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All right. Good evening everyone. We'll

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call the Ovette City Council meeting on

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August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can

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we please have roll call?

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>> Mayor Lewis

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>> here.

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>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman

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>> here.

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>> Council member Clark

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>> here.

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>> Council member Solomonov

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>> here.

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>> Council member Durgel

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>> here.

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>> All righty. Uh, are there any

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communications to share at this time?

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>> I have no written communications. All

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right, we'll move on to item number

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three, city manager report, please.

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>> Good evening.

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Let me

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share my screen.

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» We were late, so sorry.

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>> All right. Um, good evening everyone.

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Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming

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events. We are winding up summer and,

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uh, fall is always super busy for us.

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So, we encourage everybody to come out

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to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st,

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which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00

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a.m. in the morning to meet with one of

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our, uh, police officers. So, coffee

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with a cop uh, will be during that time.

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There will be coffee and some limited

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free pastries. So, if you have not had a

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chance to uh try a pastry at Paris

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Baguette, this would be a great

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opportunity to do that, as well as uh

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come talk to one of Olivet's finests.

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Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So,

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this is an opportunity for you and your

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neighbors to gather to have a block

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party and then if you sign up uh some

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oliveette city officials, including the

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uh police officers, the fire department,

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you might get the fire truck or the

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ambulance uh to come and to stop by and

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to say hello um meet and greet with uh

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our oliveette community. So, um we would

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encourage all of the neighbors to go

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ahead and sign up. If you have

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questions, uh, please reach out to

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Lieutenant Selzer in the police

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department.

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And every year we do the Battle of the

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Badges, which is a competition between

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the fire department and the police

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department. Uh, it is essentially a

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blood drive for the American Red Cross.

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And both our fire department and our

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police department have compelling

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stories, personal stories about

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grandchildren uh and their need for

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blood, hence the blood drive. And so

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individuals who come and donate blood

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are given an opportunity to cast a vote

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for either the police department or the

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fire department. Um and at the you know

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at the end of the drive the winning

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department receives some gift from the

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losing department. Um the fire

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department has more years that they have

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won uh than the police department. So

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come out donate for a good cause to the

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American cross and then choose which

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public safety group is your favorite.

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Trivia night is being hosted at Five

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Oaks on September 18th. There are nine

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tables left, so bring your friends uh

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for a table of eight. The theme this

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year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there

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should be something for everyone. Um

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register for your table and we hope to

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see you there. I think there's at least

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one staff table. Um and I think a couple

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other folks have gotten um tables for

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the trivia night.

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The great Olivet cleanout is happening

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again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.

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This is a change from um Stacy Park. So

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in years past it's been at Stacy Park.

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This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson.

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It's on the lower parking lot. So this

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is an opportunity for residents to

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either have documents shredded if you

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have some of those in your office or

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your home office. This is not for um a

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business cleanout, but if you do have a

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home office and you have documents that

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you would like shredded or if you have

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any um e-waste, so almost anything with

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a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle

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those for you.

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>> Do you know if it's still a drive-thru?

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>> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a

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drive-thru. And so there is a very

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specific route for you to uh to come

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through. They will take the items um out

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of your vehicle. It's very easy. you

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should be um in and out in not much time

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at all. So, and we did receive the

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grant. So, we've signed off on that and

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we did receive the grant for this.

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» The fall and winter activity guide is

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out. These are all of the recreational

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programs that the city is offering

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through the fall and the winter. We have

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some hard copies out in the lobby if you

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would like. Uh it's also on the city's

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website and should be hitting should

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actually be in homes already. So, we

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would encourage you to check those out.

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We have activities for all ages.

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And then I just always encourage

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everyone to sign up for weekly, which is

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our weekly e newswsletter.

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And then just some general city updates.

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Um, our new finance director, Julia

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Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably

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uh in September, we will bringing be

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bringing her to council to to introduce

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her. Uh we are recruiting for another

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police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told

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you that we had made conditional officer

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offers to two individuals. Uh one of

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them accepted. They are in the

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pre-employment screening phase. Um the

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other candidate decided that uh he was

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going to remain at his uh his place of

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employment. Um and then the follow-up

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from the Hicks Carter Hicks the

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employment engagement committee is

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meeting this week. They're going to

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start working on um employee recognition

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and then um I have asked Hicks Carter

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Hicks to craft a proposal to help the

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city with an internal communications

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plan. uh one of the uh comments and

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areas of deficiency on the survey was

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communication and that's a pretty broad

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um topic and so I do think working with

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them to create and improve some of our

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internal communications is a good start

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to making headway on that uh survey

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result. Are they going to talk to

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employees to understand kind of like

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what I I know they have the survey

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results, but to understand like where

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they saw gaps in communication. Will

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they have those conversations before

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they craft?

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>> They're going to craft me a proposal to

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do it. So like we'll get a scope of

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work.

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>> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk

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to people. Gotcha.

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>> Correct. Not build a plan and then say

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Okay. Correct. Gotcha.

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» Uh and then here are your upcoming

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meeting dates. And so with that, I can

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answer any council questions.

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No. All right. Thank you very much.

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>> All right. We are going to move on to

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staff reports, please, then.

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>> All right. Uh, starting with fire

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department. So, we often talk about the

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fire department and their um

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firefighting training and their um calls

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for fire. But I thought this month we

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might just kind of highlight the fact

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that they do run an ambulance and that

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takes a a good amount of their time.

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calls. So just

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uh looking at this chart, this is on

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average about five calls a day that

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they're running. Um, as you can see,

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they spend a lot of time in the city of

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Alvette, but we are also contracted for

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um, fire service, fire and EMS service

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for the pocket of uninccorporated that's

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just north of us on Dealman. So, we

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respond there. St. Louis County

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contracts with us, pays us to provide

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that service to them. And then we do get

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called out of town um often to um Creve

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Corps or U City um or certain things on

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the highway we might get called out for both police and or for EMS and fire

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parks and wreck. Uh we just finished

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earlier this month uh municipals. So,

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municipals is this uh part of this photo

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right here is h offered every other year

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and it is a camp that highlights the

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city departments. So, the police

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department had a day and brought out the

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mounted patrol from St. Charles County,

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brought out some therapy dogs, brought

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out some um other fun police things. The

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fire department had a day had an half a

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day and they got to go down the slide

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and the fire department because we have

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a slide and not a pole and they got to

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do some other fun uh firefighter things.

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opportunity to partner with Emerson who

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is a business here in the city of

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Alvette and they came and did uh science

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things with uh with the kids. So they

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did the egg drop project um learning

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about gravity and um force distribution

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and things like that. And so the kids

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had a good time. And then the other

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thing with uh the parks department, this

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happens to be the segment uh one of the

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new segments of the Centennial Greenway.

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for more than one year, maintenance

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falls to the city. And so this is our um

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horiculturalist

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and our park staff who are clearing um

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clearing the fence lines uh along along

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that particular section of the trail

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planning department. So these are fiscal

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year to date. So from June of 25 through

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July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through

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June of this year. So, as you can see,

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um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots

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of people got their roof replaced um in

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this particular fiscal year, most likely

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from uh the storm that came through in

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um in this in May of last year. Um and

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we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,

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this could be like reinvestment by

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businesses or new businesses coming in

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or updates to businesses. Uh so this is

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a good sign and what has um been keeping

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one aspect of what has been keeping um

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Carlos and his staff very busy over the

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course of the year.

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The police department uh officer Bagsby,

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this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to

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Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking

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about gun safety in particular uh

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gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department

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donated 50 gunlocks for this particular

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event. So, this is just a reminder that

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our police department has gunlocks

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available to anyone in the community who

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is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and

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they are available Monday through

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Friday, normal business hours. Just go

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see the records clerk um here at city

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center uh if that's something that you

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are interested.

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And then public works. Um, if you have

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driven at Price, North Price and Olive,

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you have seen a lot of work there. Uh,

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this happens to be the contractor. They

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did some paving overnight. They did a

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really um a really nice job on that

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work. The work here at the 9201 Olive

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site where um the CBDraton building was,

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there has been a delay. It is not a

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delay related to the city.

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It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't

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where wasn't as deep as we thought it

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was.

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That required some changes to storm

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water drains that MDOT took a long time

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trying to figure out what they wanted.

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Um but work is moving forward. In fact,

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Spire was on site today moving the gas

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line that needed to be moved in order to

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accommodate um the storm drain. So,

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we're a little bit behind on where we

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thought we would be to close out this

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project. Um, but it is related to

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situations beyond our control. And then

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we do have some good news. So, as you

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might recall, we um put in for a grant

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for

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um reconstruction of North Price between

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Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant.

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And while we have not received the grant

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yet, we are on the recommended list. So,

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um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this

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week to review that recommended list and

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hopefully approve that list and

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hopefully we will be approved so that we

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can um move forward

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with reconstruction of that section of

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North Price. It is a multi-year project.

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So there will be design time and

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right-of-way acquisition time and then

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construction time. So it's looking

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probably a 3 to four year long u process

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and that is all I have unless you have

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any additional questions for me.

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>> Questions? Pencil? No, it's very

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thorough. Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you.

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>> All right, we will move on to monthly

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financial reports, please.

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All right, I am filling in for our

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interim finance director who um she had

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a previously scheduled event this

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evening. So um you are seeing the report

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for the second month of the year. Um

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as you can see we are we are on track.

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Um general revenue started the year

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above expectations by about $37,000.

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General fund expenditures are also above

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expectations. Um this is normal. We have

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a variety of um like all of our

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insuranceances are due. So workers comp,

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liability, property, all of that is due

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um at the very beginning of the year. So

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um that's not unexpected.

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Um it does result in an unfavorable

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variance. But again, we are um this is

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the July financial report. So at this

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point, we were one month into uh into

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the into the into the year.

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Um it is not unusual for property taxes

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to be slow. Again, we get those in um

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December and January.

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And um parks and wreck revenues started

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the year mixed um and they do um they

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exceeded budget projections due to high

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soccer enrollments. So soccer is very popular. And then the chart of our

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month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales

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tax, which we took out a bunch of the

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noise. If you might remember past

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graphs, there were a lot of lines there.

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So this is just the last two years. So

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fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we

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are um for 27. So we are of course

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higher than 25 and a little bit below um

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of 26.

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So if you have any questions, I'm happy

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to answer those for you.

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>> We anticipate a drop off or I don't

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remember what the drop off. Yeah,

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>> we don't anticipate the drop off, but I

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will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.

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So, anything that we uh receive in

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September is actually from people buying

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things in July because it's always a

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two-month lag.

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>> Um, so

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we could it could also be um July is a

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is half the year and a quarter of the

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year. And so there are certain entities

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that only report sales tax half of the

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year, half of the way through the year

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and a quarter of the way through the

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year. So that um drop off could have

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been somebody missed the cut off. Um so

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there are a variety of of factors that

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could um account for that.

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>> But it bounced back up bounced back up.

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>> Correct. Yeah.

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>> Correct. particularly if it's um they

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just miss the cut off because then you

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get to you know you get it the next

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month. So

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» that's all I have unless you have

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anything else.

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>> No. Any questions?

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>> No.

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>> Okay.

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>> All right. Thank you. All right. We're

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going to move on to city council liaison

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reports for each council member to give

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an update of kind of activities they've

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been up to. Uh council member Clark,

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>> I have no reports at this time. Council

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member Jurgal.

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>> Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of

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the meeting was the installation of two

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new commissioners. So uh was kind of

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orient or orienting them to the process.

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And it was great going through it again

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because u uh they went over all of you

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know of city government and uh I know I

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was given the training beforehand but

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when you hear it the second time it

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sinks in a little bit more. So that's

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always good. Um, one other thing that's

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coming up with uh the parks is going to

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be the review of the Indian Meadows uh

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pavilions. So, that that's on their

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agenda and uh should be moving along.

404
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>> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.

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>> Uh, no report for me this evening. I do

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have an EDC meeting next Monday.

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>> It's on.

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>> It's

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Oh, the light is hitting my mistake.

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It's my first day. All right. uh

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chairman promis

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I attended the PCDC meeting on August

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20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh

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metal canopy was approved for the brass

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tap to help extend the seasons for them

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um and extend some seating outside

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during the wintertime months. So, that

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was approved. Um, and that the roof of

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that structure will stay throughout the

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year, but then there's a wall kind of

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enclosure that's temporary for the uh

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months of November through Feb fe

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November through February.

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Um, we also discussed continued

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discussing a text amendment for coin

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operated laundromats.

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Um and a new single family home was

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approved for 1123 Hilltop

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and uh also had discussion on a text

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amendment to allow for other warehousing

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and storage that would be specifically

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for car condominiums.

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So, these are uh spaces that would be um

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condominiums that would be sold to

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individuals uh who would likely store

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their luxury cars, potentially

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um RVs and boats. Um but they would be

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individual condominiums. So, kind of a

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new thing um coming before the

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commission and and so it's um at the

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discussion stage at this point. Um and

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that's all. Thank you.

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>> Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the

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privilege of speaking uh chamber of

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commerce uh for the state of the city

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and it's an opportunity where I get to

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go and give a state of the city of how

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we're doing from an economic and

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residential and development and just how

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we're overall you know what is all of

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that and get to brag on all of that

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which was very exciting and a big thank

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you to staff Kiana and uh others for

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helping you know draft things put

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together a great slideshow and it was

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you know really wellreceived and get and

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get to meet some people there so that

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was really nice and then today I

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attended the Olivet housing authority uh

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where they had a few procedural items

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reviewing the financial audit reports

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approving other things talking about

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next steps on everything around some of

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the policies we're moving forward on the

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housing. So that that is progressing as

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well. Um and then um yeah those were

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things that I got to attend. So uh we'll

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move on to item seven items from council

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members. So, a chance for us just if

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we've been hearing things that you want

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to bring up for a future topic, we won't

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go deep into them now. And uh just a

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open forum.

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>> Nope.

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>> Nothing for me.

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>> All right. No,

477
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>> nothing for me.

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either. The only things

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I'll mention um since not everyone

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probably was able to attend previous

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meetings we've had and since I see a lot

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of uh speakers here which is going to be

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great is we did at a previous work

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session a few weeks ago discuss the

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Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh

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council member Joel mentioned that's

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going to come before parks and wreck

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where they're going to we asked to go

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back to their ask for their assessment

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and then it'll come back to the council

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at that point um and we'd given the

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direction to look at what it would take

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to remove and what their thoughts were

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and then uh we'll get their feedback on

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that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously

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discussed block cameras with the uh

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chief of police and so that will be on a

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future agenda so just calling that out

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as well as the NIT policy will be on a

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future uh agenda in the future as well

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uh and then obvious

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uh I imagine people here to speak as

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well and so appreciated that we had

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committed ID committed back that we're

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going to meet with our legal team to

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understand what options all of it has

507
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because it is a unique situation and

508
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then uh happy to meet with the concerned

509
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citizens themselves and any council are

510
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welcome to join me to want to hear

511
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everyone's you know concerns in person

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and understand everything and then after

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that we'll take whatever the appropriate

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actions that we can and don't know what

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those are right now can't promise

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anything but you know want to hear from

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everyone and then we'll we'll see what

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comes of that so all right uh we're

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going to move on to hearing from

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citizens so this is a portion of the

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agenda where anyone present in person or

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virtually may address the city council

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regarding any topic including those

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later in the agenda each speaker is

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allowed up three minutes to address the

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mayor and city council. Hearing from

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citizens is designed for councils to

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receive feedback rather than for a

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direct dialogue. We will take speakers

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in person first followed by any online.

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If you are in person, please complete a

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speaker card and give it to the clerk.

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If you've already given your card to the

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clerk, we will take you in the order

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submitted on your card. If you are

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online, wish to speak, please use the

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raise your hand feature and you will be

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added as a speaker. For all speakers, we

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ask that you state your name and address

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for the record prior to leaving the

541
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remarks and that you keep the three

542
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,000
minutes and just so for the equity for

543
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960
everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and

544
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:17,590
Bob Martin, please.

545
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,720
And if you don't mind turning on the

546
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,440
mic, please.

547
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,120
>> Yep.

548
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,720
Perfect.

549
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,320
>> Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin.

550
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,360
Nancy Martin

551
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,039
>> and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week

552
00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,760
we sent all you guys an email regarding

553
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,159
uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute.

554
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:42,880
Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.

555
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,200
Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding.

556
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,000
>> Yes.

