[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:04] Okay? Welcome back to the budget workshop. [0:09] I'll make the same comment I made every day. We do not have public comment [0:12] at this time because this is a workshop, but we do anyone that wants to speak if you raise your hand, flag or stand or whatever. [0:20] We're always allowed to speak as long as there's something pertinent to the situation. I would like to make one comment about the situation yesterday. [0:28] You know, I know the last name is the most everybody in this room, and a lot of people in [0:34] the country, and I don't know that any of us that our ancestors were there to meet the [0:39] Mayflower. [0:41] So, I think we're all somewhat influenced in the country, so that's just my thought for the [0:48] day. [0:51] Okay. [0:52] Commissioner de Carlo, would you lead us in prayer and commission to get ready to flag [0:55] salute, please? [1:00] Dearly Father again, we thank you for this day and keeping us safe and healthy Lord. [1:05] We just ask that you would be with us to this side. [1:09] We can, Lord, keep us safe also, Lord. [1:11] Be with us as we finalize this budget, Lord, and thank you again for all your many blessings [1:23] Fatherland, thank you, Emma. [1:27] I pledge allegiance to the fly of United States of America, and to the republic for which it [1:34] says one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [1:43] Thank you, gentlemen. [1:44] Mr. Jessica. [1:49] What's your plans? [1:51] did we want to start with the presentation or did we want to start with the [1:57] the constitutionals budget? [2:01] We can do the constitutionals if you'd like to share for the major [2:07] whoever's going to start with that one. [2:19] Good morning. [2:20] Good morning, sir. [2:21] Morning. [2:24] You know, a lot's been said up on the diets this week. [2:31] My budget, statutorily, has to be before you all, June the 1st. [2:38] So I polished my crystal ball, as sharp as I can get it as shiny as I can get it to try [2:43] to forecast what's going to be happening in September the following year. [2:49] We talked about consistency, hence, why I feel it's important to pay all our first responders [2:57] to the same amount. Making it easier for all of us to get through these hard times or any [3:05] times for that matter. And I always say, my doors open. If you don't understand, you don't [3:13] know something lean on my 40 years of institutional knowledge. My 26 years of being an administrator [3:22] working on this budget, my 10 years of being your share. [3:28] I feel like I've been disrespected and it bothers me. [3:35] When I hear that some of you, you five, have to answer to the constituents, [3:44] so does every other Constitution. [3:47] We have a evaluation every four years. [3:50] If they're not happy, we're out. [3:55] Which it should be. [3:58] But that said, I still, a third of what I do. [4:03] And my people do for you, for our constituents, and everybody, is run stuff that is your obligation. [4:16] That is under your purview. [4:18] That saves us all money because it's under my purview and the structure that we have with our [4:26] share of ourselves. [4:28] Because there's nobody better to do that than me and my people. [4:33] But to hear that we're not respected, or I feel that that's how it's presented. [4:41] The lack of anybody coming to me and talking to me to say, hey, let's do 5 percent. [4:45] I can't polish that crystal ball clear enough to tell me what's in your mind. [4:50] I've got to hear it from. [4:52] So I hope, move forward, we can do that. [4:58] I've heard, I've listened, I've got upset, and the same breath. [5:03] I've taken the fluff. [5:06] I've taken the reserve. [5:08] We've been all over the place over my 26 years of being ministered in this budget. [5:12] from three year actuals on averages to shooting from the hip where we're at today. [5:20] But we all have to communicate and we have not all been doing that. [5:27] That said, I've taken my budget, my increase from the 6.1% increase down to a five, [5:35] because that's the right thing to do. [5:38] My folks are here. We'll present that and I appreciate your time. [5:45] Okay, yesterday, are you going to give a number from the clerk's office? [5:57] Good morning. [5:57] Good morning, commissioners. I believe you guys all received an email from the clerk yesterday. [6:04] We're not going to read it if you just tell us the numbers. [6:06] Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that he regrets that he can't be here. [6:12] We also have brought our budget down to the 5% as you guys have requested. [6:17] And our total number now is $3,061,919, that's a decrease of $32,971 from the previous year. [6:30] Okay. [6:31] Thank you so much. [6:34] Any questions? [6:35] Yes sir. [6:35] We appreciate working with us. [6:41] It's Jessica. [6:51] And thank you for not doing too side today. [6:56] Good morning, so our presentation today is a wrap up of all the requested items that were discussed the past couple of days. [7:06] So we'll start, we're going