1 00:00:00,654 --> 00:00:13,910 [laughter] 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:43,030 Yeah, some trees today. 3 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,120 To the flag of the United States of 4 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,559 America to the republic for it stands 5 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:50,559 one nation 6 00:00:50,559 --> 00:00:52,879 indivisible with liberty and justice for 7 00:00:52,879 --> 00:01:03,510 all. 8 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,080 here. 9 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,119 >> Councelor Ky 10 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:05,519 >> here. 11 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:06,479 >> Councelor Smith 12 00:01:06,479 --> 00:01:14,789 >> present. 13 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:16,880 » Thank you everyone for coming to our 14 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,350 special meeting tonight. 15 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:27,590 Um, 16 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,469 do you want to discuss 17 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:54,870 how does 18 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,079 Item number one, approve the revised 30% 19 00:01:58,079 --> 00:01:59,840 design submission for the Veterans 20 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:28,390 Memorial Park and authoriz 21 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Yeah. 22 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,440 >> Okay, cool. 23 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,480 >> Yeah. So, Steve, you want to come on up? 24 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:38,501 Grab the 25 00:02:38,511 --> 00:02:53,910 [clears throat] 26 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,800 All right. Good evening. 27 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,800 >> Good evening. 28 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,959 All right. So I have a 29 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:25,350 paper prescue. 30 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,040 All right. So slide one, the 31 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,959 keep this pretty short. Back in March, I 32 00:03:30,959 --> 00:03:33,200 gave the council a much more detailed 33 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,760 update that went through every project. 34 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:49,990 Since then, I've also contin 35 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,920 since March and what we need to do to 36 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,840 keep moving forward. Slide two. What has 37 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,920 changed since March? A few things have 38 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,519 changed since March. Veterans Park has 39 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:01,040 gone through a lot of work and now we 40 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,439 have a 30% design fit within the VR 41 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:05,760 award. The 42 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,280 projects are no longer moving forward 43 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,239 the way they are originally planned and 44 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:12,879 street and soccer field still moving but 45 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:14,560 outside funding is going to affect what 46 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,840 we ultimately are able to do rest of the 47 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:20,560 projects are continuing to move along 48 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,880 slide three 49 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,800 projects at a glance this slide is just 50 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,360 really a quick snapshot of the whole 51 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,800 projects are all in very different 52 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,199 phases right now some are moving into 53 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:33,919 construction some are still in design 54 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:35,840 some are programs are already helping 55 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:38,320 businesses and we now have a couple of 56 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,759 projects that need to be reworked with 57 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:42,560 the state. It's pretty normal with a 58 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,919 program this large, especially when 59 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:45,440 projects take several years from the 60 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,240 original application to construction. 61 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Slide four, streetscape and soccer 62 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,560 fields. For streetscape, we're still 63 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,160 waiting on some outside funding we've 64 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,800 applied for. Because of that, we've been 65 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,400 trying to be very careful about how far 66 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,720 we move the design forward. We don't 67 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,400 want to pay for design or design 68 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,240 something and then turn around and have 69 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,280 to redesign it and pay more money. For 70 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,479 the soccer fields, the 900,000 NPR grant 71 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:12,880 uh that we applied for earlier this year 72 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,680 was not awarded. And I did another 73 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,639 $200,000 grant application through the 74 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:21,360 New York program for supplemental 75 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,639 funding for soccer. So both projects are 76 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:26,240 still very much alive and we're just 77 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,600 trying to make sure the final design 78 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,320 matches the money. 79 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Slide five and the business assistance 80 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,080 fund hotel is still moving forward. A 81 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,680 lot of the interior demolition has been 82 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,440 done and we continue to stay in contact 83 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:40,800 with the project team as they work 84 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,720 through the next steps. The business 85 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,639 assistance fund is moving as well. Some 86 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,479 of those projects are done, some are 87 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:48,960 construction and some are still working 88 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,199 through changing paper. I give you guys 89 00:05:51,199 --> 00:05:53,440 updates on each one. 90 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,960 There's also a lot going on behind the 91 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,240 scenes in both of those, but the 92 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,950 important thing is council public. 93 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,560 Slide six, comprehensive plan and 94 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,039 forbased code. The comprehensive plan 95 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:06,560 and form based code projects are also 96 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,560 underway. We have committee in place. 97 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,240 The consultants are working and we 98 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,600 started the community work that will go 99 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,840 into both those documents. This one's a 100 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,039 little different from the construction 101 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:16,560 projects because there isn't a building 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,440 or a park to point to, but it's 103 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,560 important because it's going to help 104 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,199 guide how grows and development is going 105 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:24,800 to look like and the kind of changes we 106 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,319 want to encourage over the next several 107 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,384 years. Debor and slide seven. This is 108 00:06:30,384 --> 00:06:31,440 [snorts] probably the biggest change to 109 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,360 the overall DRI since March. Debor and 110 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,880 are no longer moving forward as they 111 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,120 were initially awarded. The money 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,240 doesn't just automatically move 113 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,680 somewhere else. We don't get to simply 114 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,280 pick. 115 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,600 So just make that very clear. So we're 116 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,960 working with the Department of State on 117 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 what happens now. They have a process. 