557
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,880
>> Um, following are excer ex excuse me

558
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960
excerpts from the Missouri state chapter

559
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,480
220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is

560
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,640
any act done or committed or suffered to

561
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,120
be done, committed by any person or any

562
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,200
substance or thing kept, maintained,

563
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,760
placed or found in any public or private

564
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,520
property that is injurous to the public

565
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,320
health, safety or welfare. are to permit

566
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,919
premises to become unsightly,

567
00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:14,080
unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the

568
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,640
vicini to the vicinity or offensive to

569
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,039
the senses of users of the public way

570
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,520
abudding the premises that depreciates

571
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,919
the enjoyment and the use of the

572
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:26,480
property in the immediate vicinity to

573
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,559
such an extent that it is harmful to the

574
00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:30,159
community in which the property is

575
00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:34,000
situated or such a condition exists. AZZ

576
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,679
Galvanizing fits every one of these

577
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,000
definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned

578
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,679
light industrial, but it's expanded

579
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:42,480
several times over the years. It's not

580
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,799
light industrial anymore. We are asking

581
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,960
Alvette to protect its citizens from

582
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,640
this nuisance and use statute title 7

583
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,320
cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7

584
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720
I'm sorry 71.780

585
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,720
nuisances expensive suppression how paid

586
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,279
the noise and toxic emissions are

587
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,520
unbearable and hazardous to our

588
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,120
neighbors health and quality of life and

589
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,000
ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom

590
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,240
that faces away from ACZ because we

591
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,080
can't sleep in our master bedroom

592
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,640
anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy

593
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,480
our beautiful yard. We've lived in

594
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,840
Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,

595
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,880
>> please help us.

596
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Um, they're getting worse and worse.

597
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,520
And we're up on Brford High where the

598
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600
noise really hits us, but our neighbors

599
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,520
in Indian Meadows are just getting

600
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760
creamed. They're getting gassed. It's

601
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840
terrible. But thank you very much for

602
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,799
coming. Really appreciate it.

603
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:46,870
>> Thank you.

604
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,919
» All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny

605
00:25:49,919 --> 00:26:00,310
Littleton.

606
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720
Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live

607
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,320
at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask

608
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,919
my city council if they would please

609
00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:10,320
support and help all of the residents

610
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,679
deal with this do's a galvanizing.

611
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:16,320
It's to the point where my son who's

612
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,559
seven, he's beginning to have temper

613
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:22,400
tantrums because he has a trampoline, a

614
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,919
basketball hoop, a soccer net that now

615
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:28,400
he can't play because when he begins to

616
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,600
play, I have to make him come in. And so

617
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,200
now he's getting upset, stumping yelling

618
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,120
in the house. What's the purpose of me

619
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,360
having this if I can't play? When are

620
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:40,960
they going to move that company? He's

621
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,279
seven years old. This is the point where

622
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:48,080
he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now

623
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,600
he's having them because he's not

624
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,080
getting to play outside. And this was

625
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,120
for the summer. So, I had to make fun

626
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,960
activities in my basement. So, I mean,

627
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,799
now the children, it's to the point

628
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,240
where I'm asking the kids and my

629
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,159
subdivision, you you guys got to go home

630
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:05,919
now. You can't play here. Can we come

631
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:07,679
back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you

632
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:10,400
can come back. So, now the kids, it's

633
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,159
just getting to be too much. And then

634
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:14,400
also, I'm I know you brought up about

635
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,679
you're going to bring it up with the

636
00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:17,919
parks and you guys are going to redisuss

637
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:20,559
about the pavilion. Please move that

638
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,480
pavilion. There's so much going on that

639
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960
my son is seven. He said, "There's

640
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,919
always something going on over here at

641
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:31,039
this pavilion. Problems every day. He's

642
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,559
seven. There was a time he didn't know

643
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,039
anything about that. Now he's seven."

644
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,520
And he's saying these things. And one of

645
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,640
the neighbors, she couldn't be here

646
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,640
today. She did ask me, "Until you guys

647
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,120
decide about how you're going to move

648
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,600
it, would you please at least move the

649
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
tables underneath the pavilion while you

650
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,360
guys are trying to figure out how you're

651
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,559
going to move that pavilion?" So until

652
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,240
you have a due date when you're going to

653
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,919
move it, could you please at least move

654
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:58,399
the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery

655
00:27:58,399 --> 00:28:00,320
that happens in the morning, afternoon,

656
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,399
and night, they won't have anywhere to

657
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:05,360
sit and lay and do all of that extra

658
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,600
activity that's unwanted and that we

659
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080
don't need. So I just wanted to ask you

660
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,679
guys, would you please bless our

661
00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:13,440
community to help all the residents

662
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,679
dealing with a galvanizing and the

663
00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:18,480
nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?

664
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,399
Thank you so much. Thank you very much

665
00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:23,830
for coming.

666
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,000
All right.

667
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:34,230
Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.

668
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,679
» Good evening.

669
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:38,640
>> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on

670
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,480
first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and

671
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,320
Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's

672
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,080
just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four

673
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,840
o'clock. It wakes you up and then you

674
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,520
can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it

675
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,240
off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I

676
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,679
guess, when they figure people or

677
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:57,600
whatever's going on. But it's just been

678
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,760
ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we

679
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,080
haven't really said a lot because, you

680
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,440
know, that there were attorneys working

681
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760
on it. So, you know, we want to continue

682
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,520
that. But we need the help of the city.

683
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,760
So, I hope that that uh state statute

684
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,520
will help. I got a couple other things

685
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,640
real quick. Um, one is our park and I

686
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,679
know when they redid the the uh the

687
00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,440
trail, but they didn't do anything to

688
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,520
the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind

689
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,760
of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,

690
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,880
the black that's in the actual park in

691
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,799
Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly

692
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,360
in some areas. So, the other concern is

693
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,200
we have two spaces in uh the new park

694
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,600
area that when it we get heavy rain,

695
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,600
it's full of water. So the kids go out

696
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,919
there and play. Then they muddy muddy up

697
00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:46,320
everything which is by the water park.

698
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,000
And then the other area is by the

699
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,559
playground area around one of the trees

700
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:52,320
is set real low so if we can get that

701
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,880
build back up so that the water won't

702
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,520
set there. Um the other one is the

703
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360
trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I

704
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,200
know they've cut some down but when we

705
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,919
get any kind of a rain or wind, I should

706
00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:06,480
say wind, there's branches all over the

707
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,159
park. And I realize it's more than one

708
00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:10,080
park. So sometimes it take them a while.

709
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,760
But then the kids are playing and you

710
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,200
got these big branches that are laying

711
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,679
all over the park trail. Uh, one more

712
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:19,600
thing. How chickens.

713
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600
We got the chicken coupoops gone from

714
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,960
the side of the house, but there is a

715
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,039
pin. So, I've asked over and over about

716
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,279
an ordinance to be written so that I

717
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:28,799
don't care about the chickens, but they

718
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,960
need to be fenced in in the back of the

719
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,240
house and not in the very front.

720
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,080
This these chicken coops were on the

721
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,919
front on the side of the home. and I've

722
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:40,799
complained for a couple of years. And so

723
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:42,880
it's my understanding that all of that

724
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880
has been washed aside. I don't know if

725
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,559
anybody knows if that is true, but I'm

726
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:48,320
going to I'm going to research it that

727
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640
that's over. The governor was is the one

728
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,159
that uh approved that, but it's my

729
00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:55,760
understanding that they've been fighting

730
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,279
it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we

731
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:00,799
get an ordinance where they are are

732
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,960
fenced in in the back? And then I think

733
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240
that's it. Um Oh. We have another area

734
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,919
in our subdivision and I've complained

735
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:11,360
about it several times. We need some

736
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,799
help uh with uh enforcement of uh

737
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,799
property upkeep. So, we got a lot of

738
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,720
issues with that, but I understand we

739
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,520
only have one part-time person

740
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,679
and for this city, we could probably use

741
00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:29,679
one or two to just do property upkeep

742
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:34,320
for the for uh all of the the entire uh

743
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,710
et

744
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,159
Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner

745
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:44,399
of Grand View and La Hoya. There are

746
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:47,600
huge papa trees that have grown out into

747
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,679
the street. I've asked you can't even

748
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:51,840
see the street sign. The the trees were

749
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,760
trimmed back right at the sign, but of

750
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,600
course they grow back. I'm asking that

751
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,200
something be done about those trees

752
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,360
because it's really a hindrance. If you

753
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,279
are coming up to the stop sign and

754
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:02,480
somebody's coming from the other

755
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,720
direction, these trees are huge and they

756
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,519
are actually in the street.

757
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,840
You familiar with that? you know, been

758
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,320
over there in

759
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,279
>> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.

760
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,039
So, we have several areas where the

761
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,279
trees are actually growing into the

762
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,120
street, ground up, not just hanging

763
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,120
over. So, they actually block traffic.

764
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,679
>> That's it.

765
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:24,720
>> Thank you very much.

766
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200
>> Appreciate it.

767
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:37,430
>> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.

768
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,720
Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill

769
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Lane. So, I'm here to support the

770
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
residents um near Indian Meadows and

771
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,279
their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet

772
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:51,600
resident, but also I'm representing the

773
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who

774
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,519
have who the they have also gotten

775
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,840
involved in these issues. There are

776
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,039
really three issues. Light trespass,

777
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:06,159
potential air pollution, and noise. The

778
00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:08,320
light trespass that is occurring should

779
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
be easy to take care of because St.

780
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,760
Louis County already has an ordinance

781
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,799
against it. So, it'd be really good if

782
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,320
someone from Alvette notified the county

783
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,880
that light trespass from AZ shining into

784
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960
residents houses, shining off the

785
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,240
property into residents houses and ask

786
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,919
az to shield their lights.

787
00:33:33,919 --> 00:33:35,760
No, air pollution and noise are more

788
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640
difficult. However, Olivet can do

789
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720
something about it. The residents have

790
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960
been complaining about AZ for at least

791
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,679
two years. But they didn't give up. They

792
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:48,080
found a regulation that cities can

793
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,200
enforce ordinances up to a half mile

794
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240
outside their boundaries. Alvette needs

795
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
to step up and support its citizens. The

796
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200
county does not have the necessary

797
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,399
equipment to determine if ACC is

798
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:04,559
emitting pollutants

799
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,799
and to

800
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,839
and and to identify the pollutants.

801
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:13,040
However, the outside groups that that

802
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,639
they're working with um they're trying

803
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,320
to um install air monitors and analyze

804
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,760
air samples and noise monitors. So, I

805
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,639
encourage you to work with them to get

806
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,079
data to back up their claims.

807
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,280
Um, noise is a harder problem, but put

808
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,760
yourself in these resident shoes. How

809
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,240
would you like to hear a loud bang

810
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:40,079
several times in the middle of the

811
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:41,599
night?

812
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,520
I'm asking you to find a way to stop the

813
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399
loud noise at night and determine if az

814
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:48,480
is polluting the air and if they are to

815
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,119
try to stop them. These problems should

816
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,599
not be ignored and all of it can and

817
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:55,919
should do something about them.

818
00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,359
>> Thank you very much. Appreciate your

819
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:59,520
time.

820
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,200
>> Right. Is there anyone else in the

821
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:11,510
audience who wanted to speak?

822
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,320
» Good evening.

823
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,800
>> Evening.

824
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,599
>> My name is Denise Williams. I live at

825
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,200
9600 Hiron Drive.

826
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
I just have to say I live ac across the

827
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,800
street from the park

828
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200
where

829
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,599
all this noise

830
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,470
have been going on for quite a while.

831
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
And

832
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,880
hearing this noise all day

833
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,990
and throughout your time of rest

834
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,640
is depreciating

835
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200
your livelihood.

836
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,240
I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest.

837
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,200
I've retired to come home and enjoy the

838
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000
kids, enjoy my bed where I've been

839
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,720
missing it for all this time. And then

840
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,160
you come home and you're hearing all of

841
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,960
this unnecessary

842
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,680
noise that's not supposed to be a part

843
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,040
of your life in Eloette.

844
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,079
I used to call Alvette when I moved here

845
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,079
sleepy hollow.

846
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:25,990
Very quiet, very surreal.

847
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,680
That has been stolen.

848
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,920
And

849
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,839
days and days and days have passed by

850
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,000
and all of you all are sleeping

851
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,079
comfortably while we're up in the I walk

852
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,880
the trail three times a day. You hear

853
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,160
it? It's supposed to be surreal on the

854
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,720
um path. It's supposed to be something

855
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,000
great that you all have done for the

856
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,790
community.

857
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
I don't think so.

858
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,920
Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that

859
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,079
stuff big

860
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:10,640
just so much smoke it covers the whole

861
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,829
park. The stench comes in your windows.

862
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:18,480
You smell it at night.

863
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,599
Not including the noise, but the smoke,

864
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,270
the stench.

865
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,800
So

866
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,119
imagine, close your eyes and imagine

867
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:32,400
that's how your days are going. Every

868
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,920
day you got to deal with this every day.

869
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,280
Your kids are inhaling this

870
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040
poison.

871
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,320
We're at 70. They're cutting years off

872
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,880
our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's

873
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,960
chemicals that we're absorbing into our

874
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,440
bodies. the kids are absorbing over at

875
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160
the park that is so nice to have in the

876
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,400
neighborhood, but it's being blown

877
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,800
straight to hell.

878
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,320
Their lives are being cut short.

879
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,839
And

880
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:11,520
you guys are

881
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,240
when y'all sleep at night, just think

882
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,680
your glory oliveette

883
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,800
is causing suffering

884
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,680
for a lot of of your community and we're

885
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,320
just asking you to really take this to

886
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,560
heart and understand what we're dealing

887
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,160
with.

888
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,880
Thank you.

889
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,160
>> Thank you very much for coming.

890
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,829
Appreciate it.

891
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:39,760
All right. Anyone else in the audience

892
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,320
wish to speak?

893
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,640
Is there anyone online? Please raise

894
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,550
your hand.

895
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,240
All right. Thank you for everyone for

896
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,520
your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.

897
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,960
All right. We are going to move on now

898
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,240
to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please

899
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,040
have the title be read? Bill 3066, an

900
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,880
ordinance authorizing a special permit

901
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,800
usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of

902
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,880
the property grounds, addressed as 9600

903
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,839
and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit

904
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:15,599
Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

905
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,160
outdoor display and storage area on the

906
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,839
east parking lot portion associated with

907
00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:22,079
their tenant space addressed as 9612

908
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,880
Olive Boulevard. Second reading.

909
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,910
>> Thank you.

910
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,280
Good evening, mayor, members of the

911
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,880
council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm

912
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,240
the director of planning and community

913
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,480
development, and I'm requesting a second

914
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,040
reading call for action for uh this

915
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,640
bill. We had our public hearing on

916
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560
August 11th. Be glad to answer any

917
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,520
questions, and we do have a

918
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,800
representative in attendance if

919
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,160
necessary.

920
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,000
>> The only question I had is I think there

921
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,320
was a an ask to look at and I think

922
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
council man had asked about it like in

923
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,920
terms of the location, could it be

924
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,599
wedged into the corner in the back or

925
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:57,599
anything like that? Was that feasible?

926
00:39:57,599 --> 00:39:59,680
Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm

927
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,520
remembering correctly,

928
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,680
>> that was related if like parking was an

929
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,079
issue.

930
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:04,800
>> Yeah.

931
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,800
>> If that and and that may be something

932
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,200
that needs to be looked at if it becomes

933
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,480
an issue or not.

934
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:10,960
>> That's fine.

935
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,079
>> Um, and but I I think that's what we

936
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:14,640
were talking about.

937
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,440
>> That is correct. Okay.

938
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,640
>> That's my understanding.

939
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,000
>> Yeah. And I guess my question is a

940
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,040
procedural question related um just with

941
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440
us being a fairly new council. Should

942
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,400
there be an issue that becomes apparent

943
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,440
with parking um or traffic movement with

944
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,359
the location safety um what what is the

945
00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:38,560
process for if if we approve the special

946
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,720
permit as it is tonight but realize that

947
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,240
it is not functioning in in the way that

948
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:46,079
we intended it to.

949
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,079
>> We'll engage with the uh first engage

950
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:49,920
with the applicant or the petitioner

951
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,480
that operates a special use permit. see

952
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,800
what we can try to mitigate what is out

953
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
there, get a better understanding, uh

954
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,160
then ultimately report back to the

955
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,680
council. The council does have the right

956
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,119
to revoke a permit uh if it finds that

957
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:04,880
there is some val validation to the

958
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,790
concerns that are expressed

959
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,640
» question. How do we define parking

960
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400
issues? Like what do we consider that to

961
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,640
be?

962
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,200
>> That's a very good question. I mean that site I would assume uh that there

963
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,800
will be some type of reported incident

964
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,280
on Olive or so. But if somebody just

965
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,119
can't find a parking space on a specific

966
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:25,440
date uh you know they can bring that

967
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,960
information we can try to log it and

968
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
record it. But you know it would have to

969
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,000
be something that that's known uh in

970
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680
there and then the the process that we

971
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,200
had today of the people speaking before

972
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
the council noting concerns or issues

973
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,599
gets it on the record. I imagine that

974
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:39,920
makes

975
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,280
>> well and I imagine if the city got

976
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,119
notified we that could be brought

977
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,640
forward to us but I think about

978
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,800
hypothetically a certain parking lot you

979
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,480
know south of us at the end of 170 I

980
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,920
hear people complain about you know all

981
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,440
the time it's like you if we hear about

982
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,960
citizens something we can bring up too

983
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,200
hopefully it's not an issue and

984
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
>> ultimately that it is I mean we will

985
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,200
report back to the council the council

986
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680
has you know if there's a consensus that

987
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,760
it is an issue I would assume the

988
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,400
council holds the authority to revoke

989
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,680
the permit or push

990
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,720
>> modify

991
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,800
solution.

