[0:09] We're talking to Welcome
[0:14] back to the budget workshop.
[0:15] >> Make the same coming up.
[0:16] Made every day. We do not have
[0:20] public comment at this time
[0:21] because as a workshop, but we
[0:22] do anyone that wants to speak.
[0:23] If you raise your hand like a
[0:25] Stephen, whatever we're always
[0:26] allowed speak as long some
[0:28] part to his situation. I would
[0:30] like to make one comment about
[0:34] the situation yesterday. You
[0:35] know, I know the last names
[0:37] most everybody in this room.
[0:38] And a lot of people in
[0:42] Okeechobee. And I don't know
[0:43] that any of us at our
[0:43] ancestors were there to meet
[0:47] the Mayflower. I think we're
[0:47] all somewhat implants.
[0:49] Temperature be so that's just
[0:58] my thought. Thought for today.
[0:58] Commissioner Carter, would you
[0:59] lead us in prayer and
[1:00] commissioner, good vantage
[1:00] flag salute. Please. It's a
[1:05] war.
[1:05] >> Barely. Father GOD, we
[1:08] thank you for this day.
[1:09] Keeping a safe and healthy
[1:10] lord. We just ask that you
[1:11] would. Be with us through
[1:15] this. Weekend. Lord, keep us
[1:16] safe. Also, Lord, be with us
[1:20] as finalize budget, Florida.
[1:23] And I was just thank you again
[1:24] for your many blessings.
[1:32] Father.
[1:34] >> a pledge allegiance to the
[1:36] flag. A United States of
[1:37] America and to Republic for
[1:41] which it stands. One nation
[1:42] under indivisible, with
[1:46] liberty and justice for all.
[1:47] Thank you, gentlemen. Why
[1:50] folks?
[1:56] >> Jessica, What she plans.
[1:57] >> Did we want to start with
[1:58] the presentation or did we
[2:01] want to start with The
[2:06] Constitutional
[2:06] >> We can do the
[2:07] constitutional. So if you'd
[2:11] like to. The share for the
[2:12] major, whoever's going start
[2:24] with that one. Good morning,
[2:28] Boarded.
[2:29] >> You know, a lot's been said
[2:37] upon the dice this My budget
[2:39] statutorily has to be before
[2:42] you JUNE. The first. So a
[2:45] Polish, my crystal ball and
[2:46] sharp as I can get a shiny as
[2:50] I get it. To try to forecast
[2:51] what's going to happen in
[2:53] SEPTEMBER. The following year.
[2:59] We talked about consistency.
[3:00] Well, I feel it's important to
[3:01] pay all our first responders,
[3:05] the same amount. Making it
[3:07] easier for all of us to get
[3:09] through these hard times are
[3:11] any time for that matter. And
[3:15] I always say my door is open.
[3:16] If you don't understand, you
[3:19] don't know something. Laying
[3:21] on my 40 years of
[3:25] institutional knowledge. My 26
[3:26] years of being an
[3:26] administrator working on this.
[3:29] But my 10 years being your
[3:33] share. I feel like I've been
[3:35] disrespected. And it bothers
[3:43] me. What I hear. Some of you,
[3:47] you 5. Have to answer to the
[3:48] constituents. So does every
[3:52] other constitution. We have a
[3:55] a valuation every 4 years. If
[3:58] they're not happy. Which it
[4:05] should be. But that said. I
[4:07] still a 3rd of what I did. And
[4:11] my people do. For you. Fi. For
[4:14] our constituents. And
[4:17] everybody as Ron stuff. That
[4:20] is your obligation. That it's
[4:23] under your purview. That saves
[4:26] us all money because it's
[4:29] under my purview and the
[4:30] structure that we have with
[4:32] our sheriffs office. Because
[4:33] there's nobody better to do
[4:36] that. The me and my people.
[4:39] But hey, here. That we're not
[4:42] respected. I feel that that's
[4:46] how it was present. The lack
[4:47] of anybody coming to me and
[4:48] talking to made to say, hey,
[4:51] let's do 5%. I can't polish
[4:52] that Crystal Ball player in a
[4:54] to tell me what you you're my
[4:58] I've got to hear from. Moving
[5:04] forward. We can do that. I've
[5:05] heard of listen. I've got
[5:07] upset in the same breath I've
[5:10] taken the fluff. I've taken
[5:14] the reserve. We've been all
[5:15] over the place over my 26
[5:15] years of being minister in
[5:17] this budget. From three-year
[5:21] actual going averages.
