[0:01] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America [clears throat]
[0:06] and to the republic for which it stands.
One nation under God, indivisible, with
[0:12] liberty and justice for all.
>> Thank you everybody. We'll do a quick
[0:16] roll call here to determine the quorum.
Bobby Gardner is absent. Evers here.
[0:20] Ferguson's absent. I'm here. Howard, we
do have a forum. We'll call the meeting
[0:24] to order here. Uh the first uh part of
our meeting is the public forum portion.
[0:30] Um if uh the public wants to address
council on any items that aren't on the
[0:35] agenda, this is a time uh the public can
do so. We ask that uh um that you state
[0:43] your name for the meeting record.
Speaking times are generally limited to
[0:47] three minutes. Uh if there's like
unfinished business after those three
[0:51] minutes are done, we'll either direct
staff take take some action or we will
[0:57] add the item into a discussion item uh
for the council to consider later on in
[1:03] the agenda. So if there's anybody here
from the public who wishes to address
[1:07] council, now's the time. I think these
other guys are on the agenda. Yeah.
[1:12] » Could you come to the table right here?
This allows us to record better meeting
[1:18] and all that.
>> I'm Bob Elbert. Hi Bob.
[1:23] » I'm here on behalf of my neighbors. The
the south side of us lives on the other
[1:30] side of it. The letter I got here is the
map is wrong. The map's right, but the
[1:38] 605 on the 601.
Todd lives across the street or almost
[1:44] Miami.
>> Sure.
[1:46] » And there was maybe other meetings. I
should have come here before this
[1:49] because there was ongoing issues with
our neighbor.
[1:53] » Okay.
>> It's more his house keeping. I mean,
[1:56] he's had tires outside.
>> Sure.
[1:58] » You spray for mosquitoes and stuff which
bring the mosquitoes and tires and now
[2:05] you guys allowed him to put a fence up
which was right. But I and so far he's
[2:09] done a good job on the fence and I
created him for that. He's three feet
[2:13] right there and now he come up with the
deal that he can put a fence right on my
[2:17] line in front by the driveway.
>> Sure.
[2:21] » Well, all the all his stuff there. Two
years ago he dug out his his slope was
[2:28] like this. So he dug it out. End up with
a retaining m Well, that never finished.
[2:32] So that brings mosquitoes and flies.
Whatever. Gory sprays puts fertilizer
[2:37] on. We hire someone to do spraying
fertilizer and ours are clean. His
[2:43] dandelions, the only time they get it is
when he takes the clipper over them,
[2:47] which they can spread really easy.
And now I I come in here and I talk to I
[2:54] can't remember the name, but now you
you're going to allow him to put the
[2:59] more of a fence
on right on the concrete right there
[3:03] where he's got maybe this far, maybe a
foot to go for my line exactly on my
[3:10] line.
And uh then the way I see here, he's
[3:15] going to put a gate there. But what
we're doing and you're doing it, you're
[3:20] allowing him to enclosed his whole work
so he can put his couple lawnmowers that
[3:26] don't run a snowmobile maybe back there.
All his tires went back outside after he
[3:32] got a ticket from the police or
something. So that's it's you're
[3:37] allowing him just to hide everything.
That's what And if this goes through,
[3:41] I'm okay with it, but I I would
appreciate it if he would to come over
[3:44] and talk to me before he just starts
digging holes in there.
[3:47] » Sure.
>> I mean, they seem like a nice couple or
[3:50] they're not married.
>> Yeah.
[3:53] » And I guess I mean I got to go with it
if that's the policy you got if they can
[3:58] go right on the line. But he was 3 feet
back here which matched up to his
[4:02] garage. He did a nice job on his fence.
It didn't look bad. But you still got
[4:07] the all the clutter back there. His
housekeeping isn't good, you know.
[4:11] » Yeah.
>> I mean, and and
[4:16] I mean there were there's I got there
the front yard looks bad and all the
[4:22] cars and I can't say if they got tabs on
or up to date. Police been over there a
[4:26] few times about this issue.
And I I guess if you got more questions,
[4:31] you can ask my neighbor Todd.
>> Sure.
[4:34] Yeah, he's Todd's been pretty hopeful
about it here in the past.
[4:37] » I guess that's all I got to say. I mean,
I can't do nothing if you're going to
[4:40] allow him to do that. It's just it looks
good now the way he's got, but you can't
[4:45] » hide. You're just hiding stuff. That's
what we're allowing them to do.
[4:51] And uh it's what he hides is stuff that
don't work. Don't you don't use their
[4:55] stuff.
>> Sure.
[4:59] » I guess that's all I got to say what we
can do with it. And from there, I know I
[5:03] got the letter here and stuff and
I tried to keep it down to 30 minutes. I
[5:08] talked to you today.
>> You did. [laughter]
[5:12] » So, any questions or anything for Bob?
[5:18] » Our our ordinance states that a fence
can go on the property line.
[5:23] » That's that's what you're allowing them
to just hide all this whatever he's got.
[5:29] There's been there's one right up in his
driveway that's been sitting there a
[5:34] year. There's a old car. It's sitting
over on the other side in between the
[5:38] house and his garage. That's been
sitting there
[5:42] and he's he sells vehicles out of there.
He works on vehicles. He sells them.
[5:47] Does mechanical work. Sure. But I don't
know if he's got a license with the
[5:53] state or not, but that's up to someone
else's answer.
[5:59] Um, as far as these other nuisances,
those are are being um
[6:05] » they're going through our nuisance
process
[6:07] » being served here.
>> Yep. And we've worked with our city
[6:10] attorney's office and our city
prosecutor office for these issues,
[6:14] particularly with the car issues.
>> Um, and as Mr. Albert stated about the
[6:19] tires, when when receiving a notice
about the tires, the tires did disappear
[6:25] from there. They went in his garage,
then they went back home after the fence
[6:29] was up cuz he told me it's worth the
tigers.
[6:33] » We still, regardless if you have a fence
or not, our nuisances policies still
[6:38] apply. Um, so we we still if there are
ongoing issues, will work and follow and
[6:45] continue to follow the process. Yeah,
that's the only that's the only thing
[6:49] that I was going to offer up to the
council if we we were going to have any
[6:53] consideration or discussion here is if
there's if we're still able to enforce
[6:57] nuisances as we typically are uh if
there's a fence up and then that it
[7:02] sounds like that that is the case. Looks
like Pam's gonna ready to chime in here.
[7:08] You're muted though.
>> Oh, I was just I was just coming on
[7:12] camera in case I got a question. Oh, so
um
[7:17] » but I agree with Elizabeth that you know
your nuisance um ordinances still apply
[7:23] and so you'd have to look at the
pictures and from whether you know those
[7:29] are inoperable vehicles.
Um outdoor storage that isn't allowed
[7:34] there. I'd have to I was just trying to
pull up the ordinance on outdoor
[7:38] storage. So um we would could take a
look at those types of things.
[7:44] Pam is our city attorney. She's the one
that's helping us enforce these
[7:48] businesses here.
>> You talk to them. They seem real nice to
[7:50] me.
>> Sure.
[7:51] » They got three kids there. Two there and
one up and up.
[7:56] » We'll uh you know, we'll do everything
that's that's written in our our code to
[8:01] keep up with the nuisances there. Right
now we're we're going through these
[8:06] processes. We have the courts involved
on them as well. and uh you know we
[8:11] » but I think he's been pulled in 12 times
within a year.
