1 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:23,640 All the Yonzo County Board of Commissioners meeting for Monday, August 18, 2025, to order 2 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:30,460 at this time. We'll first ask our county attorney, Mr. Brett DeSams, to provide the invocation. 3 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Mr. DeSams. 4 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:37,060 Thank you, Chairman. Let us pray. Dear Heavenly Father, be with the commissioners in their 5 00:04:37,060 --> 00:04:42,220 deliberations and bless them with wisdom and guidance as they address the items on 6 00:04:42,220 --> 00:04:47,460 tonight's agenda. We pray for our military and first responders who continue to serve 7 00:04:47,460 --> 00:04:54,640 our country with tremendous courage, commitment, and sacrifice. May all we do this day bring you honor 8 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:01,540 and glory. Amen. Now with deep respect and reverence for the faiths, beliefs, and traditions of those 9 00:05:01,540 --> 00:05:04,580 gathered here tonight, join me in a moment of silence. 10 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,540 Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. 11 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:29,050 with liberty and justice for all. 12 00:05:33,290 --> 00:05:34,290 Thank you this time. 13 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:37,510 I'd like to recognize the elected officials that are with us tonight. 14 00:05:38,090 --> 00:05:40,790 We'll start first with the North Carolina representative, 15 00:05:41,870 --> 00:05:43,830 Mr. Wyatt Gable is here this evening, 16 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:45,550 Sheriff Chris Thomas, 17 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:49,750 Town Alderman, Mr. Rick Grant from North Dobson Beach, 18 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:52,090 Town Council from Holly Ridge, 19 00:05:52,210 --> 00:05:53,150 Mr. Walter Zabicki, 20 00:05:53,710 --> 00:05:56,190 and the mayor of Holly Ridge, Mr. Pete Parnin. 21 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:58,630 We appreciate you being here tonight. 22 00:05:58,630 --> 00:06:05,730 With that being said, we ask all in attendance please set your cell phones to silent or vibrate mode at this time. 23 00:06:06,630 --> 00:06:11,610 And we'll start with the first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. 24 00:06:12,050 --> 00:06:21,650 But before that, we need a motion to amend the agenda to remove item 4A, P-R-E-Z, 20-25, 0-0-0-1-6. 25 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:23,670 So moved. 26 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:24,090 Second. 27 00:06:24,090 --> 00:06:26,610 So we have a motion and a second. 28 00:06:26,930 --> 00:06:27,510 Any discussion? 29 00:06:28,630 --> 00:06:34,490 Hearing none, that as motion passes, we'll need to also need a motion to amend the consent 30 00:06:34,490 --> 00:06:36,670 agenda to remove item 2B, Mr. Beast. 31 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:39,410 So we have a motion and a second. 32 00:06:39,610 --> 00:06:40,150 Any discussion? 33 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:45,950 Hearing none, we now need a motion to adopt the agenda as amended. 34 00:06:46,170 --> 00:06:48,310 We have a motion and a second. 35 00:06:48,670 --> 00:06:49,330 Any discussion? 36 00:06:50,010 --> 00:06:52,230 Hearing none, motion carries. 37 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:56,730 Now with the approval of items on the consent agenda any board members has 38 00:06:56,730 --> 00:07:01,230 questions or concerns like one of those items removed now is the time to make 39 00:07:01,230 --> 00:07:07,270 that request if not we need a motion to approve agenda motion and a second any 40 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:13,570 discussion none all in favor signify by saying aye those opposed hearing none 41 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:21,550 motion carries so we are now mr. Smitherman I believe to the public 42 00:07:21,550 --> 00:07:25,410 comments and right now the let everyone know that the board offers the public 43 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:29,270 one opportunity to speak during the meeting comments should be limited to 44 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:32,410 no more than five minutes and maybe on any issue upon which the board of 45 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:36,350 commissioners has control in accordance with the board's adopted rules of 46 00:07:36,350 --> 00:07:40,150 procedure commissioners shall reserve responses if any for the 47 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:45,150 commissioner comment period on the agenda mr. Smitherman yes sir we 48 00:07:45,150 --> 00:07:48,670 have two people that have spoke signed up to speak this evening the first 49 00:07:48,670 --> 00:07:50,130 First one is Ari Rakowitz. 50 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Again, commissioners, I hope you will demonstrate 51 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 more understanding and respect in your responses this time. 52 00:08:08,260 --> 00:08:10,240 Conducting this meeting is a political act 53 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,180 as is speaking during it or attending it. 54 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,460 The board is violating its own policies 55 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:16,500 in addition to the law and our rights 56 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:18,160 by ignoring the establishment clause. 57 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,180 Again, when I reference people, places, things, or ideas, 58 00:08:21,340 --> 00:08:23,440 I provide examples from interconnected issues 59 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,580 to broaden your perspective 60 00:08:24,580 --> 00:08:27,120 so that you can better support members of your community 61 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,500 with whom you disagree or about whom you care least. 62 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:33,740 As I mentioned last time, the purpose of studying history is to avoid repeating mistakes. 63 00:08:34,220 --> 00:08:37,520 We did not need a repeat of the Holocaust, but we are experiencing one. 64 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:43,160 And since marginalizing can compound, people of color who are also members of more than 65 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,060 one marginalized group are still disproportionately affected by silence and persecution, not 66 00:08:48,060 --> 00:08:49,680 directly tied to their skin color. 