992
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880
>> And we talked about Dobs only using the

993
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,400
first row of parking, right?

994
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,839
>> That is a private agreement, I believe,

995
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:19,599
that they have with the property owner

996
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:20,880
that they're supposed to be using only

997
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,280
that.

998
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,119
>> Okay. That's not a city enforcable.

999
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:24,880
>> It wasn't anything that we we put in

1000
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,599
into our our contingencies or so because

1001
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,079
that's more again that's open parking

1002
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:31,680
for this.

1003
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,880
>> Okay.

1004
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,280
>> Is the parking lot itself owned by one

1005
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,000
parcel or another? It's the best the

1006
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,680
best of my understanding it's all owned

1007
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,720
by uh or the O3BP Associates which

1008
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:47,040
operates as Biano Properties. They have

1009
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,880
the the ownership of all the grounds and

1010
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,760
then dos leases from them in there. I

1011
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
know there are like three different

1012
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,680
parcels identified by county but it's

1013
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,440
one large site.

1014
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,240
>> Okay.

1015
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:00,720
>> All right.

1016
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:04,640
>> And then this is uh fairly random and I

1017
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,160
do apologize. I did not send this

1018
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,760
question to you ahead of time. Has there

1019
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,640
been any consideration with the little

1020
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,920
driveway, not driveway, but

1021
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,079
uh right ofway area in the front of that

1022
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,079
building where you have a curb cut on

1023
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,240
one side, a curve cut on the other side.

1024
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,560
Has there been any consideration to

1025
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,520
closing that driveway? This obviously is

1026
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
bigger than this particular special use

1027
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,720
permit, but through

1028
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,720
>> it's it's one of those it's a long-term

1029
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:36,800
discussion. We put together the council

1030
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,839
had authorized the uh us to do the

1031
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:43,280
olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master

1032
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,160
plan and it identified uh you know areas

1033
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,599
and that that's one of the sides.

1034
00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,680
Unfortunately with the curvature of the

1035
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,880
road is one problem. The intersections

1036
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,400
of the opposite streets on the north

1037
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,560
side is another problem. and then none

1038
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,000
of the aprons align. Um, easy solution

1039
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,760
is to place a median. That resolve all

1040
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,920
the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a

1041
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880
lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over

1042
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,480
time working with those property owners,

1043
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,160
we made them familiar with with the

1044
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,720
concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and

1045
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,599
we've had discussions about, you know,

1046
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,599
kind of nudging them to think think

1047
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,079
ahead of reassessing the whole parking

1048
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,319
layout on the the shopping center. It's

1049
00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,480
a it's tough. It's something I got, you

1050
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,440
know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a

1051
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,920
determination of how that layout was was

1052
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,520
put in place and whether they looked at

1053
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,440
the the external factors and what was

1054
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,440
across the street. I can't tell you

1055
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,079
that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess

1056
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:41,680
we've made them aware. They know that

1057
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,839
there are issues. They're looking at

1058
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:46,960
some formal way that maybe

1059
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,880
uh over time that we can kind of like

1060
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200
reshift or consolidate that but it get

1061
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,280
becomes expensive and that becomes the

1062
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680
key question. Is it all on their dime or

1063
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,119
is it something that we collaborate with

1064
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,119
them and partner with uh in that

1065
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,200
process? If you go back to the catalyst

1066
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,720
tragedy uh another uh you know uh report

1067
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,880
that the council funded uh and there why

1068
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,520
it didn't go the full extent uh to old

1069
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,680
bonum road you know it talked about

1070
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,280
creating some type of uh traffic uh uh improvement district or or

1071
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,880
transportation improvement district to

1072
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,640
look at means of getting that you know

1073
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,960
re well it needs to be reassessed in

1074
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,119
terms of where are the best points of

1075
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:30,240
entry uh in there and and internal

1076
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,319
circulations are going to be also need

1077
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:33,920
to be looked at and of course the

1078
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
streetscape enhancements. So I hope that

1079
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,160
kind of addresses it. I mean it is as

1080
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,800
long as I my response to you

1081
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,560
>> probably another night for

1082
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,720
>> but I think it can be done within within

1083
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:48,560
you know you know the the plan's

1084
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,720
horizon.

1085
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,440
>> All right, any other questions?

1086
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,359
>> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a

1087
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:58,560
motion to approve bill 3066, an

1088
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,960
ordinance authorizing a special permit

1089
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,760
use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners

1090
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,760
of the property grounds addressed at

1091
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,760
9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit

1092
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

1093
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,079
outdoor display and storage area on the

1094
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,560
east parking lot portion associated with

1095
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,079
their tenant space addressed as 9612

1096
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,280
Olive Boulevard.

1097
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,040
>> Second. All right. Motion made by

1098
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,200
Council Member Jagos, second by Council

1099
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,119
Member Clark. Can we please pull to

1100
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,079
council?

1101
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,200
>> Council member Juel.

1102
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,520
>> Yes.

1103
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,880
>> Council member Solomonov.

1104
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,200
>> Yes.

1105
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,319
>> Council member Clark.

1106
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:34,640
>> Yes.

1107
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,319
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

1108
00:46:36,319 --> 00:46:36,640
>> Yes.

1109
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,520
>> Mayor Lewis.

1110
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,000
>> Yes.

1111
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,240
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes

1112
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,520
ordinance 2836.

1113
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,040
>> Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's

1114
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440
the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on

1115
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,839
to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please

1116
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:52,240
have the title be read? Bill 3067, an

1117
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,920
ordinance authorizing a special permit

1118
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,119
usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the

1119
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,480
property grounds, addressed as 10401

1120
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,560
Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced

1121
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480
driver assistance systems to operate an

1122
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,720
indoor automotive repair facility within

1123
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,520
the tenants space addressed as 10401

1124
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,280
Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second

1125
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680
reading.

1126
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,480
>> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our

1127
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,079
previous meeting on August 11th along

1128
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:19,839
with a public hearing. be glad to answer

1129
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:21,359
any specific questions. We do have a

1130
00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:22,720
representative, Mr. Corbin, and I

1131
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,560
believe one of the operators uh in

1132
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,520
attendance.

1133
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,960
>> I didn't have any questions. I think we

1134
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,400
covered it last time as far as I'm

1135
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,839
concerned. Does anyone have any

1136
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:34,319
questions?

1137
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:35,839
Not to discredit. I think the work was

1138
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:37,520
great last time, so we got our answer.

1139
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,440
So, it's a very interesting new property

1140
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,680
to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone

1141
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,599
doesn't have any questions, um I'll

1142
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:48,240
entertain a motion. I'd like to make a

1143
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,480
motion to approve bill 3067, an

1144
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,240
ordinance authorizing a special permit

1145
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,280
use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the

1146
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,680
property grounds addressed at 10401

1147
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced

1148
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,400
driver assistance systems to operate an

1149
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,800
indoor automotive repair facility within

1150
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,560
the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower

1151
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,520
Boulevard, Sweet B.

1152
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,160
>> Second.

1153
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,079
>> All right. U motion's been made and a

1154
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,160
second. Can we please pull the council?

1155
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,520
member Dragal,

1156
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:17,839
>> yes.

1157
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:19,119
>> Council member Solammanov,

1158
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:19,440
>> yes.

1159
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,480
>> Council member Clark,

1160
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:20,880
>> yes.

1161
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,480
>> Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman,

1162
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:22,800
>> yes.

1163
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,520
>> Mayor Lewis,

1164
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,000
>> yes.

1165
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,240
>> Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes

1166
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,480
ordinance 2837.

1167
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,640
>> All right, moving on to item 11, please.

1168
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,119
Bill 3068. Can we please

1169
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:34,640
>> have the title read?

1170
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,040
>> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and

1171
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,839
adopting chapter 115, article 3, section

1172
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:43,760
115.080 080 to 115.120

1173
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,119
conflict of interest for the city of

1174
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,359
Alvette, Missouri municipal code and

1175
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:49,280
establishing a procedure to disclose

1176
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,800
potential conflicts of interest and

1177
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,640
substantial interests for certain

1178
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,760
municipal officials. Second reading

1179
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,760
>> so we covered this last time procedural

1180
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,119
that we need to do this.

1181
00:48:59,119 --> 00:48:59,839
>> That's correct.

1182
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:01,920
>> All right. I did not have any questions.

1183
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,599
Did anyone on the council?

1184
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:04,720
>> I had none.

1185
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,800
>> All right. Then I will entertain a

1186
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,440
motion. Make a motion to approve bill

1187
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,040
3068,

1188
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,200
an ordinance reaffirming and adopting

1189
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,240
chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080

1190
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:21,750
through 115.120,

1191
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,280
conflict of interest of the city of

1192
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,680
Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and

1193
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,680
establishing a procedure to disclose

1194
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,599
potential conflicts of interest and

1195
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,359
substantial interests for certain

1196
00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,680
municipal officials.

1197
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,040
>> All right, we hear a second.

1198
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,680
>> Second.

1199
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,119
>> All right. Can we please pull the

1200
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,480
council?

1201
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,599
>> Council member Duel.

1202
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:39,920
>> Yes.

1203
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,200
>> Council member Solomonov,

1204
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,440
>> yes.

1205
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,480
>> Council member Clark,

1206
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,800
>> yes.

1207
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,559
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

1208
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:44,960
>> Yes.

1209
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,839
>> Mayor Lewis,

1210
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:46,319
>> yes.

1211
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,559
>> Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes

1212
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:51,599
ordinance 2838.

1213
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,319
>> Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill

1214
00:49:54,319 --> 00:49:56,880
3069. Can we please have the title be

1215
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:57,280
read?

1216
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520
>> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an

1217
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,200
easement to Spire for the installation

1218
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,920
of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.

1219
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,359
Second reading.

1220
00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:07,520
Good evening, mayor and council members.

1221
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,319
Um, great news today. This buyer was on

1222
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:12,400
site to finally begin relocating that

1223
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,599
2-in high-pressure man. Um, any

1224
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,359
questions about our discussion from a

1225
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:19,760
couple weeks ago or thoughts since then

1226
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,760
about the wonderful world underneath our

1227
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,079
pavement [laughter]

1228
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:26,000
>> when you put it that way.

1229
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,960
>> Okay.

1230
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,960
>> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,

1231
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,119
>> I do not. I mean, nothing new to add

1232
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:31,680
from the

1233
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,960
>> Okay, so very good.

1234
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,880
>> Yeah. Nothing yet.

1235
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,000
>> Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain

1236
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,079
a motion,

1237
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:41,680
I guess. Do we have a motion on this

1238
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,720
directly or We do have a motion, right?

1239
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:46,160
>> Yeah.

1240
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,079
>> So, do do we need just reward it to

1241
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:48,960
approve this?

1242
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,119
>> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a

1243
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:55,119
motion to approve bill number 3069, etc.

1244
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:56,880
I would like to make a motion

1245
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,760
>> for bill 3069, an ordinance, an

1246
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,079
ordinance granting an easement to spire

1247
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:03,760
for the installation of an underground

1248
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,880
gas m.

1249
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,680
>> I second that.

1250
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,119
>> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can

1251
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:10,079
we please pull the council?

1252
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,200
>> Council member Duel.

1253
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:11,520
>> Yes.

1254
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,800
>> Council member Solomonov.

1255
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,119
>> Yes.

1256
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:14,160
>> Council member Clark.

1257
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:14,640
>> Yes.

1258
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.

1259
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,480
>> Yes.

1260
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,280
>> Mayor Lewis.

1261
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,920
>> Yes.

1262
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,920
>> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes

1263
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,599
ordinance 2839.

1264
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:22,240
>> Thank you very much.

1265
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:25,040
>> Thank you. Good luck.

1266
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,040
All right, move on to item 13. Bill

1267
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,200
3070. If we could please have the title

1268
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,390
be read.

1269
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,800
Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a

1270
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,800
special permit use for AC Richardson

1271
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,640
LLC, owners of the property grounds,

1272
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,800
addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial

1273
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,440
Court, to permit SSM Health Health

1274
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,599
Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to

1275
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,160
operate a 4566qt

1276
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,000
medical clinic within the tenant space

1277
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,720
addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive.

1278
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,079
First reading and public hearing.

1279
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:57,200
>> All right. As part of this public

1280
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,480
hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open

1281
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,440
up the public hearing for this bill. And

1282
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,240
good evening, Max.

1283
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:02,880
>> Yeah, welcome back.

1284
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,800
>> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm

1285
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,160
the director of planning and community

1286
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,839
development for the city of Alvette. And

1287
00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:10,559
tonight I'm here to present bill 3070,

1288
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,240
which is a special permit use request

1289
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,960
for uh medical offices and clinics at

1290
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,599
9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next

1291
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:19,119
slide will kind of show the location.

1292
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:21,440
It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial

1293
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,359
Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which

1294
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:25,760
is on the lower left hand corner of of

1295
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,400
the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in

1296
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,640
there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The

1297
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,800
building itself which you see the Lshape

1298
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,880
and the white roof there is roughly

1299
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,119
31,596

1300
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,880
ft. It's a multi-tenant office

1301
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,480
warehouse. You might be familiar with

1302
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,359
the uh the the artery is located in

1303
00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:46,160
there along with uh the USGS uh is

1304
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,000
located in that facility. Uh the

1305
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,760
proposed uses of medical office and

1306
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,119
clinics and since this is light

1307
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,520
industrial uh medical offices and

1308
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,839
clinics are identified in the permitted

1309
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,079
uses but only as a special permit and

1310
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:00,800
that is why SSM health cardinal linen is

1311
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,880
here before you. It's zone L light

1312
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,440
industrial district and it is authorized

1313
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
uh as a uh special permit use in the LI

1314
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:11,440
district. Uh the next slide

1315
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,800
uh kind of talks about the special

1316
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,000
permit procedure where we try to uh

1317
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,760
facilitate and then further our vision

1318
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,359
and goals with the comprehensive plan

1319
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:21,119
which we hope is reflective of our

1320
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,520
ordinances in the CO district but allows

1321
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,160
us to look at the potential impact the district itself the comp plan sites

1322
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,400
uh sustainability the surrounding

1323
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,359
impacts and then the council rights to

1324
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:36,160
buffer uh required from additional

1325
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,400
improvements and imposed some open space

1326
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,520
requirements. ments and to uh consider

1327
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,280
uh some limitations like in hours and things of that nature. It goes to

1328
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,720
our planning and community design

1329
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:49,040
commission for review and a

1330
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,960
recommendation and then a council holds

1331
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,800
the public hearing and then considers

1332
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,040
actions via an ordinance. On the next

1333
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,359
slide, just a couple of things regarding

1334
00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:58,800
special permit uses. There are some

1335
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,160
general conditions that are outlined

1336
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,319
with our ordinance. Those are that is it

1337
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:03,839
listed in the district? Does it further

1338
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:06,240
the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the

1339
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,319
location the parcel suitable for the

1340
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:09,680
environment surroundings? Is it

1341
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,680
complementaryary to the surroundings in

1342
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,440
the neighborhood and the improvements?

1343
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,599
Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to

1344
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,440
any potential spillover effects? And

1345
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,720
then of course it gives the city the

1346
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,880
authority to grant buffering designate

1347
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,280
areas for uh open space limit set

1348
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,760
limitations on operations implementation

1349
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,920
schedules meaning like over time they

1350
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,160
need to do this and consider adequacy of

1351
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,800
public services. The next slide we'll

1352
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,240
get into the nuts and bolts. This is a

1353
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:36,079
street view of the building facility.

1354
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:37,760
They'll be taking that front corner that

1355
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,319
you see there. It's approximately I I

1356
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:42,000
believe it's a little over 4,500 square

1357
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,480
f feet. We'll get to that specifically

1358
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,440
uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial

1359
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman

1360
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Industrial Court is on the left hand

1361
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,440
side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a

1362
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,680
short street uh that leads directly to a

1363
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,359
building that's in the background there.

1364
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,440
The next slide,

1365
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,000
this is the the uh just the tenant

1366
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,920
improvement plans that they're proposing

1367
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,760
uh that kind of exist in the existing

1368
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,800
site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I

1369
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,599
believe. Um they are when you look at it

1370
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,280
in comparison to the overall building

1371
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,200
which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000

1372
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,599
ft². Uh they're a little bit of around

1373
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,520
an eighth of the whole building uh in

1374
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,960
there. And you can see the corner area

1375
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,480
that they'll be taking up their space.