to go through in a fund item manner, so we'll start with that administration. [7:15] There was a request to decrease the PRM conference line items, so within this fund 001-10 there will be a total savings of $800. [7:27] We also have a few- [7:30] Structure, being effective as of tomorrow. So those are just reallocations. So we will present that at the July 23 meeting as an update on what the personnel quantity in total will be in the general fund for administration, as well as the different allocations within the additional funds based on position. [7:53] And feel free to stop me at any time if there's any questions. [7:59] The truck purchase for 45,000 is a 5050 split. [8:04] This is a Jeep Patriot replacement and that'll be in the CIP and the public works. [8:10] Funds. [8:13] We have the verified amount for the communication costs for the judicial 19 circuit judicial [8:21] branch in the 103 fund from a decrease from 130,000 to 43,536. [8:33] There was a couple of discussions on the boat ramp and the allocation to assist with that. [8:40] So we will have 50,000 allocated to the Boating Improvement Fund as well as 50,000 allocated [8:46] to the Tourism Special Revenue Fund. [8:48] And in addition, there was a discussion on removing the flagpole amount of 19,000. [8:53] So that has been removed, and then we also, for the remaining balance, we will have the [8:58] pavilion in boat ramp restrooms still included. [9:02] So that will bring the breakdown for the voting improvement fund, as follows, with still [9:08] remaining at the 128,000, 910. [9:11] So you'll have 9,000, excuse me, 59,400, and reserves. [9:16] And that's to repair any waterway markers when needed. [9:21] you'll have $50,000 allocated to the boat ramp [9:23] and then $19,500 for the two restrooms. [9:31] For fleet services, there was a question [9:34] on the increase on why it was so high. [9:37] So from the amended, the actual increase [9:39] will be the same as the other departments at 7%. [9:42] The amended amount in the fiscal year 26 column [9:46] was incorrect, and that'll be adjusted during the mid-year. [9:50] So it will only show the 7% as other departments show. [9:58] additional notes and updates so we have parks and recreation sports complex so we are [10:04] purchasing that gator utility cart that was discussed this fiscal year so that [10:09] won't need a replacement forthcoming and then in senior services we're [10:13] purchasing there was a discussion on three vans, three transit bans, meeting [10:17] replacement and fiscal year 28 so to stagger that we're purchasing one this [10:22] fiscal year budgeting for one next fiscal year and then fiscal year 28 they'll be [10:27] budget as well. So that provides that stagger versus all three meeting replacement in [10:33] 2028. For the airport, there was a comment on the emergency repair as a corrective maintenance. [10:41] That has been, that's just a verbage. It's routine maintenance, so that has been reflected and [10:46] changed. For economic development, the bright mark contract, there's three years remaining, [10:52] including fiscal year 27, so after fiscal year 27, there will only be two years. [10:57] And for the CIP fund, the interest, including profit, is just an interest account. [11:02] Again, that's just a verbage there that will be changed as well. [11:07] And then general discussion, we have that OU A rates that was discussed to maybe do a workshop [11:13] with them, but I'll have Justin Nelson chime in here a little bit on what the plan is to [11:20] get those rates down a little bit. [11:27] Thank you, Jessica. [11:29] So we have in the work plan already. [11:33] We have a proper expense line in CIP and moving into next year. [11:38] We had two site locations that are on city irrigation, or I should say city, [11:44] but OUA water for irrigation that were already designated to be have wells put in. [11:50] those two sites this year, this year come this next budget year coming up I should say not this year [11:56] or now and those two sites we did not have the library in there yet because the library has [12:02] normally been a little bit less than the other two but we are now looking at library and if I can [12:09] find the funding within my budget that we've already presented we will get the library one done too [12:14] But most of those high rates that we've seen in the one that's [12:19] the 800 a month is the irrigation line at the library. [12:24] It's not the fire there. [12:25] No, sir, the fire is still, that's at a flat rate, [12:29] and it does not have any consumption. [12:31] But it is still at a flat rate. [12:33] And it's based off meter size and all of that. [12:35] And I have the full breakdown of the chart from the OUA [12:39] of what we pay. [12:41] But those high rate is for fire suppression, [12:44] No, sir. [12:45] 800 that was noted in there is the irrigation one. [12:48] So we're going to do away with that one. [12:50] So what is the firecultice? [12:52] I would have to go back and pull that one. [12:55] Because in talking to some of the board directors of