,090
widening the turnpike in these specific areas prior to this was due to safety,
Frequent crash

578
01:13:18,770 --> 01:13:18,770
occurrences at the interchanges. Well, given that those interchanges at coconut creek
Parkway,

579
01:13:26,570 --> 01:13:26,570
I just I have to disclose, I got a one-on-one presentation with one of our citizen
Advisory board members and someone from your staff about that

580
01:13:36,530 --> 01:13:36,530
the enhancements that have been made there, and it's very exciting,
Because what's happening there now is,

581
01:13:42,450 --> 01:13:42,450
is certainly a disaster ready to happen. So my point is then we go on up to sample and
Then on up to the interchange for sawgrass

582
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:52,140
expressway and the turnpike. And it appears that we're still considering the widening the
Turnpike from the current 6

583
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:02,010
to 10. Not taking into account that the pd&e study cited those particular interchanges and
That

584
01:14:12,860 --> 01:14:12,860
they were responsible for a lot of frequency of accidents.

585
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:18,900
so now that they're going to be much improved,
There's no longer a need in my mind, and according to our staff,

586
01:14:29,340 --> 01:14:29,340
that we need to expand these particular project areas from the current 6 to 10,
But rather 8.

587
01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:40,980
so I would like to make a friendly amendment if I can get a second to in these particular
Projects to ensure that

588
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:50,760
they are from widening from 6 to 8 rather than the proposed 10 in the project.

589
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:58,080
and if you may, I can speak to that first segment,
The atlantic to sample road.

590
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:03,440
that does include the segment that was going to be a phased approach from atlantic to
Cowpens.

591
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:11,960
that segment will be widened to 8 lanes until service of level d is achieved.

592
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,880
and then the ultimate plan is to widen to 10. But I did want to point that out that that was that segment that we had worked with our
Stakeholders on as far as having a phased approach

593
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,240
there. But again, I just wanted to point that out. Well, I just want to be sure that I'm hearing you correctly.

594
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:36,880
so the project from sample road to wiles is the one that is,
The only one that's being considered

595
01:15:46,860 --> 01:15:46,860
for phase 6 to 8. No, it would be the segment,
The atlantic to sample road.

596
01:15:54,820 --> 01:15:54,820
part of that segment, a snapshot of it, atlantic to copans,
We're looking at a phased approach to 8 lanes first in that segment.

597
01:16:01,060 --> 01:16:04,380
well, it doesn't have atlantic to copans in here,
It has atlantic. No, that's correct. It's within that segment. So it's a piece of that segment.

598
01:16:07,940 --> 01:16:07,940
what about the following two? The following two would be to 10 lanes.

599
01:16:11,980 --> 01:16:11,980
that's the plan for those segments, yeah. Well then I would like to amend that it not
Include 6 to 10 but rather 6

600
01:16:21,780 --> 01:16:21,780
to 8 if I have a second. Okay. Thank you very much.

601
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:28,260
thank you. Okay. Mr. Attorney, do we need to vote on that?

602
01:16:34,620 --> 01:16:34,620
I do have another speaker. The motion has been made and it has been seconded,
But you might want to ask the speaker,

603
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:43,110
the presenter what the implications might be,
Just so that the board is aware of what that could be.

604
01:16:49,070 --> 01:16:49,070
all right. Can I hold off on the motion for right now,
Until we have until we have the speakers on it?

605
01:17:01,310 --> 01:17:01,310
go ahead. Thank you for indulging me. I certainly am not suggesting that I'm opposing any
Of the interchange improvements,

606
01:17:10,430 --> 01:17:10,430
because I fully understand the reasoning behind them.

607
01:17:14,870 --> 01:17:14,870
I drive it, I experience it, but so my premise was not that,
But it was based on your own pd&e studies.

608
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:29,230
okay. Thank you, madam chair. Thank. Thank you for that. I do have another speaker. I'm going to have member lonergan speak,
And then we'll have

609
01:17:39,330 --> 01:17:42,050
we'll have you respond. Thank you. Member lonergan. Thank you, madam chair. I appreciate that. One question I have is,
Is looking at the presentation,

610
01:17:47,850 --> 01:17:47,850
is there or is there not the possibility. Are you looking at an exit entrance at oakland
Park boulevard?

611
01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:59,170
yes. You are? Yes. And what's the timeline on that? What's the status of that? That's been funded for design in fiscal year 27.

612
01:18:03,690 --> 01:18:03,690
so we were able to kind of accelerate that by two years.

613
01:18:07,930 --> 01:18:07,930
it's a needed like I said, it's a needed reliever to the north and south exits of
Commercial and sunrise.

614
01:18:13,730 --> 01:18:16,970
but that is going to be a full interchange. Excellent. I am actually very happy to hear that. This is kind of a double edged sword.

615
01:18:20,490 --> 01:18:20,490
it does bring vehicle traffic into the the local cities right there.

616
01:18:26,330 --> 01:18:26,330
but on the other hand, it also helps support our hotels and our businesses and,
And restaurants.

617
01:18:31,690 --> 01:18:31,690
so I think that that is very important to actually have an exit entrance at oakland park
Boulevard.

618
01:18:38,150 --> 01:18:38,150
I also have some concerns that the turnpike and I understand the purpose of the turnpike.

619
01:18:43,750 --> 01:18:43,750
but we're only looking at one type of transportation that's vehicular.

620
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:48,550
I really think, you know, if we're looking at the future here to we're trying to get
People out on their bikes and other methods.

621
01:18:55,670 --> 01:18:59,430
I think, you know, the turnpike, all we've been focusing on is vehicles. And that's only one method of transportation.

622
01:19:02,270 --> 01:19:02,270
I think if we really want to get serious, we need to look at maybe putting a bike trail on
One side of it.

623
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:10,990
we need to look at greening. Greening up the turnpike. It's it's subpar. And I think there's a lot of opportunities.

624
01:19:16,030 --> 01:19:16,030
so as we look at the presentation we see widening widening widening,
Widening.

625
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:20,950
we're really not seeing a lot really beautify it and to make it multi-purpose.

626
01:19:25,230 --> 01:19:25,230
so in the future, anything you can do to reimagine what we see as currently just a roadway
For vehicles,

627
01:19:32,550 --> 01:19:32,550
turnpike, anything we can do to enhance that would be appreciated.

628
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,760
thank you. Thank you very much. If you would,
Please. Mr. Brown, go ahead and let us know what the implication of the amendment will be.

629
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,880
yeah, sure. This is carol scott, our planning and environment manager. And she will speak to that. You're recognized.

630
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:53,360
carol. Thank you very much, madam chair. So a quick recap on the project development
Environment study that we completed last year that looked

631
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,000
at the segment of the turnpike from 595 to wiles road. And we look at the year of need, and not just with safety,
But also with traffic need.

632
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:16,160
and that's all the way to 2045. And there are segments of this facility in particular s.

633
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:24,200
of atlantic and also in that same area that we're talking about where the amendment is to
Make it 8 lanes.

634
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,000
we have a year of need in 2025 for ten lanes in some of this corridor.

635
01:20:37,140 --> 01:20:37,140
we have a year of need for 10 lanes in 2040,
In other parts of the corridor.

636
01:20:42,300 --> 01:20:42,300
so there is definitely a traffic need. We don't want to widen our road if there's not a
Need because we have a lot of needs.

637
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:48,700
as you can see, we have a lot of design projects,
Interchanges, new interchanges that we also want to provide.

638
01:20:54,220 --> 01:20:54,220
so there is there is year of need and just for traffic alone in addition to the safety.

639
01:21:01,980 --> 01:21:01,980
and so I think, I think that was my main point.

640
01:21:07,660 --> 01:21:07,660
and so with the, with that one section between atlantic and copans,
We did you know, we made a pd&e commitment

641
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:18,100
with consideration with coconut creek, that segment,
Just because it's just s.

642
01:21:23,820 --> 01:21:23,820
of the sawgrass interchange and just with that traffic,
That little segment right there didn't have the year of need for 10 lanes until 2040.

643
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:32,040
estimated, right. So that was when we said, okay,
Well, we can phase that to 8 lanes and then we'll monitor the traffic when the traffic

644
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:41,040
reaches level of service d, which is not quite failing,
But when it's getting uncomfortable for the drivers to drive.

645
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:49,040
that's when we'll have to notify and move forward with a with a design to widen it to ten.

646
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,600
and that's that. That's kind of the implications. So, to be clear, it's currently how many lanes?

647
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:07,280
6. 6. Yes. So. And the amendment is to make it to 8 instead of 10.

648
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:16,760
and the implication, is it for certain area specific that needs that

649
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:26,280
expansion to 10 this year you said. The implication is that we would not be able to widen
The turnpike wide enough where it's

650
01:22:35,890 --> 01:22:35,890
needed. So that's, you know, so we would be investing money and drivers would be stuck in
Traffic because we're not able to widen to

651
01:22:45,730 --> 01:22:45,730
10 lanes. Okay. Mr. Caletka, do you have any comments you would like to make on this
Before we take it to a vote?

652
01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:55,530
I will say that I was at mpoac last week with you,
Madam chair as our voting member.

653
01:23:02,610 --> 01:23:02,610
and it was revealed through conversations with executive directors around the state of
Florida that some

654
01:23:13,810 --> 01:23:13,810
districts provide to their mpo instead of having a vote,
They just give them an informational item.

655
01:23:22,010 --> 01:23:22,010
and that may be a consequence of what happens in the future as a result of this vote.

656
01:23:35,190 --> 01:23:35,190
so as a result of this vote, you're saying that they may just not ask for our input at
This level?

657
01:23:43,150 --> 01:23:43,150
they'll just bring it to us and tell us what is it they're going to do?

