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Welcome to a meeting of the Ontario City Council.

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Our first sort of business is a roll call, madam.

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Thank you very much. The record would reflect all members of our President of certain nights meeting.

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All right, thank you. And before we move on, does anybody have any possible conflicts of interest?

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Seeing none.

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We'll move on, and we'll begin with the pledge of allegiance, led by Council Member Missius.

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like to be in our place for a slide.

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You're running over your arm, ready to keep it.

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To the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which a stand is.

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One nation might have got an administrative role with liberty and justice role.

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And our invocation will be led by Pastor Richard Hernandez.

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Who's already there?

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Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you this evening that we can look to you,

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knowing that everything belongs to you, and you've got the whole world in your hands tonight.

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we ask that you would take this meeting into your hands and that you would Lord give

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wisdom from on high Lord that we would be able to operate in this city with divine wisdom,

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Lord and integrity, we pray that you would especially bless the leaders of this city

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dear God that they would be able to operate in a way that be well pleasing in your sight.

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They would best benefit the citizens, Lord, that we might live a peaceful life and be able

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to serve you freely dear God.

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We thank you so much for the prosperity you've given this city, we pray that you

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help us not to spurn it or to waste it, Lord, but that we would know how to glorify you better

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in it all. Have your way now we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. Thank you.

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All right, this takes us to public comments. The comments are limited to three minutes.

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It'll be alerted when you have one minute remaining. And, according to the state law,

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remarks during public comment are to be limited to subjects within council jurisdiction.

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All of those wishing to speak, including council and staff need to be recognized

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by the chair. Do we have any email comments?

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Yes, Mr. Mayor, they have big printed place that the day is and will be entered into the record.

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All right, thank you. So I have, once again, quite a few blue cards. So we're going to stick

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tight to the timeframe.

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Our first speaker is Sarah Rios.

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You want to come up with her?

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You can come up with there.

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So this is going to be a little bit of microphone for her.

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We'll sit her off to the side of her this way, OK?

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And then she can hold the microphone, or that way's fine.

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So there would just be a comfortable,

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where just normal people is talk to us.

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You want to come up with those posters?

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Now that she's going to be talking about that, so you can come up with them. So you're not sitting out there with them?

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Sarah,

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all the members member of the council,

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and here's a message you.

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New Zealand Walk,

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New Zealand Work School,

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School and Communals,

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participate for this activity year.

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So you want to go to El Camino School to participate in this community event, which is the National Walk to School.

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It's national work to school.

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Do you have any more to know?

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OK, so I'm kind of in a quandary of a moment here

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because I'm not really supposed to be conversing back and forth.

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But what you're talking about is the walks of school, which

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is starting at Anthony Moono's Park at 7 o'clock

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in the morning, October 7th.

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And then we'll walk with you all the way to El Tamino school.

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OK.

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Well, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yeah. Good job.

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Our next speaker is Angie Meremontis.

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Thank you. Good evening Mayor and members of the city council, other city staff.

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My name is Angie Meremontis and I'm an Ontario resident.

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I'm speaking on items four, 14 and 15 because I believe all three raise the same larger question.

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How are we preparing Ontario for long-term water security, extreme weather and responsible growth?

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On item 14, I support strengthening the city's water conservation plan, the proposed ordinance

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would permanently prohibit irrigation of runoff and begin facing outputable water irrigation

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of non-functional turf, including turf and medians, parkways, commercial properties and other

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public spaces.

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But as that turf comes out, we should think carefully about what replaces it.

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The city therefore has a choice between merely complying with state law or using a transition

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to create a connected network of water-wise native landscapes that capture rain, provide shade,

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support biodiversity, and make Ontario more resilient to both the drought and flooding.

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I encourage the city to prioritize California native trees, shrubs, grasses, and flowering plants,

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along with bioswales, rain gardens, permeable surfaces and other green infrastructure.

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We should design our landscapes to not only use less water, but also to capture rainfall,

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and provide shade and support local biodiversity.

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The same thinking should apply to item four.

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The city is considering declaring,

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approximately, six acres of publicly owned land

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off of East Philadelphia Street as surplus.

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The staff report itself recognizes that the surplus

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land act includes parks and open space among the priorities

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that must be considered.

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Before we permanently dispose of public land,

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I ask the city to evaluate whether it could provide value

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as open space, native habitat, urban forestry, stormwater capture, or groundwater recharged infrastructure,

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more in-minute remaining.

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And on item 15, the proposed development at Archibald and Imland Empire, it includes commercial

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building, surface parking, landscaping, and our required stormwater mitigation.

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This is an opportunity for Ontario to demonstrate what high-quality development can look

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like by incorporating native landscaping shade trees, bioswales, rain gardens, and onsite

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infiltration were ever feasible.

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As we prepare for the coming raining season

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and the possibility of a strong Elmino winter,

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we should remember that rainfall is not just something

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to drain away.

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It is a resource.

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My request is that Ontario adopted broader city-wide approach

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that connects water conservation, native plant infrastructure,

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storm water, capture, groundwater recharge,

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and preservation of open space.

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Water conservation does not only mean using less water,

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it also means keeping more of that water

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that falls in Ontario in Ontario.

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Thank you so much for your time.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Before you move on to the next speaker, if I could just ask your indulgence for one second.

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Ms. Mittemit, I want to mention that she was speaking to three items, one of which is on the consent calendar, and the other two were public hearings.

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And so, she was kind enough to provide her comments and writing to the council. You all have them before you, with your permission, and we are a sent, Ms. Mittemit, I want to ask that those written comments be included in the public record for those public hearing items,

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so that we don't necessarily have to bother her to come up again

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during those two public hearing items.

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Are you okay with that?

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All right, wonderful.

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Mr. Mayor, is that okay with you?

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Yeah, I think that's appropriate.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, thank you.

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Our next speaker is Tina Silver.

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Good evening, Mayor City Council.

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I would like to begin with a brief landing knowledgement.

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We recognize that Ontario sits on the traditional and seated lands

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of indigenous peoples.

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And we honor their continued connection

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to this land and community.

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Since our last meeting on August 18th,

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there have been three more documented immigration

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enforcement incidents in Ontario,

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including multiple people detained.

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On August 19th, a man on his way to work,

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near Lenny, Corps, and Virginia,

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was approached and detained by immigration agents.

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I was there.

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He was so afraid that he would not roll down his window.

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He told the agents he was calling

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in the Ontario Police Department.

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Their response, go ahead.

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They know we're here and they'll help us.

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Then on August 25th, a man was followed

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from Vaughn View in Saltana and ultimately detained

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near Vineyard in Arrow.

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That same morning, another man was taken there

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Berlin and Forestry.

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These are not isolated incidents.

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People in our community are being followed, detained,

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and taken from places where they should be able to go to work

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and live their lives without fear.

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I'm asking this council to take a specific action tonight.

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Direct a city manager and police chief to provide council and the public with a written

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report at the next city council meeting documenting all known immigration enforcement activity

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in Ontario since last June 2025, including where OPED officers or city resources were involved,

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What policies govern any interaction with federal immigration agents and what protections are in place for community members who contact OPD for help?

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Our community deserves transparency and accountability. People should be able to call their local police without fearing that doing so will put them at greater risk.

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Now, I have to say, was man went, let me know.

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This man was like, oh, thankfully.

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But can you imagine not wanting to roll down your window,

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because you have masked people who won't tell you who they are,

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doesn't show you a badge.

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You tell them you're calling Ontario police,

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and they tell you that that's okay.

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They know we're here and they'll help us.

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I heard it with my own ears.

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That's not to say that OPD is going to do that,

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but I'd like to know. Thank you.

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All right.

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Our next speaker is Brad Newman.

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Hello, friends.

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My name is Brad Newman.

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I am a former city auditor for the City of Ontario in beautiful southern California.

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The reason why I am the former city auditor is because I was ordered to violate the public

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stress that I said no.

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I just want to put tonight's City Council agenda items into context for the public who may

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not be paying attention.

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At the last city council meeting on August 4th, I was too city council meeting to go.

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We had a brother and sister from Treasurer banquet hall speak about how Alan Lockner is allegedly sniping their business

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They described what sounded like an extortion scheme in July before that Alan Lockner's house was rated

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And I was retaliated against starting in December of 2023

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Scott, are you a corrupt city manager?

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Because I went to talk with you, do you remember this yellow envelope?

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Because I went into your office around 1245 on Tuesday, December 12, 2023, and I asked

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to talk with you about the appearance of corruption in your administration.

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You pressed a button on your phone and it sounded like Dan Bell picked up and pretended

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to have you on hold, Dan Bell the Communications Director.

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I've asked public records to produce your phone records and they've refused to.

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You told me that you were on hold and you asked me to schedule a meeting with your assistant.

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I did that and those teams messages between myself and your assistant have not been produced.

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Are you a corrupt city manager? Because a corrupt city manager would suppress the...

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Would suppress the production of those racks?

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So, I'd like to have those records produced. You need to understand, Mayor, that we have what appears to be a fully mature corrupt administration, here at this municipality, we're executive, after executive, after executive, are willing to line up and violate the American way of life.

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fire chief Kirk and you know that attorney Michael Heiter

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why he didn't know that he falsified the administrative record

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and you had the opportunity as a hearing officer

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to order the city to produce the audit log

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of case 44's investigative report.

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You heard how he is evidence.

