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Good afternoon and welcome to the June
9th regular council meeting of the

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Oldstown Council. I call the meeting to
order at 1

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PM. We'll move down to the added items
portion of the agenda and I'll ask

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council if they have any added items
today. Seeing none, um I will then move

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down to item B, adoption of the agenda,
please.

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and a motion to adopt the agenda or are
we going to go consensus? We're going to

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stay with consensus. That's a good one.
We're all good. All right. So, deem

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excuse me, consensus to adopt the agenda
as presented. And moving down to page

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two of your agenda, the regular council
meeting minutes of May 26, 2025. Does

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council have questions, additions,
deletions?

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Seeing none, I believe we have consensus
then also for the regular council

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meeting minutes of May 26,

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2025. Very good. We will now move down
to the public hearing portion of our

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agenda on page five of your agenda.

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And before I declare it uh the public
hearing

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open, I will read the pecuniary interest
for the municipal counselors. Section

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1672 of the MGA says that you may not
take part in the discussion and decision

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making of any matter in which you have a
pecuniary interest. Legislation attempts

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to ensure that you are not
discriminated. If you are if you have a

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pecuniary
interest, you are to disclose that you

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have an interest and its nature. You are
to abstain from any discussion of the

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matter and from voting. You are to leave
the room until the matter has been dealt

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with and you should make sure that you
abstain. Your abstension is recorded in

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the minutes and you are not to be
discriminated in any way.

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I now declare the public hearing for
bylaw

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202511 open at
102. Thank you. And I will direct this

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now to our municipal planner, Mr. Kyle
Sloan.

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Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, bylaw
2025-11

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uh proposes to accomplish two things.
The first is to reszone uh two parcels

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of land um located at 6102 and
640248th Avenue

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um from DC7 direct control district uh
that's specific to uh cannabis

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production to I1 which is our uh general
light industrial district. Um the second

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thing uh that's proposed in this bylaw
is to introduce a new definition uh that

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is not currently in the bylaw and that's
for um a data center. Um the proposed

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meaning would be that that is a building
used to store computer systems and

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associated components for the storage or
processing of data and may require

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constant climate control.
Um the uh that uh definition would then

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be added as a permitted use to the I1
district. Uh not specific to this parcel

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at all. Um but throughout town, we have
had a number of inquiries recently about

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this and our bylaw being from a time
when data centers didn't exist does not

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have this defined. So we're just uh
adding that as a listed use. Thank you.

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Thank you very

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much. Before I move forward with this,
I'm just scanning through um the gallery

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and I'm one do not see anybody here that
is speaking for or against this

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bylaw. Very good. And we have no one
online. Very good. So then I will move

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right down and ask my council if they
have any comments.

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Keeping in mind, of course, I do
understand there was no written

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correspondence received at all for this
proposed bylaw as well. Is that correct,

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Mr. Sloan? That's correct. Very good. I
will Do you have any closing comments

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you'd like to share? Very good. Then I
declare the public hearing closed at

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10:04 p.m. and ask you to refer back to
page 5, please for the bylaw and ask for

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second reading. Councelor Wilson.
Thank you, Mayor Doll. I make the motion

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that bylaw
2025-11 be given second reading as

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presented. Very good. Thank you,
Councelor Wilson. Those in

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favor? That is carry. Third and final
reading, please. Councelor Blatz. Deputy

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Mayor Blatz. Thank you, Mayor Doll. I
move that bylaw 2025-11 be given third

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reading as
presented. Very good. Uh, Deputy Mayor,

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those in favor, that is carried. And
thank you, Mr. Sloan, for your time

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today. We will move forward
now down to

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page nine, which is 4A of your agenda.
And this is our RCMP quarterly report.

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and I'll have uh our CEO introduce our
our RCMP member.

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Thank you, Mayor D. Today I'm standing
in for acting staff sergeant Jamie Day

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is uh Mr. Life Spencson. So, life,
welcome. Thank you, CEO Williams. Uh

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good afternoon, Mayor D counselors. Um
as uh mentioned, uh Staff Sergeant or

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acting staff, Sergeant Jamie Day sends
his regards uh here in his place. My

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apologies for not being in uniform. I
tweaked uh a part of my body playing

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hockey a couple weeks ago, so I'm on
modified duties for the week, but um I'm

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here nonetheless. Uh I did send the uh
the report the the stats to uh Director

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Andrew in May. I'm obviously obviously
it must have made it way to you for

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review. Um I'll just ask if there's any
comments or questions with respect to

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any of the uh information that you see
in front of you.

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We'll start with councelor Ryan.
Uh thank you Mayor Doll and through you

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to uh was it constible officer sergeant
uh corporal corporal. Thank you. I

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didn't hear what uh what your title was.
Thank you. Uh Corporal Spencer, I don't

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know if you can answer this question I
have or not, but it was on page uh two

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of your report with regards to on page
uh 11 in the agenda package on the crime

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stats. Um just had a quick question on
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um other provincial stats which is under
the um total I guess total four the

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provincial stats we have um there's
number 58 there and it's quite a bit of

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an increase and I'm just wondering if
you had any idea of what these

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particular stats include and what if you
had any idea of trends or anything for

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the reason for the jump. I'm not sure if
you can answer that question. Uh I can't

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I can't answer it specifically. Um three
of the major ones if you see above

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Licorac cannons act mental health act.
Those are three of the uh major

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provincial statutes that we deal with.
Uh noncriminal in nature. Um it's it's a

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wide variety of items. uh they're all
proincially based though uh based on

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statutes and laws that um it could be uh
I mean as you see everything's tied in

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municipal bylaws in terms of traffic um
tickets um different offenses under the

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say traffic safety act rules of the road
regulations things like that so um it's

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it's they're not criminal in nature
they're not in my opinion uh in my

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experience not as significant as what
you see in the rest of the document

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especially on page one so I I have no
specific information based on that

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because the the wide variety of uh
events that occur within that um

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particular portion of the document. So
thank you very uh so this would just

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basically deal with the the traffic
safety component pro probably with

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regards to any kind of enforcement
traffic stops uh going through stop

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signs and things like that. Is that
right? Yeah, it's very possible. Um the

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numbers as you see total provincial
traffic uh in the third shaded or the

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first shaded uh row uh near the uh the
bottom of the document

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262. Um again that's everything traffic
related and other provincial statistics

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uh could very well fall within that as
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Yeah. I have a couple questions myself.
Um for for your report with regards to

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mischief mischief other um the stats
have really jumped here to 22 from last

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year of 10. Is there a common area that
you're seeing the trend for the stats?

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It's on page 10 in the agenda. Yes, I I
see that. I noticed that as well during

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my review of the stats. So mischief
again is a uh a very broad offense

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within the criminal code. Mischief. I
mean, there's a definition within, I

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believe, the dictionary. I mean,
probably up to no good, if you will. Uh,

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but mischief, um, it can include noise
complaints. It can inuh include u

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neighbors disturbing other neighbors for
a variety of reasons. It's a very, uh,

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lowrisk, um, component of what we do in
the criminal code. Uh, again, a wide

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variety of occurrences can be reported
within that mischief uh, complaint or

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event type. I have no concern with it at
all based on my knowledge of the code

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and um the things that I've reviewed
over my time in OS here and everywhere

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else I've been. And the other one I had
was to do with the common police

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activities for false alarms and I'm
thinking it might have something to do

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also with the fire department. So either
yourself or director Andrew could answer

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that. I can speak to it first off. Um
typically it was a significant increase

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uh over the last uh quarter of the last
fiscal year. I mean it is 10 more

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occurrences uh up from 16 to 26. Uh a
lot of this is uh to do with equipment

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malfunction, employee error when they're
say keying in their uh code at the uh

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workplace when they first come to work
or if they uh arm it or say attempt to

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arm it when they leave and they don't do
it properly. then we get a call to go to

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uh say a bank or another workplace. Uh I
hope that answers your question.

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Certainly it does. Are there any other
questions? Councelor Cummings and then

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uh Councelor Wilson. Uh thank you Madame
Mayor. If I can draw your attention to

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page I think it's the second page of the
stats anyways where offensive weapons

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are
listed. Um we're up to three in the

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first quarter of this year. Um, and I
know that most recently there was an

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announcement by the RCMP that another
weapons weapon was seized during a drug

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raid in
ins. It seems that those numbers are

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always increasing. We hear about a lot
in the news. We see it a lot in our

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local detachment getting these weapons
off the street. So, I'm kind of happy

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that we're getting weapons off the
street. Kind of sad that there's that

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many weapons on the street in Olds that
are involved, I'm assuming, involved in

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other crimes. And I'm going to talk
about two I think that aren't even

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included in this three. The one that was
just recently announced where the

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gentleman had a firearm in his RV and
then the drug raid that was done in

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north the north end of town that also
yielded a firearm. In your experience,

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are you is it normal for us to have this
because the stats don't seem to be it

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out this many firearm related offenses
or this many firearms seized during

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other raids? And is it something that
the community should be very worried

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about or not? I I don't think it's
something the community should be

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worried about at all. If you look at the
overall percentage, this is 200% jump

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from the previous quarter. Um most
definitely looks significant, but the

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actual numbers three versus one from the
prior. So we have two more occurrences.

