1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,280 We have a large audience today. Nice to see you. Uh this is the Tuesday, April 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:14,400 21st and the finance committee meeting the city of Oldtown. And the first thing 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,920 is to call to order, which I have done in approval of the minutes for March 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,199 16th. >> I make a motion to approve the minutes 5 00:00:19,439 --> 00:00:25,760 for March 16th, July 6. >> Second. 6 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:31,119 » That's quick. >> All in favor? 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,119 So moved. 8 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:40,960 Danielle Ruby, finance director will update committee on the March 2026 9 00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:44,559 financials and the financials are attached. 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Before I start, do you have any questions on the financials? 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Any questions? I don't have any. 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,920 » I don't have any at this time. >> That's 13 00:00:58,079 --> 00:01:02,879 perfect. So, uh, going down through, I'll make it quick just in, uh, effort 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:08,000 of time because we have a budget discussion, uh, right after this. Uh, 15 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:13,520 we're at the 75% mark 9 months into our fiscal year. So, anything above or below 16 00:01:10,479 --> 00:01:17,280 that, 75% on on revenue and expenses is, you know, good or bad, uh, depending 17 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,840 what we're at. There was nothing significant in the month of March that 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:27,280 stood out uh, as far as things that we needed to do. Going through the month, I 19 00:01:25,119 --> 00:01:31,840 realized I hadn't build the pollution for our services. We build them a set uh 20 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:36,280 percentage every month in a March. So that you'll see in April coming through 21 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:46,399 the tree growth uh that was uh money you'll see a negative 21,500 22 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:49,600 that was acred into June and when I went down through I saw that we had received 23 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:53,520 it back in October and forgot to reverse that out. So that 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:57,040 » can you say where where that is please? So following down 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:02,200 » truth uh page one, it's the fourth one up from the bottom. 26 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,200 » Thank you. 27 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,879 » Okay. >> Any questions on general revenue? 28 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:13,399 » I do have one question. The general assistance reimbursement. 29 00:02:10,399 --> 00:02:13,399 » Yes. 30 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:21,920 » Yes. So the the general assistance reimbursement that is um we get 70% from 31 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:26,800 the state of expenses. So you'll see on the expense side, the general assistance 32 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:30,599 uh expenses are higher. So the revenue is higher as well. 33 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:45,040 Moving on to expenses as I said uh within that um 75% above or below one of 34 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:50,080 the so the general assistance if you look on the under the central services 35 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:54,959 the advertising and outreach that one is overexpended by 138%. So that's where 36 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:59,840 the general assistance you'll see um we've overexpanded but we've been 37 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:03,280 reimbursed from the state buyout. Again, there was nothing significant in 38 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,280 the month. I you know, we've been tried to right along. Nothing significant um 39 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:15,400 that we've been reporting on for the prior eight months. 40 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,400 So, any questions on the expenditures? 41 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:30,560 » Yep. Moving on to the balance sheet. Again, this just shows uh where we're at 42 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:35,200 with collecting our receivables, where we're paying our bills. Uh we're doing, 43 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,720 you know, very well on uh taxes receivable for the current year. We're 44 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:44,560 down to um a million dollars of uncollected as of um March 31st. We're 45 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:50,080 going to get ready to put uh send out 30-day notices in May, and we'll have 46 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:54,879 leans in June. So, between now and then, uh we're going to collect a lot more 47 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:58,480 than that. So, that's reassuring. Again, the negatives on the liability side, 48 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:03,840 that's just a prepaid uh you know, the health insurance is negative 101 that we 49 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:06,720 just prepaid for the month of April. Any questions on the general balance 50 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,280 sheet? >> Are we about on track as normal for the 51 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:17,359 taxes? >> Yes. Yes. We ran a a report uh last 52 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:21,440 Thursday and I think we had like 336 unpaid taxes and again from there we've 53 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:25,120 had a lot of people that come in and pay. A lot of them are the timing of the 54 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,240 interest, like if they do a late payment either in September or March, they'll 55 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:32,960 have a little bit of interest. And we sent out some reminders a week ago. So, 56 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:40,000 some of those will be coming in as well. Do you get a lot of people pay only for 57 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,400 uh uh September and then March or do do you get a lot of people that pay one 58 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,000 lump sum? >> Yes. Yep. Some people pay it all in 59 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:52,880 September. Some pay will pay it all in March. Some people pay it 18 months from 60 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:57,680 now. So if they if they pay it in in uh say September instead of uh March is 61 00:04:55,919 --> 00:05:01,919 there is an interest on that? >> No, because they're paying it's all due 62 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:06,479 in September. It's just we have two installments to pay it. So they don't 63 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,120 pay any interest if they pay early, nor do they we don't give them interest if 64 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:14,479 they pay early. >> Oh, all right. 65 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:19,280 Thank you. >> Uh moving on to pollution. Um, again, 66 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:23,680 nothing significant. They're right on track as far as their revenues, um, and 67 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:28,880 their expenses. They're they're doing very well at managing their expenses to 68 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:33,600 keep their cost down. So, that's nice to see. 69 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,759 Any questions on the pollution revenue or expenses, 70 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,720 and their balance sheet, again, they're doing very well on their balance sheet. 71 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,520 uh you know, we have some cash in the savings account, which is good because 72 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:52,400 as the bills are going to start coming in for the bridge, we're going to try to 73 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:58,039 pay them uh with cash instead of taking a loan out for them as they trickle 74 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,039 through over the next couple years. 75 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,800 » Moving on. >> Moving on. Uh next will be the update on 76 00:06:13,919 --> 00:06:21,919 uh fiscal year 2025 2026 budget. 