1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,080 About that, under commissioner comments, but not to expect them, I'm sure. Please join me in the Pleasure of Allegiance. 2 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:20,660 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands. 3 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:40,200 Okay, approval of the agenda, any questions concerns on the agenda for we've moved to approve? 4 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:52,610 Yes. 5 00:00:53,950 --> 00:00:55,290 I moved to approve. 6 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:56,850 Well second. 7 00:00:57,490 --> 00:00:57,860 Thank you. 8 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Chair Taylor? 9 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:04,460 Vice Chair in there? 10 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:04,780 Yes. 11 00:01:05,060 --> 00:01:05,620 Commissioner there. 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Motion passes. 13 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,580 Thank you. 14 00:01:08,580 --> 00:01:11,580 And we have a guest speaker on public comments, Peter. 15 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:14,460 I'd like to come up and share your thoughts. 16 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,860 These are for items not on the agenda. 17 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:21,120 And if you haven't been, if you're not familiar, 18 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:23,100 we'll certainly love to hear what you have to say. 19 00:01:23,260 --> 00:01:25,740 We just can't interact a lot since it's not an agendas item, 20 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:27,020 but we can bring it back later. 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,120 That's what you're asking for. 22 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:29,260 Yeah, no problem. 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:36,400 I'm relatively new in town and really love it and enjoy the park. 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,880 or what it has to offer, sometimes I go to sit in the park by the fountain. 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,780 And one thing struck me, though, was that I didn't see, or I shouldn't put it differently. 26 00:01:48,420 --> 00:01:52,780 I wished there were more people around me and who like it interact with in me. 27 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,740 And so I proposed an idea to Chrissy a couple months ago, and that was that I would be 28 00:01:59,740 --> 00:02:07,720 going to spearhead an installation of like a, that's, it's a game that they plan to 29 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,600 sell the France called Patunk. It's like Bachi ball or lawn bowling, and it doesn't 30 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,420 take much room, and there's so much bark dust there. I thought that would a great 31 00:02:16,420 --> 00:02:23,660 place for one to little courts, and they're generally 15 meters long, four meters 32 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:31,520 wide and you know if you've been to the, to the French you see the all the old guys in the 33 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,700 in the park you know throwing the hollow metal balls at a target and how do you spell it? 34 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Um, or how do you get, we get P.E.T. A.N.Q.U.E. 35 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,660 Sorry that I mean, I don't know. I don't know what, I don't know what to do. 36 00:02:49,940 --> 00:02:57,820 It's an excuse to socialize and it's cool and it seems like it belongs in Libby Park 37 00:02:57,820 --> 00:02:58,420 in my opinion. 38 00:02:58,620 --> 00:03:04,540 It seems like it would be a great fit and I don't think there'd be much cost and I would 39 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:10,600 have to be happy to sort of sponsor it and lead the work efforts and if you think that would 40 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,060 be a good idea and we can find a spot for it. 41 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:15,620 Yeah, that's it. 42 00:03:15,740 --> 00:03:18,260 OK, maybe we can place it on next month's agenda, 43 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,200 so we can discuss it and maybe get some cost estimates. 44 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,340 You call it Patonky, but Paul, is that what 45 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:27,240 it's just called? 46 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:29,900 It's Patonky, but Bachi Ball, you know, 47 00:03:30,060 --> 00:03:33,680 B.O.C.C.E. I think it's a very similar game. 48 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:34,240 OK. 49 00:03:34,380 --> 00:03:36,740 And if you want, I have, I put it out some information. 50 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,220 Sure. 51 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:38,180 Yeah, I think you can take it. 52 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:44,040 You also have a business, this sort of, 53 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:51,180 you can 54 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:51,760 Very cool. 55 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,120 The double stripples and you just try to throw your balls and have them land next to the target 56 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,280 and it's, you compete against another two hundred. 57 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:04,840 Almost like, what's that one cornhole, kind of like cornhole, that's similar to the same kind 58 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,220 of... 59 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:06,300 Same kind of vibe. 60 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:08,260 Throw them something like something like that. 61 00:04:10,450 --> 00:04:16,170 It looks like it's really similar to like a horseshoe size footprint almost, right? 62 00:04:16,410 --> 00:04:17,310 Like that's about that size. 63 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:19,490 And then usually on sort of real fun. 64 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,240 Interesting. 65 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:27,010 Well, thank you for sharing. 66 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:29,390 Oh, cool. 67 00:04:30,010 --> 00:04:30,030 Okay. 68 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:35,400 Thank you. 69 00:04:35,780 --> 00:04:36,640 Oh, you got this in picture. 70 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:41,810 Okay. 71 00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:43,230 Thank you for that. 72 00:04:46,140 --> 00:04:50,920 On our consent calendar, we have the minutes for the August 6th meeting. 73 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:54,460 Any, um, the pretty brief. 74 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,940 Did you have a chance to look them over? 75 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,040 I don't, Brenda. 76 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,380 I don't think you were here. 77 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:10,000 Oh, very good. Okay. I don't have any changes of substance. 78 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:18,200 I'll make a motion to approve. Motion to approve the August 6, 2026, Ohio Parks and Recreation Commission 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:27,030 minutes. And I'll second. Thank you. Okay. And moving right on to our presentation and discussion 80 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:33,790 items. We have this Arizona playground reconstruction update. We have a recommendation to receive 81 00:05:33,790 --> 00:05:39,050 to staff report, discuss and recommend the list of recommended playground equipment structures 82 00:05:39,050 --> 00:05:44,690 for the service of the playground from the playground ad hoc committee, and there's a report 83 00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:47,770 in your packet. 84 00:05:50,270 --> 00:05:58,890 I will have a comment before we receive that one second, I wrote some notes. 85 00:05:58,890 --> 00:06:12,890 Okay. Also, before we jump into the discussion, I did want to make a moment to clarify the detail from last month about the company. 86 00:06:13,550 --> 00:06:21,030 It's not play well. It's play world. So that was just a clerical, you know, mistake. 87 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:21,810 I don't know, 88 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:30,400 I don't, I don't, I don't, my understanding, I think I'm on, but it isn't play 89 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,180 world, it's Dave Bang, and that is one of their catalogs. 90 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Well, no, play world is a company. 91 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,640 I, yes, they, yeah, we're working through Dave Bang, correct? 92 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Through Dave Bang. 93 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:42,840 Okay, correct. 94 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,020 And through Dave Bang, there's more than one catalog. 95 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,040 There's Berliner. 96 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,340 I just wanted to clarify, it's not play well, it's play world. 97 00:06:51,340 --> 00:07:04,900 Yeah, yeah, that's a play world but I think I made that mistake in the agenda. There is bolt. He doesn't carry it. But there is bolt. Okay, yeah, yeah, he only carries me. I got it. So the report last month should have said play world. 98 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:20,900 Yes, actually it's just a day bang. Okay, because to really clarify on this whole process, we aren't working with just one catalog or with one playground equipment company. Right. We're working with a firm that works with multiple catalogs multiple companies where you can get the equipment just to because we're 99 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:23,900 Okay, because I'm also, I'm also one catalog. 100 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:27,040 I'm also aware that there is some confusion 101 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,900 that some commission members may have 102 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:31,920 and experiencing frustration 103 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,520 in possibly wanting more information. 104 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,880 You know, what I wanted to find out here 105 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,160 is if you could clarify, you know, 106 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:42,940 what information you did need 107 00:07:42,940 --> 00:07:46,500 so that we can come back with a more, you know, 108 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:49,860 robust report or whatever you wanted 109 00:07:49,860 --> 00:07:52,480 to see regarding that after your update though, of course. 110 00:07:53,220 --> 00:07:58,300 But just let me know, and if you have other ideas 111 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:02,600 that you want the ad hoc, the playground ad hoc 112 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,320 to know as well to come back or to review 113 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,300 that things that we could discuss too. 114 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,060 So that actually goes right along before, 115 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:12,820 if you don't mind before we go into the update, 116 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:15,740 I just wanted to do exactly that into backtrack 117 00:08:15,740 --> 00:08:18,400 and just from as a chair, setting the agenda, 118 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:28,940 like my perspective to keep the commission moving along and to not have to learn something 119 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:34,000 tonight and then say okay you have all next month to research it and it just like delays 120 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,440 things if we could like this commission is being asked to provide direction or make a recommendation 121 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,340 but the material facts we don't get them if we're if we're getting them orally we're getting 122 00:08:43,340 --> 00:08:49,960 for the first time tonight. And we don't have any time to research the factual stuff. So for me, 123 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:56,040 what I would like to see is in the reports like for this particular thing, I'd like to know 124 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:02,540 that we've had a previous action, you know, the Commission made a motion last meeting. 