[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:38] So tonight we're here for a few minutes like this, in fact, the full difficulties to review the river fog, regional housing needs assessment. [0:52] So as we're aware, if a housing plan, now we're going to be regional housing plan, by Christmas to town planner. [1:00] The pre-boiled crew is in one of the housing workers that is from the town for regional housing, [1:06] Robin. It just joined, but this is her first meeting, so Nick and I will be presenting. [1:14] So what I provided you with, of your toll, we could get through this an hour, there's about 50 slides. [1:20] So we're going to go a little speeding and then we're going to take a few breaks for discussion and questions. [1:28] In front of you, you have some questions to think about. [1:33] What we're going to do with this discussion is the region has prepared this and we're looking for feedback for things that you may not necessarily believe or correct. [1:45] Just from your local knowledge and experiences as well as comments. [1:49] uh, so do your findings align the what you see locally and so forth. So in the essence of time in the seven and clock planning meeting, we're going to continue. [2:01] I also distributed to you a regional housing needs assessment, um, deliverables timeline, the proposals to have this completed by June of 2027. [2:11] And right now we're in phase one of baseline and data updates that was supposed to be completed by June so we are here in August so I suspect this timeline will get continued. [2:26] They've also provided you with a handout with the existing condition summary for old [2:32] sabreux with some demographic workforce housing market information and what I'm going to [2:40] do now is I'm going to jump into this presentation so that there will be some breaks where [2:48] if you can just take a look at those questions or things that come up Joanne is going to [2:56] So, right now, the baseline is that we're updating the regional housing plan, demographics, housing characteristics and economics is a little bit about what we're going to discuss tonight. [3:12] So, the region does have a disclaimer about the data, the use that I was mispronounced. [3:21] It's a decennial census from 2020, and it can only be compared against other decennial 10 year interval data. [3:28] The last comparable is 2020. [3:31] We can't use the AC as one year estimates because we're using five year estimates. [3:37] So we can use the most recent 20, 20, 4 data in compare. [3:42] And just like you're not aware, the ACS is the American Community Survey Census. [3:48] Thank you. [3:50] That was my question. [3:51] So the one thing no survey or census data is exact is all an estimate, but that's okay. [3:58] So what are demographics? [3:59] The demographics tell us about the people currently living in the region and they help us make assumptions about the type of housing. [4:08] We need no order to support different groups. [4:11] So we'll look at total population total households household size age and income. [4:17] Let's take a look at population overview. [4:20] Total population has risen from 2014 to 2024 a little over 300 people. [4:30] The largest growth in population occurred between 2019 and 2024 rising about 5%. [4:37] Key takeaways for this is housing is for households and not individuals. [4:43] So that's the thing to think about, and in 2020, 2024, [4:49] population is arranged into approximately 4,672 households, [4:55] a 10% increase since 2014. [4:59] The average household size has gradually declined, [5:03] from 2.41 in 2014 to 2.14 persons per household, [5:09] indicating a shift towards smaller household propositions. [5:14] And overall, the data reflects gradual household growth [5:16] alongside a trend towards smaller household sizes. [5:22] Household sizing composition. [5:25] And also, the two-person household remains the dominant household type [5:29] of probably years, and it continues to grow. [5:33] One of the one-person households is increasing. [5:37] And it's starting to narrow the gap between the two-person household. [5:42] The three-person household is on the rise in 2019 before declining sharply in 2024, while [5:49] the four-person household is a decrease overall, but still surpasses the three-person [5:54] household. [5:57] That's probably about age. [5:59] The age structure shifts notably older over time, but strong growth in the 55 to 64, [6:05] and 75 plus cohorts, while younger and mid-life groups generally decline. [6:11] The 45, the 54 cohort dropped sharply to under a thousand, while 25 to 44 remains relatively stable with a little bit of grip. [6:23] Children in youth decline overall, with five to 17 falling, the greatest, and under five slightly decreasing, reinforcing fewer younger households. [6:33] school district enrollment. And the key takeaway is between 2014 and 2024, we saw the [6:44] decline of 27%. The largest enrollment