[0:00] Call the meeting.
[0:03] » Call the meeting to order, pledge of
[0:04] allegiance to the flag
[0:06] >> I pledge allegiance to the flag
[0:08] >> of the United States of America
[0:10] >> and to the republic for which it stands,
[0:12] one nation under God, indivisible, with
[0:16] liberty and justice for all.
[0:19] >> Any news?
[0:28] » Chairman,
[0:29] everybody is there?
[0:31] Public comment.
[0:34] Open public comment.
[0:35] >> This is the lot going to be used for the
[0:37] dumpsters or
[0:40] for impounded cars that were towed in
[0:42] the lot.
[0:45] >> So, impounded cars are I don't know.
[0:47] It's a good question.
[0:48] >> Yeah.
[0:48] >> Cuz if I get I don't know where to look
[0:50] if I get towed.
[0:52] >> They've got an impound lot. Well, like
[0:53] the vault.
[0:55] >> Yeah, it could go there.
[0:56] >> You know.
[0:57] >> I don't know if that's an impound lot.
[0:59] >> Do you have any legitimate public That's
[1:01] a legitimate question.
[1:04] Public comment.
[1:04] >> I thought those were separate weekly
[1:06] meetings here today.
[1:07] >> Well, my understanding
[1:07] >> That will do. Thank you.
[1:08] >> My understanding purchase of lot is for
[1:11] recycling and and for a storage
[1:14] building.
[1:15] >> Yeah.
[1:15] >> Which our subcommittee discussed.
[1:21] That's my understanding.
[1:22] >> So,
[1:24] directed I went and got for Mr. Seymour
[1:26] and Mr. Pianto
[1:29] a purchase agreement that they would
[1:30] agree to, which is for $81,000.
[1:34] And we would split closing costs.
[1:41] The offer last time was 80 or 81, it was
[1:43] similar to that 2 years ago.
[1:47] So,
[1:50] they would agree to that. We have done
[1:52] Last time we looked at this, we did an
[1:53] environmental
[1:55] >> Did we really? See, I I wasn't I just
[1:58] remember that was my first meeting I
[1:59] ever attended. I wasn't
[2:01] >> Yeah, we did it because we were going to
[2:03] go ahead and purchase it and we did the
[2:05] environmental
[2:06] and we ran into the title work because
[2:08] it was in that trust Joe P. The seniors
[2:11] trust and it took forever. Both names
[2:13] are on there and they never done
[2:14] anything.
[2:15] >> Okay.
[2:16] >> And now it's all totally
[2:17] >> It's all taken care of. So, now both of
[2:18] them have to sign cuz they both are 50%
[2:21] owners of the property or whatever.
[2:23] >> The estate has to sign it.
[2:25] >> The old Santa
[2:27] or the estate junior.
[2:29] >> Okay.
[2:29] >> Gross or the Joe P. And the trust.
[2:32] >> Got it. Okay.
[2:33] >> That's confusing to me how you have to
[2:35] sign like that.
[2:35] >> Yeah, I just wasn't Okay.
[2:38] Um
[2:40] >> So, then
[2:41] you sent this thing to um Tom. You want
[2:44] to go over all this stuff? You might as
[2:46] well.
[2:47] >> Well, one question I have which Tom may
[2:50] or may
[2:51] Is does
[2:54] Barry or the estate have an existing
[2:57] survey on the property?
[3:01] » Didn't ask them.
[3:03] Can I ask I can ask that. They'll give it to us if they have it,
[3:06] I'm sure.
[3:07] I don't know. I never checked with the
[3:09] county either.
[3:11] >> Well, county wouldn't
[3:12] >> The equalization might have one on file.
[3:15] And if you turned it in
[3:17] >> Good. I'm going to doubt somebody would
[3:19] have turned a survey in.
[3:21] >> You know, I I was over by there. There
[3:23] might
[3:25] In the I don't know what that would be
[3:27] the old Well, save us some money cuz I
[3:28] do believe we have to have a survey.