there, they want to work closely with [13:00] the county and hopefully that's going to change very shortly with the change in management. [13:06] Yes, sir. [13:07] And that's where you'd like to have the workshop. [13:09] No, I would love to see what we can do to reduce some of those utility costs. [13:13] So we've got we've got some significantly high ones with a UA that are just at base rates. [13:20] So we've got we've got a handful of them that just the base rate is around $3,000 a month. [13:27] So I would love to see that's work on that if there's a way. [13:31] So we'll continue getting an evaluation and analysis on the fire suppression matter. [13:37] but just wanting to clarify that 800 was for irrigation and then we'll work with a U.A. to maybe [13:43] get a workshop together. [13:44] And while we're on this subject, bring me up today on the conversation about the deed from [13:51] them. [13:51] Did you say it's in our, on our DS now, ready to go back? [13:56] What are we doing on that? [13:58] I actually sent that to, we had a meeting with legal yesterday just to go through myself, [14:03] chief haze elite, and the administrator. [14:05] We met with legal yesterday. [14:08] The administrator had found a few items that I had missed and we've made those corrections. [14:13] We sent that over to Mr. Hayford and Mr. Kennedy this morning. [14:18] Our goal is we're going to bring that in front of the board as we've revised it on the 23rd meeting. [14:24] To our board, we're trying to get them to take it in front of their board. [14:27] They have a meeting on the 20th. [14:29] So the request is for them to try to get that in front of their board on the 20th. [14:33] And this document, there are currently prepared and now you've [14:37] yes, sir. [14:38] Because we just redlined it. [14:40] Because I mean, it's a simple, be simple transfer with the [14:44] revision if you don't build it in so many days. [14:46] I mean, I can put that in a half a paragraph. [14:48] Yes, sir. [14:49] There's a lot of back and forth in the nation documentation that [15:00] And please don't think I'm coming down any. But I go back to your comment yesterday. One day this week, earlier when we were talking about moving forward with the fire station. And you said, we got to get this out of the way. Well, hopefully this is going to be completed in next 10, 15 days. So then you can do your job. Yes, our chair. And my request in the email this morning is to have this thing closed by the end of the month. To have our closets have this thing closed out by the end of the month. [15:27] So the goal at the July 23rd meeting is that, as long as what we've sent back, there's no further changes that OUA has is to have the chair sign once we received the sign copy from OUA. [15:41] So the July 23rd as long as we received the sign copy before or after that date, and there's no changes we should be able to have your signature and move forward as long as it's approved by the remaining board. [15:52] If you get us a copy of what you think, and we will make it a point to attend our meeting? [15:57] Yes, sir. [15:58] So I'm not sure that the management has changed yet, and I'd rather it didn't get delayed. [16:04] Yes, sir. [16:04] I definitely can get you a copy of that. [16:06] Thank you so much, yes. [16:07] Yes, sir. [16:08] Okay, it was just. [16:09] Okay. [16:13] So the final slide here is discussing the village scenarios. [16:17] At the July 23 meeting, we do have to set the tentative military as well as a special assessment rate. [16:22] But this is in regards to the village scenarios that are based on our taxable value of the 5 billion. [16:32] As you see in the first table there, it shows our current fiscal year 2526 at 7.8 to give you perspective, [16:42] as well as what is in the proposed fiscal year 2627 budget book because we received the updated taxable value after the budget book was prepared. [16:50] So this gives you an overview and I will be happy to answer any questions for discussion on this item. [17:00] I can see it. I'll tell you what I thought. [17:02] You have a, sorry. You have a copy in front of you as well. [17:07] Okay. I apologize. [17:08] Okay. [17:09] Yes. Thank you. [17:10] Yes, sir. [17:13] When we started on Monday before there were these reductions in a couple of additions. [17:19] You said, doing the 7.4691, what's going to have roughly a half million dollars or so to the good. [17:29] Have you recalculated that number with the reductions and the additions? [17:35] Do you have that number now called up? [17:37] We do not. At this time, because we are still, there are still some values that are being [17:47] provide you with an inaccurate number, because there could be some fluctuations in that, as well [17:52] as obtaining the revenues that we're receiving from the state, as far as the small county [17:58] cert tax, those items are usually provided mid-July. So there's still some numbers here. We're [18:06] just estimating, but there's still some numbers that are needing a true value. But generally everything [18:11] has gone to