118 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:52,720 So for them on some 119 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,199 I bought Park and Cal Theater were two 120 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:56,720 of the original projects on the 121 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,880 strategic investment plan. Those are 122 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,199 what initially is we think the state is 123 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:02,639 going to move on and ask that those 124 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:04,479 projects be funded first before anything 125 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:06,160 else. 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,840 But until the state tells us exactly how 127 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:09,440 they want to handle it, I don't want to 128 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,360 tell council or the public anything that 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,639 I don't have complete information. 130 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:17,759 Slide eight, veterans memorial park. 131 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:19,599 For the best part, we now have a 30% 132 00:07:19,599 --> 00:07:21,680 design. It fits within the DRR award. 133 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,870 The current working number is1,58,696 134 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,479 and the DRI award is $1,59,000 135 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:33,680 saving $34. 136 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 That includes the splash pad, the court 137 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,759 work, the reduced bath house work, and 138 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:41,919 the veteran. The F-16 is separate. The 139 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:44,000 aircraft itself, moving it, mounting it, 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,639 the special foundation, train work, and 141 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,319 all other costs tied directly to the 142 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:50,560 aircraft are not being paid with DRRI 143 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,240 money. Not being paid with DRRI money. 144 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,520 And I want to keep saying this because 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,440 it matters. 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,759 This is still a 30% design. We are not 147 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:01,520 approving a construction contract 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,919 tonight. Slide N. What does 30% mean? I 149 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:07,120 think this is one of the biggest things 150 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,400 that has gotten confused during this 151 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,520 whole discussion. A 30% design is still 152 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,160 and currently designed. A yes vote tells 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,720 us and tells CNS that this is the 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,400 direction council wants us to keep 155 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,400 working from. It does not approve the 156 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,120 old 1.7 million estimate. It does not 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,120 award a construction contract. Does not 158 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,440 pay for an F-16. And it does not mean 159 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 the project can never change again. 160 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,159 There are still final design, state 161 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,240 review and bidding. Another round of 162 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,760 discussion before anything else is 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,719 built. Slide 10. Where do we go from 164 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:41,120 here? From here, the different VR 165 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,560 projects are going to keep moving on 166 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,480 different trends. Some need more design 167 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,880 work. Some need state approval. Some are 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,320 waiting on grant decision. Some are 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,120 already being built or implemented. My 170 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,440 job is to keep all of that moving. 171 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,720 It's moving on different tracks. 172 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,399 Keep the state and consultants 173 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,160 coordinated, keep the council updated, 174 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,760 and bring things back when council 175 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,480 actually decisions. That's really where 176 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,040 we are today. 177 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,680 This is the end of my DR updates. I have 178 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:13,440 more slides and I have more things that 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,000 we'll dig into the whole park, but I 180 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,200 think I've given this this council, the 181 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,680 city, and the community more than enough 182 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:23,839 information on what actual facts are out 183 00:09:23,839 --> 00:09:25,360 there and what has been put out as 184 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,839 misinformation. I'm happy to go round 185 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:29,279 and round with this stuff over the next 186 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:31,040 four or five slides, but I think it's in 187 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:40,150 the city's best interest move 188 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,800 if um and I didn't know if Luke was 189 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,440 gonna get to talk a little bit about um 190 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,640 you know I know some of the projects 191 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,480 have shifted since we started right and 192 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,839 something come out and I had I had um 193 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:54,800 families reach out with um some of the 194 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,720 popcornies specifically that we're just 195 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,959 concerned about the bathroom and I know 196 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:00,800 we don't have it's not in this project 197 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,800 now um that added in the future or if 198 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,760 not for this can we think about in 199 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,160 beyond the like focusing on just 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,680 preparing a couple of the total 201 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,279 foramilies 202 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,920 um the feedback I got from a couple that 203 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,519 we have 75 people to have the one potty 204 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,040 it just gets really challenging for the 205 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,399 players so just specifically the 206 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:22,959 bathroom 207 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:24,160 >> I mean it sounds original might 208 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,920 something you guys want to 209 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,959 Yeah, [clears throat] 210 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:30,399 >> just to clarify too 211 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,279 because there was two distinct elements 212 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,600 attached to the plane 213 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,399 side and the bath house. 