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>> Welcome back. For the

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record. Again, we are public

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hearing. I mean, public

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workshops are in the public

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and public workshop. So we

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will not have. Public comment

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as such. But if you want to

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speak to an item that is

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pertinent to the situation, if

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you let us know be able to

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speak. So at this commissioner

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to Collingwood, you lead us in

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prayer and commissioner, good

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vantage, elitist and a salute

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to the flag. If you'd stand

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with place.

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>> father, we thank you again

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for another beautiful day here

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could us you've been with us

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this week. Listen to different

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departments and Lord help us

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to make good decisions work

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together and do the best thing

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for our county. If this is the

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day. But the things you do

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clarify you in Jesus name,

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Amen.

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>> allegiance to the flag.

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States of America to public

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for which it stands. Nation

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under indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> Okay. We're gonna start

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fire. Rescue. And that is on

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Page one. 97.

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>> Commissioners, before you

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flip all the way to one 97,

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you notice a new page on your

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desk. There's page 15 16. The

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change there is on Page 16,

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Fire Rescue fund when 18.

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There was air on the amended

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budget for 25. 26. So that has

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been corrected to show I

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presented budget as is right

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now is a 7% increase. As

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opposed to 14%. That was on

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the last page. That replaces

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the page. Well, you know how

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to start your presentation

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off. I would like to shout out

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to our budget Department for.

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Very responsive budget season.

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It's been absolutely wonderful

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working with them season. Any

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time we brought something to

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them, they've not only been

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receptive it. Quick to make

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necessary corrections or

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explain to me why I was wrong.

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Was that that budget reserves

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that thing that up.

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>> Called you with the way

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back from Orlando. Now it was

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about the amended budget

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number. Answering your

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question for yes, okay. We're

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>> Yes, sir. So this is for

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fire rescue has your where

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fire rescue split into 2

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separate funds, one for fire,

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one for ems. That's based on

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the assessments that are

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collected for each. Addition

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to those funds. We also

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receive revenue its billing

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and fire inspection services.

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Also did just recently changed

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our billing ordinance to

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change our fees to to update

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those to. So fire rescue fire

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services. You see some capital

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requests to hear fire towers

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is funds that we have in this

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current fiscal year that we're

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working with cip right now.

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Trying to get some of that

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done has proved to be a little

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bit more time consuming than

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anticipated and not not that

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I'm not at them because

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they're doing it for free. But

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kind trying to save money

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there. And Justin Nelson and

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his crew have been absolutely

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wonderful to work with. We've

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say a substantial amount of

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money on the proposed

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renovations to the fire

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training grounds. So I'm

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excited about that, but that

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that is a rollover of those of

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that budgeted money. So that's

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capital expense there. What

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are you doing with the fire

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we've completed those

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renovations. We added lights.

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lighting that was not put into

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the tower and then we built a

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pavilion. And next step we're

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going to expand the fire

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training grounds behind the

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pavilion to include some fire

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training props, actual live

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fire, training, props, and

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then also put restroom in the

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pavilion.

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It's it's a shade structure.

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The Yes, sir.

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>> The idea there's also the

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sheriff's office helped us

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with civilian a lot. And the

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idea there's also for for us

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to be able to use that as a

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facility there for our staff

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to, you know, we've had

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quarterly family nights and

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stuff like that are are also

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held in that The station for

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improvements. Again, that's a

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re budget from this current

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year. If you recall last year

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that was funded and we decide

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to leave that in there as a

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place holder more more or to

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go towards the next fire

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station. So instead of making

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improvements at station 4 at

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the commission's direction,

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we're going to just roll that

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funds into the construction of

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the new fire station. Once we

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once that starts. So again,

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this is just a re budget from

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the current fiscal year.

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>> So your definition, so just

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for the public's Opportunity

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here. Your definition re

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budget is just your role and

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your your budget it last year.

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this year. So that's not an

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increase its funds that we

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have not expanded. Just

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reallocating to this current.

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>> So the next to the brush

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truck and the fire engine are

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trying this year to reduce not

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normally, especially the fire

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engine would financed purchase

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interest rate on that. The

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last couple years the

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commission has been gracious

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enough for multiple

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departments to pay off those

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loans at a landfill trust fund

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to save on the interest. So

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mistress Eriksen. I thought

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that this MAY be a good

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opportunity to try. Let's just

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purchase a out of the

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that as a 0 interest loan and

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pay that back over the next

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mostly some you have a years.

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or 10. 10 years. You know. It.

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funds back into the landfill.

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interest loan.

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>> You pay those funds out of

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as sounds. Or just certainly

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fire or not this We're doing

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the same thing for rescue in

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the msi. But this would come

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strictly out of 5 risk for

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fire funding. Yes, sir. But

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the pro struck the brush truck

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is just is it.

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same way. But I am in the

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process of working with the

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grants department and we feel

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extremely favorable to get

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over half of that covered with

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a with a federal grant.

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units, a replacement. Yes,

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there's repose. 2002. So the

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that we have satisfied our

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debt service obligation again,

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that the landfill trust fund

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in this current budget year.

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our rates are proposed rates

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there for fire rescue. I have

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the clicker here. Winter

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weather wasn't changing it.

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the fireside? So on emergency

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ems Idamor to medical

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services? You can see some

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recap a rescue, our cap

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request there. We haven't

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rescue. The same concept as

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the fire engine. That's

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575,000. I do believe that.

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that. But that is the market

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price. And it's just based on

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what I'm able to negotiate

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with the vendors when that

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time comes. But the same

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concept there would be a

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landfill, trust loan and we

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would pay that back over 10

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years. The other devices you

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see there are devices that

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would go on that rescue. So

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there's there are capital

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expenses to put the stretcher

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itself as $25,000 expense and

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then the system that that

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stretcher hooks into as

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another $50,000 expense. And

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then the life pack is the

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heart monitor. The stared

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chair is just a device. We

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used to get people in and out

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of. We use honestly using more

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for single why mobile homes

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that we do stairs. We don't

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have a lot of high rise

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buildings, but it's a very

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narrow wheelchair. Basically

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that can get down those single

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wide hallways. And then the

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Lucas devices did cpr machine.

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That does the compression

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chest compressions. And it's

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just and saves us a lot of a

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lot of wear and tear on our

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employees actually by having

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that machine to do cpr. You

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know, when you're coming from

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a if anybody's ever done cpr,

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when you're coming from the

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Prairie. 35 minute ride doing

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cpr for 30 minutes with 2

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people is a. That's a that's a

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long ride. Done it a few

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>> But let's go back to well,

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you don't have to go back to

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this post on fire ems on

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personnel. You have a 14%

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increase just county. Give us

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some idea why so, yes, sir, so

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that the increase in personnel

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the increase personal

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expenses, the budgeted raises.

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And then we do have 6 new

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positions that will be split

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between fire and ems.

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>> Those new positions, I will

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be the first we've hired in

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quite some time. We did have

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16 in our five-year plan and

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we have not heard any of

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those. So this will be the

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conclusion of our five-year

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next year. So we'll be able

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instead of 16 will be do. It

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was 6 and the large part is,

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you know, we've had an

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increase in call volume. We've

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taken over the city Fire

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department, but there's been a

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lot of services that we did

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not offer it in the past that

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we are offering now. Our

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employees work. They're

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scheduled to work. A 56 hour

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work week. And right now I'm

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running over time every day.

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My pleasure. Averaging a 62.

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Our work week with the amount

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of overtime that they're

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picking up. So this will help

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reduce that overtime burden

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and then it is also a

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preparation for the future. We

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do have a station prepared to

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be built fan fire department

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can't just hire an entire

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station when the station opens

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in these to gradual steps

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because I can't you know, it

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would take 15 people to a

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minimum to open a new station

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and half of those people are

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officers. So I can't just go

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out and hire supervisors in

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the prior service. So Justin,

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you're saying that.

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>> If you are the 6 people

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now, they will be 6 of the 15

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for the new fire station. Are

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you going to still? At our

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intent is is to move some of

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our current trucks that out.

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But I'm not able to staff

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right now like have a second

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rescue station, too.

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>> The 6 people will help

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staff that are more regular

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basis right now. There's all

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most of the time. It's not

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staffed. And then I have the 2

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fire engines at station one

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right now from when we assume

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the services that the city. So

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our intent would be to move

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one of those fires engines to

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the new station and the second

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rescue. So it will be the bulk

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of them. But I I'm not going

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to tell you that I won't need

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more people when that station

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comes around. But this will be

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people. Yes, sir.

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>> And how far off in the

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future and should already know

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this? And I do how far off in

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the future. We're looking at

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that new station being up and

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running. Is that 2 years from

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now referred to just moment.

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So commissioner, what once we

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have the land acquisition, I

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would say we're depending on

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what design we we can come up

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with that. We can find what

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we're looking at pre designed

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station. So we don't have to

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have that one year. Plus and

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design. We probably will take

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about a year or a little less

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than a year for permitting

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with storm water and South

376
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Florida water management. So

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the goal is to be occupied

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within the next 3 years. And

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it's all gonna depend on the

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sec funding. You know, we're

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gonna try to roll some grant

382
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money forward from the design

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to use the minimal amount of

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of the money that was

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allocated through for the

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design. So our goal is if we

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can get this thing down would

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be within the next 3 years to

389
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the best case scenario is 3

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years. Yes, sir, that that

391
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would be that would be where I

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would say we would be within

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the next 3 years will have

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that building occupied. I

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would like to see it sooner.

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But we're still in the

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acquisition process. So we're

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hoping to have that done and

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completed here pretty soon.

400
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Chair. Justin District, a

401
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couple questions. One.

402
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>> What are the additional

403
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services that we're offering

404
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that we didn't know before.

405
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>> It's mostly in our risk

406
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reduction agency where we do

407
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community cpr. We're doing far

408
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more inspections of commercial

409
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buildings than we've ever

410
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done. And including in the

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city. When we tweak when we

412
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took over the fire department,

413
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we took over the commercial

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inspections within the city

415
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limits. So and then, you know,

416
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we partner with the school. We

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teach the teachers cpr and we

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first date, we go out to the

419
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H.O.A. Ys and 55 plus

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communities and teach them how

421
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to use their 80's and teach

422
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them how to do cpr. And then

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every every year we're going

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to schools that those type of

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of services are the ones that

426
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I was referring to.

427
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Commissioner.

428
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>> All right. Secondly, when

429
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you get the new brush truck,

430
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are you going to surplus the

431
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old one? Yes, All right. In

432
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because you're gonna surplus.

433
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The old one. Were you be able

434
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to take some tools? Off of it

435
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and put it on new brush truck

436
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or the years because it's a

437
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2002. Some of the things that

438
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you have to outfit. List here,

439
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MISTER Chair and wife Packery

440
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those things Hl. I don't know

441
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what.

442
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>> Yes, sir. So those those

443
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specific items go on an

444
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ambulance we will move some

445
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things over. The ama says is a

446
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little bit different we will

447
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be one, but it's all the

448
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equipment on it is outdated.

449
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The brush truck specifically

450
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doesn't have a lot of

451
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equipment on carries water and

452
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pop. But we do. We do take off

453
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anything that before it goes

454
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option we take off anything

455
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that we could think we can

456
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use. Yes or

457
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>> Justin with the hiring of

458
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the 6 new employees this and

459
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cutting back on overtime. MISS

460
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That about a Washington way

461
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over. It is not a wash. It is

462
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a reduction in the cost to the

463
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to the department MISS Lisa

464
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work. Those numbers up for us

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and we did see a reduction.

466
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>> And the total cost is not

467
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even close to 50%. It's it's

468
00:16:00,604 --> 00:16:05,404
not a wash on that. But it is

469
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it is a. I want get. The one

470
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of the one of the reasons is

471
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the burden on our employee

472
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6.62 hours a week on average

473
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for employees. Some of them

474
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working substantially more

475
00:16:17,621 --> 00:16:18,622
than that you know it. Comes

476
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to a point you know, we start

477
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worrying about their their

478
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their burnouts and stuff like

479
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that or just simply losing

480
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them to these other

481
00:16:25,196 --> 00:16:27,596
departments around us that

482
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work far less hours. Are you

483
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still?

484
00:16:30,701 --> 00:16:32,237
>> Are you? Are you better

485
00:16:32,237 --> 00:16:32,903
retaining these guys now away?

486
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Just came up a little bit.

487
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Yes, sir. We are doing better.

488
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>> We used our by the end of

489
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this summer, I hope to be

490
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fully staffed. Are put an icon

491
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plus that one time for about 3

492
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weeks. I think during his

493
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tenure and before that, it had

494
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been several years prior

495
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before we since we had been

496
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fully staffed. So I wouldn't

497
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be up here asking for new 2

498
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positions. If I didn't think

499
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that I could feel them. So we

500
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we are we'll be fully staffed

501
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by the end of the summer. Some

502
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of those will be the trainee

503
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positions of allowed me to do

504
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so by the end of this year,

505
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those will be transitioning

506
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and we'll use that trainee

507
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position probably to fill some

508
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of these 6 positions as well.

509
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So it MAY be it MAY be a

510
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little bit less in the initial

511
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hiring face to put those

512
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positions on, but they will

513
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will be back to that hiring

514
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local candidates program. The

515
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House short of a full

516
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compliment. Are you right now?

517
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>> 2 and how much is that

518
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affecting that 6 hours of

519
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overtime for those other guys,

520
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if you had those 2 positions

521
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filled?

522
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>> And did you crunch those

523
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numbers to see if that?

524
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>> So right we allowed to

525
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people off per shift. It's

526
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that that gone on vacation.

527
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Whatever the leave, maybe.

528
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>> That number actually been

529
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the same since I got hired.

530
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>> well, experiences the

531
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usually the overtime is caused

532
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by, you know, someone to be in

533
00:17:57,421 --> 00:17:59,821
school. Someone falling out

534
00:18:02,793 --> 00:18:03,594
sick. This an anticipated. Pix

535
00:18:03,594 --> 00:18:05,429
examples of leave that we're

536
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that we're having to fill over

537
00:18:07,565 --> 00:18:10,334
time for. I don't have any

538
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shifts right now that have

539
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,269
automatic overtime. We did. At

540
00:18:12,269 --> 00:18:13,838
one point we had so many so

541
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many vacancies that I just had

542
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a new that on a ship that was

543
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going to have to run over

544
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every day, regardless of who

545
00:18:20,744 --> 00:18:22,547
was off. So we're not at that

546
00:18:22,547 --> 00:18:24,150
point right now, but certainly

547
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:24,715
any vacancies do contribute to

548
00:18:24,715 --> 00:18:25,716
the amount of overtime. Well,

549
00:18:25,716 --> 00:18:28,352
and if you have 6 new hires, I

550
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assume they're going to

551
00:18:30,454 --> 00:18:32,256
>> have a spot in a shift of

552
00:18:32,256 --> 00:18:33,570
their own. You'll still have

553
00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:34,325
people falling out sick.

554
00:18:34,325 --> 00:18:35,459
You'll still have people go

555
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into training. I mean, they're

556
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,760
not going to be sitting on the

557
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shelf. I wouldn't think to be.

558
00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:43,367
That actually that actually

559
00:18:43,367 --> 00:18:44,335
kind of the concept. The Esser

560
00:18:44,335 --> 00:18:45,360
is they will be in addition to

561
00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,272
we will not increase minimum

562
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staffing with these people.

563
00:18:48,207 --> 00:18:50,741
>> And that's why I in

564
00:18:50,741 --> 00:18:52,677
reference that rescue. 22,

565
00:18:52,677 --> 00:18:53,277
it's not minimum we staff so

566
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we don't required to be

567
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staffed. It's only staff want

568
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to have enough people. So if

569
00:18:56,881 --> 00:18:59,881
if certain people are off,

570
00:19:00,751 --> 00:19:01,352
then we don't staff that truck

571
00:19:01,352 --> 00:19:02,530
to reduce the amount of

572
00:19:02,530 --> 00:19:04,589
overtime I would I would have

573
00:19:04,589 --> 00:19:05,823
to pay overtime every day.

574
00:19:05,823 --> 00:19:06,557
Multiple spots every day to

575
00:19:06,557 --> 00:19:07,291
keep that truck in service. So

576
00:19:07,291 --> 00:19:11,280
this will help do that. But it

577
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:11,696
won't be. My minimum staffing

578
00:19:11,696 --> 00:19:12,664
right now is 18. It will

579
00:19:12,664 --> 00:19:14,866
remain 18. This will just be

580
00:19:14,866 --> 00:19:18,466
an extra person per shift. To

581
00:19:18,637 --> 00:19:22,237
help maintain that. And so it

582
00:19:23,474 --> 00:19:24,675
if 3 years from now that is

583
00:19:24,675 --> 00:19:27,675
their norm and what they're

584
00:19:28,380 --> 00:19:29,800
used to. Just can't Poland, 6

585
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,415
out of it to stick at the new

586
00:19:31,415 --> 00:19:32,250
station at that and say my.

587
00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:34,185
>> I mean, in concept back and

588
00:19:34,185 --> 00:19:35,686
see it. But then in can he's

589
00:19:35,686 --> 00:19:36,354
going to transfer the units

590
00:19:36,354 --> 00:19:39,354
air. They'll go with their

591
00:19:42,626 --> 00:19:43,727
units. The go with the truck 3

592
00:19:43,727 --> 00:19:44,395
years now. But the unit, we

593
00:19:44,395 --> 00:19:46,631
have the units, but they're

594
00:19:46,631 --> 00:19:48,399
just move them and that we not

595
00:19:48,399 --> 00:19:51,399
don't have a different Ask 3

596
00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:54,740
years from now for. A new

597
00:19:54,740 --> 00:19:55,608
truck for that outfit. A car

598
00:19:55,608 --> 00:19:58,800
truck into ambulance. We've

599
00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:01,120
already got. Yes, sir. To be

600
00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,347
asking for as we work to this.

601
00:20:02,347 --> 00:20:02,680
You have replacements to

602
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,680
those.

603
00:20:06,451 --> 00:20:09,921
>> As we go through it. So,

604
00:20:09,921 --> 00:20:11,122
Justin, talk a little bit the

605
00:20:11,122 --> 00:20:14,458
why. Because a lot of people

606
00:20:14,458 --> 00:20:15,293
when listening to us, are

607
00:20:15,293 --> 00:20:17,693
watching here. They don't

608
00:20:18,229 --> 00:20:20,229
really understand why

609
00:20:20,231 --> 00:20:21,466
sometimes. So we talk about

610
00:20:21,466 --> 00:20:23,801
who you're staffing. That one

611
00:20:23,801 --> 00:20:26,801
vehicle were there because you

612
00:20:28,373 --> 00:20:31,373
don't have enough staff. But

613
00:20:31,942 --> 00:20:32,677
on the same instance, we're

614
00:20:32,677 --> 00:20:33,311
running some level of overtime

615
00:20:33,311 --> 00:20:36,311
because you've got to an

616
00:20:36,314 --> 00:20:37,248
enormous amount of calls. So

617
00:20:37,248 --> 00:20:38,516
let's talk about those kind

618
00:20:38,516 --> 00:20:39,250
described the number of calls

619
00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:40,985
and what the how the increased

620
00:20:40,985 --> 00:20:43,985
over say the last 2 years,

621
00:20:44,923 --> 00:20:46,958
roughly yes or so.

622
00:20:46,958 --> 00:20:49,560
>> We actually an end 2021. We

623
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,661
ran about 7500 calls. That was

624
00:20:50,661 --> 00:20:52,630
during covid. It was obviously

625
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:54,132
a huge peak for us. It went

626
00:20:54,132 --> 00:20:56,132
from somewhere around 6800

627
00:20:57,435 --> 00:20:58,536
calls to that number. It

628
00:20:58,536 --> 00:21:00,104
dipped back down after that

629
00:21:00,104 --> 00:21:00,738
and we have climb back up. We

630
00:21:00,738 --> 00:21:04,338
are on track this year to

631
00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:08,130
around 7800 calls. Which is I

632
00:21:08,130 --> 00:21:08,379
think it's about 7, 7, or 8%

633
00:21:08,379 --> 00:21:10,379
increase.

634
00:21:13,180 --> 00:21:15,920
>> Over last year. So the call

635
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,588
and I don't anticipate that to

636
00:21:16,588 --> 00:21:17,322
slow down. You know, we see

637
00:21:17,322 --> 00:21:18,560
the community building. We see

638
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,560
the community growing and, you

639
00:21:22,961 --> 00:21:23,862
know, my my increased work in

640
00:21:23,862 --> 00:21:24,563
the community development

641
00:21:24,563 --> 00:21:25,297
department. I know that there

642
00:21:25,297 --> 00:21:27,697
are several other subdivisions

643
00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:30,202
coming in. And to your point,

644
00:21:30,202 --> 00:21:31,469
we know that all of those MAY

645
00:21:31,469 --> 00:21:32,337
increase our call volume and

646
00:21:32,337 --> 00:21:33,471
we work with those those

647
00:21:33,471 --> 00:21:35,540
developers as well to help try

648
00:21:35,540 --> 00:21:36,241
to fund some of these things

649
00:21:36,241 --> 00:21:37,876
up front. But the impact fees

650
00:21:37,876 --> 00:21:39,211
have changed that somewhat.

651
00:21:39,211 --> 00:21:40,612
But we do have some developer

652
00:21:40,612 --> 00:21:43,120
agreements in place already

653
00:21:43,915 --> 00:21:47,451
pre impact fee. That to help

654
00:21:47,451 --> 00:21:48,787
cover some of these costs.

655
00:21:48,787 --> 00:21:51,123
>> So if you so if you ended

656
00:21:51,123 --> 00:21:52,857
up having just go down the

657
00:21:52,857 --> 00:21:54,692
path to only had the ability

658
00:21:54,692 --> 00:21:55,294
to get 3 people out of the 6.

659
00:21:55,294 --> 00:21:58,294
What we do with those 3

660
00:22:02,330 --> 00:22:04,330
people.

661
00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:05,537
>> If I had to take 3 people,

662
00:22:05,537 --> 00:22:09,737
I I would still do the same.

663
00:22:09,941 --> 00:22:10,675
The adding to the the force

664
00:22:10,675 --> 00:22:13,675
and not the shift supervisors,

665
00:22:14,412 --> 00:22:15,414
but both of those are in

666
00:22:15,414 --> 00:22:17,282
extreme need for me. And I and

667
00:22:17,282 --> 00:22:18,384
I know everybody comes up here

668
00:22:18,384 --> 00:22:20,319
with extreme needs. You know,

669
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:22,554
nights and weekends, I don't

670
00:22:22,554 --> 00:22:24,356
have a supervisor able to go

671
00:22:24,356 --> 00:22:25,657
to the calls as they as or

672
00:22:25,657 --> 00:22:27,859
because they're assigned to

673
00:22:27,859 --> 00:22:29,895
fire truck. So if they're on a

674
00:22:29,895 --> 00:22:30,796
call and something critical

675
00:22:30,796 --> 00:22:32,630
comes in, they're not able to

676
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:32,730
respond to that. So 3, 8, 3,

677
00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:34,132
of these people would allow

678
00:22:34,132 --> 00:22:37,732
that person to being a truck

679
00:22:38,804 --> 00:22:41,540
by themself and respond as a

680
00:22:41,540 --> 00:22:42,274
supervisor to these major

681
00:22:42,274 --> 00:22:42,974
cause. That's what I'm getting

682
00:22:42,974 --> 00:22:44,420
to is I read this. There's 3

683
00:22:44,420 --> 00:22:46,420
people and there's 3.

684
00:22:46,311 --> 00:22:48,711
>> Lieutenant, yes, sir. And

685
00:22:51,183 --> 00:22:52,451
what what I'm trying to avoid.

686
00:22:52,451 --> 00:22:56,510
I'll quite frank you. And I

687
00:22:56,588 --> 00:22:57,289
talked today. I'm trying avoid

688
00:22:57,289 --> 00:22:57,923
building the hierarchy. That

689
00:22:57,923 --> 00:23:00,693
looks like an upside down

690
00:23:00,693 --> 00:23:01,960
triangle. Everybody

691
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,950
understands that when we get

692
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:06,731
to to have you at the top. The

693
00:23:06,731 --> 00:23:07,433
people down here below. You

694
00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:10,433
have a smaller number of

695
00:23:10,769 --> 00:23:11,569
people, so from a managerial

696
00:23:11,569 --> 00:23:13,969
standpoint, I think I

697
00:23:14,939 --> 00:23:17,339
understand where you're 3. The

698
00:23:17,376 --> 00:23:19,776
3 lieutenants are going to

699
00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:23,160
You're using them as managers

700
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:23,382
on each individual shifted my

701
00:23:23,382 --> 00:23:23,983
correct?

702
00:23:23,983 --> 00:23:24,649
>> Yes, sir. So they're

703
00:23:24,649 --> 00:23:26,318
actually going to take the

704
00:23:26,318 --> 00:23:27,953
place of my 3 ship captains.

705
00:23:27,953 --> 00:23:29,354
So the shift capital be on a

706
00:23:29,354 --> 00:23:30,550
truck could be a super the

707
00:23:30,550 --> 00:23:32,455
ship captain will oversee 3,

708
00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:33,291
4, lieutenants. Each

709
00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:35,291
lieutenant overseas 3 to 4

710
00:23:36,728 --> 00:23:38,730
other people. So span of

711
00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:42,330
control is well within the the

712
00:23:43,168 --> 00:23:44,437
even now outside of. Public

713
00:23:44,437 --> 00:23:45,370
safety. It's all within. Well,

714
00:23:45,370 --> 00:23:46,471
that's what I'm getting into.

715
00:23:46,471 --> 00:23:48,107
The right is I'm trying to get

716
00:23:48,107 --> 00:23:48,841
you to talk about your span of

717
00:23:48,841 --> 00:23:49,675
control. Yes, sir. That's what

718
00:23:49,675 --> 00:23:52,778
I'm after. Right now. Span of

719
00:23:52,778 --> 00:23:53,746
control to me is is an

720
00:23:53,746 --> 00:23:54,446
essential.

721
00:23:54,446 --> 00:23:56,150
>> Component of when you look

722
00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:57,682
at the number of people you're

723
00:23:57,682 --> 00:23:58,717
hiring is if I got a one to

724
00:23:58,717 --> 00:24:00,352
one ratio and that's not a

725
00:24:00,352 --> 00:24:01,420
good span of control. Yes,

726
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:03,756
sir. Now I don't know from

727
00:24:03,756 --> 00:24:04,656
afar. Stand when I just I know

728
00:24:04,656 --> 00:24:05,324
previous history and the

729
00:24:05,324 --> 00:24:07,724
previous history, some time

730
00:24:08,327 --> 00:24:09,280
serve you correctly that are

731
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,960
span of control. At one time

732
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,696
was an 8 to one ratio prayed.

733
00:24:15,401 --> 00:24:18,637
So that MAY not be applicable.

734
00:24:18,637 --> 00:24:19,371
In a fire rescue scenario.

735
00:24:19,371 --> 00:24:20,380
Yes, sir. So what's your span?

736
00:24:20,380 --> 00:24:23,800
The span of control in the

737
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:23,676
fire rescue standpoint.

738
00:24:23,676 --> 00:24:26,760
>> 3 to 3 to 6 is standard

739
00:24:27,460 --> 00:24:28,180
throughout the industry. And I

740
00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:28,815
said where we will be at that

741
00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:30,850
3 to 4, depending on what

742
00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:31,550
shifter station they're at and

743
00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:35,150
also keep in mind that these

744
00:24:35,187 --> 00:24:36,155
are. It's more like a crew

745
00:24:36,155 --> 00:24:39,240
leader. You know, so these

746
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:39,992
these crews go off. It's not

747
00:24:39,992 --> 00:24:40,692
they're not sitting in an

748
00:24:40,692 --> 00:24:43,920
office where they're able

749
00:24:43,195 --> 00:24:44,930
supervise multiple people.

750
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:45,598
They're all supervising a crew

751
00:24:45,598 --> 00:24:49,100
full crew and then the ship

752
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:49,735
captain is supervising all of

753
00:24:49,735 --> 00:24:51,837
the crews. And then all 3 ship

754
00:24:51,837 --> 00:24:52,271
captains report back to the

755
00:24:52,271 --> 00:24:52,871
deputy chief.

756
00:24:52,871 --> 00:24:54,674
>> So you have 3 ships,

757
00:24:54,674 --> 00:24:57,740
captains. And the shift.

758
00:24:59,711 --> 00:25:01,814
Captain. Support time of the

759
00:25:01,814 --> 00:25:03,515
lieutenants for for yes a

760
00:25:03,515 --> 00:25:06,185
lieutenant as as a lieutenant,

761
00:25:06,185 --> 00:25:07,853
as for say how many people

762
00:25:07,853 --> 00:25:10,253
support 3 to 4 remaining their

763
00:25:12,858 --> 00:25:14,827
stations all right. So I we

764
00:25:14,827 --> 00:25:16,528
were going to see these charts

765
00:25:16,528 --> 00:25:17,496
appear what we just showed

766
00:25:17,496 --> 00:25:18,197
that there's a on the

767
00:25:18,197 --> 00:25:19,498
personnel services like that

768
00:25:19,498 --> 00:25:21,133
are almost with a 14%

769
00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:21,767
increase. Is that is that

770
00:25:21,767 --> 00:25:22,368
Epps? Is that correct or

771
00:25:22,368 --> 00:25:23,350
incorrect? That one is

772
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:26,350
correct. Yes, sir. That is

773
00:25:27,406 --> 00:25:29,806
correct. Commissioner to color

774
00:25:31,844 --> 00:25:33,779
where you finish. Yeah. Just

775
00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:34,413
trying to keep I didn't know.

776
00:25:34,413 --> 00:25:38,130
What do you like? He has

777
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520
something on trying to keep

778
00:25:53,299 --> 00:25:53,966
>> anyone else. Going go to

779
00:25:53,966 --> 00:25:56,369
ship. And so what pages at

780
00:25:56,369 --> 00:25:58,337
dawn today?

781
00:25:58,337 --> 00:26:01,337
>> Just a couple pages after

782
00:26:02,608 --> 00:26:05,608
our rescue, showbiz on 205, To

783
00:26:08,948 --> 00:26:11,617
own okay, MR. Chair. So as

784
00:26:11,617 --> 00:26:12,318
that conversation done, wars,

785
00:26:12,318 --> 00:26:13,953
that's something that's going

786
00:26:13,953 --> 00:26:18,153
to be part of a Friday. Part

787
00:26:19,291 --> 00:26:20,920
of a Friday. Time I'm sorry,

788
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,427
MISS. And time to give us a

789
00:26:21,427 --> 00:26:22,162
minute pace we need. You need

790
00:26:22,162 --> 00:26:23,796
to decide which way you want

791
00:26:23,796 --> 00:26:24,429
to go with it so we can give

792
00:26:24,429 --> 00:26:25,131
direction.

793
00:26:25,131 --> 00:26:26,650
>> If you want roll back with

794
00:26:26,650 --> 00:26:29,665
a different number, need to do

795
00:26:33,172 --> 00:26:34,306
that. Now. Otherwise they have

796
00:26:34,306 --> 00:26:35,400
nothing to bring back Friday

797
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,641
and that should give direction

798
00:26:35,641 --> 00:26:37,576
on what you what you're

799
00:26:37,576 --> 00:26:39,576
looking to do.

800
00:26:39,679 --> 00:26:40,847
>> Well, I wasn't sure if

801
00:26:40,847 --> 00:26:41,514
Commissioner Burrows, he had

802
00:26:41,514 --> 00:26:42,315
asked the question about if

803
00:26:42,315 --> 00:26:43,282
you could only have 3 and that

804
00:26:43,282 --> 00:26:44,750
seemed like a leading

805
00:26:44,750 --> 00:26:48,350
question. So I didn't know if

806
00:26:48,388 --> 00:26:48,888
if if we just get past it or

807
00:26:48,888 --> 00:26:49,522
not?

808
00:26:49,522 --> 00:26:52,522
>> No, I'm I'm trying to

809
00:26:53,392 --> 00:26:54,393
ascertain the. Can just be

810
00:26:54,393 --> 00:26:55,280
quite frankly. I'm trying to

811
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,280
ascertain the the span of

812
00:26:58,731 --> 00:27:01,731
control. And the issue boils

813
00:27:03,369 --> 00:27:04,870
down to is you know, we're

814
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:05,571
adding quarter 6 people and

815
00:27:05,571 --> 00:27:08,441
what I I had the conversation

816
00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:09,542
with Justin earlier is that.

817
00:27:09,542 --> 00:27:10,243
Given the fact that we're at a

818
00:27:10,243 --> 00:27:12,645
point now that we don't know

819
00:27:12,645 --> 00:27:15,645
what. Everybody looks at as

820
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,840
about adding people adding

821
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,418
cost weather is arm or whether

822
00:27:19,418 --> 00:27:22,418
it's a special assessment they

823
00:27:23,189 --> 00:27:23,922
look at is from the standpoint

824
00:27:23,922 --> 00:27:27,226
are you doing the right things

825
00:27:27,226 --> 00:27:27,894
for the community? And when we

826
00:27:27,894 --> 00:27:30,894
take take that approach to

827
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,199
say? We're expanding the

828
00:27:35,401 --> 00:27:36,102
number that were expended were

829
00:27:36,102 --> 00:27:37,736
having more coal or were on a

830
00:27:37,736 --> 00:27:40,706
We're track to have more calls

831
00:27:40,706 --> 00:27:42,608
and whether or not they have

832
00:27:42,608 --> 00:27:43,809
to transport somebody, you

833
00:27:43,809 --> 00:27:44,577
don't transport somebody.

834
00:27:44,577 --> 00:27:45,344
That's immaterial to me. That

835
00:27:45,344 --> 00:27:48,944
means have to have a somebody

836
00:27:50,350 --> 00:27:51,717
to roll with Trump. So if have

837
00:27:51,717 --> 00:27:54,717
3 people, if you put 3 people

838
00:27:54,721 --> 00:27:55,755
out there, does that help you

839
00:27:55,755 --> 00:27:58,155
with your overtime? Obviously,

840
00:27:58,691 --> 00:28:00,940
6 people don't help you with

841
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:00,794
overtime because of Henri said

842
00:28:00,794 --> 00:28:02,262
that that doesn't it's not a

843
00:28:02,262 --> 00:28:05,262
wash. Do listen. 50% of the

844
00:28:05,965 --> 00:28:09,636
cost. So my point that this is

845
00:28:09,636 --> 00:28:10,670
just that. We've got to be

846
00:28:10,670 --> 00:28:13,306
very cognizant as a toll just

847
00:28:13,306 --> 00:28:14,600
in this morning that said

848
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,809
potentially what we should do

849
00:28:16,809 --> 00:28:20,213
is maybe wait on these people.

850
00:28:20,213 --> 00:28:22,882
Tunnel member. And my thought

851
00:28:22,882 --> 00:28:24,850
was who is focused on? Trying

852
00:28:24,850 --> 00:28:26,520
to prepare for the future on

853
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,855
the building them there. So

854
00:28:28,855 --> 00:28:30,823
you asked a question. He

855
00:28:30,823 --> 00:28:31,825
answered it a three-year time

856
00:28:31,825 --> 00:28:35,425
frame and I was going to

857
00:28:35,495 --> 00:28:36,162
continue with that. I didn't.

858
00:28:36,162 --> 00:28:36,862
You jump to the next one, I

859
00:28:36,862 --> 00:28:38,865
didn't realize we were done

860
00:28:38,865 --> 00:28:39,733
with that one. So I apologize

861
00:28:39,733 --> 00:28:42,733
to that you're standing up

862
00:28:42,768 --> 00:28:43,436
there, but I wasn't quite

863
00:28:43,436 --> 00:28:45,572
through. Can we that police

864
00:28:45,572 --> 00:28:46,639
have I'm sorry about that? We

865
00:28:46,639 --> 00:28:47,707
jumped and I didn't realize we

866
00:28:47,707 --> 00:28:48,608
were jumping. Okay, because I

867
00:28:48,608 --> 00:28:50,877
still have a couple additional

868
00:28:50,877 --> 00:28:51,244
questions. But Please

869
00:28:51,244 --> 00:28:51,945
continue.

870
00:28:51,945 --> 00:28:54,681
>> So that was the point that

871
00:28:54,681 --> 00:28:56,749
when you asked a question.

872
00:28:56,749 --> 00:28:59,149
There's 3 years a three-year

873
00:28:59,486 --> 00:29:00,186
time frame. Can we wait until

874
00:29:00,186 --> 00:29:03,156
the three-year time frame for

875
00:29:03,156 --> 00:29:03,857
adding new people? If we're

876
00:29:03,857 --> 00:29:07,930
looking only just to focus on

877
00:29:07,930 --> 00:29:10,930
the future. That's one point.

878
00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:11,898
The second point is that his

879
00:29:11,898 --> 00:29:12,599
commentary was that not only

880
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,599
were looking for the future,

881
00:29:15,835 --> 00:29:16,536
but he's looking to figure out

882
00:29:16,536 --> 00:29:20,136
how to reduce the number the

883
00:29:21,541 --> 00:29:23,176
amount of overtime now. So

884
00:29:23,176 --> 00:29:25,440
it's people working to fire a

885
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,446
correctly think has said the

886
00:29:26,446 --> 00:29:28,446
62 hours averaging you're

887
00:29:28,882 --> 00:29:30,951
averaging 62 ours. Yes, sir.

888
00:29:30,951 --> 00:29:31,251
He's averaging 62 hours a

889
00:29:31,251 --> 00:29:32,652
week.

890
00:29:32,652 --> 00:29:35,652
>> 8 hours of overtime for man

891
00:29:35,888 --> 00:29:37,888
right? So

892
00:29:38,925 --> 00:29:41,325
>> are we looking to?

893
00:29:42,695 --> 00:29:43,363
According Burn out. A crew

894
00:29:43,363 --> 00:29:44,765
which we do not want write

895
00:29:44,765 --> 00:29:48,365
that we don't want to do.

896
00:29:49,736 --> 00:29:50,970
>> Vs. Brazen attacks, but

897
00:29:50,970 --> 00:29:51,704
raising the ems or fire ems

898
00:29:51,704 --> 00:29:55,304
tax in order to compensate for

899
00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:59,613
that. The point was, is that

900
00:29:59,613 --> 00:30:02,130
what's more important? Right

901
00:30:02,649 --> 00:30:03,350
at the present time

902
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:04,170
lieutenants what's more

903
00:30:04,170 --> 00:30:07,170
important right now is not

904
00:30:08,655 --> 00:30:09,356
burning the crew out. It

905
00:30:09,356 --> 00:30:12,356
services. If you this service

906
00:30:13,528 --> 00:30:15,396
calls are expanding. Now give

907
00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:16,130
We're I'm thinking just

908
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,565
written and I know some of the

909
00:30:18,565 --> 00:30:21,565
stuff is hypothetical. I just

910
00:30:22,135 --> 00:30:24,437
read another planning board.

911
00:30:24,437 --> 00:30:26,437
Petition last night, 192

912
00:30:33,647 --> 00:30:35,810
homes. 32nd. It's not include

913
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:35,749
is collusive of some of the

914
00:30:35,749 --> 00:30:37,749
other smaller developments.