losses occurred between 2014 and 2020 after [6:51] which enrollment relatively stabilized and then virtually rebounded. So in summary, [6:59] the same calculation is stabilizing after a period of decline. We're experiencing [7:04] a complex age structure shift with growth at both ends really young and 65 plus and we [7:14] remain a small household community typically in the ones to burst households. [7:23] Any questions related to the four questions that we have any questions related to the four [7:28] questions that we've [7:35] We're talking about being to take a minute or two, I know it's a little bit sermation to go through. [7:40] But how about people versus households? The number of households is about ten percent. [7:45] There was population, there was a flat, but that's like a really key reason they didn't hear. [7:50] So we have four households that we did, even though we want to say how we are people. [7:55] I don't know how to school throughout this place. [7:56] But yeah, that's a lot. [7:59] So you think about families moving out of town and one or two people households will begin and that's where you see that's got to see that household [8:10] So I think also losing children now we're going to school to go to private school [8:15] That's a possibility with the school popular and I'm so [8:19] Thanks for playing with me [8:20] No, yeah [8:21] Is that a practical question [8:22] Yeah, and we you know we build more houses [8:27] We're going to get into that. [8:29] That's what the answer is in here. [8:43] So what our housing character is. [8:47] This is what they're looking for is a risk of telling our current housing supply. [8:51] What it looks like, pelvis assessed over the supply of housing that has matches, the needs of our population. [8:58] So we're going to talk about total units unit type size, [9:01] 80th portion, and 10-year-old. [9:05] The total number of units total housing units remain. [9:08] relatively stable over time with a slight dip in 2019 fell by a rebound in 2004 to 5,985 units. [9:19] Overall, vacancy is largely driven by seasonal units, seasonal vacancy declines from 1267 units [9:27] in 2014 to 1962 and 2019 before rising again to 1250 and 2024. [9:36] Now, on season old, vacancy remains stable in 2014 and 2019 and 330, then dropped sharply to 63 units by 2024. [9:50] Vacancy trend reflect a housing stock heavily influenced by season old youths. [9:59] Overcraft, one person per run is not recorded in any year indicating no instances under the better across the periods. [10:07] severe overcrowding one-and-a-half persons per room [10:11] increases, known in the 2019's in 97 households [10:15] after being in present in 25 households in 2014 [10:19] before dropping zero by 2024. [10:23] Overall, overcrowding, here's a limit in episodic [10:27] with a temporary spike in severe overcrowding in 2019 [10:30] that is not sustained. [10:36] The way we count this change, [10:38] the fact that like, it's spiked up so much and came back down, it's interesting. [10:45] I thought something like it was, it was the methodology, when it was the latest [10:48] test data of this calendar change, you know, that's a question for your [10:53] record. [10:54] When's the question? [10:56] It's the fact that like it's spiked up so much and then basically [10:58] we'll all look back to zero. [11:00] Like, the way they counted, they go about changing for that 2019 data point, it's just [11:05] you wouldn't think to see it very, quite that much. [11:08] And with five years, if it was related to both of them, people who have heard about the years are off. [11:14] Yeah. [11:15] I don't know either somewhat when I think of the methodology here. [11:19] That data. [11:23] Thousand unit types. [11:26] E. Take away single family and detached from remain the dominant housing type. [11:30] Low fee family, housing makes up a smaller but evolving chair of the stock with group in certain categories, particularly one unit attached. [11:40] 20 plus a unit buildings, while other mid-size categories fluctuate or decline by 2020, [11:51] housing [11:52] unit size. Key tape widths. The share housing stock is dominated by three veteran units [11:58] despite the number of unit defining your 2020-4. Housing stock continues to be concentrated [12:05] in mid-size units, two to four bedrooms, which made up the majority of units overall. [12:10] Board of Veterans' increase notably by 2024, surpassing 2014 levels in integrating a growing [12:18] share for larger, size, family housing, overall the composition shows gradual re-balancing [12:25] with real concentrating on more veteran units in a relative decline in two-bedroom hub. [12:35] Housing Unin8, the housing stock is predominantly older with most units being built prior [12:40] in 1990. [12:43] It just fits. [12:45] The structure and activity implies significantly in the 90s with relatively few units [12:49] built since 2010, in 63 units comes constructed after 