214 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:38,800 >> Right. 215 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,880 >> So the original scope of work only had 216 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,360 the bath house connected to the pool, 217 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,320 not plumbing attached to the bathroom. 218 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 My original understanding was it was 219 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,959 that was incorrect. Not an original 220 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:54,240 bathroom. It was only the bath house. So 221 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,680 the original design that we had in 222 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,079 discussion with Victor we had targeted 223 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:01,600 design that whole thing part of that was 224 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,240 you know we didn't have any turnover the 225 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,560 stuff came in we didn't know what was 226 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:09,417 where so when we got the original 227 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:10,640 [clears throat] 228 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,279 understand the bath house is the 229 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:15,839 designated 230 00:11:15,839 --> 00:11:18,640 rooms is a separate activity 231 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,519 >> I think that was 232 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:31,110 Yeah, 233 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:50,230 » if you have any technical questions. 234 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:57,750 » Nice job. 235 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,030 All right. 236 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:08,629 » You want to clarify further about the $1.7 million 237 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:11,760 discussion. So that came from our wish 238 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,760 list of items back in August when we 239 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 walked the field. The bathrooms were in 240 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,200 there. house. We had everything top 241 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,639 shelf that we had designed in that which 242 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,360 is where the 1.7 obviously that initial 243 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,240 design was not where we needed to be and 244 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,000 we had to go back and revise the scope 245 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,079 inputs from council as well to say hey 246 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:31,760 got to get back closer to the mark. 247 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,040 That's where went back to the drawing 248 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,519 board and do the redesign the new 30% 249 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:37,839 design which is what is currently in the 250 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:39,839 packet. So the one that's in the packet 251 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:42,079 currently is the 30% design that was 252 00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:44,800 done with the input from council as well 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,279 as recommendations from engineering team 254 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:48,959 with a firm eye towards the financial 255 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:51,120 considerations. So, it's within scope 256 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,040 and cost right now with those 257 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 considerations all [clears throat] 258 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,920 I just wanted to briefly just discuss 259 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 why that number went up to 1.7 and then 260 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,160 why it's back down to 1.05. 261 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 >> Was there any movement on reaching out 262 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,760 to Corman or Chapman for donations 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 or anything like that? 264 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,760 >> Well, we emailed them for a discussion. 265 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,000 I haven't heard response u but we did 266 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,240 reach out to them asking if they had any 267 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,000 I know a thing out of Connecticut is 268 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,399 where the nonprofit is actually now the 269 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,959 families over there but it's out of 270 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:31,200 state but I did reach out with an email 271 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 asking specifically if there's any 272 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,749 interest in continum 273 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:46,150 [clears throat] 274 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,440 I think I 275 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,720 in June. 276 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,639 >> Yeah, the one you sent that was not the 277 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,720 link though to the to the application. 278 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,040 >> Okay. 279 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,360 >> Yeah, 280 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,800 >> it was their website. 281 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,320 >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was just their 282 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 >> I can find the application if you want 283 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,720 me to. 284 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,480 >> If you have an application like more 285 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,560 than happy to look at it apply for any 286 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,120 additional funding, you know, we're I 287 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,120 think this too just to mention this uh 288 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,560 we have grants that we are working on 289 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,160 for this as well because we do want 290 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,240 additional funding for this. Um those 291 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,880 grants come in annual cycles for the 292 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,560 So, we don't know exactly what we're 293 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:20,240 going to be getting, but applying for 294 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,920 the swims grant, you know, that's 295 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,279 essential to this to see how much money 296 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,120 we can get. We can get more, we can do 297 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,519 more. Same with ao fields. We applied 298 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:29,920 for the kicks grant. Um, and that was 299 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,000 again, thank you, Counciloman McHugh. 300 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,600 That was actually a really nice 301 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,120 suggestion. He was like, "Oh, that that 302 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,120 works out great." And when we reached 303 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,600 out to our state partners about it, um, 304 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,519 Alyssa, who's been great to work with, 305 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:43,519 she really, you know, thumped the table 306 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:45,199 and she's like, "The kicks program, 307 00:14:45,199 --> 00:14:47,040 right?" So, I think we might have a 308 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,040 little success there. So hopefully 309 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,880 there's some more. But we are actively 310 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,480 pursuing these grants very aggressively 311 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,920 because we want to get as much money as 312 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,199 we can. That annual appropriation cycle 313 00:14:57,199 --> 00:14:59,839 puts us a little bit behind, but we're 314 00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:01,839 hopeful that what we've submitted will 315 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:04,320 come back. So that's where the states 316 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,680 where we're standing with the grants 317 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,480 right now. 318 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,440 >> One more question. 