125 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:09,020 We talked about making the purchase separate from the install because of the grant deadline. 126 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,980 I would like to see the staff report say, you know, this is where we're at, this is where we were, this is where we're at. 127 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:22,760 And I think it's important to just to have that context to update like on the written details that we talk about. 128 00:09:23,220 --> 00:09:31,260 And then also, I mean, I just think it my goal is pretty simple. We want to have the information ahead of time so we can research it 129 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:37,120 so that the public has it so that we have it and we can have a productive meeting. That's really what I guess. 130 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,120 And I would just kind of piggyback on that, 131 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:44,700 because it is for the commission, but it's also really for the public. 132 00:09:45,020 --> 00:09:47,680 And the public is coming to each time there are new people. 133 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:50,700 So if we give them an incomplete picture without the background, 134 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,640 because typically my reference point to back when we back two years ago 135 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,320 is we have a background section. 136 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,960 And the background section would set the stage for understanding. 137 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:06,160 We're understanding the project, where we're doing it, where we're doing it, kind of some specificity to how much we've already gotten. 138 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:12,180 Done in the process, where we are in the process, and then it would introduce, like, a recommendation, background overview. 139 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:12,980 So it's repetitive. 140 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Is that what you're saying? 141 00:10:13,940 --> 00:10:14,920 Yeah, that's like the format. 142 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:15,580 Yeah, I remember. 143 00:10:15,580 --> 00:10:20,860 It's a little repetitive, but that means that any time the public comes to it, because people are coming to this all at very different times. 144 00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:22,280 Different stages of the process. 145 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,080 And so if we want to make sure that whatever report we're putting out is a whatever staff report is coming out, 146 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,540 helps them to understand what we're going to talk about and what we're trying to accomplish. 147 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:36,920 So it invites everyone in, because without the background, I mean, so every time we're 148 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,580 the written, I think the hope is to read it from the perspective of someone who's never heard of this. 149 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,720 And we're not going to have to be super lengthy, but just some deep, just a snapshot of, you know, 150 00:10:48,340 --> 00:10:53,520 the history, kind of, lead it the background, leading up to it, and then, and then, like, for example, 151 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,700 if I would have had like some links, 152 00:10:55,860 --> 00:10:58,480 I would have liked to have been able to click on them 153 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,160 and just see like, oh yeah, I can see where the ad hoc 154 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,460 is gonna talk about this tonight, 155 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,340 and I have a little bit more knowledge, 156 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:07,780 like it doesn't mean the oral part is where I think 157 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:08,440 we really go back to. 158 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,880 And I'm looking at the current staff report, 159 00:11:12,820 --> 00:11:15,020 I think I'd put background discussion, 160 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:17,420 and then typically the last thing is the recommendation. 161 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,500 And that's where staff has their opportunity 162 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:21,640 to give us their specific recommendation. 163 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:30,680 It isn't what's absolutely going to happen, but with all the research that they've done and the information you're bringing to us, and you've analyzed it, you know, then you present what you think 164 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,060 Next steps are, and that would be the last piece from, you know, as the staff recommendation. 165 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:42,960 So I think it's kind of almost like we, if we got a template together, where we have the same questions we're asking every time. 166 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Yeah, and I like that background, which is a recommendation background, well actually I think 167 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,520 we can kind of use, yeah, for the very end, because that's the staff's time to participate. 168 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,520 So start with background and then go, you know, update, yes, and then, you know, and then what 169 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,500 we're going to discuss tonight, and I think that would help. 170 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,380 So is that, does that make sense? 171 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,320 It makes sense. 172 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:02,640 Yeah. 173 00:12:02,820 --> 00:12:06,180 And I think that we should work towards that for sure, so we will. 174 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:11,620 Well and then I think the thing with that is, is that the only way that works is if that 175 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:18,300 process starts early this month, yes, so that it's not an end of the month challenge 176 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:21,280 because then everyone's on their heels and it's tied together. 177 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,500 Urgent. 178 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:25,100 And it's that it definitely was frustrating. 179 00:12:25,660 --> 00:12:32,520 And then I just would say also just to not specific to this, but speaking on the playground 180 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:40,260 before we move on, like the piggybacking presentation was, you know, I've heard of the 181 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:46,500 and stuff but like the source well links to the other projects that we're piggybacking on. 182 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:53,120 I think that's really easy to include so that if we're going to piggyback on another city, 183 00:12:53,460 --> 00:13:01,200 they have all the RFP that source well has, you know, the RFP, the entire bidding process is there, 184 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:10,240 pricing, all that's included and it just seems easy to put a link in the document so that the 185 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,260 They choose to come and weigh in on something specific that has to do with that, at least 186 00:13:14,260 --> 00:13:17,480 they'll have an idea of what we're working with. 187 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:22,660 So I don't know that we've identified what project we're sourcing. 188 00:13:22,940 --> 00:13:23,180 Yeah, right. 189 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:24,360 You haven't identified anything. 190 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,880 So that's what we have this update for. 191 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,400 And then we'll come back next month. 192 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,800 If, you know, how we've identified the project. 193 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,920 Well, this update is going to be the update from the playground ad hoc committee. 194 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:37,660 I don't know what you. 195 00:13:38,220 --> 00:13:38,800 No, no, no. 196 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:45,240 the source well and all of that, we, I have not heard yet what we're piggybacking on. 197 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,740 We don't have any of those details so I need to talk to public works about that because 198 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:53,360 nothing has moved since the meetings that we had. 199 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:58,940 Yeah. My understanding from researching it was that when we piggyback on something it has to be 200 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:06,820 something I think the term would be similar like in kind. It has to be a similar project just that 201 00:14:06,820 --> 00:14:11,220 banks is done business with another city. I don't, it wasn't my understanding that that 202 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:13,560 qualifies it. It has to be a similar, 203 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,000 like if we were to write the RFP, it would look 204 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,660 very similar to the successful RFP that you would find on source. Well, that's my understanding, 205 00:14:23,380 --> 00:14:29,580 but I might be misunderstanding, but I think we should know that. Yeah. I mean, it's certainly 206 00:14:29,580 --> 00:14:34,800 the ad hoc should, yeah, maybe have a meeting with public works in you or something to 207 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:43,040 to understand what that is, because there's a lot of sources, there's a lot of documents in there that you know, and you can see pricing and stuff. 208 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:47,800 Okay, so I'm glad that we're all on the same page with that. 209 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,140 Thank you. 210 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Yeah, we did. 211 00:14:51,340 --> 00:14:59,720 So, okay, so we, we're going to get a staff update or just the ad hoc update. 212 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:11,020 Well, or is it combined? So it was going to be the ad hoc update, but I do have another update to add to my first one. Okay. And that this is some positive news. 213 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:22,800 So I received confirmation this week that the State of California Department of Parks and Recreation has extended our grant performance and contract period to June 30th, 2029. 214 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:31,900 So we have time, but let's not wait, but let's not wait, we can forget that I said that, and we can keep moving. 215 00:15:33,140 --> 00:15:36,860 But they've secured the funds, those are safe until we get the project done. 216 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:38,220 Okay, that's urgent. 217 00:15:38,420 --> 00:15:42,180 Okay, I feel better about the delay or the waiting for it. 218 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:42,740 I'm doing so. 219 00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:44,220 Doing it right. 220 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Okay, so why don't you before the ad hoc gives the update, would you mind 221 00:15:48,720 --> 00:16:07,900 bring, explain to the commission about the Dave, Dave Banks associate meeting and how that came to light because I thought I thought too based on the report we're meeting with Playwell, which I guess we don't sell or play world or whatever like a playground company, but we're meeting with like kind of like a distributor. 222 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:16,220 Yeah, so play world does not sell their own equipment. Okay. You have to go through another distributor. So that is Dave Banks. 