915
00:30:38,919 --> 00:30:39,552
300 homes is other. How how

916
00:30:39,552 --> 00:30:41,952
quickly they're going to

917
00:30:43,657 --> 00:30:44,357
build. Who knows. But we do

918
00:30:44,357 --> 00:30:45,580
know there are some going to

919
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:47,270
be built very shortly because

920
00:30:47,270 --> 00:30:50,397
as we saw in the building

921
00:30:50,397 --> 00:30:51,531
permit process on MAY. I had

922
00:30:51,531 --> 00:30:53,931
170 something. Plus cool. In

923
00:30:55,935 --> 00:30:59,535
one month. Versus what I had

924
00:30:59,806 --> 00:31:02,409
17480, whole year. So we start

925
00:31:02,409 --> 00:31:05,409
thinking through this. I can

926
00:31:05,512 --> 00:31:08,512
almost understand. Why we need

927
00:31:10,490 --> 00:31:10,783
to put these people. To reduce

928
00:31:10,783 --> 00:31:12,953
the number of people are the

929
00:31:12,953 --> 00:31:16,553
overtime going work. So it MAY

930
00:31:16,556 --> 00:31:18,240
not be a total wash. But it it

931
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,961
helps it helps. All right. So

932
00:31:20,961 --> 00:31:21,662
that's where I was at. When I

933
00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:24,662
asked all those questions to

934
00:31:26,466 --> 00:31:28,335
him. To talk about the number

935
00:31:28,335 --> 00:31:30,970
of Kohl's. What it does to his

936
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:33,600
people and how it helps the

937
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:33,874
people today and get away with

938
00:31:33,874 --> 00:31:35,874
thinking about moving 2, 3,

939
00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:36,777
years down the road because

940
00:31:36,777 --> 00:31:37,911
I'm not going think about 2 in

941
00:31:37,911 --> 00:31:40,881
3 years down the road. Think

942
00:31:40,881 --> 00:31:43,281
about NOVEMBER. 4th through

943
00:31:43,650 --> 00:31:44,584
8th or whatever. Data that is

944
00:31:44,584 --> 00:31:46,186
when somebody comes up with

945
00:31:46,186 --> 00:31:47,254
with voters start coming up

946
00:31:47,254 --> 00:31:50,254
and we don't want property

947
00:31:50,924 --> 00:31:52,193
tax. That's in my mind today.

948
00:31:52,193 --> 00:31:55,193
About everything that we do

949
00:31:57,297 --> 00:32:00,297
from from. In this budget

950
00:32:00,734 --> 00:32:02,202
process that to reduce costs.

951
00:32:02,202 --> 00:32:02,936
Every single time. Somebody

952
00:32:02,936 --> 00:32:05,939
comes up in front of us, we're

953
00:32:05,939 --> 00:32:06,606
going to reduce cost unless

954
00:32:06,606 --> 00:32:10,206
they have a valid reason to

955
00:32:10,444 --> 00:32:11,578
increase the cost. And then

956
00:32:11,578 --> 00:32:12,245
invest dollar reason. Maybe

957
00:32:12,245 --> 00:32:14,645
the physical attribute the

958
00:32:16,150 --> 00:32:16,850
employees that we have. That's

959
00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:19,252
that's that's kind of where I

960
00:32:19,252 --> 00:32:20,387
was going. And that is that is

961
00:32:20,387 --> 00:32:23,230
one side of the coin. And it's

962
00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:24,191
certainly a good one.

963
00:32:24,191 --> 00:32:25,625
>> But then if in the same

964
00:32:25,625 --> 00:32:27,427
breath, we say those 6 will be

965
00:32:27,427 --> 00:32:27,761
for the new fire station in 3

966
00:32:27,761 --> 00:32:29,761
years.

967
00:32:29,931 --> 00:32:33,531
>> That goes back to my point.

968
00:32:35,302 --> 00:32:35,970
If they are needed. To keep us

969
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:37,904
from having the overtime to

970
00:32:37,904 --> 00:32:38,872
keep from burning out. The

971
00:32:38,872 --> 00:32:39,973
current employees, then

972
00:32:39,973 --> 00:32:42,176
they're going to still be

973
00:32:42,176 --> 00:32:44,211
needed there 3 years from now

974
00:32:44,211 --> 00:32:46,790
when the new fire station you

975
00:32:46,790 --> 00:32:47,148
move just says to the building

976
00:32:47,148 --> 00:32:47,882
and apparatus, we're just

977
00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:48,616
getting the running because we

978
00:32:48,616 --> 00:32:49,316
don't currently have it staff.

979
00:32:49,316 --> 00:32:51,518
But if you staff and with

980
00:32:51,518 --> 00:32:51,886
this, then they go to the new

981
00:32:51,886 --> 00:32:53,886
building.

982
00:32:54,821 --> 00:32:55,689
>> So so think about this. I

983
00:32:55,689 --> 00:32:58,689
have an apparatus. That's it

984
00:32:59,593 --> 00:33:00,628
This is we're just go We have

985
00:33:00,628 --> 00:33:02,329
an apparatus sitting here in

986
00:33:02,329 --> 00:33:02,996
this not being used, right,

987
00:33:02,996 --> 00:33:05,996
because we'll have a staff

988
00:33:06,733 --> 00:33:09,436
report. It could be this. If I

989
00:33:09,436 --> 00:33:10,237
had staffing, then that would

990
00:33:10,237 --> 00:33:10,971
help reduce reduce the number

991
00:33:10,971 --> 00:33:12,573
of hours or potential overtime

992
00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:15,543
hours that I I could be

993
00:33:15,543 --> 00:33:17,445
running things. So that new

994
00:33:17,445 --> 00:33:18,512
building its new fire station

995
00:33:18,512 --> 00:33:21,415
gets built. I think this

996
00:33:21,415 --> 00:33:23,116
apparatus, those people move

997
00:33:23,116 --> 00:33:26,116
it there. And if that

998
00:33:27,888 --> 00:33:29,888
>> promise certain.

999
00:33:31,825 --> 00:33:33,260
>> When we didn't want let me

1000
00:33:33,260 --> 00:33:33,994
that's not the only thing

1001
00:33:33,994 --> 00:33:34,728
you're gonna have to move

1002
00:33:34,728 --> 00:33:37,128
there because those 6 people

1003
00:33:37,231 --> 00:33:37,932
are not gonna be a full

1004
00:33:37,932 --> 00:33:38,633
complement. So in the next x

1005
00:33:38,633 --> 00:33:41,633
amount of years, you're going

1006
00:33:43,370 --> 00:33:45,272
to have to have. X. Plus, y.

1007
00:33:45,272 --> 00:33:45,939
Yeah, I just want make sure

1008
00:33:45,939 --> 00:33:47,875
you understood get all that

1009
00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:51,475
part. It's it's the aches. Its

1010
00:33:51,645 --> 00:33:52,346
the x. As of now.

1011
00:33:52,346 --> 00:33:53,130
>> And if it's an additional

1012
00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:55,413
crew running in additional

1013
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:58,850
truck. And somebody calls out

1014
00:33:58,850 --> 00:33:58,752
sick, you're still going to

1015
00:33:58,752 --> 00:34:01,722
have overtime on that other

1016
00:34:01,722 --> 00:34:02,290
crew. So I don't I know that

1017
00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:02,957
on paper. This should

1018
00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,357
alleviate the overtime Nano

1019
00:34:06,193 --> 00:34:07,328
will to some degree. But if

1020
00:34:07,328 --> 00:34:08,280
they are staff to be doing a

1021
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,331
job and there's base beer for

1022
00:34:11,331 --> 00:34:12,330
their 54 hours and some of the

1023
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:12,768
calls out you're still going

1024
00:34:12,768 --> 00:34:14,101
to have over time. You're just

1025
00:34:14,101 --> 00:34:14,701
gonna have been 4 spots and

1026
00:34:14,701 --> 00:34:15,369
said the 3 spots ensure

1027
00:34:15,369 --> 00:34:18,969
Manning a 4th crew. I'm not

1028
00:34:20,641 --> 00:34:22,477
seeing that room. Try to it. I

1029
00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:24,312
think for staffing 3 vehicles.

1030
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,120
Now this is going to allow us

1031
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,680
to staff for vehicles, right,

1032
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,160
which we will do. And then all

1033
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,683
4 will be available if anybody

1034
00:34:29,683 --> 00:34:33,283
calls out for many of those

1035
00:34:33,487 --> 00:34:34,550
crews. You still have an

1036
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:34,789
overtime is just in 4

1037
00:34:34,789 --> 00:34:37,591
different spots now instead of

1038
00:34:37,591 --> 00:34:39,591
3 different spots, CHAIRMAN.

1039
00:34:41,562 --> 00:34:42,263
>> So the you're here, you're

1040
00:34:42,263 --> 00:34:43,764
in your stereo there. The 4th

1041
00:34:43,764 --> 00:34:44,499
one is not going to be

1042
00:34:44,499 --> 00:34:47,635
mandatory field. So it will be

1043
00:34:47,635 --> 00:34:49,638
filled when we're staffed.

1044
00:34:49,638 --> 00:34:50,638
When people call call out sick

1045
00:34:50,638 --> 00:34:54,708
or are off, it won't. We won't

1046
00:34:54,708 --> 00:34:55,442
have that truck available.

1047
00:34:55,442 --> 00:34:56,343
>> And those people that would

1048
00:34:56,343 --> 00:34:58,743
have been scheduled for

1049
00:34:59,246 --> 00:34:59,947
Wednesday on that rope. We'll

1050
00:34:59,947 --> 00:35:02,182
just fade into the other ones

1051
00:35:02,182 --> 00:35:02,883
to help out or

1052
00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:04,818
>> they'll go home. They they

1053
00:35:04,818 --> 00:35:05,486
would not be there. I mean,

1054
00:35:05,486 --> 00:35:08,486
there's only 2 people on a

1055
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,260
truck. So. If I had one extra

1056
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:12,993
person yet they would

1057
00:35:12,993 --> 00:35:15,763
generally what we do is we put

1058
00:35:15,763 --> 00:35:16,564
them on a 3rd person. Our

1059
00:35:16,564 --> 00:35:17,265
rescue, and that reduces

1060
00:35:17,265 --> 00:35:17,931
amount of times that my fire

1061
00:35:17,931 --> 00:35:21,531
engine has to go with that.

1062
00:35:21,802 --> 00:35:23,400
Trump on certain calls.

1063
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:23,771
>> Filling the gaps and a new

1064
00:35:23,771 --> 00:35:24,472
she is obviously way above my

1065
00:35:24,472 --> 00:35:26,840
head. And you certainly know

1066
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,641
what you're doing there. I'm

1067
00:35:27,641 --> 00:35:28,375
just trying to look at it. If

1068
00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:30,778
I was on the other side of

1069
00:35:30,778 --> 00:35:31,345
that camera watching I'm

1070
00:35:31,345 --> 00:35:32,179
trying to get as much

1071
00:35:32,179 --> 00:35:34,579
explanation out there as

1072
00:35:35,149 --> 00:35:37,149
possible.

1073
00:35:38,286 --> 00:35:39,454
>> And and our our call volume

1074
00:35:39,454 --> 00:35:40,200
has increased commissioner

1075
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,200
versus current. We're

1076
00:35:42,423 --> 00:35:44,240
currently experiencing it. So

1077
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:44,726
it's not a matter Not that we

1078
00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:46,260
anticipated 3 years from now.

1079
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:46,727
We anticipate a new station 3

1080
00:35:46,727 --> 00:35:48,529
years now because that's how

1081
00:35:48,529 --> 00:35:50,331
long it takes to build it. But

1082
00:35:50,331 --> 00:35:51,198
the call volume has increased

1083
00:35:51,198 --> 00:35:53,330
currently. So this will allow

1084
00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:57,233
me to keep that extra truck in

1085
00:35:57,406 --> 00:35:58,730
service. More often than not.

1086
00:35:58,730 --> 00:35:59,373
But it will also reduce the

1087
00:35:59,373 --> 00:36:01,509
over time because I won't

1088
00:36:01,509 --> 00:36:02,644
require when the news stations

1089
00:36:02,644 --> 00:36:03,745
built it will be required. I

1090
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:04,745
will have to and I regret and

1091
00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:05,479
I fully understand that point.

1092
00:36:05,479 --> 00:36:08,382
We have a new station. We have

1093
00:36:08,382 --> 00:36:09,483
to staff that new station and

1094
00:36:09,483 --> 00:36:10,152
that

1095
00:36:10,152 --> 00:36:10,852
>> increasing employees is

1096
00:36:10,852 --> 00:36:12,620
going to got off of that year

1097
00:36:12,620 --> 00:36:14,620
everybody is going

1098
00:36:16,991 --> 00:36:18,226
>> Theres going to be on as a

1099
00:36:18,226 --> 00:36:19,593
result separated.

1100
00:36:19,593 --> 00:36:21,329
>> You don't have a stud, but

1101
00:36:21,329 --> 00:36:22,263
i tell there's a around fire

1102
00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:25,330
here. So you do have something

1103
00:36:25,330 --> 00:36:27,568
from. But you catch me from

1104
00:36:27,568 --> 00:36:28,236
behind from a buzzer separated

1105
00:36:28,236 --> 00:36:28,903
for because there you can't

1106
00:36:28,903 --> 00:36:31,806
just combine all that stuff

1107
00:36:31,806 --> 00:36:33,806
together.

1108
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:35,710
>> But the new station versus.

1109
00:36:35,710 --> 00:36:37,312
>> The fixed. The expanded

1110
00:36:37,312 --> 00:36:40,912
number of calls. And I don't

1111
00:36:41,783 --> 00:36:43,884
think that was clear. Wasn't

1112
00:36:43,884 --> 00:36:45,119
going out and clear until

1113
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,822
asked him talk about. And I

1114
00:36:47,822 --> 00:36:49,857
certainly feel better about it

1115
00:36:49,857 --> 00:36:51,792
now than I But I worried about

1116
00:36:51,792 --> 00:36:52,526
was and I realize that fire

1117
00:36:52,526 --> 00:36:53,227
and ems are not part of the of

1118
00:36:53,227 --> 00:36:53,828
the warm. So we kind of have

1119
00:36:53,828 --> 00:36:55,764
to have that out mind.

1120
00:36:55,764 --> 00:36:58,764
>> But if we're looking holy

1121
00:36:59,330 --> 00:37:01,433
at a tax bill

1122
00:37:03,337 --> 00:37:05,374
>> For the people who are our

1123
00:37:05,374 --> 00:37:06,909
>> That number goes up every

1124
00:37:06,909 --> 00:37:08,610
single year. Goes up at a

1125
00:37:08,610 --> 00:37:10,312
faster rate than waste

1126
00:37:10,312 --> 00:37:11,447
management. And I realize that

1127
00:37:11,447 --> 00:37:13,847
there's more people requires

1128
00:37:16,251 --> 00:37:18,651
more firemen, more. It's.

1129
00:37:20,355 --> 00:37:21,220
Nothing ever goes down. Seems

1130
00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:24,622
to continue to go up looked

1131
00:37:25,961 --> 00:37:26,794
down. Sate 6 new employees.

1132
00:37:26,794 --> 00:37:27,495
>> And before this

1133
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:30,495
conversation, I look in 6 new

1134
00:37:31,866 --> 00:37:33,768
employees. Well, if times get

1135
00:37:33,768 --> 00:37:37,371
lean and we have to thin the

1136
00:37:37,371 --> 00:37:39,240
herd, GOD forbid. That's

1137
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,175
that's a lot more difficult

1138
00:37:41,175 --> 00:37:42,543
then. Just grit your teeth

1139
00:37:42,543 --> 00:37:43,178
again. Pretty this

1140
00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:45,178
conversation that's more

1141
00:37:46,381 --> 00:37:47,810
difficult. Then grit your

1142
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:50,418
teeth and doing it with less

1143
00:37:50,418 --> 00:37:53,418
people. Now. Other thing in

1144
00:37:54,255 --> 00:37:55,423
this, this honest in truth, we

1145
00:37:55,423 --> 00:37:56,323
hired some of the new of fire

1146
00:37:56,323 --> 00:37:56,958
and ems. That is a person

1147
00:37:56,958 --> 00:37:57,925
who's going to get a 5.8%

1148
00:37:57,925 --> 00:38:00,925
raise every year. Whether we

1149
00:38:01,596 --> 00:38:02,463
like it or not, because the

1150
00:38:02,463 --> 00:38:05,463
union contract. So we also

1151
00:38:06,467 --> 00:38:08,369
have be mindful of that. At

1152
00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:09,671
7%, something doubles every 10

1153
00:38:09,671 --> 00:38:12,341
years. So it takes roughly 12

1154
00:38:12,341 --> 00:38:13,541
and a half at 6%. A double. So

1155
00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:14,243
every person you hire unless

1156
00:38:14,243 --> 00:38:16,278
you eventually fired in which

1157
00:38:16,278 --> 00:38:19,748
we don't want to do. That

1158
00:38:19,748 --> 00:38:20,415
salaries. Double. And 12

1159
00:38:20,415 --> 00:38:21,916
years. And if any of us are

1160
00:38:21,916 --> 00:38:22,883
still sitting here, think

1161
00:38:22,883 --> 00:38:25,853
about that number that time.

1162
00:38:25,853 --> 00:38:28,853
So. I know that small-ball

1163
00:38:30,692 --> 00:38:32,360
thinking. If really step back

1164
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,295
and look at it, it's not. So

1165
00:38:33,295 --> 00:38:36,295
every employee that we take

1166
00:38:38,366 --> 00:38:39,100
there is a 6% guaranteed year.

1167
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:39,734
And that doesn't include fica.

1168
00:38:39,734 --> 00:38:42,134
And that doesn't include

1169
00:38:42,737 --> 00:38:43,437
insurance and all that. So

1170
00:38:43,437 --> 00:38:46,574
looking at got a mighty look

1171
00:38:46,574 --> 00:38:47,675
at our tax bill. I'm just

1172
00:38:47,675 --> 00:38:49,311
trying to make sure we don't

1173
00:38:49,311 --> 00:38:50,460
put our self and I know that

1174
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:50,678
it's not ad valorem, but it is

1175
00:38:50,678 --> 00:38:53,780
still something that our

1176
00:38:53,482 --> 00:38:54,416
people pay. And I just want to

1177
00:38:54,416 --> 00:38:56,816
be transparent, mindful as

1178
00:38:56,951 --> 00:38:59,210
possible. Not to let that

1179
00:38:59,210 --> 00:39:00,856
number get. So insurmountable

1180
00:39:00,856 --> 00:39:03,856
that that. There's nothing we

1181
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:06,610
can do about it.

1182
00:39:06,610 --> 00:39:06,761
>> I appreciate your

1183
00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:07,395
conversation because I think

1184
00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:09,795
that's necessary for the

1185
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:14,933
public. I'll add to this rose

1186
00:39:16,371 --> 00:39:17,390
to 2 core services. So let's

1187
00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:19,439
assume that NOVEMBER, they

1188
00:39:20,909 --> 00:39:21,777
pass this amendment. For

1189
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,777
services or what you're going

1190
00:39:26,181 --> 00:39:27,349
to be funding tax. These with.

1191
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:28,490
And then you'll have your

1192
00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:30,449
special assessments over here

1193
00:39:31,285 --> 00:39:32,321
on the other side, a core

1194
00:39:32,321 --> 00:39:34,656
services as we sit here today

1195
00:39:34,656 --> 00:39:37,656
is defined as public safety.

1196
00:39:40,162 --> 00:39:42,970
So we talk about. Hypothetical

1197
00:39:42,970 --> 00:39:42,798
Wells, as you talk about as we

1198
00:39:42,798 --> 00:39:46,267
move into the future, we come

1199
00:39:46,267 --> 00:39:49,805
down. We have downturn in the

1200
00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:50,539
economy and we don't sending

1201
00:39:50,539 --> 00:39:51,906
her does I think is your usage

1202
00:39:51,906 --> 00:39:52,573
of of of laying people off?

1203
00:39:52,573 --> 00:39:56,173
The one thing you would not

1204
00:39:56,545 --> 00:39:58,613
do. He wouldn't do Notley and

1205
00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:02,213
law enforcement. In a fire and

1206
00:40:04,887 --> 00:40:05,520
ems person. You'll play off of

1207
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,254
the people before you get

1208
00:40:06,254 --> 00:40:08,790
relative to whatever passes in

1209
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:11,190
NOVEMBER. Because those are

1210
00:40:11,426 --> 00:40:14,426
core services. Which is why

1211
00:40:14,830 --> 00:40:15,564
you cannot lay them off once

1212
00:40:15,564 --> 00:40:16,465
you've hired them. You realize

1213
00:40:16,465 --> 00:40:18,865
you're making it permanent.

1214
00:40:20,502 --> 00:40:21,303
>> For ever higher of those 6

1215
00:40:21,303 --> 00:40:22,400
additional people held today

1216
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,604
for the we build that station

1217
00:40:26,141 --> 00:40:28,143
years from now or not. That's

1218
00:40:28,143 --> 00:40:29,770
true. Very true. And tears and

1219
00:40:29,770 --> 00:40:31,347
that's to reason want to have

1220
00:40:31,347 --> 00:40:34,347
this discussion more in detail

1221
00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:36,251
to make people understand that

1222
00:40:36,251 --> 00:40:36,953
this is not about the news

1223
00:40:36,953 --> 00:40:39,521
station. This is about making

1224
00:40:39,521 --> 00:40:41,523
sure that we have. Group of

1225
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:44,523
people that are confident and

1226
00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:48,663
not burned out. And based on

1227
00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:49,331
the fact of the number of

1228
00:40:49,331 --> 00:40:52,301
calls and then a number of

1229
00:40:52,301 --> 00:40:52,968
things because ultimate, you

1230
00:40:52,968 --> 00:40:55,537
heard you heard what I said

1231
00:40:55,537 --> 00:40:56,305
the first day of this.

1232
00:40:56,305 --> 00:40:56,938
CHAIRMAN. I have a really

1233
00:40:56,938 --> 00:40:58,938
interesting debate about

1234
00:41:00,976 --> 00:41:01,610
mileage rates. Cut taxes

1235
00:41:01,610 --> 00:41:04,610
somewhere one way or the

1236
00:41:07,883 --> 00:41:09,418
other. Some people going to be

1237
00:41:09,418 --> 00:41:10,510
unhappy. Applauded the bocc

1238
00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:12,510
county administrator for

1239
00:41:12,988 --> 00:41:13,656
coming in 4%. Good people

1240
00:41:13,656 --> 00:41:15,858
didn't didn't pay attention

1241
00:41:15,858 --> 00:41:16,459
that I got some people that

1242
00:41:16,459 --> 00:41:18,859
come. But 4%, which was

1243
00:41:19,294 --> 00:41:21,694
appreciated. And that's reason

1244
00:41:22,231 --> 00:41:23,699
asked him about the 14%.

1245
00:41:23,699 --> 00:41:26,699
Because we have to validate

1246
00:41:28,103 --> 00:41:28,837
while we're doing that. If

1247
00:41:28,837 --> 00:41:30,639
you're if you're taking a look

1248
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:31,373
at this pro approach that

1249
00:41:31,373 --> 00:41:32,730
we're taking on these on these

1250
00:41:32,730 --> 00:41:34,473
particular things, like, for

1251
00:41:35,711 --> 00:41:38,681
example, we got. In 2021 to

1252
00:41:38,681 --> 00:41:40,683
level say 2021 at 7500 calls a

1253
00:41:40,683 --> 00:41:43,683
bit into down. 26 years. 68 or

1254
00:41:44,352 --> 00:41:46,352
7800. That's 300 calls. 7, 6

1255
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:49,691
year period. But we do have a

1256
00:41:49,691 --> 00:41:52,691
gross very much in that

1257
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:55,364
either. So now we're seeing is

1258
00:41:55,364 --> 00:41:56,232
that we're going to have to

1259
00:41:56,232 --> 00:41:56,798
focus on what whatever the

1260
00:41:56,798 --> 00:41:59,768
health of the of the

1261
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,168
employers. Bottom line is

1262
00:42:02,972 --> 00:42:05,972
that? I'm not crazy about

1263
00:42:07,175 --> 00:42:09,175
having. Hired 6 people.

1264
00:42:10,346 --> 00:42:11,130
Because at the end of the

1265
00:42:11,130 --> 00:42:12,348
collect some of the stuff I

1266
00:42:12,348 --> 00:42:15,348
was working with last night.

1267
00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:19,621
People are freezing. You got

1268
00:42:19,621 --> 00:42:22,891
to do what to do with. We

1269
00:42:22,891 --> 00:42:23,625
could take that approach and

1270
00:42:23,625 --> 00:42:25,828
the next thing I know he'll be

1271
00:42:25,828 --> 00:42:29,698
in front of me. Or whoever it

1272
00:42:29,698 --> 00:42:31,367
MAY be says my I got a person

1273
00:42:31,367 --> 00:42:35,567
who for our her ends. And with

1274
00:42:37,373 --> 00:42:38,400
that clearly. Is important.

1275
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,400
That's the dilemma that and

1276
00:42:41,477 --> 00:42:42,178
that's the dilemma. And like

1277
00:42:42,178 --> 00:42:42,979
you said, we're sitting here

1278
00:42:42,979 --> 00:42:44,413
trying to be stewards whether

1279
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:46,413
its ad valorem.

1280
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,616
>> Or otherwise. Our job is to

1281
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,900
be stewards of this money.

1282
00:42:56,292 --> 00:42:56,959
Like you. If there is a good

1283
00:42:56,959 --> 00:42:57,660
calls and thereby GOD is a

1284
00:42:57,660 --> 00:42:59,261
good cause. And if the voters

1285
00:42:59,261 --> 00:43:00,830
don't like it well done. Vote

1286
00:43:00,830 --> 00:43:04,834
us out. If we did right, if we

1287
00:43:04,834 --> 00:43:05,534
did right. With what we

1288
00:43:05,534 --> 00:43:08,534
believe with this money, then

1289
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:13,672
that's all we can do. 6 at

1290
00:43:13,909 --> 00:43:14,677
once just isn't. Is a painful

1291
00:43:14,677 --> 00:43:19,748
pill I am or sold on it than I

1292
00:43:19,748 --> 00:43:23,348
was. I am certainly not going

1293
00:43:24,186 --> 00:43:25,521
I mean we don't tend to sit

1294
00:43:25,521 --> 00:43:26,188
here and take votes as we go

1295
00:43:26,188 --> 00:43:26,855
through. This was a go back

1296
00:43:26,855 --> 00:43:29,855
sharpen your pencil and so

1297
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,295
forth. If the rest of the

1298
00:43:32,295 --> 00:43:35,970
board is satisfied with this

1299
00:43:35,970 --> 00:43:35,764
as it is clearly the equipment

1300
00:43:35,764 --> 00:43:38,167
go, oh, my GOD. That's up.

1301
00:43:38,167 --> 00:43:38,834
Another $600,000 If you have

1302
00:43:38,834 --> 00:43:41,170
to have the equipment, you

1303
00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:41,804
have to have the equipment. If

1304
00:43:41,804 --> 00:43:45,241
you have a truck that you

1305
00:43:45,241 --> 00:43:46,800
replace and and the stretchers

1306
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,276
got to go in the truck and

1307
00:43:47,276 --> 00:43:47,944
takes machine but stretcher in

1308
00:43:47,944 --> 00:43:49,944
there. And that's $125,000.

1309
00:43:51,513 --> 00:43:52,981
And that's just what it is.

1310
00:43:52,981 --> 00:43:54,684
It's like making with the

1311
00:43:54,684 --> 00:43:56,953
software it costs what it

1312
00:43:56,953 --> 00:43:59,456
costs. And if they triple a

1313
00:43:59,456 --> 00:44:00,357
dawning, he's got to have a

1314
00:44:00,357 --> 00:44:01,825
software to do. His business

1315
00:44:01,825 --> 00:44:02,559
wing set up here and my GOD,

1316
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:03,192
that's ridiculous offense what

1317
00:44:03,192 --> 00:44:04,927
it calls. That's what it

1318
00:44:04,927 --> 00:44:08,431
calls. Well, you and I are on

1319
00:44:08,431 --> 00:44:10,333
the same page about the people

1320
00:44:10,333 --> 00:44:11,000
piece of it. There's no doubt

1321
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,569
about that were on the same

1322
00:44:13,569 --> 00:44:14,303
page about adding people. It's

1323
00:44:14,303 --> 00:44:16,500
it's heartburn, right? Present

1324
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:16,372
time. He's Hartman at the pro.

1325
00:44:16,372 --> 00:44:17,730
Right? So

1326
00:44:17,730 --> 00:44:20,730
>> what I'm trying I'm trying

1327
00:44:21,678 --> 00:44:22,678
to provide. Some analysis so

1328
00:44:22,678 --> 00:44:23,413
that we can be comfortable

1329
00:44:23,413 --> 00:44:27,130
with the decision that we make

1330
00:44:27,617 --> 00:44:28,418
here on the sport. And if

1331
00:44:28,418 --> 00:44:29,952
anybody and I know this

1332
00:44:29,952 --> 00:44:30,654
conversation been back and

1333
00:44:30,654 --> 00:44:31,354
forth between you and I, but

1334
00:44:31,354 --> 00:44:33,656
just so if anybody else wants

1335
00:44:33,656 --> 00:44:34,557
to jump in here, that's fine.

1336
00:44:34,557 --> 00:44:35,190
But I think at the end of the

1337
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:37,590
day is that we got to be

1338
00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:37,694
caucus is what we have blow a

1339
00:44:37,694 --> 00:44:40,694
little. Will say this one

1340
00:44:40,863 --> 00:44:43,863
thing in the front. Senate

1341
00:44:44,767 --> 00:44:47,767
Bill, 180. Had a pair that

1342
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,604
just. It's not I'm not happy

1343
00:44:52,975 --> 00:44:54,377
with we try to get out of But

1344
00:44:54,377 --> 00:44:55,211
group with the baseline it was

1345
00:44:55,211 --> 00:44:57,113
recommended that cities and

1346
00:44:57,113 --> 00:44:58,281
counties go to a 42. Our work

1347
00:44:58,281 --> 00:45:00,483
week. That's a lot of money

1348
00:45:00,483 --> 00:45:03,352
for us for for fire and ems.

1349
00:45:03,352 --> 00:45:06,352
Something we cannot afford. I

1350
00:45:07,558 --> 00:45:08,258
could I think we can afford 6

1351
00:45:08,258 --> 00:45:11,858
people vs going to a 42. Our

1352
00:45:11,928 --> 00:45:12,595
work week.

1353
00:45:12,595 --> 00:45:15,197
>> And if that 42, our work

1354
00:45:15,197 --> 00:45:17,233
week gets implemented. Having

1355
00:45:17,233 --> 00:45:19,633
6 additional people on hand

1356
00:45:21,105 --> 00:45:23,206
too, down to that would make

1357
00:45:23,206 --> 00:45:24,241
that any easier transition as

1358
00:45:24,241 --> 00:45:24,941
well. I think what dish the

1359
00:45:24,941 --> 00:45:26,643
reason I'm bringing this up,

1360
00:45:26,643 --> 00:45:27,744
you can just jump in if you

1361
00:45:27,744 --> 00:45:29,780
like.

1362
00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:29,779
>> I think that some of the

1363
00:45:29,779 --> 00:45:32,179
commentary late it's been

1364
00:45:32,882 --> 00:45:33,549
happening in the

1365
00:45:33,549 --> 00:45:34,283
administration is previous

1366
00:45:34,283 --> 00:45:35,518
administration has been trying

1367
00:45:35,518 --> 00:45:39,718
to get to a 52 hour work week

1368
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:40,723
so that we can start. Manage

1369
00:45:40,723 --> 00:45:42,992
it better from an overtime

1370
00:45:42,992 --> 00:45:43,626
standpoint. My correct or

1371
00:45:43,626 --> 00:45:45,228
incorrect yester current.

1372
00:45:45,228 --> 00:45:45,861
Currently. We're at a 56 hour

1373
00:45:45,861 --> 00:45:47,230
work week again. Put not

1374
00:45:47,230 --> 00:45:47,631
counting the additional

1375
00:45:47,631 --> 00:45:48,298
overtime.

1376
00:45:48,298 --> 00:45:51,298
>> We do pay them overtime

1377
00:45:51,601 --> 00:45:53,970
after 53. And the 6 people

1378
00:45:53,970 --> 00:45:54,904
will get us to that. 53. So

1379
00:45:54,904 --> 00:45:57,304
that's another good tailing

1380
00:45:59,943 --> 00:46:03,346
feature. You get go. Help that

1381
00:46:03,346 --> 00:46:05,115
it's far from the 42 it and

1382
00:46:05,115 --> 00:46:07,550
and quite frankly, I have no

1383
00:46:07,550 --> 00:46:08,250
interest as your fire chief to

1384
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:08,918
come back and recommend that

1385
00:46:08,918 --> 00:46:10,553
we even attempt to get to a

1386
00:46:10,553 --> 00:46:13,189
42. Our work week. I don't I

1387
00:46:13,189 --> 00:46:14,624
don't think it's achievable.

1388
00:46:14,624 --> 00:46:15,792
Not only cost wise, but I

1389
00:46:15,792 --> 00:46:16,493
couldn't hire that many

1390
00:46:16,493 --> 00:46:19,997
people. I would have to hire

1391
00:46:19,997 --> 00:46:21,565
20 plus something people. As

1392
00:46:21,565 --> 00:46:22,231
we sit and I don't I don't

1393
00:46:22,231 --> 00:46:25,368
know that I could hire that

1394
00:46:25,368 --> 00:46:27,837
many if allow me to do it. So.

1395
00:46:27,837 --> 00:46:30,237
Frank, Frank, with volunteer?

1396
00:46:34,311 --> 00:46:35,450
Its Jessica.

1397
00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:38,450
>> On the assessment, define a

1398
00:46:38,748 --> 00:46:41,510
mass assessment. And I know

1399
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:41,718
that we've we have studies and

1400
00:46:41,718 --> 00:46:42,419
tell us do that had that we

1401
00:46:42,419 --> 00:46:46,190
take into account for the new

1402
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:47,858
construction. I mean, from

1403
00:46:47,858 --> 00:46:48,925
what you know, Commissioner

1404
00:46:48,925 --> 00:46:50,760
Burrows mention how many

1405
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,761
houses next to you. One 92

1406
00:46:51,761 --> 00:46:53,597
when 92 between you and the

1407
00:46:53,597 --> 00:46:55,532
Pizza Hut. There's that many

1408
00:46:55,532 --> 00:46:58,635
more. I can name you but

1409
00:46:58,635 --> 00:46:59,336
basics. It's cut numbers in

1410
00:46:59,336 --> 00:47:00,300
there that as some point with

1411
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:03,603
under deal less. So when we

1412
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:04,308
take those and there is there

1413
00:47:04,308 --> 00:47:07,844
a chance that that we could

1414
00:47:07,844 --> 00:47:09,646
the big level on increase on

1415
00:47:09,646 --> 00:47:10,713
assessment.

1416
00:47:10,713 --> 00:47:11,648
>> So I know in the current

1417
00:47:11,648 --> 00:47:14,480
fiscal year proposed budget,

1418
00:47:15,385 --> 00:47:18,985
we do have a some funds

1419
00:47:19,355 --> 00:47:20,724
allocated to start. A new one

1420
00:47:20,724 --> 00:47:22,659
so that way. It can include

1421
00:47:22,659 --> 00:47:23,360
some of these items. I'm not

1422
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,610
necessarily sure maybe chief

1423
00:47:24,610 --> 00:47:26,396
can speak on it more in terms

1424
00:47:26,396 --> 00:47:27,530
of the Stan Tech study.

1425
00:47:27,530 --> 00:47:28,599
>> On, if it included, I know

1426
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:29,633
there are some things left

1427
00:47:29,633 --> 00:47:31,535
out, but I'm not sure if this

1428
00:47:31,535 --> 00:47:33,270
is one of them. CHAIRMAN, the

1429
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:36,270
concept behind it is that.

1430
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:37,440
>> It's based on the need per

1431
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,141
unit.

1432
00:47:38,141 --> 00:47:40,541
>> An additional units would

1433
00:47:41,578 --> 00:47:42,646
include additional needs.

1434
00:47:42,646 --> 00:47:46,246
>> But the plan that was put

1435
00:47:46,349 --> 00:47:47,830
in place 5 years ago was

1436
00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:47,985
that's how the Stan Tech study

1437
00:47:47,985 --> 00:47:51,688
was based on. And it was based

1438
00:47:51,688 --> 00:47:52,622
on that growth with what they

1439
00:47:52,622 --> 00:47:53,390
estimated to be the growth.

1440
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:55,580
But I mean you know, I don't

1441
00:47:55,580 --> 00:47:56,659
know that anybody expected us

1442
00:47:56,659 --> 00:47:58,610
to go 3 or 4 years with no

1443
00:47:58,610 --> 00:47:58,995
growth. And then all the

1444
00:47:58,995 --> 00:47:59,696
sudden c this this rapid

1445
00:47:59,696 --> 00:48:03,296
growth right here at the end

1446
00:48:05,135 --> 00:48:05,735
of it. But I do see your point

1447
00:48:05,735 --> 00:48:07,805
at some point. And I do

1448
00:48:07,805 --> 00:48:09,720
believe with impact fees and

1449
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:10,273
all of this new growth. I

1450
00:48:10,273 --> 00:48:11,708
believe that we will large

1451
00:48:11,708 --> 00:48:14,108
reduction in our capital

1452
00:48:15,712 --> 00:48:18,348
budget, which reduce the need

1453
00:48:18,348 --> 00:48:19,549
to raise assessments.

1454
00:48:19,549 --> 00:48:21,317
>> In fact, these are going to

1455
00:48:21,317 --> 00:48:22,619
help in terms of that. 2 of

1456
00:48:22,619 --> 00:48:23,286
the building of build out.

1457
00:48:23,286 --> 00:48:25,855
Yes. So I mean, I think the

1458
00:48:25,855 --> 00:48:26,656
reasons why we did right and

1459
00:48:26,656 --> 00:48:30,856
and what one of the reasons we

1460
00:48:32,663 --> 00:48:33,397
went 100%. Versus 60%. Correct

1461
00:48:33,397 --> 00:48:34,131
is the reason just what he's

1462
00:48:34,131 --> 00:48:36,500
standing in front of that they

1463
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:37,168
would help pay for this. They

1464
00:48:37,168 --> 00:48:37,902
would help pay for that at

1465
00:48:37,902 --> 00:48:39,770
100%. We would not have to put

1466
00:48:39,770 --> 00:48:43,370
money into it. And that was

1467
00:48:44,441 --> 00:48:45,142
the whole reason. I kept.

1468
00:48:45,142 --> 00:48:48,142
Batteries. You end This what

1469
00:48:48,913 --> 00:48:49,613
pay the assessment too. So I

1470
00:48:49,613 --> 00:48:51,314
just think in the long run we

1471
00:48:51,314 --> 00:48:55,418
take a look at the from a pro.

1472
00:48:55,418 --> 00:48:58,788
You approach to budget wise. I

1473
00:48:58,788 --> 00:48:59,623
can accept the 6 people today

1474
00:48:59,623 --> 00:49:00,290
relative to what you just

1475
00:49:00,290 --> 00:49:02,559
talked about over that over

1476
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,159
the period of time. Not get

1477
00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:07,631
into. And we can validate,

1478
00:49:07,631 --> 00:49:10,801
like I said, you know, going

1479
00:49:10,801 --> 00:49:13,137
to the 50 look at 2 workweek

1480
00:49:13,137 --> 00:49:15,639
whatever, it MAY 3. Yes, sir.

