[0:05] All right, we will call the Olivet City
Council meeting to order on September
[0:10] 8th, 2026. If we please have roll call.
>> Mayor Lewis
[0:15] » here.
>> Chairman Prom Shashan Helman
[0:18] » here.
>> Council member Clark
[0:20] » here.
>> Council member Solommanov
[0:22] » here.
>> Council member Dragel
[0:23] » here.
>> All right. Wonderful. We'll move on to
[0:26] item two, communications. Are there any
communications to share? I do not have
[0:30] any written communications.
>> Okay. But we do have an introduction, I
[0:32] believe.
>> Uh, we do. So,
[0:37] this is Betty Pendleton. She is our new
court administrator. She's been with us
[0:42] a month,
a little over a month. So, she came to
[0:46] us from Normandy's court where she was
managing six courts. So, um, she's
[0:52] enjoying just the one.
Just the one. Um, so we would like to
[0:58] welcome her and her son Tristan.
>> Yes,
[1:05] » that's mostly for you, Tristan. Sorry
about
[1:09] excited to have you. Uh, welcome to all
of it and the the staff. And so, um, as
[1:15] council, we're happy to have you here
and hopefully it's, uh, quite enjoyable
[1:19] and, uh, less crazy than this. So,
wonderful.
[1:26] Wonderful. Well, thank you for coming
and thanks for the support. We
[1:29] appreciate you coming. So,
>> welcome aboard.
[1:31] » Welcome aboard. Thank you very much.
>> All righty. We will move on to item
[1:36] number three, city manager report,
please.
[1:40] » Good evening.
>> Good evening.
[1:59] All right,
couple of things. Um, first and
[2:03] foremost, a couple uh updates on Olive
Crossing.
[2:09] So, again, uh, lot three. As far as I
know, um, the tenants are doing well and
[2:16] and now that the first rush of everybody
going to visit, uh, the new tenants has
[2:22] has sort of subsided, it appears that a
lot of the parking has also gotten uh,
[2:28] gotten better. So, uh, we encourage
everybody to go visit all those tenants
[2:33] uh, in lot 3. They have just had one
vacant tenant space left uh, that I'm
[2:38] aware of. And then they are continuing
to do work uh on the fountain. So, as
[2:44] far as we know, they have gotten their
permits through St. Louis County and
[2:47] they're continuing to to do that
plumbing um through St. Louis County.
[2:53] Uh lot five, um the developer is going
to be dividing lot 5 in half and the
[3:01] northern half of that is going to be
Texas Roadhouse. Um the southern half is
[3:06] an as of yet unnamed uh tenant but
before the planning and development uh
[3:14] commission is a preliminary plat uh to
divide the two parcels as well as an
[3:21] update to the overall uh master plan for
the site uh because the master plan did
[3:27] not envision lot 5 being divided. So, we
just want to do some housekeeping and
[3:32] get it all uh cleaned up. And so, that
will be in front of the PCDC on
[3:39] September
17th, the next the next uh PCDC meeting
[3:45] um in September. Mr. Dr. Tjo is going to
kind of bring that forward as a
[3:50] educational item and um kind of talk
through the PCDC as far as what the next
[3:56] steps will be for that um up minor
update to the master plan as well as the
[4:02] preliminary plat.
And then lot six uh is the hotel and we
[4:08] don't have any um updates for that.
There are a few things that are going to
[4:15] be happening here in Alvette. So, this
coming Friday, September 11th, um the
[4:20] Great Rivers Greenway is hosting a
walking tour along the Centennial
[4:25] Greenway, um from 12 to 2:00 p.m. Uh it
is free. They do ask individuals to
[4:32] register just so they kind of have an
idea
[4:35] of who is coming. And so you can
certainly scan the QR code to register,
[4:39] but you'll be walking uh with an expert
look um talking about nature and the
[4:45] trail. Um and it's about 2 miles, so
bring your walking shoes. Uh it is
[4:51] relatively flat, so there are no big
hills or anything uh along the greenway.
[4:56] So we encourage everybody to join the
Centennial Green join the Great Rivers
[5:00] Greenway on the Centennial Greenway.
And then this is last call for all of
[5:06] Night Out. We would encourage any
neighborhood uh that is looking to host
[5:12] a block party to sign up with uh
Lieutenant Celzer and the police
[5:17] department for Olivet Night Out, which
is Tuesday, September 15th, so a week
[5:21] from today. Um groups of both the
elected officials, the fire department,
[5:27] and the police department will be making
the rounds uh of the various
[5:31] neighborhood groups. So, we encourage
everybody to sign up uh and come and
[5:35] join your neighbors.
[5:39] And then that following uh Friday,
September 18th, is uh trivia night at uh
[5:46] Five Oaks. And as I checked uh earlier
today, there are four tables left. So,
[5:50] grab your friends. Um get a table. It's
90s and 2000 sitcoms. So, um I think
[5:59] it'll be a fun time with fun questions.
[6:04] And then the Great Olive Cleanout is
September 30th uh from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m.
[6:09] It is at Five Oaks on Warson just like
it was last year. They'll have the
[6:14] dedicated route to come up the driveway
and then through and then exit. Um and
[6:20] so you can bring your electronics, so
almost anything with a cord. And then
[6:25] your um documents for shredding. This is
for residential shredding. materials
[6:31] only. So, not for businesses that have a
lot of files that need to be shredded,
[6:37] but if you are at home and you have
materials to be shredded, uh please
[6:40] bring them out.
[6:44] And then we do have the results of the
battle of the badges which was uh last
[6:48] week, last Thursday. So, we had 29 total
donors including not only members of the
[6:55] police and the fire department, but
members of staff uh as well as the mayor
[7:00] came out. There were um nine first-time
donors and then five power red donors.
[7:06] So, they got an actual
34 units of blood out of those 29
[7:12] donors. And the fire department won by
one vote. So, every vote counts
[7:20] and we appreciate everybody coming out
and donating that very valuable u blood.
[7:27] And then just a reminder, it is also
turkey trot season. Um you may register
[7:33] for the annual Thanksgiving morning run.
We are starting at 8:00 this morning.
[7:40] The last couple of years we've we've had
to be delayed a little bit, but um we
[7:45] got a lot of feedback that it's very
important that we start at 8:00 and so
[7:50] we we are going to be doing that. But we
encourage everybody to uh come out for
[7:55] Turkey Trot and all of the proceeds go
to the Harvey Cornblum Jewish food
[8:01] pantry. Uh last year we gave more than
$30,000 to the food pantry and so we are
[8:06] hoping that we can meet or exceed that
um donation again this year.
[8:14] And then I just encourage everybody to
sign up for the Alvette Weekly, which is
[8:18] our weekly e newswsletter with all kinds
of um news and events going on in the
[8:22] city of Alvette.
And then just a couple general updates.
[8:27] Uh first and foremost, we are very
excited that Carlos is getting a new
[8:30] person on his team. Uh we are getting a
new building inspector. They are in the
[8:35] pre-employment process now, so we expect
that they'll be coming on um shortly.
[8:41] And then just a reminder to the council
that we are having a work session at
[8:46] 6:30 on September 22nd. So right before
your next council meeting. This is the
[8:51] continuation of those departments in
depth. Uh and the next department up
[8:56] will be parks.
And with that I can answer any questions
[9:01] and then here are the upcoming meeting
dates.
[9:05] » Anyone on Thank you very much. Anyone on
the council have questions for city man?
[9:10] Okay, appreciate it. Thank you very
much. All right, we'll move on to item
[9:14] four, city council liaison reports,
where the council members will give
[9:17] updates on kind of activities or
meetings they've attended. Uh, council
[9:20] member Solomon,
>> no update for me this evening. All
[9:23] right, Mayor Prom,
>> I attended the PCDC meeting on September
[9:28] 3rd, and there were two text amendments
that passed. One allowing for coin
[9:34] operated laundry. Um, and the other
allowing for garage condos. Um, and both
[9:41] of those will be coming before the
council probably in October, I think. So
[9:47] um and then the PCDC also was able to
elect officers. Um so Sam Wallock is the
[9:55] uh chair and
I'm not going to remember Petri is the
[10:01] » vice vice chair.
>> Vice chair and
[10:04] » as fancy as mayor prom.
>> Yeah. Now I'm blanking on secretary
[10:08] » secretary. My apologies. Laura Ragdale.
Thank you. Thank you.
[10:14] Um, and then I also attended on
September 4th an ADAPT STL conference
[10:21] put on by St. Louis University. And this
was a dayong conference that brought in
[10:26] uh representatives from municipalities
as well as representatives from um Amron
[10:32] and local nonprofits and organizations
that work in the sustainability fields.
[10:38] And the idea was to work with Slooh's
research team as they create uh modeling
[10:46] tools for both extreme heat and flooding
events. And they wanted to make sure
[10:53] that as they were developing their
modeling tools, they were developing
[10:57] tools that actively respond to the needs
of municipalities,
[11:03] utilities, and nonprofits who work in
this space. So, it was really great um
[11:08] to just have these conversations
with other people who are considering
[11:13] these issues and to really be thinking
forward about the science and the
[11:19] research that we need, especially as a
municipality in order to make the
[11:23] decisions that we need to make for uh
future flooding and heat events.
[11:30] » Great.
All right, Migo. Um, I have nothing to
[11:35] report today.
>> I have nothing to report as well.
[11:39] » The only thing uh I have to report is on
last Friday the 4th, um, I got to attend
[11:44] the Ace Rick's Ace Hardware grand
opening, which was very exciting. Um,
[11:49] I'm a little sad I didn't get to use the
scissors because they used a chainsaw to
[11:52] cut a board as their opening, but uh,
that was quite unique. Uh, but honestly,
[11:56] the customer service was quite
incredible. Uh then they I think they
[12:00] had tons of people there and they were
just really excited to have people there
[12:04] and uh the community was already showing
up before 9:00 trying to get in um you
[12:08] know for the grand opening sales and
specials and so I think it's going to be
[12:12] a great addition and uh had a lot of
great vendors outside you know like Big
[12:16] Green Egg, Trigger um you know and tools
and things like that and fire department
[12:20] was well there represented as well. So
and a lot of staff so that was exciting
[12:24] good community welcome. though. All
right. Uh we'll move on to item number
[12:29] five. Uh items from council members,
things topics they want to bring up for
[12:32] future discussion, but not going into
depth on um the council today. Any
[12:37] topics from anyone they want to bring up
that aren't on the agenda or that we
[12:40] need to discuss for a future agenda.
[12:44] Okay. All right. We're going to move on
to item number six, hearing from
[12:47] citizens. This is the portion of the
agenda where anyone present in person or
[12:51] virtually may address the city council
regarding any topic, including those
[12:54] later in the agenda. Each speaker is
allowed up to three minutes to address
[12:58] the mayor and city council. Hearing from
citizens is designed for council to
[13:01] receive feedback rather than for a
direct dialogue, so we do not respond.
[13:05] Uh we will take speakers in person
first, followed by any online. If you're
[13:08] in person, you can complete a speaker
card and give it to the clerk. If you
[13:12] have already given your card to the
clerk, we'll take you in order in which
[13:14] you submitted your card. If you're
online and wish to speak, please use
[13:17] your raise your hand feature and you'll
be added as a speaker. Uh for those
[13:21] speakers when you come forward, please
make sure the mic is on that you state
[13:24] your name and address for the record
prior to delivering your remarks. Uh and
[13:29] then there will be a second session of
this later in the evening as well if you
[13:32] didn't get in this first one or you want
to speak twice. So I'll open it up. Is
[13:35] there anyone who wants to come forward
and speak?
[13:39] No. All right. Anyone online wish to
speak?