223 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:22,860 And did they approach us or did we have we bought from them before or how did we find them not that I know of okay we could have I didn't 224 00:16:23,660 --> 00:16:27,500 Find anything that says that we've I thought I thought we found them through source well 225 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:28,940 No 226 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:34,080 How did we find no so I found them on a cover of a magazine? 227 00:16:34,420 --> 00:16:37,040 It's just stuff that I look through I was looking through all the magazines 228 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:44,720 When I said play well and then play world but we found out that they do work with source well 229 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,360 So, you know, it would be an easier process. 230 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:50,200 And so, how did we go from source world to date back? 231 00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:55,180 They said that she just said she found... 232 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:56,020 She found them. 233 00:16:56,020 --> 00:16:56,780 She just found them. 234 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:58,580 And then he qualified as working. 235 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:00,780 Oh, it was actually public works. 236 00:17:00,780 --> 00:17:01,020 Yeah. 237 00:17:01,020 --> 00:17:05,300 That mentioned source well, because I don't deal with, you know, those types of things. 238 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,420 And they said that they are actually play world is included with the source well. 239 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:16,100 So, that's why public works mentioned that it would be a much easier process just to buy the equipment. 240 00:17:16,780 --> 00:17:23,520 So we can speak to them if you have more detailed questions because I just I might not have the answer 241 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Concert because that's a week. We did we went when you because we got to that meeting and that at that meeting 242 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,480 I think I thought it was play source because that I thought so I'd seen that somewhere 243 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,980 I looked at the play world 244 00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:37,980 I looked at play source so many things and then we were on a play world 245 00:17:37,980 --> 00:17:43,360 I looked at that and I mean that meeting it was all of a sudden day bang and and so okay 246 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:46,540 Well, let's look daybang up because I think you probably did it the same way I did while you were 247 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:51,880 Not to cutting on the on the on the on the meeting and then we had the rep from daybang 248 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,180 Yes, so then you and I will go ahead is that is that the do you want to have any 249 00:17:56,180 --> 00:18:00,820 It's just for the equipment on all yeah, that's all and so then we had a meeting 250 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:09,200 Yes together about after looking at daybang site and one of the big things is they rep multiple catalogs for multiple companies 251 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:18,380 And so we sat down and did a review of what was available regionally and what kind of products we thought would be, you know, 252 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:29,040 I appealing and well that would meet the good fit for Ohio and meeting the surveys and kind of what we've been talking about the idea of like something physical something 253 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:36,400 Interactive something accessible. Yeah, so physical and adventurous play and we so we put together a list that we sent off 254 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:44,020 to Christy and to Lundy for the works. And did Eric get it as well? Eric? Are you 255 00:18:44,020 --> 00:18:51,060 me? Yes, yes, yes. Okay. So, Eric, he is the rap front. Oh, okay. Okay. And so, we're 256 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:54,720 going forward with, you know, and I, well, I'll start with you guys. It didn't make it 257 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,520 in time to get in the packet, but happy to share it. Yes. And happy to share that, you 258 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,480 know, if you are interested in looking stuff up and seeing what we're looking at 259 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:13,440 It's actually a lot of fun, yeah, DaveBang.com, I think it's just going under catalogs and there's just amazing what's available. 260 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,340 And so we really need some guidance. 261 00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:29,840 It sounds like from Lindsay, as to if we can pick, like is there a project that he's done that will qualify for piggybacking for the brand that you guys ever kind of sourcing? 262 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:41,020 We actually put in their Huntington Beach project that we found that it has some pictures that we would really like and some of the equipment that we would really like and gave that link to them. 263 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,940 And it's a different, it's not play world, it's for winter, but because we really liked a lot of what they did. 264 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:52,960 And then the other thing is, it could be multiple companies, then you do different parts with different companies and you come in to change. 265 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:59,960 And that's not uncommon, right, to see one piece from one company that you're really interested in and then another piece from a 266 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:15,980 So we really need some guidance. I feel like, yes, we, I feel like we keep starting, but we're missing the starting point. 267 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:42,140 Well, I think we just need to I think whether it's the commissioner or the ad hoc that takes the next steps, it will obviously I think it would be easier to do it out, you know, during this next month, but to get with Kristi and engineering, I think we need to get clarification clear on if we're piggybacking and we're doing it through source well, what is which what are we sourcing on source well, because it has all these different contracts. 268 00:20:42,140 --> 00:20:46,840 Sersville is a way that for just a little explanation because it's complicated. 269 00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:49,440 I'm only beginning to understand it. 270 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:57,000 Same thing, cities, agencies, schools who public agencies that buy materials and products, 271 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,260 not services, but materials and products. 272 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:08,940 These companies like Sersville do these really big RFPs and then they create contracts with all of these different companies with set price points. 273 00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:15,140 So what they do as part of the RFU that source will hold, this is my understanding and I could correct me if I'm wrong 274 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,340 But they then you can use you can use that contract that they've already agreed to with those prices 275 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,780 I think so 276 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:28,540 There's some confusion as to whether we need to reference a specific project 277 00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:36,500 that's done with similar materials like literally similar to what we would want to buy or if it is just picking a 278 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:43,380 contract with a particular brand and then knowing what's on their contract and what 279 00:21:43,380 --> 00:21:47,660 the prices are because it's a discounted price if you go through these large source 280 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:52,280 well there's like three or four others that because in order to be awarded their 281 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,440 original RFP they would have had to have been competing with that agency yes and it 282 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:04,600 was all negotiated so yeah it is really complex I just think that public works might have 283 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:11,320 help give give you a little guidance on yeah and maybe just to do your own due diligence look 284 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:18,560 at the links but you know on source well and I I got on there and this is not to say that I 285 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,360 didn't find my way to the right spot but I could find that they had contracts and who they had 286 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:27,620 them with but none of the details of the contracts so I don't know if you maybe need access I don't know 287 00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:34,760 do we have an account which have you looked at source well yet Christie for public view or what 288 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:40,020 need to do to be able to see some stuff okay okay we just want to make sure that we're 289 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:46,200 complying with our especially when we're making recommendations to purchase you know hundreds 290 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,320 of thousands of dollars worth of material we want to make sure that we're not sold sourcing 291 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:57,000 without piggybacking properly. So I think we've gotten a lot done you and I had a very good 292 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,380 discussion and really looked at a lot of stuff and kind of honed in on some priorities for 293 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:06,940 accessibility and inclusion and the kinds of things that we're hoping that it will create and the different types of spaces. 294 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:18,100 So there's gathering spaces and like basic you know kids that work kids play together collaboratively and then some more individualized spaces and I it's a it's super exciting. 295 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,100 And Dave Bings will help us do the layout as well. 296 00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:26,640 This is a unique thing to playground equipment is design is free. 297 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:32,420 So, you're going to buy all the equipment from them and they throw in the design as part of it. 298 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:38,380 So, that is not a separate line item, so you're, and that's how it's still, you're buying just the product, 299 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:43,920 but they do the design for you. But it's the kind of design, I mean, you know, it's like, drop this, drop that. 300 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:48,900 I mean, like, you know, they put it together. And so, and surfacing is always going to be a question, you know, 301 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:55,440 how much, you know, how we make it as accessible as possible, what materials we can afford to how the path, you know, 302 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,520 They'll help you all that kind of design work. 303 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:03,780 And then I know that we're going to be short in public works come. 304 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:05,640 I think December I heard. 305 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,060 Should we do we have a goal to get the RFP out for the construction of it? 306 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,920 Or at least get it drafted before we have it saffed turnover? 307 00:24:14,740 --> 00:24:15,400 That would be great. 308 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,060 I think so. 309 00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:19,860 I think we have to know what we're what, I mean, 310 00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:23,160 because of the way we're doing this, we need the equipment in the design before we can 311 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,160 go farther forward with that. 312 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,240 I wonder if we can use the old RFP, like, as a template to, like, 313 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,740 yeah, for just seems like the RFP's take so long to get drafted, 314 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,580 especially if we're at the holidays and maybe they can basically build it out 315 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:39,420 and then we'll have any details. 