[8:15] » Sure.
>> So there's bigger problem than what I'm
[8:18] saying probably.
>> Um so uh with with knowing that we can
[8:23] still enforce nuisances. Um
I I'm not sure if there's there's
[8:31] anything the council can legally do at
this point to stop him from putting that
[8:36] fence up.
Well, and the the important thing is
[8:39] that you're coming in to let us know
about the nuisances because when the
[8:43] fence goes up, we might not see it, but
you'll still see the the increase in the
[8:49] mosquitoes and the flies and all the
other critters in the area that are
[8:54] going to be bothering you as neighbors.
And
[8:56] » you tighten it up, but it's still
>> Well, it causes what it causes. You
[9:01] know, those water pools are there and
you know, so that Yeah. So we might not
[9:07] see it with the fence, but you are still
being affected by it and you see it. So
[9:12] this is Yeah,
>> this is about two weeks ago. He was
[9:15] hauling lumber in. They say he's fixing
up the basement. He said next year I
[9:19] might be able to sell the place. I told
Barb, I said maybe I should go back and
[9:23] tell him to fix the back yard up first,
but he I don't think she did.
[9:29] » Anyway,
>> we appreciate we we appreciate you
[9:32] coming.
>> Okay, that's all I got to say.
[9:34] » Thank you. Thanks for listening.
>> Any uh any other members of the
[9:37] community here to address council?
>> You're good.
[9:42] » Okay. Thanks.
>> Thank you guys.
[9:44] » Thank you.
>> All right. We'll close down the public
[9:46] forum portion of the meeting and move
down to the setting of the agenda here.
[9:50] » Um
if there's anything from the consent
[9:54] agenda you all moved into discussion
items, now's a good time to bring it up.
[9:58] There's any other business to bring up,
you know, now's good time to add it to
[10:02] discussion items.
Otherwise, I'll call for a motion to
[10:06] approve tonight's agenda.
>> Second.
[10:10] » Motion's been made by Evers, seconded by
Ferguson to approve the agenda. Any
[10:14] other discussion?
>> Hearing none, all in favor say I.
[10:18] » I.
>> Any opposed. All right. Agenda is set as
[10:22] written. We'll move down to the consent
agenda. It includes the meeting minutes
[10:26] from August 17, a staff movement for
Jodie Gilbert's uh designating the city
[10:32] administrator to serve as acting city
clerk during extended leave. uh
[10:38] approving the transition to Microsoft
365GCC,
[10:44] declaring a slum and blighted area,
accepting a quote from AM Electric for
[10:49] electrical department equipment
purchase, and then our August
[10:52] dispersements.
Call for a motion to approve tonight's
[10:55] consent agenda. So move
>> second.
[10:58] » Motion's been made by Ferguson, seconded
by Howard to approve the consent agenda
[11:01] as written. Any other discussion?
Hearing none, all in favor say I. I.
[11:06] » Any opposed? Consent agenda is approved
as written. Moving down to the
[11:10] discussion items. What we have in front
of us is the process for a public
[11:14] hearing to consider the vacation of
certain open space easements. The
[11:18] process for this is receive some staff
reports, then receive public comment,
[11:23] and then to close close the public
hearing and take any action. So, at this
[11:28] point, we'll gladly take some staff
reports.
[11:32] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, so this is a
vacation of a open st of the open space
[11:39] ement. Um, I think you've heard me talk
about this a couple of different times.
[11:44] Um, vacating or also known as kind of
removing the open space easement. It
[11:49] that's on currently several properties
in the area. It's created a lot of
[11:53] confusion over what this open space
easement is. Um what we have determined
[11:58] with this open space easement is it
prohibits development on the area of the
[12:03] easement. Um which we are have currently
secured utility easements on a lot of
[12:08] that which means you can't build on a
utility easement anyway. Nothing about
[12:13] the actual property will change. Nobody
will see a change. It will not be used
[12:19] in any different way. This is something
we need to do legally. Um there from the
[12:25] legal perspective, we had our lawyers
take a look at it. We believe the open
[12:29] space easement could have already been
extinguished when the properties all
[12:33] fell under common ownership. But it was
acknowledged that it was a very messy
[12:39] situation and going through the formal
vacation process for this open space
[12:43] easement was the cleanest solution
moving forward. We have had discussions
[12:47] with the hospital as well because we are
currently in discussions with the
[12:51] hospital and county on conveying these
20 ft to the clinic for their westerly
[12:56] access where this open space easement
is. Um we the city is maintaining the
[13:02] utility easement that went with one open
space easement. So you can see here it's
[13:07] two different easements. Here is an
existing easement for open space as well
[13:11] as utilities. We're retaining that
utility easement. We're just proposing
[13:15] to vacate the open space easement
associated with this map. And then
[13:19] exhibit B is the other open space
easements as well. So this is what we're
[13:24] proposing to vacate. You can see they're
kind of all over the place. Particularly
[13:29] also that EDA is looking to develop this
area and are inactive conversations with
[13:34] developers. This would also impact
future development. So removing the open
[13:39] space easements um ease all of that.
So this is all a part of you know
[13:45] cleaning up that that area so it's it's
more more square uh so everybody has a
[13:55] clear idea of of the ownership of of the
associated properties. Um this is
[14:02] something that the EDA and planning and
zoning have been working very hard to to
[14:07] simplify this purchase
uh while also uh maintaining
[14:14] uh a focus on the existing burning
businesses there. So
[14:19] » for the record, can we state where this
is?
[14:22] » Yes. So this is um right here north is
traditions. Right here is the clinic
[14:30] that houses dialysis and TC aiology. And
this is the old hospital lot where the
[14:36] EDA owns those properties. So you have
Fair View on the North Street and this
[14:41] is on Park.
[14:45] » Does that help orient everything?
[14:50] » Thank Oh, okay. Thank you very much,
Elizabeth. At this point, if anybody is
[14:56] here to address council on the
consideration of vacation of certain
[15:02] open space easements, I ask that you
address council now. Not seeing any
[15:08] movement on that right now. So, we'll uh
we'll close the public hearing portion
[15:12] of of this item here. uh open back up
for resolution 87, which is the vacation
[15:20] of certain easements for open space
affecting real property located in the
[15:25] city of Olivia. That's resolution 87.
I'll call for a motion to approve
[15:30] resolution 87.
>> So moved.
[15:33] » Second.
>> Motion's made by Howard, seconded by
[15:35] Evers to approve resolution 87. Any
other discussion? Hearing none, all in
[15:40] favor say I.
>> I.
[15:41] » Any opposed? Resolution 887 um passes.
Okay. Now we have another uh public
[15:48] hearing to go through here. We'll take
some staff reports on a conditional use
[15:54] permit.
>> Thank you. So um this is for a
[15:59] conditional use permit to establish
outdoor storage facility what's
[16:02] currently within the I1 light
manufacturing industrial district. So
[16:06] this is the address is 21102 Fair View
Avenue. Uh the property use consists of
[16:12] outdoor storage bases for boats,
campers, fish houses, trailers,
[16:16] vehicles. Um the property was formerly
utilized as a feed lot. Um contained a
[16:22] lot of different structures. The
applicant has been diligently removing
[16:26] them. Thank you. Um and staff has found
that the proposal qualifies as open
[16:32] storage um as the primary use and that's
under the conditional use of the
[16:37] district I mentioned previously.
