[0:10] >> Good morning. Welcome to
[0:11] the board of County
[0:12] Commissioners meeting this
[0:12] morning and we're going to
[0:17] started out for prayer.
[0:17] Reverend, the key would you be
[0:19] so good is to give us
[0:19] indication and commissioner
[0:20] good bed? Would you lead to
[0:25] some salute to the flag plays?
[0:27] Thank Bow your heads with me.
[0:30] Father GOD, I love you.
[0:31] >> And what a great and
[0:32] beautiful day you have given
[0:34] us today. And I thank you for
[0:35] for the opportunity to be
[0:36] here. Thank you for for the
[0:38] opportunity to live in this
[0:39] country in this state. And in
[0:42] this county lord and father, I
[0:43] just pray that you preside
[0:44] today that you would rule and
[0:47] reign in this place. Well,
[0:48] that there will be peace in
[0:49] this place and lord, that
[0:50] everything that is said and
[0:51] done Lord by this board by
[0:53] this commission, by this
[0:55] people would be honoring and
[0:57] you we trust you, father, we
[0:58] trust you. We thank you. Had a
[1:02] time. Your money, then we
[1:07] privilege Jesus. Amen.
[1:08] >> Apparently just over United
[1:14] States of America one nation
[1:15] under GOD, indivisible, with
[1:29] liberty and justice for all.
[1:30] >> Okay. MISS We do move along
[1:35] to employee. Recantation. Yes,
[1:36] sir. So if you with a system
[1:45] based course, this is
[1:47] >> great time. Whenever we get
[1:49] to recognize our staff. And I
[1:49] appreciate everyone being here
[1:52] to support our staff, too. So
[1:53] the first we're going to start
[1:56] off. Of course, what we do is
[1:56] in 5 year increments. So any
[1:57] employees that have at least 5
[2:01] years of service, we end going
[2:02] the 5 year increments. We're
[2:05] going to be recognizing today.
[2:06] So for fires, the service,
[2:07] Garrick Collier, if you will
[2:12] come forward, please. Not
[2:13] okay. So we'll move on to
[2:17] Miriam marry him. Turn off.
[2:21] All right, come on up. So
[2:22] Miriam is our administrative
[2:23] assistant in parks and
[2:25] recreation in 2018. She worked
[2:27] as a store manager at Family
[2:29] Dollar Pahokee. She is also a
[2:33] certified nursing assistant.
[2:34] Most importantly, she
[2:35] treasures her role as a loving
[2:37] mother and to her baby Girl.
[2:40] Genesis and a devoted flight.
[2:40] Her husband, Marion,
[2:53] congratulations. Thank you.
[2:54] Next for 5 years we have David
[3:03] Jay Cups. David is our project
[3:04] coordinator and cemetery in
[3:06] parks at it and the facility
[3:08] maintenance department. He's
[3:08] from Okeechobee and is a
[3:10] graduate of Okeechobee High
[3:11] school. He worked for 7 years
[3:15] at Walmart on a technician. He
[3:16] began his career with the
[3:18] county, has a building
[3:20] maintenance technician
[3:21] promoted to project
[3:22] coordinator for facilities,
[3:23] maintenance and is now the
[3:24] project Coordinator for
[3:25] Cemetery in Parks and is doing
[3:28] an excellent job. So he looks
[3:29] forward to serving Okeechobee
[3:30] community for many more years.
[3:45] Thank you. 20 years of
[3:46] service. So we have one
[3:49] employee, Francisco Rodrigues.
[3:53] Sprint says yes. Francisco,
[3:54] it's our road maintenance
[3:56] technician in the road and
[4:00] bridge deficient. He has been
[4:01] in Okeechobee resident for 38
[4:03] years before working for the
[4:05] county. He was an agricultural
[4:07] worker, harvesting tobacco in
[4:09] orange crops. He has been
[4:09] operating tractors for the
[4:11] last 20 years for the road and
[4:12] bridge department and holds a
[4:13] municipal safety services
[4:28] certificate.
[4:29] 25 years of
[4:31] service quarter of a century.
[4:34] We have our chief public
[4:35] safety director put fire Chief
[4:41] Earl Chief grew up in West
[4:42] Palm Beach, Florida, and
[4:43] locate and relocated to
[4:45] Okeechobee when he started the
[4:47] 8th grade, he began his career
[4:50] at the Citi Bike. A Chevy Fire
[4:50] Department is a firefighter
[4:51] emt before joining a good
[4:55] County Fire rescue over the
[4:55] years he has progressed from
[4:56] firefighter emt to public
[4:58] safety director fire chief
[5:01] positions in between chief
[5:02] holds a bachelor's degree in
[5:05] public safety administration
[5:07] and his executive fire officer
[5:09] certified by the National Fire
[5:12] Academy. Fun fact about chief
[5:14] is that he entered the drop
[5:14] program on JANUARY. I don't
[5:15] know that that's so much fun
[5:20] for us ever. But together on
[5:21] JANUARY first and is excited
[5:21] for the next chapter in his
[5:36] life.
[5:43] You know, you can have
[5:57] our commissioners.
[6:48] >> place to store company. Is
[6:50] always a great day. We can
[6:51] recognize employees because
[6:53] they do such a great job in
[6:54] and then co-workers are here
[6:55] to We appreciate that so much.
[6:58] >> So with the move on
[7:00] proclamations, missed it.
[7:02] >> Yes, sir. And the first
[7:04] proclamation is for National
[7:05] Library would weak, which is
[7:09] APRIL 6 through the 12th. And
[7:09] we have our library director
[7:12] here. It's good to see her.
[7:13] And that is crest to Keene.
[7:18] And she has her staff here. So
[7:19] whereas library spark
[7:22] creativity, fuel imagination,
[7:23] inspire, lifelong learning,
[7:24] offering a space for
[7:24] individual of all ages can
[7:28] explore new ideas and be drawn
[7:29] to the new possibilities and
[7:31] serve as vibrant community
[7:33] hub, connecting people with
[7:33] knowledge, technology and
[7:37] resources. Why fostering civic
[7:37] engagement, critical thinking
[7:41] and lifelong learning
[7:42] libraries provide free and
[7:44] equitable access to books,
[7:46] digital tools and innovative
[7:46] programming ensuring that all
[7:48] individuals regardless of
[7:49] background have the support
[7:51] they need to learn, connect
[7:54] and thrive. Libraries, partner
[7:55] with schools, businesses and
[7:56] organizations connecting the
[7:59] dots to maximize resources,
[8:00] increase efficiency and expand
[8:04] access to essential services,
[8:05] strengthening the entire
[8:07] community and empower job
[8:08] seekers. Entrepreneuers and
[8:09] life all learners by providing
[8:12] access to resources, training
[8:14] and opportunities that support
[8:16] career goes growth and
[8:18] economic success. Libraries,
[8:20] nurture young minds through
[8:22] story time steam programs and
[8:24] literacy initiatives fostering
[8:24] curiosity and a love of
[8:28] learning that last a lifetime
[8:29] and libraries protect the
[8:31] right to re think and explore
[8:34] without censorship standing as
[8:35] companions of intellectual
[8:37] champions. Excuse me of
[8:38] intellectual freedom and free
[8:42] expression. Whereas dedicated
[8:44] librarians and library workers
[8:45] provide welcoming spaces that
[8:46] inspire discovery
[8:48] collaboration and creativity
[8:50] for all and libraries.
[8:52] Librarians and library workers
[8:53] across the country are joining
[8:55] together to celebrate National
[8:56] Library Week and are the thing
[8:59] drone to the library now,
[9:00] therefore, be it proclaimed by
[9:01] Shelby County Board of County
[9:02] commissioners that they here
[9:03] by recognize and celebrate
[9:06] National Library week and
[9:07] encourage all residents to
[9:08] visit their library, explore
[9:09] its resources and celebrate
[9:11] all the ways that the library
[9:12] draws us together as a
[9:15] community.
[9:15] >> Can I get a motion to
[9:16] accept the proclamation is
[9:20] present. So Jen have a motion
[9:21] commissioner summer second
[9:23] back. Commissioner Carlo all
[9:25] in favor say Aye. Aye. All
[9:26] opposed nay motion carries
[9:27] unanimously. Okay.
[9:35] Commissioner, good bread.
[9:41] Microphone of the.
[9:41] >> Trying to use more rodeo
[9:49] announcer voice. I've been on
[9:49] the part library board for 9
[9:51] years with question to you,
[9:53] sir. She's always first won
[9:54] their last win, believe she's
[9:56] always at the library doing
[9:58] our She definitely deserves or
[9:59] the library does, but she
[9:59] deserves to be the recipient
[10:05] of its.
[10:06] >> And I just wanted to say
[10:09] thank This is for our staff.
[10:11] Our volunteers, our friends of
[10:13] the library board and our
[10:15] commissioners because the
[10:16] library is the one place that
[10:20] you can still go to for free.
[10:22] And you can do yoga in the
[10:22] library. You can do your taxes
[10:24] in the library. We have air
[10:27] conditioning in Wi-Fi that
[10:28] works. There's so many things
[10:30] you can do in the library and
[10:30] it is all because of the
[10:33] support of the community, the
[10:34] support of our commissioners
[10:36] that has been unwavering and
[10:37] the support of our staff and
[10:52] volunteers. So thank you.
[11:06] >> MR. This next think we have
[11:08] to recipients be issue.
[11:11] >> We have Toby can noodle.
[11:18] And a man to right now. Sorry.
[11:20] And this proclamation for
[11:21] national Chai child Abuse
[11:22] Prevention Month, which is
[11:25] APRIL 2025. Going to come
[11:25] where you want to come on up
[11:29] there. Yeah. Whereas strong
[11:30] families Cray, strong
[11:31] communities and strong
[11:35] futures. Children are our most
[11:37] valuable resource and will
[11:38] shape the future of Okeechobee
[11:38] County success, prosperity and
[11:40] quality of life. And the
[11:43] federal fiscal year 2024
[11:47] showed 3.1 million reports to
[11:47] child Protective Services
[11:50] providing child abuse ended.
[11:51] Neglect is a serious problem
[11:54] affecting every segment of our
[11:55] community and finding
[11:56] solutions requires input and
[12:00] action from everyone child
[12:02] abuse can have long-term
[12:03] psychological, emotional and
[12:03] physical effects that have
[12:06] lasting consequences. Ends
[12:09] consequences for victims abuse
[12:12] and helping people succeed and
[12:12] hide. This gets children
[12:13] center have been providing
[12:15] services to the community for
[12:16] decades through their
[12:17] diversified, effective
[12:18] program, services and
[12:20] initiatives. Hundreds of the
[12:22] most phoner go local children,
[12:23] families and adults have been
[12:25] able to transform their lives
[12:26] through education, counseling,
[12:29] training and employment and
[12:29] effective child abuse
[12:33] prevention activities. 6 e
[12:33] because of the partnerships
[12:36] created between child welfare
[12:38] professionals, education,
[12:40] health community and
[12:41] faith-based organizations,
[12:42] businesses, law enforcement
[12:44] agencies and families. And
[12:45] whereas communities must make
[12:47] every effort to promote
[12:48] programs and activities that
[12:49] create strong and thriving
[12:51] children and families in order
[12:53] to promote the social and
[12:53] emotional well-being of
[12:54] children and families in a
[12:57] safe, stable and nurturing
[12:58] environment. This prevention
[13:00] remains the best defense for
[13:02] our children and families now,
[13:03] therefore, be it proclaimed by
[13:05] Okeechobee County Board of
[13:06] County commissioners that they
[13:06] hereby designate the month of
[13:09] APRIL 2025. As Child Abuse
[13:09] Prevention Month and Cherokee
[13:13] County. Going to get a motion
[13:14] to accept the proclamation to
[13:18] move it. So Motion by
[13:18] Commissioner Good bridge
[13:19] second by Commissioner Burrows
[13:21] all in favor say Aye.
[13:23] >> All opposed. Say nay.
[13:27] Motion carries unanimously.
[13:27] Commissioner Karla.
[13:28] >> So we have to proclamations
[13:33] today. We have 1, 4, Toby be
[13:34] that's going represent helping
[13:38] people succeed. And one for
[13:42] Amanda Riedel. Biscuits center
[13:43] and I I wrote this down a
[13:46] little while ago. The this
[13:50] child Abuse Prevention month.
[13:52] The hype. This cause houses
[13:57] celebrating there 40th year
[13:58] 1985. They started. There are
[14:03] 501, c. They are provided
[14:03] 450,000 safe Night for
[14:06] Children and teens. That's
[14:07] pretty amazing. We want to
[14:08] thank you for all you guys.
[14:10] What you do. And for our
[14:11] community. Thank you very
[14:25] much.
[14:38] >> We're going move on to
[14:38] public comment and for us to
[14:42] have rigged the Mitten. MISTER
[14:57] B.
[15:12] Good morning morning.
[15:12] >> And I could stand here all
[15:17] day. And say how disappointed
[15:19] I am. And the sheriff's
[15:23] department. But that only have
[15:27] 3 minutes. There is an
[15:30] innocent woman stand all. Jury
[15:35] trial. That took up for
[15:37] herself is to use it
[15:41] >> MISTER B. Have to stuff.
[15:43] Can only talk about something.
[15:44] It comes before us. If you
[15:45] have a complaint with that,
[15:46] you might want to get to the
[15:48] governor's office. Okay.
[15:52] >> Okay. I can do that.
[15:57] >> I was pulled over about. Or
[16:01] 5 years ago.
[16:03] >> By the sheriff's Department
[16:04] Mishra be again, we have no
[16:05] jurisdiction over that. Please
[16:06] keep it a step that we have
[16:09] jurisdiction over. Okay. What
[16:10] do you have jurisdiction of
[16:11] the roads, the bridges, the
[16:15] library, the playgrounds.
[16:16] Senior services saying or
[16:18] services that type of things
[16:19] we do it they If you have such
[16:20] a situation and would love to
[16:24] hear from you.
[16:27] >> The roads is Tara, thank
[16:28] you. I just hit a pothole and
[16:33] it cost me $400. Okay. Okay. I
[16:34] guess I have nothing else to
[16:40] save him. Thank you. They
[16:50] wrote. In very roads.
[16:51] >> I guess this would be a
[16:55] senior same senior issue. No
[17:00] stay even. Put a hit out on
[17:03] me. The contract on my life,
[17:04] MR. Rhodes, we have no news or
[17:05] hastily. You not that. You
[17:05] know, you have a budget that
[17:08] runs the show.
[17:09] >> Played have utilized have
[17:12] jurisdiction over everything.
[17:15] Is your second represent time
[17:16] yet tell you right now they
[17:17] have been really have a hit on
[17:19] me. I want something done to
[17:20] call the Department of Justice
[17:22] Civil Rights Division cut
[17:37] right place at the
[18:05] Second
[18:18] time. Take him out to.
[19:05] Give them just a minute to
[19:05] regroup and get law
[19:20] enforcement back inside.
[20:04] We'll
[20:07] move on. Somebody by the name
[20:28] hit be. Ok, Mike Taylor. Want
[20:31] to take my hat off and
[20:32] >> I'm only going to talk
[20:33] about things that have
[20:33] happened in this council
[20:37] chambers. So I'm guessing that
[20:38] is under the purview of the
[20:42] council. Just want to make
[20:43] sure I don't get kicked out
[20:46] for something I didn't do. But
[20:47] anyway, I'm honest. I wrote
[20:52] something. In a minute. I'm
[20:57] doing this nicest way. I can.
[20:59] Little commissioners don't say
[21:01] a word. I might say something
[21:04] that you already heard and
[21:07] it's something I say might
[21:08] make you I brought a little
[21:10] being e.
[21:13] >> Here's your being keys. To
[21:16] make you glad. All even right
[21:17] here. If you want to come get
[21:22] them. What I'm noticing here
[21:27] is that. Free speech. Like
[21:29] literally free speech is. Is
[21:34] something that. People can't.
[21:38] Grass. You know, for 3
[21:42] minutes. Just let us speak.
[21:43] You know, this woman back here
[21:43] wanted to speak about
[21:44] something that she's been
[21:47] going through. And you shut
[21:50] her down. Completely shut her
[21:57] down. I'm trying to be really
[21:57] nice and I'm not seeing
[22:01] anything.
[22:02] >> Nor you remember the other
[22:10] times that I've come here. I
[22:11] am truly.
[22:12] >> I just I think this is the
[22:14] most disgusting thing that
[22:16] ever seen. And for whatever
[22:17] attorney.
[22:19] >> Whether or not on the list
[22:19] anymore, if that's not
[22:21] something we have control of
[22:22] the U.S. You do have this
[22:23] second warning. I gave you one
[22:27] the bat. You go through. I do
[22:28] you can leave or what have you
[22:33] taken out? Except to you.
[22:35] Cohen versus Jolla allows me
[22:36] say came out scout a boater
[22:37] place. Taliban tone versus
[22:39] California allows me to say
[22:40] this doesn't like a phone
[22:44] place. Take him out. Take him
[22:47] out of the building place for
[22:53] the to a lot.
[23:09] >> Okay. We have Scott Morrow.
[23:09] >> That's look at and that
[23:13] wasn't on purpose. I'm trying
[23:15] do. But before I get that, I
[23:15] want to thank the community to
[23:19] come out. Coming up, support
[23:20] Those that served in this
[23:22] community. Appreciate I'm so
[23:25] emotional right now. It's like
[23:32] I just see my My grandfather.
[23:32] >> try to address their
[23:37] grievances with came out. Just
[23:40] want hurt to noticed. Hurt. I
[23:46] don't care if this
[23:50] >> all oath.
[23:51] >> The person a person best
[23:53] possible.
[23:54] >> For coming to this county
[24:00] Okeechobee. And feeding. Just
[24:01] to be laced with the Eagles
[24:03] should be addressed. It.
[24:06] Because inflated isn't Of drew
[24:10] him out. Also better yet.
[24:12] Thanks. Drama. Read that.
[24:15] >> For teaching me how to
[24:30] helps the aspirants. The best
[24:33] >> Would escort him out of the
[24:37] building? Plays disrupt play
[24:37] space. Take him out. I don't
[24:38] that in our and make me
[24:42] believe that. Please take him
[24:44] out.
[25:04] Anyone else for public
[25:16] comment.
[25:18] >> I you just don't get it
[25:20] rather I mean, I've told you
[25:21] you're the worst tyrant. Every
[25:24] time this has nothing to come.
[25:25] You're out of order talk about
[25:27] something we don't do. Arkush.
[25:28] One of the 2 were talking
[25:30] about this chamber and your
[25:32] attitude and the way you treat
[25:34] the public is what I want talk
[25:34] about. This is on home.
[25:42] Please. You're through. You
[25:47] later. Later.
[25:54] >> yourself day.
[25:58] >> Inman else. Public comment.
[25:59] A full clothes that I didn't.
[26:05] I don't want to.
[26:05] >> MISTER CHAIRMAN, my name
[26:08] Sean Barie. This is a public
[26:13] meeting. Ok? I'm trying to go
[26:14] through this right here
[26:14] without breaking your rows and
[26:15] rows of the courtroom. I want
[26:19] the descent. But I want you to
[26:20] tell me what I can and can't
[26:26] say MR. CHAIRMAN. Go through
[26:27] this a limited time here and
[26:29] see if that if come across
[26:30] something I'm not allowed to
[26:31] say in this public meeting
[26:34] dissent and you can just tell
[26:36] okay, because I like to set
[26:37] the way have constitution
[26:39] about it. I'm here lawfully.
[26:43] MR. CHAIRMAN. I'm exercising
[26:47] my rights under the first 14th
[26:50] amendments as well as article
[26:50] one Section 4, 9, 24 the
[26:54] Florida Constitution. Could
[26:58] going okay. Okay. Any attempt
[27:01] to remove me for the content
[27:05] of my speech is
[27:06] unconstitutional. Retaliatory
[27:07] and we'll be conduct dominated
[27:08] as you're not going to tell us
[27:10] what we can and can't do.
[27:11] >> I'm putting on notice. If
[27:12] you want to talk about
[27:14] something, we have
[27:15] jurisdiction over your well,
[27:15] certainly have your I'm doing
[27:16] things that the microphone,
[27:20] please. Your second time.
[27:21] You're at a border state. You
[27:27] thank out, please. Has very
[27:34] nice of you. Anyone else for
[27:41] public comment. When Michael
[27:44] Foale? It would pull the
[27:45] microphone down. We can
[27:47] replace. Thank you, Bernie.
[27:48] >> I just want to come and
[27:52] speak. About Douglas Park
[27:55] about could absolutely I would
[27:57] like to say that. Is it a
[28:00] MISS? Okay. We need to clean
[28:05] up on the roads. People
[28:06] couldn't trees and put in a
[28:07] better role Casey when you're
[28:07] coming down the road. It's a
[28:13] mess. I want also address.
[28:18] Drugs. That 3 months ago from
[28:21] drugs. You all know what? Over
[28:25] in the quarters. I think it
[28:26] stand for something to be
[28:30] done. And just acts in for
[28:33] some help. Just a good grade
[28:38] is out at a commission right?
[28:40] >> Yes, yes, yes, ma'am. No
[28:41] But yesterday we were all.
[28:42] Yes, we're all listening.
[28:44] Yeah, but I would like talk
[28:47] with you some time and shirt.
[28:47] >> Taking over some things
[28:50] that's going on. We really
[28:52] need to a bad about that. And
[28:53] if you have to ship things
[28:56] down. To get clean up, you
[28:58] just have to to death. I will
[29:02] talk with you. You know me. I
[29:06] know MISTER Delhaize I live
[29:06] with ms Ley on the hope for
[29:10] years. And it's a thing to see
[29:15] all of But all on this great.
[29:15] We're losing a whole
[29:18] generation of young people. De
[29:20] sacs. That to help me, we have
[29:24] a community made up committee.
[29:24] We're trying to do things to
[29:27] help the young people. You
[29:28] know what like doing the
[29:31] things trying to help them.
[29:32] This going off to college.
[29:33] We're trying to give them some
[29:33] money to leave with it. We're
[29:37] trying to get light. At
[29:38] Friday's this stuff. So they
[29:39] would have said when they go
[29:39] off to college. So everybody
[29:42] in the court isn't that I
[29:45] would like to see a cleanup.
[29:46] His house is that got don't
[29:49] ever will. It's not. I can
[29:51] explain it all. But I would
[29:55] like to. Todd Whitman County
[29:57] commissions. About cleaning it
[30:00] up. Thank
[30:01] >> Thank you for so much for
[30:03] coming in being so civil about
[30:04] your complaint says the cut.
[30:05] That's the kind of things that
[30:07] we take. It takes seriously
[30:09] and we will work it. And and
[30:11] the clerk would be more than
[30:12] happy to give you MR.
[30:13] Goodman's number in and the
[30:14] rest of us. You commissioners
[30:14] also so that thank you so
[30:16] much. Any further public
[30:21] comment. Motion to close
[30:24] public comment. Motion by
[30:25] Commissioner Burrows second by
[30:26] commissioner, good bread all
[30:26] in favor say Aye. Aye. All
[30:27] opposed. Nay motion carries
[30:31] unanimously. Again. I want to
[30:33] apologize to the people that
[30:34] we have less people coming
[30:35] into our community and using
[30:36] this kind of language. It is
[30:39] is one of the people that was
[30:45] he a few minutes ago in very
[30:46] did a good of recognizing what
[30:51] tribe they come from. So they
[30:53] don't have any respect for any
[30:54] any of our female out. Isn't
[30:56] apologize to you. So it time
[30:58] we will move on. You might
[31:02] want to wait. Wait just a few
[31:03] minutes before you exit your
[31:04] way. Welcome to do so. But you
[31:05] might want to wait to make
[31:07] sure that everything's cleared
[31:08] out there. They have a
[31:08] reputation, out on the
[31:12] sidewalk and carrying on air
[31:12] and I'd hate for anybody to
[31:19] get cold up in that. Okay.
[31:19] MISS Them. We don't go ahead
[31:21] with the consent agenda.
[31:22] >> Yes, sir. And I have no
[31:23] revisions to the agenda as
[31:26] well.
[31:33] >> Motion to accept agenda. We
[31:35] have motion by commissioner
[31:36] second that commissioners
[31:37] Sumner to accept consent of
[31:39] judge ended with no changes
[31:40] favor, say Aye. Aye. All
[31:43] opposed. Nay motion carries
[31:43] unanimously. Okay. Misstep.
[31:44] Thank you for Guidance on the
[31:48] consent agenda for.
[31:50] >> Item 5, 1, is the minutes
[31:51] from our MARCH 20th regular
[31:55] board meeting. Item b is
[31:58] warrants in the amount of
[31:59] 1 million, 412,350 dollars and
[32:03] $0.83. Item c free. No one of
[32:05] 5 for the independent
[32:06] contractor agreement with
[32:07] advanced data Processing
[32:08] incorporated for ambulance
[32:15] billing. Item d is emergency
[32:16] home assistance program.
[32:19] Standard Agreement to with the
[32:21] area aging area Agency on
[32:25] Aging in the Mount. A $35,696,
[32:26] which is an increase of
[32:33] $10,000 from budget. At 25,696
[32:34] for the contract term a JULY
[32:36] first 2024 through JUNE, 30th
[32:40] 2025. And to adopt Resolution
[32:41] resolution. 25 dash 14
[32:42] amending the fiscal year. 25
[32:45] budget and approved budget
[32:46] amendment. 25 19 in the amount
[32:51] of $10,000. Item e is the
[32:52] First Amendment and our local
[32:54] agreement between the medical
[32:55] examiner of the 19 circuit
[32:57] court for the design
[32:58] permitting and construction
[33:00] phase of a new medical
[33:02] examiner facility to be
[33:03] located on the campus of
[33:04] Indian River State College in
[33:07] Fort Pierce. And we with that
[33:08] wind. Of course, we're one of
[33:11] 4 counties that support the
[33:16] medical examiner's office.
[33:18] Item f request for lane
[33:19] reduction and release a plane
[33:23] for Sarah from $22,725 to
[33:27] $3,665. And $0.87 provided.
[33:28] The amount is paid by 05:00pm
[33:31] on Monday. MAY 12th or will
[33:33] will revert back to the
[33:35] original amount item chief
[33:36] request for Lane reduction
[33:38] release of Lien Excel home
[33:44] Festers l l c. That is
[33:48] reduction from 35,000 to
[33:50] $3,731.54. Per again provided
[33:52] that the amount is paid by
[33:52] 05:00pm Monday. MAY 12th are
[33:53] referred us back to the
[33:56] original amount. Item h
[33:57] request for to schedule a
[33:59] public hearing for that option
[34:00] of an ordinance authorizing
[34:03] trespass from county
[34:04] facilities and authorizing
[34:07] that hearing on APRIL 24th
[34:16] 2025 for the adoption or at
[34:16] least consideration of the
[34:17] ordinance. For authorizing
[34:17] trespass from county
[34:17] facilities. And we have
[34:21] another. Scheduling item. I
[34:22] scheduling of a public hearing
[34:24] on 4/24/2025. For the
[34:27] amendment of Okeechobee County
[34:29] Code of Ordinances. Part one
[34:30] chapter 2 article one division
[34:31] to rules of decorum and
[34:33] civility. And that's the
[34:33] agenda. The consent agenda
[34:36] item, sir. Any commissioners
[34:37] have any question about
[34:39] Nicksin agenda.
[34:40] >> Motion to accept consent
[34:42] agenda as presented second, we
[34:46] have a motion by commissioner.
[34:47] Barros seconded by
[34:48] Commissioner Good Bread
[34:50] commissioner to Carlo. You
[34:51] probably want stay on this 1,
[34:52] 9, year for the record he will
[34:53] make standing and you can do
[34:54] the paperwork if you would,
[34:57] please. All in favor say Aye.
[34:59] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion
[35:00] carries unanimously with
[35:03] commissioner the caller
[35:04] standing.
[35:05] >> And searches for
[35:07] clarification. I believe he's
[35:13] just up staying on item. Phi
[35:23] Xi. See a week it's 5 f o k.
[35:24] Should we pull that one out
[35:28] and vote on a separate?
[35:28] >> Yes, that would would be
[35:33] the recommended dose action.
[35:33] So
[35:36] >> the amendment on the motion
[35:37] would be 4 to approve consent
[35:43] agenda items. Except for f.
[35:43] And will move Affleck. We've
[35:45] already we've already.
[35:47] >> We have voted to We didn't
[35:50] vote at if we get and we did,
[35:51] ok, we've got to go back and
[35:53] retract the motion and you've
[35:54] got to go back somebody on the
[35:55] prevailing side. But you make
[35:57] a motion to.
[35:58] >> Make the motion retract
[36:01] original motion. Second. We
[36:03] have a motion and second.
[36:08] Oliver say Aye, ok, let's
[36:08] start from scratch. Yes to the
[36:09] which identity gender with the
[36:14] exception of which item f
[36:15] believe, that correct? Mostly
[36:20] what it is. Yes, there we Yes,
[36:23] that's right. Motion to accept
[36:23] the consent agenda with the
[36:25] exception of item sect.
[36:27] >> We motion by Commissioner
[36:29] pro second by Commissioner.
[36:30] Good bread. In favor say Aye.
[36:32] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion
[36:33] carries unanimously.
[36:34] >> Okay. Let's do one with
[36:38] Item f with commissioner the
[36:39] caller standing place. If if I
[36:41] MAY, if you could just tell if
[36:41] you could just a clear
[36:44] conflict. Commissioner Karla.
[36:45] My daughter, very good. Thank
[36:49] you. Okay. Motion to approve
[36:55] for the consent agenda We have
[36:56] a motion by Commissioner
[36:58] Burrows second by Commissioner
[36:59] Sumner with in this one,
[37:00] commissioner color would be
[37:02] abstaining on all in favor,
[37:03] say aye. Aye nay motion
[37:04] carries unanimously with
[37:06] stanchion said, ok? Reverend
[37:11] Hannah. It's so nice to see if
[37:16] in the face.
[37:16] >> I'm here to request that we
[37:18] be able to hold a national day
[37:19] of prayer on the first
[37:21] Thursday in MAY, as is our
[37:22] tradition and on the
[37:25] courthouse lawn. I think that
[37:27] is before you.
[37:34] >> I think we need it. What's
[37:35] the pleasure of the board? A
[37:36] move But we do this every year
[37:37] is a great event that show
[37:40] proud to be part of it. So we
[37:41] have a motion by Commissioner
[37:42] good bread. Second by
[37:43] Commissioner Burrows all in
[37:44] favor say Aye. Aye. All
[37:45] opposed. Nay motion carries
[37:47] unanimously. Thank you. Thank
[37:48] you. Appreciate what you do
[37:50] for us. Can we take a short
[37:53] break in this? Make sure that.
[37:54] Get everybody to their
[37:59] >> He joined the group. Okay.
[37:59] We'll call the meeting back.
[38:03] Daughter. Okay. We're going to
[38:07] do discussion about the
[38:08] authorizing trespassed from
[38:09] county facilities in this
[38:10] attorney ago. You're going to
[38:11] take this one. Thank you so
[38:15] much. MISTER Chair.
[38:18] >> This with respect to our
[38:19] discussion for the last over
[38:22] the last 2 meetings about the
[38:26] trust pass ordinance. So
[38:27] basically what provided here
[38:30] is a memorandum just
[38:31] discussing the remedies
[38:32] available the options
[38:36] available to the county. So in
[38:37] general trespass warnings are
[38:38] lawful. They're allowed under
[38:39] state law to protect and
[38:40] respond to a threat public
[38:42] safety and protect the public
[38:45] welfare. However, when we
[38:47] issue a trespass warning for a
[38:47] public facility, we do have to
[38:48] have safeguards in place to
[38:49] ensure their due process
[38:51] rights afforded by the
[38:57] Constitution. So we we have
[38:57] some ordinances in place. We
[38:59] have a public camping
[38:59] ordinance. We have the parks
[39:01] and recreation ordinance for
[39:04] their facilities. But
[39:04] effectively the goal is to
[39:06] create this ordinance for all
[39:10] public facilities. And the key
[39:14] is to ensure that there's an
[39:16] appeal process. So if someone
[39:17] is trespassed that they have
[39:21] the opportunity to appeal. And
[39:24] so in keeping with that, we've
[39:28] provided the Palm Coast City
[39:29] code which is strong ordinance
[39:32] that has not been challenge.
[39:34] And so it's our provision.
[39:35] It's our recommendation that
[39:37] we adopt a similar ordinance.
[39:39] But certainly we want have
[39:40] discussion last meeting
[39:40] year-old directed that we
[39:43] would have it for up to 2
[39:43] years, which is in alignment
[39:45] with their ordinance. I have a
[39:48] question for you that can we
[39:48] make an open-ended know
[39:51] sunset.
