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All right, we will call the Olivet City
Council meeting to order on September

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8th, 2026. If we please have roll call.
>> Mayor Lewis

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» here.
>> Chairman Prom Shashan Helman

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» here.
>> Council member Clark

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» here.
>> Council member Solommanov

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» here.
>> Council member Dragel

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» here.
>> All right. Wonderful. We'll move on to

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item two, communications. Are there any
communications to share? I do not have

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any written communications.
>> Okay. But we do have an introduction, I

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believe.
>> Uh, we do. So,

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this is Betty Pendleton. She is our new
court administrator. She's been with us

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a month,
a little over a month. So, she came to

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us from Normandy's court where she was
managing six courts. So, um, she's

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enjoying just the one.
Just the one. Um, so we would like to

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welcome her and her son Tristan.
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» that's mostly for you, Tristan. Sorry
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excited to have you. Uh, welcome to all
of it and the the staff. And so, um, as

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council, we're happy to have you here
and hopefully it's, uh, quite enjoyable

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and, uh, less crazy than this. So,
wonderful.

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Wonderful. Well, thank you for coming
and thanks for the support. We

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appreciate you coming. So,
>> welcome aboard.

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» Welcome aboard. Thank you very much.
>> All righty. We will move on to item

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number three, city manager report,
please.

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» Good evening.
>> Good evening.

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All right,
couple of things. Um, first and

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foremost, a couple uh updates on Olive
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So, again, uh, lot three. As far as I
know, um, the tenants are doing well and

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and now that the first rush of everybody
going to visit, uh, the new tenants has

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has sort of subsided, it appears that a
lot of the parking has also gotten uh,

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gotten better. So, uh, we encourage
everybody to go visit all those tenants

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uh, in lot 3. They have just had one
vacant tenant space left uh, that I'm

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aware of. And then they are continuing
to do work uh on the fountain. So, as

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far as we know, they have gotten their
permits through St. Louis County and

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they're continuing to to do that
plumbing um through St. Louis County.

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Uh lot five, um the developer is going
to be dividing lot 5 in half and the

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northern half of that is going to be
Texas Roadhouse. Um the southern half is

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an as of yet unnamed uh tenant but
before the planning and development uh

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commission is a preliminary plat uh to
divide the two parcels as well as an

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update to the overall uh master plan for
the site uh because the master plan did

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not envision lot 5 being divided. So, we
just want to do some housekeeping and

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get it all uh cleaned up. And so, that
will be in front of the PCDC on

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September
17th, the next the next uh PCDC meeting

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um in September. Mr. Dr. Tjo is going to
kind of bring that forward as a

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educational item and um kind of talk
through the PCDC as far as what the next

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steps will be for that um up minor
update to the master plan as well as the

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preliminary plat.
And then lot six uh is the hotel and we

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don't have any um updates for that.
There are a few things that are going to

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be happening here in Alvette. So, this
coming Friday, September 11th, um the

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Great Rivers Greenway is hosting a
walking tour along the Centennial

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Greenway, um from 12 to 2:00 p.m. Uh it
is free. They do ask individuals to

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register just so they kind of have an
idea

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of who is coming. And so you can
certainly scan the QR code to register,

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but you'll be walking uh with an expert
look um talking about nature and the

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trail. Um and it's about 2 miles, so
bring your walking shoes. Uh it is

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relatively flat, so there are no big
hills or anything uh along the greenway.

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So we encourage everybody to join the
Centennial Green join the Great Rivers

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Greenway on the Centennial Greenway.
And then this is last call for all of

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Night Out. We would encourage any
neighborhood uh that is looking to host

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a block party to sign up with uh
Lieutenant Celzer and the police

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department for Olivet Night Out, which
is Tuesday, September 15th, so a week

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from today. Um groups of both the
elected officials, the fire department,

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and the police department will be making
the rounds uh of the various

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neighborhood groups. So, we encourage
everybody to sign up uh and come and

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join your neighbors.

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And then that following uh Friday,
September 18th, is uh trivia night at uh

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Five Oaks. And as I checked uh earlier
today, there are four tables left. So,

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grab your friends. Um get a table. It's
90s and 2000 sitcoms. So, um I think

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it'll be a fun time with fun questions.

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And then the Great Olive Cleanout is
September 30th uh from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m.

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It is at Five Oaks on Warson just like
it was last year. They'll have the

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dedicated route to come up the driveway
and then through and then exit. Um and

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so you can bring your electronics, so
almost anything with a cord. And then

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your um documents for shredding. This is
for residential shredding. materials

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only. So, not for businesses that have a
lot of files that need to be shredded,

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but if you are at home and you have
materials to be shredded, uh please

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bring them out.

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And then we do have the results of the
battle of the badges which was uh last

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week, last Thursday. So, we had 29 total
donors including not only members of the

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police and the fire department, but
members of staff uh as well as the mayor

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came out. There were um nine first-time
donors and then five power red donors.

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So, they got an actual
34 units of blood out of those 29

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donors. And the fire department won by
one vote. So, every vote counts

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and we appreciate everybody coming out
and donating that very valuable u blood.

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And then just a reminder, it is also
turkey trot season. Um you may register

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for the annual Thanksgiving morning run.
We are starting at 8:00 this morning.

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The last couple of years we've we've had
to be delayed a little bit, but um we

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got a lot of feedback that it's very
important that we start at 8:00 and so

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we we are going to be doing that. But we
encourage everybody to uh come out for

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Turkey Trot and all of the proceeds go
to the Harvey Cornblum Jewish food

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pantry. Uh last year we gave more than
$30,000 to the food pantry and so we are

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hoping that we can meet or exceed that
um donation again this year.

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And then I just encourage everybody to
sign up for the Alvette Weekly, which is

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our weekly e newswsletter with all kinds
of um news and events going on in the

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city of Alvette.
And then just a couple general updates.

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Uh first and foremost, we are very
excited that Carlos is getting a new

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person on his team. Uh we are getting a
new building inspector. They are in the

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pre-employment process now, so we expect
that they'll be coming on um shortly.

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And then just a reminder to the council
that we are having a work session at

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6:30 on September 22nd. So right before
your next council meeting. This is the

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continuation of those departments in
depth. Uh and the next department up

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will be parks.
And with that I can answer any questions

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and then here are the upcoming meeting
dates.

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» Anyone on Thank you very much. Anyone on
the council have questions for city man?

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Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very
much. All right, we'll move on to item

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four, city council liaison reports,
where the council members will give

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updates on kind of activities or
meetings they've attended. Uh, council

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member Solomon,
>> no update for me this evening. All

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right, Mayor Prom,
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3rd, and there were two text amendments
that passed. One allowing for coin

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operated laundry. Um, and the other
allowing for garage condos. Um, and both

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of those will be coming before the
council probably in October, I think. So

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um and then the PCDC also was able to
elect officers. Um so Sam Wallock is the

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uh chair and
I'm not going to remember Petri is the

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» vice vice chair.
>> Vice chair and

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» as fancy as mayor prom.
>> Yeah. Now I'm blanking on secretary

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» secretary. My apologies. Laura Ragdale.
Thank you. Thank you.

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Um, and then I also attended on
September 4th an ADAPT STL conference

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put on by St. Louis University. And this
was a dayong conference that brought in

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uh representatives from municipalities
as well as representatives from um Amron

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and local nonprofits and organizations
that work in the sustainability fields.

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And the idea was to work with Slooh's
research team as they create uh modeling

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tools for both extreme heat and flooding
events. And they wanted to make sure

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that as they were developing their
modeling tools, they were developing

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tools that actively respond to the needs
of municipalities,

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utilities, and nonprofits who work in
this space. So, it was really great um

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to just have these conversations
with other people who are considering

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these issues and to really be thinking
forward about the science and the

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research that we need, especially as a
municipality in order to make the

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decisions that we need to make for uh
future flooding and heat events.

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» Great.
All right, Migo. Um, I have nothing to

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report today.
>> I have nothing to report as well.

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» The only thing uh I have to report is on
last Friday the 4th, um, I got to attend

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the Ace Rick's Ace Hardware grand
opening, which was very exciting. Um,

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I'm a little sad I didn't get to use the
scissors because they used a chainsaw to

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cut a board as their opening, but uh,
that was quite unique. Uh, but honestly,

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the customer service was quite
incredible. Uh then they I think they

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had tons of people there and they were
just really excited to have people there

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and uh the community was already showing
up before 9:00 trying to get in um you

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know for the grand opening sales and
specials and so I think it's going to be

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a great addition and uh had a lot of
great vendors outside you know like Big

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Green Egg, Trigger um you know and tools
and things like that and fire department

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was well there represented as well. So
and a lot of staff so that was exciting

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good community welcome. though. All
right. Uh we'll move on to item number

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five. Uh items from council members,
things topics they want to bring up for

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future discussion, but not going into
depth on um the council today. Any

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topics from anyone they want to bring up
that aren't on the agenda or that we

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need to discuss for a future agenda.

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Okay. All right. We're going to move on
to item number six, hearing from

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citizens. This is the portion of the
agenda where anyone present in person or

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virtually may address the city council
regarding any topic, including those

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later in the agenda. Each speaker is
allowed up to three minutes to address

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the mayor and city council. Hearing from
citizens is designed for council to

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receive feedback rather than for a
direct dialogue, so we do not respond.

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Uh we will take speakers in person
first, followed by any online. If you're

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in person, you can complete a speaker
card and give it to the clerk. If you

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have already given your card to the
clerk, we'll take you in order in which

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you submitted your card. If you're
online and wish to speak, please use

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your raise your hand feature and you'll
be added as a speaker. Uh for those

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speakers when you come forward, please
make sure the mic is on that you state

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your name and address for the record
prior to delivering your remarks. Uh and

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then there will be a second session of
this later in the evening as well if you

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didn't get in this first one or you want
to speak twice. So I'll open it up. Is

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there anyone who wants to come forward
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No. All right. Anyone online wish to
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Okay. So, I believe uh council member
clerk has uh they want to speak and

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address the council as well. So, we'll
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» If you didn't turn the mic on, I'm going
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I was hoping that you asked me to.
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» Steve Iola, 1505 Missouri.
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um many of you may or may not know that
I am a kidney transplant survivor. Uh

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about two and a half years ago, I
underwent a kidney transplant and I'm

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one of the fortunate few to have a live
donor. Um,

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the day that I went under surgery to
have my kidney was my birthday.

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And I remember praying to God just
before surgery. I said, "Father, if you

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just let me live, I'll do my best to
serve my man, be a better man, and be a

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better person, and I'll do all that I
can to be the man that you want me to

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be." And I remember the nurse tapping me
on my shoulder saying, "Okay, I need you

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to move over to this other table." And I
asked, "How long is the surgery going to

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take?" and she said it's surgery's
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Um that in itself was my miracle. After
that um I realized how important how

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very important life is and how precious
it is. After surgery food tasted better,

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colors were brighter, sunsets were
better, hugs from my friends were

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better. Everything was better. And I
appreciated life so much better. And I

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decided I'm going to do that. And
service to your mankind, your your

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constituents and the people in your
world and your neighbors. Service to

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them is your payment for your space here
on Earth. And so I'm doing my part by

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joining with this gentleman here with
the National Kidney Foundation to help

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raise money. We're having a golf
tournament that's coming up in November.

