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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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and to the republic for which it stands.
One nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.
>> Thank you everybody. We'll do a quick

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roll call here to determine the quorum.
Bobby Gardner is absent. Evers here.

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Ferguson's absent. I'm here. Howard, we
do have a forum. We'll call the meeting

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to order here. Uh the first uh part of
our meeting is the public forum portion.

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Um if uh the public wants to address
council on any items that aren't on the

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agenda, this is a time uh the public can
do so. We ask that uh um that you state

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your name for the meeting record.
Speaking times are generally limited to

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three minutes. Uh if there's like
unfinished business after those three

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minutes are done, we'll either direct
staff take take some action or we will

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add the item into a discussion item uh
for the council to consider later on in

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the agenda. So if there's anybody here
from the public who wishes to address

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council, now's the time. I think these
other guys are on the agenda. Yeah.

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» Could you come to the table right here?
This allows us to record better meeting

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and all that.
>> I'm Bob Elbert. Hi Bob.

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» I'm here on behalf of my neighbors. The
the south side of us lives on the other

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side of it. The letter I got here is the
map is wrong. The map's right, but the

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605 on the 601.
Todd lives across the street or almost

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Miami.
>> Sure.

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» And there was maybe other meetings. I
should have come here before this

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because there was ongoing issues with
our neighbor.

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» Okay.
>> It's more his house keeping. I mean,

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he's had tires outside.
>> Sure.

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» You spray for mosquitoes and stuff which
bring the mosquitoes and tires and now

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you guys allowed him to put a fence up
which was right. But I and so far he's

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done a good job on the fence and I
created him for that. He's three feet

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right there and now he come up with the
deal that he can put a fence right on my

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line in front by the driveway.
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» Well, all the all his stuff there. Two
years ago he dug out his his slope was

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like this. So he dug it out. End up with
a retaining m Well, that never finished.

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So that brings mosquitoes and flies.
Whatever. Gory sprays puts fertilizer

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on. We hire someone to do spraying
fertilizer and ours are clean. His

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dandelions, the only time they get it is
when he takes the clipper over them,

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which they can spread really easy.
And now I I come in here and I talk to I

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can't remember the name, but now you
you're going to allow him to put the

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more of a fence
on right on the concrete right there

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where he's got maybe this far, maybe a
foot to go for my line exactly on my

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line.
And uh then the way I see here, he's

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going to put a gate there. But what
we're doing and you're doing it, you're

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allowing him to enclosed his whole work
so he can put his couple lawnmowers that

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don't run a snowmobile maybe back there.
All his tires went back outside after he

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got a ticket from the police or
something. So that's it's you're

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allowing him just to hide everything.
That's what And if this goes through,

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I'm okay with it, but I I would
appreciate it if he would to come over

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and talk to me before he just starts
digging holes in there.

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» Sure.
>> I mean, they seem like a nice couple or

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they're not married.
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» And I guess I mean I got to go with it
if that's the policy you got if they can

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go right on the line. But he was 3 feet
back here which matched up to his

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garage. He did a nice job on his fence.
It didn't look bad. But you still got

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the all the clutter back there. His
housekeeping isn't good, you know.

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» Yeah.
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I mean there were there's I got there
the front yard looks bad and all the

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cars and I can't say if they got tabs on
or up to date. Police been over there a

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few times about this issue.
And I I guess if you got more questions,

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you can ask my neighbor Todd.
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Yeah, he's Todd's been pretty hopeful
about it here in the past.

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» I guess that's all I got to say. I mean,
I can't do nothing if you're going to

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allow him to do that. It's just it looks
good now the way he's got, but you can't

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» hide. You're just hiding stuff. That's
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And uh it's what he hides is stuff that
don't work. Don't you don't use their

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stuff.
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» I guess that's all I got to say what we
can do with it. And from there, I know I

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got the letter here and stuff and
I tried to keep it down to 30 minutes. I

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talked to you today.
>> You did. [laughter]

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» So, any questions or anything for Bob?

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» Our our ordinance states that a fence
can go on the property line.

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» That's that's what you're allowing them
to just hide all this whatever he's got.

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There's been there's one right up in his
driveway that's been sitting there a

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year. There's a old car. It's sitting
over on the other side in between the

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house and his garage. That's been
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and he's he sells vehicles out of there.
He works on vehicles. He sells them.

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Does mechanical work. Sure. But I don't
know if he's got a license with the

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state or not, but that's up to someone
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Um, as far as these other nuisances,
those are are being um

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» they're going through our nuisance
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» being served here.
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attorney's office and our city
prosecutor office for these issues,

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particularly with the car issues.
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tires, when when receiving a notice
about the tires, the tires did disappear

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from there. They went in his garage,
then they went back home after the fence

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was up cuz he told me it's worth the
tigers.

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» We still, regardless if you have a fence
or not, our nuisances policies still

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apply. Um, so we we still if there are
ongoing issues, will work and follow and

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continue to follow the process. Yeah,
that's the only that's the only thing

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that I was going to offer up to the
council if we we were going to have any

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consideration or discussion here is if
there's if we're still able to enforce

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nuisances as we typically are uh if
there's a fence up and then that it

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sounds like that that is the case. Looks
like Pam's gonna ready to chime in here.

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You're muted though.
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camera in case I got a question. Oh, so
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» but I agree with Elizabeth that you know
your nuisance um ordinances still apply

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and so you'd have to look at the
pictures and from whether you know those

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are inoperable vehicles.
Um outdoor storage that isn't allowed

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there. I'd have to I was just trying to
pull up the ordinance on outdoor

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storage. So um we would could take a
look at those types of things.

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Pam is our city attorney. She's the one
that's helping us enforce these

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businesses here.
>> You talk to them. They seem real nice to

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me.
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» They got three kids there. Two there and
one up and up.

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» We'll uh you know, we'll do everything
that's that's written in our our code to

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keep up with the nuisances there. Right
now we're we're going through these

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processes. We have the courts involved
on them as well. and uh you know we

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» but I think he's been pulled in 12 times
within a year.

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» Sure.
>> So there's bigger problem than what I'm

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saying probably.
>> Um so uh with with knowing that we can

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still enforce nuisances. Um
I I'm not sure if there's there's

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anything the council can legally do at
this point to stop him from putting that

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fence up.
Well, and the the important thing is

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that you're coming in to let us know
about the nuisances because when the

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fence goes up, we might not see it, but
you'll still see the the increase in the

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mosquitoes and the flies and all the
other critters in the area that are

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going to be bothering you as neighbors.
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» you tighten it up, but it's still
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know, those water pools are there and
you know, so that Yeah. So we might not

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see it with the fence, but you are still
being affected by it and you see it. So

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this is Yeah,
>> this is about two weeks ago. He was

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hauling lumber in. They say he's fixing
up the basement. He said next year I

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might be able to sell the place. I told
Barb, I said maybe I should go back and

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tell him to fix the back yard up first,
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» Anyway,
>> we appreciate we we appreciate you

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coming.
>> Okay, that's all I got to say.