658
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:49,510
that was what several executive directors did make a comment on at that meeting that we
Attended last week.

659
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:57,270
at that meeting. I also will say that mpos are made up of local elected officials,
And that's the key part.

660
01:24:06,670 --> 01:24:06,670
so that way, people in washington, d.c., and people in tallahassee are not making
Decisions for you.

661
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:15,230
exactly. So this is at your purview of how you want to proceed. All right. Very well. I do have some other comments before we take a vote on it.

662
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:20,390
I have 3. Member jaffe. Thank you chair. Mr. Brown.

663
01:24:29,650 --> 01:24:32,010
am I on the right page here for the projects? Going back to the presentation we're talking about.

664
01:24:35,810 --> 01:24:35,810
the first fpid 77-1,-3 from atlantic to sample that is projected to go from 6 to 8 lanes,
Is that correct?

665
01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:46,970
which one did you reference again? The first project on the line there.

666
01:24:51,890 --> 01:24:51,890
that one is projected to go from 6 to 8 lanes.

667
01:24:56,570 --> 01:24:56,570
correct. Okay. And then my colleague said that the next two are projected to go from 6 to
10 lanes.

668
01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:06,770
we've discussed this many times in the past. Going back to the,
You're saying you also mentioned that going from 6

669
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:16,250
to 10 on the next two projects, 78 and 114 those are based upon,
Are phased in

670
01:25:26,300 --> 01:25:26,300
a phase of traffic assessment after the initial project on the first phase is completed.

671
01:25:33,220 --> 01:25:33,220
is that what you're. You had indicated that it's not 100% sure you're going to 10.

672
01:25:38,020 --> 01:25:38,020
it's based upon a phase, after phase one that you look at the traffic flow.

673
01:25:42,940 --> 01:25:42,940
is that incorrect? You're speaking to the same section that carol just referred to as far
As that phased approach from atlantic to copans?

674
01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:53,340
yes. When you mean phased approach, do you mean it's 100%? You decide 100% that you're going from 6 to 10 or during that determination period,
You based upon the traffic and the conditions,

675
01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:00,780
the agency might decide to, only that they only need 8 lanes based upon the forecast or if
They change,

676
01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:07,260
is that correct? Right, the caveat to that is the need is not until 2040.

677
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:12,300
so we're looking at phasing that, at which point the traffic starts to increase the level
Of.

678
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:19,300
on the projections from the current to that time period,
Could that be addressed in these two projects that instead of having a definite going from

679
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:28,960
6 to 10 on that phase and it could be looked at the same response and the same way you're
Looking at the first project where the phase in is only going from 6 to 8 based upon the

680
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:38,520
past conditions and the future projection. If I may so the sections north of that are
Closer to the sawgrass expressway,

681
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:48,400
so 10 lanes are needed because that's where also in that area you have the sawgrass
Expressway.

682
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:56,200
then you have dot district 4s. Sw 10th street.

683
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:01,200
there's sw 10th street connector project. So it's a very large system to system
Interchange.

684
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:06,560
so, these 10 lanes are needed also because there's a lot of traffic and ingress and
Egress,

685
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,760
so that's why we need to stick to 10 lanes up. Right. But those that 10 lanes is based upon current projections at that time.

686
01:27:23,460 --> 01:27:23,460
yes. Would there be some type of contingency that you could look at that projection?

687
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:30,100
you know, these are not projects that are going to be done right away. They're in the
Future,

688
01:27:34,540 --> 01:27:34,540
right? It's the traffic, but it's also traffic related to what's upstream.

689
01:27:40,180 --> 01:27:40,180
so that interchange and the interaction between the sw 10th street and the sawgrass
Project.

690
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:46,100
okay. Thank you. Member mallozzi, followed by member welch and member sorensen.

691
01:27:54,820 --> 01:27:54,820
so, two things, mr. Chair. Acting chair. Mr. Caletka,
Can you tell me if I'm wrong in my understanding of what

692
01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:04,700
you said? If the vote goes according to plan,
We will have an option in the

693
01:28:14,540 --> 01:28:14,540
future to continue to vote. If for some reason we don't go along with what's presented and
We speak out,

694
01:28:23,070 --> 01:28:26,430
then that's going to be taken away from us, potentially. Just a yes or no will suffice. Yes. Okay. So then would I be rude in saying that we're
Basically just being placated as long as we

695
01:28:36,350 --> 01:28:36,350
get along and give everything that is presented to us.

696
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:41,030
because if we say no or we offer any objections,
Then potentially our voices will not be heard and it's just going to be a

697
01:28:50,710 --> 01:28:50,710
presentation for information only. Am I correct in my understanding or?

698
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:56,950
I wouldn't say placated, I mean, we saw at the last meeting that there was an alternative
Motion and there was a denial.

699
01:29:03,870 --> 01:29:03,870
we'll get to that later. Yes. Yes, ma'am. But,
So here's my question.

700
01:29:09,310 --> 01:29:09,310
well, and now this would be directed towards I can't say your name without putting an
Accent on it,

701
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:13,910
but thank you. Don't make me do it. So where the years in question that we are talking is
2040.

702
01:29:23,530 --> 01:29:23,530
now, you've heard in the beginning part of this meeting,
Several members stating that we would like to see and the trend and where we're

703
01:29:33,450 --> 01:29:33,450
where the world is heading is mass transit. Everybody here said it.

704
01:29:40,450 --> 01:29:44,250
well, not everybody, but that's the consensus I think you can understand. So you're looking at something that is several years ahead,
And I understand that you have to plan for that.

705
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:51,090
but if we have our way, we are planning for the future with the planet and everything,
And we want to increase people going on

706
01:30:00,650 --> 01:30:00,650
to trials, busses, etc. And decrease people going on to the roadways.

707
01:30:07,930 --> 01:30:07,930
does that make sense? And do you agree with. That's what our consensus is,
Sir, whose name I can't mention with a straight face.

708
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:15,430
I can speak to florida's turnpike enterprise as a limited access facility,
So it does serve a purpose to move people from one place to the other,

709
01:30:23,630 --> 01:30:26,390
it serves as a major evacuation route for the state. So there's some other factors. But as far as what our system projects as of,
You know, the year of

710
01:30:36,070 --> 01:30:36,070
projection, it does need to be widened to ten lanes,
As carol mentioned, in those, those segments around this,

711
01:30:42,990 --> 01:30:42,990
the sawgrass expressway n. So it's what we're projecting based on current.

712
01:30:50,070 --> 01:30:50,070
so here's the crux of my question, and thank you for your patience.

713
01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:55,030
I'm going to use the 595 as an example. Do you know how there's the arms that go up and
Down depending on where the express lane traffic is going to flow.

714
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:05,030
is it possible that something like that can go onto the turnpike for the express purpose
Of

715
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:15,240
traffic, you know, the high density times usually flow in one direction.

716
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:23,120
is it possible that we could have a lane that can go with the flow,
For lack of a better word?

717
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:30,080
so, I would need to dig into the research of our pd&e,
But there does need to be high directionality with the

718
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:39,760
traffic. For instance, 595 because everybody's coming into town from the and there is
There we do observe peak travel

719
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:49,960
on the turnpike n. And s., but it's not to the level of 595.

720
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:56,840
and so there was a need to do an overall widening and not implement,
You know, that's also an express lane project.

721
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,840
and so we don't have express lanes on the turnpike. So that's another thing, you know, that we had to factor in as well.

722
01:32:12,380 --> 01:32:12,380
thank you. Thank you both. Member welch. Thank you,
Madam chair.

723
01:32:18,420 --> 01:32:18,420
and I appreciate your comments member mallozzi.

724
01:32:23,580 --> 01:32:23,580
I was I have to say, I didn't even mention mass transit in the pd&e study or future
Technology

725
01:32:34,420 --> 01:32:34,420
in all that we are going to be transported. But getting back to what you said,
Mr.

726
01:32:41,740 --> 01:32:41,740
caletka, I just don't know why we're here, if that's the case.

727
01:32:45,860 --> 01:32:45,860
if we are not in a position to be able to raise a concern and based on information

728
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:55,700
that the agency has provided, I.e. The pd&e study for making considerations for these
Projects that we are voting

729
01:33:05,500 --> 01:33:05,500
on. I just honestly don't know why we're here,
Because if it just doesn't make sense, it,

730
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:14,320
and it really sounded like a threat. And I think that is I mean,
It just gives us to pause about what are we doing

731
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:24,040
here? I love what I'm. I love this board. I,
I thought mikkie belvedere did me a disservice by recommending that I be on it when she

732
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:33,280
went to retire. But you know what? She did me a great service because I found out more
About how we travel

733
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:43,120
in this, in our city, in our county, in our state,
And anywhere else we may travel and look at it through different lenses.

734
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:50,880
now that I never would have been able to do before,
And hopefully take that back to my community and make us as smarter community as a whole

735
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:59,600
in regard to transportation. But I now wonder why I'm here.

736
01:34:08,370 --> 01:34:08,370
thank. I don't know if you want to comment, but I'm just saying,
I stand by what I ask for the amendment.

737
01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:13,690
I think it was based on some knowledge and recommendations that this agency presented to
Me as a member.

738
01:34:22,170 --> 01:34:25,810
and I appreciate the second. So I'm going to stop. I thank you all for your comments. I do have two other speakers.

739
01:34:31,250 --> 01:34:31,250
I would like to say that we do have an amendment,
A first, a motion and a second on the board.

740
01:34:40,130 --> 01:34:43,290
if we can kind of keep the comment specifically to that. I think the comment that mr. Caletka made, it might have taken us back by a little bit,
But

741
01:34:53,250 --> 01:34:53,250
it was probably not necessarily meant so much as a threat.

