1 00:00:04,020 --> 00:00:07,040 Okay? Welcome back to the budget workshop. 2 00:00:09,180 --> 00:00:12,760 I'll make the same comment I made every day. We do not have public comment 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:19,500 at this time because this is a workshop, but we do anyone that wants to speak if you raise your hand, flag or stand or whatever. 4 00:00:20,460 --> 00:00:28,100 We're always allowed to speak as long as there's something pertinent to the situation. I would like to make one comment about the situation yesterday. 5 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:34,520 You know, I know the last name is the most everybody in this room, and a lot of people in 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,920 the country, and I don't know that any of us that our ancestors were there to meet the 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Mayflower. 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:48,180 So, I think we're all somewhat influenced in the country, so that's just my thought for the 9 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:48,680 day. 10 00:00:51,150 --> 00:00:51,310 Okay. 11 00:00:52,750 --> 00:00:55,890 Commissioner de Carlo, would you lead us in prayer and commission to get ready to flag 12 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:56,510 salute, please? 13 00:01:00,330 --> 00:01:05,350 Dearly Father again, we thank you for this day and keeping us safe and healthy Lord. 14 00:01:05,370 --> 00:01:08,930 We just ask that you would be with us to this side. 15 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:11,630 We can, Lord, keep us safe also, Lord. 16 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:20,530 Be with us as we finalize this budget, Lord, and thank you again for all your many blessings 17 00:01:23,110 --> 00:01:26,050 Fatherland, thank you, Emma. 18 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:34,310 I pledge allegiance to the fly of United States of America, and to the republic for which it 19 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:40,130 says one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 20 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,580 Thank you, gentlemen. 21 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,480 Mr. Jessica. 22 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,200 What's your plans? 23 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:57,200 did we want to start with the presentation or did we want to start with the 24 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 the constitutionals budget? 25 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:07,260 We can do the constitutionals if you'd like to share for the major 26 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,680 whoever's going to start with that one. 27 00:02:19,450 --> 00:02:19,770 Good morning. 28 00:02:20,990 --> 00:02:21,650 Good morning, sir. 29 00:02:21,970 --> 00:02:22,570 Morning. 30 00:02:24,110 --> 00:02:27,550 You know, a lot's been said up on the diets this week. 31 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:37,080 My budget, statutorily, has to be before you all, June the 1st. 32 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:43,500 So I polished my crystal ball, as sharp as I can get it as shiny as I can get it to try 33 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:48,640 to forecast what's going to be happening in September the following year. 34 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:57,500 We talked about consistency, hence, why I feel it's important to pay all our first responders 35 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:05,680 to the same amount. Making it easier for all of us to get through these hard times or any 36 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:13,560 times for that matter. And I always say, my doors open. If you don't understand, you don't 37 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:22,080 know something lean on my 40 years of institutional knowledge. My 26 years of being an administrator 38 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,860 working on this budget, my 10 years of being your share. 39 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,900 I feel like I've been disrespected and it bothers me. 40 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:43,230 When I hear that some of you, you five, have to answer to the constituents, 41 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:45,570 so does every other Constitution. 42 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:50,850 We have a evaluation every four years. 43 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:54,490 If they're not happy, we're out. 44 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:56,190 Which it should be. 45 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,960 But that said, I still, a third of what I do. 46 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:14,980 And my people do for you, for our constituents, and everybody, is run stuff that is your obligation. 47 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,120 That is under your purview. 48 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:26,480 That saves us all money because it's under my purview and the structure that we have with our 49 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,360 share of ourselves. 50 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,340 Because there's nobody better to do that than me and my people. 51 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:40,140 But to hear that we're not respected, or I feel that that's how it's presented. 52 00:04:41,180 --> 00:04:45,620 The lack of anybody coming to me and talking to me to say, hey, let's do 5 percent. 53 00:04:45,620 --> 00:04:50,480 I can't polish that crystal ball clear enough to tell me what's in your mind. 54 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:51,800 I've got to hear it from. 55 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:56,780 So I hope, move forward, we can do that. 56 00:04:58,940 --> 00:05:03,140 I've heard, I've listened, I've got upset, and the same breath. 57 00:05:03,580 --> 00:05:05,500 I've taken the fluff. 58 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:07,380 I've taken the reserve. 59 00:05:08,140 --> 00:05:12,720 We've been all over the place over my 26 years of being ministered in this budget. 