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Oops.
Okay. I'd like to call the meeting to

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order. What we have this evening first
is our public meeting and I'd advise

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that meeting video recorded and live
streamed. I ask if there's a conflict of

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interest.
Thank you.

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As there is none,
we have a resolution moved and seconded

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to adopt the agenda as presented.
Anything to be added?

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Nothing.
All in favor?

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Pass?
The next item is uh our public meeting

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and the clerk will first read the
procedures for the public meeting.

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Please.

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» This is a public meeting to consider
subdivision applications

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under bylaw 182023
subdivision applications public input

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policy. Municipal Volvo bylaw 182023
requires a public meeting be held for

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any subdivision application to receive
input including comments and questions

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from the public. Responses to comments
and questions and answers to questions

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may be provided at the meeting if the
requisite information is available.

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Public input from the meeting will be
reviewed and addressed in a planning

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report at a subsequent council meeting.
Please note this public meeting is held

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pursuant to bylaw 182023 and not the
Ontario's planning act. On November

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28th, 2022, the provincial government
removed the requirement for public

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meetings on subdivision applications and
eliminated thirdparty appeal rights of

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decisions on subdivision applications.
Therefore, any third party making an

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oral or written submission to the
municipality of Olive Branch is not

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entitled to appeal the decision of the
municipality of Olive Branch to the

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Ontario Land Tribunal.
>> Thank you. Um our application this

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evening is application number SD03-2026
on behalf of 1974862 Ontario Inc. Gino

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Gregario is and it is for approval of an
industrial plan of subdivision. The plan

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includes nine light industrial lots
along the proposed C cooper road

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extension currently accessed from an
entrance at 94 private road. The

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planning board would please read their
copy their report.

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» Thank you. Um, in 2022, an application
for a 17 lot subdivision was submitted

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to the municipality on this same
property. At that time, a public meeting

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was held. Recommendations and requests
from council were made, but the the

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developer did not follow up until years
later with this new nine lot plan of

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subdivision. Um, so our official plan
designation of the subject property is

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industrial and environmental protection.
The proposed nine lot industrial, sorry,

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the nine industrial lots are entirely
outside of the EP designation. So only

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the industrial design the industrial
designation was reviewed per the

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official plan. It is the intention of
the industrial designation to support

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the municipality's existing industrial
base by providing lands for industrial

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growth. Minimize the impacts of
industrial areas on surrounding areas

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particularly in sensitive land uses and
on the natural environment and guide the

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location of new industrial uses and
industrial redevelopment within the

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municipality. The zoning bylaw uh zones
the subject property both heavy

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industrial, rural, and light industrial.
The portion of the property subject to

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the proposed subdivision is entirely
within the light industrial zone. No

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changes are required to the zoning bylaw
to accommodate this sub subdivision. For

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information, permitted uses within the
light industrial zone include accessory

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retail outlets and offices, airport,
automobile body repair shop, automobile

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service station, bulk sales
establishment, carpentry shop,

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commercial garage, communication towers
exceeding 30 m in height, contractor's

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yard, equipment sales and service
dealership, gas bar, hydro distribution

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or generating generating station, um
industry light, light industrial

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workshop, machine shop, marijuana grow
facility, merchandise base repair

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establishment, petty trade, pre
prefabricated shipping containers,

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public works yard, railway yard, retail
lumber yard, sewage treatment plant,

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vehicle repair shop, vehicle storage
yard, warehouse, water treatment plant,

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and welder shop.
Um, so the land use policies for land

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development. Um, the size and topography
of the property being 68.92 hectares or

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170.3 acres is appropriate to support
industrial development. The lot frontage

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and size have been reviewed to ensure
they are sufficient to support the light

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industrial land uses. Subject property
is located within an area designated for

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industrial development. Lot 9 may need
to be altered to accommodate a required

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culde-sac at the end of the Cooper Road
extension. No development shall be

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permitted unless it can be shown to the
satisfaction of the municipality that

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there is an adequate water supply,
availability of se uh private septic

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systems, and public road access to
service the development. The owner will

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be required to enter into a subdivision
agreement to be registered on title

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setting out municipal requirements for
road and utilities. An environmental

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impact study was prepared by Northrock
dated September 21st, 2022 and a

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hydrogeeological evaluation was
completed by Harden Environmental

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Services dated November 9th, 2024. Um
both of these studies are on our website

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um with 2026 updates to accommodate uh
the new proposal. Um, so the new

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development will be accessed from the
approved CO uh Cooper Road South

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extension. No additional new roads are
proposed. This type of industrial

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development will rely on private sewer
and water systems constructed through to

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the requirements of the MECP and the
Thunder Bay District Health Unit. Um, so

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eight of the nine lots within the
proposed subdivision proposed to have 60

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mters of frontage with an area of 1.1
hectares. The ninth lot proposes to have

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156.3 m of frontage with a total area of
2.1 hectares. In all cases, the lot

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sizes and frontages indicated in the
draft plan of subdivision meet the

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minimum requirements of the light
industrial zone.

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[clears throat]
There are presently no hydro or

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telephone utilities on the subject
property. These services would need to

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be extended at the cost of the developer
as a condition of approval. Um the

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subject property again is presently
accessed through um Vibrant Road the but

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the proposed nine lots will be accessed
via the Cooper road extension um which

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would be or is a municipally owned road.
Um the planning act requires every

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planning act decision be consistent with
the provincial planning statement. The

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PPS supports growth, economic
development and the best use of the

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lands. Um section 2.5 for rural areas
and municipalities. Um section 2.8 8

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employment and section 3.5 land use
compatibility all speak to how and where

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to incorporate industrial uses, how
municipalities need to create and

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consider employment when reviewing
applications and how compatible the area

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is subject to the applications. Um so
again both the environmental and

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hydrogeeological studies were already
completed with no concerns for the

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development to move forward. Um, we
received agency comments from the

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Lakehead Region Conservation Authority,
the Red Sky Matei Independent Nation,

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and the Ministry of Mines, all stating
no concerns. Um, so after our initial

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review, um, the proposed subdivision,
there has no glaring planning issues at

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this time.
>> Thank you. Were there any other uh

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submissions from supporters or
objectors?

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» Uh, no.
>> Nope. Thank you. Uh, would the applicant

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like to make any comments further than
to what's been read?

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No. No. Okay, that's fine. Uh, I'm going
to ask if there's any supporters in the

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audience.
Any objectors?

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As there is none, is council have any
further questions of the planner in

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regards to this application?
No. Councelor Peacock.

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» Thank you. Um, the application still
indicates that it's nebing township.

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» Yeah, it is. And it also doesn't
indicate on page one of the application

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that the application has been completed.
Um there's no date on that. So

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» when the notice goes out, it says at the
top that it's a complete application.

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» Okay.
Now, is there concern for Brownfield at

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all?
because the applicant says that there's

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no brownfield,
but your report speaks to brownfield.

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My report quotes the official plan,
which has to speak to brownfield, but

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this site itself does not.
>> That's all um verbatim from the official

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plan. I have to put that in there
because it's the industrial designation.

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» Okay.
>> It it's irrelevant to this property.

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» All right. And as far as the road, we've
accepted the road.

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» We accepted it through the um
subdivision in 2023.

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» Okay.
>> Mhm.

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» But it's not in yet or
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we will complete that.
>> Okay. And it's um it's the the other

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applicant that is putting the road in,
not us. Correct.

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» That's correct.
>> Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

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» Any further questions? As there is none,
um we will be reviewing this uh

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application at a further date or is it
in today?

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» No, it'll be at a future meeting. Okay.
So, I have a resolution moved and second

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to adjourn this planning meeting. Uh the
time being

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5:10 p.m. All in favor?
Okay. Then we will continue with our

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council meeting agenda.

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I will call the meeting to order and
advise that the meeting is being video

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recorded and live streamed. I ask if
there's a disclosure of interest.

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As there is none, I have a a resolution
to adopt the agenda as presented. It's

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been moved and seconded. Any further
additions?

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All in favor? Opposed? Carried. The
first item we have this evening is the

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presentation of our 2025 audited
financial statements. And uh I see

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Rosy's here. So if you'd like to come
forward,

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we have a copy of the budget on our
desks.

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Okay, it's all yours very much.
>> Thank you for coming this evening.

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» Thank you very much.

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I do apologize for the not getting you
the financial statements in advance. We

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were dealing with a few technical
difficulties with your new chart of

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accounts and our new financial statement
preparation package that created some

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flexity for us. So my apologies and
certainly I realize this will looking at

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it happy to come back and respond to any
questions that we arise after.

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uh taking a look at the the first page
that I uh after the title page. This is

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administr

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to all of you about this and appreciate
to listen to speak to it. But again,

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this will be signed um by your CEO and
your friend, your deputy um and attached

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to the final.

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Taking a look at your independent
fatherhood report which is on page one

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of the statements we will know some
qualified audit. Um so second paragraph

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just in our opinion
it's fairly present fairly non material

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respects and consolidated finance of the
municipality of alder December 1st of

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8.5
results of chief

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cash for the year then

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you recall last year we did some
qualification and finance

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by virtue of the fact that um we're a
year later in adopting retirement

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obligations.
Right now this that paragraph has been

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removed. We are just waiting not just
for your but others that were in

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office us
one more qualification.

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We are of the opinion that we are
but once we get that okay then I will

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persuet

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31st
looking at your total financial that's

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just over 12 million

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You'll see that the biggest frustration
in your

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cash million dollars.

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I know I'm not explaining anything don't
already know, but you have you have a

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very significant job
as a result of the

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$5 million
>> higher than what you have budgeted for.

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So um that has translated into cash in
your cash accounts year end and I

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understand investments. sub

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that is your your biggest uh increase.
Uh we do see a slight decrease inable

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at the end of the year

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balances and and your accounts
receivable are down.

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That's just a function of them.
So you had some

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see that

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it's just

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looking at your liabilities at year end
your liabilities 5 million

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dollars and you'll see the the most
signuation

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abil

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It's not

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the light is try
any volume cominguation.

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» No.
>> Yeah. Try that one, please. Okay.

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» Is that better? Oh, I can hear myself
now. Okay.

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Um, taking a look at your liabilities,
your accounts payable and acred

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liabilities at year end, $1.2 million
compared to $768,000

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last year. That's primarily due to
ambulance and police uh Q4 levies

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payable at year end. They were paid
subsequent to year end. So, that

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amounted to about $700,000.
and then just your trade accounts

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payable um of just under $300,000 and
some holdbacks on some of the capital

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work that you did.
Um as well you'll see your deferred

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revenue balances did go down um just by
virtue of using your funds this year for

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roads work. Um you'll see that what's
left there is uh Parkland um your

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Parkland reserve fund which has to be
disclosed as a deferred revenue uh by

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virtue of the accounting framework.
And then your asset retirement

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obligation has just gone up slightly due
to the accretion expense. Your liability

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will continue to grow as you get closer
to when you have to remediate the

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landfill and your asbestous um in the
building. And then um your debt

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repayment reduced your long-term debt.
So, your net financial assets at the end

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of the year, $8.5 million.
Taking a look at your non-financial

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assets, um your significant increase to
your tangible capital assets in the

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year, $38.8 million netbook value at
year end. So, you had uh just under $5

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million in additions this year. Um $2
million in roads work. Um, you acquired

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a a cat loader, compressor for Norwest
Wreck, a plow truck, fire trucks, and uh

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work done to the water treatment system.
So, a lot of capital this year for the

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municipality.
Um, so $4.7 million in additions. And

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then your amortization expense was $2.6
million.

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So, your total accumulated surplus at
the end of the year, $47.3 million. When

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we get to the schedule, we can see the
breakdown of that.

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Page four is the statement of
consolidated, excuse me, the

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consolidated statement of operations and
accumulated surplus. And I'll speak to

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the the center column, which are your
2025 actual results.

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So, your total revenue for the year,
$18.9 million um as compared to a budget

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of $14.4 million.
And really the the increase uh all

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almost all of that increase is due to
the landfill tipping fees um from Stuart

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Olsen uh in the year. So um you did have
um you'll notice a slight variance from

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your government in your government
transfers from the province of Ontario,

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$2.5 million budgeted, $2.1 million
actual, and that's just a result of

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projects that uh didn't take place.

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Looking at your operating expenses,
13.17

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million for the year as compared to a
budget of 13.158.