the good with the exception of Adnon-Bond the Gator going ahead and behind the SUV this year. [18:20] Everything else has been a reduction. [18:24] It pays off the numbers we started with on Monday. [18:27] Yes, there has been a few reductions, yes sir. [18:30] So generally speaking, we're not worse off if anything were better off than we were as a Monday as far as. [18:37] All right. [18:38] Thank you. [18:39] Yes sir. [18:41] Just this point, you want us to just discuss which village we're looking for? [18:48] No, just discussion at this point, because the village will be set at the July 23rd meeting. [18:55] Lisa, are you needing to know that before that date to update the budget book? [19:01] No, okay. [19:02] We should. I mean, we should, I mean, you can always, you can always until the hearing [19:07] It can go up or down. What should you do there? You can't do that. But I mean probably for our [19:11] sake we should have a discussion which we were going. I'll don't you think commissioners? [19:16] I agree. I just didn't go ahead and give you a tentative number today. [19:20] Well I think doing with Mr. Chairman, I think doing a problem to the have right now is it. [19:26] I'm still, I still like the 7.4. I know that based on the fact that the calculations [19:31] year given what we have today on the budget, that's $503,500,000 more than what we need. [19:41] So given that, I think it's going to be less, I mean, we're going to have more money than [19:45] what we need here. [19:45] It's still like the 7.4, but the issue is I like to see the final number do ensure that. [19:56] Mr. Chair. [19:58] Mr. Chair. [19:59] Commissioner Varroge. [20:00] You mean the 7.4691. [20:04] I'm sorry. [20:05] You mean the 7.4691. [20:08] Not 7.4. [20:10] Yeah. [20:11] The last column. [20:11] I'm going to make sure that we're going to, [20:14] I like the last column. [20:15] Because I don't want to raise taxes. [20:17] But I wanted to see, [20:18] I think your numbers, [20:20] I think your number that we walked in here on Monday [20:26] is going to be less. Okay. All right. So with that, that's going to be more money than [20:33] the $503, 115 dollars you got sitting here. And then that just goes back and you're sitting [20:39] at 35.77% in your reserves. But keep in mind, no matter which one of these numbers you choose, [20:49] it doesn't raise taxes unless your assessment went up. If you stay with the 7.8 on my vacating [20:53] doing that, an issue assessment, what up your taxes don't go up? [20:58] Well, it just means that we collect more money. [21:00] Absolutely, but your taxes don't go up on your home, unless your assessment went up. [21:04] And we know the assessments went up this year. [21:08] Well, they did, but we have a lot of new ones on there also. [21:10] Well, I'm just saying that. [21:11] They go up every year in certain areas. [21:13] I mean, he may work, he'd work in my neighborhood right now. [21:17] Well, in all three special assessments went up as well. [21:20] So even if everything was equal on the top of the line, the total tax bill would be higher based on the fact. [21:26] Especially on the lines on all, I got that, but I still think in the long run when you start trying to lower [21:32] mill, it gives a different perspective to people in their mind. [21:36] You keep this and somebody's going to say, you got 7.8, now you're just collected 2 million [21:40] dollars, almost 2 million, almost 2.1 million dollars more than what you needed. [21:45] If that's the case, why won't a lot of people go through and go through the clerk report and [21:51] assure. [21:51] I'm just given what they want, and we wouldn't have that problem. [21:57] I mean, that's a ridiculous exercise. [21:59] If we're going to stay with them, if you're going to stay with the millage, at 7. [22:02] I'm not asking that. [22:03] I'm just thinking, you know, I'm going to let me finish. [22:06] If you're going to stay with the same millage, or if that's the thought process, then why [22:11] will we end this issue, actually? [22:13] Commissioner, please. I did not advocate that I just was for the record if you stay at 7.8 on my house. [22:21] Other than the special assessments if my assessment didn't go up because they're doing it right now. [22:31] I'm just trying to state the facts. If you go to 7.4, most everybody's going to get a reduction unless [22:37] a new construction or something like that. If you go in the middle, then most everybody's going [22:43] to get a reduction also. [22:49] You and I are talking, we're doing this. We do that a lot. I never [23:05] what you just said. [23:07] What I'm saying is that we went through this whole last three days in order to get a budget [23:13] down to something that was reasonable. [23:18] It's the clerk of court in the sheriff. [23:22] We said, go at 5%. [23:25] If I was sitting on their shoes, and I'd sit there and say, well, let's say hypothetically, [23:32] we say $7.6. [23:36] It is $1.1 million more than what we need. [23:43] So if I'm sitting in their shoes, look at me and look at the support of