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Would you please tell us about them? So,
it's actually our 45th year for the golf

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tournament. Um, it's one of our larger
fundraisers. Uh, we generally get about

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120 golfers uh at the event. Uh, we're
doing some new things this year um with

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the golf tournament. We're honoring
individuals at different holes and doing

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some more peer-to-peer fundraising
opportunities because not everyone can

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do a force. Not everyone golfs. Uh, so
we're looking at new opportunities in

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that. And that's one of the things that
Sydney's kind of helping us with uh is

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spreading the word about some of these
additional types of opportunities and

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everything. Um I'd also add to what
Sydney was talking about too is um we

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are making a much larger push here
locally in the St. Louis area to do more

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community outreach type programs,
screening type of programs. Um that's

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been something that's been a little
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local level. So we're doing some
community outreach programs currently

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now in in North City. Um, but I know
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of moving on this side, uh, and doing
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everything, too. So, um, so stay tuned
on on those things. Uh, we've got a

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couple of screening programs going next
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it's time to expand some of that stuff a
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» So, tell them how we want to raise some
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» Um, so we have some opportunities for,
um, on the golf tournaments. Um we've

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got what become more of a peer-to-peer
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honoring um different individuals uh at
some at the different holes and

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everything. Sydney's one of our honores
uh this year and everything. So I do

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have some flyers and some information
that I can share with you uh with QR

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codes and information like that. So um
>> and we'll share that with you. And if

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you'd like to donate, you can just scan
the QR code and donate

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» in the mic. Sorry. So they can hear mic.
Yes. Uh we have a QR code where you can

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scan the QR code so that you can donate
to the cause and we will glad gladly

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accept any amount so that this can go to
a good cause and um you know thank you

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very much for listening and again um I'm
one of the fortunate few that was able

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to get the kidney. There are millions of
people every day that are suffering and

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won't see another year. So again, any
help that you can give would be greatly

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appreciated. And I am an ambassador now
for the National Kidney Foundation and I

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will be one until I'm no longer here. So
thank you very much for listening.

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» Thank you very much.
>> Thanks. Thanks.

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» Thank you for coming.

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» Anyone else wish to speak?
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all right. Thank you. Appreciate it.
We're going to move on to item seven.

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Bill 3070. Can we please have the title
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» Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a
special permit use for AC Richardson LLC

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owners of the property grounds addressed
as 1215 Dealman Industrial Court to

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permit SSM Health Cardinal Glenn and
Pediatric Therapy to operate a 4566

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square foot medical clinic within the
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Industrial Drive. Second reading. Good
evening, mayor, members of the city

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council. My name is Carlos Tre. I'm the
director of planning and community

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development with the city of Alvette. I
am here tonight requesting or the

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council would consider action on bill
3070. This grants a special permit of

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course to SSM Caro Glennon uh pediatric
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foot medical clinic uh on the premises
at uh 1215 Deman Industrial Drive. More

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specifically, the tenant space address
is 9375 Dealman. We held a public

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hearing at our last council meeting. Uh
in there there was some comments and

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questions from the council regarding uh
some landscaping and some proposed

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exterior modifications uh in there. Uh
the petition and also a a general layout

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of what the interior would look like. Uh
the interior plans are located within

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your packet uh in there. But today we
did receive an email that had the uh the

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proposed landscaping uh again putting
putting uh three trees on the site

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grounds and then some shrubbery. Uh
those are not in the packet uh in there

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and city manager Yaki is going to have
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But they would utilize that green space
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the corner. Uh put up some trees and
then there would be some additional

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landscaping along the curb side of the
parking uh facing uh west. Uh that kind

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of creates a boundary along that area.
and then two additional uh ornamental

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trees uh within the perimeter of the
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» can I clarify? Sorry to interrupt.
>> Absolutely. Go ahead, M.

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» Option planting. Does that mean it's
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like it's not option null. I guess I'm
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planting.
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those as part of the condition.
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guess I always will push for Missouri
native if possible. That's just a

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question I would ask why.
>> And we'll go through those. We were

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talking with set final like this point.
Okay, thank you.

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» The next slide will show the types of
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uh on the building and those would be
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And then the next slide will kind of
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exterior lighting as they would under
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kind of show it's the upper part of the
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to get painted, but the other part uh
the upper part. They have a darker tone

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as compared to what the original
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it less looking weathered. So
So that mayor, that concludes uh the

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followup regarding the the council's
requests. Uh and there'll be glad to

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answer any specific questions. I know
you guys just got to see these three

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diagrams when we do have representatives
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I yeah, my push would just be as many
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possible, but I know that's something
staff will work with, you know, the

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group on. So, um, other questions from
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» No, I have no
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seeing, you know, a clear sense of how
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signage, and it just really helps to get
a a bigger picture of um what this space

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will look like and how it will be used.
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and effort to to take those steps. Thank
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» Sure.
Okay, then I'll ask uh if anyone wants

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to make a motion
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» yeah
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» I'll make a motion to approve bill 3070
uh an ordinance authorizing

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» a special permit use for AC Richardson
LLC

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um owners of the property grounds
addressed at 1215 Dealman Industrial

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Court to permit SSM Health Cardinal
Glenn and Pediatric Therapy to operate a

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4566qt
medical clinic within the tenant space

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addressed as 9375 Dealman Industrial
Drive. The property grounds are zoned as

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LI Light Industrial District.
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» All right, we have a motion and a
second. Uh, can we please call the

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council?
>> Council member Dragel,

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» yes.
>> Council member Solomonov,

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» yes.
>> Council member Clark,

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» yes.
>> Chairman Prom, Sean Helman,

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» yes.
>> Mayor Lewis,

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» yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3070 becomes

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ordinance 2840.
>> Great. Glad to have you here and uh

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welcome. Thanks for coming in.
Appreciate it. So, you're welcome to

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stay for the entire thing if you want.
>> All right. Uh item number eight, bill

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3071, please. Bill 3071, an ordinance
authorizing a special permit use for New

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Blueprint Partners LLC owners of the
property grounds addressed as 1220 North

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Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to
operate a 6,614

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ft enclosed recreational use within the
tenant space addressed as 1220 North

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Price Road, Sweet 4, second reading.

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» Good evening, Mayor. Again, my name is
Carlos Trulo. Uh we're not on the

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record, so I'll leave it at that. Uh
this is a request for uh the council to

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consider action on bill 3071 and that's
to authorize a special permit use uh to

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uh Aimfield hockey to operate a 6614
square foot enclosed uh indoor infield

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hockey facility at the property. Address
is 1220 North Price Road Suite 4. Uh

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this was before you uh under a uh public
hearing at our last meeting. Uh there

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were some general comments and questions
uh more specifically about trying to

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expedite the uh and assist the
petitioners uh with the permitting

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process on the and that we did meet with
them today uh in there. We had

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discussions. My goal is to get uh the uh
the first round of comments to the

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applicant by tomorrow and they're
confident that they can get a a quick

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turnover and then I'll make sure we work
to get that permit out for them. Uh

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depending on the council's
consideration, uh we did look at the

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parking areas and and all that.
Everything seemed to be appropriate.

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Kind of look use Google to look at the
peak times and kind of scope out how the

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layout the general layout was. I think
it works pretty well uh in there. I mean

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there there were there's spaces you just
you know they're not right in the front

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door but there are spaces that were
available throughout the day uh in

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there. So I I like what I saw. Um and
there and then we'll continue to work

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with the property owner regarding the
addressing some of the uh the fencing

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along the perimeter of the property.
>> Makes sense. Any questions from council

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on this item that we addressed last
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» Sorry, mayor. Sorry to interrupt, but we
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both for the building and with it. So,
>> um it was pretty thorough last time. I

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think it was good to get our questions
answered. So, um not to say I'm being

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rude not inviting you up, but we don't
have questions. [laughter] So, unless

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you really want to say okay. Yeah. So,
>> all right. No questions for anyone then.

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» I don't necessarily have a question. um
just a a kind of a concern that I'll be

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interested to just see if this ever
becomes something that could be changed

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or adjusted in the future. Um that would
be a larger issue for all tenants of

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this building. And that's the the odd
section that's in front of the building

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that has the
ovalshaped grass and then you've got

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these two entrances from the side. Um,
I can just foresee that potentially

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being confusing with additional car
traffic in there, the different ways to

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come in and out. And if it's possible in
the future as this building is more

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occupied and used, and um, if it does
become a problem, maybe it won't, um, I

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would love to see that traffic flow
improved somehow, just so that it's a

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little bit cleaner, just one entrance
and exit. um just for safety, for

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ease of use, but I I don't have any
issues with this particular use and the

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um the item that's before us.
>> I appreciate your concerns and we'll

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take a a look at that. We did look at
some of the history. I won't go o over

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like how we got to that point uh in
there, but they they're are valid. Uh

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but I think we'll work with them and
then over times something we can take a

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look at.
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» All right. No other questions. Do I hear
a motion? I'd

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» like to make a motion. Sorry. To approve
bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a

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special permit use for New Blueprint
Partners LLC owners of the property

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grounds addressed as 1220 North Price
Road to permit AIM Field Hockey to

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operate a 6,614
ft enclosed recreational use within the

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tenant space addressed as 1220 North
Price Road Suite 4.

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» Motion made. Do I hear a second?
>> Second. All right. Motion and second.

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Could we please pull the council?
>> Council member Duel.

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» Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.

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» Yes.
>> Council member Clark.

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» Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

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» Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.

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» Yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3071 becomes

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ordinance 2841.
>> Welcome as well. I'm very excited.

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» Think you're going to do quite well
because I constantly see the great

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pictures in the great, you know, in the
training sessions and things like that.

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So, good luck.
>> And [clears throat] we don't have

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anything like it and all of that. So
exciting to have a new business.

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» We got it now.
>> Yeah.

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» All right. We'll move on to bill 3072.
If we can have the title be read,

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please.
>> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section

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405-460
condominiums, plats, and add additional

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requirements being part of the
subdivision code of the city of Alvette.

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Chapter 405, Subdivision Regulations of
Title 4 land use of the Alvette

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municipal code to allow for both
residential and non-residential

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condominium plat.
Second reading.

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» Good evening, mayor. Again, Carlos Tjo,
city of Alamett. Uh I'm requesting that

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the council will consider action on bill
3072. This would amend our subdivision

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regulations. Uh more specifically to
ensure that our condominium planning

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procedures are consistent with state
statute. Be glad to answer any specific

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questions. We had a public hearing on
this matter at our last meeting.

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» No, this was an interesting one to allow
certain businesses. So, makes sense. And

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we're also complying with what needs to
be done, it sounds like. So, any

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questions from council?
>> Any concerns?

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» No. Okay. Then, anyone want to make a
motion?

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» I'll make a motion to approve bill 3072,
an ordinance to amend sections 405.460,

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460 condominiums, plats, and additional
requirements being part of the

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subdivision code of the city of Alvette.
Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of

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title forward land use uh of the Alvette
municipal code to allow both residential

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and non-residential condominium plats
and additional requirements.

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» Second. All right. Motion and second.
Can we please pull to council?

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» Council member Durgel,
>> yes.

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» Council member Solomonov,
>> yes.

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» Council member Clark,
>> yes.

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» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman,
>> yes. Mayor Lewis.

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» Yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3072 becomes

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ordinance 2842.
>> Excellent.

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» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

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» Moving right along. First big
presentation.

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Um item 10, Bill 3073. Can we please
have the title read? Bill 3073,

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an ordinance fixing the annual rate of
tax levy for 2026 on all property within

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the city of Alvette, providing for the
extension of said taxes on the books of

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the collector by the county clerk, and
providing for the collection thereof.

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First reading.
So today I have a treat for you. I'm

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going to go over the process for the
municipal tax rate setting. Um what we

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do for um a few months of the year while
we prepare the tax rate for you. Um, so

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I believe that it wasn't in your packet,
but this will be part of the minutes,

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correct? So they'll have an or an
opportunity to have a copy of this.