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um the uh information that you uh
mentioned here, the details you

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mentioned regarding the previous search
warrants that's not included in this

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quarter of course seeing as the fiscal
year ended in March 31st. However, um

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these things do happen. Uh I I can speak
of one from this quarter I believe was

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an individual who had a collapsible
baton in his in his custody or his care

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when he was taken into custody for
another matter. Um it was for uh his

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words personal protection. Um, it's not
a prohibited device to own a class of

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baton, such as what I carry when I'm on
duty in my uniform. Um, we we take these

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weapons from individuals when there's
offenses, say related to uh why they're

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in custody. If um they consent to them
being uh relinquished, then we'll take

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them off their hands as well, obviously,
for public safety reasons. But um based

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on the number over three months, uh
offensive weapons, I mean it's it it

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appears to be quite serious the way it's
described offensive weapons, but it

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could be a pocketk knife. It could be a
baton as I mentioned um in the most

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recent search uh with um our crime uh
reduction unit that uh supported um the

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investigation that you referred to
earlier. Uh firearms are very rarely

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seized here. Uh uh a year and a half
ago, we did have a a public safety

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search warrant for firearms in the
community. Um no charges were laid as a

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result of public safety warrant. That's
a weapon as a mechanism to get them off

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the street. Um in that case though, uh
we did see a number of uh

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non-restrictive firearms, hunting
rifles, shotguns, and such. But um but

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this type of occurrence, as you can see
from the numbers, it's not happening

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very often at all. Well, three and a
quarter isn't significant to me. I've

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worked in places that uh where many more
weapons were seized um even on a a

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weekly basis. So, uh it's all relative
to the community and place that I've

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worked in Olds is in my opinion very
safe place to be and I I I don't think

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that that number and that percentage
should cause any concern to the citizens

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of the community in my opinion.
Thank you for answering that. And we'll

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go to councelor Wilson.
Thank you, Mayor Doll. and through you

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to the corporal. Just um a question. I'm
going to take us down a little slightly

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little different path around traffic
enforcement tied in maybe perhaps a

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little bit page 11 around um alcohol
suppression and um and so on. But so

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we're into the summer season now.
Traffic patterns are changing. We got

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more activity on the roads, events,
hydration becomes an issue. Can you talk

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a little bit about traffic enforcement
within the town, less so around

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speeding? Speeding always is a hot
button topic for our citizens. Um, not

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so much. When we had our our recent
coffee with council session, there were

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one or two inquiries, but could you talk
a little bit about just general traffic

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enforcement in town to the extent you
can without giving away any secrets, how

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that looks, what does that look like
through the summer, and how do we blend

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in w with mandatory alcohol screening,
which came in many years ago, 2018.

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What's the process there relative to
policies within the detachment within

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guidelines within individual officer
discretion and your spidey senses? How

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does that m uh mandatory alcohol
screening work in a lawful traffic stop?

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Thanks. No problem. Uh that's a good
question, a good couple questions. I'll

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speak to the mandatory alcohol screening
first uh if you don't mind. So mandatory

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alcohol screening, as you just
mentioned, has been in place. It's been

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a law in Canada since 2018. Um,
basically it gives any peace officer or

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police officer the uh authorization to
uh demand a breast sample from any

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operator of any motor vehicle regardless
of the circumstances. There doesn't have

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to be suspicion uh or um any belief that
the operator of the vehicle or motor

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vehicle has been is impaired or has been
consuming alcohol. So it's uses a

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preventative measure to deter impaired
driving. Basically, if people know that

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they're going to be uh blowing into
approved screening device, an ASD as we

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call it, uh every time they're pulled
over, then hopefully people will realize

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that you don't have to just have uh 10
drinks with a tremendous uh amount of

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liquor on your breath or um all the
other symptoms, you know, uh glossy

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eyes, um flushed cheeks, slurred speech
and whatnot to be uh I guess issued a

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breath demand. So, it's to be proactive
rather than reactive. Back in the day

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before 2018, we were discouraged from
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to test for alcohol or liquor on board
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were told to use our uh I guess our
investigative abilities to determine if

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a driver is impaired. For example,
driving behavior um against third

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speech, their appearance. If I ask for a
motor vehicle, a driver to give me their

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driver's license, registration,
insurance card, their their behavior,

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their fumbling, say, of their wallet,
and then if we're absolutely uh not 100%

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sure that they've been consuming alcohol
and that their ability to operate a

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vehicle is impaired, then we would use
the SD. Now, it's the first thing we'll

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do. We'll advise them as to why the
person stopped. It has to be a lawful

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detention, of course, a uh failed to
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present the approved screening device,
explain the mandatory alcohol screen

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demand to the driver of the vehicle, and
then usually the person uh driving the

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vehicle will comply and blow because the
punishment for failing or refusing to

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provide a sample is the same as being
impaired if you're over 08. So, um it's

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it's regular practice. It doesn't matter
time of day, the uh the uh the driving

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behavior, the uh I mean we're not
discriminatory when it comes to who we

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stop, why we stop them, and then why we
asked them to blow. It's law. So, uh

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it's the members um option to again
administer the the mandatory alcohol

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screen demand and then to administer the
ASD device to the driver. There's no um

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I mean a lot of drivers ask us, why am I
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I'm with my kids. I'm going to the mall.
I haven't been drinking. It doesn't

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matter. And we explain it on scene. And
this is bigger than the town of Olds. I

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mean, it's uh it's law within the
country of Canada. And then obviously

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the government of Alberta has its own
provisions when it comes to meter

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roadside sanctions and the punishment
associated to drive impaired. So I don't

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know if that answers your question with
respect to mandatory alcohol. Thanks.

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Yeah, no problem. And and now to answer
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enforcement, you're absolutely right.
more vehicles on the road, people with

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their campers going to say campgrounds
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convertible, uh say if the sun's out and
the tops down. Um we had can road safety

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week a couple weeks ago. We set up uh
deliberate check stops at um particular

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intersections and locations to obviously
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we're doing it. um if we're looking for
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to educate people first of all because I
know I was I participate in a few of

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those and I found no infraction this is
a good thing um but we are going to be

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stepping up traffic enforcement here and
there um time of day weekend say uh

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school zones but what we really want
though are people to come forward and to

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uh bring up concerns say uh in a school
zone if they're dropping their children

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off in a school zone hey I see or I
believe people are speeding through this

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area when I'm dropping my kids off, I
have a concern for the safety of the

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children and everybody else in the in
the location and we will go and we'll

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conduct traffic enforcement in that
area. If it's a a a problem location

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according to the citizens in the
community, right? But um I mean uh our

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our members are out and about. They'll
pull people over as they see fit based

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on driving behavior. Um it might be time
of day if say bar out at the uh bulldogs

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is on and we see someone who needs to be
pulled over based on uh their behaviors

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or their driving behavior or their
pattern then we'll do it. Uh it always

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increases in the summertime based on
volume um and what not the obvious

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factors Christmas time you know with uh
check stops because of the season but um

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summertime we will be increasing traffic
enforcement and we have a number of

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members who are really eager to do so
just to keep the roads safe in our

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community for our citizens for the
obvious reasons.

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Thank you very much. That was very
thorough and well explained and I like

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the eager to do so
part. Uh looks like we have no further

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questions at this time. So uh once
again, thank you for coming to our

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council today, Corpal Swinson. And have
a good rest of the day. Thank you, Mayor

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Doll. Uh thank you to everyone in the
room. All right. Have a wonderful day.

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So yes, take care. I'd entertain a
motion,

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please. Councilor Ryan. Thank you, Mayor
Doll. I move the council accepts the

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police Quarterly
Report as presented.

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Very good. Thank you. I will now call
for the vote. Those in

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favor? That is carried. Moving down to
page 22, please now for in in 4B

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infrastructure services quarterly
report CAO Williams.

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Thank you, Mayor Dal. And Dr. Pedro's
with us here to walk us through his

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report. Adrian.

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Good afternoon, council. I'd be happy to
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infrastructure
services. Moving on

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to
Okay, our first page here, we are just

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uh reporting on the utilities key
performance indicators. So what we've

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done in both utilities and public works
as part of our business plan uh draft we

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have established what our high level
KPIs are going to be. Um these are those

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four
utilities and as you can see we have

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been quite busy. On a quick glance I do
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should be 396 in Q2. So we've been quite
busy with that investigation this year.

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Moving on to the utilities work order
summary. So through citywide our work

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order platform we are able to break down
the type of work that the crews are

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doing. Um so in utilities you can see
primarily lab work and sampling have by

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far the most work orders. However, I
would note that something like leak

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detection in the bottom left of that pie
chart um there's only 23 work orders for

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that. However, it does often take the
most time. So the the pie chart is not

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necessarily representative of time, just
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doing. Moving on to water loss and INI.
Um this this is just a quick sum summary

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on what we've done in Q2. So we have
repaired seven service leaks on the

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water side. We do have a number of
outstanding locations that we are aware

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of. Um it's just we're having issues
trying to find them. So unfortunately

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this year um leaks have been quite
elusive. So we're having to spend a lot

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more time trying to find where they are
and employing different technology to

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try and do so. And on the wastewater
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infiltration. So May was quite helpful
with all of the precipitation that we

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did see to try and track down certain
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A couple of those locations are the
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dealing with the developer on that, and
then Smitty's Plaza is also a a recent

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one that we discovered. And at both
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is that um grading adjacent to sanitary
manholes is tying any sort of storm

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water into those manholes. So, it is a
quite a problem in town. And these are

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only two of the few locations that we
found so far. And we have um received

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quite a bit of the thorough footage for
the sanitary

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sewer. And in the southwest quadrant
north is how we break down the sections.

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We do have 12 areas of infiltration
found. And so that's requiring us to go

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out and do investigation to find where
that water is coming from. And that

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could be anything from groundwater to an
actual water leak. So whether it's on a

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service or water mane itself so that is
keeping us quite

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busy and getting into the percentages.
Um I I kid you not this is my least

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favorite time of the month when I get
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percentages. Um but what we are seeing
is there was an uptick in April. Um it's

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rather unfortunate. However, when we do
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percentage-wise, we are lower, which I
think is a good sign. In a few slides

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here, I will um explain where I think a
lot of the discrepancy and the

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percentages is coming from. So, I'm
happy to answer any questions on that

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shortly. Annual water distribution
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what I'd like to show council is that
we're comparing the

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distribution i.e. the outflow from the
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year-over-year. And so what we are
seeing in 2025, there is a notable

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decrease. And a lot of that would be
attributable to a lot of the repairs

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that we're doing. And so you can even
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So back in 2022, it's quite high. Um and
then it's decrease in

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2023, further decrease in 2024, and then
a notable decrease in

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2025. So I think it just speaks to all
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having an effect. They're not
necessarily being reflected in the

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percentages. However, um there there is
a reason for that in our

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estimation. So I think overall in the
water distribution volumes, this is a

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good sign as well.

