Oops. Okay. I'd like to call the meeting to
order. What we have this evening first is our public meeting and I'd advise
that meeting video recorded and live streamed. I ask if there's a conflict of
interest. Thank you.
As there is none, we have a resolution moved and seconded
to adopt the agenda as presented. Anything to be added?
Nothing. All in favor?
Pass? The next item is uh our public meeting
and the clerk will first read the procedures for the public meeting.
Please.
» This is a public meeting to consider subdivision applications
under bylaw 182023 subdivision applications public input
policy. Municipal Volvo bylaw 182023 requires a public meeting be held for
any subdivision application to receive input including comments and questions
from the public. Responses to comments and questions and answers to questions
may be provided at the meeting if the requisite information is available.
Public input from the meeting will be reviewed and addressed in a planning
report at a subsequent council meeting. Please note this public meeting is held
pursuant to bylaw 182023 and not the Ontario's planning act. On November
28th, 2022, the provincial government removed the requirement for public
meetings on subdivision applications and eliminated thirdparty appeal rights of
decisions on subdivision applications. Therefore, any third party making an
oral or written submission to the municipality of Olive Branch is not
entitled to appeal the decision of the municipality of Olive Branch to the
Ontario Land Tribunal. >> Thank you. Um our application this
evening is application number SD03-2026 on behalf of 1974862 Ontario Inc. Gino
Gregario is and it is for approval of an industrial plan of subdivision. The plan
includes nine light industrial lots along the proposed C cooper road
extension currently accessed from an entrance at 94 private road. The
planning board would please read their copy their report.
» Thank you. Um, in 2022, an application for a 17 lot subdivision was submitted
to the municipality on this same property. At that time, a public meeting
was held. Recommendations and requests from council were made, but the the
developer did not follow up until years later with this new nine lot plan of
subdivision. Um, so our official plan designation of the subject property is
industrial and environmental protection. The proposed nine lot industrial, sorry,
the nine industrial lots are entirely outside of the EP designation. So only
the industrial design the industrial designation was reviewed per the
official plan. It is the intention of the industrial designation to support
the municipality's existing industrial base by providing lands for industrial
growth. Minimize the impacts of industrial areas on surrounding areas
particularly in sensitive land uses and on the natural environment and guide the
location of new industrial uses and industrial redevelopment within the
municipality. The zoning bylaw uh zones the subject property both heavy
industrial, rural, and light industrial. The portion of the property subject to
the proposed subdivision is entirely within the light industrial zone. No
changes are required to the zoning bylaw to accommodate this sub subdivision. For
information, permitted uses within the light industrial zone include accessory
retail outlets and offices, airport, automobile body repair shop, automobile
service station, bulk sales establishment, carpentry shop,
commercial garage, communication towers exceeding 30 m in height, contractor's
yard, equipment sales and service dealership, gas bar, hydro distribution
or generating generating station, um industry light, light industrial
workshop, machine shop, marijuana grow facility, merchandise base repair
establishment, petty trade, pre prefabricated shipping containers,
public works yard, railway yard, retail lumber yard, sewage treatment plant,
vehicle repair shop, vehicle storage yard, warehouse, water treatment plant,
and welder shop. Um, so the land use policies for land
development. Um, the size and topography of the property being 68.92 hectares or
170.3 acres is appropriate to support industrial development. The lot frontage
and size have been reviewed to ensure they are sufficient to support the light
industrial land uses. Subject property is located within an area designated for
industrial development. Lot 9 may need to be altered to accommodate a required
culde-sac at the end of the Cooper Road extension. No development shall be
permitted unless it can be shown to the satisfaction of the municipality that
there is an adequate water supply, availability of se uh private septic
systems, and public road access to service the development. The owner will
be required to enter into a subdivision agreement to be registered on title
setting out municipal requirements for road and utilities. An environmental
impact study was prepared by Northrock dated September 21st, 2022 and a
hydrogeeological evaluation was completed by Harden Environmental
Services dated November 9th, 2024. Um both of these studies are on our website
um with 2026 updates to accommodate uh the new proposal. Um, so the new
development will be accessed from the approved CO uh Cooper Road South
extension. No additional new roads are proposed. This type of industrial
development will rely on private sewer and water systems constructed through to
the requirements of the MECP and the Thunder Bay District Health Unit. Um, so
eight of the nine lots within the proposed subdivision proposed to have 60
mters of frontage with an area of 1.1 hectares. The ninth lot proposes to have
156.3 m of frontage with a total area of 2.1 hectares. In all cases, the lot
sizes and frontages indicated in the draft plan of subdivision meet the
minimum requirements of the light industrial zone.
[clears throat] There are presently no hydro or
telephone utilities on the subject property. These services would need to
be extended at the cost of the developer as a condition of approval. Um the
subject property again is presently accessed through um Vibrant Road the but
the proposed nine lots will be accessed via the Cooper road extension um which
would be or is a municipally owned road. Um the planning act requires every
planning act decision be consistent with the provincial planning statement. The
PPS supports growth, economic development and the best use of the
lands. Um section 2.5 for rural areas and municipalities. Um section 2.8 8
employment and section 3.5 land use compatibility all speak to how and where
to incorporate industrial uses, how municipalities need to create and
consider employment when reviewing applications and how compatible the area
is subject to the applications. Um so again both the environmental and
hydrogeeological studies were already completed with no concerns for the
development to move forward. Um, we received agency comments from the
Lakehead Region Conservation Authority, the Red Sky Matei Independent Nation,
and the Ministry of Mines, all stating no concerns. Um, so after our initial
review, um, the proposed subdivision, there has no glaring planning issues at
this time. >> Thank you. Were there any other uh
submissions from supporters or objectors?
» Uh, no. >> Nope. Thank you. Uh, would the applicant
like to make any comments further than to what's been read?
No. No. Okay, that's fine. Uh, I'm going to ask if there's any supporters in the
audience. Any objectors?
As there is none, is council have any further questions of the planner in
regards to this application? No. Councelor Peacock.
» Thank you. Um, the application still indicates that it's nebing township.
» Yeah, it is. And it also doesn't indicate on page one of the application
that the application has been completed. Um there's no date on that. So
» when the notice goes out, it says at the top that it's a complete application.
» Okay. Now, is there concern for Brownfield at
all? because the applicant says that there's
no brownfield, but your report speaks to brownfield.
My report quotes the official plan, which has to speak to brownfield, but
this site itself does not. >> That's all um verbatim from the official
plan. I have to put that in there because it's the industrial designation.
» Okay. >> It it's irrelevant to this property.
» All right. And as far as the road, we've accepted the road.
» We accepted it through the um subdivision in 2023.
» Okay. >> Mhm.
» But it's not in yet or >> No, it's not. Once it's up to standard,
we will complete that. >> Okay. And it's um it's the the other
applicant that is putting the road in, not us. Correct.
» That's correct. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
» Any further questions? As there is none, um we will be reviewing this uh
application at a further date or is it in today?
» No, it'll be at a future meeting. Okay. So, I have a resolution moved and second
to adjourn this planning meeting. Uh the time being
5:10 p.m. All in favor? Okay. Then we will continue with our
council meeting agenda.
I will call the meeting to order and advise that the meeting is being video
recorded and live streamed. I ask if there's a disclosure of interest.
As there is none, I have a a resolution to adopt the agenda as presented. It's
been moved and seconded. Any further additions?
