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So this morning um we are going or this
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with the uh privilege of the floor. Um
just so we all know we have three

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minutes uh to have respectful
commentary. I'm going to open the floor

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to Lewis from

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» Good evening. I'm Caroline Williams from
Sunni Onian and this is Lachland Square

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facilities manager. About a year ago, we
came and talked about our solar project

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that will be happening around campus and
gave a presentation to the board. We're

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here because we finally got the state
approval and construction will be

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happening. So, we provided you with the
most recent um solar panel layout so you

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have it and a sheet with contact
information because as we start

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construction on West Street, you may be
getting phone calls about noise,

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traffic, the kinds of things that come
with construction. And Lachlan here is

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the person that if you get any calls,
you can direct them to about project.

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So, just kind of a quick update to let
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forward with that. So, if you have any
questions, please feel free to reach out

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to me.
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» How much did this change from the
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» Um, we pushed it up the hill a little
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the road um and pushed it a little
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» But the the actual kilowatts and the
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» pretty much the same.
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Um, can I can we get an electronic copy
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» Yes, absolutely. Y I can email that to
you guys. And if you have any questions,

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feel free to reach out to myself or
reach out to Lachlan and I'm going to be

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driving you home, but if you need me to
come back for other things, just let me

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know.
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» Great. Thanks.
>> Um, and now if anyone else uh would like

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to speak, uh, please let us know.
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» was I supposed to talk about the natural
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» Um, sure. We could talk if you want.
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» Okay. So, I'm Teresa Sesi and I'm here
for Destination Elantre and we're doing

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a children friendly um summer festival
at important park this weekend and we

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were hoping that um the town to be their
way to sponsor us the use of the uh

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buildings there.
So, anybody the there's all kinds of

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children friendly things that do not
cost him anything. Adults of course do

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pay for their food like well they pay
for food um and social [clears throat]

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really they pay for food and any vendors
that they want but face paint the clown

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all of that is totally free for the
children. No bounce houses.

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» Oh, mechanical bowl is further pretty

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with the cast time. That would be so if
anybody has any questions, just let me

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know.
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» All right.
I'll give you a [laughter]

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[clears throat]
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waiver for the fees? Yes.
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[clears throat]
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» good evening. My name is Rich Haron. I
know there's been discussion at the

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board level and elsewhere about the lack
of year-round single family housing in

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the town of Oniana. I want to call to
your attention that there were two

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projects for year-round single family
housing the town of Oniana. Both of

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which were abandoned and they were
abandoned because of the high cost

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imposed by the town of Oniana in
connection to roads, streets and

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sidewalks.
[clears throat] Um so the town policies

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have actually mitigated against there
being uh actually brand new uh single

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family housing. The consolidated funding
application has an avenue where a

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municipality can apply for funding to um
underwrite the cost of or help assist

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with the cost of uh infrastructure in uh
single family developments and even

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other style developments. Also, you may
be aware that there's been federal

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legislation recently that was passed and
signed into law or became law. And uh

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that a cornerstone of that legislation
was to uh try to address u zoning issues

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that prevented there being affordable
housing. the town of Onana ought to look

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at its regulations in connection with
housing um as it relates to roads,

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streets, and highways and try to maybe
follow the template that the federal

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legislation has set forth. Um I
[clears throat] also want to call to

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your attention that we're in the process
now of renovating uh a home at 13

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Raymond. It's a home that had been
unoccupied for several years. It had no

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heat in it for at least two winters and
probably more. had a an unpaid water

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bill running six years. I actually
showed that home to the supervisor back

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in the winter um when we removed the
walls which found any number of

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electrical violations which miraculously
did not result in a fire but very well

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and very easily could have. There were
also any number of roof leaks. Um there

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was [clears throat] mold in there. We
had to we just had to gut the whole

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thing. Um, I would I want you to know
that if there weren't an opportunity to

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rent to baseball, we would never get a
return on investment. And even then,

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it's going to be difficult to get a
return on investment.

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Um, if you decide to eliminate
um that opportunity, then you're going

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to have lots of homes like that that are
not renovated. Um, there are others

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right on that same street that are
equally as bad. Um, one of them has a

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raccoon staring out the window at you in
a photograph that they took. So, I just

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want to make you aware of that. Also, if
you would like to see the home that

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we're renovating, just reach out to me.
I'd be happy to arrange for a viewing.

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» Uh, good evening. My name is Cindy Lair.
I live at 127 Ridge Drive um in the

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Woodland Water District. Believe that's
on the agenda tonight to talk about the

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water quality. So I lived in my house
there for 17 years and about two years

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ago I started experiencing some water
quality issues. Um this is my second

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time attending a board meeting. I
attended a meeting last year. So I

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started experiencing the issues about
two years ago noticing brown brown water

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and a water pitcher filling up my
bathtub with some brown water off color

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water. Um so it was about the same time
that the town decommissioned the

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existing well and puff station because
of there was a risk of that collapsing

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because of um soil undermining and the
same time as the southside water mane

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projects. I know that the town has
installed an auto flusher and they do

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regular water mane flushings but that's
not addressing the problem to address

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the contaminants in our drinking water.
Um it's my understanding that Lamont

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engineers is no longer involved. I'm a
civil engineer and I work in facilities

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management and I know how long projects
can take to execute from design

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procurement to awarding the construction
contract and I don't see any repairs

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happening in the next year. Um I my
question is do you have any funding for

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this work? Have you hired design
consultant? Is there a budget timeline

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timeline? I'd like to request a special
meeting with the Woodland Water uh

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district residents with the mayor, the
town board and the head of the water

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department to see what the next steps
are and the timeline for England

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mutation. Uh so right now you have a
moratorum on data centers to to evaluate

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environmental environmental impacts. So
I feel like this is an environmental

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impact and it's been going on for two
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you live out there too. Me too.
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with you.
>> So I have some pictures. This is my pool

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that I just filled up brand new. This is
what the water looks like. Same with the

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bathtub. I haven't uh drank the water in
about two years. I've been buying

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drinking water for 2 years. So, I'll
just leave these up here for you if you

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want to have some around. Thanks. And
then we're getting ridiculous high water

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bills for ground water, which was
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unacceptable.

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» Yeah. What if you wanted to speak just
so we all do speak up one at a time, but

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please let us know.
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because
Yeah. Yeah. Just please. Yeah. Yeah. So,

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everyone can hear. Thank you.
I'm Pam Horn. I live at 110 Anchor. So,

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in the past, I've lived there for like
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I haven't had a pool in many, many, many
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was outrageous. And this year, and I
have like less people living in my

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house, and we're still having water, the
brown water issue in the tubs when it's

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being um ran in the showers. Like she
said, we can't we can't even drink the

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the water.
So like when is things going to get

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resolved with this?
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» Yeah.
>> When you're done, I just want to make

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sure you're done.
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» So I'll just answer you know everyone at
the same time. Uh so uh you know when I

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was made aware of this uh again two
years three years is way too long in my

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opinion. Uh and so this administration
uh has made it his priority. And so we

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enacted a two about two months ago we
enacted a specialized emergency task

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force uh who have been working on this
issue. And so, uh, the members include

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our our new lead, um, contracting, town
engineer, Tigo County, uh, planning, uh,

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director is involved. Um, our water
departments, many board members, our

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highway superintendent. Uh and so where
we're at now for that issue is is that

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we're um uh we just got a quote to
address a temporary issue of how you

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know again we're just trying to chip
away at any way of how we can remediate

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it quickly. And so we just got that
today. Uh and so we're going to move

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forward with that um uh to hopefully see
if that would fix you know at least

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something temporarily for at least some
if not all. uh but we are also um uh

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pretty much like 99% ready for an RFP to
go out to address um uh the issues at a

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larger scale. So then they could provide
us with um a uh kind of like a next step

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plan by before the end of the year. Uh
and then um uh how they will address it

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immediately and then long term. Uh
because a lot of the issues uh that our

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engineer and all involved have seen is
that what the landscape of the pipes

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from from development that was done
doesn't match um what we have on file.

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So now we essentially have to start all
over with, you know, getting, you know,

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the pipes and the valves and all those
kinds. Again, I'm not the expert by no

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means. So they're going to uh do that.
Uh and then that is going to set us up

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for the next stage uh is to replace the
pipes, right? So try to figure out what

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the problem is and also replace all the
pipes that the board has had funding for

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for a couple of years now or a year uh
uh to do that. So right now we have

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about four 4.2 2 million uh that we
received a couple years ago. Uh and then

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we applied for almost another 900,000 uh
with county department um uh Atgo County

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Planning Department to help offset those
costs. Uh so that's kind of where we're

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at right now. Happy to do a special
meeting or talk to anyone at any time

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about this um with the task force as
well. Uh but that is um where we're at

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uh with that directly. Uh so hopefully I
believe the the uh quote we received

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today says to start if by the end of
August if not completed it by the end of

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August again I haven't read the details
but [clears throat] that's just to try

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to see if I can um remediate it quickly
uh and then continue on with all the

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other sites.
>> So William Morio 18 drive like Cindy

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said this is my second time being at a
board meeting. Uh the last time I was

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here was for the same exact thing two
years ago when uh then acting supervisor

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Hollerin dil diligently worked with
everybody that was in that neighborhood

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to get the funding that you've had for
two years but nothing's been done.

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Nobody's done anything. We're getting
outrageous water bills as Pam has said

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and everybody else here will attest to
will show you his filter that in 3

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minutes turns disgustingly brown. We
will show you our our bills for the

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water that we have to purchase because
we have to drink the filters we have to

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put in our refrigerators or anything
else in our house, our water filters.

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And nobody hears you, Patricia, Greg,
the only two that were here two years

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ago. Nothing was done. Brett had it set
up that it was going to be taken care

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of. He came, he visited the people
there. He had talked to everybody. You

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looked at what was wrong with this
problem. You contacted the proper

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people. And now your answer is, "We'll
do a survey and we'll figure things

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out." That's not good enough for the
people that are here. If you'd like to

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come over and have a drink, come over,
have a drink. I'll pour it right through

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the faucet. Any one of you, I'll go I'll
go home and get it to you.

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[clears throat] If you'd like, if you
want my water bill to be through the

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roof like it is, I'll bring 200 gallons.
Let's bring it to the Allstar Village

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and let them have it. All right. Let's
let's we're bringing people into the

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community. Let them have dirty and
disgusting. But instead, we make videos

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with them saying, "Hey, look at us. Look
at town of not our water bills. Don't go

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to Angel Heights. You don't want to do
that." Yeah. [clears throat]

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» And then we're replacing our hot water
heaters and and it's on to us. So that's

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our cost
>> just so that we follow processes one at

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a time. Um and uh let's make sure that
everyone has a turn as well. Thank you.

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Uh so just to answer again, you know,
completely unacceptable by any means and

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you know, but this board uh is is is
moving forward uh with that uh uh as

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well. So um so when do you expect a
solution? I I I honestly I can't answer

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that. I can't answer that. We That's why
we hired the experts to do that. Um that

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we hired again two years ago. What was
that?

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» That we hired the same experts from two
years ago. Um

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» again, I don't know anything about the
plan. I would have asked the previous

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board members to jump in and Brett since
he you know shared that he's very

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involved in that previously. Um but um
but that's you know that's currently the

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plan that the task force has incited. um
all the board me I mean three of the

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board me four of us were at that meeting
uh the last meeting to determine those

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next steps um uh and so that's where
we're at with that but even if we were

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to replace the pipes I mean that could
take several years um as well but we're

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trying to make sure that we have an
emergency plan while we're planning to

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replace the pipes as well so we're doing
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said
>> maybe we should

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maybe we shouldn't be paying for Maybe
that's a good idea.

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» Yeah, I mean we the board can certainly
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happen.
>> We're not using we're not using our

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waterway as it's intended to be.
>> Um I wanted to say and it's not a survey

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but there's a recently formed will
tasked us with doing that. The woodland

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water um district um
uh committee [clears throat] we're

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addressing it in particular we have Alex
Herman engineer. he has come up with a

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request for proposal. Um, and it's for a
diagnosis, a quick diagnosis as quick as

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we can. Um, we gave a date to approve
that would go out to bid uh an request

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for proposal and then we would approve
it. Uh, hopefully um and we can fast

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track getting a diagnosis done for your
um water

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uh to figure out the origin. Uh,
constantly it's being flushed, checked.

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Please let Jared Hoteling the water
operator know if he doesn't know that

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you have brown water because he's
running like in putting out fires. He's

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just keep track of where it is and it's
it's a mystery that we're trying to

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piece the puzzle together. But hopefully
this request for proposal to get a

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diagnosis will give us a quicker

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» sir. Sir, hold on. Just hold on.
>> She's asking she's asking a question.

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» Hold on. She's still talking.
>> Okay. I just wanted to make she maybe

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she asked a question. So
>> sir, hold on.

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» Yeah, I appreciate that. So finish and
then you can start. Thank you.

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» But please let uh please let him know.
You can call Nicole or Jared. Just give

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the address, give the name just so they
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they they're running out. Like I said,
they're trying their best to put out

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fires and they've been reaching out to
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but let's hope and pray this is what we
believe will give us the answer of the

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diagnosis. Um and this was just uh
reviewed by the committee will sat in on

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that as well and we all uh fasttracked
it as quickly as we could with dates so

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we could get to the bottom of it to get
to an answer because uh you know we're

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just doing the best we can. Thank you.
Okay, points then. Number one, then what

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was what did we waste our money on two
years ago when they diagnosed the

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problem? That's my first question. And
number two is to the people here that

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live in that area. How many people have
had water in the last two ground water

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in the last two weeks? That'll show you
your there's your your people telling

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you what's going on in their their
neighborhood. It happens every single

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day or at least once or twice a week.
Some people have it consistently, other

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people have it intermittently, but it's
happening all the time. Yeah. So, for

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those again that are here that may have
not contacted our our Jared, our our

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water director, please contact him and
let him know so he can um uh you know

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have that on his uh itinerary to look at
uh check out maybe flushing whatever it

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is. But if he doesn't know that your
house has ground water, right, then he's

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not able to determine that as we are
looking at all the diagnosis and all the

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possibilities. So, please just let him
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Good.
>> So, do you think that this task force

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can send out a letter to everybody in
the Woodland Water District to collect

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that information? And then I am going to
follow up with Alex Herman and um Jared

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about setting up that special meeting
maybe after you initiate your study,

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your diagnosis.
So I'm happy to like I mean they I'm I'm

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happy to enact that and and do a special
meeting

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because I'm going to do that right to do
that anytime and honestly meet with

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anyone uh talk with anyone anytime. Uh
so we can certainly do that um as well

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and keep you all updated um and send a
letter out. Um I wish you had a better

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way of communicating like more directly
like a like an immediate like text

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message you know thing or something but
uh uh we will figure that all out though

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shortly. Okay.
>> Um who do we talk to about adjusting our

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water bill then or discussing why it's
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Who do I who do I talk to about?
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uh and um she will um share that with us
uh and then we will discuss that as a

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board next step.
But I do want to say I think a lot of

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the um I think a lot of the things with
regarding the high water bills too is

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that now u many of us myself included we
all have gotten um updated meters and so

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those meters are um not as they're a lot
more uh efficient versus what maybe was

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like being rated at 3 years ago two
years ago. So that could be the problem

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uh and and why we're seeing the
difference. Obviously, William Ward is

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in a whole different situation with
their word of use and being able to use

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it period. Uh, but that could I know a
lot of others have seen that change

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because of the manageers too.

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» I [clears throat] just want to make a
couple points. Um, when Brett was the

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interim supervisor,
him and I, um, Pete Andrews, probably a

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lot of people know Pete Andrews who was
our water operator for many years.

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So, [clears throat]

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new on the board, new position for Brett
being in charge. As we found out,

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[clears throat] the drawings that we
have were not correct. So, the developer

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that developed that district didn't have
good plans. Okay. So, that's where some

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of the issues lie. When we're trying to
cut off that water tank out there, we're

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we've dug up I don't know, three times.
three times in different locations there

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to cut that off. We thought that worked
for a little while. People, we didn't

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hear from anybody. Um they bought an
auto flusher, started flushing um two of

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one in front of a car residence, then
they put one behind the car residence to

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try getting the pipe coming from both
directions. Yeah. Um both were to go off

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every night uh and every morning. Uh the
one behind the car residence was figured

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out what time they use their water so we
can put it on on a timer so it go off um

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before the morning so they could try
flushing out that line. That obviously

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didn't work either. Um we also uh met
with some chemists to see if our water

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chemistry was incorrect. Uh because the
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it's possible we're in different water
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that we used previously uh it could be
causing um slop off the pipes. Um we

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also looked at the fact that we reverse
the flow of the water when we switched

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uh wells which is a very likely uh cause
because you have water going in a

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direction for so many years and things
do build up on the inside of those pipes

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especially because of the type of pipe.
It's a transite pipe which is a concrete

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uh speestous built pipe. Um it it it
probably if it was an 8 in pipe it

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probably down to six at this point maybe
less. Um now you reverse that things are

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going to start coming off and based on
different flows if a lot of people are

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using them more things might start
coming off as the flow increases. We

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also have higher water pressure because
of the new wells and the new pumps.

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Before we were the old Woodland Water
District was a very archaic system. Um I

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was quite shocked when I went to visit
it um that we were serving public water

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from that system. Ironically, we were
getting cleaner water. Um however,

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nevertheless, we went down all those
things and spent as you're aware uh we

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did we we got uh New York Rural Water to
come out and uh they came up with a plan

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for directional flushing uh because the
flushing had not been done regularly

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which may have slowly caused this
problem over the years. without

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[clears throat] regular flushing. Uh
when you flush you the idea is to pull

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all those things out of the pipes. Um
and it wasn't being done regularly for

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many years. So the buildup was there and
um we so they came up with a plan of how

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to directional flush and get it out of
the low points. But again, we don't know

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exactly where all the low points are
because those maps are absurdly wrong.

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Uh those are the maps we were given uh
from the developers of Angelikes. Uh,

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and that's all we can go by because
they're transite pipes. Locating them,

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usually you use a water locator with
metal. You can't locate concrete. Um,

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you can get a good idea. Uh, they didn't
use tracers in all the areas. So, we

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were, you know, we're kind of clueless.
We're shooting, you know, we're shooting

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wine in that respect. So, those those
are what we did. And and having that

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time, we also uh were able to secure
$4.2 million for materials for um new

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pipes and another
I thought it was a million from Sego

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County. Um
>> yeah. Well, we're still waiting to hear

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back for that one.
>> Uh for for making it 5.2 and at the time

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Lamont had estimated the project um in
the 65 range. Uh so we were short a

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little bit, but that that wasn't the end
of the world. That's that's where we

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were effectively left off.

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» So those are the efforts. So you're
aware there's things that have been

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going on that people did not see. um
such as, you know, trying to figure the

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water chemistry. Are are the are are the
wells set too deep? Maybe the pumps

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could be brought up a little bit to get
in a different vein of water. Um so

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there's a lot of things going on that
that were going on. Um in order to try

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to figure this out, I I personally think
the only solution now is replace the

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pipes. Um but I'm not an engineer,
>> but but I I think because you actually

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drill the pipes, we could probably do it
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» [clears throat]
>> Shane Shane Bench for the Department of

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Health. He's been out there uh working
with Alex. Um we come up with a maybe a

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shortterm solution that on Angel Drive
that we're going to put another flusher

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out there. So you might see see some
action in the next few weeks here by the

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end of August. So that might help that.
We think that's a low spot there and

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that's where it's all being collected.
So, you know, that's a hopefully another

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easier solution. Um, and then RF to go
out to actually diagnose what's going on

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um to get to the next step is critical.
Um, because if not, we're going to be

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spending all your money um on
engineering fees to replace the pipes.

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And what if we don't what if we replace
all the pipes and we don't have that's

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not the issue. What if it's the wells?
So it's it's a whole it's a launch that

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we've been meaning for every two months.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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» And I think that you know the ultimate
goal is obviously we replace the pipes

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but again like Joe said we it all can
happen and then we don't even know if

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that's going to fix it, right? And we
just wasted all that money. Uh because

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as they all said, you know, we had we
none of us have the documents for uh the

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plans that are correct. It wasn't done.
You know, we don't know. And so we need

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to understand what's there, what's
wrong, making sure we're fixing it

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correctly the first time. Uh and so
we're not in this situation. And so we

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have to have all of these things ready
to go. Um uh and um you know, again, I

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if I was in living where you are and
have the same thing, I wish it was done

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two years ago. But this is just, you
know, what we uh um are faced with now

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um of this administration and we're
tackling it as quickly as we can with

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the resources we have. And I know we
all, you know, contacted everyone within

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the county, federal, statewide for help
and services. Um uh um uh so you know,

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your frustrations are are heard. I I
hear them all the time. the ecos that

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called or email I spoke to. Um, and I
share that always with those who could

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possibly help. Um, uh, so that's kind of
where we're at now. Um, and hopefully,

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you know, the fix by the end of the
month, you know, maybe we'll see some uh

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better days.
>> My name is Thomas Patterson. I live in

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103 Woodland, which is the complete
opposite end of the neighborhood as

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these people live on. And I here's a
water filter I change out from my house.