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Mr. Mayor, I wish you a speaker

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that this is the opportunity to address the council

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and not individual members of the staff or the audience.

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Replay my time ribbon.

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Replay my time ribbon.

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You can show the time and so Mr. Newman is aware of what the rules are for public

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crime.

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Can you read some of the time?

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I'm going to read five seconds before he interrupts me.

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Just speak to us.

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We have what appears to be a corrupt administration, that's engaged in retaliation.

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One of the things that struck me after I heard the treasure banquet hall was that I had

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a meeting, I had a meeting with community development before I was placed on paid administrative

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leave where they walked me through their system.

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We intentionally failed to perform, and we intentionally failed to develop all of the functionalities in the community development system.

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I believe the help facilitate that type of corruption that was alleged.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Our next speaker is Kevin Kizi.

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If I can get one second, you're on or before I begin.

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I'd like to give credit and thanks to the Utilities Director, Engineering Operations.

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over-seer Brian Lyrie in the operations supervisor Daniel Fernandez.

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Those two individuals are instrumental in taking care of repairs that happen amongst the city.

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I know a lot of residents aren't aware of what they do and what it takes to dig up the concrete.

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The asphalt cut roots and maintain some areas specifically near one of our residents.

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There's a tree that was very important to a family member that's deceased now.

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And they were able to save that tree and also take care of some potting and make sure that it was

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preserved for that veteran who's living by itself now, so I would like to thank them.

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With respect to public comments, I'd like to talk about the girls here.

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I have the young men here before, and in looking to find out what was going on with the batting cages at Westwind,

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I learned here in your district, Ms. Messius, that at the J. Galvin Park, these girls don't even have a bathroom when they practice, and that is deplorable, that there is no bathroom.

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Now they have to be uprooted because we have revitalization going on at the end of the park, and they have to use J. Galvin, but to be placed there without bathrooms, is deplorable.

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and someone should look into that and make sure it doesn't happen.

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They're currently back at Kimball Park.

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Kimball Park has no lights.

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Kimball Park has no barriers around the fences.

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When the kids hit the ball in a far manner,

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there's no barrier to stop it.

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Parents are walking across the field to get to other fields.

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The bathroom situation.

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They have one laboratory for them men and women.

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And if they want some extra laboratories there,

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for example, in September 12 for their opening day,

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where they will have, I believe, Mont Clare, Riverside,

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Ho-Rupa, and maybe Clare Mont all playing.

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They are all of these family members and children

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are going to have to rely on one restroom.

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That's completely unacceptable for a city with our surplus

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in the revenue that we generate.

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Why we are overlooking them?

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I don't understand.

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One minute remains.

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I'm appreciative of the growth that we do have here.

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But I also understand that these kids need to be taking care of too.

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This group of young ladies right here, they have to go from west to win to Kimball, which I get it.

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We can only afford so many spaces they have to move around.

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The parents are helping them do that.

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But we have to make sure they have adequate places to play in adequate places for them to learn their craft and go on to hopefully softball and college or do whatever it is they need to do.

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Also, we have the sports empire that's coming in and unfortunately these young ladies won't be able to play there because they can't afford to play.

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That makes no sense for them to play at the sports empire.

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It seems like they have to basically, in their little entity,

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which is the fastball pitch, enjoying something else.

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I mean, how would we like it if I have to end driving a certain type of vehicle

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and pick up another vehicle for my business?

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It's not fair.

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I ask that you guys, please look into it and help them.

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Thank you.

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Okay, Gianna Jones, or it's a glory, it's glory of Jones.

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I'm sorry, glory of you.

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Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is Gloria Jones with Ontario Heritage. And I want to speak tonight. This is Randy Campbell. She's on the board too. And what I wanted to announce that I want the community to know about our cemetery tour that's coming up on October 10th. It's always the second Saturday of the month. It starts promptly at 10.15.

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Tickets will start to be sold at 930.

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Tickets are also available on our OntarioHeritage.org website, also at Logan's Candy, and at

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Bellevue Cemetery.

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It the ticket is at $20 for members, $25 for non-members.

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If nobody's ever been to one of our cemetery tours, I encourage you to go.

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I've done a lot.

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I've chaired the cemetery toward the last two years since Katrina Delman retired or had left and she moved.

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I am really passionate about Ontario's heritage and the characters.

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So what we do is we take five notable citizens that are buried at Bellevue Cemetery.

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And I do research on them and we get volunteer actors.

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In fact, we have one in our midst, oh, I wonder who that is.

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And this year's going to be awesome, it's going to be really awesome and it takes about

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an hour and a half, hour, 40 minutes somewhere around there.

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But if you've never been to our cemetery tour, I encourage you, you're going to love it.

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And a lot of it, like I said, it all, we've all just around a notable person that's buried at Bellevue.

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And like I said, get to know the city of Monterey of the history. It's awesome. Really really awesome.

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Wendy, did you insane since that we always just said?

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One minute, we always get rave reviews. People really like it.

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We have costume, people and period costume telling their stories of their lives, their standing

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next to their actual grave as if they were alive, reflecting on their life.

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It's very educational, appropriate for families and children.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, and kids 12 and a short free, like I said, to kids $20 members, $25 non-members.

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I hope I see you there.

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Thank you.

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I heard you got grave reviews.

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Great.

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Oh my god, yeah, that's awesome, I like that.

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Chris Robless.

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Well done, that was funny.

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Good evening, my name is Chris Robless, and I have three things I wanted to say.

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So first, I really loved the accommodation for that speaker that she was allowed to get three minutes to talk about multiple items.

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I hope that courtesy is extended to all of us.

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Second, it dawned on me with the children here that those of you who have been here for over 30 years

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when you got onto the council, those kids are now, if they were born when you were put on the council,

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they're now 30 years old or older and now have their own children.

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It's good that you're talking about term limits.

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And then lastly, I did not get to finish my comments at the last meeting at that time

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it was item 15, two weeks ago.

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I spoke and said that in the last 12-month time period, Mr. Wopner had raised nearly $500,000.

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And given the airport authorities meeting today, and they're looking at having an external

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investigation or people from outside the agency doing an investigation, I think it's

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warranted here too.

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That is an insane amount of money for one person to be raising.

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And it can't be because people like them.

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That they would give them that much money.

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It has to be, I mean, common sense tells you,

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there's some reason.

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And I won't say it because I can't prove it,

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but others would call it a quid pro quo.

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And given the high probability and likelihood

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and possibility of an indictment coming forward

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after these two FBI rates.

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One minute remain.

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It is warranted for this body to call for a special investigator from outside the city.

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Not connected to anybody or any firm to do an investigation to see if similar things that have possibly happened at the airport, given the airport authorities reasoned for looking into it, the same reasons for here.

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I think that sentence made sense. Nonetheless, thank you.

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All right, thank you.

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Mary McBride.

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I'm sorry, Marty.

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I know that.

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But it looks like Mary here.

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It looks like Mary.

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Could have been a different person.

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Yeah.

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Good evening, Mary and City Council.

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My name is Marty McBride.

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With a T, I am a resident of Ontario's district one.

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At the emergency meeting held on August 7th,

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the city made it clear that it was not imposing attacks

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on the residents on Ontario. It was also set at that meeting that putting a measure on the ballot

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would allow voters to decide whether or not they wanted to be taxed. These statements

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represent a half truth. The whole truth is that the city did not intend to impose attacks.

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It would not have held a last minute, 11th hour emergency meeting, without a clear accounting and public

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presentation of the money's generated by Measure Q, that was approved by voters for years

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ago.

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The Measure H has too many flaws.

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There is no accountability to residents.

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There is no end date to this tax.

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There are no spending guardrails or restrictions on how the money is to be spent.

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These monies will be a blank check for the city to spend as it pleases without any oversight as to anything other than that the money was spent.

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These actions speak clearly. If it was not required by law to impose, oh I'm sorry, if it was not required by law for the city to put a tax measure on the ballot, it would not have done so.

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It would instead have simply voted 50 to impose attacks and the only thing stopping the city from doing that was the law that requires a vote to put a measure up to the residents.

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I want to encourage on the record that all residents be made aware in one way or another of these one minute remaining and that the city provide as well a full accounting

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of all of the money that it spends in favor of passing this measure.

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Thank you very much.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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And we'll say, our last speaker is Tommy Musch again.

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First point I'd like to make is asking for university accessible playground equipment.

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I haven't seen anything yet.

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Really reports on that.

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I'm waiting on that.

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I'd like you to dissolve the city's solid waste department contract

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down to a private company to save money, making too much money.

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And when is Chino Avenue going to be reopened,

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busy pushing everybody on a Riverside tribe

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to look at your empire, but then again,

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I'm waiting for Chino Avenue to reopen up.

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And it's taking too long, it's ridiculous.

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So, and then I've got a question for your zoning

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and administrative meanings.

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Why are they consistently canceled every time?

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There's twice a month, but you consistently cancel them.

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So, I think that's ridiculous.

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And then over here, we've got the city manager give way between January and June of this year over

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561 tickets. Basically, majority of them going to Ms. Vesias,

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Latner, Leon, and the assistant city manager as long as the bell guy, too.

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So you're given way of free tickets to your little bit with the most expensive ones being to your minor league baseball team at

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$170 a pop plus all in the

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at the arena, so I think that's totally unfair that you're doing that, and I blame you,

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city manager out of Clendale.

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All right.

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Well, that moves us into agenda announcements and review Mr. City manager.