[5:21] Shooting from the hip where
[5:24] we're at today. But we all
[5:27] have to communicate and we
[5:30] have not all been doing that.
[5:34] That said. I've taken my
[5:36] budget. My increase from the
[5:38] 6.1% increase down to a 5.
[5:39] Because that's the right thing
[5:44] to do. My folks are here will
[5:44] present that and appreciate
[5:51] your time. Justin, are you
[5:53] don't give a number from the
[6:03] clerk's office.
[6:04] >> Morning commissioners,
[6:05] believe you guys all received
[6:10] an e-mail from the clerk
[6:10] yesterday. Going with this
[6:11] we're not going away to
[6:12] different. Just tell us the
[6:13] numbers I just want to let you
[6:14] know that he regrets that he
[6:18] can't be here we also have for
[6:19] our budget down to the 5%. As
[6:21] you guys have requested.
[6:22] >> And our total number now
[6:29] is. 3 Million. $61,919. That's
[6:30] a decrease of 32,009, 7, 1,
[6:34] from the previous year.
[6:38] >> Thank you so much, Any
[6:39] questions? No, we appreciate
[6:56] working with us. As Jessica.
[6:57] Thank you for not going to
[7:00] side did today.
[7:05] >> Good morning. So. Her
[7:06] presentation today is a
[7:08] wrap-up of all the requested
[7:09] items that were discussed the
[7:12] past couple of So we'll start.
[7:16] We're going to go any fund.
[7:17] Item manner. So we'll start
[7:21] with the administration. There
[7:22] was request to decrease the
[7:26] conference light. I line items
[7:28] so within this fund, 0, 0, one
[7:29] Dash 10, there will be a total
[7:33] savings of $800. We also have
[7:36] a few changes needed in
[7:36] person. Due to the grants
[7:39] manager position being added
[7:42] as well as the organizational
[7:44] structure being effective as
[7:47] of tomorrow. So those are just
[7:49] reallocations. So we will
[7:49] present that at the JULY 23rd
[7:53] meeting has an update on what
[7:54] the person quantity in total
[7:58] will be in the general Fund
[7:59] for administration as well as
[8:01] the different allocations
[8:02] within the additional funds
[8:05] based on position. And feel
[8:05] free to stop me at any time.
[8:13] If there's any questions. The
[8:14] truck purchase for 45,000 and
[8:17] is a 50 50 split. This is a
[8:18] Jeep Patriot replacement and
[8:18] that will be in the cip and
[8:24] the public works. Funds. We
[8:27] have the verified amount for
[8:29] the communication costs for
[8:32] the judicial 19 circuit
[8:33] judicial branch and the 103,
[8:37] fund at a from a decrease from
[8:46] 130,000 to 43,536. There was
[8:47] couple discussions on the boat
[8:50] ramp and the allocation to
[8:53] assist with that. So we will
[8:54] have 50,000 allocated to the
[8:55] Boating Improvement fund as
[8:56] well as 50,000 allocated to
[8:58] the Tourism Special Revenue
[8:59] Fund. And in addition, there
[9:00] was a discussion on removing
[9:03] the flag pole amount of
[9:03] 19,000. So that has been
[9:07] removed. And then we also for
[9:09] the remaining balance, we will
[9:10] have the pavilion and boat
[9:13] ramp restroom still included.
[9:13] So that will bring the
[9:17] breakdown for the Boating
[9:19] improvement fund as follows.
[9:21] With still remaining at the
[9:23] 128,009, 10. So you'll have
[9:26] 19, not excuse me. 59,400 and
[9:29] reserves. And that's to repair
[9:31] any waterway markers when
[9:33] needed. You'll have 50,000
[9:34] allocated to the boat ramp and
[9:35] then 19,500 for the 2
[9:44] restrooms. For fleet services.
[9:45] There is a question on the
[9:47] increase on why it was so
[9:49] high. So from the amended, the
[9:50] actual increase will be the
[9:51] same as the other departments
[9:54] at 7%. The amended amount in
[9:57] the fiscal year, column was
[9:58] incorrect and that will be
[10:01] adjusted during the mid here.
[10:02] So it only show the 7% as
[10:11] other department show.
[10:12] Additional notes and updates.