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Once a month I change this out. I had um
she has a photo of it. It was 3 minutes

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which is approximately seven gallons in
change. It'll look just like that. Um so

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like as far as contacting when you
touched on we have to contact the water

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department. You can just assume it's the
entire neighborhood.

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» It's every every single person I've ever
spoken to.

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» Okay. Um, it's not just an isolated
incident like that's a low point over

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there. It's the entire It's everyone.
>> Yeah. Why is it on us? I'm along this

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way. Why is it on us to have to keep
reaching out? We already reached out two

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years ago and said this is an issue in
this neighborhood. If you don't hear

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from us for a while, it's probably
because we're frustrated. It's been 2

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years and nothing's happened and we
don't know what's going on. So, it

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shouldn't be on us to constantly be
reaching out saying, "I have brown

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water." It's every day. It's the whole
neighborhood. you've already

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communicated.
>> Yeah. So that again that wasn't

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communicated to me. I've never known it
was never told to me that it was the

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whole neighborhood. I'm happy to go
around and knock on everyone's doors and

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talk to everyone and share the
knowledge. Uh but you know it was just

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select few houses that again would what
I what was shared with me um since I've

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been here. Uh but um even so the plan is
for the whole neighborhood for the whole

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district to do that. But I'm happy to go
to every door, survey, ask um uh and and

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do that myself. So
>> has a spreadsheet if you want to look at

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it from anyone that had a complaint.
She's kept a spreadsheet since last year

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of every call and every residence that
has called. So you could ask her if she

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has a
>> but I agree with this survey would

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really help.
>> Yeah.

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» And it could be a multitude of
questions. You know, do you have a

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filter system? Is it dirty? You know,
water pressure, all that. I think

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» Yeah, we can do I think I think we'll
come up with a survey and if you guys

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don't mind emailing some of the
questions that you would like to see on

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that survey, it' be great.
>> Sir,

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» could you pass that around please?
>> Yeah, we we put in this filter system

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because of this water issue.
>> In May of 24 is when I installed the

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filter.
>> No, this is a this is a white filter.

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[clears throat]
>> Is it a charcoal filter itself?

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» No, no, no. It's just a whole house
water filter. Like you put it in, right?

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I have it right installed where it's not
charcoal, but there's

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» I know you're talking, but No, there's
no charcoal. No.

403
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,320
» And you said 103 wood.
>> Yes.

404
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:37,279
» So, I had it installed on the on the
lead side of the house. So, everything

405
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:45,279
in my house was protected because I had
just installed a new water heater

406
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:50,399
uh boiler system. And I was I my water
was um my faucets were starting to run

407
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:55,600
slow. So, I pulled out the cartridge and
they're completely like that. And so I

408
00:30:53,279 --> 00:31:00,480
installed this at about five months in
and I've been, you know, 12 bucks a door

409
00:30:58,911 --> 00:31:03,760
[cough and clears throat] they go. But I
I'm just trying to protect everything in

410
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,600
my house and I'm not I'm not going to
drink that. So now the the only water

411
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,600
that I ever drink out of my house is
coming from my fridge as well, which is

412
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,200
filtered again.
>> How long was it?

413
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:19,871
» That that was one month.
>> Okay.

414
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,480
Sometimes it's two weeks,
[clears throat]

415
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:27,120
» but generally it's about I mean what and
the only reason why I swap it out is cuz

416
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:30,399
like the water just becomes a trickle.
>> This is we changed the filter and this

417
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,960
was 3 minutes [clears throat] after
>> this is 3 minutes after I changed that

418
00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:39,360
filter. And just water.
>> Just so you know as well I have asked

419
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:44,799
everyone who can give us money that you
know with about the situation letting

420
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:50,320
them know hey can we cover
emergency money for their appliances all

421
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:53,440
these other things but in their eyes
under the guidelines it's not it's not

422
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,760
falling but I will continue to advocate
and ask for the money and keep pushing.

423
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:01,840
That's three minutes.
>> And the whole thing I can't do is all

424
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,919
the testing get it gets tested every
day.

425
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:08,080
» I was three minutes after
>> and you know all the testing comes back

426
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:13,519
with no damage.
>> What's causing it? What is it? You I

427
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:15,039
lost my
call.

428
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:20,000
» I know.
>> I'm sorry that I have to call her. I

429
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,600
feel horrible beating her up. She's the
secretary. She shouldn't have to feel

430
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:30,399
these damn calls.
>> I know. So, I came over. I picked up the

431
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:35,760
water samples. I took them to my
neighbor. Although I think Jared should

432
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:41,440
have done it, but I did it for him. I
took the samples. I brought them back

433
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:47,760
over. And I get a email from Nicole, my
friend. Not from Jared, who says, "The

434
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:52,640
water's fine to drink. He still hasn't
watched me." I don't [laughter]

435
00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:59,519
I don't know what he does.
So, so just so you I did aderondic

436
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:05,327
testing which is out of Alman or
Saratoga area do an absolute full

437
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:09,200
spectrum test of the water
[clears throat] and they said it came

438
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,720
back safe to drink. Now Tiffany Carr
brought me a bottle of water from her

439
00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:16,799
house uh which I've had next to my
coffee maker for almost two years. So

440
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,640
and my wife keeps saying will you please
take that damn bottle off off the

441
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:24,159
counter. I said, "Well, that's I need to
remind myself that this is what their

442
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,799
water looks like. It's not my fault."
>> Tell this gentleman when he joined your

443
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:34,320
group, they're having bad water. I mean,
you guys knew that we've been here.

444
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,760
» I don't know how you you can sit there.
So, you didn't know anything about this

445
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,440
when you came on board.
>> I I'm certainly I do not and I'm

446
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:46,159
certainly as soon as I did, we're
addressing it as a group. Um, and you

447
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,559
know, together we're doing it. Everyone
here is helping uh with it. Again, I'm

448
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:54,960
asking I've been advocating reaching out
to everyone for all emergency monies,

449
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:59,840
letting them everyone know about your
appliances, you know, um the bottled

450
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:05,120
water, everything. And and the response
I get is is that um you know, is it

451
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:10,240
unsafe to drink? Do you have boil water
advisories? And I share how dark it is

452
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:14,639
and the issues with the border, but that
under their guidelines, it doesn't

453
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:18,800
equate to an emergency. But again, I
know that it is

454
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,960
based on everything that I've heard
previously and obviously here today that

455
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:27,760
it is an emergency. But those that have
access to the resources to help us um uh

456
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:32,159
their guidelines as we say it is. And so
I will continue to advocate and share

457
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:37,520
these stories um and push for them to
you know hopefully uh assist with any

458
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:42,960
emergency funding as well. Um uh but
again, you know, this is what we're as a

459
00:34:39,839 --> 00:34:47,200
whole right now trying to do it again
emergency level and then diagnosing and

460
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:51,359
then long-term solution.
>> We should not have to pay our water

461
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:54,639
bills until this is resolved.
>> I mean, we all we can certainly discuss

462
00:34:53,119 --> 00:35:03,200
that as a board. I don't know what you
know the legalities or or um how that

463
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:07,359
works, but certainly discuss that.
$300 a year I'm buying paying for water.

464
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,240
» Exactly.
>> It's ridiculous. I'm on a fixed income.

465
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:19,359
I shouldn't have to pay your water bill
plus $300 for my bottled water.

466
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:24,720
It just I don't understand how it can go
on this long and nobody's going to get a

467
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:29,760
poop. You truly don't. you're just
jerking around and the cost of

468
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:35,680
everything else is going to go up before
you get these things started.

469
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:41,119
I just want to say I hear I hear your
frustration. Um I know I mean at least

470
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:45,119
with myself and everyone here uh is this
is an emergency with us. We are

471
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:50,400
addressing it as quickly as we can with
the resources we have. Um and we're

472
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:55,839
continue to diagnose it. Um I I think
you know hopefully this quick step uh

473
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:59,920
that that's going to be done solves the
problem the bigger problem. Uh but uh if

474
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,520
that doesn't fix it you know that the
task force is going to work on another

475
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:08,320
thing while we're doing all the other
long-term issues like we're you know all

476
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:12,320
the things that Brett shared that he him
and Joe did last year uh you know all

477
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:16,000
these things are just other ways we're
trying to chip away to figure out

478
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,800
anything while we're working towards the
long-term solution. And and as far

479
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:23,520
[clears throat] as that long-term
solution, I mean, it took me about 3 4

480
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:29,200
months just to even get a hold of anyone
at at the HUD office who oversees this

481
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:33,040
federal money uh because uh there were
no one working there because cutbacks at

482
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:38,800
the federal government. And so I had to
ask for help uh from uh um Senator Chuck

483
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,720
Schumer and Congressman Josh Riley who
got me connected with individuals uh and

484
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:48,160
getting get us all set up and ready to
go uh for that. Um uh but you know

485
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:52,560
that's the plan is to do this and then
um continuously try all these other

486
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:59,000
little steps that the group keeps you
know coming together on um while

487
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,000
ultimately replacing the pipes.

488
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,760
» And I just got to throw this out on the
board. If there's some way I I I know

489
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:13,520
the water's been tested many times, but
if there's some way that part of that

490
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:19,040
filter the the good on that filter could
be set for an analysis so we can see if

491
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:23,119
it's organic and organic and what that
chemical composition might be because

492
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:29,200
you know I mean it's kind there it's
concentrated in your small jar water

493
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,160
dissipates
it out

494
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,800
» cuz that that looks like a really good
example of what it They pick up the

495
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,760
screws.
>> It looks like that every single every

496
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:45,920
time I change it. It's the same thing.
It's like like slime almost.

497
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:49,920
» I think they pick up the water Thursday.
Is that Thursday?

498
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:54,760
» So we can get that tomorrow.
>> Tomorrow they'll be down there.

499
00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:00,736
Do you mind why we keep that?
I have plenty more coming.

500
00:38:00,081 --> 00:38:02,756
[clears throat]
[laughter]

501
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,359
» I know.
>> I have one right now. I can The one I

502
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,320
just showed you. I can swap it out right
now.

503
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:16,000
» What What size? Do you know what size
filter that is? It looks like it's under

504
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:21,359
five microns. It looks like a two micron
filter.

505
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:24,800
» And it's got a picture of that thing.
>> I'll tell you.

506
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:28,839
» I can't read it. I don't have my glasses
on. tell you what.

507
00:38:30,211 --> 00:38:32,231
[clears throat]

508
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:43,920
» So, does your RFP for the diagnosis
include as build documentation of the

509
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:49,280
existing piping infrastructure? Is that
because it probably should be?

510
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:53,680
» I we can certainly confirm with the
engineer and and and go with that. I

511
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:57,359
mean, so with that, like so, you know,
they're going to look at um like

512
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:04,560
literally everything, all the wells,
pipes, um soil, um I mean, I'm pretty

513
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,680
sure it's how things were, you know,
actually Lamont built that system, how

514
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,800
that was built,
>> right?

515
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:14,960
» You know, how how do they determine the
hook into it, how that procedure was.

516
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:19,280
We're going to look at all that.
>> Okay. Yep. It says review of available

517
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,200
drawings as built information and prior
improvement records including

518
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:28,320
documentation warehouse division storage
tape. So [clears throat] that's just so

519
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:33,599
some of the things that you you listed
are in the scope of the services. Okay.

520
00:39:33,092 --> 00:39:40,160
[clears throat]
>> Um my name is Julie Boyd. I live at 136

521
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:45,440
Angel Drive. Uh we a majority of us were
here a year ago and now I'm hearing that

522
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:49,359
only two months ago this was made an
emergency.

523
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:53,040
I do want to commend Brett for the work
that he did

524
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:58,160
» when they were switching out the pipes.
He was there for hours after they were

525
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:04,240
doing it after he worked a full-time day
job.

526
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Um, I two hours ago, probably maybe
three, sent all of you an email

527
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:17,040
with pictures from
our toilet tank,

528
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,520
» which is right here.
>> I sent everyone.

529
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,400
» And when you wipe it out,

530
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:37,280
I also
um will if you remember back in the

531
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:43,280
spring I came to Nicole's office with my
coffee reservoir which was orange.

532
00:40:41,213 --> 00:40:49,760
[clears throat] I think that all of us
have been quite patient,

533
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,760
albeit very frustrated
with

534
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:02,960
the lack of
things being done. I know you I know

535
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:08,480
that things are being done, but
it's not it's not acceptable. It's not

536
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:13,119
acceptable for the amount of money that
we are paying out for water. that is not

537
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:23,760
good. And the amount of money that we
are spending to drink water,

538
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:29,440
I I just I I I'm kind of speechless. You
might as well just double our water bill

539
00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:35,119
for what we're paying. [clears throat]
>> Maybe we should go to Maybe we should go

540
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:40,800
to the TV station. I don't know.
>> I just think that we need to make this

541
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:46,560
more of an initiative. People realize
>> Julie changed it at all.

542
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:49,920
» Julie, your email, did anyone else get
her email? I didn't get it. May it may

543
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,440
have been just because there's too many
pictures and didn't go through, but just

544
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,160
» I sent four pictures. It should have
gone through.

545
00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:58,400
» We didn't get none of us got the email.
>> Yeah. Just want to make sure you know

546
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:03,599
that.
>> Spam. Can you send it? If you send it to

547
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,160
the clerk, we can distribute it.
>> Yeah. Just want to make sure you're

548
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,280
aware that we didn't get anything.
keep track of if we didn't get it.

549
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,079
» Yeah. I just want to make sure you know
that.

550
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,560
» I just want to make sure you know that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Or you can just send it to

551
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,720
me individually and I'll make sure we
all get it or whoever Ryan um if that's

552
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:23,079
the case.
>> Um [clears throat]

553
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,079
» Teresa, it's 30.

554
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:30,319
» So for me, I'm not an engineer, but what
does RFP stand for?

555
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,240
» Oh, it's a a request a request for
proposal. So, so what'll happen is is

556
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:40,000
you know with with municip with with
municipal money you know we're bound by

557
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:45,040
uh state law. So we have to uh put out
an RFP request for proposals uh with

558
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:51,040
everything that we want the full scope
uh and then um you know other engineers

559
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:57,520
or construction individuals or some sort
of vendor or contractor then will bid on

560
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:02,880
that RFP or that project scope. uh and
then we um uh get them and then you know

561
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:06,720
we select the right person for it based
on whatever criteria that's established.

562
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:12,240
But that's what that means.
>> Okay. And I just like I said it's not

563
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:18,079
like all of us has been have been
banging on the door making a whole lot

564
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:23,440
of commotion at every board meeting.
Please know that

565
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:27,839
we are frustrated beyond frustrated. And
just because you don't hear from us

566
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:31,280
doesn't mean that
everything is hunky dory and

567
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:36,560
everything's peach and candy because
it's not. And I think we're just beyond

568
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:45,119
frustrated and we feel like we're not
being heard and it's not a priority. I

569
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:50,240
» well even though you said you made an
emergency task force for it but it's we

570
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,920
just don't feel like it's been a
priority.

571
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,359
» Yeah. I can tell you 1,000% is that I
have shared with everyone um you know

572
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,839
there have been other projects that have
come up and I and I've shared this and

573
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,680
said we can we should be focusing in on
that because Woodland doesn't have

574
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:11,280
water, right? this is our priority as a
board and so um we all here feel the

575
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:16,560
same way and understand that and so
we're going to continue to work towards

576
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:20,560
uh hopefully a quick goal of fixing this
um while we are looking at all the other

577
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:24,640
long-term goals. Uh but if one thing
isn't fixed, we're going to continuously

578
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:30,160
uh do something else. And so this has
been something we've been working on

579
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:33,920
honestly daily uh um within the task
force, but we'll continue to we're going

580
00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:37,200
to continue to do it. If it's not this
one thing that we hopefully will fix it,

581
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,720
we're going to continue to do something
else.

582
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:45,280
» Okay. And just to follow up on a comment
you made before about trying to get

583
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:50,000
communication out to people, we can
still do snail mail. There is such a

584
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,760
thing in today's technology called
automotive.

585
00:44:51,920 --> 00:45:00,480
I worked in the Omni City School
District for 25 years in the IT

586
00:44:56,720 --> 00:45:05,200
department. They you can you can you can
buy a program to put everyone's phone

587
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,680
numbers in so you can send out a call to
us.

588
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:11,359
» Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we don't have
that yet and so certainly want to look

589
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:14,800
into that. Um
>> the reverse

590
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,359
» they would No, we tried. They wouldn't
let us.

591
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:22,480
» They used it last year.
>> Big signs on the door. What door?

592
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:26,640
» Yeah. I mean that was
>> big told me we asked him to know.

593
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:30,400
because it's not about that
>> that you you guys were running around

594
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:35,760
like chickens with your head cut off. I
mean that that was just some

595
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:40,640
» Yeah, that so there are different
>> No, we we'll definitely do that. um uh

596
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:45,359
and um figure out
>> and I I guess I could say that's one of

597
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:49,760
our biggest frustrations too is just
like Sheila said,

598
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:55,839
» nobody's communicating with us and it
shouldn't be up to us to continually or

599
00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:02,319
constantly check the check the website.
Not a lot of people think of that. I

600
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:07,359
mean, we kind of feel like we're having
do they we're having to follow up on

601
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:11,680
everything and and nobody's
following up with us.

602
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:17,280
» I will make sure that if I may make a
suggestion, uh I know water building

603
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:22,720
software does have
capability. So you would provide the

604
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:28,400
call with email
that might be the best way to

605
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:32,480
uh via email.
>> Yeah. So we'll look at all options.

606
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,240
Again, if it's a matter of just going
down there once a month and sharing

607
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:39,359
letters or dropping things off or, you
know, putting letters in the mail, we

608
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,359
could do all those things. So we will
we'll figure out as a task force of how

609
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:47,200
we want to communicate everything that
we're working on.

610
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:51,839
to that when when we were here when two
years ago I believe it was Randy whoever

611
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:57,599
his name was was the town supervisor and
when everybody was making a point and

612
00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:02,079
not having any communication um they had
stated at a town board meeting that they

613
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:07,119
were going to sign up for Nixel the same
thing that the city uses to alert all of

614
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,560
the town users that town people in the
town they could sign up and get alerts

615
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:15,280
and that was never
>> I could actually can answer that uh we

616
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:20,000
did look into problem with Nixl is
because the town surrounds the city.

617
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:25,520
Nixel works in in concentric circles, it
works its way out uh for your geographic

618
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:30,160
area. Uh the only way that work for us
is we'd have to notify everybody in the

619
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:33,040
city too. Um I don't know if you if you
understand what I'm saying like yeah

620
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,800
like you put a circle on something and
it could notify that person. Now since

621
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:42,880
the town's already there's no way to
blank out that circle and do that. So we

622
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:48,240
did look into that. Um, and that just
was a dead end for us.

623
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,208
» Well, as this gentleman just had
mentioned, like we I get my water bill

624
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,119
electronically. You can't
[clears throat] communicate through that

625
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,160
same system.
>> I will definitely look into it now.

626
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Yeah. Didn't even know about it. So, I
would definitely look into it.

627
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:06,640
» If you have your Gmail register with
your account, we'll shoot you a way to

628
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:11,359
» and I'll even, you know, call special
meeting um as well just so that we can

629
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:15,839
spend more time.
um just like more in like a non business

630
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,839
format, you know what I mean? So,
>> and I do appreciate what you guys have

631
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:24,240
done and if you're not like completely
ignoring it, I get it. But like we live

632
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:27,359
it every day. So, and there's many
people there that I mean their houses

633
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:30,559
are on the market so they want to talk
about it. You can't sell a house if you

634
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:36,400
can't be on board,
>> you know, and it's just so those people

635
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,319
are definitely not going to reach out to
you. Um,

636
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:43,839
» I think overcommunicating with everyone
in the Woodland Water District about

637
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:47,920
everything you're doing will go a long
way to help alleviate some of this

638
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:51,520
hostility that you're receiving because
like we don't even know you have a task

639
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,599
force set up, right? I mean, so I think
a lot Brett just gave a great

640
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:59,040
explanation of everything that had been
done. I mean, those of us who are lucky

641
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,000
to know him on a personal level maybe
got wind into some of that as it was

642
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,079
happening, but most of the other people
don't have any idea what's going on. I

643
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:08,880
think that's probably been the biggest
frustration over the last two years

644
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,400
because we don't get any of the
information. We assume we're making

645
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:19,440
» Yeah. I'll make sure that we do better.
>> And also we meet the first Tuesday of

646
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,319
every month at 2:45. You're more than
welcome.

647
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:30,400
even if you got one person in the
neighborhood, you know, so we can have

648
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,599
but I'll make sure that we we'll bring
out the minutes and drop them off, you

649
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,480
know, or whatever it is we have to do so
that you're all aware of it as well.

