1 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:27,390 We arms the county board of commissioners, regular meeting from Monday, August 17, 2026 to order at this time. 2 00:00:27,590 --> 00:00:31,550 And we'll ask our county attorney Mr. Brett to sound to provide the invocation of the students. 3 00:00:32,550 --> 00:00:41,770 Yes, Mr. Chairman, let us pray. Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this opportunity to come before you can conduct the business of odds of a county. 4 00:00:42,550 --> 00:00:46,210 Please guide our board as they address the matters on today's agenda. 5 00:00:46,770 --> 00:00:53,270 We pray for your blessing and favor of our teachers and students as they return to the classroom for the upcoming school year. 6 00:00:54,550 --> 00:00:58,210 Now we do this day, bring you honor and glory on that. 7 00:00:59,550 --> 00:01:06,030 Now with the respect and reverence for the face, beliefs and traditions of those gathered here tonight, please join me in a moment of silence. 8 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Please stand and join us in the pledge of allegiance. 9 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,400 I 10 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:21,860 pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, which 11 00:01:21,860 --> 00:01:28,660 stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 12 00:01:31,730 --> 00:01:35,410 I can take a minute to recognize all the elected officials with us this evening. 13 00:01:35,550 --> 00:01:41,350 We have a few, like the welcome Richlands Town Allerman, Ms. Maryland Buns. 14 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:48,030 She's here with us tonight, Town of North Top, so Beach Mayor, Rick Grant, and newly appointed 15 00:01:48,030 --> 00:01:54,950 town, Alderman, Fred Fontana, welcome, Mayor Pete Arnien from Holly Ridge, and we have 16 00:01:54,950 --> 00:02:00,390 Vice Chair from the Board of Education, Mr. Bradley Williams, and Board of Education member, 17 00:02:00,650 --> 00:02:01,450 Ms. Michelle Halley. 18 00:02:01,850 --> 00:02:06,270 So we appreciate everyone being here tonight, including Register of Deeds of Mega-German, 19 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:09,670 as well as Sheriff Chris Thomas. 20 00:02:09,670 --> 00:02:19,670 So I think we've got everybody here in the house, so we appreciate everyone being here this evening and we'll move on to asking everyone to 21 00:02:19,670 --> 00:02:23,890 of silent your cell phones or place in vibrate mode. 22 00:02:24,510 --> 00:02:28,070 And now we need an adoption of the agenda for tonight. 23 00:02:31,540 --> 00:02:33,480 We need to, we've got a motion to. 24 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,380 How about that, that's consent consent consent. 25 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,180 Okay, that's not enough. 26 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:41,000 So we have a motion in a second. 27 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:42,320 Any discussion? 28 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:43,880 All in favor? 29 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,080 I, I, I was opposed. 30 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,060 Motion carries. 31 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:53,600 So now we'll move to approval items on the consent agenda, Mr. Chair. 32 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:57,880 Motion to amend the agenda to add item 2E agree agreement between 33 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Azza County Board of Education. 34 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,840 Azza County Sheriff for the school resource services program. 35 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,660 We have a motion to move. 36 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,580 And a second, any discussion on the amendment? 37 00:03:09,580 --> 00:03:12,420 Hearing none all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 38 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:14,060 Those opposed. 39 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:15,520 Those opposed. 40 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Hearing none. 41 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,500 Mr. Beacon, motion to adopt the agenda as amended. 42 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:27,340 So motion in a second to approve the consent agenda as amended in all in favor? 43 00:03:28,180 --> 00:03:28,940 Those opposed. 44 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:31,760 We are there. 45 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:34,900 So the consent agenda has been adopted. 46 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,220 So the Board offers the public one opportunity to speak during the meeting comments should be limited 47 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:45,900 to no more than five minutes and maybe on any issue in which the Board of Commissioners has control. 48 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:47,780 and accordance with the Board's adopted roles 49 00:03:47,780 --> 00:03:50,080 of procedure of citizen shall address all comments 50 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,100 to the Board as a whole and not one individual commissioner. 51 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,900 Commissioner shall reserve responses in fitting 52 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,140 for the commissioner period on the agenda. 53 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,060 So we are at item three public comment, Mr. Eaton, 54 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,840 do we have anyone signed up this evening? 55 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,220 Yes, sir. We have three individuals. 56 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,260 First one is Wesley Hart. 57 00:04:18,230 --> 00:04:19,290 Good afternoon, gentlemen. 58 00:04:20,070 --> 00:04:22,230 Hey, I really appreciate you guys' service. 59 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:23,250 I really do. 60 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:31,710 When I retired in 2005, I could have retired anywhere in the United States, anywhere. 61 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:35,590 Marine Corps would have moved me anywhere I wanted to do it. 62 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:37,010 And I weighed my different options. 63 00:04:37,390 --> 00:04:42,850 And even though the jobs weren't here, housing was affordable and taxes were good. 64 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:50,550 However, that has drastically changed, not just for me, but for everybody. 65 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:57,550 And 2022, my real estate tax is 1.27.3%. 66 00:05:00,050 --> 00:05:09,430 Without this year, without this Senate bill, it would have went up another 7.6 percent. 67 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:16,410 So, in five years, that went up 36.9 percent. Now, I'm a very fortunate individual. 68 00:05:17,450 --> 00:05:24,190 I can afford to pay the additional property tax. But I talk to a lot of people that can't. 69 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:27,050 is the difference between putting food on the table 70 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:28,590 or keeping their property. 71 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:30,230 And it's just wrong. 72 00:05:31,050 --> 00:05:32,910 And how did we get there? 73 00:05:33,290 --> 00:05:36,990 I was looking at the at the different audits in a 2022, 74 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:44,890 the fund balance available was 115,544,811. 75 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:52,650 It was 50.6% of our budget, which comes out, 76 00:05:52,650 --> 00:06:00,490 And they compare it to the equivalence to onswell county, and we're about 6% higher than the average. 77 00:06:01,690 --> 00:06:19,450 And 2025, it's ballooned up to 187,666,969 million dollars, or 63.67% of that budget. The average there was 47%. 78 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:29,070 So where the tax increase, the property tax increase, we collected 110,000, and 2022. 79 00:06:30,210 --> 00:06:42,830 Without a millerate increase in 2025, we collected 143,743,000, or almost 33 million dollars 80 00:06:42,830 --> 00:06:44,090 more in money, 81 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:59,800 sales tax, 72,969, 2025, 81,683,534, over 9 million. So, we increased 82 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:08,140 at 42 million, 42 million dollars. With that fun balance of doing what happened is that 83 00:07:08,140 --> 00:07:15,720 that we've been over charging people for taxes for to look at the three priorities that you 84 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:24,720 guys, three priorities, you guys have a $75 million hub, a $40 million indoor recreation 85 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:33,480 center, and a $30 to $50 million of park improvement. And I looked at the park improvement plan 86 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,660 And I read that and it was based off a study in 2020 during COVID. 87 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,060 They got 400, their goal was to get 400 surveys back. 88 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,040 They got 426. 89 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:56,140 And out of the people that they were surveyed, 24% said an indoor recreation center, 24% that's 102 people. 90 00:07:56,260 --> 00:08:01,920 So out of the whole county, we're talking 102 people, said it was a good idea to build it. 91 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:07,200 and then we're going to build it right up the road here in the middle of nowhere and I wonder 92 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:13,320 on the people that live at Popsell and Holly Ridge, how many people are actually going to use that? 93 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:21,720 That's $40 million. If we were to do, if we were to do finance with general obligation bonds, 94 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:29,220 you would have to get and put it on a referendum to the voters. The talks that I talked to people 95 00:08:29,220 --> 00:08:32,940 about these three initiatives, three of the top six initiatives 96 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:37,100 of the county, I haven't met one person in favor of it. 97 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:40,680 Not one, and it's absolutely crazy. 98 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,320 I've been asking you guys to put this stuff for a referendum. 99 00:08:45,140 --> 00:08:48,900 Before we spend money on an indoor recreation 100 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:50,680 feelers, take it to the voters. 101 00:08:50,820 --> 00:08:52,180 That's $40 million. 102 00:08:53,940 --> 00:08:57,210 That's absolutely crazy. 103 00:08:57,210 --> 00:09:02,790 I have more stuff in here on past spendings. 104 00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:05,970 We have not done a good job as a county. 105 00:09:07,390 --> 00:09:11,870 The public doesn't really understand, but that's, that's my thing, take these initiatives 106 00:09:11,870 --> 00:09:16,690 to the, to the voter on whether or not they really, really want it. 107 00:09:16,910 --> 00:09:17,410 Thank you. 108 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:23,350 Next person is Danielle Cornell. 109 00:09:23,970 --> 00:09:25,170 Daniel Cornell. 110 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:28,290 Daniel. 111 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:31,600 How you doing, Mr. Chairman? 112 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,700 of the Commissioners. Thank you very much for your service to this community and for allowing me to speak. 113 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:44,350 Tonight, I want to talk about what happens when an ordinary citizen tries to get a very ordinary answer from his government. 114 00:09:44,510 --> 00:09:52,490 For the past several weeks, I have been trying to answer one basic question about the automated license plate readers being operated by the Onslow County Sheriff's Office. 115 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:54,270 Where did the money come from? 116 00:09:54,850 --> 00:09:57,850 I have been told that these cameras were paid for with grant funding. 117 00:09:58,170 --> 00:09:59,850 Okay, then I would like to see the grant. 118 00:09:59,850 --> 00:09:59,970 You 119 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Have been simple. Instead, I now have two public records request concerning this program denied and closed. My first request 120 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,080 sought administrative records concerning the program, including contracts funding records, policies, training 121 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,740 materials, agreements, audits, and other administrative information. I was denied. The sheriff's office 122 00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:24,700 cited North Carolina law protecting captured license plate data. There was one problem. I wasn't asking 123 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:29,660 for capture license plate data. So I went back and tried again. This time I made the distinction 124 00:10:29,660 --> 00:10:35,040 unmistakable. I specifically excluded captured plate data. I excluded individual vehicle 125 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,220 information, investigative queries and other protected information. I wanted administrative records. 126 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:47,480 Evaluation records funding records policies audit oversight. And that request was closed and denied 127 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,200 The explanation I received was that onslow county does not contract with flock. 128 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:53,460 Cool. 129 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,700 I didn't say a word about flock. 130 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,420 So after two attempts, I still don't have the records, and I still don't have the answer 131 00:10:59,420 --> 00:11:00,920 to the simplest question of all. 132 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:02,700 Where did the money come from? 133 00:11:03,260 --> 00:11:05,260 Commissioners, this should not be this difficult. 134 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,020 That's when this became even harder for me to understand. 135 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,520 In October 2024, First Baptist Church of Swans were adunated $5,000 136 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,900 to the sheriff's office for drone equipment, 5,000. 137 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,060 The sheriff's office publicly announced it and the sheriff publicly thanked the church and its congregation. 138 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:32,380 When marine federal unit or when marine federal credit union contributed $30,000 towards the sheriff's office drone program, 139 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,940 that received public attention too. 140 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:40,720 Previous funding for body camera technology was also publicly discussed and I think it's great. 141 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:47,400 When an outside organization or grant helps our sheriff office obtain equipment, tell us all about it. 142 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,320 That's something a law enforcement agency can be proud of. 143 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:51,940 But here's what I can't reconcile. 144 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:58,900 I've been unable to locate a comparable public announcement identifying the grant that supposedly paid for these license plate readers. 145 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:04,820 And after two public records request, I still haven't been provided documentation identifying it. 146 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,240 I'm not standing here accusing the sheriff or anyone in the sheriff's department about lying about this grant. 147 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,920 I'm not accusing anyone of deliberately concealing it. 148 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,660 I don't have evidence to make either accusation and that would be foolish. 149 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,620 I'm asking for the paperwork. 150 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:23,760 What grant paid for these cameras, who awarded it, how much was awarded, who applied 151 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:30,120 for it, who accepted it, when was it accepted, was there a county match, where is the award 152 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,500 letter, where is the grant agreement, where is the accounting trail showing how these 153 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:35,820 cameras were paid for. 154 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:39,740 Those are questions about license plate or questions about an investigation. 155 00:12:40,380 --> 00:12:43,240 They're not questions about where somebody drove last Tuesday. 156 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,500 Their questions about government administration and money. 157 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,580 And that's why I'm bringing this to you tonight. 158 00:12:48,940 --> 00:12:50,560 I've tried the ordinary process. 159 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:52,020 I've submitted the request. 160 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,980 I've clarified what I was seeking. 161 00:12:54,420 --> 00:12:59,380 And I've specifically excluded the protected information that I was told I cannot have. 162 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,020 And I still don't have an answer. 163 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,940 So I'm asking this board for something very simple. 164 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:17,780 find the grant. Find out what was purchased and how it was paid for and make the non-confidential administrative records available to the public because I shouldn't have to become a forensic account and just to find out who paid for 12 cameras. 165 00:13:18,660 --> 00:13:21,960 $5,000 for drone equipment was worth telling the public about. 166 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,560 30,000 dollars for drone program is absolutely necessary to tell the public. 167 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:31,620 Federal funding for body cameras was worth shouting at the rooftops. 168 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:35,540 So if grant money paid for these license plate readers, tell us. 169 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:38,200 Tell us who provided it, tell us how much, show us the grant. 170 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:43,480 Because if there is a perfectly ordinary explanation for all of this, transparency ends 171 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,200 this controversy, secrecy only feeds it. 172 00:13:46,540 --> 00:13:51,180 After two denied and closed public records request, I think the citizens of Oncelo County 173 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:54,260 They have earned something remarkably simple and answered. 