[39:52] >> I think that they should
[39:53] have to come back in and pier
[39:58] and ask for forgiveness. And
[40:00] never do this kind of thinking
[40:01] because if you don't just
[40:01] sooner said with a dig on his
[40:02] computer going, come right
[40:03] back. So is it legal to have
[40:08] one? But no sunset.
[40:08] >> We
[40:09] >> would have to provide an
[40:11] additional process for.
[40:13] >> a petition to remove.
[40:19] >> The trespass warning.
[40:19] Reason why we provide that
[40:24] sunset is. Number one. The
[40:27] protection of due process. And
[40:32] so that we're not
[40:33] overburdening staffed by
[40:33] creating these dual process is
[40:37] number one for the required
[40:41] process appeal. Which we do
[40:46] have to require under the in
[40:47] order to protect the due
[40:49] process rights. And by
[40:53] providing the sunset. Gives us
[40:57] a nice clean automatic and as
[40:57] opposed to creating an
[41:00] additional process where? MAY
[41:04] have a person come back every
[41:05] 30 days for 2 years. So how
[41:10] long can we make it lately? So
[41:13] what we found in a survey
[41:15] generally is that the 2 years
[41:19] seems to be a good cap. As far
[41:20] as the trespass from public
[41:24] facilities you know, the
[41:26] there, some jurisdictions that
[41:27] go longer. There are some that
[41:31] go shorter. Only there is no
[41:34] bright line. I think that 2
[41:38] years is the is in line with
[41:39] what we see other
[41:40] jurisdictions doing that. Some
[41:45] go longer. I. In a survey we
[41:46] found Wonder Section that was
[41:51] up to 5 years. I. You I'm not
[41:54] sure that that is. A best
[41:55] practice considering that most
[42:00] are at too. But, you know,
[42:01] again, it's up to the
[42:03] direction of the board.
[42:03] Commissioner.
[42:07] >> I think from taking a look
[42:08] at the city of Palm Coast
[42:10] trespass. I think 2 things are
[42:10] made. Untreated, interesting
[42:12] comment was number one, it
[42:16] hasn't been challenged. It is
[42:18] pre detailed relative to even
[42:22] the process for go back go
[42:22] into court and for the
[42:24] appellate court. Take a look
[42:28] at. So I think you and I was
[42:29] there with with the CHAIRMAN's
[42:29] coming from on this because,
[42:30] you know, personally, I'm the
[42:32] one it talked about getting
[42:34] this done because I'm tired of
[42:37] listening to this. This in our
[42:38] courtroom or in commission
[42:40] chambers. So I 2 years is a
[42:44] good, good model for one
[42:45] reason because I don't want
[42:47] him to be able to challenge
[42:48] the process if this hasn't
[42:52] been challenged as of this
[42:53] date, then list due process in
[42:55] accordance with what Palm
[42:55] Coast done. And I believe
[42:58] that. Puts us in a safe zone.
[43:01] And MISTER Chair. On that same
[43:06] note. If the 2 years runs out
[43:08] and they were to pull the same
[43:08] person, pulled the same thing
[43:09] in, you can simply for an
[43:12] additional 2 years. Correct?
[43:12] >> Yes, that's correct. So
[43:16] that answers at This McKee did
[43:17] one time one time. And that's
[43:19] 2 years. I stand on my hands.
[43:25] One time. Every 2 years. It's
[43:26] base in CHAIRMAN Is that he he
[43:27] can come in here shoot a bird
[43:28] you one time. And then we have
[43:36] another 2 years. You think
[43:37] they would do I don't know.
[43:39] I'm just being I'm being
[43:40] facetious, but the time. But
[43:43] really me but to his point,
[43:44] okay, that's exactly what
[43:45] would happen. So he went on
[43:48] make he or she would
[43:49] automatically good. Another 2
[43:50] years but settled for 3. If
[43:53] you could get that. We've got
[43:54] all this PRESIDENT That
[43:57] doesn't get messed with. So if
[43:58] it ain't broke, don't Nord
[44:02] Norge as 5. Well, but not best
[44:04] practices. Will Smith differs
[44:05] is what I'm recommending. So
[44:06] why not go with 3 of 5?
[44:07] Doesn't get challenged.
[44:08] >> You should be good. This
[44:13] re. We can. If that's the will
[44:17] of the board, you're going to
[44:18] get 4 and you're just gonna
[44:20] have to take a bird. You're
[44:22] going to get 4.
[44:28] >> And then 6 and question
[44:29] >> that's just put us off any
[44:30] longer. We have to change
[44:34] anything now.
[44:36] >> No, I mean, this would not
[44:37] be change. This would be a
[44:38] change in the way that I've
[44:39] drafted the ordinance, but not
[44:43] in a way that the ordinance
[44:44] title has been drafted. So i
[44:45] mean, that would be something
[44:50] that we could. Address between
[44:50] now and that the date of the
[44:57] hearing. I thank you.
[44:59] >> Is the will of the board to
[45:04] keep it to or to admit it.
[45:05] Appreciate because you're the
[45:06] one taken most of this. And
[45:09] we've set up here and
[45:09] >> rest of us just sitting
[45:10] watching are the ones taken.
[45:12] So I appreciate we want to
[45:14] come from, but I think good
[45:14] you. We if we go on here,
[45:16] that's going to be hasn't
[45:19] challenge. Let's go with that.
[45:21] And and I was being facetious.
[45:22] But you'd be taking over. But
[45:24] the fact remains that become a
[45:25] one time and say something
[45:26] negative in its would just
[45:28] implement it again. We're done
[45:30] with it. So you get an
[45:31] automatic for years. You just
[45:34] have to take a little. Little
[45:39] bump. Okay. Okay. Make the
[45:40] motion to move forward. She
[45:42] didn't I'm sorry. Are you just
[45:46] got started? Okay. I'm sure up
[45:48] no. It's no, no. You can make
[45:49] the motion. We understand the
[45:50] directions. So what we're
[45:51] going to bring this back to
[45:52] the next meeting.
[45:53] >> But we just wanted to make
[45:54] sure that you all were okay
[45:55] with model because this is
[45:59] what will be following. You
[46:01] got any about the appeal and I
[46:01] were better. Are you
[46:02] comfortable with it? You know,
[46:04] this is a
[46:05] >> when you work to for
[46:05] somebody has your company a
[46:11] comfortable all of this?
[46:13] >> Are you all right? We are.
[46:14] We cross this appeal process
[46:17] is very clean. I mean, part of
[46:19] the reason I think this is a
[46:20] good ordinance is it is very
[46:20] clear. You know, it says it
[46:22] has to be filed in writing
[46:25] within 10 days. And then, you
[46:26] know, if it does, it's going
[46:27] to be the special magistrate
[46:29] show. It gives the special
[46:30] magistrate also guidance as
[46:32] well that this will be by him.
[46:34] So I think it I think
[46:36] appellate process is very good
[46:36] in this ordinance depart. I
[46:37] don't like about the payment
[46:38] process is if they don't show
[46:39] up, you still have to go
[46:42] through all the motions. So if
[46:44] you don't show up for small
[46:46] claims court judge rules in my
[46:47] favor. So why would you go
[46:47] through all this process if
[46:55] they don't show up? They did
[46:57] written down down ways that
[46:58] were never 12 where it is down
[47:01] about have how iffy on appeal.
[47:02] >> If they don't show up, the
[47:02] county still has to go through
[47:04] and present your case, right?
[47:08] So if if they fail to attend
[47:09] the magistrate reviews, the
[47:10] evidence presented and
[47:10] determines if it was properly
[47:11] issued or not.
[47:15] >> So if they can't come the
[47:16] special magistrate still has
[47:17] the evidence, which is the
[47:18] video of the meeting right?
[47:20] Even if they don't come to
[47:23] speak why? Why do we get to If
[47:27] you don't show up in court,
[47:28] the judge does. It doesn't
[47:29] make them present the case.
[47:30] Said nobody's hear you. You
[47:33] win. So why would we would we
[47:34] have to county have to go.
[47:38] Know that. Why would a special
[47:39] measures said, you know, you
[47:47] know, it's over. I understand.
[47:51] I don't think that it's.
[47:52] >> Particularly going to be
[47:52] burdensome and that they're
[47:54] already going to be there. So
[47:56] we're going to already have
[47:57] provided this information to
[47:58] the special magistrate.
[47:58] They're gonna have already
[47:59] have it will already be that
[48:00] we're all going to be there.
[48:03] So for us, it's probably
[48:06] faster and easier if we're the
[48:09] only ones there.
[48:10] >> And I think to to add to
[48:13] that will be much the same as
[48:14] you know, special magistrate
[48:17] for a coat case. You have, you
[48:22] know, you Violation coming
[48:23] before the special magistrate
[48:24] and you still have the code
[48:27] officer present the file in
[48:28] order for the magistrate to
[48:31] make their finding. Even if
[48:32] the person who is appealing
[48:33] her challenging requesting
[48:40] reduction has not.
[48:40] >> Well, I want have ever
[48:41] write this in time them. But
[48:44] the ones are not. I want I
[48:46] want to run a tight ship. This
[48:49] one too.
[48:51] >> We believe this one is very
[48:53] tight. It's within the law and
[48:54] again hasn't been challenged.
[48:54] Commissioner, you want to go
[48:59] be a motion?
[48:59] >> Make a motion to move
[49:02] forward with me with
[49:03] trespassing ordinance as
[49:08] presented second.
[49:09] >> And being advertised just
[49:13] coming back into next meeting.
[49:14] Have everything that you need
[49:18] we do. Thank u k. We
[49:19] commission of a motion by
[49:21] Commissioner bureau second by
[49:22] commissioner. Some are all in
[49:22] favor say Aye. All opposed.
[49:23] Nay motion carries
[49:24] unanimously.
[49:28] >> Okay. We have our ship.
[49:29] Who's going to handle that
[49:39] one? There she is. Pages that.
[49:40] >> Good morning, Martin and
[49:44] the commissioners and so. Our
[49:45] new attorney 2 smiling faces
[49:50] we've this better than before.
[49:51] My name is Lee Seeker. Not on
[49:52] the Affordable housing
[49:54] coordinator for Okeechobee and
[49:58] I am presenting today request
[49:59] to approve are renewed. Al
[50:02] have local housing assistant
[50:03] plan.
[50:05] >> For years 2025 through
[50:07] 2028. So every 3 years we have
[50:08] to renew our local plan and it
[50:13] is up for renewal now. So.
[50:13] There are a couple of items
[50:17] that have changed a little
[50:18] bit.
[50:21] >> One is disaster assistance.
[50:21] >> Florida housing finance
[50:25] recommended. An update on ours
[50:26] because I just didn't have
[50:28] very much detail to it. So
[50:32] it's just an addition of more
[50:34] items that we would be able to
[50:34] assist with after a disaster
[50:38] is declared. And then also
[50:40] adding a new strategy for
[50:48] property tax assistance. See?
[50:49] Yes, sir. We talked about
[50:50] before that. We didn't want to
[50:52] allow.
[50:54] >> First last and security
[50:55] rental assistance or can see
[50:57] it right now. But I found it a
[50:57] couple of times in here where
[51:00] it's still mentions that.
[51:02] >> So it's just first in last,
[51:03] no security deposit. Does say
[51:06] it all in here. Are you
[51:07] looking under the disaster
[51:09] assistance area? Remember
[51:10] where it was? But I found it a
[51:11] couple of times and it is
[51:15] great. I want ask about it.
[51:16] Would we not be better for the
[51:22] landlords protection and the
[51:22] >> the last and the security
[51:26] deposit. And then they. Glenn
[51:28] got best chance of beating
[51:29] scant and he's still we're
[51:32] helping the people.
[51:34] >> So we did a technical
[51:35] revision on Happ back in
[51:37] NOVEMBER. And so that item the
[51:38] security deposit part portion
[51:42] was taken out. So for rental
[51:44] moving assistance, we moved
[51:45] forward with just assisting
[51:48] first and last month's rent
[51:49] because if the tenant moves
[51:51] out, they get that security
[51:52] deposit back. So why are we
[51:53] going to assist with that
[51:53] portion of it? And then
[51:57] they're liable to some form
[51:58] of, you know, responsibility
[52:01] on their part most time. And a
[52:03] tenant moves out that deposits
[52:04] held because they have repair
[52:04] the house. That's what I'm
[52:05] thinking is just to protect
[52:05] our landlords.
[52:09] >> You know? We know that they
[52:10] need something in there. So
[52:13] let them do that. First the
[52:13] end, we help them with the
[52:15] last in the security and then
[52:19] it's a win-win for everyone.
[52:20] And then that said most center
[52:21] that house gets back in the
[52:22] into the circulation for
[52:26] another rental.
[52:29] >> can change that to security
[52:29] deposit mean that friend I
[52:30] don't follow the commission
[52:32] feel that we're not. But I
[52:32] just think that's most thing
[52:35] that we can do out there. So
[52:39] we did also add in I'm sorry,
[52:41] >> that I have to receive
[52:43] notification from the
[52:43] landlord. If I'm assisting
[52:45] with MoveOn assistance that
[52:47] they're up to terms on their
[52:49] So that's something that
[52:50] changes. Well, so people are
[52:51] just moving out and leaving
[52:53] their landlord high and dry
[52:55] and trying receive assistance
[52:58] to To explain what I'm talking
[52:59] about, that there was a time
[53:00] when we gave first last and
[53:01] security. People moved in
[53:03] without skin in the game.
[53:05] >> So what I'm suggesting is
[53:05] let which we said they could
[53:09] do one of the 3. So if they do
[53:10] first and we do blast and
[53:12] security, then that helps
[53:14] landlords position as we do it
[53:15] last and security best and
[53:17] security, they still do too.
[53:18] They have to come up with a
[53:19] first in if they move about
[53:21] the landlord made somewhat
[53:22] hole. They would put the house
[53:23] back in circulation. You MAY
[53:26] create more rentals. The
[53:27] question people know they're
[53:28] protected. Question on that.
[53:33] If we do the security. And
[53:33] everything's fine and they
[53:34] don't need repairs with that
[53:36] check. Be cut back to us ERs.
[53:37] That check will go back to
[53:41] that Renner. That they never
[53:44] that's not their money. So you
[53:44] can't secure it with right,
[53:45] but that you've got to explain
[53:47] that every single landlord,
[53:48] it's almost better if we're
[53:51] going to do too. To make them
[53:54] do this. Security deposit.
[53:55] Because part of their skin in
[53:57] the game 5 don't tear this
[53:58] house up on getting that money
[54:00] back. Where is the first and
[54:03] last Argonne? Regardless just
[54:05] if the goal in this set their
[54:05] listen. We all had this
[54:08] conversation before.
[54:09] >> And frankly, it made more
[54:10] sense to me then that it does
[54:14] now, which is sad. But no no,
[54:16] which also was at the time
[54:17] too, to have them have some
[54:19] skin in the game. If the board
[54:21] is wanting to approve 2. And I
[54:24] would think the one that that
[54:25] you would leave to the renter
[54:28] would be the security deposit
[54:30] just to not have a son that
[54:31] nightmare what are we owed
[54:35] $450 back from 37? 0, 8, North
[54:40] West. 3rd or not, I a.
[54:41] >> they making the landlords
[54:42] got him an escrow account. So
[54:44] that's not an issue. Maybe
[54:46] they could keep the money and
[54:46] what we have to track down
[54:47] somebody on our staff. Right.
[54:49] But it they move out without
[54:52] paying. You can bet you go.
[54:54] Spend $500 on the house. You
[54:54] viewed you know, better than
[54:55] that give because you've been
[54:58] in you know, so I don't think
[55:00] that's an issue. I just think
[55:01] it's a way of helping the
[55:02] landlord. But the house right
[55:03] back out there in circulation
[55:04] for semester at MR. CHAIRMAN.
[55:08] Yes, sir. Is there a cap on
[55:13] the security deposit?
[55:13] >> So there's a Three-thousand
[55:17] dollar cap on that assistance.
[55:18] >> Okay. But there's no cap
[55:20] per se on the security
[55:20] deposit.
[55:21] >> Well, at the moment we're
[55:24] not paying security deposit so
[55:25] first. And last month's rent
[55:30] up to $3,000. I would say.
[55:31] >> Been landlord many, many
[55:38] times. I would say.
[55:38] Commissioner Commissioner
[55:40] Paisley said pay first and
[55:42] last let them bees.
[55:45] Responsible for the security
[55:46] deposit, but kept the sure
[55:49] cure deposit it $500 is
[55:50] because somebody will try to
[55:52] game the system. Some
[55:52] landlords are going get you
[55:56] said just the opposite of You
[55:56] said what commissioner?
[56:00] They're ok, well, governor on
[56:00] commissioner not know what
[56:01] say. They have no control of
[56:02] his could positive for not
[56:06] paying it, but that We don't
[56:07] want control. I mean, we don't
[56:08] want to give it. I'm just
[56:09] saying that we should cap it.
[56:13] If we're going to do do this.
[56:16] If we kept it to where they
[56:18] can sort of $1000 or $1500,
[56:20] not our business, but we're
[56:22] not paying. You just said they
[56:23] first and last about security.
[56:25] So we know that control of I
[56:25] understand. But I mean, I
[56:27] think we can still have
[56:29] control over how much if
[56:31] they're using are if they're
[56:31] using an you're paying first
[56:32] and last and not security. I
[56:35] know But they're there.
[56:38] They're getting fun from us
[56:39] for first and last. But you
[56:41] can't cry with open market
[56:42] progress. Well, take away
[56:44] their rights. You can pay
[56:45] security if you won't do this
[56:46] without paid the security in
[56:49] the last. Either way and
[56:50] taking really doesn't matter
[56:51] to me if we want to do 2 of
[56:55] the 3. I could care less.
[56:56] Which 2 of the 3 I was just
[56:58] going to say some paperwork
[56:59] potentially. I just know one
[57:01] of the big stumbling blocks
[57:02] from people trying to get into
[57:03] a place is playing first
[57:04] lesson. Security could be 3,
[57:08] $4,000. So I was just trying
[57:12] to make it to where. Their
[57:13] rent or pay security deposit.
[57:15] So they would be more likely
[57:16] to take care of it because are
[57:18] getting there. Security
[57:21] deposit back that. I mean,
[57:21] that's that's the way I'm
[57:22] looking at it, that they'll be
[57:24] they'll have that skin in the
[57:27] game. That's what it is right
[57:27] now.
[57:28] >> Okay. So we change that
[57:29] back in NOVEMBER. So this
[57:30] round of funding, that's the
[57:34] way that it has been the
[57:34] guidelines that But there's no
[57:35] cap commissioner to cause no
[57:38] cap, ok?
[57:39] >> Is the security based on
[57:40] one month's rent. Normally
[57:46] normally a okay. If you have.
[57:50] Last month's rent. And your
[57:52] escrow account and you don't
[57:53] collect rent and go to that
[57:54] person say, hey, you know,
[57:54] you're Stu. And they well,
[57:57] we're moving now. At least you
[57:58] have a couple weeks to
[57:58] advertise maybe get another
[58:01] runner at. What's nice about
[58:07] last month. Yeah, right.
[58:08] >> the try this war to you
[58:09] said you, you're suggesting
[58:14] the security and the last.
[58:17] That if live in time when I
[58:19] don't to I'm fine with that
[58:20] because at the but I do think
[58:24] are you suggesting that cap on
[58:24] the security or no cast? I
[58:26] don't think you can set case
[58:26] open market. I don't want to
[58:31] get big league. Well, what I
[58:32] only reason I ask we pay with
[58:33] that were paid, but we've got
[58:35] 3,000 Max's. We can do a case.
[58:36] That's what the cap is for
[58:37] that. That was my question.
[58:39] Total for the are 2 payments
[58:40] of the 3. Right. 3,000 total
[58:44] Okay. I'm toy. So it's just to
[58:45] the second in the in the the
[58:45] security and then we're done
[58:50] with it. And that be an
[58:50] amendment on next year's
[58:51] because this year's already
[58:53] set for
[58:54] >> So we have conditional
[58:55] approval already from the
[58:56] state for this one. But I can
[58:58] still make changes soaker.
[58:59] This doesn't expire until
[59:02] JULY. 1st.
[59:03] >> Okay. She's got some time
[59:04] to make the change to. So got
[59:07] a couple of 3,002 security, a
[59:08] security deposit. And the last
[59:13] is what made the motion on.
[59:14] Motion by Commissioner Bo
[59:15] second by Commissioner Summer.
[59:18] >> Any further discussion? Go
[59:24] along to. To get a little fall
[59:25] on my sword for this. But I
[59:26] still and I guess in my mind
[59:27] think that the fa.
[59:30] >> If actual Renner isn't it's
[59:33] a responsible for the
[59:34] security. They'll do a better
[59:34] job, making sure it's returned
[59:39] and or close to rentable
[59:43] shape, go along with this.
[59:44] >> If you fix that problem,
[59:48] start doing rentals. Mean, I
[59:50] rentals. I agree. Sitting
[59:50] there looking out for the
[59:54] landlord and and the and the
[59:56] so I do have a selection on
[59:57] this. If we are going to
[59:59] assist with security deposit
[1:00:00] in last month's rent, does
[1:00:01] that mean the security deposit
[1:00:02] is going to come back to the
[1:00:04] county?
[1:00:07] >> That's what I That would be
[1:00:08] it. Yes, it was in the past
[1:00:09] that it did not. When we
[1:00:11] assisted with all 3.
[1:00:13] >> So moving forward, is that
[1:00:14] something that we want to
[1:00:16] implement, that it comes back
[1:00:18] to the county, money the
[1:00:19] repairs So we need to make the
[1:00:23] motion clear that
[1:00:24] >> It's a second. Is going to
[1:00:26] be the security deposit in the
[1:00:27] last place. Security deposit
[1:00:28] will be returned to the county
[1:00:30] if they're okay. The amendment
[1:00:35] by commissioner Burrows.
[1:00:35] Deposit to return to the
[1:00:36] county if not needed for
[1:00:38] repairs. Can I get a second
[1:00:40] second? All in favor of the
[1:00:42] amendment say Aye. All opposed
[1:00:46] nay. The motion as amended is
[1:00:50] last and security and for the.
[1:00:51] >> We the pause, it be
[1:00:51] returned back to us if not
[1:00:53] needed for repairs for the
[1:00:55] landlord all in favor say Aye.
[1:00:56] Aye. All opposed. Nay motion
[1:01:00] carries unanimously. Attorney.
[1:01:09] She didn't drown. Okay. It's
[1:01:10] crushing. You can take the
[1:01:11] next one. Sure. We've been
[1:01:15] nice.
[1:01:18] >> I not want to you
[1:01:23] >> comment. All right. The we
[1:01:25] recently amended the Land
[1:01:26] Development regulations for
[1:01:29] the review process for major
[1:01:30] developments. The they will
[1:01:31] now be reviewed by the board
[1:01:33] of County commissioners. Some
[1:01:34] major developments will go to
[1:01:35] the site Plan Review
[1:01:36] Committee. They'll make a
[1:01:37] recommendation. The Planning
[1:01:38] Board independent board to
[1:01:39] make a recommendation to the
[1:01:40] county commissioners. That's
[1:01:44] site plan final form the
[1:01:44] board, one of the opportunity
[1:01:45] to look at some site plans
[1:01:47] little bit earlier in the
[1:01:51] process. So the thought to
[1:01:52] come up with for that was a to
[1:01:53] become does not require
[1:01:54] pre-application meeting that
[1:01:59] lot of places do.
[1:02:00] Pre-application meeting
[1:02:00] generally is is the first time
[1:02:01] the developer showing the
[1:02:05] jurisdiction. The county,
[1:02:06] their basic planned a little
[1:02:06] more conceptual. You have an
[1:02:08] idea of what you want to do,
[1:02:11] but you haven't done all heavy
[1:02:12] engineering yet. So a process
[1:02:13] could be for major
[1:02:15] developments require the
[1:02:17] pre-application meeting. The
[1:02:18] first going to committee and
[1:02:20] then it would still go to the
[1:02:21] board of County commissioners,
[1:02:22] more dust as the part of the
[1:02:24] pre-application process. Given
[1:02:25] opportunity to see it before
[1:02:25] before a lot of the heavy
[1:02:29] engineering done. And then
[1:02:29] with whoever Gretchen, the
[1:02:30] board has they would finish up
[1:02:34] the full set of plans. Go back
[1:02:34] to the center Committee
[1:02:35] Planning Board County
[1:02:40] Commission. So you have The
[1:02:41] new application now you can
[1:02:43] check the box either.
[1:02:44] >> Preliminary or final
[1:02:48] correct?
[1:02:49] >> Yeah, but we probably
[1:02:50] change the wording on the
[1:02:52] little bit so that it's it's
[1:02:54] clear that it is a pre
[1:02:55] application.
[1:02:55] >> But what MAY come pull him
[1:02:58] under? I'm asking I'm be
[1:03:02] difficult.
[1:03:04] >> You know, you get into some
[1:03:07] semantics pre application.
[1:03:08] Before now, formal application
[1:03:11] has been submitted.
[1:03:11] Preliminaries service started
[1:03:12] application process.
[1:03:14] Ultimately, it doesn't matter
[1:03:17] as long as the the developers
[1:03:18] know what that means. We're
[1:03:19] looking for what stage. It
[1:03:20] doesn't matter what we call
[1:03:21] it. So you could live with
[1:03:21] what you would have on your
[1:03:22] application. Yeah. Okay. Do we
[1:03:25] have a fee schedule for this?
[1:03:26] No, we do not have an
[1:03:29] additional fee for We have a
[1:03:30] patient comes how we're going
[1:03:34] handle this. We'll ask for
[1:03:38] donations. So have we don't
[1:03:44] handle Chair good amendment to
[1:03:45] I think that if the board
[1:03:47] agrees to this process that
[1:03:49] will go back and look at our
[1:03:50] fee think bring the fee
[1:03:51] schedule back. We'll see what
[1:03:52] the costs are.
[1:03:55] >> And I don't want to.
[1:03:56] >> Burton anyone, but mean,
[1:03:57] there's got to be cost of
[1:04:01] doing business. MR. CHAIRMAN.
[1:04:01] Yes, sir.
[1:04:02] >> hate to tell I hate to say
[1:04:07] this. I really do. What you're
[1:04:07] doing here is probably going
[1:04:12] to be short lived. Comes to or
[1:04:15] remind yourself of that, ok,
[1:04:15] that what you're doing here.
[1:04:16] Whether or not he does of the
[1:04:20] are not fee. This is the this
[1:04:21] potentially has the ability to
[1:04:22] be short-lived by JULY one.
[1:04:27] Okay. We'll get to JULY. He
[1:04:28] can do about the JULY. But
[1:04:31] after that time we have a
[1:04:33] different will have some
[1:04:34] potentially different ways to
[1:04:35] do And you want elaborate on
[1:04:35] why you think this can happen
[1:04:40] is for them due to fact that
[1:04:42] we have 2 bills in the House
[1:04:45] and the Senate are moving very
[1:04:46] rapidly that they development
[1:04:47] or developer what about the
[1:04:50] shoes? A developer, for
[1:04:52] example, we'll be able to come
[1:04:53] in for large developments. And
[1:04:56] and not have to go through all
[1:05:00] of these processes, MR. Roy's
[1:05:01] would be he would be the way
[1:05:03] we did administrative
[1:05:05] approval. And we look at it
[1:05:06] from the state way. It's
[1:05:07] presented that MR. Roy's would
[1:05:10] be providing that opportunity
[1:05:12] to agree that the development
[1:05:14] is right. So you kind of
[1:05:15] review. Remove all of these
[1:05:18] reviews. To some degree that
[1:05:19] it's still in the process of
[1:05:20] being the sausage is still
[1:05:24] being made. We're still we
[1:05:25] haven't got sausage Stewart
[1:05:27] Udall put Pepper in. I don't
[1:05:30] but in it. But we're trying to
[1:05:33] fight. We're trying to be in
[1:05:34] next week and we're going to
[1:05:35] try work with Senator McLean
[1:05:40] on us. And we got lobbyists
[1:05:41] that are working on a fact
[1:05:42] lobbyists. I got this small
[1:05:43] coalition lobbyists working on
[1:05:46] it, but I think that the
[1:05:48] developers have a lot of money
[1:05:50] and they look and the bottom
[1:05:54] line, what we've been told. Is
[1:05:55] that they're tired dealing
[1:05:57] with the they can pay enough
[1:05:58] money to the legislators in
[1:06:00] order to get get the bill
[1:06:01] created unchanged. Love They
[1:06:08] can deal with this. Can do
[1:06:08] this until JULY one of this.
[1:06:10] Wait to see what the sauces
[1:06:11] looks like. I'm just kind of
[1:06:13] give just inside too. When
[1:06:15] we're talking about the fees
[1:06:16] and everything MAY we just try
[1:06:17] to work through to get to a
[1:06:21] point. And then if you're if
[1:06:21] it doesn't come about when
[1:06:23] JULY one that we at these 2.
[1:06:26] Well, could be least are or
[1:06:27] feeble attempt to hold onto
[1:06:35] home rule. Even if it just
[1:06:36] showing of saying, you know,
[1:06:36] we want to hold onto home
[1:06:40] rule.
[1:06:41] >> was just information for
[1:06:45] the chair. Appreciate. Okay.
[1:06:46] Any other comments the
[1:06:48] suggestions MR. Roast were
[1:06:49] open.
[1:06:51] >> No, again, the impending
[1:06:52] law is bad law I'm That Yeah,
[1:06:57] but I'm talking about, you No,
[1:06:58] I and we'll put it together
[1:07:01] in. Guess is they said, would
[1:07:02] want to know for sure with
[1:07:06] that legislation in the past
[1:07:08] or not? Love and to the past,
[1:07:09] we welcome back to is that's
[1:07:10] not going to pass and we'll
[1:07:10] come to you with ability
[1:07:14] schedule. For the for the fee
[1:07:17] for required a pre application
[1:07:18] conference. To be okay with
[1:07:19] all of it. Yes, sir. Okay. I
[1:07:21] have one question chair. Yes,
[1:07:24] sir, does it make the
[1:07:26] application process longer?
[1:07:27] Yes, that that's how much
[1:07:31] longer. It's probably going to
[1:07:34] have a couple months what we
[1:07:35] have are for relatively
[1:07:38] speaking. We have relatively
[1:07:39] since then. We process anyway,
[1:07:39] but he looking at a couple
[1:07:47] months to it. For myself.
[1:07:48] Commissioner,
[1:07:50] >> the couple months old,
[1:07:58] potentially dissipate. We need
[1:08:04] in the action on this month.
[1:08:04] No, this is your direction. We
[1:08:05] don't need to amend. The
[1:08:06] regulations will just start
[1:08:07] doing it.
[1:08:08] >> Okay, Poland, the border,
[1:08:11] but it good. But proposal. I'm
[1:08:14] good, okay. Thank you, MR.
[1:08:20] Roche, thank you. Okay. So
[1:08:21] MISS Leases. Go ahead with
[1:08:32] this next one. This Lisa. Good
[1:08:37] morning. Good morning.
[1:08:38] >> Approval is required to
[1:08:40] confirm the appointment of
[1:08:42] this caring Kozak as the
[1:08:42] emergency management director.
[1:08:43] For you'll be county county
[1:08:45] pursuant to Florida statute.
[1:08:49] One to 5.7, 4 k the county
[1:08:50] administrator is required to
[1:08:51] bring the employment of all
[1:08:52] department heads to the board
[1:08:54] for confirmation of
[1:08:56] appointment. Codes that comes
[1:08:58] to Okeechobee County Bocc with
[1:08:59] 6 years of emergency
[1:08:59] management work experience
[1:09:01] with Florida Division of
[1:09:02] Emergency Management and
[1:09:04] Port St. Lucie County Board of
[1:09:06] County Commissioners. MISS
[1:09:08] Kozak has her high-performance
[1:09:09] leadership master certificate
[1:09:11] from the National Association
[1:09:12] of counties. Kozak has also
[1:09:14] completed the emergency
[1:09:15] management mid-level
[1:09:18] leadership development
[1:09:18] program. Kozak holds a
[1:09:20] master's degree and emergency
[1:09:21] health services from the
[1:09:23] University of Maryland,
[1:09:24] Baltimore County and a
[1:09:25] bachelor of Science degree and
[1:09:26] public safety from Indian
[1:09:29] River State College. The
[1:09:30] county administrator
[1:09:31] recommends confirmation of
[1:09:32] appointment of ms Caring Kozak
[1:09:34] as the emergency management
[1:09:35] director. We have Kozak here
[1:09:37] with us today and we have
[1:09:41] chief moving as well.