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» We can post it.
>> Oh, okay. So we'll post it. So um if you

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miss any of part of it, you're welcome
to uh ask questions at the end and then

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00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:26,880
you'll get a copy of this um for your
reference in the future. So I'll start

411
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:33,520
by going over our annual property and
real estate tax rate setting. um for the

412
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:38,159
city. So the topics in this presentation
are going to be the purpose of the real

413
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:43,360
and property tax rates, the property
appraisal process and the assessment

414
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:49,120
cycle, the equation to convert appraisal
to assessed value and some examples. Um,

415
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:55,279
the limits to tax growth, new
construction, an example real of a real

416
00:31:51,760 --> 00:32:00,559
estate tax bill with the all of it
percentage of the total tax, personal

417
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:05,519
property um, and that tax process, an
example of a personal property tax bill

418
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:10,320
and the all of it all of it percentage,
calculating and setting the rate, what

419
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:16,320
happens after that, and then our
proposed 2026 rates with an estimated

420
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:20,399
bill using the 26 rate for one sample.
of a residential property. Um, we have a

421
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:24,559
conclusion and then time for question
and answers. Questions and answers. Um,

422
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,200
just for your reference, I know you're
used to seeing a financial report and

423
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:34,240
we'll have that for you at the next
meeting. So, won't miss that at all. So

424
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:40,159
the purpose of real and property tax
rates um for mun Missouri municipalities

425
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:46,799
and other tax rate setting entities is
to have a voter approved and reliable

426
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:51,360
revenue source that helps fund essential
services. And in the city of these

427
00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:56,159
essential services include our police
and fire and parks planning services as

428
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:00,480
well as administrative functions that
support the city in these important

429
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:04,720
services. The city also has a separate
rate for its city pension and debt

430
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:10,960
service and all three of these rates
have been voter approved.

431
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:16,080
The real property appraisals are they
occur in odd years. Um Missouri law

432
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:21,600
requires an assessment a reassessment
every odd year or every two years in odd

433
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:25,519
number of years numbered years. Um, no
general reassessment occurs in even

434
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:31,919
years unless there is a significant
change that would prompt a reassessment

435
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:37,440
such as new construction, demolition,
major renovation. And then um once a

436
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:42,720
reassessment occurs, property owners
receive a notice of that in May. Um

437
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:50,240
there are inspections that are required
every six years um for every parcel that

438
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:56,159
has to be um inspected every once every
six years. And then any property that

439
00:33:53,039 --> 00:34:00,799
increases significantly by more than 15%
is also u required to be inspected. And

440
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:05,600
you can also have an owner request an
inspection. Commercial inspections

441
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:10,879
require or occur as needed and those are
also often tied to significant changes.

442
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:16,720
The valuation method is fair market
value and it's determined as of January

443
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:20,320
1. So your property is appraised as it
was on January 1st.

444
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,159
» And it said odd years. Is that because
we're in our fiscal 2027 year now? Is

445
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,359
that why it's for us now?
>> Well, we're actually setting the rate

446
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:32,240
for 2026.
So we didn't have a reassessment this

447
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:36,399
year. So I'm just mentioning that um we
are basically

448
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:42,800
just mentioning the process that they
follow. So you'll be aware of that. And

449
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:47,359
then in uh 2020, well 2026 is not a
reassessment year. In 2027, it will be a

450
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:51,440
reassessment year. It's just the process
that they follow.

451
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:55,040
» It's not it's not specific to all of it.
>> Yeah. But it said reassessed. And so

452
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,839
this isn't a reassessment year. It's in
odd years they reassess.

453
00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:01,040
» Correct. Reassess the
>> We still do this every year. Obviously

454
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,720
» you set property taxes every year.
>> Reassess,

455
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,359
» right? But we but we reassess every odd
year unless there's something unusual

456
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:16,000
like new construction that finishes and
is ready for occup occupancy or um or is

457
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:21,520
occupied. Residential um property has to
be occupied in order for it to be

458
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:25,760
considered eligible for assessment. So
unless something like that happens,

459
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:29,440
major renovation, we won't they won't
have a reassessment in an even year. So

460
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:35,680
I'm just giving you a part of the
process of what happens.

461
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:41,680
So um the appraised value gets converted
to the assessed value using some ratios.

462
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:47,200
For residential it's a 19%
um ratio. You multiply that times the

463
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,240
appraised market value to get the
assessed value.

464
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:57,680
And for commercial it's 32%.
And then for agriculture it's 12. But we

465
00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,400
don't have agricultural uh property in
the city of all. And the appraisers use

466
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,720
comparable sales. They'll sometimes
provide that information either with a

467
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:11,200
property record or in your form that you
receive in May. Um they'll use property

468
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:17,920
data and market analysis to determine
the appraised value. An example of a

469
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:24,720
home's appraised value and its um
assessment value would be in 2025 we had

470
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:32,000
a 1,600 foot oliveette residence. It was
pre appraised near $325,000.

471
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:38,079
If you multiply that by 19% you um come
up with $61,750

472
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:43,480
and that equals the assessed value
and that is the amount that the tax will

473
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,480
be assessed on.

474
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:51,839
And an example of commercial property
assessment and the correlating

475
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:56,320
percentage of 32%. I have three examples
here that I pulled off of the county

476
00:36:53,440 --> 00:37:01,119
website. This is with 2025 information.
and say you have one appraisal, it's

477
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:06,560
close to 1,70,000.
If you multiply that by 32% to get an

478
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:11,640
assessment value of 342,000. So it's
less than 1/3 of the appraised value.

479
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:22,800
There are limits to what we can yield in
odd and in even years.

480
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:27,920
um and that is limited by the John
Hancock amendment of 1980 and it limits

481
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:35,680
any new tax revenue that can occur
without a vote. So this whole process um

482
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:41,920
is limited either by CPI
um actual growth in property assessments

483
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:47,599
or 5% and it's whichever is least so the
lesser of those. So, normally it is CPI.

484
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Um, so
>> CPI stand for

485
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:57,200
» uh consumer price index
>> and I don't know which they use. Um, but

486
00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:03,280
I would assume it's probably e CPIU or
CPI uh W. I'd say probably U, but I can

487
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:08,960
find that out. It is set by the Missouri
State Auditor's office and then it is um

488
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:16,800
certified by the state tax commission.
Um and this year it is 2.7% that they're

489
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:21,280
utilizing. Um what happens is that um
when the assessments go up or the

490
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:27,680
appraisals and therefore the assessments
go up that's included that's considered

491
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:32,079
growth. Um so if you have an assessment
city's assessment that goes up usually

492
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:40,320
their rate will go down to keep the city
revenue neutral except for that CPI or

493
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:45,119
5% or growth whichever is least. So,
and I can show an example of that next

494
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:51,440
at the next meeting.
New construction is handled a little bit

495
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:56,400
differently. Um, we the first year only.
Um, new residential construction is

496
00:38:54,079 --> 00:39:00,079
considered eligible for assessment upon
occupancy. As I mentioned, for

497
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:04,240
commercial property, the standard is
when it's available for occupancy. So,

498
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:08,560
obviously, you can have property that is
eligible to be rented out still can be

499
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:14,079
assessed by the assessor. they still owe
the tax based on that date. Um, new

500
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:19,839
construction values are excluded in the
tax calculation the first year. And

501
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:25,359
you've probably seen this on the tax um
rate presentation where they mention

502
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:31,040
what amount is uh due to new
construction. Um the past two years it's

503
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:36,160
been around $20,000. We get the new
construction free the first year and

504
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:43,520
then subsequent years it's rolled into
the equation. So, um, so that's nice to

505
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:48,480
allow a one-year bump in revenue for new
for new construction. Um, we also

506
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,560
receive tiff increment values,
incremental values, and they are also

507
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:56,400
handled differently. The increment
values are deducted from the property

508
00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:02,640
tax values. So, the city does not
receive any tax for those properties.

509
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:07,440
They are um they are not factored um
into the equations.

510
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,560
So let's show you an example of a
residential

511
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:15,040
bill.
Um this is a sample olivet percentage of

512
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:19,520
the total tax too. So you can see the
assessed valuation

513
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:24,880
um in the middle says total valuation is
64380.

514
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:30,640
If you were to divide that by 19% you'd
get the appraised value 338,

515
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:35,520
almost 339.
So, this property had a tax bill of

516
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:41,040
$4,412
in 2025.

517
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:47,359
It was actually $4362 plus the sewer
lateral fee of $50. It's assessed on

518
00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:52,800
every property for that program. Um, you
can see on the right side the city of

519
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:59,880
the amount that pertain to the city of
for our property tax rate that we set is

520
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,880
652.81.

521
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:09,920
And you'll see on the next page that
that amount totals 15% of the total tax

522
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:15,920
that was assessed on this property. You
can see the number of other um taxing

523
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:21,520
entities and the school district up at
the top. So 15% is what was assessed for

524
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:25,160
this property's residential property tax
by the city of Olivet.

525
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:33,280
Next is personal property. that includes
cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles,

526
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:38,079
recreational vehicles, and uh businesses
equipment, large equipment. Every year,

527
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:44,000
the county assessor sends us a form and
we fill it out um after where what we

528
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:49,920
owned as of January 1st that has to be
turned in um by April 1st of each year.

529
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:54,560
And then the St. Lewis County Assessor's
Office uses the true value or a tradein

530
00:41:52,400 --> 00:42:00,079
value to determine the appraised value
of that equipment or those vehicles, the

531
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:07,200
personal property. And they use an
assessed valuation um percentage of 33

532
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:13,119
and a3, so onethird of the tradein value
for your vehicle um or vehicles.

533
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:19,599
The next page shows what [clears throat]
a property tax would be for a 2000 a

534
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:24,319
year 2000 passenger car worth $300. I
had a hard time finding one property

535
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:29,280
that had just one car so I could give
the example. So so this vehicle's

536
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,599
tradein value is $300.
Um and the assessed value is one third

537
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:40,160
or $100.
And you can see that um the third item

538
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:45,599
down is our city of et property tax rate
or tax fee

539
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:51,599
property tax of $142.
It's equal to about 10.6% of the total

540
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:57,359
bill. You'll also see a flat fee on
there for 550. That's because the city

541
00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:02,480
does charge a flat $5.50 fee for every
every vehicle that we have uh that

542
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:07,839
owners have in the city.
So for property tax it uh all of it

543
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:13,599
receives about 11% of the tax bill or
they we did in 2025.

544
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:20,160
You'll also see the road and bridge all
of it and that's less than 1% and that's

545
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:26,160
just the road and bridge tax that every
city receives and we use that for our

546
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:30,240
capital projects and our roads. Um
calculating and setting the rate follows

547
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:35,520
a specific process. I'm going to show
you the process we follow should follow

548
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:40,960
every year and it follows follows a
specific timeline. Um, initially St.

549
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Louis County publicizes their
preliminary assessment roles. So that

550
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:48,720
happens in early to mid July and that's
for residential, commercial and personal

551
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,920
property
um, new construction and tiff

552
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:59,040
incremental values. The city of Alvette
and other taxing entities download those

553
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:03,920
roles and they enter the data and they
also download the Missouri state auditor

554
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,520
calculator. We input the values into the
calculator and we upload the data to the

555
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:13,280
Missouri state auditor's portal for
review. They um respond usually within 3

556
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:18,319
days and we receive an email
notification as well that it is that our

557
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:25,040
review is ready and we can download
their perform proforma or form um for

558
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:30,720
our records. And this is them basically
um approving the rate or giving us the

559
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:36,160
rate based on the inputs and that
matches our information from our use of

560
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:41,760
the calculator. It's a it's a check um a
way to check the information. Next, um

561
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:46,880
the city prepares their preliminary real
and property tax rates for information

562
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:52,800
um of given to the city officials and
the public and that is from the

563
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:57,200
preliminary assessment reports. Then, uh
St. Louis County residents and property

564
00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:01,760
owners can appeal their property
appraisals

565
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:06,319
um to the board of equalization
um by the second Monday in July. When

566
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:13,040
these hearings are held from July until
the last Saturday in August, um and once

567
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:19,440
that is complete, the county has final
assessments to provide um to taxing

568
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:23,520
entities and that's usually midepptember
and they post those to their website.