[13:46] Okay. So, I believe uh council member
clerk has uh they want to speak and
[13:51] address the council as well. So, we'll
have them.
[14:00] [laughter]
[14:03] » If you didn't turn the mic on, I'm going
to feel very sad.
[14:06] I was hoping that you asked me to.
>> Uh Sydney Clark, 1118 Basswood Lane.
[14:13] » Steve Iola, 1505 Missouri.
>> Um the reason why I'm up here today is
[14:19] um many of you may or may not know that
I am a kidney transplant survivor. Uh
[14:25] about two and a half years ago, I
underwent a kidney transplant and I'm
[14:30] one of the fortunate few to have a live
donor. Um,
[14:36] the day that I went under surgery to
have my kidney was my birthday.
[14:41] And I remember praying to God just
before surgery. I said, "Father, if you
[14:45] just let me live, I'll do my best to
serve my man, be a better man, and be a
[14:51] better person, and I'll do all that I
can to be the man that you want me to
[14:55] be." And I remember the nurse tapping me
on my shoulder saying, "Okay, I need you
[14:59] to move over to this other table." And I
asked, "How long is the surgery going to
[15:03] take?" and she said it's surgery's
already done.
[15:06] Um that in itself was my miracle. After
that um I realized how important how
[15:14] very important life is and how precious
it is. After surgery food tasted better,
[15:20] colors were brighter, sunsets were
better, hugs from my friends were
[15:26] better. Everything was better. And I
appreciated life so much better. And I
[15:32] decided I'm going to do that. And
service to your mankind, your your
[15:38] constituents and the people in your
world and your neighbors. Service to
[15:42] them is your payment for your space here
on Earth. And so I'm doing my part by
[15:49] joining with this gentleman here with
the National Kidney Foundation to help
[15:52] raise money. We're having a golf
tournament that's coming up in November.
[15:56] Would you please tell us about them? So,
it's actually our 45th year for the golf
[16:01] tournament. Um, it's one of our larger
fundraisers. Uh, we generally get about
[16:07] 120 golfers uh at the event. Uh, we're
doing some new things this year um with
[16:12] the golf tournament. We're honoring
individuals at different holes and doing
[16:15] some more peer-to-peer fundraising
opportunities because not everyone can
[16:19] do a force. Not everyone golfs. Uh, so
we're looking at new opportunities in
[16:23] that. And that's one of the things that
Sydney's kind of helping us with uh is
[16:27] spreading the word about some of these
additional types of opportunities and
[16:30] everything. Um I'd also add to what
Sydney was talking about too is um we
[16:35] are making a much larger push here
locally in the St. Louis area to do more
[16:39] community outreach type programs,
screening type of programs. Um that's
[16:43] been something that's been a little
little bit lacking here at the at the
[16:47] local level. So we're doing some
community outreach programs currently
[16:50] now in in North City. Um, but I know
we've been talking about the possibility
[16:54] of moving on this side, uh, and doing
some things in the county and
[16:58] everything, too. So, um, so stay tuned
on on those things. Uh, we've got a
[17:03] couple of screening programs going next
month, um, in the city. So, but, um,
[17:08] it's time to expand some of that stuff a
little bit westward, too. So,
[17:12] » So, tell them how we want to raise some
money on this golf tour.
[17:14] » Um, so we have some opportunities for,
um, on the golf tournaments. Um we've
[17:19] got what become more of a peer-to-peer
type program and stuff. So we're
[17:22] honoring um different individuals uh at
some at the different holes and
[17:27] everything. Sydney's one of our honores
uh this year and everything. So I do
[17:31] have some flyers and some information
that I can share with you uh with QR
[17:35] codes and information like that. So um
>> and we'll share that with you. And if
[17:40] you'd like to donate, you can just scan
the QR code and donate
[17:44] » in the mic. Sorry. So they can hear mic.
Yes. Uh we have a QR code where you can
[17:50] scan the QR code so that you can donate
to the cause and we will glad gladly
[17:56] accept any amount so that this can go to
a good cause and um you know thank you
[18:01] very much for listening and again um I'm
one of the fortunate few that was able
[18:08] to get the kidney. There are millions of
people every day that are suffering and
[18:12] won't see another year. So again, any
help that you can give would be greatly
[18:18] appreciated. And I am an ambassador now
for the National Kidney Foundation and I
[18:22] will be one until I'm no longer here. So
thank you very much for listening.
[18:27] » Thank you very much.
>> Thanks. Thanks.
[18:30] » Thank you for coming.
[18:35] » Anyone else wish to speak?
>> I wouldn't want to follow it either. So
[18:41] all right. Thank you. Appreciate it.
We're going to move on to item seven.
[18:46] Bill 3070. Can we please have the title
be read?
[18:50] » Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a
special permit use for AC Richardson LLC
[18:56] owners of the property grounds addressed
as 1215 Dealman Industrial Court to
[19:00] permit SSM Health Cardinal Glenn and
Pediatric Therapy to operate a 4566
[19:06] square foot medical clinic within the
tenant space addressed as 9375 Dealman
[19:10] Industrial Drive. Second reading. Good
evening, mayor, members of the city
[19:14] council. My name is Carlos Tre. I'm the
director of planning and community
[19:18] development with the city of Alvette. I
am here tonight requesting or the
[19:22] council would consider action on bill
3070. This grants a special permit of
[19:26] course to SSM Caro Glennon uh pediatric
therapy to operate a 4566
[19:32] foot medical clinic uh on the premises
at uh 1215 Deman Industrial Drive. More
[19:36] specifically, the tenant space address
is 9375 Dealman. We held a public
[19:41] hearing at our last council meeting. Uh
in there there was some comments and
[19:44] questions from the council regarding uh
some landscaping and some proposed
[19:48] exterior modifications uh in there. Uh
the petition and also a a general layout
[19:54] of what the interior would look like. Uh
the interior plans are located within
[19:58] your packet uh in there. But today we
did receive an email that had the uh the
[20:03] proposed landscaping uh again putting
putting uh three trees on the site
[20:07] grounds and then some shrubbery. Uh
those are not in the packet uh in there
[20:15] and city manager Yaki is going to have
those up for for me. Thank you, L.
[20:21] But they would utilize that green space
uh in between the two parking areas at
[20:25] the corner. Uh put up some trees and
then there would be some additional
[20:28] landscaping along the curb side of the
parking uh facing uh west. Uh that kind
[20:34] of creates a boundary along that area.
and then two additional uh ornamental
[20:39] trees uh within the perimeter of the
building. On the next slide,
[20:44] » can I clarify? Sorry to interrupt.
>> Absolutely. Go ahead, M.
[20:47] » Option planting. Does that mean it's
unclear we're going to do that or
[20:52] like it's not option null. I guess I'm
not sure what you mean by option
[20:54] planting.
>> I I think we're looking to put have
[20:57] those as part of the condition.
>> Yeah, I think that'd be great. And I
[20:59] guess I always will push for Missouri
native if possible. That's just a
[21:02] question I would ask why.
>> And we'll go through those. We were
[21:05] talking with set final like this point.
Okay, thank you.
[21:10] » The next slide will show the types of
light replacements that they would place
[21:14] uh on the building and those would be
facing uh downward and uh fully cut off.
[21:20] And then the next slide will kind of
show the purpose is kind of show the
[21:24] exterior lighting as they would under
the new uh light fixtures and then also
[21:28] kind of show it's the upper part of the
building, not the brick that was going
[21:32] to get painted, but the other part uh
the upper part. They have a darker tone
[21:35] as compared to what the original
building had. Uh that just kind of makes
[21:39] it less looking weathered. So
So that mayor, that concludes uh the
[21:46] followup regarding the the council's
requests. Uh and there'll be glad to
[21:49] answer any specific questions. I know
you guys just got to see these three
[21:53] diagrams when we do have representatives
here their questions.
[21:57] I yeah, my push would just be as many
plantings as possible as native as
[22:00] possible, but I know that's something
staff will work with, you know, the
[22:03] group on. So, um, other questions from
council.
[22:08] » No, I have no
>> No, I appreciate having the layout and
[22:12] seeing, you know, a clear sense of how
the space is going to be used, also the
[22:15] signage, and it just really helps to get
a a bigger picture of um what this space
[22:21] will look like and how it will be used.
and um and I appreciate the extra time
[22:26] and effort to to take those steps. Thank
you.
[22:28] » Sure.
Okay, then I'll ask uh if anyone wants
[22:32] to make a motion
>> soon as the motion comes up. happy too.
[22:38] There's a lot of
>> otherwise I'll say
[22:40] » yeah
[laughter]
[22:42] » I'll make a motion to approve bill 3070
uh an ordinance authorizing
[22:49] » a special permit use for AC Richardson
LLC
[22:54] um owners of the property grounds
addressed at 1215 Dealman Industrial
[22:59] Court to permit SSM Health Cardinal
Glenn and Pediatric Therapy to operate a
[23:05] 4566qt
medical clinic within the tenant space
[23:09] addressed as 9375 Dealman Industrial
Drive. The property grounds are zoned as
[23:15] LI Light Industrial District.
>> Second.
[23:18] » All right, we have a motion and a
second. Uh, can we please call the
[23:21] council?
>> Council member Dragel,
[23:23] » yes.
>> Council member Solomonov,
[23:25] » yes.
>> Council member Clark,
[23:26] » yes.
>> Chairman Prom, Sean Helman,
[23:28] » yes.
>> Mayor Lewis,
[23:30] » yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3070 becomes
[23:32] ordinance 2840.
>> Great. Glad to have you here and uh
[23:37] welcome. Thanks for coming in.
Appreciate it. So, you're welcome to
[23:41] stay for the entire thing if you want.
>> All right. Uh item number eight, bill
[23:48] 3071, please. Bill 3071, an ordinance
authorizing a special permit use for New
[23:54] Blueprint Partners LLC owners of the
property grounds addressed as 1220 North
[23:58] Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to
operate a 6,614
[24:03] ft enclosed recreational use within the
tenant space addressed as 1220 North
[24:07] Price Road, Sweet 4, second reading.
[24:12] » Good evening, Mayor. Again, my name is
Carlos Trulo. Uh we're not on the
[24:14] record, so I'll leave it at that. Uh
this is a request for uh the council to
[24:19] consider action on bill 3071 and that's
to authorize a special permit use uh to
[24:25] uh Aimfield hockey to operate a 6614
square foot enclosed uh indoor infield
[24:31] hockey facility at the property. Address
is 1220 North Price Road Suite 4. Uh
[24:36] this was before you uh under a uh public
hearing at our last meeting. Uh there
[24:42] were some general comments and questions
uh more specifically about trying to
[24:46] expedite the uh and assist the
petitioners uh with the permitting
[24:49] process on the and that we did meet with
them today uh in there. We had
[24:53] discussions. My goal is to get uh the uh
the first round of comments to the
[24:58] applicant by tomorrow and they're
confident that they can get a a quick
[25:02] turnover and then I'll make sure we work
to get that permit out for them. Uh
[25:06] depending on the council's
consideration, uh we did look at the
[25:09] parking areas and and all that.
Everything seemed to be appropriate.
[25:12] Kind of look use Google to look at the
peak times and kind of scope out how the
[25:16] layout the general layout was. I think
it works pretty well uh in there. I mean
[25:20] there there were there's spaces you just
you know they're not right in the front
[25:24] door but there are spaces that were
available throughout the day uh in
[25:28] there. So I I like what I saw. Um and
there and then we'll continue to work
[25:32] with the property owner regarding the
addressing some of the uh the fencing
[25:36] along the perimeter of the property.
>> Makes sense. Any questions from council
[25:41] on this item that we addressed last
time?