[1:09:44] >> You've got a baby. Tough
[1:09:45] because you didn't run this
[1:09:50] morning. So apologize. We get
[1:09:55] broken in that way. Being that
[1:09:56] process of being solved. I
[1:09:56] think we're going to do that.
[1:10:01] But I hear a lot of good.
[1:10:03] Comments about your work in
[1:10:03] the past and your capabilities
[1:10:06] and as one commissioner, I
[1:10:08] welcome you aboard. Thank you.
[1:10:11] Commissioners have Well, MR.
[1:10:15] CHAIRMAN. Yes, sir. I looked
[1:10:16] and low. The application been
[1:10:18] rejected. But do you live in
[1:10:19] Okeechobee?
[1:10:20] >> Port St. Lucie County, sir,
[1:10:29] about 30 minutes from here.
[1:10:30] >> She's good. She's agreed to
[1:10:35] be here. 24 7 men Hurricane
[1:10:36] activate of any reason Brian
[1:10:37] knew she didn't know she would
[1:10:41] do that and yes. And if any
[1:10:43] other questions, comments.
[1:10:47] CHAIRMAN, yes, sir.
[1:10:48] >> We appreciate you coming in
[1:10:52] and wanting to be part of this
[1:10:53] organization. Erland is is a
[1:10:56] great fire chief, as you saw
[1:10:57] today, unfortunately, wants to
[1:10:58] leave us in a few years. But,
[1:11:00] you maybe you can talk him out
[1:11:03] of that, but we certainly
[1:11:04] appreciate you your your
[1:11:06] resume is is excellent. And I
[1:11:07] her do the things about you
[1:11:11] so. Certainly appreciate the
[1:11:12] fact that you being here. I
[1:11:15] think that you'll be fine and
[1:11:15] enjoy the opportunity into
[1:11:19] hurricane season. Just going
[1:11:24] to be out this year. And that
[1:11:25] the CHAIRMAN Is a weather man
[1:11:27] now, I love.
[1:11:28] >> That's that's the nicest
[1:11:31] thing I've been accused of the
[1:11:31] day.
[1:11:33] >> Well, it's true. It no fun.
[1:11:34] Finger gestures. Just being a
[1:11:35] weather man. I'll make a
[1:11:38] motion to approve the. The
[1:11:42] emergency management. Director
[1:11:46] was caring closet. We have a
[1:11:47] motion by Commissioner Burrows
[1:11:48] second by Commissioner. Good
[1:11:50] bread. Any further discussion.
[1:11:52] >> All in favor say Aye. Aye
[1:11:52] opposed. Nay makes motion
[1:11:55] carries unanimously. Thank
[1:11:55] you. Welcome aboard. Thank you
[1:12:03] so much. Don't hear ok, who's
[1:12:10] going take the next one?
[1:12:11] >> Because that would be me.
[1:12:12] Sorry. I got to keep up here.
[1:12:15] He was still trying rep your
[1:12:16] arms around that weatherman
[1:12:21] position. A
[1:12:25] >> forts. APRIL 3rd special
[1:12:28] meeting. The board discussed
[1:12:29] revisions of administrative
[1:12:31] regulation. 3 point '09, which
[1:12:32] is the general rules and
[1:12:32] procedures for the board of
[1:12:37] County Commission meetings.
[1:12:37] And the revisions that are
[1:12:42] being proposed for for the are
[1:12:44] 3.9 0, 9, is moving. The
[1:12:45] public comment.
[1:12:51] >> To after public hearing.
[1:12:51] Removing the language in
[1:12:52] Section j that I discussed
[1:12:56] previously about the Publix
[1:12:57] hearings have to be placed on
[1:12:58] the consent agenda for
[1:12:58] inclusion for the next day
[1:13:02] because there's no.
[1:13:02] >> State law or any law that
[1:13:04] requires that that was just
[1:13:06] the previous commission.
[1:13:09] >> Have put on there and that
[1:13:12] talking about delays so that
[1:13:13] can delay ordinance is being
[1:13:16] presented to you that are non
[1:13:18] zoning ordinances because
[1:13:19] Zonings ordinances didn't have
[1:13:22] that same requirement. And
[1:13:24] then just the consistency of
[1:13:26] addressing what the speaker
[1:13:26] cards are actually called. So
[1:13:29] they we had a different terms
[1:13:32] that we call it that. So.
[1:13:34] >> If there are
[1:13:40] >> Any questions or comments.
[1:13:44] Administrator yes, sir. And I
[1:13:46] asked this question for the
[1:13:50] sake of people watching Only
[1:13:54] only underwear. I'm sure my
[1:13:54] question, I guess, is supposed
[1:13:55] to the attorneys. This is all
[1:13:59] been fitted. We're doesn't run
[1:14:02] afoul of any state or federal
[1:14:03] laws Constitution First
[1:14:05] Amendment. I mean, this is all
[1:14:09] been vetted and we have.
[1:14:10] PRESIDENT To to stand on. Yes,
[1:14:18] sir. Okay is is State law? I
[1:14:19] mean because from every part
[1:14:22] of this was a state. State law
[1:14:23] that we were making or it
[1:14:28] hearing too.
[1:14:28] >> The administrative
[1:14:32] regulation is compliant both
[1:14:35] with the general protections
[1:14:36] afforded sprees. Free speech
[1:14:37] under the First Amendment of
[1:14:39] the United States Constitution
[1:14:40] as well as Florida's
[1:14:41] government and the Sunshine
[1:14:41] Law and the Florida
[1:14:45] Constitution. I just wanted
[1:14:46] to.
[1:14:46] >> Like I said, those mostly
[1:14:47] for people are watching this
[1:14:48] on the Internet and make sure
[1:14:51] that we have. You we have
[1:14:52] vetted the legalities of this
[1:14:58] and the lesser chance of
[1:14:59] lawsuits. That's
[1:15:00] >> and chair. If I could
[1:15:00] address that a little bit
[1:15:04] further whenever we there's
[1:15:07] requirements for notices and
[1:15:08] some some notices you just
[1:15:10] have to put in the bulletin
[1:15:11] board or somewhere, you know,
[1:15:12] at your facility. And our
[1:15:14] meetings. We just have to put
[1:15:16] those when it comes to public
[1:15:19] hearings, those we have to
[1:15:22] after ties. And so we
[1:15:23] advertised that they begin at
[1:15:25] 9 o'clock. But, you know, we
[1:15:26] try to keep them shortly after
[1:15:27] their. So as we were looking
[1:15:31] at this ordinance and how we
[1:15:33] had 4 made formatted our
[1:15:35] regular meeting. We just felt
[1:15:37] that this was more appropriate
[1:15:38] since our public hearings are
[1:15:38] advertised in the paper to
[1:15:41] begin at 9 o'clock. And then
[1:15:45] the public comments can come
[1:15:45] after that. And there's some
[1:15:46] other regulations to, you
[1:15:49] know, we talk in our and are
[1:15:50] decorum policy and also
[1:15:52] administer regulations that
[1:15:54] the public comments need to be
[1:15:55] near the beginning of the
[1:15:57] meeting, but it cannot be the
[1:15:59] last item on the agenda says
[1:16:00] that was my next follow-up
[1:16:01] because I know that there was
[1:16:01] some.
[1:16:04] >> There was some.
[1:16:05] >> Legality or some law that
[1:16:10] we couldn't not have a public
[1:16:11] comment and it had to be I
[1:16:12] thought had to be towards the
[1:16:12] front of the meeting, but it
[1:16:13] really doesn't matter. Just
[1:16:17] can't be at the end.
[1:16:21] >> Current ordinance that the
[1:16:25] board decorum. The current
[1:16:26] ordinance they're asking are
[1:16:32] the governing the to Carmen
[1:16:33] Citizen participation
[1:16:34] prescribes that the public
[1:16:36] comment needs to be near the
[1:16:37] beginning of the meeting and
[1:16:39] shall not be the last.
[1:16:40] >> Part of what we are
[1:16:41] cleaning up in the ordinance
[1:16:42] that will be before you for
[1:16:45] hearing at the next board of
[1:16:48] County commissioners meeting
[1:16:50] is to make that less
[1:16:51] prescriptive in order to allow
[1:16:52] flexibility within the
[1:16:55] administrative regulation. If
[1:16:55] for whatever reason you on you
[1:16:57] to move that.
[1:17:00] >> And just just to close the
[1:17:01] loop. So we talked about there
[1:17:02] are items that the public, the
[1:17:03] public has people to comment
[1:17:06] on items on the agenda, open
[1:17:07] public forum about items that
[1:17:10] are within your purview. The
[1:17:11] that's the distinction. So
[1:17:12] they do still need to be able
[1:17:13] to comment on items on the
[1:17:20] agenda. And It's just. Where
[1:17:20] it is.
[1:17:21] >> Well, and it's always been
[1:17:23] is always held that if
[1:17:24] somebody came before for
[1:17:25] public comment and they
[1:17:27] started commenting on.
[1:17:28] Something that was later on
[1:17:29] the agenda, we will say, you
[1:17:32] know, sir, ma'am, could you
[1:17:33] please hold your comment until
[1:17:36] that until issue was before
[1:17:37] And that's always been that's
[1:17:38] always been a prescribed in
[1:17:41] our public comment. But just
[1:17:44] just making sure that we're
[1:17:46] suit of armor on for this.
[1:17:48] Thank you, commissioner. We
[1:17:57] do. The questions. Comments.
[1:18:01] We need a motion to so moved.
[1:18:06] And administrative regulation.
[1:18:09] Present. So it motion by
[1:18:10] Commissioner Good bridge.
[1:18:11] Second by Commissioner
[1:18:11] Burrows. Any further
[1:18:15] discussion.
[1:18:15] >> All in favor. Say aye nay
[1:18:17] motion carries unanimously.
[1:18:23] Okay.
[1:18:25] >> I will take the next site.
[1:18:26] And yes, this is to approve a
[1:18:27] work authorization with
[1:18:28] Kimley-horn and Associates in
[1:18:33] the Mountain $245,000 says
[1:18:38] 615, $245,615 for professional
[1:18:39] engineering services to
[1:18:40] complete what we call part b
[1:18:44] of the impact fee development
[1:18:47] and adopt resolution. 25 test
[1:18:48] 16 amending the fiscal year.
[1:18:50] 25 budget to appropriate
[1:18:52] unanticipated expenses for
[1:18:53] funding the impact fee
[1:18:56] development and approve.
[1:19:00] Budget amendment. 25 dash 20
[1:19:01] from the reserve for
[1:19:02] contingencies in the amount of
[1:19:08] $246,000. Okay. So the impact
[1:19:10] fee study costs his comeback
[1:19:14] at to this amount of money.
[1:19:15] 245,615.
[1:19:16] >> He's a little list. Thought
[1:19:17] it might be we were expecting
[1:19:23] up to 400,000, yes.
[1:19:23] >> We the need change the
[1:19:25] wording that the CHAIRMAN Is
[1:19:27] going to sign or agreement
[1:19:29] because agreement has your
[1:19:30] signature on And then the
[1:19:34] final pages side. Yes, sir.
[1:19:37] Whichever one you want prefer
[1:19:38] to do.
[1:19:39] >> And this is authorizing the
[1:19:44] chair to execute the work
[1:19:45] authorization, right, but 2
[1:19:49] years. But if they put sick.
[1:19:50] My name on the work
[1:19:50] authorization and should have
[1:19:51] years because that is the ok,
[1:19:56] i just want to make sure that.
[1:19:57] A good you spend that money
[1:20:03] than me. Season after we just
[1:20:06] need make sure we do that.
[1:20:09] MISTER CHAIRMAN, page. Page 2
[1:20:14] of the agreement. 2.33, of the
[1:20:14] packet we can just to strike
[1:20:17] through manually. Just know
[1:20:20] Okay? Yes, sir.
[1:20:23] >> move we approve. Budget
[1:20:31] authorization. 25 dash 20. So
[1:20:33] we've got. 2 items or do
[1:20:36] right.
[1:20:42] >> It's if you approved the
[1:20:43] the motion or the requests
[1:20:46] that I MAY cause. It's
[1:20:47] approving the dollar amount
[1:20:47] with and entering into the
[1:20:48] agreement, work authorization,
[1:20:52] I should say with Kim Lee Horn
[1:20:54] and also adopting resolution.
[1:20:55] 25 16, which amends the fiscal
[1:20:58] year. 25 budget. And then with
[1:20:59] that comes the budget
[1:21:04] amendment. 25 20 2. Use the
[1:21:07] funds from reserves for
[1:21:07] contingencies. Ludin your
[1:21:09] motion. That's that's how
[1:21:10] minute and ok, we have a
[1:21:11] motion by commissioner. Good
[1:21:12] bread. Second by Commissioner
[1:21:13] Burrows.
[1:21:17] >> And you had the discussion.
[1:21:18] All in favor say Aye. Opposed
[1:21:19] nay. Motion carries
[1:21:33] unanimously.
[1:21:36] It's it too. The
[1:21:56] Red River, gender. Years.
[1:21:59] >> You need a minute. We can.
[1:22:07] You need a ok?
[1:22:08] >> Sorry, I send to tell all
[1:22:12] of security me. It was not for
[1:22:15] this meeting joking. Want to
[1:22:16] live here she thought that
[1:22:17] what I asked her to pray for
[1:22:17] me was for this meeting and
[1:22:24] it's not. So I was confused.
[1:22:28] She so fishy oh, okay. MISS
[1:22:34] Them. Give this year. Yes, I
[1:22:37] have one item and that is
[1:22:38] George Landry the county
[1:22:40] administrator from Port St.
[1:22:41] Lucie County.
[1:22:44] >> And has reached out to sea.
[1:22:47] The 3 other counties that
[1:22:48] participate with the medical
[1:22:52] examiner's costs and have
[1:22:54] asked for negotiations that
[1:22:55] there is that the county
[1:22:56] administrators and one board
[1:23:03] member. Meet to negotiate the
[1:23:05] The meeting is Friday, APRIL
[1:23:06] 25th. It would have to be
[1:23:08] before 2 o'clock because at 2
[1:23:10] o'clock, the medical examiner
[1:23:11] will probably be with myself
[1:23:14] and some of the and the other
[1:23:17] as we discuss the budgets
[1:23:18] because that is the afternoon
[1:23:19] and the 25th 10 from 2 to 5 is
[1:23:21] some budget that they want to
[1:23:23] try negotiate a salary. Yes,
[1:23:29] so there was whenever the
[1:23:30] recommendation came back
[1:23:31] before the board, that was
[1:23:32] just to see if the board was
[1:23:37] in agreement and increasing
[1:23:38] the salary up to the think it
[1:23:44] was 495,000 and so on one of
[1:23:46] the county's boards wanted to
[1:23:47] negotiate. And so that's why
[1:23:51] now it's coming back for
[1:23:53] representative and a
[1:23:54] commissioner for from each of
[1:23:56] the 4 counties too, to
[1:23:57] negotiate with the medical
[1:24:03] examiner. So we don't have a
[1:24:04] final cost. A final salary. I
[1:24:06] should say of final salary for
[1:24:09] her position because that was
[1:24:10] a study that was provided to
[1:24:11] give you a maxim to to show
[1:24:14] you what the study is showing.
[1:24:17] Right in the study shows 4.95
[1:24:17] correct. And she's got offers
[1:24:23] from. Of the places. Yes,
[1:24:24] we're one county's. Where's
[1:24:27] the logic? Yeah. So absolutely
[1:24:32] there appears that.
[1:24:32] >> One county did not get all
[1:24:35] the information that we had.
[1:24:36] And that one county has now
[1:24:39] raised the question. To we
[1:24:40] need to sit down with her and
[1:24:45] negotiator salary. In other
[1:24:45] words, 3 of the county's did
[1:24:46] what we did. But the one
[1:24:47] county didn't get all the
[1:24:51] information. And so now that
[1:24:52] commission has race. That
[1:24:54] answer, maybe we don't agree
[1:24:57] that we need to negotiate.
[1:25:02] Right guests and she.
[1:25:03] >> And there was a negotiation
[1:25:05] process that needed to happen
[1:25:06] anyway. It's just that instead
[1:25:07] of just Port St. Lucie County,
[1:25:08] which I would imagine because
[1:25:09] they they're the ones that
[1:25:13] have facilitated this. Now it
[1:25:15] will be a representative from
[1:25:16] each county. That's that's
[1:25:17] participating with the
[1:25:20] negotiation for the salary. So
[1:25:23] when when we doing this? And
[1:25:27] it is. I haven't heard back.
[1:25:28] The recommendation in the
[1:25:30] letter is Friday. APRIL 25th.
[1:25:33] He said it in a tough any time
[1:25:33] that I responded back to that
[1:25:38] we have. Budget meetings in
[1:25:40] the afternoon meeting with
[1:25:41] 19th Judicial Court system,
[1:25:43] the medical examiner, all
[1:25:45] those other guardian ad litem
[1:25:46] and it's actually over its
[1:25:50] Port St. Lucie County as well.
[1:25:50] So and the medical examiner is
[1:25:52] one of those. So she's would
[1:25:53] have to be in the 2 o'clock
[1:25:57] meeting. So had recommended
[1:25:58] the morning any time before. 2
[1:26:02] o'clock on the 25th.
[1:26:02] Commissioner bows. Been
[1:26:03] working this.
[1:26:07] >> What was your What we need
[1:26:10] to do? I think it's probably
[1:26:12] appropriate. Do the fact of
[1:26:13] what the information that
[1:26:13] administrator allowed me to
[1:26:17] understand the other day. If
[1:26:18] you want me to be on to do
[1:26:19] that, I'll be happy to do it
[1:26:20] or you can do it or anybody
[1:26:22] else. That's what she started
[1:26:24] asking is who do you want? Is
[1:26:24] the commissioner to represent?
[1:26:28] It was hurt.
[1:26:30] >> From a boat. You been
[1:26:32] involved in it. Everything we
[1:26:33] do. I would ask you if you'd
[1:26:39] be so good is to do it. That's
[1:26:40] be we got hear over over I
[1:26:41] would imagine at St. Louis
[1:26:43] County. You like going in
[1:26:46] knowing him. Just doesn't make
[1:26:54] a difference. Nobody knows ok?
[1:26:58] What that? That would be it.
[1:27:03] MR. Nelson. Yes, Sir. I've got
[1:27:04] a few things for Let me bring
[1:27:08] up a couple of. Papers. And
[1:27:09] this is in regards to so we
[1:27:10] move. I want to get this out
[1:27:25] there.
[1:27:44] So I wanted to bring up
[1:27:46] I've met with the supervised
[1:27:46] elections after our last
[1:27:49] meeting. We've had a couple of
[1:27:49] >> a couple of different
[1:27:51] times. We've been to the site
[1:27:54] done a preliminary drawing
[1:27:56] based off of the discussions
[1:27:57] that myself and the supervisor
[1:28:00] of elections have had with
[1:28:02] that, I've put together a
[1:28:03] proposed costs for the
[1:28:04] renovations and tear
[1:28:05] innovation and the front of
[1:28:09] the building to be painted.
[1:28:10] Those costs are in there.
[1:28:12] Sorry, I gave away all my
[1:28:13] papers. I think it ended up
[1:28:16] around $86,000 in total
[1:28:17] construction costs. That space
[1:28:19] is the space that I have
[1:28:20] provided you in the drawings
[1:28:22] gives you an exact site
[1:28:23] utilization for the space, so
[1:28:26] he would be occupying at the
[1:28:27] Alderman building along with
[1:28:30] the layout and design the
[1:28:31] majority of what we're looking
[1:28:33] at in here. It's not really a
[1:28:36] lot of of actual moving of
[1:28:37] laws. Construction cost things
[1:28:41] like that. Most of it is just
[1:28:42] cosmetic renovations of things
[1:28:43] that need to be approved in
[1:28:46] the building. Of course, with
[1:28:46] the numbers I've I've
[1:28:49] provided. Thank Of course,
[1:28:50] with the numbers I have
[1:28:55] provided we do have a
[1:28:56] significant amount of labor
[1:28:57] that's in there. And the main
[1:28:57] intention is to have the
[1:29:01] majority of the work handle
[1:29:01] the facilities, maintenance
[1:29:02] staff because a lot of it is
[1:29:04] stuff that our staff can do.
[1:29:05] So I just wanted to bring that
[1:29:06] up that we're we're intention
[1:29:10] is to be below the $80,860 for
[1:29:14] total construction cost, but
[1:29:15] just wanted the board to be
[1:29:16] aware, looking for a little
[1:29:17] bit more direction. If you
[1:29:18] know, I would love to see all
[1:29:18] the commissioners come out.
[1:29:20] Look at the facility. Look at
[1:29:22] the building. Get an idea of
[1:29:23] the space that so he wanting
[1:29:25] to utilize. And I think it
[1:29:26] would be the best utilization
[1:29:30] of the space met with Ajax,
[1:29:32] which is the current occupant
[1:29:33] of that space. They are
[1:29:34] willing to move to the real
[1:29:35] building until the finish of
[1:29:39] their contract for short term.
[1:29:42] That's a very minimal cost to
[1:29:43] us to do that. We've got to
[1:29:46] pay to have their That's it.
[1:29:47] So it's a very minimal cost
[1:29:48] facilities would handle the
[1:29:51] rest of that move for them. So
[1:29:52] you're not just looking for a
[1:29:53] little bit more direction from
[1:29:55] the board on that to kind of
[1:29:56] how we would like to proceed.
[1:29:59] i would really like to start
[1:30:01] something saying. I said the
[1:30:04] moneys budgeted. We did have
[1:30:05] 200,000 the We've still got
[1:30:08] about one, 98 and some change
[1:30:08] in that budget after we moved
[1:30:13] all of cip. So we used a very
[1:30:14] minimal amount of that budget
[1:30:15] to do what we what plan of
[1:30:18] moving all 3 once the full
[1:30:22] moves done, I will have some
[1:30:22] expenses for the movement of
[1:30:24] the other system. County
[1:30:26] administrator and then a
[1:30:27] conference room wall that will
[1:30:29] have to be built. But it's
[1:30:30] it's minimal. So I think in my
[1:30:32] in my opinion, I think this is
[1:30:33] the best move for the county.
[1:30:39] Just knew. Ajax's using all
[1:30:40] this space currently
[1:30:41] yesterday. This is just the
[1:30:42] space the Ajax utilizing. It
[1:30:43] is time that you've got to
[1:30:44] wait to then move out
[1:30:45] correctness or what they're
[1:30:46] looking to the I mean, yes, we
[1:30:48] but we would move them now as
[1:30:49] soon as the board gives me
[1:30:51] direction, that this is a good
[1:30:54] way to We would put them my
[1:30:55] old Spacey. At the real
[1:30:56] building and that Lisa, you
[1:30:57] said you can move supervisor
[1:31:00] to for now We're talk about
[1:31:01] leaving the situation anything
[1:31:03] because MISTER Nice Candy game
[1:31:04] finished. Her staff goes. She
[1:31:05] didn't have Yes, sir. But the
[1:31:07] problem I have is is the
[1:31:08] state.
[1:31:09] >> To move so equipment that
[1:31:12] has been made by the state.
[1:31:14] That's a 90 day process to get
[1:31:14] that equipment moved. We've
[1:31:17] been working with the state. I
[1:31:18] it departments to working with
[1:31:20] the state along with so we to
[1:31:21] get the stuff that state has
[1:31:23] to move, that we cannot move
[1:31:24] and that could take up to 90
[1:31:27] days. The problem I have is if
[1:31:27] we move them there
[1:31:30] temporarily. We could be up to
[1:31:31] 90 days. If I start
[1:31:32] construction now I can have
[1:31:33] this project finished within
[1:31:36] 90 to 120 days and that then
[1:31:39] done the final. Construction
[1:31:45] is done. So he's moving wants.
[1:31:48] >> MR. So you think you
[1:31:48] answered my questions. Start
[1:31:49] because I knew there was just
[1:31:50] number of 200,000 was floating
[1:31:54] around last last meeting. So I
[1:31:54] think you answered the
[1:31:55] question now is to to release
[1:31:55] an out on this one here.
[1:31:56] You're going to use 80,000
[1:32:00] really 81,000 just how do
[1:32:01] round numbers 81,000 in order
[1:32:06] to get them over there? What?
[1:32:08] So how many months to we still
[1:32:10] have on the regional list
[1:32:11] leases a 10 month supply if
[1:32:12] I'm correct on that.
[1:32:13] Yesterday's around 10 months,
[1:32:15] 10 months that what what
[1:32:16] number?
[1:32:17] >> Our total cost with that
[1:32:19] with our contribution to the
[1:32:22] taxes and maintenance costs.
[1:32:24] As about 35,000 a rents 24 and
[1:32:25] some change. We pay the taxes
[1:32:25] on that building and then our
[1:32:30] maintenance and fees.
[1:32:32] >> So you talk about 3 roughly
[1:32:33] 3,000 a month. So we're going
[1:32:35] to say 30th out. There's
[1:32:37] $30,000 leaving or excuse me,
[1:32:38] not savings so. You're going
[1:32:45] to So moving them over there.
[1:32:47] And so how was it take to get
[1:32:50] this done? I'm hoping between
[1:32:51] 90 to 120 days. I'm shooting
[1:32:52] for 90 days. Is that within
[1:32:54] the 90 days at state make do
[1:32:55] that I have to give the state
[1:32:58] a new address.
[1:32:59] >> Before the state will even
[1:33:01] put it in the process to move
[1:33:01] the equipment that state has
[1:33:05] to So question is. But then
[1:33:06] the 120 days, the 90 days for
[1:33:09] the state is incorporated.
[1:33:10] Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We would
[1:33:11] want to have direction from
[1:33:12] the board. If this is the
[1:33:13] direction we're going, I would
[1:33:14] go ahead. Put in that request
[1:33:16] for the state to move
[1:33:17] equipment. It's got to be
[1:33:22] mayor. I'm okay with MR.
[1:33:26] CHAIRMAN.
[1:33:28] >> Justin guests are with the
[1:33:29] driver used to be is that can
[1:33:31] be just booked a flight itself
[1:33:32] as a bit. Won't be a
[1:33:33] drive-thru. There won't be a
[1:33:33] drive-thru there more. That
[1:33:35] will the ballot storage room.
[1:33:36] Okay? Because it would be a
[1:33:39] conflict. Yes. What goes on an
[1:33:41] alleyway now? Yes, sir. We
[1:33:42] will be blocking that off with
[1:33:43] cars you see in that and the
[1:33:44] design that that window been
[1:33:45] blocking all those present
[1:33:49] included. It's right here. But
[1:33:50] he sure didn't show anything
[1:33:54] there. Yeah. Because a lot of
[1:33:59] people use it. Texas has a
[1:34:00] part of the building used to
[1:34:02] back not Don't come through
[1:34:02] that. That access. They just
[1:34:03] partnered use the back of the
[1:34:07] building for access to go
[1:34:08] today to to get answer to go
[1:34:10] there. And that helps because
[1:34:11] it you're voting. People can
[1:34:13] park in the front and yes, it
[1:34:14] will use another part of the
[1:34:19] can park in the axis. In many
[1:34:20] more questions about a good.
[1:34:24] But this. I'm good Yeah, I am.
[1:34:30] I have one question. Okay. One
[1:34:31] bathroom that's just one
[1:34:32] bathroom right now. Is that
[1:34:36] enough for?
[1:34:37] >> There is sorry to
[1:34:37] interrupt. But if the hallway
[1:34:41] that goes down. There's set of
[1:34:45] public bathrooms in that
[1:34:46] hallway. And once I meet with
[1:34:47] the sheriff's department about
[1:34:48] where exactly that that
[1:34:52] doorway needs to be in hall,
[1:34:53] then we would know how we
[1:34:54] would access that is. But as
[1:34:55] of now, there's one ad a
[1:34:55] bathroom. This in ada
[1:34:58] compliant bathroom. Now we
[1:34:59] will be doing some renovations
[1:35:01] in that bathroom. Just freshen
[1:35:04] it up. But there would be 2
[1:35:05] more a men's and a women's
[1:35:06] bathroom. That's in that
[1:35:07] hallway that we utilize now
[1:35:10] for staff and public restrooms
[1:35:12] for Ajax. So I'm I'm assuming
[1:35:13] that that shouldn't be an
[1:35:15] issue. But I will be meeting
[1:35:15] with sheriff's department
[1:35:17] staff to discuss the location
[1:35:17] of the door. That's at the
[1:35:19] beginning of that corridor. If
[1:35:22] we could move that door back.
[1:35:22] To the back section because
[1:35:23] most the sheriff from
[1:35:26] interstate a rear anyways that
[1:35:27] would give us complete public
[1:35:29] access to those 2 bathrooms.
[1:35:31] Also, I just want to put that
[1:35:31] in there in case it would only
[1:35:32] be for staff to utilize that
[1:35:36] instead of the public. So as
[1:35:38] of right now, the way it lays
[1:35:38] the public bathroom would be
[1:35:39] that bathroom. That's and that
[1:35:43] front space. That you see. MR.
[1:35:45] CHAIRMAN yesterday Justin and
[1:35:48] put you on the
[1:35:48] >> on the front burner on this
[1:35:49] now to make a decision right
[1:35:52] here. Pros. But I'd like you
[1:35:53] to have to be thinking to make
[1:35:55] us a recommendation on what to
[1:35:57] do with the real Luis, whether
[1:36:02] we should. Not renew could go
[1:36:03] month to month if we're not
[1:36:07] quite finished with them.
[1:36:09] Ajax, you using it. But I'd
[1:36:10] like to kind of start thinking
[1:36:14] about that. And was the room,
[1:36:16] no room to spare yesterday us
[1:36:17] doing at the last minute. If
[1:36:18] you don't mind, please, yes,
[1:36:20] sir. And I think we'll look at
[1:36:21] that will go back and assess
[1:36:21] if we need to keep that
[1:36:24] building. But I think the main
[1:36:25] intention is to try to get rid
[1:36:28] of that to get rid of that
[1:36:29] cost is one of the reasons why
[1:36:29] I think that's the most sense
[1:36:33] to So we to this location.
[1:36:34] >> good thing is in the in the
[1:36:35] long term with we have this
[1:36:38] location as we grow. And as
[1:36:39] the sheriff's starts to move
[1:36:43] into their new snore, spaces,
[1:36:45] it So we too new to grow as
[1:36:46] needed and plus, move other
[1:36:47] departments into that facility
[1:36:48] if needed. So I think in the
[1:36:50] long term we we would
[1:36:52] probably. Terminate that lease
[1:36:56] at the end of its term, which
[1:36:57] with the time we have left
[1:36:58] with Ajax is going to be about
[1:37:01] the end of that term. But if
[1:37:03] we look for other spaces are
[1:37:03] think we need any other
[1:37:04] additional spaces, then we
[1:37:07] with look at that. Before we
[1:37:10] terminate that lease. And then
[1:37:11] when had 10 months left on
[1:37:12] yes, sir, about 10 months.
[1:37:19] Okay. Yeah. And so the but
[1:37:19] it's slipped my mind. There's
[1:37:24] talk time.
[1:37:25] >> On on. Didn't did we have
[1:37:26] to do something to the roof of
[1:37:28] the over in building is that
[1:37:28] eventually we were we are
[1:37:30] going to need to replace the
[1:37:31] roof. I often building and I'm
[1:37:32] working through some cost
[1:37:34] estimates right now.
[1:37:35] >> To try to get that probably
[1:37:36] won't go in our next budget
[1:37:37] year, but it will go into the
[1:37:41] to the next. So we're looking
[1:37:42] at getting some cost
[1:37:43] estimates, actually, just a
[1:37:44] couple different design
[1:37:46] options to put that is a
[1:37:47] single membrane roof instead
[1:37:50] of being what it is now. It's
[1:37:51] a it's a gravel and part-time
[1:37:52] reach system out there. Now
[1:37:55] we're looking at some tapered
[1:37:56] iso and going to a single
[1:37:58] membrane type or if so at that
[1:37:59] point, we've got a 50 year
[1:38:01] route from that facility.
[1:38:02] >> then that was another
[1:38:05] suggestion. I was But it's a
[1:38:07] flat roof in that. Yes, there
[1:38:08] a slight root system. So you
[1:38:08] have to frame it up. If you
[1:38:10] want to put men on additional,
[1:38:11] it would be it would be very
[1:38:14] costly to do that. And I think
[1:38:15] with that we have the gutter
[1:38:16] system and everything that's
[1:38:16] inside the facility now still
[1:38:18] in great shape.
[1:38:19] >> Those pipes have been
[1:38:20] painted multiple times over
[1:38:23] the years. So mainly now it's
[1:38:23] just looking at putting
[1:38:25] probably a tape or die. So in
[1:38:26] a single membrane type or just
[1:38:29] a moment, ok? Thank you, sir,
[1:38:29] and appreciate all you do. We
[1:38:30] do appreciate appreciate that.