174 00:13:54,940 --> 00:13:55,820 Thank you. 175 00:13:56,580 --> 00:13:56,760 Thank you. 176 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,480 You as Cornell, Mr. Eden? 177 00:13:58,620 --> 00:13:59,700 Rebecca Cooper? 178 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:17,580 Thank you for the opportunity to speak. 179 00:14:17,820 --> 00:14:22,380 I do want to be clear that I understand the automated license plate cameras were purchased 180 00:14:22,380 --> 00:14:26,320 and installed by the Oslo County Sheriff's Office, not directly by this board. 181 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,540 But you are the people that residents look to when they have a serious concern about transparency 182 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:34,240 the use of taxpayer money and the direction of our county. 183 00:14:35,060 --> 00:14:38,780 $38,000 is not a small amount of money to the people of Onslow County. 184 00:14:39,140 --> 00:14:41,880 For many families, it's the cost of a dependable new car. 185 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,020 For this county, it could have funded specialized training for law enforcement officers, 186 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,840 protective equipment, such as ballistic plates, the initial training of a K-9, or increased 187 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,700 support for organizations like one place that serve children who have been victimized. 188 00:14:55,020 --> 00:14:58,980 Instead, the money was used to install 12 automated license plate reader cameras through 189 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:08,440 These cameras were installed without meaningful public notice and without people of this county having an opportunity to decide whether they wanted this form of surveillance in their communities. 190 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:16,300 This isn't about a camera catching someone who committed a crime. These systems collect and store information on the vehicles of ordinary people. 191 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:24,400 People going to work, taking their children to school, going to church, visiting family, attending medical appointments or simply driving through their own county. 192 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,540 Just because technology makes this possible does not mean the government should use it. 193 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,080 The lack of transparency is just as concerning. When public records are difficult to obtain, 194 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,280 residents are naturally going to ask what's being hidden, who has access to this information, 195 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:42,260 how long is it kept, and who reviews the audit logs. And these concerns are not hypothetical. 196 00:15:42,740 --> 00:15:46,480 Law enforcement officers in our very own state have already been arrested for misusing these 197 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,140 camera systems for personal and non-law enforcement purposes. I'm not here tonight to assign 198 00:15:51,140 --> 00:15:55,880 responsibility for the purpose. I'm here because residents deserve transparency, answers, 199 00:15:56,180 --> 00:15:59,160 and a public conversation that should have happened before these cameras went up. 200 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,680 The people of Anso County should not have to accept mass surveillance simply because it has 201 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,660 already been installed. The cameras should come down. The people of Anso County deserve safety, 202 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,460 but they also deserve privacy, freedom of movement, and accounting government that does not 203 00:16:12,460 --> 00:16:17,800 treat every resident as someone who must be tracked. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Cooper. 204 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,120 I'm 205 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:33,540 So we'll move to item four. We have two public hearings that are scheduled this evening and the first one is the Sunset Sands Conditional Resonning and Mr. Carter Metcalf will present this item. 206 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:42,950 Good evening, Chairman and Board of Commissioners. 207 00:16:43,190 --> 00:16:52,230 So the first item for the rezoning section of tonight's meeting will be the Sunset Sands Conditional Resonning Series Z-2026-3. 208 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:57,910 The applicant is Thomas engineering, and the owner is a size construction incorporated. 209 00:16:59,150 --> 00:17:05,210 An overview of the conditional reasoning request number three is a requested zoning change from 210 00:17:05,210 --> 00:17:12,230 highway business or HB and residential five or R5 to conditional zoning, highway business or 211 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:17,290 HB, CZ, 767-9.2. 212 00:17:17,290 --> 00:17:25,030 two tax map numbers in question, 767-9.2, and 767-9.12. 213 00:17:25,550 --> 00:17:32,910 So located off of NC Highway 210 and in the Stump Sound Township, the rezoning area is not the total 214 00:17:32,910 --> 00:17:39,190 area of both parcels. Rather it is a split zoning request and therefore the rezoning area is 215 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:49,190 20.15 acres of the total of the two parcels and we look at the existing use is vacant and forested. 216 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:57,570 There is a 10 inch on a water main along Highway 210, as well as also a sewer force main. 217 00:17:58,210 --> 00:18:03,110 The fire service for the property is Turkey Creek with an IOSO rating of 4. 218 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:09,990 Our most recent traffic count, that's closest to this property, comes from 2024 with a 219 00:18:09,990 --> 00:18:19,130 trip count of 10,500 staff estimated capacity at 14,000, as well as also when we look 220 00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:26,250 at the state prioritization cycle, there is a proposed widening of in C210, that will widen 221 00:18:26,250 --> 00:18:31,330 from the intersection with the US-17, just south of the intersection of folks in road. 222 00:18:31,330 --> 00:18:36,030 the project is funded with an estimated construction date of 2034. 223 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:40,210 When we look at these schools, serving the property, 224 00:18:40,350 --> 00:18:43,790 it's coastal elementary, Dixon, middle school, and Dixon high school. 225 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:46,130 All the schools are currently over capacity, 226 00:18:46,410 --> 00:18:48,790 but with this proposed rezoning being commercial in nature, 227 00:18:49,450 --> 00:18:53,150 we would not estimate any new students for the school system, 228 00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:55,950 unless it was a multi-family development. 229 00:18:57,050 --> 00:18:59,750 Here when we look at the rezoning area, 230 00:18:59,750 --> 00:19:08,550 You can see the property there is currently in the purple designation or R5 and then also a portion in the HB designation. 231 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:17,010 And the area with the black cross hatching or the 20 acres of the partial for the property. 232 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,080 If you compare the two zoning districts HB, there is no minimum lot size. 233 00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:29,660 Does allow multi-family at 20 units per acre and its purpose is to accommodate regional scale commercial uses. 234 00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:37,940 And foster economic development, along our major highway corridors, there's a variety of uses for this and a variety of non-residential uses. 235 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:47,920 So we compare residential five, it has a 5,000 minimum lot size, as well as the same density for multi-family as highway business. 236 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:54,260 Here, its purpose is to combat moderate to high density, single-family residential developments. 237 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:58,280 And when we look at multi-family, it would be up to 20 to 20 units. 238 00:20:02,620 --> 00:20:11,460 Here, this proposed conditional zoning district or HBCZ 767-9.2. Its purpose is to provide for a compatible 239 00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:17,280 commercial development by modifying the standard highway business zoning district and by prohibiting 240 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:24,320 certain land uses and while selecting certain uses by right. It continues to, for the residential 241 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,880 uses, continues to allow multi-family, multi-family is already allowed and it will continue to 242 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:35,140 Now that, as well as also has a variety of non-residential uses, included in your packet 243 00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:35,760 as a touch number. 244 00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:41,240 One, it goes through the table permitted uses, in which one's would change designations, 245 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:43,020 in which one would not. 246 00:20:43,860 --> 00:20:49,020 There's a variety of uses that have been removed, such as some that relates to both storage 247 00:20:49,020 --> 00:20:54,040 or dry stacks, as well as also to back up shops that have been removed, and there's some 248 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,540 that have been changed from a special use permit over towards permitted by right, and there's 249 00:20:59,540 --> 00:21:06,280 variety of uses there, but to include some manufacturing uses, bed and breakfast, breweries, 250 00:21:06,420 --> 00:21:09,660 and stillaries, and bars have also been changed. 251 00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:17,440 Take a look at the comprehensive plan that is designated water side community, and its intent 252 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,480 is to identify those areas of the unincorporated county that have that nexus between the land 253 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:28,040 and the water, and our heritage as a working waterfront community, and honoring that legacy and 254 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:34,780 voting uses, that certainly advance both residential and commercial development. 255 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,100 To look at the non-residential section of our land use and development summary, we would 256 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:45,980 want a certainly zoning that would promote small commercial and service uses that would 257 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:51,060 serve those coastal neighborhoods and support tourism, and again, honor that heritage of 258 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:53,740 having working waterfronts. 259 00:21:55,270 --> 00:22:00,710 here we can look at our comprehensive plan on so horizon 2040 and you can see this whole section 260 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:05,870 there south of old folks in road, especially along our two-ten corridor, they're given that 261 00:22:05,870 --> 00:22:12,250 water side community designation. The property there above us is conservation and that is 262 00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:18,270 also county own property and then as we go to Mortes North that orange designation is the village 263 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:23,990 category where we want to see again a town center for the seems very area. When we look at environmental 264 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:30,010 conditions we can see here. There are blue line streams on the property as well as 265 00:22:30,010 --> 00:22:34,390 also regulated flood zones. There's no wetlands have been submitted to counting 266 00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:38,150 at this time, but there certainly would be a part of the development review 267 00:22:38,150 --> 00:22:38,930 process. 268 00:22:42,270 --> 00:22:45,530 When we look at reasonableness in the public interest, it is an important 269 00:22:45,530 --> 00:22:49,910 factor in the way all resoundings. Here we can see that it is certainly 270 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:56,990 We potentially reasonable because highway business does align with the non-residential 271 00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:58,150 land use and development summary. 272 00:22:58,510 --> 00:23:03,050 Therefore, it could be considered appropriate for our future land use map. 273 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:05,830 We want to proactively manage growth and guide new development. 274 00:23:06,030 --> 00:23:10,570 There are some aspects of the infrastructure in this area of St. Spherry that would be able to 275 00:23:10,570 --> 00:23:12,090 support the new development. 276 00:23:13,170 --> 00:23:17,450 We look, as well, objective 6.2, we want to promote a wide range of commercial activity throughout 277 00:23:17,450 --> 00:23:22,190 County at appropriate locations and having highway business along a major highway 278 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:27,630 corridor, we're certainly be one of those locations. And also objectives 6.3 279 00:23:27,630 --> 00:23:31,750 want to encourage industrial and economic development and in general have a 280 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:32,970 pro-growth attitude. 281 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:40,370 Objective 2.4 was certainly being non-supporting objective. All schools in this area 282 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:44,610 currently over-compaciting and there certainly is the potential for a multi-family 283 00:23:44,610 --> 00:23:49,810 development. But that potential currently already exists on the property. This 284 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:54,010 rezoning would not change that fact. And objective 6.1 we want to promote a 285 00:23:54,010 --> 00:23:58,410 broad range of housing types. There would be a limited or more limited allowed 286 00:23:58,410 --> 00:24:01,850 residential types with their proposed rezoning. Then what is currently allowed 287 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:08,340 in our five. I'm going to go planning board met on June 4th and recommended you 288 00:24:08,340 --> 00:24:14,040 to see approval of the request. You know citizens spoke at the meeting. We did 289 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:20,820 have one email sent in expressing concerns of multi-family development from a nearby owner. 290 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:25,600 No military impacts though were presented during the planning board meeting and our remarks 291 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:31,760 of from our chairman of planning board, as follows, there is a 20.15 acre parcel, which 292 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,500 is part of an over 600 acre parcel located on Highway 210 in the Stump Sound Township. 293 00:24:37,940 --> 00:24:42,100 It's currently zoned HP in our five and is proposed to be rezoned to conditional HP. 294 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,040 This request will result in split zoning. 295 00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:49,900 The property is currently owned by a size construction, and the petitioners represent a 296 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:54,820 spoke and explain the only specific uses would be permitted on the rezoning, which would include 297 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:57,540 multi-family and various retail on-service businesses. 298 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960 There was a neighborhood meeting held in six. 299 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,380 Citizens attend, attended, at which concerns and questions about the type of development, its road 300 00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:11,420 access, existing wetlands and required buffering. There's one letter opposing the inclusion of 301 00:25:11,420 --> 00:25:16,820 multi-family housing, otherwise there were no other public comments. The reasoning was to be consistent 302 00:25:16,820 --> 00:25:20,380 with the comprehensive plan and the future land use map. 303 00:25:22,670 --> 00:25:24,910 Here, you can see an aerial of the surrounding 304 00:25:24,910 --> 00:25:30,490 area and see the proposed 20 acre frontage that's proposed to be 305 00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:33,230 rezoned. You can see it's proximity there to other commercial 306 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:38,550 development. They're just north of a utility sub station and as 307 00:25:38,550 --> 00:25:41,770 well north of north shore and right across from an apartment 308 00:25:41,770 --> 00:25:42,490 complex. 309 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:48,640 You can see where we posted the sign for tonight's meeting. 310 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,260 A little bit of a wider view of what the property looks like if you're 311 00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:56,360 driving by on highway 210 headed towards north 312 00:26:00,330 --> 00:26:16,270 This is the additional site plane that was submitted that shows the proposed split zoning and shows the area there and the darker red is, again, what aligns with what has been submitted so far of the 20 acres being proposed would be resumed. 313 00:26:19,330 --> 00:26:30,750 And we'll go through the conditions. So the first condition is staff recommends any proposed future subdivision that would be reviewed through the appropriate subdivision or a view process to include concept preliminary plan and final plan. 314 00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:33,350 as outlined and non-so-counting subdivision ordinance. 315 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:35,830 So there certainly could be proposed subdivisions, 316 00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:38,830 such as a commercial subdivision or residential one. 317 00:26:38,990 --> 00:26:41,410 And we want to make sure that they follow the appropriate processes. 318 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:45,990 Staff also recommends any proposed non-residential development. 319 00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:49,030 Be reviewed under the appropriate cycling review process 320 00:26:49,030 --> 00:26:51,310 as outlined and non-so-counting zoning ordinance, 321 00:26:51,670 --> 00:26:53,690 whether it be major, minor, or basic. 322 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:57,870 Again, ensuring any sort of commercial development 323 00:26:57,870 --> 00:27:00,730 is being held to the standards and non-so-counting zoning ordinance. 