[10:14] So we have parks and
[10:15] recreation sports complex. So
[10:16] we are purchasing that gator
[10:17] utility cart that was
[10:19] discussed this fiscal year. So
[10:22] their that won't need a
[10:23] replacement forthcoming. And
[10:25] then in senior services were
[10:26] purchasing. There was a
[10:27] discussion on 3 vans. 3
[10:28] transit vans needing
[10:30] replacement fiscal year. 28.
[10:31] So to stagger that we're
[10:33] purchasing one this fiscal
[10:34] year budgeting for one next
[10:37] fiscal year. And then fiscal
[10:38] year. 28, there will be one
[10:41] budget as well. So that
[10:43] provides that stagger versus
[10:43] all 3 needing replacement in
[10:48] 2028. For the airport. There
[10:49] was a comment on the emergency
[10:51] repairs, a corrective
[10:53] maintenance that has been
[10:54] that's just a ver budget. It's
[10:55] routine maintenance. So that
[11:00] has been reflected and changed
[11:01] for economic development. The
[11:03] bright marked contractors 3
[11:04] remaining, including fiscal
[11:05] year 27. So after fiscal year
[11:08] 27, only be 2 years and for
[11:10] the cip find the interest
[11:13] including profit is just an
[11:13] interest to count again.
[11:15] That's just a verbiage there.
[11:19] That will changed as well. And
[11:20] then general discussion, we
[11:23] have that was discussed to
[11:25] maybe do a workshop with them.
[11:26] But all have Justin Nelson
[11:28] chime in here a little bit on
[11:30] what the plan is to get those
[11:37] rates down a little bit. Thank
[11:40] you, Jessica. So
[11:43] >> we have in the work plan We
[11:46] have a proper expense line and
[11:49] cip and moving into next year.
[11:52] We had 2 site locations that
[11:54] are on city area, gay or
[11:57] should say city. Water for
[11:57] irrigation that were already
[12:00] designated to be have wells
[12:03] put in those 2 sites this year
[12:04] this year come this next
[12:05] budget year. Coming up, I
[12:07] should say not this year we're
[12:09] now and those 2 sites. We did
[12:11] not have the library in there
[12:13] yet because the library has
[12:14] normally been a little bit
[12:17] less than the other 2. But we
[12:18] are now looking at library.
[12:20] And if I can find the funding
[12:23] within my budget that we've
[12:24] already presented. We will get
[12:25] the library one done, too. But
[12:29] most of those high rates that
[12:30] we've seen in the one that's
[12:32] the 800 a month is the
[12:34] irrigation line at the
[12:36] library. It's not the fired
[12:39] and no, sir, the fire. The
[12:40] fire is that's flat rate and
[12:41] it does not have any
[12:42] consumption, but it it is
[12:44] still at a flat rate and it's
[12:45] based off the based off meter
[12:46] size and all of that. And I
[12:48] have the full breakdown of the
[12:53] chart of what we pay. Those
[12:55] hire 100 is for fire
[12:56] suppression or is shows 100.
[12:57] Was noted in there is the
[13:00] irrigation. Way with that. So
[13:03] was the fire coast us.
[13:04] >> I would have to go back and
[13:07] pull that Exactly goes and
[13:08] talking to some of the board
[13:10] of directors of their their
[13:12] >> They want work closely with
[13:12] the county and the and
[13:13] hopefully this can change very
[13:17] shortly with the. Change in
[13:18] management. Yes, And that's we
[13:21] have the workshop. I would
[13:22] love to see what we can do
[13:24] reduce some of those utility
[13:27] costs. So we've got we've got
[13:28] some significantly high ones
[13:30] that are base rates. So we've
[13:31] got we've got a handful of
[13:33] them that. Just the base rate
[13:37] is. Around $3,000 a month. I
[13:39] would love to see. Let's work
[13:41] on that. If there's a way.
[13:45] >> So what will continue?
[13:46] >> Getting an evaluation and
[13:47] analysis on the fire
[13:50] suppression matter. But just
[13:51] wanting to clarify that 800
[13:53] wasn't for irrigation and then
[13:54] we'll work with to maybe get a
[13:54] workshop to my wellness
[13:57] update.
[13:58] >> Bring me up to date on the
[14:01] conversation about the Dede
[14:06] from them. Did you say in our?
[14:07] On our day? It's now ready to
[14:09] go back. What are we doing on
[14:10] that? I actually sent that to
[14:12] you. We had a meeting with
[14:13] legal yesterday just to go
[14:15] through myself. Chief hastily
[14:16] and the administrator we met
[14:19] with legal yesterday. The
[14:20] administrator had found a few
[14:22] items that I had missed. And
[14:25] we've made those corrections.
