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>> like to call tonight meeting

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to order.

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please join me in the pledge of

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allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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all.

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>> I'll take a moment to

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acknowledge we have a quorum

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present with seven of nine

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commissioners in attendance.

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I think the other two will

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still be here before we get too

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far into the agenda.

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want to thank everyone for

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attending the meeting as well

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as those watching online.

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planning commission meetings

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are a important part of the

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process for interpreting, and

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applying the city comprehensive

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plan and unified development

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ordinance.

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it is important our meetings

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are connected with dignity and

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respect.

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this applies to every person in

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attendance.

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we strive to provide where

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ideas and opinions of all

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participants are held in the

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highest regard.

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finally, the actions on the

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issues we discuss are

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ultimately under the

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responsibility of the city

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council.

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as planning commission, we are

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here to help the council as

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elected representatives to be

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fully informed to make the best

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choices for our city.

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by statute, the planning

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commission strives to not

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engage with any party on the

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issues on the agenda prior to

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our meeting.

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should that interaction take

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place as a result of a business

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relationship or any other

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interaction, which referred to

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as ex parte communication,

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commissioners will report the

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interaction when we reach that

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item in the agenda.

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we'll move to the consent

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agenda.

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there are two items consent

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these are considered routine by

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the planning commission.

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approved in one motion.

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there is no public hearing for

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items on the consent agenda and

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there is no discussion unless

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removed from the agenda and

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considered separately.

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commissioners, do you see

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anything on the consent agenda

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you like to pull for additional

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information or questions from

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seeing none, do I have a motion

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for the consent agenda, please?

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>> mr. Chair, I move to approve

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the consent agenda as written.

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>> thank you commissioner

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corcoran.

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do I have a second?

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>> thank you commissioner

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brown.

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all in favor aye.

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regular agenda and public

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hearings.

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this evening we have five

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scheduled public hearings.

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for the first public hearing, a

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continuance has been requested.

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when a case is submitted or

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scheduled for continuance, the

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public hearing will not be

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comments, recommendations or

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analysis on the case isn't

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public hearing is officially

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this process insures anyone

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with interest in the case has

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the opportunity to participate.

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so, continuance is requested to

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future planning commission

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meeting for su26-0008.

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is there a motion regarding

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request?

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>> chair, I move we approve the

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continuation of su-26-0008.

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>> thank you commissioner

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chapman.

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do I have a second?

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>> thank you commissioner

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bergida.

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all in favor say aye.

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the second public hearing is

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request for the approval of

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rezoning for fun tear trails

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logistics northwest of 175 and

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u.s. 69 highway.

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mrs. Winter is here to present

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the case tonight.

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go ahead, lauren.

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>> good evening commissioners.

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lauren winter, planner 2.

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as introduced is application

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before you is request to zone

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to the m2 district in site

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development plan for frontier

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trails logistics.

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the proposal consist of one

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speculative warehouse

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distribution facility.

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the site is located northwest

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of 175th street and u.s. 169

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highway with direct street

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frontage along 169 highway.

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the site is adjacent to lone

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elm park in the lineage cold

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storage facility.

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the property is undeveloped

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with existing cell tower which

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may remain as permitted by the

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udl.

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the adjacent industrial

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property is zoned to the m2

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general industrial district,

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and the subject property

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currently retains county rural

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zoning.

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the request tonight is to

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rezone to the m2 district.

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the future land use map of the

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elevate olathe comprehensive

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plan designate the property and

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much of surrounding area as

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industrial.

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the requested m2 district

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aligns with the future land use

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designation.

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in the zoning aligns with the

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goals and policies of the

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elevate olathe comprehensive

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plan, including providing mix

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of land uses within the city

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and promoting high quality

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development.

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the 70 acre site accommodate

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one warehouse with over-head

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doors facing north and south

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and the primary entrances

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facing public roadways.

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the single story warehouse will

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be just over a million square

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feet.

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two screen walls in blue

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constructed to extend the

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eastern facade to block the

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view of the overhead doors from

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169 highway.

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on site detention is located on

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the western and northern

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portions of the development,

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and additional landscaping will

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be provided to screen from

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public view.

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north/south industrial

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collector is along the west

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side of the property to provide

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to the north and south.

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four access points are shown on

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the site in red off carson

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street and gated fire access

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road off 169 highway is shown

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in orange.

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the applicant provided a

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landscape plan that meets all

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specifically, significant tree

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preservation along the west

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property line and enhanced

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buffer along the south as it is

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adjacent to future commercial

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zoning.

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the applicant is also proposing

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birming at the southeast

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corning as a additional

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screening for nearest u.s. 169

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highway.

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refinements and landscape

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details will be provided at the

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final site development plan

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that includes ground cover,

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utility screening and

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landscaping will meet the udl

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requirements.

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the building will be

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constructed of painted textured

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concrete panels in shades of

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gray with a band of blue around

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all facades.

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upper glass is provided and the

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primary facades include ground

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floor glass.

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the building meets material

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articulation requirements and

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no wavers are requested.

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the applicant met all

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neighborhood meeting was held

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july 30 with one resident in

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attendance who is the property

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owner to the north.

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the primary topic discussed at

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the meeting was future access

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to the adjacent northern

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property and the applicant

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addressed the property owner

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questions by discussing various

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access options for the proposed

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development.

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neither staff nor the applicant

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has received any correspondence

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regarding this case.

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staff recommends approval of

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the rezoning rz26-0011 to the

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m2 district with the following

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use restrictions due to the

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intensity of the use or

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reliance on outdoor storage and

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the adjacency to major

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roadways.

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the applicant is agreeable to

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the restrictions.

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staff also recommends approval

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of the site development plan

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rz26-0011.

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the applicant is agreeable to

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all stipulations listed here,

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including providing adequate

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truck staging on site to avoid

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staging on public streets, full

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screening outdoor storage and

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equipment from public view.

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this item will be considered at

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the october 6 city council

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meeting.

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this concludes my presentation.

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I'm available for any questions

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and the applicant is here as

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well, but will not be making a

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presentation.

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that was my question.

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any questions from

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commissioners?

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commissioner chapman.

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>> thank you, chair.

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ms. Winter one question, the

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property owner to the north,

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has the applicant and owner

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resolved issues with regards to

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access to his property to the

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north?

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>> yes, my understanding the

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property owner to the north is

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happy with the accommodations

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the property has made with the

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collector road.

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>> okay, thank you.

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>> uh-huh.

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>> commissioners, do you have

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additional questions?

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now open the public hearing.

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we do have one individual

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signed up for the public

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hearing.

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give you layout how it works

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which applies to all public

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hearings this evening.

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your name will be called and

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head to the podium here to your

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left.

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each person has five minutes

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start out by stating your name

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and address for the record and

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then there will be a timer over

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here on your right that

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indicate the amount of time you

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have to speak and you are

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welcome to use the full five

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minutes.

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for this particular one, we

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only have one scheduled

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speaker.

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if we have multiple speakers,

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just guidance how that will

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work when we get to that point.

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when we have multiple speakers,

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we are looking to hear new

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information on public hearings.

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all has been a lot of

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correspondence on issues

329
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tonight which have been

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available to all the

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commissioners we read through

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it in preparation for tonight's

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meeting.

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the purpose of the public

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hearing is we are looking for

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new information.

337
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what is it we haven't heard?

338
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what are we looking at that

339
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hasn't been considered?

340
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that is what we like to see

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from the speakers this evening.

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regardless which issue you may

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have shown up for.

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in saying that, if the person

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before you says the exact same

346
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thing you are going to say, it

347
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is perfectly okay to wave your

348
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right to speak as a repeating

349
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yourself doesn't-it isn't a

350
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tally this many said this in

351
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favor of this many and opposed.

352
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that isn't how it works.

353
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we just want to look at all the

354
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facts and use that information

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to make our decision.

356
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that is just guidelines how

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public hearings work.

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we do have one signed up.

359
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jacob turner, if you like to

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make your way to the podium.

361
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>> thank you all.

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jacob turner, 11000 king

363
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street.

364
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I am here representing the

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property owner to the north.

366
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167th street llc.

367
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I'm his attorney.

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he has apologize he couldn't

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come but asked me to convey a

370
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message to this commission.

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he had attended the

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neighborhood meeting and

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expressed strong concerns about

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the lack of access to his

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property, because the way he

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saw the development would have

377
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actually land locked portion of

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his property and he wouldn't

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have been able to develop it.

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he had--we had additional

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conversations with the

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applicant and the applicant he

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was pleased with the change the

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application creating the

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collector road that now will

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allow him to help develop his

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property at the time he chooses

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to develop the property in line

389
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with the comprehensive plan.

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he asked me to come explain

391
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that-sense the neighborhood

392
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meeting he is in full support

393
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as long as there a collector

394
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road or access that continues

395
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on his property to the north.

396
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that's all I have to say today.

397
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thank you.

398
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>> thank you mr. Turner.

399
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appreciate it.

400
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seeing no other speakers, do I

401
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have a motion to close the

402
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public hearing?

403
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>> so moved.

404
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>> thank you commissioner

405
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bergida.

406
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second?

407
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>> second.

408
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>> thank you commissioner

409
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terrones.

410
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all in favor say aye.

411
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opposed, nay.

412
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and the public hearing is now

413
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closed.

414
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is there any additional

415
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discussion needed on this issue

416
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commissioners for staff or the

417
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applicant?

418
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seeing none, do I have a motion

419
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on rz26-0011?

420
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>> mr. Chair, I move for

421
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approval of rz26-0011 with all

422
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stipulations and

423
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recommendations as presented by

424
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staff.

425
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>> thank you commissioner

426
00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,100
bergida.

427
00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:02,100
do I have a second?

428
00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:03,100
>> second.

429
00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:04,100
>> thank you commissioner

430
00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:05,100
brown.

431
00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:07,100
mrs. Will, will you take a roll

432
00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:08,100
call vote, please?

433
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[roll call]

434
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>> motion passes 8-0.

435
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>> we'll move to the third

436
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public hearing.

437
00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,100
request for approval of

438
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rezoning for the johnson county

439
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aggregate located southeast of

440
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151 and old 56 highway.

441
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mr. Jurey will be here this

442
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:38,100
evening to present the case.

443
00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:40,100
the rezoning portion of this,

444
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which we got several issues on

445
00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,100
this particular issue.

446
00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,100
the rezoning will be heard

447
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first fallowed by the two

448
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special use permits on this

449
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property for the subsequent

450
00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:52,100
public hearings.

451
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mr. Jurey.

452
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>> excuse me.

453
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thank you chair and planning

454
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commission.

455
00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:02,100
nathan jurey, senior planner.

456
00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,100
before I start I want to

457
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provide an overview of the next

458
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three applications as they are

459
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all interrelated, but were

460
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reviewed by staff separately

461
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and analyzed separately.

462
00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:16,100
overall, johnson county

463
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aggregate submitted rezoning

464
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request request to amend their

465
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existing special use for the

466
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existing quarry and special use

467
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to expand their existing

468
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quarry.

469
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dan jones with jca is here

470
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tonight is and brought his team

471
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including curtis peterson with

472
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polsinelli.

473
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the property is in blue on the

474
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screen here.

475
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it is owned by jca in south

476
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west olathe.

477
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the site is bound by old 56.

478
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the entire site accept for

479
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northwest corner which is

480
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outlined in purple is in the

481
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city olathe.

482
00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:05,100
jca has annexation request and

483
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the three cases before you

484
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tonight will all be heard at

485
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the october 6 city council

486
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meeting for the final decision.

487
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and just to clarify before you

488
00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,100
do ask planning commission is

489
00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:19,100
allowed to make recommendations

490
00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:21,100
on annexed property, but just

491
00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:23,100
the final decision can't occur

492
00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:25,100
until annexation happens.

493
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so, the overall property is

494
00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,100
split into two areas.

495
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what I'll call the existing

496
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quarry in yellow and expansion

497
00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:41,100
quarry in red.

498
00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,100
the existing quarry did receive

499
00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:46,401
special use approval in 1988

500
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and there was a hundred foot

501
00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,100
buffer that was required at the

502
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time shown in green on the

503
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screen.

504
00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:57,100
jca is requesting to expand the

505
00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:59,100
existing quarry and would like

506
00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:00,100
that both areas the existing

507
00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:03,100
and expansion to function as

508
00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,100
one continuous operation.

509
00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:08,100
to do that, the expansion

510
00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:11,100
quarry needs proper zoning and

511
00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,100
special use approvals.

512
00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:15,100
the existing quarry as well

513
00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:18,100
must be amended to remove the

514
00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:20,100
hundred foot setback from the

515
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expansion quarry property.

516
00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:26,100
so, all in all, jca did submit

517
00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:28,100
two special use requests, but

518
00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:31,100
they view it as one

519
00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,100
interrelated request all

520
00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,100
together.

521
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with that, I will present the

522
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rezoning first, open the public

523
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hearing, call for a vote and

524
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repeat the same process for the

525
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next two applications as well.

526
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are there any questions before

527
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,100
I move on?

528
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>> I would like just to address

529
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one thing.

530
00:17:55,100 --> 00:17:57,100
on the prior screen where it

531
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showed the expansion quarry

532
00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:02,100
existing quarry, so there was a

533
00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,100
buffer at that point?

534
00:18:03,100 --> 00:18:04,100
>> yes.

535
00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:07,100
the buffer right here was

536
00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:09,100
required from what was

537
00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:12,100
previously farm land and is

538
00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:14,100
farm land now, but in 1988 it

539
00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,100
was zoned separately and there

540
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,100
is hundred foot buffer from

541
00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:19,100
that property.

542
00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:20,100
>> alright.

543
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,100
so, if the expansion were to

544
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:24,100
take place, is there no longer

545
00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:25,100
a buffer?

546
00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:27,100
>> that is their request, yeah.

547
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:29,100
>> okay.

548
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:33,100
>> hearing nothing else, we'll

549
00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,100
get started with the rezoning

550
00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:36,100
request.

551
00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:38,401
so, the expansion quarry

552
00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:41,100
property is about 110 acres

553
00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:44,100
used as farm land at the corner

554
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:46,100
of old 56 and old 56.

555
00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:49,100
the property is currently zoned

556
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:52,100
county rural and county ag and

557
00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,100
jca is requesting to rezone to

558
00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:57,100
the agriculture district.

559
00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:59,100
this district does generally

560
00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,401
permit agriculture uses, but

561
00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:05,100
allows for some uses such as

562
00:19:05,100 --> 00:19:06,100
quarrying with special use

563
00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:07,100
approval.

564
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:08,100
so, I will stress here you do

565
00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,100
not need to consider the

566
00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:11,100
queries a part of this rezoning

567
00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:14,100
request as the quarry will be

568
00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,100
reviewed separately and

569
00:19:15,100 --> 00:19:17,100
analyzed separately as part of

570
00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,401
the special use request.

571
00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,100
the elevate olathe future land

572
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,100
use map designate the property

573
00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:26,100
as neighborhood commercial and

574
00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:28,100
business park,b however

575
00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,100
sanitary sewer isn't readily

576
00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:31,100
available to support this type

577
00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:33,100
of development as envisioned in

578
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,100
the comp plan.

579
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:39,100
the ag district is an

580
00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:40,100
appropriate zoning district as

581
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:43,601
one of the purposes is a

582
00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,100
holding zone to protect

583
00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:49,100
properties from pre-mature

584
00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,100
development.

585
00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,100
this request aligns with the

586
00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:53,100
goals and strategies of the

587
00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,100
comp plan, including land use

588
00:19:56,100 --> 00:19:59,100
1.1 strategy as the ag district

589
00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,100
will protect the area from

590
00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,401
piece-meal development for more

591
00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:09,100
contiguous growth development

592
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:10,100
in the future.

593
00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:13,100
the applicant met public notice

594
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:14,100
and neighborhood meeting

595
00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:15,100
requirements.

596
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:16,100
neighborhood meeting held in

597
00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,100
july with 44 people in

598
00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:19,100
attendance.

599
00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,100
there were a lot of questions

600
00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,100
at the meeting, but none about

601
00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:26,401
the ag district rezoning.

602
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,100
staff answered several

603
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,100
inquiries but did not receive

604
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,100
comments on rezoning request as

605
00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:34,100
well.

606
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:35,100
so, in summary, staff is

607
00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,401
supportive of the requested

608
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:39,100
rezoning to agriculture

609
00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:41,100
district with no stipulations.

610
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,100
with that, I will stand for any

611
00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:43,100
questions.

612
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,100
curtis peterson is here and

613
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:46,100
available for any questions as

614
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,100
well.

615
00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:48,100
>> thank you mr. Jurey.

616
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:50,100
commissioners, you have

617
00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,100
questions for staff regarding

618
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:52,100
rezoning?

619
00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:53,100
commissioner seeling.

620
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:54,100
>> thank you sir for the

621
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,100
presentation.

622
00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,100
my only question is simple, why

623
00:20:57,100 --> 00:21:01,100
rezone to ag and not m2 like

624
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,100
the rest of the property?

625
00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,100
>> the future land use map is

626
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,100
commercial and for business

627
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,100
park and m2 zoning doesn't

628
00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:11,100
align with that, so the

629
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,601
ag district is a better holding

630
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,100
zone to allow for the requested

631
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:20,100
use the quarry which we'll

632
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:21,100
review later.

633
00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:22,100
it does allow for that and

634
00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:25,100
holding it from any unwanted

635
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,100
development of industrial in

636
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:27,100
the area.

637
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,100
>> got you.

638
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,100
thank you.

639
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,100
>> any additional questions for

640
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,100
staff?

641
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:34,100
commissioner bergida.

642
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,100
>> commissioner seeling stole

643
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:37,100
my first question so move to

644
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,100
the second one.

645
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,601
in terms of property taxes, is

646
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:45,100
there any difference if it is

647
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:48,100
zoned ag opposed to m3?

648
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,100
>> I believe property taxes are

649
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,100
based on the use of the

650
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,100
property.

651
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:55,100
those are from the tax assessor

652
00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,100
assessment of the property.

653
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,100
>> so even though it is zoned

654
00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,100
ag it isn't taxed as ag,

655
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,100
assuming we approve the special

656
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:05,100
use permit for this property?

657
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:08,100
>> not a expert in tax law

658
00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:09,100
here, sorry.

659
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,100
>> that would be correct, yes.

660
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,100
>> thank you.

661
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,100
>> thank you.

662
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:19,100
any additional questions?

663
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:25,100
alright.

664
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:27,100
moving forward then I'll open

665
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,100
the public hearing.

666
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:30,100
on this zoning change, we have

667
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,100
no one signed up to speak on

668
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,100
the public hearing, so-

669
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,100
>> chair janner, we did have

670
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:39,100
one person signed up.

671
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,100
>> I'm sorry.

672
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:44,100
>> that's okay.

673
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:45,100
thought you already showed me a

674
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:46,100
blank one.

675
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,100
my bad.

676
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,100
alright.

677
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,100
I'll open the public hearing.

678
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:52,100
we do have one scheduled

679
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:54,100
speaker.

680
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:58,100
mr. Dan quackenbush, if you

681
00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:59,100
like to make your way to the

682
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:00,100
podium.

683
00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:01,100
>> I'm here, I don't really

684
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:04,601
have comment on this part of

685
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:06,100
it.

686
00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:07,100
[inaudible]

687
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,401
>> thank you very much.

688
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:12,100
now I'll entertain a motion to

689
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,401
close the public hearing.

690
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,100
>> mr. Chair, I move to close

691
00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:18,100
the public hearing.

692
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:19,100
>> thank you commissioner

693
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:20,100
seeling.

694
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,100
do I have a second?

695
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,100
>> second.

696
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,100
>> thank you commissioner

697
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100
chapman.

698
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100
all in favor say aye.

699
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,100
opposed, nay.

700
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,100
the public hearing is now

701
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,100
closed.

702
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:31,100
just for clarification, if you

703
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:33,100
hadn't signed up mr.

704
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:35,100
quackenbush do you want to be

705
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:38,601
listed as a speaker on the

706
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,100
other public hearing?

707
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:42,100
you already are.

708
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:43,100
want to make sure you are not

709
00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:45,100
sacrificing your right to

710
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:46,100
speak.

711
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:48,100
moving forward then, the public

712
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,100
hearing is closed.

713
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:51,100
commissioners, you have any

714
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,100
additional questions?

715
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,100
if not, I will entertain a

716
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,401
motion for rz26-0013.

717
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,100
>> mr. Chair, I don't have a

718
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:06,100
question, but I have one

719
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:07,100
comment and I think

720
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:09,100
commissioner seeling got at

721
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,100
this with the question as well.

722
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,100
it seems to make more sense to

723
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:16,100
me to-I'm going to be voting in

724
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,100
support of this motion, but it

725
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:20,100
with make more sense to me for

726
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:24,100
it to be m3 or m2 with what's

727
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,100
continuous in that area opposed

728
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,100
to ag.

729
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:29,100
especially as we know what is

730
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:30,100
coming down the pipeline.

731
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:32,100
that just a general comment as

732
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100
we do these rezonings.

733
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,100
it makes a lot more sense to

734
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
have it continuous with what's

735
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,100
in the area opposed to we

736
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,100
decided it wasn't going to be

737
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,100
this but everything else around

738
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,100
it is so have it as a holding:

739
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:49,100
>> thank you for making that

740
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100
part of the record.

741
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,100
alright.

742
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,100
I will entertain a motion on

743
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,100
rz26-0013.

744
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,100
>> mr. Chair, I move to approve

745
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,401
the rezoning rz26-0013.

746
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:10,100
>> thank you commissioner

747
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:11,100
corcoran.

748
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:12,100
second?

749
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,100
>> second.

750
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,100
>> thank you commissioner

751
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,100
terrones.

752
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:19,100
roll call vote mrs. Will.

753
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,100
[roll call]

754
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,100
>> motion passes 8-0.

755
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:34,100
>> alright.

756
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:35,100
moving ahead.

757
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
on the fourth public hearing,

758
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,100
which is request for approval

759
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,100
of special use permit for

760
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:42,401
johnson county aggregates to

761
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,100
existing quarry located old 56

762
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,401
highway and west 159 street.

763
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,100
welcome back mr. Jurey.

764
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,100
>> thank you, chair,

765
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
commissioners.

766
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:55,100
so, yes, the existing quarry,

767
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,100
jca is requesting to amend the

768
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,401
1988 special use approval for

769
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:02,100
the existing rock quarry

770
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:05,100
located at northeast of old 56

771
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,401
and 159 street outlined in

772
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,100
yellow on the screen.

773
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,401
jca existing rock crushing

774
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,401
plant superior bones asphalt

775
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,100
are located on the property as

776
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,100
well as the point of sales

777
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,100
office down in the southeast

778
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
corner of the property.

779
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,100
I will as point of correction

780
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,100
on the staff report, the jca

781
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,100
property is nearly 568 acres,

782
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,100
including the pendage up here

783
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:36,601
that is just north of the 151

784
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,100
street alignment.

785
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,100
the site was zoned m2 and m3

786
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,100
back in 1988 and largely

787
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:47,100
surrounded by industrial zoning

788
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,100
to the south, east and west.

789
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,100
residential rural or ag zoning

790
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,100
as well to the north.

791
00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:00,100
in 1988, special use permit for

792
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,100
rock quarry was approved with

793
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,100
11 stipulations, including one

794
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:08,100
that was requiring hundred foot

795
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,401
buffer from that previous

796
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,100
farmer's property.

797
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:17,100
the jca is proposing to

798
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:19,100
continue quarrying this

799
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,100
property indefinitely approved

800
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,100
back in 1988 and transition to

801
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,401
underground mining in the

802
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,100
future.

803
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:30,100
they request to remove the

804
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:31,100
hundred foot buffer and willing

805
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:32,100
to add restrictions that comply

806
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,401
with today's standards and

807
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
improve the current situation,

808
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,100
particularly regarding dust and

809
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,100
air quality.

810
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:43,601
shown on the screen are the

811
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,100
above ground quarry limits

812
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:47,100
which do comply with the

813
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,100
setbacks established in 1988,

814
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:51,100
two changes.

815
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,100
first the hundred foot setback

816
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,100
from the expansion quarry

817
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,100
property would be removed to

818
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,401
allow for one continuous

819
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,100
operation and second, jca was

820
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,100
willing to increase the cedar

821
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,100
creek stream buffer setback

822
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,100
from 50 feet to 120feet and

823
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:11,100
that was to comply with today's

824
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,100
stream buffer requirements

825
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,100
adopted after the 1988

826
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,100
approval.

827
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,100
the 1988 special use did

828
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,100
require birms along public

829
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:25,100
records and hundred foot buffer

830
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,100
from the expansion property as

831
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,100
well.

832
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,100
today the quarry is visible

833
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:33,100
from 151 street and the also

834
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,401
from the 159 street bridge.

835
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100
the applicant is willing to

836
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,100
install a birm down in that

837
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,100
along the bridge area down

838
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,100
there in the south side of the

839
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,100
property to in essence screen

840
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,100
that existing quarry from view

841
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,100
on 159.

842
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,100
as for the hundred foot buffer

843
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:01,100
agreed to stipulation that

844
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,100
requires to install a birm

845
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:05,100
where necessary to screen the

846
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,100
quarry from public view,

847
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,100
whether that is on the

848
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,401
expansion quarry property, or

849
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,100
on their own property in the

850
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,100
future.

851
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:21,100
jca is also proposing to

852
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,100
transition to underground rock

853
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,100
mining.

854
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
shown on the screen are the

855
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
proposed underground mine

856
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,100
limits.

857
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,100
these do comply with today's

858
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,100
required 200 foot setback for

859
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:33,100
underground along the perimeter

860
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,100
of the site, and also the 120

861
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:37,100
foot stream buffer requirement

862
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,401
that I mentioned previously.

863
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,100
jca is willing to reclaim the

864
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:47,100
property in two phases whereas,

865
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:48,100
phase reclamation wasn't

866
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,100
required in 1988.

867
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,100
so, in 15 years jca will

868
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,100
reclaim roughly 110 acres in

869
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
the southwest corner of the

870
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,601
site for phase 1 and there will

871
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
be a birm required between

872
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,100
phases 1 and 2 to insure the

873
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,100
quarry remains completely

874
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
screened.