650
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:41,599
Trust me, I understand that everyone
works and uh and and trying to

651
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:46,160
accommodate that versus other places
that have their meetings at 10:00. hope

652
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:50,000
uh which the working people doesn't work
out for that but we will make sure that

653
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,599
we get that minutes and information out
to you uh quicker

654
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:57,760
also [clears throat]
like I said as soon as somebody puts in

655
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:02,000
a report usually someone's right like
right on it like putting out fires

656
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:08,240
running over the water operator so
please uh it would be good if you'd just

657
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:12,400
let him know again or call here
>> everybody

658
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:16,880
it's the whole every single hospital
it's So crazy because some of the

659
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:19,599
neighbors aren't. So if we just try to
get the target areas,

660
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:25,480
» walk my dog. I haven't talked to one
person that hasn't had the problem.

661
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,480
» Walk them every day.

662
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:30,160
That's what you're saying. I mean,
there's people that like they're they're

663
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,640
afraid they're going to lose their
property value. That's part of it, you

664
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:40,000
know. So they're not willing to be
forthright and come up and say that.

665
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,960
» Which I mean that's a legit concern for
sure. Mhm.

666
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,680
» You know, you spent all your life paying
for this house that's worth junk if you

667
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,680
can't get water.

668
00:50:52,640 --> 00:51:01,440
» Food for
Thank you all for sharing that. Um uh

669
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:05,119
anyone else before we move on? And just
so we all know, there's also another uh

670
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:09,760
privilege of the floor at the end of the
meeting as well. uh but um uh we do have

671
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:14,720
to conduct business but I will honor
those who are business now

672
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,920
» different topic um just I think if I
share this now maybe they'll be answered

673
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:22,079
later or can be answered in
presentations that come up later um

674
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:26,880
regarding the application by the
all-star village just some things that I

675
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:30,559
noted where they say there's no increase
in traffic so part of me is saying well

676
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:35,839
why do we need all these new parking
spaces that there's no increase traffic

677
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:38,960
and I hear they are expanding so that
kind of caught my eye in the application

678
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:42,000
because I know that impacts the
infrastructure which is why I'm sure

679
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:49,359
that that's being asked or what impact
that might have um

680
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:53,280
and I'm thinking it would go through um
DEC or something. Anyway, just that they

681
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:57,760
did note that they're adjacent to
wetland waterway but supposedly it's not

682
00:51:55,359 --> 00:52:02,079
supposed to be impacted.
Again, I have to trust that you guys are

683
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:05,599
going to follow procedure and
application process and review processes

684
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,960
for that. But that's always a big
concern when you're hearing about water

685
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:13,680
things here. And you know, one other um
area that's impacted with negative water

686
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:17,520
problems. Um so those are kind of my
questions there. And I I don't know if

687
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:23,760
they have in their project. I didn't see
that. Um there really should be a

688
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:30,240
walkway that created that goal or not
through. Um, and then also, um, I'd be

689
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,880
curious to know if you're going to talk
about it when you noted on there, um,

690
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:39,200
you requested a review in regard to the
distribution of tax revenue and how

691
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:43,040
little comes to the town of Oni. I
wonder if somewhere there's a breakdown

692
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:47,280
of where it all goes because what was
shared on there, it's such a minimum

693
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,960
amount that's coming to the town of Oni.
So, I'm glad that that's being looked

694
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,760
into, but because that is really
concerning.

695
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,800
» Yeah. Um, go ahead.
>> Okay. Yeah. because I don't expect you

696
00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:02,559
to answer it right now. Maybe, you know,
as things come up in the board meeting.

697
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,960
Um, solar power.
Um, I guess my thought would be on that

698
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:12,800
if we're getting solar power that any
plan would include costs that might be

699
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:20,640
incurred when or not might that are
incurred when those solar panels expire

700
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:26,000
and to dispose of them in a way that is
um what I say

701
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:30,800
environmentally sound. Thank you. um
because that's not a good part of solar

702
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:35,520
pan or paddles and you know if we're
saying we're using them because of the

703
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:39,040
footprint and you know the benefit of
that well then part of the plan needs to

704
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,040
include how we're going to dispose of
them in environmental sound like as much

705
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:46,720
as we can I don't know
>> how safe that can be

706
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:50,880
» some of your questions should be you'll
hear more about them

707
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:55,359
» okay just so you're aware
>> so I thought if I toss them out now as

708
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,760
those things came up
share that out. So, but that's all I

709
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,640
have.
>> Oh, I can say Vermon 19 Shepard. Yeah,

710
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,559
I'm sorry.
>> No, Vermont, you want to come in and

711
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:06,559
share?
>> Okay, please.

712
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:12,400
» Same subject. Um, my name is Douglas
Hamless. This is my wife, Cheryl. We

713
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:16,960
live at 676 County Highway 35, which
isn't even in the town of Onion. It's in

714
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,520
the town of uh Milford, but we got a
substantial amount of baseball rental

715
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:27,200
pressure in our neighborhood, which is a
secondary impact. And so we're uh aware

716
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:32,319
of and concerned about the proposed
Allstar Village expansion. And Mr.

717
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:37,280
Supervisor, we saw your letter imploring
transparency and we applaud that. I

718
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:43,599
actually made an appointment to review
the records uh today at the code

719
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:48,079
enforcement office and Ryan and Wendy
were very helpful, but I don't think

720
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:54,559
they've been given all the records and I
don't think they've been given uh the

721
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:59,520
most upto-date uh records. Um for
instance, none of the parking lot

722
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:04,240
expansion records are posted uh on site
nor the zone change application. and

723
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:10,000
it's all part of the uh all part of the
same uh application. Um so we're looking

724
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:14,800
at a and I realize this is the planning
board but Mr. Supervisor since you made

725
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:19,839
an issue of transparency I wanted you
and the board to understand I've tried

726
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:24,000
to look into this and I've not only not
been able to see all the documents but

727
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:28,720
the documents that I have seen are
outdated. So, it's difficult for the

728
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:34,559
public to prepare for a public meeting
before the planning board next week when

729
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:40,240
the relevant documents are not online
and are not even available at uh um uh

730
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,079
at the code enforcement office. So, I
don't want to throw shade at anyone,

731
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:49,119
Ryan or Wendy. They're very helpful. I
want you as a town board to know that

732
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:56,640
I'm trying to look into this and it's
more opaque than transparent. Um

733
00:55:54,240 --> 00:56:01,359
I I did see though that it requires a
zone change which is done by local law

734
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:06,559
and that's your cost to bear. That means
you're an involved agency under SRA and

735
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:12,079
you're eligible to serve as the lead
agency. Now typically for normal routine

736
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:17,599
development projects, the planning board
serves as lead agents. but with actions

737
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:22,400
that have the potential to affect or
further affect the character of

738
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:28,079
community. It's often appropriate for
the elected officials to serve as the

739
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,599
lead agency to oversee the secret
review. And I've tried to look through

740
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:36,960
your minutes. I have not seen a
resolution where you consented to the

741
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:42,720
planning board be lead agency. So if
that has not occurred, I I submit that

742
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:48,960
you should strongly consider uh
asserting lead agency status for this

743
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:53,680
project because it is not a routine uh
development project. Um so I

744
00:56:52,589 --> 00:56:58,799
[clears throat] understand you have it
on the agenda to talk about it a little

745
00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:04,799
more. I I'm certainly going to stay and
uh listen to that. But if part of it is

746
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:10,400
you know the planning board asking your
consent to be the seeker lead agency

747
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:14,400
which is a very important uh very
important role I think you should

748
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:20,640
strongly consider saying hey for this
project considering its potential impact

749
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:25,520
some of which we've already touched on
um many of which we have not it's

750
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:30,400
appropriate for you as the elected
officials to oversee that uh that

751
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:33,839
review. So, thank you for letting me
make those comments.

752
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:40,079
» Yeah. And Doug, Doug, Doug, I'll make
sure uh that whatever documents aren't

753
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:44,319
up there that they will be available.
Um, so thank you for letting me know and

754
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,400
I'll make sure that's taken care of. Uh,
and on that topic, just so that if

755
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:51,680
anyone else here has questions, we will
talk about it more. Um obviously I can't

756
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:56,640
speak into details of the pending
application but uh you know a couple of

757
00:57:54,240 --> 00:58:04,240
months ago this board passed an expert
uh fee law where now those um uh who

758
00:58:01,359 --> 00:58:10,960
have applications submitted to us uh we
are now uh using um uh basically an

759
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:15,839
escrow account uh from these applicants
that we are using that money for expert

760
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:21,119
services on behalf of the town. And so
we have contracted with um uh planning

761
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:27,359
experts uh who are leaving no stone
unturned on behalf of the town um uh

762
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:32,559
reviewing all the documents uh as well
uh and looking at all u uh items uh

763
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:37,680
regarding this you know environmental
impact fiscal you know traffic all sorts

764
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:43,119
of things. So um you know thankfully we
passed that so that that that cost isn't

765
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:47,680
going back to the taxpayers right and so
it's going it's coming from the

766
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:52,880
applicants and so uh again leaving no
stone unturned hope hopefully um uh you

767
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:57,520
know that leaves that gives some
easement to that but I you know this

768
00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:02,400
board does have full faith uh in in in
what what they're doing um but so just

769
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:08,160
so that people are aware of that process
>> that that's an excellent step making

770
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:14,400
them you making them pay for uh your
review services. But in trying to review

771
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:19,839
the application materials, none of the
documents that would be generated by the

772
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:25,040
efforts you just described are available
for review. I'm not saying they don't

773
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:28,079
exist. I just I I haven't had a chance
to see them. So, I wanted the town board

774
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:31,040
to know.
>> No, that's good. Thank you for letting

775
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:38,880
me know. Appreciate that. Uh and then
those who don't know um uh on Monday um

776
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:43,599
uh is it Monday the 17th the 17th uh
there is a uh planning board meeting

777
00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:48,240
where there is a public comment period
on this application. Uh so all who have

778
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:52,880
questions for the applicants and the
planning board um can certainly come and

779
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:56,520
provide that or submit their comments to
the clerk as well.

780
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:05,599
» I'm Bob Har. I'm a longtime resident of
town at left Raino Road and we've seen

781
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:09,839
the development of the Allstar Village
and I would like to point out a couple

782
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:16,240
things that I hope everybody in this
community is aware of it. It does impact

783
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:21,359
this community for 14 15 weeks in the
summer and it is a bit of inconvenience

784
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:28,640
and we hear the fireworks, we see the
light, we hear the traffic and however

785
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:32,559
what it's done too is the town says they
haven't received any benefit from it.

786
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:38,079
And [clears throat] I would point out
that we do receive benefit because your

787
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:43,359
property values are higher because of
the value of the homes. They're

788
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:47,760
receiving a pillow tax or whatever they
call it. Community benefits from the

789
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:52,559
increase in the property values to
school taxes. And that property when it

790
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:58,319
was developed could have been developed
into a junkyard or something totally

791
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:01,680
different. It It's something that's
bringing a lot of commerce to your

792
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:07,359
community. Look what it's done to the
corner of Wendy Hill. taken property

793
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,640
that sat there follow quite a while turn
it into

794
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:15,280
some eating establishments or some
others. So when you're looking at this,

795
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:19,599
take the balance both sides and look at
what it does. And then also ask yourself

796
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:24,880
the question, where will you be without
it? What do you propose to put in there?

797
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:31,839
Other than that, the development of the
parking on that side of the road is

798
01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:37,839
going to hopefully, you know, create
them better traffic.

799
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:41,440
We run I have a signal mix of big
material. So we attend to that traffic

800
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:46,720
all the time.
It is a bit of an inconvenience but in

801
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,720
the same it has benefited this community
and I hope everybody takes question

802
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:57,040
because take a look at the community
where it was where it is now where it

803
01:01:53,680 --> 01:02:01,040
was 30 years ago and ask yourself where
are we going to be tomorrow where are

804
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:07,359
you going to be tomorrow
>> thank you and just to so regarding the

805
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:12,480
vet tax or pillow tax as you said uh we
don't receive any of that that's a v tax

806
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,960
uh that is imposed by the county.
>> Oh, you do receive it.

807
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:19,359
» We do not.
>> No, I'm not talking about the I'm

808
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:23,599
talking about the tax account when you
have a for the rentals for the bad

809
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,440
rentals. You got
>> you pass the tax.

810
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:31,440
» No, we don't have an optional rental.
>> No, it's a permit.

811
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,000
» Permit tax. What do you call permits? We
get money.

812
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,559
» Oh, that's for the permits for like the
special use permits.

813
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,119
» Yeah.
That's

814
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:44,319
» Oh, for that? Yes. Yes. For that. Oh,
not not not a tax a part of your

815
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:48,960
community. And I believe if I'm not
mistaken, isn't that an annual fee

816
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,880
you're collecting?
>> Yes.

817
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:55,599
» So, you are benefiting.
>> Well, the short Yes. For the special

818
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:59,680
use.
>> Yes. Yes.

819
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:05,520
» You don't get the bed tax on the count.
If you do have your and you have the

820
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:07,920
hotels that you don't get anything from,
that's for the bed tax.

821
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:15,079
» Yeah. Yeah, that's what I just wanted so
we can clarify that for but thank you

822
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,079
for that. Um, all right. Anyone else?

823
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:23,079
» Webster Street West. This is my water
clear.

824
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:37,280
» We don't want municipal water here. that
baseball park wants to come into our

825
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:42,960
hamlet, keep their municipal water to
themselves. Don't make it our problem.

826
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:48,519
Every I've been coming to these meetings
all the time for a long time and every

827
01:03:45,359 --> 01:03:52,319
month I hear about municipal water
[clears throat] and we don't want it.

828
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:56,480
I've been living there for 30 years.
About 15 years ago, I had to replace my

829
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:01,280
water pump which is just a couple
hundred bucks. That's it for 30 years.

830
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:08,200
after get nice clean clear water
dispense and get in the store. So we

831
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:08,200
don't want the water.

832
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,000
» Anyone else?

833
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:22,319
» Once going twice. So now we're going to
go on to our uh agenda item. Uh and so

834
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:26,160
if anyone you all can start to say uh
and there will be another public comment

835
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:29,160
period at the end. Thank you all for
coming.

836
01:04:32,404 --> 01:04:35,960
» [clears throat]
>> We're good.

837
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,520
Third

838
01:04:47,469 --> 01:04:51,454
[clears throat]
[snorts]

839
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,640
Somebody else

840
01:05:20,875 --> 01:05:22,895
[clears throat]

841
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,839
detail.

842
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Okay,

843
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:44,720
» we're going to go. We're going to move
on to our next part of the agenda. Uh,

844
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:48,400
so we have a presentation
from the Ony

845
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:52,680
Center
to discuss three items.

846
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:04,480
for evening and thanks for letting me
come again.

847
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:09,200
Before I begin, I I [clears throat] want
to tell you a couple things that's going

848
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:14,480
on at the outreach center. We uh we're
very close to our organization buying

849
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:18,640
the the armory.
The lawyers have been working on it and

850
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:24,640
we're excited because the architects
came in four times and they've decided

851
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:29,920
that we can put in 24 housing units for
veterans and families. So, we're we're

852
01:06:27,359 --> 01:06:33,599
excited about that. Plus, you know, all
the other things you probably see in the

853
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:39,440
paper. We're doing the homeless veterans
program that Carrie runs, excuse me, uh

854
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:42,319
food bank.
They're [clears throat] there every day

855
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:48,799
looking for food. We the community is
very generous and we get a lot of

856
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:54,400
support. Um we have an AA meeting for
veterans with postraumatic stress. Uh we

857
01:06:51,520 --> 01:07:02,160
have a female veterans program. We have
a program. So we have a whole lot of

858
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:06,559
action going on. But tonight, I just
want to uh bring you up to date of

859
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:12,160
what's going on with the veterans
exemption for the 100% total

860
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:16,960
impermanent. Uh when I was here before,
the the law said that everybody had to

861
01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:22,400
opt in, had the option of opting in or
not doing it. And um then it went a

862
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:27,839
couple months later, it went to where it
was mandatory. Every school district,

863
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:32,079
every town board um would have to do it.
And then when the budget came out, they

864
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:36,160
went back to the original, opted in,
opted out.

865
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:42,880
And the real point I want to make is
there's not a lot of people uh eligible

866
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:47,200
for it. I went to uh we went to Lawrence
Board meeting and they passed a

867
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:52,799
resolution. They had three three
veterans that were eligible for the

868
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:58,319
benefit. They um I went to the city of
On

869
01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:03,760
three years ago and they have 33.
I I met with your assessor and I never

870
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:12,200
got the numbers back there as to uh how
many and going on.

871
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:12,200
I provided Did you all get a packet from

872
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:19,040
» the packets with all the questions and
answers?

873
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,679
» No, I did not provide that. No, I did.
Oh, you have it. Okay.

874
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,759
» You have
>> Okay. So, we we'll make sure that they

875
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:31,600
» Yeah. And it goes into real detail about
every question that has come in to the

876
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:36,560
attorneys in Albany as to how the impact
would be. Um only veterans that are

877
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:44,159
totally and permanently
uh graded by the VA as 100% and widows

878
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:50,159
of a veteran who dies is 100%. So the
numbers are very small and I would ask

879
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:57,040
that you consider passing a resolution
to support that effective October 1st on

880
01:08:53,440 --> 01:09:01,759
the goals for 2027.
And with that questions please

881
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:07,600
» I do have I just tell you the number. So
it seems there's 219

882
01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:13,839
uh in the town of the town has 219
veterans exceptions. out of that 43 had

883
01:09:11,199 --> 01:09:19,600
a uh disability exception and then out
of that 43 12 have 100% acceptance. So

884
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:25,199
just so you are aware of that number
>> and if not um of the 43 there's some

885
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:28,880
that probably aren't qualified. They
have VA has to state that is total

886
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,000
impermanent.
>> I think he said 12.

887
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:35,920
» Yeah 123 12.
>> Okay. I think that that fits with what

888
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:41,440
we're seeing in other towns.
>> And and also um just to clarify that 12

889
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,199
as well, I'm not sure I'm not looking at
your numbers, but there is a difference

890
01:09:42,878 --> 01:09:48,880
[clears throat] between 100% disabled
rating by the VA and 100% total and

891
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:52,640
permanent. Correct.
>> So that 12 might actually be

892
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:57,280
» Yeah.
>> And the numbers we looked at in the

893
01:09:54,480 --> 01:10:00,320
city, 33 would be the max.
>> So there's not a lot of people.

894
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:05,280
» Three in Lawrence, I think.
Lauren already voted voted to pass.

895
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:08,480
» Right.
>> Have you spoken with the county and also

896
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:14,480
the school district?
>> We have I was told to let the veterans

897
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:19,199
rep up there to go to the county. I have
a meeting next week with the Lawrence

898
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:23,360
school board. I delivered a packet to
them for preview

899
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:30,600
» and we delivered the packets to the
school board school district as well.

900
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:30,600
Okay. I think so.

901
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:40,560
» Just out of curiosity, have I been able
to secure funding for uh the veterans

902
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,880
housing in the armory or is that
something

903
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:49,280
» in the works? state and federal
>> some some funding has been secured and

904
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:54,080
then um more more so grant for DM um
SSPF all all different uh programs

905
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:58,239
through the VA
all those things would um helps help

906
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:03,600
help fun for perhaps so it would be
transitional housing there would also be

907
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:09,199
units uh reserved specifically for DV
victims that uh would be veterans or non

908
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:16,800
veterans so there would be uh spaces
held for DV victims families

909
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:19,840
um separate from the being vet veteran
status.

910
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:23,360
» In addition to what we're going to do to
service the veterans, we're going to

911
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,760
make our gym and the building a
community center.

912
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:33,920
» Thank you for that.
>> I just want to point out one thing. We

913
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:38,400
have a lot of veterans here that came to
came out to support us with us tonight.

914
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:42,400
Um, some of them had some evil because
it was just a little debate, but we

915
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:49,294
still have some here, too.
>> And they have to be really sure it

916
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:50,800
should get the rating by the VA program.
[clears throat]

917
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:55,440
» Okay.
>> Thank you for all you do and your

918
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:59,040
service and all those that were here as
well to support their [clears throat]

919
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:02,960
brothers and sisters as well.
>> We have a monthly lunchon for veterans

920
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:07,600
on the first Tuesday. We're averaging
about 80 veterans coming in for the

921
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:14,880
lunchon. Week from Saturday, we're
having a standown. We're anticipating

922
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:17,120
250 to 300 people being at the standout.
>> Yeah. What is that?

923
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:20,360
» Where's that going to be held?
>> At the

924
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,159
» What was your question?
>> Oh, I didn't know a standown. Do I know

925
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:30,480
that term?
>> Well, stand down. In the military, they

926
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:35,440
if you're getting ready to go to combat,
they tell you to stand to and be alert.

927
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:42,800
» When when the action is over, they tell
you to stand down and relax. And the VA

928
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:47,120
uh uses that term to bring people
together, interact

929
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:51,679
» and he's very nice and rest, right? So,
um

930
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:55,440
» um specifically the services are
provided for all veterans. All veterans

931
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:58,880
are welcome and encouraged to come. they
they're really providing resources.