[14:25] We sent that over to MR. Hay
[14:27] for Dan MR. Kennedy this
[14:29] morning, our goal is we're
[14:31] going to bring that and from
[14:32] the board as we have revised
[14:36] it on the 23rd meeting to our
[14:37] board, we're trying to get
[14:38] them to take in front of their
[14:38] board they have a meeting on
[14:41] the 20th. So the request is
[14:42] for them to try to get that in
[14:43] front of their board on that
[14:46] by the 20th. And this is a
[14:46] document, their turn prepared.
[14:50] And now you've yester. We just
[14:51] redlined it. That doesn't mean
[14:55] it's a simple. Simple transfer
[14:55] over the revision. If you
[14:57] don't building some many days,
[14:58] I mean, I can put that in half
[14:59] the paragraph Yester some
[15:02] there's there's a lot of back
[15:03] and forth. The nation
[15:04] documentation that the time
[15:05] game. But we need to simplify
[15:09] and we just went and read them
[15:10] to him. Please don't think I'm
[15:13] coming But I go back to your
[15:14] comment yesterday. One of the
[15:15] one day this week or Internet
[15:16] when we were talking about
[15:20] moving forward with the the
[15:21] fire station. And you said
[15:22] we've got to get this out of
[15:26] the way. Will hopefully this
[15:28] is going to compete in next in
[15:29] 15 days my weekend. So then
[15:30] you can do your job. Yes, our
[15:31] chair and my request an email
[15:32] this morning still have this
[15:33] thing closed by the end of the
[15:34] month to have our clothes that
[15:35] have just closed out by the
[15:38] end of the month. So the goal
[15:39] at the JULY 23rd meeting is
[15:42] that as long what we've sent
[15:43] back, there's no further
[15:46] changes has.
[15:47] >> Is to have the chair sign.
[15:47] Once we received the signed
[15:51] copy from so JULY 23rd as long
[15:52] as we received the signed copy
[15:55] before or after that date and
[15:57] there's no changes we should
[15:57] be able to have your signature
[15:59] and move forward long as it's
[16:00] approved by the remaining
[16:00] board.
[16:03] >> If you give us a copy what
[16:04] you think it won't. And we
[16:05] will make it a point to attend
[16:08] a meeting. Yes, sir. So I'm
[16:08] not sure that the management
[16:10] change it and I'd rather it
[16:14] didn't get delayed. Yes, sir.
[16:14] Definitely can get your copy
[16:16] of that. Thank you so much.
[16:23] Okay. Just ok?
[16:24] >> So the slide here is
[16:26] discussing the mileage
[16:26] scenarios at the JULY 23rd
[16:27] meeting. We do have to set the
[16:29] tentative millage rate as well
[16:32] as a special assessment rate.
[16:33] But this is in regards to the
[16:36] mileage scenarios are based on
[16:37] our taxable value of the
[16:41] 5 Billion. As you see in that
[16:46] first. Table there, it shows
[16:49] our current fiscal year. 25 26
[16:50] at 7.8 to give you perspective
[16:52] as well as what is in the
[16:55] proposed fiscal year. 26 27
[16:55] budget book because we
[16:57] received the updated taxable
[16:58] value after the budget book
[17:01] was prepared. So this gives
[17:03] you an overview and I will be
[17:06] happy to answer any questions
[17:09] for discussion on this item.
[17:11] >> I can see Tell you with the
[17:12] thought that it could have You
[17:13] have a ups. Are you have a
[17:15] copy in front of you as well?
[17:21] I apologize. Just thank you.
[17:23] When we started on Monday
[17:25] before there were these
[17:26] reductions in a couple of
[17:28] additions. You said doing the
[17:34] 7 point. 4 states, 9, 1,
[17:35] What's going to have roughly
[17:35] half a million dollars or so
[17:38] to the good. Have you
[17:40] recalculated that number with
[17:44] the reductions? And additions
[17:46] you have that number now
[17:47] called up.
[17:48] >> We do not at this time
[17:49] because we are still there.
[17:51] Still some values that are
[17:52] being treated up where are
[17:54] still pending the audit to
[17:54] update the cash balance
[17:55] forward. So we did not want to
[17:58] provide you with an inaccurate
[17:58] number because there could be
[18:02] some fluctuations and that as
[18:03] well obtaining the revenues
[18:05] that we're receiving from the
[18:07] state. As far as the small
[18:08] county surtax, those items are
[18:12] usually are provided mid-JULY.