1481
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:17,675
53. It still has a reduction

1482
00:49:17,675 --> 00:49:18,375
in overtime which has

1483
00:49:18,375 --> 00:49:20,775
production and the potential

1484
00:49:21,578 --> 00:49:22,312
health of the employee. And

1485
00:49:22,312 --> 00:49:23,981
with some assurance to me that

1486
00:49:23,981 --> 00:49:26,981
when that 4th station gets

1487
00:49:27,718 --> 00:49:29,186
built, that it's

1488
00:49:29,186 --> 00:49:30,354
>> these existing extra units,

1489
00:49:30,354 --> 00:49:31,210
they go there and that at that

1490
00:49:31,210 --> 00:49:31,755
time were not standing here

1491
00:49:31,755 --> 00:49:33,257
asking for additional units to

1492
00:49:33,257 --> 00:49:35,826
go to stage. Yes. All right.

1493
00:49:35,826 --> 00:49:36,427
Or as many.

1494
00:49:36,427 --> 00:49:38,328
>> I something just for

1495
00:49:38,328 --> 00:49:41,928
second. I want to praise your

1496
00:49:44,469 --> 00:49:46,869
little. The last meetings,

1497
00:49:49,874 --> 00:49:52,274
sensitive took this position.

1498
00:49:53,410 --> 00:49:56,460
To waive handle Dust I got

1499
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:58,181
family in the fire department.

1500
00:49:58,181 --> 00:49:59,416
I don't know if the public

1501
00:49:59,416 --> 00:50:01,786
always they don't get to maybe

1502
00:50:01,786 --> 00:50:02,453
hear the stories. I get to

1503
00:50:02,453 --> 00:50:04,621
hear about the fire and the

1504
00:50:04,621 --> 00:50:07,458
baby that. Was trapped in the

1505
00:50:07,458 --> 00:50:10,458
car. Other thick things they

1506
00:50:12,896 --> 00:50:16,466
do. All other think I hear on

1507
00:50:16,466 --> 00:50:17,768
Facebook, you know, who else

1508
00:50:17,768 --> 00:50:18,469
we should outsource this and

1509
00:50:18,469 --> 00:50:19,690
outsourced Why are we paying

1510
00:50:19,690 --> 00:50:20,737
for them to sleep at a

1511
00:50:20,737 --> 00:50:22,906
station? I don't think they

1512
00:50:22,906 --> 00:50:24,775
get it. Yes, sir. But there's

1513
00:50:24,775 --> 00:50:25,976
a lot more to this fire

1514
00:50:25,976 --> 00:50:26,643
department. Public really

1515
00:50:26,643 --> 00:50:29,643
realizes. And just want to

1516
00:50:29,646 --> 00:50:30,313
thank you for what you do.

1517
00:50:30,313 --> 00:50:31,114
>> I appreciate that. I do

1518
00:50:31,114 --> 00:50:31,716
want to give a shout out to my

1519
00:50:31,716 --> 00:50:34,116
cruise. I mean, they're

1520
00:50:34,251 --> 00:50:34,652
absolutely amazing. We had.

1521
00:50:34,652 --> 00:50:36,652
>> a call.

1522
00:50:38,722 --> 00:50:41,725
>> Last last believe it was a

1523
00:50:41,725 --> 00:50:43,360
pediatric drowning and the

1524
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,610
child was lifeless. No pets,

1525
00:50:44,610 --> 00:50:44,795
no restoration got there. And

1526
00:50:44,795 --> 00:50:45,496
I just got to pick Trevor this

1527
00:50:45,496 --> 00:50:48,499
week where she's sitting in a

1528
00:50:48,499 --> 00:50:50,702
wheelchair. Awake and talking

1529
00:50:50,702 --> 00:50:51,336
to our want to bring that up

1530
00:50:51,336 --> 00:50:53,736
before the budget because

1531
00:50:54,572 --> 00:50:56,473
that's not what a a.

1532
00:50:56,473 --> 00:50:57,441
>> That there's hundreds of

1533
00:50:57,441 --> 00:50:58,611
the story. Yes, and you

1534
00:50:58,611 --> 00:51:01,212
clearly know, Justin. I mean,

1535
00:51:01,212 --> 00:51:04,515
you know, all have done more

1536
00:51:04,515 --> 00:51:05,249
with helping with deadpan.

1537
00:51:05,249 --> 00:51:08,849
Then I could. So, you o'Neal's

1538
00:51:10,888 --> 00:51:11,622
sister. Most of the reason

1539
00:51:11,622 --> 00:51:12,256
that conversation was just had

1540
00:51:12,256 --> 00:51:13,591
its own people out there,

1541
00:51:13,591 --> 00:51:16,494
naysayers. You can see the

1542
00:51:16,494 --> 00:51:19,300
sausage get made. The get the

1543
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:22,300
full explanation. And get some

1544
00:51:23,133 --> 00:51:24,301
promises. To that future that

1545
00:51:24,301 --> 00:51:26,337
we're working towards its not

1546
00:51:26,337 --> 00:51:28,338
just going to be a snow ball

1547
00:51:28,338 --> 00:51:28,459
on top of it. And whether j#

1548
00:51:28,459 --> 00:51:29,173
#

1549
00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:29,907
standing there Wheather Onthe

1550
00:51:29,907 --> 00:51:32,907
even sitting here 3 years from

1551
00:51:34,244 --> 00:51:36,280
now. Whoever is I hope they

1552
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,282
hold. I hope they they hold

1553
00:51:38,282 --> 00:51:39,149
that from Yes, sir. And and

1554
00:51:39,149 --> 00:51:41,752
you can. You can ask MISS Lisa

1555
00:51:41,752 --> 00:51:42,253
staff. I have given my staff

1556
00:51:42,253 --> 00:51:43,200
clear direction.

1557
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:43,721
>> To look for alternative

1558
00:51:43,721 --> 00:51:44,287
sources of funding, whether

1559
00:51:44,287 --> 00:51:44,989
that be grants or or

1560
00:51:44,989 --> 00:51:47,389
partnerships or anything else

1561
00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:50,361
where? I'm a taxpayer here,

1562
00:51:50,361 --> 00:51:52,290
too. And I be firm believer in

1563
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:52,930
being stewards of our money.

1564
00:51:52,930 --> 00:51:53,564
So I would ask for something

1565
00:51:53,564 --> 00:51:57,164
if I didn't think it was

1566
00:51:57,201 --> 00:51:57,902
critical. So.

1567
00:51:57,902 --> 00:51:59,972
>> So commissioner summer and

1568
00:51:59,972 --> 00:52:04,760
I'll shut up I want you to

1569
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,443
realize one other thing too.

1570
00:52:05,443 --> 00:52:06,311
And I just thought that is

1571
00:52:06,311 --> 00:52:08,120
that this witness additional

1572
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,130
station has been, quote,

1573
00:52:09,130 --> 00:52:09,747
unquote, build. There's

1574
00:52:09,747 --> 00:52:11,747
there's additional opportunity

1575
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,519
for. Fire and ems assessments.

1576
00:52:19,230 --> 00:52:20,257
Little bit further south.

1577
00:52:20,257 --> 00:52:21,459
>> And counting on that. And

1578
00:52:21,459 --> 00:52:22,920
and I don't talk about out

1579
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,492
loud because it's nothing

1580
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,464
that. As a guarantee.

1581
00:52:29,801 --> 00:52:30,434
>> No, but I'm sure that is

1582
00:52:30,434 --> 00:52:31,135
being worked. Yes, we're

1583
00:52:31,135 --> 00:52:32,269
working, right. Just want to

1584
00:52:32,269 --> 00:52:35,106
make sure that we. It's just

1585
00:52:35,106 --> 00:52:38,706
not that we're going use exact

1586
00:52:39,343 --> 00:52:40,144
our existing. People here to

1587
00:52:40,144 --> 00:52:43,144
do that. We're working on

1588
00:52:44,820 --> 00:52:45,883
helping other areas that

1589
00:52:45,883 --> 00:52:46,484
currently are providing they

1590
00:52:46,484 --> 00:52:48,884
pay are currently let's

1591
00:52:49,987 --> 00:52:50,688
spending that money. Yes. And

1592
00:52:50,688 --> 00:52:53,490
we get compensated for and we

1593
00:52:53,490 --> 00:52:54,590
get compensated for it. What

1594
00:52:54,590 --> 00:52:56,459
we should be getting

1595
00:52:56,627 --> 00:52:58,663
compensated So. Just wanted to

1596
00:52:58,663 --> 00:53:00,131
that end. So it's we if you

1597
00:53:00,131 --> 00:53:03,131
didn't remember that, not can

1598
00:53:04,936 --> 00:53:07,906
we talk about the sausage?

1599
00:53:07,906 --> 00:53:09,541
>> I am thank you so much. So

1600
00:53:09,541 --> 00:53:10,442
it was a told told you this

1601
00:53:10,442 --> 00:53:11,750
morning it was going make all

1602
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:14,750
kinds of sausage, big and

1603
00:53:14,179 --> 00:53:15,413
small. Well, I'm glad we had

1604
00:53:15,413 --> 00:53:18,413
that conversation. We did just

1605
00:53:18,650 --> 00:53:21,552
get just get Apologize for not

1606
00:53:21,552 --> 00:53:24,552
making sure buddy was killed

1607
00:53:25,823 --> 00:53:30,230
on so anyone Thank you, ok? So

1608
00:53:34,832 --> 00:53:37,935
are we ok? What would Thank

1609
00:53:37,935 --> 00:53:40,335
you, Commissioner. Thank you.

1610
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,108
Okay. MISS An ace. It's your

1611
00:53:44,108 --> 00:53:46,243
second time. Welcome back.

1612
00:53:46,243 --> 00:53:49,513
>> This is my second time. And

1613
00:53:49,513 --> 00:53:50,381
I think this is my last time.

1614
00:53:50,381 --> 00:53:52,781
>> He said that yesterday

1615
00:53:53,418 --> 00:53:54,352
every time I see her, she's

1616
00:53:54,352 --> 00:53:55,854
walking out with a box with

1617
00:53:55,854 --> 00:53:57,555
its I were good about going

1618
00:53:57,555 --> 00:53:58,956
have to start following are

1619
00:53:58,956 --> 00:54:02,556
out and see which open spot.

1620
00:54:02,660 --> 00:54:03,194
Yeah, small is going to

1621
00:54:03,194 --> 00:54:04,629
disappear, though.

1622
00:54:04,629 --> 00:54:05,864
>> You'll see tomorrow for

1623
00:54:05,864 --> 00:54:06,531
regular bocc meeting with this

1624
00:54:06,531 --> 00:54:07,699
is my last budget present.

1625
00:54:07,699 --> 00:54:10,699
You're going to be stuffed

1626
00:54:12,537 --> 00:54:13,738
with no chandler instead Think

1627
00:54:13,738 --> 00:54:14,873
those who know cameras much

1628
00:54:14,873 --> 00:54:17,510
better She got down Wofford

1629
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:18,677
and then cool.

1630
00:54:18,677 --> 00:54:20,278
>> I mean, you said I'm going

1631
00:54:20,278 --> 00:54:23,214
from the frying pan into the

1632
00:54:23,214 --> 00:54:23,948
fire, a

1633
00:54:23,948 --> 00:54:24,616
>> And I want to get friend of

1634
00:54:24,616 --> 00:54:25,617
mine so I can tease quite a

1635
00:54:25,617 --> 00:54:27,617
bit.

1636
00:54:29,755 --> 00:54:31,550
>> And no and his kidneys.

1637
00:54:31,550 --> 00:54:31,856
Couple months older me, And

1638
00:54:31,856 --> 00:54:35,393
you never let him forget it.

1639
00:54:35,393 --> 00:54:36,270
That's

1640
00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:38,427
>> I think, know, there's

1641
00:54:38,496 --> 00:54:41,496
anybody older than you, but

1642
00:54:44,101 --> 00:54:44,836
is. All right. Go ahead. I'm

1643
00:54:44,836 --> 00:54:47,104
sorry. All right. Before I get

1644
00:54:47,104 --> 00:54:48,205
started, I want to echo Justin

1645
00:54:48,205 --> 00:54:49,174
his leave sentiments on the

1646
00:54:49,174 --> 00:54:50,875
budget process this year. What

1647
00:54:50,875 --> 00:54:51,877
the public doesn't realize is

1648
00:54:51,877 --> 00:54:52,644
that.

1649
00:54:52,644 --> 00:54:54,479
>> From a staff perspective,

1650
00:54:54,479 --> 00:54:56,348
we start this process back in

1651
00:54:56,348 --> 00:54:57,480
JANUARY. So this has been

1652
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,583
something we've been dealing

1653
00:54:58,583 --> 00:54:59,984
with now for several months.

1654
00:54:59,984 --> 00:55:03,621
And I can't give Lisa and her

1655
00:55:03,621 --> 00:55:04,322
team enough. Kudos. Justin

1656
00:55:04,322 --> 00:55:07,492
Nelson, Lisa and I have been

1657
00:55:07,492 --> 00:55:08,159
meeting since JANUARY with the

1658
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:09,728
leadership changes, Justin,

1659
00:55:09,728 --> 00:55:10,762
he's Leaf and Jessica added to

1660
00:55:10,762 --> 00:55:13,765
that group and we have met at

1661
00:55:13,765 --> 00:55:14,532
least monthly if not more

1662
00:55:14,532 --> 00:55:17,532
often, to make sure we're

1663
00:55:18,536 --> 00:55:19,771
staying on process. So this

1664
00:55:19,771 --> 00:55:21,539
year's process has been the

1665
00:55:21,539 --> 00:55:23,939
smoothest. I have experienced

1666
00:55:24,475 --> 00:55:25,611
in the 8 years. I've been here

1667
00:55:25,611 --> 00:55:27,246
and I have to give Lisa and

1668
00:55:27,246 --> 00:55:27,913
her team kudos for that.

1669
00:55:27,913 --> 00:55:29,481
Despite leadership changes,

1670
00:55:29,481 --> 00:55:31,481
despite her department

1671
00:55:31,683 --> 00:55:33,718
changes, this has been a

1672
00:55:33,718 --> 00:55:34,419
really amazing process to

1673
00:55:34,419 --> 00:55:37,220
bring budget to you in a very

1674
00:55:37,220 --> 00:55:38,590
challenging time.

1675
00:55:38,590 --> 00:55:40,990
>> Would you mind articulating

1676
00:55:41,692 --> 00:55:42,393
what you told me a study what

1677
00:55:42,393 --> 00:55:44,829
what the staff is being going

1678
00:55:44,829 --> 00:55:47,829
been going through with that

1679
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:49,901
with the reductions the 5%

1680
00:55:49,901 --> 00:55:51,769
temperature you mind repeating

1681
00:55:51,769 --> 00:55:52,604
and my staff, my staff

1682
00:55:52,604 --> 00:55:53,338
specifically and I can't speak

1683
00:55:53,338 --> 00:55:55,240
for for the rest of the team,

1684
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:55,907
but my staff specifically

1685
00:55:55,907 --> 00:55:58,307
>> have gone through their

1686
00:56:00,478 --> 00:56:01,179
own. Expect it experiences of

1687
00:56:01,179 --> 00:56:03,781
drafting this budget and then

1688
00:56:03,781 --> 00:56:05,650
looking at what a 10% decrease

1689
00:56:05,650 --> 00:56:08,554
of 15% decrease. And even a 40

1690
00:56:08,554 --> 00:56:10,422
or 50% decrease would look

1691
00:56:10,422 --> 00:56:12,591
like they understand how

1692
00:56:12,591 --> 00:56:13,625
important it is to be fiscal

1693
00:56:13,625 --> 00:56:15,427
stewards of taxpayer dollars.

1694
00:56:15,427 --> 00:56:17,295
They're all taxpayers

1695
00:56:17,295 --> 00:56:19,970
themselves. They understand

1696
00:56:19,970 --> 00:56:20,799
how important it is to respect

1697
00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:22,534
this budget and to not be

1698
00:56:22,534 --> 00:56:23,435
wasteful. And so they are

1699
00:56:23,435 --> 00:56:25,835
already anticipating what it's

1700
00:56:29,173 --> 00:56:30,742
going to take to make those

1701
00:56:30,742 --> 00:56:32,778
decreases. And I will tell you

1702
00:56:32,778 --> 00:56:34,460
these departments have for a

1703
00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:35,614
long time understood how

1704
00:56:35,614 --> 00:56:37,883
important it is to stretch the

1705
00:56:37,883 --> 00:56:39,500
dollar and they stretch every

1706
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:42,500
year they returned to reserves

1707
00:56:42,788 --> 00:56:45,524
when they can, but they really

1708
00:56:45,524 --> 00:56:46,191
do make effective use of

1709
00:56:46,191 --> 00:56:47,693
taxpayer dollars. They are

1710
00:56:47,693 --> 00:56:49,628
always mindful of can we do

1711
00:56:49,628 --> 00:56:50,329
this cheaper? Can we do this

1712
00:56:50,329 --> 00:56:50,996
more effectively? Can we find

1713
00:56:50,996 --> 00:56:52,565
creative solutions? Can we

1714
00:56:52,565 --> 00:56:54,965
find alternative funding? They

1715
00:56:56,234 --> 00:56:56,835
work very hard at that. So I

1716
00:56:56,835 --> 00:56:58,835
understand the public's

1717
00:56:59,705 --> 00:57:01,705
perspective isn't always.

1718
00:57:03,541 --> 00:57:04,275
>> a knowledgeable think

1719
00:57:04,275 --> 00:57:04,977
opponents say. And I encourage

1720
00:57:04,977 --> 00:57:05,844
them to ask the questions.

1721
00:57:05,844 --> 00:57:07,412
They're asking to the people

1722
00:57:07,412 --> 00:57:09,812
who understand the answers.

1723
00:57:12,684 --> 00:57:13,385
>> Instead of the Facebook.

1724
00:57:13,385 --> 00:57:14,253
Face wonder about their one

1725
00:57:14,253 --> 00:57:16,654
thing you have bailed on in

1726
00:57:16,654 --> 00:57:16,988
and your whole time here.

1727
00:57:16,988 --> 00:57:17,656
Right?

1728
00:57:17,656 --> 00:57:18,357
>> You have never made her

1729
00:57:18,357 --> 00:57:21,357
smile. Sitting in the budget

1730
00:57:22,895 --> 00:57:24,895
meeting.

1731
00:57:28,467 --> 00:57:29,468
>> We scared. Are scared?

1732
00:57:29,468 --> 00:57:30,435
She's going she's going out to

1733
00:57:30,435 --> 00:57:31,537
smile a little bit each and

1734
00:57:31,537 --> 00:57:32,237
every time because we're not

1735
00:57:32,237 --> 00:57:33,405
all hours that they're still

1736
00:57:33,405 --> 00:57:35,405
it because this.

1737
00:57:37,142 --> 00:57:37,676
>> You've got to have some,

1738
00:57:37,676 --> 00:57:38,944
you know, level of

1739
00:57:38,944 --> 00:57:40,412
conversation here and make

1740
00:57:40,412 --> 00:57:42,181
this easy because this is not

1741
00:57:42,181 --> 00:57:43,316
easy, I will say in the 8

1742
00:57:43,316 --> 00:57:44,170
years that I've been here,

1743
00:57:44,170 --> 00:57:47,170
I've seen some pretty amazing

1744
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:47,853
hires. She is top of the list.

1745
00:57:47,853 --> 00:57:49,789
>> She has really been a

1746
00:57:49,789 --> 00:57:51,923
phenomenal addition to our

1747
00:57:51,923 --> 00:57:53,759
leadership team. She her

1748
00:57:53,759 --> 00:57:54,860
knowledge on both the hr side

1749
00:57:54,860 --> 00:57:57,290
and the finance side is has

1750
00:57:57,290 --> 00:57:57,996
really added a lot of value

1751
00:57:57,996 --> 00:57:59,310
and she doesn't get get the

1752
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,631
credit she needs to get for

1753
00:58:03,235 --> 00:58:04,436
that. So.

1754
00:58:04,436 --> 00:58:07,472
>> She is very good. By the

1755
00:58:07,472 --> 00:58:08,373
see it. And I've told that to

1756
00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:10,142
rest race not only was mix of

1757
00:58:10,142 --> 00:58:14,179
the tire, but she does a good

1758
00:58:14,179 --> 00:58:14,847
job of hiring said that

1759
00:58:14,847 --> 00:58:15,514
absolutely Contrary to what

1760
00:58:15,514 --> 00:58:17,750
the public might think. We

1761
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:21,350
don't do the She looks that

1762
00:58:21,453 --> 00:58:22,554
are new hire right next to it.

1763
00:58:22,554 --> 00:58:23,789
>> she is she has been truly a

1764
00:58:23,789 --> 00:58:24,490
phenomenal guide for the

1765
00:58:24,490 --> 00:58:25,157
leadership team to be able to

1766
00:58:25,157 --> 00:58:28,157
come to her with personnel

1767
00:58:28,661 --> 00:58:30,950
issues with hiring issues,

1768
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:32,230
with budget issues that I

1769
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:33,298
couldn't imagine the job that

1770
00:58:33,298 --> 00:58:34,566
she has.

1771
00:58:34,566 --> 00:58:37,636
>> I truly and I didn't come

1772
00:58:37,636 --> 00:58:39,538
up here just sing her praises.

1773
00:58:39,538 --> 00:58:40,205
But truly, she has one of the

1774
00:58:40,205 --> 00:58:42,875
most difficult jobs in the

1775
00:58:42,875 --> 00:58:45,100
county to handle both hr and

1776
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:45,911
budget. I don't know anyone

1777
00:58:45,911 --> 00:58:48,130
else who could do it with the

1778
00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:49,615
grace and poise that she does

1779
00:58:49,615 --> 00:58:50,316
with She has assured me she's

1780
00:58:50,316 --> 00:58:53,316
not interested in working for

1781
00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:57,255
the city. Yeah.

1782
00:58:59,258 --> 00:59:00,392
>> So So you into border. But

1783
00:59:00,392 --> 00:59:03,992
I will be calling her for

1784
00:59:05,298 --> 00:59:06,398
advice. And Rick, what And a

1785
00:59:06,398 --> 00:59:07,990
ship. Thank you for that. A

1786
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:09,499
little soapbox. I appreciate

1787
00:59:10,570 --> 00:59:12,772
your your patients with me.

1788
00:59:12,772 --> 00:59:13,605
>> Ship is our state Housing

1789
00:59:13,605 --> 00:59:15,474
Initiative program. This

1790
00:59:15,474 --> 00:59:17,474
funded through state

1791
00:59:17,476 --> 00:59:19,476
allocation. Okeechobee County

1792
00:59:20,279 --> 00:59:20,980
is a small fiscally

1793
00:59:20,980 --> 00:59:21,914
constrained county, receives

1794
00:59:21,914 --> 00:59:22,548
the lowest amount of

1795
00:59:22,548 --> 00:59:24,948
allocations by the state,

1796
00:59:26,418 --> 00:59:27,850
which is $350,000 with a few

1797
00:59:27,850 --> 00:59:30,850
other revenues that come in

1798
00:59:30,556 --> 00:59:31,290
here to take us up to 3.89.

1799
00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:33,910
That's intrest in some payoffs

1800
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:35,694
on some loans and things like

1801
00:59:35,694 --> 00:59:39,894
that. So we are looking at a

1802
00:59:40,833 --> 00:59:42,768
projected revenue of $389,200.

1803
00:59:42,768 --> 00:59:44,360
10% of that 350,000 that comes

1804
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,871
in can be used for

1805
00:59:45,871 --> 00:59:47,390
administrative costs. And what

1806
00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:47,740
we recognized over the past 2

1807
00:59:47,740 --> 00:59:50,740
years that I've been involved

1808
00:59:50,810 --> 00:59:52,745
in this department is that we

1809
00:59:52,745 --> 00:59:53,746
were not allocating that

1810
00:59:53,746 --> 00:59:55,314
correctly to salaries. So we

1811
00:59:55,314 --> 00:59:55,948
were taking that $350,000

1812
00:59:55,948 --> 00:59:57,583
putting it in contracted

1813
00:59:57,583 --> 01:00:00,583
services and not utilizing it

1814
01:00:00,954 --> 01:00:02,688
for those salary costs. We

1815
01:00:02,688 --> 01:00:03,523
also a couple of years ago

1816
01:00:03,523 --> 01:00:06,523
before I joined the department

1817
01:00:07,394 --> 01:00:08,360
before least so is here. There

1818
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,162
was a little bit of a

1819
01:00:10,162 --> 01:00:13,980
discrepancy in how we handled

1820
01:00:13,980 --> 01:00:15,135
some of the balance forward

1821
01:00:15,135 --> 01:00:17,169
funds. So in the ship

1822
01:00:17,169 --> 01:00:18,538
accounts, we have 3 years when

1823
01:00:18,538 --> 01:00:19,405
someone comes in or when we

1824
01:00:19,405 --> 01:00:22,208
get our allocation, we have 3

1825
01:00:22,208 --> 01:00:23,242
years to spend that money. So

1826
01:00:23,242 --> 01:00:25,177
there's a lot of kind of roll

1827
01:00:25,177 --> 01:00:26,578
over and moving forward and

1828
01:00:26,578 --> 01:00:26,979
things that are very

1829
01:00:26,979 --> 01:00:28,979
confusing.

1830
01:00:29,782 --> 01:00:30,716
>> In this budget line. So you

1831
01:00:30,716 --> 01:00:33,716
see that we have operating

1832
01:00:33,986 --> 01:00:36,386
expenses last year of

1833
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:39,580
$336,142. This was us making

1834
01:00:39,580 --> 01:00:42,580
some adjustments. So that's a

1835
01:00:43,963 --> 01:00:44,630
lower amount than normal that

1836
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:46,630
470,344 operating expenses

1837
01:00:47,734 --> 01:00:51,771
back into a more of a normal

1838
01:00:51,771 --> 01:00:52,471
normal operating expenses that

1839
01:00:52,471 --> 01:00:53,205
we see the non-operating. You

1840
01:00:53,205 --> 01:00:56,142
see that we are trying to kind

1841
01:00:56,142 --> 01:00:58,778
of get that that reserve that

1842
01:00:58,778 --> 01:01:01,113
cash, that balance forward

1843
01:01:01,113 --> 01:01:02,715
fund back in to where it's

1844
01:01:02,715 --> 01:01:04,160
supposed to be. So Lisa has

1845
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:04,951
done a lot of work. When I

1846
01:01:04,951 --> 01:01:07,153
give her kudos, she has earned

1847
01:01:07,153 --> 01:01:07,887
especially in this account to

1848
01:01:07,887 --> 01:01:11,292
try and get this back where it

1849
01:01:11,292 --> 01:01:12,258
needs to be and get everything

1850
01:01:12,258 --> 01:01:14,600
kind of moving forward for

1851
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,595
Justin Hayes, a leaf to take

1852
01:01:16,595 --> 01:01:17,263
over in a better place there's

1853
01:01:17,263 --> 01:01:20,263
still a little tweaks that

1854
01:01:20,633 --> 01:01:21,334
need to happen. But at this

1855
01:01:21,334 --> 01:01:22,668
point, I'm confident that we

1856
01:01:22,668 --> 01:01:24,404
are back in a better place

1857
01:01:24,404 --> 01:01:26,439
with this. So we are looking

1858
01:01:26,439 --> 01:01:28,907
at a 21% decrease in our total

1859
01:01:28,907 --> 01:01:29,643
budget. But again, this is

1860
01:01:29,643 --> 01:01:32,430
funded through ship funds,

1861
01:01:33,546 --> 01:01:34,613
affordable housing funds. So

1862
01:01:34,613 --> 01:01:37,851
this isn't a ad valorem our

1863
01:01:37,851 --> 01:01:38,585
general fund account at all. I

1864
01:01:38,585 --> 01:01:40,553
probably confused the heck out

1865
01:01:40,553 --> 01:01:44,153
of me. Me any questions. You

1866
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:46,920
have.

1867
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:46,726
>> So your cash balance this

1868
01:01:46,726 --> 01:01:48,726
year's what 79,000? Yes,

1869
01:01:48,895 --> 01:01:52,365
that's and that's that. And so

1870
01:01:52,365 --> 01:01:52,999
the 3.50.

1871
01:01:52,999 --> 01:01:53,632
>> What does that come a

1872
01:01:53,632 --> 01:01:56,320
usually comes in AUGUST,

1873
01:01:57,690 --> 01:01:57,770
SEPTEMBER someplace in there.

1874
01:01:57,770 --> 01:02:00,106
So it's what we're budgeting

1875
01:02:00,106 --> 01:02:00,974
for for the next fiscal year

1876
01:02:00,974 --> 01:02:02,442
starting in OCTOBER. So

1877
01:02:02,442 --> 01:02:04,842
usually OCTOBER NOVEMBER is

1878
01:02:05,244 --> 01:02:07,146
when we start being able to

1879
01:02:07,146 --> 01:02:07,847
offer those funds. How do you

1880
01:02:07,847 --> 01:02:08,414
distribute that? I mean, what

1881
01:02:08,414 --> 01:02:10,814
was criteria terms of

1882
01:02:11,351 --> 01:02:13,351
distributing the 350,000 So

1883
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,121
it'll be closer to 3.15,

1884
01:02:15,121 --> 01:02:16,289
because clouds are going to

1885
01:02:16,289 --> 01:02:16,990
come out of that were allowed

1886
01:02:16,990 --> 01:02:19,226
to use 10% of that allocation

1887
01:02:19,226 --> 01:02:21,626
for administrative costs. The

1888
01:02:22,161 --> 01:02:23,970
rest go through an application

1889
01:02:23,970 --> 01:02:23,797
our affordable housing

1890
01:02:23,797 --> 01:02:26,197
coordinator, which is vacant

1891
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:27,266
right now. So anybody wants to

1892
01:02:27,266 --> 01:02:30,266
work in field, please reach

1893
01:02:31,137 --> 01:02:33,273
out to the county, but the

1894
01:02:33,273 --> 01:02:34,407
Affordable housing coordinator

1895
01:02:34,407 --> 01:02:35,141
basically opens up an

1896
01:02:35,141 --> 01:02:37,900
application process. They have

1897
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:37,844
to meet the criteria that set

1898
01:02:37,844 --> 01:02:41,715
in the l hat, which is the

1899
01:02:41,715 --> 01:02:42,782
local housing

1900
01:02:42,782 --> 01:02:45,782
>> I know prove plan. Other

1901
01:02:46,253 --> 01:02:48,653
assistance plan. Thank you

1902
01:02:49,288 --> 01:02:50,623
>> so they do have to meet

1903
01:02:50,623 --> 01:02:51,357
that criteria. There are

1904
01:02:51,357 --> 01:02:51,958
several ways that this funding

1905
01:02:51,958 --> 01:02:54,126
can assist them. It can

1906
01:02:54,126 --> 01:02:56,526
through emergency repairs. It

1907
01:02:59,132 --> 01:02:59,866
can be through foreclosure, an

1908
01:02:59,866 --> 01:03:00,900
eviction prevention or through

1909
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,900
Like first home buyer type

1910
01:03:07,973 --> 01:03:08,707
situations.

1911
01:03:08,707 --> 01:03:11,511
>> When we have the Affordable

1912
01:03:11,511 --> 01:03:14,511
Housing Committee, it we need

1913
01:03:15,749 --> 01:03:16,749
to 2 years. Yes. And I have

1914
01:03:16,749 --> 01:03:17,483
people volunteer for that one.

1915
01:03:17,483 --> 01:03:21,830
Like that from made that much.

1916
01:03:22,522 --> 01:03:24,123
They do. A sea of the county's

1917
01:03:24,123 --> 01:03:25,291
actually bring the ship

1918
01:03:25,291 --> 01:03:26,226
program that bucket

1919
01:03:26,226 --> 01:03:27,895
applications to the

1920
01:03:27,895 --> 01:03:28,628
commission. And I'm not

1921
01:03:28,628 --> 01:03:29,296
advocating a net, but it might

1922
01:03:29,296 --> 01:03:30,697
be time to send it to that

1923
01:03:30,697 --> 01:03:31,398
Affordable Housing Committee

1924
01:03:31,398 --> 01:03:34,200
and let them review on before

1925
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,400
we. Give a lot of funds see a

1926
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,400
lot of foreclosures.

1927
01:03:40,106 --> 01:03:42,242
>> It might be good to at

1928
01:03:42,242 --> 01:03:42,943
least convene that committee a

1929
01:03:42,943 --> 01:03:43,777
few times this year and let

1930
01:03:43,777 --> 01:03:46,777
them see what the applications

1931
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,248
we receive are what's been

1932
01:03:48,248 --> 01:03:48,948
approved. Usually that

1933
01:03:48,948 --> 01:03:51,948
committee convenes to go over

1934
01:03:52,118 --> 01:03:53,619
the l Happ. The plan itself

1935
01:03:53,619 --> 01:03:55,888
and to make any changes to

1936
01:03:55,888 --> 01:03:56,723
that plan. That plan also has

1937
01:03:56,723 --> 01:03:58,424
to get approved by the state.

1938
01:03:58,424 --> 01:03:59,920
So there's a lot of processes

1939
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:01,695
with that. The committee is

1940
01:04:01,695 --> 01:04:02,829
one step in that process.

1941
01:04:02,829 --> 01:04:03,563
>> And I know the emergencies

1942
01:04:03,563 --> 01:04:07,334
huge. You have to do that. But

1943
01:04:07,334 --> 01:04:07,934
I mean, get The committee and

1944
01:04:07,934 --> 01:04:08,635
they brought it to the

1945
01:04:08,635 --> 01:04:11,635
commission and we were paying

1946
01:04:11,738 --> 01:04:12,439
first last and security. So,

1947
01:04:12,439 --> 01:04:14,574
you know, and that affected a

1948
01:04:14,574 --> 01:04:17,574
lot of landlords because it

1949
01:04:19,713 --> 01:04:20,414
the Randleman that go to

1950
01:04:20,414 --> 01:04:22,814
Commissioner good bridge get

1951
01:04:23,917 --> 01:04:24,784
all that paid up front. So we

1952
01:04:24,784 --> 01:04:25,718
changed said I think now then

1953
01:04:25,718 --> 01:04:29,318
we can pay the security that

1954
01:04:29,989 --> 01:04:31,791
we can pay first and security.

1955
01:04:31,791 --> 01:04:32,525
Abe is was it the first and

1956
01:04:32,525 --> 01:04:33,192
last but not whichever

1957
01:04:33,192 --> 01:04:33,927
whichever way it is because

1958
01:04:33,927 --> 01:04:36,697
somebody have some skin in the

1959
01:04:36,697 --> 01:04:39,697
game. Might be something we

1960
01:04:44,371 --> 01:04:45,380
want to talk about. Thank you.

1961
01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:47,438
Any questions comments for

1962
01:04:57,550 --> 01:04:58,185
that one? Thank you so much.

1963
01:04:58,185 --> 01:04:59,519
>> Our next fund in your

1964
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:00,454
budget Workbook should be on

1965
01:05:00,454 --> 01:05:02,854
Page 209. Is the community

1966
01:05:05,525 --> 01:05:06,125
development block grant. These

1967
01:05:06,125 --> 01:05:06,960
funds receive due to

1968
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,195
completion of a previous cdbg

1969
01:05:09,195 --> 01:05:11,595
disaster relief program and

1970
01:05:11,999 --> 01:05:13,333
which homes were rehab due to

1971
01:05:13,333 --> 01:05:15,733
damages from Hurricane Wilma

1972
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:19,720
in 2005, you can see

1973
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,720
year-over-year these funds

1974
01:05:32,486 --> 01:05:34,486
don't change. It's $61,553.

1975
01:05:34,822 --> 01:05:37,822
>> questions? So what can we

1976
01:05:40,193 --> 01:05:42,193
do with it?

1977
01:05:43,364 --> 01:05:44,231
>> We are still researching I

1978
01:05:44,231 --> 01:05:45,133
know prior administration had

1979
01:05:45,133 --> 01:05:48,133
they've had some turnover with

1980
01:05:53,541 --> 01:05:54,641
when this. Program came

1981
01:05:54,641 --> 01:05:57,410
Implementation and we are

1982
01:05:58,111 --> 01:05:59,146
reaching out to that prior

1983
01:05:59,146 --> 01:06:01,146
administrator within the

1984
01:06:01,349 --> 01:06:02,490
Florida car, Cdbg area

1985
01:06:02,490 --> 01:06:05,519
identify how they can be used

1986
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:07,870
has not been clear to on how

1987
01:06:07,870 --> 01:06:09,255
they can be used. But what we

1988
01:06:09,255 --> 01:06:10,390
do know it can be used for

1989
01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:11,958
affordable housing. It's just

1990
01:06:11,958 --> 01:06:12,659
a matter of what you think it

1991
01:06:12,659 --> 01:06:15,659
has before double housing. I

1992
01:06:15,662 --> 01:06:16,330
think it can't be repairs.

1993
01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:19,330
>> I'm thinking about if we

1994
01:06:19,633 --> 01:06:20,434
could use it every day, Hrs

1995
01:06:20,434 --> 01:06:21,350
bill, what it what it can do

1996
01:06:21,350 --> 01:06:21,869
that health department

1997
01:06:21,869 --> 01:06:24,269
building follow the things

1998
01:06:24,805 --> 01:06:27,805
you're doing, did it. Justin?

1999
01:06:28,108 --> 01:06:29,176
So that would that would help

2000
01:06:29,176 --> 01:06:31,111
tremendously. You got to just

2001
01:06:31,111 --> 01:06:31,845
pay attention to what are the

2002
01:06:31,845 --> 01:06:32,546
guidelines no hurricane

2003
01:06:32,546 --> 01:06:34,148
repairs. And so this is going

2004
01:06:34,148 --> 01:06:37,451
to be in preparation for. As

2005
01:06:37,451 --> 01:06:38,185
shelter.

2006
01:06:38,185 --> 01:06:40,320
>> But hurricane repairs going

2007
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,320
to referenced to.

2008
01:06:44,524 --> 01:06:45,258
Constituency. I believe when

2009
01:06:45,258 --> 01:06:47,658
you read community development

2010
01:06:50,764 --> 01:06:51,965
block grants. Not 4

2011
01:06:51,965 --> 01:06:52,968
infrastructure, infrastructure

2012
01:06:52,968 --> 01:06:55,968
for the county is descendants

2013
01:06:56,104 --> 01:06:56,804
ask in this. Ask.

2014
01:06:56,804 --> 01:07:00,374
>> mean, if could use it for

2015
01:07:00,374 --> 01:07:03,374
something to The benefit the

2016
01:07:06,247 --> 01:07:06,880
tax payers would be good.

2017
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,280
>> Only a problem. People

2018
01:07:10,518 --> 01:07:13,518
which Thank you, MISS What

2019
01:07:14,688 --> 01:07:15,289
else?

2020
01:07:15,289 --> 01:07:18,258
>> Our next fun is the

2021
01:07:18,258 --> 01:07:18,892
Landfill Trust Fund, which is

2022
01:07:18,892 --> 01:07:21,892
page to 13 in your budget

2023
01:07:22,696 --> 01:07:24,310
workbook. This is a special

2024
01:07:24,310 --> 01:07:25,899
revenue fund used to account

2025
01:07:25,899 --> 01:07:26,901
for a portion of solid waste,

2026
01:07:26,901 --> 01:07:28,869
host fees to the private

2027
01:07:28,869 --> 01:07:30,300
contractor operating the

2028
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:31,171
Okeechobee Landfill. These are

2029
01:07:31,171 --> 01:07:31,806
committed by the county

2030
01:07:31,806 --> 01:07:34,806
ordinance to a reserve to

2031
01:07:35,420 --> 01:07:35,642
allow county funds to provide

2032
01:07:35,642 --> 01:07:36,343
the service. Should the

2033
01:07:36,343 --> 01:07:39,313
landfill be reverted back to

2034
01:07:39,313 --> 01:07:40,847
the county? So our current

2035
01:07:40,847 --> 01:07:43,847
budget for the fiscal year

2036
01:07:44,852 --> 01:07:46,852
proposed. 26 27 operating

2037
01:07:48,755 --> 01:07:51,155
expenses are $606,667. The non

2038
01:07:51,592 --> 01:07:53,828
operating costs for the sick

2039
01:07:53,828 --> 01:07:55,828
out. Our 2, 10 million,

2040
01:07:57,865 --> 01:07:59,865
675,000, $171 for a total

2041
01:08:02,604 --> 01:08:04,500
budget of 10 million, 681,000,

2042
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:06,500
$838, which is a 0.5 5%

2043
01:08:18,652 --> 01:08:19,386
increase.