All in favor? Opposed? Carried. The first item we have this evening is the
presentation of our 2025 audited financial statements. And uh I see
Rosy's here. So if you'd like to come forward,
we have a copy of the budget on our desks.
Okay, it's all yours very much. >> Thank you for coming this evening.
» Thank you very much.
I do apologize for the not getting you the financial statements in advance. We
were dealing with a few technical difficulties with your new chart of
accounts and our new financial statement preparation package that created some
flexity for us. So my apologies and certainly I realize this will looking at
it happy to come back and respond to any questions that we arise after.
uh taking a look at the the first page that I uh after the title page. This is
administr
to all of you about this and appreciate to listen to speak to it. But again,
this will be signed um by your CEO and your friend, your deputy um and attached
to the final.
Taking a look at your independent fatherhood report which is on page one
of the statements we will know some qualified audit. Um so second paragraph
just in our opinion it's fairly present fairly non material
respects and consolidated finance of the municipality of alder December 1st of
8.5 results of chief
cash for the year then
you recall last year we did some qualification and finance
by virtue of the fact that um we're a year later in adopting retirement
obligations. Right now this that paragraph has been
removed. We are just waiting not just for your but others that were in
office us one more qualification.
We are of the opinion that we are but once we get that okay then I will
persuet
31st looking at your total financial that's
just over 12 million
You'll see that the biggest frustration in your
cash million dollars.
I know I'm not explaining anything don't already know, but you have you have a
very significant job as a result of the
$5 million >> higher than what you have budgeted for.
So um that has translated into cash in your cash accounts year end and I
understand investments. sub
that is your your biggest uh increase. Uh we do see a slight decrease inable
at the end of the year
balances and and your accounts receivable are down.
That's just a function of them. So you had some
see that
it's just
looking at your liabilities at year end your liabilities 5 million
dollars and you'll see the the most signuation
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the light is try any volume cominguation.
» No. >> Yeah. Try that one, please. Okay.
» Is that better? Oh, I can hear myself now. Okay.
Um, taking a look at your liabilities, your accounts payable and acred
liabilities at year end, $1.2 million compared to $768,000
last year. That's primarily due to ambulance and police uh Q4 levies
payable at year end. They were paid subsequent to year end. So, that
amounted to about $700,000. and then just your trade accounts
payable um of just under $300,000 and some holdbacks on some of the capital
work that you did. Um as well you'll see your deferred
revenue balances did go down um just by virtue of using your funds this year for
roads work. Um you'll see that what's left there is uh Parkland um your
Parkland reserve fund which has to be disclosed as a deferred revenue uh by
virtue of the accounting framework. And then your asset retirement
obligation has just gone up slightly due to the accretion expense. Your liability
will continue to grow as you get closer to when you have to remediate the
landfill and your asbestous um in the building. And then um your debt
repayment reduced your long-term debt. So, your net financial assets at the end
of the year, $8.5 million. Taking a look at your non-financial
assets, um your significant increase to your tangible capital assets in the
year, $38.8 million netbook value at year end. So, you had uh just under $5
million in additions this year. Um $2 million in roads work. Um, you acquired
a a cat loader, compressor for Norwest Wreck, a plow truck, fire trucks, and uh
work done to the water treatment system. So, a lot of capital this year for the
municipality. Um, so $4.7 million in additions. And
then your amortization expense was $2.6 million.
So, your total accumulated surplus at the end of the year, $47.3 million. When
we get to the schedule, we can see the breakdown of that.
Page four is the statement of consolidated, excuse me, the
consolidated statement of operations and accumulated surplus. And I'll speak to
the the center column, which are your 2025 actual results.
So, your total revenue for the year, $18.9 million um as compared to a budget
of $14.4 million. And really the the increase uh all
almost all of that increase is due to the landfill tipping fees um from Stuart
Olsen uh in the year. So um you did have um you'll notice a slight variance from
your government in your government transfers from the province of Ontario,
$2.5 million budgeted, $2.1 million actual, and that's just a result of
projects that uh didn't take place.
Looking at your operating expenses, 13.17
million for the year as compared to a budget of 13.158.
So your operating expenses were very close to budget. You will see a few
lines where there's u perhaps a bit of a higher variance um than than the budget.
Um your protection of persons and property $2.2 million budgeted, $2.484
million actual. That's most of that is a result of the police um levy being
slightly higher than what you'd budgeted for, about $170,000 higher. Included in
that was uh the a levy for a new vehicle. So a bit unusual from your
regular operating expenses. And then looking at health services, uh
a million81 budgeted, $900,000 actual. um that is lower than budget um just as
a result of a an adjustment that was made for an old there was an old quite
an aged accounts payable to uh Superior North EMS that had not been cleared out.
Um it had been paid but not been cleared out of the account. So that reduced your
expense in the current year. We cleaned that up. Um and that has reduced your
expense. Otherwise it would have been at your budgeted amount. Okay.
Um so your net revenue before uh the loss on disposal of tangible capital
assets in the year $5.8 million and then you had a small loss on the
disposal of your tangible capital assets and you had quite a number of disposals
because you were replacing the equipment. So you disposed of a cat
loader, plow truck, a fire rescue truck and a sander in the year.
Um, so when we take that loss into account, your annual surplus for the
year, $5.8 million. We add that to your accumulated surplus at the beginning of
the year of $41.5 million, and that gets us your accumulated surplus at the end
of the year of $47.3 million.
The next page is the statement of changes in net financial assets. So what
this schedule is really doing is um taking your annual surplus that we just
saw and reconciling to the net financial asset figure uh which is on your
statement of financial position. Um and your net financial assets just represent
your financial assets less your financial liabilities at year end.
And page six is the consolidated statement of cash flows. So this
provides you with information uh about the sources and uses of cash uh for the
municipality in the year. Um and again you will see that your cash provided by
operations which is the line sort of in the middle uh of the page $9.6 million
significantly higher than what we normally see um because of the
additional tipping fees in the year. And that cash, that positive cash was used
to acquire your tangible capital assets. That's the biggest use of your cash each
year, $4.7 million. Um, and then gives you an overall
increase in cash for the year of just over $5 million.
The next number of pages um represent the notes to the financial statements.
And um I certainly won't read you through all of the notes uh but note one
provi provides you with information about the accounting policies used in
the preparation of the financial statements.
Um I will take you to note number five deferred revenue which is on page 13.
So this gives you a breakdown of um what makes up your deferred revenue balances
which are which represents cash received uh funding received with external
restrictions that has not been used for uh the purpose that it's been provided
to you as of yet will be used in the future. So right at the moment um your
parkland um reserve fun recreational purposes make up most of that balance.
In the other category, most of that uh represents unapplied tax receipts. So,
you've received funds, they just haven't been um applied to to uh rateayers tax
bills. So, that's a deferred revenue as well.
Note number eight on the next page just provides you with a breakdown of um your
future dementure payments uh for the ambulance base or the principal portion
of your debenture payments for the ambulance base and lets the users know
that um there is an agreement um whereby your the rent uh payments
received help offset those payments.
Note number nine on page 15 was a new note last year. So this is your asset
retirement obligation note um and really is just providing uh readers with
information about the balances um at the beginning of the year. The accretion
expense again that will continue to go up as you get closer to the time you
have to satisfy those liabilities and then the balance at the end of the year.
And then the bottom table is really just showing users that um the anticipated
time when you'd have to be remediating is well beyond the year of 2030.
Um I will take you now to schedule one the financial statements which is on
page 25.