what we get through [23:49] the exercise. [23:52] That's my point. [23:55] All I'm saying is if you go down to something that you basically need to take care of the budget [24:01] And that 7.4 gives you right now without these additions. [24:08] You should have a million dollars of buffer. [24:11] Not two million, not 1.6, not 1.1, not 650. [24:18] So that's my point. [24:19] I agree with you in the assessed values and all that stuff. [24:22] I got that. [24:23] Well, thank you back. [24:26] Eight years ago, we cut the millage. [24:29] next year we came back and got spanked because we couldn't pay our bills. So we had to [24:35] do that and the people really get upset when you raise the millage. And I don't blame [24:41] them. I don't like it either. You know, we don't know what next year's going to bring. We have [24:46] a good idea that it's going to take a lot away. If you collect, if you give everybody a reduction, [24:52] I'm just saying 7.6. And this is all for comfort. So you give everybody a reduction in their [24:57] And you still have a amount, you have a amount of reserve, and I know you don't want to pay tax that a reserve, but you can always put it back in the landfill trust. [25:04] And therefore, you're not, when you have to take it out of there to pay your bills, you're not taking that a reserve. [25:08] So if that makes you feel better. [25:12] But if you go down to 7.8 this year, we could be at 9.8 next year. [25:20] If voters decide that they want to do that, because I am not going to be one for cutting services. [25:27] And I know first responders are the most, the ones we have to have out there. [25:33] But to me, senior services, the library, the playgrounds are imported to the people out there. [25:43] Now it's not the emergency side, but it's so imported to their quality of life. [25:51] And I think you're going to see a big spike next year, and the people are going to be very unhappy. [25:56] You can give them a reduction. [25:58] Yes, 7.6, everybody's going to get a reduction and you still have a, you have some [26:04] cushion. [26:05] So if they don't pass this, of course, the people run for government or the candidates are already [26:13] saying if it does a pass, we're going to do something next to you and how you've been told [26:16] that. [26:17] So let's just say they didn't do anything. [26:20] You can do another cut next to you. [26:22] you could cut from 7.8 to 7.6 this year, maybe next year you could go to 7.3, 7.4, what [26:29] is, I mean you could keep given cuts. But if it backfires on us and we have to go up, [26:35] is not pleasant. [26:40] Mr. Chair. Yes sir. I hear both of you and both of you are making equally [26:48] good points I believe, I can see the different thoughts, so I will add mine to it. [26:56] Just the fact that if we have to go up in the future, we'll aggravate people then as not [27:04] as big a concern of mine, and I know that it will be, I'll be one of the ones running [27:10] next, and so likely that would come in a political year, I don't care, if we can, and [27:19] We keep the last column as commissioner burrows, but it was that median number, which I don't think that word was used correctly. [27:28] I don't think it's actually a median statistically speaking, but anyhow, that last derived number, the 7.4691. [27:39] For rounding, say, 7.5 still has us with a half a million over and above, which is a reasonable reserve addition. [27:50] And would give, I believe, our citizens, their best break that we can afford at this time. [27:59] And again, if we have to go up there after and it gets all of our butts beat, so be it. [28:05] There are things to do now for this 2627 budget is to do what's right by this 2627 budget. [28:14] Just as we ask the sheriff to do, just as we ask the clerk to do, [28:22] that's my fault. [28:23] So you're saying you would consider 7.5. [28:26] 7.5 would be the number that I'd like to see. That's that's three tenths of a mill, all. [28:32] I'm just a minute for discussion. [28:34] Yeah, I know. Give me the difference between that and I would do 7.5. [28:38] I mean, I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. I'm not going. [28:41] I would be comfortable with that. [28:43] Commissioner Nikola? [28:46] Okay. [28:46] That's a compromise. [28:48] And I think I'm so proud of this more. [28:50] We compromise and work on things like that. [28:52] I'm a big world. [28:54] You mean, men? [28:55] Men, men, men, men, men. [28:56] You're always... [28:58] You're a habit duck. [29:03] But then the leg was still a lovey joke. [29:05] Well, you know, I appreciate the compromise. [29:08] But you know, sometimes when I do numbers up here constantly, [29:13] and the point that really gets me a little bit. [29:17] And I know the 75 is a good number. [29:19] I just don't want to end up doing an exercise that is meaningless. [29:24] It's all. [29:25] Would you like to put that into form of emotion? [29:27] No, we don't need to motion. [29:28] Let's not just the word stop, it's just the word stop. [29:31] This is a word stop. [29:31] So because we are working with the recommendations, it is a step for us to try. [29:34] You know, if we have a firing and the courthouse, we are going to bring it down, we can come back [29:39] in the just. [29:41] So we want me to go and grow out for a while. [29:44] Well, that's a recommendation at this point, we are going to shoot forward. [29:48] And obviously your number's might change, we haven't seen the final product yet, but for [29:53] discussion, say, I think that that number, that's, [30:00] And it looks better and it's easier to tell your constituents, say, what a joke I'm down to on the [30:04] middle of it, but we came down from 7875. Not we came down from 787. 