324 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:07,490 staff recommends that any proposed use within the conditional zoning district be subject to the 325 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:11,810 additional required standards for suit an article nine of the also county zoning 326 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:16,530 ordinance therefore any sort of use would have to adhere to the same standards as in the 327 00:27:16,530 --> 00:27:17,990 rest of the county 328 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:23,410 condition for the planning development director may allow minor amendments 329 00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:27,770 to the application without some middle of the entire package as long as it is not altered 330 00:27:27,770 --> 00:27:33,770 that basic relationship or any of the conditions that are there included for tonight such 331 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:39,590 as would allow a decrease in density or intensity, but we would not allow an amendment that 332 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:41,010 would, for example, eliminate a buffer. 333 00:27:43,660 --> 00:27:44,420 Get this number five. 334 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,560 The applicant proposes to restrict the table permitted uses to those specifically identified 335 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,060 in the table permitted uses for the conditional highway business owning district, as been 336 00:27:54,060 --> 00:27:57,520 submitted with the application, and has been provided as a touchment one. 337 00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:03,120 So, as a respectfully requested, the Board of Commissioners consider the proposed zoning 338 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:07,760 additional, to me, consider the proposed conditional zoning map amendment of 339 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,240 its series the 2020-26 number three, and consider the condition resolution for the 340 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,260 amendment, adopt a statement, a consistency for the amendment, and authorize the 341 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,560 chairman to sign the necessary documents on behalf of the county. 342 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:20,460 Let's include the staff presentation chairman. 343 00:28:21,580 --> 00:28:22,540 Thank you, Mr. Medkath. 344 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,140 We'll now open the public hearing street. 345 00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:27,340 Do we have anyone that has signed up to speak? 346 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:27,860 Yes, sir. 347 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,800 We have one individual, Mr. John Thomas. 348 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,640 John Thomas, and we're Thomas Engineering, out of Newbrough. 349 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,920 My address is 1316B, Commerce Drive, Newbrough in 1856 too. 350 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,320 That's my office, not where I live. 351 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:49,420 I don't really have anything to add. 352 00:28:49,660 --> 00:28:55,520 I represent the owner of this property, a size, and I guess we were the applicant on this 353 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,320 Thomas Engineering. 354 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,420 Again, I don't have anything to add, but be glad to answer any of the questions as far as 355 00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:06,260 conditions that were listed out in front of y'all we're all in agreement with those. 356 00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:08,300 We accept that. 357 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:08,380 Okay. 358 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,300 Thank you. 359 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:09,940 Thanks, Thomas. 360 00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:12,320 No other sound up. 361 00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:12,760 Yes, sir. 362 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:12,820 Okay. 363 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,160 So we'll close the public hearing and bring the matter to the commissioners at just 364 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:16,660 time. 365 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,780 Close to a group. 366 00:29:18,020 --> 00:29:18,060 Second. 367 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:19,080 We have a motion. 368 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:19,900 And a second. 369 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,720 Any discussion? 370 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Hearing none. 371 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,860 All in favor of the motion. 372 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:26,380 Signify by saying aye. 373 00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:28,100 Those opposed. 374 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Hearing none. 375 00:29:29,780 --> 00:29:30,100 Motion. 376 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,720 Mr. Metcalf, we'll bring you back for the next one for the hearing on Richlands Heights 377 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040 to Conditional Reasoning. 378 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:44,030 Thank you, Chairman. 379 00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:50,750 So, we have before you to the Richlands Heights to Conditional Reasoning, our series Z-2026 380 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:51,650 number four. 381 00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:56,090 The applicant is work construction incorporated, and the owner is a Richlands Jackson's 382 00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:56,930 work LLC. 383 00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:59,870 So, we'll be taking an overview of Condition Request number. 384 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:08,560 4, the requested change is from roll agricultural RA and residential aid manufactured R-8M-2, a conditional 385 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:17,620 zoning residential 10, or R-10-C-Z30-108. Tax map number of questions 30-108, located off of 386 00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:23,680 Kingston Highway and a rich lands loop road, and is located in the rich lands township. The total 387 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,740 Resoning area is 117.19 acres or the total parcel. 388 00:30:28,420 --> 00:30:31,220 The existing use of the property is that is vacant. 389 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,000 We take an overview of the service area for the subject rezoning. 390 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:44,460 Water is provided by Northwest Onslow, at least generally provided in that area of the county. 391 00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:51,380 Property properties in that general area are served by individual septic systems. 392 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:56,260 However, the applicant is proposing for the subject property to be served by Onwasa 393 00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:56,760 Souver. 394 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,300 When we look at the fire service for that area, North West Ons alone, also known as 395 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:06,080 Richlands, there, the Icer rating is four. 396 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:12,500 Look at our most recent traffic count comes from Kingston Highway and is close to the property, 397 00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:20,420 comes from around 2023 with a trip count of 17,000 staff estimates the capacity to over 35,000. 398 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:25,400 Schools serving the property of Richland's elementary treks on middle school and Richland's 399 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,280 high school. 400 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,000 So we look at the proposed capacity for those schools. 401 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,880 Richland's elementary treks on middle have capacity while this time Richland's high school 402 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200 would be projected the over capacity. 403 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,780 Here, you can see the proposed area as well as also these only districts. 404 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:46,100 Are they in that line? 405 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:48,660 Green color makes up a majority of the property. 406 00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:53,440 There you can see in the light red is the R-8M sections of the property. 407 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,500 It splits in this way because this property was a series of properties that were recombined. 408 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,890 When you move a property line though, it does not move a zoning line. 409 00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:04,620 That can only be done through this process. 410 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,380 We compare our zoning districts here. 411 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 One of the current zoning districts is rural agriculture. 412 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,780 And its purpose is to maintain that rural development pattern that preserves the agricultural character of the county. 413 00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:22,700 minimum law size is 20,000 square feet and allows for single-family residential 414 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,780 development, as well as also a variety of non-residential uses. 415 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Comparatively, the second zoning district that is on the property is residential 416 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,680 eight manufactured and it allows for moderate to hide-in city single-family and 417 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,440 multi-family residential developments with a specific emphasis on manufactured 418 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,440 housing. It's minimum law size is 8,000 square feet, 419 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,400 allows multi-family at a density of 10-dolling 420 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,000 and sprayaker by special use permit. 421 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,020 Well, as well, also allows for manufactured home parks 422 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:57,120 by special use permit as well. 423 00:32:59,910 --> 00:33:02,290 Proposed zoning district is a conditional zoning district 424 00:33:02,290 --> 00:33:05,250 residential 10 or R10, CZ30-108. 425 00:33:05,830 --> 00:33:08,230 And its purpose is to accommodate a moderate density 426 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:11,970 single-family residential development of 259 units. 427 00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:14,710 Minimum miles size would be 10,000 square feet. 428 00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:18,550 And again, that density would cap out at 259 units. 429 00:33:19,290 --> 00:33:24,350 The residential uses would be single family, as well as also some non-residential uses 430 00:33:24,350 --> 00:33:27,990 that would be corresponding with the residential 10 designation. 431 00:33:28,610 --> 00:33:32,110 You can see there that multi-family would not be one of the allowed uses. 432 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:35,940 Look at the comprehensive plan. 433 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,140 The properties designated as suburban growth and suburban growth intent is to provide 434 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:44,360 from moderate density of residential development and supporting non-residential 435 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:50,100 development as we continue to grow out from our urban growth areas and our municipalities. 436 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:56,380 We look at the language and development summary in the residential category, see that 437 00:33:56,380 --> 00:34:01,860 single-family residential development, specifically when we look at major subdivisions, 438 00:34:02,060 --> 00:34:07,340 we want to see a density of four to five dwelling units per acre or multi-family 439 00:34:07,340 --> 00:34:08,640 at a density of 8 to 10. 440 00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:12,540 The base zoning district of residential 10 is a corresponding zoning 441 00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:16,300 district to our comprehensive plan of suburban growth. 442 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,240 Here you can see the property is given that suburban growth 443 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:20,640 designation. 444 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:24,440 While as we start to transition away from rich lands, 445 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,780 you start transitioning to that rural residential category 446 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,620 or the agricultural and forestry category. 447 00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:36,610 You can see the property as it relates 448 00:34:36,610 --> 00:34:38,010 to the environmental conditions. 449 00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:50,730 There are no blue line streams on the property, as well as also no regulated flood zones and any sort of wetlands are submitted and they are on the cyclan for review. 450 00:34:55,020 --> 00:34:59,920 Look at the property is within a half mile of a property within the voluntary agriculture district. 451 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Rotated on the final platt, as well as our subdivision reviews, and therefore provided to any future 452 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,860 honours as it be on the platt of record. 453 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:14,310 We look at reasonableness and in the public interest, 454 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:20,150 could be considered reasonable because our future land use map, designates the property as 455 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:27,490 suburban growth, and residential 10 is a supporting district to that category. Objective 1.2, 456 00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:30,050 We want to proactively manage growth and guide new development. 457 00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:35,030 There are several aspects of infrastructure in this area that would be able to support that 458 00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:35,590 growth. 459 00:35:36,570 --> 00:35:39,490 Objective 6.1, we want to promote a broad range of housing types. 460 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:44,070 This would add certainly additional single family in that area of the county. 461 00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:46,850 And we'll look at non-supporting objectives. 462 00:35:47,150 --> 00:35:53,150 Objective 1.3, we want to preserve our rural landscape, transitioning, zoning from rural 463 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:59,050 our culture are too residential. It does not necessarily preserve our rural landscape. And then 464 00:35:59,050 --> 00:36:03,810 as well, objective 2.4, we want to coordinate with also county schools. The high school is 465 00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:07,810 over capacity. So that would be our limiting infrastructure in this area of the county. 466 00:36:11,130 --> 00:36:16,910 Planning board met on June of 4th and voting unanimously to recommend approval of the request. 467 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:20,490 Excuse me, this is June 4th. It should have been March 5th. I'm sorry. There's a typo there. 468 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:23,370 and noticed that it's in spoke on the request. 469 00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:26,530 And no military impacts were presented. 470 00:36:26,890 --> 00:36:29,470 The remarks of the Chairman of Planning Board is as follows. 471 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:32,310 This rezoning request was previously submitted 472 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:35,230 and was previously unanimously recommended for approval. 473 00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:39,730 It is a 117.19 acre property in the Richland's Township, 474 00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:42,410 currently zoned RA and R-D-A-M, 475 00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:45,070 proposed to be conditional 10 and unbied ward construction. 476 00:36:45,890 --> 00:36:48,370 An amendment to the conviction for sidewalks to specify 477 00:36:48,370 --> 00:36:53,270 that the sidewalks would be constructed in accordance with the Alzo County subdivision ordinance. 478 00:36:53,590 --> 00:36:55,990 Section 615 was agreed to by the pedestrian. 479 00:36:56,870 --> 00:37:01,810 The rezoning was found to be consistent with the comprehensive plan and the future land use map. 480 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,580 Here you can see the overall area. 481 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:07,320 This broader area will look. 482 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:12,020 You can see it's proximity to other nearby neighborhoods such as the way for the place there just to the south, 483 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,360 as well as other existing residential homes. 484 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,460 So we take a closer look there. 485 00:37:18,460 --> 00:37:24,500 You can see the properties currently vacant and forced it as well as its proximity to some other existing residential development. 486 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,660 You can see where we posted for tonight's meeting. 487 00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,990 A little bit of water look, and this again, this was our required posting along Kingston Highway, 488 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:43,310 but in an effort of, again, making sure the public is extra aware. 489 00:37:43,390 --> 00:37:48,910 We also posted where the property will have its secondary access, off of Richland's Loop Road. 490 00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:53,730 There's a wider look at where the property meets on Richland's Loop Road. 491 00:37:55,770 --> 00:38:00,150 Next, we'll take a look at the proposed subdivision, you can see there again, they'll have 492 00:38:00,150 --> 00:38:06,570 an access on Kingston Highway, as well as an access on Richland's Loop Road, as well as 493 00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:12,390 also the layout of the homes in relation to also the existing wetlands and the stormwater 494 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:12,990 ponds. 495 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,520 I'll take a look now at the proposed condition, so condition number 1 staff recommends that 496 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,800 a conditional zoning site plan be submitted and reviewed through the major subdivision process 497 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,260 to include concept plan, pre-liminary plan, and a final plan. 498 00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:34,940 This is again standard for all subdivisions to make sure that it hears to the Anzo County 499 00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:36,160 subdivision ordinance. 500 00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:42,340 Proposed condition number two that we allow for minor amendments without resiminal of the entire 501 00:38:42,340 --> 00:38:42,860 application. 