932
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:03,440
We'll be providing resources for
veterans who may be unhoused or in

933
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:08,800
housing crisis or in food crisis so that
they're um targeted. We are able to find

934
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:12,800
them and provide services.
>> Thank you for that.

935
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:15,960
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

936
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:24,325
» So right now it's not public comment
period but I will allow it. Please go

937
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,325
ahead. [clears throat]

938
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:32,320
Hey, my name is Bill Baker. I grew up on
Honeyville Road, 1057 Way Hill. Just

939
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:37,760
want to put face to those numbers.
I served in the Air Force from 197074.

940
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:43,360
I was in Southeast Asia as part of
Special Arms. Just want to give you an

941
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:49,600
idea of the physical problems that I
have now.

942
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:55,440
PTSD. I have a heart condition. I've got
poisoning from Agent Orange. I've had my

943
01:13:52,239 --> 01:14:00,960
thyroid removed. I've had five knee
surgeries, two hip replacements. I'm

944
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:05,360
having a knee replacement in three
weeks.

945
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:09,040
Tomorrow, VA is installing a stair lift
in my house cuz I can't get up to my

946
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:16,560
bedroom
and a host of other smaller things. But

947
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:20,800
I think you need to see the face of what
Gary's asking.

948
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:28,800
You know, we serve. We were willing to
die. We came back. The government

949
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:34,640
screwed us with agent March. And I think
we said we can do

950
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:40,719
is give us a break.
A lot of us this taxing can make the

951
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:46,000
difference between whether we can keep
our family homes or if we have to.

952
01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:54,280
Thank you,
>> Bill. Thank you uh for your service. Um

953
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:54,280
and thank you for sharing uh all

954
01:14:56,719 --> 01:15:06,560
brother good
>> okay all right thank you again Jerry and

955
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:12,560
thank you to the Oana center um so we
have another uh presentation um from

956
01:15:10,159 --> 01:15:19,920
common planning and solid waste Nicole
is here to speak about uh possibility of

957
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,920
constructing a bus shelter here

958
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:29,840
Do you have the presentation to put on
the board on the screen?

959
01:15:29,377 --> 01:15:33,480
[clears throat]
>> If not, it's okay.

960
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,440
» It was very simple. Anyways,
>> go ahead.

961
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:44,960
» So, yeah. So, uh, currently our
department has funding for bus shelters

962
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:50,719
through section 5311 from the federal
government. And, uh, we looked at this

963
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:56,560
location at the town hall at that kind
of plot of grassy land that's across

964
01:15:53,199 --> 01:16:01,440
from this building. Uh, and initially I
was thinking that we would try to

965
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:06,080
potentially place a shelter facing State
Route 23, but also um through some

966
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:11,040
discussions I've just had internally at
work this past week, uh, I'm also

967
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:19,600
considering to make it possibly safer to
not have it be on the state route, uh,

968
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:23,280
on the eastern facing portion of that I
I want to say parcel, just piece of land

969
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:30,719
basically. So it would be kind of it
would be facing perpendicular to the uh

970
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:36,560
to 23. It would be it'd be facing
eastward on 23. Um but again that could

971
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:41,040
be a further discussion if the town is
interested in hosting a bus shelter at

972
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,640
that location. Uh the county would
provide all the funding for the bus

973
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:49,760
shelter. We would uh the funding
includes all construction fees. It's

974
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:54,960
it's all county funds. Um, and
this location is a stop on Oiggo

975
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:59,679
Express's route one, and uh, it passes
by there about seven times through its

976
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:04,239
run. Uh, it's a designated Oh, great.
So, that's pretty much where I am in my

977
01:17:02,159 --> 01:17:08,400
in my presentation. So, that's just a a
picture of [clears throat] route one uh

978
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:12,800
through our map. It goes from Richfield
to Oniana to Coopertown. It takes the

979
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:16,320
bus schedule itself is very confusing,
so I didn't include it, but it goes

980
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:21,199
pretty much from Richfield, Oiana to
Coopertown to Oiana a few different

981
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:27,120
times throughout the day from uh 6:00
a.m. until 5:00 p.m. So, it it goes by

982
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:34,080
the town hall property five times a day
or five days a week pretty consistently.

983
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:38,080
And I also included photos of current
county bus shelters just to give you an

984
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:43,040
example. Uh the two Richfield Springs
shelters are the county's oldest and we

985
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:46,480
potentially might get them replaced, but
that's just kind of an example of those

986
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,600
are kind of a smaller form of shelter.
And then the Spring Brook shelter is a

987
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:55,280
little bit larger. I think that's our
largest asset in terms of a shelter. And

988
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:59,280
then we have the uh firehouse shelter as
well. Oh, and that first slide kind of

989
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:03,600
indicates what I was kind of talking
about. Like the square is where I was

990
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:10,080
considering initially putting a bus
shelter, but if you look at it basically

991
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:16,719
to the left of the square on the bottom
photo, uh a bus shelter being the birth

992
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:22,320
of so hard for me to describe that, but
basically being um more [clears throat]

993
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:29,679
than
for you uh depending on what works best

994
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:34,239
for both the county and the town. Um,
and I guess you can go a few slides

995
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:39,760
ahead now. Um, so just a couple
concerns. Accessibility. Uh, with any

996
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,800
construction of a facility such as this,
we need to make sure that it's ADA

997
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,199
accessible. So there would have to be,
this would be included in the

998
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:50,880
construction, but there would have to be
kind of some sort of ramp structure or

999
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:55,840
some way to be able to access the bus
shelter without having to step up

1000
01:18:53,840 --> 01:19:00,080
basically. So, there just needs to be uh
a ramp set in place, which is why I was

1001
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:04,000
kind of thinking about
uh different locations within that plot

1002
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:07,760
of land to put the shelter where it
would be safest to kind of in in case

1003
01:19:06,159 --> 01:19:13,199
somebody had a wheelchair or anything on
wheels that they needed to put them into

1004
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:17,120
the shelter. Um, and another concern
that I didn't put here is DOT right

1005
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:21,760
ofway cuz if we do have it close enough
to State Route 23, we have to apply for

1006
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:24,880
certain approvals through the DOT. It
wouldn't be difficult but it would just

1007
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:32,480
possibly make the process a bit
lengthier and maintenance responsibility

1008
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:38,080
is sometimes a concern. Um there in the
uh temporary e or the permanent easement

1009
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:41,679
agreement I had sent to all of you. I
there are there's an option to choose

1010
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,480
either the county or the town would
perform this maintenance and that's a

1011
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:50,960
discussion that we could have between
the county and the town. Uh currently

1012
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:55,760
the county [clears throat] on non-county
owned property does not provide the

1013
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:58,880
maintenance because in the most in most
cases it doesn't really need the

1014
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,360
shelters that we have right now don't
need maintenance. Uh there's not really

1015
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:07,199
any buildup of trash. There doesn't tend
to be snow since they tend to be on

1016
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:11,760
sidewalks. But we can also have that
discussion if that is a concern

1017
01:20:08,420 --> 01:20:17,120
[clears throat] on the town's end.
And I believe that's it.

1018
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:23,760
Cool.
Anybody have any questions?

1019
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:28,960
» I I do. Um, so because that's a um state
highway, I guess you would call it. Um,

1020
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:32,320
are there any concerns of, for instance,
I mean, when the plows come through, if

1021
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,440
that's close enough to the highway, I
mean, they're going to throw snow right

1022
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,199
through the Lexan or whatever the
glasses.

1023
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:40,800
» All right.
>> Is there any thoughts of setting it back

1024
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:46,080
further or we do own the property next
to it as well? Well, that was uh

1025
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:51,640
discussed the property where you see the
shrub to the right the um we also own

1026
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:54,960
that. I don't know if it's a
[clears throat]

1027
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:59,600
» I that was not discussed. We could
discuss it if that seems to be

1028
01:20:57,199 --> 01:21:02,320
» in the grassy area below. I mean if you
put it perpendicular like you mentioned

1029
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:05,280
to New York State
>> right

1030
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:09,920
» highway 23 there
to the left

1031
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,679
low beach to left. Yeah. I mean, do we
have a lot of green space there that

1032
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:17,760
potentially put it offset off the road
and the ADA accessibility since there's

1033
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:23,960
no curve there will be less of a
concern?

1034
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:23,960
» He meant to the left. The left

1035
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:32,400
» right
>> the land that's just cut off down

1036
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:36,640
» and then I
>> to the east.

1037
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:40,719
» Yes. To the east and Okay. Yeah. I
wasn't thinking about that

1038
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,400
» part of your property,
>> but that could definitely be something

1039
01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:47,120
that would be a lot easier in terms of
>> and see her.

1040
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:50,800
» Yeah.
>> Plus plus our highway guys getting out

1041
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:55,440
of there,
>> you know, line of sight. I mean, they're

1042
01:21:52,800 --> 01:22:00,639
they they're loaded. U
>> Yeah,

1043
01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:05,719
» line of sight. They're crucial.
I would have to agree with that if you

1044
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:05,719
want to electrop.

1045
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:13,199
» Okay.
>> We're open to

1046
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,719
any suggestions of alter.
>> I think it's a great idea. I I would

1047
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,920
definitely support it.
>> Okay.

1048
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,520
» You want to like check out the
properties that we own on GIS and that

1049
01:22:22,687 --> 01:22:27,679
[clears throat]
>> Ryan's got it right there.

1050
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,639
» Okay.
Well, I mean when you talk back with the

1051
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:34,239
group, right? like you know to see what
works better for them. Uh, and again, I

1052
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:38,719
don't know if your funding has
requirements as well, but

1053
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:41,920
» not really to be honest. It's just
shelters as long as we can.

1054
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,880
» All right.
>> Um, is this

1055
01:22:47,577 --> 01:22:53,960
[clears throat]
one? That's a Where are we at?

1056
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:08,679
» You can't get satellite on 2014.
>> If you do the New York State ortho

1057
01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:08,679
latest,

1058
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,840
» there we go.
>> Okay,

1059
01:23:14,432 --> 01:23:20,719
[clears throat]
>> and that's and that's by the town.

1060
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:26,159
» This is the town. Uh this is where uh
this whole time this is

1061
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:29,440
» and with that you could even incorporate
a little pull up to make it safer

1062
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:35,600
» right
>> for the bus so it doesn't have to stop

1063
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:43,440
on the highway. I can't tell where if
the shrubs would be in the way of that.

1064
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:47,040
» But yeah, if not then
>> cut those down,

1065
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:50,800
» right?
>> Yeah. As long as it wouldn't impact

1066
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,960
roots [clears throat] or anything.
That's fine.

1067
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:59,560
» Like two, you know.
>> Has anybody check?

1068
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:06,880
» Okay. Okay.
>> Did anybody check with DOT first

1069
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:12,960
» about this property?
>> Um I have not uh this is basically my

1070
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:17,920
first step and and then I'll get to I've
I've expressed to DOT that this that I

1071
01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:23,040
was planning to inquire about a shelter
on this property, but I haven't received

1072
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:26,400
a response yet. Um
but I can I can reach out about both of

1073
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:32,000
those locations and see what their
requirements are about a shelter that's

1074
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:35,120
actually facing 23. Even though I think
we're all kind of in agreement that it

1075
01:24:33,679 --> 01:24:40,560
might not be the best idea, especially
with highway vehicles potentially

1076
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:47,280
getting snow inside the shelter if it's
faced if it's open towards 23.

1077
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:54,159
So yeah, I could I could get some
answers from DOT and then reach back out

1078
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:59,159
and also speak to my director as well
about that parcel instead.

1079
01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:08,960
because yeah, we would love to be able
to do that in a way that's least

1080
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:17,679
destructive to the existing property and
you know wouldn't take a lot of

1081
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:19,600
a lot of reorganizing of existing land
possible.

1082
01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:23,280
» When when you say there's funding
available,

1083
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:29,280
we would have to go out and build it.
You just reimburse us or do you guys

1084
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:33,280
just build it? We the county would uh
basically

1085
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:37,360
gather quotes for installation of bus
shelters and we would pay for it and

1086
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:42,360
we're getting reimbured through um the
FTA.

1087
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,360
» Thank you.

1088
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:54,560
» C can I just ask this board was there I
I know it's a fairly recent uh that

1089
01:25:51,760 --> 01:26:01,600
parcel is a fairly recent purchase. U
there was a house there. Did did the

1090
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:04,639
previous board decide to have any ideas
or

1091
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:09,600
» talked about charging the station? We
talked about

1092
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:16,679
uh the highway department had their eyes
on it just for

1093
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,679
something. Nothing nothing specific.

1094
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:22,719
» The farmers market. Yeah, we talked
about Yeah, we talked about farmers

1095
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:27,280
market, but then we thought we we didn't
want to take anything away from the city

1096
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:33,610
in that respect. They already have an
access kind of look at it.

1097
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:33,610
[clears throat]

1098
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,760
» Yeah, even picnic tables and things like
that.

1099
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:44,560
» We we talked about charging stations
there, but then really when it really

1100
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,440
came down to it, it's like what are the
people going to do where their cars are

1101
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,920
charging? We get off their picnic table,
but it's not going to charge in picnic

1102
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:53,920
time.
>> Um, you know, we they're not going to go

1103
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,920
take a walk because there not really
sidewalks.

1104
01:26:55,520 --> 01:27:01,159
» I know something about that.
>> I do.

1105
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:07,840
So, like, while it sounded like a great
idea, it just didn't seem practical.

1106
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:11,199
It's all said and done. If you need to
charge bar for eight hours or whatever,

1107
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,320
there's not like stores you can't go
shopping. You can come and hang out with

1108
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:18,560
Wendy and Ryan and go through the
archives or something. Yeah,

1109
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:25,040
» we can put that on, you know,
possibility of something in the future.

1110
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:29,199
» So, if you want to like talk um and then
send me emails or another proposal,

1111
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,280
we're not sure.
>> Sure.

1112
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:35,120
» And we can certainly present again if
you want.

1113
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:37,679
» Sure.
>> Thank you all.

1114
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:41,080
» Thank you.
I appreciate it.

1115
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:48,000
» Um Okay. Anybody else have any more
questions? No. Joe, right? You guys have

1116
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:53,920
any more questions? I know. All right.
Um, all right. So, we are going on to

1117
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:59,120
the um committee [clears throat] reports
and announcements. Um, I just have some

1118
01:27:56,480 --> 01:28:04,000
brief announcements. Uh, for those who
don't know, we had our grand reopening

1119
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:10,480
for the pool. Uh, and that was very well
attended. I mean, we had at least 100

1120
01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:16,080
plus people there. Uh thank you to uh uh
Joe and Nicole uh for all their help

1121
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:22,080
with preparing for the event. Thank you
SPCA for being there with their mobile

1122
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:26,560
pet office to see head start uh was
their um enrolling individual was

1123
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:32,320
sharing information about their program.
Uh and Clint, our code officer

1124
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:39,280
volunteered his time and was our DJ MC
uh for the evening there. uh DJing uh

1125
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:45,520
one of the new many talents. Um uh so
that was a great event. Uh so um thank

1126
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:50,400
you all if anyone came. Um the town has
submitted uh over um I guess almost 1.6

1127
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:56,000
million [clears throat]
uh in um New York State CFA. So

1128
01:28:53,280 --> 01:29:01,280
consolidated consolidated applications
for funding uh through New York State.

1129
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:08,400
So uh thank you all for your support
with that. Uh we have submitted for a

1130
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:15,120
updated comprehensive plan um along with
um uh updating our town code. Uh we

1131
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:21,440
applied for a solar panel project um
either on the highway uh garage or um

1132
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:28,880
kind of a solar canopy in the parking
lot uh using our parking spaces. Uh as

1133
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:33,760
well um uh we applied uh for a
feasibility study uh for development

1134
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:39,840
opportunities for sites that are not
being used and other infrastructure um

1135
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:48,719
opportunities that we need uh also with
a uh specific uh um development focus of

1136
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:56,080
a indoor recreational facility as well.
Um what else do we want?

1137
01:29:53,120 --> 01:30:00,719
Oh, and then we applied for um about
$900,000

1138
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:07,280
to finish in the Greater Plank Park um
as well. So, um creating a new egress

1139
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:16,480
for the uh Greater Plank School along
with um a new pavilion um uh pickable

1140
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:21,600
courts um and hopefully other uh splash
park splash pad as well. Uh so hopefully

1141
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:26,400
we get the money for that um all those
projects because essentially all those

1142
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:31,360
uh are tax breaks for the community uh
so that um we are not using taxpayer

1143
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:36,960
money on that. So hopefully we get
something uh out of those. So thank you

1144
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:41,840
all for the support with that. Um to
answer your question about the letter

1145
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:47,920
that was sent out. So myself and um at
county representative Pinchy sent a

1146
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:55,199
letter to uh the county board of
representatives. Um for those who don't

1147
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:59,520
know uh the town um many believe that we
get all the tax revenue sales tax

1148
01:30:57,199 --> 01:31:05,280
revenue that is generated uh within the
town. Obviously, the town has many

1149
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:10,880
opportunities that many of the
simply Aigo County and the general

1150
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:14,800
greater Aigo County don't have. Uh, but
we don't get all that tax revenue that's

1151
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:20,320
generated. Uh, last year was the highest
ever that we received and it was 740,000

1152
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:24,960
uh dollars that we received out of
almost over 10 million that we probably

1153
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:29,199
generate here, if not more. um the data
and the fiscal numbers aren't easily

1154
01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:34,080
accessible because uh they're not uh
provided uh to the public. So uh that

1155
01:31:32,639 --> 01:31:38,400
information will have to come from the
county treasur's office uh at some

1156
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:44,080
point. Hopefully we get those numbers.
But um you know the the last item that

1157
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:49,360
was shared with me was that we do
generate 60 to 75% of the whole sales

1158
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:56,080
tax revenue for the whole county. um uh
and we are only getting about 0.15% of

1159
01:31:52,320 --> 01:32:02,719
that uh because there is an RKA formula
uh that is very uh is not equitable by

1160
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:07,520
any means and um uh the county has
established a uh formula called

1161
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:14,000
pre-exemption. So the city of Onana
automatic get 12 uh then another 12%

1162
01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:19,679
goes to all towns and villages in uh the
county uh and then the and county keeps

1163
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:24,239
the rest uh and so you know our town
residents um well as a board our town

1164
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:29,679
residents have shared that you know you
all deserve better uh and deserve to uh

1165
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:34,080
have more equitable share. So then we
can do things with fixing our water,

1166
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:40,400
having more staff, um being able to have
a you know uh events um or applying for

1167
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:46,880
more grants. Um and so that's the ask is
for the board to um you know it's

1168
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:51,360
overdue uh and it's time for them to
look at this RPA formula uh because our

1169
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:54,480
town deserves better.
>> Uh so that I hope that answers your

1170
01:32:53,199 --> 01:33:00,639
question on that.
>> Thank you. Yeah. Um and uh we are you'll

1171
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:07,440
see shortly um we are announcing our
budget uh season. Uh so um the many

1172
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:12,159
towns in New York are prepping for their
budget season. So we are announcing uh

1173
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:16,159
that we have scheduling our public
hearings and workshops available for the

1174
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:21,440
public to share you know what they would
like to see within the budget and also

1175
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:25,840
have um uh provide any feedback uh on on
items as well. Uh and you know, we'll

1176
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:29,679
hear more about a lot of the items that
we talked about uh during many of our

1177
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:34,239
committees, but you know, just really
quick, you know, at the legislative

1178
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:40,159
committee, we talked about solar um uh
and addressing a lot of the uh outdated

1179
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:46,800
uh code and zoning instructions uh
within our current uh code uh and um you

1180
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:52,639
know, how how do we navigate making sure
that there's contingency funding for um

1181
01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:58,159
environmental you discharging, you the
equipment. Uh, and we also talked about

1182
01:33:54,960 --> 01:34:02,239
um, automatic license plate readers. Um,
and as a board we talked about, you

1183
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:07,600
know, um, working towards banning that
as well. We open the top share uh, just

1184
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:11,840
because of our poor amendment rights uh,
should be protected here. Uh, and for

1185
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:20,639
those that don't know like what is that?
Uh and so uh there are cameras uh that

1186
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:26,800
are being utilized um uh to monitor uh
individuals uh other things using AI

1187
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:31,920
algorithic data uh but then you know
that data is not protected being sold um

1188
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:38,560
and none of us get sent to any of that
uh and and so um you know we are looking

1189
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:42,000
at that uh as well. So, uh, a busy day,
uh, a busy month. Um, and so thank you

1190
01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:48,239
all for your help with those grants
because those are all a big undertaking.

1191
01:34:44,719 --> 01:34:51,440
So, moving on, uh, highway, water, and
sewer,

1192
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:54,639
» and we did a lot of a lot of work behind
the scenes on the grants, too. So,

1193
01:34:53,120 --> 01:35:02,320
thanks, Will. That there was a that was
a heavy lift. Lots of time, no sleep.