67 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:54,200 Make choices with unity, sustainability, kindness, inclusion, equity, empathy, diversity, 68 00:08:54,620 --> 00:08:56,420 critical thinking, and compulsion in mind. 69 00:08:56,420 --> 00:09:01,120 Saturday night was the most recent general meeting for the local NAACP chapter. 70 00:09:01,580 --> 00:09:07,100 The next meeting is September 20th at 6 p.m. For details or to donate, visit onslaughtNAACP.org. 71 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:11,500 Next time I will read to you from the PFLAG material I introduced at the Board of Education meeting 72 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:16,700 once I finish reading the Freedom from Religion Foundation letter. 73 00:09:20,050 --> 00:09:25,450 You can find the resources I am reading from PFLAG at PFLAG.com 74 00:09:25,450 --> 00:09:31,170 And you do have local allies who lead with love instead of fear religious hypocrisy and bullying a chant 75 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:35,750 I learned here in Jacksonville straight gay black white one struggle one fight 76 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:42,690 Find some like-minded allies at the second annual like-minded alliance community block party also September 20th 77 00:09:42,690 --> 00:09:46,250 Join us for family fun at the downtown Riverwalk from 2 to 6 p.m 78 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:51,270 For more details or to donate email like-minded alliance comm at G 79 00:09:51,270 --> 00:09:54,650 like-mindedallianceatgmail.com. 80 00:09:55,130 --> 00:09:57,870 I have four questions left instead of my original six 81 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:00,750 and residents of Anzala County deserve answers to all eight. 82 00:10:01,330 --> 00:10:03,190 Of the four questions I asked last time, 83 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,750 only one was answered appropriately 84 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:06,230 by a commissioner during the meeting. 85 00:10:06,690 --> 00:10:06,910 Thank you. 86 00:10:07,550 --> 00:10:09,650 And the results of the BOE budget meeting 87 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:11,510 demonstrate that the Board of Commissioners 88 00:10:11,510 --> 00:10:13,330 is still contributing to voter suppression 89 00:10:13,330 --> 00:10:15,130 through underfunding and understaffing 90 00:10:15,130 --> 00:10:16,990 a dedicated Board of Elections staff 91 00:10:16,990 --> 00:10:19,070 in addition to violating our First Amendment rights. 92 00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:21,790 I was disappointed to arrive at the established location 93 00:10:21,790 --> 00:10:23,230 for the Board of Elections Workshop 94 00:10:23,230 --> 00:10:24,870 to learn that the meeting had been canceled 95 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:26,410 or at least relocated. 96 00:10:26,530 --> 00:10:28,830 I'm still confused because they were in closed session 97 00:10:29,230 --> 00:10:30,310 by the time I got there. 98 00:10:30,910 --> 00:10:33,190 By the time I biked up to the follow-up meeting 99 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:35,150 at the BOE office, they were in closed session 100 00:10:35,150 --> 00:10:37,950 and I had to wait until the meeting concluded, 101 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:40,810 which I didn't because I was trying 102 00:10:40,810 --> 00:10:42,210 to get here in time tonight. 103 00:10:43,890 --> 00:10:46,410 I understand the BOE's choice to begin 104 00:10:46,410 --> 00:10:53,210 again, once the board member from whom I learned that the BOE meeting was rescheduled, was 105 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:58,930 waiting here with me, I learned it from her. Why was the workshop canceled? How has the 106 00:10:58,930 --> 00:11:06,770 Board of Commissioners improved support since the initial budget passed? I was also disappointed 107 00:11:06,770 --> 00:11:11,470 to learn none of the municipalities are willing to fund early voting sites within 108 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:15,490 their precincts, so the only early voting site at the Board of Election is at the 109 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:16,710 Board of Elections in Georgetown, 110 00:11:17,230 --> 00:11:19,470 sharing that tiny parking lot with animal control, 111 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:22,250 and that once again, only representative options 112 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:24,970 and not issues have been entrusted to the people for a vote. 113 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:27,910 I have provided additional contests regarding the concerns 114 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:31,830 about voting and this historic area before 115 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:33,070 and we'll return to that. 116 00:11:33,370 --> 00:11:35,970 Thankfully all municipalities approved absentee 117 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:38,110 by mail voting and all voters are eligible 118 00:11:38,110 --> 00:11:40,830 request your ballot as early as now 119 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:43,630 to be mailed October 3rd and returned by mail 120 00:11:43,630 --> 00:11:46,430 or hand deliver it to the BOE any time during early voting. 121 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:49,910 The deadline to request an absentee ballot 122 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:52,230 is the second Tuesday before the election day, 123 00:11:52,430 --> 00:11:56,530 and it must be received by the BOE by 7.30 on election day, 124 00:11:56,630 --> 00:11:58,530 but you cannot hand deliver it then. 125 00:11:59,390 --> 00:12:02,050 If only we had 24-hour ballot drop boxes 126 00:12:02,050 --> 00:12:03,730 strategically placed throughout the county 127 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:05,010 or enough staff and resources 128 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:07,750 to perform the existing duties of the BOE. 129 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:11,170 Voters can hope for information on your voting options. 130 00:12:11,170 --> 00:12:16,890 visit ncsbe.gov slash voting to what extent have long-term or short-term 131 00:12:16,890 --> 00:12:21,050 projects proposed by the Georgetown Renaissance Association been funded 132 00:12:21,050 --> 00:12:26,330 have the county or city provided support to address poor lighting access to 133 00:12:26,330 --> 00:12:30,010 electric outlets and maintenance of the cemetery at Georgetown Park these are 134 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:35,550 the short-term things I can't remember all of the long-term and it's not 135 00:12:35,550 --> 00:12:39,130 in my script remember y'all should be working together on this I may 136 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:43,120 I will skip for time. 137 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:49,000 The infrastructure issues will require more resources to address than ending the unconstitutional 138 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,920 religious invocation, but it is your responsibility as the county commission to protect and serve 139 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,420 all of the people of Anso County. 