502 00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:46,420 And again, only those amendments do not alter that basic relationship, 503 00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:51,140 such as as going through 504 00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:55,580 engineering in the event that they had to decrease by one lot that would not come back 505 00:38:55,580 --> 00:38:59,100 for this board, but they certainly could not add any additional lots. 506 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,900 Look at condition number three, Vanzo County Planning Board recommended that sidewalk should 507 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,240 be required to be installed as shown on the conditional site plan and planning board, as mentioned 508 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:14,120 in the chairman's comments, insured that condition is added that it's going to reflect the 509 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,320 standards and non-so County subdivision coordinates. 510 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:23,790 condition number four, the applicant proposes to remove the two-family residential and 511 00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:29,010 The multi-family residential uses that would be typically permitted by right in the residential 512 00:39:29,010 --> 00:39:35,290 10 districts and restrict the scope of development to 259 at single-family dwellings. 513 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:45,820 The R10 CZ30-108 zoning district is proposed to require a recreational playground that would 514 00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:52,670 be installed to be served to serve the residents of the development and in condition 515 00:39:52,670 --> 00:39:58,370 number six that the proposed zoning district shall utilize infiltration basins as the 516 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,120 Group stormwater control measures throughout the development, unless NCDEQ determined that an infiltration 517 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:12,640 basin is not necessarily appropriate, but ensuring that as well, all stormwater would 518 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:19,960 be retained on a site, thereby if DEQs stated that a stormwater permit could be obtained by 519 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:26,140 using other best management practices and other stormwater control measures, thereby maybe 520 00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:32,260 infiltration basin cannot be required. But, as we do not do, stormwater permitting, we want 521 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:34,120 to make sure that we defer to an expert in that. 522 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,400 So, there's a respectfully requested 523 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,040 the Board of Commissioners consider the proposed conditional zoning map amendment of 524 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:48,680 Series Z-26, number four. Consider the conditional resolution for the amendment, adopt a statement 525 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,920 of consistency for the amendment, and authorize the Chairman to sign the necessary documents 526 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,040 on behalf of the county. So, conclude the staff presentation, Chairman. 527 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:02,620 Thank you Mr. Medcap. At this time, we will open the public hearing. Mr. Newton, do we have anyone signed up to speak? 528 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,440 Mr. We have four individuals. The first one is Roberto Linker. 529 00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:22,100 Thank you. I hope you got the petitions that we brought in last month. 530 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:29,380 One was a hand-careed petition and signed, and one was a non-line petition and signed. 531 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:39,060 We don't feel like we have enough answer infrastructure to support 2509 houses. 532 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,700 I thought it was going to be about 220. 533 00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:50,420 Do the math. Two cars per house. Two cars per house with no children. 534 00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:53,940 All that flow is going to go two ways. 535 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:56,320 Kingston Highway, British Lands Loop. 536 00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,400 The roads already need repair. 537 00:42:00,140 --> 00:42:02,740 We're going to need two more traffic lights 538 00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:05,480 and probably extra flocks. 539 00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:10,800 So the schools are overcrowded and talking 540 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,260 to the teachers, talking to the people in the area. 541 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,000 We can't afford to have that many more houses. 542 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,980 We don't need that subdivision. 543 00:42:22,830 --> 00:42:26,570 And I'm not sure a water table can handle it either. 544 00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,590 I know our wildlife can't. 545 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:37,550 We need that wooded area for the wildlife who got bare and deer and skunks and fox and every other thing out there. 546 00:42:38,250 --> 00:42:43,610 I was coming home last week and a flock of turkeys suddenly just come across the street. 547 00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:50,070 I've lived there for 25 years. I see turkeys on the backside of my property, not on the road. 548 00:42:50,070 --> 00:42:54,030 So that means people are getting too close. 549 00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:59,470 More bear have been hit on highway and on gum branch. 550 00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:01,110 They're running out of territory. 551 00:43:01,630 --> 00:43:02,870 What are we going to do? 552 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:09,770 But people build more before we're ready for it. 553 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:15,430 We're not developing the infrastructure before we continue the building. 554 00:43:16,290 --> 00:43:17,410 Think about it. 555 00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:21,890 600 more cars, 400 minimum. 556 00:43:23,130 --> 00:43:24,090 Thank you. 557 00:43:25,540 --> 00:43:26,200 Thank you, Ms. Lincoln. 558 00:43:26,740 --> 00:43:27,100 Mr. Eden? 559 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,280 Yes, Mr. Jonathan Gossnell. 560 00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:39,540 Good evening. 561 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,000 I know this has been brought before you all before multiple times. 562 00:43:43,420 --> 00:43:45,640 So it's not much to add, same concerns. 563 00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:50,200 Very again, not much to add. 564 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,660 I don't know. 565 00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,840 It early on when this was proposed. 566 00:43:55,260 --> 00:43:56,080 It was brought up. 567 00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:59,020 How much it was designed to benefit the community. 568 00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:05,880 but I believe the community has spoken on so county has denied it multiple times so it is 569 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,740 abundantly clear that this is in the best interest of the developer and not the community 570 00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:15,840 and again you guys know the concerns they've been voiced multiple times. So I'll leave it at that. 571 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,960 Thank you, sir. Street. Avery Washington. 572 00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:34,810 Good evening ladies and gentlemen. Avery Washington. 573 00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:50,850 I want to speak positively about the project I'm familiar with Mr. Ward and from knowing him, 574 00:44:50,850 --> 00:44:58,870 I've had an opportunity to see him and the effort he's put into creating this community nearly from the beginning. 575 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:12,860 And so I just in part, because I know too much for my own good, I wanted to help create some awareness around some of the things that maybe folks don't know or don't see. 576 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:19,140 Right, they mentioned briefly one of the conditions about stormwater control measures and stormwater ponds. 577 00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:30,460 One of the things that weren't mentioned is that in addition to all of those measures, there are thousands of linear feet of ditching across this community, 578 00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:37,200 that are going to stay in place that also will assist in stormwater run-off, and that's 579 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:46,000 a part of why I imagine some folks feel like there are wetlands getting impacted, but after 580 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:52,760 being there for decades, the ground composition is not what they assume it is because it's 581 00:45:52,760 --> 00:46:00,320 a forested area, and there are concerns about infrastructure but many times folks don't realize 582 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,860 that developers are a huge part of who 583 00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:08,540 puts the bill to create new infrastructure faster than 584 00:46:08,540 --> 00:46:11,600 the municipalities, otherwise capable of budgeting 585 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,800 for and voting on and getting approved for. 586 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,260 So the traffic impacts are accounted for in a traffic 587 00:46:18,260 --> 00:46:22,960 impact analysis that DOT dictates whether 588 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,860 deceleration lanes are needed, how many egresses are required, 589 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,920 traffic light improvements, stop signs, 590 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,820 and that's going to be paid for by the developer unless he manages to negotiate otherwise. 591 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:42,900 Something else that wasn't mentioned or was mentioned briefly is, with regard, excuse 592 00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:48,220 me, with regard to concerns about infrastructure, is that this would be on sewer. 593 00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:55,520 But what wasn't highlighted is that there is a list station that's currently significantly 594 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:02,240 in poor condition or in degraded condition that the developer would be subsidizing the cost 595 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:10,600 of upgrading one in order to ensure it's not failing into creating additional capacity that would 596 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:17,580 allow connection throughout the commercial corridor that that lift station is in close proximity 597 00:47:17,580 --> 00:47:25,500 to. Lastly, just being familiar with the developer and the builder that intends to 598 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:43,740 be a part of creating a community there, there are a lot of folks who are coming into this market and not to name any of them but we've seen a few where they'll throw up the cheapest thing they can get away with and sell it for the highest price people can qualify for and 599 00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:49,580 The builder who's interested in being a part of Bill Nalthus community, right, we've seen 600 00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:51,000 waverly place. 601 00:47:51,580 --> 00:47:56,300 They're offering some of the highest quality homes in that price point that I'm seeing 602 00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:57,960 get built in this market. 603 00:47:58,780 --> 00:48:05,800 And I understand that folks are resistant to change, but this is one of the better sides 604 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,200 of change that we're going to see from folks who are trying to be a part of the communities 605 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,800 growth. 606 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,720 I don't have any additional marks. 607 00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:16,760 I appreciate you all the time. 608 00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:17,900 Thank you, Mr. Washington. 609 00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:18,980 Mr. Eden? 610 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680 Yes, last person is a Ricky Ward. 611 00:48:30,090 --> 00:48:31,330 About five minutes and nine. 612 00:48:32,770 --> 00:48:35,510 I appreciate being able to speak on behalf of Richland Heights again. 613 00:48:36,370 --> 00:48:38,630 I appreciate everybody's concerns and comments. 614 00:48:39,450 --> 00:48:40,470 I'm sorry I didn't explain this. 615 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:42,170 Maybe a little bit better to first go around. 616 00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:46,710 I also want to thank you for praying before we have a meeting. 617 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:47,730 That really means a lot. 618 00:48:47,730 --> 00:48:54,390 and I appreciate that. Again, we're not doing, we're not maximizing the density of what I can do by 619 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:59,170 right after talking to the public, county plan and department. We're actually scaling this thing very 620 00:48:59,170 --> 00:49:04,690 way back from what I could do by right versus what they suggested I do, which is R10 zoning. 621 00:49:06,010 --> 00:49:09,830 They've also asked me again, which has already been highlighted. If I would put sidewalks in, 622 00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:16,710 I'd reach that as well. This project is special to me because this is my hometown. This is where I 623 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:30,630 I remember when Officer Burns was the only cop in town, so I've been here in my whole entire life and I want to do something nice for my community, nice for on the county and for the city of Richlands where I grew up at. 624 00:49:31,710 --> 00:49:35,590 We're doing some single family starter homes, which I think is a great idea. 625 00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:44,430 A lot of these developers right now and I'm not kicking on these developers, but they're doing four to five hundred six hundred thousand dollar homes and people can't afford it. 626 00:49:44,430 --> 00:49:48,530 So our young military folks and our first time hung by our Z8 needs and we're to go and I think 627 00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:50,430 Richlands is a great place to grow up. 628 00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:53,390 I've already got my stormwater permit in hand. 629 00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:54,850 I'm not trying to get it. 630 00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:55,750 That's been identified. 631 00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:57,270 I have my roach control plan. 632 00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:59,870 The water is going to be contained on site. 633 00:50:02,220 --> 00:50:30,000 I think pretty much as far as permitting, as far as what I think we should do according to the plan and department. We're working together, trying to get this thing passed. I don't mind working with the city. I don't mind working with the county of Angelo, but every subdivision goes through the same counter or the deal. Your stormwater is one of the hardest permits to get. And we now achieve that. So what does that mean? That means that the stormwater division, North Carolina, has looked at this plan, the grading plan. 634 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:38,380 And recognize that we have met all their criteria to maximize where this water is going 635 00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:41,060 to go and ask them to infiltrate the ground, step permit is in hand. 636 00:50:42,780 --> 00:50:45,420 I've got like 25 notes, I'm not even reading of my paper, that's ridiculous. 637 00:50:47,260 --> 00:50:51,280 So that thing is check it off, again, the road is in control, check it off. 638 00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:56,960 We have our DOT permit by the end of this week, and I'm ready to go, so my hopes are that 639 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,380 We can kind of work together as a community, as a county, and get this thing done. 640 00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:04,940 Thank you so much. 641 00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:06,120 Thank you. 642 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,560 I think Mr. Ward was that industry, and I guess they're not real close to the public hearing 643 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,340 and bring this matter to the commissioners. 644 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:14,340 Motion to approve. 645 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:14,840 Thanks. 646 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,460 Second. 647 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:16,860 Motion and a second. 648 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:17,840 Any discussion? 649 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:18,480 Yes, sir. 650 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,040 I did. 651 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:19,720 Go ahead. 652 00:51:20,740 --> 00:51:24,420 I just wanted to thank Mr. Ward for working so much with our planning board. 653 00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:29,080 I mean, you went through a lot of hoops with this board of commissioners and putting all these 654 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:34,760 other particular sidewalks, a playgrounds, and this board of staying on premises which 655 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,620 is legal or whatever field, I guess whatever you're told to do, basically by the dinner, 656 00:51:40,820 --> 00:51:43,560 I guess, is the one that can basically do what they need to do. 657 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,300 But I want to thank you for all the what you've done and what you're trying to do for the 658 00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:50,740 community, and you've done a lot, and I want to thank you for that. 659 00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:59,990 I appreciate everyone's concern, you know, when I look at one of these controversial 660 00:51:59,990 --> 00:52:08,370 resumes, I have to look at the table of uses and think about what he could do with this 661 00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:15,030 property in the current zones, mobile homes, 662 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,860 complexes, multifamily, 663 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,980 there are a lot of 664 00:52:24,980 --> 00:52:36,180 He could take advantage of, I don't know, there are a whole lot worse than some nice houses. 