742
01:34:58,010 --> 01:34:58,010
just kind of a comment. But if we could just concentrate if we could just focus on the
Amendment

743
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:08,390
itself. I mean, we are here. We do have an opportunity to vote on this and decide what we
If we want this amendment or not.

744
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:15,910
so if we can just stick to that. So, member sorensen.

745
01:35:30,710 --> 01:35:33,270
go ahead and press it again. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, madam chair. Thanks so much. So fdot team,
I'm new here, so some basic if we, when we make a motion or if something

746
01:35:42,790 --> 01:35:42,790
passes, does it have any binding or financial impact on you all?

747
01:35:49,550 --> 01:35:49,550
so florida's turnpike enterprise projects are,
We are self-funded with turnpike toll revenues and also the revenue

748
01:35:59,510 --> 01:36:02,750
bonds that we issue backed by those revenues. So we are in, broward mpo's transportation improvement plan and their lrtp for
Informational purposes only.

749
01:36:13,010 --> 01:36:13,010
so I don't want to get into what we would decide if,
If it was moved by the board that

750
01:36:23,010 --> 01:36:25,850
they would desire some of our projects to be 8 lanes. I don't think it is. I don't think I don't believe it turns into a mandate because of our
Funding source.

751
01:36:31,890 --> 01:36:34,890
so that's really all I can offer you. So. Right. That's what I that was my understanding. Okay.

752
01:36:37,050 --> 01:36:37,050
so, whether it's a motion or communication or discussion,
It's a, my understanding and brian,

753
01:36:42,850 --> 01:36:42,850
please correct me, is a suggestion is the collaborative effort that we're partners
Together.

754
01:36:48,250 --> 01:36:48,250
right. We're working together now and in perpetuity hopefully.

755
01:36:52,610 --> 01:36:52,610
so my view is that any communication, dialog,
Motion, whatever it might be, is a conversation for you all to hear from us.

756
01:36:59,850 --> 01:36:59,850
and then, you know, ultimately, I think you get to make whatever decision you think is
Appropriate,

757
01:37:04,460 --> 01:37:04,460
and the best thing for our community, is that,
I have that right?

758
01:37:08,500 --> 01:37:08,500
or. Yes, and we presented at length on this project about a year and a half ago,
Before the adoption of the transportation improvement program two

759
01:37:18,460 --> 01:37:18,460
fiscal years ago. And it was favorably received by the board.

760
01:37:22,700 --> 01:37:22,700
and that included the 10 lane widening. So I don't know if that reminder helps at all.

761
01:37:28,140 --> 01:37:28,140
but we we've had a lot of collaboration and coordination through that 4 or 5 year long
Pd&e study.

762
01:37:35,380 --> 01:37:35,380
and we really do believe that widening the turnpike to ten lanes is important.

763
01:37:42,460 --> 01:37:42,460
this is not a local facility. It's a, it's, you know,
It's part of the 312-mile spine of florida's turnpike that,

764
01:37:51,060 --> 01:37:54,500
you know, regions use, visitors use freight uses. And so you know, with, with the analysis and looking at the future,
We don't want to we don't want to project traffic just to 2030

765
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:04,720
because these are long, very expensive projects that are disruptive to the traveling
Public.

766
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:09,600
and so if we widen just to a shorter time horizon,
Then we're going to have to come back and disrupt folks,

767
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:17,360
you know, again. So that's why we have the longer time horizon when we look for the
Traffic need.

768
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:22,280
okay, so whether it's a motion or just the dialog,
You I think you're hearing loud and clear our concerns.

769
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:28,200
I don't know if a motion changes that communication to you all in some form or fashion.

770
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,440
I mean, it seems like you're understanding what we're saying. Yes,
Absolutely. Yeah. And does a motion strengthen that communication to you in a way that or?

771
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:45,920
we, every, whether it's a motion or not, we always take back every comment that we get at
Mpo meetings and we report this back to our leadership.

772
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,080
okay. All right. Thank you. Thanks, madam chair. Thank you. Member cooper. That was a follow up, actually.

773
01:39:02,300 --> 01:39:02,300
and I'm intrigued because obviously, being an enterprise fund,
Your funds are locked into your agency,

774
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:11,940
correct? They don't supplement any other fdot projects.

775
01:39:16,260 --> 01:39:16,260
your your own creation. You were created basically to connect miami to orlando.

776
01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:22,700
that was your. Yes. Reasoning. And our funds have very specific roles that we can only
Invest on the turnpike system.

777
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:33,500
it's, you know, we're not permitted to invest in transit.

778
01:39:38,020 --> 01:39:38,020
we do look at opportunities like, you know, in the future,
Maybe a bus lane.

779
01:39:44,220 --> 01:39:44,220
could be, you know, if the traffic or, you know,
With the through lanes that we have, we do provide a corridor for bus rapid transit busses

780
01:39:52,460 --> 01:39:55,980
down in miami. We have that with our through lanes down there. So we do what we can to, you know, we're that one tool in the toolbox.

781
01:40:00,750 --> 01:40:00,750
but we are self-funded and our revenues are with turnpike projects.

782
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:06,790
or, for instance, we're a partner with dot district 4 for the sw 10th street project,
Because that that connects to that very critical interchange up there.

783
01:40:16,430 --> 01:40:18,790
and so, you know, we partner with that as well. Right, and the follow up to that, because I lived through that for I've been on this board
For a while.

784
01:40:23,950 --> 01:40:23,950
so we lived through that. And I commend, I'm sorry you said well,
Board member welch, because being an advocate for her

785
01:40:33,230 --> 01:40:33,230
community and I guess we got tied into this conversation because we're not the only area
That's impacted by the turnpike.

786
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:42,310
sure we said we don't want you to be dumping additional traffic onto,
I guess it's hollywood boulevard and griffin

787
01:40:51,870 --> 01:40:51,870
because of the impact, adverse impact to our community,
So certainly we'd like to preserve that input.

788
01:41:00,450 --> 01:41:00,450
but certainly if something is happening, no matter what,
I think collectively you would hear from us.

789
01:41:07,610 --> 01:41:07,610
so why do you perceive that as a threat? I imagine you're dealing with other communities
North of us that are now experiencing

790
01:41:17,650 --> 01:41:17,650
those same expansions. So why, you know, thankfully,
I haven't had to stand in for

791
01:41:27,530 --> 01:41:27,530
our chair. I imagine at a certain point in time.

792
01:41:33,130 --> 01:41:33,130
I guess my point would be, that funding stream,
I mean, we keep feeding a beast, if that beast doesn't change,

793
01:41:40,130 --> 01:41:40,130
it's really not helping us because you're going to build out to an extent.

794
01:41:44,250 --> 01:41:44,250
you're not going to be able to expand, and you're only going to be able to put traffic on
That roadway without transit,

795
01:41:51,210 --> 01:41:51,210
without in that model. So, you know, maybe it is a time not to be threatening and saying,
We're just going to put in asphalt,

796
01:41:58,950 --> 01:42:01,830
but be more collaborative. That's my only point. Thank you. Thank, thank, thank you very much.

797
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:07,830
I have another speaker and then mr. Caletka. Member lonergan.

798
01:42:14,750 --> 01:42:14,750
just one quick question, under what conditions,
If any, are tolls suspended?

799
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:21,430
usually a hurricane. When the governor announces the state of emergency and he suspends
Tolls for evacuations.

800
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:29,510
okay. And that would just be a hurricane conditions.

801
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:34,470
or any other emergency. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. If there needs to be an evacuation.

802
01:42:39,390 --> 01:42:39,390
thank you. Oh. Mr.

803
01:42:48,990 --> 01:42:48,990
caletka. Thank you. The first thing I want to do is apologize to the board if it came out
The wrong way.

804
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:57,280
one of the. What. One of the things that is my job is to give you all of the information
Before you make your decision,

805
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:05,760
and that's what I was doing. This has happened in other mpos in the state of florida,
And I just wanted it to be known that that was a possibility.

806
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:13,800
I actually prided ourselves at the next, at the last mpc meeting,
Because we actually allowed the public to come and speak on the draft tentative work

807
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:22,600
programs for fdot and the turnpike. And in my personal opinion,
It's a best practice.

808
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:29,240
the second thing I wanted to go through, if you can put those items back on the screen I
Wanted to clarify the motion to ensure that,

809
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:38,360
because it says motion to approve fte draft tentative work program with amendment of 6 to
8 lanes,

810
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,560
that that was only for those first three segments,
Correct? Okay. It's not. No.

811
01:43:59,500 --> 01:43:59,500
okay, okay. We're clear on the motion. And if we can have.

812
01:44:07,700 --> 01:44:10,940
I'm sorry. A motion to amend, and then we'll come after that. If whatever happens with that, we'll go to the original approval.

813
01:44:14,380 --> 01:44:14,380
thank you for the clarification. We are voting on the amendment.

814
01:44:20,860 --> 01:44:20,860
motion to amend. 6 to 8. Okay. And it only applies to the first three,
Not

815
01:44:31,060 --> 01:44:31,060
the 4th. Yes. Where are we? One moment. Oh. Are you voting on.

816
01:44:43,540 --> 01:44:43,540
let me make sure we're. We

817
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:53,400
are voting to amend, is that correct? Motion to amend is a motion to amend.

818
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:01,160
would you please repeat the motion? The motion to amend is to approve 6 to 8 for the first
6 to 8 lanes.

819
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,960
for the only the first three of those projects which were presented. The one remaining project will go 6 to 10 lanes.

820
01:45:17,440 --> 01:45:17,440
doesn't apply to the amendment. Okay.

821
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:30,080
do we have a count? Everyone voted. Who hasn't voted?

822
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:35,720
anyone on any of the virtual? How are the virtual?