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and breaking down a little bit more
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these are the volumes that get sent to
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station. What's interesting about this
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that what we are seeing that the effect
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less and less. So I'll jump back to May
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2024 rainfall volume was quite high. I
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around 127
millimeters and that resulted in quite a

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high SRD volume. Um I think it was
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then in May, what we're seeing is that
even though this red line here denotes,

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uh, this was 98 millimeters of rainfall
this May. Uh, we did have a

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substantially less volume that went to
the SRD lift station. So what this tells

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me and previous months show similar
trend. What this tells me is that the

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repairs and work that we are doing is
again having results. So, we all know

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historically that rain rainfall is an
issue in town and it does get into the

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system and so I think we're making
progress in that regard as

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well. And moving on to our water meters.
So, we are proceeding with phase one and

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if council recalls phase one was 640
meters that were being replaced with

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campstrip meters. Uh these numbers are
slightly outdated. Um, however, they are

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from last week. However, we are making
progress on getting those installations

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completed. There are a number of
outstanding locations. Um, we're working

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through those with the contractor. Um,
anything ranging from, you know,

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residents not getting back to them or
having certain issues with the program

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itself. So, we'll work with the
residents to move that

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those do hope to get this wrapped up by
this summer.

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And I think we're fairly confident we
can get there. And for reference, the

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640 locations are highlighted in yellow
on the map. So, we did decide to focus

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on the southwest quadrant of town as
it's historically been giving us a lot

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of issues for water leaks on surfaces

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specifically. And moving on to water
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So this is sort of a a big pivot for us
this year. Um so when I'm considering

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the percentages that we see on the table
a few slides ago, um what we're quite

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confident with at this point is that
we're suffering from a very high

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percentage of apparent loss. So what
that means is that we're not we're

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underregistering on our water meters
currently. So, the issue is that of our

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4,000 meters, 3,000 of those meters
approximately are 15 years or older. The

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problem with mechanical meters is that
once they reach that 15-year mark, they

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degrade quite substantially and so
you're not getting an accurate read on

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those meters. So, essentially, we're
under billing is what we're figuring

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out. Now the the data from the Camstrip
pilot program that we did uh starting in

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2023 is showing us that of those 94
locations there's a net increase of 223

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cubic meters per month for those 94
locations. So in doing a fairly

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straightforward calculation on what that
net increase would look like over the

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remaining inventory
um you can see here that it would equate

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to about 9500 cubic meters a month which
when you calculate that into a

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percentage loss that reduces our
percentage water loss by about about 10%

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over the
month. So this this is one of those

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things that we want to
attack quite quickly here which is why

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we're proposing to expand the
replacement program this year by about 7

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to 800 meters and we now the issue with
doing that is it is going to take away

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from doing other initiatives. So for
example on the sanitary main reling side

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we're are already identifying that that
program may not get the attention that

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we initially thought it was this year.
Um, however, when you look at the data,

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this is of a higher urgency at this
point. So, any questions on that before

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I move forward? Yes. Deputy Mayor Blaz.
Uh, thank you, Mayor Doll, and through

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you to Director Pedro. Um, I know for a
fact having firsthand experience with a

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company that's coming to do meters,
they're very

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um, compatible and that they're very
helpful with you in trying to set up a

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time that works. And I found that I had
three phone calls back to to try and set

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up a time and they were very reasonable
and and I think that maybe if if some of

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our residents realize that the program
is a benefit to them to have people come

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into their home that this is a very
legitimate company and uh I believe that

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you know maybe we could do a little bit
more promoting of them so that people

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are reassured because I've had a couple
of questions from well, why are we doing

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this and you know, can these guys come
into my home sort of situation. So, I

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think that um our experience has been
very favorable and I think that that

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type of information needs to be shared
with residents that might increase some

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of the uptake and response from those
that haven't responded. Thank you. Thank

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you, Councelor Daly. And then councelor
Cummings. Thank you, Mayor Doll through

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you to uh director of operations. um
with phase 2 roll out uh mentioning the

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15-year kind of being the benchmark that
you want to um start replacing or making

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sure that we got those meters out of our
system with phase 2 roll out. Will that

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capture that those meters of 15 years
and above or are we looking further down

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the road even uh yet to because this is
substantial. This is this is huge,

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right? So, thanks Aiden.
Yeah, great question. So, phase two

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would look at continuing on on the
progress of our approximately 4,000

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meters in our inventory. I believe the
number is

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3,048 are 15 years or older. So, we
would have to continue this year over

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year to address that deficiency.
Thank you, Councelor Cummings. Thank

407
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:57,279
you, Madam Mayor. Um, I'm not too sure
how it's the questioning has been coming

408
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,519
from the citizenry about our meter
replacement. I know I've got fielded a

409
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:05,760
number of questions about smart meter
technology and a lot of misinformation

410
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,960
that's out there on the internet about
smart

411
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,960
meters. Correct me if I'm mistaken. I
remember replacing water meters when I

412
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,639
used to work in utilities department.
There's smart meters already installed

413
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,800
in people's houses and that they
transmit all the time. We just don't

414
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:24,119
pick them up all the
time. and we're just replacing them with

415
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:29,280
smarter smart
meters. Are we getting any feedback uh

416
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:35,320
at the administrative level that I'm
seeing on the political level for the

417
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,320
whole smart meter concept?

418
00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:44,560
Um couple points. Um you're correct in
the sense that a lot of the existing

419
00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:49,520
meters are technically smart. They have
readers called MXUs attached to them

420
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:55,359
which is how we pick up our signal
during our monthly reads.

421
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:59,280
Um some of the issues that people are
concerned with for the smart meters is

422
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:03,440
just um you know we've heard some
radiation

423
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,760
concerns. However, we do have data to
educate people on that. Um we are

424
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:12,320
hearing that people don't want to
necessarily be tracked. Um but I I think

425
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,040
you hit the nail on the head. we do
already track their consumption for

426
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:21,200
billing purposes. So this is really no
different. Uh one of the messages we are

427
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:26,000
trying to get to those who are more
concerned about the meters in general is

428
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:32,079
that this would actually help them. Um
it's going to be a bit more accurate on

429
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:36,800
their end as evidenced with the pilot
program and then it will also let us

430
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:42,000
know if there's any issue in their
internal plumbing. So, a recurring issue

431
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:46,560
that people don't often see because it's
from a minor leak in their house,

432
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:51,119
whether it's from a faucet, toilet,
those types of plumbing. Um, quite

433
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:56,079
common. They won't necessarily see that
leak. But these meters, because they're

434
00:35:53,240 --> 00:36:00,640
monitoring all the time, will actually
assess what the trends are. So, they

435
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:05,119
will identify that, for example, there's
a spike overnight and this suggests that

436
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,720
there is a leak internally. So at the
end of the day, we would that would get

437
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:13,119
flagged in the system and then we would
contact that land owner to give them

438
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:17,760
that information. So there are benefits
to to their side as well.

439
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,040
Yep. Thank you for sharing that,
Councelor Ryan.

440
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:26,079
Thank you very much, Mayor Dol through
you to director Pedro. Um with regard

441
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:32,000
just a clarification for me then you
you're asking to um to increase the

442
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,440
number of meters or proposing to
increase the number of meters that we're

443
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:42,800
putting in uh this year. Um and you
mentioned about the sanitary sewer

444
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:47,920
relining program. Are you looking at
doing one or the other or does it just

445
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:52,560
mean that the senator soon relinigning
would be done

446
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,520
um later on or what what's your what's
your

447
00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:00,560
actual because I'm not quite clear what
you were asking or saying?

448
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:07,359
Yeah, for for sure. Uh happy to clarify.
So, because we are working with a set uh

449
00:37:04,839 --> 00:37:11,839
budget, we preemptively at the beginning
of the year allocated certain amounts

450
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:16,240
towards each initiative. Um, we did
allocate quite a bit to sanitary main

451
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:22,000
rellining. So, we would essentially
internally reallocate to doing phase two

452
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:28,160
of the meters. And so, sanitary main
relining likely wouldn't be completed

453
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:31,680
until next year at the earliest. Now,
that being said, we're making that

454
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,920
decision based on the fact that we're
not quite comfortable making a decision

455
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:41,040
on which sanitary means to do at this
time. So, a lot of that is based on the

456
00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:44,079
investigation from the camera work that
we're

457
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:49,359
doing. Excuse me. And because we don't
have all those all of that data and all

458
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:53,680
that footage, I don't think it'd be a
com we wouldn't be comfortable making a

459
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:57,160
decision on which sanitary means to do
at this point.

460
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:07,119
Okay. Supplemental then and perhaps
through to the CEO.

461
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Um what what would be the problem in
coming forward with uh you know budget

462
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:16,400
adjustment if we decide to do both
things if you know we pin down our

463
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:21,040
priorities later in the summertime with
regards to the relining and then

464
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:26,240
continue on to add on to these
additional meters that uh director Pedro

465
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:32,160
was suggesting. would we be looking at a
budget adjustment and what kind of um

466
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:36,079
you know is the 700 800 meters the same
amount as the sanitary seing because I

467
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,079
don't have the budget in front of me
obviously.

468
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Yeah. Um Adrian can comment on the exact
specifics or differentials in in the

469
00:38:43,359 --> 00:38:49,119
cost but I imagine will just be
replacing what's available in the

470
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:53,280
relining budget with and adding that to
the meter budget. It's totally possible

471
00:38:51,200 --> 00:39:00,480
to do a budget amendment in the realm of
um what would this be? $400,000ish.

472
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Uh this would be about 650 650. It's
just our reserves can't handle it.

473
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:08,400
That's what where the money would be
coming from. So I of course council can

474
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:12,240
tell me to do what they wish, but um I
wouldn't be comfortable bringing that

475
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,680
forward based on our current already
currently budgeted draw from reserves.

476
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,520
So it's I would say it's one or the
other. Okay, fair enough. Uh yeah, I

477
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:23,520
wasn't exactly sure what kind of money
we're talking about. So if we're talking

478
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:31,040
about a $650,000 hit to the budget, that
is ouch factor to me. Um so thank you.