[25:45] » Sorry, mayor. Sorry to interrupt, but we
do have representatives that are here uh
[25:48] both for the building and with it. So,
>> um it was pretty thorough last time. I
[25:53] think it was good to get our questions
answered. So, um not to say I'm being
[25:56] rude not inviting you up, but we don't
have questions. [laughter] So, unless
[26:00] you really want to say okay. Yeah. So,
>> all right. No questions for anyone then.
[26:04] » I don't necessarily have a question. um
just a a kind of a concern that I'll be
[26:09] interested to just see if this ever
becomes something that could be changed
[26:14] or adjusted in the future. Um that would
be a larger issue for all tenants of
[26:20] this building. And that's the the odd
section that's in front of the building
[26:25] that has the
ovalshaped grass and then you've got
[26:31] these two entrances from the side. Um,
I can just foresee that potentially
[26:38] being confusing with additional car
traffic in there, the different ways to
[26:43] come in and out. And if it's possible in
the future as this building is more
[26:49] occupied and used, and um, if it does
become a problem, maybe it won't, um, I
[26:54] would love to see that traffic flow
improved somehow, just so that it's a
[27:00] little bit cleaner, just one entrance
and exit. um just for safety, for
[27:06] ease of use, but I I don't have any
issues with this particular use and the
[27:12] um the item that's before us.
>> I appreciate your concerns and we'll
[27:16] take a a look at that. We did look at
some of the history. I won't go o over
[27:20] like how we got to that point uh in
there, but they they're are valid. Uh
[27:24] but I think we'll work with them and
then over times something we can take a
[27:28] look at.
>> Yeah.
[27:30] » All right. No other questions. Do I hear
a motion? I'd
[27:33] » like to make a motion. Sorry. To approve
bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a
[27:39] special permit use for New Blueprint
Partners LLC owners of the property
[27:43] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price
Road to permit AIM Field Hockey to
[27:48] operate a 6,614
ft enclosed recreational use within the
[27:53] tenant space addressed as 1220 North
Price Road Suite 4.
[27:58] » Motion made. Do I hear a second?
>> Second. All right. Motion and second.
[28:02] Could we please pull the council?
>> Council member Duel.
[28:06] » Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.
[28:08] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[28:09] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[28:11] » Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.
[28:12] » Yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3071 becomes
[28:15] ordinance 2841.
>> Welcome as well. I'm very excited.
[28:19] » Think you're going to do quite well
because I constantly see the great
[28:22] pictures in the great, you know, in the
training sessions and things like that.
[28:25] So, good luck.
>> And [clears throat] we don't have
[28:28] anything like it and all of that. So
exciting to have a new business.
[28:31] » We got it now.
>> Yeah.
[28:34] » All right. We'll move on to bill 3072.
If we can have the title be read,
[28:37] please.
>> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section
[28:42] 405-460
condominiums, plats, and add additional
[28:47] requirements being part of the
subdivision code of the city of Alvette.
[28:50] Chapter 405, Subdivision Regulations of
Title 4 land use of the Alvette
[28:55] municipal code to allow for both
residential and non-residential
[28:58] condominium plat.
Second reading.
[29:02] » Good evening, mayor. Again, Carlos Tjo,
city of Alamett. Uh I'm requesting that
[29:07] the council will consider action on bill
3072. This would amend our subdivision
[29:11] regulations. Uh more specifically to
ensure that our condominium planning
[29:15] procedures are consistent with state
statute. Be glad to answer any specific
[29:19] questions. We had a public hearing on
this matter at our last meeting.
[29:22] » No, this was an interesting one to allow
certain businesses. So, makes sense. And
[29:27] we're also complying with what needs to
be done, it sounds like. So, any
[29:31] questions from council?
>> Any concerns?
[29:35] » No. Okay. Then, anyone want to make a
motion?
[29:39] » I'll make a motion to approve bill 3072,
an ordinance to amend sections 405.460,
[29:45] 460 condominiums, plats, and additional
requirements being part of the
[29:50] subdivision code of the city of Alvette.
Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of
[29:55] title forward land use uh of the Alvette
municipal code to allow both residential
[30:00] and non-residential condominium plats
and additional requirements.
[30:04] » Second. All right. Motion and second.
Can we please pull to council?
[30:08] » Council member Durgel,
>> yes.
[30:09] » Council member Solomonov,
>> yes.
[30:10] » Council member Clark,
>> yes.
[30:12] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman,
>> yes. Mayor Lewis.
[30:15] » Yes.
>> The motion is passed. Bill 3072 becomes
[30:17] ordinance 2842.
>> Excellent.
[30:20] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[30:23] » Moving right along. First big
presentation.
[30:27] Um item 10, Bill 3073. Can we please
have the title read? Bill 3073,
[30:33] an ordinance fixing the annual rate of
tax levy for 2026 on all property within
[30:38] the city of Alvette, providing for the
extension of said taxes on the books of
[30:41] the collector by the county clerk, and
providing for the collection thereof.
[30:44] First reading.
So today I have a treat for you. I'm
[30:48] going to go over the process for the
municipal tax rate setting. Um what we
[30:54] do for um a few months of the year while
we prepare the tax rate for you. Um, so
[31:01] I believe that it wasn't in your packet,
but this will be part of the minutes,
[31:04] correct? So they'll have an or an
opportunity to have a copy of this.
[31:10] » We can post it.
>> Oh, okay. So we'll post it. So um if you
[31:14] miss any of part of it, you're welcome
to uh ask questions at the end and then
[31:18] you'll get a copy of this um for your
reference in the future. So I'll start
[31:23] by going over our annual property and
real estate tax rate setting. um for the
[31:30] city. So the topics in this presentation
are going to be the purpose of the real
[31:35] and property tax rates, the property
appraisal process and the assessment
[31:40] cycle, the equation to convert appraisal
to assessed value and some examples. Um,
[31:46] the limits to tax growth, new
construction, an example real of a real
[31:51] estate tax bill with the all of it
percentage of the total tax, personal
[31:57] property um, and that tax process, an
example of a personal property tax bill
[32:03] and the all of it all of it percentage,
calculating and setting the rate, what
[32:08] happens after that, and then our
proposed 2026 rates with an estimated
[32:13] bill using the 26 rate for one sample.
of a residential property. Um, we have a
[32:19] conclusion and then time for question
and answers. Questions and answers. Um,
[32:23] just for your reference, I know you're
used to seeing a financial report and
[32:26] we'll have that for you at the next
meeting. So, won't miss that at all. So
[32:31] the purpose of real and property tax
rates um for mun Missouri municipalities
[32:37] and other tax rate setting entities is
to have a voter approved and reliable
[32:44] revenue source that helps fund essential
services. And in the city of these
[32:49] essential services include our police
and fire and parks planning services as
[32:54] well as administrative functions that
support the city in these important
[32:57] services. The city also has a separate
rate for its city pension and debt
[33:02] service and all three of these rates
have been voter approved.
[33:08] The real property appraisals are they
occur in odd years. Um Missouri law
[33:13] requires an assessment a reassessment
every odd year or every two years in odd
[33:18] number of years numbered years. Um, no
general reassessment occurs in even
[33:23] years unless there is a significant
change that would prompt a reassessment
[33:29] such as new construction, demolition,
major renovation. And then um once a
[33:35] reassessment occurs, property owners
receive a notice of that in May. Um
[33:40] there are inspections that are required
every six years um for every parcel that
[33:46] has to be um inspected every once every
six years. And then any property that
[33:53] increases significantly by more than 15%
is also u required to be inspected. And
[33:58] you can also have an owner request an
inspection. Commercial inspections
[34:03] require or occur as needed and those are
also often tied to significant changes.
[34:08] The valuation method is fair market
value and it's determined as of January
[34:12] 1. So your property is appraised as it
was on January 1st.
[34:18] » And it said odd years. Is that because
we're in our fiscal 2027 year now? Is
[34:22] that why it's for us now?
>> Well, we're actually setting the rate
[34:25] for 2026.
So we didn't have a reassessment this
[34:29] year. So I'm just mentioning that um we
are basically
[34:34] just mentioning the process that they
follow. So you'll be aware of that. And
[34:38] then in uh 2020, well 2026 is not a
reassessment year. In 2027, it will be a
[34:45] reassessment year. It's just the process
that they follow.
[34:48] » It's not it's not specific to all of it.
>> Yeah. But it said reassessed. And so
[34:53] this isn't a reassessment year. It's in
odd years they reassess.
[34:56] » Correct. Reassess the
>> We still do this every year. Obviously
[34:59] » you set property taxes every year.
>> Reassess,
[35:01] » right? But we but we reassess every odd
year unless there's something unusual
[35:06] like new construction that finishes and
is ready for occup occupancy or um or is
[35:13] occupied. Residential um property has to
be occupied in order for it to be
[35:18] considered eligible for assessment. So
unless something like that happens,
[35:23] major renovation, we won't they won't
have a reassessment in an even year. So
[35:28] I'm just giving you a part of the
process of what happens.
[35:32] So um the appraised value gets converted
to the assessed value using some ratios.
[35:38] For residential it's a 19%
um ratio. You multiply that times the
[35:45] appraised market value to get the
assessed value.
[35:49] And for commercial it's 32%.
And then for agriculture it's 12. But we
[35:55] don't have agricultural uh property in
the city of all. And the appraisers use
[36:00] comparable sales. They'll sometimes
provide that information either with a
[36:04] property record or in your form that you
receive in May. Um they'll use property
[36:09] data and market analysis to determine
the appraised value. An example of a
[36:14] home's appraised value and its um
assessment value would be in 2025 we had
[36:21] a 1,600 foot oliveette residence. It was
pre appraised near $325,000.
[36:28] If you multiply that by 19% you um come
up with $61,750
[36:34] and that equals the assessed value
and that is the amount that the tax will
[36:40] be assessed on.
[36:44] And an example of commercial property
assessment and the correlating
[36:48] percentage of 32%. I have three examples
here that I pulled off of the county
[36:53] website. This is with 2025 information.
and say you have one appraisal, it's
[36:58] close to 1,70,000.
If you multiply that by 32% to get an
[37:03] assessment value of 342,000. So it's
less than 1/3 of the appraised value.
[37:12] There are limits to what we can yield in
odd and in even years.
[37:19] um and that is limited by the John
Hancock amendment of 1980 and it limits
[37:26] any new tax revenue that can occur
without a vote. So this whole process um
[37:32] is limited either by CPI
um actual growth in property assessments
[37:38] or 5% and it's whichever is least so the
lesser of those. So, normally it is CPI.
[37:46] Um, so
>> CPI stand for
[37:49] » uh consumer price index
>> and I don't know which they use. Um, but
[37:54] I would assume it's probably e CPIU or
CPI uh W. I'd say probably U, but I can
[38:00] find that out. It is set by the Missouri
State Auditor's office and then it is um
[38:06] certified by the state tax commission.
Um and this year it is 2.7% that they're
[38:12] utilizing. Um what happens is that um
when the assessments go up or the
[38:19] appraisals and therefore the assessments
go up that's included that's considered
[38:23] growth. Um so if you have an assessment
city's assessment that goes up usually
[38:30] their rate will go down to keep the city
revenue neutral except for that CPI or
[38:35] 5% or growth whichever is least. So,
and I can show an example of that next
[38:42] at the next meeting.
New construction is handled a little bit
[38:46] differently. Um, we the first year only.