316 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,240 Just because she's so familiar with the project thus far. 317 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,040 I was going to ask, I didn't quite understand what it means to piggyback off 318 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,560 of another, like I'm pretty familiar with sourceball and purchasing through sourceball. 319 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040 That's just kind of the term that they use. 320 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:59,820 So the projects that are vetted through and stored at source well, when another government agency 321 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:10,760 And they go, oh, look, this is on here and you can see all the documents and see how they did the RFP. And you go, okay, I'm going to pick this, and it's, they call it piggybacking on that vetted project. 322 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,960 Okay. That's just the term. 323 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,760 We're using a plane. 324 00:25:15,020 --> 00:25:15,740 It's like a plane. 325 00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:22,960 No, you don't even have to do it. You just, the council is my understanding, again, this is totally new. I'm learning also. 326 00:25:23,580 --> 00:25:28,380 But for, and Christie, if you step in, if you, if I'm not correct, or if you know more, 327 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:37,460 we can purchase the playground equipment based off of that RFP of pricing-wise and the city 328 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:43,080 can purchase the equipment and then they just have to do the RFP for the installation. So it 329 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:49,860 separates the two. Now I will just throw this out there and I maybe don't be mad. I'm going to 330 00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:58,040 ask since the deadline is extended. Is there a benefit in doing a package or like we are going 331 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,760 to do an RFP, anyways, for the installation, 332 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,920 is there a benefit in doing one RFP since we have 333 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,440 time? 334 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:09,320 You mean for both? 335 00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:10,320 Yeah, we can. 336 00:26:10,420 --> 00:26:11,080 We can't. 337 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,280 We can't. 338 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,560 We have to do two separate RFP. 339 00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:19,940 Well, that was what I came away with very clearly under $2 million, you can't do that, $2 million 340 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:23,120 and over either some other, this is, I'm just repeating what I've heard. 341 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,220 I can't, I can't explain. 342 00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:35,060 If it's under 2 million and you have to do the RFP for insulation, I'm saying couldn't you, because it would still be under 2 million, wouldn't it be over if you want to do them as together? 343 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:36,880 Okay. 344 00:26:37,980 --> 00:26:42,000 So if you do two separate RFPs, which we don't have to do if we pick you back. 345 00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:43,420 Okay, all right, that makes sense. 346 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:44,500 That's my understanding. 347 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:47,780 Okay. 348 00:26:48,180 --> 00:26:53,300 So question, because you said to go back, our next step, you mentioned something about diving deeper into source 349 00:26:53,300 --> 00:27:02,900 Well, so, because at this point, we had sent recommendations, so thinking is it in the reps' hands to start crafting and seeing or doing things about that? 350 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:10,960 I think that my understanding is that if the ad hoc committee can come up with a recommendation, 351 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,720 we need to probably run it through public works to make sure that it's viable, 352 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,080 right? 353 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,300 But I think that the thought is this, we give them this recommendation, they have staff's 354 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:33,460 recommendation, they have the survey, and I think typically they would just produce 355 00:27:33,460 --> 00:27:36,120 like three or four different designs, 356 00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:39,680 and it, you know, with different goals in mind, 357 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,180 like we'd like to see something with full accessibility, but we're not sure that's in our 358 00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:43,480 budget. 359 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,420 Okay, so we're not putting budget on it yet, right now we're putting on, this is what, you 360 00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:51,260 know, we would really like, and then that would come back to this commission, and then 361 00:27:51,260 --> 00:27:55,480 public can weigh in and we can have a discussion and then we'll make a recommendation on it. 362 00:27:55,700 --> 00:28:03,660 So I think the next step would be that based on your report tonight that you have kind of a 363 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:10,260 manufacturer that you like and you'd like to ensure that public works is on board with that 364 00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:16,440 manufacturer. Is that something that we need to make have a recommendation for? Can you just like work 365 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,680 was staffed to, I think now that we've got our recommendation in, and I've seen that the rep 366 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,500 is happy to have another meeting with us, so now that he has what we've given him, it's 367 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:30,160 probably a really good time to have another meeting. So we can all be on the phone together 368 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:35,080 and have a discussion, and because we had questions in our recommendations too that we didn't 369 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,500 have answers to about the equipment and installation and some other stuff. So we should probably 370 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:45,720 just touch faces with Lindy before that to make sure that that particular model or 371 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,380 manufacture is okay. She can be included on the meeting. And she was in a 372 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:55,800 lack of meeting and I think that's so we could work together. Yeah, no, that's 373 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:02,120 absolutely. I think that's our our ad hoc meeting next up. Yeah, okay. So just 374 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,680 update and then maybe next month we might have enough material to make a 375 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,280 recommendation to move forward. 376 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,000 My next month, even more Ms. Defender, maybe? 377 00:29:13,180 --> 00:29:14,100 We'll see. 378 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:15,860 I'm November November. 379 00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:20,540 Well, and I think the goal and then for our staff report, 380 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,620 it will be robust and there'll be a lot of information in there 381 00:29:23,620 --> 00:29:27,660 and then we'll have everyone able to see everything that we're seeing. 382 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,800 I'd really like that. 383 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080 I think the public is going to show up with a lot of input. 384 00:29:33,020 --> 00:29:36,960 They did before, and it was a really nice interactive process 385 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,420 and they had a lot to, they just had a lot to share and a lot of great ideas. 386 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:47,760 So it would be really nice to have that, and maybe we even have to have it for, like, 387 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,900 to depending on the outfit, turn out, you know, maybe we can have it for two meetings. 388 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,880 I think what, yes, and what maybe is, is that, you know, we come up with something, 389 00:29:57,780 --> 00:29:59,820 we get more information, we go back, we come back again. 390 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,380 I mean, it doesn't always go one and done or even two and done kind of thing to get to the right design. 391 00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:21,640 But I also think that recommendation of basically preparing a draft of the RFP for construction. 392 00:30:22,780 --> 00:30:26,020 And then filling in the details as we know them is not a matter. 393 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:29,080 Yeah, to maybe ask if she can get going on it. 394 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,820 Maybe at your next meeting that you schedule you guys can talk about that. 395 00:30:32,060 --> 00:30:32,420 That was good. 396 00:30:32,420 --> 00:30:32,720 Okay. 397 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,020 We don't need to agendas that though. 398 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,280 We'll just put playground update and then hopefully we can meet with them. 399 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,900 You can meet with them prior to so we have enough time to get that report drafted. 400 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640 I think since we're doing online they're probably pretty quickly. 401 00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:48,720 I think he's so easily available. 402 00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:50,300 It sounded a little bit like his favorite. 403 00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:55,860 What was the, I know you said it but what was the name of the Dave Bings? 404 00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:57,500 Oh no, for Leonard. 405 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,000 For Leonard. 406 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,460 For Leonard. 407 00:31:02,150 --> 00:31:03,370 On Dave Bings website. 408 00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:04,970 They have the other looks on there. 409 00:31:04,970 --> 00:31:11,450 Yes, go to the catalogs tab and then also have featured projects too that are fun to look at. 410 00:31:11,710 --> 00:31:14,890 Okay. Wonderful. That's really exciting. 411 00:31:16,130 --> 00:31:16,390 Yep. 412 00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:18,230 Okay. 413 00:31:19,570 --> 00:31:22,050 And moving any other comments or questions? 414 00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:29,850 Moving on to our solar shade at Libby update. 415 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:30,990 Yes. 416 00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:38,030 So, at the August 6th, 2026, Parks and Recreation Commission meeting during the managed 417 00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:42,870 report, it included a discussion of a proposed new solar structure at Libby Park. 418 00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:48,050 Following for the review, it has been decided that this installation will not proceed. 419 00:31:49,150 --> 00:31:55,590 Staff has now considering an alternate location that would minimize impacts on the open space. 420 00:31:55,590 --> 00:32:03,150 Because I think what I mentioned then is that it might be in a grass area, so they're not going to be doing that any longer. 421 00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:10,550 They're looking at different areas. Still at Libby. Still at Libby, though. Yeah, possibly over bleachers, maybe. 422 00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:14,930 Oh, that might be interesting. And it would give some shade to benefits. Yeah. 423 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:17,830 I feel like that would be great. So I'll keep you updated. Okay. 424 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:21,530 But I just wanted to clarify that that is not not going on any further. 