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» Thank you. Thanks for listening.
>> Any uh any other members of the

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community here to address council?
>> You're good.

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» Okay. Thanks.
>> Thank you guys.

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» Thank you.
>> All right. We'll close down the public

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forum portion of the meeting and move
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» Um
if there's anything from the consent

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agenda you all moved into discussion
items, now's a good time to bring it up.

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There's any other business to bring up,
you know, now's good time to add it to

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discussion items.
Otherwise, I'll call for a motion to

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approve tonight's agenda.
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» Motion's been made by Evers, seconded by
Ferguson to approve the agenda. Any

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other discussion?
>> Hearing none, all in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Any opposed. All right. Agenda is set as

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written. We'll move down to the consent
agenda. It includes the meeting minutes

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from August 17, a staff movement for
Jodie Gilbert's uh designating the city

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administrator to serve as acting city
clerk during extended leave. uh

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approving the transition to Microsoft
365GCC,

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declaring a slum and blighted area,
accepting a quote from AM Electric for

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electrical department equipment
purchase, and then our August

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dispersements.
Call for a motion to approve tonight's

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consent agenda. So move
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» Motion's been made by Ferguson, seconded
by Howard to approve the consent agenda

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as written. Any other discussion?
Hearing none, all in favor say I. I.

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» Any opposed? Consent agenda is approved
as written. Moving down to the

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discussion items. What we have in front
of us is the process for a public

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hearing to consider the vacation of
certain open space easements. The

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process for this is receive some staff
reports, then receive public comment,

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and then to close close the public
hearing and take any action. So, at this

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point, we'll gladly take some staff
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» Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so this is a
vacation of a open st of the open space

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ement. Um, I think you've heard me talk
about this a couple of different times.

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Um, vacating or also known as kind of
removing the open space easement. It

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that's on currently several properties
in the area. It's created a lot of

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confusion over what this open space
easement is. Um what we have determined

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with this open space easement is it
prohibits development on the area of the

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easement. Um which we are have currently
secured utility easements on a lot of

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that which means you can't build on a
utility easement anyway. Nothing about

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the actual property will change. Nobody
will see a change. It will not be used

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in any different way. This is something
we need to do legally. Um there from the

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legal perspective, we had our lawyers
take a look at it. We believe the open

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space easement could have already been
extinguished when the properties all

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fell under common ownership. But it was
acknowledged that it was a very messy

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situation and going through the formal
vacation process for this open space

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easement was the cleanest solution
moving forward. We have had discussions

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with the hospital as well because we are
currently in discussions with the

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hospital and county on conveying these
20 ft to the clinic for their westerly

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access where this open space easement
is. Um we the city is maintaining the

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utility easement that went with one open
space easement. So you can see here it's

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two different easements. Here is an
existing easement for open space as well

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as utilities. We're retaining that
utility easement. We're just proposing

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to vacate the open space easement
associated with this map. And then

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exhibit B is the other open space
easements as well. So this is what we're

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proposing to vacate. You can see they're
kind of all over the place. Particularly

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also that EDA is looking to develop this
area and are inactive conversations with

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developers. This would also impact
future development. So removing the open

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space easements um ease all of that.
So this is all a part of you know

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cleaning up that that area so it's it's
more more square uh so everybody has a

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clear idea of of the ownership of of the
associated properties. Um this is

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something that the EDA and planning and
zoning have been working very hard to to

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simplify this purchase
uh while also uh maintaining

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uh a focus on the existing burning
businesses there. So

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» for the record, can we state where this
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» Yes. So this is um right here north is
traditions. Right here is the clinic

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that houses dialysis and TC aiology. And
this is the old hospital lot where the

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EDA owns those properties. So you have
Fair View on the North Street and this

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» Does that help orient everything?

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» Thank Oh, okay. Thank you very much,
Elizabeth. At this point, if anybody is

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here to address council on the
consideration of vacation of certain

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open space easements, I ask that you
address council now. Not seeing any

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movement on that right now. So, we'll uh
we'll close the public hearing portion

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of of this item here. uh open back up
for resolution 87, which is the vacation

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of certain easements for open space
affecting real property located in the

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city of Olivia. That's resolution 87.
I'll call for a motion to approve

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resolution 87.
>> So moved.

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» Second.
>> Motion's made by Howard, seconded by

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Evers to approve resolution 87. Any
other discussion? Hearing none, all in

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favor say I.
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» Any opposed? Resolution 887 um passes.
Okay. Now we have another uh public

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hearing to go through here. We'll take
some staff reports on a conditional use

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permit.
>> Thank you. So um this is for a

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conditional use permit to establish
outdoor storage facility what's

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currently within the I1 light
manufacturing industrial district. So

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this is the address is 21102 Fair View
Avenue. Uh the property use consists of

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outdoor storage bases for boats,
campers, fish houses, trailers,

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vehicles. Um the property was formerly
utilized as a feed lot. Um contained a

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lot of different structures. The
applicant has been diligently removing

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them. Thank you. Um and staff has found
that the proposal qualifies as open

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storage um as the primary use and that's
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district I mentioned previously.
Um, we have noted that open storage

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screening requirements are required. Um,
and they should certainly be considered

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by the city council as part of the
conditional use permit requirements. So,

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screening requirements could be a fence,
could be bushes, um, just an active

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screen. Um when the planning commission
uh discussed this, there is a

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stipulation that there is currently in
our code an 8-foot screening requirement

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and planning commission is interested in
reviewing that to see if 8 foot is

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really necessary. More of them felt like
six feet would suffice. So they are

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looking at um amending that screening
requirement in the future from 8T to six

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feet. Um, and overall staff is
recommending the approval of this

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conditional use permit subject to the
following conditions. That it's operated

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as an outdoor storage facility. Um,
storing junk, salvage materials,

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dismantled vehicles, hazardous
materials, or similar nuisance materials

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not prohibited. Um, any outdoor lighting
that's established should be directed

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downwards to minimize light spillover to
neighboring properties. the outdoor

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storage area should be limited to the
proposed fenced area. Um, and then if

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they expand the storage area, they need
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use permit if they're expanding. And
then again, that they should require

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comply with the open storage
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um, open storage screening requirements,
but it is possible that that could be

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amended. So we're putting a timeline of
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the conditional use permit.
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included a beautiful map
just exhibit. So exhibit of the legal

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description.
>> So everybody know the property I'm

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talking about or do you want me to pull
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for in humorous. Thank you. Absolutely.
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Yeah.
>> So then if this if the open storage

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screening requirement goes down to six
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to
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» Correct. That's why we would we are
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to come within compliance of that
screening requirement because the commit

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the planning commission is looking at
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not asking them to build it on day one.
We're asking them to give us a little

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time to consider an amendment and then
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screening requirement.
So, if we pass a resolution for it

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today,
>> um, and I don't know if you know the

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answer, Pam, do we have to pass it with
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» the resolution? The resolution includes
those conditions that I just stated.