Um, new residential construction is
[38:54] considered eligible for assessment upon
occupancy. As I mentioned, for
[38:58] commercial property, the standard is
when it's available for occupancy. So,
[39:01] obviously, you can have property that is
eligible to be rented out still can be
[39:06] assessed by the assessor. they still owe
the tax based on that date. Um, new
[39:11] construction values are excluded in the
tax calculation the first year. And
[39:16] you've probably seen this on the tax um
rate presentation where they mention
[39:22] what amount is uh due to new
construction. Um the past two years it's
[39:28] been around $20,000. We get the new
construction free the first year and
[39:33] then subsequent years it's rolled into
the equation. So, um, so that's nice to
[39:40] allow a one-year bump in revenue for new
for new construction. Um, we also
[39:46] receive tiff increment values,
incremental values, and they are also
[39:50] handled differently. The increment
values are deducted from the property
[39:54] tax values. So, the city does not
receive any tax for those properties.
[39:59] They are um they are not factored um
into the equations.
[40:05] So let's show you an example of a
residential
[40:09] bill.
Um this is a sample olivet percentage of
[40:12] the total tax too. So you can see the
assessed valuation
[40:17] um in the middle says total valuation is
64380.
[40:21] If you were to divide that by 19% you'd
get the appraised value 338,
[40:28] almost 339.
So, this property had a tax bill of
[40:33] $4,412
in 2025.
[40:37] It was actually $4362 plus the sewer
lateral fee of $50. It's assessed on
[40:43] every property for that program. Um, you
can see on the right side the city of
[40:50] the amount that pertain to the city of
for our property tax rate that we set is
[40:56] 652.81.
[41:00] And you'll see on the next page that
that amount totals 15% of the total tax
[41:07] that was assessed on this property. You
can see the number of other um taxing
[41:14] entities and the school district up at
the top. So 15% is what was assessed for
[41:19] this property's residential property tax
by the city of Olivet.
[41:25] Next is personal property. that includes
cars, trucks, boats, motorcycles,
[41:30] recreational vehicles, and uh businesses
equipment, large equipment. Every year,
[41:36] the county assessor sends us a form and
we fill it out um after where what we
[41:41] owned as of January 1st that has to be
turned in um by April 1st of each year.
[41:47] And then the St. Lewis County Assessor's
Office uses the true value or a tradein
[41:52] value to determine the appraised value
of that equipment or those vehicles, the
[41:57] personal property. And they use an
assessed valuation um percentage of 33
[42:03] and a3, so onethird of the tradein value
for your vehicle um or vehicles.
[42:10] The next page shows what [clears throat]
a property tax would be for a 2000 a
[42:17] year 2000 passenger car worth $300. I
had a hard time finding one property
[42:22] that had just one car so I could give
the example. So so this vehicle's
[42:26] tradein value is $300.
Um and the assessed value is one third
[42:31] or $100.
And you can see that um the third item
[42:37] down is our city of et property tax rate
or tax fee
[42:42] property tax of $142.
It's equal to about 10.6% of the total
[42:48] bill. You'll also see a flat fee on
there for 550. That's because the city
[42:53] does charge a flat $5.50 fee for every
every vehicle that we have uh that
[42:59] owners have in the city.
So for property tax it uh all of it
[43:05] receives about 11% of the tax bill or
they we did in 2025.
[43:11] You'll also see the road and bridge all
of it and that's less than 1% and that's
[43:16] just the road and bridge tax that every
city receives and we use that for our
[43:22] capital projects and our roads. Um
calculating and setting the rate follows
[43:28] a specific process. I'm going to show
you the process we follow should follow
[43:32] every year and it follows follows a
specific timeline. Um, initially St.
[43:38] Louis County publicizes their
preliminary assessment roles. So that
[43:43] happens in early to mid July and that's
for residential, commercial and personal
[43:47] property
um, new construction and tiff
[43:51] incremental values. The city of Alvette
and other taxing entities download those
[43:56] roles and they enter the data and they
also download the Missouri state auditor
[44:01] calculator. We input the values into the
calculator and we upload the data to the
[44:05] Missouri state auditor's portal for
review. They um respond usually within 3
[44:11] days and we receive an email
notification as well that it is that our
[44:16] review is ready and we can download
their perform proforma or form um for
[44:22] our records. And this is them basically
um approving the rate or giving us the
[44:28] rate based on the inputs and that
matches our information from our use of
[44:33] the calculator. It's a it's a check um a
way to check the information. Next, um
[44:39] the city prepares their preliminary real
and property tax rates for information
[44:44] um of given to the city officials and
the public and that is from the
[44:49] preliminary assessment reports. Then, uh
St. Louis County residents and property
[44:55] owners can appeal their property
appraisals
[44:58] um to the board of equalization
um by the second Monday in July. When
[45:04] these hearings are held from July until
the last Saturday in August, um and once
[45:10] that is complete, the county has final
assessments to provide um to taxing
[45:16] entities and that's usually midepptember
and they post those to their website.
[45:21] the city of Olivet and other taxing
entities downloads download those final
[45:26] post board of equalization assessment
roles and again utilize the Missouri
[45:31] auditor's calculator set final numbers
upload it to the auditor portal we do
[45:36] the whole process again and obtain the
auditor's performer this year the um
[45:42] post VOE rates were miraculously set on
September 4th so I was able to quickly
[45:49] incorporate those
into our presentation into our packet.
[45:54] So the final rates and they have been um
reviewed by the state auditor. Um they
[46:00] actually were working yesterday and sent
it yesterday. But so that is done. Uh
[46:06] the next step will be for us to uh
publish a public notice and then hold a
[46:12] a public hearing to review and then ask
the council to approve the rates.
[46:20] So after the rates are set, um we and
approved by the council, we certify the
[46:28] rates with our um our clerk um filling
out paperwork and sending a we send a
[46:35] copy of the ordinance to this St. Louis
County um
[46:40] uh revenue office. St. Louis County
prepares the tax bills. Those are
[46:44] delivered to homeowners in November
and they charge us 1.5%
[46:50] for the preparation and delivery of
those bills and then that fee is
[46:56] deducted from from our payments.
Um, usually there's a one month lag um
[47:03] in the receipts that we receive from so
if they receive payments in November,
[47:07] we'll receive them usually in December.
Sometimes there are multiple payments
[47:11] during busy busy months. Um but the
majority of the payments are received by
[47:16] February.
So December through February.
[47:22] Um the 2026 real and property tax rates
um as I mentioned were posted on
[47:29] September 4th. Told you about the
process that we went through. You can
[47:34] see the rates are here for you and they
were um should be also in the ordinance
[47:39] that we uh prepared for you. And then
you can see the um St. Louis County
[47:45] assessment
how they present that on their website
[47:49] what we download from that um from that
website.
[47:58] » So
>> how does this compare to uh the previous
[48:01] year?
>> Right. I did that calculation and I have
[48:05] it ready for you. So, it's about um a
little more than 2.7% for the
[48:12] residential and u personal property tax
and then there's also an increase for
[48:17] debt. The um the total increase or total
change is about 4%. So, I can show you
[48:24] that um at the next meeting
>> 4%. But that so that's more than CPI but
[48:30] that is based on when we um provide the
information to do the calculation for
[48:36] our debt service that doesn't have the
John Hackencock limit. It's basically we
[48:40] indicate what we need for a debt service
um what we need for reserve and what our
[48:45] payments are coming up and it's based on
the um um assessments and u the
[48:54] correlating amount is what we need to
pay the debt service. So, that's a
[48:57] little bit of an outlier. Um, but the
the tax, the ceiling limited u property
[49:04] tax and real estate tax is a little bit
more than 2.7% and that would make sense
[49:10] because we're able to have that new
construction bump of one year, but I'll
[49:14] show all of that in great detail for you
on the 22nd. And I can go ahead. Well,
[49:19] to clarify, when you say 4% and I'm
forgetting the term,
[49:23] annoying me all night, but when we say
if the tax rate was 6% last time, you're
[49:27] going to 4% you're saying it's like 6.24
now, or are you saying it's you're not
[49:30] saying it's 10 is what? Like,
>> oh no.
[49:33] » Yeah, that's what I thought. It only 4%
increase from what it was last time.
[49:36] » Correct.
>> Okay. What's the term when you just
[49:38] increase the total?
>> Incremental.
[49:41] » Incremental.
>> No, no,
[49:42] » that's okay. It'll come [snorts]
in sleep. So,
[49:47] » yeah. mainly, you know, if constituents
ask us how come the rate is higher than
[49:50] the CPI, we should have a good answer at
the council.
[49:53] » New construction, it'll be new
construction. If you're taking a look at
[49:56] real and property tax, it's the new
construction. Debt service is a little
[50:01] bit different the way that it is
calculated. And again, that's just based
[50:05] on what we need for debt service, what
we project our fund balance is going to
[50:09] be, and you know, having one, you know,
a reasonable reserve. So, I can show you
[50:15] those calculations as well.
basis. Where else?
[50:20] » Oh, basis. Yeah.
>> So, here's an example um of a $325,000
[50:26] home with a 2026 tax rate. Uh it would
be $665.
[50:35] So in conclusion, this tax rate setting
process is guided by the Missouri state
[50:40] statute, the Missouri state auditor's
office. There are procedures and
[50:44] calculators as well as the Hancock
amendment which limits the amount of tax
[50:49] increase again to actual growth CPI or
5% whichever is least. And state statute
[50:55] requires public notification and
engagement through public notice. then a
[50:59] public hearing process which will occur
again at your next meeting on September
[51:03] 22nd and then the tax rates are approved
by the highest authority in our city
[51:08] which is our city council
um all of you of course and then
[51:14] certified and sent to the county for tax
bill preparation
[51:17] and this
um tax process and correlating revenue
[51:23] provides not only for necessary
essential services but also for our debt
[51:28] service and our pension. So those are
the the three components and you can see
[51:34] the three components on the next page
which is just Q&A and if you'd like you
[51:40] know just to have those for your
reference.
[51:45] Oh I'm sorry. Do you have any questions
or comments other than you've already
[51:50] brought up or
>> Yep. Just for the presentation on the
[51:53] 22nd. It' be good to see side by side
what it was in 25 versus 26. Yeah, that
[52:00] » I've got that ready for you.
>> That' be great for personal and home and
[52:03] everything because that's
>> I agree. Not only an example and numbers
[52:08] because it's just helpful when people
ask why it went up or why it goes down
[52:11] next year or
>> maybe up for new construction this year.
[52:14] Next year it might adjust back. Who
knows?
[52:17] » Absolutely.
>> Okay.
[52:18] » Well, it's always going to be always
usually going to be up a little bit
[52:22] hopefully with new construction with the
activity that's happening in the city.
[52:27] So, we'll have to see
>> other questions from council.
[52:32] » All right, we'll have a second reading
on September 22nd. Thank you very much.
[52:35] You bet.
>> Appreciate it.
[52:38] » All right, we will move on to item 11.
Bill 3074.
[52:45] » Bill 3074, an ordinance authorizing the
city of Alvette to enter into and
[52:50] execute a contract with St. Louis
County, Missouri for vector control
[52:53] services and authorizing and directing
the city manager of the city of Alvette
[52:56] to enter into on behalf of said city a
contract with St. Louis County, Missouri
[53:00] for vector control services. First
reading
[53:08] » and Miss Jaffy, you're presenting this
one, right?
[53:17] » All right. Um, good evening. So
[53:22] last year, last March, um the city
council approved a contract with St.
[53:28] Louis County for vector control, which
essentially is um spraying for
[53:34] mosquitoes as well as handling any
rodent abatement on a as needed basis.
[53:42] Um and it came to our attention uh a
week ago that uh St. St. Louis County
[53:49] didn't have a copy of that contract and
they had not been providing the city
[53:54] services this past spring and summer.
And so after talking with St. Louis
[53:59] County um they would not accept a copy
of last year's ordinance and so they
[54:05] would like a new ordinance um in order
to provide services um moving forward.