569
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:28,800
the city of Olivet and other taxing
entities downloads download those final

570
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:34,319
post board of equalization assessment
roles and again utilize the Missouri

571
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:38,640
auditor's calculator set final numbers
upload it to the auditor portal we do

572
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:46,640
the whole process again and obtain the
auditor's performer this year the um

573
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:51,680
post VOE rates were miraculously set on
September 4th so I was able to quickly

574
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:57,920
incorporate those
into our presentation into our packet.

575
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:02,400
So the final rates and they have been um
reviewed by the state auditor. Um they

576
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:09,200
actually were working yesterday and sent
it yesterday. But so that is done. Uh

577
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:16,000
the next step will be for us to uh
publish a public notice and then hold a

578
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:25,839
a public hearing to review and then ask
the council to approve the rates.

579
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:32,400
So after the rates are set, um we and
approved by the council, we certify the

580
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:37,599
rates with our um our clerk um filling
out paperwork and sending a we send a

581
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:42,880
copy of the ordinance to this St. Louis
County um

582
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:47,440
uh revenue office. St. Louis County
prepares the tax bills. Those are

583
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:53,760
delivered to homeowners in November
and they charge us 1.5%

584
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:59,920
for the preparation and delivery of
those bills and then that fee is

585
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:05,359
deducted from from our payments.
Um, usually there's a one month lag um

586
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:10,000
in the receipts that we receive from so
if they receive payments in November,

587
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:14,560
we'll receive them usually in December.
Sometimes there are multiple payments

588
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:18,240
during busy busy months. Um but the
majority of the payments are received by

589
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:26,560
February.
So December through February.

590
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:31,920
Um the 2026 real and property tax rates
um as I mentioned were posted on

591
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:37,599
September 4th. Told you about the
process that we went through. You can

592
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:43,040
see the rates are here for you and they
were um should be also in the ordinance

593
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:47,440
that we uh prepared for you. And then
you can see the um St. Louis County

594
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:52,640
assessment
how they present that on their website

595
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,640
what we download from that um from that
website.

596
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:03,280
» So
>> how does this compare to uh the previous

597
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:09,520
year?
>> Right. I did that calculation and I have

598
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:16,160
it ready for you. So, it's about um a
little more than 2.7% for the

599
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:21,040
residential and u personal property tax
and then there's also an increase for

600
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:27,280
debt. The um the total increase or total
change is about 4%. So, I can show you

601
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:34,000
that um at the next meeting
>> 4%. But that so that's more than CPI but

602
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:37,839
that is based on when we um provide the
information to do the calculation for

603
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:43,280
our debt service that doesn't have the
John Hackencock limit. It's basically we

604
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:49,119
indicate what we need for a debt service
um what we need for reserve and what our

605
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:56,160
payments are coming up and it's based on
the um um assessments and u the

606
00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:00,480
correlating amount is what we need to
pay the debt service. So, that's a

607
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:07,280
little bit of an outlier. Um, but the
the tax, the ceiling limited u property

608
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:12,880
tax and real estate tax is a little bit
more than 2.7% and that would make sense

609
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:16,880
because we're able to have that new
construction bump of one year, but I'll

610
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:21,040
show all of that in great detail for you
on the 22nd. And I can go ahead. Well,

611
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,119
to clarify, when you say 4% and I'm
forgetting the term,

612
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:29,359
annoying me all night, but when we say
if the tax rate was 6% last time, you're

613
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,640
going to 4% you're saying it's like 6.24
now, or are you saying it's you're not

614
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:35,040
saying it's 10 is what? Like,
>> oh no.

615
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,040
» Yeah, that's what I thought. It only 4%
increase from what it was last time.

616
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,640
» Correct.
>> Okay. What's the term when you just

617
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,160
increase the total?
>> Incremental.

618
00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:44,960
» Incremental.
>> No, no,

619
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,960
» that's okay. It'll come [snorts]
in sleep. So,

620
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:52,640
» yeah. mainly, you know, if constituents
ask us how come the rate is higher than

621
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,040
the CPI, we should have a good answer at
the council.

622
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,119
» New construction, it'll be new
construction. If you're taking a look at

623
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:03,280
real and property tax, it's the new
construction. Debt service is a little

624
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,119
bit different the way that it is
calculated. And again, that's just based

625
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:12,559
on what we need for debt service, what
we project our fund balance is going to

626
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:17,760
be, and you know, having one, you know,
a reasonable reserve. So, I can show you

627
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:21,839
those calculations as well.
basis. Where else?

628
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:30,559
» Oh, basis. Yeah.
>> So, here's an example um of a $325,000

629
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:33,960
home with a 2026 tax rate. Uh it would
be $665.

630
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:42,559
So in conclusion, this tax rate setting
process is guided by the Missouri state

631
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:46,720
statute, the Missouri state auditor's
office. There are procedures and

632
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:52,079
calculators as well as the Hancock
amendment which limits the amount of tax

633
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:57,359
increase again to actual growth CPI or
5% whichever is least. And state statute

634
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,800
requires public notification and
engagement through public notice. then a

635
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:05,839
public hearing process which will occur
again at your next meeting on September

636
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:10,640
22nd and then the tax rates are approved
by the highest authority in our city

637
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:15,680
which is our city council
um all of you of course and then

638
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,920
certified and sent to the county for tax
bill preparation

639
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:26,079
and this
um tax process and correlating revenue

640
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:31,200
provides not only for necessary
essential services but also for our debt

641
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:36,800
service and our pension. So those are
the the three components and you can see

642
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:42,400
the three components on the next page
which is just Q&A and if you'd like you

643
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:47,760
know just to have those for your
reference.

644
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,760
Oh I'm sorry. Do you have any questions
or comments other than you've already

645
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:55,680
brought up or
>> Yep. Just for the presentation on the

646
00:51:53,760 --> 00:52:01,200
22nd. It' be good to see side by side
what it was in 25 versus 26. Yeah, that

647
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,440
» I've got that ready for you.
>> That' be great for personal and home and

648
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:09,839
everything because that's
>> I agree. Not only an example and numbers

649
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,040
because it's just helpful when people
ask why it went up or why it goes down

650
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,240
next year or
>> maybe up for new construction this year.

651
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,160
Next year it might adjust back. Who
knows?

652
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:20,640
» Absolutely.
>> Okay.

653
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:24,960
» Well, it's always going to be always
usually going to be up a little bit

654
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:29,839
hopefully with new construction with the
activity that's happening in the city.

655
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:34,079
So, we'll have to see
>> other questions from council.

656
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,240
» All right, we'll have a second reading
on September 22nd. Thank you very much.

657
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:42,559
You bet.
>> Appreciate it.

658
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:48,160
» All right, we will move on to item 11.
Bill 3074.

659
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:51,839
» Bill 3074, an ordinance authorizing the
city of Alvette to enter into and

660
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:55,200
execute a contract with St. Louis
County, Missouri for vector control

661
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:59,440
services and authorizing and directing
the city manager of the city of Alvette

662
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:02,400
to enter into on behalf of said city a
contract with St. Louis County, Missouri

663
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,400
for vector control services. First
reading

664
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,480
» and Miss Jaffy, you're presenting this
one, right?

665
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,200
» All right. Um, good evening. So

666
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:30,720
last year, last March, um the city
council approved a contract with St.

667
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:37,599
Louis County for vector control, which
essentially is um spraying for

668
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:46,319
mosquitoes as well as handling any
rodent abatement on a as needed basis.

669
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:52,240
Um and it came to our attention uh a
week ago that uh St. St. Louis County

670
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:57,920
didn't have a copy of that contract and
they had not been providing the city

671
00:53:54,720 --> 00:54:03,760
services this past spring and summer.
And so after talking with St. Louis

672
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:10,240
County um they would not accept a copy
of last year's ordinance and so they

673
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:14,960
would like a new ordinance um in order
to provide services um moving forward.

674
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:22,480
The contract you can see the contract
fees right there. Um the contract is

675
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:28,480
typically for five years and it does um
larvae sighting, adult sighting and

676
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:35,319
rodent abatement. Um I believe there is
additional information

677
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,319
for St. Louis County.

678
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:43,440
Uh they provided some detailed
information about what that means. So

679
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:48,319
St. Louis County does surveillance of
all of St. Louis County uh tracking and

680
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:52,960
kind of looking to see where mosquitoes
are so that they can try and do um

681
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:58,800
either targeted larvae sighting, so
killing the larvae or targeted uh

682
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:07,520
spraying. And then of course the rodent
abatement um is for the Norway rat and

683
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:13,280
that is on a um per as needed basis. So
we would call them to say we are having

684
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:17,839
rodent issues please come out and uh
address that for us. So this is in front

685
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,280
of the count council for first reading
only.

686
00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:27,040
» I see the rates by hour. Do we have an
estimated total cost?

687
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:30,240
» Um it's about $2500
>> a year

688
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:34,640
» for a year.
>> Okay. Um

689
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:38,880
all right. Uh questions.
>> A couple questions. Um, do we know where

690
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:43,200
our sites are specifically that they
monitor?

691
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,359
» Not specifically. They are throughout
all of St. Louis County and I don't know

692
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:53,760
if there are sites specific in all of
it, but I can certainly ask them.

693
00:55:50,880 --> 00:56:00,319
Does Bruce know
>> in all of it?

694
00:55:56,559 --> 00:56:03,839
» Would you like to come to the mic?
>> Yes, you would.

695
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,480
That's called
>> Can we go through each one?

696
00:56:05,428 --> 00:56:10,799
[clears throat]
>> Well, I'm told

697
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:14,480
» Bruce McGregor public works mosquito
expert. Not really, but anyway. Um,

698
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,880
according to historical records, of
course, some of this is reported by

699
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:23,760
residents to the county, so there's an
eb and flow of locations, but there are

700
00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:28,559
66 different spots. Some of those are
combined uh well, we have very few

701
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:32,559
combined storm and sanitary sewers. we
have certain ditches around like there's

702
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:38,559
some along I170 in areas where we have
some ponding uh in there but I have a

703
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:42,079
list um we can request it at the end of
the season of where they've been out and

704
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:47,119
where they're monitoring where they uh
place uh the you know the larvide pods

705
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:51,680
and then with the mosquito spraying
residents can opt out on streets as

706
00:56:49,359 --> 00:56:55,839
well. That's an important note. So, if
there's a honeybee hive, they they do

707
00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:00,799
try to go late at night when the hives
are a little bit more dormant, but there

708
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:04,319
there is an option to opt out of a uh a
larvaiding or a spraying.

709
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,480
» Is it an individual house that's
optioned out or a street?

710
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,119
» A street.
>> How does that work if I don't want it or

711
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,240
my neighbor?
>> You you would call the county say we

712
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,520
want to be off the larvaiding list. You
might not be on there. I don't have that

713
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:19,119
one for the spraying. I just have the
one here right now with the uh where

714
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:24,720
they place the pellets and they check
first if the stagnant water has any um

715
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:29,979
like evidence that where they're going
to get some uh some growth.