1376
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,640
It's kind of proportion to the the size

1377
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:32,240
on on the uh on the plan. The next slide

1378
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,000
will identify what are they doing. It's

1379
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,760
a 4,566

1380
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,760
square foot outpatient physical therapy

1381
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,800
clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the

1382
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,720
clinic provides multiddisciplinary

1383
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:44,880
therapy for physical therapy,

1384
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,559
occupational therapy, and speech therapy

1385
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:48,720
at their site. Uh they currently operate

1386
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,160
in Creve Corore and they're relocating

1387
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,839
to etc which is great. Uh the next slide

1388
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:55,760
uh kind of goes over the commission did

1389
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,000
review it and they motioned to recommend

1390
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,760
to the council that the uh council

1391
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,680
consider and approve authorization of

1392
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,520
the special permit. They use of course

1393
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,880
the comprehensive plan, our community

1394
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,520
goals in their review. Uh we look at the

1395
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,280
principles for economic development and

1396
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,880
our comprehensive update goals which is

1397
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,280
environmental sustainability investment,

1398
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,200
crime prevention, native plantings and

1399
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,200
strategic redevelopment. And you can see

1400
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,359
the check boxes as we go through in

1401
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,359
there to complete those boxes. Of

1402
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:23,200
course, they are asking uh for some

1403
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,040
additional landscaping along the Dealman

1404
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Industrial Drive uh component, which is

1405
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,880
the west side uh when you enter from the

1406
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680
stop sign area uh to replace exterior

1407
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,119
wallpack lights with those compatible

1408
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:34,640
with chapter 428, meaning that they're

1409
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,640
cut off facing down uh and there. And

1410
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,160
then to limit the hours of operation

1411
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,640
from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done

1412
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,559
in collaboration with the petitioner.

1413
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,240
And the concern was because it's a

1414
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,240
pediatric facility just to make sure

1415
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:49,839
that uh they're not interrupting or um

1416
00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:51,200
throughout the evening or when we have

1417
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,119
industrial traffic.

1418
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:54,960
On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter

1419
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,640
a couple of items just for the record.

1420
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,960
Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,

1421
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,240
including the 5-year economic

1422
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,400
development plan, the Alvette municipal

1423
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,400
code and zoning map, uh, the staff

1424
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,000
presentation and memorandum that was

1425
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,599
presented to the planning and community

1426
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:10,720
design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,

1427
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,240
including the petition and supporting

1428
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,480
plans and documents. Our public hearing

1429
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,160
notice, this is a public hearing. We

1430
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,880
were required to post this 15 days prior

1431
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,000
uh to tonight and that was posted in the county in St. Louis County on August

1432
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,559
10th, 2026. And you have a list of the

1433
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,799
properties that were notified. Uh we did

1434
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:31,200
300 ft which is above and beyond the 185

1435
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,280
called by code. Uh and then this

1436
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,079
presentation before the city council.

1437
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:37,599
So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any

1438
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:39,280
specific questions and then we do have

1439
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,480
representatives here I'd like to

1440
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,599
introduce.

1441
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:42,880
>> What's what was their current

1442
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,240
previously? what was who occupied? Uh it

1443
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,160
was an engineering firm I believe was

1444
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,640
the last uh firm that was there

1445
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,000
>> and it they're going to be if you don't

1446
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,079
mind going back to the uh overlay of the

1447
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:55,280
office they're going to be doing

1448
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,880
outpatient

1449
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,720
um I guess so patients come in and are

1450
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,839
seen there or is the expectation but

1451
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:05,200
because these are these cubes I guess

1452
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,559
I'm just wondering where where that

1453
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:06,880
occurs

1454
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,559
>> kind of like shows the internal layout I

1455
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:09,520
think there's going to be some changes

1456
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,119
and modifications I think that's what it

1457
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,440
looks like right now uh in there so they

1458
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,359
haven't applied but but yes they do

1459
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:17,920
one-on-one therapies with uh individual

1460
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,240
clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in

1461
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,760
there, probably a question that can

1462
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,760
better address than I could on the

1463
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,240
description.

1464
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,839
>> Um before we bring them up, other

1465
00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:27,440
questions people have or

1466
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,720
>> I had the same question.

1467
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,480
>> Yeah, I don't have it.

1468
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,720
>> I had a question on the hours. So,

1469
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,880
pediatric means all the way through 18,

1470
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,520
right? So, is the city limiting the

1471
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,680
hours or is that something that SSM is

1472
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:40,079
choosing?

1473
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:42,640
>> We talked with SSM about what hours and

1474
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,559
in there and that was within that range.

1475
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:46,799
which I think they they close at 5:30.

1476
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:48,559
Something we can check with them again.

1477
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,000
>> Okay. Okay.

1478
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,520
>> And then I was just curious, I don't see

1479
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,880
a landscape plan here yet, but um want

1480
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,200
to be clear about the area that this

1481
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,000
business would be working,

1482
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,240
>> like what part of the parcel they would

1483
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,280
be working on to improve the landscaping

1484
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,359
and hopefully get some trees out there

1485
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:09,920
and native plants, something other than

1486
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,599
just the turf. Um, and then also curious

1487
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,799
if there's going to be any signage on

1488
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:20,640
that corner there or that little kind of

1489
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,359
>> Mhm.

1490
00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:24,319
>> park that pokes out on the corner.

1491
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:26,559
>> Um, if there's any kind of signage that

1492
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:27,119
they're

1493
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,640
>> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,

1494
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,640
uh, on the right hand side, you'll see

1495
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,319
Deman Industrial Drive. That's where

1496
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:35,520
we're asking for some additional

1497
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,440
landscaping to be placed in there with

1498
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,920
50% of that being native. The one thing

1499
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,236
along this corner both going north

1500
00:59:42,236 --> 00:59:44,079
[snorts] you know where I'm when you're

1501
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:48,400
looking at that right road you are going

1502
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,799
north to south uh on the left you're

1503
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:54,079
going east to west uh on both portions

1504
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:57,839
of the road and you can see some of the the fiber indication there's fiber

1505
00:59:57,839 --> 00:59:59,839
and underground utilities all running

1506
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:02,559
through uh through there where I have

1507
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,319
the most excess of rightway believe it

1508
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:06,240
or not is going to be on the western

1509
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,400
side this used to be an easement and

1510
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,079
that's where I believe maybe that's why

1511
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,319
there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh

1512
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:13,760
in place. When the city took over the

1513
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,720
roads, we took over just a significant

1514
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,319
portion. A lot of times the parking

1515
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:19,680
would have been further back, we would

1516
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,160
have more area for landscaping and and

1517
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,920
things of that nature. So, we're looking

1518
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,680
here on the right hand side as you can

1519
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,000
go uh north to south that they do some

1520
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,799
uh some additional landscaping uh in

1521
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:33,359
their trees to be careful. probably

1522
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,119
preference would be more ornamental, but

1523
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:36,559
nothing that's going to be deeprooted

1524
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:38,000
because they're going to there's

1525
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,079
continue a matter of fact uh there was

1526
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:42,559
markings uh this morning again that

1527
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,400
somebody's running some type of fiber

1528
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,799
optics or things uh of that nature. So,

1529
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:49,440
it continuously gets torn out, but we'd

1530
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,720
like to get them more towards uh on the

1531
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,880
western or the eastern part of that hump

1532
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,040
as you see in the the grading uh in

1533
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,720
there to kind of hide some of the

1534
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,480
parking

1535
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,640
in there. We didn't look at the north as

1536
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,319
they're kind of more facing towards

1537
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:06,640
Olive uh in there. But again, I know I

1538
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
have a lot of uh

1539
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,520
utility stuff that runs uh underneath

1540
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,599
and the sidewalk kind of extends more

1541
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,920
along that area uh in there, but it

1542
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,200
could be discussion we can have with the

1543
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,280
property owner. In terms of signage, no

1544
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:20,400
signage has been proposed.

1545
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,559
Traditionally, the signage has been uh

1546
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,040
on the wall in there. I anticipate that

1547
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,040
they will continue to do so. I know

1548
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,119
ImageNet, which is also located on that

1549
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:33,119
building at the far uh left end uh which

1550
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:35,040
would be the eastern end of the building

1551
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,960
does have a monument sign at that back

1552
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,599
corner. So if they do another one, they

1553
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,240
have to place it uh towards the other

1554
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,400
apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate

1555
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,640
anything towards the front.

1556
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,640
>> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,

1557
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,480
obviously to increase our environmental

1558
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,799
sustainability and to have plantings

1559
01:01:54,799 --> 01:01:58,319
along that um area as much as possible

1560
01:01:58,319 --> 01:02:00,240
that not only are good for the

1561
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,640
environment but can also provide shade

1562
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,200
um and reduce the heat on that um

1563
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,680
asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the

1564
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,880
other piece with Oh, and safety as well

1565
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,160
because you're going to have kids in

1566
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,680
that parking lot and obviously it's

1567
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,119
worst case scenario thinking that

1568
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:18,640
somebody's jump going to jump the curb

1569
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,319
and go over, you know, that's obviously

1570
01:02:20,319 --> 01:02:22,960
worst case scenario, but any buffer

1571
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,480
>> uh that we can put in there is a good

1572
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,960
one. Um, and the same concern with

1573
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,599
safety for signage. Um just so that when

1574
01:02:29,599 --> 01:02:31,200
we've got parents who are looking for

1575
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,040
the facility that it's clear and we

1576
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,000
don't have kind of that driving around

1577
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,400
trying to find it because it is you know

1578
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,000
somewhat tucked down um

1579
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,240
back behind there just so that it's it's

1580
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,440
clearly clearly seen and visible um for

1581
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,520
your visitors for your patients and

1582
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,559
their families.

1583
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,000
>> It's something we can look at and

1584
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,440
discuss with it. And again, I just want

1585
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,040
to be clear in terms of the the two on

1586
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:58,880
the first comp component of that, the

1587
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,040
sustainability aspect as we're looking

1588
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,040
at some of the the plantings and the

1589
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,200
native species, the concern would be on

1590
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,839
the trees being too too big in there

1591
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:09,520
because of the

1592
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,480
>> uh because of the utilities that run on

1593
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,240
that north side. Now, right here where

1594
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,000
the bench is set, there is more depth

1595
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,680
and I think it's the parking stall

1596
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,359
length and we can talk with them if

1597
01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:20,640
that's an area that they could do more

1598
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,039
of the shade aspect of it as opposed to

1599
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,440
the decorative part component of it.

1600
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,960
>> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes

1601
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,920
or something that it would help and put

1602
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,559
that barrier

1603
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,960
>> is the you know the white and orange

1604
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,280
pole that you can see in the front of

1605
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,039
the picture but then also on that right

1606
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:39,520
side there is that the marking for the

1607
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,880
fiber optic cable

1608
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,559
>> one of the companies

1609
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:44,079
>> I would assume it doesn't represent all

1610
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:45,839
of the companies and then you can see

1611
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,680
the little square in there represents

1612
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,039
somebody's vault

1613
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:52,000
>> to get in in that space. So is the idea

1614
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,000
being though that the general location

1615
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,920
of those lines is approximately on the

1616
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,160
right side approximately the same as

1617
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,160
what we can see in the in the foreground

1618
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,039
of the image

1619
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:04,400
>> at least for the ones that are marked.

1620
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:04,960
Yes.

1621
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,240
>> Okay.

1622
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,079
>> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually

1623
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:11,200
about 2 feet below below grade which is

1624
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,799
not much when you kind of think about

1625
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:15,440
it.

1626
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:15,920
Okay.

1627
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,520
>> Why don't we bring the petitioner?

1628
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:28,710
you ask questions.

1629
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,440
» How are you?

1630
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,480
>> Good. Hello.

1631
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,559
>> My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional

1632
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:34,880
director for um SSM Health Cardinal

1633
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,880
Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you

1634
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,839
for letting us be here today.

1635
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:41,839
>> Happy to answer any questions.

1636
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:43,520
>> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president

1637
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,440
of operations for the company.

1638
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,880
>> Um yeah, I think the question we had is

1639
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,280
just the layout. it patients will be

1640
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,799
seen in there and

1641
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:52,720
>> is it is it just kind of open like your

1642
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,319
counseling so it is cubes or is it

1643
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:56,799
actually like private facility or how

1644
01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:58,079
what what kind of things you know are

1645
01:04:58,079 --> 01:04:58,799
happening usually

1646
01:04:58,799 --> 01:05:01,680
>> there'll be an open space like a gym for

1647
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,559
more like physical therapy but we we'll

1648
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:07,280
probably have I mean I would say seven

1649
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,839
or eight individual treatment rooms that

1650
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:11,839
are more where speech therapists would

1651
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:14,160
work with individual patient

1652
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,280
>> so this is not necessarily what the

1653
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,680
layout

1654
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,119
>> this is this is what it looks like now

1655
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:20,000
we to do something different with it.

1656
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,559
Um, so where there'd be, you know,

1657
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,079
individual treatment rooms, again,

1658
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:25,520
they're not big, but they're

1659
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,839
>> Yeah,

1660
01:05:27,839 --> 01:05:28,720
and there Yep.

1661
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,079
>> The treatment rooms will be around the

1662
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:31,680
perimeter and the gym space would be in

1663
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:32,160
the middle.

1664
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,720
>> Okay. For actual PT itself and things

1665
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:35,280
like that.

1666
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:35,839
>> Yep.

1667
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:36,319
>> Okay.

1668
01:05:36,319 --> 01:05:39,039
>> Will it be possible to have uh the

1669
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,520
drawing of how how you envision this?

1670
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,280
it. I think it's just very helpful for

1671
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,280
us to actually have the drawing in front

1672
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,000
of us as opposed to each of our brains

1673
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,079
kind of thinking what it might look

1674
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:50,559
like.

1675
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:53,280
>> I have I have we have a clinic that's

1676
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,240
very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza

1677
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,079
and I have that drawing that I can share

1678
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:02,079
with you that we will use that that kind

1679
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:05,039
of design for this space. So I can I

1680
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:06,559
would be would love to share that with

1681
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:07,920
you. bring that for the second reading

1682
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,599
or for Carla M the Trey House has

1683
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,760
probably forward it to us

1684
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,359
>> and this is eventually going to go to

1685
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:16,799
planning and zoning once if this is

1686
01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:19,200
approved and then they'll have the full

1687
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,559
sets of drawings and landscape plans and

1688
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:24,319
things like that. Is that correct?

1689
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,000
>> No.

1690
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,000
>> Oh yeah. I want to see it now.

1691
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,920
>> No, it would be more regarding the use

1692
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,480
and the the operations of the use. The improvements would be internal uh in

1693
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,079
there. So that generally that would go

1694
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:38,559
back to the commission for for review.

1695
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:40,799
Uh there was a code and the the number

1696
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:42,799
of exits and the use is going to dictate

1697
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:44,240
what how that space

1698
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,480
>> how people geointer currently is not

1699
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,200
necessarily our

1700
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:48,720
>> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the

1701
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,839
commissioner was comfortable with it

1702
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:51,599
administratively you know that as long

1703
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:53,839
as they submit some type of landscaping

1704
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:56,079
uh in there and then set the condition

1705
01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:57,520
of the 50% native.

1706
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:57,920
>> Yes.

1707
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,520
>> Uh in there gives us the guidance of

1708
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,520
what they're looking for. Okay, I

1709
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,319
understand.

1710
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:03,839
>> And that just be helpful if you send an

1711
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:05,839
example just so we can, you know,

1712
01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:07,119
visualize it. Appreciate it.

1713
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:09,039
>> Like before the second, you' like

1714
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:10,400
>> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward

1715
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:11,680
it to us and then we'll have it before

1716
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,200
the second and just helps us visual.

1717
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,520
Again, it's your internal not ours. But,

1718
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,760
uh, just that's where I was struggling.

1719
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,640
I'm like, I don't understand.

1720
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,319
>> What is it? You know,

1721
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:22,240
>> hey, I'm like, it's your your your

1722
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,039
business,

1723
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:23,599
>> you know.

1724
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:25,520
>> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having

1725
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,559
that information, you know, I know you have presented this to the PCDC a

1726
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,520
few months ago. Um, and so like the the

1727
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,520
understanding that for a landscaping

1728
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,520
plan has been kind of out there for a

1729
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,359
little bit. So it would be nice to see

1730
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:41,599
some movement towards getting a clearer

1731
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:44,799
sense of what that is as well as what

1732
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,280
your layout internally is before the

1733
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,160
second reading.

1734
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:48,559
>> Okay.

1735
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:50,559
>> So that we're really clear on what what

1736
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:52,079
we're approving. Um,

1737
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:54,960
>> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my

1738
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,960
hesitancy is not anything about this

1739
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,640
business or anything. I'm I think it's a

1740
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,480
good use. I think it's

1741
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,599
>> um great uh to have this here and all of

1742
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,920
it. And I'd like to have a clear sense

1743
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,760
of what we're approving before we

1744
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,559
approve it.

1745
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:10,640
>> Sure.

1746
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,720
>> All right. Thank you very much.

1747
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,520
Appreciate it.

1748
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,640
>> Happy to be here. Thank you.