2020. [12:55] And Nick and I were talking about this with the presentation. [12:59] We don't think it's the same. The units not demo rebuild, so we're seeing a lot of [13:03] thousands get torn down and rebuild, but it's the same units and these numbers just don't. [13:10] makes sense to us. Yeah, that's something that housing unit condition. Housing deficiencies [13:16] decline steadily over time with both matters of deficiency decreasing from 2014 through 2024. [13:24] Units lacking plumbing fall from 10 in 2014 to just 1 in 2024. [13:39] Well, [13:39] not sure about [13:45] when you think about the complete kitchen units, [13:47] whether they talk about it or lack of plumbing. [13:51] I mean, even seasonal residences, that's plumbing. [13:55] So there's just going to say that. [13:57] That's super important. [13:58] Yeah, so there's full number of units anyway too, right? [14:05] I'm unless they're talking about like seasonal water service. [14:08] You want to see a round of it, so that's something they need to clarify. [14:13] That's what I'm saying. [14:14] That's what I'm saying. [14:14] and you key takeaways, [14:16] folder-occupied housing remains the dominant [14:19] in your type and it shares increased over time. [14:22] Render-occupied housing remains a smaller share [14:25] but actually it's over time increasing in 2019 [14:28] before declining again by 2024 to 672 units. [14:34] The 10-year structure becomes [14:37] and remains strongly on our occupied [14:40] with the tricky rental opportunity over time. [14:47] assisted housing units. [14:49] Assisted housing units increased over time growing from [14:53] 96 and 2014 to 162 and 2024 with the most of the growth [14:59] current between 20. [15:00] 14. In 2019. Debristricted units also rise significantly over that period, increasing from 20 and 20, 14 to 78, and 20, 24, [15:10] indicating expansion of the permanently restricted before Bill House. [15:19] Housing summer. [15:21] Tightening the stable, totally units holding steady, and non-seasonal frequencies dropping sharply, reflecting strong demand for year-round, [15:28] housing even because seasonal homes continues to make up a large share of the stock. [15:34] Dominated by low-density owner occupied single-family homes with detached units consistently [15:39] representing the vast majority of housing and only limited, deeply-systemed growth and [15:44] multi-family or rental launch. [15:46] Characterized by a housing shop that is aging and slow-to-renew, as most homes were built [15:51] before 1980 and due to construction since 2010 remains minimal, signaling long-term reinvestment [15:57] and limited opportunity for modern diverse housing types. [16:02] Then your pattern shows strengthening ownership market [16:05] with owner-occupied units rising [16:07] with recent years while rent or occupied units decline, [16:11] reinforcing a market that increasingly favors homeowners over. [16:19] What is this? [16:19] This is a question. [16:20] So any thoughts or questions about? [16:24] I don't know if it's been corrected [16:27] going on behind the burby camp. Those were all rentals, right? [16:32] That's right. That's right. [16:33] No, they're rentals. [16:35] They're all of this. [16:36] So wouldn't we seen a rise in rentals? [16:41] Because of that? [16:42] I think they need to revisit the numbers because they're [16:46] 180, 6 units there. [16:48] And I think it depends on when they pick it up with the [16:51] is two and that I think was they're just funded. We went 186 and 38 there or our D restricted, [16:59] which kind of makes sense where it goes from 20 units and we have other developments to 38. [17:05] Verse 78, there's something that I think they need to revisit those numbers or maybe it's just [17:10] a sphere from that census. What are those old women? They were sealed at different times. So sometimes [17:17] This is what happens. We'll permit something, but they don't really go on the books to [17:22] the project stuff, but it could be partial. So they could do a census and maybe [17:28] 40 of 186 have sea ups. So I think you get to put that into it as well. [17:39] I have a question. [17:41] Yes. [17:43] Back in the beginning of this section, it was probably around slide 19 or 20. You talked about [17:47] increase in 20 unit buildings, but we don't, I don't really recall any 20 unit buildings around [17:56] that time unless it's Sabrox station. [18:04] Sabrox station and unless they're calling in 20 units in [18:08] a housing development, maybe Anneford? [18:13] Yeah, there's no 20 units in each building. I think it was a [18:17] few slides ahead of us, like around. Thanks 13. [18:25] I can't see the page numbers on this. [18:33] Yeah, right there with growth and certain categories, particularly one unit attached and 20 plus unit buildings. [18:54] They're considering the station. [18:59] They're totally okay. [19:04] So maybe that really should say 20 unit developments