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» Yep.
>> I'm sorry, that was my staff report. We

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can get into discussion in a little bit.
>> Anybody here from the public to here to

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address council on this proposed
conditional use permit? property owner

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if you'd like to come up.
>> I sure can.

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» He's going to be like, "Please."
>> Yeah. Item P from Augustus, the property

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owner.
>> Whatever questions you may have.

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» There's the property.
>> Any questions from council for Keith?

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» We bought all the fencing stuff already.
>> Yes.

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» Okay.
>> And then you're tearing all that down.

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» I already did. It's all cleared out.
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What do we look for?
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» it's not a smart board, but
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looking at, this is all concrete here
except for this section, which I've

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already rocked and filled in and packed,
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the uh cattle shoots, this has all been
cleared. This fencing's been cleared.

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This lean has all been cleared. This
concrete is all there yet. So the area

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that we're talking about fencing, it's
120 ft wide that goes from here to here

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by 180t deep that goes back here. So
that's the square. This section I'm not

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doing anything with yet, but the square
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with your gating.
>> So in this area

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» where your gating will be right here
>> and that's why the fencing is required

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is because it's kind of essentially like
just loose out there,

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» right?
There's a screening requirement in our

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screening requirement, but that makes
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» It's part of our city for
>> Yeah. No, that's a good part of our

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» Any other questions for Keith?

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» All right, Keith. Now, we need to hear
somebody complain about it. So, if you

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can
nothing to complain, I think Dave's here

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to complain. Oh, thanks. [laughter]

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Everybody you feel like they got a good
idea what's going on?

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» Yeah.
>> Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.

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» All right.
>> Marissa's here to answer any code

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questions. Do you have questions about
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» Anybody else from the public want to
address council on this? All right.

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Anybody have any questions for Marissa?
>> How do you feel about the six to eight?

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» Uh, very good.
>> Okay.

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» I think it's a good move at 7 ft. it
becomes a building permit then you have

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to have a lot higher requirement uh
because of the height. So at six feet

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we're not requiring anyone to go above
and beyond that. They can do that at

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their discretion. If they want to go
higher then they will have to engage in

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the necessary uh professional uh
services to have that height. But if

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we're trying to remove higher
requirements, six feet is a good

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starting point and then they can choose.

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» Thank you very much.
>> All right. Uh so there's a resolution

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tied to this. It's resolution 88
approving a conditional use permit for

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open storage as a primary use on
property located within the I1 light

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manufacturing industrial district. I'll
call for a motion to approve resolution

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88. So move
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» Motion's been made by Howard, seconded
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other discussion?
>> Just pointing out at the end of

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» Oh, pardon me.
>> At the end of the resolution is the

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conditions that discussed.
>> Oh.

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Uh, any other discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Any opposed? All right. Motion carries.

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Thank you everybody.
>> Thank you.

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» All right. Mike is here to talk about
our police chief hiring process.

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» Want me to sit here? Both of us or do I
have to sit? Can I walk or you want me

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to?
>> You can walk.

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» Oh, okay.
>> You can walk.

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» Let me do this. I I don't know if I need
to introduce myself, but I'm my uncle

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with South Central South Central Service
Cooperative. I appreciate the

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opportunity to work with you guys again.
And hopefully we're as successful as we

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were the last time around. And so
I have a partner with me. Well, I've

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been in local government for 39 years.
I've only hired or assisted in the

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hiring of two police chiefs. One's
sitting right here and and the other one

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had had retired, too. So, and at the
time when Mike was hired, we used Baker

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Tilly to assist us in in that process.
Um, so I'm going to let Mike introduce

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himself. I just handed out a little bit
of information about Mike, his resume,

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and that sort of thing. But Mike's going
to be kind of our expert in the process.

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So, he will be with me the entire time
we do the the initial application review

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and screening. Um, he will work with the
city on some of the post board

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requirements. post stands for
>> peace officer standard and testing.

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» So he'll make sure that we comply
[clears throat] with that throughout the

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throughout the whole process and then at
the end as we get to the end of the

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process and we're here and um doing our
interviews, Mike will be part of that um

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from the interviews to deliberation as
our expert. I he's could answer a whole

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lot more questions about policing and
what that takes and what those post

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standards require. So, we'll be tag
teaming this along with the the rest of

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our our team at South Central Service
Co-op. But Mike, you want to just kind

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of introduce yourself and Sure. Um,
again, thanks for the opportunity to be

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here. Um, Leonard, I was recently
retired after 30 years in law

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enforcement. Um, 27 of those were with
my last department with City of

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Fairmont. uh nine of those as chief and
seen a lot of changes and we talk about

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changes challenges and opportunities and
that's kind of what you guys are are at

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here and when I started in 2016 as chief
of police first thing off the bat I

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ended up hiring three officers in my
first month. Uh so since then I probably

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hired between full-time officers um
part-time officers civilian staff

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probably close to 25 people during that
time. Uh,

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of course after I retired or my last
year of retirement, they hired a HR

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director to handle all that. So, um, but
I greatly enjoyed that part of my job

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was working with people, working with
the hiring process. Um

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with that seeing some some different
changes in our applicants for patrol

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officer positions and really for us we
saw a difference in the number of

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applicants and that's unfortunately
sometimes corresponding with other

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positions within
uh the profession as well. But a lot of

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it has to do with some things that
happened way before way back um in time.

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If we look at the mid60s when uh the
seven county metro area a lot of these

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agencies and cities started to
incorporate. So during that time they

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are hiring a large amount of new police
officers. So in 1964 1965 you see a lot

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of places with a um
huge increase in hiring for the

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profession. 30 years later, all those
people retiring and we saw our next rush

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of that in about 1995, which is when I
started. And with that, we also saw the

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um I think you remember the term Clinton
cops back in the day. Uh in 1994, Bill

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Clinton signed a bill to put a 100,000
more police officers on on the streets.

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And that was also during this time that
we were seeing this huge turnover in

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that first batch of police officers. So,
um, Fairmont went from we had 15

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officers at the time, we got three of
those positions. So, um, and we've

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retained those since. So, now that same
group along with my group that's

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retired, a lot of people that were hired
during that same time are also retiring.

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So, we're seeing that vacancy
cycle again. Um, and that that really

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affects some of these um, executive
positions as well. Also um you know

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since 2020 we also saw some changes
after co and George Floyd uh police

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reform that was in our state here uh
created a lot of changes in the

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profession and some people chose to
leave the profession. Um saw people

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chose not to go into some of the schools
anymore. So we saw the recruitment

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[clears throat] issue and we've been
addressing that um pretty aggressively

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as a profession and we're seeing that
coming back. So that's great to see.