425 00:32:21,530 --> 00:32:28,770 Okay. I'm not going to have that on the future agenda items unless you have an update. We can add it the last minute. 426 00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:30,090 That's good. 427 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:33,030 Unless, are you okay with that? Are you, do you guys wanting? 428 00:32:33,790 --> 00:32:34,130 I think that's nice. 429 00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:38,810 It would be nice to know as they're, what they're discussing when they're discussing it. 430 00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:41,770 So we're just discussing versus hearing what happens. 431 00:32:41,770 --> 00:32:43,750 I'll just add it for a brief update there. 432 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:47,550 I just mean that so that we're, it's not already happened when we hear about it. 433 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:49,470 We hear about it before when they're having those discussions. 434 00:32:49,470 --> 00:32:51,450 Yeah, I think that would be helpful. 435 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000 I'm trying to keep it or notes on future stuff. 436 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,140 Okay, Sarasote snack bar. 437 00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:02,320 I'm sorry before I move on, 438 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,660 any other comments or concerns on the shade 439 00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:07,980 and I'll put it on the agenda for next month 440 00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,200 and we can just have if there's no update. 441 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,160 We'll just say no update. 442 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:13,580 Okay, Sarasote snack bar update. 443 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,540 Yes, so as you know, 444 00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:20,960 last Friday was going to be the inspection, 445 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,600 the final inspection for the Sarasady Snack Bar services. 446 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:33,200 The health department inspection did require that the city is to replace our refrigerator 447 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,800 freezer because it is failing. 448 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:43,300 So, new refrigerator freezer anticipated to arrive tomorrow or Monday, which of course would 449 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:44,200 be Tuesday for us. 450 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,000 Yes, Monday is a holiday. 451 00:33:46,260 --> 00:33:52,400 It is the only remaining item required by health department for the concessions down to open. 452 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,860 They also did say that we needed to replace our water heater, it is not commercial. 453 00:34:00,220 --> 00:34:07,900 Water heater will also need to be replaced, but it does not need to be replaced prior to the stand-upening. 454 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:10,480 But it is urgent, they said. 455 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,760 So we will work on that. 456 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640 The news snack bar operator anticipates 457 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,200 being able to open seven days after the successful delivery 458 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000 and installation of the refrigerator freezer. 459 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:24,960 Who's installing it? 460 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,060 Who's installing it? 461 00:34:26,180 --> 00:34:26,620 The refrigerator? 462 00:34:29,620 --> 00:34:30,220 Stevenson. 463 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:31,820 Oh, like the person we're buying it from? 464 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Yeah. 465 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:32,820 Stevenson. 466 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:34,300 So will it be installed? 467 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,320 Well, it actually might be our maintenance department 468 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,960 if they just drop it off. 469 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,880 Brie has been working with them, so I can find out that they might just drop it off and we have to 470 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,860 So we're thinking like September 15th 471 00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:57,280 Is that what you're thinking? Yeah, okay. Yeah, good timing. There are so many people at that park right now so many 472 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,020 And what is the report on here says no fiscal impact, but what is the fiscal impact on that? 473 00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:13,720 Oh, it is around 5,000. I could get you the exact details. And how much is the water heater? 474 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:15,000 Do you know? I'm just curious. 475 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:22,440 20, about 2,500. That has not been ordered yet, though. We're still doing some research. Public works. 476 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:28,600 something like that. Yeah. That's a lot and the show was 10 so almost 17,500 on that. It's 477 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,840 a lot. Okay, okay, great. Of course you just a question. Oh, I'm sorry. 478 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:38,390 Right. Right by the field, 479 00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:44,750 the softball fields. Yeah. Oh, I need a house. Uh-huh. Yeah. 480 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:50,180 Okay, any, um, any other questions or 481 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,100 That's exciting. 482 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,220 Very exciting. 483 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,960 And I think that'll be, if they open up, 484 00:35:57,140 --> 00:35:57,900 Isn't there a softball? 485 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,960 What's happening at the park that week? 486 00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:02,840 We have, is there a softball in Tuesday? 487 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,580 Yeah, the softball just ended. 488 00:36:06,780 --> 00:36:07,880 And it just had championship. 489 00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:10,080 So it might be a while for that. 490 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,640 There's a game. 491 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:12,060 Anyway, it's so on that field. 492 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,420 Is that just a weekend practice and games too? 493 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Mm-hmm. 494 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:21,720 And then last night I was there pretty late and there was a lot of people in the field for soccer. 495 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,460 Yeah, just for practice. 496 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,780 No, you should go either. 497 00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:25,480 You should be crazy. 498 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,120 They have a soccer league now. 499 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,800 Oh, for adult. 500 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,020 Started a soccer league for adult. 501 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,960 Oh, I played that in my youth. 502 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,440 Still openings. 503 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,660 Till West Beach, not the air out of me. 504 00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:38,960 You knock me over and I was like, I've done. 505 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:40,240 I'll never forget that. 506 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:41,520 I've never had that happen before. 507 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,220 They're still out. 508 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,900 Yeah, now that's, I played co-ed and that was an experience. 509 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,820 I never forget that. 510 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,020 I wasn't a very good supplier. 511 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,900 Okay, thank you for that. 512 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:53,720 15. 513 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,900 And request on that. 514 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:02,180 Since it'll be between meetings, could you send updates to all of us when things are happening 515 00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:05,000 like the opening and then the days and the hours? 516 00:37:06,060 --> 00:37:07,500 And that'd be cool to be. 517 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:14,300 And until we get the other two commissioners on the city email, which needs to happen, 518 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:18,120 We need to use their other emails, because they're not getting anything. 519 00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:24,540 I have that under my, under my, yeah, but until then, just fortunately don't have it, 520 00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:27,020 and send it out that way before all those kinds of events. 521 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:28,400 Thank you. 522 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:32,280 Okay, our youth programming review. 523 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:42,770 I know Jim had some input on this, so maybe we can talk about, 524 00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:51,170 We talked about the staff report, but what we would like to see for next month and we can bring it back, but maybe with a more data so we can 525 00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:53,810 Yeah, I mean, let me see here. 526 00:37:54,090 --> 00:38:01,030 I have an overview of what we're doing and pull some numbers out of the system to, you know, what are you participation is? 527 00:38:01,150 --> 00:38:02,710 What programs do you really well? 528 00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:07,810 Where we're getting a lot of program participation, break it down maybe by sports activities 529 00:38:07,810 --> 00:38:15,990 like a kind of robust staff report about all the programming, what we're doing, like the top three of each other. 530 00:38:16,070 --> 00:38:21,950 Like kind of a spreadsheet if you give us everything you're doing and show us the numbers and how we're doing on it. 531 00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:28,790 And where we've had increases and where we've had decreases and new programs and what's new in the last two years. 532 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:31,970 Because I mean before that, I mean it was the before times. 533 00:38:31,970 --> 00:38:38,690 Kristi, remind me that what software is used for registration, active net. 534 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:45,090 Does active net have a report system on it that it's easy to pull numbers or, sure, 535 00:38:45,090 --> 00:38:45,690 hope so. 536 00:38:47,010 --> 00:38:50,510 We've done this before four years ago, back in late before times. 537 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:57,950 We used to get reports on programming, which programs how much, you know, increases decreases 538 00:38:57,950 --> 00:39:02,990 is where we were seeing, but I think this will be just youth focused. 539 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:07,630 I'm imagining that they have a way that you could query numbers. 540 00:39:07,850 --> 00:39:08,530 They should. 541 00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:10,530 They definitely should. 542 00:39:11,490 --> 00:39:17,930 And I think that, so if I understood that item correctly, it was to, we just got the commission 543 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:20,670 to give an overview of what we're offering. 544 00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:25,810 We can discuss it, which ones are, you know, or do we have any gaps? 545 00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:31,290 You know, maybe the public can see that that's an agendized item, kind of like the gentleman that came tonight. 