[0:03] All right. Good evening everyone. We'll
[0:06] call the Ovette City Council meeting on
[0:08] August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can
[0:11] we please have roll call?
[0:13] >> Mayor Lewis
[0:14] >> here.
[0:14] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman
[0:16] >> here.
[0:16] >> Council member Clark
[0:18] >> here.
[0:18] >> Council member Solomonov
[0:19] >> here.
[0:20] >> Council member Durgel
[0:21] >> here.
[0:22] >> All righty. Uh, are there any
[0:24] communications to share at this time?
[0:26] >> I have no written communications. All
[0:28] right, we'll move on to item number
[0:30] three, city manager report, please.
[0:32] >> Good evening.
[0:35] Let me
[0:40] share my screen.
[0:48] » We were late, so sorry.
[0:53] >> All right. Um, good evening everyone.
[0:57] Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming
[0:59] events. We are winding up summer and,
[1:03] uh, fall is always super busy for us.
[1:06] So, we encourage everybody to come out
[1:08] to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st,
[1:12] which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00
[1:15] a.m. in the morning to meet with one of
[1:18] our, uh, police officers. So, coffee
[1:20] with a cop uh, will be during that time.
[1:23] There will be coffee and some limited
[1:25] free pastries. So, if you have not had a
[1:27] chance to uh try a pastry at Paris
[1:31] Baguette, this would be a great
[1:32] opportunity to do that, as well as uh
[1:35] come talk to one of Olivet's finests.
[1:40] Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So,
[1:44] this is an opportunity for you and your
[1:46] neighbors to gather to have a block
[1:49] party and then if you sign up uh some
[1:52] oliveette city officials, including the
[1:56] uh police officers, the fire department,
[1:58] you might get the fire truck or the
[2:00] ambulance uh to come and to stop by and
[2:02] to say hello um meet and greet with uh
[2:05] our oliveette community. So, um we would
[2:08] encourage all of the neighbors to go
[2:10] ahead and sign up. If you have
[2:12] questions, uh, please reach out to
[2:14] Lieutenant Selzer in the police
[2:16] department.
[2:20] And every year we do the Battle of the
[2:23] Badges, which is a competition between
[2:26] the fire department and the police
[2:27] department. Uh, it is essentially a
[2:30] blood drive for the American Red Cross.
[2:33] And both our fire department and our
[2:36] police department have compelling
[2:38] stories, personal stories about
[2:41] grandchildren uh and their need for
[2:44] blood, hence the blood drive. And so
[2:46] individuals who come and donate blood
[2:49] are given an opportunity to cast a vote
[2:52] for either the police department or the
[2:54] fire department. Um and at the you know
[2:57] at the end of the drive the winning
[3:00] department receives some gift from the
[3:04] losing department. Um the fire
[3:07] department has more years that they have
[3:09] won uh than the police department. So
[3:12] come out donate for a good cause to the
[3:14] American cross and then choose which
[3:17] public safety group is your favorite.
[3:22] Trivia night is being hosted at Five
[3:25] Oaks on September 18th. There are nine
[3:28] tables left, so bring your friends uh
[3:31] for a table of eight. The theme this
[3:33] year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there
[3:36] should be something for everyone. Um
[3:40] register for your table and we hope to
[3:42] see you there. I think there's at least
[3:44] one staff table. Um and I think a couple
[3:48] other folks have gotten um tables for
[3:50] the trivia night.
[3:53] The great Olivet cleanout is happening
[3:55] again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.
[3:58] This is a change from um Stacy Park. So
[4:01] in years past it's been at Stacy Park.
[4:03] This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson.
[4:05] It's on the lower parking lot. So this
[4:08] is an opportunity for residents to
[4:11] either have documents shredded if you
[4:14] have some of those in your office or
[4:16] your home office. This is not for um a
[4:19] business cleanout, but if you do have a
[4:21] home office and you have documents that
[4:23] you would like shredded or if you have
[4:25] any um e-waste, so almost anything with
[4:28] a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle
[4:31] those for you.
[4:32] >> Do you know if it's still a drive-thru?
[4:34] >> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a
[4:35] drive-thru. And so there is a very
[4:37] specific route for you to uh to come
[4:40] through. They will take the items um out
[4:42] of your vehicle. It's very easy. you
[4:45] should be um in and out in not much time
[4:47] at all. So, and we did receive the
[4:49] grant. So, we've signed off on that and
[4:51] we did receive the grant for this.
[4:56] » The fall and winter activity guide is
[4:58] out. These are all of the recreational
[5:01] programs that the city is offering
[5:03] through the fall and the winter. We have
[5:05] some hard copies out in the lobby if you
[5:07] would like. Uh it's also on the city's
[5:09] website and should be hitting should
[5:12] actually be in homes already. So, we
[5:14] would encourage you to check those out.
[5:15] We have activities for all ages.
[5:19] And then I just always encourage
[5:21] everyone to sign up for weekly, which is
[5:23] our weekly e newswsletter.
[5:27] And then just some general city updates.
[5:31] Um, our new finance director, Julia
[5:34] Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably
[5:38] uh in September, we will bringing be
[5:39] bringing her to council to to introduce
[5:41] her. Uh we are recruiting for another
[5:45] police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told
[5:48] you that we had made conditional officer
[5:51] offers to two individuals. Uh one of
[5:54] them accepted. They are in the
[5:55] pre-employment screening phase. Um the
[5:58] other candidate decided that uh he was
[6:00] going to remain at his uh his place of
[6:02] employment. Um and then the follow-up
[6:05] from the Hicks Carter Hicks the
[6:07] employment engagement committee is
[6:09] meeting this week. They're going to
[6:10] start working on um employee recognition
[6:14] and then um I have asked Hicks Carter
[6:17] Hicks to craft a proposal to help the
[6:20] city with an internal communications
[6:22] plan. uh one of the uh comments and
[6:26] areas of deficiency on the survey was
[6:29] communication and that's a pretty broad
[6:31] um topic and so I do think working with
[6:34] them to create and improve some of our
[6:37] internal communications is a good start
[6:39] to making headway on that uh survey
[6:42] result. Are they going to talk to
[6:44] employees to understand kind of like
[6:46] what I I know they have the survey
[6:48] results, but to understand like where
[6:49] they saw gaps in communication. Will
[6:51] they have those conversations before
[6:52] they craft?
[6:53] >> They're going to craft me a proposal to
[6:55] do it. So like we'll get a scope of
[6:56] work.
[6:57] >> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk
[6:58] to people. Gotcha.
[6:59] >> Correct. Not build a plan and then say
[7:01] Okay. Correct. Gotcha.
[7:05] » Uh and then here are your upcoming
[7:07] meeting dates. And so with that, I can
[7:09] answer any council questions.
[7:14] No. All right. Thank you very much.
[7:18] >> All right. We are going to move on to
[7:20] staff reports, please, then.
[7:21] >> All right. Uh, starting with fire
[7:23] department. So, we often talk about the
[7:24] fire department and their um
[7:27] firefighting training and their um calls
[7:31] for fire. But I thought this month we
[7:33] might just kind of highlight the fact
[7:35] that they do run an ambulance and that
[7:39] takes a a good amount of their time.
[7:41] They actually run quite a few medical
[7:43] calls. So just
[7:46] uh looking at this chart, this is on
[7:48] average about five calls a day that
[7:51] they're running. Um, as you can see,
[7:53] they spend a lot of time in the city of
[7:55] Alvette, but we are also contracted for
[7:58] um, fire service, fire and EMS service
[8:01] for the pocket of uninccorporated that's
[8:04] just north of us on Dealman. So, we
[8:07] respond there. St. Louis County
[8:09] contracts with us, pays us to provide
[8:11] that service to them. And then we do get
[8:13] called out of town um often to um Creve
[8:17] Corps or U City um or certain things on
[8:21] the highway we might get called out for both police and or for EMS and fire
[8:28] parks and wreck. Uh we just finished
[8:31] earlier this month uh municipals. So,
[8:34] municipals is this uh part of this photo
[8:37] right here is h offered every other year
[8:41] and it is a camp that highlights the
[8:45] city departments. So, the police
[8:47] department had a day and brought out the
[8:51] mounted patrol from St. Charles County,
[8:54] brought out some therapy dogs, brought
[8:57] out some um other fun police things. The
[9:02] fire department had a day had an half a
[9:05] day and they got to go down the slide
[9:06] and the fire department because we have
[9:08] a slide and not a pole and they got to
[9:11] do some other fun uh firefighter things.
[9:14] This particular picture we had an
[9:16] opportunity to partner with Emerson who
[9:18] is a business here in the city of
[9:20] Alvette and they came and did uh science
[9:24] things with uh with the kids. So they
[9:26] did the egg drop project um learning
[9:29] about gravity and um force distribution
[9:32] and things like that. And so the kids
[9:33] had a good time. And then the other
[9:35] thing with uh the parks department, this
[9:38] happens to be the segment uh one of the
[9:40] new segments of the Centennial Greenway.
[9:43] So now that that greenway has been in
[9:45] for more than one year, maintenance
[9:47] falls to the city. And so this is our um
[9:50] horiculturalist
[9:52] and our park staff who are clearing um
[9:55] clearing the fence lines uh along along
[9:58] that particular section of the trail
[10:03] planning department. So these are fiscal
[10:05] year to date. So from June of 25 through
[10:09] July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through
[10:12] June of this year. So, as you can see,
[10:15] um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots
[10:19] of people got their roof replaced um in
[10:22] this particular fiscal year, most likely
[10:24] from uh the storm that came through in
[10:27] um in this in May of last year. Um and
[10:31] we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,
[10:34] this could be like reinvestment by
[10:37] businesses or new businesses coming in
[10:39] or updates to businesses. Uh so this is
[10:42] a good sign and what has um been keeping
[10:45] one aspect of what has been keeping um
[10:48] Carlos and his staff very busy over the
[10:51] course of the year.
[10:54] The police department uh officer Bagsby,
[10:58] this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to
[11:00] Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking
[11:04] about gun safety in particular uh
[11:06] gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department
[11:09] donated 50 gunlocks for this particular
[11:11] event. So, this is just a reminder that
[11:14] our police department has gunlocks
[11:17] available to anyone in the community who
[11:19] is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and
[11:22] they are available Monday through
[11:23] Friday, normal business hours. Just go
[11:26] see the records clerk um here at city
[11:28] center uh if that's something that you
[11:30] are interested.
[11:34] And then public works. Um, if you have
[11:37] driven at Price, North Price and Olive,
[11:41] you have seen a lot of work there. Uh,
[11:43] this happens to be the contractor. They
[11:46] did some paving overnight. They did a
[11:49] really um a really nice job on that
[11:52] work. The work here at the 9201 Olive
[11:56] site where um the CBDraton building was,
[12:02] there has been a delay. It is not a
[12:04] delay related to the city.
[12:07] It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't
[12:10] where wasn't as deep as we thought it
[12:12] was.
[12:14] That required some changes to storm
[12:16] water drains that MDOT took a long time
[12:18] trying to figure out what they wanted.
[12:20] Um but work is moving forward. In fact,
[12:23] Spire was on site today moving the gas
[12:25] line that needed to be moved in order to
[12:27] accommodate um the storm drain. So,
[12:29] we're a little bit behind on where we
[12:32] thought we would be to close out this
[12:33] project. Um, but it is related to
[12:37] situations beyond our control. And then
[12:39] we do have some good news. So, as you
[12:42] might recall, we um put in for a grant
[12:45] for
[12:46] um reconstruction of North Price between
[12:50] Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant.
[12:54] And while we have not received the grant
[12:56] yet, we are on the recommended list. So,
[13:01] um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this
[13:04] week to review that recommended list and
[13:06] hopefully approve that list and
[13:08] hopefully we will be approved so that we
[13:12] can um move forward
[13:15] with reconstruction of that section of
[13:17] North Price. It is a multi-year project.
[13:20] So there will be design time and
[13:22] right-of-way acquisition time and then
[13:24] construction time. So it's looking
[13:26] probably a 3 to four year long u process
[13:31] and that is all I have unless you have
[13:33] any additional questions for me.
[13:36] >> Questions? Pencil? No, it's very
[13:39] thorough. Thank you very much.
[13:40] >> Thank you.
[13:41] >> All right, we will move on to monthly
[13:44] financial reports, please.
[14:04] All right, I am filling in for our
[14:06] interim finance director who um she had
[14:10] a previously scheduled event this
[14:13] evening. So um you are seeing the report
[14:17] for the second month of the year. Um
[14:22] as you can see we are we are on track.
[14:25] Um general revenue started the year
[14:28] above expectations by about $37,000.
[14:33] General fund expenditures are also above
[14:35] expectations. Um this is normal. We have
[14:38] a variety of um like all of our
[14:41] insuranceances are due. So workers comp,
[14:44] liability, property, all of that is due
[14:47] um at the very beginning of the year. So
[14:50] um that's not unexpected.
[14:53] Um it does result in an unfavorable
[14:55] variance. But again, we are um this is
[14:58] the July financial report. So at this
[15:00] point, we were one month into uh into
[15:03] the into the into the year.
[15:06] Um it is not unusual for property taxes
[15:09] to be slow. Again, we get those in um
[15:12] December and January.
[15:15] And um parks and wreck revenues started
[15:19] the year mixed um and they do um they
[15:22] exceeded budget projections due to high
[15:24] soccer enrollments. So soccer is very popular. And then the chart of our
[15:29] month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales
[15:33] tax, which we took out a bunch of the
[15:35] noise. If you might remember past
[15:37] graphs, there were a lot of lines there.
[15:40] So this is just the last two years. So
[15:43] fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we
[15:46] are um for 27. So we are of course
[15:50] higher than 25 and a little bit below um
[15:53] of 26.
[15:55] So if you have any questions, I'm happy
[15:56] to answer those for you.
[15:58] >> We anticipate a drop off or I don't
[15:59] remember what the drop off. Yeah,
[16:02] >> we don't anticipate the drop off, but I
[16:05] will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.
[16:09] So, anything that we uh receive in
[16:12] September is actually from people buying
[16:15] things in July because it's always a
[16:17] two-month lag.
[16:18] >> Um, so
[16:20] we could it could also be um July is a
[16:27] is half the year and a quarter of the
[16:29] year. And so there are certain entities
[16:32] that only report sales tax half of the
[16:34] year, half of the way through the year
[16:36] and a quarter of the way through the
[16:37] year. So that um drop off could have
[16:40] been somebody missed the cut off. Um so
[16:44] there are a variety of of factors that
[16:47] could um account for that.
[16:50] >> But it bounced back up bounced back up.
[16:52] >> Correct. Yeah.
[16:53] >> Correct. particularly if it's um they
[16:56] just miss the cut off because then you
[16:58] get to you know you get it the next
[17:00] month. So
[17:04] » that's all I have unless you have
[17:05] anything else.
[17:05] >> No. Any questions?
[17:07] >> No.
[17:07] >> Okay.
[17:08] >> All right. Thank you. All right. We're
[17:10] going to move on to city council liaison
[17:12] reports for each council member to give
[17:14] an update of kind of activities they've
[17:15] been up to. Uh council member Clark,
[17:18] >> I have no reports at this time. Council
[17:21] member Jurgal.
[17:22] >> Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of
[17:25] the meeting was the installation of two
[17:27] new commissioners. So uh was kind of
[17:30] orient or orienting them to the process.
[17:34] And it was great going through it again
[17:35] because u uh they went over all of you
[17:38] know of city government and uh I know I
[17:42] was given the training beforehand but
[17:44] when you hear it the second time it
[17:45] sinks in a little bit more. So that's
[17:48] always good. Um, one other thing that's
[17:50] coming up with uh the parks is going to
[17:52] be the review of the Indian Meadows uh
[17:55] pavilions. So, that that's on their
[17:57] agenda and uh should be moving along.
[18:01] >> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.
[18:05] >> Uh, no report for me this evening. I do
[18:06] have an EDC meeting next Monday.
[18:10] >> It's on.
[18:11] >> It's
[18:14] Oh, the light is hitting my mistake.