[1:38:36] Thank you. So everybody's good
[1:38:38] without on moving forward.
[1:38:39] Okay. I will start working on
[1:38:40] that. Trying to get some
[1:38:40] planning stuff together soon
[1:38:43] as possible to get get this
[1:38:44] going. The other thing I would
[1:38:47] like to bring up real quick is
[1:38:48] so facilities maintenance. We
[1:38:51] have 2 chiller replacements
[1:38:52] and I have the agenda item in
[1:38:56] for the next board meeting. We
[1:38:57] have to chill replacements
[1:38:58] that are needing to be done.
[1:38:59] They were budgeted for this
[1:39:01] year. One of them is that this
[1:39:02] building, distillers over 20
[1:39:05] years old, it's failing. And
[1:39:07] then emergency operation
[1:39:08] Center where chief and all the
[1:39:10] staff is that chillers in the
[1:39:12] same type of were having
[1:39:13] issues. We've been having a
[1:39:14] lot of warranty issues and
[1:39:15] service issues with that. Our
[1:39:18] contract is up on the service.
[1:39:18] With both those for
[1:39:22] replacement this year and
[1:39:23] we've been working through
[1:39:25] negotiations with train under
[1:39:26] an army contract and trying to
[1:39:27] get this 2 projects moving
[1:39:31] forward and as you all know
[1:39:32] right now with the things that
[1:39:34] are going on in the open
[1:39:35] market, we kind of got dead
[1:39:38] headed this week. I had
[1:39:39] another conversation with our
[1:39:41] representative which at with
[1:39:42] train, they're trying to hold
[1:39:47] some prices for us. Pretty
[1:39:48] much if we don't sign a
[1:39:49] contract by the end of this
[1:39:52] week for those 2 projects we
[1:39:55] will probably see another 6%
[1:39:57] increase. And the I have the
[1:39:59] contracts available. So if the
[1:40:00] board would allow, I would
[1:40:02] like to see the approval of
[1:40:04] both those on piggyback
[1:40:05] contracts for the 2 facilities
[1:40:08] to go ahead and move forward
[1:40:08] to allow the CHAIRMAN To
[1:40:12] execute both those contracts
[1:40:15] supposed to close said, total
[1:40:16] cost right now for the public
[1:40:19] safety complex. We budgeted
[1:40:21] 200,000 for that project. It's
[1:40:27] coming in at one. 76 8.68. The
[1:40:27] historic courthouse
[1:40:28] replacement. That one because
[1:40:29] we have to replace the pumps.
[1:40:33] Those pumps are failing those
[1:40:34] those 2 pumps that one came
[1:40:35] in. We budgeted 200. It came
[1:40:40] in at 2.51. 29. So with the
[1:40:41] remainder I have the have left
[1:40:42] out of the other one. We'll
[1:40:46] move that over and then I'll
[1:40:47] be moving a probably 30,000
[1:40:48] out of contingency to go ahead
[1:40:49] and cover the additional cost.
[1:40:50] So that should get us to that
[1:40:54] total contract amount.
[1:40:57] >> So in the 6% on that would
[1:40:58] be total of about 2 4,000
[1:41:01] about another $24,000. Yes,
[1:41:01] sir.
[1:41:02] >> Yes, that's why I want to
[1:41:03] bring it up today because I
[1:41:04] had another conversation with
[1:41:05] them with with our train rep
[1:41:07] again this morning. Can you?
[1:41:08] And I asked him, can you
[1:41:10] please hold this until our
[1:41:11] next meeting? And he said, I'm
[1:41:11] doing everything in my power.
[1:41:15] But right now. They're telling
[1:41:16] me that they're there MAY not
[1:41:19] be a way to hold that.
[1:41:20] >> ask a different question.
[1:41:21] So if he doesn't, if we don't
[1:41:25] do this. And he doesn't hold,
[1:41:30] was a outside of the 6%. It's
[1:41:31] just a 6%. That's that's my
[1:41:32] thing is I just want to try to
[1:41:34] keep that cost.
[1:41:35] >> We're already over budget.
[1:41:36] That's what we've been
[1:41:38] negotiating over the last 30
[1:41:41] days is that this building was
[1:41:42] budgeted. We budgeted 200,000
[1:41:44] based off the proposal we were
[1:41:45] given. Of course, we know that
[1:41:49] was last year at this time.
[1:41:50] But this is 20 years old. This
[1:41:52] one here. Yes. And how it one
[1:41:54] of its very so much about 17.
[1:41:55] I think that was 17 years on
[1:42:01] see? Yes, sir. And that once.
[1:42:08] I would say to you. You if you
[1:42:09] see no, Justin came talked to
[1:42:10] me before the board meeting
[1:42:12] today and let me know what was
[1:42:13] going on. And I think it's
[1:42:15] probably in the county's best
[1:42:15] interests, you know, to move
[1:42:17] forward at this time.
[1:42:18] >> Because it's just going to
[1:42:19] cost us more money if we delay
[1:42:22] it any longer.
[1:42:23] >> The lake cost us 24,000,
[1:42:27] roughly. Can you put the
[1:42:28] thermostat somewhere? We can
[1:42:32] get home no, sir,
[1:42:33] >> well, you know, that all
[1:42:35] about in the middle of the
[1:42:36] meeting. Send me a text and
[1:42:38] got change. It got to be some
[1:42:39] way to do it on stat where it
[1:42:43] can be worked by.
[1:42:44] >> So in this system, I just
[1:42:46] want celebrate our stance with
[1:42:47] these to change out. We are
[1:42:49] changing to a different
[1:42:50] control system.
[1:42:52] >> a much more user friendly
[1:42:54] control system. So throughout
[1:42:56] the meetings were right now,
[1:42:57] if I go into Siemens and try
[1:42:57] to do that, do those
[1:43:00] corrections right now, it MAY
[1:43:01] take a huge delay before I can
[1:43:05] make those those changes with
[1:43:06] the new system. I make it.
[1:43:08] It'll be instantaneous to make
[1:43:09] corrections in hat. Do you do
[1:43:12] it on your phone? So I will be
[1:43:13] able to at the new system. We
[1:43:16] need an application. Here's
[1:43:17] can tone and Lana's is just
[1:43:21] not is not.
[1:43:22] >> we've got to come up with a
[1:43:23] different plan you want me to
[1:43:24] keep our power costs down.
[1:43:28] This is what I try to do. Just
[1:43:31] to had been hit with we had.
[1:43:32] But Cotto that, yeah, keeping
[1:43:36] our coast well. I had to get
[1:43:39] you notice aspect to you. But
[1:43:40] to goes downstairs find the
[1:43:41] got you to lower down with
[1:43:41] that, you know, when to quit
[1:43:44] children and worked there
[1:43:45] typewriters. And keep in mind
[1:43:47] that there's that's always
[1:43:49] going. That's always going to
[1:43:54] be an issue in building, a
[1:43:54] home runs. What would a holdup
[1:43:55] and what I brought to great
[1:43:56] things. Look 3.
[1:44:01] >> And chair. We can now set
[1:44:03] the temperature down stairs
[1:44:05] once the alt the documents get
[1:44:06] out from the supervisor of
[1:44:07] elections because we had a
[1:44:08] humidity issue there.
[1:44:10] >> Where items for molding?
[1:44:13] >> Or
[1:44:15] >> there was some old issues
[1:44:17] and we had to control the
[1:44:18] humidity in by country by
[1:44:19] lowering the temperature
[1:44:20] controls the humidity. So once
[1:44:21] those documents are out of
[1:44:25] here, will be able to warm
[1:44:26] everyone up. Yeah, and we'll
[1:44:28] we'll also be working on some
[1:44:29] additional items that will
[1:44:32] help with that humidity. We do
[1:44:32] have an issue in this
[1:44:33] building, keeping humidity
[1:44:36] where it needs to be.
[1:44:37] >> So you need to do
[1:44:37] authorization to go ahead with
[1:44:40] the dew purchases that rents
[1:44:41] Do the transfer. The
[1:44:43] additional funds need to do.
[1:44:46] Cover the additional cost.
[1:44:48] Yes, it and I think the
[1:44:49] transfer because it's coming
[1:44:50] out of contingency should just
[1:44:50] be able to be done with the
[1:44:51] administrators approval to
[1:44:53] under her spending authority.
[1:44:54] >> But we would like the
[1:44:55] consensus from the board to
[1:44:57] make sure we do that transfer.
[1:44:58] Only make a motion to that
[1:45:00] about the Mets going great.
[1:45:03] Make the motion second. We
[1:45:04] have a motion by Commissioner
[1:45:07] Bo second by Commissioner
[1:45:09] summer, say Aye. Motion
[1:45:10] carries Thank you so much. Now
[1:45:13] on on the good side. So I
[1:45:14] don't know if anybody's doubt
[1:45:18] ag Center and if you've
[1:45:21] noticed are cheeky
[1:45:22] replacements going up and it's
[1:45:22] pretty much down will be
[1:45:23] trying to get inspection on
[1:45:27] that over the next week to get
[1:45:28] that finalized. And I know
[1:45:28] staff, they're working on
[1:45:31] landscaping plan to try to
[1:45:32] utilize the rest of the grant
[1:45:35] dollars to finish that project
[1:45:36] up the maintenance building
[1:45:38] out there. Concrete. The new
[1:45:40] concrete cap has been poured.
[1:45:41] So we hope in the next 3 to 4
[1:45:42] weeks to see that building
[1:45:45] sitting on site. So we're
[1:45:46] hoping see the main building
[1:45:50] go up pretty quickly winter
[1:45:52] had a meeting with the also on
[1:45:55] the contract for the tensions.
[1:45:57] And we're waiting on some
[1:45:59] dollar changes to come back
[1:46:01] from them for their best and
[1:46:02] final offer. So we've got a
[1:46:06] lot of projects moving. How's
[1:46:09] that looking Animal control
[1:46:09] framing is almost complete.
[1:46:10] They should start putting all
[1:46:14] the rest of the siding on that
[1:46:14] we're hoping is seen as that's
[1:46:15] done. The Electra Tritions got
[1:46:18] most of his equipment. And so
[1:46:19] we're hoping to see that thing
[1:46:22] probably in the next 60 days
[1:46:24] with all the site work to be
[1:46:26] finished. So we've got premier
[1:46:26] sidewalks and some culverts
[1:46:28] and some other stuff to be
[1:46:30] done. But all the all the
[1:46:31] plumbing the majority of
[1:46:32] electrical and everything's
[1:46:36] done and they should start
[1:46:37] shooting the either today or
[1:46:38] tomorrow. They were finishing
[1:46:39] up training yesterday. Good.
[1:46:41] We should be seeing that move
[1:46:43] along pretty Want to get that
[1:46:43] one done. And we're we're
[1:46:47] looking options for to get the
[1:46:48] kennels right now. Susan's
[1:46:49] working on the pricing for the
[1:46:50] kennels to try to get that
[1:46:54] moving forward. So not parking
[1:46:55] lot at airports going great
[1:46:56] where we're moving along with
[1:46:58] that pretty quickly. So any
[1:47:01] other questions anything year?
[1:47:05] Yes, sir. I brought up a
[1:47:05] couple of meetings. Go about
[1:47:08] got awful pothole.
[1:47:09] >> And from the talk about
[1:47:10] when you said Dot was aware of
[1:47:13] that as well as a couple of
[1:47:14] others.
[1:47:16] >> Any updates as to when
[1:47:17] they're they're there was some
[1:47:18] discussions yesterday in our
[1:47:21] meeting, we had meeting with
[1:47:21] fdot on that project
[1:47:22] yesterday. I sat in that
[1:47:23] meeting and chiefs at and it
[1:47:26] also there were some
[1:47:26] discussions about there's
[1:47:27] there's a coverup couple other
[1:47:28] deficiencies that they still
[1:47:30] have to make. Right. One of
[1:47:31] them is that the bridge
[1:47:32] locations where it meets the
[1:47:33] bridge. Tolling water cause
[1:47:34] asphalt higher than the
[1:47:37] bridge. So there is some some
[1:47:39] that they they know what our
[1:47:41] complaints are, that they have
[1:47:43] a they have not given us a
[1:47:46] timeline on when all those
[1:47:47] repairs will be made there.
[1:47:48] They're looking at how to do
[1:47:48] lane closures and some other
[1:47:52] stuff. And we're just we're
[1:47:53] voicing our opinion. It's not
[1:47:55] our contract and it's not our
[1:47:57] sta. So of course, we voiced
[1:48:00] the opinion multiple times
[1:48:00] that that those and it's not
[1:48:01] just one in front of Taco
[1:48:01] Bell. There's one ever by
[1:48:04] Burger King. That's that's
[1:48:06] very similar. But we're
[1:48:07] voicing our opinion letting
[1:48:09] them as my fact the city
[1:48:10] administrator reached out to
[1:48:11] late yesterday afternoon. I
[1:48:12] have not had time to get back
[1:48:14] with him today and its
[1:48:14] probably some of those
[1:48:19] discussion items. So we're
[1:48:20] working on it. We dot. We're
[1:48:22] doing our best commissioner
[1:48:25] who member the pothole was
[1:48:26] discussed in the last public.
[1:48:31] The public come in the last
[1:48:32] >> chair one other thing do
[1:48:35] want to update them on the
[1:48:35] Falcon. Yes, thank you. I
[1:48:40] thought about that. The Falcon
[1:48:41] we've got the money coming. We
[1:48:44] got I think 27,000 dollar
[1:48:48] offer on They way they your
[1:48:50] condition MAY right there. Not
[1:48:51] that these of we need to leave
[1:48:52] that airport. I need the funds
[1:48:54] the airport
[1:48:55] >> no, no, he gave it back.
[1:48:57] No, you get it back and you
[1:49:00] gave no, no. He gets Ayers.
[1:49:00] No, he gave it back. I need
[1:49:04] the money airport, but yes,
[1:49:06] that it that is moving
[1:49:06] forward. They're actually
[1:49:07] supposed to be wiring us the
[1:49:09] money any day in signing that
[1:49:10] purchase agreement.
[1:49:11] >> So we just had to work out
[1:49:12] some stuff of finance to get
[1:49:12] the money received. They
[1:49:14] wanted to wire transfer the
[1:49:15] funds that will be gone. And
[1:49:18] we're working on the other one
[1:49:20] now. So had a meeting with
[1:49:21] discussion, a crash yesterday
[1:49:22] and told him we need to get
[1:49:23] with a paint shop. We need to
[1:49:24] get the other one removed from
[1:49:27] the facility. Also. So yes,
[1:49:28] thank you. I was happy. That
[1:49:28] was a happy moment to see that
[1:49:33] thing. Go away. She had I
[1:49:34] think that's it. Michelle,
[1:49:35] have any questions on the
[1:49:36] other projects or anything?
[1:49:42] Just comment. Cip is moved
[1:49:44] just figured I know you all
[1:49:45] kind knew that last week we
[1:49:45] were trying to get everything.
[1:49:48] We had that short meeting last
[1:49:49] week. But Cip has now moved to
[1:49:51] this facility. We're all here
[1:49:51] completely unready and ready.
[1:49:54] So anytime you're need
[1:49:54] questions or anything. My
[1:49:57] office is now downstairs. So
[1:49:58] we're for more accessible than
[1:50:03] ever.
[1:50:08] >> Jay,
[1:50:09] >> Good morning to some
[1:50:09] comments real this morning as
[1:50:13] much as Justin had. So staff
[1:50:14] attended the second annual
[1:50:14] fire service at the Capitol
[1:50:18] last week in Tallahassee. We
[1:50:19] showcase fire Rescue Meadow,
[1:50:19] met with Representative Tuck
[1:50:20] and Senator Grall and network
[1:50:23] with fellow department and the
[1:50:25] public. The new engine found
[1:50:25] spectrum is scheduled for
[1:50:28] APRIL. 15th and staff will be
[1:50:28] traveling the Bradenton for
[1:50:30] the day to get that process
[1:50:30] taking care of and hopefully
[1:50:31] get that thing back of Toby
[1:50:34] sing and get in service.
[1:50:35] Following up on some previous
[1:50:36] items, opioid ambulance and
[1:50:37] the associate equipment. I
[1:50:40] have all been ordered and
[1:50:40] working with the budget in
[1:50:41] special projects manager
[1:50:42] through the reimbursement
[1:50:42] process to get that money back
[1:50:46] to They're southeast Florida.
[1:50:47] Fire Rescue's Bruce, the
[1:50:48] quarterly newsletter and we
[1:50:48] plan to have them available
[1:50:49] the next the acc mean for you
[1:50:50] all working with them to get
[1:50:54] this thing printed up APRIL
[1:50:55] 25th. There will be a family
[1:50:57] night for the fire ct cte
[1:50:59] class at the Tri Tran Tower.
[1:51:00] As we're working with
[1:51:01] education foundation of
[1:51:02] Okeechobee, teachers and other
[1:51:03] state counties have to put
[1:51:04] this event together that
[1:51:06] night. Students will showcase
[1:51:07] the things that they learned
[1:51:07] into a scenario in a modified
[1:51:11] firefighter combat challenge.
[1:51:11] We'll be doing awards that
[1:51:12] night as well to the students
[1:51:14] and have a or fresh months.
[1:51:15] We're working on it out of a
[1:51:16] job offer to offer pass the 2
[1:51:18] key student, a job as well.
[1:51:19] That night. Tracie should be
[1:51:21] receiving imitation or later
[1:51:22] than tomorrow for the
[1:51:23] invitation to the commission
[1:51:27] that they're able to attend.
[1:51:28] Last night spoke to man's
[1:51:29] about this. A smart last night
[1:51:30] received an e-mail from a
[1:51:31] lobbyist condo request
[1:51:32] information from the
[1:51:34] governor's Office of Policy
[1:51:35] and Budget Pertaining to the
[1:51:36] fire rescue station. Number 5,
[1:51:37] legislative appropriation
[1:51:39] funding request that project
[1:51:40] is including this in its
[1:51:41] proposed budget, an amount of
[1:51:43] 1 million dollars and spoke to
[1:51:44] this morning about respond a
[1:51:45] request and we're going to be
[1:51:46] doing. That's possible getting
[1:51:48] answers back to the that lets
[1:51:49] players and the report
[1:51:52] question. What was the date of
[1:51:57] the training session APRIL.
[1:52:01] 25th, APRIL 25th. Thank sir.
[1:52:02] What time going to start
[1:52:05] around 5 o'clock Thursday
[1:52:06] night and then we'll but the
[1:52:06] conflict sir, I didn't have a
[1:52:10] lot Say 7. We kind of work
[1:52:11] with Something the school, one
[1:52:12] of worst kind of you in the
[1:52:14] facility. So I know there's
[1:52:15] possibly some conflicts have
[1:52:16] heard about what time of day
[1:52:17] is. They want to start around
[1:52:20] 5 o'clock. And we got the
[1:52:21] Common Council spring Socials
[1:52:28] at night as well. So anything
[1:52:34] else? Sir. Thank you, MR. Roy
[1:52:36] >> Missed an ace just a few
[1:52:36] events coming up to make sure
[1:52:37] you have on your calendars.
[1:52:41] The first is a series of
[1:52:42] Easter events this coming
[1:52:43] Saturday. The library will be
[1:52:44] hosting an Easter event and
[1:52:45] collaboration with the
[1:52:47] Education Foundation from 11
[1:52:49] to one. And then we're going
[1:52:50] to invite all those families
[1:52:51] to go out to Kiwanis Park that
[1:52:52] afternoon at 2 o'clock for
[1:52:54] Parks and Recs, Easter Egg
[1:52:56] Hunt. We're really excited
[1:52:57] that they're bringing that
[1:52:57] back to the community on the
[1:52:59] 12th right on the 12. Yes,
[1:53:01] sir. And then Easter Sunday,
[1:53:03] the Kiwanis and Rotary clubs
[1:53:05] are partnering up for Easter
[1:53:05] breakfast. So I would like to
[1:53:07] invite all of you there. The
[1:53:08] public can get tickets at the
[1:53:11] sheriff's office or online.
[1:53:13] And then just a quick update
[1:53:14] that I know you all are aware,
[1:53:15] but so that the public is
[1:53:17] aware as well. We have a new
[1:53:18] public information officer
[1:53:21] joining us on county staff.
[1:53:21] He's not in the room right
[1:53:25] now. He's downstairs working
[1:53:26] he's realized how big of a job
[1:53:28] it is. So we're keeping pretty
[1:53:30] busy, but the public will see
[1:53:30] some additional things coming
[1:53:31] out on social media and some
[1:53:34] some new things. We're really
[1:53:35] excited. The staff are really
[1:53:36] excited. So he's he's hit the
[1:53:39] ground running and then just
[1:53:41] to wrap up last week, adding
[1:53:41] to the chance to give your
[1:53:45] comments. But the tourism
[1:53:46] department traveled up to
[1:53:47] Washington, D.C., a couple of
[1:53:48] weeks ago for a travel
[1:53:52] represented very well up there
[1:53:53] and were able to see a pretty
[1:53:55] big increase in our traffic to
[1:53:57] our website and app directly
[1:53:58] following that. So it was a
[1:54:03] really beneficial time for us.
[1:54:04] Happy that MARCH is over
[1:54:04] tourism department can get a
[1:54:05] little bit of a break in
[1:54:10] APRIL. The cut your website,
[1:54:14] but they can't comment. Have
[1:54:14] you had to get your leader?
[1:54:16] Whatever without. We've got
[1:54:20] some site just some of our
[1:54:22] thanks. We have to. Because of
[1:54:23] the head-to-head to handle
[1:54:24] that we website so for
[1:54:27] tourism. So we're looking at
[1:54:28] analytics for the tourism so
[1:54:29] we can see how many people are
[1:54:30] visiting our website to get
[1:54:32] more information about Shelby
[1:54:34] County. So the tourism website
[1:54:36] slightly different from the
[1:54:37] county website. You can access
[1:54:37] visit. Okeechobee County dot
[1:54:40] com dot com. Or you can
[1:54:41] download Download our app on
[1:54:43] your phone for visit
[1:54:45] Okeechobee so we can see the
[1:54:46] analytics of how many people
[1:54:46] are downloading, how many
[1:54:48] people are visiting with their
[1:54:50] clicking on. There's no
[1:54:51] commenting options on either
[1:54:53] of those sites. It's just
[1:54:55] purely information. They can
[1:54:56] send us an e-mail through that
[1:54:57] that they can't publicly
[1:54:58] comment.
[1:55:05] >> she's got typewriter.
[1:55:07] Anything is set MISTER De
[1:55:16] Janeiro. CHAIRMAN
[1:55:17] Commissioners.
[1:55:19] >> Brief update on what's
[1:55:20] going You already heard of
[1:55:20] some of tease update. We
[1:55:22] talked about that a minute ago
[1:55:22] on some repairs that need to
[1:55:26] be done for 41. They are also
[1:55:28] the process of wrapping up
[1:55:33] state road, 70 east us 41
[1:55:34] They're gonna be doing repairs
[1:55:34] and stuff over the next couple
[1:55:36] of weeks. But they got the
[1:55:38] right to see 70's Canyon State
[1:55:39] Road, 70 east of 4.41. To
[1:55:45] fill. 41. From 4.41. To 17.
[1:55:48] Okay. It my pot the other
[1:55:50] section is complete. To the
[1:55:57] West so with that, also on our
[1:55:58] side. So we had been in the
[1:56:00] process and we are just about
[1:56:01] wrapped up with renewing all
[1:56:04] of the engineering continuing
[1:56:05] engineering services
[1:56:06] contracts. Everybody's except
[1:56:09] that the one-year extension.
[1:56:09] So we now able to continue to
[1:56:14] do work for the next year. Now
[1:56:15] been slow. If you recall that
[1:56:16] we got h in gp Grant a while
[1:56:21] ago. And we got $100,000 to
[1:56:24] start design work for that.
[1:56:28] We're looking at most likely
[1:56:29] doing master drainage for
[1:56:32] Berman Road for that Hmg grant
[1:56:33] money if there are other
[1:56:35] thoughts than that, open to
[1:56:37] it. But we have to spend that
[1:56:39] money in the next year. And
[1:56:40] I'm thinking that if we get a
[1:56:43] head start on the master
[1:56:44] drainage system for all of
[1:56:45] Burma, Road from State Road,
[1:56:47] 70 down to 7.10, it would be
[1:56:48] well used to use that money
[1:56:52] for that. And that's just the
[1:56:52] design portion. Well,
[1:56:54] hopefully we could use So when
[1:56:55] we do get eroded, prove would
[1:56:56] be ahead of the game. Yes,
[1:56:57] sir, that that's that's the
[1:57:03] thought process behind that.
[1:57:03] >> Storm, one of an ability
[1:57:04] study. We have come to an
[1:57:05] agreement on the additional
[1:57:11] scope to include the city
[1:57:12] >> the dp has the revised
[1:57:14] contract under review.
[1:57:16] >> Once they're ok with but it
[1:57:17] up that vice contract, it'll
[1:57:21] come back to you for approval.
[1:57:22] And yes, it was less than the
[1:57:25] amount that was originally
[1:57:26] given Lofton Road. They're
[1:57:28] continuing to work on the 100%
[1:57:29] plants and still hoped to have
[1:57:34] things ready for midsummer
[1:57:36] forbidding stormwater master
[1:57:38] plan. The we should be
[1:57:41] bringing you the updated
[1:57:42] corrected. Revised report to
[1:57:43] you in the next 30 to 45 days.
[1:57:47] We're hoping scheduled the
[1:57:47] additional survey work that
[1:57:48] was being done on the canals
[1:57:51] is about 95% complete. Now and
[1:57:52] we hope to have the mapping to
[1:57:53] us in the next 30 days for
[1:57:56] review. With that, those my
[1:57:57] updates for today. And if you
[1:58:00] have other questions. Anyone
[1:58:00] have.
[1:58:01] >> Anything you need from
[1:58:04] engineer. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes,
[1:58:06] sir. This MAY fall under your.
[1:58:12] Their purview. Finished the.
[1:58:14] Partnership that we were doing
[1:58:16] uh repair those rows behind
[1:58:20] bills. Many from.
[1:58:21] >> So I I can answer that real
[1:58:25] quickly for commissioner. So,
[1:58:28] yeah, we're we're working with
[1:58:29] the attorneys office has
[1:58:30] provided us. Submitted it back
[1:58:31] with the are with the
[1:58:31] additional information that
[1:58:34] was needed for the inner local
[1:58:34] agreement. With But
[1:58:37] construction is already
[1:58:38] commencing for that. So we're
[1:58:41] already working through it. We
[1:58:42] had the funds in the budget to
[1:58:44] go ahead and move the project
[1:58:45] for. We did not want to remove
[1:58:46] allies as working through
[1:58:48] getting the board's approval
[1:58:49] and the ou a board approval to
[1:58:53] good get that. But we're at
[1:58:54] the end of that agreement, of
[1:58:55] course, is that they've done a
[1:58:56] great job, getting that
[1:58:57] information and get it right
[1:59:00] back to So there and had a few
[1:59:02] items Zach it asked for. And
[1:59:03] we're hoping to have that
[1:59:03] ready to come to our board.
[1:59:06] And do board for the next
[1:59:06] meeting? Thank you very much.
[1:59:09] Yes, sir. Nothing else. Thank
[1:59:15] you, Appreciate it. Okay.
[1:59:22] MADAM Attorney. It's not his
[1:59:30] tone. It.
[1:59:32] >> At this time we do not have
[1:59:34] an update, although I do
[1:59:34] believe there is a topic that
[1:59:36] commissioner Burrows is going
[1:59:36] to raise later that we'll talk
[1:59:41] about. I think you have. We
[1:59:42] just love working with you
[1:59:43] all, but that's all we have.
[1:59:46] Thank you
[1:59:50] >> And a brand what you needed
[1:59:50] than in the elevation. Second
[1:59:55] say I think if I could get a
[2:00:02] booster here, sometimes when
[2:00:05] hoping gets down for obvious
[2:00:11] reasons. You've been
[2:00:12] Commissioner Sumner. I really
[2:00:14] don't have anything keep being
[2:00:16] called about that same pothole
[2:00:17] ad.
[2:00:18] >> Rookie mistake of telling
[2:00:19] Yeah, it's got that taken care
[2:00:23] of. Clearly we're still
[2:00:23] working on it so that that
[2:00:26] was. That was a kind of a
[2:00:31] pressing one a quick note and
[2:00:32] some of you already know this.
[2:00:34] My beds in the hospital. Don't
[2:00:36] really think there's anything
[2:00:38] to majorly wrong. I just got
[2:00:40] back the country last night at
[2:00:42] midnight. And soon as we break
[2:00:43] from go over there. Some might
[2:00:43] have some more from
[2:00:44] information we come back at
[2:00:48] one. Served. But to keep him
[2:00:49] in your thoughts and prayers
[2:00:50] and it's pretty much all I
[2:00:52] have. Commissioner. Good for
[2:00:59] it. All right. I have. Young
[2:01:00] couple that contacted me.
[2:01:07] About. They had a young child
[2:01:08] passed away in child was
[2:01:09] buried in the evergreen
[2:01:11] cemetery.
[2:01:12] >> And they called me and
[2:01:13] asked me about the possibility
[2:01:16] of a private cemetery at your
[2:01:21] house to move 2. Move child
[2:01:23] evergreen to own mother used
[2:01:25] to be years ago. You could
[2:01:26] have a private cemetery on
[2:01:27] your private property where I
[2:01:30] thought that that had covid
[2:01:31] nixed by the state several
[2:01:32] years ago. But said I try to
[2:01:35] find out what the what the
[2:01:36] opportunity is is for that.
[2:01:42] So. Nothing in a hurry. But of
[2:01:42] just we're having to look into
[2:01:47] it and circle back, right?
[2:01:48] That's that's a loss. Early
[2:01:48] currently our land
[2:01:49] Development, land development
[2:01:50] regulations, expression
[2:01:53] prohibit that.
[2:01:54] >> So take if you want
[2:01:54] consider at to change land
[2:01:55] development regulations with
[2:01:58] you can't do that anymore. And
[2:01:59] thought like maybe 20 years
[2:02:01] ago that it. Had changed to
[2:02:03] where you couldn't do that
[2:02:05] anymore. But think the young
[2:02:08] lady approach me about it and
[2:02:09] I said that I would bring it
[2:02:11] up see if there is any any
[2:02:13] path. 2 being able to do that
[2:02:19] for him. So. So I guess
[2:02:20] there's a path that we have to
[2:02:21] change the land development
[2:02:24] regulations to do it.
[2:02:24] >> chair also, I think we
[2:02:26] would need to look into laws
[2:02:30] to make sure that there. I
[2:02:30] don't MADAM Attorney said she
[2:02:34] would okay. She would research
[2:02:40] Get back to us we are going
[2:02:45] tell I'm sure are.
[2:02:46] Administrative staff is going
[2:02:47] to be very happy with the new
[2:02:47] air-conditioners where they
[2:02:48] don't have any more problems
[2:02:51] with their typewriters slide
[2:03:00] rules. So that That's going to
[2:03:03] be nice. You're out of
[2:03:04] >> don't to dip Don't tease
[2:03:10] me. Think we meet before the
[2:03:11] next before Easter. So few
[2:03:12] don't have Easter to
[2:03:15] everybody. Commissioner to
[2:03:24] Carlo. This this month has
[2:03:24] actually been a little slow
[2:03:25] compared to last month.
[2:03:27] >> think everybody would
[2:03:33] agree, but of. I have a to me,
[2:03:35] my wife. We have a lot of
[2:03:35] kids. A lot 7 children
[2:03:39] combined. The 19
[2:03:40] grandchildren. One on the way
[2:03:46] on tv. So make a long story
[2:03:49] short. I spend a lot of time.
[2:03:50] High school baseball last
[2:03:50] season between one of my
[2:03:53] grandkids and my something
[2:03:56] coach. And then we have kids
[2:03:56] playing in the U.S. Air that
[2:03:59] play the ball. Last Saturday.
[2:04:04] My church brought. Group of
[2:04:05] Spanish and turns that wanted
[2:04:06] to do something. Our
[2:04:09] community. So we took them out
[2:04:10] too soccer fields and they
[2:04:13] cook hot dogs handed I thought
[2:04:15] that with the church and by
[2:04:18] and I was amazed at how many
[2:04:21] of our kids play soccer. I
[2:04:24] could not believe that. Going
[2:04:26] in. I encourage everybody to
[2:04:31] do this cra. And the different
[2:04:33] programs. We have so many kids
[2:04:38] that our athletic programs. I
[2:04:39] the hope of the whole soccer
[2:04:41] field areas full. And the
[2:04:42] other night at the ball. I had
[2:04:49] to walk. A couple football
[2:04:50] field length. Someone to say
[2:04:54] 1000 feet or better from where
[2:04:56] I parked. I mean, we we really
[2:04:56] have a lot of kids
[2:04:58] participating in our sports
[2:05:00] programs. My hats off to the
[2:05:02] volunteers as I was on a cra
[2:05:03] boards for years. And I know
[2:05:07] what it takes who does Matt
[2:05:08] Campbell and his assistant at
[2:05:09] the soccer field, the Nissan
[2:05:12] and they all a full plate. I'm
[2:05:16] sure. Thank you very much.