546 00:39:31,650 --> 00:39:37,890 Like, do you have an idea that would fit in this discussion item that you think would, you know, fill this gap? 547 00:39:38,110 --> 00:39:43,510 And the hope would be that we could then, you know, move forward on making some adjustments. 548 00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:50,330 And, but specifically targeted just to the right now, just for youth program review. 549 00:39:50,330 --> 00:39:59,970 Which is a really big chunk. I mean, I'm not saying it's not, it'll take you. It's quite a bit of information to go through and, but I think hopefully that. 550 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:15,140 How will then guide some of the questions? There may be things we pick out that we want to focus on as the commission to help with, you know, to help grow, or be able to brainstorm. But I think this is like the framework to understanding it first and then talking about specifics. 551 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:25,000 And I think this is kind of a living item that we will probably have to bring back over several months because it'll grow. 552 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,800 And usually, when we put something like this on the agenda, especially when it has a lot of details, 553 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:34,140 then the public will reach out. 554 00:40:34,220 --> 00:40:35,200 I get calls throughout the month. 555 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:36,900 They're like, oh, what's going on here? 556 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:40,300 And then again, anyone listening, please come to our meetings. 557 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,540 We would love to have your input. 558 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,580 But that's how I see it happening. 559 00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:45,780 Is that's ideas? 560 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:52,640 Get the data out in the report so that we can kind of process it, discuss it, and then be like, oh, 561 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480 there's only five people at this, how can we grow this program? 562 00:40:56,020 --> 00:40:58,560 Yeah, I can't be an ever-changing document, like a living. 563 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,920 And I think it's interesting to know who we're serving. 564 00:41:01,460 --> 00:41:05,140 What age groups do we, what, what, what, you know, what, if we block it out into different 565 00:41:05,140 --> 00:41:09,360 age groups, who do we serve really well, where, you know, that'll help us see if there's gaps. 566 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,880 I also think it's always nice to know who we're serving in and out of the city. 567 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,500 And I think that that data has been in there before. 568 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,620 I don't, I can't see that. 569 00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:45,000 I think we spoke about it last meeting, Jim mentioned just from my personal experience, I think we do have, we have a gap because of COVID, everything being shut down, those, that generation was our, you know, those were the feeder programs of, you know, whether it was the five and six year olds that then missed out on the seven eight nine activities. 570 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,400 and I think that generation is now just about graduated if you were at that 571 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,360 impressionable age and so I think a look at where what age group you know 572 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,720 we're serving and how that's feeding those older programs I think that I 573 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:05,060 think it'll be really interesting to see how those numbers play out. So I will just 574 00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:09,040 you have to have with that agenda item you'll just work on you'll help work on that 575 00:42:15,390 --> 00:42:21,090 programing review. I mean I can't have the data but we can get it on the agenda and kind 576 00:42:21,090 --> 00:42:27,610 of find a frame it. Okay and then our last item discussion item would be the community 577 00:42:27,610 --> 00:42:37,430 Aquatics program update. We have a staff report and we can go over that. Excited to hear 578 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:42,950 about that. Yeah, so the summer open and lap swim program 579 00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:47,610 operated from June 28 through August 18th. School did start on 580 00:42:47,610 --> 00:42:52,670 the 19th during which the pool welcomed a total of 1,696 581 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:57,370 participants. Staffing for the season included 570 hours from life 582 00:42:57,370 --> 00:43:00,430 guards and 26 hours from recreation leaders, 583 00:43:00,710 --> 00:43:05,570 amounting to 596 hours overall. Now that school is back in 584 00:43:05,570 --> 00:43:11,990 The pool schedule has shifted to Sundays, which was the same time during summer Sundays 2 to 6 p.m. 585 00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:17,570 And then we have also started at Mondays and Wednesdays from 6.45 to 8.45 p.m. 586 00:43:19,110 --> 00:43:23,670 The Ohio Recreation Department encourages the community to follow their Facebook and Instagram accounts 587 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:27,090 for the latest updates regarding pool scheduling and activities. 588 00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:33,330 That's where we'll post any changes, any updates we go straight there. 589 00:43:33,330 --> 00:43:40,630 number one. So yeah it's it's been pretty good and you know there is talk of 590 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:45,030 opening more nights. Right now it's just some of the lifeguards are in sports 591 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:50,410 so we're waiting to see how the kids go. We still have the same amount 592 00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:55,770 everybody's still on staff. Everybody's still around but they're just in their 593 00:43:55,770 --> 00:44:00,250 sports. And are all our lifeguards I'm sorry I didn't use it this summer. 594 00:44:00,250 --> 00:44:05,010 Are they all youth or do we have some adult life guards some adult life? So they're able to okay 595 00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:10,830 Maybe staff when the kids are not available. Yeah, it would be really interesting 596 00:44:10,830 --> 00:44:13,250 I think the lake is in its final throes 597 00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:18,170 Weekend is the last of the water park. Oh, if we can vary over in the industry 598 00:44:18,170 --> 00:44:22,790 To see if there are people there that would like to work during the year that we could pick up 599 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:27,310 Mm-hmm. Oh, that's really interesting just because a lot of those are a lot of college kids too 600 00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:34,470 But some of those, a lot of work with them to see who are high schoolers and reach out to them so that we have a deeper bench. 601 00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:38,750 Because that's part of the part of what's limiting. 602 00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:41,750 Is that part of what's limiting the access at this point? 603 00:44:41,830 --> 00:44:42,510 It's like birds. 604 00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:43,630 Yeah. 605 00:44:43,630 --> 00:44:43,930 Yeah. 606 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:44,590 At this point. 607 00:44:45,110 --> 00:44:50,450 And it was sort of a trial in the beginning to see if people did really come on the week nights. 608 00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:54,530 So we've had an average of about maybe 10 people a night right now. 609 00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:59,970 So, um, most of them lapse swimming or just wreck recreational, I would say. 610 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,980 It's been really hot, too, so I imagine. I know not everybody reads the Ohio Valley news, but there's a certain subset of people that do, and it would be nice to do an article. You guys could submit a little, this is what the summer was. This is what we're now transitioning into the school year. We have Sundays, we have this, and just put it in the paper and maybe you get to do a little, I mean, you might have to write it yourself, but trying to get it in there with a picture. And see, because I think, I think, 611 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:37,000 I definitely think, you know, for, I'm just gonna say I think it swings to the older set 612 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,680 who have the paper. 613 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:43,020 I still have the paper, but, but that, and we don't have as much access always with that group 614 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:43,440 of people. 615 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,980 So it might be good to use that as a, each time we're changing seasons or kind of changing, 616 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,980 trying to give updates there. 617 00:45:51,020 --> 00:45:53,500 So in the mind, we have access to the pool. 618 00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:54,220 Yeah. 619 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,040 And then, what about our swim lessons continues? 620 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,240 is why MCA continuing to do their programming? 621 00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:05,620 Okay, okay, and are we, I know it's not our programming, 622 00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:08,140 but do we promote that? 623 00:46:09,020 --> 00:46:11,100 Since we're not providing it, I think we should promote it. 624 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,300 We do have the link on the Reptapartman's website 625 00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:17,700 and their Aquatics, so it's got like the daily times 626 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,860 and then it says Saturday's swimming lessons 627 00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:23,120 through YMCA, the link, and then the Sunday Times. 628 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,400 So if they were to do an article in the paper, 629 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,160 that would be a great thing to put in there in the same article. 630 00:46:32,110 --> 00:46:36,810 How many people did you say are coming for the Wednesday, 640, the two hours? 631 00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:41,450 Oh, the Monday and the Wednesday, about 10 people averaging per night. 632 00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:47,290 And then refresh my memory, they pay by the session by the hour. 633 00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:48,850 And what's the cost? 634 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:49,610 My dollars. 635 00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:51,890 I think it definitely should go in the paper. 636 00:46:52,170 --> 00:46:52,390 Like people. 637 00:46:56,070 --> 00:47:01,610 The Sunday, the two to six, what, what, why? 638 00:47:02,430 --> 00:47:05,690 How did we figure out our sports, I think, right, or? 639 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:09,230 No, we picked it because we were going to do an earlier 640 00:47:09,230 --> 00:47:11,030 time and people said they wanted to later times. 641 00:47:11,170 --> 00:47:12,050 Then we did a later time. 642 00:47:12,110 --> 00:47:13,310 And then we were thinking maybe even later. 643 00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:14,170 But that was too late. 644 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:16,210 So this was the in-between. 645 00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:17,750 I think we talked about it. 646 00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:18,730 We were like, it gets hot. 647 00:47:19,570 --> 00:47:21,650 It's hotter at like four or five o'clock. 648 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:22,470 Yeah. 649 00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:32,910 So some people have the opinion that if it's too hot outside they won't go swimming and then the other people have the opinion that if it's not hot enough then you know, so it's it's 650 00:47:32,910 --> 00:47:36,510 It's kind of thinking as we ease into this part of the year you're looking at lap summers. 