1749
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,280
>> Did you have

1750
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,880
>> Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew

1751
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,359
Clary with Intel. I work with the

1752
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:27,359
landlord on this building. I just had a quick comment question on the the

1753
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,520
conditions of the landscaping. Um, so

1754
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,839
Carlos mentioned there's some fiber

1755
01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:34,000
optic optic cables that run on the

1756
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,400
inside or just on the outside of the

1757
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,920
sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very

1758
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,679
similar one just on the other side. You

1759
01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:43,279
can't see it, but it's right there in

1760
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:46,319
front of a manhole. Um, would it be

1761
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,159
beneficial at all if we did more

1762
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:50,000
landscaping right where that park bench

1763
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,520
is

1764
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,400
instead of along the the western

1765
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,239
barrier?

1766
01:08:56,239 --> 01:08:58,960
My view is more landscaping anywhere is

1767
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,159
good. Like so as many native or this

1768
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:03,279
council is generally I won't speak for

1769
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:04,319
everyone but it's generally in favor of

1770
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,560
native plants and beautifying and just

1771
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,799
adding sustainability. So um there's

1772
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:10,480
many many ways to attack that. So I

1773
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,400
think um yeah, we have to be sensitive

1774
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,400
to the cabling and not get in the way of

1775
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:16,159
utilities and trees and things like

1776
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:17,359
that. So we're not in any way saying,

1777
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:18,719
"Oh, no, just put trees everywhere."

1778
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:20,880
It's what are the best use of native

1779
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,640
plants sustainability that are

1780
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,640
aesthetically looking that are good

1781
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,120
maintenance, you know, and see and and I

1782
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,159
think it's just seeing what would look

1783
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:28,560
like.

1784
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,600
>> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple

1785
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,960
thoughts on what we were planning on

1786
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,480
doing to this building. So it's it's

1787
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:36,080
been under a new owner since about

1788
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,719
October. Um, the building, I don't know

1789
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:40,319
if you've driven by it frequently, but

1790
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:43,199
it looks very tired on the outside. So,

1791
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,759
the signage is all mismatched. Festive

1792
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,520
is is on that corner. Their signs about

1793
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,880
this big, literally. Um, and so we're

1794
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,319
trying to make the signage consistent.

1795
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,239
We trying to make it prettier, channel

1796
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:56,560
cut lettering if available. Um, repaint

1797
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,000
the exterior of the building. We were

1798
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,640
welcoming the light improvements. Um, we

1799
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,520
were planning on doing that anyway. Uh,

1800
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,239
and so I was trying to get to an

1801
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:07,920
understanding of is it more

1802
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,480
beautifification or is it more safety

1803
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,080
barrier now that you have a better

1804
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,760
understanding of their hours of

1805
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,760
operation or is it a little bit of both?

1806
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,679
Because I could probably do more

1807
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:19,920
landscaping

1808
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,080
near the park bench, more in front of

1809
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,440
the building. I guess what I'm getting

1810
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:26,000
at is I want to create the barrier. I

1811
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,920
want it to be pretty. I don't I I would

1812
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,199
love to not do too much because we're

1813
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:30,400
going to make the building look a lot

1814
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,159
nicer and I would hate for it to be

1815
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:33,520
obuscated

1816
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,080
>> if we have hedges grow too tall. But

1817
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,600
I'll you know

1818
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:38,960
>> that's nice to have not

1819
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,320
>> at least from my perspective with the

1820
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,320
landscaping you know it's it's

1821
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,600
addressing sustainability and aesthetic

1822
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,640
purposes. Okay.

1823
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,880
>> Um but with the sustainability piece you

1824
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,520
know trees provide benefits a multitude

1825
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,520
of benefits. storm water control,

1826
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,440
cooling, um biodiversity,

1827
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:00,560
uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So,

1828
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,120
and trees give you the biggest bang for

1829
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,719
your buck over time.

1830
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:05,440
>> Mhm.

1831
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,360
>> Low low maintenance generally too.

1832
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,520
>> That is and it it is a triple net

1833
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:10,960
building and so increasing the

1834
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,640
maintenance cost does get passed back to

1835
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:13,600
the tenants and

1836
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:14,000
>> Yeah.

1837
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,000
>> So, trying to find that happy medium.

1838
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,080
>> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not

1839
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,280
a dictative. It's just a anywhere we

1840
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,640
can, especially when we're approving new

1841
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,000
things, we're saying let's continue

1842
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,520
sustainability goals. I'm less concerned

1843
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,719
about the safety. It's always a nice

1844
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:28,719
thing, but at least there is also a

1845
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:30,320
ridge up, which is nice. It's a very

1846
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,239
large area versus just a curb.

1847
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:34,640
>> Um, but yeah, I think we just like to

1848
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,080
see us continuing to grow and get more

1849
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,400
sustainable. So, but to your point,

1850
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,520
>> you don't want to block the signage

1851
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,800
you're going to put up either. It's a

1852
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:41,360
balance.

1853
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,800
>> Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same

1854
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,480
page. we'll get you something has a

1855
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,719
really good sense of I think of

1856
01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:47,440
>> what we're

1857
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:48,800
>> we've had these conversations in

1858
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,440
multiple forms. So, um I think he's

1859
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,760
probably well equipped to advise on

1860
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,159
that.

1861
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:55,360
>> He has been you guys have always been

1862
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,800
very helpful too. So,

1863
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,080
>> what what color are you going to paint

1864
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:58,880
the building?

1865
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,159
>> That's a good question. Um

1866
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:03,600
>> and are you going to paint? It looks

1867
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,199
like there's masonry.

1868
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,520
>> No, right now our our thought was just

1869
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,760
the facade. Um but it's it's a it's

1870
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,120
barely a thought. Are you are you

1871
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,400
familiar with what they did with the

1872
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,320
cone elevator building just a little bit

1873
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,440
further down?

1874
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:17,840
>> No.

1875
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,679
>> It's probably it's right next to Stone

1876
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:22,080
Fabricators and PK Construction, but if

1877
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,440
you look at the before and after of what

1878
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:25,679
they did, they painted it white and blue

1879
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:30,400
accents. It looks incredible. So, it's something that would be tasteful

1880
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:36,080
and nice and and not obnoxious, but if you go go look at it sometime this

1881
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,920
week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's

1882
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,760
just there's a light that's it just

1883
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,719
needs to be needs to be redone. So,

1884
01:12:42,719 --> 01:12:44,960
>> if you can kind of describe what that's

1885
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,719
going to be, you know, what color, what what you guys decide before the

1886
01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:50,400
next reading, that would be great, too.

1887
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,480
>> Yeah, we'll try and um put something

1888
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:53,920
together like that along with a

1889
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,360
landscaping plan.

1890
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:56,560
>> I could be wrong. These they're not

1891
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,080
necessarily tied together, right?

1892
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,520
Because we're talking you're talking

1893
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:00,880
about the entire building versus just

1894
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,159
this. So, good point.

1895
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:03,440
>> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the

1896
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:03,840
PNC.

1897
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,440
>> I don't want to stop this or makes

1898
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:05,600
sense.

1899
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,199
>> Let's do both. Yeah,

1900
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:09,679
>> I don't I don't want to encumber that or

1901
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:11,040
but I just wanted to let you know of our

1902
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:11,600
plans anyway.

1903
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,719
>> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I

1904
01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:14,400
appreciate the unification. So,

1905
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,280
>> of course.

1906
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,719
>> Cool. All right.

1907
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:17,280
>> Thank you.

1908
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,400
Other public comments?

1909
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,400
>> No. All right. Anyone online?

1910
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,480
Anything else from the council?

1911
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:27,120
>> No.

1912
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,600
>> All right. We will go ahead and close

1913
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,760
the public hearing then and then there

1914
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,679
will be a second reading of this bill on

1915
01:13:33,679 --> 01:13:35,920
September 8th. Thank you very much for

1916
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,960
coming. Appreciate it.

1917
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,880
>> Thank you.

1918
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,159
>> All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill

1919
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:44,960
3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title

1920
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,239
to be read.

1921
01:13:46,239 --> 01:13:49,280
Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a

1922
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,960
special permit use for New Blueprint

1923
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,120
Partners LLC, owners of the property

1924
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,120
grounds addressed as 1220 North Price

1925
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,760
Road to permit AIM field hockey to

1926
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,840
operate a 6,614

1927
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,000
square foot enclosed recreational use

1928
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,440
within the tenants space addressed as

1929
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,760
1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First

1930
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,960
reading and public hearing.

1931
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,800
>> All right, I will go ahead and open the

1932
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,640
public hearing as well and another great

1933
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:11,520
presentation.

1934
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,640
>> Good evening, mayor. And just for the

1935
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,560
record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the

1936
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,679
director of planning and community

1937
01:14:15,679 --> 01:14:17,679
development for the city of Alvette. And

1938
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:20,719
tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071

1939
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:23,120
which is a special permit request for an

1940
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,440
enclosed recreational use at 1220 North

1941
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,640
Price Road uh suite number four uh in

1942
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,000
that building. That is the same building

1943
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:33,440
where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on

1944
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:35,360
the northern end and underneath Pedell

1945
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,600
and Pickle is actually uh u

1946
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,000
beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm

1947
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,679
sorry I can think of the name. And then

1948
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:45,920
right in the middle you have uh uh

1949
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,520
door.com

1950
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,520
uh that that's located uh that kind of

1951
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,360
wraps. And then this is a little corner

1952
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,800
piece that I'll show you more

1953
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,719
specifically in a second. So if you go

1954
01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,120
to the next slide, it is an old uh an

1955
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,719
older building that was built uh I

1956
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:00,719
believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put

1957
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,040
the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre

1958
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,760
lot with 134,000

1959
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,560
uh square foot uh was considered of

1960
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,640
office manufacturing, warehousing, and

1961
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,719
distilling uh that took place at one

1962
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:14,719
time. Now we have uh recreational use

1963
01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:17,199
with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with

1964
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:19,199
auto beauty specialists and then some

1965
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:21,600
distribution and offices with locked uh

1966
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,640
with uh lock.com

1967
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,159
or door.com uh on the site. the there's

1968
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:30,320
one more piece uh of the building that

1969
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,120
is up for lease uh and it's roughly

1970
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,840
about 6,700 square ft² and that's where

1971
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,360
you see the orange door there at the

1972
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,760
lower right hand corner uh is where

1973
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,159
they're looking to take a a piece of

1974
01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:44,159
that. It's very oddly configured because

1975
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,360
over time as that property was improved

1976
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,600
they they did it in phases and pieces uh

1977
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:50,800
in there and of course it was the old

1978
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,440
Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was

1979
01:15:53,440 --> 01:15:55,520
operating on that site. property grounds

1980
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,000
are zone LI light industrial district

1981
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,080
and enclosed recreational uses and

1982
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,640
outdoor recreational uses are permitted

1983
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,040
uses in the LI district but subject to a

1984
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:06,239
special permit meaning they're not

1985
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:08,239
industrial but they can be compatible

1986
01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:09,920
with a lot of the industrial uses that

1987
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,760
we have there and of course I noted we

1988
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,920
have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh

1989
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,360
just to the left of it you had the

1990
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,400
bridge uh facility um in there and then

1991
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,840
we used to have the old town in tennis

1992
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,840
just down the block uh not too far from

1993
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,600
where SSM was looking at the next slide

1994
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,600
We have a procedure for special permit

1995
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,440
requests. It's a recommend review and

1996
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:31,360
recommendation by the council by the

1997
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,679
commission. Uh they forward that to the

1998
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:35,280
council which holds a public hearing and

1999
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,159
then has a action via an ordinance

2000
01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:39,760
special permit process. We have a

2001
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,120
procedure that's outlined within our

2002
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,120
ordinance that looks about looks at the

2003
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,159
impact to it to limitations. Uh but

2004
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:47,840
always, you know, trying to see how we

2005
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,679
can further our comprehensive plan uh

2006
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:51,760
goals and updates. And I'm sorry about

2007
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,040
the lower left hand that should have

2008
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,440
been LI district uh in there on that

2009
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,360
side. The next slide will kind of talk

2010
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:58,880
about general conditions of a special

2011
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,199
permit. So what do we do is that we make

2012
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,960
sure it's listed in the district that it

2013
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,040
first to go a comprehensive plan that

2014
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,480
the location is suitable to the

2015
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,760
environment and surroundings. Sometimes

2016
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,159
it could be doing topography some

2017
01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:12,719
natural features is is the property flat

2018
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:15,679
is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh

2019
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:17,440
are the improvements complimentary to

2020
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:19,440
the neighboring uses? Did they

2021
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,360
demonstrate that they're mitigating any

2022
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,440
spillover effects that would adversely

2023
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:25,280
impact the addition properties? And then

2024
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,360
of course the city has the authority to

2025
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,600
require whether buffering aesthetic

2026
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,440
enhancements, designate areas for open

2027
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:33,600
space, set limitations on operations,

2028
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,199
implement a schedule and that is you

2029
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:37,760
know requiring things to happen over a

2030
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,840
certain amount of time and consider

2031
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,040
adequacy of public services such as fire

2032
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,120
uh medical police type of services. The

2033
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,640
next slide we'll get into the nuts and

2034
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,719
bolts. This is a corner of the building.

2035
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:51,840
Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's

2036
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,360
a big building. Um, they're taking this

2037
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,560
uh kind of uh front view here where the

2038
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,320
orange door is, but not the whole thing.

2039
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:05,520
It's just the on the left hand side, the first two uh components where you

2040
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,320
see the vertical uh things right there

2041
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,719
and then it kind of L-shapes and goes

2042
01:18:10,719 --> 01:18:12,320
back. So, you actually enter the

2043
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,920
building uh from from that gap between

2044
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,360
where the cursor is and to the far left

2045
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:20,880
uh in there. There's a little cove

2046
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,480
that's a little bit further back. Thank

2047
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,800
you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the

2048
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,560
enter entrance is. And I'll show you a

2049
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,920
little bit more when we get into the

2050
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,480
aerial view. The next slide will kind of

2051
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:33,440
show how that is set up. And again, uh

2052
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:35,120
sorry, I'm using white on the white

2053
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,960
background. Uh, but you can see this

2054
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,199
L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto

2055
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:42,320
the 134,000 foot building. You can see

2056
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,800
that cove area in that cove area on the

2057
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,040
lefth hand side is the layout. There's a

2058
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,719
66

2059
01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:52,480
uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint

2060
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:56,239
for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey

2061
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:58,480
projects facility. Who is your your

2062
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:02,400
petitioner? The next slide.

2063
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,000
What is being proposed? The operations

2064
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,719
are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor

2065
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,199
field hockey practice facility. In this

2066
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:10,960
facility, the operations will include

2067
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,520
training, one-on-one coaching, office

2068
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,120
operations, and then video productions

2069
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,440
that they use for uh uh for promoting

2070
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:19,360
purposes for the uh for the individual

2071
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,760
athletes uh for schools and and things

2072
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,679
of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we

2073
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:27,760
go through the PCDC, they went and they

2074
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,679
reviewed it. Again they have a process

2075
01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:31,920
to review it in accordance with uh our

2076
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,679
ordinance in special permit uses and

2077
01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:35,760
then also our comprehensive plan. Uh

2078
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,360
when you look at economic development

2079
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,600
and investment, it also has its own

2080
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,360
specific goals about environmental

2081
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:42,880
sustainability, investment, crime

2082
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,440
prevention, uh native plantings and

2083
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:47,520
strategic redevelopment. So in their

2084
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,840
review, the commission uh motioned that

2085
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,600
the council consider authorizing the

2086
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,280
special permit through this ordinance.

2087
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,800
However, they also laid out the

2088
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,239
following conditions. One is to limit

2089
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:58,000
the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m.

2090
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,000
to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,

2091
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,120
that was a discussion with the

2092
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,280
petitioner of what their operating hours

2093
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,920
would be. Uh, and there uh to replace

2094
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:07,920
the exterior wallpack lights with uh

2095
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,520
those that are cut off and facing down

2096
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,239
compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree

2097
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,159
health assessment and replacement plan

2098
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,080
with 50% of those being native. There

2099
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,239
was several trees along the perimeter of

2100
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:20,560
the the the site as itself. you know,

2101
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,719
different differentiating it from the

2102
01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:25,280
petitioner here. Uh, and there and some

2103
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:26,800
of them had been cut down and some of

2104
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,360
them uh seemed like they they were not

2105
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,520
as healthy. And then to replace some of

2106
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,840
the deteriorated fencing sections uh

2107
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,120
that were on the uh south side of the

2108
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,400
property uh uh in there the next slide,

2109
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,080
mayor, if I can just enter a couple of

2110
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,480
items into the record. Uh, one is our

2111
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,239
2024 comprehensive plan update,

2112
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:47,600
including our 5-year economic

2113
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,600
development plan, the Olivette municipal

2114
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,199
code and zoning map, the staff

2115
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:52,960
presentation and memorandum presented to

2116
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,400
the planning and community design

2117
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,120
commission dated July 23rd, 2026,

2118
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,640
including the petition and supporting

2119
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,880
plans and documents. The public hearing

2120
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,159
notice, of course, this is a public

2121
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:04,080
hearing. We're required to post this in

2122
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,320
the county and St. Louis County. It was

2123
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,480
published on August 10th, 2026. And then

2124
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:09,840
you have a list of the properties that

2125
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,400
were identified or notified uh regarding

2126
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,800
that twice. Uh they get a postcard

2127
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:16,400
before it goes to the commission and

2128
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,239
then they also get a public hearing

2129
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,400
notice uh prior to our meeting here at

2130
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,320
council and then the presentation before

2131
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,199
council dated August 25th, 2026. I do

2132
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:27,199
have representatives here in attendance,

2133
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:29,280
but I'd like be glad to answer uh

2134
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:30,560
specific questions about the building

2135
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,320
and the operations.