77 00:06:19,919 --> 00:06:26,479 » Before that we have a dump truck. >> Yeah, we have a 78 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:30,240 » Oh, sorry for that. Danielle again, finance director will update the 79 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,160 committee on March 26th. No, I already did that. 80 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,759 » Discussion on the bid. >> Oh, 81 00:06:33,919 --> 00:06:37,600 I did discussion. 82 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:44,240 » She's excited to get to the budget. Here's the dump body on the 2019 83 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:49,360 6x410 wheeler dump truck for the public works 84 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:55,960 department. The body sustained damage from a hydraulic line failure in 85 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,960 February of 2025. 86 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:05,440 So on this uh dump body we had, as it says, you know, we had a a hydraulic 87 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:09,360 failure in February 2025. Uh we thought it was something that we could fix. So, 88 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:15,199 our mechanic on staff was able to fix it, but it was a temporary fix and now 89 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:19,199 the body is twisted. And so, we've tried to go through the insuranceances to get 90 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:23,199 um you know, submit the incident report and get them to pay it. But because it's 91 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:26,639 a mechanical failure, um it's not anything that's covered by the 92 00:07:24,479 --> 00:07:31,599 insuranceances. So, now at this time, it's cheaper for us to replace the bed 93 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,599 itself as opposed to get a brand new truck. 94 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:43,759 So, are we going to uh discuss this and bring it forward to the committee uh 95 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,319 meeting or our next meeting? >> Yes. 96 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,000 » Yeah. Because we'll get it on to the next council meeting for the first one 97 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:54,000 in May. >> Go for it. 98 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:58,479 » Uh Steve, did uh who built that truck originally for us? 99 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:05,280 » Got a Viking. >> Do you have a preference on which one of 100 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:11,039 these two? Well, like Ally, yeah, it's it's an MG body. We used to run them 101 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:17,199 quite quite a bit back in the in through the '9s and early 2000 with pretty good 102 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:22,160 success. I really I really don't want to throw it on the Viking body on it. And 103 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:27,520 the other one is it's the Fairfield body is quite a bit more. 104 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:32,479 » So, a lot more. I mean, >> so you prefer the Allied equipment body 105 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:36,000 on it? Yeah, I do. >> Okay, excellent. That's the least 106 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,479 expensive one, too. >> 125 bucks. 107 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,279 » The one that's so much more expensive. Is it for all the same things or is 108 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:48,160 there something additional? >> Um, 109 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:52,800 it's got AR AR grade steel in it. Um, it just has better wear properties. But if 110 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:58,240 if we were like a construction outfit hauling with that every day and having 111 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:03,440 material dump it in and out of it then but with what we do and what it's used 112 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:08,560 for. I mean we've never had any trouble with them with those other corn style 113 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:13,120 bodies. It's >> Sure. Thank you. 114 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:17,279 » I make a motion we move to the full council to 115 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:22,160 spend $49,550 allied equipment to increase the body. 116 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:26,120 I'll second that motion. >> Made a motion to 117 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:32,680 And we're looking at the Allied one that is for $49,550. 118 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:37,519 » I I do have a question, but Danielle, what account will that money come out 119 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:41,519 of? >> Uh we have a heavy equipment reserve 120 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:45,880 account that will come out of that. >> I didn't think it ought to come out of 121 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,880 their operating. 122 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Any other questions? Discussion move. Okay. So, the motion is to move this on 123 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:58,600 to favor to the next next 124 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:08,519 meeting that's held in May first of May. All those in favor? So, moved. 125 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:23,040 Danielle, you're still sitting at the spot where you're 126 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:30,640 » waiting for the next budget. >> Waiting for the next budget. 127 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:35,920 » Now I can hear update on the FY 2025 2026 budget. 128 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:41,279 » I think Bill is excited to talk about that. 129 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:45,200 » I can tell it. Go for it. 130 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,959 » Um, looking at the information you have here, just to go down through, um, you 131 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:52,959 obviously have a lot of detail in the back, but you got a you got a budget 132 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:58,160 summary page here, onepage budget summary. Um, if you look at that, uh, 133 00:10:56,399 --> 00:11:04,720 just to run down through the budget notes, um, just so we're all thinking 134 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:11,120 about this in in the same way. um wages that have been budgeted in this budget. 135 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Uh it's 3% um for non-un employees. We're looking uh again working on a 136 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:20,160 salary survey uh just to check and see where we're at in the market. Last one 137 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:25,279 we did was in 2022. Um fire union employees are in here uh 138 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:33,760 through their contract three and a half plus uh two 2% step increases. Uh PD's 139 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:38,240 in at one with 2% step increases. um health and dental, we have an 8% 140 00:11:35,839 --> 00:11:44,320 placeholder um on current rates. We're working on um different uh plan options 141 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:50,079 here. Um we'll do a presentation 142 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:56,480 um coming up in about two weeks uh to run over with the employees to look at 143 00:11:51,839 --> 00:12:02,079 that. Um our main pers uh union 3 plan went from 11.4 to 11.5 and non-union the 144 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:08,560 plan had no change. just stayed at 9% this year. 145 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Um on the expense side, uh debt service increased uh by about $57,000 on our 146 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:19,200 bond schedule. Um biggest part of that was our global secure building that we 147 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:24,880 built. Um and the clerk under other contractual um you'll see $2,600 in 148 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:30,240 there for anticipated ordinance changes. um software decrease $3,700 149 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,560 and miscellaneous expenses decreased $26. 