Um, we have noted that open storage
[16:42] screening requirements are required. Um,
and they should certainly be considered
[16:47] by the city council as part of the
conditional use permit requirements. So,
[16:51] screening requirements could be a fence,
could be bushes, um, just an active
[16:56] screen. Um when the planning commission
uh discussed this, there is a
[17:02] stipulation that there is currently in
our code an 8-foot screening requirement
[17:06] and planning commission is interested in
reviewing that to see if 8 foot is
[17:11] really necessary. More of them felt like
six feet would suffice. So they are
[17:15] looking at um amending that screening
requirement in the future from 8T to six
[17:20] feet. Um, and overall staff is
recommending the approval of this
[17:26] conditional use permit subject to the
following conditions. That it's operated
[17:31] as an outdoor storage facility. Um,
storing junk, salvage materials,
[17:36] dismantled vehicles, hazardous
materials, or similar nuisance materials
[17:41] not prohibited. Um, any outdoor lighting
that's established should be directed
[17:45] downwards to minimize light spillover to
neighboring properties. the outdoor
[17:50] storage area should be limited to the
proposed fenced area. Um, and then if
[17:56] they expand the storage area, they need
to come back and amend the conditional
[18:00] use permit if they're expanding. And
then again, that they should require
[18:04] comply with the open storage
requirements
[18:07] um, open storage screening requirements,
but it is possible that that could be
[18:11] amended. So we're putting a timeline of
that as 365 days within the approval of
[18:18] the conditional use permit.
So that is and I believe Marissa
[18:25] included a beautiful map
just exhibit. So exhibit of the legal
[18:32] description.
>> So everybody know the property I'm
[18:35] talking about or do you want me to pull
it up?
[18:38] for in humorous. Thank you. Absolutely.
Wall 21.
[18:46] Yeah.
>> So then if this if the open storage
[18:51] screening requirement goes down to six
feet from 8 then their requirement moves
[18:55] to
>> six feet. Correct. We don't have to.
[18:59] » Correct. That's why we would we are
recommending that they have a full year
[19:04] to come within compliance of that
screening requirement because the commit
[19:08] the planning commission is looking at
amending that down to six feet. So we're
[19:12] not asking them to build it on day one.
We're asking them to give us a little
[19:16] time to consider an amendment and then
they would be responsible for the
[19:20] screening requirement.
So, if we pass a resolution for it
[19:24] today,
>> um, and I don't know if you know the
[19:28] answer, Pam, do we have to pass it with
that mentioning
[19:32] » the resolution? The resolution includes
those conditions that I just stated.
[19:36] » Yep.
>> I'm sorry, that was my staff report. We
[19:39] can get into discussion in a little bit.
>> Anybody here from the public to here to
[19:43] address council on this proposed
conditional use permit? property owner
[19:48] if you'd like to come up.
>> I sure can.
[19:52] » He's going to be like, "Please."
>> Yeah. Item P from Augustus, the property
[19:57] owner.
>> Whatever questions you may have.
[20:02] » There's the property.
>> Any questions from council for Keith?
[20:08] » We bought all the fencing stuff already.
>> Yes.
[20:10] » Okay.
>> And then you're tearing all that down.
[20:14] » I already did. It's all cleared out.
So, what is what is going to be fenced?
[20:20] What do we look for?
>> You can go on up and
[20:23] » it's not a smart board, but
>> that's okay. So, basically what you're
[20:26] looking at, this is all concrete here
except for this section, which I've
[20:30] already rocked and filled in and packed,
but this building,
[20:35] the uh cattle shoots, this has all been
cleared. This fencing's been cleared.
[20:39] This lean has all been cleared. This
concrete is all there yet. So the area
[20:44] that we're talking about fencing, it's
120 ft wide that goes from here to here
[20:48] by 180t deep that goes back here. So
that's the square. This section I'm not
[20:54] doing anything with yet, but the square
is going to run 120 by 180
[21:00] with your gating.
>> So in this area
[21:02] » where your gating will be right here
>> and that's why the fencing is required
[21:07] is because it's kind of essentially like
just loose out there,
[21:10] » right?
There's a screening requirement in our
[21:16] screening requirement, but that makes
sense.
[21:18] » It's part of our city for
>> Yeah. No, that's a good part of our
[21:21] city.
[21:25] » Any other questions for Keith?
[21:30] » All right, Keith. Now, we need to hear
somebody complain about it. So, if you
[21:33] can
nothing to complain, I think Dave's here
[21:38] to complain. Oh, thanks. [laughter]
[21:43] Everybody you feel like they got a good
idea what's going on?
[21:46] » Yeah.
>> Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.
[21:48] » All right.
>> Marissa's here to answer any code
[21:51] questions. Do you have questions about
the code?
[21:53] » Anybody else from the public want to
address council on this? All right.
[21:57] Anybody have any questions for Marissa?
>> How do you feel about the six to eight?
[22:03] » Uh, very good.
>> Okay.
[22:06] » I think it's a good move at 7 ft. it
becomes a building permit then you have
[22:10] to have a lot higher requirement uh
because of the height. So at six feet
[22:16] we're not requiring anyone to go above
and beyond that. They can do that at
[22:20] their discretion. If they want to go
higher then they will have to engage in
[22:25] the necessary uh professional uh
services to have that height. But if
[22:31] we're trying to remove higher
requirements, six feet is a good
[22:35] starting point and then they can choose.
[22:39] » Thank you very much.
>> All right. Uh so there's a resolution
[22:44] tied to this. It's resolution 88
approving a conditional use permit for
[22:48] open storage as a primary use on
property located within the I1 light
[22:53] manufacturing industrial district. I'll
call for a motion to approve resolution
[22:59] 88. So move
>> second.
[23:00] » Motion's been made by Howard, seconded
by Evers to approve resolution 88. Any
[23:04] other discussion?
>> Just pointing out at the end of
[23:08] » Oh, pardon me.
>> At the end of the resolution is the
[23:10] conditions that discussed.
>> Oh.
[23:16] Uh, any other discussion?
Hearing none. All in favor say I.
[23:22] » I.
>> Any opposed? All right. Motion carries.
[23:25] Thank you everybody.
>> Thank you.
[23:27] » All right. Mike is here to talk about
our police chief hiring process.
[23:32] » Want me to sit here? Both of us or do I
have to sit? Can I walk or you want me
[23:37] to?
>> You can walk.
[23:38] » Oh, okay.
>> You can walk.
[23:39] » Let me do this. I I don't know if I need
to introduce myself, but I'm my uncle
[23:44] with South Central South Central Service
Cooperative. I appreciate the
[23:48] opportunity to work with you guys again.
And hopefully we're as successful as we
[23:54] were the last time around. And so
I have a partner with me. Well, I've
[24:01] been in local government for 39 years.
I've only hired or assisted in the
[24:07] hiring of two police chiefs. One's
sitting right here and and the other one
[24:11] had had retired, too. So, and at the
time when Mike was hired, we used Baker
[24:16] Tilly to assist us in in that process.
Um, so I'm going to let Mike introduce
[24:23] himself. I just handed out a little bit
of information about Mike, his resume,
[24:28] and that sort of thing. But Mike's going
to be kind of our expert in the process.