[18:14] So wish there's still some
[18:15] numbers here were just
[18:16] estimating, but there's still
[18:18] some numbers that are needing
[18:19] a true value. But generally
[18:20] everything has gone to the
[18:23] good.
[18:24] >> But with the exception of
[18:26] adding on bond, the gator. Go
[18:28] ahead and buy in the suv this
[18:29] year. Everything else has been
[18:33] a reduction. Based off the
[18:34] numbers we started with on
[18:36] Monday.
[18:38] >> Yes, there has been a few
[18:40] reductions yester. So
[18:42] generally speaking.
[18:42] >> We're we're not worse off
[18:43] of anything. We're better off
[18:44] than we were as of Monday as
[18:50] far as thank
[18:51] >> To do this this point you
[18:54] won't know Stu, just take
[18:57] which religion where we're
[18:58] looking know, just discussion
[19:01] at this point because that
[19:04] mileage will be set at the
[19:06] JULY 23rd Lisa, are needing to
[19:07] know that before that date to
[19:11] update the budget book or
[19:12] >> now, ok, please should we
[19:14] should? I mean, we should. I
[19:15] mean, can always cut and can
[19:16] always until the hearing it
[19:16] can go up or down. What should
[19:19] you do? Can't do that. But I
[19:20] mean, probably be a for our
[19:20] sake. We should have a
[19:24] discussion which we were going
[19:26] Don't you think, commissioner,
[19:27] carry it just doesn't go ahead
[19:28] and give you a tentative
[19:29] number today. Okay. Well, they
[19:32] do it MR. CHAIRMAN.
[19:32] >> I think only problem they
[19:36] have right now is it. I'm
[19:38] still at the 7.4 know that
[19:39] based on the fact of the
[19:42] calculations here. Given what
[19:44] we have today on the budget,
[19:47] that's $503, $50500,000. More
[19:51] than what we need. So given
[19:54] that I think it's going to be
[19:55] less. I mean, we're gonna have
[19:55] more money than what we need
[19:56] here. Still like to 7.4, but
[19:59] issue is I'd like to see the I
[20:00] like to see the final budget.
[20:05] But a number. Ensure that. And
[20:08] MR. Chair. Yes,
[20:09] >> Commissioner Burrows, you
[20:12] mean the 7.0? 4, 6, 9, 1, I'm
[20:16] sorry. You mean the 7.4, 6, 9,
[20:19] not 7.4.
[20:22] >> just give the last the last
[20:22] column make sure because were
[20:24] going like the last call
[20:25] because I don't want to raise
[20:27] taxes, but I wanted to see. I
[20:28] think your numbers. I think
[20:32] you're. If you're number that
[20:34] we walked in here on Monday.
[20:41] He's going to be less. All
[20:42] right. So with that, that's
[20:42] going to be more money than
[20:43] the $503,115. You got city
[20:47] here. And then that just goes
[20:48] back. And then you're sitting
[20:54] at 35.7, 7% in your. Reserves.
[20:55] >> But keep in mind, no matter
[20:58] which one of these numbers you
[20:59] choose, it doesn't raise taxes
[21:00] unless your Mont went up. If
[21:02] you stay with us. 7.8 in my
[21:03] vacating doing that initial
[21:04] assessment. What up your
[21:05] taxes? Don't go up.
[21:09] >> Well, it just means it. We
[21:10] collect more money.
[21:10] Absolutely. But your taxes
[21:11] don't go up on your home
[21:13] unless your assessment went up
[21:13] and we know the assessments
[21:17] went up. What they did, but we
[21:17] have loved ones on there.
[21:21] Also. Well, I'm just saying
[21:22] they up every year in certain
[21:23] areas, I mean, he he worked.
[21:24] He MAY work it work in my
[21:27] neighborhood right now. You
[21:27] know, and also re special
[21:30] assessments went up as well.
[21:30] So even if everything was
[21:33] equal on the top of the lawn,
[21:34] the total tax bill would be
[21:37] higher based on the fact
[21:39] special shows. Lines I got
[21:41] that. But I still think in in
[21:42] the long run we start trying
[21:42] to lower mileage is a
[21:43] different perspective to
[21:44] people in the mine keep keep
[21:48] this in some iPhone se got
[21:49] 7.8. Now you're just click to
[21:51] 2 million more dollars. Almost
[21:51] 2 Million. Almost 2.1 million
[21:52] dollars more than what you
[21:56] need. If that's the case and
[21:57] we even go through go through
[21:59] the with clerk court and the
[22:00] sheriff? Well, I would just
[22:02] give them what they want and
[22:05] we would have that problem.