319 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,000 >> Yes. 320 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,320 >> Um to do some of these projects, do we 321 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,079 have to match and put up any money? Does 322 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:14,560 the city have to have money to put up to 323 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,639 start construction on any of these once 324 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,240 we get them through? 325 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,560 >> Not to start construction. We did have a 326 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,120 match 20% match originally. The original 327 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,000 scope of work specifically called out AR 328 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,160 funding before my time whatever happened 329 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,920 to it. And so there's no more commitment 330 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,320 from the city. You know that being said, 331 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,600 you know, we went back and designed it 332 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,880 underneath the 333 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,189 capture. 334 00:15:43,199 --> 00:15:45,829 » Correct. 335 00:15:45,839 --> 00:15:54,710 I'm also a couple 336 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:08,389 trying my hardest to try to get that. 337 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,240 » That's a great idea, but also we could 338 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,790 use some money for 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,389 So sorry I can get you guys. [laughter] 340 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:23,759 » Any other discussion? 341 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:26,079 >> Mayor. 342 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:27,600 >> Um, 343 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,000 >> no. 344 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,440 >> With this special meeting, we're trying 345 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,360 not to we have public comment today. 346 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,560 We're not going to have any. 347 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,440 >> Sorry. 348 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,360 >> Sandy. 349 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,959 >> Oh, all in favor is me. All in favor? 350 00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:47,120 No. Any obstensions? Motion pass. 351 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,440 >> Item number two, receive and place on 352 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,320 file 353 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,800 3.7 354 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:02,629 receive on file observed 355 00:17:02,639 --> 00:17:07,590 section 3.7. 356 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:16,309 This is just the rece. 357 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:22,390 » Is there no discussion? 358 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,280 » 3.7 of the charter 359 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,959 that has to do with a past resolution. 360 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:30,320 That resolution failed. 361 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,880 >> So it's it's not the veto authority. The 362 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,240 dean explained this to me. She will not 363 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 be here tonight. Spoke with her this 364 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,400 morning. 365 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 It's a separate authority under 3.7 note 366 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,080 authority which is a but 367 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,280 >> right back on the agenda for 368 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,760 >> I quoted it will be every resolution is 369 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,240 passed by the common council and then it 370 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,679 goes on to say what they can do which 371 00:17:53,679 --> 00:17:55,120 would be put it back on I've got no 372 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:58,559 objection to have it back on just that 373 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:03,919 way the agenda reads citing something 374 00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:06,640 >> I'm just I just want you to know I did 375 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,799 go through this whole thing resolution 376 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:12,480 on the 377 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,480 >> I asked when they brought that up 378 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,640 because he said he received legal advice 379 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,960 elsewhere and I spoke I spoke to Peter 380 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,840 >> oh that's why I asked you had any 381 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,919 relevant information to share with us a 382 00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:27,120 little bit about it 383 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:30,799 >> just by 384 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,360 procedurally you can't 385 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,919 >> bounce back something unless I got 386 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:38,320 nothing against reoting on it, but to 387 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,679 have a written objection, right? 388 00:18:41,679 --> 00:18:43,760 This is just 389 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,000 >> Can I ask do you still have the detail 390 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,919 power? 391 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:49,520 >> Even though you vote with the council, 392 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:55,750 you have 393 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,039 to have the executive legislative branch 394 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:01,360 in the same 395 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:02,880 >> kind of interesting. And I just wonder 396 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,120 if maybe that was just when we were um 397 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,520 drafting the um referendum and the 398 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,440 language when we moved to a city manager 399 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,559 form of government, you know what I 400 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:14,400 mean? That maybe this also kind of came 401 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,799 up last year with the tax cap override, 402 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,080 right? It got to be a hiccup because 403 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,640 twothirds of seven is confusing. 404 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,240 >> You know, it might be a conversation 405 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,603 >> for another 406 00:19:24,603 --> 00:19:25,360 [clears throat] 407 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:41,909 topic. 408 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:49,510 Yes. 409 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,390 » Item number three, reconsiderations. 410 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,360 Approve the budget transfer set forth in 411 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,600 resolution 2613 412 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:12,950 originally considered and rejected. 413 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,760 motion. 414 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,200 >> Any discussion? 415 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,200 >> I move to amend the resolution113 416 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:29,430 by changing the set amount to 40,000. 417 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919 » I think it's a good compromise. 