versus building that something they should clarify if this is what they're. [19:12] I think that tough, I mean, when it talks about units, but yeah, I know what you're saying. [19:17] Buildings first. [19:17] Buildings make you think 20 in a building. [19:21] What a question. [19:23] I guess I did, but that's okay. [19:33] It's fine with anybody in the gift. [19:41] Any other comments? [19:43] Yeah, two, two comments. [19:45] On page 11, total units in occupancy. [19:49] It states that overall vacancy is largely driven by seasonal units. [19:53] I would buy, like, up the action is that women's economic activity in the town, and [20:01] at wonder if they could tie that somehow to set a limiting factor. [20:14] When you say limiting factor, limiting factor to walk? [20:18] Well, when the population shrinks for the winter, then there's less economic activity to [20:24] town. [20:24] But they're only basing this on population of 10,000. [20:29] They're not basing it on summer population. [20:34] Right. [20:35] But yeah, I mean, it's showing that changes. [20:42] But what I'm saying is if the town was able to maintain the economic activity, [20:49] that the full population produces during the summer, [20:53] So, when you have the least amount of vacancies, if that was maintained throughout a full [20:58] 12 months, there would be better economic activity for the town than having all these [21:04] unused resources sit on the sidelines for six, eight, ten months. [21:13] I think when there's Chris and I had a conversation about this one, when we're going all this [21:18] afternoon, I think when you're looking at seasonal vacancy, a lot of it can be attributed [21:24] into the fact that so many houses now don't get used in the bunch of them, they're only used [21:31] in the summer. [21:35] There's not available today. [21:40] Right. [21:40] And that's kind of exactly my point. [21:42] Right. [21:42] And then there, there's no one in the restaurant, there's no one in Main Street, there are there's [21:47] less, maybe I don't know what, but there's one there's one. [21:50] Of course, you saw people come from a town, and all that's considered, but I guess that's [21:55] kind of my question. [21:56] is there a way to quantify how much the vacancies reduce the economic activity of the town? [22:07] I don't know if it's like, I'm curious, I was, the seasonal set was introduced here, like [22:10] to support animals. [22:11] That's what economic plan does that reduce the number of available units we had in the [22:16] years? [22:18] It's getting, like, understanding that more was, like, questioning them. [22:21] Yeah. [22:22] Yeah. [22:23] I don't see them, I'll make it to this 300, but season always, I mean, we have like a thousand houses out there that could be people [22:31] Is there only been used for three months? [22:34] I think we should be putting kids in the school. [22:36] Yeah, absolutely. [22:37] Well, I also think they need to clarify there's houses that are seasonal because they can't be converted [22:42] to be around. They would be clarified that these are year-round homes. [22:47] Is that what they're talking about that are seasonal and occupied? [22:50] I'm assuming that. [22:51] But we also have seasonal homes that have to remain seasonal or could be converted. [22:56] So I think they need to clean that up. [22:58] one, yep, yes, especially in our town, they've been initially [23:03] what seasonal means of how they're kind of right. [23:06] Yeah, number of homes are rented. [23:08] Look at what they call an academic. [23:11] Identifying rent talks. [23:12] And is that even captured in this? [23:15] Because we all know there's a number of those that happen. [23:17] That will pump up a number that would be part of that. [23:21] And the other part that I didn't see anything there was, [23:24] did they take into consideration anything on any use? [23:27] It's been sort of that for over the last number of years. [23:31] Well, I think when you look at housing type, [23:34] they do talk about that because they talk about [23:40] it being detached housing. [23:45] And I think some of the new housing, [23:51] about the 63 units that were built. [23:59] What was the tax? [24:03] And maybe you should be on the same integrity as family. [24:06] I think they need to clarify that if you have a tattoo detached to an ADU, is it's a true [24:13] family? [24:15] Yeah, how do they classify? [24:17] Yeah. [24:17] I would show up in the sun right here today. [24:20] We have that as a we have a lot of education for them. [24:23] I think Mark to your point about, [24:29] I think you'll see some of that in the decline in 2014 to [24:36] 2019 when what can go, if we said it, if then it's too, it's prison again. I think it was [24:42] a decline at some point, but people not doing the academic that's back again. [24:47] Yeah, we don't know how many academic friends you know, but from what I'm hearing more [24:52] of that, you