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We're seeing a lot of good people
getting back into this profession. Um,

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[clears throat] with that um, you know,
we're seeing um, numbers of candidates

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being down, but I, as we talked about
those opportunities, I don't see that as

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a bad thing. Back in the day, we used to
go through everybody's resume where you

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had a checklist where we were looking
for everything else and because we were

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sorting through probably about 40 to 50
applicants for one job in a city the

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size of Fairmont. Um, so we're trying to
get that down to a workable number. Um,

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what I'm finding out and what I like
doing, we just invite everybody in. We

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get to know them as a candidate. We sit
across the table from them. We talk to

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them and we focus more on their
character. What are they going to bring

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to the table? They may not have some
things checked on their resume, but they

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bring some characteristics and traits
we're looking for. And that's kind of

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the um, I guess exciting thing for me in
speaking with Mike and what they look

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for in their process. Um, we're looking
for some of those traits and again

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trades that are going to fit for the
city of Bolivia here. So, um, really

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looking forward to that. Um, and one of
the things, you know, Mike says I'm an

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expert. I'm not an expert. I'm a
resource. I'm a resource for you guys as

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well. So, you have my contact
information.

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» Okay. I'm Mike's expert, but I'm a
resource to you guys. If you have any

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questions on anything during the time,
feel free just get a hold of me. Shoot

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me a text, give me a call, shoot me an
email, whatever works for you. I'm

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always there. Um, I'll be more than
happy to get back to you and talk to you

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about some things. So, but looking
forward to it. So, it's kind of a great

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opportunity for me and yeah, very
pleased to be here. Thank you.

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» So, what what I want to do next then is
talk about our process and I mean we've

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all been through it before, but this is
a little different. So,

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just take one.
This is I'm just kind of going to go

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through our philosophy a little bit. You
you know, our thing is that you're all

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volunteers, you have day jobs,
um you have families, so you don't have

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the time to do the search and the
vetting that that we're going to do. Let

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us do that. Trust us to do the right
thing. And then

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your staff on the other hand,
they have a lot on their plate as well.

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And if they're doing this recruitment,
they're not getting something else done.

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So, I think having a recruiter is
important. Um, we don't leave your staff

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out. They're part of the process, but we
go out and we do the the marketing and

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the advertisement and we'll certainly
work with the city staff, especially on

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a search like this. Do you know of any
individuals in the region that might be

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thinking about looking at this? We can
we can make contact with them. We can

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tell them, hey, here's here's the here's
the position. What kind of questions you

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have? So, we'll include staff. But I
think really, you know, our process is

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we'll bring you hopefully
three or four candidates that all have

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the skill sets to do the job. They might
not have been police chiefs before. They

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might have varying backgrounds, but all
of them have the skill sets to do the

412
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:11,360
job. your job and your city staff's job
because we'll include them in the

413
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:16,799
process like we did last time is to
determine who's the best fit for the

414
00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:21,360
city of Olivia organization and and your
community. That's really what's going to

415
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:25,840
make make the position important. So,
I'm not going to walk through the, you

416
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:31,840
know, Mike and I, we'll figure out a
process to weed out the applications or

417
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:37,519
weed out the applicants and get down to
the process that we're going to begin to

418
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:42,720
identify finalist when we do that. If
you remember, I work with another

419
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:48,880
private consultant that is is also is an
expert in HR as Mike is in law

420
00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:53,279
enforcement and she does a management
leadership assessment and a PXT

421
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:58,799
assessment. Now, the PXT assessment we
purchased. Last time we purchased one

422
00:32:56,159 --> 00:33:03,760
that said what are the the the thinking
style and behavioral traits and interest

423
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:09,679
we need for a city administrator. this
time that company will create that same

424
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:15,200
PXT assessment for the the ne the things
that a a police chief should should

425
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:21,120
bring to to the organization.
And I think the best way to kind of talk

426
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:26,960
about how where Mike's going to fit in
is in is in and a full process. And this

427
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,799
is for um councelor Howard because I
don't think he was part of this last

428
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:40,320
time, but let me just walk through this.
So the 17th of August you you decided to

429
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:45,279
hire us. Um the 2 or
yeah to move forward the 26th you uh I

430
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:51,360
passed out a questionnaire. I got I
think 12 or 13 of those back. They'll be

431
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:57,440
summarized in your position profile and
we'll also use that to help candidates

432
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:03,120
understand what the expectations of the
city are. So we'll do that. So, um,

433
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:08,960
August 26th to the 11th, we'll be
putting together the position profile,

434
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:14,159
developing our our marketing strategy,
um, how we're going to identify people,

435
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:19,839
and and we've decided that I'll let Mike
touch on this if there's questions, but

436
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:26,879
I don't think it's in our best interest
to look nationally. I think we're going

437
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:31,679
to look regionally. Iowa, um, Wisconsin,
maybe a little bit in South Dakota, but

438
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:36,720
but regionally, I think nationally, I
just think sometimes we just run into

439
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:42,399
finding people running from something
maybe. So, we'll we'll keep it we'll

440
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:47,520
keep it regionally. Um, we will market
to

441
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:53,280
all the post places that that they
accept applications for Minnesota police

442
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:57,680
officers, all the standards, league of
Minnesota cities, Iowa League of Cities

443
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:01,520
and so on, ICMA,
um,

444
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:06,560
National Association of Counties, that
sort of thing.

445
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:13,920
So, we've got all that done. We'll begin
advertising on the 11th.

446
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:20,960
um we'll advertise for 30 days. Um the
end of 30 days will take so October 12th

447
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:27,520
to the 30th that's 15 working days and
that seems like a long time but Mike so

448
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:34,079
I can get through our process pretty
quick but post requirements and that

449
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:38,480
that we want to make sure if you were to
get audited you pass all of those. So,

450
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,720
Mike, can you just kind of run through
some of the steps we would do in that

451
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,400
part of the vetting process?
>> Um, nothing more fun than going through

452
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,599
a post audit at your agency and one of
the things they do is they take your

453
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:54,000
background packets and they scrutinize
them. Make sure you hit their five or

454
00:35:51,839 --> 00:36:00,079
six pages of checklist items that you
have to have and uh

455
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:04,960
my agency them every time. So, it's uh
something I'm very proud of, but it's

456
00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:09,040
not a fun process um because they they
hold our licenses and if we're not

457
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:13,599
hitting those marks and we're not hiring
by their standards and making sure that

458
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:18,480
we're checking all those boxes, um we'll
have repercussions. So, with that, um we

459
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,640
have a variety of things that we have to
that post mandates that we have to

460
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:30,640
include in a background check. And it's
a bit of a process um but it's uh it's

461
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:36,160
one that um like I say it gives you a
great insight into who you're looking at

462
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:39,760
as a candidate and if there's any issues
you know everything we it used to be

463
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:45,839
you're doing the criminal background and
all that other stuff. But now it's also

464
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:51,280
including um you know certain marks of
their social media, making sure that

465
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:56,480
they're um out there putting hateful
things out on social media. Um that the

466
00:36:54,079 --> 00:37:02,880
social media is reflective of what you
want in a candidate for your community.

467
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Um also we going we have to um uh focus
in on if they're current law enforcement

468
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:13,440
officer there's free gig requirements.
So basically it has to do with what

469
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:19,359
their reputation and if there's any
impeachable

470
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:23,440
um conduct that their um their county
attorney is aware of that they have to

471
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:29,440
provide to defense council. So we have
to document quite a few different areas.