651 00:47:37,090 --> 00:47:41,650 Yeah, so it would be interesting to understand what lap summers would want. 652 00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:44,630 And something like that after work. 653 00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:46,990 Yeah, how does how I kind of put a Sunday. 654 00:47:47,610 --> 00:47:48,350 Yeah, yeah. 655 00:47:48,350 --> 00:47:53,890 Then we've gotten up to over a hundred participants on the Sunday, and it's still at 60 something. 656 00:47:54,590 --> 00:47:58,370 So the hours are good, and we haven't heard of any of you. 657 00:47:58,370 --> 00:48:00,490 And it would be interesting if we could extend the hours. 658 00:48:00,930 --> 00:48:06,510 Like if we were to get more lifeguards from the offseason, like to, you know, 659 00:48:07,310 --> 00:48:12,030 or even if you picked up one more, right, like that you can stagger the interesting. 660 00:48:12,330 --> 00:48:16,410 Well, because left summers are a lot of our morning people, like a lot of them do it more in the morning, 661 00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:20,950 been in the afternoon. But I would be just an interesting thing to try and see if we can figure out 662 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:25,050 what people are looking for on the Sunday. Is there availability early morning? 663 00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:29,590 There's, I believe you guys have a hold. It's available to you the whole day on Sunday. 664 00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:33,430 Sunday is available. Yeah. Yeah. 665 00:48:36,190 --> 00:48:37,630 Survey how many of them come in? 666 00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:42,430 That's what we're going to come in. We wouldn't know unless we did a try. That's how we kind of 667 00:48:42,430 --> 00:48:47,210 got to the two to six is just by trial that I'm curious. Did you already do like 10 to two? 668 00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:53,910 on Sunday now. No. I just wonder how many people would come. I heard that people are busy 669 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:57,770 Sunday mornings and they won't come out and they do like family breakfast and family 670 00:48:57,770 --> 00:49:02,550 things so that's why we made it later as well. Well, maybe if we could do the article in the 671 00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:07,610 paper we could do a small survey. At the same time, if we can get the article, well, to just 672 00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:14,830 online. Just potentially to see how, you know, I have not a slightly, I'm not sure who's 673 00:49:14,830 --> 00:49:20,690 running them, but on Facebook, there'll be a question that pops up associated with something 674 00:49:20,690 --> 00:49:23,930 that the city's doing and it'll say like take the poll. I think it might be that, oh, 675 00:49:23,930 --> 00:49:28,370 have Allie News, right? Yeah, they did do it a few times. Yeah. I wonder if they would be willing 676 00:49:28,370 --> 00:49:33,630 to do that and ask, like, would 12 to two, would you be interested, or would you, do you like 677 00:49:33,630 --> 00:49:37,870 the hours two to six? What do you do when you come? Or are you a person left swimming? Are you 678 00:49:37,870 --> 00:49:41,870 interested in free swim and see who we're serving? They usually had two or three questions on 679 00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:45,290 I don't know, maybe something we can coordinate with them on. 680 00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:46,270 All right. 681 00:49:46,590 --> 00:49:46,770 Great. 682 00:49:46,810 --> 00:49:47,850 Any other questions on that? 683 00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:48,070 No. 684 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:48,570 Thank you. 685 00:49:48,910 --> 00:49:49,230 Okay. 686 00:49:50,850 --> 00:49:54,630 And we kind of covered the main ad hoc there. 687 00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:56,710 So I think unless you have anything else to add. 688 00:49:57,290 --> 00:49:57,490 Nope. 689 00:49:58,110 --> 00:49:59,070 That's it. 690 00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:59,970 But if you need any. 691 00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:29,980 Thank you. Thank you. And then under Commission Member Report, I just have one thing, I met with IT earlier today. And because I have an older phone and they had to really struggle to get it up and running. So right now, I can only check my email at my computer. I can't check it on a wireless device. But when the new iPhone 18s come out, I can come back and get one. So be prepared for it. 692 00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:39,360 If you send me an email, you probably should send me a text to say just until I get the phone because I won't be checking it 693 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,960 I'm not it's not gonna ping. I can't even check it on this phone 694 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,740 So know that and then I had IT research 695 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,480 Who had logged in and got their accounts gapped up and going and so 696 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,660 Commissioner Bailey has not and neither has Commissioner Munich 697 00:50:55,660 --> 00:51:24,500 So, I was wondering if you could mail these to their address for me, and then maybe just with like a cover letter that says this needs to be set up, and then just some background for everyone, James was sharing that it's to comply with some, I think it's really about transparency and it makes it really easier for them to do like the public records, but I think it was some case law to San Jose, but anyways, it's here, and then I think that would be helpful. 698 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:29,580 I'm guessing that's why they're not here tonight, but probably could up the communication. 699 00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:37,020 I know they want it to go through there, but in the interim, probably need to text and do a 700 00:51:37,020 --> 00:51:43,800 better job following up on not a group text, but just like an individual text to say, are you coming, 701 00:51:44,180 --> 00:51:49,340 maybe, I knew we had a quorum tonight, so I wasn't so worried about it, but okay, so that's the only update 702 00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:52,200 that I have coming directly, 703 00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:55,360 and then just, again, 704 00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:56,660 when you kind of already talked about it, 705 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,520 that was just to, I like the idea of having historic files 706 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,900 so when someone like that, you know, 707 00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,120 like our gentleman that was here tonight's new to the area, 708 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,160 if he goes back on our commission agenda, 709 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:11,760 and he looks at that thing, 710 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,800 he can click on the link and the staff reports 711 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,140 will just basically tell him what we're doing 712 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:18,640 and get away from kind of that verbal stuff. 713 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,780 So that's perfect. 714 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,120 That's really a lie. 715 00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:22,360 I have to report on. 716 00:52:23,860 --> 00:52:24,800 Okay, how about you guys? 717 00:52:27,260 --> 00:52:27,940 I'm good. 718 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,880 And thank you, Art, to our youth commissioner. 719 00:52:30,220 --> 00:52:30,500 I did. 720 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,160 I will share, it's not really my decision. 721 00:52:34,540 --> 00:52:36,420 I mean, I can, I guess I'd genize it, 722 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,300 but might just be a staff decision. 723 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960 I was talking about James about doing email 724 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,040 for our youth commissioner 725 00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:45,860 because we don't have any way of communicating with you. 726 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,900 So yeah, and that's what they don't want. 727 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,500 So maybe can you, so I mentioned it to him, 728 00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:55,660 and I know there's a cost involved, 729 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,120 but there is a less expensive one for, 730 00:52:58,220 --> 00:52:59,760 it's kind of restrictive. 731 00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:05,200 Oh, one other update, can you follow up with James? 732 00:53:05,340 --> 00:53:07,100 Because I said I would talk about it tonight 733 00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:10,040 to get just a youth commissioner email, 734 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,760 but something very exciting. 735 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,000 And I know we have to be somewhat careful 736 00:53:16,180 --> 00:53:19,000 with serial meetings and compliant with the Brown Act 737 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,980 But we will be able to log on through the computer 738 00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:27,220 to set like Agenda's, and it'll be a Google, 739 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,640 it's not really a Google doc. 740 00:53:28,660 --> 00:53:31,740 I think it's a Microsoft product, but it's like a live document. 741 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,640 So that we can edit it. 742 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,040 You, it'll access, I think you can set up new, 743 00:53:39,340 --> 00:53:42,600 like you could do one with Christie, Brenda, and Sage. 744 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:45,400 That could be like the playground ad hoc document type 745 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,080 of a thing, and then for the agenda, 746 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:52,200 it could be myself and Sage and you and others, you know, plenty of staff, just not more than two 747 00:53:52,200 --> 00:54:01,780 commissioners per document. But instead of having to do like a Word doc, PDF, then a bunch 748 00:54:01,780 --> 00:54:07,400 of group emails, we can just go to that cloud. I think is how I understand it. It's all new. 749 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,380 I have an actually logged in so I don't know how it works yet. But it did sound really user-friendly. 750 00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:16,460 Okay. It sounded easy. If you have a computer, you can't do it from your phone. But so I think 751 00:54:16,460 --> 00:54:24,180 that will be really helpful in getting our drafts set to because we'll be able to see, I mean 752 00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:29,140 like with the other Google Docs, you can see the changes or you can like see in real time 753 00:54:29,140 --> 00:54:34,460 what's changing, so I think that will be great, yeah, it's in real time, okay, you know, 754 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,960 there could be multiple people in there at the same time even, you know, sometimes it'll 755 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,240 lock it, you can't touch it, but you could all be in it, okay, great, do you guys use that 756 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:50,960 for staff. Yeah, for some other things we do. Okay, okay, great. Okay, any other, any other 757 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:57,280 comments for managers reports? I would like to say that there is an event that's going to 758 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,800 happen at the skate park this Saturday. 759 00:55:00,860 --> 00:55:08,880 Air pizza is going to be out there and a famous skateboarder. Do we know who will be out there? 760 00:55:09,580 --> 00:55:13,440 Yeah. Is it secret? Oh, hi. No, famous famous. 761 00:55:13,540 --> 00:55:17,460 No, we have a flyer out. His last name is Alva, ALVA. 762 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:26,060 So we've got that going on from 9 to 1. So we've had a lot of shares on our Facebook page. 763 00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:31,540 So hopefully we'll get some, is he performing or giving instructions or what is actually going to be his birthday? 