So this provides you with a breakdown of the accumulated surplus that we saw on
the statement of financial position and the bottom of the statement of
operations and accumulated surplus. You'll see that I'll start at the in the
reserves and reserve funds. So you'll see that your total reserves at the end
of the year $4.25 million and your reserve funds $1.7 million.
And then if we move up to the top section, um your general fund surplus at
the end of the year, $4.4 million, and it's reflected in these financial
statements, but you do have a standing resolution to transfer that uh into
reserves. So for the final statements, that will um be transferred into
reserves, but wanted you to be able to see what that surplus was at the end of
the year. Your investment in tangible capital
assets, $38.8 million. And then your unfunded um liabilities at
the end of the year uh make are made up of your debt and your asset retirement
obligations. So those are show shown as negative surpluses or deficits because
um you have to set up those liabilities for accounting purposes, but you levy
and pay for those as you go along. You haven't fully funded those liabilities
at this point in time. So your total surpluses before your reserves and
reserve funds, $41.4 4 million.
The next schedule is the um consolidated schedule of tangible capital assets and
this just provides more detail about the activity in your um tangible capital
assets. So starting with um the cost at the beginning of the year, we see your
additions of $4.7 million, but we get to see it by category on this particular
schedule. you did have disposals uh in the year. So that comes out and then the
same thing with your accumulated amortization, your balance at the
beginning of the year, your amortization expense for the year, and then the uh
accumulated amortization related to the assets that were disposed of. So all of
that reconciles down to your netbook value of $38.8 million.
And the last two pages of your financial statements represent schedule three,
which is um your segmented disclosure. So this is taking all of the information
that we saw on um consolidated statement of operations, but breaking it out by
breaking your revenues and expenses out by function or by department as well as
breaking your expenses out by object. So showing the nature of the expenses um by
their categories, salaries, materials etc.
So the numbers are just roll up into that consolidated statement in total.
There any questions?
Mr. Peacock. >> Thank you. Thanks, Rosie. Um, with
regard to on page 25, I'm not sure if it's a question for you or for John, but
it it still indicates that we have a reserve fund for the LRCA building. And
and I believe that that was from years ago when we were going to have to put
some funds away um for a conservation authority building, but then that never
happened. So um should that reserve fund be closed or uh
that fund be put somewhere else? >> We have actually gone through this year
and we've identified uh three or four historic reserves that were set up um
that we don't think we we need to carry anymore. and uh we'll bring forward at
some point a resolution to ask council to close those reserves and move the
funds to a proper place. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah,
» that's it. >> Okay.
Thank you very much, Rose, for coming out and
Yes. Yes, we are in good shape, which is nice to know.
» I wish I could give everybody that kind of result each year. Um, if I may, your
worship, sorry, I should have mentioned um there were a couple of items that uh
John and Wayne noticed, excuse me, your CEO and your deputy uh CEO noticed today
that won't change your bottom line, but will just change whether um an item is
in your operating surplus or your reserve.
» Okay? >> Not talking big dollars here. So it will
just change where categories are sitting in your accumulated surplus and we'll
make that adjustment. >> Yes. Yes.
» So uh to the chair, do we run the risk and this may be as a question that's a
little broader than presentation of these statements. Do we run the risk of
uh in 2025 being a little bit blind to other issues because of the windfall
that we received? because I there there were some
I mean there were some changes uh to the amounts that were beyond budget that
were not to our benefit but I mean everything's covered up by this windfall
I guess I don't know if you'd comment on that maybe.
» So really if if um you take a good thing would be to take a look at schedule one
for a moment. So if we look at schedule one
um you see last year there was a general fund deficit. So sorry it's on page 25.
Oops. Last year there was a general fund
deficit but that was there because uh there was knowledge that um there would
be loan proceeds coming in 2025 to to finance that. Otherwise you normally any
surplus or any surplus you have automatically goes into your reserves.
Um so looking at your general fund uh surplus at the end of the year 4.48
million that definitely has provided a positive
impact to your financial statements. But when you look at your other revenues and
then your other expenses your operating expenses were just slightly higher than
what you'd budgeted for. Honestly really very close when we take a look at that
on the consolidated statement. um 13.17 million versus 13.158 million. And
[clears throat] your uh revenues were, if we take the impact of the landfill
out, your revenues were slightly um under budget, but not a significant
amount. So, I understand exactly what you're asking. I don't think it's really
masking any issues.
» Any further questions? Oh, councelor Peacock,
» thank you. Just one further comment. Um, tax receivable, glad to see that it is
going down from from previous year and I realize that um it's been an effort to
between the new system that we have and consolidating previous uh accounting
program that we had. So, thanks to administration
and uh the treasurer for for the efforts to get this out to us. Thank you. Any
further questions? No. Thank you very much for coming out this evening. Again,
I'm glad it's good news. We hope so. Every year,
watch out for the smoke.
Okay, next item that we have on our agenda.
Uh, we have a resolution that's been moved and seconded to go into close
session. The time being 5:33 p.m. It has been moved and seconded. All in
favor? Opposed? It's carried. So, we'll now take a couple minutes to if anybody
has to leave or whatever and then we will go into in camera.
We have a resolution approving the minutes of the close session meeting
held on June the 24th. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed?
Harried. The next item we have is a resolution with approval of the dorsal
fin contract. It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? All in
favor? Opposed? carried. And then uh we have the bylaw approving the uh contract
with the dorsal fin organization. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor?
Opposed? Carried. We have the minutes of our regular
council meeting held on June the 24th for approval. The it's been moved and
seconded. Uh any errors or omissions? All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Any
discussion on any item of those minutes? That's page 13 to 28y.
» Yes. >> 10 uh B
» 10B. Yeah, on page 11 of 16 or page 23, it was about that
that motion that resolution that we had thing and it went to the Thunder Bay
District Municipal League and they weren't too favorable for it about the
equalization more payments. >> Of course they aren't because the
Northshore gets going to have to pay their way.
» Yeah, I tried to make my case. I said they're not uh they they
» no interest. No, they're not because they will be the ones that they are
right now not paying the same as we are. >> Exactly. So I I said this was a hybrid
model that they were looking at and possibility of paying but
we can you make your case and they didn't.
» I know. Yeah. Thank you for trying. Appreciate that.
» Yes. >> Excuse me. Um, I did send the uh on page
21 um it says that I had a a letter from resident um with regard to the MTO and
uh WSP public meeting. I did send it on to Wayne today, but uh anyways, just to
follow up that he had the gentleman has already forwarded it to the powers that
be, but uh we do have a copy here for us. [clears throat]
» Good. Okay. The next item is a
next item is the one that which is yours, Carrie.
» Just let us know which is yours. >> Budget first.
surplus. >> Oh, okay. Because I thought we were
doing Carrie,
isn't it? >> No, it's because of the time she has to
leave. >> So, and she has a report to give to us.
So, if you could tell us which item it is, Carrie,
» um, it's on page 38 of your package. Um, 2026118.
» Oh, the crossroads subdivision. >> Yeah.
» Okay. And uh that that is on page four of our
agenda. There's the new copy on our desk because the one that was in the agenda
has been changed and we'll pass on the report.
Did you just want to answer questions on the report or
» Sure. Yeah. It's it's just the recommendation report. So the majority
of the report is the same as what was presented at the public meeting. M
» um and then responding to the concerns from the single resident that spoke
» is on page 43. >> All righty. So, were there any comments
or any questions of the council of planner with this this uh crossroads
subdivision? This is a proposal to develop uh the subdivision and uh these
are all conditions that have to be met. >> Yeah. This is for draft approval.