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So your operating expenses were very
close to budget. You will see a few

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lines where there's u perhaps a bit of a
higher variance um than than the budget.

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Um your protection of persons and
property $2.2 million budgeted, $2.484

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million actual. That's most of that is a
result of the police um levy being

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slightly higher than what you'd budgeted
for, about $170,000 higher. Included in

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that was uh the a levy for a new
vehicle. So a bit unusual from your

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regular operating expenses.
And then looking at health services, uh

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a million81 budgeted, $900,000 actual.
um that is lower than budget um just as

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a result of a an adjustment that was
made for an old there was an old quite

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an aged accounts payable to uh Superior
North EMS that had not been cleared out.

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Um it had been paid but not been cleared
out of the account. So that reduced your

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expense in the current year. We cleaned
that up. Um and that has reduced your

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expense. Otherwise it would have been at
your budgeted amount. Okay.

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Um so your net revenue before uh the
loss on disposal of tangible capital

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assets in the year $5.8 million
and then you had a small loss on the

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disposal of your tangible capital assets
and you had quite a number of disposals

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because you were replacing the
equipment. So you disposed of a cat

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loader, plow truck, a fire rescue truck
and a sander in the year.

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Um, so when we take that loss into
account, your annual surplus for the

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year, $5.8 million. We add that to your
accumulated surplus at the beginning of

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the year of $41.5 million, and that gets
us your accumulated surplus at the end

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of the year of $47.3 million.

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The next page is the statement of
changes in net financial assets. So what

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this schedule is really doing is um
taking your annual surplus that we just

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saw and reconciling to the net financial
asset figure uh which is on your

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statement of financial position. Um and
your net financial assets just represent

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your financial assets less your
financial liabilities at year end.

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And page six is the consolidated
statement of cash flows. So this

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provides you with information uh about
the sources and uses of cash uh for the

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municipality in the year. Um and again
you will see that your cash provided by

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operations which is the line sort of in
the middle uh of the page $9.6 million

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significantly higher than what we
normally see um because of the

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additional tipping fees in the year. And
that cash, that positive cash was used

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to acquire your tangible capital assets.
That's the biggest use of your cash each

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year, $4.7 million.
Um, and then gives you an overall

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increase in cash for the year of just
over $5 million.

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The next number of pages um represent
the notes to the financial statements.

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And um I certainly won't read you
through all of the notes uh but note one

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provi provides you with information
about the accounting policies used in

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the preparation of the financial
statements.

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Um I will take you to note number five
deferred revenue which is on page 13.

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So this gives you a breakdown of um what
makes up your deferred revenue balances

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which are which represents cash received
uh funding received with external

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restrictions that has not been used for
uh the purpose that it's been provided

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to you as of yet will be used in the
future. So right at the moment um your

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parkland um reserve fun recreational
purposes make up most of that balance.

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In the other category, most of that uh
represents unapplied tax receipts. So,

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you've received funds, they just haven't
been um applied to to uh rateayers tax

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bills. So, that's a deferred revenue as
well.

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Note number eight on the next page just
provides you with a breakdown of um your

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future dementure payments uh for the
ambulance base or the principal portion

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of your debenture payments for the
ambulance base and lets the users know

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that um there is an agreement
um whereby your the rent uh payments

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received help offset those payments.

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Note number nine on page 15 was a new
note last year. So this is your asset

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retirement obligation note um and really
is just providing uh readers with

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information about the balances um at the
beginning of the year. The accretion

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expense again that will continue to go
up as you get closer to the time you

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have to satisfy those liabilities and
then the balance at the end of the year.

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And then the bottom table is really just
showing users that um the anticipated

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time when you'd have to be remediating
is well beyond the year of 2030.

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Um I will take you now to schedule one
the financial statements which is on

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page 25.

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So this provides you with a breakdown of
the accumulated surplus that we saw on

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the statement of financial position and
the bottom of the statement of

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operations and accumulated surplus.
You'll see that I'll start at the in the

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reserves and reserve funds. So you'll
see that your total reserves at the end

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of the year $4.25 million and your
reserve funds $1.7 million.

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And then if we move up to the top
section, um your general fund surplus at

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the end of the year, $4.4 million, and
it's reflected in these financial

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statements, but you do have a standing
resolution to transfer that uh into

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reserves. So for the final statements,
that will um be transferred into

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reserves, but wanted you to be able to
see what that surplus was at the end of

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the year.
Your investment in tangible capital

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assets, $38.8 million.
And then your unfunded um liabilities at

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the end of the year uh make are made up
of your debt and your asset retirement

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obligations. So those are show shown as
negative surpluses or deficits because

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um you have to set up those liabilities
for accounting purposes, but you levy

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and pay for those as you go along. You
haven't fully funded those liabilities

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at this point in time. So your total
surpluses before your reserves and

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reserve funds, $41.4 4 million.

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The next schedule is the um consolidated
schedule of tangible capital assets and

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this just provides more detail about the
activity in your um tangible capital

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assets. So starting with um the cost at
the beginning of the year, we see your

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additions of $4.7 million, but we get to
see it by category on this particular

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schedule. you did have disposals uh in
the year. So that comes out and then the

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same thing with your accumulated
amortization, your balance at the

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beginning of the year, your amortization
expense for the year, and then the uh

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accumulated amortization related to the
assets that were disposed of. So all of

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that reconciles down to your netbook
value of $38.8 million.

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And the last two pages of your financial
statements represent schedule three,

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which is um your segmented disclosure.
So this is taking all of the information

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that we saw on um consolidated statement
of operations, but breaking it out by

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breaking your revenues and expenses out
by function or by department as well as

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breaking your expenses out by object. So
showing the nature of the expenses um by

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their categories, salaries, materials
etc.

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So the numbers are just roll up into
that consolidated statement in total.

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There any questions?

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Mr. Peacock.
>> Thank you. Thanks, Rosie. Um, with

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regard to on page 25, I'm not sure if
it's a question for you or for John, but

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it it still indicates that we have a
reserve fund for the LRCA building. And

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and I believe that that was from years
ago when we were going to have to put

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some funds away um for a conservation
authority building, but then that never

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happened. So um
should that reserve fund be closed or uh

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that fund be put somewhere else?
>> We have actually gone through this year

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and we've identified uh three or four
historic reserves that were set up um

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that we don't think we we need to carry
anymore. and uh we'll bring forward at

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some point a resolution to ask council
to close those reserves and move the

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funds to a proper place.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

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» that's it.
>> Okay.

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Thank you very much, Rose, for coming
out and

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Yes. Yes, we are in good shape, which is
nice to know.

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» I wish I could give everybody that kind
of result each year. Um, if I may, your

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worship, sorry, I should have mentioned
um there were a couple of items that uh

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John and Wayne noticed, excuse me, your
CEO and your deputy uh CEO noticed today

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that won't change your bottom line, but
will just change whether um an item is

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in your operating surplus or your
reserve.

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» Okay?
>> Not talking big dollars here. So it will

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just change where categories are sitting
in your accumulated surplus and we'll

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make that adjustment.
>> Yes. Yes.

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» So uh to the chair, do we run the risk
and this may be as a question that's a

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little broader than presentation of
these statements. Do we run the risk of

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uh in 2025 being a little bit blind to
other issues because of the windfall

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that we received? because I there there
were some

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I mean there were some changes uh to the
amounts that were beyond budget that

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were not to our benefit but I mean
everything's covered up by this windfall

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I guess I don't know if you'd comment on
that maybe.

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» So really if if um you take a good thing
would be to take a look at schedule one

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for a moment.
So if we look at schedule one

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um you see last year there was a general
fund deficit. So sorry it's on page 25.

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Oops.
Last year there was a general fund

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deficit but that was there because uh
there was knowledge that um there would

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be loan proceeds coming in 2025 to to
finance that. Otherwise you normally any

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surplus or any surplus you have
automatically goes into your reserves.

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Um so looking at your general fund uh
surplus at the end of the year 4.48

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million
that definitely has provided a positive

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impact to your financial statements. But
when you look at your other revenues and

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then your other expenses your operating
expenses were just slightly higher than

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what you'd budgeted for. Honestly really
very close when we take a look at that

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on the consolidated statement. um 13.17
million versus 13.158 million. And

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[clears throat] your uh revenues were,
if we take the impact of the landfill

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out, your revenues were slightly um
under budget, but not a significant

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amount. So, I understand exactly what
you're asking. I don't think it's really

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masking any issues.

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» Any further questions? Oh, councelor
Peacock,

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» thank you. Just one further comment. Um,
tax receivable, glad to see that it is

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going down from from previous year and I
realize that um it's been an effort to

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between the new system that we have and
consolidating previous uh accounting

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program that we had. So, thanks to
administration

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and uh the treasurer for for the efforts
to get this out to us. Thank you. Any

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further questions? No. Thank you very
much for coming out this evening. Again,

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I'm glad it's good news. We hope so.
Every year,

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watch out for the smoke.

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Okay, next item that we have on our
agenda.

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Uh, we have a resolution that's been
moved and seconded to go into close

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session. The time being 5:33 p.m.
It has been moved and seconded. All in

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favor? Opposed? It's carried. So, we'll
now take a couple minutes to if anybody

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has to leave or whatever and then we
will go into in camera.

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We have a resolution approving the
minutes of the close session meeting

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held on June the 24th. It's been moved
and seconded. All in favor? Opposed?

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Harried. The next item we have is a
resolution with approval of the dorsal

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fin contract. It's been moved and
seconded. Any further discussion? All in

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favor? Opposed? carried. And then uh we
have the bylaw approving the uh contract

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with the dorsal fin organization. It's
been moved and seconded. All in favor?

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Opposed? Carried.
We have the minutes of our regular

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council meeting held on June the 24th
for approval. The it's been moved and

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seconded. Uh any errors or omissions?
All in favor? Opposed? Carried. Any

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discussion on any item of those minutes?
That's page 13 to 28y.

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» Yes.
>> 10 uh B

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» 10B. Yeah, on page
11 of 16 or page 23, it was about that

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that motion that resolution that we had
thing and it went to the Thunder Bay

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District Municipal League and they
weren't too favorable for it about the

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equalization more payments.
>> Of course they aren't because the

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Northshore gets going to have to pay
their way.

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» Yeah, I tried to make my case. I said
they're not uh they they

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» no interest. No, they're not because
they will be the ones that they are

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right now not paying the same as we are.
>> Exactly. So I I said this was a hybrid

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model that they were looking at and
possibility of paying but

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we can you make your case and they
didn't.

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» I know. Yeah. Thank you for trying.
Appreciate that.

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» Yes.
>> Excuse me. Um, I did send the uh on page

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21 um it says that I had a a letter from
resident um with regard to the MTO and

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uh WSP public meeting. I did send it on
to Wayne today, but uh anyways, just to

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follow up that he had the gentleman has
already forwarded it to the powers that

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be, but uh we do have a copy here for
us. [clears throat]

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» Good.
Okay. The next item is a

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next item is the one that
which is yours, Carrie.

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» Just let us know which is yours.
>> Budget first.

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surplus.
>> Oh, okay. Because I thought we were

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doing Carrie,

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isn't it?
>> No, it's because of the time she has to

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leave.
>> So, and she has a report to give to us.

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So, if you could tell us which item it
is, Carrie,

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» um, it's on page 38 of your package. Um,
2026118.

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» Oh, the crossroads subdivision.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
And uh that that is on page four of our

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agenda. There's the new copy on our desk
because the one that was in the agenda

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has been changed and we'll pass on the
report.

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Did you just want to answer questions on
the report or

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» Sure. Yeah. It's it's just the
recommendation report. So the majority

425
02:52:25,279 --> 02:52:32,000
of the report is the same as what was
presented at the public meeting. M

426
02:52:28,960 --> 02:52:38,000
» um and then responding to the concerns
from the single resident that spoke

427
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:42,479
» is on page 43.
>> All righty. So, were there any comments

428
02:52:40,560 --> 02:52:49,359
or any questions of the council of
planner with this this uh crossroads

429
02:52:46,399 --> 02:52:55,359
subdivision? This is a proposal to
develop uh the subdivision and uh these

430
02:52:53,439 --> 02:53:01,640
are all conditions that have to be met.
>> Yeah. This is for draft approval.

431
02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:01,640
» Yes. So, councelor Peacock,

432
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:10,160
» thank you. So,
the road A, street A, street,

433
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:12,800
however they're going to access this
land because right now it's landlocked.