1194
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:07,520
Um, the Woodland Water uh district task
force update. Yeah, a lot of it we've

1195
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:14,239
already discussed. Uh the big thing that
came out of it was the request for

1196
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:21,120
proposals that we went over and reviewed
at the meeting. Um and

1197
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:26,719
uh we did ask that the timelines be uh
compacted and moved up as quick as we

1198
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:33,600
could so we could get uh moving to get a
diagnosis for the issue. So, um, we have

1199
01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:39,440
an RFP that everybody has seen, um,
directed by Alex Herman. Um, the dates

1200
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:44,719
moved up. I'd like to make a motion that
we approve, um, the request for

1201
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:50,960
proposals for the Woodland Water
District needs analysis, the engineering

1202
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:55,600
evaluation and diagnostic study.
>> Was that in the in the packet, Ryan? Did

1203
01:35:53,920 --> 01:36:01,600
I miss?
That was not. No. And it needs to go on

1204
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:07,280
the website, too. So, yeah.
>> No. Was it Nicole the Senate, right? But

1205
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:09,280
then the last 24 hours.
>> I don't I don't think so.

1206
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,520
» Oh,
>> no. That wasn't That was that was House.

1207
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:17,120
» Oh, that was [clears throat]
>> Yeah. So,

1208
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:21,840
» Senator Rick, can you restate your
motion?

1209
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:27,120
» Sure. Uh I was uh asking for uh well I
I'm making a motion to approve the

1210
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:35,360
request for proposals for the Woodland
Water District needs analysis

1211
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:38,360
engineering evaluation and diagnostic
study.

1212
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:45,560
See the floor second
discussion

1213
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,840
once

1214
01:36:52,239 --> 01:37:02,400
» I'm I'm a little confused.
>> Alex is going to change the dates and

1215
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:10,880
get it right back to us. Right.
Here we are at 11th hour again.

1216
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:14,239
» Yeah. How can you know
how how can we prove that?

1217
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:18,560
» Well, just for the record, there is no
we don't I don't have time. So, just

1218
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:21,360
share that. So,
>> all right.

1219
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,760
» So, I'll probably vote on something
again that you don't have all the

1220
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:30,000
information.
>> We don't have any information really.

1221
01:37:26,639 --> 01:37:34,320
» Well, no, I think you we sent out one
version of it, but yes, the final isn't

1222
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:37,040
here. [clears throat]
And the dates, the one with the dates

1223
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:42,560
that are
>> that's crucial. Those dates are crucial.

1224
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:45,560
» No, I agree with that with you.
Absolutely.

1225
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:55,400
» So, I don't think we should hold off
though. I mean,

1226
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:55,400
» how can we even know what

1227
01:37:55,417 --> 01:38:00,480
[clears throat]
>> what were the final dates you were

1228
01:37:57,199 --> 01:38:05,119
looking for, Joe?
How does it affect her? I don't

1229
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:09,679
understand.
Well, there's dates that were crucial in

1230
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:13,840
that packet. There was a couple other
changes that were supposed to be in

1231
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:21,360
there
>> because we could go out and and get

1232
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:25,440
other uh proposals in the interimm
corrections, right, for emergency.

1233
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:31,760
» Right. Right.
>> So, that had to be spelled out in that

1234
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:36,719
proposal, that RFP.
Is this right here?

1235
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:44,199
» So there's the dates on that.
>> That's not [clears throat] Yeah, that's

1236
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:44,199
the one that was uh the the last

1237
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:57,719
» in the meeting. Um we uh was supposed to
send a revised one [clears throat]

1238
01:38:54,719 --> 01:38:57,719
incorporated.

1239
01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:04,360
» Well, you didn't get it today. you back
today. I do not

1240
01:39:12,708 --> 01:39:14,728
[clears throat]

1241
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:23,119
issue one more. We don't even have it.
>> No, he that means that he's going to put

1242
01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:29,560
it out. The voting is today. That was
the intention and then

1243
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,560
» it gets posted tomorrow.

1244
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:40,800
Can we ask legal counsel to weigh in?
Um,

1245
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,719
» it's not a bad idea.
>> Is there enough information

1246
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:48,480
to take a vote or
>> I mean, we can take a vote. It's on the

1247
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:53,719
floor, but I I'm going to just share.
Yeah, I'm going to just share that. I

1248
01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:53,719
mean personally

1249
01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:02,239
I want you know women to obviously get
to know all their water situation take

1250
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:08,880
care as earnestly as quickly as we can
but I can't move forward with voting

1251
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:13,600
mine not as we have it. So um this first
meeting would be um I was hoping we had

1252
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:17,600
that but if we have to as soon as we get
it you know we will call special meeting

1253
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:23,040
and then and then we'll come in and and
take you care of it as soon as we can.

1254
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:26,960
Yeah, probably that's the best way. The
main the the meat of it was okay. It was

1255
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:32,960
primarily the date.
>> I agree. But we were supposed to have it

1256
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:40,800
and and I think reminded and we talk
about it. Should should this board just

1257
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:45,679
uh would it be easier for the coun if we
if we just schedule a special meeting

1258
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:53,800
and right now
and then um for some reason we don't

1259
01:40:49,199 --> 01:40:53,800
have the information we could u

1260
01:40:54,719 --> 01:41:00,760
tomorrow
we have time or

1261
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:08,239
supposed to be what it
But also I mean for this

1262
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:17,119
» this is also an emergency. So I would
ask you know the town people deserve

1263
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:22,159
that as soon as possible. Uh so um you
know it's also as feasible as well. It

1264
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:25,320
should it says what as soon as we have
the RP.

1265
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,719
So,
>> oh, is it a motion to unless you take it

1266
01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:41,600
away or
>> No. Um,

1267
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:48,159
so if I So, is it best to Chris to
resend the motion or to um without a

1268
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:51,840
second or
>> second?

1269
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:56,280
Teresa did. Yep, that's right. I'm
sorry. Do you want us to

1270
01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:05,280
» No, you still have 20% the motion,
right?

1271
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:07,760
» Yeah. Trying to try to conditionally
approve.

1272
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:12,719
» It seems like the general feeling of the
board is, you know, we need to have a

1273
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:17,920
final draft from Alex. So, I I would be
fine with the having an emergency

1274
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:23,760
meeting in the near future to go ahead
and take the uh send the motion to this.

1275
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:29,280
» Okay. So, do uh I'll just say I resend a
motion. Anything else required for me?

1276
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:32,400
» Do I have to resend my second?
>> No.

1277
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:36,400
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1278
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:41,280
» Okay.
Uh the next thing on the agenda, um

1279
01:42:40,345 --> 01:42:50,880
[clears throat and snorts]
East Street Culver update. Um,

1280
01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:56,480
Alex did Alex Herman did locate a
covert,

1281
01:42:53,280 --> 01:43:01,840
a galvanized covert. So, it should work.
So, they're hopeful, staying hopeful

1282
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:04,400
that we can get that done uh sooner than
later. So,

1283
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:10,480
» concrete anymore?
>> Not at this point. If that he feels it

1284
01:43:06,639 --> 01:43:14,880
would be durable and do the job and it
was an aluminum cover. So, where is this

1285
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:19,600
» for East Street?
>> A little bit of color for East Street.

1286
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:21,920
» Yeah. Yep. That
>> was

1287
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:26,719
» Yeah.
>> So, that's encouraging because uh that

1288
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:32,239
way we can address that much quicker.
>> You know, Cody got final plans.

1289
01:43:30,239 --> 01:43:35,239
» Don't know that. I haven't seen.
>> Yeah.

1290
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:44,400
» Okay, moving on. Uh I we have to just do
a bit of housekeeping to approve the new

1291
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:49,360
hire. Tanner Cole, of course, Cody has
that um

1292
01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:55,119
uh latitude to do his own hiring, but uh
the board always formalizes it um with a

1293
01:43:52,719 --> 01:44:01,000
vote. So I make a motion that we approve
the new MEO hire Tanner Cole.

1294
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:09,199
» Any discussion?
>> No.

1295
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:12,199
standard.
Uh

1296
01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:17,280
» yes.
>> Yes.

1297
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:20,800
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1298
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:26,560
» Yes.
>> And we'll get right on before we close

1299
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:32,000
out of highway. We'll get on with Alex
and um also

1300
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:37,679
uh we talked about the Westiana
sidewalks. on the section of sidewalk,

1301
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:45,280
the DOT specs that we've pointed out
have made the uh the bids come in so

1302
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:49,280
much higher. So, um Will has an idea um
to um in the future reaching out to the

1303
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:54,480
DOT
um for some assistance with that. And

1304
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:59,119
so, um we've got other things in the
hopper with them. And when you get those

1305
01:44:56,320 --> 01:45:03,119
done, we could do our best to see about
the sidewalks

1306
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:08,159
in Westana,
which makes me think about the bus

1307
01:45:04,719 --> 01:45:14,560
shelter, too. Um, people walking to get
to that bus shelter. You know, they need

1308
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:18,480
to have a sidewalk to get there.
>> No, it doesn't go that far, but at least

1309
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:24,400
it gets to force lane.
You got you got sidewalks here that are

1310
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:26,560
painting. So we really should get D to
follow.

1311
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:30,400
Right.
>> Right.

1312
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:37,280
» Especially if you put you must
>> like a a a resolution to the DOT

1313
01:45:34,719 --> 01:45:43,360
them to let the DOT know that the specs
that that they uh given us make it just

1314
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:48,719
exponentially higher
um to get that segment of cycle.

1315
01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:55,840
Okay. Okay, I guess that's it on
highway. Anything else from anyone else?

1316
01:45:52,239 --> 01:46:00,800
Okay, go ahead. Thank you, Will.
>> Uh, so we are going to Thank you all for

1317
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:06,800
your work on those items last season.
Those things moving. Um, public safety.

1318
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:12,159
» Thanks. Yep. In public safety, we had a
resident from Richard's Avenue. Um

1319
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:17,760
Melanie came and addressed the board um
on behalf of her and another

1320
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:22,960
uh some other neighbors who noticed uh
the ongoing speeding concerns, children

1321
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:28,288
from the All-Star village uh you know
visiting in the area playing ball um

1322
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:33,679
worried about traffic uh speeding a
[clears throat] lock down Richard. So,

1323
01:46:30,159 --> 01:46:38,719
um, we're going to move forward, um, and
look at some sort of calming, uh, bumps

1324
01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:44,400
or something, uh, you get that going.
Cody is aware and it's on his radar to

1325
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,920
do something about that to slow that
traffic down.

1326
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,840
» Okay.
>> On Richard's app. So, that was all I had

1327
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:52,719
on that.
>> Yeah. I think, right, they said that

1328
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:59,280
like the you don't believe those are
very expensive, right? Possibly commons.

1329
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:02,280
No, they're I mean
relatively

1330
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:08,960
I mean a lot I mean I don't know what
your version of a lot is under thousand

1331
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:15,840
dollars. Oh, I mean, yeah. Versus, you
know, several hundreds of thousands per

1332
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:20,880
» low cost and Y [clears throat] talk
about highway and that what's the uh

1333
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:27,040
project status
uh lancher bridge or

1334
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:31,760
» I have [clears throat] heard nothing.
It's does anyone know? Yeah.

1335
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:39,199
» Yeah, I think the guys are still working
on it. Um uh and when they get clean

1336
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:42,639
well they were still fixing up they were
still dealing with the property dealing

1337
01:47:41,440 --> 01:47:46,159
with uh
>> purchasing.

1338
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:52,159
» Yeah the
dissected the gas they had to locate the

1339
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:55,679
gas is done the gas is all done. I
thought the rightway until I thought we

1340
01:47:53,199 --> 01:48:00,960
finalized right away saying there that
was the last uh update like and so

1341
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:05,639
things and all that on their ads. Who
knows?

1342
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,639
» Uh but um

1343
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:11,679
the juice as well.
>> Yeah, I haven't

1344
01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:16,760
» can't imagine this year though.
>> Yeah, none of that has happened. Yeah,

1345
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:24,000
» we're not doing that. That's That's
>> No, I'm making sure.

1346
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:26,800
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm making sure enough
that

1347
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:30,239
are just not doing anything.
>> Yeah. Bridge New York. It's 100% funded.

1348
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:34,360
Yeah.
>> Does it cost the same?

1349
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,360
» Yeah.

1350
01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:42,119
» Thank you.
>> Yeah.

1351
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:42,119
» Thank you. Any further blob season one

1352
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:52,480
legislator
>> legislative committee met on last Monday

1353
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:56,239
and we're going to ask Trish for
short-term rental update.

1354
01:48:54,159 --> 01:49:04,320
» Yeah. Our next meeting is Monday for
short-term rentals Monday at 5:30.

1355
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:14,400
Um and we discussed the 250
ft um buffer. Um this is for future

1356
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:20,800
applications. Uh uh the 250 ft buffer to
help uh with the density issues in

1357
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:27,480
neighborhoods. So Teresa, anything else
that we wanted to include? I think

1358
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,480
that's good. The buffer was the biggest.

1359
01:49:28,239 --> 01:49:37,600
taking my notes.
>> I could again I put minutes up on the e

1360
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:42,159
code if anybody read them. Uh I can just
read from it. Uh right now committee is

1361
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:47,199
going over possible revisions to the
proposed log. Uh committee's working on

1362
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:52,800
the size of the proposed we're working
on the size of the proposed short-term

1363
01:49:49,280 --> 01:50:00,080
rental cap size of the buffer zone and
some possible numbers being discussed

1364
01:49:54,800 --> 01:50:06,406
with Trish Medson. Um, and we've got we
just uh received from

1365
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:10,400
Dian Carlton a draft blog
[clears throat] we got to go through

1366
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:15,440
before our next meeting
and um

1367
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:22,800
so it's very detailed. So we're we're
just trying to do our best um

1368
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:28,400
to provide um
a good start.

1369
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:32,080
» Yeah.
You got anything?

1370
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:36,239
» No. Thank you very much for the
additional

1371
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:43,760
» You guys are proposing a law.
>> Well, yes, we're working on legislation

1372
01:50:39,679 --> 01:50:49,679
uh to uh and which also incorporates
um blighted properties being uh exempt

1373
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:55,679
from the cap if they're being used. if
if blighted properties are um being

1374
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:58,960
purchased um for rehabilitation, there's
something they have.

1375
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:03,119
» So that's the proposed law.
>> But that's these are elements of it.

1376
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:07,840
There's so I'm just saying we're trying
to incorporate we've been listening to

1377
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:14,080
suggestions and we're doing our best to
come up with something that's very sound

1378
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:18,000
and appropriate and something will be um
we've heard good suggestions so we're

1379
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:23,119
doing our best to
>> just to clarify yes the task force are

1380
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:29,600
working together on just recommendations
on based permanent research and pres

1381
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:35,199
presenters surveys uh and then it's up
to us to determine and you know what we

1382
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:38,639
will or not do just so like even though
anyone can you know any task force can

1383
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:43,840
provide recommendations but at the end
of the day it's you know the board

1384
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:46,560
someone says law and what do you think
you have a public hearing before you

1385
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,679
post law
>> of course it goes through all of that I

1386
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:54,320
just wanted
>> it goes through all the normal steps

1387
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:57,280
» but it would go through all that it
wouldn't even it's not even being it

1388
01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:01,119
would have to get introduced we have to
you know all talk about it in our

1389
01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:07,360
meetings and all those kind of things.
>> Yeah. Makes me a little nervous.

1390
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:10,639
» Yes. Public hearing law.
Okay.

1391
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:16,480
» It's still still a committee stage. So
there's a meeting on Monday 17 and then

1392
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:22,960
the following Monday other meeting at
5:00

1393
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:26,320
and then we skip a week and then we got
another meeting on what? Tuesday the 1st

1394
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,040
5:30.
>> Yes. Yes. And that's as far as we're

1395
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:31,840
scheduled out
>> at this point.

1396
01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:35,440
» And how many
>> three left?

1397
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:38,880
» No, I mean in general like how many
>> Oh my gosh. I know. Started since

1398
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:43,119
February
March the core committee started and

1399
01:52:41,679 --> 01:52:46,360
then Yeah.
>> Which one?

1400
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:53,280
» March. March. No, March.
>> Yeah.

1401
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:58,560
» No, no, first meeting was February 25th.
It's [clears throat] been a dedication

1402
01:52:55,760 --> 01:53:01,280
of time and um yeah, we put a lot of
work into it.

1403
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:04,960
» Thank you all.
>> Thank you.

1404
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:10,960
» And we we're also working on some other
topics. Uh

1405
01:53:07,119 --> 01:53:18,400
we we got the data center moratorum.
We've got hammer out that local law. Uh

1406
01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:24,639
we worked on watershed protection law.
Um, we had some ideas for monthly

1407
01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:31,880
financial reports. I did a draft. We're
encouraging partners that uh we're

1408
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,880
working on town.

1409
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:40,679
Anybody's got any ideas or thoughts,
just email us and um

1410
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:48,199
we'll take a look at it. Thanks.
>> Thank you.

1411
01:53:52,239 --> 01:54:00,880
Um, okay. Take your will.
>> Yeah. Sorry.

1412
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:04,800
» All right. So, we have to um uh we're
going to have discussion on the local

1413
01:54:02,159 --> 01:54:11,599
law amending section 65-1
of the town regarding uh professional uh

1414
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:18,560
escro fees. Um
just so we are all aware of that. Um so,

1415
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:22,239
Kristen, why? Sure. Um the one that got
filed did not include the language

1416
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:28,400
requiring
when there is a SWIP requires automatic

1417
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:32,080
SRO. So that was decided at the board
and so that just didn't make it into the

1418
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:36,979
version that was sent off. So that will
be the only change.

1419
01:54:34,959 --> 01:54:36,979
[clears throat]

1420
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:42,164
» So don't we have to have another public
hearing?

1421
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:44,719
» Yeah. So we started out the whole time.
[clears throat]

1422
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:47,679
» So the law is in place. If you see one
that comes but hypothetically you see a

1423
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:51,599
swift come in instead of it
automatically happening the town board

1424
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:57,040
can just make the decision we see a
swift we determine this to be worthy of

1425
01:54:54,400 --> 01:55:03,360
an escrow but the town board had
determined that just from the meeting to

1426
01:55:00,719 --> 01:55:08,000
me getting it into the paper got missed
or if I got on the paper flash it just

1427
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:11,599
wasn't the one that was submitted that
included that language.

1428
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:15,920
» Here's a question for you. I know bigger
projects right? Yep.

1429
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:20,880
» They're going to submit a slip program.
Right. So, their engineers design it.

1430
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:26,880
» Right.
Comes to the code office. Yep.

1431
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:32,719
We have no control over it. We can have
an outside engineer look at it. The DEC

1432
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:37,920
controls that whole function.
So,

1433
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:44,560
why would we
why would we cue a retainer?

1434
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:48,159
because we're not going to take it.
The idea our engineer look at it because

1435
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:53,280
it doesn't matter what our engineer
says. It depends on what DEC says. So I

1436
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:56,719
can't speak for what you all on the
board decide. Your reasoning behind your

1437
01:55:55,199 --> 01:56:00,719
decision to include that more than
likely was the fact that it can have a

1438
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:04,239
SWIP. It is encompassing other factors
where you might actually need the escro.

1439
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:07,599
So the SWIP isn't the fact that you're
saying the money is going to be used for

1440
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:11,119
that. But if you have something that is
incorporating where you have to do a

1441
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:14,480
SWIP, you might be doing other work that
you will be using the SRO for.

1442
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:20,000
» Well, I can't speak to what
>> we should be forthright with the

1443
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:24,639
applicant tell
the application.

1444
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:31,280
» Yeah, I'm going to be honest with that
more with regards to this law. I think

1445
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:35,599
I guess the more time I've had to think
about it.

1446
01:56:33,599 --> 01:56:41,119
Uh [sighs]
I don't understand why we would ever New

1447
01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:46,560
York State professional engineers stamp
when they've stamped that. Why would we

1448
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:50,000
ever uh we can't second guess that we
shouldn't pay or have them pay to have a

1449
01:56:48,639 --> 01:56:55,840
double engineer look at their own
engineering? Um that that troubles me.

1450
01:56:53,679 --> 01:57:01,360
uh it's it's double just they're double
paying for something. Um that stamp

1451
01:56:58,239 --> 01:57:05,760
right there says it's certified. Um and
then that's why engineers go defensively

1452
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:09,760
have insurance based on that um to
protect them in the event they made a

1453
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:15,440
mistake. Um so I'm a little troubled
that we can require

1454
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:19,599
a company or for that matter an
individual that might not be able to a

1455
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:23,280
small I mean not every application is
large as some of the ones we have now.

1456
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:25,920
someone small might might need a squat
and all of a sudden now they've got

1457
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:30,880
professional fees for all kinds of
things. Um and like we saw with the two

1458
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:35,760
housing developments that recently
pulled the plug. It's just it just might

1459
01:57:33,679 --> 01:57:39,520
be the cost might be too much to do
business and I want to say we're open

1460
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:44,080
for business. I want to say how can we
help not how can we charge you as much

1461
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:46,639
as humanly possible to make sure we're
covered.