[3:30] You're right. I was I there's some state
[3:32] >> That's the reason I'm asking the
[3:33] question cuz I would want a survey on it
[3:35] before we start putting a building on
[3:37] it.
[3:37] >> Oh, no. Yeah, I know. I I agree with
[3:38] that. I can ask them now. Yeah, I can
[3:41] call and ask them. So, yeah, I'll just
[3:43] kind of go through this stuff where he
[3:44] marked all this stuff. So, the period
[3:46] inspection period effective until five
[3:48] He thought it should be 30 days.
[3:50] I had it as 10. That's because we've
[3:54] already done the environmental. I don't
[3:56] know what else we'd want to look at.
[3:58] It's up to you guys.
[4:00] Um
[4:03] Seller shall make the property available
[4:04] at reasonable hours to the buyer's
[4:06] inspections. They've been over there 10
[4:08] times. You want to go look at it some
[4:09] more?
[4:09] >> Well, it's vacant. I mean, it's not we
[4:11] got to be in the house.
[4:13] >> Well, and seeing how it was already
[4:15] under a contract and the the reason it
[4:17] didn't
[4:18] there was no sales because of the loan.
[4:21] And he'd like to change the closing date
[4:23] at least 21 days before the closing date
[4:25] of this buy-sell which I don't know why.
[4:27] >> Wait, what What are you saying that
[4:29] >> Did you have to give this?
[4:31] >> Oh, this is you're looking at So, yeah,
[4:33] these are time stamps. Sorry. On here.
[4:36] His suggestion was that he felt that the
[4:40] original document which shows three days
[4:44] uh should be increased to, you know, 10
[4:47] days and that we should have
[4:50] 21 days
[4:52] uh you know, give the title company give
[4:55] us time to get get the seller time to
[4:58] get the title insurance and those
[5:00] documents back to us. We felt 21 days
[5:04] that we should have it in our possession
[5:06] before the closing date, which is how he
[5:08] came up with backdating it to December
[5:10] 1st. Now, these are just his
[5:12] suggestions.
[5:13] We don't have to accept them if we don't
[5:16] have to.
[5:16] >> don't know why you need My point is I
[5:18] don't know why you need all that time. I
[5:19] don't know what we're doing or what
[5:20] we're not doing.
[5:20] >> The only reason you need 10 days to look
[5:22] over the title work is if you wanted
[5:24] time to look over the title work and he
[5:26] needs 10 days.
[5:28] I mean
[5:29] >> Okay, if you have title insurance, do
[5:31] you need that?
[5:32] >> we look at it and we got a problem
[5:33] >> Right.
[5:34] >> And what can you I just
[5:36] >> I mean, can't when the title company do
[5:38] that?
[5:39] >> Well, no, wait. No, what what he's
[5:41] changing is he's saying, "Okay, once the
[5:43] title work's done and we receive it."
[5:45] >> Right.
[5:46] He's saying
[5:48] we should take 10 days
[5:51] to look it over.
[5:55] You know, to me it's like 10 minutes.
[5:58] >> Um okay. I'm going to be in line that
[6:00] we've already changed the by laws and
[6:01] things.
[6:01] >> Well, but I mean, you're going to know
[6:03] if there's a title issue or not right
[6:04] away.
[6:05] >> Well, that's what they discovered the
[6:06] last time was an issue on the title of
[6:08] P&D, correct?
[6:09] >> Yeah.
[6:10] >> Seller shall provide the buyer a
[6:12] seller's expense title insurance seller.
[6:16] We'll order a title within 5 days
[6:20] after Okay, seller shall provide
[6:23] the title commitment to buyer at least
[6:25] 21 days before closing.
[6:29] Those are just suggestions.
[6:38] » I'm going to take every defer to you cuz
[6:40] you I I don't I've bought very few
[6:41] properties in my life.
[6:42] >> Well, I think
[6:43] >> 6 8 10
[6:44] >> rather than debating terms right now, I
[6:46] mean, are we in a
[6:48] I mean, okay.