» Yes. So, councelor Peacock,
» thank you. So, the road A, street A, street,
however they're going to access this land because right now it's landlocked.
So, >> it's not landlocked.
» It's not. >> It's not landlocked.
» And where is their frontage? >> Where is it?
» Crossroads Highway 1117. their access to this though
» is road street A off of Twin City Crossroads.
» Okay. >> So to bring that road to up to standard
that's part of the condition then that >> in your conditions 3A.
» Yes. >> You're not you're are you looking at the
form that was on your desk? >> Yep. The new one here. Yes. Okay. So
that it's up to them. >> It's always up to the
» to the developer. >> Yes. Always the subdivision owner. Now
on page 41,
last paragraph, LRCA, it says LRC CA will support lots 7, 8,
11, 12, 13, 14, and five. >> 15.
» You're not This report says five. Okay. Because then they didn't approve five.
So that's why I wondered. Okay. Thank you.
And
Do we have any further comments with regard to Cooper Road North? What's
going to happen with that? >> Um, condition 8 is written the way that
it is so that they have time to deal with MTO. There's a 5-year period for
them through draft approval to sort out the MTO.
So, there was monies put aside in our budget, but I'm just not sure what that
was to cover for Cooper Road North >> where it states none of the 20250k
and budget 26 will be spent unless there is a subdiv.
» Okay.
Okay. Were there any other questions in regards to this uh
this additions for the plan draft plan of
subdivision of any of the council >> question
like where would that be just before the race track
» Alan you have to speak >> I'm sorry
» you call the sock then on this coup road if it's developed that would be done
just ahead of the where the racetrack is. It's right at the other side of the
fence. >> Right here at the other side of the
fence because they bought the strip off of Monteth.
» They bought the 33 feet. So the culde-sac would be between the 33 ft of
Monteth and 33 ft of the developers land on their land.
» Okay. So they bought it from >> until Cooper with MTO gets met.
» Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Yes. Councelor Peacock.
» Sorry, just one further question. I know that we've met a number of times with
different agencies uh and ministries with regard to the lack of hydro um
availability like the power course. Is that can that be detrimental detrimental
to the developments that we're approving as far as the uh
the hydro situation that there isn't enough power in the lines to support
industries. >> Uh the onus is on the developer to
ensure that that is in the development. So um I would assume that they've made
sure that that exists prior to going forward. I guess you don't know what's
going in there. So, it's pretty hard to to uh prove that as well.
» Camphoff. >> Yeah. I think in my recollection the
bigger issues with hydro infrastructure were with uh generation
and how it couldn't be integrated into the grid. So, I don't I there there may
be concerns. I have no idea. But I don't think that's been really identified that
there was supply issues for something like of this scale.
» And we do circulate to hydro. So I would assume their comments would reflect
concerns like that if they existed. So that's right. Okay.
Anything else? Any other questions? So we do have
a resolution. See what did you see here?
And this is this is the new resolution was on our desk. So it has been moved
and seconded. So any further questions or discussion on this?
» Okay. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Was there any other thing at the carry
that was for you to report today? >> Uh only if there's questions about the
building report. >> Okay.
» Oh, and then I have the deferral for the the golf
subdivision. >> Okay.
» Um if anyone had questions about that. >> Okay. Well, the building department
report is on page 30 to 37. So to that one,
they had quite we have a quite impressive re revenue or sorry cost of
construction this year compared to last year.
» Costs are going up to build. >> It's over $17 million being going on
right now. Were there any any questions for the
planner in regards to the uh building permit report?
Okay. So, that was there's no resolution with that. And the one other one was u
page 6D and this is the municipal golf course deferral.
And did we have you would just say if there were questions?
» Yeah, just if there's questions. Okay. Does anybody
um have any questions in regards to that defl?
» I the question I have is I don't know if our staff can answer it because it's in
the letter from the city of Thunder Bay. Um, page 49 just to maybe help me
clarify in my head what they mean, but they're talking in the second paragraph
down. It says, "A proposed servicing region being municipal water in
combination with communal sewage system represents a form of partial servicing."
» Is that partial servicing? >> No,
» I didn't think so. >> It's not.
» So, okay. Okay. But it doesn't sound like they're super excited to sign a
deal just yet. So, >> correct. Yeah. That's why he's deferring
it. Any other question it up? >> That's right. So that's just for your
information. >> Yeah.
» Okay, Carrie. Thank you very much, >> and then we have fire department. Sean,
» we've got those. Which ones did we want? >> No. No. Sean, I said Sean, did you have
to go somewhere? Nope. Okay. Well, then we'll just go according to the list we
have here. >> Yes. back on schedule. So, reports of uh
the 2025 consolidated financial statements and budget surplus. We do
have a budget surplus and uh we would like it to be going to what reserve?
» Pardon? Working >> our favorite the working fund. Then
we'll figure it out from there. >> That's what I would
» and then >> but is that agreeable to you? It's on
page 29. And >> the figure we need to move then is on
page four of your statements of >> $5,817,686
net revenue before under Oh, sorry, that's wrong. It's 5810 555. We got to
take into the account the I'll put that in.
» Okay. So that's 50 5,800
» and 555 >> and 555.
» That's it. and it will be going to the working funds we reserve if that's okay
with council. Okay, any discussion?
» First stone bridge working funds. [laughter]
» Just to clarify, working reserve is a accounting entry.
» It's not. It's actual cash. >> That's right. It's just a number that
showed up on the Any further discussion? All in favor?
Opposed? It's been carried. Uh and then we can skip a couple pages
and we get to the 2026 to 2030 Province of Ontario Mutual Aid Plan Executive
Summary 54 to 72. And this is for information
which is interesting to read.
But um any questions of our our uh fire chief?
» Well, just a comment as I was reading through there. Uh it's it's a well
doumented paper. How is do you see anything that stands out here that would
be detrimental to your municipality at all? Or do you see on the opposite side?
Is there something really good that you're glad you see that's in here?
Well, I'm I'm glad uh to the firefighter certification requirements in there. Um
it's it will be challenging for the departments that aren't necessarily up
to the certification requirements. Um but um I think people are working
towards it. Um there is still a lot of work that has to
get done. The appendices, the deployment model and the emergency contact
information. I wanted to speak to those. So this I was going to bring a bylaw in
to get acceptance to follow it, but when you start doing the appendix is actually
what happens is it turns into the Thunder Bay mutual aid plan. So the
deployment model needs to get uh completed in order to write the Thunder
Bay plan. That's why there's no bylaw in in here. And if you go to I believe it's
page um the deployment. So we're at page 58.
I think 58 of 159 is where it starts. >> Yes. The deployment model.
» Yeah. >> So what has to happen is um and we have
to work as a zone is I for each station I've got to put in who I'm going to
request assistance from and what I'm going to request from them. So if we
just say Intel for example, my resource option is one going to be cam fire
department for people, campfire department for a pumper, cam fire
department for a tanker, and then it's got to go through, but I can't just say
that. They've got to be able to provide that service. So there's there's going
to be some work that has to happen to get this Thunder Bay mutual aid plan in
place. Um, I've already spoken to the OFM about it, saying we've got to get on
this to get get this done, but we got to talk as a group because each
department's going to have to do this with who they're going to call for
mutual aid. So, it's I don't think it's a huge job, but there's going to be some
work that has to get done to to develop it.