140 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Please do better. 141 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,080 Thank you. 142 00:12:59,460 --> 00:12:59,780 Mr. Midland. 143 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:01,420 Yes, sir. 144 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:04,160 Mr. Elliott Jarman is next. 145 00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:12,830 Good evening, commissioners. 146 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:15,570 Public speaking is not really my strong point. 147 00:13:15,690 --> 00:13:16,510 I don't really enjoy it. 148 00:13:16,530 --> 00:13:17,170 But here I am. 149 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:22,950 My name is Elliott Jarman, and I come before you tonight, not just as a resident of Enzo 150 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:27,950 County, but as a voice for the many concerned citizens who feel overlooked, frustrated, and 151 00:13:27,950 --> 00:13:28,590 frankly disappointed. 152 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:34,130 Over the past few months, we've seen the county allocate substantial funding, millions 153 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:37,150 of dollars for the development of a new county fire department. 154 00:13:37,610 --> 00:13:40,030 And while public safety is a priority, we all share. 155 00:13:40,690 --> 00:13:44,670 I'm here to say that the people of Enzo County are deeply upset about what was 156 00:13:44,670 --> 00:13:45,890 left out of that funding plan. 157 00:13:45,890 --> 00:13:50,170 our volunteer fire departments. The very departments that have served our 158 00:13:50,170 --> 00:13:54,570 communities for decades, long before this initiative ever existed. Volunteer 159 00:13:54,570 --> 00:13:59,110 departments have been here through hurricanes, wildfires, wrecks, and 160 00:13:59,110 --> 00:14:02,710 structure fires without fanfare and without the full support they deserve. 161 00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:07,590 Yet they receive no capital improvement funding in this plan, not for trucks, 162 00:14:07,870 --> 00:14:11,690 not for stations, not even for equipment updates. That's not just an 163 00:14:11,690 --> 00:14:15,250 oversight, it's a statement. A statement that the boots on the ground 164 00:14:15,250 --> 00:14:20,350 heroes who've shown up time and time again are now being sidelined. This is not just about 165 00:14:20,350 --> 00:14:22,810 dollars, it's about fairness and it's about respect. 166 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:29,570 The community is watching. I've spoken to residents, fire chiefs, volunteers and taxpayers 167 00:14:29,570 --> 00:14:34,470 and the message is clear. We want to see our long-standing departments treated as partners 168 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:39,410 not as afterthoughts. The men and women who volunteer their time to protect our families 169 00:14:39,970 --> 00:14:43,910 deserve the same level of investment as a new department being built from the 170 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:47,250 ground up. We are not against progress. We are not against 171 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:51,990 improving fire protection, but we are against imbalance. We are 172 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:54,610 against funneling resources into one department while ignoring 173 00:14:54,610 --> 00:14:57,650 the vital needs of others who already serve with pride, skill, 174 00:14:57,890 --> 00:14:59,970 and honor. So tonight I ask 175 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,900 I ask you, on behalf of the people of this county, to take a hard look at your budget priorities. 176 00:15:04,580 --> 00:15:08,760 Can you find room to fund capital improvements for the volunteer departments? Can you make 177 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,760 this right before we push forward with a new model that risks eroding community trust? 178 00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:18,980 Let's not forget, volunteer fire departments are not just filling the gap. They are the 179 00:15:18,980 --> 00:15:23,780 foundation of fire protection in many parts of this county. They need your support, not 180 00:15:23,780 --> 00:15:27,660 just in words, but in your budget. Thank you for your time, and I sincerely hope 181 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:31,560 you will listen to the public voices growing louder every day and God bless 182 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,140 each and every one of you. Mr. Jarman, 183 00:15:37,220 --> 00:15:38,880 we have no further speakers signed up, sir. 184 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:45,160 All right, we'll go ahead and start with item four public hearings and Mr. Carter 185 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:50,960 Metcalfe, are you the first one here for this? That's been put off. Never mind, we 186 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:56,360 took that one off. Yeah, so, well, there you go. We are moving on to the 187 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,020 Mr. Kevin Patterson with the quarterly financial report. That's 188 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:04,240 the truth. 189 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:12,280 All right. With this, I will try to be brief on this. I do plan on presenting at 190 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,380 the October meeting. We will have a draft financial statement for the audit 191 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:21,360 report for you by that presentation, as well as we will have, of course, 192 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:25,280 have final numbers for the year-end. We are still going through the close-out now. 193 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:36,480 With this, of course, breaking down the revenues for year, we have collected $143 million in 194 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:44,080 property taxes. That is an excess of the sales tax. That has been a continual increase year 195 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:51,520 over year. Sales taxes at June 30th are actually through July 31st. We have collected 67 million. 