479
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:36,240
Uh certainly, you know, I'll leave it in
your capable hands to decide which which

480
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:43,119
way is to go and u if you do see a
priority of of a sewer lining that is

481
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:50,200
really like it totally needs to be done
now, um I would imagine that you'll

482
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,200
balance that all out. So thank you.

483
00:39:52,000 --> 00:40:00,240
Perfect. Go ahead. Thank
you.

484
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:05,280
So now jumping over to our public works
group. Uh so similar to our utilities

485
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:08,680
department, we are breaking out the key
performance indicators as per our

486
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,240
business
plan. Um it is quite detailed for public

487
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,920
works. Um but we are working on all of
these initiatives currently.

488
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:28,839
and a similar work order summary. Um, as
you can see, there's a lot tied into

489
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:32,640
other work orders or
miscellaneous. That is a general catch

490
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:36,960
all category. We are looking to break
that down better in the future. Um, but

491
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:39,960
they have been quite active so far in
Q2.

492
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,599
Moving on to planning and
infrastructure. So a number of

493
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:52,800
initiatives going going on currently. Um
asset

494
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:57,280
management Lynn and the team has been
working quite diligently on this

495
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:02,880
initiative. Um unfortunately there's a
lot of data to go through so it takes

496
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:06,400
quite a bit of time but the team as a
whole is working well together. So we

497
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,880
are going to get there. Um the nice
thing about asset management is we are

498
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:15,280
starting to do field data collection. So
we do have the engineering summer

499
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:19,440
student um assisting with a lot of that.
So it's nice to see that get started so

500
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:23,520
we can feed that back into the asset
management

501
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:30,800
system. E-mitting is progressing quite
well. Um we are on schedule to have this

502
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:35,599
live to the public later this year. Uh
we are going to go live internally in

503
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:40,079
June, later this June. uh for us to
start using on our own and then once we

504
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,319
work out all the kinks, we'll roll that
out to the public later this year. On

505
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:49,520
the engineering side, we are quite busy.
Uh there's a few larger developments

506
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:53,359
that are taking up some time to review,
but however, it's good progress for the

507
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,880
town.
Director Pedro, we have a question.

508
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Councelor Dailyy,
thank you. Mayor Doll through you to uh

509
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,280
Director Pedro. Going back to your pie
chart, could you give us a bit of a

510
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:08,480
definition of what other and
miscellaneous is and what it consists

511
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:13,280
of? It uh seems to be quite general
there. So,

512
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,800
yeah. So, the system right now will
report on the work order types that

513
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,119
we've broken down. So, if there's
anything that falls outside of that, it

514
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:25,280
would automatically kick itself to the
other or the miscellaneous. Um

515
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:30,640
miscellaneous could be something as
simple as

516
00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:35,960
um you know they're starting to track
ordering supplies for example that would

517
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:43,359
be under miscellaneous. Um so there it's
not any significant work orders I guess

518
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:46,720
is the best way to describe it but we do
honestly it's it's a good point. We do

519
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,560
want to get away from those
miscellaneous categories. So that's

520
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:57,000
going to result in us creating more work
order types to better report on that

521
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000
data. But

522
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,520
other is similar. So if it the system is
a little strange at this point, if it

523
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:09,720
doesn't fit under miscellaneous, it'll
just kick it automatically to other. So

524
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,720
we do need to clean that up as well.

525
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,520
Councelor Wilson. Thank you. M through
to the director. Just a quick question.

526
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,440
Page 32 when you talk about the ashalt
repairs. I see some zeros there. I know

527
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:24,880
we have I believe we have some bright
new shiny equipment. This is just timing

528
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:28,160
or are there other factors that up until
June we hadn't been able to get to any

529
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,560
of those repairs and when I expect to
see then July, August, September like

530
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:38,079
things taking off like a rocket ship or
like you?

531
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Uh great question and absolutely. So in
May we were sidetracked with a few other

532
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:47,599
initiatives um and the rain didn't
necessarily help. So what the team's

533
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:52,960
been focused on essentially up until
this point is trying to deal with

534
00:43:50,319 --> 00:43:57,440
alleys. So they've been obviously as
council have seen um lots of reporter

535
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:03,520
problems on that. So trying to address
those issues and then we have uh part of

536
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:08,240
the team occupied with essentially doing
some expansion to the parking lot at the

537
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:13,280
operation center. Um now that being
said, we do expect uh actually later

538
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:17,200
this week to start on the Asheva
repairs. So, we're going to mark those

539
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:22,079
out, dig those out, and start doing
those internally. As far as the

540
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:26,160
contracted ashall repairs, we are
finalizing those locations currently,

541
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:30,440
and we plan to get those to the
contractor by the end of the week, and

542
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:35,839
then at that point, it's based on their
schedule. However, we do have a a

543
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:44,040
deadline for them by September 30th, I
believe. So, yeah, I I no concerns with

544
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:44,040
it actually being completed.

545
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:48,880
Perfect. Okay, moving

546
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:58,319
on. Getting into our planning and
development approval timelines. Um, as

547
00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:03,040
council will see valuation wise, we are
um a lot higher than last year. There's

548
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:09,520
some larger projects that are factoring
into that. Uh from a processing approval

549
00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:14,720
timeline, I think we're looking fairly
good at five and three days

550
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:18,880
respectively. Nothing has come to
council in Q2 and hence the

551
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:31,680
zero. And getting into building permit
statistics, so we are on track to have a

552
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:37,599
higher valuation in 2025 than 2024.
Um housing starts are are also if

553
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:43,920
mathematically slightly down than 2024.
However, I expect that this will be

554
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:43,920
higher by towards the end of the

555
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:56,000
year. And development permits uh similar
commentary. So we did have one large or

556
00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:01,400
sorry two large permits that have
increased the DP values there. So it is

557
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:06,640
quite a high number compared to
2024. Um however I think both from a

558
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:11,040
building per perspective and development
per perspective it is a good sign that

559
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:14,079
there is growth in the community and
we're seeing the effects of

560
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:23,200
that. And just giving council an update
on the spring cleanup initiatives. So we

561
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:26,480
did have our popup transfer station and
branch

562
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:30,400
dump and grass clippings for the month
of May. Um, the interesting thing we're

563
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:36,280
seeing for the pop-up transfer station
is that there was less use this year.

564
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:44,240
Um, so we don't have the tonnages yet
for the household waste or the hazardous

565
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:50,240
waste yet. Um, but numerically it was
down quite a bit. So 119 last year

566
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:54,560
versus 88 this year. Um, so what I think
we'll do later this year is we'll really

567
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:59,640
assess the effectiveness of the program
and if there's changes and if it does

568
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:03,280
make sense for us to continue in this
capacity. But all in all, the people

569
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,240
that did use it, I think we're quite
appreciative of

570
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:19,560
it. And on the health and safety side,
we've only had two incidents in Q2. Uh,

571
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:19,560
both were relatively minor.

572
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:28,319
looking forward. So, we are going to be
continuing a lot of what we're already

573
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:33,599
doing. Um, public works, as councelor
Wilson alluded to, ashvalt and concrete

574
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:39,760
repair programs are going to be ongoing
and internal hot mix repairs will also

575
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:44,319
be on starting soon. On the planning and
infrastructure side, we are going to

576
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:48,240
continue with our root patrol. So that's
what I mentioned earlier that we're

577
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:54,079
using on the asset management side to go
out identify infrastructure and identify

578
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:58,480
deficiencies on that infrastructure. So
excited

579
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:02,839
there and we I'm at the end. Happy to
take any questions. Yes, you are at the

580
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:08,400
end. You're we're looking
ahead. No further questions from

581
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:11,359
council. I see. Yes, councelor Wilson.
Thank you, Mol. And perhaps through you

582
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:17,040
to the CEO. One of the things I'm
passionate about is uh third party

583
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:21,440
utility rate analysis. We know amongst a
few things these days uh water water

584
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:26,079
rates are a hot button topic with our
residents. Um I've made the reference

585
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,480
going back a couple years when I was on
the water commission that water is fast

586
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,839
becoming like gold. We know those rates
are just going to go up. You have an

587
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:37,520
aging plant in Inisville,
etc., etc.

588
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:40,319
We've got some good information here,
uh, balanced with some information that

589
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:44,240
says we still have a little bit more
work to do, i.e. with meter replacement

590
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:48,359
and everything else. Essentially, my
question is, are we close? At what point

591
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:54,880
does the CEO think we'll be in a
position to do a excuse me,

592
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:59,280
comprehensive third party uh, utility
rate analysis, which I think would be

593
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,400
very beneficial for our residents, help
answer maybe some questions, and

594
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,079
probably help us going forward with our
budgets. Thanks.

595
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,079
Good question. It's something that Dr.
Pedro and I have spoken of fairly

596
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:16,000
recently. So perhaps Adrian, I'll let
you take a stab at this and I if it's a

597
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:24,200
really good idea, I'll agree with you
and then uh not we'll we'll move on. For

598
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:29,319
sure. Um I think in in principle uh rate
reviews are a good idea. Uh typically we

599
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:34,480
would like to see them done every 3 to 5
years and as I'm I'm sure you're aware

600
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:39,040
they're quite involved. So we do look at
everything from you know fixed rate

601
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:46,240
versus variable rates. What are what are
our costs? Um we do try and fund

602
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:51,520
utilities to utility rates to pay for
the utility costs themselves as well as

603
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:55,280
maintaining those utilities. Um and I
don't believe one has a comprehensive

604
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:02,000
review has been done in the town
recently. So I think it's likely due.

605
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:07,359
Um, however, it is a bit of a it's a
timeconsuming undertaking. So, depending

606
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:12,559
on timing, I suppose we could start it
at some point this year. Um, it does

607
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:18,000
take some time. That being said, I I
would be curious to determine what what

608
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:23,359
the goal is, I guess, based on kind of
your your comment earlier. So, are we

609
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:30,240
looking to see whether we're too low or
too high or just some feedback there?