know, rentals, or rentals, get partifying them. It is very hard to find them. [24:58] And it's usually done here. I also suspect that the cost of the houses now, some people [25:06] or not, and they just sold the houses, and you know, they're no longer academic, and they cashed out. [25:14] Yeah, yeah, no, there's year-round houses, and yeah. [25:16] Especially, it's what I don't know, too, yeah. [25:18] Not French, isn't it? [25:20] Oh, the question. [25:22] Where would year-round houses that are people's second colleagues, Hamilton, [25:29] So that the seasonal vacancy, because I'm a lot of the efforts that we think of, but they have [25:39] a viable year-round folks that are just sitting there, which is so sad. [25:45] Yes, but that's what we're considering seasonal vacancy. [25:47] Okay. [25:48] So not just the college has been all. [25:50] Any big in-house, even, kind of, this end? [25:53] We say college, do you mean a college that can't be used here? [25:57] Right. [26:00] That's why we're looking for clarification to what they mean by a seasonal vacancy because we know we don't have that many [26:10] Seasonal truly seasonal codes of them. I think it's it's fractional. I don't remember the last thing. It's definitely diminished. Yeah, it's all different. I mean, it kind of [26:22] a water company turned off. Yeah. No, I changed it now. So. Yeah. So it goes through the [26:28] selectments office and that's a whole other issue because they don't shut the water off. So [26:34] someone could go through and get the water turned on and they're saving the house and buy away [26:39] the work. So that's a whole other thing to do with it. I said for us to get day like the day it's [26:46] on the slide. I got up to see that like almost mashed up before it's on like six. The house will [26:51] I've just so you can see them on like similar chart for them and like next to them like [26:56] you know if we have this. So you like to see just to kind of you know if we have you [27:01] 1800 to people households we don't have 1800 to you know we're gonna do better my house at [27:08] every people in the wrong size. That's how's the unit size yeah yeah well that's another thing [27:13] that person I were talking about because you see an increase in the number four bit of units [27:19] And we know people don't have large household sciences. [27:24] But I think you're seeing a larger number of people, [27:28] where two people are working from homes, [27:30] and now they need two offices, [27:32] then it made it office space. [27:34] Yeah. So now they're using two of those bedrooms as offices. [27:38] So yeah, that's a good question. [27:40] Stan, you see, yeah. [27:41] Yeah, yeah. [27:42] And I guess the same thing on the 29th, [27:43] team data, too. But maybe like lost 300 and four better bones in 2019, but then got five [27:50] hundred more. Yeah, right. So, same like just, where's the data coming from and being kind [27:55] of the same? Yeah, just, it is a fascinating shift in the home unit size. And you see that. [28:01] Well, guess if this is a survey, is it just depend on who they're mailing it to? Yes, [28:04] bonds as well. So, yeah, this is based on census data. Okay. Yeah, they actually looking [28:08] at like the house or they're asking a person who lives at a house. Like, what is your house? [28:12] You know how you fill out the census data or how do you answer the census data yet? [28:18] People [28:20] They're that's right [28:23] I know similar question about the housing unit type where you have this one that shows all the [28:29] Ambassador of single units. Yeah, and then of course you talked earlier about the demographics shifting [28:35] They're taking the reading with the, [28:39] if you just want me to show a tell me the thing, [28:41] and that is good, and so it strikes me [28:48] that this inventory of unit types doesn't serve [28:53] a demographic that's shifting to older couples [28:57] for the most part, or even singles, right? [29:00] Well, true. [29:02] But if you look at some of the data, older people are living in larger homes, they're not moving it this small at all. [29:14] So it's hard to see that shift to a smaller one bedroom or two bedroom home. [29:20] They're not necessary. [29:21] This is just like a view to get four bedroom house and a one bedroom apartment, but right now there's one right on this. [29:27] Yes, well, I think it's fascinating because in 2014, it doesn't really show much and then in [29:34] 2019, we have 0.7% of our mobile homes and then in 2024, they all disappeared right, so I guess they [29:42] got hitched up and taken out a tap. I guess the thing too is what are they considering their mobile [29:47] home. Is it a manufacturer? That's the other thing. And so we should ask them why that fell off. [29:52] Right. [29:53] Right. [29:53] They just did not have that night. [29:54] They didn't serve anyone. [29:56] That night too. [29:56] That could be all a