2044
01:08:19,386 --> 01:08:20,540
>> How much do we owe it to

2045
01:08:20,540 --> 01:08:23,654
much of we've taken out of

2046
01:08:24,958 --> 01:08:26,627
there. So in loans longer

2047
01:08:26,627 --> 01:08:27,995
things that we take out like

2048
01:08:27,995 --> 01:08:30,398
for the boat ramp and things

2049
01:08:30,398 --> 01:08:33,998
like then much to really. It's

2050
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:36,270
still Would you like for me to

2051
01:08:36,270 --> 01:08:37,270
provide you that don't know.

2052
01:08:37,270 --> 01:08:38,438
It's okay. I'm I'm just say

2053
01:08:38,438 --> 01:08:40,740
I'm not trying on the spot.

2054
01:08:40,740 --> 01:08:42,209
I'm just trying to have a

2055
01:08:42,209 --> 01:08:43,710
discussion. So, you know, the

2056
01:08:43,710 --> 01:08:44,411
we we had discussion of the

2057
01:08:44,411 --> 01:08:47,448
day is we don't have too many

2058
01:08:47,448 --> 01:08:48,649
reserves. Will it

2059
01:08:48,649 --> 01:08:49,483
>> Repay the money we take and

2060
01:08:49,483 --> 01:08:52,483
hear your reserves would be

2061
01:08:52,553 --> 01:08:54,355
inland and you still have. The

2062
01:08:54,355 --> 01:08:57,900
fund there could be used for.

2063
01:08:57,900 --> 01:09:00,900
Multiple things. I was under

2064
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,796
the impression that. For the

2065
01:09:01,796 --> 01:09:04,665
time of the air ramp. So that

2066
01:09:04,665 --> 01:09:08,265
was alone. And we're going to

2067
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:11,673
repay through. The money we

2068
01:09:11,673 --> 01:09:12,374
could get from the boating

2069
01:09:12,374 --> 01:09:14,774
Improvement trust fund and

2070
01:09:16,343 --> 01:09:17,770
money from Bass Pro.

2071
01:09:17,770 --> 01:09:18,779
>> What that would that we had

2072
01:09:18,779 --> 01:09:19,814
to take out of here. But it

2073
01:09:19,814 --> 01:09:22,814
won't. It wouldn't pay the

2074
01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:29,824
whole out to do that. We would

2075
01:09:29,824 --> 01:09:30,458
take many other finance a fire

2076
01:09:30,458 --> 01:09:32,858
trucks things like that.

2077
01:09:34,362 --> 01:09:35,620
That's a lie. That's always

2078
01:09:35,620 --> 01:09:35,729
voted on day was to take the

2079
01:09:35,729 --> 01:09:39,329
money out of there to fund

2080
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:42,303
that.

2081
01:09:42,303 --> 01:09:43,400
>> going question it was

2082
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,604
alone. We're going to play it

2083
01:09:46,907 --> 01:09:50,507
back pro closing money and the

2084
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:55,383
boater Improvement Trust fund.

2085
01:09:55,383 --> 01:09:56,451
>> That was put that money

2086
01:09:56,451 --> 01:10:00,510
back where they just so. That

2087
01:10:02,230 --> 01:10:05,623
was a model. He was right.

2088
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,235
Mark this down.

2089
01:10:15,235 --> 01:10:18,835
>> What we can use the city.

2090
01:10:21,209 --> 01:10:25,380
>> Bpg. So it can be used on

2091
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:27,380
public facilities. Okay.

2092
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:29,116
Here's some money for you.

2093
01:10:29,116 --> 01:10:29,783
Have over there your

2094
01:10:29,783 --> 01:10:32,183
conditions or whatever you

2095
01:10:32,954 --> 01:10:36,554
have. You will have repay the

2096
01:10:36,858 --> 01:10:38,858
landfill. Trust. The

2097
01:10:41,262 --> 01:10:43,262
pardoning.

2098
01:10:47,735 --> 01:10:50,135
>> a Category 4 or whatever.

2099
01:10:53,407 --> 01:10:54,842
>> Anything else on this one.

2100
01:10:54,842 --> 01:10:55,477
Okay. Next to have MISTER

2101
01:10:55,477 --> 01:10:57,877
Nelson for the cemetery.

2102
01:11:06,821 --> 01:11:09,821
Trust. That would be to 18

2103
01:11:10,910 --> 01:11:10,725
street team. So.

2104
01:11:10,725 --> 01:11:11,292
>> Good morning. CHAIRMAN

2105
01:11:11,292 --> 01:11:13,292
Commissioners County

2106
01:11:15,463 --> 01:11:16,131
administrator. In front of you

2107
01:11:16,131 --> 01:11:18,531
presenting for the cemetery

2108
01:11:20,735 --> 01:11:21,769
trust fund. So im personnel

2109
01:11:21,769 --> 01:11:24,769
services. We have an increase

2110
01:11:24,839 --> 01:11:27,239
of $3,864, which is an

2111
01:11:30,780 --> 01:11:31,130
increase of 4.9 0% operating

2112
01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:33,982
expenses. We have an increase

2113
01:11:33,982 --> 01:11:36,382
of $9,284 at 13.7, 8%. And I

2114
01:11:38,353 --> 01:11:40,321
just want to bring up the

2115
01:11:40,321 --> 01:11:42,658
reason for that kind of

2116
01:11:42,658 --> 01:11:44,258
increase for that, that will

2117
01:11:44,258 --> 01:11:44,959
be this will be a single year

2118
01:11:44,959 --> 01:11:45,693
increase because if the

2119
01:11:45,693 --> 01:11:48,930
capital items are approved,

2120
01:11:48,329 --> 01:11:52,300
some of that is too fund the

2121
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:53,100
furniture. And some of those

2122
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:56,404
items that would come out of

2123
01:11:56,404 --> 01:11:57,439
that non capital for that

2124
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,139
renovation or that

2125
01:11:58,139 --> 01:12:00,408
improvement. That is it. That

2126
01:12:00,408 --> 01:12:01,609
is shown within our capital.

2127
01:12:01,609 --> 01:12:02,410
So some of this will to be

2128
01:12:02,410 --> 01:12:04,450
like the fte in some of those

2129
01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:07,140
items will be coming out. That

2130
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:07,649
said this is kind of just a

2131
01:12:07,649 --> 01:12:09,649
one-year increase. That's

2132
01:12:11,185 --> 01:12:13,185
significant increase this

2133
01:12:16,230 --> 01:12:19,230
year. Capital expenses we are.

2134
01:12:19,628 --> 01:12:21,729
We're looking at it. $67,000

2135
01:12:21,729 --> 01:12:22,764
and capital moving forward for

2136
01:12:22,764 --> 01:12:24,466
that. And that would be for

2137
01:12:24,466 --> 01:12:25,634
the office. We've course built

2138
01:12:25,634 --> 01:12:27,568
the building over the last 2

2139
01:12:27,568 --> 01:12:30,568
years. We've got the building

2140
01:12:30,805 --> 01:12:31,873
built, but this would be for

2141
01:12:31,873 --> 01:12:32,807
the actual bill doubt of the

2142
01:12:32,807 --> 01:12:33,507
building. That would be the

2143
01:12:33,507 --> 01:12:34,243
ada compliant restrooms that

2144
01:12:34,243 --> 01:12:36,445
we will have an ad, a restroom

2145
01:12:36,445 --> 01:12:39,981
at that site and it would be

2146
01:12:39,981 --> 01:12:43,251
the office building for the on

2147
01:12:43,251 --> 01:12:45,353
site Cemetery office. And

2148
01:12:45,353 --> 01:12:46,354
other than that, we have at

2149
01:12:46,354 --> 01:12:48,556
Fort Drum there says they've

2150
01:12:48,556 --> 01:12:50,326
done a lot of fence repairs

2151
01:12:50,326 --> 01:12:50,992
there previous years, but we

2152
01:12:50,992 --> 01:12:53,940
do have a divider fence. We

2153
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:55,663
need to keep people. We kind

2154
01:12:55,663 --> 01:12:57,633
of have an issue with some

2155
01:12:57,633 --> 01:13:00,330
people they currently living

2156
01:13:01,403 --> 01:13:02,403
behind the back side of it. So

2157
01:13:02,403 --> 01:13:03,438
they've done a really good job

2158
01:13:03,438 --> 01:13:04,605
of clearing most of that

2159
01:13:04,605 --> 01:13:06,541
property now. But we do need

2160
01:13:06,541 --> 01:13:07,575
to divide that property off

2161
01:13:07,575 --> 01:13:08,309
and that would be for the

2162
01:13:08,309 --> 01:13:11,309
divider, fence gates and stuff

2163
01:13:13,281 --> 01:13:14,950
for that area. So and and

2164
01:13:14,950 --> 01:13:16,150
total when you look at it in

2165
01:13:16,150 --> 01:13:17,152
total, our total operating and

2166
01:13:17,152 --> 01:13:19,552
non-operating. We've got a

2167
01:13:19,788 --> 01:13:21,788
reduction of 2.0, 8, 5, 0%. I

2168
01:13:22,758 --> 01:13:25,828
do want to bring up when I

2169
01:13:25,828 --> 01:13:26,995
took over the cemetery in

2170
01:13:26,995 --> 01:13:28,430
2021. Myself and Shelley

2171
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:30,432
Mitchell took over the

2172
01:13:30,432 --> 01:13:32,667
cemetery. We put David Jay

2173
01:13:32,667 --> 01:13:34,469
Cups and there is a cemetery

2174
01:13:34,469 --> 01:13:36,137
running and operating the

2175
01:13:36,137 --> 01:13:39,137
cemetery. At that time. The

2176
01:13:39,508 --> 01:13:40,441
county's contribution to the

2177
01:13:40,441 --> 01:13:42,441
cemetery around $60,000 a

2178
01:13:44,980 --> 01:13:45,748
year. When we look at it after

2179
01:13:45,748 --> 01:13:48,148
these last few capital

2180
01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:50,853
expenses are done the cemetery

2181
01:13:50,853 --> 01:13:53,880
revenues. We'll cover the

2182
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,488
cemetery operational costs. So

2183
01:13:56,958 --> 01:13:58,600
we are almost at a break-even.

2184
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,162
We're real close this year,

2185
01:14:00,162 --> 01:14:00,896
but we will have these flash

2186
01:14:00,896 --> 01:14:04,496
few capital we would have last

2187
01:14:04,799 --> 01:14:05,434
year except for we did. Have a

2188
01:14:05,434 --> 01:14:06,168
vehicle purchase and some

2189
01:14:06,168 --> 01:14:07,102
other stuff that had to happen

2190
01:14:07,102 --> 01:14:10,702
last budget year. But you will

2191
01:14:12,141 --> 01:14:12,875
see. This fund moving forward

2192
01:14:12,875 --> 01:14:16,211
into the next years will cover

2193
01:14:16,211 --> 01:14:16,878
with their revenues. So we're

2194
01:14:16,878 --> 01:14:20,415
pretty excited to see it go

2195
01:14:20,415 --> 01:14:21,116
from that 60,000 Ish and comes

2196
01:14:21,116 --> 01:14:24,119
out of the small county cert

2197
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:27,119
taxes. Covered this budget for

2198
01:14:27,922 --> 01:14:28,590
multiple years. 60,000 we've

2199
01:14:28,590 --> 01:14:30,892
we've seen reduce over the

2200
01:14:30,892 --> 01:14:31,693
years of 60,000 the first

2201
01:14:31,693 --> 01:14:34,930
year. I think 50,000 next

2202
01:14:35,463 --> 01:14:36,130
year, 30,000 and then and then

2203
01:14:36,130 --> 01:14:38,433
so on and so forth that has

2204
01:14:38,433 --> 01:14:39,435
reduced every single year. And

2205
01:14:39,435 --> 01:14:40,769
I'm confident the next year

2206
01:14:40,769 --> 01:14:43,238
when we bring this budget, he

2207
01:14:43,238 --> 01:14:45,273
all it will be a

2208
01:14:45,273 --> 01:14:46,975
self-sustaining department. So

2209
01:14:46,975 --> 01:14:47,609
I got give kudos to David and

2210
01:14:47,609 --> 01:14:49,912
to Shelley to making this

2211
01:14:49,912 --> 01:14:50,745
department more efficient and

2212
01:14:50,745 --> 01:14:51,446
doing what they've had to do.

2213
01:14:51,446 --> 01:14:53,882
That was my main goal. When I

2214
01:14:53,882 --> 01:14:55,551
took department over what's

2215
01:14:55,551 --> 01:14:57,386
how do we make it

2216
01:14:57,386 --> 01:14:59,488
self-sufficient? And we are

2217
01:14:59,488 --> 01:15:00,390
almost there. So I think

2218
01:15:00,390 --> 01:15:02,124
coming into next year, we will

2219
01:15:02,124 --> 01:15:02,825
see that happen along with the

2220
01:15:02,825 --> 01:15:05,825
fee increase that that's very

2221
01:15:06,962 --> 01:15:07,696
promising. I just wanted to

2222
01:15:07,696 --> 01:15:08,396
definitely let all understand.

2223
01:15:08,396 --> 01:15:11,996
That's been the goal from day

2224
01:15:14,770 --> 01:15:15,904
one with this. Big deal. You

2225
01:15:15,904 --> 01:15:16,571
and the governor over the head

2226
01:15:16,571 --> 01:15:18,971
because your final resting

2227
01:15:20,375 --> 01:15:21,277
place. You don't have to

2228
01:15:21,277 --> 01:15:22,244
>> We ought pay taxes on So

2229
01:15:22,244 --> 01:15:22,945
he's got he would be really

2230
01:15:22,945 --> 01:15:26,545
happy. He has a thought about

2231
01:15:30,286 --> 01:15:30,752
this

2232
01:15:30,752 --> 01:15:31,420
>> Good.

2233
01:15:31,420 --> 01:15:33,820
>> Any other any questions?

2234
01:15:34,856 --> 01:15:35,457
Anything but ok?

2235
01:15:35,457 --> 01:15:36,158
>> Did that did I MISS

2236
01:15:36,158 --> 01:15:38,558
Something about your 67? That

2237
01:15:39,228 --> 01:15:41,228
sorry.

2238
01:15:41,229 --> 01:15:42,364
>> The 67,000 has my total

2239
01:15:42,364 --> 01:15:44,199
capital. So 62,000 of that is

2240
01:15:44,199 --> 01:15:46,736
for the build out of the

2241
01:15:46,736 --> 01:15:50,336
building that we put on site 2

2242
01:15:51,673 --> 01:15:52,407
years ago.

2243
01:15:52,407 --> 01:15:53,109
>> restraint yesterday will be

2244
01:15:53,109 --> 01:15:56,709
it'll be the buildout for the

2245
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:57,947
on-side office. What noticed.

2246
01:15:57,947 --> 01:15:58,614
>> David

2247
01:15:58,614 --> 01:15:59,314
>> Jacobs has to make those

2248
01:15:59,314 --> 01:16:01,383
trips back and forth to town

2249
01:16:01,383 --> 01:16:03,353
to meet with clients. So they

2250
01:16:03,353 --> 01:16:05,555
they meet at the office at the

2251
01:16:05,555 --> 01:16:06,823
annex building. They take out

2252
01:16:06,823 --> 01:16:08,457
there and then they want to go

2253
01:16:08,457 --> 01:16:10,692
back to the office, reviewed

2254
01:16:10,692 --> 01:16:11,394
the maps or look at sites

2255
01:16:11,394 --> 01:16:13,394
sitting air-conditioning with

2256
01:16:16,298 --> 01:16:17,867
the clients. 2, 3, years ago,

2257
01:16:17,867 --> 01:16:20,469
we did a build-out of the shed

2258
01:16:20,469 --> 01:16:21,470
that was on site so that David

2259
01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:22,137
could just an air-conditioned

2260
01:16:22,137 --> 01:16:23,339
office space. So David can

2261
01:16:23,339 --> 01:16:26,339
meet with the clients out

2262
01:16:26,976 --> 01:16:27,676
there and it made a huge of

2263
01:16:27,676 --> 01:16:30,846
just travel time. His time to

2264
01:16:30,846 --> 01:16:32,114
get spent on site. That was

2265
01:16:32,114 --> 01:16:34,830
the main purpose of pushing

2266
01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:34,784
forward for the new building,

2267
01:16:34,784 --> 01:16:35,417
the new maintenance building

2268
01:16:35,417 --> 01:16:38,417
out there and adding this

2269
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:39,422
office space there along with

2270
01:16:39,422 --> 01:16:40,122
those restrooms of any of you

2271
01:16:40,122 --> 01:16:42,900
have ever used restrooms out

2272
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:45,661
there. Your knees hit the door

2273
01:16:45,661 --> 01:16:46,328
when you close the door,

2274
01:16:46,328 --> 01:16:46,995
literally, I'm not. I mean,

2275
01:16:46,995 --> 01:16:49,995
your knees are touching the

2276
01:16:50,299 --> 01:16:52,368
wall to sit on the toilet. So

2277
01:16:52,368 --> 01:16:53,402
we really needed additional

2278
01:16:53,402 --> 01:16:54,136
restroom side out there. And

2279
01:16:54,136 --> 01:16:57,736
that will be funded. Also with

2280
01:16:59,141 --> 01:16:59,808
the ada compliant bathroom.

2281
01:16:59,808 --> 01:17:01,377
And then, of course, I said

2282
01:17:01,377 --> 01:17:04,380
the fence at Fort Drum would

2283
01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:05,615
be the other 5,000 of that. I

2284
01:17:05,615 --> 01:17:09,215
finally found the back on the

2285
01:17:12,856 --> 01:17:13,556
last. One of All right. Cool.

2286
01:17:13,556 --> 01:17:16,556
>> The question, did kind of

2287
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:23,650
come in impasse? One out 98

2288
01:17:23,650 --> 01:17:24,133
fast, but that's or cemetery.

2289
01:17:24,133 --> 01:17:25,201
We're trying to get some

2290
01:17:25,201 --> 01:17:28,700
property there to that for

2291
01:17:28,700 --> 01:17:31,700
reach an impasse. Well, you

2292
01:17:32,740 --> 01:17:33,442
Yes, sir. The property sold

2293
01:17:33,442 --> 01:17:35,644
but I can tell you we will

2294
01:17:35,644 --> 01:17:37,347
keep working with those

2295
01:17:37,347 --> 01:17:38,347
landowners that are adjacent

2296
01:17:38,347 --> 01:17:42,170
to that to try to figure out

2297
01:17:42,170 --> 01:17:44,200
how we can get the main goal

2298
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,254
out there. If we could break

2299
01:17:45,254 --> 01:17:47,900
it into just a big box because

2300
01:17:47,900 --> 01:17:49,910
we kind of got some jogs and

2301
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:52,910
that property. It's kind of.

2302
01:17:54,263 --> 01:17:54,997
Built like a Tetris z the goal

2303
01:17:54,997 --> 01:17:55,631
would be the kind of build

2304
01:17:55,631 --> 01:17:58,631
that property out into a

2305
01:17:58,767 --> 01:18:01,671
single box. But we were trying

2306
01:18:01,671 --> 01:18:02,405
to work something out with the

2307
01:18:02,405 --> 01:18:03,720
previous landowner. It did not

2308
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,574
come to fruition before the

2309
01:18:05,574 --> 01:18:07,760
whole entire property sold.

2310
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:08,311
But I can tell you as soon as

2311
01:18:08,311 --> 01:18:10,246
we have a little extra free

2312
01:18:10,246 --> 01:18:12,115
time and we get things changed

2313
01:18:12,115 --> 01:18:14,283
around, we will go back to

2314
01:18:14,283 --> 01:18:15,840
talking with the 2 adjacent

2315
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,200
landowners to see if we can

2316
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:18,921
get that piece brought into a

2317
01:18:18,921 --> 01:18:22,521
box. But I will say that.

2318
01:18:22,793 --> 01:18:24,260
David Jay Cups, Shelley and

2319
01:18:24,260 --> 01:18:27,162
myself have added sites to

2320
01:18:27,162 --> 01:18:30,162
their sellable sites again by

2321
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360
looking at an utilize space

2322
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:33,837
David did that last year. And

2323
01:18:33,837 --> 01:18:34,537
those sites are now available.

2324
01:18:34,537 --> 01:18:38,137
So we do have available sites

2325
01:18:38,140 --> 01:18:40,900
out there. That space that

2326
01:18:40,900 --> 01:18:41,678
were never built out for

2327
01:18:41,678 --> 01:18:43,546
sites. So it there is some

2328
01:18:43,546 --> 01:18:45,348
additional sites that came

2329
01:18:45,348 --> 01:18:46,916
into play. Some of them are

2330
01:18:46,916 --> 01:18:47,951
only be used for cremation

2331
01:18:47,951 --> 01:18:51,551
because there's kind of how it

2332
01:18:51,754 --> 01:18:53,756
fits within the site plan. But

2333
01:18:53,756 --> 01:18:54,423
those sites are now available

2334
01:18:54,423 --> 01:18:58,623
in a show on on our website

2335
01:18:58,828 --> 01:18:59,762
are on our cemetery software

2336
01:18:59,762 --> 01:19:00,463
program to wear those sites

2337
01:19:00,463 --> 01:19:03,463
are available and what those

2338
01:19:05,401 --> 01:19:06,680
sites are. So means Throw a

2339
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:06,769
monkey wrench in the blasts

2340
01:19:06,769 --> 01:19:07,236
are hearing that just popped

2341
01:19:07,236 --> 01:19:09,636
in my mind to.

2342
01:19:10,373 --> 01:19:11,140
>> I think your time at the

2343
01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:14,740
Texas it was an access issue

2344
01:19:14,944 --> 01:19:17,680
that. Yeah, that that we have

2345
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,450
no legal right back to get be

2346
01:19:20,450 --> 01:19:20,783
ever looked at the deed to Cs

2347
01:19:20,783 --> 01:19:21,484
for it.

2348
01:19:21,484 --> 01:19:22,218
>> We've we've met with legal

2349
01:19:22,218 --> 01:19:23,820
multiple multiple times, tried

2350
01:19:23,820 --> 01:19:27,420
to figure out how we could

2351
01:19:29,126 --> 01:19:31,127
make that work in the radiator

2352
01:19:31,127 --> 01:19:31,828
previous board had had signed

2353
01:19:31,828 --> 01:19:34,828
the property over legally to

2354
01:19:39,169 --> 01:19:40,303
the adjacent landowner. We do

2355
01:19:40,303 --> 01:19:41,400
have all the records that

2356
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:41,671
reflect that and we've tried

2357
01:19:41,671 --> 01:19:43,139
to figure out how we could

2358
01:19:43,139 --> 01:19:46,739
make that work. But I think

2359
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:47,943
with our new. If we can make

2360
01:19:47,943 --> 01:19:49,212
this other deal work out, it

2361
01:19:49,212 --> 01:19:50,146
would help with that traffic

2362
01:19:50,146 --> 01:19:53,746
pattern. We would be able to

2363
01:19:54,170 --> 01:19:54,984
put a circle road in to come

2364
01:19:54,984 --> 01:19:56,386
back out. So there is some

2365
01:19:56,386 --> 01:19:57,454
thought process that was in

2366
01:19:57,454 --> 01:19:59,121
that next land acquisition

2367
01:19:59,121 --> 01:20:00,390
part that we thought we were

2368
01:20:00,390 --> 01:20:01,570
working on before the whole

2369
01:20:01,570 --> 01:20:04,570
property. And that's on the

2370
01:20:04,261 --> 01:20:07,861
one owner. Yes, or any other

2371
01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:11,670
questions. Impressive when the

2372
01:20:11,670 --> 01:20:14,670
people go there, the kiosk

2373
01:20:14,270 --> 01:20:15,472
fund.

2374
01:20:15,472 --> 01:20:16,839
>> Fun to graze and know that

2375
01:20:16,839 --> 01:20:17,574
they knew they say they can

2376
01:20:17,574 --> 01:20:18,241
read in a vehicle in there Cam

2377
01:20:18,241 --> 01:20:21,210
right to it all in and the

2378
01:20:21,210 --> 01:20:21,778
maintenance out there They've

2379
01:20:21,778 --> 01:20:22,445
done a great job. We

2380
01:20:22,445 --> 01:20:24,845
appreciate what you've And

2381
01:20:25,949 --> 01:20:26,650
thank you, Michelle Lee, for

2382
01:20:26,650 --> 01:20:27,417
they didn't charge. It's all

2383
01:20:27,417 --> 01:20:28,170
on them to they've done it.

2384
01:20:28,170 --> 01:20:28,451
I've just been there to

2385
01:20:28,451 --> 01:20:30,451
support him.

2386
01:20:42,699 --> 01:20:44,200
>> So

2387
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,800
>> our next fund is page to 21

2388
01:20:48,380 --> 01:20:50,390
in your work, folks. It's the

2389
01:20:50,390 --> 01:20:51,140
driver Education Safety Trust

2390
01:20:51,140 --> 01:20:54,140
Fund established as a result

2391
01:20:54,678 --> 01:20:55,679
of Florida statute. 3, 18.1,

2392
01:20:55,679 --> 01:20:57,679
2, 1, 5, the Dorie Slosberg

2393
01:20:59,249 --> 01:21:01,251
Driver Education Safety Act.

2394
01:21:01,251 --> 01:21:04,251
The proposed budget for fiscal

2395
01:21:06,990 --> 01:21:08,990
year 26. 27 is $153,745, which

2396
01:21:22,172 --> 01:21:22,939
is a 2.0 2% increase.

2397
01:21:22,939 --> 01:21:25,939
>> It's still don't have any

2398
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:28,779
cars right? This is a special

2399
01:21:28,779 --> 01:21:30,981
revenue fund, correct. There

2400
01:21:30,981 --> 01:21:31,648
is no cost to the county.

2401
01:21:31,648 --> 01:21:32,349
Those were there and have a

2402
01:21:32,349 --> 01:21:33,349
new automobile says that the

2403
01:21:33,349 --> 01:21:34,500
one that we have its driver,

2404
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:35,719
safety education and the name

2405
01:21:35,719 --> 01:21:38,119
of the automobiles. According

2406
01:21:39,422 --> 01:21:39,990
to this, you can't.

2407
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:40,857
>> Receive the funds

2408
01:21:40,857 --> 01:21:41,491
initiative 30% of the students

2409
01:21:41,491 --> 01:21:44,491
time being spent and the

2410
01:21:44,828 --> 01:21:48,366
weave. Guess it's a no go

2411
01:21:48,366 --> 01:21:50,766
then. School doesn't have

2412
01:21:52,802 --> 01:21:53,470
cars. And if you read your

2413
01:21:53,470 --> 01:21:55,870
requirements here, you that

2414
01:21:57,174 --> 01:22:00,174
had 30%. Behind the wheel. I

2415
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,440
don't know what the electronic

2416
01:22:05,810 --> 01:22:07,481
things you're sitting in.

2417
01:22:08,285 --> 01:22:09,219
>> And Melissa Layer I don't

2418
01:22:09,219 --> 01:22:11,888
know if it know that's

2419
01:22:11,888 --> 01:22:12,555
something I even as as behind

2420
01:22:12,555 --> 01:22:13,257
the wheel. More the center

2421
01:22:13,257 --> 01:22:13,924
later, is that remember, that

2422
01:22:13,924 --> 01:22:16,324
was explained couple. Maybe

2423
01:22:18,395 --> 01:22:20,797
they have I just always stuff.

2424
01:22:20,797 --> 01:22:24,200
That was a big. The big toast

2425
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,800
of We didn't have any course

2426
01:22:29,707 --> 01:22:30,374
for drivers, education. We

2427
01:22:30,374 --> 01:22:33,974
might leave that one You we

2428
01:22:35,279 --> 01:22:38,279
don't know your stories. Know.

2429
01:22:38,649 --> 01:22:42,249
Okay. MISS Lisa. Our next fun

2430
01:22:45,222 --> 01:22:46,423
is court innovation.

2431
01:22:46,423 --> 01:22:47,824
>> So these are court costs

2432
01:22:47,824 --> 01:22:50,224
imposed by county ordinance

2433
01:22:51,828 --> 01:22:52,696
2004, Dash 0, 5, to establish

2434
01:22:52,696 --> 01:22:54,598
and maintain innovation and

2435
01:22:54,598 --> 01:22:56,598
supplemental court funding

2436
01:22:56,868 --> 01:22:57,602
trust fund the remaining

2437
01:22:57,602 --> 01:22:59,804
balances of the law Library,

2438
01:22:59,804 --> 01:23:01,738
legal aid and teen court funds

2439
01:23:01,738 --> 01:23:03,874
are transferred to court

2440
01:23:03,874 --> 01:23:04,775
innovations. A portion of the

2441
01:23:04,775 --> 01:23:07,175
court administration budget is

2442
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:08,678
budgeted in this fun for

2443
01:23:08,678 --> 01:23:09,947
equipment. So the operating

2444
01:23:09,947 --> 01:23:13,547
cost in this fun or 80,000 for

2445
01:23:13,883 --> 01:23:15,883
fiscal year, 26, 27 capital

2446
01:23:17,821 --> 01:23:19,821
outlay is $18,630, not

2447
01:23:21,725 --> 01:23:24,125
operating as $208,365 for a

2448
01:23:25,962 --> 01:23:28,362
total budget of $306,995. This

2449
01:23:32,336 --> 01:23:33,336
is a 0.6 1% increase.

2450
01:23:33,336 --> 01:23:33,971
>> what are the What type of

2451
01:23:33,971 --> 01:23:35,500
equipment are we talking

2452
01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:37,405
about? Heard the indicate.

2453
01:23:39,743 --> 01:23:40,544
>> They did not know.

2454
01:23:40,544 --> 01:23:42,544
>> This is interesting.

2455
01:23:42,612 --> 01:23:45,782
Equipment out Lee is the same.

2456
01:23:45,782 --> 01:23:48,182
For the last 4 years.

2457
01:23:48,953 --> 01:23:49,653
>> It's the same budget

2458
01:23:49,653 --> 01:23:50,354
request year-over-year.

2459
01:23:50,354 --> 01:23:51,210
Commissioner, like for me to

2460
01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:53,210
have specific information.

2461
01:23:54,358 --> 01:23:55,250
Back to you on that chair.

2462
01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:57,425
Commissioners, I know that

2463
01:23:57,828 --> 01:23:58,562
this fund.

2464
01:23:58,562 --> 01:24:00,962
>> Sometimes is majority. This

2465
01:24:02,566 --> 01:24:05,566
is for security equipment, its

2466
01:24:06,237 --> 01:24:07,471
replacement of the key pads

2467
01:24:07,471 --> 01:24:08,273
cameras, some of that. That's

2468
01:24:08,273 --> 01:24:09,840
that's the majority of what

2469
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:10,541
I've seen this fund used forth

2470
01:24:10,541 --> 01:24:12,743
because they do come through

2471
01:24:12,743 --> 01:24:14,678
facilities for approval

2472
01:24:14,678 --> 01:24:15,512
whenever they do that. And I

2473
01:24:15,512 --> 01:24:16,313
know that that's part of what

2474
01:24:16,313 --> 01:24:17,781
this is used for, ok? I'm

2475
01:24:17,781 --> 01:24:20,170
trying to understand who

2476
01:24:20,170 --> 01:24:22,652
housing get approved. What is

2477
01:24:22,652 --> 01:24:23,353
what is it used for?

2478
01:24:23,353 --> 01:24:24,550
>> Because it's just odd that

2479
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:27,655
it has the same amount every

2480
01:24:27,825 --> 01:24:28,959
single year.

2481
01:24:28,959 --> 01:24:29,660
>> I will state that my

2482
01:24:29,660 --> 01:24:30,260
predecessor put in play that

2483
01:24:30,260 --> 01:24:31,995
they have to have that

2484
01:24:31,995 --> 01:24:33,995
approved through facilities

2485
01:24:34,865 --> 01:24:35,532
before they can make those

2486
01:24:35,532 --> 01:24:38,532
purchases. And jj and staff

2487
01:24:38,702 --> 01:24:39,603
have done a really good job of

2488
01:24:39,603 --> 01:24:40,337
making sure that when those

2489
01:24:40,337 --> 01:24:43,937
things come up come about that

2490
01:24:44,741 --> 01:24:45,475
they do it so and and there's

2491
01:24:45,475 --> 01:24:48,178
some years that it doesn't get

2492
01:24:48,178 --> 01:24:48,879
used to just it's just they

2493
01:24:48,879 --> 01:24:50,915
budget and they don't use it.

2494
01:24:50,915 --> 01:24:52,916
So it's it's based off of the

2495
01:24:52,916 --> 01:24:55,916
need. They're doing repairs on

2496
01:24:55,953 --> 01:24:56,854
buildings. It's only security

2497
01:24:56,854 --> 01:24:57,988
stuff. They are responsible

2498
01:24:57,988 --> 01:25:01,588
for part of the security and

2499
01:25:02,426 --> 01:25:03,930
this covers that security. But

2500
01:25:03,930 --> 01:25:06,693
we it's it's all it related

2501
01:25:06,964 --> 01:25:07,965
security stuff. Cameras that

2502
01:25:07,965 --> 01:25:08,866
keep at all that they did. It

2503
01:25:08,866 --> 01:25:09,833
handles that for pretty much

2504
01:25:09,833 --> 01:25:11,335
that contract for county wide

2505
01:25:11,335 --> 01:25:14,335
on anything. It's under their

2506
01:25:20,944 --> 01:25:23,344
contract. Anything else. Game

2507
01:25:26,117 --> 01:25:28,117
is Lisa.

2508
01:25:28,352 --> 01:25:29,186
>> Next we have the legal a

2509
01:25:29,186 --> 01:25:31,488
trust fund that this accounts

2510
01:25:31,488 --> 01:25:32,923
for the $5 filing fee for

2511
01:25:32,923 --> 01:25:33,657
civil actions filed in the

2512
01:25:33,657 --> 01:25:36,657
county court, a $10 filing fee

2513
01:25:37,561 --> 01:25:38,629
for civil actions filed in the

2514
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:42,229
circuit court and a $5 fee for

2515
01:25:42,599 --> 01:25:43,334
all probate cases. This fund

2516
01:25:43,334 --> 01:25:45,436
provides legal aid services to

2517
01:25:45,436 --> 01:25:46,270
residents of the county and

2518
01:25:46,270 --> 01:25:48,670
assist in providing legal

2519
01:25:49,730 --> 01:25:50,474
services to indigent residents

2520
01:25:50,474 --> 01:25:51,409
of other county when the venue

2521
01:25:51,409 --> 01:25:53,344
is located in Okeechobee

2522
01:25:53,344 --> 01:25:55,344
County per ordinance. 2004

2523
01:25:57,882 --> 01:26:00,282
Dash, 0, 5, The total proposed

2524
01:26:00,684 --> 01:26:03,840
budget for fiscal year 26, 27

2525
01:26:05,656 --> 01:26:08,560
for operating is $12,535 for

2526
01:26:08,459 --> 01:26:10,859
Non-operating is $1454 for a

2527
01:26:12,730 --> 01:26:14,832
total budget of $13,989. This

2528
01:26:14,832 --> 01:26:16,200
is a flat budget over the

2529
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:16,867
prior fiscal year. And we do

2530
01:26:16,867 --> 01:26:19,267
have a representative here

2531
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:24,605
from the legal a trust fund.

2532
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:25,976
>> Commissioner than Farden.

2533
01:26:25,976 --> 01:26:26,644
In Florida waiting patiently

2534
01:26:26,644 --> 01:26:29,440
it Florida ruled legal

2535
01:26:30,381 --> 01:26:33,584
services or is here to pretty

2536
01:26:33,584 --> 01:26:34,351
much answer any questions. We

2537
01:26:34,351 --> 01:26:36,751
were requesting remain the

2538
01:26:37,889 --> 01:26:40,889
same. We were looking to

2539
01:26:41,926 --> 01:26:44,926
utilize the funds they managed

2540
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,196
to increase our attention

2541
01:26:46,196 --> 01:26:49,196
across the matter. Over the

2542
01:26:49,566 --> 01:26:51,669
past, we have seen an increase

2543
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:54,669
and the amount traffic from

2544
01:26:55,106 --> 01:26:56,400
Okeechobee residents. We had

2545
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,709
187 calls last year. We that

2546
01:26:58,709 --> 01:27:01,109
number that the 2.20 6 this

2547
01:27:01,412 --> 01:27:02,180
year, as you mentioned

2548
01:27:02,180 --> 01:27:04,580
earlier, CHAIRMAN, that there

2549
01:27:05,783 --> 01:27:06,484
had been a increase and

2550
01:27:06,484 --> 01:27:10,840
foreclosure is that of an Our

2551
01:27:12,490 --> 01:27:14,258
clients are. Methinks

2552
01:27:14,258 --> 01:27:16,227
survivors. We are very

2553
01:27:16,227 --> 01:27:16,827
passionate about we are

2554
01:27:16,827 --> 01:27:18,827
increases due financial

2555
01:27:19,430 --> 01:27:22,430
constraints. We that our funds

2556
01:27:24,135 --> 01:27:27,135
remains there. Gary new didn't

2557
01:27:28,500 --> 01:27:31,605
ask me to say hello to.

2558
01:27:35,447 --> 01:27:36,148
>> You can do all that on.

2559
01:27:36,148 --> 01:27:36,848
$14,000. We actually use our

2560
01:27:36,848 --> 01:27:39,248
county money, federal funding

2561
01:27:40,518 --> 01:27:43,518
where lse funded as well?

2562
01:27:46,291 --> 01:27:49,326
>> So this is we try to use

2563
01:27:49,326 --> 01:27:50,461
>> federal or state funding

2564
01:27:50,461 --> 01:27:52,430
before even reach into the But

2565
01:27:52,430 --> 01:27:53,164
but that is there for.

2566
01:27:53,164 --> 01:27:55,564
>> Specifically for our county

2567
01:27:56,368 --> 01:27:58,368
residents.

2568
01:28:01,506 --> 01:28:05,106
>> That makes a lot more sense

2569
01:28:07,779 --> 01:28:11,979
than Tony can would like it. I

2570
01:28:13,451 --> 01:28:15,820
argue Other questions Thank

2571
01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:16,588
you very much. Thank you for

2572
01:28:16,588 --> 01:28:20,788
coming to Who get it where you

2573
01:28:21,893 --> 01:28:22,593
come from. I came from poor

2574
01:28:22,593 --> 01:28:25,497
things. Okay. I actually feel

2575
01:28:25,497 --> 01:28:26,164
good town or ok? Thank you

2576
01:28:26,164 --> 01:28:29,764
very much. Have a safe trip

2577
01:28:34,639 --> 01:28:35,306
going home.

2578
01:28:35,306 --> 01:28:36,700
>> Next one is teen court,

2579
01:28:36,700 --> 01:28:39,607
which is page to 33 and your

2580
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:46,217
budget workbook. Senate bill.