823
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:40,720
are going to vote with the with the majority,
Whatever that is, unless they want to be heard?

824
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:46,040
okay. Left. And to the left. To the left.

825
01:45:56,050 --> 01:45:56,050
motion passes. We have 12. 12 yes and 6 no. The amendment was approved,
And now we

826
01:46:06,050 --> 01:46:06,050
go to the main motion to approve the tentative five-year work program with the amendment.

827
01:46:13,770 --> 01:46:13,770
may I have a motion on the item and a second.

828
01:46:21,770 --> 01:46:21,770
I don't see it. Do we have it a moment? Yes,
We do.

829
01:46:27,050 --> 01:46:30,890
no. I have a motion by welch. Nope, nope, nope,
No. That's old. Time to finish this. Alright, now.

830
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:34,490
motion, please. Thank you. Okay.

831
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:47,350
motion by schumann, second by mallozzi.

832
01:47:04,910 --> 01:47:04,910
motion passes. I'm still waiting on board member rogers.

833
01:47:12,590 --> 01:47:12,590
thank you. Okay. Motion passes. On to action item number 3.

834
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:24,550
and so action item number 3 has a couple of different segments. I'm going to read into the main. The main item is a motion to approve amendments to the
Fiscal year 2026-2030 transportation improvement program that is made up of amendment

835
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:34,550
of three projects. That's the replacement project for broward county for mast arm,
Is sw 7th avenue bridge rehabilitation and a shady

836
01:47:44,450 --> 01:47:47,770
banks in tarpon river neighborhood, various at various locations. It also includes the removal of two projects.

837
01:47:50,450 --> 01:47:50,450
those are sample road bridge replacement planning and fort lauderdale/hollywood
International airport airfield electrical vault.

838
01:48:06,250 --> 01:48:06,250
there's no usb. Okay.

839
01:48:16,130 --> 01:48:18,890
do we have a presentation or anything on that,
Or is that it? There is no presentation. But I do know that bcad has a attended our meeting to answer
Questions.

840
01:48:25,850 --> 01:48:25,850
we also have the director of transportation from fdot here as well.

841
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:34,290
because I know at the last meeting one of these items,
Which was the vault, was deferred to this meeting.

842
01:48:40,810 --> 01:48:40,810
the perry airport tower was denied by this board.

843
01:48:45,820 --> 01:48:45,820
the other one that was deferred was the request to remove for the taxiway,
But they have asked us not to put that on there.

844
01:48:53,380 --> 01:48:53,380
they're not asking for its removal anymore. So if you have any questions on any of these
Items,

845
01:48:58,580 --> 01:48:58,580
both broward county aviation department and fdot are here to answer your questions.

846
01:49:03,060 --> 01:49:03,060
I do have two members in the queue, member van buskirk and followed by member mallozzi.

847
01:49:12,660 --> 01:49:12,660
all right. Good afternoon. Or well, right now it's good afternoon actually.

848
01:49:17,060 --> 01:49:17,060
I just want to make sure that we're aware that if you look over what's going to be voted
On right now,

849
01:49:22,420 --> 01:49:22,420
there's a removal of two projects, but further down the road underneath our non-actionable
Items number 3 for roads for economic vitality which is our rev program

850
01:49:32,340 --> 01:49:32,340
which used to be cslip. At our subcommittee meeting they decided that there was going to
Be deductions in the future.

851
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:41,840
I think that affects all of us. I would really like to look at the fact that just to kind
Of give you a heads up,

852
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,120
the sample road bridge project replacement was for the city of lighthouse point. We put in on the tip program aspect of it, and we also put in for appropriations from the
State.

853
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:57,560
and after receiving the state appropriations a year and a half after being awarded,
We were notified that we received the tip or slash

854
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:07,560
c slip funding, which obviously both of them were for 100% funding of design of a bridge.

855
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:14,280
and with that being said, obviously not knowing for a year and a half that we got were
Awarded,

856
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:22,400
we had to take ourselves off of that aspect of it and asked to be removed,
Which we did per the board,

857
01:50:29,440 --> 01:50:29,440
which is perfectly fine, and I respect that aspect of it,
Because we had already been nine months in to working with our general appropriations of

858
01:50:38,580 --> 01:50:38,580
utilizing that funding from the state. But going forward,
They're looking at making deductions for anybody that has a similar situation to us or

859
01:50:46,980 --> 01:50:46,980
other circumstances that would make them remove themselves from the tip program.

860
01:50:51,100 --> 01:50:51,100
and if you look, not only do we have an issue for deductions and points,
If you remove or modify your program that you're looking for,

861
01:51:01,260 --> 01:51:01,260
there also is an opportunity where you will be,
You will not be able to put in for a program the following year.

862
01:51:08,780 --> 01:51:08,780
so, I'm a little disappointed that the fact is,
Is that the information is not put all together for the updates.

863
01:51:15,940 --> 01:51:15,940
if you look down on the evaluation criteria moving forward,
I think that each one of you in here should be very concerned that if you have something

864
01:51:23,900 --> 01:51:23,900
that's changed or something that comes up, like what we just had,
Where we didn't know for a year and a half that all of a sudden you could now not put in

865
01:51:31,900 --> 01:51:35,180
for the following year programs to fund your cities. And ultimately, in the end, all of our goal is to bring back money to our cities,
Not only from the state,

866
01:51:41,230 --> 01:51:44,430
from the county, but also from the federal government. So I really want to make sure that everybody is aware what you're voting on and more
Importantly,

867
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:50,390
looking at the non actionable items. I do not believe that we should be taking the
Recommendation of our subcommittee for deductions or removal from preview or for

868
01:52:00,030 --> 01:52:00,030
following years. And I also want to confirm that if we do vote on this,
That this is in prospectus,

869
01:52:06,150 --> 01:52:06,150
meaning that it's only going forward, it's not going to look backwards,
Because every one of us,

870
01:52:11,190 --> 01:52:11,190
I know fort lauderdale has had some issues before. I know other cities have had situations
Like this.

871
01:52:16,710 --> 01:52:16,710
we don't want to have it said, oh, well, we're going to go back two years,
A year, 18 months,

872
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:22,310
three years, I don't know. So I want to make sure that there's two that we're all aware of
This before we vote on it,

873
01:52:28,350 --> 01:52:28,350
but more importantly that our goals are to bring money back.

874
01:52:34,770 --> 01:52:34,770
and if things happen and if we can, if we're getting deducted for the future,
That's a problem.

875
01:52:41,650 --> 01:52:45,090
and for a little city lighthouse point, that's a major problem. So thank you. Thank you for your comments. Member mallozzi.

876
01:52:55,290 --> 01:52:55,290
mr. Caletka, can you verify that the, even though I was under the impression,
Excuse me, I was under the

877
01:53:05,290 --> 01:53:05,290
impression that the last meeting we had a consensus up here to keep the improvement to
Perry airport

878
01:53:14,970 --> 01:53:14,970
on. Sorry. Something's like in my throat. Sorry.

879
01:53:24,290 --> 01:53:24,290
and I believe that that was taken off by fdot.

880
01:53:30,490 --> 01:53:30,490
like, that's no longer can you verify that. So at the last meeting,
There were three items related to airports.

881
01:53:39,070 --> 01:53:39,070
it was the taxiway was asked to be removed. They are no longer asking for it to be
Removed.

882
01:53:44,230 --> 01:53:44,230
the second was the vault, electrical vault, which is before you today,
Asking for removal.

883
01:53:51,150 --> 01:53:51,150
those two were deferred. The third was to replace the perry airport tower,
And the board moved to deny that removal.

884
01:54:00,870 --> 01:54:00,870
correct. From the tip. But I was under the impression,
And I could have received my information improperly,

885
01:54:07,110 --> 01:54:07,110
that even though we kept it on, that it was removed by other parties.

886
01:54:13,670 --> 01:54:13,670
am I correct or not correct in that understanding?

887
01:54:18,350 --> 01:54:18,350
I would ask fdot what the consequences were for that.

888
01:54:24,150 --> 01:54:24,150
he's coming up. I'm trying to. Hi. Good afternoon.

889
01:54:29,710 --> 01:54:33,440
john crane, director of transportation development,
Florida dot district 4. Not afternoon yet. It just feels like it. So with respect to that particular

890
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:43,160
perry airport tower amendment, the it was requested to be removed because the funding that
Was obtained from the federal government to do that

891
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:52,880
project was not obtained. Right. They applied for a grant,
They didn't get the money.

892
01:54:58,040 --> 01:54:58,040
so for from dots perspective, it made no sense to keep it in our work program,
It seemed disingenuous,

893
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:06,200
because it's not a project that can be produced that we're going to be funneling money
Towards.

894
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:12,000
it can be brought back. If they're successful in obtaining the grant next cycle,
We can put it right back in.

895
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:20,040
but if the money's not there, we didn't. We don't put it in our work program.

896
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:27,680
so may I speak again? Okay. So, two things or maybe three things.

897
01:55:34,700 --> 01:55:34,700
first thing would be, I believe there was 1 or 2 other things that were removed at fdots
Request in between,

898
01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:47,300
so maybe we could put that money towards the airport because we did it. And then here I am back to, well, we're here,
We're asked our opinion, we're asked to vote on something,

899
01:55:54,300 --> 01:55:54,300
but our vote apparently is of no consequence because we voted to keep it on.

900
01:56:00,740 --> 01:56:00,740
there's hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars floating around fdot for
Various projects.

901
01:56:07,980 --> 01:56:07,980
obviously, the members of this board, which are broward county,
Are asking for something to be done in broward county.