[6:49] >> How about I read agreement with the
[6:51] $81,000 purchase price?
[6:52] >> And purchasing it. Yeah, I guess that's
[6:54] the big thing.
[6:56] I mean, I'm in favor of it.
[6:58] >> Is there a motion? Do we have a motion?
[6:59] >> We don't have a motion.
[7:00] >> Well,
[7:02] I would make a motion a motion to
[7:04] discuss it. Go ahead and make a motion.
[7:05] >> Yeah, we can make it and then discuss
[7:06] it.
[7:07] >> Right.
[7:07] >> I would make the motion to approve the
[7:09] purchase
[7:11] of the property. There's a number for
[7:13] like you want to
[7:14] >> There's a parcel
[7:15] >> The biggest it's the center of three on
[7:17] the front page.
[7:18] >> 11-250-001-00
[7:23] » Now they can see it perfect.
[7:26] Um
[7:27] >> See the small print.
[7:28] >> 5111 yet tax ID 250-001-00
[7:32] >> Yes.
[7:32] >> That prove that tax ID number. Um
[7:37] for $81,000.
[7:39] Okay, so there's a second.
[7:41] >> I'll support.
[7:41] >> Okay, thank you. Now discussion.
[7:44] Sure we can
[7:45] >> glance I must say.
[7:45] >> So
[7:49] I know.
[7:52] » Yes, Mike.
[7:55] » So for agreeing to the purchase, I mean
[7:58] how do we then
[8:04] decide on the terms of the agreement?
[8:07] I mean like for instance
[8:10] what was proposed is like we're talking about the title work
[8:15] and that I mean how do we
[8:16] >> Well, maybe the motion should have been
[8:18] to accept the purchase agreement as
[8:20] written or accept the purchase agreement
[8:21] as revised by the attorney.
[8:23] >> Yeah. We can do it that way, but
[8:25] >> I don't I don't think we really need all
[8:27] of them.
[8:27] >> There's only one.
[8:28] >> Can I amend my
[8:29] >> I'm good.
[8:30] >> Yeah, as written.
[8:32] As as written before the attorney might
[8:34] Okay, is there a Who's second? Adam,
[8:35] would you still second that motion?
[8:37] Okay, so
[8:39] For further discussion, I'm only going
[8:40] to bring this up cuz someone's going to
[8:42] ask. I we asked I asked the county about
[8:44] the piece across the street
[8:46] >> Right.
[8:46] >> like five different times now and then
[8:49] yet I've never got a price back.
[8:51] >> Well, but our subcommittee
[8:53] >> I know.
[8:54] >> So we had a subcommittee that was
[8:56] originally looking at the township's
[8:58] property
[9:01] for a variety of reasons
[9:03] decided neither one was really a good
[9:05] fit. And the reason the subcommittee
[9:08] doesn't like the county's piece of
[9:10] property is it's too close to the water
[9:13] so it doesn't get rid of
[9:15] >> That issue.
[9:16] that people have been
[9:18] concerned about. And by doing
[9:22] >> And
[9:22] >> Yes, it's kind of like what originally
[9:24] was going to happen two plus years ago.
[9:27] >> Right.
[9:27] >> And it's real close to where it was.
[9:30] >> I mean we would have bought this
[9:31] property by now if the county if the
[9:33] county hadn't have said we're We're to
[9:35] >> I No, that's what
[9:36] >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
[9:37] >> like I said,
[9:39] you
[9:39] >> guys were like at that one meeting where
[9:42] >> But I just thought you should be aware
[9:43] of the fact that I have yet to get a
[9:45] price back, so it's irrelevant.
[9:46] >> And it moves us further
[9:48] It's a bigger piece of property. There's
[9:50] more room for a storage building or
[9:51] whatever.
[9:51] >> Absolutely.
[9:52] >> It's a better site. Yes.
[9:54] >> All the way around.