[18:15] It's my first day. All right. uh
[18:17] chairman promis
[18:20] I attended the PCDC meeting on August
[18:22] 20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh
[18:26] metal canopy was approved for the brass
[18:30] tap to help extend the seasons for them
[18:33] um and extend some seating outside
[18:36] during the wintertime months. So, that
[18:38] was approved. Um, and that the roof of
[18:41] that structure will stay throughout the
[18:44] year, but then there's a wall kind of
[18:46] enclosure that's temporary for the uh
[18:50] months of November through Feb fe
[18:52] November through February.
[18:55] Um, we also discussed continued
[18:57] discussing a text amendment for coin
[19:00] operated laundromats.
[19:03] Um and a new single family home was
[19:06] approved for 1123 Hilltop
[19:10] and uh also had discussion on a text
[19:12] amendment to allow for other warehousing
[19:15] and storage that would be specifically
[19:18] for car condominiums.
[19:21] So, these are uh spaces that would be um
[19:27] condominiums that would be sold to
[19:29] individuals uh who would likely store
[19:32] their luxury cars, potentially
[19:35] um RVs and boats. Um but they would be
[19:39] individual condominiums. So, kind of a
[19:43] new thing um coming before the
[19:47] commission and and so it's um at the
[19:49] discussion stage at this point. Um and
[19:53] that's all. Thank you.
[19:54] >> Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the
[19:57] privilege of speaking uh chamber of
[20:00] commerce uh for the state of the city
[20:01] and it's an opportunity where I get to
[20:03] go and give a state of the city of how
[20:05] we're doing from an economic and
[20:07] residential and development and just how
[20:09] we're overall you know what is all of
[20:11] that and get to brag on all of that
[20:13] which was very exciting and a big thank
[20:15] you to staff Kiana and uh others for
[20:18] helping you know draft things put
[20:20] together a great slideshow and it was
[20:22] you know really wellreceived and get and
[20:23] get to meet some people there so that
[20:24] was really nice and then today I
[20:26] attended the Olivet housing authority uh
[20:28] where they had a few procedural items
[20:30] reviewing the financial audit reports
[20:32] approving other things talking about
[20:33] next steps on everything around some of
[20:35] the policies we're moving forward on the
[20:37] housing. So that that is progressing as
[20:39] well. Um and then um yeah those were
[20:44] things that I got to attend. So uh we'll
[20:47] move on to item seven items from council
[20:49] members. So, a chance for us just if
[20:51] we've been hearing things that you want
[20:53] to bring up for a future topic, we won't
[20:54] go deep into them now. And uh just a
[20:57] open forum.
[21:00] >> Nope.
[21:01] >> Nothing for me.
[21:01] >> All right. No,
[21:04] >> nothing for me.
[21:05] either. The only things
[21:07] I'll mention um since not everyone
[21:09] probably was able to attend previous
[21:10] meetings we've had and since I see a lot
[21:12] of uh speakers here which is going to be
[21:13] great is we did at a previous work
[21:16] session a few weeks ago discuss the
[21:17] Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh
[21:19] council member Joel mentioned that's
[21:21] going to come before parks and wreck
[21:22] where they're going to we asked to go
[21:24] back to their ask for their assessment
[21:26] and then it'll come back to the council
[21:27] at that point um and we'd given the
[21:30] direction to look at what it would take
[21:31] to remove and what their thoughts were
[21:33] and then uh we'll get their feedback on
[21:35] that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously
[21:37] discussed block cameras with the uh
[21:39] chief of police and so that will be on a
[21:41] future agenda so just calling that out
[21:43] as well as the NIT policy will be on a
[21:45] future uh agenda in the future as well
[21:48] uh and then obvious
[21:52] uh I imagine people here to speak as
[21:54] well and so appreciated that we had
[21:56] committed ID committed back that we're
[21:58] going to meet with our legal team to
[21:59] understand what options all of it has
[22:00] because it is a unique situation and
[22:02] then uh happy to meet with the concerned
[22:04] citizens themselves and any council are
[22:06] welcome to join me to want to hear
[22:07] everyone's you know concerns in person
[22:09] and understand everything and then after
[22:11] that we'll take whatever the appropriate
[22:14] actions that we can and don't know what
[22:16] those are right now can't promise
[22:17] anything but you know want to hear from
[22:19] everyone and then we'll we'll see what
[22:20] comes of that so all right uh we're
[22:23] going to move on to hearing from
[22:25] citizens so this is a portion of the
[22:26] agenda where anyone present in person or
[22:28] virtually may address the city council
[22:30] regarding any topic including those
[22:32] later in the agenda each speaker is
[22:34] allowed up three minutes to address the
[22:35] mayor and city council. Hearing from
[22:38] citizens is designed for councils to
[22:39] receive feedback rather than for a
[22:41] direct dialogue. We will take speakers
[22:43] in person first followed by any online.
[22:45] If you are in person, please complete a
[22:47] speaker card and give it to the clerk.
[22:48] If you've already given your card to the
[22:49] clerk, we will take you in the order
[22:52] submitted on your card. If you are
[22:54] online, wish to speak, please use the
[22:55] raise your hand feature and you will be
[22:57] added as a speaker. For all speakers, we
[22:59] ask that you state your name and address
[23:01] for the record prior to leaving the
[23:03] remarks and that you keep the three
[23:05] minutes and just so for the equity for
[23:08] everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and
[23:10] Bob Martin, please.
[23:17] And if you don't mind turning on the
[23:18] mic, please.
[23:21] >> Yep.
[23:23] Perfect.
[23:24] >> Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin.
[23:28] Nancy Martin
[23:29] >> and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week
[23:33] we sent all you guys an email regarding
[23:35] uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute.
[23:40] Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.
[23:42] Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding.
[23:45] >> Yes.
[23:46] >> Um, following are excer ex excuse me
[23:48] excerpts from the Missouri state chapter
[23:50] 220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is
[23:54] any act done or committed or suffered to
[23:56] be done, committed by any person or any
[23:59] substance or thing kept, maintained,
[24:01] placed or found in any public or private
[24:03] property that is injurous to the public
[24:05] health, safety or welfare. are to permit
[24:08] premises to become unsightly,
[24:09] unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the
[24:14] vicini to the vicinity or offensive to
[24:16] the senses of users of the public way
[24:19] abudding the premises that depreciates
[24:21] the enjoyment and the use of the
[24:23] property in the immediate vicinity to
[24:26] such an extent that it is harmful to the
[24:28] community in which the property is
[24:30] situated or such a condition exists. AZZ
[24:34] Galvanizing fits every one of these
[24:35] definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned
[24:38] light industrial, but it's expanded
[24:39] several times over the years. It's not
[24:42] light industrial anymore. We are asking
[24:44] Alvette to protect its citizens from
[24:46] this nuisance and use statute title 7
[24:50] cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7
[24:54] I'm sorry 71.780
[24:56] nuisances expensive suppression how paid
[25:00] the noise and toxic emissions are
[25:03] unbearable and hazardous to our
[25:05] neighbors health and quality of life and
[25:09] ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom
[25:12] that faces away from ACZ because we
[25:14] can't sleep in our master bedroom
[25:16] anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy
[25:18] our beautiful yard. We've lived in
[25:20] Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,
[25:23] >> please help us.
[25:26] Um, they're getting worse and worse.
[25:30] And we're up on Brford High where the
[25:33] noise really hits us, but our neighbors
[25:35] in Indian Meadows are just getting
[25:37] creamed. They're getting gassed. It's
[25:39] terrible. But thank you very much for
[25:41] coming. Really appreciate it.
[25:42] >> Thank you.
[25:46] » All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny
[25:49] Littleton.
[26:00] Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live
[26:02] at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask
[26:06] my city council if they would please
[26:07] support and help all of the residents
[26:10] deal with this do's a galvanizing.
[26:13] It's to the point where my son who's
[26:16] seven, he's beginning to have temper
[26:18] tantrums because he has a trampoline, a
[26:22] basketball hoop, a soccer net that now
[26:25] he can't play because when he begins to
[26:28] play, I have to make him come in. And so
[26:31] now he's getting upset, stumping yelling
[26:35] in the house. What's the purpose of me
[26:37] having this if I can't play? When are
[26:39] they going to move that company? He's
[26:40] seven years old. This is the point where
[26:45] he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now
[26:48] he's having them because he's not
[26:49] getting to play outside. And this was
[26:52] for the summer. So, I had to make fun
[26:55] activities in my basement. So, I mean,
[26:58] now the children, it's to the point
[27:00] where I'm asking the kids and my
[27:02] subdivision, you you guys got to go home
[27:04] now. You can't play here. Can we come
[27:05] back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you
[27:07] can come back. So, now the kids, it's
[27:10] just getting to be too much. And then
[27:12] also, I'm I know you brought up about
[27:14] you're going to bring it up with the
[27:15] parks and you guys are going to redisuss
[27:17] about the pavilion. Please move that
[27:20] pavilion. There's so much going on that
[27:22] my son is seven. He said, "There's
[27:24] always something going on over here at
[27:27] this pavilion. Problems every day. He's
[27:31] seven. There was a time he didn't know
[27:32] anything about that. Now he's seven."
[27:35] And he's saying these things. And one of
[27:37] the neighbors, she couldn't be here
[27:38] today. She did ask me, "Until you guys
[27:40] decide about how you're going to move
[27:43] it, would you please at least move the
[27:45] tables underneath the pavilion while you
[27:47] guys are trying to figure out how you're
[27:49] going to move that pavilion?" So until
[27:52] you have a due date when you're going to
[27:54] move it, could you please at least move
[27:55] the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery
[27:58] that happens in the morning, afternoon,
[28:00] and night, they won't have anywhere to
[28:02] sit and lay and do all of that extra
[28:05] activity that's unwanted and that we
[28:07] don't need. So I just wanted to ask you
[28:10] guys, would you please bless our
[28:11] community to help all the residents
[28:13] dealing with a galvanizing and the
[28:15] nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?
[28:18] Thank you so much. Thank you very much
[28:20] for coming.
[28:23] All right.
[28:26] Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.
[28:34] » Good evening.
[28:35] >> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on
[28:38] first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and
[28:40] Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's
[28:44] just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four
[28:48] o'clock. It wakes you up and then you
[28:49] can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it
[28:51] off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I
[28:54] guess, when they figure people or
[28:55] whatever's going on. But it's just been
[28:57] ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we
[28:59] haven't really said a lot because, you
[29:02] know, that there were attorneys working
[29:03] on it. So, you know, we want to continue
[29:05] that. But we need the help of the city.
[29:07] So, I hope that that uh state statute
[29:09] will help. I got a couple other things
[29:11] real quick. Um, one is our park and I
[29:16] know when they redid the the uh the
[29:19] trail, but they didn't do anything to
[29:21] the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind
[29:23] of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,
[29:25] the black that's in the actual park in
[29:28] Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly
[29:30] in some areas. So, the other concern is
[29:33] we have two spaces in uh the new park
[29:37] area that when it we get heavy rain,
[29:39] it's full of water. So the kids go out
[29:41] there and play. Then they muddy muddy up
[29:43] everything which is by the water park.
[29:46] And then the other area is by the
[29:48] playground area around one of the trees
[29:50] is set real low so if we can get that
[29:52] build back up so that the water won't
[29:54] set there. Um the other one is the
[29:57] trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I
[29:59] know they've cut some down but when we
[30:01] get any kind of a rain or wind, I should
[30:03] say wind, there's branches all over the
[30:06] park. And I realize it's more than one
[30:08] park. So sometimes it take them a while.
[30:10] But then the kids are playing and you
[30:11] got these big branches that are laying
[30:13] all over the park trail. Uh, one more
[30:15] thing. How chickens.
[30:19] We got the chicken coupoops gone from
[30:21] the side of the house, but there is a
[30:22] pin. So, I've asked over and over about
[30:25] an ordinance to be written so that I
[30:27] don't care about the chickens, but they
[30:28] need to be fenced in in the back of the
[30:30] house and not in the very front.
[30:34] This these chicken coops were on the
[30:36] front on the side of the home. and I've
[30:37] complained for a couple of years. And so
[30:40] it's my understanding that all of that
[30:42] has been washed aside. I don't know if
[30:44] anybody knows if that is true, but I'm
[30:46] going to I'm going to research it that
[30:48] that's over. The governor was is the one
[30:50] that uh approved that, but it's my
[30:54] understanding that they've been fighting
[30:55] it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we
[30:59] get an ordinance where they are are
[31:00] fenced in in the back? And then I think
[31:04] that's it. Um Oh. We have another area
[31:08] in our subdivision and I've complained
[31:09] about it several times. We need some
[31:11] help uh with uh enforcement of uh
[31:16] property upkeep. So, we got a lot of
[31:18] issues with that, but I understand we
[31:20] only have one part-time person
[31:23] and for this city, we could probably use
[31:25] one or two to just do property upkeep
[31:29] for the for uh all of the the entire uh
[31:34] et
[31:38] Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner
[31:40] of Grand View and La Hoya. There are
[31:44] huge papa trees that have grown out into
[31:47] the street. I've asked you can't even
[31:49] see the street sign. The the trees were
[31:51] trimmed back right at the sign, but of
[31:53] course they grow back. I'm asking that
[31:55] something be done about those trees
[31:57] because it's really a hindrance. If you
[31:59] are coming up to the stop sign and
[32:01] somebody's coming from the other
[32:02] direction, these trees are huge and they
[32:04] are actually in the street.
[32:07] You familiar with that? you know, been
[32:09] over there in
[32:10] >> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.
[32:13] So, we have several areas where the
[32:15] trees are actually growing into the
[32:17] street, ground up, not just hanging
[32:19] over. So, they actually block traffic.
[32:23] >> That's it.
[32:23] >> Thank you very much.
[32:24] >> Appreciate it.
[32:27] >> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.
[32:37] Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill
[32:40] Lane. So, I'm here to support the
[32:43] residents um near Indian Meadows and
[32:46] their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet
[32:49] resident, but also I'm representing the
[32:51] Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who
[32:54] have who the they have also gotten
[32:57] involved in these issues. There are
[32:59] really three issues. Light trespass,
[33:03] potential air pollution, and noise. The
[33:06] light trespass that is occurring should
[33:08] be easy to take care of because St.
[33:10] Louis County already has an ordinance
[33:13] against it. So, it'd be really good if
[33:16] someone from Alvette notified the county
[33:20] that light trespass from AZ shining into
[33:24] residents houses, shining off the
[33:26] property into residents houses and ask
[33:30] az to shield their lights.
[33:33] No, air pollution and noise are more
[33:35] difficult. However, Olivet can do
[33:38] something about it. The residents have
[33:40] been complaining about AZ for at least
[33:42] two years. But they didn't give up. They
[33:45] found a regulation that cities can
[33:48] enforce ordinances up to a half mile
[33:51] outside their boundaries. Alvette needs
[33:54] to step up and support its citizens. The
[33:57] county does not have the necessary
[33:59] equipment to determine if ACC is
[34:02] emitting pollutants
[34:04] and to
[34:06] and and to identify the pollutants.
[34:09] However, the outside groups that that
[34:13] they're working with um they're trying
[34:16] to um install air monitors and analyze
[34:20] air samples and noise monitors. So, I
[34:23] encourage you to work with them to get
[34:26] data to back up their claims.
[34:30] Um, noise is a harder problem, but put
[34:33] yourself in these resident shoes. How
[34:35] would you like to hear a loud bang
[34:38] several times in the middle of the
[34:40] night?
[34:41] I'm asking you to find a way to stop the
[34:43] loud noise at night and determine if az
[34:46] is polluting the air and if they are to
[34:48] try to stop them. These problems should
[34:51] not be ignored and all of it can and
[34:53] should do something about them.
[34:55] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate your
[34:57] time.
[34:59] >> Right. Is there anyone else in the
[35:01] audience who wanted to speak?
[35:11] » Good evening.
[35:12] >> Evening.
[35:12] >> My name is Denise Williams. I live at
[35:15] 9600 Hiron Drive.
[35:19] I just have to say I live ac across the
[35:22] street from the park
[35:24] where
[35:27] all this noise
[35:29] have been going on for quite a while.
[35:34] And
[35:36] hearing this noise all day
[35:40] and throughout your time of rest
[35:46] is depreciating
[35:48] your livelihood.
[35:51] I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest.