418 00:20:31,919 --> 00:20:38,470 I think I talked to Kyle. 419 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,799 » I just think we're 420 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,880 pretty much 421 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,039 >> because any unused balances go back into 422 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:46,559 the general fund. 423 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:49,919 >> So we're talking about 424 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:52,374 kids baseball Halloween parties 425 00:20:52,374 --> 00:20:55,200 [clears throat] want to cut um 426 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,400 everything to do with kids. And I not 427 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,200 agreed to that. 428 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,039 >> I'm just saying that's those are the 429 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:02,640 you're trying to pick from. Correct. 430 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,080 >> And that's the only options that we're 431 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,039 given this one. 432 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:06,799 >> It's not our place to pick the lines. 433 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:07,520 We're just trying 434 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,799 >> It definitely is your place when you're 435 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:10,640 when you don't do a budget transfer. It 436 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,080 is your place to tell us where are we 437 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,000 going to take that money to pay for gas 438 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:30,470 first for our 439 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,909 You guys 440 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:36,240 can only transfer 441 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,830 >> otherwise anybody 442 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,480 that's hoping you guys could identify. 443 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Is that what she 444 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,120 >> So when we the way I understood it was 445 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:48,880 to look at the budget as it is and if 446 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,400 there's money available to be moved into 447 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,400 that gas line I can move that gas. 448 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,120 So 449 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:56,480 >> but I can only do that within the 450 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,360 confines of 16. I can't go like water 451 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:03,830 department. 452 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,240 » Yeah, I I can't do that. But I can I 453 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,640 mean I'm happy 454 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,320 transfers. 455 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,440 >> I'll sit down with because I identified 456 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,799 60 lines that halfway through the year. 457 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:20,080 Okay. Again 458 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,679 though like there are a lot of things 459 00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:23,440 that don't get used until the end of the 460 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,640 year and like again like put music and 461 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,840 vendors in there as well 462 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,840 comes up. A lot of these things don't 463 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,200 get used till the end of the year and 464 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,559 again if we don't use them they go back 465 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:36,559 into the general fund right back where 466 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,720 we're trying to take out and again I 467 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,320 don't want to have our employees coming 468 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,360 back and forth to us saying back for gas 469 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,345 because they are going to run out. That 470 00:22:46,345 --> 00:22:48,880 [clears throat] question, why did we let 471 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,280 the tanks practically get dry within six 472 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,190 days of dry? 473 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,559 » Again, the tank's not big enough. We 474 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:58,400 talked about that last time, but so if 475 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,159 the tank dry all day, it doesn't really 476 00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:00,960 matter. 477 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679 >> But I don't think it's okay because we 478 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:05,919 never expected them not to accept this 479 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,760 general fund transfer. This is how the 480 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,520 government has worked since long as I' 481 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,679 been a part of it. Long 482 00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:18,710 when there's an emergency. 483 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:27,750 » Hey, excuse me. 484 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240 We at least I council was given no heads 485 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,840 up whatsoever. 486 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,440 >> That's another great point I was gonna 487 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,720 mention. I'm sorry. Um, in December, 488 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,559 every department had probably most 489 00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:41,200 employees knew they got a fraction of 490 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,679 their requested budget. So, conservation 491 00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:45,919 on all spending should have been enacted 492 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:47,280 in December. 493 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,520 >> Um, and just one other thing I noticed 494 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,320 in Le's last month report, 81 of our 495 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,000 budget lines were already below 50% 496 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,120 halfway through the year. So, this is 497 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,400 going to keep happening for the next 498 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 five months. And the general fund, we 499 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,080 know we can't let it drop below. We 500 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,280 should let it 15. If it drops below 10, 501 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,240 the state's in here. 502 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 >> If those lines are not used, then we go 503 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,799 right back here. So, we're doing good. 504 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,159 Again, we're halfway through the year 505 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:15,840 and we're 506 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,440 so 507 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,400 >> 81 lines are below 50%. There's less 508 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,000 than 50% less like I'm talking 30%, 14%. 509 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 >> Some of those lines might be seasonal. 510 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,110 >> Correct. 511 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,000 » Or you can try to pick and choose. I 512 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 would love to have more money from the 513 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,679 council. 514 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:38,159 I'll certainly be requesting it. Um but 515 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:39,840 it was a very difficult season last year 516 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,559 and gas was up gas is up a dollar year 517 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:44,400 over a dollar year today. Diesel's up 518 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:52,630 almost $2% 519 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,400 above what you budget though. I don't 520 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,440 think the gasation 521 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,080 >> I I agree. I think it's we were beholden 522 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 to the last council to get to that 5%. 