875
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,100
for phase 2, this area will not

876
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,100
be reclaimed until quarrying

877
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,100
and mining is complete as this

878
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,100
is where the rock crusher,

879
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,100
stock piling and sales will

880
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,100
continue to occur.

881
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,100
the applicant provided a future

882
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,100
concept plan to show how the

883
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
existing quarry could be

884
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,100
developed.

885
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,100
buildings are shown along the

886
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:32,100
north and the west boundaries,

887
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:36,100
and quarried areas in essence

888
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,100
the rest of the property is not

889
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,100
expected to be able to support

890
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:44,100
buildings due to removal of bed

891
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,100
rock from the surface quarrying

892
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:47,100
operations.

893
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:48,100
however, this area could

894
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:50,100
support pavement and small

895
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,100
structures as well.

896
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,100
as stipulated, the undergrounds

897
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,100
mine will be engineered to

898
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,100
support.

899
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,100
the comprehensive plan

900
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:07,100
designate the property as parks

901
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,100
and open space.

902
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:11,100
while the existing quarry

903
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,601
doesn't align with the land use

904
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,100
designation the property will

905
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,100
be reclaimed open space after

906
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,100
the site is reclaimed.

907
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:22,100
agreed to stipulations to

908
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:23,100
insure the property could be

909
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100
developed as shown in the

910
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,100
future.

911
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,100
this preserves future

912
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,100
flexibility for development in

913
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,100
the event the comp plan vision

914
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,601
does change from the parks and

915
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,401
open space designation today,

916
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,100
since this quarry probably

917
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,100
won't be reclaimed for a while

918
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,100
with indefinite approval as

919
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,401
they received back in 1988.

920
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
in addition, the proposal does

921
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:51,100
meet goals and strategies of

922
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,100
the comp plan.

923
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:55,100
willing to add stipulations to

924
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,100
the existing quarry not

925
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,100
established in 1988.

926
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,100
these additional stips will

927
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,100
minimize negative impacts and

928
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,100
provide greater corridor

929
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:07,100
setback, meeting lu2.9 and any

930
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,100
12.1.

931
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,100
all neighborhood and public

932
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:17,100
notice requirements have been

933
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:19,401
met and neighborhood meeting

934
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:21,100
was not required for the

935
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,100
existing quarry as no

936
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,100
neighborhoods are within the

937
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:26,100
500 foot required buffer area.

938
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,100
staff did receive written

939
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:29,100
comments from six individuals

940
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,100
included in the agenda and also

941
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
received since publication

942
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,401
received I believe five

943
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,100
additional written comments,

944
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,100
even the last one coming

945
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,100
through after 5 today I believe

946
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,100
we provided to you in print

947
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:45,100
form.

948
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:48,601
so, these will be forwarded as

949
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,100
well to the city council

950
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:52,100
packet.

951
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:54,100
in general, this correspondence

952
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,100
include feedback about air

953
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:58,100
quality or dust in general and

954
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,100
the health impact that, rock

955
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100
spillage on public roads,

956
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:05,100
blasting, the noise and ground

957
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,401
vibration associated well as

958
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:10,100
water quality and impact to

959
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,100
property values.

960
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100
to address dust and rock

961
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,100
spillage, jca will reclaim the

962
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:19,100
110 acres in 15 years reducing

963
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,100
a source of dust from wind

964
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:24,100
erosion and other dust sources

965
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,401
from that 110 acre site.

966
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,100
they will also remove the

967
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,100
existing drive on old 56

968
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,100
limiting potential track-out

969
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,100
dust and rock spillage along

970
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,401
old 56 and limiting track-out

971
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
to only 159 street.

972
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:46,100
in addition, jca submitted a

973
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,100
dust control plan as reviewed

974
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,100
by the johnson county

975
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,100
department of air and by third

976
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,401
party specialist, joseph who

977
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,100
does specialize in air quality

978
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,100
compliance.

979
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,100
this plan will reduce dust from

980
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,100
current levels in a variety of

981
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
ways.

982
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,100
first foremost, jca agreed to

983
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,100
monitor dust levels

984
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,100
periodically using a

985
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:10,100
combination of lab testing as

986
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,100
well as real time censors they

987
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,100
will deploy in the field.

988
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,100
second, the rock crushing

989
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,100
plant, which is a major source

990
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,100
of dust will be up graded with

991
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,100
new dust suppression equipment

992
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,100
and operations will be scaled

993
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,100
back on windy days and they

994
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:30,100
will have train spotters to

995
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,100
notice the requirements.

996
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,100
to address the next biggest

997
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,100
source of dust, vehicle

998
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,100
movement.

999
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,601
jca is chip unpaved roads and

1000
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,100
installing track-out control

1001
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,100
devices where pavement

1002
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,100
transitions to unpaved haul

1003
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:54,100
roads internally.

1004
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,100
in addition, they are

1005
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,100
committing to daily street

1006
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:58,401
sweeping along 159 street and

1007
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,401
they did purchase vacuum

1008
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,100
sweeper for that as well.

1009
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:07,100
so, most importantly I will say

1010
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:10,601
the dust control plan is a

1011
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,100
living document.

1012
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,100
they have agreed to review it

1013
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,100
and adjust it as necessary

1014
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:18,100
annually through a meeting with

1015
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:19,100
staff.

1016
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:20,100
we can adjust that as the

1017
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:22,401
quarry changes, quarry will

1018
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,100
change over the years and

1019
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:28,100
sources of dust and where it

1020
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,100
comes from as they quarry

1021
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,100
through the site so the ability

1022
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,100
to change that as their

1023
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:35,100
operations change will be

1024
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,100
beneficial.

1025
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,601
lastly, I will say jca will

1026
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,100
maintain a complaint log and

1027
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,100
willing to report to city

1028
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,100
council for compliance.

1029
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,100
as for blasting, jca submitted

1030
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,100
a report to confirm the blasts

1031
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,100
complied with the u.s. Bureau

1032
00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:59,100
mines blasting limits which is

1033
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100
a well established national

1034
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
standard and olathe standard

1035
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
for that fact.

1036
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,100
in the last year, blast did

1037
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:09,100
occur in the purple area on the

1038
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,100
screen and the seismic readings

1039
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,100
were taken from two locations

1040
00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,601
up north there and then on

1041
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,401
their expansion quarry property

1042
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,100
towards the northwest.

1043
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,100
so, as you can see on the graph

1044
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:31,100
on the right side of the

1045
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,401
screen, the peak seismic

1046
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,100
reading for all the blasts that

1047
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:38,601
occurred in the last year have

1048
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:42,100
fallen well below the legal

1049
00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,100
limits of olathe standards for

1050
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,100
ground vibration.

1051
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,100
so, in summary, jca agreed to

1052
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:54,100
place additional restrictions

1053
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,100
on their existing quarry.

1054
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:57,100
that is currently allowed to

1055
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,100
remain indefinitely.

1056
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,100
the request meets approval

1057
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,100
criteria and aligns in the comp

1058
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,100
plan.

1059
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:06,100
with that, staff recommends

1060
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,100
approval of the requested

1061
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,100
amendment with the stipulations

1062
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,401
outlined in staff's report.

1063
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,100
too long to fit on the page I

1064
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:17,100
will say, so mention the topics

1065
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:19,100
here.

1066
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,100
jca is willing to limit hours

1067
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,401
of operation, blasting stips,

1068
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:27,100
screening or visibility stips,

1069
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,100
air quality, water quality,

1070
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,100
transparency for the public, as

1071
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,100
well as making sure the mine is

1072
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,100
engineered appropriately for

1073
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,100
future land use and reclamation

1074
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,100
for the property.

1075
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,100
with that, I will stand for any

1076
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,100
questions.

1077
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100
that is lot of information so

1078
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,100
if you have questions I'm

1079
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:49,100
available as well as curtis

1080
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,100
peterson and dan jones.

1081
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100
>> thank you mr. Jurey.

1082
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:54,100
commissioners, you have any

1083
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,100
questions for staff?

1084
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,100
>> thank you chair.

1085
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,100
thank you nathan.

1086
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,100
good presentation.

1087
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:04,100
a lot of topics here.

1088
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,100
I will ask about the dust

1089
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:07,100
control monitoring.

1090
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,100
I know it it goes to property

1091
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,100
both of the applications we

1092
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,100
will be looking at here

1093
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:14,100
tonight.

1094
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,100
so, there have been a lot of

1095
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,100
comments regarding the problem

1096
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,100
with dust and the current

1097
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,100
quarrying situation.

1098
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:25,100
the applicant has a plan to

1099
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
control that.

1100
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:29,100
I guess my question is, what is

1101
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,100
the baseline established to

1102
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,100
determine that in fact we have

1103
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,100
a problem that exceeds an

1104
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,100
acceptable baseline?

1105
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,100
is there a baseline established

1106
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,100
with regards to air quality in

1107
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,100
the area as it relates to the

1108
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,100
mining operations?

1109
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,100
>> so, they do comply with the

1110
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,100
current standards for the rock

1111
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:51,100
crusher.

1112
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,100
that is particularly what is

1113
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,100
the biggest source of dust.

1114
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:56,100
so, that is what the state and

1115
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:59,100
johnson county air division do

1116
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,100
inspect that annually and do

1117
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,100
comply.

1118
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,100
what they are doing is in

1119
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,100
addition and beyond that.

1120
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:09,100
so, the legal limits are set by

1121
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,601
the state for the rock crusher,

1122
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:15,100
and they are in compliance with

1123
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,100
that.

1124
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,100
they are just proposing to

1125
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,100
improve the situation.

1126
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,100
>> is the-they talk about in

1127
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,100
the report, talk about they are

1128
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,100
going to significantly upgrade

1129
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100
the dust suppression system.

1130
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,100
is the current one not

1131
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,100
adequate?

1132
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:33,100
>> not adequate.

1133
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,601
>> so, I will say, the legal

1134
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,100
limits of what the rock crusher

1135
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:44,801
can do are set by the state and

1136
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,100
federal epa, and they are in

1137
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100
compliance with those

1138
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
standards.

1139
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,100
>> okay.

1140
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
I guess what I'm trying to

1141
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,100
understand here, if we are

1142
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,100
having-if there is issue with

1143
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
the air quality with the

1144
00:39:58,100 --> 00:40:00,100
current suppression system in

1145
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:04,100
place, I guess to me just seems

1146
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:06,100
we have a issue that needs to

1147
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:08,100
be addressed and I'm curious,

1148
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,100
is the upgrade going to address

1149
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:11,100
the issue, because the comments

1150
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,100
we hear is that there is a dust

1151
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
problem out there.

1152
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,100
and the other thing I'm curious

1153
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:20,100
about and will probably flow

1154
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100
over into both of these

1155
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100
applications, there a comment

1156
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,601
in here about send samples for

1157
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,401
asbestos and silicate testing.

1158
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,100
how often is that done and what

1159
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:37,100
is the protocol if in fact they

1160
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,100
test positive?

1161
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,100
>> so, they are proposing to

1162
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,100
test for those two items four

1163
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:48,100
times a year, quarterly in

1164
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:50,100
essence, and I will say that

1165
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,100
there are legal limits for

1166
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:56,201
those as well and the mine I

1167
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100
believe the mine safety health

1168
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,100
administration which is federal

1169
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,100
administration does regulate

1170
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,100
that for worker safety, so they

1171
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,100
have limits within the quarry

1172
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,100
itself that they need to adhere

1173
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,100
to for their own workers.

1174
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,100
>> thank you.

1175
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,100
this probably is maybe a

1176
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,100
question more for the

1177
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:14,100
applicant, but the question,

1178
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,100
what is the protocol if they

1179
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,100
exceed the limits?

1180
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:19,100
for the safety of the

1181
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,100
neighborhoods around?

1182
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,100
>> I might differ to that.

1183
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:25,100
>> that's fine.

1184
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
thank you.

1185
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,100
>> thank you commissioner

1186
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,100
chapman.

1187
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,401
other questions for staff?

1188
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:34,100
commissioner seeling.

1189
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,100
>> thank you, sir again for the

1190
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,100
presentation.

1191
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,100
this may go to the next

1192
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:40,100
hearing.

1193
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,100
not sure, but you mentioned it

1194
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,100
so thought I bring it up so I

1195
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,100
don't miss my chance to ask.

1196
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,100
on one of the slides you were

1197
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:48,100
showing buffering or birming

1198
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:50,401
and you had--thank you.

1199
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,100
so, I guess you mentioned on

1200
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,100
the new property and I'm

1201
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,100
specifically talking about the

1202
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:01,100
north and northwest and west,

1203
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,100
will they be birming that area

1204
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,100
along old 56 highway?

1205
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,100
>> in this area?

1206
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:10,100
>> yes.

1207
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:14,100
>> so, yes, on the next case it

1208
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:15,100
shows that.

1209
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:16,100
there is a stipulation that

1210
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,100
says regardless this does need

1211
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:22,100
to be screened from view.

1212
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,100
we don't say what property it

1213
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:26,100
has to be on, just has to be-it

1214
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,100
is performance standard and has

1215
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,100
to be screened.

1216
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:30,100
>> why does that need to be

1217
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,100
screened?

1218
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,100
>> so, udo has a requirement

1219
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,100
for any outdoor use outdoor

1220
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:38,100
operations and the screening

1221
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,401
that is required throughout

1222
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,100
udo.

1223
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
>> okay.

1224
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,100
again, next hearing but you

1225
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,100
brought it up, so should

1226
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,100
approval happen for the next

1227
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,100
piece of land, they will birm

1228
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,100
it in that area you just

1229
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:54,100
marked?

1230
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:55,100
>> correct.

1231
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:56,100
>> thank you.

1232
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,100
second question, you mentioned

1233
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,100
the biggest source of dust is

1234
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,100
from the rock crusher.

1235
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:03,100
you mentioned they are going to

1236
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:04,100
up grade on the rock crusher to

1237
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:05,100
control the dust.

1238
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:07,100
is that a stipulation or is

1239
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,100
that an agreement?

1240
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,100
>> so, that is in the dust

1241
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,100
control plan before you

1242
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:13,100
tonight.

1243
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,100
there is a stipulation that

1244
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:18,601
says they need to install that

1245
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:21,100
by date certain.

1246
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,100
>> thank you, sir.

1247
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:24,100
>> additional questions?

1248
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:26,100
commissioner lynn.

1249
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:29,100
>> thank you mr. Chair.

1250
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:31,100
following up on commissioner

1251
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:32,100
chapman question, for the

1252
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,100
testing results, I see those

1253
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,100
results are reported to the

1254
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,100
johnson county department of

1255
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,100
health and environment yearly

1256
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,100
and it is available for the

1257
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,100
public to see.

1258
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,100
is there a requirement to

1259
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:48,100
inform the public should it be

1260
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:51,601
found to be out of compliance?

1261
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:54,100
>> I don't know what johnson

1262
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:56,100
county protocol is.

1263
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,100
I am not entirely sure.

1264
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:01,100
but, if we find anything out of

1265
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:04,100
compliance, we'll have our own

1266
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,100
standards to address it with

1267
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,100
them particularly.

1268
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,100
>> okay.

1269
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:11,100
thank you.

1270
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:12,100
>> one question mr. Jurey, you

1271
00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:15,100
had made comment when we were

1272
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,100
on the topic of blasting that

1273
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,100
they were meeting the olathe

1274
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:21,100
limits where the blasting is.

1275
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:24,100
as far a olathe limits, does

1276
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:25,100
that mean there are state and

1277
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,100
federal limits on that and if

1278
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,100
there are olathe limits, how

1279
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,100
are they set and do they

1280
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,100
differ?

1281
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:35,100
>> so, the seismic- the graph

1282
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:40,100
here, this is a u.s. Bureau of

1283
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,401
mines limits they established.

1284
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:46,100
not entirely sure when they

1285
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,100
established them, about they

1286
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:49,100
were established by u.s. Bureau

1287
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,100
of mines and-

1288
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:52,100
>> so that is federal?

1289
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:54,100
>> yeah, federal.

1290
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:58,100
we follow that I believe state

1291
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,100
probably follows that too and

1292
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:02,401
any other-each state decides

1293
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,100
whether they follow that or

1294
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,100
have stricter requirements.

1295
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,100
>> when we talk about federal

1296
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:08,100
or state or olathe, we are

1297
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:10,100
pretty much all following the

1298
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:11,100
same guideline on this?

1299
00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:12,100
>> yes.

1300
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,100
>> thank you.

1301
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:15,100
any additional questions?

1302
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,100
commissioner corcoran.

1303
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:19,100
>> who owns the triangle piece

1304
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,100
of property on the northwest on

1305
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,100
the north and west side of 56

1306
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:25,100
highway?

1307
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,100
>> the north and west side.

1308
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:32,100
right here?

1309
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:34,100
right there?

1310
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
>> yes.

1311
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:37,100
>> that is right-of-way

1312
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:38,100
currently.

1313
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:39,100
>> it is all right-of-way?

1314
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,100
thank you.

1315
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,100
>> owned by johnson county.

1316
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,100
>> thank you.

1317
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
>> okay.

1318
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100
any additional questions for

1319
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,100
staff?

1320
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,100
commissioner bergida.

1321
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

1322
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:53,100
going back to some of the

1323
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,401
questions about dust, I'm

1324
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
reading the stipulations from

1325
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,401
1988, and stipulation d talks

1326
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:04,100
about the applicant shall work

1327
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,100
with the city and county

1328
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,100
applying appropriate dust

1329
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:09,100
control measures and then goes

1330
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,401
on to describe it.

1331
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,100
are those in place currently is

1332
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,100
what we were talking about in

1333
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,100
terms of some of the tests

1334
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:18,100
reported periodically and sent

1335
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:20,100
to the county?

1336
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,100
>> so, these specifically-I

1337
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:27,100
will say 159 street used to be

1338
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,100
a gravel road and so that was

1339
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,100
applying appropriate dust

1340
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,100
control measures to 159 street

1341
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,100
specifically.

1342
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,601
since then, obviously it is a

1343
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,100
paved road now.

1344
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,100
rock spillage on a gravel road

1345
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:43,100
might have been good, helped to

1346
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,100
maintain it, but no longer good

1347
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,100
rock spillage on paved road

1348
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:49,100
with vehicle speeds at what

1349
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:50,100
they are.

1350
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,100
that is something that they are

1351
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,100
willing to work with us and

1352
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,100
they will do daily street

1353
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:56,100
sweeping to make sure they

1354
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:57,100
comply.

1355
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,100
>> okay, so you are saying d is

1356
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,100
no longer necessary because it

1357
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,100
is paved, so we don't have-

1358
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:05,100
>> yes.

1359
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,100
>> okay.

1360
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,100
that answers my question

1361
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,100
regarding pollution.

1362
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:12,100
on the topic of stipulations

1363
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:15,100
additionally, what was the plan

1364
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:17,100
for f on the stipulation, the

1365
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,100
quarry operation reclamation?

1366
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,100
follow development plan

1367
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,100
approved by the planning

1368
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:26,100
commission and the date is

1369
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:27,100
blotted out.

1370
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,100
what was the reclamation plan?

1371
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,401
>> they showed reclamation plan

1372
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,100
that in essence had industrial

1373
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,100
lots, so zoned m2, m3, so it

1374
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,100
had industrial lots lined out

1375
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,601
around the site, but based on

1376
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,401
their proposal, the quarried

1377
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,401
areas are no longer

1378
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,100
developable, so-

1379
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,100
>> was there a timeline for the

1380
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:56,100
reclamation plans?

1381
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,401
>> no, the 1988 approval was

1382
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:02,100
indefinite no time limit

1383
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:03,100
quarry.

1384
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,100
>> okay, so f didn't happen or

1385
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:06,100
there wasn't-

1386
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,100
>> there was no timeline

1387
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
associated with it, correct.

1388
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,100
>> okay.

1389
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:16,601
on h, what is their current

1390
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:21,100
measures to prevent pollution

1391
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,100
of cedar creek and lake olathe?

1392
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,100
>> they do have a 50 foot

1393
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,100
setback from the stream and

1394
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,100
they do keep vegetative to help

1395
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,401
reduce that stormwater run-off

1396
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,100
going into the cedar creek

1397
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:41,100
itself.

1398
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:43,401
>> stipulation j, the interior

1399
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:47,100
drive paved until the site is

1400
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:48,100
developed with industrial uses.

1401
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:51,100
was that at any point triggered

1402
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,100
is or-it doesn't sound the

1403
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:55,100
interior drive is paved?

1404
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:58,100
>> no, that was based upon

1405
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,100
reclamation it triggers the

1406
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,100
pavement for the uses.

1407
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:03,100
>> okay.

1408
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:07,100
and then have we been doing k

1409
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,100
inspect the site once a year

1410
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,100
and a report being submitted to

1411
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:14,100
the planning commission and

1412
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:15,100
city council?

1413
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:18,100
>> no, we have not consistently

1414
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:19,100
been doing that.

1415
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:20,100
>> okay.

1416
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,100
and are then, shifting gears,

1417
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,100
taxes, there was a helpful

1418
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:26,100
slide presented on taxes.

1419
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,100
it seemed most that was taxes

1420
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:31,100
in general and not towards the

1421
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:32,100
city olathe itself.

1422
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,100
am I accurate in saying that?

1423
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,100
I saw it was broken down to

1424
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,100
sales tax, but there was no

1425
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,100
breakdown in terms of property

1426
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:42,100
taxes to the city.

1427
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,100
has there been any analysis on

1428
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:45,100
that?

1429
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,100
>> the applicant might be

1430
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,100
answer some that.

1431
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:49,100
they provided that slide, but I

1432
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:51,100
believe there was property tax

1433
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,100
shown on that.

1434
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:56,100
>> that was all the taxes, not

1435
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
specifically--

1436
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:58,100
>> okay.

1437
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,100
>> if I need to ask the

1438
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,100
applicant later that is fine.

1439
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,100
just curious, this rezoning of

1440
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:07,601
the 109 acres or what not, how

1441
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,100
much does that add or change,

1442
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,100
because this is all historic

1443
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,100
and are not changing whether we

1444
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:14,100
approve or not from my

1445
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:15,100
understanding.

1446
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:18,100
they will continue to operate

1447
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:20,100
whether we approve this or not,

1448
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,100
so what's the added economic

1449
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,100
benefit of approving?

1450
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:28,100
>> I'll let the applicant

1451
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,100
answer that as well.

1452
00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:32,100
>> and then, this might be a

1453
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,401
applicant question, how much

1454
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:37,401
noise is there underground

1455
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,100
vibration or noise or vibration

1456
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,100
underground blasting opposed to

1457
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,100
surface blasting because I

1458
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,100
notice the different start

1459
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100
times.

1460
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,100
one was 8:30 and the other is

1461
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,100
10 o'clock so what is the

1462
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:52,100
difference?

1463
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,100
>> I don't know if I have the

1464
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:55,100
numerical difference but in

1465
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,100
general, underground blasting

1466
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:58,100
is more muffled.

1467
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,100
you have the all the rock and

1468
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,601
earth above to help dampen the

1469
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,100
sound, but vibrations can be

1470
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100
similar.

1471
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,100
>> okay.

1472
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,100
thank you.

1473
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
>> any additional questions for

1474
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:15,100
staff?

1475
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:16,100
do we need to have the

1476
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:18,100
applicant--

1477
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:20,100
>> if we could on the last two.

1478
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,100
the tax slide and if they are

1479
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:23,100
able to provide additional

1480
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,100
information on sound or

1481
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:26,100
vibration that would be

1482
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:27,100
helpful.

1483
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,100
>> absolutely.

1484
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
>> kurt peterson on behalf of

1485
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,100
the applicant.

1486
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:35,401
900 west 48 place kansas city

1487
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,100
missouri.

1488
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:41,100
we are supportive of all the

1489
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,100
stipulations, which if I got

1490
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,100
numbers right, 1 and 2 and all

1491
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:46,100
the sub points that come under

1492
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:47,100
them.

1493
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:48,100
we are accepting that.

1494
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:50,100
and, if you dont mind chair, if

1495
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,100
I can go in order the there was

1496
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:53,100
a couple questions mr. Jurey

1497
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:55,100
had differed to the applicant

1498
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,100
that commissioner chapman asked

1499
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:58,100
so thought maybe addressing

1500
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:00,100
those and then working over if

1501
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,100
that is okay?

1502
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,100
>> yeah.

1503
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,100
>> remind me if I miss

1504
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:06,100
something, please.

1505
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:07,100
>> absolutely.

1506
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,100
>> commissioner chapman had

1507
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:09,100
first asked about whether

1508
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:11,100
there's a baseline for air

1509
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:12,100
quality.

1510
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:13,100
all these changes, there is a

1511
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:14,100
huge dust control plan.

1512
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,100
how do we know if there is

1513
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,100
material change once everything

1514
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,100
is done in installed.

1515
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:21,100
the answer is building on what

1516
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:22,100
mr. Jurey said.

1517
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:23,100
he wasn't wrong, just adding

1518
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:24,100
more detail to it.

1519
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,100
we had a exhaustive analysis

1520
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:31,100
done of the quarry dust

1521
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:33,401
situation in 2023 and completed

1522
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,100
by environmental consulting

1523
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:38,100
services, which is the same

1524
00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:40,100
consultant that handled our

1525
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,100
dust control plan if you look

1526
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:43,100
on the cover of that so you

1527
00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:44,100
recognize the name.

1528
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:46,100
again, they have all the bona

1529
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,100
fide and well known and highly

1530
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:49,100
respected.

1531
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,100
so, we have that from 2023 and

1532
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:53,100
the nature that in the summary

1533
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:55,100
was a study for testing dust

1534
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:57,100
and for specifically compliance

1535
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,601
with 40c [inaudible] which is a

1536
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:03,100
lot of stuff, but it matters.

1537
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:04,100
it is something that is really

1538
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:05,100
important.

1539
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,100
that was the analysis and the

1540
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
very same thing that we would

1541
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:09,100
have tested after we do these

1542
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,100
extensive dust control

1543
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:12,100
measures, enhancement to the

1544
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:13,100
crusher and all that.

1545
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,100
there will be a apple to apple

1546
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:17,100
comparison immediately once we

1547
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:18,100
installed everything.