1462
01:57:44,639 --> 01:57:50,400
» Well, I could also say that we are open
for business and want development but

1463
01:57:48,159 --> 01:57:54,480
not at the backs of the taxpayers. uh
because the taxpayer shouldn't be using

1464
01:57:52,560 --> 01:58:00,560
uh their money to fund someone else's
projects. Uh that's what it's for is to

1465
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:07,440
have a third party opinion on behalf of
the town and not going forward with um u

1466
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:10,960
anyone else's opinions because as as
many know you can pay for anyone to

1467
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:16,800
provide you with the opinion that you
want to hear. Uh and as far as as far as

1468
01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:20,880
the engineer issue, uh I would suggest
that you speak with our town engineer uh

1469
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:24,880
because when I had my conversation with
them, uh it's a lot different than what

1470
01:58:22,639 --> 01:58:30,320
you're sharing uh in regards to what
engineers share when they do this review

1471
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:35,040
uh because he does this uh review many
times for other municipalities. And so

1472
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:40,880
he's not necessarily saying what they're
doing is wrong or right. Uh but it would

1473
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:45,840
just be just double-checking uh their
work. um uh and just making sure it's

1474
01:58:43,679 --> 01:58:50,800
out it's the best interest of the town
etc. So it's a common practice uh that's

1475
01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:55,040
happening all across you know the state
um if not the country as well. Uh and

1476
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:59,440
you know we all voted unanimously for
that and I think we're also focusing on

1477
01:58:57,199 --> 01:59:03,040
one aspect right just the engineering
and that's not just we're not saying

1478
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:07,440
this is only solely for engineering
where as we can see with other

1479
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:11,760
applications it's for planning uh for
planning experts because not a single

1480
01:59:09,119 --> 01:59:16,000
one person here is a planning expert. So
when I can sit here and say that we have

1481
01:59:14,239 --> 01:59:21,280
planning experts that are looking at
every single uh document to provide the

1482
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:26,000
best opinion uh for the town and the
planning board uh and as you said the

1483
01:59:23,679 --> 01:59:30,719
most difficult uh application that we
have ever seen that's why it's there so

1484
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:36,000
that the taxpayers as it has it happened
in the past are the ones um forking the

1485
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:43,119
bill for our applications that come in
and so um uh you know I think many

1486
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:48,719
developers who know how to do business.
Um uh understand that this is part of it

1487
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:54,560
and that you know this the town has just
uh needs to modernize uh of it and you

1488
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:59,360
know us doing this on behalf of the town
and the applications now just solidifies

1489
01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:03,440
their investment even more because now
they can share with their investors,

1490
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:08,159
their bankers, insurance companies that
they had many levels of of reviewing it.

1491
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:12,000
And so this is just we're not making any
money by any means. We're not keeping

1492
02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:17,280
the money. Um uh it's just using that
money to um provide the town uh and all

1493
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:21,840
the members serving on their volunteer
committees with the expert knowledge uh

1494
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:24,320
that they need to make a decision for
the town.

1495
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:29,119
» Well, maybe I rephrase that. I'm
concerned about the trigger. what

1496
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:33,760
triggers the expert and because not
every project is as big I understand

1497
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:38,000
village it makes absolutely sense that
that's and yes they it what you said

1498
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:41,360
does make sense for that but I'm talking
about smaller projects and things of

1499
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:45,840
this nature where there are no investors
it's the person doing it

1500
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:52,000
» and uh that that's where my concern is
that that there is no

1501
02:00:48,639 --> 02:00:57,119
» tangible trigger per se or quantifiable
trigger other than a suggestion and and

1502
02:00:55,119 --> 02:01:01,840
And and in terms of the taxpayers, we do
pay we pay a code enforcer. Uh we pay

1503
02:00:59,920 --> 02:01:07,679
you know we pay the board we do pay
other people within the county right to

1504
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:12,880
have decision making process.
>> I mean yeah yes they do but they're also

1505
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:19,840
not you know experts that have been
doing this forever um uh and you know

1506
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:22,239
day in and day out as well. But, you
know, I think we're getting caught up in

1507
02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:25,520
the fact that
>> at the end of the day, the board still

1508
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:30,000
has to approve the escro, right? It's
not like one person here is approving

1509
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:34,080
it. And so, it it has to that was the
point of law that I brought up is there

1510
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,800
had to be a town board approved. We
haven't approved anything.

1511
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:42,719
» Yes, you're not.
>> No, listen. So, so we got we got an

1512
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:45,920
escrow for him. We just took a check. It
didn't go in front.

1513
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:51,040
» Yes, it did.
>> No, Joe. Yes, it did. 100,000% did. We

1514
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:53,599
have the resolutions and the votes on
it. We can share it.

1515
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:58,800
» This last one we just did.
>> We absolutely have the we have we have

1516
02:01:56,159 --> 02:02:02,080
the votes
>> village.

1517
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:08,480
» Yes, I I certainly show it to you. We
all voted yes for it. Um on it

1518
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:10,880
» as a board member too. I'm I'm not glad
that we

1519
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:15,199
» did have two esro because we have two
applications.

1520
02:02:13,199 --> 02:02:21,360
» What? because there was two applications
and that's what the guys said for us. I

1521
02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:29,040
remember one
for sure.

1522
02:02:24,159 --> 02:02:35,840
» And I have a question. Um I I got the
the language for that came from the town

1523
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:40,320
attorney. Was that the ide did the
did the idea to revise this come from

1524
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:44,000
town attorney or did it come from the
board? Where did it come from? What are

1525
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:49,199
you advising?
>> No, you were saying that you you wanted

1526
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:52,480
to amend second
town.

1527
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:56,480
» Is it is it
>> originally? I can't remember if we're

1528
02:02:55,199 --> 02:03:02,560
the ones who proposed it or the town
board proposed it, but the town board

1529
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:06,520
voted on it. And so that language when
the town board voted just didn't make

1530
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:09,040
file that was sent out and filed.
>> [clears throat]

1531
02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:13,040
» So the version that is filed requires a
town board consent on any application

1532
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:18,159
coming in. It does not require an
automatic escrow or a SWIP.

1533
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:22,239
» The town board wants to elect to
determine that a SWIP will require an

1534
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:25,280
escrow. It can do so right now, but it
is not automatic right now.

1535
02:03:24,205 --> 02:03:30,639
[clears throat]
>> So I did we we did look at it like that.

1536
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:35,040
We it just didn't go into the final law.
>> Not you know someone pull the minutes

1537
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:37,360
and look at that if you wanted to.
You're still evaluating determining

1538
02:03:36,639 --> 02:03:42,800
whether it
>> Yes. So, just so yes, we all voted on

1539
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:49,280
that original language. It just when it
was uh entered uh on, you know, the the

1540
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:53,960
firm's end uh it just wasn't entered
that way, but we all voted on that exact

1541
02:03:55,599 --> 02:04:04,480
I'm grateful that we have this new
process as a board member over the

1542
02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:08,639
political pressures involved. Um
I I I want to do things the right way.

1543
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:14,400
We've also learned too looking at past
projects, you know, the engineering that

1544
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:19,280
we always get that we often get. It's
it's nice to have another set of eyes on

1545
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:23,840
it. Um you know, from the developers
engineering versus it's nice to have a

1546
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:29,440
set of eyes for the town. So, as a board
member over the years, like I said, um

1547
02:04:27,679 --> 02:04:34,560
political pressure, I'm grateful for
this. Uh I think it's we're going to

1548
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:39,119
have quality products as a result. I
think it will be better done and I'm

1549
02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:45,119
looking forward to doing things uh what
I feel is right and doing them the right

1550
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:50,560
way. So it gives me more confidence
uh going forward. So that's all I have.

1551
02:04:47,679 --> 02:04:55,760
» Trish, you said on several occasions uh
projects were influenced by political

1552
02:04:52,239 --> 02:04:59,679
pressure. I I I don't know what you're
talking about. So, I just kind of

1553
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:03,199
curious if you could clarify the
instruments where that was the case

1554
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:05,679
because I don't know that anyone ever
felt

1555
02:05:03,599 --> 02:05:09,199
» Well, I've never
>> Well,

1556
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:12,239
forced in any way, shape, or form vote
anyway.

1557
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:17,440
» No, I think you're right as far as that.
I mean, I've never voted for something I

1558
02:05:14,239 --> 02:05:24,800
didn't believe in or feel that was the
right thing. So, I've logged in no

1559
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:28,080
votes. So, um I I feel that there's an
element of pressure. I think it's nice

1560
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:35,119
when we can have that reviewed and have
the facts. It gives us a chance to make

1561
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:38,080
a more informed decision as a board.
>> Um,

1562
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:41,440
» listen, I I agree with that. I I'm not
going to disagree with that. I just,

1563
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:45,199
like I said, I just concerned about the
trigger, what what triggers without

1564
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:50,199
anything specifically [clears throat]
written any kind of quantitative.

1565
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:57,920
» So, I mean, look, that's my opinion.
>> No, no. I mean, No, I just want to

1566
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:03,280
clarify. So, again, we had that whole
conversation at that initial resolution

1567
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:09,760
that we passed. And so, and so it's it's
the only issue [clears throat] even with

1568
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:13,360
that language that we all agreed on, it
still comes to the board, right? Like,

1569
02:06:11,520 --> 02:06:17,760
so the board there's a resolution, we
all discuss it, we enact it. So, it

1570
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:21,599
still comes to it. So even if it's a if
it's a smaller application, it can still

1571
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:25,760
come to the board and we could say oh
actually you know we don't obviously I'm

1572
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:30,800
hope you know
we don't get many of the you know large

1573
02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:35,199
applications as we have been but it
could be just hey we can just be a

1574
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:38,639
traffic site again I just like talk and
and it's not needed to be the certain

1575
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:44,880
amount that's at our discretion if we
have it it's just the ones that we have

1576
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:51,840
had uh warrant that way.
So, if the town attorney is trying to

1577
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:56,960
fix um you know, this is like a you
know, this is trying to put in what got

1578
02:06:54,000 --> 02:07:00,239
left out. But
>> we're not voting anything. We're just

1579
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:02,000
setting a public No, we have a civil on
the amendment.

1580
02:07:00,639 --> 02:07:05,440
» You would have to do an amendment.
>> So, we're voting on the amendment that

1581
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:07,679
was in the packet and then and then we
have to set a public hearing on the

1582
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:13,920
amendment.
>> So, the law is on file. So, the law is

1583
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:16,880
filed. It's a valid law. And so an
application comes in the town board and

1584
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:20,880
you have the authority to experiment and
ask where is appropriate. So this would

1585
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:25,599
be an amendment to that law. So your
purposes um you know if you have

1586
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:28,719
different ideas and maybe now how you
would like to view the law you could

1587
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:34,159
think of how you might want to amend
that in a different way.

1588
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:38,960
Well, well, well, let's let's let's talk
us through [clears throat]

1589
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:45,040
street, right? Application came in,
>> right? And we send them a letter

1590
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:50,480
» or code department send a letter saying
we got to have we have a new law. Why

1591
02:07:48,079 --> 02:07:53,280
wouldn't that come in front of them?
>> It did. It did. I'm literally looking at

1592
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:58,719
it right there.
>> It literally did. So whereas the board

1593
02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:02,639
uh whereas the town board should not
receive of applications referring uh

1594
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:06,800
application establishing professional
rescue for silence lane solar project.

1595
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:11,679
So yes we did vote on that. You know
what I'm saying? Did the process right

1596
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:15,360
now the applicant
submitted the application

1597
02:08:13,599 --> 02:08:20,000
» told them they had to have
>> but it should have came to the town

1598
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:24,440
board first to say this is going to it's
up to us to

1599
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:24,440
» Joe did

1600
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:29,239
looking at the resolution right now

1601
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:33,159
made a difference

1602
02:08:35,280 --> 02:08:41,679
talking April. It was in April Menace.
>> Sil.

1603
02:08:39,280 --> 02:08:46,000
» April M. April Menace.
>> Okay. So, I'm looking at one from from

1604
02:08:43,119 --> 02:08:49,280
from Sil.
>> Okay. So, we did that. We did one for

1605
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:53,800
East Street as well. So, I I can totally
show it to you.

1606
02:08:49,840 --> 02:08:53,800
» We're at what meeting with

1607
02:08:54,960 --> 02:09:05,840
» Just keep talking and I'll and I'll s
>> and there's no motion on the floor.

1608
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:08,560
There was a we started discussing
discussing.

1609
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:12,719
» So the planning board I think it be
beneficial if they could also

1610
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:18,239
» the one thing that I would say is the
way the board passed it is creates a

1611
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:22,960
little inconvenience on timing because
the board has to get together and make a

1612
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:26,960
decision on the escro. So whether that
is at a regular schedule board meeting

1613
02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:32,159
or you have to do a special meeting and
create timing consistencies.

1614
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:36,320
Not putting you on the spot, but is that
something that the planning board could

1615
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:40,159
have the leeway to do or do you feel
like it should

1616
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:43,400
go
>> and it's

1617
02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:52,719
» so it's not uncommon for towns to have
supervisor authority this board discuss

1618
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:57,280
» which I don't have to this board discuss
this board discuss and change it to town

1619
02:09:54,719 --> 02:10:00,560
board that inherently creates a scenario
where

1620
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:03,840
has to be presented for the town for the
town to make a decision whether that is

1621
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:09,560
at a regular meeting or if you have to
get together in a special meeting to

1622
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:09,560
speed up the process.

1623
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:20,000
» Yeah. So, so what happens is someone
applies for the application and for the

1624
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:25,199
last ones they applied u uh both uh
Clinton and uh the planning department

1625
02:10:22,400 --> 02:10:30,000
asked for this for you know estros for
the expert fees. So it came to us and

1626
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:34,079
then we passed the resolutions.
>> No, I'm just saying like say say someone

1627
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:37,280
finds out
they say no to do it with their

1628
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:41,440
application fee.
>> Absolutely. Yeah.

1629
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:45,040
Again I mean and our application fee is
a lot minimal versus others again they

1630
02:10:43,599 --> 02:10:51,920
have to still do all this and it's like
10. I just want to know what the process

1631
02:10:47,679 --> 02:10:53,199
is or what it's going to be.
>> So I think

1632
02:10:52,480 --> 02:11:00,480
» I'm not clear.
>> Yeah. So the the process is right right

1633
02:10:56,560 --> 02:11:09,360
now what we voted on at the end of the
day if us as a board or the planning

1634
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:16,320
board or uh the code officer feel that a
escro fee is needed for an application

1635
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:20,560
we will have we have the authority to to
enact it. Okay. So meaning a resolution

1636
02:11:19,119 --> 02:11:26,960
will be here. There'll be discussion on
all this just like we have um uh and

1637
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:32,880
then uh it will pass or not. Okay. Then
the um uh I'm just sharing what has been

1638
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:38,400
happened. Then the applicant gets the
letter. Okay. Uh the you know the the

1639
02:11:36,719 --> 02:11:42,800
resolution attached to it, the voting
language, everything. Uh they decide if

1640
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:46,880
they're going to pay for it or not. uh
uh and if they don't uh they get a

1641
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:53,040
letter from us uh like others have that
um their application is suspended um uh

1642
02:11:49,920 --> 02:12:00,159
or denied whatever it is and uh because
they didn't follow our local law um and

1643
02:11:56,719 --> 02:12:06,159
so that's what happens
>> I remember talking about solo project

1644
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:11,280
but I I don't recall a resolution for
professional service but

1645
02:12:08,639 --> 02:12:15,280
» I mean I will I'm looking through it
>> the town clerk says it was in the June

1646
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:17,440
22nd special meeting.
>> Thank you.

1647
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:22,480
» Thank you.
>> So, we got to check those minutes.

1648
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:28,760
» Can we get a resolution for professional
service? Correct. Right here. I'll pull

1649
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,760
that right up.

1650
02:12:29,171 --> 02:12:31,191
[clears throat]

1651
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:40,880
» Yes. June 22nd. Resolution of receiving
the application referring application

1652
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:44,400
establishing professional escro fees for
East Street Solar Project.

1653
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:50,000
» That's Yep.
>> Uh

1654
02:12:46,560 --> 02:12:54,480
June 22nd special meeting. We all voted
yes

1655
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:57,840
» and they they they
re

1656
02:12:55,040 --> 02:13:01,280
» they did not letter too. Correct.
>> We sent them two letters and their

1657
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:05,520
project is
>> okay.

1658
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:08,920
because they didn't pay their escer,
right?

1659
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,920
» Absolutely.

1660
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:17,599
» So, it worked.
Um, but yes, so again, they're all going

1661
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:26,000
the resolutions are all going in. Um,
uh, and and and uh I don't have sole

1662
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:31,599
authority to uh enact it. Uh I
so we're still here discussing to fix

1663
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:36,400
that's enacted at the state level versus
what we voted and pass.

1664
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:40,960
» So so look this is this is sort of like
a patch. We put the patch on the tire

1665
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:45,599
the tires got a hole. Put the patch on.
But to speak to what the other end of

1666
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:52,079
the table is saying, if there is some
sort of um almost like with the data

1667
02:13:48,480 --> 02:13:55,679
center law, um is there like a threshold
triggered like like you guys are saying,

1668
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:59,280
I don't know if there's some way to
build that into the verbiage of the law

1669
02:13:58,159 --> 02:14:05,520
or or not?
>> I I think what you know, the way it is

1670
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:10,400
right now, we're receiving all of them.
But if there is some way to to screen

1671
02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:14,159
out the smaller projects, um
>> it's it's up to our discretion at the

1672
02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:18,880
end of the day. So it could it could
still come here and we all could vote no

1673
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:23,679
or or majority says yes or no, whatever
it is. And so it's up to our discretion

1674
02:14:21,119 --> 02:14:27,840
to even enact it or even push it
forward.

1675
02:14:24,639 --> 02:14:31,040
» Could be built into a future revision of
the law at some point.

1676
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:35,040
» Absolutely.
>> I mean anytime. We could change anything

1677
02:14:32,639 --> 02:14:39,599
anytime. Yeah.
But I mean, we're still we still have to

1678
02:14:37,599 --> 02:14:43,280
be the ones enacting it, right? Like, so
no matter what it is, we are the ones

1679
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:48,639
enacting it. We're enacting the amounts.
We're enacting, you know, um uh time

1680
02:14:46,719 --> 02:14:53,679
frames, whatever it is, it's us who are
doing it. No person here or planning

1681
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:58,719
board or code officer is the one doing
this. We are all voting on this just

1682
02:14:56,320 --> 02:15:03,520
like we have been.
I mean, we could certainly send you

1683
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:06,079
step-by-step, you know, guide if you all
wanted, but we've been doing it

1684
02:15:05,599 --> 02:15:10,358
» right
>> correctly since [laughter]

1685
02:15:14,159 --> 02:15:17,480
we have a motion.

1686
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:21,560
» We'll make a motion.

1687
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:34,480
» Um, I make a motion we vote to approve
the local law. Um, amending section 65-1

1688
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:37,480
of the town code regarding professional
services.

1689
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:45,679
» Schedule a public hearing.
>> Right.

1690
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:48,400
» Yes.
>> We're not.

1691
02:15:46,960 --> 02:15:51,760
» I'm sorry.
>> Public hearing.

1692
02:15:49,119 --> 02:15:54,880
» Got it. For the
>> Thank you.

1693
02:15:53,760 --> 02:16:00,239
That's why you said you had to make the
resolution first and then public.

1694
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:04,239
» Well, I mean, we could do a business the
vote. We could do a resolution to

1695
02:16:01,599 --> 02:16:09,280
introduce That's why I put that um on
there was cuz typically we've been

1696
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:14,320
voting to introduce it. [clears throat]
>> Uh and then from there, we should

1697
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:18,560
necessarily have to do it that way, but
that's just how we do it,

1698
02:16:15,679 --> 02:16:23,119
» right? Vote to set us. So first, so
first we would just what I I put it

1699
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:26,560
based on what we've been doing is you
vote to introduce it and then you vote

1700
02:16:25,119 --> 02:16:31,760
for the public.
>> Yeah.

1701
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:36,639
» Can I do it in one vote? One motion
or do you want two motions?

1702
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,479
» You got to rephrase it.
>> Yeah.

1703
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:42,479
» Okay. [clears throat]
>> Yeah. to uh make a motion vote to

1704
02:16:40,800 --> 02:16:47,200
introduce
um

1705
02:16:44,479 --> 02:16:51,280
uh a local law amending section 651 of
the town code regarding professional

1706
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:56,080
services.
>> Second.

1707
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:59,719
» I'll second.
Any further discussion?

1708
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,080
» All right.

1709
02:17:03,519 --> 02:17:08,960
» Yes.
>> No.

1710
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:15,519
» Yes.
All yes. Yes. Motion. Thank you.

1711
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:19,599
» Now part two.
>> Yes.