[9:55] >> And that is two meetings ago as the lane
[9:57] said, they're going to start on the
[9:58] charger $600 a month.
[10:01] That's uh 7,200 a year. So, it won't
[10:04] take many years to pay for the property,
[10:06] right?
[10:07] >> I I just
[10:08] >> Might as well own it.
[10:09] >> I think it's
[10:10] the best solution that we could come up
[10:14] with at this point. My only
[10:17] question and um that's part of why I
[10:19] asked for the survey.
[10:20] And I know we talked about at the sub
[10:22] committee meeting like what size
[10:24] building we thought we would need.
[10:26] >> Yeah.
[10:26] >> I mean, I don't know what
[10:29] I don't
[10:32] I'm bad with looking at something
[10:34] saying, "Oh, yeah, it's big enough."
[10:35] It's just like the depth issue for
[10:37] building something like that or
[10:39] >> Oh, we got plenty. We can build a huge
[10:41] building. We can build a build big
[10:42] enough to store boats for everybody.
[10:43] >> But with being able to turn or like go
[10:46] in for
[10:47] cuz we don't really have to turn. We
[10:48] could just pull up for recycling and
[10:50] back out.
[10:51] >> I think we should
[10:52] spend a little bit of money. If you
[10:53] don't have a survey, I would suggest you
[10:54] need a survey.
[10:55] >> And hire someone to come up with
[10:56] >> Have Spicer or somebody come up with
[10:58] just a conceptual master plan and say,
[11:00] "Here's Here's what we want to
[11:01] accomplish, you know, and room for a
[11:03] building." I mean
[11:04] Yeah. And maybe maybe a fire station
[11:06] goes there or something. Who knows? I
[11:07] mean, it could be any number of things.
[11:09] >> And I agree with that. It's just
[11:11] kind of like a quick look. We got the
[11:13] room there, right?
[11:14] >> And I honestly there's room. I was
[11:16] thinking like in my head maybe make a
[11:18] uh another sub committee to kind of take
[11:21] a look at what would best fit, you know,
[11:23] get a kind of an eye on what would fit in
[11:27] there or something.
[11:28] >> think what if they got a hold of a
[11:29] survey and MSU do some conceptual
[11:32] drawings for the village on some without
[11:34] charging. Someone at MSU
[11:36] >> sidewalks they did stuff for them.
[11:39] >> Yeah, that's
[11:40] I think that's their citizen planner
[11:42] group or something like that.
[11:44] >> I'd rather work with an engineering firm
[11:45] that does site things all the time. They
[11:47] can whip that out.
[11:48] >> Right.
[11:48] >> Quick. No one can do that.
[11:50] >> Okay.
[11:51] >> We don't even know what size storage
[11:52] barn, we don't know what kind of
[11:53] construction, we don't we don't have any
[11:55] of that.
[11:55] >> Well, yeah, we were throwing around, you
[11:57] know, talking to Beck and, you know, how
[11:59] much stuff is we were throwing around
[12:01] the size because we'd rather build it
[12:03] bigger.
[12:04] >> Yeah, well, at some point we're going to
[12:05] have a truck. The parks department's
[12:07] going to have a truck and they're going
[12:08] to want to park a mower there and they
[12:10] don't know what
[12:10] >> The fire department boat
[12:12] >> They're going to, you know, maybe you
[12:13] want a bathroom there. I mean, is that
[12:14] where, you know, the parks people are
[12:16] going to work out? There's all kinds of
[12:17] different things that
[12:18] >> The aerials is what we're doing.
[12:20] >> Yeah, the fire department boat maybe
[12:21] goes in there and
[12:23] >> Unless and but some like you said, you
[12:25] hire a firm, get some thought process
[12:27] into this, not just jump into something
[12:28] and put a building up and say, "Oh,
[12:30] >> We should have done it."
[12:30] >> Right.
[12:31] >> But I mean, even if we even if we
[12:33] temporarily relocate the recycling
[12:36] there, that can always be moved around
[12:37] because it's just gravel. It's not
[12:39] >> No, it's not a big deal.