1548
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,100
something else we were talking

1549
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,100
about today that contributes to

1550
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,100
the core baseline answer is

1551
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:24,100
that, johnson county department

1552
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,100
of health and environment is

1553
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:27,100
the body that oversees what is

1554
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,100
happening at the quarry with

1555
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
dust et cetera and it was just

1556
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:33,100
a few-I was trying to-two or

1557
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:35,100
three weeks ago so within the

1558
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:37,100
last 30 days they actually came

1559
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,100
out and did their report, which

1560
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,100
yes, looks at the same things

1561
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,100
as the 2023 study, but actually

1562
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:44,100
goes beyond that.

1563
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,100
they don't just focus on the

1564
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:47,100
crusher because that is the

1565
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:49,100
main source of dust, but they

1566
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:52,100
also go around and watch haul

1567
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:54,100
routes, look at the stock piles

1568
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,100
and anywhere dust is happening

1569
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:57,100
the county looks to make sure

1570
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,100
we are in full compliance,

1571
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,100
takes extensive notes and has a

1572
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:02,100
report, so the answer to the

1573
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,100
question in short recap would

1574
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:07,601
be we have a wonderful baseline

1575
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,100
from 2023 and very recent just

1576
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,100
before if this is all approved

1577
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,100
and move forward immediately,

1578
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,100
you have the county with their

1579
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:17,100
data contributing with the

1580
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,100
baseline.

1581
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,100
the next question-I would say

1582
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:25,100
with that, one thing that came

1583
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,100
to mind because there was

1584
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,401
several times that both

1585
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,100
asbestos and silica was brought

1586
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:34,100
up.

1587
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,100
with you have a rock quarry

1588
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,100
like this, the way god made

1589
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:39,100
rock, glaciers and put

1590
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:40,100
everything together, you are

1591
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:43,100
not likely to find-the quarry

1592
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:46,100
has been around since 1890, a

1593
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,100
really long time and the

1594
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:52,100
testing has been going on for

1595
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,401
asbestos and silica regularly

1596
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
and there is never been

1597
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:57,100
anything out of compliance with

1598
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,100
respect to those materials, so

1599
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:03,100
it is very unlikely being legal

1600
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,100
about this, very unlikely you

1601
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,100
would find that at the quarry

1602
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:08,100
whether undergrounds or the

1603
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:10,401
expansion quarry for more

1604
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,100
surfaces, so that is good news

1605
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,100
but we are not going to just

1606
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,100
rest on our laurels, we are

1607
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
doing quarterly testing and

1608
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:19,100
making publicly available

1609
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:20,100
through the city.

1610
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:21,100
the second question

1611
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,401
commissioner chapman you asked

1612
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,100
I are wanted to address is,

1613
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:29,100
good question, you said, I hear

1614
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,100
all this whatever page dust

1615
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:33,100
control plan and all these 2

1616
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:35,100
and a half pages of stipulation

1617
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:38,100
from staff, but use my own

1618
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,100
words, is the quarry doing what

1619
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,100
it is supposed to do today out

1620
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:43,100
there with dust?

1621
00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,100
it really important for

1622
00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,100
everybody to understand that

1623
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:48,100
jca is one of the best

1624
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:50,100
operators around and absolutely

1625
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
achieving everything required

1626
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,100
by law.

1627
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:54,100
I think can't remember who said

1628
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:57,100
it whether staff but federal

1629
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:00,100
state and local have

1630
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,100
requirements for dust

1631
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,100
suppression and operating a

1632
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,100
quarry and all the inspections

1633
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
and testing and reports have

1634
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:07,100
down they have been in

1635
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,100
compliance.

1636
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:09,100
the baseline is compliance with

1637
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:13,100
law, but I will have a short

1638
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
presentations for the third

1639
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:15,100
application and we'll emphasize

1640
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,100
we are trying to go way beyond

1641
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:18,100
that.

1642
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:19,100
the last question raised I

1643
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,100
thought needed to be addressed

1644
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:24,100
is, what happens if something

1645
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:30,100
shows up?

1646
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,100
what happens?

1647
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,100
there is a statutory period

1648
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,100
where there is a cure period

1649
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:39,100
that says you need to fix this

1650
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:40,100
immediately and retest.

1651
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,100
if that isn't successful then

1652
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:43,100
you lose your ability to

1653
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,100
operate until it is fixed.

1654
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:47,100
you cannot operate and have to

1655
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:48,100
cease operations.

1656
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
those are three questions I

1657
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:51,100
felt that were not yet fully

1658
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,100
addressed you asked.

1659
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:55,401
going to commissioner bergida,

1660
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:59,100
the first in the mind not

1661
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:00,100
addressed is tax question with

1662
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:03,100
respect to you're right, there

1663
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
were sales taxes broken down

1664
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,100
between aggregate,b all and to

1665
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:10,100
the city.

1666
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:11,100
I don't think you are asking

1667
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:12,100
about that.

1668
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:13,100
on the property taxes I think

1669
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,100
you are right.

1670
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,100
I think it was a aggregate

1671
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,100
number and someone's--welcome

1672
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
someone to give the exact

1673
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,100
percentage but the city mill

1674
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:22,100
levies are something in the 10

1675
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,100
to 15 percent of overall tax

1676
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:26,100
levies, so if you wouldn't mind

1677
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:28,100
doing the math that is times

1678
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:29,100
the aggregate numbers that

1679
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:32,100
would be the city's take.

1680
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:35,100
also had written down the-yes,

1681
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:37,100
the concept of the difference

1682
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,100
between when there is a rock

1683
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,100
extracted underground versus

1684
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:44,100
above ground. Blasting is the

1685
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,100
way you do that.

1686
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:47,100
we do 2 to 3 times a week,

1687
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:49,100
surface blasting not increasing

1688
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,100
that and below ground it is

1689
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:52,100
much more frequent but much

1690
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,100
much much smaller of the

1691
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
charges use, because you-none

1692
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:59,601
being experts but you don't set

1693
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:02,401
off big charges undergrounds.

1694
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,100
they are very very small.

1695
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,100
we can dig now or the next

1696
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,100
application chair if you want

1697
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,100
to get into the blasting.

1698
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:16,100
if you have follow questions I

1699
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,100
am happy to answer those on

1700
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:19,100
blasting too.

1701
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,100
>> go ahead.

1702
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,100
>> do you all have estimates on

1703
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,401
the additional economic benefit

1704
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:28,100
from this area, because it's

1705
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:31,601
roughly 450k in sales taxes, so

1706
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:35,601
like 110, 115 year and if it is

1707
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100
10 to 15 we are looking at

1708
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,601
another 30k or 50k over the

1709
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,100
last four years.

1710
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,100
how much does approving this

1711
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:52,100
area, how much economic benefit

1712
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,100
would it give to the city for

1713
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:54,100
tax revenues?

1714
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,100
>> so, you are right, size up

1715
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:58,100
sales tax and property tax and

1716
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,100
together we can do that math

1717
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,100
and play it out over a lot of

1718
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:02,100
years, and the last number you

1719
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,100
saw in the packet-we could have

1720
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,100
gone indirect and didn't carry

1721
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,100
it out, but the other one on

1722
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:10,100
the sheet that you may recall

1723
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:12,100
is we talked about if as we

1724
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:14,100
transition, all the topics are

1725
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,100
deep we can go just keep asking

1726
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:17,100
question if you want to go

1727
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,100
deeper, but don't want to wear

1728
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,100
out the welcome.

1729
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:24,100
we transition from above ground

1730
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:26,100
mining on the big existing to

1731
00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:27,100
underground and that takes

1732
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,100
number of years.

1733
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,100
the idea is, this transition

1734
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,100
piece which was always meant to

1735
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:34,100
be and again don't want to get

1736
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,100
into the public hearing,

1737
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:37,100
limited period of time, 10

1738
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,100
years, was helping with the

1739
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,100
transition to get everything

1740
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:41,100
underground and the other

1741
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,100
number you saw, if transition

1742
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:46,100
didn't happen the volumes go

1743
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:48,100
way down for a number of years.

1744
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:49,100
that then causes whether a city

1745
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:51,100
olathe, with big street

1746
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:52,100
projects or anybody else in the

1747
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:55,100
area to have to go to likely

1748
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,100
two other quarries.

1749
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:58,100
you have to have the right rock

1750
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:00,401
and right quantity specifically

1751
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:03,100
for concrete and asphalt

1752
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,100
separately and the haul cost

1753
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100
are so significant so we

1754
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,100
presented a study to staff to

1755
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:10,100
show what is the overall cost

1756
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,100
of projects in the area if you

1757
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,100
had to bring that special kind

1758
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:17,601
of rock from outside the area.

1759
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:20,100
I believe it is 25 to $26

1760
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:24,100
million a year to the area if

1761
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:25,100
slowed down for a period of

1762
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:26,100
time.

1763
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:27,100
that is the third economic

1764
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:28,100
impact.

1765
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:31,100
>> is the surface level and

1766
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:32,100
forgive me, not technical

1767
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,100
expert, is the surface level

1768
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,401
harvesting on the 400 acres

1769
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:40,100
significantly slowing down

1770
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:42,100
hundred acres is the bridge to

1771
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:44,100
when you do the subsurface

1772
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:47,100
across the board or 500 plus

1773
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:48,100
acres?

1774
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,100
is that accurate?

1775
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:50,100
>> that is fair.

1776
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:51,100
other then I tweak it because

1777
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:53,100
the concept is right.

1778
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:55,100
it isn't slowing down yet, but

1779
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,100
the idea is because of the

1780
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:57,100
transition underground takes a

1781
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,100
number of years for the

1782
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,401
engineering and everything it

1783
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:04,100
would end up slowing down a

1784
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:05,100
lot.

1785
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:06,100
now we are not at the point

1786
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:08,100
yet, which is why we are trying

1787
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,100
to do this right now and not

1788
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:11,100
get to that point.

1789
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:12,100
>> okay.

1790
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:13,100
thank you.

1791
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,100
>> thank you mr. Peterson.

1792
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:16,100
any additional questions?

1793
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:18,100
commissioner corcoran.

1794
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:22,100
>> I think I heard the answer,

1795
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:24,100
there johnson county inspection

1796
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:27,100
you had less then 30 days ago,

1797
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,100
full compliance with-

1798
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:30,100
>> that's right.

1799
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:31,100
>> county requirements?

1800
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:32,100
>> that's right.

1801
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:34,100
>> thank you.

1802
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:35,100
>> commissioner bergida.

1803
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:37,100
>> sorry, I did have another

1804
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:38,100
one.

1805
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:39,100
if this is more appropriate for

1806
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,100
later, that is fine as well.

1807
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:44,100
there is-I think I understand

1808
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:46,100
the additional economic impact

1809
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:48,100
over the timeline.

1810
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:49,100
what about the additional

1811
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:52,601
impact on residents in terms of

1812
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:57,100
noise and variance and timing

1813
01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:59,100
of vibrations things like that?

1814
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:02,100
because, does moving it over

1815
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:05,100
that far is there any-if I

1816
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:08,100
missed it my apologies, but is

1817
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,401
there concrete difference or

1818
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:12,100
marginal increase they

1819
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:14,100
experience because of this?

1820
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:17,100
>> I will look at chair and I

1821
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,100
am going to looking for a

1822
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,100
answer to the question and also

1823
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:21,100
legal counsel.

1824
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,100
do you want me-this is largely

1825
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:24,100
get nothing to the next hearing

1826
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:26,100
and I'm fine with it, but

1827
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,100
differ to your direction as to

1828
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:31,100
whether we do that now?

1829
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:33,100
>> keep the record cleaner if

1830
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:34,100
you delayed for the next

1831
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,100
hearing.

1832
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,100
>> okay.

1833
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:38,100
>> maybe a few minutes from

1834
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,100
now.

1835
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,100
>> that's fine.

1836
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:42,100
>> do it on public hearing

1837
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,100
number 5.

1838
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:47,100
okay.

1839
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,100
any other additional questions

1840
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,401
for staff or applicant?

1841
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:52,100
okay.

1842
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:53,100
if not, I open the public

1843
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:54,100
hearing.

1844
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:57,601
on this one, we had one,

1845
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,100
quackenbush are you speaking on

1846
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,100
this one or the next one?

1847
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:06,100
come on up.

1848
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:09,100
>> this [inaudible] my name is

1849
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,100
dan quackenbush, 1405 south

1850
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,100
lake stone drive.

1851
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:18,100
I lived there since 1980.

1852
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:21,100
my house was one of the last

1853
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,401
built in lake stone.

1854
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:30,201
this is the same people came to

1855
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:38,100
my house and in my living room

1856
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,100
talked to the entire homes

1857
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:43,100
association and promised

1858
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:46,100
exactly what they are promising

1859
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:47,100
now.

1860
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,100
we'll take care of the dust.

1861
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:49,100
we'll take care of the

1862
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,100
vibration.

1863
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,100
you won't hear the backup

1864
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:55,100
bells, you just are hear the

1865
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:56,100
occasional blast here and

1866
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,100
there.

1867
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,100
all kinds of promises and

1868
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,100
frankly, I don't trust them.

1869
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:02,100
not for a minute.

1870
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:04,100
and yeah, there is all kinds of

1871
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,100
government regulations and

1872
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:08,100
such.

1873
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:09,100
that are supposed to keep them

1874
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:10,100
in line.

1875
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,100
you got to be out there 24

1876
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:14,100
hours a day to do it.

1877
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,100
frankly, no kidding I think a

1878
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:19,100
movie company would like to use

1879
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:22,100
159 street for a reenactment of

1880
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:24,401
the 1930's dust storm.

1881
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,100
all you have to do is drive

1882
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,100
down that street and you can

1883
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,100
choke up if you don't have your

1884
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,100
a c running.

1885
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:36,100
so, please, look at the

1886
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:37,100
reality.

1887
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,100
I am the current president of

1888
01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:40,100
homes association.

1889
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:43,100
want I never got a notice.

1890
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:44,100
the people across the street

1891
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:47,100
who just moved in, brought me

1892
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:48,100
the notice because they mailed

1893
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:50,100
it to them.

1894
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,100
the original plan for lake

1895
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:57,100
stone was well over a hundred

1896
01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:58,100
homes.

1897
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:00,100
we now have 29.

1898
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,100
when the quarry opened, all

1899
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:06,100
home construction in lake stone

1900
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,100
ceased.

1901
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:10,100
now, when they came to my

1902
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:11,100
house, they brought me this

1903
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:14,100
drawing here, and it is not

1904
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:16,100
real informative or anything,

1905
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:19,601
but it shows 37 plots in lake

1906
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:21,100
stone.

1907
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:22,100
that didn't include the other

1908
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:25,100
side of the lake, the other end

1909
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,100
of the lake, all that.

1910
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:28,100
we were going have well over a

1911
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:29,100
hundred homes.

1912
01:05:29,100 --> 01:05:32,100
I'll get to the financial part

1913
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:33,100
that in a minute.

1914
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:36,100
so, lake stone estate people

1915
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:40,100
have been putting up with this

1916
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:42,100
quarry for 40 years.

1917
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:45,100
we had clouds of dust, we had a

1918
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:47,100
lot of noise, a lot of

1919
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,100
vibration I have two stone fire

1920
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:53,100
places I have to clean up every

1921
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:55,100
week all the mortar that falls

1922
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:56,100
out of them every time they

1923
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:57,100
blast.

1924
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:00,100
now, we were all thinking,

1925
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:05,100
myself, lake stone, oak run

1926
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:07,100
people that they were about to

1927
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:09,401
run out of land.

1928
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,100
move on.

1929
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:14,100
and we are still asking you to

1930
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:15,100
tell them, move on.

1931
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,100
we put up with this long

1932
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:20,100
enough.

1933
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:23,601
now, why should we trust them

1934
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:25,100
now?

1935
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:27,100
more regulations, more

1936
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:29,100
paperwork, whatever.

1937
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:30,100
frankly, I dont think it will

1938
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,100
happen.

1939
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,601
now, they could have put in

1940
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:38,401
dust controls 40 years ago.

1941
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:40,100
some type.

1942
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,100
or, the new owners, don't know

1943
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:46,100
when they bought it, 10 years

1944
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
ago they could have done it,

1945
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,801
but no, they want you and us to

1946
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:55,100
let them expand their quarry

1947
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:58,100
and then they will do these

1948
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:00,100
extra things like controlling

1949
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,100
dust, noise and other things.

1950
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:07,100
now, I kind of think about the

1951
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:09,401
planning commission and what

1952
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
their job is and conceptually

1953
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,100
sorry, it looks pretty simple.

1954
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:16,100
I know it isn't, but it looks

1955
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,100
pretty simple.

1956
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:20,100
you just do your best to zone

1957
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:22,100
property that is compatible

1958
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,100
with surrounding properties.

1959
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,100
really, that simple.

1960
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:29,100
so, what should be zoned right

1961
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:32,100
next to a residential zone?

1962
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,100
refineries?

1963
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:35,100
chemical plants?

1964
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:37,100
how about pig farms?

1965
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:39,100
obviously not.

1966
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:41,100
I think quarries are right

1967
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:44,100
there in the same group.

1968
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:47,100
so, many residents, both lake

1969
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:51,100
stone and oak run have

1970
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,100
expressed to me the planning

1971
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:54,100
commission and the city council

1972
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,100
is very much about they only

1973
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:59,100
care about the bottom line.

1974
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:00,100
I can't believe that, but it

1975
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:03,100
might be true, so let's talk

1976
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
about money.

1977
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:09,601
in their report, we have this

1978
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:13,100
chart.

1979
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:14,100
I had it here somewhere.

1980
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,100
maybe somebody can put it up

1981
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,100
there for me.

1982
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:20,100
there it is.

1983
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:23,100
>> we are out of time.

1984
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
>> it claims a whole

1985
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,401
bunch-sales tax and property

1986
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:34,100
tax and I did the math and the

1987
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,100
city would do a lot better if

1988
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
they let us put up the last

1989
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,401
hundred homes and get 6

1990
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:43,100
thousand, 7 thousand in

1991
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,100
property taxes.

1992
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,100
I know that isn't all for

1993
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,100
olathe.

1994
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,100
>> thank you.

1995
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:50,100
you are at the end of time.

1996
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,100
>> he can have my time.

1997
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:53,100
>> it doesn't work that way.

1998
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,100
I appreciate that, but doesn't

1999
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:56,100
work that way.

2000
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,100
sorry, you are at the end of

2001
01:08:57,100 --> 01:08:59,100
your time.

2002
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:02,100
>> if you want a copy of this,

2003
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:04,401
you can have it.

2004
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,100
>> okay.

2005
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,100
commissioners, we have

2006
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:11,100
any-before we move into that, I

2007
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:14,100
entertain a motion to close the

2008
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:16,100
public hearing.

2009
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,100
>> I move we close the public

2010
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:22,100
hearing.

2011
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:23,100
>> thank you commissioner

2012
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:24,100
brown.

2013
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:25,100
do I have a second?

2014
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:26,100
>> second.

2015
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:27,100
>> thank you commissioner

2016
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:28,100
terrones.

2017
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:29,100
all in favor say aye.

2018
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:30,100
opposed, nay.

2019
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
the public hearing is now

2020
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,100
closed.

2021
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,100
commissioners, do we have

2022
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,100
additional discussion on the

2023
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,100
item?

2024
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:50,100
I will save it for the next

2025
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
one.

2026
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:52,100
if not, I call for a motion on

2027
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:54,100
su26-0009.

2028
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
>> I put it up there.

2029
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,100
mr. Chair, I move approval of

2030
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:10,100
su-26-0009 subject to the

2031
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,100
stipulations that presented in

2032
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:15,100
the staff report.

2033
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,100
>> thank you commissioner

2034
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:18,100
corcoran.

2035
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:19,100
do I have a second?

2036
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100
>> second.

2037
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:21,100
>> thank you commissioner

2038
01:10:21,100 --> 01:10:22,100
terrones.

2039
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:23,100
mrs. Will, will you take a roll

2040
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:24,100
call vote, please?

2041
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,100
[roll call]

2042
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:39,100
>> no, just because I have some

2043
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,100
unanswered questions, that's

2044
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:42,100
all.

2045
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:44,100
>> commissioner chapman, yes.

2046
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:46,100
>> chair janner, yes.

2047
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:48,401
the motion passes 7-1.

2048
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,100
>> I think we'll move to the

2049
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:53,100
5th and final public hearing

2050
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,100
which tonight is request for

2051
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:55,100
approval of the special use

2052
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:57,100
permit from johnson county

2053
01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:59,100
aggregate quarry expansion

2054
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:01,401
located southeast of 151 and

2055
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:04,100
old 56 highway.

2056
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:05,100
welcome back mr. Jurey will

2057
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
present the case.

2058
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
>> thank you chair.

2059
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,100
planning commission.

2060
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,401
nathan jurey, senior planner.

2061
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:13,100
yes, this is for the request to

2062
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:15,401
expand the quarry now.

2063
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:18,100
jca is request ing approval to

2064
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:21,100
expand on to 110 acre property

2065
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:24,100
at the corner of old 56 and 151

2066
01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:25,100
street.

2067
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:27,100
this request is to extract rock

2068
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,100
from this property by above

2069
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:32,100
ground quarrying as well as

2070
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
under ground mining.

2071
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,100
the request doesn't include

2072
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:38,100
rock crushing on the site,

2073
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:40,100
stock piling or sales on the

2074
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,100
expansion area, specifically as

2075
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:43,100
those operations will continue

2076
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,100
to occur on the existing

2077
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:48,100
quarry.

2078
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:51,100
the special use request is

2079
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:53,100
contingent on the ag zoning

2080
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:54,100
request.

2081
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:56,100
the site must be rezoned from

2082
01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:58,401
county to city zoning.

2083
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:02,100
shown on the screen here, above

2084
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:04,100
ground quarry limits shown in

2085
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
brown, which comply with the

2086
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,100
required 1 thousand foot

2087
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,100
set[from residential to the

2088
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:13,100
north and 300 setback shown to

2089
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:15,100
the west to comply with olathe

2090
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:17,100
screening requirements.

2091
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:20,100
requesting a 10 year time limit

2092
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:21,100
for all the surface quarrying

2093
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:23,401
operations to be completed.

2094
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,100
for screening, proposing to

2095
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:30,100
install vegetative birm.

2096
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,100
line of sight were reviewed

2097
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:39,100
from multiple vantage points

2098
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:40,100
including one of the highest

2099
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:42,100
point in the area, which is

2100
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:44,100
just lake shore and 151

2101
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:46,100
intersection there.

2102
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:48,100
and these do confirm the quarry

2103
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:51,100
will be screened from view from

2104
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:53,100
that location.

2105
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,401
after 10 years of quarrying,

2106
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:01,100
jca will reclaim the surface

2107
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,100
with gradual slopes ideal for

2108
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:05,100
future development.

2109
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,100
all together, reclamation will

2110
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,100
be expected to be completed

2111
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,100
within two years after

2112
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:12,100
quarrying is done.

2113
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:16,100
next on the screen are the

2114
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:18,100
proposed underground mine

2115
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:19,100
limits.

2116
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:22,100
so, these mine limits comply

2117
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:25,100
with the 200 foot setback along

2118
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:27,100
old 56 highway from the north

2119
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:29,100
and west property lines as well

2120
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,100
as--I say the mine entrance

2121
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,100
would be located off-site as it

2122
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:37,100
descends under to the expansion

2123
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:43,100
quarry and then it will be

2124
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,401
mined underground from there.

2125
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:54,100
I'll mention this.

2126
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:57,100
jca is requesting a 15 year

2127
01:13:57,100 --> 01:14:01,100
time limit, or with hard cap of

2128
01:14:01,100 --> 01:14:04,100
the end of 2051, which is 25

2129
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,100
years, whichever occurs first.

2130
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:08,100
the reason for this unusual

2131
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:11,100
request I will say is that jca

2132
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,100
expects mine engineering the

2133
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
plans and structural for the

2134
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:17,100
mine to take 5 to 10 years

2135
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:20,100
after which they expect mining

2136
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:22,100
to take 15 years.

2137
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:27,100
the applicant did provide a

2138
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:28,100
future concept plan to show how

2139
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,100
the property could be developed

2140
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:31,100
after quarrying and mining are

2141
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:32,100
both complete.

2142
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:34,100
buildings are shown along the

2143
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:36,100
north and west property lines.

2144
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:39,100
the area to be quarrying again

2145
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:40,100
is not expected to support

2146
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,100
buildings due to removal of bed

2147
01:14:43,100 --> 01:14:46,100
rock but could support parking,

2148
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:47,100
stormwater and other small

2149
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:48,100
structures.

2150
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:50,100
as stipulated, the undergrounds

2151
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:52,100
mine is required to be

2152
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:54,100
engineered to support buildings

2153
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,100
on the surface and underground

2154
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:58,401
warehousing could go below.

2155
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
the comprehensive plan

2156
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:04,100
designate the property as

2157
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:06,100
neighborhood commercial and

2158
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
business park.

2159
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
the proposed use doesn't align

2160
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:10,100
with the future land use

2161
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:12,100
designation, the property could

2162
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
still be developed with

2163
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:14,100
commercial and business park

2164
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,100
uses after the land is

2165
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:18,100
reclaimed.

2166
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,100
to insure alignment with the

2167
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:22,100
comp plan jca agreed to

2168
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,100
stipulations to insure the

2169
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,100
property can be developed as

2170
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:28,100
shown on the concept plan.

2171
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:30,401
also, the proposal achieves

2172
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:32,100
goals and strategies of the

2173
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
comp plan.

2174
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:35,100
the property will not be

2175
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,100
developed until after

2176
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:38,100
reclamation protecting this

2177
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,100
property from piece-meal

2178
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,100
development and allowing more

2179
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,100
contiguous development in the

2180
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:45,100
future.

2181
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,100
the neighborhood meeting was

2182
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:49,100
held in july with 44 residents,

2183
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:51,100
meeting minutes from that are

2184
01:15:51,100 --> 01:15:53,100
part of the agenda packet

2185
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,100
before you.

2186
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,401
all public notice requirements

2187
01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:59,100
melt.

2188
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,100
received written comments from

2189
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:01,100
six individuals also in the

2190
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:03,100
agenda and received the five

2191
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:05,401
correspondence as well since

2192
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:08,100
publication and that is

2193
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:10,401
provided to you tonight.