60 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:18,940 from three year actuals on averages to shooting from the hip where we're at today. 61 00:05:20,140 --> 00:05:25,620 But we all have to communicate and we have not all been doing that. 62 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:34,480 That said, I've taken my budget, my increase from the 6.1% increase down to a five, 63 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:37,180 because that's the right thing to do. 64 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:41,800 My folks are here. We'll present that and I appreciate your time. 65 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:50,600 Okay, yesterday, are you going to give a number from the clerk's office? 66 00:05:57,020 --> 00:05:57,320 Good morning. 67 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,500 Good morning, commissioners. I believe you guys all received an email from the clerk yesterday. 68 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,540 We're not going to read it if you just tell us the numbers. 69 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,120 Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that he regrets that he can't be here. 70 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:17,120 We also have brought our budget down to the 5% as you guys have requested. 71 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:28,480 And our total number now is $3,061,919, that's a decrease of $32,971 from the previous year. 72 00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:30,530 Okay. 73 00:06:31,210 --> 00:06:32,390 Thank you so much. 74 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:34,530 Any questions? 75 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:35,490 Yes sir. 76 00:06:35,790 --> 00:06:37,990 We appreciate working with us. 77 00:06:41,410 --> 00:06:41,910 It's Jessica. 78 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:53,400 And thank you for not doing too side today. 79 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:05,840 Good morning, so our presentation today is a wrap up of all the requested items that were discussed the past couple of days. 80 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:15,020 So we'll start, we're going to go through in a fund item manner, so we'll start with that administration. 81 00:07:15,020 --> 00:07:25,680 There was a request to decrease the PRM conference line items, so within this fund 001-10 there will be a total savings of $800. 82 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:29,300 We also have a few- 83 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:52,700 Structure, being effective as of tomorrow. So those are just reallocations. So we will present that at the July 23 meeting as an update on what the personnel quantity in total will be in the general fund for administration, as well as the different allocations within the additional funds based on position. 84 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:56,620 And feel free to stop me at any time if there's any questions. 85 00:07:59,350 --> 00:08:04,410 The truck purchase for 45,000 is a 5050 split. 86 00:08:04,410 --> 00:08:09,990 This is a Jeep Patriot replacement and that'll be in the CIP and the public works. 87 00:08:10,930 --> 00:08:11,610 Funds. 88 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:21,220 We have the verified amount for the communication costs for the judicial 19 circuit judicial 89 00:08:21,220 --> 00:08:28,300 branch in the 103 fund from a decrease from 130,000 to 43,536. 90 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:40,520 There was a couple of discussions on the boat ramp and the allocation to assist with that. 91 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:46,080 So we will have 50,000 allocated to the Boating Improvement Fund as well as 50,000 allocated 92 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,920 to the Tourism Special Revenue Fund. 93 00:08:48,340 --> 00:08:53,140 And in addition, there was a discussion on removing the flagpole amount of 19,000. 94 00:08:53,140 --> 00:08:58,880 So that has been removed, and then we also, for the remaining balance, we will have the 95 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,820 pavilion in boat ramp restrooms still included. 96 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:08,420 So that will bring the breakdown for the voting improvement fund, as follows, with still 97 00:09:08,420 --> 00:09:10,940 remaining at the 128,000, 910. 98 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:16,620 So you'll have 9,000, excuse me, 59,400, and reserves. 99 00:09:16,780 --> 00:09:21,060 And that's to repair any waterway markers when needed. 100 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:23,640 you'll have $50,000 allocated to the boat ramp 101 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,120 and then $19,500 for the two restrooms. 102 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:34,170 For fleet services, there was a question 103 00:09:34,170 --> 00:09:36,810 on the increase on why it was so high. 104 00:09:37,430 --> 00:09:39,530 So from the amended, the actual increase 105 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:42,630 will be the same as the other departments at 7%. 106 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:46,750 The amended amount in the fiscal year 26 column 107 00:09:46,750 --> 00:09:50,110 was incorrect, and that'll be adjusted during the mid-year. 108 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:53,710 So it will only show the 7% as other departments show. 109 00:09:58,610 --> 00:10:04,450 additional notes and updates so we have parks and recreation sports complex so we are 110 00:10:04,450 --> 00:10:09,710 purchasing that gator utility cart that was discussed this fiscal year so that 111 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:13,710 won't need a replacement forthcoming and then in senior services we're 112 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:17,950 purchasing there was a discussion on three vans, three transit bans, meeting 113 00:10:17,950 --> 00:10:22,390 replacement and fiscal year 28 so to stagger that we're purchasing one this 114 00:10:22,390 --> 00:10:27,710 fiscal year budgeting for one next fiscal year and then fiscal year 28 they'll be 115 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:33,870 budget as well. So that provides that stagger versus all three meeting replacement in 116 00:10:33,870 --> 00:10:40,550 2028. For the airport, there was a comment on the emergency repair as a corrective maintenance. 