434
02:53:12,479 --> 02:53:16,000
So,
>> it's not landlocked.

435
02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:20,560
» It's not.
>> It's not landlocked.

436
02:53:17,359 --> 02:53:25,120
» And where is their frontage?
>> Where is it?

437
02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:29,040
» Crossroads Highway 1117.
their access to this though

438
02:53:26,880 --> 02:53:32,000
» is road street A off of Twin City
Crossroads.

439
02:53:29,600 --> 02:53:37,920
» Okay.
>> So to bring that road to up to standard

440
02:53:35,439 --> 02:53:40,800
that's part of the condition then that
>> in your conditions 3A.

441
02:53:39,840 --> 02:53:44,080
» Yes.
>> You're not you're are you looking at the

442
02:53:42,720 --> 02:53:48,640
form that was on your desk?
>> Yep. The new one here. Yes. Okay. So

443
02:53:46,240 --> 02:53:51,120
that it's up to them.
>> It's always up to the

444
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:56,880
» to the developer.
>> Yes. Always the subdivision owner. Now

445
02:53:53,920 --> 02:53:59,880
on page
41,

446
02:54:00,080 --> 02:54:10,000
last paragraph, LRCA,
it says LRC CA will support lots 7, 8,

447
02:54:06,319 --> 02:54:14,160
11, 12, 13, 14, and five.
>> 15.

448
02:54:11,359 --> 02:54:18,560
» You're not This report says five. Okay.
Because then they didn't approve five.

449
02:54:16,160 --> 02:54:24,120
So that's why I wondered. Okay. Thank
you.

450
02:54:21,120 --> 02:54:24,120
And

451
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:37,279
Do we have any further comments
with regard to Cooper Road North? What's

452
02:54:35,200 --> 02:54:42,080
going to happen with that?
>> Um, condition 8 is written the way that

453
02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:47,600
it is so that they have time to deal
with MTO. There's a 5-year period for

454
02:54:44,640 --> 02:54:50,760
them through draft approval to sort out
the MTO.

455
02:54:52,960 --> 02:55:02,240
So, there was monies put aside in our
budget, but I'm just not sure what that

456
02:54:59,279 --> 02:55:07,680
was to cover for Cooper Road North
>> where it states none of the 20250k

457
02:55:05,680 --> 02:55:12,680
and budget 26 will be spent unless there
is a subdiv.

458
02:55:09,680 --> 02:55:12,680
» Okay.

459
02:55:15,279 --> 02:55:21,279
Okay. Were there any other questions in
regards to this uh

460
02:55:19,600 --> 02:55:27,120
this
additions for the plan draft plan of

461
02:55:23,359 --> 02:55:31,200
subdivision of any of the council
>> question

462
02:55:29,200 --> 02:55:34,399
like where would that be just before the
race track

463
02:55:32,720 --> 02:55:37,840
» Alan you have to speak
>> I'm sorry

464
02:55:35,680 --> 02:55:42,479
» you call the sock then on this coup road
if it's developed that would be done

465
02:55:40,319 --> 02:55:44,080
just ahead of the where the racetrack
is. It's right at the other side of the

466
02:55:43,840 --> 02:55:46,720
fence.
>> Right here at the other side of the

467
02:55:45,040 --> 02:55:49,520
fence because they bought the strip off
of Monteth.

468
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:54,640
» They bought the 33 feet. So the
culde-sac would be between the 33 ft of

469
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:57,120
Monteth and 33 ft of the developers land
on their land.

470
02:55:55,920 --> 02:56:02,640
» Okay. So they bought it from
>> until Cooper with MTO gets met.

471
02:56:00,240 --> 02:56:07,200
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Yes. Councelor Peacock.

472
02:56:05,279 --> 02:56:12,479
» Sorry, just one further question. I know
that we've met a number of times with

473
02:56:09,760 --> 02:56:20,399
different agencies uh and ministries
with regard to the lack of hydro um

474
02:56:16,720 --> 02:56:25,920
availability like the power course. Is
that can that be detrimental detrimental

475
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:32,880
to the developments that we're approving
as far as the uh

476
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:37,279
the hydro situation that there isn't
enough power in the lines to support

477
02:56:35,200 --> 02:56:43,120
industries.
>> Uh the onus is on the developer to

478
02:56:39,840 --> 02:56:48,160
ensure that that is in the development.
So um I would assume that they've made

479
02:56:46,240 --> 02:56:52,160
sure that that exists prior to going
forward. I guess you don't know what's

480
02:56:49,920 --> 02:56:56,240
going in there. So, it's pretty hard to
to uh prove that as well.

481
02:56:54,560 --> 02:57:00,560
» Camphoff.
>> Yeah. I think in my recollection the

482
02:56:58,160 --> 02:57:05,520
bigger issues with hydro infrastructure
were with uh generation

483
02:57:03,520 --> 02:57:09,840
and how it couldn't be integrated into
the grid. So, I don't I there there may

484
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:14,560
be concerns. I have no idea. But I don't
think that's been really identified that

485
02:57:11,680 --> 02:57:17,840
there was supply issues for something
like of this scale.

486
02:57:15,760 --> 02:57:22,399
» And we do circulate to hydro. So I would
assume their comments would reflect

487
02:57:19,279 --> 02:57:28,960
concerns like that if they existed. So
that's right. Okay.

488
02:57:24,880 --> 02:57:34,160
Anything else? Any other questions?
So we do have

489
02:57:32,240 --> 02:57:38,040
a resolution.
See what did you see here?

490
02:57:39,279 --> 02:57:46,800
And this is this is the new resolution
was on our desk. So it has been moved

491
02:57:44,080 --> 02:57:54,640
and seconded. So any further questions
or discussion on this?

492
02:57:50,479 --> 02:57:58,479
» Okay. All in favor? Opposed? Carried.
Was there any other thing at the carry

493
02:57:56,479 --> 02:58:01,439
that was for you to report today?
>> Uh only if there's questions about the

494
02:58:00,080 --> 02:58:06,319
building report.
>> Okay.

495
02:58:04,160 --> 02:58:09,279
» Oh, and then I have the deferral for the
the golf

496
02:58:08,319 --> 02:58:11,359
subdivision.
>> Okay.

497
02:58:09,520 --> 02:58:17,200
» Um if anyone had questions about that.
>> Okay. Well, the building department

498
02:58:12,800 --> 02:58:20,200
report is on page 30 to 37. So to that
one,

499
02:58:22,240 --> 02:58:31,279
they had quite we have a quite
impressive re revenue or sorry cost of

500
02:58:27,520 --> 02:58:35,439
construction this year compared to last
year.

501
02:58:33,600 --> 02:58:40,240
» Costs are going up to build.
>> It's over $17 million being going on

502
02:58:38,080 --> 02:58:44,960
right now.
Were there any any questions for the

503
02:58:42,319 --> 02:58:49,080
planner in regards to the uh building
permit report?

504
02:58:51,680 --> 02:59:01,200
Okay. So, that was there's no resolution
with that. And the one other one was u

505
02:58:58,240 --> 02:59:05,920
page 6D and this is the municipal golf
course deferral.

506
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:08,560
And did we have you would just say if
there were questions?

507
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:12,880
» Yeah, just if there's questions. Okay.
Does anybody

508
02:59:10,479 --> 02:59:15,880
um have any questions in regards to that
defl?

509
02:59:16,160 --> 02:59:22,880
» I the question I have is I don't know if
our staff can answer it because it's in

510
02:59:20,080 --> 02:59:28,399
the letter from the city of Thunder Bay.
Um, page 49 just to maybe help me

511
02:59:25,359 --> 02:59:31,760
clarify in my head what they mean, but
they're talking in the second paragraph

512
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:35,359
down. It says, "A proposed servicing
region being municipal water in

513
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:39,760
combination with communal sewage system
represents a form of partial servicing."

514
02:59:38,240 --> 02:59:41,200
» Is that partial servicing?
>> No,

515
02:59:40,240 --> 02:59:45,279
» I didn't think so.
>> It's not.

516
02:59:42,080 --> 02:59:48,960
» So, okay. Okay. But it doesn't sound
like they're super excited to sign a

517
02:59:47,760 --> 02:59:55,040
deal just yet. So,
>> correct. Yeah. That's why he's deferring

518
02:59:51,600 --> 02:59:57,840
it. Any other question it up?
>> That's right. So that's just for your

519
02:59:57,040 --> 03:00:02,800
information.
>> Yeah.

520
02:59:58,800 --> 03:00:07,880
» Okay, Carrie. Thank you very much,
>> and then we have fire department. Sean,

521
03:00:08,160 --> 03:00:16,880
» we've got those. Which ones did we want?
>> No. No. Sean, I said Sean, did you have

522
03:00:14,640 --> 03:00:20,640
to go somewhere? Nope. Okay. Well, then
we'll just go according to the list we

523
03:00:18,479 --> 03:00:25,520
have here.
>> Yes. back on schedule. So, reports of uh

524
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:30,960
the 2025 consolidated financial
statements and budget surplus. We do

525
03:00:27,840 --> 03:00:35,880
have a budget surplus and uh we would
like it to be going to what reserve?

526
03:00:36,960 --> 03:00:41,520
» Pardon? Working
>> our favorite the working fund. Then

527
03:00:40,319 --> 03:00:43,040
we'll figure it out from there.
>> That's what I would

528
03:00:42,560 --> 03:00:48,399
» and then
>> but is that agreeable to you? It's on

529
03:00:45,600 --> 03:00:53,120
page 29. And
>> the figure we need to move then is on

530
03:00:50,800 --> 03:00:56,120
page four of your statements of
>> $5,817,686

531
03:00:56,800 --> 03:01:04,080
net revenue before under Oh, sorry,
that's wrong. It's 5810 555. We got to

532
03:01:01,600 --> 03:01:07,600
take into the account the
I'll put that in.

533
03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:11,840
» Okay.
So that's 50 5,800

534
03:01:10,960 --> 03:01:17,439
» and 555
>> and 555.

535
03:01:15,040 --> 03:01:22,960
» That's it. and it will be going to the
working funds we reserve if that's okay

536
03:01:20,479 --> 03:01:28,190
with council.
Okay, any discussion?

537
03:01:24,399 --> 03:01:32,479
» First stone bridge working funds.
[laughter]

538
03:01:29,359 --> 03:01:35,880
» Just to clarify, working reserve is a
accounting entry.

539
03:01:36,399 --> 03:01:44,560
» It's not. It's actual cash.
>> That's right. It's just a number that

540
03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:50,319
showed up on the
Any further discussion? All in favor?

541
03:01:47,840 --> 03:01:57,200
Opposed? It's been carried.
Uh and then we can skip a couple pages

542
03:01:52,800 --> 03:02:03,279
and we get to the 2026 to 2030 Province
of Ontario Mutual Aid Plan Executive

543
03:01:59,600 --> 03:02:11,520
Summary 54 to 72.
And this is for information

544
03:02:06,880 --> 03:02:11,520
which is interesting to read.

545
03:02:12,319 --> 03:02:21,600
But um any questions of our
our uh fire chief?

546
03:02:18,560 --> 03:02:28,080
» Well, just a comment as I was reading
through there. Uh it's it's a well

547
03:02:24,399 --> 03:02:33,359
doumented paper. How is do you see
anything that stands out here that would

548
03:02:30,640 --> 03:02:36,880
be detrimental to your municipality at
all? Or do you see on the opposite side?

549
03:02:35,680 --> 03:02:42,479
Is there something really good that
you're glad you see that's in here?

550
03:02:39,600 --> 03:02:48,000
Well, I'm I'm glad uh to the firefighter
certification requirements in there. Um

551
03:02:45,279 --> 03:02:52,960
it's it will be challenging for the
departments that aren't necessarily up

552
03:02:50,319 --> 03:02:59,760
to the certification requirements.
Um but um I think people are working

553
03:02:55,920 --> 03:03:03,600
towards it. Um
there is still a lot of work that has to

554
03:03:01,760 --> 03:03:07,840
get done. The appendices, the deployment
model and the emergency contact

555
03:03:06,000 --> 03:03:15,040
information. I wanted to speak to those.
So this I was going to bring a bylaw in

556
03:03:11,279 --> 03:03:19,200
to get acceptance to follow it, but when
you start doing the appendix is actually

557
03:03:17,680 --> 03:03:25,120
what happens is it turns into the
Thunder Bay mutual aid plan. So the

558
03:03:22,880 --> 03:03:30,800
deployment model needs to get uh
completed in order to write the Thunder

559
03:03:27,279 --> 03:03:36,240
Bay plan. That's why there's no bylaw in
in here. And if you go to I believe it's

560
03:03:33,439 --> 03:03:42,960
page
um the deployment. So we're at page 58.