1712
02:17:16,800 --> 02:17:27,120
» That we set a public hearing
um for the aforementioned

1713
02:17:23,439 --> 02:17:31,599
um law.
So I made a motion to set in public

1714
02:17:29,439 --> 02:17:37,024
hearing. Do we need a date on that? I
send the next meeting.

1715
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:40,479
» Wednesday, September 9th.
[clears throat]

1716
02:17:37,519 --> 02:17:45,399
» 7:05 p.m., please.
>> Yes.

1717
02:17:40,960 --> 02:17:45,399
» Yep. Add or sounds good, right?

1718
02:17:45,840 --> 02:17:53,200
» Second.
>> Yes.

1719
02:17:50,240 --> 02:18:00,120
» Any further discussion?
All right. Tuesday. Good. No. Good. All

1720
02:17:57,120 --> 02:18:00,120
right.

1721
02:18:00,319 --> 02:18:04,639
» Yes.
Yes.

1722
02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:07,639
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1723
02:18:08,880 --> 02:18:18,559
» Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh now we also have um a

1724
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:24,240
discussion on the zoning map amendment
application

1725
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:30,135
uh for Coopertown Hall
that we have all had in our packets.

1726
02:18:27,599 --> 02:18:30,135
Thank you. [clears throat]

1727
02:18:39,439 --> 02:18:42,679
who wants

1728
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:48,599
well.

1729
02:18:49,359 --> 02:18:55,025
What is it we're I understand they're
looking for. [clears throat]

1730
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:06,639
Are there any as a town recognize any
proposed problems with

1731
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:10,319
set amendments or
>> So we I believe we all got the maps. It

1732
02:19:09,439 --> 02:19:15,399
all makes sense.
>> Yeah.

1733
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,399
Um uh

1734
02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:26,960
so they're all like you know they're
consolidated under the PD uh uh and the

1735
02:19:23,519 --> 02:19:34,639
planning board uh is currently the lead
for this uh while we are also having our

1736
02:19:30,960 --> 02:19:42,000
planning experts review everything um um
to provide their comments shortly to us.

1737
02:19:38,479 --> 02:19:45,519
um except we have to refer this back to
the planning board since we were already

1738
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:50,240
determined
because we provide this back to the

1739
02:19:48,240 --> 02:19:54,640
planning board from the original
application that was provided to us. So

1740
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:58,359
you would be modifying your referral to
save a consulting

1741
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:04,479
because we get a referral to the
planning board from their original

1742
02:20:02,399 --> 02:20:07,677
application
which their planning board is working

1743
02:20:05,920 --> 02:20:10,319
through their motions for it
[clears throat] and then once the

1744
02:20:08,479 --> 02:20:13,640
planning board is done they will send it
back to us.

1745
02:20:14,880 --> 02:20:20,000
And are they aware that that was
originally

1746
02:20:18,160 --> 02:20:23,960
when
uh PD [clears throat] for

1747
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:31,760
» there was the RA who are you referring
to?

1748
02:20:28,399 --> 02:20:37,120
» Well, plan board at one time. There were
previously in discussion

1749
02:20:33,920 --> 02:20:40,680
uh several years ago about changing all
that and

1750
02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:49,120
» changing what? changing
>> well to B2 when they changed it

1751
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:53,439
» to B2 and then they had discussed about
making that all PDD

1752
02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:58,640
» to make it contiguous
uh but the property owners at the time

1753
02:20:55,280 --> 02:21:02,720
didn't think that it was beneficial and
so it already had been discussed I just

1754
02:21:00,319 --> 02:21:06,920
didn't know if
those discussions have been private

1755
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:14,560
what are they looking for us from us
>> I mean so essentially Um I have to have

1756
02:21:13,439 --> 02:21:21,040
notes on this because this is so
difficult but um uh they consolidated

1757
02:21:18,240 --> 02:21:27,200
all their number of applications
um and so they are looking uh the

1758
02:21:24,880 --> 02:21:33,680
primary application being an expansion
of the existing plans develop in a

1759
02:21:29,280 --> 02:21:38,880
district established uh for uh the site
uh a plan development district is a

1760
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:41,680
particularized zoning change uh to allow
specific developments that do not

1761
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:47,840
necessarily
all of the nuances of a normal zoning

1762
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:56,080
change and various site plans. Um and so
uh we are now going to um move the

1763
02:21:53,120 --> 02:22:02,880
amendments back to uh the planning board
since they already had it. We got a new

1764
02:21:58,880 --> 02:22:06,720
we got a new amended application um uh
from them and so now we're going to just

1765
02:22:04,960 --> 02:22:10,800
refer that back to uh
>> and it won't be segmented. It'll be

1766
02:22:10,319 --> 02:22:16,080
segment.
>> Yeah. So instead of them doing all of

1767
02:22:13,439 --> 02:22:21,760
these things separately, it's going to
be one expanded project for all to

1768
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:27,280
review and for the whole public hearing
um to be all in the same thing like

1769
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:28,560
comments, questions um to be discussed
on that.

1770
02:22:28,503 --> 02:22:34,000
» [clears throat]
>> And speaking to the materials that were

1771
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:38,800
sent over um in that packet, there was a
concern from DOT.

1772
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:45,120
Um I'm wondering was it addressed saying
that the they the DOT believed the maps

1773
02:22:42,399 --> 02:22:51,359
the maps that were produced were not um
did not accurately take into account the

1774
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:53,520
actual DOT borders. And did you guys
catch that?

1775
02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:57,760
» The actual what?
>> The DOT in the DOT's comments. They said

1776
02:22:56,399 --> 02:23:00,560
» No, I got that part. Glad you said the
DOT and then I remember the

1777
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:02,560
» borders borders
>> the borders

1778
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:07,040
» borders
>> the the DOT boundaries of their they

1779
02:23:05,439 --> 02:23:12,560
they said they weren't accurately
represented on on these uh

1780
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:18,720
» the sendback right away.
>> Yeah, that's what D said. So I mean

1781
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:24,160
because if if we're referring it back to
planning board, we're saying it's

1782
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:27,439
completed application. Is that correct?
I mean, we're we're we're giving a send

1783
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:32,319
back.
>> Well, I mean, there also been

1784
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:37,600
conversations with um Flint uh and them
and and their attorneys uh as well. Uh

1785
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:43,600
so that could have already been answered
um uh um as well. Uh and I'm lacking in

1786
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:47,600
what's happening at the planning board
um as right now with that application,

1787
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:49,520
» but they already have that because they
already have that. The planning board

1788
02:23:48,880 --> 02:23:54,960
has all this.
>> No, I know. But everything has final.

1789
02:23:52,240 --> 02:24:00,080
» Yeah. By us sending it back to them,
we're we're basically saying that we

1790
02:23:56,960 --> 02:24:05,600
agree it's completed application.
>> No, no, no. Because they're going to

1791
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:09,359
have to send it back to us after
>> Yeah. So they're going to get ideas with

1792
02:24:07,040 --> 02:24:15,439
their planning board stuff back to us
>> and D that was the first comment D

1793
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:18,160
three or four times.
>> Well, so the comment that you got to

1794
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:22,000
design.
>> Yeah, that was that was the first

1795
02:24:19,680 --> 02:24:27,520
comment. Okay. And so then they
submitted new new designs that they're

1796
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:30,720
still waiting um feedback on
as well.

1797
02:24:28,319 --> 02:24:35,040
» So the town board is still waiting and
long.

1798
02:24:32,080 --> 02:24:37,680
» Okay.
>> Once they have that ready to start

1799
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:39,920
moving.
>> Okay.

1800
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:45,280
» Yeah.
>> Uh and as part of those recommendations

1801
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:52,880
again uh our plan consultants are
reviewing everything. Um uh they have

1802
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:58,640
been in conversations uh with um uh our
town engineer as well uh who was aware

1803
02:24:55,600 --> 02:25:02,800
of this um um um and you know he shared
exactly what I shared with you that he's

1804
02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:08,080
not here to say no you can't do this no
you can't do that so happy to have him

1805
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:13,760
you know present that at some point um
so that's kind of where we're at and

1806
02:25:10,479 --> 02:25:20,240
then on the 17th uh is their uh public
comment period where uh the applicant is

1807
02:25:17,280 --> 02:25:28,240
doing a presentation uh and I encourage
us all to you know be there if possible

1808
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:33,680
um and just here uh as well or others to
submit their comments

1809
02:25:30,240 --> 02:25:35,520
question did give any feedback at all on
the application

1810
02:25:34,319 --> 02:25:40,800
» oh yeah there some there's been
conversations for comment already lots

1811
02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:42,880
of stuff you get that information
>> yes you're going to get we're going to

1812
02:25:41,840 --> 02:25:46,560
get a
>> oh no you're definitely going to get all

1813
02:25:44,399 --> 02:25:50,640
those so They're going to get a full
packet uh produced so the panty boards

1814
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:53,200
can get it all and then we're going to
get all those Yeah.

1815
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:58,399
» Thank you.
>> Yeah.

1816
02:25:55,760 --> 02:26:03,040
But I I can tell you that I have spent
lots of time trying to learn this

1817
02:26:01,359 --> 02:26:09,479
process along with other the other
applicants that we have had. So um

1818
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:14,640
so that's where we're at. So you have to
just

1819
02:26:13,359 --> 02:26:20,240
» do the review to [clears throat]
referral to uh

1820
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:23,800
» but then do we have to make a motion to
do that?

1821
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:23,800
» Yes.

1822
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:45,160
because I have my

1823
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:56,720
uh so I will make a motion uh to defer
uh applicant application TB0000

1824
02:26:55,200 --> 02:27:02,000
000028
as amended by the August 10th 2026

1825
02:26:59,520 --> 02:27:08,479
consolidated application to the planning
board for review of the unified Um,

1826
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:12,439
Coopertown Allstar Village PD proposal
including PB0000751

1827
02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:24,000
and PB 000762,
the proposed inclusion of partials 53

1828
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:30,399
and 84 in the expanded PDD, the
applicant's proposal to retain the RA40

1829
02:27:27,359 --> 02:27:35,439
zoning and vacin use of partial 60, the
associated site plans, and the proposed

1830
02:27:32,479 --> 02:27:35,439
lot adjustments.

1831
02:27:36,399 --> 02:27:39,399
Second

1832
02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:43,800
discussion

1833
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:54,800
once
twice

1834
02:27:51,280 --> 02:28:01,040
I just want to say reminder there is the
public comment and presentation coming

1835
02:27:56,960 --> 02:28:04,640
encourage all who uh have asked us
questions and we all know we can't talk

1836
02:28:02,479 --> 02:28:10,160
about it But, you know, had them come to
it. Uh, and, um, I certainly have been

1837
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:14,720
getting many, uh, questions about it.
Uh, but, um, uh, you know, I encourage

1838
02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:19,680
them all, everyone to come and, you
know, I tried to leave as what I thought

1839
02:28:17,359 --> 02:28:25,120
I had available, uh, to the public, but
I will make sure everything is available

1840
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:29,920
and up to date as well. Uh so please
encourage all who may have

1841
02:28:28,240 --> 02:28:35,520
questions or want even want to learn
what to ask because I think there's a

1842
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:41,319
lot of unknown what people you know do
or don't know. So I encourage them all

1843
02:28:37,120 --> 02:28:41,319
to to learn [clears throat] first.

1844
02:28:43,439 --> 02:28:46,640
» Yes.
>> The census.

1845
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:50,479
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1846
02:28:48,960 --> 02:28:56,040
» Yes.
>> Thank you.

1847
02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:56,040
Thank.

1848
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:09,200
All right. Facilities tech.
Could we do the destination Oiana

1849
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:13,600
request? They just had to leave. Um they
need to

1850
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:17,160
» Oh, yes. Um
>> Oh, sure. Yeah.

1851
02:29:17,228 --> 02:29:24,399
[clears throat]
Pavilion update. Um so we got our two

1852
02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:30,880
estimates in
a brand new pavilion.

1853
02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:37,880
Uh, Eastman Associates was $361,000
and Andrew Mancini Associates on the

1854
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:37,880
Bingington was $452,700

1855
02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:46,720
or 30 by 50.
Obviously, [clears throat]

1856
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:51,280
we don't have that to spend
unfortunately.

1857
02:29:49,600 --> 02:29:57,040
So,
the process going forward, this is new

1858
02:29:53,280 --> 02:30:02,960
to me. Uh, do we have to send a letter
to both of them?

1859
02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:07,880
» Yeah, we will draft that.
>> Okay. It's on my list.

1860
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:12,040
» No. Okay.

1861
02:30:12,249 --> 02:30:17,600
[clears throat]
I don't know why this here. Great planes

1862
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:20,920
transports. They're closed. They're
locked up.

1863
02:30:21,840 --> 02:30:30,000
And then um so so so just backing up in
terms of pavilion, I think we need to

1864
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:36,880
maybe at our next parks and facilities
meeting reconvene, have discussion. Um

1865
02:30:34,399 --> 02:30:44,720
we were given some money for that. We
would hate to not use it for that. Um

1866
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:48,960
your mark, right? So we'll have to come
back together and discuss what are the

1867
02:30:46,880 --> 02:30:53,840
next steps with that. I mean I was down
there today. It is a nice still a very

1868
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:57,520
nice spot picnic area without even a
shelter. Uh but maybe there's some other

1869
02:30:56,000 --> 02:31:04,800
options
um to scale back the project or

1870
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:10,479
potentially uh have a volunteer day or
something to that nature whereas I mean

1871
02:31:07,840 --> 02:31:16,880
the Amish get together and raise barns
in a day. Uh maybe that's something we

1872
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:22,800
could potentially do as well. uh there
are uh with the money we have there's no

1873
02:31:19,439 --> 02:31:28,240
reason we couldn't raise that um to to
some extent. So that's something

1874
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:32,439
we could discuss at the next meeting
which direction we want to go with that

1875
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:39,280
» because we definitely have sufficient
money for the materials. It's just

1876
02:31:36,319 --> 02:31:44,319
» when it gets into the insuranceances and
prevailing wage and things like that it

1877
02:31:41,439 --> 02:31:50,560
just obviously has gotten out of hand.
We know that's significantly more than

1878
02:31:47,439 --> 02:31:55,359
it should be. Um, so we'll we'll we'll
do we'll make a plan to discuss that in

1879
02:31:52,880 --> 02:32:00,560
the next parts and facilities meeting.
And if anyone in the meanwhile has any

1880
02:31:57,120 --> 02:32:06,160
ideas other than potential homage barn
raising, um, throw them our way. We'll

1881
02:32:04,319 --> 02:32:10,720
definitely throw them around.
>> Um, Joe and I talk about this, too. And

1882
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:15,200
so, um, I'm going to be talking with
Chris about like, you know, we did the

1883
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:20,240
process, you know, we followed what
we're supposed to, you know, what are

1884
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:24,319
our options after that. So,
>> as soon as I know, I'll let you know.

1885
02:32:22,080 --> 02:32:28,399
Um, uh, and then we, you know, figure
that out. I mean, we have to talk about

1886
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:30,000
sooner than later, too, so that we can
actually [clears throat] get built in

1887
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:33,600
time.
>> Well, I mean, the rental season's near

1888
02:32:32,319 --> 02:32:37,520
ending at this point.
>> Oh, for next year. Yeah. I was I say,

1889
02:32:35,920 --> 02:32:42,640
you know, I mean, it's a shame the bid
process and this all has to be this way.

1890
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:46,240
I'm mostly certain that a local
contractor put that up for a quarter of

1891
02:32:44,399 --> 02:32:53,120
the price,
>> but we we'll have that discussion. Um,

1892
02:32:49,439 --> 02:32:59,120
and so we don't forget uh
destination had made that request at our

1893
02:32:57,040 --> 02:33:07,120
parks and facilities and technology
meeting uh the last one.

1894
02:33:02,960 --> 02:33:15,840
We had representatives here today. Um,
Mrs. Eski. Uh, so I guess I'll put a

1895
02:33:12,000 --> 02:33:21,040
motion on the floor that we
provide destination on a waiver for the

1896
02:33:19,120 --> 02:33:25,960
fee of the rental drilling and use of
the park for the event this year.

1897
02:33:27,200 --> 02:33:35,359
their discussion
>> and they usually give us a do they

1898
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:39,680
usually give us a um
>> yes they said they said they put us on a

1899
02:33:37,439 --> 02:33:43,840
for policy additional insurance
>> I think we got it too actually I feel

1900
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:50,000
like we did so additional insured
there's no liability no cost to us it's

1901
02:33:46,080 --> 02:33:55,760
a great uh great event for the community
>> um they're doing it

1902
02:33:51,840 --> 02:33:55,760
» so it's a great use for the park

1903
02:33:56,560 --> 02:34:03,080
Okay, sounds good.
>> Um,

1904
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:05,840
» yes.
>> Sus,

1905
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:08,000
» yes.
>> Yes.

1906
02:34:06,880 --> 02:34:11,000
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1907
02:34:12,160 --> 02:34:20,720
» Just one other update.
Look below.

1908
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:27,800
So the fence has been installed
around

1909
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:27,800
the holding tank. So it's saf

1910
02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:31,280
on there.
>> And they paved the road to the pool

1911
02:34:30,399 --> 02:34:38,892
today.
>> Yeah, I saw that. I have to go like

1912
02:34:36,872 --> 02:34:38,892
[clears throat]

1913
02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:52,880
so good. All right. So, I guess we're
we're done.

1914
02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:59,200
» Yeah. I mean, just really quick on the
pool though, um we didn't have to we

1915
02:34:57,200 --> 02:35:04,560
going to have the first semester come
out with lifeguards

1916
02:35:01,439 --> 02:35:08,319
for that. Um uh because with our health
inspection, we got to get a date fixed.

1917
02:35:07,760 --> 02:35:09,600
» Gate fixed.
>> Oh ready.

1918
02:35:09,280 --> 02:35:14,880
» Yeah.
>> Perfect. Thank you.

1919
02:35:11,920 --> 02:35:17,920
» Fix it. Oh, good. Thank you.
>> Thank you. And thank you Joe for

1920
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:22,160
overseeing that.
>> So there's all that. But there was a

1921
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:29,200
couple hours I guess that we had to
figure that out. So

1922
02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:33,240
thank you for that. Um,
you know, now I can't

1923
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:46,120
» mean the extra hours.
>> No, no, it was it was the something else

1924
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:46,120
that came up over time.

1925
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:56,399
Oh. Um, that that's what it is. Over the
weekend, I received um some phone calls

1926
02:35:53,200 --> 02:36:04,000
uh from uh whoever was renting the
pavilion on Saturday. Um I reached out

1927
02:35:59,840 --> 02:36:10,960
to them to lower the music. Um and so I
got more uh calls uh over the weekend on

1928
02:36:06,880 --> 02:36:17,040
that on Saturday um and ask. Um so just
wanted to put it out there when you look

1929
02:36:13,439 --> 02:36:20,880
at you know who
uh got the application you completely

1930
02:36:19,120 --> 02:36:26,319
understand maybe we have to look at that
like noise levels or you know things

1931
02:36:23,920 --> 02:36:29,439
like that. So in the past depends where
they sometimes point their speakers if

1932
02:36:28,000 --> 02:36:33,520
if they're in the they're in the first
pilion their speakers are pointing

1933
02:36:30,960 --> 02:36:39,200
towards Angel Heights they you can
actually hear it. Uh we've had that in

1934
02:36:36,479 --> 02:36:42,319
the past and simple request of your
speakers going towards the river.

1935
02:36:41,920 --> 02:36:47,840
» Yeah.
>> Well, and I think likely we had this

1936
02:36:45,600 --> 02:36:52,800
conversation with um
>> is it the same group from last year?

1937
02:36:50,399 --> 02:36:59,760
» So, and they did do that. They did
redirect speakers. However,

1938
02:36:56,080 --> 02:37:07,920
you know what's what's what's tolerable
level for one might not be the same to

1939
02:37:04,080 --> 02:37:16,000
during the day. It's it's within it's
within whatever ordinance there is sound

1940
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:20,319
level but it's irritant. Um, so how do
you address that?

1941
02:37:18,399 --> 02:37:25,200
» Just putting on your radar just so
anyone else can't believe you got it.

1942
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:29,760
But they were responsive for a couple
hours and yeah,

1943
02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:34,080
try it.
All right. Anything else? No.

1944
02:37:32,414 --> 02:37:41,200
[clears throat] Uh, ethics board report
Dale after report. Thank you. Appreciate

1945
02:37:36,640 --> 02:37:45,760
it. Uh, climate chart report.
Um yeah, the the main work we did was

1946
02:37:43,760 --> 02:37:50,000
just uh to try to get ready for the
grant submission. So we have not met

1947
02:37:48,560 --> 02:37:54,240
since then.
>> Any update on the garage?