117 00:10:41,210 --> 00:10:46,790 That has been, that's just a verbage. It's routine maintenance, so that has been reflected and 118 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:52,150 changed. For economic development, the bright mark contract, there's three years remaining, 119 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:57,070 including fiscal year 27, so after fiscal year 27, there will only be two years. 120 00:10:57,630 --> 00:11:02,170 And for the CIP fund, the interest, including profit, is just an interest account. 121 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:07,530 Again, that's just a verbage there that will be changed as well. 122 00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:13,550 And then general discussion, we have that OU A rates that was discussed to maybe do a workshop 123 00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:20,390 with them, but I'll have Justin Nelson chime in here a little bit on what the plan is to 124 00:11:20,390 --> 00:11:22,850 get those rates down a little bit. 125 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:28,500 Thank you, Jessica. 126 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,860 So we have in the work plan already. 127 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,040 We have a proper expense line in CIP and moving into next year. 128 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:44,420 We had two site locations that are on city irrigation, or I should say city, 129 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:50,940 but OUA water for irrigation that were already designated to be have wells put in. 130 00:11:50,940 --> 00:11:56,060 those two sites this year, this year come this next budget year coming up I should say not this year 131 00:11:56,060 --> 00:12:02,780 or now and those two sites we did not have the library in there yet because the library has 132 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:09,180 normally been a little bit less than the other two but we are now looking at library and if I can 133 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:14,980 find the funding within my budget that we've already presented we will get the library one done too 134 00:12:14,980 --> 00:12:19,720 But most of those high rates that we've seen in the one that's 135 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,720 the 800 a month is the irrigation line at the library. 136 00:12:24,140 --> 00:12:25,100 It's not the fire there. 137 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:29,540 No, sir, the fire is still, that's at a flat rate, 138 00:12:29,540 --> 00:12:31,020 and it does not have any consumption. 139 00:12:31,580 --> 00:12:33,020 But it is still at a flat rate. 140 00:12:33,260 --> 00:12:35,580 And it's based off meter size and all of that. 141 00:12:35,580 --> 00:12:39,320 And I have the full breakdown of the chart from the OUA 142 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,740 of what we pay. 143 00:12:41,820 --> 00:12:44,120 But those high rate is for fire suppression, 144 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,860 No, sir. 145 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,540 800 that was noted in there is the irrigation one. 146 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,040 So we're going to do away with that one. 147 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:51,540 So what is the firecultice? 148 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,240 I would have to go back and pull that one. 149 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,820 Because in talking to some of the board directors of there, they want to work closely with 150 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:05,980 the county and hopefully that's going to change very shortly with the change in management. 151 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:07,040 Yes, sir. 152 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:09,000 And that's where you'd like to have the workshop. 153 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:13,720 No, I would love to see what we can do to reduce some of those utility costs. 154 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:19,420 So we've got we've got some significantly high ones with a UA that are just at base rates. 155 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:27,340 So we've got we've got a handful of them that just the base rate is around $3,000 a month. 156 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,500 So I would love to see that's work on that if there's a way. 157 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:37,440 So we'll continue getting an evaluation and analysis on the fire suppression matter. 158 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:43,520 but just wanting to clarify that 800 was for irrigation and then we'll work with a U.A. to maybe 159 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,340 get a workshop together. 160 00:13:44,540 --> 00:13:51,280 And while we're on this subject, bring me up today on the conversation about the deed from 161 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:51,780 them. 162 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,740 Did you say it's in our, on our DS now, ready to go back? 163 00:13:56,980 --> 00:13:58,000 What are we doing on that? 164 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,260 I actually sent that to, we had a meeting with legal yesterday just to go through myself, 165 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,400 chief haze elite, and the administrator. 166 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,240 We met with legal yesterday. 167 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:12,760 The administrator had found a few items that I had missed and we've made those corrections. 168 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,100 We sent that over to Mr. Hayford and Mr. Kennedy this morning. 169 00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:23,400 Our goal is we're going to bring that in front of the board as we've revised it on the 23rd meeting. 