523 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760 >> There was nothing we could do 524 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,440 >> essentially whatever they wanted they 525 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,200 said this is what you have to do to get 526 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,102 us to 5%. 527 00:25:11,102 --> 00:25:12,159 [snorts] 528 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:14,240 You're right it is under budget. It 529 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,080 should be higher. You know that 530 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,240 completely agree with you. You know we 531 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,720 are one disaster away from you know all 532 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720 this financial issues with the gas and 533 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,640 lo and behold we go to war with the rent 534 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,000 you know which I consider to be a 535 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,720 disaster. Look what happens. So it 536 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,840 definitely impacted us. 537 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,840 We did build a cost increase into the 538 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,320 last budget before gas and diesel but 539 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,760 again that increase was rejected or more 540 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,840 lines because we had to get it to a 541 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080 certain percentage working with council. 542 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,159 I I think it's a fair compromise just to 543 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:52,470 give you some time to look over the last 544 00:25:52,480 --> 00:26:03,492 baref 545 00:26:03,502 --> 00:26:13,669 [clears throat] 546 00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:15,120 about cutting things like I believe the 547 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,760 Christmas extravaganza the Halloween the 548 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,919 Halloween party 549 00:26:19,919 --> 00:26:21,840 Luke's here I I didn't feel comfortable 550 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,400 even with that 551 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,039 department 552 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:29,200 >> even the last council kept that 553 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,760 >> $100 in 554 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,243 our 555 00:26:36,253 --> 00:26:37,679 [clears throat] 556 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,320 operationally this is really challenging 557 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,720 to look at how we do things as a city 558 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,480 and that the way we've done things to 559 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600 this point, we've gotten here, so we 560 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,760 know something has to be different. And 561 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,159 you're an expert on knowing how cities 562 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:55,120 function, how to build these systems and 563 00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:56,640 efficiency, you know, all those things. 564 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,720 And so I would defer to your expertise 565 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,240 to know can we change the way we do 566 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,760 things to cut cost. So not concretely 567 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,679 cutting out no saying cutting out 568 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:10,000 children's happiness like just so you're 569 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,279 creative and you have a lot of 570 00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:12,880 experience. So maybe something 571 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,240 operationally we can shift. 572 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:14,799 >> Absolutely. 573 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:16,080 >> You know, and I think that's what I'm 574 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,600 envisioning here. Not just slashing 575 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,279 lines, but is there a way we can do 576 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,760 things differently to maybe save some 577 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,279 money? That's what I'm thinking. 578 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,480 >> Absolutely. And those are the right 579 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,480 questions, right? And and looking at our 580 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,799 operations and how we do things, the gas 581 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,720 savings restriction I put in place last 582 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,600 week. 583 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,720 >> Did you folks have a chance to look at 584 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,279 the tracker that I built in the butt, 585 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,520 but 586 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,880 every week, every Thursday, I'm going to 587 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,360 get a gas report. So, I'm generating so 588 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,840 I have a to go with 20% reduction across 589 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,840 all my departments. That's a little 590 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,520 aggressive, but I want them to get as 591 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520 close to that as possible. You know, if 592 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,080 we do that, we'll be way under 40,000. 593 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,520 So, that's my goal, right? Even with 594 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,880 having compromise and getting some money 595 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,120 in place, I will continue to keep the 596 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,640 gas restrictions in place to the end of 597 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720 the year, maybe even beyond if we have 598 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,679 to, depending on how things are going. 599 00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:06,080 [clears throat] Because, and I say this 600 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 to all my department heads, even if we 601 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159 get money in that line and it's an if, I 602 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:11,840 want to see money put back, right? 603 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,679 That's what I want to see and that's my 604 00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:15,760 directive to them because if you just 605 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,360 spend spend spend down, you have to 606 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,039 answer to me why you're doing that. You 607 00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:20,720 shouldn't just be spending down just for 608 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,399 the sake of it. I I refuse to accept 609 00:28:22,399 --> 00:28:24,080 that. You know, I need a justification 610 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960 as to why. So, we're looking at ways 611 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,799 that we can push back against a lot of 612 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,360 the spending. Um, to council Jill's 613 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,080 earlier point, you know, $1.6 million 614 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,559 last year was 615 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,039 too much too much. This year we're at 616 00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:40,960 about 273 617 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320 decay which is over 80% almost 81% 618 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,480 reduction in general fund spending that 619 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320 is thanks to the discipline fiscal 620 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,480 discipline my department has monitoring 621 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,480 everything working with Leanne working 622 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880 Jessica getting all our ducks in a row 623 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,480 is a testament to the fact that we 624 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,399 recognize the last year is not a 625 00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:00,799 sustainable practice we can't rob our 626 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,600 savings bank anymore to to kick the hand 627 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,240 down the road. Unfortunately, as I think 628 