[2:05:17] Commissioner. Boost. Thank
[2:05:19] you, MR. CHAIRMAN
[2:05:20] >> we're going to talk but
[2:05:27] watermelons. So I visit from
[2:05:28] resident on south with 60. So
[2:05:33] the drive yesterday. Concerned
[2:05:33] with the trucks and everything
[2:05:37] would be potentially would be
[2:05:37] going up and down the roof or
[2:05:38] watermelon season and
[2:05:43] eccentric, And so during a
[2:05:44] court that during the course
[2:05:45] of the conversation, it was
[2:05:45] explained to him about the
[2:05:47] right to farm act that they
[2:05:48] didn't believe that that
[2:05:51] applied to that. So. The
[2:05:53] attorney noted has been good
[2:05:54] enough to supply information
[2:05:59] to this this morning. It Zach
[2:06:00] articulate what we have found
[2:06:03] out so far what we can do
[2:06:04] order to helped out not only
[2:06:05] the southwest 67 drive people
[2:06:09] but help ourselves out, but
[2:06:12] not but not too, too. By late
[2:06:15] in the right to work right to
[2:06:16] Farm Act. You didn't go get
[2:06:18] your free watermelon Is in the
[2:06:21] red But if we want
[2:06:21] >> is that with slide rules
[2:06:26] and everything too. Is slide
[2:06:26] rules in the typewriters? Is
[2:06:27] that the same place? Now you
[2:06:31] MAY kick things up. A slide.
[2:06:34] Thank you, commissioner.
[2:06:34] Essentially this set up giving
[2:06:35] everyone a moment at the end
[2:06:37] of the road, honest. They did
[2:06:44] a Senate. I missed it. Go out
[2:06:46] today. That's raising your
[2:06:47] home, we're making to get your
[2:06:48] snow. That's to get my what
[2:06:50] the heck to Go ahead. David.
[2:06:51] Thank you, MISTER Chair, thank
[2:06:54] commissioner. So.
[2:06:58] >> Under the county code, the
[2:07:00] regulation of a commercial
[2:07:01] packing house is under a
[2:07:04] special exception use.
[2:07:06] >> Our code and state statutes
[2:07:07] do not provide definitions for
[2:07:10] a commercial packing house. So
[2:07:16] we looked to. The case law and
[2:07:16] what we have found is that a
[2:07:21] commercial packing house.
[2:07:24] Receiving unpacking produce
[2:07:25] from.
[2:07:25] >> Multiple sources from
[2:07:26] multiple properties for
[2:07:29] multiple owners.
[2:07:30] >> Whereas in as defined under
[2:07:36] an agricultural use. Packing
[2:07:36] operation is incidental to
[2:07:39] agriculture. It's part of the
[2:07:40] you know, that general
[2:07:43] practice and if the packing is
[2:07:45] occurring from a single
[2:07:46] source. You know, you're
[2:07:51] packing your own produce. Then
[2:07:53] that is falls under
[2:07:54] agriculture, which falls under
[2:07:57] the right to farm Act. So we
[2:07:59] are largely preempted from
[2:08:03] regulation of those practices.
[2:08:05] However, the county does have
[2:08:07] jurisdiction to regulate its
[2:08:10] roads. So the county MAY
[2:08:12] establish speed limits limits
[2:08:18] on weights of vehicles.
[2:08:19] >> Establishments hours under
[2:08:20] which certain vehicles are
[2:08:22] certain traffic control.
[2:08:27] >> Maneuvers. Occur on a road.
[2:08:28] So these are all options that
[2:08:32] the county has in order to
[2:08:33] regulate the traffic moving to
[2:08:37] and from. Any facility along
[2:08:40] any road. It just has to be
[2:08:41] across the board rate. You cut
[2:08:44] it. On the regulate the trucks
[2:08:45] going to the packing house.
[2:08:46] You have to regulate all
[2:08:50] trucks. Of a similar kind that
[2:08:51] are moving on that road in a
[2:08:56] similar way.
[2:08:56] >> So what I what I was
[2:08:59] suggesting to the board this
[2:09:00] is like the preemptive strike
[2:09:01] because know that even were
[2:09:01] out there doing watermelons
[2:09:06] right now. So I'm suggesting
[2:09:07] to the board that number one,
[2:09:09] you can't we can't do anything
[2:09:10] in terms of the packing House
[2:09:12] concept because single source.
[2:09:14] But we can control the speed
[2:09:19] limit on the roads and the
[2:09:21] week variations because one of
[2:09:21] those bridges out there is one
[2:09:22] of the bridges that we have
[2:09:23] severe issue or is it an issue
[2:09:27] with? It's on list of bridges
[2:09:30] Stephen I talked about we so I
[2:09:31] think what we've issue should
[2:09:33] be doing is making sure that
[2:09:34] there's a speed limit
[2:09:37] limitations of these trucks. I
[2:09:38] don't think you can limit the
[2:09:40] number of See how you did it.
[2:09:42] You can't you could do
[2:09:44] anything but you can't manage
[2:09:44] it. And so I don't want to do
[2:09:45] something you can't manage to
[2:09:48] make some sense to me. But I
[2:09:49] do think that you can manage
[2:09:51] the time. That the trucks can
[2:09:55] run on the road. Right?
[2:09:55] Because you got mining trucks
[2:09:57] and you've got watermelon
[2:10:00] trucks. So you managed to tie
[2:10:00] mean the time in which they
[2:10:05] can run. Like for
[2:10:06] hypothetically a 7 o'clock to
[2:10:07] 5 o'clock or 7 o'clock, 77 or
[2:10:09] whatever it MAY be. I think
[2:10:13] you can manage that. In terms
[2:10:15] thank you. Manage the number
[2:10:16] of trips, the budget So what I
[2:10:17] do want to do is meant to put
[2:10:19] something in place that you
[2:10:20] can't manage. That's that's
[2:10:23] not that's not feasible. But I
[2:10:25] do believe we can manage the
[2:10:26] hours of operation on that
[2:10:28] road. And how could what would
[2:10:31] juror? Did you have a police
[2:10:35] officer now? They are.
[2:10:36] >> Phone over the running at a
[2:10:38] different time. How would put
[2:10:39] that last year? They can. We
[2:10:42] did that last year. Already.
[2:10:43] >> up. What I'm proposing is
[2:10:43] nothing more than what we did
[2:10:45] last year at ad from 7 o'clock
[2:10:48] to something number. We've
[2:10:49] already done desk before we
[2:10:50] did the right to Farm Act.
[2:10:51] Under the right format. I
[2:10:55] don't. I think you can do
[2:10:56] speed limits, but I don't
[2:10:56] think teach you can do limit
[2:10:57] Haitians on that. But
[2:11:01] >> first of all, this demands
[2:11:02] finished when does his crop.
[2:11:03] He's going to get another
[2:11:04] piece of property purchased
[2:11:05] and he's gonna go go into this
[2:11:08] year. You know, he's going to
[2:11:09] do is giving away the one of
[2:11:12] those not I thought you're not
[2:11:13] getting know he'll no, no, no.
[2:11:14] There been a good neighbor. By
[2:11:16] the time to get some benefit.
[2:11:18] In a season debut? 6 weeks and
[2:11:22] it's gone. And that's just a
[2:11:26] suggestion. Mean, I want to
[2:11:27] work with you because I know
[2:11:29] you get I got complaints
[2:11:30] there. So that's all I'm
[2:11:32] saying is I think we should
[2:11:33] institute the same thing we
[2:11:34] had last year and not do
[2:11:35] anything different with prove
[2:11:37] we could do that and the right
[2:11:38] to Farm Act. You had to pull
[2:11:39] no word right? Far might than
[2:11:41] anything to do with the roads.
[2:11:43] >> But if it does,
[2:11:44] commissioner read the farm to
[2:11:46] market Road has has a of farm
[2:11:48] to market road. It is
[2:11:49] commissioners farm market long
[2:11:50] before it was ever subdivision
[2:11:52] was a collector road. Is that
[2:11:53] the same thing? Well, it could
[2:11:55] be the same thing, but that
[2:11:57] Rove was constructed to go to
[2:11:59] the ranch, right? And I think
[2:12:00] has. I read the contract
[2:12:02] yesterday or the agreement
[2:12:02] from the attorney, which I
[2:12:06] will let them read. I think
[2:12:07] there are some things in there
[2:12:08] will definitely change thought
[2:12:09] process that has not been
[2:12:13] done. But we're still talking
[2:12:14] about 6 weeks from now. It's a
[2:12:18] thing of the past. Yeah, I
[2:12:19] just put that out all I'm
[2:12:20] looking for right now is I
[2:12:22] just said. I didn't know the
[2:12:22] illnesses because I haven't
[2:12:27] paid attention to it. But what
[2:12:29] we did last year, that's all
[2:12:30] I'm suggesting is just get
[2:12:32] what we had to pull off last
[2:12:34] year because it was a miracle
[2:12:36] that we didn't pull off last
[2:12:36] year. We did to MR. Chair, I
[2:12:39] MAY
[2:12:42] >> I believe there was there
[2:12:44] is an issue related to.
[2:12:47] Permitting of the use and
[2:12:48] there's a separate issue
[2:12:50] related to use of the road. My
[2:12:51] understanding is that road is
[2:12:57] a county. Maintained road. And
[2:12:58] because it is under our
[2:12:58] jurisdiction, we have the
[2:13:01] ability to regulate things
[2:13:05] like speed limit weight limit,
[2:13:07] even hours of use or hours
[2:13:10] that is open to certain types
[2:13:14] of traffic. If it has a a
[2:13:14] reasonable relation to the
[2:13:15] health safety and public
[2:13:20] welfare. Certainly related to
[2:13:20] speed limits and weight
[2:13:24] limits. I would. Want to have
[2:13:25] through the ministry or make
[2:13:27] sure that we're working county
[2:13:28] engineer to make sure that
[2:13:30] those are supported. With a
[2:13:34] rational basis. But as the as
[2:13:37] the county maintain road, we
[2:13:40] have a large degree of
[2:13:41] regulatory authority, Mr
[2:13:44] Chair. But this meant
[2:13:45] Commissioner David, what they
[2:13:45] continue. Police just some
[2:13:46] things as you're discussing
[2:13:47] this, you might want to
[2:13:48] consider so.
[2:13:48] >> We can regulate by
[2:13:56] category. But not by business.
[2:13:59] So if you say, you know, Fi
[2:14:00] heckles, veteran or trucks,
[2:14:01] you can even do trucks. The
[2:14:03] category.
[2:14:04] >> over 5,000 pounds, whatever
[2:14:10] the pounds or whatever.
[2:14:10] Permitted can have those type
[2:14:12] of signs, you can have signs
[2:14:14] that say that limit hours that
[2:14:18] it wouldn't be just 4. The
[2:14:20] watermelon. It would be for
[2:14:21] the agger, you know, the other
[2:14:21] business that's down there as
[2:14:22] well. So just something you
[2:14:23] want to consider, you know,
[2:14:28] with the timing. Whenever you
[2:14:30] place this on the road. Also,
[2:14:31] whatever sign each needs to go
[2:14:34] through our county engineer to
[2:14:36] make sure we're in accordance
[2:14:37] with in utc, dea regulations.
[2:14:37] And of course, we also want to
[2:14:40] provide that language to the
[2:14:41] sheriff's department because
[2:14:42] they are the ones that enforce
[2:14:45] the sign each so.
[2:14:46] >> And that if I MAY, MISTER
[2:14:49] Chair. You said you can't do
[2:14:53] it to a specific Ty. There's a
[2:14:54] lot of people in that
[2:14:55] residential area who MAY be
[2:14:55] hooking up to their horse
[2:14:58] trailer. And pulling out of
[2:14:58] their 5 o'clock in the
[2:15:02] morning. Include my brother
[2:15:03] that lives on that road.
[2:15:03] Nothing route horse, but his
[2:15:07] wife, Kim. So if you say,
[2:15:09] well, we can't have any ag
[2:15:11] trucks on the road. Before 7
[2:15:14] and after 7. All those
[2:15:15] residents, there's a pile of
[2:15:19] horse people. Up and down that
[2:15:22] road and there's a All right.
[2:15:23] And there's also straight
[2:15:23] years ago back over the dirt
[2:15:24] road to there's rather than
[2:15:26] Sarah. So we.
[2:15:27] >> And I don't think the issue
[2:15:30] we ran into last year. We
[2:15:33] didn't have a problem with of
[2:15:34] putting time on when they go
[2:15:38] in and out of Are up times of
[2:15:41] operation for That was a great
[2:15:42] an agreement.
[2:15:44] >> both parties signed and MR.
[2:15:46] Lewis had to go back and
[2:15:48] apologized. I'm trying to be
[2:15:48] controversial delays, but he
[2:15:49] had go back and said that was
[2:15:51] not the case. And had to
[2:15:52] retract it.
[2:16:03] >> Did you retract that? It
[2:16:03] got complicated. Yes or I did
[2:16:07] not. Put anything in writing
[2:16:08] retracting the temporary use
[2:16:11] permit. In JUNE. We had
[2:16:12] discussions, but I not been to
[2:16:14] writing retracting
[2:16:15] >> All right. So here, so this
[2:16:16] to make this overly
[2:16:20] complicated. I think you've
[2:16:21] got coast. You've got customer
[2:16:24] complaints and we got another
[2:16:25] issue about I want the
[2:16:31] attorney to review. Agreement
[2:16:32] because there's things in
[2:16:34] agreement have not been done.
[2:16:35] And that's been brought.
[2:16:36] That's now that's been brought
[2:16:37] to my attention. Salted the
[2:16:40] Chopin or what? And you're
[2:16:44] talking about that and 90. You
[2:16:44] show them. I the money
[2:16:45] because, okay, good. That
[2:16:48] operation. Not the yes, not
[2:16:49] the head to the peace, but
[2:16:50] this is things over-all I'm
[2:16:53] trying to do is clear up. Some
[2:16:54] controversy before it gets out
[2:16:55] of hand. So want her to take
[2:16:58] that. A document. Let the
[2:17:01] attorney review it. And so
[2:17:02] let's make sure that we don't
[2:17:03] have a controversy that we
[2:17:04] don't I think we already have
[2:17:10] enough of those. All right. So
[2:17:12] the point is that we can't
[2:17:13] control it, if you want to
[2:17:15] control, then almost done that
[2:17:16] we're just going to have to
[2:17:17] come go with the complaints
[2:17:17] and that based on the board
[2:17:19] doesn't want to control. Said
[2:17:20] that So what I'm hearing, MR.
[2:17:24] CHAIRMAN. I would suggest
[2:17:31] that. Your hours of operations
[2:17:32] with just daylight hours, but
[2:17:35] usually. 70's to 7 ish. I
[2:17:36] mean, that's and it's easy
[2:17:38] enough to know if daylight are
[2:17:40] not outside stuff. It's 7
[2:17:41] o'clock or
[2:17:41] >> 12 minutes till 7 and just
[2:17:46] daylight hours. And 2
[2:17:47] commercial vehicles. And that
[2:17:52] would take away your euro.
[2:17:55] Horse trailers does rodeo
[2:17:56] yesterday has shown the motion
[2:17:58] there commercial commercial
[2:17:58] that without a dot number on
[2:18:01] it to be commercial. Check a
[2:18:03] driver's license. Omens of
[2:18:06] cdl. So but right. You're
[2:18:10] telling me if I woke up to.
[2:18:10] >> It didn't have enough snag
[2:18:11] it. But I hope my into my
[2:18:14] truck. But a load of hay on
[2:18:14] and got to have commercial
[2:18:16] license.
[2:18:18] >> Well, no, you have to in
[2:18:21] Georgia, but in head and 7,000
[2:18:23] pounds, well, I don't I
[2:18:24] wouldn't have to cut that
[2:18:26] Biggs it because of home. My
[2:18:26] right of for you. I've got a
[2:18:28] habit that they just hadn't.
[2:18:29] >> Presentation on that
[2:18:31] yesterday. Theory, the
[2:18:32] >> watermelon truck for
[2:18:33] homegrown product. But the
[2:18:36] shell trucks or not. Well, but
[2:18:38] the watermelon trucks coming
[2:18:38] out.
[2:18:43] >> The semis that are loaded.
[2:18:44] Owner-operators, not the old
[2:18:45] the buses they have caught up
[2:18:46] of the services. Do you know?
[2:18:50] It's a 2 pronged problem?
[2:18:57] Well, more Well, I I don't and
[2:18:58] stand corrected if am. But I
[2:19:03] didn't think folks, Boehner,
[2:19:03] horse trailers also forces to
[2:19:05] the rodeo or go work
[2:19:06] elsewhere. What have you? I
[2:19:07] didn't think they would run
[2:19:10] afoul of any. Dot regulations
[2:19:11] where they could be considered
[2:19:13] commercial.
[2:19:14] >> This isn't a dot
[2:19:20] regulation. This is. Proposed
[2:19:22] county but ended. According to
[2:19:24] our attorney, what's good for
[2:19:24] the goose is good for the
[2:19:26] gander. So if you're shutting
[2:19:27] down the watermelon truck to
[2:19:32] shut down counter show that
[2:19:32] let go on record for I
[2:19:35] >> pro farmer. Probe Provost,
[2:19:39] trailer pro watermelon.
[2:19:40] >> I was just trying to find a
[2:19:42] happy medium to because I'm
[2:19:43] pro.
[2:19:44] >> Residents of that area
[2:19:48] that, you know, they don't
[2:19:49] want watermelon truck lumber
[2:19:53] o'clock at night but that
[2:19:53] makes that But then again, I
[2:19:58] can't see it from my house.
[2:19:59] All right. What's your
[2:20:00] suggestion, commissioner?
[2:20:01] Well, my suggestion is if
[2:20:03] board doesn't want to do any
[2:20:05] type of of restrictions on the
[2:20:07] watermelon truck. So in terms
[2:20:08] of hours.
[2:20:09] >> The news does it for us to
[2:20:10] do Your discovery, this letter
[2:20:12] run just the way it is and
[2:20:12] we'll deal with the
[2:20:20] complaints. Go ahead that.
[2:20:21] >> I understand what her
[2:20:22] mental also come into this
[2:20:25] neighborhood. Great. Yes,
[2:20:26] They're not grown. They're
[2:20:27] right. Because I know that we
[2:20:31] had drilled wells in that area
[2:20:32] and it is set up for farming.
[2:20:33] There's probably 20 a bench
[2:20:37] will for their so. For
[2:20:38] another, it's good that ranch
[2:20:42] could, you know, cut side.
[2:20:45] Produce a or be formed at one
[2:20:46] point. So I mean, could be
[2:20:47] more to it than just what
[2:20:48] we've got going on.
[2:20:52] >> Just just saying.
[2:20:55] >> Much just and if you don't
[2:20:55] want, if you don't want to put
[2:20:56] any restrictions on the route
[2:20:58] would just deal with deal with
[2:21:01] complaints.
[2:21:03] >> admission, MR. Chair, if I
[2:21:07] MAY, I just want to.
[2:21:08] >> That.
[2:21:09] >> If it's not the will of the
[2:21:12] board to regulate additional
[2:21:14] option that MAY or MAY not
[2:21:15] address some of the resident
[2:21:17] complaints could be related to
[2:21:18] speed limit. I'm not aware of
[2:21:19] what the current speed limit
[2:21:23] is, but if it if it's lowered
[2:21:26] to say 25 miles per hour, that
[2:21:28] MAY help alleviate some of the
[2:21:28] complaints, I believe related
[2:21:31] to maybe noise. Just as an
[2:21:36] additional suggestion.
[2:21:36] >> And look into this Trucks
[2:21:38] are going to slow for most
[2:21:39] people think that Not going to
[2:21:40] tell us about the engineer
[2:21:42] that one. I think.
[2:21:45] >> On that when we MAY need a
[2:21:46] traffic study and then she
[2:21:47] nears shaking his head. Yes,
[2:21:50] if it back and that's normally
[2:21:51] aiming their state laws for 25
[2:21:52] miles per hour. You know, in
[2:21:54] your neighborhood center. But
[2:21:56] once you get on to a collector
[2:21:57] road and this is probably
[2:22:00] considered collect collector
[2:22:02] road, then there'll have to be
[2:22:03] traffic studies. All right. So
[2:22:04] let's eliminate the red tape.
[2:22:05] Because number one, if you put
[2:22:07] a speed limit, sign out there,
[2:22:08] was go pay attention to it
[2:22:08] than I have to have the
[2:22:10] deputies out there.
[2:22:13] >> So this is like it this is
[2:22:14] collective issue that has no
[2:22:15] response to it or knew
[2:22:19] reasonable response because?
[2:22:20] >> And I even when we had
[2:22:23] hours last year.
[2:22:27] >> 7 to 7 or where it was,
[2:22:27] they still run past hours. And
[2:22:30] and we we had to tried to talk
[2:22:33] to him and they still ignored
[2:22:35] it. So it's almost like you
[2:22:35] don't have control over your
[2:22:36] dog on road, which is an
[2:22:40] aggravation to me is anybody
[2:22:42] can do whatever they want out
[2:22:43] there and it doesn't making a
[2:22:45] difference whether this
[2:22:46] residential people either.
[2:22:48] We've got huge residential
[2:22:49] communities continued that
[2:22:50] community is continuing to
[2:22:52] build. You have more have a
[2:22:55] lot of traffic out there. So I
[2:22:55] think it you were going to
[2:22:56] have to start thinking about
[2:23:01] the residents there versus.
[2:23:02] What is going on out on that
[2:23:06] for peace. One piece of
[2:23:06] property. And so if that's the
[2:23:07] case, don't want to do
[2:23:09] anything that's fine. But I
[2:23:11] want that document that I get
[2:23:12] to her. Yesterday was the was
[2:23:14] the lawsuit. I want that
[2:23:15] reviewed because he was
[2:23:16] brought up to my attention
[2:23:18] yesterday. There were there
[2:23:19] are things in there that have
[2:23:19] not been done. That should
[2:23:23] have been done. If I get a
[2:23:24] controversy based on the facts
[2:23:26] of this conversation I had
[2:23:28] yesterday, I want to nip the
[2:23:28] bud before it gets too out of
[2:23:34] hand. So that's my that's
[2:23:35] that's my only thing I have to
[2:23:36] say. But the right, I want to
[2:23:38] move on to this because I
[2:23:38] don't see any resolution to
[2:23:44] it. On your legislative just
[2:23:45] briefly state. What's going
[2:23:47] what's going to cause some
[2:23:51] problems? I we MAY have. We'll
[2:23:51] see how well term term limits
[2:23:52] passed the house yesterday.
[2:23:55] Went to the House floor. The
[2:23:56] Senate is still sitting in the
[2:23:57] first committee. It hasn't
[2:24:01] moved, which is a good thing
[2:24:05] there are with term limits
[2:24:05] potentially maybe more
[2:24:07] positive than what we
[2:24:09] anticipated. Some of the
[2:24:10] things you need to pay
[2:24:13] attention to is the charter
[2:24:14] communications is put a bill
[2:24:17] to to. If we if we have to
[2:24:20] move any facilities, broadband
[2:24:21] facilities, if you're going to
[2:24:22] do a new road project or
[2:24:26] whatever. County would be
[2:24:27] responsible for payment of
[2:24:28] that facilities had just to
[2:24:31] give me an idea the other day,
[2:24:36] just 2 more mile little about
[2:24:36] $211,000. And that does not
[2:24:37] include to the relocation of
[2:24:40] the facility. So this is
[2:24:41] something you got to start
[2:24:47] paying attention to rpc
[2:24:47] Illuminations as which is a
[2:24:52] senators that to potentially
[2:24:53] be eliminated with that. We
[2:24:55] thought that was good. But
[2:24:55] seems to have somebody put it
[2:24:57] on the oxygen and its crime
[2:25:01] started breathing again. Unity
[2:25:03] got modified to yesterday
[2:25:08] believe it's still 1, 2,
[2:25:09] 501 million, which is not too
[2:25:11] awful bad. But the issue is is
[2:25:12] a language is still there.
[2:25:15] That's detrimental to the
[2:25:16] county account that that
[2:25:18] language because basically a
[2:25:19] stipulated said we the county
[2:25:19] commissioner can go over the
[2:25:22] limit. We can negotiate over
[2:25:24] the limit and that we're
[2:25:25] trying to remove that. We
[2:25:26] don't want that. That's the
[2:25:27] trial lawyers are upset now
[2:25:30] that it went from 500 to a
[2:25:32] million. We want to make sure
[2:25:34] there are a little bit more
[2:25:34] upset taking that because
[2:25:40] detrimental for us. I did find
[2:25:43] that those those funding now
[2:25:46] for the low car. That's the
[2:25:47] new study of the reservoir.
[2:25:47] This up in Highlands County
[2:25:48] will store to Earth that has a
[2:25:53] 200,000 Square foot. That's
[2:25:55] the one for store in water
[2:25:56] above water above the ground,
[2:25:59] which I think 3 options. One
[2:26:00] is live in Florida water, but
[2:26:01] Brown one, 15 foot one, 17
[2:26:03] foot. So I don't know what the
[2:26:04] option is, lady at what they
[2:26:06] do, they do have the go ahead
[2:26:09] to purchase a land as well. As
[2:26:10] with this way. The bill went
[2:26:12] too from the Senate yesterday.
[2:26:14] 37 0 and with the House
[2:26:15] probably passed out the
[2:26:16] governor to sign be signed off
[2:26:21] on. Also have a bill that's
[2:26:23] moving pretty good. This is
[2:26:24] removing all special
[2:26:24] assessment. So we have some
[2:26:28] special assessments here. We
[2:26:29] have some lighting assessments
[2:26:32] that we have out here. It will
[2:26:34] remove all remove that from us
[2:26:35] being able to do those who
[2:26:37] will have to be go back to
[2:26:38] regular tax payer, be value
[2:26:43] revenue tax. They also have a
[2:26:44] bill to move with additional
[2:26:46] homestead for people who are
[2:26:47] rental properties. You have
[2:26:47] rental properties that have a
[2:26:49] long-term lease over 6 months.
[2:26:50] You'll be able to have
[2:26:50] homestead exemptions on those
[2:26:54] rental properties. That's a
[2:26:56] good use for Homestead it. So
[2:26:57] the other things is that
[2:26:59] they're moving pretty quickly.
[2:27:01] There's a lot of confusion in
[2:27:02] the legislature, little bit of
[2:27:05] infighting. The governor wants
[2:27:08] $1000 per homestead individual
[2:27:10] to to those folks and that
[2:27:12] that's probably not going to
[2:27:14] go. We don't think that's
[2:27:14] going to The scent of the
[2:27:18] House is doing reduction in a
[2:27:20] number of different sales
[2:27:21] taxes. Sales tax went from 6%
[2:27:25] to 5.2 5%. And then there's
[2:27:25] other taxes that are being
[2:27:26] cut, corporate tax and things
[2:27:29] of that sort. So asked
[2:27:30] administrator to start paying
[2:27:31] attention that because the
[2:27:33] reason for that is because we
[2:27:34] are going to be affected by
[2:27:37] passes and we're starting to a
[2:27:38] budget process and she needs
[2:27:39] to understand everything. It's
[2:27:44] going impact the budget. Also,
[2:27:46] those Dozier is even though we
[2:27:48] we've sent back all of our
[2:27:49] information. We do still think
[2:27:49] the rule counties are going to
[2:27:53] be affected too much. But is
[2:27:53] going to start look at the
[2:27:54] necessary and unnecessary
[2:28:01] expenses? And going to be
[2:28:02] minding Councils the like the
[2:28:04] regional Planning Council know
[2:28:05] that this is a survivor. Well,
[2:28:07] regional planning councils
[2:28:08] clear that when I told you got
[2:28:08] this started breathing air
[2:28:12] back into the building. But
[2:28:14] what I'm talking about now is
[2:28:15] that they'll be looking
[2:28:16] individual counties and look
[2:28:18] at your necessary and
[2:28:18] unnecessary expenditures. And
[2:28:20] my question is, what is the
[2:28:20] definition unnecessary
[2:28:24] expenditure? So I I think
[2:28:25] going to have a real difficult
[2:28:27] budget time this year. It's
[2:28:30] going to be very interesting.
[2:28:34] Hold onto your hat, especially
[2:28:35] when they're start to come to
[2:28:36] doing some of these bill
[2:28:37] cuttings. I think the property
[2:28:39] taxes eliminates your property
[2:28:42] tax was a media fodder that
[2:28:44] the governor put out there.
[2:28:47] For that, I think he fully
[2:28:48] understood that there was no
[2:28:48] way you can do that. That made
[2:28:49] it 51 billion dollar hole in
[2:28:52] the state of Florida. So I
[2:28:54] think they're trying to figure
[2:28:55] out what they can do to help
[2:28:56] people on their property tax
[2:28:57] right now. But wrote a letter
[2:28:58] to each one of the
[2:28:59] representatives on Saturday
[2:29:03] for specific bill and said
[2:29:05] that, you know, the polls in
[2:29:06] the state of Florida are
[2:29:06] looking for people be helped
[2:29:07] on homeowners insurance and
[2:29:08] car insurance. Car insurance
[2:29:12] is the highest in the nation.
[2:29:12] Homeowner. Sure homeowners
[2:29:16] insurance is high. And
[2:29:17] nobody's doing anything about
[2:29:18] it. But we will go after
[2:29:19] people for the county
[2:29:20] commissioners and school board
[2:29:21] people on term limits it. And
[2:29:22] that's reason. I wrote the
[2:29:25] letter and said you people are
[2:29:25] are good and going after low
[2:29:26] hanging fruit you want you
[2:29:27] don't want to deal with the
[2:29:31] tough stuff. And so on. So I
[2:29:34] get my language move it.
[2:29:35] They're not dealing with the
[2:29:39] things that's necessary and
[2:29:41] that we do with every single
[2:29:42] day there. Number Preemptions
[2:29:43] as of the other week was over.
[2:29:48] 51. And I'm not sure how pass
[2:29:48] but component mandates are
[2:29:51] continuing to fly out and
[2:29:53] collect this one with moving
[2:29:54] the broadband facilities out
[2:29:57] of the right away. I had a
[2:29:57] flippant answer the other day
[2:29:59] on the meeting with some
[2:30:03] folks. Just pave over. They
[2:30:05] go. They go bad. You dig it up
[2:30:05] and you replace that yours.
[2:30:10] You replace salt yourself. You
[2:30:12] know, me, that's that's a
[2:30:12] nose, flippant answer. But
[2:30:13] guess what, some people to
[2:30:14] say? Well, that was a good
[2:30:17] answer. But to unfortunately,
[2:30:18] you know, that that's going to
[2:30:20] come down to trying to figure
[2:30:21] out why doing this. And we're
[2:30:22] going to be quite frank
[2:30:23] charter communications has
[2:30:26] paid out bunch of checks. And
[2:30:27] so it's things point to move
[2:30:31] through it. So we have right
[2:30:31] in the middle of budget
[2:30:35] negotiations right take a
[2:30:36] look. We get to the the
[2:30:40] appropriation. How's that they
[2:30:42] are. The Senate has both of
[2:30:43] our appropriations in and they
[2:30:45] and the House only has one of
[2:30:46] the appropriations. The house
[2:30:47] does not have the fire and
[2:30:48] we're trying to push it along
[2:30:50] to get it in there. But the
[2:30:52] issue, the vice a versa, vice
[2:30:53] versa. Yeah, Senate that have
[2:30:57] it. Still working, trying to
[2:30:59] get that pushed in there
[2:31:00] because I think that that's
[2:31:04] necessary because obviously
[2:31:05] we're trying to plan for a
[2:31:06] number of homes that between
[2:31:06] MAY come in here. But we need
[2:31:10] that. The last thing is it's
[2:31:13] it's a little something since
[2:31:14] I'm the CHAIRMAN Of the board
[2:31:17] of trustees at the hospital.