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Mr. Mayor, before we get into that, would it be able to cave, we just give a little bit

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of context to some of the things that you heard tonight?

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Maybe working in reverse order, I don't know if there was anything

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Mr. Mushigan said that was worth getting into.

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But with respect to the measure h, to say that anybody from the podium knew exactly what this council

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would have done if you could is a bit disingenuous. The state law does not allow any council and

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has not since 1978, I believe, to put any measure onto the ballot. And so it has to go onto the

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for the voters to approve. This Council cannot approve attacks. That is just the law. It is

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that clear. The law also dictates the manner in which a matter could be put on the ballot.

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It is true that this Council put the matter on the ballot on the last possible day,

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but that timing simply was what it was. There was no other way to do it, or just not actually

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call for the question. If you're going to call for that question, it had to happen by that last

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day so many days before the election. There was no other, in the various reason behind it,

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and in fact, you still had the meeting. You had a packed house with a lot of folks who were

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here expressing lots of different diverse opinions, both in support and in opposition. And so

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that's why you have the vote to let the folks decide. I understand that I set it the other day

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that if folks are upset and they don't want to pass it, then by all means vote no.

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If you support it, and there are a number of folks that you saw at your hearing support,

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then I'm sure they're going to vote yes.

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And they're going to advocate for that yes.

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And to that end, the comment about how much money is going to be spent in passing the measure,

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how many city money is going to be passed used to pass the measure.

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I mean, I can tell you now, it's going to be zero.

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because the city cannot advocate for the passage of the measure.

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We can educate, but we cannot advocate.

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And for folks that would say, well, it's one and the same.

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I would argue, no, it isn't.

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The FPPC would tell you, definitely, it is not.

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And the FPPC is going to be the group that is going to receive.

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I'm sure any number of complaints from folks who are saying,

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that's not right or that's not fair or that should not be the case.

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But there is the law and then there is activity outside of the law.

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And so, the city will continue to operate as an organization completely within those four corners.

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And folks can say, well, you should do more, you should do less, or you should do it.

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You're going to do what the law dictates that you have to do at the end of the day.

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Some folks may not like that, but to come back and make that argument that, well,

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if you didn't have to, you wouldn't comply with Prop 13 is just flat wrong, unfortunately.

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with respect to, I'm inclined to oblige Mr. Noon because for the better part of three years,

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he's been coming back to this body to spend any number of wild and sensational stories about what happened to him.

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And, last what happened to him is not part of some grand scheme or done without due process.

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In fact, the due process for Mr. Newman culminated in a hearing in this chambers, because

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he requested that it was an open hearing when he was placed on an administrative leave

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and let go.

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And I'll save the detail as to why, because ostensibly it speaks to his credibility as someone

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to tell the truth.

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But he disputed the discipline through the process.

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He had what is called the Skelly hearing in front of the police chief, and the discipline

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was upheld.

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He appealed that to a hearing officer, which was the fire chief, and lost there, and appealed

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that to you, and yet lost here too.

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So is it not, and front of anybody who wanted to be here, anyone who wanted to watch and

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listen to the granular arguments that he would make trying to say that up is down and black

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is white. Isn't it just possible that Mr. Newman just isn't right? And I would submit

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to you that based on all of the conversations that we've had all this time that it is completely

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and abundantly clear, that is not.

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It's one thing to go up your accounts,

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it's one thing to go up your Mr. Duran or myself.

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But if you're going to go and start leveling

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those types of attacks at our staff,

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I'm sorry, you cross a line.

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And unfortunately, Mr. Newman doesn't know what that line is

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as he's demonstrated again and again and again.

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With respect to some of the other comments

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And I promise I'll cut it short with,

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Mr. Kizzi, excuse me, won't have anything. No, no, no, no, that's not allowable. You're not allowed to speak unless recognized, you're not recognized, you really need to be quiet, okay? Thank you very much.

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Yes, Mr. City Manager.

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Mr. City Manager?

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Yes, sir.

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The only other thing that I would submit to you with respect to Mr. Kizzi's comments, I would invite him to get together with our folks in CLC.

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for licensed groups that are here in town and I believe fast-pitch

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softball is. They'll be able to play at the deeply discounted rates such as

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they are right now at sports empire. The whole point from city council was to

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make sure that our folks, the kids who play in this town that are part of

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those licensed groups, AYSO, Lily, the fast-pitch, that they have access to that

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amazing facility first and foremost. And so let's just be real clear that that

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something that this council has dictated for all of the kids in our community.

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And maybe one last thing is it goes back to Measure Q. Go online. I mean, the Measure Q

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00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:16,040
page that is there online spells out where the money for Measure Q, where it's gone,

461
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,980
whether it is the storm drains in the older part of the city, so that hopefully someday we

462
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:26,800
get rid of the little bridges that we have to put out whenever it does rain. So kids can walk

463
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:34,140
over the flooded out intersections, or if it is the wellness campus for homeless folks, because

464
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:38,780
we're doing more for homeless services than has ever been done before in this community,

465
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,620
or it is the parks and the park improvements for those communities and neighborhoods like

466
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:50,880
they ons, like Anthony Muñoz Park, where we enssoon north central, where we have needed

467
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:56,940
those types of amenities or it is the improvements into downtown because folks seem to feel

468
00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:02,340
that we need and I would tend to agree that downtown may not be the economic heart of the city,

469
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:07,580
but it's certainly the emotional heart of the city, so being able to put together and a program

470
00:37:07,580 --> 00:37:12,200
to achieve a renaissance in downtown and then certainly some of the larger projects that are

471
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:18,160
in and of themselves economic development programs that generate revenue that feed the overall

472
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:23,540
programming of the city for all of those services that folks want and need to see.

473
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:33,500
I'm sorry if we're going on Mr. May but there was a number of things that I think can be made clear for folks if they are willing to hear what the actual answer is.

474
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:42,980
And so, as I offered last time, and I offer again anybody who wants to talk about any of these projects for programs, give me a call.

475
00:37:42,980 --> 00:37:50,400
And I'm happy to sit down and talk with them one-on-one or in small groups and lay it all out there because Ontario has an amazing story to tell.

476
00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:57,050
And just to piggyback folks, a little bit on what he said, especially with the homeless situation.

477
00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:05,350
You may have been seeing lately in the news that HUD is stopped funding Los Angeles for their homeless programs.

478
00:38:06,070 --> 00:38:08,390
At the same meeting that they were talking about that.

479
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:12,570
in Washington, D.C., I was informed by a high-level,

480
00:38:12,670 --> 00:38:16,590
HUD official that they were also talking about the city of Ontario.

481
00:38:16,590 --> 00:38:18,390
I want a great job we do.

482
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:23,330
And probably they'll be partnering with us a lot.

483
00:38:23,850 --> 00:38:25,030
Because we do. So thank you.

484
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:26,990
Thank you very much. And if that's it,

485
00:38:26,990 --> 00:38:30,590
then we're going to move on to any announcements that you have.

486
00:38:31,730 --> 00:38:33,930
All right. Thank you. So move on to consent calendar.

487
00:38:33,930 --> 00:38:43,010
And all matters listed will be, there'll be no separate discussion unless an item is pulled by the council.

488
00:38:45,210 --> 00:38:45,410
Bye.

489
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:48,390
Thanks for coming.

490
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:57,830
As a reminder, comments for consent item will be limited to two minutes.

491
00:38:59,630 --> 00:39:01,670
And we do have a few speakers.

492
00:39:02,530 --> 00:39:05,590
We have for 14 and 13, Mr. Newman.

493
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,540
Hello friends, my name is Brad Newman and Scott, you can produce the records when you feel like it.

494
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:22,220
I'm here to say no on four, you guys cried some alligator tears when you approved the truck away.

495
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:27,420
You said, oh we have to have this truck route through here and we can't do anything to make our air quality cleaner.

496
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,120
Well with number four, item number four, you're disposing of green land.

497
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,060
We could use that land to actually have clean air.

498
00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:40,000
That's right next to a hospital, it seems like a good place for us to have some parks and

499
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,320
some walking areas for the patients there.

500
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,980
Specifically, again, number 13 is the mobile home park record.

501
00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:50,940
This is very clear corruption to me.

502
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,300
This to me is the behavior of a corrupt administration, picking the economic winners and losers

503
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:57,140
at our economy.

504
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,980
Do you remember the 1980s with Ronald Reagan?

505
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,520
How did we win the war with the against the Soviet Union? We want it economically. The thing is, is that the Soviets are the ones that really lost the war because of their corruption.

506
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:28,220
Here's what you want to hear. I did a retrospective model to apply this logic to the past 40 years. If you can see at the bottom of the page here, Mayor, I have the listing $100 worth of rent in 1986 is the equivalent to about $300 today.

507
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:32,780
If you apply this Ontario rent formula, you would be about $600.

508
00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:41,000
Meaning that if you follow this policy and if you flip over here, I have some charts to show you exactly how damaging this is.

509
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:50,080
I don't know if you can see on this is on page 9-13 there's an orange line that goes way up and there's a black line that goes way down.

510
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,900
That's the price of inflation versus the price of inflation of rental housing under this policy.

511
00:40:56,460 --> 00:41:03,840
This is the destruction of public wealth, this is generating inflation, Donald Trump hates

512
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,960
Ontario, he hates California, I think he hates Ontario California, when he finds out we

513
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,080
have high cost of living because of Ontario California, he's not going to be happy, this

514
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,640
is high cost of living.