2136
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,920
>> I have questions mostly for the

2137
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,760
petitioner. So before we bring them up,

2138
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,080
anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.

2139
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,679
>> Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took

2140
01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:41,679
lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to

2141
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,440
see the parking lot when they're when

2142
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,199
it's gets a little bit busier.

2143
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:47,120
>> It does it just want to make sure that

2144
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,880
there are enough spots for all the

2145
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,840
tenants if this goes through. Especially

2146
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,280
if you know there's a team or a couple

2147
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,440
of teams practicing, everyone drives in

2148
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:57,120
their own cars.

2149
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,040
>> End up with an extra with an extra 30

2150
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,239
cars. [snorts]

2151
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:02,400
>> Would that be enough space? And if not,

2152
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,639
where would the overflow be?

2153
01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:07,120
>> Well, good question. Uh if you we can go

2154
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,199
back to the aerial. I think it's about

2155
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:14,629
uh three on on this site. Well, one

2156
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:17,920
uh on this site. So you can see um

2157
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,880
there's that center parking uh in in

2158
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,679
that area primarily used by by lock uh

2159
01:22:23,679 --> 01:22:26,000
door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and

2160
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,080
pickle uses part of that and then they

2161
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,639
uh expanded their have the uh the

2162
01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:33,199
parking facility there on the lower left

2163
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:37,760
corner uh in there. and you see that aisle in there. Uh they've always

2164
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,199
wanted to expand in that green space,

2165
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:41,120
but then that would trigger MSD review

2166
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,719
and and storm water. So, there's always

2167
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:44,800
that caveat that we have available

2168
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,239
there. But then there's some additional

2169
01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:48,560
parking on the far right end of the

2170
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,719
building uh in there. It's kind of

2171
01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:52,400
separate and independent, but they also

2172
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,080
operate this. Yes.

2173
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,080
>> To the f Okay,

2174
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,639
>> that that area where the cursor is at.

2175
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:00,560
>> Would would that be another entrance or

2176
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,760
would people have to walk around?

2177
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:06,000
>> They would have to walk around. They're not in the way the in the

2178
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,679
original building everything was all

2179
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:09,679
within within [snorts] reach. Now that

2180
01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:11,120
things have been separated, yes, the

2181
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,440
parking is all kind of uh disassociated

2182
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,400
with the with the spaces.

2183
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,000
>> But it's always a good question. I mean,

2184
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,960
I always hear, you know, that's a lot of

2185
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,639
parking. You know, do do they really

2186
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:24,480
need all that surface area? And you try

2187
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:25,840
to balance that. Do they really have

2188
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,400
enough parking uh in there? You know,

2189
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,719
from a planning perspective, there are

2190
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:32,639
in our code, there are some some

2191
01:23:32,639 --> 01:23:35,120
minimums. We go by minimums uh in there

2192
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,719
that they have to have a minimum amount

2193
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:39,040
based on the type of activity that takes

2194
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,800
place. For recreational uses, it's based

2195
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,560
on square footage. There's a simple

2196
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,719
calculation that we use to calculate

2197
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:47,360
that. For the office, it's based on on a

2198
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,320
similar weight. Uh but then they're in a

2199
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,080
match. And then our code allows us to

2200
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,239
provide some overlap. So if this use

2201
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:56,239
needs this much parking, this use need

2202
01:23:56,239 --> 01:23:57,920
needs this much parking, this use needs

2203
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,760
this much parking, you can have some

2204
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,760
overlap that that some may come in at

2205
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,760
night, some may come in during the day

2206
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,280
um in there. So it allows for that

2207
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,920
process in there to help try to balance

2208
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,120
it uh in there. But again, it's, you

2209
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,840
know, from a professional view, it's

2210
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,639
like I think if if people are unhappy with

2211
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:20,000
the parking, they're going to go

2212
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,679
somewhere else to find a better facility

2213
01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:23,040
that can accommodate them. And it

2214
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,960
impacts the user in there. We want to

2215
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,440
keep these uses viable. We want to keep

2216
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:29,920
our residents and and and the region

2217
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,719
coming to our our our location uh in

2218
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:34,239
there, but this is a fine balance as

2219
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:36,000
opposed to having over parking. We had

2220
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,400
the conversation when uh Murthy Health

2221
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,560
Systems was looking at the pharmacy and

2222
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,560
we were asking can we get rid of parking

2223
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,080
spaces uh back there and it's tough

2224
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,760
>> for this area specifically. I just want

2225
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:48,880
to make sure people are not parking

2226
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,480
along the road or something like that.

2227
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,719
So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if

2228
01:24:52,719 --> 01:24:55,840
we have that lot in the back.

2229
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,360
>> But a good question. I mean it's it's

2230
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,120
one of the things we struggle with and

2231
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,960
finding that right mix, right balance.

2232
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:01,760
Mhm.

2233
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,560
>> Um, related to parking, I'm interested

2234
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,480
in kind of hearing your perspective on

2235
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:08,239
the traffic flow on this lot. Just

2236
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,960
recognizing that it has kind of an

2237
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,560
unusual

2238
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,920
setup with the two entrances. Um, you

2239
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,320
know, it's not a cir circle drive, but

2240
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,800
you know, kind of coming in from both

2241
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,520
sides. And then the extended part that

2242
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,159
I'm assuming when this was more serving

2243
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:30,080
an industrial purpose um was set up for

2244
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:34,800
truck loading and unloading. Um and I

2245
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,120
guess I'm just I'm curious in this

2246
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,159
parcel recognizing how the uses have

2247
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:44,000
shifted um pretty significantly. Um,

2248
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,360
other than Door, perhaps Door still uses

2249
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,360
the larger trucks for uh deliveries and

2250
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,040
loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd

2251
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,639
be curious to know um if this current

2252
01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:00,000
traffic configuration

2253
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,760
is

2254
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,960
the best um

2255
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,840
use of that space

2256
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,360
um and or the safest use recognizing

2257
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,280
that you know for field hockey you'll

2258
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,219
have parents driving but you my guess

2259
01:26:15,219 --> 01:26:16,960
[clears throat] is potentially some of

2260
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,880
the clients will be uh older

2261
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,800
kids young adults who are driving

2262
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,719
themselves and aren't necessarily known

2263
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:28,560
for being the best drivers. Um, and

2264
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,920
trying to trying to make that that

2265
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,320
particular area work in a way that um

2266
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,280
it seems a little the setup as it is now

2267
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,360
is a little odd for the uses that are

2268
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,159
being

2269
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:43,520
>> No, it's a very good question.

2270
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,520
>> Those buildings

2271
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:49,440
>> in there a good question uh just on the

2272
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:55,440
timing on on here. So, and and this is why it's a special permit. I

2273
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:58,000
mean, we have seen our industrial parks.

2274
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,480
There's not much industrial going on in

2275
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:04,000
those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen

2276
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,040
the the the the road and all that. This

2277
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,280
used to be all private. So, those dock

2278
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,600
doors all worked uh in there because

2279
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,400
they were not under our jurisdiction uh

2280
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,239
and in place. Now, we've taken up those

2281
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:18,560
spaces in there. And these buildings

2282
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,199
still are industrial buildings trying to

2283
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:24,800
be retrofitted for uses that that were

2284
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,679
or you know that that were not designed

2285
01:27:27,679 --> 01:27:29,840
or or built. And that's why we go

2286
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,840
through these processes. You know, this

2287
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,199
is the third time that I've been here

2288
01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:35,040
just for this building. You know, we did

2289
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,480
that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it

2290
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:40,159
for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath

2291
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:41,760
uh in there and then now we're doing it

2292
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,760
for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there.

2293
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,360
You know, I couldn't give you a straight

2294
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,600
answer of is this, you know,

2295
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,040
professionally, is this the ideal

2296
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,560
parking configuration? No. No, it's not.

2297
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,159
This is what what I have to work with

2298
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:58,880
and what how it's put in place. uh

2299
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,600
things that would I would would be ideal

2300
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,199
for that parking is to make it more

2301
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:07,760
uniform and and uh

2302
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,520
you know uh polygono or or so but then

2303
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,360
it triggers things because then you get

2304
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,199
rid of that green space and then MSD

2305
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:16,719
gets involved in all that and then the

2306
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:18,639
cost of trying to retrofit these

2307
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:21,760
buildings becomes more difficult um uh

2308
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,159
in there. I think it's something we have

2309
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:28,320
to kind of look over time uh in there.

2310
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,000
We I'm not aware that that there's been

2311
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,880
any incidents uh in the spaces, but we

2312
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,360
only have three of the four tenants in there right now. Uh with uh auto

2313
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,280
beauty, that's solely storage and those

2314
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,880
are moved from just kind of back and

2315
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,400
forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle,

2316
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,400
you know, I know they have their their operation their times kind

2317
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,400
of fluctuate over time and it's just

2318
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:51,760
going to be kind of looking at how that

2319
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,760
mixture works between the two. The only

2320
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,000
constant is Door.com. We know who's

2321
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,760
there during during the regular hours

2322
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,000
and then when when they leave uh in

2323
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,440
there, it could be something that we

2324
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:02,719
could look at, you know, how are the

2325
01:29:02,719 --> 01:29:04,719
hours of operating working with with

2326
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:08,000
that over time. uh or you know talk

2327
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,639
about how do we get more connectivity uh

2328
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:12,800
with some of the other spots in there

2329
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:14,880
depends on when I go out there you know

2330
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,920
it's full and you can see uh to the left

2331
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,400
on on the on the slide you know all that

2332
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,159
parking right there is bridge uh in

2333
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:26,000
there and it was like when we were going

2334
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,600
through that we didn't anticipate you

2335
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,560
know that volume um in that place but

2336
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,000
we've been fortunate that the mix of

2337
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,920
that building has been you know kind of

2338
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,000
balances pretty well you don't go there

2339
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,040
during the bridge time, you're going to

2340
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,719
get pretty good parking. If it's during

2341
01:29:38,719 --> 01:29:40,320
bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're

2342
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:41,920
kind of moving around trying to find a

2343
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,600
space in there, but then they have a

2344
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,920
similar pattern where the parking wraps

2345
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,280
around the building and then there's a

2346
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,440
whole another field on the north side uh

2347
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:52,000
of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough

2348
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,480
spots. It certainly does meet our code.

2349
01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:58,480
Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.

2350
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,480
It it isn't. But I think we have to see

2351
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:02,239
how we, you know, how these buildings

2352
01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:04,480
kind of transition and how this parking

2353
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:07,440
kind of works over time.

2354
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,679
>> What the current hours for paddle and

2355
01:30:09,679 --> 01:30:12,000
pickle? Do you happen to know?

2356
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,560
>> Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have

2357
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:19,510
an early start like 6:00 a.m.

2358
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,679
» And paddle pickles where on here with

2359
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:22,800
the curses are

2360
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,199
>> Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there.

2361
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:26,480
>> Okay. Thank you.

2362
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,239
>> And they do actually use a parking lot.

2363
01:30:28,239 --> 01:30:31,280
That's where that blue truck, blue roof

2364
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:32,239
>> right in that area.

2365
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:34,320
>> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking

2366
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:35,280
too. Like

2367
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,520
>> an old old picture then.

2368
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,520
>> It's I don't know that it's marked right

2369
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,280
now, but people just park there in a row

2370
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,679
and it's pretty organized.

2371
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:44,239
>> Oh, okay.

2372
01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:46,639
>> I've seen it many times.

2373
01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:48,880
>> How crowded is it when you're if you've

2374
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,560
been there?

2375
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,159
>> I think I mean from what I've seen, they

2376
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:54,719
only take up that wider part of the

2377
01:30:54,719 --> 01:30:56,639
parking. They don't even end up much on

2378
01:30:56,639 --> 01:30:58,000
the pavement.

2379
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:58,800
So,

2380
01:30:58,800 --> 01:30:59,199
>> okay.

2381
01:30:59,199 --> 01:31:01,440
>> So, it sounds like it there should be

2382
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:02,159
room.

2383
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:03,840
>> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other

2384
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,600
parking lot on the far right, I mean,

2385
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,639
that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I

2386
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:11,280
imagine it's also by hour times things

2387
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:11,920
make difference

2388
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,000
>> because I love this reuse.

2389
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,920
>> Yeah. It's exciting

2390
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,159
>> to these types of

2391
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:19,840
>> and it draws people. They want to get

2392
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,120
dinner afterwards. They want to do

2393
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:22,239
things like that. It's great

2394
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:24,960
>> and it's unique to the community, right?

2395
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,520
>> It's it's a great

2396
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:28,960
bring up the petitioner. So I have just

2397
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,400
random questions. I'm curious more

2398
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:37,270
curiosity questions. So like

2399
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,520
» evening. Thank you guys so much for your

2400
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,960
time with this and consideration. I'm

2401
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,480
Lauren Kornweight, the founder and

2402
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:44,320
director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been

2403
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,719
at this for 20 years and have a vision

2404
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:49,440
for for the next step. So

2405
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:51,040
>> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a

2406
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,800
representative for Lauren and the real

2407
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:53,840
estate.

2408
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,320
>> Great. Um I was curious two things.

2409
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,480
hours only because again I feel like it

2410
01:31:58,480 --> 01:31:59,280
might be different thinking about my

2411
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:00,800
son's soccer and the private things like

2412
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,560
they easily do things till 10 o'clock at

2413
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,480
night and so it's you're comfortable

2414
01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:05,840
with the hours because it is light

2415
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,360
industrial so we have a little bit of

2416
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:08,159
give so

2417
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:10,080
>> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of

2418
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,400
um the you know during the day is going

2419
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,280
to be just office use for we just have

2420
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,840
four of us in there so it's not like a

2421
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,040
huge you know for parking or whatever um

2422
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,120
and then I am comfortable with the hours

2423
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:24,480
it's going to be a lot of small group

2424
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:27,440
and private training and not like loads

2425
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:29,199
of teams coming in that space.

2426
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:29,840
>> Okay,

2427
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,600
>> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm

2428
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,639
surprised too like your choice field

2429
01:32:34,639 --> 01:32:36,719
hockey, but you guys don't ever open it

2430
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:38,400
up to anything else like football or

2431
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,159
other, you know, trainings. You just it

2432
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:41,280
only dedicates to field.

2433
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,719
>> I mean, this is again we've been doing

2434
01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:44,800
this 20 years and we just focused on

2435
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:45,840
field hockey, but

2436
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,600
>> it's a win. Okay,

2437
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,239
>> great.

2438
01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:51,520
>> How many uh players are training at any

2439
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,040
one time? Oh, thank you.

2440
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,040
>> We'll we'll be looking at doing small

2441
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,639
group. Well, some will be literally

2442
01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:58,639
private one-on-one, but we'll be looking

2443
01:32:58,639 --> 01:33:02,000
at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.

2444
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,840
>> Yeah, that's right.

2445
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,480
>> So, this is kind of a new concept, so

2446
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:08,080
it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence

2447
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,719
kind of gone out on a limb here because

2448
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:12,480
all these indoor practice facility,

2449
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:14,239
anyone who uses turf, they're all

2450
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,159
fighting over each other for Veta in the

2451
01:33:16,159 --> 01:33:17,840
different turf

2452
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,679
>> areas. So, Lauren's still going to

2453
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:21,760
utilize those spaces. This will be a

2454
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,480
complimentary facility for her where she

2455
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:26,080
can do smaller group training

2456
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,840
one-on-one. She does a lot of

2457
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,600
recruitment videos for college and

2458
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,360
things like that. So, it'll have like a

2459
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,120
video production room.

2460
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,320
>> Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think

2461
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,159
she knows what she's gone through a

2462
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:40,800
heavy business plan. So, I think it's

2463
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,440
going to be a great facility. And

2464
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,960
honestly, the um the previous meeting we

2465
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,040
went to, they were like, "We think

2466
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,320
you're going to outgrow this facility

2467
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:51,920
and need to go get a bigger facility."

2468
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:53,840
So, it's going to it's a new concept in

2469
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:55,440
the indoor space. There's no one else

2470
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,520
doing it. We're excited about it. We're

2471
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,199
happy to be in Alvette. This is a great

2472
01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:01,840
location. The property is well lit and

2473
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,239
it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the

2474
01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:05,760
all the other businesses are in the

2475
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,280
afternoons, they'll be winding down on

2476
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:08,719
their business where she'll be picking

2477
01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:11,120
up from when kids get out of school

2478
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,199
until the evening hours. So I think it's

2479
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:15,520
complimentary and then a lot of the

2480
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,000
parents when they drop their kids off

2481
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:19,600
they can go support the other businesses

2482
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,280
in the community or go over to pet pedal

2483
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,440
and pickle and make reservations and so

2484
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:25,280
maybe that helps from the parking

2485
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:26,800
standoint as well.