[12:40] >> It'd be nice to know do you want the
[12:42] recycling
[12:42] >> And it's our gravel.
[12:43] >> And it's and we can put a nice fence
[12:44] around
[12:45] >> Not anymore.
[12:46] >> No, we put it on our land.
[12:47] >> Well, that is our land.
[12:48] >> The next amount of gravel would be on
[12:50] us.
[12:50] >> Yeah, but we could put a like a little
[12:52] bit of a berm and a fence up so it would
[12:54] be hidden, no one would see it. And then
[12:55] when if it is windy and they go to dump
[12:57] it,
[12:57] >> The one the first thing is do you want
[12:59] the building by the road and have the
[13:00] recycle trailers behind it or do you
[13:02] want the recycle trailers out by the
[13:03] road and the building sit So, with all
[13:05] those
[13:05] >> Yeah, I think that's where the engineer
[13:07] helps us.
[13:09] >> Most likely hidden from view so it looks
[13:11] nice.
[13:12] >> Yeah.
[13:14] >> And and the stuff doesn't go flying into
[13:15] the creek or the
[13:18] >> And it's like I'll have to I'll have to
[13:19] put a fence up around the whole thing
[13:20] anyway. So,
[13:22] >> But so,
[13:22] >> And I have to put
[13:23] >> I think it's a really good deal. I mean,
[13:24] it's like 8,000 under or something the
[13:27] assessed value. It's very good price.
[13:30] It would be worth it just to pull it up
[13:32] just to look at the depth.
[13:34] >> Yeah, I don't I don't
[13:39] » I got I have an unex-
[13:41] >> I don't know like I don't know if
[13:43] >> That's so small.
[13:49] » I have a measurement wheel in the back
[13:50] of my truck.
[13:51] >> Yeah, Ronald brought that.
[13:53] >> What's that?
[13:54] >> answers
[13:56] >> That's all right.
[13:57] >> business
[13:58] >> You know what current site's like and
[13:59] >> Yeah, not at this
[14:00] >> There's a motion and a second and
[14:02] discussion but we're not yet at public
[14:04] comment.
[14:05] >> I know what it is.
[14:08] Okay, what about anything else? What
[14:10] then the way it's presented without all
[14:12] the time extension which I believe we
[14:14] don't need but we and we do have done
[14:16] the environmental that came back clean.
[14:19] We paid last time and it had to be part
[14:21] of the title search to find the issue
[14:23] with the pianta.
[14:25] >> rest Greg
[14:27] >> Oh, you guys probably did have title
[14:28] work.
[14:29] >> That's what I'm saying. That's That's
[14:30] how we didn't pay anything.
[14:31] >> I don't know if we had title work or if
[14:33] they just discovered it before it got to
[14:34] that
[14:35] >> I think I think Barry discovered it cuz
[14:37] he never took care of it when Joe died.
[14:40] I think that's what happened.
[14:41] >> would put that out quick.
[14:44] >> I would think they would.
[14:47] More discussion? If not, I'm going to
[14:49] take a roll.
[14:50] >> Make it roll call vote.
[14:52] >> What now?
[14:53] >> No, keep going.
[14:54] >> Okay, Cindy?
[14:56] >> I don't like it that you want Oh, and
[14:57] then said no.
[14:58] >> We need to amend the budget or
[15:00] It's all we can do it.
[15:01] >> You can't do it at this meeting.
[15:07] Um yes.
[15:08] >> Okay, now yes. Ed? Yes. Jennifer?
[15:11] >> Yes.
[15:12] >> David? Yes.
[15:14] Okay, yeah, we can't amend the budget
[15:15] this meeting so
[15:17] >> Wow, when did we have this issue, Stan?
[15:20] >> We're going to have to revise. Do we
[15:21] have anything else on
[15:22] >> This has been a
[15:23] >> I've only been on the board a month.
[15:41] and I have