902
01:56:17,180 --> 01:56:17,180
I would think that something could be reallocated to at least start that project,
Because,

903
01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:25,740
again, I'm going to use my daughter as an example. And this has really has no bearing on her because now she's flying out of another airport
Woo hoo for her.

904
01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:30,390
but everything in perry airport is extremely antiquated,
And she's studying to be a pilot,

905
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:38,790
which is why I'm going to go with what she says over me. Because I have no idea. But everything there is very antiquated,
And it needs an upgrade also.

906
01:56:46,270 --> 01:56:46,270
perry airport, like the. I want to say you said 62 other airports.

907
01:56:50,390 --> 01:56:50,390
I'm sure it's surrounded by homes. So if there is a miscommunication,
If there is a problem with antiquated equipment,

908
01:56:58,990 --> 01:56:58,990
the consequences could be very dangerous because there are so many people living around
That.

909
01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:04,310
there have been issues in the past, we're trying to rectify any issues concerning
Equipment and

910
01:57:14,270 --> 01:57:14,270
not take that out of the equation and lessen chances of issues happening.

911
01:57:19,630 --> 01:57:19,630
so I'd like to be. I'd like to know that my first meeting.

912
01:57:24,430 --> 01:57:24,430
okay. I could have went home after that. And instead I came here because I thought my
Voice mattered.

913
01:57:30,250 --> 01:57:30,250
and I'm feeling unloved from fdot right now,
So let's get that.

914
01:57:35,410 --> 01:57:39,330
what do we have to do to get that funded? Because we voted to keep it. You're like, yep, we're not doing it. But I know there's money you can put towards that.

915
01:57:44,090 --> 01:57:44,090
I have faith in you and mr. Brown. Sorry. Behind the scenes,
There was plenty of conversation on dots part as to

916
01:57:54,330 --> 01:57:54,330
what action we should take, right? We did not just disregard the action from the board.

917
01:58:00,250 --> 01:58:00,250
everything you all say here is taken back and deliberated upon.

918
01:58:05,410 --> 01:58:05,410
but the truth of the matter in this particular case is keeping it in the work program.

919
01:58:11,730 --> 01:58:11,730
we could keep it in the work program with $0 if that sends the message that you want to
Send.

920
01:58:18,970 --> 01:58:18,970
however, the purpose of the work program, the purpose of the tip is,
You know, maybe we could have a separate,

921
01:58:26,990 --> 01:58:30,550
complete discussion with the board about that going forward. But it's more related to making sure that federal dollars can be reimbursed properly,
Allocated properly.

922
01:58:38,430 --> 01:58:38,430
and so if those federal dollars, you know, we plan five years in the future,
If those federal dollars aren't there next year for something we plan for today,

923
01:58:46,790 --> 01:58:46,790
the project's not there. So follow up. The need for the project still is there.

924
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:52,070
follow up question so if you were to keep this on and monies became available and because
It is on,

925
01:59:01,030 --> 01:59:01,030
then could is there a better chance of monies that are floating out there being directed
Towards this project?

926
01:59:07,710 --> 01:59:07,710
whereas if it is not on, there's no chance? Am I right in that recollection,
And if so, then can we keep it on for that reason?

927
01:59:16,830 --> 01:59:16,830
I would hazard to say, ha, that it would not make it any more eligible or more competitive
For funding

928
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:27,080
it. The funding for this particular project,
And I don't want to speak for bcad, maybe they can speak,

929
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:32,760
but comes from their grant allocations, their grant petitions,
Right.

930
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:39,280
and funding that we allocate for specific federal money that comes to us for them.

931
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:45,440
right. We can pass it through. We do not have state road moneys that we could apply
Towards airport.

932
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:53,560
so, I mean, I think that's kind of where your question was,
Does dot have additional money somewhere that we could just kind of spend for that?

933
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:01,280
so the way it's set up funds are very specific on how they can be spent.

934
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:06,240
and we do not have that. But it is important,
We've heard that it's important.

935
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:12,480
I think bcad knows it's important. And if they can apply for additional grant moneys,
I suspect they will and it will come back into the work program with no

936
02:00:22,220 --> 02:00:22,220
problem. Thank you. Thank you all for your comments.

937
02:00:30,380 --> 02:00:30,380
I do have another speaker. I do want to ask the attorney do we still have a quorum?

938
02:00:35,940 --> 02:00:35,940
are we? Well, because I know there at least 1 or 2 individuals who may need to leave.

939
02:00:42,580 --> 02:00:42,580
will we still have a quorum because we still have two items to vote on.

940
02:00:46,940 --> 02:00:46,940
so I would ask if you when you make a comment,
If you can just kind of get to the point as quickly as possible so that we won't lose the

941
02:00:56,020 --> 02:00:59,060
quorum. But how are we with quorum? Madam chair,
We have a quorum. At the moment. You need 14 members to be present,
So we have 16 present at the moment.

942
02:01:04,140 --> 02:01:04,140
so if more than two people leaves, then we're in trouble.

943
02:01:09,580 --> 02:01:09,580
okay, commissioner rises, this is your chance.

944
02:01:13,740 --> 02:01:13,740
member good. Thank you, madam chair. And to my colleagues,
I ask that

945
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:23,280
you forgive me for not rushing this. My questions here.

946
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:30,400
I apologize to you all. This is a rather very,
Very important issue for the city of miramar,

947
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:36,360
the city of pembroke pines, and for the city of hollywood.

948
02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:40,640
and we're talking about the airport. And we had a lot,
A lot, a lot of discussion last time.

949
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:48,360
and we know what the result of that conversation was. So bottom line is that this this board made a determination to not defund this project,
And yet the

950
02:01:57,960 --> 02:01:57,960
project is defunded. And so, you know, that's a discussion,
Conversation amongst all things,

951
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:05,280
sort of kind of ties back to what we just had conversation with the turnpike district.

952
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:10,040
you know, if we're giving you our input and our desires and maybe even directions,
You know,

953
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:19,050
we would expect that, you know, to go in that way,
But it doesn't. So the question here for staff, maybe, if I may,
Madam chair.

954
02:02:27,010 --> 02:02:27,010
so, you know, this tower has a lot of history to it.

955
02:02:31,450 --> 02:02:31,450
it's been in a tip for quite a while. One of the most important things about the tip is we
Only put things in there that are funded.

956
02:02:39,610 --> 02:02:39,610
why else are we? I mean, it's funded. We. Otherwise,
If we don't know, it's going to be funded,

957
02:02:44,450 --> 02:02:44,450
we put it in the 20 year plan, right? We wait until it gets funded,
But money is secured.

958
02:02:51,410 --> 02:02:55,050
otherwise it's not brought forward in the tip. So that conversation about grant was rather interesting.

959
02:02:58,890 --> 02:02:58,890
but to the staff, can they kind of just walk through a little bit of the history?

960
02:03:04,450 --> 02:03:04,450
because I know that a couple years back, most of this project was funded by dot.

961
02:03:11,410 --> 02:03:11,410
the money was pulled, and then there were other funding sources that were provided.

962
02:03:15,870 --> 02:03:15,870
could you please kind of walk us back, that transition of dollars when it was,
You know, 1 million or 2 to what,

963
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:25,030
6 million. If I may, madam chair? So there was a contribution of according to the

964
02:03:34,830 --> 02:03:34,830
speakers at the last meeting, there was a contribution both from bcad and fdot to build
The new tower.

965
02:03:42,270 --> 02:03:42,270
and at the last meeting, they had said that due to inflation,
That the tower would cost considerably more,

966
02:03:48,510 --> 02:03:48,510
if not double what the estimate actually was when it was placed into the transportation
Improvement program.

967
02:03:56,750 --> 02:03:56,750
and they also stated that bcad had told fdot that they would like that item removed.

968
02:04:07,110 --> 02:04:07,110
that's what they testified at the last hearing. So bcad is essentially the one who pulled
The funds.

969
02:04:13,570 --> 02:04:17,090
so if I could put things in perspective here. And I'm, you know, we all want to work, and we do work very well with fdot.

970
02:04:23,170 --> 02:04:23,170
and what's really important is they started out with their trrec,
Which was trust, respect,

971
02:04:29,250 --> 02:04:31,490
relationships, empowerment and communications. Which of all is at risk right now because of this particular situation.

972
02:04:36,770 --> 02:04:36,770
but truthfully, dots contribution to this project was,
Could you please answer that question?

973
02:04:44,290 --> 02:04:44,290
what was dots contribution to this project? Off the top of my head,
I cannot remember the amount.

974
02:04:51,650 --> 02:04:51,650
was it about $80,000? Can somebody answer that question?

975
02:05:02,050 --> 02:05:02,050
the director of transportation is looking. So it was essentially about $80,000.

976
02:05:08,130 --> 02:05:08,130
there was another contribution matching contribution of $80,000,
And then there was $6 million that was being provided through another funding source which

977
02:05:17,860 --> 02:05:20,860
was being controlled by bcad. Is that correct? I believe it is, yes. So dot had less than 5% investment in this project.

978
02:05:25,740 --> 02:05:25,740
the other 95% is in the bcad funding source,
Correct?

979
02:05:29,860 --> 02:05:29,860
I believe that is true. Yes, sir. Okay. So one of the things that's really important about
The bcad component to this.

980
02:05:37,620 --> 02:05:37,620
so you I'm certain everybody's been kind of aware of some of the the dynamics that are
Going on because it's widely being

981
02:05:47,460 --> 02:05:49,780
presented through the press and things like that. But a while ago, maybe two months ago, three months ago,
There was a meeting where all, you know,

982
02:05:56,180 --> 02:05:56,180
hollywood, pembroke pines and miramar were invited and bcad came out and they spoke very
Highly about how they're very focused on taking care of that

983
02:06:05,980 --> 02:06:09,360
airport because we're worried about safety, safety,
Safety. And so a commitment, and it was made at that meeting to the public that safety was of
Utmost importance.