716
00:57:27,959 --> 00:57:29,979
[clears throat]

717
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:36,720
» Well, you're saying I think
>> yeah explain it a little further. I

718
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,160
don't get it.
>> Okay. So, there's two different ways

719
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:44,400
that they're treating here. Okay. Number
one, they're trying to prevent water

720
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,559
from get becoming stagnant and allowing
the mosquitoes to breed, right? So that

721
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:52,079
there are areas that they go around and
they check that spots that have

722
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:56,559
historically held water that is
stagnant. Uh and then they would look at

723
00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:00,240
that water and to say, "Okay, this is a
good spot for us to put one of the

724
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:05,200
treatment pellets in there that would
would kill any of the the larae that are

725
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:08,480
growing." Okay. And then there's the
spray, right, that goes out in the

726
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:12,160
middle of the truck. They do that very
late at night or early in the morning.

727
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,799
They do that because honeybees at that
time are aren't active. They're in the

728
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:21,599
nest. So that's to mitigate the risk on
our good pollinators and our good

729
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:25,920
insects uh around. And that fogging is
to get the mosquitoes that are out in

730
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:31,200
the air that are adults.
Okay. So those are the two we to date in

731
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:36,799
and mine we have never used the um uh
rodent control but if we had a area that

732
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:40,799
was a trashinfested
uh a hoarding situation we could ask

733
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:44,480
them to come out and help with baiting
and trapping but we've never done that

734
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,559
in the years that I've been here.
>> Does that help?

735
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,280
» Yes.
>> So I'm assuming for the services they

736
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,720
didn't do over the spring and summer
we're not paying for that right.

737
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:58,000
» Well they they would they bill for
services as performed.

738
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:02,480
Okay. So it there's each year it's a
little bit different, right? We have a

739
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:06,079
lot of rain in the spring and that can
be right temperatures, right, for the

740
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:10,240
mosquitoes to breed or we could have
like periods of very dry like right now

741
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,040
where we're going to have very few
ponding areas that the mosquitoes would

742
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,680
be growing,
>> right? They go through the whole season

743
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:19,280
and then they actually bill us in
January for the previous year

744
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,640
» and
>> and we can request the information.

745
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,760
They're pretty good about getting us the
the information about when they've been

746
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:29,839
out and so on.
>> Okay. And the five-year contract, I'm

747
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:34,480
assuming we're locking in the rates. Is
that part of the contract?

748
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:38,960
» I don't know if they have a um I'd have
to look in the detail on it to see if

749
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,960
there's a uh like an adjustment, an
annual adjustment,

750
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,680
» right?
>> Uh clause. I don't I don't recall that

751
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:52,319
there is, but
>> yeah, I don't recall that these are up

752
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:57,119
slightly from last year. So, we may lock
them in or it may I mean, it's only a

753
00:59:54,079 --> 01:00:01,920
couple dollars that it's gone up. So,
>> Bruce, I'm a a little confused. In the

754
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:08,559
the document here, it says that
throughout St. Louis County, there's 234

755
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:15,599
sites that are pre-selected trap sites.
Uh we don't have 66 of those.

756
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:19,760
pre-selected trap site in all of it, I'm
assuming.

757
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:25,359
» Well, so I am looking here for uh
through a list that goes through um

758
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:30,319
various locations that they have either
checked or gone through like creek

759
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:38,559
behind BP AMO gas station, uh Standing
Water Railroad tracks, um creek along

760
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:42,480
1360 North Price. that I mean they check
it. It I don't I'd have to go into more

761
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:46,160
detail to see if they've uh they treated
the area or not, but it seems like

762
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:51,040
they're they're really quite active
going out um and looking at areas like

763
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:55,680
where the river to pair is the different
branches through the community. Some of

764
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:59,520
these might be resident driven.
>> So these are what you're seeing on the

765
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:03,359
screen is trap sites. I think what you
may be talking about is checks that

766
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:06,559
they're doing. This is a report from
from the county that they've gone out

767
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,559
and they've looked at in different
spots.

768
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:15,599
» Is there anything we can do to
minimize the amount of stagnant water?

769
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,200
» The best I mean on at the resident type
level, right? It is local things like

770
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,359
making sure you don't have standing
water on your own property, right? So

771
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:29,040
that could be gutters that don't drain,
a old tire in the backyard, a flower pot

772
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:32,480
that is full of leaves on the bottom is
sitting out somewhere. Those are the

773
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,319
best things owner can do is actively
look at your property and make sure you

774
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:40,799
don't have stagnant water uh you know
that's growing there. It's a little bit

775
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:46,079
harder for the general homeowner to go
out and clear like a ditch that might be

776
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,799
in the rightway behind their house or in
between properties to make sure the flow

777
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:53,599
is flow is going. But you know certainly
you know to look for those items but

778
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:58,000
that that's where the mosquitoes are
grown. Is that something the city could

779
01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:01,760
do to help with some of that drainage?
You know, is that

780
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:05,359
» that's the reach for us to to have the
capacity to go out and be really looking

781
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:10,960
at those things. Yeah.
>> I will say one thing though that u parks

782
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:15,520
did um is uh well actually I don't know
if it was parks or if it was all of it

783
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:18,079
in bloom um but there was some citizen
education around this mosquito bucket

784
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:22,079
challenge.
>> Yeah. where you actually put a bucket

785
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:26,640
out to attract mosquitoes, but it has
larvide in it so that the mosquito

786
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:30,240
» sterilize the swarm.
>> Yeah, they Well, not that. No, that is

787
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,319
some very cool science that is
happening, but okay, we're not there

788
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:38,559
yet.
>> Um, but no, this is just you set a

789
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:42,240
bucket full of water to bring the
>> bring the mosquitoes in, they lay eggs,

790
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:46,960
and the eggs die.
>> Okay. Um I

791
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:51,680
having a little bit of background in the
science of this um I don't have any

792
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:58,880
problem with larvaiding. I do have a
problem with adulticiditing with the

793
01:02:53,760 --> 01:03:03,839
spray that is broadcast into the air and
only works if it happens to hit a

794
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:08,480
mosquito that's in its adult phase at
that moment when it is being sprayed. It

795
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:14,079
is also very effective at killing any
other winged insect

796
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:19,359
um that it might be flying at that time.
It's indiscriminate.

797
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Um as opposed to the larvaide which
targets specifically the larvae. Um so I

798
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:33,760
am not and the science also does not
demonstrate that adulting is effective

799
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:40,799
at controlling mosquito populations
where larva sighting is shown to be um

800
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:47,039
effective. So I think I would like to
know a little bit more information about

801
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:51,520
um
the counties. It sounds like it's very

802
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:53,200
targeted when they do the adult
deciding.

803
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,559
» Absolutely.
>> So, I'd like to know a little bit more

804
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:03,760
about that process, what the threshold
trigger levels are and then what

805
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:11,119
additional um precautions
>> are taken and in place to minimize any

806
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:17,680
of those um kind of fallon effects
>> that that happen from spraying. Um

807
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:21,520
» I know they do look at the climactic
conditions right before they go out you

808
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,880
know making sure that it is the optimal
time and we can get more information

809
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:29,359
from the department about you know
exactly the you know the the procedure

810
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:33,599
that they use to decide okay this is a
good night to send the crew out and and

811
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:37,280
this is why and or and vice versa you
know this is when we don't send the

812
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:41,920
trucks out uh for these conditions
because we don't want this to you know

813
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:46,559
to move more or disperse too much
>> with the Yeah. And we could I it's an

814
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:50,160
interesting question of could we target
to say we like laride and we want to

815
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,160
continue that but we don't
>> I think that's a greater a greater you

816
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,720
know question for discussion and in more
detail and get more information

817
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,039
» I think it'd be helpful to understand if
that's an option in the contract I

818
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:03,039
assume it would be it
>> it's come this has come up before over

819
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:06,640
the years um you know certainly
everybody you know the standing water

820
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:12,240
that's that's a really easy lowhanging
fruit to approach the um there's always

821
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,680
you know two sides on the adulticiding
and the spray Okay. Um, you know, some

822
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:20,000
people really really, you know, believe
in it. And then, you know, we really

823
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:24,480
want to watch that collateral damage,
uh, you know, with our other good

824
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:27,680
insects, we'll say.
>> Yeah.

825
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:32,559
» And just to be clear, too, this is not
the same as like there there's term

826
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:38,240
fogging out there where a truck would
just come by and just drive through the

827
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:42,240
whole city just spraying.
>> That's what it is. It's an atomizer. I

828
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:46,000
don't the science the technology behind
it. I don't have the exact details of

829
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:52,720
what it is. The city actually used to
have a machine for fogger that we used.

830
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:58,240
» But my my question is if a delta
sighting were to happen,

831
01:05:54,799 --> 01:06:03,359
» it it would be in the one location where
it is um

832
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:08,240
» or or is it
>> it's discriminate. It is not like just

833
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:12,640
random driving around everywhere just
just to do it.

834
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:16,240
And we have the um I have a route and a
location from that. I have to out

835
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:19,520
» reach out to you ahead of time to say,
"Hey, we're going to do these five areas

836
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:21,760
or no?"
>> No.

837
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,720
» Okay. So, they decide what what area
they want to do and they target those

838
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:28,559
and they do specific ones where maybe
residents called or maybe they've

839
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:31,839
noticed a significant
>> Right. This his based on historical

840
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:36,319
data, this is one where we've noticed
it's at the low of a of an area and

841
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:39,039
we've noticed exceptional. Is it
possible to share with us the areas for

842
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,240
each
>> I can we can get those

843
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:47,520
» that'd be helpful you know at least the
historical one and and um uh I can find

844
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:51,039
that I may even have it in in the files
here I just happen to have this one with

845
01:06:49,039 --> 01:06:53,039
the larva sighting here all the
different locations

846
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:56,000
» how often were they treated I don't even
know if they go more than once to an

847
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,760
area or not you know a resident calls
multiple times are you going to go

848
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:01,760
multiple times I don't know
>> okay that'd be helpful thank you

849
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:06,079
» yeah sure
>> so for the record how does someone

850
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:08,880
report an area that is confessed.
>> He called the same the county the county

851
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,839
office.
>> Okay. And if you want to opt out of the

852
01:07:10,799 --> 01:07:14,319
service, what do you do?
>> The same thing you report in.

853
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,000
» Same. Okay.
>> Yeah.

854
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,200
» Okay.
>> But I guess it'd be interesting unless

855
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:24,720
they found that they think your area
needs adult sighting or love sighting,

856
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:28,319
you may not ever be serviced anyway.
>> It's possible. Yeah.

857
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:32,079
» Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, a follow-up item is to

858
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,000
get clarity on which sites, how many,
how often, um, how they choose, those

859
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,039
kind of things.
>> Okay.

860
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:45,440
» And I do have some further information
that I pulled from the Xeries Society,

861
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:48,720
which is on invertebrate conservation,
um, an article from St. Louis Public

862
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:54,240
Radio. I have a few different articles
here. Um, if council members are

863
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:57,799
interested in learning more about
spraying for mosquitoes,

864
01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:03,440
All right. Any other follow-up
questions?

865
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,319
Okay. Well, we'll have a second reading.
Um, and obviously that uh other

866
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:10,640
information will be helpful. Thank you
very much for stepping up unannounced

867
01:08:08,319 --> 01:08:17,199
unexpectedly.
>> Okay. Uh, can we please move on to item

868
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:20,880
number 12, consideration of 2026 2027
Missouri qualified vendor list pickup

869
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:24,159
purchase for the public works
department.