[2:31:18] This come to us the other
[2:31:19] couple weeks ago, Brian asked
[2:31:24] me to talk about it. Back The
[2:31:25] people in the community, by
[2:31:26] their insurance on the
[2:31:31] marketplace. The market place
[2:31:32] receives an enhanced premium
[2:31:32] tax credit from the federal
[2:31:36] government. So that allows
[2:31:37] people to buy health insurance
[2:31:38] at a lower level. Alright,
[2:31:43] lower cost. That premium tax
[2:31:44] credit sunsets at the end of
[2:31:47] this year. So you say to
[2:31:48] yourself, what does that mean
[2:31:49] to us? Well, and in our
[2:31:53] county, there's 4,000 380
[2:31:56] people that their insurance
[2:31:57] premiums will now go up over
[2:32:04] 100 percent. So now what? So
[2:32:05] what I'm asking you I would
[2:32:06] like for the commission to
[2:32:10] write a letter and address it
[2:32:12] to Representative Franklin
[2:32:16] Senator Scott to support this
[2:32:17] enhanced premium tax credit to
[2:32:22] be reissued. A reissued by the
[2:32:24] before the end of the year.
[2:32:27] It's an says on the end 2025.
[2:32:31] But we include those centers.
[2:32:33] is glued the Senate and the
[2:32:33] House reputed Congressman
[2:32:37] Congresswoman Franklin
[2:32:38] probably do Senator, Moody and
[2:32:42] Senator Scott and can Franklin
[2:32:46] get a consensus for affair.
[2:32:47] That will get prepared Senate
[2:32:48] place to info. Appreciate all
[2:32:50] right. You for ok? Thank you,
[2:32:50] sir.
[2:32:54] >> I'd like for the you a
[2:33:01] direct around. In a straighter
[2:33:02] to come back and give this
[2:33:03] report. Did you know we've
[2:33:04] looking for that quarterly and
[2:33:09] >> when I talked to Last week
[2:33:10] week before asking about the
[2:33:12] water line you're putting in
[2:33:14] from the project south of
[2:33:16] Buckhead Ridge coming back to
[2:33:17] the tower. And he said he did
[2:33:18] not have a permit with them.
[2:33:18] He said he thinks it
[2:33:24] permitted, but with d e p
[2:33:25] >> dot. But as being in
[2:33:26] Stoughton, I don't have to go.
[2:33:28] He says they can come and
[2:33:29] connect. Dan, I don't
[2:33:29] understand that. But I would
[2:33:32] like to know more about that.
[2:33:36] Out. All the things going on.
[2:33:37] Just little amazed at that
[2:33:38] because we still haven't had a
[2:33:38] response back from Glades
[2:33:41] County how they want us to
[2:33:42] handle all the emergency
[2:33:43] management, that type of
[2:33:45] thing. So it looks like that
[2:33:46] developments going on and we
[2:33:47] don't have a solution. We have
[2:33:54] we have the but emergency in
[2:33:57] medical side covered. But the
[2:33:58] fire said of, you know, we're
[2:34:00] doing is mutual aid. Industry
[2:34:01] be so that needs to be looked
[2:34:04] at before that. They continue
[2:34:08] Think. But a half. We could
[2:34:10] come give us report about
[2:34:11] that. And then the first
[2:34:14] meeting in MAY asked we allow
[2:34:15] a company that 2 economic
[2:34:17] development group is working
[2:34:20] with. They're looking to do
[2:34:21] basically everything. We have
[2:34:24] left in industrial park except
[2:34:29] for the lots of see taxiway.
[2:34:30] 6. They looking to do a lot.
[2:34:31] They come in give they gave us
[2:34:32] presentation of the day. That
[2:34:36] was really, really, really
[2:34:37] good presentation. If the
[2:34:38] board sees is and I would hope
[2:34:39] we get get their support to
[2:34:41] continue on with the and be
[2:34:42] able to allow them to put all
[2:34:45] 6 lots in one place and we
[2:34:46] some lots that we have there
[2:34:48] now that are misaligned. But
[2:34:54] there are. It could building
[2:34:55] so we could work on all of
[2:34:56] that. The first meeting in MAY
[2:34:58] it be appreciated. Commission.
[2:34:59] Okay. With bringing that to
[2:35:04] us. Ok, I'm ok Goodness. All
[2:35:07] right. Anything else? We're
[2:35:12] All ok,
[2:35:27] we'll call the meeting order.
[2:35:40] Missed. Depend. You suggest we
[2:35:41] proceed?
[2:35:43] >> Yes, sir. So I'll just give
[2:35:48] lead into the to it. What's
[2:35:51] transpired before this? So
[2:35:52] just a little bit of
[2:35:53] background on JANUARY 15th of
[2:35:55] this year, the county
[2:35:57] advertised for a request for
[2:35:57] qualifications for
[2:35:58] professional water, quality
[2:36:02] and environmental services.
[2:36:05] The request for qualification
[2:36:05] was advertised in Okeechobee
[2:36:07] news pay for social media
[2:36:07] platform of Cherokee County
[2:36:08] Web page and the county's
[2:36:12] vendor registry. A public
[2:36:13] service evaluation committee
[2:36:16] consisting of the 2 assistant
[2:36:17] county administrators. The
[2:36:18] director of public works. The
[2:36:19] county engineer and the
[2:36:23] Capital Project manager
[2:36:24] created to review the
[2:36:25] proposals make the
[2:36:26] recommendation to the board as
[2:36:29] to the firms that were most
[2:36:30] qualified and they rank. Then
[2:36:33] at board meeting MARCH 27th,
[2:36:34] the board confirmed that they
[2:36:34] would interview the top 2
[2:36:40] ranked firms. And at 1 o'clock
[2:36:41] we have a presentation from Wg
[2:36:44] I and Todd Polk, who is
[2:36:45] director of Federal Water
[2:36:46] Management. Business
[2:36:47] Development is here for that
[2:36:50] presentation today. And then
[2:36:54] at one 45 pm or after finish
[2:36:55] with the first presentation we
[2:36:57] have consulting services and
[2:36:59] the protest. Current
[2:37:00] presentations MAY be made by
[2:37:04] Brian Roy. Each applicant is a
[2:37:05] lot of 15 minutes to make
[2:37:07] their presentation to the
[2:37:08] board. And then the board will
[2:37:10] have 30 minutes to ask
[2:37:11] questions to 30 minutes, ask
[2:37:13] questions of the applicants
[2:37:14] and have further discussion if
[2:37:19] they would like. And at this
[2:37:20] time, Sir, I'll turn it back
[2:37:22] over to you. But Wg I is the
[2:37:28] first presenter. And I said
[2:37:31] Todd was going to make so you
[2:37:32] can We haven't we have a team
[2:37:33] here. That's ok, we're going
[2:37:35] introduce everybody just a
[2:37:35] moment.
[2:37:39] >> Shouldn't seem tame. Oh,
[2:37:42] no. As All-Star. Are you ready
[2:37:43] to start Em? Our CHAIRMAN
[2:37:46] Guests are good afternoon.
[2:37:48] Good afternoon. I'm Michael
[2:37:50] Davis. And on behalf of the
[2:37:51] wga team, thank you for giving
[2:37:52] us some time this afternoon.
[2:37:52] We look forward to talking to
[2:37:54] you and your questions and I
[2:37:55] can almost assure will not
[2:37:56] need to call the police
[2:38:03] because this presentation in
[2:38:04] your rfq, there's really 2
[2:38:06] major components. Just kind of
[2:38:07] the advocacy ponitz component
[2:38:09] representing the county.
[2:38:09] Understand what's going on in
[2:38:10] the county, particularly the
[2:38:13] rich to water environment. And
[2:38:14] then there's the technical
[2:38:15] pieces of that understanding
[2:38:16] how the infrastructure all
[2:38:17] fits together. So that's kind
[2:38:19] of how we organize this today
[2:38:20] and you're going to see a
[2:38:21] theme throughout this
[2:38:24] presentation. We're going to
[2:38:24] talk about the All-Star, a
[2:38:25] team that we put together for
[2:38:29] you Okeechobee County. We're
[2:38:30] going to talk about the the
[2:38:32] bench that Wgi brings where
[2:38:32] national firm based out of
[2:38:35] West Palm Beach. And we have
[2:38:38] 6, 7, 100 resources engineer,
[2:38:39] scientist planners to be a
[2:38:42] resource for the county. We
[2:38:45] have local knowledge. We've
[2:38:46] work with the agencies that
[2:38:47] are doing things that
[2:38:48] potentially affect the county
[2:38:49] both positively and
[2:38:49] negatively. We know those
[2:38:51] agencies, many of us actually
[2:38:52] worked for those agencies at
[2:38:57] one point. We have offices
[2:38:58] throughout the state of
[2:39:00] Florida and Washington, D.C.,
[2:39:01] where you need us the most
[2:39:03] where where where brown these
[2:39:04] agencies and where they are at
[2:39:05] the center is where they have
[2:39:05] their leadership so we can
[2:39:10] reach out to them. We can. We
[2:39:11] bring unprecedented grant
[2:39:12] writing and funding support.
[2:39:13] We know that eventually as
[2:39:15] things are identified, we have
[2:39:15] to figure out a way to pay and
[2:39:16] how to help you figure out a
[2:39:17] way to pay for him. We have
[2:39:22] that on our team. Letting the
[2:39:25] public know what's going on in
[2:39:25] and affected meaningful way is
[2:39:26] really important. And
[2:39:27] obviously one of the tools we
[2:39:28] use today is our websites and
[2:39:32] we've got a really top notch
[2:39:33] website designer team on our
[2:39:34] team to help the county with
[2:39:39] that. Maybe one of the most
[2:39:39] important things are going
[2:39:40] hear about today is our track
[2:39:46] record. We have proven success
[2:39:47] with nearly 200 similar types
[2:39:49] of contracts as this one would
[2:39:51] be throughout Florida with
[2:39:52] counties with cities, state
[2:39:54] agencies and so on. We know
[2:39:55] how to do these general
[2:39:56] services contracts and
[2:39:59] successfully meet our clients.
[2:40:01] Expectations and we're ready
[2:40:01] to start. We can start
[2:40:02] tomorrow. Ready to go and help
[2:40:07] you Beecher objectives. So let
[2:40:08] me just introduce a few of our
[2:40:11] team members here. I am
[2:40:12] Michael the senior vice
[2:40:13] PRESIDENT Chief strategy
[2:40:15] officer, a wgi but prep
[2:40:17] perhaps what's more relevant
[2:40:19] as I was the former deputy
[2:40:19] assistant secretary of the
[2:40:23] Army for the Court Engineers
[2:40:24] over the quarter leading the
[2:40:25] policy and legislation for the
[2:40:26] core. I started in that agency
[2:40:27] right out of graduate school.
[2:40:29] I worked for him for 23 years.
[2:40:31] Most of that in Washington,
[2:40:32] D.C., I know the agency. I
[2:40:35] know how they operate. I know
[2:40:37] the frustrations that they
[2:40:38] impose sometimes on local
[2:40:39] communities in counties and
[2:40:40] can help work around some of
[2:40:44] that. As you know, we have
[2:40:45] Todd Polk, retired lieutenant
[2:40:46] colonel from the Jacksonville
[2:40:47] District, the Army Corps of
[2:40:47] Engineers touch been 25 years
[2:40:50] in the Army. He served as the
[2:40:52] deputy direct command or for
[2:40:54] Jacksonville. What's really
[2:40:55] important, I think is he
[2:40:56] served the South Florida
[2:40:58] region. This area. He spent
[2:41:00] his time with Jacksonville in
[2:41:01] this area working with the
[2:41:02] agencies working on projects.
[2:41:05] He knows what's going on here
[2:41:07] and he has good relationships
[2:41:07] with those agencies actually
[2:41:13] like him. He's a good guy.
[2:41:14] We're really happy that about
[2:41:15] 2 years ago, Melissa Mckinlay
[2:41:17] joined Wgi after serving 8
[2:41:18] years as a county commissioner
[2:41:21] in Palm Beach County.
[2:41:22] Melissa's had the pleasure of
[2:41:23] sitting up that the Dyess air
[2:41:25] as part of the 16 County
[2:41:27] coalition. So she is an
[2:41:27] advocate for agriculture.
[2:41:29] She's an advocate for the
[2:41:31] Glades area of the Lake area.
[2:41:34] And she'll be a great addition
[2:41:36] to you in terms of government
[2:41:37] relations and understanding
[2:41:39] what's going on in Tallahassee
[2:41:40] and Washington. On the
[2:41:44] technical side, we have John
[2:41:45] Abbott. John, is our director
[2:41:47] of Environmental Sciences. And
[2:41:48] John, we get all the planning
[2:41:48] and environmental components
[2:41:51] of this bringing in our team
[2:41:52] when we need to deal with the
[2:41:55] planning and design of
[2:41:57] environmental things. His
[2:41:58] counterpart spread over
[2:41:59] threats are vice PRESIDENT For
[2:42:00] civil Engineering? Grad has a
[2:42:01] team of about 80 civil
[2:42:06] engineers working for him and
[2:42:07] and will will he will be kind
[2:42:07] of looking at are your cip
[2:42:09] your infrastructure, your
[2:42:10] needs going forward and lead
[2:42:12] that effort. How do we pay for
[2:42:14] the stuff? Critical? I mention
[2:42:17] that. We have former state
[2:42:19] representative Michael Langton
[2:42:22] leading our grant writing team
[2:42:25] here. He has spoke your a
[2:42:26] billion and a half dollars
[2:42:27] worth of grants in Florida.
[2:42:29] Very, very successful. He's on
[2:42:30] our team. He's ready to go to
[2:42:33] help the county against
[2:42:38] funding for this. And finally,
[2:42:39] the leadership team here we
[2:42:40] have former dep Secretary Noah
[2:42:45] Valenstein. No love will lidar
[2:42:47] advocacy group as it relates
[2:42:50] to the epa and Tallahassee and
[2:42:51] he he knows obviously former
[2:42:52] secretary knows the people. He
[2:42:54] knows the rules. He knows when
[2:42:55] they're playing games and when
[2:42:57] they're not. And so no, be a
[2:42:59] great resource to our team as
[2:43:00] well. So with that
[2:43:01] introduction, I'm gonna turn
[2:43:03] it over to Colonel Polk talk a
[2:43:08] little bit about our team.
[2:43:09] Thank you very much for that.
[2:43:10] And up to my Clinton after
[2:43:11] commissioners, I'm Todd Pope.
[2:43:14] I am the
[2:43:15] >> project manager for you
[2:43:16] all. And I would be your
[2:43:18] primary point contact for the
[2:43:19] wgi team. And again, it's I'm
[2:43:20] humbled and honored to be back
[2:43:21] in these chambers and speak
[2:43:22] before you all today. You
[2:43:25] know, simply. As a as Michael
[2:43:28] mentioned, only seems like.
[2:43:29] But we are where you need us
[2:43:31] to be. Now whether it's up in
[2:43:32] Tallahassee, Jacksonville,
[2:43:35] West Palm Beach or Wash dc
[2:43:39] Wgi. We have the pulse. And we
[2:43:40] can be there. We know what's
[2:43:42] going on. You know, we're only
[2:43:43] hour and 15 minutes from here
[2:43:45] that we can be at the agency
[2:43:46] headquarters inside West Palm
[2:43:47] Beach and 15 minutes a given
[2:43:49] time. But the most
[2:43:50] importantly, though, really is
[2:43:52] a long-standing relationships
[2:43:53] that we have with the agencies
[2:43:54] and how they operate. That's
[2:43:58] going allow us to advocate.
[2:43:58] For you. And and what should
[2:43:59] county's water environment
[2:44:05] needs are? No, we are a full
[2:44:08] service from and greener ucf
[2:44:09] highlighted specific areas
[2:44:09] that were in the rfq that we
[2:44:11] have in House. Over 50 years
[2:44:15] ago. We were founded and
[2:44:15] remain headquartered. West
[2:44:17] Palm Beach starting with 3
[2:44:19] people in over going over 600
[2:44:22] today of the 60250 reside now
[2:44:24] in central and southern
[2:44:26] Florida. And, you know, we're
[2:44:26] committed Okeechobee success
[2:44:29] because we know just how
[2:44:30] interconnected the water makes
[2:44:30] us. All of us here in South
[2:44:35] Florida. You're Michael talk
[2:44:36] about the grant rant. Funny,
[2:44:37] right at our team is that by
[2:44:39] Michael Lynton, as you've
[2:44:40] heard, he's a proven record
[2:44:43] and 40 years of success,
[2:44:44] nearly 900 million dollars in
[2:44:45] the last 5 years alone. And
[2:44:46] are the oldest grant reading
[2:44:50] from and Florida? He's, you
[2:44:51] know, knows better than
[2:44:52] anyone. I to help us navigate
[2:44:53] through these rough and murky
[2:44:54] waters on the federal grant
[2:44:56] Grant Arena at this time. You
[2:45:01] know. Okeechobee County, you
[2:45:02] need an advocate, someone
[2:45:03] actively seeking and going
[2:45:04] after those one opportunities
[2:45:06] at all levels. You know,
[2:45:06] someone is ready to assist
[2:45:08] your staff and enhance or
[2:45:10] staff. Now what we know a
[2:45:11] fiscally sound county like
[2:45:14] Okeechobee, these every
[2:45:16] available dollar and who help
[2:45:16] you get And as you can see
[2:45:19] that to list the top on the
[2:45:20] right. And you know, those are
[2:45:22] those are state and federal
[2:45:24] grants that are available at
[2:45:31] this time show county. Now the
[2:45:32] cornerstone of educating
[2:45:33] improving your constituents,
[2:45:33] understanding on the county's
[2:45:35] position for water,
[2:45:36] environmental quality issues
[2:45:37] really a user friendly
[2:45:41] intuitive Web site. The
[2:45:42] website will integrate
[2:45:43] multimedia assets, incorporate
[2:45:45] search engine optimization.
[2:45:46] That's what this, you know,
[2:45:49] stands for up there, which
[2:45:51] basically helps the search
[2:45:52] engine understand your content
[2:45:53] and help you help them come to
[2:45:55] that faster. Basically. And
[2:45:56] when you type in Google, you
[2:45:57] start right in Okeechobee
[2:45:58] County just before you finish
[2:46:01] up much of the county, your
[2:46:02] Web sites pop up to the top
[2:46:03] and that's what they're going
[2:46:04] to make sure we have happened.
[2:46:04] That's what our team that we
[2:46:08] brought on. Konrad pr.
[2:46:09] Definitely one of the best in
[2:46:11] the business will be working
[2:46:11] with your staff to make sure
[2:46:14] meeting website needs just
[2:46:15] like they did Lee County and
[2:46:16] that Web plan that they
[2:46:18] developed, you know, and it's
[2:46:20] a it's a great credit to your
[2:46:21] staff there and who brought
[2:46:22] with that recommendation of
[2:46:22] for such a great website to
[2:46:24] take a look at the model. So.
[2:46:25] With that, though, I will now
[2:46:32] introduce. John at user. I'm
[2:46:33] John Abbott. I head up our
[2:46:33] environmental department at
[2:46:36] Wgi. Compared to most of our
[2:46:37] competitors. We offer a much
[2:46:40] deeper bench of technical
[2:46:41] experts.
[2:46:42] >> Whatever services you might
[2:46:43] need of the next few years of
[2:46:44] term of this contract. We have
[2:46:46] the experts to do that. We
[2:46:50] have about 600 engineers. What
[2:46:51] scientist, wildlife
[2:46:54] biologists, geologists
[2:46:55] contamination experts,
[2:46:55] planners, geospatial dollars
[2:47:01] and a whole lot more. We have
[2:47:02] state-of-the-art technology
[2:47:03] storm was is the gold standard
[2:47:05] for water quality modeling?
[2:47:06] Not only do we use we
[2:47:09] developed it. Own it. Our
[2:47:09] competitors come to us to get
[2:47:13] their licenses. Flood another
[2:47:15] one of our own internal
[2:47:16] models. It provides real-time
[2:47:21] flood forecasting. The latest
[2:47:22] geospatial technology, for
[2:47:22] instance, that camera there on
[2:47:24] your at the bottom. We were
[2:47:26] the first in the world to buy
[2:47:30] that. It is a state-of-the-art
[2:47:31] infrared Cape. Wolf camera. We
[2:47:33] attach it to a piloted fixed
[2:47:35] wing aircraft. We can fly it
[2:47:36] over the county integrate. It
[2:47:38] was artificial intelligence
[2:47:38] and machine learning and map
[2:47:42] the whole county. Is this good
[2:47:44] for hog hunting and coats and
[2:47:45] sure is an infrared victim
[2:47:45] right out.
[2:47:49] >> That year. We have relevant
[2:47:53] and local experience. The top
[2:47:55] left the Kissimmee River
[2:47:56] restoration. 65 the spillway.
[2:47:58] I worked on that for well over
[2:47:59] a year. I'm no stranger to
[2:48:03] Okeechobee County. The top
[2:48:03] middle is a county water
[2:48:06] quality project that we're
[2:48:07] working on. That's the
[2:48:07] stormwater treatment area.
[2:48:12] Come pants Top right is a
[2:48:13] construct a weapon. The
[2:48:14] Michael Davison I worked on
[2:48:15] for many years that has water
[2:48:18] quality improvement component.
[2:48:20] Bottom left us. If it's cut
[2:48:22] off wall, I worked on that for
[2:48:23] many years. So the top Todd we
[2:48:27] know the lake really well.
[2:48:28] Bottom right is another county
[2:48:28] water quality project that
[2:48:30] that we're working on for
[2:48:34] Collier County. One includes a
[2:48:36] regional watershed level. All
[2:48:42] what a quality model. We know
[2:48:43] state agencies really well and
[2:48:45] have great relationships, for
[2:48:45] instance, for instance, with
[2:48:46] dot. We have a district-wide
[2:48:48] contract. We've had it for 5
[2:48:50] years. We just recently re
[2:48:52] competed for it was ranked
[2:48:52] number one. They give it to us
[2:48:56] for another 5 years. The top
[2:48:59] middle we serve full as the
[2:49:00] owner's representative for
[2:49:01] Clay County for their bonded
[2:49:04] infrastructure program. Bottom
[2:49:05] left is another county
[2:49:06] project. The water Quality
[2:49:09] project. That was from Martin
[2:49:12] County. That's a water quality
[2:49:12] modeling and improvement
[2:49:17] project agricultural area.
[2:49:18] Adam Wright is the c 44
[2:49:19] reservoir and stormwater
[2:49:21] treatment area. We provided
[2:49:22] the opinion of probable
[2:49:25] construction cost. And the top
[2:49:25] right doesn't look relevant,
[2:49:28] but it is. This is a county
[2:49:34] project. An outside agency,
[2:49:34] the Department of Defense, the
[2:49:38] Navy. Was proposing to bring
[2:49:39] in the f 35 joint strike
[2:49:42] fighter to Monroe County and
[2:49:43] other military operations in
[2:49:46] and around the county and
[2:49:49] state. The Navy dropped this
[2:49:49] enormous environmental impact
[2:49:53] statement on the county. It
[2:49:53] was thousands of pages long
[2:49:56] and it was very complicated
[2:49:56] and the county didn't know
[2:49:58] what to make of it. So they
[2:50:00] hired Michael and I to figure
[2:50:01] out what does it mean for the
[2:50:06] county? So we made sense of
[2:50:07] the We made a trip to
[2:50:08] Washington on behalf of the
[2:50:11] county. And came back reported
[2:50:12] to the board of County
[2:50:14] commissioners on this is what
[2:50:14] the Navy is planning on doing
[2:50:17] in your county. This what what
[2:50:17] is the impacts ending on your
[2:50:20] quality of life? So this is
[2:50:21] the type of services we can
[2:50:26] provide to We have a proven
[2:50:27] track record with these types
[2:50:31] of contracts. We have about
[2:50:32] 180 similar contracts. We one
[2:50:34] the dot for Environmental
[2:50:35] Services. Another one from
[2:50:36] Martin County, war for
[2:50:37] Port St. County, Clay County.
[2:50:41] We do this all the time. We
[2:50:42] know how to be helpful on
[2:50:45] contracts like this. And we
[2:50:45] know how to service an
[2:50:50] extension of her stuff. Thank
[2:50:54] you, John. And we're ready to
[2:50:57] go a couple of things that are
[2:50:58] really important when we take
[2:51:02] on projects like this and, you
[2:51:04] know, once the contract is
[2:51:06] awarded, we're going to work
[2:51:07] on a project specific
[2:51:09] contract, specific quality
[2:51:11] control plan. If you don't do
[2:51:12] qc at Wgi, you don't get to
[2:51:14] work there. That's that's our
[2:51:15] motto. You have to do that.
[2:51:15] You see and make sure the
[2:51:18] things that we give you have
[2:51:19] been checked and rechecked and
[2:51:22] there are accurate and
[2:51:22] appropriate.
[2:51:24] >> We'll set up a kickoff with
[2:51:25] you. And the reason that's
[2:51:27] really important, one of the
[2:51:29] things that we've noticed in
[2:51:31] the last 50 years of being a
[2:51:32] consultant is when things go
[2:51:34] good. It's usually because a
[2:51:36] good communication when things
[2:51:37] go bad it because a lack of
[2:51:40] good communication. So we take
[2:51:42] pride in being good
[2:51:44] communicators, reaching out
[2:51:45] early on being proactive and
[2:51:46] talking to our clients about
[2:51:49] what their expectations are.
[2:51:49] But expect both in terms of
[2:51:52] budget and schedule, but also
[2:51:55] the substance of the of the
[2:51:56] the project. So communication
[2:51:59] is really important. We will
[2:52:00] develop a specific project
[2:52:03] management plan because this
[2:52:04] is, you know, is a lot of
[2:52:05] moving parts and a contract
[2:52:06] like this. You need a lot of
[2:52:06] different disciplines. A lot
[2:52:09] of different people involved
[2:52:11] because it MAY be engineering
[2:52:12] MAY be planning, maybe
[2:52:13] environmental it maybe cover
[2:52:13] relations with a host of
[2:52:15] things going on. And so we
[2:52:18] want to make sure we're
[2:52:19] organized. And Todd has the
[2:52:22] right resources as your
[2:52:23] project manager to be
[2:52:24] effective. And so we have
[2:52:27] project specific plan here for
[2:52:32] this contract. We're ready to
[2:52:34] You know it when it is. John
[2:52:34] mentioned, we have a lot of
[2:52:35] experience. And so we know how
[2:52:38] to do this and I'm going to
[2:52:39] close the way I started again,
[2:52:39] be a little redundant because
[2:52:41] I think it's really important.
[2:52:44] We hand pick. This team and
[2:52:49] the others. To to support you.
[2:52:53] This is the a team. We
[2:52:53] understand how important this
[2:52:54] is to you and how important is
[2:52:57] to the county. So we're going
[2:52:57] to get it right. And that's
[2:53:02] what we do out. We're close by
[2:53:03] we have offices where you need
[2:53:07] us. We have that extensive,
[2:53:08] unprecedented grant and
[2:53:09] funding support capabilities
[2:53:10] along with our Web site design
[2:53:12] capabilities that will help us
[2:53:12] articulate what's going on in
[2:53:14] the county to the eu, citizens
[2:53:17] in your constituents. We have
[2:53:19] that bench that John talked
[2:53:21] about where if you have
[2:53:21] adopting engineering problem,
[2:53:23] Brett's going to bring in a
[2:53:25] team of engineers to help
[2:53:26] solve that problem and provide
[2:53:29] solutions. Same thing on
[2:53:30] environmental our planning. We
[2:53:33] have those those experts. We
[2:53:35] have the local knowledge. We
[2:53:36] worked in this area. Todd John
[2:53:37] talked about projects that
[2:53:38] that we've worked on right in
[2:53:40] this county here. And so we
[2:53:41] know the area we know South
[2:53:45] Florida. We have a lot of
[2:53:47] repeat clients. 72 1% of our
[2:53:52] clients at Wgi. Are repeat
[2:53:53] clients. 75% of our clients
[2:53:54] are public clients. So that's
[2:53:56] important. We do a little
[2:53:56] private land development in
[2:53:57] places, particularly in Texas.
[2:54:01] But 75% requests for public
[2:54:04] line says are repeat clients.
[2:54:07] We have that proven success.
[2:54:10] We're ready to go on your
[2:54:12] behalf help meet your
[2:54:12] objectives for strategic
[2:54:14] objectives. Okeechobee County.
[2:54:15] So that will stop look for any
[2:54:19] questions you have. Thank you.
[2:54:20] Would think that you would
[2:54:22] have a fee structure. I'm not
[2:54:24] asking for dollar amounts, but
[2:54:25] you must have a structure if
[2:54:26] we need engineering or
[2:54:27] something like that, that
[2:54:29] >> that would be. Included in
[2:54:34] the proposal. That would be
[2:54:34] included as part of the
[2:54:35] contract negotiations have
[2:54:36] such a great question. And one
[2:54:37] of the things that we bring is
[2:54:37] because we have the
[2:54:42] >> the bench that we have.
[2:54:44] That's going to be more
[2:54:46] expensive. Then then a
[2:54:47] mid-level engineer. If that
[2:54:48] particular project requires
[2:54:49] for the mid-level engineer,
[2:54:50] that's what we would do with
[2:54:51] Brett Oversight. We're not
[2:54:52] going to charge you for the
[2:54:52] highest paid person. We have a
[2:54:53] lot of.
[2:54:56] >> a lot up professionals to
[2:54:57] choose from. And we try to
[2:55:00] choose the very best ones.
[2:55:01] >> Given the nature of the
[2:55:01] particular task. But yes, we
[2:55:03] have a fee schedule. So I
[2:55:07] would think base rate would be
[2:55:08] for somebody monitoring all
[2:55:10] the all the meetings given
[2:55:11] U.S. Report periodically or
[2:55:11] something like that. That's
[2:55:14] what would be bill looking on.
[2:55:16] >> The schedule probably for
[2:55:17] that. It might be like a lump
[2:55:19] sum to go to 2 meetings a
[2:55:19] month or 5 meetings a month.
[2:55:21] Whatever you need us to do.
[2:55:22] >> And that would just be a
[2:55:25] lump sum. We would. Attend
[2:55:26] those meetings. Take notes,
[2:55:27] report back what we're hearing
[2:55:28] and what we think it means to
[2:55:30] the county.
[2:55:31] >> You really got my interest
[2:55:31] that when you talked about
[2:55:36] grants. I know we've had.
[2:55:38] We've got some good people
[2:55:38] working on grants here, but we
[2:55:41] also in the past, we've had
[2:55:42] the same cup. A lobbyist works
[2:55:45] for working on grants and that
[2:55:47] time they working up for
[2:55:48] percentage. How how would you
[2:55:49] envision being compensated
[2:55:53] prevent work? You know,
[2:55:54] Michael Lang former state rep
[2:55:55] will lead to grant writing
[2:55:58] thing and and hit.
[2:56:00] >> We'll structure composition
[2:56:01] compensation the way that
[2:56:02] makes sense for you. Not most
[2:56:03] grant writers do exactly what
[2:56:04] you're talking about. They get
[2:56:06] they'll take a piece off at if
[2:56:08] they're successful and there's
[2:56:08] other models. You could you
[2:56:10] could you could. We could work
[2:56:11] out. Mike, the good thing
[2:56:12] about Michael is in his
[2:56:13] teammate, Landon, is that
[2:56:15] there. Started working with
[2:56:18] him 30 years ago and they're
[2:56:19] very efficient. They they can
[2:56:21] get there pretty quick.
[2:56:23] Others. Let's spend a lot more
[2:56:24] time getting to the same
[2:56:26] point. So I think that helps
[2:56:27] with the rates and the
[2:56:27] compensation that they would
[2:56:31] have. Okay.
[2:56:32] >> The sta that's proposed to
[2:56:37] be located. Okeechobee been
[2:56:38] very controversial and this
[2:56:41] commission taking a stand it
[2:56:42] is not in our best interest to
[2:56:44] be located in that particular
[2:56:45] place. Is there any conflict
[2:56:47] from anybody in organization?
[2:56:52] To keep you from? Helping our
[2:56:55] caravan or desires. I don't
[2:56:56] think we have any conflicts.
[2:56:57] We do work for the South
[2:56:58] Florida Water Management
[2:56:59] District. Do work for the
[2:57:00] Corps Engineers. You know,
[2:57:03] that's not a secret.
[2:57:04] >> But I you know, I don't
[2:57:05] think it was a conflict there.
[2:57:07] What we're going to do is give
[2:57:08] you whatever the situation is,
[2:57:09] whatever the project, as give
[2:57:11] you the best technical advice
[2:57:13] that we believe based what we
[2:57:14] think's the best interest of
[2:57:19] the county. We have 7 issues
[2:57:20] that we think that they were
[2:57:21] not being able to comply with.
[2:57:25] And so.
[2:57:26] >> That's what we would be
[2:57:26] looking some assistance. Some
[2:57:35] knows. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes, MR.
[2:57:37] Davis just a couple of things.