Um, so that's that's a big part of it. And then this emergency contact which is
the second part in the asset report that makes up the Thunder Bay plan that all
comes from the profile. So I've already done the profile and submitted it. I I
referenced in the report about the certification update where they were
asking about number of firefighters that certified and all that. That's where
this is going to come into effect. And I put in the um the non-municipal
participaction. So they don't do the uh profiles.
So, all of the information in this non non-municipal uh form that they have to
fill out, that's basically everything that I put into the profile. So, it
gives you a sense of what kind of information they're looking for to make
this mutual aid plan, the Thunder Bay district mutual aid plan.
» So, your plan will be part of the Thunder Bay plan or it just falls under
the umbrella of the Thunder Bay plan. So the uh the Ontario plan that I gave at
the last meeting that's the umbrella and then underneath that each district has a
district specific plan. >> Oh okay. So
» and it's based on the deployment models and the um and the asset information.
So, >> councelor this.
» Yeah. T the what bothered me most as I went through here is
» what happens what happens now uh if the the fire department calls for mutual aid
which is all proponed and they have only external firefighting
and it's an internal problem. How do you deal with that? So the deployment model
is supposed to capture that for me to say that I'm not going to request them
for interior attack. I request them for >> just stop you there for a minute. My
point is if you've that scene and let's use commia for the example and you've
got there and uhoh there's someone inside now what
see that's I concerns me more because the the onus is going to be whoever goes
there. You see what I'm saying? 100%. So it turns into a moral uh u moral
question and the incident commander is going to have to make decisions based on
what's coming. This deployment model is supposed to give us the tools ahead of
time to say that I can't ask for anybody in Kebeca
because there are no interior attack people in Kabeka. So if I need um in the
Kebeca area I need interior attack people I don't call con. I'm going to
call Thunder Bay to come in to that distance. If I need a pumper truck,
Commie's got a pumper truck, so I can ask for that. They've got firefighter
ones, then I that's what I ask for out of out of town meet.
» There's there's a lot of work to to sort this all out and we all got to be at the
table talking like I I when I talked to the OFM about it, I said I need to do
this and I can't do it without sitting and talking to all the partners to say,
is this what you can provide? I guess that's my point. You know,
everybody really better understand because this changes the whole scenario.
Neighbor helping neighbor that's gone. It's just all professional stuff now.
So, and and I found that I said, "Oh, I'm glad I'm not a volunteer fire
department member anymore because what happens when I go there and there's
somebody in there I'm going to go and try and get to get out." That's just
nature. That's where does that leave reliability
» and that's the decision that the people have to make on the scene and that's
it's um I think this improves our situation.
» Okay. >> Because it does it it improves it in the
sense that we're putting it on the table and then we're going to have to say well
if such and such fire department if you've got nothing to offer then you're
not part of mutual aid. So if you can't come and help me then we're not coming
to help you. And it's going to force that hand in a lot of areas.
Peacock. >> Thank you. When I look at the core
services, um, and that's on page 64 and 65,
there are a lot of things that we don't offer. Am I correct?
» That's right. >> So, these are all of the services that
are out there. And when we do the profile, I say yes or no based on our
enabling bylaw. >> Okay.
Okay. >> So, there's there's a lot on here that
we do not do. I just say nope. We don't provide that service.
» Okay. >> NA.
» NA. Exactly. >> Yeah.
» Any other questions about the report? No.
» Being continued. >> Okay. The next item we have is the
comments on Highway 1117 widening and rerouting project.
We have the letter here that was done by administration and we have a resolution
moved and seconded to accept that report and submit it to to the uh MTO and I
believe the the other company WSP.
Yes, >> Lucia wonder and I I I think this is
well written they should it go also to maybe the ministry in Toronto you know
Mr. Tom Compound is just a local leader on this project, but I I think we need
to go way beyond that. And I think it's a wellwritten letter and I thought maybe
we could send that to the ministry to Toronto as a copy and say, you know,
this is what we're dealing with. Is that possible?
» We can CC it to the premier even and yeah, and the local Kevin Holland to the
local representative. they can all get. >> We can do that. I appreciate because I
think it's well written and what you've got too is our concerns. There's no
doubt. So, >> yes.
» Yeah, we can certainly do that. >> Thank you.
» The minister, Minister of Transportation himself directly and
» because you know all Northern Ontario now is on the hot trot and there's 1178.
So, the more we can put in there, I think it might just help just a little
wee bit. >> Yes.
» Okay. Yes. Just wanted to comment that we talked about Cony last week. So this
uh draft letter was presented to them and their council is supposed to be
looking at it this evening and the clerk indicated to me that likely that council
is going to submit something on this project.
» Wonderful.
» Okay. So we do have the resolution uh
recommending submission of this letter. Any further discussion? It's been moved
and seconded. All in favor? opposed carried.
The next item we have is bids and tenders procurement platform. There is a
resolution that's been moved and seconded um in regards to uh joining
this full platform procurement solution. It's uh this I' personally I've been
through this system uh with uh with two clients in years previous and it's it's
a terrific system. You put your bids and tenders out there and it goes to all
over the place. >> And uh um
all people can Yes. >> Two questions. Uh number one, is this
like a private company that's running this
bids and tenders thing? >> Um yeah, it's it's it's a weird kind of
setup, but it's it's a it's a private company, but it's also um connected to
AMOL. Okay. >> So,
» okay. Second question is, if it's so great, why are we just hearing about it
now? >> I I don't know. I can't speak for
previous treasures why they they didn't do it, but u
» but u yeah I I uh we we're always looking to improve and u so if we can
improve now we should uh we should look at improving the way we do things.
» Yeah, there's a cost to it. And we we were a member of bids and tenders but
used it to source tenders that we could adapt to go out to for our procurement,
» right? >> This is a procurement site.
» Well, more we were like a visitor 350 bucks a year or something we could pay
to look at everybody else's.
» Yeah.
» Councelor P. Cook, we'll have to be mindful should this get approved to uh
put that additional amount in our budget each year for the license. But which
department or which staff would then be responsible um to take the training?
» Uh well well um the training would be um I guess it's a tier
training system. So uh people responsible for uh such as myself for
approvals and Wayne would take uh training on the approval process. Uh
other staff would take uh training on things that are relevant to them. So um
the AP clerk may take training on it for you know tracking contracts. Um asset
management may take uh training on uh preparing tenders uh that type of stuff.
So would all depend on on on the rules. We haven't set the rules yet as we're
not. >> Okay. Thank you.
So, any further thoughts or questions on it or I'm not quite sure how much it
would help us or not, but
it will get to more people if if that helps the municipality. Some of the
products, some of the things that happen here happen for example our chip
ceiling. It's it's just goes to whoever is doing it all along. You know, it
doesn't really go anywhere else, but equipment perhaps and uh uh contracts
for other Yes. engineering jobs. >> Yeah. Well, John did do some uh looking
into different roofers that are available uh outside of pin and tenders
on our roofing contract and some put in a bid that never knew that we did any
work out here. So, when you go into something like this, there's some
vendors out there that aren't aware of our job solicitations. That's the idea.
I do know that contractors, whatever field they work in, go and check that
out at least once or twice a month to see what jobs pop up that they can bid
on. >> Well, if you're a member of the Thunder
Bay Construction Association, you're automatically notified because
Construction >> Association, for example, those will be
notified if we post something and then they can send it out to their members
» that goes up. Uh the other thing it does too though is is the thing is it is it
uh allows for better compliance uh with our procurement bylaw. So um you know
there's a process that has to be followed. So if someone submits a bid
that's incomplete, they're notified that the bid didn't
meet, you know, say they didn't include a a WSIB clearance certificate or proof
of insurance or something. >> Yeah.