196 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,940 That does include our Medicaid hold harmless. 197 00:16:55,500 --> 00:17:02,660 We do expect to receive approximately another $13 million, which will put us right on target. 198 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:08,320 Our Intergovernmental Revenues are under budget right now, but then again those are always 199 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:08,760 on estimates. 200 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,300 A number of our Intergovernmental Revenues depend entirely on our reimbursements and 201 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:19,080 our spend rates and they are traditionally under, our actual revenues are traditionally 202 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,920 under where we spend because they are based on estimates primarily through DHHS. 203 00:17:27,190 --> 00:17:35,450 But so far we are on, again, looking on our revenue budgets, our own target for it. 204 00:17:36,370 --> 00:17:40,890 Property tax collections are staying on approximate trend. 205 00:17:41,010 --> 00:17:44,790 Our actual collections for the last three years are on top of each other. 206 00:17:44,790 --> 00:17:49,670 we have seen an increase over year-over-year of about $4 million for the last two years. 207 00:17:50,410 --> 00:17:54,330 That is just the natural growth in the property tax base. 208 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:04,380 Sales taxes also received. Fortunately, we have gone off and I was worried that we would 209 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:08,820 have a softening in our sales tax. We have not seen that right now. Like I said, 210 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:15,200 for the month of May, we did receive $6.1 million, which is $200,000 over last year. 211 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:31,260 If you compare this number to the previous revenue, this $63 million includes the sales taxes that 6.1 is the amount that we actually received in July, which was not in the report. 212 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:38,320 We received it after the report was generated, but the Medicaid hold harmless was in the previous number. 213 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,760 it is not listed in here. So that's the discrepancy between the $63 million on this side and 214 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,840 the $67 million on the previous side. When you count that in plus the additional collection 215 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:57,940 that we expect to receive next month, that will be approximately, that should be at 216 00:18:57,940 --> 00:19:04,260 the $81 million mark within one and a half percent of that number. 217 00:19:06,530 --> 00:19:07,470 And again, sales 218 00:19:07,470 --> 00:19:13,410 Sales tax is not quite as clean but our sales tax collections are continuing and fortunately 219 00:19:13,410 --> 00:19:17,910 we have gotten back where we are slightly above previous years but of course that is 220 00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:20,330 subject to the overall economy. 221 00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:28,190 General fund expenditures by function we can go over any detail you want but our total 222 00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:37,150 expenditures are traveling are well under budget and with this we do have some other items 223 00:19:37,150 --> 00:19:41,910 that we are going to be putting in. We are going to be now that we have all of our payables 224 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:46,690 in for the end of the year, we are going to be looking to transfer any lapse health insurance 225 00:19:47,550 --> 00:19:54,450 premiums into our health reserve. So those calculations have not been met, but we are 226 00:19:54,450 --> 00:20:01,890 significantly under budget this year in the 10 fund. And again, also just breaking 227 00:20:01,890 --> 00:20:08,110 out the expenditures. There's no significant change in the general function of the expenditures 228 00:20:08,110 --> 00:20:10,470 that we have and the pattern of expenses. 229 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:16,810 And again, also just breaking out the numbers 230 00:20:16,810 --> 00:20:23,570 that we have with the expenditure by type going up, of course, by salaries, operations 231 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:24,650 and capital. 232 00:20:29,580 --> 00:20:33,590 Now, in solid waste revenues, I did go off and notice just before I got 233 00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:39,610 here that the total numbers are wrong. The total revenue for June 30th, 25 is 234 00:20:39,610 --> 00:20:47,990 9,544,000, and the total revenue for 24 is $9.3 million. So, but we are on 235 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:55,330 obviously above target for those revenue numbers. The expenditures we do show a 236 00:20:55,330 --> 00:21:00,690 significant increase in operations, operational cost on this report over 237 00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:07,730 expenditures but that is because in this report the landfill closure post closure 238 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:12,030 and depreciation were keyed into those numbers those are non-budgetary items 239 00:21:12,030 --> 00:21:17,890 it's a different level of accounting so we are still actually under budget in 240 00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:21,050 the expenditures in the landfill as of last Thursday it's Thursday of 241 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:26,330 approximately six hundred thirty eight thousand dollars so we are there but 242 00:21:26,330 --> 00:21:34,790 But the increase in operating from just under $4.8 million to $7.9 million with the restatement 243 00:21:34,790 --> 00:21:41,750 in our landfill post-closure costs, we went from $1 million of closure, post-closure cost 244 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:49,190 accruals to $3.3 million of accruals in the current year, or in 2025. 245 00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:58,490 And, of course, airport revenues are running consistent year-over-year. 246 00:22:00,070 --> 00:22:04,890 And the restricted intergovernmental, those are some of the federal fees that we're receiving. 247 00:22:05,310 --> 00:22:09,810 That will be just a timing difference on when those reimbursements are made. 248 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:14,010 And expenditures are, of course, running as expected. 