170 00:14:24,260 --> 00:14:27,220 To our board, we're trying to get them to take it in front of their board. 171 00:14:27,580 --> 00:14:29,300 They have a meeting on the 20th. 172 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,410 So the request is for them to try to get that in front of their board on the 20th. 173 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:37,270 And this document, there are currently prepared and now you've 174 00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:38,010 yes, sir. 175 00:14:38,630 --> 00:14:40,030 Because we just redlined it. 176 00:14:40,290 --> 00:14:44,270 Because I mean, it's a simple, be simple transfer with the 177 00:14:44,270 --> 00:14:46,150 revision if you don't build it in so many days. 178 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:48,010 I mean, I can put that in a half a paragraph. 179 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:48,810 Yes, sir. 180 00:14:49,330 --> 00:14:53,130 There's a lot of back and forth in the nation documentation that 181 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:27,620 And please don't think I'm coming down any. But I go back to your comment yesterday. One day this week, earlier when we were talking about moving forward with the fire station. And you said, we got to get this out of the way. Well, hopefully this is going to be completed in next 10, 15 days. So then you can do your job. Yes, our chair. And my request in the email this morning is to have this thing closed by the end of the month. To have our closets have this thing closed out by the end of the month. 182 00:15:27,620 --> 00:15:40,600 So the goal at the July 23rd meeting is that, as long as what we've sent back, there's no further changes that OUA has is to have the chair sign once we received the sign copy from OUA. 183 00:15:41,380 --> 00:15:52,140 So the July 23rd as long as we received the sign copy before or after that date, and there's no changes we should be able to have your signature and move forward as long as it's approved by the remaining board. 184 00:15:52,140 --> 00:15:57,380 If you get us a copy of what you think, and we will make it a point to attend our meeting? 185 00:15:57,900 --> 00:15:58,420 Yes, sir. 186 00:15:58,820 --> 00:16:03,420 So I'm not sure that the management has changed yet, and I'd rather it didn't get delayed. 187 00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:04,340 Yes, sir. 188 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,260 I definitely can get you a copy of that. 189 00:16:06,260 --> 00:16:07,240 Thank you so much, yes. 190 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Yes, sir. 191 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Okay, it was just. 192 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:09,740 Okay. 193 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:17,060 So the final slide here is discussing the village scenarios. 194 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,280 At the July 23 meeting, we do have to set the tentative military as well as a special assessment rate. 195 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:30,980 But this is in regards to the village scenarios that are based on our taxable value of the 5 billion. 196 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:41,860 As you see in the first table there, it shows our current fiscal year 2526 at 7.8 to give you perspective, 197 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:50,540 as well as what is in the proposed fiscal year 2627 budget book because we received the updated taxable value after the budget book was prepared. 198 00:16:50,540 --> 00:17:00,040 So this gives you an overview and I will be happy to answer any questions for discussion on this item. 199 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,980 I can see it. I'll tell you what I thought. 200 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,800 You have a, sorry. You have a copy in front of you as well. 201 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:07,780 Okay. I apologize. 202 00:17:08,420 --> 00:17:08,660 Okay. 203 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,180 Yes. Thank you. 204 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:11,480 Yes, sir. 205 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,660 When we started on Monday before there were these reductions in a couple of additions. 206 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:28,860 You said, doing the 7.4691, what's going to have roughly a half million dollars or so to the good. 207 00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:35,020 Have you recalculated that number with the reductions and the additions? 208 00:17:35,780 --> 00:17:37,460 Do you have that number now called up? 209 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:47,060 We do not. At this time, because we are still, there are still some values that are being 210 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:52,900 provide you with an inaccurate number, because there could be some fluctuations in that, as well 211 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:58,040 as obtaining the revenues that we're receiving from the state, as far as the small county 212 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:06,240 cert tax, those items are usually provided mid-July. So there's still some numbers here. We're 213 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,360 just estimating, but there's still some numbers that are needing a true value. But generally everything 214 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:20,080 has gone to the good with the exception of Adnon-Bond the Gator going ahead and behind the SUV this year. 215 00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:22,160 Everything else has been a reduction. 216 00:18:24,140 --> 00:18:26,580 It pays off the numbers we started with on Monday. 217 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:30,020 Yes, there has been a few reductions, yes sir. 218 00:18:30,340 --> 00:18:37,020 So generally speaking, we're not worse off if anything were better off than we were as a Monday as far as. 219 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:37,440 All right. 