[54:13] The contract you can see the contract
fees right there. Um the contract is
[54:18] typically for five years and it does um
larvae sighting, adult sighting and
[54:25] rodent abatement. Um I believe there is
additional information
[54:31] for St. Louis County.
[54:35] Uh they provided some detailed
information about what that means. So
[54:40] St. Louis County does surveillance of
all of St. Louis County uh tracking and
[54:46] kind of looking to see where mosquitoes
are so that they can try and do um
[54:50] either targeted larvae sighting, so
killing the larvae or targeted uh
[54:56] spraying. And then of course the rodent
abatement um is for the Norway rat and
[55:02] that is on a um per as needed basis. So
we would call them to say we are having
[55:10] rodent issues please come out and uh
address that for us. So this is in front
[55:15] of the count council for first reading
only.
[55:19] » I see the rates by hour. Do we have an
estimated total cost?
[55:23] » Um it's about $2500
>> a year
[55:27] » for a year.
>> Okay. Um
[55:32] all right. Uh questions.
>> A couple questions. Um, do we know where
[55:36] our sites are specifically that they
monitor?
[55:40] » Not specifically. They are throughout
all of St. Louis County and I don't know
[55:45] if there are sites specific in all of
it, but I can certainly ask them.
[55:50] Does Bruce know
>> in all of it?
[55:56] » Would you like to come to the mic?
>> Yes, you would.
[56:03] That's called
>> Can we go through each one?
[56:05] [clears throat]
>> Well, I'm told
[56:08] » Bruce McGregor public works mosquito
expert. Not really, but anyway. Um,
[56:12] according to historical records, of
course, some of this is reported by
[56:16] residents to the county, so there's an
eb and flow of locations, but there are
[56:20] 66 different spots. Some of those are
combined uh well, we have very few
[56:25] combined storm and sanitary sewers. we
have certain ditches around like there's
[56:30] some along I170 in areas where we have
some ponding uh in there but I have a
[56:35] list um we can request it at the end of
the season of where they've been out and
[56:40] where they're monitoring where they uh
place uh the you know the larvide pods
[56:45] and then with the mosquito spraying
residents can opt out on streets as
[56:49] well. That's an important note. So, if
there's a honeybee hive, they they do
[56:54] try to go late at night when the hives
are a little bit more dormant, but there
[56:58] there is an option to opt out of a uh a
larvaiding or a spraying.
[57:02] » Is it an individual house that's
optioned out or a street?
[57:05] » A street.
>> How does that work if I don't want it or
[57:08] my neighbor?
>> You you would call the county say we
[57:10] want to be off the larvaiding list. You
might not be on there. I don't have that
[57:13] one for the spraying. I just have the
one here right now with the uh where
[57:17] they place the pellets and they check
first if the stagnant water has any um
[57:22] like evidence that where they're going
to get some uh some growth.
[57:27] [clears throat]
[57:31] » Well, you're saying I think
>> yeah explain it a little further. I
[57:35] don't get it.
>> Okay. So, there's two different ways
[57:38] that they're treating here. Okay. Number
one, they're trying to prevent water
[57:42] from get becoming stagnant and allowing
the mosquitoes to breed, right? So that
[57:46] there are areas that they go around and
they check that spots that have
[57:50] historically held water that is
stagnant. Uh and then they would look at
[57:54] that water and to say, "Okay, this is a
good spot for us to put one of the
[57:58] treatment pellets in there that would
would kill any of the the larae that are
[58:02] growing." Okay. And then there's the
spray, right, that goes out in the
[58:06] middle of the truck. They do that very
late at night or early in the morning.
[58:10] They do that because honeybees at that
time are aren't active. They're in the
[58:14] nest. So that's to mitigate the risk on
our good pollinators and our good
[58:18] insects uh around. And that fogging is
to get the mosquitoes that are out in
[58:23] the air that are adults.
Okay. So those are the two we to date in
[58:28] and mine we have never used the um uh
rodent control but if we had a area that
[58:34] was a trashinfested
uh a hoarding situation we could ask
[58:39] them to come out and help with baiting
and trapping but we've never done that
[58:42] in the years that I've been here.
>> Does that help?
[58:45] » Yes.
>> So I'm assuming for the services they
[58:48] didn't do over the spring and summer
we're not paying for that right.
[58:51] » Well they they would they bill for
services as performed.
[58:55] Okay. So it there's each year it's a
little bit different, right? We have a
[58:59] lot of rain in the spring and that can
be right temperatures, right, for the
[59:04] mosquitoes to breed or we could have
like periods of very dry like right now
[59:08] where we're going to have very few
ponding areas that the mosquitoes would
[59:12] be growing,
>> right? They go through the whole season
[59:14] and then they actually bill us in
January for the previous year
[59:18] » and
>> and we can request the information.
[59:20] They're pretty good about getting us the
the information about when they've been
[59:24] out and so on.
>> Okay. And the five-year contract, I'm
[59:27] assuming we're locking in the rates. Is
that part of the contract?
[59:31] » I don't know if they have a um I'd have
to look in the detail on it to see if
[59:36] there's a uh like an adjustment, an
annual adjustment,
[59:40] » right?
>> Uh clause. I don't I don't recall that
[59:44] there is, but
>> yeah, I don't recall that these are up
[59:49] slightly from last year. So, we may lock
them in or it may I mean, it's only a
[59:54] couple dollars that it's gone up. So,
>> Bruce, I'm a a little confused. In the
[1:00:00] the document here, it says that
throughout St. Louis County, there's 234
[1:00:04] sites that are pre-selected trap sites.
Uh we don't have 66 of those.
[1:00:12] pre-selected trap site in all of it, I'm
assuming.
[1:00:16] » Well, so I am looking here for uh
through a list that goes through um
[1:00:23] various locations that they have either
checked or gone through like creek
[1:00:27] behind BP AMO gas station, uh Standing
Water Railroad tracks, um creek along
[1:00:34] 1360 North Price. that I mean they check
it. It I don't I'd have to go into more
[1:00:40] detail to see if they've uh they treated
the area or not, but it seems like
[1:00:44] they're they're really quite active
going out um and looking at areas like
[1:00:49] where the river to pair is the different
branches through the community. Some of
[1:00:53] these might be resident driven.
>> So these are what you're seeing on the
[1:00:57] screen is trap sites. I think what you
may be talking about is checks that
[1:01:01] they're doing. This is a report from
from the county that they've gone out
[1:01:04] and they've looked at in different
spots.
[1:01:07] » Is there anything we can do to
minimize the amount of stagnant water?
[1:01:12] » The best I mean on at the resident type
level, right? It is local things like
[1:01:17] making sure you don't have standing
water on your own property, right? So
[1:01:21] that could be gutters that don't drain,
a old tire in the backyard, a flower pot
[1:01:26] that is full of leaves on the bottom is
sitting out somewhere. Those are the
[1:01:30] best things owner can do is actively
look at your property and make sure you
[1:01:34] don't have stagnant water uh you know
that's growing there. It's a little bit
[1:01:38] harder for the general homeowner to go
out and clear like a ditch that might be
[1:01:43] in the rightway behind their house or in
between properties to make sure the flow
[1:01:48] is flow is going. But you know certainly
you know to look for those items but
[1:01:52] that that's where the mosquitoes are
grown. Is that something the city could
[1:01:55] do to help with some of that drainage?
You know, is that
[1:01:59] » that's the reach for us to to have the
capacity to go out and be really looking
[1:02:03] at those things. Yeah.
>> I will say one thing though that u parks
[1:02:07] did um is uh well actually I don't know
if it was parks or if it was all of it
[1:02:12] in bloom um but there was some citizen
education around this mosquito bucket
[1:02:17] challenge.
>> Yeah. where you actually put a bucket
[1:02:20] out to attract mosquitoes, but it has
larvide in it so that the mosquito
[1:02:24] » sterilize the swarm.
>> Yeah, they Well, not that. No, that is
[1:02:28] some very cool science that is
happening, but okay, we're not there
[1:02:31] yet.
>> Um, but no, this is just you set a
[1:02:35] bucket full of water to bring the
>> bring the mosquitoes in, they lay eggs,
[1:02:40] and the eggs die.
>> Okay. Um I
[1:02:45] having a little bit of background in the
science of this um I don't have any
[1:02:49] problem with larvaiding. I do have a
problem with adulticiditing with the
[1:02:53] spray that is broadcast into the air and
only works if it happens to hit a
[1:03:01] mosquito that's in its adult phase at
that moment when it is being sprayed. It
[1:03:06] is also very effective at killing any
other winged insect
[1:03:11] um that it might be flying at that time.
It's indiscriminate.
[1:03:16] Um as opposed to the larvaide which
targets specifically the larvae. Um so I
[1:03:25] am not and the science also does not
demonstrate that adulting is effective
[1:03:31] at controlling mosquito populations
where larva sighting is shown to be um
[1:03:37] effective. So I think I would like to
know a little bit more information about
[1:03:44] um
the counties. It sounds like it's very
[1:03:49] targeted when they do the adult
deciding.
[1:03:52] » Absolutely.
>> So, I'd like to know a little bit more
[1:03:55] about that process, what the threshold
trigger levels are and then what
[1:04:01] additional um precautions
>> are taken and in place to minimize any
[1:04:07] of those um kind of fallon effects
>> that that happen from spraying. Um
[1:04:16] » I know they do look at the climactic
conditions right before they go out you
[1:04:19] know making sure that it is the optimal
time and we can get more information
[1:04:23] from the department about you know
exactly the you know the the procedure
[1:04:27] that they use to decide okay this is a
good night to send the crew out and and
[1:04:31] this is why and or and vice versa you
know this is when we don't send the
[1:04:35] trucks out uh for these conditions
because we don't want this to you know
[1:04:39] to move more or disperse too much
>> with the Yeah. And we could I it's an
[1:04:44] interesting question of could we target
to say we like laride and we want to
[1:04:48] continue that but we don't
>> I think that's a greater a greater you
[1:04:52] know question for discussion and in more
detail and get more information
[1:04:55] » I think it'd be helpful to understand if
that's an option in the contract I
[1:04:57] assume it would be it
>> it's come this has come up before over
[1:05:00] the years um you know certainly
everybody you know the standing water
[1:05:04] that's that's a really easy lowhanging
fruit to approach the um there's always
[1:05:09] you know two sides on the adulticiding
and the spray Okay. Um, you know, some
[1:05:14] people really really, you know, believe
in it. And then, you know, we really
[1:05:17] want to watch that collateral damage,
uh, you know, with our other good
[1:05:22] insects, we'll say.
>> Yeah.
[1:05:24] » And just to be clear, too, this is not
the same as like there there's term
[1:05:30] fogging out there where a truck would
just come by and just drive through the
[1:05:35] whole city just spraying.
>> That's what it is. It's an atomizer. I
[1:05:40] don't the science the technology behind
it. I don't have the exact details of
[1:05:44] what it is. The city actually used to
have a machine for fogger that we used.
[1:05:49] » But my my question is if a delta
sighting were to happen,
[1:05:54] » it it would be in the one location where
it is um
[1:06:02] » or or is it
>> it's discriminate. It is not like just
[1:06:05] random driving around everywhere just
just to do it.
[1:06:10] And we have the um I have a route and a
location from that. I have to out
[1:06:14] » reach out to you ahead of time to say,
"Hey, we're going to do these five areas
[1:06:18] or no?"
>> No.