2581
01:28:46,217 --> 01:28:47,850
Not 2, 9, 6, 2 of the 2004

2582
01:28:47,850 --> 01:28:48,452
legislative session allowed

2583
01:28:48,452 --> 01:28:49,120
for the circuit court in

2584
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,520
counties to use accumulated

2585
01:28:51,923 --> 01:28:53,758
teen court money until its

2586
01:28:53,758 --> 01:28:55,526
depleted Okeechobee County

2587
01:28:55,526 --> 01:28:56,128
collects fees for teen court

2588
01:28:56,128 --> 01:28:57,595
and juvenile programs.

2589
01:28:57,595 --> 01:28:59,995
Pursuant to Florida Statute,

2590
01:29:01,366 --> 01:29:03,366
9, 3, 9, 0.1, 8, 5, the clerk

2591
01:29:03,501 --> 01:29:04,869
of court less the 5% income to

2592
01:29:04,869 --> 01:29:07,269
the clerk per county

2593
01:29:08,807 --> 01:29:09,440
ordinance. 9, 6, Dash 0, 5,

2594
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:10,108
This program is under the

2595
01:29:10,108 --> 01:29:11,443
supervision of the Florida

2596
01:29:11,443 --> 01:29:12,244
Department of Juvenile

2597
01:29:12,244 --> 01:29:14,644
Justice. Partnering with other

2598
01:29:16,381 --> 01:29:17,820
agencies in the community. The

2599
01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:20,820
total Budget Ques request for

2600
01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:21,686
this fiscal year is $13,988,

2601
01:29:21,686 --> 01:29:25,286
which is a flat budget over

2602
01:29:26,858 --> 01:29:29,258
the prior year. Self

2603
01:29:32,897 --> 01:29:33,565
explanatory. They will said,

2604
01:29:33,565 --> 01:29:34,266
ok, what's next? MISS Lisa?

2605
01:29:34,266 --> 01:29:37,866
Our next fund is our special

2606
01:29:38,437 --> 01:29:42,370
grants. Fun. Which is page to

2607
01:29:42,874 --> 01:29:44,943
37 in your budget Workbook. So

2608
01:29:44,943 --> 01:29:45,777
this fun, the majority of

2609
01:29:45,777 --> 01:29:47,612
funding prior to the current

2610
01:29:47,612 --> 01:29:49,215
fiscal year was from Cares.

2611
01:29:49,215 --> 01:29:52,840
Act. The American Rescue Plan

2612
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:53,118
Act and House Bill 3, the

2613
01:29:53,118 --> 01:29:55,621
majority of this funding now

2614
01:29:55,621 --> 01:29:57,288
comes from House Bill 3 for

2615
01:29:57,288 --> 01:29:58,256
law enforcement. As you can

2616
01:29:58,256 --> 01:30:01,256
see, our current non operating

2617
01:30:04,396 --> 01:30:05,463
costs for this budget. Our

2618
01:30:05,463 --> 01:30:06,497
2 million, 303,440 dollars for

2619
01:30:06,497 --> 01:30:07,166
a total budget of the same,

2620
01:30:07,166 --> 01:30:10,766
which is a flat budget over

2621
01:30:13,472 --> 01:30:14,139
the prior year.

2622
01:30:14,139 --> 01:30:16,674
>> Which was a cash balance

2623
01:30:16,674 --> 01:30:17,842
forward or to come from.

2624
01:30:17,842 --> 01:30:20,545
>> So the cash balance. Ford

2625
01:30:20,545 --> 01:30:22,414
is a projection for the ending

2626
01:30:22,414 --> 01:30:23,148
fund balance that's usually

2627
01:30:23,148 --> 01:30:23,815
provided in our financial

2628
01:30:23,815 --> 01:30:27,415
budget and are sorry in our

2629
01:30:27,485 --> 01:30:29,521
annual financial report. We

2630
01:30:29,521 --> 01:30:30,822
are projecting based on our

2631
01:30:30,822 --> 01:30:31,490
prior year as our current

2632
01:30:31,490 --> 01:30:34,392
audit is still in progress,

2633
01:30:34,392 --> 01:30:35,930
ok?

2634
01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:35,760
>> That's what I thought it

2635
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:36,461
was from the audit. So you

2636
01:30:36,461 --> 01:30:40,610
haven't read is up. Yes, sir.

2637
01:30:46,537 --> 01:30:48,537
Okay. Ok, Lisa?

2638
01:30:48,573 --> 01:30:49,408
>> Our next fund is with

2639
01:30:49,408 --> 01:30:53,800
MISTER Nelson. It is the solid

2640
01:30:55,513 --> 01:30:57,913
waste management. Fun one. 33.

2641
01:31:02,922 --> 01:31:03,789
Well, good morning again,

2642
01:31:03,789 --> 01:31:04,455
>> as

2643
01:31:04,455 --> 01:31:07,455
>> you're seeing here is a

2644
01:31:07,492 --> 01:31:08,794
solid waste, which is fun one.

2645
01:31:08,794 --> 01:31:11,194
33 personnel services has a

2646
01:31:15,700 --> 01:31:17,769
reduction of $2149, which is a

2647
01:31:17,769 --> 01:31:18,770
1.5 9% decrease operating

2648
01:31:18,770 --> 01:31:21,770
expenses has a reduction of

2649
01:31:21,974 --> 01:31:24,374
$1415, which is a point 9, 0%,

2650
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,547
decrease. Capital outlay, as

2651
01:31:28,547 --> 01:31:29,247
you see, would be 100%

2652
01:31:29,247 --> 01:31:32,247
decrease based off for years

2653
01:31:32,517 --> 01:31:33,218
we have no capital, no capital

2654
01:31:33,218 --> 01:31:36,218
purchases for this year. And

2655
01:31:37,355 --> 01:31:39,355
this fund.

2656
01:31:40,125 --> 01:31:41,600
>> Other than that, our total

2657
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,600
total expanding budget

2658
01:31:43,361 --> 01:31:44,329
increase due to non

2659
01:31:44,329 --> 01:31:46,329
operational.

2660
01:31:47,650 --> 01:31:49,465
>> Of $17,499, which is a

2661
01:31:53,305 --> 01:31:53,939
change of 1.0, 3, 0%. And then

2662
01:31:53,939 --> 01:31:55,273
progress. As you can see,

2663
01:31:55,273 --> 01:31:56,241
we've the capital items we

2664
01:31:56,241 --> 01:31:59,241
have uncovered this year that

2665
01:32:00,112 --> 01:32:00,813
are moving forward is the the

2666
01:32:00,813 --> 01:32:03,213
new the maintenance building

2667
01:32:03,949 --> 01:32:04,649
or storage building. We did

2668
01:32:04,649 --> 01:32:06,753
purchase truck out of this

2669
01:32:06,753 --> 01:32:09,753
account this year. That helps

2670
01:32:10,220 --> 01:32:12,725
us with that kind downfall.

2671
01:32:12,725 --> 01:32:14,759
Are that that backup from the

2672
01:32:14,759 --> 01:32:16,995
solid waste, of course, with

2673
01:32:16,995 --> 01:32:17,696
the the issues we have with

2674
01:32:17,696 --> 01:32:20,960
the dumpsters and everything

2675
01:32:20,432 --> 01:32:21,990
else to be able to get out and

2676
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:23,101
inspect those. And then the

2677
01:32:23,101 --> 01:32:27,301
also we have the what we call

2678
01:32:27,506 --> 01:32:28,540
the solid waste office and

2679
01:32:28,540 --> 01:32:29,241
storage building that

2680
01:32:29,241 --> 01:32:30,609
acclimate, a storage building

2681
01:32:30,609 --> 01:32:32,611
renovation is also and

2682
01:32:32,611 --> 01:32:34,611
progress.

2683
01:32:36,515 --> 01:32:38,915
>> who's the 0? One person?

2684
01:32:39,551 --> 01:32:41,820
It's my salary that you're so

2685
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:42,554
yes, sir. Yeah. So maybe had

2686
01:32:42,554 --> 01:32:43,823
some Byron around here was

2687
01:32:43,823 --> 01:32:45,390
very small. No, No, sir. A

2688
01:32:45,390 --> 01:32:46,425
portion of my salary comes out

2689
01:32:46,425 --> 01:32:48,825
of almost every department

2690
01:32:53,231 --> 01:32:56,231
underneath self. He's in this

2691
01:32:57,169 --> 01:32:58,690
working that

2692
01:32:58,690 --> 01:32:58,704
>> Well, going to be working

2693
01:32:58,704 --> 01:32:59,304
Just struck me as funny.

2694
01:32:59,304 --> 01:33:01,704
Funny. It's appoint one

2695
01:33:01,806 --> 01:33:02,508
person. So I'm like.

2696
01:33:02,508 --> 01:33:06,108
>> I felt told us because of

2697
01:33:07,212 --> 01:33:08,179
the claiming this of the

2698
01:33:08,179 --> 01:33:08,848
landfill we didn't have to

2699
01:33:08,848 --> 01:33:12,448
testing near me more. Is i

2700
01:33:13,185 --> 01:33:14,186
wrong or not? Russell? Have to

2701
01:33:14,186 --> 01:33:17,230
I didn't hear you chair. I

2702
01:33:17,230 --> 01:33:17,724
felt that we didn't have to to

2703
01:33:17,724 --> 01:33:18,390
Landfield anymore. I thought

2704
01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:21,990
we had that. Clean bill of

2705
01:33:23,762 --> 01:33:25,797
health. There. I just was some

2706
01:33:25,797 --> 01:33:26,466
of the old landfill tips that

2707
01:33:26,466 --> 01:33:27,990
we still have do testing at

2708
01:33:27,990 --> 01:33:28,367
that. You told us we got

2709
01:33:28,367 --> 01:33:30,767
10,000 here for that. Well,

2710
01:33:33,205 --> 01:33:35,140
if. The county just last if

2711
01:33:35,140 --> 01:33:38,140
the county ever decides to

2712
01:33:38,810 --> 01:33:39,545
>> go in there and

2713
01:33:39,545 --> 01:33:42,448
>> you know, do a site plan or

2714
01:33:42,448 --> 01:33:46,519
do things too. To stir the cap

2715
01:33:46,519 --> 01:33:47,452
landfill? We would be required

2716
01:33:47,452 --> 01:33:49,721
to do testing, ok? So he's got

2717
01:33:49,721 --> 01:33:50,422
Nikkei. Should we do that? As

2718
01:33:50,422 --> 01:33:53,525
long as we don't touch it, we

2719
01:33:53,525 --> 01:33:55,925
It. And maintain the

2720
01:33:56,729 --> 01:33:57,363
appearance of it. But won't

2721
01:33:57,363 --> 01:33:59,798
you stick a shovel in the

2722
01:33:59,798 --> 01:34:02,798
dirt? Then? The people come

2723
01:34:03,502 --> 01:34:04,103
back choir to the test.

2724
01:34:04,103 --> 01:34:04,803
>> So you just have it.

2725
01:34:04,803 --> 01:34:05,471
There's an insurance policy.

2726
01:34:05,471 --> 01:34:08,471
And that what we're doing?

2727
01:34:09,508 --> 01:34:10,208
Yes, Thank you, sir. I got a

2728
01:34:10,208 --> 01:34:12,608
question Russell Stiller. He

2729
01:34:13,345 --> 01:34:14,460
MAY know. A few years ago we

2730
01:34:14,460 --> 01:34:15,981
were still waiting on getting

2731
01:34:15,981 --> 01:34:18,550
paid from fema for some

2732
01:34:18,550 --> 01:34:20,950
hurricane cleanup. We ever.

2733
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:28,227
Did we ever get paid for that?

2734
01:34:28,227 --> 01:34:31,227
Want to say maybe DECEMBER

2735
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:32,164
last funded final close eye on

2736
01:34:32,164 --> 01:34:35,634
As far as know, we got all our

2737
01:34:35,634 --> 01:34:38,340
funding for Irma. Completed

2738
01:34:39,239 --> 01:34:44,390
the sign off on And just to to

2739
01:34:44,777 --> 01:34:48,977
close out on it. Monday. So we

2740
01:34:49,181 --> 01:34:52,181
should have almost 9 a 5 to 90

2741
01:34:53,285 --> 01:34:53,952
6% of all our money for

2742
01:34:53,952 --> 01:34:54,654
>> This was something it's

2743
01:34:54,654 --> 01:34:56,856
like, oh, maybe it was 10 or

2744
01:34:56,856 --> 01:34:57,823
15 years ago or something. And

2745
01:34:57,823 --> 01:35:00,793
we still hadn't been renew

2746
01:35:00,793 --> 01:35:01,460
rated for expenses from fema.

2747
01:35:01,460 --> 01:35:04,460
We talked about it several

2748
01:35:04,964 --> 01:35:07,800
times. So evidently one of

2749
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:08,667
those hurricanes we've there

2750
01:35:08,667 --> 01:35:11,370
so can you not there's

2751
01:35:11,370 --> 01:35:11,904
Francis. That's all I know.

2752
01:35:11,904 --> 01:35:14,304
>> According to all the

2753
01:35:15,808 --> 01:35:17,276
information and I see of fame,

2754
01:35:17,276 --> 01:35:17,910
we have been been reimbursed

2755
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:20,310
for everything sense. You

2756
01:35:21,581 --> 01:35:23,981
know, 2004. Those are they're

2757
01:35:25,151 --> 01:35:27,551
still working on Milton

2758
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:29,756
>> but that that is that's

2759
01:35:29,756 --> 01:35:32,292
almost complete as well as

2760
01:35:32,292 --> 01:35:32,926
just waiting on them, too.

2761
01:35:32,926 --> 01:35:35,326
Reimburse or other 50% of

2762
01:35:35,528 --> 01:35:37,730
cost. So it sounds like

2763
01:35:37,730 --> 01:35:40,730
answers. Pretty close to us

2764
01:35:41,433 --> 01:35:42,668
that.

2765
01:35:42,668 --> 01:35:43,369
>> Just good. For a few years

2766
01:35:43,369 --> 01:35:44,270
ago, we were like what pretty

2767
01:35:44,270 --> 01:35:47,270
big chunk of our member

2768
01:35:49,909 --> 01:35:51,444
correctly that from fema.

2769
01:35:51,444 --> 01:35:55,440
>> The only thing I can think

2770
01:35:55,448 --> 01:35:56,182
of is with Hurricane Irma.

2771
01:35:56,182 --> 01:35:57,883
When the structure up on 300th

2772
01:35:57,883 --> 01:36:00,883
and Fort Drum Bucs forward.

2773
01:36:01,154 --> 01:36:04,754
That was up there. It billowed

2774
01:36:06,392 --> 01:36:07,600
out and we put in to have it,

2775
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,460
you know, get reimbursement

2776
01:36:10,897 --> 01:36:11,631
only on the repairs. And it

2777
01:36:11,631 --> 01:36:14,631
was like little over 1 million

2778
01:36:18,537 --> 01:36:20,173
dollars. Based One theme of

2779
01:36:20,173 --> 01:36:22,573
for the national informations.

2780
01:36:22,908 --> 01:36:25,908
For that repair. They wanted

2781
01:36:26,345 --> 01:36:27,113
to see 15 years of bridge

2782
01:36:27,113 --> 01:36:30,113
reports and how the county

2783
01:36:32,510 --> 01:36:33,180
maintained. Well, based on the

2784
01:36:33,180 --> 01:36:34,520
5 year, the every 5 years a

2785
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,520
bridge report was done. And

2786
01:36:38,825 --> 01:36:39,425
there was some. Issues that

2787
01:36:39,425 --> 01:36:41,294
appeared in the bridge

2788
01:36:41,294 --> 01:36:43,694
reports. That fema used

2789
01:36:46,433 --> 01:36:47,670
against us. Justify them not

2790
01:36:47,670 --> 01:36:49,369
having to pay us for the

2791
01:36:49,369 --> 01:36:51,769
repairs. Of the hurricane.

2792
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,600
Damage due I made several

2793
01:36:56,943 --> 01:36:59,943
appeals. And they continue to

2794
01:36:59,979 --> 01:37:01,581
deny it and staff Mathis, we

2795
01:37:01,581 --> 01:37:05,181
worked on it. He helped me

2796
01:37:05,584 --> 01:37:08,584
with. Language to try to

2797
01:37:11,324 --> 01:37:12,225
justify the reimbursement and

2798
01:37:12,225 --> 01:37:15,825
help us. I total project we

2799
01:37:16,896 --> 01:37:19,296
got to. Well, $60,000 and

2800
01:37:19,866 --> 01:37:22,266
emergency repairs. All right.

2801
01:37:25,805 --> 01:37:28,708
Thank you, sir. Yes, should

2802
01:37:28,708 --> 01:37:29,409
have went there.

2803
01:37:29,409 --> 01:37:32,409
>> It meant that moment that

2804
01:37:32,979 --> 01:37:37,179
day that she too, to sell. She

2805
01:37:39,850 --> 01:37:42,685
told us water flows Yeah. And

2806
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,320
a last chance. Yeah, let's

2807
01:37:57,136 --> 01:38:00,736
We've got 2 more. And will get

2808
01:38:01,908 --> 01:38:02,542
over to the other part?

2809
01:38:02,542 --> 01:38:03,209
>> Just and I are doing a

2810
01:38:03,209 --> 01:38:05,845
little back and forth this

2811
01:38:05,845 --> 01:38:06,445
morning for you. We can tell

2812
01:38:06,445 --> 01:38:07,147
we're at the Crime for

2813
01:38:07,147 --> 01:38:10,147
Prevention Fund, which is to

2814
01:38:11,151 --> 01:38:13,353
47 in your work book pursuant

2815
01:38:13,353 --> 01:38:15,353
to Section 7, 7, 5, 0, 8, 3

2816
01:38:16,220 --> 01:38:18,124
Florida statute port cost for

2817
01:38:18,124 --> 01:38:19,359
this fun are assessed and

2818
01:38:19,359 --> 01:38:22,328
collected in each instance of

2819
01:38:22,328 --> 01:38:24,497
a defendant. But please, no lo

2820
01:38:24,497 --> 01:38:25,198
contender or is convicted of

2821
01:38:25,198 --> 01:38:25,832
or delinquent of a felony or

2822
01:38:25,832 --> 01:38:28,232
misdemeanor for a traffic

2823
01:38:29,302 --> 01:38:30,503
offense. The county in

2824
01:38:30,503 --> 01:38:31,204
consultation with the sheriff

2825
01:38:31,204 --> 01:38:33,500
expense these funds for crime

2826
01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:34,741
prevention programs in the

2827
01:38:34,741 --> 01:38:35,341
county, including Safe

2828
01:38:35,341 --> 01:38:36,876
neighborhood programs.

2829
01:38:36,876 --> 01:38:39,276
Pursuant to Florida Statute.

2830
01:38:41,882 --> 01:38:43,882
1, 6, 3.5, 0, 1, So this fund

2831
01:38:45,418 --> 01:38:46,420
has a non operating cost of

2832
01:38:46,420 --> 01:38:48,820
$247,632. And the total budget

2833
01:38:50,891 --> 01:38:51,625
is the same for a 3.0. 4, 1%,

2834
01:38:51,625 --> 01:38:54,625
increase over the prior fiscal

2835
01:38:54,995 --> 01:38:56,995
year.

2836
01:38:58,532 --> 01:39:00,532
>> Lisa, if defenses, $250,000

2837
01:39:01,468 --> 01:39:03,868
is crime prevention. What

2838
01:39:04,404 --> 01:39:05,380
would it cost levy a crime?

2839
01:39:05,380 --> 01:39:06,506
>> I'm sure a significant

2840
01:39:06,506 --> 01:39:09,506
deal. Blunt. We might want

2841
01:39:10,477 --> 01:39:11,511
look at that. But okay with

2842
01:39:11,511 --> 01:39:14,511
this thank you, ma'am. You're

2843
01:39:14,648 --> 01:39:17,648
welcome. Next, we have Justin

2844
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,880
with Fleet Services. Yeah. See

2845
01:39:30,164 --> 01:39:30,865
it now. I haven't from you our

2846
01:39:30,865 --> 01:39:33,700
fleet services which would be

2847
01:39:33,700 --> 01:39:35,700
one, 35 dash, 8, 4,

2848
01:39:35,769 --> 01:39:37,337
>> So in front of you, as you

2849
01:39:37,337 --> 01:39:38,305
say, the personnel that is up,

2850
01:39:38,305 --> 01:39:41,305
there is not correct. It

2851
01:39:42,409 --> 01:39:43,477
somehow we pulled a person out

2852
01:39:43,477 --> 01:39:46,477
of that. But the personnel

2853
01:39:46,981 --> 01:39:49,381
isn't an increase of 5.0, 6,

2854
01:39:49,950 --> 01:39:52,950
3%, based off of the true

2855
01:39:54,587 --> 01:39:55,655
numbers operating expenses is

2856
01:39:55,655 --> 01:39:57,655
89,008, 30, which is a

2857
01:39:59,593 --> 01:40:01,593
reduction of 5,700 and $39,

2858
01:40:02,596 --> 01:40:04,564
which is a reduction of 6.1

2859
01:40:04,564 --> 01:40:06,964
6.0 1% capital outlay. We do

2860
01:40:07,268 --> 01:40:08,369
have some increases this year.

2861
01:40:08,369 --> 01:40:09,436
As you all know, the

2862
01:40:09,436 --> 01:40:11,836
electrical upgrades has been

2863
01:40:12,239 --> 01:40:13,140
rolling forward. Multiple,

2864
01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:14,208
multiple years.

2865
01:40:14,208 --> 01:40:14,975
>> We really are trying to

2866
01:40:14,975 --> 01:40:17,975
focus on getting that project

2867
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:18,845
completed this year with the

2868
01:40:18,845 --> 01:40:19,513
full design. We're hoping we

2869
01:40:19,513 --> 01:40:21,140
can get it done within the

2870
01:40:21,140 --> 01:40:23,414
dollar amounts. We have

2871
01:40:25,319 --> 01:40:26,220
allocated to that. So you do

2872
01:40:26,220 --> 01:40:28,188
see an increase there based

2873
01:40:28,188 --> 01:40:28,888
off of that 32,000 that you

2874
01:40:28,888 --> 01:40:31,558
show in the previous year was

2875
01:40:31,558 --> 01:40:34,395
for that project and just a

2876
01:40:34,395 --> 01:40:35,228
roll forward to this year. So

2877
01:40:35,228 --> 01:40:35,930
it's just reallocating that so

2878
01:40:35,930 --> 01:40:39,530
that did not get expense last

2879
01:40:41,902 --> 01:40:43,470
year. Under Non-operating.

2880
01:40:43,470 --> 01:40:46,470
We've got to balance showing

2881
01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:49,340
their of 665,007 88, which is

2882
01:40:52,279 --> 01:40:54,148
an increase of $4. Pretty 0%

2883
01:40:54,148 --> 01:40:57,148
increase. So in total net

2884
01:40:58,252 --> 01:40:58,952
decrease of 1.0, 5, 5%.

2885
01:40:58,952 --> 01:41:02,552
>> You had a pretty good bump

2886
01:41:05,493 --> 01:41:08,228
on your insurance this year.

2887
01:41:08,228 --> 01:41:08,962
Any reason want shop

2888
01:41:08,962 --> 01:41:10,197
liability? I can guarantee you

2889
01:41:10,197 --> 01:41:12,197
that's probably wasn't.

2890
01:41:14,350 --> 01:41:16,737
There's sure to sign it. Shop

2891
01:41:16,737 --> 01:41:17,471
liability seems to racing at a

2892
01:41:17,471 --> 01:41:20,740
higher rate than most anything

2893
01:41:20,740 --> 01:41:22,740
else. 1.76%. 6,000 booked

2894
01:41:25,678 --> 01:41:27,810
almost. And I'm sure MISS Lisa

2895
01:41:27,810 --> 01:41:27,781
can probably have a little

2896
01:41:27,781 --> 01:41:30,781
better explanation. But I can

2897
01:41:30,885 --> 01:41:31,619
tell you, based off of

2898
01:41:31,619 --> 01:41:34,190
experience, shop liability has

2899
01:41:34,188 --> 01:41:35,522
increased significantly more.

2900
01:41:35,522 --> 01:41:37,791
Because if you're looking back

2901
01:41:37,791 --> 01:41:38,225
to 2023, is only $9700. You're

2902
01:41:38,225 --> 01:41:40,225
up to 20,000.

2903
01:41:42,529 --> 01:41:43,231
>> Now.

2904
01:41:43,231 --> 01:41:45,800
>> Just in this. Get them to

2905
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,200
check on that. Recycling

2906
01:41:51,505 --> 01:41:52,239
Knoll. I thought Jimmy told me

2907
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,408
that he doesn't have to pay

2908
01:41:54,408 --> 01:41:56,910
for them to come. Pick up is I

2909
01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:58,812
can I can find out. But we do

2910
01:41:58,812 --> 01:42:00,812
pay throughout.

2911
01:42:01,815 --> 01:42:02,983
>> The $4,000. I would just

2912
01:42:02,983 --> 01:42:03,651
make sure that you're you

2913
01:42:03,651 --> 01:42:04,852
know, that there's the

2914
01:42:04,852 --> 01:42:06,887
complete awareness that some

2915
01:42:06,887 --> 01:42:10,290
people do have a free pickup

2916
01:42:10,290 --> 01:42:10,957
service.

2917
01:42:10,957 --> 01:42:13,293
>> But their services, not

2918
01:42:13,293 --> 01:42:14,461
adp. Epa approved pickup

2919
01:42:14,461 --> 01:42:15,663
service. And we require that

2920
01:42:15,663 --> 01:42:16,864
for our tracking so that we

2921
01:42:16,864 --> 01:42:17,565
don't have to do is

2922
01:42:17,565 --> 01:42:18,265
environmental to study later

2923
01:42:18,265 --> 01:42:21,265
on because that will trigger

2924
01:42:22,837 --> 01:42:23,504
one. I will say that could be

2925
01:42:23,504 --> 01:42:24,138
some of what we're seeing.

2926
01:42:24,138 --> 01:42:27,138
Very well. Could be good

2927
01:42:30,110 --> 01:42:32,110
answer. Any questions,

2928
01:42:34,820 --> 01:42:34,749
comments. But okay, yes. Thank

2929
01:42:34,749 --> 01:42:35,983
you, Justin. Thank you. You

2930
01:42:35,983 --> 01:42:36,717
keep the wheels. Roland, we

2931
01:42:36,717 --> 01:42:39,717
appreciate what do there. They

2932
01:42:44,655 --> 01:42:45,256
it's good to

2933
01:42:45,256 --> 01:42:45,889
know. There's one think

2934
01:42:45,889 --> 01:42:46,557
there's probably a couple

2935
01:42:46,557 --> 01:42:48,957
meeting. Max orders usually

2936
01:42:52,396 --> 01:42:53,300
law. As Jessica. We have to

2937
01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:54,699
sit up straighter now pay

2938
01:42:54,699 --> 01:42:56,699
attention

2939
01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:59,100
>> good morning. Good morning.

2940
01:42:59,470 --> 01:43:00,405
I'm going to see this.

2941
01:43:00,405 --> 01:43:02,873
>> All the way through since I

2942
01:43:02,873 --> 01:43:04,873
impact fees started.

2943
01:43:06,410 --> 01:43:07,780
>> With me and next here

2944
01:43:07,780 --> 01:43:07,778
during the proposed budget

2945
01:43:07,778 --> 01:43:10,778
will have the department or

2946
01:43:11,749 --> 01:43:12,749
MISS Lisa present on it. And

2947
01:43:12,749 --> 01:43:15,586
so the next 8 funds are going

2948
01:43:15,586 --> 01:43:18,122
to review the impact fee

2949
01:43:18,122 --> 01:43:21,122
categories due to the Florida

2950
01:43:22,259 --> 01:43:23,294
chart of accounts, there was a

2951
01:43:23,294 --> 01:43:25,694
reporting update in fiscal

2952
01:43:27,799 --> 01:43:28,533
year 2019, 2020, which added

2953
01:43:28,533 --> 01:43:30,933
additional requirements to the

2954
01:43:31,936 --> 01:43:34,305
dl code and fund reporting

2955
01:43:34,305 --> 01:43:36,705
guidelines. So you'll see

2956
01:43:39,676 --> 01:43:41,579
throughout that. There's quite

2957
01:43:41,579 --> 01:43:42,780
a few gl accounts with impact

2958
01:43:42,780 --> 01:43:45,180
fees. There's over 60 Gla

2959
01:43:45,583 --> 01:43:45,950
counts.

2960
01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:46,684
>> Each.

2961
01:43:46,684 --> 01:43:49,354
>> Fun is going to be specific

2962
01:43:49,354 --> 01:43:50,540
to that category. So, for

2963
01:43:50,540 --> 01:43:52,454
instance, for corrections, we

2964
01:44:00,932 --> 01:44:03,768
have. We see. So I'll kind of

2965
01:44:03,768 --> 01:44:04,468
give you an idea on what it

2966
01:44:04,468 --> 01:44:06,868
entails. The first 6 numbers

2967
01:44:08,807 --> 01:44:09,507
are the impact fee itself. So

2968
01:44:09,507 --> 01:44:11,907
that identifies the category

2969
01:44:14,545 --> 01:44:16,247
and the fund within you have

2970
01:44:16,247 --> 01:44:16,914
the funding. You have the

2971
01:44:16,914 --> 01:44:19,914
impact. Fees are their own

2972
01:44:20,351 --> 01:44:21,753
department, which is 54. Then

2973
01:44:21,753 --> 01:44:22,753
you have the uniform chart of

2974
01:44:22,753 --> 01:44:25,389
accounts gl series in those

2975
01:44:25,389 --> 01:44:26,357
first 6 digits. Identify the

2976
01:44:26,357 --> 01:44:29,357
impact fees. So that's whether

2977
01:44:30,127 --> 01:44:31,280
its residential commercial and

2978
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:32,597
then the type if it falls

2979
01:44:32,597 --> 01:44:33,297
within public safety, physical

2980
01:44:33,297 --> 01:44:35,297
environment, transportation,

2981
01:44:36,601 --> 01:44:37,635
so on and so forth, the

2982
01:44:37,635 --> 01:44:40,350
remaining 4 digits. So the

2983
01:44:41,639 --> 01:44:42,607
next 2 digits identify what's

2984
01:44:42,607 --> 01:44:43,741
called the dwelling code. So

2985
01:44:43,741 --> 01:44:46,444
it's the specific purpose. So

2986
01:44:46,444 --> 01:44:47,111
is it office building, a

2987
01:44:47,111 --> 01:44:48,946
residential building

2988
01:44:48,946 --> 01:44:51,149
educational building? This is

2989
01:44:51,149 --> 01:44:52,417
all again, part of the uniform

2990
01:44:52,417 --> 01:44:54,218
chart of accounts. And then

2991
01:44:54,218 --> 01:44:56,287
the last 2 digits identify the

2992
01:44:56,287 --> 01:44:59,287
How it's being multiplied. Is

2993
01:45:00,591 --> 01:45:02,393
it based on? Is it based on

2994
01:45:02,393 --> 01:45:03,728
square footage? Is it based on

2995
01:45:03,728 --> 01:45:05,597
room? So that's that gives you

2996
01:45:05,597 --> 01:45:09,634
a overview on how this do you

2997
01:45:09,634 --> 01:45:12,904
have so. Next year we will

2998
01:45:12,904 --> 01:45:15,273
have more of a detail on what

2999
01:45:15,273 --> 01:45:16,540
has in terms of the impact

3000
01:45:16,540 --> 01:45:17,675
fees themselves. But for this

3001
01:45:17,675 --> 01:45:19,778
budget year, we're only

3002
01:45:19,778 --> 01:45:21,778
budgeting each individual. 9

3003
01:45:23,681 --> 01:45:24,782
item by one impact fee. So,

3004
01:45:24,782 --> 01:45:26,384
for instance, for corrections,

3005
01:45:26,384 --> 01:45:28,252
you'll see that yells listed

3006
01:45:28,252 --> 01:45:31,252
there. That's one impact fee

3007
01:45:31,723 --> 01:45:33,925
amount for each of those gl

3008
01:45:33,925 --> 01:45:35,559
We're budgeting for fiscal

3009
01:45:35,559 --> 01:45:36,261
year. 26, 27, 16,802. And

3010
01:45:36,261 --> 01:45:39,564
since this is a new account,

3011
01:45:39,564 --> 01:45:41,800
there's no percentage increase

3012
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:42,567
or decrease. We are working to

3013
01:45:42,567 --> 01:45:43,936
hopefully have an update on

3014
01:45:43,936 --> 01:45:44,636
Friday on where we're at

3015
01:45:44,636 --> 01:45:47,360
currently with the collection

3016
01:45:47,105 --> 01:45:49,174
of impact fees regarding the

3017
01:45:49,174 --> 01:45:50,708
county and the city because we

3018
01:45:50,708 --> 01:45:53,108
have been collect collecting

3019
01:45:53,344 --> 01:45:56,944
impact fee since MAY 14th. So

3020
01:45:57,749 --> 01:45:59,884
any questions on? Corrections?

3021
01:45:59,884 --> 01:46:01,620
The bill stands for General

3022
01:46:01,620 --> 01:46:04,222
Ledger. Yes, okay. Thank I'm

3023
01:46:04,222 --> 01:46:04,522
going to be the same. Aren't

3024
01:46:04,522 --> 01:46:06,391
they?

3025
01:46:06,391 --> 01:46:08,125
>> Yes, sir. So the next 8

3026
01:46:08,125 --> 01:46:09,193
again, just each individual

3027
01:46:09,193 --> 01:46:11,129
line item is just one impact

3028
01:46:11,129 --> 01:46:13,529
fee within that specific

3029
01:46:15,660 --> 01:46:17,660
category.

3030
01:46:18,103 --> 01:46:19,171
>> How we come in with the are

3031
01:46:19,171 --> 01:46:20,838
they collecting? Yeah. So

3032
01:46:20,838 --> 01:46:21,572
we've worked together

3033
01:46:21,572 --> 01:46:23,972
collaboratively to implement a

3034
01:46:24,642 --> 01:46:26,645
process. We've created a

3035
01:46:26,645 --> 01:46:27,345
>> form and calculator for

3036
01:46:27,345 --> 01:46:30,345
them too, for their reporting

3037
01:46:30,782 --> 01:46:32,550
structure as well. And they've

3038
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:33,785
been actively communicating

3039
01:46:33,785 --> 01:46:34,486
with community development on

3040
01:46:34,486 --> 01:46:37,486
updates and impact fees that

3041
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:38,756
they're collecting.

3042
01:46:38,756 --> 01:46:40,559
>> Has that word that people

3043
01:46:40,559 --> 01:46:41,259
write the check to the city

3044
01:46:41,259 --> 01:46:41,960
and then the city accumulates

3045
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,560
in sense. That does yes, sir.

3046
01:46:46,297 --> 01:46:48,733
So we'll have some but would

3047
01:46:48,733 --> 01:46:49,734
have somebody what you to with

3048
01:46:49,734 --> 01:46:50,802
So right now the city collects

3049
01:46:50,802 --> 01:46:53,500
the full impact fee and the

3050
01:46:53,500 --> 01:46:53,705
full 3% administration fee.

3051
01:46:53,705 --> 01:46:56,705
>> And then they retain the

3052
01:46:57,475 --> 01:47:00,475
1.5%. Due to them. And the

3053
01:47:01,546 --> 01:47:02,247
rest comes to the county that

3054
01:47:02,247 --> 01:47:03,581
the 3% does not. In addition

3055
01:47:03,581 --> 01:47:05,650
to the impact fees is is

3056
01:47:05,650 --> 01:47:08,500
portion of its additional

3057
01:47:08,486 --> 01:47:10,886
fortune, says additional. It's

3058
01:47:13,459 --> 01:47:14,126
103%. Yes.

3059
01:47:14,126 --> 01:47:14,860
>> And the only change that

3060
01:47:14,860 --> 01:47:17,260
you'll see within these

3061
01:47:17,595 --> 01:47:18,697
accounts, as we do have to add

3062
01:47:18,697 --> 01:47:20,432
the gl for the administrative

3063
01:47:20,432 --> 01:47:23,301
fees. So will be budgeting

3064
01:47:23,301 --> 01:47:23,935
that through these next couple

3065
01:47:23,935 --> 01:47:24,702
funds as we move forward

3066
01:47:24,702 --> 01:47:27,102
through the budgeting process

3067
01:47:27,506 --> 01:47:30,809
of the final budget work. But

3068
01:47:30,809 --> 01:47:31,409
>> any questions, comments. So

3069
01:47:31,409 --> 01:47:35,900
that a curse on the way

3070
01:47:41,286 --> 01:47:43,686
through. All of to 47.

3071
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:44,823
>> So debt service 203 is

3072
01:47:44,823 --> 01:47:46,591
where we will be next. Unless

3073
01:47:46,591 --> 01:47:47,158
you have any questions on the

3074
01:47:47,158 --> 01:47:49,558
other ones. Yours was

3075
01:47:52,363 --> 01:47:53,310
shortest.

3076
01:47:53,310 --> 01:47:53,732
>> Around issues go carries

3077
01:47:53,732 --> 01:47:55,567
all the way through get there

3078
01:47:55,567 --> 01:47:56,301
and cheat.

3079
01:47:56,301 --> 01:47:58,237
>> I think the just endure end

3080
01:47:58,237 --> 01:48:01,837
of longest. I feel like as

3081
01:48:02,740 --> 01:48:02,775
true today. Yes.

3082
01:48:02,775 --> 01:48:04,477
>> They make make you MR. Not

3083
01:48:04,477 --> 01:48:06,877
be the overall longest.

3084
01:48:09,314 --> 01:48:10,140
>> Okay. MISS Lisa.

3085
01:48:10,140 --> 01:48:12,417
>> Our next fund that we will

3086
01:48:12,417 --> 01:48:13,118
be discussing is our debt

3087
01:48:13,118 --> 01:48:13,752
service fund which should be

3088
01:48:13,752 --> 01:48:16,752
page to 91 in your budget

3089
01:48:24,763 --> 01:48:25,464
workbook. So the current year

3090
01:48:25,464 --> 01:48:28,464
proposed budget for our debt

3091
01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:29,167
services. I wait for you all

3092
01:48:29,167 --> 01:48:32,767
to get there. Now you find

3093
01:48:32,971 --> 01:48:35,371
that said their fight.

3094
01:48:38,210 --> 01:48:40,210
>> Is 1 million, $511,552 are

3095
01:48:40,578 --> 01:48:40,945
non operating costs are

3096
01:48:40,945 --> 01:48:42,945
$234,199.

3097
01:48:44,716 --> 01:48:47,716
>> For a total budget of

3098
01:48:47,752 --> 01:48:49,752
1 million, $745,751. It's

3099
01:48:51,690 --> 01:48:54,250
important to note here the

3100
01:48:54,250 --> 01:48:55,727
decrease of 33% over the prior

3101
01:48:55,727 --> 01:48:58,397
fiscal year is due to the fact

3102
01:48:58,397 --> 01:48:59,640
that we pay this fund down

3103
01:48:59,640 --> 01:49:00,666
with a million dollars from

3104
01:49:00,666 --> 01:49:03,368
the landfill truss. And this

3105
01:49:03,368 --> 01:49:04,236
was a recommendation from our

3106
01:49:04,236 --> 01:49:06,236
outgoing county administrator

3107
01:49:06,438 --> 01:49:08,507
to save the county quite a bit

3108
01:49:08,507 --> 01:49:11,644
of money and interest over the

3109
01:49:11,644 --> 01:49:12,312
term of this pollen payment.