[35:54] I've retired to come home and enjoy the
[35:57] kids, enjoy my bed where I've been
[36:00] missing it for all this time. And then
[36:02] you come home and you're hearing all of
[36:06] this unnecessary
[36:08] noise that's not supposed to be a part
[36:11] of your life in Eloette.
[36:15] I used to call Alvette when I moved here
[36:18] sleepy hollow.
[36:20] Very quiet, very surreal.
[36:26] That has been stolen.
[36:29] And
[36:31] days and days and days have passed by
[36:35] and all of you all are sleeping
[36:38] comfortably while we're up in the I walk
[36:42] the trail three times a day. You hear
[36:44] it? It's supposed to be surreal on the
[36:48] um path. It's supposed to be something
[36:50] great that you all have done for the
[36:54] community.
[36:58] I don't think so.
[37:01] Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that
[37:03] stuff big
[37:06] just so much smoke it covers the whole
[37:10] park. The stench comes in your windows.
[37:15] You smell it at night.
[37:18] Not including the noise, but the smoke,
[37:21] the stench.
[37:25] So
[37:26] imagine, close your eyes and imagine
[37:29] that's how your days are going. Every
[37:32] day you got to deal with this every day.
[37:37] Your kids are inhaling this
[37:41] poison.
[37:43] We're at 70. They're cutting years off
[37:46] our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's
[37:48] chemicals that we're absorbing into our
[37:52] bodies. the kids are absorbing over at
[37:55] the park that is so nice to have in the
[37:58] neighborhood, but it's being blown
[38:00] straight to hell.
[38:02] Their lives are being cut short.
[38:06] And
[38:07] you guys are
[38:11] when y'all sleep at night, just think
[38:14] your glory oliveette
[38:17] is causing suffering
[38:20] for a lot of of your community and we're
[38:25] just asking you to really take this to
[38:28] heart and understand what we're dealing
[38:30] with.
[38:32] Thank you.
[38:32] >> Thank you very much for coming.
[38:34] Appreciate it.
[38:37] All right. Anyone else in the audience
[38:39] wish to speak?
[38:42] Is there anyone online? Please raise
[38:44] your hand.
[38:50] All right. Thank you for everyone for
[38:52] your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.
[38:55] All right. We are going to move on now
[38:56] to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please
[39:00] have the title be read? Bill 3066, an
[39:03] ordinance authorizing a special permit
[39:04] usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of
[39:08] the property grounds, addressed as 9600
[39:10] and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit
[39:13] Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
[39:15] outdoor display and storage area on the
[39:18] east parking lot portion associated with
[39:19] their tenant space addressed as 9612
[39:22] Olive Boulevard. Second reading.
[39:24] >> Thank you.
[39:29] Good evening, mayor, members of the
[39:31] council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm
[39:32] the director of planning and community
[39:34] development, and I'm requesting a second
[39:36] reading call for action for uh this
[39:39] bill. We had our public hearing on
[39:40] August 11th. Be glad to answer any
[39:42] questions, and we do have a
[39:43] representative in attendance if
[39:44] necessary.
[39:46] >> The only question I had is I think there
[39:48] was a an ask to look at and I think
[39:50] council man had asked about it like in
[39:52] terms of the location, could it be
[39:53] wedged into the corner in the back or
[39:55] anything like that? Was that feasible?
[39:57] Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm
[39:59] remembering correctly,
[40:01] >> that was related if like parking was an
[40:03] issue.
[40:04] >> Yeah.
[40:04] >> If that and and that may be something
[40:06] that needs to be looked at if it becomes
[40:09] an issue or not.
[40:10] >> That's fine.
[40:10] >> Um, and but I I think that's what we
[40:14] were talking about.
[40:14] >> That is correct. Okay.
[40:15] >> That's my understanding.
[40:16] >> Yeah. And I guess my question is a
[40:18] procedural question related um just with
[40:21] us being a fairly new council. Should
[40:23] there be an issue that becomes apparent
[40:26] with parking um or traffic movement with
[40:31] the location safety um what what is the
[40:35] process for if if we approve the special
[40:38] permit as it is tonight but realize that
[40:40] it is not functioning in in the way that
[40:44] we intended it to.
[40:46] >> We'll engage with the uh first engage
[40:48] with the applicant or the petitioner
[40:49] that operates a special use permit. see
[40:52] what we can try to mitigate what is out
[40:54] there, get a better understanding, uh
[40:56] then ultimately report back to the
[40:58] council. The council does have the right
[40:59] to revoke a permit uh if it finds that
[41:03] there is some val validation to the
[41:04] concerns that are expressed
[41:08] » question. How do we define parking
[41:10] issues? Like what do we consider that to
[41:12] be?
[41:12] >> That's a very good question. I mean that site I would assume uh that there
[41:17] will be some type of reported incident
[41:18] on Olive or so. But if somebody just
[41:21] can't find a parking space on a specific
[41:23] date uh you know they can bring that
[41:25] information we can try to log it and
[41:26] record it. But you know it would have to
[41:28] be something that that's known uh in
[41:32] there and then the the process that we
[41:33] had today of the people speaking before
[41:35] the council noting concerns or issues
[41:37] gets it on the record. I imagine that
[41:39] makes
[41:39] >> well and I imagine if the city got
[41:41] notified we that could be brought
[41:43] forward to us but I think about
[41:44] hypothetically a certain parking lot you
[41:46] know south of us at the end of 170 I
[41:48] hear people complain about you know all
[41:49] the time it's like you if we hear about
[41:51] citizens something we can bring up too
[41:52] hopefully it's not an issue and
[41:55] >> ultimately that it is I mean we will
[41:57] report back to the council the council
[41:59] has you know if there's a consensus that
[42:01] it is an issue I would assume the
[42:03] council holds the authority to revoke
[42:06] the permit or push
[42:07] >> modify
[42:08] solution.
[42:10] >> And we talked about Dobs only using the
[42:12] first row of parking, right?
[42:16] >> That is a private agreement, I believe,
[42:17] that they have with the property owner
[42:19] that they're supposed to be using only
[42:20] that.
[42:21] >> Okay. That's not a city enforcable.
[42:23] >> It wasn't anything that we we put in
[42:24] into our our contingencies or so because
[42:27] that's more again that's open parking
[42:30] for this.
[42:31] >> Okay.
[42:32] >> Is the parking lot itself owned by one
[42:35] parcel or another? It's the best the
[42:38] best of my understanding it's all owned
[42:39] by uh or the O3BP Associates which
[42:44] operates as Biano Properties. They have
[42:47] the the ownership of all the grounds and
[42:48] then dos leases from them in there. I
[42:51] know there are like three different
[42:53] parcels identified by county but it's
[42:55] one large site.
[42:57] >> Okay.
[43:00] >> All right.
[43:00] >> And then this is uh fairly random and I
[43:04] do apologize. I did not send this
[43:06] question to you ahead of time. Has there
[43:07] been any consideration with the little
[43:10] driveway, not driveway, but
[43:13] uh right ofway area in the front of that
[43:16] building where you have a curb cut on
[43:18] one side, a curve cut on the other side.
[43:20] Has there been any consideration to
[43:22] closing that driveway? This obviously is
[43:27] bigger than this particular special use
[43:30] permit, but through
[43:32] >> it's it's one of those it's a long-term
[43:34] discussion. We put together the council
[43:36] had authorized the uh us to do the
[43:39] olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master
[43:43] plan and it identified uh you know areas
[43:46] and that that's one of the sides.
[43:47] Unfortunately with the curvature of the
[43:49] road is one problem. The intersections
[43:52] of the opposite streets on the north
[43:54] side is another problem. and then none
[43:56] of the aprons align. Um, easy solution
[44:00] is to place a median. That resolve all
[44:01] the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a
[44:03] lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over
[44:06] time working with those property owners,
[44:08] we made them familiar with with the
[44:10] concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and
[44:12] we've had discussions about, you know,
[44:15] kind of nudging them to think think
[44:17] ahead of reassessing the whole parking
[44:20] layout on the the shopping center. It's
[44:22] a it's tough. It's something I got, you
[44:24] know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a
[44:27] determination of how that layout was was
[44:29] put in place and whether they looked at
[44:31] the the external factors and what was
[44:33] across the street. I can't tell you
[44:35] that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess
[44:40] we've made them aware. They know that
[44:41] there are issues. They're looking at
[44:43] some formal way that maybe
[44:46] uh over time that we can kind of like
[44:48] reshift or consolidate that but it get
[44:51] becomes expensive and that becomes the
[44:53] key question. Is it all on their dime or
[44:55] is it something that we collaborate with
[44:57] them and partner with uh in that
[44:59] process? If you go back to the catalyst
[45:01] tragedy uh another uh you know uh report
[45:04] that the council funded uh and there why
[45:06] it didn't go the full extent uh to old
[45:09] bonum road you know it talked about
[45:11] creating some type of uh traffic uh uh improvement district or or
[45:17] transportation improvement district to
[45:18] look at means of getting that you know
[45:22] re well it needs to be reassessed in
[45:24] terms of where are the best points of
[45:27] entry uh in there and and internal
[45:30] circulations are going to be also need
[45:32] to be looked at and of course the
[45:33] streetscape enhancements. So I hope that
[45:36] kind of addresses it. I mean it is as
[45:38] long as I my response to you
[45:40] >> probably another night for
[45:44] >> but I think it can be done within within
[45:46] you know you know the the plan's
[45:48] horizon.
[45:50] >> All right, any other questions?
[45:53] >> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a
[45:55] motion to approve bill 3066, an
[45:58] ordinance authorizing a special permit
[46:00] use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners
[46:05] of the property grounds addressed at
[46:07] 9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit
[46:11] Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
[46:13] outdoor display and storage area on the
[46:16] east parking lot portion associated with
[46:18] their tenant space addressed as 9612
[46:22] Olive Boulevard.
[46:23] >> Second. All right. Motion made by
[46:25] Council Member Jagos, second by Council
[46:27] Member Clark. Can we please pull to
[46:29] council?
[46:30] >> Council member Juel.
[46:31] >> Yes.
[46:31] >> Council member Solomonov.
[46:32] >> Yes.
[46:33] >> Council member Clark.
[46:34] >> Yes.
[46:34] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[46:36] >> Yes.
[46:36] >> Mayor Lewis.
[46:37] >> Yes.
[46:38] >> The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes
[46:40] ordinance 2836.
[46:43] >> Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's
[46:45] the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on
[46:47] to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please
[46:49] have the title be read? Bill 3067, an
[46:52] ordinance authorizing a special permit
[46:53] usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the
[46:57] property grounds, addressed as 10401
[47:00] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced
[47:02] driver assistance systems to operate an
[47:04] indoor automotive repair facility within
[47:06] the tenants space addressed as 10401
[47:09] Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second
[47:11] reading.
[47:13] >> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our
[47:16] previous meeting on August 11th along
[47:18] with a public hearing. be glad to answer
[47:19] any specific questions. We do have a
[47:21] representative, Mr. Corbin, and I
[47:22] believe one of the operators uh in
[47:24] attendance.
[47:27] >> I didn't have any questions. I think we
[47:28] covered it last time as far as I'm
[47:30] concerned. Does anyone have any
[47:31] questions?
[47:34] Not to discredit. I think the work was
[47:35] great last time, so we got our answer.
[47:37] So, it's a very interesting new property
[47:39] to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone
[47:43] doesn't have any questions, um I'll
[47:45] entertain a motion. I'd like to make a
[47:48] motion to approve bill 3067, an
[47:50] ordinance authorizing a special permit
[47:52] use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the
[47:55] property grounds addressed at 10401
[47:57] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced
[48:00] driver assistance systems to operate an
[48:02] indoor automotive repair facility within
[48:04] the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower
[48:08] Boulevard, Sweet B.
[48:11] >> Second.
[48:12] >> All right. U motion's been made and a
[48:14] second. Can we please pull the council?
[48:16] member Dragal,
[48:17] >> yes.
[48:17] >> Council member Solammanov,
[48:19] >> yes.
[48:19] >> Council member Clark,
[48:20] >> yes.
[48:20] >> Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman,
[48:22] >> yes.
[48:22] >> Mayor Lewis,
[48:23] >> yes.
[48:24] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes
[48:26] ordinance 2837.
[48:28] >> All right, moving on to item 11, please.
[48:30] Bill 3068. Can we please
[48:33] >> have the title read?
[48:34] >> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and
[48:37] adopting chapter 115, article 3, section
[48:39] 115.080 080 to 115.120
[48:43] conflict of interest for the city of
[48:45] Alvette, Missouri municipal code and
[48:47] establishing a procedure to disclose
[48:49] potential conflicts of interest and
[48:50] substantial interests for certain
[48:52] municipal officials. Second reading
[48:55] >> so we covered this last time procedural
[48:57] that we need to do this.
[48:59] >> That's correct.
[48:59] >> All right. I did not have any questions.
[49:01] Did anyone on the council?
[49:03] >> I had none.
[49:04] >> All right. Then I will entertain a
[49:06] motion. Make a motion to approve bill
[49:09] 3068,
[49:11] an ordinance reaffirming and adopting
[49:13] chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080
[49:18] through 115.120,
[49:21] conflict of interest of the city of
[49:23] Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and
[49:25] establishing a procedure to disclose
[49:27] potential conflicts of interest and
[49:29] substantial interests for certain
[49:31] municipal officials.
[49:33] >> All right, we hear a second.
[49:35] >> Second.
[49:35] >> All right. Can we please pull the
[49:37] council?
[49:38] >> Council member Duel.
[49:39] >> Yes.
[49:39] >> Council member Solomonov,
[49:41] >> yes.
[49:41] >> Council member Clark,
[49:42] >> yes.
[49:42] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[49:44] >> Yes.
[49:44] >> Mayor Lewis,
[49:45] >> yes.
[49:46] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes
[49:48] ordinance 2838.
[49:51] >> Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill
[49:54] 3069. Can we please have the title be
[49:56] read?
[49:57] >> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an
[49:59] easement to Spire for the installation
[50:01] of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.
[50:03] Second reading.
[50:05] Good evening, mayor and council members.
[50:07] Um, great news today. This buyer was on
[50:10] site to finally begin relocating that
[50:12] 2-in high-pressure man. Um, any
[50:15] questions about our discussion from a
[50:17] couple weeks ago or thoughts since then
[50:19] about the wonderful world underneath our
[50:21] pavement [laughter]
[50:24] >> when you put it that way.
[50:26] >> Okay.
[50:26] >> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,
[50:28] >> I do not. I mean, nothing new to add
[50:31] from the
[50:31] >> Okay, so very good.
[50:32] >> Yeah. Nothing yet.
[50:34] >> Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain
[50:38] a motion,
[50:40] I guess. Do we have a motion on this
[50:41] directly or We do have a motion, right?
[50:44] >> Yeah.
[50:46] >> So, do do we need just reward it to
[50:48] approve this?
[50:48] >> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a
[50:51] motion to approve bill number 3069, etc.
[50:55] I would like to make a motion
[50:56] >> for bill 3069, an ordinance, an
[50:59] ordinance granting an easement to spire
[51:02] for the installation of an underground
[51:03] gas m.
[51:04] >> I second that.
[51:05] >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can
[51:07] we please pull the council?
[51:10] >> Council member Duel.
[51:11] >> Yes.
[51:11] >> Council member Solomonov.
[51:12] >> Yes.
[51:13] >> Council member Clark.
[51:14] >> Yes.
[51:14] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.
[51:16] >> Yes.
[51:16] >> Mayor Lewis.
[51:17] >> Yes.
[51:17] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes
[51:19] ordinance 2839.
[51:21] >> Thank you very much.
[51:22] >> Thank you. Good luck.
[51:25] All right, move on to item 13. Bill
[51:27] 3070. If we could please have the title
[51:29] be read.
[51:34] Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a
[51:36] special permit use for AC Richardson
[51:38] LLC, owners of the property grounds,
[51:40] addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial
[51:42] Court, to permit SSM Health Health
[51:45] Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to
[51:47] operate a 4566qt
[51:50] medical clinic within the tenant space
[51:52] addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive.
[51:54] First reading and public hearing.
[51:56] >> All right. As part of this public
[51:57] hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open
[51:58] up the public hearing for this bill. And
[52:01] good evening, Max.
[52:02] >> Yeah, welcome back.