[2:57:40] It's been like 5, years ago
[2:57:41] when we started talking about
[2:57:42] this 7, a
[2:57:44] >> water policies are. Of some
[2:57:48] sort and there were a lot of
[2:57:49] meetings going on and we
[2:57:52] didn't have. The seat at the
[2:57:54] table. And if we did. And
[2:57:56] probably the way over, you
[2:57:57] know, way out of our
[2:57:59] wheelhouse to even know what
[2:58:01] to fight for. We didn't have
[2:58:02] anybody fighting for
[2:58:05] Okeechobee. And then you
[2:58:08] Martin County. Congressman was
[2:58:14] a day. Way bigger megaphone
[2:58:17] than we You know, we're
[2:58:18] nobody's listening. A little
[2:58:20] Okeechobee, him. You know, the
[2:58:21] fact that a lot of things that
[2:58:24] they want was just totally
[2:58:25] decimate. You know, our
[2:58:29] economy and are way of life.
[2:58:35] So. Thought that we needed
[2:58:36] somebody to to represent us
[2:58:38] and to go these meetings. Hear
[2:58:42] what they had to say. And then
[2:58:43] come back and tell us in
[2:58:44] layman's terms, this is what
[2:58:46] they're wanting to to to you.
[2:58:47] This is what I think we should
[2:58:51] do to combat it. And we're
[2:58:51] going to fight for Okeechobee.
[2:58:54] And that's what and that's our
[2:58:55] job up here where we represent
[2:58:57] the citizens of Okeechobee
[2:58:58] County. They look to us to do
[2:58:59] make the best decisions and to
[2:59:02] put up the best fights we can.
[2:59:09] 4 are 40,000 residents. Calm
[2:59:10] little duck in a big puddle
[2:59:10] when it comes all the other
[2:59:11] counties that we're having to
[2:59:14] to do battle with. On the
[2:59:16] grants. And this is a maybe a
[2:59:18] circular question. But are
[2:59:19] there grants that will help us
[2:59:21] pay for you? That's another
[2:59:25] thing I'd like to. Do wonder
[2:59:27] if it is there something that
[2:59:28] that will help small rural
[2:59:31] counties. You know, to hire
[2:59:32] people in there, you know, to
[2:59:40] be in their corner. But mostly
[2:59:42] that's what that's what I
[2:59:44] envisioned when we started
[2:59:45] talking about Indian this
[2:59:47] around, what we need is
[2:59:49] somebody that can go to these
[2:59:49] meetings, know what these
[2:59:53] people are saying. Know what
[2:59:54] you're talking about. Know if
[2:59:55] it's bad for us know if it's
[2:59:58] good for And then to also be
[2:59:59] are your quarterback that we
[2:59:59] put in when we need somebody
[3:00:02] to fight for us? We agree. I
[3:00:06] think there. It's probably I
[3:00:07] don't I'm not aware of grants
[3:00:08] that would pay for a general
[3:00:10] contract like this one. But
[3:00:11] what I am aware of this, that
[3:00:12] there are grants that would
[3:00:13] pay for
[3:00:14] >> specific items that might
[3:00:15] flow out of this. If there was
[3:00:18] a project, for example, there
[3:00:19] is opportunities it from times
[3:00:21] depend on the granting agency
[3:00:23] to get a grant for the
[3:00:23] planning and some of the
[3:00:24] design work for a particular
[3:00:26] project. And so that's what I
[3:00:27] think our team would be
[3:00:30] looking at is if we say, you
[3:00:31] know, there's a project here
[3:00:33] that we think you need to
[3:00:33] consider as part of your
[3:00:35] capital improvement program or
[3:00:37] whatever. A way to pay for it.
[3:00:38] And then that there MAY be an
[3:00:39] opportunity to pay for some of
[3:00:42] the g wgi services associate
[3:00:43] is that. Go back to your first
[3:00:49] question about. Understand
[3:00:50] fully your constituents.
[3:00:55] Okeechobee County. 18,500
[3:00:56] square miles in secrets to
[3:00:57] South Florida will become the
[3:00:57] South Florida ecosystem.
[3:01:01] You're at the heart. And we
[3:01:03] think, you know, helping you
[3:01:06] get things right. And making
[3:01:08] sure they are right for the
[3:01:10] county is right for the other
[3:01:12] parts of this ecosystem as
[3:01:13] well. So that's one of the
[3:01:14] reasons this is actually
[3:01:17] exciting for us because, you
[3:01:17] know, I've been a professional
[3:01:18] planner and environmental
[3:01:20] scientists for. Don't laugh
[3:01:24] almost 40 years now. And there
[3:01:28] have been very few situations
[3:01:29] where you can't find a way to
[3:01:31] reconcile the tension between
[3:01:33] opposing forces. Not always,
[3:01:36] but in many cases, you can.
[3:01:38] And I think it's really
[3:01:38] important that Okeechobee
[3:01:41] County be heard. You're in the
[3:01:42] center of this year, obviously
[3:01:43] right here at the liquid heart
[3:01:47] of the ecosystem. And so you
[3:01:49] think deserve an advocate. You
[3:01:49] deserve someone representing
[3:01:50] you and bring you back to good
[3:01:54] information. As you said. And
[3:01:55] helping you, you know, go
[3:01:56] through the process of making
[3:01:57] decisions, policy decisions
[3:02:02] about that. No one else.
[3:02:04] Commissioner Karla.
[3:02:07] Commissioner Summer.
[3:02:08] >> Red pretty well to that. I
[3:02:13] was going to ask so
[3:02:14] >> We can't let the car set
[3:02:18] alight. I'm sorry. I didn't
[3:02:19] hear that is a question said
[3:02:20] weekend that the current low
[3:02:27] Fat Lite.
[3:02:27] >> Commissioner, registered
[3:02:28] respond to your question
[3:02:30] regarding the congressman. I
[3:02:32] don't think there's anybody on
[3:02:33] any team, our experience with
[3:02:34] providing evidence-based
[3:02:37] rebuttal to the congressman,
[3:02:38] then me and being on your
[3:02:39] team. I would certainly be
[3:02:42] able to provide that voice. I
[3:02:43] know you're issues. I spent 8
[3:02:45] years representing an
[3:02:47] agricultural area of Palm
[3:02:50] Beach County and partnered a
[3:02:50] lot with Okeechobee County and
[3:02:51] those arguments pushing back
[3:02:53] on some of the congressman's
[3:02:55] rhetoric. So I look forward to
[3:02:57] being a part of the team
[3:02:59] representing you and providing
[3:03:00] that voiced here and having a
[3:03:00] seat at those tables where you
[3:03:03] need to be represented. Thank
[3:03:03] you and that that's
[3:03:06] comforting. And I do.
[3:03:06] >> Relish the thought of us
[3:03:09] being in a combative.
[3:03:11] Situation with United States
[3:03:11] Congressman, it just seems to
[3:03:16] be happening and the people
[3:03:17] there have have different
[3:03:21] wants needs and desires. The
[3:03:23] people here, our needs for a
[3:03:27] shower lake. But they feel is
[3:03:30] their need for e deeper lake
[3:03:32] which more like water storage,
[3:03:35] which the way he's alive. It's
[3:03:38] like a life. Be It's going
[3:03:42] been flown Growing contract.
[3:03:44] And I mean, that's that's the
[3:03:45] way that's where the good Lord
[3:03:48] made it We try leave it that
[3:03:52] way best we can. And, you
[3:03:53] know, with with our knees to
[3:03:54] try to keep Gulf from the 1928
[3:03:57] floods. That took a long life
[3:04:03] properties. So I hate to be in
[3:04:04] that position. I would love
[3:04:06] for us all to be able to sit
[3:04:07] down in the room and try to
[3:04:08] work something out everybody
[3:04:10] can live with. But, you know,
[3:04:12] he's got a pretty big
[3:04:12] megaphone. Comes for larger
[3:04:14] county than we can. We are
[3:04:17] more. Sure are agricultural
[3:04:22] based. But a lot of stuff on
[3:04:24] own. The way we look to
[3:04:25] tourism for our county for
[3:04:28] people that fish. And come
[3:04:30] here for that reason. So. You
[3:04:34] I don't mind given a little as
[3:04:34] long as everybody else might
[3:04:37] give it a little. So that's
[3:04:38] just can go on. The big things
[3:04:41] is we seem to be a. Combative
[3:04:44] relationship with our. Urban
[3:04:48] cousins on the coast. So
[3:04:50] >> respect the congressman.
[3:04:51] Respect his service, but there
[3:04:52] are 2 sides to every story. So
[3:04:53] making sure your side is
[3:04:53] shared would be a priority for
[3:04:56] us.
[3:04:57] >> Thank you very much.
[3:04:58] Commissioner Bonin. Just add a
[3:04:59] little bit to Melissa's
[3:04:59] coming. I spent 15 years in
[3:05:02] Washington and so the point is
[3:05:03] that we're not shy or timid
[3:05:06] with members of Congress were
[3:05:06] respectful. I probably testify
[3:05:08] to well over 100 times before
[3:05:10] the United States Congress and
[3:05:11] they don't call you up there
[3:05:12] to tell you're doing a good
[3:05:14] job. By the way, you they
[3:05:15] they're there to call you up
[3:05:16] there generally to be you up.
[3:05:17] So you got to have tough skin.
[3:05:17] You've got to be able to
[3:05:19] communicate with them and
[3:05:20] stand your ground when you
[3:05:21] need to stand your ground. So
[3:05:22] I think our team with Melissa
[3:05:23] and others going to be really
[3:05:25] good at that on your behalf.
[3:05:27] Well, if you are here this
[3:05:27] morning, you can see that
[3:05:28] we've developed tough scan.
[3:05:30] Yes. So the you had a
[3:05:34] question. Was also has
[3:05:36] questions that fully
[3:05:38] understanding the. And I want
[3:05:40] to say to Commissioner
[3:05:41] McKinley, but can't say he's
[3:05:41] always always on. The
[3:05:43] PRESIDENT Always on the took
[3:05:43] my time.
[3:05:44] >> But listen, I have listened
[3:05:49] to. Congressman Rat mass way
[3:05:51] too much. And contrary to what
[3:05:54] commissioner, good grades
[3:05:55] articulated. I don't mind
[3:05:59] confrontation. I love it. In
[3:05:59] fact, I breathe it to be quite
[3:06:04] frankly. This guy doesn't he
[3:06:06] hasn't helped us one bit. He
[3:06:06] hasn't helped really hasn't
[3:06:10] helped his own people. One bit
[3:06:10] as we've already, particularly
[3:06:11] one of the things that bring
[3:06:15] to the table, it's not only
[3:06:16] just dealing with him and some
[3:06:18] of the issues over on the c
[3:06:20] 44, there are areas, but
[3:06:21] they're starting to work on
[3:06:23] Shingle Creek. Now. And
[3:06:25] Shingle Creek is extremely
[3:06:29] important to us down here now,
[3:06:30] the commissioners probably
[3:06:32] haven't followed that because
[3:06:33] they don't have the time. I
[3:06:33] have the time to follow this
[3:06:34] stuff. So Shingle Creek is
[3:06:37] really important. Low cars,
[3:06:40] very important. We just saw
[3:06:41] that and that Bill Lowes sent
[3:06:43] over to the houses yesterday
[3:06:45] that give the authorization
[3:06:46] for South Florida water
[3:06:46] Management Start negotiating.
[3:06:50] Purchasing property. So that
[3:06:50] is a very important piece.
[3:06:53] Porous relative to even in
[3:06:56] conjunction with the sta. So I
[3:06:56] think you bring the bill
[3:06:59] wealth and knowledge to help
[3:07:00] us. But one thing never forget
[3:07:02] it as I got people to the west
[3:07:06] on the Caloosahatchee. But
[3:07:07] also we feed water to all of
[3:07:08] the folks on Broward,
[3:07:11] Miami-Dade, Monroe County, and
[3:07:12] expect us to very focused in
[3:07:16] terms of making sure orders
[3:07:17] clear, clean that they can be
[3:07:20] able to use of so I'm
[3:07:20] comfortable with Melissa Work
[3:07:24] with are a number of years and
[3:07:24] I'm comfortable with your your
[3:07:26] organization order to help
[3:07:28] manage some of the issues that
[3:07:31] not only exist today. But as I
[3:07:32] said with a Shingle creek
[3:07:35] process coming online, those
[3:07:37] particular issues either hurt
[3:07:37] or help us. And we need to
[3:07:38] that type of support. Thank
[3:07:41] you. And I didn't say good at
[3:07:49] it said didn't relish Still we
[3:07:50] have a just I'm just making
[3:07:51] light of a heavy situation.
[3:07:56] Anyone else? Any further
[3:07:58] comments. Thank you for your
[3:07:58] time. We hope to have the
[3:07:59] opportunity to work with you
[3:08:01] and support you. Thank you so
[3:08:07] much. Thank Colum columns. I'm
[3:08:08] sorry. I didn't have a
[3:08:14] barbecue for you this time.
[3:08:15] >> And surf. You're ready for
[3:08:17] the next group. Jessica, you
[3:08:21] want to? They're here. You
[3:08:23] want to check. Maybe thank
[3:08:38] you.
[3:08:38] I knew that. When I was
[3:08:45] in Palm Beach County. Look
[3:08:47] more. It's it in the hole.
[3:08:52] Pressure. Water, something
[3:09:04] that. That it was to some
[3:09:14] money in there. Introduce
[3:09:20] sons. Well, it's good. Then
[3:09:20] introduce yourself. That could
[3:09:25] have been your question. I
[3:09:28] don't want it to here and I
[3:09:35] want supposed to
[3:09:37] >> Good afternoon and welcome.
[3:09:39] I you want to pull that
[3:09:40] microphone down to you,
[3:09:45] please. Short. Can you see me
[3:09:47] over this Do you have to have
[3:09:49] a hand? Everything force?
[3:09:53] We've Okay. Just the fact that
[3:09:53] I think this was emailed out
[3:09:59] to the group. 2, we emailed it
[3:10:02] to forget who it Okay to
[3:10:08] Jessica. Get that off. What
[3:10:09] will get a copy out all Thank
[3:10:18] you. Help is expected to the I
[3:10:23] you meant. Back the city
[3:10:23] closer. You don't have a
[3:10:26] handheld want to Yes. Can feel
[3:10:26] more comfortable with short?
[3:10:29] Otherwise you get to Crews
[3:10:34] prepared for It's better. Can
[3:10:41] you hear for clicker? Same
[3:10:45] this morning. Think didn't
[3:10:49] expect such a big My name's
[3:10:50] government can bring the q and
[3:10:51] with a royal consulting
[3:10:53] services. Let me start off
[3:10:55] first by saying thank you for
[3:10:57] having I'd like to introduce
[3:10:58] our team.
[3:11:00] >> I think we have a really
[3:11:01] impressive team. We put
[3:11:02] together for Okeechobee to
[3:11:04] meet your water, quality and
[3:11:04] environmental services. The
[3:11:08] head of the team is Royal
[3:11:08] Consulting services. We've
[3:11:09] been working in Okeechobee and
[3:11:10] have a local office. We've
[3:11:13] been here for 20 plus years.
[3:11:14] We've done lot of work with
[3:11:17] the agriculture community. So
[3:11:18] we're very proud the work
[3:11:20] we've done here in Okeechobee.
[3:11:22] Rounding out our team. We have
[3:11:23] Sullivan, Water engineering
[3:11:26] technology that headed by
[3:11:27] Doctor Boucher. He is the
[3:11:28] developer of the watershed
[3:11:29] assessment model. That's the
[3:11:32] model that's used by d p for
[3:11:35] the Tmdl and the the map
[3:11:38] target and rounding out our
[3:11:40] team is Barnes for London
[3:11:41] Associates with we have will
[3:11:43] Thomas here as well as bill
[3:11:44] done and they're experts and
[3:11:49] out of advocacy. It also and
[3:11:51] helping you find for those
[3:11:53] capital improvement projects
[3:11:54] and has a lot good experience
[3:11:55] with our septic to sewer Ty
[3:12:03] projects as well. Our team
[3:12:04] understands the goal of
[3:12:06] Okeechobee County. You know,
[3:12:07] where understand that your
[3:12:08] goal is to protect water
[3:12:11] quality while enabling the
[3:12:13] sustainable growth, preserving
[3:12:14] agriculture in strengthening
[3:12:16] your community, resilience. We
[3:12:17] understand that the heart of
[3:12:20] Okeechobee is agriculture and
[3:12:21] we're team that's full of
[3:12:25] agriculture advocates. We
[3:12:26] understand the challenges that
[3:12:28] are faced by Okeechobee, you
[3:12:29] know, from the increase in
[3:12:30] nutrient load from from the
[3:12:34] North. To the challenges of
[3:12:38] implementing map to regulating
[3:12:39] and working with the conflict
[3:12:41] interest around Lake
[3:12:43] Okeechobee the economic growth
[3:12:47] that's happening and how to
[3:12:50] get funds and design and
[3:12:50] install those cap and
[3:12:51] improvements to meet the
[3:12:52] growing demands of your
[3:12:57] community. Our team is
[3:12:58] committed to meeting the needs
[3:13:01] of the county. We understand
[3:13:03] and are versed dealing with
[3:13:05] regulators and advocating for
[3:13:07] you as a community, including
[3:13:14] your rule partners. We have
[3:13:16] know how to engage with the p
[3:13:17] with the water management
[3:13:18] districts to navigate those
[3:13:19] water quality policies secure
[3:13:23] funding. We're experts at data
[3:13:25] analysis and technical
[3:13:26] support, you know, with Dr
[3:13:28] Boucher, the creator of the
[3:13:32] Watershed Assessment model and
[3:13:34] one that guided the tmdl and b
[3:13:37] map criterion targets on our
[3:13:38] team. We have the tools
[3:13:41] necessary to effectively and
[3:13:41] efficiently evaluate what
[3:13:46] works best for the county. We
[3:13:50] have a great that proven their
[3:13:53] ability to rattle various
[3:13:55] stakeholders together and
[3:13:55] provide that public engagement
[3:13:57] strategies and by and to make
[3:13:58] these projects come to
[3:14:01] fruition. And we have a lot of
[3:14:03] experience and getting helping
[3:14:07] you get funding designing
[3:14:08] installing those big
[3:14:13] infrastructure type projects.
[3:14:14] Our team has proven results in
[3:14:18] the Lake Okeechobee watershed.
[3:14:19] We have over 20 years of
[3:14:21] experience working here
[3:14:22] locally. We have technical
[3:14:23] success stories that we've
[3:14:26] done here. From the watershed
[3:14:29] assessment model that's been
[3:14:30] developed. We've helped
[3:14:32] improve water quality in the
[3:14:37] past 20 years from your ag
[3:14:38] producers through nutrient
[3:14:39] management design of still
[3:14:42] water control type systems,
[3:14:44] retention systems helping your
[3:14:46] ag community do sustainable
[3:14:47] agriculture practices. We've
[3:14:47] been doing that since 2005
[3:14:51] right here locally. We've
[3:14:52] implemented bmps on over 105
[3:14:56] forms in Okeechobee. These
[3:14:56] are, you know, from small
[3:15:01] farms to dairy farms. We've
[3:15:04] spending 32,515 acres as Iran
[3:15:04] just grow crops and dairy
[3:15:08] farms. We've actually worked
[3:15:09] on over half a million acres
[3:15:10] of agricultural land here
[3:15:12] locally. You know, we count
[3:15:15] Larson, dairy MacArthur Farm
[3:15:15] smoking are, you know, we're
[3:15:17] partners with them. We want
[3:15:20] them to be successful. We help
[3:15:23] guide them through the
[3:15:23] environmental, you know,
[3:15:24] regulatory hurdles and help
[3:15:25] them find funding to be
[3:15:26] successful. And we've been
[3:15:30] even able to do that just with
[3:15:30] fx funding alone, we've been
[3:15:31] able to acquire over
[3:15:34] 17 billion dollars in funds as
[3:15:35] of today. We have another
[3:15:36] 2 million hopefully coming
[3:15:39] soon to help the our producers
[3:15:41] meet those environmental
[3:15:42] challenges. So we bring the
[3:15:45] unmatched depth and science
[3:15:46] funding and stakeholder trust
[3:15:48] to the agile Agra Okeechobee,
[3:15:53] agriculture community. We have
[3:15:54] experience in identifying if
[3:15:55] effective abatements
[3:15:55] strategies for the Lake
[3:15:57] Okeechobee. The map using that
[3:16:00] water should assess of model
[3:16:01] using we can identify the most
[3:16:03] effective solutions. And the
[3:16:07] Lake Okeechobee watershed
[3:16:09] evaluating the mp strategies
[3:16:10] by comparing nutrient loads
[3:16:10] under existing and historic
[3:16:16] conditions. We've supported
[3:16:17] state agencies, dp Water
[3:16:18] Management District f dax and
[3:16:20] we finding those b map
[3:16:23] strategies and we've created a
[3:16:24] tool to evaluate mp's in
[3:16:26] projects that offer the
[3:16:28] highest fastest and most cost
[3:16:28] effective water quality
[3:16:29] improvement in the Lake.
[3:16:33] Okeechobee watershed. Our
[3:16:33] modeling and sites directly
[3:16:37] inform agency policies and
[3:16:37] improved sources targeting
[3:16:42] across the watershed. We
[3:16:43] understand the upstream
[3:16:46] influence. We've modeled it.
[3:16:47] We help come up with a tmdl
[3:16:49] the b maps for the Upper
[3:16:53] Kissimmee watershed. We've win
[3:16:56] in our development. We noticed
[3:16:57] that there was a key data
[3:16:59] gaps. So we implemented
[3:16:59] moderate stratum on attorney
[3:17:00] strategies to improve the
[3:17:03] accuracy and the coverage
[3:17:05] modeled and rank the app's by
[3:17:05] cost effectiveness and
[3:17:08] nutrient reduction potential.
[3:17:10] We provided the decision
[3:17:11] makers with the scenario based
[3:17:11] outcomes to guide
[3:17:17] implementation. This is an
[3:17:20] example of actual bmp. That
[3:17:21] was that's that's a success
[3:17:24] story right here locally. In
[3:17:25] Okeechobee. This is a storm
[3:17:28] water. Reuse alternative water
[3:17:30] supply project that put
[3:17:32] together. It's been designed,
[3:17:32] constructed, permitted. We
[3:17:36] were able to get funding from
[3:17:36] various agencies to our total
[3:17:42] around 1.5 million. This is an
[3:17:43] example of how can work for
[3:17:43] you and how you can have
[3:17:46] projects that are one win. You
[3:17:49] know, this is solution that
[3:17:50] shows, you know, kuz it with
[3:17:50] storm water, retention
[3:17:51] combining that with the need
[3:17:54] for irrigation. And reuse of
[3:17:56] irrigation. And it resulted in
[3:17:56] a nutrient reduction of 92%
[3:18:00] from the farm decrease water
[3:18:04] use by 29%. Solutions like the
[3:18:05] shows how water quality
[3:18:07] improvements can also solve
[3:18:15] supply and cost challenges.
[3:18:16] With their ever growing
[3:18:17] population. You know, we also
[3:18:20] looking toward septic to sewer
[3:18:22] conversions arc from team has
[3:18:23] extensive experience
[3:18:24] supporting septic to sewer
[3:18:26] conversions across the world
[3:18:28] and environmentally sensitive
[3:18:29] areas. We've developed grant
[3:18:30] applications secured funding
[3:18:32] for septic to sewer and
[3:18:34] wastewater infrastructure
[3:18:36] projects. We've assisted local
[3:18:37] governments and communities
[3:18:38] with stakeholder engagement,
[3:18:39] permitting and capital
[3:18:43] planning. We've constructed
[3:18:45] over 20 of these projects for
[3:18:45] a total cost of over
[3:18:49] 101 million dollars. We've
[3:18:53] moved 3,775 6 6 septic systems
[3:18:56] and installed. 38.6 miles
[3:18:57] gravity. Sewers. We've been
[3:18:58] able to acquire funding
[3:18:58] through water Management
[3:19:03] District d p swag and the Cdbg
[3:19:04] grant. We've been there with
[3:19:06] our clients along the way from
[3:19:09] preliminary design through
[3:19:10] permitting through stakeholder
[3:19:12] engagement through
[3:19:14] construction, including
[3:19:15] helping them find the funds to
[3:19:16] make and bring these projects
[3:19:19] to fruition. These projects
[3:19:20] are located in be met priority
[3:19:23] areas that have a goal once
[3:19:24] complete, reducing load
[3:19:29] reduction by 80%. We are
[3:19:30] specialists in community
[3:19:33] outreach and education. We
[3:19:35] promote awareness and public
[3:19:35] support. We've hosted
[3:19:37] workshops and public meetings.
[3:19:38] We incorporate public
[3:19:41] feedback. We listen. Not just
[3:19:44] talk to our stakeholders. We
[3:19:45] collaborate with other
[3:19:46] organizations to expand
[3:19:49] outreach. We create content
[3:19:51] and media to increase
[3:19:53] transparency, engagement. We
[3:19:53] foster community-based
[3:19:56] solutions and initiatives.
[3:19:58] Some examples of these are
[3:19:59] appear presented for the Saint
[3:20:00] Johns River, Water Supply plan
[3:20:04] for the East Central Florida,
[3:20:04] 2020 planning effort. We
[3:20:08] hosted over 12 public
[3:20:09] meetings, its stakeholders
[3:20:10] included Saint Johns River
[3:20:12] Water Management District,
[3:20:12] Southwest Florida Water
[3:20:13] Management District, South
[3:20:15] Florida Water Management
[3:20:17] District. The general public
[3:20:18] environmental groups, elected
[3:20:19] officials, 20 water, utilities
[3:20:22] and other state agencies. And
[3:20:23] we were able to help wrangle
[3:20:23] all those different people in
[3:20:28] different interest together to
[3:20:29] create a project finally got
[3:20:29] by and were able to move
[3:20:34] forward with. For the Black
[3:20:34] Water Resource Development
[3:20:39] Project. We had the added
[3:20:40] complication of having state
[3:20:44] legislators, dp epa amongst
[3:20:44] local utilities and
[3:20:45] governments involved in
[3:20:47] stakeholders in this project.
[3:20:50] And again, through
[3:20:51] collaboration, open
[3:20:52] communication and outreach. We
[3:20:53] were able to come to a
[3:20:58] consensus and move forward.
[3:20:59] Our team provides local
[3:21:01] strength and technical depth.
[3:21:03] What I have here are the
[3:21:06] techno leads of the project.
[3:21:08] So leading the team is Royal
[3:21:10] Consulting Services. We are a
[3:21:10] local engineering firm. We
[3:21:11] have been here for 20 plus
[3:21:15] years. We have approved proven
[3:21:16] success in securing funds with
[3:21:19] help of having acquired over.
[3:21:19] 35 million funds, you know,
[3:21:22] for in Okeechobee. And we
[3:21:23] deeply understand the
[3:21:23] agriculture need to your
[3:21:25] community. We have salon,
[3:21:27] water, engineering technology
[3:21:28] who are specialists in the
[3:21:32] watershed assessment. Modeling
[3:21:32] the developers of the
[3:21:33] Okeechobee watershed
[3:21:36] assessment Modeler. And Barnes
[3:21:39] for London Associates Bfa who
[3:21:39] have unparalleled insight into
[3:21:40] water policy agency,
[3:21:44] coordination. With with
[3:21:44] strength and capital planning
[3:21:47] and public engagement. So our
[3:21:48] team is had by Brian Moore
[3:21:49] with real consulting services
[3:21:51] as a client officer. Again,
[3:21:53] he's a public. He's a local
[3:21:54] business owner and represent
[3:21:56] the agricultural interests and
[3:21:59] a strong advocate. He's an
[3:22:01] expert water resources and
[3:22:02] stakeholder coordination. We
[3:22:03] have Dr Boucher, the
[3:22:06] developer, also our team. He's
[3:22:08] a strong ag advocate again,
[3:22:10] leading agriculture hydrology
[3:22:12] for decades and has worked to
[3:22:12] implement science-based and be
[3:22:14] in peace throughout the
[3:22:18] region. We have doctor and
[3:22:19] Shortell as advocacy and
[3:22:20] policy. She's a former
[3:22:21] director of to water
[3:22:21] management districts, the
[3:22:22] Saint Johns River Water
[3:22:23] Management District and the
[3:22:25] Suwannee River Water
[3:22:26] Management District as well as
[3:22:29] the director of Office of
[3:22:30] Water Policy past director
[3:22:30] water policy for dp. She has
[3:22:34] unmatched in sight into what
[3:22:36] water policy and agency
[3:22:37] coordination takes. And we
[3:22:38] have will Thomas are planning
[3:22:39] lead, who has extensive
[3:22:41] experience in that capital
[3:22:43] planning and getting helping
[3:22:43] to get the funds to make these
[3:22:46] capital improvements. Come to
[3:22:49] light. So we have a strong
[3:22:51] track record and where excited
[3:22:55] to work Okeechobee County. So
[3:22:57] why the rcs that we have local
[3:23:00] presence with the agriculture
[3:23:01] routes trusting relationship
[3:23:02] with producers agency a stack
[3:23:05] and stakeholders. We provide
[3:23:07] prove a practical solutions
[3:23:08] having you know, helped raise
[3:23:09] over 34 million dollars in
[3:23:10] funding for bnp septic to
[3:23:12] sewer nag friendly water
[3:23:13] infrastructure, technical
[3:23:15] strength and strategic tools.
[3:23:18] We have decades of experience
[3:23:18] in modeling designed and
[3:23:19] implemented useful tools like
[3:23:21] the watershed assessment Model
[3:23:23] collaborative and regulatory
[3:23:25] savvy. We have a strong track
[3:23:25] record of building consensus
[3:23:27] across agencies and
[3:23:29] communities to move these
[3:23:29] projects forward. And we're
[3:23:32] committed your goals. You
[3:23:33] know, we want to be there. We
[3:23:34] want to help Okeechobee move
[3:23:38] to the future while protecting
[3:23:39] that rural identity that makes
[3:23:42] a place where everybody wants
[3:23:42] to live line while taking into
[3:23:45] account the water quality
[3:23:46] challenges and helping you
[3:23:49] build the economic resilience.
[3:23:54] Thank you. MR. CHAIRMAN. Yes,
[3:24:01] sir. 2%. Was him. Yes,
[3:24:04] Kimberly are killing them
[3:24:05] either. Okay, you'd like to be
[3:24:08] called Kevin. My dad always
[3:24:09] told me the most important
[3:24:10] word in English language is
[3:24:16] somebodys So.
[3:24:17] >> I hear a lot of references
[3:24:19] to ag, I want a guy, you know,
[3:24:22] that's where my my personal
[3:24:23] heart is. But as a
[3:24:27] commissioner. We're really
[3:24:28] going to get hurt in our
[3:24:29] tourism industry. That's most
[3:24:32] ranchers and farmers. They
[3:24:34] want nothing from their county
[3:24:34] government. Other leave of
[3:24:37] They don't. They don't rarely
[3:24:38] does a farmer or rancher ever
[3:24:41] called us to ask for so some
[3:24:42] tough assistance from the
[3:24:46] county. But we're having to
[3:24:50] really focus on. The health of
[3:24:54] the wake one of 4 hour.
[3:24:55] Tourism industry for, you
[3:24:57] know, the health for the
[3:25:00] fisherman for the fishing
[3:25:01] tournaments. We also are
[3:25:05] trying to our best job we can
[3:25:07] commissioners of transferring
[3:25:09] people from septic tanks to
[3:25:10] sewer system, especially
[3:25:13] closer to the lake that's a
[3:25:18] big thing. But as
[3:25:19] commissioners watching out for
[3:25:22] our whole county I think our
[3:25:23] tourism industry is the one
[3:25:27] that it's going to need our
[3:25:28] help more. Then the farmers
[3:25:29] and ranchers in the dairy that
[3:25:32] like I said, I think they they
[3:25:33] take care of pretty much
[3:25:34] everything that they need to
[3:25:38] honor all they go way over our
[3:25:39] heads to, you know, the state
[3:25:40] and federal government. But
[3:25:43] we're trying to look out all
[3:25:44] the things we're trying look
[3:25:45] out for is our economy, our
[3:25:48] local economy, which is
[3:25:53] heavily based on. You know,
[3:25:54] best fish and speckled perch
[3:25:58] and things like that. So I
[3:26:01] think and I've said before. We
[3:26:02] need somebody to have a seat
[3:26:02] at the table. Are all these
[3:26:04] other counties are meeting on
[3:26:06] water policy because we
[3:26:08] haven't had anybody. I think
[3:26:10] we we get left behind. We get
[3:26:11] missed out or we just don't
[3:26:14] even get considered for some
[3:26:16] of these things that the
[3:26:17] coastal counties are trying to
[3:26:21] get done for their economy. So
[3:26:22] the weight means different
[3:26:25] things to different areas.