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,799 we all understand, we have some tough discussions to have. We got to 629 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:12,559 make some tough decisions. And I think 630 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,880 that's just the reality right now. So, 631 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,039 um I am more than willing to look at 632 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:19,360 anything and and review anything, look 633 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,360 at process improvement, how we can get 634 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,720 ourselves much more effective 635 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440 operations. There certainly is a lot we 636 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,120 can do right now looking at my DPW 637 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,440 that we can do. Um but stuff takes time. 638 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,679 It takes time and I think as we begin 639 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:37,440 some of these directives and more 640 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,120 austerity measures, we'll see the 641 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,840 dividends pay off down the road in five, 642 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,000 six months. And again, you know, back to 643 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240 the fuel track, right? 30 days from now, 644 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,240 we're going to know if the policy is 645 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120 helping and how much it's helping. So my 646 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,640 hope is we continue to go in these 647 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480 directions. So it's not just us saying, 648 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,480 "Okay, it's a crisis right now. How do 649 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,320 we fix it right now?" It's us saying, 650 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,120 "We have a structural issue structural 651 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,799 issue. organization. We need to correct 652 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,120 it. And it's going to be a multiaceted 653 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,799 approach. It's not one thing. It's not 654 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,559 just raising taxes. It's not just 655 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:10,640 cutting services. It's not just cutting 656 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,520 positions. It's doing all those things 657 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,520 in a way that makes sense if it makes 658 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,320 sense that provides real benefit back to 659 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,960 the state. So, it's a much more holistic 660 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,320 approach and that's kind of what I'm 661 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,240 looking at. And certainly right now with 662 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,760 budget season underway, we're working 663 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,120 through a lot of our departments and 664 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,399 through those budgets right now to 665 00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:30,799 identify what is the absolute need. You 666 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,159 know, and last year, yeah, we we were 667 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:35,679 very austere and I think, you know, 668 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:37,840 department heads were, you know, not 669 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,919 thrilled, but it's going to be a lot of 670 00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:41,360 the same again this year. And I'm just 671 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440 very honest with them. So, and I I say 672 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,039 it here and and they hear me out there 673 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:46,399 and it's it's what I tell them every 674 00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:48,960 day. So, we have to make these decisions 675 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760 and we have to get a rain on this and 676 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,440 keep the spending. You know, again, 677 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,960 we're looking at our spending, but next 678 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,720 year 679 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,480 we can rain in even more. Maybe there's 680 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,279 a chance to further go down. So, I am 681 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:02,720 more than willing to engage in those 682 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960 discussions and give my recommendations 683 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,960 and suggestions. I've already put out 684 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960 some, you know, feelers and some emails 685 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,640 originally with some of my general fund 686 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,559 ideas. And I call them my hammock 687 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:13,600 thoughts, right? Something will just 688 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,720 come to me and I'm like, "Oh, I got to 689 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960 write that down." share with council. So 690 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,720 any of those ideas that I bring up or 691 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,720 approaches, if one of those, you know, 692 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,840 speaks to you, you're like, "Hey, that's 693 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000 a good idea." By all means, you know, 694 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,279 shoot me an email, let me know, "Hey, 695 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,039 Kyle, I think you're on to something." 696 00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,720 And we could flush it out. 697 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,870 >> I would say anything. 698 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:53,269 » Definitely begun. 699 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:56,552 All right. So, being here 700 00:31:56,552 --> 00:31:58,480 [laughter and snorts] because motion to 701 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360 amend it and it was seconded by 702 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,519 >> unfortunately because there's two budget 703 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,399 items, you can't just throw out a 704 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:09,279 I have to have the separation 705 00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,320 propos amendment proposed amendment. Um 706 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,440 so you can do the allocated to each one 707 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,640 of those right now if that makes sense 708 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,960 and then you 709 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,519 decide you want to do the amended one 710 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,399 then that's a regular vote. If you 711 00:32:26,399 --> 00:32:28,080 decide no, we don't want to do the 712 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,519 amended one, we're just going to go for 713 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,320 it. Then we'll go back to the roll call. 714 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,640 So I first I need to know 715 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,640 >> how you want to split up the 40,000 716 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,480 >> 2020. 717 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,720 >> And just for point of clarification, you 718 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,977 can transfer between 719 00:32:46,987 --> 00:32:51,029 [laughter] 720 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:52,799 » just for everybody's happiness. 721 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:58,799 >> Can I just ask this? voting. I want 722 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:00,320 >> Well, I think everyone kind of gets my 723 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,039 opinion again. Um, we are literally just 724 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,000 doing things in a circle. If the money 725 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,279 we don't spend the money in those lines, 726 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,880 they go back in the general fund anyway. 