150 00:12:31,839 --> 00:12:39,600 Um underneath my part of the budget, audit fees, there was an increase this 151 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:46,320 year coming up uh $5,000. Um our IT services are going to go down 152 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:51,360 15,000 on server upgrades. Uh and Juniper Ridge Landfill on our impact 153 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:56,880 fee. That's that's built into that host community u agreement. So that changes 154 00:12:54,639 --> 00:13:03,519 basically on a yearly basis. So it went up about $10,000 this year. 155 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:07,920 Um airport, you'll see in there uh on expense changes, janitorial supplies 156 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:14,000 increased around $1,400, which really reflects the work and the amount of uh 157 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:17,279 supplies that they've been using. Um there's a decrease in there under their 158 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:22,880 capital outlay on the hanger reserve side. It was down about $28,000, but 159 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:27,760 that's always project specific on how much comes out of the hanger reserve. 160 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:33,440 So, not as not as big a projects this year. So, that's a that's a decrease. 161 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:41,600 Um, you'll see in the PD uh information, there's a K9 cost in there, $5,000 162 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:48,320 um on an expense line. Um public works, uh there was an increase um in the sand 163 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:52,000 gravel loom. Um that's up about $32,000. Um as Steve reported out earlier this 164 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:55,920 year, first time he's seen the back wall in the sand shed for I can't remember 165 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,240 exactly how many years, but it's been a long time. So 166 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:04,639 » since 2000 >> y 167 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:09,120 » um in parks um another request from the public works director is he did not want 168 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:13,920 he didn't want to see the uh the sewer cost in his budget anymore. We moved it 169 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:17,120 to parks where the uh comfort station >> really didn't do anything except we did 170 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:21,839 move it over there because it does kind of make sense for that being there. 171 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:27,920 » Um revenue changes that you'll see in this 172 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:34,160 year's budget. Um the Oldtown U housing payment L taxes, there's a decrease in 173 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:39,360 there of $12,000. Um they're they're changing their housing designation. Um 174 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:45,199 so that's like half that's like a half a year. So, it' be the same thing again 175 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:50,240 for next year. Um, that that pilot's going to decrease. Uh, again, I just 176 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:55,680 talked about that Juniper Ridge landfill impact fees. Uh, it's contractual 177 00:14:52,480 --> 00:15:01,120 increase that's in there. Um, treasure revenue. Uh, we adjusted what, um, 178 00:14:58,959 --> 00:15:04,880 finance charges out for wastewater treatment services because they handle 179 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:09,600 all the billings and accounts payable and receivable for them. 180 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:15,519 um phone reimbursement. There's a decrease of almost $1,700 pool 181 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:21,360 and rec center contract changes. Um we have not put this in the budget 182 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:25,199 and we don't do this every year. So typically we have a fund balance 183 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:30,800 transfer. We had $400,000 in there last year. We don't put that in there without 184 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:36,000 coming back and requesting it. So that's that's not shown in these numbers. 185 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Um, TIFF revenue, there's a decrease of $192,000. 186 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:48,480 Uh, that's final impact from mill closure. Our homestead's up $32,000. 187 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:51,680 Um, Betty is down. Um, part of that is a mill. We've also had some equipment 188 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,079 changes in some of our bigger construction companies. So, that'll 189 00:15:53,920 --> 00:16:02,240 definitely have an increase a decrease on that. Uh, main revenue sharing's down 190 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:07,680 $184,000. Uh we have a increase in highway block 191 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:13,839 grant fund of 157,000. Um solar reimbursements going to be up 192 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:17,279 $56,000. That's a new uh tax that we're going to be able to collect on solar 193 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:22,880 farms. That hasn't been there legislatively in the past. Um our EMS 194 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:27,199 services, uh we got an insurance rate increase, so that's going to go up about 195 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:32,639 $32,000. lease parking permits actually went down 196 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:35,839 because we changed the $250 to $25. You remember we did that. So that's down 197 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:40,959 $2,400. Um there's an increase in the school 198 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:46,399 resource officer of $3,300. Um tip fees, uh we're getting a decrease 199 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:51,600 on that. Waste management started taking their trash over to Hamon commercial 200 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:55,680 stuff from Oldtown, so we don't get that revenue anymore. 201 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Um, and I mentioned that before on the airport hang reserve. That decrease is 202 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:04,240 all project specific. That's that's in there. And economic development, you'll 203 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,520 see an increase in there due to the global secure shipping uh lease on their 204 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:16,880 rent payment that they make. Um, when you put all this together 205 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:22,240 and you look uh at where this sits on that summary page 206 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:27,120 of of all the departments, a one-page summary page here. Um, when we started 207 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:32,160 out a couple meetings ago, we were up around $520,000 208 00:17:29,919 --> 00:17:40,559 increase in the budget. We're down now to $258,000, which is a 1.5 uh% 209 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:44,000 increase. Um the biggest issue that we have in here is not on the expense side 210 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:48,799 of the budget, it's on the revenue side of the budget because we've lost a lot 211 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:55,760 of revenue. Um it uh so when you roll those numbers 212 00:17:51,679 --> 00:18:01,600 through, I had Danielle put together our yearly estimated tax rate calculator. 213 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:06,000 That number right now would be around 8%. Again, that doesn't include like a 214 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,400 fund balance transfer in there, which would pretty much cut that number in 215 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,200 half, but we don't have that in there because we haven't come back and asked 216 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:18,320 for it. Don't know what you folks want to do. So, just rolling the numbers all 217 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:23,799 forward based on what you have right now. That's what that that's what that 218 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,799 number would look like. 219 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:29,640 And I know this is throwing a lot of stuff at you. 220 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:37,360 » Oh, I'm sorry. >> You're all right. Uh, I just got a 221 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:41,600 question about the disconnect between the 1 1.54% 222 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:45,280 projected increase in total city operations, but we're looking at an 8% 223 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,240 increase in the mill rate. Where is that? 224 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:55,039 » Revenue revenue being down. So, revenue is down like almost 1.2 million. 225 00:18:52,400 --> 00:19:00,240 uh 5,000 new expense line. I thought that was being taken care of on the 226 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:03,600 police, the K9 cost. Is that >> with the grant? 