guarantee. [29:59] Okay. [29:59] It is. [30:00] And so just on the United States, I'm interested if we could provide us with some type of community benchmark [30:08] or the demographic that we have, what should the unit housing stock look like? What would be best practices [30:17] for matching this huge demographic with housing unit types? I think right now they're just asking us to, [30:27] this is what they compiled and they're asking us at this point just to say, does this make sense to you? [30:32] Yeah, look for some. So we're gonna have more workshops to visit, this is our first one too. [30:38] I think it's more getting an understanding of what they mean by you and how about... [30:42] Yeah, I mean, it's sitting on the lands that's leaves. [30:46] Or it's made of that, right? [30:48] Because it is a bondwales, does it both put the amount of... [30:51] Or that's all. [30:53] A metal frame underneath it. [30:55] I think you have to move on. Yeah. I don't think you're pushing. [30:59] Thank you, Young. You have to feel it. It's funny. I can't climb. [31:05] Let's talk about jobs and workforce. Let's talk a little bit to Dennis and point about economics. [31:14] So looking total jobs, the jobs, the wages are resident workforce in our non-resident workforce, [31:20] And this will sort of key as in this maybe some of the housing we might need to look at right here. [31:28] So total jobs, the total jobs remain stable over the last decade, shifting only slightly. [31:36] It's a 3% decline. [31:39] Resident workers increase steadily from 2014 to 2023 with the most notable drop occurring after 2019. [31:48] And then Olsaber, I think everyone understands [31:53] we realize heavily on in-commuters, [31:56] but 84% of its workforce living outside of town. [32:02] You look at the industry, the top five industry, [32:05] the Olsaber, should be of no surprise, retail trade, [32:09] accommodation food service, health care and social assistance, [32:13] educational services, professional science, [32:16] as a contact with services. [32:18] I don't know why it doesn't say real estate, [32:20] accommodation and food services. [32:22] It has front of the sub-state facility, [32:24] rising from 847 jobs in 2014 to 1423 and 2023, [32:32] or sets looking at our increased reliance [32:34] centers of hospitality and retail trade remains, [32:37] alternative to large employer, [32:40] consistently supporting 113,100 jobs. [32:44] The age of our workforce, the 55 plus group, [32:48] grows steadily in local jobs, very many high, [32:51] among the resident workers, [32:53] indicating that the light retirement, [32:56] and I would also say the cost of living, [32:58] rising dependency on the labor force. [33:01] The 30-to-54 group remains the largest group, [33:05] but it's declining steadily among both residents and job holders, [33:08] suggesting a thinner-middle generation, [33:10] and a limited replenishment of middle-prear talent. [33:15] And then age is 29 and under have declined [33:17] to both categories, indicating fewer young adults living [33:20] in old savor and few younger workers [33:23] participating in old savor based jobs. [33:26] This is the people who live in old savor [33:28] and not people who work in old savor. [33:30] I don't know. [33:30] I don't know. [33:30] I don't know. [33:31] I don't know. [33:31] I don't know. [33:39] I don't know. [33:40] briefly is if you work on a town, is that mean your paycheck comes from out of town, but you're [33:47] sitting in your bedroom and old saver. Yeah, working for him. What does that mean? You may [33:53] work in old saver every day, but you're just not in an office and your employer be. [33:58] Well, I was going to, like, slide 22. I think that's, like, the job. It's just a little [34:02] saver, but it's 23. These are people who live in old saver. [34:09] These are the people I live [34:10] earnings, both those saber jobs, and resident of North Dakota is steady drop in the [34:14] workers earning 1250 or less, indicating fewer, very low bank roll, upper wage, but at [34:23] a whole saber president's whole more high earning jobs, the number of high earning jobs [34:27] will appear in the town itself, that per se those of the people are leaving town, like the [34:33] paycheck rather than working in town itself, whether they're actually leaving town if you go [34:38] a little wage jobs at Old Saver for shrinking faster than middle wage residents. [34:44] Suggesting that big wage opportunities locally are declining and residents may be [34:48] going to be up into higher-roading growth elsewhere. [34:53] So the meters shed, and I don't know why they use the root shed, the ruins. [34:57] The root shed is a computer shed, and the top residential locations for Old Saver [35:04] workers is on saver and London, Norwich, and then in 2023 middle town. This is where the workers [35:11] come from. Yes, this is where the workers come from. So even years when old saver grants