515
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,440
All right, thank you, we have Mr. Kizzy speaking to item number 13,

516
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:23,900
thank you, Mayor City Council.

517
00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:28,480
Given recent events in this Council's public promises of transparency,

518
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:32,400
Pasine and corporate rent hike on the silent rubber stamp is completely unacceptable.

519
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,280
I demand that it can't remember pool item 13 for separate discussion or in the alternative

520
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,920
that you vote no on this predatory formula tonight.

521
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,700
This isn't just about policies about human lives.

522
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:47,060
My own elderly hot was forced to abandon her home in her community.

523
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,600
Displaced entirely by the skyrocketing light fleet, lot fees.

524
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:56,060
Today, she is trapped in a one-bedroom apartment because the corporate landlord priced her out of her own neighborhood.

525
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:05,300
Just this afternoon, inevitably resident in Rancho, Ontario, told me with tears in her eyes that if her husband passes away, she will be forced onto the street.

526
00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:12,780
Space rents have climbed past 1700 a month. Mobile home owners own their structures, but they are kept to to land beneath them.

527
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,120
They cannot pack up and run from corporate greed.

528
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,940
Tying rent hikes to 120% of the CPI with an artificial 4% floor guarantees the corporate landlords

529
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:27,580
get richer while seniors like my aunt on fits and fit in the money.

530
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,840
Skip meals and medicine to pay for dirt.

531
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,300
Is this council aware that not only will low rent space,

532
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,240
both is this council not aware that not only will the land space rent increase,

533
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920
each unit is now responsible for their water,

534
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,300
something that wasn't there in the past, especially at Ontario Rancho.

535
00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:52,260
This accord shields the city from litigation, but it actively shields corporate owners

536
00:42:52,260 --> 00:42:52,900
from accountability.

537
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,180
Before you like these poor souls into another five years of financial ruin, please look

538
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,100
into your hearts.

539
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:04,280
Think about my aunt, think about other people's, and I ask that you do your job in full item

540
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,040
13.

541
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,140
Reject this compounding multiplier and stem to people of Ontario, not the corporate landlords.

542
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:11,280
Thank you.

543
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,480
All right. Thank you. I forgot to ask. We have any emailed.

544
00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:19,040
Yes, Mr. Mayor, they have been printed and placed into the record.

545
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,920
I see them. Thank you. Yes, Miss Proud.

546
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:25,580
I'd like to talk a little bit or ask questions about number 13.

547
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,380
Do you want to pull it for separate vote as we're done?

548
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,580
No. Okay.

549
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:34,820
So I just like the city manager and the city attorney to help me with this a little bit too,

550
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:39,020
because this is an ask of us on the mobile home people.

551
00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:43,440
This is an ask. They don't have to do it. They don't have to do a darn thing.

552
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,620
So, and that's my understanding. So, I just wanted to, we are asking them,

553
00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:52,280
mobile home park people to please be decent. Don't raise in rent so much.

554
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:57,340
But they don't have to agree to it. There's mobile home parks that don't even participate in this

555
00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:02,580
agreement and they raise the rents but they raise them. So, this is us doing an ask for them to

556
00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:06,780
please try to keep that down. So, Mr. Seemann, I'm sure are safe here.

557
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:09,940
I think, I think you're not going to call the girl like you're going to come to.

558
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:11,000
Okay, there you go.

559
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:11,800
So.

560
00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,100
I just want to give a little history to this.

561
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,860
This accord actually came to his point.

562
00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:19,180
You know, Mister, I would like the city manager to ask my answer.

563
00:44:19,420 --> 00:44:20,640
My question before you.

564
00:44:20,780 --> 00:44:21,260
Yeah, well.

565
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,140
So, Mr. City manager, would you please do that?

566
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,700
Sure.

567
00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:29,500
The mobile home, the Jack Galvin mobile home accord goes back to 2007.

568
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:35,720
And as you point out, ma'am, the idea here is that is a voluntary program.

569
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:39,260
We have 19 mobile home parks in the city of Ontario.

570
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:43,460
When we started the mobile home court or when the council started the mobile home court in

571
00:44:43,460 --> 00:44:51,680
07, 10 of those mobile home parks were voluntarily complying with the accord.

572
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:57,580
But that accord does, as you point out, is limit the amount of increases that the private

573
00:44:57,580 --> 00:44:59,900
property owners who own the...

574
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,580
And under which the coaches sit, what they could do, the maximum amount of loan that are maximum amount of rent increase that they could charge.

575
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:21,320
This year, in the past, it was intended to be a unanimous vote by the mobile home, participating mobile home communities, one of them dropped out.

576
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:27,860
So now there are nine the part of the accord that is before each night as you know is that it is voluntary

577
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:33,280
It is opt-in. I guess if you were to reject this mobile home accord

578
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:39,000
It is not a red letter day for the folks that live in the nine mobile home part communities

579
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:46,040
But rather it would be quite the opposite because they would then become subject to the states ranked control laws

580
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:51,100
Which do not cover RVs and so they would be would you would be

581
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:58,400
injecting them without any type of limitation to the increases of what has increasingly become

582
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:04,120
private equity, ownership of these mobile home parks that continue to ratchet up those

583
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:11,200
rents. And so it is actually, as you point out, a limiting factor on the upward movement

584
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:18,660
of those rents, the formula, that is in the accord, is the same formula that's been in

585
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:25,160
since 2007. So it isn't as though you're doing something harmful to anybody. In fact,

586
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:32,380
you're working with the owners and managers of those nine now mobile home parks to limit the

587
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:36,900
potential future increases that they would then charge the tenants there in the property.

588
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,860
Hey, maybe only I'm a do you please acknowledge Councillor Laptor because he also wanted to make some

589
00:46:41,860 --> 00:46:47,380
comments. Yes, Mr. Water. I'd like to put a number 13 for further discussions since I wasn't

590
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:04,040
I'm sorry I missed what happened there, so did you like to have the option to discuss it?

591
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:09,780
I think I have the right to pull an item off consent calendar and request an item number 13 pull off consent calendar for several.

592
00:47:09,940 --> 00:47:17,540
You know Alan you do but I was speaking first so you needed to allow me to finish what I was doing and now it's your chat.

593
00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:21,040
Okay, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to call it our number 13 from the consent

594
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,320
calendar for separate discussion.

595
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:24,280
Okay.

596
00:47:25,740 --> 00:47:28,180
So, is that the wrong one that?

597
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,200
So we'll go ahead and what order is important, you know, that's what she's talking about.

598
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:39,360
So are we going to go ahead and we'll, Mr. Mayor, if I may, at this, at this time, what

599
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:45,020
I think I hear is a motion to approve the consent calendar except for item 13 and I believe

600
00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:48,240
You can't remember what there is asking for a separate discussion then in separate

601
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:48,680
vote after.

602
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:51,940
It sounds to me like it just let's pull item number 13 for a separate discussion.

603
00:47:52,180 --> 00:47:54,440
There's been no motion on the consent calendar that I'm aware of.

604
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:54,860
No, no.

605
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,340
I agree with you.

606
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,200
I haven't heard a motion.

607
00:47:57,460 --> 00:47:59,400
What I'm hearing is a motion developing.

608
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,260
Certainly.

609
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:02,600
All right.

610
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,260
Trying to help you out.

611
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:04,540
OK.

612
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,440
So Mr. Watner has asked for item number 13 to be pulled for separate discussion,

613
00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:11,180
which is fine.

614
00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:18,740
So I'll entertain a motion to move the consent calendar made by Ms. Pesias, second by Mr.

615
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Bowman.

616
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,840
Let's take a vote.

617
00:48:20,180 --> 00:48:21,360
With the exception of item 13.

618
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,420
With the exception of item number 13.

619
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:25,400
Okay.

620
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,940
So that passes.

621
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000
So let's discuss item number 13 individually.

622
00:48:28,860 --> 00:48:29,540
Ms. Wattner.

623
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:30,480
Thank you.

624
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,620
I'm just following state law and ordinance right here.

625
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:37,300
It says that any member can comply with item on the consent calendar.

626
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,860
It's not mere discretion.

627
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,000
It's called state law.

628
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,080
In any case, had I been given the opportunity to speak, I would explain a little bit of the history behind the accord.

629
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,120
It was actually brought to us by tenants of Mobile Home Park.

630
00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:50,900
Jack Gallman is the one that originally brought it to the city council.

631
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:57,040
And they brought it because there were mobile home owners that were increasing the rents 10, 15 percent.

632
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,260
And by coming to a negotiated agreement between the Mobile Home owners and the tenants, again brought to us by the tenants,

633
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,280
we've been able to negotiate an agreement that, you know, any percent increases to be tough,

634
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,120
at least minimize that amount of increase.

635
00:49:10,580 --> 00:49:11,120
Thank you.

636
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:23,240
So, the only thing, and what I'd say is that I think that a high-cost living is touching

637
00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:30,360
all of us, whether it's earlier we heard on the, just on the fields for kids to be playing

638
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:39,380
on, everything from milk to gas to playing fields to rent is a burden today, and I think we

639
00:49:39,380 --> 00:49:40,540
can all agree on that.

640
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:52,760
On the other hand, I think that whatever works for this consortium of owners, the properties

641
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:59,420
that have mobile homes, is something that we have to go in, as Mr. Wattner mentioned, there

642
00:49:59,420 --> 00:49:59,960
is a history.