[1:06:20] » Okay. So, they decide what what area
they want to do and they target those
[1:06:22] and they do specific ones where maybe
residents called or maybe they've
[1:06:26] noticed a significant
>> Right. This his based on historical
[1:06:30] data, this is one where we've noticed
it's at the low of a of an area and
[1:06:34] we've noticed exceptional. Is it
possible to share with us the areas for
[1:06:38] each
>> I can we can get those
[1:06:40] » that'd be helpful you know at least the
historical one and and um uh I can find
[1:06:45] that I may even have it in in the files
here I just happen to have this one with
[1:06:49] the larva sighting here all the
different locations
[1:06:51] » how often were they treated I don't even
know if they go more than once to an
[1:06:54] area or not you know a resident calls
multiple times are you going to go
[1:06:57] multiple times I don't know
>> okay that'd be helpful thank you
[1:07:00] » yeah sure
>> so for the record how does someone
[1:07:03] report an area that is confessed.
>> He called the same the county the county
[1:07:07] office.
>> Okay. And if you want to opt out of the
[1:07:10] service, what do you do?
>> The same thing you report in.
[1:07:13] » Same. Okay.
>> Yeah.
[1:07:15] » Okay.
>> But I guess it'd be interesting unless
[1:07:17] they found that they think your area
needs adult sighting or love sighting,
[1:07:22] you may not ever be serviced anyway.
>> It's possible. Yeah.
[1:07:25] » Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, a follow-up item is to
[1:07:30] get clarity on which sites, how many,
how often, um, how they choose, those
[1:07:34] kind of things.
>> Okay.
[1:07:36] » And I do have some further information
that I pulled from the Xeries Society,
[1:07:42] which is on invertebrate conservation,
um, an article from St. Louis Public
[1:07:47] Radio. I have a few different articles
here. Um, if council members are
[1:07:50] interested in learning more about
spraying for mosquitoes,
[1:07:58] All right. Any other follow-up
questions?
[1:08:01] Okay. Well, we'll have a second reading.
Um, and obviously that uh other
[1:08:05] information will be helpful. Thank you
very much for stepping up unannounced
[1:08:08] unexpectedly.
>> Okay. Uh, can we please move on to item
[1:08:14] number 12, consideration of 2026 2027
Missouri qualified vendor list pickup
[1:08:19] purchase for the public works
department.
[1:08:22] » All right. Good evening again, Bruce
McGregor, public works. Um, I am here to
[1:08:27] you to ask for a new truck to replace uh
another oldest vehicle in the fleet uh
[1:08:34] truck that at public works. This is uh
has been predominantly the mechanics
[1:08:40] pickup. And uh over the past two years
doing snow removal operations
[1:08:46] uh with Five Oaks in full service uh
we've determined the need for a smaller
[1:08:51] vehicle, a little bit more more nimble.
And with this truck uh replacement
[1:08:56] coming up, we want to outfit this one
with a plow to supplement the uh the
[1:09:02] rest of the equipment to help fill in
the gaps. Uh really we had always uh
[1:09:08] plowed over at the old Grand View site
where the community center was. So now
[1:09:12] we have that one and we have Five Oaks
and parks departments pulled around as
[1:09:17] well doing the well the other uh city
parks. So, uh, we want to have a, uh, an
[1:09:22] extra vehicle to to help fill in and
supplement staff. So, uh, this is for a
[1:09:28] 2027 F250.
[1:09:33] » All right.
>> Looking at the the price that we have
[1:09:36] here, um, it looks like the 48,000 and
in the capital improvement there was
[1:09:40] 68,000. Is this a rare example where
it's underbudgeted?
[1:09:44] » No, we don't have the plow equipment. So
that is for the uh so so whenever we
[1:09:49] build out a truck, there's the truck
that you get from the dealer and then it
[1:09:53] goes to an equipment builder. So they
install like the if it doesn't come with
[1:09:57] a backup alarm, a backup uh beacon, they
do the emergency lights. In this case,
[1:10:02] we'll have a uh combo electric hydraulic
snowplow to go on there. Uh so that's
[1:10:07] what the difference is uh in there for
the rest of the equipment built.
[1:10:11] » Is it a diesel? No, this is just a gas
uh a gas engine. We diesel is a whole
[1:10:17] another discussion.
>> Clouds also serve as salt trucks. Do
[1:10:22] they get
>> We didn't plan this one to be a salt
[1:10:26] truck as well, but yes, all of the other
trucks have what we call VBOX spreaders.
[1:10:30] And they have saddle tanks to hold
liquid calcium chloride that we use to
[1:10:34] supplement the salt when the weather is
below 18°.
[1:10:38] » Is there a reason why this one wouldn't
have the spreader on the back? We don't
[1:10:42] know if we have a need for that right
now. Um really we have the more of a
[1:10:46] time that we need to get the lots
cleared uh and then we can send the
[1:10:50] other trucks out with the bigger
spreaders uh on there, but certainly
[1:10:53] it's something we could add in the
future, but we didn't plan for it this
[1:10:56] go around.
>> But it's possible to add
[1:10:58] » Absolutely. It's a regular pickup with
the weight class. Uh we could put a
[1:11:01] small B or small spreader in the back.
Uh but we feel like we have it's getting
[1:11:06] the snow off. We have capacity with the
other trucks to do uh to do salting.
[1:11:14] » All right. Any other questions from
anyone?
[1:11:17] » I'll take a motion then, please.
>> I'd like to make a motion to authorize
[1:11:20] the city manager to issue a purchase
order to Joe Mackin Ford in an amount
[1:11:24] not to exceed $48,56
for the purchase of one 2027 Ford F250
[1:11:30] four-wheel drive as quoted.
>> Second.
[1:11:33] » All right. Motion and second. Can we
please pull the council? Council member
[1:11:37] Dragel,
>> yes.
[1:11:38] » Council member Solomonov,
>> yes.
[1:11:39] » Council member Clark,
>> yes.
[1:11:41] » Chairman Pro Bashan Elman,
>> yes.
[1:11:42] » Mayor Lewis,
>> yes.
[1:11:44] » Motion has passed.
>> Thank you.
[1:11:46] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:11:48] » All right, we'll move on to item 13.
Request for approval to repair the air
[1:11:51] conditioning system on the primary fire
truck.
[1:11:58] » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, city council,
Miss Yakley. My name is Steve Carman,
[1:12:03] fire chief, city of Alvette Fire
Department. During a recent maintenance
[1:12:08] check, technicians identified severe
degragation within the pumper's AC
[1:12:13] system. Uh the crew came to us and was
complaining that the AC was blowing out
[1:12:19] warm air. So, we had them take it down
to Sentinel and Sentinel run a test on
[1:12:24] it and figured out that the compressor
was bad. And as they took it apart, they
[1:12:29] found metal shavings all throughout the
hose lines in the truck.
[1:12:35] So once metallic debris enters into the
hose line, it contaminates the entire
[1:12:40] circuit, the condenser, evaporator line,
compressor. So flushing the system is
[1:12:46] insufficient and doesn't guarantee
reliability
[1:12:50] as residual I'm sorry metal will cause
repeated
[1:12:56] immediate compressor failure. So the
fire department is requesting a motion
[1:13:02] to authorize the repair of the fire
trucks air conditioning system at a cost
[1:13:08] not to exceed $25,100.
If you have any questions, I can take
[1:13:13] questions at this time.
That was a rough couple weeks.
[1:13:16] » It has been. Yes. Yes. Never happens at
a good time.
[1:13:21] » No. No. With something that expensive,
does it come with a warranty at least of
[1:13:26] $25,000?
>> Well, I have to check that. I didn't ask
[1:13:30] that question. The sticker shock was
right.
[1:13:34] » Do they know where the metal shavings
are coming from?
[1:13:36] » It's the compressor. The compressor
basically was falling apart inside and
[1:13:42] sent the metal shavings throughout the
hose lines.
[1:13:46] » You're tough ass.
>> They can handle it.
[1:13:48] » Well, they're wearing light clothing in
there, so you know, very cooling
[1:13:51] clothing.
>> It's going to get cold in a few weeks
[1:13:53] anyway. Let them hang on for a while.
[laughter]
[1:13:56] » All right. Well, I'll have you vote on
that.
[1:14:00] » You have any questions?
>> No, I don't have
[1:14:02] » No. All right. Well, all right. Do we
hear a motion then? I'll make a motion
[1:14:06] to authorize the repair of the
firetruck's air conditioning system at a
[1:14:10] cost not to exceed $25,100.
>> I second.
[1:14:13] » Yeah. You please pull the council.
>> Council member Dragal.
[1:14:17] » Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.
[1:14:19] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[1:14:20] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Helman.
[1:14:22] » Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.
[1:14:23] » Yes.
>> The motion is passed.
[1:14:25] » Thank you.
>> How soon will it be done? Um, originally
[1:14:29] he told me two to four weeks, but then
um, just in time for the pool. But, um,
[1:14:35] I had a conversation with him and he
said it would take probably a week.
[1:14:39] » Okay.
>> So,
[1:14:41] » all right. Enjoy the coolness.
>> Thank you.
[1:14:43] » All right. We'll move on to item 14,
consideration of 2026 2027 Missouri
[1:14:48] qualified vendor list pickup purchase.
Pickup purchase for the parks division.
[1:14:53] Everyone gets a truck.
>> If I can, you would get a truck.
[1:14:56] Exactly. That's right.
>> Good evening, uh, mayor and city council
[1:14:59] members. I'm Patrick McGee, the
assistant, uh, park and recck director.
[1:15:03] Billy Beverly is out, uh, on vacation.
Uh, but we are here to ask, um, to
[1:15:09] replace one of our trucks. This is kind
of our doit all truck. It goes around
[1:15:14] and picks up all the trash from all the
dog pots, all the parks, um, hauls waste
[1:15:18] wheelers to and from special events.
Kind of a do-it-all truck for um, for
[1:15:23] our parks department. So, it is an
important uh we replacing the oldest
[1:15:28] truck in our parks fleet and we asked
for your consideration um and helping us
[1:15:34] replace us with something. We also did
include um in the bid. You'll notice
[1:15:38] that u a headache rack, which I didn't
know exactly what that was, but to keep
[1:15:42] things from breaking the back window um
if it's in the back of the truck from
[1:15:46] sliding forward and hitting a window
>> rack is what?
[1:15:48] » Yeah, it's called a headache rack. I
thought it was a great name for it,
[1:15:50] actually. Yeah.
>> And uh the other um option was to do a
[1:15:55] spray-in bed liner. We had noticed that,
you know, when we put a lot of that
[1:15:59] trash in the tra in the bed of the truck
that that stuff was getting under the
[1:16:03] plastic bed liner and kind of
deteriorating the bed a lot quicker. So
[1:16:07] the spray and bed liner will kind of
protect the bed a lot longer. So, and
[1:16:12] it's for relatively, you know, under
$1,000 to do that, too. So, we are
[1:16:17] trying to keep our stuff uh looking
nicer and this is um definitely one of
[1:16:23] the trucks that we could use replaced
for sure.
[1:16:25] » Okay.
All right. Um questions from the
[1:16:29] council.
>> Just the frugal part of me has to ask.
[1:16:33] We have public works with their trucks.
You guys have your own trucks. Is there
[1:16:38] ever an opportunity to share some of the
vehicles or are they totally I guess
[1:16:41] they're parked in different places?
Bruce likes big trucks and we have to
[1:16:46] get in small spaces often. You know, you
see some of the trails throughout our
[1:16:49] parks. We have to have something that's
maybe a little more nimble. Uh smaller
[1:16:53] like an F-150 paired to an F250, just a
kind of a different animal. Uh this is
[1:16:58] also, you know, it's not towing large
loads, but it is moving. It's got an 8
[1:17:04] foot bed, so it's a fullsize truck, so
we can use that. Um, a lot of Bruce's
[1:17:09] vehicles and some of even our other
parks vehicles are it's like um
[1:17:15] overkill, I guess would be the best way
to say it. Um, having the current truck
[1:17:19] we have now is a is a Chevy Silverado.