1948
02:37:52,319 --> 02:37:57,200
» Nope. It was submitted. So there won't
be an update until we get

1949
02:37:56,479 --> 02:38:02,544
» if we got
>> if we get it or not and then we have the

1950
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:07,040
opportunity to uh refine it.
[clears throat]

1951
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:14,240
» Um
>> no, no. Uh so um

1952
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:18,080
uh Representative Hinching uh was able
to make it today. Um but I do want to

1953
02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:22,319
share he has been coming to a lot of the
other meetings have been helpful uh in

1954
02:38:20,479 --> 02:38:28,319
those those aspects. So we appreciate
it. Uh but um he did share updates that

1955
02:38:25,200 --> 02:38:34,319
he asked me to share as well. Uh so he
has said that we are on the agenda uh

1956
02:38:31,439 --> 02:38:39,280
for the August 20th admin committee in
Coopertown. Uh, the board clerk tells me

1957
02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:43,840
that our time slot is approximately
10:35 a.m. for discussion about the

1958
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:47,359
sales tax preemption agreement between
the county and the city of Onana from

1959
02:38:45,680 --> 02:38:54,120
1991.
Um, and then myself will be there. Joe

1960
02:38:50,399 --> 02:38:54,120
Sher will be there.

1961
02:38:57,600 --> 02:39:07,760
Um Tim Donahghue, director of public
services, gave a very thorough virtual

1962
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:14,240
tour of the 400 acre campus uh and all
of its buildings. Um

1963
02:39:11,040 --> 02:39:18,319
household hazardous waste day is Friday
and Saturday

1964
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:25,680
wire is attached. So, let me tell you
about that. Uh, the 14th, August 14th to

1965
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:31,359
15, August 14th from 8 to 11 at the new
highway building and August 15th, uh,

1966
02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:34,800
from 8 to 1 at the Metals office
complex.

1967
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:38,560
Um,
and

1968
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:42,479
uh, the county is trying to tighten up
their policies and also create

1969
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:47,520
consequences for violations.
Um uh he got a guided tour at both the

1970
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:50,240
jail and central kitchen in the tiny
house community that is managed through

1971
02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:58,280
DSS.
>> Okay. Um and he has enrolled in

1972
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:58,280
Appalachia United Outdoors on behalf of

1973
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:08,720
» So thank you for that. Oh Ryan, you have
that as well. We all got that. But put

1974
02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:13,840
that in.
Um, all right. Time for report.

1975
02:40:11,359 --> 02:40:17,479
» Nothing to report. Um, I want to drill
back at the board

1976
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:26,399
with that water.
Um, so we're going to do that or

1977
02:40:24,240 --> 02:40:29,640
rather than going out. Let's just do it.
Set it.

1978
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:42,640
» Yeah. I mean we can certainly um
think we could have by Monday.

1979
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:47,680
» Yeah.
>> Wednesday,

1980
02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:52,640
» tomorrow, Monday, Friday.
>> I mean it done we should get it

1981
02:40:49,760 --> 02:40:55,840
immediately. So when I said it Friday in
the evening,

1982
02:40:53,600 --> 02:41:01,120
» it's supposed to be three day at least
three days notice or as is

1983
02:40:58,800 --> 02:41:06,080
» practical but we shouldn't be
>> but as we have seen here as as we have

1984
02:41:04,160 --> 02:41:12,080
seen here this is a huge public safety
issue that I would think that would

1985
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:16,800
» over over proceed that and we've also
had other meetings less than that as

1986
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:21,120
well. Wednesday.
>> I would I would actually say Monday so

1987
02:41:18,800 --> 02:41:22,960
then we can get the RFP ready to go out.
Correct.

1988
02:41:21,359 --> 02:41:24,479
» Yes.
>> Tuesday.

1989
02:41:23,439 --> 02:41:30,080
» Yes.
>> If it were Monday, we should do it at

1990
02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:33,399
4:00 because uh short-term rental starts
at 5.

1991
02:41:33,760 --> 02:41:41,439
» 4:30. 4:30.
>> I don't have to kill time.

1992
02:41:39,040 --> 02:41:45,760
» 4:30 Monday.
>> 4:30 Monday. Right. For short-term

1993
02:41:43,359 --> 02:41:49,200
rental, you want to try for
>> I'd like to do it for five.

1994
02:41:48,479 --> 02:41:52,399
» Yes.
>> Um, we do have short-term rental. If Do

1995
02:41:51,840 --> 02:41:54,960
you want to
>> It should be quick.

1996
02:41:54,319 --> 02:42:00,960
Right now,
>> you want to do it at 4:55.

1997
02:41:57,520 --> 02:42:07,040
» There should be discussion.
>> How about 4:50 on Monday?

1998
02:42:03,760 --> 02:42:07,040
» 4:50 p.m. on Monday.

1999
02:42:10,399 --> 02:42:17,520
Yeah, we got a time constraint with
playing hard is up against the

2000
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:20,800
» time. We got
>> Thank you all. We'll get it for you.

2001
02:42:18,800 --> 02:42:26,000
Thank you. Appreciate it.
>> Um

2002
02:42:22,399 --> 02:42:30,840
uh and um I was told I would have it in
the morning. So as soon as I get it, I'm

2003
02:42:27,840 --> 02:42:30,840
sure.

2004
02:42:33,359 --> 02:42:37,680
So, you've already I was just I had an
email queued up, but you've already got

2005
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:41,520
it. Thank you very much.
>> It's going to change if they go out for

2006
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:45,479
Tuesday. I would go.
>> Okay. Just so that's

2007
02:42:52,720 --> 02:42:55,720
» Chris.

2008
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:03,000
Mr.

2009
02:43:04,479 --> 02:43:13,359
Oh yeah. Um
okay. Uh so now we have to uh do this

2010
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:20,319
before [clears throat] as well. We have
to approve our bills. Uh so our

2011
02:43:18,720 --> 02:43:23,880
» sorry
approve our bills

2012
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:31,120
» that we just did. Uh so for the vouchers
dated

2013
02:43:28,479 --> 02:43:34,520
uh 2026-416
to 2026-485

2014
02:43:35,439 --> 02:43:46,640
uh and the amount uh Judy pay is 1,00 no
one. It's got to be more than

2015
02:43:42,880 --> 02:43:52,040
» No, it is 1,000. I'm sorry. 1 million5
1 billion 1 057022.36.

2016
02:43:52,800 --> 02:43:57,520
Thank you all the patience. is very
late.

2017
02:43:55,600 --> 02:44:01,040
» Very late.
>> Be nice.

2018
02:43:58,800 --> 02:44:04,720
» So, I make a motion
payment of the [clears throat] bills.

2019
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:08,560
» I'll second that since I signed them.
>> Thank you. Any discussion?

2020
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:12,720
» Just just in case you hadn't looked at
the reason there's so much is we had

2021
02:44:10,479 --> 02:44:16,640
fire contract with the city. The truck
our payment was due as well as payment

2022
02:44:15,279 --> 02:44:24,600
on
>> the uh highway department truck.

2023
02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:24,600
I believe we also

2024
02:44:38,720 --> 02:44:42,000
» yes
>> yes

2025
02:44:41,040 --> 02:44:45,840
» yes
>> yes

2026
02:44:43,439 --> 02:44:49,840
» yes motion
>> all right approve the minutes of the

2027
02:44:48,000 --> 02:44:53,920
July town board
One second. Back up. Question is that

2028
02:44:52,160 --> 02:44:59,640
public
motion resolution

2029
02:44:56,319 --> 02:44:59,640
special meeting.

2030
02:45:00,240 --> 02:45:05,920
» Motion to set a special meeting.
>> Yeah.

2031
02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:12,000
» Monday,
August 17th at 4:50 p.m. to

2032
02:45:10,800 --> 02:45:15,840
Woodland.
>> Yeah. The RP.

2033
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:19,120
» I don't.
Yes. So, we would just need a motion. So

2034
02:45:17,760 --> 02:45:22,439
you made the motion, Teresa.
>> I think I feel

2035
02:45:22,880 --> 02:45:29,920
any discussion.
>> Yes. Any discussion?

2036
02:45:28,080 --> 02:45:33,319
» No. Roll call.
>> All in favor?

2037
02:45:34,960 --> 02:45:40,960
» Thanks for keeping us on track. Did that
Ryan?

2038
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:46,319
» All right. Um, approve the minutes of
the July 20 of July time meeting.

2039
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:49,439
» Motion [clears throat] to the eight.
There were two meetings.

2040
02:45:49,120 --> 02:45:52,640
» Yes.
>> Of the July 8th town.

2041
02:45:51,200 --> 02:45:57,439
» Yes. July 8th board.
>> Okay. I make a motion we approve the

2042
02:45:54,399 --> 02:46:00,439
minutes of the July 8th town.
>> Second.

2043
02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:10,359
» Was there a second or you're asking for?
>> Oh, I was asking.

2044
02:46:06,399 --> 02:46:10,359
» No, I'm sorry. I was trying to

2045
02:46:10,479 --> 02:46:13,479
discussion.

2046
02:46:15,760 --> 02:46:21,714
Okay.
Uh all in favor [clears throat]

2047
02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:30,175
motion carries.
>> Thank you.

2048
02:46:26,080 --> 02:46:36,720
Um in the packets we have the
[clears throat]

2049
02:46:31,279 --> 02:46:44,399
introduction uh for the town uh 2027 uh
fiscal year budget schedule. Um and so I

2050
02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:49,680
will just share with everyone. Uh so we
will announce August 12th that we are

2051
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:53,520
announcing the uh budget process um uh
and adopting the calendar. September

2052
02:46:51,439 --> 02:47:01,120
16th will be our first public budget
workshop. September 30th uh we will have

2053
02:46:56,720 --> 02:47:06,319
a tended budget files. Uh October 5th we
will have a presentation um to the town

2054
02:47:03,920 --> 02:47:12,880
board at a special meeting. Uh and
October October 5th will be that special

2055
02:47:10,319 --> 02:47:18,160
meeting. October 8th, we will have a
second public budget workshop. Uh in

2056
02:47:15,200 --> 02:47:23,040
October 14th, uh we will review any
changes and establish the preliminary

2057
02:47:20,399 --> 02:47:29,920
budget for public hearing. 29th, we will
hold um the official public hearing on

2058
02:47:25,840 --> 02:47:36,000
the preliminary budget. Uh and then 12
special meeting uh to consider the final

2059
02:47:33,120 --> 02:47:40,399
revisions and adopt the fiscal year 2027
top budgets.

2060
02:47:38,319 --> 02:47:45,520
And so
we have any further discussion on that.

2061
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:50,040
» Good job.
>> Thank you Teresa. Appreciate your help

2062
02:47:46,880 --> 02:47:50,040
with that.

2063
02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:59,439
» Um
[clears throat] so we just need a motion

2064
02:47:57,040 --> 02:48:02,080
for I mean resolution adopting the
schedule and then the task.

2065
02:48:01,359 --> 02:48:08,359
» One question.
>> Yeah. Did Nicole get a copy?

2066
02:48:04,720 --> 02:48:08,359
» Yeah. 10.

2067
02:48:10,391 --> 02:48:14,880
[clears throat]
>> So once again, a resolution and a can

2068
02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:18,960
combine them.
>> No, it is combined. So it's a resolution

2069
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:24,000
and then uh we're going to be setting
the uh

2070
02:48:21,520 --> 02:48:27,520
that's attached to it. So the uh the
dates, the schedule is attached to the

2071
02:48:25,920 --> 02:48:31,680
resolution.
>> Sure. I made a motion that we approve

2072
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:37,760
the
oh 20 the town of Oniana 2027 budget

2073
02:48:35,359 --> 02:48:41,359
schedule resolution.
>> Second.

2074
02:48:38,720 --> 02:48:44,640
» Thank you. Uh and just for discussion
just so we all it just says that you

2075
02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:50,800
know therefore be approved the town
board adopts the town uh 2027 schedule

2076
02:48:48,399 --> 02:48:55,040
attached to the resolution. So you all
know that's attached to it.

2077
02:48:52,800 --> 02:49:00,000
» Okay. Any further discussion?
>> Plug in the dates.

2078
02:48:56,560 --> 02:49:04,800
» Yes. and Ryan, please schedule
all those as well. Thank you.

2079
02:49:02,640 --> 02:49:08,560
» Thank you. [clears throat]
>> Any further discussion?

2080
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:12,279
» Roll call.
>> Uh all in favor.

2081
02:49:15,236 --> 02:49:17,256
[clears throat]

2082
02:49:21,680 --> 02:49:32,960
» Um okay. Uh I had a request um from our
town assessor who wanted to go to uh the

2083
02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:40,399
annual uh training um and so I said that
I will bring it to the board uh for

2084
02:49:38,640 --> 02:49:46,920
um
>> how much is it? Uh

2085
02:49:43,439 --> 02:49:46,920
not much but

2086
02:49:48,000 --> 02:49:52,040
100 bucks you know.
>> Yeah.

2087
02:49:52,960 --> 02:49:59,479
» It would be allowable to approve anyway
but I just think that's all just

2088
02:50:00,319 --> 02:50:08,560
» um
I motion uh to approve the training uh

2089
02:50:05,359 --> 02:50:14,600
the tax train request second. and you've
heard discussion

2090
02:50:11,359 --> 02:50:14,600
roll off.

2091
02:50:17,520 --> 02:50:29,479
» Okay. Anything else with the board for
public comment?

2092
02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:29,479
Okay. Uh the floor again uh for

2093
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:38,720
» Yes, that's some of it will be a little
repended from earlier. our model over 19

2094
02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:44,640
Jeffrey. Um, just kind of going back to
Allstar Village again, kind of wondering

2095
02:50:42,720 --> 02:50:47,600
I I maybe it sounds like a stupid
question, but do they need the

2096
02:50:45,840 --> 02:50:52,960
additional parking? Are they not finding
parking for cars now or is there some

2097
02:50:49,680 --> 02:50:56,000
further expansion coming up that um is
it like I've heard about them expanding,

2098
02:50:54,640 --> 02:51:00,560
but you know how rumors are. I don't
know. So, I still kind of wonder about

2099
02:50:57,520 --> 02:51:06,880
that. Um, and I do wonder if in their
plans there could be a walkway over the

2100
02:51:04,479 --> 02:51:09,600
highway. You know, I imagine that will
cost quite a bit of money, but I also

2101
02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:14,960
think they bring in a heck of a lot of
money. Um, I think it's a safety issue

2102
02:51:12,080 --> 02:51:19,200
on 23 coming here. The light is flashing
red. You should stop. One of the people

2103
02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:23,600
that pulled out of Allstar is inching
their way through the red light. So, I

2104
02:51:21,600 --> 02:51:28,399
mean, hopefully nothing horrible will
happen there. Um, but I I just kind of

2105
02:51:26,880 --> 02:51:32,960
wondering what's coming further if there
needed more parking at this point and

2106
02:51:30,080 --> 02:51:36,560
that's what they're looking for. Um, I
agree with the gentleman that spoke

2107
02:51:34,319 --> 02:51:39,840
earlier. Yes, it's been a lot of benefit
from having a the baseball park here. I

2108
02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:45,680
do understand that there's a
revitalization on the west end which is

2109
02:51:42,160 --> 02:51:50,080
wonderful. Um, about the prices of house
property, I don't know, pros and cons. I

2110
02:51:48,240 --> 02:51:53,600
don't know that I could afford to buy on
anymore if I didn't own a house already.

2111
02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:59,680
you know, it might be nice for selling a
house, but for buying one,

2112
02:51:56,399 --> 02:52:05,200
I think for a lot of us, you know, we're
the prices are getting a little out of

2113
02:52:02,240 --> 02:52:08,960
um just want to note the town pool. I I
just a little bit curious there. One,

2114
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:11,359
again, it's a great resource there. It's
kind of nice when you go there. It's not

2115
02:52:10,319 --> 02:52:17,359
usually old, [clears throat]
like it's really nice there. Um I the

2116
02:52:15,200 --> 02:52:24,000
design like it it drops pretty quickly
as far as the shallow or the shallower

2117
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:28,240
end into the deep end. I so I I can't
imagine that's really too fixable

2118
02:52:25,680 --> 02:52:33,200
without a great deal of money, but it is
a great resource and it's great to see

2119
02:52:29,680 --> 02:52:37,120
that being built up. Also, um I
appreciate about the solar panels that

2120
02:52:35,359 --> 02:52:41,439
you're looking to put it on like roofs
of buildings or in the parking like

2121
02:52:39,040 --> 02:52:46,960
versus using fields, grass fields. So
that was um I appreciate hearing that.

2122
02:52:45,279 --> 02:52:51,200
Um
tax revenue and archaic formula sounds

2123
02:52:48,960 --> 02:52:56,960
like schools budgets and good luck with
returning that. But maybe you'll catch

2124
02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:58,800
me. I don't know. Um
>> do you want to come on the 19th?

2125
02:52:58,479 --> 02:53:02,160
» What
>> do you want to come with us on the 19th?

2126
02:53:00,240 --> 02:53:08,160
Sure enough. [laughter]
>> I'd have to read off something there.

2127
02:53:05,040 --> 02:53:14,000
Maybe. Um, [clears throat] I appreciate
that there was a special meeting for the

2128
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:18,720
Woodland RFP and [clears throat] not
approving it blindly without knowing the

2129
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:22,000
dates and stuff like that. I just, you
know, I would hate to see somebody dig a

2130
02:53:20,560 --> 02:53:27,800
hold of those. They're just approving
something without all the information.

2131
02:53:24,800 --> 02:53:27,800
Um,

2132
02:53:31,359 --> 02:53:34,674
sorry. [laughter]

2133
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:44,560
Um just a thought in regard to um
planning for that whether or not you're

2134
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:51,040
determining to pay the professional fee
for um expert opinions

2135
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:54,880
um you know and talking about revise the
what's put out there now to make it more

2136
02:53:52,960 --> 02:54:00,000
specific
lawyer advice obviously they could

2137
02:53:56,960 --> 02:54:03,760
advise you best but I understand why
that might be yes but sometimes when you

2138
02:54:01,680 --> 02:54:07,520
put really tight cur parameters on
something. It also ties your hands a

2139
02:54:05,600 --> 02:54:11,279
little bit more. So, I think it's the
pros and cons of how many parameters you

2140
02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:17,120
put on when they do or don't refer it
for a second opinion. Um, just something

2141
02:54:14,080 --> 02:54:22,040
that might for the board to think about
like how many do you want to turn on?

2142
02:54:22,319 --> 02:54:29,720
And then the short-term rental meetings,
they're open to the public, right? Those

2143
02:54:25,520 --> 02:54:29,720
committing to receive.

2144
02:54:30,160 --> 02:54:33,840
» That's it. I appreciate everything you
guys do.

2145
02:54:32,720 --> 02:54:38,240
» No, thank you. I appreciate you for
coming. Always having great options for

2146
02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:41,600
us and staying until you know the very
end. So, thank you.

2147
02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:44,960
» I don't work anymore. So,
>> you never have questions or process. I'm

2148
02:54:43,200 --> 02:54:48,880
happy to always have a conversation. You
guys call me or something. Uh, but I

2149
02:54:47,040 --> 02:54:56,479
mean I guess I I could share on this,
but on the application uh if you haven't

2150
02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:59,600
seen it for cycling, they they
>> do have plans in there for an overpass,

2151
02:54:58,640 --> 02:55:03,920
just so you know.
>> Oh, okay. I missed that. Yeah. So, so if

2152
02:55:01,920 --> 02:55:09,040
you weren't like an expert engineer or
knowing of it, um, but there are there

2153
02:55:06,720 --> 02:55:13,600
just so you're you're aware of that. Um,
I regarding your pool concerns. Um, that

2154
02:55:12,319 --> 02:55:18,080
is something we're addressing as well
because that's not what the

2155
02:55:15,680 --> 02:55:22,160
» initial scope was supposed to be and so
we'll through that. Okay.

2156
02:55:19,520 --> 02:55:28,000
» Um, uh, and the goal is for that to be
fixed next year, not at our so

2157
02:55:26,479 --> 02:55:31,520
» you follow the plans that's on them.
>> We are Yeah, we will do that. And so,

2158
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:35,760
you know, appreciate everything that,
you know, Joe has been doing with that

2159
02:55:34,399 --> 02:55:41,319
as well.
>> Thank you.

2160
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:41,319
» Thank you again.

2161
02:55:42,319 --> 02:55:48,880
» Anyone else?
>> Okay,

2162
02:55:46,319 --> 02:55:52,960
» there's one more crucial motion.
>> No, I hate to do this, but I'm going to

2163
02:55:51,040 --> 02:55:56,399
make a motion that we enter executive
session for the purpose of discussing a

2164
02:55:54,640 --> 02:56:01,040
jury.
>> Discussing what? I have to say,

2165
02:56:00,399 --> 02:56:03,040
right? Yes.
>> Discussing what?

2166
02:56:02,160 --> 02:56:06,880
» Personnel.
>> Personnel.

2167
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:10,560
» Why not? Yeah.
>> Uh, so just so all that knows when we

2168
02:56:08,800 --> 02:56:15,120
have a special uh executive session that
we have to close it all the

2169
02:56:13,132 --> 02:56:19,120
[clears throat]
second. Yeah. Second.