643
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:17,410
So, when it comes to item number 13, so now what we have to do is have a motion to approve or reject item number 13 is what I understand.

644
00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:22,710
So, I'm not sure where you're going with that, Mr. Wagner. Are you approving or rejecting?

645
00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:27,390
I just wanted to make my comments on the history of the thing. I will make a motion that we approve it.

646
00:50:27,390 --> 00:50:29,410
Thank you very much, is there a second?

647
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:33,710
So a second by Ms. Macias, so we'll take a vote.

648
00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:40,690
So thank you, thank you for persisting for having a healthy

649
00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:42,830
participation in the way government works.

650
00:50:43,090 --> 00:50:43,650
Thank you very much.

651
00:50:43,850 --> 00:50:49,610
I don't think there was any intention to not allow anybody to do

652
00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:50,830
what they had the right to do.

653
00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:54,570
I think there was just an order, a method of order,

654
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:57,670
when a person's speaking nobody should interrupt and take over.

655
00:50:58,010 --> 00:50:59,430
So I wasn't here to see it.

656
00:50:59,430 --> 00:51:02,470
So I just can only believe that's what happened if I'm wrong.

657
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:07,190
Item move into public hearings now so item number 14.

658
00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:10,030
Thank you.

659
00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:14,950
This is a public hearing to introduce an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Ontario

660
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:22,430
California, amending Chapter 8A of Title VI of the Ontario Municipal Code Relating to the

661
00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:24,550
City's Water Conservation Plan.

662
00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:26,830
Notice the public hearing has been given.

663
00:51:26,830 --> 00:51:31,150
Affidavis of compliance are on file and you have one written communication.

664
00:51:32,270 --> 00:51:36,930
Okay, so at this time I'll open the public carrying a lot of the record reflect as the written communication.

665
00:51:37,170 --> 00:51:39,470
We don't have any blue cards to this tonight.

666
00:51:40,810 --> 00:51:45,950
So I'll close the public carrying an entertainment motion or discussion on the item.

667
00:51:46,310 --> 00:51:47,890
Move by Mr. Bowman.

668
00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:50,010
Have a second.

669
00:51:51,250 --> 00:51:51,730
Second.

670
00:51:51,730 --> 00:51:52,650
Second by Ms. Parada.

671
00:51:52,650 --> 00:51:53,690
Let's take a vote.

672
00:51:56,860 --> 00:51:58,040
Item passes 5-0.

673
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,500
That moves us to item number 15, Madam City Clerk.

674
00:52:05,010 --> 00:52:05,710
Yes, Mr. Mayor.

675
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:09,790
It's a public hearing to consider a resolution of proving a purchase and sale agreement

676
00:52:09,790 --> 00:52:14,410
and joint escrow instructions by in-between the City of Ontario and Archival Property

677
00:52:14,410 --> 00:52:15,270
LLC.

678
00:52:15,830 --> 00:52:19,950
Notice the public hearing has been given affidavits of compliance are on file and there are

679
00:52:19,950 --> 00:52:21,150
two written communications.

680
00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:25,830
There are two written communications.

681
00:52:25,930 --> 00:52:26,170
Okay.

682
00:52:26,310 --> 00:52:27,030
Thank you.

683
00:52:27,330 --> 00:52:28,350
I was going to ask you about that.

684
00:52:28,350 --> 00:52:36,610
Okay, so we do have blue slips, you'll be given two minutes to speak to the item, my first

685
00:52:36,610 --> 00:52:37,570
speaker is Chris Robles.

686
00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:49,830
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, my name is Chris Robles, and I am speaking on item 15.

687
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:56,550
I have concerns about this sale, the agreement says that the city is using economic opportunity

688
00:52:57,090 --> 00:52:59,770
statutes and not the surplus land act.

689
00:52:59,770 --> 00:53:07,570
But the California Department of Housing and Community Development, also known as HCD, has already challenged that argument.

690
00:53:08,310 --> 00:53:17,430
And last year, HCD issued Ontario a surplus land act notice of violation involving another land deal where the city relied on these same statutes.

691
00:53:18,010 --> 00:53:19,690
So why are we doing this again?

692
00:53:20,330 --> 00:53:22,930
Tonight, item four follows a surplus land act.

693
00:53:22,930 --> 00:53:30,260
item 15 sells public land directly to a private developer and we have too much of that going on.

694
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:36,930
Where is the exemption and has HCD reviewed this disposition?

695
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:44,510
Section 8.2 is also troubling because it anticipates a legal challenge and protects the buyer

696
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:46,810
if the city's legal position fails.

697
00:53:47,310 --> 00:53:53,290
So I'm asking you to please continue item 15 until HDD confirms this sale complies with

698
00:53:53,290 --> 00:53:56,170
the surplus land act, and I will be giving them a call tomorrow.

699
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:57,630
Thank you.

700
00:53:57,730 --> 00:53:59,370
All right, Brad Newman.

701
00:54:03,770 --> 00:54:07,010
So the question that I have for you guys is when did you actually acquire this property

702
00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:07,850
and for how much?

703
00:54:07,870 --> 00:54:11,950
How many years did you have it in your possession, and we're actually as the appraisal?

704
00:54:12,310 --> 00:54:15,790
There's a difference between the appraisal value of the property and the actual market value.

705
00:54:15,790 --> 00:54:31,450
You just passed item number 13 which says you expect at least a 4% increase in the property value year over year over year, regardless of inflation and when inflation is higher you give 120% of the inflation rate.

706
00:54:32,190 --> 00:54:37,330
So how long did we have this property and why are we selling it at a rate that doesn't keep up with inflation?

707
00:54:37,330 --> 00:54:46,390
The other thing is that we have $220,000 of expenses related to this for the environmental review, the staff costs all that.

708
00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:57,470
If this group is able to purchase this for $50,000, that's not refundable, it seems like they should actually have a purchase price for the actual entirety of the cost.

709
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:59,990
Instead of having a 50,000 dollars, it's not for fun to bull.

710
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,700
It should be the entirety of what it costs for us to put into this to get it to the sale price.

711
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:12,280
I just question how do you justify selling this property at this price?

712
00:55:12,780 --> 00:55:17,080
And to me, I think it's because we have what appears to be a fully mature corrupt administration.

713
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:26,140
You guys are acting like a mob saying, hey, everybody, let's coordinate and increase our rent by 120% the price of inflation.

714
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:28,840
Mayor, what would happen if state of brother's bonds,

715
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,280
rals, all the brochures said, you know what?

716
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:34,680
Tomorrow, let's put up that price of bread by a dollar.

717
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:37,700
And tomorrow, we'll put up the price of eggs by a dollar.

718
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,000
If we all collude and coordinate together,

719
00:55:40,020 --> 00:55:42,360
we can extort some extra money from the public.

720
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,440
The thing is, is that with this property,

721
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,160
you have the city charging additional money

722
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,440
to the renters, and then here, when you have property,

723
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,880
that's for sale, you're not increasing its value at all.

724
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,360
You're just saying, this is what it appraised at.

725
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,920
How many years ago was out of prasal?

726
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,480
Was there any growth in it?

727
00:55:57,540 --> 00:55:59,720
Did you see any competitive bid for this?

728
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,920
Could we get some explanation on the competitive process?

729
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,080
Thank you.

730
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:04,880
All right, Mr. Kizzi.

731
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,100
Good evening, Your Honor.

732
00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:12,180
Thank you.

733
00:56:12,540 --> 00:56:14,040
As we all know, I'm a resident of Ontario

734
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,620
and I'm standing before you tonight

735
00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:18,680
to express my enthusiastic support

736
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,640
for the purchase and sale of the agreement and item number 15.

737
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,740
I want to thank the city leadership and staff

738
00:56:24,740 --> 00:56:26,900
for having the backbone and protect our communities vision

739
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:28,220
over additional warehousing.

740
00:56:28,220 --> 00:56:32,740
We all understand that property must be sold at some times, and while we may not agree,

741
00:56:33,420 --> 00:56:39,600
I much rather see this do something for the people, the residential and commercial use other than warehousing.

742
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:43,360
Look around us, our city has more than enough logistics centers.

743
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,280
With our families actually need our spaces where we can live, connect, enjoy community.

744
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,480
This proposed 50,000 square foot pedestrian plaza with its high and dining walkable walkways

745
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,760
is exactly the kind of vibrant destination Ontario deserves.

746
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:03,640
It creates jobs, generates tax revenue without using taxpayer subsidies, and beautifully complements the growth near the Toyota Arena.

747
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,780
However, because this project will be such a massive success in Draw Heavy crowds,

748
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:12,340
we must aggressively protect our surrounding neighborhood from the literal fallout of that success.

749
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:19,400
As you vote to approve this agreement tonight, I urge this council to hold the developers district enforceable standards.

750
00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:22,960
Specifically, we must address the infrastructure and traffic.

751
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,140
Archibald Avenue and inland in part Boulevard are already under heavy strain.

752
00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:32,200
We need the developer to implement comprehensive traffic calming measures and smart signal

753
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:37,260
synchronization so our local roads do not gridlock furthermore we must address light pollution.

754
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,480
The proposed digital bill board near the freeway cannot become a blinding in the sense

755
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,420
for nearby residents.

756
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,180
We need iron, clad, agreements on strict nighttime gaming requirements and limits on flashing

757
00:57:47,180 --> 00:57:47,860
animations.