227 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:08,400 » With the grant. So, it's just going to go from one to the other. Okay. That's 228 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:13,640 three years, correct? >> Yes. 229 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,640 » Thank you, 230 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:24,320 » Danielle. Are there any revenues uh budget compared to actual that we're 231 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:29,600 expecting not to collect in full like by the end of the budget cycle? 232 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,400 » No, the biggest one was the rec center which we took care of that earlier. So, 233 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,240 um I don't foresee anything not being collected. 234 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:39,240 » Great. Thank you. >> First, 235 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,880 » so Bill, you talk about the fund balance. 236 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,559 » There's not an ask yet. But would there be a projective ask 237 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,320 depending on how where we want to be at? Correct. Is that what you're saying? 238 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:55,200 » Y. >> So if we technically did the 407, that 239 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,039 would drop that down to a 4% increase roughly 240 00:19:55,679 --> 00:20:01,360 » like 4.3 in that area. >> Yep. 241 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,840 » I'm not looking at Danielle because I know she doesn't like that question. 242 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,200 » Yeah. >> I wouldn't look at her. 243 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,919 » Um because last year was 400,000 as well. 244 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,039 » 407. >> 407 as well. 245 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,640 » Can Can we handle that? Can we handle that again this year? 246 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:22,640 » Taking it up. >> Can we handle more? 247 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:27,360 » Because the balance is currently 6.2, right? 248 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:30,960 » Uh yes. But there the 6.2 there's money in there that's committed and 249 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:34,679 restricted. So we would we go with like 4.2 4.5. 250 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:40,440 » I think we should plan going forward for me to plan on 400,000. 251 00:20:41,679 --> 00:20:47,919 I agree with that balance. >> I don't start there and and see where it 252 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:51,280 ends up by the end. >> You know, Bill, you talking about 253 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:54,799 possibly a decrease with insurance costs. 254 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:57,919 » Yep. That's And that's not reflected any reflected yet. That was my question 255 00:20:56,159 --> 00:21:00,559 either. So, but that's what you said roughly 70 maybe. 256 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,400 » Could be around 70. >> Could be around 70. 257 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,000 » Still not a huge debt. So, I agree with you Dave too. I mean, I know 258 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,799 historically for several years we didn't touch it and last year we had to touch 259 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,960 it. >> And I know it's not your favorite thing 260 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,679 either, ma'am. >> Right. 261 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:20,400 » The understanding is it's there for if something historic like catastrophic 262 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:26,320 happens and that type of stuff. But >> listening to the neighbors, the 263 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:30,960 residents, that type of stuff, too. Um, I really think that it's a it's a option 264 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:36,080 we need to really. Bill, are there things uh we had talked 265 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:42,000 at one time about uh maybe the trash pickup being less cost to the city? 266 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:48,159 » Are there things we could look at like that that would benefit the taxpayers, 267 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:52,640 not necessarily in monetary, but in a benefit? Is that still in discussion 268 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:57,840 stages or is that off the table? >> Yeah. So, and you know, we're we're 269 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,200 doing everything we can to get the state um 270 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:06,400 to actually sit down and talk with us about the host community benefit 271 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:10,480 agreement. Um I believe there's one person right now that's that's not in 272 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:16,000 agreement with that at the state. Unfortunately, it's a commissioner um 273 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:20,960 that doesn't agree with that. And I don't really I don't really see how that 274 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:25,600 is. I've I have met with and talked um with Cassella. I certainly don't want to 275 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:32,559 represent their thoughts on it or or anything else, but um 276 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:38,400 it's it's troubling that we're having to push this through legal means to try to 277 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:44,240 get the state to sit down and talk about this because legislatively it was passed 278 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:48,000 to take place. Um but right now they're not doing anything and we've asked to 279 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,640 get something back in writing and haven't gotten anything back in writing. 280 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Um, I think there's certainly things in there that are in the expense side of 281 00:22:54,799 --> 00:23:03,760 our budget, um, that could certainly, you know, help taxpayers in town and 282 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:08,240 help the budget ultimately. >> Did Jim ever have it get his chance to 283 00:23:05,679 --> 00:23:14,320 talk to Janet about that? Jim Dill was going to go talk with Janet. 284 00:23:09,679 --> 00:23:19,200 » So, so in her office, he's speaking with someone. Um, but that was supposed to 285 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:25,760 happen last week and I haven't really got an update so I'm not really sure um 286 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,760 where that stands. It's 287 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:36,400 my position is is that they should have been sitting in a room talking with us 288 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:41,360 this past fall. Um, and I've made that very clear to everybody that I've talked 289 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:44,080 to. If 290 00:23:41,679 --> 00:23:47,120 » they don't agree with me though, but >> I don't agree with them either. 291 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:51,200 » If something was passed that requires talks, what are our steps if the state 292 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:56,799 keeps resisting >> at some point? I mean, it's it sounds uh 293 00:23:55,120 --> 00:24:00,880 it sounds strange. I mean, the only way to the only way to resolve that is to 294 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:05,840 file some type of suit, which, you know, that's why we're trying to get back in 295 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:10,799 writing um from that department in writing like, why do you not agree with 296 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,240 this? And so far we haven't received anything back. So 297 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:17,760 » thank you. >> So my patience is running short. 298 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,440 » I bet. >> Sure. 299 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:26,240 » Yeah. Okay. >> Daniel on the balance sheet the the 300 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,720 projects reserve. >> Is that earmarked as just a general fund 301 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:33,679 for future projects or do we is it dedicated money? 302 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:38,720 » We have dedicated money for it. I can bring the list um to our next meeting. 