561
03:03:39,359 --> 03:03:45,120
I think 58 of 159 is where it starts.
>> Yes. The deployment model.

562
03:03:44,479 --> 03:03:52,720
» Yeah.
>> So what has to happen is um and we have

563
03:03:48,319 --> 03:03:57,439
to work as a zone is I for each station
I've got to put in who I'm going to

564
03:03:55,279 --> 03:04:03,680
request assistance from and what I'm
going to request from them. So if we

565
03:04:00,319 --> 03:04:09,120
just say Intel for example, my resource
option is one going to be cam fire

566
03:04:06,399 --> 03:04:12,560
department for people, campfire
department for a pumper, cam fire

567
03:04:10,960 --> 03:04:16,080
department for a tanker, and then it's
got to go through, but I can't just say

568
03:04:14,479 --> 03:04:20,560
that. They've got to be able to provide
that service. So there's there's going

569
03:04:18,960 --> 03:04:24,960
to be some work that has to happen to
get this Thunder Bay mutual aid plan in

570
03:04:22,560 --> 03:04:30,000
place. Um, I've already spoken to the
OFM about it, saying we've got to get on

571
03:04:26,880 --> 03:04:34,240
this to get get this done, but we got to
talk as a group because each

572
03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:39,040
department's going to have to do this
with who they're going to call for

573
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:43,200
mutual aid. So, it's I don't think it's
a huge job, but there's going to be some

574
03:04:40,960 --> 03:04:47,760
work that has to get done to to develop
it.

575
03:04:44,800 --> 03:04:52,720
Um, so that's that's a big part of it.
And then this emergency contact which is

576
03:04:50,000 --> 03:04:57,040
the second part in the asset report that
makes up the Thunder Bay plan that all

577
03:04:54,880 --> 03:05:01,279
comes from the profile. So I've already
done the profile and submitted it. I I

578
03:04:59,840 --> 03:05:04,800
referenced in the report about the
certification update where they were

579
03:05:02,960 --> 03:05:08,880
asking about number of firefighters that
certified and all that. That's where

580
03:05:06,160 --> 03:05:15,279
this is going to come into effect.
And I put in the um the non-municipal

581
03:05:12,080 --> 03:05:19,520
participaction. So they don't do the uh
profiles.

582
03:05:16,800 --> 03:05:23,840
So, all of the information in this non
non-municipal uh form that they have to

583
03:05:22,399 --> 03:05:28,720
fill out, that's basically everything
that I put into the profile. So, it

584
03:05:27,439 --> 03:05:33,200
gives you a sense of what kind of
information they're looking for to make

585
03:05:30,880 --> 03:05:38,240
this mutual aid plan, the Thunder Bay
district mutual aid plan.

586
03:05:36,319 --> 03:05:43,359
» So, your plan will be part of the
Thunder Bay plan or it just falls under

587
03:05:41,200 --> 03:05:49,200
the umbrella of the Thunder Bay plan. So
the uh the Ontario plan that I gave at

588
03:05:46,960 --> 03:05:53,840
the last meeting that's the umbrella and
then underneath that each district has a

589
03:05:52,399 --> 03:05:56,800
district specific plan.
>> Oh okay. So

590
03:05:54,640 --> 03:06:02,319
» and it's based on the deployment models
and the um and the asset information.

591
03:06:01,279 --> 03:06:06,640
So,
>> councelor this.

592
03:06:03,120 --> 03:06:14,880
» Yeah. T the what bothered me most as I
went through here is

593
03:06:09,520 --> 03:06:21,040
» what happens what happens now uh if the
the fire department calls for mutual aid

594
03:06:17,600 --> 03:06:26,240
which is all proponed and they have only
external firefighting

595
03:06:23,439 --> 03:06:30,960
and it's an internal problem. How do you
deal with that? So the deployment model

596
03:06:28,479 --> 03:06:35,040
is supposed to capture that for me to
say that I'm not going to request them

597
03:06:32,720 --> 03:06:40,080
for interior attack. I request them for
>> just stop you there for a minute. My

598
03:06:36,640 --> 03:06:45,120
point is if you've that scene and let's
use commia for the example and you've

599
03:06:42,720 --> 03:06:51,279
got there and uhoh there's someone
inside now what

600
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:56,880
see that's I concerns me more because
the the onus is going to be whoever goes

601
03:06:54,479 --> 03:07:02,560
there. You see what I'm saying? 100%. So
it turns into a moral uh u moral

602
03:07:00,000 --> 03:07:06,800
question and the incident commander is
going to have to make decisions based on

603
03:07:04,319 --> 03:07:12,640
what's coming. This deployment model is
supposed to give us the tools ahead of

604
03:07:08,800 --> 03:07:17,040
time to say that I can't ask for anybody
in Kebeca

605
03:07:14,640 --> 03:07:22,800
because there are no interior attack
people in Kabeka. So if I need um in the

606
03:07:20,479 --> 03:07:27,040
Kebeca area I need interior attack
people I don't call con. I'm going to

607
03:07:24,399 --> 03:07:30,880
call Thunder Bay to come in to that
distance. If I need a pumper truck,

608
03:07:29,120 --> 03:07:34,800
Commie's got a pumper truck, so I can
ask for that. They've got firefighter

609
03:07:32,880 --> 03:07:39,520
ones, then I that's what I ask for out
of out of town meet.

610
03:07:37,520 --> 03:07:43,840
» There's there's a lot of work to to sort
this all out and we all got to be at the

611
03:07:41,359 --> 03:07:47,600
table talking like I I when I talked to
the OFM about it, I said I need to do

612
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:52,720
this and I can't do it without sitting
and talking to all the partners to say,

613
03:07:50,080 --> 03:07:56,080
is this what you can provide?
I guess that's my point. You know,

614
03:07:54,160 --> 03:08:00,560
everybody really better understand
because this changes the whole scenario.

615
03:07:58,399 --> 03:08:05,920
Neighbor helping neighbor that's gone.
It's just all professional stuff now.

616
03:08:02,720 --> 03:08:10,640
So, and and I found that I said, "Oh,
I'm glad I'm not a volunteer fire

617
03:08:07,439 --> 03:08:13,520
department member anymore because what
happens when I go there and there's

618
03:08:12,399 --> 03:08:18,080
somebody in there I'm going to go and
try and get to get out." That's just

619
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:21,760
nature.
That's where does that leave reliability

620
03:08:20,160 --> 03:08:25,760
» and that's the decision that the people
have to make on the scene and that's

621
03:08:23,279 --> 03:08:27,040
it's um I think this improves our
situation.

622
03:08:26,560 --> 03:08:31,040
» Okay.
>> Because it does it it improves it in the

623
03:08:29,439 --> 03:08:35,040
sense that we're putting it on the table
and then we're going to have to say well

624
03:08:33,120 --> 03:08:39,840
if such and such fire department if
you've got nothing to offer then you're

625
03:08:36,960 --> 03:08:43,920
not part of mutual aid. So if you can't
come and help me then we're not coming

626
03:08:41,439 --> 03:08:48,319
to help you. And it's going to force
that hand in a lot of areas.

627
03:08:49,200 --> 03:08:54,000
Peacock.
>> Thank you. When I look at the core

628
03:08:52,160 --> 03:09:02,319
services,
um, and that's on page 64 and 65,

629
03:08:58,960 --> 03:09:04,560
there are a lot of things that we don't
offer. Am I correct?

630
03:09:03,840 --> 03:09:09,120
» That's right.
>> So, these are all of the services that

631
03:09:06,880 --> 03:09:13,120
are out there. And when we do the
profile, I say yes or no based on our

632
03:09:11,840 --> 03:09:16,000
enabling bylaw.
>> Okay.

633
03:09:15,520 --> 03:09:19,680
Okay.
>> So, there's there's a lot on here that

634
03:09:17,520 --> 03:09:23,359
we do not do. I just say nope. We don't
provide that service.

635
03:09:22,880 --> 03:09:25,520
» Okay.
>> NA.

636
03:09:24,160 --> 03:09:28,960
» NA. Exactly.
>> Yeah.

637
03:09:26,240 --> 03:09:31,520
» Any other questions about the report?
No.

638
03:09:29,600 --> 03:09:35,520
» Being continued.
>> Okay. The next item we have is the

639
03:09:33,200 --> 03:09:41,520
comments on Highway 1117 widening and
rerouting project.

640
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:46,080
We have the letter here that was done by
administration and we have a resolution

641
03:09:43,840 --> 03:09:53,200
moved and seconded to accept that report
and submit it to to the uh MTO and I

642
03:09:51,279 --> 03:09:57,439
believe the
the other company WSP.

643
03:09:56,880 --> 03:10:02,880
Yes,
>> Lucia wonder and I I I think this is

644
03:09:59,920 --> 03:10:08,800
well written they should it go also to
maybe the ministry in Toronto you know

645
03:10:05,840 --> 03:10:13,840
Mr. Tom Compound is just a local leader
on this project, but I I think we need

646
03:10:11,680 --> 03:10:18,080
to go way beyond that. And I think it's
a wellwritten letter and I thought maybe

647
03:10:16,160 --> 03:10:22,800
we could send that to the ministry to
Toronto as a copy and say, you know,

648
03:10:20,880 --> 03:10:26,720
this is what we're dealing with. Is that
possible?

649
03:10:23,439 --> 03:10:31,040
» We can CC it to the premier even and
yeah, and the local Kevin Holland to the

650
03:10:28,800 --> 03:10:35,040
local representative. they can all get.
>> We can do that. I appreciate because I

651
03:10:32,880 --> 03:10:37,439
think it's well written and what you've
got too is our concerns. There's no

652
03:10:36,720 --> 03:10:40,399
doubt. So,
>> yes.

653
03:10:38,640 --> 03:10:44,160
» Yeah, we can certainly do that.
>> Thank you.

654
03:10:41,439 --> 03:10:47,840
» The minister, Minister of Transportation
himself directly and

655
03:10:45,920 --> 03:10:53,200
» because you know all Northern Ontario
now is on the hot trot and there's 1178.

656
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:55,680
So, the more we can put in there, I
think it might just help just a little

657
03:10:54,960 --> 03:11:00,560
wee bit.
>> Yes.

658
03:10:57,520 --> 03:11:06,000
» Okay. Yes. Just wanted to comment that
we talked about Cony last week. So this

659
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:09,200
uh draft letter was presented to them
and their council is supposed to be

660
03:11:07,279 --> 03:11:13,840
looking at it this evening and the clerk
indicated to me that likely that council

661
03:11:11,279 --> 03:11:17,560
is going to submit something on this
project.

662
03:11:14,560 --> 03:11:17,560
» Wonderful.

663
03:11:17,760 --> 03:11:23,920
» Okay.
So we do have the resolution uh

664
03:11:21,439 --> 03:11:28,880
recommending submission of this letter.
Any further discussion? It's been moved

665
03:11:26,319 --> 03:11:32,319
and seconded. All in favor? opposed
carried.

666
03:11:30,720 --> 03:11:35,600
The next item we have is bids and
tenders procurement platform. There is a

667
03:11:34,240 --> 03:11:43,439
resolution that's been moved and
seconded um in regards to uh joining

668
03:11:39,279 --> 03:11:50,319
this full platform procurement solution.
It's uh this I' personally I've been

669
03:11:47,359 --> 03:11:56,000
through this system uh with uh with two
clients in years previous and it's it's

670
03:11:53,200 --> 03:11:59,520
a terrific system. You put your bids and
tenders out there and it goes to all

671
03:11:57,760 --> 03:12:06,319
over the place.
>> And uh um

672
03:12:03,120 --> 03:12:10,240
all people can Yes.
>> Two questions. Uh number one, is this

673
03:12:08,720 --> 03:12:13,680
like a private company that's running
this

674
03:12:12,240 --> 03:12:18,800
bids and tenders thing?
>> Um yeah, it's it's it's a weird kind of

675
03:12:16,880 --> 03:12:24,319
setup, but it's it's a it's a private
company, but it's also um connected to

676
03:12:23,120 --> 03:12:27,040
AMOL. Okay.
>> So,

677
03:12:25,120 --> 03:12:30,479
» okay. Second question is, if it's so
great, why are we just hearing about it

678
03:12:28,560 --> 03:12:34,880
now?
>> I I don't know. I can't speak for

679
03:12:32,800 --> 03:12:40,560
previous treasures why they they didn't
do it, but u

680
03:12:36,720 --> 03:12:46,560
» but u yeah I I uh we we're always
looking to improve and u so if we can

681
03:12:43,520 --> 03:12:51,760
improve now we should uh we should look
at improving the way we do things.