2194
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:13,100
the topics from the public

2195
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:15,100
correspondence have really been

2196
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,100
around air quality, dust, rock

2197
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:20,100
spillage, blasting, water

2198
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:22,100
quality and property value

2199
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100
impacts.

2200
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,401
again, regarding dust, this

2201
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,100
property will be reclaimed

2202
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,401
after surface quarrying is

2203
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:33,100
completed in 10 years.

2204
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:34,100
really limiting any dust

2205
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,100
created from this site at that

2206
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,100
point.

2207
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:43,401
once--the rock spillage on

2208
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,100
public roads is not a concern

2209
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:49,100
since they are not accessing a

2210
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:51,100
public road directly rock from

2211
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:52,100
this property will be

2212
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:54,100
transferred over to the rock

2213
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:55,100
crusher on the existing

2214
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:56,100
property, and so there is no

2215
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,100
concerns about rock spillage

2216
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:00,401
from this property itself.

2217
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,401
regarding addressing the dust

2218
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
during that requested 10 year

2219
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:09,100
time limit, jca submitted the

2220
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:11,100
dust control plan, which

2221
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,100
includes measures to reduce

2222
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:14,100
dust.

2223
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,100
this includes dust monitoring,

2224
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,401
watering haul roads and

2225
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:21,100
limiting vehicle speeds on

2226
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,100
their property.

2227
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,100
there is no rock crusher on the

2228
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,401
expansion, so just clarifying

2229
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:31,100
that, and again, they do plan

2230
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:33,100
to make this a living document

2231
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:35,100
and adjust it annually as

2232
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:38,100
needed to comply with their

2233
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,401
operations as they change.

2234
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,100
lastly, they will maintain a

2235
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:46,100
complaint log and report to

2236
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,100
city council periodically.

2237
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:51,401
regarding blasting, jca will

2238
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,100
use blasting to extract rock

2239
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:56,100
which creates noise and ground

2240
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:57,100
vibrations.

2241
01:17:57,100 --> 01:17:58,100
to address this concern, jca

2242
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:00,100
did commission a vibration

2243
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:03,100
study which is a third party

2244
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,100
professional firm that

2245
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,100
specializes in vibration

2246
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:08,100
monitoring.

2247
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:09,100
this study confirms how

2248
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:11,401
blasting can occur in

2249
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,100
compliance with olathe

2250
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,100
standards and the study

2251
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:19,100
confirms it is possible,

2252
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:21,100
seismic monitoring of every

2253
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:23,100
blast is required in real time

2254
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:24,100
for each blast for compliance

2255
01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:28,100
and that is sent to the fire

2256
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:29,100
marshal.

2257
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:32,100
jca agreed to conduct the

2258
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
pre-blast surveys of structures

2259
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:36,100
within 1800 feet of the surface

2260
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,100
quarry area more then double

2261
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:42,100
olathe standard pre-blast

2262
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,100
survey distance.

2263
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:46,100
also, they provide a automated

2264
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:49,100
notification service to help

2265
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,100
notify residents within or

2266
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:53,100
anyone that signs up for it

2267
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:54,100
really that blasts are

2268
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:57,100
occurring at intervals and sent

2269
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:59,100
out leading up to the actual

2270
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,100
blast event.

2271
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:04,100
so, in summary, this request

2272
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:06,401
meets approval criteria and

2273
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:09,100
aligns with the comp plan.

2274
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:10,100
staff recommends approval of

2275
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:11,100
the expansion with the

2276
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:13,100
stipulations outlined in the

2277
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,100
staff report.

2278
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:17,100
jca is amenable to staff

2279
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:19,100
recommended stips which are

2280
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,100
again regarding the topics on

2281
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:23,100
the slide here hours of

2282
01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:24,100
operation, blasting, visible,

2283
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:27,100
air and water quality, public

2284
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:32,100
[inaudible] I stand for

2285
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,100
questions and believe curtis

2286
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:36,401
peterson has a brief

2287
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:40,100
presentations or comment on the

2288
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,100
records.

2289
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,100
>> thank you.

2290
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:43,100
questions for staff?

2291
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:44,100
commissioner lynn.

2292
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:45,100
>> thank you mr. Chair.

2293
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:46,100
I have two questions.

2294
01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:47,100
the first one, on the future

2295
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,100
land use map that shows

2296
01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:51,100
neighborhood commercial in the

2297
01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:54,100
northern part of the area, are

2298
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:56,100
there any other area

2299
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:58,100
surrounding the oak run

2300
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:01,100
neighborhood that is meant to

2301
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:03,100
be neighborhood commercial?

2302
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:07,100
>> other then this area, I

2303
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:08,100
don't know entirely.

2304
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:09,100
I have to look at the future

2305
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:11,100
land use map if there is

2306
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:12,100
something on another side of

2307
01:20:12,100 --> 01:20:14,100
oak run.

2308
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:16,100
>> planning development

2309
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:18,100
manager, there is another node

2310
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:21,100
west of prairie highlands, so

2311
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:23,100
you have oak run and prairie

2312
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:25,100
highland and there is a node on

2313
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:28,100
plan olathe and we preserved it

2314
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:29,100
in elevate olathe.

2315
01:20:29,100 --> 01:20:30,100
the idea is have the nodes

2316
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:32,401
dispersed along major roadways

2317
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:36,100
near neighborhoods and as you

2318
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:39,100
go north you get one at 135 and

2319
01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:40,100
hedge.

2320
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:42,100
largely there is residential

2321
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:44,100
development already zoned near

2322
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:45,100
oak run.

2323
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:46,100
>> okay, thank you.

2324
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,100
how much does the undergrounds

2325
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:50,401
mining effect the future

2326
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:53,100
surface development?

2327
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:56,100
>> specifically-

2328
01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:57,100
>> in this area?

2329
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:58,100
>> on the property itself?

2330
01:20:58,100 --> 01:20:59,100
>> yes.

2331
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:02,100
>> so, the mine itself will be

2332
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:04,100
engineered to-there will be a

2333
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:07,100
floor and a ceiling and columns

2334
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:08,100
between in essence and they

2335
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:11,100
engine to make sure that can

2336
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
support up to 5 story building

2337
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
on the surface.

2338
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:15,100
>> okay, thank you.

2339
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
>> additional questions for

2340
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:20,100
commissioners?

2341
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,100
commissioner bergida.

2342
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:24,401
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

2343
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:26,100
I want to make sure I

2344
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:28,100
understand correctly, with the

2345
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:31,100
thousand foot setback on this

2346
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:35,100
parcel, what is it currently?

2347
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:40,100
is it 1217 with this,b it seems

2348
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,100
like from the nearest house or

2349
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,401
structure to where blasting

2350
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:45,100
would be.

2351
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:46,100
what is it currently?

2352
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:48,100
what is that distance?

2353
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:50,401
>> from the existing quarry?

2354
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:52,100
>> correct.

2355
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:54,100
>> okay.

2356
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:55,100
I had that number.

2357
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:57,100
I believe it is around like

2358
01:21:57,100 --> 01:21:59,100
1500 maybe.

2359
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:01,100
>> so a couple hundred feet

2360
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:04,100
difference in terms of the

2361
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:08,100
closest blast?

2362
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:10,100
>> let me--I might-

2363
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:13,100
>> 1500 versus 1200.

2364
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:16,100
do I have the numbers correct?

2365
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:17,100
>> excuse me, allow the

2366
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:19,100
speakers to have the floor

2367
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,100
here.

2368
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:28,100
>> 1500 feet from the existing

2369
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:30,100
surface quarry area is roughly

2370
01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:33,100
to that 600 foot setback mark

2371
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:37,100
and then, from the closest

2372
01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:40,100
house to the underground mine

2373
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:42,401
area would be about 1250.

2374
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:44,100
>> okay.

2375
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:47,100
so, the setback for underground

2376
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:49,100
is 600 feet, but in terms of

2377
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
above ground blasting-

2378
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:53,100
>> the setback for the above

2379
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,100
ground is 600 feet.

2380
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:56,401
the 200 foot setback is

2381
01:22:58,100 --> 01:22:59,100
underground.

2382
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:00,100
>> what is the thousand foot

2383
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
that I saw?

2384
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:04,100
>> so, this was back in 1988.

2385
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:06,100
these setbacks were set when we

2386
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:07,100
didn't have the thousand foot

2387
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:09,100
setback requirement, so that is

2388
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:12,100
a new requirement and that's

2389
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:13,100
why they propose the thousand

2390
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:14,100
foot.

2391
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,100
and, on the new one it is

2392
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:16,100
thousand?

2393
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:17,100
>> it is a thousand.

2394
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:18,100
>> okay.

2395
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:20,100
the closest is 1250 currently

2396
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:23,100
and then with this new one the

2397
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:26,100
closest would be 1217, is that

2398
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:28,100
correct?

2399
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:30,100
a 43 foot difference?

2400
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:37,401
>> the underground goes to 600.

2401
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100
>> but above ground would be-

2402
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:43,100
>> 1217.

2403
01:23:43,100 --> 01:23:45,100
>> okay, thank you.

2404
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,100
all I got.

2405
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:49,100
>> thank you.

2406
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:50,100
commissioner brown.

2407
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:53,100
>> mr. Jurey, could you-you had

2408
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:56,401
a couple slides-built time

2409
01:23:57,100 --> 01:23:58,100
limits.

2410
01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:59,100
could you pull the first one

2411
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,100
up?

2412
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:03,100
even you said it was a oddly

2413
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:04,100
worded.

2414
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:06,401
>> for underground mining time

2415
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:08,100
limit?

2416
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,100
>> that isn't the slide I'm

2417
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:11,100
looking for.

2418
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:13,100
>> this one?

2419
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,100
>> no.

2420
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:16,100
well-- yes.

2421
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:17,100
yes.

2422
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:20,601
you said that was oddly worded.

2423
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:24,100
15 years after mine begins or

2424
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:26,100
20-which ever comes first.

2425
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:29,100
which ever comes first concerns

2426
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:31,100
me, because if 15 years comes

2427
01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:34,100
first then it ends at 15 years.

2428
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,100
>> so, it is 15 years after

2429
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:37,100
mining begins.

2430
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:39,100
in essence, their proposal is

2431
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:41,100
they work on the structural

2432
01:24:41,100 --> 01:24:43,100
plans for the mine and they

2433
01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:44,100
expect that to take 5 or 10

2434
01:24:44,100 --> 01:24:47,100
years, and then at that point

2435
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:51,100
they will start to mine and so,

2436
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:54,100
it will-that 15 year time clock

2437
01:24:54,100 --> 01:24:56,100
or shot clock will start when

2438
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:58,100
they start mining.

2439
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:01,100
if they mine 5 years from now,

2440
01:25:01,100 --> 01:25:04,100
it is a 20 year time limit or

2441
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,100
if they start mining 10 years

2442
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:08,100
from now it is 25 year time

2443
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,100
limit.

2444
01:25:10,100 --> 01:25:13,100
>> why put in 2051 at all?

2445
01:25:15,100 --> 01:25:18,100
>> so, I will say, 2051 does

2446
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:22,401
set a end date.

2447
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:25,401
if structural engineering takes

2448
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:31,100
15 years, they only have 10

2449
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
years left to underground mine

2450
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
the property.

2451
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:35,100
>> if the structural part of it

2452
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:38,100
takes 10 years, then they have

2453
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:41,100
another 15 years on top that.

2454
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,401
less 25 years, rather then--it

2455
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:47,100
seems like one would expire

2456
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:49,100
before the other.

2457
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:51,100
which takes president

2458
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:57,100
>> trying to understand what

2459
01:25:57,100 --> 01:25:58,100
this concern is.

2460
01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:00,100
sorry.

2461
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:05,100
so, if they don't mine at all,

2462
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,401
2051 is the expiration date.

2463
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:10,100
>> okay.

2464
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:13,100
>> if they mine in 5 years,

2465
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:16,100
2046 would be the expiration

2466
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:18,100
date because it is 5 plus the

2467
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:20,100
15 of mining.

2468
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:22,100
or if they started today if

2469
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:24,100
they had all the structural

2470
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:25,100
engineering plans ready and

2471
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:28,100
ready to start mining today, it

2472
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:31,100
would be a 15 year time limit.

2473
01:26:31,100 --> 01:26:32,100
>> got it.

2474
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:33,100
>> we didn't want just a 15

2475
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:35,100
year time limit from the start

2476
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:37,100
of mining, because that would

2477
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:39,100
not put a end date at there

2478
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,100
back end.

2479
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:42,100
there is no back-stop because

2480
01:26:42,100 --> 01:26:43,100
it only starts when they start

2481
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:45,100
mining and they don't mine for

2482
01:26:45,100 --> 01:26:48,100
50 years we wanted a backstop

2483
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:51,100
so we know there is a time

2484
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:53,100
limit of when it would stop at

2485
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:54,100
the very end.

2486
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:57,100
>> you had another time limit

2487
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:00,100
of 10 years on a slide

2488
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,100
someplace.

2489
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:04,100
>> that 10 year time limit is

2490
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:06,100
just for the surface quarrying,

2491
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:08,100
so that starts the day

2492
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:09,100
approved.

2493
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:11,100
they are ready to go on that,

2494
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,100
so they will start quarrying

2495
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:16,100
above ground and they take 10

2496
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:17,100
years.

2497
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:19,100
>> when you say when approved,

2498
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:21,100
is--council?

2499
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:23,100
so they can start that in

2500
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:24,100
november?

2501
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:25,100
>> yes.

2502
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
>> thank you.

2503
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:30,401
>> any additional questions for

2504
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:33,100
staff or applicant?

2505
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:35,100
is the applicant making a

2506
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:37,100
presentation first?

2507
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:38,100
>> yes, sir.

2508
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
>> make your way up mr.

2509
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:41,100
peterson.

2510
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:46,100
>> good evening again chair,

2511
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:48,100
commissioners, kurt peterson,

2512
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:50,401
900 west 48 place, kansas city

2513
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:54,100
missouri here on behalf of the

2514
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:55,100
applicant.

2515
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
again, I have dan jones the

2516
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:58,100
team with us here.

2517
01:27:58,100 --> 01:27:59,100
quickly I like to provide

2518
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,100
context and background for what

2519
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:03,100
really was a incredible amount

2520
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:05,401
maybe record-breaking for me

2521
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:07,100
with professional staff over

2522
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:09,100
the last number of months and

2523
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:10,100
detail and several pages of

2524
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,100
stipulations.

2525
01:28:11,100 --> 01:28:13,100
I feel the back and forth with

2526
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:15,100
what I agree commissioner brown

2527
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:17,100
can be-we all tripped over-what

2528
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,100
are the duration.

2529
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:21,100
very brief I will one last time

2530
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:22,100
have it come out of my mouth

2531
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:24,100
and make remarks so if you

2532
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:26,100
think why are you repeating

2533
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:28,100
just that duplication for

2534
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:29,100
emphasis if you don't mind.

2535
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:31,100
the existing quarry as mr.

2536
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:33,100
jurey indicated has the

2537
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:34,100
indefinite sup.

2538
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:37,100
whatever the shape is, the j on

2539
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:38,100
the screen.

2540
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:39,100
we owned the approximately 110

2541
01:28:39,100 --> 01:28:42,100
acres which is referred as the

2542
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,100
expansion quarry.

2543
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:45,100
we owned the land for about 25

2544
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:47,100
years.

2545
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:49,100
we are ready to begin surface

2546
01:28:49,100 --> 01:28:50,100
quarrying.

2547
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,100
it is subject of this permit

2548
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:54,100
application, but very

2549
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:56,100
importantly, first time period,

2550
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:00,100
from the time it is approved if

2551
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:02,100
approved by council we have 10

2552
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:03,100
years full stop.

2553
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:06,100
if there is surface rock left

2554
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
to get in the surface area in

2555
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:08,100
green on the screen and 10

2556
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:10,100
years expired from the time if

2557
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,100
it is by the city council,

2558
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
tough luck.

2559
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,100
can't get anymore surface

2560
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,100
quarrying out that.

2561
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:18,100
after 10 years, that is it.

2562
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:20,100
no more surface quarrying on

2563
01:29:20,100 --> 01:29:21,100
the expansion quarry.

2564
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:23,100
importantly, after the 10 years

2565
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:25,100
of surface mining, we will

2566
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:27,100
immediately as mr. Jurey made

2567
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,100
quick reference 10 years is up,

2568
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,100
we'll immediately spend two

2569
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:32,100
years on that green property on

2570
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:35,100
the screen and reclaim it.

2571
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:37,100
we get it ready for

2572
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:38,100
development.

2573
01:29:38,100 --> 01:29:39,100
so, that it can be developed in

2574
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:42,100
accordance with the comp plan.

2575
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:44,100
whether that means commercial,

2576
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:47,100
you saw retail in the corner.

2577
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:49,100
it is up to the city whether it

2578
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:50,100
wants park land.

2579
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:51,100
it isn't our decision.

2580
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:52,100
whatever the city wants to do,

2581
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:54,100
we will have it ready and

2582
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,100
reclaimed for the city.

2583
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:58,100
after the 10 years this the key

2584
01:29:58,100 --> 01:29:59,100
second part.

2585
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:00,100
after the 10 year period and we

2586
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:02,100
are reclaiming for two years,

2587
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:05,601
we have been spending it can

2588
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:08,100
take 5, 6, 7, 8 years engineers

2589
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:11,100
and tunneling and wide enough

2590
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:13,100
to bring rock out can be a

2591
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,100
decade.

2592
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:16,100
the bottom line, the most we

2593
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:17,100
can be doing underground there

2594
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,100
from a deadline perspective

2595
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:22,100
under the green area is the

2596
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:25,100
most it could be is if we get

2597
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,100
to the 10 year period on the

2598
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:29,100
surface and the next day we

2599
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,100
started spend all the time to

2600
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:32,100
get there and started

2601
01:30:32,100 --> 01:30:34,100
underground mining we have 15

2602
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:35,100
years and if you add that up

2603
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:36,100
that is how you get the

2604
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:38,100
december 31, 2051 date.

2605
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:40,100
if we get there earlier and

2606
01:30:40,100 --> 01:30:41,100
started earlier this was the

2607
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:44,100
provision to protect the city.

2608
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,100
it wasn't our request.

2609
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:47,100
we just said that and staff

2610
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:49,100
said, no, what if you get in

2611
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:51,100
there earlier then 10 years on

2612
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:52,100
the surface doing your business

2613
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,100
and but underground and got

2614
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:56,100
faster then you thought, you

2615
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:58,100
only get 15 years because that

2616
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:00,100
happens before 20fib2051.

2617
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:04,100
hopefully we are crystal clear

2618
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:06,100
on the time limits.

2619
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:09,100
so, all that is just quick

2620
01:31:09,100 --> 01:31:10,100
context and backgrounds for the

2621
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:11,100
why.

2622
01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:14,100
we are asking and what.

2623
01:31:15,100 --> 01:31:16,100
what are we doing?

2624
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:17,100
the last remaining issue I

2625
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:19,100
wanted to touch on because we

2626
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,100
spent months and months working

2627
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:23,100
on it is the how.

2628
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:25,100
how are we going to do this on

2629
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:28,100
that 109 acres in green on the

2630
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:29,100
screen there?

2631
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:31,100
above ground and underground.

2632
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:32,100
from the beginning when we

2633
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:34,100
first conceived this and

2634
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:36,100
started internally coming up

2635
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:38,401
with thesis statements and

2636
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:40,100
commitments we had a meeting

2637
01:31:40,100 --> 01:31:41,100
with the neighborhoods to the

2638
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:42,100
north and northwest well

2639
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,100
attended and then we met with

2640
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:45,100
city staff and worked for a

2641
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:47,100
long time with city staff and

2642
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:49,100
the planning commission.

2643
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:52,100
we dedicated to one thesis

2644
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:54,100
statement we mean it.

2645
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:56,100
said this and now here before

2646
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:57,100
you and the council.

2647
01:31:57,100 --> 01:32:00,100
if we don't make the situation

2648
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,100
better off for the community,

2649
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,100
if you don't think we are

2650
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,100
making it better off through

2651
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:07,100
everything we propose through 2

2652
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:08,100
and a half pages of

2653
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:10,100
stipulations from staff

2654
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
probably shouldn't support it.

2655
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:13,100
if we make it better off then

2656
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:15,100
continue with sup meeting all

2657
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:16,100
legal obligations we do today

2658
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:19,100
and always will, think it is

2659
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,100
pretty compelling to support

2660
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:24,100
this and make it better off.

2661
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:26,100
as we developed our detailed

2662
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,100
operational plans and

2663
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:29,100
commitments, that are translate

2664
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:31,100
under to this lengthy proposed

2665
01:32:31,100 --> 01:32:33,100
stipulation by staff, we are

2666
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:35,100
trying to create overall

2667
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:37,100
operation overall the

2668
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:39,100
application hearing now and you

2669
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:42,100
heard a few minutes ago,

2670
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:43,100
something that is dramatically

2671
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,401
better operated from dust,

2672
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,100
blasting and everything you can

2673
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:49,100
think of then what we have

2674
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:50,100
today.

2675
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:53,100
and, the standard met is we

2676
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,100
will be the quarry that is the

2677
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:56,100
best operated quarry in the

2678
01:32:56,100 --> 01:32:57,100
quarry that everybody looks to

2679
01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:01,201
not only in the city olathe but

2680
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,100
entire metro.

2681
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:06,100
so, rather then regurgitate

2682
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:08,100
staff's presentation, the staff

2683
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:10,100
report all the stipulations and

2684
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,100
lengthy dust control plan, I

2685
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:13,100
thought I just close with

2686
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,100
mentioning a couple high level

2687
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:16,100
points to bring it back and of

2688
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:19,100
course there is a couple

2689
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:21,100
unanswered questions I will

2690
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:22,100
answer too.

2691
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:23,100
please ask questions because

2692
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:24,100
there is a lot of substance and

2693
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:26,100
if unanswered I want to address

2694
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:27,100
those.

2695
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,100
we focus on these areas, mr.

2696
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:32,100
jurey had a similar list.

2697
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:34,100
dust control and air quality,

2698
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,100
blasting related conditions,

2699
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:37,401
screening, 159 street you heard

2700
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:43,100
a resident medication it and

2701
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:44,100
testing, report ing and

2702
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:46,100
transparency related items.

2703
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:48,100
and we gather input and didn't

2704
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:50,100
have what is in front of you

2705
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:52,100
now on day one.

2706
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:54,100
we didn't as staff will attest

2707
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:57,100
it changed and enhanced and

2708
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,100
substantiated and picked up

2709
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:00,100
feedback from the neighborhood

2710
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:02,100
meeting we had, we heard a lot

2711
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:03,100
there.

2712
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:05,100
helpful and changed a lot.

2713
01:34:05,100 --> 01:34:06,100
we heard from city staff over

2714
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:08,100
the last number of months, from

2715
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:11,100
county officials because we did

2716
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:13,100
have a regulatory body that

2717
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:15,100
knows the quarry well and

2718
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:16,100
consulted with experts there

2719
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:18,100
and third party engineering

2720
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:20,100
consultant the author of the

2721
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,100
2023 baseline study and also

2722
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,100
dust control plan in your

2723
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:24,100
packet.

2724
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:27,100
and of course, we consulted

2725
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:29,100
with all the employees out

2726
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:31,100
there at if quarry every day.

2727
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:33,100
how could we do better at this

2728
01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:34,100
and put all that together and

2729
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,100
that lead to what you have here

2730
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
today.

2731
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,100
the result that is the proposed

2732
01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:40,100
stipulations and associated

2733
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:41,100
plan sheets that is part of

2734
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,100
this sup application before

2735
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:44,100
you.

2736
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:45,100
so, with great confidence I

2737
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:46,100
will say this in closing, I

2738
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:49,100
assure you that what is before

2739
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:51,100
you will make the surrounding

2740
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:52,100
community better through all

2741
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:54,100
the details and that it will be

2742
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:56,100
much better then meeting legal

2743
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:57,100
requirements under the status

2744
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:59,100
quo that goes on for a really

2745
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:00,100
long time.

2746
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:01,100
and as I said a moment ago,

2747
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:04,100
this quarry undeniably will be

2748
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,100
the leader and what is looked

2749
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:06,100
to as the standard in olathe

2750
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:08,100
and lot of cities in the area.

2751
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,100
quick pivot to few unanswered

2752
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:12,100
questions commission, if that

2753
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:14,100
is okay from the dais.

2754
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:16,100
commissioner bergida, you asked

2755
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:18,100
this is our differed question

2756
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:21,100
answer to start, I took away

2757
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:22,100
from your question from the

2758
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:25,100
last hearing was, show me the

2759
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:27,100
residents are better off from a

2760
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:29,100
blasting perspective and I felt

2761
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,100
you said and just overall how

2762
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:34,100
the residents are better off.

2763
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:37,100
you can build on that.

2764
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:39,100
>> not necessarily better off,

2765
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:42,100
but how will it impact

2766
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:43,100
differently.

2767
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:45,100
>> saying the same thing, but I

2768
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:47,100
understand what you are saying.

2769
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:48,100
when it comes to blasting

2770
01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:50,100
because dust and blasting I

2771
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,100
would say were the number one

2772
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:56,100
and two issues raised add the

2773
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:57,100
neighborhood meeting.

2774
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:59,100
take blasting first.

2775
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:02,100
staff put up a couple slides

2776
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:04,100
and there were question answer

2777
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:05,100
about it and I will identify

2778
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:06,100
what that was.

2779
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:07,100
that was the blast study done

2780
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:09,100
by our blasting expert.

2781
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,100
that is here if we want to get

2782
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,100
into the weeds.

2783
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:16,100
and, what it showed is

2784
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:20,100
two-summarize it in two ways.

2785
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:22,100
I would say that first, what

2786
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:24,100
the blasting study found is

2787
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:27,100
that, in the worst case

2788
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:30,100
vibration scenario and say that

2789
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:32,100
because you imagine how deep a

2790
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:35,100
blast is, they take two

2791
01:36:35,100 --> 01:36:37,100
different standards and take

2792
01:36:37,100 --> 01:36:38,100
the most conservative.

2793
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:40,100
the one that can make things

2794
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:41,100
look the worst.