303 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:42,480 And then I know we we have revisited this over and over, but really has never 304 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:47,279 gone anywhere, but the skateboard park money 305 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:52,159 allocated or not considering we've never really done anything with it. And I'm 306 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:57,559 talking this is way before my time. >> Yeah, this has been 307 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,559 forever. 308 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,760 » So I don't know how it was earmarked if it had a precedent that Yes, it was for 309 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:08,559 the skateboard park, but that's never come to fruition. Correct. 310 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:13,880 » Do we have a >> So that that reserve um 311 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:22,080 got established um 312 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:26,159 like in the early 2000s. I think there's $38,000 in there. 313 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,279 » Yeah. >> It's a small chunk of money, but at this 314 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,400 point, anything's going to help. >> Yeah. So, I just like like Christy said, 315 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,400 is there an MOU out there that requires us to use it for the park? 316 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,200 » I think it was just a council resolved that established it. 317 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:54,080 » I Well, I have a question though, too. Is that um the whole idea of uh 318 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,640 Go ahead. I know this is a tall order, but do we 319 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:03,039 think that it would be possible to get a list of all of our department's 320 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,000 subscriptions and services that we're subscribed to? Cuz I was talking to 321 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:10,080 Linda about this before the meeting, and I just would like to have a list of what 322 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:16,320 we subscribe to and what it's used for, and just see if there are more modern 323 00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:20,799 options, uh, what's needed, what's not needed. Um, and I suspect we're not 324 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:24,400 going to find much, but I think that any dollar amount is helpful. 325 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,240 » And that go that goes along with what I was going to bring up is the fact that, 326 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:33,520 and I know it's just because of convenience, the way you do it, is that 327 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:37,679 most of the line items are 3%. And I'm thinking in the same thought that he is, 328 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:43,200 is that I think we could get some savings out of that if not I know wages 329 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:47,120 and those things are set. I'm not looking at that. I'm looking at things 330 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:52,640 like your dues and subscription kinds of things, even travel. Is there a 331 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:58,159 possibility that uh your the departments could look at those and say, "We really 332 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:03,279 need to do X, Y, and Z, but we don't have to do ABC." And then that way we 333 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,640 could I know it won't be a lot of money, but I think we could uh tighten the 334 00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:11,840 belt, per se, to to get a few more bucks. 335 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:18,080 » Yeah. So, so when we started out, that original list was at that 3% which was 336 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:22,559 like the $520 something,000. So, we've gone back and looked at like actual 337 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,720 versus budgeted amounts. >> Yeah, they on this one they changed a 338 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:34,320 little bit because the one I had most of them there 3% 3% 3%. And I understand 339 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:40,240 why, you know, holding that uh holding that to that line. I understand that. It 340 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:45,200 would help us as a council to know, okay, we know for sure that you need 341 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:47,600 this money for that and easier to say yes to instead of saying no to 342 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,320 something. >> So I I can go back and do that, but 343 00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:56,880 there's as many lines that will come down, there are lines that will go up. 344 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:01,919 So like if you look at the utility line, I just did 3%, but if utilities is 345 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:06,960 understandable, that's that's going to go up. I mean, we know that and because 346 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:11,039 of just the way things are, we understand that. But I'm not looking at 347 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:16,399 those types of lines. I'm looking at the ones that uh we look, like I said, 348 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:22,480 advertising. Those are the types of lines I'm looking at because we know you 349 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:27,039 the utilities, at least I do. Uh and I know gas is going up. I understand all 350 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:31,120 of that. But if we just look a lot closer to some of the other things we're 351 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:35,840 doing, uh even supplies that you guys have, is there a chance that that you 352 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,559 look at and go, well, you know, we really don't need that much money in the 353 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:44,000 supplies area, >> right? But but to that point, like the 354 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:50,080 utilities, we have a 3% increase, but it should go up eight or nine%. So, you 355 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:55,840 know, that not increasing it to where it should be, um, you know, is keeping the 356 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:59,279 budget artificially low where, you know, like the travel and or the supplies and 357 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,600 stuff. So, I mean, I I can go through, but 358 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,440 » I don't want to just take away without adding in. 359 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,240 » Yeah. Okay. That's true. And if you want to do that, that's all right with me, 360 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,600 but >> there's not one of us around here that 361 00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:16,080 doesn't realize that that's not going to happen. budget. There's still, I think, 362 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:21,600 a way to look to see if there's a place to save a few bucks. 363 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:27,600 » Yeah. Like on the advertising part of it, a law to what we do um is required 364 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:33,760 by law and they require us to put it in a public paper like the Bangor Daily 365 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:38,399 News, which their advertising rates are outrageously high. If we have a list of 366 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:45,440 what's happening, it's easy for us to say we're spending that money because 367 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:49,200 because we can explain it to the uh uh our constituents that this is what's 368 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:52,200 going on. >> Anyway, 369 00:29:52,240 --> 00:30:00,480 and also the other question I have, you and I talked a little bit. I don't mean 370 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:05,279 we were talking about this building. Y >> we owe money over it on it. When will 371 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,720 When will we have it completely paid off? 372 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,480 » Uh, two years. >> In two years. 