[3:26:29] They want. Deeper way for
[3:26:32] water storage. We want shower
[3:26:34] late for the health of the of
[3:26:38] the underwater. Vegetation,
[3:26:41] which in turn is a. The health
[3:26:44] of our fishing industry. So
[3:26:47] that's more were I 10, 2 focus
[3:26:50] on this soon. Not as much the
[3:26:52] dairy man and the ranchers and
[3:26:56] and the Water Bowl. Farmers.
[3:26:58] Rest of our economy and
[3:27:04] Okeechobee. If I can just say
[3:27:04] so.
[3:27:07] >> When you look at map and
[3:27:09] the modeling that's been done
[3:27:13] and that the mp's the cost to
[3:27:17] do a bmp plan, for instance,
[3:27:18] is almost order of magnitude
[3:27:19] less expensive for the same
[3:27:20] amount of nutrients as it
[3:27:25] would be in urban environment.
[3:27:27] I think, you know, that road
[3:27:29] feeling is definitely
[3:27:29] incorporated into the heart of
[3:27:33] Okeechobee, you know, and
[3:27:35] farmers are the best stewards
[3:27:37] of the land, right? And and
[3:27:39] the health of their land. You
[3:27:40] know, also it's direct related
[3:27:42] to the health of the lake, but
[3:27:46] there an ability there, too,
[3:27:49] implement some of these larger
[3:27:53] are rural and the mp's to have
[3:28:02] big effect at a lower cost. I.
[3:28:03] >> I think ultimately, you
[3:28:04] know, for health of the lake,
[3:28:04] it's the nutrient load that's
[3:28:08] going into lake. So. How do
[3:28:09] you reduce the nutrient load,
[3:28:10] whether it's from egg or
[3:28:16] whatever land use and improve
[3:28:16] the fisheries everything's
[3:28:20] obviously tied to the economy
[3:28:22] and the benefit of of our team
[3:28:23] is we've got Doctor Boucher
[3:28:24] and his model, the Wind
[3:28:25] Assessment model, which has
[3:28:28] been used by the Water
[3:28:29] Management District ndp to do
[3:28:31] that. The mp analysis and the
[3:28:35] the beauty of the modeling
[3:28:39] tool is you can infinite. What
[3:28:41] if scenarios, you can put bmp
[3:28:41] in any place in the watershed
[3:28:43] to serve function.
[3:28:48] >> Runoff from Orlando
[3:28:51] stormwater treatment area for
[3:28:52] some other watershed. But
[3:28:56] we've got the ability run
[3:28:56] through.
[3:28:58] >> essentially any scenario
[3:29:00] that seems logical to us to
[3:29:02] come up with or your staff MAY
[3:29:02] come up with where you cells
[3:29:03] MAY come up with
[3:29:06] >> I really want to see you do
[3:29:07] this or evaluate We've got the
[3:29:09] ability then to look at it
[3:29:10] from the physics standpoint of
[3:29:13] the water flows, the nutrient
[3:29:14] removal capability of the
[3:29:15] various the mp's in the month
[3:29:18] and the model as well as do a
[3:29:20] cost analysis to identify
[3:29:21] cost-effective strategy. So I
[3:29:23] think we've got this tool box
[3:29:27] that can answer really is set
[3:29:30] up to answer any question you
[3:29:30] ask about what can we do in
[3:29:35] various parts of our realm to
[3:29:37] address water, quality issues.
[3:29:38] So mean that we've got the
[3:29:38] tools to do it. And it's a
[3:29:41] matter of just sentencing the
[3:29:42] right questions. You know, the
[3:29:45] dep is done analysis and
[3:29:47] prioritize basins throughout
[3:29:49] the watershed. The makes any
[3:29:52] watershed. That's one place to
[3:29:53] start. They've done 5 year
[3:29:54] trend analysis for every every
[3:29:56] sub basin out there. So
[3:29:58] there's lots of information to
[3:29:58] start with. And we would just
[3:30:01] sit down with you and your
[3:30:02] staff and say, where do we go
[3:30:02] first, what do you want to
[3:30:06] look at? First? And we've got
[3:30:08] the modeling tool to do it.
[3:30:09] And again, it says this is
[3:30:12] wonderful. What a scenario
[3:30:12] analysis tool that eventually
[3:30:13] will give you cause for how
[3:30:16] much it costs and then do cost
[3:30:17] is essentially a cost
[3:30:21] efficiency analysis. To that
[3:30:25] answer. Know.
[3:30:29] >> And I'm sure all these ease
[3:30:29] bmps in the whims of the pals
[3:30:30] beings in the bam's and all
[3:30:31] these things are very, very
[3:30:34] important. But what we need is
[3:30:34] somebody to go to these
[3:30:40] meetings. And represent
[3:30:41] Okeechobee County and hear
[3:30:42] what they have to say. Thing
[3:30:43] come back and tell us they
[3:30:46] said this and we say no, we're
[3:30:47] going to fight for you this.
[3:30:48] We think what they're wanting
[3:30:49] to do is good for them and bad
[3:30:54] for us because we. We're not,
[3:30:55] you know, we're not educated
[3:30:57] and don't have the experience
[3:31:00] in all this water policy
[3:31:04] thing. I 20% of this board.
[3:31:04] But what I'm looking for is
[3:31:07] somebody that's going to be
[3:31:09] our our quarterback or cheer
[3:31:10] leader. That's going to go go
[3:31:10] to these meetings. He was
[3:31:14] going on. See what these with
[3:31:18] these other counties
[3:31:22] organizations are wanting to
[3:31:23] do and recognize that this,
[3:31:24] that that whatever it is or
[3:31:24] what want to do is not good
[3:31:27] for Okeechobee or is good for
[3:31:30] Okeechobee or doesn't fall on
[3:31:32] either side for Okeechobee,
[3:31:36] but we we need somebody that
[3:31:37] can go there those meetings,
[3:31:38] comeback fight for a stunning
[3:31:40] comeback. Doesn't say
[3:31:41] commissioners. Here's what
[3:31:42] here's what they want to do
[3:31:45] give us the. The let the
[3:31:46] Reader's Digest version. But,
[3:31:48] you know, the like you're
[3:31:51] talking at school bus, stop.
[3:31:51] You know, without without all
[3:31:53] the big words. Alright,
[3:31:58] carburetor and mayonnaise.
[3:32:00] >> No, I I understand your
[3:32:01] question the concern and I
[3:32:03] think we have a team that's
[3:32:03] built for that to be able
[3:32:06] provide what you're looking
[3:32:07] for. But know we talked a lot
[3:32:09] of technical all these terms
[3:32:09] about the modeling and
[3:32:12] watershed into b maps. But we
[3:32:15] do have a policy maker on our
[3:32:16] team in Short Hill. She's she
[3:32:17] works a bfa. She's part part
[3:32:21] of this team, ccs of policy
[3:32:22] manager. She's a person. It's
[3:32:23] helped guide policy. Bring all
[3:32:27] the stakeholders together. But
[3:32:29] first and foremost is to sit
[3:32:30] and listen to understand what
[3:32:32] your needs and your concerns
[3:32:34] are and how do we best take
[3:32:38] that conversation to the other
[3:32:40] stakeholders and make sure
[3:32:40] that we're working for you to
[3:32:41] make sure that we're trying to
[3:32:43] implement practices that will
[3:32:46] ultimately benefit.
[3:32:48] Okeechobee. Know, there's
[3:32:49] there's various tools like
[3:32:51] they, you know, every was
[3:32:51] mentioned here. Gave the
[3:32:52] presentation as a tool box to
[3:32:55] help implement that. But we
[3:32:56] need to know first and
[3:32:57] foremost, what is your goals
[3:33:00] and what is your needs? And
[3:33:00] no, we sit with these
[3:33:03] policymakers. Can have those
[3:33:05] conversations to make sure
[3:33:08] that that we are putting your
[3:33:10] goals and your object first
[3:33:11] and foremost, then we can come
[3:33:12] back and figure out how do we
[3:33:13] implemented? Make sure that we
[3:33:18] use the tool box, all all the
[3:33:19] all the items are a tool box
[3:33:21] to make sure that we work
[3:33:22] towards your goal to make sure
[3:33:23] is implemented. But we do have
[3:33:26] policymakers on our staff can
[3:33:27] sit in the rules with these
[3:33:29] folks and help guide those
[3:33:32] conversations to shoot to suit
[3:33:32] your interests.
[3:33:33] >> I yield time of
[3:33:39] commissioner So MR. Chair
[3:33:40] >> up, assume I already know
[3:33:41] the answer is and I'm not sure
[3:33:44] which one of you is best
[3:33:45] answer the question you listed
[3:33:48] off some of your other clients
[3:33:49] here locally. A lot of them
[3:33:49] friends of ours people with
[3:33:53] known her whole life. Where
[3:33:54] could any potential conflict
[3:34:01] come? What you're? Thinking
[3:34:02] might be best County in the
[3:34:05] greater scheme of getting
[3:34:06] along with our other partners
[3:34:09] and the watershed. Versus what
[3:34:12] you're doing for existing ag
[3:34:15] clients that you have here. I
[3:34:17] can see a situation there to
[3:34:17] wear what you MAY recommend
[3:34:21] us. Maybe. Opposite of of
[3:34:25] what's best for them. So how
[3:34:26] do we avoid that potential
[3:34:33] conflict? I don't really think
[3:34:34] there's a conflict as much. I
[3:34:35] understand your concerns very
[3:34:37] much.
[3:34:38] >> I think we all have the
[3:34:39] same goal in mind is which is
[3:34:41] cleaning up the lake. The
[3:34:42] landowners want to do the same
[3:34:44] thing. The only thing that
[3:34:45] we're going to be fighting for
[3:34:48] is the same pot of money.
[3:34:50] Depending on what's out there
[3:34:50] and available for available
[3:34:54] cash here. A lot of it only
[3:34:55] goes to private landowners and
[3:34:56] they're going to be attacking
[3:34:59] that very much. But several of
[3:35:01] the policies and several of
[3:35:01] the grants are associated only
[3:35:03] with municipal governments.
[3:35:05] And so I see that as a
[3:35:06] separate goal, all trying to
[3:35:10] beat the same thing. So we're
[3:35:12] same regard says we're all
[3:35:12] going after, you know, funding
[3:35:14] to help us get to the same
[3:35:15] goal. I don't really see a
[3:35:19] conflict so much. We're a
[3:35:20] particular landowners going to
[3:35:20] do something that would be
[3:35:22] against the goals of the
[3:35:22] county. They all have the same
[3:35:26] goal.
[3:35:27] >> Well, certainly is an
[3:35:28] implied difference and go with
[3:35:32] the. Profitable money-making
[3:35:34] concern versus government
[3:35:35] body. You know where we don't
[3:35:38] have to look at. We don't have
[3:35:39] to look at what this would be
[3:35:43] best. But we can maybe make a
[3:35:44] little more if we just do
[3:35:46] this. Much of it were a
[3:35:47] business and GOD love them and
[3:35:52] all for it. And some of their.
[3:35:53] Needs and desires also include
[3:35:54] profitability of their
[3:35:59] business. Where's that?
[3:36:01] Wouldn't be the focus of a
[3:36:02] municipal government like ours
[3:36:04] are. Our business is strictly
[3:36:05] to get it as clean and pretty
[3:36:07] in pristine as possible to
[3:36:08] make Okeechobee as a whole.
[3:36:11] The most desirable place. For
[3:36:13] future businesses, tourism.
[3:36:17] Where Take it? Milken Arbery.
[3:36:20] They still need to make money.
[3:36:21] They have to stay. Totally I
[3:36:23] totally agree with you. But if
[3:36:24] you take a look at it the way
[3:36:25] we look at it.
[3:36:26] >> You have the same goals
[3:36:29] that landowner has because you
[3:36:30] can't just say I want that.
[3:36:31] Make that like the clean as
[3:36:34] possible. You have to save
[3:36:36] yourselves. I have to use all
[3:36:36] of the means that we're with
[3:36:38] in my checkbook. To make it as
[3:36:42] clean as possible. That's why
[3:36:42] we're such big advocates and
[3:36:44] trying to get state grant
[3:36:44] money in federal grant money
[3:36:47] to help you reach those goals
[3:36:49] because nobody has the Golden
[3:36:51] Checkbook. You have fiscal
[3:36:52] responsibilities just like the
[3:36:53] landowners have fiscal
[3:36:55] responsibilities. They're
[3:36:56] trying to make a profit.
[3:36:56] You're trying to get the
[3:36:59] biggest bang for the buck.
[3:37:00] You're trying to get the most
[3:37:00] water quality for the amount
[3:37:02] of money that you're spending.
[3:37:03] So I see them as very similar
[3:37:07] goals. And that's why a lot of
[3:37:08] times the grants are set up
[3:37:09] with municipal on one side and
[3:37:11] private on the other because
[3:37:12] that's very difficult to mix
[3:37:15] and match. And so we have team
[3:37:17] members, you know, my team
[3:37:17] been doing a lot for the
[3:37:19] individual landowners over the
[3:37:22] years. Where Barnes Ferland?
[3:37:23] They do a lot with the
[3:37:26] governmental and you know,
[3:37:27] different types of grant
[3:37:27] monies that are coming out of
[3:37:28] state, federal for
[3:37:29] municipalities. And so that's
[3:37:31] why we put this team together.
[3:37:34] It's because we feel that if
[3:37:35] we can meet your objectives
[3:37:35] were meeting everybody's
[3:37:40] objectives. That could be
[3:37:44] okay. Yes, sir.
[3:37:45] >> You know, I don't disagree
[3:37:47] with what you just articulated
[3:37:48] because ultimately the
[3:37:49] landowners really need to have
[3:37:49] the water clinging to because
[3:37:51] their water goes off into the
[3:37:53] leak. And one of the things
[3:37:54] that we're trying to focus on.
[3:37:55] And and I keep up with a lot
[3:37:58] of this, is that as just
[3:37:58] articulated from putting up
[3:38:03] the of
[3:38:04] >> We're we're very what we're
[3:38:04] looking for is to make sure
[3:38:07] that we have an individual to
[3:38:09] table order to help protect
[3:38:11] the water here at the lake
[3:38:11] because this water feeds East
[3:38:16] West and South. And it just
[3:38:16] told the commissioners a few
[3:38:17] moments still got the Shingle
[3:38:19] Creek Project coming up and
[3:38:24] that in itself is good. But it
[3:38:25] also has could have bad
[3:38:26] opportunities to them. We need
[3:38:28] to understand that the pros
[3:38:28] and cons of those types of
[3:38:33] things in one, we have an
[3:38:34] organization is seeing these
[3:38:35] in these meetings that cf acs
[3:38:38] and meetings too, make sure
[3:38:38] that the view aggressive
[3:38:39] people, the power point of
[3:38:41] people are putting up on the
[3:38:42] screen, really don't hurt us
[3:38:45] down here either from flooding
[3:38:47] or water quality. That's what
[3:38:50] we need in terms of of your
[3:38:54] type of organization. Now, I
[3:38:54] understand to be mp's and all
[3:38:56] those types these of those are
[3:38:57] important. But the end of the
[3:39:00] day, is that. When we're
[3:39:00] dealing with the water coming
[3:39:03] down from the north, that
[3:39:05] water has cost us severe
[3:39:06] problems, whether it be
[3:39:11] raising the lake. That stuff
[3:39:13] that comes down out of that
[3:39:14] after hurricanes and causes of
[3:39:17] problems with with our late.
[3:39:18] So I kind of agree with agree
[3:39:20] with assessment that, you
[3:39:21] know, the landowners to have
[3:39:22] jet same objectives as we do
[3:39:23] is clean water. I think that's
[3:39:26] the bottom line and also agree
[3:39:27] with the fact there's a whole
[3:39:27] different pot of money that
[3:39:31] the municipalities are are
[3:39:32] counties as just couple
[3:39:34] there's a lot of money's been
[3:39:38] pushed over here for low car.
[3:39:41] And so understand that. And so
[3:39:41] not in a disagreement with
[3:39:44] your assessment, but what I'm
[3:39:46] looking for, I think as
[3:39:47] Commissioner Goodrich the
[3:39:51] other 20% over here is that I
[3:39:52] know what it is. The city,
[3:39:54] some of these meetings and
[3:39:55] boring as all get out. There's
[3:39:58] no doubt about it. Army Corps
[3:39:59] of Engineers can put sleep
[3:39:59] with theirs with their slide
[3:40:02] presentations. But it's
[3:40:06] important for somebody to be
[3:40:07] there because they can they
[3:40:07] can mess you up to in in a
[3:40:11] heartbeat. I totally agree.
[3:40:12] And
[3:40:12] >> the uniqueness of our team
[3:40:17] is the fact that. We can sit
[3:40:19] there and listen to that
[3:40:20] rattling on presentations that
[3:40:24] are meant to. Mystify you into
[3:40:25] saying that their position is
[3:40:30] correct. When reality is we
[3:40:32] have the technical tools to to
[3:40:33] get you know, time out. That's
[3:40:37] not We have the technical
[3:40:37] stuff that we do a lot of
[3:40:39] times don't want to talk
[3:40:40] about. We have that horsepower
[3:40:43] on our team. That we can fight
[3:40:45] back because that's the first
[3:40:46] step is, you know, there's a
[3:40:48] lot of people that talk. They
[3:40:50] talk about policies. They talk
[3:40:51] about this and this is what I
[3:40:51] want to have. And this is what
[3:40:54] we should do. But if you don't
[3:40:55] have the science behind you,
[3:40:57] you don't really have a leg to
[3:40:59] stand on. So if you can prove
[3:41:01] your position by science. That
[3:41:05] it comes back into, you know
[3:41:06] what, you guys the politics
[3:41:06] that, you know, the trying to
[3:41:08] get funding and eccentric
[3:41:10] cetera. So but we have the
[3:41:11] science on our team to really
[3:41:14] kind of. Kind of ferret out a
[3:41:15] lot of the misinformation
[3:41:16] that's going to thrown out at
[3:41:20] you.
[3:41:22] >> I appreciate what you said
[3:41:23] because I sat through some of
[3:41:26] the lowsome meetings. And we
[3:41:27] see that Mother Nature just
[3:41:28] tears lowsome apart. All
[3:41:32] right. And that's that's the
[3:41:33] key that people don't pay
[3:41:34] attention to. His mother
[3:41:35] Nature don't care about all
[3:41:38] these meetings. When they come
[3:41:38] in here with a hurricane or
[3:41:42] 100 year flood or maybe they
[3:41:42] could get your they could care
[3:41:44] less about being peaceful. But
[3:41:46] we need to be able to be
[3:41:47] prepared for those types of
[3:41:52] things. Commissioner, to come.
[3:41:52] >> So I have to probably tell
[3:41:56] a little story, but recently
[3:41:58] an investment group came to
[3:41:59] our town. Wanted to do a water
[3:42:02] project, but come to us. They
[3:42:02] went right to water
[3:42:08] management. Started working
[3:42:10] together and then we heard
[3:42:11] about it basically because
[3:42:12] they never presented it to us.
[3:42:13] And we heard about it. They
[3:42:16] were already they're
[3:42:18] purchasing the property is
[3:42:20] getting involved. And our
[3:42:22] question was because 2
[3:42:22] neighborhoods in an air strip
[3:42:23] in some other things that were
[3:42:26] involved. Why does it have to
[3:42:28] happen here were could create
[3:42:33] a flood zone or impact
[3:42:34] homeowners values and and
[3:42:35] property and different things.
[3:42:36] Why couldn't we move it this
[3:42:38] way or that way? They talked
[3:42:39] about storm water above
[3:42:41] natural ground level and we
[3:42:42] didn't have anybody to go to
[3:42:48] ask. You know, good for us to
[3:42:50] suspend. This will work won't
[3:42:51] work because some of the sta
[3:42:51] son, another border projects
[3:42:52] haven't been successful. We
[3:42:56] know that. Would that be
[3:42:57] something you would go in and
[3:43:00] investigate for us and say,
[3:43:00] listen, this is the best place
[3:43:01] for it or this isn't the best
[3:43:05] place for her. Saying
[3:43:06] question.
[3:43:07] >> That's the beauty of the
[3:43:07] tools that we have. We have
[3:43:09] the entire basis already
[3:43:11] modeled and so we can go in
[3:43:12] there and to use different
[3:43:15] areas. And, you know, maybe
[3:43:16] they have a proposed area Fort
[3:43:17] Week and then evaluate that
[3:43:22] versus other areas.
[3:43:22] >> What we try to do get ahead
[3:43:23] of these projects when they
[3:43:26] first come in because it's
[3:43:29] much easier for a project to
[3:43:30] be successful if state, local
[3:43:32] and all the funding agencies
[3:43:32] actually want to happen
[3:43:33] because it's meeting
[3:43:35] everybody's objectives. It's
[3:43:37] really sad when somebody like
[3:43:39] that comes in and then all of
[3:43:41] a sudden you're the odd man
[3:43:42] out trying to defend yourself
[3:43:43] saying you're going to flood
[3:43:44] by communities when everybody
[3:43:46] else is already saying it's
[3:43:47] almost funded. That's
[3:43:48] counterproductive. What we
[3:43:48] need to do is get everybody at
[3:43:50] the table. We need to use the
[3:43:54] tools that we have. We need to
[3:43:54] make informed decisions based
[3:43:55] on the information that we get
[3:43:57] back from the models and then
[3:44:01] move forward as a team
[3:44:03] together because then they
[3:44:04] hire or greater chance of
[3:44:05] success. So I totally agree
[3:44:07] with you. And I think we have
[3:44:08] the team that can come in and
[3:44:10] assess those things early on
[3:44:10] and we can represent for
[3:44:17] needs. Anyone else.
[3:44:20] >> Okay. Thank you so much.
[3:44:20] Appreciate We will be in
[3:44:28] touch.
[3:44:43] >> Placer.
[3:44:52] Told the commission
[3:44:52] don't. We don't. We number
[3:44:57] one.
[3:44:57] >> Representative, we had
[3:44:58] number 2 presented. This won't
[3:44:59] just won't be binding, but
[3:45:00] this would be opposed win.
[3:45:01] However, everybody, because
[3:45:02] what they're doing. Number one
[3:45:12] or number 2. 1, Somebody want
[3:45:15] to make a motion to
[3:45:17] administrative start
[3:45:18] negotiations. I make a motion
[3:45:21] to I'm sorry. Could I?
[3:45:22] >> In case you want to make
[3:45:23] this part of the negation part
[3:45:26] of the motion looking for a
[3:45:28] cap on the budget and some
[3:45:32] references for you. We have
[3:45:33] lobbyist right now that we pay
[3:45:35] to federal law piece. We pay
[3:45:36] 30,000 East State lobbyist. We
[3:45:39] pay 60,000, but while staff is
[3:45:41] negotiating.
[3:45:45] >> With the number one and
[3:45:46] ksat doesn't work out that we
[3:45:47] got to go to number 2. Is what
[3:45:50] cap?
[3:45:51] >> I'm not. But that number
[3:45:52] one and number 2 is not my
[3:45:53] ranking. If it doesn't go the
[3:45:55] one, I go back to the drawing
[3:45:56] board. Okay. Then what I cap
[3:45:57] of a budget that you like
[3:46:01] cheap.
[3:46:05] >> And you go, wait a minute
[3:46:06] later research and maybe look
[3:46:07] and see what other
[3:46:11] municipalities. We change I
[3:46:14] did. And there's a range of
[3:46:18] for water. Quality service is
[3:46:18] between 40,080 1000 with
[3:46:19] senior level, meaning probably
[3:46:24] engineering. You know, more so
[3:46:24] between 40 and 80 s what I
[3:46:28] would think that range.
[3:46:28] >> So there's recap what you
[3:46:29] want. You want to you 1000 as
[3:46:32] a cap.
[3:46:36] >> I don't know enough say I
[3:46:36] don't I hate know how telling
[3:46:39] you that we have a cap.
[3:46:40] >> based on the fact of the
[3:46:42] service said that, you
[3:46:46] outlined in the rf well, for
[3:46:46] those that rfp Rfq part of
[3:46:47] based on the service said, I
[3:46:55] mean, just don't said Camp.
[3:46:56] Let's do a range visitors
[3:46:57] because we can't that was
[3:47:00] going to be another.
[3:47:01] >> But w w I was opened the
[3:47:07] door when it was talk. This
[3:47:07] will take time. Was what you
[3:47:10] need know I don't think
[3:47:12] putting the cap this is is
[3:47:16] like. You've already. You've
[3:47:28] already outlined The matter.
[3:47:29] >> I do have say properly what
[3:47:31] I'm thinking, but
[3:47:34] >> it's almost like a brother.
[3:47:35] Rather look at the menu first.
[3:47:35] You know what this is what
[3:47:38] will offer for this amount? I
[3:47:39] don't know what a cap, but I
[3:47:43] don't know what the typical
[3:47:44] price of company that provides
[3:47:46] it services have never it.
[3:47:47] They provided to me. You know,
[3:47:49] if you look at that. But they
[3:47:55] tell you what they on the day.
[3:47:56] What will mean. Look r#
[3:47:56] #
[3:47:56] #
[3:47:56] #
[3:47:57] ,
[3:47:57] the presentation that we
[3:48:00] received from number one.
[3:48:04] >> on the less than $80,000.
[3:48:06] Well, that was to this point.
[3:48:06] Don't even know if I'm allowed
[3:48:08] to say that cause is not for
[3:48:09] us to negotiate, but I know
[3:48:10] we're trying to decide whether
[3:48:12] or not there should be kept. A
[3:48:17] pretty well human people.
[3:48:17] Believe that you have to
[3:48:18] understand what they're doing,
[3:48:19] that they all that group of
[3:48:22] people off variety of
[3:48:22] services.
[3:48:26] >> We are asking for one
[3:48:27] service right right
[3:48:28] Everybody's not include.
[3:48:28] That's exactly right. None of
[3:48:32] the they're just given us
[3:48:34] report tree what they offer.
[3:48:37] Well, they offer grant writing
[3:48:39] help, offer negotiating
[3:48:40] healthy. That idea But right
[3:48:44] now you can be heard. Todd.
[3:48:45] >> all along, not the right
[3:48:47] with the grant writing. Well,
[3:48:49] if you need it here, I got you
[3:48:54] a grant and we will this is
[3:48:55] the additional costs. And
[3:48:55] that's how in you all of, you
[3:48:56] know, exactly we're going to
[3:48:57] we'll start out with this. But
[3:49:00] if we need, it something else
[3:49:01] really know them to go. But go
[3:49:04] to you and say what you charge
[3:49:05] to if we need to grant writer,
[3:49:06] how much would you charge to
[3:49:10] that? So are presented team.
[3:49:12] We're not going for the team.
[3:49:14] We're just going for a job.
[3:49:14] You're just as what someone
[3:49:15] just feed. You get any when
[3:49:16] you need. Have you know what
[3:49:27] the said. 8 when should
[3:49:27] negotiate, integrates 8 for
[3:49:28] your representative to do what
[3:49:30] with what said. We want it
[3:49:31] done than to go. Give you a
[3:49:33] fee if you need to senior
[3:49:34] engineers x amount, if you
[3:49:35] need to JANUARY engineers and
[3:49:37] then you can't have a cap of
[3:49:38] any description because
[3:49:39] Stanley Feet. And as you get
[3:49:40] in the one person only.
[3:49:41] >> The rest of them are as
[3:49:43] needed.
[3:49:47] >> Well, last time when we
[3:49:47] negotiated of started national
[3:49:53] floors, chair. Last time when
[3:49:54] we chose the attorneys we
[3:49:57] wanted, then we gave. The
[3:50:01] administrator the ability to
[3:50:05] go and negotiate with him. I
[3:50:06] don't know if seems like it
[3:50:07] probably be another good. A
[3:50:10] good way to to handle this she
[3:50:11] would come back to us and say,
[3:50:12] look, this is what we I mean,
[3:50:18] that would be my that would be
[3:50:19] recommendation. Think she I
[3:50:20] you to a certain degree
[3:50:21] because I don't I don't want
[3:50:23] to put caps on things. I agree
[3:50:24] 100% because I think what you
[3:50:26] need to do is let her go and
[3:50:26] negotiate years.
[3:50:27] >> Here's a service that let
[3:50:30] them if they come back say,
[3:50:31] listen, give it to you on a
[3:50:32] per hour basis and to do this
[3:50:34] is going to take x amount of
[3:50:37] hours. 5 meetings, 6 hours.
[3:50:40] All right. Whatever MAY be.
[3:50:40] And then they answer your
[3:50:44] question. If we given time.
[3:50:49] It's just like on. We're step
[3:50:49] steps. Fire. If if an steps
[3:50:54] organization. On cmt is that
[3:50:56] chips to do. You have a guy
[3:50:57] that does and then we would
[3:51:00] her that person to do next.
[3:51:02] The same thing with this piece
[3:51:04] they they provided a litany of
[3:51:05] services. So if you come in
[3:51:06] here the next week and you say
[3:51:10] want to do grant ready, then
[3:51:10] you'd hire that individual to
[3:51:12] do. Grant writing for out
[3:51:15] Peart for all hourly basis.
[3:51:15] And that's what she's going to
[3:51:16] get the upper hourly basis
[3:51:19] because that you don't know
[3:51:20] how unless you go set the
[3:51:21] number of meetings, you
[3:51:25] meetings and You because
[3:51:25] that's what you're asking.
[3:51:27] You're asking to go to
[3:51:27] meetings and give information.
[3:51:28] Why don't we do this little we
[3:51:31] live here negotiate and bring
[3:51:31] it back.
[3:51:32] >> If it does, if you can't
[3:51:33] negotiate something, the board
[3:51:35] approves him to go back to the
[3:51:37] drawing board. Don't go to the
[3:51:38] second right MAY be set up
[3:51:39] kind of like think you are
[3:51:42] like a retainer. There's
[3:51:43] retainer for certain amount.
[3:51:44] And if you go past that, then
[3:51:47] it's time to feed the kitty or
[3:51:48] if you haven't been using this
[3:51:51] service for a while, you know,
[3:51:52] maybe they'll give us a chance
[3:51:53] to use the grant service
[3:51:54] because there's been no
[3:51:54] meetings for a while. So it's
[3:51:57] just been sitting simmering.
[3:52:00] So but I don't know enough
[3:52:02] negotiate this more time will
[3:52:03] be twice of going. And I agree
[3:52:05] with I've got MARCH air. One
[3:52:06] other question because I
[3:52:08] wasn't here when this all got
[3:52:09] started. Was there any amount
[3:52:15] budgeted for this? No. Okay.
[3:52:16] First woman hold coming answer
[3:52:19] the question directly. There
[3:52:20] not an amount budgeted yet
[3:52:21] because we're going to start
[3:52:24] doing the budget. So I
[3:52:25] answered it appropriately.
[3:52:27] From that standpoint. So are
[3:52:31] we all in favor of that? Will?
[3:52:34] >> So MISS Manzo loose on him.
[3:52:38] >> The requested action. Is to
[3:52:39] authorize the county
[3:52:39] administrator to begin
[3:52:40] negotiations with the top rate
[3:52:42] from there you go.
[3:52:46] >> Do you have MISTER Chair
[3:52:47] the 7 Day b d you have.
[3:52:54] >> And authority. Cap number
[3:52:55] that you can sign without
[3:52:59] bringing it back to us. No,
[3:53:01] yes, no, not that, you I'm
[3:53:02] MISS. Do for us? You've got to
[3:53:09] come back to us. General, But
[3:53:10] in this instance, it needs to
[3:53:14] come back to which is fine. In
[3:53:15] general, she could have a cap.
[3:53:15] But the problem is that her
[3:53:18] cat wouldn't pay for
[3:53:19] >> So that's that's the
[3:53:19] intent. Was that direction?
[3:53:20] Now? That was answer to the
[3:53:24] question. So she already has
[3:53:27] to bring it back to us because
[3:53:28] dollar. So I guess made the
[3:53:31] motion or do I mean speak the
[3:53:33] motion or she made the motion.
[3:53:34] MAY removed motion. He's got a
[3:53:38] second. Some. I move that we
[3:53:40] do what I said. We motion by
[3:53:43] Commissioner. Good bread, too.
[3:53:44] Include all the verbiage you
[3:53:46] missed. Just didn't Second by
[3:53:47] commissioner to Carlo any
[3:53:50] further discussion. Negative
[3:53:57] attorney smiling. She smiled.
[3:53:58] You got get keep it that all
[3:54:00] in favor say Aye. Aye opposed.
[3:54:01] Nay motion carries
[3:54:02] unanimously.
[3:54:03] >> Anything else? For the good