472
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:34,000
It takes quite a bit of time. Um but
it's done for a reason. Has to be done.

473
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:38,960
Um I love doing and I hate doing it
without saying it's a very exhaustive

474
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:43,119
process. Um, but
what what our I'm looking at doing is

475
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,880
making sure that we have a background
candidate for the candidates that you're

476
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,320
background packet out to the candidates
that you're interested so they can start

477
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:55,599
gathering that information. They have to
go back and provide to the city um their

478
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:59,200
their transcription schools they've
attended, everything along those lines.

479
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,880
So there's there's a lot of things they
also have to bring to the table as well.

480
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:08,079
» Can you explain to the council this
impeachable? So like basically if if

481
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:14,079
they have any dis stuff on their
records, it has to do with so Brady

482
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:19,760
Gigglio is um is reference to basically
if the law enforcement officer has shown

483
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:23,119
a pattern of being dishonest, their
testimony in court does not carry the

484
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:28,560
same weight as an officer that's not on
a gigio list. So you look at some of the

485
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:32,480
larger departments, um at one point my
understanding was Minneapolis when they

486
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:38,880
were full staff had about 100 officers
on that. um

487
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:44,240
it just doesn't work well. You can't
have um but you can't ignore it either.

488
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:48,240
So that's where it's just you have to
make sure that we're checking those

489
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:54,400
marks. So basically if the person has a
history of um

490
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:58,880
uh disciplinary actions of abuse of
power if there's a whole variety of

491
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:03,280
things that could factor into that. So
basically when our officers go to

492
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:09,520
testify, I provide any disciplinary
stuff, any um concerns to the

493
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:14,000
prosecuting attorney who then turns that
over to the uh defense attorney. So it

494
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,359
has to do with their credibility as wife
to the

495
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:22,320
» Thank you for that.
>> Yep.

496
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:26,079
» Yep. Absolutely. So um any other
questions about kind of the whole thing?

497
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,480
It basically there's you know we've
talked about some things that we'll also

498
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,920
need to have um from the city on that
and uh again at the end of the day you

499
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:41,040
guys retain it all and when post comes
and call it you can end of that and um

500
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:46,400
just let them go through it. But yeah
it's a it's a a very in-depth look into

501
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,079
the candidates's life to make sure that
they're going to be a good fit for your

502
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,200
community and good for your department
but it's checking a lot of boxes for the

503
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,359
state. So we're so basically we're doing
the same thing we did last time, but

504
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:05,440
Mike's ensuring that we're we're getting
the things done that the state requires.

505
00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:11,040
Um there's more. So we'll do that for
the candidates that we want to once you

506
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:16,560
decide here's we'll say here's the
three. Yes, I want to interview those.

507
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:20,880
Then we'll do some additional background
and and that and then there will be some

508
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:25,359
final background that will be done even
after you make your final decision on

509
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:28,880
that individual. Correct.
>> Um yeah, you talk about the formal or

510
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:32,880
conditional job offers.
>> Yeah, basically the conditional job

511
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:38,640
offer um points you're required to send
to a psych medical um that part of that

512
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:43,280
and retain that information. But um
yeah, that would be I mean for the

513
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:46,480
candidate that jumps out that you guys
want to go after, that would be

514
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:52,079
something to set up at that point. Um
the background's good for 6 months, the

515
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:55,760
psychological is good for uh 12 months
during that time. So,

516
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,800
» oh, so the first part that you were
talking about, you're going to do that

517
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,520
to everybody that applies to see if they
should even move forward.

518
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:06,880
» Going to start with that vetting
process. get through our vetting before

519
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,560
we take anybody through the through the
next step of the

520
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:14,880
» So basically when when you as a council
say we really like this candidate then

521
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:19,280
we're going to look at I'm going to give
them the back so

522
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:23,200
presented they'll have the background
pack that they can start on because it

523
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:27,920
takes so while it's about
>> 60 pages of stuff they have to put

524
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,079
together um where they've lived every
county they've lived in I mean we go and

525
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:37,839
look for police contacts and every place
they've lived. Um, so it's very

526
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,800
intensive, but it's also intensive for
the candidates have a lot together and

527
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:48,400
put together. So, um, basically got the
first part is Mike vetting them just as

528
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:51,920
a a candidate. Um, and my part is when
you guys find the candidate, you're

529
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,560
like, this is the one we want to move
forward with. Um, they'll hand me that

530
00:41:54,560 --> 00:42:01,599
packet and I'll just get that stuff
rolling so you have that information as

531
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:04,640
quick as we can. And I just write I mean
to the point now that's a lot more in

532
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:09,920
depth than yeah
>> I hired the city administrator and so

533
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:17,760
that'll you know set up the interviews
hope hopefully our date is November 2nd

534
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:24,319
for interviews um November 16th and 17th
that part of the process will be a lot

535
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:30,000
the same. I um I think it's important
for the candidates to meet with city

536
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:36,319
staff. Um, I think it's important that
that Elizabeth talk to them and outline

537
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:42,480
expectations and that sort of thing. And
you know, if you want with that

538
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:48,079
candidate and I've done when city hired
Mike, we had a a meet and greet as you

539
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,760
know, so the community can meet them. We
did that last time your city

540
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:56,800
administrator. So, a lot of that will be
the same. the the two the day and a half

541
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:02,640
structure will be the same, but all of
the stuff behind the scenes is going to

542
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:07,760
be much more. Mike's here to do that for
us. Um,

543
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:14,400
you know, I think and I think you went
over that medical. Yeah. So yeah, it

544
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:20,800
seems like a long process and you know
if we get to it and we don't think one

545
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:26,720
of the things I'll be doing um in that
time period as the applications come in

546
00:43:23,359 --> 00:43:32,560
I'll send Elizabeth a week you know
every seven to 10 days kind of how many

547
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:37,920
applicants applications we we received
I'll give you a brief summary of those

548
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:42,640
no names no nothing like that but just
their educational background around, you

549
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:49,520
know, years of service, that sort of
thing. So, you're getting an update. And

550
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:55,920
if we get to um
October 12th and we don't think there's

551
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,400
candidates we want to where I'm not
going to bring you bodies. I'm going to

552
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:06,000
bring you qualified candidates. I'll
I'll you'll know that and we'll talk to

553
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:12,240
Elizabeth and we'll just kind of sit
back, visit a little bit, regroup and

554
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:17,599
and extend it. But I'm I'm hopeful. I
you know, I think you're in a good area

555
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:23,440
with some larger cities around you where
there's sergeants in different levels of

556
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:28,000
of officers in the area that may or may
not be interested. But um you know and

557
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:32,560
there's a lot of that um and Mike said
this earlier there's a lot of folks out

558
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:35,680
there that are saying you know still
want to be in law enforcement but I

559
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:42,960
don't know if I need to be in a major
metropolitan city and you know maybe in

560
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:48,720
maybe it's some of those folks that are
10 15 years into their career and

561
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:54,000
they've had a lot of good and bad
experiences that you know they're just

562
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:58,400
ready to wind things down and not that
They're not going to be prepared for

563
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:02,400
anything that happens, but it's not
hundreds of calls and just the the

564
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,680
mental
>> things they go through. So,

565
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,520
» everything happens just not as
frequently,

566
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:11,280
» right?
>> I think that's probably very true, too.