[52:02] >> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm
[52:04] the director of planning and community
[52:06] development for the city of Alvette. And
[52:07] tonight I'm here to present bill 3070,
[52:10] which is a special permit use request
[52:12] for uh medical offices and clinics at
[52:14] 9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next
[52:17] slide will kind of show the location.
[52:19] It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial
[52:21] Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which
[52:23] is on the lower left hand corner of of
[52:25] the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in
[52:28] there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The
[52:30] building itself which you see the Lshape
[52:32] and the white roof there is roughly
[52:34] 31,596
[52:37] ft. It's a multi-tenant office
[52:38] warehouse. You might be familiar with
[52:40] the uh the the artery is located in
[52:43] there along with uh the USGS uh is
[52:46] located in that facility. Uh the
[52:48] proposed uses of medical office and
[52:49] clinics and since this is light
[52:51] industrial uh medical offices and
[52:53] clinics are identified in the permitted
[52:55] uses but only as a special permit and
[52:58] that is why SSM health cardinal linen is
[53:00] here before you. It's zone L light
[53:02] industrial district and it is authorized
[53:05] uh as a uh special permit use in the LI
[53:08] district. Uh the next slide
[53:11] uh kind of talks about the special
[53:12] permit procedure where we try to uh
[53:16] facilitate and then further our vision
[53:17] and goals with the comprehensive plan
[53:19] which we hope is reflective of our
[53:21] ordinances in the CO district but allows
[53:23] us to look at the potential impact the district itself the comp plan sites
[53:28] uh sustainability the surrounding
[53:30] impacts and then the council rights to
[53:33] buffer uh required from additional
[53:36] improvements and imposed some open space
[53:38] requirements. ments and to uh consider
[53:41] uh some limitations like in hours and things of that nature. It goes to
[53:45] our planning and community design
[53:46] commission for review and a
[53:49] recommendation and then a council holds
[53:50] the public hearing and then considers
[53:52] actions via an ordinance. On the next
[53:55] slide, just a couple of things regarding
[53:57] special permit uses. There are some
[53:58] general conditions that are outlined
[54:00] with our ordinance. Those are that is it
[54:02] listed in the district? Does it further
[54:03] the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the
[54:06] location the parcel suitable for the
[54:08] environment surroundings? Is it
[54:09] complementaryary to the surroundings in
[54:11] the neighborhood and the improvements?
[54:13] Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to
[54:15] any potential spillover effects? And
[54:17] then of course it gives the city the
[54:18] authority to grant buffering designate
[54:20] areas for uh open space limit set
[54:23] limitations on operations implementation
[54:25] schedules meaning like over time they
[54:27] need to do this and consider adequacy of
[54:30] public services. The next slide we'll
[54:32] get into the nuts and bolts. This is a
[54:34] street view of the building facility.
[54:36] They'll be taking that front corner that
[54:37] you see there. It's approximately I I
[54:40] believe it's a little over 4,500 square
[54:42] f feet. We'll get to that specifically
[54:44] uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial
[54:47] Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman
[54:50] Industrial Court is on the left hand
[54:51] side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a
[54:53] short street uh that leads directly to a
[54:55] building that's in the background there.
[54:57] The next slide,
[54:59] this is the the uh just the tenant
[55:02] improvement plans that they're proposing
[55:03] uh that kind of exist in the existing
[55:05] site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I
[55:08] believe. Um they are when you look at it
[55:11] in comparison to the overall building
[55:13] which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000
[55:17] ft². Uh they're a little bit of around
[55:19] an eighth of the whole building uh in
[55:21] there. And you can see the corner area
[55:22] that they'll be taking up their space.
[55:24] It's kind of proportion to the the size
[55:26] on on the uh on the plan. The next slide
[55:32] will identify what are they doing. It's
[55:34] a 4,566
[55:35] square foot outpatient physical therapy
[55:37] clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the
[55:40] clinic provides multiddisciplinary
[55:42] therapy for physical therapy,
[55:44] occupational therapy, and speech therapy
[55:46] at their site. Uh they currently operate
[55:48] in Creve Corore and they're relocating
[55:50] to etc which is great. Uh the next slide
[55:53] uh kind of goes over the commission did
[55:55] review it and they motioned to recommend
[55:58] to the council that the uh council
[55:59] consider and approve authorization of
[56:01] the special permit. They use of course
[56:03] the comprehensive plan, our community
[56:04] goals in their review. Uh we look at the
[56:07] principles for economic development and
[56:09] our comprehensive update goals which is
[56:10] environmental sustainability investment,
[56:13] crime prevention, native plantings and
[56:15] strategic redevelopment. And you can see
[56:17] the check boxes as we go through in
[56:19] there to complete those boxes. Of
[56:21] course, they are asking uh for some
[56:23] additional landscaping along the Dealman
[56:25] Industrial Drive uh component, which is
[56:27] the west side uh when you enter from the
[56:28] stop sign area uh to replace exterior
[56:31] wallpack lights with those compatible
[56:33] with chapter 428, meaning that they're
[56:34] cut off facing down uh and there. And
[56:36] then to limit the hours of operation
[56:38] from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done
[56:40] in collaboration with the petitioner.
[56:42] And the concern was because it's a
[56:44] pediatric facility just to make sure
[56:46] that uh they're not interrupting or um
[56:49] throughout the evening or when we have
[56:51] industrial traffic.
[56:53] On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter
[56:54] a couple of items just for the record.
[56:56] Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,
[56:58] including the 5-year economic
[57:00] development plan, the Alvette municipal
[57:02] code and zoning map, uh, the staff
[57:04] presentation and memorandum that was
[57:06] presented to the planning and community
[57:07] design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,
[57:10] including the petition and supporting
[57:12] plans and documents. Our public hearing
[57:14] notice, this is a public hearing. We
[57:16] were required to post this 15 days prior
[57:18] uh to tonight and that was posted in the county in St. Louis County on August
[57:24] 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the
[57:26] properties that were notified. Uh we did
[57:28] 300 ft which is above and beyond the 185
[57:31] called by code. Uh and then this
[57:33] presentation before the city council.
[57:36] So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any
[57:37] specific questions and then we do have
[57:39] representatives here I'd like to
[57:40] introduce.
[57:41] >> What's what was their current
[57:42] previously? what was who occupied? Uh it
[57:46] was an engineering firm I believe was
[57:48] the last uh firm that was there
[57:50] >> and it they're going to be if you don't
[57:52] mind going back to the uh overlay of the
[57:54] office they're going to be doing
[57:55] outpatient
[57:56] um I guess so patients come in and are
[58:00] seen there or is the expectation but
[58:03] because these are these cubes I guess
[58:05] I'm just wondering where where that
[58:06] occurs
[58:06] >> kind of like shows the internal layout I
[58:08] think there's going to be some changes
[58:09] and modifications I think that's what it
[58:11] looks like right now uh in there so they
[58:13] haven't applied but but yes they do
[58:15] one-on-one therapies with uh individual
[58:17] clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in
[58:20] there, probably a question that can
[58:21] better address than I could on the
[58:23] description.
[58:24] >> Um before we bring them up, other
[58:25] questions people have or
[58:27] >> I had the same question.
[58:28] >> Yeah, I don't have it.
[58:30] >> I had a question on the hours. So,
[58:32] pediatric means all the way through 18,
[58:34] right? So, is the city limiting the
[58:37] hours or is that something that SSM is
[58:39] choosing?
[58:40] >> We talked with SSM about what hours and
[58:42] in there and that was within that range.
[58:44] which I think they they close at 5:30.
[58:46] Something we can check with them again.
[58:48] >> Okay. Okay.
[58:50] >> And then I was just curious, I don't see
[58:51] a landscape plan here yet, but um want
[58:54] to be clear about the area that this
[58:57] business would be working,
[59:00] >> like what part of the parcel they would
[59:02] be working on to improve the landscaping
[59:05] and hopefully get some trees out there
[59:07] and native plants, something other than
[59:09] just the turf. Um, and then also curious
[59:13] if there's going to be any signage on
[59:16] that corner there or that little kind of
[59:20] >> Mhm.
[59:21] >> park that pokes out on the corner.
[59:24] >> Um, if there's any kind of signage that
[59:26] they're
[59:27] >> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,
[59:30] uh, on the right hand side, you'll see
[59:32] Deman Industrial Drive. That's where
[59:34] we're asking for some additional
[59:35] landscaping to be placed in there with
[59:37] 50% of that being native. The one thing
[59:39] along this corner both going north
[59:42] [snorts] you know where I'm when you're
[59:44] looking at that right road you are going
[59:48] north to south uh on the left you're
[59:50] going east to west uh on both portions
[59:54] of the road and you can see some of the the fiber indication there's fiber
[59:57] and underground utilities all running
[59:59] through uh through there where I have
[1:00:02] the most excess of rightway believe it
[1:00:04] or not is going to be on the western
[1:00:06] side this used to be an easement and
[1:00:08] that's where I believe maybe that's why
[1:00:10] there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh
[1:00:12] in place. When the city took over the
[1:00:13] roads, we took over just a significant
[1:00:16] portion. A lot of times the parking
[1:00:18] would have been further back, we would
[1:00:19] have more area for landscaping and and
[1:00:22] things of that nature. So, we're looking
[1:00:23] here on the right hand side as you can
[1:00:25] go uh north to south that they do some
[1:00:28] uh some additional landscaping uh in
[1:00:30] their trees to be careful. probably
[1:00:33] preference would be more ornamental, but
[1:00:35] nothing that's going to be deeprooted
[1:00:36] because they're going to there's
[1:00:38] continue a matter of fact uh there was
[1:00:40] markings uh this morning again that
[1:00:42] somebody's running some type of fiber
[1:00:44] optics or things uh of that nature. So,
[1:00:46] it continuously gets torn out, but we'd
[1:00:49] like to get them more towards uh on the
[1:00:52] western or the eastern part of that hump
[1:00:54] as you see in the the grading uh in
[1:00:57] there to kind of hide some of the
[1:00:58] parking
[1:01:00] in there. We didn't look at the north as
[1:01:02] they're kind of more facing towards
[1:01:04] Olive uh in there. But again, I know I
[1:01:06] have a lot of uh
[1:01:09] utility stuff that runs uh underneath
[1:01:11] and the sidewalk kind of extends more
[1:01:13] along that area uh in there, but it
[1:01:15] could be discussion we can have with the
[1:01:17] property owner. In terms of signage, no
[1:01:19] signage has been proposed.
[1:01:20] Traditionally, the signage has been uh
[1:01:22] on the wall in there. I anticipate that
[1:01:25] they will continue to do so. I know
[1:01:27] ImageNet, which is also located on that
[1:01:29] building at the far uh left end uh which
[1:01:33] would be the eastern end of the building
[1:01:35] does have a monument sign at that back
[1:01:36] corner. So if they do another one, they
[1:01:39] have to place it uh towards the other
[1:01:42] apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate
[1:01:44] anything towards the front.
[1:01:46] >> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,
[1:01:50] obviously to increase our environmental
[1:01:52] sustainability and to have plantings
[1:01:54] along that um area as much as possible
[1:01:58] that not only are good for the
[1:02:00] environment but can also provide shade
[1:02:02] um and reduce the heat on that um
[1:02:05] asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the
[1:02:09] other piece with Oh, and safety as well
[1:02:12] because you're going to have kids in
[1:02:14] that parking lot and obviously it's
[1:02:15] worst case scenario thinking that
[1:02:17] somebody's jump going to jump the curb
[1:02:18] and go over, you know, that's obviously
[1:02:20] worst case scenario, but any buffer
[1:02:22] >> uh that we can put in there is a good
[1:02:24] one. Um, and the same concern with
[1:02:26] safety for signage. Um just so that when
[1:02:29] we've got parents who are looking for
[1:02:31] the facility that it's clear and we
[1:02:33] don't have kind of that driving around
[1:02:36] trying to find it because it is you know
[1:02:38] somewhat tucked down um
[1:02:42] back behind there just so that it's it's
[1:02:44] clearly clearly seen and visible um for
[1:02:47] your visitors for your patients and
[1:02:49] their families.
[1:02:50] >> It's something we can look at and
[1:02:52] discuss with it. And again, I just want
[1:02:53] to be clear in terms of the the two on
[1:02:57] the first comp component of that, the
[1:02:58] sustainability aspect as we're looking
[1:03:01] at some of the the plantings and the
[1:03:03] native species, the concern would be on
[1:03:05] the trees being too too big in there
[1:03:07] because of the
[1:03:09] >> uh because of the utilities that run on
[1:03:12] that north side. Now, right here where
[1:03:14] the bench is set, there is more depth
[1:03:16] and I think it's the parking stall
[1:03:17] length and we can talk with them if
[1:03:19] that's an area that they could do more
[1:03:20] of the shade aspect of it as opposed to
[1:03:23] the decorative part component of it.
[1:03:25] >> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes
[1:03:26] or something that it would help and put
[1:03:29] that barrier
[1:03:30] >> is the you know the white and orange
[1:03:32] pole that you can see in the front of
[1:03:35] the picture but then also on that right
[1:03:37] side there is that the marking for the
[1:03:39] fiber optic cable
[1:03:40] >> one of the companies
[1:03:42] >> I would assume it doesn't represent all
[1:03:44] of the companies and then you can see
[1:03:45] the little square in there represents
[1:03:47] somebody's vault
[1:03:49] >> to get in in that space. So is the idea
[1:03:52] being though that the general location
[1:03:54] of those lines is approximately on the
[1:03:57] right side approximately the same as
[1:04:00] what we can see in the in the foreground
[1:04:02] of the image
[1:04:03] >> at least for the ones that are marked.
[1:04:04] Yes.
[1:04:04] >> Okay.
[1:04:06] >> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually
[1:04:08] about 2 feet below below grade which is
[1:04:11] not much when you kind of think about
[1:04:12] it.
[1:04:15] Okay.
[1:04:15] >> Why don't we bring the petitioner?
[1:04:19] you ask questions.
[1:04:28] » How are you?
[1:04:29] >> Good. Hello.
[1:04:30] >> My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional
[1:04:32] director for um SSM Health Cardinal
[1:04:34] Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you
[1:04:36] for letting us be here today.
[1:04:39] >> Happy to answer any questions.
[1:04:41] >> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president
[1:04:43] of operations for the company.
[1:04:45] >> Um yeah, I think the question we had is
[1:04:46] just the layout. it patients will be
[1:04:49] seen in there and
[1:04:50] >> is it is it just kind of open like your
[1:04:52] counseling so it is cubes or is it
[1:04:54] actually like private facility or how
[1:04:56] what what kind of things you know are
[1:04:58] happening usually
[1:04:58] >> there'll be an open space like a gym for
[1:05:01] more like physical therapy but we we'll
[1:05:04] probably have I mean I would say seven
[1:05:07] or eight individual treatment rooms that
[1:05:09] are more where speech therapists would
[1:05:11] work with individual patient
[1:05:14] >> so this is not necessarily what the
[1:05:15] layout
[1:05:15] >> this is this is what it looks like now
[1:05:17] we to do something different with it.
[1:05:20] Um, so where there'd be, you know,
[1:05:22] individual treatment rooms, again,
[1:05:24] they're not big, but they're
[1:05:25] >> Yeah,
[1:05:27] and there Yep.
[1:05:28] >> The treatment rooms will be around the
[1:05:30] perimeter and the gym space would be in
[1:05:31] the middle.
[1:05:32] >> Okay. For actual PT itself and things
[1:05:34] like that.
[1:05:35] >> Yep.
[1:05:35] >> Okay.
[1:05:36] >> Will it be possible to have uh the
[1:05:39] drawing of how how you envision this?
[1:05:41] it. I think it's just very helpful for
[1:05:43] us to actually have the drawing in front
[1:05:45] of us as opposed to each of our brains
[1:05:48] kind of thinking what it might look
[1:05:50] like.
[1:05:50] >> I have I have we have a clinic that's
[1:05:53] very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza
[1:05:56] and I have that drawing that I can share
[1:05:58] with you that we will use that that kind
[1:06:02] of design for this space. So I can I
[1:06:05] would be would love to share that with
[1:06:06] you. bring that for the second reading
[1:06:07] or for Carla M the Trey House has
[1:06:09] probably forward it to us
[1:06:11] >> and this is eventually going to go to
[1:06:13] planning and zoning once if this is
[1:06:16] approved and then they'll have the full
[1:06:19] sets of drawings and landscape plans and
[1:06:22] things like that. Is that correct?