758
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:52,080
Finally I ask that you secure commitments for robust on-site private security.

759
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,000
We have nothing without security.

760
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:57,820
We need to keep those outdoor plazas safe for families at all hours.

761
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:00,220
Thank you for refusing to settle for another warehouse.

762
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,960
Let's pass this resolution, build this destination,

763
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:06,500
and ensure the developer treats our neighborhood with this respect to deserves.

764
00:58:06,740 --> 00:58:07,220
Thank you.

765
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:08,060
All right.

766
00:58:08,180 --> 00:58:08,880
Thank you.

767
00:58:09,380 --> 00:58:11,000
I'll ask Speaker Jesse Fonseca.

768
00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:16,970
Is he out now?

769
00:58:17,170 --> 00:58:17,630
Is he outside?

770
00:58:17,950 --> 00:58:20,310
Somebody see if Jesse Fonseca is out there?

771
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Looks like he's not.

772
00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:41,440
So before we move on, Mr. City Manager, we'll close the public hearing.

773
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,860
did you have something to answer about these?

774
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:45,460
Sure.

775
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:46,480
I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor.

776
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,420
Could I put the mail up on you to keep the public hearing open so that Mr.

777
00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:52,920
Ochoa's answer gets into the record and if there are any other questions from any

778
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,360
of the council members, we have that as well.

779
00:58:54,580 --> 00:58:55,080
Thank you.

780
00:58:55,460 --> 00:58:57,120
We'll keep the public hearing open.

781
00:58:57,700 --> 00:58:58,280
Thank you.

782
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,900
Thank you, sir.

783
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,940
And I'll turn it over to our economic development director, Jennifer Hiramoto, and a second.

784
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,100
But the council will recall and I appreciate Mr. Kizzi's comments.

785
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:10,640
This was originally going to be an Ikea.

786
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:18,180
And during the pandemic or just before the pandemic as I recollect, they decided that this

787
00:59:18,180 --> 00:59:23,980
was too close to their store in Kobina, and that they were going to pick up and move

788
00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:24,980
for their east.

789
00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:31,540
And wouldn't it be okay with the city council if you allowed them to do a distribution warehouse

790
00:59:31,540 --> 00:59:38,100
with a small showroom that they could do all of their mail order online types of sales.

791
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:44,700
And we said, no, that really wasn't in the vision for this part of the city right along

792
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:51,920
the 10th freeway at Archibald, and we undertook the opportunity to bring in a mixed use

793
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:58,360
developer that would ultimately take down much or nearly all of the site.

794
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:24,700
Honour, aye, Kia, they had played along for a while. They were willing to wait while we secured a potential buyer for the property, because, as actually Mr. Robles points out, the surplus ant landsack makes for a cumbersome process to get over for cities who are looking not so much to do affordable housing in a given location, but to actually do economic development.

795
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:38,920
Fortunately for the city, there are the economic development statutes that are on the books that predate the SLA and we have to make certain findings and employ those findings for a project such as this.

796
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:47,960
And so the idea became that if we were going to keep the current property owner from doing what they chose to do with it,

797
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:53,380
because they owned it outright, they had owned that property even to go back, I think, to 2016,

798
01:00:55,260 --> 01:01:01,640
that we were going to have to either bring the buyers to bear or the city was going to have to acquire the property,

799
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,720
which we did earlier this year in the spring.

800
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:27,600
So, we bought it in the spring, I believe, in March, we are turning around and selling this piece of it to portals for their bakery at this location, probably the larger bakery in their chain, serving the inland empire, the greater inland empire and taking pressure off the next closest bakery.

801
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:34,640
And so, as the Council has knows, this has been a passion project for all of you.

802
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:42,100
I don't know anybody that doesn't love potato balls, that doesn't love the coffee and the cakes and the pastries and everything else.

803
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:51,760
And through the hard work of our staff, we're able to work very closely with them to acquire this property from us.

804
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,000
And, you know, as you can imagine, they are a very sought after brand.

805
01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:58,740
And so they are very jealous of that brand,

806
01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:05,580
protective of that brand and not wanting to engage in any headaches or heartaches

807
01:02:05,580 --> 01:02:07,500
with respect to the disposition of the property,

808
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,140
which is why you see the languages of the language and the purchase and sale agreement

809
01:02:12,780 --> 01:02:14,640
that is there for their protection.

810
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:20,160
But I hate to think that somebody anybody would think that doing

811
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:26,400
a warehouse at this location as opposed to a large bakery and kind of a food

812
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:34,000
village, if you will, the other curated restaurants is somehow a lesser

813
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,380
project than that distribution warehouse. It's something that the

814
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,480
Council has identified, it's something that we hear from our residents and

815
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:50,140
customers on a regular ongoing basis of what they want to see more of in

816
01:02:50,140 --> 01:03:00,580
the wherewithal, waiting through the success of economic cycles, and braving the difficulties

817
01:03:00,580 --> 01:03:04,900
that are placed in front of us from time to time by partners at the state.

818
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,380
With that, I'll ask Jen to talk a little bit about the particulars on the project.

819
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,360
Yes, thank you, Mr. City Manager. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of Council.

820
01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:18,800
The item before you tonight is the purchase and sale agreement with Archival Property LLC for

821
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,480
the eight point six four acres.

822
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,860
It's her microphone, ma.

823
01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:23,720
Okay, notice.

824
01:03:23,900 --> 01:03:24,780
Thank you.

825
01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:26,820
Located off of inland empire, Boulevard,

826
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,420
and Archibald Avenue.

827
01:03:29,340 --> 01:03:31,740
As a city manager, just shared with you back in 2018,

828
01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:33,960
Ikea did buy this property with the intention

829
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,880
of developing it into a retail store,

830
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,560
but they pivoted during COVID

831
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,300
and they requested to develop it into that distribution center

832
01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:44,800
and we said, no way, that is an incompatible use,

833
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,100
that certainly did not reflect the city's vision

834
01:03:47,100 --> 01:04:04,340
for that entire 25 acres fast forward as the city manager mentioned the city acquired the property back in March as a way to ensure a high quality development at this prominent location as well as continue to leverage the public and private investment north of the 10 freeway.

835
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:11,160
You can see the image here, it's a site plan, the proposed project delivers on that vision,

836
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,120
brought forward by Archival Property LLC.

837
01:04:14,620 --> 01:04:19,820
This is now fully entitled and includes approximately 50,000 square feet of premier dining

838
01:04:19,820 --> 01:04:23,720
and commercial space within the three two-story buildings.

839
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,760
As you can see, the development is organized in such a way around a central plaza without

840
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,900
door dining, landscape walkways and pedestrian gathering spaces.

841
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:40,820
Parking is primarily adjacent to the 10 freeway, allowing the buildings and landscaping to define the inland empire

842
01:04:40,820 --> 01:04:51,700
frontage. The city is selling this property under the Economic Opportunity Statute, which is allowed under government code section 522201 and

843
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:59,560
that authorizes a separate disposition path and enables a city to sell or lease property to create economic opportunity.

844
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:08,380
And qualifying economic opportunities can include job creation or retention, or 15% increase in property tax revenue.

845
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:20,500
As you can see, some of the economic benefits here from the project include the development of almost 725 temporary and permanent jobs,

846
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:31,460
And it will also increase property tax revenue, well above that 15% baseline in increase in property tax revenue of 450%.

847
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:39,000
Other transactions of this type of bakery and retail site include 1.8 million transactions a year.

848
01:05:39,220 --> 01:05:43,840
That is almost 5,000 customers a day at this retail site.

849
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:51,060
In addition to the other ancillary retail which will be expected to generate about 500 to 1000 customers a day.

850
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,040
The total private investment in this is estimated at 53.5 million.

851
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,020
The land I rounded up here at 15.97 million.

852
01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:06,840
The developer will take on the parking improvements at 4 million billboard signage at 1.5 million.

853
01:06:07,420 --> 01:06:10,240
The primary retail building will be 24 million.

854
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:16,580
additional retail buildings will be $7 million and of course the landscaping for a million dollars.

855
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:22,540
In summary, this project advances the Meredith International Specific Plan and builds upon

856
01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:27,880
this significant investment occurring in the area including the New High at House and High

857
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,640
at Place Hotel just to the east of this. Some of our new auto dealers including the Genesis

858
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,540
of Ontario just to the west of this and the planned capital city entertainment district at

859
01:06:37,540 --> 01:06:42,940
Toyota Arena. Staff recommends approval of the purchase and sale agreement and the associated

860
01:06:42,940 --> 01:06:47,800
economic opportunity findings. I'm available to any, to answer any questions you may have,

861
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:52,960
as well as the city attorney Rubin Duran and we also have other council with VBK. Thank you.

862
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,320
All right. Thank you. So we'll close the public hearing and I'll entertain a motion or

863
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,180
conversation and discussion from council. I'll make a motion that we approve.

864
01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:07,680
And I know that this has been something that all of us have been wanting for a long time. I mean,

865
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,440
at least for the 17 years that I've been on this council.

866
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,540
I used to work at LACUC Medical Center

867
01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:16,500
and we used to go to Porto's in Glendale.

868
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,520
Somebody would make the run, you know,

869
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,780
come back with everything.

870
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:23,000
And so it's just been something that I mean,

871
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,760
I go to the Glendale Star.

872
01:07:24,980 --> 01:07:27,900
It's that they're in wait for the matriarch to pass me.