567
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,960
» And like I say, very remarkable
community. I mean, it's it's a lot of

568
00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:19,440
positive things that you have here for
somebody that's looking to not be in the

569
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,680
metro. And there's law enforcement
outside of the metro. I keep trying to

570
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:28,079
tell people that [clears throat] but a
lot of positivity. I grew up in St. Paul

571
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:35,119
and first thing I did was move out of
the area. Uh it really enjoyed being in

572
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:40,319
the metro and um one of my daughters
just moved back to Minneapolis. So um

573
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:46,000
she's going to school there and I've
been trying to get her to come back to

574
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:50,400
Fairmont but um mother daughter
was about a mile from me in Fairmont so

575
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,480
she'll never leave. So yeah, one of
them,

576
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:58,400
» you know, and one of the things I
recall, you know, um we had a number of

577
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:04,160
officers from from the metro and you
know, they they bring great experience

578
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:08,716
and that sort of thing and it they seem
to work out well. So we'll do our best

579
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,520
to target those kind of folks and
[clears throat]

580
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:15,760
questions for us.
>> I do want to address something you

581
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,839
mentioned earlier when you kind of just
started with the intro, Mike. I do

582
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:24,560
appreciate that, you know, you're going
to be kind of taking some workload off

583
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:28,960
of our staff here, but I just want to
let you know the reason why we hired you

584
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:35,040
guys is because of the results you
provide. in both the um executive

585
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:40,640
searches that I've been involved with
with your company, I

586
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:45,680
this is strange to say it in front of
Elizabeth, but I am absolutely uh

587
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,599
incredibly impressed by the level of
candidates that you bring to the table.

588
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:53,920
That is why we hired you. Well, I I
appreciate that, but I think those

589
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:59,119
candidates were in both were looking at
your community and where they wanted to

590
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:04,760
be next in their career, and sometimes
you just get lucky,

591
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,760
» too. [laughter] There's times

592
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:12,160
a charm. Great.
I I I do I do appreciate it, but if you

593
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:18,480
have any qu you know, I do think it's
important to take the the the load off

594
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:24,160
the city staffs and and herb for
majority of it, but keeping the staff

595
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:27,760
and you involved is is important. I have
a friend of mine that's the city

596
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:34,000
administrator in Jainsville, Clinton
Rogers, and I was talking to him, you

597
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:39,599
know, they they are finally after two
years, they did the search internally or

598
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:44,800
by themselves, he and the council and
and they're they are bringing a

599
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:51,920
candidate finally to um the interview
process, but it's it's a lot. he didn't

600
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:56,319
quite understand all of this and some of
the challenges with the with the market

601
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,760
out there right now and Mike understands
the market and talking to those folks

602
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:05,920
daily. So
>> well and knowing how to word it and

603
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:10,400
knowing what an officer I mean that's so
smart on your end to have

604
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,640
» you know a different
>> Yeah. Yeah. We don't know like we're

605
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:18,560
just like hey job money here you go. I
mean, obviously Elizabeth would do way

606
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:26,240
better than I would do as posting at a
job, but um but that knowledge to add

607
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:31,359
that on there and your timeline always
seems to be on point like, "Yep, we're

608
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:34,640
here. We're here. We're we're not like,
"Oh, we're behind." You know what I

609
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:40,000
mean? It's always been nice to know that
this is a timeline and this is actually

610
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:46,160
the timeline that we're going with.
Well, let's let's

611
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:50,559
be confident that on the 16th and 17th
we at least have two to three people to

612
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:55,760
look at.
>> Love it.

613
00:48:52,480 --> 00:49:00,800
Any questions, R for Mike and Mike?
>> I think you know everybody knows how to

614
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:05,359
get a hold of me. You have Mike's resume
with his contact information. We both

615
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:11,920
bring a fair amount of folk from our
homes. My travel a lot, but

616
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,400
Yeah. And it's good to be back in
Olivia. I told Mike it's been a year or

617
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:21,760
two since I've been here and it has
been, you know, over three. So I city

618
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,200
hall looks beautiful.
>> Yeah, absolutely.

619
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,160
» Thank you.
>> Well, we appreciate you guys coming

620
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:32,800
down. We appreciate you guys uh helping
us out through this very important task

621
00:49:30,319 --> 00:49:37,400
and and we look forward to uh the
process.

622
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,400
» Thank you much.

623
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,160
Enjoy your evening.

624
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:49,200
» Good to see you. Thank you.
>> Thank you both.

625
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:55,599
» Thank you. One thing that I do want to
put before I leave. Um September is

626
00:49:52,240 --> 00:50:00,079
prostate cancer awareness month. Next
month will be six years for me. Cancer

627
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:05,440
three. It was a blood test that
established my baseline. ESA blood test.

628
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,240
You are not too young. We're getting
guys, especially those that are

629
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:13,920
deployed. We're getting guys that are
coming in and testing positive for this

630
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:17,520
at 25 and 27 years old. So, get the
blood test. It's not the dreaded digit

631
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:21,040
test anymore.
>> I suppose you want that, but I'll

632
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,200
request it. But
>> no, no, God for me.

633
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:28,240
» Thank you,
brother.

634
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:32,400
» Thank you all. There you go.
>> All right, we're moving down to the

635
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:39,040
first reading of ordinance 13, which is
repealing and replacing chapter 93 on

636
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:42,319
animals of the city code of the city of
Olivia, Minnesota.

637
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:48,480
» Yeah. So, no action tonight. Just wanted
to share this with you. Um, initially

638
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:53,599
when we were proposing revisions to the
current code, um, myself, um, Chief

639
00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:58,400
Crumbhower worked with our city
attorney's office. they decided it

640
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:02,880
became too unwieldy
to try and iron out kind of the

641
00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:08,559
inconsistencies in the existing code and
then harmonizing it with applicable

642
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:14,240
provisions of state law. So they started
over from a Minnesota basic code of

643
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:19,440
ordinances template and then they made
edits to more closely reflect what

644
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Olivia's current code were appropriate
align um to help us create this new city

645
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:29,839
code. It really where we were really
struggling with our previous animal code

646
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:35,520
was particularly along the designations
of potentially dangerous and dangerous

647
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:39,680
animals and the inconsistencies there as
well as the inconsistencies against

648
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:46,400
state law. So this cleans it up
immensely. Um Pam and her team um did a

649
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,520
great job working on this. I don't know
Pam if you have any other comments you

650
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:55,040
want to present.
Um, I just would point out that um

651
00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:01,520
there's also a provision that was that
we included related to um not allowing

652
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:07,040
feeding of stray cats.
Um so I know that that's been a concern

653
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:12,880
as well in the city.
Uh so that was a provision that we

654
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:18,880
included. And um just emphasizing
Elizabeth's comments uh that the former

655
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:23,920
code was out uh was not consistent with
state law with respect to um dangerous

656
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:30,160
and potentially dangerous dogs and their
designations. So,

657
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:35,200
» so you can hear see here um I know it's
been brought to my attention pretty

658
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:41,040
quickly since I moved here about stray
cats mainly not a lot of stray dogs but

659
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:46,319
the concern is people feeding stray cats
which keep them to stay and hang around.