2795
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,100
if you look at on the spectrum

2796
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:45,100
what the worst estimated

2797
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:47,100
vibration is, here is the

2798
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:49,100
conclusion:that the

2799
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:51,100
nearest-they look what is

2800
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:54,100
closest, the near structures is

2801
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:58,100
vibration less then half the

2802
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:01,100
united states bureau mines, the

2803
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:03,100
internationally accepted

2804
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:04,100
standard.

2805
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:05,100
less then half the ground

2806
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:06,100
vibration limit.

2807
01:37:06,100 --> 01:37:07,100
just get context.

2808
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:09,100
remember how we saw the last 6

2809
01:37:09,100 --> 01:37:11,100
months of vibrations on the one

2810
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:13,100
table some time tonight and the

2811
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,100
triangle and x was down here.

2812
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,100
it is a saying that st. The

2813
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:18,100
estimated result here.

2814
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:21,100
and the other notable result

2815
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:22,100
from the study done on what

2816
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:24,100
will happen with blasting

2817
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:26,100
again, this hearing the green

2818
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,100
the 110 acres in the northwest

2819
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:31,100
corner is that, the conclusion

2820
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:33,100
was the blasting ranges and

2821
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,100
worst case scenario are in the

2822
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,100
similar range they are today

2823
01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:38,100
when we blast all the way over

2824
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:40,100
and this builds on the next

2825
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:41,100
commissioner bergida good

2826
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:43,401
question, where we are

2827
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:45,100
blasting-doing my hand like you

2828
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:48,100
can see, where it says, m2 over

2829
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:50,100
there, and so I transition into

2830
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:51,100
that.

2831
01:37:51,100 --> 01:37:53,100
again, similar ranges.

2832
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:55,100
not worse off which is the

2833
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
essence if I understand the

2834
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:57,100
question.

2835
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:59,100
then I want to transition

2836
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:01,100
because you asked another good

2837
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:03,401
question during this hearing.

2838
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,100
you were talking distances and

2839
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:07,100
were like, show me the relative

2840
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:09,100
distances and thought one of

2841
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:11,100
your questions because I think

2842
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:12,100
staff was addressing your

2843
01:38:12,100 --> 01:38:13,100
question, but another part of

2844
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:15,100
the question was, you

2845
01:38:15,100 --> 01:38:16,100
remembered seeing a slide that

2846
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:19,100
showed that we have blasting

2847
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:20,100
today.

2848
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:23,100
this is the existing quarry

2849
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:25,100
think of the middle purple

2850
01:38:25,100 --> 01:38:28,100
where m2 is and your brain

2851
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:29,100
tells you the distances are

2852
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,100
farther then when you go to the

2853
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:33,100
green ag.

2854
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:35,100
again, I am formulating that

2855
01:38:35,100 --> 01:38:37,100
because I think it is a really

2856
01:38:37,100 --> 01:38:38,100
good question you have and the

2857
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:41,100
answer is, again, I so you

2858
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,100
don't just believe kurt

2859
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:45,401
peterson, spent months and

2860
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:48,100
months putting this together

2861
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:50,100
but I have a vibration expert

2862
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:52,100
the author here, the essence is

2863
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:55,100
this, the reason we have ranges

2864
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:58,601
and city formula, which it says

2865
01:39:00,100 --> 01:39:02,100
how much you can blast looks at

2866
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,100
distance, but looks at the

2867
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:06,401
power of the blast.

2868
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,100
what does that mean?

2869
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:12,100
we use larger charges in the

2870
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:15,601
middle of the site to stay

2871
01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:18,100
below half of what is

2872
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:19,100
permitted.

2873
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:20,100
as we move closer whether that

2874
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:22,100
be surface or undergrounds, our

2875
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:24,100
blast have to back off more and

2876
01:39:24,100 --> 01:39:26,100
more and more and it is

2877
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:28,401
designed in a unbelievably

2878
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,100
meticulous way.

2879
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:31,100
if I'm a neighbor this is I

2880
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:33,100
would be thinking, would be

2881
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:37,100
that is nice but you showed a

2882
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:38,100
study it stays in the same

2883
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:40,100
vibration range back to the

2884
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:42,100
question, but how do we know

2885
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:44,100
that is what will happen?

2886
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:45,100
and the important part we have

2887
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:48,100
a stipulation and I linked this

2888
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:51,100
to udo, our seismic monitors

2889
01:39:52,100 --> 01:39:54,100
have to report that to the fire

2890
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:56,100
marshal and that is tracked

2891
01:39:56,100 --> 01:39:58,100
back to the vibration levels we

2892
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
tell we will operate at.

2893
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
we have to do that.

2894
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:02,100
that is part of the approval.

2895
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:05,100
so, I want to close-this is a

2896
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:06,100
comment for the public.

2897
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,100
I thought it was worthwhile

2898
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:10,100
chair to mention this quickly.

2899
01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:11,100
we had a back and forth at the

2900
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,100
neighborhood meeting where

2901
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:16,100
really like true understanding

2902
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:17,100
that we don't know who was

2903
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:21,201
talking to mr.-we are in a

2904
01:40:31,100 --> 01:40:32,100
different place and not just

2905
01:40:32,100 --> 01:40:35,100
believe us t is ask

2906
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:37,100
professional staff as suggested

2907
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:38,100
will you do this, yeah.

2908
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:40,100
90 percent-will you do that?

2909
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:41,100
sure.

2910
01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:42,100
will you do this?

2911
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:44,100
we may need to tweak it.

2912
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,100
we didn't stop and also said

2913
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:48,100
okay-please put it in

2914
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:49,100
stipulation.

2915
01:40:49,100 --> 01:40:50,100
we have to live by it and do

2916
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,100
the reporting and meetings and

2917
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:53,100
have to make it publicly

2918
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:54,100
available to the city.

2919
01:40:54,100 --> 01:40:55,100
we are not hiding from anything

2920
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:58,100
so apologize on behalf of

2921
01:40:58,100 --> 01:41:00,100
whoever that was that gave that

2922
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:01,100
experience but that is

2923
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:04,100
absolutely not what will happen

2924
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:05,100
if approved given all the

2925
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:07,100
stipulations we have to live

2926
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:08,100
by.

2927
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,100
with that chair, happy to

2928
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:10,100
answer any questions.

2929
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:11,100
>> any questions for the

2930
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,100
applicant?

2931
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:16,100
>> one more question.

2932
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:18,100
>> go ahead, commissioner

2933
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:19,100
brown.

2934
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:21,100
>> we have been told that the

2935
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:22,100
majority of the dust is created

2936
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:24,100
by the crusher.

2937
01:41:28,100 --> 01:41:31,100
the movement of the dust is a

2938
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,100
function of the wind obviously.

2939
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,100
can you tell us where on this

2940
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:37,100
slide that crusher actually

2941
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:38,100
exists?

2942
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:39,100
>> I would be happy to.

2943
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:41,100
there is a slide that circles

2944
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:42,100
it.

2945
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:44,401
do I control that?

2946
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:49,100
just if you dont mind, I will

2947
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:50,100
address while getting the slide

2948
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:51,100
up.

2949
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:54,601
one from the very beginning one

2950
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:57,100
item we like to be held to is

2951
01:41:57,100 --> 01:41:59,100
that is where the crusher

2952
01:41:59,100 --> 01:42:00,100
stays.

2953
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:01,100
it doesn't move closer to the

2954
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:03,100
neighbors and stays right

2955
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:05,100
there.

2956
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:21,100
>> in the middle of the

2957
01:42:21,100 --> 01:42:22,100
property?

2958
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:23,100
>> yes, sir.

2959
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:24,100
>> commissioner seeling.

2960
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:25,100
>> there was another slide that

2961
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:26,100
showed a picture of the crusher

2962
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:28,100
and dust control measures put

2963
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,100
on it.

2964
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,100
can you explain what that is we

2965
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:32,100
are looking at?

2966
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:35,100
>> I know what you are thinking

2967
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:36,100
of, yes.

2968
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:38,100
we have two nationally known

2969
01:42:38,100 --> 01:42:40,100
companies for dust mitigation

2970
01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:42,100
related to crushers, and we

2971
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:45,100
actually this is the busy

2972
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:47,401
season because crushers break,

2973
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:49,100
but we got on the books several

2974
01:42:49,100 --> 01:42:52,100
months ago for them to come and

2975
01:42:52,100 --> 01:42:54,100
we have been dealing with them

2976
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:57,100
remotely and so we are warmed

2977
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:59,100
up with them but they are

2978
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:00,100
coming this week and

2979
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:02,100
immediately going to the very

2980
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:03,100
specifics of what we are

2981
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:04,100
ordering to meet the deadline

2982
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:07,100
having the crusher enhanced by

2983
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:11,100
whatever it is, june 1 or july

2984
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:12,100
1.

2985
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:13,100
whatever is in the record.

2986
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:15,100
it is summer coming up.

2987
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:18,100
while the finest details will

2988
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:22,100
be substantial.

2989
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:23,100
I think the one I highlight the

2990
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:24,100
most we talked with

2991
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:25,100
professional staff about is

2992
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:28,100
that the-dan will kick me if I

2993
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:30,100
get terms slightly wrong, but

2994
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:33,100
the most dust created on the

2995
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:36,100
within the crusher at the

2996
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:38,100
transfer points and so the

2997
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:41,100
transfer points we are looking

2998
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:44,100
at able to enclose them which

2999
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:46,100
is good way oo have a fail safe

3000
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:47,100
to mitigate dust.

3001
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:50,100
that was the biggest leaps

3002
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:53,401
forward in the improvements.

3003
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:56,100
>> what do you expect the

3004
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:58,100
measures to produce?

3005
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:59,100
>> the neighbors asked the same

3006
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:00,100
question.

3007
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,100
fair question.

3008
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:02,100
because we have people that are

3009
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:05,100
not going to hyperbolize, it is

3010
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:06,100
really hard.

3011
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:08,100
going back to the baseline, you

3012
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:10,100
can't know until we have a

3013
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:11,100
baseline.

3014
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:13,100
we have a good baseline and

3015
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:15,100
there is significant dollars

3016
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:16,100
going toward this.

3017
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:18,100
there will be a huge

3018
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:19,100
difference.

3019
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:20,100
>> sounds measurable?

3020
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:22,100
>> it will be measurable.

3021
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:24,100
>> thank you, sir.

3022
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
>> any additional questions?

3023
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:27,100
commissioner bergida.

3024
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:28,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

3025
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,100
we will go back to distances

3026
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:31,100
and just the same way you

3027
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:32,100
repeated things just to make

3028
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:34,100
sure we are on the same page.

3029
01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:35,100
I'm doing it one more time just

3030
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:36,100
to make sure.

3031
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:38,100
>> doesn't bother me.

3032
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:39,100
>> there has been no

3033
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:41,401
subterranean blasting to date?

3034
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,100
>> correct.

3035
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:47,100
>> of the existing mining area.

3036
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:50,401
the closest under ground

3037
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:54,100
blasting is 1250?

3038
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:55,100
>> I will say this and ask

3039
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:56,100
staff with a exhibit and say

3040
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:58,401
this-I have the control.

3041
01:45:00,100 --> 01:45:02,100
let's start with this and build

3042
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:03,100
to get to the answer to the

3043
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:04,100
question.

3044
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:06,401
when there is underground

3045
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,100
blasting per udo there is a

3046
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:12,100
setback of 200 feet.

3047
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:13,100
let's start there.

3048
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:14,100
whatever the measurement is you

3049
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:17,100
are asking is at the 200 foot

3050
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:18,100
line.

3051
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:20,100
to repeat back, the question

3052
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
you are asking is, what is the

3053
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:23,100
closest distance we get from

3054
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:25,100
the 200 foot line.

3055
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:27,100
the closest blast to the

3056
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:28,100
closest structure is the

3057
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,100
question?

3058
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:30,100
>> that is correct.

3059
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:31,100
>> I can get that.

3060
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:33,100
>> not from the road, but-

3061
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:35,100
>> I will give you a answer and

3062
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:37,100
while I look for it also say

3063
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:38,100
that is the very thing we

3064
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:40,100
studied and what I explained

3065
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:42,100
the two findings from the blast

3066
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:44,100
study, not making it worse.

3067
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:46,100
but I'll give the measurement

3068
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:47,100
in 10 seconds.

3069
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:49,100
>> while you are doing it if we

3070
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:51,401
can, currently the closest

3071
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
surface level blasting going on

3072
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,601
is 1550 and with the new area

3073
01:46:00,100 --> 01:46:02,100
it would be 1217?

3074
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:05,100
>> okay, if you have grace with

3075
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:06,100
compound questions, do you mind

3076
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:09,100
if do the first one?

3077
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,100
>> not at all.

3078
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:12,100
>> the answer to the question

3079
01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:13,100
in the blast study this is

3080
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,401
exhibit there, for underground

3081
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:18,100
mining to the closest

3082
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:21,100
structure, which is--do I have

3083
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:23,100
a cursor?

3084
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:26,601
which is the structure in this

3085
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:29,100
area and second closest is

3086
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:30,100
here.

3087
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:31,100
I will give both distances and

3088
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:33,100
measure from the closest point

3089
01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:36,100
at the 200 foot setback for

3090
01:46:36,100 --> 01:46:37,100
underground blast.

3091
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:39,100
we are on the same page.

3092
01:46:39,100 --> 01:46:41,100
the answer is, to the closest

3093
01:46:41,100 --> 01:46:44,100
structure is 611 feet and then

3094
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:49,100
the--while we talk about these

3095
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:54,100
from surface the thousand foot

3096
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:57,100
setback to the same home is

3097
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:58,100
1217 feet.

3098
01:46:58,100 --> 01:46:59,100
>> okay.

3099
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:01,100
so, I was off 50 feet.

3100
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:04,601
on the existing though, is that

3101
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:07,100
for-I know it hasn't happened

3102
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:10,100
yet, but subterranean would be

3103
01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:12,100
1250, is that accurate?

3104
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:15,100
and then what has been done is

3105
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:17,100
1550 on the surface?

3106
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
>> do I have that-do you have

3107
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:23,100
the measurement?

3108
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:25,100
from the existing if we do 200

3109
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:26,100
foot setback do we have a

3110
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,100
measurement?

3111
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:30,100
>> it is further away

3112
01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:31,100
[inaudible]

3113
01:47:31,100 --> 01:47:33,100
>> I'll repeat it.

3114
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,100
for everybody to hear--

3115
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:38,100
>> tony, just to answer the

3116
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:40,100
question, the measurements I

3117
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:42,100
provided those were

3118
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:44,100
measurements I took off of our

3119
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:47,100
mapping software and based on

3120
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:48,100
the setbacks of the existing

3121
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:51,100
quarry that were shown yes, it

3122
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:53,401
was 1250 from the underground

3123
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:57,100
to the nearest structure and

3124
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:59,401
1550 from the surface quarry

3125
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,100
limits.

3126
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:02,100
>> okay.

3127
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:04,100
we are talking about the 333

3128
01:48:04,100 --> 01:48:07,601
foot change on above ground and

3129
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:10,401
underground we are talking 639?

3130
01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:14,100
is that accurate?

3131
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:16,100
>> I cant do math in my head

3132
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:18,100
like that, sounds about right.

3133
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:20,100
>> close enough.

3134
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:23,100
why is the subterranean closer

3135
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:26,100
then the surface?

3136
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:28,100
is it just because the rocks

3137
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:29,100
are there?

3138
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:30,100
why is that?

3139
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:32,100
right now from my reading of

3140
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:35,601
the report it goes up to .12

3141
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:39,100
and 10, 15 years from now it

3142
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:41,401
could go up to .17.

3143
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:43,100
I don't know if that is a huge

3144
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:44,100
difference, but other readings

3145
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:46,100
are .02.

3146
01:48:46,100 --> 01:48:48,100
>> it is not.

3147
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:51,100
again, we have expert here but

3148
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:53,100
likely not perceivable.

3149
01:48:55,100 --> 01:48:57,100
we did this on purpose, find

3150
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:58,100
the closest place.

3151
01:48:58,100 --> 01:49:00,100
that reading worse case

3152
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:01,100
scenario likely not perceivable

3153
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:03,100
is just the one house and

3154
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:05,100
nothing else, but we wanted to

3155
01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:07,100
still show that.

3156
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:09,100
and back it your just being

3157
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:11,100
able to picture this, the

3158
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:12,100
underground while you don't

3159
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:14,100
know until you finish the 5, 6,

3160
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:15,100
7 years of engineering is

3161
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:17,401
likely gets into 300 to 400

3162
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:20,100
foot deep and back to what I

3163
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:22,100
talked about blasting, it is

3164
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:24,100
really important to visualize

3165
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:27,100
in our mind the blasting is so

3166
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:30,100
much smaller in terms of

3167
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,100
charge.

3168
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:33,100
again, I heard-I wont say on

3169
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,100
the record, but I heard from

3170
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:38,100
the blasting expertise is one

3171
01:49:38,100 --> 01:49:40,100
and divided by big number

3172
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:42,100
compared to surface blasting in

3173
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:44,100
the middle of the site.

3174
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:46,401
>> [inaudible] in this table?

3175
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:50,100
the charge weight what you are

3176
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:51,100
talking about?

3177
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:52,100
the strength of the blast?

3178
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:54,100
the 85 versus-

3179
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:56,100
>>b it is listed in the table

3180
01:49:56,100 --> 01:49:58,100
underpinning all the analysis

3181
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,100
of the blast study to show this

3182
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,100
isn't going to change current

3183
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:03,100
conditions.

3184
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:04,100
>> okay.

3185
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:05,100
thank you.

3186
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:07,100
>> thank you.

3187
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:09,100
>> any additional questions for

3188
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:11,100
the applicant?

3189
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:18,100
thank you.

3190
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:19,100
>> thank you.

3191
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:20,100
>> we'll move forward now to

3192
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:22,100
the public hearing, which is a

3193
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:25,100
good opportunity for me to

3194
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:26,100
review some things we talked

3195
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:29,100
about earlier in the meeting.

3196
01:50:29,100 --> 01:50:30,100
I know through going through

3197
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:32,100
multiple public hearings, it

3198
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
sounds like we are hearing a

3199
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
lot of the same thing.

3200
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:36,100
we are talking about dust and

3201
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:39,100
blasting and distances and it

3202
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:40,100
is all important.

3203
01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:42,100
as we get up into the public

3204
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,100
hearing, the primary purpose of

3205
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:45,100
this is hearing new

3206
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:46,100
information.

3207
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:49,100
what have we not heard that we

3208
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:50,100
need to take into consideration

3209
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:52,401
as we move forward?

3210
01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:56,100
in honor of everybody's time,

3211
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,100
we are not looking to repeat

3212
01:50:58,100 --> 01:50:59,100
what is already said.

3213
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:01,100
so, just keep that in mind as

3214
01:51:01,100 --> 01:51:02,100
you go.

3215
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:03,100
this is of course the public

3216
01:51:03,100 --> 01:51:05,100
hearing everybody signed up

3217
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:06,100
for, so we have a longer list

3218
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:08,100
of names here.

3219
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:09,100
it goes in procedures how it

3220
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:11,100
works.

3221
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:13,100
call the speaker up and also

3222
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:15,100
call up the person next that is

3223
01:51:15,100 --> 01:51:16,100
after them.

3224
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:18,100
I appreciate if both of you

3225
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:20,100
come up and second person could

3226
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:21,100
be at the chair next to the

3227
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,100
podium so we can roll right

3228
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:24,100
into the next speaker and keep

3229
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:27,100
that moving in honor of

3230
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:29,100
everyone's time.

3231
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:32,100
move forward on that so-it is

3232
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,100
same rules as far as stating

3233
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:36,100
your name, address for the

3234
01:51:36,100 --> 01:51:38,401
record, please observe the

3235
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:40,100
clock and work with that as

3236
01:51:40,100 --> 01:51:43,100
well and we'll get through this

3237
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:46,601
and figure how we move forward.

3238
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:50,100
so, starting off on the public

3239
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,100
hearing I will now open the

3240
01:51:52,100 --> 01:51:54,100
public hearing.

3241
01:51:55,100 --> 01:51:58,100
mr. Quackenbush you are first

3242
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:01,100
on the list again.

3243
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:04,100
nancy bottle is listed second.

3244
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:07,100
when I do call your name, if

3245
01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:09,100
you are opting to pass because

3246
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:11,100
your comments have been made,

3247
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:14,601
let me know at that time.

3248
01:52:21,100 --> 01:52:22,100
>> just have to finish what I

3249
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:23,100
started in the first one.

3250
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:25,100
during the august meeting, the

3251
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:27,401
quarry staff indicated they

3252
01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:31,601
would deed city land to allow

3253
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:34,100
151 street to go straight

3254
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:35,100
through.

3255
01:52:35,100 --> 01:52:37,100
that is something we haven't

3256
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:38,100
heard before.

3257
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:40,401
they also promised 2 or $3

3258
01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:43,100
million to do something for the

3259
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:45,401
intersection at 56 highway and

3260
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:50,401
lake shore drive and 151.

3261
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:54,601
now, first, I haven't heard a

3262
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:57,100
single person from our

3263
01:52:57,100 --> 01:52:58,100
neighborhood or the other

3264
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,100
neighborhood that thinks that

3265
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:03,100
any that is important to the

3266
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:04,100
neighborhood.

3267
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:08,100
it sounds like a bribe to the

3268
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:10,100
planning commission.

3269
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:12,100
thank you.

3270
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:15,100
>> thank you.

3271
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:18,100
nancy, followed by assume her

3272
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:20,100
husband, douglas.

3273
01:53:25,100 --> 01:53:28,100
if I mispronounce your name,

3274
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:30,100
ask for forgiveness up front.

3275
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:32,100
>> nancy.

3276
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:36,401
14084 south lake stone drive.

3277
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:38,100
thank you for listening to us

3278
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:39,100
today.

3279
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:40,100
we have members of the

3280
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:42,100
community of city olathe and I

3281
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:45,601
think what you haven't heard is

3282
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:48,100
what we have try to come up

3283
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:49,100
with time to work through

3284
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:51,401
ourselves without having the

3285
01:53:52,100 --> 01:53:54,100
opportunities to for this to be

3286
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:56,100
our jobs where we have the time

3287
01:53:56,100 --> 01:53:58,100
to put together lots of stuff,

3288
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,100
so maybe haven't gotten many

3289
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:02,100
things from many of us, but we

3290
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:04,100
have not been derelict trying

3291
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:05,100
to come up with information to

3292
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:07,100
share with you.

3293
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,100
forgive me while I read my

3294
01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:11,100
chicken scratch.

3295
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:13,100
I'm glad some city planners

3296
01:54:13,100 --> 01:54:16,100
have pre approval but you

3297
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:20,100
haven't gotten pre approval

3298
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:21,100
from citizens.

3299
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,100
some of our planning include

3300
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:24,100
things taking care of our

3301
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:25,100
families.

3302
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:26,100
we have 5 generations of

3303
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:29,100
families in the area, and we

3304
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:32,601
are taking care of young to

3305
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:34,100
old.

3306
01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:35,100
some getting parents moving in

3307
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,100
with us and they are sensitive

3308
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:38,100
to some of the dust levels and

3309
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:40,100
some of the noise levels and

3310
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:42,100
part reason we like the

3311
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:44,100
community and being outside of

3312
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:46,100
it is the fact that it is a

3313
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:48,100
little more quite and we are

3314
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:50,100
happy community that are very

3315
01:54:50,100 --> 01:54:52,401
communicative with each other

3316
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:54,100
and plan things together with

3317
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:57,100
each other and we try to share

3318
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:58,100
everything with all those

3319
01:54:58,100 --> 01:55:00,100
around us, but our plans are

3320
01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:01,100
our standards and not industry

3321
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:03,100
standards.

3322
01:55:03,100 --> 01:55:04,100
communities citizen standards

3323
01:55:04,100 --> 01:55:06,100
are for communities and

3324
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:07,100
citizens and we depend on you

3325
01:55:07,100 --> 01:55:09,100
the planning commission and the

3326
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:11,100
city and county of olathe or

3327
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:13,100
johnson county and olathe city

3328
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:16,100
to take care of us.

3329
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:18,100
but, industry standards are set

3330
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:20,100
to take care of the industry.

3331
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:22,100
if this quarry has been around

3332
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:25,100
since the 1800 hundreds how old

3333
01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:27,100
are?

3334
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:28,100
standards?

3335
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:30,100
I know they get updated, not a

3336
01:55:30,100 --> 01:55:32,100
fool, but standards are set in

3337
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:33,100
place to take care of the

3338
01:55:33,100 --> 01:55:35,100
industry and not to take care

3339
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:36,100
of the community and the

3340
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:38,100
citizens around them.

3341
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:41,100
I like you to take that into

3342
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:43,100
account when you think this

3343
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:44,100
goes forward.

3344
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:47,100
the community is directly cross

3345
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:51,100
from this piece.

3346
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:54,100
the rest of the property is

3347
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:55,100
here.

3348
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:57,100
we are directly across the

3349
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:59,100
street from this expansion plan

3350
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:02,100
and it does have a impact.

3351
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:04,100
my husband is recently become a

3352
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:05,100
house husband and he called me

3353
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,100
the other day and wanted to

3354
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:07,100
know what the noise was in the

3355
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:08,100
middle of the day.

3356
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:09,100
not kidding.

3357
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:12,100
it was what you think it might

3358
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100
be.

3359
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:14,100
blasting.

3360
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,100
it was first time he had

3361
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:17,100
realized that sound and it

3362
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:18,100
surprised him enough he brought

3363
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,100
it up to me.

3364
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:21,100
please keep in mind that

3365
01:56:21,100 --> 01:56:23,100
citizen plans and citizen

3366
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:24,100
standards are probably

3367
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:25,100
different then industry

3368
01:56:25,100 --> 01:56:28,100
standards and I ask you to

3369
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:29,100
think who they help.

3370
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,100
one thing that maybe you also

3371
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:33,100
haven't heard is creating a

3372
01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:35,401
problem that doesn't exist.

3373
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:38,100
why I didn't hear you bring up

3374
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,100
the fact what we heard in the

3375
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:42,401
neighborhood meetings was money

3376
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:44,100
would be give toon the planning

3377
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:46,100
committee or city olathe that

3378
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:49,100
was going to help this

3379
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:50,100
intersection, but it was also

3380
01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:52,100
said in the next breath that

3381
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:54,100
the city could do with it that

3382
01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:56,401
money whatever it wanted.