So, again, a smaller pickup. So, we're
[1:17:23] replacing like with like because that's
what works to get around to all those
[1:17:28] picnic spots and trails and it's it's
nice to have something that's smaller as
[1:17:32] opposed to a
>> got it
[1:17:34] » big beast of a truck. Am I correct that
I think we you'd allocated 55 thou this
[1:17:38] was the planned and we'd allocated
55,000 for this but we're going to get
[1:17:42] it for almost 10,000 less. Is that
correct?
[1:17:45] » That's correct.
>> So where did I'm just curious where's
[1:17:47] that 10,000 go?
>> Well it's going to it would stay in the
[1:17:51] capital improvement fund.
>> Yeah.
[1:17:53] » Um
and just knowing budgets as I know
[1:17:57] budgets likely going to be something
else.
[1:17:59] » Hypothetically an air conditioning
repair.
[1:18:01] » I hope not. Um, but if it does not get
spent, then it stays it stays in the
[1:18:06] capital improvement fund.
>> Okay. Yeah.
[1:18:08] » But it's nice to have a rainy day if
things when things if things pop up,
[1:18:12] » right? If something else pops up.
>> Okay.
[1:18:14] » Good. Other questions from the council?
>> I noticed this both on the earlier truck
[1:18:18] thing, but didn't really think to ask
the question. Uh, the hybrid versus
[1:18:23] non-hybrid, was any effort made to look
at a hybrid version?
[1:18:27] » Um,
>> and I I have no idea what the price
[1:18:30] difference would be. I do know that uh
the electric versions were obviously out
[1:18:36] of our out of that price range and we
also don't have the capacity for
[1:18:40] charging stations and I don't believe
there are uh really available around a
[1:18:45] lot of spots around all of that if I'm
mistaken on that. I apologize.
[1:18:49] » Hybrid hybrid wouldn't be electric
necessarily.
[1:18:52] » Yeah, that would be um we did not look
into any any hybrid um trucks for for
[1:18:57] this truck specifically.
Perhaps something to think about as we
[1:19:01] look at when we replace future ones is
does it make sense or do they wear down
[1:19:05] sooner? I don't I don't know.
>> Yeah. And getting I think it'd be
[1:19:08] interesting to get kind of a cost
comparison if you know you you pay more
[1:19:11] for it upfront but
>> with gas two years, you know, does it
[1:19:15] even out?
>> Oh, well. All right.
[1:19:18] » First thoughts. [laughter]
>> All right. Having experience with hybrid
[1:19:22] vehicles, the nature of our driving
patterns doesn't really suit the
[1:19:26] recharging of the batteries means we
stop and go. We have a lot of idle time.
[1:19:31] We don't ever hit that high roadway
highway speed where you can really coast
[1:19:36] along and generate the battery, you
know, battery recharge in there. So, it
[1:19:42] it's not a great use. It's it's sort of
like the same thing with the diesel
[1:19:47] trucks with us. We never really get up
to uh full operating speed like highway
[1:19:52] speeds for long duration for these um
emissions controls to really clean out
[1:19:59] the filters and regenerate and do the
things. It's just the nature of our
[1:20:03] driving that it isn't really suited for
some of these things. If that
[1:20:07] » it's interest you say that just because
I have a hybrid car that's two years old
[1:20:10] and I find that I do best when I'm
idling and or going slow and stop I it
[1:20:16] charges more on braking than it does on
actually when I go is when I get the
[1:20:19] when I go on highways I get the worst
>> miles per gallon. So
[1:20:23] » and that's my that's the same experience
for me.
[1:20:25] » Yeah. I haven't stop and go is when it's
at its best.
[1:20:28] » Yeah. Yeah. What do you consider?
[1:20:33] » I will keep that mind in there because
my experiences on my hybrid.
[1:20:37] » I still think we're gonna move forward
through with the hybrids and I might be
[1:20:41] different,
you know.
[1:20:44] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. But I do think, you know, I'm fine
[1:20:46] moving forward now. But I really, you
know, it's
[1:20:49] » each of these decisions that we make,
>> right? Whenever there's an opportunity
[1:20:54] to make a decision that's better for the
climate and potentially hopefully better
[1:20:59] for us long term, that's going to be
where I'm going to want to want to move
[1:21:03] us.
>> Maybe curious what other cities are
[1:21:04] doing if it's if they found on hybrid
trucks something.
[1:21:07] » Yeah, I I I think there are certainly
some opportunities in the fleet um for
[1:21:12] for some of these improvements. I don't
know whether we're ready in the heavy
[1:21:17] trucks yet
>> uh for those. I know in the emission
[1:21:21] side of it, like I said, with the diesel
trucks that we went through with these
[1:21:25] almost zero emissions with these, it's
called selective catalyst reduction. We
[1:21:29] went that route and it really was
disastrous for us. Uh to the point that
[1:21:34] we're going back to to gasoline vehicles
whenever we can because it's just the
[1:21:38] way we're operating the vehicles.
>> So, um I'm I'm very hesitant about
[1:21:42] jumping into some of those.
>> Sure. And I think technology will
[1:21:46] continue to improve and and things will
be road tested elsewhere which will
[1:21:50] provide
>> you know Patrick brought up a great
[1:21:52] point you know for full electric
vehicles you know there is an
[1:21:56] opportunity here if we can get the
charging infrastructure in you know I
[1:22:00] think that there is there is a use for
that certainly our cold weather
[1:22:04] operations are a different you know use
pattern with the batteries that's
[1:22:07] something to be wary of uh uh with those
uh in our experiences even with our
[1:22:12] lighting and the other items that are
electric, but there are some
[1:22:16] opportunities for uh for adding to the
fleet in the electric.
[1:22:20] » That would be interesting as we redesign
parks, buildings, and you know,
[1:22:23] maintenance areas is do we put an
electric charger in and build down the
[1:22:26] budget or something in the future?
Because we need the infrastructure
[1:22:28] before you can buy it because there's
not a lot to
[1:22:30] » go in in parallel, right? You know,
that's what you're looking at. You
[1:22:33] purchase the truck, but you have these
associated costs, whether it's the
[1:22:36] logos, the lamps, or the charging,
>> you know, in the garage and then the
[1:22:40] cable and then to do those. Um, as we've
moved away from, you know, the trend has
[1:22:45] gone from full electric back to hybrid,
we might see some more efficiencies in
[1:22:50] the design and the delivery of those
trucks, you know, and vehicles having
[1:22:54] more options uh for hybrid.
>> Yeah. And I don't know if the trucks
[1:22:57] have been focused as primary. It's more
maybe more passenger type price, but
[1:23:01] good for
>> something. So,
[1:23:03] » but I think maybe the question to our
city manager would be for future vehicle
[1:23:08] requests if we can get a see what the
difference in price. But we can
[1:23:11] certainly ask
>> gas hybrid versus electric just so we
[1:23:14] have a better idea
>> of what that looks like and we can talk
[1:23:18] about it.
>> Yeah.
[1:23:20] » All right.
>> Information is always helpful.
[1:23:22] » I'll ask if there's a motion.
>> I'll make a motion to authorize the city
[1:23:26] manager to issue a purchase order to Joe
Mockin Ford in an amount not to exceed
[1:23:32] $45,168.
>> Second. All right. Will we please pull
[1:23:36] the council?
[1:23:43] Council member Draguel.
>> Yes.
[1:23:44] » Council member Solomonov.
>> Yes.
[1:23:46] » Council member Clark.
>> Yes.
[1:23:48] » Council uh Chairman Prom Shan Halman.
>> Yes.
[1:23:50] » Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.
[1:23:51] » Motion has passed.
>> Where's Joe M? I don't know where that
[1:23:55] is.
>> You're getting good business from us.
[1:23:57] So,
>> all right. We'll move on. Item 15,
[1:23:59] authorization of an agreement for the
park ops storage building.
[1:24:05] » Hello again. It's uh Patrick McGee, the
assistant u parks and recreation
[1:24:10] director. Um for those of you that don't
know, our parks department, you know, we
[1:24:15] do did get a new park ops building uh
right around the same time that uh five
[1:24:20] oaks had opened. And that became a home
for, you know, our trucks, a lot of
[1:24:25] equipment. And
one thing that we realized really
[1:24:29] quickly is that we have a large lot over
u right behind the former site at the uh
[1:24:34] old community center at 9723 Grand View.
And we as we have started to really put
[1:24:43] everything away in that building. We
realized that we still had a lot of
[1:24:48] highv value equipment, whether it be
toolcat attachments, uh whether it be
[1:24:52] tractors that we were trying to squirrel
away in other areas like our Stacy
[1:24:56] storage building, um as well as
expensive um tools, you know, other
[1:25:03] machinery, uh mowers, uh tractors,
things that we were trying to squeeze in
[1:25:07] a building that was very difficult for
us to do. Um, we had really worked hard
[1:25:15] to find a solution to that. Um, to see
if there was room at public works, you
[1:25:20] know, to see where we could put some of
this equipment because, as you know,
[1:25:24] leaving anything, especially steel
outside all year round. It's, you know,
[1:25:29] we're dealing with rust. We're dealing
with things uh breaking, just kind of
[1:25:33] seizing up and not working when we need
them most. And those are some of those
[1:25:38] attachments for our tool cap for
instance are they just take up a lot of
[1:25:41] space. We have also kind of repurposed
every single inch and I encourage
[1:25:46] anybody if they ever want to see our
park ops building. It is probably one of
[1:25:50] the most organized places I've ever
been. Uh we have outlines for tools and
[1:25:56] tool pegs uh pegboards everywhere for
tools but we've repurposed that beyond
[1:26:01] its use. And we our horiculturist is
growing plants on a shelf on the side of
[1:26:07] a garage bay on the side where his truck
parks. And we're just trying to maximize
[1:26:11] our efficiency so that we can use that
building and also keep the value of
[1:26:17] these tools that we have spent a lot of
money on to to last as long as we need
[1:26:22] them to. And this building would just be
a three-sided building. Um we worked
[1:26:27] with uh Gordian which is a SourceBall
provider and SourceWell allows
[1:26:32] government nonprofits to buy prevetted
products and services and they also help
[1:26:37] us find a contractor to do this without
the uh doing our own independent bidding
[1:26:43] process because we would have had to do
concrete. We'd have had to do all this
[1:26:46] piece by piece and as parks and recck
people, not necessarily our strong suit
[1:26:50] to go out and build this uh you know
storage structure for our tools. So we
[1:26:56] wanted to work with them. So Gordian set
us up with a company uh construct
[1:27:01] construction company called Brown and
Routt and they put together a plan which
[1:27:04] you'll see in your um submission here
that goes through everything that we
[1:27:09] needed. Uh this building does have three
bays and at the end of those bays there
[1:27:14] would be
shelves for us to with our tool kats we
[1:27:18] can actually place things on those
shelves inside of those bays. So whether
[1:27:22] it be a mowing attachment, a flail
cutter, um a grapple, a grappler
[1:27:27] attachment, all these things that we use
on a very frequent basis, we can
[1:27:31] actually put on those shelves. And this
would get stuff out of the area to where
[1:27:36] you can actually work on projects inside
the garage, which they currently cannot
[1:27:40] do. And then there would also be a
external building, just an enclosed
[1:27:46] building with with one man door. That
would be where all the horiculturist
[1:27:50] tools and supplies and things like that
they need to keep under locking key
[1:27:56] which is things you know whether it be
chemicals, herbicides, things like that.