873
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,440
Buying, you know, hi, I'm Debbie,

874
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,140
and we really would like you in Ontario.

875
01:07:32,060 --> 01:07:34,820
So it's just something that it's just going to be so exciting

876
01:07:34,820 --> 01:07:35,800
to have them here.

877
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,300
So I'm just really, really thrilled, so.

878
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:39,460
Mr. Bowman?

879
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,180
OK, so there's been a motion in a second.

880
01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:43,900
Any other discussion?

881
01:07:49,090 --> 01:07:50,830
So we'll take the vote.

882
01:07:53,290 --> 01:07:53,670
All right.

883
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:58,230
I don't pass this 504 for the,

884
01:07:58,230 --> 01:08:00,290
what do you call them?

885
01:08:00,290 --> 01:08:01,710
Math potato balls are.

886
01:08:02,410 --> 01:08:03,350
So good.

887
01:08:03,630 --> 01:08:04,850
I think we're all happy with that.

888
01:08:05,610 --> 01:08:08,610
So then, this takes us to the staff matters.

889
01:08:08,910 --> 01:08:09,390
Mr. City Manager?

890
01:08:09,390 --> 01:08:16,230
All right, and now it takes us to council matters, and I do have some issues that I want to speak about.

891
01:08:17,670 --> 01:08:22,570
I would like to bring forward to the council in a future meeting sooner than later.

892
01:08:23,690 --> 01:08:28,770
Certainly, at the end of this month is great, or in the first week of October, we're meeting a cop,

893
01:08:29,290 --> 01:08:34,910
October that, we need to really look at some reforms here in the city, especially when it comes to campaigning.

894
01:08:36,850 --> 01:08:44,750
We also need to have an ethics committee so that we can have some ethics here in the city that are followed by all of us.

895
01:08:45,090 --> 01:08:47,970
Not just some of us.

896
01:08:48,330 --> 01:08:52,050
Some of the bullying that I've been hearing about in this campaign is just despicable.

897
01:08:54,270 --> 01:09:00,550
And it can't be just put up with forever when we need some turn limits on our council.

898
01:09:00,550 --> 01:09:06,750
And some people would say, well, you've been here a long time, yeah, I have, but it's about time.

899
01:09:06,930 --> 01:09:08,770
It's time now to start looking at that.

900
01:09:08,790 --> 01:09:15,730
And the past I thought it was a significant for us to have consistency, stability and reliability

901
01:09:16,270 --> 01:09:21,930
and the development of the city, but it leads to some things that I think are troublesome,

902
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:34,410
So we need to look at some term limits, campaign finance reform, Mr. Robles is mentioning some

903
01:09:34,410 --> 01:09:40,150
of the things that are really, again, questionable about how this all goes down.

904
01:09:41,350 --> 01:09:47,810
We need to look at some of the things that are happening, we've been mentioning the cost

905
01:09:47,810 --> 01:09:54,510
living. Approximately 187,200,000 people living in the city, or median household income

906
01:09:54,510 --> 01:09:59,970
is $89,000, rent is more than $2,000 a month for a norm.

907
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:30,280
About 12 percent of our residents live below the poverty level. So, when our residents tell us that affordability is an issue, we need to listen. There are things that we can do a little bit that are reasonable, I think, to make Ontario a little bit more affordable. We cannot control the price of guilt, the price of gas, the price of real estate, that is not within the cities of the city.

908
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:36,840
ability to control, but we can control a few little things that can make life a little bit easier.

909
01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:38,720
Right now, for instance,

910
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:47,020
we have, we provide qualifying low-income seniors and residents with

911
01:10:47,020 --> 01:10:51,620
the disabilities discount of up to $15 a month on their combined water suit and refuse bill.

912
01:10:52,220 --> 01:10:56,740
I think we can extend that to everybody who lives below a certain income level.

913
01:10:56,740 --> 01:11:01,240
I don't think it just needs to be seniors and people with disabilities but that's up to the

914
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,660
council to decide based upon reports that we get from the city.

915
01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:07,780
We also have our Empowerment Scholarship Program,

916
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:13,460
helps lower income onto your residence participate in recreation programs, as was mentioned

917
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:18,220
earlier, and has helped more than 1,000 residents since 2014.

918
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:24,360
I don't think that any kit should be held back from participating in the sports programs

919
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,880
that we have in the city no matter who's running on because they can't afford it.

920
01:11:28,220 --> 01:11:35,120
I know that I ran into that when I was a kid, it was $7 to play baseball, $7 in my family

921
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,500
couldn't afford to let me play.

922
01:11:37,180 --> 01:11:43,200
So I watched from the sidelines and I could only play pickup ball in the community.

923
01:11:44,180 --> 01:11:45,380
And I don't think that's right.

924
01:11:45,460 --> 01:11:49,280
I think we need to be able to help kids get that experience.

925
01:11:50,620 --> 01:11:56,380
Our utility rate, hearing last year, approximately 230 households were enrolled in the utility

926
01:11:56,380 --> 01:11:57,440
assistance programs.

927
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,320
That's 230 households.

928
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,020
We have more than 53,000 households in the city.

929
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:11,420
And I don't know whether the number is low because of the need of small, but I think

930
01:12:11,420 --> 01:12:13,300
that the program exists to help people.

931
01:12:13,460 --> 01:12:15,000
I want to make sure that we're helping everybody.

932
01:12:15,820 --> 01:12:21,460
I think we should find out if there are people out there that need the assistance, so I'm asking

933
01:12:21,460 --> 01:12:27,320
our city manager and staff to come back within 60 days to give us an idea on how our programs

934
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:33,180
that are meant to help people actually doing something. So first our utility program, all

935
01:12:33,180 --> 01:12:37,080
low-income Ontario households regardless of age or disability status, I'd like to see that

936
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:43,240
as being a part of it. We have a very good first time via program. I know people who have tried

937
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:52,600
to access it. And they say that it's so difficult, they can't qualify. I'd love to

938
01:12:52,600 --> 01:13:00,560
see it may either simplify or make more clear as to what is necessary to get involved

939
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:13,160
with that program. And so, and find out what they know, I think we have a million and a

940
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,780
$30,000 fixed up program.

941
01:13:16,780 --> 01:13:20,140
I was talking to somebody who was told me,

942
01:13:20,140 --> 01:13:22,680
now, I don't know for sure, because I wasn't there,

943
01:13:23,540 --> 01:13:29,020
that they were directed to a specific real estate agency

944
01:13:29,020 --> 01:13:33,020
in town to get the $100,000 in the $30,000,

945
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,180
but they were informed that they owed that no matter what,

946
01:13:36,220 --> 01:13:38,220
but it's my understanding that's supposed to be forgiven

947
01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:40,320
in 10-year increments, right?

948
01:13:40,660 --> 01:13:41,360
Mr. City Manager?

949
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:52,240
Yeah, it goes away, so somehow people are getting misinformed, I don't know how many people have access to that.

950
01:13:52,880 --> 01:14:04,920
This is in the city manager, but it would be informational to find out how many people have been able to take part of that and participate in the program and the difficulty of applying.

951
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:13,920
I don't want us to look at the $15 a month benefit itself, and let us know for sure if

952
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:22,820
we needed to provide exactly the same level of assistance when that $15 was established

953
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,580
is that still sufficient for today?

954
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,620
It doesn't sound like it to me, but it's $15 and $15.

955
01:14:32,620 --> 01:14:37,620
dollars. Our empowerment scholarship program, one out of every four

956
01:14:37,620 --> 01:14:41,760
Ontario residents is under the age of 18. I did a study on that. Isn't that amazing?

957
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:49,520
We do a lot to get our kids educated and sense of school. So I don't want financial hardship

958
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:55,500
to be the reason of child and the city can't participate in things. So try not to repeat

959
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:56,480
myself here.

960
01:15:00,690 --> 01:15:12,990
I'm not actually asking this council tonight to approve a single dollar of new spending, but I think that we should look at whether we should expand these programs or not, and I don't think that's a bad thing.

961
01:15:14,110 --> 01:15:19,370
We need to reach the people who need the programs and provide meaningful assistance.

962
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:30,670
So with all of that being said, I hope staff took note, because I want to address these sooner than later, because I think we need to really look at all of these issues.

963
01:15:30,670 --> 01:15:36,670
issues. From the first ones I mentioned to the last ones that I mentioned and take charge of it

964
01:15:36,670 --> 01:15:42,550
and get something done as quickly as possible. People need to help. $15 may not sound like

965
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:49,580
a lot, but if you don't have it, it's a lot. So thank you for hearing me out. I didn't read

966
01:15:49,580 --> 01:15:55,420
everything I had. We'd be here for another hour. So I'll move over to my right, Ms. Macias.

967
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:01,900
I just want to wish everyone a happy and safe everyday weekend. I know that that's coming up.

968
01:16:01,900 --> 01:16:05,660
We typically, we, you know, the people that were

969
01:16:05,660 --> 01:16:08,320
considered just a day off, but I would hope Mr. Mayor,

970
01:16:08,580 --> 01:16:10,480
we can enjoy the council meeting on behalf

971
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,060
of our local labor union, I'd be great.

972
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:17,600
Mr. Bohn.

973
01:16:18,980 --> 01:16:19,200
Yes?

974
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,180
Yes.

975
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,080
Thank you, Mr. Mer.

976
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,020
You don't from time to time.