870
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:31,359
» All right. Good evening again, Bruce
McGregor, public works. Um, I am here to

871
01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:38,159
you to ask for a new truck to replace uh
another oldest vehicle in the fleet uh

872
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:43,520
truck that at public works. This is uh
has been predominantly the mechanics

873
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:48,719
pickup. And uh over the past two years
doing snow removal operations

874
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:54,319
uh with Five Oaks in full service uh
we've determined the need for a smaller

875
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:59,120
vehicle, a little bit more more nimble.
And with this truck uh replacement

876
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:04,799
coming up, we want to outfit this one
with a plow to supplement the uh the

877
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:10,719
rest of the equipment to help fill in
the gaps. Uh really we had always uh

878
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:15,359
plowed over at the old Grand View site
where the community center was. So now

879
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:20,000
we have that one and we have Five Oaks
and parks departments pulled around as

880
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:24,880
well doing the well the other uh city
parks. So, uh, we want to have a, uh, an

881
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:32,040
extra vehicle to to help fill in and
supplement staff. So, uh, this is for a

882
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:32,040
2027 F250.

883
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:39,120
» All right.
>> Looking at the the price that we have

884
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:43,120
here, um, it looks like the 48,000 and
in the capital improvement there was

885
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:46,560
68,000. Is this a rare example where
it's underbudgeted?

886
01:09:44,159 --> 01:09:51,440
» No, we don't have the plow equipment. So
that is for the uh so so whenever we

887
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:55,679
build out a truck, there's the truck
that you get from the dealer and then it

888
01:09:53,279 --> 01:10:00,480
goes to an equipment builder. So they
install like the if it doesn't come with

889
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:05,440
a backup alarm, a backup uh beacon, they
do the emergency lights. In this case,

890
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:09,840
we'll have a uh combo electric hydraulic
snowplow to go on there. Uh so that's

891
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:14,560
what the difference is uh in there for
the rest of the equipment built.

892
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:20,239
» Is it a diesel? No, this is just a gas
uh a gas engine. We diesel is a whole

893
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:23,920
another discussion.
>> Clouds also serve as salt trucks. Do

894
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,760
they get
>> We didn't plan this one to be a salt

895
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:32,719
truck as well, but yes, all of the other
trucks have what we call VBOX spreaders.

896
01:10:30,719 --> 01:10:36,560
And they have saddle tanks to hold
liquid calcium chloride that we use to

897
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:40,159
supplement the salt when the weather is
below 18°.

898
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:44,080
» Is there a reason why this one wouldn't
have the spreader on the back? We don't

899
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:48,239
know if we have a need for that right
now. Um really we have the more of a

900
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:51,760
time that we need to get the lots
cleared uh and then we can send the

901
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:55,280
other trucks out with the bigger
spreaders uh on there, but certainly

902
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,520
it's something we could add in the
future, but we didn't plan for it this

903
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,239
go around.
>> But it's possible to add

904
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,400
» Absolutely. It's a regular pickup with
the weight class. Uh we could put a

905
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:09,040
small B or small spreader in the back.
Uh but we feel like we have it's getting

906
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:13,719
the snow off. We have capacity with the
other trucks to do uh to do salting.

907
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,719
» All right. Any other questions from
anyone?

908
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,840
» I'll take a motion then, please.
>> I'd like to make a motion to authorize

909
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:27,679
the city manager to issue a purchase
order to Joe Mackin Ford in an amount

910
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:33,040
not to exceed $48,56
for the purchase of one 2027 Ford F250

911
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:35,040
four-wheel drive as quoted.
>> Second.

912
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:37,679
» All right. Motion and second. Can we
please pull the council? Council member

913
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,440
Dragel,
>> yes.

914
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,719
» Council member Solomonov,
>> yes.

915
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,640
» Council member Clark,
>> yes.

916
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,760
» Chairman Pro Bashan Elman,
>> yes.

917
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,520
» Mayor Lewis,
>> yes.

918
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,719
» Motion has passed.
>> Thank you.

919
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:50,000
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

920
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:53,760
» All right, we'll move on to item 13.
Request for approval to repair the air

921
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,760
conditioning system on the primary fire
truck.

922
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:05,440
» Good evening, Mr. Mayor, city council,
Miss Yakley. My name is Steve Carman,

923
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:11,040
fire chief, city of Alvette Fire
Department. During a recent maintenance

924
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:17,840
check, technicians identified severe
degragation within the pumper's AC

925
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:22,239
system. Uh the crew came to us and was
complaining that the AC was blowing out

926
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:27,520
warm air. So, we had them take it down
to Sentinel and Sentinel run a test on

927
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:32,320
it and figured out that the compressor
was bad. And as they took it apart, they

928
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:37,679
found metal shavings all throughout the
hose lines in the truck.

929
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:43,600
So once metallic debris enters into the
hose line, it contaminates the entire

930
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:48,800
circuit, the condenser, evaporator line,
compressor. So flushing the system is

931
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:55,360
insufficient and doesn't guarantee
reliability

932
01:12:50,960 --> 01:13:00,000
as residual I'm sorry metal will cause
repeated

933
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:05,199
immediate compressor failure. So the
fire department is requesting a motion

934
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:11,600
to authorize the repair of the fire
trucks air conditioning system at a cost

935
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:14,960
not to exceed $25,100.
If you have any questions, I can take

936
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:20,960
questions at this time.
That was a rough couple weeks.

937
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:24,000
» It has been. Yes. Yes. Never happens at
a good time.

938
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:27,920
» No. No. With something that expensive,
does it come with a warranty at least of

939
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:32,719
$25,000?
>> Well, I have to check that. I didn't ask

940
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,760
that question. The sticker shock was
right.

941
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:38,800
» Do they know where the metal shavings
are coming from?

942
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:44,320
» It's the compressor. The compressor
basically was falling apart inside and

943
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,679
sent the metal shavings throughout the
hose lines.

944
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,760
» You're tough ass.
>> They can handle it.

945
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,080
» Well, they're wearing light clothing in
there, so you know, very cooling

946
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:55,711
clothing.
>> It's going to get cold in a few weeks

947
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,159
anyway. Let them hang on for a while.
[laughter]

948
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:02,080
» All right. Well, I'll have you vote on
that.

949
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:05,280
» You have any questions?
>> No, I don't have

950
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:08,239
» No. All right. Well, all right. Do we
hear a motion then? I'll make a motion

951
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:12,880
to authorize the repair of the
firetruck's air conditioning system at a

952
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:16,480
cost not to exceed $25,100.
>> I second.

953
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:17,920
» Yeah. You please pull the council.
>> Council member Dragal.

954
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,440
» Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.

955
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,719
» Yes.
>> Council member Clark.

956
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,640
» Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Helman.

957
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,920
» Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.

958
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:25,840
» Yes.
>> The motion is passed.

959
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:31,920
» Thank you.
>> How soon will it be done? Um, originally

960
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:37,440
he told me two to four weeks, but then
um, just in time for the pool. But, um,

961
01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:40,239
I had a conversation with him and he
said it would take probably a week.

962
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,560
» Okay.
>> So,

963
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:46,080
» all right. Enjoy the coolness.
>> Thank you.

964
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:51,600
» All right. We'll move on to item 14,
consideration of 2026 2027 Missouri

965
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:54,640
qualified vendor list pickup purchase.
Pickup purchase for the parks division.

966
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,239
Everyone gets a truck.
>> If I can, you would get a truck.

967
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:01,440
Exactly. That's right.
>> Good evening, uh, mayor and city council

968
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:07,120
members. I'm Patrick McGee, the
assistant, uh, park and recck director.

969
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:11,760
Billy Beverly is out, uh, on vacation.
Uh, but we are here to ask, um, to

970
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:15,760
replace one of our trucks. This is kind
of our doit all truck. It goes around

971
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:20,800
and picks up all the trash from all the
dog pots, all the parks, um, hauls waste

972
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:25,920
wheelers to and from special events.
Kind of a do-it-all truck for um, for

973
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,560
our parks department. So, it is an
important uh we replacing the oldest

974
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:36,480
truck in our parks fleet and we asked
for your consideration um and helping us

975
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,239
replace us with something. We also did
include um in the bid. You'll notice

976
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:44,719
that u a headache rack, which I didn't
know exactly what that was, but to keep

977
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:47,920
things from breaking the back window um
if it's in the back of the truck from

978
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:49,760
sliding forward and hitting a window
>> rack is what?

979
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,320
» Yeah, it's called a headache rack. I
thought it was a great name for it,

980
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:57,840
actually. Yeah.
>> And uh the other um option was to do a

981
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:02,080
spray-in bed liner. We had noticed that,
you know, when we put a lot of that

982
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:05,520
trash in the tra in the bed of the truck
that that stuff was getting under the

983
01:16:03,679 --> 01:16:09,440
plastic bed liner and kind of
deteriorating the bed a lot quicker. So

984
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:14,880
the spray and bed liner will kind of
protect the bed a lot longer. So, and

985
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:20,719
it's for relatively, you know, under
$1,000 to do that, too. So, we are

986
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:24,640
trying to keep our stuff uh looking
nicer and this is um definitely one of

987
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:27,679
the trucks that we could use replaced
for sure.

988
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:31,360
» Okay.
All right. Um questions from the

989
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:36,320
council.
>> Just the frugal part of me has to ask.

990
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:39,760
We have public works with their trucks.
You guys have your own trucks. Is there

991
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,280
ever an opportunity to share some of the
vehicles or are they totally I guess

992
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:48,239
they're parked in different places?
Bruce likes big trucks and we have to

993
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:51,679
get in small spaces often. You know, you
see some of the trails throughout our

994
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:56,719
parks. We have to have something that's
maybe a little more nimble. Uh smaller

995
01:16:53,520 --> 01:17:02,000
like an F-150 paired to an F250, just a
kind of a different animal. Uh this is

996
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:06,640
also, you know, it's not towing large
loads, but it is moving. It's got an 8

997
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:11,120
foot bed, so it's a fullsize truck, so
we can use that. Um, a lot of Bruce's

998
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:17,360
vehicles and some of even our other
parks vehicles are it's like um

999
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:22,480
overkill, I guess would be the best way
to say it. Um, having the current truck

1000
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:25,920
we have now is a is a Chevy Silverado.
So, again, a smaller pickup. So, we're

1001
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:30,640
replacing like with like because that's
what works to get around to all those

1002
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:33,520
picnic spots and trails and it's it's
nice to have something that's smaller as

1003
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,719
opposed to a
>> got it

1004
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:40,640
» big beast of a truck. Am I correct that
I think we you'd allocated 55 thou this

1005
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,840
was the planned and we'd allocated
55,000 for this but we're going to get

1006
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,920
it for almost 10,000 less. Is that
correct?

1007
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:49,920
» That's correct.
>> So where did I'm just curious where's

1008
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,960
that 10,000 go?
>> Well it's going to it would stay in the

1009
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,199
capital improvement fund.
>> Yeah.

1010
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:59,120
» Um
and just knowing budgets as I know

1011
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,719
budgets likely going to be something
else.

1012
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:04,560
» Hypothetically an air conditioning
repair.

1013
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:07,520
» I hope not. Um, but if it does not get
spent, then it stays it stays in the

1014
01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:10,560
capital improvement fund.
>> Okay. Yeah.

1015
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:13,520
» But it's nice to have a rainy day if
things when things if things pop up,

1016
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,800
» right? If something else pops up.
>> Okay.

1017
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:20,480
» Good. Other questions from the council?
>> I noticed this both on the earlier truck

1018
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:25,360
thing, but didn't really think to ask
the question. Uh, the hybrid versus

1019
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:28,239
non-hybrid, was any effort made to look
at a hybrid version?

1020
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:33,520
» Um,
>> and I I have no idea what the price

1021
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:37,920
difference would be. I do know that uh
the electric versions were obviously out

1022
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:42,159
of our out of that price range and we
also don't have the capacity for

1023
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:48,480
charging stations and I don't believe
there are uh really available around a

1024
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:51,520
lot of spots around all of that if I'm
mistaken on that. I apologize.

1025
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,320
» Hybrid hybrid wouldn't be electric
necessarily.