» So they're notified that their bid is income. Uh and also the approvals are
are coordinated all the way along the line. So if something needs say Wayne's
approval before it can go to the next stage, it won't go to the next stage
until Wayne approves it. So that type of stuff helps.
» Okay. And so and when when for example, if we get four bids on a tender, is this
going to increase the the is it going to come back to council faster or is it
going to be delayed? Because we like we like to see it fast in the spring. It
should come back faster because part of the service they offer is a bid scoring
system. >> Okay.
» And there's so we have if we have multiple criteria
uh it's scored against those multiple criteria or generation should be either
so it should come back. >> We'd like to see fast. We don't it's not
faster but at least we don't want to see things delayed by two or three weeks
just because you're using this process. Yes.
I just wanted to comment that um the city of Thunder Bay is in this thing and
Nebing's been in it and the treasurer of Nebing, I was speaking with her. They've
been in it before she was hired in 2019. So, and she says it works well for their
big jobs. They get more interest in them and so forth, but they don't put the
little stuff on there. If we're going to be painting a building for 20 grand, you
don't go here. But if you're paving a road or you're doing a bunch of
construction in buildings that is, you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars,
this is where they would try.
» And and the other thing too is it keeps up to date uh on things like buy Ontario
to make sure we're compliant with rules like that. So So they keep so when the
province changes something or introduces something new, they're up to date on
that. So if I don't know that we're going to do this, but say we we have to
buy a fleet of pickup trucks, right? They will they will do the the buy
Ontario scoring and all that kind of stuff is already will be factored into
it for us. So >> right, that'll save us some time.
So your thoughts again, we have a resol or know this is a recommend no
resolution. We do have it. It was moved and
seconded. Any further discussion? All in favor? Opposed? Carried.
The next item we have is transfer of townline road allowance to the
municipality. This is just a housekeeping item. It happens once in a
while. Uh we have a resolution that has moved and seconded. Is there any
questions on this piece of Townline Road?
All in favor? Opposed? Carried. And to the next one, we have a
resolution that's been moved and seconded that we should develop a bylaw
to authorize the use of alcohol in public for consideration
at um municipally designated outdoor public events.
My answer is no. Do you want to know anything more than that?
» I was going to say I'm completely in favor of this or not. There's enough
abuse in alcohol systems now and and to encourage that would be against my
better judgment. >> Well, yes. If something happens and
somebody's been drinking at a party outside
and we pass this bylaw, we are responsible liable.
» Yes. >> Not only that, I think that the onus is
then put on the bartender. So, if you have a public event where they're
selling liquor and then somebody brings it in, how can you monitor
who's had too many?
So, >> so I guess our answer unless somebody
wants to argue with me is I say no, I'm sorry. If you want to override me, go
ahead. I think we should stay as far away from this as possible.
» They do it anyways. Okay. So, I don't think we have to pass a thing to say
that they can they do it as as it is. No,
» if you have it on a private person's lawn or whatever, well, then they're
responsible. That's we don't have to get involved in that.
» Yeah. >> But to to encourage people to bring
alcohol to a community event, >> that's not something you
» No. >> Okay. The next one is Oh,
» yeah. Council, if that's what they'd like to do, defeat the resolution. Oh,
okay. All in favor? [laughter]
» Oh, sorry. Okay. And then the Oliver Papoon
Heritage Park urgent roof repairs. It was uh it was given to us separately.
Which building is this on? >> Oh,
» no. One beside the general store, the train station and the dentist office and
the church proper church. Two buildings.
» Okay. Is this is this um I don't know how to say this. Is this being done on
something we don't feel will be staying up? these this repair being done on
things that in my opinion are staying up.
» Okay, then that's okay. Then I don't have to see more than that. But you
know, we don't want to spend money on something that we're not sure is going
to be there in a year or so. Okay. So, we have a resolution that's
been moved and seconded. Any discussion or questions? It's coming
from their reserve fund. Okay.
Righty. Yes. Council Peacock. Just wondering is this a local company this?
» Yes. >> Milton. Okay. Thank you.
» Okay. All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Then we have reports of committees which
is the D7. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Underneath there, I could
hardly see that. You're right. There's u they're displaying a car from the Russ
Wanzik collection. And we did have this request.
got to be a couple years ago I believe from the same organization.
Um there was a
that time if I remember correctly there was a uh
concern with uh if if the vehicle would be damaged in any way while it was
there. uh the fact that it would be removed from the main collection which
is was asked for or Russa gave it gave it to the municipality so it could be
displayed in the municipality um and the transporting it from one
place to the acting are we are we looking for an opportunity to have
something damaged on it so councelor >> miss
» if you read the report the museum board said they would not be supportive of
yesterday would like to keep. So I I would not the
» leave it up and leave it where it is. >> Okay. So we do have a resolution
that's been moved and seconded. >> May you read the resolution, please?
» Deny it. >> Deny it. It's in the report that with
respect to report 2026.128 displaying the car from the Russ Wanza collection
at the Canadian lit exhibition provided that the Canadian lake kit exhibition
ensures the car and meets other conditions put forward by administration
be approved. >> Moved and seconded to approve it. I will
ask for a vote. All those in favor?
Opposed. Call a quiet moment there as we
consider. And I believe there's another one here too. Awarding the RFPQ
cardic. That's all. That was it. Okay. Because there's two numbers here. All
righty. This board subcommittees for DSAB board and the Thunder Bay Health
Units uh bylaw. The one uh been moved and
seconded to acknowledge and the acknowledgement and direction on
Townline Road. All in favor? Opposed? carried adopting
the tax rate and set due dates. I don't know if there's any any
questions on that. It's been moved and seconded.
Any questions on that bylaw? All in favor? Opposed? Carried. And
again, the tax ratio and tax rate reductions. It's been moved and seconded
the bylaw. All in favor? Opposed? Carried.
Um the schedule A was there something else?
» Okay. >> All righty. Um Titionson communications
or action items is a plans to combat the tick born diseases is one. The other one
is the himer's agricultural society. I did ask the clerk if she would please
put a resolution in at uh as we got this action item because I know every year we
do put some advertisement or advertisement in their pamphlet.
So the resolution's been moved and second. Uh is there any discussion on
this matter? Yes, councelor Campov. >> Uh just cur so is this a I see it's a
» sorry >> it's a it's a provincial form that's
filled out by Gillies Township. It's the selling of their tickets.
» Do they set the fee or does the province set the fee? The $3 license fee.
» Province has the fee. >> Wow. Okay. Just curious.
» $3. >> $3.
» Stamped for that. >> Okay. I apologize. This was not this was
not advertising in the Himer's fair. It was the 50/50 tickets if they could sell
them. And again, we've allowed that before, too. So uh all in favor opposed
carried. Again the rail safety week September 21
to 27th. We do it every year and so I ask the clerk to please just bring us f
the bring us the resolution. It's been moved and seconded. Is there any
discussion on this one? All in favor? Opposed? Carried. And then we have a
resolution that's been moved and seconded in regards to Rural Heritage
Agricultural Society requesting placement of advertise advertisement in
their program book for the fair 2026 fair.
» Last year >> $180 same as last year. Yes. So it's
been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? All in favor? Opposed?