2486
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,880
>> Could I address just your question

2487
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,320
earlier also um we serve like

2488
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,520
three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of

2489
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,199
our clients are are parent drivers. Um,

2490
01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:41,199
we do have some, you know, the 16, 17,

2491
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:43,440
18 year olds and I do understand your

2492
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,280
question with that, but it's that's

2493
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,360
going to be a small percentage.

2494
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,199
>> I do imagine you will do quite well

2495
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:50,560
because I can imagine a lot of people

2496
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:51,920
that's why I asked about other sports

2497
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,600
because the recruitment as my son's

2498
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:54,480
going through that kind of thing right

2499
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:57,040
now. It's um a space where you could do

2500
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,480
that privately and get that and have

2501
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,880
video. I question do you plan maybe you

2502
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,639
don't because the size isn't like food.

2503
01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:04,800
You're not selling food. We're not No,

2504
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,719
we don't have like a grillin bar or

2505
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:08,159
anything like that. think like a veta or

2506
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:09,600
something like that. Okay.

2507
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,280
>> You don't want any part of that.

2508
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:12,880
>> I don't want to venture into that.

2509
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,560
>> I understand. I just wanted to check.

2510
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,480
So,

2511
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:17,600
>> all right.

2512
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,600
>> Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use.

2513
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,960
I love to see the building repurposed um

2514
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,520
and and especially providing something

2515
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,159
that's unique um and sounds like a

2516
01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:32,080
really great market to address. Um,

2517
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,199
and yeah, my my concerns really are more

2518
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:38,400
about the building and the kind of weird

2519
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,960
driving situation that exists. I don't

2520
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:42,800
have any concerns about the business

2521
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,960
other than the potential that you will

2522
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,400
be more successful and uh outgrow this

2523
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,639
space too quickly.

2524
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:53,440
So, we are in a little bit of a So, when

2525
01:35:53,440 --> 01:35:56,960
we negotiated this deal on the building,

2526
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,639
the there was a new buyer coming in for

2527
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:00,800
the building, which is the Bluepoint or

2528
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,080
whatever LLC that's on the agenda for

2529
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,639
this evening. It is kind of an emergency

2530
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:08,960
situation. and Lauren got busy in the

2531
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,960
spring and we burned some time and then

2532
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,199
we realized when we went to permits that

2533
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:15,120
we figured pedal and pickle and it

2534
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,400
wasn't talked about with the previous

2535
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,960
lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit

2536
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,719
within the light industrial without a

2537
01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:22,960
special use permit. So now we're in a

2538
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:24,639
situation where construction's been

2539
01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:26,239
delayed. So really what we're trying to

2540
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:29,040
achieve is to get this thing off center

2541
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,000
because it's she's a small business and

2542
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,760
she's got time burning on at least right

2543
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,280
now and we're confident we can get

2544
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,360
through this with you guys and make the

2545
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,679
compromises needed to make sure everyone

2546
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:42,159
in the city is happy with the use. But

2547
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:44,639
it's kind of like we need I think what

2548
01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:46,400
Carlos suggested is that we need to have

2549
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,159
it as an emergency so we can get a first

2550
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:50,159
and second reading. So whatever

2551
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:51,920
accommodations

2552
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,159
Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see

2553
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:59,199
if we can move this forward this evening

2554
01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:01,679
if you guys would be open to that.

2555
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:03,920
>> Don't know from policy how that works in

2556
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,600
terms of because because we have to post

2557
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:06,480
agendas

2558
01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,320
>> start the review of the uh the permit

2559
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,639
plans with them uh and then that's

2560
01:37:10,639 --> 01:37:12,000
something we can offer

2561
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,040
>> to move I'm sorry

2562
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,280
>> to kind of facilitate and start the the

2563
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,520
permit review the the building permit

2564
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,719
plans before the council authorizes. So,

2565
01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:22,320
it's a risk we take, but it's something.

2566
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:23,920
>> Yeah. And I think if it sounds like

2567
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,119
they're willing to work, so I think that

2568
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:26,960
makes sense to start early. We can't

2569
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,880
authorize until the second reading, but

2570
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,639
I think that gets you forward versus

2571
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:32,159
waiting to the second reading then to do

2572
01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:34,080
that, right? So, it keeps us on track,

2573
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:35,440
if that makes sense. So,

2574
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:37,520
>> what is the policy? Can we do a first

2575
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,360
and second reading on one day?

2576
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,360
>> I don't know how we can do that.

2577
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,679
>> Technically, you can. Um, it was not

2578
01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:45,520
advertised on the agenda that you were

2579
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,239
going to vote on it this evening. So, um

2580
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:50,560
that would have been useful, but uh

2581
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,679
technically you could you need to vote

2582
01:37:53,679 --> 01:37:55,440
as a council. Someone needs to make a

2583
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:58,239
motion to hold the second reading this

2584
01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:00,080
evening and then you need to vote on

2585
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,920
that motion and then you would be um you

2586
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:10,229
could then vote um on the

2587
01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:11,760
» vote.

2588
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,159
Correct.

2589
01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:15,600
And I guess though, Carlos, does it

2590
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:16,800
speed us up that much? Because the

2591
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:17,920
plans, how long is it going to take you

2592
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,760
guys to work through that?

2593
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,320
>> Takes about right now we're about 15

2594
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,239
days out for review comments.

2595
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:25,840
>> Okay. So, if you start working with them

2596
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,760
immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days

2597
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,560
anyway. And so, to me,

2598
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:31,840
>> it's going to be two weeks before we

2599
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,040
vote on this again, right?

2600
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,560
>> And so, I I don't think it's going to

2601
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,239
change anything anyway. And I'd rather

2602
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:38,159
if we didn't need to um if it was going

2603
01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:39,840
to dash but so I think starting as soon

2604
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,360
as we can on just review to help them

2605
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:42,639
out would be great if

2606
01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:43,920
>> it's something we can do without you

2607
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,119
with or without the

2608
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,840
>> okay before the only concern is in it

2609
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,440
was my understanding in the past it it

2610
01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:51,679
sets a precedent and then they're always

2611
01:38:51,679 --> 01:38:53,760
asking us the staff you know about

2612
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,960
>> yeah I think I think it's understood and

2613
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:01,199
so we need to be careful on that and not uh so recognizing that there's a

2614
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:02,639
need to burn and we really excited about

2615
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:04,639
the reuse of the building so you know

2616
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:06,800
open to that. But, uh, it's a good call

2617
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,960
out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.

2618
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:12,239
>> I would be comfortable if we entertained

2619
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:14,239
a second rating tonight. Does how does

2620
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:16,639
anybody else feel?

2621
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:22,880
>> I mean, if it if it's going to expedite helping them

2622
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,639
move forward faster, I'm okay with it.

2623
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:25,679
But if it's not going to make any

2624
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:27,119
difference, stick to what we're doing

2625
01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:27,600
now.

2626
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,280
>> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I

2627
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,520
wouldn't be totally objecting to it

2628
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,280
except it does set precedent for us,

2629
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,360
too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's

2630
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,040
going to accelerate at this point in the

2631
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:37,520
period.

2632
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:38,960
>> And I say leave everything the way it

2633
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,760
is, but it might help Carlos so he

2634
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:42,719
doesn't get

2635
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,639
>> Well, it's one of these where one way or

2636
01:39:44,639 --> 01:39:46,320
the other we're establishing a tricky

2637
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:46,880
precedent.

2638
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,960
>> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with

2639
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,920
Carlos working with the petitioner on

2640
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,199
the building permit side of things than

2641
01:39:57,199 --> 01:39:59,280
making a decision in the middle of a

2642
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,239
council meeting to adjust our processes.

2643
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:05,920
Um, that we we were not prepped for

2644
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,920
ahead of time to do something like that.

2645
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,239
And I think adjusting something like

2646
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:12,639
that in in a council meeting at itself,

2647
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:17,040
I I don't feel comfortable with that.

2648
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,639
Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos

2649
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:20,639
the question for you is or Mr. is it any

2650
01:40:20,639 --> 01:40:22,880
concerns from you moving forward on your

2651
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:24,239
side sooner than later?

2652
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,000
>> No, I mean they started off with permit

2653
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,639
plans. So I think they're they're they

2654
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:31,360
should have the contractor is here uh in

2655
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:32,560
>> I don't want to put you guys in a bind

2656
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,239
either if that's something that you guys

2657
01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:36,159
can't staff timing or anything like that

2658
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:37,440
either. So that would

2659
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:38,639
>> correct but I think we can coordinate

2660
01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:40,560
and get that that okay you know that

2661
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:41,760
first round going

2662
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:42,960
>> if you guys are good we'll have move

2663
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,000
forward that way. I think it'll end

2664
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:45,520
about the same time either way and I I

2665
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,600
would agree with Chairman Bam on that.

2666
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,040
>> So, realistically, when would the second

2667
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,400
reading be?

2668
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:51,119
>> ETH.

2669
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:53,280
Okay. Okay. Okay.

2670
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:54,960
>> And signage for the building. I don't

2671
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,679
know if we covered that. I apologize.

2672
01:40:57,679 --> 01:40:59,920
>> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I

2673
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:01,760
have talked about it. It would go if you

2674
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,840
go forward a couple, you can see the

2675
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:08,310
orange door.

2676
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,560
» Oh, wrong way.

2677
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:11,679
We could put a sign there to

2678
01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:14,639
>> Yeah, you could put a big arrow.

2679
01:41:14,639 --> 01:41:17,280
>> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it

2680
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,600
hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM

2681
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,400
above that loading door

2682
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,239
um on that orange panel right there.

2683
01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:26,159
>> But the loading door is not you're not

2684
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:28,560
using that door as an entrance.

2685
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:29,119
>> No.

2686
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:29,679
>> Okay.

2687
01:41:29,679 --> 01:41:32,480
>> And just to so you guys understand, this

2688
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,639
space only accounts for about 2% of the

2689
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:38,960
entire building. And um the the way this

2690
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,040
space lays out, the entry will be on the

2691
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,560
other side of that orange door, but

2692
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,080
directly on the other side of the space.

2693
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:45,920
So that'll be the main entry point.

2694
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,280
You're not going to be entering from the

2695
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,920
price side. But the way it's laid out

2696
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,159
and the previous owner, they were

2697
01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:54,159
basically talking about mothballing that

2698
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:55,679
space because it's laid out so

2699
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:58,400
inefficiently for really any other use

2700
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:02,239
than recreational or special use. So

2701
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:04,080
just because it's hard to get into stuff

2702
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:05,679
on the right side of this drawing which

2703
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:08,480
used to be a rail loaded is really tired

2704
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:11,280
space that you know frankly Lauren's

2705
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,040
spending a lot of money that she's

2706
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,280
investing into the space herself rather

2707
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:16,880
than landlord and the other space that

2708
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,119
Lord loading dock comes up and it makes

2709
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:21,920
a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is

2710
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,880
really it sat for a long time where they

2711
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,320
almost said let's just forget about

2712
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,400
leasing it and move on. So, all reason

2713
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:29,520
exciting to reuse it.

2714
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:30,400
>> Yeah.

2715
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,560
>> Wish you the best of luck. So,

2716
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,040
>> we'll move forward then. Um, any other

2717
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:37,280
questions from council?

2718
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,040
>> Uh, does anyone in the public have

2719
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,639
questions to ask?

2720
01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:42,639
>> I just had one quick one.

2721
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:45,040
>> Come on up.

2722
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,440
>> So, I did represent the landlord when we

2723
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:50,960
signed this lease. Um,

2724
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,679
is there is there not have is there not

2725
01:42:53,679 --> 01:42:56,239
more of a or less of a pre precedent to

2726
01:42:56,239 --> 01:42:58,880
have a second reading at the council

2727
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,080
meeting, first reading and second

2728
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,239
reading, and to do the drawings early?

2729
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:03,679
>> Do you guys normally have you never done

2730
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:04,239
the second reading?

2731
01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:06,080
>> It's not that we've never done it. My my

2732
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,159
concern is that everything we do

2733
01:43:08,159 --> 01:43:09,520
generally we need to give the notice to

2734
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,199
the public so they expect what what

2735
01:43:11,199 --> 01:43:12,159
we're voting on, what we're talking

2736
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:13,199
about, which is why we can't bring up

2737
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:15,360
random topics and discuss them and just

2738
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,639
forget at a given time. Um, and so it

2739
01:43:18,639 --> 01:43:20,239
sets that precedent that we could do

2740
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:21,760
something and then people get upset that

2741
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:22,960
like you did something without letting

2742
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,400
us know. I would have come and spoken. I

2743
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:25,520
would have objected. I would have

2744
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:26,480
brought something up.

2745
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:28,719
>> Whereas this, while we usually staff

2746
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:30,159
would not usually work with you until

2747
01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:32,159
it's put forward,

2748
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:33,600
>> we recognized this is going to go

2749
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,119
forward. So staff working with you now,

2750
01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:37,280
I think puts us in the exact same spot

2751
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:38,480
at the end of the day. So

2752
01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:39,040
>> Gotcha.

2753
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:39,679
>> Yeah.

2754
01:43:39,679 --> 01:43:41,280
When we when we signed the lease,

2755
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,600
we figured um and I actually remembered

2756
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,040
it at the end, but when we did the

2757
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,119
paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had

2758
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:49,040
a special use permit athletic for the

2759
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:50,960
whole building and it was specific to

2760
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:53,119
their use. So,

2761
01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:54,400
>> I want them to get going as soon as

2762
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:54,800
possible.

2763
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,400
>> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this

2764
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,920
will end up that's why our question of

2765
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,119
if it's going to be 15 days, if it's

2766
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:00,400
going to take that long anyway, we'll

2767
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,080
approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's

2768
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,480
done. We're at the same spot. If that

2769
01:44:04,480 --> 01:44:05,760
was not the case, I'd be much more

2770
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,840
willing to entertain at this point. So,

2771
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:09,360
>> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank

2772
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:10,880
you. Thank you.

2773
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,719
>> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?

2774
01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:14,639
>> You know, the only drawback is that I've

2775
01:44:14,639 --> 01:44:17,119
been frequenting Paris Baguette ever

2776
01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:19,199
since discovering this place. So,

2777
01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:21,360
>> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You

2778
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:23,600
know, so

2779
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,239
>> thank you.

2780
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:26,880
All right. Anyone online?

2781
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,119
Questions, comments? All right. I will

2782
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:31,440
close the public hearing.

2783
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:32,719
All right. And then we'll have it the

2784
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:34,080
second reading on the 8th. Thank you

2785
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:34,960
very much.

2786
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,560
>> Thank you.

2787
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,760
>> Okay. Move on to item 16.

2788
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:41,920
Uh, surface transportation we will be

2789
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,080
blocked. I will have you read it. How

2790
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,159
about that?

2791
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:47,440
>> Or do I?

2792
01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:48,960
>> Yes, sir.

2793
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:50,960
>> Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I

2794
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,520
apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill

2795
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,360
3072. If we can have the title right,

2796
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:56,000
please.

2797
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,960
>> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section

2798
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,639
405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and

2799
01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:04,080
additional requirements being part of

2800
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,440
the subdivision code of the city of

2801
01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:08,320
Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision

2802
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,239
regulations of title 4, land use of the

2803
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:12,159
Alvet municipal code to allow for both

2804
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:13,760
residential and non-residential

2805
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,679
condominium plats and additional

2806
01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:17,199
requirements. First reading and public

2807
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:18,320
hearing.

2808
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,679
>> All right, we'll open the public hearing

2809
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:22,800
on bill 3072 and presentation, please.

2810
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,400
>> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my

2811
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,080
name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director

2812
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:27,360
of planning and community development

2813
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,440
with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is

2814
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:31,679
a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the

2815
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,520
site plan and illustrations all the

2816
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,360
pretty pictures uh and there we're

2817
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,679
looking to amend our subdivision code

2818
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:39,199
specifically the section referring to

2819
01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:40,880
condominiums plats and additional

2820
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,639
requirements. The next slide will show

2821
01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:44,960
the the specific section and the changes

2822
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,880
in that is to remove the references to

2823
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,280
multif family or anything residential.

2824
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,199
Uh what this does it gets us more

2825
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:53,360
consistent with the condominium act. You

2826
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,840
see there reference of chapter 448 the

2827
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,000
revised statutes of Missouri. They kind

2828
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,639
of say that we we really can't hold a uh

2829
01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:02,880
a distinction in terms of condominiums

2830
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:04,080
whether they're residential or

2831
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:05,840
non-residential that they can be applied

2832
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,880
to buildings a building replace or the

2833
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,280
sale of the building uh and they're I'm

2834
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,560
hoping I address that correctly with and

2835
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:16,159
there and we're just getting our code

2836
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:17,360
more consistent with the state.

2837
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,600
>> This is what most other cities in

2838
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:20,719
>> that is correct.

2839
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:21,520
>> Correct. Okay.