682
03:12:49,040 --> 03:12:56,640
» Yeah, there's a cost to it. And we we
were a member of bids and tenders but

683
03:12:53,359 --> 03:13:00,800
used it to source tenders that we could
adapt to go out to for our procurement,

684
03:13:00,399 --> 03:13:05,760
» right?
>> This is a procurement site.

685
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:11,000
» Well, more we were like a visitor 350
bucks a year or something we could pay

686
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:11,000
to look at everybody else's.

687
03:13:11,760 --> 03:13:14,760
» Yeah.

688
03:13:14,880 --> 03:13:23,200
» Councelor P. Cook, we'll have to be
mindful should this get approved to uh

689
03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:29,600
put that additional amount in our budget
each year for the license. But which

690
03:13:27,520 --> 03:13:38,160
department or which staff would then be
responsible um to take the training?

691
03:13:33,920 --> 03:13:44,000
» Uh well well um the
training would be um I guess it's a tier

692
03:13:40,960 --> 03:13:49,920
training system. So uh people
responsible for uh such as myself for

693
03:13:47,279 --> 03:13:56,479
approvals and Wayne would take uh
training on the approval process. Uh

694
03:13:53,600 --> 03:14:01,600
other staff would take uh training on
things that are relevant to them. So um

695
03:13:59,200 --> 03:14:07,439
the AP clerk may take training on it for
you know tracking contracts. Um asset

696
03:14:04,479 --> 03:14:13,680
management may take uh training on uh
preparing tenders uh that type of stuff.

697
03:14:10,479 --> 03:14:17,760
So would all depend on on on the rules.
We haven't set the rules yet as we're

698
03:14:15,680 --> 03:14:21,399
not.
>> Okay. Thank you.

699
03:14:30,800 --> 03:14:41,239
So, any further thoughts or questions on
it or I'm not quite sure how much it

700
03:14:37,120 --> 03:14:41,239
would help us or not, but

701
03:14:44,080 --> 03:14:50,000
it will get to more people if if that
helps the municipality. Some of the

702
03:14:48,479 --> 03:14:54,960
products, some of the things that happen
here happen for example our chip

703
03:14:52,640 --> 03:14:59,760
ceiling. It's it's just goes to whoever
is doing it all along. You know, it

704
03:14:56,560 --> 03:15:06,800
doesn't really go anywhere else, but
equipment perhaps and uh uh contracts

705
03:15:03,439 --> 03:15:10,960
for other Yes. engineering jobs.
>> Yeah. Well, John did do some uh looking

706
03:15:08,960 --> 03:15:16,000
into different roofers that are
available uh outside of pin and tenders

707
03:15:13,920 --> 03:15:21,200
on our roofing contract and some put in
a bid that never knew that we did any

708
03:15:18,319 --> 03:15:24,399
work out here. So, when you go into
something like this, there's some

709
03:15:22,239 --> 03:15:30,239
vendors out there that aren't aware of
our job solicitations. That's the idea.

710
03:15:27,760 --> 03:15:34,399
I do know that contractors, whatever
field they work in, go and check that

711
03:15:32,560 --> 03:15:36,960
out at least once or twice a month to
see what jobs pop up that they can bid

712
03:15:36,239 --> 03:15:40,319
on.
>> Well, if you're a member of the Thunder

713
03:15:38,160 --> 03:15:43,279
Bay Construction Association, you're
automatically notified because

714
03:15:42,399 --> 03:15:48,160
Construction
>> Association, for example, those will be

715
03:15:45,920 --> 03:15:52,800
notified if we post something and then
they can send it out to their members

716
03:15:50,880 --> 03:15:58,479
» that goes up. Uh the other thing it does
too though is is the thing is it is it

717
03:15:55,520 --> 03:16:04,080
uh allows for better compliance uh with
our procurement bylaw. So um you know

718
03:16:02,319 --> 03:16:10,000
there's a process that has to be
followed. So if someone submits a bid

719
03:16:07,840 --> 03:16:13,840
that's incomplete,
they're notified that the bid didn't

720
03:16:11,920 --> 03:16:17,680
meet, you know, say they didn't include
a a WSIB clearance certificate or proof

721
03:16:16,560 --> 03:16:20,080
of insurance or something.
>> Yeah.

722
03:16:18,160 --> 03:16:25,439
» So they're notified that their bid is
income. Uh and also the approvals are

723
03:16:23,520 --> 03:16:29,600
are coordinated all the way along the
line. So if something needs say Wayne's

724
03:16:28,000 --> 03:16:33,760
approval before it can go to the next
stage, it won't go to the next stage

725
03:16:31,439 --> 03:16:37,840
until Wayne approves it. So that type of
stuff helps.

726
03:16:35,760 --> 03:16:43,920
» Okay. And so and when when for example,
if we get four bids on a tender, is this

727
03:16:41,040 --> 03:16:48,000
going to increase the the is it going to
come back to council faster or is it

728
03:16:46,000 --> 03:16:51,760
going to be delayed? Because we like we
like to see it fast in the spring. It

729
03:16:49,840 --> 03:16:54,960
should come back faster because part of
the service they offer is a bid scoring

730
03:16:54,319 --> 03:16:58,319
system.
>> Okay.

731
03:16:55,439 --> 03:17:02,479
» And there's so we have if we have
multiple criteria

732
03:17:00,560 --> 03:17:06,000
uh it's scored against those multiple
criteria or generation should be either

733
03:17:04,800 --> 03:17:10,239
so it should come back.
>> We'd like to see fast. We don't it's not

734
03:17:08,560 --> 03:17:14,479
faster but at least we don't want to see
things delayed by two or three weeks

735
03:17:12,080 --> 03:17:18,080
just because you're using this process.
Yes.

736
03:17:16,000 --> 03:17:21,520
I just wanted to comment that um the
city of Thunder Bay is in this thing and

737
03:17:19,680 --> 03:17:26,479
Nebing's been in it and the treasurer of
Nebing, I was speaking with her. They've

738
03:17:23,359 --> 03:17:32,319
been in it before she was hired in 2019.
So, and she says it works well for their

739
03:17:30,000 --> 03:17:34,720
big jobs. They get more interest in them
and so forth, but they don't put the

740
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:38,479
little stuff on there. If we're going to
be painting a building for 20 grand, you

741
03:17:36,479 --> 03:17:42,239
don't go here. But if you're paving a
road or you're doing a bunch of

742
03:17:40,080 --> 03:17:48,920
construction in buildings that is, you
know, a couple hundred thousand dollars,

743
03:17:44,640 --> 03:17:48,920
this is where they would try.

744
03:17:49,520 --> 03:17:56,560
» And and the other thing too is it keeps
up to date uh on things like buy Ontario

745
03:17:54,560 --> 03:18:02,880
to make sure we're compliant with rules
like that. So So they keep so when the

746
03:18:00,560 --> 03:18:07,359
province changes something or introduces
something new, they're up to date on

747
03:18:04,720 --> 03:18:11,840
that. So if I don't know that we're
going to do this, but say we we have to

748
03:18:09,200 --> 03:18:16,560
buy a fleet of pickup trucks, right?
They will they will do the the buy

749
03:18:14,399 --> 03:18:20,000
Ontario scoring and all that kind of
stuff is already will be factored into

750
03:18:18,640 --> 03:18:25,359
it for us. So
>> right, that'll save us some time.

751
03:18:23,439 --> 03:18:28,399
So your thoughts again, we have a resol
or know this is a recommend no

752
03:18:26,800 --> 03:18:33,600
resolution.
We do have it. It was moved and

753
03:18:30,080 --> 03:18:38,960
seconded. Any further discussion? All in
favor? Opposed? Carried.

754
03:18:37,120 --> 03:18:41,920
The next item we have is transfer of
townline road allowance to the

755
03:18:40,399 --> 03:18:46,640
municipality. This is just a
housekeeping item. It happens once in a

756
03:18:43,920 --> 03:18:51,200
while. Uh we have a resolution that has
moved and seconded. Is there any

757
03:18:48,399 --> 03:18:54,200
questions on this piece of Townline
Road?

758
03:18:54,319 --> 03:19:02,960
All in favor? Opposed? Carried.
And to the next one, we have a

759
03:19:01,600 --> 03:19:07,920
resolution that's been moved and
seconded that we should develop a bylaw

760
03:19:06,319 --> 03:19:14,319
to authorize the use of alcohol in
public for consideration

761
03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:17,640
at um municipally designated outdoor
public events.

762
03:19:18,160 --> 03:19:24,880
My answer is no. Do you want to know
anything more than that?

763
03:19:22,399 --> 03:19:30,080
» I was going to say I'm completely in
favor of this or not. There's enough

764
03:19:26,560 --> 03:19:33,840
abuse in alcohol systems now and and to
encourage that would be against my

765
03:19:32,560 --> 03:19:37,760
better judgment.
>> Well, yes. If something happens and

766
03:19:36,160 --> 03:19:41,120
somebody's been drinking at a party
outside

767
03:19:39,359 --> 03:19:45,200
and we pass this bylaw, we are
responsible liable.

768
03:19:44,319 --> 03:19:50,880
» Yes.
>> Not only that, I think that the onus is

769
03:19:47,120 --> 03:19:55,359
then put on the bartender. So, if you
have a public event where they're

770
03:19:52,720 --> 03:19:59,920
selling liquor and then somebody brings
it in, how can you monitor

771
03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:02,960
who's
had too many?

772
03:20:02,399 --> 03:20:07,040
So,
>> so I guess our answer unless somebody

773
03:20:04,720 --> 03:20:11,840
wants to argue with me is I say no, I'm
sorry. If you want to override me, go

774
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:16,560
ahead. I think we should stay as far
away from this as possible.

775
03:20:14,479 --> 03:20:20,239
» They do it anyways. Okay. So, I don't
think we have to pass a thing to say

776
03:20:18,080 --> 03:20:22,800
that they can they do it as as it is.
No,

777
03:20:20,720 --> 03:20:26,640
» if you have it on a private person's
lawn or whatever, well, then they're

778
03:20:24,640 --> 03:20:28,880
responsible. That's we don't have to get
involved in that.

779
03:20:28,160 --> 03:20:33,760
» Yeah.
>> But to to encourage people to bring

780
03:20:31,359 --> 03:20:37,840
alcohol to a community event,
>> that's not something you

781
03:20:35,760 --> 03:20:42,960
» No.
>> Okay. The next one is Oh,

782
03:20:41,200 --> 03:20:48,863
» yeah. Council, if that's what they'd
like to do, defeat the resolution. Oh,

783
03:20:45,359 --> 03:20:50,883
okay. All in favor?
[laughter]

784
03:20:53,279 --> 03:20:59,520
» Oh, sorry.
Okay. And then the Oliver Papoon

785
03:20:56,960 --> 03:21:06,120
Heritage Park urgent roof repairs. It
was uh it was given to us separately.

786
03:21:18,560 --> 03:21:24,640
Which building is this on?
>> Oh,

787
03:21:22,560 --> 03:21:30,479
» no. One beside the general store, the
train station and the dentist office and

788
03:21:26,720 --> 03:21:36,640
the church proper
church. Two buildings.

789
03:21:33,439 --> 03:21:40,640
» Okay. Is this is this um I don't know
how to say this. Is this being done on

790
03:21:38,800 --> 03:21:45,359
something we don't feel will be staying
up? these this repair being done on

791
03:21:43,359 --> 03:21:47,680
things that in my opinion are staying
up.

792
03:21:45,760 --> 03:21:50,960
» Okay, then that's okay. Then I don't
have to see more than that. But you

793
03:21:49,600 --> 03:21:55,120
know, we don't want to spend money on
something that we're not sure is going

794
03:21:52,319 --> 03:21:59,359
to be there in a year or so.
Okay. So, we have a resolution that's

795
03:21:56,880 --> 03:22:04,800
been moved and seconded.
Any discussion or questions? It's coming

796
03:22:02,319 --> 03:22:09,439
from their reserve fund.
Okay.