[22:05] Mean, that's ridiculous.
[22:09] Exercise. We're going to go
[22:12] stay with go. Stay with the
[22:12] millage. It's about what I'm
[22:13] not asking that. Just think
[22:14] there's an article Memphis.
[22:16] Let me finish. If you're going
[22:18] to stay with same mileage. Are
[22:22] investors thought process. And
[22:22] while we in this silly
[22:24] exercise. Commissioner,
[22:25] please, I did not advocate
[22:27] that I just for the record. If
[22:31] you stay at 7.8 on my house
[22:31] other than a special
[22:32] assessments of my assessment
[22:33] in go up and because they're
[22:34] doing it right now, so did my
[22:35] taxes would not go up.
[22:37] >> I'm not advocating being
[22:39] there. I'm just trying to
[22:42] state the facts. If you go to
[22:43] 7 point for most, everybody is
[22:43] going to get a reduction
[22:45] unless there a new new
[22:46] construction or something like
[22:48] If you go in the middle, then
[22:49] most everybody is going get a
[22:55] reduction. Also. You are
[22:56] talking.
[23:02] >> We're doing this.
[23:03] >> We do that law. I know
[23:04] reminds me of Monday morning,
[23:07] little So Let let me to back
[23:09] it up. I agree with you on one
[23:13] side. What you just said. What
[23:15] I'm saying is we went through
[23:16] this. We went through this
[23:19] whole last 3 days in order to
[23:20] get a budget down to something
[23:24] that was reasonable. If the
[23:25] clerk of court and the
[23:32] sheriff. 5%. If I sitting on
[23:37] their shoes. And I sit there
[23:37] and say, us how say
[23:43] hypothetically, we say 7.6.
[23:44] Because 1.1 million dollars
[23:49] more. Than what we need.
[23:51] Sitting in their shoes. Look
[23:55] at Superior. What do we go
[23:58] through the exercise? That's
[24:04] my point. All I'm saying is if
[24:04] you go down to some to what
[24:06] you basically need. Take care
[24:09] of the budget and that that
[24:12] 7.4 right now without these
[24:15] additions. You half a million
[24:21] dollars for. 2 Million. 1.6,
[24:26] not 650. So that's my point. I
[24:26] agree with you and assessed
[24:29] values all that stuff. Think
[24:35] back when. 8 years we could
[24:37] and mileage. Next year we came
[24:38] back in got spanked because we
[24:41] couldn't pay their bills. So
[24:41] we had had to do that. And the
[24:45] people.
[24:46] >> Really get upset when you
[24:47] raise the mileage. And I don't
[24:48] I don't like it either. You
[24:53] know. We don't know what next
[24:54] year's going bring. We have a
[24:54] good idea that is going take a
[24:59] lot away. If you click if you
[24:59] give a buddy reduction, I'm
[25:01] just saying and this self
[25:02] cover. So you give everybody
[25:04] reduction in their Texas and
[25:06] you still have amount. You
[25:07] have amount of reserves and I
[25:08] know you don't pay tax at a
[25:09] reserve, but you can always
[25:10] put it back in the landfill.
[25:12] Trust and therefore, you're
[25:13] not you when you have to take
[25:14] it out of the to pay your
[25:15] bills, you're not taking that
[25:16] reserve. So if that makes you
[25:19] feel better, but if you go
[25:22] down to 7.8 this year. We
[25:27] could be at 9.8 next year.
[25:28] This said that they want to do
[25:30] that because I am not going to
[25:35] be one for cutting service.
[25:36] And I know first responders
[25:37] are the most the once we have
[25:40] to have out there. But to me,
[25:43] senior services. The library.
[25:46] Playgrounds. Or import it to
[25:50] the people. Out there. You
[25:51] know, now it's not the
[25:52] emergency side of it, but so
[25:53] important to their quality of
[25:58] life. Think you go see a big
[26:02] spike next year and people are
[26:02] going to be very unhappy. You
[26:05] can give them a reduction. Is
[26:08] 7.6, but it's going get. Get a
[26:09] reduction and you still have
[26:14] You have some cushion. So if
[26:15] they don't pass this course,
[26:19] there are the people run for
[26:20] governor. The candidates
[26:21] always saying doesn't pass,
[26:21] we're gonna do something next
[26:22] year and how you've been to
[26:24] that. So. But let's just say
[26:27] they didn't do anything. You
[26:28] could do another cut next
[26:30] year. You can do this. You
[26:33] could cut from from 7.8, 7 0.6
[26:34] issue. Maybe next year. It
[26:36] could go to 7.3, 7.4. What is
[26:38] man you could keep given cuts?