977
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,600
You know, we've, we deal with some

978
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:31,860
arduous, severe challenging issues and a lot of mixed

979
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:38,240
feelings a lot of true feelings, heartfelt feelings about what we're doing the city, how

980
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,780
we do it and balance and density and those types of things mean a lot.

981
01:16:43,620 --> 01:16:51,900
And I'm just thinking that from time to time we agree that one of us has an idea perhaps

982
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:57,880
that we can come together at another meeting and talk about that very idea and what I'd like

983
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:06,400
to do is take a look at this time and in a form of a resolution to put together a resolution,

984
01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:12,480
a timely resolution, I think, and the overall balance of the city to really take a hard

985
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:22,280
look at warehousing development and how that particular component of the city is really

986
01:17:23,340 --> 01:17:30,700
sprung up. And we really think it's time just to consider the overall current balance

987
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:41,680
and the necessity to perhaps modify our course. And I think it's worthy of an opportunity

988
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:49,140
to stop the forward motion and think about what we're doing for a while and contemplate

989
01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:54,980
of the future really looks like or should look like and we really want to be part of that

990
01:17:54,980 --> 01:18:01,420
with our name on it. So my recommendation, I'd like to take a vote to see if I have the support,

991
01:18:02,340 --> 01:18:09,340
but if I do have a council concurrence to have the city manager staff bring forward the next agenda

992
01:18:10,780 --> 01:18:18,400
proposed resolution that would do everything would be to put a hold on a construction of

993
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,960
or housing in the city of Ontario?

994
01:18:27,050 --> 01:18:27,050
Well,

995
01:18:30,510 --> 01:18:31,930
when I'm here and you say Mr. Bowman,

996
01:18:32,130 --> 01:18:35,150
is that you'd like to present a possible,

997
01:18:35,150 --> 01:18:39,010
a possible moratorium on warehousing.

998
01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:43,530
What I like to ask if I might, if you might adjust to,

999
01:18:43,650 --> 01:18:46,590
if we can first do a study on what we're looking at.

1000
01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:48,990
A lot of times when it comes to warehouses,

1001
01:18:49,630 --> 01:18:53,570
I know that the media plays into that whole idea

1002
01:18:55,770 --> 01:19:01,370
And the, the, the den of social media saying there's too many, there's too many.

1003
01:19:02,050 --> 01:19:07,930
I think that what we're doing right now in the city of Ontario is we have warehouses where they belong.

1004
01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:18,870
And, and I, but I do think that we need to look at where is that happening and are we staying true to our first initiative of being like that.

1005
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:28,730
And I think that comes with the report before an official motion and more atonium.

1006
01:19:29,050 --> 01:19:34,990
I'd love to see the report on what we're doing and how briefing here in front of all of us.

1007
01:19:35,370 --> 01:19:36,410
And then go from there.

1008
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:37,430
That was actually

1009
01:19:40,180 --> 01:19:45,100
my progress until we have an opportunity to do everything.

1010
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,380
And I'm going to step in here, Mr. Mayor, if you don't mind. I apologize for interrupting.

1011
01:19:49,380 --> 01:19:55,660
Council Member Bowman. As I think you all know, the Brown Act does allow brief discussion

1012
01:19:55,660 --> 01:19:59,080
to figure out whether to agenda as if you should write in which I understand Council Member

1013
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,480
Bowman.

1014
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:24,500
Attempting to do. Two of you have already spoken to the issue in some detail and so I'm going to respectfully advise you to be very cautious about another one of the five of you having a discussion on this. I think the question before the body now is, are there three of you who want to direct the city manager and his staff to further investigate the item as requested by Council Member Bowman and perhaps draft up an ordinance.

1015
01:20:24,500 --> 01:20:29,900
Beyond that, I respectfully ask you not to engage in any serious debate here.

1016
01:20:29,900 --> 01:20:34,940
The public hasn't had an opportunity and advanced notice to know that you would be discussing this issue.

1017
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,160
So am I, am I clearing off, I hope?

1018
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:53,000
I understand I was speaking more in the area of a resolution, which is an opportunity to evaluate where we're at in the process of moving forward from this point.

1019
01:20:54,540 --> 01:21:05,020
And then my adjustment to that suggestion was, we need to know where we're going before we say we want to go there or we don't.

1020
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,060
And so we need a briefing on what we're looking at first.

1021
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:10,340
Is that acceptable?

1022
01:21:10,940 --> 01:21:11,580
Yes, sure.

1023
01:21:12,180 --> 01:21:20,480
Okay, so then the consensus would be that we have a briefing on what we're doing for the future of warehouse again in the city of Ontario.

1024
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:35,420
So, again, I see two council members, which is not quite a consensus, I have a feeling that the city manager has a good sense of where this could go.

1025
01:21:36,540 --> 01:21:48,200
I don't get the sense that he's been directed to bring an item before you resolution or otherwise without another one of your membership agreeing to direct him to do so.

1026
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,900
We're in a little bit of a quandary, and I all do respect to each of you.

1027
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:57,180
I understand this is an important issue, but I'm not sure, and I'll let the City

1028
01:21:57,180 --> 01:22:02,100
Manager speak for himself as to whether he has clear direction on what the next appropriate

1029
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:03,520
move here is.

1030
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:07,520
Sir, please.

1031
01:22:07,980 --> 01:22:08,000
Sir, please.

1032
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:08,580
Are there thoughts?

1033
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:09,820
So he's saying we can.

1034
01:22:13,020 --> 01:22:13,300
Yeah.

1035
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:16,270
I'm not sure.

1036
01:22:16,850 --> 01:22:17,330
I'm not sure.

1037
01:22:17,550 --> 01:22:17,770
I'm not sure.

1038
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:21,430
I'm not sure.

1039
01:22:22,010 --> 01:22:22,370
I'm not sure.

1040
01:22:22,390 --> 01:22:23,190
I'm not sure.

1041
01:22:23,890 --> 01:22:27,150
Is that what you're saying what's that?

1042
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:33,830
I'm going to look to the city manager because truly he's the one who will direct his

1043
01:22:33,830 --> 01:22:34,030
staff.

1044
01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:36,670
I will support him and all of you of course.

1045
01:22:37,670 --> 01:22:40,850
It is not clear to me as I sit here that that's what's been asked for.

1046
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:43,490
I'm hearing a study, I'm hearing a resolution.

1047
01:22:44,150 --> 01:22:47,370
I think that this could be the beginning of an important conversation.

1048
01:22:47,930 --> 01:22:52,810
I just don't know that we have enough to know what to bring to you to continue that conversation.

1049
01:22:53,710 --> 01:22:55,310
Perhaps the manager could use it.

1050
01:22:55,310 --> 01:23:01,390
a little bit more time to formulate something and put it in front of you and do course.

1051
01:23:01,810 --> 01:23:07,110
As a means of level setting for the council perhaps what we can do as we recall we recently

1052
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:15,430
adopted the general plan update and to revisit that and understand all the study because

1053
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:20,750
it was quite a bit of environmental review that went into that and quite a bit of community outreach

1054
01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:29,630
If we bring that back to the council, walk through that item again, and then from there, have the council in a public meeting that has been noticed,

1055
01:23:30,090 --> 01:23:45,830
be able to articulate if you would like to change the general plan in some way, or adjust the timing such as Mr. Bowman is expressing that that might be the best most direct way to do that,

1056
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:51,530
particularly because we just recently did it, so it's still very fresh, and we can go and express all that to the council.

1057
01:23:53,390 --> 01:24:09,030
And I will just add on that note that the general plan and the action that you took on that affects individuals and companies property rights, and so there is a whole attendant due process.

1058
01:24:09,030 --> 01:24:20,230
That must occur, there is, you have a planning commission that, and a planning staff that does a fine job of analyzing very complicated and important issues like this.

1059
01:24:20,350 --> 01:24:37,930
And so Mr. Bowman, Mr. Mayor, I hope that you would understand that we would bring to bear those resources for you in compliance with a law to protect those property owners due process rights and to protect your communities interests and having the opportunity to participate in those discussions in the proper format.

1060
01:24:42,610 --> 01:24:54,870
Irrespective of what it took to get here, that does not mean at some point in time, we may have an opportunity if we were so desire to change direction.

1061
01:24:56,110 --> 01:24:56,750
Absolutely.

1062
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:59,970
And the policy makers, that is the book.

1063
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:06,520
The voters elect you to do that, and it's our job to help it happen in a legal, defensible way.

1064
01:25:09,770 --> 01:25:12,270
Okay. So, are you understand what we want?

1065
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:21,000
My recommendation to you is to bring back the general plan and review it with you in this session,

1066
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:26,580
in this chambers, to further flush out how all five of you feel about it.

1067
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,360
Listen to the community again, and whatever direction you give, because it's a duly,

1068
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,340
notice meeting, we would act on it, forthwith.

1069
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,980
Are you okay with that, Jim?

1070
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:39,900
I think that's a good beginning.

1071
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,860
Yeah, I really think that we kind of need to be educated on it.

1072
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,580
It's easy to just say, no more of this.

1073
01:25:48,180 --> 01:25:54,180
More of that, what have you, but you really have to have an intellectual understanding of what's going on.

1074
01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:56,100
So I would appreciate that.

1075
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,600
Thank you.

1076
01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:58,540
Miss Prada.

1077
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:13,580
Thank you very much for indulging me with the largest amount of speaking time, and so we thank you for participating, and we'll see you September 15th, this meeting is now adjourned.