610
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:35,480
I I think yeah, as to whether we're too
low or too high, I'm not sure. I do know

611
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:39,119
a lot of questions from
residents around our rates. And so I

612
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:44,319
guess to that point, maybe that is the
answer. Residents feel our rates are

613
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:48,559
high. Um and yeah, it'd be interesting
to see like you referenced the fixed

614
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:53,200
versus variable analysis and split
there. I think it would just go a long

615
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:59,760
way to helping our residents u
understand the rates that we have. um

616
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:05,040
perhaps justify them um and maybe we
find that there's dare I say our rates

617
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:09,520
should be higher. I don't know. Don't
put that in the paper. But

618
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:16,160
um you know it would be a justification
I think and a good analysis around a v

619
00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:21,200
variety of areas to help uh satisfy
residents around where are our rates are

620
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:24,920
we comparable and why are they set at
the rate they are.

621
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:33,520
you. We have uh Deputy Mayor Blatz and
then Councelor Cummings. Uh thank you,

622
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:37,680
Mayor Dolan, through you to either Se
Williams or Director Pedro. Going a

623
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:42,800
little further along with what councelor
Wilson has has asked for during this

624
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,960
analysis or during this third party
review, would they be able to to

625
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:53,119
determine whether all other utility
companies are 100% cost recovery as we

626
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:57,040
are or would it determine if some of
those other

627
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:03,359
um towns or municipalities are
supplementing with the tax with their

628
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:09,040
taxes? So would that study incorporate
that or is that a question we can ask of

629
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:13,119
the the study?
Yep, absolutely. That could be included

630
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,839
in in the scope. Normally they would
look at comparators on a high level, but

631
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:21,760
to get into that detail is certainly
pertinent. Well, I think that would be

632
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:26,640
more valuable because I know it's very
hard for us to justify because we're

633
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:33,119
100% cost recovery whereas I can't tell
you whether or not Inisville or you know

634
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:39,280
Bowden or or Lome supplement the utility
use with their taxes.

635
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:45,040
Absolutely. Yeah. And I'll I'll add to
that as well. Um, not not that I have

636
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,440
done one personally, but the ones I've
read, I've never seen a rate reduction

637
00:52:47,559 --> 00:52:55,200
recommended. Whether it's the city of
Calgary last summer and the water main

638
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:59,040
break that was um, Shawn there or what
we're dealing with here or anywhere I

639
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:02,880
think in Canada, dare you say, local
governments are dealing with decades of

640
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:07,440
infrastructure deficits pushed to the
current day where you have critical

641
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,640
systems failing. So even cost recovery,
I believe we're we're close to cost

642
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:16,119
recovery on the operating of a utility
system. We are woefully underfunding the

643
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:19,359
capital replacement. So
um when you ask a consultant, the

644
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:24,960
consultant will do what you want the
consultant to do in such a report. If

645
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:30,640
council wants to recommendation on let's
say cost recovery in terms of capital

646
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:35,280
renewal expenses, that is a precipitous
increase in in rates. But for the

647
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:40,240
operating, I think that's a very
valuable exercise just to ensure that

648
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:44,000
our own budget matches with our own rate
model in terms of operating the system

649
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:49,359
and council can decide based on your
larger conversation around a reserve

650
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:56,720
strategy and taxation and other revenue
uh what the comfort level is. So,

651
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:59,920
councelor Cummings.
Thank you, Madam Mayor. Just a couple of

652
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:03,599
questions on the development permit
building permit process because I'm

653
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:08,079
often
interested more in the timeline of how

654
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:14,000
that process works. If we look at the
2024 development stats, there's a large

655
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:16,720
dwelling, multiple unit dwelling that
was approved in May, which I believe is

656
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:22,960
the apartment building that's going
behind A&W. And then we look almost a

657
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:26,960
year later at the building permits. Um,
sorry, later that year in August,

658
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:32,640
another large building permit was
issued, which I can only assume was that

659
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:37,280
building. And correct me if I'm not
mistaken, building permits have a

660
00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:41,760
one-year expiry rate. So when we issue a
building permit, they have one year to

661
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:48,000
complete or is it one year to start? I'm
not too sure how that works. And how

662
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:51,680
there obviously if it was issued in
August of last year and hasn't started

663
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:56,640
construction yet, it's not going to get
done by August of this year. how hard or

664
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,400
how difficult it would it be for the
developers to get extensions on those

665
00:54:58,319 --> 00:55:05,599
timelines to ensure that there's no real
delay in the process of constructing the

666
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:10,880
building once it's started.
Yeah. Uh fair question.

667
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:15,280
Um so for the development permit and
building permit there's a year. So

668
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:20,240
there's a timeline attached to both.
That being said, we do issue extensions

669
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:25,920
all the time. So it's not hard.
Generally you try to limit the amount of

670
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,920
extensions. Um, but it is common
practice.

671
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:36,000
Thank you very
much. Oh, is it supplemental? Go ahead.

672
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:40,240
We'll go with council companies and then
back to councelor Wilson. I'm learning

673
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:44,880
supplementaries from councelor Wilson.
So, uh, can you just explain what a

674
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:48,720
negative one building permit means
because I've never seen a negative in

675
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:52,680
the building permits before and that
kind of threw me for a loop.

676
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,799
That's a great question. I was hoping
someone would catch that. Um, so

677
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:06,000
essentially what happened, there's one
property that went from a dup being a

678
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:09,880
duplex to a single family home. So,
hence the negative one.

679
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Ahead, councelor Wilson. Thank you,
Mayor Don. Threw you to the CEO. Just a

680
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,799
short snap question here. Uh,
supplemental to the utility rate

681
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:23,920
analysis. Just want to make sure I
understand. So um one of the things I

682
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:28,960
was conscious of relative to a rate
analysis we want to achieve some level

683
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:33,040
of stability in our operation and and we
are having progress uh which is great

684
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,119
but so I just want to make sure I
understand. So there there would be

685
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:42,000
nothing to stop us from proceeding with
the utility rate analysis perhaps in the

686
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:46,960
second half of this year other than
maybe some budgeted funds to which I

687
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:53,440
could initiate a GoFundMe page I guess
to try and pay for that.

688
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:58,640
I have a 20 actually I I'll be the first
one. Um technically you're correct but

689
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,559
as we discussed on this topic before um
our

690
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:06,720
current utility rates they do factor in
the water loss and INI costs which I

691
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:14,240
have ballparked in the past between 20
and 25% of the overall rates we charge.

692
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:18,799
Um it's I just see that as as skewing
whatever analysis is done until that's

693
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:24,319
more under control. But if council's
comfortable, let's I would say budget

694
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:28,880
2026 is the is the best time instead of
right now um with the progress being

695
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:35,200
achieved then sure I would I would
totally support that. The other thing

696
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:39,440
that adds to it um olds is one of the
you know growing list but still not in

697
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,760
the majority. We're on service
commissions at both end of water and

698
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:48,319
wastewater. Both of those commissions
have some substantial challenges. um

699
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:52,799
water with the water commission with
obviously uh decaying infrastructure and

700
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:57,839
the the significant rate increases we've
seen the last at least in this year and

701
00:57:55,839 --> 00:58:02,079
SRD the wastewater commission with you
know what has been in the paper and

702
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:09,119
they're trying to figure out their $250
million capital liability. Um so we

703
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:12,640
don't have a clear picture of anything
outside of our fence. So that that's

704
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:16,559
another thing council to be aware of
that though we're very we're at the

705
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:21,280
whims of those the health of those
commissions unlike you know missalis to

706
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:25,359
our immediate south that have lagoon
systems where I ini is not that big of

707
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:29,359
an issue for them because they discharge
into a pond whereas we send ours to

708
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:34,720
redear it's and their capital
obligations are very different than

709
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:38,040
ours. So, probably a bit longwinded, but
what

710
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:43,280
is up to
council to determine when to pull that

711
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:49,200
trigger and I think we're getting close
to that point. Sure.

712
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Councelor Ryan.
Thank you, Mal through you to uh

713
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,680
director Peter. Um I was just wondering
uh this is just a comment, not a

714
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:04,079
question really, but on the water loss
at Ali, you've got 2025. I was wondering

715
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:08,960
could we um could we get that stat done
for 2024 as a comparison because that

716
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:13,040
would really show us you know I know
you're showing the charts later on but

717
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:19,040
not the dollar value. So, it'd be really
interesting to see if you have the stats

718
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:23,119
available to see a 2024 comparison for
January, February, March, April, because

719
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:28,400
then you would really get a really clear
picture of how we're doing and all the

720
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:33,839
processes that we're what what we're
doing in our utilities area um and in

721
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:38,000
addressing this issue because it is a
costly issue for our community and it

722
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:44,240
would be really interested to see the
the stats in comparison if that's

723
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:50,000
possible. Just a comment. Yeah. Uh for
for sure we do track all of that

724
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:54,920
information. Uh just for clarity, so are
we seeing on this chart to provide 2024

725
00:59:54,160 --> 01:00:01,200
and
2025 for cubic meters and percentage and

726
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:04,559
dollar value? Well, I'd like to see all
three things that you're tracking here.

727
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:09,200
Your your meters squared and your
percentage and or it's not squared, but

728
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:14,480
three uh and your dollar value. if all
of that can be duplicated to show the

729
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:18,480
2024 what we had in those months, you
know, so that your next report would

730
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:22,720
include your May, June, July, maybe
August, depending on when you're doing

731
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:27,200
your report. We would be able to see in
comparison to

732
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:32,680
2024, what was it in those areas?
Because that way we would get a true

733
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:39,839
picture of how our what we're doing is
mitigating this uh this issue.

734
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:44,640
For sure. Yeah, we can show it that way.
That's a good suggestion. Yeah. Any

735
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:50,559
mayor?
No, he director Pedro basically answered

736
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:54,280
what I was going to suggest that if even
if we didn't do it month by month, if we

737
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:58,319
had the entire year that showed each
month on the bottom, such as we do with

738
01:00:56,799 --> 01:01:01,520
the bu the development and the building
permits, that might be useful to

739
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:05,000
council, too, if you can't break it out
month by month.