[26:39] It backfires on us and we have
[26:49] to go up is not pleasant. Hear
[26:51] both of you. And both of you
[26:56] are making. Equally good
[26:57] points. Believe I can. I can
[26:59] see the different thoughts.
[27:04] >> So I will on to it. Just
[27:04] the fact that if we have to go
[27:06] up in the future. Well,
[27:10] aggravate people, then. Is not
[27:13] as big a concern of mine. And
[27:15] I know that it will be I'll be
[27:18] one of the ones running next.
[27:19] And so likely that would come
[27:23] in a political year. If we
[27:28] can. We keep the last last
[27:29] column as Commissioner
[27:33] Burrows, but sit. Was that
[27:33] median number, which I don't
[27:34] think that we're she's
[27:35] correctly. I don't think it's
[27:38] actually a median.
[27:39] Statistically speaking, but
[27:41] anyhow that that last drive
[27:46] number, the 7.0, 4, 6, 9, 1,
[27:49] For rounding sake, 7.5 still
[27:49] has us with a half a million
[27:51] over and above, which is a
[27:57] reasonable. And would give I
[28:02] believe. Our citizens, their
[28:03] best break that we can afford
[28:07] it. This time. And again, if
[28:08] if we have to go up there
[28:11] after and it gets all of our
[28:11] butts beat, so be it the right
[28:16] thing to do now for this. 26
[28:18] 27 budget is to do what's
[28:20] right by this. 26 27 budget.
[28:21] Just as we asked the sheriff
[28:23] to do. Just as we ask the
[28:32] clerk to do. That's Michael.
[28:34] You would consider 7.5, 7 0.5
[28:35] would be the number of that
[28:36] I'd like to see. That's that's
[28:40] every 10, 7 mill. All. I think
[28:41] I'm just a month for
[28:42] discussion. Give me the
[28:43] difference between that and I
[28:45] would do. 75.
[28:47] >> I mean, I'm not argue the
[28:48] rebels. I would be comfortable
[28:54] with that. Commissioner Karla.
[28:56] Okay. That's a compromise. And
[28:57] I think so proud of this board
[28:57] compromise and work on things
[28:58] like
[29:06] >> Gore.
[29:07] >> Manning meant heart Your
[29:09] evidence.
[29:09] >> the end of the we still
[29:12] love each other.
[29:15] >> Well, you and you know, I
[29:16] appreciate compromise.
[29:17] Sometimes I do numbers appear
[29:20] constantly and those 2 and
[29:24] 3.3. Get me a little bit. And
[29:25] I know the 7, 5, the number. I
[29:27] just don't want to end up.
[29:29] Doing an exercise that it's
[29:32] meaningless. That's all
[29:33] absolutely. Would you like to
[29:34] put that in the form of a
[29:37] motion that we don't need a
[29:38] motion that such as just
[29:39] written recommendation effort
[29:41] to try
[29:44] >> if you have a fire in a
[29:44] court house burned down can
[29:47] come back and just so. Well,
[29:52] me to go grow for well. Is to
[29:53] put as a recommendation at
[29:53] this point is what we're going
[29:55] to shoot for.
[29:56] >> And obviously your numbers
[29:57] might change. We haven't seen
[30:00] the final product yet. But for
[30:01] discussions say that, think
[30:04] that that number, that's
[30:07] Justin Scotia over that median
[30:08] number. And it looks better
[30:09] and it's easier to tell your
[30:11] with Joe come down to in the
[30:13] mileage. Came down from 7, 8,
[30:17] 7, 5, We came down from 7, 8,
[30:22] to 7 0.4, 6, 9, program for
[30:23] 7.4, 6,
[30:25] >> Commissioner, what is what
[30:27] is the date? The budget's
[30:29] going to be finally done?
[30:30] Excuse me, the audit. I'm
[30:34] sorry of the I'm sorry. Just
[30:35] because you made a comment
[30:36] about some of these numbers
[30:37] are like clothing that could
[30:41] be JANUARY.
[30:42] >> The date I'm sorry. Can you
[30:43] repeat the question? It what
[30:43] is the odd it?