3383
01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:58,100
okay.

3384
01:56:58,100 --> 01:57:00,100
then it isn't to fix a problem

3385
01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:02,100
that doesn't exist.

3386
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:04,100
meaning, the intersection

3387
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:06,100
there.

3388
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:07,100
it is for something else and I

3389
01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:08,100
ask the question of what that

3390
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:09,100
would be for.

3391
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:11,100
it does look bad on the city

3392
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:14,100
olathe ultimately if monies are

3393
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:16,100
given for a problem that does

3394
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:17,100
not exist.

3395
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:19,100
lastly, I guess I like to bring

3396
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:21,100
up the fact I haven't heard

3397
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:23,100
from anybody I find it quite

3398
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:25,401
honesty disheartening that the

3399
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:28,100
city olathe would consider and

3400
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:29,100
all due respect the planning

3401
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:31,100
commission would consider

3402
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:33,100
putting your citizens health

3403
01:57:33,100 --> 01:57:35,100
and the way we raise our

3404
01:57:35,100 --> 01:57:36,100
families and try to interact

3405
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:38,100
and be proactive in our

3406
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:39,100
communities and you put us at

3407
01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:43,201
risk at the benefit of what, in

3408
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:48,100
return for monies or maybe

3409
01:57:48,100 --> 01:57:50,100
potentially the plot of land to

3410
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:53,100
come back to the city of olathe

3411
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:56,100
that can't have land put or big

3412
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:57,100
property put on it because we

3413
01:57:57,100 --> 01:57:59,100
heard that tonight.

3414
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:00,100
maybe it can have a pond or

3415
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:01,100
walkway.

3416
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:03,100
I love our parks and trails in

3417
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:04,100
the area.

3418
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:05,100
I have friends that work on

3419
01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:06,100
them and keep them updated.

3420
01:58:06,100 --> 01:58:09,601
I think they are beautiful, but

3421
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:12,100
in the next breath they can do

3422
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:13,100
with this whatever they want

3423
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:16,100
when it is given back to them.

3424
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:18,100
a lot of good that does me now.

3425
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:20,100
I do have to live with the

3426
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:21,100
sound of there blasting and

3427
01:58:21,100 --> 01:58:23,100
even though it does fall within

3428
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:25,100
industry standards, who do

3429
01:58:25,100 --> 01:58:26,100
those benefit?

3430
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:28,100
so, please keep in mind the

3431
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:30,100
industry standards and who they

3432
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:33,100
benefit that please don't put

3433
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:37,601
the city and any monies they

3434
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:39,100
might get ahead of our

3435
01:58:39,100 --> 01:58:40,100
citizens.

3436
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:41,100
thank you.

3437
01:58:41,100 --> 01:58:43,100
>> thank you nancy.

3438
01:58:43,100 --> 01:58:46,601
doug is next and marybeth mora,

3439
01:58:47,100 --> 01:58:50,100
if you can make your way up.

3440
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:52,100
>> doug.

3441
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:54,401
1404 south lake stone olathe.

3442
01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:59,100
can you all hear me okay?

3443
01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:00,100
great.

3444
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:01,100
thank you very much for

3445
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:02,100
inviting us and letting us

3446
01:59:02,100 --> 01:59:04,100
speak on our behalf and

3447
01:59:04,100 --> 01:59:06,100
addressing you.

3448
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:09,100
I guess as far as looking at

3449
01:59:09,100 --> 01:59:12,100
new information, one my wife

3450
01:59:13,100 --> 01:59:15,100
did refer to the fact didn't

3451
01:59:15,100 --> 01:59:17,100
know what the blasting sounded

3452
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:18,100
like.

3453
01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:19,100
I haven't been here the entire

3454
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:23,201
time we moved in and we are

3455
01:59:24,100 --> 01:59:25,100
moving from the west and big

3456
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:27,100
move and doing a lot of things

3457
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,100
and very involved situation.

3458
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:30,100
on the other hand, I was

3459
01:59:30,100 --> 01:59:32,100
surprised to just be sitting

3460
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:34,100
having cup of coffee watching

3461
01:59:34,100 --> 01:59:36,100
the birds by the lake and hear

3462
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:38,100
an explosion.

3463
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:42,100
for any of you that like to see

3464
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:45,100
what your ears hear or what you

3465
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:48,100
see or want to run down 159 and

3466
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:51,100
have a peanut butter and jelly

3467
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:53,100
sandwich at lunch, feel free to

3468
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:55,100
invite yourself or call me.

3469
01:59:55,100 --> 01:59:56,100
glad to show you and you can

3470
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:58,100
taste the grit in the sandwich

3471
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:01,601
and hear the blasting on the

3472
02:00:02,100 --> 02:00:03,100
porch.

3473
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:04,100
more then glad to share that

3474
02:00:04,100 --> 02:00:05,100
with you.

3475
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:08,100
I think that since 1988 they

3476
02:00:13,100 --> 02:00:14,100
made good use of the property

3477
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:15,100
that they have.

3478
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:17,100
I hate to see that this extends

3479
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:19,100
any further or that you deviate

3480
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:21,100
from the plan you had created

3481
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:23,100
back then showing that there

3482
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:25,100
was going to be support for the

3483
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:27,100
community commercially and

3484
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:30,100
possibly additional jobs right

3485
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:31,100
there.

3486
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:34,100
I don't see why it needs to be

3487
02:00:34,100 --> 02:00:35,100
changed to ag land.

3488
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:37,100
I think that is a bad vote on

3489
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:38,100
the planning commission part

3490
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:40,100
and encourage the entire

3491
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:41,100
commission or entire county

3492
02:00:41,100 --> 02:00:44,100
board not to vote that way.

3493
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:47,601
but, if you do want to

3494
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:49,100
experience for yourselves and

3495
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:52,601
see what it is really about,

3496
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:57,100
feel free to give me a call.

3497
02:00:57,100 --> 02:00:58,100
>> thanks doug.

3498
02:00:58,100 --> 02:01:01,100
marybeth mora followed by kim

3499
02:01:01,100 --> 02:01:03,100
erickson.

3500
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:08,100
>> yes, marybeth mora and I and

3501
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:11,100
my husband and two grand

3502
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:13,100
daughters live, 24600 west 154

3503
02:01:16,100 --> 02:01:17,100
street.

3504
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:19,100
we are the property, 611 feet

3505
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:22,601
from that place that is talked

3506
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:25,100
about.

3507
02:01:25,100 --> 02:01:27,100
so, there are many reasons why

3508
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:29,100
we must not allow for this

3509
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:32,100
quarry project to go forward.

3510
02:01:32,100 --> 02:01:35,100
I will start from miner to

3511
02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:38,601
major, so bear with me with

3512
02:01:39,100 --> 02:01:42,100
what may seem initially smaller

3513
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:45,100
reasons, but in order of

3514
02:01:46,100 --> 02:01:47,100
importance.

3515
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:49,100
blasting and machinery

3516
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:51,401
generates high noise levels

3517
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:56,100
causing stress and behavioral

3518
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:59,100
changes in wildlife and pets.

3519
02:02:00,100 --> 02:02:03,100
we live a distance already from

3520
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:05,100
blasting and we see that with

3521
02:02:05,100 --> 02:02:06,100
our dog.

3522
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:08,100
okay?

3523
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:10,401
the dust quarrying raises

3524
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:14,100
travels far, settling on plants

3525
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:17,100
and effecting their growth.

3526
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:20,100
that is a scientific fact.

3527
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:24,100
we lived in many places and we

3528
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:26,100
never had so much dust to deal

3529
02:02:26,100 --> 02:02:28,100
with in our homes as we have in

3530
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:30,100
this place, but we love it

3531
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:31,100
anyway.

3532
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:33,100
we deal with it, but bring it

3533
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:35,100
closer, it would be different.

3534
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:37,100
it would effect the plants.

3535
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:40,100
it would effect our vegetation

3536
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:42,401
and our gardens, our

3537
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:45,100
vegetables.

3538
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:48,100
the next thing is, the

3539
02:02:48,100 --> 02:02:50,100
foundations of our homes in the

3540
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:53,100
area will be compromised by the

3541
02:02:53,100 --> 02:02:55,100
underground movement from the

3542
02:02:55,100 --> 02:02:57,401
impact of the blasting's.

3543
02:02:58,100 --> 02:03:00,100
so, and then the value of our

3544
02:03:00,100 --> 02:03:02,100
property will go down

3545
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:04,100
considerably.

3546
02:03:04,100 --> 02:03:07,100
what we have spent years with

3547
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:08,100
sweat and tears developing for

3548
02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:11,100
our family and our posterity

3549
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:13,100
would have to be considered a

3550
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:14,100
loss.

3551
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:16,100
this is unacceptable.

3552
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:20,100
I know there have been some

3553
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:22,100
people that have lived in the

3554
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:25,100
area that say that they if this

3555
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:27,100
goes through they are moving.

3556
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:30,100
I don't like to think that

3557
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,401
everybody's property value will

3558
02:03:34,100 --> 02:03:36,100
be going down and that will

3559
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:38,100
change things a lot.

3560
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:41,601
but, most importantly, and I am

3561
02:03:43,100 --> 02:03:44,100
saying this from a perspective

3562
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:47,100
of a mother, grand mother, also

3563
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:50,100
a nurse, our health will be

3564
02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:52,401
effected in significant ways.

3565
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:56,100
the fine dust particles will

3566
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:00,100
most likely contain silica,

3567
02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:01,100
naturally found in certain

3568
02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:04,100
stone, rock, sand and clay.

3569
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:07,100
this silica can be easily

3570
02:04:07,100 --> 02:04:09,100
inhaled by those living close

3571
02:04:09,100 --> 02:04:10,100
to a quarry.

3572
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:11,100
once inside the lungs the dust

3573
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:13,100
particles are attacked by the

3574
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:15,401
immune system, which causes

3575
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:19,100
silicosis a disease that can

3576
02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:20,100
take years to develop.

3577
02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:22,100
it causes swelling and scarring

3578
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:24,100
in the lungs.

3579
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:29,100
the nhs website states that

3580
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:31,100
people with silicosis may

3581
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:33,100
become bed bound and rare

3582
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,100
instances even can be fatal.

3583
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:37,100
it can also lead to lung

3584
02:04:37,100 --> 02:04:39,100
diseases such as copd and lung

3585
02:04:39,100 --> 02:04:40,100
cancer.

3586
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:42,100
the dust exposure can cause eye

3587
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:44,100
problems too.

3588
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,100
hearing can be effected.

3589
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:48,100
the international journal of

3590
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:49,100
environmental research and

3591
02:04:49,100 --> 02:04:52,100
public health conducted a study

3592
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:54,100
comparing two groups, one far

3593
02:04:54,100 --> 02:04:56,100
from a quarry and the other

3594
02:04:56,100 --> 02:04:57,100
near the quarry.

3595
02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:59,100
those residing closer to the

3596
02:04:59,100 --> 02:05:02,100
quarry had a higher respiratory

3597
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:06,401
symptoms like nasal congestion,

3598
02:05:07,100 --> 02:05:09,100
cough, as mu and deteriorating

3599
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:11,100
lung function.

3600
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:13,100
those susceptible are young and

3601
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:14,100
elderly.

3602
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:17,100
my husband and I are getting up

3603
02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:18,100
there in years and we are

3604
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:20,100
raising our grand daughters on

3605
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:23,100
the very property like I said

3606
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:25,100
closest to the perspective

3607
02:05:25,100 --> 02:05:26,100
quarry.

3608
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:29,100
we live right across the

3609
02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:30,100
street.

3610
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:31,100
we need to stay healthy for our

3611
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:34,601
girls who lost both parents and

3612
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:38,100
depend on us.

3613
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:41,601
we are appealing to our city

3614
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:44,100
officials to put the health and

3615
02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:46,100
wellbeing of us, the residents

3616
02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:49,100
of the city above any other

3617
02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:51,100
endeavor.

3618
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:53,100
people's health must always

3619
02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:55,100
take priority over economic

3620
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:57,100
growth.

3621
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:01,100
(applause)

3622
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:03,100
>> thank you.

3623
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:06,100
carolyn erickson.

3624
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:12,100
>> my name is kim erickson.

3625
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:14,401
my address is 2604 west 150

3626
02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:19,100
street in the housing addition

3627
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:22,601
that you have seen called lake

3628
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:25,100
shore estates.

3629
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:28,100
I wonder, would it be

3630
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:31,100
inappropriate if showed a

3631
02:06:31,100 --> 02:06:34,601
photo of what the-what it looks

3632
02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:37,100
like in the field when you see

3633
02:06:37,100 --> 02:06:38,100
all the dust?

3634
02:06:38,100 --> 02:06:41,100
can I pass this around?

3635
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:44,100
>> legal?

3636
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:48,100
it is your 5 minutes.

3637
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:49,100
>> beg your pardon?

3638
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:51,401
>> it is your 5 minutes.

3639
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:53,100
>> 5 minutes, okay.

3640
02:06:53,100 --> 02:06:55,401
the background standing at

3641
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:58,100
highway 56 and 151 street.

3642
02:06:59,100 --> 02:07:02,601
that is the quarry and the

3643
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:05,100
dust.

3644
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:07,100
that comes right into our

3645
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:09,100
neighborhood.

3646
02:07:51,100 --> 02:07:53,100
I don't have anything that you

3647
02:07:53,100 --> 02:07:55,100
haven't heard already.

3648
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:58,601
I just we talk about not

3649
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:01,401
necessarily new things, but

3650
02:08:03,100 --> 02:08:04,100
what you haven't heard is the

3651
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:07,100
impact that comes with having

3652
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:10,601
to face this dust and noise

3653
02:08:13,100 --> 02:08:16,100
potentially any day of the

3654
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:18,100
week, and if you haven't

3655
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:20,401
experienced that you can't

3656
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:24,100
really respond I don't think

3657
02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:27,401
well to this situation.

3658
02:08:33,100 --> 02:08:36,100
we are trying to do our best to

3659
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:40,100
do what we think we can do.

3660
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,100
I hope that the stipulations

3661
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:45,601
that you have put down or

3662
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:48,100
suggested somehow can be

3663
02:08:48,100 --> 02:08:50,401
enforced, because they haven't

3664
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:53,100
been in the past.

3665
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:54,100
thank you.

3666
02:08:54,100 --> 02:08:55,100
>> thank you kim.

3667
02:08:55,100 --> 02:08:57,100
carolyn erickson followed by

3668
02:08:57,100 --> 02:08:59,100
terry austinfeld.

3669
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:07,100
>> I'm carolyn erickson, 2604

3670
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:12,100
west 150 street.

3671
02:09:12,100 --> 02:09:14,100
that was my husband that just

3672
02:09:14,100 --> 02:09:15,100
spoke.

3673
02:09:15,100 --> 02:09:16,100
my father built his house in

3674
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:18,401
lake stone estates in 1980.

3675
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:22,601
he moved there built his house

3676
02:09:23,100 --> 02:09:24,100
there because he thought was a

3677
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,100
beautiful, quite, peaceful,

3678
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:30,401
lovely neighborhood, and he

3679
02:09:32,100 --> 02:09:33,100
lived in the city a long time

3680
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:36,100
and was ready to get out

3681
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:38,401
someplace nice like that.

3682
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:41,100
it was quite for a long time

3683
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:43,100
till the quarry came and when

3684
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:46,100
it came, we like everyone said,

3685
02:09:46,100 --> 02:09:49,100
the dust and the blasting was

3686
02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:50,100
amazing.

3687
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:53,100
we would come up periodically,

3688
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:55,401
we lived in oklahoma.

3689
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:58,100
yes the wind blows there too,

3690
02:09:58,100 --> 02:10:00,100
but I had never seen such a

3691
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:04,100
mess as my mother was a white

3692
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:06,100
glove artist, no dust in the

3693
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:07,100
house.

3694
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:08,100
there certainly was dust all

3695
02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:10,100
the time that she had to take

3696
02:10:10,100 --> 02:10:12,100
care of.

3697
02:10:16,100 --> 02:10:18,100
it was bad--when you hear the

3698
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:20,100
blasting, you could hear the

3699
02:10:20,100 --> 02:10:23,100
china the glasses in the china

3700
02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:25,100
closet rattle.

3701
02:10:25,100 --> 02:10:28,601
that is blasting noise and we

3702
02:10:30,100 --> 02:10:32,100
right as you turn off lake

3703
02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:35,601
stone drive, we are the third

3704
02:10:36,100 --> 02:10:38,100
house in.

3705
02:10:38,100 --> 02:10:40,100
and if it rattles our stuff

3706
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:42,100
like that, I can't imagine what

3707
02:10:42,100 --> 02:10:46,100
it does to their house there on

3708
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:47,100
the corner.

3709
02:10:47,100 --> 02:10:49,100
we are right behind them just

3710
02:10:49,100 --> 02:10:51,401
behind them a ways.

3711
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:54,100
it is not right t. Isn't right.

3712
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:57,100
we moved up here three years

3713
02:10:57,100 --> 02:10:59,100
ago following my father's

3714
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,100
death.

3715
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:01,100
we moved up here three years

3716
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:03,100
ago permanently.

3717
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:07,100
I never had such allergies and

3718
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:10,100
my eyes watering and all that

3719
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,100
thing since we moved here.

3720
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:12,100
coughing.

3721
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:13,100
all that kind of stuff.

3722
02:11:13,100 --> 02:11:14,100
I go to the doctors and say

3723
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:15,100
what is wrong up here.

3724
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,100
I think what is wrong up here

3725
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:20,601
is the atmosphere we are living

3726
02:11:22,100 --> 02:11:23,100
in.

3727
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,100
it isn't right.

3728
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:25,100
it is just not right.

3729
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:26,100
it isn't right what we breathe,

3730
02:11:26,100 --> 02:11:28,100
it isn't right what we have to

3731
02:11:28,100 --> 02:11:29,100
live with, what we have to deal

3732
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:31,401
with every single day.

3733
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:35,100
you get your car washed, if you

3734
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:36,100
dont put your garage door down

3735
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:39,100
immediately, your car is dirty

3736
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:40,100
immediately.

3737
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:42,100
it is just dirty from all the

3738
02:11:42,100 --> 02:11:45,100
dust that comes into the

3739
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:48,100
garage.

3740
02:11:48,100 --> 02:11:49,100
it is just not right and if it

3741
02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:52,100
is going to be more so and it

3742
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:54,100
will be and I can't imagine it

3743
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:57,100
being that close to old 56

3744
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:59,100
going all the way around that

3745
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:01,100
we will not have major major

3746
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:04,100
problem and the people on the

3747
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:07,601
other side oak run, are not

3748
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:10,100
going to have the significant

3749
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:11,100
amount of problems too.

3750
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:14,100
we all need to stay healthy and

3751
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:16,100
right now, that's not

3752
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:17,100
happening.

3753
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:18,100
what we have to breathe and

3754
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:19,100
having to deal with.

3755
02:12:19,100 --> 02:12:21,100
thank you.

3756
02:12:21,100 --> 02:12:22,100
>> thank you carolyn.

3757
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,401
terry austinfeld followed by

3758
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:28,100
chuck brandonhof.

3759
02:12:29,100 --> 02:12:31,100
brandonburke.

3760
02:12:31,100 --> 02:12:33,100
my apologies.

3761
02:12:33,100 --> 02:12:35,100
terry.

3762
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:36,100
>> thank you commissioners.

3763
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:38,100
I'm terry.

3764
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:41,100
my address is 1614 south like

3765
02:12:41,100 --> 02:12:42,100
stone drive.

3766
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:44,100
many neighbors have already

3767
02:12:44,100 --> 02:12:45,100
commented on things I was going

3768
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:47,100
to address, but I would second

3769
02:12:47,100 --> 02:12:48,100
the motion that you can come

3770
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:50,100
and sit in my house any time as

3771
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:51,100
well.

3772
02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:52,100
the blasting literally feels

3773
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:54,100
like you are in a earthquake.

3774
02:12:54,100 --> 02:12:56,100
it hits your house.

3775
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:58,100
your entire house shakes, so if

3776
02:12:58,100 --> 02:12:59,100
you just want to know, please

3777
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:02,100
you are invited to my house as

3778
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:03,100
well.

3779
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:04,100
again, I really don't want to

3780
02:13:04,100 --> 02:13:06,100
repeat what others said, but

3781
02:13:06,100 --> 02:13:08,100
hopefully can expound on the

3782
02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:10,100
issues we are facing.

3783
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:11,100
here is what I want the

3784
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:13,401
commission to understand, what

3785
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:17,100
I have heard attorney peterson

3786
02:13:17,100 --> 02:13:20,100
say here today is that, the

3787
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:22,100
vibrations are going to stay in

3788
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:25,601
the same range even with the

3789
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:27,100
quarry moving closely.

3790
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:30,100
that gives zero comfort because

3791
02:13:30,100 --> 02:13:32,100
the vibrations we already

3792
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:34,100
experience are unacceptable.

3793
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:36,100
our foundations have cracked.

3794
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:38,100
you can say well, everybody's

3795
02:13:38,100 --> 02:13:40,100
foundation cracks.

3796
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:41,100
settling.

3797
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:43,100
it is not.

3798
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:47,100
I can show you a photograph.

3799
02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:49,100
I have landscape rocks in my

3800
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:51,100
yard that were limestone rocks

3801
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:53,100
when my house was built in

3802
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:54,100
1982.

3803
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:55,100
they are cracked all the way

3804
02:13:55,100 --> 02:13:56,100
down it middle.

3805
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:57,100
this isn't settling.

3806
02:13:57,100 --> 02:13:59,401
these are 12 feet across.

3807
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:01,100
this is what the vibration from

3808
02:14:01,100 --> 02:14:02,100
there quarry has done.

3809
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:05,100
these rocks blasted the ice

3810
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:07,100
age, but yet the quarry

3811
02:14:07,100 --> 02:14:10,100
vibration has taken them down.

3812
02:14:19,100 --> 02:14:21,100
even the other thing I like to

3813
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:22,100
address that I have not heard

3814
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:23,100
addressed by the neighbors is

3815
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:26,100
that, the issue of the

3816
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:27,100
underground blasting.

3817
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:29,100
we have been told that don't

3818
02:14:29,100 --> 02:14:31,100
worry, we'll move the blasting

3819
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:33,100
underground.

3820
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:36,601
this not the panacea the quarry

3821
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:38,100
wants you to think.

3822
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:39,100
I invite you to do a quick

3823
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:42,100
google search of what happens

3824
02:14:42,100 --> 02:14:43,100
when you blast underground

3825
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:45,100
versus surface blasting.

3826
02:14:47,100 --> 02:14:50,601
it will tell you that, moving

3827
02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:53,401
underground while it eliminates

3828
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:56,100
the issue of fly rock, the

3829
02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:58,100
ground vibrations that are

3830
02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:00,100
experienced at surface can be

3831
02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:02,100
more intense when you move

3832
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:04,100
underground.

3833
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:05,100
this stands to reason because

3834
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:07,100
open air blasting, which they

3835
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:08,100
are doing now some of the

3836
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:10,100
energy caused by the blasting

3837
02:15:10,100 --> 02:15:12,100
vents to the open air, but when

3838
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:13,100
you move undergrounds, all the

3839
02:15:13,100 --> 02:15:15,100
explosive energy is trapped in

3840
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:17,100
the rock and directly converted

3841
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:19,100
into ground vibration so you

3842
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:20,100
see the damage it already

3843
02:15:20,100 --> 02:15:22,401
caused, keeping the vibration

3844
02:15:23,100 --> 02:15:25,100
at the same level isn't going

3845
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:28,100
to help us at all.

3846
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:33,100
secondly, what I think is most

3847
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:36,100
important is issue of dust.

3848
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:38,100
to someone not experienced what

3849
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:40,100
we are experiencing, dust.

3850
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:42,100
so what, big deal.

3851
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:44,100
your car gets dirty.

3852
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:45,100
that's not the problem.

3853
02:15:45,100 --> 02:15:47,100
what the problem is, is what is

3854
02:15:47,100 --> 02:15:49,401
contained in the dust.

3855
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:52,100
as a neighbor mentioned, we are

3856
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:54,401
looking at hazardous silica

3857
02:15:57,100 --> 02:15:58,100
dust.

3858
02:15:58,100 --> 02:16:00,100
this is classified as known

3859
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:02,100
human carcinogen.

3860
02:16:02,100 --> 02:16:04,401
breathing it in causes

3861
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,100
incurable lung damage.

3862
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:12,100
call me slow, I'm just putting

3863
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:13,100
all this together because I

3864
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
just lived in my house two

3865
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:16,100
years, but the gentlemen the

3866
02:16:16,100 --> 02:16:18,100
widow I bought my house from

3867
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:21,100
did die of lung cancer.

3868
02:16:22,100 --> 02:16:24,100
I have screen porch.

3869
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:26,401
it is basically inuseable

3870
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:31,100
because now matter how much you

3871
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:33,100
clean it everything is covered

3872
02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:34,100
in dust.

3873
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:36,100
this is incredibly unhealthy

3874
02:16:36,100 --> 02:16:38,100
things we are breathing.

3875
02:16:38,100 --> 02:16:40,100
come to my house, breathe this.

3876
02:16:40,100 --> 02:16:43,100
we can't open our windows.

3877
02:16:43,100 --> 02:16:45,100
it makes your throat dry.

3878
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:48,100
it makes your chest hurt and

3879
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:49,100
this is what we are living

3880
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:50,100
with.

3881
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:52,100
so, for the quarry owners to

3882
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:55,601
tell us, don't worry, we are

3883
02:16:56,100 --> 02:16:57,100
going to stipulate and make

3884
02:16:57,100 --> 02:16:59,100
sure that moving this quarry

3885
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:01,100
isn't any worse then you have

3886
02:17:01,100 --> 02:17:02,100
now.

3887
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:04,100
well, that's not really good

3888
02:17:04,100 --> 02:17:05,100
enough.

3889
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:08,100
the stipulations you are making

3890
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:12,100
were made in 1988 and they

3891
02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:13,100
didn't solve the problem.