2840
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,760
>> Does that also apply to like industrial

2841
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,080
or office space as well? Yeah.

2842
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,679
>> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium

2843
01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:30,719
doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you

2844
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:34,870
learn something new every day.

2845
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,960
» Is there any uh with the word

2846
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,280
subdivision in there, does that does

2847
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,440
that word imply one thing or another?

2848
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:42,880
I'm not sure what a you know, a

2849
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:44,560
condominium as a building versus a

2850
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,000
condominium subdivision.

2851
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:49,679
>> Condominium is a form of subdivision.

2852
01:46:49,679 --> 01:46:50,960
And so I think when you go through

2853
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:53,280
chapter 405 and go through the the

2854
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:57,600
definition sections that's where that term subdivision is refer

2855
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,000
representing both a process and then a

2856
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,239
product of that process too. I think

2857
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:04,719
that's what where the that you're trying

2858
01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:05,440
to address

2859
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:07,360
>> feels similar the word dwelling but you

2860
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:09,040
again I don't care I trust if this is

2861
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:09,679
what this

2862
01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:11,520
>> the code's going towards and it gets us

2863
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,239
clear of that that makes sense.

2864
01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:17,520
>> All right questions from the council.

2865
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,360
Anyone in the public online would like

2866
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:20,960
to speak to this?

2867
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,800
>> I think there are some items that record

2868
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,040
through our 2024 comprehensive plan

2869
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,040
update, the municipal code and zoning

2870
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,199
map uh the staff presentation and

2871
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:33,199
memorandum to the plan commission dated

2872
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:36,080
July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation

2873
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,480
and and that is part of your link uh in

2874
01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:40,880
your staff memo, uh there are references

2875
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,880
to what other communities had uh in

2876
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:44,239
there, what they they were all doing,

2877
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:46,320
all of them being consistent. uh this

2878
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:47,920
public hearing notice because this is a

2879
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,760
public hearing and it was posted in the

2880
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,920
county in St. Louis County on August

2881
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,480
10th, 2026. And then we did not have a

2882
01:47:54,480 --> 01:47:56,080
list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't

2883
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,080
take that off uh there and then this

2884
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,470
presentation before the commission.

2885
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:05,440
Any other questions from council?

2886
01:48:05,440 --> 01:48:08,880
>> All right. Anyone online?

2887
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,360
>> Yep. We will close the public hearing

2888
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:12,960
and the second reading will be on

2889
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,679
September 8th. Thank you, mayor.

2890
01:48:15,679 --> 01:48:16,960
>> Thank you.

2891
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:18,639
>> All right,

2892
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:20,639
moving on to item 16, surface

2893
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:22,239
transportation block grant agreement

2894
01:48:22,239 --> 01:48:23,440
with Missouri Highways and

2895
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:25,040
Transportation Commission for the North

2896
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,920
Price Phase One Grant Project.

2897
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:31,510
>> Good evening, Mayor.

2898
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:32,960
and council members.

2899
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,400
Again, Bruce McGregor, public works

2900
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,320
director. Um back in January uh work

2901
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,719
session, we discussed our second uh

2902
01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:43,920
application for a surface transportation

2903
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,199
suballocated grant for North Price Road

2904
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:50,000
section one or phase one old bottom road

2905
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,760
to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100

2906
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,239
linear feet. We had applied the previous

2907
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:58,560
year and and didn't score high enough.

2908
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,719
So we made some strategic amendments to

2909
01:49:00,719 --> 01:49:03,760
our application and uh basically

2910
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,639
offloaded some of the uh engineering

2911
01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:08,960
work out of the grant as the city

2912
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,199
responsibility to try to meet a

2913
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:13,440
threshold to score more points which is

2914
01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:16,560
one of the criteria used when the uh

2915
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,960
committee is reviewing the uh the grant

2916
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,920
applications. Uh so we found out a

2917
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,600
little bit earlier by looking at the

2918
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,760
agendas for the uh commission at East

2919
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:27,119
West Gateway that we were on the

2920
01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:29,920
recommended list and then a couple weeks

2921
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,679
ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT

2922
01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:36,480
from the local projects uh administrator

2923
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:39,760
that we were on the list for the uh

2924
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,960
meeting this week for award approval and

2925
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,280
that they recommended uh to hit the

2926
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:47,280
ground running that we present our uh

2927
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:48,880
the agreement to council for a

2928
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,880
pre-authorization

2929
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:54,639
uh to uh to uh execute the agreement

2930
01:49:54,639 --> 01:49:57,679
should the uh board uh go ahead and do

2931
01:49:57,679 --> 01:50:00,480
the expected uh you know decision this

2932
01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:03,360
week. Uh be glad to answer any questions

2933
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,320
about the project, the timing, um next

2934
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,400
steps, what we've already completed,

2935
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,600
anything like that.

2936
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:12,639
>> Excited about it.

2937
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:13,920
>> Yeah.

2938
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,199
>> Good snooping.

2939
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:18,000
>> Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since

2940
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:20,560
Amron had been so busy there, we've

2941
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:22,320
received notice for them that they've

2942
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,119
done all of the energizing work on the

2943
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:27,280
circuits, uh, they may be coming back

2944
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,080
into town over the next few months,

2945
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,040
removing some obsolete cable uh, from

2946
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,840
the runs, but everything is in service

2947
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,719
uh, for that uh, load balancing or load

2948
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:41,520
relief project uh, for the distribution

2949
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,000
in University City and Leoo uh, just

2950
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,920
since it's in that same area that that

2951
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,880
project is done. Uh there

2952
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,960
>> so if we were to get final approval for

2953
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:52,800
this, I think this is question in

2954
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,800
everyone's mind. When would this project

2955
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,560
be realistically done?

2956
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:59,280
>> Well, so that's a a very fair question.

2957
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,400
What we have done uh last year uh we had

2958
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,199
committed to doing the survey. Uh this

2959
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:07,920
year what we had began we began in last

2960
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,840
budget year which is in the spring was

2961
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:13,679
the design work. Uh our intent is to

2962
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:16,080
have our what what they call an RE

2963
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:18,880
request for environmental review. So

2964
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,440
that is a uh a submitt that goes to

2965
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:24,639
Jefferson City to basically clear any

2966
01:51:24,639 --> 01:51:26,480
environmental impacts we have and that

2967
01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:28,239
might be more than just like hazardous

2968
01:51:28,239 --> 01:51:31,920
materials but like native people or some

2969
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,880
other social economic uh impacts uh

2970
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,599
along with uh ecology as well. You know

2971
01:51:37,599 --> 01:51:40,800
are we displacing any bats? The biggest

2972
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,560
unknown we have is rightaway

2973
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,040
acquisition. So, we have a 40-way

2974
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:48,480
rightway width. We want to maximize our

2975
01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:50,639
existing condition of two sidewalks,

2976
01:51:50,639 --> 01:51:53,280
right? One on either side. Uh we want to

2977
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,719
have a safe roadway for motorists and

2978
01:51:56,719 --> 01:51:59,040
for cyclists. And we still want to have

2979
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,199
that appearance that's, you know, I

2980
01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:02,800
think feels softer to us, which is a

2981
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,920
tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and

2982
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,800
relocate utilities and and other things,

2983
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:12,080
we need at minimum a temporary

2984
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,880
construction easement for grading uh

2985
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,000
from probably all of the uh property

2986
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,480
owners along the alignment. Okay. So um

2987
01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:24,560
once we start through this process and

2988
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:26,800
get the rear submitted, we'll be

2989
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,119
planning public meetings. Um we'll be

2990
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:31,040
getting the word out, maybe going

2991
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,840
doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around

2992
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,599
with a vest with the engineer and we're

2993
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:36,960
looking at conditions, you know,

2994
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,119
interested parties come out. So many

2995
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:41,679
folks are quite excited about it. But,

2996
01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:43,920
you know, once you start talking about

2997
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,599
changing, you know, the side of your

2998
01:52:45,599 --> 01:52:47,920
house, people, you know, can start to

2999
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:51,040
question things. So, um, we always hope

3000
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,119
that we don't get to condemnation. We've

3001
01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:55,920
done it before. And on the old bottom

3002
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,320
project, I think we submitted the final

3003
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,119
court documents 2 or 3 days before our

3004
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:04,560
grant expired uh which was uh almost $2

3005
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:08,239
million for that project. So um we hope

3006
01:53:08,239 --> 01:53:11,360
we never get there again uh on there. So

3007
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,360
that's our biggest announcement. So So

3008
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,719
the long story short, we would hope to

3009
01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:18,880
be doing construction for the schedule

3010
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,760
in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be

3011
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,639
ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that

3012
01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:26,480
our residents will be enthusiastic.

3013
01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:29,280
We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll

3014
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,199
be able to start the negotiation sooner

3015
01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:33,360
in the involvement and, you know, get

3016
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,480
everybody signed off on. So any type of

3017
01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:38,560
um federal grant or grant run through

3018
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:43,679
MODOT requires the city to do a lot more

3019
01:53:43,679 --> 01:53:47,520
um work and there are a lot more steps

3020
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,320
that need to be taken than if we were

3021
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,719
just doing a regular street project,

3022
01:53:52,719 --> 01:53:55,119
right? And so that is why it requires a

3023
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:57,599
lot more time. Uh realistically, you

3024
01:53:57,599 --> 01:53:59,840
know, I would tell people three to four

3025
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,800
years. Give yourself a little uh leeway

3026
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,880
because it's not just us that has to do

3027
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,760
the work. Um

3028
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,239
when we do rideway acquisition, we do

3029
01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:12,000
all of that and then MDOT has to go

3030
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,000
through and approve all of that and we

3031
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:15,599
can't get started on the next step till

3032
01:54:15,599 --> 01:54:18,719
we finish right away. And then plans,

3033
01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:20,719
MDOT has to approve all of that. So

3034
01:54:20,719 --> 01:54:22,639
there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot

3035
01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:24,560
of work and then waiting on others and

3036
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,400
then doing a lot of work and waiting on

3037
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,119
others. So if you want to give um give

3038
01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:30,880
your constituents kind of a realistic

3039
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,639
answer, 3 to four years.

3040
01:54:32,639 --> 01:54:34,480
>> We have the same concerns of

3041
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,719
hypothetically a gas line that isn't

3042
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:37,599
marked where

3043
01:54:37,599 --> 01:54:39,360
>> Yeah. And and and one of the challenges

3044
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:41,199
is like what we ran into on the cost

3045
01:54:41,199 --> 01:54:44,239
share project is the area team meets

3046
01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:47,280
once a week. So and we aren't privy to

3047
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,280
the meeting. So they meet, they review,

3048
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,520
they ask a question. Well, then we have

3049
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,080
a week to respond and then they ask

3050
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:55,599
another question and then we have

3051
01:54:55,599 --> 01:54:58,239
another week to respond. So, you know,

3052
01:54:58,239 --> 01:54:59,760
it's not like we can make these

3053
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:06,000
decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so that's exactly right. And and we have

3054
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,480
we follow and we do everything by the

3055
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:11,199
rules anyway, but we we have extreme

3056
01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:12,960
oversight on rightway acquisition

3057
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,199
following what's called the Uniform Act.

3058
01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:18,320
Okay. It is uh designed to protect the

3059
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,560
property owner, you know, and make sure

3060
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:22,560
that everything is done, everything is

3061
01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:25,119
properly appraised, every opportunity is

3062
01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:28,800
given for the the owner to review and

3063
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,880
sign off on, you know, without being

3064
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,119
coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good

3065
01:55:33,119 --> 01:55:34,960
that I know we did the right thing. You

3066
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,880
know, we always appraise everything. We

3067
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,560
sometimes we get second opinions. We did

3068
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:40,239
that on the cost share project because

3069
01:55:40,239 --> 01:55:42,400
we wanted to make sure it was such a big

3070
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,159
acquisition that we were doing the right

3071
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:47,599
thing and everything was being fair uh

3072
01:55:47,599 --> 01:55:48,880
you know for oversight.

3073
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,480
>> So to answer your question are we going

3074
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:53,440
to find something unexpected? Yes.

3075
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,040
>> And it could be something positive

3076
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,360
unexpected. It might not be something

3077
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:59,599
positive. it. Who knows?

3078
01:55:59,599 --> 01:56:00,320
>> Um,

3079
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:02,880
>> one of the most positive that's ahead.

3080
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,760
>> Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer

3081
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,480
ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.

3082
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:10,000
Um, there will almost always be

3083
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:11,360
something unexpected.

3084
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:12,000
>> Yeah.

3085
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:13,679
>> All right. Fun times.

3086
01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:16,719
>> All right. Any other questions? And

3087
01:56:16,719 --> 01:56:18,320
anyone want to make

3088
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:20,800
>> uh make a motion to authorize the city

3089
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,560
manager to execute an STBG agreement

3090
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,480
with the Missouri Transportation

3091
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,040
Commission for the North Price Road

3092
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,400
phase 1 project contingent upon final

3093
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,080
award approval.

3094
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:34,880
>> Second.

3095
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:36,560
>> All right. Motion made second. Can we

3096
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,800
please pull the council?

3097
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:40,080
>> Council member Dragal.

3098
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:40,480
>> Yes.

3099
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:41,840
>> Council member Solomonov.

3100
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:42,159
>> Yes.

3101
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:43,199
>> Council member Clark.

3102
01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:43,599
>> Yes.

3103
01:56:43,599 --> 01:56:45,280
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

3104
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:46,560
>> Yes. Mayor Lewis.

3105
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:46,880
>> Yes.

3106
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,320
>> Motion has passed.

3107
01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:48,960
>> Thank you very much.

3108
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:50,639
Good luck.

3109
01:56:50,639 --> 01:56:51,599
>> Excited.

3110
01:56:51,599 --> 01:56:53,360
>> All right. Item 17, hearing from

3111
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,239
citizens part two. Does anyone in the

3112
01:56:56,239 --> 01:56:58,639
audience or online wish to make a

3113
01:56:58,639 --> 01:57:02,470
comment?

3114
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:03,760
» We're looking at one person.

3115
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:05,199
>> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move

3116
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:07,280
on to item 18, review and acceptance of

3117
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,119
minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections

3118
01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:12,159
or notes to call out on the minutes?

3119
01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:14,639
>> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to

3120
01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:15,440
approve.

3121
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,040
>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the

3122
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,360
council minutes from uh August 11th,

3123
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,320
2026.

3124
01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:20,960
>> Second.

3125
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,159
>> All right. Could we please pull the

3126
01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:24,400
council?

3127
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:25,599
>> Council member Juel,

3128
01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:26,000
>> yes.

3129
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:27,280
>> Council member Solomonov,

3130
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:27,520
>> yes.

3131
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:28,480
>> Council member Clark,

3132
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:28,800
>> yes.

3133
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,480
>> Chairman Prom Halman,

3134
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:30,800
>> yes.

3135
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:31,520
>> Mayor Lewis,

3136
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:31,840
>> yes.

3137
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,119
>> Motion has passed. All

3138
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:34,800
>> right. Thank you. We'll move on to item

3139
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,239
19, city attorney's report.

3140
01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:37,840
>> No report this evening.

3141
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,280
>> All right. But we do have a close

3142
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:40,239
session.

3143
01:57:40,239 --> 01:57:42,000
>> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on

3144
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,560
to item 20, close session. So, can I

3145
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:46,000
please get a motion to go into close

3146
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:46,800
session?

3147
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,560
>> Like to make a motion go into close

3148
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:51,520
session pursuant to the revised statutes

3149
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,000
of the state of Missouri. Discuss

3150
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,400
client, excuse me, attorney client

3151
01:57:56,400 --> 01:57:58,400
privileges, communications pursuant to

3152
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:02,080
section 610.021

3153
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:04,560
and real for and real estate matters

3154
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:10,229
pursuant to section 610.0212.

3155
01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:11,040
» All right. All right. Do I hear a

3156
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:11,679
second?

3157
01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:12,560
>> Second.

3158
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,440
>> Please pull the council.

3159
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:21,119
>> Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is the wrong one. Council member

3160
01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:21,760
Duel.

3161
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:22,159
>> Yes.

3162
01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:23,360
>> Council member Solomon.

3163
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:23,679
>> Yes.

3164
01:58:23,679 --> 01:58:24,719
>> Council member Clark.

3165
01:58:24,719 --> 01:58:25,119
>> Yes.

3166
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:26,719
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

3167
01:58:26,719 --> 01:58:27,040
>> Yes.

3168
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:27,840
>> Mayor Lewis.

3169
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,320
>> Yes. All right. We will now close this

3170
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:31,840
regular session and move into executive

3171
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:36,310
floor session.

3172
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:38,400
» All right. We'll call the we'll close

3173
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:39,920
the executive session and call the

3174
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,679
regular session back to order. Um no

3175
01:58:41,679 --> 01:58:45,360
major decisions were made uh at this

3176
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:46,880
point. Um

3177
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,320
>> I'll make a motion to adjurnn

3178
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,400
>> and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at

3179
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:54,920
9:45 p.m. Thank you.