[30:45] >> Supposed to be done right
[30:48] now? We are.
[30:50] >> Challenging some findings
[30:52] that they presented to us. So
[30:54] I believe we should see it
[30:56] sometime next week. Once we
[30:59] get through this.
[31:00] >> So we MAY even have that
[31:01] before meeting with 23rd. We
[31:04] hope to have that. Yes, makes
[31:09] a big difference. But all that
[31:09] That reason I'm asking that
[31:14] question. Because if I don't
[31:15] you know, we can do. We can do
[31:15] whatever we want your life
[31:16] with the mileage. But
[31:20] >> we're shooting and the in
[31:21] the dark when the Dodgers not
[31:22] done, we don't. And I don't.
[31:24] I'm talking for me of these
[31:25] guys. There's 4 of us up
[31:33] there. Or between outside of
[31:37] for additional losses up 4
[31:38] additional the be in my point
[31:39] was, is I don't want to sit
[31:39] here and
[31:43] >> And not know my bottom line
[31:44] number, that's that's a bigger
[31:49] issue for me. So 3rd, Justin
[31:50] Justin Nelson ensured me that
[31:50] his account or they're so
[31:55] comfortable with it.
[31:55] >> Could I ask one more quick?
[31:57] This is all this is it is not
[31:58] in the budget bill is
[31:59] necessary. Well, really, it is
[31:59] because I need I need to close
[32:02] out the airport issue. Okay.
[32:03] Talked to department com or
[32:06] just today. That $300,000
[32:07] Grant, it's not closed out
[32:11] yet.
[32:13] >> Yes, all find out for sure.
[32:14] We've we've sent them all the
[32:15] clothes out information. The
[32:16] problem was we had a line item
[32:21] that could not be and So we
[32:22] had to modify the grant
[32:24] agreement to take that out. So
[32:28] it should be she at the end of
[32:29] it. She told yesterday because
[32:30] reason it's come about,
[32:34] >> we're trying to do another
[32:34] grant for the water main to
[32:39] the industrial park off a 70.
[32:41] And so I've got 3 grants in in
[32:41] referring to present time
[32:44] close this one out. There's
[32:46] not there's not a having more.
[32:47] Grants them for Okeechobee
[32:49] County than 3. But I like to
[32:50] get that one closed out
[32:54] because and just commissioner.
[32:56] So you're where where we are
[32:57] applying for one for the
[32:58] construction of that project.
[33:01] Also.
[33:02] >> know there's another one.
[33:03] Okay. Okay. I just want to
[33:04] make sure you understand. We
[33:08] were applying also because the
[33:09] odds of us getting that grant
[33:12] based off of our grant writer
[33:13] with riff is very good press
[33:20] to get the money. I think 24
[33:20] 27 million out there. 27 27
[33:24] yester. We're putting in for
[33:26] 5.6. I think and hopes that we
[33:28] would get phase one, which is
[33:32] about 1.7 9. So a little under
[33:32] one we can pose a swing at
[33:35] that one closed out that would
[33:36] help me on. Another issue, I'm
[33:39] dealing with the Department of
[33:40] Commerce, a key us or without
[33:41] I will get with the grants
[33:42] department. Just make sure
[33:43] what we've got left. But I
[33:44] think it was just we are
[33:48] waiting on them to do the
[33:49] modification that was about it
[33:50] was at Cannes become was she
[33:50] told me is have conned his
[33:51] night, give them any
[33:53] information.
[33:59] >> What else, administrator?
[34:00] >> That is all surges wanted
[34:01] to say. Thank you to our
[34:05] staff. Thank you to you all
[34:05] and for your support and
[34:07] understanding as we move
[34:08] through this budget process,
[34:09] knowing that there's still
[34:10] some values that we we are
[34:11] waiting for confirmation on.
[34:11] So.
[34:15] >> Thank you to everyone.
[34:16] >> So technically, this is the
[34:17] last day we have schedule if
[34:19] it's necessary. We will come
[34:20] back and have another one or
[34:22] we can do it on the day of the
[34:24] county commissioner meeting.
[34:25] So feel free to do what if you
[34:26] need to do for your time.
[34:30] Thank to that. And I just I
[34:31] just want to say thank you to
[34:34] the board to the staff and the
[34:35] constitutional Sometimes it
[34:39] gets head kick tick. But we're
[34:40] all about a be in. And then
[34:42] when when this all of which
[34:43] will still be friends and i