0.4695. [30:12] I'm a program for 7.469. [30:16] Commissioner. [30:19] What is the date the budget is going to be finally done? [30:23] Or excuse me, the audit. [30:25] I'm sorry. [30:25] I'm sorry. [30:27] Because you made a comment about somebody's number [30:29] or like floating. [30:30] That could be January. [30:33] Okay. [30:34] The date. [30:34] I'm sorry. [30:35] Can you repeat the question? [30:36] One is the audit supposed to be done. [30:39] Right now we are challenging some findings. [30:42] That they presented to us, so I believe we should see it sometime next week once we get through this. [30:52] So we may even have that before our meeting on the 23rd, we hope to have it. [30:57] Yes. [30:57] That makes a big difference. [30:59] Yep. [30:59] That's all it's done. [31:02] That's reason I'm asking that question. [31:05] Because if I don't, you know, we can do whatever we want here like with it, with the millage, [31:10] but we're shooting in the dark when the artist's not done and we know, and I'm talking [31:16] from me personally, I mean, these guys, there's four of us up here, four between outside [31:23] of me. [31:24] For additional lessons, four additional plus me, okay? [31:28] You and there's another part of me, I'm four, so my point was, is that I don't want to [31:33] and not know my bottom line number, that's a bigger issue for me. [31:39] With the third just in Justin Nelson, it showed me that his accounts are there, so I'm comfortable with it. [31:46] Okay, can I ask one more question? This is not on the budget. [31:49] Really necessary. [31:50] Well really it is because I need to close out the airport issue. [31:55] I thought to Department of Commerce yesterday that $300,000 grant is not closed out yet. [32:03] Yes, or I'll find out for sure, we've sent them all the close out information, the problem was we had a line item that could not be invoiced. [32:13] So, we had to modify the grant agreement to take that out. So, it should be... [32:20] What's your question? [32:21] She told me yesterday, because our residents come out, we're trying to do another riff grant for the water main to the industrial park office 70. [32:29] And so I've got three grants in Riff, right at present time. [32:34] I can close this one out. [32:37] There's not a problem of having more of the grants than for [32:40] Okay, shall be counted in three. [32:42] But I'd like to get that one closed out because it's. [32:45] And just Commissioner, so you're where we're we're applying for one for the [32:50] construction of that project also. [32:52] I did not know there was another one. [32:54] Okay. [32:55] I just want to make sure you understand. [32:56] we were applying also because the odds of us getting that grant based off of our grant rider [33:03] with riff is very good for us to get the money. I think there's 24, 27 million out there. [33:11] 27. 27. Yes, sir. And we're putting in for 5.6, I think, and hopes that we would get phase [33:18] 1, which is about 1.79. So a little under 1.8. [33:24] We can close that. We can get that one closed out that would help me on another issue. I'm dealing with a department of commerce if you would. [33:31] Yes, sir. I will get with the grants department just make sure what we've got left, but I think it was just we were waiting on them to do the modification. [33:39] It was it out. [33:40] It was adcon. Yeah, adcon was she told me as to have adcon has not given me information. [33:49] Thank you. [33:49] What else? Madam Administrator. [33:51] That is all, sir. [33:52] I just wanted to say thank you to our staff, thank you to you all and for your support and [33:58] understanding as we move through this budget process knowing that there's still some [34:02] values that we are waiting for confirmation on. [34:05] So thank you to everyone. [34:07] So technically this is the last day we have schedule. [34:10] If it's necessary, we will come back and have another one or we can do it on a day of a [34:16] counter-commissioning meeting. [34:17] So feel free to do whatever you need to do for your time. [34:20] Thank you. [34:20] time to do that. I just want to say thank you to the board and to the staff and the [34:26] constitutional. Sometimes it is hectic, hectic, but we're all about Okotubi and when [34:33] it's all over the list we're all still going to be friends and I call it a big family. [34:38] So, thank you, we're adjourned.