[24:33] So, he will be with me the entire time
we do the the initial application review
[24:40] and screening. Um, he will work with the
city on some of the post board
[24:48] requirements. post stands for
>> peace officer standard and testing.
[24:54] » So he'll make sure that we comply
[clears throat] with that throughout the
[24:58] throughout the whole process and then at
the end as we get to the end of the
[25:03] process and we're here and um doing our
interviews, Mike will be part of that um
[25:10] from the interviews to deliberation as
our expert. I he's could answer a whole
[25:16] lot more questions about policing and
what that takes and what those post
[25:20] standards require. So, we'll be tag
teaming this along with the the rest of
[25:26] our our team at South Central Service
Co-op. But Mike, you want to just kind
[25:30] of introduce yourself and Sure. Um,
again, thanks for the opportunity to be
[25:34] here. Um, Leonard, I was recently
retired after 30 years in law
[25:38] enforcement. Um, 27 of those were with
my last department with City of
[25:42] Fairmont. uh nine of those as chief and
seen a lot of changes and we talk about
[25:50] changes challenges and opportunities and
that's kind of what you guys are are at
[25:53] here and when I started in 2016 as chief
of police first thing off the bat I
[25:59] ended up hiring three officers in my
first month. Uh so since then I probably
[26:04] hired between full-time officers um
part-time officers civilian staff
[26:09] probably close to 25 people during that
time. Uh,
[26:14] of course after I retired or my last
year of retirement, they hired a HR
[26:18] director to handle all that. So, um, but
I greatly enjoyed that part of my job
[26:22] was working with people, working with
the hiring process. Um
[26:28] with that seeing some some different
changes in our applicants for patrol
[26:33] officer positions and really for us we
saw a difference in the number of
[26:39] applicants and that's unfortunately
sometimes corresponding with other
[26:44] positions within
uh the profession as well. But a lot of
[26:49] it has to do with some things that
happened way before way back um in time.
[26:55] If we look at the mid60s when uh the
seven county metro area a lot of these
[27:01] agencies and cities started to
incorporate. So during that time they
[27:04] are hiring a large amount of new police
officers. So in 1964 1965 you see a lot
[27:12] of places with a um
huge increase in hiring for the
[27:17] profession. 30 years later, all those
people retiring and we saw our next rush
[27:22] of that in about 1995, which is when I
started. And with that, we also saw the
[27:29] um I think you remember the term Clinton
cops back in the day. Uh in 1994, Bill
[27:35] Clinton signed a bill to put a 100,000
more police officers on on the streets.
[27:40] And that was also during this time that
we were seeing this huge turnover in
[27:44] that first batch of police officers. So,
um, Fairmont went from we had 15
[27:50] officers at the time, we got three of
those positions. So, um, and we've
[27:53] retained those since. So, now that same
group along with my group that's
[28:00] retired, a lot of people that were hired
during that same time are also retiring.
[28:04] So, we're seeing that vacancy
cycle again. Um, and that that really
[28:10] affects some of these um, executive
positions as well. Also um you know
[28:16] since 2020 we also saw some changes
after co and George Floyd uh police
[28:21] reform that was in our state here uh
created a lot of changes in the
[28:25] profession and some people chose to
leave the profession. Um saw people
[28:30] chose not to go into some of the schools
anymore. So we saw the recruitment
[28:34] [clears throat] issue and we've been
addressing that um pretty aggressively
[28:37] as a profession and we're seeing that
coming back. So that's great to see.
[28:42] We're seeing a lot of good people
getting back into this profession. Um,
[28:46] [clears throat] with that um, you know,
we're seeing um, numbers of candidates
[28:52] being down, but I, as we talked about
those opportunities, I don't see that as
[28:56] a bad thing. Back in the day, we used to
go through everybody's resume where you
[29:01] had a checklist where we were looking
for everything else and because we were
[29:05] sorting through probably about 40 to 50
applicants for one job in a city the
[29:09] size of Fairmont. Um, so we're trying to
get that down to a workable number. Um,
[29:15] what I'm finding out and what I like
doing, we just invite everybody in. We
[29:19] get to know them as a candidate. We sit
across the table from them. We talk to
[29:22] them and we focus more on their
character. What are they going to bring
[29:25] to the table? They may not have some
things checked on their resume, but they
[29:30] bring some characteristics and traits
we're looking for. And that's kind of
[29:33] the um, I guess exciting thing for me in
speaking with Mike and what they look
[29:38] for in their process. Um, we're looking
for some of those traits and again
[29:42] trades that are going to fit for the
city of Bolivia here. So, um, really
[29:46] looking forward to that. Um, and one of
the things, you know, Mike says I'm an
[29:51] expert. I'm not an expert. I'm a
resource. I'm a resource for you guys as
[29:54] well. So, you have my contact
information.
[29:57] » Okay. I'm Mike's expert, but I'm a
resource to you guys. If you have any
[30:01] questions on anything during the time,
feel free just get a hold of me. Shoot
[30:04] me a text, give me a call, shoot me an
email, whatever works for you. I'm
[30:07] always there. Um, I'll be more than
happy to get back to you and talk to you
[30:11] about some things. So, but looking
forward to it. So, it's kind of a great
[30:14] opportunity for me and yeah, very
pleased to be here. Thank you.
[30:18] » So, what what I want to do next then is
talk about our process and I mean we've
[30:23] all been through it before, but this is
a little different. So,
[30:30] just take one.
This is I'm just kind of going to go
[30:35] through our philosophy a little bit. You
you know, our thing is that you're all
[30:41] volunteers, you have day jobs,
um you have families, so you don't have
[30:48] the time to do the search and the
vetting that that we're going to do. Let
[30:52] us do that. Trust us to do the right
thing. And then
[30:59] your staff on the other hand,
they have a lot on their plate as well.
[31:05] And if they're doing this recruitment,
they're not getting something else done.
[31:11] So, I think having a recruiter is
important. Um, we don't leave your staff
[31:18] out. They're part of the process, but we
go out and we do the the marketing and
[31:23] the advertisement and we'll certainly
work with the city staff, especially on
[31:28] a search like this. Do you know of any
individuals in the region that might be
[31:35] thinking about looking at this? We can
we can make contact with them. We can
[31:39] tell them, hey, here's here's the here's
the position. What kind of questions you
[31:43] have? So, we'll include staff. But I
think really, you know, our process is
[31:48] we'll bring you hopefully
three or four candidates that all have
[31:55] the skill sets to do the job. They might
not have been police chiefs before. They
[32:00] might have varying backgrounds, but all
of them have the skill sets to do the
[32:04] job. your job and your city staff's job
because we'll include them in the
[32:08] process like we did last time is to
determine who's the best fit for the
[32:14] city of Olivia organization and and your
community. That's really what's going to
[32:18] make make the position important. So,
I'm not going to walk through the, you
[32:23] know, Mike and I, we'll figure out a
process to weed out the applications or
[32:28] weed out the applicants and get down to
the process that we're going to begin to
[32:35] identify finalist when we do that. If
you remember, I work with another
[32:39] private consultant that is is also is an
expert in HR as Mike is in law
[32:45] enforcement and she does a management
leadership assessment and a PXT
[32:51] assessment. Now, the PXT assessment we
purchased. Last time we purchased one
[32:56] that said what are the the the thinking
style and behavioral traits and interest
[33:01] we need for a city administrator. this
time that company will create that same
[33:06] PXT assessment for the the ne the things
that a a police chief should should
[33:11] bring to to the organization.