249 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:24,660 For the grants as the updates, we do have the resiliency grant, which we have applied 250 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:31,000 for in coordination with Camp Lejeune as well as the city of Jacksonville. 251 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:38,740 We should have the final determination in September, but I have done the follow-up internal 252 00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:45,560 control meeting with the agency, and we should have a – we're expecting a favorable 253 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:52,500 determination to come with this report, and that could be a grant in excess of 254 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:59,820 million dollars when that comes in and that we will be using consultants for the majority 255 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:01,520 of those services. 256 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Also just as an additional note, we have made an offer for grant manager position and it 257 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,400 has been accepted so the tentative start date for our next grant manager is September 258 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,460 2nd. 259 00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:18,840 Are there any questions? 260 00:23:28,460 --> 00:23:30,700 I don't know if it was two minutes, but I'll try it. 261 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:32,920 Thank you, Mr. Patterson. 262 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:38,720 So now we move to item six, the quarterly commissioners committee reports. 263 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,340 Does anyone want to volunteer to share? 264 00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:42,600 If you've had any. 265 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:44,400 Well, I'm sure I'd go first. 266 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,680 So I just got on the hospital board. 267 00:23:47,220 --> 00:23:48,540 So I've only been to one meeting, 268 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:48,820 but I don't know if it was two minutes. 269 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:52,060 I think there are some exciting things coming down the pipe. 270 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:55,540 So I can't say anything, unfortunately, 271 00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:57,920 but I think we've got some good things to hospitals 272 00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,900 making some good decisions. 273 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:01,260 I'm excited to be a part of it. 274 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:03,020 Anyone else? 275 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,540 Yes, sir. 276 00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:06,420 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 277 00:24:06,620 --> 00:24:08,740 I'd like to speak on Ombosa real quick. 278 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,780 Ombosa has a project to build a force main from Swansborough 279 00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:22,400 to Piney Green. Down Highway 24, it'll serve the needs of the Swansborough 280 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,600 community in the future. That project is approximately 30 to 40 percent completed. 281 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:37,580 Unwasa is in the process of expanding the Pluris plant and the North Topso Beach 282 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:43,140 plant from one and a half million gallons a day to three million gallons a 283 00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:50,120 That is a sewer plant that will serve the Holly Ridge and Sneed Fairy areas in the future. 284 00:24:51,670 --> 00:24:56,860 There's also, we're working on a connection between Holly Ridge and Summer House that 285 00:24:56,860 --> 00:25:04,660 will be able to direct sewer flow between those two locations so that we can use whatever 286 00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:07,140 treatment options are available. 287 00:25:07,140 --> 00:25:14,420 We're working on two new wells in the Wachovia track doubt in Camp Davis Industrial Park, 288 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:22,560 and we're working to expand water treatment at our Dixon water treatment plant from four 289 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,540 to six million gallons a day. 290 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,660 We're also installing what's called AMI meters. 291 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:36,500 Those are meters that are connected by cellular service to our main office so that 292 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:39,180 We don't have to drive trucks around all over the county 293 00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:43,900 in order to read your meters. 294 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,200 On Wasa has over 60,000 water customers now, 295 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,820 so water meters out there, 296 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,800 and we've replaced about 1,000 of those meters 297 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,720 with AMI meters, so that is a multi-year project 298 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,560 that we'll be working on for some time in the future. 299 00:26:02,380 --> 00:26:05,860 And finally, on Wasa Board of Directors 300 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:15,080 has asked that in our towns and this counts this committee commissioners approve 301 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:21,460 a resolution that would allow you to appoint non-elected officials to the 302 00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:29,560 UNWASA Board of Directors. I've said in several town meetings the UNWASA 303 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,560 Board of Directors is made up of all elected officials at this time and six 304 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:41,940 six of our elected officials out of eight are currently up for re-election or not running 305 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:42,800 for re-election. 306 00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:50,080 So the unwassable board has the potential of losing 75% of our board members in one year. 307 00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:56,120 And that is not a good way to run a multi-million-dollar corporation, which unwassable currently 308 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,200 is with over $63 million budget. 