3892
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:14,100
that is just it, keeping under

3893
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:16,100
the whatever the standards are

3894
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:18,100
hasn't solved the problem

3895
02:17:18,100 --> 02:17:19,100
before.

3896
02:17:19,100 --> 02:17:21,100
why should we accept or believe

3897
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:23,100
they will solve the problem in

3898
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:25,100
the future?

3899
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:27,100
I would ask that you deny the

3900
02:17:27,100 --> 02:17:29,401
application, because it isn't

3901
02:17:31,100 --> 02:17:33,100
just inconveniencing the people

3902
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:34,100
in the neighborhood, it is

3903
02:17:34,100 --> 02:17:36,100
poisoning us.

3904
02:17:37,100 --> 02:17:38,100
thank you for your

3905
02:17:38,100 --> 02:17:40,100
consideration.

3906
02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:42,100
>> thank you terry.

3907
02:17:43,100 --> 02:17:46,100
chuck and greg reno next.

3908
02:17:48,100 --> 02:17:50,401
>> been sitting too long.

3909
02:17:51,100 --> 02:17:52,100
good evening everyone.

3910
02:17:52,100 --> 02:17:54,100
my name is chuck brandonberg.

3911
02:17:54,100 --> 02:17:56,100
my wife and I bought a house

3912
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:58,401
two years ago, 25344 west 144

3913
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:03,100
street.

3914
02:18:04,100 --> 02:18:06,100
it is high lands on the green.

3915
02:18:06,100 --> 02:18:08,100
the other day we were outside

3916
02:18:08,100 --> 02:18:10,100
and my neighbor goes, what was

3917
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:11,100
that?

3918
02:18:11,100 --> 02:18:14,100
it was a huge explosion and we

3919
02:18:14,100 --> 02:18:17,100
are new to what is going on

3920
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:20,601
with this process and so I

3921
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:25,100
heard about the dynamiting and

3922
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:26,100
that is what it was because

3923
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:29,100
there was no air plane crash,

3924
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:32,100
but anyway, we do have a dust

3925
02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:34,401
issue where we live.

3926
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:36,100
leave the car out, it gets

3927
02:18:36,100 --> 02:18:38,401
dusty as carolyn was

3928
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:42,100
explaining.

3929
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:45,100
most of my career I worked as a

3930
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:49,201
cfo for a green company and epa

3931
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:53,100
was on us all the time about

3932
02:18:53,100 --> 02:18:55,100
our dust system, because the

3933
02:18:55,100 --> 02:18:58,601
people in the town, they washed

3934
02:19:00,100 --> 02:19:02,100
clothes and the dust gets on

3935
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:06,100
the clothes and so, we had to

3936
02:19:06,100 --> 02:19:09,100
take precaution about dust, and

3937
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:11,100
in a grain elevator, it is

3938
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:12,100
edible.

3939
02:19:12,100 --> 02:19:15,100
it comes from edible product

3940
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:19,100
like corn, beans, wheat, so

3941
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:22,100
when we moved here, I couldn't

3942
02:19:22,100 --> 02:19:25,100
believe the dust going on at

3943
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:28,100
the quarry, but I think--I

3944
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:33,100
don't envy your job.

3945
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:37,801
it is tough, I know, but I like

3946
02:19:43,100 --> 02:19:44,100
to leave you with this thought,

3947
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:46,100
would you move in that

3948
02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:47,100
neighborhood and pick up your

3949
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:50,100
family and move in that

3950
02:19:50,100 --> 02:19:51,100
neighborhood?

3951
02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:52,100
that is all I have.

3952
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:53,100
thank you.

3953
02:19:53,100 --> 02:19:54,100
>> thank you chuck.

3954
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:56,100
greg reno followed by katie

3955
02:19:56,100 --> 02:19:58,100
slater.

3956
02:20:03,100 --> 02:20:05,100
>> my name is greg reno.

3957
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:07,401
1514 south lake stone drive.

3958
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:10,100
my wife and I moved here 9

3959
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:12,401
years ago from iowa.

3960
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:17,100
I commuted back and forth and

3961
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:20,100
worked through the week day.

3962
02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:22,100
the first month we were down my

3963
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:24,100
wife heard a explosion and

3964
02:20:24,100 --> 02:20:26,100
didn't know what had happened.

3965
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:29,100
if it was a earthquake, if a

3966
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:32,100
plane crashed, she ran outside,

3967
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:34,100
didn't know what to do.

3968
02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:37,100
but, learned later it was from

3969
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:38,100
the mines.

3970
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:39,100
I say thank you, it isn't as

3971
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:42,100
bad as it used to be, but we

3972
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:45,601
have we remodeled our home two

3973
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:47,100
years ago and have cracks

3974
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:50,100
already in our new sheet rock.

3975
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:51,100
each time there is a blast, we

3976
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:53,100
have the knock down from the

3977
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:55,100
ceiling comes down.

3978
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:57,100
we know when there is was a

3979
02:20:57,100 --> 02:20:59,100
blast because we come home and

3980
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:01,100
there are white flecks all over

3981
02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:02,100
the floor.

3982
02:21:02,100 --> 02:21:04,401
that is very annoying.

3983
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:08,100
another thing, about the birm,

3984
02:21:10,100 --> 02:21:12,100
if you look at-I wish the map

3985
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:14,100
was up, but there used to be

3986
02:21:14,100 --> 02:21:16,100
offices there is now a rock

3987
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:17,100
birm there.

3988
02:21:17,100 --> 02:21:19,100
as I said, we moved from iowa

3989
02:21:19,100 --> 02:21:21,100
so we had a lot of friends come

3990
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:24,100
see us, and we came driving

3991
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:25,100
from east to west and our

3992
02:21:25,100 --> 02:21:28,100
friends said, what is that,

3993
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:32,100
their words, ugly pile of rock

3994
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:33,100
up there.

3995
02:21:33,100 --> 02:21:35,100
said, that is the quarry.

3996
02:21:35,100 --> 02:21:36,100
that is the birm so you dont

3997
02:21:36,100 --> 02:21:39,100
see what is going on.

3998
02:21:39,100 --> 02:21:42,100
it is a ugly birm.

3999
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:45,100
I agree with what the last

4000
02:21:45,100 --> 02:21:48,100
speaker said, I dont want to be

4001
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:49,100
in your shoes to make the

4002
02:21:49,100 --> 02:21:50,100
decision.

4003
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:52,100
you have a tough decision.

4004
02:21:52,100 --> 02:21:53,100
at the same time, I feel sorry

4005
02:21:53,100 --> 02:21:56,100
for you as quarry people.

4006
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:58,100
I am a small business owner

4007
02:21:58,100 --> 02:21:59,100
also.

4008
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:01,100
I have been all my life.

4009
02:22:01,100 --> 02:22:04,100
we are in a changing world.

4010
02:22:04,100 --> 02:22:06,401
the world that-I farm.

4011
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:10,100
the regulations we are

4012
02:22:10,100 --> 02:22:12,401
regulating ourselves to death.

4013
02:22:15,100 --> 02:22:16,100
I wish that happened to them as

4014
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:18,100
last speaker said about the

4015
02:22:18,100 --> 02:22:19,100
dust.

4016
02:22:19,100 --> 02:22:22,601
ag with dust and corn and

4017
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:26,601
soybeans, I am sell grain the

4018
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:30,100
elevators are shut down just to

4019
02:22:30,100 --> 02:22:32,100
get rid of dust.

4020
02:22:32,100 --> 02:22:34,100
think about that.

4021
02:22:42,100 --> 02:22:44,100
as I said, we had doors on the

4022
02:22:44,100 --> 02:22:46,100
house that we can't close

4023
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:48,100
because of the foundation has

4024
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:50,100
shifted.

4025
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:56,100
as I said, I feel sorry for

4026
02:22:56,100 --> 02:22:57,100
you.

4027
02:22:57,100 --> 02:22:59,100
you guys have a tough decision.

4028
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:02,100
we are in a changing world.

4029
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:04,100
the world around your quarry

4030
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:06,100
has moved in.

4031
02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:10,100
one of us is going to move out.

4032
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:11,100
all seriousness.

4033
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:15,100
it is up to you guys to decide.

4034
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:16,100
there is a lot of beautiful

4035
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:19,100
homes up all around there.

4036
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:21,100
this could be developed.

4037
02:23:21,100 --> 02:23:22,100
just because there is a quarry

4038
02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:25,601
there now, doesn't mean it has

4039
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:28,100
to stay there.

4040
02:23:28,100 --> 02:23:29,100
just because there is a homes

4041
02:23:29,100 --> 02:23:31,100
there now, doesn't mean those

4042
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:33,100
people have to stay there

4043
02:23:33,100 --> 02:23:35,100
either.

4044
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:40,100
I'll close with this, as I

4045
02:23:40,100 --> 02:23:42,100
said, we came from iowa.

4046
02:23:42,100 --> 02:23:44,100
I farm in iowa and if you

4047
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:45,100
remember hearing about the

4048
02:23:45,100 --> 02:23:47,100
dakota access pipeline that

4049
02:23:47,100 --> 02:23:50,100
came through iowa, from south

4050
02:23:50,100 --> 02:23:52,100
dakota, that went right through

4051
02:23:52,100 --> 02:23:54,100
our farm.

4052
02:23:54,100 --> 02:23:56,401
they promised us everything.

4053
02:23:57,100 --> 02:23:58,100
we are going to dig this in, we

4054
02:23:58,100 --> 02:24:00,100
are going to put the pipe in

4055
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:02,100
and when we leave you won't

4056
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:04,401
notice we were there.

4057
02:24:07,100 --> 02:24:09,100
my wife doesn't like this, but

4058
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:12,100
this is my word, they raped our

4059
02:24:12,100 --> 02:24:14,100
soil.

4060
02:24:15,100 --> 02:24:17,100
300 feet wide this has been

4061
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:19,100
over 10 years ago, you can

4062
02:24:19,100 --> 02:24:22,100
still see where they went

4063
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:24,100
through.

4064
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:25,100
the quarry can make great

4065
02:24:25,100 --> 02:24:27,100
promises, have great

4066
02:24:30,100 --> 02:24:31,100
intentions, but if nothing is

4067
02:24:31,100 --> 02:24:34,100
followed through on, and if you

4068
02:24:34,100 --> 02:24:37,100
don't answer to the public, it

4069
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:39,100
is wasted words.

4070
02:24:40,100 --> 02:24:43,100
I pray you guys make the right

4071
02:24:43,100 --> 02:24:44,100
decision for all of us.

4072
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:46,100
thank you.

4073
02:24:49,100 --> 02:24:50,100
>> katie slater followed by

4074
02:24:50,100 --> 02:24:52,100
lori quackenbush.

4075
02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:54,100
>> hi.

4076
02:24:54,100 --> 02:24:55,100
cathy slater.

4077
02:24:55,100 --> 02:24:59,201
I lived in lake side since late

4078
02:25:01,100 --> 02:25:03,100
1979 so a lot long time t. Is a

4079
02:25:03,100 --> 02:25:05,100
beautiful area and we love

4080
02:25:05,100 --> 02:25:06,100
living there.

4081
02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:09,100
we have dealt with the quarry

4082
02:25:09,100 --> 02:25:10,100
all most 40 years now with the

4083
02:25:10,100 --> 02:25:11,100
dust and blasting just like

4084
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:13,100
everybody else said, we have

4085
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:15,100
cracks in the sheet rock as

4086
02:25:15,100 --> 02:25:17,100
well as one in the foundation

4087
02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:18,100
too.

4088
02:25:18,100 --> 02:25:19,100
there is nothing about the

4089
02:25:19,100 --> 02:25:21,100
quarry that will benefit any of

4090
02:25:21,100 --> 02:25:23,100
our neighbors.

4091
02:25:23,100 --> 02:25:25,100
none in our neighborhood, like

4092
02:25:25,100 --> 02:25:28,601
stone, or oak run or prairie

4093
02:25:29,100 --> 02:25:30,100
highlands.

4094
02:25:30,100 --> 02:25:33,100
the dust and sound and

4095
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:34,100
vibration travel a long way.

4096
02:25:34,100 --> 02:25:36,100
I appreciate what they said.

4097
02:25:36,100 --> 02:25:37,100
the quarry people.

4098
02:25:37,100 --> 02:25:39,100
but honesty, we lived with them

4099
02:25:39,100 --> 02:25:40,100
all these years and nothing has

4100
02:25:40,100 --> 02:25:42,100
been done to mitigate the

4101
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:44,100
problem.

4102
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:45,100
not the noise, not the dust or

4103
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:47,100
anything, so it is hard for us

4104
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:49,100
to really believe what they

4105
02:25:49,100 --> 02:25:50,100
say.

4106
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:51,100
even though I'm sure they are

4107
02:25:51,100 --> 02:25:53,100
going to try

4108
02:25:53,100 --> 02:25:54,100
>> student do it, but we had

4109
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:55,100
experience with them not

4110
02:25:55,100 --> 02:25:57,100
following through.

4111
02:25:57,100 --> 02:25:59,100
I know it is hard for you to

4112
02:25:59,100 --> 02:26:00,100
understand if you don't live in

4113
02:26:00,100 --> 02:26:02,100
any of these areas or anything

4114
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:04,100
close to that, but I hope that

4115
02:26:04,100 --> 02:26:07,100
you will consider our quality

4116
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:08,100
of life and also our property

4117
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:11,100
values as you make the decision

4118
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:12,100
and we appreciate you

4119
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:13,100
listening.

4120
02:26:13,100 --> 02:26:14,100
thanks.

4121
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:16,100
>> thank you, cathy.

4122
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:19,100
lori followed by don thomas.

4123
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:21,100
>> yes, lori.

4124
02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:27,100
pretty-sorry, I should wave my

4125
02:26:27,100 --> 02:26:29,100
right, but I really do want to

4126
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:31,100
invite you all to go on a field

4127
02:26:31,100 --> 02:26:33,401
trip and seriously, please

4128
02:26:34,100 --> 02:26:35,100
drive out there, see what we

4129
02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:37,100
are seeing and living with

4130
02:26:37,100 --> 02:26:40,100
every day, because have any of

4131
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:42,100
you been out there?

4132
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:43,100
okay.

4133
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:44,100
just a couple of you.

4134
02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:46,100
but you really all need to go

4135
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:48,100
and maybe you'll see from our

4136
02:26:48,100 --> 02:26:50,100
point of view, because it is

4137
02:26:50,100 --> 02:26:51,100
awful.

4138
02:26:51,100 --> 02:26:52,100
we love living there.

4139
02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:54,100
we lived there since 1980 and

4140
02:26:54,100 --> 02:26:56,100
we have no plans on going

4141
02:26:56,100 --> 02:26:58,100
anywhere, we plan to die there,

4142
02:26:58,100 --> 02:27:00,100
which is kind of scary now that

4143
02:27:00,100 --> 02:27:02,401
I think about it.

4144
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:04,100
I want to live long and don't

4145
02:27:04,100 --> 02:27:06,100
want to have all this dust and

4146
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:09,100
crap we see and intake

4147
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:11,100
shortening my life.

4148
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:14,601
I don't have that many years

4149
02:27:15,100 --> 02:27:16,100
left, so please consider all

4150
02:27:16,100 --> 02:27:17,100
the homes, all the people

4151
02:27:17,100 --> 02:27:18,100
around.

4152
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:20,100
thank you.

4153
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:21,100
>> thank you lori.

4154
02:27:21,100 --> 02:27:23,100
don thomas.

4155
02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:27,100
cynthia peterson.

4156
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:30,100
followed by steve--

4157
02:27:36,100 --> 02:27:37,100
>> hi.

4158
02:27:37,100 --> 02:27:38,100
thank you for the opportunity.

4159
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:40,100
I'm cindy peterson.

4160
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:47,100
our house was built in 78, so

4161
02:27:47,100 --> 02:27:49,100
one of the earlier houses.

4162
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:51,401
we lived there since 2004.

4163
02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:56,100
my parents we built an addition

4164
02:27:56,100 --> 02:27:58,100
on my dad was a architect and

4165
02:27:58,100 --> 02:27:59,100
would have loved this fight

4166
02:27:59,100 --> 02:28:02,100
with--he was a architect and

4167
02:28:02,100 --> 02:28:04,100
liked to engage and practice

4168
02:28:04,100 --> 02:28:07,601
law without a license, but if

4169
02:28:09,100 --> 02:28:10,100
you know him you know that is

4170
02:28:10,100 --> 02:28:11,100
true.

4171
02:28:11,100 --> 02:28:12,100
he probably appeared before you

4172
02:28:12,100 --> 02:28:15,601
guys at some point years ago.

4173
02:28:16,100 --> 02:28:18,100
and so, we knew the people who

4174
02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:21,100
we bought the house from warned

4175
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:22,100
us about the quarry.

4176
02:28:22,100 --> 02:28:24,100
we thought, how bad can that

4177
02:28:24,100 --> 02:28:25,100
be?

4178
02:28:25,100 --> 02:28:26,100
we love the property and bought

4179
02:28:26,100 --> 02:28:27,100
the house and my dad designed

4180
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:30,100
an addition for my parents to

4181
02:28:30,100 --> 02:28:34,801
live in by us and, but soon as

4182
02:28:35,100 --> 02:28:38,100
we moved in, we realized what

4183
02:28:38,100 --> 02:28:41,100
the problems were and I

4184
02:28:42,100 --> 02:28:43,100
don't--it is all the same

4185
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:44,100
thing.

4186
02:28:44,100 --> 02:28:47,100
the blasting and the dust.

4187
02:28:48,100 --> 02:28:51,601
this afternoon my house is shut

4188
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:55,100
up and air conditioning on and

4189
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:56,100
I clean off the counter and I

4190
02:28:56,100 --> 02:28:58,100
come back two hours later and

4191
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:01,100
there is a little grit on the

4192
02:29:01,100 --> 02:29:02,100
counter.

4193
02:29:02,100 --> 02:29:04,100
that is not with the windows

4194
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:05,100
open.

4195
02:29:05,100 --> 02:29:07,100
the windows are open, how many

4196
02:29:07,100 --> 02:29:08,100
days do we have winds from the

4197
02:29:08,100 --> 02:29:10,100
south?

4198
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:13,100
pretty good winds from the

4199
02:29:13,100 --> 02:29:14,100
south.

4200
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:17,100
that's coming straight over the

4201
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:19,100
quarry and straight into our

4202
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:20,100
neighborhood.

4203
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:21,100
so, they say, well we'll test

4204
02:29:21,100 --> 02:29:23,100
the winds and if it is too

4205
02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:24,100
windy we won't blast.

4206
02:29:24,100 --> 02:29:27,100
what do they mean by too windy

4207
02:29:27,100 --> 02:29:29,100
because it doesn't matter even

4208
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:32,100
if it is a slight breeze, dust

4209
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:34,100
everywhere.

4210
02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:37,100
now my grandson and his family

4211
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:39,100
have moved in where my parents

4212
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:40,100
lived.

4213
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:42,100
they both passed and they have

4214
02:29:42,100 --> 02:29:45,601
a 22 month old and a 5 month

4215
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:49,100
old, so we have our great grand

4216
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:50,100
children there.

4217
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:53,100
the 22 month old is developed a

4218
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:56,100
cough that isn't related to

4219
02:29:56,100 --> 02:29:58,401
respiratory illness, so I'm

4220
02:30:02,100 --> 02:30:03,100
hoping it isn't related to the

4221
02:30:03,100 --> 02:30:05,100
dust, but I would say, we are

4222
02:30:05,100 --> 02:30:06,100
not planning on moving because

4223
02:30:06,100 --> 02:30:08,100
that, but it really does make

4224
02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:11,100
me think about their health

4225
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:14,100
growing up, and we want to

4226
02:30:14,100 --> 02:30:15,100
protect them as much as

4227
02:30:15,100 --> 02:30:17,100
possible.

4228
02:30:17,100 --> 02:30:20,100
I figured that my opinion about

4229
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:22,100
what will happen is it is done

4230
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:25,601
deal, but I wanted to express

4231
02:30:26,100 --> 02:30:27,100
so you know people in the

4232
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:29,401
neighborhoods that live around

4233
02:30:31,100 --> 02:30:32,100
there hopefully you will think

4234
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:33,100
about your decision.

4235
02:30:33,100 --> 02:30:35,100
thank you.

4236
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:37,100
>> thank you cynthia.

4237
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:39,100
that is our final scheduled

4238
02:30:39,100 --> 02:30:41,100
speaker tonight.

4239
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:43,100
do I have a motion to close the

4240
02:30:43,100 --> 02:30:45,100
public hearing?

4241
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:47,100
>> I move we close the public

4242
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:48,100
hearing.

4243
02:30:48,100 --> 02:30:49,100
>> thank you commissioner

4244
02:30:49,100 --> 02:30:50,100
brown.

4245
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:51,100
second?

4246
02:30:51,100 --> 02:30:52,100
>> second.

4247
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:53,100
>> thank you commissioner

4248
02:30:53,100 --> 02:30:54,100
terrones.

4249
02:30:54,100 --> 02:30:55,100
all in favor say aye.

4250
02:30:55,100 --> 02:30:56,100
opposed, nay.

4251
02:30:56,100 --> 02:30:57,100
the public hearing is now

4252
02:30:57,100 --> 02:30:58,100
closed.

4253
02:30:58,100 --> 02:31:00,100
commissioners, move to

4254
02:31:00,100 --> 02:31:01,100
additional discussion on this

4255
02:31:01,100 --> 02:31:03,100
item.

4256
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:05,100
>> chair.

4257
02:31:05,100 --> 02:31:07,100
>> go ahead commissioner

4258
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:09,100
terrones.

4259
02:31:10,100 --> 02:31:12,100
>> I live in west olathe, I

4260
02:31:12,100 --> 02:31:15,601
think couple years ago I wasn't

4261
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:19,100
on the planning commission then

4262
02:31:19,100 --> 02:31:20,100
by the way, maybe three years

4263
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:23,601
ago then, but gentlemen came to

4264
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:27,100
our house all the neighborhood

4265
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:30,601
and dropped off fliers and it

4266
02:31:31,100 --> 02:31:34,100
was a educational flier about

4267
02:31:34,100 --> 02:31:36,100
what was about to happen and

4268
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:38,100
would be experiencing these

4269
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:40,100
blasts, so I have experienced

4270
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:44,201
the blasts and it is, you know,

4271
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:48,100
and to be honest, it didn't

4272
02:31:48,100 --> 02:31:50,100
last long, but I do remember

4273
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:54,100
the concern that I had as I am

4274
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:56,100
pretty picky and there was

4275
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:59,100
enough vibration in our home

4276
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:02,100
and I was definitely concerned

4277
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:04,100
about foundation issues and

4278
02:32:04,100 --> 02:32:05,100
cracks.

4279
02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:07,100
none that materialized, but

4280
02:32:07,100 --> 02:32:10,100
again, it was short-lived, but

4281
02:32:10,100 --> 02:32:13,100
I do remember hearing it a boom

4282
02:32:13,100 --> 02:32:16,100
sonic boom type and the whole

4283
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:18,100
house we have a large house,

4284
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:21,601
the whole house shook, and but

4285
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:26,100
luckily we didn't see any-I did

4286
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:29,100
go around looking for cracks in

4287
02:32:29,100 --> 02:32:31,100
the foundation, inside, outside

4288
02:32:31,100 --> 02:32:32,100
and nothing materialized that

4289
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:34,100
I'm aware of.

4290
02:32:34,100 --> 02:32:35,100
from what I can see.

4291
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:37,401
I sympathize with these

4292
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:39,100
comments.

4293
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:42,100
they are very moving and

4294
02:32:43,100 --> 02:32:44,100
heartfelt.

4295
02:32:44,100 --> 02:32:46,100
please know that whatever the

4296
02:32:46,100 --> 02:32:48,100
outcome is, it is just a

4297
02:32:48,100 --> 02:32:49,100
recommendation.

4298
02:32:49,100 --> 02:32:52,100
my colleagues have asked a lot

4299
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:55,601
of good questions, and we are

4300
02:32:57,100 --> 02:32:58,100
not elected officials.

4301
02:32:58,100 --> 02:33:02,100
we listen and by the way, thank

4302
02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:03,100
you for your comments.

4303
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:06,601
you are very well received, and

4304
02:33:08,100 --> 02:33:09,100
but it is just a

4305
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:10,100
recommendation.

4306
02:33:10,100 --> 02:33:12,100
it is up to your city council

4307
02:33:12,100 --> 02:33:14,100
that they can add different

4308
02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:17,100
factors to what is in front of

4309
02:33:17,100 --> 02:33:18,100
them.

4310
02:33:18,100 --> 02:33:19,100
they could do a number of

4311
02:33:19,100 --> 02:33:23,100
things, so I want to thank you

4312
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:24,100
and also want to take a minute

4313
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:26,401
to thank the staff.

4314
02:33:27,100 --> 02:33:31,201
it was a lengthy report and you

4315
02:33:32,100 --> 02:33:34,100
look at this and sometimes have

4316
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:37,100
to read it two or three times

4317
02:33:37,100 --> 02:33:40,100
to understand so I want to

4318
02:33:40,100 --> 02:33:41,100
thank the staff for the

4319
02:33:41,100 --> 02:33:43,100
detailed and information,

4320
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:45,100
including the comments that we

4321
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:47,401
received from the public.

4322
02:33:48,100 --> 02:33:49,100
I want to thank you.

4323
02:33:49,100 --> 02:33:51,100
thank you mr. Chair.

4324
02:33:51,100 --> 02:33:52,100
>> thank you commissioner

4325
02:33:52,100 --> 02:33:54,100
terrones.

4326
02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:55,100
commissioner bergida.

4327
02:33:55,100 --> 02:33:57,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

4328
02:33:57,100 --> 02:33:59,100
all those that extended invites

4329
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:01,100
to us to come visit your

4330
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:02,100
neighborhood, I would extend

4331
02:34:02,100 --> 02:34:05,100
that to city council, because

4332
02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:08,100
as a commissioner terrones said

4333
02:34:08,100 --> 02:34:10,100
ultimately they have the final

4334
02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:11,100
decision.

4335
02:34:11,100 --> 02:34:12,100
I did have another question for

4336
02:34:12,100 --> 02:34:14,401
the applicant regarding the

4337
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:17,100
setback.