And I think the best way to kind of talk
[33:18] about how where Mike's going to fit in
is in is in and a full process. And this
[33:24] is for um councelor Howard because I
don't think he was part of this last
[33:28] time, but let me just walk through this.
So the 17th of August you you decided to
[33:35] hire us. Um the 2 or
yeah to move forward the 26th you uh I
[33:43] passed out a questionnaire. I got I
think 12 or 13 of those back. They'll be
[33:48] summarized in your position profile and
we'll also use that to help candidates
[33:54] understand what the expectations of the
city are. So we'll do that. So, um,
[34:00] August 26th to the 11th, we'll be
putting together the position profile,
[34:05] developing our our marketing strategy,
um, how we're going to identify people,
[34:11] and and we've decided that I'll let Mike
touch on this if there's questions, but
[34:17] I don't think it's in our best interest
to look nationally. I think we're going
[34:22] to look regionally. Iowa, um, Wisconsin,
maybe a little bit in South Dakota, but
[34:28] but regionally, I think nationally, I
just think sometimes we just run into
[34:34] finding people running from something
maybe. So, we'll we'll keep it we'll
[34:39] keep it regionally. Um, we will market
to
[34:43] all the post places that that they
accept applications for Minnesota police
[34:50] officers, all the standards, league of
Minnesota cities, Iowa League of Cities
[34:55] and so on, ICMA,
um,
[34:59] National Association of Counties, that
sort of thing.
[35:03] So, we've got all that done. We'll begin
advertising on the 11th.
[35:09] um we'll advertise for 30 days. Um the
end of 30 days will take so October 12th
[35:17] to the 30th that's 15 working days and
that seems like a long time but Mike so
[35:25] I can get through our process pretty
quick but post requirements and that
[35:30] that we want to make sure if you were to
get audited you pass all of those. So,
[35:36] Mike, can you just kind of run through
some of the steps we would do in that
[35:40] part of the vetting process?
>> Um, nothing more fun than going through
[35:44] a post audit at your agency and one of
the things they do is they take your
[35:47] background packets and they scrutinize
them. Make sure you hit their five or
[35:51] six pages of checklist items that you
have to have and uh
[35:57] my agency them every time. So, it's uh
something I'm very proud of, but it's
[36:01] not a fun process um because they they
hold our licenses and if we're not
[36:06] hitting those marks and we're not hiring
by their standards and making sure that
[36:10] we're checking all those boxes, um we'll
have repercussions. So, with that, um we
[36:16] have a variety of things that we have to
that post mandates that we have to
[36:20] include in a background check. And it's
a bit of a process um but it's uh it's
[36:27] one that um like I say it gives you a
great insight into who you're looking at
[36:33] as a candidate and if there's any issues
you know everything we it used to be
[36:38] you're doing the criminal background and
all that other stuff. But now it's also
[36:41] including um you know certain marks of
their social media, making sure that
[36:47] they're um out there putting hateful
things out on social media. Um that the
[36:54] social media is reflective of what you
want in a candidate for your community.
[36:58] Um also we going we have to um uh focus
in on if they're current law enforcement
[37:05] officer there's free gig requirements.
So basically it has to do with what
[37:09] their reputation and if there's any
impeachable
[37:14] um conduct that their um their county
attorney is aware of that they have to
[37:21] provide to defense council. So we have
to document quite a few different areas.
[37:25] It takes quite a bit of time. Um but
it's done for a reason. Has to be done.
[37:31] Um I love doing and I hate doing it
without saying it's a very exhaustive
[37:36] process. Um, but
what what our I'm looking at doing is
[37:41] making sure that we have a background
candidate for the candidates that you're
[37:44] background packet out to the candidates
that you're interested so they can start
[37:48] gathering that information. They have to
go back and provide to the city um their
[37:53] their transcription schools they've
attended, everything along those lines.
[37:57] So there's there's a lot of things they
also have to bring to the table as well.
[38:01] » Can you explain to the council this
impeachable? So like basically if if
[38:06] they have any dis stuff on their
records, it has to do with so Brady
[38:09] Gigglio is um is reference to basically
if the law enforcement officer has shown
[38:17] a pattern of being dishonest, their
testimony in court does not carry the
[38:21] same weight as an officer that's not on
a gigio list. So you look at some of the
[38:25] larger departments, um at one point my
understanding was Minneapolis when they
[38:30] were full staff had about 100 officers
on that. um
[38:36] it just doesn't work well. You can't
have um but you can't ignore it either.
[38:42] So that's where it's just you have to
make sure that we're checking those
[38:45] marks. So basically if the person has a
history of um
[38:51] uh disciplinary actions of abuse of
power if there's a whole variety of
[38:56] things that could factor into that. So
basically when our officers go to
[39:00] testify, I provide any disciplinary
stuff, any um concerns to the
[39:07] prosecuting attorney who then turns that
over to the uh defense attorney. So it
[39:12] has to do with their credibility as wife
to the
[39:14] » Thank you for that.
>> Yep.
[39:18] » Yep. Absolutely. So um any other
questions about kind of the whole thing?
[39:24] It basically there's you know we've
talked about some things that we'll also
[39:28] need to have um from the city on that
and uh again at the end of the day you
[39:33] guys retain it all and when post comes
and call it you can end of that and um
[39:39] just let them go through it. But yeah
it's a it's a a very in-depth look into
[39:44] the candidates's life to make sure that
they're going to be a good fit for your
[39:47] community and good for your department
but it's checking a lot of boxes for the
[39:52] state. So we're so basically we're doing
the same thing we did last time, but
[39:57] Mike's ensuring that we're we're getting
the things done that the state requires.
[40:01] Um there's more. So we'll do that for
the candidates that we want to once you
[40:08] decide here's we'll say here's the
three. Yes, I want to interview those.
[40:14] Then we'll do some additional background
and and that and then there will be some
[40:18] final background that will be done even
after you make your final decision on
[40:23] that individual. Correct.
>> Um yeah, you talk about the formal or
[40:27] conditional job offers.
>> Yeah, basically the conditional job
[40:30] offer um points you're required to send
to a psych medical um that part of that
[40:35] and retain that information. But um
yeah, that would be I mean for the
[40:40] candidate that jumps out that you guys
want to go after, that would be
[40:44] something to set up at that point. Um
the background's good for 6 months, the
[40:48] psychological is good for uh 12 months
during that time. So,
[40:54] » oh, so the first part that you were
talking about, you're going to do that
[40:56] to everybody that applies to see if they
should even move forward.