1026
01:18:52,400 --> 01:19:00,239
» Yeah, that would be um we did not look
into any any hybrid um trucks for for

1027
01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:03,679
this truck specifically.
Perhaps something to think about as we

1028
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:06,960
look at when we replace future ones is
does it make sense or do they wear down

1029
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:09,600
sooner? I don't I don't know.
>> Yeah. And getting I think it'd be

1030
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:13,120
interesting to get kind of a cost
comparison if you know you you pay more

1031
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,159
for it upfront but
>> with gas two years, you know, does it

1032
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,920
even out?
>> Oh, well. All right.

1033
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:24,320
» First thoughts. [laughter]
>> All right. Having experience with hybrid

1034
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:29,520
vehicles, the nature of our driving
patterns doesn't really suit the

1035
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:34,000
recharging of the batteries means we
stop and go. We have a lot of idle time.

1036
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:39,679
We don't ever hit that high roadway
highway speed where you can really coast

1037
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:45,840
along and generate the battery, you
know, battery recharge in there. So, it

1038
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:49,440
it's not a great use. It's it's sort of
like the same thing with the diesel

1039
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:56,560
trucks with us. We never really get up
to uh full operating speed like highway

1040
01:19:52,800 --> 01:20:01,679
speeds for long duration for these um
emissions controls to really clean out

1041
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:06,080
the filters and regenerate and do the
things. It's just the nature of our

1042
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,880
driving that it isn't really suited for
some of these things. If that

1043
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,120
» it's interest you say that just because
I have a hybrid car that's two years old

1044
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:18,640
and I find that I do best when I'm
idling and or going slow and stop I it

1045
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,920
charges more on braking than it does on
actually when I go is when I get the

1046
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,880
when I go on highways I get the worst
>> miles per gallon. So

1047
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:27,840
» and that's my that's the same experience
for me.

1048
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:33,000
» Yeah. I haven't stop and go is when it's
at its best.

1049
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:33,000
» Yeah. Yeah. What do you consider?

1050
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:39,760
» I will keep that mind in there because
my experiences on my hybrid.

1051
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:43,840
» I still think we're gonna move forward
through with the hybrids and I might be

1052
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,560
different,
you know.

1053
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:48,239
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. But I do think, you know, I'm fine

1054
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:51,920
moving forward now. But I really, you
know, it's

1055
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:56,719
» each of these decisions that we make,
>> right? Whenever there's an opportunity

1056
01:20:54,320 --> 01:21:01,679
to make a decision that's better for the
climate and potentially hopefully better

1057
01:20:59,199 --> 01:21:03,840
for us long term, that's going to be
where I'm going to want to want to move

1058
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,480
us.
>> Maybe curious what other cities are

1059
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:10,159
doing if it's if they found on hybrid
trucks something.

1060
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:15,360
» Yeah, I I I think there are certainly
some opportunities in the fleet um for

1061
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:18,480
for some of these improvements. I don't
know whether we're ready in the heavy

1062
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:23,679
trucks yet
>> uh for those. I know in the emission

1063
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:27,600
side of it, like I said, with the diesel
trucks that we went through with these

1064
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,760
almost zero emissions with these, it's
called selective catalyst reduction. We

1065
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:36,320
went that route and it really was
disastrous for us. Uh to the point that

1066
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:40,480
we're going back to to gasoline vehicles
whenever we can because it's just the

1067
01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:44,560
way we're operating the vehicles.
>> So, um I'm I'm very hesitant about

1068
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:48,800
jumping into some of those.
>> Sure. And I think technology will

1069
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:51,760
continue to improve and and things will
be road tested elsewhere which will

1070
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,960
provide
>> you know Patrick brought up a great

1071
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:58,639
point you know for full electric
vehicles you know there is an

1072
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:02,639
opportunity here if we can get the
charging infrastructure in you know I

1073
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,320
think that there is there is a use for
that certainly our cold weather

1074
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:10,880
operations are a different you know use
pattern with the batteries that's

1075
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:14,239
something to be wary of uh uh with those
uh in our experiences even with our

1076
01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:19,040
lighting and the other items that are
electric, but there are some

1077
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:21,600
opportunities for uh for adding to the
fleet in the electric.

1078
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,800
» That would be interesting as we redesign
parks, buildings, and you know,

1079
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:27,840
maintenance areas is do we put an
electric charger in and build down the

1080
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:30,159
budget or something in the future?
Because we need the infrastructure

1081
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,639
before you can buy it because there's
not a lot to

1082
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,199
» go in in parallel, right? You know,
that's what you're looking at. You

1083
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:39,120
purchase the truck, but you have these
associated costs, whether it's the

1084
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:43,840
logos, the lamps, or the charging,
>> you know, in the garage and then the

1085
01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:48,400
cable and then to do those. Um, as we've
moved away from, you know, the trend has

1086
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:52,560
gone from full electric back to hybrid,
we might see some more efficiencies in

1087
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:56,639
the design and the delivery of those
trucks, you know, and vehicles having

1088
01:22:54,639 --> 01:22:59,679
more options uh for hybrid.
>> Yeah. And I don't know if the trucks

1089
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:03,040
have been focused as primary. It's more
maybe more passenger type price, but

1090
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,440
good for
>> something. So,

1091
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:10,560
» but I think maybe the question to our
city manager would be for future vehicle

1092
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:12,639
requests if we can get a see what the
difference in price. But we can

1093
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,920
certainly ask
>> gas hybrid versus electric just so we

1094
01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:18,639
have a better idea
>> of what that looks like and we can talk

1095
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:21,120
about it.
>> Yeah.

1096
01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:24,719
» All right.
>> Information is always helpful.

1097
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:29,040
» I'll ask if there's a motion.
>> I'll make a motion to authorize the city

1098
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:34,719
manager to issue a purchase order to Joe
Mockin Ford in an amount not to exceed

1099
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:39,639
$45,168.
>> Second. All right. Will we please pull

1100
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:39,639
the council?

1101
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,000
Council member Draguel.
>> Yes.

1102
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:47,280
» Council member Solomonov.
>> Yes.

1103
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:50,400
» Council member Clark.
>> Yes.

1104
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,360
» Council uh Chairman Prom Shan Halman.
>> Yes.

1105
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:53,280
» Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.

1106
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,920
» Motion has passed.
>> Where's Joe M? I don't know where that

1107
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,080
is.
>> You're getting good business from us.

1108
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,360
So,
>> all right. We'll move on. Item 15,

1109
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:05,480
authorization of an agreement for the
park ops storage building.

1110
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:13,360
» Hello again. It's uh Patrick McGee, the
assistant u parks and recreation

1111
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:18,800
director. Um for those of you that don't
know, our parks department, you know, we

1112
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:22,719
do did get a new park ops building uh
right around the same time that uh five

1113
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:27,760
oaks had opened. And that became a home
for, you know, our trucks, a lot of

1114
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:32,080
equipment. And
one thing that we realized really

1115
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:37,760
quickly is that we have a large lot over
u right behind the former site at the uh

1116
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:46,000
old community center at 9723 Grand View.
And we as we have started to really put

1117
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:50,159
everything away in that building. We
realized that we still had a lot of

1118
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:54,400
highv value equipment, whether it be
toolcat attachments, uh whether it be

1119
01:24:52,560 --> 01:25:00,000
tractors that we were trying to squirrel
away in other areas like our Stacy

1120
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:06,320
storage building, um as well as
expensive um tools, you know, other

1121
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:10,480
machinery, uh mowers, uh tractors,
things that we were trying to squeeze in

1122
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:17,840
a building that was very difficult for
us to do. Um, we had really worked hard

1123
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:22,560
to find a solution to that. Um, to see
if there was room at public works, you

1124
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:26,719
know, to see where we could put some of
this equipment because, as you know,

1125
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:31,360
leaving anything, especially steel
outside all year round. It's, you know,

1126
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:36,000
we're dealing with rust. We're dealing
with things uh breaking, just kind of

1127
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:39,760
seizing up and not working when we need
them most. And those are some of those

1128
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:44,400
attachments for our tool cap for
instance are they just take up a lot of

1129
01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:47,679
space. We have also kind of repurposed
every single inch and I encourage

1130
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:53,120
anybody if they ever want to see our
park ops building. It is probably one of

1131
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:58,639
the most organized places I've ever
been. Uh we have outlines for tools and

1132
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:04,480
tool pegs uh pegboards everywhere for
tools but we've repurposed that beyond

1133
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:08,719
its use. And we our horiculturist is
growing plants on a shelf on the side of

1134
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:14,719
a garage bay on the side where his truck
parks. And we're just trying to maximize

1135
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:19,120
our efficiency so that we can use that
building and also keep the value of

1136
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:24,239
these tools that we have spent a lot of
money on to to last as long as we need

1137
01:26:22,159 --> 01:26:30,639
them to. And this building would just be
a three-sided building. Um we worked

1138
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:35,040
with uh Gordian which is a SourceBall
provider and SourceWell allows

1139
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:40,320
government nonprofits to buy prevetted
products and services and they also help

1140
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:44,400
us find a contractor to do this without
the uh doing our own independent bidding

1141
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:48,480
process because we would have had to do
concrete. We'd have had to do all this

1142
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:54,159
piece by piece and as parks and recck
people, not necessarily our strong suit

1143
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:58,719
to go out and build this uh you know
storage structure for our tools. So we

1144
01:26:56,239 --> 01:27:02,880
wanted to work with them. So Gordian set
us up with a company uh construct

1145
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:07,360
construction company called Brown and
Routt and they put together a plan which

1146
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:11,440
you'll see in your um submission here
that goes through everything that we

1147
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:15,920
needed. Uh this building does have three
bays and at the end of those bays there

1148
01:27:14,239 --> 01:27:20,159
would be
shelves for us to with our tool kats we

1149
01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:24,480
can actually place things on those
shelves inside of those bays. So whether

1150
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:29,520
it be a mowing attachment, a flail
cutter, um a grapple, a grappler

1151
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:33,679
attachment, all these things that we use
on a very frequent basis, we can

1152
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:38,560
actually put on those shelves. And this
would get stuff out of the area to where

1153
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:44,080
you can actually work on projects inside
the garage, which they currently cannot

1154
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:48,400
do. And then there would also be a
external building, just an enclosed

1155
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:54,239
building with with one man door. That
would be where all the horiculturist

1156
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:57,520
tools and supplies and things like that
they need to keep under locking key

1157
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:02,719
which is things you know whether it be
chemicals, herbicides, things like that.

1158
01:27:59,679 --> 01:28:08,560
So it is does kind of create a safe
haven for that stuff too. So, it is

1159
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:11,840
this was a long and thoughtout project
that we've been I think working on for

1160
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:17,520
at least two years out of the three
years I've been here. And I think it is

1161
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:21,760
a good direction for for the city and to
extend the life of all of our equipment,

1162
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:26,159
tractors, and other things and to keep
this stuff covered and out of the

1163
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:29,280
elements. So,
>> happy to answer any questions that you

1164
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:33,280
might have.
>> Questions from council? Is there a

1165
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:37,440
reason we wouldn't do just an enclosed
building with garage doors?

1166
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:41,760
» Um, so we went through so many
iterations of this building to see

1167
01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:45,679
obviously we do have the enclosed
building already. Um, this building was

1168
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:49,199
mainly just to keep stuff out of the
elements and keep stuff off of the the

1169
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:54,719
parking lot and also to kind of bring
some sense of organization to that

1170
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:58,000
space. it is, you know, a large lot and
we knew that we had the building still

1171
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:02,960
for things that we really need to keep,
you know, HVAC controlled, you know,

1172
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:06,320
things like that. So, that was um the
reason the three-sided building is we're

1173
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:10,639
really just looking for
>> something to cover and cost. Yeah, it'll

1174
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:17,360
have a roof. It'll be uh if you look at
the last page, there's um kind of a

1175
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:21,040
» a
an idea of what of what they're

1176
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:24,880
building. They're still working on, you
know, before we enter this contract,

1177
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,880
they'll work up shop drawings and and
actually kind of give us an idea of what

1178
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:32,400
this would look like on the space.
>> And then, uh, brand new soccer goals

1179
01:29:30,639 --> 01:29:36,880
that we bought last year, are they going
to go are they in a different building?