373 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:10,799 » We have two more years. You want to sell it? 374 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,159 » No. No. Sell it. >> No, I don't. 375 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,520 » Let's borrow. >> You can sell it. 376 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:20,559 Don't have very many people in here. >> Sure. You don't want to sell it? 377 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:26,240 » Yeah. Don't sell it. >> No. I'm just c because that would be 378 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:30,480 meaning that there is actually hopefully a little bit of a help in a couple years 379 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,360 or >> to have that happen. How much are we 380 00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:35,919 paying each year? >> Uh $70,000. 381 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,080 » $70,000 >> and and principal and it's like six on 382 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:45,600 interest. So just about just under $80,000. 383 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:49,440 » That's a lot of money. >> Yeah. We've got capital expenses that 384 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,279 we've got to deal with at some point in time, 385 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,360 » right? Yep. >> Take that and then some we can't let 386 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,000 that go forever. >> Yeah, that's right. 387 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:04,720 » Any other questions? I got one more. >> Go. Yes. 388 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:08,960 » The when the police and the fire departments come to present to us, there 389 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:12,720 are a lot of big equipment upgrades and needs that are down coming down the 390 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:19,120 pipeline. Are any of those factored into this? And no, not at this time. Uh 391 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,480 nothing that we expect will be directly needed this year. 392 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,760 » Well, we do have some equipment that's needed and and so we're working on 393 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:29,679 getting quotes and preparing that list. And so again that list will end up 394 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,360 coming out of reserves which again we can only do that for another year before 395 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,320 you know our reserves will be depleted and then 396 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,000 » we're not putting any more money in. >> Correct. We are not 397 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:43,399 this will be our third year not putting money in reserves. 398 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:54,159 » Yeah. Yeah, if you look back at that summary page, you'll see that um you 399 00:31:50,399 --> 00:32:00,640 know capital items uh capital items in 2023 were a million6, 2024 a million7 400 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,720 and then they've been 514,000 for the past 3 years. 401 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,840 » Okay. >> Just not putting money in 402 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,799 » and that's where that's where the building would be. Correct. C. No, 403 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:15,000 » no, under the debt service. >> Oh, sorry. Wrong place. 404 00:32:20,399 --> 00:32:23,399 Okay. 405 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Any other questions? Anything else you want to add or 406 00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:40,480 you all set? >> Yep. 407 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:46,320 And everyone's all set. Is there a motion to adjourn? 408 00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:51,159 Second favor. 409 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,159 » Thank you. 410 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:16,519 » Okay. I'd like to call to order the Tuesday, April 21st, excuse me, city 411 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,519 council meeting. Uh, first flagg 412 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:28,080 to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it 413 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:33,559 stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice 414 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,559 for all. 415 00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:39,279 » Next up will be roll call. >> Silent roll call has been taken and a 416 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,120 quorum is present. Thank you. Approval of minutes for the March 16th, 2026 417 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,840 special city council meeting. I have a motion. 418 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,799 » Move to approve the minutes. >> Second. 419 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:54,080 » Dave. >> All those in favor? 420 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:58,200 » Additions, communications, and citizens requests. Anybody in the audience? 421 00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,919 » There's no public. >> There's no public. 422 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:07,919 » Yeah. >> Reports. Council President, I do not 423 00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:11,520 have anything. Standing committees, city councilors. 424 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:16,320 » Yes, sir. >> As our legislative affairs liaison, I've 425 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,399 reached out officially to Mike Tipping and Jim Dill to see if we can get some 426 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,159 face service and have them come in and just give a little bit of a legislative 427 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:27,839 update. It' just be nice to have a connection that's a bit stronger between 428 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:31,760 the council and our representatives. So, Mike Tipping's on board. He's locked in. 429 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,119 We just need to come up with a date that will work. I don't know if we want him 430 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:39,359 to come in during our budget season or wait maybe until July, but we can figure 431 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,960 that out. And I haven't heard back from Mr. Dill, but he's going to be speaking 432 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:47,280 with us at Rotary this Thursday, so I'll be able to ask him right then and there. 433 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,359 So, I'm sure we'll hook him, too. >> But that's all I have. 434 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,960 » Thank you, sir. >> Chris. 435 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:54,960 » Yes, sir. >> I have something. Uh there's been a lot 436 00:34:53,440 --> 00:35:01,760 of talk. I don't know if you noticed it in Shaolin's notes uh about uh things 437 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:06,480 going on at the lake questions on zoning and I was wondering if there was a way I 438 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:11,520 was hoping April or uh Travis might be here tonight but I'd like to ask Bill or 439 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,320 someone to see if there's a way that we could get some people from the lake that 440 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,760 have concerns to meet with them. Uh I don't know how we do that, Bill. What's 441 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,560 the best way to do it? Maybe just have one or two people come in and see April 442 00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:27,280 and Travis. >> Yep. that that's to start with. 443 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:33,359 » Uh some of the questions arise are around uh seasonal I mean uh the zoning 444 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,880 how it's zoned now and short-term rentals and things like that. So those 445 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,079 would be the two issues. >> Okay. 446 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,520 » If we could set that up or something and I'll get a couple people from the lake 447 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,520 that would come in maybe meet with them. >> Yep. 448 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:59,240 » City attorney. >> Nothing. Thank you. Special committee. 