[41:00] » Going to start with that vetting
process. get through our vetting before
[41:04] we take anybody through the through the
next step of the
[41:08] » So basically when when you as a council
say we really like this candidate then
[41:13] we're going to look at I'm going to give
them the back so
[41:17] presented they'll have the background
pack that they can start on because it
[41:20] takes so while it's about
>> 60 pages of stuff they have to put
[41:25] together um where they've lived every
county they've lived in I mean we go and
[41:29] look for police contacts and every place
they've lived. Um, so it's very
[41:35] intensive, but it's also intensive for
the candidates have a lot together and
[41:39] put together. So, um, basically got the
first part is Mike vetting them just as
[41:44] a a candidate. Um, and my part is when
you guys find the candidate, you're
[41:50] like, this is the one we want to move
forward with. Um, they'll hand me that
[41:54] packet and I'll just get that stuff
rolling so you have that information as
[41:58] quick as we can. And I just write I mean
to the point now that's a lot more in
[42:03] depth than yeah
>> I hired the city administrator and so
[42:06] that'll you know set up the interviews
hope hopefully our date is November 2nd
[42:13] for interviews um November 16th and 17th
that part of the process will be a lot
[42:20] the same. I um I think it's important
for the candidates to meet with city
[42:26] staff. Um, I think it's important that
that Elizabeth talk to them and outline
[42:33] expectations and that sort of thing. And
you know, if you want with that
[42:38] candidate and I've done when city hired
Mike, we had a a meet and greet as you
[42:45] know, so the community can meet them. We
did that last time your city
[42:49] administrator. So, a lot of that will be
the same. the the two the day and a half
[42:54] structure will be the same, but all of
the stuff behind the scenes is going to
[42:58] be much more. Mike's here to do that for
us. Um,
[43:05] you know, I think and I think you went
over that medical. Yeah. So yeah, it
[43:12] seems like a long process and you know
if we get to it and we don't think one
[43:16] of the things I'll be doing um in that
time period as the applications come in
[43:23] I'll send Elizabeth a week you know
every seven to 10 days kind of how many
[43:29] applicants applications we we received
I'll give you a brief summary of those
[43:35] no names no nothing like that but just
their educational background around, you
[43:40] know, years of service, that sort of
thing. So, you're getting an update. And
[43:46] if we get to um
October 12th and we don't think there's
[43:54] candidates we want to where I'm not
going to bring you bodies. I'm going to
[43:57] bring you qualified candidates. I'll
I'll you'll know that and we'll talk to
[44:02] Elizabeth and we'll just kind of sit
back, visit a little bit, regroup and
[44:08] and extend it. But I'm I'm hopeful. I
you know, I think you're in a good area
[44:14] with some larger cities around you where
there's sergeants in different levels of
[44:20] of officers in the area that may or may
not be interested. But um you know and
[44:25] there's a lot of that um and Mike said
this earlier there's a lot of folks out
[44:30] there that are saying you know still
want to be in law enforcement but I
[44:34] don't know if I need to be in a major
metropolitan city and you know maybe in
[44:39] maybe it's some of those folks that are
10 15 years into their career and
[44:46] they've had a lot of good and bad
experiences that you know they're just
[44:50] ready to wind things down and not that
They're not going to be prepared for
[44:55] anything that happens, but it's not
hundreds of calls and just the the
[45:00] mental
>> things they go through. So,
[45:04] » everything happens just not as
frequently,
[45:06] » right?
>> I think that's probably very true, too.
[45:09] » And like I say, very remarkable
community. I mean, it's it's a lot of
[45:13] positive things that you have here for
somebody that's looking to not be in the
[45:16] metro. And there's law enforcement
outside of the metro. I keep trying to
[45:21] tell people that [clears throat] but a
lot of positivity. I grew up in St. Paul
[45:25] and first thing I did was move out of
the area. Uh it really enjoyed being in
[45:31] the metro and um one of my daughters
just moved back to Minneapolis. So um
[45:38] she's going to school there and I've
been trying to get her to come back to
[45:42] Fairmont but um mother daughter
was about a mile from me in Fairmont so
[45:48] she'll never leave. So yeah, one of
them,
[45:51] » you know, and one of the things I
recall, you know, um we had a number of
[45:55] officers from from the metro and you
know, they they bring great experience
[46:00] and that sort of thing and it they seem
to work out well. So we'll do our best
[46:06] to target those kind of folks and
[clears throat]
[46:09] questions for us.
>> I do want to address something you
[46:13] mentioned earlier when you kind of just
started with the intro, Mike. I do
[46:18] appreciate that, you know, you're going
to be kind of taking some workload off
[46:22] of our staff here, but I just want to
let you know the reason why we hired you
[46:26] guys is because of the results you
provide. in both the um executive
[46:33] searches that I've been involved with
with your company, I
[46:38] this is strange to say it in front of
Elizabeth, but I am absolutely uh
[46:43] incredibly impressed by the level of
candidates that you bring to the table.
[46:47] That is why we hired you. Well, I I
appreciate that, but I think those
[46:50] candidates were in both were looking at
your community and where they wanted to
[46:56] be next in their career, and sometimes
you just get lucky,
[47:00] » too. [laughter] There's times
[47:04] a charm. Great.
I I I do I do appreciate it, but if you
[47:10] have any qu you know, I do think it's
important to take the the the load off
[47:15] the city staffs and and herb for
majority of it, but keeping the staff
[47:21] and you involved is is important. I have
a friend of mine that's the city
[47:25] administrator in Jainsville, Clinton
Rogers, and I was talking to him, you
[47:30] know, they they are finally after two
years, they did the search internally or
[47:37] by themselves, he and the council and
and they're they are bringing a
[47:41] candidate finally to um the interview
process, but it's it's a lot. he didn't
[47:48] quite understand all of this and some of
the challenges with the with the market
[47:54] out there right now and Mike understands
the market and talking to those folks
[47:58] daily. So
>> well and knowing how to word it and
[48:02] knowing what an officer I mean that's so
smart on your end to have
[48:08] » you know a different
>> Yeah. Yeah. We don't know like we're
[48:12] just like hey job money here you go. I
mean, obviously Elizabeth would do way
[48:16] better than I would do as posting at a
job, but um but that knowledge to add
[48:22] that on there and your timeline always
seems to be on point like, "Yep, we're
[48:29] here. We're here. We're we're not like,
"Oh, we're behind." You know what I
[48:32] mean? It's always been nice to know that
this is a timeline and this is actually
[48:37] the timeline that we're going with.
Well, let's let's
[48:42] be confident that on the 16th and 17th
we at least have two to three people to
[48:49] look at.
>> Love it.
[48:52] Any questions, R for Mike and Mike?
>> I think you know everybody knows how to
[48:58] get a hold of me. You have Mike's resume
with his contact information. We both
[49:03] bring a fair amount of folk from our
homes. My travel a lot, but
[49:10] Yeah. And it's good to be back in
Olivia. I told Mike it's been a year or
[49:14] two since I've been here and it has
been, you know, over three. So I city
[49:20] hall looks beautiful.
>> Yeah, absolutely.
[49:24] » Thank you.
>> Well, we appreciate you guys coming
[49:26] down. We appreciate you guys uh helping
us out through this very important task
[49:30] and and we look forward to uh the
process.
[49:34] » Thank you much.
[49:37] Enjoy your evening.
[49:44] » Good to see you. Thank you.
>> Thank you both.
[49:46] » Thank you. One thing that I do want to
put before I leave. Um September is
[49:52] prostate cancer awareness month. Next
month will be six years for me. Cancer
[49:57] three. It was a blood test that
established my baseline. ESA blood test.
[50:03] You are not too young. We're getting
guys, especially those that are
[50:06] deployed. We're getting guys that are
coming in and testing positive for this
[50:10] at 25 and 27 years old. So, get the
blood test. It's not the dreaded digit
[50:15] test anymore.