665 00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:52,580 And like Mr. Buchanan just said, he's jumped through a lot of hoops to make sure that he has met all the conditions that the commissioners and the planning staff had a concern about. 666 00:52:54,580 --> 00:52:59,900 Mr. Washington was correct, they will, are negotiating with 667 00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:05,700 on Washington to upgrade the pump station, which will be a benefit for all of the community. 668 00:53:07,580 --> 00:53:14,480 So, I think that I am certainly in favor of this rezoning. 669 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,840 I mean, Dave's. 670 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,420 What did I do to you? 671 00:53:24,580 --> 00:53:32,100 Mr. Ward, I just want to confirm, so sidewalks, playground, or recreational space, 672 00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:36,400 and all the water's going to be contained on site. 673 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,000 Because those are the three criticals, because I have friends over in that area, 674 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:44,500 and I had to call one to date to say that I'm probably going to vote for this. 675 00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:50,600 And I explained to what to your point by right what you could do. 676 00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:58,770 And so I want to, as Paul said, thank you for going to extra mile to make it a very nice 677 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,960 development for your community. 678 00:54:01,660 --> 00:54:08,620 And I think the, and Brett correct me if I'm wrong, but the community, I want it. 679 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,320 We are not allowed to just stop development. 680 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,380 I can't look at Mr. Ward or we as a board can't look at Mr. Ward and say you can't develop your land. 681 00:54:19,220 --> 00:54:28,320 We do not have that right. I mean, so we're in a way stuck between a rock and a hard place. 682 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:37,140 But with Mr. Ward's willing to do for the community to make this palatable, I just think it's fantastic. 683 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,200 And I think we didn't understand on the last presentation a lot of what you were doing. 684 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:50,340 So thank you, and thank you for being willing to go through the extra hoops, and thank you for being willing to be a blessing to your hometown. 685 00:54:52,060 --> 00:54:52,640 Anyone else? 686 00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:56,780 I just want to say thank you so much for wanting to do the right thing. 687 00:54:57,380 --> 00:54:58,200 Thank you. 688 00:54:58,540 --> 00:54:59,060 Mr. Carter. 689 00:54:59,180 --> 00:54:59,960 Just to make it you. 690 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:27,100 Thank you for your patience with us. I don't think that we really took it all in the first time either, and I do appreciate your sharing that you're from here and that you want to give back. That means a lot to me. My favorite thing however that I just learned from you tonight was that you're going to put starter homes in there, and I do agree with you. There are a bunch of people in this community who could not afford a home otherwise, so I really do appreciate that so much. 691 00:55:27,940 --> 00:55:31,620 Mr. Metcalf, did you want to say something before I take this to the vote? 692 00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:33,900 Yes, sir. Thank you so much. 693 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,360 So the sixth condition that we had on the record was a requirement for infiltration basins. 694 00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:44,320 So learning from Mr. Award that he already has, a strong water permit issued by the Department of Environmental Quality, 695 00:55:44,740 --> 00:55:46,900 that will contain all sort of water on site. 696 00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:54,310 We'd like to revise that condition that simply a strong water permit from DEQ that it hears to that standard of all 697 00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:57,210 So RRB and I can taint on site. 698 00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:59,870 I didn't see the playground on there. 699 00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:01,890 Since you came up to the... 700 00:56:01,890 --> 00:56:02,950 It was in the presentation. 701 00:56:03,470 --> 00:56:04,030 It was in the presentation. 702 00:56:05,250 --> 00:56:07,330 We'll make sure that gets added to the site one. 703 00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:08,150 All right. Thank you. 704 00:56:08,290 --> 00:56:09,910 We expect to see Mr. Davis at the playground. 705 00:56:11,630 --> 00:56:12,450 I love it. 706 00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:12,970 Good to see you. 707 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:17,550 I'm just closing out with this before we vote. 708 00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:21,790 I mentioned last time that the current zoning is RA 709 00:56:21,790 --> 00:56:29,570 in our eight, which means whether this rezoning was approved or not, by right as this has been stated. 710 00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:39,170 Mr. Mr. Ward could go ahead and build R.A., build whatever he wanted to in there, R.A., a lot more 711 00:56:39,170 --> 00:56:46,110 of what he wanted to in there and now moving the whole area, the R.T.N., he's just and he's scaled it back. 712 00:56:46,190 --> 00:56:51,130 He's agreed to the conditional part of it and he's wanting to put in and I think the biggest point 713 00:56:51,130 --> 00:56:56,330 these folks have made is the starter homes is huge, that is huge because you are right. 714 00:56:56,890 --> 00:57:03,810 When you look at the re-evalves that have happened, you see there's a whole lot of $400,500,000 715 00:57:03,810 --> 00:57:10,570 homes here and not a lot of $200,250,000 homes that are here, so that's great that we're 716 00:57:10,570 --> 00:57:12,550 doing that and we people need homes. 717 00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:20,790 So with all that being said, we'll ask this to cast our votes now and all in favor of the 718 00:57:20,790 --> 00:57:25,010 Aye. Aye. Those opposed hearing none, motion carries. 719 00:57:27,690 --> 00:57:33,210 Move to item five, the Quarterly Commissioner Committee reports. 720 00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:36,830 Do we have any commissioners that have any reports tonight? 721 00:57:37,310 --> 00:57:40,210 And if we don't, that's okay, because we got a lot to go after this. 722 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:41,970 So anyone want to share? Aye. 723 00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:43,070 Those were the Corbiners ready. 724 00:57:43,450 --> 00:57:46,810 Always, always have to talk about the airport, because they're greatest asset. 725 00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:49,310 One of our greatest assets, Mitch is smiling back there. 726 00:57:49,310 --> 00:57:55,610 So we had our meeting last week and the biggest thing that I love to share about is the runway 727 00:57:55,610 --> 00:58:01,390 extension and highway 1-11 relocation project is steadily moving along and I think everyone 728 00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:06,070 will be excited to know this because it's going to bring larger planes into our airport here 729 00:58:06,490 --> 00:58:14,390 should be completed by spring of 2027 which is I think fast really fast. Now does I mean they're going to be 730 00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:25,750 The NCDOT ever sees the operation of when 11 and of course the FAA will say when it's okay to bless a plane coming in there. However, I just think that's fantastic. 731 00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:43,830 There's some really fun. We got to do a tour last week to see how it's all going to look or generally how it's going to look and I just think it's fantastic that we are going to have. 732 00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:52,690 They're really not cutting down as many trees out there as you might expect so it's just going to be a really beautiful and to a long project here. 733 00:58:53,070 --> 00:59:01,490 Fun facts, they are going to in this project move 160,000 cubic yards of total soil. 734 00:59:01,930 --> 00:59:11,770 They're going to add 1.43 miles of water and sewer lines and 9.2 miles of electrical cabling installed for the project too. 735 00:59:11,770 --> 00:59:14,070 So those are some huge numbers just to, 736 00:59:14,110 --> 00:59:16,390 well, not just to, but to add on to this runway. 737 00:59:17,470 --> 00:59:18,690 And I think it's fantastic. 738 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:21,590 The other thing I love about this airport 739 00:59:21,590 --> 00:59:23,170 that we have, which is so wonderful. 740 00:59:23,530 --> 00:59:26,570 Sandra, Sandra Johnson, who is kind of behind the scenes, 741 00:59:26,730 --> 00:59:27,970 which shows us a really great report 742 00:59:27,970 --> 00:59:29,130 about what's going on at the airport. 743 00:59:29,610 --> 00:59:30,850 And one of the things that she brought up 744 00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:33,030 at the meeting was the fact that we have, 745 00:59:33,350 --> 00:59:34,990 we're such a friendly airport 746 00:59:34,990 --> 00:59:36,670 that there's two different organizations, 747 00:59:37,070 --> 00:59:39,770 pause of war training and canines for service 748 00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:47,850 who are both going to be bringing their projects to OHJ to work on training dogs that we can use in service. 749 00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:51,850 And I think that's fantastic from other regional airports here, 750 00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:54,630 who are not quite as friendly as we are. So yay for us. 751 00:59:54,850 --> 00:59:57,270 Thank you, Albert J. Ellis, Airport and staff. 752 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:07,560 Thank you, Mr. Carpenter. I've got the talk about on washington. Always has water. 753 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:16,920 I'm always looking on the microphone. Yeah, on washington, tending to grow, we're over 60,000. 754 01:00:16,940 --> 01:00:24,320 Seven. That's not coming up. I don't think it here me here. They won't hit me on the TV, right? 755 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:29,700 But there were over 60,000, 7,7,9,2. 756 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:32,600 Come this way. 757 01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:37,600 Thank you. 758 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,680 All right, technical difficulties. 759 01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:50,080 So on Washington, then he's to grow with over 60,792 water customers over 15,000 sewer 760 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:58,760 customers. We have a 10-year capital plan and excess of $500 million and just real quick. 761 01:00:59,260 --> 01:01:07,840 The Highway 24 Pipeline Project has been completed. It's in the final testing stages and 762 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:15,840 should be operational very soon within a month. They tell me the base letter that we all 763 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:21,360 approved has been approved by almost all of our local governments and will be transmitted 764 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:29,220 to the base. This southeast wastewater treatment plant expansion is in process to serve 765 01:01:29,220 --> 01:01:37,400 the Holly Ridge and it needs ferry areas. The summer house wastewater treatment expansion 766 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:45,700 is completed and should be operational soon. It's a serve Holly Ridge. We're working on 767 01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:53,340 in Camp Davis Industrial Park and a state grant to build a water tower in Holly Ridge and the expansion 768 01:01:53,340 --> 01:02:01,540 of the Dixon Water Treatment Plant from 4 to 6 million gallons a day treatment capacity is 769 01:02:01,540 --> 01:02:08,340 in the process. So that's just a part of what's going on there on Wassa trying to keep up with 770 01:02:08,340 --> 01:02:15,100 wonderful growth that we have and we certainly don't want water and sewer to be a detriment 771 01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:16,120 to our growth. 772 01:02:19,950 --> 01:02:27,190 That is, yeah, the swans were a pipeline is expected to go online in the next 30 days 773 01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:34,410 as soon as all the testing is done and they'll actually be waste water flowing from swans 774 01:02:34,410 --> 01:02:38,730 were up to Petty Green, could you get the thing? 775 01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:40,210 Could you expound on the letter? 776 01:02:41,110 --> 01:02:41,710 On the letter? 777 01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:42,470 Yes. 778 01:02:43,210 --> 01:02:51,370 All of the municipalities except, I think, Jacksonville, and I just checked this morning, and 779 01:02:51,370 --> 01:02:55,430 the best I could tell, Jacksonville has not signed on. 780 01:02:55,630 --> 01:02:57,110 What's the purpose of the letter? 781 01:02:57,850 --> 01:02:58,610 Oh, I'm sorry. 782 01:02:58,610 --> 01:03:17,910 the purpose of the letter to the purpose of the letter is to get the three and a half million gallons per day of wastewater treatment to the Legion plant that was promised to us ten years ago or more. 783 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:26,390 It also asks for if we can't get that capacity for federal funding for a new wastewater 784 01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:29,710 treatment plant somewhere in the human area. 785 01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:39,030 Or also the approval of the pipeline from Sneeds Ferry to French Creek Dimmering Corps 786 01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:47,890 base that was approved years ago, and then rejected after that to get that re-applied 787 01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:52,110 proved, because we've already spent about $200,000 in 788 01:03:52,110 --> 01:03:55,710 engineering that pipeline before they pulled it out from 789 01:03:55,710 --> 01:03:56,470 under us. 790 01:03:56,470 --> 01:03:58,970 How much was the pipeline from Swan's Bird, 791 01:03:58,990 --> 01:03:59,810 Piny Green? 792 01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:04,110 Oh, that ran about $30, $35 million now, I think. 793 01:04:04,490 --> 01:04:06,510 I don't have the final numbers, but yeah. 794 01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:10,790 And we spent that money very specifically because we 795 01:04:10,790 --> 01:04:13,450 thought we would be able to have that, that's not treated 796 01:04:13,450 --> 01:04:16,290 on the base, so. 797 01:04:16,830 --> 01:04:17,830 Thank you for the questions. 798 01:04:18,710 --> 01:04:19,250 First, thank you. 799 01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:20,430 I just gave you more questions. 800 01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:24,470 I just will have the public be near what we're fighting for. 801 01:04:24,570 --> 01:04:24,710 Right. 802 01:04:24,830 --> 01:04:29,410 Because you, you are the head of that being the chairman and being a commissioner. 803 01:04:30,110 --> 01:04:36,150 You're fighting on our behalf to have a contract fulfilled that the base is not fulfilling. 804 01:04:36,690 --> 01:04:37,130 Absolutely. 805 01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:39,310 Do we thank you for your help? 806 01:04:40,590 --> 01:04:41,090 Any others? 807 01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:49,850 I'm sorry, I just want to say the Fisher Commission, we're still active moving forward. 808 01:04:50,890 --> 01:04:59,630 Our Chairman Bob Woodard will be in Raleigh, Thursday and Friday, fight for our rights to fish, continue to fish for our community. 809 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,500 And we'll meet again next month, back in Mori. It's just that everyone that we're fighting hard 810 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:14,860 with can to be able to protect the industry. It's been here long, long, long. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 811 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,220 Thanks, Chairman. Mr. Davis? 812 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:23,260 Yeah, and I just want to, on the level, Morgan Hospital Board, just make sure if you haven't heard 813 01:05:23,260 --> 01:05:27,320 that the partnership with UNC Chapel Hill is in place. 814 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,360 It's a three-phase process. 815 01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:32,820 So we look forward to that growth and that relationship 816 01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:34,040 with Chapel Hill. 817 01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:37,800 Brett, please stop me if I start to go off on something confidential. 818 01:05:37,820 --> 01:05:39,240 I think I'm good here. 819 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,980 But I'm excited and we're excited to see Chapel Hill medicine. 820 01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:48,980 UNC medicine being a part of our community hospital 821 01:05:49,540 --> 01:05:53,220 and with a long-term vision of it being a UNC hospital. 822 01:05:53,220 --> 01:06:01,420 So that's exciting opportunity for Oslo County and thankful for this board that worked hard 823 01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:05,080 to make that happen as well as Oslo Hospital Board. 824 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,640 Thank you. 825 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,080 Thank you, Mr. Davis. 826 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:15,640 Sit there with the Beach Inlet Sound Committee with Mayor Grant. 827 01:06:16,060 --> 01:06:20,280 A lot of work going on down on North Opsville Beach and down in Surf City as well. 828 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:28,900 because we serve city side to big contract today, historical, the take care of our hour, 11 and 829 01:06:28,900 --> 01:06:36,720 half miles of beach and then there's the other 14 miles or 15 miles there of top so 830 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:36,960 island. 831 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,600 Then we know how important that is to two onslaught counties. 832 01:06:40,180 --> 01:06:45,980 We consider that onslaught counties beach and we are appreciating the work we're doing with 833 01:06:45,980 --> 01:06:49,960 Northopso Beach town, Alderman, and their mayor. 834 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,240 Also worked down on the Topso Island shoreline protection. 835 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,660 Doing a lot of work on the oyster leases that are going on, that seems to all come to 836 01:06:59,660 --> 01:07:02,700 onslow and Pender County because we're the only ones without a moratorium. 