660
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:50,160
So we did address that here.
>> Anything addresses uh feeding wild

661
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:57,280
animals or is that going to cover it
too? Uh Pam, anything that particularly

662
00:52:53,119 --> 00:53:02,559
addresses feeding wild animals?
>> Not that I recall.

663
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:06,319
» Not not in this um
>> not not as written. Um we didn't know

664
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:12,240
that that was something that was going
on or that was a concern. So we can

665
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:15,359
certainly take a look at
>> I don't know. What do you guys think? I

666
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:21,920
I have a neighbor that I know I have to
feed other animals.

667
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:24,880
Not that it's ever bothered me, but
>> I mean we can certainly offer an

668
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,960
amendment during the second reading.
Correct. Pam,

669
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:30,480
» are we calling
>> that will give us I would like to get a

670
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,319
better idea of what's going on and just
to take a look at it. I mean it could

671
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:39,920
possibly be that that's something more
of a nuisance than under the ant. But um

672
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,599
we certainly because we have definitions
of domestic and non-domemesticated

673
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,839
animals. So I just would like to get a
better understanding.

674
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:52,160
» Sure. um
of what's happening and where it would

675
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,520
best be addressed.
>> Let us look into that.

676
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,880
» Okay,
>> good suggestion.

677
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,440
» Whether it is addressed in this
ordinance or if there's a different

678
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,960
ordinance.
>> I just thought I'd bring it.

679
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:07,582
» Yeah, thank you.
>> Feed the black and white stripe and

680
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:07,582
can't see it. [laughter]

681
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:15,160
» The white stripe going down the middle.
Okay. Uh any other questions?

682
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Thank you on that.

683
00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:28,800
» All right, we'll move on to staff
reports.

684
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:34,960
» Sure. So, a couple of different reports
were included in your packet. Um, one

685
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:40,160
was done, well, two actually were done
by our intern about uh, we had a lot of

686
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,359
questions during the airport work
session about the hanger fees and where

687
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:50,319
we were at. Uh, we're actually pretty in
the market for hanger fees. Um, to be

688
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:56,400
quite honest with you, where we could
use an update would be our large hanger

689
00:54:53,839 --> 00:55:02,240
rental fees. Um, those are on a
different lease timeline than the tea

690
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:06,559
hangers. So, both myself and Sean have
calendar reminders for the spring to

691
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:12,240
re-examine that to provide ample notice
in the contract for that rent to

692
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:17,040
possibly increase it a little bit. Um,
but it was great. It was great work done

693
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:21,760
by Owen. He let me know he learned a lot
about airports. Uh, he was cold calling

694
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,119
a lot of cities for this information and
quite a few cities asked to see the

695
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,160
report after he was done. So, he also
got to share out the information which

696
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:32,720
was great.
Um, so that's in the airport.

697
00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:33,839
» Can I go jump back to the cat dog
feeding thing?

698
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,440
» Okay.
>> What if somebody says they're their

699
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:44,160
cats? Do we have something about not
having 19 loose cats around your house?

700
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,119
» Are we addressing I'm sorry. I just I
just want to make it as clear as

701
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,160
possible for whoever is trying to
>> It's a hot button for the community.

702
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,920
It's good to square this away.
>> You know what I mean? Just have it if

703
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:59,440
somebody's like, "Oh, these aren't stray
cats. They're mine. All 19 of them.

704
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:04,559
Pam, do you recall if we have a limit
number

705
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:09,599
» or if they can be out and about? Can you
have your cats out around?

706
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:13,440
» So, technically we do have a ordinance
against dogs and cats running at large.

707
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:17,839
So, right here on the screen running at
large.

708
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:22,400
» Um, so it's unlawful for any person who
harbors or keeps a dog and cat to

709
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:27,040
prevail to they can't run at large. They
have to be on a leash or they have to be

710
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:30,799
under the control and direction of a
person to be effectively restrained by

711
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,960
command as leash. So if you have a dog
who's trained within a ventur's life,

712
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:40,000
you say here and it comes here.
>> That that applies as well. So you can't

713
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:43,440
just have
19 cats running at large and

714
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,680
» around the neighborhood
>> around the neighborhood and say they're

715
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:50,240
yours.
>> Okay? Because that would be against our

716
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,520
» Does that get you out of getting into
trouble for feeding out? because

717
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,160
» because they would be at large which is
prohibited.

718
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,680
» Does that address that concern?
>> Yes. Okay.

719
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:04,799
» Yeah. Thank you.
>> And I would say that there's also some

720
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:13,359
um provisions with nuisances about um
that type of you know um

721
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:19,440
ownership or or statements claims.
You know, would this mindset kind of

722
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:24,400
just logically lead some lead anyone to
interpret that the outdoor feeding of an

723
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,799
unleashed animal is completely
prohibited?

724
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:29,599
» You would think so, but it doesn't.
>> I mean, well, this is a new I mean, this

725
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:31,760
is new.
>> Yeah,

726
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:35,280
» but I mean, wouldn't that be wouldn't
that be a logical interpretation of all

727
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,359
this?
I

728
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:42,079
» think you get it there. Yeah. That
essentially don't put any type of animal

729
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:46,954
food outside. Actually, that's such a
good point. What if somebody has one cat

730
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,040
and says they're only feeding their cat,
[clears throat] but

731
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:54,240
» their leash cat,
>> their leashed cat outside, but other

732
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:57,680
cats are stealing the food or the dog.
>> Again, I think the city's recommendation

733
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:01,599
would be to bring in I mean, it's a lot
of whatifs. You can't you can't, you

734
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:06,000
know, do your code on every single what
if, but I think then the the

735
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:08,880
recommendation to the city would be move
that feed bowl inside.

736
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:12,640
» Okay.
>> Right. So, if we have somebody who's who

737
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,480
has an issue with it and says, "Well, I
like to feed my dog outside." There are

738
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,920
a couple ways. One, do you have an
enclosure for your animal outside?

739
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:24,079
Right? Like in our code, you can have a
dog pen. Well, that's completely fenced

740
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:28,960
in, especially from the top. That's not
as big of a concern. That's not an open

741
00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:33,200
food bowl if it's in a secure kennel.
But otherwise, if you have an open food

742
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,720
bowl and you have all these 19 cats and
you're saying, "Well, my food bowl is

743
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:41,520
only for my one." Then we have a
conversation. Let's move your food bowl

744
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:44,559
inside. Water bowl, great, but food
bowl, let's move inside.