449 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,240 And how about city manager, sir? 450 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,400 » Yes. Sure. You can finish writing your note. 451 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:14,240 Um on the economic development side, um 452 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,920 Amy's work with the LLC and DTO just looking at, you know, possible 453 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:24,400 restructure and and roles of both of those organizations. Um, so they're 454 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:28,640 actively working at that. Um, we just discussed earlier, uh, been 455 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,960 working on trying to get into the negotiations with the state. We'll 456 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:37,119 obviously keep you folks, um, prized to that and we're we're pushing as hard as 457 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,520 we can and hopefully we'll hopefully we'll get uh, we'll get that get that 458 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,520 started. Um, 459 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:52,480 some of the things I talked to to Casseller about uh was curbside, the 460 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:57,599 cost of it, if we could we could get that changed. Um, you know, possible 461 00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:01,839 adjusting tipping fees and some additional benefits whether it's up at 462 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:09,920 up at the transfer station or whatever. Um, I would say one thing to keep in 463 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:15,200 mind uh in this negotiations is that and this is only me uh and I'm willing to to 464 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:19,440 take any feedback from you folks, but you know 465 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:24,720 throughout the course of this uh landfill in Oldtown, the state has taken 466 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:30,640 a very active position in pushing stuff off to Cassella. It's their landfill. 467 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:34,800 They own it. They started it here. So, in my opinion, they're responsible for 468 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:38,079 picking up some of this stuff. I'm sure part of their push back is that they 469 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:42,560 don't want to have to fund any of these things. But the problem is is that that 470 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:47,760 landfill started out as a construction demolition debris landfill and they have 471 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:53,680 allowed trash to be put in there and they have allowed all kinds of municipal 472 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:59,200 solid uh municipal sludge to go there because of decisions they made on PAS. 473 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:02,960 That's all well and good, but what they had negotiated and what they're doing 474 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:09,040 now are two totally different things. So I believe the state carries a huge 475 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:14,960 burden in that. Um so that will be my push when I talk to them. 476 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,920 » Could Cassella be legally responsible for taking that stuff based on the 477 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,480 agreement? >> The all they are is the daily operator 478 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,560 of that site in the end. It's the states it's the 479 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:32,079 state's landfill. um 480 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:36,720 it's their responsibility to to deal with it and they tell Cassella 481 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,440 what is going to go in there. Cassella doesn't have any control over whatever 482 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,440 goes in there. The state sets all those parameters. 483 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:52,240 Um letter of support went out to uh 484 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:56,560 Northern Border Regional Commission support uh letter on the waterline 485 00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:02,960 extension from College A over to the Penny Road. Um wrote a letter of support 486 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:08,720 for that. Uh it's a $500,000 grant. The water district has just over $4 million 487 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:14,160 now. Um kind of in a capital stack of different grants that they've aligned. 488 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,760 And that will be a good project uh when that happens because right now you know 489 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,920 the water line kind of dead ends on College AB and it dead ends on this end 490 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:26,560 of town. And if we can make that loop system particularly for the people on 491 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,800 both ends of that are going to see a big difference in the water pressure they 492 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:34,240 have and also if there was ever a fire or any of that stuff, we'll have some 493 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:39,280 redundancy in those lines instead of it just stopping. So it' be a nice be a 494 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,960 nice improvement there. And I know the University of Maine um has that in in 495 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:48,640 some of their plans as far as possibly adding, you know, some stuff on campus 496 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,520 because they'll have extra capacity with that with that water line there. 497 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:59,440 Um, and the only other thing is that we're uh Danielle and I work on a 498 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:03,280 capital plan um that uh Isabelle Lee asked about on the comp plan. And 499 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,760 obviously when we get that done, we'll bring that forward for the council to 500 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:15,200 take a look at and make sure you are in agreement with it or want to add things 501 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:20,560 or or whatever. So that's it for me. We have a uh meeting coming up Thursday 502 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,480 all planned this week. Yep. Thursday night. Yep. 503 00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,440 » Okay. You're going to be there? >> Yep. 504 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,880 » Good. >> Okay. There wasn't very many there the 505 00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:30,400 last time. There was only like four of us. 506 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:34,560 » So, >> but it was a good meeting. I learned a 507 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:38,880 lot. So, good. Glad you couldn't be there. 508 00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:42,079 » Bill, on the uh I I think it was in your notes. I don't I don't remember just 509 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,200 when, but something about you finally thought there was some movement from the 510 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880 mill on the access to the energy and enterprise pack. 511 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,680 » Yep. >> Is that still going forward? 512 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:59,440 » So, I'm just waiting to get back. So, they have u um Christie prepared uh all 513 00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:04,079 the information the the deed for that um right away easement there and they have 514 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:07,720 that. I'm just waiting for a signature back from them. 515 00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:13,760 That's on my punch list to say, "Hey, >> yeah, 516 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:20,480 » let's get it signed." >> Um, I'm gonna hate to ask this question. 517 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,520 » Is there an ordinance based on the loudness of a vendor? 518 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:27,040 » No. >> No. Okay. 519 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:31,040 » We have a nuisance ordinance >> because I sat yesterday thought I was 520 00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:37,520 hearing things at home working in my office and then I realized that's I'm 521 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:41,839 like that's ice cream truck music. There was an ice cream truck that drove around 522 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:45,440 town yesterday. >> Honest to God, yesterday cuz I went and 523 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:51,440 looked and I saw it and stopped at the high school and that music played for 524 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:55,119 probably 20 25 minutes and yeah, it's all good. You're a kid and everything. 