797
03:22:06,640 --> 03:22:11,680
Righty. Yes. Council Peacock. Just
wondering is this a local company this?

798
03:22:11,279 --> 03:22:16,040
» Yes.
>> Milton. Okay. Thank you.

799
03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:25,040
» Okay. All in favor? Opposed? Carried.
Then we have reports of committees which

800
03:22:22,080 --> 03:22:29,920
is the D7.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Underneath there, I could

801
03:22:26,800 --> 03:22:36,640
hardly see that. You're right. There's u
they're displaying a car from the Russ

802
03:22:32,000 --> 03:22:41,600
Wanzik collection. And we did have this
request.

803
03:22:38,160 --> 03:22:46,720
got to be a couple years ago I believe
from the same organization.

804
03:22:44,479 --> 03:22:51,359
Um
there was a

805
03:22:49,040 --> 03:22:58,560
that time if I remember correctly there
was a uh

806
03:22:54,560 --> 03:23:02,960
concern with uh if if the vehicle would
be damaged in any way while it was

807
03:23:00,640 --> 03:23:09,680
there. uh the fact that it would be
removed from the main collection which

808
03:23:05,040 --> 03:23:14,399
is was asked for or Russa gave it gave
it to the municipality so it could be

809
03:23:11,600 --> 03:23:18,319
displayed in the municipality
um and the transporting it from one

810
03:23:16,640 --> 03:23:22,880
place to the acting are we are we
looking for an opportunity to have

811
03:23:19,600 --> 03:23:28,160
something damaged on it so councelor
>> miss

812
03:23:25,040 --> 03:23:32,960
» if you read the report the museum board
said they would not be supportive of

813
03:23:30,720 --> 03:23:37,680
yesterday would like to keep. So I I
would not the

814
03:23:34,479 --> 03:23:45,439
» leave it up and leave it where it is.
>> Okay. So we do have a resolution

815
03:23:42,319 --> 03:23:49,680
that's been moved and seconded.
>> May you read the resolution, please?

816
03:23:48,160 --> 03:23:54,800
» Deny it.
>> Deny it. It's in the report that with

817
03:23:52,239 --> 03:23:58,960
respect to report 2026.128 displaying
the car from the Russ Wanza collection

818
03:23:56,720 --> 03:24:01,760
at the Canadian lit exhibition provided
that the Canadian lake kit exhibition

819
03:24:00,560 --> 03:24:05,359
ensures the car and meets other
conditions put forward by administration

820
03:24:03,200 --> 03:24:12,279
be approved.
>> Moved and seconded to approve it. I will

821
03:24:07,920 --> 03:24:12,279
ask for a vote. All those in favor?

822
03:24:12,319 --> 03:24:19,120
Opposed.
Call a quiet moment there as we

823
03:24:16,800 --> 03:24:25,920
consider. And I believe there's another
one here too. Awarding the RFPQ

824
03:24:23,120 --> 03:24:30,640
cardic. That's all. That was it. Okay.
Because there's two numbers here. All

825
03:24:27,680 --> 03:24:34,399
righty. This board subcommittees for
DSAB board and the Thunder Bay Health

826
03:24:32,560 --> 03:24:40,560
Units
uh bylaw. The one uh been moved and

827
03:24:38,000 --> 03:24:44,880
seconded to acknowledge and the
acknowledgement and direction on

828
03:24:41,840 --> 03:24:52,080
Townline Road.
All in favor? Opposed? carried adopting

829
03:24:48,640 --> 03:24:55,120
the tax rate and set due dates.
I don't know if there's any any

830
03:24:53,439 --> 03:25:00,399
questions on that. It's been moved and
seconded.

831
03:24:57,040 --> 03:25:05,359
Any questions on that bylaw?
All in favor? Opposed? Carried. And

832
03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:10,319
again, the tax ratio and tax rate
reductions. It's been moved and seconded

833
03:25:07,680 --> 03:25:13,680
the bylaw. All in favor? Opposed?
Carried.

834
03:25:11,920 --> 03:25:18,680
Um
the schedule A was there something else?

835
03:25:20,160 --> 03:25:27,200
» Okay.
>> All righty. Um Titionson communications

836
03:25:25,040 --> 03:25:33,120
or action items is a plans to combat the
tick born diseases is one. The other one

837
03:25:30,080 --> 03:25:38,720
is the himer's agricultural society. I
did ask the clerk if she would please

838
03:25:35,200 --> 03:25:43,120
put a resolution in at uh as we got this
action item because I know every year we

839
03:25:40,960 --> 03:25:47,600
do put some advertisement or
advertisement in their pamphlet.

840
03:25:45,920 --> 03:25:53,040
So the resolution's been moved and
second. Uh is there any discussion on

841
03:25:50,640 --> 03:25:57,040
this matter? Yes, councelor Campov.
>> Uh just cur so is this a I see it's a

842
03:25:56,080 --> 03:26:01,680
» sorry
>> it's a it's a provincial form that's

843
03:25:58,800 --> 03:26:05,760
filled out by Gillies Township. It's the
selling of their tickets.

844
03:26:02,800 --> 03:26:10,080
» Do they set the fee or does the province
set the fee? The $3 license fee.

845
03:26:08,960 --> 03:26:14,319
» Province has the fee.
>> Wow. Okay. Just curious.

846
03:26:13,680 --> 03:26:19,359
» $3.
>> $3.

847
03:26:17,200 --> 03:26:24,319
» Stamped for that.
>> Okay. I apologize. This was not this was

848
03:26:22,560 --> 03:26:28,960
not advertising in the Himer's fair. It
was the 50/50 tickets if they could sell

849
03:26:26,720 --> 03:26:34,399
them. And again, we've allowed that
before, too. So uh all in favor opposed

850
03:26:32,800 --> 03:26:40,319
carried.
Again the rail safety week September 21

851
03:26:36,880 --> 03:26:46,080
to 27th. We do it every year and so I
ask the clerk to please just bring us f

852
03:26:42,960 --> 03:26:51,040
the bring us the resolution. It's been
moved and seconded. Is there any

853
03:26:47,600 --> 03:26:56,560
discussion on this one? All in favor?
Opposed? Carried. And then we have a

854
03:26:54,399 --> 03:27:01,359
resolution that's been moved and
seconded in regards to Rural Heritage

855
03:26:58,640 --> 03:27:06,880
Agricultural Society requesting
placement of advertise advertisement in

856
03:27:03,520 --> 03:27:09,760
their program book for the fair
2026 fair.

857
03:27:08,960 --> 03:27:15,200
» Last year
>> $180 same as last year. Yes. So it's

858
03:27:13,439 --> 03:27:21,359
been moved and seconded. Any further
discussion? All in favor? Opposed?

859
03:27:18,800 --> 03:27:26,399
Carried. Then we have a resolution of
support of the NOHSC's tile drainage

860
03:27:23,760 --> 03:27:32,560
funding. It has been moved and seconded.
It is open for discussion.

861
03:27:29,600 --> 03:27:39,000
» I think we I would like to support that.
>> Okay.

862
03:27:35,359 --> 03:27:39,000
Any further discussion?

863
03:27:42,560 --> 03:27:49,439
» No, I don't believe you should. on this
side for this. So currently, uh,

864
03:27:47,760 --> 03:27:54,640
Northern Ontario Farm Innovation
Alliance, although they're based in

865
03:27:51,520 --> 03:27:59,840
Smith, they are the organization that's
coordinating local tile drainage

866
03:27:56,560 --> 03:28:05,600
projects that are going to the NHF.
Um, yeah, I it's I always will speak in

867
03:28:02,880 --> 03:28:11,200
favor of uh
drainage because it's a good thing for

868
03:28:07,120 --> 03:28:15,359
both agriculture and rural economy
down,

869
03:28:12,399 --> 03:28:18,800
» right? It makes what was unusable land
usable. So there can't be anything

870
03:28:17,520 --> 03:28:24,640
better for
>> any further discussion. All in favor?

871
03:28:21,520 --> 03:28:28,960
Opposed? Carried. Then we have a a
request for provincial action on the

872
03:28:26,399 --> 03:28:34,479
accuracy of municipal voters lists. We
did not put a resolution in here, but

873
03:28:31,680 --> 03:28:40,239
they're u encouraging prioritization of
the review of data in regards to

874
03:28:37,600 --> 03:28:44,479
property owners etc.
And then we have the Penock Village

875
03:28:42,239 --> 03:28:52,239
resident landfill punch card request.
And that was a letter that was received.

876
03:28:46,319 --> 03:28:56,160
It's on page 120. And I will pass it to
Wayne.

877
03:28:54,800 --> 03:29:01,760
» Don't fall asleep. You got to answer
this one.

878
03:28:58,640 --> 03:29:07,520
question about what
>> for the punch card

879
03:29:04,319 --> 03:29:11,359
» request of the people at Penark Village
who would like to have a punch card.

880
03:29:10,479 --> 03:29:17,520
» Mayor Lucy.
>> Yes, I I think I left the message on the

881
03:29:14,880 --> 03:29:21,600
co's phone line. I said I don't think
you need to even bother spending that to

882
03:29:19,439 --> 03:29:26,000
uh to council waste her time. But
anyway, here it is. And the reason why I

883
03:29:24,080 --> 03:29:31,760
made that call, I went to that open
house and uh I asked them I hear a lot

884
03:29:29,520 --> 03:29:36,560
of stories how it works and this went
right from their horse's mouth. They

885
03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:40,319
purchased the unit,
excuse me, between $600 and $700,000.

886
03:29:39,840 --> 03:29:46,000
» Mhm.
>> Then they pay $650 a month maintenance

887
03:29:43,040 --> 03:29:52,800
fee. Then they pay between three and
$4,000 in taxes. And then they still pay

888
03:29:49,600 --> 03:29:59,120
hydro and heat. So if they why don't
they get a a card for the landfill site?

889
03:29:56,239 --> 03:30:05,520
Now I could see I what I didn't
understand does that house not go into

890
03:30:02,880 --> 03:30:10,239
my name if I buy it that remains in
James Kohley. Well then if we know

891
03:30:07,600 --> 03:30:15,279
that's the system anytime James Kohley
comes in for a I'll give you part of it.

892
03:30:13,200 --> 03:30:22,319
You said here here's your landside
tickets and give it to them.

893
03:30:18,880 --> 03:30:22,319
That's for their house.

894
03:30:23,520 --> 03:30:30,000
Miss Campov,
>> we discussed this at length when we

895
03:30:28,239 --> 03:30:34,399
first instituted this. This is very
similar to Happy Land Trailer Park, is

896
03:30:32,000 --> 03:30:39,120
it not? Really, it's the responsibility
like councelor Vist just said, it's the

897
03:30:36,800 --> 03:30:46,239
responsibility of whoever's name is on
the deed to disseminate the carts.

898
03:30:43,359 --> 03:30:51,359
» Yeah. But what I find so
so difficult, if I to pay $600,000, I

899
03:30:49,840 --> 03:30:54,960
think I'd like to have my name on that
property. It's mine. 600,000.

900
03:30:53,840 --> 03:30:58,075
» It's up to them.
>> It's up to them. Yeah. [laughter]

901
03:30:58,479 --> 03:31:07,600
» Yes.
>> We had this um matter last year and we

902
03:31:04,080 --> 03:31:13,279
ended up uh making changes to the bylaw
and what we decided again this is Panok

903
03:31:11,120 --> 03:31:18,319
Village. Uh we can talk about late that
later. Uh well shortly. But uh with

904
03:31:16,080 --> 03:31:23,760
regard to multi-residential properties,
apartment blocks, the Happy Land uh

905
03:31:20,319 --> 03:31:30,239
trailer park, uh what the plan was is
that for every four tenants that you

906
03:31:26,880 --> 03:31:36,000
have, you get a commercial card, right?
So Happy Land had 37 tenants. He can get

907
03:31:33,600 --> 03:31:40,880
nine commercial cards. And then there
was a provision put in there that the

908
03:31:38,239 --> 03:31:46,239
owner could convert his commercial cards
to to residential cards so that the

909
03:31:43,760 --> 03:31:50,720
tenants could go on their own. So that's
what we did for the Happy Land uh place

910
03:31:48,880 --> 03:31:55,200
and that's what's going on with the the
other trailer park and and apartment

911
03:31:52,880 --> 03:32:02,080
block uh things like that that we have
right now. So now the Peno village uh

912
03:31:58,479 --> 03:32:10,640
there's similarities in in in that that
the commercial cards go to the the owner

913
03:32:06,479 --> 03:32:15,840
the the Pano village place and they will
they would get four

914
03:32:13,760 --> 03:32:22,880
uh four one commercial car for every
four tenants and then they would could

915
03:32:18,479 --> 03:32:27,200
convert them to to use for the tenants.
like that's something that could happen

916
03:32:24,960 --> 03:32:32,720
there.
Now it is a little different because

917
03:32:29,279 --> 03:32:39,200
they've bought this building but I are
they property owners in the sense of

918
03:32:34,640 --> 03:32:41,520
impact and I don't think so. So that
it's it's different

919
03:32:40,000 --> 03:32:44,720
» with happy land. The people that live
there bought that home.