837 01:07:03,620 --> 01:07:09,340 We believe everyone should be able to go out and get their oysters, but we don't think everybody 838 01:07:09,340 --> 01:07:12,540 in the Eastern North Carolina should come to our waterways. 839 01:07:12,540 --> 01:07:16,760 We need to share the, share the oyster love throughout Eastern North Carolina. 840 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:26,440 Now there is, we meet quarterly county manager myself along with the municipal mayors 841 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,580 and their city managers or town managers. 842 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:32,580 And we are have extended the invitation. 843 01:07:33,260 --> 01:07:38,980 We also have the on loss of chairman and the CEO of on loss of joins us as well. 844 01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:44,760 and we have extended the invitation to the superintendent and the Chairman of the Board of Education 845 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,700 to join us in those conversations and discussions as well because all of those entities 846 01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:54,640 are so integral to the success of onslaught counting on to bring everybody to that table 847 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,980 as we continue to work and address the needs of onslaught counting as a whole. 848 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:04,560 So with that being said, I would say we're going to move into item 6 to quarterly financial 849 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:10,640 report, but I've had a request for about a eight-minute recess or break and we'll be 850 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,200 backing about eight minutes and I just chose eight minutes because it sounds good. 851 01:18:20,530 --> 01:18:27,230 Resume the commissioners meeting for this evening and we'll move to item 6 and our chief finance officer, Mr. 852 01:18:27,370 --> 01:18:41,030 Kevin Patterson will provide the board with a brief presentation on our quarterly financial report and it says, brief in the agenda here, so the entire 97 slide deck. 853 01:18:49,890 --> 01:18:51,510 I'm not sure where my slides are. 854 01:18:58,170 --> 01:19:01,710 Well, I'll go with the slide because you do have access to them. 855 01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:08,490 I'll get to it in a second. 856 01:19:10,230 --> 01:19:14,990 But with these, we did prepare the numbers for the June 30th, 857 01:19:15,130 --> 01:19:16,550 but they are as of. 858 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,520 They are as of August 5th. 859 01:19:22,620 --> 01:19:27,620 So we do have a councilabler still open for a cruel 860 01:19:27,620 --> 01:19:29,220 through the end of August. 861 01:19:29,220 --> 01:19:37,560 most of those are already in. We do have sales tax revenues that are not in yet. 862 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:44,300 We will receive the, we will receive notification. Actually, we just received, we 863 01:19:44,300 --> 01:19:48,700 should have received notification on how much sales tax will receive in this month 864 01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:55,400 this week. But we still have August and September sales tax to a crew as well. 865 01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:59,960 So, with that, 866 01:20:00,270 --> 01:20:20,450 Had the only modified cash basis in the general fund, we have brought in $331 million, we have $348 million of expenditures on a $408 million total budget. 867 01:20:20,450 --> 01:20:23,730 That is a negative by $16 million. 868 01:20:24,090 --> 01:20:31,610 We do expect to accrue approximately $13 million in sales taxes that are not that we have 869 01:20:31,610 --> 01:20:34,930 not received yet that that will be in August and September. 870 01:20:35,950 --> 01:20:41,310 We also have transfers that we have not made because we are waiting for the final accruals 871 01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:42,510 for payables. 872 01:20:43,230 --> 01:20:50,330 So, as I said, backering workshops, we will use fund balance right now. 873 01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:57,790 Our appropriated fund balance is in excess of $20 million, but we will reuse fund balance 874 01:20:57,790 --> 01:20:59,030 and under $5 million. 875 01:21:00,130 --> 01:21:02,570 But again, this is part of a multi-year strategy. 876 01:21:02,930 --> 01:21:08,370 So next year, we should be adopting a budget that would add two fund balance. 877 01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:16,730 this year, the 27 fiscal year isn't anomaly, but next year we will back into a four-year pattern. 878 01:21:22,450 --> 01:21:26,910 And again, just short-pointing these in numbers, we are showing that water actual utilization 879 01:21:26,910 --> 01:21:35,810 is as far as revenues. You will see our finance, our tax revenue is not quite where it was, 880 01:21:35,870 --> 01:21:42,310 because that is sales tax that will get them not accrued. Right now we will be within a million 881 01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:48,250 of our budgeted sales tax depending on where those final numbers come in, which will be actually 882 01:21:48,250 --> 01:21:54,750 putting us on par with where we were last year. Our financing sources, we have a significant 883 01:21:54,750 --> 01:22:00,710 increase in budget over actual financing sources. A lot of that came with the refinancing that we did 884 01:22:00,710 --> 01:22:10,030 this past year because we refinanced and existing bond, which really shows up as a budgetary item 885 01:22:10,030 --> 01:22:16,010 only because that is an income that is a transfer end and that transfer out which we never 886 01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:23,690 receive. So it is not an actual, it is a financial transaction but it is not a cash transaction. 887 01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:30,270 So that shows up only on a full approval method. So that's the big reason for the major difference 888 01:22:30,270 --> 01:22:37,130 in the financial services sources. Again, also looking at our property taxes that you can 889 01:22:37,130 --> 01:22:43,230 we did exceed our budget collections, where property tax collections increased by $5 million 890 01:22:43,230 --> 01:22:52,310 over 2025, and we did budget $155 million in revenues and collected 148 million. 891 01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:57,750 And again, we are right at an $86 million budget. 892 01:22:58,210 --> 01:23:02,330 We will be probably around $85 million in total collections. 893 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,760 And again, just following that demographic, we are still going, 894 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:16,540 We are probably on past from marking very close proximity to where we were last year. 895 01:23:16,740 --> 01:23:23,500 The tax revenue and some of that is probably more built to changes in the tonal economy. 896 01:23:26,850 --> 01:23:32,890 And again, just showing in where the category by functions and where most of our money goes. 897 01:23:33,290 --> 01:23:38,410 Of course, the largest single area is, of course, education followed by public safety. 898 01:23:43,170 --> 01:23:51,550 And with that, when you look at functional codes, 81% of our total budget goes to education, 899 01:23:52,330 --> 01:23:54,610 followed by public safety and human services. 900 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,140 Looking at solid waste, of course, again, these numbers are as of 825. 901 01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,780 These also do not have the accruals in here. 902 01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:12,700 This is still in a modified cash basis. 903 01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:19,960 But we will have depreciation and post-closure calls to be accrued into this so that $3.4 million. 904 01:24:21,220 --> 01:24:25,380 Current positive operation is going to drop significantly. 905 01:24:26,780 --> 01:24:29,700 But the operations are showing a very positive trend. 906 01:24:31,980 --> 01:24:36,840 The airport, the current numbers actually do put them in an operational deficit, 907 01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:40,160 but then again, that is because we have not made the accruals. 908 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:47,820 They have a large amount of grant dollars that we have received, but they show us, unhurned. 909 01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:50,260 We have not the book, those has earned revenues. 910 01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:56,980 So we do expect this to be pushed back to a neutral position in the water, as it was 911 01:24:56,980 --> 01:24:57,660 last year. 912 01:24:58,140 --> 01:24:59,600 So it is a matter that they're poor. 913 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:05,240 Without support from the general fund or property taxes. 914 01:25:10,370 --> 01:25:14,510 For the grant report, of course the county has accepted 915 01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:28,450 $11 million in total grand funding through fiscal year to $26. Right now we have just in the 916 01:25:28,450 --> 01:25:34,070 of grants for solid-way shares airport. 917 01:25:35,050 --> 01:25:39,670 We do have five grants that are still outstanding for $25 million. 918 01:25:40,990 --> 01:25:45,630 One of those is primarily for public safety. 919 01:25:45,850 --> 01:25:50,750 It is for a new M.S. nation and back at 911 Center. 920 01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:55,350 This is an extremely competitive grant 921 01:25:55,350 --> 01:26:02,350 And this will most likely be our first of multiple applications for this current process. 922 01:26:04,850 --> 01:26:20,650 Also, the one thing that is that I do want to brag about a little bit for the county is that we did actually close out Hurricane Francis and Hurricane Matthew's FEMA reports. 923 01:26:20,650 --> 01:26:27,210 Yeah, and that was only that was $73,000 that we were finally 924 01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:33,070 able to get close-out with FEMA on in under a decade, nine years. 925 01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:36,130 Have any questions? 926 01:26:41,490 --> 01:26:45,330 No questions, but we'll let you stick around. 927 01:26:46,030 --> 01:26:46,030 Okay, 928 01:26:48,250 --> 01:26:53,810 the next item, and does not have the slides to it, is the budget amendments. 929 01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:59,010 You have two budget amendments before you tonight, budget amendment nine and ten. 930 01:26:59,010 --> 01:27:21,030 The first nine is for this is the dead service payment for a half moon, they were not, we did not give them the money of last year because they did not have, they did not sign their contract, they have signed both an extension and a full years contract. 931 01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:30,150 So this first amendment budget, amendment 9, budget amendment 9 would be for $57,272, 932 01:27:30,370 --> 01:27:40,990 which is the debt service for the 26 fiscal year for a debt payment for a fire truck 933 01:27:40,990 --> 01:27:41,910 that they have. 934 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:49,800 The second budget amendment budget amendment 10 is for a tiny green and this is similar 935 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:56,980 situation. We do have a signed one year contract with Pliny Green. So we're requesting the 936 01:27:56,980 --> 01:28:03,820 carry forward a 304,615 dollars for the debt service payment on their new fire station, 937 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:10,820 as well as for a fire truck. These are just for debt service payments. These do not all set 938 01:28:10,820 --> 01:28:15,960 any operational costs that may or may not have been covered under the temporary funding from 939 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,380 here. 940 01:28:18,740 --> 01:28:21,320 So we request the board approve those budget amendments. 941 01:28:25,050 --> 01:28:27,050 Motion in a second. Any discussion? 942 01:28:28,030 --> 01:28:35,050 Yes, since I didn't get the motion in a second, I was too slow, but I do want to defend this board. 943 01:28:38,350 --> 01:28:44,930 This debt service payments, this board had originally requested that those be made and 944 01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:53,630 And personnel that are no longer here made some unilateral decisions that that didn't happen. 945 01:28:54,150 --> 01:28:56,550 So this board made sure that that was rectified. 946 01:28:57,290 --> 01:29:03,830 And I also want to thank all the fire departments and Brett and Paul. 947 01:29:03,850 --> 01:29:11,970 And I'm probably leaving out Lisa and Tony for their hard work and Tom just amount of time. 948 01:29:12,670 --> 01:29:17,530 It's probably not, it can't be counted how much many hours help it in to work with the fire departments. 949 01:29:18,570 --> 01:29:26,130 And so I want to say thank you to this board for going that extra mile to make sure all this worked out and got the water smooth. 950 01:29:26,750 --> 01:29:31,350 And we have complete fire service to this county and the fire departments are all working. 951 01:29:31,550 --> 01:29:38,210 And I think if I remember right, they're all going to get more money than was originally even expected by any of this. 952 01:29:38,750 --> 01:29:45,250 because of the formulas that which would be complimented back to you, Kevin, where are you in? 953 01:29:45,550 --> 01:29:46,190 I would remember. 954 01:29:46,490 --> 01:29:46,810 Thank you. 955 01:29:47,330 --> 01:29:48,350 Bradley, thank you. 956 01:29:49,170 --> 01:29:55,790 So anyway, I just wanted to put some praise out to this board and to the staff for making it a very difficult situation. 957 01:29:56,090 --> 01:29:59,090 Really come together and I think everybody was pleased on both sides. 958 01:30:00,140 --> 01:30:21,500 Well, John, one other add to that, too, Kevin, is that we thought there was three million dollars, and now we found out we got six million dollars sitting there, that we can take care of our talking about apparatus and engines, and all we found out out here recently. We thought there was three, but there was still three, from last year that was being put aside. Correct, Kevin? Thank you, sir. 959 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,940 That's good news that we need to vote of that. 960 01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:30,940 Yeah, we got the vote and it's always good because when they call 911 and the house is on fire, 961 01:30:31,060 --> 01:30:35,780 you want somebody there and we are sure that the volunteer of fireman and women of uns 962 01:30:35,780 --> 01:30:38,420 like County are adequately funded to take care of the citizens. 963 01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:41,660 So with that being said, all in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. 964 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:48,440 I was opposed hearing none, motion carries, Mr. Patterson, the keep on keeping on. 965 01:30:48,860 --> 01:30:52,480 The next item has changed order number one for the Bear Creek Fire Station. 966 01:30:53,440 --> 01:31:01,100 These are changes due to inflationary costs of the delay from last. 967 01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:07,480 From when the contract was executed to when we finally got clearance through the EQ, 968 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,760 and we're able to get a notice to proceed on the project. 969 01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:15,300 Also, a large part of these go back to A vendor. 970 01:31:15,300 --> 01:31:23,140 But this was not that vendors change order, but these are issues that are changed significantly 971 01:31:23,140 --> 01:31:31,600 because of adjustments had to be made to the ground, the erosion control plans and the discharge 972 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:40,440 permits through DEQ as well as there is an additional paving the DOT has upgrading what the intersection 973 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:46,740 that we would originally been able to tap onto the line and patch, now since they have upgraded 974 01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:52,840 that intersection, we would have to tap onto the line and then repave the intersection itself. 975 01:31:54,280 --> 01:32:01,080 So we would request that the approval of the change order. We are also currently working on 976 01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:06,720 change order number two, which is going to be a credit backed off, so a reduction in the price. 977 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:17,780 And these are modifications led by a county, and that will offset or that will also significantly 978 01:32:17,780 --> 01:32:19,860 if not all of these costs. 979 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,160 So moved. 980 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:21,620 Second. 981 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:23,180 Motion in a second. 982 01:32:23,420 --> 01:32:23,880 Any discussion? 983 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:24,760 Yeah. 984 01:32:24,900 --> 01:32:31,460 I wanted to preach out to Janelle Aaron and to staff for, because this was a nightmare to start 985 01:32:31,460 --> 01:32:32,280 with. 986 01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,120 We didn't know the commissars were brought up to speed. 987 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,640 I don't know months ago when there was problems with this project. 988 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:43,100 And we had no idea what was wrong with the project until the Janellan staff and the attorney 989 01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:47,480 all got involved and we got it squared away and now we're moving forward. 990 01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:52,020 I want to thank you, Janellan, and staff and Britt for getting on that thing pretty tight 991 01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:55,300 because it was kind of a mess there for a while. 992 01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:55,900 Thank you. 993 01:32:57,660 --> 01:32:58,640 Any other discussion? 994 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,600 Hearing none all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 995 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:02,960 Aye. 996 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:03,920 Those opposed. 997 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:04,840 Hearing none. 998 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:05,960 Motion carries. 999 01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:07,000 Strasson. 1000 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,900 The next item is the project ordinance for the EMS construction. 1001 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:20,580 These would be the construction for the EMS stations at Homslow Pines and Midway Park. 1002 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,080 We had last meeting. 1003 01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,380 You did approve the contract. 1004 01:33:26,380 --> 01:33:38,560 to design the projects, to design these stations, this would be to actually allow us to move forward with the ultimately the construction. 1005 01:33:39,480 --> 01:33:47,000 Before any of that happens, the construction contract will come back to the board with a maximum price guarantee. 