309 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:07,380 it and so I'm asking this you commissioners and I'm asking the towns and 310 00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:11,560 Honza County Holly Ridge and Swanborough have already approved our 311 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:17,720 resolution but we need to make this change and get our board of directors on 312 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,420 three-year rotating schedules so that we don't have the potential in the 313 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:27,880 future of losing 75% of our board all at one time so that's what's happening 314 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,780 it on Worcester as chairman. Anyone else? 315 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,940 This is a report. I had a juvenile 316 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:44,500 crime prevention committee meeting that I was not able to attend so we'll have 317 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,600 more information for you at the next committee updates. I have been working 318 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,380 with the topsoil and shoreline protection that I've heard a lot about 319 00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:57,340 what's going on with legislation and our coastlines in particular oyster 320 00:27:57,340 --> 00:28:00,860 leases and the impact that that's having and in particular Anzol and 321 00:28:00,860 --> 00:28:06,380 County. The oyster leases are growing rapidly, where the surrounding counties 322 00:28:06,380 --> 00:28:10,580 have moratoriums on those oyster leases, so everyone's coming to Pender and 323 00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:18,220 Oslo County waters. I know our beach inlet and sound committee, we got by 324 00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:23,040 September, I think, it's coming up that time frame for that one. A lot of 325 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,960 beach renursment going on there, North Topso Beach, so I'll keep you 326 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,560 appraised of what's going on there as they're trying to continue to keep 327 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,280 our coastline looking great and a great tourist destination for everyone in 328 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,780 Oslo County. So with that being said we'll go to our manager for his comments. 329 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:50,220 Thank you Mr. Chairman. Speaking of our beach and our beaches and our island, we 330 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:55,480 have noticed that we'll be closing beach access number two and four effective 331 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:02,780 immediately in anticipation of the storm, high surf warnings, we encourage people to be very 332 00:29:02,780 --> 00:29:05,900 careful and avoid those dangerous currents. 333 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,160 We are, we, we see above you we had the in God, 334 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:20,200 we trust signs installed both here and on the exterior of the courthouse. Those were 335 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,720 installed last week, I believe. 336 00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:26,560 And we are also working to, and the board's aware of this, 337 00:29:26,620 --> 00:29:27,940 but for the public's consumption, 338 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,380 we are working to build a couple of EMS stations. 339 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,520 We are behind the curve in bringing our EMS facilities 340 00:29:36,260 --> 00:29:38,300 to where they need to be and are beginning 341 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480 with two new stations, most likely just 342 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,120 on the outskirts of Jacksonville 343 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480 and also one in the Stump Sound area. 344 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:59,220 And finally, the Fire Service Master Plan Steering Committee had its second meeting today and is interviewing consulting firms that will begin to... 345 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,940 Work on that project with extended public engagement effort, which will include going into all of 346 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:16,580 our fire departments, volunteer, paid, federal DOD, city, towns, as well as public forums where 347 00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:23,120 the public can express their opinions on the future of how we manage fire service globally 348 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,860 as a single service in Onsland County instead of different services based upon jurisdiction. 349 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:30,800 And that's all I have, Mr. Chairman. 350 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:31,740 All right. 351 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,980 Mr. Comments, we'll go back around the circuit. 352 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,700 Anyone have anything they'd like to share? 353 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,820 You want me to start again? 354 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:40,700 If you want to. 355 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,240 We can go to Tony. 356 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,420 I don't matter. Go ahead. 357 00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:44,040 All right. 358 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:45,200 Wait, please. 359 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,240 You know, I got to say, I've always been one that I like to hear differing opinions 360 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,480 and sit down and talk to people who don't agree with exactly the way that I feel. 361 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:06,060 and believe and I'm willing to sit down and talk to anybody who wants to 362 00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:13,660 discuss issues whether we agree or not but we've been lectured for months and 363 00:31:13,660 --> 00:31:22,220 months about issues here in this building and because I like to talk 364 00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:31,640 talk one-on-one with people who may agree or not with me. I actually had a one-on-one 365 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,180 meeting with Ms. Ari who has now stormed out of the room again for the third time 366 00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:44,400 and when I listened to her rant and rave at me which was basically the same 367 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:51,680 rant that she's done with us every month for the last several months and I 368 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880 I tried to express some of my opinions. 