[1:06:24] >> No.
[1:06:26] >> Oh yeah. I want to see it now.
[1:06:28] >> No, it would be more regarding the use
[1:06:29] and the the operations of the use. The improvements would be internal uh in
[1:06:34] there. So that generally that would go
[1:06:36] back to the commission for for review.
[1:06:38] Uh there was a code and the the number
[1:06:40] of exits and the use is going to dictate
[1:06:42] what how that space
[1:06:44] >> how people geointer currently is not
[1:06:46] necessarily our
[1:06:47] >> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the
[1:06:48] commissioner was comfortable with it
[1:06:49] administratively you know that as long
[1:06:51] as they submit some type of landscaping
[1:06:53] uh in there and then set the condition
[1:06:56] of the 50% native.
[1:06:57] >> Yes.
[1:06:57] >> Uh in there gives us the guidance of
[1:06:59] what they're looking for. Okay, I
[1:07:01] understand.
[1:07:02] >> And that just be helpful if you send an
[1:07:03] example just so we can, you know,
[1:07:05] visualize it. Appreciate it.
[1:07:07] >> Like before the second, you' like
[1:07:09] >> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward
[1:07:10] it to us and then we'll have it before
[1:07:11] the second and just helps us visual.
[1:07:13] Again, it's your internal not ours. But,
[1:07:15] uh, just that's where I was struggling.
[1:07:17] I'm like, I don't understand.
[1:07:18] >> What is it? You know,
[1:07:20] >> hey, I'm like, it's your your your
[1:07:22] business,
[1:07:23] >> you know.
[1:07:23] >> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having
[1:07:25] that information, you know, I know you have presented this to the PCDC a
[1:07:30] few months ago. Um, and so like the the
[1:07:33] understanding that for a landscaping
[1:07:35] plan has been kind of out there for a
[1:07:37] little bit. So it would be nice to see
[1:07:39] some movement towards getting a clearer
[1:07:41] sense of what that is as well as what
[1:07:44] your layout internally is before the
[1:07:47] second reading.
[1:07:48] >> Okay.
[1:07:48] >> So that we're really clear on what what
[1:07:50] we're approving. Um,
[1:07:52] >> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my
[1:07:54] hesitancy is not anything about this
[1:07:56] business or anything. I'm I think it's a
[1:07:58] good use. I think it's
[1:08:00] >> um great uh to have this here and all of
[1:08:03] it. And I'd like to have a clear sense
[1:08:05] of what we're approving before we
[1:08:07] approve it.
[1:08:08] >> Sure.
[1:08:10] >> All right. Thank you very much.
[1:08:12] Appreciate it.
[1:08:13] >> Happy to be here. Thank you.
[1:08:14] >> Did you have
[1:08:15] >> Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew
[1:08:18] Clary with Intel. I work with the
[1:08:21] landlord on this building. I just had a quick comment question on the the
[1:08:27] conditions of the landscaping. Um, so
[1:08:29] Carlos mentioned there's some fiber
[1:08:31] optic optic cables that run on the
[1:08:34] inside or just on the outside of the
[1:08:36] sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very
[1:08:39] similar one just on the other side. You
[1:08:41] can't see it, but it's right there in
[1:08:43] front of a manhole. Um, would it be
[1:08:46] beneficial at all if we did more
[1:08:48] landscaping right where that park bench
[1:08:50] is
[1:08:51] instead of along the the western
[1:08:54] barrier?
[1:08:56] My view is more landscaping anywhere is
[1:08:58] good. Like so as many native or this
[1:09:02] council is generally I won't speak for
[1:09:03] everyone but it's generally in favor of
[1:09:04] native plants and beautifying and just
[1:09:06] adding sustainability. So um there's
[1:09:08] many many ways to attack that. So I
[1:09:10] think um yeah, we have to be sensitive
[1:09:12] to the cabling and not get in the way of
[1:09:14] utilities and trees and things like
[1:09:16] that. So we're not in any way saying,
[1:09:17] "Oh, no, just put trees everywhere."
[1:09:18] It's what are the best use of native
[1:09:20] plants sustainability that are
[1:09:22] aesthetically looking that are good
[1:09:24] maintenance, you know, and see and and I
[1:09:27] think it's just seeing what would look
[1:09:28] like.
[1:09:28] >> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple
[1:09:31] thoughts on what we were planning on
[1:09:32] doing to this building. So it's it's
[1:09:34] been under a new owner since about
[1:09:36] October. Um, the building, I don't know
[1:09:38] if you've driven by it frequently, but
[1:09:40] it looks very tired on the outside. So,
[1:09:43] the signage is all mismatched. Festive
[1:09:45] is is on that corner. Their signs about
[1:09:47] this big, literally. Um, and so we're
[1:09:50] trying to make the signage consistent.
[1:09:52] We trying to make it prettier, channel
[1:09:54] cut lettering if available. Um, repaint
[1:09:56] the exterior of the building. We were
[1:09:58] welcoming the light improvements. Um, we
[1:10:00] were planning on doing that anyway. Uh,
[1:10:03] and so I was trying to get to an
[1:10:06] understanding of is it more
[1:10:07] beautifification or is it more safety
[1:10:10] barrier now that you have a better
[1:10:12] understanding of their hours of
[1:10:13] operation or is it a little bit of both?
[1:10:15] Because I could probably do more
[1:10:17] landscaping
[1:10:19] near the park bench, more in front of
[1:10:22] the building. I guess what I'm getting
[1:10:23] at is I want to create the barrier. I
[1:10:26] want it to be pretty. I don't I I would
[1:10:27] love to not do too much because we're
[1:10:29] going to make the building look a lot
[1:10:30] nicer and I would hate for it to be
[1:10:32] obuscated
[1:10:33] >> if we have hedges grow too tall. But
[1:10:36] I'll you know
[1:10:37] >> that's nice to have not
[1:10:38] >> at least from my perspective with the
[1:10:40] landscaping you know it's it's
[1:10:42] addressing sustainability and aesthetic
[1:10:45] purposes. Okay.
[1:10:46] >> Um but with the sustainability piece you
[1:10:48] know trees provide benefits a multitude
[1:10:51] of benefits. storm water control,
[1:10:53] cooling, um biodiversity,
[1:10:57] uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So,
[1:11:00] and trees give you the biggest bang for
[1:11:03] your buck over time.
[1:11:04] >> Mhm.
[1:11:05] >> Low low maintenance generally too.
[1:11:07] >> That is and it it is a triple net
[1:11:09] building and so increasing the
[1:11:10] maintenance cost does get passed back to
[1:11:12] the tenants and
[1:11:13] >> Yeah.
[1:11:14] >> So, trying to find that happy medium.
[1:11:16] >> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not
[1:11:18] a dictative. It's just a anywhere we
[1:11:21] can, especially when we're approving new
[1:11:22] things, we're saying let's continue
[1:11:24] sustainability goals. I'm less concerned
[1:11:25] about the safety. It's always a nice
[1:11:26] thing, but at least there is also a
[1:11:28] ridge up, which is nice. It's a very
[1:11:30] large area versus just a curb.
[1:11:32] >> Um, but yeah, I think we just like to
[1:11:34] see us continuing to grow and get more
[1:11:36] sustainable. So, but to your point,
[1:11:38] >> you don't want to block the signage
[1:11:39] you're going to put up either. It's a
[1:11:40] balance.
[1:11:41] >> Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same
[1:11:42] page. we'll get you something has a
[1:11:44] really good sense of I think of
[1:11:46] >> what we're
[1:11:47] >> we've had these conversations in
[1:11:48] multiple forms. So, um I think he's
[1:11:51] probably well equipped to advise on
[1:11:53] that.
[1:11:54] >> He has been you guys have always been
[1:11:55] very helpful too. So,
[1:11:56] >> what what color are you going to paint
[1:11:58] the building?
[1:11:58] >> That's a good question. Um
[1:12:02] >> and are you going to paint? It looks
[1:12:03] like there's masonry.
[1:12:05] >> No, right now our our thought was just
[1:12:07] the facade. Um but it's it's a it's
[1:12:11] barely a thought. Are you are you
[1:12:13] familiar with what they did with the
[1:12:14] cone elevator building just a little bit
[1:12:16] further down?
[1:12:17] >> No.
[1:12:17] >> It's probably it's right next to Stone
[1:12:19] Fabricators and PK Construction, but if
[1:12:22] you look at the before and after of what
[1:12:23] they did, they painted it white and blue
[1:12:25] accents. It looks incredible. So, it's something that would be tasteful
[1:12:30] and nice and and not obnoxious, but if you go go look at it sometime this
[1:12:36] week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's
[1:12:37] just there's a light that's it just
[1:12:39] needs to be needs to be redone. So,
[1:12:42] >> if you can kind of describe what that's
[1:12:44] going to be, you know, what color, what what you guys decide before the
[1:12:48] next reading, that would be great, too.
[1:12:50] >> Yeah, we'll try and um put something
[1:12:52] together like that along with a
[1:12:53] landscaping plan.
[1:12:55] >> I could be wrong. These they're not
[1:12:56] necessarily tied together, right?
[1:12:58] Because we're talking you're talking
[1:12:59] about the entire building versus just
[1:13:00] this. So, good point.
[1:13:02] >> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the
[1:13:03] PNC.
[1:13:03] >> I don't want to stop this or makes
[1:13:05] sense.
[1:13:05] >> Let's do both. Yeah,
[1:13:07] >> I don't I don't want to encumber that or
[1:13:09] but I just wanted to let you know of our
[1:13:11] plans anyway.
[1:13:11] >> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I
[1:13:12] appreciate the unification. So,
[1:13:14] >> of course.
[1:13:15] >> Cool. All right.
[1:13:16] >> Thank you.
[1:13:17] Other public comments?
[1:13:20] >> No. All right. Anyone online?
[1:13:24] Anything else from the council?
[1:13:26] >> No.
[1:13:27] >> All right. We will go ahead and close
[1:13:29] the public hearing then and then there
[1:13:31] will be a second reading of this bill on
[1:13:33] September 8th. Thank you very much for
[1:13:35] coming. Appreciate it.
[1:13:36] >> Thank you.
[1:13:38] >> All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill
[1:13:42] 3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title
[1:13:44] to be read.
[1:13:46] Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a
[1:13:49] special permit use for New Blueprint
[1:13:50] Partners LLC, owners of the property
[1:13:53] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price
[1:13:55] Road to permit AIM field hockey to
[1:13:57] operate a 6,614
[1:13:59] square foot enclosed recreational use
[1:14:02] within the tenants space addressed as
[1:14:03] 1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First
[1:14:05] reading and public hearing.
[1:14:06] >> All right, I will go ahead and open the
[1:14:08] public hearing as well and another great
[1:14:10] presentation.
[1:14:11] >> Good evening, mayor. And just for the
[1:14:12] record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the
[1:14:14] director of planning and community
[1:14:15] development for the city of Alvette. And
[1:14:17] tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071
[1:14:20] which is a special permit request for an
[1:14:23] enclosed recreational use at 1220 North
[1:14:25] Price Road uh suite number four uh in
[1:14:28] that building. That is the same building
[1:14:30] where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on
[1:14:33] the northern end and underneath Pedell
[1:14:35] and Pickle is actually uh u
[1:14:39] beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm
[1:14:42] sorry I can think of the name. And then
[1:14:43] right in the middle you have uh uh
[1:14:45] door.com
[1:14:47] uh that that's located uh that kind of
[1:14:49] wraps. And then this is a little corner
[1:14:51] piece that I'll show you more
[1:14:52] specifically in a second. So if you go
[1:14:54] to the next slide, it is an old uh an
[1:14:57] older building that was built uh I
[1:14:58] believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put
[1:15:00] the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre
[1:15:03] lot with 134,000
[1:15:05] uh square foot uh was considered of
[1:15:08] office manufacturing, warehousing, and
[1:15:10] distilling uh that took place at one
[1:15:12] time. Now we have uh recreational use
[1:15:14] with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with
[1:15:17] auto beauty specialists and then some
[1:15:19] distribution and offices with locked uh
[1:15:21] with uh lock.com
[1:15:24] or door.com uh on the site. the there's
[1:15:28] one more piece uh of the building that
[1:15:30] is up for lease uh and it's roughly
[1:15:33] about 6,700 square ft² and that's where
[1:15:35] you see the orange door there at the
[1:15:37] lower right hand corner uh is where
[1:15:39] they're looking to take a a piece of
[1:15:42] that. It's very oddly configured because
[1:15:44] over time as that property was improved
[1:15:47] they they did it in phases and pieces uh
[1:15:49] in there and of course it was the old
[1:15:50] Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was
[1:15:53] operating on that site. property grounds
[1:15:55] are zone LI light industrial district
[1:15:58] and enclosed recreational uses and
[1:16:00] outdoor recreational uses are permitted
[1:16:02] uses in the LI district but subject to a
[1:16:05] special permit meaning they're not
[1:16:06] industrial but they can be compatible
[1:16:08] with a lot of the industrial uses that
[1:16:09] we have there and of course I noted we
[1:16:11] have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh
[1:16:13] just to the left of it you had the
[1:16:15] bridge uh facility um in there and then
[1:16:18] we used to have the old town in tennis
[1:16:19] just down the block uh not too far from
[1:16:21] where SSM was looking at the next slide
[1:16:25] We have a procedure for special permit
[1:16:27] requests. It's a recommend review and
[1:16:29] recommendation by the council by the
[1:16:31] commission. Uh they forward that to the
[1:16:33] council which holds a public hearing and
[1:16:35] then has a action via an ordinance
[1:16:38] special permit process. We have a
[1:16:39] procedure that's outlined within our
[1:16:41] ordinance that looks about looks at the
[1:16:43] impact to it to limitations. Uh but
[1:16:46] always, you know, trying to see how we
[1:16:47] can further our comprehensive plan uh
[1:16:49] goals and updates. And I'm sorry about
[1:16:51] the lower left hand that should have
[1:16:53] been LI district uh in there on that
[1:16:55] side. The next slide will kind of talk
[1:16:57] about general conditions of a special
[1:16:58] permit. So what do we do is that we make
[1:17:01] sure it's listed in the district that it
[1:17:02] first to go a comprehensive plan that
[1:17:05] the location is suitable to the
[1:17:06] environment and surroundings. Sometimes
[1:17:07] it could be doing topography some
[1:17:10] natural features is is the property flat
[1:17:12] is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh
[1:17:15] are the improvements complimentary to
[1:17:17] the neighboring uses? Did they
[1:17:19] demonstrate that they're mitigating any
[1:17:21] spillover effects that would adversely
[1:17:23] impact the addition properties? And then
[1:17:25] of course the city has the authority to
[1:17:27] require whether buffering aesthetic
[1:17:29] enhancements, designate areas for open
[1:17:31] space, set limitations on operations,
[1:17:33] implement a schedule and that is you
[1:17:35] know requiring things to happen over a
[1:17:37] certain amount of time and consider
[1:17:39] adequacy of public services such as fire
[1:17:43] uh medical police type of services. The
[1:17:45] next slide we'll get into the nuts and
[1:17:46] bolts. This is a corner of the building.
[1:17:48] Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's
[1:17:51] a big building. Um, they're taking this
[1:17:55] uh kind of uh front view here where the
[1:17:58] orange door is, but not the whole thing.
[1:18:00] It's just the on the left hand side, the first two uh components where you
[1:18:05] see the vertical uh things right there
[1:18:08] and then it kind of L-shapes and goes
[1:18:10] back. So, you actually enter the
[1:18:12] building uh from from that gap between
[1:18:15] where the cursor is and to the far left
[1:18:19] uh in there. There's a little cove
[1:18:20] that's a little bit further back. Thank
[1:18:22] you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the
[1:18:24] enter entrance is. And I'll show you a
[1:18:26] little bit more when we get into the
[1:18:27] aerial view. The next slide will kind of
[1:18:30] show how that is set up. And again, uh
[1:18:33] sorry, I'm using white on the white
[1:18:35] background. Uh, but you can see this
[1:18:36] L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto
[1:18:39] the 134,000 foot building. You can see
[1:18:42] that cove area in that cove area on the
[1:18:44] lefth hand side is the layout. There's a
[1:18:47] 66
[1:18:48] uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint
[1:18:52] for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey
[1:18:56] projects facility. Who is your your
[1:18:58] petitioner? The next slide.