>> I suppose you want that, but I'll
[50:20] request it. But
>> no, no, God for me.
[50:23] » Thank you,
brother.
[50:25] » Thank you all. There you go.
>> All right, we're moving down to the
[50:30] first reading of ordinance 13, which is
repealing and replacing chapter 93 on
[50:36] animals of the city code of the city of
Olivia, Minnesota.
[50:40] » Yeah. So, no action tonight. Just wanted
to share this with you. Um, initially
[50:45] when we were proposing revisions to the
current code, um, myself, um, Chief
[50:51] Crumbhower worked with our city
attorney's office. they decided it
[50:56] became too unwieldy
to try and iron out kind of the
[51:00] inconsistencies in the existing code and
then harmonizing it with applicable
[51:06] provisions of state law. So they started
over from a Minnesota basic code of
[51:11] ordinances template and then they made
edits to more closely reflect what
[51:16] Olivia's current code were appropriate
align um to help us create this new city
[51:23] code. It really where we were really
struggling with our previous animal code
[51:27] was particularly along the designations
of potentially dangerous and dangerous
[51:31] animals and the inconsistencies there as
well as the inconsistencies against
[51:37] state law. So this cleans it up
immensely. Um Pam and her team um did a
[51:44] great job working on this. I don't know
Pam if you have any other comments you
[51:47] want to present.
Um, I just would point out that um
[51:52] there's also a provision that was that
we included related to um not allowing
[51:58] feeding of stray cats.
Um so I know that that's been a concern
[52:04] as well in the city.
Uh so that was a provision that we
[52:09] included. And um just emphasizing
Elizabeth's comments uh that the former
[52:16] code was out uh was not consistent with
state law with respect to um dangerous
[52:22] and potentially dangerous dogs and their
designations. So,
[52:27] » so you can hear see here um I know it's
been brought to my attention pretty
[52:32] quickly since I moved here about stray
cats mainly not a lot of stray dogs but
[52:38] the concern is people feeding stray cats
which keep them to stay and hang around.
[52:43] So we did address that here.
>> Anything addresses uh feeding wild
[52:48] animals or is that going to cover it
too? Uh Pam, anything that particularly
[52:53] addresses feeding wild animals?
>> Not that I recall.
[52:58] » Not not in this um
>> not not as written. Um we didn't know
[53:04] that that was something that was going
on or that was a concern. So we can
[53:09] certainly take a look at
>> I don't know. What do you guys think? I
[53:13] I have a neighbor that I know I have to
feed other animals.
[53:18] Not that it's ever bothered me, but
>> I mean we can certainly offer an
[53:23] amendment during the second reading.
Correct. Pam,
[53:26] » are we calling
>> that will give us I would like to get a
[53:28] better idea of what's going on and just
to take a look at it. I mean it could
[53:32] possibly be that that's something more
of a nuisance than under the ant. But um
[53:37] we certainly because we have definitions
of domestic and non-domemesticated
[53:41] animals. So I just would like to get a
better understanding.
[53:45] » Sure. um
of what's happening and where it would
[53:50] best be addressed.
>> Let us look into that.
[53:53] » Okay,
>> good suggestion.
[53:55] » Whether it is addressed in this
ordinance or if there's a different
[53:58] ordinance.
>> I just thought I'd bring it.
[54:00] » Yeah, thank you.
>> Feed the black and white stripe and
[54:04] can't see it. [laughter]
[54:07] » The white stripe going down the middle.
Okay. Uh any other questions?
[54:16] Thank you on that.
[54:24] » All right, we'll move on to staff
reports.
[54:27] » Sure. So, a couple of different reports
were included in your packet. Um, one
[54:31] was done, well, two actually were done
by our intern about uh, we had a lot of
[54:38] questions during the airport work
session about the hanger fees and where
[54:42] we were at. Uh, we're actually pretty in
the market for hanger fees. Um, to be
[54:48] quite honest with you, where we could
use an update would be our large hanger
[54:53] rental fees. Um, those are on a
different lease timeline than the tea
[54:58] hangers. So, both myself and Sean have
calendar reminders for the spring to
[55:04] re-examine that to provide ample notice
in the contract for that rent to
[55:09] possibly increase it a little bit. Um,
but it was great. It was great work done
[55:14] by Owen. He let me know he learned a lot
about airports. Uh, he was cold calling
[55:19] a lot of cities for this information and
quite a few cities asked to see the
[55:23] report after he was done. So, he also
got to share out the information which
[55:26] was great.
Um, so that's in the airport.
[55:30] » Can I go jump back to the cat dog
feeding thing?
[55:33] » Okay.
>> What if somebody says they're their
[55:35] cats? Do we have something about not
having 19 loose cats around your house?
[55:41] » Are we addressing I'm sorry. I just I
just want to make it as clear as
[55:45] possible for whoever is trying to
>> It's a hot button for the community.
[55:48] It's good to square this away.
>> You know what I mean? Just have it if
[55:52] somebody's like, "Oh, these aren't stray
cats. They're mine. All 19 of them.
[55:57] Pam, do you recall if we have a limit
number
[56:01] » or if they can be out and about? Can you
have your cats out around?
[56:06] » So, technically we do have a ordinance
against dogs and cats running at large.
[56:11] So, right here on the screen running at
large.
[56:14] » Um, so it's unlawful for any person who
harbors or keeps a dog and cat to
[56:19] prevail to they can't run at large. They
have to be on a leash or they have to be
[56:25] under the control and direction of a
person to be effectively restrained by
[56:29] command as leash. So if you have a dog
who's trained within a ventur's life,
[56:32] you say here and it comes here.
>> That that applies as well. So you can't
[56:37] just have
19 cats running at large and
[56:42] » around the neighborhood
>> around the neighborhood and say they're
[56:45] yours.
>> Okay? Because that would be against our
[56:48] » Does that get you out of getting into
trouble for feeding out? because
[56:51] » because they would be at large which is
prohibited.
[56:54] » Does that address that concern?
>> Yes. Okay.
[56:56] » Yeah. Thank you.
>> And I would say that there's also some
[57:00] um provisions with nuisances about um
that type of you know um
[57:08] ownership or or statements claims.
You know, would this mindset kind of
[57:16] just logically lead some lead anyone to
interpret that the outdoor feeding of an
[57:22] unleashed animal is completely
prohibited?
[57:25] » You would think so, but it doesn't.
>> I mean, well, this is a new I mean, this
[57:28] is new.
>> Yeah,
[57:30] » but I mean, wouldn't that be wouldn't
that be a logical interpretation of all
[57:33] this?
I
[57:35] » think you get it there. Yeah. That
essentially don't put any type of animal
[57:39] food outside. Actually, that's such a
good point. What if somebody has one cat
[57:44] and says they're only feeding their cat,
[clears throat] but
[57:47] » their leash cat,
>> their leashed cat outside, but other
[57:51] cats are stealing the food or the dog.
>> Again, I think the city's recommendation
[57:56] would be to bring in I mean, it's a lot
of whatifs. You can't you can't, you
[58:00] know, do your code on every single what
if, but I think then the the
[58:03] recommendation to the city would be move
that feed bowl inside.
[58:08] » Okay.