Carried. Then we have a resolution of support of the NOHSC's tile drainage
funding. It has been moved and seconded. It is open for discussion.
» I think we I would like to support that. >> Okay.
Any further discussion?
» No, I don't believe you should. on this side for this. So currently, uh,
Northern Ontario Farm Innovation Alliance, although they're based in
Smith, they are the organization that's coordinating local tile drainage
projects that are going to the NHF. Um, yeah, I it's I always will speak in
favor of uh drainage because it's a good thing for
both agriculture and rural economy down,
» right? It makes what was unusable land usable. So there can't be anything
better for >> any further discussion. All in favor?
Opposed? Carried. Then we have a a request for provincial action on the
accuracy of municipal voters lists. We did not put a resolution in here, but
they're u encouraging prioritization of the review of data in regards to
property owners etc. And then we have the Penock Village
resident landfill punch card request. And that was a letter that was received.
It's on page 120. And I will pass it to Wayne.
» Don't fall asleep. You got to answer this one.
question about what >> for the punch card
» request of the people at Penark Village who would like to have a punch card.
» Mayor Lucy. >> Yes, I I think I left the message on the
co's phone line. I said I don't think you need to even bother spending that to
uh to council waste her time. But anyway, here it is. And the reason why I
made that call, I went to that open house and uh I asked them I hear a lot
of stories how it works and this went right from their horse's mouth. They
purchased the unit, excuse me, between $600 and $700,000.
» Mhm. >> Then they pay $650 a month maintenance
fee. Then they pay between three and $4,000 in taxes. And then they still pay
hydro and heat. So if they why don't they get a a card for the landfill site?
Now I could see I what I didn't understand does that house not go into
my name if I buy it that remains in James Kohley. Well then if we know
that's the system anytime James Kohley comes in for a I'll give you part of it.
You said here here's your landside tickets and give it to them.
That's for their house.
Miss Campov, >> we discussed this at length when we
first instituted this. This is very similar to Happy Land Trailer Park, is
it not? Really, it's the responsibility like councelor Vist just said, it's the
responsibility of whoever's name is on the deed to disseminate the carts.
» Yeah. But what I find so so difficult, if I to pay $600,000, I
think I'd like to have my name on that property. It's mine. 600,000.
» It's up to them. >> It's up to them. Yeah. [laughter]
» Yes. >> We had this um matter last year and we
ended up uh making changes to the bylaw and what we decided again this is Panok
Village. Uh we can talk about late that later. Uh well shortly. But uh with
regard to multi-residential properties, apartment blocks, the Happy Land uh
trailer park, uh what the plan was is that for every four tenants that you
have, you get a commercial card, right? So Happy Land had 37 tenants. He can get
nine commercial cards. And then there was a provision put in there that the
owner could convert his commercial cards to to residential cards so that the
tenants could go on their own. So that's what we did for the Happy Land uh place
and that's what's going on with the the other trailer park and and apartment
block uh things like that that we have right now. So now the Peno village uh
there's similarities in in in that that the commercial cards go to the the owner
the the Pano village place and they will they would get four
uh four one commercial car for every four tenants and then they would could
convert them to to use for the tenants. like that's something that could happen
there. Now it is a little different because
they've bought this building but I are they property owners in the sense of
impact and I don't think so. So that it's it's different
» with happy land. The people that live there bought that home.
» Yeah. >> So it's on someone else's property but
it bought their home. >> That's stressful.
» So this is an issue. So, have we has has the actual whoever the land owner is,
whether it's the developer or the business that the the legal entity that
owns the property, have they been issued the cards now?
» Through the chair, uh it's not the legal owner. It's not the owner of Penock
Village that's coming in. It's as they get occupancy per unit, they're coming
in. Yes. >> And we've been directing them back to
Good >> to deal with that.
» So, that's that's an internal problem that this is shouldn't be our problem.
» Correct. So the owner should have of that whole unit thing should be here
already having gotten at least one card. >> Correct. So the the property is
commercial or whatever it is. He the owner is entitled to one commercial
card. >> This is very similar to
» for every four units >> for every four units. This is the third
person that's moved in. Yeah. >> Right. So there is an opportunity. I
don't even know if Mr. call. He's got the cards for the original batch that
he's due. Again, this is a issue and it's complicated to the very extent that
Wayne just talked about. The property is not owned by the people that are writing
the letters. >> Uh by $600,000.
» Well, that's the way the system works. >> That's a that's a that's a Yeah, that's
the type of system that is there. That's what it's called. Subdivision of
condominium. >> This doesn't seem that complicated. Oh,
chair. It's not. >> No. So, I mean, so I I hope Mr.
Guttenborg was directed to go back to >> correct
» because it looks like they came in two times.
» Correct. >> Given a different story, different time.
» I don't know. I wasn't here. >> Mr. Okay.
» Or if office calls you, call Mr. Cole say, "Mr. Cole, would you come on here
straighten out? These people are need this. Get that straightened out through
the chair." We we it's the same issue in regards to uh fire numbers in there.
» Building numbers. >> Yeah. How do you
» Because it's it's on the developer to come up with the building number. We
don't know which one's selling first. So when it comes down to municipal address,
it's Penock Village Way or whatever the road is.
» Yeah. >> The unit numbers are decided by the
owner.
» I mean, it's up to the owner, too. They could go into a system where he has a
corner somewhere where he has the garbage bins
» through the chair. throw your garbage in the bin and he will ensure that it gets
picked up. >> The owner has that opportunity and I
think that's how it was portrayed in the original advertising of the place that
you wouldn't have to worry about anything.
» Well, I thought that's what the $650 a month is.
» Yeah. Well, that's why I say you wouldn't want it to be in the middle of
the, you know, you don't want a messy place like that. But if you have it in a
corner somewhere and you have the bins, they hire a company to come once every
two weeks or something to empty them, then you don't have to go to landfill
site at all. >> So this is the I think this is the third
one that's got occupancy. And I know that the first two I did know and I
turned them the other way. >> Mhm.
So they are all informed now that they need to go to Mr. Kohley. And
» this letter came whatever day it was. I haven't responded to this letter as yet.
Nope. >> Okay. Well, we will though and just tell
them you have to go to Mr. Kohley and he gives you the cards and that's how it
works. Okay. Because they're entitled to it. I mean the residents and they're
paying. >> Yes.
» This individual did come in and ask about it and he was advised you need to
go to the landlord because that's what it says in the bylaw.
» Okay. So he was told >> Yeah.
» Okay. >> Okay.
All righty. Um then we have uh for information only the
firefighter certification update, the DSAB board minutes, the health unit
conservation authority, Superior North EMS,
uh rural Ontario Municipal Association, they had the highlights board meeting
highlights, the community benefits charge and parkland Miller prec 50ear
celebration. I will be going there tomorrow.
Uh just nobody I'm not not representing but I will go. I would like to represent
them just to >> bring something
» beef cakes. >> I I don't think so.
» Beef cakes. >> I'll go my I'll go go and get some
flowers ever. But anyway, maybe we could even have a certificate.
» Would you something? I could pick something up.
» Okay. Yeah. 50 years of service to the community deserve some uh kind of
notification and I will go tomorrow. I'll come here first.
And then correspondence received from uh Chief Darson Furry from the Thunder Bay
Police Department. Some potential national interest projects in the North
Shield Energy Corridor announcement. Military service recognition book.
New business. Councelor Calbertt. Uh, no, just like I said, I went to the
municipal league meeting in Scriber on the weekend and
it's interesting and like I say, I tried to present our case which they didn't
seem to bite too much on. Other than that, it was a good meeting.