220 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:38,760 Thank you. 221 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:39,380 Yes sir. 222 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:48,020 Just this point, you want us to just discuss which village we're looking for? 223 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:54,880 No, just discussion at this point, because the village will be set at the July 23rd meeting. 224 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,240 Lisa, are you needing to know that before that date to update the budget book? 225 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:01,740 No, okay. 226 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,040 We should. I mean, we should, I mean, you can always, you can always until the hearing 227 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,360 It can go up or down. What should you do there? You can't do that. But I mean probably for our 228 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:16,080 sake we should have a discussion which we were going. I'll don't you think commissioners? 229 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:19,960 I agree. I just didn't go ahead and give you a tentative number today. 230 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:26,680 Well I think doing with Mr. Chairman, I think doing a problem to the have right now is it. 231 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:31,280 I'm still, I still like the 7.4. I know that based on the fact that the calculations 232 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:40,580 year given what we have today on the budget, that's $503,500,000 more than what we need. 233 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,000 So given that, I think it's going to be less, I mean, we're going to have more money than 234 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,700 what we need here. 235 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:56,440 It's still like the 7.4, but the issue is I like to see the final number do ensure that. 236 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,060 Mr. Chair. 237 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,740 Mr. Chair. 238 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,100 Commissioner Varroge. 239 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,360 You mean the 7.4691. 240 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:04,960 I'm sorry. 241 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:07,840 You mean the 7.4691. 242 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,980 Not 7.4. 243 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,780 Yeah. 244 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:11,900 The last column. 245 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,300 I'm going to make sure that we're going to, 246 00:20:14,300 --> 00:20:15,460 I like the last column. 247 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,880 Because I don't want to raise taxes. 248 00:20:17,020 --> 00:20:17,880 But I wanted to see, 249 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,040 I think your numbers, 250 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:26,180 I think your number that we walked in here on Monday 251 00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:33,440 is going to be less. Okay. All right. So with that, that's going to be more money than 252 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:39,800 the $503, 115 dollars you got sitting here. And then that just goes back and you're sitting 253 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:48,760 at 35.77% in your reserves. But keep in mind, no matter which one of these numbers you choose, 254 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:53,720 it doesn't raise taxes unless your assessment went up. If you stay with the 7.8 on my vacating 255 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,400 doing that, an issue assessment, what up your taxes don't go up? 256 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,380 Well, it just means that we collect more money. 257 00:21:00,740 --> 00:21:04,360 Absolutely, but your taxes don't go up on your home, unless your assessment went up. 258 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,720 And we know the assessments went up this year. 259 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,300 Well, they did, but we have a lot of new ones on there also. 260 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:11,960 Well, I'm just saying that. 261 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,660 They go up every year in certain areas. 262 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,360 I mean, he may work, he'd work in my neighborhood right now. 263 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,820 Well, in all three special assessments went up as well. 264 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:26,600 So even if everything was equal on the top of the line, the total tax bill would be higher based on the fact. 265 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:32,720 Especially on the lines on all, I got that, but I still think in the long run when you start trying to lower 266 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,600 mill, it gives a different perspective to people in their mind. 267 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,280 You keep this and somebody's going to say, you got 7.8, now you're just collected 2 million 268 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,920 dollars, almost 2 million, almost 2.1 million dollars more than what you needed. 269 00:21:45,540 --> 00:21:51,200 If that's the case, why won't a lot of people go through and go through the clerk report and 270 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,420 assure. 271 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,880 I'm just given what they want, and we wouldn't have that problem. 272 00:21:57,020 --> 00:21:58,480 I mean, that's a ridiculous exercise. 273 00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:02,400 If we're going to stay with them, if you're going to stay with the millage, at 7. 274 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,560 I'm not asking that. 275 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,480 I'm just thinking, you know, I'm going to let me finish. 276 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,980 If you're going to stay with the same millage, or if that's the thought process, then why 277 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:13,220 will we end this issue, actually? 