764 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,500 So he's going to be out there celebrating his birthday, but he'll be out there to meet the public as well. 765 00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:37,300 Correct, I think. 766 00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:37,900 Oh, yeah. 767 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:38,500 So there's that. 768 00:55:40,820 --> 00:55:46,300 And then I did want to mention, I know that we were going to look over at one time the meeting 769 00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:54,840 days and just have like a list of them, maybe this will help the, it should actually go as a formal 770 00:55:56,140 --> 00:56:04,020 motion in January. Okay. Well, we should put it on the agenda for December to set the dates. 771 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:10,020 I mean, we know they're every Thursday, but there's usually agenda item that has all the 772 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:17,620 first Thursdays of every month listed, and then we adopt it by formal motion because that's what 773 00:56:18,380 --> 00:56:24,640 is my understanding, like with the brown act, that's our regular meeting schedule. So then if we 774 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:30,160 to cancel it and have a special meeting or cancel it and go to a different day because you 775 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:35,040 know something the buildings not available or something that's why it becomes a special meeting 776 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:42,600 because we set the regular calendar by formal motion. So if we we would put it on for December 777 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:48,840 would typically, although some years we didn't meet in December. Yeah. That's also why I'm asking. I just 778 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,920 on a plan ahead because I think we're not meeting in January where we are. 779 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,840 I feel like the date felt like there's a fell right close to near. 780 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480 There's something weird about our probably our traditional. 781 00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:06,080 So we can, it doesn't really matter when we should do it before January. 782 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,160 Maybe we should put that on the November agenda. 783 00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:17,280 So that we have plenty of time to get it accomplished because we know that what the dates are going to be. 784 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:28,280 I think sometimes historically, they had something on future media dates and it would put the dates of what they were on the agenda and then you could just query people. 785 00:57:30,110 --> 00:57:32,410 But we know it's going to be on the ongoing agenda item. 786 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:36,650 Yeah, it was just the, and then they would just remind you to say, Oh, okay. 787 00:57:36,650 --> 00:57:37,190 It was available. 788 00:57:37,330 --> 00:57:37,710 Yeah. 789 00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:40,730 If you see anybody have conflicts for the next few months. 790 00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:43,530 You're saying like have it as a standing on the agenda. 791 00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:50,990 You can get to put the dates in there and we know what day and week it is, but yeah, and then put the dates on there, we'll discuss it. 792 00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:53,870 And it's like a tickler, I think. I mean, there's, you know, we can do that. 793 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:56,370 Or we could call it next month's meeting. 794 00:57:58,210 --> 00:57:58,750 And, okay, sure. 795 00:57:58,750 --> 00:58:00,070 But you want to have a few listed. 796 00:58:00,470 --> 00:58:03,370 You could do like two at a time or three at a time. 797 00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:05,090 Because things change. 798 00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:10,590 I don't know, at this rate, we might just need to go mum and visit like this. 799 00:58:10,590 --> 00:58:17,850 I guess like summer's over for me and I'm just like well, maybe we can cover I can cover it under 800 00:58:18,590 --> 00:58:26,130 Like under just like commission reports. We could say has everybody check their availability for next month's meeting 801 00:58:26,810 --> 00:58:32,230 Just like a poll. Yeah, okay. Good idea. Yeah, it feels like a little days 802 00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:34,710 three lonely three 803 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:39,210 Okay, okay, and we have a city anything else Christie? 804 00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:40,970 No, that's okay. Thank you. 805 00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:54,130 Not right now, and when you have time, I'd love to hear about some of them. Like the breakdown of that and you know all the details and how it went. I think it went great, but just share with us. 806 00:58:55,770 --> 00:58:58,970 Kind of like the numbers or do you want me just to get it? 807 00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:05,650 Yeah, just you know, do you have them? Well, well, I don't have them all. I could gather you something because we did do the 808 00:59:06,810 --> 00:59:13,290 the field trips on Wednesdays, and then we had the water days on Friday, so we went to 809 00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:17,370 a lot of cool places on Wednesdays. You know if you have, I know you don't have time, but 810 00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:23,130 if you would, like a couple of pictures. Oh yeah. You do it would be fun to see with your numbers 811 00:59:23,130 --> 00:59:28,790 and just to share with everybody. Okay, and highlight, okay. If you do have access to Facebook or Instagram, 812 00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:33,790 we did post every week. She doesn't, can you believe I know that she does it? That's why I'm 813 00:59:33,790 --> 00:59:40,750 That's why I'm talking to everyone else over here with me. I know she's okay. So no, but we do 814 00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:48,510 Yeah, we do have a end of the week, you know, sort of like group updates. So I'll print them out for you 815 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,980 Okay. She has a lot of more free time. That's what I'm gathering. 816 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,840 I have an Instagram that I turn on and turn off occasionally. 817 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,760 Oh, I didn't know this. Okay. 818 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,780 We have a city council liaison here tonight. 819 01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:16,860 Do you have a report? 820 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,480 The same other than thank you guys. I appreciate all you do. 821 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,560 Christy, your time and everything. It's a pleasure to meet you as well. 822 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,920 Keep doing what you're doing. I was a little nervous when I got here in that, 823 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,500 are they going to have a meeting so I'm glad you guys pulled it off and I appreciate you so 824 01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:33,580 thanks for all you do. Thanks for coming. 825 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,140 Okay all right and so I have Christie just to recap 826 01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:47,240 I have for our next agenda just as a draft we'll have a playground update we'll get some clarification 827 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:55,010 from public works on day bangs and and kind of what you know catalog we can source from 828 01:00:56,810 --> 01:01:02,570 So we'll coordinate with the ad hoc and so that next month we'll have a more understanding 829 01:01:02,570 --> 01:01:09,050 of what we can source and then we'll get an update kind of just possibly something very brief 830 01:01:09,050 --> 01:01:12,470 on the shade at the solar shade at Libby. 831 01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:16,010 I think could we just put that under the energy support? 832 01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:16,930 Yeah. 833 01:01:17,650 --> 01:01:19,590 We could just list it under there and set that. 834 01:01:19,830 --> 01:01:19,850 Okay. 835 01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:25,850 I'd really like to know, can we have that for there's a couple of months? 836 01:01:27,130 --> 01:01:45,130 I'd like to kind of, well, I do like, it doesn't have to be, you know, super robust, but I think it would be helpful to have it as a discussion item just for the next couple of months only because we can make recommendations that way. 837 01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:59,150 And if something comes up where, you know, we have information that maybe 12 o'clock is better after daylight savings time and, you know, I just like to have that. 838 01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:01,510 I think people also when they look at the agenda. 839 01:02:01,690 --> 01:02:02,350 Yeah, they see it. 840 01:02:02,350 --> 01:02:04,290 Mostly look at the special items. 841 01:02:04,790 --> 01:02:09,810 Yeah, I think just, and it doesn't have to take a long time for us to talk about it. 842 01:02:09,810 --> 01:02:14,830 If the update is no update, we're not going to need to next month, that's fine too. 843 01:02:15,170 --> 01:02:19,230 But I would like to see the, I'd like to really hear more about the shade. 844 01:02:19,350 --> 01:02:25,590 I think going over the bleachers, that's a really great idea, because that gets really hot 845 01:02:25,590 --> 01:02:28,750 there, especially at the tournament, as long as I guess it doesn't interfere with play. 846 01:02:30,210 --> 01:02:34,570 And so definitely a playground, we've got the solar youth programming we are just 847 01:02:34,570 --> 01:02:48,210 about and then can we can we put the panacube ball for puttonk thank you I wrote it 848 01:02:48,210 --> 01:02:57,830 phonetically first on the agenda and then maybe in between we are you for 849 01:02:57,830 --> 01:03:01,950 earlier with Peter, because he didn't leave his phone number on here. 850 01:03:02,210 --> 01:03:03,270 I have a seat now. 851 01:03:03,830 --> 01:03:10,610 Okay, so maybe we can reach out and get he sounded really eager to do kind of a lot of the 852 01:03:10,610 --> 01:03:16,690 heavy lifting on doing the research and then we can talk about if that's something that the 853 01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:19,570 public and the commission can move forward. 854 01:03:20,350 --> 01:03:21,670 We have it on the agenda. 855 01:03:23,230 --> 01:03:24,130 Anything else? 856 01:03:25,530 --> 01:03:26,490 Yep, I think that's good. 857 01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:28,990 So I'm also going to leave the heat capture the capture the capture. 858 01:03:28,990 --> 01:03:31,630 And then the hydrogen items even won't be on next month. 859 01:03:31,850 --> 01:03:33,610 Be doing our calendar. Yes. Yes. 860 01:03:33,610 --> 01:03:35,570 I have that next month's meeting dates. 861 01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:38,370 We'll put that. I'll just put it like right here. 862 01:03:38,790 --> 01:03:41,290 Oh yeah. But even the larger calendar too. 863 01:03:42,590 --> 01:03:43,370 Oh. We can't do that. 864 01:03:43,690 --> 01:03:43,950 Yeah. Yeah. 865 01:03:43,950 --> 01:03:45,170 So that it's a tickler. 866 01:03:45,390 --> 01:03:46,510 She, I think, thank Chris. 867 01:03:46,570 --> 01:03:47,490 You ready for November. 868 01:03:49,550 --> 01:03:50,350 And then. 869 01:03:52,850 --> 01:03:56,470 Well, and since this, if this since the snack first going to open up on the 15th. 870 01:03:56,470 --> 01:04:07,690 We should leave. It's almost like a repeat of what we have to be honest because that'll be really great to see the numbers and stuff for the next meeting because we'll have a couple weeks of service 871 01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:08,870 Okay 872 01:04:11,170 --> 01:04:14,030 Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 873 01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:21,350 I'll adjourn the meeting. Thank you 874 01:04:22,490 --> 01:04:24,550 Yes, that's right. I'm adjourning the meeting 875 01:04:27,970 --> 01:04:28,450 705 876 01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:49,460 It wasn't anything, but I'm just like...