740
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:11,839
Sorry. whatever way is is workable. I
mean, I don't know what your stats are

741
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:17,119
available if you could just pull them up
or not, but it would be really good

742
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:21,599
compar to see a comparison.
Very good. I think everyone's had their

743
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:26,880
round of questions with you. Did you
have a closing comment at all, Director

744
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Pedo Prager? Very good. Thank you very
much for your time and I'd entertain a

745
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:36,160
motion. Councelor Dailyaly. Thank you,
Mayor D. I move that council accepts the

746
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:41,599
infrastructure services quarterly report
as presented for information.

747
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:47,400
Thank you. I will then call for the
vote. Those in favor? That is

748
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:54,319
carried. Once again,
thanks. We'll move right along now to

749
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:58,960
item 5A, please. Page 41 of your agenda,
Mountain View Seniors Housing

750
01:01:55,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Sponsorship Request. It's in your
package. You've read it. And so I will

751
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:07,359
go straight to the
motion. Yes, I'll go with Deputy Mayor.

752
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:12,559
Thank you, Mayor Doll. I move that
council approve a one-time sponsorship

753
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:18,319
in the amount of $2,000 for the 2025
15th annual Golf Classic in support of

754
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,319
Mountain View Seniors

755
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:25,599
Housing. Thank you, Deputy Mayor Blat.
Does council have any questions with

756
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:25,599
regards to the

757
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:34,160
motion? Seeing none, then I'll call the
vote. Those in favor that is

758
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:42,640
carried. The information sharing was
wonderful. So, and it's a good cause.

759
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:47,160
And we're moving down to page 52 now of
the

760
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:52,880
agenda. 6A correspondence and
information. We have one correspondence

761
01:02:50,000 --> 01:03:00,720
and we information. This is the Canadian
Association of M Municipal

762
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:06,160
Administrators and our very own CEO, Mr.
Brent Williams, got a long service

763
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:12,400
recognition award and I would ask if all
council could meet and we are going to

764
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:17,839
get a photo with CO Williams and I
believe Shila's asked

765
01:03:15,319 --> 01:03:21,920
for communications to come in. So, if we
could just where would you like us to

766
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:26,799
stand? In front of the flags or at the
back? Madame Mayor, would it be better

767
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:29,680
to do that at the end of the meeting? We
can just plow through the last couple of

768
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:35,440
items and then do the photo together
after the meeting. Thank we can

769
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:41,880
certainly do that. All right. Does
anybody have any questions then to the

770
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:46,160
correspondence? I'd like a motion,
please. Councelor Wilson. Thank you,

771
01:03:44,319 --> 01:03:50,319
Mayor Doll. I make the motion that the
correspondence and information report

772
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:54,960
ending June 9th, 2025 be received for
information.

773
01:03:52,559 --> 01:04:01,760
Thank you. I will now call for the
motion or for the votes. Sorry. Those in

774
01:03:58,119 --> 01:04:04,400
favor? That's carried. We'll move down
to page

775
01:04:05,079 --> 01:04:15,680
54. And this is our CEO Williams chief
administrative officer report.

776
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:23,200
Thank you, Mayor Dal. Two items in the
report and just one brief verbal update.

777
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:31,760
So, report a problem data from the last
30 days is highlighted here. Um, as you

778
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:35,760
can see, parks has become the highest
one largely due to the naturalization

779
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:40,799
concerns shown by residents. And to
parse that out a bit more, we went

780
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:48,480
through the um well 39 total parks
complaints. I believe um 207 or 28 of

781
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:51,920
those were naturalization related from
21

782
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:56,000
individuals concerned about
naturalization and then what you heard

783
01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:01,839
from people at your coffee with council
session last week. Outside of that, back

784
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:06,559
alleys are also um coming up there. this
time of year we have um we have a

785
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:11,839
deficiency there in terms of a lot of
the drainage concerns and certainly

786
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:15,680
gravel cover. So our grading crew which
consists of a grader and a loader are

787
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:20,640
working on that the last few weeks and
even so

788
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:23,599
today. Um outside of that general road
issues and sidewalk issues which

789
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:28,559
hopefully be helped be mitigated with
the 2025 respective programs. On the

790
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,119
action items list the only two items on
there are the outstanding notice of

791
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:37,760
motions. the one for the animal shelter
due at the end of this month and then

792
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:42,720
the policy on ASP and ARP reviews which
will should be due July community the

793
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,400
whole no issues forthcoming there and
just a brief verbal update regarding the

794
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:50,119
olds fire department. You may have seen
on Facebook or from the updates I sent

795
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:54,720
you that we have been a part of
now three deployments. The most recent

796
01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:00,480
one happening over the weekend where we
sent one of our um chiefs up to the

797
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:04,240
Grand Prairie area. And kudos to the
fire department for always helping out

798
01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:09,319
in these times of need across the
province. But to tie it back into

799
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:14,400
council advocacy perhaps
um fire in

800
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:17,680
general, I think it's been almost 10
years, nine years since the Fort

801
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:21,920
McMurray wildfire, which kicked off, I
think, nine consecutive years of

802
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:25,920
significant wildfire issues in Alberta.
The province is still relying heavily on

803
01:06:23,839 --> 01:06:31,119
municipalities to provide these
services, oftentimes very far from their

804
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:37,000
home municipality, stretching their own
coverage. Um, and obviously we're happy

805
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:41,839
to help, but the lack of investment in
wildfire and firefighting capacity of

806
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:45,599
the province is is somewhat concerning
that uh it's stretching municipal

807
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:51,039
resources or relying so heavily on
there. At the same time, the province is

808
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:55,119
cutting our capital funding, which we
use to buy things like firet trucks and

809
01:06:53,599 --> 01:07:00,319
fire suppression equipment. At the same
time is asking us to do more. And at the

810
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:04,720
same time, they actually reduced the the
reimbursement rate they pay for fire

811
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:08,720
trucks about three years ago to go help
from uh what we call the Alberta

812
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:14,480
transportation rate. They established a
new uh wildfire uh mutual aid or

813
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,880
deployment rate, which is roughly 50% of
what it once was.

814
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:23,680
Um then the secondary issue which is not
related to that is the ongoing EMS

815
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:28,720
ambulance issues where our fire
department is responding to fortunately

816
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:33,200
not a significant increase but a growing
consistent increase in medical responses

817
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:37,440
again something that they're trained to
do and we're happy to do it but it's not

818
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:44,079
municipality's job to deliver health
care services and that's becoming more

819
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:47,760
and more commonplace in old and
certainly across the province.

820
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:51,680
without any reimbursement whatsoever. So
that's on property tax dollars because

821
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:56,400
of ambulance shortages. So it's
something to for council to be aware of

822
01:07:53,520 --> 01:08:00,079
and perhaps should you see fit to
discuss how it fits into advocacy

823
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:05,280
priorities with the upcoming uh
corporate plan review and what have you.

824
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:08,960
And with that my report is complete.
Thank you. Deputy mayor question. Yes.

825
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:13,520
It's sort of a question comment
combined. Um, going back to our reporter

826
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:18,759
problem and with the naturalization, I
was wondering if it would be um with

827
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:23,520
council's approval perhaps that this
naturalization comes back to our June

828
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:28,400
23rd council meeting for a full
discussion on it that the public can be

829
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:32,560
aware of the decisions and how and how
they were how they came about. You all

830
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:36,799
know my feelings on naturalization as
I'm one of the areas affected, but I do

831
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:42,400
believe that we should have had a
better, more wholesome discussion with

832
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:47,199
our residents and in hindsight 50/50 and
council that that aligns with council's

833
01:08:44,480 --> 01:08:51,040
strategic plan where we promise to
communicate and engage with our citizens

834
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:56,480
and I believe we could have done a much
better job as council. So therefore, I

835
01:08:53,359 --> 01:09:02,319
ask that maybe council would agree to
having this come back to our June 23rd

836
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:06,759
meeting.
Deputy mayor, I'll open the floor for

837
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:11,359
any comments from
council. Councelor Wilson. Thank you,

838
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:14,719
Mayor D. Yeah, I just I certainly
support the initiative. I think we owe

839
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:20,560
it to our residents. We certainly heard
loud and clear at the June 5th um coffee

840
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:25,440
with council. It was one of the better
attended sessions we've had and a very

841
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:31,040
passionate topic. So I think we owe it
to our residents um if in fact we do

842
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:35,759
have a discussion towards the end of
June some get something out to the

843
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:39,440
residents uh as to the plan going
forward staying the course if it's going

844
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:46,159
to change what does that change look
like? So I certainly support the u the

845
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:50,640
request for a meeting sooner than later.
Excuse me.

846
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:54,960
Thank you, councelor Daly.
Thank you, Mayor Doll. And I I agree

847
01:09:52,319 --> 01:10:01,199
that um we should have a more wholesome
discussion on the naturalization, but I

848
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:06,080
I also am wondering when and where would
we do like an openhouse information

849
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:10,320
session with the public because I heard
that loud and clear the other night as

850
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:14,480
well is that they they want this
information and they would like to have

851
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:20,159
their input on this information as well.
So, I'm just thinking aloud here where

852
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:23,360
where, how, and why all this is going to
fit together.

853
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:27,040
Well, I believe councelor Daly that if
we had this discussion on June 23rd,

854
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:31,840
then we could determine that and that
would give administration time to bring

855
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:35,840
this back to us with some information
and then therefore we can put it out and

856
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:40,080
determine from there because I know we
are going to discuss it again at our

857
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:43,600
July service level review. I think that
we need to get something out sooner than

858
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:48,480
later to our residents, particularly
those that are affected directly by the

859
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:53,760
naturalization and to make other
residents aware of of what the plan is

860
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:58,080
and how we are going to roll this plan
out.

861
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:04,159
Well, yeah, and I agree 100% with you,
but also what I heard at the coffee with

862
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:09,760
council was they want input. And so I
don't think that us discussing this

863
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:15,360
without their input first is going to
resolve the problem. I think we need to

864
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:19,360
um you know build a plan with their
input as well. No, I understand what

865
01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:23,120
you're saying, but I'm saying we could
get the information to come back to us.