first, [35:15] it's workers make a holding 3% of the total showing that the town depends on income to meters of [35:21] rather than local residents, the staff, the shops, and despite small changes in order, the same [35:27] towns compare repeatedly in the top three, which is kind of a big surprise to anyone. [35:35] And then [35:36] for the old to have a workforce, the old to have a president's primary work outside of town with over 80% of residents employed elsewhere. [35:46] And only a small share of residents work locally. [35:49] And that number is declining. [35:51] It's well under a thousand now. [35:55] And then workforce jobs by industry manufacturers, [35:58] mainly factoring is slowly declining. [36:00] have earned a decade rise [36:09] in industry, [36:11] consistent play, or workers than any other sector [36:14] that remains the strongest anchor of town. [36:17] So the top five are healthcare, [36:20] education, retail, manufacturing, and accommodation. [36:28] Outwork destinations for old-savered residents, [36:31] consistently are old-savered, [36:33] new haven and hard for it. [36:35] And while old-savered remains the single largest [36:37] work location, the combined full of new haven, [36:40] market demonstrates that residents rely heavily on large employment hopes outside of the [36:45] town. This reinforces all the savings, the role as a residential community would [36:50] strong outbound communities, rather than this adds to our area median income, the [36:59] why it's growing significantly since 2014-2023, indicating overall wrong income growth in the region. [37:09] In rising AMI's thresholds to desk, increasing cost of living pressures, as some can [37:16] levels required to qualify for affordability categories, have shifted upward for time. [37:24] Don't summary, all the savings down base is stable, but increasingly reliant on people. [37:30] The work force is aging and gradually shifting towards higher earnings jobs, but city growth in workers [37:37] earning more than $3,233 per month, with a long term decline to jump to workers. Local employment [37:46] is anchored in the service sector in the streets, especially health care retail and food servants. [37:51] With retail remaining are just the most stable. And residents increasingly work outside of old saver. [37:57] We're the only 10% of the residents were forced to employ in town in 2023, which [38:03] you're like, why aren't I continuing? [38:09] Questions, comments about what we just talked about regarding jobs and workforce? [38:17] I think on the side point of the community, I'm going to go on and get back. [38:22] I was the most of our workers coming in, but it's like the percentage of them being out [38:26] of the population. [38:26] 6% of them in daily, like 90% of workers are now in comfortable, not these three places. [38:32] Yes. Oh, yeah. [38:33] Which might mean it's more or less to three or four percent as they call it. [38:36] Just one. [38:37] Or go on workers like that and hold even one ten. [38:39] One ten. [38:40] Yeah. [38:41] That was my point. [38:41] I was curious how far away the people held, like what have they, you know, [38:45] Bob, they're done the graphics. [38:47] You know, and go totally talking to some of the weight staff and [38:51] bartenders and they're coming from as far as [38:53] are for farming and spring build. [38:56] You hate him for these jobs, but they're going to be well. [39:01] Hey, Nick. [39:02] Yes. [39:03] Yeah, I thought I saw a few slides back that health care is like the biggest sector, [39:09] but then on slide 30, you said retail trade is the highest sector. [39:15] So yeah, I know. [39:18] We got to talk to them about that. [39:20] this. All right. So Joanne is going to have had put together the summary. So slide, [39:26] I mean, we're going to start. I'll get those for Joanne. I know he's talking about. [39:31] Yeah, a slide 30 on retail trade and it was before that for the medical. [39:40] And the only other comment, maybe it's later in the darkest, but is a worth characterizing [39:46] like how many commute via the train, is that gatherable data? [39:59] I read it in square elsewhere, most of our workers live elsewhere, it's like primed [40:03] for some kind of commuting solution that doesn't involve everybody driving the cars in that [40:08] town every time. [40:09] Kind of this like traffic. [40:11] Yeah, it might be beyond the housing issue, but we do talk about transit oriented [40:17] districts. [40:18] So [40:21] maybe here's something like the household [40:23] to size data, the puning and work of the guy that you two [40:26] and three family, what ages aren't there. [40:29] Yeah, I mean, I mean, I may speak a little family [40:32] that are leaving our town and be a little somewhere else [40:34] where they come back to work anyway, right? [40:48] It needs some work, needs some children, [40:51] so many of them. [40:52] It's like surprisingly different from some of