920
03:32:43,200 --> 03:32:48,319
» Yeah.
>> So it's on someone else's property but

921
03:32:46,640 --> 03:32:53,200
it bought their home.
>> That's stressful.

922
03:32:50,000 --> 03:32:57,359
» So this is an issue. So, have we has has
the actual whoever the land owner is,

923
03:32:55,279 --> 03:33:00,800
whether it's the developer or the
business that the the legal entity that

924
03:32:59,439 --> 03:33:05,680
owns the property, have they been issued
the cards now?

925
03:33:03,120 --> 03:33:09,200
» Through the chair, uh it's not the legal
owner. It's not the owner of Penock

926
03:33:07,680 --> 03:33:11,840
Village that's coming in. It's as they
get occupancy per unit, they're coming

927
03:33:11,120 --> 03:33:14,560
in. Yes.
>> And we've been directing them back to

928
03:33:14,080 --> 03:33:17,920
Good
>> to deal with that.

929
03:33:16,080 --> 03:33:22,080
» So, that's that's an internal problem
that this is shouldn't be our problem.

930
03:33:19,680 --> 03:33:26,960
» Correct. So the owner should have of
that whole unit thing should be here

931
03:33:24,399 --> 03:33:32,560
already having gotten at least one card.
>> Correct. So the the property is

932
03:33:30,239 --> 03:33:35,600
commercial or whatever it is. He the
owner is entitled to one commercial

933
03:33:34,880 --> 03:33:38,640
card.
>> This is very similar to

934
03:33:37,439 --> 03:33:44,239
» for every four units
>> for every four units. This is the third

935
03:33:42,239 --> 03:33:47,600
person that's moved in. Yeah.
>> Right. So there is an opportunity. I

936
03:33:46,239 --> 03:33:52,800
don't even know if Mr. call. He's got
the cards for the original batch that

937
03:33:49,359 --> 03:33:56,399
he's due. Again, this is a issue and
it's complicated to the very extent that

938
03:33:54,720 --> 03:33:59,520
Wayne just talked about. The property is
not owned by the people that are writing

939
03:33:57,920 --> 03:34:05,359
the letters.
>> Uh by $600,000.

940
03:34:02,399 --> 03:34:11,200
» Well, that's the way the system works.
>> That's a that's a that's a Yeah, that's

941
03:34:08,239 --> 03:34:14,080
the type of system that is there. That's
what it's called. Subdivision of

942
03:34:13,120 --> 03:34:17,600
condominium.
>> This doesn't seem that complicated. Oh,

943
03:34:16,640 --> 03:34:23,680
chair. It's not.
>> No. So, I mean, so I I hope Mr.

944
03:34:20,160 --> 03:34:25,840
Guttenborg was directed to go back to
>> correct

945
03:34:24,319 --> 03:34:27,040
» because it looks like they came in two
times.

946
03:34:26,640 --> 03:34:30,080
» Correct.
>> Given a different story, different time.

947
03:34:28,640 --> 03:34:34,880
» I don't know. I wasn't here.
>> Mr. Okay.

948
03:34:32,080 --> 03:34:38,560
» Or if office calls you, call Mr. Cole
say, "Mr. Cole, would you come on here

949
03:34:36,479 --> 03:34:43,040
straighten out? These people are need
this. Get that straightened out through

950
03:34:40,960 --> 03:34:47,200
the chair." We we it's the same issue in
regards to uh fire numbers in there.

951
03:34:46,399 --> 03:34:50,080
» Building numbers.
>> Yeah. How do you

952
03:34:48,239 --> 03:34:53,279
» Because it's it's on the developer to
come up with the building number. We

953
03:34:51,600 --> 03:34:56,960
don't know which one's selling first. So
when it comes down to municipal address,

954
03:34:55,120 --> 03:34:58,319
it's Penock Village Way or whatever the
road is.

955
03:34:57,600 --> 03:35:03,000
» Yeah.
>> The unit numbers are decided by the

956
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:03,000
owner.

957
03:35:03,520 --> 03:35:09,040
» I mean, it's up to the owner, too. They
could go into a system where he has a

958
03:35:07,680 --> 03:35:11,439
corner somewhere where he has the
garbage bins

959
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:14,399
» through the chair. throw your garbage in
the bin and he will ensure that it gets

960
03:35:13,120 --> 03:35:18,160
picked up.
>> The owner has that opportunity and I

961
03:35:16,479 --> 03:35:21,760
think that's how it was portrayed in the
original advertising of the place that

962
03:35:20,000 --> 03:35:24,720
you wouldn't have to worry about
anything.

963
03:35:22,399 --> 03:35:27,840
» Well, I thought that's what the $650 a
month is.

964
03:35:26,160 --> 03:35:31,279
» Yeah. Well, that's why I say you
wouldn't want it to be in the middle of

965
03:35:29,200 --> 03:35:34,880
the, you know, you don't want a messy
place like that. But if you have it in a

966
03:35:32,880 --> 03:35:39,760
corner somewhere and you have the bins,
they hire a company to come once every

967
03:35:36,880 --> 03:35:42,399
two weeks or something to empty them,
then you don't have to go to landfill

968
03:35:41,040 --> 03:35:46,080
site at all.
>> So this is the I think this is the third

969
03:35:44,239 --> 03:35:49,439
one that's got occupancy. And I know
that the first two I did know and I

970
03:35:47,840 --> 03:35:53,439
turned them the other way.
>> Mhm.

971
03:35:51,359 --> 03:35:58,319
So they are all informed now that they
need to go to Mr. Kohley. And

972
03:35:55,680 --> 03:36:00,479
» this letter came whatever day it was. I
haven't responded to this letter as yet.

973
03:35:59,760 --> 03:36:05,359
Nope.
>> Okay. Well, we will though and just tell

974
03:36:02,399 --> 03:36:09,040
them you have to go to Mr. Kohley and he
gives you the cards and that's how it

975
03:36:07,120 --> 03:36:11,520
works. Okay. Because they're entitled to
it. I mean the residents and they're

976
03:36:10,560 --> 03:36:14,880
paying.
>> Yes.

977
03:36:12,399 --> 03:36:18,800
» This individual did come in and ask
about it and he was advised you need to

978
03:36:17,520 --> 03:36:22,080
go to the landlord because that's what
it says in the bylaw.

979
03:36:20,160 --> 03:36:25,200
» Okay. So he was told
>> Yeah.

980
03:36:22,640 --> 03:36:29,439
» Okay.
>> Okay.

981
03:36:26,880 --> 03:36:34,720
All righty. Um
then we have uh for information only the

982
03:36:31,760 --> 03:36:41,600
firefighter certification update,
the DSAB board minutes, the health unit

983
03:36:38,560 --> 03:36:44,600
conservation authority, Superior North
EMS,

984
03:36:44,880 --> 03:36:51,120
uh rural Ontario Municipal Association,
they had the highlights board meeting

985
03:36:49,439 --> 03:36:57,359
highlights, the community benefits
charge and parkland Miller prec 50ear

986
03:36:54,640 --> 03:37:02,800
celebration. I will be going there
tomorrow.

987
03:36:59,120 --> 03:37:06,080
Uh just nobody I'm not not representing
but I will go. I would like to represent

988
03:37:04,720 --> 03:37:09,920
them just to
>> bring something

989
03:37:07,920 --> 03:37:11,760
» beef cakes.
>> I I don't think so.

990
03:37:10,960 --> 03:37:16,960
» Beef cakes.
>> I'll go my I'll go go and get some

991
03:37:13,760 --> 03:37:21,439
flowers ever. But anyway,
maybe we could even have a certificate.

992
03:37:20,000 --> 03:37:24,800
» Would you something? I could pick
something up.

993
03:37:22,560 --> 03:37:29,840
» Okay. Yeah. 50 years of service to the
community deserve some uh kind of

994
03:37:27,840 --> 03:37:34,880
notification and I will go tomorrow.
I'll come here first.

995
03:37:32,239 --> 03:37:40,160
And then correspondence received from uh
Chief Darson Furry from the Thunder Bay

996
03:37:37,279 --> 03:37:44,800
Police Department. Some potential
national interest projects in the North

997
03:37:42,560 --> 03:37:52,479
Shield Energy Corridor announcement.
Military service recognition book.

998
03:37:49,120 --> 03:37:56,479
New business. Councelor Calbertt. Uh,
no, just like I said, I went to the

999
03:37:53,920 --> 03:38:01,279
municipal league meeting in Scriber on
the weekend and

1000
03:37:58,640 --> 03:38:05,600
it's interesting and like I say, I tried
to present our case which they didn't

1001
03:38:02,960 --> 03:38:08,560
seem to bite too much on. Other than
that, it was a good meeting.

1002
03:38:07,120 --> 03:38:13,920
» Good. Cancel this.
>> Yes. You heard the thumbs up, thumbs

1003
03:38:11,200 --> 03:38:17,439
down. Well, I have a thumbs up and a
thumbs down on

1004
03:38:14,720 --> 03:38:21,760
» Okay, thumbs up. The good news first.
Compliments to the road crew for doing

1005
03:38:19,439 --> 03:38:26,319
an excellent job on both the road. The
road was so rough that in the tractor

1006
03:38:24,000 --> 03:38:31,680
you would bounce out of the tractor seat
if you did not slow down or to a turtle

1007
03:38:29,359 --> 03:38:36,479
crawl. Now it's like a highway and we
can go speeding along. also want you to

1008
03:38:34,319 --> 03:38:43,279
recognize our director of operation
commitment to his job on Canada day. I

1009
03:38:40,319 --> 03:38:48,880
went to the farm early in the morning
and who do I read in the director of

1010
03:38:46,000 --> 03:38:52,399
operation. He takes the job serious. He
made sure that the people that do the

1011
03:38:50,640 --> 03:38:58,880
chip sealing, he was there to make sure
it was all done. Thank you very much,

1012
03:38:54,960 --> 03:39:03,436
Chris. On the downside, why why wasn't
all Bone?

1013
03:39:01,416 --> 03:39:03,436
[laughter]

1014
03:39:03,680 --> 03:39:09,200
through the chair as per ask management
plan. It's not due to be redone again.

1015
03:39:07,840 --> 03:39:13,840
» Okay. [laughter]
It didn't even get lines.

1016
03:39:12,000 --> 03:39:18,640
Well, anyway, thank you. You guys did a
wonderful job and I I I couldn't believe

1017
03:39:16,479 --> 03:39:25,200
that on day when everybody's off, you
are at work. Wonderful to see that. So,

1018
03:39:21,600 --> 03:39:30,800
» councelor Peacock, anything?
>> Yes, please. Um, looking for some

1019
03:39:27,920 --> 03:39:35,760
clarification. Two meetings ago, we had
the uh group here with regard or the

1020
03:39:33,520 --> 03:39:42,479
gentleman here with regard to hosting
Ribfest at the uh racetrack.