866
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:27,840
Hopefully the media could pick up on
some of this as well. Make it aware that

867
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:32,719
we have listened to our residents that
we are cons hearing their concerns and

868
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:36,880
comments and that we are going to plan
something for them to be involved with

869
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:42,000
is what I want you to be the initial
step.

870
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:45,600
Thank you councelor Cummies. Thank you.
Thank you madame mayor. Uh, I'd be happy

871
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:51,120
to have a conversation about all of this
as well because it it makes sense coming

872
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,719
up to a service level review to adjust
our service levels as necessary because

873
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,960
when we talk service levels, we also
talk cost. And what I've responded to a

874
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:03,679
lot of citizens who complain about the
dandelions is very simple. Because we've

875
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:08,159
neglected other things for decades,
we're now neglecting dandelions to fix

876
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:12,719
our water and sewer and other more
important things than dandelions. And if

877
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:17,280
we have a wholesome discussion about
this like everybody's asking the

878
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:22,080
realities have to be placed out as well
as how many percentage points of

879
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:27,360
increase in tax rate will have to occur
to challenge the dandelion infestation

880
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:32,719
in our community and this natural
nationalization thing. A process has to

881
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:37,040
be developed first though before we
could just do one thing or the other.

882
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:41,120
That's when administration comes back at
the next regular council meeting with a

883
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:45,120
proposal on what process they would
recommend for us to follow to get

884
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:49,600
everybody's input that's needed so we
can have a correct conversation during

885
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:53,199
service level and we can make budget
adjustments as necessary. Unfortunately,

886
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:57,920
we can't increase our tax rate until
next year, right? So the where's the

887
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:03,120
money going to come from has to be a
major topic at any sort of discussions

888
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:06,679
we have and what other programs we're
going to stop spending money on in order

889
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:11,040
to tackle the
dandelions. That that that is the

890
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:15,440
reality of a discussion like that.
That's why we made that decision in the

891
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:20,800
first place to do naturalization because
we had that discussion at this council

892
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:24,719
table and we agreed in the budget to
change the service level to include

893
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:28,080
naturalization because of the budget
constraints that we're having and the

894
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:32,800
conversation I heard around this table
is we can't raise a tax rate any higher

895
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:35,600
than we did. So we had to cut services
and dandelions were one of those

896
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:40,560
services. So just a reminder to
everybody, we've had this conversation.

897
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:44,719
Regardless of how many people complain
about that conversation, they have to

898
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:48,800
fully understand the opposite side of
the conversation. And again, I don't

899
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,600
want to start stark a debate here. I
just want to make sure administration

900
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:55,679
knows all of the topics that will have
to come back at the next meeting so that

901
01:13:53,760 --> 01:14:00,159
we can have the proper discussion moving
forward. I don't want to have a debate

902
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:03,520
here. This back and forth, I've had my
say.

903
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:08,880
Thank you.
Well, I feel

904
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:13,600
um I enjoy the conversations we just had
around the con the table. We're all a

905
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:21,320
well um other than yourself that was at
uh on vacation in a way physically and

906
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:27,840
verbally live what everybody had to
say at the uh at the I'm going to say

907
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:34,320
table, however we were standing up and
and having a good engagement. Um, so I I

908
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:41,120
see and hear what you're saying,
councelor Cummings, about the idea of

909
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:46,320
handing this to to our CEO and having
them come up with something for the next

910
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:54,320
meeting. But I do understand that um
what uh Deputy Mayor Blatz is saying. Um

911
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:59,360
we all received information. I am sure
because typically I don't really receive

912
01:14:56,239 --> 01:15:04,960
a lot of information and feedback um
from a lot of these types of issues.

913
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:11,080
However, I received several and some
pretty deep ones where people actually

914
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:17,760
did mathematical figures on the use of
dandelines and um I shared it with our

915
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:24,040
CEO and we have incoming information
coming all the time. So I really feel

916
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:30,640
that if we're if we're asking everybody
to forward it to report a problem as our

917
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:34,800
CEO just shared with us that he's got so
many reports that I've received already.

918
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:40,640
I've added probably about three more
today. Um and if we continue that our

919
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:46,159
CEO will have something to work with for
us to talk about at at a meeting in

920
01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:50,239
June. Um that's just my thoughts. Um
it's ongoing. It seems to be everywhere.

921
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:54,880
If you're riding your bike or walking,
we're still getting it. And then we'll

922
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:58,480
be well prepared. I believe it was
councelor Ryan and then back to

923
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:03,440
councelor Wilson. Oh, thank you very
much, Mayor Dolan. I uh I I do find that

924
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:09,199
there's a need for this to come back
certainly for further discussion.

925
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:15,040
Um, you know, some of the questions that
I had received at Coffee with Council

926
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:19,960
included comments about dandelions,
noxious weeds, um, u mosquitoes, believe

927
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:26,400
it or not,
uh, being being more in the in the

928
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:33,600
taller taller grasses. Um, I think more
a clearer picture of the process of how

929
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:39,840
uh naturalization occurs is probably
what the community really needs. Um,

930
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:44,800
certainly when you take a look at um
I've I've been doing a lot of reading on

931
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:48,560
this lately. I I before coffee with
council I was I was obviously in in

932
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:53,199
Ottawa and I missed a lot of Facebook
postings and didn't get any phone calls

933
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:58,880
about it. But um I did do a lot of
reading about this so far and it does

934
01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:02,800
take a year or two for naturalization to
actually take a hold and actually look

935
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:08,080
good. And they do say the first couple
years it's going to not look good. And

936
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:13,440
certainly uh director Le Point when he
presented this uh also said to us that

937
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:17,840
that very thing. So sometimes a lot of
this will have to be you know

938
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:23,280
communication with our public. I I think
really what we what we lacked was the

939
01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:27,679
was going out and saying, you know, what
the process is going to be and certainly

940
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:30,640
telling our public that yeah, it's not
going to look nice in the first couple

941
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:36,560
years, but it's going to look great
later on. And um that's how I feel like

942
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:42,239
one from what I've read that's that's
what I've learned. Um and maybe we

943
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:47,280
jumped in this really quickly uh with
too many properties. uh may have should

944
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:51,440
have been a smaller pilot project um to
begin with, but I mean it's certainly

945
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:56,320
something we can debate and and have a
conversation with um in June 23rd at our

946
01:17:54,239 --> 01:18:00,159
next meeting. So, I'm in favor of
bringing this back.

947
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,040
Yes, Councelor Wilson. Thank you, M.
Yeah, just my brief comments I and I

948
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,800
agree with Councelor Cummings. I don't
think this is the time and the place for

949
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:13,120
the debate other than state some
opinions. And my last words before we

950
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:17,040
get into the uh the debate and
discussion down the road is one I think

951
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:23,239
we owe it to ourselves and our certainly
our citizens to take their feedback. Uh

952
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:27,679
CEO referenced I'm not sure 27 or 28
raps on naturalization from 21

953
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:31,760
individuals. Clearly the people are
speaking. Um there's a passion there's

954
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,840
an emotion out there. We owe it to them
to give them to acknowledge that

955
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:39,360
feedback. And what are we going to do?
Whether it's as councelor Cummings said,

956
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:43,520
we all had this discussion and we stay
the course or are we going to adjust?

957
01:18:42,159 --> 01:18:49,199
There's nothing wrong with taking the
feedback and adjusting the plan and its

958
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:52,800
execution. And uh again, I'm not going
to debate it, but I always hear well,

959
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:57,120
you know, if we're going to respond to
it, there's more tax increase. Well,

960
01:18:54,640 --> 01:19:01,679
there is another discussion. We all know
uh we're up against the wall physically,

961
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:07,679
and I use the, you know, physically as
an Fiscal Ly. uh as far as our

962
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:12,480
resources, but what can we trade off? Is
that even an option? So before we start

963
01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:16,560
talking about incremental tax, let's
also talk about what the trade-offs and

964
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:20,080
the rep prioritizations are knowing that
there isn't much wiggle room that we

965
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:24,480
have. So,
and also there's the passionate side of

966
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:29,679
the people and there were some very very
passionate people at the coffee with

967
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:36,960
council session at the farmers market
and and I do understand

968
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:42,480
um the biggest question that the most
passionate people had is how did you

969
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:46,960
determine the sites and that is
something that I really couldn't answer.

970
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:50,560
So, it is it does need a further
discussion. And I'll take one more

971
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:57,760
question. Councelor Ryan,
I have a comment um that is not related

972
01:19:53,600 --> 01:20:04,960
to that um with regards to the CEO's
um verbal report on the firefighters uh

973
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:09,040
situation. So um but before we move on,
I was going to ask Deputy Mayor Blast if

974
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:13,520
she wanted to make a motion for that to
come back to the council meeting for

975
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:19,920
June 23rd as a separate motion. Would
you? Um so we can put that a park that

976
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:25,840
aside but um I just have a comment with
regards to the wildfires if that's okay.

977
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:31,760
Um this is a this is a I agree totally
with what uh what C Williams had

978
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:38,560
mentioned with regards to uh the lack of
investment um in the wildfires and I

979
01:20:35,440 --> 01:20:44,000
think the province is moving towards uh
looking at this because there has been a

980
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:47,679
report from RMA did a report uh in
conjunction with the Alberta

981
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:53,199
municipalities and they had a lot of
input there's been um a group of but it

982
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:58,719
was established has been established
with firefighters uh from different

983
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:03,760
communities uh to to to further
investigate the wildfire situation and

984
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:08,719
create a man sort of a management board
of some kind. Um so I'm not sure whether

985
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:13,040
or not that and I've read that report
but I it was a couple of months ago and

986
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:17,400
uh it certainly came to our
infrastructure committee at the Alberta

987
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:23,040
Muny's um
um level I suppose you want to say. Um,

988
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:27,679
so I think that there is some movement
towards that. But I I do agree with what

989
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:31,440
you've said there, um, CEO Williams,
with regards to, you know, the the

990
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:37,199
cutting back, the reducing of the
capital funding to our communities at a

991
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:41,600
time when we are fighting wildfires. Um,
and we do need equipment. Uh, this is

992
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,760
the time to invest in our communities as
opposed to cutting back. And certainly,

993
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:51,280
I also agree with you with regards to
the EMS responses as well. And I think

994
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:56,480
um both of those have had resolutions
that have gone at Alberta Munis and

995
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:59,760
certainly um you know if we those are
always things that I can bring back to

996
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:04,320
the Alberta municipalities
infrastructure committee at our next

997
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:09,600
meeting to uh we we follow and we track
all the resolutions that have been made

998
01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:13,760
and um those and we look at what our
outcomes have been. So it's a it's

999
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:18,639
really well tracked and so something
that I can also bring up at our next

1000
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:23,199
board meeting. Thanks.
You're welcome. Uh, Deputy Mayor Blatz.