278 00:22:13,220 --> 00:22:20,220 Commissioner, please. I did not advocate that I just was for the record if you stay at 7.8 on my house. 279 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,900 Other than the special assessments if my assessment didn't go up because they're doing it right now. 280 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:37,200 I'm just trying to state the facts. If you go to 7.4, most everybody's going to get a reduction unless 281 00:22:37,740 --> 00:22:43,260 a new construction or something like that. If you go in the middle, then most everybody's going 282 00:22:43,260 --> 00:22:44,780 to get a reduction also. 283 00:22:49,670 --> 00:23:05,610 You and I are talking, we're doing this. We do that a lot. I never 284 00:23:05,610 --> 00:23:06,710 what you just said. 285 00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:13,350 What I'm saying is that we went through this whole last three days in order to get a budget 286 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,410 down to something that was reasonable. 287 00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:20,980 It's the clerk of court in the sheriff. 288 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:25,100 We said, go at 5%. 289 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:32,500 If I was sitting on their shoes, and I'd sit there and say, well, let's say hypothetically, 290 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,100 we say $7.6. 291 00:23:36,420 --> 00:23:41,320 It is $1.1 million more than what we need. 292 00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:49,950 So if I'm sitting in their shoes, look at me and look at the support of what we get through 293 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:50,510 the exercise. 294 00:23:52,590 --> 00:23:53,750 That's my point. 295 00:23:55,950 --> 00:24:01,770 All I'm saying is if you go down to something that you basically need to take care of the budget 296 00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:07,590 And that 7.4 gives you right now without these additions. 297 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:10,870 You should have a million dollars of buffer. 298 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:16,650 Not two million, not 1.6, not 1.1, not 650. 299 00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:19,210 So that's my point. 300 00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:22,110 I agree with you in the assessed values and all that stuff. 301 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:23,370 I got that. 302 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,090 Well, thank you back. 303 00:24:26,770 --> 00:24:29,650 Eight years ago, we cut the millage. 304 00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:35,510 next year we came back and got spanked because we couldn't pay our bills. So we had to 305 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:41,470 do that and the people really get upset when you raise the millage. And I don't blame 306 00:24:41,470 --> 00:24:46,990 them. I don't like it either. You know, we don't know what next year's going to bring. We have 307 00:24:46,990 --> 00:24:52,330 a good idea that it's going to take a lot away. If you collect, if you give everybody a reduction, 308 00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:57,030 I'm just saying 7.6. And this is all for comfort. So you give everybody a reduction in their 309 00:24:57,590 --> 00:25:04,290 And you still have a amount, you have a amount of reserve, and I know you don't want to pay tax that a reserve, but you can always put it back in the landfill trust. 310 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:08,630 And therefore, you're not, when you have to take it out of there to pay your bills, you're not taking that a reserve. 311 00:25:08,910 --> 00:25:10,070 So if that makes you feel better. 312 00:25:12,030 --> 00:25:19,030 But if you go down to 7.8 this year, we could be at 9.8 next year. 313 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:26,190 If voters decide that they want to do that, because I am not going to be one for cutting services. 314 00:25:27,650 --> 00:25:33,510 And I know first responders are the most, the ones we have to have out there. 315 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:42,970 But to me, senior services, the library, the playgrounds are imported to the people out there. 316 00:25:43,410 --> 00:25:48,070 Now it's not the emergency side, but it's so imported to their quality of life. 317 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:56,560 And I think you're going to see a big spike next year, and the people are going to be very unhappy. 318 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,080 You can give them a reduction. 319 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:04,380 Yes, 7.6, everybody's going to get a reduction and you still have a, you have some 320 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:04,720 cushion. 321 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:13,140 So if they don't pass this, of course, the people run for government or the candidates are already 322 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:16,500 saying if it does a pass, we're going to do something next to you and how you've been told 323 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:17,200 that. 324 00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:20,180 So let's just say they didn't do anything. 325 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,340 You can do another cut next to you. 326 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:29,800 you could cut from 7.8 to 7.6 this year, maybe next year you could go to 7.3, 7.4, what 327 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,080 is, I mean you could keep given cuts. But if it backfires on us and we have to go up, 328 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,020 is not pleasant. 