1180
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:40,239
» Uh, you said the side by
>> the soccer goals.

1181
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:44,719
» Oh, the soccer goals. Those will go in
the backside of that behind the uh

1182
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:50,480
behind there. So, they will be covered.
And our park staff did build a large

1183
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:54,320
rack um that we can actually slot those
in cuz before when we had soccer goals,

1184
01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:57,679
they would just get lane basically laid
down in a pile

1185
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:01,840
» and you know, water would get inside of
them and they would rust and our park

1186
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:06,400
staff did a great job of creating
storage for those and um really making

1187
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:09,040
it easy to put them back together each
year, too. So

1188
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:13,600
» cool. Okay, thanks.
>> So the renderings, there's a page just

1189
01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:18,239
before this one. are those the more
active um or more accurate drawings that

1190
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:22,320
one where it
>> so that's that's what it looks like um

1191
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:25,920
you know and we just kind of wanted to
give you an idea of like a little closer

1192
01:30:24,159 --> 01:30:29,199
up which would be in those bays and
those are things that we we're not we

1193
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:34,080
don't we have a mowing contract for
instance so our mowers don't need to be

1194
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:39,040
you know stuck in the shop where we have
to you know kind of move around them

1195
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:42,960
just we have a lot of ingress and egress
problems when we put all that equipment

1196
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:47,040
in there and you need get something to
get it out. It's just um tough. We also

1197
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:52,239
designed that park ops building to have
a wash bay and with Brian growing plants

1198
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:56,400
along that wall, we can't wash our
trucks in there without, you know,

1199
01:30:54,639 --> 01:30:59,760
damaging or doing anything to to his
plants, too. So, we're trying to utilize

1200
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:05,120
the places the way it was meant to be
and also kind of safeguard that stuff.

1201
01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:09,360
» So, the fencing or gates that are in
front of that that you anticipate those

1202
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:13,440
being part of each of the bays that
there's some kind of barrier? So yeah, I

1203
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:17,120
think that that uh would would
definitely be something that we would

1204
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:22,400
like to do to keep that stuff safe. That
as you know that build or that lot is

1205
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:24,560
kind of accessible um if you just kind
of

1206
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:28,000
» there isn't a fence or a gate
>> there. There is

1207
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:33,360
» on the from the parking lot in is there
>> there is our park staff built a gate for

1208
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:38,080
that but um there's also like if you're
walking up the trail on the side of the

1209
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:41,120
baseball fields like you can sneak
around there if you really need to. So,

1210
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:45,199
» so you do plan to have a gate with
locks?

1211
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:50,159
» Yeah, we plan to to do that after the
building gets done. We want to put some

1212
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:54,719
kind of a access area up there, but we
do have a gate coming into the parking

1213
01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:58,639
lot, but for this this was kind of our
our iteration and if we have enough

1214
01:31:57,199 --> 01:32:02,000
funds to do that, we definitely would
like to put some kind of a closure on it

1215
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:06,480
to keep everything safe.
>> Have there been any issues with theft

1216
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:11,440
with the equipment and items just kind
of sitting on the parking lot? We have

1217
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:15,679
had, you know, I think one of the things
when you put stuff in a pile, it gets a

1218
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:19,600
little tougher to realize when
something's gone until you need it and

1219
01:32:17,679 --> 01:32:23,920
then you're like, did it get, you know,
misplaced? Was it broken? You know,

1220
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:28,080
there's things like that. Um, I'm sure
anywhere where people are trying to

1221
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:34,560
scrap metal when all of that essentially
is is metal that people could take for

1222
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:38,960
scrap. Um, you know, I don't think we've
had a a huge problem of theft back

1223
01:32:36,639 --> 01:32:43,040
there, but I know that, you know, that
trucks have, you know, been gone through

1224
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:47,040
in that back lot or in the upper lot up
there before, too. So, I think it's just

1225
01:32:45,199 --> 01:32:52,639
something that we want to make sure we
can protect it as as much as possible.

1226
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:56,560
» And then this will is, if I'm
understanding the layout, will this sit

1227
01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:00,719
perpendicular to like if this is the
main storage shed that exists, will this

1228
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:06,480
sit perpendicular in the back of the
lot? So, that's a great question. So,

1229
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:11,280
the original idea for us would be for it
to be west of where the current one is.

1230
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:14,800
So, if you walked out the garage bay of
the current park ops building, you would

1231
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:19,440
be looking at it.
>> Now, if any of you have ever been on

1232
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:23,920
that lot, it does have a slight downhill
slope. Then, it also slopes to a storm

1233
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:27,440
drain over on the right.
One thing that we found through this

1234
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:31,360
long long process was that that
increased the cost of concrete because

1235
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:36,159
then you have to deal with the downhill
slope. You also have to have it slope to

1236
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:40,159
the drain still because that water
that's going to run still has to get to

1237
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:45,199
that drain. And we are working with
Brown and Route to possibly identify

1238
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:50,400
when you walk out the park ops building
a space on the left which is still in

1239
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:54,080
the lot and would still be usable and it
still has and it's a little flatter. So

1240
01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:58,000
they are looking at at both of those
options to find because what we wouldn't

1241
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:02,159
want to do is if we build it straight in
front of the current park ops building

1242
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:06,080
and we're dealing with those slopes then
putting [snorts] shelves in there become

1243
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:11,120
unstable. If you want to put a vehicle
up on jacks to change a tire, you're

1244
01:34:08,480 --> 01:34:16,000
doing so on a on a slight incline that
you couldn't fix purely with concrete

1245
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:19,360
unless it was very expensive and a lot
of foundational work for the uh for the

1246
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:22,960
floor of the building. So,
>> so it sounds like the the actual

1247
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:27,280
location where this is going to go is
still somewhat

1248
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:32,080
» it is we have a um site meeting with
grounding route tomorrow and that we

1249
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:35,920
they have a full plan to build it on
that current site west of the current

1250
01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:40,639
building. Uh but one of the things that
we're trying to realize is that that

1251
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:45,440
slope could present problems with
shelving. It'll look,

1252
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:50,960
you know, but there will be a slope to
the sidewalk or to the um the um

1253
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:55,600
concrete. Thank you.
>> The concrete on the ground. And

1254
01:34:53,360 --> 01:35:00,960
» I just I think that that would be
difficult to put shelves up when you

1255
01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:04,719
have even just a a slight, you know,
decline. So, we just want to make sure

1256
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:08,719
that what we're putting up there is is
safe to do. So

1257
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:13,120
» just kind of in lie of our most recent
conversation seeing this lovely sloped

1258
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:17,679
roof and thinking is there a way it
could be oriented so that that slope

1259
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:22,239
faces south for future potential solar
panels.

1260
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:26,080
» Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but that location would
make, you know, it have to be that I

1261
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:29,920
think that location would probably be
pretty tricky because it's right at the

1262
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:34,080
entrance where people would be coming in
from the main parking lot and

1263
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,960
potentially could hinder traffic flow
and then it's closer to residential

1264
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:40,560
areas. So, I don't
>> I know you're considering all the

1265
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:45,920
things. Um, the building seems
important, necessary, and I'll just drop

1266
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:50,400
that little thing [laughter] to to add
into the considerations as well.

1267
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:54,159
» Fair.
And we have worked with uh you know sat

1268
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:58,560
down and talked with Carlos and and
Bruce as well about about this project

1269
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:03,440
along the way and uh quite a few
meetings about how we could do this. I

1270
01:36:00,719 --> 01:36:08,480
mean for a three-sided building uh has
had a lot of of thought put into it and

1271
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:12,639
our parks department is at the forefront
of that. they've been a uh pushing the

1272
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,920
envelope for this because, you know,
they do a lot of work and they're

1273
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:20,560
finally getting the tools to do those
things and they really hate to see those

1274
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:28,560
tools be left outside to endure whatever
St. Louis has to offer weatherwise. So,

1275
01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:32,159
all right, other questions
and if do I hear a motion, please? I'll

1276
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:36,880
make a motion to authorize the city
manager to enter an agreement with

1277
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:43,600
Cordian and Brown and Route to complete
services outlined in the work order at

1278
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:45,760
9723 Grand View not to exceed 175,000.
>> Second.

1279
01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:47,520
» All right. May we please pull the
council?

1280
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,119
» Council member Dal.
>> Yes.

1281
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,400
» Council member Solomonov.
>> Yes.

1282
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,239
» Council member Clark.
>> Yes.

1283
01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:53,360
» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
>> Yes.

1284
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,280
» Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.

1285
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,920
» Motion is passed.
>> Thank you very much. Thanks.

1286
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,320
» Thank you.
>> We spent some money tonight. Look at

1287
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:05,920
that. All right,
>> move on to item 16, hearing from

1288
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:11,119
citizens. Same conditions apply. Is
there anyone in the audience who wishes

1289
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:15,679
to speak?
All right. Anyone online, please raise

1290
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:18,679
your hand and signify that you wish to
speak?

1291
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:25,199
Okay,
we'll move on then. Uh, can we move on

1292
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:28,880
to item 17, review and acceptance of
minutes. Does anyone have any

1293
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:33,480
corrections of the minutes?
>> No. No. Can we please have a motion?

1294
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:41,040
» Like to make a motion to accept the
minutes, the council minutes from August

1295
01:37:37,119 --> 01:37:44,880
25th, 2026 and a work session from
September 12th, 2026 or 1st, sorry,

1296
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:49,760
September 1st.
>> All right. Motion made. Second.

1297
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:51,119
» Second. Please call the council.
>> Council member Juel.

1298
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:52,560
» Yes.
>> Council member Solommanov.

1299
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:53,840
» Yes.
>> Council member Clark.

1300
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,679
» Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

1301
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:56,719
» Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.

1302
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:00,560
» Yes.
>> The motion is passed.

1303
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:03,679
All right, we'll move on to item 18,
city attorney's report.

1304
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:07,280
» No report this evening, but we do have a
close session pursuant to subsection one

1305
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:11,040
of 1621.
>> All right, moving on to item 19 then for

1306
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,000
the closed session. Do I hear a motion
to go into close session

1307
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:17,960
» and two? I'm sorry. Subsection one and
two.

1308
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,960
» All right.

1309
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:24,719
Could somebody make a motion for
>> make a motion to move into close session

1310
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:27,840
pursuant to the revised statutes of the
state of Missouri to discuss legal,

1311
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:32,400
confidential, or privilege attorney
client matters pursuant to section

1312
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:36,560
610.0211,
real estate matters pursuant to section

1313
01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:39,199
610.0212.
>> Seconded.

1314
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,840
» You please pull the council.
>> My choice. Uh, council member Tal.

1315
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,440
» Yes.
>> Council member Solommanov.

1316
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:44,960
» Yes.
>> Council member Clark.

1317
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,960
» Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

1318
01:38:46,639 --> 01:38:51,040
» Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis. Yes,

1319
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:55,480
» pursuing to that we will close this
regular session and move into close

1320
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:55,480
session.

1321
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:07,040
» Uh we have exited close session and we
are reopening the meeting. No major

1322
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:09,760
decisions were made at this point. I'll
take a motion to adjurnn.

1323
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:12,320
» Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second.

1324
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:17,199
» Second. All right. We're adjourned at
10:06 p.m. Good night, everyone.