1001
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:28,080
Thank you, Mayor Dolan. My comment is
also relates to um sending our

1002
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:31,679
firefighters to remote areas. I think
one thing that many of our residents

1003
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:35,920
don't understand or realize that when
these individuals volunteer to go ahead,

1004
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:40,159
they're usually taking their own time or
vacation time from their job. And I

1005
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:45,280
think that that is um something that our
residents need to be aware and realize

1006
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:49,199
that you know they make a big commitment
not only to our own fire department but

1007
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:54,800
to another community. And I think that
uh you know thanks to those individuals

1008
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:59,800
who have gone so far um this year and
we'll probably be going more and more

1009
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,800
often.

1010
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:08,159
Yes. And to councelor Ryan's comment,
the um RMA did release the wildfire

1011
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:13,080
working group report in January of this
year. It was an RMA led initiative. It

1012
01:23:10,239 --> 01:23:17,679
did have some input from provincial
representatives and um largely a lot of

1013
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,520
the key recommendations came down to you
know funding more providing more

1014
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:26,000
resources for training for personnel and
for equipment and uh I think the

1015
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:31,040
certainly did a great job of framing the
issue. It's just whether the province

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acts on it because obviously
when when 360 municipalities are there

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or a percentage of that is able to
provide a backs stop it it's probably a

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01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:43,840
cheaper option but we're feeling the
crunch with the cost of our fire

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01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:48,400
apparatus which have doubled in the last
5 years and running a fire department

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without even responding to a call is a
very expensive proposition that I think

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:59,040
the province took a holistic view of how
we fund fire services and these

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01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,040
deployments it would help everyone out.

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Okay. Is there any further questions to
this uh item we're speaking to?

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Councelor Wilson. Thank you, Mal. I I
have a question, but not specific to

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naturalization or anything. So, if I
allow a little bit of latitude and at

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the appropriate time, I would like to
ask a question of the CEO. This is the

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CEO report. Please do.
Thank you. So, as I said, it doesn't

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relate directly to the CRO report, but I
would like to based on some feedback

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01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:34,000
I've received in the community, not
related to naturalization. The CEO could

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just comment. So, I think in May we went
down a path of enforcing the temporary

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sign bylaw. Um, which is fine. We have
the bylaw, we enforce it. Um, I'm just

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wondering kind of two questions. Was
there anything in particular that drove

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that enforcement, that decision to to
enforce the bylaw that's there? And

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equally, if not more important, what can
businesses, individuals in town do?

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What's the best way to convey their um
their thoughts, their feelings, the

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impact this would have on their business
with the temporary sign bylaw? Is that

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the LUB engagement that land use bylaw
engagement that's going to be coming up

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or something else? Thank you.
Right. Uh, so some background if you're

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unsure what council Wilson speaking of,
some letters were issued earlier this

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spring to um businesses mainly along um
highway 27 that had temporary signs in

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place. If you're aware of schedule D of
the land use bylaw deals with temporary

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01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:35,760
signage and it's I believe there's a
period of let's say 90 days if I had to

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01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:40,560
pick something that you may have a
temporary sign erected a commercial

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property. So, what drove that outside of
us just enforcing council's bylaw, the

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rules you give us, we tend to enforce
them as best we can. Um, when people

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apply for temporary signage, uh, we've
been, um, temporary beyond the 90 days.

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We've been denying them that because
they were applied more for permanent

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signage, which goes against council's
um, land use bylaw. But then they

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brought up correctly. So, well, why does
so and so business and this business and

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that business have these signs here that
have been there for, you know, many

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years? And we said, "Good point." So we
started investigating and found that,

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you know, a lot of these signs that are
movable in nature, temporary billboards

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are the best example, in fact went
against council's land use bylaw. But

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there was so there has been um a lot of
feedback given. What we have decided to

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do administratively is to hold off on
enforcement actions until December 1st

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is our current tentative date in this
which case bylaw review which is going

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01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:47,520
to kick off officially with council on
June 23rd and then um initially in early

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01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:51,159
July in time for your your second coffee
with council session on July 10th and

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throughout the summer led by the
consultant. Um that will be an

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opportunity for the entire land use
bylaw to be engaged upon of which

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01:26:58,159 --> 01:27:06,560
schedule D temporary signage is part of
that to review. Um so is there anything

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um and so those those people those
complaintants have been told December

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1st is is now kind of our our date until
we push things after the review. um and

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council can decide at at the time when
the land use bylaw is coming to you for

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um first, second, and finally third
reading whether that schedule meets its

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intent. And I'm assuming it's a balance
act. You don't want Highway 27 that look

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like a cheap Las Vegas um billboard
club, but also you want to make sure

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businesses are, you know, we we're
understanding that a lot of businesses

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that are financial strain and can't
afford maybe um expensive signs or

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permanent signage and what that balance
looks like. But right now, we are

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enforcing the rules that council has in
the bylaw, but the bylaw is 25 years old

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and hasn't been reviewed since that
time. So, I think it's opportunity if

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nothing else.
Go ahead, councelor Wilson. Thank you.

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I'll be very brief. I I thank
administration for that concession, that

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pause, because I did I haven't had a lot
of businesses, but I have had three

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businesses in the last month talk to me
about the implications of enforcing that

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bylaw and what it does to them because
the existing temporary sign is very

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coste effective for the businesses to
advertise. So, I I appreciate the

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leniency there and for sure we'll look
forward to the le discussion. Thanks.

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Very good. Is there any more questions
towards the CAO report?

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I'd ask for a motion,
please. Deputy Mayor

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Blatz. Thank you, Mayor Doll. I move
that the seat chief administrative

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officer report be accepted for
information. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. I

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will now call for the vote. Those in
favor that is

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carried. We have Deputy Mayor Blast
would, I believe, like to make another

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motion here. Thank you, Mayor Doll. I
would like to move that council direct

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our our CEO to bring back to the June
23rd, 2025 council meeting a discussion

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on the naturalization processes and how
we will move forward tentatively in the

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future with this process.

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Thank you. Can you please provide that
motion to the recording clerk? Yes, I

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will. Thank you. Are there any questions
towards the

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motion? I will call for the vote. Those
in

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01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:36,719
favor that is carried. Thank you. And
Shila, she'll prov uh deputy mayor will

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provide you that motion. Very good.
And our last item of the day, page

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57, is a notice of motion from councelor
Cummings on a proposed bylaw regulating

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the affixing of signs to town property.
We do not need a motion for this.

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However, I would give the opportunity to
councelor Cummings if he wishes to speak

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01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:01,600
to this.
Well, thank you, Madam Mayor. I don't

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think I need to speak on it. It's the
document I provided in the agenda does

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cover the gist of everything. I do have
a presentation prepared for next agend

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or next council meeting that this will
be presented at hopefully uh that goes

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into more details and even has some
sample signage that has been located

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throughout town over the last few
months.

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Very good. Thank you, Councelor
Cummings. Does anyone have

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questions? Yes, Deputy Mayor Blatz.
Thank you, Mayor Dolan. Through you,

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too, CO Williams, would this be
incorporated already with the land use

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bylaw review that we're doing?

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Uh short answer is yes. Schedule D does
touch on all temporary signage. Um but I

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believe as part of um some information
and I'll talk to councelor Cummings

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later this week. Uh we'll prepare kind
of what um exists already and perhaps a

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little response on on how to word it if
the proposed bylaw or motion should

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council go to proceed. Long answer,
shorter. Yes. We believe the lenses

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01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:12,360
bylaw already deals with this matter in
some form.

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Go ahead. Go ahead, Deputy Mayor Blast.
Well, this is not really supplemental,

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01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:21,920
so maybe I will open it up to other
council first if someone else has a

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01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:26,560
comment, but if I could be put in the
queue. Thanks. Okay, we'll move over to

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councelor Wilson. Thank you, Mayor Doll.
Yeah. And just very briefly, I think

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councelor Cummings alluded to he has
some evidence pictures I guess because

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that was the one question I had. Are we
trying to

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um solve a problem that doesn't exist or
are we being proactive um in terms of

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addressing point of order? Yes. Thanks.
So I understand this is a notice of

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motion and is not debatable. So the
conversation like you're having right

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01:31:52,719 --> 01:31:58,000
now would be at the next meeting where
we'd have this sort of conversation

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about the motion and stuff like that.
But a notice of motion is not something

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that can be debated or discussed just
presented and then next meeting it's on

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01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:12,719
the agenda. That's when conversations
are but we're not allowed to debate or

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01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:17,520
discuss this at this time. For catching
that I was just going to note that

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unfortunately that he is correct. Um the
full debate will be done at the next

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regular council meeting. All right.
Thank you for your um comment. And did

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you have something Deputy Mayor Blatz?
You said you would want to be Well, I

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01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:34,960
was going to ask one Well, I was going
to ask one more question of CA Williams,

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01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:40,800
but no, I I'll take note of of Councelor
Cummings remarks and I'll wait till if

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this gets passed till the next debate.
Correct. There's no motion and no debate

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on a notice of motion. So, hearing that,
I'd like to remind council to please

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:54,000
stay back and we will have a photo. And
I want to thank everybody in the gallery

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and all our viewers for spending time
with us this afternoon. I adjourn the

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meeting at 2:33