329 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:48,620 Mr. Chair. Yes sir. I hear both of you and both of you are making equally 330 00:26:48,620 --> 00:26:56,300 good points I believe, I can see the different thoughts, so I will add mine to it. 331 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:04,820 Just the fact that if we have to go up in the future, we'll aggravate people then as not 332 00:27:04,820 --> 00:27:10,480 as big a concern of mine, and I know that it will be, I'll be one of the ones running 333 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:19,760 next, and so likely that would come in a political year, I don't care, if we can, and 334 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:28,180 We keep the last column as commissioner burrows, but it was that median number, which I don't think that word was used correctly. 335 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:37,120 I don't think it's actually a median statistically speaking, but anyhow, that last derived number, the 7.4691. 336 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:49,360 For rounding, say, 7.5 still has us with a half a million over and above, which is a reasonable reserve addition. 337 00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:58,480 And would give, I believe, our citizens, their best break that we can afford at this time. 338 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,360 And again, if we have to go up there after and it gets all of our butts beat, so be it. 339 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:14,280 There are things to do now for this 2627 budget is to do what's right by this 2627 budget. 340 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,700 Just as we ask the sheriff to do, just as we ask the clerk to do, 341 00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:23,240 that's my fault. 342 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,700 So you're saying you would consider 7.5. 343 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:32,100 7.5 would be the number that I'd like to see. That's that's three tenths of a mill, all. 344 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,620 I'm just a minute for discussion. 345 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:38,060 Yeah, I know. Give me the difference between that and I would do 7.5. 346 00:28:38,740 --> 00:28:41,140 I mean, I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. 347 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,700 I would be comfortable with that. 348 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,160 Commissioner Nikola? 349 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,440 Okay. 350 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,440 That's a compromise. 351 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080 And I think I'm so proud of this more. 352 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,000 We compromise and work on things like that. 353 00:28:52,540 --> 00:28:53,400 I'm a big world. 354 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,640 You mean, men? 355 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,820 Men, men, men, men, men. 356 00:28:56,820 --> 00:28:58,520 You're always... 357 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,580 You're a habit duck. 358 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:05,030 But then the leg was still a lovey joke. 359 00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:08,030 Well, you know, I appreciate the compromise. 360 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:11,750 But you know, sometimes when I do numbers up here constantly, 361 00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:17,570 and the point that really gets me a little bit. 362 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:19,610 And I know the 75 is a good number. 363 00:29:19,690 --> 00:29:24,330 I just don't want to end up doing an exercise that is meaningless. 364 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:25,110 It's all. 365 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:27,430 Would you like to put that into form of emotion? 366 00:29:27,710 --> 00:29:28,490 No, we don't need to motion. 367 00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:31,010 Let's not just the word stop, it's just the word stop. 368 00:29:31,010 --> 00:29:31,030 This is a word stop. 369 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:33,230 So because we are working with the recommendations, it is a step for us to try. 370 00:29:34,450 --> 00:29:39,250 You know, if we have a firing and the courthouse, we are going to bring it down, we can come back 371 00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:39,770 in the just. 372 00:29:41,250 --> 00:29:43,970 So we want me to go and grow out for a while. 373 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:48,530 Well, that's a recommendation at this point, we are going to shoot forward. 374 00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:53,790 And obviously your number's might change, we haven't seen the final product yet, but for 375 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:57,230 discussion, say, I think that that number, that's, 376 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,460 And it looks better and it's easier to tell your constituents, say, what a joke I'm down to on the 377 00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:12,880 middle of it, but we came down from 7875. Not we came down from 787. 0.4695. 378 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,140 I'm a program for 7.469. 379 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:17,400 Commissioner. 380 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,900 What is the date the budget is going to be finally done? 381 00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:24,200 Or excuse me, the audit. 382 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,420 I'm sorry. 383 00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:26,940 I'm sorry. 384 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,020 Because you made a comment about somebody's number 385 00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:30,160 or like floating. 386 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:31,200 That could be January. 387 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:33,500 Okay. 388 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:34,860 The date. 389 00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:35,220 I'm sorry. 390 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,980 Can you repeat the question? 391 00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:38,880 One is the audit supposed to be done. 392 00:30:39,380 --> 00:30:42,160 Right now we are challenging some findings. 