984
02:06:18,920 --> 02:06:18,920
and then you know, recently there was a media invite to the airport again the

985
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:28,600
statement is safety is of utmost importance. And then we sit here and listen,
The reason why money was pulled because of inflationary factors,

986
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:40,640
which means that next year it's going to be even more inflationary. So where is even more money going to come from?

987
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:42,720
so the point is, you don't put a dollar value on safety.

988
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:48,800
you make it safe, and you do what you have to do to make it safe.

989
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:53,440
and so that's the issue that's here. This board wasn't really,
This board focused on what was the main element.

990
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:01,440
and that's why we decided not to defund it was because we too are concerned about safety
And we're concerned about trust.

991
02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:09,860
and again, all that is at risk because these funds were pulled.

992
02:07:14,580 --> 02:07:14,580
don't know how they get pulled after this board says don't pull them.

993
02:07:18,940 --> 02:07:18,940
so madam chair, I just need to make that for the record because I don't think that what
Was done was

994
02:07:28,580 --> 02:07:28,580
honest or transparent to us. Good morning. Just an opportunity to introduce myself.

995
02:07:36,220 --> 02:07:39,260
my name is mike deceo, and I represent the aviation department. I'm the chief development officer there. And I'm hoping I might be able to add a little
Clarity to some of the conversation that's occurring.

996
02:07:48,340 --> 02:07:48,340
the first thing I'd like to do is there was a comment that was made that everything in n.

997
02:07:54,940 --> 02:07:54,940
perry is antiquated, and I have to strongly disagree with that,
Because we've spent millions of dollars making sure that that is a state-of-the-art

998
02:08:03,860 --> 02:08:03,860
facility. That being said, there is a tower and that tower is approximately 50-60 years
Old.

999
02:08:10,590 --> 02:08:10,590
that does not mean that the materials in the infrastructure within that tower are
Outdated.

1000
02:08:18,590 --> 02:08:18,590
we have as part of our master plan we have recommended,
There's been a recommendation that the tower be replaced.

1001
02:08:26,910 --> 02:08:26,910
and that is a recommendation that we have attempted to pursue.

1002
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:31,990
the original cost coming out of the master plan assumed a like,
For, like, type tower.

1003
02:08:38,030 --> 02:08:38,030
and our experience now in dealing with the faa and replacing that tower is.

1004
02:08:42,990 --> 02:08:45,350
yes, there are several things that are in play. One is the escalation and the increased cost of the project.

1005
02:08:50,230 --> 02:08:50,230
the second is going to be that the requirements of the faa now for a new tower are going
To need to be addressed.

1006
02:08:58,470 --> 02:08:58,470
we have pursued funding through a previous grant bill,
A previous program,

1007
02:09:08,130 --> 02:09:08,130
the infrastructure bill and we pursued funding and applied for funding for the tower with
The understanding that

1008
02:09:18,730 --> 02:09:18,730
our tower would have been eligible, would came back to us from the faa was a determination
That because the tower is owned by the faa and not

1009
02:09:28,490 --> 02:09:28,490
owned by bcad, the sponsor, it was no longer it would not be eligible to receive the
Federal funding.

1010
02:09:35,050 --> 02:09:35,050
so that put us in a position of sitting here and having a dot grant for approximately
$375,000 to help move forward on a tower.

1011
02:09:45,850 --> 02:09:45,850
but I will tell you that the cost of that tower at the current moment sits somewhere
Around between 20 and $25 million.

1012
02:09:55,490 --> 02:09:55,490
the and it made no sense to sit and to tie up dots monies that there have been offering
For 375,000.

1013
02:10:05,150 --> 02:10:05,150
knowing that we still had a 20 to $25 million funding gap for a new tower.

1014
02:10:13,310 --> 02:10:13,310
so what we've done is explain to the dot one.

1015
02:10:19,030 --> 02:10:19,030
we greatly appreciate you partnering with us to try to help move this forward.

1016
02:10:23,950 --> 02:10:23,950
but at the current moment, we do not have a funding plan because the federal government,
Or its determination of ineligibility made no sense

1017
02:10:33,870 --> 02:10:33,870
to continue down that path with the aviation department has been doing is coordinating
With the federal government on a new program,

1018
02:10:43,190 --> 02:10:43,190
a pilot program that is out there. The faa recognizes that it did a pretty good job of
Trying to address

1019
02:10:53,910 --> 02:10:53,910
almost 200 to 300 towers across the united states that require to be upgraded if they were
Owned by the sponsor.

1020
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:03,760
in this case, again, it is a federal tower, so that they're working on a program right now
To address how do they fund

1021
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:13,000
federally owned infrastructure. We, there's a pilot program that will evaluate that tower.

1022
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:22,240
consider federalizing the tower, which essentially means because right now that's a
Contract tower.

1023
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:31,320
but with the operations that have increased at n. Perry, it would it seems to satisfy the requirements.

1024
02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:36,240
and it's been our position that it would satisfy the requirements for the faa to then turn
That from a contract tower into a

1025
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:45,760
federalized tower with faa employees in it. We are currently waiting for determination.

1026
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:53,680
we believe we're one of six facilities across the united states that have been included in
That program.

1027
02:12:02,020 --> 02:12:02,020
and that is where we're pursuing funding to replace the tower.

1028
02:12:07,420 --> 02:12:07,420
it's our understanding that if they make that determination,
Then there will be a requirement that that tower will have to meet the current criteria

1029
02:12:15,420 --> 02:12:15,420
for a new faa tower which would be occupied by faa employees.

1030
02:12:22,380 --> 02:12:22,380
and that's what we're pursuing right now. So I don't want to leave anybody with the
Impression that this tower is not important,

1031
02:12:29,140 --> 02:12:32,900
that this is a project that we're going to discard. All we're trying to do is find the appropriate measure to properly fund the new
Replacement tower at perry.

1032
02:12:42,620 --> 02:12:42,620
if we were to turn around, and there was the suggestion that we find additional monies to
Fill that gap

1033
02:12:52,540 --> 02:12:52,540
and we were able to actually pay for the 20 to $30 million dollar tower there implications
That go along with that,

1034
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:00,520
that would require that the aviation department would then become responsible in
Perpetuity to the maintenance of that tower.

1035
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:10,600
and again, right now it's an faa tower, and they're responsible for the maintenance and
The liability that goes along with that.

1036
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:16,680
in addition to that, we would be required as a county agency to now be responsible for the
Replacement of all of the inner workings and the

1037
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:25,920
infrastructure that goes inside that tower. So if the faa was to decide it needed to have
Upgraded electronics,

1038
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:34,000
radar systems, would the other ancillary pieces of equipment that go into that tower,
The county would then be responsible for that.

1039
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:43,080
that's assuming that liability doesn't make any sense from the county's perspective.

1040
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:49,520
when the faa has a program in place that they're trying to put in place right now to
Replace a tower.

1041
02:13:54,890 --> 02:13:54,890
so that's the avenue that we're trying at the current moment to head down that path.

1042
02:14:01,170 --> 02:14:01,170
and we understand your concerns. Certainly we have concerns,
Too, about some of the activities or incidents that have taken place at

1043
02:14:10,730 --> 02:14:10,730
perry. But in our research and going back through all of the incidents that have occurred
At perry,

1044
02:14:17,450 --> 02:14:17,450
not one of those incidents can be tied to the activities or deficiency within that tower.

1045
02:14:23,650 --> 02:14:23,650
there's been operational issues, there's equipment issues,
But nothing directly relates back to the tower.

1046
02:14:30,210 --> 02:14:30,210
so I hope that somewhat satisfies some concerns,
And I'm happy to address any other questions you might have.

1047
02:14:38,650 --> 02:14:38,650
so, madam chair, I'd just like to close then to and thank you for your very lengthy
Response.

1048
02:14:44,490 --> 02:14:44,490
I mean, you're doing your job, but what you just said was that broward county aviation
Department doesn't care about its community.

1049
02:14:54,350 --> 02:14:54,350
it's absolutely not what I said, sir. You made every reference to why you can't perform in
Proceeding with this tower.

1050
02:15:04,110 --> 02:15:04,110
that does provide safety, because many of your own pilots will say that themselves.

1051
02:15:08,950 --> 02:15:08,950
but you focus more on money. Does it make sense for us to do anything this,
That the other and certainly the public will take that very clearly as

1052
02:15:18,950 --> 02:15:21,870
bcad does not care about the community. Thank you ma'am. Well, that may be your. I didn't say you. I said your agency.

1053
02:15:25,590 --> 02:15:25,590
thank you. Okay. Well, on behalf of my agency,
Let me respectfully disagree with what you just said.

1054
02:15:31,510 --> 02:15:31,510
I will tell you again, and let me emphasize,
Safety is a primary concern, the primary concern for not only the people flying in and out

1055
02:15:40,390 --> 02:15:40,390
of perry, but the residents as well. And that is that is exactly why.

1056
02:15:45,990 --> 02:15:48,830
and we've been asked to perform a safety study. We're performing safety study. We've been asked to look at a lead study.

1057
02:15:53,050 --> 02:15:53,050
we're doing that as well. We're working with the commissioner rogers right now.

1058
02:15:58,490 --> 02:16:01,770
and holding the open house that you made reference to. I may correct you. That's I believe that's commissioner alexander davis,
Not commissioner.

1059
02:16:06,250 --> 02:16:06,250
oh. I'm sorry. And by the way, too, I do know that she cares about that community because
She has been heavily advocating for the safety as well.

1060
02:16:13,010 --> 02:16:16,410
thank you. And to the commissioner, I apologize. You are correct, I stand corrected. But I do need to.