the stuff [40:55] we've seen in years past, yes, [40:56] and one of the different things [40:57] of the patients. [41:00] Yes. [41:02] Transurfing study was a bit of bad [41:04] to do it back and back. [41:05] It was a very problem that's not for a meal. [41:07] I feel the struggle. [41:08] It needs to be figured out. [41:10] I don't know what the problem is. [41:13] It's. [41:13] That's why we're. [41:15] Using to be helpful for a little. [41:18] Clarification on how to be. [41:19] It was collected. [41:22] It's. [41:22] If that was one of the things they asked, [41:24] it seems like we're kind of bouncing from. [41:25] So we're Susan, maybe we're using local terms for seasonal or year-round or units, a little bit more. [41:35] Well, some of us, like, is that we set it a survey to a resident ask them questions versus, like, did we get pulled from actual, you know, [41:42] they do you have, for instance, basically the actual number of houses we have, or something. [41:46] So this is one of a series of, so this is general information that they put together. [41:54] And they're looking to see, okay, is this what you're seeing, you know, these trans, what are you seeing here, you know, that we're going to get into the housing needs assessment. [42:10] But we're trying to kind of do this baseline of what's going, so this is a way for us to look at, okay, you know, obviously there's some things we believe there's we don't understand what 20 plus units is we don't understand it. [42:24] seasonal season alone in some of the even animals about. So this is for us to get local context or, you know, what happened at the moment. [42:33] So this is the oversight was that 10 people can't think, you know, similar and they moved on or are they talking about maybe your factured homes when they sing well. [42:45] It's a good consistency and like there's a like we thought in units or rooms or bedrooms because they are looking at it at the regional thing. So they're trying to make it all fit. [42:54] And they just need to share with us what they're defining, so we can make our data fit into that in our organic planning. [43:06] So, so right now the phase one we're going through, you know, [43:09] established, you can share understanding of regional and municipal housing. [43:14] They're going to update the data, integrate statutory requirements, and then the regional data trends. [43:22] Okay, that's I think what we just got now working her role is to review trends in confirmed understanding, identifying missing context or major data gaps, which I think we've noted out, sort of things that have to be revisited and then the next thing I believe will be a similar workshop for us. [43:44] It will save Earth is to read how housing need is calculated for our town and the region and [43:51] will be another working group at that time to participate in a workshop. [43:56] There's a segment with the enchilai. Obviously we're probably looking at December. [44:00] If you're supposed to be doing this in June, but you never know. [44:05] I do have to say the region to get a lot of candid to them. The last session and a lot of deadlines and a lot [44:11] things that we're not clear, so they are moving along, but I think the timeline may be [44:19] sketched out. This is regional, but I'm sure it's probably not available, but how do we [44:26] compare the surrounding pounds? So is there a pattern in the other towns that is we can [44:33] in saver, or is there a pattern that shows saver stronger than any other towns? Because one of the [44:42] any type of affordable housing and seek to post a real estate. And I think that that [44:48] in terms of the people coming in to work, the town I would love to live in town, but they can't afford them. [44:54] And buy in town. So how did that weigh into that process, too? [45:00] I think we're just going to involve and look at it. I mean, it's interesting because our region includes [45:05] Vittal Town and either so many differences between larger towns and in our town. So many similarities with some of our neighbors, [45:15] but we're kind of more of an regional hub to compare to Chester G. Brewer. So I think we continue to do this. [45:28] information that we share, and then we'll have several more of these working group discussions. [45:35] And I think it's kind of valuable to have it with Bill's planning and zoning. [45:40] I mean, if we get to the point, [45:42] we do implement the plan and the zoning commission, obviously, is going to have a major role in adopting [45:49] regulation. So I think the more we can try to meet together, not that we need any extra [45:56] but I know mid-Falms extremities, but try to put me in place together and stay on the same page as much as we can. [46:08] I just dropped. [46:09] Thank you. [46:10] Thank you. [46:11] Thank you. [46:12] I guess we did well started off, so I guess the motion is to adjourn at six. [46:17] That's her adjourned at six or at the seven.