4338
02:34:17,100 --> 02:34:20,100
mainly, if we were to propose a

4339
02:34:20,100 --> 02:34:22,100
amendment so the setback

4340
02:34:22,100 --> 02:34:24,401
matched existing site, so

4341
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:30,100
whatever that calculation is,

4342
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:32,401
whether it's an additional 300

4343
02:34:34,100 --> 02:34:36,100
feet and then put the same spot

4344
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:39,100
for the underground blasting as

4345
02:34:40,100 --> 02:34:42,100
well, would that be amenable or

4346
02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:44,100
would the applicant be open to

4347
02:34:44,100 --> 02:34:45,100
that?

4348
02:34:45,100 --> 02:34:46,100
>> commissioner, we worked a

4349
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:48,100
long time on the dimensions and

4350
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:50,100
I say, we went a thousand

4351
02:34:50,100 --> 02:34:53,601
feet,er which is currents udo

4352
02:34:55,100 --> 02:34:56,100
which is existing quarry.

4353
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:57,100
which is hard.

4354
02:34:57,100 --> 02:34:59,100
that is lot of rock left there,

4355
02:34:59,100 --> 02:35:00,100
but we thought it was the right

4356
02:35:00,100 --> 02:35:03,100
thing to and meet currents udo

4357
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:05,100
and underground is underground

4358
02:35:05,100 --> 02:35:07,100
and we need the extent that the

4359
02:35:07,100 --> 02:35:09,100
200 foot setback.

4360
02:35:09,100 --> 02:35:11,100
we are going 3 and 400 feet.

4361
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:12,100
>> so that would be a no?

4362
02:35:12,100 --> 02:35:14,100
>> right.

4363
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:17,100
>> thank you.

4364
02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:18,100
>> any additional questions?

4365
02:35:18,100 --> 02:35:20,100
commissioner chapman.

4366
02:35:20,100 --> 02:35:22,100
>> thank you chair.

4367
02:35:22,100 --> 02:35:25,100
I very much appreciate all the

4368
02:35:25,100 --> 02:35:27,100
comments by our citizens and I

4369
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:29,100
believe they have some

4370
02:35:29,100 --> 02:35:31,100
legitimate concerns, which I do

4371
02:35:31,100 --> 02:35:33,100
believe like my colleagues they

4372
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:35,100
should bring these before city

4373
02:35:35,100 --> 02:35:36,100
council.

4374
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:39,100
however, our job at planning

4375
02:35:43,100 --> 02:35:45,100
commission is do the proposals,

4376
02:35:45,100 --> 02:35:46,100
any proposal, do they conform

4377
02:35:46,100 --> 02:35:48,100
to our comprehensive plan and

4378
02:35:48,100 --> 02:35:49,100
our unified development

4379
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:51,100
ordinance.

4380
02:35:51,100 --> 02:35:53,100
as they are proposed, staff

4381
02:35:53,100 --> 02:35:55,401
recommends believes they do.

4382
02:35:58,100 --> 02:36:00,100
whether or not, if this special

4383
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:02,100
use permit is ultimately

4384
02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:05,100
granted, I am wondering if

4385
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:07,100
perhaps part of the agreement

4386
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:09,100
should be that perhaps there

4387
02:36:09,100 --> 02:36:11,100
should be annual report that is

4388
02:36:11,100 --> 02:36:13,100
more then a annual report.

4389
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:14,100
perhaps it should be a

4390
02:36:14,100 --> 02:36:16,401
quarterly or semi-annual report

4391
02:36:17,100 --> 02:36:18,100
to be sure that whatever

4392
02:36:18,100 --> 02:36:21,100
stipulations have been put in

4393
02:36:21,100 --> 02:36:22,100
place that in fact they are

4394
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:24,100
being adhered to.

4395
02:36:24,100 --> 02:36:26,100
I do have one question for the

4396
02:36:26,100 --> 02:36:28,100
applicant again, if you don't

4397
02:36:28,100 --> 02:36:30,100
mind.

4398
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:35,100
mr. Peterson you mentioned

4399
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:37,100
earlier that you are going to

4400
02:36:37,100 --> 02:36:40,100
be putting improvement into the

4401
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:43,401
current dust mitigation system

4402
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:46,100
there?

4403
02:36:46,100 --> 02:36:47,100
>> that is right.

4404
02:36:47,100 --> 02:36:48,100
>> what is the expecting

4405
02:36:48,100 --> 02:36:50,100
benefit that will be achieved

4406
02:36:50,100 --> 02:36:52,401
by adding these improvements?

4407
02:36:53,100 --> 02:36:55,100
>> so, from a qualitative

4408
02:36:55,100 --> 02:36:57,100
perspective I pick on the one I

4409
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:59,100
found most compelling,

4410
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:01,100
multifaceted, but the transfer

4411
02:37:01,100 --> 02:37:02,100
points where the rock drops

4412
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:05,601
down and creates the most dust,

4413
02:37:07,100 --> 02:37:09,100
what we are looking at is

4414
02:37:09,100 --> 02:37:11,100
enclosing the transfer points.

4415
02:37:11,100 --> 02:37:14,100
dust comes up and enclosed and

4416
02:37:14,100 --> 02:37:16,100
contained u so that is a

4417
02:37:16,100 --> 02:37:17,100
qualitative answer without

4418
02:37:17,100 --> 02:37:19,100
going through the process we go

4419
02:37:19,100 --> 02:37:20,100
through at the national vendors

4420
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:23,100
coming to help with the

4421
02:37:23,100 --> 02:37:24,100
improvements.

4422
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:27,100
that hopefully gives a tangible

4423
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,100
feel.

4424
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:31,100
that is a major change.

4425
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:32,100
crushers is biggest dust

4426
02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:34,100
producer and the biggest part

4427
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:36,100
of the crusher that produces

4428
02:37:36,100 --> 02:37:37,100
dust are the transfer points.

4429
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:39,100
the primary transfer points

4430
02:37:39,100 --> 02:37:40,100
looking to totally contain

4431
02:37:40,100 --> 02:37:43,100
those, which is super effective

4432
02:37:43,100 --> 02:37:44,100
for dust mitigation.

4433
02:37:44,100 --> 02:37:46,100
>> when they are presenting to

4434
02:37:46,100 --> 02:37:48,100
you their plan for dust

4435
02:37:48,100 --> 02:37:50,100
mitigation, what do they tell

4436
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:51,100
you it will do?

4437
02:37:51,100 --> 02:37:53,100
do they give you percentages of

4438
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:54,100
reduction?

4439
02:37:54,100 --> 02:37:55,100
is there anything you can hang

4440
02:37:55,100 --> 02:37:58,100
your hat on with regards to-you

4441
02:37:58,100 --> 02:38:01,100
can expect to see 50 percent

4442
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:03,401
decrease in dust pollution?

4443
02:38:04,100 --> 02:38:06,401
>> this is the quantitative

4444
02:38:08,100 --> 02:38:10,100
back and forth with we could

4445
02:38:10,100 --> 02:38:12,401
honesty hypothesize and give

4446
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:15,100
percentage, but we talked to

4447
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:17,100
neighbors about this.

4448
02:38:18,100 --> 02:38:21,100
it isn't that clear but we can

4449
02:38:21,100 --> 02:38:23,100
have a baseline and test

4450
02:38:23,100 --> 02:38:25,100
afterwards and what we are told

4451
02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:27,100
is, by the experts there will

4452
02:38:27,100 --> 02:38:30,100
be a remarkable difference, but

4453
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:34,100
no one is ready to assign a

4454
02:38:34,100 --> 02:38:36,100
percentage to it:I wish I had

4455
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:37,100
one for you.

4456
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:38,100
>> one final question, how long

4457
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:40,401
have the improvements been

4458
02:38:41,100 --> 02:38:42,100
available to you?

4459
02:38:42,100 --> 02:38:44,100
>> I don't think any of the

4460
02:38:44,100 --> 02:38:46,100
technology is brand new.

4461
02:38:46,100 --> 02:38:48,100
they are constantly upping the

4462
02:38:48,100 --> 02:38:50,100
standards and we agreed every

4463
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:52,100
time we do improvements we make

4464
02:38:52,100 --> 02:38:54,100
sure all improvements meet the

4465
02:38:54,100 --> 02:38:57,100
latest standards but it is

4466
02:38:58,100 --> 02:38:59,100
wrong to say anything we are

4467
02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:01,100
talking about was invented

4468
02:39:01,100 --> 02:39:02,100
yesterday but end of the day we

4469
02:39:02,100 --> 02:39:03,100
are committed day one meeting

4470
02:39:03,100 --> 02:39:06,100
all requirements, but this is

4471
02:39:07,100 --> 02:39:08,100
extraordinary what we are

4472
02:39:08,100 --> 02:39:10,100
proposing now in exchange for a

4473
02:39:10,100 --> 02:39:12,100
sup as the bottom line.

4474
02:39:12,100 --> 02:39:13,100
>> thank you.

4475
02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:14,100
>> yes, sir.

4476
02:39:14,100 --> 02:39:16,401
>> stay there mr. Peterson.

4477
02:39:18,100 --> 02:39:19,100
any additional?

4478
02:39:19,100 --> 02:39:22,100
just a couple quick ones.

4479
02:39:24,100 --> 02:39:27,100
as far as dust control

4480
02:39:27,100 --> 02:39:28,100
technology, how would you

4481
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:30,100
contrast what was in place in

4482
02:39:30,100 --> 02:39:32,100
1976 versus what we are doing

4483
02:39:32,100 --> 02:39:33,100
now?

4484
02:39:33,100 --> 02:39:35,100
what is the level of change in

4485
02:39:35,100 --> 02:39:37,100
that and what is anticipated in

4486
02:39:37,100 --> 02:39:38,100
the future?

4487
02:39:38,100 --> 02:39:41,100
>> do you have deep specific

4488
02:39:41,100 --> 02:39:42,100
explanation?

4489
02:39:42,100 --> 02:39:45,100
I know the high level, but I

4490
02:39:45,100 --> 02:39:48,100
invite you-I know we talked

4491
02:39:48,100 --> 02:39:50,100
about a lot that technology

4492
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:52,100
increasingly is better like our

4493
02:39:52,100 --> 02:39:55,100
computer our phone or cars.

4494
02:39:55,100 --> 02:39:56,100
everything.

4495
02:39:56,100 --> 02:39:58,100
but, I don't-if you do you can

4496
02:39:58,100 --> 02:40:00,100
say it, but if not--this is dan

4497
02:40:00,100 --> 02:40:02,401
jones again introduced early

4498
02:40:03,100 --> 02:40:04,100
on.

4499
02:40:04,100 --> 02:40:05,100
>> not opposed to high level.

4500
02:40:05,100 --> 02:40:06,100
just trying to get a idea.

4501
02:40:06,100 --> 02:40:08,100
>> I don't want to gyp on the

4502
02:40:08,100 --> 02:40:09,100
question.

4503
02:40:09,100 --> 02:40:11,100
>> it is obviously a continual

4504
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:13,100
problem.

4505
02:40:13,100 --> 02:40:15,100
>> dan jones.

4506
02:40:15,100 --> 02:40:17,100
8014 northwest.

4507
02:40:19,100 --> 02:40:21,100
missouri, 64152.

4508
02:40:22,100 --> 02:40:24,401
1976 they didn't use dust

4509
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:27,100
control.

4510
02:40:27,100 --> 02:40:30,100
and, kurt talked about transfer

4511
02:40:31,100 --> 02:40:33,100
points but there is wet

4512
02:40:33,100 --> 02:40:35,100
suppression, nozzle technology

4513
02:40:35,100 --> 02:40:39,100
for spray bars, used to be you

4514
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:41,100
drain water using hoses or

4515
02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:43,100
piping hoses to come to piping

4516
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:45,100
and drill holes in the pipes

4517
02:40:45,100 --> 02:40:46,100
and it drops water on there.

4518
02:40:46,100 --> 02:40:49,100
now there are spray nozzles,

4519
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:52,100
particle size, the different

4520
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:54,100
dust particles are attracted so

4521
02:40:54,100 --> 02:40:57,601
if you have a smaller water

4522
02:40:59,100 --> 02:41:00,100
molecule it attracts the dust

4523
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:02,100
molecule and adhere to and drop

4524
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:04,100
it out.

4525
02:41:04,100 --> 02:41:07,100
and then the second huge part

4526
02:41:07,100 --> 02:41:08,100
about it is all the paving we

4527
02:41:08,100 --> 02:41:09,100
are doing.

4528
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:10,100
the trucks kick up a huge

4529
02:41:10,100 --> 02:41:13,100
amount of dust and we water the

4530
02:41:13,100 --> 02:41:14,100
roads, we put 80 thousand

4531
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:16,100
gallons of water on the road a

4532
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:19,100
day currently, and then the

4533
02:41:19,100 --> 02:41:21,100
trucks track it out on 159

4534
02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:23,100
street that mud comes off, it

4535
02:41:23,100 --> 02:41:25,100
dries and then they drive over

4536
02:41:25,100 --> 02:41:28,100
it and creates more dust.

4537
02:41:28,100 --> 02:41:31,601
it is multi-faceted what we are

4538
02:41:32,100 --> 02:41:35,100
planning on doing, and the

4539
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:37,100
enclosure of transfer points is

4540
02:41:37,100 --> 02:41:38,100
going to be significant.

4541
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:40,100
the addition of the updated

4542
02:41:40,100 --> 02:41:42,100
technology on the spray bars

4543
02:41:42,100 --> 02:41:44,100
and spray nozzles in different

4544
02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:46,401
locations of the plant,

4545
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:48,100
significant.

4546
02:41:48,100 --> 02:41:49,100
paving and doing the sweeping

4547
02:41:49,100 --> 02:41:51,100
and mud control devices to keep

4548
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:54,100
that stuff from getting on 159.

4549
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:56,100
remember we are one operator of

4550
02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:58,100
multiple operators that are on

4551
02:41:58,100 --> 02:42:01,100
159, but doing those things is

4552
02:42:01,100 --> 02:42:03,100
going to significantly reduce

4553
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:04,100
the dust.

4554
02:42:04,100 --> 02:42:06,100
the paving will reduce a

4555
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:08,401
significant amount created away

4556
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:11,100
from the crusher the winds from

4557
02:42:11,100 --> 02:42:14,100
the south pick up and blow.

4558
02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:16,100
>> thank you, dan.

4559
02:42:17,100 --> 02:42:19,100
commissioner--

4560
02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:22,100
>> there is a lot of issues

4561
02:42:22,100 --> 02:42:23,100
involved with this obviously.

4562
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:26,100
we have dust and vibration,

4563
02:42:27,100 --> 02:42:30,100
health, sheet rock and other

4564
02:42:31,100 --> 02:42:33,100
things we heard about.

4565
02:42:33,100 --> 02:42:36,100
I am understanding of all of

4566
02:42:36,100 --> 02:42:37,100
it.

4567
02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:38,100
we had this information since

4568
02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:41,100
last thursday evening is all.

4569
02:42:43,100 --> 02:42:44,100
the planning commission deals

4570
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:46,401
with land use issues.

4571
02:42:48,100 --> 02:42:49,100
rather then a lot of issues

4572
02:42:49,100 --> 02:42:51,100
brought up tonight.

4573
02:42:52,100 --> 02:42:55,100
we had it just since last

4574
02:42:55,100 --> 02:42:57,100
thursday, we have a very

4575
02:42:57,100 --> 02:42:58,100
competent planning staff

4576
02:42:58,100 --> 02:43:00,100
dealing with this apparently

4577
02:43:00,100 --> 02:43:02,100
for many months and studying

4578
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:04,100
it.

4579
02:43:07,100 --> 02:43:08,100
what is already said from three

4580
02:43:08,100 --> 02:43:10,401
other commissioners here, this

4581
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:14,100
is ultimately up to the city

4582
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:15,100
council that can deal with

4583
02:43:15,100 --> 02:43:17,100
those issues, rather then just

4584
02:43:17,100 --> 02:43:19,100
the land use issues.

4585
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:22,100
so, because that, because it is

4586
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:24,100
land use issue and not we don't

4587
02:43:24,100 --> 02:43:26,100
deal with health issues or

4588
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:28,100
vibrations here, I have to

4589
02:43:28,100 --> 02:43:29,100
differ to our staff

4590
02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:31,401
recommendation and support this

4591
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:34,100
ultimately.

4592
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:37,100
>> commissioner seeling.

4593
02:43:37,100 --> 02:43:40,100
>> I will never say as

4594
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:42,100
eloquently as others, but I

4595
02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:43,100
want to recognize folks that

4596
02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:45,100
come and speak at commission

4597
02:43:45,100 --> 02:43:47,100
meetings and exercise your

4598
02:43:47,100 --> 02:43:49,100
right to engage city staff and

4599
02:43:49,100 --> 02:43:50,100
planning commission and

4600
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:51,100
ultimately your city council,

4601
02:43:51,100 --> 02:43:53,100
so thank you all for being here

4602
02:43:53,100 --> 02:43:54,100
tonight for that.

4603
02:43:54,100 --> 02:43:57,100
I am sympathetic to all our

4604
02:43:57,100 --> 02:43:58,100
concerns with dust and your

4605
02:43:58,100 --> 02:44:00,100
property and your health and

4606
02:44:00,100 --> 02:44:02,100
all of the things you mentioned

4607
02:44:02,100 --> 02:44:03,100
tonight.

4608
02:44:03,100 --> 02:44:06,100
we had probably 225 pages or so

4609
02:44:06,100 --> 02:44:08,100
of material we read that we had

4610
02:44:08,100 --> 02:44:11,100
since thursday, and so it was a

4611
02:44:11,100 --> 02:44:12,100
quick read and quick

4612
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:13,100
understanding of what is going

4613
02:44:13,100 --> 02:44:15,100
on, but you all should know

4614
02:44:15,100 --> 02:44:17,100
city staff works on this stuff

4615
02:44:17,100 --> 02:44:19,100
for months engaging with the

4616
02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:21,100
applicant and I think they have

4617
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:23,100
put together a long list of

4618
02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:25,100
stipulations that will

4619
02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:28,100
ultimately not solve your

4620
02:44:28,100 --> 02:44:30,100
problems, but improve current

4621
02:44:30,100 --> 02:44:32,100
conditions with the paving of

4622
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:35,100
the road and the rock crusher,

4623
02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:37,100
dust control I think all that

4624
02:44:37,100 --> 02:44:40,100
will ultimately help with the

4625
02:44:40,100 --> 02:44:42,100
issues you are facing.

4626
02:44:42,100 --> 02:44:43,100
as a planning commission, we

4627
02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:45,100
have a very narrow scope what

4628
02:44:45,100 --> 02:44:46,100
we can look at.

4629
02:44:46,100 --> 02:44:48,100
your city council has a broader

4630
02:44:48,100 --> 02:44:50,100
scope and I would encourage

4631
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:52,100
those of you that still have

4632
02:44:52,100 --> 02:44:54,401
concerns to engage city

4633
02:44:55,100 --> 02:44:56,100
council.

4634
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:57,100
they can take a lot more action

4635
02:44:57,100 --> 02:44:59,100
then what we can take, like

4636
02:44:59,100 --> 02:45:01,100
commissioner said earlier.

4637
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:03,100
this is a land use issue and

4638
02:45:03,100 --> 02:45:04,100
that is the limited scope we

4639
02:45:04,100 --> 02:45:07,100
are allowed to look at, so I am

4640
02:45:07,100 --> 02:45:09,100
in support of this measure and

4641
02:45:09,100 --> 02:45:10,100
will be voting in favor of it

4642
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:12,100
and I would encourage those out

4643
02:45:12,100 --> 02:45:15,100
there to please engage your

4644
02:45:16,100 --> 02:45:18,100
city council if you have

4645
02:45:18,100 --> 02:45:19,100
additional concerns.

4646
02:45:19,100 --> 02:45:20,100
thank you.

4647
02:45:20,100 --> 02:45:21,100
>> commissioner lynn.

4648
02:45:21,100 --> 02:45:22,100
>> thank you, mr. Chair.

4649
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:24,100
I really appreciate the forward

4650
02:45:24,100 --> 02:45:26,100
thinking that we do as a city

4651
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:29,100
to keep areas of our city set

4652
02:45:29,100 --> 02:45:31,100
aside for neighborhood

4653
02:45:31,100 --> 02:45:32,100
commercial.

4654
02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:33,100
I really think that is a better

4655
02:45:33,100 --> 02:45:35,100
use for this.

4656
02:45:37,100 --> 02:45:40,100
more importantly though, I do

4657
02:45:40,100 --> 02:45:41,100
think because of the health

4658
02:45:41,100 --> 02:45:42,100
concerns and I realize it is a

4659
02:45:42,100 --> 02:45:45,100
land use, but as someone else

4660
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:46,100
stated earlier, the citizen

4661
02:45:46,100 --> 02:45:47,100
standards are different from

4662
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:49,100
industry standards, and I think

4663
02:45:49,100 --> 02:45:52,100
is about what you can't see.

4664
02:45:52,100 --> 02:45:54,100
not about the dust on the cars

4665
02:45:54,100 --> 02:45:56,100
or the dust you have to do

4666
02:45:56,100 --> 02:45:57,100
inside the house, it is dust

4667
02:45:57,100 --> 02:46:00,601
settling inside the lungs and I

4668
02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:02,100
can't be in favor of something

4669
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:04,100
that could potentially hurt our

4670
02:46:04,100 --> 02:46:08,201
fellow olathens so I will be a

4671
02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:13,100
no.

4672
02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:14,100
>> anyone else?

4673
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:16,100
couple quick questions for

4674
02:46:16,100 --> 02:46:17,100
staff before we move to a vote

4675
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:18,100
on this.

4676
02:46:18,100 --> 02:46:20,100
so, first of all, I don't know

4677
02:46:20,100 --> 02:46:23,100
whether nathan or--is there a

4678
02:46:24,100 --> 02:46:27,100
current anything on the cip

4679
02:46:27,100 --> 02:46:29,100
regarding improvements to 151

4680
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:31,100
street?

4681
02:46:31,100 --> 02:46:33,100
>> there is not anything in the

4682
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:35,401
5 year cip on 151 street.

4683
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:37,100
>> okay.

4684
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:40,601
so, based on what we are

4685
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:42,100
dealing with right here,

4686
02:46:42,100 --> 02:46:44,100
obviously the council will be

4687
02:46:44,100 --> 02:46:48,100
the final say on this, is there

4688
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:49,100
any scenario where these

4689
02:46:49,100 --> 02:46:51,100
actions would lead to the

4690
02:46:51,100 --> 02:46:53,100
quarry ceasing operation?

4691
02:46:57,100 --> 02:46:59,100
>> sorry, chief community

4692
02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:01,100
development officer.

4693
02:47:02,100 --> 02:47:04,100
there is always a process for

4694
02:47:04,100 --> 02:47:06,100
revoking special use permit if

4695
02:47:06,100 --> 02:47:08,401
there's gross violations, so

4696
02:47:09,100 --> 02:47:11,100
that could be enacted any time.

4697
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:13,100
>> okay.

4698
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:16,100
alright.

4699
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:18,401
any other further discussion?

4700
02:47:19,100 --> 02:47:20,100
commissioner bergida.

4701
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:22,100
>> thank you, mr. Chairman.

4702
02:47:22,100 --> 02:47:24,100
if I could take my vote I'm

4703
02:47:24,100 --> 02:47:27,100
about to make and last vote I

4704
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:28,100
made and switch them I would

4705
02:47:28,100 --> 02:47:31,100
and on this one, I try to get

4706
02:47:31,100 --> 02:47:34,100
to a yes, but for similar

4707
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:36,401
concerns that have been

4708
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:40,100
expressed, if it was the same

4709
02:47:40,100 --> 02:47:42,100
already been there, it is

4710
02:47:42,100 --> 02:47:43,100
already there.

4711
02:47:43,100 --> 02:47:45,100
but because it will be moving

4712
02:47:45,100 --> 02:47:47,100
closer I will also be voting

4713
02:47:47,100 --> 02:47:48,100
no.

4714
02:47:48,100 --> 02:47:50,100
(applause)

4715
02:47:51,100 --> 02:47:53,100
>> anyone else?

4716
02:47:54,100 --> 02:47:57,100
if not, may I have a motion on

4717
02:47:57,100 --> 02:47:59,100
su26-0007?

4718
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:05,100
>> mr. Chair, make a motion

4719
02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:08,601
that we approve su26-0007 as

4720
02:48:18,100 --> 02:48:20,100
stipulated by staff.

4721
02:48:21,100 --> 02:48:22,100
>> thank you commissioner

4722
02:48:22,100 --> 02:48:23,100
terrones.

4723
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:24,100
do I have a second?

4724
02:48:24,100 --> 02:48:25,100
>> second.

4725
02:48:25,100 --> 02:48:26,100
>> thank you commissioner

4726
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:27,100
chapman.

4727
02:48:27,100 --> 02:48:28,100
mrs. Will, please take a roll

4728
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:30,100
call vote.

4729
02:48:31,100 --> 02:48:33,100
>> commissioner corcoran, yes.

4730
02:48:33,100 --> 02:48:35,100
commissioner brown, yes.

4731
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:37,100
commissioner terrones, yes.

4732
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:40,100
commissioner bergida, no.

4733
02:48:40,100 --> 02:48:42,100
commissioner chapman, yes.

4734
02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:44,100
commissioner seeling, yes.

4735
02:48:45,100 --> 02:48:47,100
commissioner lynn, no.

4736
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:50,100
chair janner, yes.

4737
02:48:51,100 --> 02:48:53,401
that motion passes 6-2.

4738
02:48:55,100 --> 02:48:56,100
>> move forward to

4739
02:48:56,100 --> 02:48:57,100
announcement.

4740
02:48:57,100 --> 02:48:58,100
city staff you have anything

4741
02:48:58,100 --> 02:48:59,100
this evening?

4742
02:48:59,100 --> 02:49:00,100
>> none this evening.

4743
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:01,100
thank you.

4744
02:49:01,100 --> 02:49:02,100
>> alright.

4745
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:04,100
based on that, this meeting is

4746
02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:05,100
hereby adjourned.

4747
02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:06,100
thank you for being here this

4748
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:07,100
evening.

4749
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:09,100
[meeting adjourned]