1061
02:16:22,290 --> 02:16:22,290
thank you. Thank you very much for your for your responses.

1062
02:16:26,570 --> 02:16:26,570
I really appreciate it. I don't want us to go back and forth.

1063
02:16:32,090 --> 02:16:32,090
I want to be able to, to get through this item that we have.

1064
02:16:37,970 --> 02:16:37,970
as a miramar resident of the, vice mayor for the city of miramar,
I am very much concerned with perry airport as well.

1065
02:16:46,490 --> 02:16:46,490
I would like to get this item here if we can go back to mr.

1066
02:16:51,980 --> 02:16:55,980
caletka and the attorney and give us just a clarification. And exactly what is it that we are voting for on this item today?

1067
02:17:02,500 --> 02:17:02,500
madam chair the first three items are projects that are amended and the last two are
Removals.

1068
02:17:11,020 --> 02:17:11,020
so the removals are the sample road bridge replacement planning and the fort lauderdale
Airport electrical vault design.

1069
02:17:20,380 --> 02:17:20,380
okay. May I have a motion and a second on this item?

1070
02:17:36,060 --> 02:17:36,060
I see a second without a motion. Who made the motion?

1071
02:17:42,980 --> 02:17:45,700
welch. Made the motion, and lonergan seconded. Okay. Farewell. Well please, let's have an electronic vote.

1072
02:17:57,400 --> 02:17:57,400
okay.

1073
02:18:15,960 --> 02:18:15,960
motion. One more. Okay. Motion passes. And before we

1074
02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:25,800
move on to the next item, and we do have another item that we have to vote on.

1075
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:31,440
we had some great discussion on that. And I really think that it's important that we get
Some sort of a regular report as to what's going on with,

1076
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:40,200
with perry and the funding and so forth. So I would appreciate that coming back before us,

1077
02:18:46,220 --> 02:18:46,220
and I think the rest of the board would as well.

1078
02:18:51,860 --> 02:18:51,860
okay. All right. Do we still have a quorum? Hold it,
Hold it.

1079
02:18:57,820 --> 02:18:57,820
don't walk out. Because dean left. Okay, mr. Attorney.

1080
02:19:03,020 --> 02:19:03,020
do we have do we have a quorum? Okay. Very well.

1081
02:19:09,980 --> 02:19:13,860
item number 4. Item 4 is a motion to approve. He says we do. Motion to approve targets for the federally mandated performance measure
Areas.

1082
02:19:21,900 --> 02:19:21,900
okay, I don't. Can I go? Are we ready to vote on it?

1083
02:19:31,300 --> 02:19:31,300
I don't see any comments. I, I don't have to give a presentation.

1084
02:19:35,620 --> 02:19:35,620
madam chair, if you're ready to vote, please feel free to do so.

1085
02:19:42,740 --> 02:19:42,740
okay. Can we, can I, can we get. I heard 30s,
I'm you know, I actually promised, just

1086
02:19:52,950 --> 02:19:52,950
for the record, I actually promised this was rushed through before,
And I actually promised that I was going to allow a full presentation.

1087
02:20:00,070 --> 02:20:00,070
but we are, we, you know, we're almost going to lose a vote and you won't get it passed
Today.

1088
02:20:05,190 --> 02:20:08,110
so if you can just do something really, really quickly. Absolutely. Madam chair, and I am the expert in giving really brief presentations.

1089
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:11,990
so you're lucky. And I'm going to ask for your item to be at the top of the list next
Time.

1090
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:16,950
okay. Absolutely. Go ahead quickly. Performance measures are required by federal
Government,

1091
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:21,030
obviously. And these are the two acts that enable the performance measures.

1092
02:20:25,830 --> 02:20:25,830
and we essentially performance measures are to ensure efficient investment of federal
Transportation funding,

1093
02:20:31,550 --> 02:20:35,470
right. And there's three items that we are going to vote on today. Pm1 safety. So essentially safety targets for all the roadways in broward.

1094
02:20:41,230 --> 02:20:41,230
the transit asset management, which is for transit and transit safety.

1095
02:20:46,250 --> 02:20:46,250
so all the targets you're going to see are coordination either with fdot,
They're target zero vision or with bct and sfrta

1096
02:20:56,090 --> 02:20:56,090
for transit asset management and transit safety with broward county transit.

1097
02:21:01,610 --> 02:21:01,610
so with that, all the way to the right, you see the last column,
Those are the proposed targets that were that we're proposing,

1098
02:21:08,170 --> 02:21:08,170
it's essentially target zero. Again, this is what we've done since we started setting
Targets.

1099
02:21:14,570 --> 02:21:17,650
transit asset management, the column all the way to the right. These are the proposed targets. Again, this is from information we got from broward county
Transit and sfrta,

1100
02:21:23,850 --> 02:21:26,890
so these targets are consistent with what they have. And transit safety. This is strictly from broward county transit because sfrta tri-rail
Falls under the fra in terms of safety.

1101
02:21:35,770 --> 02:21:38,890
so this is what I have for you. These are the targets. And any questions I'll be. I'll take them right now.

1102
02:21:42,390 --> 02:21:45,790
thank you so much, mr. Flavien. You've done an awesome job. Thank you very much. Motion to approve. We have motion second.

1103
02:21:52,310 --> 02:21:52,310
okay, let's have an electronic vote. Well, on its way.

1104
02:21:59,350 --> 02:21:59,350
motion passes. All right. We do have a few comments.

1105
02:22:06,070 --> 02:22:06,070
and I assume that these non-action items won't be taking place today.

1106
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:11,590
is there anything that has to happen. Mrs. Macneil did you want to present with the rev

1107
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:21,270
or can it wait till february or. I can't wait.

1108
02:22:27,150 --> 02:22:27,150
miss macneil is on the way. Miss macneil is which one of these?

1109
02:22:32,790 --> 02:22:32,790
number 3. Number 3. Okay, before we get to number 3,
We had some comments.

1110
02:22:39,080 --> 02:22:39,080
do we need to get these comments through? I know I had quick comment.

1111
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:46,240
my comments were very quick local contributions.

1112
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:50,400
I ask for you to go back to your to your cities and make sure that they are processing
Those.

1113
02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:00,480
we talked a little bit about mpoac as well. This is our last meeting for this year.

1114
02:23:05,880 --> 02:23:05,880
our next meeting will be in february. So happy holiday to everybody else.

1115
02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:10,560
to everyone. And and I did want to congratulate mr.

1116
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:14,600
good and being a grandpa for the first time. Are there any other comments from the members
That we need to get in before this?

1117
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:24,320
none action item? No. Executive director report.

1118
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:29,520
I'll just say that I'm filling in for greg today because he's ill,
Much like mayor furr.

1119
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:33,800
we always appreciate it when somebody doesn't tend to spread their germs,
So it's appreciated.

1120
02:23:39,740 --> 02:23:39,740
and second I am going to we're going to defer non-action item 3 to february.

1121
02:23:45,980 --> 02:23:45,980
but we do have the lap presentation here today that we think is more important,
And it'll be the only one that we'll do today,

1122
02:23:52,700 --> 02:23:52,700
which is non-action, item number two. No. Okay.

1123
02:23:57,820 --> 02:23:57,820
very well. And we have legislative reports as well.

1124
02:24:05,220 --> 02:24:05,220
is that something we can get done in 30s? Absolutely.

1125
02:24:09,860 --> 02:24:12,900
so great. Federal government shut down. Okay. Next. Tallahassee's trying to limit property tax.

1126
02:24:18,900 --> 02:24:21,900
and they're also looking at bills to regulate scooters. And the last thing in front of you, you have the mpo resident guidebook.

1127
02:24:25,740 --> 02:24:25,740
we have a few thousand copies of these. These are a quick reference in faq guides for you
And your residents of the common transportation questions.

1128
02:24:33,300 --> 02:24:35,640
it's also available on our website. Thank you. Thank you very much. And the general counsel.

1129
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:39,280
I have nothing to report. If you have any questions on any of those items,
Please don't hesitate to get in touch with me.

1130
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:44,400
happy to talk to you. Wonderful, thank you. If the rest of us are here,
If we can just go ahead and pay attention to the presentation.

1131
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:53,800
did you need to read that into the record? Projects transitioning to the florida
Department of transportation (fdot) local agency program (lap).

1132
02:25:01,800 --> 02:25:04,560
wonderful, you're recognized. Thank you so much. I'll go through this very quickly. We have five projects that are part of our
Transportation improvement program that will be making their way onto the fdot lap

1133
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:13,560
program. And so I just wanted to quickly go over the history of what we've been
Experiencing through lap with the mpo and then introduce those five projects.

1134
02:25:21,040 --> 02:25:21,040
so first, before 2021, we had worked with fdot as our implementation partner who delivered
All off system projects for us.

1135
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:29,680
between the years of 2021 and 2024, we had worked with fdot to identify those projects
That would go through lap that did not require any right of way.

1136
02:25:38,210 --> 02:25:38,210
so thinking of projects that are from like our cslip/rev program and our mobility projects
From our roadster family program,

1137
02:25:44,410 --> 02:25:44,410
all projects that did not require any right of way. The onus was on the local
Municipalities to run design and construction for those projects.

1138
02:25:52,690 --> 02:25:52,690
for the new 2025 policies that are going to be put into place through fdot lap,
We are, they are we are working together to find ways to get the local municipalities to

1139
02:26:01,570 --> 02:26:01,570
take on the full construction of those projects,
With the caveat if there are any right of way components to the project,

1140
02:26:08,210 --> 02:26:08,210
that fdot will work with us to administer the pd&e and right of way phases and design of
Those projects,

1141
02:26:15,090 --> 02:26:15,090
but the construction would fall on the local municipality applying for the project.