» Good. Cancel this. >> Yes. You heard the thumbs up, thumbs
down. Well, I have a thumbs up and a thumbs down on
» Okay, thumbs up. The good news first. Compliments to the road crew for doing
an excellent job on both the road. The road was so rough that in the tractor
you would bounce out of the tractor seat if you did not slow down or to a turtle
crawl. Now it's like a highway and we can go speeding along. also want you to
recognize our director of operation commitment to his job on Canada day. I
went to the farm early in the morning and who do I read in the director of
operation. He takes the job serious. He made sure that the people that do the
chip sealing, he was there to make sure it was all done. Thank you very much,
Chris. On the downside, why why wasn't all Bone?
[laughter]
through the chair as per ask management plan. It's not due to be redone again.
» Okay. [laughter] It didn't even get lines.
Well, anyway, thank you. You guys did a wonderful job and I I I couldn't believe
that on day when everybody's off, you are at work. Wonderful to see that. So,
» councelor Peacock, anything? >> Yes, please. Um, looking for some
clarification. Two meetings ago, we had the uh group here with regard or the
gentleman here with regard to hosting Ribfest at the uh racetrack.
» Um do we perhaps need further clarification? Are they going to be
allowed to camp there? Are the the um trailers going to be set up in the from
what I understand the trailers are going to be set up in the uh for the the
trailers that issued the food are going to be set up I think on the land that we
lease to them. So, I'm just wondering if we could get some
further if they know for sure that it's happening and and what their plan of
attack is for I mean, are they asking for
» Well, I I thought that we agreed that that was all right for them to have the
red fest. Yeah, but just just looking for
» are we going to allow they didn't say anything about camping and so I just
didn't know if that was something that they wanted to do or
» if they provide us with further details of their
» the racers all camp there I believe >> and the fire chief will uh take keeps
checking on them to make sure all is done correctly. So, okay.
» Well, I would say Donna, I mean, if we allow for the SA races, why wouldn't you
not allow I think just a standard thing, whatever function they put on, we should
allow them to continue to do the same thing, wouldn't you?
» Yeah. >> The the camping is just um if it's if
there's a race event and perhaps just the little cars isn't exactly a race
event, but anyways, just thinking that we need to have further clarification.
Um, I've had a a request from a resident. Um,
he operates a mobility scooter in the village of Kekabeka and he asked last
year and he's asking again this year if we could please do some maintenance on
the sidewalks in Kebeca. He's had four flat tires in the last month and um he's
hoping that something could be done to fill in and do some maintenance on the
sidewalks. >> Short answer, according to the
maintenance standards, those sidewalks meet the spec.
» Yeah. >> And there is rumors that they'll be
replaced at one point in time in the next couple years. That job is on the
books for the MTO. >> Oh, it's MTO.
» The Ministry of Transportation sidewalks. The sidewalks are on uh
they're our responsibility to maintain. Obviously, the street lights are ours,
but from the front of the sidewalk to the curb is MTO.
» Okay. >> Curbs are MTO. Uh I went and looked at
it last year. I haven't looked at it this year, but the standard has been met
as far as the deviations in so many panels, it meets the spec.
» Okay. Um
further to that, did you get a message with regard to the um corner of Jelly
and Blind Line? Um gentleman had concern that the trees need to be trimmed there.
It's um there's a lot of heavy traffic through there and uh he's concerned that
there's going to be an incident there. >> The chair came through as the corn was
too tall and blocking his view. I did not receive it as far as trees being in
the way.
» If you could have a look >> service that I saw.
» Okay. Perhaps it was from someone else. >> Um,
between the road crew and the and the fire department, do we do either one of
them have a concern with regard to the number of dead trees and spruce budworm
and and fire safety smart plan? Is it what that's called? when you want to
make sure you've got your area, your properties uh
clear of dead trees. Just a thought.
» If it's private problem, then it's a private problem.
» Um the spruce budworm and the conifers that
are are dying back is going to be a concern. Um,
I mean, we're working on a fires smart plan and public education, but this is
going to be a widespread problem. So, >> for sure.
Um, okay. What else could I have with regard to the fire department stuff?
Um, in the past, like since 2024, we've spent over 12 to $15,000
on the Voyant alert program and yet we've never
put out an alert. Is there a reason that maybe one shouldn't have gone out with
regard to the cancellation of fire permits or something like that?
The purpose of violent alert is a mass notification
in emergency situations. The cancellation [clears throat] of burning
permits is not an emergency notification. The intent of that is that
if if there's a fire that's burning down uh the neighborhood that I can quickly
tell everybody to get out. The um I think it's a positive thing that we've
never had to use it. That's right. Um uh the other the other thing that we have
to be mindful with alert systems is is um is people become condition to them
and it's like crying wolf if they go out for every little thing people don't
listen to them. So >> okay
» um it is money that that has to be spent and um I've been in the business of fire
prevention for 35 years and I always say I I try to sell you stuff that I hope
you never have to use. Voyant alert falls into that class. It's one of those
things we need insurance um that we hope we never have to use,
but if we need it, it's there to uh >> Yes.
» It was my Sorry. It was my understanding that if there was a road that was going
to be closed or something like that that we could kind of section off the the um
the plan to say, okay, anyone who called from say Mackie Road that the road's
going to be closed that they were going to be notified, had they signed up for
it? Am I wrong in that? >> No, the notification was for emergency
notification. The system does have the capacity to do dump uh days, water, like
all kinds of stuff, but they cautioned us when we did the first uh session of
the uh the the risk of making it an everyday event and people don't listen
to it. >> Okay.
» Do we have an update on the fire trucks that are around the corner? We're
expecting one delivery at the end of the month and the second one we're expecting
by the end of the year. >> And on a positive note, I'd like to
acknowledge the uh members of the department who
have completed all their certification and uh
and I know it's been a long work in progress and
we need it to be compliant. So, I appreciate that very much. Thank you.
» Thank you. And I'll I'll just comment to that that um there was a town hall and
um the just last Thursday and the fire marshall spoke directly to certification
and I will say I'm very proud of our members for the effort that they put in.
I think that we are I don't want to say one of the few but
we're certainly one of the leaders in being in compliance with certification
which is no minor feat and it is a testament to the effort that our people
put in. Yes, most certainly. Councelor
» Campov
[laughter] or bad not a thumbs up. >> Yes.
» Just have one more to to add. Part of that town hall was also the announcement
of the year three of the fire grant. So, the applications open, I think, on
Thursday the 16th and they close uh Septemberish.
It is essentially the same grant as last year. $20 million available. Um each
it's based on the number of active stations
» and they expect >> yeah they expect 16,500 per station
» which means that we are eligible for just shy of $100,000 again. Last year we
gotund just over 102,000.
» It is short of 20 million but there's a there's a lot of stations out there. So
um the the bucket lists are the exact same as last year. So there's there's
five five buckets. Four of them are cancer prevention and one is lithium ion
batteries again. So we are working to to put in the the application and I will
put in for way more than what we can get. But
» that's the way to do it. Thank you. Okay. Anything else? Anything else from
anyone else? Nope. We have a resolution confirming the meeting we've held this
evening. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed?
We also have a resolution to adjourn the meeting. The time being Oh, I can't see.
8:34 p.m. It's been moved and seconded. All in
favor? Oh, I thought maybe somebody say no, I'm not.
» Thank you very much.