3110
01:49:12,312 --> 01:49:14,712
>> Going away. Present from

3111
01:49:16,615 --> 01:49:17,349
Debby is at And so that it be

3112
01:49:17,349 --> 01:49:20,190
MAY be a good one of our bonds

3113
01:49:20,190 --> 01:49:21,860
is that we're down to one now.

3114
01:49:21,860 --> 01:49:22,153
>> So we still have the 2

3115
01:49:22,153 --> 01:49:24,322
bonds, but it eliminated quite

3116
01:49:24,322 --> 01:49:27,325
a bit of interest that we will

3117
01:49:27,325 --> 01:49:27,960
be paying on the beeb they are

3118
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,330
Yes, We paid it down. We

3119
01:49:31,330 --> 01:49:32,300
didn't pay it off. Do it.

3120
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:35,630
>> Do we still have about And

3121
01:49:35,967 --> 01:49:37,936
you pay it if we.

3122
01:49:37,936 --> 01:49:40,105
>> We only could utilize the

3123
01:49:40,105 --> 01:49:41,600
bond pre payment schedule if

3124
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:41,741
we received an act that was in

3125
01:49:41,741 --> 01:49:44,141
alignment with what our

3126
01:49:45,578 --> 01:49:46,878
defeats schedule is and those

3127
01:49:46,878 --> 01:49:48,814
would have defeat since.

3128
01:49:48,814 --> 01:49:52,414
That's what it's called to the

3129
01:49:52,651 --> 01:49:55,554
fees on the deceased. Know So

3130
01:49:55,554 --> 01:49:57,456
season's would require us to

3131
01:49:57,456 --> 01:49:58,657
receive grant funding or a

3132
01:49:58,657 --> 01:50:00,657
legislative appropriation for

3133
01:50:00,726 --> 01:50:02,261
that specific projects. That's

3134
01:50:02,261 --> 01:50:03,194
the project is completed. I do

3135
01:50:03,194 --> 01:50:06,194
anticipate we'll be able to

3136
01:50:06,365 --> 01:50:07,533
pay down the bonds any longer.

3137
01:50:07,533 --> 01:50:08,233
>> After what we've said about

3138
01:50:08,233 --> 01:50:11,233
the governor that's going to

3139
01:50:15,140 --> 01:50:18,140
happen was like, oh, Florida.

3140
01:50:20,947 --> 01:50:21,614
We could just.

3141
01:50:21,614 --> 01:50:24,140
>> Any questions about that

3142
01:50:26,751 --> 01:50:27,720
service. Our next fund is

3143
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:28,454
capital improvement projects.

3144
01:50:28,454 --> 01:50:32,654
And I'll turn this over to MR.

3145
01:50:39,698 --> 01:50:41,698
Nelson.

3146
01:50:43,169 --> 01:50:44,236
>> Back in front of you again.

3147
01:50:44,236 --> 01:50:46,636
In our capital improvements,

3148
01:50:47,974 --> 01:50:49,975
as you can see, there's under

3149
01:50:49,975 --> 01:50:52,578
under capital outlay. You see

3150
01:50:52,578 --> 01:50:53,613
a $60,000 that it that is are

3151
01:50:53,613 --> 01:50:56,130
surveying services that are

3152
01:50:58,170 --> 01:50:58,617
provided through Cip that we

3153
01:50:58,617 --> 01:50:59,251
budget for every year.

3154
01:50:59,251 --> 01:51:01,651
Normally we expense every

3155
01:51:02,721 --> 01:51:05,124
dollar that. So the majority

3156
01:51:05,124 --> 01:51:08,194
of those are for survey items

3157
01:51:08,194 --> 01:51:10,128
that are needed for pre grant

3158
01:51:10,128 --> 01:51:10,829
applications pretty

3159
01:51:10,829 --> 01:51:11,797
improvement projects. Before

3160
01:51:11,797 --> 01:51:14,366
we get into the design phase

3161
01:51:14,366 --> 01:51:17,336
or we get into something where

3162
01:51:17,336 --> 01:51:18,537
we need to execute a full

3163
01:51:18,537 --> 01:51:19,705
design. There is a lot of

3164
01:51:19,705 --> 01:51:22,105
survey work that normally

3165
01:51:23,509 --> 01:51:24,210
comes ahead of those items. So

3166
01:51:24,210 --> 01:51:24,910
that's not a majority of what

3167
01:51:24,910 --> 01:51:28,510
that funding and you is used

3168
01:51:29,349 --> 01:51:32,349
for. So moving forward from

3169
01:51:32,819 --> 01:51:33,853
there, if you see under

3170
01:51:33,853 --> 01:51:35,853
capital projects projected

3171
01:51:38,791 --> 01:51:39,492
this year, we've got $1018.68,

3172
01:51:39,492 --> 01:51:43,920
which is a reduction from the

3173
01:51:46,398 --> 01:51:47,990
previous year of 8. 81.9 5%.

3174
01:51:47,990 --> 01:51:49,499
So non-operating. There's an

3175
01:51:51,103 --> 01:51:54,103
increase of 4,280 and that is

3176
01:51:54,507 --> 01:51:55,174
an increase of 67 point to 3%.

3177
01:51:55,174 --> 01:51:58,174
So the total budget coming

3178
01:52:01,281 --> 01:52:02,481
into this year's 11 million,

3179
01:52:02,481 --> 01:52:03,549
11 million, 275,881 dollars,

3180
01:52:03,549 --> 01:52:07,149
which is a net decrease of

3181
01:52:12,324 --> 01:52:13,258
2.8, 2%.

3182
01:52:13,258 --> 01:52:13,960
>> One of the things just and

3183
01:52:13,960 --> 01:52:16,596
you MAY want to emphasize is

3184
01:52:16,596 --> 01:52:18,864
that when people look at the

3185
01:52:18,864 --> 01:52:20,299
some of this money that you're

3186
01:52:20,299 --> 01:52:20,967
spending on capital

3187
01:52:20,967 --> 01:52:23,303
improvements. Most some of

3188
01:52:23,303 --> 01:52:25,337
that are all of this under.

3189
01:52:25,337 --> 01:52:26,239
Been received via grants,

3190
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:27,139
correct.

3191
01:52:27,139 --> 01:52:29,539
>> a significant amount of

3192
01:52:30,443 --> 01:52:32,344
money is in their areas as

3193
01:52:32,344 --> 01:52:32,945
grants. And also when, you

3194
01:52:32,945 --> 01:52:35,281
know, I think from the

3195
01:52:35,281 --> 01:52:37,281
public's perspective. It

3196
01:52:39,252 --> 01:52:39,986
appears when you look a total

3197
01:52:39,986 --> 01:52:42,386
budget dollar amount of

3198
01:52:42,488 --> 01:52:43,890
11 million dollars, the public

3199
01:52:43,890 --> 01:52:43,790
looks at that is we are

3200
01:52:43,790 --> 01:52:45,790
expensing 11 million dollars.

3201
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,700
That is not. We have 1 million

3202
01:52:52,700 --> 01:52:53,366
$78,000 in total expenditures

3203
01:52:53,366 --> 01:52:55,802
that are allocated a budget

3204
01:52:55,802 --> 01:52:57,637
for this year. It's the cash

3205
01:52:57,637 --> 01:52:59,637
balance forward and

3206
01:52:59,772 --> 01:53:00,806
non-operating. The kind of

3207
01:53:00,806 --> 01:53:02,375
gives the appearance that

3208
01:53:02,375 --> 01:53:03,800
there's large amount of money

3209
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:05,800
being expensive capital.

3210
01:53:06,345 --> 01:53:06,980
That's not really being

3211
01:53:06,980 --> 01:53:08,980
expenses. Covered. Other

3212
01:53:10,283 --> 01:53:10,950
words, yes, right. So just,

3213
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:12,418
you know, sometimes they're

3214
01:53:12,418 --> 01:53:13,286
looking at things. They like

3215
01:53:13,286 --> 01:53:15,354
what you spent, you know,

3216
01:53:15,354 --> 01:53:16,880
6 million last year, whatever

3217
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:17,223
it says, it appears 12 million

3218
01:53:17,223 --> 01:53:19,580
last year. They look at that.

3219
01:53:19,580 --> 01:53:19,759
So, you know, I think

3220
01:53:19,759 --> 01:53:21,628
sometimes it's just a little

3221
01:53:21,628 --> 01:53:22,895
bit of clarification of what

3222
01:53:22,895 --> 01:53:25,895
the actual dollar amount, this

3223
01:53:30,937 --> 01:53:32,806
budget number this year. Some

3224
01:53:32,806 --> 01:53:34,106
of those items, like I said is

3225
01:53:34,106 --> 01:53:37,106
we've we've got that are

3226
01:53:37,810 --> 01:53:38,845
moving into the next year.

3227
01:53:38,845 --> 01:53:40,780
Would be, you know, the clip

3228
01:53:40,780 --> 01:53:42,782
that spark will have that

3229
01:53:42,782 --> 01:53:44,170
money. Encumbered this year is

3230
01:53:44,170 --> 01:53:45,180
our hope. We're working on

3231
01:53:45,180 --> 01:53:48,618
trying to get that finished up

3232
01:53:48,822 --> 01:53:49,690
contract back and forth. But

3233
01:53:49,690 --> 01:53:51,570
moving into next year, you'll

3234
01:53:51,570 --> 01:53:51,791
see that the Douglas Brown

3235
01:53:51,791 --> 01:53:53,727
restroom renovations as one of

3236
01:53:53,727 --> 01:53:55,629
the items we have budgeted for

3237
01:53:55,629 --> 01:53:56,329
next year. And then we'll be

3238
01:53:56,329 --> 01:53:59,198
working for day out towards

3239
01:53:59,198 --> 01:54:00,933
the fire station. 4

3240
01:54:00,933 --> 01:54:02,933
professional services and

3241
01:54:03,103 --> 01:54:04,437
improvements. So those those

3242
01:54:04,437 --> 01:54:05,104
items will star see moving

3243
01:54:05,104 --> 01:54:08,104
coming into the next budget

3244
01:54:10,977 --> 01:54:11,978
year.

3245
01:54:11,978 --> 01:54:12,912
>> Just touching on the

3246
01:54:12,912 --> 01:54:14,912
projected cash balance

3247
01:54:15,181 --> 01:54:17,160
forward. That is one of the

3248
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,953
items that going to true up

3249
01:54:19,953 --> 01:54:21,954
the value once the audit is

3250
01:54:21,954 --> 01:54:23,122
complete. And so there could

3251
01:54:23,122 --> 01:54:23,856
be a change are likely to be a

3252
01:54:23,856 --> 01:54:24,557
change due to the amount of

3253
01:54:24,557 --> 01:54:26,957
projects that were completed

3254
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,360
this fiscal year or that

3255
01:54:31,970 --> 01:54:31,798
fiscal year of 24. 25 so just

3256
01:54:31,798 --> 01:54:32,465
we will provide updates once

3257
01:54:32,465 --> 01:54:34,934
the audit is complete, but

3258
01:54:34,934 --> 01:54:35,635
just wanted to to let you know

3259
01:54:35,635 --> 01:54:39,235
that that's still not a true

3260
01:54:39,405 --> 01:54:40,140
true value. There.

3261
01:54:40,140 --> 01:54:40,840
>> What is the interest,

3262
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,240
including profit work? Where

3263
01:54:44,244 --> 01:54:47,844
is it coming from? Which under

3264
01:54:59,459 --> 01:55:01,459
miscellaneous second lawn.

3265
01:55:04,664 --> 01:55:05,398
>> We will.

3266
01:55:05,398 --> 01:55:08,398
>> Provide an update on Friday

3267
01:55:11,237 --> 01:55:11,938
on with that. Includes.

3268
01:55:11,938 --> 01:55:14,338
>> Justin does have anything

3269
01:55:15,741 --> 01:55:16,476
do with these services all in

3270
01:55:16,476 --> 01:55:20,676
Rolla and did not need to hear

3271
01:55:24,830 --> 01:55:26,860
from stepping back. Yeah, MR.

3272
01:55:26,860 --> 01:55:27,320
Ridley, tell us all the good

3273
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:28,255
things you're doing more just

3274
01:55:28,255 --> 01:55:28,955
the county's projects from

3275
01:55:28,955 --> 01:55:32,555
concept to close out into an

3276
01:55:34,260 --> 01:55:34,794
operation. When I came on is

3277
01:55:34,794 --> 01:55:36,964
The construction manager. I

3278
01:55:36,964 --> 01:55:38,231
thought that was the extent of

3279
01:55:38,231 --> 01:55:40,990
it. As I got more involved, I

3280
01:55:40,990 --> 01:55:40,767
see that I get to work with

3281
01:55:40,767 --> 01:55:43,767
all the departments in the

3282
01:55:45,105 --> 01:55:45,805
county. And on this

3283
01:55:45,805 --> 01:55:47,574
exceptional our team supreme.

3284
01:55:47,574 --> 01:55:49,308
When I say that I'm just

3285
01:55:49,308 --> 01:55:51,778
talking about my direct staff,

3286
01:55:51,778 --> 01:55:52,479
it kept improvements know

3287
01:55:52,479 --> 01:55:54,714
Susan Thomas Asiatic as Ida

3288
01:55:54,714 --> 01:55:55,381
status melt. They all the

3289
01:55:55,381 --> 01:55:58,381
great. I'll talk about the

3290
01:55:58,885 --> 01:55:59,485
county as a whole. When I work

3291
01:55:59,485 --> 01:56:00,487
on projects, different

3292
01:56:00,487 --> 01:56:02,487
apartments, fire Department

3293
01:56:07,627 --> 01:56:08,261
road and bridge. Facilities.

3294
01:56:08,261 --> 01:56:10,261
Any development everybody

3295
01:56:10,497 --> 01:56:11,364
steps in and does their part.

3296
01:56:11,364 --> 01:56:14,670
You know, it's like a family

3297
01:56:14,670 --> 01:56:15,200
and I enjoy that. We get these

3298
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:19,202
projects on the way in we plan

3299
01:56:19,272 --> 01:56:22,272
to. Market started the like

3300
01:56:24,211 --> 01:56:27,211
these and for the public.

3301
01:56:32,352 --> 01:56:34,454
>> budget director, keep you

3302
01:56:34,454 --> 01:56:36,323
in line smile. But nobody is

3303
01:56:36,323 --> 01:56:38,658
saying nobody is safe at that

3304
01:56:38,658 --> 01:56:42,258
podium. You know I know. I'm

3305
01:56:45,431 --> 01:56:47,234
telling dozens Masi like you

3306
01:56:47,234 --> 01:56:47,968
just Miles and obvious that

3307
01:56:47,968 --> 01:56:48,969
perfect do you get she gets to

3308
01:56:48,969 --> 01:56:51,504
brag about a graduate that you

3309
01:56:51,504 --> 01:56:54,140
MAY have in family. So. Yes,

3310
01:56:54,140 --> 01:56:57,140
my daughter, guys way. She's

3311
01:57:02,582 --> 01:57:04,582
Phd. Very

3312
01:57:05,850 --> 01:57:08,989
>> I MAY, I just want to thank

3313
01:57:08,989 --> 01:57:09,689
for for his partnership and

3314
01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:10,357
collaboration with the grants

3315
01:57:10,357 --> 01:57:13,261
Department out with some of

3316
01:57:13,261 --> 01:57:15,262
the changes that we have made

3317
01:57:15,262 --> 01:57:16,364
in grants. I can really see

3318
01:57:16,364 --> 01:57:17,640
the initiative that he's been

3319
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:18,132
taking, especially wanting to

3320
01:57:18,132 --> 01:57:20,300
learn the software that we

3321
01:57:20,300 --> 01:57:22,169
haven't and understand the

3322
01:57:22,169 --> 01:57:23,504
assurances as well as the the

3323
01:57:23,504 --> 01:57:24,710
weight that a grant carries to

3324
01:57:24,710 --> 01:57:26,471
ensure that all the

3325
01:57:26,674 --> 01:57:27,274
deliverables arm and tasks our

3326
01:57:27,274 --> 01:57:30,274
Matt as well. He's been

3327
01:57:31,712 --> 01:57:32,646
working great with our grant

3328
01:57:32,646 --> 01:57:33,346
specialist in terms of of

3329
01:57:33,346 --> 01:57:34,581
getting that the information

3330
01:57:34,581 --> 01:57:37,584
she needs to do the reporting.

3331
01:57:37,584 --> 01:57:38,251
So just want to thank him for

3332
01:57:38,251 --> 01:57:40,487
stepping up in that manner

3333
01:57:40,487 --> 01:57:42,789
because it is a lot,

3334
01:57:42,789 --> 01:57:43,857
especially with 304, fund. And

3335
01:57:43,857 --> 01:57:44,758
then now taking on the airport

3336
01:57:44,758 --> 01:57:47,894
as as a main point of

3337
01:57:47,894 --> 01:57:48,561
communications. So thank you.

3338
01:57:48,561 --> 01:57:52,161
>> She ate what you do for

3339
01:57:53,990 --> 01:57:55,499
Thank you. Anymore. Questions

3340
01:58:03,143 --> 01:58:04,344
comments about Okay. Onto the

3341
01:58:04,344 --> 01:58:06,744
304, which is a road

3342
01:58:09,583 --> 01:58:11,583
improvement capital projects.

3343
01:58:12,552 --> 01:58:15,322
>> As you can see, moving

3344
01:58:15,322 --> 01:58:16,457
into.

3345
01:58:16,457 --> 01:58:17,457
>> operational expenses, we

3346
01:58:17,457 --> 01:58:19,457
have 1.5 million dollars

3347
01:58:19,626 --> 01:58:20,828
budgeted this year. That is

3348
01:58:20,828 --> 01:58:21,462
far road improvement. That is

3349
01:58:21,462 --> 01:58:23,970
our paving improvement

3350
01:58:23,970 --> 01:58:26,970
projects that we do every

3351
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:26,934
single year. That is a

3352
01:58:26,934 --> 01:58:27,601
decrease. But that was based

3353
01:58:27,601 --> 01:58:29,536
off of some changes to the

3354
01:58:29,536 --> 01:58:32,536
board had made the previous

3355
01:58:34,876 --> 01:58:35,509
year. So. Other than that

3356
01:58:35,509 --> 01:58:37,845
under capital outlay our

3357
01:58:37,845 --> 01:58:40,213
capital outlay projects. We

3358
01:58:40,213 --> 01:58:42,213
have 18 million, 752 dollars

3359
01:58:45,752 --> 01:58:47,387
and 8 million, $752,623, which

3360
01:58:47,387 --> 01:58:50,900
is a reduction from the

3361
01:58:50,900 --> 01:58:51,925
previous year of 2 million,

3362
01:58:51,925 --> 01:58:54,325
902 dollars. And that's a

3363
01:58:55,662 --> 01:58:57,662
13.4% reduction. And non

3364
01:58:57,798 --> 01:59:00,798
operating. We have a change

3365
01:59:02,103 --> 01:59:04,103
from 1.5, 9, 5, That's a

3366
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:07,408
change to 1 million, 18 7.57,

3367
01:59:07,408 --> 01:59:10,110
which is a reduction of our

3368
01:59:10,110 --> 01:59:11,979
non-operating by 576,000,

3369
01:59:11,979 --> 01:59:14,979
which is another reduction of

3370
01:59:15,516 --> 01:59:16,783
36%. So total budget this year

3371
01:59:16,783 --> 01:59:19,783
for for that department, which

3372
01:59:20,988 --> 01:59:23,388
would be 21 million sept.

3373
01:59:24,792 --> 01:59:26,126
21 million, $271. $30338,

3374
01:59:26,126 --> 01:59:29,126
which is total reduction of 14

3375
01:59:31,832 --> 01:59:33,267
point 1, 0%. And for the

3376
01:59:33,267 --> 01:59:35,102
record, these are restricted

3377
01:59:35,102 --> 01:59:36,404
fund. See, yes, sir, to be

3378
01:59:36,404 --> 01:59:38,804
used for restricted grounds

3379
01:59:39,706 --> 01:59:40,808
and 99% of projects besides.

3380
01:59:40,808 --> 01:59:42,676
>> The 1.5 million that is out

3381
01:59:42,676 --> 01:59:45,676
of restricted funds are grant

3382
01:59:45,679 --> 01:59:48,679
funded projects these are all

3383
01:59:50,517 --> 01:59:51,652
projects that are funded.

3384
01:59:51,652 --> 01:59:52,652
Their grandson road

3385
01:59:52,652 --> 01:59:54,856
improvement. Yes, or road

3386
01:59:54,856 --> 01:59:55,523
improvements. Road

3387
01:59:55,523 --> 01:59:56,156
improvements. Signals ation

3388
01:59:56,156 --> 01:59:58,156
improvements. Those types

3389
02:00:00,327 --> 02:00:02,327
projects. Any questions,

3390
02:00:05,466 --> 02:00:06,634
comments. And as and as we

3391
02:00:06,634 --> 02:00:07,801
move through the year, you'll

3392
02:00:07,801 --> 02:00:08,502
probably see some more

3393
02:00:08,502 --> 02:00:10,371
amendments to this budget for

3394
02:00:10,371 --> 02:00:11,205
some other ones that are and

3395
02:00:11,205 --> 02:00:14,805
the works right now that we're

3396
02:00:15,509 --> 02:00:16,243
talking with fdot. About. So

3397
02:00:16,243 --> 02:00:16,943
they MAY be some projects that

3398
02:00:16,943 --> 02:00:18,780
are not budgeted, of course,

3399
02:00:18,780 --> 02:00:20,447
is we've we've talked about

3400
02:00:20,447 --> 02:00:21,810
previously not budgeting for

3401
02:00:21,810 --> 02:00:23,317
projects until we have to

3402
02:00:23,317 --> 02:00:25,286
grant in place. There is some

3403
02:00:25,286 --> 02:00:26,621
grant applications out there

3404
02:00:26,621 --> 02:00:27,321
right now that this department

3405
02:00:27,321 --> 02:00:30,321
would handle. And that's for

3406
02:00:34,462 --> 02:00:35,563
some other capital outlays.

3407
02:00:35,563 --> 02:00:38,563
Apparently I'm going to finish

3408
02:00:43,838 --> 02:00:44,472
it out. So moving into the for

3409
02:00:44,472 --> 02:00:45,206
a one 20 I'll take it

3410
02:00:45,206 --> 02:00:47,408
normally. Denise takes us one.

3411
02:00:47,408 --> 02:00:50,178
I'll go ahead and take it now

3412
02:00:50,178 --> 02:00:51,746
because this is a parks and

3413
02:00:51,746 --> 02:00:54,146
recreation site. Was through

3414
02:00:54,682 --> 02:00:58,282
She said she was done some

3415
02:00:58,586 --> 02:01:01,586
going to take up a

3416
02:01:02,990 --> 02:01:05,390
>> in the 4, 0, 21. There's no

3417
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:06,427
personnel services operating

3418
02:01:06,427 --> 02:01:09,427
expenses for that for that

3419
02:01:09,697 --> 02:01:13,897
site or for that part of that

3420
02:01:15,402 --> 02:01:16,671
site has increased to 54,000,

3421
02:01:16,671 --> 02:01:20,271
2.59. And that is a change in

3422
02:01:21,275 --> 02:01:21,909
increase of 9.3, 1% from the

3423
02:01:21,909 --> 02:01:24,309
previous year. That total

3424
02:01:24,545 --> 02:01:27,281
total budget increase would be

3425
02:01:27,281 --> 02:01:28,616
9.3, 1%. That is a total

3426
02:01:28,616 --> 02:01:30,317
budget and the authority of

3427
02:01:30,317 --> 02:01:30,919
that is just the utilities in

3428
02:01:30,919 --> 02:01:32,821
operation to keep that

3429
02:01:32,821 --> 02:01:34,589
facility up and running. There

3430
02:01:34,589 --> 02:01:36,570
is some revenue that comes in

3431
02:01:36,570 --> 02:01:39,127
there. But of course, we know

3432
02:01:39,127 --> 02:01:39,960
we're doing that on a

3433
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:41,960
month-to-month basis depending

3434
02:01:44,399 --> 02:01:45,199
on this when the sale comes a

3435
02:01:45,199 --> 02:01:45,867
kind of problem have of the

3436
02:01:45,867 --> 02:01:48,700
best rooms there that they

3437
02:01:48,700 --> 02:01:49,471
vandalized. Those very bad.

3438
02:01:49,471 --> 02:01:50,739
>> We barely have operational

3439
02:01:50,739 --> 02:01:53,739
bathrooms there. We have quit

3440
02:01:54,575 --> 02:01:56,110
making repairs at that site

3441
02:01:56,110 --> 02:01:56,978
because as we replace a

3442
02:01:56,978 --> 02:01:57,645
replace urinals are replaced

3443
02:01:57,645 --> 02:02:00,180
toilets. When we come back,

3444
02:02:00,180 --> 02:02:00,816
they're busted off. We don't

3445
02:02:00,816 --> 02:02:03,251
even have dividers in the

3446
02:02:03,251 --> 02:02:03,951
men's restroom at all. So the

3447
02:02:03,951 --> 02:02:05,486
toilet is just sitting out in

3448
02:02:05,486 --> 02:02:08,486
the wide open because every

3449
02:02:09,857 --> 02:02:12,927
time we replace it, it gets

3450
02:02:12,927 --> 02:02:13,961
vandalized. We did some. We

3451
02:02:13,961 --> 02:02:14,695
actually took some material

3452
02:02:14,695 --> 02:02:16,964
out. Another restroom moved it

3453
02:02:16,964 --> 02:02:17,666
over there. Did some repairs

3454
02:02:17,666 --> 02:02:20,201
year or so ago and then they

3455
02:02:20,201 --> 02:02:21,202
got vandalized again. We

3456
02:02:21,202 --> 02:02:24,802
pretty much or more running on

3457
02:02:25,172 --> 02:02:26,141
minimal operations. There. So

3458
02:02:26,141 --> 02:02:27,942
it's it's got a point where we

3459
02:02:27,942 --> 02:02:29,577
just were not making repairs

3460
02:02:29,577 --> 02:02:32,577
there because it was too

3461
02:02:33,130 --> 02:02:33,948
costly. We did not have the

3462
02:02:33,948 --> 02:02:36,117
budgetary dollars and then

3463
02:02:36,117 --> 02:02:37,117
even in the vacant buildings,

3464
02:02:37,117 --> 02:02:37,786
we get a significant amount of

3465
02:02:37,786 --> 02:02:39,860
vandalism. They have broke

3466
02:02:39,860 --> 02:02:41,486
into the old restaurant

3467
02:02:41,722 --> 02:02:43,190
building pretty much on a

3468
02:02:43,190 --> 02:02:43,924
monthly basis were back over

3469
02:02:43,924 --> 02:02:44,592
the re securing that building,

3470
02:02:44,592 --> 02:02:47,162
cutting through the roof to

3471
02:02:47,162 --> 02:02:48,229
get into it. I mean, from

3472
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:48,896
every which way the every

3473
02:02:48,896 --> 02:02:49,597
window and it's been busted

3474
02:02:49,597 --> 02:02:52,466
out, they've cut through the

3475
02:02:52,466 --> 02:02:53,134
roof to get in. It's

3476
02:02:53,134 --> 02:02:55,534
significant. The amount of

3477
02:02:55,904 --> 02:02:57,273
vandalism that happens at that

3478
02:02:57,273 --> 02:02:59,410
site. We've decided even if we

3479
02:02:59,410 --> 02:03:00,275
shut this down, we can't shut

3480
02:03:00,275 --> 02:03:01,900
package that down because its

3481
02:03:01,900 --> 02:03:03,409
services, Scott driver. You're

3482
02:03:03,444 --> 02:03:04,512
exactly right, sir.

3483
02:03:04,512 --> 02:03:05,179
>> Yes, its services, Scott

3484
02:03:05,179 --> 02:03:07,849
driver, we cannot shut the

3485
02:03:07,849 --> 02:03:08,783
package plant down. It has to

3486
02:03:08,783 --> 02:03:09,551
be operational.

3487
02:03:09,551 --> 02:03:12,551
>> And and as I stated

3488
02:03:13,121 --> 02:03:15,521
previously and Mondays. You

3489
02:03:17,920 --> 02:03:18,126
know, our utility costs here

3490
02:03:18,126 --> 02:03:18,927
are significantly high based

3491
02:03:18,927 --> 02:03:19,561
off of the Mir size that's

3492
02:03:19,561 --> 02:03:21,961
required to operate that

3493
02:03:23,965 --> 02:03:25,660
facility. That is one of the

3494
02:03:25,660 --> 02:03:25,600
one of the highest expenses at

3495
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,000
that site under the

3496
02:03:28,350 --> 02:03:28,736
operational side.

3497
02:03:28,736 --> 02:03:31,736
>> Could the gate being moved

3498
02:03:32,774 --> 02:03:33,674
from out back? When you go in

3499
02:03:33,674 --> 02:03:35,310
the entrance and turn right

3500
02:03:35,310 --> 02:03:35,977
like you're going to the boat

3501
02:03:35,977 --> 02:03:36,678
ramp, could that be gated,

3502
02:03:36,678 --> 02:03:38,380
right? There's a lot we could

3503
02:03:38,380 --> 02:03:39,314
do. We fenced.

3504
02:03:39,314 --> 02:03:40,415
>> Fenced a lot of the

3505
02:03:40,415 --> 02:03:43,415
facility off last year. The

3506
02:03:44,653 --> 02:03:45,520
Old campground campground, the

3507
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,922
the problem we will have if we

3508
02:03:47,922 --> 02:03:50,922
fence that facility off is

3509
02:03:51,426 --> 02:03:54,426
that we still have. Tenants

3510
02:03:55,290 --> 02:03:56,231
leases going on. So until the

3511
02:03:56,231 --> 02:03:56,864
board says shut it down, shut

3512
02:03:56,864 --> 02:04:00,464
down. As we know the boat

3513
02:04:01,937 --> 02:04:02,804
ramps are shut down. One is do

3514
02:04:02,804 --> 02:04:06,404
low water. Its actually I was

3515
02:04:07,376 --> 02:04:08,420
out there yesterday and the

3516
02:04:08,420 --> 02:04:11,420
water is actually past the

3517
02:04:11,313 --> 02:04:12,470
shear. The sheep, It is

3518
02:04:12,470 --> 02:04:14,820
actually a drop off at the Now

3519
02:04:14,820 --> 02:04:15,350
she pass completely exposed.

3520
02:04:15,350 --> 02:04:17,719
The other 3 ramps. There's a

3521
02:04:17,719 --> 02:04:18,654
significant erosion issue

3522
02:04:18,654 --> 02:04:19,821
underneath those. I've been

3523
02:04:19,821 --> 02:04:21,880
there myself. You can crawl

3524
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:22,570
underneath the back system

3525
02:04:22,570 --> 02:04:24,580
ramp so they had to be shut

3526
02:04:24,580 --> 02:04:24,760
down due to that.

3527
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,195
>> As the vandalism coming in

3528
02:04:27,195 --> 02:04:28,630
by boat or

3529
02:04:28,630 --> 02:04:32,134
>> No most of it comes in by

3530
02:04:32,134 --> 02:04:34,360
vehicle Yes, sir. Joining by

3531
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:34,770
vehicle. And we've done a

3532
02:04:34,770 --> 02:04:37,500
really good job. Facilities is

3533
02:04:37,500 --> 02:04:38,730
involved. Parks is involved

3534
02:04:38,730 --> 02:04:38,740
were all involved about trying

3535
02:04:38,740 --> 02:04:41,109
to keep people out. We have

3536
02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:42,100
people who camped there. We've

3537
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:44,546
put up new signage. Every time

3538
02:04:44,546 --> 02:04:45,681
we put new signs, a tear him

3539
02:04:45,681 --> 02:04:48,490
down. But but I go myself

3540
02:04:48,490 --> 02:04:50,449
every single Monday at 5.30,

3541
02:04:50,852 --> 02:04:51,820
or 6 o'clock in the morning. I

3542
02:04:51,820 --> 02:04:53,522
go down there and I do a drive

3543
02:04:53,522 --> 02:04:54,155
thru. And if somebody is there

3544
02:04:54,155 --> 02:04:56,555
camping overnight, I give

3545
02:04:56,624 --> 02:04:58,590
them. A notice. If there's

3546
02:04:58,590 --> 02:05:00,162
nobody that will answer the

3547
02:05:00,162 --> 02:05:01,296
door. If I get answer the

3548
02:05:01,296 --> 02:05:01,997
door, I will explain to them.

3549
02:05:01,997 --> 02:05:04,333
They cannot do it. There's no

3550
02:05:04,333 --> 02:05:04,933
overnight camping there. They

3551
02:05:04,933 --> 02:05:05,667
cannot be their camping

3552
02:05:05,667 --> 02:05:07,836
overnight because the majority

3553
02:05:07,836 --> 02:05:08,603
of the vandalism is some of

3554
02:05:08,603 --> 02:05:09,304
those people who are living in

3555
02:05:09,304 --> 02:05:12,274
their car. They're down there

3556
02:05:12,274 --> 02:05:13,375
there plugging in. We

3557
02:05:13,375 --> 02:05:14,410
literally have someone that

3558
02:05:14,410 --> 02:05:15,778
we've had to run off multiple

3559
02:05:15,778 --> 02:05:16,346
times who has an extension

3560
02:05:16,346 --> 02:05:17,460
cord plugged into the

3561
02:05:17,460 --> 02:05:19,614
restrooms with the wind, the

3562
02:05:19,614 --> 02:05:21,830
units the window, their car.

3563
02:05:21,830 --> 02:05:21,817
And we've had to run them off

3564
02:05:21,817 --> 02:05:22,484
a few times. And now we're at

3565
02:05:22,484 --> 02:05:25,484
the point where they'll be

3566
02:05:25,954 --> 02:05:28,354
trespassed. What about that?

3567
02:05:28,958 --> 02:05:29,659
Yes, yes. Yeah. Very

3568
02:05:29,659 --> 02:05:30,425
resourceful. They've they've

3569
02:05:30,425 --> 02:05:34,250
come up with some great ideas.

3570
02:05:34,563 --> 02:05:35,797
But I will say that the

3571
02:05:35,797 --> 02:05:38,797
dumping of the dumping of

3572
02:05:39,340 --> 02:05:40,368
trash has gotten much better.

3573
02:05:40,368 --> 02:05:41,436
In the back of the facility.

3574
02:05:41,436 --> 02:05:42,704
We still have the issues of

3575
02:05:42,704 --> 02:05:43,505
trash cans where the people

3576
02:05:43,505 --> 02:05:45,774
come over from Glades that

3577
02:05:45,774 --> 02:05:46,408
just dropped bags of trash

3578
02:05:46,408 --> 02:05:48,808
throughout the weekend in

3579
02:05:49,744 --> 02:05:50,312
front of the trash cans and it

3580
02:05:50,312 --> 02:05:51,512
sometimes it could be

3581
02:05:51,512 --> 02:05:52,948
significant amount of bags of

3582
02:05:52,948 --> 02:05:53,815
trash that come from. And what

3583
02:05:53,815 --> 02:05:54,949
we've learned now, that's

3584
02:05:54,949 --> 02:05:55,683
people who are not paying for

3585
02:05:55,683 --> 02:05:56,451
trash service in Glades County

3586
02:05:56,451 --> 02:05:59,451
coming do charity and dumping

3587
02:06:05,994 --> 02:06:06,728
it there. There's another

3588
02:06:06,728 --> 02:06:09,970
>> If if I can just add really

3589
02:06:09,970 --> 02:06:10,799
quickly, just so to give you

3590
02:06:10,799 --> 02:06:11,567
some reference, we do have

3591
02:06:11,567 --> 02:06:14,503
active boat slip rentals at

3592
02:06:14,503 --> 02:06:15,771
the location right now. But we

3593
02:06:15,771 --> 02:06:16,604
are going month by month. So

3594
02:06:16,604 --> 02:06:17,906
we only have rentals up

3595
02:06:17,906 --> 02:06:18,674
through the end of JULY and

3596
02:06:18,674 --> 02:06:19,408
they're only 4 slips being

3597
02:06:19,408 --> 02:06:23,800
rented right now. We're in the

3598
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,182
offseason. Pick up as we go

3599
02:06:26,182 --> 02:06:27,649
into OCTOBER or NOVEMBER.

3600
02:06:27,649 --> 02:06:28,650
We're going to start seeing

3601
02:06:28,650 --> 02:06:30,180
those increase. But right now

3602
02:06:30,180 --> 02:06:30,886
there's only 4 slips being

3603
02:06:30,886 --> 02:06:34,486
rented. So if we decided to

3604
02:06:36,326 --> 02:06:37,125
make a the decision. We're

3605
02:06:37,125 --> 02:06:37,826
only displacing 4 people at

3606
02:06:37,826 --> 02:06:40,996
this point. It could you give

3607
02:06:40,996 --> 02:06:43,365
them for kids lock it. But so

3608
02:06:43,365 --> 02:06:46,335
many people want to fish. Say

3609
02:06:46,335 --> 02:06:47,269
they want shut the bank down

3610
02:06:47,269 --> 02:06:48,203
there.

3611
02:06:48,203 --> 02:06:49,905
>> And we actually do. That's

3612
02:06:49,905 --> 02:06:52,107
that clown fish to them. A

3613
02:06:52,107 --> 02:06:52,807
call. That's where they like

3614
02:06:52,807 --> 02:06:55,978
to be is right in that Marina

3615
02:06:55,978 --> 02:06:58,614
side, we actually You say what

3616
02:06:58,614 --> 02:06:59,281
you say, but a trial clown. I

3617
02:06:59,281 --> 02:07:02,281
fish. He's one of those

3618
02:07:03,385 --> 02:07:04,860
invasives. It's a big, weird

3619
02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:04,720
looking fish and they like to

3620
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,720
hang around there in that

3621
02:07:09,691 --> 02:07:10,726
basin. I mean, pretty know.

3622
02:07:10,726 --> 02:07:11,427
>> We're talking about boat

3623
02:07:11,427 --> 02:07:12,461
slips, but they can still put

3624
02:07:12,461 --> 02:07:15,230
in at Scott driver and access

3625
02:07:15,230 --> 02:07:16,198
that area by boat.

3626
02:07:16,198 --> 02:07:16,899
>> Yes, yes, yes. But like in

3627
02:07:16,899 --> 02:07:19,969
that case, we don't bring the

3628
02:07:19,969 --> 02:07:24,169
boat. We just a code word. Sit

3629
02:07:24,373 --> 02:07:27,973
on office it. Wasting time his

3630
02:07:28,430 --> 02:07:31,643
or Dressed in a clown suit

3631
02:07:34,500 --> 02:07:34,750
catching a fish. Thank Justin.

3632
02:07:34,750 --> 02:07:37,253
Well, I got one more for you.

3633
02:07:37,253 --> 02:07:39,653
We're not finished containing.

3634
02:07:42,991 --> 02:07:43,392
So, but no, she him.

3635
02:07:43,392 --> 02:07:45,392
>> question

3636
02:07:47,730 --> 02:07:49,932
>> on Thomas Lee. Lauren. The

3637
02:07:49,932 --> 02:07:50,766
21. But for what I want is the

3638
02:07:50,766 --> 02:07:53,766
parkside. And then we have 66,

3639
02:07:58,741 --> 02:07:59,475
which is the maintenance side.

3640
02:07:59,475 --> 02:08:03,750
There should be a I mean, 66

3641
02:08:03,245 --> 02:08:06,845
slide. Also. I did. I keep

3642
02:08:08,250 --> 02:08:11,850
pushing it. We pay Yes, sir.