1142
02:26:19,370 --> 02:26:23,010
so these are the five projects that will be making their way into lap. We have one project in the city of pembroke pines,
Two in davie, one in miramar and one in hallandale beach.

1143
02:26:29,090 --> 02:26:29,090
the first three on the list of fdot is going to be working on the right of way and pd&e of
Those projects.

1144
02:26:35,070 --> 02:26:35,070
and then for the bottom two, hallandale beach and davie,
We're going to be working with the local municipalities to work on feasibility studies,

1145
02:26:42,030 --> 02:26:42,030
to get conceptual plans, to really find out what the exact need for those projects are.

1146
02:26:47,430 --> 02:26:47,430
in the future, when you review our transportation improvement program and you want to see
Where the responsible agency is for those projects on that report,

1147
02:26:55,070 --> 02:26:55,070
you can look to those yellow rectangles there in the upper right hand corner of the tip
Pages.

1148
02:27:00,110 --> 02:27:00,110
that's where you'll see the responsible agency for administering the phase of the project.

1149
02:27:04,990 --> 02:27:04,990
and so when you see the next tip next year, you might see some of those projects change.

1150
02:27:09,790 --> 02:27:09,790
and now I would like to invite fdot to come up here.

1151
02:27:15,790 --> 02:27:15,790
now is good afternoon. Cesar martinez with fdot planning administrator.

1152
02:27:20,910 --> 02:27:24,830
just to emphasize what chris mentioned, I only have 1 or 2 slides. But essentially just to get into the why we're doing this the department feels that local
Municipalities are better equipped to manage

1153
02:27:34,930 --> 02:27:34,930
projects within the railway jurisdiction, meaning projects that are off the state highway
System are due to their local knowledge of the area.

1154
02:27:45,090 --> 02:27:45,090
so and then, like chris mentioned, we remain committed to deliver and work with the mpo on
The mpo priority project.

1155
02:27:53,050 --> 02:27:53,050
so we're still managing feasibility studies and project development environment studies,
Regardless of where those projects are located at.

1156
02:28:00,690 --> 02:28:00,690
but then what will happen next, it will depend on whether or not the project will require
Right of way.

1157
02:28:06,090 --> 02:28:06,090
so when it requires right of way then we will manage the design and right of way phases
Until that point.

1158
02:28:14,490 --> 02:28:14,490
then it will become a lot project meaning under the local agency program for the local
Agency to manage the construction phase.

1159
02:28:23,370 --> 02:28:23,370
if doesn't require right of way phase then we will transition that project projects sooner
At the design phase.

1160
02:28:29,580 --> 02:28:29,580
so we will complete the feasibility study. We'll pass it on to the city to complete the
Design and the construction.

1161
02:28:37,060 --> 02:28:37,060
and always we expect the local agency to lead the public involvement activities throughout
The whole project,

1162
02:28:44,700 --> 02:28:44,700
and we will assign a point person within dot to help out with the department's
Coordination.

1163
02:28:51,260 --> 02:28:51,260
these are the same projects that chris mentioned. I just want to emphasize that on the
Pembroke road project, we have a coordination meeting this afternoon with broward county

1164
02:28:58,220 --> 02:28:58,220
and the city of miramar and pines on pembroke pines to determine who of those three
Entities will manage the construction phase.

1165
02:29:14,500 --> 02:29:14,500
good afternoon. I'm lowell clary, the executive director with mtecc,
And I realize I'm your last present presenter,

1166
02:29:21,860 --> 02:29:21,860
so I'll be quick. Mtecc and interlocal agency created by the cities that are members of
That.

1167
02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:28,000
we provide centralized design and construction efforts for the projects.

1168
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:35,040
the current members, original members are here.

1169
02:29:39,360 --> 02:29:39,360
additional members have been added to mtecc. We do have three active projects that are
Moving very quickly.

1170
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:47,200
we should be moving to construction on coconut creek later this year,
Early into 26.

1171
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:54,120
and pembroke pines is moving to 40%, 60%. Design in fort lauderdale has just begun.

1172
02:30:03,280 --> 02:30:03,280
these are our board members and staff. Each project is unique.

1173
02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:08,280
we work with the cities to develop an approach to the project and work closely with their
Staff to ensure that we deliver that project within the goals of the

1174
02:30:18,040 --> 02:30:18,040
city. And these are our key partners, and I'd be happy to answer any questions.

1175
02:30:26,820 --> 02:30:30,780
thank you. We have a question from member good. Thank you, madam chair. I just have a really quick question.

1176
02:30:33,580 --> 02:30:33,580
so when were these cities that are being impacted with this transition first notified of
The intent to the transition.

1177
02:30:46,260 --> 02:30:46,260
so we are working with the broward mpo to communicate that with the city.

1178
02:30:50,740 --> 02:30:50,740
and like I said this afternoon, we have a meeting with regarding one particular project
Where we're working,

1179
02:30:57,060 --> 02:30:57,060
you know, through it as we go and then as new projects come in,
I think that will be part of the conversation before new projects start in the department.

1180
02:31:06,100 --> 02:31:08,380
very good. I just asked a real simple question. When were these cities first notified of the transition?

1181
02:31:13,220 --> 02:31:13,220
I know you're working with mpo and you're having a meeting,
But did they get a letter like a month ago saying,

1182
02:31:17,900 --> 02:31:17,900
we're going to do this, we need to have a meeting? Or is today the very first day that
They're being notified?

1183
02:31:23,350 --> 02:31:23,350
I don't have a date, a specific date for you,
And we haven't sent official letters out.

1184
02:31:28,670 --> 02:31:32,270
all has been coordination meetings for the last couple of months. All right. Because this is certainly shifting a unfunded liability on to each of these
Cities,

1185
02:31:38,870 --> 02:31:38,870
because passing this on as, as lap and participating in the mtecc means that these
Impacted cities now are picking up a cost that

1186
02:31:48,830 --> 02:31:48,830
was not that was not there before. So the again,
The question is very important, when was this first notice to the

1187
02:31:58,070 --> 02:32:01,670
municipalities of when this transition was going to take place? Because I need to know if we had an opportunity to speak up or the cities are impacted,
Had an opportunity to speak up on this unfunded mandate that we're now going to

1188
02:32:11,630 --> 02:32:11,630
be receiving. So madam chair, if maybe somebody from staff can assist us with identifying
The

1189
02:32:21,810 --> 02:32:25,650
timeline in which all these impacted cities were first notified. Well, that's what I was going to say in terms of the projects itself.

1190
02:32:29,130 --> 02:32:29,130
are these projects that are starting this year or,
You know, is this adequate notification for the municipalities?

1191
02:32:39,010 --> 02:32:42,530
yes, I can speak to a couple of those questions. So we did bring this item to our technical advisory committee and our citizens advisory
Committee last week so that they were introduced to this transitioning of

1192
02:32:52,490 --> 02:32:52,490
these five projects. Before that, we did reach out to the city of hallandale beach staff
And to the town of davie staff on paths forward

1193
02:33:02,050 --> 02:33:02,050
for the three projects that they're that are identified on this list here.

1194
02:33:07,050 --> 02:33:07,050
for pembroke road I know there's been ongoing conversation about some right of way
Requirements, and that's why we've coordinated that coordination meeting today, this

1195
02:33:13,730 --> 02:33:13,730
afternoon, to talk more about what that is going to look like into the future.

1196
02:33:18,570 --> 02:33:18,570
for miramar we need to do some outreach for. So we'll chat with sal,
See if we can get a meeting there to talk about that new transition.

1197
02:33:27,350 --> 02:33:30,590
I think in the city of miramar, we have been managing ours. So I don't see, I don't see, I don't know that that's an issue or not.

1198
02:33:35,550 --> 02:33:35,550
but they do need to, I mean, our staff need to know so that they can plan accordingly.

1199
02:33:41,390 --> 02:33:43,950
and I would think all the other agencies as well. If I may, to expand on what chris mentioned. Also pembroke of this list,
Pembroke road is the one that is more advanced.

1200
02:33:50,270 --> 02:33:53,430
the department is working on design right of way right now. So construction is next. We're having the meeting today.

1201
02:33:56,590 --> 02:33:56,590
the next two 130 and 148 avenue. What we have as of now is feasibility studies and project
Development environment studies.

1202
02:34:04,710 --> 02:34:04,710
not all the phases are funded. So probably we're looking at five plus years out before
Construction can start.

1203
02:34:10,950 --> 02:34:13,190
so there's plenty of time at this point, right. To start the coordination directly with the cities on this.

1204
02:34:16,070 --> 02:34:16,070
okay. Alright. Remember? Good. You're good. Yeah.

1205
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:25,160
I just needed a date, that's all. Please. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate the presentation.

1206
02:34:27,800 --> 02:34:27,800
okay. Mr. Caletka. Any last words? Anything? I don't want to.

1207
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:37,400
I know we don't meet again till february, so I'm trying to make sure I. I don't close out. And if there's anything that you need to get done.

1208
02:34:42,040 --> 02:34:42,040
I just wanted to mention. Thank you, madam chair that in february,
We do have our safe roads summit that is coming forward.

1209
02:34:50,680 --> 02:34:50,680
and, of course at the executive committee, you approved the funding for the food and
Beverages,

1210
02:34:55,320 --> 02:34:55,320
so be on the lookout for that. We like to always have as many board members as possible
And will be in the brand new broward convention center.

1211
02:35:03,320 --> 02:35:06,320
wonderful. And you'll send something out to us on that? Absolutely. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for all of your work all year.

1212
02:35:11,160 --> 02:35:14,960
have a happy holiday. I'll see you guys in february. See you next year.