1021
03:39:39,359 --> 03:39:49,359
» Um do we perhaps need further
clarification? Are they going to be

1022
03:39:44,399 --> 03:39:53,439
allowed to camp there? Are the the um
trailers going to be set up in the from

1023
03:39:52,080 --> 03:39:58,720
what I understand the trailers are going
to be set up in the uh for the the

1024
03:39:56,640 --> 03:40:04,319
trailers that issued the food are going
to be set up I think on the land that we

1025
03:40:01,359 --> 03:40:09,279
lease to them. So,
I'm just wondering if we could get some

1026
03:40:06,880 --> 03:40:14,800
further if they know for sure that it's
happening and and what their plan of

1027
03:40:11,680 --> 03:40:18,160
attack is for I mean, are they asking
for

1028
03:40:16,479 --> 03:40:23,760
» Well, I I thought that we agreed that
that was all right for them to have the

1029
03:40:21,200 --> 03:40:26,319
red fest. Yeah, but just just looking
for

1030
03:40:24,560 --> 03:40:29,680
» are we going to allow they didn't say
anything about camping and so I just

1031
03:40:28,239 --> 03:40:34,319
didn't know if that was something that
they wanted to do or

1032
03:40:32,640 --> 03:40:37,680
» if they provide us with further details
of their

1033
03:40:34,960 --> 03:40:42,720
» the racers all camp there I believe
>> and the fire chief will uh take keeps

1034
03:40:41,120 --> 03:40:48,800
checking on them to make sure all is
done correctly. So, okay.

1035
03:40:46,160 --> 03:40:54,399
» Well, I would say Donna, I mean, if we
allow for the SA races, why wouldn't you

1036
03:40:51,279 --> 03:40:57,840
not allow I think just a standard thing,
whatever function they put on, we should

1037
03:40:56,239 --> 03:41:00,080
allow them to continue to do the same
thing, wouldn't you?

1038
03:40:59,359 --> 03:41:06,160
» Yeah.
>> The the camping is just um if it's if

1039
03:41:03,200 --> 03:41:10,319
there's a race event and perhaps just
the little cars isn't exactly a race

1040
03:41:07,680 --> 03:41:17,040
event, but anyways, just thinking that
we need to have further clarification.

1041
03:41:12,800 --> 03:41:23,520
Um, I've had a a request from a
resident. Um,

1042
03:41:20,000 --> 03:41:28,479
he operates a mobility scooter in the
village of Kekabeka and he asked last

1043
03:41:25,920 --> 03:41:33,200
year and he's asking again this year if
we could please do some maintenance on

1044
03:41:30,399 --> 03:41:39,600
the sidewalks in Kebeca. He's had four
flat tires in the last month and um he's

1045
03:41:38,000 --> 03:41:43,520
hoping that something could be done to
fill in and do some maintenance on the

1046
03:41:42,399 --> 03:41:46,560
sidewalks.
>> Short answer, according to the

1047
03:41:45,279 --> 03:41:49,760
maintenance standards, those sidewalks
meet the spec.

1048
03:41:49,040 --> 03:41:54,080
» Yeah.
>> And there is rumors that they'll be

1049
03:41:52,080 --> 03:41:57,520
replaced at one point in time in the
next couple years. That job is on the

1050
03:41:56,239 --> 03:41:59,760
books for the MTO.
>> Oh, it's MTO.

1051
03:41:58,399 --> 03:42:05,200
» The Ministry of Transportation
sidewalks. The sidewalks are on uh

1052
03:42:02,880 --> 03:42:09,200
they're our responsibility to maintain.
Obviously, the street lights are ours,

1053
03:42:07,359 --> 03:42:11,760
but from the front of the sidewalk to
the curb is MTO.

1054
03:42:11,520 --> 03:42:16,000
» Okay.
>> Curbs are MTO. Uh I went and looked at

1055
03:42:14,399 --> 03:42:20,239
it last year. I haven't looked at it
this year, but the standard has been met

1056
03:42:18,319 --> 03:42:24,640
as far as the deviations in so many
panels, it meets the spec.

1057
03:42:23,359 --> 03:42:28,479
» Okay.
Um

1058
03:42:26,319 --> 03:42:37,760
further to that, did you get a message
with regard to the um corner of Jelly

1059
03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:44,239
and Blind Line? Um gentleman had concern
that the trees need to be trimmed there.

1060
03:42:40,479 --> 03:42:48,399
It's um there's a lot of heavy traffic
through there and uh he's concerned that

1061
03:42:46,960 --> 03:42:53,279
there's going to be an incident there.
>> The chair came through as the corn was

1062
03:42:50,560 --> 03:42:59,160
too tall and blocking his view. I did
not receive it as far as trees being in

1063
03:42:56,000 --> 03:42:59,160
the way.

1064
03:42:59,200 --> 03:43:06,399
» If you could have a look
>> service that I saw.

1065
03:43:02,160 --> 03:43:09,439
» Okay. Perhaps it was from someone else.
>> Um,

1066
03:43:07,920 --> 03:43:13,760
between the road crew and the and the
fire department, do we do either one of

1067
03:43:11,920 --> 03:43:19,439
them have a concern with regard to the
number of dead trees and spruce budworm

1068
03:43:15,840 --> 03:43:24,319
and and fire safety smart plan? Is it
what that's called? when you want to

1069
03:43:21,040 --> 03:43:29,199
make sure you've got your area, your
properties uh

1070
03:43:26,560 --> 03:43:31,840
clear of dead trees.
Just a thought.

1071
03:43:30,000 --> 03:43:35,920
» If it's private problem, then it's a
private problem.

1072
03:43:34,080 --> 03:43:41,120
» Um
the spruce budworm and the conifers that

1073
03:43:38,560 --> 03:43:46,080
are are dying back is going to be a
concern. Um,

1074
03:43:44,399 --> 03:43:52,800
I mean, we're working on a fires smart
plan and public education, but this is

1075
03:43:49,040 --> 03:43:59,600
going to be a widespread problem. So,
>> for sure.

1076
03:43:55,199 --> 03:44:08,160
Um, okay. What else could I have with
regard to the fire department stuff?

1077
03:44:02,720 --> 03:44:14,800
Um, in the past, like since 2024,
we've spent over 12 to $15,000

1078
03:44:12,560 --> 03:44:20,239
on the Voyant alert program and yet
we've never

1079
03:44:17,120 --> 03:44:23,920
put out an alert. Is there a reason that
maybe one shouldn't have gone out with

1080
03:44:22,160 --> 03:44:29,520
regard to the cancellation of fire
permits or something like that?

1081
03:44:26,720 --> 03:44:33,359
The purpose of violent alert is a mass
notification

1082
03:44:31,120 --> 03:44:36,960
in emergency situations. The
cancellation [clears throat] of burning

1083
03:44:34,399 --> 03:44:43,600
permits is not an emergency
notification. The intent of that is that

1084
03:44:40,160 --> 03:44:48,800
if if there's a fire that's burning down
uh the neighborhood that I can quickly

1085
03:44:45,439 --> 03:44:53,840
tell everybody to get out. The um I
think it's a positive thing that we've

1086
03:44:50,560 --> 03:44:58,560
never had to use it. That's right. Um uh
the other the other thing that we have

1087
03:44:55,760 --> 03:45:03,600
to be mindful with alert systems is is
um is people become condition to them

1088
03:45:01,680 --> 03:45:06,160
and it's like crying wolf if they go out
for every little thing people don't

1089
03:45:04,960 --> 03:45:10,720
listen to them. So
>> okay

1090
03:45:06,880 --> 03:45:16,720
» um it is money that that has to be spent
and um I've been in the business of fire

1091
03:45:14,319 --> 03:45:21,760
prevention for 35 years and I always say
I I try to sell you stuff that I hope

1092
03:45:19,120 --> 03:45:26,080
you never have to use. Voyant alert
falls into that class. It's one of those

1093
03:45:23,680 --> 03:45:30,399
things we need insurance
um that we hope we never have to use,

1094
03:45:27,840 --> 03:45:33,840
but if we need it, it's there to uh
>> Yes.

1095
03:45:31,680 --> 03:45:37,199
» It was my Sorry. It was my understanding
that if there was a road that was going

1096
03:45:35,760 --> 03:45:44,399
to be closed or something like that that
we could kind of section off the the um

1097
03:45:41,680 --> 03:45:47,760
the plan to say, okay, anyone who called
from say Mackie Road that the road's

1098
03:45:46,080 --> 03:45:50,479
going to be closed that they were going
to be notified, had they signed up for

1099
03:45:49,199 --> 03:45:55,600
it? Am I wrong in that?
>> No, the notification was for emergency

1100
03:45:52,960 --> 03:46:01,439
notification. The system does have the
capacity to do dump uh days, water, like

1101
03:45:59,760 --> 03:46:07,359
all kinds of stuff, but they cautioned
us when we did the first uh session of

1102
03:46:04,399 --> 03:46:09,680
the uh the the risk of making it an
everyday event and people don't listen

1103
03:46:08,880 --> 03:46:13,439
to it.
>> Okay.

1104
03:46:11,520 --> 03:46:18,479
» Do we have an update on the fire trucks
that are around the corner? We're

1105
03:46:16,399 --> 03:46:23,040
expecting one delivery at the end of the
month and the second one we're expecting

1106
03:46:20,479 --> 03:46:26,720
by the end of the year.
>> And on a positive note, I'd like to

1107
03:46:24,560 --> 03:46:31,760
acknowledge the
uh members of the department who

1108
03:46:29,760 --> 03:46:35,680
have completed all their certification
and uh

1109
03:46:33,920 --> 03:46:41,520
and I know it's been a long work in
progress and

1110
03:46:38,479 --> 03:46:46,640
we need it to be compliant. So, I
appreciate that very much. Thank you.

1111
03:46:44,560 --> 03:46:53,199
» Thank you. And I'll I'll just comment to
that that um there was a town hall and

1112
03:46:50,000 --> 03:46:58,319
um the just last Thursday and the fire
marshall spoke directly to certification

1113
03:46:56,399 --> 03:47:03,040
and I will say I'm very proud of our
members for the effort that they put in.

1114
03:47:00,479 --> 03:47:06,640
I think that we are
I don't want to say one of the few but

1115
03:47:04,560 --> 03:47:11,439
we're certainly one of the leaders in
being in compliance with certification

1116
03:47:08,800 --> 03:47:14,479
which is no minor feat and it is a
testament to the effort that our people

1117
03:47:13,120 --> 03:47:20,600
put in.
Yes, most certainly. Councelor

1118
03:47:17,600 --> 03:47:20,600
» Campov

1119
03:47:21,187 --> 03:47:29,120
[laughter] or bad not a thumbs up.
>> Yes.

1120
03:47:27,279 --> 03:47:33,920
» Just have one more to to add. Part of
that town hall was also the announcement

1121
03:47:31,040 --> 03:47:38,960
of the year three of the fire grant. So,
the applications open, I think, on

1122
03:47:35,920 --> 03:47:42,640
Thursday the 16th and they close uh
Septemberish.

1123
03:47:40,560 --> 03:47:47,760
It is essentially the same grant as last
year. $20 million available. Um each

1124
03:47:46,160 --> 03:47:51,439
it's based on the number of active
stations

1125
03:47:49,279 --> 03:47:58,000
» and they expect
>> yeah they expect 16,500 per station

1126
03:47:55,439 --> 03:48:05,000
» which means that we are eligible for
just shy of $100,000 again. Last year we

1127
03:48:00,880 --> 03:48:05,000
gotund just over 102,000.

1128
03:48:05,040 --> 03:48:12,160
» It is short of 20 million but there's a
there's a lot of stations out there. So

1129
03:48:09,760 --> 03:48:17,279
um the the bucket lists are the exact
same as last year. So there's there's

1130
03:48:14,080 --> 03:48:23,120
five five buckets. Four of them are
cancer prevention and one is lithium ion

1131
03:48:20,479 --> 03:48:28,640
batteries again. So we are working to to
put in the the application and I will

1132
03:48:26,160 --> 03:48:33,680
put in for way more than what we can
get. But

1133
03:48:29,760 --> 03:48:39,680
» that's the way to do it. Thank you.
Okay. Anything else? Anything else from

1134
03:48:36,640 --> 03:48:43,040
anyone else? Nope. We have a resolution
confirming the meeting we've held this

1135
03:48:41,359 --> 03:48:49,600
evening. It's been moved and seconded.
All in favor? Opposed?

1136
03:48:46,720 --> 03:48:56,319
We also have a resolution to adjourn the
meeting. The time being Oh, I can't see.

1137
03:48:52,319 --> 03:49:00,160
8:34 p.m.
It's been moved and seconded. All in

1138
03:48:58,000 --> 03:49:06,279
favor? Oh, I thought maybe somebody say
no, I'm not.

1139
03:49:02,640 --> 03:49:06,279
» Thank you very much.