[1:27:59] So it is does kind of create a safe
haven for that stuff too. So, it is
[1:28:06] this was a long and thoughtout project
that we've been I think working on for
[1:28:10] at least two years out of the three
years I've been here. And I think it is
[1:28:14] a good direction for for the city and to
extend the life of all of our equipment,
[1:28:19] tractors, and other things and to keep
this stuff covered and out of the
[1:28:23] elements. So,
>> happy to answer any questions that you
[1:28:28] might have.
>> Questions from council? Is there a
[1:28:31] reason we wouldn't do just an enclosed
building with garage doors?
[1:28:35] » Um, so we went through so many
iterations of this building to see
[1:28:39] obviously we do have the enclosed
building already. Um, this building was
[1:28:44] mainly just to keep stuff out of the
elements and keep stuff off of the the
[1:28:47] parking lot and also to kind of bring
some sense of organization to that
[1:28:51] space. it is, you know, a large lot and
we knew that we had the building still
[1:28:56] for things that we really need to keep,
you know, HVAC controlled, you know,
[1:29:00] things like that. So, that was um the
reason the three-sided building is we're
[1:29:04] really just looking for
>> something to cover and cost. Yeah, it'll
[1:29:08] have a roof. It'll be uh if you look at
the last page, there's um kind of a
[1:29:14] » a
an idea of what of what they're
[1:29:19] building. They're still working on, you
know, before we enter this contract,
[1:29:22] they'll work up shop drawings and and
actually kind of give us an idea of what
[1:29:26] this would look like on the space.
>> And then, uh, brand new soccer goals
[1:29:30] that we bought last year, are they going
to go are they in a different building?
[1:29:35] » Uh, you said the side by
>> the soccer goals.
[1:29:38] » Oh, the soccer goals. Those will go in
the backside of that behind the uh
[1:29:43] behind there. So, they will be covered.
And our park staff did build a large
[1:29:47] rack um that we can actually slot those
in cuz before when we had soccer goals,
[1:29:52] they would just get lane basically laid
down in a pile
[1:29:55] » and you know, water would get inside of
them and they would rust and our park
[1:29:59] staff did a great job of creating
storage for those and um really making
[1:30:04] it easy to put them back together each
year, too. So
[1:30:07] » cool. Okay, thanks.
>> So the renderings, there's a page just
[1:30:11] before this one. are those the more
active um or more accurate drawings that
[1:30:17] one where it
>> so that's that's what it looks like um
[1:30:20] you know and we just kind of wanted to
give you an idea of like a little closer
[1:30:24] up which would be in those bays and
those are things that we we're not we
[1:30:27] don't we have a mowing contract for
instance so our mowers don't need to be
[1:30:32] you know stuck in the shop where we have
to you know kind of move around them
[1:30:36] just we have a lot of ingress and egress
problems when we put all that equipment
[1:30:41] in there and you need get something to
get it out. It's just um tough. We also
[1:30:45] designed that park ops building to have
a wash bay and with Brian growing plants
[1:30:50] along that wall, we can't wash our
trucks in there without, you know,
[1:30:54] damaging or doing anything to to his
plants, too. So, we're trying to utilize
[1:30:58] the places the way it was meant to be
and also kind of safeguard that stuff.
[1:31:02] » So, the fencing or gates that are in
front of that that you anticipate those
[1:31:06] being part of each of the bays that
there's some kind of barrier? So yeah, I
[1:31:11] think that that uh would would
definitely be something that we would
[1:31:14] like to do to keep that stuff safe. That
as you know that build or that lot is
[1:31:19] kind of accessible um if you just kind
of
[1:31:22] » there isn't a fence or a gate
>> there. There is
[1:31:25] » on the from the parking lot in is there
>> there is our park staff built a gate for
[1:31:30] that but um there's also like if you're
walking up the trail on the side of the
[1:31:35] baseball fields like you can sneak
around there if you really need to. So,
[1:31:39] » so you do plan to have a gate with
locks?
[1:31:42] » Yeah, we plan to to do that after the
building gets done. We want to put some
[1:31:48] kind of a access area up there, but we
do have a gate coming into the parking
[1:31:52] lot, but for this this was kind of our
our iteration and if we have enough
[1:31:57] funds to do that, we definitely would
like to put some kind of a closure on it
[1:32:00] to keep everything safe.
>> Have there been any issues with theft
[1:32:03] with the equipment and items just kind
of sitting on the parking lot? We have
[1:32:08] had, you know, I think one of the things
when you put stuff in a pile, it gets a
[1:32:14] little tougher to realize when
something's gone until you need it and
[1:32:17] then you're like, did it get, you know,
misplaced? Was it broken? You know,
[1:32:21] there's things like that. Um, I'm sure
anywhere where people are trying to
[1:32:25] scrap metal when all of that essentially
is is metal that people could take for
[1:32:30] scrap. Um, you know, I don't think we've
had a a huge problem of theft back
[1:32:36] there, but I know that, you know, that
trucks have, you know, been gone through
[1:32:41] in that back lot or in the upper lot up
there before, too. So, I think it's just
[1:32:45] something that we want to make sure we
can protect it as as much as possible.
[1:32:49] » And then this will is, if I'm
understanding the layout, will this sit
[1:32:54] perpendicular to like if this is the
main storage shed that exists, will this
[1:32:59] sit perpendicular in the back of the
lot? So, that's a great question. So,
[1:33:03] the original idea for us would be for it
to be west of where the current one is.
[1:33:09] So, if you walked out the garage bay of
the current park ops building, you would
[1:33:13] be looking at it.
>> Now, if any of you have ever been on
[1:33:16] that lot, it does have a slight downhill
slope. Then, it also slopes to a storm
[1:33:21] drain over on the right.
One thing that we found through this
[1:33:25] long long process was that that
increased the cost of concrete because
[1:33:29] then you have to deal with the downhill
slope. You also have to have it slope to
[1:33:34] the drain still because that water
that's going to run still has to get to
[1:33:37] that drain. And we are working with
Brown and Route to possibly identify
[1:33:42] when you walk out the park ops building
a space on the left which is still in
[1:33:47] the lot and would still be usable and it
still has and it's a little flatter. So
[1:33:52] they are looking at at both of those
options to find because what we wouldn't
[1:33:56] want to do is if we build it straight in
front of the current park ops building
[1:34:00] and we're dealing with those slopes then
putting [snorts] shelves in there become
[1:34:03] unstable. If you want to put a vehicle
up on jacks to change a tire, you're
[1:34:08] doing so on a on a slight incline that
you couldn't fix purely with concrete
[1:34:13] unless it was very expensive and a lot
of foundational work for the uh for the
[1:34:17] floor of the building. So,
>> so it sounds like the the actual
[1:34:21] location where this is going to go is
still somewhat
[1:34:24] » it is we have a um site meeting with
grounding route tomorrow and that we
[1:34:30] they have a full plan to build it on
that current site west of the current
[1:34:33] building. Uh but one of the things that
we're trying to realize is that that
[1:34:38] slope could present problems with
shelving. It'll look,
[1:34:43] you know, but there will be a slope to
the sidewalk or to the um the um
[1:34:49] concrete. Thank you.
>> The concrete on the ground. And
[1:34:53] » I just I think that that would be
difficult to put shelves up when you
[1:34:57] have even just a a slight, you know,
decline. So, we just want to make sure
[1:35:02] that what we're putting up there is is
safe to do. So
[1:35:06] » just kind of in lie of our most recent
conversation seeing this lovely sloped
[1:35:11] roof and thinking is there a way it
could be oriented so that that slope
[1:35:15] faces south for future potential solar
panels.
[1:35:19] » Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but that location would
make, you know, it have to be that I
[1:35:24] think that location would probably be
pretty tricky because it's right at the
[1:35:27] entrance where people would be coming in
from the main parking lot and
[1:35:31] potentially could hinder traffic flow
and then it's closer to residential
[1:35:35] areas. So, I don't
>> I know you're considering all the
[1:35:38] things. Um, the building seems
important, necessary, and I'll just drop
[1:35:43] that little thing [laughter] to to add
into the considerations as well.
[1:35:49] » Fair.
And we have worked with uh you know sat
[1:35:52] down and talked with Carlos and and
Bruce as well about about this project
[1:35:56] along the way and uh quite a few
meetings about how we could do this. I
[1:36:00] mean for a three-sided building uh has
had a lot of of thought put into it and
[1:36:05] our parks department is at the forefront
of that. they've been a uh pushing the
[1:36:11] envelope for this because, you know,
they do a lot of work and they're
[1:36:14] finally getting the tools to do those
things and they really hate to see those
[1:36:18] tools be left outside to endure whatever
St. Louis has to offer weatherwise. So,
[1:36:24] all right, other questions
and if do I hear a motion, please? I'll
[1:36:30] make a motion to authorize the city
manager to enter an agreement with
[1:36:34] Cordian and Brown and Route to complete
services outlined in the work order at
[1:36:39] 9723 Grand View not to exceed 175,000.
>> Second.
[1:36:44] » All right. May we please pull the
council?
[1:36:46] » Council member Dal.
>> Yes.
[1:36:47] » Council member Solomonov.
>> Yes.
[1:36:49] » Council member Clark.
>> Yes.
[1:36:50] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
>> Yes.
[1:36:52] » Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.
[1:36:53] » Motion is passed.
>> Thank you very much. Thanks.
[1:36:56] » Thank you.
>> We spent some money tonight. Look at
[1:36:59] that. All right,
>> move on to item 16, hearing from
[1:37:04] citizens. Same conditions apply. Is
there anyone in the audience who wishes
[1:37:08] to speak?
All right. Anyone online, please raise
[1:37:13] your hand and signify that you wish to
speak?
[1:37:20] Okay,
we'll move on then. Uh, can we move on
[1:37:23] to item 17, review and acceptance of
minutes. Does anyone have any
[1:37:26] corrections of the minutes?
>> No. No. Can we please have a motion?
[1:37:33] » Like to make a motion to accept the
minutes, the council minutes from August
[1:37:37] 25th, 2026 and a work session from
September 12th, 2026 or 1st, sorry,
[1:37:43] September 1st.
>> All right. Motion made. Second.
[1:37:46] » Second. Please call the council.
>> Council member Juel.
[1:37:50] » Yes.
>> Council member Solommanov.
[1:37:52] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[1:37:53] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[1:37:55] » Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.
[1:37:56] » Yes.
>> The motion is passed.
[1:37:58] All right, we'll move on to item 18,
city attorney's report.
[1:38:02] » No report this evening, but we do have a
close session pursuant to subsection one
[1:38:05] of 1621.
>> All right, moving on to item 19 then for
[1:38:09] the closed session. Do I hear a motion
to go into close session
[1:38:11] » and two? I'm sorry. Subsection one and
two.
[1:38:14] » All right.
[1:38:18] Could somebody make a motion for
>> make a motion to move into close session
[1:38:22] pursuant to the revised statutes of the
state of Missouri to discuss legal,
[1:38:26] confidential, or privilege attorney
client matters pursuant to section
[1:38:29] 610.0211,
real estate matters pursuant to section
[1:38:34] 610.0212.
>> Seconded.
[1:38:38] » You please pull the council.
>> My choice. Uh, council member Tal.
[1:38:41] » Yes.
>> Council member Solommanov.
[1:38:43] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[1:38:44] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[1:38:46] » Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis. Yes,
[1:38:49] » pursuing to that we will close this
regular session and move into close
[1:38:52] session.
[1:39:02] » Uh we have exited close session and we
are reopening the meeting. No major
[1:39:05] decisions were made at this point. I'll
take a motion to adjurnn.
[1:39:08] » Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second.
[1:39:10] » Second. All right. We're adjourned at
10:06 p.m. Good night, everyone.