369 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,380 She got up and stormed out of the room, 370 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,760 just like she has done here today. 371 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,400 Again, you can't see that on the camera, I don't suppose, 372 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,500 because she's going out the back door. 373 00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:10,760 But I know that I personally have tried 374 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,040 to have a conversation with her 375 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:17,980 and tried to relay to her what my opinions are 376 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:19,720 on some of the issues that she has. 377 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:25,960 Today she brought in an issue to the board and said that we weren't funding the Board 378 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:26,680 of Elections. 379 00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:36,100 I talked to her about that personally, one-on-one, and we have funded the Board of Elections 380 00:32:37,380 --> 00:32:42,640 every year that I know of at almost exactly the amount that they asked for. 381 00:32:43,140 --> 00:32:49,890 We don't give away money to people that don't need it, and if they don't ask for it, 382 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:56,570 we don't give it to them. And in election years, when we've had shortages in the Board 383 00:32:56,570 --> 00:33:03,050 of Elections, we have increased their budget so they had enough money to do what they need 384 00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:09,950 to do. I certainly believe that we fund the Board of Elections adequately and we will 385 00:33:09,950 --> 00:33:16,650 continue to do that. As far as election rules, those are made by the General Assembly 386 00:33:16,650 --> 00:33:23,250 and we don't have any control over whether we have drop boxes or any other kind of scam 387 00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:30,450 for our elections. That is up to the legislature. And she also mentioned the Georgetown Park, 388 00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:35,350 which is not even a county park. It belongs to the city of Jacksonville and has nothing 389 00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:39,150 to do with these county commissioners. So I 390 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,000 appreciate her passion for her issues. 391 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:53,440 but she doesn't understand and she doesn't wait around long enough and she 392 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,160 won't listen when somebody tries to explain to her that there are other 393 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,500 opinions beside hers. 394 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,440 And Mr. Jarman, I appreciate you coming tonight. I heard 395 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:12,060 some misinformation there. There are only two volunteer fire departments that 396 00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:17,340 aren't getting funding for their capital needs and they're not getting funding for 397 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,920 the capital needs because they don't want to agree to a contract with Anzlo 398 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:31,500 County and the commissioners have worked for a year to get contracts with all 399 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:36,740 of our volunteer fire departments to make sure that our taxpayers are 400 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:44,340 protected when these volunteer fire departments take taxpayer money, which 401 00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:49,120 this year will be over ten million dollars that we'll fund our volunteer 402 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:55,240 fire departments with. And all those two fire departments have to do is agree to 403 00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:59,520 a very simple contract and they can get money for their capital expenses just 404 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:09,040 like the other 12, 11, 12 volunteer fire departments are getting funded for their capital expenses. 405 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:18,100 So I appreciate your concern, but I'm happy to talk to you about the facts if you're interested. 406 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,360 That's all I have to say, Mr. Chairman. 407 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:21,960 Thank you. 408 00:35:22,580 --> 00:35:23,580 Thank you, Mr. Bennett. 409 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,720 Mr. McCann. 410 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:25,820 Good. 411 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:27,160 Mr. Davis. 412 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,060 too 413 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:36,160 much to say tonight thank you Wyatt for being here today thank you for what 414 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,000 you've done in Raleigh Forest I know you've worked hard I think your 415 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,100 reputation up there has preceded your youth and good job man just thank you 416 00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:53,120 for what you're doing Carter always man workshop today thank you you're so I 417 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,020 think what it's you have a job to do like any of us but you were so well 418 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:02,720 prepared for the questions today. That's the impressive part, is you thought ahead, not 419 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,920 just of the topic, but what might be asked of you. And I really appreciate that. It shows 420 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,760 us that you value our time. So thank you for that. 421 00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:16,400 Mr. Jarman, I think it will be good 422 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,720 for you and Mr. Bennett to discuss things, because I don't