745
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,799
» Okay,
>> good questions.

746
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:57,359
» Yeah, I think this will be helpful.
Anyway, any other uh staff reports?

747
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,599
» Yes, we also have um Owen also put
together a staff report for the

748
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:06,799
community center and the usage this
summer. And so you can read about it in

749
00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:11,920
the packet, but just a couple of overall
um I wanted to give you some comparison

750
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:18,000
numbers for last year as well. So total
in 2026, we had 478 people visit the

751
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:25,599
community center this summer around the
end of May to the end of August. 222 of

752
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:29,440
those were open gym, 256 were corn. So
you can really see how cornland has

753
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:34,960
become a good attraction for our
community. If you compare this number

754
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:40,960
with last year 2025, we had 94 visitors.
So really picked up um our visitors

755
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:46,160
unique visitors in 2026 we had 105
unique visitors and 373 repeat visitors

756
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:53,040
which is great. It shows people are
coming back. Um last year we had 44

757
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:58,319
unique visitors and 50 repeat visitors.
Um this year we had 133 punch card uses.

758
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,839
So people are really utilizing those
punch cards when they're coming to visit

759
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:07,520
the community center. Last year we only
had 11. Um open gym visitors were most

760
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:11,280
engaged with program activities. You may
recall this year we um offered a couple

761
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:17,280
more structured activities throughout
the day. Those were most popular from

762
01:00:13,839 --> 01:00:21,040
late May to mid July. Um after that a
lot of the visitors were returning and

763
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:26,160
so they had done a lot of the activities
already. So Owen pivoted and planned

764
01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:30,799
activities towards his repeat visitors
that would keep them engaged. Um most of

765
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:36,319
the unique visitors were just May and
June, not July or August. Wednesday was

766
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,880
the least busy day of the week, which I
found was interesting. In the middle of

767
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:43,680
the week, it was least busy for both
Cornland and Open Gym. Open Gym and

768
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:47,119
Cornland had nearly identical statistics
and attendance except for Fridays where

769
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:51,760
Cornland had nearly twice the
attendance. I attribute that to a lot of

770
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:58,000
our um community daycarees would visit
on Fridays. Um nearly all open gym

771
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:02,720
visitors were in the 6 to 18 age range.
Slime making was the most popular

772
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:09,520
scheduled activity. Um and average
arrival time was 10:09 a.m. and exit

773
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:14,400
time was 11:43 a.m. So we really focused
on those morning hours.

774
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,440
So that's we have for the summer
community report. What other reports

775
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:25,280
could you possibly have for us today?
>> Um, I have S&P global ratings to share

776
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:31,920
with you all that we are rated at an A+
which is very exciting. Um, and then we

777
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:39,599
also included the pool report as well.
Um, and those are kind of the main

778
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:45,119
things that we have to report out on.
>> Any reports from council?

779
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:52,319
just that we had the pool board meeting
and we were discussing the Orca's

780
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:57,200
contract and the increase that we were
going to do there and then we had the

781
01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:02,720
sand filter replacement discussion but
we had we tabled that discussion.

782
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,799
Um,
and then just Tracy went over some of

783
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:13,799
the stuff that she was going to do for
the fall to get people into the pool.

784
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:26,480
» Yeah, it was just focused on the
property. Um, we didn't have a park.

785
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:33,440
and um planning and zoning is focused on
on the 212 beef and hog property there

786
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,760
that we just talked about. So
>> there

787
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,559
» and PUC meets tomorrow
>> and I'll be at that meeting tomorrow for

788
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:41,440
» right
>> alternate format. [clears throat]

789
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:44,720
Is it going to be fun?
>> A fun

790
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:49,200
» we'll be we'll be reviewing at PUC to
give you a sneak peek. We'll be

791
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:54,280
reviewing the MMPA contract as well as
the suggested rates for 2027.

792
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,720
» Sounds like a lot of fun.
>> Yeah, that's going to be fun.

793
01:02:59,359 --> 01:03:02,960
» I'll see you there.
>> Negotiating the last one.

794
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:06,240
» Yeah.
>> Do we have any

795
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,200
» The final The final decision is
tomorrow, is it?

796
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:15,839
» No, it's your recommendation.
>> Do we have any notices or communications

797
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:20,000
to talk about? Ridfest this Saturday. If
you haven't gotten your tickets yet,

798
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:24,079
please reach out to Kevin at the Olivia
Fire Department for tickets. $25 per

799
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:27,280
person
>> and

800
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:31,440
they sell them there. If they're not
sold out,

801
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:36,319
» just so you know, everybody here and
listening is required to vote for the

802
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:42,640
Olivia favor.
>> I do. Um, also we're looking for a new

803
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:46,799
chamber. Yes. John, do you want to talk
about that?

804
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:51,280
» Yeah. So, we uh the chamber board has
accepted the resignation of the former

805
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:58,079
director, McKenzie, and we are now
actively uh searching for a uh a new uh

806
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:02,079
chamber director. It's a part-time
position, roughly 20 hours a week. You

807
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:07,760
have any interest in it, feel free to
reach out to me. I'll get you uh some

808
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:10,960
application materials and we will go
through that process. Thank you for

809
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:16,240
bringing that up.
It's important. It's an important role

810
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:23,280
in our community. Um, it's a halftime
role. So, uh, you know, that that comes

811
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:27,520
in in that comes with its limitations is
from a recruiting aspect. But, um, there

812
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:33,440
are some there have been some really
great community-minded halftime uh, EDA

813
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:37,760
direct uh, chamber directors out there
in the past and uh, hopefully we can

814
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:42,319
find another one to keep the chamber
moving forward strong. So,

815
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:48,240
» and we are planning on this year's trunk
or treat event with outdoor fall themed

816
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,119
movie for Saturday, October 10th.
>> It's a movie.

817
01:04:49,599 --> 01:04:58,680
» Halloween Town.
>> Oh, I think that's a uh

818
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:58,680
» it's like a Disney Channel originality.

819
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:04,400
» It's a good one.
>> Wonderful.

820
01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:08,000
» I asked kids this year. I said, "What
movies do you usually watch for

821
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:12,319
Halloween?" And that was immediate
response. fantastic like Friday the

822
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:16,280
13th.
>> Here's the problem. I'm [laughter] a

823
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,280
wuss.

824
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:24,559
» It's not 1987. We can't raise our kids
like that.

825
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:27,280
» If you watch Until Dawn,
>> no, that's scary.

826
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,240
» Watch Until Dawn.
>> You picked the wrong person to host a

827
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,359
horror movie like this. Just letting you
know.

828
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:38,160
» No, no other business on the agenda.
I'll call for a motion to adjurnn.

829
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:42,240
» So, second. Motion's been made by Ever,
seconded by Ferguson to adjurnn. Any

830
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,680
other discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor say I.

831
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,240
» I.
>> Any opposed?

832
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:50,720
» Well, thank you everybody. We're
>> journal.

833
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,720
Thanks, ma'am.