1006 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:52,000 We are also working on a third sign, which is we are working in the 1007 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,740 State's area with on wassa, they have actually identified another 1008 01:33:55,740 --> 01:34:00,640 piece of property that is not a there, a treatment facility, which we think 1009 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:05,680 may be a better location and we will do, we are going to do the 1010 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:11,060 environmental on that property to make sure it is amenable. Once that 1011 01:34:11,060 --> 01:34:16,680 site has determined we would go back and bring another amendment to this 1012 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,180 that's allowing for that third station. 1013 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,640 It will be the same design for each of the three stations. 1014 01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:26,500 The only difference will be the civil engineering 1015 01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:32,620 and the actual location of the property itself. 1016 01:34:37,070 --> 01:34:40,610 Motion to approve second motion in a second. 1017 01:34:40,990 --> 01:34:41,670 Any discussion? 1018 01:34:43,090 --> 01:34:45,870 Hearing none all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. 1019 01:34:46,370 --> 01:34:46,610 Aye. Aye. 1020 01:34:46,710 --> 01:34:48,490 Those opposed. Hearing none. 1021 01:34:48,850 --> 01:34:49,670 Motion carries. 1022 01:34:50,830 --> 01:34:57,410 The last project ordnance is for the Southern Elementary School as would be an elementary school that will be built in knowledge. 1023 01:34:58,030 --> 01:34:59,970 Harriet, property has been it. 1024 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,920 Identified in his own negotiations, which have been extremely complicated, but we do believe that they are coming to an end with a positive outcome. 1025 01:35:12,700 --> 01:35:19,860 This project ordinance would allow for the construction of a new elementary school for $49 million, $18,000. 1026 01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:48,660 the goal hit this project is to go out to bid in early or in late winter, January, so we can start and it was brought out that it would to go out to bid so we can issue a contract by April of 27, so it would be available for the August 29 school year. 1027 01:35:48,660 --> 01:35:55,840 My fingers were overly optimistic when typing it, because it is a two year construction window for schools. 1028 01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:02,380 But this object would allow us the ability to move forward with that project. 1029 01:36:02,900 --> 01:36:09,080 As we get closer, I've already worked with our pond attorney that we will be drafting a refunding resolution. 1030 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,380 So we will bring a free funding resolution back to the board. 1031 01:36:15,180 --> 01:36:28,210 By the time the final contract is for the purchase of the land is required for quest approval of the project ordinance for the schools. 1032 01:36:28,410 --> 01:36:31,670 So my second motion in a second, any discussion? 1033 01:36:32,290 --> 01:36:34,270 Yeah, I got some. 1034 01:36:34,790 --> 01:36:39,130 Before I had the workshop today, I was going to vote against this. 1035 01:36:39,170 --> 01:36:43,710 And I have a lot of questions and you answered my questions when we came in at a workshop. 1036 01:36:44,610 --> 01:36:58,890 I won't go in any of those, because I still have a little bit of concern being that I sat in some meetings back in 2025, but I'm going to go ahead and vote for this, and I just hope it all comes to fruition, because I have some concerns. 1037 01:37:00,190 --> 01:37:05,050 I just want the board to know then, but I'm going ahead and we'll vote for it today. 1038 01:37:05,330 --> 01:37:08,810 But earlier, if you had an answer to my question, that would have voted for it. 1039 01:37:10,570 --> 01:37:19,150 I'm going to agree with Paul, I have reservations and more of how it all happened, but I think 1040 01:37:19,150 --> 01:37:20,970 it's the right thing to do to move forward. 1041 01:37:21,670 --> 01:37:28,650 My other request would be, I think last year and it was maybe about this time, we had done 1042 01:37:28,650 --> 01:37:35,030 a plan of what the school system was looking to build and when I think it would be appropriate 1043 01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:39,890 to see that again, because I think we're definitely getting some public concern about how 1044 01:37:39,890 --> 01:37:46,170 that were moving forward in building schools and getting that done in meeting capacity. 1045 01:37:47,070 --> 01:37:50,890 So that would be my request is that we get that scheduled again as well. 1046 01:37:51,750 --> 01:37:53,010 Great. Thank you, John. 1047 01:37:54,110 --> 01:37:55,330 Any other discussion? 1048 01:37:56,890 --> 01:37:59,870 Hearing none all in favor of the motion signal five by saying aye. 1049 01:38:00,090 --> 01:38:02,990 I suppose hearing none motion carries. 1050 01:38:03,530 --> 01:38:04,750 I hope that was quick enough. 1051 01:38:05,050 --> 01:38:05,710 Thank you Mr. Bass. 1052 01:38:07,670 --> 01:38:11,910 Now Mr. Sprunger is going to come up and he's going to stay up here for a few minutes 1053 01:38:11,910 --> 01:38:12,370 with us. 1054 01:38:12,430 --> 01:38:17,210 So he's got quite a few and catch your breath and take off there. 1055 01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:19,270 Try to make it as quick as possible. 1056 01:38:19,410 --> 01:38:21,310 I mean, we could actually give him grief for what? 1057 01:38:21,490 --> 01:38:22,710 See, he was an easy and the negative. 1058 01:38:22,850 --> 01:38:24,850 We never get to give mid-Street for nothing. 1059 01:38:26,050 --> 01:38:26,410 Nice. 1060 01:38:27,670 --> 01:38:31,830 First item for your consideration is the A-Rink lease. 1061 01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:38,450 What this is, it's an inflight communication system that the airlines use out of OHA. 1062 01:38:40,090 --> 01:38:41,970 It's a computer and the IT clause. 1063 01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:45,730 It's an executive terminal with a small antenna in the roof. 1064 01:38:46,210 --> 01:38:48,090 It's been out there for the last two decades. 1065 01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:53,350 Both airlines use it, and it's just a simple five year lease for no one. 1066 01:38:54,010 --> 01:38:58,330 So it is respectfully requested that the Board of Commissioners approved the five year lease agreement 1067 01:38:58,330 --> 01:39:03,370 and authorize the chairman to execute the A-Rain Police Agreement on behalf of the county. 1068 01:39:04,090 --> 01:39:04,490 Sounded. 1069 01:39:04,810 --> 01:39:04,970 Sounded. 1070 01:39:04,970 --> 01:39:05,250 Okay. 1071 01:39:05,650 --> 01:39:06,730 Motioned in a second. 1072 01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:07,690 Any discussion? 1073 01:39:09,010 --> 01:39:11,770 Hearing none at all in favor of the motion of signify by saying aye. 1074 01:39:12,350 --> 01:39:13,150 Those opposed. 1075 01:39:13,650 --> 01:39:13,950 Hearing none. 1076 01:39:14,170 --> 01:39:14,670 Motion carries. 1077 01:39:15,530 --> 01:39:15,990 All right. 1078 01:39:16,230 --> 01:39:19,610 The next is for the snow removal equipment facility. 1079 01:39:20,590 --> 01:39:25,170 This is a deductive change order for the project. 1080 01:39:25,170 --> 01:39:26,550 It is now completed. 1081 01:39:27,890 --> 01:39:34,850 We had owners contingency for the project that was over $100,000, which we did not have to use. 1082 01:39:35,670 --> 01:39:37,950 So we're looking to reconcile that. 1083 01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:42,870 That was with NCAIP state grant dollars. 1084 01:39:44,210 --> 01:39:50,870 So we're going to bring it back in and hopefully use it for the entry road design in the parking lot that's coming up. 1085 01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:55,910 So, with that, it is respectfully requested that the Board of Commissioners approved the Bobbit Construction 1086 01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:59,970 to deduct a change order of 9 in the amount of 125,000. 1087 01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:07,220 277 dollars in 11 cents, and authorize the chairman to sign the change order, none, on behalf of the county. 1088 01:40:08,020 --> 01:40:18,560 Second, motion in a second, any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, sign the five bus, aye, nay, aye, those opposed. Hearing none, motion carries. 1089 01:40:20,060 --> 01:40:22,020 Next two items are related. 1090 01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:34,340 This is for the airport entrance road that leads to describe for the phase three design of that road for our airport runway expansion project. 1091 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:41,420 So phase one is the runway extension phase two highway relocation and this will be for the entry road design. 1092 01:40:41,420 --> 01:40:49,360 So, full design documents, erosion control permits, storm water permitting, as well as bidding. 1093 01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:54,040 And then there are some countries, excuse me, construction components for this. 1094 01:40:54,440 --> 01:41:02,800 It's also going to include the monument sign, the intersection of the highway and the entry road. 1095 01:41:04,460 --> 01:41:12,980 There's a building out there right now that needs to be removed the entry road and also some site grading for the entry road itself. 1096 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:19,680 And the other thing in notes, the runaway and highway that was primarily funded by state funds. 1097 01:41:20,340 --> 01:41:27,200 This will be with federal grand dollars for this project, which I'll bring that to the next Board of Commissioners meeting. 1098 01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:33,060 So with that it's respectfully requested that the board commissioners approve the airport entrance 1099 01:41:33,060 --> 01:41:38,080 road project ordinance and authorize the chairman to sign the necessary documents on behalf of the county. 1100 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:45,920 Second motion in the second and you discussion here you know and all in favor of the motion signify by saying aye aye and 1101 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:56,360 those opposed hearing none motion carries and the last piece is task order number five with RS and age so this is the task order that will 1102 01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:00,060 design that entry roadway for us. 1103 01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,940 We have a five-year contract in place with ours in 1104 01:42:02,940 --> 01:42:05,640 H. We're on your four-year contract. 1105 01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,860 So they've designed the runway in the highway and now 1106 01:42:08,860 --> 01:42:10,500 they're doing this. 1107 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,080 Think of notes for this price point. 1108 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:17,260 You have to do an independent fee review. 1109 01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,180 Converments a good value on the project. 1110 01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:22,640 And it wasn't that confirmed. 1111 01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:26,200 So with that, it is respectfully requested 1112 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,140 at the Board of Commissioners to prove the R.S. and age. 1113 01:42:29,340 --> 01:42:33,980 That's where to number five in the amount of $413,229. 1114 01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:37,120 And all the rest of the chairman to sign the necessary documents 1115 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:38,180 on behalf of the county. 1116 01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:39,100 Tell them. 1117 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,360 Sorry, I can motion that a second. 1118 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:42,640 I need a discussion. 1119 01:42:43,860 --> 01:42:46,480 Hearing none all of the favor, the motion to speak of Papa Say and I. 1120 01:42:46,580 --> 01:42:47,980 Hi, I'm both opposed. 1121 01:42:48,700 --> 01:42:50,260 Hearing none, motion carries. 1122 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:51,540 Thank you. 1123 01:42:51,540 --> 01:42:52,140 Thank you, sir. 1124 01:42:52,860 --> 01:42:54,420 Catch you, breath, and we'll let Bradley 1125 01:42:54,420 --> 01:43:01,160 I can't at all come up for the next two and we don't have as many for him so he won't be as tired as Kevin and Mitch 1126 01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,600 Or like a motion, then we'll just do it all right here 1127 01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:11,420 But even we'll start with I don't 1128 01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:20,000 K3 Community College I've written before you tonight educational affiliation agreement between us 1129 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,400 our U.S. system in the Capeford Community College. 1130 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:26,520 I tend your agreement that allows their students to write on our trucks to get their 1131 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:31,480 clinical time to finish their medical programs, paramedic program, or basic program. 1132 01:43:32,540 --> 01:43:39,700 We do this with all the colleges around us for the most part, and it's just time for this 1133 01:43:39,700 --> 01:43:43,240 to be renewed, no financial strings attached to it. 1134 01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:52,220 I respectfully request that you prove this educational affiliation agreement between the county, 1135 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:57,160 EMS system and the Cape for Community College and authorize the Chairman to sign the necessary documents 1136 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,820 by health accounting. 1137 01:43:58,200 --> 01:43:59,000 So a second. 1138 01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:00,500 Motion and a second. 1139 01:44:01,140 --> 01:44:01,640 Any discussion? 1140 01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:03,600 Three health. 1141 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:04,440 Go ahead, sir. 1142 01:44:05,180 --> 01:44:06,280 Three health. 1143 01:44:08,230 --> 01:44:09,010 They do. 1144 01:44:09,330 --> 01:44:09,790 Yes, sir. 1145 01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:13,110 They get on our truck and they do procedures and we train. 1146 01:44:13,110 --> 01:44:18,110 You know, help finish their training, and they do provide me a power and assistance when they did. 1147 01:44:19,390 --> 01:44:26,250 What's the retention recruiting retention when we have students writing with us? 1148 01:44:26,330 --> 01:44:31,510 Wonderful. And it's positive. It gives us the, the amount of chance to see our system in and out. 1149 01:44:31,630 --> 01:44:37,050 So there's no surprises if they do want to join us full time and just create opportunity to get people in. 1150 01:44:37,710 --> 01:44:42,990 So the more trucks we get on the road, the more availability we have, the more slots we have available on each year for these students. 1151 01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:47,830 all these areas to come in. So we've just been just been a great recruitment program 1152 01:44:47,830 --> 01:44:49,230 so far. 1153 01:44:49,410 --> 01:44:50,870 Thank you. That was pain. 1154 01:44:52,110 --> 01:44:55,510 The further discussion, all in favor of the motion signal file, I'll say hi. 1155 01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:55,910 Hi. 1156 01:44:56,270 --> 01:44:58,070 Those opposed hearing none. 1157 01:44:58,570 --> 01:44:59,070 Motion carries. 1158 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,160 Secondly, out of jay, I bring before you tonight a reciprocal reach light agreement with Kenna EMS and Western Carterett, Farney EMS, Chief Kane and their chief has spent a lot of time over the last couple months, refining a very old agreement, most of which was verbal, into something substantial. We made a lot of improvements in this version listed in this agreement are the type of calls that we both agreed we will help each other. 1159 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:35,880 the more serious calls with the option of reaching out and asking for additional calls 1160 01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:41,560 that are not on the list but they would not take a high priority. They did a 1161 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:45,460 degree to expand their coverage in non-Slow County. I think all the way up to 1162 01:45:45,460 --> 01:45:52,480 I was 172. So we're very thankful for that and we reciprocated that and I'm 1163 01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:55,920 not sure where that boundary is in Carter yet but we try to make it a very 1164 01:45:55,920 --> 01:46:00,540 fair agreement or that you used to do it when they were negotiating, and very, very proud 1165 01:46:00,540 --> 01:46:06,640 of this and the work they've done to formalize our partnership and help each other out 1166 01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,220 in a more professional and organized way. 1167 01:46:13,380 --> 01:46:18,900 Now, I ask, excuse me, it's required, I respectfully request the board to approve the 1168 01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:22,900 reciprocal future letter agreement between Hothlick and EMS and Wichita Carter at Firon EMS 1169 01:46:22,900 --> 01:46:25,720 and authorize the chairman to sign on the necessary documents on my off the county. 1170 01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,460 to the second motion in a second. 1171 01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:29,580 Any discussion? 1172 01:46:30,580 --> 01:46:31,900 Hearing none, all in favor of the motion, 1173 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,700 second to five, I'll say, and aye, aye. 1174 01:46:34,020 --> 01:46:34,780 Those opposed. 1175 01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:36,900 Hearing none, motion carries. 1176 01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:37,840 Thank you very much. 1177 01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:39,600 I'll appreciate it. 1178 01:46:39,620 --> 01:46:43,880 We'll move right to item TN Manager comments, Mr. Eaton. 1179 01:46:44,140 --> 01:46:49,320 Yes, I'll be brief, but I would like to express my appreciation 1180 01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,980 to the volunteer fire department as well. 1181 01:46:51,980 --> 01:47:00,080 the chiefs that came together, provided feedback, very open and honest, a great dialogue, 1182 01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:06,200 specifically I'd like to highlight Chief Ricky Hardison, Chief J.R. Marks and Chief 1183 01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:13,060 Joe Williams. They welcome me into their stations, sat with them, heard from them during 1184 01:47:13,060 --> 01:47:18,700 this process and really look forward to some more great dialogue moving throughout the 1185 01:47:18,700 --> 01:47:25,800 year as we meet much more regularly and all of us have the desire for better communication 1186 01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:30,200 is where we want to start and so I'm really excited about where things are and moving 1187 01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:30,840 forward. 