3643
02:08:12,621 --> 02:08:15,621
It's contract mode. There we

3644
02:08:17,659 --> 02:08:20,950
go. As the chair just stated,

3645
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:20,762
the majority of the

3646
02:08:20,762 --> 02:08:21,897
operational costs that are

3647
02:08:21,897 --> 02:08:23,650
that are at this site are

3648
02:08:23,650 --> 02:08:25,340
contract mowing.

3649
02:08:25,340 --> 02:08:28,370
>> We this this out that did

3650
02:08:28,370 --> 02:08:28,904
go out for bid 2? I think

3651
02:08:28,904 --> 02:08:31,304
we're 2 years into that

3652
02:08:32,307 --> 02:08:35,770
contract. That did go out for

3653
02:08:35,770 --> 02:08:36,378
bid. They were by far lowest

3654
02:08:36,378 --> 02:08:37,460
bidder. So the majority of

3655
02:08:37,460 --> 02:08:39,149
what's expense there is

3656
02:08:39,149 --> 02:08:41,549
contracted mowing at that

3657
02:08:41,951 --> 02:08:43,819
site. The other stuff is just

3658
02:08:43,819 --> 02:08:44,520
general repair items that we

3659
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:45,188
have to make just to be able

3660
02:08:45,188 --> 02:08:48,390
to keep the park open. And

3661
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:49,910
it's very minimal of what we

3662
02:08:49,910 --> 02:08:50,993
expense. 43,000 of that

3663
02:08:50,993 --> 02:08:52,993
$45,000 budget. Is

3664
02:08:55,497 --> 02:08:57,497
contracting. That riverside,

3665
02:08:59,102 --> 02:08:59,769
yes, sir. Riverside has that

3666
02:08:59,769 --> 02:09:00,436
contract. They have all the

3667
02:09:00,436 --> 02:09:03,436
county stuff outside of the

3668
02:09:06,750 --> 02:09:06,809
thing make. Yesterday. They

3669
02:09:06,809 --> 02:09:09,809
do. They do 5. I think 5

3670
02:09:11,414 --> 02:09:13,414
facilities now. Commissioner

3671
02:09:14,830 --> 02:09:14,750
to cuddle.

3672
02:09:14,750 --> 02:09:16,485
>> While we're on that, you

3673
02:09:16,485 --> 02:09:19,288
want talk about the fans at

3674
02:09:19,288 --> 02:09:22,288
the ag Center. The defense

3675
02:09:22,892 --> 02:09:24,861
said the egg center.

3676
02:09:24,861 --> 02:09:26,290
>> Just one part of the

3677
02:09:26,290 --> 02:09:29,290
Accenture before the 4th of

3678
02:09:30,332 --> 02:09:31,660
JULY, kind of scope of the

3679
02:09:31,660 --> 02:09:31,767
scope out the set up and think

3680
02:09:31,767 --> 02:09:34,103
Jen that were not maintaining

3681
02:09:34,103 --> 02:09:37,703
the. Taking care of our feed.

3682
02:09:40,510 --> 02:09:42,780
Lot Fence line with 4 finals,

3683
02:09:42,780 --> 02:09:44,478
3, 4 feet high offense which

3684
02:09:47,490 --> 02:09:48,518
fence line 77, 10 on 7.10, out

3685
02:09:48,518 --> 02:09:49,986
be the victims are down 70

3686
02:09:49,986 --> 02:09:50,621
Make sure that that's on our

3687
02:09:50,621 --> 02:09:51,521
spray schedule.

3688
02:09:51,521 --> 02:09:54,521
>> We'll get that taken Really

3689
02:09:55,624 --> 02:09:56,459
pet? Yeah. So and their

3690
02:09:56,459 --> 02:09:57,493
contract they don't have to

3691
02:09:57,493 --> 02:09:58,127
mow those tents. Are we this

3692
02:09:58,127 --> 02:10:01,127
fence lines? We do that

3693
02:10:01,964 --> 02:10:02,632
chemical. So I will make sure

3694
02:10:02,632 --> 02:10:05,632
that that's on the schedule

3695
02:10:07,636 --> 02:10:08,337
will get the handle. We did.

3696
02:10:08,337 --> 02:10:09,500
Just for reference, we win a

3697
02:10:09,500 --> 02:10:11,405
significant amount of time

3698
02:10:12,575 --> 02:10:13,275
without a licensed. Someone

3699
02:10:13,275 --> 02:10:13,976
who was licensed herbicides.

3700
02:10:13,976 --> 02:10:15,878
So that's taking a little bit

3701
02:10:15,878 --> 02:10:17,790
of time to get someone who has

3702
02:10:17,790 --> 02:10:18,614
the licensing and we don't

3703
02:10:18,614 --> 02:10:19,315
want another issue like we had

3704
02:10:19,315 --> 02:10:20,160
at cemetery few years ago. So

3705
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:21,417
we will make sure we're doing

3706
02:10:21,417 --> 02:10:25,321
it the right way. One of them,

3707
02:10:25,321 --> 02:10:26,522
one of the but as we pay for

3708
02:10:26,522 --> 02:10:28,190
somebody for less. And so

3709
02:10:28,190 --> 02:10:29,192
assume that's what it was for.

3710
02:10:29,192 --> 02:10:31,294
Yes, or somebody that was road

3711
02:10:31,294 --> 02:10:31,828
department. Yes, sir. We do

3712
02:10:31,828 --> 02:10:32,728
read department and

3713
02:10:32,728 --> 02:10:35,128
facilities. Both both licensed

3714
02:10:36,732 --> 02:10:37,600
herbicide. And then we also

3715
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,600
contracts a certain amount of

3716
02:10:42,272 --> 02:10:45,374
it. We do now contract out you

3717
02:10:45,374 --> 02:10:46,609
know, one of the examples see

3718
02:10:46,609 --> 02:10:47,677
Scott driver. We contract out

3719
02:10:47,677 --> 02:10:48,377
that Bird sanctuary area and

3720
02:10:48,377 --> 02:10:51,514
some of the stuff down there

3721
02:10:51,514 --> 02:10:52,882
with the contractor just.

3722
02:10:52,882 --> 02:10:53,616
Being on the lakeside. I feel

3723
02:10:53,616 --> 02:10:54,350
more comfortable knowing that

3724
02:10:54,350 --> 02:10:56,519
we're using the right types of

3725
02:10:56,519 --> 02:10:59,519
chemicals and someone who is

3726
02:10:59,522 --> 02:11:03,122
very for fish very well versed

3727
02:11:04,227 --> 02:11:06,129
spring. Those types other than

3728
02:11:06,129 --> 02:11:08,264
that, I think I've finished up

3729
02:11:08,264 --> 02:11:11,264
the whole budget. I'll close

3730
02:11:15,705 --> 02:11:17,507
it out. Thank you. Okay.

3731
02:11:17,507 --> 02:11:18,241
Commissioners, anything we

3732
02:11:18,241 --> 02:11:19,410
want to specifically come back

3733
02:11:19,410 --> 02:11:19,676
to look is Jessica's got

3734
02:11:19,676 --> 02:11:21,676
something she's bringing

3735
02:11:23,279 --> 02:11:23,946
Friday.

3736
02:11:23,946 --> 02:11:26,946
>> I think she brought some

3737
02:11:27,117 --> 02:11:28,818
today for us to get to review

3738
02:11:28,818 --> 02:11:29,519
>> Yes, I do have that. If you

3739
02:11:29,519 --> 02:11:32,519
have anything from today that

3740
02:11:35,825 --> 02:11:39,425
you'd like to take some notes.

3741
02:11:39,595 --> 02:11:40,296
>> I think overall we've been

3742
02:11:40,296 --> 02:11:42,650
through this whole budget. It

3743
02:11:42,650 --> 02:11:43,366
looks fairly decent. There's

3744
02:11:43,366 --> 02:11:46,102
some things that I think we

3745
02:11:46,102 --> 02:11:48,104
really need take a look at

3746
02:11:48,104 --> 02:11:51,704
continue to try to. Maybe a

3747
02:11:54,778 --> 02:11:56,813
work toward. I want win back

3748
02:11:56,813 --> 02:11:58,815
to it last night and the

3749
02:11:58,815 --> 02:12:00,383
numbers make proposition

3750
02:12:00,383 --> 02:12:02,783
recommendation to the board.

3751
02:12:03,419 --> 02:12:06,257
Is that anybody? It's over 5%.

3752
02:12:06,257 --> 02:12:09,257
Increase. They need to bring

3753
02:12:11,794 --> 02:12:13,363
it down to 5%. Because I think

3754
02:12:13,363 --> 02:12:14,197
that's something reasonable

3755
02:12:14,197 --> 02:12:17,797
because the bocc is it for

3756
02:12:18,601 --> 02:12:21,601
4.2. Right. You don't get down

3757
02:12:24,730 --> 02:12:24,774
roughly 4%. 4%. So I think

3758
02:12:24,774 --> 02:12:25,375
anybody, anybody that we went

3759
02:12:25,375 --> 02:12:26,242
through here today and

3760
02:12:26,242 --> 02:12:28,878
yesterday and the day before.

3761
02:12:28,878 --> 02:12:32,480
I think that they need to take

3762
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:33,583
their country sharp it up. Get

3763
02:12:33,583 --> 02:12:34,251
it down to 5, anything. It's

3764
02:12:34,251 --> 02:12:36,651
like anything. We're 5% get

3765
02:12:37,540 --> 02:12:39,322
back down to 5%. Because at

3766
02:12:39,322 --> 02:12:39,956
the end of the day, is that?

3767
02:12:39,956 --> 02:12:43,556
We only have x amount of

3768
02:12:44,494 --> 02:12:45,728
money. And I think that one

3769
02:12:45,728 --> 02:12:46,429
thing I want to bring back up

3770
02:12:46,429 --> 02:12:48,698
also, I think that we kind of

3771
02:12:48,698 --> 02:12:51,698
missed today. And Justin, this

3772
02:12:52,468 --> 02:12:54,737
is on your side of the House.

3773
02:12:54,737 --> 02:12:55,471
I think that we we missed

3774
02:12:55,471 --> 02:12:57,871
really articulating that yours

3775
02:12:59,909 --> 02:13:00,844
is only what, 5. But me out

3776
02:13:00,844 --> 02:13:02,844
here.

3777
02:13:03,813 --> 02:13:04,715
>> It's 7% total with the

3778
02:13:04,715 --> 02:13:05,415
landfill, trust loans. So I

3779
02:13:05,415 --> 02:13:07,815
have without those actually

3780
02:13:09,352 --> 02:13:10,287
budget reduction of about 2%.

3781
02:13:10,287 --> 02:13:11,321
>> Okay. So you're going make

3782
02:13:11,321 --> 02:13:12,220
sure that that's out because

3783
02:13:12,220 --> 02:13:14,925
we missed kind of making sure

3784
02:13:14,925 --> 02:13:15,626
that that was demonstrated

3785
02:13:15,626 --> 02:13:18,395
that it's not what we saw on

3786
02:13:18,395 --> 02:13:19,950
the board. It's just basically

3787
02:13:19,950 --> 02:13:20,863
we're moving money around and

3788
02:13:20,863 --> 02:13:22,165
makes it a little bit

3789
02:13:22,165 --> 02:13:24,768
different. But I think from my

3790
02:13:24,768 --> 02:13:26,770
perspective, I think we should

3791
02:13:26,770 --> 02:13:27,471
tell anybody any of the

3792
02:13:27,471 --> 02:13:30,700
constitutional Ys, any of us

3793
02:13:30,700 --> 02:13:33,509
us over 5%. We need to forget

3794
02:13:33,509 --> 02:13:34,144
about the 5%. And I think you

3795
02:13:34,144 --> 02:13:36,790
want to remember when the

3796
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:38,790
sheriff's department 6.8 to

3797
02:13:38,148 --> 02:13:39,449
her, I think you had the clerk

3798
02:13:39,449 --> 02:13:42,449
of court was 6.1, the cause

3799
02:13:43,220 --> 02:13:44,554
and the sheriff of 6 point,

3800
02:13:44,554 --> 02:13:46,222
the 2 of my members to

3801
02:13:46,222 --> 02:13:48,525
correct. And I believe those

3802
02:13:48,525 --> 02:13:50,460
are I don't know if there's a

3803
02:13:50,460 --> 02:13:51,361
look over the sheriff in a in

3804
02:13:51,361 --> 02:13:52,662
a minute. But I just finish

3805
02:13:52,662 --> 02:13:56,262
but I think that's what that

3806
02:14:01,710 --> 02:14:01,905
would be. My My head.

3807
02:14:01,905 --> 02:14:02,573
>> I have a hand out here. I'm

3808
02:14:02,573 --> 02:14:06,173
going to go ahead and pass

3809
02:14:07,444 --> 02:14:10,444
down. Based on the closing

3810
02:14:12,115 --> 02:14:14,151
yesterday. We needed to

3811
02:14:14,151 --> 02:14:16,860
identify what the amended

3812
02:14:16,860 --> 02:14:16,753
number actually was as well as

3813
02:14:16,753 --> 02:14:19,155
adopted, as well as what's

3814
02:14:19,155 --> 02:14:19,856
being proposed. So

3815
02:14:19,856 --> 02:14:23,456
>> the first she is going to

3816
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:28,229
be. A few numbers. You have

3817
02:14:28,464 --> 02:14:30,134
what was initially requested.

3818
02:14:30,134 --> 02:14:32,134
25 26 then the board

3819
02:14:33,770 --> 02:14:34,871
direction. Then at that time

3820
02:14:34,871 --> 02:14:35,539
was have them tighten their

3821
02:14:35,539 --> 02:14:37,541
numbers. So then they came

3822
02:14:37,541 --> 02:14:40,377
back and it was adopted. So

3823
02:14:40,377 --> 02:14:43,977
you have that number there at

3824
02:14:44,614 --> 02:14:45,715
29 million, 990,000, 702. We

3825
02:14:45,715 --> 02:14:47,500
did look in atg because that's

3826
02:14:47,500 --> 02:14:50,500
our financial record that we

3827
02:14:51,155 --> 02:14:52,388
use when we budget. 4 within

3828
02:14:52,388 --> 02:14:53,990
the budget office. So within

3829
02:14:53,990 --> 02:14:55,580
atg, the number that has been

3830
02:14:55,580 --> 02:14:57,293
updated since the budget book

3831
02:14:57,293 --> 02:14:59,630
is highlighted there in Orange

3832
02:14:59,630 --> 02:15:01,332
for corrections. But that

3833
02:15:01,332 --> 02:15:04,332
brings your atg amended to

3834
02:15:05,235 --> 02:15:07,235
31 Million 2, 0, 4, 108. What

3835
02:15:08,205 --> 02:15:08,872
the sheriff's office

3836
02:15:08,872 --> 02:15:10,872
presentation provided. Was

3837
02:15:12,942 --> 02:15:16,542
here in Pink. So you Cso

3838
02:15:16,813 --> 02:15:18,813
amended. 25 26. That does

3839
02:15:19,783 --> 02:15:21,718
include an additional

3840
02:15:21,718 --> 02:15:24,118
$183,075. There was a comment

3841
02:15:24,187 --> 02:15:24,889
mention that there was going

3842
02:15:24,889 --> 02:15:28,489
to be a budget amendment soon

3843
02:15:28,759 --> 02:15:31,280
in regards to implementing the

3844
02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:33,428
increase in Frs further

3845
02:15:33,631 --> 02:15:36,400
quarter, as well as the fuel

3846
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:39,400
expense. So that's what that

3847
02:15:39,703 --> 02:15:41,305
$183,075 increase from the

3848
02:15:41,305 --> 02:15:43,705
presentation. So this should

3849
02:15:44,975 --> 02:15:47,478
be the amended number. And

3850
02:15:47,478 --> 02:15:48,813
then you have what was

3851
02:15:48,813 --> 02:15:51,213
proposed originally and then

3852
02:15:52,182 --> 02:15:53,984
what they proposed at at the

3853
02:15:53,984 --> 02:15:55,984
meeting in their

3854
02:15:56,153 --> 02:15:56,820
presentations. So you'll have

3855
02:15:56,820 --> 02:15:57,588
the percentages, its color

3856
02:15:57,588 --> 02:15:59,156
coded to reference what

3857
02:15:59,156 --> 02:16:01,959
percentage it goes back to if

3858
02:16:01,959 --> 02:16:05,620
you wanted to know what the

3859
02:16:05,620 --> 02:16:05,662
percentages from adopted 2,

3860
02:16:05,662 --> 02:16:08,620
the proposed. It's all

3861
02:16:10,233 --> 02:16:10,901
referencing the proposed from

3862
02:16:10,901 --> 02:16:12,901
presentation of 33 Million.

3863
02:16:15,973 --> 02:16:17,973
283. And 24. Additionally,

3864
02:16:20,744 --> 02:16:21,411
your second handout. Attach

3865
02:16:21,411 --> 02:16:23,470
their to talks about health

3866
02:16:23,470 --> 02:16:25,470
insurance and workers

3867
02:16:28,819 --> 02:16:31,219
compensation. We talked about

3868
02:16:31,789 --> 02:16:32,790
this extensively staff and I

3869
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:35,790
Lisa specifically in terms of

3870
02:16:36,827 --> 02:16:37,528
trying to find a number

3871
02:16:37,528 --> 02:16:41,128
relative to fsa for the bocc

3872
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,467
or relative to for the

3873
02:16:43,467 --> 02:16:44,669
sheriff's office for workers

3874
02:16:44,669 --> 02:16:47,690
compensation. And there's just

3875
02:16:47,905 --> 02:16:50,540
too many variables that come

3876
02:16:50,540 --> 02:16:51,575
into to have an apples to

3877
02:16:51,575 --> 02:16:53,975
apples comparison on workers,

3878
02:16:55,512 --> 02:16:58,512
compensation. So if the board

3879
02:16:58,582 --> 02:16:59,717
does want us to go out and get

3880
02:16:59,717 --> 02:17:02,717
quotes go to through a

3881
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:03,821
competitive process. We can do

3882
02:17:03,821 --> 02:17:06,570
that just we would do it for

3883
02:17:06,570 --> 02:17:06,857
next fiscal year. So just

3884
02:17:06,857 --> 02:17:09,693
wanted to provide you where

3885
02:17:09,693 --> 02:17:10,828
we're at. We did get that per

3886
02:17:10,828 --> 02:17:13,228
full-time employee number for

3887
02:17:13,697 --> 02:17:14,332
health insurance. But again,

3888
02:17:14,332 --> 02:17:15,660
there's other variables.

3889
02:17:15,660 --> 02:17:16,200
They're dependent on the plans

3890
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:19,200
that they're offering. If it

3891
02:17:19,570 --> 02:17:20,838
is an apples to apples

3892
02:17:20,838 --> 02:17:22,173
comparison. So if this is

3893
02:17:22,173 --> 02:17:22,873
something a direction from the

3894
02:17:22,873 --> 02:17:25,843
board, we're more than happy

3895
02:17:25,843 --> 02:17:26,644
to move forward. I just didn't

3896
02:17:26,644 --> 02:17:28,512
want to provide a an accurate

3897
02:17:28,512 --> 02:17:29,280
number for workers.

3898
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:30,981
Compensation due to all the

3899
02:17:30,981 --> 02:17:33,284
variables that come into play.

3900
02:17:33,284 --> 02:17:36,870
One of them being the what's

3901
02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:37,188
called the experience

3902
02:17:37,188 --> 02:17:39,188
modification rating. That's

3903
02:17:40,724 --> 02:17:41,959
basically the risk rate and

3904
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:44,629
our Chris great is 0.8, 9 and

3905
02:17:44,629 --> 02:17:45,663
anything below one is better

3906
02:17:45,663 --> 02:17:48,630
than average, which typically

3907
02:17:48,465 --> 02:17:49,340
provides lower premiums. We

3908
02:17:49,340 --> 02:17:51,403
don't know what that

3909
02:17:51,403 --> 02:17:52,137
modification rating is for the

3910
02:17:52,137 --> 02:17:55,137
sheriff's office. And if we

3911
02:17:56,208 --> 02:17:56,907
are added to that poll pool

3912
02:17:56,907 --> 02:17:58,907
within workers compensation,

3913
02:18:00,278 --> 02:18:00,979
then we then have that Chris

3914
02:18:00,979 --> 02:18:01,712
great applied as well. So it

3915
02:18:01,712 --> 02:18:04,112
could potentially increase our

3916
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:06,351
premium. So there's just and

3917
02:18:06,351 --> 02:18:08,386
you'll see of the list here on

3918
02:18:08,386 --> 02:18:09,253
how the calculation is for the

3919
02:18:09,253 --> 02:18:09,987
premiums as well as what

3920
02:18:09,987 --> 02:18:11,556
factors come into play when it

3921
02:18:11,556 --> 02:18:13,556
comes to workers.

3922
02:18:13,557 --> 02:18:15,557
Compensation. Typically the

3923
02:18:16,427 --> 02:18:17,128
policies are bundled with your

3924
02:18:17,128 --> 02:18:17,795
property and casualty. So you

3925
02:18:17,795 --> 02:18:19,196
have your health insurance,

3926
02:18:19,196 --> 02:18:20,932
then you have your property

3927
02:18:20,932 --> 02:18:22,300
and casualty with workers

3928
02:18:22,300 --> 02:18:22,900
compensation. So

3929
02:18:22,900 --> 02:18:24,900
>> they're 2 different

3930
02:18:27,572 --> 02:18:28,872
processes. And functions that.

3931
02:18:28,872 --> 02:18:29,507
That come into play when

3932
02:18:29,507 --> 02:18:32,911
trying to get a quote for

3933
02:18:32,911 --> 02:18:35,911
premium. And I'll stop there

3934
02:18:38,683 --> 02:18:40,683
as your value 18.

3935
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:46,200
>> Thank It was good. Very,

3936
02:18:47,224 --> 02:18:47,925
very good. Must hold up.

3937
02:18:47,925 --> 02:18:50,925
>> Could we lower their risk

3938
02:18:50,961 --> 02:18:53,640
rate we can mine?

3939
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:56,664
>> I don't. I don't know that

3940
02:18:56,867 --> 02:18:58,503
be a question because it's the

3941
02:18:58,503 --> 02:18:59,170
5th Florida Sheriffs

3942
02:18:59,170 --> 02:18:59,871
Association said the entire

3943
02:18:59,871 --> 02:19:02,240
state. So it's it's I group,

3944
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:04,240
correct? And there's

3945
02:19:06,177 --> 02:19:06,878
different. It gets very

3946
02:19:06,878 --> 02:19:07,912
convoluted. There's different

3947
02:19:07,912 --> 02:19:11,249
towers that you can be applied

3948
02:19:11,249 --> 02:19:14,849
to. So just dependent on how.

3949
02:19:23,661 --> 02:19:24,295
How it's invested.

3950
02:19:24,295 --> 02:19:26,695
>> And that last amended

3951
02:19:28,933 --> 02:19:31,333
numbers. Don't know the

3952
02:19:33,304 --> 02:19:34,972
bottom. Bottom, right? It has

3953
02:19:34,972 --> 02:19:36,607
it as the percent change of

3954
02:19:36,607 --> 02:19:39,700
county sheriff's in the

3955
02:19:43,140 --> 02:19:45,414
budget. Plus one 83 75. Help

3956
02:19:47,919 --> 02:19:50,319
me. Is that one? 83 75

3957
02:19:51,522 --> 02:19:53,522
included in the 6.1 8.

3958
02:19:53,758 --> 02:19:56,158
>> So there presentation. Had

3959
02:19:59,531 --> 02:20:01,531
a

3960
02:20:03,702 --> 02:20:06,702
>> one 11,000 for it for us.

3961
02:20:08,107 --> 02:20:08,740
>> So their budget

3962
02:20:08,740 --> 02:20:10,541
presentation had just did

3963
02:20:10,541 --> 02:20:11,242
budget total of 33 million to

3964
02:20:11,242 --> 02:20:13,642
83, 0, 2, 4, which is what is

3965
02:20:19,317 --> 02:20:22,917
shown there. But you'll see at

3966
02:20:22,921 --> 02:20:23,655
the top line, 20 million 3.74,

3967
02:20:23,655 --> 02:20:26,290
where the total net adjustment

3968
02:20:26,290 --> 02:20:28,690
was added. From their

3969
02:20:30,828 --> 02:20:32,397
presentations. So that's where

3970
02:20:32,397 --> 02:20:35,397
the increase took place. As

3971
02:20:35,867 --> 02:20:36,601
far as the one. 25 when it

3972
02:20:36,601 --> 02:20:38,670
comes sorry. But that's that's

3973
02:20:38,670 --> 02:20:39,337
not your question. Sorry.

3974
02:20:39,337 --> 02:20:41,737
>> Going back, the amended

3975
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:46,444
here. The one 83 0, 7, 5, was

3976
02:20:46,444 --> 02:20:48,413
added to the law enforcement

3977
02:20:48,413 --> 02:20:51,315
because of frs and the fuel

3978
02:20:51,315 --> 02:20:53,318
expense and their 4th quarter.

3979
02:20:53,318 --> 02:20:53,651
What was your question? I'm

3980
02:20:53,651 --> 02:20:55,651
sorry.

3981
02:20:55,853 --> 02:20:56,454
>> I was just want to see if

3982
02:20:56,454 --> 02:20:59,454
that was the weights as

3983
02:21:01,993 --> 02:21:02,894
percent change. Plus one 83 as

3984
02:21:02,894 --> 02:21:05,894
should say, inclusive of the

3985
02:21:07,999 --> 02:21:10,100
one 83. Yeah. So that's just a

3986
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:10,635
ok? I if I needed also add

3987
02:21:10,635 --> 02:21:11,370
that no, that that's been

3988
02:21:11,370 --> 02:21:14,370
added. That's just letting you

3989
02:21:14,539 --> 02:21:16,609
know, that that's part

3990
02:21:16,609 --> 02:21:17,610
inclusive or yes, because

3991
02:21:17,610 --> 02:21:18,543
presentation.

3992
02:21:18,543 --> 02:21:20,780
>> When you look at the

3993
02:21:20,780 --> 02:21:23,780
amended budget slide that they

3994
02:21:23,982 --> 02:21:25,116
had their amended budget on

3995
02:21:25,116 --> 02:21:27,116
their presentation. Had

3996
02:21:28,120 --> 02:21:29,387
31 Million 1.64. To 36. So if

3997
02:21:29,387 --> 02:21:31,890
you saw discrepancy by looking

3998
02:21:31,890 --> 02:21:32,391
at their presentation, I

3999
02:21:32,391 --> 02:21:34,192
wanted it to be clear that i

4000
02:21:34,192 --> 02:21:36,294
then added the one 83 0, 7, 5

4001
02:21:36,294 --> 02:21:36,961
based on discussions with the

4002
02:21:36,961 --> 02:21:38,597
undersheriff that that that

4003
02:21:38,597 --> 02:21:41,866
and ask for that gradual fuel

4004
02:21:41,866 --> 02:21:42,567
for correct.

4005
02:21:42,567 --> 02:21:45,870
>> So with that, what what is

4006
02:21:45,870 --> 02:21:46,471
there?

4007
02:21:46,471 --> 02:21:48,471
>> Bottom line percent

4008
02:21:49,508 --> 02:21:50,708
increase in budget.

4009
02:21:50,708 --> 02:21:52,100
>> depends on what you're

4010
02:21:52,100 --> 02:21:54,100
looking at. Against 10.9 8%

4011
02:21:55,580 --> 02:21:57,980
against what we adopted. 6.6,

4012
02:22:02,154 --> 02:22:04,554
6% against. The bet budget

4013
02:22:06,900 --> 02:22:07,192
book. 6.1 8% against

4014
02:22:07,192 --> 02:22:08,326
presentation that let's go

4015
02:22:08,326 --> 02:22:09,494
back to one thing. It when we

4016
02:22:09,494 --> 02:22:10,228
talked about the amended

4017
02:22:10,228 --> 02:22:13,228
budget for 2025. This the pink

4018
02:22:13,732 --> 02:22:15,732
piece of it.

4019
02:22:16,768 --> 02:22:17,702
>> The pink is is so you'll

4020
02:22:17,702 --> 02:22:19,700
see here less other revenue

4021
02:22:19,700 --> 02:22:19,705
debt service amendment. And

4022
02:22:19,705 --> 02:22:22,105
prior year we incumbents.

4023
02:22:23,275 --> 02:22:24,610
That's not something that we.

4024
02:22:24,610 --> 02:22:25,412
We understand in terms of the

4025
02:22:25,412 --> 02:22:27,812
budget office when we're

4026
02:22:28,446 --> 02:22:29,648
putting together, we go off of

4027
02:22:29,648 --> 02:22:30,482
atg. That's us telling you,

4028
02:22:30,482 --> 02:22:31,182
this is what how we got our

4029
02:22:31,182 --> 02:22:32,818
numbers. And then this is the

4030
02:22:32,818 --> 02:22:34,786
sheriff. What the sheriff

4031
02:22:34,786 --> 02:22:36,521
resented at the meeting. So

4032
02:22:36,521 --> 02:22:38,723
they they have their own

4033
02:22:38,723 --> 02:22:40,859
finance department. So we go

4034
02:22:40,859 --> 02:22:45,590
off of atg, which is our. Our

4035
02:22:45,397 --> 02:22:46,665
record of.

4036
02:22:46,665 --> 02:22:47,366
>> Right. But with my my point

4037
02:22:47,366 --> 02:22:49,834
is, is that when you look the

4038
02:22:49,834 --> 02:22:51,834
adopted budget. For 2025,

4039
02:22:54,473 --> 02:22:57,473
2026. And you take that. In

4040
02:22:57,876 --> 02:23:00,276
totality to 29 mil. From

4041
02:23:00,412 --> 02:23:04,120
OCTOBER one of last year until

4042
02:23:04,349 --> 02:23:04,984
today. How many amendments and

4043
02:23:04,984 --> 02:23:06,885
was the cost of those

4044
02:23:06,885 --> 02:23:08,220
amendments that we put on to

4045
02:23:08,220 --> 02:23:08,954
that budget? Because my issue

4046
02:23:08,954 --> 02:23:11,954
is the question to development

4047
02:23:15,293 --> 02:23:15,994
budget. On new budget on the

4048
02:23:15,994 --> 02:23:17,129
amended budget verse is being

4049
02:23:17,129 --> 02:23:17,796
amended. Excuse me developing

4050
02:23:17,796 --> 02:23:20,196
a budget. Hopefully you're

4051
02:23:20,632 --> 02:23:23,632
adopted budget. In the budget

4052
02:23:23,835 --> 02:23:26,805
could include grants that are

4053
02:23:26,805 --> 02:23:27,806
not focused on personnel

4054
02:23:27,806 --> 02:23:30,409
whatever. So my problem trying

4055
02:23:30,409 --> 02:23:32,878
to understand this, is it.

4056
02:23:32,878 --> 02:23:33,579
You're adding a lot of money

4057
02:23:33,579 --> 02:23:37,179
in between OCTOBER to JULY of

4058
02:23:38,250 --> 02:23:40,385
this year. What how much money

4059
02:23:40,385 --> 02:23:43,321
is that? That is. That is

4060
02:23:43,321 --> 02:23:44,857
grants.

4061
02:23:44,857 --> 02:23:48,457
>> And it grants I would have

4062
02:23:49,227 --> 02:23:50,162
to identified. But

4063
02:23:50,162 --> 02:23:50,863
>> the from the adopted to the

4064
02:23:50,863 --> 02:23:53,863
amended its it ranges from 4

4065
02:23:54,667 --> 02:23:56,902
to 4 and a half percent, which

4066
02:23:56,902 --> 02:23:58,503
you can see those numbers

4067
02:23:58,503 --> 02:23:59,710
change from the adopted to the

4068
02:23:59,710 --> 02:23:59,872
amended and we in law

4069
02:23:59,872 --> 02:24:01,872
enforcement and corrections.

4070
02:24:02,841 --> 02:24:03,408
Okay. So.

4071
02:24:03,408 --> 02:24:05,808
>> still stand by. My

4072
02:24:09,248 --> 02:24:11,517
suggestion starts. I think

4073
02:24:11,517 --> 02:24:14,186
people who are over 5% should

4074
02:24:14,186 --> 02:24:17,186
sharpen your pencil. And come

4075
02:24:17,790 --> 02:24:18,457
in at 5% over the budget.

4076
02:24:18,457 --> 02:24:22,570
We're in new port where the

4077
02:24:22,594 --> 02:24:26,365
right now. If you take a look

4078
02:24:26,365 --> 02:24:29,965
at it across state. People are

4079
02:24:31,603 --> 02:24:32,237
reducing their budgets.

4080
02:24:32,237 --> 02:24:32,838
They're sharpening their

4081
02:24:32,838 --> 02:24:34,640
pencils work we cannot

4082
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:35,240
continue to do that. If you

4083
02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:38,840
can do it from the bocc

4084
02:24:40,212 --> 02:24:40,879
standpoint. And you get to 4%.

4085
02:24:40,879 --> 02:24:42,115
I think everybody should be

4086
02:24:42,115 --> 02:24:46,180
able to get at least a 5%. So

4087
02:24:46,180 --> 02:24:48,418
MR. Commissioner Burrows, are

4088
02:24:51,790 --> 02:24:53,790
you saying? 5% from?

4089
02:24:54,827 --> 02:24:57,227
>> The 25 26 adopted. Are you

4090
02:24:59,765 --> 02:25:02,165
saying 5% from the amended?

4091
02:25:02,201 --> 02:25:05,801
>> Say that is a proposed. His

4092
02:25:07,606 --> 02:25:10,600
proposed budget 33 to to 4.

4093
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:15,110
>> Which is 6.1 8%. Adjusted.

4094
02:25:15,147 --> 02:25:17,483
But it's 10.9% above the

4095
02:25:17,483 --> 02:25:20,119
adopted. So when you are

4096
02:25:20,119 --> 02:25:23,119
asking for a 5% only increase.

4097
02:25:24,723 --> 02:25:25,424
Increase off of which one. The

4098
02:25:25,424 --> 02:25:28,127
adopted you have to. You have

4099
02:25:28,127 --> 02:25:28,861
to look at 5% proposed.

4100
02:25:28,861 --> 02:25:31,861
>> Maybe mention your point. I

4101
02:25:34,300 --> 02:25:35,000
think you are. If you've got.

4102
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:35,701
$100 and you say I don't want

4103
02:25:35,701 --> 02:25:38,537
to be more than 5% come back

4104
02:25:38,537 --> 02:25:40,473
at $105. We've got 2 different

4105
02:25:40,473 --> 02:25:41,106
$100. We've got 100 that we

4106
02:25:41,106 --> 02:25:43,506
approved. But in 102 was

4107
02:25:45,430 --> 02:25:48,430
spent. The adjusted. So are

4108
02:25:48,381 --> 02:25:51,785
you looking for a maximum of

4109
02:25:51,785 --> 02:25:52,652
5% above the 102. Are you

4110
02:25:52,652 --> 02:25:53,319
looking at a maximum of 5%

4111
02:25:53,319 --> 02:25:56,319
above the 100? Based on my

4112
02:25:57,690 --> 02:25:58,357
simple. No, I think what what

4113
02:25:58,357 --> 02:26:01,357
I'm saying is that whatever

4114
02:26:04,831 --> 02:26:07,831
your proposed budget is today.

4115
02:26:07,867 --> 02:26:08,167
Get a 5%. If I'm 75, what if I

4116
02:26:08,167 --> 02:26:08,834
MAY?

4117
02:26:08,834 --> 02:26:10,102
>> Most of the percentages

4118
02:26:10,102 --> 02:26:12,138
that he's referencing are

4119
02:26:12,138 --> 02:26:12,838
based off of the adjusted. So

4120
02:26:12,838 --> 02:26:14,640
it's my understanding that he

4121
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:15,575
might be referring to the

4122
02:26:15,575 --> 02:26:16,709
adjusted because what he's

4123
02:26:16,709 --> 02:26:18,709
referencing the bocc 4%.

4124
02:26:19,111 --> 02:26:20,746
That's that's off of amended

4125
02:26:20,746 --> 02:26:22,746
not are adopted.

4126
02:26:23,682 --> 02:26:26,820
>> our amended. 4% higher than

4127
02:26:27,253 --> 02:26:30,456
or about. I would have to

4128
02:26:30,456 --> 02:26:31,157
check on that percentage.

4129
02:26:31,157 --> 02:26:32,825
>> So your recommended comes

4130
02:26:32,825 --> 02:26:33,459
down. 1.18%.

4131
02:26:33,459 --> 02:26:35,859
>> That's what I'm saying

4132
02:26:35,861 --> 02:26:38,861
right now. Yes. That's where

4133
02:26:39,132 --> 02:26:43,332
we are. All my hand corner of

4134
02:26:44,136 --> 02:26:48,307
the bank. I think an 8 I can't

4135
02:26:48,307 --> 02:26:49,410
ask him. I can't asked.

4136
02:26:49,410 --> 02:26:52,545
Somebody to Co go from the

4137
02:26:52,545 --> 02:26:53,512
adopted budget of 25 2026. I

4138
02:26:53,512 --> 02:26:57,116
can only go from what he's put

4139
02:26:57,116 --> 02:27:00,716
in today. Well, that only but

4140
02:27:01,540 --> 02:27:01,889
you just said few moments ago

4141
02:27:01,889 --> 02:27:03,989
that some of that could be

4142
02:27:03,989 --> 02:27:05,891
grants and so forth that are

4143
02:27:05,891 --> 02:27:06,826
one time only. He's and I

4144
02:27:06,826 --> 02:27:09,620
don't. And I don't know how

4145
02:27:09,620 --> 02:27:10,290
much that is because I'm going

4146
02:27:10,290 --> 02:27:11,130
figure it up this afternoon.

4147
02:27:11,130 --> 02:27:12,331
But when you figure that up,

4148
02:27:12,331 --> 02:27:13,199
then what are you going to be

4149
02:27:13,199 --> 02:27:13,900
asking And I made me tell you

4150
02:27:13,900 --> 02:27:16,402
that it will be all for that

4151
02:27:16,402 --> 02:27:18,402
number.

4152
02:27:19,710 --> 02:27:21,273
>> Well, if if we're asking.

4153
02:27:21,273 --> 02:27:21,974
For him to come back with a

4154
02:27:21,974 --> 02:27:24,100
different number. It be nice.

4155
02:27:24,100 --> 02:27:26,212
Be new, which number to be

4156
02:27:26,212 --> 02:27:27,213
shooting for so much It would

4157
02:27:27,213 --> 02:27:28,381
be a service to 2, but

4158
02:27:28,381 --> 02:27:30,781
actually telling what we're

4159
02:27:31,451 --> 02:27:33,851
asking for. Understand that.

4160
02:27:35,555 --> 02:27:36,222
But here's what so I agree

4161
02:27:36,222 --> 02:27:38,791
with your your comment. My

4162
02:27:38,791 --> 02:27:39,425
point I don't know what that

4163
02:27:39,425 --> 02:27:40,593
percentage is or what the

4164
02:27:40,593 --> 02:27:41,194
dollar amount is that

4165
02:27:41,194 --> 02:27:41,794
associated with.

4166
02:27:41,794 --> 02:27:44,194
>> Grants that are just

4167
02:27:46,432 --> 02:27:47,166
one-time grants. Because why

4168
02:27:47,166 --> 02:27:48,201
should I build a budget off of

4169
02:27:48,201 --> 02:27:51,201
a one-time grant? That's my

4170
02:27:51,904 --> 02:27:55,504
problem. If I-5 got x amount

4171
02:27:56,910 --> 02:27:58,477
of dollars. Outside of the

4172
02:27:58,477 --> 02:28:01,477
grant and that's what should

4173
02:28:02,782 --> 02:28:03,482
build be. Building my budget

4174
02:28:03,482 --> 02:28:05,885
Not adding grants to it. Just

4175
02:28:05,885 --> 02:28:06,987
so it looks good on number.