[1:19:02] What is being proposed? The operations
[1:19:04] are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor
[1:19:06] field hockey practice facility. In this
[1:19:09] facility, the operations will include
[1:19:10] training, one-on-one coaching, office
[1:19:13] operations, and then video productions
[1:19:15] that they use for uh uh for promoting
[1:19:17] purposes for the uh for the individual
[1:19:19] athletes uh for schools and and things
[1:19:21] of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we
[1:19:25] go through the PCDC, they went and they
[1:19:27] reviewed it. Again they have a process
[1:19:29] to review it in accordance with uh our
[1:19:31] ordinance in special permit uses and
[1:19:33] then also our comprehensive plan. Uh
[1:19:35] when you look at economic development
[1:19:37] and investment, it also has its own
[1:19:39] specific goals about environmental
[1:19:41] sustainability, investment, crime
[1:19:42] prevention, uh native plantings and
[1:19:45] strategic redevelopment. So in their
[1:19:47] review, the commission uh motioned that
[1:19:49] the council consider authorizing the
[1:19:51] special permit through this ordinance.
[1:19:53] However, they also laid out the
[1:19:54] following conditions. One is to limit
[1:19:56] the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m.
[1:19:58] to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,
[1:20:00] that was a discussion with the
[1:20:01] petitioner of what their operating hours
[1:20:03] would be. Uh, and there uh to replace
[1:20:05] the exterior wallpack lights with uh
[1:20:07] those that are cut off and facing down
[1:20:09] compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree
[1:20:12] health assessment and replacement plan
[1:20:14] with 50% of those being native. There
[1:20:16] was several trees along the perimeter of
[1:20:18] the the the site as itself. you know,
[1:20:20] different differentiating it from the
[1:20:22] petitioner here. Uh, and there and some
[1:20:25] of them had been cut down and some of
[1:20:26] them uh seemed like they they were not
[1:20:29] as healthy. And then to replace some of
[1:20:31] the deteriorated fencing sections uh
[1:20:33] that were on the uh south side of the
[1:20:37] property uh uh in there the next slide,
[1:20:40] mayor, if I can just enter a couple of
[1:20:42] items into the record. Uh, one is our
[1:20:44] 2024 comprehensive plan update,
[1:20:46] including our 5-year economic
[1:20:47] development plan, the Olivette municipal
[1:20:49] code and zoning map, the staff
[1:20:51] presentation and memorandum presented to
[1:20:52] the planning and community design
[1:20:54] commission dated July 23rd, 2026,
[1:20:57] including the petition and supporting
[1:20:58] plans and documents. The public hearing
[1:21:00] notice, of course, this is a public
[1:21:02] hearing. We're required to post this in
[1:21:04] the county and St. Louis County. It was
[1:21:06] published on August 10th, 2026. And then
[1:21:08] you have a list of the properties that
[1:21:09] were identified or notified uh regarding
[1:21:12] that twice. Uh they get a postcard
[1:21:14] before it goes to the commission and
[1:21:16] then they also get a public hearing
[1:21:18] notice uh prior to our meeting here at
[1:21:20] council and then the presentation before
[1:21:22] council dated August 25th, 2026. I do
[1:21:25] have representatives here in attendance,
[1:21:27] but I'd like be glad to answer uh
[1:21:29] specific questions about the building
[1:21:30] and the operations.
[1:21:32] >> I have questions mostly for the
[1:21:33] petitioner. So before we bring them up,
[1:21:35] anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.
[1:21:38] >> Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took
[1:21:39] lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to
[1:21:41] see the parking lot when they're when
[1:21:43] it's gets a little bit busier.
[1:21:45] >> It does it just want to make sure that
[1:21:47] there are enough spots for all the
[1:21:48] tenants if this goes through. Especially
[1:21:51] if you know there's a team or a couple
[1:21:53] of teams practicing, everyone drives in
[1:21:55] their own cars.
[1:21:57] >> End up with an extra with an extra 30
[1:21:59] cars. [snorts]
[1:22:00] >> Would that be enough space? And if not,
[1:22:02] where would the overflow be?
[1:22:04] >> Well, good question. Uh if you we can go
[1:22:07] back to the aerial. I think it's about
[1:22:09] uh three on on this site. Well, one
[1:22:14] uh on this site. So you can see um
[1:22:17] there's that center parking uh in in
[1:22:20] that area primarily used by by lock uh
[1:22:23] door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and
[1:22:26] pickle uses part of that and then they
[1:22:28] uh expanded their have the uh the
[1:22:30] parking facility there on the lower left
[1:22:33] corner uh in there. and you see that aisle in there. Uh they've always
[1:22:37] wanted to expand in that green space,
[1:22:39] but then that would trigger MSD review
[1:22:41] and and storm water. So, there's always
[1:22:42] that caveat that we have available
[1:22:44] there. But then there's some additional
[1:22:46] parking on the far right end of the
[1:22:48] building uh in there. It's kind of
[1:22:50] separate and independent, but they also
[1:22:52] operate this. Yes.
[1:22:54] >> To the f Okay,
[1:22:56] >> that that area where the cursor is at.
[1:22:58] >> Would would that be another entrance or
[1:23:00] would people have to walk around?
[1:23:01] >> They would have to walk around. They're not in the way the in the
[1:23:06] original building everything was all
[1:23:07] within within [snorts] reach. Now that
[1:23:09] things have been separated, yes, the
[1:23:11] parking is all kind of uh disassociated
[1:23:13] with the with the spaces.
[1:23:16] >> But it's always a good question. I mean,
[1:23:18] I always hear, you know, that's a lot of
[1:23:20] parking. You know, do do they really
[1:23:22] need all that surface area? And you try
[1:23:24] to balance that. Do they really have
[1:23:25] enough parking uh in there? You know,
[1:23:28] from a planning perspective, there are
[1:23:30] in our code, there are some some
[1:23:32] minimums. We go by minimums uh in there
[1:23:35] that they have to have a minimum amount
[1:23:36] based on the type of activity that takes
[1:23:39] place. For recreational uses, it's based
[1:23:40] on square footage. There's a simple
[1:23:42] calculation that we use to calculate
[1:23:44] that. For the office, it's based on on a
[1:23:47] similar weight. Uh but then they're in a
[1:23:50] match. And then our code allows us to
[1:23:52] provide some overlap. So if this use
[1:23:54] needs this much parking, this use need
[1:23:56] needs this much parking, this use needs
[1:23:57] this much parking, you can have some
[1:23:59] overlap that that some may come in at
[1:24:01] night, some may come in during the day
[1:24:03] um in there. So it allows for that
[1:24:05] process in there to help try to balance
[1:24:07] it uh in there. But again, it's, you
[1:24:11] know, from a professional view, it's
[1:24:13] like I think if if people are unhappy with
[1:24:18] the parking, they're going to go
[1:24:20] somewhere else to find a better facility
[1:24:21] that can accommodate them. And it
[1:24:23] impacts the user in there. We want to
[1:24:24] keep these uses viable. We want to keep
[1:24:27] our residents and and and the region
[1:24:29] coming to our our our location uh in
[1:24:32] there, but this is a fine balance as
[1:24:34] opposed to having over parking. We had
[1:24:36] the conversation when uh Murthy Health
[1:24:38] Systems was looking at the pharmacy and
[1:24:40] we were asking can we get rid of parking
[1:24:42] spaces uh back there and it's tough
[1:24:46] >> for this area specifically. I just want
[1:24:47] to make sure people are not parking
[1:24:48] along the road or something like that.
[1:24:50] So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if
[1:24:52] we have that lot in the back.
[1:24:55] >> But a good question. I mean it's it's
[1:24:57] one of the things we struggle with and
[1:24:59] finding that right mix, right balance.
[1:25:00] Mhm.
[1:25:01] >> Um, related to parking, I'm interested
[1:25:04] in kind of hearing your perspective on
[1:25:06] the traffic flow on this lot. Just
[1:25:08] recognizing that it has kind of an
[1:25:10] unusual
[1:25:12] setup with the two entrances. Um, you
[1:25:15] know, it's not a cir circle drive, but
[1:25:18] you know, kind of coming in from both
[1:25:20] sides. And then the extended part that
[1:25:23] I'm assuming when this was more serving
[1:25:26] an industrial purpose um was set up for
[1:25:30] truck loading and unloading. Um and I
[1:25:34] guess I'm just I'm curious in this
[1:25:37] parcel recognizing how the uses have
[1:25:40] shifted um pretty significantly. Um,
[1:25:44] other than Door, perhaps Door still uses
[1:25:47] the larger trucks for uh deliveries and
[1:25:51] loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd
[1:25:53] be curious to know um if this current
[1:25:56] traffic configuration
[1:26:00] is
[1:26:01] the best um
[1:26:04] use of that space
[1:26:07] um and or the safest use recognizing
[1:26:11] that you know for field hockey you'll
[1:26:13] have parents driving but you my guess
[1:26:15] [clears throat] is potentially some of
[1:26:16] the clients will be uh older
[1:26:20] kids young adults who are driving
[1:26:22] themselves and aren't necessarily known
[1:26:24] for being the best drivers. Um, and
[1:26:28] trying to trying to make that that
[1:26:31] particular area work in a way that um
[1:26:36] it seems a little the setup as it is now
[1:26:39] is a little odd for the uses that are
[1:26:41] being
[1:26:42] >> No, it's a very good question.
[1:26:43] >> Those buildings
[1:26:45] >> in there a good question uh just on the
[1:26:49] timing on on here. So, and and this is why it's a special permit. I
[1:26:55] mean, we have seen our industrial parks.
[1:26:58] There's not much industrial going on in
[1:27:00] those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen
[1:27:04] the the the the road and all that. This
[1:27:07] used to be all private. So, those dock
[1:27:09] doors all worked uh in there because
[1:27:11] they were not under our jurisdiction uh
[1:27:14] and in place. Now, we've taken up those
[1:27:16] spaces in there. And these buildings
[1:27:18] still are industrial buildings trying to
[1:27:21] be retrofitted for uses that that were
[1:27:24] or you know that that were not designed
[1:27:27] or or built. And that's why we go
[1:27:29] through these processes. You know, this
[1:27:31] is the third time that I've been here
[1:27:33] just for this building. You know, we did
[1:27:35] that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it
[1:27:36] for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath
[1:27:40] uh in there and then now we're doing it
[1:27:41] for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there.
[1:27:45] You know, I couldn't give you a straight
[1:27:47] answer of is this, you know,
[1:27:49] professionally, is this the ideal
[1:27:51] parking configuration? No. No, it's not.
[1:27:54] This is what what I have to work with
[1:27:56] and what how it's put in place. uh
[1:27:58] things that would I would would be ideal
[1:28:01] for that parking is to make it more
[1:28:03] uniform and and uh
[1:28:07] you know uh polygono or or so but then
[1:28:11] it triggers things because then you get
[1:28:13] rid of that green space and then MSD
[1:28:15] gets involved in all that and then the
[1:28:16] cost of trying to retrofit these
[1:28:18] buildings becomes more difficult um uh
[1:28:21] in there. I think it's something we have
[1:28:24] to kind of look over time uh in there.
[1:28:28] We I'm not aware that that there's been
[1:28:30] any incidents uh in the spaces, but we
[1:28:32] only have three of the four tenants in there right now. Uh with uh auto
[1:28:37] beauty, that's solely storage and those
[1:28:39] are moved from just kind of back and
[1:28:40] forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle,
[1:28:44] you know, I know they have their their operation their times kind
[1:28:48] of fluctuate over time and it's just
[1:28:50] going to be kind of looking at how that
[1:28:51] mixture works between the two. The only
[1:28:53] constant is Door.com. We know who's
[1:28:56] there during during the regular hours
[1:28:57] and then when when they leave uh in
[1:29:00] there, it could be something that we
[1:29:01] could look at, you know, how are the
[1:29:02] hours of operating working with with
[1:29:04] that over time. uh or you know talk
[1:29:08] about how do we get more connectivity uh
[1:29:10] with some of the other spots in there
[1:29:12] depends on when I go out there you know
[1:29:14] it's full and you can see uh to the left
[1:29:17] on on the on the slide you know all that
[1:29:20] parking right there is bridge uh in
[1:29:24] there and it was like when we were going
[1:29:26] through that we didn't anticipate you
[1:29:27] know that volume um in that place but
[1:29:30] we've been fortunate that the mix of
[1:29:32] that building has been you know kind of
[1:29:33] balances pretty well you don't go there
[1:29:36] during the bridge time, you're going to
[1:29:37] get pretty good parking. If it's during
[1:29:38] bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're
[1:29:40] kind of moving around trying to find a
[1:29:41] space in there, but then they have a
[1:29:43] similar pattern where the parking wraps
[1:29:45] around the building and then there's a
[1:29:47] whole another field on the north side uh
[1:29:49] of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough
[1:29:52] spots. It certainly does meet our code.
[1:29:54] Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.
[1:29:58] It it isn't. But I think we have to see
[1:30:00] how we, you know, how these buildings
[1:30:02] kind of transition and how this parking
[1:30:04] kind of works over time.
[1:30:07] >> What the current hours for paddle and
[1:30:09] pickle? Do you happen to know?
[1:30:12] >> Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have
[1:30:14] an early start like 6:00 a.m.
[1:30:19] » And paddle pickles where on here with
[1:30:21] the curses are
[1:30:22] >> Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there.
[1:30:25] >> Okay. Thank you.
[1:30:26] >> And they do actually use a parking lot.
[1:30:28] That's where that blue truck, blue roof
[1:30:31] >> right in that area.
[1:30:32] >> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking
[1:30:34] too. Like
[1:30:35] >> an old old picture then.
[1:30:37] >> It's I don't know that it's marked right
[1:30:39] now, but people just park there in a row
[1:30:41] and it's pretty organized.
[1:30:43] >> Oh, okay.
[1:30:44] >> I've seen it many times.
[1:30:46] >> How crowded is it when you're if you've
[1:30:48] been there?
[1:30:50] >> I think I mean from what I've seen, they
[1:30:52] only take up that wider part of the
[1:30:54] parking. They don't even end up much on
[1:30:56] the pavement.
[1:30:58] So,
[1:30:58] >> okay.
[1:30:59] >> So, it sounds like it there should be
[1:31:01] room.
[1:31:02] >> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other
[1:31:03] parking lot on the far right, I mean,
[1:31:05] that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I
[1:31:08] imagine it's also by hour times things
[1:31:11] make difference
[1:31:11] >> because I love this reuse.
[1:31:14] >> Yeah. It's exciting
[1:31:15] >> to these types of
[1:31:18] >> and it draws people. They want to get
[1:31:19] dinner afterwards. They want to do
[1:31:21] things like that. It's great
[1:31:22] >> and it's unique to the community, right?
[1:31:24] >> It's it's a great
[1:31:27] bring up the petitioner. So I have just
[1:31:28] random questions. I'm curious more
[1:31:30] curiosity questions. So like
[1:31:37] » evening. Thank you guys so much for your
[1:31:39] time with this and consideration. I'm
[1:31:40] Lauren Kornweight, the founder and
[1:31:42] director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been
[1:31:44] at this for 20 years and have a vision
[1:31:46] for for the next step. So
[1:31:49] >> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a
[1:31:51] representative for Lauren and the real
[1:31:52] estate.
[1:31:53] >> Great. Um I was curious two things.
[1:31:56] hours only because again I feel like it
[1:31:58] might be different thinking about my
[1:31:59] son's soccer and the private things like
[1:32:00] they easily do things till 10 o'clock at
[1:32:02] night and so it's you're comfortable
[1:32:04] with the hours because it is light
[1:32:05] industrial so we have a little bit of
[1:32:07] give so
[1:32:08] >> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of
[1:32:10] um the you know during the day is going
[1:32:12] to be just office use for we just have
[1:32:15] four of us in there so it's not like a
[1:32:17] huge you know for parking or whatever um
[1:32:21] and then I am comfortable with the hours
[1:32:23] it's going to be a lot of small group
[1:32:24] and private training and not like loads
[1:32:27] of teams coming in that space.