393 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:51,960 That they presented to us, so I believe we should see it sometime next week once we get through this. 394 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,440 So we may even have that before our meeting on the 23rd, we hope to have it. 395 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Yes. 396 00:30:57,740 --> 00:30:58,820 That makes a big difference. 397 00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Yep. 398 00:30:59,740 --> 00:31:00,780 That's all it's done. 399 00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:04,070 That's reason I'm asking that question. 400 00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:10,010 Because if I don't, you know, we can do whatever we want here like with it, with the millage, 401 00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:16,550 but we're shooting in the dark when the artist's not done and we know, and I'm talking 402 00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:23,230 from me personally, I mean, these guys, there's four of us up here, four between outside 403 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:23,890 of me. 404 00:31:24,790 --> 00:31:28,030 For additional lessons, four additional plus me, okay? 405 00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:33,070 You and there's another part of me, I'm four, so my point was, is that I don't want to 406 00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:39,070 and not know my bottom line number, that's a bigger issue for me. 407 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:45,490 With the third just in Justin Nelson, it showed me that his accounts are there, so I'm comfortable with it. 408 00:31:46,090 --> 00:31:49,670 Okay, can I ask one more question? This is not on the budget. 409 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:50,490 Really necessary. 410 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,350 Well really it is because I need to close out the airport issue. 411 00:31:55,850 --> 00:32:01,910 I thought to Department of Commerce yesterday that $300,000 grant is not closed out yet. 412 00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:12,410 Yes, or I'll find out for sure, we've sent them all the close out information, the problem was we had a line item that could not be invoiced. 413 00:32:13,470 --> 00:32:20,050 So, we had to modify the grant agreement to take that out. So, it should be... 414 00:32:20,050 --> 00:32:20,650 What's your question? 415 00:32:21,230 --> 00:32:29,850 She told me yesterday, because our residents come out, we're trying to do another riff grant for the water main to the industrial park office 70. 416 00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:34,770 And so I've got three grants in Riff, right at present time. 417 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:36,010 I can close this one out. 418 00:32:37,310 --> 00:32:40,390 There's not a problem of having more of the grants than for 419 00:32:40,390 --> 00:32:41,910 Okay, shall be counted in three. 420 00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:45,710 But I'd like to get that one closed out because it's. 421 00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:50,310 And just Commissioner, so you're where we're we're applying for one for the 422 00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:52,630 construction of that project also. 423 00:32:52,790 --> 00:32:54,710 I did not know there was another one. 424 00:32:54,730 --> 00:32:55,070 Okay. 425 00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:56,790 I just want to make sure you understand. 426 00:32:56,790 --> 00:33:03,980 we were applying also because the odds of us getting that grant based off of our grant rider 427 00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:11,680 with riff is very good for us to get the money. I think there's 24, 27 million out there. 428 00:33:11,780 --> 00:33:18,980 27. 27. Yes, sir. And we're putting in for 5.6, I think, and hopes that we would get phase 429 00:33:18,980 --> 00:33:24,640 1, which is about 1.79. So a little under 1.8. 430 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:31,300 We can close that. We can get that one closed out that would help me on another issue. I'm dealing with a department of commerce if you would. 431 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:39,080 Yes, sir. I will get with the grants department just make sure what we've got left, but I think it was just we were waiting on them to do the modification. 432 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,560 It was it out. 433 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:45,740 It was adcon. Yeah, adcon was she told me as to have adcon has not given me information. 434 00:33:49,490 --> 00:33:49,670 Thank you. 435 00:33:49,670 --> 00:33:51,690 What else? Madam Administrator. 436 00:33:51,890 --> 00:33:52,690 That is all, sir. 437 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:58,630 I just wanted to say thank you to our staff, thank you to you all and for your support and 438 00:33:58,630 --> 00:34:02,350 understanding as we move through this budget process knowing that there's still some 439 00:34:02,350 --> 00:34:05,170 values that we are waiting for confirmation on. 440 00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:06,790 So thank you to everyone. 441 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:10,050 So technically this is the last day we have schedule. 442 00:34:10,270 --> 00:34:16,130 If it's necessary, we will come back and have another one or we can do it on a day of a 443 00:34:16,130 --> 00:34:17,150 counter-commissioning meeting. 444 00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:20,430 So feel free to do whatever you need to do for your time. 445 00:34:20,490 --> 00:34:20,970 Thank you. 446 00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:26,930 time to do that. I just want to say thank you to the board and to the staff and the 447 00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:33,890 constitutional. Sometimes it is hectic, hectic, but we're all about Okotubi and when 448 00:34:33,890 --> 00:34:37,930 it's all over the list we're all still going to be friends and I call it a big family. 449 00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:41,110 So, thank you, we're adjourned.