4176
02:28:06,987 --> 02:28:08,689
Well, especially for the one

4177
02:28:08,689 --> 02:28:10,824
times if you've got a

4178
02:28:10,824 --> 02:28:11,825
recurring one that comes every

4179
02:28:11,825 --> 02:28:12,525
year in JANUARY and he can't

4180
02:28:12,525 --> 02:28:14,694
budget for, but he knows it's

4181
02:28:14,694 --> 02:28:16,562
coming every year in JANUARY.

4182
02:28:16,562 --> 02:28:17,196
>> That's a legitimate number.

4183
02:28:17,196 --> 02:28:17,864
Absolutely. If there's a

4184
02:28:17,864 --> 02:28:19,864
one-time, here's 200 grand

4185
02:28:21,734 --> 02:28:24,637
for. Fleet tires. That's a one

4186
02:28:24,637 --> 02:28:26,305
and done. Then you can I I'm

4187
02:28:26,305 --> 02:28:28,675
agreeing with what you're

4188
02:28:28,675 --> 02:28:29,409
saying. That doesn't become a

4189
02:28:29,409 --> 02:28:32,409
something you budgeted for. It

4190
02:28:34,547 --> 02:28:35,514
say. One over. If these

4191
02:28:35,514 --> 02:28:38,514
numbers are correct and we

4192
02:28:38,618 --> 02:28:41,618
need one that 1.18% of their

4193
02:28:41,822 --> 02:28:45,422
we ask in in Re used $292,739.

4194
02:28:48,327 --> 02:28:49,620
>> In 68.0, $0.32. If numbers

4195
02:28:49,620 --> 02:28:50,997
correct. Fact numbers. Critics

4196
02:28:50,997 --> 02:28:51,731
what you're looking Free

4197
02:28:51,731 --> 02:28:53,731
night, little under 400,000.

4198
02:28:58,400 --> 02:28:58,738
Yeah. Because here's here's

4199
02:28:58,738 --> 02:29:00,973
the thing. Commissioner summer

4200
02:29:00,973 --> 02:29:04,244
brings up a good point. You've

4201
02:29:04,244 --> 02:29:07,514
got it. You know, the dot, the

4202
02:29:07,514 --> 02:29:09,416
budget. Next, you get all

4203
02:29:09,416 --> 02:29:10,783
these particular grant or

4204
02:29:10,783 --> 02:29:11,484
whatever, whatever, whatever,

4205
02:29:11,484 --> 02:29:13,220
amendments, to the sheriff's

4206
02:29:13,220 --> 02:29:16,220
budget during the course of

4207
02:29:16,589 --> 02:29:17,258
that year, various things.

4208
02:29:17,258 --> 02:29:20,858
Some of could be a one-time

4209
02:29:20,894 --> 02:29:21,728
grant. Some could be a

4210
02:29:21,728 --> 02:29:22,429
reoccurring grant. The

4211
02:29:22,429 --> 02:29:24,829
reoccurring grants should be

4212
02:29:25,532 --> 02:29:27,932
applied. 2, the amended, but

4213
02:29:28,869 --> 02:29:30,303
due to the adopted budget, the

4214
02:29:30,303 --> 02:29:30,937
one-time grants should not.

4215
02:29:30,937 --> 02:29:33,937
That's that's what I was

4216
02:29:34,607 --> 02:29:35,308
trying to get right. I don't

4217
02:29:35,308 --> 02:29:36,100
have that number. And that's

4218
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:40,210
to that's the key to this is

4219
02:29:40,313 --> 02:29:41,548
that. I can ask and did. I can

4220
02:29:41,548 --> 02:29:44,384
just make this blank statement

4221
02:29:44,384 --> 02:29:45,185
I should come down to 5%

4222
02:29:45,185 --> 02:29:45,818
whatever your your proposed

4223
02:29:45,818 --> 02:29:48,218
budget is after Monday's

4224
02:29:48,955 --> 02:29:50,955
grants. Minus non-recurring

4225
02:29:52,692 --> 02:29:53,393
grants. You can do that. But

4226
02:29:53,393 --> 02:29:56,993
we still have to understand a

4227
02:29:58,264 --> 02:30:00,267
number. And that was what

4228
02:30:00,267 --> 02:30:01,802
post. Unfortunately. Thank

4229
02:30:01,802 --> 02:30:04,537
you. Through this last night,

4230
02:30:04,537 --> 02:30:06,937
MR. CHAIRMAN. It's occurring

4231
02:30:07,473 --> 02:30:10,210
to me that. We have things in

4232
02:30:10,210 --> 02:30:11,444
here that or not that are

4233
02:30:11,444 --> 02:30:15,440
one-time deals. I think I MAY

4234
02:30:15,649 --> 02:30:16,849
be wrong. But I think there's

4235
02:30:16,849 --> 02:30:17,484
its when you look through the

4236
02:30:17,484 --> 02:30:20,484
amendments over a year, I

4237
02:30:22,989 --> 02:30:23,690
think you're going to find.

4238
02:30:23,690 --> 02:30:24,858
And all I'm looking to do is

4239
02:30:24,858 --> 02:30:27,728
making sure that we have a

4240
02:30:27,728 --> 02:30:30,128
valid number. What's really

4241
02:30:30,898 --> 02:30:33,333
required to do the job?

4242
02:30:33,333 --> 02:30:34,000
Shortchange not get more. But

4243
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:37,600
what is required to do the

4244
02:30:37,938 --> 02:30:38,638
job. And then outside the

4245
02:30:38,638 --> 02:30:41,638
one-time grants and stuff of

4246
02:30:43,543 --> 02:30:44,277
that sort. That doesn't, you

4247
02:30:44,277 --> 02:30:47,180
know, to me, you and you know,

4248
02:30:47,180 --> 02:30:50,780
on the other. Problem I had

4249
02:30:52,118 --> 02:30:55,718
was the fact of trying to.

4250
02:30:59,859 --> 02:31:02,362
Match the firemen. Their race.

4251
02:31:02,362 --> 02:31:06,333
I think that we have the union

4252
02:31:06,333 --> 02:31:07,330
we deal with on the far side,

4253
02:31:07,330 --> 02:31:08,535
I don't have a union to deal

4254
02:31:08,535 --> 02:31:12,135
with on the bocc side. We've

4255
02:31:12,939 --> 02:31:15,675
agreed it is 2% plus e p a

4256
02:31:15,675 --> 02:31:18,675
right, mark. Correct on that.

4257
02:31:22,382 --> 02:31:23,160
So I think 2%, merit. What and

4258
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:23,583
whatever the cpi. I think

4259
02:31:23,583 --> 02:31:26,583
those are should be a

4260
02:31:35,663 --> 02:31:38,663
baseline. My my opinion only.

4261
02:31:44,137 --> 02:31:44,939
MISS Jessica.

4262
02:31:44,939 --> 02:31:47,939
>> We updated number on the

4263
02:31:49,475 --> 02:31:50,100
impact fees to date.

4264
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:50,844
Collections.

4265
02:31:50,844 --> 02:31:53,844
>> So today we have collected

4266
02:31:54,114 --> 02:31:56,650
for impact fees. Sit spore

4267
02:31:56,650 --> 02:31:59,650
that have been. Applied for

4268
02:31:59,820 --> 02:32:02,389
since MAY 15th. We did the

4269
02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:03,560
application been approved. So

4270
02:32:03,560 --> 02:32:06,560
all 4 of those were single

4271
02:32:07,494 --> 02:32:08,428
family residence. 3 of them

4272
02:32:08,428 --> 02:32:09,163
were under 1500 square foot.

4273
02:32:09,163 --> 02:32:12,163
One was over 1500 square foot.

4274
02:32:12,833 --> 02:32:13,500
So if you want to run down the

4275
02:32:13,500 --> 02:32:15,435
list of accounts and their

4276
02:32:15,435 --> 02:32:17,435
balances for you.

4277
02:32:20,206 --> 02:32:23,176
>> Yes, just the total. You

4278
02:32:23,176 --> 02:32:23,844
have have a total

4279
02:32:23,844 --> 02:32:24,578
transportation is and isn't

4280
02:32:24,578 --> 02:32:25,245
16th. I do not have a total of

4281
02:32:25,245 --> 02:32:27,514
all of the impact fees have

4282
02:32:27,514 --> 02:32:29,514
per account. Okay.

4283
02:32:30,840 --> 02:32:32,840
>> But transportation is

4284
02:32:33,219 --> 02:32:35,219
16,000 Library, $670.

4285
02:32:35,589 --> 02:32:37,589
Corrections is $800. Law

4286
02:32:38,124 --> 02:32:40,524
enforcement is 6,000. Fire and

4287
02:32:41,128 --> 02:32:43,528
ems is 2800. Public schools

4288
02:32:45,901 --> 02:32:47,635
are 8500. Parks and rec. Our

4289
02:32:47,635 --> 02:32:49,635
2200 public facilities are

4290
02:32:51,380 --> 02:32:51,772
5200 action. Do have a total

4291
02:32:51,772 --> 02:32:54,172
total with administrative fees

4292
02:33:03,384 --> 02:33:05,384
as $52,000.

4293
02:33:08,155 --> 02:33:08,889
>> Just for quick. Add on.

4294
02:33:08,889 --> 02:33:11,458
Leaving the grants part out of

4295
02:33:11,458 --> 02:33:14,458
If you're asking. For that

4296
02:33:14,862 --> 02:33:17,197
reduction down to 5%. Did

4297
02:33:17,197 --> 02:33:20,797
cause you said to be nearly

4298
02:33:20,834 --> 02:33:22,834
400 grand? It's 3. 68 3.47.

4299
02:33:23,703 --> 02:33:26,240
Leaving out the. What's real

4300
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:28,675
and what's member part of it,

4301
02:33:28,675 --> 02:33:32,875
if you did it straight off of.

4302
02:33:33,146 --> 02:33:33,814
The adjusted. To the ask

4303
02:33:33,814 --> 02:33:36,214
you're asking for abduction

4304
02:33:42,856 --> 02:33:45,256
over there. 368,000. Open it.

4305
02:33:46,930 --> 02:33:46,794
And that's just.

4306
02:33:46,794 --> 02:33:49,764
>> really as it goes back to

4307
02:33:49,764 --> 02:33:50,640
the clerk of court, too. He's

4308
02:33:50,640 --> 02:33:52,640
6.1.

4309
02:33:52,734 --> 02:33:53,468
>> Yeah. And that number. We

4310
02:33:53,468 --> 02:33:57,680
flipped that it would take for

4311
02:34:07,414 --> 02:34:08,416
the second. Some of dresses.

4312
02:34:08,416 --> 02:34:10,918
Clerk, 6 point want to think

4313
02:34:10,918 --> 02:34:12,285
figure to those Tate.

4314
02:34:12,285 --> 02:34:15,285
>> 1.1% off of his was it

4315
02:34:17,925 --> 02:34:20,925
comes to him. Purcell, Well,

4316
02:34:22,796 --> 02:34:23,464
yeah, to make it 5% whatever.

4317
02:34:23,464 --> 02:34:27,640
Gotten out of what what? It

4318
02:34:38,178 --> 02:34:38,413
would be ones.

4319
02:34:38,413 --> 02:34:38,979
Are going

4320
02:34:38,979 --> 02:34:40,979
transfer the Curtis?

4321
02:35:03,971 --> 02:35:04,739
3 Million? 40 ish 1000?

4322
02:35:04,739 --> 02:35:06,739
>> 3, 0, 9, 4, $37,560 is what

4323
02:35:07,307 --> 02:35:09,707
ubs commander Days over

4324
02:35:12,130 --> 02:35:14,130
3 Billion 3 million. 94.

4325
02:35:14,516 --> 02:35:15,216
Taking 2, 3, 1, 89, one 97,

4326
02:35:15,216 --> 02:35:17,552
which is a reduction 37,005,

4327
02:35:17,552 --> 02:35:18,719
6.

4328
02:35:18,719 --> 02:35:21,422
>> And it you know, that's you

4329
02:35:21,422 --> 02:35:22,123
know, that's not a lot of

4330
02:35:22,123 --> 02:35:25,592
money. I'm not if you of the

4331
02:35:25,592 --> 02:35:28,290
money is just looking fight.

4332
02:35:28,290 --> 02:35:30,898
5% above what you your budget.

4333
02:35:30,898 --> 02:35:32,898
5% cut.

4334
02:35:37,772 --> 02:35:38,406
That's just me. Guys debate

4335
02:35:38,406 --> 02:35:40,775
that if you want. I don't

4336
02:35:40,775 --> 02:35:44,375
care. But that's my. That's my

4337
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:47,748
thing.

4338
02:35:47,748 --> 02:35:49,830
>> It's hard to put an

4339
02:35:49,830 --> 02:35:49,818
arbitrary number on it. But

4340
02:35:49,818 --> 02:35:52,218
obviously the anything that

4341
02:35:56,290 --> 02:35:57,158
can be done is helpful. If as

4342
02:35:57,158 --> 02:35:58,693
a total board, which is

4343
02:35:58,693 --> 02:35:59,360
inclusive of the fire

4344
02:35:59,360 --> 02:36:01,760
department. We stated 4%. I

4345
02:36:02,162 --> 02:36:02,864
don't think it's a huge ask.

4346
02:36:02,864 --> 02:36:06,167
>> To ask anyone else to top.

4347
02:36:06,167 --> 02:36:06,700
There's at 5. So I don't

4348
02:36:06,700 --> 02:36:08,700
disagree with you.

4349
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:12,640
Commissioner. I MAY be a

4350
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:14,640
little simple sometimes

4351
02:36:17,378 --> 02:36:18,312
compared to some of you.

4352
02:36:18,312 --> 02:36:19,547
>> Mathematicians and things.

4353
02:36:19,547 --> 02:36:20,181
I look at it kind of like

4354
02:36:20,181 --> 02:36:20,881
this. If you're 2 income

4355
02:36:20,881 --> 02:36:24,481
family and they were to live

4356
02:36:25,587 --> 02:36:26,287
from income. I mean, you know,

4357
02:36:26,287 --> 02:36:29,190
taking a few less trips, the

4358
02:36:29,190 --> 02:36:32,790
town are. Maybe not going out

4359
02:36:33,610 --> 02:36:34,929
to be tough. Just cutting back

4360
02:36:34,929 --> 02:36:35,630
a little we can just find that

4361
02:36:35,630 --> 02:36:36,964
somewhere. Little bit here a

4362
02:36:36,964 --> 02:36:39,670
little bit. There MAY be. Next

4363
02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:42,403
year we don't fall off the

4364
02:36:42,403 --> 02:36:45,403
cliff. Everybody help a little

4365
02:36:56,985 --> 02:36:58,985
bit. I guess.

4366
02:36:59,453 --> 02:37:00,921
>> If they can, could down 5%.

4367
02:37:00,921 --> 02:37:04,521
That would be that would be

4368
02:37:07,995 --> 02:37:08,696
nice. Also talk about people

4369
02:37:08,696 --> 02:37:11,696
that were bulletproof vest to

4370
02:37:13,701 --> 02:37:14,335
work. You know, I don't want

4371
02:37:14,335 --> 02:37:17,935
to I don't want to that's

4372
02:37:19,174 --> 02:37:22,511
going on I don't want to.

4373
02:37:22,511 --> 02:37:26,111
Product cut. A little bit of

4374
02:37:27,615 --> 02:37:28,316
money off decreases. They're

4375
02:37:28,316 --> 02:37:29,585
effective mission protecting

4376
02:37:29,585 --> 02:37:32,585
and serving the public. You

4377
02:37:35,900 --> 02:37:35,690
know, If there's Fluff in

4378
02:37:35,690 --> 02:37:38,690
area, I believe that we

4379
02:37:39,861 --> 02:37:43,461
should. You know, push to do

4380
02:37:43,564 --> 02:37:44,231
the best to win of that out.

4381
02:37:44,231 --> 02:37:46,200
It's so close that I don't

4382
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:49,200
know it's worth. Than the

4383
02:37:53,108 --> 02:37:53,775
optics. This is not she's real

4384
02:37:53,775 --> 02:37:54,643
dollars. No, no, no. Israel

4385
02:37:54,643 --> 02:37:57,778
dollars. I know it's but I

4386
02:37:57,778 --> 02:37:59,140
just this is just my thought.

4387
02:37:59,140 --> 02:37:59,681
If there's if there's fluff,

4388
02:37:59,681 --> 02:38:01,716
yeah, we should. Who should

4389
02:38:01,716 --> 02:38:02,450
cut it out. I don't want to. I

4390
02:38:02,450 --> 02:38:06,500
don't want think it makes them

4391
02:38:07,188 --> 02:38:08,623
less effective. Doing her job.

4392
02:38:08,623 --> 02:38:11,230
Protection, serve the public

4393
02:38:17,320 --> 02:38:17,665
That's where I'm at

4394
02:38:17,665 --> 02:38:20,635
>> We do have some you're

4395
02:38:20,635 --> 02:38:21,269
going to say or I agree. It's

4396
02:38:21,269 --> 02:38:24,500
a high risk and it's well

4397
02:38:24,500 --> 02:38:26,809
needed. I got relatives in

4398
02:38:26,809 --> 02:38:28,811
that space, too. Close I

4399
02:38:28,811 --> 02:38:30,811
appreciate that. Appreciate

4400
02:38:31,460 --> 02:38:33,446
everybody. But maybe they're

4401
02:38:34,490 --> 02:38:34,682
somewhere else without getting

4402
02:38:34,682 --> 02:38:37,986
rid of writ of the bullet

4403
02:38:37,986 --> 02:38:38,754
proof vest, so to speak that

4404
02:38:38,754 --> 02:38:39,387
there's something they can

4405
02:38:39,387 --> 02:38:40,355
find. We'd appreciate it.

4406
02:38:40,355 --> 02:38:41,550
That's all we're saying

4407
02:38:41,550 --> 02:38:44,550
everybody. Try to help. We've

4408
02:38:44,626 --> 02:38:45,326
got a problem. We're not in

4409
02:38:45,326 --> 02:38:47,262
control of that. That's what

4410
02:38:47,262 --> 02:38:48,463
they're doing in for

4411
02:38:48,463 --> 02:38:49,664
government decision. Now the

4412
02:38:49,664 --> 02:38:52,234
people are going to decide it

4413
02:38:52,234 --> 02:38:52,901
sounds real good to the

4414
02:38:52,901 --> 02:38:53,501
taxpayer know fact we don't

4415
02:38:53,501 --> 02:38:55,904
have to keep paying for

4416
02:38:55,904 --> 02:38:56,605
houses. You've heard it. So we

4417
02:38:56,605 --> 02:38:59,274
got to deal with that. We've

4418
02:38:59,274 --> 02:39:02,274
got to prepare little bit.

4419
02:39:02,944 --> 02:39:03,645
>> not asking for abduction.

4420
02:39:03,645 --> 02:39:06,881
Still saying you can go up 5%

4421
02:39:06,881 --> 02:39:09,881
on your budget. That's not.

4422
02:39:10,752 --> 02:39:11,386
That's not saying. Take away

4423
02:39:11,386 --> 02:39:15,586
of a vest or don't give a

4424
02:39:17,725 --> 02:39:18,560
raise. That's that's not. What

4425
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:20,294
Commissioner Burrows I'm

4426
02:39:20,294 --> 02:39:21,596
trying to put words in your

4427
02:39:21,596 --> 02:39:25,196
mouth, but if you can hold

4428
02:39:26,670 --> 02:39:27,235
your increase to 5%. Yeah. You

4429
02:39:27,235 --> 02:39:28,700
know, if my daughter start

4430
02:39:28,700 --> 02:39:28,703
spending more on a credit card

4431
02:39:28,703 --> 02:39:29,404
at Gainesville, then she

4432
02:39:29,404 --> 02:39:33,400
should and will say you need

4433
02:39:33,709 --> 02:39:34,443
to. Whether it's not getting

4434
02:39:34,443 --> 02:39:35,744
Starbucks coffee. I don't know

4435
02:39:35,744 --> 02:39:38,144
sharing Starbucks coffee, but

4436
02:39:39,282 --> 02:39:40,820
but that example years if. You

4437
02:39:40,820 --> 02:39:40,817
can spend a little bit more

4438
02:39:40,817 --> 02:39:43,785
because everything does cost a

4439
02:39:43,785 --> 02:39:44,887
little bit more than it did

4440
02:39:44,887 --> 02:39:45,587
last year. There's not a

4441
02:39:45,587 --> 02:39:47,987
dollar sandwich of McDonald's

4442
02:39:48,156 --> 02:39:49,257
anymore. We know that. But

4443
02:39:49,257 --> 02:39:52,257
asking somebody to to take

4444
02:39:52,894 --> 02:39:53,428
their growth and capped at 5%.

4445
02:39:53,428 --> 02:39:56,297
I don't think is an

4446
02:39:56,297 --> 02:39:58,297
unreasonable ask.

4447
02:39:58,600 --> 02:40:00,569
>> And agree with that. But if

4448
02:40:00,569 --> 02:40:02,969
their Starbucks coffee, we

4449
02:40:03,572 --> 02:40:04,172
just use that as a. It's a

4450
02:40:04,172 --> 02:40:05,407
place, example, in your

4451
02:40:05,407 --> 02:40:09,700
budget. It needs to come out.

4452
02:40:12,814 --> 02:40:14,820
Only agree with that.

4453
02:40:14,820 --> 02:40:14,750
>> Well, it's a total the, for

4454
02:40:14,750 --> 02:40:16,985
instance, on our side, the

4455
02:40:16,985 --> 02:40:17,652
fire department did go up. But

4456
02:40:17,652 --> 02:40:20,823
we came down on some other

4457
02:40:20,823 --> 02:40:22,123
stuff to make up for it.

4458
02:40:22,123 --> 02:40:23,250
Workout, 2 percentage well

4459
02:40:23,250 --> 02:40:25,294
know that there have about 2

4460
02:40:25,294 --> 02:40:27,962
trucks and that's a real notes

4461
02:40:27,962 --> 02:40:29,765
it would be. But for the

4462
02:40:29,765 --> 02:40:32,301
trucks. So your partially But

4463
02:40:32,301 --> 02:40:32,968
overall got feathers and all

4464
02:40:32,968 --> 02:40:35,968
one dollars where that a 4%

4465
02:40:37,506 --> 02:40:38,139
increase. So all doing is

4466
02:40:38,139 --> 02:40:39,775
asking everybody else to

4467
02:40:39,775 --> 02:40:42,175
sharpen their pencils nearly

4468
02:40:42,911 --> 02:40:44,790
to the same level that we did

4469
02:40:44,790 --> 02:40:44,747
if our numbers are right and

4470
02:40:44,747 --> 02:40:46,182
all I can do stresses book

4471
02:40:46,182 --> 02:40:49,782
that handed to me. So numbers

4472
02:40:50,686 --> 02:40:52,487
are correct. Then that's all

4473
02:40:52,487 --> 02:40:53,221
we're asking. If you can't do

4474
02:40:53,221 --> 02:40:53,922
it, you can't do it. Come here

4475
02:40:53,922 --> 02:40:56,191
and say, look, I can't do it.

4476
02:40:56,191 --> 02:40:56,892
This is why then played the

4477
02:40:56,892 --> 02:41:00,280
case at the time. But if you

4478
02:41:00,280 --> 02:41:01,329
can. Please do for the sake of

4479
02:41:01,329 --> 02:41:04,198
the public, for the sake of

4480
02:41:04,198 --> 02:41:05,433
the doe's crowd, we can. I

4481
02:41:05,433 --> 02:41:08,433
mean, again, like I said 3

4482
02:41:08,904 --> 02:41:09,638
more months ago, we are a

4483
02:41:09,638 --> 02:41:11,806
bunch Republicans were not big

4484
02:41:11,806 --> 02:41:14,206
government people. We're not

4485
02:41:15,344 --> 02:41:17,790
big spending people. Our job

4486
02:41:17,790 --> 02:41:17,780
is to give as much service as

4487
02:41:17,780 --> 02:41:20,780
possible with his little cost

4488
02:41:24,519 --> 02:41:25,186
as possible. Well, is this

4489
02:41:25,186 --> 02:41:28,156
does this I know for a fact

4490
02:41:28,156 --> 02:41:28,824
they're working on it.

4491
02:41:28,824 --> 02:41:31,393
>> this time last year, we

4492
02:41:31,393 --> 02:41:33,528
said that, you know, help us

4493
02:41:33,528 --> 02:41:34,162
out and that, you know, and

4494
02:41:34,162 --> 02:41:34,831
that was That was on

4495
02:41:34,831 --> 02:41:35,497
Wednesday. And they came by

4496
02:41:35,497 --> 02:41:39,970
Friday morning and we had a

4497
02:41:39,568 --> 02:41:42,568
compromise. So if you nothing

4498
02:41:42,604 --> 02:41:43,572
came back and say, again as

4499
02:41:43,572 --> 02:41:45,972
this money for bulletproof

4500
02:41:46,740 --> 02:41:46,808
vests and we're going say, of

4501
02:41:46,808 --> 02:41:47,443
wager to say that if they come

4502
02:41:47,443 --> 02:41:50,345
back and say, hey, we'll

4503
02:41:50,345 --> 02:41:51,460
tighten belts and we'll make

4504
02:41:51,460 --> 02:41:54,460
this work them with puppets.

4505
02:41:56,386 --> 02:41:57,587
Okay to that. So but I'm

4506
02:41:57,587 --> 02:41:58,253
confident and all the county

4507
02:41:58,253 --> 02:41:59,188
departments constitutional

4508
02:41:59,188 --> 02:42:01,588
employees know that everybody

4509
02:42:03,859 --> 02:42:05,126
the same. Page that we are to

4510
02:42:05,126 --> 02:42:08,664
do is good to service is

4511
02:42:08,664 --> 02:42:09,732
possible for the least amount

4512
02:42:09,732 --> 02:42:10,333
of money. I'm suggesting we

4513
02:42:10,333 --> 02:42:10,900
let them come by Friday

4514
02:42:10,900 --> 02:42:12,902
morning see what the

4515
02:42:12,902 --> 02:42:14,902
temperature is

4516
02:42:15,204 --> 02:42:19,740
>> And I would like to add an

4517
02:42:19,740 --> 02:42:19,774
additional thanks again. To

4518
02:42:19,774 --> 02:42:20,442
those constitutional came in

4519
02:42:20,442 --> 02:42:24,420
at a flat budget from last

4520
02:42:24,613 --> 02:42:25,281
year. We we asked and they

4521
02:42:25,281 --> 02:42:27,681
absolutely performed and I

4522
02:42:28,817 --> 02:42:31,753
can't. We couldn't get down to

4523
02:42:31,753 --> 02:42:32,388
0 wish we could, but we could.

4524
02:42:32,388 --> 02:42:35,758
But 3 of them did. With a

4525
02:42:35,758 --> 02:42:36,425
that.

4526
02:42:36,425 --> 02:42:37,793
>> I think everybody has to

4527
02:42:37,793 --> 02:42:39,128
remind you. So one thing.

4528
02:42:39,128 --> 02:42:42,128
We've heard this over and

4529
02:42:42,664 --> 02:42:45,934
over, that's not our money. I

4530
02:42:45,934 --> 02:42:46,635
don't care who you are. Give

4531
02:42:46,635 --> 02:42:49,350
your constitutional if you're

4532
02:42:49,370 --> 02:42:52,370
if you're. The occ or

4533
02:42:53,842 --> 02:42:54,777
whatever, it's not our money.

4534
02:42:54,777 --> 02:42:55,511
>> And at the end of the day

4535
02:42:55,511 --> 02:42:56,145
we're been put appear in order

4536
02:42:56,145 --> 02:42:59,745
to be the steward to that

4537
02:43:00,249 --> 02:43:01,683
money.

4538
02:43:01,683 --> 02:43:02,418
>> I'm not saying that we need

4539
02:43:02,418 --> 02:43:06,180
to throw take away proof vest.

4540
02:43:07,790 --> 02:43:08,457
Not We have seen in the past.

4541
02:43:08,457 --> 02:43:09,891
There's places where people

4542
02:43:09,891 --> 02:43:12,891
can reduce or budgets without

4543
02:43:16,650 --> 02:43:18,465
hurting themselves. And that

4544
02:43:19,568 --> 02:43:23,720
was we put on her. You come

4545
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:25,720
through. With only 4%.

4546
02:43:27,750 --> 02:43:28,711
Increase. Given the gas, given

4547
02:43:28,711 --> 02:43:29,645
all the other stuff that went

4548
02:43:29,645 --> 02:43:32,645
in into that calculation this

4549
02:43:38,540 --> 02:43:40,556
year. What she got 4% So i

4550
02:43:40,556 --> 02:43:41,256
don't think it's I don't think

4551
02:43:41,256 --> 02:43:41,824
it's out of the realm, covers

4552
02:43:41,824 --> 02:43:43,824
responsibility to ask

4553
02:43:44,960 --> 02:43:47,960
everybody else. To try to

4554
02:43:55,700 --> 02:43:55,738
coming in at 5% over what in

4555
02:43:55,738 --> 02:43:58,274
the flow for anything could

4556
02:43:58,274 --> 02:44:00,674
cut out? Yes, absolutely.

4557
02:44:03,813 --> 02:44:04,513
>> But you cut it out.

4558
02:44:04,513 --> 02:44:05,180
>> But I'm I'm Mike with the

4559
02:44:05,180 --> 02:44:07,116
CHAIRMAN This week and see

4560
02:44:07,116 --> 02:44:07,816
what happens. I think the

4561
02:44:07,816 --> 02:44:08,517
message should, you know, the

4562
02:44:08,517 --> 02:44:09,185
the hurt if they're watching,

4563
02:44:09,185 --> 02:44:11,688
they heard the message. And

4564
02:44:11,688 --> 02:44:13,623
they heard the debate. That

4565
02:44:13,623 --> 02:44:15,391
goes for the judge for the

4566
02:44:15,391 --> 02:44:18,991
clerk of court. And that goes

4567
02:44:19,728 --> 02:44:20,429
for the sheriff. Anybody else.

4568
02:44:20,429 --> 02:44:21,300
So they heard debate so their

4569
02:44:21,300 --> 02:44:24,300
little work on this. He

4570
02:44:25,635 --> 02:44:27,904
wouldn't come up with.

4571
02:44:27,904 --> 02:44:28,638
>> Just for the second part of

4572
02:44:28,638 --> 02:44:30,840
the conversation in terms of

4573
02:44:30,840 --> 02:44:31,541
workers comp and health

4574
02:44:31,541 --> 02:44:32,241
insurance. Is that something

4575
02:44:32,241 --> 02:44:32,908
you want us to go through the

4576
02:44:32,908 --> 02:44:34,908
competitive process coming

4577
02:44:38,130 --> 02:44:40,950
here for? It's it's over next

4578
02:44:40,950 --> 02:44:41,584
years for next year's

4579
02:44:41,584 --> 02:44:42,584
consideration. Answer if

4580
02:44:42,584 --> 02:44:43,319
you've got the time, the can't

4581
02:44:43,319 --> 02:44:46,455
hurt to ask the question. Some

4582
02:44:46,455 --> 02:44:50,655
of it. And make a project is

4583
02:44:52,195 --> 02:44:52,862
today. It gets pretty

4584
02:44:52,862 --> 02:44:54,363
extensive because if you're

4585
02:44:54,363 --> 02:44:55,698
trying to compare apples to

4586
02:44:55,698 --> 02:44:56,933
apples, there's going to be

4587
02:44:56,933 --> 02:44:59,333
different. Insurance plans and

4588
02:45:02,400 --> 02:45:03,390
workers compensation.

4589
02:45:03,390 --> 02:45:03,740
>> Rates so.

4590
02:45:03,740 --> 02:45:05,174
>> And I want is for was that

4591
02:45:05,174 --> 02:45:06,442
can. But, you know, were just

4592
02:45:06,442 --> 02:45:07,910
in for impact fees with Justin

4593
02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:08,645
for a new budget director.

4594
02:45:08,645 --> 02:45:12,470
We've got so many things going

4595
02:45:12,470 --> 02:45:14,830
on right now that.

4596
02:45:14,830 --> 02:45:15,618
>> But pay attention to the

4597
02:45:15,618 --> 02:45:16,252
tax issue to yes, yeah. We

4598
02:45:16,252 --> 02:45:17,820
don't know what's come a

4599
02:45:17,820 --> 02:45:20,190
couple met. It MAY not be the

4600
02:45:20,190 --> 02:45:20,657
opportune time.

4601
02:45:20,657 --> 02:45:22,392
>> tackle that.

4602
02:45:22,392 --> 02:45:26,162
>> let me ask it this way. If

4603
02:45:26,162 --> 02:45:27,196
we're if I go to shop, new

4604
02:45:27,196 --> 02:45:27,864
insurance companies for my

4605
02:45:27,864 --> 02:45:30,600
family, they do the work of

4606
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:31,801
putting together the bid. I

4607
02:45:31,801 --> 02:45:32,502
mean, I realize there's some

4608
02:45:32,502 --> 02:45:34,837
coordination that from my and

4609
02:45:34,837 --> 02:45:35,505
to be on the phone with them.

4610
02:45:35,505 --> 02:45:37,640
But I don't have to compare

4611
02:45:37,640 --> 02:45:41,240
the apples to apples. They did

4612
02:45:42,478 --> 02:45:44,130
us. They bid the as so. The

4613
02:45:44,130 --> 02:45:47,130
other company bids 2 of got

4614
02:45:47,517 --> 02:45:48,751
the best bid. His answer, but

4615
02:45:48,751 --> 02:45:49,451
they don't be. This is like

4616
02:45:49,451 --> 02:45:50,753
the life Insurance Company We

4617
02:45:50,753 --> 02:45:51,487
have now.

4618
02:45:51,487 --> 02:45:54,487
>> My coverage goes down every

4619
02:45:55,858 --> 02:45:56,826
year. The other one MAY not.

4620
02:45:56,826 --> 02:45:57,560
So there's so many things that

4621
02:45:57,560 --> 02:46:01,160
you've got to take it. Lace-up

4622
02:46:01,264 --> 02:46:02,198
would be. 24 hours a day

4623
02:46:02,198 --> 02:46:03,866
trying analyze that with We

4624
02:46:03,866 --> 02:46:06,266
would also be analyzing.

4625
02:46:09,720 --> 02:46:12,720
>> portfolio. So in terms of

4626
02:46:12,308 --> 02:46:15,211
the towers that we would be

4627
02:46:15,211 --> 02:46:16,312
placed into and how how much

4628
02:46:16,312 --> 02:46:16,980
risk we would be associated

4629
02:46:16,980 --> 02:46:20,350
with based on the poll that

4630
02:46:20,350 --> 02:46:21,451
were and so even though they

4631
02:46:21,451 --> 02:46:22,952
provide us that information.

4632
02:46:22,952 --> 02:46:23,653
And still there's a lot of an

4633
02:46:23,653 --> 02:46:25,755
allegation that we would have

4634
02:46:25,755 --> 02:46:28,491
to do on our end to ensure

4635
02:46:28,491 --> 02:46:31,728
that we're in a where with the

4636
02:46:31,728 --> 02:46:32,896
right provider that is not

4637
02:46:32,896 --> 02:46:33,529
going to put us at a large

4638
02:46:33,529 --> 02:46:35,732
risk to then increase our

4639
02:46:35,732 --> 02:46:36,933
premiums over time.

4640
02:46:36,933 --> 02:46:39,469
>> So in other words, the

4641
02:46:39,469 --> 02:46:40,170
juice at worst, the squeeze at

4642
02:46:40,170 --> 02:46:41,338
this point just think we have

4643
02:46:41,338 --> 02:46:41,971
so many things going on right

4644
02:46:41,971 --> 02:46:44,971
now as don't overload the

4645
02:46:46,976 --> 02:46:47,644
wagon. I don't get Elamine.

4646
02:46:47,644 --> 02:46:49,790
And that hopefully help the

4647
02:46:49,790 --> 02:46:49,779
budget process goes goes a lot

4648
02:46:49,779 --> 02:46:52,179
differently. You know, we've

4649
02:46:54,483 --> 02:46:55,584
got. The computer programs is

4650
02:46:55,584 --> 02:46:56,319
not driving. We've got a major

4651
02:46:56,319 --> 02:46:59,919
win over there that, you know,

4652
02:47:00,657 --> 02:47:02,758
we've agreed to go or

4653
02:47:02,758 --> 02:47:03,492
something. And I think we've

4654
02:47:03,492 --> 02:47:06,529
got a lot of things going I do

4655
02:47:06,529 --> 02:47:07,630
have one question. It was our

4656
02:47:07,630 --> 02:47:09,499
life insurance. It goes down.

4657
02:47:09,499 --> 02:47:11,601
Older you get in mind to get

4658
02:47:11,601 --> 02:47:14,601
pretty low. Does that mean

4659
02:47:16,406 --> 02:47:18,406
Commissioner Burrows doesn't

4660
02:47:21,410 --> 02:47:22,345
0. So exposure

4661
02:47:22,345 --> 02:47:25,615
>> it was the guy that, you

4662
02:47:25,615 --> 02:47:28,284
know, Lee said, do know they

4663
02:47:28,284 --> 02:47:29,920
don't care about has been, but

4664
02:47:29,920 --> 02:47:32,920
the cemetery cash. But we've

4665
02:47:35,458 --> 02:47:39,658
been so got talk to him to

4666
02:47:40,631 --> 02:47:42,366
Because think got a site you

4667
02:47:42,366 --> 02:47:43,650
can to up I almost just looked

4668
02:47:43,650 --> 02:47:45,334
at, not cover smile. And so I

4669
02:47:45,334 --> 02:47:46,502
didn't want to aggravate

4670
02:47:46,502 --> 02:47:49,105
storage is asked if I'd ever

4671
02:47:49,105 --> 02:47:49,740
heard anything back. And we're

4672
02:47:49,740 --> 02:47:51,740
talking savings accounts

4673
02:47:52,943 --> 02:47:54,943
versus the Aflac.

4674
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:58,140
>> And we're talking about

4675
02:47:58,140 --> 02:48:00,917
death, a little yes, you're

4676
02:48:00,917 --> 02:48:01,618
still that we're looking

4677
02:48:01,618 --> 02:48:02,585
everyone. Do you going to add

4678
02:48:02,585 --> 02:48:03,286
you a solution this fiscal

4679
02:48:03,286 --> 02:48:06,220
year for another option with

4680
02:48:06,220 --> 02:48:06,656
MetLife?

4681
02:48:06,656 --> 02:48:09,560
>> Which is just another

4682
02:48:10,527 --> 02:48:11,227
supplemental. Yes. We have

4683
02:48:11,227 --> 02:48:11,928
done some research that we

4684
02:48:11,928 --> 02:48:15,528
plan on bringing to the board

4685
02:48:16,990 --> 02:48:16,833
sometime next fiscal year.

4686
02:48:16,833 --> 02:48:18,568
>> question all right, for the

4687
02:48:18,568 --> 02:48:20,968
record. Budget workshop will

4688
02:48:23,406 --> 02:48:24,340
be. Continued until Friday

4689
02:48:24,340 --> 02:48:26,740
morning. 9 o'clock, a regular

4690
02:48:27,844 --> 02:48:28,445
commission meeting will be is

4691
02:48:28,445 --> 02:48:29,179
scheduled for 9 o'clock

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tomorrow. Things couldn't have

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been more. So we're adjourned