[1:32:29] >> Okay,
[1:32:29] >> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm
[1:32:31] surprised too like your choice field
[1:32:34] hockey, but you guys don't ever open it
[1:32:36] up to anything else like football or
[1:32:38] other, you know, trainings. You just it
[1:32:40] only dedicates to field.
[1:32:41] >> I mean, this is again we've been doing
[1:32:42] this 20 years and we just focused on
[1:32:44] field hockey, but
[1:32:45] >> it's a win. Okay,
[1:32:47] >> great.
[1:32:48] >> How many uh players are training at any
[1:32:51] one time? Oh, thank you.
[1:32:53] >> We'll we'll be looking at doing small
[1:32:55] group. Well, some will be literally
[1:32:56] private one-on-one, but we'll be looking
[1:32:58] at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.
[1:33:02] >> Yeah, that's right.
[1:33:03] >> So, this is kind of a new concept, so
[1:33:06] it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence
[1:33:08] kind of gone out on a limb here because
[1:33:10] all these indoor practice facility,
[1:33:12] anyone who uses turf, they're all
[1:33:14] fighting over each other for Veta in the
[1:33:16] different turf
[1:33:17] >> areas. So, Lauren's still going to
[1:33:19] utilize those spaces. This will be a
[1:33:21] complimentary facility for her where she
[1:33:24] can do smaller group training
[1:33:26] one-on-one. She does a lot of
[1:33:27] recruitment videos for college and
[1:33:29] things like that. So, it'll have like a
[1:33:31] video production room.
[1:33:33] >> Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think
[1:33:36] she knows what she's gone through a
[1:33:38] heavy business plan. So, I think it's
[1:33:40] going to be a great facility. And
[1:33:43] honestly, the um the previous meeting we
[1:33:46] went to, they were like, "We think
[1:33:49] you're going to outgrow this facility
[1:33:50] and need to go get a bigger facility."
[1:33:51] So, it's going to it's a new concept in
[1:33:53] the indoor space. There's no one else
[1:33:55] doing it. We're excited about it. We're
[1:33:57] happy to be in Alvette. This is a great
[1:33:59] location. The property is well lit and
[1:34:01] it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the
[1:34:04] all the other businesses are in the
[1:34:05] afternoons, they'll be winding down on
[1:34:07] their business where she'll be picking
[1:34:08] up from when kids get out of school
[1:34:11] until the evening hours. So I think it's
[1:34:13] complimentary and then a lot of the
[1:34:15] parents when they drop their kids off
[1:34:18] they can go support the other businesses
[1:34:19] in the community or go over to pet pedal
[1:34:21] and pickle and make reservations and so
[1:34:23] maybe that helps from the parking
[1:34:25] standoint as well.
[1:34:26] >> Could I address just your question
[1:34:28] earlier also um we serve like
[1:34:32] three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of
[1:34:35] our clients are are parent drivers. Um,
[1:34:39] we do have some, you know, the 16, 17,
[1:34:41] 18 year olds and I do understand your
[1:34:43] question with that, but it's that's
[1:34:45] going to be a small percentage.
[1:34:47] >> I do imagine you will do quite well
[1:34:49] because I can imagine a lot of people
[1:34:50] that's why I asked about other sports
[1:34:51] because the recruitment as my son's
[1:34:53] going through that kind of thing right
[1:34:54] now. It's um a space where you could do
[1:34:57] that privately and get that and have
[1:34:58] video. I question do you plan maybe you
[1:35:00] don't because the size isn't like food.
[1:35:02] You're not selling food. We're not No,
[1:35:04] we don't have like a grillin bar or
[1:35:06] anything like that. think like a veta or
[1:35:08] something like that. Okay.
[1:35:09] >> You don't want any part of that.
[1:35:11] >> I don't want to venture into that.
[1:35:12] >> I understand. I just wanted to check.
[1:35:14] So,
[1:35:16] >> all right.
[1:35:17] >> Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use.
[1:35:19] I love to see the building repurposed um
[1:35:22] and and especially providing something
[1:35:25] that's unique um and sounds like a
[1:35:28] really great market to address. Um,
[1:35:32] and yeah, my my concerns really are more
[1:35:35] about the building and the kind of weird
[1:35:38] driving situation that exists. I don't
[1:35:40] have any concerns about the business
[1:35:42] other than the potential that you will
[1:35:44] be more successful and uh outgrow this
[1:35:48] space too quickly.
[1:35:50] So, we are in a little bit of a So, when
[1:35:53] we negotiated this deal on the building,
[1:35:56] the there was a new buyer coming in for
[1:35:58] the building, which is the Bluepoint or
[1:36:00] whatever LLC that's on the agenda for
[1:36:04] this evening. It is kind of an emergency
[1:36:06] situation. and Lauren got busy in the
[1:36:08] spring and we burned some time and then
[1:36:10] we realized when we went to permits that
[1:36:13] we figured pedal and pickle and it
[1:36:15] wasn't talked about with the previous
[1:36:16] lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit
[1:36:18] within the light industrial without a
[1:36:20] special use permit. So now we're in a
[1:36:22] situation where construction's been
[1:36:24] delayed. So really what we're trying to
[1:36:26] achieve is to get this thing off center
[1:36:29] because it's she's a small business and
[1:36:32] she's got time burning on at least right
[1:36:33] now and we're confident we can get
[1:36:35] through this with you guys and make the
[1:36:37] compromises needed to make sure everyone
[1:36:39] in the city is happy with the use. But
[1:36:42] it's kind of like we need I think what
[1:36:44] Carlos suggested is that we need to have
[1:36:46] it as an emergency so we can get a first
[1:36:48] and second reading. So whatever
[1:36:50] accommodations
[1:36:51] Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see
[1:36:56] if we can move this forward this evening
[1:36:59] if you guys would be open to that.
[1:37:01] >> Don't know from policy how that works in
[1:37:03] terms of because because we have to post
[1:37:05] agendas
[1:37:06] >> start the review of the uh the permit
[1:37:08] plans with them uh and then that's
[1:37:10] something we can offer
[1:37:12] >> to move I'm sorry
[1:37:13] >> to kind of facilitate and start the the
[1:37:15] permit review the the building permit
[1:37:17] plans before the council authorizes. So,
[1:37:20] it's a risk we take, but it's something.
[1:37:22] >> Yeah. And I think if it sounds like
[1:37:23] they're willing to work, so I think that
[1:37:25] makes sense to start early. We can't
[1:37:26] authorize until the second reading, but
[1:37:28] I think that gets you forward versus
[1:37:30] waiting to the second reading then to do
[1:37:32] that, right? So, it keeps us on track,
[1:37:34] if that makes sense. So,
[1:37:35] >> what is the policy? Can we do a first
[1:37:37] and second reading on one day?
[1:37:39] >> I don't know how we can do that.
[1:37:41] >> Technically, you can. Um, it was not
[1:37:43] advertised on the agenda that you were
[1:37:45] going to vote on it this evening. So, um
[1:37:48] that would have been useful, but uh
[1:37:50] technically you could you need to vote
[1:37:53] as a council. Someone needs to make a
[1:37:55] motion to hold the second reading this
[1:37:58] evening and then you need to vote on
[1:38:00] that motion and then you would be um you
[1:38:03] could then vote um on the
[1:38:10] » vote.
[1:38:11] Correct.
[1:38:14] And I guess though, Carlos, does it
[1:38:15] speed us up that much? Because the
[1:38:16] plans, how long is it going to take you
[1:38:17] guys to work through that?
[1:38:19] >> Takes about right now we're about 15
[1:38:22] days out for review comments.
[1:38:24] >> Okay. So, if you start working with them
[1:38:25] immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days
[1:38:27] anyway. And so, to me,
[1:38:30] >> it's going to be two weeks before we
[1:38:31] vote on this again, right?
[1:38:33] >> And so, I I don't think it's going to
[1:38:34] change anything anyway. And I'd rather
[1:38:36] if we didn't need to um if it was going
[1:38:38] to dash but so I think starting as soon
[1:38:39] as we can on just review to help them
[1:38:41] out would be great if
[1:38:42] >> it's something we can do without you
[1:38:43] with or without the
[1:38:45] >> okay before the only concern is in it
[1:38:47] was my understanding in the past it it
[1:38:49] sets a precedent and then they're always
[1:38:51] asking us the staff you know about
[1:38:53] >> yeah I think I think it's understood and
[1:38:56] so we need to be careful on that and not uh so recognizing that there's a
[1:39:01] need to burn and we really excited about
[1:39:02] the reuse of the building so you know
[1:39:04] open to that. But, uh, it's a good call
[1:39:06] out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.
[1:39:08] >> I would be comfortable if we entertained
[1:39:12] a second rating tonight. Does how does
[1:39:14] anybody else feel?
[1:39:16] >> I mean, if it if it's going to expedite helping them
[1:39:22] move forward faster, I'm okay with it.
[1:39:24] But if it's not going to make any
[1:39:25] difference, stick to what we're doing
[1:39:27] now.
[1:39:27] >> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I
[1:39:29] wouldn't be totally objecting to it
[1:39:31] except it does set precedent for us,
[1:39:33] too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's
[1:39:35] going to accelerate at this point in the
[1:39:37] period.
[1:39:37] >> And I say leave everything the way it
[1:39:38] is, but it might help Carlos so he
[1:39:41] doesn't get
[1:39:42] >> Well, it's one of these where one way or
[1:39:44] the other we're establishing a tricky
[1:39:46] precedent.
[1:39:46] >> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with
[1:39:50] Carlos working with the petitioner on
[1:39:53] the building permit side of things than
[1:39:57] making a decision in the middle of a
[1:39:59] council meeting to adjust our processes.
[1:40:02] Um, that we we were not prepped for
[1:40:05] ahead of time to do something like that.
[1:40:07] And I think adjusting something like
[1:40:10] that in in a council meeting at itself,
[1:40:12] I I don't feel comfortable with that.
[1:40:17] Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos
[1:40:18] the question for you is or Mr. is it any
[1:40:20] concerns from you moving forward on your
[1:40:22] side sooner than later?
[1:40:24] >> No, I mean they started off with permit
[1:40:26] plans. So I think they're they're they
[1:40:28] should have the contractor is here uh in
[1:40:31] >> I don't want to put you guys in a bind
[1:40:32] either if that's something that you guys
[1:40:34] can't staff timing or anything like that
[1:40:36] either. So that would
[1:40:37] >> correct but I think we can coordinate
[1:40:38] and get that that okay you know that
[1:40:40] first round going
[1:40:41] >> if you guys are good we'll have move
[1:40:42] forward that way. I think it'll end
[1:40:44] about the same time either way and I I
[1:40:45] would agree with Chairman Bam on that.
[1:40:47] >> So, realistically, when would the second
[1:40:49] reading be?
[1:40:50] >> ETH.
[1:40:51] Okay. Okay. Okay.
[1:40:53] >> And signage for the building. I don't
[1:40:54] know if we covered that. I apologize.
[1:40:57] >> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I
[1:40:59] have talked about it. It would go if you
[1:41:01] go forward a couple, you can see the
[1:41:03] orange door.
[1:41:08] » Oh, wrong way.
[1:41:10] We could put a sign there to
[1:41:11] >> Yeah, you could put a big arrow.
[1:41:14] >> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it
[1:41:17] hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM
[1:41:19] above that loading door
[1:41:22] um on that orange panel right there.
[1:41:24] >> But the loading door is not you're not
[1:41:26] using that door as an entrance.
[1:41:28] >> No.
[1:41:29] >> Okay.
[1:41:29] >> And just to so you guys understand, this
[1:41:32] space only accounts for about 2% of the
[1:41:34] entire building. And um the the way this
[1:41:38] space lays out, the entry will be on the
[1:41:41] other side of that orange door, but
[1:41:42] directly on the other side of the space.
[1:41:44] So that'll be the main entry point.
[1:41:45] You're not going to be entering from the
[1:41:47] price side. But the way it's laid out
[1:41:49] and the previous owner, they were
[1:41:52] basically talking about mothballing that
[1:41:54] space because it's laid out so
[1:41:55] inefficiently for really any other use
[1:41:58] than recreational or special use. So
[1:42:02] just because it's hard to get into stuff
[1:42:04] on the right side of this drawing which
[1:42:05] used to be a rail loaded is really tired
[1:42:08] space that you know frankly Lauren's
[1:42:11] spending a lot of money that she's
[1:42:13] investing into the space herself rather
[1:42:15] than landlord and the other space that
[1:42:16] Lord loading dock comes up and it makes
[1:42:19] a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is
[1:42:21] really it sat for a long time where they
[1:42:24] almost said let's just forget about
[1:42:26] leasing it and move on. So, all reason
[1:42:28] exciting to reuse it.
[1:42:29] >> Yeah.
[1:42:30] >> Wish you the best of luck. So,
[1:42:32] >> we'll move forward then. Um, any other
[1:42:35] questions from council?
[1:42:37] >> Uh, does anyone in the public have
[1:42:39] questions to ask?
[1:42:40] >> I just had one quick one.
[1:42:42] >> Come on up.
[1:42:45] >> So, I did represent the landlord when we
[1:42:47] signed this lease. Um,
[1:42:50] is there is there not have is there not
[1:42:53] more of a or less of a pre precedent to
[1:42:56] have a second reading at the council
[1:42:58] meeting, first reading and second
[1:43:00] reading, and to do the drawings early?
[1:43:02] >> Do you guys normally have you never done
[1:43:03] the second reading?
[1:43:04] >> It's not that we've never done it. My my
[1:43:06] concern is that everything we do
[1:43:08] generally we need to give the notice to
[1:43:09] the public so they expect what what
[1:43:11] we're voting on, what we're talking
[1:43:12] about, which is why we can't bring up
[1:43:13] random topics and discuss them and just
[1:43:15] forget at a given time. Um, and so it
[1:43:18] sets that precedent that we could do
[1:43:20] something and then people get upset that
[1:43:21] like you did something without letting
[1:43:22] us know. I would have come and spoken. I
[1:43:24] would have objected. I would have
[1:43:25] brought something up.
[1:43:26] >> Whereas this, while we usually staff
[1:43:28] would not usually work with you until
[1:43:30] it's put forward,
[1:43:32] >> we recognized this is going to go
[1:43:33] forward. So staff working with you now,
[1:43:35] I think puts us in the exact same spot
[1:43:37] at the end of the day. So
[1:43:38] >> Gotcha.
[1:43:39] >> Yeah.
[1:43:39] When we when we signed the lease,
[1:43:41] we figured um and I actually remembered
[1:43:43] it at the end, but when we did the
[1:43:45] paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had
[1:43:47] a special use permit athletic for the
[1:43:49] whole building and it was specific to
[1:43:50] their use. So,
[1:43:53] >> I want them to get going as soon as
[1:43:54] possible.
[1:43:54] >> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this
[1:43:56] will end up that's why our question of
[1:43:57] if it's going to be 15 days, if it's
[1:43:59] going to take that long anyway, we'll
[1:44:00] approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's
[1:44:02] done. We're at the same spot. If that
[1:44:04] was not the case, I'd be much more
[1:44:05] willing to entertain at this point. So,
[1:44:07] >> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank
[1:44:09] you. Thank you.
[1:44:10] >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?
[1:44:12] >> You know, the only drawback is that I've
[1:44:14] been frequenting Paris Baguette ever
[1:44:17] since discovering this place. So,
[1:44:19] >> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You
[1:44:21] know, so
[1:44:23] >> thank you.
[1:44:24] All right. Anyone online?
[1:44:26] Questions, comments? All right. I will
[1:44:29] close the public hearing.
[1:44:31] All right. And then we'll have it the
[1:44:32] second reading on the 8th. Thank you
[1:44:34] very much.
[1:44:34] >> Thank you.
[1:44:36] >> Okay. Move on to item 16.
[1:44:39] Uh, surface transportation we will be
[1:44:41] blocked. I will have you read it. How
[1:44:44] about that?
[1:44:46] >> Or do I?
[1:44:47] >> Yes, sir.
[1:44:48] >> Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I
[1:44:50] apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill
[1:44:53] 3072. If we can have the title right,
[1:44:55] please.