525 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,560 But after a while, you're repetitive that music 526 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,560 » making you a little crazy in your office at home. 527 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,839 » I turned my music up in my office. But like, so that was just curious too 528 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,160 because it had a big yellow deck. It was a purple van with a big yellow duck on 529 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:15,280 the side and going up and down the side streets and I'm like since when did 530 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:18,079 Oldtown get an ice cream truck? And then they're at the high school for a while. 531 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,920 So >> it's not just Oldtown. They go around 532 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:25,280 there bunch of different corno they go through Milford. 533 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:31,359 » Okay. >> Generally it's around the time of day. 534 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:36,079 Um, so if we started getting multiple complaints about that, um, we deal with 535 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:40,800 that, but usually it's like early morning and the more typical thing that 536 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:43,839 we run into is someone has a day off from work and they start their wood 537 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:49,040 chipper at 6:00 a.m. and they're running it. And that's not real popular. So that 538 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:54,960 would be an example of, you know, next door you're doing something that's 539 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:58,880 impeding on someone's, you know. >> So I was just like I was so dumbfounded 540 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,880 to watch that truck go by and then hear that music for a good 20 25 minutes. I 541 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,960 was like, >> and the thing is, I mean, we, you know, 542 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,359 » they're doing that >> and 543 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,119 » they're probably sitting there and they're so used to it that it's on and 544 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,319 they're not even thinking about it because you're not going to, it's not 545 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,119 like once you park in the parking lot up there at the high school, there's 546 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,680 already how many kids there? You don't have to leave the music on like for the 547 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,480 next 15 minutes. I mean, we could we could find out who it is. We could reach 548 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,880 out to him. I mean, that's not a problem. 549 00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:33,040 » Does he have a permit? Does she have to have a permit? 550 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,960 Oh, to sit on city own property you do. >> Yeah, 551 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,359 » they weren't I mean they were just literally driving up and down the 552 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,079 streets and stopping with the kids and stuff. 553 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:43,520 » Which was fine, but it just like I started to laugh going that's ice cream 554 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,880 music though. Like what is this? And then all a sudden I saw him go drive by. 555 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,319 I'm like okay that's good. That's nice. And then 20 minutes later I'm like okay 556 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:55,599 I'm done. >> But okay. Just curious about that. 557 00:43:53,119 --> 00:44:00,319 » Lucky duck. Yes. >> So all right. Anything else? 558 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:03,440 » All right. We'll move on. Consent agenda. The city council will consider 559 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,800 approving the renewal of a liquor and Victoria's licensing for the businesses 560 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:11,040 in Oldtown. Council Wilds. >> All right. Suggested motion is that 561 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:15,680 resolve the Oldtown City Council approves the renewal licensing for the 562 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:19,839 following businesses. Nanny's Restaurant located at 241 Main Street for a city of 563 00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:24,720 Oldtown Victillers and State of Maine liquor license. The Oldtown Theater 564 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:29,119 located at 261 Main Street for a city of Oldtown Victillers and State of Maine 565 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:34,240 liquor license. Governor's Restaurant located at 963 Stillwater A for a City 566 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:39,920 of Oldtown Victillers and State of Maine liquor license and the American Legion 567 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:44,000 Post 75 located at 20 Water Street for a state of Maine liquor license. All city 568 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:47,760 inspections have been done by code enforcement and the fire department and 569 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,319 past inspection. >> May I have a second? 570 00:44:51,760 --> 00:45:00,480 » I'll second. >> Any questions? 571 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:05,599 Right. All those in favor? So moved. We have no old business, no new business. 572 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:11,119 Uh next up is um we'll move to take up an item not 573 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:15,680 listed in the agenda. The old um actually we'll have 574 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,319 » I wrote you a motion to add the item to agenda. 575 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:22,000 » Okay. So we'll make a motion. The Oldtown So I need to read this then. 576 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:27,280 Okay. Oldtown City Council will consider entering into executive session pursuant 577 00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:30,079 of 1 MRSA 4056E for the purpose of consulting with the 578 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,720 city's attorney regarding a lease agreement with the Herbert Sergeant 579 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,480 building between the city of Oldtown and the Oldtown YMCA. 580 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,560 So that's my motion. Do I have a second? I need a second. Please 581 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,160 » second. >> This is to add it to the agenda. 582 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,119 » Can't you make any motion during new business? 583 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,560 » So why would you need a motion to add it to the agenda? 584 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,400 » It's not already on the agenda. >> It's not on the agenda. It wasn't 585 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:54,079 previously. No, >> I don't have it. 586 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,960 » No, nobody does. It just was decided to >> Well, no, I know. That's why I'm saying 587 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:01,000 it was being added because I didn't have it on mine when I turn it off. 588 00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:07,520 » So, I have my second table. 589 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:12,240 » Who was the second? >> Yes. Thank you. 590 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:18,280 » So, we're adding it to there. But I still need to read it though, don't I? 591 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,280 Yeah. Right. All right. 592 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,599 And you read it. >> I read it. So we're good. 593 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,560 » So you're good. We should >> move on. Okay. So we don't need any 594 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,680 further discussion at that point. >> All right. 595 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,760 » I guess. >> Thank you. 596 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,880 » And then you'll adjourn after. >> Right. So 597 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,680 » So we're going to executive session. Thank you everybody. 598 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,520 » Do we need a motion now to enter executive session? 599 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:42,480 » That is the motion though, too. >> That is the motion. So 600 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,160 » Okay. 647. >> That's what was throwing me. 601 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:52,240 » Just worded really strangely. I was going to say you don't need to make a 602 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,240 motion to add something to an agenda.