1188 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:36,280 I want to thank those guys as well as all the chiefs and then also obviously Bradley, 1189 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:42,320 Janelle, the Cicacone Manager and Kevin Patterson and Chief Financial Officer all the work 1190 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:43,200 that they've done. 1191 01:47:43,980 --> 01:47:50,820 Lastly, August 28, 10 a.m. is the flag raising ceremony honoring the 50th anniversary of 1192 01:47:50,820 --> 01:47:55,540 onset of Pines Park and Parks and Recreation Apartments, certainly welcome every that 1193 01:47:55,540 --> 01:47:57,180 to come out and celebrate with us. 1194 01:47:57,460 --> 01:47:58,360 Thank you. 1195 01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,300 Thanks, Mr. Eden. 1196 01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:00,600 We'll start. 1197 01:48:00,940 --> 01:48:02,540 Mr. Page, you want to start us tonight? 1198 01:48:02,740 --> 01:48:04,180 We'll work our way to the other end. 1199 01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:05,260 I'll be brief. 1200 01:48:05,620 --> 01:48:05,880 Yes, sir. 1201 01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:06,580 We're all for coming. 1202 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:07,620 Have a good night. 1203 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:10,160 Mr. Dave? 1204 01:48:10,340 --> 01:48:10,780 Just be that. 1205 01:48:10,780 --> 01:48:12,980 And I don't know that I'm going to be that in the night. 1206 01:48:14,180 --> 01:48:18,340 I believe that in greatly of Rome, Steve, it's Mr. Hart that spoke earlier, 1207 01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:19,880 H.A.R.T. is that correct? 1208 01:48:20,940 --> 01:48:25,720 And I appreciate he's come like the last two or three times and spoken about our priorities. 1209 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:32,380 I feel, and I think the rest of the board agrees with me that although he 1210 01:48:32,380 --> 01:48:37,960 to his defense, he's reading the priorities as they are listed in our document. 1211 01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:44,820 But I think if you talk to anybody in on this board, the three things that happen to be 1212 01:48:44,820 --> 01:48:49,860 the one, two, and three on this priority list are not our one, two, and three. 1213 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:57,020 And we had a meeting not too long after he said that the first time, and I would argue 1214 01:48:57,020 --> 01:49:01,780 and the board can correct me, but I think I'm going to be pretty accurate here. 1215 01:49:02,260 --> 01:49:07,280 This board is focused on the EMS, it's been focused on our sheriff's department, it's been 1216 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:12,300 focused on managing growth and keeping lower taxes, and I made a missed a couple, but I think 1217 01:49:12,300 --> 01:49:18,800 that's been our overall apparatus in our meetings and how do we meet those priorities? 1218 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:26,620 These things that come out of strategic documents, or yes, their priorities, but their priorities 1219 01:49:26,620 --> 01:49:32,360 and strategic documents, there's things that we want to do, but they're not what we focus on in every 1220 01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:38,260 meeting. We are very focused and and Mr. Ken Law that I failed or remember your name 1221 01:49:38,260 --> 01:49:44,600 a few minutes ago is evidence of what we've been all working very hard on and improving 1222 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:51,940 our EMS and we got two buildings getting ready to get started. He's hired 44 people in the 1223 01:49:51,940 --> 01:49:58,980 last two months, three months. Yeah, but he is working hard to get people hired and trained. 1224 01:50:00,700 --> 01:50:29,980 And bringing innovative ideas to our emergency services side. And so those are the type things that we are focused on, priority, where I say, now, with all that said, Mr. Hart, I agree with you on the taxes. We need to stay focused on what can we do to lower our taxes and keep them. For me, I'm a net zero. I drive Kevin crazy, because I like net zero. I want it to be, I want natural growth from this, you know, from the net zero. 1225 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:35,800 where we are, because I think we have plenty of money, plenty of revenue coming in. 1226 01:50:36,820 --> 01:50:45,060 Daniel, who he is the ring leader for a YouTuber united with the cameras, I, you know, 1227 01:50:45,180 --> 01:50:50,440 I hesitate to say that I agree with him, but I, I definitely, and I agree with him 1228 01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:51,960 and understanding these cameras. 1229 01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:58,280 I want to understand, and I may have even voted for him, I'm not even going into a hide 1230 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:06,780 But I want to understand what we voted for, and maybe there were some things that we didn't understand at the time when we voted for them. 1231 01:51:07,220 --> 01:51:19,640 So I'm definitely putting that back to you and Brett with understanding that because I'm definitely not liking what I'm reading and hearing about these cameras and the things that they can do and how they can be abused. 1232 01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:31,820 And, and I do compliment my fellow commissioner, Mr. Scarbender, for keeping me on my toes with that because I tend to lean on the side of the police. 1233 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:38,940 I like the blue, but at the same time, you know, we have a constitution, so you have to find that, find balance. 1234 01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,780 Ms. Cooper, I think I saw you in the hallway, but again, well spoken and thank you. 1235 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,000 And that's my brief. 1236 01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:57,860 Just echo a little bit about the John said with Mr. Cornell and Ms. Cooper, I thank you for 1237 01:51:57,860 --> 01:52:02,700 coming and talking about the flood cameras. I don't think any of us here do not appreciate 1238 01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:08,260 and respect the blue. We definitely do. And when it's in the right hands, you know, tools 1239 01:52:08,260 --> 01:52:14,320 can be used for good. And when it's not in the right hands, they can be used for ill as we've 1240 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:30,680 And so the possibility of that is what is scary to me and I will continue as John was saying we're going to continue to find out more about what is involved here locally in our community with them and do what we can to affect 1241 01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:39,920 You know the proper usage of them if that's what we need to do. So anyway, have a great week. Thank you for coming to a long meeting and staying 1242 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:45,520 I think Mr. Carpenter, Mr. Brigadier, wasn't going to say anything, but they're not 1243 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:46,320 flocked cameras. 1244 01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:51,480 You need to understand that they're not flocked cameras, they're a different type of a 1245 01:52:51,480 --> 01:52:55,020 camera to be made by a different company, they're not flocked cameras, and it seems like 1246 01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:57,740 everybody in here wants to say they're flocked cameras, they're not. 1247 01:52:58,260 --> 01:53:02,840 So what you need to do is get edge of them one more time, that's a lot of the past, but 1248 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:04,440 you need to get educated on it. 1249 01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:06,020 I'm serious thinking, they're not that. 1250 01:53:06,060 --> 01:53:08,720 And what they do is they just read the license tag and that's all they're doing. 1251 01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,540 You can't blue-tooth them. 1252 01:53:10,620 --> 01:53:12,920 You can say what you want, but you can't. 1253 01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:15,040 There's a lot of things you need to learn about these cameras 1254 01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,680 at the sheriff's use, and then he said he would come to us 1255 01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,060 in a meeting and tell us all about these cameras. 1256 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,620 And they're made by a different company, but they're not the ones 1257 01:53:22,620 --> 01:53:24,340 that everybody's claiming all over the country. 1258 01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:25,240 They're not those. 1259 01:53:25,340 --> 01:53:26,340 They're totally different. 1260 01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,480 On the second hand, I want to thank Lisa and Tony and this board 1261 01:53:30,480 --> 01:53:33,000 for a round of three of us to work with the fire people, 1262 01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:34,340 all the following to your firefighters. 1263 01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,680 I mean, it took us a long time to get to we are today. 1264 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:43,080 I want to thank Steve, you met with us with a three of us and J.R. 1265 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,140 And Ricky, and we had a meeting over it. 1266 01:53:46,220 --> 01:53:48,720 In fact, we were over there at the station. 1267 01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,300 J.R. station over there at Roads Town. 1268 01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:52,840 And we had a really good meeting. 1269 01:53:52,940 --> 01:53:55,360 A lot of things came out of that Kevin was there also 1270 01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,320 and Kevin gave us some information that we didn't know. 1271 01:53:58,900 --> 01:53:59,640 We know it now. 1272 01:53:59,820 --> 01:54:01,020 We're going to move forward on that. 1273 01:54:01,420 --> 01:54:03,920 But the second thing is Steve, which you did, 1274 01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:09,800 was to, we had this first meeting with the three of us with all of you, but we won't be there next time. 1275 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:16,380 This is all with you and staff, Ricky and MS for us to be at the first meeting, but now you're going to meet with them once a month. 1276 01:54:16,980 --> 01:54:20,220 The transparency with our firefighters, it means so much to me. 1277 01:54:20,220 --> 01:54:24,500 I mean, we work so hard to three of us and to board allow one of us to do that. 1278 01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:25,960 And I want to thank the board for that. 1279 01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:31,000 I want to thank you guys that are working hard to keep it going because it's working. 1280 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:35,440 Right now is working. I can tell you two years ago and both of the two members on the board 1281 01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:40,360 can tell you it was a nightmare for us. It was pretty tough trying to get these contracts 1282 01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:44,400 signed and we are on a better place and we're going to get better. We're going to get more transparency 1283 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,000 with the volunteer firefighters. Thank you for being here. 1284 01:54:47,900 --> 01:54:54,240 Thank you, Mr. Becany. Commissioner Ben. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, I want to thank our volunteer 1285 01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:58,080 Fire Department's too. I appreciate all the efforts that you all have made. 1286 01:54:58,640 --> 01:54:59,900 I love us and made too. 1287 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:10,040 To get these contracts in place, the contracts that protect our taxpayers and support our volunteer 1288 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:16,040 fire departments. And I appreciate y'all for your work on all of that. 1289 01:55:18,410 --> 01:55:20,710 Commission Davis kind of stole my thunder there 1290 01:55:20,710 --> 01:55:29,110 because I was going to say tonight's meeting demonstrates that our priorities are fire service and 1291 01:55:29,110 --> 01:55:40,290 CMS and schools and other things besides the few recreation issues that people keep wanting 1292 01:55:40,290 --> 01:55:41,710 to bring up. 1293 01:55:41,970 --> 01:55:49,470 And I would note that none of these issues that we spent any money on at this point. 1294 01:55:49,930 --> 01:55:54,830 And the process of spending money is quite arduous. 1295 01:55:55,570 --> 01:56:02,230 And we'll have project ordinances and contracts, and it'll go through this board several 1296 01:56:02,230 --> 01:56:06,430 times before we actually spend any money on these projects. 1297 01:56:06,490 --> 01:56:10,090 But there are things that have been on our priority list for several years. 1298 01:56:10,730 --> 01:56:16,690 And I think many of us would like to see some of these projects come to fruition. 1299 01:56:16,690 --> 01:56:28,790 And for those who are concerned about the increase in our budget, and that concerns all of us, I think, 1300 01:56:29,530 --> 01:56:41,030 but I have to note that we just passed a budget ordinance to build a $49,8,000,000 elementary school 1301 01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:48,770 that in 2020 cost us $19 million, $19 million, that's over twice over double. 1302 01:56:49,350 --> 01:56:57,950 And I would argue that all of our expenses in the county have doubled or more over the last 1303 01:56:57,950 --> 01:57:09,110 eight years. So while we weren't very hard to keep our costs down and to not over tax anybody, 1304 01:57:09,110 --> 01:57:25,330 We can't help the costs that go up constantly and we struggle everybody here to make the limited funds that we have work for everybody and also county. 1305 01:57:26,770 --> 01:57:31,230 So I appreciate everybody's concern and I too have those concerns. 1306 01:57:31,230 --> 01:57:36,570 often say every time somebody comes to me and says why don't we do this? Why don't we do that? 1307 01:57:37,690 --> 01:57:43,150 The first thing that goes through my head is how much is going to cost the taxpayers. I have 1308 01:57:44,950 --> 01:57:52,590 in the 22 values that we're using now, a penny of taxes generates about $2.1 million dollars. 1309 01:57:54,170 --> 01:58:00,630 And so my first thought is if we do this, who's willing to pay one penny of their property taxes to do it? 1310 01:58:00,630 --> 01:58:02,630 Are you willing to pay two pennies? 1311 01:58:04,250 --> 01:58:07,430 I pay property taxes just like everybody else out there. 1312 01:58:07,850 --> 01:58:10,750 And I don't want to pay any more than I have to. 1313 01:58:11,150 --> 01:58:15,170 But I have to weigh whether or not these projects are worth it 1314 01:58:15,170 --> 01:58:18,510 to the 218,000 citizens that we serve in 1315 01:58:18,510 --> 01:58:19,410 Ontario County. 1316 01:58:20,130 --> 01:58:23,310 And I'll continue to do that for as long as you let me. 1317 01:58:23,550 --> 01:58:24,190 Thank you. 1318 01:58:24,330 --> 01:58:25,090 You'll have a good night. 1319 01:58:25,930 --> 01:58:26,930 Thank you, Mr. Bennett. 1320 01:58:27,550 --> 01:58:33,350 First, I want to reiterate the August 28th, 50th Anniversary of Onzler Pines Park. 1321 01:58:33,890 --> 01:58:35,550 That should be a great morning. 1322 01:58:36,210 --> 01:58:41,810 I might even get to see some pictures of a 12 or 13-year-old Tim Foster in a baseball 1323 01:58:41,810 --> 01:58:43,890 uniform at Onzler Pines Park. 1324 01:58:44,570 --> 01:58:45,850 Probably not very recognizable. 1325 01:58:46,130 --> 01:58:51,750 It's probably about 100 pounds smaller than what it is now, but it's a great celebration 1326 01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:57,870 of Parks and Rec, and how important it is to communities and they open there over that 1327 01:58:57,870 --> 01:59:05,690 park in 1976 and then the parks that have come since. Parks and Rec is a huge resource 1328 01:59:05,690 --> 01:59:11,890 for the community. As not one is built to make money, it's built to build quality of life, 1329 01:59:12,010 --> 01:59:16,270 and that's what's so important about Parks and Rec creation. The other part is we talk about 1330 01:59:16,270 --> 01:59:25,450 budget and our budget, 18-19 percent of that budget is where it's not mandated and parks 1331 01:59:25,450 --> 01:59:26,850 and wreck falls underneath that. 1332 01:59:26,850 --> 01:59:31,470 There's other services and things that falls underneath that 18-19 percent of our budget. 1333 01:59:32,410 --> 01:59:39,150 The 81 percent of our budget, 81 percent of our budget goes to, as Mr. Patterson mentioned, 1334 01:59:39,310 --> 01:59:43,350 it's our health and human resources, public safety and education. 1335 01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:48,410 And I'm just, you know, just going to take the help and human services out of it and talk 1336 01:59:48,410 --> 01:59:52,150 about Costa Carolina community college and owns the county schools. 1337 01:59:52,670 --> 01:59:59,970 Those two things are the one item in our budget that creates opportunity for everyone. 1338 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,500 County. Every kid that's born here, moves here, goes through our educational system, K-12. Then they have the opportunity 1339 02:00:07,500 --> 02:00:14,960 to attend one of the strongest community colleges in North Carolina at a very reduced rate as 1340 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:21,080 compared to starting off at a four-year university. So those establishments, those entities provide 1341 02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:29,980 the opportunity for everyone to get an education and give them the opportunity in life, whether it's 1342 02:00:29,980 --> 02:00:35,340 continue to stay here. And those two things also fall into the next part is that we have 1343 02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:41,680 215,000 people in Ones Look County. And having been a history teacher for many years, I have 1344 02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:49,840 you you teach history, what happens when growth in the area continues as unprecedented rate, 1345 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:57,020 what increases, fires and emergencies and crime. So what are the things that we have to do to address 1346 02:00:57,020 --> 02:01:02,060 that our service, share, office, and EMS. 1347 02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:05,540 So those are things that make up the budget for 1348 02:01:05,540 --> 02:01:08,980 Oneslow County from education to public safety to 1349 02:01:08,980 --> 02:01:10,120 health and human services. 1350 02:01:10,580 --> 02:01:13,620 And the one thing that I'm sure of, there's no one sitting in 1351 02:01:13,620 --> 02:01:17,080 the room tonight whenever you dial those three numbers, 911. 1352 02:01:17,860 --> 02:01:22,120 How important it is for someone to answer and for someone to respond. 1353 02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:25,860 And for someone to answer and for someone to respond, it is 1354 02:01:25,860 --> 02:01:28,740 necessary for them to complete their education. 1355 02:01:29,340 --> 02:01:32,920 It is a cycle and it has to be completed and completed together. 1356 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:36,360 When you invest in your community, you invest in your future. 1357 02:01:36,780 --> 02:01:40,240 With that being said, never apologize for your faith or your patriotism. 1358 02:01:40,580 --> 02:01:41,160 We're adjourned.