[1:44:56] >> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section
[1:44:58] 405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and
[1:45:02] additional requirements being part of
[1:45:04] the subdivision code of the city of
[1:45:05] Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision
[1:45:08] regulations of title 4, land use of the
[1:45:10] Alvet municipal code to allow for both
[1:45:12] residential and non-residential
[1:45:13] condominium plats and additional
[1:45:15] requirements. First reading and public
[1:45:17] hearing.
[1:45:18] >> All right, we'll open the public hearing
[1:45:19] on bill 3072 and presentation, please.
[1:45:22] >> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my
[1:45:24] name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director
[1:45:26] of planning and community development
[1:45:27] with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is
[1:45:29] a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the
[1:45:31] site plan and illustrations all the
[1:45:33] pretty pictures uh and there we're
[1:45:35] looking to amend our subdivision code
[1:45:37] specifically the section referring to
[1:45:39] condominiums plats and additional
[1:45:40] requirements. The next slide will show
[1:45:42] the the specific section and the changes
[1:45:44] in that is to remove the references to
[1:45:46] multif family or anything residential.
[1:45:49] Uh what this does it gets us more
[1:45:51] consistent with the condominium act. You
[1:45:53] see there reference of chapter 448 the
[1:45:55] revised statutes of Missouri. They kind
[1:45:58] of say that we we really can't hold a uh
[1:46:00] a distinction in terms of condominiums
[1:46:02] whether they're residential or
[1:46:04] non-residential that they can be applied
[1:46:05] to buildings a building replace or the
[1:46:08] sale of the building uh and they're I'm
[1:46:11] hoping I address that correctly with and
[1:46:14] there and we're just getting our code
[1:46:16] more consistent with the state.
[1:46:17] >> This is what most other cities in
[1:46:19] >> that is correct.
[1:46:20] >> Correct. Okay.
[1:46:21] >> Does that also apply to like industrial
[1:46:23] or office space as well? Yeah.
[1:46:26] >> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium
[1:46:27] doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you
[1:46:30] learn something new every day.
[1:46:34] » Is there any uh with the word
[1:46:36] subdivision in there, does that does
[1:46:39] that word imply one thing or another?
[1:46:41] I'm not sure what a you know, a
[1:46:42] condominium as a building versus a
[1:46:44] condominium subdivision.
[1:46:48] >> Condominium is a form of subdivision.
[1:46:49] And so I think when you go through
[1:46:50] chapter 405 and go through the the
[1:46:53] definition sections that's where that term subdivision is refer
[1:46:57] representing both a process and then a
[1:47:00] product of that process too. I think
[1:47:02] that's what where the that you're trying
[1:47:04] to address
[1:47:05] >> feels similar the word dwelling but you
[1:47:07] again I don't care I trust if this is
[1:47:09] what this
[1:47:09] >> the code's going towards and it gets us
[1:47:11] clear of that that makes sense.
[1:47:14] >> All right questions from the council.
[1:47:17] Anyone in the public online would like
[1:47:19] to speak to this?
[1:47:20] >> I think there are some items that record
[1:47:24] through our 2024 comprehensive plan
[1:47:27] update, the municipal code and zoning
[1:47:29] map uh the staff presentation and
[1:47:31] memorandum to the plan commission dated
[1:47:33] July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation
[1:47:36] and and that is part of your link uh in
[1:47:38] your staff memo, uh there are references
[1:47:40] to what other communities had uh in
[1:47:42] there, what they they were all doing,
[1:47:44] all of them being consistent. uh this
[1:47:46] public hearing notice because this is a
[1:47:47] public hearing and it was posted in the
[1:47:49] county in St. Louis County on August
[1:47:51] 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a
[1:47:54] list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't
[1:47:56] take that off uh there and then this
[1:47:58] presentation before the commission.
[1:48:02] Any other questions from council?
[1:48:05] >> All right. Anyone online?
[1:48:08] >> Yep. We will close the public hearing
[1:48:11] and the second reading will be on
[1:48:12] September 8th. Thank you, mayor.
[1:48:15] >> Thank you.
[1:48:16] >> All right,
[1:48:18] moving on to item 16, surface
[1:48:20] transportation block grant agreement
[1:48:22] with Missouri Highways and
[1:48:23] Transportation Commission for the North
[1:48:25] Price Phase One Grant Project.
[1:48:27] >> Good evening, Mayor.
[1:48:31] and council members.
[1:48:32] Again, Bruce McGregor, public works
[1:48:34] director. Um back in January uh work
[1:48:38] session, we discussed our second uh
[1:48:40] application for a surface transportation
[1:48:43] suballocated grant for North Price Road
[1:48:47] section one or phase one old bottom road
[1:48:50] to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100
[1:48:53] linear feet. We had applied the previous
[1:48:56] year and and didn't score high enough.
[1:48:58] So we made some strategic amendments to
[1:49:00] our application and uh basically
[1:49:03] offloaded some of the uh engineering
[1:49:06] work out of the grant as the city
[1:49:08] responsibility to try to meet a
[1:49:11] threshold to score more points which is
[1:49:13] one of the criteria used when the uh
[1:49:16] committee is reviewing the uh the grant
[1:49:18] applications. Uh so we found out a
[1:49:21] little bit earlier by looking at the
[1:49:23] agendas for the uh commission at East
[1:49:25] West Gateway that we were on the
[1:49:27] recommended list and then a couple weeks
[1:49:29] ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT
[1:49:33] from the local projects uh administrator
[1:49:36] that we were on the list for the uh
[1:49:39] meeting this week for award approval and
[1:49:42] that they recommended uh to hit the
[1:49:45] ground running that we present our uh
[1:49:47] the agreement to council for a
[1:49:48] pre-authorization
[1:49:50] uh to uh to uh execute the agreement
[1:49:54] should the uh board uh go ahead and do
[1:49:57] the expected uh you know decision this
[1:50:00] week. Uh be glad to answer any questions
[1:50:03] about the project, the timing, um next
[1:50:06] steps, what we've already completed,
[1:50:08] anything like that.
[1:50:11] >> Excited about it.
[1:50:12] >> Yeah.
[1:50:13] >> Good snooping.
[1:50:15] >> Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since
[1:50:18] Amron had been so busy there, we've
[1:50:20] received notice for them that they've
[1:50:22] done all of the energizing work on the
[1:50:25] circuits, uh, they may be coming back
[1:50:27] into town over the next few months,
[1:50:30] removing some obsolete cable uh, from
[1:50:33] the runs, but everything is in service
[1:50:35] uh, for that uh, load balancing or load
[1:50:38] relief project uh, for the distribution
[1:50:41] in University City and Leoo uh, just
[1:50:44] since it's in that same area that that
[1:50:45] project is done. Uh there
[1:50:48] >> so if we were to get final approval for
[1:50:50] this, I think this is question in
[1:50:52] everyone's mind. When would this project
[1:50:54] be realistically done?
[1:50:56] >> Well, so that's a a very fair question.
[1:50:59] What we have done uh last year uh we had
[1:51:02] committed to doing the survey. Uh this
[1:51:05] year what we had began we began in last
[1:51:07] budget year which is in the spring was
[1:51:09] the design work. Uh our intent is to
[1:51:13] have our what what they call an RE
[1:51:16] request for environmental review. So
[1:51:18] that is a uh a submitt that goes to
[1:51:21] Jefferson City to basically clear any
[1:51:24] environmental impacts we have and that
[1:51:26] might be more than just like hazardous
[1:51:28] materials but like native people or some
[1:51:31] other social economic uh impacts uh
[1:51:34] along with uh ecology as well. You know
[1:51:37] are we displacing any bats? The biggest
[1:51:40] unknown we have is rightaway
[1:51:42] acquisition. So, we have a 40-way
[1:51:45] rightway width. We want to maximize our
[1:51:48] existing condition of two sidewalks,
[1:51:50] right? One on either side. Uh we want to
[1:51:53] have a safe roadway for motorists and
[1:51:56] for cyclists. And we still want to have
[1:51:59] that appearance that's, you know, I
[1:52:01] think feels softer to us, which is a
[1:52:02] tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and
[1:52:05] relocate utilities and and other things,
[1:52:08] we need at minimum a temporary
[1:52:12] construction easement for grading uh
[1:52:14] from probably all of the uh property
[1:52:18] owners along the alignment. Okay. So um
[1:52:22] once we start through this process and
[1:52:24] get the rear submitted, we'll be
[1:52:26] planning public meetings. Um we'll be
[1:52:29] getting the word out, maybe going
[1:52:31] doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around
[1:52:33] with a vest with the engineer and we're
[1:52:35] looking at conditions, you know,
[1:52:36] interested parties come out. So many
[1:52:39] folks are quite excited about it. But,
[1:52:41] you know, once you start talking about
[1:52:43] changing, you know, the side of your
[1:52:45] house, people, you know, can start to
[1:52:47] question things. So, um, we always hope
[1:52:51] that we don't get to condemnation. We've
[1:52:53] done it before. And on the old bottom
[1:52:55] project, I think we submitted the final
[1:52:58] court documents 2 or 3 days before our
[1:53:01] grant expired uh which was uh almost $2
[1:53:04] million for that project. So um we hope
[1:53:08] we never get there again uh on there. So
[1:53:11] that's our biggest announcement. So So
[1:53:13] the long story short, we would hope to
[1:53:16] be doing construction for the schedule
[1:53:18] in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be
[1:53:21] ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that
[1:53:24] our residents will be enthusiastic.
[1:53:26] We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll
[1:53:29] be able to start the negotiation sooner
[1:53:31] in the involvement and, you know, get
[1:53:33] everybody signed off on. So any type of
[1:53:36] um federal grant or grant run through
[1:53:38] MODOT requires the city to do a lot more
[1:53:43] um work and there are a lot more steps
[1:53:47] that need to be taken than if we were
[1:53:50] just doing a regular street project,
[1:53:52] right? And so that is why it requires a
[1:53:55] lot more time. Uh realistically, you
[1:53:57] know, I would tell people three to four
[1:53:59] years. Give yourself a little uh leeway
[1:54:02] because it's not just us that has to do
[1:54:04] the work. Um
[1:54:07] when we do rideway acquisition, we do
[1:54:10] all of that and then MDOT has to go
[1:54:12] through and approve all of that and we
[1:54:14] can't get started on the next step till
[1:54:15] we finish right away. And then plans,
[1:54:18] MDOT has to approve all of that. So
[1:54:20] there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot
[1:54:22] of work and then waiting on others and
[1:54:24] then doing a lot of work and waiting on
[1:54:26] others. So if you want to give um give
[1:54:29] your constituents kind of a realistic
[1:54:30] answer, 3 to four years.
[1:54:32] >> We have the same concerns of
[1:54:34] hypothetically a gas line that isn't
[1:54:36] marked where
[1:54:37] >> Yeah. And and and one of the challenges
[1:54:39] is like what we ran into on the cost
[1:54:41] share project is the area team meets
[1:54:44] once a week. So and we aren't privy to
[1:54:47] the meeting. So they meet, they review,
[1:54:49] they ask a question. Well, then we have
[1:54:51] a week to respond and then they ask
[1:54:54] another question and then we have
[1:54:55] another week to respond. So, you know,
[1:54:58] it's not like we can make these
[1:54:59] decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so that's exactly right. And and we have
[1:55:06] we follow and we do everything by the
[1:55:08] rules anyway, but we we have extreme
[1:55:11] oversight on rightway acquisition
[1:55:12] following what's called the Uniform Act.
[1:55:15] Okay. It is uh designed to protect the
[1:55:18] property owner, you know, and make sure
[1:55:20] that everything is done, everything is
[1:55:22] properly appraised, every opportunity is
[1:55:25] given for the the owner to review and
[1:55:28] sign off on, you know, without being
[1:55:30] coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good
[1:55:33] that I know we did the right thing. You
[1:55:34] know, we always appraise everything. We
[1:55:36] sometimes we get second opinions. We did
[1:55:38] that on the cost share project because
[1:55:40] we wanted to make sure it was such a big
[1:55:42] acquisition that we were doing the right
[1:55:44] thing and everything was being fair uh
[1:55:47] you know for oversight.
[1:55:48] >> So to answer your question are we going
[1:55:50] to find something unexpected? Yes.
[1:55:53] >> And it could be something positive
[1:55:55] unexpected. It might not be something
[1:55:57] positive. it. Who knows?
[1:55:59] >> Um,
[1:56:00] >> one of the most positive that's ahead.
[1:56:02] >> Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer
[1:56:05] ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.
[1:56:08] Um, there will almost always be
[1:56:10] something unexpected.
[1:56:11] >> Yeah.
[1:56:12] >> All right. Fun times.
[1:56:13] >> All right. Any other questions? And
[1:56:16] anyone want to make
[1:56:18] >> uh make a motion to authorize the city
[1:56:20] manager to execute an STBG agreement
[1:56:24] with the Missouri Transportation
[1:56:26] Commission for the North Price Road
[1:56:29] phase 1 project contingent upon final
[1:56:32] award approval.
[1:56:34] >> Second.
[1:56:34] >> All right. Motion made second. Can we
[1:56:36] please pull the council?
[1:56:38] >> Council member Dragal.
[1:56:40] >> Yes.
[1:56:40] >> Council member Solomonov.
[1:56:41] >> Yes.
[1:56:42] >> Council member Clark.
[1:56:43] >> Yes.
[1:56:43] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[1:56:45] >> Yes. Mayor Lewis.
[1:56:46] >> Yes.
[1:56:46] >> Motion has passed.
[1:56:48] >> Thank you very much.
[1:56:48] Good luck.
[1:56:50] >> Excited.
[1:56:51] >> All right. Item 17, hearing from
[1:56:53] citizens part two. Does anyone in the
[1:56:56] audience or online wish to make a
[1:56:58] comment?
[1:57:02] » We're looking at one person.
[1:57:03] >> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move
[1:57:05] on to item 18, review and acceptance of
[1:57:07] minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections
[1:57:09] or notes to call out on the minutes?
[1:57:12] >> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to
[1:57:14] approve.
[1:57:15] >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
[1:57:17] council minutes from uh August 11th,
[1:57:19] 2026.
[1:57:20] >> Second.
[1:57:20] >> All right. Could we please pull the
[1:57:22] council?
[1:57:24] >> Council member Juel,
[1:57:25] >> yes.
[1:57:26] >> Council member Solomonov,
[1:57:27] >> yes.
[1:57:27] >> Council member Clark,
[1:57:28] >> yes.
[1:57:28] >> Chairman Prom Halman,
[1:57:30] >> yes.
[1:57:30] >> Mayor Lewis,
[1:57:31] >> yes.
[1:57:31] >> Motion has passed. All
[1:57:33] >> right. Thank you. We'll move on to item
[1:57:34] 19, city attorney's report.
[1:57:36] >> No report this evening.
[1:57:37] >> All right. But we do have a close
[1:57:39] session.
[1:57:40] >> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on
[1:57:42] to item 20, close session. So, can I
[1:57:44] please get a motion to go into close
[1:57:46] session?
[1:57:46] >> Like to make a motion go into close
[1:57:48] session pursuant to the revised statutes
[1:57:51] of the state of Missouri. Discuss
[1:57:54] client, excuse me, attorney client
[1:57:56] privileges, communications pursuant to
[1:57:58] section 610.021
[1:58:02] and real for and real estate matters
[1:58:04] pursuant to section 610.0212.
[1:58:10] » All right. All right. Do I hear a
[1:58:11] second?
[1:58:11] >> Second.
[1:58:12] >> Please pull the council.
[1:58:15] >> Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is the wrong one. Council member
[1:58:21] Duel.
[1:58:21] >> Yes.
[1:58:22] >> Council member Solomon.
[1:58:23] >> Yes.
[1:58:23] >> Council member Clark.
[1:58:24] >> Yes.
[1:58:25] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[1:58:26] >> Yes.
[1:58:27] >> Mayor Lewis.
[1:58:27] >> Yes. All right. We will now close this
[1:58:30] regular session and move into executive
[1:58:31] floor session.
[1:58:36] » All right. We'll call the we'll close
[1:58:38] the executive session and call the
[1:58:39] regular session back to order. Um no
[1:58:41] major decisions were made uh at this
[1:58:45] point. Um
[1:58:46] >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn
[1:58:48] >> and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at
[1:58:50] 9:45 p.m. Thank you.