think Mr. Bennett knows 423 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,180 everything either. So perhaps you can share with him some of the other issues that 424 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:34,860 that I'm at least I'm aware of, that what you have maybe a little more factual than what 425 00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:40,840 he realizes. But I do appreciate you coming today. And again, it's my hope that we will 426 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,200 work with Piney. I know at least Piney Green wants to work with us, that we will reach 427 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,680 out and solve that one. I'm not aware of the situation yet with the other department 428 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:57,000 Department, but just thankful for everyone here today. Thank you, Ms. Kerry, for giving 429 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,680 me homework to do. So we'll get that done and being willing to work with the churches 430 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,720 in the local area, I'm excited about that as well. So and for all the people watching, 431 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:09,120 thank you for taking time out to watch. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 432 00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:14,520 Sir, Mr. Pageant, I'll just thank you. Bye for coming tonight. Thank you. 433 00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:15,520 Mr. Chairman? 434 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,060 I've got a lot to say, but I'm not going to say it. 435 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,780 A lot of opinions. 436 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,760 I'm not going to voice them. 437 00:37:20,660 --> 00:37:24,120 I'm not even going to touch on what the commissioners talked about, because I have a very different 438 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,220 opinion, and I'm pretty boisterous about that, but I want to thank everybody for coming 439 00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:28,560 tonight. 440 00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:32,020 If you want to know my opinion, how I feel, ask me. 441 00:37:32,060 --> 00:37:32,840 I'll be more than happy to tell you. 442 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:33,800 Have a great week. 443 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,880 I'm speechless. 444 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,780 Let's see if you keep it speechless. 445 00:37:41,140 --> 00:37:41,600 I can't. 446 00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:44,260 I'm pushing the time. 447 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,020 I'm pushing the time. 448 00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:47,060 I'm pushing the time. 449 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:47,240 I'm pushing the time. 450 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,980 That way I just appreciate everybody coming in tonight. 451 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:53,860 This is what it is for. 452 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,920 That's what the five minutes of public comment is for, to come up and share your thoughts, 453 00:37:57,100 --> 00:38:00,440 your opinions, your concerns, and what you feel is necessary to share with us. 454 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,060 And we'll continue to work and do what we believe is in the best interest of everyone. 455 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,480 And we appreciate Mr. Jarman coming in and the work he does there, I believe in Richlands, 456 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,100 the work that's going on there. 457 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:19,780 and I know Mr. Smitherman that the strategic planning team will be coming 458 00:38:19,780 --> 00:38:24,680 to Richlands to get the input from, matter of fact, it's going to be all of our 459 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,700 volunteer fire departments in that plan to really dig down what 460 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:33,800 everybody needs and what's going to benefit everyone as we continue to move 461 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,520 forward with that. So number one, we appreciate the professionalism of the 462 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,520 volunteers. We appreciate what you do because if you didn't have you, we 463 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:49,900 would have a very highly increased ISO rating, so we appreciate that effort and we look forward 464 00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:55,240 to as this continues to grow to getting that input and build the best fire departments 465 00:38:55,820 --> 00:39:00,840 across Donzalo County, all the volunteers, the municipalities, Camp Lejeune, and just 466 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,020 really turn into what it is that you want, not just necessarily that but all the citizens 467 00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:06,520 as well. 468 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,960 So collectively, we'll be able to turn this into everything that we need and really work 469 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:18,540 together in building that from strategic fire to strategic with our EMS stations and working 470 00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:22,280 together to build those because at the end of the day, it's all about Oslo County. 471 00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:26,980 And that's the one thing that I want everyone to understand is this is about Oslo County. 472 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,120 From Oslo County schools, to Oslo County government, to Oslo County volunteer fire, 473 00:39:32,540 --> 00:39:32,820 EMS. 474 00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:38,780 is just this is what makes us go and we are a great example of what what 475 00:39:38,780 --> 00:39:42,300 government is about representative and being able to come to the microphone and 476 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:47,260 share those share those thoughts whether we agree or disagree this is 477 00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:51,020 your this is your forum as well so as we continue to work together we'll 478 00:39:51,020 --> 00:39:56,400 continue to make Honza County a great place to live work learn and raise a 479 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:02,020 family. Motion to adjourn. So moved. We're adjourned.