>> Right. So, if we have somebody who's who
[58:10] has an issue with it and says, "Well, I
like to feed my dog outside." There are
[58:14] a couple ways. One, do you have an
enclosure for your animal outside?
[58:18] Right? Like in our code, you can have a
dog pen. Well, that's completely fenced
[58:22] in, especially from the top. That's not
as big of a concern. That's not an open
[58:25] food bowl if it's in a secure kennel.
But otherwise, if you have an open food
[58:30] bowl and you have all these 19 cats and
you're saying, "Well, my food bowl is
[58:34] only for my one." Then we have a
conversation. Let's move your food bowl
[58:38] inside. Water bowl, great, but food
bowl, let's move inside.
[58:43] » Okay,
>> good questions.
[58:49] » Yeah, I think this will be helpful.
Anyway, any other uh staff reports?
[58:54] » Yes, we also have um Owen also put
together a staff report for the
[58:59] community center and the usage this
summer. And so you can read about it in
[59:04] the packet, but just a couple of overall
um I wanted to give you some comparison
[59:09] numbers for last year as well. So total
in 2026, we had 478 people visit the
[59:15] community center this summer around the
end of May to the end of August. 222 of
[59:22] those were open gym, 256 were corn. So
you can really see how cornland has
[59:27] become a good attraction for our
community. If you compare this number
[59:31] with last year 2025, we had 94 visitors.
So really picked up um our visitors
[59:38] unique visitors in 2026 we had 105
unique visitors and 373 repeat visitors
[59:44] which is great. It shows people are
coming back. Um last year we had 44
[59:49] unique visitors and 50 repeat visitors.
Um this year we had 133 punch card uses.
[59:56] So people are really utilizing those
punch cards when they're coming to visit
[59:59] the community center. Last year we only
had 11. Um open gym visitors were most
[1:00:05] engaged with program activities. You may
recall this year we um offered a couple
[1:00:09] more structured activities throughout
the day. Those were most popular from
[1:00:13] late May to mid July. Um after that a
lot of the visitors were returning and
[1:00:19] so they had done a lot of the activities
already. So Owen pivoted and planned
[1:00:23] activities towards his repeat visitors
that would keep them engaged. Um most of
[1:00:28] the unique visitors were just May and
June, not July or August. Wednesday was
[1:00:34] the least busy day of the week, which I
found was interesting. In the middle of
[1:00:37] the week, it was least busy for both
Cornland and Open Gym. Open Gym and
[1:00:41] Cornland had nearly identical statistics
and attendance except for Fridays where
[1:00:45] Cornland had nearly twice the
attendance. I attribute that to a lot of
[1:00:49] our um community daycarees would visit
on Fridays. Um nearly all open gym
[1:00:54] visitors were in the 6 to 18 age range.
Slime making was the most popular
[1:00:59] scheduled activity. Um and average
arrival time was 10:09 a.m. and exit
[1:01:06] time was 11:43 a.m. So we really focused
on those morning hours.
[1:01:13] So that's we have for the summer
community report. What other reports
[1:01:17] could you possibly have for us today?
>> Um, I have S&P global ratings to share
[1:01:22] with you all that we are rated at an A+
which is very exciting. Um, and then we
[1:01:27] also included the pool report as well.
Um, and those are kind of the main
[1:01:34] things that we have to report out on.
>> Any reports from council?
[1:01:42] just that we had the pool board meeting
and we were discussing the Orca's
[1:01:48] contract and the increase that we were
going to do there and then we had the
[1:01:55] sand filter replacement discussion but
we had we tabled that discussion.
[1:02:00] Um,
and then just Tracy went over some of
[1:02:05] the stuff that she was going to do for
the fall to get people into the pool.
[1:02:17] » Yeah, it was just focused on the
property. Um, we didn't have a park.
[1:02:23] and um planning and zoning is focused on
on the 212 beef and hog property there
[1:02:30] that we just talked about. So
>> there
[1:02:33] » and PUC meets tomorrow
>> and I'll be at that meeting tomorrow for
[1:02:38] » right
>> alternate format. [clears throat]
[1:02:40] Is it going to be fun?
>> A fun
[1:02:42] » we'll be we'll be reviewing at PUC to
give you a sneak peek. We'll be
[1:02:46] reviewing the MMPA contract as well as
the suggested rates for 2027.
[1:02:54] » Sounds like a lot of fun.
>> Yeah, that's going to be fun.
[1:02:59] » I'll see you there.
>> Negotiating the last one.
[1:03:02] » Yeah.
>> Do we have any
[1:03:04] » The final The final decision is
tomorrow, is it?
[1:03:07] » No, it's your recommendation.
>> Do we have any notices or communications
[1:03:11] to talk about? Ridfest this Saturday. If
you haven't gotten your tickets yet,
[1:03:17] please reach out to Kevin at the Olivia
Fire Department for tickets. $25 per
[1:03:23] person
>> and
[1:03:25] they sell them there. If they're not
sold out,
[1:03:28] » just so you know, everybody here and
listening is required to vote for the
[1:03:34] Olivia favor.
>> I do. Um, also we're looking for a new
[1:03:40] chamber. Yes. John, do you want to talk
about that?
[1:03:43] » Yeah. So, we uh the chamber board has
accepted the resignation of the former
[1:03:49] director, McKenzie, and we are now
actively uh searching for a uh a new uh
[1:03:56] chamber director. It's a part-time
position, roughly 20 hours a week. You
[1:04:00] have any interest in it, feel free to
reach out to me. I'll get you uh some
[1:04:04] application materials and we will go
through that process. Thank you for
[1:04:09] bringing that up.
It's important. It's an important role
[1:04:12] in our community. Um, it's a halftime
role. So, uh, you know, that that comes
[1:04:20] in in that comes with its limitations is
from a recruiting aspect. But, um, there
[1:04:25] are some there have been some really
great community-minded halftime uh, EDA
[1:04:31] direct uh, chamber directors out there
in the past and uh, hopefully we can
[1:04:36] find another one to keep the chamber
moving forward strong. So,
[1:04:40] » and we are planning on this year's trunk
or treat event with outdoor fall themed
[1:04:45] movie for Saturday, October 10th.
>> It's a movie.
[1:04:49] » Halloween Town.
>> Oh, I think that's a uh
[1:04:54] » it's like a Disney Channel originality.
[1:04:58] » It's a good one.
>> Wonderful.
[1:05:02] » I asked kids this year. I said, "What
movies do you usually watch for
[1:05:05] Halloween?" And that was immediate
response. fantastic like Friday the
[1:05:10] 13th.
>> Here's the problem. I'm [laughter] a
[1:05:13] wuss.
[1:05:17] » It's not 1987. We can't raise our kids
like that.
[1:05:20] » If you watch Until Dawn,
>> no, that's scary.
[1:05:26] » Watch Until Dawn.
>> You picked the wrong person to host a
[1:05:28] horror movie like this. Just letting you
know.
[1:05:31] » No, no other business on the agenda.
I'll call for a motion to adjurnn.
[1:05:36] » So, second. Motion's been made by Ever,
seconded by Ferguson to adjurnn. Any
[1:05:40] other discussion? Hearing none, all in
favor say I.
[1:05:43] » I.
>> Any opposed?
[1:05:44] » Well, thank you everybody. We're
>> journal.
[1:05:47] Thanks, ma'am.