727 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Why not just give our employees the gas 728 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,760 now instead of having them fight for it? 729 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,679 >> I keep asking and I don't know how many 730 00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,440 times 731 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,350 the plan's [clears throat] 732 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,559 I don't know about you guys, but I was 733 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,720 nervous. had to listen to that thunder 734 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,159 Sunday night going off thinking you guys 735 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:33,039 generators the power there's all these 736 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:36,559 old air conditioning 737 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,159 >> I'm sorry I would assume that now that 738 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:41,120 Kyle's tracking it he'll know 739 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,799 >> right now tomorrow if we leave here 740 00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:44,880 tonight the tornado hits we lose power 741 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,200 do we have enough gas to keep going 742 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,440 >> so we so I'll clarify this 743 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,480 >> what if we go to zero in gas and these 744 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,799 guys get 745 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,159 fire goes out and they don't have enough 746 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,760 gas to pull a fire truck out of the 747 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,679 housing. What is our plan? 748 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:01,840 >> You got 40,000 given to you and you run 749 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,279 out the next day. I think there's bigger 750 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:04,080 problems about 751 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,679 >> we're not going to pass another 40,000 752 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:10,149 next day 753 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,760 coming up though. It's not like all of a 754 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,079 sudden you go through 40,000 755 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,190 >> again. 756 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,280 So doesn't really matter. You know, we 757 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,879 don't have an answer. You got lines in 758 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:22,240 here that are 759 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:23,679 >> we still haven't heard from Luke. 760 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,359 >> Adult softball, Halloween party, 761 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:27,280 Halloween extravaganza, right? 762 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Playground mulch, youth baseball 763 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,040 contracts, concert and entertainment 764 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,399 contracts. These are the lines we're 765 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:33,440 trying to pull out. 766 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,599 >> You guys want to see that? 767 00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:37,119 >> Someone was already canled. That was in 768 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:37,599 the last 769 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:38,720 >> You're corre correct. They didn't have 770 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,560 enough people. But that's also a revenue 771 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,839 attached to it. So it's a wash 772 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,040 >> that we don't 773 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,599 >> if we don't. There was a revenue on one 774 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,320 side as 775 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,839 we didn't have revenue. We didn't have 776 00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,560 the expenditure. You pull that now. You 777 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,480 actually pulled 778 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,000 that money didn't exist before. 779 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920 >> We said last meeting we cut this budget 780 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,240 to the bone. There is nothing else to 781 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,079 cut. So I'm just pointing out there's 782 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,760 these things on it. We feel that that 783 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,000 can't be cut. That is the bare bones. 784 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,720 That's fine. 785 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,800 >> But there's a revenue on the other side 786 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,079 that offsets it. So it wasn't money we 787 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,000 were taking out of general fund to begin 788 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,040 with. 789 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,480 >> It was money that would have been 790 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040 revenue come in. 791 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,440 >> So if you now try to take that expense 792 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:37,279 now 793 00:35:37,289 --> 00:35:38,960 [laughter] 794 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960 >> we're just arguing about whether it is 795 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,320 20 or 10. 796 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,240 Can we just take a vote? 797 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,280 >> So this is voting on the motion to amend 798 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,480 the budget transfers from 799 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,400 0912 800 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,000 separated 20,000 to each one is going to 801 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,150 gasoline 401 and one is going to 802 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:09,670 amendment. 803 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,200 » Okay. All in favor? 804 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,839 >> I do a roll call. 805 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:25,349 >> Well, this one is this one is on the 806 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:27,359 » council. 807 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:28,320 >> Yes. 808 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,359 >> Councelor Ki. 809 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:35,829 >> No. 810 00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,400 » Yes. 811 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,640 >> I mean, no. Oh my gosh. I'm a No. Wait. 812 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,359 Holy crap. I'm a no. Yes. 813 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:48,480 >> Oh my god. I'm sorry. 814 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,440 >> Are you in favor? 815 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,839 >> I'm in favor for 816 00:36:51,839 --> 00:37:05,190 so 817 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,990 » now. 818 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,720 to vote on it as it was 2613 819 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,880 to leave it with figures as they are. 820 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,920 >> Council, 821 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,880 >> no. 822 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,400 >> Council, 823 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,119 >> yes. 824 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:26,320 >> Councelor Smith, 825 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,200 >> yes. 826 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,320 >> Council Jones, 827 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,040 >> no. 828 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,320 >> Council, 829 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:41,349 >> yes, 830 00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:48,310 Thank you guys all for coming. 831 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,920 » I'm gonna stay for a little bit. 832 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,839 Anybody's got questions about they want 833 00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:53,920 updates. I'm going to hang out and just 834 00:37:53,920 --> 00:38:10,950 talk to anyone. 835 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,079 How are you? 836 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:23,829 >> Oh, not much. How are you doing? 837 00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:26,320 How are you